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So you're basically saying women are exposed to more temptation than men, rather than being a self control issue? The problem is, you've come to this conclusion in the context of a woman's dating perspective, what represents an opportunity, and it's associated temptation. Women are approached and presented with an opportunity, whereas men do the approaching, opportunity created from the existence of someone you are attracted to. From dating app data, men find around 60% of women attractive, wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:25 AM
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I am curious why a lot of these takes are this way. IMO, they put men in a pretty bad light but that's a whole other conversation. I think it normalizes these ideas, because most responses seem to have accepted elements of, if not the whole post, even though research doesn't support any of the OP's claims. The OP claims research indicates opportunity as the leading cause with no references, because research actually points to relationship disconnect from feeling neglected, undesirable. If someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 03:38 AM
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That paper has been discredited by multiple institutions with differing faults in the methodology, sample formation and and it's size. This article sums up the criticism and why it points to intentional manipulation of the results. Their survey answers were a yes/no 1-5 scale with no represented twice, yet they didn't accept one of the no's because of hyperbole. Why would they think recruiting a number of former perpetrators to participate in a sample of only 86, and it would have no influence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:35 AM
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Yeah, I'm not really convinced on the chemical psychosis connection, but the court is and was just thinking how does that case present in govt stats. If there's a column for alcohol related incidents but not weed, the focus is on alcohol. And if women are far more likely to be charged with manslaughter where men get murder, there will be over representation of men as violent when only looking the murder rate.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/08/26 06:50 AM
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People are saying it's not a double standard because they're not both jokes. Suggesting they are, would work if instead of a report on the military introducing a new medical screening procedure, the story was a soldier that drugged his wife, tied her to their bed to torture and mutilate her. He then took a bat to her legs in case she gets free of the ties, hacks at her genitalia, removing considerable tissue he would go on to destroy in the garbage disposal. Passed out from the pain, EMS find he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:30 AM
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Is it about a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:34 AM
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I mean, I've never heard of weed killing anyone. In a way it's analogous to female violence. There's no data collected/tracked, no public awareness campaigns, relatively complicated to attribute as cause or contributing factor. Then when it is found to be responsible in a case, how does it show up in crime stats, thinking of the woman who stabbed her boyfriend 108 times, sentenced to 100 hours community service. They don't seem to initiate broader public debate/awareness though.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/08/26 02:53 AM
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That's why she was so susceptible to indoctrination by the Hårga, because it offered the community and empathy she was starved of. Dani isn't indoctrinated and is the only one who recognises the danger they're in after witnessing the Attestupa's casual violence, there were no hypothetical's or ceremonial element to the rituals, or rule breaking consequences. Dani knows the culture is based on collective experience, needing to play along, but when she can, will try and distance herself as far as …
/r/MensRights02/08/26 02:25 AM
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I think the level of social conditioning was a shock to those that worked on the film also, their responses in early interviews suggested audiences/critics had overlooked or missed the subtext. Ari Aster seems perplexed by this reviewers take on the films ending in this interview, appearing dejected, not bothering to try and answer. Another example was in a Q&A with Aster and the cast after an early screening; "when Reynor got the mic, he had a question for the crowd. “How many of you think Chri…
/r/MensRights01/08/26 09:30 PM
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It's like how a significant portion of the Midsommar audience focus on the relationship aspect over the white supremacist cult. Authoritarian, obsessed with eugenics, rituals, and casual violence, either doesn't register or is overlooked, some people even see them as benevolent. It takes place in a camp, where those seen of no value, that can't or won't meet the cults requirements, are drugged, humiliated and then burnt together, a Holocaust allegory exploring propaganda's impact on society.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/07/26 02:57 AM
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It’s not a “what if” scenario like OP is stating There's so many comments saying this and I can only think it's because they don't engage with the traditional news media. It was only a few months back that there was extensive global press coverage of the tea app hack, that leaked pretty much everything, posts, DM's pic attachments and users ID's for verification, and over the years individual AWDTSG groups have been leaked and reported as harmful, for instance this ex husbands murder, instances …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:59 PM
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What you described is not a male version of AWDTSG. (I had to google it because we don’t all know what it is). It's surprising how many people haven't heard of it as it was only a few months back that there was extensive press coverage of the tea app hack, that leaked pretty much everything, posts, DM's pic attachments and users ID's for verification. None of this is stuff endangers a man or has any relevance on his current relationship I would look into it further before defending it as harmles…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:33 PM
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So true, and it's hard to imagine another ideological movement with a similar history, be celebrated, held in such high regard, that most people accept the policies and social/cultural position as fact, and just asking questions is hateful and unacceptable. I remember the global campaign against the red pill documentary when it was released. The way it was portrayed as so dangerous it had to be banned to protect influential adolescents, it seems apparent that Govts, the press/journalists and aca…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 01:47 AM
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In the 80's M19 a feminist and anti-sexist female terrorist group bombed the Capitol The WOMAD child-abuse case) where a member of the forum uploaded photos and videos allegedly portraying her raping a young boy. WOMAD members showed support for the writer, leaving comments saying that they would pay to watch the videos of the sexual assault. Erin Pizzey fled the country due to harassment, death threats, bomb threats, and defamation campaigns. She faced immense stress, health issues, and a bomba…
/r/MensRights30/06/26 10:25 AM
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At least this is a good demonstration of my point though, well documented historical actions that harmed other groups in society are censored because the mention of those actions in response to a question on how an ideology disadvantages certain groups, is more damaging than acknowledging they took place with a significant impact on society. Shouldn't the OP be removed for race baiting, as answering the question involves addressing actions/ideology involving race. Essentially you're saying the O…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:06 PM
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What do you mean racially charged? Black people can't point to how an ideological movement has caused them harm? This should also apply to the OP then surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:24 PM

Depending on the country you're in, a disadvantage would be historical revisionism. In the UK most of the benefits you've listed, women have been experiencing for centuries or before the feminist movement, except for the vote, misrepresented as universal suffrage which would take another decade. The working class majority are forgotten, the right to vote for men gained on the same day as wealthy women in 1918, and could have included working class women, if advocates against suffrage for the the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:35 AM
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Ovarian cancer is the most fatal, and second most common, gynecological cancer. It's a matter of life and death. Right I'm asking you, with the caveat that there's no reason to suspect you secretly have ovaries. You are entirely sure that you don't have them. Do you fork over $300-$800 to have those non-existent ovaries checked for cancer? As you've used $, I'll assume you're in the a country with a for profit health care system with distinct, unrecognisable characteristics to most of the world.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:57 PM
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Are you reasonably certain that you don't have ovaries? If you are, would you pay $300-$800 to have your ovaries checked? You're consistent in the consequences not being part of the conversation. There's no potential harmful consequence, committed by their partner, or any person at all, to protect themselves from, not a single aspect relates to the OP. Let's say he's aware that his family, through hereditary genetic markers, are at a higher risk of ovarian cancer. His partner has him convinced h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:45 PM
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Would you pay $300-$800 to have your ovaries checked if you don't have any suspicion that you have any? How do they know they don't have ovaries? Was it through clinical diagnosis, or as there's no one else in the example, they might just believe it to be true. They don't believe it because their partner told them, trusting them fully. Is a completely separate discussion. John and Jane only fit the OP if John is insisting on a paternity test and Jane feels mistrusted as a result. Why do you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:06 PM
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Evacuating today prevents him from punching you tomorrow, hopefully. That's arguably protective. Having a go bag does not prevent him from punching you tomorrow. Having a go bag solely serves to make evacuating easier and safer. Having a vehicle would also serve to make evacuating easier and safer. We wouldn't say that having a car will protect you from him. That would be silly. Yeah, like saying having a bag will protect you from him would be silly. I don't think it would be silly to say you us…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:41 PM
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No. They get it to mitigate the damage if the worse case scenario were to happen. Just like a go bag, which serves to mitigate the immediate burden associated with evacuating one's home. Neither "protect" anyone, in the most direct sense. They don't prevent the bad thing. They just soften the ultimate outcome if it happens. A go bag like you're saying, is to evacuate at speed, protecting yourself from imminent danger. I didn't reference prevention, but as you mentioned it, evacuating the area to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:37 AM
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Which would be like the kid finding the Narcan. If they wanna move out over it, and they legally can, then that's their choice. Still an appropriate measure to take. The parents don't get the Narcan to protect them from severe harm enacted by their teen. The teen can feel offended but I wouldn't say it was inappropriate. The parents decision is to protect the teen, which they have a legal/parental responsibility to do so. The test isn't preventative. It's diagnostic. As a clinical screening meas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:03 PM

In the emergency preparedness scenario, they might feel offended that their parent doesn't believe they'll never make a bad choice. In the testing scenario, there's some level of suspicion inspiring the insistence on the test, which they might feel is inappropriate. The parents have decided it's worth offending their teen if it protects their child and by extension themselves from something they might do. A DNA test prevents an emergency resulting from something that has already happened. Patern…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:27 AM
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No. The teen would be the other adult who feels mistrusted. In what way mistrusted? They would feel guilt from breaking the trust the parents have in them to do the right thing. The fear they might feel is from being caught, not being hurt by someone. Party A (the parents) does X (obtains Narcan to keep in the house), for reason Y (emergency preparedness based on statistical likelihood) and Party B (the teen) could feel offense. Party A are legally responsible for party B, making a decision that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:55 AM
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Aren't part of the OP. The entire premise of the OP is that the two are equivalent bc someone feels like they aren't trusted. Any examples where someone doesn't feel like they aren't trusted lies outside of the OP and are a separate conversation. You referred to domestic violence and paternity fraud as the fear people were protecting themselves from, which I agree with. I think the numbers and data you used aren't representative of those fears. For both, the most severe examples are most frequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:32 AM
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And it's the segue into dropping the kid - which is what most affected men do. Not only did they just find out mom cheated, but now dad's bailed, so they're stuck with mom, trying to handle it alone along with the rejection. Is there any data to support this? Is this from family court data? Contested paternity in family court addresses missattributed paternity, including fraud but not exclusively. Studying testimonials, The Canadian Children's Right's Council said the most common outcome was chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:51 PM
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What we're discussing are paternity tests initiated by men who've been assigned paternity and suspect fraud. His suspicion is integral. The cause of the suspicion isn't necessarily the relationship they're in, it's the examples where there was no suspicion and the impact on all those involved. In the medical or DNA ancestry examples there was no suspicion so they wouldn't have got a test themselves. A woman doesn't suspect he's going to be violent but has the go bag, a man doesn't think she's be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:14 PM
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One is a rare occurrence (up to 4% of births involve fraudulent paternity discovery) and one is not (around 20% of relationships are physically abusive). Those figures aren't really a fair representation either though. 20% relates to IPV, not physical abuse you've attributed. "Around two in three partner abuse victims (65.7%) reported experiencing non-physical abuse (emotional, financial)." "Broken down by sex, this was similar for male and female victims (53.0% and 51.5%, respectively)." The mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:07 PM
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I'm in the UK and it's the same sentiment. Campaigns encouraging men to be more proactive are ineffective, talking heads and politicians look at every possibility other than formative healthcare experiences. For someone to be in unwell, or in pain and still be reluctant to seek help, suggests they don't associate healthcare as a positive or even neutral experience. I don't think it's malicious, more clumsy insensitivity, mixed with overfamiliarity they think is helpful.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 07:23 AM
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I remember the article title which was like "Plus size women not interested in obese men" and that showed the hypocrisy of body positivity movement. Do you remember what year it was published? Just thinking of the parallels with how the refuge movement was hijacked from Erin Pizzey and the men she always credited in helping setup the shelters, and essential in the movement, "This is why the refuge was always full of good, gentle, men. The intervention has to be a mentor, somebody you can up look…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/04/26 08:41 PM
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In most animals including humans, females tend to be the most likely ones to protect. Most animals lives are solitary. And no, it’s a selfishness on the males part. He’s making her choices about him Him who? the guy in the forest? How would either of them know each others choices if they're strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:22 AM
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Women are expected to provide protection and evolved to protect. I’d be more afraid of a mama bear than a lone male bear. Women also must provide to children and the elderly, sick, and even men. I'm not saying women don't protect and provide for their family. I cited research on the biological/chemical differences that occur in a situation of imminent threat to life or serious harm. I was referring to Dr. Andrzej Urbanik, M.D. Ph.D. research using MRI to objectively identify any gender differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:07 AM
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I think it demonstrated the validity of Alison Armstrong's decades of research, as women and men responded in the way her research has demonstrated and is understood on a biological/chemical level. When presented with a potentially harmful situation, instinctively women look for protection from their worst possible outcome, the bear indicates the importance of hormonal connection, generated in relationships, are to feeling safe. Men can represent the worst fear or the most secure feeling dependi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:35 PM
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And who is conducting this test? Hospitals? Because I’m sure they would charge out the ass for it. I just saw a hospital bill where they charged $70 for a pregnancy test. You can get a pregnancy test for $1.25 at dollar tree. Some states in the US and many Governments, including the UK, are increasingly debating the implementation of mandatory paternity tests, on the grounds of cost. "The estimated proportion of separated families without any child maintenance arrangement increased from 25% in 2…
/r/MensRights29/03/26 04:28 AM
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You would think this might register as a significant contributor in men avoiding healthcare. Literature lists a range of factors, from masculinity/stoicism and fear of diagnosis and when avoiding examinations/embarrassment is mentioned, there is no suggestion or link to previous experiences, the logical place to start.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 03:06 AM
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Kinda crazy to erase crimes like that I can't understand why Governments take this approach. A UK policy papers use of terminology, published a couple of years ago, similarly used terminology to influence readers, but would have influenced the data collection, while potentially revictimising boys and men. The Government's Tackling violence against women and girls strategy was widely covered as it came in response to high profile cases during lockdown. Not many people read the actual report that …
/r/EverydayMisandry27/01/26 04:11 AM
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Your classification point also applies to false allegations. In the documentary ‘I am not a rapist’, three cases of false allegations, with evidence of innocence in one case, strong enough for a judge to feel the need to apologise to the defendant, wouldn’t be classified as proven false, as they wouldn’t even be classified as false allegations, only classified as such if the complainant admits to it. Just because a case hasn’t been recorded as a proven false allegation, it doesn’t mean there’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:28 AM
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Did you ever stop to think that maybe it would start a larger conversation? Coming out the gate with wanting to outlaw an extremely common and widely normalized medical procedure makes the entire concept ridiculous to many, many people. The same thing is said by FGM supporters FGM supporters, "Just as the male foreskin covers the head of the penis, the female foreskin covers the clitoral glans. Both, they argue, lead to build-up of smegma and bacteria in the layers of skin between the hood and g…
/r/MensRights08/11/25 05:25 AM
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Obviously both are mutilation, but one is performed in much more dangerous ways and is prone to more long term health repercussions. How are you comparing procedures? It looks like you're comparing outliers in terms of the global rates, the safest male procedure with the riskiest, most invasive female procedure, which comes across as disingenuous. If you compared procedures within the same culture, the discussion would be very different. To compare them male circumcision would have to include mo…
/r/MensRights08/11/25 05:23 AM
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If someone exposes themselves to you without your consent, therefore sexually assaulting you, and you post a video of them sexually assaulting you, is that you sexually assaulting them via revenge porn? What does the law say in that regard? The Take It Down Act is a federal law that makes it a crime to distribute/share sexually explicit/intimate depictions of someone without their consent, rather than the creation of the content, as the majority would have been created and sent to a partner will…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:40 AM
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What are you talking about? I was thinking the same but remembered what Bill Burr said "you're winning and they just start saying that crazy shit out of nowhere, just know in that moment you've won the fight, okay, alright, don't get mad, bob and weave, slip all of that shit, maybe "hey you guys, you got a little dick", just let that slide stay in the pocket of the argument okay, it's over, the argument is over, you've won, just take a knee and run out the clock"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:14 AM
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women today would rather earn their own money than be a mom to a grown man. That's the same thing the men you saw on insta saying, so are you asking why in the same circumstances women still want to get married but men don't? There are far more significant reasons for marriage reluctance. The two I've heard most being child custody and distribution of marital assets in divorce.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 11:49 PM
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I don’t think women’s preferences are not taken into account at all, just significantly less than men’s.As you yourself said 2/3 porn is consumed by men so it makes sense for porn companies to cater to them. You didn't address the point I was making, that it's too simplistic and inaccurate to portray porn consumption in that way, especially when there's so much data out there. If you take a look at popular porn videos, this is very obvious. How are you defining popular? How large is the data set…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 01:44 AM
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Think about porn. It’s primarily catered to male prefefences (since men are the main consumers) Women account for about a third of traffic viewing porn online, but studios and content creators that focus on specific genres/categories will have significantly varying demographics. Pornhubs latest data shows that proportionately, women are 63% more interested in the Rough Sex category, the hardcore category 75% more popular with women compared to men. Certain categories are definitely catered to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:13 PM
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A UK Govt. report referenced three independent reports, including the OECD that found girls are more likely to receive better marks from their teachers (in class tests), even when compared to boys who perform equally well in PISA (anonymous, surprise test). "Another study analysed the grades of almost 30,000 pupils from 300 Israeli schools, across multiple cohorts of high school seniors, and found a grading bias against males across nine subjects by comparing blind grades from external state exa…
/r/MensRights29/09/25 07:22 AM
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"Yes, it is the case that women did not really have fewer voting rights then men. Maybe there was a period in which some men could vote and women couldn't, but that doesn't really matter since the majority of both sexes got full suffrage at the same time." I hadn't really considered this, as the feminist movement, suffragettes, suffragists, are part of the national curriculum, so everyone will know the basic dates, and most will know key crucial campaigns/incidents. There was an assumption that …
/r/MensRights03/09/25 04:34 AM
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A little disingenuous to use this source to make it seem like men and women basically all got the right to vote at the same time. This needs expanding or clarification of how it relates to my point. It sounds like you're saying an unrelated point, you think I've made, is disingenuous? If you're saying people will interpret it in the way you've described, I disagree. The context is pretty clear and in raising the age and property limitation, you're reinforcing my point that the movement had more …
/r/MensRights28/08/25 11:54 AM
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In the UK, for centuries the monarch appointed politicians from hereditary peers/aristocracy with no votes/elections until Oliver Cromwell removed Charles I in the mid 17th century, establishing the republic Commonwealth of England and a period of political reform, leading to the Parliament of Great Britain in 1707. The aristocracy recognising this trend of ever increasing representation, took advantage of the system while parliament was still unelected and made sure they still controlled the la…
/r/MensRights23/08/25 09:31 PM
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Ok, but there are way more single moms than there are criminal men. Yeah and the numbers aren't even close, costing taxpayers around four times the whole prison budget, men, women, and for all crimes. A fair few have just accepted the OP's assertion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:18 AM

The idea that there was no punishment for violence against women is a misconception as the data on male perpetrators is incredibly misleading as the punishment is the same if the victim is male; The custom of the Skimmington Ride has its roots further back in history than the early modern period, Images of wives hitting husbands with items such ladles or distaffs can be found in medieval manuscripts and misericord carvings. Forms of the tradition occurred in other parts of Britain and Europe. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:08 AM

When I was at college in the mid 90's gender wasn't on the radar, it was class war, the "Estates of the Realm" structure still governs society economically and even though we no longer have different laws applied to different estates, parliament is still overwhelmingly represented by Peers and the upper class. Going back to times before the feminist movement had an established group (the WSPU formed in 1867), a couple of decades after the Reform Act 1832, which had opened up the right to vote to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 08:07 AM
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What do you think the difference is? A lot of men have never heard of them as they're only marketed to women. A quick poll where I work, out of 15 guys, only one other has even heard of AWDTSG. I only know a couple of your examples, were women excluded from accessing the groups/forum? How did they find out what was being posted? The different ways revenge porn is dealt with? Sporadic screenshots of posts in different AWDTSG groups, have had no impact on preventing the distribution of revenge por…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:25 AM
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We raised enough money and got a really good attorney for him that specializes in these types of cases. I really appreciate your support and advice. 🙏 That's amazing! It's worth offering support in a sort of unofficial research team capacity. I just remembered social media was another potential angle, did she post anything that conveys her state of mind, mood that contradicts the accusation, or places her somewhere else. I just want you to know not all women are like her. This isn’t a woman, she…
/r/MensRights18/07/25 08:35 PM
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Glad to be able to help. There's not much information or support out there, I learnt when helping one of my best mates, who was falsely accused of DV by his ex last year. A good bit of advice we got, was the importance of technology, especially if there's a specific date involved. Cell phone towers, GPS can put you in a rough location but you won't easily be able to request the data, but those that can will be more likely to if provided with a decent amount of supporting data, which is what we d…
/r/MensRights17/07/25 11:46 PM
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I use phrases like "herstory" This got me thinking, as dumb as the above statement is within the context of gender, "history" is a good example of privilege and power influencing language. The mix of Anglo-Saxon, Germanic with Latin, French vocabularies, and the reason either one became the dominant, stems from the Norman Conquest, Aristocracy and the class system. The French influence seen in areas like law, government, military, and the arts. Germanic Anglo prevalent in the lower classes and s…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/25 10:49 AM
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I don't think I've seen FASO (False Accusation Support Organization) mentioned in the comments. There's a helpline/contact form that's definitely worth using, if you haven't already. Here's a video of the FASO UK Director, Margaret Gardener, giving a talk at University College London (UCL) that might be useful.
/r/MensRights16/07/25 01:58 AM
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I think a significant factor is the influence/manipulation of culture/society via lobbyists, academics and the media. The feminists negative contributions have been etched out of the historical narrative while simultaneously removing men's positive contributions and pushing or even inventing negative ones. The Suffragettes association with the Ku Klux Klan, feminist activist Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate, was also a white supremacist and racist who…
/r/MensRights30/06/25 04:12 AM
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I can't get my head round why they think a fictional quote would be seen as some profound statement of truth and universal the way this one is. “When you wake up in the morning, Pooh," said Piglet at last, "what's the first thing you say to yourself?" "What's for breakfast?" said Pooh. "What do you say, Piglet?" "I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?" said Piglet. Pooh nodded thoughtfully. "It's the same thing," he said.” ― A.A. Milne
/r/EverydayMisandry16/06/25 04:57 AM
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Why do you think FGM victims are wrong in their analysis and you're right? If you held a different opinion that didn't conflict or relate to the FGM victims stance I could understand it. In what way are feminists contributing to their cause by holding not just an opposing stance, but one that FGM victims and activists, trying to end the practise, identify as a major factor in preventing legislative change. The existence of socially acceptable, legal male cutting procedures are used by Legal team…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:15 AM
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Studies indicate that men not only watch porn more than women, they do it 4 times more frequently. "Men are four times more likely than women to report having watched pornography in the past month" The four studies you've provided collect data from self report surveys of pretty small sample sizes. I linked the global digital data for the most visited site covering all of 2024. With no self reporting, a sample size of billions rather than a couple of thousand, tracking authentic behaviour/desires…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:05 AM
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That overlap is a really important component of the strategy to end FGM, Human rights activist Soraya Mire, herself a victim, advocates for boys too, as procedures are performed in the same unsanitary conditions, as a coming of age ritual on adolescents, (NSFW Benin, NSFW Kenya). There's also an overlap in those that support each practice, essentially making the same arguments of religious/cultural rights and medical benefits. Sierra Leonean-American anthropologist Fuambai Ahmadu: "Just as the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:24 AM
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Studies indicate that men not only watch porn more than women, they do it 4 times more frequently. "Men are four times more likely than women to report having watched pornography in the past month" The four studies you've provided collect data from self report surveys of pretty small sample sizes. I linked the global digital data for the most visited site covering all of 2024. With no self reporting, a sample size of billions rather than a couple of thousand, tracking authentic behaviour/desires…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:26 AM
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Yea.... not really the same context nor consequences, which is why anti-FGM feminist activists dont focus on male circumcision. How do anti FGM feminist activists form these opinions? They're so different from FGM victim activists like Soraya Mire, Ubah Abdullahi and Fuambai Ahmadu that do see them as comparable, using their platform to advocate for boys too. They recognise that male procedures vary significantly and can be invasive (NSFW Benin, NSFW Kenya), performed in the same unsanitary cond…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:15 AM

Uh huh, that’s why men complain about women’s obsessions with porn, how porn affects the way women have sex with them, how addicted women are to porn, and so many male pornstars monetizing everything to distract women from them. Why would men complain about women enjoying porn? Men can totally make money of OnlyFans, because women are so interested in seeing them naked, right ? The data's there for what women are into, the top searches explain how female pornstars are making so much, which makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:41 PM

Porn/sex work is the use of a body for one’s own pleasure, and is overwhelmingly used by men I don't know what country you're in but "overwhelmingly" doesn't apply to total porn use 60/40 men to women, some countries women exceed men in terms of usage. 1 2 Assault/rape/murder is disrespect against a body, and is overwhelmingly perpetuated by men I'm in a country where the legal definition means rape can only be perpetrated by someone with a penis, but SA's balance this with a much higher rate of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:10 PM

Women and men’s bodies are more respected by women What makes you think that? This compilation might seem like an extreme example, but the fact no one was fired and most of them doubled down, unable to apologise or comprehend their actions as harmful or dangerous, despite record numbers of complaints, it's a pretty good indication of cultural attitudes. I could be wrong but I've never seen or heard, multiple shows and networks, report a near fatal crime of DV, where a woman was tortured and muti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:42 PM

The University of Oxford published findings in 2014, covered in this article, with links to the original work. The most invasive form of FGM is comparatively rare: it occurs in a subset of the practising communities, and makes up about 10 per cent of cases worldwide. More prevalent, but much less frequently discussed in the media, is a range of less extensive alterations, sometimes performed under anaesthesia by medical professionals and with sterile surgical equipment. These include, among othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:37 PM
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They don't provide a cause but a recent study from Yale and Rutgers found that raising children protects against some of the effects of aging, for both mothers and fathers, suggesting the benefits come from the experience of parenting rather than biological changes from pregnancy. Statistically those in a LTR are the largest group raising children, the effect appearing to be cumulative, increasing the more children parents had. The effects were present regardless of the relationship status, find…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:26 AM
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The fundamental problem with this entire discussion is that it exists in this weird hypothetical vacuum... I agree, but I'll never understand why? Both women and men have some pretty strong opinions/theories, usually in some way or other, associated with sex or power, but never associated with the findings in decades of academic literature. This IFLScience article cites a few studies Most women aren't out here rejecting decent guys over fractional inch differences , and yes most of the research …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:38 AM
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I wonder what the downvotes were for? Porn not being responsible for the insecurity seems like a reasonable take, shared by the findings in academic literature. "Men's pre-occupation with size was rarely to do with pleasing sexual partners or even appearing as a better sexual partner" “We are not yet fully cognizant of the effect – if any – that easy accessibility to SEM [sexually explicit material] has on the body expectations and body ideals of consumers, the influence of SEM on state self-est…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:15 PM
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The majority of opinions in both threads reflect it though, hypotheticals rarely factor when faced with reality. I doubt most people would want to date someone that could be a rapist, violent, sex offender, or a false accuser, sociopath, capable of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:11 PM
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Isn't that the answer to your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:37 PM
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Your answer is giving “men who like small breasts are pedos”. This perfectly sums up the discussion here. I argue an opinion from the position of the findings in Academic literature. You ignore it, make an unsupported claim, in no way related to mine, that for some reason has a sexual element. Well at least you’ve admitted you had options beyond doing your research on dick size. The brief of a commission, whether coming from the private or public sector, isn't set by the research team? No not at…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:47 PM
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Same way the stats were presented by the ONS last year. "For both male and female victims, where a suspect had been charged, most suspects were male. This was the case in 88% (99) of female victims and 93% (292) of male victims" "There were 414 male victims in the last year, while the number of female victims decreased by 10% (from 173 to 156)." Female suspects are omitted from the report, failing to mention the 122 male victims they were responsible for, or that women killed considerably more m…
/r/MensRights08/05/25 09:05 PM
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Why do people think about a small dick is worthy of shame and ridicule. The same reason as small breasts, the false association/belief it represents the lack of development from infancy through to adult, girl to woman, boy to man. So are you or are you not including body dysmorphia related to weight in this study? It doesn't fall within the parameters of the research. Is that true 100% of the time? Sounds like you might have encountered some misinformation. Is what true? Are you saying that beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:05 AM
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I didn’t ask what it represented to people mocking it, I asked what it represents to you. You asked "What does it symbolise to the people mocking it?" For example lots of people think obesity is “worthy of shame and ridicule”. The reason is they associate it with lack of self control and gluttony. Obesity doesn't fall within the parameters of the research as it isn't an immutable trait, so there's no value in comparisons. Because I haven’t seen your research proposal. What informed your opinion …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:51 PM
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It wasn’t clear that you were literally researching dicks. I thought it was clear from my responses, but you're right I didn't explicitly say it. I said it’s “an indication”, I did not say it’s the only indication. People vary wildly. A lot of women don’t even like any kind of penetration. What does it symbolise to the people mocking it? You need to get past this attachment to sex. To the people mocking it, it represents a flaw deserving of shame and ridicule. I wonder how many men with small di…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:02 PM
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Not including dicks limits real world opportunities? It really doesn’t. You could find numerous examples of misinformation spreading which are more appropriate for an academic setting. In your previous comment I thought you were acknowledging that my work does involve dicks. As part of a study for the Health service in two specific areas, body dysmorphia and a decline in screening rates, what contributing role the media has in perpetuating myths and unnecessary anxiety. Your quotes appear to sug…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:26 PM
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Unless your expertise is dicks, something not related to dicks. That means quite limited real world situations/opportunities outside of the academic environment. Btw, can you remind me what was the main hit of misinformation that I am perpetuating here? You stated, "The insecurity for the vast majority of men is that it is an indication of how able they are to please a partner in the bedroom, this is inextricably linked to masculinity for the most part." Whether you're genuine or not, that's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:50 PM
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I meant you shouldn’t make assumptions about why other people are on here, what they do for a living and whether or not PPD helps support it/has research value. I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Nobody asked why you are on here. You volunteered some information and that clearly had a purpose to you. There was a reason you felt compelled to tell me. You presumed why I was here though, telling me, "You really need to get some perspective on this. You are approaching this as though men’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:17 PM
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This sounds like a long winded way of saying... Another re-interpretation accusing someone of making assumptions, through making assumptions on what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 11:15 AM
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I have zero interest in science related to dick size. It doesn’t affect me. Yet you've gone to the effort of creating opinions based on imagined scenarios, expecting other people to take your word for it. My perspective is due to my occupation in further education and the arts. Lecturing on media and communications, a significant amount of time is dedicated to misinformation and the differing roles of traditional media and social media in spreading it. Being in my mid forties most social media p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:21 PM
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I have assumed the root of the insecurity about dick size? The insecurity for the vast majority of men is that it is an indication of how able they are to please a partner in the bedroom, this is inextricably linked to masculinity for the most part. Yes, your opinion is an assumption and has no basis in the scientific literature, making most of your other points irrelevant, like associating it with attitude (energy) within someone's control. "Men's pre-occupation with size was rarely to do with …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:53 PM
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The problem is you're not responding to the points I've made, it's your own interpretation based on assumption. You've assumed the root of the insecurity, that I'm in some way comparing the groups and for some reason my sexuality. The relevance is that this is a false equivalence. Your comparison is not remotely proportionate. I didn't make a comparison, I used them as examples of the insult in a technical sense. You can argue until you are blue in the teeth about how terrible it is to use that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:15 PM
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Gay people face systematic oppression and overt discrimination. This used to be a daily occurrence for a lot of gay people (including older Millennials). Right, but what's the relevance? How does it relate to the technicality of the insult or identifying members within a group? No I have not studied data relating to penis size. Surprisingly. I don't think it would be that surprising, you've thought about it enough to formulate your own theory, rather than a quick search. If you would like to com…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:13 PM
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Genetics? They're probably related to the women making the same argument in discussions on paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:13 AM
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My point was that it's body shaming and now it looks like you agree, but it's ok because it's not protected and you see it as justified. That you relate it to sex just tells me how little you know on the subject, your opinion isn't based in data/research, or you probably wouldn't make statements like this; "You can go through life with nobody knowing apart from sexual partners. It doesn’t affect your... safety..." I'm not saying it's the same as having a disability or being gay, I'm saying the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:49 PM
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So why would Scope) change their name? Following your explanation if you used gay/spastic as an insult, ridiculing the targets "mindset/behaviour", listing negative traits, you're not ridiculing homosexuals or those with cerebral palsy and they shouldn't find the association insulting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:24 PM
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That is very different from ridiculing a person’s actual dick. You're ridiculing the actual dick of a section of society though. It's the same as using gay/spastic as insults. No one thought the target was homosexual or had cerebral palsy, but the latter had become so pervasive, the negative association lead to a significant enough drop in numbers seeking charity services, Scope) changed their name at great cost. People around me often used to use gay as an insult, saying they didn't mean it tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:37 AM
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You could spend months in jail while the police are investigating. A Pennsylvania woman said she falsely accused an innocent man she never met of trying to rape and kidnap her all because he looked 'creepy'. False sexual assault allegation leads to man’s death Stanford University employee charged with making 2 false sexual assault allegations Texas woman sued for alleged false gang-rape claim against cop stands by allegations and says she needed surgery after assault College student gets 1 year …
/r/MensRights01/05/25 09:17 AM
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Men’s right to modesty, dignity and privacy in health care. I've always thought this is overlooked in discussions around men being statistically more reluctant to seek medical care. When the patient is a man, standard Health care responses like, "I'm a professional, I've seen/done it a thousand times and checking out your "junk" isn't of interest to me" focus on how the women involved are affected.
/r/MensRights27/04/25 04:03 AM
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Wow I'm only learning now it's 81%, that's pretty insane how the data is always twisted It's such an important factor, it's hard to see how headlines based on stats rather than raw numbers wouldn't be considered nefarious in there misrepresentation. Govt. reports with headlines like, "The percentage of females murdered by an intimate partner was 5 times higher than for males", infers there are 5 times the number of female victims than male victims. The 34% and 6% (plus or minus 1.8%) is referrin…
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/25 06:14 AM
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They say that if you just disagree with them, so might as well be for being historically accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:16 PM
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You're probably right, their revisionist history is mainstream and widespread but missing significant details, like the Suffragettes association with the Ku Klux Klan in the US and the British Union of Fascists in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:21 AM
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I meant the Nazi's poisonous mushroom has fallen out of societies consciousness, so when people use the "bear" or M&M, they don't have the immediate connection to the Nazi's or fascism. I think my first comment is a bit messy. I was trying to say it's crazy and actually quite worrying that since enough time has passed, where the Nazi analogy is no longer ubiquitous, a significant number in society seem to be openly promoting and believe in fascist ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:53 PM
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It was widely acceptable for some guy to refer to men as poisoned M&Ms. I'm not sure i Know it, but this wiki might reference it? was it "Tumblr user The Frogman published a post denouncing the Men's Rights Movement in the context of the 2014 Isla Vista killings." Why did it suddenly become unacceptable for every other use of the analogy? My guess from how much usage it gets, is that it's fallen out of societies consciousness. Starting school in 1970's Europe, there was still a real connection t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:12 PM
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If 1 in 10 M&Msfeminists are poison and all that. It's crazy to me that people are still making this argument and then ask if people agree with it. When the Nazi's made the argument about the Jewish people, Trump about muslims, it was hateful and ignorant, and it still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:21 PM
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I can see where you're coming from, you haven't experienced any complications, either directly or indirectly or mourned a family member. For those that have, preventing babies/families from similar experiences, and any potential risk. The warnings are met with arguments you wouldn't really see if someone had lost a family member to recreational drug taking or a speeding motorist when raising the potential dangers; "I've taken loads of drugs and it's never hurt me", or "I speed all the time and n…
/r/MensRights19/04/25 08:56 AM
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Also, we need to factor in the other sources of paternity fraud discovery, a significant number discovered accidentally, the old fashioned way, through medical diagnosis/blood type; "Mr Mason never doubted he was the boys' biological dad until two years ago when he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis – an inherited disease which prevents male sufferers from fathering children naturally." "Teenager discovers her dad is NOT her father after testing her own blood during science lesson" As ancestry d…
/r/MensRights19/04/25 06:21 AM
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What were the reasons behind death in men , who killed them ,other men? From the CDC report, "97% of men who experienced rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner had only female perpetrators." which is not the same as sexual assault In a vast number of countries including the UK, rape cannot be committed by women under the law, it's like saying 100% of infanticide is committed by women. The different treatment of perpetrators in the legal system. In sentencing a judge stating …
/r/MensRights18/04/25 07:41 AM
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take a look at statistics "The CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey during 2016-2017 found that in the United States, 42.3% of men and 42.0% of women reported having experienced physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime." it's a deeply complicated subject with many nuances. I think it's important to look at the raw numbers as well as the stats. "The percentage of females murdered by an intimate partner was 5 times higher than for males" The 34% and 6% (plus…
/r/MensRights18/04/25 05:40 AM
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and you really can't compare FGM to circumcision FGM victims like human rights activist Soraya Mire, don't differentiate between female and male genital mutilation, using their platform to advocate for boys too. I wouldn't go around saying things like "if we mutilate baby boys, why aren't we doing the same to baby girls?" The argument is "if we can protect baby girls from mutilation, why aren't we doing the same for baby boys?" men opt to be circumcised though, I guarantee no woman is opting to …
/r/MensRights16/04/25 12:55 AM
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This is definitely a popular opinion, but I don't think it's as significant as most people think. There's now decades of research from academic institutions worldwide consistently finding the insecurity is rooted in not wanting to be shamed or seen as inherently flawed. “We are not yet fully cognizant of the effect – if any – that easy accessibility to SEM [sexually explicit material] has on the body expectations and body ideals of consumers, the influence of SEM on state self-esteem is perhaps …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:00 PM
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She doesn't even try and hide the bias in the handling of the homicides. When giving examples of the safety risks/dangers of interactions with random strangers, they are referred to as "tales of murder and revenge rape offences," alongside named photos of those involved in a tinder case. There's no example of AWDTSG posts intervening or having any positive effect at all. The example where AWDTSG is directly connected to a homicide, it is referred to as "serious violence" rather than murder, even…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/04/25 02:52 AM
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It's scary just how easily the victimhood historical narrative has been accepted and spread, especially when the internet provides so many examples of women publicly shaming men. The White Feather Campaign was a prominent enlistment shaming ritual in Britain during the First World War, in which women gave white feathers to non-enlisting men, symbolising cowardice and shaming them into signing up. "Although the campaign was unpopular among the public, often causing mental suffering and suicides a…
/r/EverydayMisandry12/04/25 06:37 PM
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Along with methodology, a reports terminology can mask male victims. Tackling violence against women and girls strategy: A note on terminology: The term ‘violence against women and girls’ refers to acts of violence or abuse that we know disproportionately affect women and girls. Crimes and behaviour covered by this term include rape and other sexual offences, domestic abuse, stalking, as well as many others, including offences committed online. While we use the term ‘violence against women and g…
/r/MensRights07/04/25 11:47 PM
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In the current times mandatory testing isn’t a thing a probably won’t be one for awhile. It might not be that far off, individual states in the US and many Governments, including the UK, are increasingly debating the implementation of mandatory paternity tests, on the grounds of cost. "The estimated proportion of separated families without any child maintenance arrangement increased from 25% in 2011-12 to 44% in 2019-20", costing the taxpayer £322 million to run CMS in 2020-21. [1] The cost of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:43 PM
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My thing is that I absolutely believe men should get paternity tests if they have doubts about their child and the mothers fidelity. They don't have doubts and paternity fraud isn't suspected in a significant number of cases, often discovered accidentally, through medical diagnosis; "Mr Mason never doubted he was the boys' biological dad until two years ago when he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis – an inherited disease which prevents male sufferers from fathering children naturally." BUT the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:21 PM
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I did feel that adolescence wasn't created to vilify young boys and men. You're probably right, but my concern is it's just the next Lord of the flies, real events and fiction referenced to "accurately" represent boys innate violence and destructive nature, while ignoring any other significant factors. In the real Lord of the flies, “the boys had set up a small commune with food garden, hollowed-out tree trunks to store rainwater, a gymnasium with curious weights, a badminton court, chicken pens…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 02:45 AM
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nothing wrong with feminism apart from the neo-feminism stuff imo, equity for all genders is important Feminism didn't even advocate for all women, black and working class women excluded, as well as men, the vast majority with no right to vote. Emmeline and Christabel Pankhurst dismissed working class women "as the weakest in society and the least educated, while realising that enlisting middle class women [to perform militant acts] got them more press coverage, made a bigger splash." Pioneering…
/r/MensRights31/03/25 12:08 PM
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There are also plenty of people who realize that women being banned from voting affected men too in some ways The vast majority of men gained the right to vote at the same time as women through the "1918 Representation of the People Act". For centuries in the UK the monarch appointed politicians from hereditary peers/aristocracy with no votes/elections; "British aristocratic women exerted political influence and power during the century beginning with the accession of George III. They expressed …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 05:08 AM
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Woman can have small dick energy. Woman can have big dick energy. It's a non-gender term. In the way gay/spastic were everyday insults, no one thought the target had to be homosexual or have cerebral palsy, the target of the insult is irrelevant. It's the group you're using against them that are harmed, the negative association lead to a significant enough drop in those with cerebral palsy seeking charity services, Scope) changed their name at great cost. Pop culture has turned the term into a n…
/r/MensRights23/03/25 12:33 PM
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I honestly think that the vast majority of men have no fatherly instinct the way women have motherly instinct. When you think about it, fatherhood is a social construct. (this doesn´t mean it´s not good or valuable) Motherhood is a natural instinct. Dr Anna Machin, an evolutionary anthropologist at the Department of Experimental Psychology at Oxford University, studying the genetics and neurobiology of love. "We used to say that being a mum was instinctive but dads had to learn how to parent. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 05:36 AM
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I think in general filmmakers have given people what they want, female nudity predominantly depicted in the context of beauty, sex, the focus of men's desire. Male nudity is rarely sexualised, used for comedy or humiliation like "Forgetting Sarah Marshall", "The Hole" and can be pretty explicit like in "A room with a view", focusing on women's enjoyment in seeing men belittled and humiliated. There's probably less incentive for men accepting nude scenes knowing they'll likely involve being the f…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 03:31 AM
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if a man suspects he’s the victim of paternity fraud then that’s between him and the mother The problem is the significant number of cases where there is no suspicion, discovered by chance, through medical diagnosis, a child in science class, or a fun family gift. Paternity fraud discoveries common enough for Ancestrycom and 23andme to employ specially trained customer-care representatives, for those with “more sensitive queries”. There are multiple victims, the child, the biological father and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:44 PM
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it would prevent situations where men find out years later, after they’ve already been parenting for years, and decide to cut ties with a child who has bonded with them. I totally agree, there's more than one victim and in a significant number of cases there is no suspicion, discovered by chance, through medical diagnosis, a child in science class, or a fun family gift. "Mr Mason never doubted he was the boys' biological dad until two years ago when he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis – an inh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:49 AM
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and it sure seems like you are saying #1 I don't really understand what this means? You said you agreed using SDE is body shaming but didn't agree with something I never said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:11 PM
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that most of the men who are getting offended even have a truly small dick There are women that find it offensive too. You don't have to be homosexual to recognise using gay as an insult or in a derogatory way is offensive and can be hurtful, or be overweight to be against fat shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:25 PM

those are societal concepts and have nothing to do with you, personally, or your own personal dick. In the way gay/spastic were everyday insults, no one thought the target was homosexual or had cerebral palsy, that it could be hurting anyone, but the latter had become so pervasive, the negative association lead to a significant enough drop in numbers seeking charity services, Scope) changed their name at great cost. I'm not questioning the way most people use SDE or their intent, the same way ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:23 AM
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Even the idea of a "male-dominated society" is a gender obscuration of what is really a class issue. Definitely and it shows just how little awareness there is of anything before the Women's Suffrage movement. For centuries in the UK the monarch appointed politicians from hereditary peers/aristocracy with no votes/elections until Oliver Cromwell removed Charles I in the mid 17th century. British aristocratic women exerted political influence and power during the century beginning with the access…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/25 04:09 AM
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I was brought up in the UK and grateful my family were against it, which 35 years ago was pretty unusual, friends here had it done when visiting family over there and a couple were quite affected by it, came back different. I don't really know how to explain it, but not as fun after. what happens if a young man says no to circumcision? It just happens anyway, none of my cousins wanted to go through it, but I guess it's seen in the same way as if a child had an accident and didn't want to go thro…
/r/MensRights07/03/25 04:38 AM
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Thanks for a positive reply lol. I'm half Filipino where the procedure is a rite of passage on adolescent boys and not for religious or medical reasons, but the risks/harms are minimised similarly, in relation to chance over severity which can destroy families. I think the parent's who have no real conviction either way and aren't aware that there are significant risks, would make different choices when presented with all the potential consequences.
/r/MensRights07/03/25 01:36 AM
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I don't know why this comment is being downvoted. It is gives correct information about female genital mutilation. I don't think it's because of the description of that FGM procedure, but the description of male cutting having medical benefits and no impact on function, ignoring risks like amputation and death [1][2][3] (UK) Boy aged 10 dies from infection 'caused by circumcision' during school holidays boys are kidnapped and cut against their parents wishes S/Africa Circumcision: 21 Boys Die Af…
/r/MensRights06/03/25 11:37 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never seen a man being gang raped by women. There's still many countries where the legal definition of rape is "when a person intentionally penetrates another's vagina, anus or mouth with a penis, without the other person's consent." This implies the action is more of a priority/harm than the consent aspect. A man being drugged, unconscious, made to penetrate wouldn't be considered gang rape, but then a surprising number of people have no idea of the biology of e…
/r/MensRights01/03/25 07:35 AM
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Yeah this one stuck with me for the level of violence inflicted through no fault/act of the boy and wouldn't have happened to a daughter.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/02/25 10:29 PM
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Or reminded them of his dad Mum ‘ripped off son’s penis and beheaded him because he reminded her of his dad’
/r/EverydayMisandry15/02/25 09:59 PM

That's interesting, I hadn't factored in the context of the objectification effecting how society perceives the harm. Society's tendency to sexualise women results in the depiction of a young girl being stripped, ridiculing her genitals implies sexualising children, whereas the same situation with a boy for comedy implies fun and a general good time, so harmless. Both depictions fail to acknowledge the target, so sexualisation rather than nudity is what regulators prevent so male nudity doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:12 PM

This business of media and culture shaming men and women for their bodies has plenty of pain to hand around. I agree, significant in contributing to body insecurities according to the studies. I was specifically referring to tropes that shame young boys compared to girls for comic purposes rather than women being sexualised. It's all harmful, but the conditioning for penis size begins in infancy, which is why it has little to do with sexual function.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:47 PM

I take your points, think I've learnt a bit more about how it's viewed, not important in a relationship context, but still matters, to a lesser extent with women than men in society, deserving of humiliation. If it's not culturally accepted, those recent viral shaming posts and press articles would have been condemned rather than spread by media outlets. what we really want is attentiveness This has no impact on children, but let's say you're partner is attentive, everything you want in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:18 AM

And half those links are about boys/ men caring about this more than girls/women. They were examples of how normalised and unbalanced (only negative connotations) depictions are in the media/society, of course boys/men care about it more, they're the ones affected and have either experienced or witnessed "assault, exposure, embarrassment, teasing, bullying" as a result of a body trait. I think media/press outlets are failing in safeguarding children in their formative years, trusted in represent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:48 AM

I'm completely certain that guys care about this way more than gals do. I'd guess it's because literature shows that "Men's pre-occupation with size was rarely to do with pleasing sexual partners or even appearing as a better sexual partner", instead rooted in avoiding public humiliation and not wanting to be shamed or seen as inherently flawed, with mainstream media a greater contributing factor to insecurity than sexual function or porn. Depicting a specific male body trait as exclusively nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:37 AM
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I remember when it happened but it looks like a lot of articles have been taken down, found this though comparing the punishment When Tyrell Morton put an inflatable girl in the girl’s bathroom at his high school, he ended up with a felony charge and a potential jail sentence of eight years. However, when three eighth-grade girls from Dunbar Middle school in Florida tackled an 11-year-old boy and stripped him naked (and proceeded to videotape him and taunt him), they were let go as a simple pran…
/r/MensRights09/02/25 11:15 AM
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I never understood why we had to make domestic abuse victims a gendered thing. I wonder where society would be if Erin Pizzey wasn't harassed and run out of the country just for saying women could be equally violent, identifying a familial cycle, where experiencing or witnessing violence as a child is the most significant contributing factor in perpetrators. What do they believe are the negative implications of helping victims, it's bizarre.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/02/25 10:15 PM
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always repeating over and over again the same points and feelings in their echo chambers The confidence in stating there's no male equivalent of femicide, as evidence misandry doesn't exist displays their own ignorance of androcide.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/02/25 08:56 PM
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It always surprises me that so many people wrongly associate wanting a bigger penis with sexual function and pleasuring a partner, rather than just seeing it as wanting to avoid harmful situations. Therefore, why the shaming and humiliation? I think society has a blindspot in how media depictions of nudity/genitalia are categorised as harmful in relation to sexualisation but completely harmless if used for comedy, regardless of context or age rating. Starting in early childhood, and a fairly com…
/r/MensRights27/01/25 04:36 PM
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who do you think perpetrates this more? I Think society has a blind spot with this issue rooted in how nudity, sexualisation and comedy in the media and press, influence and normalise what's considered acceptable or harmful. There's an assumption that depictions involving sexualisation are harmful, whereas comedy are harmless, rather than looking at the context in each scenario. This article references a few studies that find 2 in 3 are not satisfied with their size, and found mainstream media h…
/r/MensRights25/01/25 01:52 AM
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There was the WOMAD child abuse case On November 19, 2017, a member wrote a post on the WOMAD forum claiming that she had drugged and raped an Australian boy.<sup>[21]</sup><sup>[22]</sup> She uploaded photos and videos allegedly portraying her raping the boy.<sup>[19]</sup> WOMAD members showed support for the writer, leaving comments saying that they would pay to watch the videos of the sexual assault. WOMAD members actively defended her, claimed that Areum Lee was innocent and conducted an on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 04:05 AM

Can't get my head around this, it reads to me like three separate, unrelated scenarios. I'm unaware of the opinion that sex is a need for only one gender, or men value women who don't have sex? Sexual function is built in to every person like hardware, women with menstruation and hormone fluctuations, while men experience nocturnal emissions every couple of days, random erections daily, so that those functions and cycles, are regularly tested and in good working order. This has nothing to do wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:13 AM
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You've reiterated the points I made on the con's of mandatory testing and data control, then ignored the potential pro's, like fiscal savings to taxpayers eliminating compensation paid to paternity fraud victims and increased child maintenance from the biological father. None of that is my families problem. Taxes covered Federal spending on USDA's food and nutrition assistance programs totaling $166.4 billion in fiscal year 2023. 1 billion on DNA testing could potentially have a significant effe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:01 AM
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It seems like the majority of comments in this thread are focused on testing done in family court for Child Maintenance Services, irrelevant when paternity fraud is often discovered accidentally, the old fashioned way, through medical diagnosis. Suggestions like "don't have kids with someone you don't trust" and "discuss it early on" won't deal with the problem and suggest a lack understanding of the issue. If someone can lie to their children, partner, family convincingly for years, they probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:02 AM
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I'm on the fence about mandatory DNA testing I am too for the same concern around data storage but leaning more towards mandatory testing. Weighing up the cost of DNA testing against child maintenance, £322million to the tax payers (The estimated proportion of separated families without any child maintenance arrangement increased from 25% in 2011-12 to 44% in 2019-20). But then there's no guarantee that cost would be reduced if the biological father isn't able to financially provide. UK legislat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:23 AM

Is there a small, vocal group of “size queens”? Of course. Just like there is a small group of men who obsess about women with cartoonishly big breast implants. That’s not mainstream for either group though. It's mainstream to ridicule/shame small penises though, so wanting a large penis is more about avoiding humiliation and being seen as flawed, conditioning starting in early childhood. Media depictions of male nudity, especially small genitals, are used for comedy as a regular narrative devic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:27 AM
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It was a mix of men and women. More women for sure but there's always been a substantial group of men supporting it and helping pay for it. Was going to say similar, the two main donors were Neville Vincent and David Astor, also the chairman, along with many volunteers, "This is why the refuge was always full of good, gentle, men. The intervention has to be a mentor, somebody you can up look up to".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:56 AM
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The way Erin Pizzey was treated by feminists, eventually ran out of the country for advocating for mens rights as well as women's and suggesting women could be violent too was eye opening. Feminism was never really about equality, the movement openly excluded black and working class women, whilst promoting white supremacy; Pioneering feminist activist, Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate, was also a white supremacist and racist who openly advocated for …
/r/MensRights22/10/24 04:10 PM
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Yeah sure, I was using it to draw a parallel to their main topic of discussion, there's no law forcing males to endure genital cutting or government enforced pregnancy. They do expand the conversation, speaking on the right to bodily autonomy which the nonexistence of such a law impacts considerably. I find it hard to understand how a new born baby, having no choice in being strapped down, with no pain relief, to amputate a healthy part of the body and risking death is less of a bodily autonomy …
/r/MensRights22/10/24 02:35 PM
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There's a law to protect girls from genital cutting though. Exposed to the risk of chronic pain, partial/full amputations, or death (100's of babies in the US dying every year) for a non medically necessary procedure. It's hard to comprehend government and society's casual acceptance of significant harms and lack of willingness to protect the most vulnerable. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] There's no law that mandates forcefully impregnating women. In the cases where women are assaulted and for…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 08:45 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Trump not having the answers, but I was hoping Harris would avoid divisiveness and be the voice of reason and bring people together. From my perspective, forced pregnancy, registering for the draft and circumcision all infringe on a persons bodily autonomy, though in different ways. The Govt. isn't forcefully impregnating women, the majority of pregnancies a consequence of a consensual act. In the cases where women are assaulted and forcefully impregnate…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 03:41 AM
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''if a guy fucks up he's alone forever if a girl fucks up she gets her face cut off by a homicidal dude'' Drunk businesswoman, 39, who glassed a pub drinker after he wrongly guessed she was 43 is spared jail after female judge says 'one person's banter may be insulting to others' I'm not aware of those spaces.'' Of course you're not. I can't take him seriously, he has a very narrow frame of reference for a lot of his examples and this need to overstate or misrepresent the differences as a gender…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/24 01:19 AM
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a lot of serial killers are supposedly actually quite charming at first Definitely, Bundy springs to mind, his looks and charisma disarming victims and having a significant impact on the investigation. "initial eyewitnesses in this case, who had seen Ted Bundy with the victims, twice failed to recognize him as a possible suspect, “He is too charming to be him”, this was quoted as being said by one of the eyewitnesses. And these eyewitnesses were not one or two, there was a list of them and none …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/24 11:30 PM
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Normalizing paternity test isn't still worth it though If they can't find the actual father and collect maintenance payments, you're probably right, but emphasising u/DietTyrone's point, paternity fraud isn't suspected in a significant number of cases, often discovered accidentally, the old fashioned way, through medical diagnosis "Mr Mason never doubted he was the boys' biological dad until two years ago when he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis – an inherited disease which prevents male suffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:52 AM
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It's not so much the nudity, in the UK after 9pm anything goes, reality shows like Naked attraction and Embarrassing bodies have been running for years, centred around body positivity. In film and television Male bodies/genitals are used for comedy or humiliation as a regular narrative device, normalising male nudity as socially acceptable to ridicule/humiliate someone. I agree with u/sakura_drop that it doesn't seem to register with audiences outside of a sexual context, headlines like "Female …
/r/MensRights16/09/24 04:13 AM
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Demonising a group to justify any hate/violence as deserved, misandry not associated to female perpetrated violence. If always seen as justified, does it register as violence, or what is due, normalising men as the source of violence, either as perpetrator or inciting violence. This compilation of multiple shows and networks, is seen as an acceptable way to report and discuss a near fatal crime, where someone was tortured and mutilated for wanting a divorce to escape an abusive marriage. Attitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:23 PM
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That's your take though? My point was using a fascist argument indicates someones intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:07 PM
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A lot of people have heard this argument many times from nationalists in relation to immigration, used to demonise Syrian refugees in the 2016 Presidential campaign, rooted in Nazi ideology demonising the Jews.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:50 PM
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It didn't help the families in the links above, there was no lack of trust or suspicion and it still destroyed their families. These cases won't appear in studies using DNA testing or custody disputes, but represent a significant number, worth listening to health care workers who have access to and refer to medical records daily, knowing aware of any anomalies in family units, bound by patient confidentiality Two of the above examples, the victims are adult offspring, not knowing where they real…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:32 AM
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Anyone could go through it though, there's a lot of focus on testing, but people still find out the old way, accidentally, receiving a diagnosis or learning your blood-type. As more people research their ancestry, unexpected results are common enough for companies to have dedicated specialist teams for assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:59 PM
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Not about their children or anybody else who may be affected in some manner. The OP does reference others Whereas paternity fraud destroy multiple innocent lives. I think they need more attention in these discussions, having the most to lose, in a situation they had no fault in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:04 AM
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That's not my point, I'm talking about safeguarding children, they have a right to know who their father is and the opportunity to know them (excluding donors/exemptions). In each of those scenarios I linked, the man wasn't concerned about fraud or infidelity, the children have no option in being born into that situation, I'm asking what is in place to protect them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:41 AM
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I'm not following you? The children are always the hit the hardest. There's no discussion on cases discovered accidentally, commonly in medical scenarios, receiving a diagnosis, learning your blood-type, or researching ancestry. It's a common enough occurrence for ancestry companies to employ dedicated teams. "The company says that while almost every customer encounters surprises on their “self-discovery journey”, these are mostly “exciting and enriching”; for those with “more sensitive queries”…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:10 AM
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But we introduce systems to mitigate as much risk as possible. We can't protect all children from certain diseases but most people see the benefit in vaccinations. We queue up through airport security, knowing the risk of anything happening are tiny, for the benefit of everyone, not feeling accused of anything. If you've experienced it, seen the impact it can have even into extended families, you'd think a cheek swab at discharge or first weighing isn't too much to ask to stop it happening to ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:37 AM
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That won't protect all victims of paternity fraud though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:10 AM
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In the cases that have been discovered accidentally, the family living happily with no suspicions, how can society prevent their families being irreparably damaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:37 AM
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What about the cases with no suspicion, discovered accidentally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:17 AM
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I 100% agree with u/MonkeyTeals the focus should be on safeguarding children. They have a right to know who their father is and the opportunity to know them (excluding donors/exemptions). There's cases where it's just as devastating when the kid (or turned adult) found out the hard way, and completely destroyed the family and trust in their mother. I think this is the biggest harm in the whole situation, a traumatic, life changing event like this has a much bigger impact in the formative years, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:26 AM
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Men should pay child support for their kids Won't testing help address this? Currently 10-30% of fathers aren't supporting their kids, the system propped up by extorting victims of fraud?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:11 PM
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I’m now doing research on mra. For me, Erin Pizzey is an amazing role model, advocating for all victims, regardless of ideology. After being run out of the country and receiving death threats, she continued to advocate for all victims, making a difference on a global scale, not only involved in refuges across the west, Pizzey opened the first Arab refuge in Bahrain.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 10:02 AM
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So for black women to take up feminism is perhaps the most insulting thing that I've experienced in my time. I agree. It's not as if they hid their beliefs either; "Pioneering feminist activist, Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate, an advocate of women’s suffrage, equal pay, and many other feminist causes, was also a white supremacist and racist who openly advocated for the systematic lynching of African Americans. "Felton made her case for lynching mos…
/r/MensRights03/08/24 07:32 AM
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So none of those are my points, probably why you don't quote my words in connection. More people around the globe don't do it, so circumcision must be bad. The unnecessary deaths and life changing injuries from unnecessary procedures are why it's bad Soraya Mire has been speaking about this for 30 years, so circumcision must be bad. This has nothing to do with good or bad, it's that male and female procedures are treated the same by advocates FGM victims don't share my view, so male circumcision…
/r/MensRights01/08/24 01:29 PM
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You really seem to be struggling here, probably trolling as I think misunderstanding every point would be impossible unless you were trying. Ok...you're the one stating that FGM involves cutting penises I'm going to have to guess what you're referring to here. I referred to male genital cutting twice. The first time in reference to "circumcision" being an umbrella term for many different types of cultural practises. In these debates a lot of people use the US "medical" procedure, the safest male…
/r/MensRights30/07/24 05:07 PM
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unrelated to any argument I made. It's your argument I quoted at the top of the previous comment, this argument; It still doesn't cover the fact that I point out they are completely different things As you didn't specify the different cultural practises/types of FGM or "circumcision" you were proclaiming to be "completely different." I provided examples of more common, representative procedures for comparison. The US procedure, performed on infants, by medical professionals, in a clinical settin…
/r/MensRights30/07/24 05:01 AM
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I point out they are completely different things In these comparisons the US medical procedure performed on newborns, has somehow come to represent "circumcision" despite being a tiny proportion of global cases. The vast majority of global male genital cutting is a coming of age ritual practised on adolescents with no pain relief, (I'm half Filipino), NSFW Philippines, and done outside of a medical setting S/Africa Circumcision: 21 Boys Die After Biannual Ceremony, with a sharp stone, NSFW India…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 06:56 AM
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Circumcision = good benefits and zero negative. There's no global consensus on any medical benefits, the position of most Healthcare providers globally is that the risks too great for something not medically necessary. US healthcare data indicates 1 in 10 procedures end in complications severe enough they require revision surgery. In some cases inflicted with partial/full amputations, life changing consequences. Even in the US, in a clinical setting, 100's of babies die every year [1][2][3][4][5…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 06:56 AM
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There is no good argument for FGM at all. I think what u/rahsoft was saying is your argument is the same used by FGM supporters. Sierra Leonean-American anthropologist Fuambai Ahmadu: "Just as the male foreskin covers the head of the penis, the female foreskin covers the clitoral glans. Both, they argue, lead to build-up of smegma and bacteria in the layers of skin between the hood and glans. This accumulation is thought of as odorous, susceptible to infection and a nuisance to keep clean on a d…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:03 AM
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It is for non religious "medical" genital cutting; "It wasn’t until the mid-19th century, though, that circumcision gained popularity in the medical community. In Britain, it was seen as a means to promote chastity and deter masturbation, which at the time was seen as a pathological practice that led to all sorts of harm, including blindness and mental illness. The Victorian-era abhorrence of many forms of sexual activity even led to the creation of a disease: “spermatorrhoea.” A man could acqui…
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:09 PM
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A couple of angles to try, complications aren't that rare. US healthcare data indicates 1 in 10 procedures end in complications severe enough they require revision surgery. In some cases inflicted with partial/full amputations, life changing consequences. Even in the US, in a clinical setting, 100's of babies die every year [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10], though it's impossible to get exact numbers as the data was collected from billing information only. If a procedure was not covered by a thir…
/r/MensRights28/07/24 10:13 AM
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Then if a woman is convicted of raping a boy, according to forensic psychologist Stephen Woods, the perpetrator "had no sexual interest in children". Judge Hopkins highlighted the conclusion of forensic psychologist Stephen Woods that there was no evidence the 46-year-old woman had 'pedophilic tendencies'. She amended the record by clarifying she had relied on expert opinions that the influencer had a 'low risk of reoffending'.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 09:07 PM
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Although I still think this probably originates from women's preferences and men wanting to be desirable as sexual partners, so men who then have something that is strongly associated with lack of sexual desire, it became also a point of humiliation between men. Yeah definitely, it's just a shame that there doesn't really seem to be any alternative positive or neutral depictions for balance. Yeah, exactly. It's so pervasive it's become fully normalized. Do you think this is why so many people fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:36 AM
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Yeah I agree with this, just wanted to add what I think might be contributing factors/context. There's truth to that current society has kind of an obsession with big penises, and puts a lot of value in them. Both literally and metaphorically. I think it's mostly to do with how size is treated by society/media/press more than sexual function, completely acceptable to ridicule/shame small penises, which studies seem to support; Dr. Annabel Chan, found that "Men's pre-occupation with size was rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:11 AM
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It’s a movement started by women for women. Why do you think this? It was a movement founded by men and women for men and women, and a bit unfair to say men didn't care or contribute when men like Steve Post held a “fat-in” in New York City in 1967. Billed as a public protest of anti-fat discrimination, the action drew hundreds of protestors, inspiring Lew Louderback and Bill Fabrey to cofound NAAFA. [1] [2] [3] [4]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:21 AM

Fundamental need in the sense that is meant in this whole post thread? Probably not, everyone seemed to be using their own interpretation, I read five different takes, all different but all relating to intercourse or relationships, which I don't really think are related to the question, but I'm guessing from your comment is what the majority wanted to debate. I was saying; Sex is a fundamental need to the species, not the individual, so sexual function is built in to every person like hardware T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:24 PM

I'll give it a go. Lots of comments referring to sex with different definitions, some as the desire for sexual intercourse in a relationship, others the biological function. The body needs to maintain/test the blood vessels, sexual functions regularly, 1-2 times a day average, regardless of relationship status or sexual orientation and has nothing to do with urges/arousal. I had a great teacher for sex ed. She explained it using the workings of a fridge, at random intervals the compressor kicks …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:28 AM
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I've been trying to figure this out, so many of the comments with different definitions of sex, some defining it as a 2 person activity only, for others masturbation is also sex, some with comparisons to food or water, rarely a mention of biological function, how that might influence attitudes to sexual relationships. "Sex is really only a physical need" I'm guessing people are responding to the title, arguing, and I agree, that sexual intercourse with a partner is much more than just a physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:37 AM
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I interpreted it as you being helpful directly to me but I don’t have balls That was the context I missed lol, I was responding directly. I think I'm just missing the context of the relationship/political debate side if things, it's all subjective anyway, and at first was thinking sex referring to biology. Reading further into the comments, I think I've read it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:42 PM
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I think I've read your post more from a medical/biological stance rather than relationship. I thought it was an obvious need. For most men, the body is going to regularly test that the genitals and sexual function are working as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:31 PM
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I have to dysfunctional ovaries I missed that context sorry, It's just my mate's experience is quite fresh and I'd never heard of that symptom before.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:25 PM
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Well yeah you probably would. If you're not masturbating and there's a change in the frequency of your nocturnal emissions, it could be indicative of a more serious issue, testicular torsion or infection. One of my mate's experienced a noticeable slowing in the frequency while one side swelled. He took it seriously, got it checked out and caught the cancer early. So I would urge anyone to get it checked if the frequency of ejaculation or random blood flow engorging slows or stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:15 PM
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They're two different pains to experience, because different sets of feelings are involved (but once again this depends on how the relationship ended). I wasn't very clear, I confused myself reading it back lol. When I said split the group, the guys were arguing that breaking up with a best friend is super rare and most people have probably never experienced it to make a comparison. I find that many women like to share almost everything with other people (whether that be friends, acquaintances, …
/r/MensRights02/07/24 08:13 PM
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Even though the friendship takes time, once a deeper sense of trust is attained, things just click and its amazing. My partner and I were out with a group of friends and someone asked "What’s worse, breaking up with your best friend or breaking up with your partner?" It split the group, I'd never heard the question before and couldn't imagine a scenario that could end my friendships. I think the perception that men don't share stems from the strength of the trust, those conversations stay betwee…
/r/MensRights02/07/24 03:50 PM
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In my circle, guys friendships formed in a gradual way, over a significant amount of time, slowly building trust, but once it clicks, they're family. I trust my close friends with anything and know we've all got each others backs, so can tell each other anything, fears, insecurities, advice and sometimes things they might not want to hear, it's just not communal the way women share. My partner still doesn't get the blunt anything goes communication, thinks we're just insulting each other, not fu…
/r/MensRights02/07/24 08:28 AM
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Which takes us back to the start of the conversation, what is the crossover rate, why do some studies arrive at perpetrators being 90% male, others 60%, while conviction rates are 80%? Why have we forgotten that "We Should Be Careful About Simple Solutions To Complex Problems" Yeah society's can only function through socialisation, what purpose does it serve, who benefits, who compromises. What are the consequences for those non-compliant? A couple of weeks ago this clip went viral, the teacher …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:36 AM
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You've lost me, I think you're responding to points I haven't made. so assault is basically a nothing word that can mean anything. The definition is in the previous comment. and you want to use that word to say men and women are equal in committing violence? The CPS use that word to describe a violent act where the victim has suffered with or without physical contact, there's no quantitive aspect relating to gender. then we agree At no point did I even suggest it was equal, I stated it would not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:57 AM
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It was being raised as an issue by Dr Elizabeth Celi 15 years ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 02:02 AM
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It's hard to read it in any way other than purposeful, malicious possibly. What effect does treating male victims this way have on others coming forward in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:16 AM
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It's more about the subjective nature of violent crime, where harm is defined by the impact on the victim, where no physical contact occurs; Assault is making a threat or committing a physical act that puts another person in fear of an imminent harm or offensive contact. Unlike battery, assault does not require that any contact be made. Because the potential is that a victim will suffer bodily harm, assault is often classified as a violent crime even when no actual physical contact occurs. Who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:19 PM
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In the speed of the reply, it's unlikely you read the comment, or looked at the links, so you just repeat a line of argument completely irrelevant to anything I posted. How is violence defined by the Law, who decides what is more or less violence or the impact of the violence. For that reason, women will always be less violent than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:27 PM
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Why 90% of male perpetrators were victims of female perpetrators, rather than male perpetrators, or why 9:1 is reflected in media/convictions? Do reports using gendered language refer to all victims as one gender? Tackling violence against women and girls strategy: "A note on terminology: The term ‘violence against women and girls’ refers to acts of violence or abuse that we know disproportionately affect women and girls. Crimes and behaviour covered by this term include rape and other sexual of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:06 PM
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If you ignore the female perpetrators of small boys? Not sure what you're asking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:02 PM
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you'd have to compare apples to apples, not data about women from one place and data about men from another place It's not data about men and women, it's CPS data and MOJ data. The thing about using CPS conviction rates, is you don't find much self reporting of offending. as opposed to now when 100% of those victims are unprotected? This kind of hyperbole is just as disingenuous as suggesting violence in society is cultural rather than intergenerational and clinical. Erin Pizzey founder of the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:05 AM
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It's a drastic change, but it won't remove 9 out of 10 violent criminals. Conviction rates would suggest 8 out of 10 violent criminals, however a report from the Ministry of justice found women self-reported offending in 40% of violent crimes. Using the indictable offence data rather than conviction, between 2003 - 2020, it averages 2000 rape/SA offences and 180 female homicide victims. If culling 31million men to remove the most dangerous threat to women in society, leaves just under half the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:14 AM
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There will still be enough violent crime to keep lawyers in work. Mum ‘ripped off son’s penis and beheaded him because he reminded her of his dad’. It's a bit unfair on the female cat callers, and creepy staring women. Then you don't know if it will reduce or increase competition, a recent study found Women show higher levels of intrasexual competition than men. Everytime there was a shortage of men (usually because of war), women took those positions In 1938 a Schedule of Reserved Occupations h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:09 AM
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Yeah it's a cum rag, along with the Telegraph, legitimate in the sense that it can be referenced academically where wikipedia isn't. That post is another example of the OP's point, the section on support for fascists in Britain references the black shirts, leaving out their support/reporting of the British Union of Fascists bolstered by support from the Suffragettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:23 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something, maybe you're trolling, but even though the press isn't peer reviewed or partial, there's a level of accountability through the publications editor, legal team and the regulator. High school's don't accept wikipedia as reliable sources, as anyone can login and edit a page.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:43 PM
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The Womad feminist online community. Multiple posts appeared on the site, claiming that they had killed men along with photos and videos, leading to police investigations and arrests. The most controversial was the child abuse post. On November 19, 2017, a member wrote a post on the WOMAD forum claiming that she had raped an Australian boy.\6])#citenote-koreaexpose-6)[\20])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womad(website)#citenote-asia_one1-20)[\21])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womad(website)#ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:32 AM
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As legitimate as wikipedia. Feminists used violence to advance their agenda and it was justified. I think they did real harm when they removed Erin Pizzey from her own shelter and shut down her work on DV, setting society back by 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:54 AM
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but where is feminist terrorism? Does feminist terrorism exist? Britain's Suffragettes turned to 'TERRORISM' to win vote by blowing up trains and torching tearooms In the 80's M19 a feminist and anti-sexist female terrorist group bombed the Capitol 'I think there is potential for a real violent act. We will get there and the world will go ''How did she do that'?". 'Now women are getting more mentally ill. I think something big will happen and the world will be shocked.'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:07 AM
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That's the way I see it, a way of pointing out double standards, usually in the context of the media. With women being allowed in men's locker rooms, you would expect a level of professionalism and to respect the athletes privacy, discussing the guys bodies doesn't seem to be crossing a line, but I imagine if men did this it would be recognised as the violation it is. Women are "allowed" to shame mens bodies, telling them to take your own life, celebs can openly shame ex partners, and this compi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:10 AM
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I agree with this, though I think the media's role is often overlooked, and this insecurity manifests at a much earlier age than the majority of comments here suggest. Depictions of male nudity are regularly used for comedy or humiliation as a regular narrative device, a staple in children's TV shows from infants through to adulthood; powerpuff girls, Malcolm in the middle, Anger management, Waterloo road. Women's body insecurities are linked to cultural depictions in film, television, advertisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:08 AM
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I've always wondered if it was because they were worried it was gay or because they didn't want to see other dudes' junk and feel certain ways about their own dick. I think media depictions are overlooked. Where women are objectified/sexualised/desired, depictions of penis size and male nudity in general, are mostly used for comedy or humiliation as a regular narrative device. It's so normalised and accepted in society, regularly used in children's programming as well as recent productions like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:23 AM
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In an ideal world definitely, though if the religious lobby can prevent a ban in Iceland that doesn't even have a cultural tie to circumcision, it's not likely. There's a total disregard in the way those products have been marketed/promoted for victims who have suffered with adverse complications. In general, probably the way you view porn, I genuinely think the cosmetic industry is harmful and only exists under the premised that people are flawed but they have the answers for a price.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 07:32 AM
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I realised I didn't specify, because I agree using fetuses is immoral, but doesn't really have the potential to cause additional harm to those involved. I meant the foreskins provided by non-therapeutic circumcision, offered as a routine part of the birth, parents warned of infection or excess bleeding being risks, so when complications like amputation or death occur, families are traumatised. "Compare the 117 annual deaths from circumcision with those from other causes for male infants: suffoca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:54 AM
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It sounds like your Mary Whitehousing I was saying your focus on the few hopeful trees strikes me as completely missing the goddamn reality of the forest. You've lost me. You think listing the top global and national searches is cherry picking? If most cosmetics was made of chopping babies up, yes, I'd be against it. Some cosmetics isn't most, so they can carry on profiting from the mutilation and death of babies because they're reforming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:53 AM
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Human trafficking is already illegal, surely it would be more effective to eliminate cases of criminality rather than an entire industry. 78% of human trafficking victims in the UK are male and forced into the construction industry, but we wouldn't argue to ban construction. Your example is relevant to the cosmetic industry where a handful of companies are profiting from the mutilation and sometimes death of babies. The cosmetic industry has enabled those companies and profited, so there's a leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:26 PM
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I thought it was reassuring and quite surprising the things people actually find desirable, there's no reason to lie when you're on your own and not trying to impress anyone, the top global search for the year was cartoons. this is focusing on the trees for the forest. I'm not sure I get this, but I'm guessing you think pointing out the vast majority of searches don't represent the toxic content, doesn't address your argument. But if one element of an industry is toxic and harmful, should we jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:08 PM
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I agree with you there can be a toxic element in some Studios/productions, but when you look at the search/view data, they don't feature in the relevant graphs, representing a small section of users. In 2023 the most searched term was Hentai, and the top trend was Mature porn; "In the United Kingdom, “mature british” was a top trending search, growing by +751%. The category Mature is the 3rd most watched, and they are +55% more likely to watch it compared to other countries." I'm in the UK and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:12 PM
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It's been studied for a few decades now. In the 90's, Sex as Nature Intended It by Kristen O'Hara, documents the differences in sexual experiences of circumcised and uncut penises. A national survey of women covering wide range of age and socio economic background, revealed that circumcision abnormalizes the way the penis thrusts and feels to a woman, significantly diminishing her sexual enjoyment and her ability to achieve orgasm from intercourse. I'm not convinced the majority of men are engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:03 AM
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Jackhammering is more likely caused by circumcision, research indicating reduced sensitivity and in some cases pain during arousal. [1] [2] Taylor's studies conclude that the ridged band is "richly innervated" and "intensely vascular." It stands to reason that as a result of this greater sensitivity, intact men are less likely to engage in the not-so-pleasant "jackhammer" style of sex -- I've found that to be the case, at least. Circumcised men tend to penetrate much more vigorously, in the jack…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:58 PM

Seeing that it appears in the female and gay search data as well as male, though not as high, my guess would be the studio/slick productions come across as inauthentic, a bit AmDram lol. More experienced amateurs seem to enjoy themselves more or are better at selling it. I'm guessing mature would be included in other kinks searches too? Chav is the one that got me, not sure anyone would have guessed that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:07 PM

OP (and a lot of others in this thread) are acting as if the only demographic of people who watch porn are middle-aged men, when all ages of both sexes are searching for it. Definitely, so many weird assumptions some have got to porn. In the Pornhub 2023 and 2022 review "teen" doesn't make the search or category chart. Topping this year’s trends was mature porn. In 2023, the MILF category gained +1 spot to become the 5th most viewed category worldwide and the Mature category gained +1 to become …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:11 PM
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I just don't think it's black and white and we should be wary of those bearing simple answers for complex problems. The "all men" question, man vs bear, poisoned skittles analogy was used to demonise muslims and Syrian refugees and is rooted in Nazi ideology demonising the Jews. It’s also pretty well established that tribal cultures raped the shit out of their women. You can also find tribes of Kali worshipping female cults that tortured and murdered men and boys as sacrifices.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 04:55 PM
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It's actually scary the way she was treated and just because she said women can be violent too. That's the way they treat a caring, compassionate, progressive women's rights advocate for wanting to help men and people still can't see them for what they are.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 04:22 PM
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I have to gently push back a bit on some of these ideas. I think the problem of male and female violence is far more complex than casual interactions. It's cyclical and normalised in childhood, requiring clinical intervention with specialists focusing primarily on protecting infant victims as a priority. The problem is, Erin Pizzey founder of the first shelter in the world, was making progress in this area 50 years ago, a victim herself, she saw all victims, female and male, deserving of her hel…
/r/MensRights25/05/24 10:11 AM
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You're right, there has been a few token Ad campaigns with normal models, and the film industry hasn't changed. The Summer blockbuster starring Emily Blunt and Ryan Gosling. Female nudity still used to sexualise as an object of desire. Male nudity still used for comedy or humiliation as a regular narrative device, shows like the White Lotus, Sex/Life, The curse, reinforcing positive or negative character traits in relation to penis size. If the regulators can censor bad language and violence, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:22 PM
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Yeah definitely failure of education, they should be teaching taxes too, I never use Pythagorus. I think broadcast regulators are failing adolescents too, reality TV should have "this is scripted" watermarks throughout, and then to balance out shows like Euphoria's high school depiction, we need something like a Napoleon Dynamite series for the socially awkward, mundane school experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:35 PM
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It may have been more talked about, but not always positively. Came to make this point, between wet dreams and random erections in school, masturbation was and still is more utility than sexual. I'd say most guys of high school age were far more concerned with avoiding public humiliation and waking up in a mess, erections perceived as a lack of self control, sexual stimulation, rather than an involuntary biological process like a venus fly trap, snapping at the faintest pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:22 PM
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His list at the end. Voter ID in England led to racial and disability discrimination, report finds
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:50 PM
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men sometimes do it in public places, you'll never see a woman do the same Woman is arrested after being caught masturbating with a VIBRATOR on Georgia beach and telling cops she thought no one saw her: Police say she was NOT drunk and NOT on drugs A woman who was seen masturbating in a Plymouth city centre shop doorway in front of children for 20 minutes has been handed a suspended sentence Half-naked woman, 26, is charged with indecent exposure for 'masturbating on street-level patios in front…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:07 AM
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If you genuinely want to help people, instead of just telling them they're wrong, try and look for the causes. It's unlikely that one graph would be the source. What is the source of most body insecurities? People tend to trust public institutions especially those with independent regulatory bodies with a duty of care to protect society from harm like the media and press. Standards are set in regards to advertising, content, misinformation etc. setting a cultural standard and barometer of what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:34 AM
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It happens indirectly. It's like saying insulting someone with "you're giving off some real raised in the projects energy" isn't problematic because you don't know how they were raised and it's nothing to do with the targets upbringing, it's that they're behaving like someone who was raised in the projects. You don't even care if someone was raised in the projects, you only use it because some of those that were, are insecure and feel judged and shamed for it. You're not saying there's anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:59 AM
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It was never about equality, they excluded black and working class women. In the UK Emmeline and Christabel Pankhurst dismissed working class women "as the weakest in society and the least educated, while realising that enlisting middle class women [to perform militant acts] got them more press coverage, made a bigger splash." Pioneering feminist activist, Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate, was also a white supremacist and racist who openly advocated …
/r/MensRights20/04/24 07:00 PM
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The depiction of male-on-male or female-on-male rape as comedy is another example of a pervasive double standard. Must be a contributing factor in how some law enforcement treat male victims. Media depictions of male nudity in general, are mostly used for comedy or humiliation as a regular narrative device. I thought the increase in male nudity in films and TV might lead to some healthier or positive of the male body but it was more of the same in greater frequency, productions like Euphoria, Wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/24 03:23 PM
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I think most people don't want to hurt others and are probably unaware of any harm they're causing, understandable in context of media depictions. Society is shaped by its institutions, the media trusted in representing what's culturally acceptable with the approval of legal teams and independent oversight of regulators. There were no repercussions or consequences for these broadcasts and production teams, and could be seen as an endorsement. That compilation demonstrates how ingrained and norma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/24 12:40 PM
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this compilation as an acceptable way to report and discuss a near fatal crime where someone was tortured and mutilated by multiple shows and networks. r/everydaymisandry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 04:42 PM
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See the word “almost” I was questioning that interpretation and providing an example. Countries that granted the vote at the same time; Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Myanmar, Canada, Chile, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Ghana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Israel, Jamaica, Latvia, Lebanon, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Poland, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Thailand. Women suffrage obtained within 10 years; Bahamas, Iceland, Ireland, Mauritius, Netherlands, Pakistan, Philippines…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:10 AM
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In the UK, common men got the vote at the same time as women in 1918, working class women gaining the vote in 1928.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:35 AM
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I've thought similar, in the UK, for centuries the monarch appointed politicians from hereditary peers/aristocracy with no votes/elections until Oliver Cromwell removed Charles I in the mid 17th century, establishing the republic Commonwealth of England and a period of political reform, leading to the Parliament of Great Britain in 1707. The aristocracy recognising this trend of ever increasing representation, took advantage of the system while parliament was still unelected and made sure they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:36 PM
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I think it's important to define violent crime, as a large proportion of violent crime stats involve no physical contact and can be verbal or written e.g. cyber bullying and in the UK tweets. Assault is making a threat or committing a physical act that puts another person in fear of an imminent harm or offensive contact. Unlike battery, assault does not require that any contact be made. Because the potential is that a victim will suffer bodily harm, assault is often classified as a violent crime…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 09:47 PM
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I've got a bit of a different take on this, that it's a symptom of a cultural shift caused by the greed of the record industry in the internet age. Up until the late 90's/2000's subcultures built around genres were a significant structural part of society, easily identifiable and representing differing politics/attitudes in large enough communities that it was common to have pubs or venues catering for that specific group. Subculture differences were the dividing lines in society rather than gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 09:24 AM
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Would you say it's generally seen as acceptable among your circle?
/r/MensRights22/03/24 11:35 PM
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That's the thing that get's me, I don't even remember any locker room talk in High School, the focus was getting in and out as quick as possible avoiding pranks and creepy teachers (female and male).
/r/MensRights22/03/24 09:40 PM
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There's been plenty of campaigns, and a fair number of groups out there so maybe the problem is visibility and engagement. It's recognised as a significant public health issue and this parliamentary report shows the numbers affected are increasing, maybe regulatory boards need to do more, especially in regards to safeguarding children.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 07:02 AM
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I think early feminism was more hateful and likely caused a great deal of harm to African American's in the South. Pioneering feminist activist, Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate, was also a white supremacist and racist who openly advocated for the systematic lynching of African Americans. Increased numbers joining the Ku Klux Klan were due to the recruiting efforts of women's suffrage. Many members were related to Klansmen and some women joined the W…
/r/MensRights16/03/24 02:40 AM
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Can't forget the white supremacy "Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, was one of the Progressive Era’s most prominent and acclaimed women’s rights activists: an advocate of women’s suffrage, equal pay, and many other feminist causes, she became the first woman to serve in the U.S. Senate when, at the age of 87, she was honored with a single-day appointment as Senator from Georgia on November 21, 1922. Yet she was also a white supremacist and racist who openly advocated for the systematic lynching of Afr…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 04:48 PM
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The thing I find most worrying is it seems like their belief that SV is perpetuated by men and refusing to see women as perpetrators, ignores the significance of research demonstrating a victim to perpetrator cycle; Childhood sexual abuse is significantly associated with subsequent sexual offending, Cycle of child sexual abuse: Links between being a victim and becoming a perpetrator 80-90% of victims that become perpetrators were most likely male victims where 92% of perpetrators were identified…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 12:10 PM
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Yeah totally, everyone has their own understanding, I'm just wondering if the semantics and focusing on the intent of the insult, rather than the harm, goes some way to justifying the shamer and ignores the victim. I am saying that its use is irrelevant to the size of the target but not irrelevant to those that you are saying target is exhibiting the same behaviour as, they're so worthless and insecure their body is a common insult accepted by society. That's ultimately unrelated to the subject …
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 07:08 PM
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I think I get your interpretation, is it more like blonde, big breasted women being associated with bimbo's, but because we don't know her intelligence personally it isn't direct body shaming? But since BDE is essentially understood to mean relaxed confidence whereas SDE would suggest insecurity and over-compensation, if you used analogous words or phrases, it would remove the association with body shaming. This is the bit I get stuck on, no matter how people use it, their intent or how it's sup…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 02:52 PM
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What would you say falls within the concept of body shaming, if genitals or breasts don't make it? Don't we have to take the victims interpretation and impact into account, we can't police people's experience/feelings? In your definition does it only cause harm when it's a direct attack? Why the need for tiering problematic behaviour, the outcome is the same. Not trying to be combative, I just find it odd that you agree there are issues with it, but don't define it as body shaming? Do you think …
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 01:01 PM
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I agree with a lot of what you said, though I think it's a much deeper issue and so normalised we don't see just how pervasive it. Media depictions of penis size and male nudity in general, are mostly used for comedy or humiliation as a regular narrative device to audiences of all ages. There has been an increase in male nudity on film and TV in recent years, but rarely as something to be appreciated or in a positive context, but as a way of conveying something about the character, scenes in Eup…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 02:25 AM
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That's kind of what I communicated in the TLDR. It isn't actually shaming an individual, but it perpetuates a prejudicial notion about penis size and its associated traits/characteristics. There's obviously no correlation between confidence and penis size. But there must be a culturally understood flaw/failure attached to size or what would be the insult? Flipping the genders, "that's small boobs energy, I don't know the size of your boobs, but you know how all girls with small boobs exhibit pro…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 02:05 AM
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That's a study examining the validity of the TIE test "The evidence for the validity of the TIE will probably arise from multiple studies with diverse samples and a variety of theoretically related criteria." "Further progress in the measurement of EI is undoubtedly required. In our opinion, future studies should provide an in-depth look into the true nature of “general” EI." There's no consensus around emotional intelligence in the scientific community. Berit Brogaard D.M.Sci., Ph.D 2021; "one …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:24 AM
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I took some time to look over those studies and while they refer to differences for individual markers within the sexes, none claim this equates to overall difference in emotional intelligence. I guess there will always be those openly claiming genetic superiority, thankfully they tend to be on the wrong side of history
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:57 PM
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In what studies? The one I referred to previously showed no gendered difference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:31 PM
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So that fits with what I said women score higher on empathy and interpersonal relationships. That's just one part of socialisation and doesn't equate to emotional intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:30 AM
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Papers like this Women better at reading minds than men used self reporting surveys from a pool of 4000 participants. Whereas Gender differences in social interactions used international clinical data from millions of patients stating; "We all assume that women are more emotionally intelligent, perhaps because women tend to express emotions more than men. However, in the millions of people who have taken emotional intelligence assessments worldwide, men and women have been shown to be equally em…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:59 PM
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A few examples here Pop Culture Detective
/r/EverydayMisandry04/03/24 06:58 PM
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Point 3 of eli_ashe. I always show people this video. I remember the way it was reported shocked me almost as much as the crime. I know most people have seen this but it shows just now normalised violence against men has become. There are more clips of other shows out there too, but these are practically sociopathic, which I'm not saying those in the video are, but the messaging is so ingrained, that the mainstream media broadcast this, the audience found joy in it and then they reluctantly apol…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/24 10:28 PM
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Depending on age, Scouts is a good escape, my nephews love it, they're given quite a bit of freedom and responsibility learning self discipline, learn new skills, learn self sufficiency and to be responsible for those younger.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 05:22 AM
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So did you interpret what I wrote as sexual? I don't think anyone associates mothers rocking their young as sexual. Do you only have platonic and sexual feelings? I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:42 AM
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This is where I think we must have completely different frames of reference/understanding. Men have friends and can be extremely close but it's a completely different dynamic. It must be the same for women, It's hard for me to understand how a women could have those needs met by a friend. So even if you just wanted to spoon or hold someone for a few hours, a part of you must know that with a friend it's a chore and they're not really getting anything out of it? Wouldn't it feel pointless if it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:36 PM
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I guess, if you don't have a partner, are unable or worried about paying a sex worker, it serves as some kind of outlet, I don't know about main outlet. Or are you talking about guys in relationships? Without getting too graphic, and as stupid as it sounds, there is a utility reason for staying regular, eliminating the chance of nocturnal emissions, or even part of forward planning to avoid embarrassing unwanted rises in public, most guys experience that public humiliation when there young and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:15 PM
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I'm not sure, i'm in a long term relationship, but through my job in a performing arts venue, I work with a lot of young people and they are all struggling like you say. In the last couple of years, I've noticed a shift, so I'm just trying to see if I can listen and learn to different perspectives, pass on things that surprised me, I found interesting. I don't think It's sexual, it's deeper than that, deeper than friends and I'd say possibly family, definitely not the same as friend connections.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:55 PM

When men say it boosts their ego to be chosen by a woman, they don't mean in terms of status. They mean because so few people have ever loved them or even just regarded them in a positive way. It's a boost to their ego because their ego is in the trash bin normally. This is it! I don't think they realise failure to success ratio, maybe when we finally pull it off, it's such a shock to the system we don't have enough practice at staying cool lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:10 PM
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Aahh I think I see, you're approaching it with the general understanding that everyone ends up in a relationship? I guess it depends on your upbringing, I'm in my 40's and it's always been pretty normal that a fair few people stay single, just looking at historical averages, around 30% of men never marry or enter long term relationships, the current figures showing 63% of men under 30 as single in contrast to 34% of women under 30. I think there's less expectation and more hope maybe from men. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:45 PM
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Women are more likely to experience domestic abuse, but the crime stats don't really tell the full story, medical professionals seem to have a bit of a blind spot. In 2017/18, of those that suffered from partner abuse 32% men and 23% of women suffered a physical injury, 2.1% of men (3.4% women) suffered from severe bruising or bleeding, whilst more men (4.3%) suffered from internal injuries or broken bones/teeth (0.4% women). The ONS partner abuse figures for 2021/22 do not have figures for men.…
/r/MensRights26/02/24 10:45 AM

I'm genuinely confused though, "impossible for them all to think it’s possible for them" to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:25 AM

I thought I was going crazy, so many people saying they recognise this but I'm with you, I don't recognise it at all. Status games against who, to what end? Who judges? Is this saying men get pleasure from other people's misery in a constant battle of one upping each other? Sounds exhausting, people need to remember that love Island and reality TV isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:05 AM
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But that's my point, most violent crime isn't prosecuted, or reported. The Australian Bureau of Statistics reported that 97.2% of men do not report domestic violence to the police, compared to 82.1% of women that do report. When male victims do report, This study observes very different treatment of male victims, "Those men who called the police for help reported unfriendly and antagonistic police treatment and the police’s reluctance to charge abusive female partners." With such a large dispari…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:56 PM
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But where does 95% come from, ignoring disparity in the reluctance of men to report crimes, going purely off the most recent conviction stats, 18% of violent crimes were committed by females and 2% of sexual assault crimes committed by females, 20% female 80% male in the criminal justice system, The NHS and home office using medical data from victims receiving medical care reported that victims were 55% female and 45% male. The violence perpetrated by men and women can only be defined by the imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:28 PM
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Serious question, why do you think men would be less fearful, physical advantages balanced in the use of knives, bats and scolding water from a kettle often reported in the press. Men are deeply affected by DV, of the male victims known to charities in 2022, only 3.2% of male victims report their their suffering to the police, 82.1% of female victims reporting. When victims do report, This study observes very different treatment of male victims, "Those men who called the police for help reported…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:16 AM
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I completely understand that male violence is a legitimate and ever present threat. What I struggle with, is this conviction of it being a uniquely female experience, men aren't taught to modify their behaviour to stay safe, never feel vulnerable or unsafe in public, when they definitely do. We can't fail to recognise or deny that a significant number in society also live under the constant threat of female violence, the data presented in official CDC documents stating that men represent 40% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:51 AM
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It wasn't just RT though, CBS and FOX are on that compilation and a quick search finds a lot of examples. When one guest does pushback they're dismissed pretty quickly. Concerning that this was the general attitude in mainstream media, daytime television and print, maybe it's a bigger problem than we realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:45 PM
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I'm not sure what we're disagreeing on, I don't know any one who would behave like that either, but it wasn't deemed as problematic by many TV networks, journalists and audiences, receiving very little backlash after being broadcast. This must be an indication of a normalised attitude in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:26 PM
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I wouldn't say rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:02 PM
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Just wanting to add some context and nuance in this conversation. Are there any factors which might contribute to women being under represented, do both sexes get equal treatment by police and the judiciary. In many US states Rape legislation doesn't recognise female perpetrators so they wouldn't be arrested. In states where women are included in the legislation, what percentage of men and women report their assault, and do those that do report it receive the same treatment under the law. The Au…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah in the Lorena Bobbit case the press and media covered the crime as a joke but still shocking and extreme enough to portray Lorena as an unhinged Latina. The reason I was initially referring to the Catherine Becker case, was to highlight how normalised violence against men has become. The crime is no longer seen as extreme or shocking, it's still seen as funny, with some of the hosts openly expressing pleasure in the act. Theres no mention of the premeditation, drugging and restraining her h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:15 AM
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Not that case, there's been a lot more since then, this was the more recent case of Catherine Kieu Becker, the husband wanted a divorce. I Know the Lorena Bobbit case, abuse as motive was first introduced by her legal team during the trial. The initial statement at arrest, the reason she gave was that he always finished before her. Not saying she wasn't abused, but it's not in the first statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:38 AM
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The Catherine Kieu Becker case? There are female and male journalists reporting on and discussing the story, across different networks, as an acceptable way of treating torture and violence against men. It's normalised in society, the audience laugh along, then when they receive complaints, they don't think there is anything to apologise for. I'm not saying women are worse than men, but that suffering and violence against men is so normalised, and nearly alway's depicted as a comedic trope, men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:30 AM
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https://youtu.be/cbhXqs6j4aQ?si=LXNb35Ob9YCCoTKz That's weird, the title is "Misandry times: Wife cuts off husbands penis", a compilation of how the crime was reported
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:46 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhXqs6j4aQ Not only is it not treated seriously, but an acceptable source of comedy and light entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:26 AM
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I agree with your point on the moderates, I can't understand how so many people can readily accept theories based on an academics subjective interpretation or a psychic ability to read mens minds, exposing the harmful male gaze, and an uncontrollable urge for violence and power. The over riding need to achieve ultimate equality, gender differences can only be seen as a construct, easier to accept men as violent and an ever present threat, than entertain any possibility that there are fundamental…
/r/MensRights19/02/24 12:09 AM
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I don't know about the majority of women, but openly dehumanising men, is so normalised it doesn't even register as problematic. The way the media treated the Catherine Kieu case a while back, the broadcasters thinking it was acceptable, the way the journalists were then shocked at complaints and didn't feel they needed to apologise. There's genuine joy in a strangers near fatal injuries, no thought of the victims suffering, or the effect on family and friends that could be watching. None of the…
/r/MensRights18/02/24 09:07 AM
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I don't know about the majority of women, but openly dehumanising men, is so normalised it doesn't even register as problematic. For me a big light bulb moment was the Catherine Kieu case a while back, but not in the crime itself, but the reporting of it, that these segments were green lit, acceptable and even in the way these journalists were shocked at complaints and didn't feel they needed to apologise. There's genuine joy in a strangers near fatal injuries, no thought of the victims sufferin…
/r/MensRights18/02/24 08:53 AM
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I don't know about the majority of women, but openly dehumanising men, is so normalised it doesn't even register as problematic. For me a big light bulb moment was the Catherine Kieu case a while back, but not in the crime itself, but the reporting of it, that these segments were green lit, acceptable and even in the way these journalists were shocked at complaints and didn't feel they needed to apologise. There's genuine joy in a strangers near fatal injuries, no thought of the victims sufferin…
/r/MensRights18/02/24 08:52 AM
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I completely agree, I'm in my forties and I noticed a shift in the last 10 - 15 years. To me the arguments that extreme red pillers and extreme feminists hold are identical, only differing in the sex of the target. They both use caricatured and over simplistic faux evolutionary examples e.g, women's value is in their purity and service to her man, or men are only violent perpetrators and have no self control. To me they are both equally ridiculous and I really believe the large majority of men a…
/r/MensRights17/02/24 04:08 AM
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Exactly this, I always find it weird that people associate body insecurities with sex rather than societal pressure/expectations. Even if penis size is irrelevant in the act of sex, culturally it's definitely a negative, used as a common comedic film and TV trope, or to ridicule and humiliate someone. Celebs regularly shame ex partners size on social media, and the press rather than calling out the behaviour, the penis size alone deemed of public interest and worthy of publishing. LDE is an insu…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 12:44 PM
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Yeah it's a bit heavy handed and only seems to serve a small group. Just a shame that there's so much mistrust and like you say, a tendency to view the other sex as one homogenous group. Maybe it's because subcultures and linking a sense of identity to them isn't as prevalent as it used to be. When I was younger, subcultures connected people through common beliefs, attitudes and music, more important than gender difference. Through fashion, there was a visible separation of these groups in socie…
/r/MensRights10/02/24 07:27 PM
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Yeah it only takes a couple of publicised examples and it has already produced the desired effect, men leaving women alone. Social norms have been superseded by the threat of criminal charges and even though the possibility is remote, why risk it when apps and online dating provide that initial interaction. I don't think we'll see that wave either, as data shows men are avoiding social interactions in general. One woman's run of the mill unwanted advances could be another's emotional harassment,…
/r/MensRights10/02/24 04:06 PM
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This all makes sense to me, apart from the fact they all seem genuinely confused and shocked by this cultural shift, unaware of new laws or changes to existing legislation, words now included as SA, intoxication the sole responsibility of the man and the ability to retroactively withdraw consent at a later date, represent the possibility of criminal charges as a sex offender, on the interpretation and whim of a stranger. That's a lot at stake to all likely be rejected. Those women who like being…
/r/MensRights10/02/24 02:52 PM
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Just to add another perspective rarely acknowledged when discussing why men avoid medical intervention. Early experiences for boys and girls differ immensely, girls treated with care and concern to preserve modesty, by a medical professional of the same sex. In contrast, take for instance sports physicals, likely a boys first experience of healthcare/medicine. Forced nudity in front of multiple people, usually all women, with no sense of care or thought for how they're feeling, treating it as ha…
/r/MensRights10/02/24 08:50 AM
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Just to add, men being raped by women, isn't recognised by law, so there is another huge gap in data there
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 08:32 PM
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One observation I've noticed, there is an ever constant flow of articles where journalists and scientists can't work out why men aren't happy with their bodies/penis size, but at the same time, nearly every scenario in film and television where a guy ends up naked he's being ridiculed mercilessly and ends up humiliated. It's not hard to see where that connection for youngsters is made.
/r/MensRights12/01/24 04:03 AM
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