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Your experience is by no means the norm. Most women say that they don't want to approach. Exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:37 AM
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What should it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:48 PM
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Because unlike men, orgasms are not always guaranteed for women during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:46 PM
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Jesus Christ. We are still arguing about this in 2023? How often do women risk their reputations, livelihoods and sometimes health for a sexual encounter with a complete stranger? How often do you have women being caught watching lewd content in public? How often do you have women being caught watching lewd content in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:44 PM
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Just like body count. 5 years ago nobody in the real world talked like that, now body count is the biggest deal to men about women because of cultural. As someone from a poor country where many people do not have access to the internet and still live like they did 30 years ago, I can tell you that this is false. Even men in such areas care a great deal about how many men the woman their interested in has been with or is currently with....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:10 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:52 AM
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You do know that this preference has been documented extensively, especially in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:46 AM
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Like lotto tickets, sometimes it takes more than that. & yet don't mathematicians tell us that gambling is usually a very dumb idea? Why spend that much effort on an activity that generates a literal 0% success rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:14 AM
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I think I fit this checklist. I am a trained musician that has played for a max audience of 2500 people, I have a degree in electronic engineering (working in a different field though cause my country has no electronics industry) and I . My lack of social life comes from the fact that I am ugly. At least that's what girls in middle school would call me and I had no reason to doubt them. From then on, I would to isolate myself and get better at my music and mathematics. If they didn't want me why…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:12 AM
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Fuck it, I don't think I can wait 2 years....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:31 PM
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Forget keto, it’s a stupid diet and totally unnecessary.You just need more steps per day to get bmi in order. Most of the research I've done shows that diet is more effective than exercise for weightloss... Your face will thank you (face is like 60% of dating app success, you should see some improvement in match quality). I don't even use online dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:27 PM
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Can steroids speed the process up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:24 PM
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What's your height/weight/bf%? Height: 5'7~5'8 (Nurses can't seem to make up their mind.) Weight: 197 lbs BF%: I don't know...I don't know how to measure Remember - you can't out-train your diet - keep it in check I know. I've been on keto with on and off intermittent fasting for the past 6 months. Still look like a pear. I love being horny As a man, it can be problematic if you're too shy to interact with the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:59 PM
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For the past 6 months, I've been running 5kms, 3 days a week, I do weight training 3 days a week, and have switched to keto-diet. Although I've gotten stronger, my body still looks chubby. I still have a lady's ass and my skin still jiggles when I jump. How long will it take till I start look like a Hollywood actor? And btw, no one told me that I'd get so much more horny when I get active. Is this normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:53 AM
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Because it doesn't come from a genuine place of authenticity/desire/wanting to treat the men that. It comes from circumstances/desperation. I don't think those two are always mutually exclusive. As someone from a poor country, I can tell you that a guy just having the title "Westerner" already puts him near the top of the list for many women. And that's before we get to their height or wealth, which are both far above the average male's in my nation. What appears to be low standards to westerner…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:38 PM
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Admiration for what? I don't know and perhaps they truly are undeserving of admiration but that is irrelevant to the discussion. The question is how is PBing worse? A lot of men here seem to want to just strut into a poorer country and be treated like a coddled prince/mini-God for nothing other than their gender and nationality Well if women from poorer nations have no problems giving them that treatment, undeserved as it may be I fail to see the issue. So once again, how is it worse for these g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:43 PM
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I'll argue it's worse. How so? I'm not a westerner but from what I read online, all western men a want is a pretty, feminine, occasionally submissive woman that will give them sex and admiration on the regular. Foreign women seem to have no qualms giving all of that to Western men at a price that wouldn't even get you a second date in the west? So what if you have to pay her family's way out of poverty? So what if you have to upgrade her education? The men got what they wanted. How exactly is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:32 PM
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Linking this kind of behavior to female sex drive may be a bit of a stretch but I would argue that a large portion of women are doing this because they want to impress men by looking beautiful for them. Wouldn't you say that is a form of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:43 AM
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What convinces you of this? Because stats from online dating apps seem to suggest that there are serious power law distributions when it comes to dating.....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:19 PM
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Women may like the “idea” of a happy relationship and storybook marriage, but compared to men their sex drive and therefore active determination to engage with and meet men is nonexistent. Yet they continue to flood Instagram fishing for likes and comments and get depressed when they fail to succeed in doing so. While the female libido has nothing on the male one, I don't think that means they're completely disinterested in men. Even when they do find a man attractive, they keep their ego so clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:15 PM
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And how is that a better approach than not being too invested in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:18 PM
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The problem with many men is that they don’t actually like women. What does "actually liking women." look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:13 PM
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since their brains are physically different from mens' brains. Do you have any evidence for this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:04 PM
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Masturbate when the horniness begins to become uncomfortable...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:02 PM
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Do you really need dating advice if you've managed to sleep with a lady? Judging by online discourse and recent news reports, the men that need such kinds of advice are not getting any level of sexual attention at all....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:05 AM
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Doubt it...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:47 PM
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Personally, I feel like there is enough information online for everyone to get thin and avoid obesity, yet some people still seem to find it difficult OR still complain that they don’t know how to get thin, and that they can’t lose weight. Do you see the parallels? Perhaps the reason we have this big of an issue is because most of this information is either contradictory, misleading, incomplete or flat out wrong. For instance, one lady on TikTok will tell you never to approach a lady in public w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:34 PM
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No sane woman will wait decades for Chris Hemsworth to ask her out. I think we may have a rather high population of insane women...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:40 PM
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Basically all of Chapter 2 and 3. Here are two quotes from chapter 2, I think; • "A non-needy man will be more invested in himself than the woman he's with." • "Seduction is the process by which a man induces a woman to become as invested in him as he is in her. There are 2 ways for seduction to happen: A man creates the perception that he is far less invested in her than he actually is. A man actually is less invested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:30 PM
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Mark Manson, a "guru" in the realm of female attraction, came to the same conclusion. I suspect you've read his book, given you use almost the same wording as he does. Basically, a woman wants a man that is less invested in the relationship than she is. Uncomfortable finding, but given that his credentials include sleeping with 100+ women and writing a book ex-incels swear by, we can't take his opinion too lightly....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:53 PM
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Dating apps can be more accurately named "hook-up" apps, and research has shown that men are far more interested in STR's than women. Thus there is a population skewness toward male presence on 'dating' apps. This still doesn't prove men are hypergemous. Even when women are given the chance to dictate the terms, ala Bumble, we still see the same phenomenon women going for the top ~5% of guys... Have a look around this sub and you will see the long list of requirements for a man's ideal bride. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:14 AM
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Why is a guy being a virgin implies there is something wrong with him? Why are people with no prior experience seen as unattractive to employers? I think the answer to these 2 questions is similar. According to many people, ladies are for the most part looking for the one optimal partner and the best way to know who that is having another woman vet you. If they found you attractive enough to sleep with, then there's probably something good about you. Whereas if you're 30 and are yet to have your…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:09 AM
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That is true, but I can guarantee you that most young guys get into it these days simply because it'll increase their chances of attracting a lady...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:59 AM
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I heard most ladies tend to react poorly to blunt requests for sex... Especially on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:53 AM
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Women have to ornate themselves to pleasure a man, this is certainly not something the average male has to endure. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Why the heck do you think gym culture is booming right now among young men? Add to that fact the biological implications women …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:59 PM
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There's actually one girl who said she'd have more respect for a guy who goes down on her during that time of the month...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:50 PM
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"You have no idea how much I just want to rip those clothes off you and pound you til one of us gets raw genitals."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:48 PM
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Sounds exhausting...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:39 PM
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If you don't exercise then you're not an cel. You're choosing to be fat and unattractive. Just so you know, exercise is a poor method to lose weight. Also, not everything incels complain about is under their control e.g. height, facial looks. While other things are a lot harder to control e.g. finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:26 PM
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The red pill movement started as a guide for hook up culture, so that men can learn to take advantage of women to sleep with as many they could. While I do believe that the red pill leans heavily into teaching men strategies for pursuing casual sex, I don't believe that's how it started. Most PUA biographies I read seem to indicate that these are men who after they realised they were clueless about charming women, buried themselves in the library studying psychology and ended up overcorrecting. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:19 PM
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But according to new research the man was right to exaggerate his height - because the woman wouldn't have looked twice at his profile otherwise. [Exhibit C] Nothing about the majority of women demanding men be at least 6ft to date. Ayt
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:20 AM
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I find it truly amazing that any information that happens to be politically inconvenient about women automatically gets you labeled as a redpill these days. Now I'm really not sure you actually read what I've posted, but judging by your comments on other posts in this thread, it looks like you're miles underwater with your beliefs. So I will just give a few full-verbatim quotes from each of the 4 reports for anyone else reading this far. Please be the judge on the demand of 6ft+ men on OLD platf…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:52 AM
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Not all status comes from wealth e.g. religious heads aren't always rich, yet women that have that worldview find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:12 PM
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I think it's at par with looks. Case in point are these rappers with the most evil haircuts and offensive face tatoos having lines of groupies backstage. Unless you are downright hideous, I think high status could almost always compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:09 PM
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Because men are more inclined towards violence in every level. Whether women are or aren't interested in watching (spolier alert: they're far more disturbed and disgusted by violence.) doesn't make men more violent. Sorry, what? Why not apply your analysis of female bullies to male ones too? I could, but it falls apart when I try to prove the counterfactual. The counterfactual is that there are ugly male bullies that do get plenty of female attention simply because they're at the top of the aggr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:43 PM
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Sure.... Exhibit A. Exhibit B. Exhibit C. And why don't we just throw in some non OLD data for good measure, ey?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:50 PM
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I hope you'd notice the reverse is true. Women don't tend to get famous for crime, And why is that the case, I wonder? Why is viewership of true crime largely women? Could it be that some women are fascinated by these exploits, heinous as they may be? but female bullies certainly get a high proportion of romantic attention. I think you may be switching cause and effect. IME, female bullies usually get awag with it because they're hot, not because they're at the top of any aggression heirarchy. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:25 PM
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"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." - Henry Kissinger I would say that it's arguably the most powerful thing a man can use to attract partners. Men who obtain status through questionable means (e.g. Serial killers, Mafia bosses and Highschool Bullies) have all never been short of female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:06 PM
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One may very well do that. But that still doesn't discredit this.... If at this point people know that most things online are a facade, why haven't we seen a relaxation of such kinds of criteria? If truly; The whole debate of 'women only want 6ft tall guys' thing is stupid We must see the majority of women using OLD relaxing their selection criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:47 PM
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Bro, I really wish I went to your school. Our bullies were tall, muscular and some had mid-level martial arts training. I bet that's what made them so effective at hurting people. The "goofy, ugly, overweight or weird" guys usually just kept to themselves and didn't bother anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:49 PM
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Only a moron would think something like: "you cant be emotional around women!!" when real women regularly complain about men being emotionally stunted There's a difference between what people say they want and what they actually want. I'd say most of the married/engaged guys I've spoken to about this issue have said that being emotional in front of a woman is very often a big, big mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:38 PM
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In general, a lot of people online need to touch grass and meet real people. I think it would be helpful to ask why people retreated there in the first place. A big reason is that There are very few places where random meet ups are acceptable anymore. The church in most of the Latin West is on life support, so that's no longer tenable. Work, for many reasons, has also become a huge no-no (Don't shit where you eat is a common advice given to new employees.) College, bars and hobbies seem to be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:24 PM
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It was definitely true in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:57 AM
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When you go out in public you will see that fat men, short men, under weight men are in relationships. And we don't know what circumstances surround the formation of these relationships. Is the man funny? Is he rich? Is he rising up the ranks in his career or better, is he already at the top? How about the lady in question? Is she comfortable with him because they've know each other since they were kids? Or maybe she likes him because they go to the same synagogue/church/library. Just because we…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:35 AM
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Getting married in Africa ain't so bad
/r/AllPillDebate11/06/23 04:20 AM
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Can't say I haven't thought about it. But the risks involved always seem to outweigh any benefits I'll gain losing my virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:08 AM
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I thought we were in a sex recession?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:07 AM
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Have you ever seen the lead of a rom com for women be some whose short and fat? Yes, I have actually. The Holiday. Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Knocked Up....And that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure if I look I'll find more. The argument I posed was not women are not visual. The argument I posed was women are not as visual as men. Yes, a certain threshold needs to be met, yet even once that has been acehived, there are still other criteria need to be satisfied before a woman considers you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:00 AM
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And how often are these men shown in outfits that accentuate their masculinity? Would these men have the same level of female attention if they didn't have other talents to back it up? The argument is not that women are not visual. The argument is that women are not as visual as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:23 AM
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Desperation is a powerful motivator...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:50 PM
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I tried. My findings were that male creators focusing on female demographic and coming out decently successful is rare. As u/thetruthishere_ has said, most male creators that make money on OF are producing gay content... Which once again confirms that men are a lot more visual than women. Even when they aren't heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:48 PM
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Women are just as visual as men. Tell me why then is porn directed at females still an exceptionally small market? If truly women got turned on by looks, we should have, tall, muscular, men making a killing doing adult entertainment directed at women. Why is it that we have failed to see many male models make a killing on OnlyFans, focusing purely on the female demographic? Yet harlequin romance novels fly off the shelves like masks during a covid pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:04 PM
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Why don't they do the illustrations with him in the novel then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:56 PM
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Isnt that self improvement? Not necessarily. If you already have the genetic propensity to remain leaner than others, can we truly say staying lean would be self-improvement? Self-improvement to me would be filling up because men in your vicinity prefer BBWs. My argument is that instead of trying to become plump, try and find partners that prefer a lean partner than stress yourself chasing what may be too difficult for you to achieve. What does that mean? I would say that it's the same as busine…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:22 PM
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If you are turning to self-improvement in the hope of improving your chances in the dating market, then I must warn you that it is a strategy just like moneyball. It only works when others are not doing it. The moment others catch up to what you're doing, you're done for. A better strategy is to look for people that already like the qualities you have or the qualities you are working towards...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:30 AM
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She will care if it seems like she might not get the resources and commitment from him to raise her offspring, though. That is correct, but this usually happens after the deed is done. A man that has even a few resources to spare and wants to pursue the numbers game can simply dote on a handful of women until he gets the amount of sex he desires from them. Then, he can cut them off and pursue other women. Callous, but such are startegies conived in game theory. The problem is that high value men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:41 PM
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Exactly. If IIRC once we combine evolutionary psychology and game theory, then casual sex is actually a beneficial thing for men and their genetic code. The more women a man impregnates, the greater the likelihood his genetic code is passed down. This is not true for women. A woman can only be pregnant by one man at a time, so pursuing a numbers startegy doesn't make sense because your genetic information will only be passed one at a time. This may explain why men sometimes go for quantity based…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:02 AM
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What are some ways you observe these traits outside a relationship? How does she treat people when under pressure or under duress? How does she treat people that are her juniors?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:35 AM
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No, it wouldn't...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:10 AM
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I don't think most women know this when going in. If they do they're behavior doesn't reflect any aversion to such behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:45 PM
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If you did, you'd have more. Argument applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:43 PM
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Be ready to deal with a smaller dating pool, though.... Depending on culture, a way smaller dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:31 PM
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Non-Western male here that knows folks that have migrated there. A common complaint I hear from dudes that try their luck with western women is that many western women don't really know what they want. They will say a they want a man that has x,y,z attributes and then behave in a manner that would repel a guy with such attributes. e.g. One guy heard a lady in his college class say she likes it when a guy takes charge and yet would complain about how guys thought she needed to be taken care of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:13 PM
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Dear ladies of PPD, For as long as you aren't obese, a lot of men probably find you pretty. Being a little chubby is okay. You do not need to become anorexic to look good. If you want proof (& if you have the stomach for it), please hop onto PornHub and scroll the top 200 actresses. Tell me how many of them are super thin? Do all of them have no belly fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:12 AM
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Exactly. Which is why I'm agreeing that it may indeed qualify as sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:59 AM
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Does this seem like the usual reaction to taking a normal amount of liberty in bed? No, it's not but that's why some are befuddled when it happens. Someone running away when you whip out handcuffs seems not just reasonable, but advisable. However, someone running away when you're getting ready to perform oral sex on them in the hope that it might give her an orgasm is a little confusing. But it's her body, so can we really say that it is unjustified?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:54 AM
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Is this really controversial though? If you're unattractive, it'll take you longer if ever to have someone drop their guard for you. A bad personality can only mess things up once you've been let in the door. Whereas unless you're extroverted, your good personality will count for nothing with strangers... Unfortunate if you wanted to play the numbers game, but still workable if you want to play the long term game...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:47 PM
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Indeed...unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:46 PM
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1) Double standards in age difference. Couples with older man younger woman are more socially acceptable - increasing 'demand' for young women and competition for them. In my experience, this is held up more by women than men. At least until the mid-30s. IME, Young men wouldn't mind dating women slightly older than them but it's usually the women who say they want someone more "mature," and brush them off. Heck, I know of women that won't date men the same age because "women mature faster." 2) D…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:22 AM
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How would you feel if you were on a dating site andmatched with someone that openly admitted to being married but their husband/wife had a kink about them fucking someone else. I've played with this fantasy in my mind before but doubt I'd have the balls to go through with it in real life (if at all it ever happened.) What if they wanted to watch? I don't think I'd manage that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:27 PM
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I would say it's actually a better comparison point because it reveals just how heavy the impact of the internet has been on our social and sexual lives. It also makes a good case study for how bad we are at predicting the impact of technologies. Online dating and social media were hailed as gateways to bigger social networks and an easier, smoother route to a greater choice of partners. Yet here we are, witnessing the rise of Tate and the rest of the manosphere because in large part young men h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:32 PM
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I did, and I still wholeheartedly disagree. I cannot fathom 99% of young single guys managing to have as much sex as they want. even if they put themselves out there and lowered their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:14 PM
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Define toxic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:05 PM
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Very few men are sexless but they make a strong effort to claim and make it look like "the majority of men is affected", to get more people behind their pathetic social justice cause. This is not true where I am....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:37 AM
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So what do you think, has the 'sexlessness epidemic' been overblown after all? I think this varies wildly with location. However, on the whole I do think that modern young people are doing worse than previous generations. Does this qualify to be called a "sexlessness epidemic"? I don't think I would call it that. Also, I think 2011 is to soon a starting point to begin with when people talk about the sex recession. I think they make reference to the 90s and 80s. While I don't have the numbers wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:36 AM
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Tbh, I think that majority of men (like 99%) could get as much sex as they want, Well, that's wildly optimistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:20 AM
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You did fall for them though. Thank heavens you snapped out of it, but still, he managed to be with you for 1.5 years while I'm willing to bet other men that chose not to use such tactics probably didn't even get past a month. It's unfortunate that while it is well known that such tactics aren't good for long term happiness, RP trained guys seem to be better at slipping past women's defences. And that nowadays is where many young men fail. A better example would have been a woman that completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:18 AM
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I had to grow up a bit to learn not to be swayed by guys like this, but I think I’m a better partner now to my current boyfriend than I was to him. I don't think you are giving off the message you think you're giving out here. Are you aware that in your younger years, you may probably have rejected certain guys that refused to swallow the pill and they have gone through life thinking about how they wished they would have swallowed it instead? I suspect this is true of a lot of young women. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:05 AM
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I think most social scientists already know that men are more likely to fudge the numbers upwards while women are more likely to fudge the numbers down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:47 PM
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This will depend on many factors that haven't been disclosed and are . What is the sex ratio where this person is? What are the cultural attitudes towards casual sex? etc. With that said, if we assume a man in a standard western society with a sex ratio that is roughly equal, I'd be very surprised if it was more than twice a month. And that's if he's actually trying. Those numbers can probably be boosted with PUA training or self-improvement, but probably not by much. I'd say a dedicated average…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:43 PM
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Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:25 PM
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So leave women alone. Exactly! This is what is currently happening. You keep acting like it's some god given right to approach women in public but that it's unconscionable that women might not want you to approach them. How so? I am simply defending my first point, (i.e. "Men are terrified to approach") and stating why that is the case. Before and up to 2013, striking up a conversation with a stranger was how people got to know each other. Even with the opposite sex. This is no longer the case b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:42 AM
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That is absolutely fair. Many young men don't want to be a nuisance, especially not to women they might like. Therefore, since it is almost impossible to know beforehand whether a young lady may be open to you or may just think you are bothering her, men have stopped approaching. Q.E.D my first point...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:34 AM
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Your issue is that these women didn't like being approached? My issue is that men no longer know whether or not their approaches will be welcomed or rejected and the reputational cost for finding out has gotten a lot more expensive than in the year 2013. But that's not what you're demonstrating here, since that would be assault. Your examples are a woman yelling at a man to go away (and in return he starts swearing at her) and a woman very rightfully getting pissed that a dude is staring at her …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:28 AM
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That sounds plausible...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:34 PM
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I just posted a journal article and even the person who addressed it typed this; The 'default' sexy finding is that people who consume so much porn lead to observable brain structural changes, particularly in regions associated with reward mechanisms and executive decision making (i.e. deliberative and controlled, less impulse driven). How then can you claim there is "no science to back up an assertion that porn does any damage to the brain whatsoever"? The fact is that we don't know. I also don…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:19 PM
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As someone who saw someone that worked as hard as they could, (i.e. they had 0 social life until final year uni) I can tell you it doesn't always help. This kid spent 3 years looking for a job even when they had a degree in what was supposed to be a safe bet (EEE). It's like experience is the currency nowadays and many young folks are trading nearly everything they have to get it. Including time that may originally have been allocated to dating, sex and relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:01 PM
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I didn't say they'd be cancelled, because that is a little extreme (although, I think it would be possible) but a few women have put some men on blast for approaching them in what they felt was the wrong way. The fact that many people sympathize with the victims doesn't change the fact that just like the woman loudly telling you to fuck off while slapping you at the bar for simply approaching her, it still stings to have to endure it right after it's happened. And that effect can be magnified on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:55 PM
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10 years ago was 2013. Here are some of the things I've noticed After the #metoo movement of the mid 2010s and the fallout from the bad actors that took advantage of this good cause, most men I know are terrified of making a first move. According to them, "no" is now the best thing a disinterested lady can say. The worst? Now social media gives us the power to humiliate people on a larger scale almost instantaneously. Imagine a girl rejecting you loudly in a bar and multiply that by a few thousa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:05 PM
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So in your view, would you say that porn, while not as toxic as some would have us believe, is still not just harmless because even in the second case, excessive porn may be aggravating the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:32 AM
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Well, you can start with these guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:12 AM
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I would argue that 20 years ago dating was about as difficult, risky and stressful as it is now, especially for young men, but men's innate sex drive pushed them to overcome these obstacles. I don't think this is true. 20 years ago online dating was something only nerds did. Now, it has become the default. Unfortunately online dating has led to many issues. Firstly, women have been given the illusion that they have a larger dating pool than they can pragmaticaly do. Also, there's the fact that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:59 PM
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Would you say they don't have a point? Criticism of porn came almost exclusively from religious groups and feminists in the 70s. Now it's becoming more mainstream even in the world of neuroscience and psychology...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:39 PM
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So back to highschool then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:24 AM
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Mystery had a few showstoppers...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:45 PM
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What about attributes that may not be monetary e.g. height?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:53 PM
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That is an interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:46 PM
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Why not, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:45 PM
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Depends on your definition of inferior. If your definition of inferior is a man almost destined to struggle in the dating market, then yes, certain men are inferior. You can't change your height (not safely, anyway) and that seems to be a hard filter for many women. It's still not clear how much of your weight (fat & muscle) you can safely control and improving personality is such an abstract and ambiguous goal it's actually difficult to know how exactly to improve it. You may have more control …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:49 AM
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Yes, I have. Together with its other variants, (i.e. "Just be yourself," "It's just your personality")
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:47 AM
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Apologies, I meant to type, "most men I know." and somehow forgot it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:43 AM
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Women: Will say they want a man who is in touch with his emotions, yet most men who've been open with their women about their vulnerabilities and insecurities report that these women either lose respect or outright weaponize those feelings. However, men that have remained stoic to the point of absurdity report no such things. Will say confidence is the only thing that matters, but exclude confident men if they don't possess other qualities such as height, looks, status or intelligence. Men: Will…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:03 AM
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This right here is what many here don't want to acknowledge. Your personality will either be a benefit or a liability depending on your objectives. If you just want quantity & you're a heterosexual male, many will agree that you must go for status. Whether that be through, money, physical stature, achievement, notoriety or social competence. However, acquiring status through certain modes might be too much of a trade off. For instance, I've seen it mentioned ITT that male serial killers often re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:25 PM
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Damn! How'd I forget the novels and wine?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:46 AM
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No, I don't. Again, I'm relying on stereotypes, but most women I've met "at that level" find the overwhelming majority of men "lacking," especially if she's looking for something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:43 AM
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First things first, don’t ever touch skin bleach. As I said, I'm not bleaching my skin. I figured it would be better for me to suffer in the dating market than deal with constant itching, inflammation or even skin cancer. Have you looked at any of the weight loss subs on here? Yes, I have looked at weight loss subs here and some have been helpful. The issue is, even when I do lose weight, I never get "lean." I always seem to hover on the high side of normal or overweight. Maybe I have a stocky f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:27 AM
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I'm assuming there's not many men that could woo her at that level. Dates may be bi-monthly...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:49 AM
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First, they advised me to bleach my skin. I'm so dark skinned that even my fellow black folks used to make fun of me in highschool. I don't want to do that because of all the nasty side effects it comes with. Second, they advised me to lose weight and get lean. I don't want to do that because after going through starvation diets (i.e. 1 meal of meat and vegetables per day with 1 hour of gym per day) I can't seem to get lean. Heck, even when I had a serious illness that resulted in weightloss, my…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:40 AM
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Facial attractiveness is unfortunately mostly genetics, and for body, keeping thin is nowhere near as difficult as being muscular. Women don't have to be thin. Obesity and anorexia are the only regions women need to stay away from. Chubby girls get a lot of love, especially in their younger years. It's only when women get older and men get taken out of the dating market that women's bargaining power gets diminished and they now can't afford to let themselves go. Being born with an ugly face is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:29 AM
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How about the schedule? How close was I on those?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:52 PM
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I'm on shaky ground now because I'll be forced to rely on stereotypes. I assume she probably has a painting class that she does on weekends, probably goes to a few exotic festivals. Probably does something for her health as well. Probably yoga, hiking or pilates. She's 45 so she's probably not going to concerts. Too many drunk kids and loud music.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:37 PM
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This will vary wildly depending on where she is. A hypothetical would be; At 45, she's probably just getting into senior positions. She probably gets to work at 08:00, does her duty and probably clocks out at 07:00 or 08:00. Probably meets up with her friends for an hour assuming transit times are no issue. Gets to bed at 10:30 or 11:00. Weekends are for her hobbies or catching up on sleep. Yes, she can probably make simple recipes but she's no Ramsay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:25 PM
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Well, if she's happy, I don't see by what metric her life would suck. Financially independent boss babe with hobbies and friends. She's killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:13 PM
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It's bait. What OP wants is to see whether a few men will bring out the threat of her being lonely. We get it OP, men need women thanks to the curse of high libido and women don't need men. At least not in the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:09 PM
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also who pays 3000 to have sex with a woman like what is she doing that is worth 3000? Desperation makes people do strange things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:20 AM
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Money has always been important, but nowadays with our religion, institutions, and overall social fabric in decline, it is more of a factor than ever imo. I'm curious as to how you think religion would allieviate the importance of resources. In countries that are religious, access to resources is almost always the most important of factor for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:18 AM
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As someone that has been called ugly since pre-school, my findings are that even when you approach girls that have been labeled "least attractive," a lot will still refuse because they think it's embarrassing that you are the best they can manage. A lot of women, especially in their younger years, feel that they can do better and perhaps they can. However, a few older women have told me that women will sometimes grow out of it partly because the effect of the hive mind diminishes with age and pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:19 AM
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They usually don't, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:33 AM
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Wasn't this thesis supported by Norah Vincent's experiment living as a man? IIRC, she said women's desires could be kaleidoscopic and sometimes unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:38 PM
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Oh, yeah. Approaching women is becoming a minefield.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:57 AM
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Even that doesn't seem foolproof. There have been instances in which these "signs" have been nothing more than an attempt at kindness by the woman in question. I remember reading a story of a lady that stripped to her undies got in the bed with a guy and then scampered out when he attempted to cuddle her. Why? She just sees him as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:53 AM
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Maybe because you found her beauty so astounding that you thought, "I will curse myself for eternity if I don't get to at least talk to her."? Isn't that not one of the most common tropes of romance movies and novels?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:42 AM
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And we wonder why men aren't courageous anymore. It seems the possible outcomes are now; She may respectfully decline. She may be flattered (given all the female discourse online these days, unlikely.) She may tell you to go to hell, creep. She may put you on blast on tiktok and accuse you for harassing an underage 21 year old. What's a guy supposed to do in the modern world? I think first approach should be given to women now. They have a lot less to lose, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:54 PM
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Everything you see was made by men. I have not disputed that. We can argue about the"everything" but I'll let that go. However, can we discuss what the motivation to build these same things has been? I'm convinced that a large number have been motivated by gaining sustenance, gaining a competitive edge in some "game" or gaining the attention (and possibly, favour) of a mate. Take all 3 away and you can see that motivations to build have rarely been intrinsic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:10 AM
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It's because the patriarchy tells them that their looks are their most important asset. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:16 PM
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Is it a necessity, though? Also, I genuinely don't think they care much about the amount of male virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:13 PM
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The average man's idea of focusing on themself is getting good at their favourite games and getting cheap and easy sex. I think the herbivore men in Japan support this particular claim. With the exception of (maybe) bodybuilding, anything else is usually just a vield attempt to attract female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:51 PM
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That's part of your role as a man. Deal with it. Wow! Imagine saying, "Cooking/Cleaning/Home maintenance is your role as a woman, because that's what men expect," in this day and era.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:44 PM
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Well, we could start with this study that found that even women that were 4'11 had a minimum threshold of 5'7 for men they'd like to have as a first date. Their ideal was 5'11 by the way and this was not based on online dating, so you cannot use the excuse of men fudging their height upwards. Also, there is the fact that men's rejection rates on online dating go from 15% to 50% when a guy's height drops from 5'10 to 5'8. At 5'6, about 75% of men are going to get rejected. So even if you have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 03:36 PM
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Do they, now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:38 PM
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This is demonstrably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:36 PM
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Have you tried sorting by controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:34 PM
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Fair. Testosterone is closely linked to sex drive. However, what of the "emotional support" issue? Given that these women have almost no men around them and seem to get on just fine, is this grounds for us to conclude that women are less likely to need men than vice-versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:53 AM
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Was the majority of it sexual? Or perhaps it was limited to physical and emotional abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:35 AM
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I don’t believe nuns are isolated, they have other nuns around. Perhaps "isolation" was the wrong word to use. Here's what I mean. I do notice a lot of men on this sub and many others make subtle threats to picky women about how they'll probably end up lonely and without emotional support. However, if all women need is emotional support and they are able to get it from women, ala in the case of nuns, is this grounds to conclude that women can handle being without a man more easily than men can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:34 AM
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Perhaps I was unclear. My focus is on sexual abuse. Given that both parties are putting themselves through an indefinite and possibly permanent period of celibacy, a lot of men seem to crack more easily than do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:16 AM
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Nuns aren't female priests- they're female monks. What would the equivalent be? I am unfamiliar with the catholic church's heirarchy. Since they don't ordain women, I thought nuns were the next best comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:08 AM
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with Catholic heirarchy. I thought the highest comparable office a woman could take was nun since they do not ordain female priests.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:05 AM
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very close 'friendships' with their sisters. So can we conclude from this that women are less likely to need any form of emotional support from men for as long as it comes from women? I ask because I have seen men on this sub and many others make vield threats to picky women about how they'll end up alone. If women can get this from their fellow women, ala in a convent, they have no real need for men, not so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:03 AM
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Perhaps I was unclear. My focus is mainly on sexual abuse. I am aware that there is a substantial amount of evidence for physical abuse in nun/sister run institutions but haven't found a lot of evidence of sexual abuse in these institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:56 AM
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Average men can fucking get laid, but they have to self improve in specific areas and adjust their strategy. So average men cannot get laid. Do they not cease to be average, when they "self-improve"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 03:05 PM
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The key word here being "want". The randomness of the universe doesn't always seem to give people what they want (or even deserve, for that matter.) It is for this reason that I say, if older women decide they want to give romantic involvement with men a try, younger men, who are usually just not attractive enough to a lot of their female peers are willing to compromise and date the older women that'll give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:58 PM
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Perhaps you're overestimating just how willing young men are to date older women. Especially if they don't check enough boxes with the women their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:05 PM
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If ladies like Angela White and Lena Paul can be classified as "thin" in your books, then I must say you have a very flexible definition of the word "thin". I was under the impression that only a BMI lower than 21.5 would merit the title of thin. Angela White (BMI = 23), Lena Paul (BMI = 22.1) and Ava Addams (BMI = 22.3) all lie above that threshold as do a few others in the top 30 (e.g. Abella Danger). Kendra Lust (BMI = 20.3) may be the only one I was wrong about. But even if we were to discar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:32 PM
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If ladies like Angela White and Lena Paul can be classified as "thin" in your books, then I must say you have a very flexible definition of the word "thin". I was under the impression that only a BMI lower than 21.5 would merit the title of thin. Angela White (BMI = 23), Lena Paul (BMI = 22.1) and Ava Addams (BMI = 22.3) all lie above that threshold as do a few others in the top 30. Kendra Lust (BMI = 20.3) may be the only one I was wrong about. But even if we were to discard that and use the cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:21 PM
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None of them were chubby, flabby, or overweight I have just scanned through the top 25 most popular female pornstars on PornHub and already I see r/AngelaWhite (#3), r/LenaPaul (#14), r/KendraLust (#22), and r/AvaAddams (#23) who are all on the plumper side. I'm sure if I get to calculating their BMI's a good portion of them would be on the heavier side of Normal. So unless I'm using a different version of PornHub, I think your pre-conceived notions of what men are attracted to is now twisting y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:15 AM
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I don't understand where women get the idea that men like skinny women. Hop onto PornHub, if you have the stomach for it, sort by popularity for the top 100 pornstars. Come back and tell us how many of those ladies are skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:01 AM
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Should the guy instead be unattractive? So can we take this is an admission that men's attractiveness almost always follows the same pattern? Do you watch porn of unattractive people? Yes, yes I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:23 PM
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Women protagonists in romance novels are almost never described in detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:11 PM
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