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DiscussionClarityofDisaster/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:33 AM
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DiscussionClarityofDisaster/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:42 PM
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Question for WomenClarityofDisaster/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:21 AM
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If RP were to look at my bf for example, they would definitely call him a beta, no alpha in him at all and any lack of sexual activity is because of that. So...wait. You're saying that you and your boyfriend don't have sex because he's beta? What does that mean? That you're not attracted to beta traits so you don't initiate sex with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:16 AM
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It's only as sexist as calling a man a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:13 AM
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Okay...so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:12 AM
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Nope. It's actually one of the very few things that repulse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:09 AM
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Uh...no. Kinks where you dress up as animals or act like them is one thing. But nonhumans don't understand the concept of sexual consent, just like children don't, so beastiality is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:08 AM
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Do you ever masturbate without fully feeling like masturbating just because you know that if you don't do it, it's probably not going to happen until you feel like doing so it's just best to get it out of the way? Yup, at least once a week. Sometimes I'll just be so goddamn tired after work, but if I don't take care of things I won't be able to sleep or I'll be super irritable. With that question presented, is it then possible to rape yourself because you didn't really want to, but just felt lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:06 AM
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Men who have masturbated. There's nothing "emotional" or "visceral" about just wanting some visual stimulation when you rub one out, it's just a preference. I enjoy porn for the same reason, so it could even be something to bond over... like maybe we could watch our favorites together and get a sense of what each other finds fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:03 AM
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I didn't get that from his comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 10:00 AM
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Just the XL?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:46 AM
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meetup2018 getLittleWindowpanelaid
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:45 AM
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Definitely a bit overpriced, but better than a lot of alternatives. Me likee.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:44 AM
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Meh. For me, it's just that I have a strong work ethic and want to be with someone who has the same ideals. That being said, I don't give a shit how much he makes or what his job actually is, so long as he enjoys doing it. He could be a unpaid volunteer at an old folks home, or a carpenter who only sells a single piece of furniture a month, or a part-time burger flipper at McDonald's... doesn't matter, so long as he understands the importance of not just being a lump. I mean, if I don't ever get…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:27 AM
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Don't know. I'm not the insecure type, I'm pretty damn spectacular. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:23 AM
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I used to volunteer at the soup kitchen when I was in high school, as well as the wildlife rehabilitation building a few blocks from my house. Help feed the homeless and then go bandage up foxes, deer, owls, etc. Nowadays, I give nonperishable foodstuffs to my local food pantry, donate to the Parsemus Foundation in hopes of one day seeing a form of temporary male birth control, and volunteer every other Saturday at the SPCA for a few hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:22 AM
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Google Pixel. Honestly, it's the best phone I've ever owned. I liked the idea of having automatic traffic and weather updates, and the camera is to die for. It's lightweight and compact enough to fit in my back pocket, which is good since I don't own a purse/bag. It did not have a bunch of permanently downloaded apps that I'd never use like every other phone does, which is a huge plus...I mean, if it's going to be using up my phone's internal memory, I want it to be something I downloaded. I got…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:15 AM
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But wait...... what do MGTOW and feminism have to do with the Red and Blue Pills? Same question for Tradcons and Progressives. They all hang out here too, and some of them identify very closely with Red and Blue. Of course. "You're either for us, or against us." Pretty much. Instead of being seen as a bridge between two ideologies, we're marked as "traitors" to both sides. Fun times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 10:01 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 09:57 AM
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I only know some of those people, but I suppose if you're vouching for them, we should allow them in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 09:57 AM
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It is a weird but good feeling, I've been told.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 09:55 AM
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Ah. My guy has very sensitive nips, but okay...I see what you're getting at. I'll have to ask him if he'd be okay with trying this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 03:25 AM
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Not completely. It could be made of macaroni or flamingos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 03:23 AM
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Being a Purple Piller is simply taking a middle stance regarding the Red/Blue Pills. Either you think both are BS, or you're like me and acknowledge the circumstantial truth of both. The purpose of PPD is to have a neutral ground where MGTOW can talk to Feminists, Tradcons can have discussions with Progressives, sexual "strategy" can be dissected, etc. Everyone still hates Egalitarians, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 03:23 AM
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Well. This sure is a thing with words.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:34 AM
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Well, shit. This theory makes a hell of a lot more sense than the theory of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:32 AM
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Sensitive spots as in direct erogenous zones (like nipples), or indirect ones (like earlobes)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:29 AM
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The world that would come about from u/GroovyEFS, u/LittleWindowpane, and I meeting. It'd be interesting, to say the least, but probably pretty fair to everyone who lived in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:26 AM
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That's freaking awesome! Any tips on how to make that happen for my guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 02:13 AM
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You're very welcome. I hope your spawn appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:38 AM
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But you can make yourself orgasm from masturbation more consistently, thinking about those men you're supposedly "attracted" to, and still choose not to. I can? How? Compared to what... masturbating while thinking of potato recipes​? Sure, if I think of fucking an attractive guy while masturbating then yes, it's much easier to cum than if my mind is blank. But why would I do that? I'm very visually inclined, thus I enjoy watching actual naked men instead of trying to imagine what someone potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:36 AM
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Dear stars above...That's certainly not all! Sure, if you are a lazy cunt who just lays back and starfishes your guy, I guess that's enough. But what about legitimately pleasing him? Suck his nipples, use 2 hands on his cock and twist in opposite directions to give an awesome massage feeling, give him a blowjob with seltzer in your mouth so he can feel the tingle of tiny bubbles on his dick, put your finger in his ass and stroke his prostate, take his balls in your mouth and really play with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:29 AM
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Why does masturbation matter though? I watch porn when I masturbate, or read erotica if I need to be quiet. It is extremely rare that I engage in self-directed mental fantasies when rubbing one out (I think the last time I did was sometime in January?), so I'm trying to figure out why you keep coming back to this. You aren't offending me at all, but you are confusing me, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:18 AM
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Women, in general, are less interested in pursuing sex for whatever reason, and iirc more than 20% have difficulty in achieving orgasms anyway, and some truly unfortunate women can't even orgasm every time they fuck. Thus as a gender they are less predisposed to see orgasms as a source of guaranteed pleasure, unlike men who can almost always orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:13 AM
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Is "literally everyday I'm out in public" something you consider often? If so, then yes. There are a multitude of men I see on a daily basis that I find to be sexually attractive enough that, if I didn't have this idiotic fear of touch, I would be very interested in fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:08 AM
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I read what you said before. I still don't believe it could be considered true all the time or even the overwhelming majority of the time. Men do have powerful orgasms, true, but they don't last as long as female ones, and can't go from one straight into another. I've also temporarily lost my vision due to the strength of my orgasms from time to time, but my fwb has never had that happen in his entire life...and he's 15 years older than me. So sure, some men probably do have more intense orgasms…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:06 AM
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Same answer. About 70%. I don't mentally undress people that I'm not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:01 AM
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Well, I thought you were a straight male whereas I'm a bisexual female, so yeah...you wouldn't know what it's like to please a man sexually or the thought that goes into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:00 AM
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Maybe? You asserted that sex involves work, which I agreed with. Then you asked "why?", which I thought was in reference to why I would want to peg my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 12:58 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 12:56 AM
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They all say "owww!" because walking into a bar in the middle of the sidewalk hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 10:20 PM
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Uh...lots of males and females have removed themselves from the gene pool. I don't want kids, my fwb doesn't want kids, the 2 MGTOW I'm friends with irl want kids but won't have them, a bunch of the guys and 1 woman I work with are of the opinion that they don't want kids... It's kinda weird to point out that MGTOW do it, when it's not something exclusive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 10:17 PM
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That's a tough question. I only want to have sex with one, my fwb. But that's just because he's the only person I can really stand to be touched by. If you mean how many men do I see in general who are attractive enough for me to imagine naked in my head as I walk by them... I'd say about 70%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 10:13 PM
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I find that difficult to believe 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 10:03 PM
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Ah, see that's the problem... when you're a female having sex with a male, that option isn't open to you. Instead, you have to concentrate on drawing out as much pre-orgasm pleasure for him as possible while simultaneously not making it overly frustrating or potentially painful. Not always easy to do, but it definitely​ does give the sense of power and control you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 10:02 PM
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Why? I think males are just as sexiful as females.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 09:12 PM
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Truth! Whenever someone says that men experience more sexual satisfaction, I laugh. It's one of the truly great things about having a pussy instead of a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:59 PM
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That does seem like it'd be fun on the giving end. 😅 But I'm still upset that nature doesn't let me do it back. 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:57 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 My love for your comments is never-ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:43 PM
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Ha! Jokes on you. We encourage each other! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:43 PM
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I've only been with one guy, so I don't have a good sample size, but he is sentimental about a lot of his firsts... like the first bj he got, the first time he had piv, the first time he got blown in a movie theater, etc. The only firsts he's had with me are anal sex and various kinks/roleplays. And of course the majority of my firsts are only with him, so it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:23 PM
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But I can never be as jawesome as you, good sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:20 PM
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Lol technically I guess sure. Male solipsism is fun. Ha! Yeah, I guess so! Still unsure what you mean by the other thing though...🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 08:20 PM
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No, I don't care about that at all. I'm more jealous of all the sexual "firsts" he had with them and not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 07:43 PM
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Pussies all look amazing until estrogen kicks in and 2/3rd end up looking like alien spawn. What do you mean? But really it's the ballsack material that becomes labia that make pussies look beautiful or interesting. Biologically speaking, it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 07:42 PM
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Neither. Both are sexy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 07:40 PM
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Dick is actually pretty damn spectacular. The only thing that is sad about having sex with a dick-endowed person is the fact you can't easily give them multiple orgasms. Makes it unbalanced, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 07:39 PM
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You found a source that said it's that few? Seems incorrect...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 07:25 PM
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Lol. Everything about sex is actual work. Not sure what your point is? 🤔 I'd like to peg him to get a similar experience to what he has with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 06:35 PM
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Why are women treating bfs like husbands and trying to submit to them? Why are men putting wife expectations on girlfriends that they won't commit to? Probably because those men and women are traditionalist types. People who don't believe in the necessity of things like "submitting" to a man, having "wife expectations" for a woman, or other gender roles will almost certainly not give a damn. Do you think if we put less emphasis on dating, there would be a resurgence on the importance of marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 05:39 PM
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It's more like, I treat women with distrust by default, but if they earned my respect, I treat them as equals Lol. Well then I must be a misanthrope, because that's how I treat people of both sexes. Don't get me wrong, I'll still be polite and kind to you...but if you're a man or woman I don't know, then I'm only going to trust you as far as I can throw you. It's dangerous and foolish to act otherwise, in my experience. Far too easy for men and women to take advantage of your trust if you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 05:15 PM
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How are you a misogynist...? I've had numerous conversations with you, and while we don't always agree, I can't remember a time when you ever dismissed my opinions or claimed I was your inferior just because I have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 04:53 PM
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Huh, interesting. So if you were offered a bj instead of pic, you'd accept it...but wouldn't prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 04:36 PM
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Hand toys. Like I said, I've been the recipient of actual anal sex, but not him yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 04:26 PM
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I would absolutely love to actually peg my guy someday. We only use toys on him, though... 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:46 PM
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Really? Most people seem to hate egalitarianism...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:45 PM
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Well, that's what hygiene and cleanliness is for. But regardless, both me and my guy like switching off with that kind of play. I'm honestly surprised to see how many guys aren't into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:44 PM
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What about doing the playing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:42 PM
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I am absolutely an egalitarian. I've been called out a ton on PPD by both sides for being so anti-hypocrisy and anti-double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:41 PM
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Well, that's okay. It's not for everyone! My fwb just really likes it, and I'm the only partner he's ever been with that has agreed to do it. I guess for some guys it's a huge turn on, and for others like yourself it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:39 PM
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So you don't enjoy having anal sex with your woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 02:21 PM
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Or...or! Ass play/fucking can be done to both the male and female partner, because it feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 02:07 PM
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But ass fucking and ass play is fun and can be quite pleasurable!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 01:56 PM
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Yeah... that's an average. There's shit tons of both males and females who have sex after 17 and some who even do it before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 01:55 PM
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Damn. That really is a huge bias to get over. Have you tried other forms of initiating, like sexting her throughout the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:43 PM
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That sucks man. I know what it's like to go without any sex for 3 months at a time, and it really is a huge relationship downer. My lover at least has an excuse of intense seasonal depression during the winter though, which makes him very moody and uninterested in sex. Happens every year, not much can be done about it. But in your case, it sounds constant rather than cyclic. The fact that she jokes about it would be a yellow flag to me, at the very least. It's one thing to acknowledge and talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:40 AM
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Why is 21-22 always used as this magical age? I didn't have sex until I was 22 (almost 23) and am a female. But there's tons of guys, both here and in the manosphere at large, who act as though if their dick hasn't been in a pussy by the time they are 20 it's the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:29 AM
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I'm a female. I'd be a guy if I could, because my brain matches the typical male waaaaay more than 99% of women I've met. Honestly, the only thing that would make me pause in magically switching my sex to male would be the whole loss of multiple orgasms. It's biologically unfair bullshit that I have 9+ orgasms for every 1 my fwb gets, and I'd miss that kind of sexual satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:18 AM
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How long has your bedroom been dead (I'm assuming you mean "no sex" vs "infrequent sex")? Have you brought up the lack of sex to your wife, and if so what did she say? Does she acknowledge that it is a problem or does she dismiss it offhandedly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:13 AM
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It has more to do with the person's personality than anything else. I'm a female, but like yourself I have a lot of trouble hanging out with them because I don't typically enjoy their company. Thus, all my friends are male, and I haven't had a female friend since about age 14-15 (I'm 33 now). That's not to say I deliberately avoid women...in the past 15 years I actually have tried very hard to make lasting friendships with some of them, like my female coworkers. Unfortunately, it just never work…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 10:07 AM
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I think that would be best, and make it easier for others to give their opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:42 PM
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Hopeful, I say this with all the love in my heart: I like your posts, but you really should make them a bit shorter and easier to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:26 PM
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Oh. Well, you obviously don't have to answer this, but how do you have sex then, if you find male genitals gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 04:19 PM
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Heh, that's always happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:45 PM
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Cool. I wish you much success!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:55 AM
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I don't think OP intended their post to be about relationships. It's more of a general male vs female post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:47 AM
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Wouldn't it be better to try as you are before making a decision that could impact your life adversely? While I don't think anything bad would happen with the surgery you're talking about getting done...and I certainly hope nothing would... medical procedures always come with some amount of risk. Not just during the surgery, but afterwards too. I'm not you, I haven't lived your life, but my advice would be to at least make the attempt to find love and/or sex as you are now prior to becoming a 2.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:44 AM
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I think it has to do with how an individual person handles their mental issues more than anything else, and it can't necessarily be discussed as a purely gendered topic. Both me and my lover have chronic mild depression (dysthymia) but we handle it differently in some ways and similarly in others. When he's out in public, he increases his extroversion to gain a favorable spotlight from those around him. I just hand it off to one of my alters to deal with, so it doesn't affect "me" in daily life …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 10:12 AM
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Holy fucking shit, /u/soccerstar77. Are you trying to give us nightmares?! 😱😱😱 I couldn't even fit half of that in me, the idea of using such a "toy" is terrifying. If I was with a woman and she pulled that out to play with I'd be shocked, amazed, and a bit worried for her vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:42 AM
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I don't have contempt towards anyone, either male or female, unless they prove themselves worthy of it as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:38 AM
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42% sounds about right for women, since the female sex has a lower libido in general compared to men. Hell, I've met women who say they only masturbate once a month, and only want sex once every 3-4 months. 😯 Men should not be shamed for taking an active role in their sexual health and pleasure. It's something that all people should be comfortable with, both alone and/or with a partner imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:36 AM
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So average then. And you have no luck in finding average women to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:31 AM
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Huh. So you're a lesbian? Or asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:30 AM
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Yes, I agree. I'm just amused that you think people who are making jokes or casual references to male masturbation aren't specifically talking about using Tenga eggs. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 08:29 AM
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Lol. Metaphors aren't indicative of shopping preferences or items owned though​, it's just casual slang.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:41 AM
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True, but isn't this assumption just remnants of the past, when guys didn't have nearly as many options? Now you can go on to a sex shop website or head to a physical one and there's entire aisles of male-oriented toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 12:32 AM
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I tried it with one girl and three guys, all during college. It didn't work out for any of those times, although I had really wanted it to with one of the guys because he truly was a nice dude (but wanted to be a father). None of the breakups were due to looks though, it was incompatibility of personalities or life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 11:42 PM
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Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 11:38 PM
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Well, that has nothing to do with toys... 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 11:38 PM
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Have men told you this? Or are you basing it off nonverbal cues, or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 11:37 PM
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Some people apparently think so. 🙄 I wonder what they think about women who use toys by themselves... probably not that they are virgins who can't get laid. The double standards are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:58 PM
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Some people apparently think so. 🙄 I wonder what they think about women who use toys by themselves... probably not that they are virgins who can't get laid. The double standards are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:58 PM
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Only 25%? That's much lower than I'd have ever guessed. Where did you find that info?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:55 PM
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Agreed 100%!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:53 PM
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Have women told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:58 PM
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But why? Like, do you have an aversion to bodily fluids, or are you very religious and see it as a sin, or do you just not like the idea of men and women being responsible for their own orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:53 PM
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Why is self pleasure disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:16 PM
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Nah, toys are awesome for everyone! Last Christmas, I bought a prostate massage toy for my fwb for us to use during sexy times, and he bought me a collar and tiny vibrator. For his birthday, I got him a similar toy to what you're talking about in the OP, but we only rarely use it because he says it's too strong most of the time. I find it weird that you think that working through your make partner's erectile dysfunctions are something "a human woman could never accomplish" though. Why can't we? …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:00 PM
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I know you said you were a bit short and had a smaller chin type, but you really don't think that the way you look right now is "decent enough"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:53 PM
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Will it become more fulfilling because you'll have a relationship or more sex? Not sure which one you're looking to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:24 PM
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Yes, it is an option. But is it one you really want to take advantage of? Sounds like a lot of money, pain, recovery time, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:27 PM
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Serious question, dude... Would going through all this painful expensive surgery actually make you happy? Will it guarantee you some result you have no way of getting otherwise or improving your life so significantly that this is the only option?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:52 PM
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Nope. Not in my experience. As a gamer myself, the overwhelming majority of nerdy females I've met have been either hetero with husbands, or bisexual with either a boyfriend or girlfriend. I can only think of a single definite lesbian who was truly not interested in dick whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:38 PM
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I agree. I'm in the US, but the only relationship I've had that has lasted more than a few months is with a guy I knew as a friend before we started being intimate. When I try "normal" dating with strangers, it never works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:18 PM
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That's a good analogy. But doesn't the bait and switch part dissolve for most couples once they are in an LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:41 AM
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Ah, okay. I should try that next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:31 AM
1

So you're saying instead of being totally yourself off the bat or fostering a perfected persona, compromise and let small parts of your personality out at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:25 AM
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The male friendships I have sound more similar to the female ones you describe above (without the girly aspects of discussing a single interaction for hours or using "pet names"). My male friends are the ones worth trusting, and we'd give each other the shirts off our backs if the going went rough. Likewise, the female friendships I've had in the past sound more like the male ones you have. When I was still trying to have female friends, we rarely fought, had a couple shared activities, I didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:23 AM
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Why would sex cheapen the friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:15 AM
1

How are they capable of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:12 AM
1

...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:11 AM
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Dating is absolutely hard work. It's like trying to get a new job. The discussions prior to your first date is the application/resume, and the first few dates are your trial period. Similar to a non-contractual job, you are free to walk away at any time if it's evident that the other person doesn't suit you and they are able to "fire" you at will as well. Then there's the fact you have to have enough money for yourself and your date (at least the first few dates), and have to choose date locatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:01 AM
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Why don't you have those opportunities?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:49 AM
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Yeah, that happened to me numerous times at my old job. I worked at a comic book store, and in the 7 years I managed the place, 5 men actually called in "complaints" to the owner about me. They claimed I was "flirtatious" (I don't ever flirt in public) and "led them on" when they were making their purchases. I admit that my retail persona is always happy and cheerful, but I never once said or did anything remotely sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:48 AM
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Lol. Why? Edited to add: I just asked my fwb if he thought I was his equal, and this is what he texted back; As a human being, yes. Duh. I wouldn't really be friends with someone who I saw as inferior or superior to me. But we have different abilities that make us comparatively unequal in those respects, so I guess the truth is we're equal but complementary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:41 AM
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Can't say I've ever met a single person in my entire life that I admire everything about, or that I'd defer to in every situation. Everybody has flaws, and nobody is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 08:40 AM
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Admiration and deference would require me to put Mrs. Cross in a position above me. Interesting. Why would it necessarily put her above you? I have admiration for/defer to my man regarding topics that he is better at or knows more about, because that's just rational. He does the same for me. But I have never once in the 11 years we've been together considered him "above" me. He is my equal, albeit different. We occupy the same "platform" height because we each contribute a pretty damn equal amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:08 AM
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How is that even possible without living in a totally altered state of reality or having a severe mental disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:58 AM
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Women have always hated me when I "respected" them, i.e. admired them and deferred to them Why on earth would honest admiration and deferment to their skills be something to hate? I really like it when my guy defers to me on matters I know better than him, because it shows he values my intelligence like I value his.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:47 AM
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My definition of love is a willingness to die for a man or woman, or to take physical/mental pain on in their stead. Obviously either sex can feel this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:42 AM
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So you're saying that there are guys out there who have female friends that watch their pets while they are on vacation, go to the movies with them, have meals together that the woman pays all or part of, provides emotional support and life advice, lends them money, and other things friends do for one another...but the guy somehow doesn't remember any of those favors because they weren't sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:40 AM
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In many cases, the girl does give friendship, free food, emotional support and favors in return. I wasn't talking about girls like that, I was specifically responding to OP about the type he was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:50 PM
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Well, they suck. Badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:42 PM
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They intentionally try to get attention, validation, money, gifts and favors from multiple guys at a time. They intentionally try to put guys on the backburner to have them do boyfriend activities KNOWING they want nothing to do with them or that they're really trying to get with another guy. And then when the guy gets upset when he realizes he's been strung along, he's the one that's manipulative? Not you? The one who's been using him for free dates, free food, endless favors, an emotional tamp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:52 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 12:32 AM
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True, but I guess that's the risk each person in a dead bedroom has to weigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 07:23 PM
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1: Isn't makeup a fairly profound phenomenon in our society and in the SMP? I don't know if I'd call it profound. It's pretty common and has been for almost all of our species's history. 2: Why do we tolerate the bizarre "lie" that is makeup? Because people are allowed to do what they want. 3: Isn't it a strange imbalance that women but not men are allowed to enhance their looks in this way? Yes, but historically this is a recent development. I do think it is a double standard though, especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:07 PM
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If it's possible, sure. But if you are married with children involved, that's hardly easy to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:55 PM
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However if it's a dead - bedroom situation or there's a lot of emotional abuse going on I don't think I consider it particularly bad. I agree. If your partner, who you've pledged sexual exclusivity to, is aware of your differences in libido and yet still expects you to go without any sexual contact for months at a time... that's more messed up than cheating, imo. They understand that consistently denying​ sex to you is frustrating, emotionally damaging, and painful but still don't do anything to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 10:02 AM
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How do you know​she had the upper hand in her relationship to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 09:50 AM
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Heh. Wish my brothers were like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:19 PM
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What can a brother do for you that a sister can't, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:40 PM
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Become a MGTOW. Don't live your life looking specifically for a woman to add to it, because that's not how it works. Do things that you enjoy and bring you happiness or help you achieve your goals. Concentrate on moving towards self-actualization, like an adult woman or man should, regardless if they have a sexual partner or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:26 PM
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If you look at most female characters in games and cartoons, this is most commonly the role that they're playing. They offer support and strive for cohesion amongst the group. They don't play an overt role like the main character (which is changing now because of feminism), but they can be a main character that is still important in their own way. Do you think that this is due to stereotyping, or because those are the roles most women actually do prefer? I mean, everyone IS kind of the "star," j…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:17 PM
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Games that are centered toward men always make them feel like they're the "hero" of the game (i.e., The one who "saved the world"). With women, it's more of team-building and planning, and making them feel like they're the one's who "held it all together" until the end. Huh. I didn't realize that is what most women prefer. I enjoy being the hero who overcame the obstacles and saved the day... it's kinda ​like directing your own movie in a way, where your character is the star. What's a good exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:38 PM
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What is a better option than having a relationship with someone who is into the same things you are and can relate to you on a personal level? Most of us are of at least average attractiveness, and quite a good number are also into introverted "sports" like hiking, swimming, home workouts, running, or even spending weekends doing LARP. I think you are only considering the overly stereotypical idea of a significantly overweight, acne ridden, pale as fuck, unwashed, socially retarded gamer. Which,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:30 PM
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Seems like sexual competition is a battlefield, but why would sex with your partner be?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:15 PM
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Fellow awkward nerds and geeks! 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:12 PM
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Well, yeah. But what things can a female blood relative...say, a sister...do for you that a girlfriend or female friend not do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 08:12 PM
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They're just not going to go into much detail with the "female" aspects of the game, because it would be like making half of the game solely for females, and that takes more time and money than necessary. What do you mean by "female aspects of the game"? Other than some possible romance options involving whether an NPC is straight/gay for your character or not, there's not much need to alter anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 04:01 PM
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Honestly, I just wrote down the first row of titles on my mini bookshelf. 😅 What games do you think are mostly played by women, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 03:57 PM
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Both men and women will continue to have sex with whoever they are able to. There will probably be an increase in sexually intimate friendships (aka friends with benefits) amongst the poorer class, and an increase in marriages for the upper class since it'll become just another social status marker. I anticipate that the religious undertones of marriage will either take a nosedive or skyrocket, depending on whether American society ever becomes openly secular or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:24 AM
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Why not include blood relatives in your belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:18 AM
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Threatening works, she'll grow up to be a God fearing woman that marries a respectable man and live in a community that envy her stable family and I'll be a happy dad when I see her like that, she'll understand why I did what I did and love me more for it. That is one outcome I've seen, yes. Not going to dispute that some families who use threats and putting their kids "in their place" have indeed kept up strong ties with said children as adults. Another one is that she begins to question your h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:17 AM
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What are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:10 AM
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This joke is both incredibly disturbing and funny and the same time. You've broken my brain for the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:07 AM
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Where would you put RPGs like Elder Scrolls, Kingdoms of Amalur, Mass Effect, Fable II and III, Valkyria Chronicles, Dead Effect, SW KotOR, Child of Light, DragonAge, Bound by Flame, Champions of Norrath, Dark Souls, etc? All the ones that let you choose the sex of your character but only have small dialogue or relationship alterations based on said decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:57 AM
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That response makes some sense, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:44 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:43 AM
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I agree with you in a general sense, but am still unsure as to why this hypothesis necessitates having a sexual "arsenal"? When a female or male is seeking a partner, it isn't a battle, it's just finding someone you're compatible with. The Love is a Battlefield song really never made sense to me... she's singing to her man, who honestly sounds very "hot and cold" with his emotions and communication, and complaining that she doesn't know if their relationship will last or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:43 AM
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Yes, blonde hair almost always darkens as the person ages and this happens to both sexes, unless they spend a lot of time outside and it gets "bleached" by the sun. Both me and my fwb are blondes, and from our baby/toddler pictures you can see we were both born with hair so blonde it was almost white. Now that I'm in my 30s, my hair is dirty blonde (not enough to be confused as brunette or light blonde though, which I'm thankful for...I don't much like dark hair) and his hair is silver now but m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:36 AM
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I agree that giving gamers actual storylines and creating characters the player could relate to are very important for the success of a game or continuation of a franchise. I mean, Final Fantasy was called that for a reason and turned out to be Nintendo's saving grace. But like I've said to other commenters, either you like a game or you don't. Deliberately adding or changing characters or large mechanics simply to theoretically garner more purchases from a particular demographic seems demeaning…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:29 AM
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I just think it's a silly concept. Either you like a game or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:24 AM
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Some of us are, yes. I don't see how this refutes my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:23 AM
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Ah, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:21 AM
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That's fine. It's just not how some people describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:21 AM
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How does a game "reach out to" a girl vs a boy? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:02 AM
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I disagree. Having a community of like-minded men and women who are into the same hobbies and topics you are is not "rarely worth it". Humans are social primates, even the most introverted of us enjoy having fun with our peers and creating bonds with people who not only approve of our interests but can add to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:00 AM
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Lol. I'm glad someone else noticed this, too. Kudos to you, OP. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:56 PM
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Ummm. Serious question, are you drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:55 PM
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Ah. Well, I hope he sees your mention and responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:54 PM
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It's just my own moral code. If I'm willing to do X, I expect the same from my partner. If he's willing to do Y, then I'm going to as well. It would be hypocritical not to. Some people take no issue with being hypocritical or holding others to standards they themselves won't/can't reach. However, I generally loathe that kind of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:53 PM
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You can still make generalizations without saying that someone must be X simply due to sex, gender, skin color, religion, ethnicity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:50 PM
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Of all possible things to be prejudice against, why red hair though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:30 PM
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And while this idea is true a lot of the time, it is not true all of the time. Better to acknowledge women and men as individuals and judge them for their own actions (or lack thereof) instead of saying "men are lazy" or "women are immature".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:28 PM
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My comment was directed more towards the language you and others were using regarding the topic of dating, which imo shouldn't be about having a sexual "arsenal" or figuring out how best to use your "leverage" over the other person or expanding the amount of "weapons" you have. You don't find it weird or off-putting to talk about dating...an activity involving things like vulnerability, care, empathy, intimacy, and sex...like it's a battle? Makes me wonder if people are actually trying to find s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:25 PM
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If someone has an open relationship, it should be allowed for both sides. Neither side has to use the opportunity, of course, but it's selfish to expect your partner to be exclusive when you're not going to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:18 PM
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Are there hordes of people coming up to you personally and complaining about their difficulties losing weight or gaining muscle? I don't disagree that more men and women should strive to be healthy, but it's nobody's responsibility to tell them so. People do what they want. All the outside motivation in the world to eat better and exercise won't be enough if the individual doesn't feel like doing it. Just live and let live, don't​take other people's problems on as your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:32 PM
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Demand/Supply You're right again, of course. hell yeah! PPDCruise2018
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:58 AM
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Damn, we'd get along pretty well then. Curse you being in the way, Atlantic Ocean! 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:55 AM
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Loool you sound like me to her when we talked about this. Not to mention one of these times were when she was a teenager. No one knows wtf they're doing back then. Aw, man. She's essentially​ losing out on such great opportunities just because of a bad memory from an awkward life stage. I hope she eventually realizes that... Language only purpose is to communicate understanding between individuals. Once that goal is met, nothing more is required 😉 Truth! London, UK Ah, all the way across the pon…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:52 AM
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A better question might be why society has labeled sexual traits and aspects of potential physical intimacy/pleasure as "weapons". It would explain why those of us who don't treat the dating scene as a warzone are at such a disadvantage. We're not bringing knives to a gunfight...we're walking through a battlefield naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:43 AM
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Would you truly be fine with dating someone who is in an open/casual relationship, though? 🤔 The general consensus I've gathered from both PPD comments and from my personal interactions with men online is that this eliminates me from a very large chunk of the dating pool. The data seems to support that most guys are very much into the idea of having a partner who is okay with them dating or fucking other women...but then don't want her being with other men. Since I don't believe in having double…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:35 AM
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A friend of mine (mid-twenties) has asked 2 guys out in her life and been rejected both times. So has resolved to never do so again. 🤦🏾‍♂️ She has been in bad relationships but still stands by her decision. Geez, did they insult her mother and kick her dog while rejecting her? Not to entirely make light of the situation, but does she realize there's men out there who've been rejected by over a hundred women and yet they still try? This is why it's good to have close friends that can point out wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:28 AM
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Yeah...frankly, I'm not in a rush to get back in there, I've become too complacent with my fwb (or, as you say in the other thread, my longterm open relationship boyfriend 😉). The last time he came over for some fun, we were talking in bed afterwards and he said I should look at possibly dating a bit again. It's just so mentally exhausting though 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:20 AM
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The jokes are usually harmless, but some people have crossed the line over the years. For me crossing the line is when people say they'd kill their children if they were born with red hair or freeze them until there's a cure. What the actual fuck? People really say these things? It's just freckles and red hair, FFS! What is the big deal with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:07 AM
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I've no idea what you're asking. My thoughts on red haired people is that they have red hair...just like my "thoughts" of green-eyed people are "hey, he has green eyes" and my "thoughts" on black people are "hey, she's black". It's just another natural human coloration, not anything worth devoting more time or thought​ to. Now, if you had a foot tall lime green mohawk with KISS-style platform shoes, a tutu, piercings in your face, pink tattoos, and were walking around humming "Take On Me"...I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:02 AM
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Yup. NAWALT and NAMALT are true than AWALT/AMALT. Just be careful obviously, since it's easy to be manipulated by people into thinking they are X when they're actually Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:53 AM
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Rejection doesn't feel nice. But I agree it's not nearly as bad as people make out. The first time I was rejected I thought "hey, you're still alive! It wasn't that bad" my self-worth as a human wasn't being assessed. Just an incompatibility. Nothing more. People often come up with these excuses simply to avoid doing something outside their established comfort zone. They're not rational. Ah, I understand now. Yes, I agree that rejection doesn't feel nice, especially if it happens numerous times …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:51 AM
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Well, I would tell them that it's based on a childhood of having bad things happen to oneself, and then being able to compare it to how things are now. If you live your entire adolescence feeling afraid, disgusted, humiliated, bullied, dead, and trapped...but then you successfully escape from that environment and make a good life for yourself...you will know inner peace. Because now, you are free and even when dozens of "first world problems" befall you simultaneously, your soul will still reson…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:37 AM
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Yeah it's fear. It's the fear all men had when we first started doing it. If we had the option to not risk it we would have taken it. Like most women do. Okay, I believe your experiences. What is the fear of though? You said "rejection" above, but what does that translate to? Like, what bad thing will happen if she says no? I don't mean to be annoying with my questions but am just confused as to where the fear originates from, I guess? Are you afraid she'll try to ostracize you in local social c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:28 AM
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How is it admirable though? I also rarely feel anger and only feel true happiness when I'm with my lover or friends. The overwhelming majority of the time I am simply neutral and content, but show much more emotion outwardly because contentedness seems to freak people out a bit. I don't see this as admirable or strong any more than being able to breathe or blink. No offense intended towards your compliments, of course. I do appreciate your view even though I do not quite understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:50 AM
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Is this truly a "fear" though? When I approach a guy, whether by initiating a written conversation online or going up to him IRL, there's always the chance in the back of my mind that he'll say no. And honestly, it does happen quite a bit... either he's married, already dating, I'm not his type, or I get no response about 70% of the time. (Seriously, the amount of times I've accidentally asked out married men is almost disconcerting, lol.) But it's not a fear or even an anxiety. It's just a thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:43 AM
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I agree. This is why I approach and initiate the first conversation whenever I'm doing the online dating thing. However, it appears to be off-putting to some men as well. Can't please everyone all the time, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:32 AM
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It's more of a neutral trait than a good one, and I wouldn't necessarily​ call it a strength either. It's​ just not something I've ever experienced. Truthfully, my lover says he finds it kind of creepy that I could go an entire week without human interaction and enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:29 AM
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Do you recognize your own daddy issues if you have them? When or how did you become aware? Since about age 12 or so. That's when I decided that adults couldn't necessarily be trusted to not hurt you, and it is better to plan out ways to care for yourself. Do you notice yourself seeking a partner that addresses them? Somewhat? I'm the "fearless" type so I am attracted to men who are emotionally open and are comfortable sharing that vulnerability with me. I am happiest being the provider and prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 09:40 PM
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Oh, I don't. It's just like Atlas said in this thread...INTJs are rarely lonely. Solitude doesn't bother us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 09:07 PM
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Pretty much. I've been bored certainly, but have experienced this while alone as well as with people. But lonely? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:36 PM
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I'm Purple, but there's no Automod. I'll move my comment if necessary later. Personally, I don't think it's okay to take the first punch on behalf of someone else who is just being annoyed or verbally harassed. Use words first, see if that helps before resorting to physical violence. However, if you see someone being beaten down by another person... regardless of sex...step up and say something. I hate the fact that there are hidden camera videos proving that both sexes will protect a woman bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:26 PM
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I honestly can't think of a time I was lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 03:00 PM
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It's one thing to be accepting of men and women who are slightly overweight, but it's another to be accepting of actual obesity. The former is not uncommon and imo is attractive on a lot of men and some women, the latter is just plain unhealthy and leads to a host of issues that decrease one's quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:14 PM
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Same type of post as last time...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 12:17 AM
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Lol. A boyfriend shouldn't do that either. He's your partner, not your servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 12:15 AM
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I see it more as just teach everybody to be good people. Teach everyone, male or female, to not steal, lie, manipulate, rape, murder, be disloyal, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:11 PM
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Does benevolent sexism do a disservice to women? Absolutely. The problem with refraining from benevolent sexism is the fact that women see that action as woman-hating. This is true for many, but thankfully not all. I think there is a balance we as a society have to attempt with foregoing benevolent sexism in an attempt to give room for personal growth, while not treating women like men. I see no reason to try to find the proper kind of kid gloves to use. Just treat everyone the same as much as p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:23 PM
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Meh, it's okay. Not horrible but also not all that comedic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:20 PM
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Was that English...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:17 PM
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Then I'll watch it for you and report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:43 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:42 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:42 PM
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Who do you want killed...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:42 PM
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Oh, I want to live too. I'm only 33, and if my family history is anything to go by I'll be kicking around till my 90s. But I'd still gladly take a bullet for the people I mentioned if it meant they stayed safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:41 PM
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It's actually not even that rare: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/the-women-who-are-terrified-of-pregnancy-a7509521.html? But yeah...the thought of having something growing in me is the stuff of literal nightmares I've had, no exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:17 PM
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Idk...it sounds like a blatantly cheesy and overly romantic chick flick. I typically can't stay awake through those, lol. But I like you, so if I see it available for rent on Google play for cheap I'll try.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:29 PM
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No idea. I've heard of sensitivity courses being mandatory for teachers and some offices, but never heard of anything specifically called a consent course in NY.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:27 PM
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About 90% of the time. When I'm not being serious I either use /s to show sarcasm, or it's blatantly obvious that what I'm saying doesn't line up with my views. Hyper-INTJ, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:25 PM
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Lol. Still, NAMALT and NAWALT ftw
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:54 PM
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One aspect you didn't cover in your OP is women who are mentally and physically revolted by the idea of being pregnant. If the mere concept of having a small parasitic person growing in your body is terrifying and nauseating to you, then adoptions aren't an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:32 PM
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That's a good measurement too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:29 PM
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True, but still not all. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:29 PM
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Double standards are always sexist, so I don't partake in them. However, some men and women enjoy/condone the sexism and deliberately​ perpetuate it in their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:54 PM
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I don't believe in all men or women WILL do a thing. I do believe all can do a thing. Okay, I agree with that. and for example in the case of being unable to love their partners or men in general. Of not being able to love their partners LIKE MEN LOVE THEIR PARTNERS don't leave that out, its important. and its not a bad thing, its just a difference. does that make sense? It does make sense, but this is a good example of what I don't believe in. Love is an emotional response that resides entirely…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:52 PM
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I believe there is a huge difference between "like that" and "are that" A lot of RPers use it interchangeably, unfortunately. Since you don't believe AMALT​, I was just wondering if you give females the same benefit of the doubt. I also do not remember AWALT applying to sexual assault or similar inherently bad thing. Not sexual assault, no. But certainly it is applied to bad traits like hypergamy/disloyal behaviors​, gold digging, manipulation, lying, being unable to love their partners or men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 04:06 PM
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I suppose. I mean, it probably doesn't help that one of the people is trans, so their inclusion on this list is weird. But I'm sexually attracted to both men and women. For women, I'm attracted to people with hourglass body types. For men, I'm attracted to overweight (not morbidly obese) body types. I'm not attracted to masculine looking women or feminine looking men, and don't think having said preferences is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:01 PM
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Honest question: Do you not believe in AWALT either?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 01:12 PM
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I regret that I have but 1 upvote to give you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 01:10 PM
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More like if we have to teach men not to rape, we have to teach women not to rape also.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 01:09 PM
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I've never seen any of those movies, but my concept of love comes down to a very simple question; Would I die for you? If yes, then I love you. If not, then I don't love you. Currently I love my fwb, a lot of my family, and all my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:31 AM
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All 3 of these people are aesthetically attractive, but I am not sexually attracted to any of them. I tend to like guys who are slightly overweight, not skinny or modelesque.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:25 AM
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Yeah, I've noticed how it often seems to be a form of self-perpetuated racism. The amount of incels I've seen blaming their ethnicity or skin color on their lack of dating is alarmingly high, and is concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 10:15 AM
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It's more than that, I personally knew 2 guys in high school who were traumatized by a sexually aggressive teacher. Statistically, that alone should tell you that a lot of guys who get raped or molested by female teachers are covering up their true feelings of violation. Yes, some boys are legitimately okay with being sexually used by their teachers, just like some girls are. But this is not a mere .01% exception like you want it to be. See the stats in the link below for unwanted seduction. htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:30 AM
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Ugh. That sucks. But at least she was alright afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:02 AM
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Just saying, the reason female teachers get off from child rape charges is because the "children" these women are sleeping with are in fact teenagers, horny teenagers fresh out of puberty and full of raging hormones, people find it odd to punish someone who's "victim" was enthusiastically enjoying it and consenting. And what of the ones who didn't want it and had their sexual responses used against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:37 AM
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It is what it is. Eventually one day I'll be able to have sex with other people, and he's of course able to if he finds someone who will. It just leaves the option open in case anything happens, without any unnecessary feelings of guilt or "cheating".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:28 AM
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Ha! They might as well say all men want pussy. It's just as (un)true, lol. 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:10 AM
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Oh no! Was she okay? 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:09 AM
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Both of us orgasm, and have fun. Pretty damn easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:08 AM
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Superb physical condition, quite easily top 1 percent. Hmm. I'd count this as a negative, but that's just me. It'd be really daunting to be in a relationship with someone who is that into working out. No experience whatsoever with sex or romance, at age 35. Well, that is atypical, but you and I have already gone over potential reasons for this happening before. 5'3 This is only 4" shorter than me, and is actually the exact height of two of my sisters. Most of the people in my family are about 1-…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:05 AM
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What do you have going for you as a person vs flaws that would make people shy away?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:05 PM
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I still disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:01 PM
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He's also much more likely to see 7-8 of those children die before they reach adolescence. Devotion of protection and resources to 1-2 offspring will do more to ensure your continued lineage than giving none to 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:15 PM
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What do you mean by "official"? If you mean married, then it's because I'm anti-marriage. If you mean call ourselves boy/girlfriend, then it's because there is a level of exclusivity and commitment that is usually understood as being part of those terms. Since this is absent from our relationship, it seems wrong to use them. We really are just best friends who do all the same stuff and have the same conversations most best friends do, except we also fuck a couple times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:11 PM
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This is why I'm Purple, not Red. RP is right in general but has no bearing on my personal relationship with my fwb. For one thing, we've been... intimate friends...for over a decade, whereas Red Pillers would say fwb only lasts a year at most before someone wants full commitment. They also claim hypergamy is an AWALT trait, which is untrue in my case. Then they talk about how if you have a vagina, you don't want to pay for dates but I take pride in buying dinner and gifts for my guy. My take on …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:57 PM
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Lol, yeah. Similar to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:52 PM
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That would only be true if you were in a poly relationship and could provide for all those kids. Knocking up a bunch of women who will just become single moms would not help your offspring be successful in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:51 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty weird too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:49 PM
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Sarcasm is not going to help you. Action is. Help me with what, exactly? You are free to put whatever you want in your life first. If you want to game, do your own thing, and sacrifice a relationship for that then go ahead. That was an astounding leap of mental gymnastics. How did you go from "having a hobby" to "making it your life's priority"? But we have a finite amount of time per day, we are all busy and when you are in a relationship you need to make sacrifices and compromise. I have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:49 PM
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I don't think this is exclusive to gamers. I am purposefully childfree, but that's because I enjoy my personal freedom. I'd really hope that anyone, gamer or not, who decides to procreate understands that they are essentially giving up their life for the next 16-18 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:37 PM
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True but they could just be covering it up as a form of overt masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:10 PM
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Yep you got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:08 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more. I make a lot of the decisions in the relationship I have but that's only because I am better at planning than he is. He has ADD and not as much disposable income as me so it's a bit easier for me to figure out where we can go to eat or what form of entertainment we can do that night. But I would never in a million years say that I lead my guy. Just the same as he doesn't lead me anywhere LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:07 PM
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No idea. I always assumed that they just had a breeding fetish or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:21 AM
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I would say that you should have been more specific in your clarification of what you believe a leader to be then. It is not my fault that I'm not a mind reader who can't tell which definition is currently used by an open. Also you fall into the same Pitfall as many people here and have mistaken incredulousness for anger. If it makes you feel better I was actually chuckling a little bit when I wrote that part of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:20 AM
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Then I believe they should have said that. Also followers need to have those traits to otherwise the leaders will just have an army of useless people behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:16 AM
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Obviously.../s 🙄 It's just really frustrating, to constantly see such a vibrant, accepting, fun community of people from all walks of life dismissed as men and women who are emotionally juvenile. Like, have any of these detractors even tried going to Gencon or Origins? Did any of them realize that we spend literally millions of dollars on our hobbies and we were 100% prepared to use this massive financial power to leave Indianapolis when that idiotic "religious freedom" law made it legal to disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:08 AM
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I realize this is just a portion of the topic, but why are you gamer bashing so much? It's not inherently childish to enjoy playing videogames (or boardgames or RPGs!), and there are plenty of couples who actually have fun staying in to play games together while laughing and joking about cheesy character lines or glitches and munching on a nice, homemade meal instead of needing to get all fancy after a long day of dealing with people. We aren't composed of "immature women" and "man-children" jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:24 AM
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Yes, I've met a handful of bad boy types who were actually proud of the fact that they had a couple of baby mamas. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:56 AM
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it isn't​ decreasing immigration a problem when a lot of people are trying to escape those same problematic countries? No, unfortunately. This is probably going to make me sound cold, but I don't want mass immigration allowed in the US the way it has been allowed in many European countries. We see the issues that have occurred already. If we really wanted to help, we could send aid and protections to those countries instead. And honestly, Hillary might have not been overt about it but she would …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:28 AM
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How so? Prostitutes never pay their johns, after all...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:13 AM
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Well, I'm not a feminist, but yes... identity politics is one of the issues I have with the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:12 AM
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Nope. Just me, I'm afraid...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:10 AM
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As you wish. I see very little emotional manipulation from him, and see most of his arguments as rational calling out of the current overflow of hypocrisy in our culture (though obviously with exaggerated reactions for the lulz...he is an entertainer, after all). We clearly don't agree, nor do we have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:12 AM
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Yeah, I do believe in kyriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:09 AM
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Ooooookay? I'm guessing you don't like his channel, but he's one of my favorite YouTubers and I share many of his opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:08 AM
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It depends on whether you view pegging and/or anal sex as inherently "submissive" or not. Some would say it's a 100% submissive position, but I would say it isn't any more automatically submissive than vaginal sex or blowjobs. It depends entirely on what the couple engaging in said act think of it at that particular time...not what bystanders on the internet feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:06 AM
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I'm going to have to find the clip... I believe it was featured on one of Armoured Skeptic's videos, but can't recall exactly which one. If I find it tomorrow, I'll post it here as a new reply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:01 AM
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But why is this "patriarchy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:58 AM
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I've never heard of that definition before. Who tends to use it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:43 AM
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I sure as hell wasn't going to vote Hillary, and Trump at least spoke in favor of protecting the LGBT community and decreasing immigration from problematic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:42 AM
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I know, right? Though honestly, I would have voted for Bernie if he'd been a candidate...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:41 AM
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That's not enough lifts, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:21 PM
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Both me and my fwb voted for Trump. We had sex just last night, and plan to tomorrow afternoon as well. Checkmate, article!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:20 PM
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yeah, but there is also the issue of your gender-non-conformity not being taken seriously Oh, my sweet friend Princeso... There's so little of me that people take seriously. 🙃 Sometimes I don't even take myself seriously. And then sometimes it's too much. Very confusing. but that's just general patriarchy. I don't believe in the patriarchy (or at least the Feminist definition of it), but I acknowledge that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:06 PM
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I'll have to take a look at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:03 PM
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Lol, what? MGTOW isn't a synonym for anti-fapper...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:02 PM
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You have a much nicer view of the world than I ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:01 PM
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Is the evidence from Nevada, or from other countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:01 PM
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Awww, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:28 PM
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I'm going to assume they do...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:28 PM
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I think the sex trafficking would be more difficult to do if everyone who becomes a sex worker needs to be licensed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:28 PM
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I'm extremely pro-MGTOW, which some people consider RP but others don't for some reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:07 PM
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Hmm. I'd like to take hormones but it'd mean​being completely ostracized from my family. 😔 Don't want to do surgery, though. Y'know, I think this is actually a good example of female privilege in Western society. I can dress as a guy/in tomboy clothes, have very short hair, and have masculine hobbies and personality traits...and I'm able to get away with it. Yeah, some people have a problem with me and have made fucking nasty remarks or threats, but I'm 100% confident it's harder for MtF people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:35 PM
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Interesting. I thought that most transpeople at least take hormones...Are they also bisexual too? Or do they only date guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 06:16 PM
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Heh. Just didn't think we were cool enough that anyone would care...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:52 PM
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Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:36 PM
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What were you interested in knowing, exactly? Are the strategies of a non-cis female and her nerdy guy friends really that interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:35 PM
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It's not purely RP, but those topics are frequently covered by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:07 PM
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Meh. Not as much. In our group you have me and my longterm fwb, and we are in an awesome uncommitted relationship with somewhat reversed gender roles...three heterosexual guys who are married​...one gay guy without a current partner...one gay guy with a partner...and one other married guy who shows up rarely because his wife just had triplets. We could talk about sexual strategy, but I'm unsure if it'd do much at this point, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:58 PM
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Lol. Isn't there just literally​ the two of us who have gender dysphoria?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:36 PM
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Sure! Okay, so most of my friends are teachers or involved in school stuff, so they'll be talking about one of those stupid sounding "sensitivity seminars" they always force people to attend. And they'll seriously say something like "y'know, I never realized just how many times I accidentally harass women by complimenting them" or "Did you know that there are more than a dozen different genders?" At which point I'll usually sigh dramatically and lay my forehead on the table out of sheer mental p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 03:21 PM
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My fwb and I are the only people in our social circle who are Purple. Everyone else is Blue or a feminist. We have a lot of talks about these topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 02:37 PM
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I think that men and women who want to be sex workers should be able to. It's an occupation that needs to be regulated and made legal like any other job. Secure wages, health insurance, health standards, employee identification, vetting for customers to decrease the risk of STDs and abusive clients, etc. I couldn't ever be a prostitute, but I have great respect​ for the women and men who are. I think they fulfill a very needed role in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 01:45 PM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:52 AM
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No, the majority of people suck and are either apathetic, ignorant, uneducated, selfish, or manipulative. Only a minority actually seem to give a damn about the well-being of their fellows​, and this is pretty much how it's always been. Having women in charge wouldn't change this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:52 AM
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I'm Purple instead of Red because I do see some of what they talk about as true or relevant, but not all of it. I acknowledge that most females do want a man that provides for them and their family, that a decent amount of women are "Team Woman" to a fault, that some women respond positively to low levels of Dread, that many women seek out "bad boys" for relationships at least a few times in their lives or are even encouraged to do so​, that the majority of women have a lower libido than men, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:49 AM
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The operations are crude, the results dubious, I'll agree with you on this, but I think that is why about 36% of us (self included) never plan on having top or bottom surgery. For the remaining 64%, the majority (numbers are difficult to find, but it looks like about 45%) are only going to have top surgery to either remove their breasts or have implants put in. Again though, I think that this number may decrease even more as we try to progress towards a more egalitarian society and stop teaching…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:28 AM
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Nice buzzwords. God forbid some of us care about people different than ourselfs. You don't have to be a SJW or regressive liberal to care about other people and to work towards making the world a better place. In fact, I'd say it's difficult to be, at least for many in those groups (not all). Tell me, what is it exactly that they're doing? Being very hypocritical, mostly. They want to enforce censorship of ideas, create "safe spaces" that not only mollycoddle teens into bouts of extended childho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:46 PM
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I would definitely raise good people. I have a strong moral code, don't believe in double standards or hypocrisy, enjoy teaching children, and essentially raised my 5 younger siblings for much of my "childhood". But that also means I began adulting at 12-13, and haven't been able to stop because life doesn't work that way. Why on Earth would I force myself into even more parenting, when I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel regarding my college loans? Fuck man... I'm 33, and only …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:18 PM
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Uh, no. I have no duty to procreate. I don't want kids...why the hell would I condemn innocent children to having a mother who never wanted them? That's way more barbaric and bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 07:17 PM
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I'm honestly very confused about the seemingly large contradiction in your two stances. In one of your comments you say you're fine and accepting of transexuals/homosexuals including the ones you know personally. But in the other you're arguing that we should be selectively aborted, and that we aren't "harmless". Can you explain this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:29 PM
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That's what I'm talking about. No special privileges, no different social conditions, no victimhood complex that demands cis/hetero people cater to us. None of that is equality, after all. But simple acceptance and tolerance for mere differences of orientation or gender really shouldn't be treated as a plague like some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:58 PM
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As a bisexual person who also has gender dysphoria since age five I'm going to have to disagree with the majority of your points. Yes it's true that we have higher suicide rates and lower life quality on average but that is almost exclusively due to the fact that society as a whole still has a big problem with the transexual and homosexual communities. Not to mention some of our families have a problem with it too. I can say that my own family which is a traditionalist one has very strict ideas …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 12:33 PM
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Hmm, I've never heard of that. Every person I've seen hit in the groin has gone down like a box of rocks. I think the wild animal thing is the body going into shock. I have a coworker who lose a finger in a carpentry accident, and he said he didn't feel anything for the first hour after it occurred. But that is a different position to be in. As for the guy beating you to death...if I'm kicking you in the balls, being killed is what I believe you're trying to do to me anyway, so it wouldn't chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:31 AM
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Why would they elect to have selective abortions for non-refundable or disabling traits? I could see doing it for things like spina bifida, Tay-Sachs, Cystic Fibrosis, Huntington's, sickle cell disease, and other genetic disorders that cause pain and early death. But for something as harmless as homosexuality and transsexuality, both of which only affect a minority of the population, seems odd to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:27 AM
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I also have an issue with that, especially in today's SJW/liberal regressive culture. Personally, I'm a Libertarian centrist, and truly dislike what the regressive left is doing to the topic of gender right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 10:21 AM
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In my head anything a male does is masculine and anything a female does is feminine. And to a certain extent this is true. Other than childbirth and impregnation, there are literally no actions I can think of that are necessarily masculine or feminine. Men and women alike can be equally good politicians, florists, architects, parents, construction workers, librarians, physicists, artists, ballet dancers, or any other job you could conceive of. I wouldn't ever say otherwise. It's really more of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:27 PM
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It's not so bad unless I'm around my family, because all my friends treat me just like one of their fellow guys. I suppose I can't not believe in a gendered brain, because there's too much evidence for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:45 PM
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I mean, I have gender dysphoria. I'm a female with a masculinized brain...that doesn't make me male however.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:14 PM
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What is the point of doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:13 PM
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That's fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:49 PM
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They are two pronged infertile: 1) they are culturally infertile, in that the communities they exist in tend to not promote children; 2) the people who take hormones and have sex reassignment surgery are physically infertile. I was mainly thinking of male->female, but I'd assume a girl who takes loads of testerone would also be infertile. The culturally infertile I can understand. I do not think that the introduction of increased testosterone makes a transman infertile however, because of the 2 …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:47 PM
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They tend to be infertile anyway, so irrelevant. Have​ you actually seen studies showing that transmen or gender dysphoric females tend to be incapable of pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 10:00 AM
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Is this just a cumbersome way to say women? In some instances, yes it would be. But it could also simply be a more accurate description of someone. For example, I'm a female bodied person but have a masculinized brain, so there's a biological dissonance between mind and body.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:57 AM
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even now people who are trans advocates don't admit to the difference. Can't say I've ever seen this. What exactly is the argument these people rely on? Are they actually trying to say that there is no such thing as a chromosomal sex? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:52 AM
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I wouldn't say "Alpha", because that entails a bunch of other traits according to TRP, some of which are undesirable. But yes, I firmly believe that some women should be WGTOW just as some men should be MGTOW. It doesn't mean you can't have sex, date, have opposite sex/gender friends, or shun males entirely...but it's definitely a good idea for some females to not get married or have kids. It would just bog them down into an unwanted domesticated setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:47 AM
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And yet a lot of women search for it on Pornhub. Which counters your anecdotal view here. Since when is 5% "a lot"? I'd say that's a minority, and not even a significant one at that. I would also argue the porn you do watch isn't really the BDSM kind but more normal porn that is more story heavy (As you mentioned). No. Uh, no offense but did you read my comment above? I specifically said "Not entirely my cup of tea because they tend to be too story oriented, but it's good to look at what normal …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:29 AM
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That's a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:00 AM
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Truth, but I refuse to believe I'm a "unicorn".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:50 PM
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Perhaps to these people it would be. Just thought it should be clarified, y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:49 PM
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Take it as you will...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:48 PM
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-They have haphephobia like me. -They grew up in a very religious household and only believed in dating if they were going to have kids. -They have gynophobia due to past abuse by a woman. -They have a social disorder which makes it difficult to relate to others or adhere to social niceties. -They were in a sex segregated private school. -They were hyper focused on school/grades. -They moved a lot as a teen and didn't have time to make long-lasting friendships or romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:48 PM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:14 PM
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If I was actually good with women, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:00 PM
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Nah. There could be many reasons for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:00 PM
1

Ah, ok. That's not so weird, most people are cis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 12:59 PM
1

I'm now googling "sushi documentary" because I've never seen this before
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:14 AM
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I'm not into CrossFit, but everything else is a-ok! And the CrossFit is also cool so long as he doesn't expect me to do it too. I'll play videogames while he does that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:13 AM
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Even this comes down to personal preference. I'd much rather date a guy who enjoys videogames as much as I do vs one who gets drunk, even if it's only once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:11 AM
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It's good to see that some feminists are not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:08 AM
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Lol, I know. It's just really mind boggling...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:07 AM
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I'd throw humility in there as well, but yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:11 AM
2

Those are 2 entirely different words with different meanings, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:11 AM
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A quarter of straight porn searches by women are for videos featuring violence against their own sex. What do they classify as "violence"? Is a mere spanking violent enough to make their list, or are they actually looking at rougher BDSM porn that involves choking, flogging, etc? And given that nowadays you can find a plethora of home-made BDSM porn vids where it's not just people getting paid to do those things, is it somehow still "bad" to be a masochist who gets off on the idea of controlled …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:50 AM
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No offense, I don't see how any of it is difficult to observe directly. After about 1 month of dating someone, you should be able to know the answers to most if not all these points unless the only thing you do is "Netflix and chill" or go to dinner every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:12 AM
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Does it matter if they are same-gender friends instead of same-sex friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:53 AM
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Idk if I'd go that far, friend. People get offended over everything. Last week, I said "gesundheit" to a dude who sneezed near me in Walmart, and he glared at me while saying foreign languages don't belong in America Amurica. People never stop instilling a constant sense of whatthefuckery in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:51 AM
2

Hmm. What about this list is impractical?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:46 AM
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This is my list. It can obviously be used for both sexes, but I phased it as talking about a male partner since that's what you asked. How he treats those who are subservient to him, either temporarily (cashiers, wait staff) or permanently (pets, animals in general). Attracts the trust and respect of others without ever demanding or expecting it. Is confident in the abilities he has and honest about the ones he doesn't. They acknowledge the strengths of others without being jealous of them, whet…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 12:28 AM
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Heh. Technically yes, it is still a disorder because it's not how one's brain is supposed to work. But it's a disorder that has helped me through some very rough times, and though I do have other issues, I'm glad my mind was strong enough to fracture but not break.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 07:22 PM
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Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:10 PM
1

Indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:10 PM
1

If your brain worked a certain way for 2/3 of your life and didn't cause any troubles...and in fact helped you to interact with the world more efficiently in a compartmentalized way...would you want to change that? If pieces of your conscience and emotions were "separate" enough to give you actual advice and help you control the current persona you display to the world... would you want to lose that ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:09 PM
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Lol. If you say so. To me, it reads like the opposite of a die-hard feminist manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:02 PM
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No, none of "us" want treatment. Typically "we" don't disagree with much since we are all actually the same person after all. The only slight disagreement is how to solve certain issues, but there's unanimous decision to solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:28 PM
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Maybe? I honestly didn't know where he is going with that...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:26 PM
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Precisely. I think that most of it is good advice for both sexes, actually...be the best version of yourself, don't put up with people who disrespect you, expect maturity from your partner, exercise, be aware of idiotic shit tests, don't be a doormat, have confidence in your abilities, etc...are all excellent. It's just cringy when dudes go all Edgy McMyChemicalRomance or Dudebro Thunderdickson. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 02:26 PM
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There's more abused men and women than anyone would like to admit, unfortunately. 😔 For those who actually seek treatment, I hope it goes well. Personally, I have not because "we" have reached an understanding of how things in "our" life should be and at this point it seems absurd to try and normalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 10:59 AM
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Uhh most girls lick sweaty chest hair Lol. What? Sure some small leak of vulnerability like "I love puppies" How is this a vulnerability? Many people like dogs, they are a fairly staple addition to most people's lives. It's only natural that we'd like baby dogs too, and want to protect them due to their "cuteness" like we do with human babies. or "my poor grandma" Again, how is showing worry and empathy for a family member a vulnerability? It just shows you care about someone you're related to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 10:14 AM
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Yeah a lot of it is common sense. Stuff we would talk about in the pub 20 years ago. The thing is when it's on the internet it's suddenly shocking. Idk, perhaps it's my Purpleness showing, but there is really only a small portion of TRP that is actually shocking when you get to the bare bones of it. Otherwise, most of it is either common sense advice or a brand of motivational writing for those who need a kick in the ass to get them improving themselves. The only things that keep me Purple inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 09:14 AM
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It seems to be a universal disorder, from what I can tell. This is an excellent article that clears up a lot of commonly held misconceptions about DID, and it says that about 1-3% of the population have it. These are similar rates to other schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, although DID is much more difficult to detect than those. https://psychcentral.com/lib/dispelling-myths-about-dissociative-identity-disorder/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 09:04 AM
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Well, yeah. Some of us do enjoy our echo chambers for some reason. But that mindset exists everywhere. I saw the same exact thing happening when "atheism+" reared it's head, and r/Feminism has been known to ban people or delete posts that fail to toe the line of what they consider acceptable conversation. Hell, there's a bunch of people on the regressive left like Steve Shives, who's actually said that he'd like to completely remove entire YouTube channels like Armoured Skeptic and The Amazing A…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:54 AM
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Yep. Maybe you might try to find a meetup for autistic people? Idk about that. Pretty sure it'd be disrespectful to attend. Also, Clarity, do you think your trauma caused it to be hard for you to interact with or relate to women, or made you super masculine? No, not really. I thought of myself as a guy before any of that began happening. Heck, a few years ago my mom even found some of my old kindergarten tests she'd squirreled away as keepsakes and on the ones that asked you to circle your "sex"…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 02:29 AM
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To put it short, picking up girls as a a red pill is hard work and has a low success rate. But getting girls as a blue pill has worked for me 100% of the time (so far). What differed between these 2 methods the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:23 AM
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I'm bi, so I've tried dating women in the past, two of whom we're lesbians. Unfortunately, those didn't last more than 5 or 6 weeks. 🙄 It'd certainly be interesting to meet a woman with Asperger's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:21 AM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:18 AM
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It just worked out that way. I have actually tried to get/keep female friends but it never lasts for long. I don't understand how to communicate indirectly and mess up with reading between the lines... something I've learned is a necessary skill for many female discussions. I typically end up being walked on and taken advantage of because I'm generous with my little bit of money, or I accidentally offend them and it only gets worse when I try to apologize. So I'm happy with my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:22 PM
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Ah...so not real friendships. More like manipulative friendzoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:13 PM
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Ah...so not real friendships. More like manipulative friendzoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:13 PM
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☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:13 PM
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Interesting. Why would she leave her friends behind just because of a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:36 PM
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Exactly! I think that it's a huge red flag when you meet women who proudly talk about having no female friends. If you wear it as a badge or something... that's messed up. But if you just really have trouble connecting with females who share your interests, that's not so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:35 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:31 PM
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Truth. And when I was a kid/pre-teen, I did have friends of both sexes. But puberty seems to change people. 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:31 PM
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Oh, I do have friends. Just not any female ones. But yeah, like yourself, I care very deeply about my friends. Can't really imagine what my life would be like without them!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:29 PM
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Similar ones, yes. But not this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:09 PM
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Hmm, that's true. Not a very large percentage of the population there...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:08 PM
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Yup! It's a very important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:09 PM
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Not everyone, no. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:08 PM
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Interesting. How do you get to "share the power"? And is it really worth it, if the excitement is so fleeting? Wouldn't it be preferable to pursue guys you're attracted to in more permanent ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:30 PM
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Not for me. I do want power over my own life, don't get me wrong, but seeing someone's power over their life does nothing for me. I'd rather buy a winning lotto ticket or be hired to a good paying job than just be in a relationship with someone who has that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:11 PM
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Yeah, I can't stand that. I can empathize with people who've had similar experiences, struggles, and issues more than someone who's ​life has been utterly different and just happens to share the same biological sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:08 PM
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Why? Like, what about it is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:47 PM
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It's kinda just like saying everyone experiences​ both sides of the coin, but at different times. Both men and women are oppressed, usually in separate ways that also reflect a corresponding privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 02:41 PM
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Yruth. I personally believe in Schrodinger's Oppression... everybody is oppressed and privileged simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:58 AM
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Read my comment again. I wasn't talking about relationships or marriage, I was specifically referring to ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:27 AM
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Well, it's Purple Pill debate, so I'd say it's an equal opportunity to debate RP and BP...or encourage debate between different Purple Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:26 AM
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Lol. I like your new definition of "balanced". 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:25 AM
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Why do you only want to talk about one side? I mean, I'm the same. I will talk about men's rights and MGTOW til the sun goes down but usually don't stand up for women's rights...but my reasoning behind that is because women have a shit load of people speaking out for/protecting them and men do not. So my rationale is trying to give aid where it is severely lacking, not where a flood of support already​ exists​. So what is your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:02 AM
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Being a Libertarian and moral objectivist doesn't mean you are incapable of debating in good faith...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:55 AM
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I understand that power/status are attractive to women, but how do women benefit from the power/status if it's just sex or an ONS or whatever? This is what I can't wrap my head around. I'll acknowledge that RPers seem correct in their assertion that high status/wealth are attractive to many (not all) women but it only really makes sense if you think that said female's sexuality is responding to the idea of mating with that guy in exchange for his resources. But if it's just a ONS and she knows h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 09:47 AM
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Modern feminists are all about transgender people being born with a brain that's closer to the opposite sex. Except for TERFs...They tend to hate our guts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 08:49 PM
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You best post an actual pic of these shoes, son.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:37 PM
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I have read on askwomen threads that the mere sight of a tall man makes for wet vaginas. Is this true? Lol. No, absolutely not. What an incredibly bizarre assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 03:36 PM
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I'm a non-cis female, my fwb is a male. We do not cover up/lie about anything to each other anymore but previously we kept information regarding our desires from the other. For example, it was probably about 4 years into our relationship that I finally disclosed my masochistic side to him because I felt extremely​ guilty for needing/enjoying pain. In turn, it was roughly the same amount of time... maybe a little longer... before he told me about some of his more "outlandish" kinks, like pet-play…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:50 PM
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Wow! He's already better than, like, 90% of other deities!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 11:17 AM
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Do you think the Almighty Jawsus will mind that I'm also an adherent of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (who touches us all with his noodly appendages, forever and ever, ramen)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 10:45 AM
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There's a lot to be said for the inner strength of someone who can use humor in the face of their trials and challenges​. 🏆
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:28 PM
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I love you a little bit, Window, just because of your jawesome comments. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:00 PM
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Agree completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:59 PM
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Exactly. It's not that typical female hobbies are inferior or less important, it's that they are boring to those of us with typically male hobbies like gaming. I could play Skyrim from sunrise to sunset on a Saturday...but would want to throw myself off a damn bridge after 1 hour of clothes shopping with my sisters or watching them get their nails/hair done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:57 PM
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Is this...was this true of the men you've dated? I mean, my dear old dad and stepfather did these things, yeah, but not a single one of the men I've chosen to hang out with or be intimate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:01 PM
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You think that very few men would do this...? 😯
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:55 PM
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Exactly. I was going to host a D&D night at my place tonight and almost all my friends were going to come over, but now I have to call and let them know that because they are men our friendships ​obviously just aren't good enough... 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:23 AM
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I'm sorry that it seems most of the men in your life have been shitty examples. And no, I don't mean that in a condescending or virtue signalling way... I'm honestly sympathetic to your situation, if you have truly not met any/many good men. Kind of like how I'm sympathetic to the MGTOW I speak with who also seem to have not met any/many good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:18 AM
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Yo, squidilicious. How's life treating you? Yeah, unfortunately that's the impression I'm getting as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:08 AM
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Wait...so you find friendships with men more fulfilling than friendships with women, but you're going to let studies that didn't involve you or people you know influence your thoughts regarding said friendships? That's honestly a bit bizarre. Believe me, I enjoy science, reading studies, finding new information, etc but even when a social study has over 1,000 subjects and they all report the same thing... I'm not going to change my own perceptions or reactions to fit this data. It will just be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:07 AM
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Kink does imply unusual, yes, and I won't lie... some of the kinks I've engaged in do require a lot of work (breastfeeding kink, for example). But not every kink is necessarily labor-intensive, and some are just about adopting a different mindset for a short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:40 AM
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Considering a different position or viewpoint doesn't mean it invalidates ​the one you hold. It just means you're able to acknowledge that we have individual experiences​ that do not match. I'm a non-cis female who greatly prefers friendships with men and doesn't find fulfillment in same-sex friendships despite trying very hard to. Obviously you have the opposite experience, and find female companionship to be more fulfilling. Neither of us are wrong...we just aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:36 AM
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So the only evidence you accept is peer reviewed articles​?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:20 AM
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Do you think kinkiness is more of a young person's activity? It's a "young person's activity" in that people who are new to sex are more likely to try out new things. But the continuation of those kinks can last into any age if you find one(s) you enjoy. There's also something to be said about having a partner who's willing to actually try new things with you vs having only vanilla partners. For example, my fwb had 12 partners before me but I'm the only one who has ever agreed to anal sex, BDSM,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:18 AM
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I would argue against it, but if you aren't going to accept personal experience even for the purpose of conversation, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't do any good. I'll simply say that other women have always been far more difficult for me to keep as friends than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:10 AM
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How do ppl develop these weighty requirements they drag around with them and get in their way of enjoying a little giggling and groping and getting it? Like srsly I really want to know. Why would having a kink or desire for a certain type of sex "get in the way" of enjoying giggling and groping? Just because I really enjoy insert kink here doesn't mean I can't also enjoy vanilla sex act. That's like saying you can't like pizza because you also love Mexican food...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:39 AM
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Sex is extremely important to me, both on a physical and emotional level, so I don't think I could sustain a LTR with a guy who wouldn't be willing to at least try some of my kinks. But no, I could not stay with a purely "vanilla" dude. It wouldn't be fair to either of us and sexual compatibility is something I don't think one should ever settle on or disregard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:34 AM
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Hear, hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 10:39 PM
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I don't​have problems with opposite sex friendships...in fact, all my friends are male. But I do have a lot of difficulty keeping opposite gender friends. It's not that I don't think they'd be good friends, it's simply that our perspectives always seem to be too different to maintain any close companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 09:17 PM
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All relationships are transactional. I give companionship/friendship of myself in exchange for companionship/friendship of my fwb. He gives sex to me, I give sex to him. We give each other small gifts without needing a reason beyond that of wanting to make us happy. Just because something is transactional doesn't mean it is selfish, bad, or unbalanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:41 PM
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Yeah, it fucking sucks getting hit on your genitals. Definitely not something you do to a person unless they are trying to rape or murder you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:36 PM
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Women are free to think men are like white cotton/locks/age like milk/etc.; but can't really demand that men think of them as keys/diamonds/age like wine. Oh definitely, just like how women have no obligation to think of men as diamonds/wine/keys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:29 PM
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Which I can completely agree with from an individual standpoint. Like with your example of an individual woman getting her just desserts, or when I found out that the guy who was my worst bully in high school was a raging alcoholic with no job. It does feel good to see those who actually took advantage of us to experience karma. But it falls apart when it's on a general level, because you have no idea what that specific stranger was like. You can't know if karma is being served...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:09 PM
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So very similar to getting kicked on your clit... Immense pain, pelvic cramping, trouble breathing, nausea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:06 PM
1

Well of course! In 2010, I'd be worth about 11 goats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:04 PM
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It's a drug-like high that people get addicted to, write songs and poetry about and shit. It's not just lust, it's romantic desire too. Ah. Then that explains it. I'm not a romantically inclined person, so I've never experienced this high before. Sexual needs and desire for friendship/companionship, I understand and have, though. People also call it "being in love". Hmm. Imo, loving someone just means you'd die for them if it came down to it, and that you prioritize their well-being on the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:32 PM
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So you do know why BPers sometimes say that RP guys hope women hit the wall...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 10:51 PM
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I did. It said "the state of being obsessed or infatuated with another person and the desire to have those feelings reciprocated". It just doesn't sound like something associated with emotional or physical highs, just more politically correct way to say you lust after someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 10:49 PM
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Yeah. Not all, but enough of them that it's a pretty common trope. That and the beliefs​ that "women age like milk, men age like wine" or that gross "vagina = lock, penis = key" analogy that crops up now and then. I agree with some things RPers say, just like I agree with some things BPers say, but not those...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:28 PM
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Stick with me, pal. We'll make millions on undead energy sources, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:25 PM
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What on Earth is a "limerence high"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:21 PM
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I didn't get the feeling from OP that he believes 100% of people need to be married/matched, only that it would be better for those who do want to be wed be included in a sort of matchmaking service. Doesn't sound like he meant it to be mandatory...if so, then yeah, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:19 PM
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Sweet! Are you going to hook them up to generators, too? Might as well get some further use out of it...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:14 PM
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Why do bloops always assume that we would "hope" for women to hit the wall? I'm not a BP, but you can't really deny that at least some of the guys in TRP experience a sort of schadenfreude when they write about how all single women past the age of 30 will become barren, miserable cat ladies with only their antidepressants and memories of fucking Chads to keep them company. Even your own comment above hints at this, although I don't think you mean you believe AWALT in regards to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:13 PM
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Bwahahaha! This is the best frickin analogy I've ever seen!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:03 PM
2

Which is unfortunate, because there's already more than enough unplanned pregnancies in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:09 PM
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Yeah, that's why I don't think it'd be actual corpses. A lot of horror/sci-fi hybrids try to involve things like nanobots or other reanimation knockoffs, but that just doesn't seem feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:08 PM
1

That seems like a very broad generalization...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:43 PM
1

Oh shit, son! And here I thought that most of us were just sheeple, not zombies...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:42 PM
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It's not at all uncommon for girls to say this during casual sex Whoa. No thanks. If a dick I didn't know was going anywhere in me, it better be fucking wrapped. Pregnancy + STDs = Nope. Anyway pullout is roughly as effective as condoms That is true, but I still wouldn't trust it by itself, just like I wouldn't trust a condom by itself. Luckily, my guy is vasectomized, but I also have a Planned Parenthood a few miles from my home so if I ever do have sex with another guy it would be relatively e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:41 PM
1

What do you think it is, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:31 PM
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Semi-fun, semi-morbid topic: When the Zombie Apocalypse happens, what form do people think it will take and how likely would you be to survive? A zoonotic rabies-like virus Lingering brain damage as a result of chemical warfare Medical advancement gone wrong Induced by a combination of recreational drugs Something that is currently dormant in our genetic code Parasitic infection from fungi such as cordyceps I think that #1, 3, and 6 are most likely to occur. I have just enough survival skills th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:27 PM
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Eh, what can I say? I'm almost always content, but his happiness makes me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:10 PM
1

Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:08 PM
1

But then he wouldn't be a cis dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:08 PM
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Some do move to foreign countries where the laws are not so gynocentric and do just that. But it wouldn't solve the potential issue if they were to bring their new wife here, because then they'd just be back under the current hyper-liberal Western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:55 PM
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Yup! And it's good that you're doing the best for yours. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:52 PM
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Oh, it definitely is. My INTJ is complemented incredibly well by his ENFP. It's just that he sometimes slips back into his old ways of dealing with women and "forgets" that I don't really care about the same things they did/don't put much weight on minor inconveniences. For example, one of his apologies yesterday was because he was excited to tell me about some rare Magic cards he pulled and called me at 8am when I was still asleep. (I wake up at 5am Mon-Fri, so try to sleep in on the weekends.)…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:49 PM
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See? That's where we differ, and I can appreciate how in your family situation that would be a potentially good thing for your bf to speak with them beforehand. Conversely, I haven't spoken to my father since I was 20 (13 years ​ago) and even that last time was only because he found out where I worked and showed up unannounced. I definitely would not want my fwb to ever have to be in the presence of him or my monster of an ex-stepfather. On the other hand, my mother would mean well because she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:42 PM
1

Almost the exact opposite of mine, lol. He's ENFP, and highly emotional both inwards and outwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:32 PM
1

Not true. The internet is for porn, lulz came much later.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:16 PM
2

Why would a man spend months on end pretending to be a woman with gender dysphoria, when he could just be a normal dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:56 PM
2

The ones who do not interact with women on romantic levels are rarely gay (although it does happen statistically speaking). Instead they are voluntarily abstinent. I've never met or spoken to a bisexual MGTOW, but again, statistically there are probably some. The majority do not remain sexually abstinent, however. Most still have short-term relationships, hire escorts, visit brothels, have ONS, or have friends-with-benefits. Basically, sexual partners that understand there will be no marriage or…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:46 PM
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Wow, this is a very well written and on point essay. Can't say there's anything that I disagree with in it, as it talks equally about how things could be vs how things actually are, and has neither misogyny against the female sex as a whole or the type of misandry against betas I've come to expect from TRP. It may be because I'm already pro-MGTOW/WGTOW, but it seems like a good series of bullet points to adopt, for both sexes. Kudos!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:41 PM
3

How can there be no exceptions, when even you have admitted that I'm an outlier? Or are you saying "all" as in 95%?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:34 PM
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"you don't have to use a condom." Holy shit. That sounds like a red flag if ever there was one...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:31 PM
2

Yup. I'm so glad someone got my reference!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:28 PM
2

No idea. I'd be pretty damn offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:27 PM
1

Well, you are definitely allowed to want that. I would be very displeased with the very idea, because he would be marrying me not them, I'm an adult, and they have no idea what is good for me as an individual anyway. It's probably because we have very different families.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:27 PM
2

It stands for "Men Going Their Own Way". It is essentially an active and deliberate form of bachelorhood, brought about by the demonization of the male sex by modern society. Men in the general MGTOW community distrust feminists and SJWs for obvious reasons, although some also distrust the female sex as a whole. They are men who've decided that marriage and/or romantic relationships with women are not worth pursuing due to the gynocentrism inherent in the judicial system, and because of the perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:24 PM
1

I believe you, man. I'm trying to pass along the idea of MGTOW to the warehouse guys I work with, but without specifically using the acronym because you never know who else might be listening. It's met varying levels of success, but has been mostly well received so I'm hopeful that the guys will at least take the idea of living for their happiness instead of female validation to heart. Even though I'm a female they know I'm not cis-gendered and some of them have commented positively or asked que…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:19 PM
1

I have no idea. Maybe there is one? I just know that I'm not the only one in the world who likes soft guys, although it's obviously not a common preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:11 PM
1

Unfortunately, most think that people like me are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:24 AM
1

Really not sure what this survey is trying to look for, but my fwb apologized to me 4 times in the last 24 hours. However, it should be noted that he's one of those types who says he's sorry for no actual reason/things that don't matter (to me).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 10:27 AM
2

Thankfully, it seems that the rates of marriage are going down anyway. The men and women of my generation are either getting married older, or not getting married at all. Some of this is MGTOW/WGTOW, but I think more of it is the changing landscape of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:53 AM
2

All these match almost perfectly: 20% of men have 80% of sex/offspring. Human mate selection is based on alpha male of a group fucking most, if not all, of females. Citation? I know that this ratio held true for a portion of human history, but don't see much evidence for it being true today or even in the last couple centuries. Which, again, we can easily observe today by how varied porn aimed at males is, and how monolithic and "Chad-centric" female erotica is. Have you read/seen any erotica wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:42 AM
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Ever seen a girl stay single and have a lot of casual sex and then finally get a guy? Imo, it's because that guy has a 8-10 inch and THICK penis to tame her. So...his dick detaches from his body, dons a red vest with white pants, picks up a whip and chair, and tames the woman in a circus tent while hundreds of people look on with bated breath? Kinky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:06 AM
3

Justice, thy name is Chin!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:02 AM
2

Dear stars above that is the stuff of nightmares
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:58 AM
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I wonder how many goats I'm worth. At least 15, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:56 AM
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People still do that nowadays? That's really frickin weird, even if it is for a "blessing" instead of permission. Like, if I suddenly got a head injury and became pro-marriage, I wouldn't try to ask my lover's parents for their "blessing" to marry their son.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:55 AM
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fathers should be asked for permission (56% versus 61%) Lol. Permission for what? We're not living in the Middle Ages anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 11:17 PM
3

True, bit sometimes a guy just wants to relax and be the fuckee instead of the fucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 11:08 PM
1

I'm not a straight female, I'm bisexual and am not feminine. Regardless, I prefer men who are overweight, not muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 10:59 PM
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And doing a shit job of it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 11:42 AM
1

I have to step in and ask why the hell you're so incredibly mocking of Spreadsheet Sex Guy. Seriously, did you even use any archived material to read the original post his wife made? Here's ​the spreadsheet, at least: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/YzWn3Hw Yeah maybe it was a little odd to keep such careful track for a month and a half but y'know what? It's not like the first time these excuses happened so he really can't be blamed for trying to find a pattern somewhere. It's what those of us with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:54 AM
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I'm not very familiar with the cuckold fetish community, so can't say I know the exact reasoning behind their sexual kink. But maybe some of them are like my guy, and they just want an open relationship and are encouraging of their female partners to find other men so they can pursue other women guilt-free?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 08:57 AM
1

So you believe in a single foundation of human nature that all homo sapiens are inherently born with? Is that your basis for believing "all people are like that"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 08:52 AM
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Why would he be with a woman who had sex with 11 of his friends anyway? That would be bizarre and certainly cause a few awkward moments when they hang out. I'm unsure of what your scenario has to do with my question though...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 08:49 AM
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Lol. For you, perhaps. Personally I'd be over the moon if I found out mine was barren.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 08:45 AM
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You know what is weird? I can deep throat my guy, but I can't swallow pills or chug anything. One would think all 3 would be simple to do if 1 is...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:26 AM
2

FoS?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:23 AM
1

Wait, how did she hand out sex for free? Most of the Red Pillers around here have assured me at length that sex is never, ever free, even in cases where the female is a nympho who's DTF anytime and she takes you out to dinner/buys you gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:22 AM
1

As you should be. Marriage is hardly male friendly anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:18 AM
1

Why would you "discard" your partner after your love has gone from being infatuation to mature love, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:15 AM
2

I already see AWALT as positive. Hell, I learned from it and adopted useful parts into myself! Interesting. Can you share what you find positive about denying a person's individuality, and what you've presumably adopted into your own version of AMALT? For the record, I do not believe in AMALT or AWALT and generally see the Feminists​ and Red Pillers use these as negative terms, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:13 AM
2

Eh, you just have to learn to relax your throat muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 09:53 PM
2

Funny how that works out... 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 07:28 PM
1

Lol. I think that only works on females who are attracted to muscles...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 07:10 PM
5

The only good Chad is a Chad who stays far, far away from me and my potentially fertile womb. 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:29 PM
2

I've dated about 17 other men and women in my life this far, but the only relationship that has lasted over 2 months is with my fwb. We've been sexually intimate friends for the last 11 years, and were "just" friends for 2 years prior to that. He isn't the first person I've ever dated, and I have gone out with other people since meeting him, but he's the only one I've had sex with and is just...idk. The only one who's proven to be worth "staying" with? I'm sure that being close companions helps …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:13 PM
1

That's a thoughtful gift, it'd be romantic to me. Gifts to make him happy that are related to something personal about him are romantic for sure. It's like my grandma said, if you don't put thought into a gift it's not worth getting. Haha, no clichés for you. These things are more about the temporary experience of them I think. You're probably right. They'll be more likely to think similarly and have similar demeanors. Though I suppose you could want a totally different type too. Possibly? Altho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 03:31 PM
3

Ha! What a coincidence...😉
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:10 PM
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Because it may or may not be true on an individual level. I have absolutely no need or desire to procreate. I've weighed the opinions, was very involved in the raising of my numerous younger siblings, babysat throughout all of middle school and high school for money, and decided when I was about 16 or so that children were pretty great...Just that having my own was not for me. I prefer being free of those responsibilities and able to live my life without needing to ensure care for another human …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:27 PM
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It's okay. I just wanted to make sure I knew what you meant. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:14 AM
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Sorry, I think the syntax of your comment is slightly off...are you saying people "settle" for their partner if they only have 70% of what they are looking for in one? I wasn't talking about just looks, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:58 AM
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Yeah, we've discussed it before, I do understand the "whys" behind your choice of recreational​s even if I wouldn't do it myself. Was just checking in, since I consider you a friend here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:54 AM
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Prefer them over...who? Or what? Someone who is utterly flawless and therefore imaginary? If you feel like you're settling for your partner that's not a good foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:35 AM
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Kinda thought so. Don't quite get the Madonna/Whore complex, or I guess the female equivalent of having wild, kinky sex with casual partners/dates but then not with their husbands. ...also, your new flair is concerning. Doing alright?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:32 AM
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Like no dates and surprising each other? We do dates like going out to eat, going to movies, gaming or comic conventions​. Do unexpected gifts count as a surprise? I got him a new House Lannister mousepad for work last week since the ones the school supplies him are just boring grey. Little gifts like that are frequent purchases of mine but I wouldn't consider them "romantic", it's just buying something that will make him happy. "Romantic" sounds sappy, like for people who are twitterpated with …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:22 AM
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I just assumed it's because you also hold hands and do sweet things all day with your wife so it seems incongruent to go from anal cream pie to watching the sunset. It's not so absurd if you simply acknowledge that your partner is multifaceted like all human beings are. Maybe it's just us, but my fwb and I can go from having kinky animalistic sex one minute and then when we're done we can immediately just lie in bed talking about what happened at our jobs that day. It's just a compartmentalizati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:32 PM
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We don't do romantic stuff, but yeah...we do love each other. I want to eventually have other casual sex partners like he has, so I remain hopeful that I'll find another guy or three who are like him someday!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 10:22 PM
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I've only ever really had sex with my lover, but he's had sex with people he has both loved and who he's only liked/known from his classes during his college days. To quote him: Sex with someone you only have a passing affection for vs someone you love is like comparing a Big Mac to a homecooked steak dinner. They're both good for getting rid of your hunger but one is going to be much more fun, memorable, and satisfying than the other. Sex with someone you really care about and who cares about y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:36 PM
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Need some strange? That's fine, just tell me and go about it honestly. Don't lie and sneak around like a shitty snake. Yes, exactly! Lying about your sexual needs or desires is the direct opposite of a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:13 PM
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Let's say you had a man who provided for you, lavished you with expensive gifts, gave all his love and attention to you, was attentive towards all your emotional needs etc Lol. I wouldn't be with a guy like that anyway...I can't afford to reciprocate like that financially and I utterly refuse to be in a relationship that makes it look like I'm being "bought". Equals in most things, please. but decided to cheated on you with another woman that was purely a physical encounter (no emotional attachm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:58 PM
1

What's weird to one person is normal to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 09:25 AM
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These in order to make good on said lust and heat, consent is a necessary addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:03 PM
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Lol, I realize that. I was making a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:02 PM
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Some of them, definitely. I have a lot of trouble finding women to be friends with...but I'm confident they're out there. After all, if all my friends can "tolerate" the fact I don't have a penis, there should be other females who are like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:02 PM
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Haha, lucky guy. Do you do things to increase the chances of him being in the mood often? There's not much I can do. I already initiate about 90% of the times we're together. He knows I'd gladly have sex with him at any time, but there will always be mental stressors that prevent him from actually using this knowledge, especially during the winter. To me both the act and intent matter. The intent makes it okay, acceptable, desired. But even when it's desired, you still consider it to be violent?…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:00 PM
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True. But you just asked how it happened, so I was giving an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:55 PM
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99.999% of the time, sex is a great idea. It cures headaches, muscle aches, migraines, gets your thoughts off of painful shit temporarily, helps you sleep, rejuvenates your mindset, increases closeness to your partner, provides physical relaxation, and is just plain pleasurable. It's one of the best things you can give and receive!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:54 PM
1

Hmm, that's true. I definitely do not enjoy seeing him upset, I just want to do anything and everything to get his mind off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:35 PM
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However I see anything penetrating anyone as an inherently violent and violating act. I know that a lot of RP guys see penetration like this, what is confusing is why. It's just that in my experience of sex (which is admittedly different than most given that it's 2 extremes) penetration can be both violating and violent if consent is not given but when consent is there, no violence or violation is occurring. If one thinks of penetration as inherently violent, then what of envelopment? When my fw…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 10:14 AM
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How, pray tell, does a penis get injured from PIV? It can go in at the wrong angle during intense thrusting, or if he's on the bottom and the woman is heavy or riding him roughly, her pelvis can come down on the base too hard. Look up "broken penis" or "snapped penis" if you have a strong stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:45 AM
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Outside of sex women don't have much to offer. This is where things like shared interests and hobbies comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:41 AM
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My answer would be that I would love to have sex on demand, but not so much the rape. Pretty much this. Consent is actually sexy, contrary to what some people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:39 AM
1

Why? I tend to look down on gold-diggers for being manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:26 AM
1

More issues than a comic book store...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:23 AM
1

I agree that Western marriage is potentially a bad deal for men, that's why I'm anti-marriage/pro-MGTOW. Sexism needs to be addressed, regardless of whether it primarily affects men or women. But I disagree that 100% of people with vaginas are whores. First, there's no need to be, since the majority of us have our own careers and money. Secondly, there are others like myself who actually enjoy paying for the dates and events we go to with our fwbs, boyfriends, or husbands. Not nearly enough to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:22 AM
2

Bwahahaha! Good one, I'll have to remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:13 AM
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Relationship performance and sexual performance. It takes 2 people working at it to keep a relationship going, even a normal friendship would wither and die if only 1 person was doing the giving. LTRs involve love (emotional and physical), respect, compromise, and trust coming from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 09:12 AM
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I agree with the approach and escalation part... unfortunately there really just aren't that many females who pursue males they want. But isn't the burden of performance shared by both, once the dance has begun?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 01:33 AM
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My friend told me this joke a few weeks ago; What's the difference between a slut and a bitch? A slut will fuck anyone. A bitch will fuck anyone except you. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 12:54 AM
2

Honest question: What if you aren't paying for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 12:52 AM
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Seeing a woman you're attracted to. And then pursuing her, getting her to give in to you. Quite predatory, hunter like. Okay, I can understand this part. There's been times when I've had to almost literally hold myself back from pouncing on my guy because I know he's not in the mood. It really is like a hunger that keeps demanding satisfaction. Of course, you don't give in without their permission. Penetration itself can be seen as a violent act. It can be. That doesn't mean it should be seen as…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 12:49 AM
1

Holy shit... This is like a fucking revelation. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 12:31 AM
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This would include the polygamous nature of male sexuality as well as the predatory and violent aspects of it. What parts of male sexuality are inherently predatory or violent? 🤔 A woman that did would be understanding and even promoting a man to fulfill his sexual nature. Can you give an example of what this would look like to an outsider? How would you determine that a female partner is helping to promote their male partner's sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:15 PM
1

But isn't American culture supposed to be one of the worst for men getting empathy from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:07 PM
1

Wait...what? If you're being serious, I'm actually super relieved to hear that, because I honestly thought I was more sadistic than the rest of my personality let's on. Like, I actually do feel an increase in sexual thoughts towards my fwb when he's using me for emotional support, and I've always felt extremely guilty about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 09:20 PM
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Lol, well no. But I would be lying through my teeth if I said my fwb wouldn't come down on me hard if I lost my job and never tried to find another one. We're both very big on having strong work ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:46 PM
2

Well... you're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:43 PM
1

True, but it seems there are cis women here who act the same way. A big part of it is likely not connected to one's sex or brain type, but rather amount of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:43 PM
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For example, a man could open up about his feelings, about some topic, and he could have done it in a manner where the woman perceived it as a sign of strength or courage, and became more attracted to him as a result. Such as him speaking about his feelings in a way that makes him seem like he has control over them or something. Sometimes this could be good, because I don't think either men or women want a partner who falls apart emotionally over every hardship. But too much stoicism can also be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:02 PM
1

Yeah...and not even the fun kind. Sounds more like the "runs with scissors" type of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:41 PM
1

No problem. Just speaking the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:41 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. She was a nuclear bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:08 PM
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Lol. Sleeping is "weak"? Was she alright in the head?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:08 PM
1

Definitely. If it's something deep and genuine, like talking about one's loss of faith, crying from missing one's dead parents or pets, discussing atypical sexual desires, or thinking about one's mortality... those are topics that are heavy hitting but good to have because everybody thinks about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:06 PM
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Have you lost attraction after your man opened up? Nope. In fact, it did the opposite. Every time he's opened himself up to me, I've felt closer to him and really appreciate that he trusts me enough to share these thoughts and emotions with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:33 PM
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For those with the higher sex drive, did your partner start having more sex after your communication? It didn't lead to more sex, but communicating my sexual needs did lead to an increase in sexual understanding. I'd previously believed that he simply didn't find me attractive anymore or that I did something wrong, but it turned out that he was struggling with depression and feelings of being physically unattractive. After we both became aware of how the other was feeling, we compromised by incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:42 PM
1

Huh. Seems like a lot more work than is needed, but I guess it serves it's purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:07 PM
2

Doesn't this assume that the other women are not only looking at the men, but also watching their fellow women for "cues"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 11:15 AM
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I'm not saying it's necessarily"good" or "bad". Unfortunately, as far as I've been able to tell, there were no follow-up questions for either men or women, so we can't know why they chose to message the people they did. The very first time I saw the data, my immediate assumption was that the women were messaging the men they realistically thought they could get for a relationship and the men were messaging the women they wanted to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 11:13 AM
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That's a fair assumption, although I personally find it bizarre when I see men and women say that they don't love their friends. Imo friends are the family you choose, and are therefore definitely worth loving. That just goes moreso for the rare friend you also share the intimacy and vulnerability of sex with. But, it takes all kinds... Good for the 2 of you though :) Thank you. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:19 AM
2

it's a really rough estimation, but you can see it in things like the OKcupid data where women rate 80% of males as "below average" or if you go to a crowded bar/club and see a few guys that will have 4-5 girls around them all competing for his attention while the majority of guys will be fighting over scraps. But the OkCupid data showed that while most of their female subscribers thought 80% of the men were below average in looks, they still messaged them more than they messaged the above avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:14 AM
2

Heh. There's no luck involved, Elite. That's just what you do for someone you love. (In my own understanding of love, anyway.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:48 AM
1

That's true, but it sounded as though the original comment was saying that females who are single and childless are inherently sad and pitiful. My point was that they are likely only sad about their lack of marriage and motherhood if they had actually desired those statuses. Of course it goes the same for men, but the person I was responding to wasn't discussing males.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:45 AM
1

Several 1s? We're playing Hot or Cold now? 😏 I think you're...29. Am I hot or cold?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:42 PM
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Lol, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:30 PM
2

if you put a group of completely average women in a room filled with tall, fit, handsome male underwear models, the majority of women will end up competing for the hottest 20% of the men and ignoring the "ugly" male models, even if the least attractive ones are still much more attractive than an average man on the street. I'm glad you brought this up, because it's something about this 80/20 concept that seems flawed. You say that the majority of the women will compete for the "top 20%", bit woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:29 PM
1

Lol. 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:23 PM
1

Do you think it's because of a lack of cohabitation, or an unwillingness to work things out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:22 PM
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Most guys are fat True. More man to love. 😉😁 and apparently quite a few my age have ED thanks to their shitty lifestyles. Really? 😮 Approximately how old are you? I know you've told me before but then your comment was edited and I don't remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:12 PM
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I lived with my fwb for about 5 months while he was unemployed, to help pay the bills until he found a new job. We both enjoy our space, but it was actually quite pleasant to see each other everyday. I agree that people do change when you live with them vs went you live separately, but don't most people in marriage-minded relationships nowadays actually cohabitate prior to getting hitched? One would think that any bugs could be found and worked on during this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:08 PM
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Yeah, this option makes the most sense, it would seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:04 PM
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Sorry, I'm a Purple Piller, and the concept of Dread in general is one I'm opposed to, in addition to a disbelief in hypergamy and the "need" for a male led relationship...hence why I'm not part of RP. You'd have to ask someone who believes in that stuff. I'm guessing it's included as a step because it really is the last thing you can do...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:55 PM
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Well, my family was actually JW for a while, and it was explained that the 144,000 are indeed the only ones to remain in heaven, but the rest of the saved population will still get to live on a paradise earth forever. (Sorry, I've been an atheist for years at this point but wanted to clear up this slight misconception about the JW belief system...) But yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. I honestly wonder if TRP cares about the "increase" in competition, or if they still believe that it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:51 PM
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Yes, but the foundation of step #12 (as I've always deciphered it) is that you're not trying to "rekindle" anything. You know your marriage or relationship is dead in the water by then, you're just getting your last jollies in before the ship capsizes and pulls you under. Thus, saying that it's bad for relationships and doesn't work to ignite the spark again is...kinda the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:43 PM
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I suppose? Quite a number of them say that things were fine while dating or even during the first year or so of marriage, but then their wife "changed" and it all went to hell in a handbasket.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:40 PM
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The redpill advocates the 80/20 rule in which 80% of women go for 20% of men. However, the redpill also claims that being part of the 20% of men is simply a matter of reading redpill lore, lifting, holding frame and having amused mastery whatever the fuck that is. The thing I'm curious about is how many more men need to join the leagues of RP and become the "top 20%" before they need to start talking about the top 30% instead 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:59 PM
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As much as I don't agree with the use of Dread, I agree with you that cheating is hardly the first thing that TRP says to do. OP seems to be forgetting that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:52 PM
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Lol, what? You think an entire generation is suddenly not loving the ta-tas anymore? I don't believe that, I think it's just that ass is sharing the spotlight nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:50 PM
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Absolutely nothing. But then, I'm of the opinion that you should make friends with people who share your general life outlook, interests, hobbies, and are able to have conversations on topics you're both acquainted with. If that doesn't describe any guys you meet...I wouldn't expect you to have guy friends. If that doesn't describe any girls you meet...then I wouldn't expect you to have girl friends. Either way, it would be hypocritical for me to judge a dude who only has male friends because I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:08 PM
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You don't have to be feminist, you just have to acknowledge that your own lifestyle choices are as important as his are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:22 PM
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Maybe he was teh wrong guy, but women always mirror the lifestyles of the men they date. that's just what dating is for women. Maybe for very small things, but what if there's a part of his lifestyle that is the opposite of what she does? Like, I've been an ovo-lacto vegetarian for the last 20 years/since I was 13...my guy is not interested in becoming vegetarian, and I'm interested in eating any form of meat. There's no reason for either of us to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:21 PM
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Maybe he was teh wrong guy, but women always mirror the lifestyles of the men they date. that's just what dating is for women. Maybe for very small things, but what if there's a part of his lifestyle that is the opposite of what she does? Like, I've been an ovo-lacto vegetarian for the last 20 years/since I was 13...my guy is not interested in becoming vegetarian, and I'm interested in eating any form of meat. There's no reason for either of us to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:20 PM
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Guess that's my problem with it then. If there's one thing in this world I truly cannot stand, it's hypocrisy. Don't talk down to someone for doing X if you do it too, y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 05:00 PM
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No? It's not about "allowed" it is about male and female nature. The terminology for male nature is polygamous. Also, I don't think hypergamy is evil, I went out of my way to highlight the benefits in my OP. No, I didn't mean you specifically say it's evil. It's just something that a lot of RP men and a few women say. I could tell from your OP that you as an individual don't believe it is. I don't see how this is a doubt standard? I highlighted the way it is a double standard in the paragraph ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:40 PM
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A dating market tipped in their favour, the empathy gap and arguably fashion are 3 I'd think of. Huh. Not the 3 things I'd have mentioned, but I agree with the first one. By fashion do you mean the choice to wear pants vs a skirt or dress? And what do you mean by empathy gap exactly? I think I know what you're getting at but don't want to put words in your mouth. Also, I've largely cut women entirely from my life. Not by design, mind you, but sheer coincidence. Same here. I still have my mom and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:26 PM
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Yes, as well as fellow commenter Princeso Bubblegum.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:19 PM
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One would think so, but depending on where you look in the manosphere, there are plenty of men who day they dislike being around their wives to the point that they'll work overtime just to not go home. At that point, why stay "together"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:47 PM
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A single and childless woman in her 40s or 50s is the saddest most pitiful thing in the world. Only if they didn't want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:40 PM
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Wait... I'm sorry in advance if this is super ignorant, but I thought that "weave" was only something that black women did to their hair. White women do it too? 🤔 If so, then I'm going to say that's still a shit-ton of money to spend on one's hair. Like squidracer said, probably about 4-5x more than I've spent in my life. 😅 But hey, whatever makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:36 PM
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I would take hormones, definitely. No doubt about it. Surgery, not so much. You already know how I hating being touched by most people, Window. The thought of being handled by strange doctors...them poking around my innards... while unconscious is certainly not something I'd ever partake of willingly. Heck, I don't think I'd be able to stomach it even to have a tubaligation, and that's something I really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:27 PM
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Ah, I see the confusion now. The handful of times I answered Q4Men, other commenters got pissed because I'm not a male. Which is true... even if I did take hormones, I'd still have female genitals, my fwb would still be a man, and it's not like anyone can see what's in your brain. So to avoid guys getting mad I will usually answer questions related to my sex instead of my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 01:09 PM
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People do not talk about the relationship they are going to have going into a ONS or "casual sex" or "let's fuck" sex. The pre social thing before such events is pure flirtation. Not a lot of deep conversation goes on. Ah, okay. I thought that since you said that some of them were acquaintances that you'd possibly had conversations with them beforehand. Having to explain this kind of thing here, over and over, leads me to believe a most people here are incels. There definitely are quite a few in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 01:02 PM
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Wow. Okay then... That's fucking strange behavior on her part. Sorry you lost a friend over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:56 PM
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What do you mean? It looks like sex appeal or overt action or flat out offering sex. Lol, well those are 3 different scenarios, and thus what I was asking about. I didn't know if one happens more than the other, or if the women you're referring to just go with #3. It's exactly like this 90% of the time, "You accepted my offer for sex we are now a thing and if not you're an asshole and you lied to me!" I'm guessing they say so regardless of anything you've said previously to dissuade them of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:43 PM
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Every woman who has ever tried to pick me up or even go from aquaintence to dating, all they do is offer sex. What does that look like? Honestly curious because I do the opposite and it has always failed. Do they literally just start putting sexual moves on you and then say "you're my boyfriend now, right?" when/if you accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:34 PM
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Huh. Didn't expect to get downvoted for being truthful about my situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:19 PM
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Everything about this comment is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:13 PM
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Idk, it's probably more individual than that. I mean, all my friends are men and the vast majority of them have kids and enjoy being father's. According to most of them, it's something they always planned on doing and they are very glad they did. For the ones who don't have kids, they enjoy spending time with their nieces/nephews whenever possible or even playing with our friends kids when we're all together for gaming. On the other hand, there's me and my fwb. I knew from a young age (15-16) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:11 PM
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Can you link to the study or article, OP? Or at least tell us what the author meant by "influence"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:01 PM
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I'm bisexual, and have dated both men and women. Most people probably wouldn't consider me a transman, because I haven't had surgery or take hormones. I'd prefer for my family to not completely cut off contact with me, you see...I get more than enough flak from them for "dressing like a butch lesbian" (as my mother puts it).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:37 AM
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While you are highly attracted to your partner and in love, your hypergamy is satiated and you don’t see other men as sexual options, you’re not meaningfully attracted to other men, like a sort of blinder. If you start to lose attraction (or if the relationship cannot be maintained), that’s when you become more open to being attracted to other men. ... This is contrary to men’s polygamous nature, in which men are attracted to a bunch of women at the same time (although this does NOT mean men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:32 AM
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For attempted relationships/dating that didn't pan out: I've gone on PoF and made a succinct but informative profile, and took the initiative by contacting over 40 different men. For the ones that contacted me back, I took out to dinner, brought a small token of something they enjoy based on their profiles or homemade snacks, offered to pick them up/drive them home if they had no personal transportation, and overall just was pleasant company. I tried to ensure that our dates were things both of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:03 AM
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I think women enjoy massive advantages in life What are some of the major ones you think exist? IMO, if men stopped tolerating shitty behavior from women, stopped obsessing over pussy, started being pickier in terms of personality, and actually held women accountable for their shitty actions, things would be a lot fairer. I think so too. I also think women need to hold men accountable for their actions as well, and not simply give a pass to those who are "good-looking" or wealthy when they do re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:47 AM
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Interesting. Maybe that's why I didn't have many men responding to my greetings on PoF... maybe they thought I was a bot due to my boring questions about them? Next time I try dating again, I'll have to remember to spice it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:23 AM
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Probably not. I've known people like him before, they always turn out to be psychopaths, abusers, or animal killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 10:20 AM
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Then what should an initial text to someone you don't know look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:43 PM
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I feel like reading pickup material have helped me brush up on my social skills. I am even talking to a dating coach now for $30 a day who's helping me text girls. Before the dating coach, my flirting skills was not existant. Boring text like "Hey. What's up?" "How's it going?" etc. Just texts that bored the fuck out of girls. There's no Automod for Purple Pillers to respond under, but I'm legitimately curious as to what your texts are like nowadays. What exactly was so wrong with a beginning te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:27 PM
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No. His face is devoid of emotion and his eyes are soulless. Might as well be looking at a mannequin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 10:05 AM
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Hmm. Alright. Maybe you Red Pillers don't have a term for it then? Since it doesn't seem to be spoken about often, from what I've seen in your subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:44 PM
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It continues to amaze me just how often your flair proves to be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 09:56 AM
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...what the hell is going on with this thread? Okay, I'll admit I have no love for Chads or Alphas, but fuck... even I wouldn't have used examples of criminals/murderers for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 09:55 AM
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Please tell me you're joking...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 09:51 AM
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That's fair. Then for a woman who's goal is sex, would a Chad be a guy who will only give sex in exchange for her commitment to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 09:49 AM
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Ah. Well, I guess I use the male definition because I've always been around a lot more boys than girls throughout my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 09:47 AM
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Is an exclusive relationship all that matters...? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 10:05 PM
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Nah, I'm going with the male definition. The second guy just barely even qualifies as overweight, much less anyone who could be considered chubby, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 10:04 PM
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What is it on the other side of the coin, when a man rejects a woman for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:41 PM
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Ah...so it's more about the rejection of commitment to a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 05:02 PM
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Interesting. So my guy is a Chad to me because he's a chubby uncommitted nerd and that's what I am attracted to but he'd be an anti-Chad to a RPW who's looking for a traditional relationship. That's kinda what my opinion is too. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 03:57 PM
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I honestly don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 02:11 PM
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It is not, I'm legitimately curious because I have the same opinion as yourself but I'm typically told that is incorrect. Thus, I was wondering if a real consensus could be reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:57 PM
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Lol. I do enjoy your new flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:54 PM
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Ah! I'm sorry, lady...I promise, I will put aside time this weekend to finally try out this IRC thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:53 PM
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So you can only be a Chad if most/a lot of women want to have sex with you? A philosophy of quantity over quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:48 PM
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Ha! I suppose so... except that this "feminine imperative" people talk about is apparently inherently opposite from the "masculine imperative". Atlas would know more about that since she's a Red Piller, not a Purple like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 11:07 AM
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Lol. Comfort |= Commitment. Commitment is exclusivity, typically of the sexually and emotional variety when describing relationships. It may also refer to financial commitment as is usually between married couples. Comfort is the ability to alleviate someone's pain, distress, or grief, usually through empathy, emotional support, validation of their feelings, and physical touch. You can certainly have both in a relationship, but it's disingenuous to say they are the same thing. As it is, my fwb r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 11:02 AM
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Did you leave RPW around the time it became crowded with men trying to give"advice" to the female commenters? Or due to something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 09:51 AM
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Than why do redpillers and incels (who, imo, see the truth for what it really is), say that women ALWAYS pick the hottest and the most succesful. Because many do, and because of confirmation bias/moving the goalposts of what it means to be a Chad. Did you ever get vaggy tingles from guys who were richer and more taller when you were dating your less hotter guy? No, because neither of those traits is an indicator of attraction for me. They are for some females, not for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:54 AM
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Perhaps a bit...Remember that both of us are switches though, in the bedroom and in other aspects of life. Like, when we go to NYC he has the lead because he's been there many times more than I have and it would be nonsensical for him to not use his knowledge of the area. But if we're going to a brand new place...our Las Vegas trip 3 years ago, for example...then I take the lead because I'm better at planning the trip, researching the restaurants, finding us entertainment, and buying the tickets…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:36 AM
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I probably wouldn't be sexually attracted to him or want him as a mate, but sounds like the type of guy I would befriend and work towards a common goal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 01:30 AM
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I suppose that's fair. I do think that a 25 year old guy is almost always going to be more attractive than his 35+ year old self, but acknowledge there are exceptions just like with women. And of course you're not incorrect in your statement, since it's an opinion and thus not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 12:55 AM
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Thankfully, no. Mom divorced him soon after I left.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 12:52 AM
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Sorry, I'm not familiar with this character. Seems like a somewhat Wild West type of show?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 12:50 AM
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Really? You think the majority of men get hotter as they age? At what age do you finally see them as not attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 12:49 AM
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There is no way that 30+ men are more physically attractive than they were in their twenties, unless they make a lifestyle change like losing weight. This. Precisely this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:40 PM
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Whoa. 😨
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:38 PM
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Yeah, but you acted like the sex wasn't a benefit to me or that he's somehow having less sex by being my fwb. Your exact words were "less sex for him, more commitment for you" which plays into the idiotic idea that I'd prefer commitment to sex...and I don't. Our relationship is based on friendship and fucking, we're not committed to each other beyond being best friends. Either of us is 100% free to date or have sex with other people if we chose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 09:10 PM
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What are you smoking, bro? We have sex twice a week and hang out on those same days. Believe me, I'd like to fuck him everyday because I have PGAD, but we live about 1 hour apart and have conflicting work schedules. I hate saying this because it's so fucking cliché at this point, but not all females are frigid bitches who hate sex. If I wanted commitment instead of a trusted friend to fuck, do you really think I'd still be happy in our fwb after 11 years? C'mon dude. You have to be smarter than …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 08:22 PM
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I think most of us do enjoy those topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 07:58 PM
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No...he is a friend-with-benefits but that's very different than a fuck buddy. A fuck budfy is essentially a stable ONS opportunity that you don't spend any time with outside of sex. A friend-with-benefits is literally a really close friend that you hang with/share interests with like a normal companion...plus the added benefit of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 07:58 PM
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Well, he's a fwb, not a fuck buddy...that might be a big part of why we've lasted so long. Neither of us are narcissists or "children" though. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 07:32 PM
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What? It can be, but not every nerd has a job in STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 07:30 PM
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Maybe it's because none of us have any kind of social ritual/occurrence to mark our adulthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 07:07 PM
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Okay...but when you put it that way, it's something I've seen in nearly every man as well. You can only control what your partner wants you to control, after all, unless you're a tyrant or abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 07:06 PM
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How do you figure? I have little actual control over my fwb, and the control I do have is limited to planning for/ providing things we both enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 06:22 PM
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I sometimes wish I could be that way, but it's entirely opposite of how I view sex. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:19 PM
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Only if he asks me to be... 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:07 PM
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No, thank you. At least, not most of the time. We can split it 75/25. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:57 PM
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From seeing how many adults I know/talked to that aren't being responsible. Talking about money management, general decisions, etc. Ah, okay. I thought you were referring to my friends and I specifically. Yes, I agree that many people fail at being an adult. By "what is an adult" I don't mean legally but more philosophical. What is your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:57 PM
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Cool. I prefer being a switch and having a switch, but am glad that you and your partners enjoy the dynamic you have! As for whether it's constant or not...so long as all of you are fine with it, does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:41 PM
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You get off on control. Incorrect. I do not enjoy being controlled, and I like being the one typically in control of the planning/buying/providing. To say I "get off on control" makes it sound like I'm controlling, which is a very different personality trait. I wonder how long you keep that up before you tire of keeping caged men around. "Caged men"? Lololol. 🤣😂 You do realize that my only relationship has been an 11 year long fwb one, specifically because I don't want to either have or be a bal…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:31 PM
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Depends. What do you mean "not OK with letting go completely"? If he just has strong opinions, like hating Japanese food or disliking horror movies and thus we'd never partake of those together... that's absolutely fine. It's part of that whole compromise/planning things both of us enjoy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:26 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:18 PM
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Nope. Never have. I have a long-term fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:18 PM
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If a scene was too much for her, I'd spot that. I'd use my perception of her mental state as a guideline on how far to go. I could generally separate bad crying from good crying. And that's a useful skill. I have a subby now who absolutely is allowed to say no, and we use safewords. But. She often gets into a mental state where she can't, and I need to use my judgement. Meaning stopping the scene. That's great. You sound like a very good dom. As for the her initiating sex question: she was alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:12 PM
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Really? I always thought that Beta Fux was literally referring to men who get to keep their betaness and attract the type of females who like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:55 PM
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Yes. They are soft and safe and comfortable looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:54 PM
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Neither of us would be happy. I prefer to do it, and he likes not having to worry about that shit outside of work. I enjoy being mostly in "control", he likes being able to relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:53 PM
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Am I? Or does it just seem like that because the internet is filled with men and women who don't know how to be content with what they have in life? You know there's a saying that I really like that says " gratitude turns what we already have into enough", and the major problem that I see in the pillosphere is that it's filled with people who either do not have gratitude for what they have in Life or they keep dating people who have no gratitude themselves. Whereas people like me who have amazin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:26 PM
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Good question. For me it's basically someone who has a backbone when it comes to their own likes and dislikes but at the same time is 100% fine with letting me take the wheel and make the majority of decisions regarding the relationship, secure in the knowledge that I will always have both of our best interests at heart and will even put them first if need be. So I guess you could also just call it a laid-back personality? But sometimes people confuse that with being a doormat or not caring one …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:21 PM
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I have explicitly non egalitarian relationships Interesting. What exactly do you mean by this? I don't want to make any assumptions about what your relationships are like. ...because, from my perspective, it's more about giving a fuck about what your partner wants. Not as a way of getting something. Not as a negotiation tactic. But simply because you want them to have what they want from life. Yes, exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:16 PM
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Lol. For some, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:11 PM
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Yup. Anecdotes, anecdotes everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:10 PM
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By contrasting it with a caricature image of a roided-up constantly enraged musclebound macho man, obviously. That's an extreme on the far, far end of the scale though. How many of us know professional wrestlers with anger management issues irl? Now come the fuck on you can't be serious. This is the other side of the misconception that fat people are strong. Who on earth says that? I swear on my life, I have seriously never heard anyone say that fat people are strong. I wasn't accusing you perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:58 AM
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Usually turns out to mean assertive and masculine in a traditional way as opposed to roid raging. Really not sure how "assertive and traditionally masculine" can be conflated with semi-submissive, but okay. I'll take your word for it. Usually turns out to mean muscular or round-faced. What mental reject thinks that chubby is a synonym for muscular? FFS, words mean things...🙄 Usually turns out to mean mild interest in mainstream pop culture trends. Okay, I can see this because nowadays every Tom,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:28 AM
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Like most jobs, it can be both. I like the fact I was able to stay in the gaming industry (I used to work at a comic shop/hobby store), but I wish I could sell videogames and boardgames again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:18 AM
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I am not so sure about that. Why's that? That said what exactly is an adult nowadays? An adult is legally a man or woman 18 and older, but there's plenty of people who suck at adulting in that age range. I'd say an adult is someone who takes full responsibility for their own life and decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:13 AM
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Lol. I don't know anything about "womb tingles" since I don't want children, but yes I find guys like that arousing. A good example of the body type I'm into would be to look at Chris Pratt before he lost weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:10 AM
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Not sure. My doctor says I have slightly more naturally occurring testosterone in my body than is normal for a female, but that's probably not enough to have affected my prenatal brain. I've read in a study about tomboys (not the same as gender dysphoria but it's a start) that when a pregnant woman undergoes a lot of stress, the fetus receives more testosterone than usual and this can result in the baby girl having more masculine interests until puberty kicks in. Since my mom was in a physically…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:03 AM
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Huh. So if you don't have safe words and you have blanket permission for sex, what happens when she needs you to stop or end a scene for some reason? What about when she tries to have sex with you and you don't want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 09:55 AM
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Ah. Well, I've never had a hookup/ONS and probably never will. Regardless, that's the kind of guy I'm sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 09:52 AM
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Nope. I'm an account manager at a distribution center. I sell new videogames and consoles to stores.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 09:49 AM
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Things that "needy" people do are the same things that are essential under other circumstances. Genuine interest, emotional support, material support, reassurance. Yet these traits aren't that of a needy or clingy person. Rather they are traits of a generous man or woman. The desire to take care of and pamper women I like feels like it's from cavemen times, but their response to it isn't, because they are aware you haven't actually ensured their survival with a chocolate bar. And what of one's d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:42 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:34 AM
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What made you want to go out with him? Doesn't sound like your type of guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:00 AM
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Except to the onlookers would be more accurate. It's not like we know how the dragged off guy felt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:46 AM
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My mom got me some of those prescription antiperspirants that you put on your armpits at night and it burns like the fire of Mount Doom, possibly with the intention of destroying your sweat glands. Whoa, sounds really uncomfortable. I'm sorry you had to put up with that just to stop sweating. I've read about these newish "salt antiperspirants" that supposedly do wonders, they might be worth a shot even if you don't have the issue as bad anymore. That's great! Way to go. Thanks! But I have to adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:45 AM
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A guy I know got drunk at a university party and the resident fat girl dragged his limp body to a bedroom while his friends watched and laughed. They made jokes long afterwards as if it was funny. I told his friend: "That's rape, why didn't anyone stop it?" His answer was: "Sex isn't as big a deal for guys as it is for girls, beside, he was way too drunk to get hard, so I don't think she was able to do anything." This story is disturbing on so many levels...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:40 AM
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Kind of like how some relationships, including my own, allow for consensual non-consent, in order to navigate complicated grey areas. This sounds weird and interesting. Can you give an example of what you mean by consensual non-consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:39 AM
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Track team sounds awesome! It was! I've always enjoyed running and walking, whether it's rushing through the forest that was behind my house or pounding the pavement of the track... it's just so freeing for some reason. I remember the first time a guy asked me to be his girlfriend, I was going through a period of excessive sweating (high school) so I couldn't imagine being close and under scrutiny Oh geez, I can sympathize with that. From 8th grade til 10th grade I had daily fights with severe d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:23 AM
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I wouldn't know, but I'm glad you enjoy your time with them. Fwiw, sex with my beta fwb has always been extremely satisfying as well. 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:12 AM
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Is this another case like general public theory and the scientific definition? Seems like it. Layman's terms vs actual definitions vs how they are misused/combined with other similar words in everyday dialogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 01:11 AM
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What about a BF (Beta Fux)? That's what I was referring to, not a BB guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:49 AM
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That's fine. I've played the Witcher games and know who you're referring to. No, I'm not attracted to guys like that. I prefer a man with a slightly more feminine side to counterbalance my masculine one. Someone who is funny, light-hearted, a delight to be around, has that somewhat childish way of looking at the world to counteract my stoicism and pragmatic outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:48 AM
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Basically the kind who plays video games, smokes weed, eats mac n cheese, wears sweat pants, and never joins a club or a sports team. Except for the smoking weed and never joining any clubs thing, that's my type as well. Wouldn't it be difficult to find fellow nerds who aren't in clubs, though? All of my friends and I were in at least 2 or 3 throughout the school year, whether it was debate club, anime club, science fairs, honor society projects, lgbt club, 4H, environment renewal groups, etc. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:41 AM
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What do you classify as masculinity? I'm not being snarky, I just want to have a foundation to work off of to answer your question correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:30 AM
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That's cool. All I did was use dictionary.com
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:29 AM
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Maybe? It's probably just PPD confirmation bias, since most people with awesome relationships aren't commenting on places like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:27 AM
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My point is that if you are in a relationship solely for the companionship and sex, and do not have anything to do with the income of said person, then the bucks do not matter...his cock and personality do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:26 AM
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I was just going with the standard definition of confidently aggressive, which is not a trait I particularly want in a lover. If we are using your definition then sure. In that case, both my fwb and I could be accurately described as assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:32 PM
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I would like my fwb to see me as an 8, and he says I'm between a 7-8 which is good enough for me. He's a 7 in my eyes too, so we're pretty balanced in our steady attraction to one another. Because I already have him, I don't need anyone else to think of me as attractive or not, so I guess that'd be option #1?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:29 PM
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Definitely the trauma. I used to be a very cuddly child who loved getting hugs and picked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:26 PM
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Oh no, I'm 100% okay with any touching my fwb does, regardless of whether it is normal or sexual. But I'd trust him with my life, so...kinda different than the other 99.99999% of the population. I am fine with quick hugs, pats on the back, and handshakes from people I don't know, and longer periods of contact with my normal guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:19 PM
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I don't care about money, brah. I've got my own career and wallet, thank you. I may only be middle-class but I like selling videogames for a living so I'm not looking for a new job and it pays all my monthly bills anyway...I do not want or need anyone else's "bucks". Beta Fucks fwb for the win.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:16 PM
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I think it depends on whether you care about gender roles or not. I'm pleasant, friendly, nerdy, good with animals and children, volunteer at soup kitchens in the winter, and empathetic to a fault, but not feminine or girly. So if that upsets someone, I'd definitely lose attractiveness in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:13 PM
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I can get all of that without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:07 PM
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Why lean and cut? I don't want that...I like soft and cuddly, like a marshmallow. Why assertive? I don't want that... I enjoy being in an egalitarian relationship where we share decisions. Nerdiness is obviously fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:06 PM
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Thank you, Atlas. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:43 PM
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Lol. Dude, I'm pro-MGTOW/anti-marriage...Dafaq would I do with a husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:42 PM
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Yes, she was taking advantage of him. She sounds somewhat creepy, imo. If sex did happen, yes, I'd have considered it rape because there's no way he could have given consent. Gender and age doesn't matter worth shit. The Uber ride doesn't matter, except that the woman was a bitch for not making sure her potential sex partner got home okay. I'm glad your friend is alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:01 PM
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I'm supposedly not supposed to be sexually attracted to semi-submissive chubby Beta nerds...but I'll take them over an assertive muscled Alpha douchejock every single day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:57 PM
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Well, like I said I'm not a model or anything. I'm a size 6, 5'7", 36-27-38 when I measured myself last month. Lol. Is that specific enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:52 PM
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So something like your neural development resembles typical male development, but everything else is biologically female? Yes. Do you see the male/female divide as being more dichotomous or amorphous? Definitely a dichotomy. There's always been certain traits that are found more often in masculine brains vs feminine brains and vice versa. Not everything, and there certainly can be some overlap, but in general males and females don't think exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:24 PM
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According to male friends, a lesbian who shops at our warehouse, and my fwb... I'm a high 7-low 8. Seems about right to me as well. I'm not stunning, but I do take good care of my body, have clear skin, nice blue eyes, and a friendly smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:22 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:10 PM
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"Neediness" is inappropriateness, mostly born from misunderstanding, nothing more. Most people are simply not desperate enough to need, or not hot enough to be "needed". I'm sorry but I don't quite understand this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:54 PM
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Is a man fucking a transwoman, or a woman fucking a transman, a homosexual act? In an extremely technical sense, yes. You can't actually change your chromosomes (yet?). But if they've gone the whole way and look like these pictures above? I'm going to call that dude a man, and I'm going to call that chick a woman. And if I had sex with the transman I'd say it's basically straight sex and lesbian sex if I had sex with the transwomen. But then again, I like people to consider my gender before my s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:53 PM
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Generally, yes. For example, I'm masculine brained but I'm a female otherwise. It'd be the reverse for a female brained man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:39 PM
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Because the financial difference between a lower middle-class person like me and a wealthy person would make me extremely uncomfortable in the relationship. I enjoy being the provider, treating my lover to dinners out, getting them gifts, saving up together to go places, etc. On the rare occasion that my fwb gets me a gift, he's in roughly the same financial area as me, so I know it's meaningful. Idk...I just don't see a way for me to "provide" for someone who could literally just write a check …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:11 PM
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Probably differs according to personal preference. Honestly, if given the two extremes of dating a millionaire vs an unemployed guy, I'd pick the unemployed guy, especially if he is actively looking for a job or is deliberately taking a break to do something personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:24 PM
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Meh. I have a job and make my own money. A man's attractiveness isn't affected by what he has financially so long as he actually has a good work ethic and isn't the type to expect handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:39 PM
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Good question. Maybe LMR is much less frequent in cases where she's going for Beta Fux. That's kinda my thought process. Beta men generally excel at things that I and people like me consider important for sex, like comfort, trust, patience, and seem to be much more open to the idea of having the female partner be in control of the interaction. Imo these traits are far more important than the ones typically had by Alphas. I should ask that on /r/askTRP. If you do, let me know. I'm very curious to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:47 PM
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I think the issue is that Unicorns don't really exist, just like how Chads don't really exist. They're idealistic notions that no human being could ever possibly live up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:12 AM
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It's nice to meet a fellow awesome person, then! 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:10 AM
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Everyone wants a person they're attracted to to "love" them, which means having this deep "need" for them, doesn't it? No. Most pets need their humans to take care of them, small children need adults or much older children to take care of them. I do not need my lover, and he does not need me. We love each other, cherish each other, want each other...but if he decided to not be fwb with me anymore today, I would not die without him. I do not "need" him for my life to continue, nor does he "need" …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:30 AM
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Thanks for these examples. I've never seen any before that actually address the possibility of female-on-male rape, or that feature homosexual couples. The only ones I've seen are the last one, or ones like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:09 AM
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Thanks for the link, it helped. The idea regarding LMR/ASD is that they want to test you to see if you're a serious alpha male rather than a pussy. My question for those who believe this is; What if a female wants a Beta guy instead of an Alpha for sex? And also they want to not feel too easy/slutty. I think this is a worldview that only women who see sex as something they "give" to the guy. Sex is a mutual activity not a gift from one person to the other. It can't be "too easy" to have sex if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:04 AM
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That's what I think, too. I enjoy being boring because if I wanted to do something exciting or risky, I would. But there's no appeal to those kinds of activities, so it's stuff like inviting my fwb over to order Chinese food, play videogames, have sex, and eat ice cream for me. Museums over clubs, hiking over partying, going to a vineyard instead of a bar, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:57 AM
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Nah. I've been told by numerous RP guys that I'm the opposite of what they would want in a SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:36 AM
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I'm actually kinda boring, if the life stories we see here are anything to measure by, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:34 AM
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Cool, I'll definitely look that up. I already use stoicism in my life to get through tough times, so you're likely correct. They are okay. Not great...it really wasn't a good place to grow up for any of us. Our family was like a dollhouse, beautifully manicured, perfect, and shining on the outside but full of fighting, manipulation, gaslighting, and emotional shit on the inside. Kind of like if you took all the "dread" and "traditionalism" that RP talks about and ratcheted it up to 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:18 PM
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Wow...thank you, LW. I really appreciate that. 😯
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 09:26 PM
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I definitely have compassion for for people who have been molested and I'm very sorry it's affected you so deeply for so long. Not your fault, dude. I appreciate your sympathy though. Do you feel that it has jaded you towards men who are interested in sex or a relationship? I know lots of women who are now in lesbian relationships with women because they cannot enjoy sex with men after being molested. Short answer is no, because NAMALT. I can't justify blaming all men for the actions of one. Hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:48 PM
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Yeah. Like I said...sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:09 PM
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What were the circumstances that lead to the unwanted sexual contact. My stepfather was a monster and apparently an opportunistic pedophilie. What did you learn from it. Lol. "Learn"? I guess I learned at an early age that you can't trust anyone, and that just because someone puts up a fancy front in public doesn't mean that's how they are behind closed doors. Also that sacrifice is important, because if I didn't do what he said he threatened to kill my pets and give these "attentions" to his yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:56 PM
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Oh, there are tons of dissenting opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:06 PM
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Maybe it is genetic but mom's second husband is also 16 years her junior. At a few points she was dating guys my age, including a male stripper known as "The Snake". Nice guy, but that was really weird. He definitely sounds... unique. In terms of nutrition, mom had a major health scare last year and the fall out is that she is on a keto diet and dropped 30 pounds. Geez. Is she doing better now? From my perspective, half of 50 is 25, plus 7 is 32 (my GF had a b-day in April) Is this an actual for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:06 PM
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I don't have any readily available, unfortunately. Some were from irl conversations, other comments have been from years of being on gender discussion blogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:54 PM
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The only way they have sex is if a predatory rapist invades their home. It happens, but it's rare. It's not considered invasion if the guy lives there...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:21 PM
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Explicitly say that women need to be protected at all costs, even from potential consequences of their own decisions? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:20 PM
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Entirely possible. I wouldn't doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:14 PM
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Eh... sometimes. I've seen feminists do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:13 PM
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In what way lol? You don't seem broken to me! Heh. I can hide parts of it well. Like I always wear long pants and sleeves because of my haphephobia, and I project a false air of extroversion at work to cover up my "sperginess". I also have dissociative identity disorder, but don't "talk" out loud so people normally don't know. Nothing bad, but still broken. Shrug But have you seen the stuff on TRP about LMR/ASD? Again, it's a standard thing women do apparently. There's a psychological idea about…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 03:12 PM
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Aw, you two are almost the same as me and my fwb! I'm turning 33 this winter and he's 48. 😊 Cool, your mom at least has options. What is it like where you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:21 PM
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Okay, that part is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:19 PM
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It's not always easy to do, just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:19 PM
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It's something I noticed too. Moving from a suburban public school to a rural one seemed to give me a growth spurt. By the time I was 14, I was 5'7", size 4, and had D breasts (I'm a size 6 now, however). I really think some of it must be diet though, because I eat very healthy and balanced as a longtime vegetarian and my younger sisters are all 6" shorter than me, size 0-2, A cups, and they eat like shit. McDonald's, Burger King, Dairy Queen, Buffalo Wild Wings, etc. Their skin is worse too, de…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 11:36 AM
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OTOH, they also give advice on how to break through LMR/ASD. It seems that is more on the PUA side of RPers, not the core demographic. Isn't it a way for her to test the man? Or to not feel too easy? Or both? No idea. I always want sex and I almost always initiate with my lover, and do so in a way there's no doubt as to what I want from him. I don't understand the concept of beating around the bush when you could be fucking or making love instead. Hopefully someone who has used LMR will say why …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 11:26 AM
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Ah. I was just guesstimating because while my area is heavily Hispanic and the majority of people I see are under 5'6", I and most of the white women living here are 5'7"-5'9". Hell, my best friend's daughter is 15 and she's 5'8", a full inch taller than me. Maybe we just grow taller in the rural/country, lol. Wow, 4'11"! And only 92 pounds! I'm not sure of the last time I saw someone with those dimensions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 11:11 AM
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I think it's unfortunately just that most rapes/assaults happen with relatives or family friends, because opportunistic predators make up more of the population than any of us want to know, and they have the advantage of living with/being in unquestioned close proximity to their victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:24 AM
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Our right to bear arms is essentially in place so that the common people can prevent a tyrannical government. Or at least that's what it is intended to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:21 AM
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Listen...if a woman or man displays any form of resistance or reluctance, you don't push any farther. Full stop. Worst case scenario, you missed out on sex because they couldn't make up their mind. Best case, you didn't fuck up their life or yours by raping them. Pretty simple math imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:16 AM
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Just curious, but is the height difference between a 5'7" or 5'8" American female and the average Chinese male even large enough for the woman to be considered an "Amazon"? Or just in relation to the average height of Chinese women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:12 AM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:08 AM
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Some do, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:07 AM
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Yes, unfortunately that is what some people are arguing. If a guy and girl are equally drunk when they have sex, it will be him who's held accountable if she says she was raped later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 10:06 AM
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It's really not that much of a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:45 AM
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Right. So we need to teach both young men and women to not become drunk, irresponsible morons when they go out in public...not that all women are delicate flowers and men are all potential rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:42 AM
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I'm really confused about why you keep bringing up chaperones when nobody suggested this...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:40 AM
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The women would only have to live there all their lives if they chose to, Clarity: some women might want to go to an all-female school, then work in a male-dominated engineering workplace. It's a refuge that's strictly voluntary. Then what exactly is the point? If the issue is that you think men are so dangerous, why invest so much effort into having male free spaces and then congregating with them anyway? So there's no threat of said woman getting raped at school but then it might happen at wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:38 AM
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No, why would they be? For star's sake, nobody needs to be followed or chaperoned or hidden away. Women just need to take full responsibility for all their actions and make decisions that will make it more difficult for them to be taken advantage of, either sexually or physically. It would not eliminate the problem of sexual assault or rape, but it would certainly alleviate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:31 AM
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Uh, no? I already said I agree with Atlas that it is stupid to claim that women need all these extra protections and laws when they also want to act irresponsibly. Chaperones aren't necessary at all. Creating so many separate spaces for only women or only men to essentially live apart in seems rather cold and dystopian.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:28 AM
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Well, here is a hand-grip study; there is a HUGE disparity. I'm not disagreeing with you that most men are stronger than most women. I was asking where it was in the study you previously linked to does it specifically say that a full 99.9% of women are weaker than men. Also: you had the element of surprise at your back and essentially bushwacked these fools when they weren't expecting it. Hell, with a rear-naked choke, a puny 100 pound dude might be able to beat 6'9 400 pound Hafthor Bjornsson -…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:24 AM
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Yeah, Atlas really hit it out of the park here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 02:02 AM
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I'm mostly determined and crazy as fuck; in both instances I was in full protection mode, once for a male friend who kept getting beaten on by this ignorant jackass of a bully and the other time was simply to show a different bully that slamming one of the school's special education kids against a locker wasn't a healthy course of action. I will mention that both times I basically sneak attacked their pitiful asses by jumping on their backs, kicking their legs out, swinging my dead weight, choke…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:59 AM
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Well, there's not nearly as much of a strength disparity between women as there is between a woman and a man, for one. You've got a good chance at defeating another woman in a physical confrontation, should it come to that Eh, that's a big generalization. The past me that was a 18 year old 5'7" size 4 would never have been able to take down the 35 year old 6' size 16 woman in my example above. It simply couldn't happen... while 99.99% of women are toast against a man, and the outlier is a MMA ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:32 AM
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Women need all-female safe spaces, free from the intrusion of predatory men. What about freedom from predatory women? It hasn't happened as often, but there's been different occasions of myself and other females being sexually harassed and assaulted by lesbians. Hell, when I was 18 and working at a CVS Pharmacy, our photo technician was a large, butch lesbian who used to come up behind me and just full on grope my tits. The second time she did it, I told her that wasn't acceptable behavior and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:11 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:02 AM
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In the book, he was emotionally manipulative to an extreme, followed Anastasia everywhere, stopped her from being alone with her family, kept forcing electronic "gifts" on her that allowed him to control her (car, cell phone) and yes, at the very end of the book he hit her until she cried and simply let her run away. That's just what he did to the main character too... towards the middle of the book, Anastasia "meets" one of Christian's previous lovers who is literally waiting for her with a gun…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 12:01 AM
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Unfortunately and obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:38 PM
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True, but it is more than just the sexual part. Seriously, there is nothing inherently attractive about the character of Christian Grey, and there's way too many things that are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:12 PM
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Except that he was a monster (in the book at least, I never saw the movie version). Albeit one with a fucked up past, but still monstrous nonetheless. If he was this "fantasy" of being in-between the two extremes, he'd have had a rough past but would have risen above it instead of abusing his lovers and stalking his newest one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:06 PM
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Hmm. Probably with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:03 PM
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If this is true for the majority of women, I guess it just goes to show how unfeminine my brain really is. 🙄 Edited to add: Also, most women do not have rape fantasies. They have ravishment fantasies, which is an important distinction. And not even every female has those. I can honestly say I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:02 PM
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Jesus tap-dancing Christ...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:49 PM
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Except that the main "protagonist" male is abusive, a stalker, emotionally manipulative, cruel, creepy as fuck, and uses his wealth to excuse actions that are just weird at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:28 PM
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Ha! Definitely not. I'd never date or fuck a Chad. My fwb is pretty much the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:26 PM
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Lol. Well, you just described my guy so I guess that's why it doesn't make sense to me. 😉 But seriously... it is pretty much the "How to have a Super Creepy, Obsessive, Rich, Stalker Boyfriend who was Abused as a Child".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:41 PM
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Exactly. As I've said in other threads, I actually have MGTOW friends online and in the real world, as strange as that may sound to some. But guess what? Most of you aren't misogynistic assholes who hate everyone that just happens to be born with a vagina...only a very loud segment of you. So it's entirely possible for MGTOW to be friends with women, fuck them, and date them. But come onto Reddit and holy shit, is it different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:29 PM
1

Ugh... the popularity of that book series is one of the greatest mysteries of our age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:24 PM
3

Unfortunate but true. Especially here on Reddit...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:17 PM
1

Ah, see I personally do have a problem with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 06:26 PM
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As much as I'm absolutely willing to tell men that going their own way is the best option nowadays... MGTOW like this are living in a fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:19 PM
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Me too. Must be about penis width then. Quite possible. I love PIV and can do that all day long. I'm also one of those weirdos who love the head of the penis bumping against those bits near the cervix - puts me in heaven. I wish I could...gets too tiring to keep contracting and relaxing my muscles after the first time. And I'm the opposite... I'm glad my guy isn't so big that it hits so far up, lol. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:49 PM
1

RP says a girl having lot of guy friends is a red flag. I think the only females who would care what RP says are either RPW, or are trying to attract a RP man. Do women think a guy having many female friends is a red flag? Nope. Would you tell your boyfriend to stop talking to his female friends? Absolutely not. That's a very bitchy thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:47 PM
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I'd say that my ideal partner is my long-term fwb. We do share some traits, like favorite authors, most hobbies/interests, laid back personality, sense of humor, etc. But he's by no means my "copy", lol. There's plenty that is different between us. Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:19 PM
1

That, and also too muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 01:47 PM
1

Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:20 PM
1

Seems like the second option is put forward the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:20 PM
2

Lol, sorry. It's just that 2-5 word responses are really difficult to decipher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:19 PM
1

Ah, okay. I get what you mean and agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:18 PM
1

Are you saying that a man or woman could be a switch because their mother was the dominant parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:17 PM
1

I'm guessing you'd think the same of a female who has no female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:16 PM
1

Also: how the hell are our awkward gamer nerds interacting with women and being friends with them without creeping them out? It helps when the female is also awkward and everyone can acknowledge their own brands of awkwardness and just laugh it off together. If you share all/most of the same hobbies and interests it helps too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:10 PM
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No, because I also don't have any female friends. It'd be really hypocritical of me to judge someone negatively for a trait I also have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:07 PM
1

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:04 PM
2

True. It was still really bizarre to see grown adults somehow complaining simultaneously about women having sexual freedom and...women "misusing" their sexual freedom. It reminded me of that blog where a bunch of extremist incels and ultra-extreme "traditionalists" want the entire Western world to essentially become an entirely sucktacular version of London from the 1800s, where wealthy men could have a "pure" and sexually naive virgin bride at home for childbearing and then get their rocks off …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:02 PM
1

Can you expand on what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:51 PM
1

People can't just have different sexual kinks/tastes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:51 PM
2

No offense but I find them nauseating. Same for guys who keep going on and on about how women are made of sugar sprinkles and perfumed unicorn farts. No...just. No. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:46 PM
1

You think that men and women who enjoy being doms and subs equally are all autistic...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:43 PM
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That's what every man is expected to do, and does. Unless they either just don't go to college/vocational school, or they flunk out, or decide to quit after a year. I see more men of my generation doing that last one. 😞 The first two are almost NEVER options for men, and the second one is rarely an option for anyone (but equally likely for both men and women). True. There is no societal pressure for women to actually do this...but there is for men. True. And there's no disincentive for women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:38 PM
3

You did, and I appreciate your thank you. You're very welcome. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 12:05 PM
1

I know what it is, I've seen it before. It'd be strange for it to be due to my new phone, because I literally only bought it last night and haven't used it for anything other than 2 phone calls and to read this sub and r/ThedasLore. Just trying to protect my fellow commenters...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 12:04 PM
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I'm sorry sir, but there's too much logic in your comment. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:58 AM
2

Lol. It's funny cause it's true...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:56 AM
1

Unfortunately, yes. Third wave feminism and the resulting SJW/perpetual victimhood culture has brought us here. 😟
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:55 AM
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Yeah... that's not being independent, though. That's waiting around for someone to notice you're a damsel in distress. If you put yourself through college using student loans that you pay back yourself, that's independence. If you take out student loans for college, but then your fiance, husband, or parents pay them off for you... that's the exact opposite of being independent. You could always say "thanks but no thanks, this is my own responsibility".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:51 AM
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Same here. I enjoy talking with the rational men in the manosphere, there's a lot of good discussions to be had with guys who are fellow egalitarians and freethinkers. But then you have females who just throw comment after comment about how amazing and powerful and brilliant every man on the face of the planet is and it's just...ugh. 🤢 Blatant ass-kissing and pedestalization of an entire sex is disturbing no matter who is doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:44 AM
1

It's for the best, really. I can honestly say that my country is ridiculous when it comes to accurately defining our political parties. Also, I love your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:36 AM
2

This exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:32 AM
2

Red pandas are so adorable that it's nearly illegal levels of cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:31 AM
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What disorder do you think switches have, then? Or is it too weird to think of men and women who like to play on both sides of the dom/sub fence? 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:30 AM
1

Yup, us northerners are running rampant! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:25 AM
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Lol! Very true. And then they say that all females want that and don't believe it when they're told that is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:22 AM
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What people actually mean by that is getting laid, not a relationship. Then this should be clarified for the sake of the aforementioned idiots/bitches, because quite a few of them speak as though they mean relationships instead of sex. Not all, but enough to be worrisome. I admire you for that, but I also think it's naive to ever think that a woman ever has to be as independent as a man. I agree that at the end of the day, it is many times easier for a woman to find a man who'd be fine with bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:19 AM
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I don't think OP is serious about having a real debate or conversation, but I could give a few examples. The biggest three I've seen are against career-oriented women, women who enjoy casual sex, and women who don't want children. The MGTOW YouTube community has a number of guys who say women who've given up the traditional role of SAHM are foolish and just trying to copy men. (I can probably provide links if you really want.) Imo, this is the strangest type of shaming for MGTOW to do, since the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:00 AM
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...which actually brings us to your core problem: you honestly seem to think that all you have to do in a relationship is be physically attractive, and absolutely nothing else. To be fair, there's a bunch of people in the pillosphere who do say this constantly. Like when you see comments that say "all a woman has to do to be hot is not be fat" or "all a woman needs to do to keep a man around is not be a raging harpy". Personally, I find it bizarre that some would set the bar so low that a chihua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:23 AM
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Some of it is hypocrisy. Some of it is not done by the same people. If MGTOW #1 says something shaming against all women and then gets butthurt about a response that shames all men...yeah. That is pretty damb hypocritical of him. But what I see more often is that MGTOW #1 will shame women in a conversation with MGTOW #2 (who doesn't use AWALT arguments) and some passerby will assume both are using it, and respond with shaming towards all MGTOW. Which of course will then lead to what we typically…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:07 AM
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This link just tells my phone it has a virus now. Obviously one of those "don't close this window or your phone will have herpes forever!!1!1!" scams, but thought you should know it's a sucky link to put for people to click on...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 10:01 AM
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Why invest in someone who acts like that? You shouldn't. Plain and simple, if you're in a sexually involved relationship with someone who doesn't find you attractive or can even take a moment to decline sex in a nice way, there's no reason to stay in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:58 AM
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A better question would be how a relationship could even last without compromise on the part of both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:37 AM
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I kind of agree and kind of don't. Frankly, I'm pro-MGTOW already and would probably be considered a WGTOW by some precisely because I don't want marriage, kids, or cohabitation/sharing of finances with my lover and I prefer to focus on getting further in my career and being completely debt free one day. But there's a difference between the MGTOW and WGTOW who do so because they are honestly happier doing what they want instead of what society tells us VS the men and women who "go their own way"…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:33 AM
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Ugh. I sympathize with you for dealing with that. I can't imagine what it'd be like to essentially tell my lover that I'm not interested in him sexually, even if it's somehow temporary. That's just uncalled for imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:12 AM
1

Ah...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:01 AM
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I think those with bigger jaws/bigger mouths might find it easier, esp. if his penis isn't too big. Lol. Ironically, I had to have my two furthest back molars pulled when I was a preteen because my jaw was just a bit too small to accommodate them and they were pushing my other teeth out of line. I think it probably has to do with the size of the penis and how much you can relax your throat. Like, if he was over 6 inches, I don't think I would enjoy it as much. I find it crazy tiring. Interesting…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 09:00 AM
1

It's like a program constantly running in the background...🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:45 AM
1

Do you have enough time for those children plus the ones you already have? And is your new wife fair and loving towards your other kids, or does she have blatant favoritism for her own? I come from a family with multiple divorces, and these were ongoing issues, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:43 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 09:03 PM
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But if the crux of your argument is that you wanted to be a family man/father...why go through the rigamorole of dating, marrying, pregnancy of your new wife, and having to provide for essentially TWO families now? Why not just get 50/50 custodial time with the children you already have and love?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 05:49 PM
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Ouch. I didn't realize that it was $775 per child. It may not be. Depends on what the court decides based on the income level of the noncustodial parent. For example, my father was only required to send my mom $145 a month as child support for me, because he was on permanent disability (for what is frankly a false back injury) and wasn't made to pay any alimony either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 05:44 PM
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Sorry, Lewis...I didn't mean it as a permanent mark against tradcons. It's just that with how often he and his friends would talk about the importance of conservative, Republican, and traditional values, they made it clear that this is what they stood for. Sure, once I was in public school I learned that they had more extreme views than the common definitions but it still seemed to fit (albeit not as well as they seemed to think). So if the type of relationship you're talking about entails the C…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 03:46 PM
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That's how I've most typically heard it described. That the FM's decisions are usually considered secondary to the C's, and that the C has veto power over all decisions the FM makes. Or at least the parts of the manosphere that talk about how much better society would be if all females were married and submissive...😝 For example, my mother and stepfather had a tradcon marriage and his decisions, wants, needs, always came first. He was also the sole breadwinner for the household from the time I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:35 PM
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suddenly he is famous, has status, everyone caters to him, Oh good. So someone who is totally unreachable and quite possibly used to being fawned over like a demigod...pass. whatever they say is funny/interesting, Doubtful. It's more likely that their fans are just laughing at what they say because of their status, not because they are actually funny. Obviously not true in all cases, but enough to assume this is what's happening. they are charming and got an extreme ego or confidence. Charming a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:09 PM
1

I'm a biological female with gender dysphoria. I wear clothing from the male section of stores, have a masculine haircut, and bind my breasts, but don't take hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:59 AM
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Women utterly fail to create a sexy woman. Instead of making a bombshell they made some wallflower without any curves. That is really weird. The male version of a hot woman is more attractive than the female version. I would have thought they'd be closer in looks since most women understand that a classic hourglass figure is one of the most attractive of body types to males. And now look at the man, people will tell you that there is an incredible difference like skinny nerd vs arnold schwarzene…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:46 AM
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You must have a strong jaw if you intend doing that every time he wants sex. It would be tedious and tiring and turn you off sex even more. Lol. From your comment I'm imagining some dude without a short refractory phase, who's going to request a bj every 15 min of every day... But seriously, giving an awesome bj isn't tiresome or tedious if you mix it up between your mouth and fingertips. It's actually a pretty fun way to be sexually dominant over your man, and can be done numerous times a day w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:27 AM
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It's not about being able to orgasm from giving a blowjob. See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6vvfz8/comment/dm5cpx0
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:14 AM
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Because it's really arousing, gives a strong sense of sexual power, allows me to easily be dominant and in control, satisfies my oral fixation, and it's just plain fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:12 AM
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Stars above, if my guy or I treated sex like that, we'd have gone back to being friends-only many years ago. I'd rather go without sex if it means he's that unenthusiastic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:07 AM
1

Most of that sounds offputting, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:00 AM
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I believe this because I've seen it, and because I've seen relationships not based on the Captain/First Mate dynamic, and they're almost always unhappy. What do these look like? Are you talking about unhappy egalitarian couples where they switch off who is in the lead on a daily basis/as the situation needs (I'd say this describes my relationship very well)? Or are you talking about unhappy reverse-tradcon relationships, where the female partner is always Captain and the male partner is always F…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 10:18 AM
1

I've never called anyone, man or woman, "creepy" to their face because that's incredibly rude. But I've been hit on at work by guys who looked like they were living Greek statues, and have mentally recoiled from their entitled, creepy behaviors and gotten away as soon as I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 10:02 PM
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I can see that being true if you actually want her to lick your neck...but if you don't want anyone to do it, it'll be gross and creepy no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 09:37 PM
1

Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 09:34 PM
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I agree 100%. It's weird to hear other females say that creepy actions somehow aren't creepy just because the guy is more attractive. Uh, no...Everyone can be creepy and off putting not just unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:07 PM
1

Huh. Interesting viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:54 PM
1

Well, of course. Who ever said either HL or LL was "broken"? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:19 PM
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I wouldn't have called a low libido defective any more than I'd have said a high libido is standard. Both just are what they are, right? It's only a potential issue if your SO is drastically different and someone's needs aren't being met. So you don't think they could be compared at all? Not even like one would a cat and dog, or an apple and orange?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:02 PM
1

If most females sex drives are reliant on their men, shouldn't that be considered passive and/or low, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 04:40 PM
1

You're right. When I first joined 2 years ago, I recall there being more...Ah, well. Hopefully they're doing okay and just lost interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:58 PM
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Lol. Sounds like it's quite possibly just Princesso and myself then... For future reference, I don't participate in surveys or polls where I'd be uncomfortable with my answers being shared. Maybe if there's a disclaimer like that next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:05 PM
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Good morning, friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:42 PM
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Hmmmm I believe my current so believes men should want sex all the time and initially I did but I'm 40 now and we've been together 12 years. We're in roughly the same age range, then. I'm 32 and my fwb is 47, we've been in this relationship for 11 years as of this month. I guess as she rarely turns down sex I don't feel the urgency to keep initiating like some men do. Ah...that can indeed become an issue. I've never turned down sex and am almost always the initiator, precisely for that reason. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 10:46 AM
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NOTE: categories for Trans man, Trans woman and other had very few participants, in order to protect their privacy those results won't be made public. Damn. And here I was looking forward to seeing where my fellow gender dysphoric commenters fell in the survey...In light of this, I'd ask that you make the consideration to include us in the results next survey. We also took the time to answer the poll, after all! Our answers should count too. Purple pillers, would you prefer one category or do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 09:03 AM
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What's your definition of a Chad, though? My fwb is the opposite of what most people here say Chads embody, but I still find him incredibly attractive. Chad-ness seems subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:50 AM
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Weird question. I simply don't think about it in my daily life, that's all. It may have been a slightly odd question, but your response is strange to me too. I believe you, but have no ability to know what it's like to simply not think about sex, much less for an entire day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:44 AM
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I wouldn't drop everything in doing for an offer of sex sometimes I'd rather watch a film or read a book. I'd definitely say this makes you low libido. I can't fully imagine what it'd be like if my fwb offered sex and I turned him down in favor of something that could be put off until afterwards. I've also noticed that women tend to take it very personally if you turn them down for sex almost as if you've insulted them The first time he declined sex, I was indeed upset...but that's because I tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:39 AM
2

Yes and yes, you got it right. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:21 AM
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Huh. I wasn't even thinking about that. My train of thought was headed towards the idea of mutual pleasure between partners, instead of one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 08:20 AM
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I've heard some asexuals that said they had a sex drive and a libido - but it didn't really point at anything, it just was: no crushes on hot celebrities, some masturbation while thinking about completely nonsexual topics like the weather, what they were going to have for dinner, sunsets... Oh, okay. This makes a lot of sense to me. I'm attracted to both sexes and enjoy watching porn during alone times, but can just as easily take care of things while reading a non-sexual novel or planning my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:36 AM
2

If you're okay with answering, why only oral sex? Would you mind if they wanted piv instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:23 AM
1

Ah. Yeah, I would say that was a big issue unto itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:20 AM
1

Maybe I'm confusing my terms... Can you be asexual and HL simultaneously? I thought they were mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:18 AM
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This is a good analogy. So people like yourself aren't usually hungry, whereas others of us are hungry all the time, and there's the middle people who get hungry a couple times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:16 AM
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I did not. If I had found rpw and realized how important that aspect of the relationship was for the man, I may have. But then again, I may not have wanted to hear it. Did he never try to tell you how important it was to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:14 AM
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if ''how often she puts out'' is a huge issue for a guy id suggest that he isnt in a place where he should be looking for serious relationships in the first place. ...really? I know I'm a bit ignorant for my age when it comes to dating around, but I'd have thought that having a general idea of how often a man or woman can expect to get laid would be an issue worth finding an answer to early on. And everyone has seen the hot mess that can happen when two very high libido people clash What usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:10 AM
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I'm pretty keen to agree with you there, except I'd say that they are even less of the population. One in 50,000+, more like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:01 AM
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Yeah, I can totally understand where you are coming from. I currently have 3 parakeets and 2 cockatiels, all of whom are rescues. (As well as 2 free-roaming rescue guinea pigs.) Some used to pull out their feathers from boredom, one used to be terrified of humans, and one I had to teach how to fly because she had literally never been out of her cage in all 5 years of her life. That's why they live in a cage that is 5' x 3' x 3' with lots of interactive toys when I'm at work and have free reign o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:57 AM
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True again. I am not a bad kind of crazy, but I do have a lot of trauma in my past which is directly responsible for my dissociative identity issues and haphephobia. Sadly, it's almost guaranteed that if you meet a low N nympho, we are very likely to have...unique mental states that require some degree of patience and understanding from our partners. Not all of course, but a good portion of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:47 AM
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Truth. I am crazy, after all... 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 01:07 AM
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I'm a Purple Piller, and I watch everything from sweet lovemaking to rough bdsm sex. Male and female doms, gay, straight, or lesbian lovers, vanilla or kinky as fuck...it's all arousing at the end of the day. It shouldn't matter what is "acceptable" to your pill color. Whatever gets you hot is absolutely fine so long as it's legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 12:26 AM
1

I agree with everything you wrote, but as a longtime bird owner I'm honestly curious about your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 12:22 AM
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Nope. That did happen to me for many years as a child, but never with my lone fwb. I wouldn't have ever stayed with someone who treated me like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 11:57 PM
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I believe women are happier in their relationships when they submit to a man they're sexually attracted to (woman = first mate; man = captain). I believe this because I've seen it, and because I've seen relationships not based on the Captain/First Mate dynamic, and they're almost always unhappy. Okay, that's a fair response. I believe this because there is no such thing as an egalitarian relationship or marriage. In any relationship between any two people, there is always a dominant partner and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 09:44 PM
1

Question, if you want to answer obviously... Why do you talk about submission so much? It seems like a main talking point for you, but I'm unsure why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 08:18 PM
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Yup. It has for 11 years, can't see much of a reason we'd change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 08:04 PM
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Nah. I am 99% sure you're just a troll, sweetcheeks. Have fun playing around with someone else, I'm done feeding you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:42 PM
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None of that is "caring" about men. Helping men to alleviate their suffering and troubles created by our gynocentric society is not a way to show care? How so? You want to care about men? Find a good one, treat him like a king, marry him, have his babies, do whatever he wants you to do, submit to him, and never ever leave him no matter what. Okay, first of all, that would only be "caring" about one man out of billions. I'm interested in helping numerous men, not just one. Secondly, I'm anti-marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 07:40 PM
1

I don't believe you're 100% yourself with your SO. Maybe I suppose, but that's rare as fuck. That's ok. It's true regardless of your belief. I simply see no reason to hide any thoughts or opinions from him after all the time we've spent together. Based on the topics of some of our conversations, it seems he's in the same boat or at the very least extremely comfortable with me. I'm only ever myself when I'm alone. To then be defined by others based on how they interact with me makes it impossible…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:26 AM
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Lol! That's not "women's issues", brah. That's called a personal anecdote combined with calling out hypocrisy. And again, while it's rare this happens irl, it is the go-to response online for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 10:17 AM
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I don't understand why you feel that a single thread of conversation...on a reddit sub of all things...is valuable enough to outweigh decades of work, sacrifice, and financial help given to others. It's quite a unique view you have there, I must say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 01:18 AM
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How on earth would you know for sure if he's able to cheat or not? If I find him sexually attractive then of course someone else will too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 10:14 PM
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You clearly don't care a "metric shit ton" if in a discussion on the lack of caring for men's plight you turn around and make it all about you. You're allowed to feel whatever you want. They'll make it all about themselves, use it against you and then they'll go on and on about all the help and work they do for teh ungrateful mens. NAMALT. Just some. Systemic sexism is a one way street and for the past half century it's been men and boys exploited for women's benefit and my generation of men mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 07:26 PM
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I didn't talk about women's issues at all, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:22 PM
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I did nothing wrong. I posted a single comment discussing the strangeness of a situation where men do indeed need and deserve empathy from women but they reject it online when it occurs. If you do not like this fact, then I'd (seriously) very happily work with you or other like-minded people out in the real world and continue to benefit men while working to help both sexes see that doing so is not going to end in disdain and abject suspicion. If someone says they are hungry, and you offer them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:13 PM
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I'm simply pointing out the irony of guys saying they want kindness and empathy while simultaneously condemning those women who freely offer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 05:25 PM
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Isn't it though? It's almost like people get pissed off when they hear numerous daily complaints about how men get no empathy from women, so empathetic women deliberately and purposefully do things that benefit/assist men so that guys aren't hurt so bad, but then get spit on. No good deed goes unpunished, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 05:24 PM
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most of what you wrote is a sacrifice in one way or another. for example moving in to help pay bills, absolutely. It was weird living with another person after so many years of being solitary, but was still fun. We are best friends, after all. picking him up from airport can be, but if its a one - off, its a favor. Meh, once every few months. Maybe 4-5x a year. It's more a sacrifice of sleep and relaxation than anything else. Paying for dates consistently is as well. This is a constant weekly ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 05:20 PM
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France. Maybe there are just A LOT of obese young girls in the US...? I thought that obese people were already of an advanced age. There are a lot of young men and women here who have obesity/weight gain issues. Percent of adults age 20 years and over with obesity: 37.9% (2013-2014) Percent of adults age 20 years and over with overweight, including obesity: 70.7% (2013-2014)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:07 PM
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You've admitted your male brained, so what you've listed would be considered sacrificial by most men. Interesting distinction. So is the same action performed by a cis-female or trans-female inherently different when performed by a trans-male or cis-male, simply due to the thoughts behind the action?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 11:42 AM
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Depends. I'm mentally atypical because of various reasons already (DID + gender dysphoria) but I do act professional when at work and reserved when around my family. I'm very close to being myself when with my friends (though not 100% since they are far-left Liberals and I'm a moderate Libertarian) and 100% myself when I'm with my fwb/lover. Likewise, he's 100% himself when he's with me. It has to do with the amount of trust you have and amount of mental vulnerability you're willing to show.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 11:38 AM
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True. A lot of people from my generation had the financial support of their parents, and many were able to live at home during the summer to save on rent money for at least a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 11:32 AM
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Which is fine, people are allowed to think however they want. But if you say that you're miserable and angry because X keeps happening, but you meet a woman who is doing her best to eliminate or decrease X, maybe don't keep saying nobody female cares about X...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:15 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:10 AM
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Yeah, I obviously don't agree with that since it's simultaneously unnecessary and unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:09 AM
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Really? Wherever do you live? In my area of the US it is rare to see either women or men who look like porn stars...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:08 AM
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Fwiw, I will say I think you are above average in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:05 AM
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I'm somewhat interested in exactly what you consider a sacrifice now, so here's my attempt to explain it using my relationship; Sacrifices are when you consider your wellbeing against your man's wellbeing, and decide that his is more important to you. Here's a few examples of sacrifices I've made for my fwb. Drove to the airport two hours away at midnight to pick him up from a flight and drive him home, even though I had to be at work for a 9am-8pm shift the next day. Getting him his favorite bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 01:49 AM
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Not the original commenter, but no. When you love someone, it's as a person not their chromosomes. Personality far, far outweighs body/brain type or genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 01:21 AM
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I'd like to know her "reasoning" (loosest sense of the word, of course) as to why women play videogames then...
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 01:12 AM
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I did! I have a few PMs to respond to, but am in the airport right now so am looking at smaller comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 04:56 PM
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Nah. You don't get a cookie for being a nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:33 PM
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Which again is just weird. Like, I understand not wanting a partner who's had a lot of other dick/pussy before they met you, just due to the potential for disease. But I've seen guys who act as though a penis is something that can drastically alter the very personality and mindset of the person they are sexing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 03:31 PM
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I try. Most aren't interested in listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 01:22 AM
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Why doesn't anyone give a fuck about men?? why don't they care about the pain men go through? I do care. I care a metric shit-ton. I've donated to research for male birth control options, volunteered at soup kitchens feeding almost exclusively homeless men, have petitioned against circumcision, advised men to be MGTOW, and try to be kind to all men I meet. But then I'm told online that I'm a no good, evil, solipistic, hypergamous harpy regardless of however much I do for males...so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:40 PM
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This is something I can't understand about RP guys...I mean, they've called me "submissive" in my LTR simply simply because I'm nice to my fwb, I give him emotional support, I take his advice on various topics, and we always have enthusiastic sex whenever possible. But here's the thing; other than during some temporary sex scenes, I'm the more dominant partner and I embrace many more masculine roles than he does. Why on earth does TRP equate a pleasant personality with submissiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 07:11 PM
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I enjoy talking about gender dynamics, sexuality, types of attraction, and men's rights. This is a better place to do so than the echo chambers of MGTOW, TRP, and Feminist only subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:28 PM
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No, but I have a mild case of PGAD so I experience constant arousal. Since my body tells me I need sex 24/7/365 there's never been a situation where I haven't wanted to be with my guy...I guess you could say porn is a twice daily snack to tide me over until the 1 or 2 times a week we can get together and have a real "meal lol. However, I certainly have heard of guys who ask their girlfriends to not masturbate with sex toys because it apparently dulls them to non-toy sex. Likewise, I've heard of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 06:24 PM
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I'd think that women have more 'things' in a typical scene to be insecure about??? Not really. There's not much in porn that insecure women would be upset about that they wouldn't already be with regular movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:13 PM
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I'm 32 and have been watching porn since I was 13 and daily since I was about 23-24. It was pretty easy to tell that everyone involved was an actor/actress, and also had what most would say is a superior and sexy body type. I mean, nobody I'd ever seen or met irl looked like that other than celebrities, so there was never a time I thought to use their looks as a measuring stick of reality. The scenarios where obviously and blatantly scripted too...I have always considered porn to be erotic enter…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:43 AM
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I was merely briefly commenting on (what I assume to be) a minority of women who are not into video games but pretend to be in order to try to impress men. I'd say it's a significant minority. I've seen quite a few fake gamer girls in the community but it certainly is not the majority. It seems most women will honestly state they don't like/enjoy videogames or will complain about their partner playing them instead. But if their last message wasn't some typo or something, then I guess they're jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:30 AM
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Most women are sheltered from male nature. It is why most fathers are so protective of their daughters. Unless the male parent(s) are the ones she should've been protected from... 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:23 AM
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The point is: most girls do it to please their bf, not because it feels good to them (it doesn't). It can if you take your time and do it from the right angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:21 AM
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The point is: most girls do it to please their bf, not because it feels good to them (it doesn't). It can if you take your time and do it from the right angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 11:18 AM
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Um...being into videogames and accurately stating that it's something you really enjoy isn't a bad thing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 07:03 AM
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Because it seems like the majority of women don't recognize sex as a need... :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 10:46 PM
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I don't think it'd be fair to the housewife to not have as much sex though, unless that's what she'd want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 10:45 PM
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That isn't meant to be sexy, it's meant to be funny. Believe me, if it was a different material and obviously meant to be male lingerie...it'd be a 100% definite turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 10:44 PM
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I don't think it'd be very beneficial to the majority of women, and I don't think most would want it even if it were legal. The only possible plus side imo would be that a career-oriented woman would be able to have kids and a husband along with another, family-oriented woman to come home to. So the husband and CO woman could work while the FO woman is the homemaker. That way there's a hot meal, another partner, and kids waiting at home and with 2 incomes for the family without daycare fees, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 11:13 AM
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It's so frickin weird, to think of your own and other males genitals as being something the opposite sex needs to be careful of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:44 PM
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Sad as it is, I've seen this argument portrayed here...by men. It's strange to know that quite a few males think of their dicks as corrupting influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 10:52 AM
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I've seen the research that virgins have drastically lower divorce rates (5%) than women with more sexual partners (33% for women with 10+ partners). I'd still like to see a study (or preferably, numerous studies) on how a males premarital N affects divorce rates and infidelity rates. It's very difficult to say that female N matters when we have no way to see if male N matters too. Maybe we'll find that females with premarital N > 10 are more likely to divorce BUT males with premarital N > 10 ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 03:12 PM
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It seems we're talking past each other now unfortunately, so I don't think our conversation will be fruitful. It was nice chatting with you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 03:04 PM
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It was simply the way you said that male sexuality is disgusting in regards to their porn usage. I was saying that if you deem male sexuality to be X due to Y, then female sexuality is also X due to Y, since some females also engage in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 09:46 PM
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Isn't even a friendship a type of relationship? Or like when someone says "I have a good/bad relationship with my parents". There's different levels of meaning to this word, and it seems people forget that...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:25 PM
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I definitely think it's over 50% of women nowadays. But my point was that if you are condemning or dislike that people do X (in this case, watch porn) it's disingenuous to say that it's an aspect of male sexuality alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:23 PM
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I thought you were trying to point out that as we age our bodies need more care, and thus we should have spouses to supposedly help us in our older years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:21 PM
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It's not confident to invade someone else's space when they are giving you absolutely no indicators of interest (ex. just walking past you or standing in line for something). That's simply douchebaggery, regardless of whether a man or woman is doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:20 PM
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Can't disagree with you because I hold the same view. Excusing oneself or an entire sex/gender for doing immoral or just shitty things because "it's just how men/women are!" is ridiculous. It's essentially saying that we have no free will, no agency, and no personal code of ethics. Bullshit, I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:18 PM
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I don't judge asexuals or low-sexuals negatively, bit I also have no idea what it's like to not need some kind of daily sexual release. It's like a whole different world. I've never felt the desire to increase my n count like other people. High libido doesn't necessarily mean high N. You could just want to fuck your one sex partner's brains out everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 07:14 PM
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A few months of two dates a week would definitely make you an outlier's outlier. Oh, believe me...I know. 😔 You'd have to be very interesting. Or, you know, go there FWB route. Precisely. I knew my guy for 2 years as a normal friend before we kinda fell into what we have. Even then, it took a few months of essentially teaching me about kissing, touching, oral, etc before we did piv sex. But when looking specifically for potential sexual partners, getting sex out of the way relatively early helps…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 02:01 AM
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Attractive guys can do almost anything. Slap girls in clubs, cold approach, start talking to random people, hug random girls outside, wear whatever they want, have craziest haircuts, laugh at unattractive people, etc. Just because some dudebro can do this, doesn't mean he should or that there are no negative consequences for his actions. I've had stereotypically attractive males slap my ass in college, and in turn I slapped their face. There is no need to be disrespectful towards other people's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 01:13 AM
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I typically try to go on dates twice a week, when I do attempt to date new guys. Imo, knowing someone for less than a few months before having sex is weird. I couldn't engage in such a special and intimate activity with someone I've only known for a few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:48 AM
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I just don't want "male" or "female" sexbots to be sentient because they would be the same as having sex slaves. I mean, I likewise don't want non-sexual androids to be enslaved, but we weren't talking about those.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 12:44 AM
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You don't think we can keep working on AI advancements while not applying them to sexbots?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:46 PM
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That's fair. I essentially made this post to find out if having a high N is actually attractive to most women, because many RP men say that it is. It would appear that they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:46 PM
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It's not only men who watch porn, though. You're entitled to dislike pornos of course, I'm not saying you have to enjoy them. But you can't really say it's purely males who have "disgusting" sexual habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:21 PM
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I'm actually very in favor of sexbots, both male and female varieties so long as they aren't sentient. I'm also not against sexually active men, I simply prefer a partner who has an N closer to mine and who holds similar views regarding sex. Are you upset with the numerous male commenters here who have Ns of 3-5 and don't want a partner with one that's many times that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:17 PM
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Ah. Yeah, I can appreciate that. I've got a 13 hour workday Mon-Fri myself. Certainly makes having a social life difficult at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 07:15 PM
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You need to find a hot, quiet librarian type!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:58 PM
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It's both awesome and hilarious that you describe yourself as pleasant and available. Hey, the truth is the truth. 😄 Also, seven years is exactly how long I was settled into a not really looking phase. I'm not in that phase anymore. Not to say anything about your partner, just describing me. Though I still have a low count by your standards. I've been in a not-really-looking phase ever since we started our (admittedly different) relationship. So can totally appreciate that! Also, not really Chad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:57 PM
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It just seems like if you're relationship oriented but have a high N you may not be good at keeping relationships going, or maybe you make bad choices when it comes to finding people for LTRs instead of STRs. Not always of course, but that's what my automatic assumption would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:25 PM
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Yeah, I definitely would not be able to have a fuckbuddy. It would be really weird to only use someone for their dick and not care about them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:22 PM
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You should go take a gander at the post I put up today...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:21 PM
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He hasn't for about 7 years. He's definitely allowed to, but as another commenter pointed out on a different thread...dating is only easy for Chads. If you're not one and you have a pleasant, available sex partner already you're probably going to go over there instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:20 PM
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That is pretty spot on! I was honestly just curious to see if it was true that women prefer men with a high N.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:52 PM
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Probably not. He's only gone to a massage parlour twice in this entire time. I was his 13th partner, so if the trend continues he wouldn't reach over 20 for many years. And I suppose that's if you count handjobs as sex, which I do but he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 03:51 PM
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I would have assume this actually. Various feminists think women can't rape men because women lack power and rape apparently is all about power nothing more. Yeah, that's total bullshit. Its as if women reinforce gender roles or something as well, but we know that to be false. /s Oh, lots of men and women reinforce gender roles, no doubt about it! Doesn't make it right for everyone but it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:55 PM
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Yes, you're correct that outliers like yourself do exist. It's just rare in my experience and it wouldn't be smart for me to go around assuming the other 95% of high N males are like you. I suppose if we were already in a relationship where I loved you and you sprang a high number on me out of the blue, I'd probably be able to stay but I'd be very upset that this was kept from me before it got to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:53 PM
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My thoughts exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:06 PM
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The main raison is the couple women I would have happily spend my life with dumped me :) That's unfortunate. Another reason is the fact most women do not want to LTR every men. So while I know I need love and stable relationship to be fulfill. I am not monomaniac and can enjoy fling / ONS. So i prefer to enjoy a moment with a woman I like even if I know nothing would come after that than having nothing. Which is totally fine for you and other men/women like you. I simply don't generally find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:01 PM
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Lol. That's my opinion, but try telling that to my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:56 PM
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High number counts are deal breakers. Or me they are. That doesn't mean that they are or that they have to be deal breakers for every single person out there. There are both men and women here on PPD that say they don't care about their partners past sexual history at all. Its just a preference. I'm not saying that everybody have to think one way or the other it's entirely up to the individual and question. But its 100% okay to hook up casually with the same person over and over with no intent f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:34 PM
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If you are so relationship oriented than why is your N high? Also I have never had a boyfriend and the relationship that I have is specifically uncommitted because that's what works for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:20 AM
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If you're comfortable doing so, that's fine. I've gotten pics from other incels/loveshys before, and don't mind giving honest feedback if that's what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:26 AM
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So...you pushed her/threw her? Also, why did she do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:24 AM
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Except that if you're career is in law enforcement, you'll be subjected to a very different segment of the overall population than if you were, say, a middle school teacher or doctor. It's easy to say "most men are shit" if you're wading through the worst of society all day. Less easy to do when you see that the majority of men aren't criminals, just normal human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 10:10 AM
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(oh hey I'm a poet and I didn't know it) This was adorkable. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:56 AM
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What if a group of women and men attempted this without calling themselves MRAs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:51 AM
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Soooooo...a combination of Brave New World and The Giver?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:49 AM
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Why? I think both are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:45 AM
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I think it depends on the individuals in the relationship. For example, my lover and I are able to date anyone we want...we're neither committed nor exclusive. I've tried dating other men in order to form more casual relationships but so far have been unsuccessful in finding any guys who are okay with waiting more than 2-3 weeks for sex. So my lover is still the only guy I've had sex with, unfortunately. Whereas he doesn't even try dating anymore and just goes to a massage parlour for a happy en…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:43 AM
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My experience has been more otherwise, shockingly enough. In that I've met guys and women who both think this which is shocking given that I live in purple area. I was surprised that many of my ultra-liberal classmates back in college thought rape was a gendered issue too. One would have assumed the opposite. I do same as the women tho think this. As there's still the view from women thinking if you won't fuck them you clearly must be gay or the notion of that. Because men never get sick, depres…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:32 AM
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I do think that men should be able to hit women who hit first, but I think this would also turn into a even worse situation of he-said she-said. I mean, c'mon Squid...we already have women who beat themselves up just to claim their husbands/boyfriends/random guys they found on Facebook did it. Can you imagine the debacles if they hid a camera and actually got a video of their man hitting them? The courts would have a fucking field day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:28 AM
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That's fair. Wouldn't it still be worth it to reach out to the older crowd though, since more of them probably are in family situations where abuse could take place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:24 AM
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Is it really understandable to paint all of a group with the same brush? I honestly don't think so. In doing so, you deny a person's individuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:22 AM
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Ultimately I recognize that I'm the only one that is able to solve my inceldom, by becoming as attractive as possible. Attractive to a certain person, or just stereotypically attractive? I'm actually quite motivated to leave inceldom. I've already worked hard on my body for the past year, the next thing I need to do is to develop a niche where I can get some status (I've thought of getting more professional at kickboxing) That sounds like a great idea! and drug myself with xanax so that I can ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:20 AM
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I honestly don't know. Part of the reason is likely because there really isn't any leadership or motivated following. Everyone seems to be content to be keyboard warriors nowadays, continuously typing about issues without any desire to actually get up, meet other like-minded men and women irl, and work towards a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:47 AM
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We are barely at all recognizing men can even can be raped by women and that's more due to MRA's pushing this narrative online. Surprisingly, I've met more men than women who all-out deny that women can rape men. Do you think it's because they internalized the idea that men "always" want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:44 AM
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Interesting. Why specifically the Gen Y?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:41 AM
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I think people here are just incapable of understanding that some of us are just too ugly for anything to help. The weird thing is, every time I've seen incels post pics of themselves, I have never seen anyone be below a 5, and I've even seen guys I'd rate as a 7 or 8. These guys are usually not stereotypically attractive but still have aesthetically pleasing features. It's like when I was watching that Love-Shy documentary and one of the main 3 kept saying he needed to afford facial reconstruct…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:40 AM
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Saying DV is a gendered issue when it isn't gets you money, support, attention and a cause for people to fight for. There's tons of evidence showing it isn't though. Is it just that the average man or woman doesn't care to look these statistics up? All that will have to change when people actually internalise the truth and those women will have to share their privileges, which they don't want to do. Do you think that this has a chance of happening soon, like within the next 5 years? Or do you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:33 AM
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I'm not sure if any have. I believe there was one MRA who was very focused on this and had actually been helping other men, but he killed himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:29 AM
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Of course it's not a good thing, but it's pretty understandable when you think about it. No, it's not. Just because more crimes are committed by men doesn't mean you treat all men like criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:26 AM
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Why would a woman value a high N?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:23 AM
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That's why I put the "or" in there, since I have no idea about this part. I've never been to a courtroom or been personally involved in any divorces, separations, arrests, being a witness, etc. Closest I've come is talking to my law guardian when I was 14 and petitioning to not be forced to go on weekend visitations with my father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:24 AM
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I don't know enough lawyers to say anything regarding the norm, but I think it'd still probably be a good idea for a male DV shelter to avoid dealing with firms that normally handle divorces or have lawyers with reputations for being ball-busters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:12 AM
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I will honestly never understand how it can be the year 2017 and people still don't know this. It takes a special kind of willful ignorance...😒
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 02:03 AM
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Thank you. I've given this a lot of thought, and tried to get one started in my area alongside a friend years ago. Unfortunately it didn't receive any startup funding despite our best efforts, but it would have been nice if it had worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:59 AM
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Probably not the whole law firm, but I've definitely met some lawyers who were misandric. Or maybe they just acted that way because it appealed to certain female clients during divorce proceedings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:56 AM
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Do you think there's any realistic ways for noncels to help incels? For those of us who don't hate you, but instead empathize with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:54 AM
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One would think...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:53 AM
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I'm not done reading it yet, I just needed to come back quick and say holy shit this is a good post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:52 AM
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I'd fix the lack of DV shelters for men. Create shelters that are for men and their children, with adequate security protocols so their violent wives/girlfriends can't just show up and demand to get in their faces. Enlist sources like the Salvation Army, food pantries, clothing drops, etc to always have quick nonperishable snacks and ready-made meals available as well as spare clothing for those men who've left with little/nothing. Partner with male-friendly law firms and anti-Duluth model polic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 01:16 AM
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Yup. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...that's pretty good evidence it's a duck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:59 AM
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Why would they tell girls to avoid you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:58 AM
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I believe this is true for men and women alike. Was simply pointing out that TRP logic would say that they aren't good for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:27 AM
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Lol, I know I'm a bit spoiled. I'd prefer it everyday though...😅
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 12:25 AM
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I beg to differ. If there's a guy with a large N, it shows he thinks of sex as a casual encounter rather than anything significant. And if TRP is correct in their assertion that people with higher N are less able to form bonds with their SO, then it would be foolish for a marriage and loyalty minded woman to wed a Chad with a large N. Please note that I personally do not believe that a large N necessarily means those men and women will be more likely to cheat or divorce. I think there are more f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:46 PM
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If he's as much of a Chad as TRP talks about here, I doubt his N would be low enough to be a good catch for any sort of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:25 PM
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I love that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:23 PM
1

That's better than I thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 06:50 PM
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But doesn't that include the overwhelming majority of the world's population?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 06:49 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 06:41 PM
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Does anyone believe it's much possible or likely to get a Chad to fall in love with a woman or settle down for her without her offering sex quickly? I doubt that Chads equate sex with love, probably just a fleeting good time. I also don't think that offering sex would cause him to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 06:40 PM
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Ah, I see what you mean. I'm not sure you'll find a true distinction between RP, BP, and the random Purples. I didn't have a chance to read every single answer on mine, but it seems the majority opinion is that sex is not really a "need" amongst most of our fellows here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:49 PM
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New people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:38 PM
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I actually already did a post about this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6jpfca/q4all_is_sex_a_want_or_a_need/ My opinion is in the OP. I'm 32, Purple, female sex/male gender, and I consider sex and intimacy to be very nearly the same thing. My need for sex gets satisfied only about 1-2x a week, except when my lover's depression gets bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:31 PM
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That's...not what I said. Just because I cannot at this very moment remember the specific names of the companies doesn't mean they don't exist. Here: https://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/03/economist-explains-14
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:13 PM
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Sorry that I struck a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:11 PM
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Just the simple point that many people make, that when you are aged you'll feel different. True, but makeup cannot make your pelvic floor weaker or give you arthritis or make you shorter due to spinal compression or any of the other physical differences that come with aging. So I'm still unsure of what the point would be...No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:10 PM
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No specific names off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:55 PM
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How certain companies are legally required to hire a certain percentage of women each year, or have a gendered ratio of employees.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:32 PM
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I think it's just the fact that you have no facial expressions or tone of voice to go off of? Then again, I've always been mature for my age out of pure necessity, because I moved out of my parents house and had a full-time job, plans for tuition, and car/phone payment prior to even graduating high school. I've had to rely on myself physically and financially from a young age, so perhaps I just project an air of being used to it. And again, I know it's not in my flair anymore but I'll be 33 in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:03 PM
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Like I said above, I'm currently the youngest person in my friend group at 32, the oldest is in his late 50s. Other than myself, my fwb, and one other guy who is gay, every other dude already has a wife and (typically young) kids. I fully realize that there's things I can't rely on them for because of this simple fact, just as they know I work the longest hours out of all of us and therefore can't be relied on for some things, either. I honestly am not an idealist. I try to be as independent as …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:41 PM
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And people who do recreational drugs, drink excessively, and indulge in tobacco products are actively harming themselves. For some drugs, like marijauna, there are some benefits for certain disorders but let's face it...most potheads aren't using joints for such purposes. Why do you care so much that I'm against using drugs recreationally?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:35 PM
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I can't fully relate to something I can't possibly have experienced yet, no. However, I can use the information I've gotten from taking care of my grandparents, great-grandparents, and elderly neighbors to make good decisions regarding my health as it is now, with probable (albeit not guaranteed) resulting benefits in my golden years. Only fools do not plan for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:32 PM
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I'm not being flippant at all, and I don't actually believe that you can honestly say you're "friends" with someone you've never met irl or who is just barely an acquaintance. Social media "friends" aren't real friends if they can't/won't be there for you through both good and bad times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:40 PM
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I'm actually wondering this as well. What's up with this current need for female quotas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:36 PM
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I mean, I don't think I could be friends with anti-vaxxers either. There are certain mindsets that I can relate to or appreciate or empathize with, but others that I cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:19 PM
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What do you define as petty?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 10:14 AM
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If someone can't directly benefit me in any way they are what I would consider a bad person. Why on earth would you consider them a "bad person" just because they can't or don't directly benefit you? I could see being neutral, but bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 10:12 AM
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That's why I said "nothing against you personally". There was no shaming in your language but there's plenty from everyone from relatives to coworkers to completely random strangers. Of course, just because someone shames you doesn't mean you actually feel shame. I certainly don't. What exactly was your point about the old lady makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:53 AM
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its hard to get friends to pick you up at the airport I think you need better friends, Atlas. 😉 Seriously though, I've picked up friends from the train station or airport up to 2 hours away at 4 in the morning. I've had friends bring me food when I had a week long stomach flu. I've helped a friend change their bandages on a leg wound, watched their pets and house for over 2 weeks, lent them money when they were unemployed and couldn't quite afford that month's mortgage...No offense intended, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:51 AM
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A lot of nerds do bind together in terms of mutual aid once they hit a certain age but this is mostly after age 30 or so. This. ⬆⬆⬆ All my friends are nerds and geeks, and our ages range from as young as early 30s (me) to late 40s (my friend John). This bonding with a small but very close social circle of "chosen family" is often seen in the gaming community.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:38 AM
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I don't approve of unnecessary mind-altering substances. It's just something that truly skeeves me out, and I find it kinda gross. It's just a preference though. Why are most men judgemental towards fat chicks? Because they find it unattractive and unhealthy. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:31 AM
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A lot of terpers would say "you'll change your mind when you hit the wall(TM)!" I don't believe in "the wall", so none of my decisions are based on it. I may as well lock all my closets for fear of the boogeyman sneaking out of them, lol. The RPers who talk about this "Wall" are really only trying to scare women who actually need and seek out male validation of their outer beauty and SMV. I already have a sexual partner so I don't necessarily need anyone else to find me attractive so long as I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:25 AM
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Lol. Then why on earth is it called friends with benefits, if they aren't even actual friends? That's at best inaccurate and at worst idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:57 AM
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That too. It's not that her message was terrible, but the presentation of it was super cringey.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:55 AM
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I'm just thinking that some of the issue is the callousness you mention. True, some incels and love-shys embrace their victimhood like a security blanket, but others are serious about getting better but still can't for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:54 AM
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The worst thing is the people sitting behind their computers cheering on violence towards everyone who disagrees with their worldview. Those are the same people who are scared to allow others to have a voice Like what happened at Berkeley...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:51 AM
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Lol, truth. Some of his movies do fall a bit flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:50 AM
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I definitely agree! But wouldn't the people who care about you irl still want to know about your troubles?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:49 AM
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Can't change or challenge your view, because I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:52 PM
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As much as I obviously agree that marriage isn't for everyone and some people truly are happiest being unwed and childless...dear stars above. This woman had to be the worst spokesperson for it. She laughed at her own jokes, rambled without reaching definitive points, barely used any slides despite having a giant ass screen, and honestly made it sound like she was trying to convince herself as well as her audience that singlehood/childfree lifestyles are great. 😞 It was kinda sad to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:36 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 02:57 PM
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I'd ask you: is this how you foresee your life ending up? Full of mastery, autonomy, freedom, fun casual relationships, and personal fulfillment? A lack of loneliness, stress, and unnecessary responsibilities for other's lives? Yes, absolutely and without a doubt. Like the speaker, I knew from a young age (13) that marriage and parenthood just didn't sound appealing. When I was a child, I dreamed of being an archeologist, a race car driver, an artist, or an astronaut...I didn't care about baby d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 02:54 PM
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Oh, no, not at all. None of them even know the term incel and none of them read red pill stuff. Do you think that reading RP blogs would help them? And none of them is a stereotypical male neckbeard with hygiene issues. I didn't think they would be. Fwiw, even neck deep in the nerd/geek/gamer community like I am, there are so relatively few guys that fit this stereotype that I sometimes wonder where it even started. Like, yeah, there are a ton of guys with facial hair as well as a large percenta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:45 PM
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Do the incels you know irl call themselves that and subscribe to incel blogs/subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:16 PM
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That's true. Unfortunately it seems that the few times I've seen a former incel try to go back and talk to current incels, their experiences get brushed off. 😓
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:15 PM
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What I'm trying to relate is that over time, you will experience the situations I've described. When you're younger it all seems fine and it seems like people get and understand the whole FWB thing, but in one or four years Not to dismiss your comment (because it sounds like you may be relaying your own experiences and I appreciate that) but my FwB relationship is in its 10th year. It started when I was 22 and he was 37...I'm currently 32 and he just turned 48. Again, I'm fully aware by now that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 01:12 PM
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Sorry, I meant one that isn't limited to online discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:58 PM
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If she is seen as weaker, what damage can she do? Lots, considering that most domestically violent women tend to use weapons instead of just their fists. And it is seem as unacceptable in society for the strong to hurt the weak (hence we have justice). Without provocation, yes. But if some weaker asshole keeps getting in your face, they shouldn't be surprised if you eventually reciprocate. Women are not taught to respect a man's strength. Not sure how you'd respect a trait, honestly. I don't res…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:57 PM
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Well then that's no good. Helping =/= putting people to sleep. 😦
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:37 PM
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Well, yeah...being condescending or mocking towards someone is just going to piss them off or make them feel even worse. It's the exact opposite of helpful. I was talking about this with another commenter earlier in the week, who may or may not have been an incel himself...I'm honestly not sure. I was talking about the importance of listening to the actual issues of incels and being supportive of them. Other commenter said that is not helpful, so I asked what would be, and received no response. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:35 PM
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Isn't that just an extremely strong physical pain reliever?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:29 PM
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Because being actual friends means not having sex. Why...? That's literally what friends with benefits is. A friend who has the added benefit of being available for sex sometimes. Fwb are having sex and generally don't hang out in friend groups I guess me and mine truly are outliers, then. We don't have the exact same group of friends, but there are 4 guys we both know and enjoy gaming/going to the movies/having barbecues with almost every week. as one or the other gets feelings and pissed when …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:28 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:17 PM
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Do you think it would help some of them to have peer group therapy sessions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:17 PM
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Yes, mutually decided against it. Yes, neither of us feel any need for it. We do not cohabitate, but yes we actually are friends with the added benefit of sex. We play videogames, go out to eat, game on Friday nights with our mutual friends, go to comic shops, hobby conventions, cook meals, go to the movies...normal, non-sexy friendship stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 12:15 PM
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