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Furthermore, only about 20% of relationships are formed through OLD where 80% are not Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:22 AM
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Why do you find it repulsive though? You can't possibly pretend that one can justify repulse? Like how do you justify that you find shit repulsive? What logical argument can you give for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:35 PM
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Chad puts effort into seducing women too, he just doesn't brag about it to his boys because it isn't cool Lol, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:40 AM
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However these are the majority of men online Again, do you have any evidence for your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:49 AM
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Honestly it's not, it's often the less "attractive" guys Do you have evidence for this? I think you're just biased. Studies show that people tend to automatically associate the same traits more negatively for individuals that they find less physically attractive. So it is likely that you just subconsciously classify less attractive men more harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:47 AM
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Or maybe women find partners quicker than men, so they leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:42 AM
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Most men struggle to even get matches and you're here taking about how men should interact with women online. They don't even get their foot on the door. Most men won't even get to the stages you're talking about. Also while the things you said might (I disagree that they do because you clearly speak as a woman and probably never dated / tried to date women) work, their importance is secondary to looks and height. Just make a profile with a 5'6'' and 6' guy (same everything) and the 6' guy will …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:41 AM
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Call me crazy, but maybe, just maybe, men are having less sex because we have better things to do? This is the furthest thing from the truth. Most men want sex very much, but can't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:28 AM
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Maybe an idea for men going forward is to help normalise these things amongst other men instead of blackpill defeatism and misogynistic attempts to control women. "Men" cannot do this because it is something beyond the control of individuals. To enforce a societal change like heels, there needs to be a huge social pressure/trend that will last for decades. Supposing some individuals manage to create such movement, its effects will be observed in decades to come. From an individual perspective th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:36 AM
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What is stopping you normalising it? If a man started wearing them, he would be ridiculed. He won't help normalising them. Societal conventions cannot be changed by shear will, they are built over time by factors beyond the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:14 AM
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High heels is a great example of how women transcend those put on height They do it because it's socially acceptable. For men it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:03 AM
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Just because it won’t fix all of your shortcomings doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it I agree with this. You should always improve yourself, but when it comes to heterosexual dating as a guy there are some battles you just cannot win no matter what. A fit short person is more desirable than a shlubby short person. Sure, but I think height for women is often a qualifier so if you don't a certain threshold you'll never be attractive and hot to them, even if you check other boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:03 AM
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The top 20% of men put 100 times more effort into looking good than women. Perhaps, but they also have the genetics to be in top 20%. Otherwise, they wouldn't be top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:49 PM
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They cry about "immutable" characteristics but most women have them too Women are far more likely to discriminate on immutable features though. The height example is quite clear, we literally scientific studies the influence of an immutable feature like height. No other immutable feature in heterosexual dating come even close. They have no idea how much of our teens we spend learning shit like this. Most of the pressure is created by other women on other women. And also you're talking about some…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:48 PM
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they give an over the top reaction like “well that won’t fix height How's that an over the top reaction? It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:43 PM
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Most men aren't getting ANYTHING from women they're attracted to. Most women eventually marry these guys, settling and leading to unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:40 PM
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But don't they say exactly the same thing you just wrote? That there is no possibility of improving their fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:35 PM
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A 5'5'' guy can loose all the weight he wants, but he would still be widely unsuccessful with women regardless of what he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:32 PM
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I don't know, I would never want to be with a girl who thinks I'm not physically attractive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:21 PM
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I have, IRL interactions, sometimes found that attraction can grow when a person is great in other ways. Yeah OK, but honestly if when you saw them you didn't find the physically attractive then you shouldn't be dating them. As a woman, you have a plenty of choice too so not sure why would you settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:36 AM
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Should Women be forced to date someone they are not interested in? no Why do people like to invent things that were never said? Or did you not read what I said? I know online dating is more difficult for men In the modern world, dating is mostly online. I do not see any possibility of improving their fate here. Sure, fine. So you agree with what men are saying here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:32 AM
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I agree, it's a kind of a shitty thing to do going for someone you think is ugly. What I don't like though is the gaslighting and virtue signalling that so many women do because they have no clue of dating as guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:56 AM
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This makes it not worth it to give less attractive men Why would you go for a guy who is not attractive to you? Go for guys you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:35 AM
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Race is a huge influencing factor for dating as a guy (for black women as well it seems, but personally all the black girls I've met only want to date black guys so not sure about that). But honestly, I'm glad that at least it's not socially acceptable to shit about people's race so most women keep race standards to themselves (this situation IMO is far better compared to things like height).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:34 AM
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You really think that they'll date a wider variety of women? I know that they'll have sex with a wider variety, but that's something different. Yes they would. Most men don't strict physical requirements, but I would argue that women do. The argument that men would only fuck them is incorrect. While men have higher requirements for relationships than sex, the difference is not big at all. I've seen women I met irl having incredibly high requirements when dating (e.g. must be over 6'2'', High sal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:21 AM
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No moron, if women want men in a society that’s only 5’11” than that’s what should happen. I rest my case. You're without hope. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:34 PM
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So essentially you think 90% of men in India, China, Indonesia, and other countries serve no purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:29 PM
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So no I don’t see the problem🤷🏼‍♀️ That's because you have the iq of a pig. If you got rid of short men, then you'd shift the average height. Women say 5'11'' because it's above average not because they like the number 5'11''.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:27 PM
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Across the world - more than 50% of participants are female You can't say that something that is 50% male and female is "primarily female" because 0.24% is statistically insignificant. That's like saying the world is primarily male because they are more men than women. It's just ridiculous. , and there’s a dramatically bigger gap in western nations The gap is indeed bigger (this was surprising BTW so thanks for the link), but this those aren't number that scream to me "primary female". Also the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:40 PM
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Interesting, but doesn't back up your claim of "endurance running is primarily female". Your own sources mentions that the split is 50/50. In the US, the split being 60/40 doesn't make it "primarily female" either. An example of what would be gender dominated would be football. Nonetheless, it seems that location plays an important in the ratio for running.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:23 PM
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Eye colour and hair colour are irrelevant though, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:34 AM
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This is nonsense, by that logic most Asian women would be unattractive which is not the case at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:16 AM
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Endurance running is primarily female. You can Google it I've never said it wasn't. But do you have a source for this? Because I couldn't find anything about participation rate based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:14 AM
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They are not just "harder", they are basically impossible as a large part of women's requirements are based on genetic factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:50 AM
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But they do consider it a negative. Most women want guys who are above average height. The ideal beauty standard for men that most women impose is to be taller than the average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:48 AM
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If you're not genetically lucky the only way to get one is surgery Not true, studies (I remember seeing one from the NHS) show that a large percentage (I think nearly half of I remember correctly) of waist to hip ratio is to due diet and lifestyle. Not to mention, that I never met a guy who had boob size requirements, waist size requirements or hip size requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:45 AM
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If you have a really good looking guy but he’s “only” 5’10 What if he 5'6''? There is a HUGE difference between being slightly above average and a few inches below average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:42 AM
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It's harder to be hot if you have the wrong hair and eye color. You're just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:40 AM
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I don’t know, if you join a running group, it’s mostly women. All the running groups at my uni and the last three I was in were prevalently male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:37 AM
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I got laid a lot in college and I'm a quiet dude that gets uncomfortable at large social gatherings. I don't have "game", I'm just myself, people either like it or they don't, if they don't then they weren't right for me anyways. That's because you're 6'4''
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:10 AM
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I once found myself attracted to a friend shorter than me (I’m 5’1), chubby, nice face but not gorgeous, because he was so fun to be around. Intelligent, witty, talented, nice, friendly. His longtime girlfriend is 5’9. Exceptions (especially extremely rare ones) don't negate the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:06 AM
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Tbf this happens on Reddit, in real life women are quite honest and almost ruthless about what they want (although they completely have no clue about what it's like to date as a guy). Though, they still lie if they need to virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:04 AM
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Most women will no even consider dating you if you're not above a certain height. You'd have a point if the women required men to be simply taller than them (e.g. Half a inch taller), but that's not the case. Most women require the guy to several inches taller than them and usually prefer them to be above average height. Yes, a shorter man may have to compensate for his height but most would agree that a shorter man who is more facially attractive or has better social skills/standing would likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:49 PM
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It is largely relative to the height that the woman is. This is true to an extent. However, short women often do not want short guys and have the same requirements as the talller ones (studies on height show that the shorter a woman is the larger is the minimum height difference for her desired partners tend to be). Even assuming you're right though (I think you're only half right), most women, even short ones, still prefer the guy to be tall and might a date a guy despite height, but he always …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:48 AM
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I’m only 5ft myself and have dated a guy who was 5’7 before. That's still 7 inches taller than you and it's one guy (plus the fact thhat this is completely anectodal). Not sure how this helps your point. Also most women are picky about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:27 AM
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Women will still be interested in a guy if he ticks other boxes but isn’t tall same as men will still date a woman with smaller hips or a larger waist than ideal. Except this isn't really true. Women's height requirements are far stricter than men's preference for waist size (BTW what men are attracted to is waist to hip ratio and studies show that it is something influenced by diet and thus can can be changed). I've never met in my life a guy who had waist size requirements, ass size requiremen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:22 AM
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Expecting sex from people who just want to be friends makes everyone uncomfortable, and you a bad person. There is nothing wrong with expecting sex, there is no moral judgement in it. What would be wrong is demanding sex. And what you said sounds incely. Ah yes, of course. and you a bad person Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:47 AM
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Okay well it’s still a shitty thing to expect from someone who gave you no indication you’d receive it. No it's not. What you just said is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:38 AM
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I don't go to clubs as I'm a minor, first of all. You shouldn't be hanging around here then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:31 AM
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they feel they’re owed something deeper than an ear to listen to them as well. And this is where you're wrong. The correct way to frame this would be they expect something deeper than an ear to listen to them as well. As an example, a wife expects her husband to love her but she doesn't demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:26 AM
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A lot of them think that they're entitled to sex What makes you think this? Like what exactly do people say to make you think that? You mentioned this many times, but I don't see any men claiming that women should be forced to have sex with them. I think you're confusing (perhaps deliberately) expectations with demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:22 AM
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“I was nice to this woman but she only wanted to be friends and not have sex, she owes me” Yeah but this is just purposful twisting. What people say is usually: “I was nice to this woman but she only wanted to be friends and not have sex The last part is just a product of bias and deliberate misinterpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:21 AM
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While I agree with what your wrote, what does your comment have anything to do with the comment you replied to???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:18 AM
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I think he means that women can have varied types, but they still choose those types within a small subset of men. For example, the majority of women want tall men, men with a penis that is not below average size, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:13 AM
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Womens preferences might vary once you narrow it down to the subset of men that are over 6ft tall with broad shoulders, full heads of hair and good facial symmetry. However I don't think they ever prefer anything outside that subset. Yes this is the truth. Like I have never in my life heard a woman be like "omg he is so short!", but I've heard variations of "omg he is so tall" countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:11 AM
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Depends on how tall he is tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:19 AM
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My 6'3'' friend has no hobbies, his only hobby is the gym and he's got girls throwing themselves at him. I remember once I was in bar with him and a girl came up to us and bought him a drink (they dated for a few weeks). Like, I was kind of shocked that even happened to guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:16 AM
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Here is an example (I have seen many others) https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/faqcvj/do_we_even_need_men_assoc_dean_of_university_of/ To quote one comment in that thread: If males can only exist as parasites- and they do- the logical, reasonable thing to do is to limit their existence. They are weak, burden society, and slaves to violent impulses. The question isnt whether we should move forward without them. We can only move forward without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:11 AM
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Most of these seems hyperbolic Maybe you should go there now often then, but believe what you want. Most people would disagree. TRP is basically the same but for women… You literally just said that TRP is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:23 AM
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Because they continuously belittle and objectify men, argue for "women's superiority", argue that overwhelming majority men are sex crazed objects who would murder and rape if they could, argue that a man is intrinsically guilty before innocent, use incendiary language to demean men like "scrote", "manlet", etcc...... I could write pages about why they're hateful, but honestly the fact that you're even attempting to argue otherwise is beyond belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:47 AM
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FDS community wants the genocide of all men, do you? I don't know what the fuck they believe tbh, but your brushing off as they are just "annoying" is ridiculous. They are a very hateful community.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:18 AM
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There are literally threads on FDS where they advocate that men should be wiped out of existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:01 AM
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This sub is full of married women in their 30s 40s who love to virtue signal and for some weird reason like hang in a place with mostly young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 12:48 AM
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If you ask each of those women what that means they wont give you the same answer I'm pretty sure that when they say tall, they all mean the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:13 PM
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Yep. I think most women are the same. Looks aren’t the most important thing. Most women have height requirements that are much higher than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:33 AM
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I'm around 6 foot so within 2 inches of that. But that's perfectly consistent with what people say though. That most women want tall men regardless of their height. You're literally discarding more than 60-70% of the population on height alone and that's exactly what studies show as well. Your type is literally the typical tall, dark and handsome that most women are after.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:26 AM
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bro you’re not going to have a problem with women. Not if you're physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:45 PM
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They just dont admit it being better Because their standard for "better" is way higher than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:44 PM
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In my social circle, the women are fucking and dating guys regularly, while the guys not so much despite putting much more effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:33 PM
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Agreed. Not exactly sure why people are so stuck up on this idea that the dating world is equally challenging /easy for everyone. They act like there is some invisible entity that ensure this is the case. Why is it so hard to understand that certain groups of people will have it fundamentally harder than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:48 AM
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Women should not be pressured, guilted Sure, absolutely. Women should not be pressured, guilted, judged That's the stupid part. People are free to have an opinion and express their opinions freely. If you don't like them, ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:44 PM
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I mean I’ve seen women and blue-pillers on here openly stating that height and hairline and involuntary physical attraction to similar such physical characteristics doesn’t exist for women as “all women are different” and “women aren’t a hive mind” and so on. Yeah, this is the issue here. The virtue signalling and gaslighting is just fucking annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:39 PM
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Most women would totally agree with that statement. I disagree heavily. The women here always argue against that viewpoint. What they don't agree with is using that fact to justify anger towards all women. I disagree with this too. From what I see is that women here criticise factual claims like 80/20 rule (I'm not arguing that those factual claims are true or false) because they think saying implies that men are angry and hate women, despite there not being any connection between those claims. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:17 PM
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It's ok to want sex, it's not ok to blame women as a whole gender when you don't get it, or act like you're somehow owed it. I agree that no individual should be blamed. But I think many women here (I would say deliberately) misinterpret, people's intentions. Like as an example, when a guy says that only certain types of men get consisten casual sex, there are always so many women that somehow translate this into "you're not entitled to sex" even though there is no connection between the two sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:58 PM
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Yeah exactly, people really ask some dumb questions sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:04 PM
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I'm a woman and I think of sex as a need. Not one I can demand out of others but one I'm aware of. Sex is important to my mental and physical health. You're one of the few women on this sub that has a healthy take on this. The amount of times I've seen women here saying shit like "entitlement" or "you don't deserve sex" is disappointing and annoying as fuck. No man, other than psychopaths, want to force women or forcefully demand women to have sex with them. Your view on this perfectly summarise…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:59 AM
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If it's that easy then there wouldn't have been an obesity problem of that magnitude in the first place, but here we are. It's certainly true that on a collective level, obesity is a huge problem and hard to come by. I agree with this. At an individual level, not being fat requires minimal effort though and the major obstacle is lazyness. To give you an example, it is certainly true that it's extremely hard to enforce a culture where everyone washes their hands before and after every meal (which…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:56 PM
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It just means you have exceptional mental fortitude and willpower. It doesn't require exceptional will power at all. This is the point. Acting like not being fat is like doing a PhD is just stupid. The effort required to be a healthy weight is basically the same as dressing well or putting on makeup. You're just trying to justify being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:34 PM
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In theory but not in practice, No, it's also very attainable in practice. It's a very realistic goal. Arguing that something is not attainable because people are lazy doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:02 PM
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hyper-masculine man who rejects fatties shows up Not sure what rejecting fat people has do with unattainable beauty standards. Not being fat is very attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:24 AM
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especially through a government subsidy providing 1-2 escort visits per month This part is just fucked up. Government should not actively interfere with the sex lives of individuals. Sex is not an activity like playing tennis. It cannot be treated the same. I agree with legalising and what you said about mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:54 PM
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But females don't get aroused like this I know plenty of women who have casual sex with guys they met in clubs and dating apps. Their criteria for having sex with them is how good looking they are. You comparison of sexual orientation being a deal breaker to this is just dumb as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:49 AM
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Nobody believes they are going to be the chosen one because of fiction You just demolished your entire argument. First you say Disney pushes red pill as if it has some kind of relevance and now you're saying that what Disney promotes doesn't matter? Make up your mind, either Disney does have an influence on people's thinking or it doesn't. And BTW even most feminists argue that it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:05 AM
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Yeah exactly. Finding casual sees or lovers is already difficult as a single man, far tougher being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:01 AM
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Men find it easier to find lovers, but harder to get one-night stands or just sex Lol, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:33 PM
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. This idea that Chad is on order is false Online dating solves this quite easily for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:30 PM
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The unattractive female half of the couple just wants permission to fuck hot guys every now and then. The unattractive male half of the couple puts up with this because he has no choice. Exactly, open relationships are much better for women because they have basically an unlimited supply of dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:28 PM
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So can you. You can go on Grindr and post and a bunch of guys will want to fuck you. Oh yeah, that probably wouldnt be a huge turn on for you. That's a fucking dumb comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:25 PM
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Yes, women do this as well. They believe that achieving the toned body type is so easy, you just need to "work out". Honestly, achieving the ideal make body type is much harder than achieving the female counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:57 AM
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They only go for the top 5 percent of men because those are the only men they're truly attracted to. The fact that that limits their dating pool isn't going to make the average man more desirable to them Yep, especially in their younger years women have si many options that they can be very picky and still find plenty of partners to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:37 PM
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What a minority of women into casual sex want is not the same thing as what most women want. When you’re talking about women into casual sex you’re talking about 20% of women. Do you have any evidence that the overwhelming majority of women don't engage in casual sex? Or are you saying that just because you don't engage in it? From my experience most young women have a significant amount of casual hookups. I’m talking about LTR what women desire varies broadly. Physical attractiveness is VERY im…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:29 PM
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Must be in living in a different world then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:24 PM
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You’re treating an average difference in height like a minimum requirement which is silly. The min is below the average just like the max is above the average. Except no one said that. What I said is that women interested in a 5'6'' would be around 5 feet. Thus there is a going to be a huge percentage of women that won't date him. Actually, since you mentioned statistics there are studies that show that the minimum required difference in height by women increases as the height of a woman decreas…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:23 PM
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I see an average height difference between couples was found to be 5.6’’ This sort of proves my point though. At 5'6'' you're dating pool is tiny considering most women who will be interested in you will be 5.6'' inches shorter than you, i.e. 5'0''. Which means that the majority of women will discard you because of your height. More men want casual sex than women do. This causes the disparity. Sure, but even then casual sex is MUCH easier for attractive men than average/ugly men. Women are very …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:56 AM
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Preferences can vary quite a bit among women. When it comes to height not so much. Most women want tall men. It makes more sense for describing who gets the most casual sex Casual sex is a very good measure of the attractiveness of a man. Only the most attractive men regularly get laid outside of committed relationship. For women, the story is different. 99% of women can have regular casual sex whenever they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:48 AM
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Where did I say you aren't allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:44 AM
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take away Zac Efron's fame and he's still be pulling hot chicks at his college He is average height (1.75m). A short guy can get into relationships with less attractive women, but he will never have women rating him the same way as for tall men. if you ever go outside you can see that facially handsome shorter men do just since I hardly ever see short guys with attractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:35 AM
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You mean you want someone white?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:27 AM
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Messages matter very little. What matter most is height, race and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:19 AM
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They’ve ranged in height from 5’6 to 6’5. You can't be in the top 20% if you're below average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:15 AM
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of european descent What does this have to do with how attractive you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:14 AM
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Women choose to be sexless. Getting sex as a woman is super easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:12 AM
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Dating apps are the real world. Online dating is the most common way to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:13 PM
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I mean yes. Women finally have full freedom in the West. Before this, women fundamentally settled for their men for reasons out of their control. Online dating makes this even better for them, because now their dating pool became even larger, so they are even more picky than what they would otherwise be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:02 AM
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Most men can get casual sex and can rack up a high N. Lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 02:53 PM
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And how is that different from the millions who still listen to Joe Rogan after he laughed about sexually harassing comedians? lol Show me this alleged video. I'm still waiting for you to give proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:14 AM
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It's not about the chick doing something horrible. Gosh, either you're just thick or you're deliberately trying to get away from the point. The point is the reaction of the audience and the fact that a mainstream TV show watched by millions of people is giving a platform for women who are literally endorsing and encouraging the genital mutilation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 10:00 PM
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Show me because I never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:56 PM
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OP literally linked a clip where women are making fun of a guy who had his genitals mutilated (with the entire audience clapping and laughing). If you can't agree with him on whether that's misandry, not sure what to tell you. Can you seriously imagine a male talk show doing the same thing? Can you give an example of something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:20 PM
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Fucking hell that link about the woman cutting the guy's genitals is disgusting. I cannot even imagine the outlash if the gender roles were reversed. Like seriously wtf? And it's on TV with the entire audience laughing and clapping? That's just fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:17 PM
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But looks are subjective. Except that's not the case. But you probably mean is that we can never make an absolute claim about what an individual finds attractive. However, general patterns exist and in this age and time they are not too hard spot on (e.g. most women want tall men rather than short men).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:21 PM
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That i have to be atleast 6 feet tall or all girls will be unattracted. No one said that. Stop deliberately misinterpreting. What I said is that there are many women who literally discard 85% of men because of their height alone, I can't really find anything analogous for what men select for. in the real world im pretty average Exactly, you're at a height where, although many women will not date you because of it, you still have a decent shot as long you have everything else on point. Average he…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:07 PM
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If you think a large percentage of men would unironically refuse to have sex with a woman because her boobs were too small or she had the wrong eye color... Yes, this is fundamentally the issue. The relevance of boob size, ass size, etc... can't be compared to the relevance of height in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:30 AM
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it's ok when men do it but not women? 😉 Irrelevant because I already told you that's a completely different topic. As fo "men do it too", that again shows me you haven't read my answer. Can you show me statistics that show the influence of the features that men select for is the same as height?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:24 AM
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I'm not questioning whether it's okay. Why do people think that matters? My point is fundamentally different: in heterosexual dating the influence of height (in terms of immutable physical features) is unmatched. Whether that's fair or not, is an entirely different topic. In other words, height is a source of asymmetry because there isn't quite something like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:41 AM
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Please show me statistics pointing out that the influence of those features are the same as height.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:38 AM
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I'll throw one piece of evidence : height requirements. Others can refute the rest (quite easy to do tbh). Can you show me that there is anything like height in heterosexual dating that has the same influence? There are women out there who literally discard 85% of men based on an immutable feature and they are still able to date successfully, can you show me something similar with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:28 PM
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because believing the solution to “I can’t get a date” is “women should have less power so they’re forced to date me” Lol where the fuck did you pull that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:43 PM
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Because they’re trying to follow their parents advice Lol, this actually made me chuckle. You have no clue of what is it like to be as an ethnic minority in the West. It is obvious that you you didn't grow up with any Asian/brown guys around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:08 PM
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Most women aren’t even on Tinder Tinder is not the only platform for online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:19 PM
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So? There's no "so"? All I said was women's choices in dating when it comes to height are highly discriminating. That's all. Take that as you wish. How many men do you think a woman can date in her lifetime? Dating close to your age eliminates 97% of the population (a quick google tells me that 20-24 yos are 2.8% of the population. You can't possibly compare age to height. First because age preferences don't (usually) have a gender bias. But most importantly, age is NOT like height. Do you under…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:24 PM
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But it's not. You need understand the difference between mean average and average. Also height is just one of the many traits an individual possess, so it doesn't define whether you're average or not. The actual expectation has to calculated with standard deviations and that would be probably 2-7 inches difference (this is a guess but hope you get the idea). Also the expectation of 5 inches taller is "difficult" because for example in your case you would discarding 50% of men based on height alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:13 AM
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First of all those are minimum requirements. In general women would still have preference for taller men. Also as the other commenter pointed out the shorter the woman is, the higher the required difference in height becomes (and for tall women this differences get smaller). Studies show this too. Also recall that the number you've given refer to the mean average, thus basically as a 5'9'', around 50% of women (average and below) will not date because of your height alone, without accounting oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:38 PM
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Yep, but apparently women who think that every other chick is also a nun surely seem to be on Reddit a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:21 PM
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Not sure what does that have to do with my comment, but good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:20 PM
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I mean sure, but online dating is the most common way of finding partners. It's a fundamental part of the current dating dynamics. This doesn't mean men should only date online, but the point is that women (on Reddit) continuously refuse to acknowledge that online dating is extremely relevant and saying that it doesn't represent reality is nonsense. It's not 65/35 men to women everywhere I just told you that the ratio is not as relevant as you think because it doesn't justify the statistics abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:19 PM
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But numbers match real life dating too (e.g. Stats on speed dating). Also the ratio for the genders on Tinder and other still cannot account for the (too great of a ) difference in the number of matches, in the chances of a match leading to a relationship, etc... Furthermore, have you thought that perhaps the number of women is less because... they find partners easier and thus stop using the apps much more frequently than men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:02 PM
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Because men want to feel desired and sexually appealing to their wives. Not sure how this doesn't register with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:51 PM
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even if she doesn't desire you the way you wished, she'll respect you, and quite frankly what's the difference? A dutiful wife is a dutiful wife. Yeah...no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:47 PM
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We don't use dating apps because we are mostly taken lol. This is something I don't get tbh, why are women on a sub about dating if they are not dating or interested in dating. I guess we all have our hobbies. I met my man on a dating app though. Yet most women here profess that men should abstain from dating apps as they're not "real life" and dismiss any stats about online dating as meaningless because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:41 PM
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Ye that's bullshit. A 5'6 man will be taller than a 5'2 woman I heels. But he's definitely too short for her You're somewhat right. Shorter women want a bigger height difference (studies also confirm this). However, for most women being 4-5 inches taller is the minimum requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:33 PM
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The women here seems to be nuns who don't hookup and don't use dating apps. Irl most women I know use them and have no problem with causal hookups (though they are fundamentally clueless about what it is it like to be a guy on these apps).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:34 PM
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shorter than 6ft Shorter than 6ft could be anything. There is a huge difference between 5'6'' and 5'10''. I personally never see short guys my age with attractive women (or just women tbh).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:30 PM
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Yeah the height thing is HUGE irl. I cannot recall the last time a girl didn't mention when talking about physical preferences for their partner. Also the standard usually is "taller than me in heels" rather than taller than me. You can literally try it out on dating apps, just make a profile and put a below average height and then try with an above average height. You'll get quite a lot more matches just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:24 PM
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I think quite a lot of women here are married. Yep, don't know what they are doing here tbh. Their viewpoint on dating is just outdated. he's so different from an average male PPD user. The Internet brings out the worse in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:19 PM
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The advice women give on reddit is so fucking useless. They assume that men be struggling because a lack of hygiene or care (which is so fucking insulting if you ask me) or stuff that boils down to "try to be more social".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:15 PM
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So you literally just agreed with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:59 PM
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TIL Harvard grads don't fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:08 AM
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He will be on the market if he wants to fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:57 AM
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How would she know about the red flags lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:10 AM
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A LOT of Harvard-educated women would date intelligent, funny, kind carpenters. You're delusional. They might fuck him if he is tall and handsome, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:08 AM
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its that YOU are online. What kind of point is that??? Men are online because women are online. Everyone is online. It's the most common form of dating in 2021.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:52 PM
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I have sex with women I contact online regularly, casual sex is literally as in it fits the definition of hobby, a hobby of mine. Great. Now how does that imply that men struggle with casual sex? Do you understand that we are talking about men and not you? It is harder now, because your competitors are much greater in number due to online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:27 PM
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What do you think the casual sex market was like prior? Not online. That's the difference. You're completely out of touch with our times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:03 PM
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Newsflash - Average men have always had to struggle with casual sex. This doesn't address the point though, which is that online dating has made things (much) harder. Why do people struggle to understand this? Like do you seriously believe that something as revolutionary as the Internet had minimal impact on our personal lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:39 PM
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What's the average for 20-30? There's an ocean between people dating in their 20s and their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:57 AM
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Told you already that you have factor age into account. So that stat is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:10 AM
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It's not even 20%. They are looking for a minority of women often not being in the equal minority of men. Except they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:59 PM
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Because most people date within their own age. The most active period (and best for most people) is 20-30 where the percentage is much lower. A 25 year old is not going to date a 50 years woman or vice versa. So men in that range aren't aiming for top 10% of females like you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:54 PM
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Those statistics do not take age into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:49 PM
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Those statistics are for all ages. The numbers for obesity in the 20-30 age range, which is the most active period for dating to most people, are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:48 PM
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Yeah I mean online dating is the most common way of meeting people. Telling people to stay off it, it is just telling them to stay out of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:02 PM
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Do you understand what "evidence for" means? If a detective finds a clue that is evidence for a hypothesis, it doesn't mean the hypothesis is true. You are confusing my statement for correlation is causation. But more generally, causations in empirical science are always correlations (even Hume knew this).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:59 PM
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This is why we need better stats education Lol, reasoning like yours is why we need better stats education. Correlation is strong evidence for causation unless there are reasons to believe that such correlation is purely coincidental. I repeat myself again, science is entirely about correlations. The "causation" is always a a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:49 PM
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that correlation doesn’t equal causation Why do people say crap like this? It sounds like high school kids trying to say a popular phrase they learned in their first bio class. Correlation is not equal to causation, but it is very strong evidence for causation. And if you want to actually be more correct, you never really observe causation in science but only correlations. What we usually mean by causation is... an interpretation of a strong correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:53 AM
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Ngl some of the points you made in the comments of this thread are quite nonsensical at best and you sound very driven by your "narrative" rather than actually well thought points. Anyway, I do think that you raise some good points. I agree that "true" female sexuality is no being seen in our society more than ever and I also agree with the fact that men are inevitably being affected by this. However, how is your point any different than what the blackpillers are saying? Don't they also say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:08 PM
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Yet the overwhelming majority of the audience who watched those movies are... women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:50 PM
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The lack of self awareness in your thoughts is astounding. You talk about female artists representing what "really" want and then say stuff like: doesn't mean they universally want more of it with more partners. Have you even heard the music produced by current pop artists??? It's literally only about that. Having a lot of sex with different partners and bragging about their sexual conquests (exactly like male rappers do). The current female music scene is just a (arguably much worse) copy of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:47 PM
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Female singers singing about sex the way we enjoy it. Lol, you must be kidding right? Female singers are literally doing what male artists have been doing, aka objectifying men's bodies and talk about trashy sexual explicit content under the disguise of "feminism". It is pure hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:44 PM
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Yes, they matter, but luckily for men, an abundance of other factors have an even greater influence. Not in the modern dating world. Online dating has changed everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:10 PM
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Style choices are secondary when it comes to what women are attracted to. Height, social status and natural looks are far more important. So style choices will have minimal impact, if a guy is already tall and handsome he will successful otherwise he will struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:09 PM
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Very illuminating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:26 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:22 PM
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How about "hello.. You look hot, I would like to get to know you"? That is the appropriate comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:19 PM
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Not self contradicting oneself is too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:36 AM
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But the majority of sexist people often trick people into thinking they’re not when they are. Exactly, so you're point about virginity being a sign of outward sexism is crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:35 AM
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Didn't know that you had to let people know you're sexist to be sexist. The biggest predictor of whether you're going to be a virgin as a man is height and looks, not whether you're sexist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:32 AM
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severally sexist, This is just nonsense crap. Plenty of sexist and racist, tall and classically handsome men have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:29 AM
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What's your height?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:16 PM
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So having a conversation is effort??? Gosh, talking to you is just pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:18 PM
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There is unequal effort though. The guy asked her out and he put himself in a situation where he could be rejected. He approached her and initiated the romantic interest, and organised their first dates. I assume that they got to know each other a bit and then decided to date Not sure what you mean. They dated (aka went on dates) immediately after that. As a guy, you can't just walk into a completely new social situation and expect a girl to initiate and ask you out. This only happen to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:58 AM
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Average + 6'2'' = above average in the eyes of 99% women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:59 PM
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What do you look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:54 PM
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How many women are getting anywhere in dating by simply existing? Too many I'd say. I'll give you an example, around 9 months ago I invited a girl friend of mine to one of the hiking group I've been participating for a a couple of years. My friend is nothing special, slightly overweight and average brown girl. Anyway, she came to one event and a guy invited her for drinks and she dated him for 6 months. That kind of stuff would NEVER happen to an average guy. I've been in that group for years an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:49 PM
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I think the point is made in regards to women complaining about not finding commitment and then complain about it. The idea is that this happens because they aim at a small percentage of the male population. Thus men are "advocating" that women are choosing a small subset of men in both cases. There is no contradiction. Women are choosing the wrong men because they are too picky. So you just twisted the narrative and are talking nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:16 PM
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You're arguing against mathematics. Are you really that stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:58 PM
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Even if such are areas were 10 times more likely to see men 5' and under, that would mean only 1 out 1000 men would be that height. So you're talking bullshit and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:43 PM
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Lol, so basically short guys are second choices. Also in my mind experience these ideals very often translate to requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:10 PM
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Funny how women in this sub always say that women only want the guy to be taller than her, but in this thread 5'4'' women are saying they want to date 6'2'' guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:18 AM
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The biggest Chad i know is 5'6. He is not a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:22 PM
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But men under 6 ft get laid. But below a certain height things get very bad for men. Being short is one of the most unattractive feature for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 09:38 PM
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Lol, did you even read what I wrote? Online dating IS real life, because most people meet through it. So you can't tell men to just ignore it. What works for you cannot work at a population level, it's simple math.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:16 PM
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The vast majority of women ALIVE on PLANET EARTH aren't on dating apps or instagram Evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:11 PM
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Dating Apps are not real life. Online dating is the most popular way of finding partners by far. Statistics confirm this and it will only worse in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:10 PM
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Imagine, a woman saying that she would never date black men because she don't want black kids as they might have it harder in life. For some reason though, saying this about short people is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:16 PM
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She is literally average height for a woman. Her dad is one inch below average lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:10 PM
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I agree that it helps. However, the extent to which it does is overrated. A 5'6'' guy will gain FAR more by suddenly becoming 6' then by getting in his best shape possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:15 PM
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You're at a height, where if you work in all other areas you can still have some success. Takeaway 3 inches and you'd get no action.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:17 PM
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Agreed. The mysogyny is their biggest problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:09 PM
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Get a fuck boy drunk and watch him break down about how he doesn’t have anybody to love and how causal sex makes him feel lonely now. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:03 PM
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all it takes is to be healthy, so what most guys can do is to join a gym or start doing sports on their own Nonsense. Are you speaking from personal experience? Because that doesn't work at all. What works is being tall and have an attractive face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:00 PM
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The study doesn't anything about the reason behind the data. The article cites "a psychologist" with his explanation of the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:24 AM
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Ladbible??? Have some respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:19 AM
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It's men who get their panties in a twist if a woman wears high heels and she's taller than him. Women care about height far more than men. Literally every study about attraction proves this. Also, to your the amount of times women say crap like "he needs to be taller than me in heels" is immeasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 11:46 PM
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Exceptions confirm the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:59 PM
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But the study clearly shows that women height requirements arewayyy stricter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:44 AM
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https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Conditional-mate-preferences%3A-Factors-influencing-Salska-Frederick/d79058c0ad52218f4958388b0185c84e96a0b28d Studies like this exist and back up my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:31 AM
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Usually the standard is 4-5 inches taller than me. So if you're 5'6'' around 80-90% of women won't date based on height alone. So things are still quite bad for short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:27 AM
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I've never met a woman that liked short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 05:24 PM
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Still like 'em tall though. Sorry. I like long, lanky limbs The heightpill is indeed the harshest of the pills to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:15 PM
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I think you stacked the deck against Michael to try and “ah-ha gotcha,” to argue that women prefer tall, naturally successful men Is that false??? Women clearly want those kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:34 PM
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Men demand the lie. Look at the behavior when women say they love tall men. Look also at the reaction when men point out the height requirements, but so many women gaslight to th extent they completely refuse that this is even a problem in the first place (check out any dating sub as an example). They lie because they are either oblivious to their own privilege or they just gaslight other people to feel better about themselves. Men don't want women to lie, they want women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:24 PM
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