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I get the same feeling with 70% - 80% of men who try anything with me. Seriously, I have no clue what makes them think we would even be a good match. Plus I would never lower who I am to be with someone. I would end up hating myself and resenting them till I broke up with them. I am adding some context because of comments I read. One I am never rude about it unless they are distasteful. Two I am around a great class of men but still find some gross (don't take care of health and half my life is …
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 01:08 PM
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Spot on my friend. This is Reddit and in the big scheme of it, all those downvotes mean nothing.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/22 04:47 AM
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Sounds like you may have some bias yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:05 PM
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I won't argue against that persay. It definitely changes but it is possible to keep a relationship that is not sexual. It certainly can be hard for many to accomplish but I have seen it done. Often though they have to end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 07:00 PM
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I have always known they would have sex with me if I asked but do they push towards us having sex is the issue for me. If they are capable of having a friendship without sex getting in the way. Why should that part bother me? A lot of women think about having sex with their male friends but don't push for it. Also if it does become an issue. You both should have a good talk about if the friendship can continue if one doesn't want to. We are human and it is bound to happen. That doesn't mean you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:13 PM
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It varies from twitter, telegram and discord. To even some less known areas. Even my job is more male dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:26 PM
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Thank you, and I agree. We were meant to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:24 PM
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Or get upset and blame the other because it is easier to. We have a huge problem in society where no one wants to take responsibility for their behavior. Something else. Men teach me useful things. Things I can use in life or make money from. Even if a female knows how I have never had one offer to teach me. Minus the older ladies. They are always helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:05 PM
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I engage myself in the male areas online more. One because I find what they find interesting more interesting. Two I love how they encourage each other and us it in my own life. Women just don't do it as men do. The men make me want to do better and the women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:58 PM
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I think Obese women are fat because they have mental issues. Which the bad personality and all contribute to each other. People don't like them because they are fat. It is their personality keeping them where they are. I work with a very heavy but awesome personality female. She has a great job and is liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:12 PM
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I agree with this statement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:10 PM
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There are also women and men who do it freely. But you do have to be careful that they are not being trafficked.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/22 03:04 AM
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I believe we did more harm than good by making men not have to be the provider. Now look at men. Look at society it is weak men are weak now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:10 AM
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You hit a lot of why I am single but I think I have now also hit the time where it is just time to give up either way. Guess it is a good thing I don't mind being alone. With that said I believe in traditional marriages and people having kids. I got tired of the stupid games and gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:06 AM
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I agree. One reason I can not keep a man is I don't enjoy traditional romantic gestures. Like V-day I don't consider a holiday. Don't give me flowers, jewelry or teddy bears but I am always upfront about it. But the men seem to end up hating it despite assuming they will love it. I think it comes down to talking to the person and seeing what they expect and like. No expert on either side can tell you what your partner really wants.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/22 02:55 PM
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If you dont want him. I will take a try at it. I personally don't date anyone else but redpill men. They know how to be real men more often than the others.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 02:27 PM
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Well obviously they are different as men and women are different. I was pointing to the fact that men also age. That men also lose the ability to reproduce at higher and healthier rates. It is ridiculous to think it is solely on women as we all age. I also believe a lot of people choose to ignore the other side of science showing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:45 PM
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There are some of us out there but like I said most millennials treat their bodies like crap. However, if both do take care of themselves they can easily have a child later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:07 PM
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I read a study that stated men lose healthy sperm at a higher rate than women lose healthy eggs. But you never hear them talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:31 PM
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Seems a lot of guys fail to realize people are living longer and healthier now. Except for millennials. Most of that generation doesn't take care of themselves. However, if they take care of themselves they could easily have kids in their 40's and live to see the kids grow up. Not in a nursing home.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:28 PM
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This 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:03 PM
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My first thought "That is retarded". I am highly attracted to it. You can have the best body I have ever seen but if you are stupid. I am walking away from it. Happened a few months ago. He had amazing skin, ass, arms the whole body going on. I couldn't get past how stupid he is. Or how he used low-level manipulative technics on me. My friends were telling me "Just use him for sex". I couldn't even use him for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:11 PM
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I have also had a few guys claim to have other women. When in reality they were just trying to get me jealous and think they are wanted by women to get me attracted.
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/21 12:32 AM
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So women with responsible parents prefer responsible men. Go figure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:49 PM
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You hit the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:12 AM
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It is what you are choosing to do and be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:08 AM
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I was just thinking along the same lines. It makes me thankful I don't mind being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:06 AM
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I get really tired of seeing comments like this on reddit. This is not true for most. This way of thinking and comments like these lead to depression and loneliness. It is like the comments stating who likes who and who should be with who. What made you the high authority on who likes who and who should be with who? No one knows who I and what I want but me. Places like reddit and other social platforms have really messed up a entire generation. Or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:00 AM
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You all do realize this isn't how things normally play out. right? It is just fun to imagine it play out. right? Either way no wonder most men are lonely and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:38 AM
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I remember seeing someone state on here that he moved his career and life overseas to an Asian country. Thinking he would be able to find an HIV woman easily. Long story short. Come to find out none of them wanted him also. So he moved overseas and still was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:35 AM
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I only say it because I have been told many times I do or am. I personally don't see why they would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:35 PM
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More dominant men love to try and dominate dominant women. So you will attract them. It took my roommate suggesting maybe that was my issue for me to realize it. You are going to have to be the one who makes the moves on the less dominant men to find men who are not into braking down women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:36 AM
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I actually agree with this. When a man loves it is different from when a female loves. Not saying women don't but it is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:23 PM
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Best answer I have seen.
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/21 04:24 AM
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You need to make sure the man you marry is one you enjoy being around and he enjoys being around you. Always respect each other and even sexually (when you get older) satisfy each other. Listen to each other and when there are true issues really work on them together. So often people wonder because they are not satisfied at home. That goes for both sexes. Lastly you have to just do your best to not find a man that will always wonder no matter what you do.
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/21 04:15 AM
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I like your spirit.
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/21 04:09 AM
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I agree with the second to last paragraph.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/21 08:14 PM
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Also good advice for her to start fixing herself. Sounds like they both shouldn't be in a relationship. They both need some work first.
/r/RedPillWives07/10/21 03:31 PM
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People don't change. Or they don't change enough to change who they are at their core. Women are stupid to believe this time and time again. Leave and don't go back.
/r/RedPillWives07/10/21 03:25 PM
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I realize most people will see this has a horrible thing to do. I actually don't see a problem with it. As long as the person knows in some way that it is or could happen. Only downside is finding out maybe more then you should or hoped for. I would seek out as much as I could on someone I was going to be with. It makes sense to me. Women with kids of all people should be the ones doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:33 PM
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I would tell you it was over if I had something to hide or not. At least give me something saying this is what you will do before you do it. If I am ok with it I will keep you in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:20 PM
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Men control who they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:15 PM
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You don't need. You want one. People misinterpret this. I personally would much rather be wanted then needed. I am a traditional woman and your degrees are something you bring to the table. Cooking and cleaning is not all a woman can bring to the table. I am around mostly conservatives and all the woman are very strong, intelligent, smart, ambitious, feminine women. Most who have been married for many many years. Don't think you can't be to attract a man and to stay happy together. You can't pre…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/21 12:24 AM
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I find men say that but once they get a woman who is. They find they really don't want a woman who is intelligent. Studies even back this up.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/21 12:12 AM
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I don't WFH but I even hate the idea of things "going back to normal" in certain ways. Like traffic my commute was so easy before people started going back to work. As of now during traffic it is still a shorter commute. I just don't know if I can get it all done once everyone goes back to the office.
/r/RedPillWives10/09/21 04:21 AM
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I also got banned for not hating men enough. The red pill subs have always allowed me to stay even if I disagreed.
/r/RedPillWives10/09/21 04:01 AM
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I don't go by the 3 date rule. It could be the 15th date for all I care. I refuse to give it up to be used for sex. However, I do understand and agree sex compatibility is important. I find most guys don't pass my sexual compatibility test. So I am also willing to spend more time on a guy I may end up not staying with because sexually we don't match.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 10:34 AM
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I hate when a man uses things as "cuddling" or "Watch tv" instead of just saying "Can we have sex". I will always say no if they lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 09:36 AM
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Older men definitely do try.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/21 03:36 PM
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Thing is we all have one and everyone wants you to know theirs. Nothing will change that but that doesn't mean you still can't have yours.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:53 AM
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I found myself in that situation a lot in my life. Which also taught me no one really needs a label. They tells us we have to fit into these groups but most of us really don't. I have talked to so many people politically to know we are all individuals.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:49 AM
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I get hated on here often. So thank you.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:45 AM
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I would agree. It makes the person feel better about themselves also. Rather then just admiting the truth. I will say that most who consider themselves in incels really are not incels. They are just lost and depressed at the moment. Don't realize that even the hottest person has a hard time finding someone. Especially in the environment we live in today. Everyone is struggling. Also anything that is or resembles the truth but may hurt to admit gets hated on on reddit. So don't feel bad about tha…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:39 AM
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I wouldn't say you are evil for this but actually are starting to see things for what they really are.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 03:33 AM
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Neither are great but I guess you are right. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:01 PM
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They always downvote what is the truth but they don't like to hear on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:17 AM
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We all do. It is called being human. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:15 AM
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Sounds like you may have taken the nice part to far when you were doing it. It isn't that we don't like nice guys. It is guys who are overly nice. It comes off creepy and we wonder if he is Ted Bundy. We don't like being overly complements. Makes us wonder what he wants out of the interaction. Plus we just want to get to know you and enjoy being with you. Of course we all enjoy some complements from time to time but there is a thing as to many complements. Sounds like you were young and they wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:11 AM
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I get men mostly 5 to 10 years younger then me approaching me. Which could be part of my dating problems. They all still want to play stupid games and I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 09:48 PM
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You don't look over weight to me from that photo. A full body photo would tell more.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 10:49 PM
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I would question the give everyone a chance one. I once got that advice and it was the worst advice I gave a try. Some women have more chances then others. Which opens the door for more risky men.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 10:40 PM
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I have a hard time finding these good men I hear about myself. So I don't believe I am much help on that one. However, I do know about taking care of ones body. Don't loose weight so someone finds you attractive. Do it so you feel better and can be healthier. Best of luck to you.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 10:37 PM
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I can take a 3rd attempt as it as a man. But the guy is white, tall and attractive. Maybe use a different guy this time? I have done several different female accounts. With different levels of attractiveness and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:54 PM
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I am not a man but I have made a male profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:29 PM
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A lot of us find ourselves in this place. I don't really have a answer to give you. I am told how attractive I am and how much everyone loves me blah blah blah. But I could get laid but no one wants anything else. The worst advice people give me is "Well you put off what you get" Change your behavior". I have asked my actual friends if I have whore wrote on my forehead and they all say no. I don't dress proactive. Actually very modest. I don't post any photo's of myself online. I don't talk abou…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/21 02:57 PM
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I must be highly educated then. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:38 PM
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Most of the good jobs you don't need to go to college for these days. He isn't wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:37 PM
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I just want to say thank you for being able to just say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:36 PM
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Trust me the shirtless pics don't get you many messages. Most females avoid those men on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:33 PM
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Haha Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:36 PM
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Not even sure I should reply to this idiotic comment. He was actually good at sex and did try to please me. But his abusive and lazy behaviors turned me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 02:20 PM
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Not even sure I should reply to this idiotic comment. He was actually good at sex and did try to please me. But his abusive and lazy behaviors turned me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 02:20 PM
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Not even sure I should reply to this idiotic comment. He was actually good at sex and did try to please me. But his abusive and lazy behaviors turned me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 02:20 PM
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I can't say I completely disagree with you. On something I would change it up. First I completely agree that we are lost without our culture and gender roles. Two the government causes more harm then good. In my divorce. I was very adamant that we kept them out. During the one court hearing just to get the judge to sign the papers. The judge tried to mess up what we had agreed on and signed a in three weeks a year prior to the judge signing the papers. Thankfully we both stuck to it and told the…
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 02:18 PM
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I can't say I completely disagree with you. On something I would change it up. First I completely agree that we are lost without our culture and gender roles. Two the government causes more harm then good. In my divorce. I was very adamant that we kept them out. During the one court hearing just to get the judge to sign the papers. The judge tried to mess up what we had agreed on and signed a in three weeks a year prior to the judge signing the papers. Thankfully we both stuck to it and told the…
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 02:18 PM
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I can't say I completely disagree with you. On something I would change it up. First I completely agree that we are lost without our culture and gender roles. Two the government causes more harm then good. In my divorce. I was very adamant that we kept them out. During the one court hearing just to get the judge to sign the papers. The judge tried to mess up what we had agreed on and signed a in three weeks a year prior to the judge signing the papers. Thankfully we both stuck to it and told the…
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 02:18 PM
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That they do and thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:58 AM
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I would disagree. My last BF gave me better orgasms' then my ex husband did. My BF was not hot at all. Why my ex husband was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:47 AM
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I had a guy who would blame me for everything like that. Always pretended to be some nice guy but it was all a act. Even when I did exactly what he wanted. If it wasn't what he wanted that he thought he wanted. He would even hit me and do this little uncomfy ego laugh. Glad I got rid of him. I should have known after the second time he stated "I don't know why everyone always leaves me. When I am always so nice to everyone". Or something similar to that. He was always complaining that he always …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:37 AM
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One issue is media putting unrealistic expectation around sex. I didn't start learning about male and female issues around sex till I started reading about it online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:34 AM
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In my younger years I came to see this in myself. Everything sexual was made out to be disgusting. I had thoughts of sexual things but never would act them out. I remember my mom even telling me majority of the time sex isn't even worth it. She wasn't wrong as most sexual encounters are not worth it. But she should have explained it better to me. So I was thinking all sex was horrible and a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:32 AM
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And all you got out of this was women need to communicate in bed more? This was about more then sex. This was about all the things that really matter. That if you do those men could continue to get what seems to be the only important thing to them good sex. Until you realize what is more important you will probably keep leading to a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:16 AM
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I don't get jealous easily but I do get jealous of the very small amount of women who find men who don't stop caring. I don't get jealous that she found some hot guy or some rich guy. I get jealous that she found a man that cares and cares till they both die.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:12 AM
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Reading all these. I couldn't disagree that women state these but I was also thinking of all the things men state all the time. It is just a human thing unfortunately. I find it just as annoying, boring and low effort. I also agree with a lot of the guys here about the playing games. Both sides do it and I am done with it. So much I am like many of you and have just stopped caring about being with someone.
/r/MGTOW227/07/21 10:43 AM
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I completely agree that the only reason a women should hold opinions or beliefs shouldn't be just to attract a male. But this sub is about relationships and finding a man. Which maybe why it is brought up in that way. Also I have no issue with others expressing their opinions or beliefs that are different from mine. Again I am in politics and deal with it all the time. Even within the party I work in. It is the not allowing the other person to speak or even considering the other persons views th…
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/21 04:39 PM
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I agree with this also. Just let him know you are interested. Men need to hunt.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/21 04:04 PM
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I agree that some people take these words to strong. Women should have a voice and opinions. I am in politics so I am very vocal about my views and opinions. Men seem to love it. However, I believe where this comes from is when we allow it to control our lives. It is all we talk about and don't allow other views and opinions in. Never listening to what others have to say. I was selling something to this lady the other day and she never allowed me to get a word in. Even assumed my political belie…
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/21 03:53 PM
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I wear no makeup and men seem to really like it. Just going to throw that out for the ladies.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/21 03:48 PM
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So what about the guys who come back but still don't want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:11 AM
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Where did I say I was attractive. I could just see things for what they really are. The downvotes just proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:29 PM
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Being attractive isn't all that it is made out to be but anyone who isn't. Doesn't want to hear that. It is a empty ego chamber of them trashing themselves and attractive people. Try to explain it to them and they refuse to even hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:57 AM
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If a guy starts with "Hey gorgeous", "Hey cutie" or "Hey sexy" I don't even bother replying. Doesn't matter what he looks like. I don't reply to some very good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:53 AM
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They refuse to acknowledge the fact that men did help but men did help. Men maybe a lot of negatively things but that doesn't mean we have to ignore the good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:52 PM
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We will always have genders. As we all are born a male or female. There is real no good argument against it. You can make up whatever you want to argue it, but the fact of the matter is we all are male or female. Which are genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:38 PM
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Exactly and I picked up on it our first time out in public. I called it off shortly after.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:26 PM
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Agreed. Can't say how often I hear " That is a good looking man" and I just can't see what they see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:30 AM
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I date less conventionally good looking men. I could careless if anyone else finds them attractive. It is my relationship and they have no clue what I want and need in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:59 AM
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I get a decent amount of attention and I turn down all sexual advances. It is definitely possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:47 AM
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I have felt like a wrist watch before. It wasn't a good feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:43 AM
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I work in politics and I lean between altright to Rand Paul. I can back your statement of politicians finding them the most useful. I tried to share a few things into r/politics and stopped wasting my time. Even when it was obvious proof and gave the proof of something. They still removed all my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 01:26 PM
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I would say if those are her standards they are also pretty low. I just hope she has more then that. What she said isn't to horrible by todays standards. We also have men who will divorce a great wife for not giving bj's or anal. Or gained some weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:20 PM
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It is even scarier when you think about the fact these people vote, these people are teaching, these people are working in hospitals and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:16 PM
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It makes you a low life and trash
/r/askTRP18/06/21 10:52 AM
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This is why you don't mix drinking and sex. Or mess with people in a relationship.
/r/askTRP17/06/21 01:26 PM
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She may like you but really thinks it is a bad idea to mix personal and work. If I find I start to crush on anyone from work I stop those feelings real quick. Work and personal should never mix.
/r/seduction08/06/21 05:06 AM
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Guys are different alone with other guys. Just like they are different alone with a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:43 PM
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I will consider it next time then. I thought about it a few times before and had decided not to. Just throw it out that I liked them without saying it of course. It sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:12 PM
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I mean I could still approach a fuckboy. However, I concluded I shouldn't as it's still to close of a toss up on if guys like it or not. Now if we are friends I will say something and or be more aggressive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:04 PM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:08 AM
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Well for starters I don't get a lot of keepers coming around. A lot of fuckboys come my way. If I do get approached they think I am a lot younger then I am. I get more looks then approaches but been told I am intimidating. So not sure if that is why. Or if I am just weird and or ugly. If on the rare occasion someone actually wants to date. They and I would never make it together. I am not that desperate to just get with anyone. Plus I don't have sex quick and from what I am told that is the love…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:30 PM
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It is a mix of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:36 AM
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Last I checked I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:52 AM
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I am not fat but been single for 3 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:12 AM
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People really do misunderstand what it is all about. Which doesn't help it's image.
/r/ExRedPill25/05/21 08:12 PM
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I tried a few times to be close friends with men. They all said and made it appear like we were just good friends. You live and learn. They can't do it. However, my gay friends can do it. I believe some rare men can or they just never have the guts to try. Also how many of you who have true female friends you don't have sex with that are attractive in your eyes? Curious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:14 PM
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I don't think more needs to be said.
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/21 05:11 PM
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Tell him I said you both will love it. Makes tendies perfectly crisp (with the air frier) and cooks a whole meal in 8 to 15 minutes.
/r/RedPillWives24/05/21 09:02 PM
1

Could get a insta-pot.
/r/RedPillWives24/05/21 05:25 PM
1

No I know a guy who is not that attractive and gets plenty of matches. He has a great profile. Most guys their profile is horrible. You can be attractive but what you say can make us say no. We read those.
/r/askTRP09/05/21 07:33 AM
1

Actually some guys take that approach.
/r/askTRP09/05/21 07:30 AM
1

So I made a separate dating account. One with a less attractive and over weight female. She got lots of attention really quick. I know all them guys didn't find her attractive. So that says to me we already have q lot of couples together who don't find each other attractive. No I never replied to any one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 09:48 PM
2

I guess we all want what we don't have. I would love for a guy to actually like me. Not be intimidated by me. Enjoy actual conversations and not run off once I start speaking as intelligent as I really am. Not "nice ass" " you are everyone's type" " I would love to puf "baby in you " or even simple as " You are so pretty ". When q ma. Says I like you. I usually state " no you don't " you like my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 09:46 PM
1

I personally am not bashing anyone for improving on then selves. It is the hate and lies. The harm some do cause that is troubling.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/21 11:10 AM
1

I used to always stick around them. Always talked to them. Gave this look of I yeah I want you. I don't so much theses days but it worked. Usually took the guy a little time to catch on but still worked. These days I am more Suttle which makes it harder I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 06:10 PM
7

A lot of them do state those things.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/21 02:42 PM
2

Most are not truly bad people and you hit on a few great examples of what is wrong with redpill. I actually believe in some of the things that are associated with redpill. It just has been tainted with hate and lies. Some men taking it to the extreme and the few redpill women who allow it. Not all redpill women are push overs. Sadly I also see this type of behavior on the left. It is just more excepted at the moment. They hide behind words as "polyamorous" "BDSM" or " kink". Then everyone goes O…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/21 02:31 PM
2

So live my life as normal then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:19 PM
6

Thanks, I will try to visit those more often now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 01:57 PM
3

So where do men cold approach more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 09:15 PM
1

Which is why I have never done it because I hear the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 09:12 PM
3

That is pretty much what we do. I used to make it really obvious without saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 09:11 PM
1

I could not agree with her more. I am tired of these sleezy guys coming up to me. I have started rushing threw stores don't make any eye contact. I assume they are just sleezy men. Society has created a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 09:10 PM
1

Point is. You would be lucky to even get to just sex with one. Who knows most the ladies are free spirited these days. Maybe you will get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 01:10 PM
1

I might have some insight into it. A lot of the female subs don't allow you to interact on male subs. Because of this I have been banned from all of them at this point.
/r/MGTOW202/05/21 03:15 AM
1

Sure you are. Plus the average young 20's female doesn't want anyone over 30 so good luck with that. They find you all disgusting and to old. Different places in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 07:01 PM
1

Yeah I used to think it had value till I spent more time on it. All they ever told me was take him for all he has. Last time I made a comment. All the replies were you better make him pay. When I stated I like paying for myself on the first date. Never got any encouragement on improving myself or how to get a good man. Rp with all its faults at least provides some good advice. Qlso done properly will give you a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 08:14 AM
5

I have always felt the whole plates thing was bs. When the average man gets laid once every few years. Most is all talk to sound like some big deal. Get the others feeling less and maybe some post it to get the others moving towards rp harder. Not real sure on that one but I do know most guys don't even have one plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:08 AM
0

I am not big on submission but still believe in RP. A healthy version of it. I believe some have taken it to the extreme. Those are the ones that scare people away from it and angry post like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:57 AM
4

Being a pedo isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:55 AM
1

At first glance FDS seems good. Once you see what it is really about it really is dangerous. It really is all about being a useless female but expecting a man to have the whole package why paying for you to be a pos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:50 AM
1

This is my problem with redpillers way to often. Being one pretty much myself. The way so many explain it turns people off from it. I get the frustrations and the anger towards soceity but we will only turn people away if we don't start explaining it in a better way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:45 AM
1

I am going to have to back up what these two are saying on this one.
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/21 10:49 AM
2

Enjoyed reading this. So well put.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/21 03:04 AM
5

I have done it before and probably would not do it again. He ended up being a big cheater.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/21 03:02 AM
6

You are not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 03:34 AM
1

I take care of myself and expect the person I am with to as well. With that said I don't like huge muscles on a man. I just want him to be healthy as I want for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 03:32 AM
2

I get treated different from women because I am not horrrible looking. I can just be walking down a hall minding my own bussiness and I get dirty looks. Don't pay them any mind. Not everyone is like that and you don't want people like that around anyway. Maybe they should work on themselves and they wouldn't dislike you so much for doing it.
/r/askTRP23/04/21 12:28 AM
2

Good question. Something we all should think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:03 AM
1

I realize people can look younger. Or older. I know many who look younger. I am one who everyone believes is 10 years or more younger. Even with that said most men don't take care of themselves and age faster still. I don't have a issue with some gap but there does come a time we're it is just gross. Or how can they even relate to each other? I find most guys older have no clue about the things I am into. Sounds miserable. Old ass memes being sent to me. Ehh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:34 PM
1

No offense taken. I agree most women don't. Which is why I don't have many female friends. Or have this look of wtf when I talk to them. Making q lady laugh is one of the biggest keys to her heart. I think they can be but I also laugh at weird or odd things. I also have a dark sense of humor. I know for me personally I try to give the guy a brake at first. I realize some feel more pressure then others at first. Which is why I prefer starting as friends. Or saying it's just two people hanging out…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 10:48 PM
1

If I start to fall asleep or don't find anything they say funny or interesting. If they have nothing of substance to ever talk about. Of course it doesn't always have to be intellectual but amusing is nice. I don't even care if sometimes it's not always upbeat. Of course for each person this would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:14 PM
1

No one really talks about in person because it is harder to say things face to face to people. It is easy to hide behind a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:50 PM
3

This. Nothing gets me ready then saying the right words. Which would suprise most what those words are. You can be hot but if you are rude or boring it's not getting wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:41 PM
3

I was just thinking the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:32 PM
2

That is why nature made all sizes. Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:17 PM
1

No worries, he has even apologized since the divorce. But it sucked at the time thinking I really didn't matter. Felt more as a sex slave then a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:16 PM
-1

I have only had one man make me go "damn". It wasn't till after he started speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:06 PM
1

Average is perfect for me. I like feeling it but not being in pain from it. Even hitting below average can work for me. I am pretty small. So it doesn't take much I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:03 PM
2

After thinking about it. Low wouldn't be so bad for some cases. I was married and he had a high libido. On days I was truly tired or didn't feel good he was more worried about getting off. So I can see the appeal with a low one. When I think of it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:52 PM
2

I personally need someone with a regular sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:39 PM
1

It is possible. I am not sure where it came from. So I can't really say. I just know on average they are not huge and the whole BBC causes real issues for a lot of men on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:04 PM
9

Starting around 30 men start to loose it. Unless like women they take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:46 PM
4

Black men on average do not have big dicks. Huge misconception that they play along to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:45 PM
2

Some can be but most of us are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:44 PM
3

Who says low libido men are awesome? I didn't know that was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:43 PM
3

Not sure if it is said on her a lot but it is on other subs. I don't want a man paying for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:41 PM
1

I believe the fear for me comes from many places. I hear " You are intimidating " a lot. But I also hear it is a good thing they fear you from men. I agree and disagree with the last one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:12 PM
1

I am 4'11 and men are afraid of me. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:09 PM
1

Taking a look doesn't bother me. It is when they just stare or make rude comments that bother me. Like this guy who keeps slowing down his truck why I am walking to say something to me. I have my head phones on and don't even look at him. So have no clue what he is saying but it is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:01 PM
4

No the power he had at the time no longer exsist which is why. Plus it helped a politcal movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 01:44 PM
8

I couldn't help but laugh. I don't care what you look like. Any man that just grabs my ass deserves what I do to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 01:43 PM
2

This is a great explination.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 01:34 PM
1

Most men just want one thing from hot women sex. Becky types get the relationships and ugly women are the very last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:38 PM
2

Why do men only want to have sex with some women and prefer others to force them to wait? Or personal want to wait with some females? That is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:34 PM
36

Been sexless for awhile now because if they comment on my looks during our first encounter. Or say "Lets meet up" or "Come over" I ghost. Heck they don't even have to spend money on me. I am not even to worried about that. I have my own money but they are not going to use me for sex. It is insulting but so many women do it these days. They think it is exceptable now. Women do it because they want male validation. They think it is freeing to have sex with 50 guys in two days. When really they are…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/21 04:30 PM
4

Society tells us we should be doing all those things. Plus if we remove all those men what is left? In my experience not much is left for us. Society has turned men into a bunch of low value men who still want the cake and to eat it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/03/21 09:53 AM
2

Not sure why you got down voted for doing just what everyone else on here is doing. It was probably one of the ones who said I don't care and that we all should be allowed our views and so on. I take care of myself and being with someone who doesn't would never work.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 10:48 PM
3

I love my jeans and vans but I also love 50's inspired dresses. I will even wear vans with a nice dress. I am all for digging in the dirt and right after getting my nails done. I love being both aspects. I also don't find myself to be overly attractive but I get a lot of attention and I believe it is because I do take care of myself. I am also a feminist but also embrace my feminine side. Why are we to be ashamed or take our health down to look less attractive ( news flash ladies men will have s…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 10:07 PM
2

Or I can use either. They all mean the same thing. It is a non issue that a bunch of over sensitive people. Who like to control other decided one day to enforce on others.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:55 PM
7

Clothes to me say what type of person you are. Or I get a sense of who you are. Or do they take care of themselves. I will give thr benefit of the doubt. Maybe they were doing yard work stuff like that. Or it could tell me they work hard. Which isn't a bad thing to me.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 08:16 PM
17

100% agree with this. I don't find many men attractive and when I ask myself why. It always falls back to looking greasy, over weight, lazy, no drive or care in themselves. They dress worse then a two year old could. I find many females are becoming just like this as well. Should throw out I spend a lot of effort in taking care of myself.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 03:57 PM
9

That app will have everyone answer a bunch of random questions and matches from those. So they could be looking for different things and still match.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 06:50 PM
36

On a brighter note. He told her all he wants is sex from the start.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 06:48 PM
15

First she needs off OLD.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 06:46 PM
2

Hope only the best for you and the rest of the ladies here in life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 03:10 PM
5

I realized that I don't have any surprise or shock left when it comes to men . I just expect and know it is going to happen. Every once in awhile I will say give him a chance to be this infamous "good and different " guy. They turn out to be just like the others. Just able to hide it a little better. I don't even feel sad or even really angry about it these days. Angry still some but I am more at a point of I just don't gaf any more. Live my life and do for me. If they do change it won't be in m…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:54 PM
36

Haha Let me go check if one is up already.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:42 PM
3

I am already ignoring his sexual morning text he sent at 6am.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:39 PM
3

Lucky, I am still waiting on one tax return. I have four to file this year. I always file by Jan. 7th but not this year. Also good for you and keep it up. It also made sense as to why he was a pos after the second comment. No need to explain to me further. I completely get it and don't blame you for removing him. Also I wouldn't have contacted him. I am not having sex and since that's all men want. I have no need for them. Haha
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:33 PM
18

She must still be to young to know who men really are. I know when a man approaches me. It won't be anything but sex. If I bite I turn it around and use him. Then ghost 99% of the time now. I call thrm out on their bs unless I have a end goal to meet first. Deap down would love better then that but that is what society has thrown on us. We were lied to as little girls and if he does want to marry you. He just thinks you are good breeding material and a house maid. So what he was actually saying …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:27 PM
29

But these are all the nice guys they keep telling us about.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:18 PM
24

This is why I have never posted a photo of myself any where online.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:16 PM
10

Ahh..I get it now. Makes sense. One reason and the fact they just want sex is why I am not doing men. I am talking to this guy now but he's just like the others. Turned it into sex real quick. Even after me redirecting for days. He took innocent things and took it as I was wanting sex. He doesn't know it yet but he isn't getting laid. Nor will we ever hangout.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 02:03 PM
6

I have been the one talking about investments with the guy I am talking to all week. I actually wouldn't mind a guy who was ok talking about it. I also drive a older vehicle because I prefer no car payment and lower insurance. Which equals more money in my pocket each month. I laugh at all the people who waste money to try and appear upper class. You realize a lot of the same engines in the "higher end" vehicles are the same in the "lower". You pay for name.. or the higher end only cost more in …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/02/21 01:46 PM
3

I think today was my final day even entertianing the idea of men ladies. I am perfectly ok with that to. I am not even entertained by them any more. There are no real men left and even they were not that great. Also I have never felt bad about being rude to them. I hate when younger ladies are willing to put up with whatever and not caring about themselves to save some mans feelings. He isn't caring about hers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/02/21 11:15 PM
2

I believe I am on the other politcal spectrum then you. However, I agree with the statement being made. It is all to devide us. We are weaker split and stronger as one. Always remember they need us. We don't need them.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/21 01:20 AM
1

If with that said even the ugly ones can be just fuck boys but I don't have any what I consider ugly really chasing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:58 PM
1

I don't see why it matters but it ranges. From attractive to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:54 PM
-1

To be honest I would probably call bs if you said you actually wanted to date me. I have come to accustom to just fuck boys that I will blow off anyone who is serious at this point. Not even realizing you were serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:03 AM
1

You can easily spot the hard core porn watchers on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:37 AM
1

I find it disgusting and I only want to cause harm to the men in the porn video whenever I see a hard-core porn. Not once did I say that is hot or I wish that was me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:30 AM
0

Only way is to get rid of the porn industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:28 AM
1

Which is why I don't use vibrators. Or any toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:10 AM
0

I didn't realize men still actually wanted to date. I thought they were all just fuck boys. That is how they portray themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:53 AM
3

I believe porn is horrible. I think some in moderation at a older age doesn't really hurt anyone. It is the society and over use of porn that is the problem. I was just talking about this earlier. How I blame the left and this new women movement for devaluing women. Making unrealistic views of what sex is supposed to be. How guys just expect females to give it up right away. How they expect us to allow them to do just whatever they want. I could go on about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:50 AM
1

Well never to late to fix something about yourself. I could never live with myself also.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:58 AM
5

Hmm..never heard that before. You think for the same reason? Or could it be something else? You are going to have me paying more attention to that one. But now that I am thinking about it. You could be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:49 PM
1

I do want to add that just because she sees him as a brother. It doesn't mean he is unattractive to other women. They and anyone else in the circle are just more like family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:39 PM
1

In the over all attractions then yes. I assumed we were talking physical here as that is what people are usually talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:37 PM
5

I know why. More assholes approach women then nicer men do. Out of 10 men who come up to me one maybe a nice guy. When you are approaching so many women one is bound to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:34 PM
3

Respect. Not many guys stick to that code. So I have a lot of respect for you for sticking to it. I don't mess with other womens men. People find it odd these days but it shouldn't be a odd thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:31 PM
1

Not always true. Some time it all falls down to seeing the person as a really good friend or family member. If we don't open that door we don't see that person as anything else. Doesn't matter how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:21 PM
1

I agree with this. That is something I find attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:00 PM
27

Sounds about right. Till he gets horny again.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/20 12:03 AM
50

I had a ex bf who would throw my birth control into the toilet and then go on to say "He needed to spread his seed". Right after I went to leave. He chased after me slammed my head between the door. Splitting my head open. I was able to get into my car but so was he. I still tried to drive off but he grabbed the steering wheel trying to get me to hit a tree in his yard. So I stopped the car went inside to stop the bleeding and put up with it till he let me leave. In case anyone says it. Yes I ca…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/20 12:01 AM
21

My ex-husband did the same thing. Even would tell me his job was more important then mine. Even when I was a nurse. I still did everything else and worked. His mom asked him one day "When does she get a brake?" he replied with "When she dies". Reason being I am a female. It is my job to always do everything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/12/20 02:22 PM
10

Facts
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/11/20 05:45 AM
1

Bad when I read this and think " Thats all that happened what a little bleep". I have a habit of doing this as I have had worse happen my whole life. Then I have to check myself and realized you saved yourself. It can come from anyone is what I have learned. So keep watching and listening to the signs and yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:27 AM
8

I love tipping. I tip nicely in cash so the government can't take any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:02 AM
2

Yeah I thought we were talking about sexual not physical abuse. They are equally harming but different. If we are talking physical abuse or assault. You can find it in any group equally I believe. I could be wrong but I have never really been able to say it is more prevalent in one group over the other so much. Maybe in a lower income area it happens more often. But I believe it just happens in any demographic. Never really thought to hard where it happens more before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:56 AM
2

This was interesting to read . So thank you for sharing. It actually kind of does. I have always actually been turned off or had this worry feeling with more Chad types. Especially the ones who actually have toxic masculinity. Of course some may say all men do but that just isn't true. Some may carry a few traits but I am talk about the huge egos, assholes, everyone priases them 24/7 and so on. Anyway I usually reject them to save myself from any harm. I have had things happen. I have always kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:48 AM
1

That is debatable. But you sound like a fool. You need to work on yourself some. Not a real likable person you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:04 AM
1

I have ran more game on guys and making them think they are me. Haha But it gets old also.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 02:51 AM
56

You are new here aren't you? Most here want them to feel like we have and be treated like we have and are. I don't see the issue when they shame us all the time for less offences. But of course no one is forcing you to do it. If you feel more comfortable avoiding it. So be it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/20 01:10 AM
7

I am going to do this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/11/20 01:08 AM
2

I am happy and very ambitious. So I have no clue what your talking about. Every time I improve it only makes me happier. The more I work the happier I get. I just had two weeks off from one job and was bored. Thrilled to be at it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:01 AM
1

Both good question. So they just settle on anyone? They never push to do better in life? I have been told several times by males that the only reason they do anything is for pussy. They don't work hard for themselves. Just to get laid. Pretty disgusting to be honest. I honestly don't believe that to be the case for all men but for far to many it is why they even take a shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:58 PM
3

Men don't try to better their lives? Men try to "upgrade" on women all the time. Did you forget about all the old guys leaving their wife of 30 years for the 20 year old babysitter. To only end up alone in the end blaming all his problems on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:55 PM
6

Plenty of studies prove women are happier and healthier without a man. Men need us to live longer. We don't need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:47 PM
3

This 100%. All my older female friends refuse to get remarried. They say they will no longer cater to man. I also refuse to. First thing that pops up in my head that bothered me for years in my marriage. Was the fact he always had to put his shoes in the walk way and I would trip over them all the time. He had to take more steps to take them off there then by the front door in the corner. I have a list of things but just something so simple caused so much trouble. Or when I would be very busy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:38 PM
1

Something you just can't work through. Like alcoholism, drug abuse, over spending putting you two into high amounts of debt, abuse and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:35 PM
5

100% this. So much I just started telling every guy no. Tired of wasting time deciphering and realizing what I knew from the beginning. He is just a fuck boi. I was ok with just the fucking for a few months and it even got old. Most fuck boi's can't even fuck. Maybe when I get bored again I may entertain fuck boi's again but I am just not bored enough right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:20 PM
3

Good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:18 PM
2

On my way into work so cutting this real short. So say I like apples. I would say " I really really like apple. I wont change the fact I like apple". Same as " I don't like you. You are a asshole". They will be like I bet she like pears. Or she's just saying that. Playing hard to get". I am very very direct to the point they should cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:38 AM
6

I am very direct and men still don't get it. Or they think I mean something or not actually being honest but I am being very direct and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 05:29 AM
5

It is actually just not noticed in women like it is in men. They used to believe women couldn't have it. Which led to a lot of females never getting diagnosed. Many still hold this way of think. Females just have different signs then males. I wasn't diagnosed till my 30's. I was tested many times and they never brought it up. I was just different is all they would say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 05:28 AM
15

Even I hate wearing mask. I am over it. Especially for hours at work. My skin is over also.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/11/20 05:11 AM
78

Although based on truth. You all do realize it isn't just white men who tell women how to dress and act. Other races of men are just as equally bad about it if not worse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/11/20 05:09 AM
2

On point
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/20 12:09 AM
5

I coyld not agree more. If you want to be with someone why do you have to pay them to allow it? And when you want to split why do you have to pay them and have them allow it. My ex and I kept the government out as much as we could. It went so much smoother then the normal divorce. We had the paper wrote up in 3 weeks and signed. No fighting. Went to court to have Judge just sign and the judge tried to start trouble. Thankfully my ex shut him down and said if we want to change anything we will si…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:03 PM
4

Women don't want to get married also. It isnt just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 12:58 PM
11

I also except venmo.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 01:43 AM
26

Very controlling. I would have dumped him before he even had a chance to dump me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 01:33 AM
21

I just want what is owed to me. He said he would now he needs to pay up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 01:32 AM
7

Guess he owes me money.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/20 01:31 AM
1

I am going to say this as a female who is rude to men often. It is your behavior not your looks that causes me to be rude to you. 100% why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:43 AM
1

Yes 100% this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/20 01:14 PM
7

Ahh...Like how at work I have to keep men close by at a distance. So I still can keep my job. Once you say no the being nice stops.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/20 01:11 PM
21

Most guys don't call me names or anything like that. But I am also told I am intimidating. I also say no and tell them my dos and don't in a stern way. So maybe they don't even attempt. I have had a few guys try the "really you don't. You should try" but I put a stop to that real quick. Even saying as far as " If you want to fuck me you will obey them rules or I can easily just not have sex with you. I can get sex from anyone."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/20 01:03 PM
14

I am told I am "freaky" but I am not even into BSDM. It give a man to much control. Now don't get me wrong I love making a man get on his knees. But tie me up not going to happen.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/20 12:58 PM
13

In my case they all do. Even if I get the "maybe he isn't like that" feel. They all end up trying. So much I make a point to state over and over "I don't do work" "I wouldn't fuck you" " We are just friends and nothing more" stuff like that. Even if I say we will never be more it always ends in the talk "I told you we were just friend". Kind of depressing actually. To realize you really didn't have a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 04:36 AM
1

You don't have to be hot for a man to fuck you. I often ask guys " So you prefer a dead pig or a alive pig?". Point being you don't have to be conceited also to realize men are nice to you just because they want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 04:34 AM
2

I interact with a lot of men and I always know the only thing they care about. I know they really don't want more then sex ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 04:31 AM
3

I know the perfect one. The purplepill one. Doing it now.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 03:06 AM
2

It shouldn't bother you. First most these days don't see it in as of a negative light as they used to. Just the older bunch. Two who cares what people think. Three are you happy single? I have no issue stating I am single and I am very happy single. My mom used to say you will find the right one some day. She now says I don't think you ever will get remarried or date a man. She finally figured it out. My life I can honestly say hasn't been better since I stopped telling myself I had to have a ma…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 03:02 AM
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I get this all the time. Or I am just to picky. Or I am just not open to love blah blah blah. But then if I say I was abused "wHy YoU PicK sUcH HoRibLe MeN? yUO sHoUlD vEt BETer". I get approached a lot and I often say so you mean all men then. As if all the men I attract are LVM then we are talking about all men. I attract a wide variety.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 02:59 AM
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I actually had a few guys admit they do this so we get tired of fussing and just do it ourselves and to stop asking them to do things. Keep bitching ladies or just leave them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 02:54 AM
3

It is there way of "supporting" the mother. I remember a whole push for it all over the networks a long time ago.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 02:04 AM
2

Facts
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/20 01:57 AM
3

So avoid all? I may actually do that again. I am getting pretty tired of dealing with men again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 03:41 PM
1

First I didn't even know about his past till recently. We had already been around each other for awhile. I notice the red flags. Which is why he's not allowed to get to comfy. But I also notice red flags with every man. I usually pick them up quick. Which why I haven't dated anyone in three years. I only do friendships. Also if only shitty men are approaching. Why don't the good ones? Cause I am looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 02:49 PM
0

Love how you all just completely ignore what was being said. This is why women divorce you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 02:36 PM
2

Were not even really dating. Just friends. I could go back to my avoid all men plan. As it is the only sure safe way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 02:29 PM
0

Well we have fun together and he doesn't treat me bad. Of course he's not long term. I wish he could be because I do enjoy his company. He even admitted I was intimidating and guys who normally admit to this. Usually don't fuck with me in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 02:18 PM
1

I do understand male behavior thats why I know. I get daily attention. Don't think you realize how many men you are calling shitty. Also on the very rare occasions I do get a actually good guy. Sadly one is at work and I don't do work. I won't give up my livelihood any man. Most of you do these things. I actually even believe most of you don't realize you do it because no one ever calls you out. Women are to afraid of hurting your feelings or worse to say it. It is still taboo for many areas for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 02:07 PM
1

No not to me. I could careless whats in your bank account when it comes to this. I only care whats in the account if we will be long term because I won't be paying your bills. I cover mine and he covers his. But I won't be taking care of a man like that. Also if he overly spends in a flashy way. I get turned off. So that could make him fail real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:57 PM
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Most have done it but his was pushing her head on his dick during a blow job. Most of us ladies hate that.i have left men with hard dicks for doing that. I also didn't say I was going to marry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:48 PM
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Assuming you don't like to hear the truth. It is always a concern of ours. Which is another reason we say no often. It is one of the first things women worry about when guys are around. Many women still hide this from you all because you all don't like hearing it but I don't see why I should have to hid what you all do. Fuck your feelings. I and many other women shouldn't have to just deal with it silently. How about you all become better people. Now I am not saying all guys will do this but eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:41 PM
3

FDS is about avoiding LVM which isn't a bad thing. Women have to worry about so much when they start interacting with men. I wish I had FDS in my younger years. I could have avoided a lot of abuse from men. But it took years and many men to make me stronger enough to beat there abusive asses. A lot of you don't like hearing it but men are abusive even turns out many of you so called nice ones. So if we are about to be hounded for sex or raped we at least got a free meal out of it. About 2 months…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 12:55 PM
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I know the whole spending money on me is to show me he is serious. If a guy doesn't even offer I take it as he is just in it for sex. Unless we talked about it prior (which I do often) and decided I would pay for myself (which I prefer often). If I pay for myself it also says I don't take this serious. I didn't allow a man to pay for me till about 4 weeks ago now in the last three years. I even bought him breakfast to say thank you for him paying so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 12:40 PM
1

Wonder if he is single?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/10/20 11:51 PM
-1

Yes it is. Anyone who comes at me with "great game" usually gets a no. I am also not into guys who are to muscular. Many women don't like it. It really comes down to being clean, Make her laugh, don't be rude and treat her right. It also comes down to feeling like you could be around that person. If that makes any sense. Like you would pick a friend but picker because they would be around more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:21 PM
1

It is a preference based off of insecurities. I have no room in my life for someone that insecure. Among a few other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 05:08 PM
2

They want a virgin so women have no one to compare them to in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:12 PM
1

You are not a low value male because you say you are doing well for yourself. Again you keep diverting the real issue to bs. Which makes you one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:50 AM
1

You sound like a low value male. You still don't really address the real issue. Which will always make you low value. You keep diverting around the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 02:08 AM
1

Sounds like a hurt ego. Noticed you didn't argue the men are vile part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:18 AM
1

I did forget the other part of FDS. We realize that a good portion of men are pretty vile. So women who do want to marry and have kids but can't find a good healthy partner will choose the money in exchange for the abuse .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:46 AM
1

Haha 36 and have never stopped working out. Have always taken care of myself. Have two kids and still feel 20. Never needed a "self help" scam to tell me I should treat myself good. I treat others nice and yes even men. Do I expect a man to pay? I like that he offers but I pay for myself. But FDS has some useful things within it to actually find a decent man that will treat you good. That is what it is about. Not selfishness and using women like RP. I also work two great jobs and get along great…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:40 AM
1

If I have to change him to be worth keeping. He isn't worth keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 12:31 AM
2

This is a great question and full of facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 10:51 AM
2

We ladies always know. If we choose to ignore or not is the difference. She probably knew. Still no right to treat you that way. She should be putting that energy towards her man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 12:14 PM
2

yeah I don't help men cheat. Huge no no. I make them feel like crap for a long time if they try.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 04:26 AM
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Haha I know right. I sometimes wonder though. Say we caved in agreed to date. Would they still want us? Guys love what they can't have. But keep doing you. Stay strong.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 03:59 AM
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Same. I have men chasing me everyday and not one has been worth keeping around. Majority are not even worth being fwb with. I am happy working and everything else that comes with being single. Even the fwb are lucky enough to make it past 1 month. Only have one right now who has made it past 1 month and we no longer have sex. Hes trying to make a relationship happen. I have to keep reminding him we are just friends.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 03:12 AM
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I stopped dating several years ago and couldn't be happier. I do fwb but most I don't keep around long.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 02:31 AM
3

I am happy alone avoiding all the trash that comes my way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 02:28 AM
11

Some women just don't have one.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 02:24 AM
14

He was calling all men trash including himself.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/09/20 02:21 AM
0

Haha Women work. Point invalid. You all would die if you carried and had to actually be the responsible one after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 08:43 PM
0

Seriously 18 years of slavery a man get? You have to be joking. A women's body is destroyed. She is the one that has to put any career on hold or slow it down. She is the one usually stuck taking care of the kids. A man just squirts his stuff. Then feels helds captive because he has to give some money each month. Not really doing anything else. That little bit of child support you all give barely even covers half the expenses of a child. Haha you are funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 12:22 PM
2

Keep taking care of yourself and it will never drop till you get maybe 60 or older. I am 36 and get more attention now then I did in my 20's and I have always taken care of myself. I get guys coming up to me from all ages. Even 18 year old's. I have friends from all age gaps but could I with someone hitting 10 years younger? No we have nothing in common. Could I with someone 10 or more years older? No we have nothing in common. I tried a few times and they bored me. They had no clue about the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:57 PM
5

So glad the ladies now are finally starting to wise up. I thankfully found it (still find it creepy even at my age) creepy in my earlier years. I would feel really dirty when older guys made comments or cat called me. Especially when I wasn't even 18 yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 07:43 PM
2

It is a lot better. Wish more ladies would follow. We both are having fun and I always feel safe. Even when it just for sex I make sure it is with some who will treat me good. And that is a valid concern you have. Just like my concern of being abused and raped. However, that is also why I like to have the talk first. Do's and don'ts. Plus I normally don't tell them where I live and I drive myself till I get to know them better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 08:23 PM
2

These guy I tend to be or become actual friends with also. This rule I tend to follow for any man though. He can be super attractive but if I get a bad feeling or he doesn't treat me like he should. I can't do it. I had a actractive guy not to long ago. Seemed nice but something was off but gave him a chance. Only took me a month and I was done talking to him. My less attractive friend I have been friends with for months now. He is just a better person. Plus the sex was alright with the attactiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:36 PM
4

You say that like getting a abortion is just so easy. It isn't that easy and it isn't cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:11 PM
3

I will have sex with guys I am not physically attracted to. They usually are really good guys and turn out to be really in bed. Not always but a good part of the time and very giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:34 PM
5

Facts. Story time. I lost all want to have sex when I was married but started to realize I was really horny when he wasn't around. It was just him I was turned off by.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:21 PM
1

I would never date a man lazier then I. I work a lot and I work hard. I expect him also to. Plus I am afraid his lazy will eventually slow me down or stop me from accomplishing the things I want. I qould then turn to hating myself. Which I would then hate and resent him. It would never work.
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 11:28 AM
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Well it is said we all look for what feels normal. Our same crazy. So some of what is being said here could be true .
/r/ExRedPill11/09/20 11:26 AM
1

I love that area. In fact plan to go to school soon for biotechnology. More women should. I did see a study that said we are seeing more women go into STEM. So who knows what the numbers will be in a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:33 AM
1

I just have a really hard time playing this stupid game they set for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:30 AM
2

It sounded like you were headed towards rape. But yeah it is legal prostitution. One reason I get upset when guys trying to buy my pussy. I would go into sex work if I wanted to be a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:29 AM
1

That is what people assume it means. Which is far from the truth. It only means you know how to process and how you react to emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:25 PM
1

Kind of sounds like me but reverse the roles. I hate playing the female role but I do a little because it is expected of me. The way I look makes it even worse. To keep one of my jobs I have to play it. Thankfully I do get a brake from it at my other job. But it was a struggle at first. Guys wanted to do everything for me and I had to keep refusing help till they got it. Now I except help qith me also doing it but they now get it. People expect me to be stupid, weak a d just waiting for mr right…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:02 PM
1

You say you would but would you really? Many men say they are good with a relationship like that but a few months in hate it. They want the just male role.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:50 PM
1

So rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:48 PM
1

I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:47 PM
1

Thats part of my problem and why I don't let men pay for anything. I should owe you anything for spending money on me. When you chose to. So I pay for my own stuff and they can't ever guilt me in giving anything up. Because I know that's all they want anyway. I also rarly ask for help or allow one to help me. No guiltily me into something I don't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:25 PM
2

I never let a man pay for anything. A guy trying to get sex from me the other day even offered to buy me something and I called him out. After of course saying no thank you first. He wouldn't give it up. So i asked if he was trying to buy my pussy. Haven't heated from his sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:23 PM
1

Ok so what if she doesn't want you to play either role and same with her? You all just work together and support each other in whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:21 PM
4

You maybe a rare man who emotionally developed properly. It just isn't common to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:19 PM
13

But then men get upset when we turn you down. Then turn into women hating men. Blame it all on us. When all we are trying to do is find a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:34 PM
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No and I will explain why. It is because most single moms gave up everything to raise the kids and take care of the home and husband. Then when they have to go back to work no one will hire them. They also have harder schedules to work with as they usually have the kids more often. So society doesn't look down on them as harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:32 PM
1

I will admit in some cultures this still holds true. In the US it can vary. I also notice many men just hold this notion for some reason still today. When women don't as often. I hate when men tell me how much they make. Or bring up money and profession right from the start. Even the rich ones turn me off by doing so. Look I don't need you. I just would like to want you. Stop insulting women. But at the same time I try not to be aggressive when telling them they just insulted me. Because I reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:25 PM
2

Of course because then you can't complain "i dO eVeRYtHInG" "wOmEN would DiE with OuT MEn". No servant to serve you. No house bitch or sex slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:16 PM
1

I know several. Including myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:09 PM
1

Ok I will even agree some men and some women just refuse to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 07:28 PM
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We don't want to qork. Yet a lot of the women I know including myself have two or three jobs. Nice try though. I have two really good jobs in fact. Now that I have been single for a few years. I have finally been able to actually do it. When before my ex would tell me his job came first and was important. I was a nurse then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:39 PM
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My employer employees a lot of women for jobs that require degrees all the way down to hard labor. In fact would say we have mostly women. It is because the company is truly a equal opportunity employer. We have people of all ages, race, religion and sex working. However, the majority of us are women. One reason being my employer never ask what age, race, gender and so on for employment. We all even get equal pay and we all start the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:35 PM
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Not sure you actually proved what you were going for. Haha thanks for this. Also women do hold them manly jobs but you tell me why more don't? It isn't because we wouldn't or couldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:08 PM
7

Congrats on doing so well. Having a man doesn't make your worth. Having a man doesn't mean you "made it". Or make you have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 09:18 AM
3

How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 09:10 AM
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He is trying to degrade you. haha He is only looking foolish in the act of trying. Men like this have issues. Nothing wrong with being single and having fwb. Either of the sexes. What men like him fail to realize is. When they try to degrade us. They are also degrading themselves. They prove why we shouldn't be with them. Which is also one reason they act the way they do. They know they have no real value. Hurts that over inflated baby ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 09:05 AM
1

Yes you can. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:57 AM
3

That was my case. I became more isolated in relationships. Since staying single for several years. It can become hard to find time for all my friends sometimes. I do so much more also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:55 AM
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Study after study prove women are happier and healthier single. It is only a small percentage that can stay happy and healthy in a relationship. But that percentage were in actual healthy relationships where the man helped and the communication was great. I believe many never had kids and kept working at building careers. That is not the norm. for the majority. So relationships actually kill women faster. For men being even in a unhealthy relationship extends your life. Reason being the women fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:51 AM
2

This 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:32 AM
1

I can actually agree and disagree. One would first have to assume my jobs don't require a education. Which one is actually very professional and everyone is educated. Even in the public light so one must be careful. With that job I have to speak to many people. Which everyday one guy hits on me. Yesterday I just got a bussiness card and another offer to "cut my grass" (I get these a lot cutting my own grass).I can be walking in a parking lot and a guy comes up to me. In stores it doesn't matter.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 01:56 PM
1

You didn't have me till field research. That is something I can get into. Another issue is is that I am not really looking for a relationship and would feel bad about approaching a man. Knowing I will probability won't want what he does. So even guys that do want to stick around. I had already told them I don't want a relationship. Just had this talk last week with a guy. Who I have been telling from day one there will never be more then us being friends. Thought we were good friends. He thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 12:07 PM
2

As a lady who struggles with not hating all men. Send me a dm if you want. I feel like we could have good conversations. I have another so called incel I talk to and we have become good online friends. We both still struggle but we do it together. haha
/r/ExRedPill06/09/20 10:42 AM
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I try to not dislike men as much. I will even give some men a chance to even just be actual friends. They all screw it up. I have only had three capable of just being a friend with me (I value their friendship a lot). Any time a man approaches me I give him everything he needs to know of how I work I guess you could say. They don't listen. Or like this guy the other day I told him I work from 6 am and don't stop working till 9pm for the next few months. So I won't have much time blah blah. I gue…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 10:18 AM
1

Do I detect a bit of jealousy because some one can't? Fyi: I don't drink nor own any pets. It's ok to just say " I am a lonely very horny guy. Who takes my frustration out on women".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:09 PM
2

Wasn't so much bragging then trying to make a point. I also understand what you are saying. I dont feel special by the attention I get. I even ask guys sometimes "You prefer a alive pig or a dead one?". Even qith that said. I still stand by what I said. There are plenty of moms you would never even know had kids and are hot af.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:34 AM
3

She was probably teating you out first. No man will know about my kids if I can't trust him. To many crazies out in this world and my kids will never know about you unless I plan to keep you around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:29 AM
1

I lie to men all the time. I tell maybe 5% that I have kids. None of them figure it out. I do it to protect my kids and I have no plans to keep these guys around for to long. These guys never even come to my house but the few that have been here never even figured out I had kids. Haha The best part. I have my kids paintings and photos up. I should state that I never lead guys unto believing it will ever lead to a relationship. I tell them from the moment they come at me that I will never date th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:13 AM
5

Haha I have had two kids and have at least one guy comment on my looks or ask for my number daily. The one comment is just me leaving my house to go to Walmart not even out of my pj's and no where else that day. I lost 20 pounds the first two weeks after I had my daughter. There are plenty of hot moms. I can get several numbers in one day sometimes. I can't even tell you how many guys are still on unread in my messages. Might want to rethink your comment. Again plenty of moms you would never kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:01 AM
2

I am a single mom and won't date someone with kids. Maybe if he had kids young and they were about out of the house and well behaved. I might consider but young kids hard pass. I got pregnant young on birth control. Never wanted kids. I have one put of the house and another who is amazingly easy and well behaved at 12. I refuse to put up with little kids again. Especially ones that are annoying and not well behaved. Plus I enjoy my free time and I work to much. Main reason I don't even want a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:53 AM
1

I don't hold it against them. I get it actually. If I was open to even dating. I would want him to have no kids. I am almost done getting mine out of the house. I dont want any more . Nor do I want someone else running around. I actually never even wanted kids. So I dont get upset. I actually get told by guys often that I am a pass because I won't have the reversal surgery so I can have kids again. Pass on being a keeper but they will still fuck me. Go figure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 01:42 AM
16

We don't know. Could be all she had the ability to do. Figured it was the better option still.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/08/20 09:01 AM
49

I thought she was trying to prorect medusa? By transforming her into something to protect herself with. To scare and punish men for what they have done to her. Also messed up how men changed the story here also. To hide what they truly are. Sad they are still at it after all this time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/08/20 08:59 AM
11

Yeah I would say a good number of the guys I mess around with are not conventionally attractive. They are just funny and treat me good. If he loves strong women I get wet af. I don't date anyone but when I was attempting to. My last bf was not attractive at all. Among other things but he treated me great at first.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 02:02 AM
3

Also not jail bate or animals. 😉
/r/ExRedPill26/08/20 01:58 AM
3

Been told I remind people of her.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 09:08 PM
3

Loved it so much i watched twice. May watch again.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/20 09:06 PM
6

Haha I had the same first thought.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/08/20 12:33 PM
1

This
/r/ExRedPill04/08/20 10:00 PM
4

Best answer i can give you is read her. This works easier in person but still possible over text. Follow her lead in a way. Women will usually tell you how far to go without really saying it. Just take it slow and making her laugh is always a good thing if all else fails.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/20 07:53 PM
1

Sadly you are also correct.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 08:28 PM
2

You are a male correct? Because you could not be more right on this.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/20 08:27 PM
2

I had asked a question about two or three years ago. Just trying to figuring out what they were about and to try and understand it better. I was told that sub was not the place to ask question about the philosophy. Go figure right but yes only questions about which laundry soap to use is allowed. Or how much allowance is far.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/20 06:48 PM
2

Hes actually not a bad guy. Just wants a kid with my genes. Had another guy say the same thing but I'm not willing to go through the surgery to reverse it all and be pregnant. Had a lot of money offered.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/20 08:18 PM
2

I even have this one for over a year trying to just have a kid with me. He knows my age and he keeps trying.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/20 06:26 PM
1

I even have men trying to "lock" it down often. Haha Most even know I can't have kids.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/20 06:25 PM
2

So every time I ended up with a asshole. It was my friends who would tell me give him him a chance. I never even wanted to date back in the day. I would give them a chance and I ended up abused. So I have learned to stick with my intuition and not listen to others. Also didnt appreciate the worn down comment. I'm not worn down and get more men coming after me now then I did in my younger years. Not a day goes by that I don't have someone coming up to me. Not so worn down I assume. If you said th…
/r/ExRedPill01/07/20 06:17 PM
1

If real. Possibly he was abused and always slept this way. So it is more familiar and comforting to him. I don't know but I do know I couldn't also sleep in a nest.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/07/20 04:56 PM
2

Nice men always win at the end of the day. I won't even be "friends" with assholes now. Or even do one nighters. Fuck them
/r/ExRedPill01/07/20 04:28 PM
3

Thankfully he is your ex and hopefully no one becomes his next.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/20 10:21 PM
5

Preach it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/06/20 02:03 AM
2

Facts. Life hasn't been better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/06/20 02:00 AM
8

The simple answer is Yes. Hate to say it but it is true. Never happier being single. I guess you could try it but don't get stuck.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/05/20 06:11 PM
5

Facts
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/05/20 06:03 PM
9

I have three myself. Yet never get sick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/20 07:10 PM
18

So accurate. This is why they die sooner all around. They claim because they work harder but we all know the truth. They take horrible care of themselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/20 07:09 PM
13

Potatoes are not even a vegetable. They are starches.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/20 07:07 PM
5

Ha
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/03/20 07:05 PM
4

Wow good luck haha. At least he is honest. They usually lie.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/20 06:55 PM
3

Normally I wouldnt be to concerned but I am autoimmune. So I do worry. Thankfully I work for a great company who gave all sick a month off played two weeks.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/20 11:13 PM
3

Same. I may already have it. So I am down real soon. Haha
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/20 04:30 PM
2

If I have sex with a guy without a condom I make him go get checked. I know I am clean and get regular checks at the OB/GYN already. I don't have a problem and think the count is ridiculous. If you want to have sex have it. Just do it safely. Sex is healthy as long as you do it safely but to each their own. I also refuse to be with a guy and not enjoy sex. So another reason I am probably single. My last BF every time we had sex I wondered if I could do it for the rest of my life and the answer w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/20 02:19 PM
0

That's why I only use them for dick. Haha
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/20 11:38 AM
3

I mean "sit on my face" is more for her. She could walk away after that giving no hole to him. Then she got a free drink and a oragasim. Plus a man left with no sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/20 11:36 AM
5

Been told this myself and refuse to except that I have to. I am just happy being alone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/02/20 07:59 AM
2

The disconnect usually comes from frustration. Say the male don't help around the house. Or he stops taking care of himself. Spends all his time playing videos games. Doesn't care about her in bed. Doesn't help with daily living so she don't have time to care for herself. Stuff like that.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/20 03:42 PM
3

This is true and something I have noticed IRL. When I am being playful, smilling and laughing the more people are attracted to me. But on that note that is why at work I stay straight faced. haha
/r/ExRedPill16/01/20 05:06 PM
4

This is really good advice.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/20 04:57 PM
3

You are capable of finding a lady. Intermediate fasting will help you loose quick if that is what you are doing and with some working out. It also repairs DNA so win win. Remember healthy is sexy and you have to do it for you not anyone else. Congrats on braking away from the RP mindset it is dangerous. So that alone will help you in finding someone.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/20 04:55 PM
3

Living = learning = living
/r/ExRedPill15/01/20 06:50 PM
1

I was going to say she lit up because you asked her on a date and not to have sex. If she is that hot she gets asked often to have sex but not to date. Shame your end goal is just sex like the rest.
/r/seduction05/01/20 01:10 PM
1

However, most guys are oblivious to there personality flaws. Then always blame it on how they look.
/r/seduction03/01/20 01:47 PM
2

Could it be women do care about more then money and atractiveness?
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:40 AM
1

You got physical when she stated she didn't want it. I bet that has a lot to do with it. A lot of times you men think you are playing it safe. When in reality you are not listening and go to far.
/r/seduction03/01/20 05:23 AM
0

We have ourselves a badass over here (stated in a very sarcastic voice).
/r/seduction01/01/20 01:38 PM
7

People would be suprised how many hot women are forever single. No one approaches them. Either out of fear or the wrong assumptions. The hot ladies more often can get laid easy but finding a bf or husband is problmatic.
/r/seduction26/12/19 02:08 PM
4

Glad someone said it.
/r/seduction26/12/19 02:05 PM
8

I would go with something like "You can tell me if I am being to fast or not more open about what I was wanting from the start. However, I was thinking we could have sex. What are your thoughts? I completely understand if you misread the whole date thing as I wanting to date you. Maybe next time I should be upfront from the very very beginning. So about the sex? ". If you were very very upfront. Simply ask " So are you still open to having sex and if so you want to go hang out at my place (or he…
/r/seduction23/12/19 06:30 AM
7

Also if you are honest I am more likely to give you a chance and not try to make you cry. I can't stand guys who lie. If you want just sex just say it. Don't pretend to want to be with me. I can usually tell from the start. Also no stupid overly sexual comments to say I want sex. Just say hey you think we could be "friends"? Or "I was thinking we could have sex sometime. What do you think?"
/r/seduction23/12/19 06:25 AM
2

Could explain this to the guys are work for me please?
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:58 AM
1

I am leaving mine in till someone talks to me. haha
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:56 AM
2

He wanted to show off. Boost his ego.
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:54 AM
2

I hope she sees this and revokes her date.
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:54 AM
1

What you did was you showed her you can listen. Which many men can't do.
/r/seduction17/12/19 02:46 AM
3

I don't mind shorter guys as I am short myself. To tall is a problem for me.
/r/seduction11/12/19 07:43 PM
6

Ok I get what you are saying. Of course looks play a huge roll for everyone in choosing someone. Even if it isn't facial features. The clothing can tell a life style like I stated earlier. Which will make me pass up on someone. I can't speak for all women but some care about looks more then others. I do know the ladies would appreciate it if men would start taking care of themselves better. That would also help you all with getting the ladies. Not just clothes and shower. Over all health. You ca…
/r/seduction11/12/19 04:45 PM
9

Guess I could have worded it better. It does have to do with appearance. So say he is dressed like a biker. It will be a hard pass for me. As I am not into the whole biker life style. If he looks to not showered in two weeks. Not going to except. If when he opens his mouth and it is all garbage. It will turn me off real quick. I could be instantly attracted but after a few minutes of talking come to find no real vibe. Then yes that also counts as figuring it out real quick. I have also not been …
/r/seduction11/12/19 04:21 PM
14

I know for myself. I know right away. I may change to just hookup but usually know if I like him or not from the start.
/r/seduction11/12/19 03:07 PM
2

Not always the case but won't deny it happens. Same can be said for the roles reversed.
/r/seduction18/11/19 07:33 PM
3

I could not help but laugh. However, so true to both. I love gay clubs. As well as that look. Makes me think of animalistic behavior. Something about it.
/r/seduction18/11/19 07:32 PM
2

I assume it goes against what they believe to be true. If what they believe is wrong or right. Humans being humans. However, could also just she was just looking at the person passing by. Or wrong time wrong place. A lot of factors as why a female would look and even lock eyes then glance away. I usually lock eyes to say yes and leave it to him to make the next move. Also could be the fact I am a female. Haha
/r/seduction18/11/19 05:48 PM
1

We all have a preference. I would add though that the how is also important. A female can be attracted to a guy from first glance and it change real quick. Creepy creeps us out.
/r/seduction18/11/19 03:54 PM
7

Some guys it is creepy. However, really turns me on when some do it.
/r/seduction18/11/19 03:12 PM
13

That look. I know all about it and it works. If done properly can work for male or female.
/r/seduction18/11/19 03:09 PM
1

Confidence does help but of course not a end all if he doesn't show much. I personally love adorable. Which shy, quiet and anxious can work.
/r/seduction17/11/19 02:44 PM
2

Confidence does help but of course not a end all if he doesn't show much. I personally love adorable. Which shy, quiet and anxious can work.
/r/seduction17/11/19 02:43 PM
3

I am so different. As I am the one who always want to give solutions. I rarely talk about my feelings. Like so little most never know what I am feeling. Unless I am angry. I get told even by men I don't give enough in that area. Maybe why I can get men so easily at first but not keep them. I just listen at first. Then once we know each other longer. I start fixing their problems and not just listening. I behave (most never listen though) like them and they don't like it. Go figure.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/19 04:43 AM
7

I would have stopped putting in the effort at this point. If he is making none himself. Moving closer to ending it. At my age I have learned to not put up with much of anything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/19 04:33 AM
4

Never get married.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/19 04:27 AM
1

So we will see in 6 months. Haha
/r/seduction14/11/19 07:01 PM
2

RemindME! 6months
/r/seduction14/11/19 07:00 PM
2

Will see. Haha Thinking of setting a reminder for say 6m from now.
/r/seduction14/11/19 02:08 AM
1

Haha Very true. Also I will give the next one a chance at actually being friends. See how it goes again.
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:40 PM
1

Problem is 😂. When I didn't act like to everyone. They would get clingy, needy and possessive. The final straw was a guy who just one day called me his gf. I had no clue about being his gf. So now everyone gets treated the same. Unless I guess I really like you as the one exception. I also believe or don't think a "true love" exist. Just people we click better with. I also wonder if we were supposed to have LTR/marriages. Which leads to another thing. I will never marry. So I look at being with …
/r/seduction13/11/19 10:08 PM
1

You are nice. I do not hang out with mine. The most I talk to them is when we see each other once or twice a week for sex. Or maybe write something to a snap. Which is the only thing I give out to guys. I never give my number to them. I did to the one I said I found feelings for. We talked about doing more and never got to it before he moved. However, I must come off as a bitch. I just don't see it that way and if it is for sex. Why pretend? Thing is they stay around for awhile and even try to c…
/r/seduction13/11/19 09:05 PM
1

Maybe a little. Not sure if it is PUA or not but I am finding it isn't common in females? I gave up on OLD as I was having to do all the work. To many were being lazy. Or just couldn't click online. Even for fwb there has to be something.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:33 PM
1

I don't do OLD. I never did that when I did. Gave up on it years ago. Meeting people IRL is better.
/r/seduction13/11/19 07:07 PM
1

You always run the risk of someone catching feelings in A FWB relationship. So we do have to realize this before we go into one. I personally prefer the up front approach. That way I know what it is and don't feel lied to. Fwb never ask me out on a date and I also prefer it. That way it doesn't feel like more. I also have more rules. As no cuddling or sleep overs. I also want to get to know them less. Only had one person I broke some rules with and I got feelings for him. Didn't help I just like…
/r/seduction13/11/19 05:17 PM
1

Smart to state what you are looking for from the beginning. Things go better when that happens.
/r/seduction13/11/19 03:02 PM
1

I pick up on it and it is a hard pass for me. Having confidence is one thing but PUA tells me these "He only wants sex", "He's bs and thinks I am dumb" among other things. I say wipe the PUA stuff and just build enough confidence and be yourself. I hate when men pretend to be something they are not.
/r/seduction13/11/19 02:49 PM
2

Just a thought. Most females hate PUA's.
/r/seduction13/11/19 04:13 AM
4

But fact af
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/19 02:53 PM
10

I am laughing so hard at these comments. One reason I gave up on OLD. Same old bs. No effort and boring af. I find irl they put more effort into it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/19 02:51 PM
1

If he was being creepy. She would not have continued to talk to him.
/r/seduction12/11/19 02:13 PM
16

Don't forget how he made dinner two years ago also. Or we may come off as a unappreciative nagging bitch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/11/19 02:43 PM
5

I reply with a simple "None of your bussiness". Seems to get the point across.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/19 12:34 PM
1

I often read these and wonder. How much of it is the truth. Men have huge ego's and will make themselves seem something special. When in reality they are low life POS. Who amount to nothing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/10/19 01:27 PM
35

I have the same rule for men. Neither male or female crazy is worth the trouble.
/r/seduction21/10/19 12:59 PM
1

Yeah same.
/r/seduction21/10/19 12:57 PM
1

So what you are saying is I will never get what I want?
/r/seduction21/10/19 12:56 PM
1

Do not be surprised if she only gave you the number out of pressure because it was a work environment.
/r/askTRP17/10/19 01:13 PM
7

She either was not that into you. Or she saw you as LTR material.
/r/askTRP15/10/19 04:07 PM
21

Yes this and most ladies do not want it at the office.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/19 05:10 AM
3

I feel the same way. Even female to female (femalehood). I will never get it. It is insulting someone would use me to cheat.
/r/askTRP14/10/19 04:25 AM
1

If he left me on read with no reply. I would leave it as so and forget about him. Send a short and simple message at least.
/r/seduction14/10/19 03:39 AM
2

I would definatly respond back to a guy who did this. Not what OP stated.
/r/seduction14/10/19 03:34 AM
6

If a guy leaves me on read with no reply. I would leave it as so and never send him another text. Most likely she did have something come up and it shows the lack of interest in her. So for me personally I would take the lack of interested and never speak to him again. I have done it several times.
/r/seduction14/10/19 03:25 AM
0

Name checks out
/r/seduction07/10/19 03:55 AM
1

I have found the opposite to be the case the majority of the time but won't go back and forth with you about it. They typically just don't do it.
/r/RedPillWomen06/10/19 05:04 AM
2

Most women nag because the man refuses to just do simple task without being asked. Or he is asked multiable times. So it goes both ways.
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/19 01:11 PM
1

Was thinking the exact same thing.
/r/seduction30/09/19 04:23 PM
2

You did the right thing.
/r/seduction24/09/19 10:59 PM
2

I see men asnwering on red pill women all the time. I know the comments don't get removed as we reply back and forth.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 04:25 PM
-2

I am on askwomen and men answer all the time. No one attacks the men. Just for anwsering.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 04:22 PM
2

It is because some of you are hateful and do treat others nasty. Not all of you but enough for everyone to take notice. I am sure if I look into the comments after writing this that I will find a bunch backing you up. Stating a bunch of things to not even ask "well could we be doing something wrong?" "What made them do this?". Just a bunch of people in their own bubble always reassuring each other they are doing the right thing. This doesn't fall into just this one group. People tend to fall int…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 04:22 PM
1

So everything is proof to fit you're narrative. Got it. Good luck . So is the point to repulse all women?
/r/askTRP21/09/19 02:41 PM
1

I would be thankful we were saying our goodbyes if a guy stated that to me. Comes of spiteful, cheesy and childish.
/r/askTRP21/09/19 02:22 AM
-1

My argument would be "Why does this not also pertain to men?". As the reasons you gave are not valid enough. Both could equally be bad judgement on either party. They also both get older. Men don't some how stay younger then women. The skin wrinkles and sags the same. Not sure how you got they are inherently masculine. When women and men were getting them for generations. Till society (mostly men) changed it to women can't have them. As far as being a good mother. Couldn't the same be said for w…
/r/TheRedPill20/09/19 07:02 AM
2

Thanks for the offer. However, I have one. He may get upset if I found a new one. Would prefer a partner.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/19 04:55 AM
2

So we both will be single forever?
/r/TheRedPill20/09/19 04:39 AM
1

Best advice from anyone on this sub ever about women. Of course that I have read.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/19 04:13 AM
1

Also from reading some of the comments. I don't believe many of you understand what we mean by "I am not your mother". No wonder so many end up in divorce.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/19 03:54 AM
2

Agreed we are not your mothers. Glad you learned from life's lessons and you should find someone who will be happy. We hate being your mom.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/19 03:39 AM
2

Makes sense to me. Just had a guy bring up one of the things that attracted him to me was how I interreacted with others. Wasn't real sure what he meant by it till now.
/r/RedPillWomen19/09/19 04:54 AM
1

I wear no makeup, never brush my hair (it is curly but brushed it would straighten), and dress casual all the time. I get daily attention from men. It does not matter. I was even in hiking shoes, baggy sweats , flannel and a t-shirt and got hit on. Not to mention all the sweat.
/r/RedPillWomen19/09/19 04:47 AM
2

Pretty sure I covered that.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/19 04:54 AM
2

I would agree the last one fit into the PUA area. Red flags were going off all over the place. I only talked to him for three days and told him I would not be interested. But I live in the south and the "traditional" man still turns me off. Do like to make sure I make of point of explaining some dislike some comes from abuse. So I may have more disgust then the average female. I also understand your point of view of girls laughing in your face. I have never nor will ever be one of them types. Ju…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 07:21 PM
1

Also some of what I wrote about. Is not just men I have been with. It goes for just men I talk to. Like the listening part. I even see them do it to other men they feel are not manly enough. My favorite is when they put down "weaker" men in front of me to try and impress me and other around them. But I am completely turned off by the behavior. I have been told that I am just bothered by "real men". Jeez if that is what accounts to being a real man. I want no part of it.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 06:32 PM
2

He was all about getting the ladies pregnant, but when asked if he would like to be. He said it sounds miserable. So I asked so how can you so easily just want to get women pregnant.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 06:29 PM
1

The younger ones come to me. I actually don't go looking for men. Half don't even know my age. Plus most think I am younger then I actually am. I am also not looking to be some guys mom. So that goes right out the door. He has a mama and it is not me.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 06:27 PM
1

So with this last one. The one I brought up. He would ask if I was sleeping with other guys, any guy he had seem me talking to in a friendly manner (he asked if I was sleeping with him). In my experiences this means controlling and some very controlling. To the point I could not go any where without him. If I didn't pick up the phone or text right away. I had to be doing something wrong and or cheating. Even being out with my mom of all people. Had several guys like that. He also stated that he …
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 06:02 PM
1

I should also state. Not all differences I prefer are from abuse but also just preferences I personally have.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 05:39 PM
1

I used to go for more masculine guys. Thought it was just what you did. I was always treated horrible and never was happy. Then I gave a more feminine and yes a leftist feminist a chance. Wow I will never go for anything else again. They know how to treat a lady. This is why I tend to go for younger guys as they lean more left. Or over all treat women better. The men after that first bf have still been masculine but not in a traditional sense. Just not as feminine as he was but they even treat o…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/19 12:55 PM
2

I am this way and believe it is because of all the toxic men in my life. They all leaned towards the traditional man. I am completely disgusted by it.
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/19 12:52 PM
2

What he said.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/19 11:44 PM
1

I wouldn't put any effort into her. She will behave like that the whole interaction you have with her. Doesn't sound enjoyable to me. If A guy did that to me. I wouldn't give him any of my time and I feel the same should go for the ladies but that is my just my opinion. Now if it felt playful I would interact but it doesn't come off that way to me. You would only be rewarding bad behavior. Male or female, FWB or LTR you should want better. Edit: Or if it came off as if she was trying to help you…
/r/askTRP06/09/19 05:40 AM
1

To say it was a females input. Lets be honest. I would know better then most guys would.
/r/askTRP06/09/19 05:29 AM
-9

As a female myself. She was basically saying 1. I am a bitch 2. I would but something is off. 3. I am a bitch and wanted to tell him in a bitchy way that he should improve his profile because I feel I am some how better then he. Of course she may not be a bitch as I did not get to read the original message. However, the way you state it comes off that way. Either way you may want to ask a few other females what could be improved. Asking the ladies instead of guys will always be more beneficial. …
/r/askTRP05/09/19 01:58 PM
1

You either have to make to really obvious that you are interested. Or ask them out these days. They are to afraid they may over step boundaries. I try to make it really obvious and even then they say let me know if I am over stepping here.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/19 01:44 PM
1

I am not dating.
/r/askTRP14/08/19 02:58 AM
1

I liked what you stated.
/r/askTRP14/08/19 02:09 AM
1

You single?
/r/askTRP13/08/19 10:36 PM
5

In my experience this is very true. I have been with good looking to below standard social attractiveness. The average to less always make better companions/partners.
/r/RedPillWomen21/06/19 06:18 AM
3

Good thing I am attracted to things other then outer appearance. What really gets me is a sweat, intelligent and funny guy. One that is so damn cute and again I don't mean outer appearance.
/r/RedPillWomen21/06/19 06:13 AM
2

First portion. Hilarious my sweats are always on hand for the beer gut man in the pea section. As for the second portion. Could not have stated it any better.
/r/RedPillWomen18/06/19 04:22 AM
13

You ladies ever just go food shopping and have a female grab her man. Why giving you the evil look? Like you were going to steal her man looking for frozen peas. The peas were just a plow to get her man. Some how we knew they would be in that spot at that moment.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/19 04:44 AM
2

This.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/19 04:25 AM
-3

I disagree. A man who has a lot of muscle disgust me. I like healthy look but not with all the muscle. Eww..
/r/askTRP15/06/19 05:36 AM
1

I have no interest in living with a man ruling my life but I do want to understand why you all do. Which is why I brought it up because no one explains why.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/19 01:47 PM
1

I don't even understand how you all could live like that. I joined to try and better understand but I have yet to. To each their own but I don't get it.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/19 02:55 AM
1

I can't even fathom even asking for a allowance. You are married it is both your money. Sounds like you two also need to work a budget out.
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/19 02:03 AM
1

Can only speak for myself. However, sick of a*sshole men. So much I could careless if I ever get with another man in my life time.
/r/askTRP19/12/18 02:20 PM
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