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I have definitely always been a man lol
/r/MensRights03/01/22 10:49 PM
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Yes it does. You two are asserting that I'm a concern troll. I'm telling you that I'm not. Since you have no actual proof, and your postulations are forwarded on nothing more than the basis of my anti-censorship stance, my simply dismissing it is satisfactory enough. And why would I need to negate anything else in his comment? I think that he was correct in most everything he said. Within our own spaces, there should be no need to tolerate bigotry against us, and I believe it to be abhorrent tha…
/r/MensRights01/01/22 11:43 PM
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Being anti-censorship is not the same as supporting feminism. I have a moderate view in that I understand the majority of people who self-identify as feminists do so because they believe it stands for equality between the sexes, and because of that I do not automatically hate someone who identifies as such. I dislike people based on the conduct of their character, not whatever labels they want to slap on. Feminism as the single largest and most well-funded special interest political lobby in hum…
/r/MensRights01/01/22 11:38 PM
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Beginning to think you're a troll.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:50 PM
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I'm against their censorship agsinst us as well. Let me ask, what are you doing about it? Other than complaining on the internet and calling strangers meek, mind you.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:50 PM
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You are completely misrepresenting me and what I said, you spastic mongoloid zealot. I said that ON THE SURFACE, feminism APPEARS to be an egalitarian ideology. What I mean by that is that your average, everyday person who identifies as a feminist is going to operate under this assumption. There are obviously issues in the overarching feminist ideology and their action. Fuck's sake, I mention the Duluth Model in my OP. is your assumption that I know what the Duluth Model is, but don't know that …
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:46 PM
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It is incredible to me that you are basically saying exactly my point, yet you're upvoted and I'm downvoted into oblivion and called all manner of mean things.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:36 PM
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From a surface level, claiming to be for equality of the sexes seems like a fairly noble and egalitarian goal. The vast majority of everyday people who identify as feminists do so under this assumption. It's the vocal minority spearheading feminist activity that muddies the waters. This is where we get things such as the Duluth Model, male domestic abuse shelters being shut down, manspreading awareness campaigns, and all the other harmful garbage I'm sure you're thinking of. But on an interperso…
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:34 PM
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Mods aren't involved in any of this, to the best of my knowledge. But you're wrong either way.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:30 PM
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My wife is an MRA too, but it's awesome that you people think I only want pussy because I'm anti-censorship. Real towers of intellect.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:28 PM
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Feminism is the single largest special interest political lobby in human history, wtf do you mean there are no elites backing them?
/r/MensRights01/01/22 09:27 PM
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No worries, I was just more or less venting. Thank you for listening.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 04:10 AM
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Thank you. The thing for me is that I'm not from the "other side," I personally identify as an MRA. Hell, I identified as an anti-feminist for years, also. But I've simply adopted more moderate positions as I've grown older and learned more, and evidently this has led to me not being radical enough for the spaces I used to call home.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 04:03 AM
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If I said "Fuck feminists" would you zealots take me a bit more seriously? Honestly. Use one or two words that you don't like or the wrong way and everyone thinks I'm a concern troll. I'm a real human being. Go fuck yourself, and fuck the feminists too.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:11 PM
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Pretty sure I covered that in the main post.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 11:10 PM
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That's quite a leap. Care to give an example?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 09:57 PM
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You're right - my apologies. It's unfair of me to be combative with someone who isn't being that way toward me. It's alarming, for sure. I feel like I've stepped onto a completely different community than the one I became a part of back in 2011. Obviously with anything political the focuses are going to shift over the years, but I feel like a stranger here now.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 08:55 PM
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Well this thread has successfully ostracized me from a community I felt was a part of my identity for over a decade, so yes, I'm feeling pretty shitty and defensive about the whole thing.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 08:33 PM
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Yes, fighting feminists in the way of overturning something like the Duluth Model and censoring a stupid ass sub on reddit are such a departure from one another that it's comical you've shifted the goalposts this far to undermine my credibility.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 08:29 PM
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There's so much you're just wrong about here, specifically when it comes to all of your accusations about me personally. I have never banned or censored anyone. I am not in charge of any online spaces. Even if I were, I am anti-censorship. You claim that most people who claim to be for free speech are just lying, and trying to cover for something. The obvious implication is that this applies to me. It doesn't, and you're just simply wrong in this regard. I don't believe that other groups should …
/r/MensRights31/12/21 08:27 PM
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The kill all men hashtag is explicitly inciting violence and should be shut down. I don't think metoo is particularly harmful until it gets into the realm of false accusations.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 08:19 PM
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My personal belief is that there are issues that are unique to men, and issues that are unique to women, and both merit discussion and solution. I do not believe that men in general oppress women, or even on a legal level. By all accounts, both socially and legally, it appears to me that women are the ones holding most of the cards. From a personal point of view, I find correcting the legal quandary against men to be the first and foremost concern, and in my eyes the central focus of men's right…
/r/MensRights31/12/21 08:17 PM
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She believes in Patriarchy Theory.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 07:35 PM
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I'm an MRA. My (single) mother was a gender studies major before she switched to library sciences. I have a mix of both.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 04:33 AM
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My position is that their censorship is wrong also.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 04:32 AM
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I'm genuinely not.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 01:32 AM
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I guess you'll need to be more specific. Is it because I quit smoking weed?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 12:36 AM
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Wherein lies the issue is that others might disagree, or may not see feminism as an ideology to be fascistic in nature. On the surface, feminism appears to be an egalitarian ideology that seeks equality between men and women. It is the way it is employed that sends up red flags. Every feminist I know in real life seems to genuinely want equality between the sexes, without any of the more fascistic elements that are commonplace in the larger movement's more vocal constituents. Should those decent…
/r/MensRights31/12/21 12:17 AM
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I agree completely. I don't like it when we are censored, which is why I don't want to do it to other people.
/r/MensRights31/12/21 12:11 AM
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What would you recommend to expand the options?
/r/MensRights31/12/21 12:09 AM
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So let me get this straight. I am pro: Closing the unfair sentencing gap between men and women for identical crimes. Default equal custody of children through the court system. Closing the education gap between boys and girls, from grade school a d up into college level. Alimony reform, abolishing legal slavery of men. Overturning the Duluth Model, which unfairly assumes the man is the aggressor in any domestic violence situation. And these are just the examples listed in the post you're respond…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 11:57 PM
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Imprisoning people based on wrongthink is an incredibly authoritative stance. I'm happy you're not the one in control of such matters.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 11:17 PM
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Someone isn't a troll just because they don't agree with you.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 11:15 PM
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Racist speech is allowed in society. You won't be arrested for yelling a slur at Walmart. You will, however, be dismissed by the vast majority of rational people. As a matter of course, most rational people will also dismiss the garbage coming out of FDS as well. The internet is not real life, and the interactions that happen in online spaces like this are not representative of real life. My main concern isn't to appear friendly to the opposite sex. It is to avoid the slippery slope. I am agains…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 08:09 PM
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Successful cultural change is achieved with a scalpel, not a hammer.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 08:02 PM
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I wish you luck on your endless quest to eradicate wrongthink. I'm sure that the censorship you will never reasonably achieve will do well to magically change all of those peoples' minds to something more congruent with your worldview, instead of (much more predictably) spreading these people into other communities and insulating the more hard-core among them into radicalization clusters.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 01:01 PM
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Speech you don't like is not in violation of your rights - to conflate censoring it with what should be the central preoccupation of MRAs is misguided.
/r/MensRights30/12/21 12:54 PM
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But censoring a sub you disagree with is so far down on the totem pole of things that are important to men's rights. My making moves and acquiring successes in the areas and issues that are important to MRAs, there is a cultural shift that will occur. This same cultural shift will further alienate misandrist spaces such as FDS, which will be considered (rightfully so) by even more of the general populous than already thinks so. By focusing on what matters, we make progress in other areas, too. Y…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 12:42 PM
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What other sorts of speech do you believe should be disallowed?
/r/MensRights30/12/21 12:34 PM
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I'm not saying that the two ideologies are equitable. I'm saying that there will be people opposed to either - whether right or wrong, and whether vitriolically or in a misguided attempt to signal virtue - and that trying to shut either down will create more issues than it will solve. There are people out there who 100% believe that MRAs are hateful, bigoted, misogynistic incels, and who militantly oppose us based on these assumptions. They are incorrect, as both you and I know, but from their p…
/r/MensRights30/12/21 12:20 AM
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There are always going to be people in the world who choose hatred and ill-intent over compassion and cooperation. Trying to "shut down" a sub like that is not going to end the problem - it is only going to encourage those people to entrench themselves in further insulated spaces, where becoming even more radicalized is commonplace. We can't control the flow of information, nor should we try. Let people believe what they want to believe. You want people to have the same attitude toward your supp…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 11:10 PM
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That is honestly quite sad. There is something to be gained from being a little harsher on ourselves and holding ourselves to higher standards than we might others - but this has to be done in moderation. If you never cut yourself any slack and never care for yourself, you'll end up basically in an abusive relationship with yourself. You have to occasionally ask yourself, in times where you are beating yourself up over whatever screw-ups you've made or situations you've landed yourself in, if yo…
/r/MensRights05/11/21 12:34 AM
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I agree.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 06:54 PM
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This response is sort of all over the place, so I'm not sure exactly what part of this I should be responding to, but it overall feels like a departure from your original comment and the response you made to it. I think you probably got a lot of dislikes because people disagreed with your explanation of why something was empowering. Whether you like it or not, the vast majority of people find obesity unattractive - and I say this as an obese man. There is a social conditioning aspect to this, su…
/r/MensRights12/10/21 06:34 PM
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Nobody here has said anything about disliking the idea of obese men being supported (or women, for that matter). So your contention that people here dislike the idea of obese men being supported is a strawman argument.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 05:55 PM
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Strawman.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 05:53 PM
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My argument isn't that women aren't the only ones capable of birthing children, or that they don't have an upper hand. What I'm saying is that there are two contributing parties to the process, and there is a distinct inequality in the recourse these parties can take in the instance of a mistake. Furthermore, I am suggesting that there should be something in place to rectify this inequality. You seem intent on boiling down the issue purely to bodily autonomy. While I do believe that this is a pa…
/r/MensRights17/09/21 11:11 PM
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I imagine you wouldn't feel the same way if the situation were somehow reversed, and a man could hold sway over the entire life of a woman for the next two decades on the basis of a single decision she had no control over.
/r/MensRights17/09/21 07:17 PM
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You're still not addressing the double standard. If your argument is that men should be careful who they bed if they don't want to pay child support, then the same should apply to women. Women should not, as you put it, "have an abortion if pregnancy is inconvenient." You don't get to say that women can opt out of 18 years of responsibility on a whim, and a moment later in the same comment assert that guys deserve to be screwed for two decades because of a single mistake. Men should at the very …
/r/MensRights17/09/21 06:55 PM
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Are you actually comparing men as a whole to prison gangs in an effort to cement your point?
/r/MensRights14/02/20 06:15 AM
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I mean, I've almost gotten to the point where I don't want to discuss politics with anyone at all. Saying anything against the modern feminist status quo gets you labeled with all sorts of nasty names and always devolves into long winded arguments that ultimately get nowhere. I can sit there and stick to the facts all I want, whoever I'm talking to just spouts endless rhetoric and refuses to adjust their viewpoint. I'll still vote and pay attention to politics, but why should I get involved in t…
/r/MensRights19/06/19 09:14 PM
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We didn't send women to war because men were seen as disposable in comparison. You have it all backwards.
/r/MensRights07/06/19 12:20 AM
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That could be. The cycle of abuse seems to perpetuate itself that way.
/r/MensRights29/05/19 06:46 PM
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When I really sit down to think about it, this is anecdotally true for me, as well. When I was 5 years old and at daycare, there was a group that was homogenously labeled the "big kids," so kids that were 10 to 11 years old. Well, the biggest of the big kids was a 12 year old girl who, for some reason, wasn't allowed to stay home alone yet. We will call her Susie. This was back in the late 90s and I'm not sure if this was typical of daycares at the time, but us kids that could wipe our own asses…
/r/MensRights29/05/19 05:56 PM
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Male sexuality is sin, obviously.
/r/MensRights27/05/19 11:37 PM
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Whst would be your recommended solution if not abortion? Not shit talking, genuinely curious.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 05:07 PM
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I'll probably get downvoted, but I do believe that abortion is fundamentally different than a man deciding he doesn't want a child.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 12:38 PM
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We have reached screeshotception.
/r/PussyPass01/05/19 08:48 AM
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You know, when I think about it in those terms it kinda makes sense (even if it's totally misguided and still wrong). I guess my knee jerk reaction was to automatically reject any attempts to humanize child molesters.
/r/MensRights30/04/19 08:11 AM
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Holy hell that was tough to read through. It basically paints female offenders as people searching for "pleasure, bliss, and intimacy." Holy hell.
/r/MensRights30/04/19 01:58 AM
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That comment in the middle of the image is upsetting for the same reason I found the interview upsetting. She glosses over the fact that her child died because of her rampant drug use, doesn't even mention she regretted it, and then transitions immediately into how the situation affected her and how she dealt with it. In the comment, they gloss over the fact that a child died because of this woman's shitty life choices and immediately transition into talking about how horrible that must have bee…
/r/PussyPass24/04/19 08:30 PM
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What I find interesting about this is that men, regardless of skin color, see a dip in gender bias in the "neutral" political categorization, whereas both liberal and conservative men have roughly the same gender bias. Women, on the other hand, see a continual rise of gender bias when moving from left to right. Even the lowest metrics of gender bias for women on this graph were higher than the highest mens' metric, though.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 10:47 PM
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There's nothing really wrong with being a conspiracy theorist. I would need to see hard evidence to put all my eggs in this particular basket, but it did make me stop and think for a minute.
/r/MensRights07/04/19 11:03 AM
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The problem is that, without proof, it's just her word. We cant allow malicious murders to go unpunished just because of the word of the murderer. Even if the genders were reversed and a man was controlled and bullied by a dominant woman for 40 years, going to her house and bludgeoning her to death with a hammer would be absolutely inexcusable. Even with proof of her controlling him for decades. Even without the, "If I can't have her, nobody can," quip. And shit, if it was just his word?
/r/MensRights06/04/19 02:30 AM
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It might just be the way you've stylized your text, but you seem angry.
/r/PussyPass20/03/19 06:12 PM
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Signed.
/r/MensRights20/03/19 06:09 PM
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To be fair, I'm not opposed to small funds ($200k is fairly small in the grand scheme of things let's be real) going into initiatives to provide people with necessary toiletries (which I do consider tampons to be). But it should extend to everything. I'd say toilet paper is pretty damn essential, but if they funded that they wouldn't get points for virtue signaling.
/r/PussyPass20/03/19 04:37 PM
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Y'all are wrong. It's 2019 and comic sans font is IN.
/r/MensRights20/03/19 04:31 PM
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This screenshot shows the thread is only 14% upvoted. Wouldn't that imply that they too condemn punching 12 year old boys?
/r/PussyPass15/03/19 10:03 PM
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You probably sit on the libertarian left as opposed to authoritarian left. I'm also a libertarian leftist, but my friends and family would have you believe I've gone to the "dark side/alt right" because I don't wholeheartedly agree with everything that comes out of a feminist's mouth. Pretty sad when what is perceived as the "left" has gone so far left and so far authoritarian that someone like me is seen as an emissary of right wing politics.
/r/MensRights14/02/19 10:02 PM
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What is the point? So women feel safe? What a load of shit. Without even getting into how ridiculously sexist it is to assume men are dangerous predators to the extent that they somehow deserve to be segregated based on nothing more than their gender, this is a huge failure of logistics. "Let's put all women into one space without men so they will be safe!" As though predators will even care about the rules. Now you've just shown predators exactly where to focus their attention, with no good-nat…
/r/MensRights25/12/18 07:21 PM
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I really don't think so. It would probably be framed as the man taking advantage of his attractiveness to lure underage girls. The thing that really makes the difference is that a lot of people don't see sex as a thing that people mutually participate in. Yes, ordinary sex has two people who consent to the interaction, but a lot of people view it simply as a performer vs recipient ordeal. When it's an adult man with an underage girl, it's perceived as the adult doing something to her. When it's …
/r/MensRights21/12/18 10:40 AM
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I completely understand the premise. I'm providing a wider scope to the issue and saying it isn't as black and white as that. I'm not sure how I can be more clear about that.
/r/MensRights18/12/18 12:47 AM
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I'm not saying that it's more important for a woman to be happy. What I'm saying is that we ultimately want more empathy and understanding for men, right? Well, it's a two way street. It's important to find a middle ground where both the man and the woman can be satisfied with the outcome. Demanding our happiness while not giving a shit about theirs makes us no better than feminists who do the same. I did address his point, by the way. If the father is given a free pass, it puts the mother into …
/r/MensRights18/12/18 12:04 AM
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So while I do agree that men should be given more options in cases like this, I don't think it's as black and white as we think. There are some differences between a woman getting an abortion and a man not wanting to have a child. To articulate this, I'll present some of the different possible scenarios. I will leave whether or not the interested parties are actually in a relationship out of the equation to keep it down to brass tacks. Man and woman get pregnant, and both decide to keep it. They…
/r/MensRights17/12/18 11:40 PM
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We appreciate the support.
/r/MensRights06/12/18 06:12 AM
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Not everyone in this sub is a right wing nut. I'm democratic, but I'm painted as a conservative because I want certain parts of the playing field leveled. Because everything that he mentioned above is true to some extent. To answer your question, women having the right to an abortion has always been heralded as a major step forward for the bodily autonomy of women. In what other way are women limited from being allowed to do what they want with their bodies? You've said nothing of value. You hav…
/r/MensRights02/12/18 09:05 PM
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plscalmdown All jokes aside you’re right, nobody is excluded from the possibility of rape, and to suggest otherwise is pretty ignorant.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/18 01:39 AM
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That’s really bizarre. Looks perfectly normal on mine.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 06:57 PM
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I can still see OP’s original text, though.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 05:51 PM
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Why is everyone saying the thread is deleted? I can access it no problem.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 05:33 PM
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I’m a little out of the loop - what policies are being pushed that is creating this controversy?
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:11 PM
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Thank you for the clarification!
/r/MensRights06/09/18 10:18 PM
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I guess I’m confused. Wouldn’t the 53% of workplace fatalities over all US jobs being male indicate that the other 47% is female? How is this possible when all of the most lethal jobs are showing an overwhelming majority of male deaths?
/r/MensRights06/09/18 08:54 PM
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Totally justified, sounds like legitimate self defense to me. Did you ever press charges?
/r/PussyPass27/05/18 06:02 PM
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Sounded like a fucking .22 going off.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/17 08:46 AM
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Would definitely not recommend Ritalin. Source: It fucked me up.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/06/16 12:17 AM
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The problem with that philosophy is that we don't hold women to the same standard. If a woman gets pregnant by mistake, there a abundant resources available to ensure that she can back out if she wants.
/r/MensRights29/05/16 10:03 PM
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It would seem to me that there were a lot of emotions fueling what happened here, and mistakes were made. I'm not saying she was in the right, or justified, or should the punished. I just think she's in a delusional state that is very emotionally fueled, and did something really, really stupid as a result. I feel bad for her state of mind, not the fact that she got punished.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/05/16 04:15 PM
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All I can say about this is I feel sorry for all parties involved.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/05/16 02:30 AM
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Literally laughed
/r/MensRights19/05/16 09:56 PM
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We should honestly just be abolishing the draft. It's slavery, and including women in it doesn't make it any better from a moral standpoint.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/16 04:36 PM
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I would prefer there be no draft, but if there's going to be one, women should do their part.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:57 PM
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Fair analysis.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 10:50 PM
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Right, which is pretty shitty. But I'm referring to whether or not the term "rapist" has become a "gendered-slur" or not here.
/r/MensRights02/05/16 07:39 PM
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Check this out. "The lawsuit makes some claims that are likely to invite feminist derision and raise eyebrows in the legal community—for instance, that calling a (presumptively) innocent man a rapist is a “gendered slur,” since the term is almost exclusively directed at males and evokes the stereotype of male sexual brutishness." Kind of an interesting take on this. I'm not sure if there's a legitimate point being made or not. On the one hand, feminism's anti-male campaign really has shifted pub…
/r/MensRights02/05/16 07:06 PM
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The two rules are as follows. Never, ever hit a lady. A lady never raises her fist to strike you
/r/MensRights01/05/16 08:50 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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