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When a husband and wife get married, the most common way for their finances to be set up is to have a joint checking account that all of their money goes into - except for a small amount into separate checking accounts for each of them. It's also preferable to have a savings account to shuffle money to, but that is optional. Anyway, the end result is the same. A majority of both of their incomes goes into one place, and the bills get paid from that account that they both put money into. It's ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:39 PM
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You have the Red Pill all wrong. You have to go back to basics. The Red Pill comes from The Matrix, and it was the pill you took to see stark reality, with all of the grittiness and dirtiness. What you are mainly watching in this subreddit is Red Pill men trying to force women to make up their mind. Either go the traditional way, or go the modern way. You can't have both. We're okay with whichever you choose, but please just choose one. When you watch Red Pill content, you are seeing personaliti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:14 PM
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No, no, no. I am one of these guys, and I will tell you why we eventually end up not liking women. I'm not going to say "hate", because that is a strong word, and it is not true. I had a very wholesome and stable upbringing. No neglect or abuse of any kind. I don't remember any specific time when someone took me aside and told me to be gentle with girls, and that they might need your protection from time to time, and that they value strength in men, but that message certainly permeated my youth.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:42 PM
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He spent a year getting consistent sex, validation, affection, and food and presumably other benefits like support with tough situations etc. She also got all of these benefits. Unless, you are proposing that she did all of this against her will, just in an attempt to trick him into marrying her. These are not things she would normally do for a man who she has feelings for? I stated my intention to three women in a row. All three early relationships ended within a week of me stating my intention…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:13 PM

Women initiate divorces 70 percent of the time. If the woman has a college degree, then it's 90 percent of the time. If you include non-violent abuse, the rate of abuse in relationships between men and women is within the margin of error to each other. Gay men have a divorce rate of 25 percent. Hetero couples have a divorce rate of 50 percent. Lesbian marriages have a 75 percent of divorce. And, lesbian relationships also have the highest amount of abuse. What's worse is that all the double-stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:30 AM
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We DO listen to women. We hear them say that they don't want men to approach, and then complain that we stop approaching. We hear them say that they want men to treat them equally, then complain when they only get equal treatment. Have you actually listened to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:02 PM

Women today cannot cook, clean, or do any other domestic chores...without keeping score, bitching about them, or complain about the "mental load" of thinking about them. That's the distinction. Men love food, and the average man is a very good cook, and loves to cook, and especially loves to cook for their family and friends, and to show off to others. All of the best cooks in the world are male. But, even mention cooking to a woman, and she immediately thinks you are disparaging her and impugni…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:46 AM
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So, some lies are okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:46 PM
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"I'm fine." "No, it's okay."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:33 PM
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Agreed. It's projection. And I'm replying to add this other quote: Take Charlie Sheen. I once saw a guy use his success in Hollywood as proof that being an asshole does not hold men back. But Charlie Sheen was tolerated because he was talented and making other people a lot of money. His value to the production outweighed the problems he caused until it didn’t. That does not prove personality is irrelevant. It proves that people tolerate serious flaws when someone offers enough value in return. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:03 PM
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So, you didn't answer my question, but instead responded with a barrage of questions. Never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:45 PM
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Yes, the trash, like clipping fingernails, is something that just always needs to happen. But, don't you see it as a bit of malicious compliance to put the last thing into the trash can, which you are standing directly beside, and then yell to your partner - who is somewhere else, doing something else - to take it out now, and then get mad if it is not NOW now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:30 PM
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No. If the trash is, say, half full, and you are about to start dinner, and dinner is going to involve throwing a lot away, including perishable stuff, can you give us a heads up about how the trash will needed to be taken out in about a hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:15 PM
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Is it possible for you to warn us before you need the trash taken out? Like, telling him that the trash will need to be taken out within the next hour? Also, is there anything that a man asks a woman for, and expects it to be now, with the consequences of not doing it being justified anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:43 PM
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I think both men and women give women a pass when they say ridiculous things like, "I'm an independent boss bitch," when they are just doing the bare minimum by having a job and paying rent, because we subconsciously know that there are differences between the sexes, and we don't take those types of comments seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:26 AM
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You know, I was going to give you a recommendation, but I just realized that they don't even bother crediting the male porn star, unless their name is in the title of the video. So, without that specific information, there is a channel on all of the main porn sites called Dane Jones. They seem to have what you are looking for. Maybe check them out and let me know if I was correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:01 AM

While some of what you say may be technically true, overall it's not what we see in practice. Women find 80 percent of men unattractive. Men, however, have a very sensible distribution of attractiveness for women. But, that graph doesn't even ask men about being attractive enough to pursue - which I think is something like 80 percent. In other words, most men would pursue 80 percent of women, is my opinion. Meaning that women are far more judgmental of men than the opposite. At least we're telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:48 PM
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No, I am not ignoring that. You think that getting a car repossessed (as they were talking about this while sitting in a car) justifies a divorce? Seriously? So, a possible bad credit score trumps the vows you took during the wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:55 PM
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About the vow thing? If anything, I am very disappointed of how lowly the women here think about vows. I mean, someone here said, "it's just words". So, then, what is your position on lying? Those are "just words". The women here are picking and choosing which words should be taken seriously, and which should not. I would consider taking a vow and then breaking it as being a very serious lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:47 PM
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I respectfully disagree. Will this be your first marriage coming up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:44 PM
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So, you don't see any consequences about her making a promise to him to stick with him until death do us part, and he patterns his life around that promise, only for her to willingly break it when she is unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:42 PM
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Since you think so lowly of words, then how do you feel about a spouse lying to you? I mean, it's just words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:33 PM
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Financial ruin? They had a car repossessed. Yet, they were filming that video from within a car. So, it obviously was fixed. Do you think you are overreacting a bit here? My father closed a bank account that they still had their electricity bill being automatically withdrawn from. This led to my parents' electricity being turned off. My parents are millionaires in the 80s. Been married for 55 years. Nothing like this every happened before. Should my mother now divorce my father?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:46 PM
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The vow is "richer or poorer". She made this promise in front of everyone. But, I guess that promise doesn't mean much? Wouldn't she hold him to the same standard? All her reasoning is, is that she is unhappy. Yet, they were having this discussion in a car. So, maybe it was a mix-up somewhere with the paying of the loan, and it got corrected. That's not specified. All that is specified is her anger towards him. So, the car being repossessed, and having a bad credit rating is more important than …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:40 PM
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Why are you assuming that he doesn't love her? He certainly is demonstrating that he does. He's against the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:37 PM
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The logs would be good. It is frustrating to work on a post, only for it to be removed. It's happened to me a few times. Maybe as an example of how to not get your posts removed. I really don't see that as an opinion. I see that as being more just a factual recounting of what happened. It would be more of an opinion if I said something like she was a shallow person who doesn't deserve marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:37 PM
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No, the exact opposite. I purposely did not include that information, nor my opinion, because, coupled with the link, my posts tend to get removed by mods - under accusations of being highly-biased. So, I purposely threw this out there with no opinion or context. I think you are missing two points: Marriage counseling and financial literacy and/or financial stability are not the same thing at all, and the vows do include "in richer or poorer". She allegedly said this vow, as a promise, in front …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:55 PM
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I remember in an elective class in high school - it was something like sociology and society - we had to work through a problem. There was a group of us trapped underground. The group was varied, with some men and some women, of all different ages and capabilities. There were ways for us to dig out, but we had a limited amount resources, like food, air, and water. Now, things were different back in the 90s, but I remember that the first person who we decided was expendable was the old lady in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:06 AM
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I think he's okay. Even though he's been around for a minute, he's getting attention now because he started playing into the algorithm, and that is landing him on some angry Feminist pages who post rebuttals and reactions to his videos. What he has going for him is that he is actually educated. I'm not the one who thinks that educated people are better than non-educated people - or even smarter - but, when someone has years of experience in a discipline, I am more prone to listen harder to what …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:21 AM
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I was joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:51 PM
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"Squirt" is a word that is not welcome in this subreddit. Just like the word "moist".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:14 AM
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Will my posts, which follow proper grammar and punctuation, set off any alarms?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:45 PM
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Honestly, how much of a typical relationship today is centered around the woman's happiness, versus the man's happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:04 PM
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Again, in all channels, sex is expected in marriage. If you are not okay with that expectation, then women should not be so eager to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:02 PM
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Oh, okay. If you say so. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:01 PM
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One of men's only sources of love and affection is sex. Is one of women's only sources of love and affection money? Anyway, women have such a wacky relationship with sex. If you are in a committed relationship, you should enjoy having sex with your partner, almost anywhere and at anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:10 PM
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Your hypothetical is not realistic. Based on the data that we have, women as a whole find 80 percent of men unattractive. And, hypergamy exists. So, it would turn out more like 2 of the men would immediately be sought after by 8 of the women. Since the scenario is the end of the world, then those 8 women would probably be willing to share those 2 men. The other 8 men and 2 women would start a D&D campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:01 PM

Are you making the claim that it was only 50 years ago that a woman was allowed to have a credit card?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:17 PM

I guess my answer is, no, women don't have to care about men. But, is there a reason they don't? And, yes, hypergamy is a huge detriment to relationships today. The thought that it's either the best guy ever, or nothing at all, is so primitive and immature. So, I don't understand why you don't see this as an issue, and are willing to just flippantly wave it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:16 PM

I did not participate in those threads because I don't agree with most of what was said there. It's not that I didn't want to rebut any points being made. I just didn't think any of it was correct at all enough to even discuss it. What we are saying is that there is an obvious disconnect between men and women, right? We're good so far? Maybe this disconnect was always there, maybe this is some new evolution in the human species. Dunno. But it's women's actions that are so damaging and dangerous …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:34 AM
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Nope. Maybe it is my age, or maybe it is due to decades of being disappointed and slowly bent in that direction, but I now see women as a liability. Unstable at best. Dangerous at worst. And I have also learned that very attractive people are certainly capable of doing horrible, horrible stuff. I also now see the act of sex as disappointing, and actually a bit silly, really. We're letting this thing dictate a large part of our brain and time and energy? I also think it's very wasteful to pursue …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:53 PM
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Lol. We know that women initiate 70 percent of divorces - 90 percent if they have a college education. We also know that this is mainly not due to the husband - as the lesbian divorce rate is 75 percent, but the gay man divorce rate is only 25 percent. And, we know that the court system highly favors the mother over the father for child custody. And we know that that usually means that the mother gets the house, because the children need to have as little interruption in their lives as possible.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:04 PM
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No. You specifically stated that if the wife doesn't do it, then it wouldn't get done: You can't just not wash their clothes, not grocery shop for them, not meal plan for them, not cook for them, not clean up after them (all dishes are dirty you can't cook), not bathe them, not take them to the doctors, etc. Your image of men is a very toxic and untrue one. She takes it upon herself, claiming that if she didn't do it, then it wouldn't get done, and then gets angry at the husband - who is more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:39 PM
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Lol. You think fathers would let their children starve. Or go without necessary medical appointments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:15 PM
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How much of that is just an invented and unnecessary mental load? If the husband is okay with the way things are, why can't the woman also be okay with it? Why does the woman get to act all passive-aggressive and yell and scream at the man when he doesn't agree with her? What makes her so special?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:46 PM
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Naw. I disagree wholeheartedly. Violence? Where? It's teaching men to have boundaries. It's okay to not want to date that single-mother that has two different baby-daddies. It's okay to not want to date a girl who has had sex with a hundred men. It's okay to push back on stupid shit-tests like the "peel me an orange" shit-test. It's okay to put up with women acting immature and desperate in public, like setting up a camera in a gym and then lambasting the guys who are also at the gym. It's okay …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:57 PM
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No, no, no. The only time most men get affection is during sex. If we were given more affection outside of sex (and giving a man affection involves a lot of allowing him to give you affection) then sex would become a far less issue. Typically, in general, on average, sex lessens after marriage. The man's desire for affection and intimacy does not, though. Affection is a good way to satisfy that without having to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:49 PM
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I think you are in the minority. Far minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:35 AM
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You seem to hate men so much. They have nothing to offer you? Are you serious that you get nothing from a relationship with a man? If you truly feel that way about most men, then I agree that you should stay away from them. We don't want to be around anyone who hates us, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:34 AM
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Affection benefits both at the same time. But I cannot tell you how many times I have been pushed away by a partner when I offered to give them a backrub. So, if you are in a relationship with a man, then you should trust him enough to touch your body - as often as possible. If that last sentence made you squirm, that might be the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:31 AM
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Because that is how bell curves work. The chances are high that the are within one number of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:29 AM
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What do you rate yourself on a scale from one to ten? Honestly. And how do you feel about men who are at that same ranking?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:27 AM
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I did not say that. If you respond, please do so with something useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:11 AM
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Those are issues that both sexes experience. What we don't understand is why women don't seem to be interested in helping themselves, and helping men at the same time. It almost feels like it's a pride or spite thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:11 AM
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Honestly, grade yourself on a scale of one to ten. Honestly. Preferably without makeup or any other augmentations. And then score him honestly. I bet that if I saw the both of you in real life, you would be at most one number away from each other. So, unfair? Sure. Yeah. Someone who is a 6 is not treating another 6 as their equal. But, life's unfair. So be it. But I guess we don't even get to talk about it, as that is threatening to you. I recently had a girl ghost me right after I mentioned tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:20 AM
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I had to double-check which subreddit I was in. Abusive and dangerous labor conditions? What is this, 1885? Union-busting? I am sure that you meant the opposite. Not union-busting. Having a union busted harms the workers. As does having open-borders, which is something that Democrats - especially Bernie Sanders - used to be against. I have no idea what you mean about "mass incarceration". Police violence, contrary to what the Left tells you, is rare. The year before George Floyd died, out of 300…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:43 PM
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Yeah. I don't believe you. You claim to be this independent woman, but I bet that you routinely confer with other women on how to feel about something. True, men are not monolithic, but they are certainly more homogenous than women. My examples of women failing at leadership up above was to show that women want to appear powerful, but don't take into consideration that they usually are not very good at it. We hear all the time about women suffering from "decision fatigue", when they finally give…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:53 PM
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Ugh. I did answer all of these. You just are not accepting my answers. Never mind. This has been a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:23 PM
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Naw. I'm not saying that some people disagree. The men's side is pretty much in agreement. I'm bringing your whole list into question, and fitting the correct parts into the dichotomy, and pointing out the incorrect assumptions that you are making. For instance, a man and woman are in a relationship, and they are doing something together. I'll use a real example. There was a viral video that went around a couple months ago that show what appears to be a husband and wife trying to mount a televis…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:37 PM
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Absolutely not. Just because a Red Pill would want to remove all of that "I'm a strong independent bitch, and I don't need no man," does not mean that what they want is an empty husk of a woman. And most of those items on that list are things that both partners do for each other in healthy relationships. Why is it suddenly so controversial to state that a woman should help her man with things that he is going through? What Red Pill is all about, is it is testing the system, and forcing women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:46 PM
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Yes, this would apply to the husbands too. It is not fair to let someone believe that there will be sex just as frequently after marriage, and then to refuse your partner. Sex and intimacy in general are very important parts of a marriage. A dead-bedroom is akin to a jail sentence. This is meant to be a deterrent. If you don't think you can fulfill that obligation, then you should realize that you shouldn't get married. We would probably have to grandfather existing marriages into no-fault divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:57 PM
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Hey, we're just taking you at your word. You did not mention anything about the guy being THE OPTION for her. Is there just one guy for you, that ever existed, bro? What happens if you just never meet that guy? In short, both people come to the agreement that they are the best that each can get. Stop with your Disney logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:05 AM
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"THE OPTION"? Singular? Do you think that there is only one man for you, out of all humans that ever existed? What happens when, say, that extremely lucky man, the one who views you as THE OPTION, the one who cannot live without you, approaches you, and you reject him? If you are going to deal with human beings here, moving around in the real world, with real world repercussions, then you are going to have to come at this very important topic with more than just, "NO I don't want to be the "good…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:39 AM
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The divorce rate among heteros is about 50 percent. Men pay greater than 90 percent of alimony, and about 85 percent of child support. And, if a judge says so, that is legally mandatory that you do it for your wife - even after your marriage ceases to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:32 PM
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If you want to do it, and are fine with it, and are otherwise being taken care of by your husband, how is that slavery? Why isn't it also considered to be slavery on the husband's part?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:29 PM
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But fathers have to ask for it. Don't be so flippant. You are purposely being dense in not admitting that women initiate a majority of divorces, and with no-fault divorces, women often divorce their husbands because they get bored, or just don't want to be married to their husband anymore. Normal and well-adjusted men are subjected to this, and have zero control over it. Men see this and react accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:06 PM
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But fathers have to ask for it. And they usually abandon their children because of unreasonable child-support demands. Look up Dave Foley, and then find me any equivalent on the female side. Don't be so flippant. You are purposely being dense in not admitting that women initiate a majority of divorces, and with no-fault divorces, women often divorce their husbands because they get bored, or just don't want to be married to their husband anymore. Those normal and well-adjusted men are subjected t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:05 PM
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But fathers have to ask for it. Don't be so flippant. You are purposely being dense in not admitting that women initiate a majority of divorces, and with no-fault divorces, women often divorce their husbands because they get bored, or just don't want to be married to their husband anymore. Those normal and well-adjusted men are subjected to this, and have zero control over it. Men see this and react accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:03 PM
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A lie. Hardly. Look up how Dave Foley was treated by the Canadian government after his wife absconded away with their children. And yet, the mother is automatically awarded custody in a vast majority of cases. Often, the father has to fight just to get 50 percent custody. The only times it is awarded fully to the father is pretty much if the mother is a proven addict of some sort, or in prison, or dead. Therefore, then the man owing child-support is usually an automatic and guaranteed thing. So,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:40 PM
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And yet, the mother is automatically awarded custody in a vast majority of cases. Often, the father has to fight just to get 50 percent custody - of the child YOU MADE (your words). The only times it is awarded fully to the father is pretty much if the mother is a proven addict of some sort, or in prison, or dead. Therefore, then the man owing child-support is usually an automatic and guaranteed thing. So, don't act like this is a "both sides" thing. It is not. And with no-fault divorces, the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:37 PM
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Yet a man's legal obligations and expectations are still owed and legally enforced after the marriage is over. But a woman's are not? You cannot possibly be this hypocritical, or dense to think that this is fair, or that men are willing any longer to participate in such an establishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:32 PM
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Legally expected is a thing. Give me a source that defines marriage that states that sex is not expected in the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:27 PM
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However, a husband is legally expected to support their wife any way possible. Abandonment laws, alimony, and child support exist. If the wife decides to terminate the marriage, she no longer is legally expected to give the man affection or sex, but he is still legally obligated to continue to support her financially - if demanded - after the marriage is over. A man's responsibility in a marriage extends past the point of the marriage no longer existing. But, you are saying that the wife's expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:21 PM
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Lack of intimacy is a common reason for divorce. And a marriage and divorce are legally-binding contracts. So, yeah, sex is owed. If it was promised beforehand, then it is owed afterwards. If the woman is not willing to do that, then they should not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:37 PM
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Marriage doesn't guarantee sex? I wonder why something like 80 percent of men are opting out of relationships. You should want to have sex with your husband. Period. And, if you had a lot of sex while you were dating, and a lot of sex on your honeymoon, but then the sex trailed off after that, then you are guilty of tricking me into a contract where you benefit, and I don't. And you prove that by saying that men are paying for steak, when the woman is actually just ramen. And then you promote th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:35 PM
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"But I want him to love me for my brain!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:48 AM

For agreeing to marry the man. Sheesh. You take all choice and responsibility and accountability away from the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:05 PM

Lol. Any way to remove accountability from women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:30 AM

Women would be protected more, so more police patrolling around, and more serious punishments for sexual assaults. We could also expect the government try to minimize single-mothers, and promote nuclear families. So, we can see less welfare. Tax breaks for married couples. Maybe even do away with the "married but filing jointly" option. Probably outlawing no-fault divorces (the states who already have, have seen drastic reductions in their divorce rates). Probably more robust and efficient adopt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:55 AM

Okay, then let me rephrase. How much data do you get from either side of this argument, and what does that data tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:28 PM

Now that is some critical thinking right there. It's still data, though. Do you apply the same level of critical thinking to the Blue Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:50 PM

Lol. You doubt that women find 80 percent of men below average in attractiveness? You doubt that the highest abuse and divorce rates are among lesbian relationships? These facts are important facts that refute some claims from the Blue Pill community, and they are based on scientific studies. But, yeah, it's okay that if a woman cannot afford her child, she gets money from the government. But, if a man cannot afford his child, he goes to jail. Are you okay with France banning men from getting DN…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:06 PM

You doubt that women find 80 percent of men below average in attractiveness? You doubt that the highest abuse and divorce rates are among lesbian relationships? Are you okay with France banning men from getting DNA tests on their children, without permission from the woman first?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:29 PM

You mean, like, science and logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:27 PM

Those are two different groups of guys. Do you have any brothers? If so, can you tell us about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:54 PM
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A large content creator is babes dot com. They do really high-quality videos. Very popular creator. That's probably where that is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:45 PM

Is it too much to expect someone to at least be decent to me, and not assume that I am going to murder them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:08 AM

Well, it's not like they are making it up. Nor are they making a bigger deal out of it than it is. All the data coming out right now is showing that high percentages of men are dropping out of at least one section of society, a high percentage are dropping out of dating, and a high percentage have either never approached a woman, or haven't approached a woman in the past year. The frustration coming from the female side of the equation is not manufactured either. Equally higher percentages of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:30 AM

You obviously did not watch any of them. You just saw the title of the video and discounted it based only on that. These videos are just women's own testimonials - things that they post themselves - online. I'm simply listening to what they are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:49 AM

Almost all of these types of videos are just a conglomeration of women's own testimonials online. Full-length, unedited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 12:44 AM
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Lol. "Less than human". Don't be so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:08 PM

Stop believing that crap. It isn't true. It is certainly true. This is why body-count has become such a large issue for both sides, and how women are admitting to double-digit body-counts by the time they are 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:32 PM

Nowhere is the few women who are sad about not being approached anywhere Absolute bullshit. Get out more often. Women are calling it a pandemic. It's seen as part of the Male Loneliness Epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:31 PM
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The nagging and keeping her mouth shut are real problems. This gets borne out into the larger issue of a man not noticing the small details that a woman finds to be important. It means he doesn't care. He should just know. If it's important to me, it should be important to him. Then the nagging happens, with the yelling and screaming and belittling. And I see all sorts of stories about a woman spouting off some of the most hurtful stuff at their man (stuff that just plain would not be tolerated …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:23 PM

Men are berated for not approaching women, not initiating stuff, not being decisive, etc. Men usually don't act like that because we are told to respect women, and to include them in decisions. However, that generally is not realistic. When a woman is looking forward to a date, she is looking forward to the man taking her on a date. Like, literally leading her. Don't hate me for stating this generality. It's true. Don't get angry that I was able to figure something out, and also observe patterns…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:05 PM
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I do. It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:55 PM
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“He asked me if my pants — I’m wearing cargo pants — ‘Oh, are those comfortable?’” Yeah, sure.’ And he goes, ‘Alright, nice easy access.’ I go, ‘What? For on the fucking street right here?’ So he starts referencing sex and stuff,” she said. If I don't get a sexual assault charge from doing this, she would at least slap me and walk away disgusted. I might even see myself on her social media later that day. Here are the two rules for men: Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:31 PM

Well, I wouldn't say that men are struggling. Here's a big difference between men and women. Women are much more into social networks. So, when a man drops out of those social networks, that person must be struggling. Meanwhile, from the man's perspective, they just fixed a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:11 PM
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Exhibit A. Pierce Brosnan and his wife, twenty five years apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:04 PM
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What do you mean you couldn't feel anything? I ask this because I am 6" erect, measured on top. That is right at about average. When I was a teenager, the few girls that I had sex with, it was a good "fit". But, the past few women that I have had sex with, it was more like the proverbial hotdog in a hallway. So, was it a size thing? Or, was it something biological, like where nerve endings are located inside you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:12 PM

Oh, you're right. They had to "find their true self". Seriously, you ever talk to a woman before?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:28 PM

They are not "in" my life. The one I haven't spoken to in almost a decade, and the other on I see maybe a couple times a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:27 PM

No. Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:45 AM

I am divorced twice, and both followed the same pattern. So, I have some insight into this. Yes, after each divorce, I went through a sort of withdrawal where I really, really felt like I needed to fill that female void that just appeared in my life, and I did some cringey stuff out of desperation. Both marriages started out with them infatuated with me. Both marriages ended up being sexless. Both marriages I was a good, stable, and reliable husband. Both divorces were initiated by them. Honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:40 AM
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Yeah, I dunno. OP up there is talking about kinky sex within the bounds of a relationship. She uses the word "relationship" multiple times to frame the situation. The woman gets the relationship, but the man does not get the kinky sex - even though she has done it before. If men are not owed sex, kinky or not (again, not sure why this is such a controversial thing to say) then she is also not owed that relationship from which she is speaking from. I'm not into kinky sex myself, but I was denied …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:53 PM
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Because men don't owe women relationships, just like how women don't owe men sex, kinky or not. Is there an issue with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:16 PM
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Correct. Men do not owe women a relationship, nor Hot Pockets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:15 PM
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I thought we were just making a list of things that people don't owe other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:19 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:39 PM
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Men don't owe women relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:01 PM

Him giving “his best” to another woman before is irrelevant. How does that sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:41 PM

Also, you should try to figure out why women are attracted to those assholes and players. In both cases, the man makes the woman feel special. Good guys will open the door for the woman, but the assholes and players are carrying the woman through the door. Also, yes, they find them fun. But, that is because the woman herself will not be responsible for any bad results of their actions, and the guy probably doesn't care who gets hurt anyway. A good guy would naturally avoid risky situations, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:07 PM

I can blame both men and women only so far. I watch a lot of Manosphere content, and the one thing that I vehemently disagree with is when the host says that women should have picked better. Seriously? Psychopaths are extremely good at hiding their true self for long spans of time, and then even spinning the bad outcome in their favor. I don't blame those women anymore than I blame the man whose wife divorces him, accuses him of neglect and abuse, so he loses his children, and she also takes all…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:03 PM
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This "criticism" is mostly just women trying to shame men for not putting up with their antics anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:22 PM
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Most men are done with the days of getting the answer, "Fine!", or, "You should just know". Done are the days of shit tests, ultimatums, and stupid questions. Done. It is not defensive to choose to not partake in that anymore. And, no, "improving" ourselves doesn't suddenly mean being willing to put up with that bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:02 PM
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Let's talk about these "patterns". Men are overwhelmingly both the perpetrator and victim of violence. Violence against women is miniscule compared to that. But, you know, men deserve to be criticized for that, apparently. Let's make sure to keep the women in mind, you know. (How to make some men resort less to violence is a societal issue for another day. I have some controversial opinions about that. But, moving on.) Here are some other patterns. Women initiate divorce 70 percent of the time. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:49 PM
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Naw. I'm not a woman, but I am not able to send you friend request anyway. 😞 But, if you want to get back into DayZ, I have a welcoming community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:43 PM
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Ha! One of the gaming servers that I run is for DayZ - my favorite PC game of all time - and there is a Discord attached to it. We hangout in the Discord and game together. Occasionally, a girl will come in, and if one of the younger fellas start acting all creepy towards her, me and all of us older 30+ men just come down hard on that kid. I mean, with like a vengeance. Like, we just berate him with "yo mama" jokes, incest jokes, small dick jokes. We interrupt him, and talk over him. We just moc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:32 PM
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Agreed. I'm older now, and I run some gaming events that are populated mostly by teenage boys and young men. They sometimes bring up the subject of women. I tell them that if a girl is talking to you, when she absolutely does not have to, then she likes you. Otherwise, go about your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:33 PM
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Yes. Get back in the trenches, men. The women need you to show up so that they can reject you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:47 AM
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Jeebus. Just being in a relationship with someone who you weren't attracted to gave you PTSD. Yeah, I can see why women find 80 percent of men unattractive. And that's the whole point. Both can be true at the same time. Men have no problem finding a wide variety and berth of women attractive in all sorts of ways. But the reverse is not true. I'm not sure what happened to the female sex, but they need to find a way to act human again. So, who are you attracted to, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:10 AM
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I have never cheated, and I know of very few men in my extended family and friends who have cheated. There is also evidence that women cheat just as much, if not more than men. The closest that I came to cheating on someone was my girlfriend in high school. She was very nonchalant with me. I thought that she didn't like me that much, and I thought that the relationship was about to end. Even then I didn't even cheat. I just got close to another girl. My relationship with my girlfriend did not en…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:17 PM

Yeah. That's called "hoeflation". You have to pay more, but get less woman. The virginity part is not realistic. They use it to drive a point home. The point being that the women today are nowhere near virgins, and haven't been for a long time. So, just being within the ballpark of being a virgin would be good enough. Yes, a woman's sexual past matters. If she has children from those past sexual encounters, then were are the fathers? And how many fathers are we talking about? And is your life go…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:25 AM
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Ha! You know, how I treat women now is that I see them and treat them as any other person. But even having that view brings angst from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:12 PM
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I started liking girls in elementary school. I was also a really cute kid. So, you would think that it would be easy, then, right? I liked them. Some of them liked me. Everything is just going to work. Nope. While I was trying to figure out - at that young age - how to even approach and talk to girls, and then worrying about dating at 14 years old, I witnessed, and was subject to, all of the manufactured drama that seemed to just spontaneously conjure out of nowhere. I just liked some girls. Som…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:21 PM
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"Survival" in the high society sense. They are going to have large amounts of student debt, and living in a metropolitan city is expensive as it is. In order to support their lifestyle and image, and because men with resources are attractive, they will gladly choose to share one high-value man, rather than have one of the small rural city men all to themselves. Being associated with these high-value men have far more benefits than drawbacks, like exposure, support, endorsement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:49 AM
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tl;dr: The sparsely populated areas of America will become abandoned. Populations will center around the big cities and small cities, but they will sprawl. Chivalry will truly be dead. A whole new set of social queues and mores will establish themselves. In the big cities, the men will have harems, which everyone is okay with. In the small cities, the women will have their choice of men. This will leave a lot of men leftover, so you will see male-centered activities make a surge. Survivalism wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:30 AM
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Fun fact. The Neil Diamond song "Cracklin' Rose" is about a cheap wine. Way up north somewhere, Alaska maybe, there is this area where the men outnumber the women something like ten to one. So, only the best men had a woman. The other nine were shit out of luck. So, they would spend their weekends finding solace in that bottle of Cracklin' Rose. Anyway, the human race will always survive. Even if nuclear winter happens, as The Architect said, there are levels of survival we are willing to accept…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:13 AM
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Certainly not. You are talking about Red Pillers like me who are rude and gaslighting you. You claim that it is only because of a difference of opinions. So, to set a baseline for us to converse from, can you define what a "woman" is? Just to be open with you, I'll divulge that a very big reason Red Pillers are "rude" is because we are done putting up with your very unscientific claims, which are bolstered by political ideologies, which are not at all rooting in reality. Frankly, that is exhaust…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:43 PM
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Naw. Your "opinions" are often wrong. Let's start here. Can you define what a "woman" is? Just to set a baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:38 PM
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Synonyms to the word "monologue"? Soliloquy. Manifesto. Diatribe. Just off the top of my head. But, I don't understand your post. These are all synonyms to the word "monologue", so what is there to disagree about? Are you looking for something else here? Am I one of those usernames that you recognize?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:05 AM
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You are right. When someone says that most successful men are misogynist (and maybe that that is why they are successful - how they treat people), they are confusing two things. The first thing is, you do have men that are just plain angry at the world. They have unrealistic expectations. They don't adapt well. Their perception of reality is quite different than actual reality. This makes them cranky, irate, and violent towards all of the people around them - including women. Especially women, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:54 PM
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The only things that I want in a woman is for her to not be fat, and not be mean. That's it. I don't know how rare of a man that I am, but I know myself very, very well. But, you have a couple different concepts colliding up there in your post. The first is that men always love to build stuff and accomplish stuff. This is something that I have never heard any woman ever acknowledge out loud. Instead, they make up all this pop-science about how we're intimidated by strong women, and something els…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:27 PM
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Okay. Now bounce that information off the data that shows that women find 80 percent of all men to be unattractive, and you get right back to my premise that most men don't see the reward outweighing the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:51 PM
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I do get my information from many different locations on the internet, yes. And, I can tell you, that women making testimonial videos complaining about men not approaching them, and literally saying the exact phrase, "Where have all the good men gone?" is extremely common at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:45 PM
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Whoa. The hell? Men are not at all more than likely going to lash out at her. You just made this bullshit up. And, ridiculous relationship expectations? My personal expectations (or standards, as women say) are don't be fat and don't be mean. That's it. There are two Venn Diagram circles. One is of women who have a high body count and low morals and low discipline, and the other is women who expect a high-value man. Those circles almost completely overlap each other. Also, the latest relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:42 PM
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It's women who are trying to convince men (or, rather, trying to shame men by calling them gay and intimidated) to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:14 PM
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Baby-trapped. No-fault-divorced. These will ruin a man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:13 PM
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We understand that, and we are not. The point is that we are then accused of being gay or intimidated for choosing to not participate. Is that because a good portion of women just don't believe men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:12 PM
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You're getting it backwards. What we are seeing is record numbers of men dropping out of different portions of society - including dating - because they don't want to participate. So, the anger is coming from the women who are not being approached by men anymore - not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:09 PM
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Well, that is the problem. Women are asking, "Where have all the good men gone?" Meanwhile, those men are hard to find because they have removed themselves from the dating pool, as you mentioned. Then, when questioned about this, men are accused of either being gay or intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:56 PM
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Yeah, I don't think you understand. The successful man has a lot to lose. Therefore, risk, like being baby-trapped or no-fault-divorced, is definitely something that they take into consideration. Why do you think it's the broke, multiple baby-mamas, and confident assholes that usually approach and get the women? Because they don't have anything they consider valuable enough to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:54 PM
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I guess then that you don't understand when men say that the risk is not worth the reward. You didn't mention any of the possible risks that men are considering in their heads, and you also didn't address the reaction from women who then either call us gay or claim that we are intimidated by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:51 PM
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But we're not really seeing the first post being from a man who says any of the stuff that you mention above. What we are seeing are testimonials from women who first volunteer the question, "Where are all the good men?" Men will answer that question, and then women will then respond with, "Are you intimidated?" So, we're not even supposed to answer general questions from women anymore? Do you think that is because we are intimidated by you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:47 PM
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Really? Just one woman? Is that an accurate way to describe how most drunk women act?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:03 PM
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I'll use a real-life example. I watch a lot of true-crime stuff. I recently saw an episode about a woman who went missing and has never been seen again. It goes like this. Single mother in her 30s. It happens to be St. Patrick's Day, several years ago, and she has plans to go out with her sister and some other girls. The child is taken care of. They go out. They go to the local loud bar. They get drunk. They are seen drunk-dancing. After a few hours, some of the girls want to leave, and it's goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:33 PM
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Did the woman choose to have sex, or did someone force her? That is not a made up part of your hypothetical situation, it's the most important part, and your post is framed as if it is the man's fault either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:41 AM
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Ugh. Everything about your posts and my posts were made-up, but likely and common, hypothetical situations. The difference is that your post posits that this is somehow the fault of men, when it is her who is choosing to act that way. It's her fault. Just admit it. And, if you truly are implying that these men are making her have sex against her will, then that is rape, and I don't think you mean to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:20 AM
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And my conclusion still stands: It's her own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:06 AM
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My argument is that your treatise above is way overly-complicated. Accurate, but complicated. What you detail up there is a very realistic course of events, that I am sure happens to a lot of women. My point is that it doesn't have to. For instance, Alex. It wasn't Alex's actions that devalued her. It was her own actions that devalued herself. Alex probably was never agreeable with an exclusive relationship with her, and maybe even said so up front. Yet, she pursued it, even though she was obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:25 AM
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Naw. What you are missing is where the two contradictions meet in the middle. Find someone to have sex with, and have a lot of sex with them. But, the disconnect that we are seeing is being caused by hoeflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:55 AM
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Blah blah blah. How attractive are you, compared to other people. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:18 PM
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First, the number is subjective. Second, if it's not obvious (it should be) then run a selfie through a sex-face-swap app. That will give you a good indication.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:49 PM
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What is unfair is that men are looking for their numerical equal, while women are looking for someone numerically higher than them. That is a broken system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:51 PM
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Uh, these are not just "gender roles". They are gender realities. To think that these qualities are not true of each sex is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:30 PM
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Because they don't share my core values. That's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:46 PM
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Ugh. Let me simplify it for you. I don't know a single man who wants what you describe above. Ever. In my entire life. It's not true. And moving to a theocracy is not a logical extension of your imagined night-sweats.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:12 PM
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You are not oppressed. The patriarchy benefits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:04 PM
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Women having reproductive freedom, education, and jobs upsets them, they want women in their house, doing their housework and raising their children. Please find a way to mature past this thinking. It wasn't in style even when it was in style. It's just simply not true, and it is obviously the end result of years of Feminists instilling the "drunk abusive husband" boogeyman into you. First, no one has a right to vote. It's just not a right. At all. Period. Not men. Not women. No matter how much …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:34 AM
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It totally should be the norm. It is women who mainly desire and want marriage. It's a life goal that most of them work towards most of their lives, it's something that most of them think about almost daily, and it is a big deal if they never end up getting proposed to. And, about the animal kingdom, there are many, many species where the male and female counterparts are drastically different (the angler fish), and where the male is the more colorful of the sexes (peacock).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:58 PM
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You: It matters Also you: "I never said "it matters," The title of this thread: Women should not be taken seriously and there is a reason for it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:00 PM
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Women do not trust other women. So, then there is no reason that I should trust them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:54 PM
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Because she said so, obviously!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:53 PM
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The law is lenient in all ways. There is a burden of proof and a reasonable doubt involved. That is why we have a whole court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:05 PM
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"purposely inducing pain on her"? It's not torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:02 PM
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As a famous comedian said, "A man doesn't get kicked in the balls, and then a couple years later ask to be kicked in the balls again".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:01 PM

Sex between different people is not able to be equated to financial value or transactions. Weird analogy. Hun. Honey. Oh, boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:11 PM

You seem to be taking this very seriously and literally, so I have to say that I have no idea what kind of kinky sex some guy is talking about. But, if you enjoyed it before, and you like this guy, why would you have a problem with doing it with him? Or, is it that it then might be expected of you, and you have a problem with that? Can you get over that? As an attachment onto your main post here, one of the most toxic things that a woman can do is let other men have sex with them almost immediat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:41 PM

I've seen plenty of videos where challenges are set up between body-builders and your typical fat union worker. The fat union worker wins every time. Opening a jar or can. Jumping over something. Running. Climbing. I myself can relate. I was 5'9" and 130 pounds while I was in the Marine Corps. That is skinny. I was also strong and dexterous. I just could not put on any weight. Despite my strength, I got pushed around very easily. I had to use leverage and martial arts moves, or I could easily be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:33 PM
1

I still disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:10 PM
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No. I would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:13 PM
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Those standards of mine are not reasonable, especially since women also hold those same standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:06 PM
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Look, my standards are so low in women today, that they are "don't be fat, and don't be mean". Women also do not like fat men, and some don't like single-fathers because the child takes attention away from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:53 PM
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I concur. Vagina is much less important to me now than it was, say, ten years ago. It's like, when you kick a bad habit, some times passes, and then you look back and wonder what you even saw in it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:18 AM
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Her: "Take this way to the store." Me: "Naw. There's construction." Her: "No there's not. Take that way." Me: "Yes, there is. No, I'm not going to." Her: "YOU NEVER RESPECT ME!" Stuck in construction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:03 PM
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"Do two women trust each other? No" - on what planet do you live? Women are about 3.5 billion, and there are friends among those. Saying that no woman can trust another is just misogyny I said "trust". Not "friends". Big difference, especially with women. I guarantee that you have been friends with a woman who you did not trust. That does not exist for men. "But, two men do trust each other." - you don't know anything about your life, like men trust each other while not knowing that the guy got …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:29 PM
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Do two women trust each other? No. Women are deceptive towards each other. So, that is a main reason that men should not trust women either. But, two men do trust each other. If two men trust each other, than a woman can also trust a man. "I KNEW A GUY WHO COULDNT BE TRUSTED...." Yeah, don't care about exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:42 PM
0

You have to dare the person four times before you can relax on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:45 PM
0

We only know this to be true because women have told us that it is true. It was a surprise to us too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:05 PM
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No. You are missing the whole point. The only time most men receive affection is during sex. Since that is the case, then men want to have sex as often as possible. Women are very afraid of letting a man give them a massage, or a hug. And holding hands gets sweaty. And cuddling gets too warm or uncomfortable. With just a little bit of affection, the sex thing mostly goes away. But, we see women who are not willing to do that. And with the lists of the ridiculously high standards, and with the Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:03 PM
1

So, the woman is just automatically right, and the man is just automatically wrong. Why are you so dismissive of what the man wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:56 PM
1

But do you enjoy hanging out with that person during sex, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:03 PM
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The whole reason I went this way in the conversation is because a lot of women are both. They will make the good guy wait, but they will have sex with the hot guy very quickly. I have seen many of the self-reported testimonials of this happening. Sometimes having sex with the hot guy is that woman's only reason for being with him - which is why women then say that men are trash, because that hot guy is wanted by a lot of women to have sex with them. And he does. The worse part is what we call an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:01 PM
1

But you didn't reject all of them. Why did you not reject the hot guys that you did not reject?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:49 PM
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Men are expected to take women out on dates, but women are not expected to have sex with those men. This is after all of the effort that I listed above. And, when sex does happen, the labor is mostly on the man then, too, and the woman better have an orgasm. Can you tell me when this benefits the man, like, at all? I had a friend, who was a girl, and she shared her sex life with me. She did go through men quickly. Despite that, there was chemistry between the two of us. I would consider starting…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:09 PM
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Because you are married. Oh, good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:45 PM
2

Met and heard about. I have some stories. But, we also watch your TikToks. Are those women lying in those TikToks? Young men who idolize women, and yearn to be in a relationship with one, are often unpleasantly surprised to see how women act and talk about men in those TikToks, when they think that men are not watching. This is a major reason young men are just plain staying away from women now, more than ever. Women are seen as dangerous. And, for some reason, women feel the need to broadcast t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:32 PM
-2

You would turn away a guy who you think is hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:12 PM
1

No. It's that women (at least today, in the west) have a very overly-complicated, contradictory, and counterproductive relationship with sex. They have all sorts of standards for the guy that they will date, but they will have sex almost immediately with a guy that they think is hot. They will make that guy who they want to have a relationship with wait for sex, but they will readily give it up for that guy that all the other woman also think is hot, if he picks her. Women dress up provocatively…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:06 PM
0

And yet, here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:17 PM
0

My standards are "not fat and doesn't hate me".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:13 PM
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You are missing the forest for the trees. He became a drug using angry loser because people earlier in his life did not give him any allowance with his social eccentricities. In a woman, that would be ignored, and today she would be something like a tomboy who just never really dated, but has a lot of student debt because she achieved higher degrees. You know - a strong and independent woman who don't need no man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:11 PM
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A woman can always count on some man coming to save her as long as shes not butt ugly and even then. Then he would be expected to save her, or that guy is a creep incel red pill loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:07 PM
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Did you say, "tall"? Seriously, though. How old is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:03 PM
3

So, what kind of relationship does he have with women overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:43 PM
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Your timing is impeccable. You are going to want to watch one of the most recent Joe Rogan episodes where he has Rachel Wilson (not her insufferable husband Andrew) on the podcast. She pretty much lays out the whole thing, and more, with sources and citations. People don't like to hear this, but no one in America has a right to vote. The Constitution never grants that. The Amendments only state reasons why someone can be denied the ability to vote. It's always been up to the state to handle thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:04 PM
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I just realized that you are the OP of this thread, this thread telling men to not pay for the first few dates. This thread in which we are talking about bad outcomes for men who did not pay in those situations. The problem is that you are assuming that this happens in a vacuum, and your hypocrisy is thick. You are just plain being naive if you think that there are not armies of women who proclaim online that men should pay for the dates (and often more, like the babysitter). You are just naive …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:53 PM
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You will if she likes you Ah, yes. I forgot the two rules for men. One, be attractive. Two, don't be unattractive. So? Who cares? Psychopath. You think that public humiliation is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:54 PM
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Men get vitriolic on the topic of sex. That's why incels have such a bad reputation. That's why most sex crimes are by men. So women who complain about 50/50 are equivalent to incels. Got it. In terms of money, what's the problem? She paid for everyone. Of course you are missing the point. The guy just didn't want to pay $3 for a slice of cheese. She took that as a reason to make it all about money, pay the full bill, and then announce it on social media, humiliating the man. Over a slice of che…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:51 PM
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Horrible solution. Just look up the absolute vitriol from women about the whole 50/50 topic, or the dreaded "coffee date". The man will never get a second date - and the first date might end prematurely. There is also a risk of the man being put on blast. Remember the gal who abandoned a guy mid-date a couple years ago, and put him on blast, because he chose not to have a slice of cheese on his burger, because it cost an extra $3? Yeah. Like that. He got up to use the restroom. While he was gone…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:17 PM
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It's not specifically misjudging someone's character. That is just an example. But, woman are so fragile, that any pointing out of any flaw or underperformance of theirs hurts their feelings. That is why women routinely hype each other up, which is delusional, which leads to disappointment when reality visits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:20 AM
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Well, ignorance is bliss, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:21 AM
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The guy(s). Or, if the guys left on their own, then just admitting that she has a horrible judge of character. I once told a woman who I was in a relationship with - who claimed to be a great judge of character - that she had a horrible judge of character, and then I gave several examples. She got quite angry with me. I see that taking accountability and apologizing really are foreign subjects here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:18 AM
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I said your car. And if you can't see clearly, don't back up at all until you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:02 PM
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Wha? To be honest, I was having trouble understanding you from the beginning. Now I'm just lost. Won't be responding to you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:45 PM
2

Oh, the polite "sorry"? Yeah, not the same thing here. Side-swiping your car against a concrete railing. "But I just couldn't see the pillar!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:44 PM
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Sure it is. And then complaining about her situation, and not apologizing for her portion of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:25 PM
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No. Just hers. It's rare. As example of that, this seems to be a foreign concept to a lot of people in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:25 PM
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Would it be so bad for her to apologize for the portions that were her fault? And if she did something nefarious, like baby-trap the guy, then refuse and child support from him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:23 PM
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Are women typically willing to admit fault in situations like this (or admit fault at all), or are they more likely to frame it as excuses, like you did above?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:31 PM
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First, it happened repeatedly. Not once. Not twice. Three times. She took accountability neither of those times. With something as important as children, you would think that she would put a bit more thought into it. But, at the same time, why aren't the guys there anymore? Are they ne'er do wells and just ran away? Prison? Did she let them impregnate her because she finds bad boys sexy? Or, once the child was born, did she become unreasonable, cranky, and moody, and push the guy away? This happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:23 PM
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Oh, that I agree with you wholeheartedly on. I watch a lot of relationship content. It is usually in the form of a woman's TikTok, or a man critiquing that woman's TikTok. That is what the available content seems to be. Anyway, I disagree with that so much, and I see it so often, that that specific thing makes me angry. And, these are with content creators who I watch almost every day. I will always disagree with them on that topic. The most that I've seen them blame a man is if he takes respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:20 PM
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It's also about being upset at the consequences of your own actions, and willing to accept them. I would be willing to bet that you, at least once, took something out on your man, when it wasn't his fault - and was most likely your fault. That is not taking accountability. That is not a normal behavior from an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:06 PM
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You are not willing to answer it? So, you are refusing to take accountability here. Okay. the accountability is being surprised by the results of their own actions. But, also doing those actions repeatedly, and still being surprised by the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:03 PM
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Sure it is. Not doing them repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:58 PM
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Sorry. Not doing them repeatedly. But, that's not the only way. What are some ways that a woman could take accountability for the above situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:54 PM
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No. It's making bad decisions, repeatedly. Like, right now. You are being repeatedly combative, and taking no responsibility or accountability, and debating about what "taking accountability" means in your own thread about accountability. Stop it. Okay, let's flip the script. What are some ways you feel are appropriate ways to take accountability for the above common situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:53 PM
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Not do them in the first place, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:47 PM
0

Being a single-mother with three kids, from three different men. Hitting a man, and then being surprised or offended when the man hits you back. Racking up lots of debt from college and supporting the lifestyle that you think you deserve, only to find a guy who will marry you, so now that debt also becomes his problem. Breaking up with good men because of "Instagram standards", and then regretting it. Yelling about the wage gap, and not being willing to listen to a man explain to you how that do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:42 PM
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It's bullying. If you allude to someone being Hitler or a Nazi, that is an attempt to silence them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:52 AM
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The hyperbole is the invoking of Hitler and Nazis in an attempt to make analogies here, or bully people into silence - about romantic relationships. That hyperbole alone proves his point that, quote, "if you bring this up on Reddit, it will be met with extreme hostility". There is extreme hostility here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:16 AM
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I think the amount of hatred, and the number of times Hitler and Nazis were invoked during these replies - in a subreddit and thread concerning relationships - proves OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:49 AM
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Yes. For what.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:00 PM
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It's true, though. There was an AITA or AIO thread here on Reddit a few years ago from a guy who saved up a lot of money and bought his girlfriend an extremely nice engagement ring. To make sure that it was the best possible quality, he had the diamond made - which is more expensive. The girlfriend loved it, and he bragged about how it had it made specifically for her. She immediately soured on the ring - because some child slave had not dug it out of a mine - and he noticed that she just plain …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:48 PM
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It sounds like you don't enjoy it, then. You would do it out of necessity for...what.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:55 PM
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Do you eat to just shove food in your mouth? No. You eat for sustenance for survival, because hunger pains hurt, and because the taste brings you pleasure. Now, do the same with going out on a date with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:52 PM
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Expect something in return? Absolutely not. It’s incredulous that guys make such a big deal of the “effort”. Of course not. Why would anyone expect to get anything from giving all of the effort? How ridiculous of them! The effort is not a big deal when you are not the one that is expected to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:48 PM

Yeah. Fine. The phrase "peer-review" is garbage, and carries no weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:23 PM
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On the flip side, if women didn't exist, men would have very little need for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:12 PM

Here you go. Oh, wait. That is from when some reporters took passages of Mein Kampf, and replaced words like "Jew" with words like "white male", and it was peer-reviewed and published in a lot of publications.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:46 PM
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So, within the set of men that you would have sex with, there is space around the men that you would have a relationship with. So, there are men that you would have sex with, but not have a relationship with. That's what this topic focuses on. A man only receives affection during intimacy. So, to say that other men got intimacy and affection from you for just kind of being attractive and in the vicinity, yet the other have to work for it and "earn" it (ugh, yuck), and knowing that it will probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:28 PM
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Naw. I don't agree at all. I think it's the other way around. These men who aren't getting laid are part of the bottom 80 percent. So, with that majority, it shows that the men are right, and women are wrong. As far as the evolution part, no, it is not evolutionarily beneficial for a woman to procreate with a toxic, dangerous, self-centered man who uses people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:40 PM
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And this is a comedy special?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:00 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. The data has repeatedly shown that men are very realistic in how they view their own looks, and the looks of women. Yes, men will sometimes try to attain a woman who is more attractive than himself, but it isn't nearly as much as the 80 percent of women who go after only the top 20 percent of men - and a 6 man will typically not find a 9 or 10 woman attractive. After 8, the potential of the woman being a pain in the ass goes up significantly. A 6 man will look for roughly a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:12 PM
1

In romantic relationships between men and women, there is stuff that both sides want to give to the relationship, and there are things that each person receives from a relationship that rewards them. Those are healthy relationships. One major cognitive dissonance in today's romantic relationships between women and men is the woman's role in a relationship. Yes. I'm going there. From a man's perspective, we still want the few simple things that men have always wanted. (As an aside, the male lonel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:06 PM
1

You seem to think that "hot" equates to "attractive". Look up how often women say that they get hit on when they didn't do their hair, have no makeup on, and are wearing sweatpants. The fact is that when women put on makeup, they all put it on the same way, so they all end up looking the same. Men have been telling women that they do not like makeup, or any alterations to a woman's body. I have no idea why women do not believe them. Also, attractiveness is different between the two sexes - just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:51 PM
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Naw, you'll just be paying the single-mother welfare instead, like you already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:13 PM
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Elon Musk: Richest man in the world. Something like three different baby mommas and ten children. Can't hold onto a woman, and some of his past women hate him. I don't think many of them are on speaking terms with each other. Jeff Bezos: Second richest man in the world. Divorced. Remarried single-mother. Bill Gates: Once was the world's richest man in the world for a long time. Divorced. Alone. Donald Trump: Twice President of the United States of America. Billionaire. Two ex-wives. Children wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:03 PM
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Absolutely incorrect. We can roll the graphs back out showing how men's bell curve in rating women's attractiveness is a nice uniform wave right in the middle. While women's is lopsided way to the left, showing that the average women finds 80 percent of men unattractive. Men are always looking for their equal in a woman. It's women who strive for higher. This is proven by the data that shows that only the top 20 percent of men get attention from 80 percent of women, as well as the previous graph…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:41 PM
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A very small percentage of women find him sexy while he's building a PC. A very large percentage of women find him sexy when he is on the red carpet with a tuxedo on, and brushing back his luxurious sexy hair. It's not about the PC building. It's that, take the toxicity out of Henry Cavill, and he's no longer sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:33 PM
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adaptability is one of the key parts of our survival In this world, it is no longer necessary to be a big strong aggressive hunter in order to survive long enough to procreate - and that behavior is also now labelled as being "toxic". In today's world, being good with numbers, problem solving, and having modern day skills are the best qualifications for survival. But, it's the big strong aggressive hunters that women still crave. We claim that something that is good for our society is "moral", a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:14 PM

Some context here. Iliza Schlessinger used to be extremely funny. Like, Dave Attell funny. But, she did not cope well to how a relationship (engagement?) ended about 6 or 7 years ago. She went on Joe Rogan shortly after, and Joe brought it up in conversation. Apparently, it was just a normal breakup, but they had been dating a while, and she thought it was leading to marriage, but he ended it. She then went on a Hoe Phase down to the Caribbean (?) where she let several men bang her. She posted p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:00 PM

Yes. A whole pile of things equivalent to not taking a clean sippy-cup out of a clean dishwasher.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:03 PM

A lot of what you listed that moms “stress themselves out” over, is not in fact optional. School pickups and drop offs, doctor and dental appointments, meeting with teachers, meals for the kids, homework help, none of that is something you can just skip and still be a good parent. I'm not saying skip these things. What I'm saying is that these things are not stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:51 PM

Both can be true. Numbers could be low, but percentages high. This is all known data that we've hashed-out here many times before. Among divorces, the woman initiates it 70 percent of the time. Among divorces involving a woman who has a college degree, the woman initiates it 90 percent of the time. To go further, rounding numbers, a hetero couple have about a 50 percent chance of getting divorced. Two married gay men have about a 25 percent chance of getting divorced. Two married lesbians have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 12:39 PM
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Abandon? Hardly. More like held for ransom. By default, if the mother is unmarried when she gives birth, she automatically gets full custody. Even if she is married, the courts side with the mother a vast, vast majority of the time. It's then up to the father to spend tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees just to maybe be able to sometimes see his child. And that's only if the mother is reasonable to deal with. I've also seen court cases where the mother gives the father an ultimatum. If he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:09 PM
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In both cases, they were just walking through the suburb, to go to the store or to a friend's house. One was hit by a drunk driver. The other was just a distracted driver. Since it's the mother's mental load that keeps the children unhurt, is it the failure of the mothers in these situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:55 PM
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Women initiate 70% of divorces. 90% if she has a college degree. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:52 PM
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Is there any reason you automatically assume that the father isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:51 PM
0

That is exactly what the woman in the video was talking about. There aren't more efficient ways of doing things? Her way is the absolute best way? There is no where in her schedule that she could improve? The husband never tried to step in, but then get frozen out for "doing it wrong"? It sounds like the husband is doing what he was asked to do (only because the wife demanded to take control) - but leaving a clean sippy-cup in a clean dishwasher was just plain enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:48 PM
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Bullshit. Your father doesn't know simply because your mother took point on that issue. I bet you two probably hold that over him, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:45 PM
-10

Because 70% of the time, it's the woman who asks for the divorce. 90% if the woman is college educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:43 PM
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If women didn’t put the “unnecessary friction” onto taking care of babies and children, their would be a lot more neglected and dead children in the world. This I just don't agree with. These examples, if not exaggerated, border on abuse and neglect. And both sexes are just as responsible for abuse and neglect. The problem is that you see a broken arm as a huge problem. When I was a child, that was normal. Two of my friends got hit by cars (both survived). The father is responsible for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:43 PM
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Well, that is where making assumptions gets you in trouble. Because, I was signed up by my parents for many, many things. And, it was my father who drove us kids around the most. Then when I got old enough, I was expected to ferry myself to my responsibilities. Before I could drive it was on my bicycle or public transportation. After I could drive I did that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:38 PM
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A whole nuclear family is definitely best, yes. The children of single mothers have horrible track-records in life. Do you think that a single father, though, would neglect their child, if they had to go to the doctor? Would a single-father let their child starve? Of course not. So, how much of the problem is the mother just overriding the father all the time (maybe because the father "isn't doing it right")?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:35 PM
1

Mens' false assumption: "Women withhold sex to manipulate men" (a recent one). Female consensus was: Wrong. Women don't withhold sex, they genuinely don't want it if there's conflict with their partner. Maybe this is an anomaly, but in the FDS circles, one of their strategies is to withhold sex as a punishment and to manipulate. But, there are also hormones involved. My ex-wife went through early peri-menopause, which eliminated her hormones in her mid-40s, and the sex permanently stopped at tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:54 PM
0

That women think that men are intimidated by successful women, and that men are scared to approach women. Please stop. Men are annoyed by the typical personality of successful women, and we are not scared to approach women. Just weary or concerned. It's not a phobia. It's self-defense. In case anyone wanted me to elaborate on my first point, a woman will proudly proclaim that she has a job and pays all her bills and rent. Good job. That's bare minimum. And, on top of that, it doesn't impress us,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:46 PM

These questions don't make sense. Are you asking about our personal environments, or what we think the environment out there is like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:41 PM

Yes, because for women, this is all just a game. They enjoy testing men, and giving men ultimatums. They love trying TikTok challenges on their husbands, and then filming it and posting it online for everyone to see. They love talking to TikTok about how they never loved their husband - instead of actually talking to their husband about it. This is a game that was invented by women, and whose rules are constantly and subjectively changed. So, men just got tired of playing the game. We just refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:06 PM
1

If I was on there, I think most of the women that I had at least some sort of a relationship with would say mostly positive things about me. However, there is a reason that each relationship broke up. For instance, one woman broke up with me because we disagreed on children, and I broke up with another woman because she had an extremely foul mouth. I can see how those two instances would be twisted in an app like that to read, "Deadbeat Dad. Goody two shoes. Just make sure you don't do anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:49 PM

Useless waste of bits here, but the boredom causes the resentment. That is why I put those two words in that specific order.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:04 PM

"Potential" abuser. So, a man can lose his children just because he maybe might be capable of abuse? You just demonstrated an example of how society is anti-male. And, no. You don't just automatically #believeallwomen no matter what. We have a police and court system. What about #believeallmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:56 PM

If you looked up how many men don’t fight for custody, it matches pretty evenly with how many get no custody. Which makes sense. Obviously. But, that's if everything goes smoothly. If the couple is not married, the mother automatically gets custody. If the mother does not put the father's name on the birth certificate, then there is no fraternal parentage linked there. In those cases, the man has to spend tens of thousands of dollars just to fight to maybe see his children from time to time. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:08 PM

Probably? Alcohol is mentioned one time in that article, total, and it's simply "used to drink quite a bit". That's your argument? The Canadian Family Court System was demanding that he pay four times what he was making, or go to jail. That is not fair or equitable at all. Although, I am wrong about him not being to reenter Canada. That has since been settled, and he apparently has been working in Canada for the past decade or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:00 PM

If you actually fought for custody, you might not have to pay anything at all!...I don’t know why. I’d rather just raise my own child. Wow. So naive. Something like 90 percent of alimony is paid from the man to the woman, and something like 90 percent of the time the mother gets more than half custody of the children. And these are the courts mandating all this. It is not uncommon for a father to just plain not be able to afford to see his own children. Like I said before, when a woman cannot af…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:45 PM

If it was untrue all he had to do was go to court and prove it, Says someone who isn't aware of the situation, or had any run-ins with the Canadian Family Court System. Here's the story, at least from David's side. I don't think his ex-wife every talked about it in public, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:41 PM

No. Because there was no evidence of abuse. If you are going to have someone punished for abuse, it better have happened, and there better be evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:34 PM

Usually boredom. The wife looks at the man taking a nap or gaming, and she hates that he's not giving her attention, and not doing something productive - while she scrolls on TikTok for hours and complains to her girlfriends about him. They convince her to leave him. We are not your Entertainment Directors. You are your own person. You have to entertain yourself, just like before you were married. And don't be hypocritical about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:00 PM

You are missing the parts where she stole the children and took them to Europe. He had no idea where they were, at first. Then, she made up stories of abuse about him. The court system completely believed her, and completely punished him, for nothing. What she did was monstrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:57 PM

So she wants to divorce him, but still wants him to pay for her lifestyle afterwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:56 PM

You are missing the parts where she stole the children and took them to Europe. He had no idea where they were at, at first. Then, she made up stories of abuse about him. The court system completely believed her, and completely punished him, for nothing. Your response brings up another bias against men. Men don't deserve to have their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 03:55 PM
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David Foley, from Kids in the Hall fame, cannot return to his home country of Canada, because the moment that he does, he will be arrested and forced to pay millions of dollars in child support. If he cannot, then he will be sent to jail automatically. He hasn't seen his children in many years. Is he a deadbeat dad and husband that abandoned his family? No. Look up his story, and how his wife was just automatically believed at every step in the process, and how he was punished at every step in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:21 PM
1

"Men don't get emotional support, therefore they don't need emotional support." In truth, her removing emotional support was probably a main reason for the divorce in the first place. Her becoming bored and resentful of her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:12 PM
1

Have you ever yourself said, "I don't need a man"? Well, that is incorrect. Without a man, you would not have been able to post this thread on the internet. To further my analogy, one of the first (if not the first) programmer was a woman by the name of Ada Lovelace. There is a programming language named after her. You do need us, and we need you. Both sexes are not equal, but they are equally important. Like the yin-yang symbol of duality, you cannot have one half without also having the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:05 PM
2

Why should she give these things for free when she's getting nothing in return. Nothing in return. So, it's transactional. Got it. Giving something for "free" (I cringe thinking about putting a value on normal relationship aspects) is part of being in a relationship. I can just as easily flip it on you and ask why a man should give his things for "free", when he's getting nothing in return. Yes the "typical woman" who earns her own money and has her own job Men are expected to do this. This is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:22 PM
8

Ah, yes. Shame. Typical first attack from females. Next you'll probably accuse me of being gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:05 PM
12

Your statement pretty much proves that the typical woman today does not bring intimacy readily, enthusiastically, or willingly to a relationship. So, when the sex, love, and attention stops, so should the princess treatment. But, what if it never starts in the first place? How about days when she is acting bratty and picking fights with the man, because she is bored? No princess treatment those days?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:55 PM
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Misogynistic? So, the man has to meet all sorts of expectations, but the woman does not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:17 PM
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But, what does she bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:53 PM

The top 80 percent of women go after the top 20 percent of men, and women find 80 percent of men unattractive. If you graph that out, and press the play button, it does not turn out well. If a woman cannot afford her child, she gets money from the government. If a man cannot afford his child, he goes to jail. This is not the woman's fault, but it is the environment in which men make decisions for themselves. Women almost always think of themselves and rate themselves a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:53 PM
4

This is swinging into political stuff, but we do not have fair application of the law. Christians are arrested for praying outside of abortion clinics, because it is deemed to be a public disturbance. Parents are arrested for acting up during PTA meetings. But, Antifa can get away with burning down religious buildings because, in the words of Merrick Garland, paraphrased, "Antifa primarily does that at night, and they are hard to identify in the dark". The "Summer of Love" where we saw six month…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:32 PM
3

We actually communicate what we want a lot, and several different ways - through our actions, our body language, and what we say. We also say what we don't like. It's pretty universal, considering we are talking about billions of men. Just watch one video in the Manosphere. We want: Peace. Quiet. Things to stay the same. This is why we marry you. In order to laminate the relationship closed. Affection. Intimacy. We don't like: High-maintenance. Yes, this includes makeup and hair. Drama. You pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:01 PM
2

Paternity can also be determined by blood type. What about in the case of a father knowing his own blood type, and he also knows his child's blood type, and they find out that they could not possibly have fathered that child?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:31 PM
3

Well, that's not the case with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:21 PM
3

Nope. Didn't say that. Don't lie. It is not "rather prefer". It is "if necessary". Controversial opinion, but I think men should be encouraged to masturbate more - or at least the stigma of it removed - as it helps keep us clear-headed, calm, and happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:46 PM
3

I would be lying if I said that I never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:45 PM
5

I didn't think that we were talking about you? Were we? So, is the "masturbation talk" yet another talk that modern day couples have to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:48 PM
2

So, we are only allowed to daydream of some preapproved imaginary things then, by women. This is how a normal well-adjusted adult male's mind works on testosterone: • Try to have sex with significant other. • If that doesn't work, have sex with imaginary woman. • Repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:44 PM
4

I've seen some pretty weird boobs in my day. Plus, the boob is attached to the aforementioned surly woman. The airbrushed ones in Playboy are always very nice, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:40 PM
5

This is literally that meme where the couple are laying in bed, and the women is thinking to herself, "I bet he's thinking of other girls". We are "guilty" of it even when we aren't doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:33 PM
2

"Using your imagination is cheating on me." Jeez. Women's standards really are ridiculous these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:27 PM
4

Oooo. I disagree. And I think this is a question that men today have to pause about before they can answer. Men have to deal with the whole seducing part of it, and then probably an unenthusiastic and judgmental partner, and then the post-nut-clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:24 PM
2

Faithfulness. Is it the competition that is bothering you, even against imaginary things?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:21 PM
2

Because it's the main topic of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:09 PM
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I don't think they are trying to get around anything. I think the point is to put this belief to the test. Even if the women are imaginary, and the scenes are complete fiction? How can you compete with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:07 PM
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I mean, the guy is fulfilling his "husbandly duties", so the wife should be empathetic to that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:44 PM
6

Younger women are easier to manipulate? Men are Intimidated by older women? Younger women are just plain hotter? Nope. None of those, and it pisses me off that it's those reductions that disappointed females latch onto. It's personality. Straight-up. This includes maturity and emotional stableness. This also includes not being combative or pulling forward any trauma, and holding me accountable for what all the crappy guys did to you in your past - especially when you did not hold them accountabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:05 PM

It's a very basic important thing to do. As long as you keep conversating with them about fictitious boyfriends and husbands, the more material they have to talk to you about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:10 PM

Oh, I wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe something has changed in the self-protection training since I was younger, but both men and women were told to defect unwanted advances by holding out their stretched hand and loudly and confidently saying, "no" - hopefully with direct eye-contact. I have had to do this in the past with random people on a corner coming up to me and trying to sell me drugs or some such, and it definitely works. Someone is approaching you with some subject of conversation or pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:59 PM
3

It really does depend on the time era and place. The prominent example that comes to my mind was a scene in "Fiddler on the Roof". One of the daughters marries a local guy who is into tailoring. He is poor, and has to do it by hand, and try and grow his business. They finally save up enough money to buy a sewing machine, and when it finally arrives, they are both extremely happy and celebrating the milestone. The father, Tevya, looks at the camera and says, "They are so happy that they don't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:51 PM

Eh. I would disagree with you about them showing clear signs of wanting to harm her. Men are still expected to approach women, but sometimes the mission gets in the way of the optics for men. What she is describing above are meet-cutes, but without the "cute" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:45 PM

This reminds me of the episode of "The Office" when the older plain-looking lady was flashed by a man outside the building, and the manager had a hard time stifling his laugh about the thought of someone flashing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:42 PM

Did you say "no" to them with purpose and conviction?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:39 PM
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Oh, it wasn't me that posted it. The title was something like "AITA for walking out and leaving my wife in a theater?" I have searched for it, but Reddit's search function has always been trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:47 PM
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What about married couples where the wife has started to refuse to have sex? Did something change along the way? If so, is that fair to the man? There was an AITA not too long ago about a wife who had turned frigid on her husband, and the husband doing everything to help rekindle their intimacy. They started date nights, and she cancelled seven of the first nine. He planned a great getaway weekend for them, and had a great time. On one of the nights, he took her to a live theater production. Dur…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:48 PM
1

There is a guy on TikTok who has been assembling a list of women's "icks" in men. So, here's your answer on what men are doing wrong. All of this: https://i.imgur.com/ld2aPKl.png
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:56 PM
3

I am going to challenge this statement, and also ask for data on how many times the woman refuses to press charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:47 PM
1

I am introverted, and I can give an anecdote that has repeated itself throughout my life, in social situations, without fail. I'll be in a group setting where everyone is mostly strangers to each other. Going to a summer high school government week in a neighboring county is the first real example that comes to mind, but I will give a better one down below. At first, it is always the same. There are the one or two guys who are really active. And there are the women who want to just belong, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:43 PM
1

I have no problem with the word "should". It's not nearly as coercive as "obligated". I'm surprised that you didn't also say the phrase "wifey duties" with a sneer. And, yes, women should be okay with having sex with their men. I heard one woman (maybe here on Reddit) say that even if she's not in the mood, she always ends up enjoying it anyway - at least at the same level as getting a backrub - so she reminds herself of that. Should a man show the same amount of emotion when he doesn't get sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:24 PM
3

No. Women and men cannot be friends. They are either just acquaintances, or the gender roles naturally kick in. Example. If I am on a first date with a woman - a stranger to me - and something really bad happens, I am expected to put my life at risk in order to save hers. This would also go for a situation where me and a group of women, who are strangers, all witness something terrible happening. The women turn to me and say, "Well, aren't you going to do anything?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:36 PM
2

Well, since the Ick List on TikTok continues to grow (it's over 700 now), and a lot of them contradict each other, there's not much reason to be proactive, or even participate at all. https://i.imgur.com/ld2aPKl.png
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:31 PM
1

Keep in mind that there have been lawsuits in the past when it was found out that certain dating apps were charging men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:12 PM
1

Last I checked, that Ick List Guy on TikTok is past 700 "icks".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:10 PM
1

I talk to all women the same way as I talk to men - so I talk to all humans the same way. For those who originally went feminist, but changed their mind, I sense hopelessness in return. For those who never went feminist at all, I sense disappointment in return. For those who are feminist, I sense derision in return. I ignore all those responses. Best to not probe any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:07 PM
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Is there a reason the woman can't entertain herself? I mean, are men supposed to be women's entertainment directors? Or, is it more along the lines of him not properly scrubbing the baseboards this time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:02 PM
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Naw. Police are all about looking good by apprehending bad guys - especially bad guys that abuse women and children. If anything, the opposite of what you said is true. As far as one alpha male in power protecting another alpha male from the beta males with weapons, this is usually how that interaction goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:59 PM
12

You misspelled "douchebag" as "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:55 PM
0

Bullshit. If relationships and society have evolved, then so should women - away from the caveman mentality of which man can best defend them from saber tooth tigers, and feed them mastodon meat. Prove yourself and be worthy? Okay, let's take away all of the amenities that men have provided, like clean drinking water, internet, preserved food, because it looks like people no longer appreciate those things. As far as what do men bring to the table? So far, everything. The very fabric of society, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:32 PM

We have an entire generation of Alpha Widows that are acting like a clot on the whole system. Dude. It sucks. Yes. There is nothing morally or legally that you can do about it. So, it's tough, but you have to stop focusing on it. To counter your points up above (which were all recent Western sources), keep in mind that celibate monks in monasteries has been a thing...forever. A sheik has a concubine of 50 women. That means that 49 other men don't. Dive into your hobbies and interests. That is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:43 PM
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I've developed a revulsion to Pretty Privilege. Not a hatred, but just a revulsion. Speaking of Pretty Privilege in the work place. I work for a mid-sized company, and about a quarter of the entire company is in the building that is my "home office", as they used to say. We would have a new-hire training class every so often, and during that training class, the new-hires were given a scavenger hunt to complete. Silly stuff like, "What is the head of [X department]'s middle name?" So, they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:15 PM
1

I don't think so. After either getting rejected too many times, or being used by a 10 guy, a 6 girl will find where she should be playing, and will have to become okay with it. The main problem, though, is that we now have an entire generation of Alpha Widows that are acting like a clot on the whole relationship sphere. This just came to mind. Remember last year when Russell Brand was accused of sexual misconduct? That went away very quick. But, there were several women who voluntarily spoke up …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:42 PM
1

Naw. It goes down to women's standards are just too high. And when we say, "too high", we are not saying to *gasp* "settle". We are saying that a lot of women are unrealistic and ridiculous about it, to the point of damaging the whole system. This harkens back to that study that told both men and women that they have found someone who meets 80% of their standards in the opposite sex. The men's response was, "Seriously? Awesome!". The women's response was, "Only 80%. Yuck." If you are a 6, look f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:24 PM

Ah, yes. Women love to go right to the shaming and minimizing tactics in debates. "Are you man enough?" "Men are intimidated by me." Honey, no. We are not intimidated by you. We just don't see any reason to do what you want us to do. Anyway, back on topic. Honestly, what do you think the difference in success rate is between a man approaching a woman, and a woman approaching a man? Is the difference very small, or is it large? I just want to see where you are on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:36 PM

As a counter point, I would like it if someone more knowledgeable than myself talked about Fisher Stevens, the actor. People under 40 might not know who he is, but he is this short and ugly guy who, in entertainment circles, has the reputation of having legendary rizz and pull. For crying out loud, he strung peak Michelle Pfeiffer along for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:41 PM

Attractive men get the most opportunities. Big detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:38 PM
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