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It is paired with the qualifier "qatan" (if memory serves) which means small or little, so it literally translates to little boys. It is also not threatening to stand away from someone and tell them to go away from you.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 02:02 PM
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But it isn't though. It's presumably pointing out a correlation between feminism and ugliness; not just saying "Haha, she's ugly!".
/r/MensRights08/05/22 08:20 PM
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the missing heritability problem This is because GWAS only finds additive effects, and we are using a limited number of genes. Height also used to have a very low heritability figure using such studies, but everybody knows that it's actually highly heritable. Indeed, heritability, which reveals nothing about genetic influence, is actually a red herring in discussions about nature versus nurture. Nothing you said there demonstrates that... You just say that it's not technically a measure of causa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:53 PM
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No. Just some sources I've seen before and decided to share.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 02:20 AM
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Here's some support for your claim: Playful boys were increasingly negatively regarded as rebellious and intrusive and were labeled as the “class clown” by their teachers. These findings were in direct contrast with children's self-perceptions and those of their peers, who initially regarded more playful boys as appealing and engaging playmates. The data further revealed that the playful boys were stigmatized by their teachers, and this was communicated through verbal and non-verbal reprimands, …
/r/MensRights07/04/22 01:51 AM
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Papers are far more likely to get through peer review if the person reviewing agrees with the result. You shouldn't think scientists are even close to immune to this.
/r/MensRights08/03/22 10:39 PM
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Please don't equivocate these. Abortion isn't just about women's bodies, but the baby as well, and you have to think about taxes and who is paying them for both topics.
/r/MensRights26/02/22 11:48 PM
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It's an analysis; not an opinion piece. The fact that nonsense papers have gotten through peer review shows that no, peer review doesn't mean that the methodology is sound or the findings replicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:37 AM
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But how much better? The point is that the data speaks for itself, so "it wasn't peer-reviewed" is not a valid response. Also, the "opinion piece" is a collection and analysis of data. It isn't just somebody giving their opinion, as much as you calling it an opinion piece is trying to smear it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:27 AM
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Peer review is awful anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:16 PM
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Why eat junk food instead of cooking a high quality meal for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:13 PM
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Also in Denmark.
/r/MensRights16/02/22 04:45 AM
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The good traits of femininity; empathy, patience, sensuality, thoughtfulness Since when were women the philosophical type? Since when were women more patient? Also, "Sensuality - The enjoyment, expression, or pursuit of physical, especially sexual, pleasure". How does this not describe men more? Sensual is just the nicer way of putting it that we apply to women more, because of a bias against male sexuality. Even empathy I'd question. If you want to see what masculinity and femininity are, you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:25 PM
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It's not "viewing women as a right" to say that women's standards are unrealistically high. Can we be done with this talking point already?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:01 AM
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To be precise, I've only ever seen this actually demonstrated when it comes to women.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/01/22 12:00 PM
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Why do people keep saying this? You can't just define feminism as equality when the usage of the word is what it means, and feminists actively oppose equality.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/01/22 11:57 AM
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The sex-positive and sex-negative ideas were always lies. It's been slut-positive and slut-negative from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:15 PM
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So what do you suggest about all the people who identify as feminists, but actively advocate against equality, obviously while saying that they are advocating for equality? And all the people who do advocate for equality, but identify as non-feminists or even anti-feminists? Could it be perhaps that the word doesn't actually mean that, but just saying it does is a convenient excuse? A word only means what it is used to mean, after all.
/r/MensRights07/01/22 02:23 AM
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I don't know if I can dumb it down anymore... The point is that height makes a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:29 PM
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Table 5.5 shows the trade-offs between height and income. A man who is 5 feet 6 inches tall, for example, needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6 feet tall (the median height in our sample) and who makes $62,500 per year. From here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:01 PM
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Table 5.5 shows the trade-offs between height and income. A man who is 5 feet 6 inches tall, for example, needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6 feet tall (the median height in our sample) and who makes $62,500 per year. From here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:57 PM
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Right... Women don't care at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:56 PM
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Maybe the most striking numbers are with regard to income-ethnicity trade-offs, as shown in Table 5.6. For equal success with a white woman, an African-American man needs to earn $154,000 more than a white man. Hispanic men need an additional $77,000, and Asian men need an additional $247,000 in annual income. In contrast to men, women mostly cannot compensate for their ethnicity with a higher income. From here. Also this from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:54 PM
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So now men have to bring to the table a willingness to be good partners beyond just money. Look at the single motherhood rate. You think women are selecting partners based on if they'd make a good parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:19 PM
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Egalitarianism is not something allowed by human biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:13 PM
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Is the conspiracy that it is happening, or specifically that it is planned, or specifically that it is planned for the purpose of replacement?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:12 PM
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This is a common myth. Statistics showing this use the same tactics as detailed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:07 PM
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Because they're fixed in to that position, so they need some form of excuse. As an explanation, they can just say that men are both evil and incompetent. Evil enough to set up the system, but incompetent enough to do it so badly that it hurts us too.
/r/MensRights08/11/21 08:07 PM
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I'm not saying it does matter. Other people are making claims about racial discrimination, which I'm then countering.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 02:45 AM
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Well I didn't say why, but I'm pretty sure that richer blacks use more than poorer whites anyway, though take that with a pinch of salt because it's just something I think I remember.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 12:26 AM
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This brings up a common myth that blacks use at the same rates as whites, but this relies on self-reports and blacks lie more about drug use as well as engage in riskier drug use behaviour.
/r/MensRights27/10/21 11:18 PM
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He said "they let you do it", so again, he only said that if you ignore the context.
/r/MensRights16/10/21 03:29 PM
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Lemme guess, you're just gonna believe them?
/r/MensRights16/10/21 02:53 PM
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You're literally assuming based solely on just what he said, and then ignoring the context in order to assume your conclusion. There is no reason to assume it is sexual assault unless you do that. You are the awful one.
/r/MensRights16/10/21 02:28 PM
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"They let you do it" No, it isn't.
/r/MensRights16/10/21 02:09 PM
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Since any human is capable of doing what another human does (in a theoretical sense) boys being boys is a cultural not a physical-limitation thing No action is theoretically physically impossible, therefore the differences are cultural? "Boys being boys" would be boy typical behaviour, and you are just assuming that the reason they're acting like that is cultural. Its fine for masculinity to, say, be competitive. But not to teach people that failure in competition means failure in life What if i…
/r/MensRights16/10/21 02:09 PM
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Which isn't related to race at all. It's just a group of men she didn't like in the city.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 05:02 AM
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It's curious how they present their (IQ denier and environmentalist point of view) as the position held by experts Because that's what the mainstream presents as the science, or, at least, what the mainstream has as an assumption behind what it says. Nobody wants to say "some people are just less intelligent and really can't do anything about it". the position of 100% environmental causes is the one that is outside of the mainstream There is a fairly sizable chunk of scientists who are fixed at …
/r/MensRights28/09/21 02:07 AM
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I have "read up" on iq testing including, which most people with views similar to yours hail as gospel, the bell curve Literally nobody cares about the bell curve. It's only relevance nowadays is people who argue against group differences thinking those who argue for are obsessed with it or something. The fact you think we hail is as gospel just proves that point. And i have read the other side of the story which i imagine you have not such as the mismeasure of man Something written before TBC b…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 01:06 AM
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There is no effective way of measuring intellegence, there is not even a completely agreed upon definition of intellegence Just read up on IQ and general intelligence. IQ is a valid, powerful predictor and is highly reliable. Frankly, this isn't even debated. To say that a biological group of people is inferior intellectually due to biological reasons is race/whatever you are discriminating against ist Or it's just factually accurate. Of course, nobody uses "inferior" or "superior" when talking …
/r/MensRights27/09/21 08:19 PM
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Saying women are fundamentally less intelegent due to the fact that they are women is sexist. It is as sexist as it would be racist to say black people are stupid. To be clear, if it is true, you are just calling reality itself sexist and racist. That renders those terms meaningless. I am not interested in writing a text wall about the problems with intelegence testing Good, because you'd probably be wrong.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 07:22 PM
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How? There is literally no reason to believe that. Race is not mentioned once. You're just inferring it from "unsavoury". Why make it a race issue when it's clearly a gender issue?
/r/MensRights27/09/21 07:02 PM
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Either you are argueing that women are disadvantaged or you are being sexist. Sex differences are sexist? If there are genetic differences, and we point these out, that's sexist, making reality itself sexist? I just want to check your logic here. Most geniouses and inventors also haven't been black Oh, we can discuss this as well... Lasker et al 2019 shows we can already explain 20-25% of that difference with known cognitive-ability-associated genes.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 06:59 PM
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It's exaggerating what is already there instead of artificially reversing it, making it more typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:46 PM
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And yet stereotype accuracy is a real phenomenon: Evidence is then reviewed showing that race, gender, and age stereotypes tend to be moderately to highly accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 12:06 AM
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If you compliment men a lot but don't get compliments in return, I'm just going to say you're the outlier and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 12:04 AM
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Why assume this is social conditioning, and not women's greater disgust sensitivity? Of course, it could be both, and realistically the societal part is built on top of the biology, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:13 AM
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Everyone is happy to live in nicer environments if they don’t have to clean and maintain them... The only difference is what OP said; that women tend to have a lower threshold to hit before it becomes too messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:11 AM
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I've said this before and simply gotten lots of "wtf? You seriously think that?" responses. Women have greater disgust sensitivity, and that leads to wanting to this difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:09 AM
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Except you see similar results when you just look at being asked to rate them and message responses and stated preference and basically all metrics, suggesting not just some cultural clash that would come up from being foreign born. I don't know of any data on change over time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 07:57 PM
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Maybe the most striking numbers are with regard to income-ethnicity trade-offs, as shown in Table 5.6. For equal success with a white woman, an African-American man needs to earn $154,000 more than a white man. Hispanic men need an additional $77,000, and Asian men need an additional $247,000 in annual income. and Stated from the men’s perspective, white men have the best odds of being contacted by women even if all racial groups are equally represented on the dating website, largely because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 06:22 AM
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The thing is... that's not tiktok I mean, I just went on the discover page and immediately found a lip-syncing trend, so it's very obviously part of the tiktok culture, but all doing the same dance was also a part of that. That said, it's not really relevant. How many men are actually complaining about tiktok being a place where women go and do lip-syncing and repititon of the same dances? It's more about it being teenagers. The majority of women go "I'll show them". The vast majority. That's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 01:46 AM
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there were these vegans that didn't shave because it was bad for the environment or something and there were these extreme feminists that didn't shave because feminism. Not all feminists, just the extreme one's. Like the batshit insane one's. And men would fucking bitch and bitch and bitch. So in your story, a bunch of women started not shaving, then men saw this and talked about them being silly. As I said, you've got causality backwards. Men always have opinions of what women do, regardless of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:40 AM
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Where did this "bitching" come from? Why would any men bitch unless people were already making a big deal out of it? You've clearly got it backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:50 PM
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You said this study refutes Ops claims I used the study in response to his claims, because it is clearly related, as past societies were less equal. Now, there are differences between past societies, and less developed and less equal societies today, but t's still useful information. I was pointing out how stupid you sounded when trying to sound smart. Just come out and say anything red pill is stupid then so everyone can see how biased you are. Pointing out the study you cited had nothing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:11 PM
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The thing is, all of your comments are extremely emotional and neurotic How? I've just stated facts, and, admittedly, added a bit of snark. It’s clear you have a significant bias towards men and have no social awareness of women’s rights, struggles and experiences. It's almost impossible to not be aware of women's issues. They're the ones that get all the press. You said I have no social awareness, but I've just been giving more accurate data on the issues that are called women's issues, thus sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:51 PM
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What? What's your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:56 AM
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Why are you changing the subject? Right, they clearly have no relation. I'm sure we couldn't learn anything from less developed countries and apply that to a historical, less developed US... Screeching red pill talking points and using red pill logic to appear smart. "This is red pill" is not an argument. People are doing it in this very thread. I haven't seen any, though admittedly I didn't read every comment or everything. I'm sure you'll be able to provide a number of examples though, obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:19 AM
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There's no stone cold proof of it occurring but actually there is also no proof that any of the stories were false or folklore Have you ever heard of the burden of proof? So any woman that fights back when abused in a relationship, gets thrown into the category of reciprocal violence Why would we expect women to suddenly become purely victims in 2-way DV, when they're the main perpetrator in 1-way DV? This is clearly something you'd only think if you're hugely biased. Meanwhile, women don't ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:55 AM
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Back in the day white people fed black babies to alligators This is a common myth and there is no evidence it happened. It's more "white people bad" propaganda: We are unable to prove the negative, of course. We cannot demonstrate that no infant anywhere, irrespective of color or creed, was ever used as reptile bait. But neither has anyone proved to date that infants were, in fact, used in such a manner. We checked this conclusion with Patricia Turner, who has probably done more research on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:38 AM
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Raping your wife was just you being a husband I can't imagine being as misandrist as you would need to be to believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:02 AM
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Men were legally allowed to beat and rape their wives. The last state to write domestic violence policies and marital rape policies into law was in the 1990s. Because before that, it was just called violence and rape. Not having specific laws didn't make it legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:09 AM
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I would also suggest that the black men making it all the way to college are probably less likely to be rapists Less so than the average lack man, but because of the differing standards used for black vs white applicants, there being a greater selection on whites, the difference between college students and the group average will be less for blacks. Well wouldn't that apply to all men? I don't know what you're asking, sorry. Well they are about 12% of the population but only 4.2% at this college…
/r/MensRights26/07/21 06:57 AM
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Arrest rates generally line up with victimisation data, so if you're implying bias in arrest rates, it appears there isn't any.
/r/MensRights25/07/21 04:49 AM
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I want to point out that FBI crime statistics say that blacks commit 28.6% of rape. They're about 13.4% of the US population now, so that's 2.13 times, which is nowhere near the disparity here, but that's for rape instead of "sexual violations", and it's 23.9% of sex offenses in the FBI data, so 1.78 times. Two things come to mind. First is the willingness to report in college vs outside; they may well be different. The second is affirmative action favouring blacks and thus allowing for the lowe…
/r/MensRights25/07/21 04:42 AM
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I'm aware of r/k strategy. If anything, it proves my point. Poor people have more kids, so being poor doesn't make you have fewer kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:04 AM
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Or people who plan typically have a higher quality of living. The causation is likely overwhelmingly in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 01:46 AM
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Then it's not a money thing, but a people who can plan thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 10:59 AM
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Irrelevant to the fact that they have more kids, meaning that it isn't about being poor that causes people to have fewer children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:55 PM
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Poorer people have more kids, both within countries and between them. It is not a money thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:04 PM
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Poorer people have more kids, both within countries and between them. It is not a money thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:40 PM
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My wife is a hardcore feminist You have my sympathy.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/07/21 10:45 AM
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But they very literally aren't as good as the men, so if they think they are on average, they're wrong. You can call it sexist and wrong to point that out, but then you're equally wrong.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/07/21 09:40 AM
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Putting aside the obvious that most men just don't think in these terms, maybe you mean how many men feel undesired and used? In that case, quite a few, but how many are actually undesired and used? Isn't the point that huge numbers of people, especially men, are bluepilled and thus ignoring reality? The divorce rate alone being so high (and obviously most divorces being initiated by women) suggests that a lot of men really are undesired.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:22 PM
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Except women don't leave male-majority fields. Results reveal different patterns for men and women. Men who enter a female-dominated major are significantly more likely to switch majors than their male peers in other majors. By contrast, women in male-dominated fields are not more likely to switch fields compared to their female peers in other fields. suggesting that the "it's hostile" idea is nonsense and if anything, it's the reverse.
/r/MensRights03/07/21 06:59 PM
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Choice feminism is disliked by actual feminist activists, and these women's choices are then used to fuel feminist advocacy because the numbers aren't equal. They don't want women to have equal rights. They want to force companies to hire women and stuff like that.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/06/21 06:02 PM
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Feminism was always a supremacy movement.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/06/21 05:58 PM
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There are plenty of places where women are still severely disenfranchised. Tech, for instance Women are hired 2:1 over men in STEM fields. That's not being disadvantaged. That's not being interested. FWIW, Feminism has nothing to do with taking that choice away from women In theory, but in practice, choice feminism is disliked by actual feminist activists, and just like you did earlier, women's choices are seen as evidence of discrimination, only further fueling the ideology.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/06/21 05:53 PM
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I mean, of course the men complaining are disproportionately going to be the ones who aren't doing well. Guys who fall short are obviously going to think about the rules of the game more than people who are winning and just go along with it, thinking that the dating game sucks will encourage some to give up, the ones that it inspires to be better are also the ones who are going to then stop complaining because they're off living their life, etc. None of this really invalidates any points about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:00 PM
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It very much does mean that, and sex positivity was always about being slutty, but that doesn't mean women want sex as much as men. Anyway, you're probably a troll, but even if not, you're being obtuse, so I won't respond again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:53 PM
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First of all, it wasn't me, but the specific wordings were "men want sex more" and "men have a higher sex drive", both of which very obviously mean that they want sex more often. Why would you think anyone meant "when they want sex, they are hornier"? To be frank, I'd question what you cited anyway, but even just accepting it on it's face, men want sex more often, which is what was meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:14 PM
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Though women do not experience sexual desire as often as men, when they do, the intensity of the experience is equal to that of men So what they were saying, and not what you were saying then...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:05 PM
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Both our nature in being more aggressive and our environment, as mentioned in the link, yes.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 08:42 AM
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For every racial disparity, people are usually ignoring a sex disparity that's even larger. Here is an article that goes over some of the statistics and frames it well, though it ultimately has a misleading title.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 09:00 PM
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If we're using IQ as a metric for dysgenesis, it's quite clear that the average intelligence has been going up over the past hundred years. This is true both globally, as well as broken down into smaller geographical regions. The flynn effect has reversed, and the flynn effect is also not g-loaded. It's environmental and this is why we can see apparent increases in IQ, while also seeing g decrease over time for at least many decades now. We have maximized the environmental effects, and now becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:44 PM
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IQ is 80% heritable in adults in the US. That means that 80% of the variance in IQ scores can be explained by genetic differences. If you're talking about racial differences, then while that 80% doesn't necessarily transfer across, it makes sense to be the default starting position. That or 50% to minimize the possible error. That said, there is good reason to think that racial gaps in intelligence are also highly heritable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:33 PM
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It's also objectively false: Rates of contact with services among middle-aged men were higher than expected; almost all had been in contact with a front-line service or agency at some time. It is therefore too simplistic to say that men do not seek help
/r/MensRights11/06/21 09:53 PM
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People can cause a problem that there is no realistic solution to, especially when you're talking about a society wide problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:35 PM
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Except what we care about is g, general intelligence, so it's really not just one type of intelligence, and, at least what other people put forward as types on intelligence, are just not intelligence.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/21 06:13 PM
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The Dunning-Kruger Effect doesn't seem to replicate On the basis of a sample of 929 general community participants who completed a self-assessment of intelligence and the Advanced Raven's Progressive Matrices, we failed to identify statistically significant heteroscedasticity, contrary to the Dunning-Kruger hypothesis. Additionally, the association between objectively measured intelligence and self-assessed intelligence was found to be essentially entirely linear, again, contrary to the Dunning-…
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/21 06:11 PM
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The Dunning-Kruger Effect doesn't seem to replicate On the basis of a sample of 929 general community participants who completed a self-assessment of intelligence and the Advanced Raven's Progressive Matrices, we failed to identify statistically significant heteroscedasticity, contrary to the Dunning-Kruger hypothesis. Additionally, the association between objectively measured intelligence and self-assessed intelligence was found to be essentially entirely linear, again, contrary to the Dunning-…
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/21 06:11 PM
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The Dunning-Kruger Effect doesn't seem to replicate On the basis of a sample of 929 general community participants who completed a self-assessment of intelligence and the Advanced Raven's Progressive Matrices, we failed to identify statistically significant heteroscedasticity, contrary to the Dunning-Kruger hypothesis. Additionally, the association between objectively measured intelligence and self-assessed intelligence was found to be essentially entirely linear, again, contrary to the Dunning-…
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/21 06:06 PM
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Girls grow up and become women who fear losing their rights, men mostly don’t and thus don’t understand. I wonder if this has anything to do with people constantly telling them their rights are in danger and under attack, vs the shutting down of any conversation about men's rights? it made me realise that I, as a woman, have grown up to know that my rights aren’t given HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Then there's just the typical ignoring of men's responsibilities and women's agency. Typical stuff.
/r/MensRights03/06/21 01:58 AM
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That is a good point, but one of the complaints is that it's a huge number of women with really high standards (80/20 rule), and that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:44 AM
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Of course, but not how someone else's standards are restricting your dating pool. That's ridiculous. Of course they are though. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. It takes her off the market so that's one less person you could date, and/or it prevents other guys from dating her and they will then go on to date other women who were potentially girls you could date. The only question is if people having ridiculously high standards is a widespread issue or just an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:54 PM
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So as I said in my first post, it's ok if she was in 3 LTRs It's much better than her sleeping around. It's not better than her not sleeping with them at all. If you think that your virgin girlfriend will pick up everything sexually and suddenly turn into a freak, you're insane I wouldn't want a freak. I'd want someone mentally healthy. Actually, the only person I know Anecdotes aren't data. He was with her for seven years total, and she still sucked compared to eight women he met on tinder. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 09:49 PM
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I was, like you are now, ecstatic because I valued a woman that a bunch of guys hadn't tarnished It's about the fact that she isn't choosing to sleep around more than the actual sex with a bunch of guys. You're already missing the point. Guys that want a virgin have never been with a virgin Except all the ones who are happily married to their previously virginal wives, who are happier than everyone else. The fewer partners a woman has had, the better for marital success and happiness. All partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 08:15 PM
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Practice makes perfect Then nothing you said will be a problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:25 PM
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It seems like it should be common sense why dating a virgin girl is a bad idea, but I'll spell it out. B A D S E X. Does having sex with different men make her good at sex? If having sex makes you good at having sex, then she can learn from doing it with you. I can't believe people accept this stupid logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:10 PM
1

Height matters hugely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:13 PM
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And every feminist will tell you they love men and just want to do right by them. Oh wait, they actually won't. There is a decent amount who are just honest.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 07:26 PM
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Except it's not. Please go ahead and ask the subreddit if feminism is just women's rights advocacy. Please ask if all the MRAs here are also WRAs and be amazed that they all are, and yet they aren't feminists. Almost as if they are two separate things.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 06:56 PM
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The problem with men's right is that all it does is complain about female rights Feminism =/= female rights.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 06:15 PM
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a "traditional relationship" isnt a relationship between 2 people who love each other - its a joint venture to organize the upbringing of the children and a succesful family. Because of that we see all the problems in modern relationships... You don't see the contradiction here? If the problem is with modern relationships, then the traditional model clearly isn't the problem. Today, when there are fewer children per household and relationships are their least traditional, and you complain about …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 10:53 PM
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That's just a convenient way to dismiss statements of fact. Call them misogynistic and all of a sudden, they are also false. Someone makes a statement. This statement is either objectively true or false. Can this statement be misogyny? Can accepting this statement as true be an act of misogyny, or rather, is it necessarily? Or is it just how you phrase the statement? If instead, this person said "this particular set of women are being used for meaningless sex by a relatively small number of high…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:07 AM
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Just look at how petty the complaints are. Look how far they have to reach to find something to complain about, with the exception of custody which they lie about, and a weird equivalence with testicular torsion.
/r/MensRights16/04/21 02:11 AM
3

Almost nobody uses the term race to refer to species, but a lot closer to subspecies.
/r/BlackPillScience13/04/21 07:41 PM
1

Well, this is from 2006: “Table 5.5 shows the trade-offs between height and income. A man who is 5 feet 6 inches tall, for example, needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6 feet tall (the median height in our sample) and who makes $62,500 per year.” From here.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/04/21 05:31 PM
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They're full of it. “Table 5.5 shows the trade-offs between height and income. A man who is 5 feet 6 inches tall, for example, needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6 feet tall (the median height in our sample) and who makes $62,500 per year.” From here.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/04/21 05:27 PM
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Actually, this seems to be the politically correct not politically correct answer: A meta‐analysis is presented of 22 studies of sex differences in university students of means and variances on the Progressive Matrices. The results disconfirm the frequent assertion that there is no sex difference in the mean but that males have greater variability. To the contrary, the results showed that males obtained a higher mean than females by between .22d and .33d, the equivalent of 3.3 and 5.0 IQ convent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 10:17 PM
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The general factor of intelligence is well accepted and extremely well replicated, and what's wrong with Raven Matrices? The fact you say "whatever pseudo-science that shit is" suggests you don't even know what it is, and yet you're immediately going to dismiss it as pseudoscience.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/03/21 02:51 AM
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Actually, this seems to be the politically correct not politically correct answer: A meta‐analysis is presented of 22 studies of sex differences in university students of means and variances on the Progressive Matrices. The results disconfirm the frequent assertion that there is no sex difference in the mean but that males have greater variability. To the contrary, the results showed that males obtained a higher mean than females by between .22d and .33d, the equivalent of 3.3 and 5.0 IQ convent…
/r/PussyPassDenied14/03/21 12:22 AM
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Men have generally have greater variance in their genetic traits Actually, this seems to be the politically correct not politically correct answer: A meta‐analysis is presented of 22 studies of sex differences in university students of means and variances on the Progressive Matrices. The results disconfirm the frequent assertion that there is no sex difference in the mean but that males have greater variability. To the contrary, the results showed that males obtained a higher mean than females b…
/r/PussyPassDenied14/03/21 12:20 AM
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Actually, this seems to be the politically correct not politically correct answer: A meta‐analysis is presented of 22 studies of sex differences in university students of means and variances on the Progressive Matrices. The results disconfirm the frequent assertion that there is no sex difference in the mean but that males have greater variability. To the contrary, the results showed that males obtained a higher mean than females by between .22d and .33d, the equivalent of 3.3 and 5.0 IQ convent…
/r/PussyPassDenied14/03/21 12:11 AM
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Here.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/03/21 05:51 AM
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What book? Also, what if that perspective is the correct one? The studies say what the studies say. What you are saying is nonsense.
/r/MensRights13/02/21 01:17 AM
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There absolutely are lots of consistency errors in iq tests vs real world success Nobody is saying that IQ and real world success are perfectly correlated... here's a government article on how education effects intelligence Never said it didn't, but that doesn't prove anything relevant. It says years in education corresponds to higher IQs, but doesn't say quality of schooling does, which is what you would need t demonstrate. here's another on how environment also impacts iq This talks about corr…
/r/MensRights13/02/21 12:53 AM
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Show me a study Here is an article on it. that describes who and how it polled Who? Presumably you're just going to engage in source denial then? You'll say "This is by someone who I judge to be bad, therefore I can dismiss it", and of course you'll judge them to be bad based on them saying something you don't like. As far is controlling for IQ, not only are the tests not well standardized and inconsistent False. IQ tests scores are extremely consistent. but lower income areas have significantly…
/r/MensRights12/02/21 11:25 PM
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In the past 3 generations black people were born into poverty having to build themselves and their family from nothing Percentage black in an area is a better predictor of crime than poverty in numerous studies. Also, racial gaps in income disappear once you control for IQ.
/r/MensRights12/02/21 10:34 PM
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as long as in the future there is a sufficiently big MRM to balance things it doesn't matter if there is still feminism. In addition, if feminism gets eradicated, in 20 years girls and women might be in the same situation as boys and men are today in Western countries and we would be just as bad as feminists are contemporarily Sad to say, and I don't mean it in a rude way, but I think you're beyond delusional if you think that will ever happen.
/r/MensRights28/01/21 08:47 PM
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It's the old "Men don't have standards. Men have preferences."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 11:51 PM
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Because they don't understand feminism and what's wrong with it. They just know that it's got a bad reputation and so they avoid that social problem by not identifying as a feminist. Most non-feminists still believe everything feminists believe.
/r/MensRights19/01/21 01:28 AM
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Funnily enough, given how feminists say they want to be rid of gender roles, the answer is gender roles. We evolved to see women as weak and vulnerable and to want to protect them and keep them safe, and women evolved to be more sensitive because they are more biologically valuable, thus they make more of a fuss over even small non-problems. Meanwhile, we evolved to not really care about men because we're more biologically dispensable, and men evolved to be more stoic, thus we make less of a fus…
/r/MensRights11/01/21 08:34 PM
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Does it say anything in the middle or does he clearly depict either fucking or rejection? Yes... He talks about getting their number and meeting up. As in going on a date. Then this leading to sex, as it naturally would in any relationship. Are you saying that this is all you meant to? You only said fucking, but you meant the entire dating experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:31 PM
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Can you not see any middle ground between treating a guy like a weirdo creep and immediately fucking the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:08 PM
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Creeping around for a while Otherwise known as building the confidence to come talk to you, but phrased in the exact way that proves the point of so many people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 09:07 PM
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How much it has an effect on the actual spread of the disease is the point, but they weren't saying that masks don't work anyway. They were saying making them necessary by law is wrong.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/11/20 10:45 PM
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Interestingly, although the annual incidence of rape for women and being forced to penetrate for men are similar, a much smaller percent of men than women reported either type of victimization over a lifespan. Mathematically, this is only possible if a smaller group of men are being victimized repeatedly, perhaps providing evidence for exclusive selectivity (possibly hypergamous in nature) in women's choices of which men they sexually victimize. Or it speaks to men's nature of downplaying events…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 03:28 AM
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The problem isn't really women. It's the system that allows for (and encourages) the shitty behaviour. Nobody is saying that a woman who "makes money" is an awful, ball-busting careerist. It's women who place career ahead of everything else, and who then bitch about not being able to find a good man. Nobody is saying that a woman who settles down at a young age is a gold-digger. It's women with unrealistic standards. There is the issue of cheating and monkey-branching, and somewhere around 1 in …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:30 AM
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But there are some instances if you didn't choose white man you'd be in trouble (black guy in 1800 america The fact you have go back 200 years for an example tells us a lot. People / businesses have become a lot more aware of discrimination and it happens far less. But if you sent out 100 job applications then a few of them may end up in the hands of a racist hiring manager There is a lot of publication bias towards there being racism in hiring, the hiring gap has increased since the 70s, sugges…
/r/MensRights27/10/20 04:03 AM
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There's nothing "feminist" about wanting to kill all men Stop defending feminism. Find me someone who supports that who doesn't identify as a feminist.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/10/20 01:01 AM
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Why not blame single mothers for hooking up in general? If you are going to, then use a condom and be on some form of birth control. If you're talking about mothers who are left after being married and together for years, then that's comparable, but we should all know that it's mostly women leaving men in these cases. Sure, you can always say that there is some blame on the person who chose the piece of shit, overall though, you're comparing being a slut to wanting to have a family, and I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 02:05 AM
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Today us brown and black folks are knocking on the door. We're coming in one way or another. Give us what we want or we will invade... So progressive! I can't believe those nasty conservatives would dare to stand against such a kind message!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:40 PM
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Because everyone knows that it is our differences that bring us together... Also, excluded? They're being specifically pandered to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:17 PM
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Condom and birth control are equally the man's responsibility. The pill is equally a man's responsibility? An IUD is a man's responsibility? Sure, condoms are, but it's still not exactly down to the guy even with that. Telling anyone of any sex to kill a child because of their own irresponsibility is horrific. I hope you grow out of that mindset I'd actually tell them to not have sex, especially doubly unprotected, until they're with the person they want to spend the rest of their life with. Don…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:19 AM
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I'm blaming the woman for having the baby. You don't have sex and a baby instantly magically appears. You have unprotected sex and then wait 9 months. You could just use birth control, use a condom, and get an abortion if both of those fail. Given those options (and the most important option of all of not sleeping with men you don't want to be with), it is the mother's decision to have a child with a man who doesn't want to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:03 AM
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Let's be honest though; it's probably easier for people to accept that than the claim that women are just generally anti-male. At least it leans into the blank-slate, social conditioning idea. Or are you complaining about it being blamed on female teachers?
/r/MensRights18/08/20 03:29 AM
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AKA a bunch of women choosing to have children with men who clearly don't want to be fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:27 PM
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Feminists were never for equality. They were always only pro-woman.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/07/20 05:05 PM
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Men and women play about equally well and the blind auditions increased the amount of women in orchestras Actually, the funny thing is that they didn't. This was a misrepresentation that spread around because it fit the narrative. Here is an article on it. To quote from it: So, this table unambiguously shows that men are doing comparatively better in blind auditions than in non-blind auditions. The exact opposite of what is claimed.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/07/20 05:04 PM
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Blind auditions actually increased female representation in orchestras to a significant degree Actually, the funny thing is that they didn't. This was a misrepresentation that spread around because it fit the narrative. Here is an article on it. To quote from it: So, this table unambiguously shows that men are doing comparatively better in blind auditions than in non-blind auditions. The exact opposite of what is claimed.
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 06:14 PM
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Sure, girls can lie, but if a girl gives a high number herself, then you can use that. It doesn't get rid of the girls that give a low number when their actual number is high, but it will still filter out some low quality women.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/20 10:45 PM
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You will never find out. Whatever she tells you, it is probably a lie, and even if it is not, you will never know and probably suspect it is a lie But the guy here asked and did find out. He found out the number was too high, and thus got information he could act on. Sure, in most cases it might be BS, but is someone going to say she's been with 20 guys if she's been with 2? Probably not, so the question still lets you get rid of the women who admit to it, leaving you with those who don't admit …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/20 09:39 PM
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So you shouldn't find out? Are you saying it isn't important, thus making all of what you've said irrelevant? Or are you just saying to find out in a better way than "So how many guys have you slept with?"
/r/TheRedPill14/07/20 09:22 PM
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So are these same people also advocating for women to get all the better jobs, thus creating the problem they bitch about, or are they just not smart enough to blame the people who are?
/r/MensRights11/07/20 06:16 PM
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I'm not ignoring anything/ I'm reading it, then responding to it. it's not my fault that what you are saying is wrong or irrelevant.
/r/MensRights05/07/20 04:06 PM
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To your first point, men SHOULDN'T be any more financially responsible than women, that's the whole point Except it's an entirely irrelevant side-point, as feminists didn't argue for preferred custody for women based on the fact men shouldn't do the earning. They argued based on the superiority of women when it comes to raising children. If your point is that feminists today don't support men doing the earning, well according to you, they also support shared parenting, so in no way can you consi…
/r/MensRights04/07/20 08:29 PM
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The preference for women in divorce/custody/etc regardless of situation? You realise that this was brought about by feminists, and under patriarchy, men actually got custody by default because they were the ones financially responsible, right? The heightened rate of suicide amongst males versus females? Toxic masculinity ingrained into our culture affecting both how women are treated AND how men are able to/"allowed" to view themselves? Or maybe men have more shit to deal with, and nobody cares …
/r/MensRights04/07/20 06:49 PM
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Are you saying that the link doesn't work for you? Or are you just saying that you won't accept evidence from a page that requires using archiving? It isn't clear.
/r/MensRights24/06/20 08:34 PM
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Here is a blogpost going over it "In conclusion, both the NCVS and the UCR report very similar racial differences in violent crime. Because of this, it is highly unlikely that the UCR's numbers can be explained by police bias. Instead, the most likely explanation for the UCR numbers is that blacks really do commit far more crime than whites. Since police are demonstrably not bias when arresting people for most violent crime it is reasonable to infer, until evidence to the contrary is presented, …
/r/MensRights24/06/20 03:50 PM
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Now control for violent crime rate or rate of killing cops.
/r/MensRights24/06/20 01:02 AM
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This doesn't seem to be true. Arrest rates line up with victimisation data generally, and the less serious crimes have lower relative arrest rates, which suggests cops actually go easy on blacks a bit. Further, simulations show that cops are quicker to shoot whites and more frequently incorrectly shoot unarmed whites.
/r/MensRights24/06/20 01:01 AM
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But arrest rates line up with victimisation data, so in reality, they do.
/r/MensRights24/06/20 12:58 AM
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Well here is an article on poverty and crime. It's not as most assume.
/r/MensRights24/06/20 12:58 AM
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It's the old "Anything men like is objectifying. Anything men dislike is empowering."
/r/MGTOW21/06/20 08:10 PM
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First of all, Asians are halfway across the globe, literally But this discussion is about within the US... Plus, culture which is huge in Asia. Until now interracial marriage is only common in the US as most ethnics still prefer their own over whites But this discussion is about within the US... That’s why if you feed a Scandinavian diet to an Asian child, he’ll be well nourished and end up taller. Evidence of this? Also, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter why blacks are taller than asians on av…
/r/BlackPillScience18/06/20 05:56 PM
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So what? I don't think they care who attacks them, and it was about the rights people have; not who is infringing upon them. Nobody was playing the blame game. Also, everyone has the right to not get attacked. It's illegal to attack people. Obviously...
/r/PussyPassDenied13/05/20 02:45 PM
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IQ tests have already studied and re-studied up the wazoo about not being an accurate indicator of intelligence That is not at all accurate. IQ is the single best predictor, all round, of just about ever positive factor in life. and largely influenced and biased by cultural factors The supposedly more culturally biased subtests are the ones blacks actually do better in, relatively speaking. If you go only off the less culturally biased ones (which, by the way, are also the more g-loaded ones), y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 01:40 AM
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Well yeah, but that doesn't change that some people have genes that predispose them towards higher intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:37 PM
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Twin studies show that intelligence is about 80% heritable within adults within the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:47 PM
2

In the dating market in general, or within a relationship? In the market, then if you're extremely rich and good looking, what's wrong with recognising that and recognising that you're in the top percentile in terms of overall attractiveness? In terms of a relationship, hopefully you're with someone of the same quality, so neither of you is really the prize, but the idea of knowing your own value and not putting up with crap because of it is basically what "You're the prize" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 01:26 AM
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You think that there is zero difference between the lives of men and women within the same class? Like, I understand thinking that class is a much bigger factor, but believing that sex plays no role whatsoever is just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:29 AM
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Sounds like you're confused what a woman, and not women, should do. If women in general didn't put out easily, then there would be no problem for any particular woman of worrying they will lose the man by not putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 02:01 AM
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If you're a woman in STEM in a male dominated field that's already gone through lower level obstictcals and now you're well vetted, they want you more Except women in male majority fields don't leave more: "By contrast, women in male-dominated fields are not more likely to switch fields compared to their female peers in other fields"
/r/MensRights04/01/20 11:01 PM
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You still haven't explained why you think having an in-group preference is caring only about your own honour. Would you see protecting your own child as not caring about the child, but only caring about your own honour?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:28 AM
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You say men will "happily rape the women of another tribe/nation", but men will happily kill the men of another tribe/nation. How is that not caring more about women than men? Men are obviously also more likely to help women on the street, regardless of their group status, so how does that play into your theory? An in-group preference isn't the same as protecting your own honour. That's just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 03:19 AM
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The barbarossa video on male mother need, and I do recommend watching the video talked about. I don't think it's accurate to say that men don't want a loving, caring woman that often takes the form of the mother figure because that's the only woman he knows that ever would accept him like that. It's not about someone to do the laundry, even if that would be nice. As for control, well that's really a different thing. That's about hierarchy and just being dominant being better, and being rewarded …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:16 AM
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But there's only ever going to be so many men that women will be that crazy horny over, and a girl can want to fuck you fairly often without being driven to being that crazy horny. Obviously, you turning her on that much is good and what you should aim for, but it's just not realistic for most men.
/r/askTRP19/11/19 06:53 AM
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If she's making you wait then she isn't uncontrollably attracted to you... But does "not uncontrollably attracted" mean not attracted? Would a 6/10 girl be uncontrollably attracted to a 6/10 guy, or are you basically just saying as a guy, if you don't date down by a lot, you shouldn't date them at all?
/r/askTRP19/11/19 01:58 AM
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That they still buy all the same lies? I mean, have you talked to people? They still widely accept the pay gap, they still think DV is overwhelmingly male on female, they still buy the historical oppression narrative. Just ask people.
/r/MensRights16/11/19 07:15 PM
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They don't call themselves feminists, but they still buy all the same lies and the same false narratives. They just avoid the label because it gets hate.
/r/MensRights16/11/19 04:20 PM
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Nothing I said was slut shaming. My only point was about the contradiction in what you were saying and actually doing. If you feel ashamed, that's entirely on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:09 PM
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That's a convenient excuse. I point out that your words are contradicted your actions, and instead of actually making an argument, you dismiss the proof because I said "BS" and "fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 08:02 AM
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In the moment that the guy said that to me about how he “would be a slut” I had that feeling flood back to me, that horrible empty, gross, dirty pathetic feeling of lying alone in the bed after the guy has gone, feeling like the ugliest, most pathetic loser in the world because you had no fun, no connection, you just debased yourself for a guy who probably couldn’t remember your name if he tried despite the fact that he just inhabited your body Then why, the fuck, would you be sleeping around a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:44 AM
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Of course it's mainly about women. If a mgtow guy wants to talk about biking, they'll go to a biking subreddit... I see this criticism all the time and it's just so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 05:17 AM
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Briffault's law.
/r/MensRights04/11/19 07:50 PM
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I've accepted that genetics could play a part. I accept that race plays a part. We are talking about the racial differences, so you ca't accept one and only maybe accept the other. That's a contradiction. But I'm not going to agree that black people are more likely to commit crime because it's in their genes because there is no evidence to back that up This contradicts what you just said. If genetics plays a part in the difference between the criminality of the races, then they are more likely t…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/11/19 07:11 PM
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wanting women to have the right to vote Feminism didn't achieve this. work outside the home Women always worked outside the home. It was only upper class women semi-recently that had the privilege of not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 01:53 AM
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I think the bit i have trouble with is that you're calling this evidence where all I see is correlation You have to use some sense here. Correlation with something that could very obviously explain the correlation is different from a correlation with something that obviously can't. If there's a correlation between blacks and crime, I want to know why. Is it genetic? Is it cultural? Is it a wonderful trifecta of race, culture and genetics? Essentially everything is, yes, although race as separate…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/11/19 01:21 AM
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A lot of people think it requires behavior that can quickly veer into misogyny and things I consider indecent Literally only feminists think that, but why does it seem like he's aiming that specifically at those in TRP and the like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:41 PM
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It's hard to take it as a source because it's got a clear agenda. All of the sources point out correlation with no context or explanation Except there is an explanation, and what context do you need? The evidence is there to read, and yes, the agenda is to convince you and to stop you dismissing genetics out of hand like almost everyone does, but that's because they are convinced. Ultimately - it doesn't account for the environment. A white person in America and a Black or Hispanic person don't …
/r/PussyPassDenied03/11/19 08:33 PM
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It's also very hard to take that as a legitimate source Should I have just linked to each link it links to and copied the explanation here? I think there is a genetic factor in crime but not a racial one Race is genetic, but I assume you mean that individual differences can be explained in part by genetics, but across races, somehow there are no relevant genetic differences? There are genes that can result in increased violence and risk taking but I believe the only time that has been used in co…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/11/19 12:26 PM
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There is massive blame. People are constantly shitting on "deadbeat dads" ignoring that they are only dads because the women they had a baby with decided to have a baby with a guy who didn't want a kid. With birth control and abortions available, it becomes a choice and the single mothers make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:30 AM
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Kinda punctures your argument, eh? No, because it means you practically deny all social science. All you basically said was "I have a high standard of proof", which is funny given your extreme starting position. But let's dispense with this. You made the claim. Pony up the research and stop pretending you know what it is or what it says. Given what you've said so far, is there any point? If I present research showing that all the main culprits actually have little to no effect, as I said before,…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 10:31 PM
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Difficult doesn't mean impossible, but it does mean difficult. Pretending otherwise is being dishonest. Calling it so incredibly complex and extremely difficult is just code for you won't believe it. Would you really say the same about any social science? And if you would, then why bother saying it at all? Why are extremists always so dishonest? Again, you're the extremist.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 09:41 PM
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...or you are just wanting to handwave away the literal fundamental basis of science "The literal fundamental basis of science" to you seems to be assuming the extreme position, and insulting anyone who even considers otherwise... It is so incredibly complex that it is extremely difficult to tease out anything meaningful And just after saying misunderstand science, you go and straight up deny science.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 08:55 PM
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Can you point me to a study that manages to totally isolate race against socioeconomic status and environmental factors and shows definitively, the role race plays? Well I made a comment about this about a week ago, just pointing to two articles written about the subject, so I'll just link that. To be clear, this isn't some smack down ultimate argument or anything, but like I said, it's a big claim and instantly dismissing genetics as even possibly part of the difference is naive and purely ideo…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 08:13 PM
1

We value male traits more highly We value male traits more highly in men, and given that they are also conducive towards actually working and getting stuff done, we value them in the market too. We see crying in the workplace as weakness, even though it could come from passion. We see emotion as a problem, not a strength By definition, crying is when you are overwhelmed with emotions to the point your body wants to get some of them out. They contain high levels of stress hormones. Getting rid of…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 08:05 PM
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The fact I didn't cite any doesn't mean there isn't any, and they aren't a made up concern, but the need to invent some new possible confounder rather than accept genetics plays some part is the problem.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 07:57 PM
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Almost like I said it was a big claim and not a wrong one... However, I don't automatically assume 100% environmental differences like you do, so I'm actually a moderate by position, rather than an extremist like you. Also, "many confounders" is just so often an appeal to some possible unknown environmental effect. Significant differences remaining after you account for some basics like SES are, in reality, a good enough hint that there's some genetics to it (also, that's ignoring that differenc…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 04:50 AM
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Oh Jesus you are one of those Yes, I am one of those who doesn't automatically assume that every single group is identical in every trait, because it's not like we evolved apart for tens of thousands of years or anything... Also, you're one of those who instantly feels justified in dismissing and ignoring everything else that has been said because a naughty topic that you aren't meant to discuss was brought up. That's worse than any analysis of statistics could ever be. I recommend taking some a…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 04:20 AM
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No one is saying that biology is irrelevant Maybe you aren't, but it's extremely common that people believe exactly that, even if they pay lip-service to the idea of biology being an influence. It is unnatural to ride around in cars, use spreadsheets, and all the other technology we use I think this could be equivocating. It doesn't really go against our natures to use technology. If we were to force men to stay at home while women went off to fight wars as an obvious extreme example, that would…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 04:03 AM
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You are simply taking it to the other extreme and assume it's all biological Not all, but you have to remember that your environment is also partly genetic. If you're really smart, you're going to create an environment for yourself that is more intellectual in nature. The same for your interests. The same for everything. and presumably biology is therefore moral Well that's a jump. I'd love if we could actually be properly equal, but that would require us being equal. It would mean being the sam…
/r/PussyPassDenied02/11/19 02:50 AM
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Funny that you ask why a bunch of times, but then stop as soon as you get to the "we socialise them into it" answer. Why do we give girls barbie dolls and give boys soldiers and trucks? Because they like them, because we evolved differently. It isn't that men can't cry. It's that men generally don't cry due to having less of the hormone that causes crying, having larger tear ducts, etc, and so we expect that. Society just doesn't care when men cry so they aren't encouraged to like women are. Als…
/r/PussyPassDenied01/11/19 11:53 PM
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They work for me. Not sure why they wouldn't for you.
/r/MensRights26/10/19 03:18 AM
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Skin color is about as biologically significant as hair color in terms of genetic difference Which is why people talk about race and not just skin colour. Or are you saying that you think the only difference between the races is skin colour?
/r/MensRights26/10/19 02:11 AM
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Imma use 2 sources that go hand in hand with each other that proves that it's more of a poverty issue than a race issue The link between poverty and crime is shaky at best and race is a better predictor of crime For some short snippets: "Across these 9 models, race was a better predictor of homicide than unemployment, poverty, and median income, in 7, or 78%, cases, and a better predictor than income inequality in 8, or 89%, cases. Thus, over 3 decades of very large data sets, race was pretty co…
/r/MensRights26/10/19 02:09 AM
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Avoidance of relationships that can get you legally fucked then I guess. I know some do date. I was just speaking off the cuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:05 AM
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The fact you can't imagine men who aren't just as obsessed with pussy and female validation as you are speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:06 AM
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You mean the group of men with the single common factor of avoidance of relationships with women talk primarily about that one thing? I am shocked! If they want to talk about bikes, they'll go to a biking community. Of course they're going to talk about women. This is such a dumb point to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:57 AM
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You kind of have to look at it from the woman's perspective to see why. For women, sex is cheap. It's something that's easily gotten. Eating junk food is cheap and easy. It just isn't good for you. Staying fit and healthy is relatively hard. A woman sleeping around a lot is a sign of low standards and low self-control. Sure, it doesn't necessarily prove that about her, but obviously people work based off what is generally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 07:02 PM
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It's just the extreme end of the bell curve that they all sit on.
/r/BlackPillScience15/09/19 02:41 AM
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I'd bet my left tit that you've been told dozens of times by women that we don't think that way, yet you'll forever believe that women are a shallow hivemind because it fits your narrative. Because you should always listen to people with an interest in convincing you that that isn't true... That sounds like a personal problem my dude. Men all around the world are in great committed relationships What's the divorce rate around the world? How many of the marriages that remain together are actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 09:18 PM
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I am not going to comment on whether their theories are true or not. That's not the point. If it is true, then it can't be misogynistic. You're really just talking about how it is presented, in which case fair enough. People on TRP seem to want to share their ideas, but only with those that are looking for them, in which case they will ignore the language used and focus on the ideas. I think it actually serves a purpose to help people get over their biases, but it can obviously put people off. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:30 PM
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question is why do women keep saying they want a good man? Because it makes sense to want a good man. Why would you not want someone who would only treat you right? They just also have an illogical nature that pulls them towards the bad boys. They want their chad to be a good man, they don’t want an actual good man. Right. Because an actual good man isn't potentially dangerous, and that danger is a useful tool. They want a tamed beast. Even Jordan Peterson has done videos talking about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:52 PM
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Being interested in serial killers is normal because they're interesting. They're so far on the extreme. Being sexually attracted to them is the weird part. The term is hybristophilia - A paraphilia in which a person is sexuoerotically attracted to a person who has committed an outrage or a gruesome crime. You should ignore the people, saying it happens equally between the sexes, because I don't think that's even true, and they're still forgetting just how much more attention regular women get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:21 AM
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50% of pregnancies, but if abortion is available, then 100% of births are planned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:20 AM
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Ha, not saying if I agree with it or not, but I can definitely see why you have the tag that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:26 PM
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Women have the sexual and social power, and if they can get away with stuffing their faces and not dealing with the consequences, of course they're going to jump at the chance. Men don't have the sexual power, so no chance of still being somewhat successful whilst being fat, so they don't even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:04 PM
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I know... The "men and women are the same" is what the mainstream feminists are going for which is why the TERFs are so hated by the mainstream.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/19 02:03 AM
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Well the TERFs are basically just so man hating that they can't go along with the "men and women are the same" bit, along with not wanting to share privileges.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/19 12:38 AM
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Feminism also attacks traditional gender roles, but that doesn't mean it isn't the manifestation of the negative feminine. Think of seeing threats everywhere and over-sensitivity, think of all the nagging and complaining, think of the narcissism, think of the entitlement, and the craving for victim-hood to use as a weapon. I do think this might be combined with some lower agreeableness in the more rabid types, but in terms of goals, they aren't that different. Attacking traditional gender roles …
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/19 12:24 AM
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Feminism is femininity. It is just the more negative aspects of it that are ignored by most people more in favour of gender roles because they see only the positive feminine.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/19 07:39 PM
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I'm also not advocating for a population increase There is no conceivably good reason to continue increasing the population. First, there's this... the cost of land, housing and food is so high noone can even afford children. The solution is a lower population, and so a low birthrate is a very good thing It's that simple. What is the solution to exactly here? It is not clear? Is the solution of a lower population a solution to an overpopulation problem, in which case, duh, or to a low birth rate…
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 06:48 AM
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The earth has limited fresh water, farm land, raw materials. Fresh water is replenished, farm land actually is limited, but not to a degree that it actually matters, and raw materials can be reused. No, we use the resources quite effectively and wastefully due to high population and lack of sustainability. It makes zero sense to increase the population unless the entire planet has already reached total susatainability. Quite effective relative to what? Absolute possible efficiency, or past effic…
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 03:09 AM
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The limiting factor is not the resources we have, but our inability to use all the different resources. More people means more innovation means being able to support more people.
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 01:14 AM
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Feminism is the politicisation of female nature. What you are calling femininity is just the positives of female nature. You are not looking at the whole.
/r/MGTOW13/02/19 07:21 AM
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And we already pay these people for their work, so paying you to raise somebody who will work for me is paying twice. Also, how would you measure if they are doing a good job on a per parent basis? You'd have to send someone into each person's home and watch them raise their kids. Also, what values would you reward parents for teaching their kids? This would quickly get political via that problem.
/r/MensRights26/11/18 01:56 AM
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What good or service are you providing to someone by raising your own children or cleaning your own house? You could say that you are providing for your child, in which case you should charge them, but that seems rather ridiculous. If you stay at home and your partner works, then your partner is essentially paying you to stay at home and do the housework and raise the kids, but you don't mean that sort of arrangement I don't think.
/r/MensRights25/11/18 09:13 PM
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But how do you create a culture where slut behaviour is romanticised? I don't think you can. I think it's natural based on people's behaviour. Women got birth control, and then starting sleeping around more.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 06:38 PM
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Which is just them reacting based on other behaviours like wanting to fit in. That social shaming though is just other women not wanting that woman to give it away too easily because it devalues them also, along with men and women who want a long term thing.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/18 06:37 PM
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I do wonder if the difference between mgtows and red-pillers is just down to a difference in sex drive in a lot of cases.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/18 04:41 PM
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What is the mainstream culture if not a group of people acting on their instinctive behaviour? You might get a small group of people that overcome their instincts, but most people run on auto-pilot.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/18 04:36 PM
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So long as all the prior statements are true than the conclusion is true. That would make it valid, but not proof as you claimed. Also, you do just assert that the number of unreported rapes is greater than zero in your second last step. While this is undoubtedly true of the real world, it then shows that this is not just "true within itself", and you need to look at the real world to get data. You can literally just substitute in numbers to see that it isn't true. Let's say that there is 1 unre…
/r/MensRights03/10/18 12:19 AM
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You're saying it is not logically possible for there to be zero rapes and 1 false rape allegation? You said necessarily, so you must believe this, even though it's clearly wrong.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 09:55 PM
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But it was saying women underrate men; not overrate themselves.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/18 10:00 PM
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There was a study showing that queens started more wars than kings by about 27% iirc.
/r/MGTOW18/09/18 10:55 PM
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The equal pay act has been a thing for decades already.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/18 07:43 AM
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The pill isn't 100% effective, and lots of women "forget" to take it, but you still have them sleeping around now, so they get pregnant and become single mothers, especially after abortion is legalised. This is definitely worth a watch for the data and explanation.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 04:45 AM
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I'm on mobile right now, but you can look at pew research data and most people agree with the talking points even if they don't call themselves one. Just Google something like "pew research gender inequality perception".
/r/MensRights27/06/18 04:08 PM
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Just a pdf on chrome for me too. Don't know what he's on about.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 12:45 AM
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Isn't that how many were proven to be false accusations? If so, how many were proven to be true? The rest are unknown. They might be true or they might be false. That's a minimum number.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 11:28 PM
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You've got it wrong, and you're still viewing women as just innocent brainwashed victims in this change. This change is explicitly because of women. Women, fundamentally, dislike men, or at least don't care about them, and thus their economic freedom (whether through getting a job or through perceived freedom through welfare) as well as their sexual freedom allows them to distance themselves from men, just using them as disposable utilities. The second they could have all the sex they want with …
/r/MGTOW05/06/18 12:16 AM
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That counts people who can't get someone to have sex with them in with the group that can. You're counting all the 1s and 2s in with everyone who just doesn't get married, vs all the people who do get married.
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 05:45 PM
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It's the threat narrative that forms based on some very basic biases. Combine female hypoagency and male hyperagency with women's overactive threat detection bias and a very safe world, and you essentially get the narrative that there is danger and discrimination everywhere and all of it is men's fault.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 04:59 PM
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Well you're always going to have some exceptions. What problems would you say that women have today, and why do you think they have those problems? You're saying it has nothing to do with men setting the system up for men at the expense of women?
/r/MensRights10/03/18 12:28 PM
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Lost of people here saying that feminists don't actually say that masculinity is toxic. Given how the base assertion of feminism comes down to men set the system up for men at the expense of women, I don't know how they could believe anything other than men are inherently selfish and bad, and thus that masculinity is inherently toxic.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 11:13 AM
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I think this is their stated problem, but it is actually that they lose some of their power over men when men can get sex from elsewhere.
/r/MensRights09/06/17 04:07 AM
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The 2-8% figure is actually wrong. TL;DR did a video on it in response to Laci Green. The relevant parts are: The 2% figure: "It apparently traces its lineage back to Susan Brownmiller's legendary "Against Our Will," and her citation for this figure is a single speech by an appellate judge before a small group of lawyers. His source for this statistic was a single area of New York that started having policewomen conduct all rape interviews." It is now over 4 decades old "data", and the actual da…
/r/MensRights05/02/17 11:27 PM
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You could go by the numbers gathered by pew: https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/pew-poll-analysis-a-billion-muslims-want-sharia-law/ It does depend on what you consider radical, but I'd say that's fairly radical.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/11/15 07:38 PM
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