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Inner Game Clear-Rest-988/r/seduction23/06/26 12:34 AM
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Fundamentals Clear-Rest-988/r/seduction17/05/26 06:36 PM
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Definitely the minority but you set the terms of the relationship always
/r/seduction17/07/26 07:39 PM
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Yeah that's the point I was making, more or less. It is definitely relative to context, although I think you can demonstrate high value frame in any context., ie in a random meeting in a bar or other universal location. if you truly believe your value is higher than a woman who someone who else might perceive as out of your league it is possible to maintain long term. Mindset really is everything. If you know you're "faking it" then not so much.
/r/seduction16/07/26 06:12 PM
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So the idea that "high value" women only date "high value" men isn't true. Women date men they perceive to be higher value than them which isn't always driven by external factors, in fact it rarely is.
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:42 PM
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You can artificially inflate your value as a man. I've done it many times. Women don't have this ability, they are pretty much stuck with their genetic lot in life.
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:40 PM
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That's great man. I would recommend being on dating apps just to supplement but in person is great. A lot of people meet online these days. Good for you for getting out there.
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:51 AM
2

You'll get there man. There is plentyyyy of time. You'll get there, you just have to take concrete steps. Are you on any dating apps or anything? How's your social life in general?
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:43 AM
13

Never too late man but you need to get out of your comfort zone
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:55 PM
5

I have experienced this...only from women that were scorned and completely excagerate if not flat out lie about their experience with me. It's total horseshit dude, although I have had a few women hear about things and then genuinely not care. Not everyone is inclined to believe it
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:54 PM
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Don't let it make you bitter man. You sound young, I promise you it gets easier if you're willing to learn and grow. Its definitely frustrating at times though! A lot of people go through what you're going through, myself included. Remember the more fun you're having and the more positive energy radiates off you the more attractive you will be to people! Finding things that make you happy other than women is absolutely essential in life. They will always be a rollercoaster
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:50 PM
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Most of what we communicate happens unconsciously so on some level your interest level is probably coming through and coloring the interaction. That's why I asked about what youre thinking or feeling during the interaction. No judgement! I've experienced it before where you're trying to be chill but it's obvious there's something under the surface. That's why I would say don't treat them like strangers if you don't want polite chit chat
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:33 PM
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In other words, stop giving a fuck
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:26 PM
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You've got to be treating them differently somehow whether you are aware of it or not. Women are generally going to react to the energy you give out. Perhaps there's some thought process you have about the interaction before or during it that is different from a typical interaction. If your goal is to flirt with these women and talk to them in a man to woman sexual dynamic that's great but it's not going to be the same polite chit chat you have with a stranger. We shouldn't fool ourselves into t…
/r/seduction29/06/26 06:25 PM
1

Oh interesting.. I've never heard that. Makes sense though haha
/r/seduction28/06/26 11:11 PM
1

I'd just ignore them and not even unmatch them. I'd be ok with them doubling down their effort at that point but I wouldn't even show them it bothered me enough to unmatch
/r/seduction28/06/26 10:15 PM
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Very sorry to hear that brother. Truly terrible to be cheated on. I'm not exactly judging you for sleeping with women like that but if it effects you it might not be the healthiest. I don't think all women are capable of cheating but quite frankly a lot are That bring said there are better women and experiences out there. I hope that experience doesn't jade you too much
/r/seduction26/06/26 03:03 PM
5

If they help your confidence and you enjoy it then sure, if not maybe time to level up a bit and raise those standards
/r/seduction25/06/26 05:08 PM
3

Yes absolutely. Well said and I'm glad to hear that's your mindset
/r/seduction23/06/26 08:48 PM
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What actually started clicking for you and what keeps you going? It sounds like there is a lot of "don't give a fuck" energy there which is very underrated I think the way to surpass the realty is acceptance and having as much fun as possible in the short window of time we have
/r/seduction23/06/26 02:33 PM
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How much do you laugh about this? It sounds like you're the man but arent having any fun lol. Self amusement can be really useful as well I totally get it though dude. It's a lonely life at times
/r/seduction23/06/26 02:28 PM
4

Thats so relatable. It's really difficult to talk about this stuff to people that aren't ready to hear it. It's extremely difficult to maintain indifference, especially if you like the girl. That's sort of the "cynical" side to it. You have to walk around with a secret in a way? No?true expression of love in a man's world doesn't really get you much, but ironically, witholding it does lol
/r/seduction23/06/26 02:24 PM
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How did you or do you get out of the bitterness aspect of it all? I still struggle with that at times although I find myself laughing more than anything
/r/seduction23/06/26 12:45 AM
1

I know it won't be easy but youve got to cut her out of your life. You will absolutely regret pursuing this any further. Just cold turkey, cut it off.
/r/seduction22/06/26 06:43 PM
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You sound like you're still pretty young man. Trust me it gets easier. Keep your chin up, things will get better
/r/seduction21/06/26 04:55 PM
1

Never too late should be the mindset. Also what's the alternative, don't do it and live with regret until you die? No brainer
/r/seduction21/06/26 04:25 PM
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Women are relationship focused by nature, men are task oriented. If you guys want to argue with me about it fine, but good luck arguing with biology.
/r/seduction20/06/26 04:21 PM
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In otherwords becomes domesticated. Which is not what you should lean into if you want to maintain attraction. Leaning into your own freedom and goals while allowing her to chase you is the most attractive thing you can do. That doesn't mean "put no effort in" it means that at ala certain point there that needs to be a dynamic shift where she is investing in the relationship more than you are. She's coming to you more then you're coming to her essentially. I thought this was 101 but I got downvo…
/r/seduction20/06/26 04:19 PM
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Pulling back after sexual intimacy and allowing the woman to chase is an absolute must. She must be investing in you more at this point or it will absolutely fall apart, so yeah I agree generally. I think men misinterpret this by thinking I don't have to keep my game sharp which isn't true. But letting her come to you and invest in you more after you guys have had sex is crucial.
/r/seduction20/06/26 03:57 PM
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To summarize... Game isn't a substitute for your social skills or genetic advantages, it's about enhancing what you have and making it work for you
/r/seduction19/06/26 03:01 PM
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This tells me you don't know what "game" is. Game at its core is understanding the mechanics of attraction. It's something you can lean on in moments of uncertainty. The two things you listed get your batting average up but understanding sexual dynamics allows for more freedom and control overall It's like music theory. You don't need it to play an instrument but it can certainly help in a pinch if you are confused about where to go next or you don't know why something isn't working. Most guys w…
/r/seduction19/06/26 03:00 PM
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Yes and they are always looking for that fantasy land escape experience of not feeling like an adult
/r/seduction19/06/26 02:55 PM
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Women like being treated like children
/r/seduction18/06/26 10:45 PM
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I'm not amazing at it but the more logical and interviewy your approach is the worse it usually goes. Are you teasing? Cracking jokes? Saying anything interesting behind the normal every day? The whole point is to connect and create an experience that is better than the average small talk every day boring convo, that's why they would want to continue the interaction and set up a date. Obviously each girl will be a little different and your chemistry will vary but this is generally true across th…
/r/seduction18/06/26 01:25 AM
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It is a place where attractive women are generally a captive audience so by that logic you could go to hooters and get a similar experience. I mean if you're an incel and you've never had a woman touch you before then sure go ahead, or hire an escort even. That's not really about learning the mechanics of game though
/r/seduction16/06/26 07:22 PM
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Every guy has the fantasy of "rescuing" a stripper or at least being so cool that they aren't seen as just a client. I get the impulse or challenge, but it's based in fantasy land
/r/seduction16/06/26 02:20 PM
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Agreed. I spelled disingenuous wrong lol
/r/seduction16/06/26 02:16 PM
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I see that angle but she's also incentivized to flirt and make you feel good too. It's a lot easier to escalate and close when you're getting validated like that
/r/seduction16/06/26 02:03 PM
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I agree on this lol
/r/seduction16/06/26 02:25 AM
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I'm no psychologist but I would think that environment could potentially be worse for your health. Maybe as a very short term thing it could be beneficial... The whole thing just reeks of desperation to me although maybe I just don't get it
/r/seduction15/06/26 09:25 PM
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Sounds like you grew up and he didn't..
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:33 PM
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Wow that's kind of sad in a way, no offense to your friend. And maybe I judged your opinion too soon. It seems to be a bit more nuanced than previously thought. I guess game is game regardless of location. I don't personally want to make the strip club my focal point but I can't exactly knock it either. Also not all women you might find at a strip club necessarily work there...
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:21 PM
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That's fair
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:17 PM
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Haha fair enough
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:44 PM
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I definitely agree that there's some value to the interaction and theoretically you could escalate beyond the normal client dynamic as youve experienced. It doesn't seem like a good training ground to lay a base down for though in my opinion but I guess that could depend on your preferences. I don't personally like strip clubs, mostly for the aesthetics and transactional nature of the environment but if you do then I think it could have value. Really any interaction with women does to a degree. …
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:43 PM
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🤣
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:55 PM
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Just tell her she was too hot and you couldn't help it haha. Then go for round 2. They usually get turned on by this kind of thing man
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:49 PM
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I'm not saying there's no value in doing what you're suggesting but to call it the best way is a stretch. First of all it costs money just to enter a strip club most of the time whereas the real world is free if you're smart. Connecting with the "real her" is a good goal for talking to any woman in a service position but the reality is that for most of them you just represent money to her. There is a switch that gets flipped in her brain when she goes to work, so on the off chance you do connect…
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:39 PM
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This is extremely flawed because the women in strip clubs are incentivized and often required to talk to the men there. Also their interaction with you is often disgeneous so there's so no real metric for how well you're doing. They are operating as sales people inherently where as women in the real world don't have a predicated idea of what you represent to them. You're trolling with this right?
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:16 PM
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Bottom line dude, if she's hanging out with you and being physical with you she's interested. That's all you need to worry about. Texting does nothing to raise her attraction or interest in you, if anything over communication will lower her interest over time. Hang out like once a week and keep the texting in between dates to a minimum. You don't really need to do it, it's just your anxiety talking. And to answer your question directly some people are like this and some arent. It's just a prefer…
/r/seduction15/06/26 03:19 AM
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Definitely. Make her feel like a wild animal woman lol
/r/seduction27/05/26 11:08 PM
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I've been saying that way too much these days
/r/seduction27/05/26 11:07 PM
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Overly simplistic but not a terrible list. Not sure I agree with number 9. If she's not feeling the connection you talking it about it won't do a damn thing. Eye contact, flirting, alternating deep and light topics, making her fucking laugh. That's a better way.
/r/seduction27/05/26 11:06 PM
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True, I just think of it all as a game haha. But that's totally respectable man, I get it.
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:56 PM
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There's a decent chance she'll come back around in the next few weeks but I think you are playing it right. Up to you if you want this girl in your life or not
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:32 PM
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How long has it been since you talked? If you go full no contact they usually get curious around 4 to 6 weeks but it depends on your bond with her. If you guys were hanging out every day and being intimate she must have definitely been attracted to you The important thing is that even if you did chase a little the moment you stop you start building your value back up. So just keep building yourself up and moving forward, if she has any attraction for you left she'll be back but you should focus …
/r/seduction27/05/26 09:33 PM
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Hanging out every day is too much in my opinion. You lose all sense of challenge and mystery by doing that. They will pull back at some point if you do that, usually not permanently though. If you dont chase and let her come to you she'll likely be back
/r/seduction27/05/26 07:13 PM
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She needs to always have the feeling that she likes you a little bit more than you like her, otherwise they lose interest. If you start to feel that shifting it's best to hang back and let them come to you more or become a little bit less attached/outcome dependent. I'm not saying that's the reason necessarily but it is a common trap to fall into.
/r/seduction27/05/26 07:11 PM
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Are any of your friends willing to go out with you? Maybe you could find some kind of activity like trivia or a sporting event that could get you out of the house more. Any interests outside of work you could capitalize on socially?
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:32 PM
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How social are you in general? Sounds like you might need to get out of your comfort zone a bit and not solely rely on the apps. I mean there are women everywhere up there no?
/r/seduction25/05/26 07:07 PM
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I lived there before apps were a big thing and I had a great time meeting women. My social skills weren't nearly what they are now.. I was curious because I haven't been up there in about 10 years. I mean there's just so many women of all types, I feel like it'd be hard to strike out constantly
/r/seduction25/05/26 07:06 PM
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Damn and you're in nyc? I would think the world would be your oyster there. Do you go out much or just use the apps?
/r/seduction25/05/26 05:39 PM
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I'm 35 and I've found it to be exponentially easier although my social value is easily twice what it was when I was 25. I have a lot more confidence now as well. Have you tried dating younger women? You're just now entering your prime as a man, you shouldn't have to settle for anything
/r/seduction25/05/26 05:34 PM
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Fo sheezy
/r/seduction21/05/26 06:46 PM
1

Definitely!
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:22 PM
1

Makes sense to me. Interesting how a lot of that comes down to emotional self control and your mindset about a certain situation
/r/seduction18/05/26 10:33 PM
1

Great mindset
/r/seduction18/05/26 04:04 PM
1

Fake it till you make it though, no?
/r/seduction18/05/26 04:03 PM
1

Definitely brother! Sounds like you have good self awareness. All of this easier said than done and takes practice for all of us.. you got this!
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:04 AM
1

I like that. It's completely neutral
/r/seduction18/05/26 02:25 AM
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No worries!
/r/seduction18/05/26 01:32 AM
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I can't help but dissect every interaction because I find it interesting and want to learn but I think there are some cases where just don't have enough info to know what your mistakes were or if you even made any
/r/seduction18/05/26 01:11 AM
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What kind of person am I?
/r/seduction18/05/26 01:05 AM
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Good job for asking for her number jn person. Most guys don't even do that. I will say though, if she was giving you great energy you could always ask to hang in person first and then grab the number. I think the problem is more that it seems like you built her up in your head too much. If you want to focus on one at a time thats cool but you have to be totally removed from the outcome. Its a lot harder to do this if youre not dating or at least talking to multiple women. She might still write b…
/r/seduction18/05/26 01:04 AM
0

I like that because its the HR person response lol
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:24 AM
2

Ive had it happen before
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:23 AM
1

Why bother following up beyond that? Its not like youre going to be friends with this person
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:23 AM
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I agree its an ego thing to a degree. Also a "game" thing because sometimes they come back and I think your response here can influence that
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:20 AM
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I agree, also there's a small chance she might boomerang back around at some point. I've had it happen before even after she rejected me
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:18 AM
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I like that
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:17 AM
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Well I'd consider every element of interacting with women in a dating context to be under the umbrella of seduction but thank you for spirited opinion!
/r/seduction17/05/26 08:24 PM
1

Well I was wondering about that because wouldn't that imply a little bit of butthurt if you left them on read. I'm trying to convey zero passive aggressiveness here
/r/seduction17/05/26 08:22 PM
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There is no pain. I'm not saying I don't ever get hurt but I'm asking when you're actually not and they assume you are how do you communicate that effectively
/r/seduction17/05/26 08:21 PM
1

Definitely
/r/seduction15/05/26 06:41 PM
4

Gotta take care of yourself and try some self love brotha! Women will always be there
/r/seduction15/05/26 03:05 PM
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As lame as that it is probably better to keep your personal problems vague with the girls. That will add to the mystery though! Working on yourself is super important but even if you're depressed you could try interacting or hanging out in small bursts, then if your social battery is low and you retreat again the aloofness could actually work in your favor.
/r/seduction15/05/26 02:30 PM
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Or have some social charm and confidence, if you are average looking but socially slick you can spark some interest. Most guys count themselves out before they even make a move.
/r/seduction15/05/26 02:26 PM
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Definitely but you didn't start out doing nothing, you must have sparked some initial interest and then pulled back causing them to chase. Most guys never stop pursuing and being the chaser which means there's never any real challenge, no mystery, and no excitement for the girl. Hard to do when you really like the girl and are attached to an outcome. That being said I hope youre in a better place man, your mental health is really important for every aspect of life.
/r/seduction15/05/26 02:24 PM
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You were a challenge and you didnt give a fuck. Those are typically very attractive qualities. Not the healthiest way to get there but definitely a lesson ;)
/r/seduction15/05/26 12:44 AM
18

You've got to try some self love brother. The more you help yourself and focus on yourself the more attractive you will be. Its a cliche because it's true. Youre totally worthy of love. Youre a human just like the rest of us
/r/seduction12/05/26 03:44 PM
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Its a hard pill to swallow but it's usually a direct reflection of her interest level. Don't let yourself get strung along too much. Sometimes I like to say something like "You seem pretty busy. Just let me know when youre free and maybe we can do something." And then back off. She should either commit to a date or lose you forever.
/r/seduction11/05/26 11:15 PM
2

Pedestalizing, exactly. They're not angels as much as we want them to be sometimes haha
/r/seduction07/05/26 11:36 PM
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We've all been there, I totally know how that feels. It's always wild to me how easy talking to girls is beyond that first "awkward" moment. Not that I always close but I always walk away thinking, damn what was all the build up in my head about lol. Just keep going man. Also I think it helps to not overly sexualize them too much at first. Like you do enough of a scan to know youre attracted without salivating. Not saying you were, but I can definitely get in my head about that sometimes
/r/seduction07/05/26 08:26 PM
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Hesitation is the enemy of all approaches
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:43 PM
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Imagine if you didn't see the headphones and just opened normally, she probably would have just taken them out and and said "what?" Then you could laugh and repeat yourself. No big deal. So if you do notice next time, just try acting like you didn't. Its a tiny moment that is inconsequential
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:42 PM
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I dated a 26 year old and a 20 year old back to back and honestly the 20 year old was easier to talk to and connect with. We also had more in common though. I think what youre saying is generally true but doesn't it also depend on each person/circumstance?
/r/seduction07/05/26 02:42 AM
1

Masculine energy attracts feminine energy.. so I'd say its very important but it also exists in a spectrum.
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:58 AM
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Agreed. This is one of my flaws and it adds absolutely nothing to my life, it's also bad game for the reasons you listed. If anything she should be checking up on you
/r/seduction01/05/26 05:29 PM
6

Well theres a lot more to attraction then just a clever line or two right?
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:26 PM
2

Love it.
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:05 PM
4

Yeah except they work
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:05 PM
1

Good pictures of you engaging in a high value life. Doesn't necessarily mean financial success, more showcasing you doing things you love and that you are socially connected and living a fun, cool life. Also, if you have anything that displays other women wanting you(or just being in your life) that is the nuclear bomb of attraction.
/r/seduction27/04/26 04:18 PM
1

Make sure you've spent a little bit of time interacting with them on posts before you message and it obviously helps to have a little social value on display. The moment they start interacting with your stuff unprompted thats usually a green light. Its not the best way to meet women but I have gotten laid this way before.
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:13 AM
2

Exactly, it's not easy but the sooner you just walk away from this you will you reach a point where youre glad you didnt waste another second on her. Life's too short for that toxic stuff man, and it can be really draining if you let it. If you can detach, great, if not you gotta distance yourself
/r/seduction24/04/26 01:48 AM
1

Exactly..
/r/seduction24/04/26 01:35 AM
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Exactly and if you wait that long to get the "perfect girl" wont have the skills to keep her. Women should always be a part of your life on some level
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:53 PM
1

You need to introduce a little subtle teasing and joking into the interaction.
/r/seduction23/04/26 12:07 AM
3

A lot younger being college aged in my book, although I wouldn't say that makes you a creep, it just might not be the place to start for someone in your circumstances. I think late 20s, early 30s and up is totally fine. A lot of women 25 and up like older men. (And some younger than that but again maybe not the best place to start). I think you should ideally be talking to as many women as possible and not worry about age so much.
/r/seduction23/04/26 12:04 AM
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Had a girl threaten me with a baseball bat because I was too drunk to get hard for her. Literally kicked me out of the door with my pants barely on and my shirt off. Our first and last meeting lol
/r/seduction21/04/26 02:54 PM
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Was standing next to a girl at Kroger and we were both picking out sparkling water. I said "but which ones the sparkliest, ya know? " in a faux puzzled kind of way She laughed and it actually got the ball rolling on some banter although I did not close lol. I feel like it almost doesn't matter what you say, more how you say it and creating a fun interaction
/r/seduction20/04/26 08:00 PM
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Carpe diem ...seize the carpet
/r/seduction20/04/26 12:26 AM
1

Just stay in the game man it will get easier. Its ok to put your enjoyment first sometimes instead of worrying about her. You got this bro
/r/seduction12/04/26 11:42 PM
1

Even if you don't need it having cialis or viagra on hand is awesome. It gives you superman dick, bigger better than ever and eliminate performance anxiety because you know you'll be good no matter what. It's a lot of fun regardless, just get some lol
/r/seduction11/04/26 10:39 PM
2

Focus on being in the moment and having fun first, escalate physically second. Assume she likes you if shes hanging out with you one on one
/r/seduction11/04/26 03:23 PM
2

Gorlock lmao
/r/seduction08/04/26 06:33 PM
2

Social proof and displays of talent/skill are always good. Also being in your element and doing something you love is attractive. Just don't get too caught up in what other people think or using it soley for that purpose. In my opinion the love of playing and music should be your main focus.
/r/seduction07/04/26 03:58 PM
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Always convey less interest in her than she has for you. Sounds like you may have been a little too eager at first. Very important to avoid that in the beginning stages, it's ok to let her wonder where she stands a bit. I don't usually discuss a next date on the first date but that's just me, it shouldn't be a given that you're open to seeing her again
/r/seduction09/03/26 06:08 PM
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Self amusement and outcome independence. And yes this comes from experience but it's a mindshift change. You can have an interaction purely for fun with a woman without trying hard to make it go somewhere and often times it will naturally move forward. Not that escalation isnt important but you could take that out consciously, still have fun and still learn a lot.
/r/seduction29/12/25 01:21 AM
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