TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

ClaraBow01 Archive

View 0 posts and 1,716 comments by ClaraBow01 on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
Showing the 1,000 most recent of 1,716 comments.
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
1

Does the same apply to men with multiple partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:20 PM
1

I’m pretty sure you can masturbate without porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:19 PM
1

From my understanding, men consume porn because they feel it’s what they have to do to be a man. Many men who consume porn have active sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:26 PM
1

Just because you have worked on a car once doesn’t mean you are good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:21 PM
1

So having sex with one person exhausts bonding abilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:20 PM
1

No. I just haven’t found a guy I want to have sex with yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:19 PM
1

I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:17 PM
1

That’s the most reasonable purpose. But I think most men with a virgin preference don’t think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:16 PM
1

Yeah. I know that. As a virgin myself, people with virgin preferences creep me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:07 PM
1

Why do you want a virgin woman? There is almost no difference between a virgin and a non-virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:00 PM
1

“Men and women are different” as a way to justify putting down one of the genders (usually women). Everyone is different. Gender is just one of the many things that makes humans unique from one another. Religion and culture have much more impact on who you are than your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:57 PM
1

Do you seriously think only 5-10% of men are dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:55 PM
1

If it means anything, the only women I have seen say stuff like “I expect men to pay” tend to be anti-feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:10 AM
1

Choices aren’t made in a vacuum. There’s clearly something fishy when the sex industry has almost servers being women and almost all clients being men. If there was an entire industry like that but you replace women with black people and men with white people, that’s indicative of something wrong. Being a feminist doesn’t mean you support all women’s choices. That’s ridiculous. I’m sure there are women who freely choose to be prostitutes, but they are the minority. You notice I never insulted pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:23 AM
1

No. To me, that’s adultery and cheating. Porn is bad enough, but OF takes it to another level. If he’d rather pay random people online for porn, then he’s clearly not into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:15 AM
1

Okay sweetie. Now tell about how the moon landing was faked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:56 AM
1

I sense some projection. Did you source anything in your OP? Your OP makes much more generalized and gross statements than my comment does. Both men and women, generally, have similar amounts of in-group gender bias is my main claim. The idea that women are purer or whatever is something the feminist movement has actively fought against and it remains today because of misogynistic conservatives who obsess over women’s virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:47 AM
1

There are numerous instances of the bystander effect where men back other men who have done horrible things. Like how women are pressured by men in authority to not press charges against an abuser. Men, especially in RedPill circles, get slack for doing shitty things. Gamergate is a great example of male in-group bias in a harmful form. Conversely, there are a lot of pick-me girls out there who throw women under the bus. Everyone in general has in-groups bias which is fine when it comes to insig…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:34 AM
1

Men have in-group biases just as much if not more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:27 AM
1

You don’t understand my point. Of course these people’s experience matter. I’m saying that their bad experiences aren’t necessarily indicative on any kind of trend or general truth about women or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:23 AM
1

It’s only as hard as you allow it to be. I’m 21, female, fairly attractive, thin, but I’m a virgin. Never even kissed a guy. I want to get married and have children one day but I just haven’t found a man I want to do that with. Virginity shouldn’t matter to people as much as it does. There is no biological basis for it and it mainly serves to shame people (both slut-shaming and virgin shaming). I’m a virgin because I choose to be and I also have social anxiety. I have zero qualms with being a vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:55 PM
1

There are about 4 billion men in the world. The amount of men in the RedPill is a small fraction of a percent. That’s not data because theres no accounting for their universality. RedPill men tend to come from similar backgrounds and are mostly relegated to the internet. It’s like conducting a study in a prison and using that to represent the general population. Meanwhile, we have entire populations of countries where women are treated as second class citizens (like in the Middle East). Percenta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:48 PM
1

TRP are a small minority of men. That’s not data. Especially because many of them are unreliable narrators. Some have genuinely had bad experiences, but others are simply twisting situations to make themselves seem like the victim. For every one bad experience a RedPiller has with women, a million women have had just as if not worse of an experience with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:26 PM
1

Sorry, but what? Some people just don’t want to be married anymore. If someone or both partners isn’t happy in marriage, they shouldn’t be forced to stay in it out of fear of losing their children or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:19 PM
1

It’s a logical fallacy. Many of us can’t answer the question because it comes with a debatable assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:29 AM
1

I question the scale of the survey. 3100 is many but it’s much less when divided among the states. Also, multiple states weren’t counted in the study. What were these people’s ages? How were the results attained?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:28 AM
1

Your begging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:23 AM
–

Humans in general are complicated. Women are only seen as more complicated because, until recently, their voices and opinions have been drowned out or oppressed. When it turns out women are more complex than a rock, it gets labeled “complicated”, while men are considered the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:20 AM
1

No. I don’t perceive other people as being “in my league”. That’s like Middle School logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:15 AM
1

It’s not something people actually ate advocating for. It’s mainly about making a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:12 AM
1

I’m fairly slightly above average height. Getting taller would require some painful surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:11 AM
1

Incels are mostly part of the red pill and the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:10 AM
1

If someone doesn’t want to sleep with someone because they want commitment, that’s not manipulation. I don’t want to sleep with someone who isn’t committing to a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:37 PM
1

A perfect man for me is someone like Jackson Wang or something. Someone I’m attracted to and has a lot of manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:34 PM
1

The thing is that white straight male adults are treated as the standard. Other groups are characterized as others. Building and workplace regulations could be seen as ‘men’s rights’ because men make up most workplace deaths. But they don’t because men’s issues aren’t politicized or treated as a separate issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:29 PM
1

I don’t want to have to get on my tippy toes to kiss my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:26 PM
1

The only people I see calling short people undesirable and low value are RedPillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:25 PM
1

Statistics? I’m also not talking about suicide. Eating disorders are the deadliest mental illnesses. Also, being “short” doesn’t mean you are an incel. In reality, most women aren’t fickle about height. No more than men are. Just get off dating apps and touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:39 AM
–

Yeah. Comparing grown men to infants is kind of misandrist on his part ironically. Also, people probably shouldn’t be sleeping with children or elders. Very different situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:42 AM
1

I feel like this is correlation and not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:38 AM
1

Except height standards doesn’t kill people. Eating disorders do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:36 AM
1

Yeah, no. 6’5” is too tall for many women including myself. That’s taller than my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:35 AM
1

Look up the Toronto Van Attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:32 AM
1

Reddit is never consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:29 AM
1

It and similar subreddits were banned (technically quarantined) following several terrorist attacks (particularly the Toronto Van Attack) by men who subscribed to the RedPill and Manosphere. The SPLC described it as male supremacist along with the MensRights subreddit. I will also point out the TruFemcels has also been banned. FDS is also heavily criticized by many feminists and it’s likely the most hated subreddit that’s active.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:25 AM
2

Misandry and misogyny. People don’t slutshamed women because they are grossed out by penises. Most people who subscribe to that double standard have penises themselves. This double standard is about jealousy and possessiveness. Men with this double standard don’t care if penises were in a girl’s vagina. They only care that it was another man’s penis. It’s all about the motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:29 AM
1

TRP got banned because it was linked to terrorist attacks. This sub along with MenRights and AntiFeminist are still up and promote the same ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:03 AM
1

This is the equivalent of saying being against a black man with a white women is racism towards the white person. No. The stink gets on the woman when she has sex. Bisexual women are slutshamed the most and portrayed as more promiscuous than other sexualities. It’s jealousy in men, not misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:01 AM
1

Whether the girl/guy is penetrated by a penis or something else, it’s viewed as reflecting poorly on the person receiving. This is a deliberate mischaracterization of the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:01 PM
1

It’s more about the implication. Often when men say this, they are going to countries where they believe women are more submissive. They also happen to be countries with worse gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:59 PM
1

I’m 21 and a virgin woman. Never kissed a man. I just haven’t found someone I’ve fallen in love with yet. I also have social anxiety which makes it hard for me to meet people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:57 PM
1

I think it’s that many women see dating as a plus and not a necessity. We don’t have to settle for someone we aren’t happy with. Most women would rather be single that in a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:55 PM
1

And they also find tasty food to be tasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:52 PM
1

A job, ambitions, stable living, friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:51 PM
1

They are responsible for their own actions, just like the cheater is fully responsible for their own actions. The cheater should get the brunt of the blame and backlash as they made a commitment. The one who is cheated on with should receive criticism but not nearly to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:48 PM
3

Literally these guys complain that women are too promiscuous but then also complain that women aren’t having sex with them after the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:46 PM
1

Life skills education.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:43 PM
2

People’s (not just women’s) reasons are different. Sometimes they have attachment issues. Sometimes their life is at risk. Sometimes they have no support system. Sometimes they are blackmailed. Sometimes they have no understanding of what a healthy relationship looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:40 PM
1

The RedPill is a mix of genuine advice poisoned with misogyny. The worst lies are partial truths. The decent advice is a front for the actual philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:30 PM
1

Good post. I also question what counts as “masculine”. Masculinity is a social idea and can change over time. I find it more masculine for men to healthily deal with their problems than to repress them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:27 PM
8

Women have been forced to be behind men. The quote is about acknowledging the women who have influenced history but have had their achievements silenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:22 PM
8

I question if he’s actually met any women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:19 PM
–

No sweetie. Its not misandry. It’s because women are viewed as trophies and objects. It’s because many straight men want to be in control of the situation and women/gay men having sexual agency threatens their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:18 PM
1

I was completely uninterested until I was 18. I’m not overly obsessed still and I’m waiting to fall in love. I won’t have sex without love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:15 PM
1

Usually both partners are calling each other that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:12 PM
2

I wouldn’t care one bit. I’d want him to be honest in general, regardless of gender. If he is bi, I don’t want him to feel ashamed and stay in the closet. I’d be disappointed because he wasn’t honest, but I’d understand his worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:30 PM
1

If my boyfriend wants to watch porn, fine, but I’m not staying with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:27 PM
1

My mom
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:25 PM
1

It’s about the Virgin Mary, who was referred to as Madonna.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:23 PM
1

Sorry, but the modern use of the Madonna-Whore complex is completely about women’s sexuality. It’s a way in which women are categorized as either whores or virgins without any in-between. Its a way to justify slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:22 PM
1

Are we talking about actual nice guys or guys who are deluded into thinking they are nice? Actual nice guys don’t have to go around saying they are nice guys. The only time I’ve seen a guy call themselves a “nice guy” is a guy who was saying women want to be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:18 PM
2

No. Within the past like 10 years (I’m 21), I’ve been asked out twice and both were this year. One of them was a weird Redpiller who had just called me a bitch so he might not have even been serious. The other wasn’t even an explicit date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:14 PM
1

My comment was a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:12 PM
1

No, people (including men) are against porn because it’s exploitative of women. You seem to have a lot of underlying issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:11 PM
1

My point is that it’s not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:09 PM
1

Likely the former. Looks can only get you so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:07 PM
1

So…do women who are down and men who are up just not date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:06 PM
1

I only use the term “daddy” as a joke in this context. I honestly think it’s kinda gross. “Daddy” is what I call my actual dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:05 PM
1

Maybe it’s more about the whole than the parts. Or different women have different things that they are attracted to. Same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:04 PM
1

This is about South Korea. Older Korean men are actually more supportive of feminism than younger Korean men. Also, the men complaining about not getting laid (incels) tend to be pretty sexist themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:44 PM
1

And that’s one of the issues in dating. Also, mental illness doesn’t explain away mass violence. Most mentally ill people aren’t violent and not all violent people are mentally ill. Depression doesn’t make you violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:39 AM
1

Yes. The incels who shoot up schools and ram trucks into people are clearly just an inevitable reaction to women’s standards. There is clearly no other belief system or problem this stems from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:45 PM
1

You can not be the focus of someone’s life and also not be a side piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:41 PM
1

It’s more that we want to make them self-aware. Men with beliefs like that try to rationalize something when it comes from a place of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:38 PM
1

Never forget how people raged at Taylor Swift for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:36 PM
1

I can agree. As long as you respect boundaries and aren’t lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:35 PM
1

That (some) young men need to stop being so sensitive about feminism and women’s rights. Most women don’t want to reproduce with men who get offended by a kpop idol reading a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:33 PM
1

Not if you don’t know how to wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:21 PM
2

There was an implication that it’s a serious problem, which it isn’t. Social media makes false allegations and overreactions seem more prevalent than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:53 AM
2

The numbers do vary, but it is a majority. https://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/14/magazine/a-plague-awaits.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-men-buy-sex-2012-10-23/ I would also say one of the main reasons for this is because, for some fucked up reason, it’s socially normal for fathers to buy their teenage sons (12-16) a prostitute as part of some coming of age tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:52 AM
6

My point is that men can and do refuse sex and don’t consent to it. Women aren’t the gatekeepers of sex. There is no gatekeeper in sex. It’s not something a woman allows, it’s something people do together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:44 AM
2

Get a cat. Studies show with cats are seen as more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:22 AM
1

If the third party is aware cheating is going are, blame might not be the right word, but they are certainly in the wrong and being immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:21 AM
2

I don’t send nudes so I can’t speak personally but I have a theory. Women who send nudes tend to be desperate for men’s validation. Whether they were asked to or not, it almost always comes from a idea where women are supposed to sacrifice to make men happy. These women are putting their ability to work at risk because a man could put those photos on a porn site and get you fired and harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:19 AM
7

If the shoe fits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:15 AM
7

That was the saddest thing I have ever read. You compensating for something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:15 AM
8

Oh dear. You laugh at your own comments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:14 AM
2

You are conflating a lot of different genres. Pride and Prejudice and Jane Eyre are classic novels. 50 Shades and Twilight (which doesn’t even have a “bad boy”) are self-insert fantasies. Both of them are hated by just as many women who love them. Then you’ve just got fanfiction that doesn’t really prove your point. People ship Draco and Hermione because the actors were conventionally attractive and because of the element of forbidden love. It’s also a non cannon relationship, so you can’t rely …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:13 AM
7

Or you should get off of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:02 AM
4

Yeah, most women don’t do that. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:01 AM
7

Most men aren’t sexless, so your redpill revolution will be pretty small.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:00 AM
8

Women are less hypergamous now than ever. We don’t have to rely on men for survival so we don’t care as much about their assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:59 AM
7

Whether or not prostitution is legalized doesn’t really affect the prostitution rate. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand yet over 90% of men have been with prostitutes. It’s a lot lower in places where it’s legal like in Denmark and Germany, where most men never participate. Also, it will solve absolutely nothing. Sex without genuine intimacy will do nothing for these men. Their core problem of loneliness will never be solved. Also, the prostitution industry is notoriously abusive and exploitat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:58 AM
10

We aren’t the gatekeepers. If that were the case, there wouldn’t be men who have been raped by women when there are many.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:47 AM
1

I assume that these guys are planning on being with one woman, hence the opinion of most don’t matter. Also, where is your basis for thinking most women reject virgin men? I’m 21 and have never kissed, so it doesn’t sound that bad to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:21 AM
3

Makes it sound like he just wants a sex slave. I’m not saying that’s what he means but it comes off that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:41 AM
3

Everyone needs emotional support and love. The idea that men don’t need those things is why their suicide rates are higher and why their life expectancy is lower compared to women. This doesn’t necessarily have to come from a romantic relationship, but it often does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:39 AM
1

Men react just as badly to other men being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:35 AM
2

Likely a case of in-group bias or they are trying to justify to themselves when they cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:34 AM
1

Cheating is wrong. Period. Unless you are in an abusive relationship, cheating is immoral regardless of the person’s gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:32 AM
1

That’s why people shouldn’t use dating apps. Men make up most people on dating apps, so women are inevitably going to get more attention. That’s just how numbers work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:31 AM
8

Most people don’t have casual sex. TV and the internet amplify what is actually not common. STDs are not remotely common in developed nations. HPV is pretty innocuous as long as you are maintaining a standard healthy lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:30 AM
1

It is immoral and a slippery slope. Why try to appeal to people who would judge you for something so shallow? Being okay with small lies can lead to you telling bigger lies. You could also just not bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:26 AM
1

I don’t think there is anything about men as a group that I particularly like or dislike. Same goes for women. It’s basically impossible to assign any general trait to a gender because there are so many. Most of the men in my life are very nice and polite. They are traditional, but not too traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:59 AM
1

The second one is fair but the other two aren’t true. Women get a lot of pressure to look presentable. That’s why we where make-up and have far more clothing being sold to us. Eating disorders are most common among women as well. Getting a boyfriend does not mean you are treated well or live a fulfilling life. Attention from men is just as valued in society as the reverse. However, women are often placed in a submissive position regardless if they are the ones getting the attention or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:47 AM
1

Ahh, yes, it’s women who don’t take rejection well. In all seriousness, I know there are entitled women out there who act like this, and I agree that’s trash. But there are literally young men out there planning and committing terrorist attacks because women won’t date them. There is a clear distinction in extremities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:42 AM
1

Because we don’t want to end up in miserable relationships or situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:37 AM
1

I’m pretty sure that’s a case of equity. If someone is missing an arm, you shouldn’t expect them to carry as much as a two-armed person. Also, married couples share the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:36 AM
2

For women, generally it’s about the context of the sex. If the sex was consensual and safe, most people don’t care. However, they primarily care if it was through prostitution or something. I don’t think your experience will affect your dating chances. Anyone who obsesses over other people’s sexual experience aren’t worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:32 AM
2

Manners and allowing for a safe environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:30 AM
1

Or sadly too often, suicide or violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:28 AM
1

But it’s a first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:27 AM
1

I know. And that needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:26 AM
1

Casual sex is nowhere as common as people like to think. The average amount of sexual partners a woman has had is 4-5. My problem with hookup culture is that it pressures young women into situations they may not genuinely consent to. Hookup culture is more of a concept than a reality. None of my friends have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:20 PM
1

Talking about it is the healthy way. There are also certain situations where venting is appropriate, and others where it isn’t. Men can also vent to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:04 PM
1

Not venting in a healthy way is why young men are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:01 PM
3

Someone watches too much Real Housewives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:00 PM
1

All men are emotional. They often just don’t express it in a healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:59 PM
0

It’s a figure of speech. Abusive relationships happen and they are more likely when one partner is significantly older. What other reason outside of a desire for control, would a middle aged man specifically pursue barely legal girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:56 PM
1

I was more basing it on the OP’s implication
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:53 PM
1

I’m talking about in a proper democracy. Don’t know where your from, but where I’m from, there’s nobody holding a gun to my head on who to vote for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:18 AM
3

Being persuaded by a candidate’s message is not being manipulated in the same way a SO can manipulate if at all. In a standard democratic election, you have free choice to vote for who you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:34 AM
1

In a proper democratic country, you cant be intimidated into voting one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:20 AM
1

That’s a suggestion, not an assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:19 AM
1

I’m not the one making assumptions on what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:07 PM
–

Love and lust are different things. If you are attracted to a person BECAUSE they are far younger, that’s lust. Abortion and sex reassignment surgery are individual choices that involves one person, the woman. Trying to warn other women about avoiding certain men isn’t taking away agency, it’s caring about them. The same thing would apply for a young boy and older woman. How is the second example “fatalistic”? I’ve also never seen that happen. 30 isn’t old. At all. Some old men are gross, especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:06 PM
2

Sorry. I misread your comment. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:51 PM
1

Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:50 PM
2

A lot of guys are too shy to compliment women. I’m conventionally attractive and I haven’t received a comment from a man about my looks since elementary school. Also, many “compliments” women get from men are disingenuous and come at inappropriate times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:49 PM
1

Stop being homophobic. Men not being honest and too scared to be so is why we are having this young men problem in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:47 PM
0

Then get off social media
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:46 PM
1

Yeah, I don’t think you know many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:44 PM
1

Why does it matter? Plenty of women seldom get compliments from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:45 AM
1

I think it motivates families to pressure that on their daughters, however, I’m sure many women marry for money because that’s their only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:38 AM
1

Maybe men should compliment other men more. A lot of women probably avoid complimenting men because many men get the wrong idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:36 AM
3

Crying is healthy for the body and mind. I don’t cry often because of my meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:34 AM
1

Do u know what they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:12 PM
–

Not everyone has the money or time to commit to many of these professions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:55 AM
–

I’m pretty sure male sex workers get about as much empathy as female sex workers. While I agree there is hypocrisy is how some people discuss the topic, these things are seen differently because of the power dynamics. Most women in prostitution don’t want to be there and are from disadvantaged situations. Most Johns are not disadvantaged and aren’t motivated by survival. It’s the same reason we view drug traffickers as worse than drug users. Drug traffickers are often wealthy and get pleasure of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:38 AM
0

I’m not saying it’s about race. I’m saying that judging an entire group based on one or few anecdotes is what causes stuff like racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:08 AM
2

Outside of the funny or not easily intimidated, none of these are actually standards of mine. Preference-wise, 6’2” is a little too tall, I prefer men with bigger eyes, and “assertive” can have negative connotations if applied wrongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:57 PM
–

It should be the other way around. A relationship should be assumed to be monogamous unless otherwise stated as such. There are plenty of attractive people who have never cheated because they aren’t selfish assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:52 PM
2

Keep telling yourself that. Whatever gets you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:50 PM
0

Replace women with “black people” and you’ll hopefully see what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:48 PM
1

Predators hunt for prey. Jobs aren’t people. I have never heard anyone in my life before use “hunting” to describe looking for dates/sex unless they were a sexual predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:02 AM
2

Yeah. I’ve just realized to ignore it. He doesn’t seem mentally well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:44 PM
1

I’m against the sex trade, but you are confusing many things. Sex work is very contentious in feminism and it has been for decades. There is no solid agreement. To say MTGOW is better is ridiculous. MTGOW wishes all women were essentially prostitutes without the payment. They are no better than Johns. It’s all the same mentality. It’s sexual entitlement and not wanting to deal with women as human beings. Also, prostitution rates are lower now across the world than they were before feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:56 AM
2

You’re begging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:50 AM
1

If you want sex, go out and meet someone who actually wants to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:44 AM
2

What’s with the rambling?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:43 AM
1

I don’t want to get pregnant unless Im planning on having children. If I’m having sex before marriage, I’m not taking any risks. Condom, birth control, plan b. Anything and everything. I’m not risking my health just so a guy can feel slightly more aroused for a few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:23 PM
4

Choices aren’t made in a vacuum, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:20 PM
1

Virgins aren’t actually more easy to control, but that is the perception. The only difference between and virgin and a non-virgin is that one hasn’t had a penis in her. Which isn’t exactly a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:18 PM
1

Because then you are a massive hypocrite if you aren’t a virgin yourself. Virgin women aren’t easier to control but that is the perception. Why would someone want to date specifically a virgin? What reason is there to care about someone’s virginity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:17 PM
1

No problem. You weren’t rude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:14 PM
2

I don’t want to validate them. I’m saying it’s wrong to use people for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:23 AM
1

I know it’s a metaphor, but using language like “hunting” is a huge red flag and is explicitly predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:23 AM
1

😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:20 AM
2

Because most of the time, it’s because they want a partner who they believe is easier to control. With the exception of being super religious and a virgin yourself, men with a virgin preference have it because they are hyper-insecure and project that onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:19 AM
3

If your values are bigoted, they will be called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:18 AM
6

It kinda does. If you are just looking to use someone for sex, then you should probably reconsider your intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:13 AM
2

What are these intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:03 AM
1

These are dating profiles and speed dating. These are experiments where dating is based on first impressions which is going to cause people to be immediately judgmental than if people actually developed a natural relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:59 AM
2

I think you might want to talk to some actual women. None of your studies come to the conclusion that women can’t feel love or don’t want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:55 AM
–

Whether or not someone is a virgin shouldn’t matter. That’s my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:52 AM
1

That’s fine. But I commonly refer to myself as Norwegian-American and Irish-American.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:51 AM
–

The statement was absolutist so I was just adding a different perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:50 AM
4

Not just any woman is going to end up in a situation like that. Women who are more vulnerable to abusive relationships tend to be those who are less educated, have less support and have less self-worth. This kind of situation happens with both genders in many life situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:19 PM
–

I’m fine with that statement. But I don’t like OP encouraging people to directly seek virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:06 PM
2

If those pictures are for gauking at, yes I would. It would be kinda creepy even if he wasn’t in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:04 PM
0

If they cheated recently and feel no remorse, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:02 PM
–

So, women aren’t attracted to honest men but are rather attracted to men who falsely portray themselves as honest? You can be honest and tactful at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 07:01 PM
2

Why would someone lie on an anonymous study being conducted by the government? Also, wouldn’t the male virginity rate be much lower too if that was the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:59 PM
2

Some preferences are problematic. A woman wanting a young virgin man is also problematic. It’s fetishizing inexperience. I’m a virgin myself, and guys with virgin preferences gross me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:58 PM
–

Okay. I disagree, but that’s reasonable. Some people don’t have sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:56 PM
–

As a virgin woman, please stop fetishizing us. Stop talking about us like your hunting for deer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:56 PM
–

They are of African decent most likely. I’m a European American despite not being born in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:54 PM
2

As a virgin woman myself, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:52 PM
–

As a virgin myself, I don’t really appreciate your analogies. But I agree that this obsession with virginity is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:52 PM
1

Westernized countries actually wait longer to have sex, because sex with a minor is stigmatized here and it’s not in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:50 PM
–

What is that certain age?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:47 PM
2

I’m a female virgin myself, and my reasoning is just because I haven’t found anyone I want to have sex with. I don’t believe in having sex with people unless I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:46 PM
–

Numbers don’t lie
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:43 PM
–

I think both are dumb but they are motivated by different desires. Wanting a virgin usually indicates you want someone who is malleable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:41 PM
–

Im a virgin woman and I don’t care if a guy is a virgin or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:40 PM
–

Why are you “hunting” for people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:39 PM
2

Physical: Facial Hair. There’s nothing wrong with them but I just am not attracted to men with them. I’ve had an aversion to beards since I was an infant. Also, snoring is a big problem. Non-physical: Being reckless and bad with money. I also value manners is both men and women. Mannerless men are a no-no. Also I can’t stand condescending people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:52 AM
8

I agree with the general idea that young men are struggling in many aspects of life and not many people are trying to help. What I don’t agree with is their interpretation of this being blamed on women and/or feminism. This problem is something men have to figure out, because clinging onto archaic concepts of masculinity is not helpful to them. They need to reform what it means to “be a man” in healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:44 AM
2

Fair. Minorities, regardless of the country, are more likely to be in the sex trade. In South Korea, most prostitutes are Russian or Filipino.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:36 AM
1

That’s just another way of saying “be polite”, which you should probably do with everybody. It’s also more about social roles as opposed to biological roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 05:32 AM
–

Admiring height is literally what both men and women do. To say it’s a woman thing is ridiculous. The taller presidential candidate tends to win. Supermodels have to be tall. Tallness is admired by both men and women equally. A lot of the “general preferences” women have are preferences men also have but it’s just not for romantic interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:01 AM
–

“Tall men” is relative and not valued in every culture. Women are about as similar to one another as Christians or Americans are to one another. Yes, there are social factors that result in us leaning towards some general behaviors. But those behaviors are so general and broad that their only difficult to fathom if you intentionally complicate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:37 AM
7

I agree with this. I only use the “check your personality” when it’s clear the problem is their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:16 AM
–

They will be rocket science if you think all women act the same. Every person, man or woman, is different. Gender is just one of the many genetic aspects that differentiate humans from one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:15 AM
2

That’s not the definition but I don’t disagree with the definition. Not do I really understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:10 AM
2

Single means you aren’t in a romantic/sexual relationship. That certainly applies to me even though I am a conventionally attractive. I’m an adult virgin who has never had a boyfriend. I feel not shame or resentment about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:02 PM
7

The industry itself is misogynistic. That’s why many places are choosing to just criminalize brothels/pimps and/or johns. Imagine if there was an industry where the demographics were mostly black people getting paid by white people to do sex acts for white people’s pleasure. It seems really sus. So, why is it okay when it’s women being paid to serve men? Most women in prostitution don’t want to be there and do it because they lack options. Prostitution would barely exist if systemic misogyny and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:00 PM
1

Only 10% of divorces involve alimony. It’s kinda hard to move up the economic ladder when you are raising a child alone and being the only person making money. Meanwhile, the fathers (unless they are dead or imprisoned) just have to pay some money but otherwise get to dodge all responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:00 AM
1

Most men don’t visit prostitutes, so chances are not likely anyways. You can never know anything for certain about your partner. Some women unknowingly marry serial killers. Trust should be built and you should get to know a person before becoming too serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:50 AM
1

Then, you don’t understand why these men seek prostitutes. The majority of them don’t got just to have sex. They go to reinforce their sexual dominance to themselves. They want to “feel like a man”. If it was just about sex, then a lot more men would be seeing prostitutes. Only about 1% of American men see prostitutes at all regularly. https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/why-do-men-go-to-prostitutes/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/gyxp9w/why-so-many-guys-in-relationships-pay-for-sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:44 AM
1

I think you are confusing what the problem is. When a house only has one parent, then that parent has less time to look after their child, hence that child receives less affection. Additionally, the reason many of these people have single mothers is because the fathers have gone to prison, and the child likely follows in those footsteps. The fact that these people are raised by single mothers is not the cause. Single motherhood and the prison pipeline are caused by similar things such as systemi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:27 AM
1

Yeah. Why do you think feminism is a thing? Also, maybe stuff that is expected of men like military service, shouldn’t be expected of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:39 PM
1

Not clinging to old ideals of masculinity, and learn to accept a world where women are equal to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:11 PM
1

No, because men already make more money. I mean socially catch up. Too many men are still mentally living in the past where women were submissive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:29 PM
1

I’m saying that compared to 50 years ago, women’s roles have evolved more than than men’s have. The inability to evolve their roles is what is why they have less college degrees, higher suicide rates, and many other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:27 PM
1

If it’s for a short term relationship, then fine. Long-term relationships should not keep secrets from each other especially when it’s hiding one’s sexuality. If a woman thinks you are icky because you are bisexual, she’s a bigot and doesn’t deserve you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:16 AM
2

I don’t think anyone are arguing that young men aren’t have some kind of identity crisis right now. The controversy comes about with who or what is causing the crisis. Most of the RedPill argue it’s women and/or feminism. The other side would argue it’s because that society has not given enough men guidance to develop a healthy relationship with their masculinity. Women’s roles have evolved more in the past decades than men’s has. It’s that imbalance that is the problem. RedPill thinks women nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:15 AM
3

Sexually inactive is a decent term. I don’t think there is a requirement to label yourself beyond virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:09 AM
1

Anti-prostitution activists care far more about the safety of prostitutes than the men who purchase prostitution services. Prostitution contributes to the dehumanization of women both inside and outside the industry. It has nothing to do with gatekeeping men. Most men in developed countries don’t visit prostitutes, regardless of whether it’s legal or not. The preferred model among them is the Nordic model where prostitutes themselves aren’t criminalized, but rather pimps and Johns are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:07 AM
1

Men should work on self-improvement. Nobody is without options. I don’t like the idea of sex workers having the responsibility to tame men or essentially function as a sex toy for them. The problem with prostitution is that women have to forgo their own sexual agency and desires to please men. That’s dehumanizing. And men (not all) are to blame for setting that system up and taking advantage of these women instead of helping them. Prostitutes are disproportionately victims of child sexual abuse,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:03 AM
–

You can be insecure, but that’s not an excuse to shame and control others. Some women are insecure about their weight, but that doesn’t give them the excuse to demand others conform to make them feel better about themselves. The chances of you dating a woman who has had sex with 40-50 guys is incredibly small. Most young women never make it to double digits. Panicking about high count women is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:37 AM
2

By your logic, everything should be legal because people are going to do it anyway. Most prostitutes don’t want their jobs and have to be there because of lack of options. There is a reason the majority of prostitution is women serving men. Because the industry is meant to enforce that women are sexually subservient and are there to serve men. In prostitution, demand commands the supply. If men weren’t looking for prostitution, it wouldn’t exist. That’s why it’s almost always the buyer seeking o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:31 AM
3

Except we aren’t talking about electronics. We’re talking about the human body being made into a product.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:25 AM
3

Most people who have sex with prostitutes can easily have sex without paying for it. Many are married and have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:23 AM
3

Except no. The reason there is a connection is because in both situations, the woman lacks sexual agency which is the appeal. I’m not saying having sex with a prostitute is automatically rape, but both are motivated by power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:51 PM
4

How are those male strangers behaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:45 PM
3

I’m conflicted on the legal aspect. But I think the Nordic Model with improvements is my preferred system. That means the purchase of sex is illegal but the sale of it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:44 PM
2

Maybe there is something you need to improve about yourself or change how you present yourself. There is no all-powerful force that curses people to never get laid. I don’t know your life so I can’t comment on why you are haven’t had sex. I think a first step would be to hang out with like-minded people that include women. Just remember that sex is something people do together, not something that a person gives to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:43 PM
3

Gun control and mental health are perfectly good solutions. Prostitution is illegal in tons of places that have little to no gun violence. Iceland is the safest country in the world and both prostitution and porn are illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:32 PM
–

I’m thinking OP and other men like him that complain about women’s standards, have standards of their own and won’t sleep with women they don’t think are hot. That’s fine, but it’s hypocritical of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:16 AM
3

I think it’s the freedom of speech aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:13 AM
–

So prostitutes should become sacrificial lambs so men stop committing violence. That’s pretty sick. Also, tons of school shooters are minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:12 AM
36

Liberal feminists are the ones who support prostitution. Radical feminists are those against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:10 AM
–

Maybe there is a reason women pushed to ban prostitution. It negatively affects the prostitutes who are forced to feign interest in dirty creeps and get treated like objects. Some studies show men who purchase sec have more in common with sex offenders than men who don’t buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:09 AM
–

Sorry, but prostitution solves absolutely nothing. You had sex with a woman who wants nothing to do with you, but you go home as lonely as you were before. Nothing is solved. Also, legalizing a historically misogynistic industry just so some men can have sex, when there are probably women out there willing to do so for free, is pretty worrisome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:06 AM
8

Haven’t women and gay men been historically allied? Drag shows are literally about gay men’s appreciation of women. Almost every gay icon is a straight woman. Also, do you know how many women get turned on by two guys kissing? Ever been to a fanfiction website? I see straight men get far more disgusted with male homosexuality than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:02 AM
1

“F@g” is a slur for gay people and it’s widely seen as such. Slurs against women are just far more normalized than slurs for other groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:10 PM
1

Are you serious? Being a hunter is a choice and has certain behaviors. Being black is just your skin color. You should really be ashamed for making that comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:08 PM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:46 AM
1

But how is this a privilege if only a few women do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:46 AM
1

Again, I don’t hate hunters, I just don’t want to date one. First aid kits don’t kill people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:45 AM
1

The term “hoe” is derived from “whore” and it’s been used for a very long time and wasn’t started by people of color.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:44 AM
1

Doesn’t that apply the opposite way too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:27 PM
3

Younger men and women as a group are having less sex. However, I think young men are more obsessed with sex now because of porn, even if they aren’t having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:28 PM
1

I’m planning on having kids when I find the right man and get married. I want at least 2 but no more than 5 birthed children. I don’t feel the need to change that even with government incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:27 PM
1

I don’t want guns in my home because of moral reasons, not because I’m unstable. Also, not wanting to animals hurt isn’t juvenile, it’s called empathy. Unless there is a good reason like for food or safety, animals should just be left alone and not killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:23 PM
1

I’m not saying it’s good or bad, but “hoe” is a slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:18 PM
1

I don’t know anyone personally who has done this. But I know it has happened and, no, most if any aren’t nuns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:17 PM
0

That’s not how grammar works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:16 PM
1

I know there are women who also poke holes in condoms or deceive a man so she can get pregnant. But that doesn’t really affect my point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:18 AM
1

Yeah, and those men aren’t the majority of men. That’s a whole space for fetishes. Men with fetishes will probably be asked by women with fetishes and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:15 AM
1

That’s kind of sadistic. I hate bugs but I don’t enjoy seeing them dead. Deer have never given me problems and I live in the Midwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:13 AM
1

I actually talk to people. Try pulling up to a random woman asking for sex in exchange for money. Chances are she’ll laugh in your face or be grossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:12 AM
1

I don’t care if a guy is a virgin. I’m a virgin. How does any of this have to do with prostitution? How you have sex with a prostitute is vastly different than having sex without payment. Prostitutes, generally, will have sex out of desperation for money because they are often poor. Most women have no external incentive to sleep with a man outside of sexual desire. Dollar bills isn’t going to get you sex with most women. Being a virgin or not doesn’t make up for a shitty personality. Additionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:56 AM
1

Because it’s sick and creepy. Grooming young men into seeking prostitution makes a messed up situation even more messed up. Not to mention, if they are minors, that’s literally child rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:51 AM
1

Never had one and never will. Also, please use a term other than “hoe”, like promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:49 AM
1

Yeah no. That’s not how the world works. Believe it or not, most men are willing to reject sexual advances especially when it’s a kink they aren’t into.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:48 AM
1

It seems that guys are mostly the ones who want to have sex without a condom. There are men who poke holes in their condoms or never put them in in the first place despite their partners’ insistence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:44 AM
2

That’s perfectly reasonable and I’m in the same boat. Not risking my health and reputation to make you feel marginally more aroused for a few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:40 AM
3

Expects sex by the third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:36 AM
1

That’s one’s more of a personal preference as opposed an objective standard. Seeing dead or injured animals upsets me greatly. I also don’t want guns in my home.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:35 AM
3

It’s not control. I am setting my boundaries. If he doesn’t like them, he can go somewhere else. But I would want to be with a man who understands my problems with porn and shares my perspective. I don’t want the father of my children to be a porn lover. I don’t want that harming how my children will be raised. I am also Christian and want to marry someone with similar beliefs on adultery, and I think deliberately lusting after people who aren’t your partners is a form of adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:02 AM
0

Plus if a lock can only be locked by, say, 50 keys and there are about 4 billion keys to choose from, I’d say that’s still a pretty good lock.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:37 AM
1

Ehh. Fantasy maybe, but not in the way I assume it’s portrayed in porn. But I don’t want it to be a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:34 AM
1

is a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, etc supports the 3rd date rule hates cats and/or dogs likes hunting wasteful with money listens to Andrew Tate unironicaly uses “bitch”, “hoe” or other sexist slurs way too casually lacks emotional intelligence and empathy slut-shames or prude-shames isn’t courteous to children, the elderly, and disabled people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:31 AM
1

They are probably projecting their Middle School fantasies onto a real situation of abuse. That’s why their tune is slightly different when the abuser is a man abusing a boy. Plus the lie that men always want sex. That lie is used to justify sexual violence against males and females.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:25 AM
1

That’s so immature. If that’s your attitude, you might want to stay in your mom’s basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:20 AM
1

That’s just stereotypes. The stereotype that men from fatherless homes are more violent and dangerous has been used to pass racist and cruel criminal legislation. Also, where is the accountability on the father? The single mothers are actually doing their job as a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:18 AM
1

I think a lot of women (and men) just think penises look gross. Vaginas are gross too but they are more hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:12 AM
1

It can be. Its objectification and can easily be turned into an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:00 PM
1

Porn objectifies and dehumanizes women, both on and off camera. I’m not a fan of that. There’s a difference between a man who watches porn and a porn-lover. A man who watches porn is not inherently a bad person or a creep. Just like smokers and alcoholics aren’t not bad people. Men are harmed by porn as well. If I date a man, they’d have to stop watching it especially if it’s for sexual gratification. I don’t want my husband and the father of my children to think it’s okay to watch women be dehu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:30 PM
1

I’m visually stimulated by parts of the body. Shoulders, collarbone, eyes, waist, dare I say, butt. I think less is more. A guy whose sleeve hangs off his elbow than a guy who is half naked or fully naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:23 PM
1

If the younger person pursues, that’s fine. Age gap relationships are fine when the age gap aspect is superfluous to their dynamic. But the OP is describing a situation where older men are intentionally seeking out much younger women because they might have less baggage. He literally describes women who are 30 as crumbs on a plate. It’s absolutely about looking for someone who is naive and still searching for identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:12 PM
0

Also, the motivation to stay could be that they don’t want to abandon their partner just because they have an illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:08 PM
0

Or they don’t want to abandon their partner in a very troubling time. Life-threatening doesn’t mean someone will actually die. Cancer is life threatening but many people survive it, including my mom. And my dad never left her side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:06 PM
1

I don’t think that’s the case. Also, black women are constantly fetishes by people of other races, so I understand the hesitancy. I’ve heard many stories from black women who dated white men and the guy wanted her to call him “master” or some sick stuff. People tend to stick with people in their own ethnic communities not just black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:03 PM
1

Shouldn’t both parties be asked? Women spend a lot more time with women and men spend a lot more time with men. Women talk to each other about things that they wouldn’t with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:00 PM
1

But those women are often fetishized which is just as if not worse than being ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:58 PM
1

But actions have motivations and actions get misinterpreted all the time. It’s called perception. That’s why witness testimony isn’t the best evidence in a court case. You are also just making assumptions of an entire gender based on personal observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:04 AM
1

Why ask anyone anything, then? People are also more likely to have false impressions of the other side with unconscious biases. Do you think it’s better to ask a white person what it’s like being black than a black person?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:54 AM
1

Height and ethnicity affect women as well. Women who are too tall or too short get made fun of. Black women struggle in staying because of racism. Not to mention breast size, weight and figure are far more important for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:51 AM
0

Wouldn’t a serious diagnosis be a financial issue for most couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:48 AM
-1

It’s your kids’ job to take care of you in old age, not your spouse’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:47 AM
1

I feel like looking at this from a financial perspective, because I don’t think that’s why it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:46 AM
1

I think the RedPill has just demonstrated how delusional and difficult some men can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:44 AM
12

Not everyone shows their true selves at first and not everyone has the resources or support to get out of a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:52 AM
1

It’s controlling. You want to get with a woman before she forms an identity, ergo she develops and identity on your terms. That’s creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:51 AM
1

Maybe the fathers should stop being trash people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:49 AM
2

If you cheated, be honest and deal with the consequences. The longer you wait, the more it will hurt your partner when they find out. If this was before the relationship, it’s probably best to share. Honesty is essential in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:59 AM
4

Most women aren’t doing casual sex tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:55 AM
1

People shouldn’t try to make conversation with strangers on the street. That’s creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:54 AM
2

Thats irrelevant to my point. My point was that a small amount of men aren’t hoarding most of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:53 AM
1

Isn’t that what the “being tied down” part is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:19 PM
1

There are tons of places and occasions to talk to women that aren’t involving catcalling. If someone is just walking down the street, minding their own business, it’s best to not bother them, because to try and hit on them is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:13 PM
1

Or there are tons of men who don’t approach and catcall random women on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:04 PM
1

They are getting ignored, because women are more scared of reaction to a rejection. Giving them attention will just make them think they can go further.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:02 PM
3

If they are genuinely asking for help with something or just asking a quick question, it would be nice to answer. This goes for both men and women. But if they are trying to start a up conversation or follow you, then you can ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:55 PM
1

Where was that ever said?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:53 PM
1

There are plenty of men raised by single mothers who are perfectly great, kind people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:52 PM
1

He has a fragile ego. A lot of men feel very entitled to female attention. They feel they are owed it 24/7 and they don’t have to be respectful or courteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:51 PM
1

I won’t date him at all. I only want a fully monogamous relationship. However, I do appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:47 PM
1

Most married people don’t cheat and when they do, men and women cheat at about the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:46 PM
2

Can you all just pick one fake statistic and roll with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:45 PM
3

I think when she says better, she means easier for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:43 PM
1

But the point is that a small group of men aren’t getting all the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:40 PM
2

It’s kind of a rude thing to ask. Imagine your friend asking you what can you bring to the table if we are friends. It’s also irrelevant, because actions speak louder than words. They can say they bring such and such, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:38 PM
1

Probably. If I’m dating women, I’d have a unique insight that other men won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:38 AM
1

Or octopuses where the male dies after having sex for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:35 AM
1

No. I’m on my third year I college and I’ve never come across any indication promiscuity was a thing. I’m sure it happens but usually at the frats/sororities. I shared a room with 4 girls and I only saw a boy in there once and they were just leaving for a date. There is nothing wrong with being a virgin at any age. I am actually also 20 years old and a virgin. Social media makes things seem more extreme than they are. Kind of like how crime has been decreasing for decades but people think it’s g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:31 AM
0

I think the problem is when these rock stars never grow up and continuous go for young women. There is also a long history of rock stars being with underage girls. Drugs and alcohol are also common in that environment. It also depends on who is the initiator. If these rock stars are deliberately seeking out girls of a certain age, that is predatory. It’s been less bad since the grunge era of rock. It would be equally predatory if a woman was doing this to young male fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:25 AM
2

No. Cheating is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:17 AM
1

If it’s an attraction to someone for having less life experience, that’s strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:16 AM
1

What if someone used to be fat and had since lost weight? What if someone used to sleep around but has since not done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:07 PM
3

There are plenty of other communities that promote similar things but don’t have the toxic elements. Most dangerous organizations have positive sides because that’s what initially attracts people. Once men are on board with the moderate stuff, then they start getting fed more extreme things which hurts them and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:56 AM
1

Can men be whores? Also, whores is a slur with a heavily negative connotation. I don’t see anything super wrong about having more sex than the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:52 AM
1

Nobody can control the average body count. Do you expect people to research the statistics before having sex? If they meet the average, are they just supposed to be like “oh well, guess I shouldn’t have sex anymore”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:43 AM
1

They are looked down upon. I completely agree that sugar daddy stuff can come off as elder abuse. However, most sugar daddy situations I’ve seen are not with extremely old men and the sugar baby is often getting mistreated and degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:25 AM
1

Plenty of men say no to sex with average-looking women. Men aren’t idiots who only think with their sex organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:19 AM
1

Chimps also rip each other’s balls off and kill babies. Bonobos are just as closely related to us and are very peaceful and have the opposite approach. I’m not saying the advice here is bad, but the idea of befriending women isn’t either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:07 PM
1

Same can go for a woman. The idea that the average woman can walk up to a man and ask for sex and receive it immediately is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:32 PM
0

No, but he’s calling any woman who has had sex a used woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:30 PM
1

No, she is sexually harassing them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:23 PM
1

So the world revolves around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:22 PM
0

Sure. I am a virgin, but even if I wasn’t, judging someone based on the amount of sexual partners they had, unless it’s like the triple digits is stupid. I have no preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:18 AM
1

I think there is an element of a desire to control and possibly light pedophilia with men who want virgins. Just like men who like super skinny, pr pubescent looking women or women with no pubic hair. Most virgin girls are underage or just out of High School. I’m a virgin myself, and I find this preference to be a massive red flag. It’s very fetishizing and disrespectful. Being a young virgin doesn’t indicate anything about your personality or sexuality. I am far more open about my sexuality tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:17 AM
1

So, your mom is a used woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:11 AM
1

Muscles tighten and sweating. Not in a sexual sense. I have social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:10 AM
1

That’s a very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:08 AM
1

The draft isn’t used anymore (a lot of men don’t even know they are on it) and it was anti-feminists who fought against women being on the draft. Finances and your bodily autonomy are different issues. Any decision a woman makes will have some consequence, whether that be shame/trauma from an abortion, horrible pain from birth, or the stress of motherhood. I think both sides of this debate have valid points. It’s not so cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:08 AM
3

If a woman lies about taking birth control, then a man should have full rights to not help raise the child. That is actually a form of sexual violence and illegal in many places. This goes if a man pokes holes in a condom or something. If it was something they had full control over and was done in a consensual environment, then there can be a proper debate. Women don’t have abortion rights in most places, so required child support, in my opinion, should be in place. I’m conflicted in ways, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:03 AM
1

If you open your legs to random men, we call that sexual harassment. How about money? If someone is from a wealthy family, is that unfair to people who aren’t? Should the person from the wealthy family live on the streets to make it “fair”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:56 AM
1

I do agree having less sex partners is better, but I also don’t think shaming people for making different decisions, especially when it’s only one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:54 AM
1

Why do you seem to justify men getting prostitution services, yet insult the prostitutes themselves with slurs? Most prostitutes don’t make much. They barely make more than a cash register if the money isn’t already taken by a pimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:52 AM
1

It’s not. But it’s not for a man either
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:49 AM
6

Wants and loves children and animals Religious in some way, preferably Christian Wants a lifelong monogamous relationship I fit into all of these. Unless there is something that literally can’t apply to me because I’m a girl, I don’t make requirements that I myself don’t fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:28 PM
1

Someone isn’t getting laid and is super jealous of those who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:24 PM
1

Did you not understand my comment? My comment had nothing to do with the wage gap. My comment was criticizing the idea that just because someone has more of something, means that it’s unfair to the people who have less. Before you go on an anti-feminist rant, please understand what you are responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:21 PM
1

Nobody has to pay for sex. You can live without it. Creepy men created the demand and underprivileged women have to supply it to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:19 PM
1

Women aren’t in charge of the porn industry. Onlyfans girls don’t make much if at all and the site is still owned by men. Most women in these professions are broke, so they have to let go of their own boundaries to please men in order to live. That’s not a real choice. Also, demand affects supply. Prostitution of women only exists because some men treat sex like a product and that women should be given to them. Most men who pay for this stuff are already in relationships. They just don’t want wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:26 AM
13

Consensual, safe sex doesn’t have too either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:04 AM
1

She was an avid supporter of NAMBLA for decades.
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 07:24 AM
1

What is a high “body count” (sick term)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:17 AM
1

Most men don’t care about this stuff. She doesn’t have to conform to anything just because it hurts your fragile feelings. Imagine using this logic in any other aspect of life. The man can’t make more money because that’s unfair to the woman. See how stupid that sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:17 AM
1

How is sleeping with more than one man being a whore? “Whore” is also subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:22 AM
1

It’s always been that way. The strict divide between masculinity and femininity is actually a relatively recent phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:22 AM
1

Why would you care so much if your wife was with other men in the past unless you want to feel some kind of possession of her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:21 AM
1

Your literally envious because she’s has a better sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:34 AM
6

So it was just a number pulled out of someone’s ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:14 AM
1

You can have both masculine and feminine aspects at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:13 AM
1

Let’s pretend this notion that sex is so easy for women is accurate. So what? Should basketball associations not hire tall people, because it’s unfair to short people? This is literally the definition of envy. Because you can’t or don’t want to try to do something, then anyone who can should be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:09 AM
1

You can know if a non-virgin has STDs. Get a test.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:06 AM
1

Lol. It is not a woman-led industry. It’s one of the furthest things from one. Most porn is manufactured by men. Most of the people with actual power in the sex industries are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:06 AM
8

It’s harder for women to push off an older man, because they are older and we are taught to revere to older people. I’m talking much older men like decades older. The age isn’t what makes harassment wrong but it can make it a more difficult situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:23 PM
1

This is important, only if you are planning of having sex with that person. Get STD checks too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:18 PM
1

Being a man = higher chance you will be a criminal ≠ I’m going to avoid and trash men in general because of that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:15 PM
1

I am a virgin, so I personally have nothing to gain from my position. You should absolutely get std tests before having sex. Even virgins can have STDs. That’s called being a responsible adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:13 PM
1

Only in porn, which is where, I’m guessing, your understanding of women comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:10 PM
1

It is because you are arguing a causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:39 AM
1

Sure. If he’s a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:38 AM
1

It’s equally stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:37 AM
1

Most women aren’t promiscuous. Most women don’t desire casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:36 AM
2

Sure, Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:35 AM
1

It’s possessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:34 AM
1

Thats probably far more to do with the lying part than the n count part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:33 AM
1

I’ve read countless posts from women who were abused by people who share a common trait, they are men. That doesn’t mean all men are inherently dangerous or harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:31 AM
1

Get an STD test. Pair bonding doesn’t have to be done through sex and not all sex is pairbonding. You can also stop pairbonding with someone and change a pair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:27 AM
0

Agreed and this is coming from a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:26 AM
2

I think you are reversing the process. Some women lie about n count because men desire virginity or lack of sexual experience. Not the other way around. As a virgin myself, desiring a virgin is creepy and most men would likely agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:25 AM
7

Hymens aren’t related to virginity. You can lose your hymen from horseback riding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:24 AM
2

He might want to do what he can to lower his sex drive. Being hyper-sexual is can be damaging to someone and might be indicative of an underlying problem. I would see a therapist and reduce things like porn and alcohol consumption. This is only for hyper-sexual people who really struggle to make it past a week or so without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:07 AM
6

You are sharing someone’s germs by being in the same room as them or touching them. How can you even go outside if you are so germaphobic? You clearly no nothing about the human body, let alone the female body.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:03 AM
2

That’s nonsense. The average n count for a woman in a lifetime is like 4 to 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:02 AM
5

Creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:03 AM
1

No because that has bacteria that shouldn’t be there. Sex is something that is natural, so the body has ways of handling bacteria from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:02 AM
2

It is because you are accusing women of playing hard to get, when they just aren’t interested in you. You are trying to manipulate the situation to make others think they want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:52 AM
1

So a bunch of stereotypes and pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:51 AM
1

Again, everybody is covered in other people’s germs. Will you stop having sex with a woman if she has a baby, because she’s got fetus germs? Will you not kiss a girl who has kissed other people? Will you not touch a girl who has touched other people? There are also these things called condoms. The vagina is self-cleaning and will do away with germs. Women discharge regularly which is where semen and other germs leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:51 AM
1

Why do you prefer virgins? There’s nothing different about them other than they haven’t had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:43 AM
1

It is. Because it’s gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:41 AM
1

Cause I don’t want a sexist man in my life. A guy obsessed with age and n count sounds potentially abusive and controlling. As a young virgin myself, it’s not a compliment to be fetishized, especially when other women are getting put down for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:40 AM
1

There’s this thing called hygiene and washing. If you aren’t a fan of being exposed to germs, then you should stay at home indefinitely. Everything you touch has traces of other people’s germs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:37 AM
1

There are plenty of women who have suffered through that. Clearly thousands of women want that power and are putting their lives on the line. They make up over a fifth of Ukraine’s military. Traditionally, it’s been men and anti-feminists who have been keeping women from serving. The ERA would have resulted in women being on the draft but anti-feminists prevented that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:42 AM
1

Men and women share the majority of identical DNA. Gender is one of many aspects of our DNA. I biologically have far more in common with my dad and male cousins than I do with a woman in India. Imagine separating people like this based on one genetic difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:20 AM
1

There are thousands of women volunteering in the fight. Russia and Ukraine aren’t super feminist societies, like someone said, so what’s your point. War is more than just being a soldier. What’s happening in Ukraine is a total war, ergo everybody in Ukraine is in equal danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:17 AM
1

I wouldn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:14 AM
2

Why would someone want to get into a relationship with random people? That’s not a privilege. It’s not even true. Anyone can get into a relationship if they try enough regardless of gender. By the way, those boys that hung out with us are doing very well with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:34 PM
1

I’m sure it’s a mix of the media and some people who struggle with inter-personal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:30 PM
1

I suppose it’s up to the person. I connect it completely. I won’t have sex with someone I don’t love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:38 AM
1

I wish it were and it should be, but a lot of people don’t have that dynamic. In my personal, sex will always be equal. Money and sex should be kept as far away from each other as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:20 AM
1

Why should adolescent males be having sex? They should do it when they are adults. There a lot of ableist people out there, men and women. In Elementary school, the autistic kids hung out with us girls, because most of the boys bullied them. I don’t have autism, but I have a lot of autism symptoms, and I’ve never been in a relationship (I’m 20). I think it’s more that the symptoms of autism make it difficult to even get into a situation to date. I’m sure that’s even harder for men because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:47 AM
1

I agree. Don’t degrade people for their looks. I don’t like specific height preferences. If your going to have one, make it vague. Short men often have preferences for shorter women. I would also say the the constant telling to men that they aren’t attractive to women because of their height, creates a self fulfilling prophecy. Women don’t care about height or appearance as much as the RedPill makes it out to be, just like how men don’t care as much about n count as the RedPill makes it seem. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:36 AM
0

I guess person A, but only because there is no mention of a psychological disorder. Someone’s parent being a murderer doesn’t necessarily reflect what their child is like. If a psychological disorder is what caused or influenced his violence, the Person B.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:59 PM
3

I think, if there is a connection, I think it’s the other way around. Women who ties their self-worth to men are more likely to be used by them and are also more likely to post thirst traps to please those men. I also think it’s more about how a person is framed as opposed to the clothing. A girl in a bikini at a pool is not inherently using their body for attention. However, if the focal point of a photo is her butt and boobs, then that can be seen as seeking attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:57 PM
9

A promiscuous man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:51 PM
1

As a woman, I do. I think dating is way too complicated and emotional to turn into a basic market exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:34 AM
1

Not much. My dad is a good guy who never belittled me. I guess I had a good male role model in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:33 AM
1

Yes, it’s harmful to women. Please don’t ramble about how men and women are different, blah blah blah. Being a little different doesn’t mean there are different moral standards. It can also harm men because that same slut shaming culture often turns around and virgin shames men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:08 AM
1

They aren’t inherently correlated, but the point you bring up isn’t what is happening here. Women have an average of 4-6 sex partners in a lifetime. No need to be condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:29 PM
1

This isn’t 0.1% of men and women aren’t having sex with hundreds of men. So your point is kinda moot. Redpillers are always complaining that women are just giving themselves up too much, when clearly they are many men they are choosing not to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:40 PM
2

I’m going to finish my education first (20 month program), before dating. I am conventionally attractive and thin, but I also have really bad social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:17 AM
14

It negatively affects women too. Like with body image and can instill a fear of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:16 AM
1

I think when they say porn isn’t realistic, they mean most humans will not react to certain actions in a similar way. If you slap a woman during sex, she’s probably going to be pissed, not turned on. An ICE guard have sex with an detained undocumented immigrant (yes this is a real porn thing) isn’t consensual. Also, the actors are on drugs and stimulants that keep them aroused. I think a better term would be that it is unhealthy as opposed to unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:15 AM
1

I think the big problem is that porn is a business. When sex and money meet, nothing good comes from it. Porn is so saturated where porn studios are competing with random web users. Because of that, both sides are going to more extreme levels to get views. If all porn portrayed consensual, healthy, and safe sex, it wouldn’t make as much money because it wouldn’t have the dopamine effect. The porn industry also relies on minors, especially boys,to watch their content. It isn’t just an unfortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:11 AM
1

I can agree to that. Especially dating apps. They have a severe gender imbalance which gives some men the idea that they aren’t wanted, when it’s really just a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:00 AM
1

Because, most of the time, the preference is based in really harmful stereotypes and beliefs. Based on the justifications I’ve seen on this subreddit, most only hold women to this standard and they view it as a objective moral failure, not just a personal preference. The only time it doesn’t come off as bigoted is for really religious men who think both genders should be pure before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:59 AM
2

I think there’s a difference between uplifting yourself by complimenting yourself and uplifting yourself by trying to be superior to others. It’s the difference between confidence and arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:54 AM
1

Then they should be happy about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:16 AM
1

Even if it’s “accessed” by 100 people, that still isn’t easily accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:37 PM
1

I agree. But I’ve don’t have those standards, so I can criticize away. I haven’t seen many women with those standards either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:36 PM
1

Very true. Also, I thought Redpillers wanted women to have sex with less men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:23 PM
1

I thought redpillers wanted women to sleep with less men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:23 PM
1

I’m not saying all age gap relationships are bad. My problem is when much older men/women DELIBERATELY seek out much younger women/men. My problem is when the age gap is what’s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:02 PM
3

Thanks for giving me better context. I agree men crying becomes a meme way too much. That’s what my original post was about. However, I think the reason Peterson’s became a meme is because he continuously promotes traditional rigid masculinity, so it’s more about the contrast. But I think it would be better to just criticize his ideas as opposed to his emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:00 PM
1

Equal partnership means people have equal authority and autonomy within the relationship. It’s doesn’t mean every aspect of each person’s life has to be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:56 PM
1

Let those young women live their young lives without having to worry about older guys creeping on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:46 PM
1

There are tons of equal relationships. They are called “partners” for a reason. Why can’t a woman in her 30s do those things? Humans aren’t done adapting and changing in their 20s. You literally have a preference for women whose brains aren’t fully developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:15 PM
1

Coachable: “capable of being easily taught and trained to do something better” That’s groomer logic. You aren’t looking for an equal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:06 PM
1

Will Smith smacked a guy. Jordan Peterson made a cringy video raging because he got banned for being a bigot. Neither of these are healthy ways to express vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:03 PM
0

It’s not misandrist. This logic applies to women seeking much younger men too. I have no problem with age gaps. The problem is when an older person is deliberately seeking out much younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:59 PM
1

It is. You are talking about these girls as if they are pets and need to be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:58 PM
1

Your analogy has to make sense. Defending a black person is very different than defending men who are into much younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:57 PM
1

I think many stigmas around men need to be changed. It shouldn’t be looked down upon for men who want to seek aid for their issues whether that’s health-wise or financial-wise. Both women and men are complicit in this stigma. I think some women lack self-awareness and feel entitled to be mean to others. Height shaming or attacking men because of their appearance is wrong and bullying. As someone with social anxiety myself, I can relate to how hard it is to connect with others. I think some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:45 AM
0

There are different stages of adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:33 AM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:31 AM
1

That’s literally abuser logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:30 AM
3

I’m 20 and I think it’s gross
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:27 AM
1

Yeah. I agree. To me, the motivation is what’s most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:27 AM
1

I don’t agree with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:26 AM
1

But why would a man in his 50s want to pursue a woman in her 20s? What reason is there for that unless they want to have some kind of control?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:25 AM
1

Are you seriously comparing being a black person to liking much younger girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:23 AM
1

To me the ethical issue is whether the relationships exists because of or in spite of an age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:20 AM
1

I think it’s more that they are getting caught more often and there is more awareness about female sexual predators. Still the number of female sexual predators is very small compared to male predators regardless of the victims’ gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:19 AM
1

Ewww. There was a pregnant five year old. What is this logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:14 AM
1

I think you are begging the question. Its difficult to confirm whether much of human behavior is biological because we are so influenced by our surroundings and culture. It’s difficult to determine the extent in which hormones differentiate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:12 AM
7

The age gap itself is not the problem. It’s when the age gap is what’s attractive the older person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:00 PM
1

I wouldn’t care. There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin at any age. Before looking for a partner, I would suggest putting your life together first with regards to your job and financial situation. I think someone should have a secure life before seeking a relationship. Learn how to be smart with money. Take online financial classes or seek financial advice from a professional. My financial math teacher told me that making money is 80% behavior and 20% math. Join a club or attend local social …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:09 AM
1

Hannibal - 6: I like the guy but I am religious and want to be with someone who is also religious. Depp - now 4 - then 6: He’s a bit too old for me and has a lot of substance abuse issues. He has a lot of charisma and an interesting personality, but not the kind I would date. Riff Raff - 3: seems to have a sense of humor and charisma, but I don’t find him attractive at all and seems too materialistic. Plus might be bad with money based on the car. Druski - 3: seems like a funny guy, but inattent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:08 AM
1

The difference is that deadbeat fathers are avoiding responsibility for a commitment they made. Choosing to get married and choosing to have kids is a commitment. Same should apply to neglectful mothers. People don’t have a commitment to a certain number of sex partners. Let’s pretend it is actually so much easier for women to get sex, tho it isn’t. Should people who are good at music not to become musicians because it’s hard for other people? What logic is that? Just because women are better at…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:59 AM
1

There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging the different between genders. The problem is when the genders are treated as different species and are expected to exist on different levels of morality based on that. You are using pseudo-biology and pseudo-history to explain why you believe you shouldn’t be held to the same standards as women. Everything biological about us derives from our ape ancestors, so ignoring that harms your case. If you want to play the biology card, which is the naturalistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:55 PM
3

Women are not as picky as you make them out to be, especially no more than men are. Women aren’t clones. They are attracted to different things. If you don’t fit one woman’s standards, there are millions of others out there that you might.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:02 AM
1

What’s the point of debating someone with a very obvious bigotry? This is like trying to speak logically to a white supremacist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:59 AM
1

And it’s damaged an entire generation of men and boys. Are you part of the RedPill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:51 PM
0

Honestly, just say you hate women. I’d have more respect for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:09 AM
6

First, I would say women make up nearly half of all gamers today. I’ve been gaming for over a decade since I was a little girl. I think the reason it’s been considered a boy’s thing is because it’s been catered to boys and games are often made with boys in mind. The gaming community also has a (somewhat accurate) reputation for being misogynistic. This same stuff can apply to comic books and superheroes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:07 AM
15

Because it’s math and math is hard. All jokes aside, I totally agree with you. Women are obviously going for the top 20% of men on dating apps, because that 20% is about equal to how many women as a whole are on dating apps. Unless they want women dating many men at a time, most aren’t going to be successful on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:05 AM
1

The problem is most schools don’t teach consent or basic manners either. The school puts in the academic stuff while it’s the parents’ job to fill in the rest. The problem isn’t so much that men are just bad at sex. It’s that many are actively bad and abusive. Nonconsensual spitting, choking, and slapping during sex have been on the rise because of porn. There are non pornographic ways to learn about sex. Wikipedia is probably a better source than porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:02 AM
3

It’s just the reality of why it exists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:20 PM
6

But that is how many boys are introduced to sex. So it becomes unofficial sex education. Places with better sex education actually have lower porn consumption rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 10:25 AM
1

People who think there is a point where it’s weird aren’t worth much attention. They are judgmental and might be jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:19 AM
1

I have a lot of social anxiety, which inhibits my ability to make friends in general. I’m also waiting to finish my education before I start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:17 AM
1

Your only 21. I wouldn’t make big decisions about having kids or not until you are in your 30s at least. You also have plenty of time to have a partner, if you want one. I think a parent, single or not, should be able to provide financially and emotionally for their child. If that is covered, a man can absolutely raise a child on his own. There are many great single fathers out there. However, I think adoption is a better choice than surrogacy. The commercial surrogacy industry can be quite expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:15 AM
2

I think this issue is something that can’t be solved by any kind of gender politics. I am a girl with social anxiety. I basically haven’t had a friend outside of my family in years. I think genuine communication coaches and advice can be helpful. I think Charisma on Command and Max Beaumont are good channels for communication that actually give advice without it being toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:11 AM
0

I think it’s the ability to understand women or their partners. Most successful men are genuinely empathetic to women and want to be good partners. Some men use their knowledge of women to manipulate, which is how abusive relationships emerge. It’s not because women are attracted to bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:07 AM
1

It’s a tragic cycle. Schools fail to provide proper sex education, which leads to boys using porn from a young age to learn about sex, which gives them an abusive, male-dominated view of sex, which makes them bad at sex, which makes women not like sex, which leads to people not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:05 AM
1

Delude yourself into thinking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:01 AM
1

Mate guarding isn’t slut shaming. I’ll tell you the reason these “standards” exist. It’s a form of control. Controlling women’s sexuality helps men maintain power over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:00 AM
1

Lack of men holding themselves accountable has led to fatherless homes. In some countries, girls get their vaginas cut up as children to prevent them from being “slutty”. In some countries, it’s completely acceptable to murder your daughter if she is deemed too slutty. No, it’s not natural. Jealousy is natural, but slut-shaming isn’t. The earliest humans didn’t give a crap about n count, neither do any other apes. You don’t see bonobos giving virginity examinations to their daughters. Slut shami…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:57 AM
1

Pretty sure slut shaming is a human invention. You don’t see chimps making purity rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:07 PM
1

The violent crime rate and most wars would say different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:48 PM
1

I’m not saying the journal is bias, but rather the people they are observing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:47 PM
1

Just because you have feelings doesn’t mean those feelings are justified. When your feelings are being weaponized to shame and belittle people, then I stop feeling any sympathy. It’s not even inconvenient to me, because I’m a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:46 PM
1

What if someone was promiscuous 5 years ago, but had since stopped? I also think there is a conflation between causation and correlation. A person with more liberal attitudes on sex is more likely to be promiscuous and see less problem with cheating, than someone with more conservative views on sex. I don’t think promiscuity causes infidelity, but rather a certain understanding of sex can possibly result in cheating and someone being promiscuous, but not necessarily both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:24 AM
1

Caring about infidelity is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:21 AM
1

It’s fine to have different ways of analyzing. But the idea of the sexual marketplace is very controversial and is more of a reflection of people’s biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:20 AM
2

I agree. It’s unsettling. I’m a Christian, and I do believe watching porn for sexual arousal is cheating. It has little to do with jealousy and more to do with that almost all porn sexually objectifies women. I don’t want to be with a man who thinks that is acceptable. If I ever find out my partner is watching porn, I’d reference them to a therapist because it’s not healthy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling this way. Don’t let other people invalidate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:45 AM
1

I said “some”. That’s the most reasonable explanation that can be given, though people’s values can change over time. If someone was promiscuous 5-10 years ago, but has given up promiscuity since, does that still matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:41 AM
1

Because it’s hypocritical and sexist. This is about behavior, not biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:39 AM
2

I never said that. I’m saying past promiscuity is not a solid enough basis to think someone will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:37 AM
1

There is no amount of sex people “should be” having. People have their boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:36 AM
1

I think there are many other factors that go into determining whether someone will cheat than if they were promiscuous in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:35 AM
1

How else do you interpret the comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:34 AM
1

That’s only if you believe in the sexual marketplace. Sex and relationships are far more complicated than a market exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:34 AM
1

That’s why I said “some”. Generally, it’s from insecurity at best and a desire to control women at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:31 AM
1

Yes, it’s a construct, but RedPillers portray slut shaming as if it’s natural and biological. Slut shaming has actually contributed to millions of deaths from murder to suicide of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:29 AM
1

That’s fair. But what counts as a lot of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:25 AM
-3

Okay. Dating apps work sometimes and men make up the majority of users. Also, you can be a virgin and have that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:18 AM
1

You have a risk on being cheated on with anybody. If you don’t have enough trust in your partner, you shouldn’t be with them, promiscuous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:03 AM
1

What would you consider a promiscuous woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:02 AM
1

I would say (some) men say they hate promiscuous women, but what they really hate is being left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:48 AM
2

These subreddits probably aren’t the most accurate representation of most women in dating. Just like how the RedPill isn’t an accurate representation of most men in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:46 AM
1

The problem is you are viewing some things from a modern perspective. Fighting in war is considered a great risk now, but for most of history, it was the greatest honor one could achieve. Women are barred from combat because they were considered inferior. If you took a man and a woman in the exact same class, race, job, sexuality, in general, the woman will be treated with less respect. It actually seems like you are advocating for intersectional feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:44 AM
1

Women get slutshamed regardless of whether they are “sluts”. I’ve been slutshamed and I haven’t even kissed a guy, let alone have sex with one. Most women don’t have sex partners in the double digits and most men don’t care unless they have an obsession with controlling women. Being a “slut” is a completely made up construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:39 AM
1

I think it’s bad to be fully dependent on anyone unless you are severely mentally disabled, a child, or elderly. You never know who will fail you or take advantage of you. Some dependence is necessary, but men and women need to learn to stand on their own two feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:16 AM
12

Yes. There is a general truth that some guys need to know. People, including most women, don’t want to see your penis. Even in the case someone asks, don’t do it because it could haunt you later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:13 AM
3

No. I personally would wait a while to have sex. We’d be comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:11 AM
1

Because the former can be used as a form of control. Slut-shaming is used as a way to punish women for being sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:10 AM
1

Women are historically subjugated. That’s basic knowledge. Women have been generally barred from education, jobs, and basically anything outside of the home for most of history. Men have never had to advocate for basic rights just because they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:09 AM
1

The problem is that these are different standards and preferences. A woman with a virgin preference is just as backwards as a man with a virgin preference. A man with a height preference is about as shallow, yet harmless as a woman with a height preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:08 PM
1

I can agree with that to an extent. I’m just saying why some women might not want that if they are qualified for the more prestigious, male dominated groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 06:06 PM
1

What’s your point? The Boy Scouts are even more corrupt in many ways with a lot of child molestation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:32 AM
1

You shouldn’t take anyone at 100% value, but listening to them is kinda important. If you don’t care what women think, you shouldn’t be trying to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:31 AM
1

I think I’d have a better idea of what women desire. Women talk to each other about things that we don’t talk to men about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:29 AM
1

And what if a woman meets the entry barriers of the mens group with the exception of her gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:28 AM
1

Because those male dominated groups tend to have more power and influence. The Boy Scouts are far more appreciated than the Girl Scouts (coming from a former Girl Scout). Boy Scouts get presidential speeches and do prestigious ceremonies. If male and female groups had equal influence and power, then this problem would likely not arise. There is also questions as to how much segregated gender groups should be participated in. Just look at how toxic fraternities and sororities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:15 AM
1

No. I’m talking about how MRAs abuse these statistics without going into the specifics of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:03 AM
1

I guess person A. Being able to not worry about cheating would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:43 AM
1

Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:41 AM
1

But men and women are both the ones dating. Some people are good at dating. Some aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:40 AM
1

Having a lot of sex partners isn’t, in it of itself, something I care about. I care more about how he treated them, whether he thinks of women as objects and whether he is willing to commit to a monogamous long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:10 AM
1

The customer is always right. They decide what becomes successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:06 AM
1

Do you want more men to get hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:03 AM
1

When you can’t make an argument, use sexist stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:37 PM
2

It’s not. It’s just when they don’t acknowledge the differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:36 PM
1

It’s the degrees of abuse. Women are more likely to be killed, worry for their life, sexually assaulted, and seriously injured.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:22 PM
1

I don’t think the OP was talking about science experiments. This concept could also apply to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:57 PM
1

Not if it’s done from good intentions and doesn’t come with other RedPill talking points. The statistic is true in some ways, but it’s often used without context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:52 PM
0

Yeah, and many of those involve asking what peoplethink.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:40 PM
-4

Except cars are objects owned by humans. Are you implying that men should own and sell women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:00 AM
1

My point was that you can’t observe human motivations and thoughts by looking at them like zoo animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:59 AM
1

Don’t you have to know why they are doing things? We aren’t zoo animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:47 AM
1

I view role models as people to take influence from, not to copy exactly. I would say my mom is my main role model tho we have out differences. As for public figures, I really admire glamorous, yet rebellious women, like Marilyn Monroe and Clara Bow. For more modern figures, Sana and Jihyo from the girl group Twice, Yuqi from (G)I-dle, Amy Lee from Evanescence, Lady Gaga, plus political figures like Elizabeth Warren.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:56 AM
1

None. I plan with only being with one man and I haven’t found that man yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:50 AM
1

Maintaining feminism and helping men are not mutually exclusive. Also, not all women are feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:49 AM
1

So, your strategy for men getting women is to completely ignore what those women think? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:59 PM
1

If it’s shouting in an inappropriate time, I’d take it as a warning, but I’d wait to see if it is a repeating pattern. Shouting in an argument or in an incredibly high-stress situation, can be forgiven. I think shouting crosses the line into immediate deal breaker when it’s done as a way to intimidate. If a guy gets up in my face and yells at me, I’m never associating with him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:43 AM
2

Yeah, we’d live in a dystopia
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 06:38 AM
9

It’s the desire to want to have connections with men that aren’t romantic/sexual. We want to be able to have friends without worrying that we aren’t on the same page. I’m not criticizing men for being attracted to a girl, but that’s why women generally don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:21 AM
1

As people pointed out, these characters are loved by men and women, just in somewhat different ways. The thing about fiction is that it allows us to see things from a different perspective without the worry of real world consequences. It can help us find the humanity in what seems inhumane. This kind of radical empathy for bad people can’t really exist in the real world, because it’s dangerous. I also think there is an element of women trying to process their fear of men and relationships throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:08 AM
0

Casual, everyday sexism is exhausting. Being talked down to, seeing sexually objectifying imagery, and having concerns be dismissed really take a toll on your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:02 AM
4

I sympathize with the pressure to be the one to ask the girl out. As someone with social anxiety, I get it. Women can contribute to harmful beliefs on relationships as much as men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:00 AM
2

Woman here. I’ve never watched it. Closest is when it appears as an ad or something, which I then do my best to not look and click off the site. It’s just really grosses me out. Most porn is very misogynistic and I don’t like the idea of watching people have sex. I am not asexual by any means but porn often portrays such an unappealing and degrading form of sex. I wish you luck in your journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:47 AM
1

Sure. We would be in about the same position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:06 AM
1

I think those rules are messed up as well, but they aren’t really used anymore and they were rules made by men. Nobody needs to enact violence, especially not in self defense. Women are more likely to be killed by someone they know, which means we often aren’t safe even in our own homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:49 AM
1

That’s fair. If he’s not catching on, try a different approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:09 AM
3

To some men, it is. I’d say about equal amounts of men and women are perfectly fine dating people who are taken. I don’t see any reason as to why women do it more often. Additionally, let’s not forget to hold the person who is cheating equally, if not more accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:08 AM
4

I’m sure you could say that about every cult leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:14 PM
1

I don’t know about that. There are a decent amount of men who brag about getting “your girl” as a cringy power move.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:12 PM
1

Literally everything he’s ever said
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:10 PM
1

Why did this OP specifically use “Tyrone”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:21 AM
3

They are special because they are the one who is currently in your life. I don’t understand what can be done differently outside of staying with the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:41 AM
2

No. Someone is your ex for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:26 AM
3

You are currently dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:51 AM
2

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:43 PM
1

Because clearly one group generally feels more entitled to attack the other group, than vice versa. If white people were killed black people at much higher rates than the reverse, then you’d think something is fishy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:42 PM
3

Everyone wants to be able to look at themselves and feel comfortable. Confidence is not narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:38 PM
1

So is there a word for men who are white but don’t have blonde hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:35 PM
2

Why do you think men kill women at far higher rates that women kill men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:35 PM
1

You think that takes up a lot of my day? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:32 PM
1

Keyword: Often
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:22 AM
2

It’s not sexist. It’s called a metaphor. 🤦‍♂️ Is the phrase “thin skinned” also body shaming or something? Even if the motives aren’t investigated, it’s pretty easy to tell when someone is killed because they were women. If a guy kills a woman who rejects him, that’s femicide. If a man kills a woman out of sadistic desire, that’s femicide. If a man kills a woman as a form of control, that is femicide. And I can think of very few male on female violence where that isn’t the case. If a man kills a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:41 AM
2

Honey, you might wanna touch you grass instead of talking to the strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:24 AM
1

Do I have to explain it again? These are not how many people are killed compared to the overall population. It’s the gender ratio in murder victims. This is where my number is from (https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/). Also, you are very hypocritical and literally proved my point. What is to stop me from accusing you of wanting more women to be murdered? It’s the same dumb logic you used.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:56 AM
1

I’m sorry, but small penis jokes are literally everywhere and said by both men and women alike. There are often metaphors, just like saying someone has a small brain. Megalia is the group that the small penis hand sign refers to. It’s in their logo. Most murders committed against women are by men, primarily motivated by misogynistic beliefs. They often lean more brutal and sexual, as well as more likely to come from a person the victim knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:49 AM
1

Because the source explains the origin and the underlying meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:45 AM
1

These are femicides within the overall homicide rate. Women in these countries make up over 50% of homicide victims, which is abnormally high compared to most countries. Most female murder victims are killed by the opposite gender. Most male murder victims are killed by the same gender. So there is clearly some gender-based motives there. I don’t want more men to be killed. That’s a strawman. If the shoe was on the other foot, you’d be upset about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:44 AM
1

It’s almost as if most countries are patriarchal and women have been historically and are currently disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:39 AM
1

I’m assuming you didn’t read my source.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:59 AM
1

Yes. I am white. But these aren’t just names, they are archetypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:58 AM
1

Typo. I meant wage gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:57 AM
1

Explain why there are different terms for different races.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:56 AM
1

Yes. It primarily concerns healthcare, economic opportunity, and government representation. Women are worse off in those areas almost everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:54 AM
1

Yes. But not all actions are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:53 AM
1

The case I mentioned is called the Seocho-dong public toilet murder case. https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/744756.html That hand signal is tongue and cheek than anything. It’s more about men with fragile egos as opposed to actually referring to a small penis. Their website has also been down for years. I don’t agree with how extreme some of their members have acted but they do have some important things to say and have done good things. Similar in many ways to the Black…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:52 AM
1

My number is for worldwide. My number was mistakingly outdated, and they are now placed in 99th. Still not great. Here are the other statistics: https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/ https://borgenproject.org/gender-wage-gap-in-south-korea/ https://www.refworld.org/docid/47d6545fc.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:38 AM
1

My comment was meant to elaborate on other aspects of Korean feminism, because I felt that OP left out a lot. Korea has a high femicide percentage-wise. Right alongside Japan. Also, I don’t know what part of my comment indicated a “men bad” explanation. Misogyny is bad, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:19 AM
1

How do you suppose we “cure” it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:11 PM
1

You are leaving a lot out. 1)This current Korean feminist movement was sparked by a case where a man murdered a woman, because she was a woman, and many Korean men were more concerned with defending themselves rather than considering the cultural factors that led to the murder. Most Korean feminists are not the “kill all men” type. They are just the ones that get the spotlight by Korean media. There are no statistics on this showing they are mostly misandrist. The female idols you mention can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:09 PM
1

Likely because a huge chunk of prostitutes are in the situation they are in because they are desperate for money. Most Danish prostitutes are migrants. Also, it’s legal to buy sex. It’s just illegal to procure, pimp, or set up a brothel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:51 PM
0

Not all actions are equal. Abusing a child is way worse than sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:46 PM
1

Chad doesn’t have a racial connotation to it. Why would he be talking about black men in this post? Why is there a designation for black men among chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:45 PM
1

So, it is racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:44 PM
0

Could you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:19 AM
-1

Depends on what it is. If you committed a horrible crime like child abuse, then there’s no going back for me. However, I believe that, in general, we should judge people by who they are in the present. Everyone’s past influences them, but people can decide to continue a pattern or change for the better. When I was younger, I’d bite my nails a lot. I’m not anymore, so does that past have an impact on me. Yes, and that’s how I improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:19 AM
0

This is like linking a video by David Duke to a black person as evidence that hate crime statistics are false. You seriously expect me to take men who think of me as inferior just because of my gender seriously. Also, why is this so important for you to debunk? Whether it’s 5% or 20%, it’s still a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:14 AM
0

H.bomberguy actually understands statistics and research, and he uses them as evidence. Fresh and Fit are just bigots that pull bogus out of their asses. That’s like comparing Nicola Tesla to Vanilla Ice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:04 AM
1

I think there should be a stigma tho, at least around the buyers and pimps. Prostitution wouldn’t really fix anything for men. The industry, even in places where it’s fully legal, has a lot of abuse. I don’t know what the legal answer is, but I think it should still be culturally taboo. The whole industry is set up in a way that sells women’s bodies as a product to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:27 AM
2

The term is used among some redpillers. Not saying the RedPill itself is racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:46 AM
2

Chad and Stacey are also names. But within the context of the RedPill, it’s has a certain meaning. Why do you think he chose the name Tyrone out of all names?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:22 AM
5

It’s literally a racist term. Incels use it as slang for black men. https://incels.wiki/w/Tyrone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:40 AM
2

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:23 AM
3

That’s literally what that slang is used for (https://incels.wiki/w/Tyrone ). The Asian equivalent is “Chang”. “Tyrone Used to denote a black man who is a Chad equivalent, though usually also with racist and classist overtones. Tyrone might cuck you, but Stacy will ultimately leave Tyrone for Chad because Chad is white, and incels believe that women will always prefer white men because of the power and status they hold.” https://www.timsquirrell.com/blog/2018/5/30/a-definitive-guide-to-incels-pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:15 AM
1

Because it promotes the false idea that black men are taking away all the white women from white men. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and guess you didn’t know that connotation, but that’s what it’s in reference to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:53 AM
1

Don’t play dumb. Tyrone is an incel slang term for black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:39 AM
3

“Tyrone” Your racism is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:35 AM
1

I think it’s more about how culturally acceptable it is. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand however the vast majority of men have paid for sex (granted a lot of those men are underage). Meanwhile, in Denmark, where is it decriminalized, only 15.5% of men have paid for sex (with a very low amount of men doing casually). The countries with the lowest amount of men paying for sex is in Nordic countries, who in also happen to the the most gender-equal countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:34 AM
4

They also commit a lot less crime and most judges are male, so that’s kind of a self indicted wound.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:59 PM
8

As a woman, those excuses are used a lot, especially in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:55 PM
8

I fail to see how these few incidents are a reflection of women as a whole. I could find just as bad of takes said by men and go “here’s evidence that men have zero accountability”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:52 PM
3

Yeah, my dads in the military and there were guys who’d brag about apartments in Korea that came with a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 10:46 PM
1

Its actually low compared to most countries. I’m sure that includes mostly older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:20 PM
1

Most men in the US don’t visit prostitutes tho. Only about 20% of men in the US have ever paid for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:26 PM
1

Misspoke. I mean to say non-virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:24 PM
2

I would take the high road. If they aren’t interested in you, that’s their loss. It might not have anything to do with you. I politely rejected a guy recently because I am not at a point where I want to date yet. That girl who called you ugly is a bully and I’d say you dodged a bullet. It is not the end of the world and you are worth more than some people’s shallow opinions. You seem like a good guy, but just lack confidence. I would recommend visiting a counselor at least once, because you aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:18 AM
1

It was feminists who have been fighting for the Equal Rights Act, which would result in women being on the draft. Anti-feminists used the argument against women being in the draft as a way to prevent it from passing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:11 AM
1

I agree. I’d rather nobody be drafted, but if men have to be then women should be as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 05:57 AM
1

If you are going to use the “men and women are not the same”, then why are you complaining about a male-only draft. It’s that logic that is why the draft is male-only. Also, nobody is the same. I have more in common with my dad than I do the vast majority of women. Difference between men and women are greatly exaggerated and often come from social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:57 PM
1

Traditionally, feminists have been against military conscription and against war in general. Many feminists were also Vietnam protesters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:49 PM
1

A virgin just means you had at least one partner tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:46 PM
3

There are these things called tests
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:44 PM
1

I’m a woman, and I would never want to change that. Sometimes I wish I were bi instead of heterosexual, but that’s just not how it worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:43 PM
1

No. I want justice and for those who commit heinous crimes to be held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:38 PM
0

Did u seriously just link a fresh and fit podcast? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:37 PM
1

I agree. I’m just saying that the same patriarchal system that forces men to fight in war is that same one feminists are fighting against. I’m personally against any kind of forced military conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:37 PM
3

That’s fair, but it’s also a male-dominated government deciding that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:39 AM
2

There are women on the front lines. Women make up 22% of the Ukrainian military.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:36 AM
5

Like how you ignored the rest of my comment. Also, that’s far from safe work. This is a total war so everybody who is within the fighting cities is in danger. These women are risking their lives to help the soldiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:35 AM
1

You know that women make up 22% of Ukraine’s military. All voluntary. Many women are working as nurses and first responders. Most of the rest are fleeing to protect their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:37 AM
1

Yes, but you are begging the question. Please be at least a little bit coherent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:12 AM
1

Alcohol is a date rape drug. Rapists deliberately go for drunk people because they are easier to overpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:08 AM
1

It’s a spectrum. Also, possibly women could wear certain clothes because she wants to look sexy to herself or other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:41 PM
1

Breathalyzer test, witness testimony, description of behaviors. Also, why are we jumping to this being a rape allegation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:38 PM
1

That’s also relative. Since the US is a melting pot of different cultures. We live in a country that contains both nudist communities and Amish communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:37 PM
0

I think it offers them community even if it is a very toxic community. It’s very similar to how many cults get followers. There are men who are struggling out their, whether it’s with dating or other aspects of life. The RedPill offers a simplified and false answer to their problems that will only hurt them in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:35 PM
1

Might want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:28 PM
1

What are you even on about? I think you have lost your marbles
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:28 PM
1

No. Did u actually read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:27 PM
1

What is considered sexual depends on the person and culture? To some people, showing your ankles is considered too sexual. To some other people, being butt ass naked isn’t sexual at all. It’s all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:26 PM
2

Maybe a better way is to judge their personality itself instead of analyzing the potential factors that could possibly affect their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:25 PM
1

Yes, needing evidence beyond a reasonable doubt is good. But often rape victims can’t provide enough evidence because rape is often hard to prove unless you immediately went to the police afterwards, which is not how most people react to a traumatic event. I would like to let you know that in many places, men cannot legally be raped. That’s one inadequate definition, or am I just messing it up? Also, some places require the use of physical force which often neglects when the victim is inebriated…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:23 PM
2

I’m not referencing the CDC. These results are consistent through numerous studies. Here’s a good video debunking the “debunking”: https://youtu.be/rc24YtUslCU
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:15 PM
1

If the same level of drunk, then that’s not sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:09 PM
2

It is shallow and it has nothing to do with someone’s character.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:14 AM
3

Having a bad relationship can damage you in some ways, but tons of stuff can. Most people go through something that hurts them. We shouldn’t expect others to have lived a perfect life and have had no negativity that affected them. As a virgin myself, I do find those stereotypes offensive and infantilizing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:14 AM
1

Shorter clothes are also cheaper and not many women can afford nice looking modest clothing. Also, showing skin or wearing form fitting clothing doesn’t equal objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:08 AM
2

They can, but it’s a shallow preference. Much like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:05 AM
1

You need evidence beyond a reasonable doubt and many legal definitions of rape aren’t applicable to many rape cases. Plus, women and men are often pressured by police and other forces to not press charges regardless of the credibility of the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:04 AM
1

Except drunk driving accidents are caused by the person who is drunk. Rape is caused by the rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:00 AM
1

I’ve responded enough. Honestly, you seem like a really pathetic person and I hope you get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:59 AM
1

Live in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:20 AM
0

Okay, but what does that have to do with the studies? Drugs and alcohol are used as tools to rape people. Rapists prey on those they can most easily access.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:12 AM
1

You’d be a sex offender in many places, so yeah, it’s creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:11 AM
3

Then don’t think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:09 AM
1

They should say they want someone with similar experience instead of saying virgin. I would think the same thing about a woman who wants this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:08 AM
1

For non-virgins, that they are used and unable to be committed. For virgins, that we are naive and don’t know what we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:07 AM
1

It’s creepy. Sorry to hurt your feelings. Most men would think it’s creepy too. Let teens be teens
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:10 AM
1

I hope you were around 16-20 when you married her. Otherwise, that’s really creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:06 AM
4

I mean, I’m 20 and still a virgin. But I get what you are saying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:02 AM
1

I’m a virgin woman and I find virgin preferences to be gross and based on really offensive stereotypes. Men who care about a woman’s virginity are insecure, hyper-jealous, and possibly controlling. The problem is that you are confusing causation with correlation. Women who remain virgins until marriage are likely from cultures that are more traditional and therefore less likely to divorce and cheat. However, your virginity doesn’t have any real impact on whether you will cheat. There are hundred…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:01 AM
1

Falling doesn’t mean ended. It’s actually been increasing slightly in the past few years. Additionally, many states and countries have inadequate rape laws that allow too many loopholes. Something can be rape but doesn’t fit the legal definition of rape. This particularly affects male victims and victims of date rape. Some places require physical force to be used in order for it to count as rape. What does drug and alcohol abuse have to do with any of this? You can care about more than issues at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:54 AM
1

Yes. What’s your point? T
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:18 AM
2

There is no requirement that you have to interact with the family. It’s not the Middle Ages anymore. My parents haven’t spoken to my dad’s side of the family in over a decade. Also, a divorced family doesn’t mean a broken family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:11 AM
1

I’ve never heard of this before. Seems really stupid. You are marrying the woman, not her parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:03 PM
1

I think I’d rather listen to the psychologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:02 PM
1

You are pulling some mental gymnastics to deny that rape is widespread. You are discrediting a huge amount of professional studies with your logic. Also, this is about rape, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:01 PM
1

A) The equivalent to a woman sleeping with the whole lacrosse team is a man sleeping with the whole lacrosse team. A woman doing hookers and pursuing barely legal boys is wrong as well. Why are you coming up with completely different examples for women? B) I fail to see anything wrong with those adjectives. People should consent of their own free will and sex should be safe. C) If you want to use “natural instincts” as an excuse, then give up your phone and internet. Go live in the wild. To not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:58 PM
2

Why would someone lie in an anonymous survey? People who lie about rape hope to gain something from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:16 PM
1

Making a false police report is against the law and making a false allegation is something that can sued in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:51 PM
2

Unfounded means the accusation has no credibility to it. Baseless means there is credibility but there is not enough evidence to move forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:49 PM
1

I’ve never seen women blame all men when a woman is raped. We blame the culture and those who tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:46 PM
2

Most credible statistics show between 1 in 5 or 1 in 4 women are raped in their lifetime and 1 in 33 men (tho I’d reckon that number is higher).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:45 PM
2

False rape allegations and false rape accusers tend to follow a pattern and have a lot in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:44 PM
1

Ignored? Isn’t assuming someone is lying about a crime also pulling a “guilty until proven innocent” on the person making the accusation? Plus the woman is dead now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:42 AM
2

Analogies are supposed to make some kind of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:41 AM
3

Maybe the reason they are angry is because they were raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:37 AM
1

The Talk is hardly a feminist show. What they did is wrong but that’s an anecdotal example. There are over 4 billion women and you are labeling them all these horrible things because of this one dumb talk show. There are bad people, men and women. Tons of male comedians have laughed about women getting raped and assaulted. I wouldn’t be shocked if Burr did that himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:35 AM
2

The op compared women to sodas and cars. Those are objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:29 AM
3

When there’s a lot of them and no reason to discount their points, it’s not just people saying things. Plus Trump has openly admitted to sexually harassing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:28 AM
0

It’s almost as if the context of these sexual encounters matter. Judging a man for being bisexual or a virgin is stupid, so I’ll give you that. Doing hookers or pursuing barely legal girls are actual indicators of someone’s morality. I’m talking about free safe affirmative consent among mature adults. Also, creating a metaphor doesn’t make it comparable. A woman’s vagina doesn’t stop working after sex. If a woman has sex with ten men once each or sex with one man ten times, that is the same resu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:27 AM
1

I don’t think you know what gaslighting means. I’m simply calling something what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:20 AM
2

Might wanna get a different study then, because the one you cite is one that is often referenced from people on my side of the argument. What gives you the idea that false rape allegations are common?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 08:18 AM
3

N count in it of itself is a non-factor for me. I rather look at the why, instead of making assumptions about their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:06 AM
2

Most women I’ve met want to find Mr Right and be with him for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:05 AM
2

Problem 1 is that you are comparing women to inanimate objects. That’s misogyny. I would take it on a case by case basis. Someone’s past sexual behavior is not an inherent indicator of whether she will value your relationship. High n counts can be the result of mental illness as it’s a symptom of many. I would look at more than someone’s n count to know if they will be a good partner for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:02 AM
3

It’s not that he was a president. It’s that he became president after these allegations. These allegations have actually been around for years before he ran.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:57 AM
3

The police hold far more power than the average person. In fact, police themselves have pressured women into giving false accusation against the wrong person or just didn’t consult the victim in the first place. Look at the Central Park Five
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:56 AM
2

He did confess to inappropriate behavior that might not have been criminal but is still morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:55 AM
1

He posted about it himself on Reddit. https://www.denverpost.com/2007/04/18/cu-student-arrested-for-comments/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/abli1b/im_max_karson_i_was_quite_publicly_arrested_in/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:54 AM
3

“Billionaire”. Batali is also super rich and successful as well. Are men of certain backgrounds more likely to be considered guilty? Yes, but your average white middle class man is going to generally get the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:51 AM
1

Yes, but someone can spread false rumors about anything and those things don’t tend to actually affect the accused’s life. You and I probably have false rumors floating around about us out there, but it doesn’t really affect us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:48 AM
2

“Might have been false”. Lol. You can’t determine something is false if you don’t investigate it. Here is a quote from the study being cited: “These results, taken in the context of an examination of previous research, indicate that the prevalence of false allegations is between 2% and 10%.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:46 AM
1

Because people who think that don’t say it quite so stupidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:43 AM
2

From numerous studies including those done by the FBI. The numbers used are based on unfounded accusations, ergo those with no or false evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:42 AM
3

You still have to prove it wasn’t consensual. Innocent until proven guilty is still how the justice system generally works. The fact that two people had sex doesn’t make someone’s allegation true in the eyes of the law. Those are based on what allegations are unfounded. Rape is already hard enough to get a conviction out of, so getting a conviction without any truth is even harder. https://psmag.com/.amp/news/false-reports-of-sexual-assault-are-rare-but-why-is-there-so-little-reliable-data-about…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:41 AM
1

Rape should be seen as a worse crime than those. A crime on a similar level like child abuse can have similar repercussions. Donald Trump was accused by multiple women, including his ex-wife, of sexual assault, yet he became president and still has an incredibly loyal base that will kill for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:25 AM
1

Sleeping around can mean sleeping with one person at a time. Most people still aren’t sleeping around. The average woman has around 4-5 sex partners in her lifetime. The standards aren’t related to appearance for most women because that is subjective. Many of us are done with having to tolerate being mistreated and some men are pissy about it. That’s basically why the RedPill exists as it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:22 AM
1

That’s not really true. Many people, including guilty sex offenders, get quite a bit of sympathy from a decent amount of people. Because people are so afraid of false rape allegations, they often give accused men the benefit of the doubt. Some men get proven innocent and face no extra issues. A false murder allegation is something that has a much higher chance of destroying your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:18 AM
2

How are those contradictory? Those men are part of the general trend. Trends come from people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:11 AM
1

False allegations are wrong but they aren’t that common. They are about as common as false allegations for other crimes. Men are far more likely to be raped than falsely accused of it. The reason some people believe the accuser right away is because there is a staggering lack of accountability for rapists. The few that get sentenced often get very short sentences. The MeToo movement was brought on because of the lack of legal accountability, so people have tried taking it into their own hands. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:04 AM
0

That’s still not polygamy if someone is sleeping around no strings attached. Most women aren’t picky, we just have basic standards of decency that a decent amount (not most) of men find difficult to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:51 AM
4

Except women are people. Not possessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:49 AM
0

Monogamous in terms of long term partners. Most people have one sex partner at a time. Open relationships are not the norm despite how widespread their stories are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:07 AM
2

Great post!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:49 AM
1

That’s a big assumption to make. You could make a gross assumption the other way around too in saying virgin/low-count women are too scared of sex because of trauma. Both are equally presumptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:48 AM
7

Yes, and a decently large group of people want virgins who will become super sexual just for them. They may not use such words exactly, but that’s their general view of women. Again, a common complaint is that women aren’t having sex with them, while another equally common complaint is that women are too promiscuous. These come from the same communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:46 AM
3

Also, MrGirl is far from moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:39 AM
1

Isn’t MrGirl that guy who liked Cuties and has been arrested for possible threats?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:39 AM
1

If they only want sex from you or can’t take “no” for an answer, their friendship isn’t worth regaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:37 AM
1

Except they can. Our society is still set up as monogamous and the gender ratio is roughly 50/50. Men have just as much chance based on numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:35 AM
1

It’s more of a general trend within the community. The entire belief of the incel community revolves around this concept. They are men who are mad women aren’t sleeping with them, while at the same time, calling women too promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:33 AM
1

Agreed. I’m a virgin and I’m convinced they think we are malleable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:31 AM
1

I’ve seen many men like that especially on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:28 AM
16

I don’t know about that. Redpillers who complain about women being too promiscuous also complain about women “withholding” sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:27 AM
1

We don’t choose what clothes get produced. Clothes like that get sold to little girls for goodness sakes. Definitely don’t think those little girls are responsible for “self-sexualization”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:22 AM
1

Understood. That’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:18 AM
1

Only a person who sexually objectifies women would say that. Women get sexualized for doing almost anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:27 AM
2

It’s still not that popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:16 AM
2

Still most women aren’t getting it. Most women getting it are over 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:08 AM
2

The same could be said with the genders reversed. 30 year old women can be just as hot. You don’t look too much different in that time as long as you don’t let yourself go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:41 AM
3

Again, why do they like that? If it’s not biological, then it’s cultural. What does a 40 year old man get out of dating a 20 year old that he doesn’t get from dating a 30 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:34 AM
3

They aren’t that different. Men and women share over 99.9% of the same DNA. There are men I have more in common with than some women. Women in their late 20s and 30s can still have children so the wanting a biological child explanation doesn’t really work. Humans aren’t even fully mentally developed until around 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:29 AM
3

Why does he want that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:34 AM
4

A) No, just because I think something is weird, doesn’t mean I think it should be illegal. Adultery is wrong but I don’t think it should be illegal. B) What do “confined” mean? How is dating a woman your own age or a decade younger at all confining? My opinion on this is gender neutral and doesn’t just apply to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:31 AM
1

I’m not personally attracted to him physically and I’d need to know more. All the stuff in text is perfectly good tho. I want a monogamous partner to have biological children with too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:27 AM
2

No, vice versa. A younger person pursuing an older person is fine, unless that older person is way too old and unable to make proper decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:24 AM
1

I’d feel concerned if he said that. It would sound to me like he is feeling down on himself. I think cheating is wrong and immoral (unless it’s an abusive relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:23 AM
1

Because that’s blatantly abusive and manipulative. It’s basically grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:21 AM
1

I take issue because people who go for people much younger than them are often doing it because they view them as more malleable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:20 AM
1

It depends on the state and area you live in. I think a problem is that being overweight is assumed to be the result of a poor diet, which isn’t true. Illness and medication can contribute to weight gain even if one eats perfectly healthily.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:19 AM
1

I think the reason many girls avoid an explicit “no” is out of fear that it will come back to hurt them. For example, the Parkland school shooters’s first victim was a girl who rejected him to prom. We also don’t want to hurt people’s feeling so we try to be more indirect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:16 AM
1

If it is genuine, then I think it can be very endearing and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:12 AM
0

How is not dating someone exploitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:09 AM
1

Maybe the reason those men get more sex is because they can’t hold down a stable relationship and are more likely to commit sexual assault and purchase sex. They also tend to me more hypersexual. Your article also says nothing about being a wife beater. Being physically aggressive doesn’t inherently equal a wife beater. I have seen men themselves self describe as a nice guy but then say women want to be raped in the same sentence. Men like you don’t bring up these things out of concern for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:08 AM
3

I think some are able to. Same with men. To me, age gaps (when they are both adults), is only an issue if the age is irrelevant to why they are in a relationship. I take issue with older people specifically going after young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:59 AM
1

The Talk is hardly a feminist show. And those women are sick for doing that. Oprah herself was a victim of child sexual abuse. She literally came from nothing. Why do you think teachers get paid squat? Teachers are paid less because it was considered a woman’s job. Schools wanted to pay teachers as little as possible so they hired women because women could barely make any money at the time, so they took what they could get. Additionally, as I mentioned, women are graduating and getting degrees a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:19 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/x1dz41/nice_guy_claims_women_prefer_murderers_and_rapists/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:50 PM
1

Again, these aren’t the actual conclusions of the studies. There is no mention of being attracted to someone committing crimes. There are people who fantasize about being cat or fighting in war. That doesn’t mean they want to do it. You are the one making the claim, ergo you are the one who has to defend it. The fact that you have the gall to call yourself a “nice guy” while saying most women want to be raped is mind-boggling. You can’t expect people to treat you nicely when you are spouting suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:51 AM
1

If any virgin is an incel, then I’m an incel by that definition. Feminism is absolutely needed. The sexual objectification of women is just as present as ever and the rise of figures like Andrew Tate is incredibly scary. Women are still disproportionately the victims of sexual violence and intimate partner violence. We are still underrepresented in high paying jobs despite graduating at much higher rates. Thousands of years of systemic oppression doesn’t disappear with the passing of some laws. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:39 AM
1

So, are you expecting women to not have at least somewhat internalized misogynistic beliefs that they have been fed their whole lives? This same stuff happens with racism. A study done in the 30s/40s showed black children preferring white dolls as opposed to black dolls. Nobody is immune from these biases. That doesn’t mean women should be victim blamed or that feminism should be completely discouraged. Also, the term incel is in reference to the incel community. A guy who can’t get laid is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:39 AM
3

Oh dear. You are really twisting these studies. The first study explicitly says that these personality traits are not actually attractive to women. They say that women are attracted to personality traits that might correlate with the DT ones (like extraversion) , not the DT traits themselves. They cite many other studies that show women aren’t attracted to those traits. The study is very self aware that it is just one study out of many. These also say nothing about murder or criminal activity. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:35 AM
1

I think it’s something that is relatable and refreshing. I rarely feel represented in media, even if it has many female characters. I personally, don’t enjoy men being hyper sexualized or objectified, but I think that’s only a small part of the female gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:55 AM
1

Had a crush on Jack Skellington
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:52 AM
1

Who blames men for incel attacks? Never have heard anyone say that. What gets blamed is the incel community, the perpetrator and misogyny because that’s what caused it. I’m not having sex with rich white dudes (also the white is kind of pointless here). I’m not even sexually active right now. And most women aren’t. Most men of all (adult) ages have sex. I agree that there are women who perpetuate patriarchal ideals and they are harmful. But that doesn’t really reflect most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:52 AM
1

Because it’s been women who have been discriminated against and have had little to no power. It’s a women’s movement. You sound like those people who get offended by BlackLivesMatter because it doesn’t include white people. Or that there is no S for straight in LGBTQ+. The reason men’s rights movements are hated is because most of it has an apparent underlying misogyny. The fact that I see more MRAs complain about false rape allegations for than advocating for male rape victims shows the true in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:48 AM
1

And those women are a fraction of a fraction of a percent of all women. Completely anecdotal. I could do the same thing with the genders reversed. Female murderers and rapists have their fanboys. Whenever a story of a female teacher raping a male student comes out, there are constant comments of men talking about how hot she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:44 AM
1

Interesting that you can’t link a study. If you gave a woman a choice between and average nice man and a murderer, they are going to pick the former in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:42 AM
1

The literal definition of feminism is the belief in the equality of the sexes. The human race kind of has to reproduce so we’ve had to settle for what we could. You also forget the many women who do sex boycotts and how women are being more selective nowadays because of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:39 AM
1

You really shouldn’t project your opinions onto other men. I don’t know what people are thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:37 AM
1

Except he’s not. As a woman, I have never met a woman who finds killers and violent men attractive. It’s repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:33 AM
3

Those women make up an incredibly small amount of the women, less than a percent. This phenomenon also happens with men. Yandere is apparently appealing to some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:32 AM
0

Your entire post is based on a false premise. I’m sorry, but that is not unanimously agreed upon. The only place where that idea is remotely popular is in the Manosphere. Go and tell that to the average person and they will think you are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:29 AM
1

Don’t feel pressured to do anything. Don’t feel the need to lie about yourself. If someone doesn’t like you for you, there is no point in trying to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:26 AM
1

I don’t think most people do. But most people should be able to understand giving people space and when someone is not interested. This stuff doesn’t just apply to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:23 AM
1

You think the RedPill cares at all about men? There are plenty of male centric organizations like 1in6 that don’t perpetuate misogyny. If the RedPill was genuine in its intentions, they wouldn’t be anti-feminist. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They complain about men’s issues then perpetuate the ideals that make those issues in the first place (ie toxic masculinity). If men weren’t being pressured by other men to prove their manliness, it would result in less men putting themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:18 AM
1

Most women don’t do transactional sex and most who do aren’t making much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:13 AM
1

Sex is much less transactional today. Paying for sex has decreased over time and women have far more opportunities to earn their own money. Back in the day, most women had two choices: marriage or prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:34 PM
1

The fact that under this OP there have been Redpillers saying that women’s only role in history has been to be fucked, I don’t think feminists are the supremacist ones. Anti-feminists have caused more terrorist attacks in the past few years, than feminists have done in decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:28 PM
1

Both men and women get slaps on the wrist. Ever heard of Brock Turner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:24 PM
1

There is a lot of discouragement and discrimination against women in science even if they aren’t explicitly banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:23 PM
1

Never said I agreed with that statement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:22 PM
1

Isn’t that what feminism is doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:47 AM
0

The subreddit in general is a wasteland of misogyny and misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:45 AM
0

I literally just visited it and it’s pretty reprehensible. A huge chunk of it is just posting articles about female criminals even when it has nothing to do with men’s rights. The Men’s Rights movement was specifically born as a backlash to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:44 AM
1

No, this happened to people who won. Millions of women from the Soviet Union were raped in WW2 despite their side winning. Many men were abused too, so it’s not because there weren’t men there. There is more to fighting that brute strength. Planning, strategy, and ability to adapt are just as if not more important. Humans have literally lost a war to emus because the planning was so bad. Women actually have been shown to handle tense situations better in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:42 AM
3

It’s almost as if women have been historically discriminated from participating in science and that women’s contributions aren’t recorded as much and are even more erased. You can’t bar people from a job and them call them inferior for not doing it. There are lists of these women because they did their best in a system rigged against them. Just like there are articles on black scientists. But I doubt you are going to say black people a biologically less scientifically inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:37 AM
0

Because Reddit doesn’t care about misogyny until someone from it commits a terrorist attack. There are revenge porn subreddits and subreddits of men fantasizing about abusing women. A comment that explicitly said “I hate women” was determined to not be hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:34 AM
1

They weren’t. Millions of women have been raped and enslaved during war. I’m not saying men are more inherently violent, but it is a fact that most if not all wars have been started by men and male dominated governments. The issue you bring up is more about class. Rich men sent poor men to fight their petty fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:32 AM
2

Oh, dear. You have no idea how inaccurate you are. There have been many, many female scientists throughout history and that’s with a lot of discrimination. https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/10-amazing-women-in-science-history-you-really-should-know-about/amp/ https://www.britannica.com/topic/Women-in-Science-2100321
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:29 AM
0

THE Men’s Rights Subreddit. Im talking about the subreddit called “Mens Rights”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:26 AM
0

Never said male suicide is funny. I think the idea that a good thread exists on the Men’s Rights subreddit is funny. That subreddit is a hellhole of misogyny and misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:02 AM
1

It’s the subreddit and the specific movement, not the concept of men’s rights. The Men’s Liberation Movement is a much better alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:00 AM
3

By that logic, what do men provide other than sperm? You need a person to give birth. Sperm can just be frozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:59 AM
0

Try against Viking or Mongol women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:58 AM
3

Sadly, women are catching up, likely because of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:41 AM
0

Good thread on the Men’s Rights Subreddit. That’s the funniest joke I’ve ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:40 AM
0

Read “Bygone Badass Broads”. Or just a normal history book and you will see you are beyond delusional. Most women throughout history would be able kick your ass and not break a sweat doing it. Sadism is actually a diagnosable mental disorder. Getting sexual satisfaction from hurting people is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:38 AM
2

That’s just nonsense. Men are more likely to kill themselves with guns and jumping from tall heights, which have an over 90% death rate. Women tend to use methods like cutting and pills which have a very low chance of killing you. Male suicide is an important issue and their mental health needs to be taken more seriously. But they constantly get told to suck it up by other men, which makes them less likely to see help.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:34 AM
3

You’re just digging yourself a hole and proving me more correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:30 AM
1

Lol. Men couldn’t build society without women. Women’s contributions to society have been belittled and erased. We have done a lot more than you choose to acknowledge. That hypothetical female society would probably be a lot more peaceful. Btw, sadism is a mental disorder, not a natural trait of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:27 AM
3

Women have been forced out of the military. If you are American, you will never have to worry about the draft. Men started the majority of wars and women had no say in that. Women are constant casualties of war despite not fighting in them. Just cause you aren’t in the military, doesn’t mean you aren’t affected by war. The reason women haven’t been forced into war is because they are considered lesser and weaker. Not because they wanted to oppress men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:24 AM
1

Which gender set up those systems?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:19 AM
2

No. It’s a fact. The reason men complete suicide more is because they use deadlier methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:18 AM
1

I think you should have a solid sense of identity before you start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:09 PM
3

For RedPill Think about how you would want your hypothetical daughter, mother, and/or sister to be treated and talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:08 PM
0

That’s the RedPill explanation for every bluepill explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:07 PM
1

A significant amount of men have had toxic/abusive girlfriends. Are men attracted to toxic women? To me, this is more about how women are often taught to not stand up for themselves as opposed to anything inherent to women. It’s all about how you are raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:05 PM
1

Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:03 PM
2

I agree that doing a study of teens definitely alters the perspective that this should be looked at. Sex is something that should be done among adults. Kids who have sex a lot younger are more likely to be influenced by porn and have toxic ideas about sex. I also think there should be a discussion of correlation and causation. I think this should be viewed as more why misogynistic men do these things as opposed to why some women are with these men. If the subjects self-reported, some also might …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:02 PM
0

Not too sure what a cold approach is. But I met a guy at Barnes n Noble and we talked before he asked me for my number. I gave it to him. Nothing really came out of it as I explained I was not at a point in my life where I wanted to date. He was perfectly nice and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:56 PM
1

Sure. I’m not on dating apps tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:51 PM
1

Compared to the alternative. I was only given two choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:50 PM
4

Sure. Do that. But I doubt most people can afford a maid to do all the chores
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:12 AM
2

Maybe if you and your SO have some kind of agreement, you kinda got to just do some chores. They can be incredibly exhausting especially if both of you work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:02 AM
1

Unless you wanna live in dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:00 AM
1

I mean, you’re a grown adult. You sometimes gotta do things you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:54 AM
3

In order to make your statement, you make a massive amount of assumptions. The reason there is a preference for virginity is because men have been traditionally told they have the power over women, and virgin women are stereotypically believed to be more controllable. That’s not biological, because it seems to only exist in post-civilization humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:53 AM
1

Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:48 AM
1

You sound like a real catch
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:47 AM
2

Your gonna suffer in the long run. I don’t know your life so I can’t comment on the reliability of your claims. But I’ve been there. I’m 20 and have never had a boyfriend nor had any guy ask me out. However, I’m not going to hold that against men as a group nor associate myself with a hate group (which most of the RedPill is considered). I don’t shame men, I shame misogyny. Your self-value shouldn’t depend on what some people think of you. There are millions of people, men and women who feel inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:46 AM
3

It sounds incely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:40 AM
2

That still doesn’t change that most men aren’t redpilled. I would also recommend gettin go out of the RedPill. It’s a very negative community that has no desire to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:50 AM
2

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:49 AM
1

This is why I said it’s a general rule. There are certain physical attractions that are biologically based. I’m talking more about behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:48 AM
4

My point is that these are societal constructs, not naturally occurring. Just like slavery is. Strict rules on female virginity is not a sign of high civilization. Countries today with the strictest rules on women’s virginity are not among the most advanced. Virginity doesn’t even have any biological basis. There is no logical reason to care about someone’s virginity. Especially when that logic is applied to mainly one gender. It’s only a thing because virgins are perceived as naive and malleabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:46 AM
1

There is when one is applying it to two separate groups
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:39 AM
0

I agree they are a minority. I’m talking about men within the redpill, not men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:10 AM
0

I agree they are a minority. I’m talking about men within the redpill, not men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:10 AM
2

You do, but some people don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:08 AM
1

Pretty sure the concept of slut shaming is purely human made. Religious circles care way more about a woman’s virginity than non religious circles. Pretty sure the earliest humans couldn’t care less about virginity or n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:08 AM
3

It’s an individual’s job to take responsibility for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:06 AM
2

But criminals have actively done something to get them in their place. Gender is something you’d any control.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:04 AM
1

Nobody is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:03 AM
1

Men and women are not as different as you are making them out to be. Culture and upbringing are far more indicative in what your standards are than your gender. Plenty of women care if a man is promiscuous and many men don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:01 AM
1

My general rule is don’t hold other people to standards you aren’t willing to uphold yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:59 AM
1

It sexist if you don’t hold men or yourself to the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:57 AM
1

I don’t think she’s projecting. It’s not a bad assumption to make. Most men aren’t part of the RedPill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:45 AM
2

RedPill deserves to be disparaged
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:05 AM
0

This is a strawman. Men don’t get called misogynists just for being virgins or struggling in dating. The men that get called women hating misogynists are men who have a sense of entitlement and hold actual misogynistic beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:02 AM
2

False. Most if not all humans are complicated. Even nonhumans animals are fairly complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:57 PM
1

Some people want to wait to have sex with someone in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:56 PM
1

If that’s the case, he is a liar and not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:55 PM
2

D. Unless both parties make it clear they want to date. Even so, I’d likely just wouldn’t get involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:53 PM
1

Husband. I’d rather him be a good person who is a bit of a pushover. Tho I think the idea of giving only two choices doesn’t really feel like an honest question. Because most people don’t want either scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:51 PM
1

You live in a dystopian fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:32 AM
1

Yeah, many people do. But that doesn’t prove anything about having hookups. You just refuse to acknowledge things that don’t line up with you misogynistic worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:51 AM
1

You’re talking to yourself again
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:47 PM
1

These are from anonymous studies. There is no incentive to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:55 PM
1

Everyone needs it to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:55 PM
1

The average about of sex partners a woman has is 4-5. That’s hardly enough to create a hookup standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:02 AM
1

Yeah. I think most people want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:59 AM
1

Really sorry you think like that. Many if not most women don’t have casual hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:05 AM
3

What if a woman doesn’t want hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:50 AM
1

I don’t make anyone wait for sex. If I don’t want to have sex, I don’t want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:50 PM
3

I agree with the main statement, however, I haven’t read her book, so I can’t confirm we agree for the same reasons. The sexual revolution has been almost completely co-opted by patriarchal men. Now, many women have been brainwashed to think certain things that mostly benefit men are empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:47 PM
1

No. I’m just someone who acknowledges things that actually happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:41 PM
1

If they were with a prostitute, it’s an immediate no, especially if they have no remorse. Also has a history of using women for sex. I can’t get down with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:24 AM
2

I haven’t met him yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:21 AM
1

I got approached for the first time last week (I’m 20). All he did was ask for my number.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:20 AM
3

What’s wrong with virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:19 AM
1

Men are statistically more likely to vote conservative, so make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:53 AM
1

I agree. As someone who is about as far from promiscuous as you can get, I don’t feel represented in many circles unless it becomes a way to insult other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:33 PM
2

Ahhh, so you just don’t like women. Not shocking at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:27 PM
1

Idk. I think there should be. I think because promiscuousness in a person is treated differently based on the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:26 PM
1

Being honest about these experiences doesn’t mean one’s life is ruined. Your mentality about this is actually far more stifling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:48 AM
2

I wouldn’t think anything bad of him. From my understanding, it’s not standard to get a dna test for your kid if you are in a committed relationship. The wife lied and did a terrible thing. He should be proud that he kept his word and find someone better for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:42 AM
3

I’d think he’s an asshole. I’m like 130 lbs at 5’6”. If I’m too fat, he probably has a fetish. Even if I was actually fat, it would still be a cruel thing to say. It’s rude and mean regardless of the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:38 AM
1

Would it be equally wise to avoid men with promiscuous pasts? It’s takes two to tango
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:33 AM
2

No, sexual harassment and assault affects men and women the same regardless of sexuality. Men are just told to repress it more which is very unhealthy. If anything, it can be worse for men, because there are assholes like you discrediting their problems. And redpillers wonder why men commit suicide more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:31 AM
1

Some do choose not to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:26 AM
2

How are you supposed to tell if someone is gay or straight? Women aren’t attracted to all men. I’d much rather be hit on by a lesbian than a creepy guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:26 AM
1

So your a homophobic hypocrite. Not shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:24 AM
1

So, would you be okay if a gay man didn’t suppress his sexual appetite around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:31 PM
1

Nobody needs to be promiscuous. Some people just choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:30 PM
4

I’d say more by social media and peers as opposed to parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:28 PM
2

Height isn’t a disability. And, yes, having a specific class preference is classist, but it’s also something tangible and something that can actually affect your life. Someone’s race has no effect on anything other than some appearance aspects, mostly skin color. Race isn’t even biologically real unlike height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:28 AM
1

I agree to an extent. Some women validate it, some don’t. Many are pressured into accepting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:25 AM
4

From what these men have said, they view rape victims as women with sexual hangups, which isn’t really the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:35 AM
2

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:34 AM
1

Race is definitely an immoral dating standard because it’s likely influenced by racism. However, I find that possibly the worst standard to be men or women who won’t date someone because that person is a rape victim. There are sadly too many people who have this disgusting “standard”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:34 PM
1

Sorry, but porn has completely warped a generation of men and some women. A huge chunk of men have difficulty seeing women as anything other than sex objects. Some women having a type doesn’t compare to that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:17 PM
2

Yes, but how is that an argument? You are really grasping for straws
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:04 PM
3

You can’t be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:22 AM
2

Because we are talking about human interaction, not inanimate objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:23 AM
1

I generally don’t think people, men or women, like being singled out or chased. Disingenuousness will turn many people off. Also, not all women are the same. Each woman is different with a different life and will react differently. Some women aren’t interested in a relationship. Some women just aren’t attracted to you. Not everybody is meant to be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:51 AM
1

Exactly. Money for women in relationships is far less important than it was back in the day women most women couldn’t make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:47 AM
1

If he is doing it because she is a woman, then it’s mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:45 AM
2

And that seems to be what you value them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:13 PM
2

The implication is there. You talk about women like sex objects and say they deserved to me mistreated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:11 PM
1

I prefer to shave (as in shave arms, legs, armpits) just because I think it makes me more confident and pretty. I’m sure that has to do with societal expectations, but that’s just how I feel. I’m not a fan of hair on men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:09 PM
2

Read your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:07 PM
4

Narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:03 PM
2

Just say you hate women and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:02 PM
1

I’m saying that many of those women aren’t actually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:00 PM
2

If it’s a man being condescending to a woman, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:56 PM
2

Well part of that is how they take care of themselves. If they had some basic self care, they would look fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:50 AM
8

Try posting this on a less niche forum and see the results you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:44 AM
1

Imagine being so misogynistic, you become misandrist too. Just because you wanna fuck every decent looking women, doesn’t mean most men want to. Plenty of men reject women for personality reasons including social awkwardness. Men aren’t stupid horndogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:42 AM
1

I think you overestimate those differences. You are also conflating biological evolution with societal evolution. We have little idea what is biologically innate to each gender because humans are heavily influenced by society. Places considered more “civilized” have traditionally been less gender equal, than the more nomadic societies. The average man today does not stand a chance against the average Spartan, Viking, Mongol, or even Paleolithic women. Humans succeeded because of the hard effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:37 AM
2

Did you not read the rest of the comment? One of us is villainizing a gender and one of us isn’t. You aren’t doing anything to change the perception of MRAs as anything other than misogynists. You can speak up for male abuse survivors without degrading women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:30 AM
1

Most men aren’t that much larger and stronger than women. Men and women live the same ways. Unless you live in the wild, being super strong isn’t required for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:36 PM
4

When it comes to incels who are in incel communities, I swear they have body dysmorphia because they call themselves ugly, but look fine. Incel communities also promote a lot of suicidal ideation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:33 PM
5

You could ask that about anything. Sex shouldn’t be leveraged. It’s really not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:31 PM
2

Your whole OP can be boiled down to “what about women”, so accusing me of doing the same thing is hypocritical. Women do not abuse because they are women and men don’t abuse because they are men. Both men and women frequently get away with abuse for a multitude of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:40 PM
1

I feel terrible for them of course and I want them to be happy. I also think it shows a strong sense of character. None of these things factor into whether I would engage in a relationship with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:37 PM
3

I think both men and women get gaslighted. I’ve seen this same terrible situation with the genders reversed, especially on this subreddit. I hope this guy finds a woman who truly loves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:35 PM
2

I completely depends on the relationship and situation. Sex in it of itself isn’t degrading to anyone, because it’s completely natural. However, I think there are many women who feel some form of pressure to have sex in order to please men. And I find that quite degrading. To both men and women: don’t force yourself to have sex if you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:33 PM
3

What if I just want to wait to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:30 PM
3

Most incels I’ve seen are completely decent looking guys, if not outright handsome. They are just so wrapped up in self loathing and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:28 PM
1

I’d agree there are more than we are lead to believe, but you are acting as if this is because they are women. Misogyny doesn’t help male abuse victims. Like it or not, men commit the vast majority of violence, but that doesn’t mean men are inherently violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:25 PM
2

I think the Men’s Liberation movement is a good example of men advocating for men without being toxic. I think there are a lot of messed up laws regarding men for sexual abuse laws and male-only military conscription. The problem with MRAs is that they complain about these things but then promote the toxic ideals that lead to these issues, mainly hyper masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:22 PM
3

I actually agree. I firmly believe sex and love should be intertwined. I get that’s not for everyone, but people should be consistent in their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:19 PM
1

Why is this just a woman thing? Stigma against the mentally I’ll crosses gender lines. Someone posted on this subreddit that women with BPD should be put on a registry and that they are evil. There are millions of autistic men who are in happy relationships. Blaming women doesn’t help autistic men at all. Women can’t change people anymore than men can. We can only reliably change ourselves. It was mostly male politicians who have and are cutting mental health care to autistic men as well as many…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:18 PM
1

Men and women have evolved the same. We have the same ancestors and we are the same species. There are general differences, but not enough to justify RedPill talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:11 PM
1

Doesn’t change my point. Sometimes, they just aren’t into you but don’t wanna hurt your feelings. Sometimes, rejecting a guy can end horribly for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:08 PM
1

Most women you think are playing hard to get, aren’t playing hard to get
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:51 PM
1

Plus it’s pretty common for Redpillers to glorify suicide. Incels specifically commit suicide at an alarming rate. If I was a man who believed in the RedPill, I’d probably hate living too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:44 PM
1

Plus that men in their communities commit suicide at quite high rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:41 PM
3

That’s because it’s been bad from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:40 PM
2

The manosphere doesn’t help men. There are small bits of useful advice but most of it is just bitter and misogynistic. It’s pseudoscientific and considered a hate group for a reason. There are plenty of men’s related organizations and groups that aren’t in the manosphere that are actually helpful to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:37 PM
1

I get complimented by my family a lot. But not much by other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:29 PM
1

It’s not true. Being a rape victim doesn’t mean you are going to be a nightmare of a human. There are hundreds of millions of rape victims in the world. They all manifest their trauma in their own ways. Some manifest it in ways that are harmful to others. Most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:36 PM
1

The fact that the abuser is a rape victim is completely irrelevant to their abuse. Most rape victims aren’t abusive just like most people aren’t abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:33 PM
1

It is harmful to the women and men who experience it. How about don’t jump the gun and assume a rape victim is going to express their trauma in a harmful way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:32 PM
0

Yeah, kinda. What on Earth is so horrible about dating a rape victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:29 PM
1

Some people are too desensitized. It’s not a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:28 PM
2

So, if a man is raped, would it be acceptable for a woman to not want anything to do with him? No, of course not. It’s pretty clear you have never met a rape victim or at least have gotten to know them in an empathetic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:27 PM
1

The impure one is the rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:25 PM
2

Like you are so are someone to be avoided because you had a crime committed against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:22 PM
2

True. Unless they are anti-RedPill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:21 PM
3

I mean, you should probably tell your SO. It’s not necessary but I don’t think secrets are good in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:19 PM
0

Imagine if you were a rape victim and people talked about you like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:18 PM
1

Why do I feel like you’ve never met a rape survivor?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:17 PM
1

I think it would be people who view virginity as a physical concept, which it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:52 PM
1

No advice is universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:06 AM
24

I have no sexual past and I would never lie about it. Nobody should lie about their sexual past both for health and trust reasons. If someone doesn’t like me for who I am, then why bother pandering to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:05 AM
1

You seem like a nice guy, so I doubt it’s anything to do with you. If a girl doesn’t want to be with you, that’s her loss. Reasons differ from reasonable to rude. You never know what could be going on in someone’s life. They could have had a family emergency, are going through some personal issues, have their phone monitored, or are in an abusive relationship. Some women are just rude, just like some men are rude. I wouldn’t waste my time worrying about what rude people think of me. Lingering on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:35 AM
4

Get a cat (if you can afford it). Studies show men with cat are considered more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:30 AM
3

I think people in general just need better social skills. I think lack of general communication and insecurity is why men (who aren’t creepy) approach women less, as opposed to a fear of being called a creep. Approaching someone in a way that makes them feel singled out is off putting. There are plenty of social events and situations in which to naturally meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:45 AM
1

Again, not all men are the same. Most men aren’t thinking about sex all the time or whenever they look at a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 11:18 PM
1

Again, if you were talking about a specific woman or a certain group of women, I wouldn’t care. But you are saying all or most women are like this caricature. There are 4 BILLION women in this world! I agree women saying the same is also toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:28 PM
1

It’s the equivalent of a child refusing to eat lunch because it’s not what he wanted. Joining MTGOW is a glorified hissy fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:23 PM
1

There is an implication that it should be less of a hassle to have sex. It’s an entitled belief, not an entitled action.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:21 PM
1

I called this specific man entitled. Most men aren’t MTGOW. There’s nothing wrong with men not wanting to date or have sex, but if the motive is misogyny, then there is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:16 PM
1

That’s concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:08 PM
1

Why are you generalizing all women? If this was a specific woman, then I wouldn’t care, but generalizing 4 billion people is kinda much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:07 PM
3

That’s not what was said. Men not wanting to be treated poorly is not entitled. Complaining that sex is too hard to get is entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 07:00 PM
2

A 15 year age gap is about as far as I’d go. I’m 20, and I’d much prefer to date a guy within my age range. I don’t think I’d date much younger because I don’t wanna date a teenager. But when I’m older, that could change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:59 PM
1

Again, wanting to be treated decently is not entitled. But, yes, there are women who try to control men in that way. Trying to guilt someone into a relationship is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:56 PM
0

How did I assume the worst? Entitled is not the worst thing to be called.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:53 PM
-1

Headache indicates something negative and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:52 PM
6

I want the best guy for me, which is not the same as what is best for others. Handsomeness can be subjective and I don’t really care if they are rich (just don’t be stupid with money). A guy who thinks it’s okay to have more than one wife is not even in consideration for me. You are coming to a conclusion based on an assumption on what women are like. You talk about women as if we are all groupies who just sleep with rich men on the regular. Wealth and handsomeness are generally admired characte…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:48 PM
-4

There’s an implication that he is upset it’s not easier to obtain. He’s implying women should give it up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:34 PM
4

Erotica is not typically made for profit or views, which eliminates the desire to make the material more extreme for attention. It is also one person, usually, so others are not being exploited. It’s also made far more honestly and not from the male gaze perspective. Even the limited porn that isn’t from the male gaze is hard to view, because our brains have been conditioned to view ourselves in that way. I think this is why gay erotica is so popular among women. Erotica is also a more than just…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:33 PM
1

I just prefer my partner to be taller than or the same height as me. I’m 5’6”. I wouldn’t call this a standard since it’s not a dealbreaker, just a preference. I actually would prefer to not date a guy who is too tall. I guess my preference is 5’6” to 6’1”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:20 PM
2

That’s just not true. To imply men all secretly want to have sex, is to play into many harmful ideas that actually makes life worse for men, especially those who are sexual abuse victims. You are acting like men and women are different species. Just because you wanna fuck everything in sight, doesn’t mean that is a universal experience for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:14 PM
4

Disagree. Even men in relationships are the ones who don’t wanna have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:46 AM
–

So more bad days equals less cheating I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:50 AM
14

Explain the difference then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:43 AM
11

Yes, men feel a biological urge. Just like we biologically get goosebumps when we are nervous. Men’s biological urge is just more visible and noticeable than it is for women. The motive for cheating is the same for both genders. Entitlement. Whether you want the relationship to end or continue isn’t at all important. If a man cheats, but wants to continue his relationship, that makes him delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:53 AM
1

The first thing should be to have a discussion. If it is that big of an issue, then they should either form some sort of arrangement or break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:48 AM
2

Just because something can be weaponized, doesn’t mean it will. If a partner is controlling, they will weaponize more than tears. Most men and women don’t cry with the intention of manipulating others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:44 AM
16

How can someone be both misandrist and misogynistic in one comment? I think you are underestimating men’s intelligence. Even most non human animals are not as desperate as you describe humans. Men are no more lizard brained than women. To say so is to imply women are more evolved. If a hot woman was to go around asking random men on the street to have sex, the majority will reject her. Cheating is wrong no matter what the gender is. Men and women have full control over themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:41 AM
3

I don’t have a boyfriend, so unless it’s a child, I would call the cops if some guy intentionally got naked in front of me. Cause that’s a crime. Men should feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:35 AM
1

Just because these women aren’t attracted to you in that way, doesn’t mean that applies to all women. I assume you are planning on dating one person, so why care if someone women don’t want to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:30 AM
0

Most men have sex, even young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:20 AM
2

I’m a virgin. Abusive sex sounds like a nightmare. Hard no, followed by an immediate break up always. I think some kinkiness in moderation is fine, but a lot of it goes too fate. I think it’s fucked up. Any guy who is turned on by hurting women (or anyone for that matter) needs to be in an institution. Any woman who is turned on by being abused needs a therapist. This is likely because of porn. In the UK, within one year, dozens of women were choked to death during sex and the boyfriends said th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:59 PM
0

It’s a choice for most men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:53 PM
1

You don’t know what the circumstance is. Maybe she was going to be with him for the rest of her life and he bailed. Maybe she was raped. Maybe she got divorced. Maybe the father is in jail. Where is the blame on the father who has taken no responsibility for his child and choices? She has taken responsibility for her choice by actually taking care of her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:49 PM
1

The arrest with the girlfriend could have been a misunderstanding. Like you say, innocent until proven guilty. Yes people were outraged by Cosby, but those people aren’t the same ones sending hate campaign to Amber Heard. Now Amber Heard is used to discredit any woman who comes forward about violence from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:45 PM
1

Porn as a concept is neutral. But in reality, the way women and relationships are often portrayed are very harmful. When incest, teen, and race-based categories are mount the most popular, that is an issue. A study was done analyzing the 50 most viewed porn videos and over 90% of scenes contained physical violence. There is also a lot of ethical issues. Porn actors are often drugged up and whether these videos were made with true consent is unclear. Even if the actors consent, the content does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:42 PM
1

Its tagged “questions for women”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:42 PM
1

Most porn is pretty dehumanizing to women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:09 AM
3

Respect. To me, it’s actually more about how porn is very degrading to women. I don’t want my bf being aroused by the dehumanization of women because that goes against my basic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:06 AM
1

I hate porn in general. Most of it is incredibly degrading to women and promotes a lot of dangerous ideas. If my bf is looking at that stuff, especially for sexual gratification, I worry for my safety because I don’t know how much of it he will project into our relationship. I have heard numerous stories from women who were assaulted by their boyfriends because they were trying to imitate porn. If I find out my bf is watching porn, I’d want him to go to counseling. If he doesn’t want to change, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:03 AM
8

Where were the millions or memes, outrage, rants, and hate posts for R Kelly? Or Harvey Weinstein? Or Bill Cosby? These angry men didn’t care much when those men did something horrible.Amber Heard did have degrees of proof including pictures (tho they might have been fabricated). To say she just said it without anything else is dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:56 AM
1

I think it’s more about having a poor or nonexistent male role model. Unless the father died, the blame should be put in them. Your title puts the blame on the mothers who are doing their best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:53 AM
1

I sympathize with almost all the issues they present in concept. The problem is when they start downplaying women’s struggles. I think just general gender equality can do a lot. It takes the burden off of men and gives women more of a voice. The RedPill ideology is counterproductive when it comes to actually helping men. I also think interpersonal communication should be improved overall and people should use social media less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:48 AM
12

That doesn’t mean it gets labeled gender violence. Not many if any domestic violence cases or rape cases get labeled hate crimes. Many women get dismissed and laughed at. I lean towards Depp’s side, but I don’t think it’s so cut and dry. Those texts he sent about her were pretty revolting. Additionally, Heard has become one of the most hated people in the world. There was not even a fraction of the hate and outrage towards male abusers and rapists as there is for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:45 AM
2

Just because a woman is not attracted to you, doesn’t mean she thinks you are ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:41 AM
1

I wouldn’t say that is a cause unless the abuser is a child themselves. Predators often lie about being sexually abused as children to get sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:40 AM
2

Sure it is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:39 AM
–

I fall somewhere between A and B. I am not rushing myself to marriage, but I do want to get married and have a nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:34 AM
1

Being emotional is fine. Hiding emotions away is harmful and makes things worse. As long as they aren’t miserable to be around, I have no problems with men being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:32 AM
0

There’s a difference between objective attractiveness and subjective attractiveness. Just because those women are not attracted to those men, doesn’t mean they think they are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:30 AM
1

I think this is more of an issue about stereotyping. If we stereotype what a toxic man and a non-toxic man are, it can lead to people getting into bad situations. A youthful looking man isn’t any more or less potentially dangerous than an older looking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:29 AM
4

“This is why women admit to thinking the vast majority of men are ugly…” “…once women are invested in a guy, they’ll allow him to treat them poorly…” I don’t think you have ill-intentions (which I can’t say for most guys on here), but if you were to go out in public and say these things, people will be weirded out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:25 AM
14

That’s fucked up and those women need to go to prison for life. Most violence against women doesn’t get labeled gender violence either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:22 AM
1

This is probably because men are taller overall and make more money overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:21 AM
1

You are making a lot of massive assumptions in order to get to your point, which makes it faulty and uncredible. You can’t just state something is true when it’s in high dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:19 AM
0

Like a normal human being. Just be polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:18 AM
1

Let’s pretend this is remotely true. Imagine if you applied this fairness concept to anything else. Imagine saying people with legs can’t run because that’s unfair to people without legs. This post is sad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:14 AM
4

Facts. Polygamous marriage is illegal for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:07 AM
2

We cannot fundamentally have a relationship. Our values are completely opposing. Even outside of me being religious, polygamous relationships are almost always abusive in some way. There is a reason it’s illegal to have more than one spouse and it’s not because people are prudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:06 AM
1

Most men will not care cause most men aren’t assholes. Men also suffer from mental illness. You are creating a caricature of a person. You are conflating being “bitter” and “angry” with having a mental illness. Maybe stop viewing your fellow humans as products with quality rates. Also, isn’t one of the main ideas of the RedPill is that women are the ones who choose their partners while men are the desperate ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:15 AM
5

First step: Don’t think like this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:19 AM
6

Aggressiveness, bigotry, poor manners, gaslighting, controlling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:14 AM
0

“Just because”. Good response for a 5 year old. Nobody gets to decide what is objectively “low quality”. There are millions of women with mental illnesses who are in happy and stable relationships. Same goes for men with mental illnesses. How is having a mental illness make someone “lower quality” compared to a physical illness? Are women with cancer low quality, because it makes just as much sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:11 AM
1

Overweight maybe, but how does having a mental illness and being a single mother make you low quality? 20% of women have mental health issues. Please never complain again if a woman doesn’t want to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:59 AM
2

“Withholding sex” is a stupid concept. If I don’t want to have sex, I don’t have sex. Some guys only date purely for sex, which is not something I’m comfortable with. A guy only wanting a hookup inherently does not fit my criteria. Men have the same right to not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:23 PM
1

Looks. I’m not someone who has ever felt overly insecure about my looks. What is a good looking person is mostly subjective? What is having a bad personality is pretty objective?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:21 PM
0

I did. My comment still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:13 PM
0

Both men and women have struggles in dating. I swear redpillers seem to think dating stops at getting a date. Why do they think men treating you like a sex object is a privilege? Catcalling and being creeped on aren’t privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:08 AM
1

Ahh, comparing women to objects again. What if a woman was gang-raped? It is absolutely about power. I will shame people for preferences if they are stupid and harmful. Girls and women kill themselves over this kind of slut shaming. There is no biological justification for men to desire virgins. No other species has this problem and in many places, humans don’t either. Height preferences have no relation to personality. Men can have height preferences too. If you are deliberately looking for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:04 AM
1

It’s not that they want him. It’s that they don’t like the double standard where older women are treated like used furniture in dating and older men are don’t have the stigma. I think they are more annoyed that these men are so insecure that they target younger women in order to have power. There’s a difference between dating in spite of an age gap and dating because of an age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:58 PM
1

Those people equals about 4 billion people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:50 PM
7

He’s an internet cult leader. He’s does what Scientology does. Find insecure individuals, feed them bs, and milk them of their money. Great video about him: https://youtu.be/6v5NUr9wTR4
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:46 AM
3

If you are deliberately going for women far younger than you, then I find that kinda weird. Comes off to me like a desire for power.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:44 AM
2

I’m more talking about men who aren’t virgins with a virgin preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:42 AM
1

I wouldn’t say 100%. There are cases of rape and when women deliberately lie to them to get pregnant. This also happens with the genders reversed. Plus sometimes accidents genuinely happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:41 AM
3

According to you. Women don’t have less value for having sex. That whole idea is a patriarchal creation. There’s no science or logic behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:27 PM
4

Still a no for me. The only justification for wanting a virgin or near virgin is if you want someone of equal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:25 PM
3

It would kinda be shitty to abuse religion like that. Using the church just to pick up women isn’t going to fly well with those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:59 PM
2

I would prefer to judge based on current sexual behavior. Just because someone had a period where they slept around, doesn’t mean they can’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:56 PM
1

Basically an internet cult leader who preys on men’s insecurities and robs them of their money
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:54 PM
2

As least your honest about your narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:53 PM
1

What an asshole is is subjective. But women, as do most people, prefer non-assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:52 PM
1

It’s not true at all. Most women want nothing to do with assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:17 PM
1

Excuse for having a ridiculous preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:16 PM
1

Yeah, the want to have similar experience is the only way a virgin preference isn’t completely creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:16 PM
3

Women’s vaginas aren’t loose after sex just like your butt isn’t loose after taking a shit. Why do people assume virginity equals innocence? Tons of people are virgins because they rather just watch porn all day. I don’t watch porn, but I still understand sex and what I want out of it. I’m a virgin btw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:13 PM
4

As a virgin myself, you are the kind of man I’d skip out on in a heartbeat. Virgin preferences are creepy and routed in wanting to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:10 PM
3

Please stop comparing women to inanimate objects. We could do the same for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:09 PM
0

Sound like excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:08 PM
3

I’m a virgin woman and any man with a virgin preference is an automatic NO for me. We don’t like being fetishized or used to bash other women. The only ones who do are incredibly miserable and catty. Height nor n count makes affects someone’s value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:08 PM
7

Agee. I’m a virgin and any guy with a virgin preference is an automatic no for me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:02 PM
–

Problem: You listen to Andrew Tate unironically To me, you should just do your best to help and protect others, regardless of gender. The bystander effect is gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:48 PM
0

Sometimes, jokes write themselves. There is no point in being logical with someone who already thinks I’m going to lie about everything. Honey, very few people think like you. You live in an internet echo chamber. If you went into the real world and told people this stuff, they would think you are a psychopath. The stuff you are saying is literally considered terrorist beliefs according yo many anti-terrorist organizations. Maybe you’d fit in in Saudi Arabia. If you take anything away from me, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:42 PM
1

Cause it kinda exposes his actual problem. Men like him complain about how women don’t like nice men, but then go on misogynistic rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:34 PM
3

I can agree with that, but that doesn’t have much to do with my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:36 AM
3

Nice guys don’t make posts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:21 AM
1

I believe them. Racism is real in the dating market as well as everywhere else. Black women also struggle with similar things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:20 AM
7

Because it’s not true. Getting a date is only one part of dating. It annoys me how redpilled men insist dating is easy for us, when they have never been a woman. I never claim dating is a easy for men. When they say it’s hard, I believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:22 PM
2

I think the abuses are inherent, because the industry is built around the idea that women’s bodies are products to be bought and sold. There have been issues in Nevada because of their laws. Protstitutes have limited ability to leave the industry or function on their own terms. Prostitution cannot function like a normal business. If a boss forces a girl to work overtime, that is by definition rape. The same can’t be said for most other industries. It goes against everything I believe as a femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:10 PM
-1

How do you know it would stop it? The porn industry is legal but it has abuses that are just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:42 PM
0

Pot calling the kettle black much? I am literally a woman, so I’d think I’d know more about how other women act more than you. How can I live in a bubble if I am literally part of the group you are being bigoted against?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:55 AM
–

When it comes to the redpillers, almost everything. The biggest one is that they tend to view women as a monolith. There are billions of women. You cannot assume someone’s behavior or characteristics because of their gender. Men and women are not much different as groups. Things like interests, religion, culture, and hobbies are far more likely to affect our differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:40 AM
0

As a woman myself, I don’t know any women who do this. It’s only obvious to people who hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:29 AM
2

I’d hate to be your mom
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:30 PM
2

So you pulled it out of your ass. Thought so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:29 PM
2

That’s why you are redpilled. But lying to get sex can cross the line into illegality if taken too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:04 AM
9

No. That’s just a you thing. Almost all of these comments are disagreeing with your nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:02 AM
6

Do you have statistics for that? The average amount of sex partners a woman has in their lifetime is 4-5. Any guy who thinks that wrong can fuck off. Additionally, most women who lie about it aren’t doing it in order to get sex. They do it to avoid being degraded and shamed by people, not just romantic partners. You are specifically lying to get people to have sex with you which could get you in prison one day if it goes too far. Manipulating people into having sex is kinda rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:00 AM
13

Only if you take words completely literally and have no concept of what implying is. Got an Amelia Bedelia here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:57 AM
30

Somebody’s insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:55 AM
5

Phrases and words have these things called connotations. “Let’s fuck” has an assertive/aggressive connotation. It can be interpreted as crass or rude. “Wanna go to my dorm” is a lot more inviting and polite. Implying is not lying. If you take lying to far, it could really get you in trouble and possibly prison. Quit spreading this toxic and harmful nonsense to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:54 AM
2

I’ve never had a boyfriend or have gone on a date. I have social anxiety and depression. On a surface level, I can relate to men who feel lonely. However, I think it’s gross to make such large generalizations about women and men. They act like we are completely different species. Redpillers seem very entitled and refuse to do any self reflection. I know the reason I’m not dating is because I don’t socialize much. I’m pretty, thin and intelligent. I don’t go around playing the blame game cause I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:44 PM
2

Sort of. He made an absolutist statement for something that isn’t absolute. I also question what he considers “wooing” based on how he followed it with conquered as if they are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:36 PM
1

Men and women are not super different. There are men who are more similar to me than some women. Outside of basic physical capabilities and behavioral patterns, we aren’t all that different. Just like there isn’t a huge differences between the sexes of other animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:44 PM
1

I can empathize with the stress and anxiety of fearing on missing out. As someone who has never dated myself, I can also empathize with the loneliness aspect. Society puts a really pointless pressure on men to have sex and that can be really damaging for them. Toxic masculinity is a real thing and it harms men. My problem with the red pill was never that men don’t struggle with dating. Of course they do. My problem is the entitlement and dismissal that women could have equal struggles with datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:41 PM
1

Not really. If I do, it would be more about that fact that I am not a planning person, as opposed to it being a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:33 PM
5

“Women act in such a way that they are there to be wooed and conquered” Nope. That’s just your imagination. Wooed sometimes. Conquered no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:31 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter