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Is that why women mock and ridicule single men? You think if we liked women enough in general we would lower our standards to have a partner? Is a man being single a sign of misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:43 PM
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Women hate it when single men don’t pursue women in general. They insult and ridicule and mock men without romantic partners. They call people incels for fun. Maybe they will claim you have erectile dysfunction, or that you are a pathetic loser in some way. It’s fascinating behavior to witness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:41 PM
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It’s for men to become women and get into femdom fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:56 PM
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Yeah well no woman says “greetings, sub” in real life because I’d become Sean Connery or Dr Dre instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:39 PM
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I don’t give a fuck about feminism anymore. It’s just a cover for cunty behavior.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 02:27 PM
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What I said to the “mistress” in it’s entirety is “fuck you bitch. You aren’t dominating shit, you cunt.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:24 PM
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You just have to get to a point where you don’t give a fuck. I let 15 matches sit there and some women got passive aggressive and said “I noticed we matched”. Shit like that. I had a femdom “mistress” message me and I called her a bitch and told her she isn’t dominating shit. Just say fuck it. Let these hoes pound sand .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:53 PM
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I’ve had therapy before. I got regular therapy in 2002, 2009, 2019, and last year. For me the conclusion of the article is most powerful. Women are - apparently- more empathetic and that’s why they’re obsessed with “what’s wrong with men” or “why are men in their flop era.” So we can’t get through difficult times without women judging, complaining, mocking, and ridicule. Here’s a good example about how women talk about us single men. I definitely want to take a long break from women. https://shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:40 PM
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This article sums up what I think. Men need a lot more space away from women. https://www.conorfitzgerald.com/p/whats-wrong-with-the-whats-wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:06 AM
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There’s just so much wrong with dating for men today. I couldn’t even cover it all. But I mean why is it bad for a man to be single but for a woman it is empowering? I don’t want to be needy but that dichotomy in the culture puts me in the needy position. I have to go and chase women when the science shows I won’t make them happy. Am I supposed to chase women for purely selfish or sexual reasons? In that case the effort isn’t worth the prize. Also dating is just no fun. It’s a job interview that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:51 AM
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It’s apparently been scientifically proven men benefit more from relationships and I don’t want to be a handicap on a woman. I will get my own place eventually but I don’t think I will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:31 AM
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I don’t care if you sympathize. I’ve already accepted the adversarial era we’re in. I am more then prepared to stay single for the rest of my life. I do think men and women should step back from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:11 AM
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Since my last relationship ended last year I have lived at my parents house. A man can’t dating living at his parents house. Plus I think women dislike men more so today. You hear about how much happier they are without us. It’s like why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:07 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:42 AM
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You are wrong. I’m 36, I’m six feet tall with a master’s degree, no issues, I’m a good musician, and I still struggle. In fact I’m not dating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:24 AM
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Looking’s free, but touching is gonna cost you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:27 PM
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When nudes leak of men women emasculate. I remember they mocked Jude Law’s dick size. When everyone knows dicks are smaller when flaccid. I don’t think it compares to masturbation to these women, which they could arguably consider a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:51 PM
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Men liked the fappening because of what it’s called. They spanked it to these women and moved on. But women like to humiliate, mock, shame men sexually. That’s what’s happening here. You decide which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:31 PM
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It’s plain to see for anyone. It’s done openly. Men are manipulated because we can’t be beaten in strength. When we look at a lion chowing down on a zebra, don’t forget, we came from the same nature. Hypergamy is pretty tame compared to the spider that bites the male’s head off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:51 PM
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Oh, well that’s a bummer for him. Leaking texts to the public sounds petty though. She must have been pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:28 PM
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I don’t know anything about Jonah hill’s texts. That’s one I missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:21 PM
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Maybe you’re right it is society. Maybe we would get along and be happy with each other if we weren’t under such social and economic pressures constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:12 PM
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Maybe. The problem is we want different things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:00 PM
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I was out on Saturday afternoon when I got some of that snickering and eye rolling. When I was run off the road I just smiled as I stood there in the grass like an idiot. It’s fine. This is just passive aggressive behavior maybe because everyone in society is stressed right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:51 PM
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I don’t think there is but I think most women do think they are superior. Because women can’t win in a physical match with men, nature armed them with other tools of persuasion. But on some level they still detest us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:42 PM
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Lately I’ve experienced some weird stuff in public from women. Snickering, scoffing, eye rolling, judgmental staring, being passive aggressive saying “OK!” or “BYE!” in really rude manner. It’s not across the board because the woman at the dispensary was nice to me the other day. But I feel much more negative energy from most women toward me. The weirdest one is a woman riding her bike, leading a group of bicyclists in neon spandex, she ran me off the road when I was out for a walk. It’s given m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:40 PM
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Lately I’ve experienced more and more public rudeness from women. I think the genders must not be in a good spot with each other culturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:29 PM
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All dating advice seems to be bullshit. I find women just don’t like men and nature made us so that we’ll never fit in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:53 PM
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Semantics. The main thing is keep your pipes clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:57 PM
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Masturbation is a part of a healthy sex life, especially when you don’t have a partner. Regular ejaculations are good for prostate health.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:43 PM
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You have to keep those pipes cleaned out to live comfortably. Most guys don’t have women to have sex with whenever they get the urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:35 PM
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I don’t think it’s true. Women generally dislike single men. And they hate single attractive men. And women know they are happier without men according to modern science.. so why would I impose unhappiness on a woman be being her partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:29 PM
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Women calling us inherent deviants is projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:37 PM
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I’m fine with going this route. But it still seems kind of fucked up. They say being six feet tall helps, I don’t think it does, neither does having a Master’s degree, or a good job. I’ve really stepped up. I put a lot of pressure on myself to build a life and still no one cares about any of it. All I said is I can survive being single, doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:20 PM
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That’s cool. I wanted to be a father and if that’s the only way I can do it that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:13 PM
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I’m definitely not going back on those apps. I can survive being single. Millions of men will be single, millions of women too. In fact half of all American women will be single by 2030. Adjusting to a single world is what’s needed. Whether I donate sperm or adopt or both, I’ll find a way to get what i want from life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:07 PM
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Most of that article makes sense to me. Basically it’s about women being dehumanized by gamification of dating. I think it’s a fair point. Although women have always done the same, dehumanized men. I personally became so frustrated with swiping with no matches I’ve given up online dating. There’s nothing that can get me back on those apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:53 PM
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Your link kind of proves my point. There aren’t articles explaining why men won’t swipe right because a woman has a selfie in a dirty mirror. I mean these are petty reasons to not swipe right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:45 PM
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This study proves it. Also women are happier without men or children so why would I impose unhappiness on a woman? https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/women-more-selective-80-men-unattractive-on-dating-apps-recent-research#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20an%20OkCupid%20study%20found,which%20is%20to%20be%20expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:37 PM
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80% of men are considered unattractive and over half of men can’t find romantic partners. It’s because women are sharing the same top 20% of men. That’s hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:32 PM
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Hypergamy doesn’t hurt women. It helps women find the best partner. Since many women settle in marriage and later initiate divorce I don’t think marriages are a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:14 PM
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How does hypergamy dehumanize women when hypergamy is literally the human mating strategy for women? It can’t be dehumanizing and the human norm at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:54 PM
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No. Even among the lowest status women they expect men to initiate everything, spend money on them, and they probably secretly hate men like most women do, only they’ll have an even bigger chip on her shoulder because of their low status. It’s a bad idea to stick your dick into a low status woman. Men can just jerk off instead. It’s safer anyway. This post is balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:53 PM
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Women feel so entitled to men because in evolution men were a survival utility for women. That’s why women snicker and sneer at single, celibate men. You aren’t doing your evolutionary part. I say too bad. Kiss my Ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:06 PM
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I was literally eating lunch with my mom making no contact with any women at all. They magically discovered I have some poor attitude towards women. It seems like they have a poor attitude towards me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 11:01 PM
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You think I deserve random hate from random strangers?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 10:49 PM
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I don’t know what you’re talking about. I haven’t had any positive interactions with women in a long, long time. Like 2010 long.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 10:38 PM
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Well then maybe it’s me. Just a few days ago I was out for a walk when a woman leading a group of neon wearing bicyclists ran me into the grass. It was pretty blatant. They were going very fast and we all could have been hurt. Maybe women just hate me for some reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 10:27 PM
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I can’t tell you exactly what they were thinking. But the looks on their faces tell me it wasn’t good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 10:22 PM
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It was mostly when I was walking out to the parking lot a bunch of women passed me by making these faces. Tight lipped, side eyed, you can tell when someone looks at you and looks away. To me it was obvious three women at least were making faces at me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 10:16 PM
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Yes in the US.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 09:58 PM
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I don’t even care when they demonize men. I just wonder how I’m supposed to have a relationship with women who fundamentally dislike single men. It’s a crazy catch 22.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 09:57 PM
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I’ve found out since being divorced that women treat adult single men pretty badly. It’s hard to be an advocate for someone who mocks you for not having a romantic partner. Who sneer, snicker, and roll their eyes when they see you. That is honestly how it feels being single in your 30’s. I went out for a late lunch with my mom yesterday and the looks I got from women were just awful. It makes me feel vindicated for dropping out of dating and most of society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 08:59 PM
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I think low SMV women say a lot of stupid things to inflate their ego and try to position themselves above men when they are just insecure.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 05:43 PM
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Not on the lack of marriageable men. That’s a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:39 PM
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No there aren’t. The marriage rate is lowest in history. More men live with their parents than a romantic partner. And women don’t marry men who live with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:38 PM
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Agree to disagree. I mean you know. Are there plentiful marriageable men in society? You know there aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:33 PM
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So you think I both deserved it and I’m delusional for thinking it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:28 PM
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I wasn’t whining. I wasn’t even talking to women. I was just having lunch with my mom and these women were snickering and making faces at me. We all know women love to mock men with perceived low SMV. Taken to extremes it becomes femdom or cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:19 PM
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Modern women haven’t changed. They want masculine men not nice guys. It’s an old trope for a reason. The only time women pick nice guys is when they are insecure and afraid of masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:16 PM
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It was weird enough to make me uncomfortable. Some light snickering, some tight lipped side eye, one girls eyes got really sarcastically wide in what I felt was judgmental. After this sad episode I just laid in bed the rest of the day. I mean how am I supposed to find a partner and have children of women just despise & mock me? Laying in bed is more fulfilling than trying to date for a man. I might have to adopt if I want to be a father. I’ll never be a biological father. Millions of men in Amer…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:08 PM
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SMV also explains why women were snickering at me during lunch with my mom the other day. Women love to laugh at men they perceive to be low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:52 PM
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I think SMV explains women’s attraction in a way men can understand. Maybe those words can’t capture all the intuition women live by. Probably no words can. But concepts like hypergamy, monkey branching, shit tests, SMV. These are all ways men are trying to put words and reason to women’s sexual behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:49 PM
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I think healthy down time is needed, sure. But I think one of the differences between men & women is men can’t feel content just chilling. We’re never going to frolic around after capitalism collapses. We’re meant to always be doing, striving, it goes back to evolution when men worked hard to provide and protect women so the species could continue. That’s just the way men’s brains operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:29 PM
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I think it’s fine to have hobbies you do by yourself at home, but people spend way too much time at home in front of screens. Take my other grandfather, my mom’s father, we called him poppy, he always worked. He was a bus driver in Los Angeles in the early 50’s. He drove a semi truck in the 60’s and 70’s. He was a gas station attendant in the 90’s which I remember. And he always had a good time working, joking, doing things for other people. That’s a man’s role. I don’t like seeing men being so …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:40 PM
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I understand when the attraction just isn’t happening and the pheromones aren’t working. I’ve had more physical chemistry and mutual desire with redheads or blondes than with latinas or ethnic Jewish women. I’ve tried dating them all and I know what works for me and what doesn’t. But that was in an era when dating was possible for most men. I’m talking 2009-2011 is when I had my sexual discovery period. Young men today aren’t having sexual discovery periods at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:23 PM
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Men are naturally going to see it as a lack of ‘contribution to society’ problem. My gramps who grew up in the 30’s and flew a b-29 over the South Pacific taught me the most important value a man can have is service. And when we have nothing to serve we lose purpose. I’m very lucky I haven’t lost my job. Being single my money is piling up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:18 PM
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In that case we are just describing the same things. A bitter and angry man after a job loss is lower in value. He is no longer contributing to society through work. He is no longer offering peace and stability in the relationship. In effect saying his SMV got lowered isn’t wrong. Women don’t want to have sex with angry failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:04 PM
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Is it so hard to fathom an attractive man would be single at 36? There has to be some undiscovered defect in me as the cause, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:46 PM
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But it isn’t really men who believe in SMV. Men can love women much lower in status than them. I think one of the reasons these men came up with the SMV concept is because we watch women play the game for the best guy they can. Some of us have even experienced it, when my value lowered in a relationship, I got cheated on. So we ask ourselves, what qualities do those men have that get success and don’t get cheated on? It turns out traits associated with dominance and status. Men don’t look for st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:24 PM
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OP doesn’t speak for all of us. I’m a tall attractive guy who married an over weight woman. We got divorced because of her drinking. During the marriage I encouraged her to lose weight because she wanted to. She said I helped motivate her. She even asked me to push her a little for extra motivation. But even so we were deeply in love and I was attracted to her in bed. We had a great sex life. I had to leave after I mentally couldn’t take her drinking anymore. It’s just not true men can’t love ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:55 PM
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I don’t think there is a problem with me. I’m attractive and intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:49 PM
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It’s what the data says. Women are happier single. And like I said they can go to a sperm bank. So why are men supposed to chase women again?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:47 PM
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Seriously though, why do women taunt and snicker at men who don’t or can’t date and have sex? Would you make fun of a paraplegic for the same reason? Why do women want to date men when women are happier childless and single? You don’t make sense. You should be glad one less man is bothering women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:45 PM
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If it’s been a year for me and might never happen again I think there’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:05 AM
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I feel you. I don’t know what to do personally. I’m 36 and I wanted to have a wife and child by now. Without that my life is just weed naps. It’s pretty much over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:03 AM
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Only the most attractive/wealthiest. I’m six feet tall with a masters degree and it’s been over a year. I’ve kind of given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:52 AM
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I don’t even try one night stands. Who am I kidding my plans tonight are to lay in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:50 AM
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Sure but the data doesn’t lie. Women are happier without men. I don’t want to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:05 AM
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I’m human and I admit I do miss the companionship, sex, and satisfaction of a relationship, at least while they last. But I’m having a hard time understanding why I should pursue when women don’t even need us & are happier without men. Why is the onus on us to pursue indifferent women? Is it worth what they bring to a relationship? If you even get that success at all. I don’t know. It doesn’t seem worth it any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:53 AM
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I wonder why hinge hasn’t worked for me. It’s weird because I don’t understand if you are supposed to comment like or message or all three? I’m just going through liking and never get any match.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:39 AM
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Is the song and dance supposed to prevent cheating? What does a woman bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:37 AM
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That’s all really dumb to me. Why should I go through this song and dance for a woman? What does a woman offer to me that I have to start playing this silly game?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:58 AM
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One of the funnier things women think is men are having sex. Most of us only have the right hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:57 AM
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I think this is probably true. And what’s funny is women think all men get sex constantly. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:55 AM
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For me it’s no biggie because I’ve been in relationships every year since 2009 until last year. But it’s like if you say to women as a man I’m voluntarily not having sex they either get mad or confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:10 PM
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I never have mocked anyone for being by sexless. Nor have I been mocked by other men. All men know we masturbate to get the release most of the time even in relationships. It’s usually women who mock men for being sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:08 PM
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I’ve had a lot of rude stuff said to me. I’ve been called an incel many times. I can’t get a girlfriend or have sex many many times. Maybe some could have been guys but most presented as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:31 PM
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Tldr
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:27 PM
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There are plenty of women here who use that terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:23 PM
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Women can go to a sperm clinic to have kids. Or get pregnant in a hook up. This is a question about a relationship with women. Apparently relationships are net losses for women because women are happier single and childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:16 PM
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I don’t think so. I mean I’ve heard stuff like “you know they make pills for men like you” from blue pill women. Red pill men are too stupid to come up with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:12 PM
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I don’t think so: I mean I’ve heard stuff like “you know they make pills for men like you” from blue pill women. Red pill men are too stupid to come up with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:11 PM
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I’m talking about women on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:06 PM
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I think I know more than enough about female sexuality having been in relationships with women for over a decade in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:12 PM
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Then why are women always taunting and mocking men for not having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:03 PM
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Just give it up dude. I took up yoga. Got better at guitar. I go to bars on Saturday nights for Karaoke and beers. You can leave a free and happy life as a bachelor. You will get rich much faster as a bachelor. Despite the resentful taunts from women, there are no down sides to being a single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:34 PM
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I guess you just don’t understand what it’s like, being who I am, feeling very valuable, knowing I’m a great partner, lover, musician, having family tell me I could do so much better, but how no one outside of family cares, even if you’re a valuable man, you have no future, and if it’s happening to me there are millions if not over half of our society’s men in the same boat. This dooms our society in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:34 PM
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I don’t think I would use a word as stupid as gynocentric. It just so happens the way this society evolved and is set up that non-rich men haven’t been able to find a place that makes sense. For example I’m educated, I have a Master’s degree. I’m 6 feet tall, have a better than average income, so at 36 I should be with a wife raising children and not single & hanging out with my elderly parents. It’s just not a natural way to live as an adult man. You don’t want to be in the middle of satisfying…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:04 PM
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I think men and women are equal as human beings, but that doesn’t mean men and women want the same things out of relationships. My opinion on the red pill is they take a small grain of truth - that women “date up”, and blow it up so much it becomes she’ll leave you if you sneeze funny or say ouch if you roll your ankle. It becomes stupid. So no I’m not a red pill guy. I just don’t want relationships or sex with anyone right now. I resent the idea men are always desperate. It’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:10 PM
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I think it’s sad because it’s not the society I remember from the 90’s where almost everyone was partnered with children. And I naively thought the future wouldn’t change and that growing up would always mean eventually a partner and children. As a boy I predicted by my 30’s I would have my own home and children. Why wouldn’t I? And trying to fit into a society where that is now unlikely and maybe even irresponsible is a tough pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:29 PM
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Men aren’t struggling because of being average or below average. We’re struggling because society has nothing good for us to do and women hate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:09 PM
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You can be an above average guy six feet tall handsome and still struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:05 PM
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This is a forum about modern dating, it’s not a dating site. I’m so tired of this condescending idea that men have to be partnered to have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:55 PM
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No I never dated after my divorce. I was with the same woman since 2015. Things were different then. If women are happier single it’s insulting to expect men to chase. It’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:16 AM
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I think over half of young men don’t date. Over half would be widespread. Technically I’m older than these guys. It’s 63% of men under 30 not dating. But I’m 36 not dating, my buddy is 36 and not dating. So guys in their 30’s have dropped out too. I think disrespect has a lot to do with it. And expectations. Women are happier without men and don’t need men for finances so we’re left with the expectation we pursue when we have so much less to offer. It’s not a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:59 AM
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Who the fuck would want to give sex to ungrateful and hypocritical and disrespectful women. See ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:53 AM
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You don’t believe men have left the dating market? I personally have been single since august. I don’t get the “what are we” conversation because I don’t have sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:47 AM
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I’ll tell you one more thing. Every weekend I go to bars and women are always making eye contact with me and by the end of the night they look so depressed when I haven’t approached. Good! I enjoy the depressed look on their faces. I’m glad more men are leaving the dating market and letting these women go home to their vibrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:41 AM
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You must know some men in real life who have withdrawn from dating and sex. It’s a widespread phenomenon. I do think women use men for sex, constantly. Men are just too stupid to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:34 AM
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Just leave me alone and stop talking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:30 AM
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I’m not even reading that. Oh you knew this would happen by assuming I have to reciprocate sexual interest because I’m just a lowly man. Get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:26 AM
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I haven’t dated after my divorce but it sounds like women today think men are only good for sex. Me Too said all these terrible things about how we were all rapist predators and women were like “if that’s how subhuman men are, I will just use them for sex.” That’s what it seems like. I’ve known women who think this way. I’ve dated some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:01 AM
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So you wrote this dawn out thing about how if you got more attention from men you have been raked but when I get attention from women I’m just “not fully comfortable with girl’s attention.” What the fucking fuck. Men are predators but somehow it’s still unhealthy for me not to reciprocate sexual attention. You must think we are nothing but subhuman sex crazed morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:54 AM
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Good then I will be a fearful self loathing, passive pessimist just to piss you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:47 AM
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What are you even talking about. Literally who gives a fuck if some guy took home three girls? This sub is a discussion about modern relationships, not a pick up artistry site. You’re in the wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:46 AM
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I’m sorry you hate men & our sexuality so much. I’ve met women who love and enjoy male sexuality. Like I said I’m not dating so I’m clearly not part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:38 AM
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That wasn’t that uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:34 AM
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I don’t think I have a silly attitude about women. It might seem like it on Tinder and on Humble or whatever that literally every guy is out trying to date but it’s just not true. Many guys don’t date. My best buddy in town has been single living with his folks for years. Neither of us date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:44 AM
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And how do you suppose I would rebuild my poor confidence? I think I get plenty of interest from women at the bars I go to. I’m just not chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:55 PM
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Oh hell no. I’m definitely not looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:14 PM
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Based on my experience I think it’s true that men are more emotionally monogamous, consider that we have more to lose when a relationship ends. My last relationship ended in August and I still have no shot at another. That means no more sex, no more companionship. So naturally with more to lose we get more attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:44 PM
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Wow that’s crazy. I can’t believe some men still approach. You must be good looking. I haven’t approached a woman since 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:46 PM
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I don’t think male force is tenable if we want to prove why we’re needed in a good society. Really it would prove the liberals point, that masculinity needs to be muzzled and suppressed. I’m a peaceful man who would only use force in defense. We need to stick to that standard no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:35 PM
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I feel that. I don’t know why it’s so hard for parents to understand. They don’t understand men are coming from a position of cultural powerlessness and the only way we can maintain our dignity and not get eaten alive in relationships is to stay single. It’s sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:43 PM
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I dunno man I’ve cursed out my folks before. When they just don’t understand why we aren’t all making babies like its morning in America or some shit. These people milked when milking was good now turn around and tell us we suck. I don’t think so. Not even my folks can pull that shit with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:36 PM
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If my parents shamed me for being single I’d be pretty pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:07 PM
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The uncomfortable one sounds more fun but why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:19 PM
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Teasing me for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:50 PM
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Why do you appreciate the silence? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:26 PM
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Oh ok. Even so. I ended a toxic marriage with a violent alcoholic woman who slept with a huge knife next to the bed and I’m kind of triggered by this story.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 04:12 PM
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I’m a good looking guy who avoids women maybe we can trade places. Like that movie. Trading places.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:08 PM
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I enjoy the disappointment because a few glances from a woman shouldn’t mean I drop everything i’m doing and be expected to chase, then all obligation and expectation is on me, like I should be so lucky to be given this opportunity just because of a few shared glances, when at the same time you don’t need men for anything. I don’t have a good place to take a woman for romance any way. I just think I’m devalued when I’m expected to chase for just sex. I’m not doing it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:02 PM
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It’s not like I’m dying. I’m not going anywhere. Just not dating. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:39 PM
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It was a problem for me personally. I’ve always hung out in bars and I shouldn’t have let women be so bold with me when I was 23. But it’s not so much a problem now, maybe I’m losing my sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:35 PM
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I’ve kind of accepted mass social instability is coming. But I live in a rich suburb in Ron Desantis’ Florida so I think I’ll be alright. That’s privilege for you. But no I think men and women want different things. What we’re really doing is letting evolution take control and in evolution women are the selectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:32 PM
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If single, childless women are happiest can women leave us alone and stop asking for sex and relationships? I’m personally very happy as a bachelor. I feel like a kid again. And frankly I don’t want to live as long as my grandparents did on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:16 PM
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I’m not complaining about anything. I’m good. I think it’s sad for American society. I remember the 90’s when most adults were partnered with children. But the culture changes and it is what it is. I’m cursed with a good memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:00 PM
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That’s fine. Men don’t need to follow your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:51 PM
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It’s looney tunes out there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:45 PM
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That’s because I’m the fuckin man. No I’m kidding that’s because when I finished my bachelors I just stayed in college in hiding from the 2011 job market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:40 PM
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Tldr Depression rates among women are very high I think because men do no longer pursue women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:36 PM
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Well I’m in a minority then because historically I earned a masters degree in 2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:35 PM
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I already have, my last relationship ended last summer. I know I won’t be missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:34 PM
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No we don’t. Men are fine on their own. We whine a lot about it but at the end of the day it’s the best choice. Men are falling behind in capitalism and won’t reach an excessive old age. So what. We can wood work or something. Once we stop whining about women there’s a whole world to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:15 PM
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Is this a sub on dating? I thought it was the Pill debate, which is really a socio cultural debate about the state of modern dating. Some women have wronged me but that’s not why I’m a bachelor. I just can’t see what women add to my life in a relationship. It’s a hassle. A waste of time and energy. Arguments happen, that’s the worst. I got into a bad argument with my ex wife right on the sunset strip. She was an alcoholic and hasn’t had a drink and she’s screaming and I can hear her voice bounci…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:11 PM
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I know, and I’m criticizing women’s behavior that is beyond the reach of public policy. You can’t make people behave at a bar that’s for damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:05 PM
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I don’t feel invisible to women but I’m not any more optimistic. When I go out I get a good amount of attention from women. But I don’t see what they can offer my life. After my divorce and living with my parents means I can’t get intimate, so why bother? I don’t think I’ll date ever as long as I live with my parents. And it’s so clearly women want to be chased in the worst way. It’s stupid. You said you want equality but you still want to play Tom and Jerry games at the bar. At the end of the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:03 PM
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Better by what standard? This particular strain of capitalism feminism celebrates participating in is as toxic as Marx would have predicted. We can clearly see a history of public policy designed by corporate lobbyists that have economically emasculated America’s men. Our way back to dignity is discovering ourselves as bachelors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:56 PM
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Boys and men are doing nothing wrong in my opinion. We simply don’t need relationships with women when we get nothing out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:24 PM
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Its not across the board. But I do think on the whole women need men more than men need women. Because women get very depressed. 1 in five women take SSRI antidepressants, which are chemically castrating. Whereas guys can socially withdraw and focus on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:20 PM
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That’s what I’m saying. I can take care of all my needs without a woman and you can too. That’s equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:16 PM
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I think men will win the gender war. Women need more from us than we need from them. Sure it’s depressing but we can meet every need ourselves without having to invest extra into a woman that doesn’t offer anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:08 PM
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Any time a bachelor man asks what he gets from a relationship with a woman a woman melts down and accuses misogynist. You must think women are a subspecies for not investing in relationships. These are arguments are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:51 PM
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I never said I disliked women or consider them a subspecies. I like women. When I worked in the office all my best work buds were the women. But in terms of establishing a relationship with a woman, that I realize is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:44 PM
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That’s the one thing they can do that I can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:39 PM
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It’s gross to want to be a father. See this is why I avoid and ignore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:22 PM
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I think would be war between genders. I don’t treat women like I used to. I used to chase, I used to date, I used to have sex, I used to praise, and now I enjoy snubbing interested women in public. I enjoy the depressed look when they realize i’m walking away instead of approaching. So something is definitely going on. In 2010 I was a stud chasing women like no tomorrow. So the culture causes me to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:21 PM
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I tried apps because I’m human. I wanted to be a father. But I’ve since deleted them and I might end up adopting instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:18 PM
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Then I had a very equitable divorce and I’m enjoying not approaching which is also equitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:15 PM
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War also means a state of conflict, competition, and hostility between groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:14 PM
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It seems that way because feminism makes women hypocritical. They want equality but complain men don’t chase. One minute we’re toxic masculinity they next minute they whine we don’t chase. I’ve seen women do this at bars. They look at you, make you sure notice, then act like you’re supposed to chase like I’m the coyote abs she’s the road runner or some shit. It’s dumb. Yet they claim they want equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:13 PM
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The gender war just manifests differently in the real world. Women are passive aggressive toward men and men avoid and ignore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:10 PM
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It’s not equality if girls pass boys out in education and home ownership. In equality 50% of divorced would be initiated by men. I initiated my divorce so I’m working hard for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:08 PM
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I noticed my behavior changed since Me Too. Just last weekend trying to get by a woman in a cramped bar I said excuse me and rather than touch her in any way I got awkwardly caught on her back back, and meanwhile my hands are like in prayer pointing forward and visible so everyone can see I’m not touching her in any way. I’d rather be embarrassingly caught on her backpack than be accused of harassment. Also, women give invites in bars with eye contact games. I ignore those games too and women of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:04 PM
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What makes you think a single man must find a woman or wants to find a woman, when women believe they are worth infinite effort but offer nothing in return? I’m a bachelor by choice. I ignore women at bars all the time. Especially the women who try to get noticed by me. I ignored all my matches in dating apps then deleted the apps. Men don’t need women anymore. And vice versa. Women said they could do it all themselves. So what’s the problem? Many people are choosing to be single today. There’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:58 AM
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That’s a fantasy. No woman is worth all the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:48 AM
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Sure men like consistent sex but it’s not always an option. And even in relationships you might not get consistent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:55 PM
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Who cares? What is a woman’s approval worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:43 PM
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Yes and that’s part of the reason why men are standing back and letting the society flounder. It’s like if you don’t need us alright fuck you.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 12:51 PM
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No I got drunk.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 11:42 AM
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I’m a man and I don’t value any of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:10 AM
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I just hung out last weekend. I drank 7 Irish beers. It was great.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 02:21 AM
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No, you talked about men wanting to have sex as a bad thing. I disagree and think our sexuality should be seen in a positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:43 AM
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Sure why not.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 12:55 AM
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I’m sad for the husband. Never get married. This could be you.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 11:29 PM
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My response has been what is our purpose in life as men? They never have an answer.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 11:26 PM
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That’s probably not the only reason feminists are feminists. But if given power most humans will use it. Women or men. The problem is the dating market removes all power from men so it’s not fun or worth it to participate.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 09:32 PM
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If you’re an attractive man women will be mad you’re a celibate bachelor. You can’t please everyone in life.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 09:29 PM
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Do you find dealing with all the conversation & time spent is worth getting laid when porn is all over the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:03 PM
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In some sense all relationships are a competition for power. She wants to make sure you won’t leave. My ex wife pulled power moves on me after the wedding and I divorced her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:38 PM
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A number of things are going on. One, things always look worse on Reddit. Two, too much unbridled neoliberal capitalism since Reagan. Led to the GFC. Fucked up housing and working class jobs for men. Three, women have been angry with men for a long time, over patriarchy, rape culture, etc, and are now able to take their anger out on us. Four, this is all going on with the backdrop of an unaccountable oligarchy and a runaway climate crisis. So this is a deeply traumatized society and the genders …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:36 PM
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But not as exaggerated as the number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:28 PM
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Who gives a shit if someone is genuinely kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:54 PM
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As a man I never thought I had out of control standards. In fact I’ve often been accused of being able to do better - including by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:19 PM
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Just because Feminists say don’t approach doesn’t mean we only have to worry about feminism. I worry about wasting my time with women. Every weekend I see a woman I could approach in a bar and I don’t. It’s not even worth the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:53 PM
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Why is men wanting to have sex icky but women wanting sex is beautiful and empowering?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:47 PM
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I don’t approach anymore because I don’t want that to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:46 PM
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