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If you look at it even farther, men are just seen as disposable and not important. Ruining a young boys life for something like this, of course! He must be an evil deviant and needs to be put away forever to protect our precious women. A girl does something like this, well she's too important to society for serious action, somehow this is the boys fault and needs to be rectified on his end. Society just does not care about men, plain and simple. We have created a narrative where men are evil, ba…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:31 PM
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If you ever find yourself actually trying to talk to a "feminist" that's throwing patriarchy around like dues-ex-ma china there was a simple trick I learned that can help curb it. Simply ask the person to define their terms and then ask them how their original definition can someone cause what they're trying to say it causes. Honestly though those types of people can double think so hard that they won't understand why they are wrong but at least it'll help your peace of mind to know they're wron…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:20 PM
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I don't understand how this was presented to make things look equal. The way the facts line up it seems pretty obvious as to what they were trying to push through, I know most people still don't acknowledge the lack of men in colleges but were those facts not presented? I guess what I'm saying is how was this presented so that the averages joe's though it was a good idea and somehow helpful toward equality and not just a way to spread someone's ideology?
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:16 PM
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oh god, you should've seen the face palm I did until I say the /s. My mind was already rearing up to rip that argument to shreds. Anyway the fact that this is presented as somehow "progressive" is beyond me. Ignorant people and ignorant ideologies, equality isn't even a factor here, it's all about faith in an ideology that's based on hate. It's sad that this didn't get laughed out of the room when it was presented.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:12 PM
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Erm, that's kind of a contradictory statement. Saying that it's not a bad thing "all things considered" and then considering the "unfounded implications" mean that it usually isn't a bad thing. Personally this just adds to the fear mongering that society puts towards all men. If this is a good thing than why isn't there a crime app for men, considering that a great deal more crime happens to men, it's obviously needed. Violent crime especially is aimed a men, women actually rarely have any probl…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:08 PM
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I get that you might know a lot of females that play video games but that really hasn't been the norm until recently. I think this post makes the mistake of singling out females as calling gamers losers because in reality it was most people that weren't part of the culture calling gamers losers. It was a "nerd" thing or whatever other label you want to give it and seen as very uncool. Similar to how things like DnD is still seen as(though even that is getting more accepted) and LARPs are definit…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 12:00 PM
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I know there was one on the day z forum, or whatever the mod for arma 2 was. It's actually pretty dumb, but not surprising though I think it's more because someone was losing at a video game and no body likes that. Though it doesn't hurt that people feel like it's perfectly acceptable to use "feminism"(mainly because a lot of "feminist theory" is set up just for these situations.) to shame men, or actually people in general.
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:33 AM
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I don't think it's about drama. Mostly people go on and on about how creepy men are or about rape culture and what not so they like to post these stories as "proof" that all men are creepy rapists instead of you know, not buying into a hateful ideology based on myths instead of reality. So yeah, mainly it's about validation, they can go there and post something and then go "SEE ALL MEN REALLY ARE RAPEY CREEPS AND I'M NOT JUST A MAN-HATING BIOGOT", it's the same thing as the lady that posted a ra…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:10 AM
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I don't think anyone cares if you believe them or not so please don't expect a citation. If I tell a story about how I jumped over my house and beat up 100 ninja warriors that came for me because my ancient home clan we great warrior poets that stole the ark of jim bob and then skateboarded down the street macking with all these hot honies only to be stop because a "feminist" shot my in the leg and yelled "take that you evil penis wielder" and after that the police came and arrested me because I…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:00 AM
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That is true, it's a slow process but a woman is more likely to be arrested for something like DV today than they were 20 years ago, that's not really saying much but it is certainly true and I can only hope that people slowly start treating people as individuals and adults and keep them accountable for their actions.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:20 AM
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Yeah, because taking a look at how your views might be incorrect is just too hard. Double think and what not just to make this make sense. It's ok, just keep that unearned smug superiority and you'll lead and happy happy life you special oppreshruned snow cunt.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:18 AM
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Oh I don't see MGTOW as giving up on hope, honestly it makes quite a bit of sense to go down that path. It's quite honestly the realist's take on what to where in I was comparing myself to the eternal optimistic that I won't end up one a shitty statistic, which quite honestly I already fit into a few. I don't know, maybe that's too depressing of a way to put but rationally and logically MGTOW makes a whole lot of sense, just at the end of the day I don't think it's for me, at least not yet.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 03:46 AM
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were excusing anyone's behavior or anything like that. I've been on /r/MR a little too long today and it's just causing my emotions to go haywire, some of this stuff is just too upsetting and going over and over, seeing examples everyday, new stuff that people are happy to pretend doesn't exist or are isolated incidents, it just messes with my head and I kind of start to rant and ramble on, but my comments wasn't directed at you, it was more of just an …
/r/MensRights11/09/13 03:27 AM
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You know what really makes me sad about that, that 13 year old boys get denied shelter at those types of shelters. Really, I constantly hear all this stuff about "but what about the children, we have to do what's best for the children." What they really mean is, we have to do what's best for the women, and that child who happens to be male has a good chance of being a violent rapist so he can go live on the streets with all the other forgotten and unwanted people. The fact that people can, with …
/r/MensRights11/09/13 03:18 AM
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The whole thing doesn't make any sense, she asked her "rapists" not to mention the party, which she had originally lied about and I feel like everyone is kind of missing that point. That's the honor code she broke which is just beyond ridiculous, "hey I'm gonna say you raped me but don't tell them I was drunk", she lies to the original investigation and said she only had two drinks, changes her story to her being an alcoholic and getting help. Her 13 seconds of sexual activity she remembers does…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:05 AM
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Well the evidence exists when you actually read into those studies, like most "feminist" studies they're very weak and fall apart under the first bit of review. "Oh here's your problem, you're comparing salaries of teachers and secretaries working 25 hours a week to rocket scientists working 70 hours weeks. Wow why is that gap only 16 cents?"
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:50 AM
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I hate when I see comments like this =(. It really makes it easier to pretend that I just know the worst people in the world and other people don't have to deal with the shit I've seen. It's just not true though, when you give people all the power and none of the responsibility, well there is a good portion of those people that are going to abuse it and we'll just excuse them for whatever reasons and make sure the world knows that the real problem is men. Awesome privilege men have. Male privile…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:47 AM
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I have to disagree but it doesn't really have to with any "gender war" or anything. The people I've seen to met in life really just seem to be out for themselves, some might come off as compassionate and empathetic but at one time or another they've really screwed people over. This goes for men as well as women, it really just seems like a human trait. Though women have a lot more power to screw a man's life over, most of the men I know have been arrested for DV at sometime or another(I'd say ma…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:44 AM
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You should read the discussion page and history page. It's full of people giving multiple cited sources against the vitriol that is on there just to be reverted back with 1 terrible source that you can't verify if it's true or not and there's no other information to corroborate what was changed. Not to mention the just blatant name calling and other bullshit, it's really sad actually. I mean it makes them look like children that can't handle the truth but the fact is the majority of people just …
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:26 AM
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Well the two citations I picked at random were both bunk. That the MRM in the united states were trying to over turn the martial rape laws so they could rape their wives, the article that it comes from(which is hardcore bias) states one group, that I can find zero information on nor can I find any information on the suit they filed but someone it's ok the portray the whole MRM by something that doesn't seem to exist because it sound shitty and some asshole wrote it? Makes sense. The other one is…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:16 AM
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Wait is that subreddit really just run by "feminists" to shame men? That's pretty shitty and sad. Defiantly doesn't speak to any need for validation at all either.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 01:01 AM
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I don't really think that's his argument and while I disagree with quite a bit of it, there are bits of truth in there. If you really don't think people get a kick out of feeling validation, well you can tell yourself whatever you'd like I suppose. I guess it's all besides the point though, public shaming of things that are usually fake is all a pretty strange thing, I think it's more craving the validation from your "peers" in the subreddit among other places. "Hey guys, remember how I was tell…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 12:59 AM
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Often it's completely fake Often it's completely fake Often it's completely fake Often it's completely fake Yeah, that's about right, it's really sad how often people feel the need to make stuff up for validation. People are strange.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 12:53 AM
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Yeah man, why wouldn't we just take things like this at face value. I mean all those studies of 1 in 6 women are raped in their life, 1 in 4 women are raped, those all turned out to be completely true and not based on complete biased shit with horribly manipulated statistics. Why would anyone be skeptical and maybe want to understand this better, the "feminist" have spoken, 1 in 4 men are rapists and that's just that. We need more posters, less people talking about false accusers, quite frankly …
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:41 PM
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I think a bigger problem, which is one most "feminist" studies have is that the definition of rape is just ridiculously loose. What's described in the title is not rape unless force or some other means were used to make her have sex against her will. Guess what, I've slept with someone when I didn't feel well and didn't want to, because they did and I wanted to make them happy. That wasn't rape. That trivialized rape. Not only that but as with most other "feminist" studies two other things happe…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:26 PM
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That's surprising to you? Man, I must've lead a really messed up life because I've heard stories from over half the women I know, and witnessed at least a dozen times where women lied to the police trying to get different things from the man they're screwing over. It's just a fact of life that police will believe anything a woman says and you really can't do much about it except get a lawyer. I really thought most men knew this, it's kind of like knowing that most women get the kids in a divorce…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:08 PM
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Of a beyond few, of such a small tiny percentile that has been blown out of proportion to such insane levels. Now I wonder what group of people have been campaigning to keep that level of fear so high? Who could it be, man I just can't put my finger on who have made everyone fear men as sexual deviants and rage filled kill machines towards women when the reality is simply that a handful of men, and women are evil and do terrible things. Who would do such a sexist, bigoted, and just morally repre…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:03 PM
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You actually are condoning her actions with statements like that, not only that but it's just excusing her behavior because she has children. Funny thing is that yes it might be hard, and I don't think anyone would pretend it's easy working and having kids but as an adult you are suppose to be responsible for taking care of yourself and children. A man would be expected to work and take care of their children, that is the very basic foundation if any father wants to see his kids so I find it str…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:58 PM
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I'm just going to point out that count "unreported" rapes is literally making up numbers. So really you're not being "generous" nor are you using "logic", you're misrepresenting yourself to try to imply that you're using facts and not just what you feel is true. So actually yeah, this is exactly the type of logic I expect from a feminist. Also, are you saying that false accusations don't matter because women actually get raped? I don't think this is a zero sum game where there can only be a winn…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:39 PM
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I really don't know what you mean. If this doesn't prove just how serious people making accusations are taken then I really don't know what does. The thousands of men in prison right now just because a woman accused them and there was zero evidence otherwise really speaks to just how serious these women are taken.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:32 PM
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It's very easy to get a confession out of someone. I doubt they afforded this man a lawyer or any kind of representation while they were questioning him. Police officers have a lot of ways to force confessions, most are highly illegal and the others are just morally wrong. I hope you never have to learn about this things first hand, but I have and frankly it's terrible. Not to mention that the cops on this case were male, and most likely believed every word the woman was saying about this man be…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:28 PM
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I think it's worse that he's a man. If it was a female homeless person, well this would be completely different. The world moves mountains to help women from all walks of like and try to understand them and what got them into whatever situation. Men on the other hand, no one gives a fuck about them. Not only that but they're often used as human bridges, letting women walk all over them in order to better themselves. Either doing it to themselves and by the force of others. As most of you all kno…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:25 PM
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You really have no idea what jail is like if that's what you think. Let alone being in prison as a sexual predator. You need to learn a little more about prisons before you talk about stuff like this. I can understand how on paper it might make sense to you, but that's such a naive point of view with such little touch in reality. I don't mean to be down on you or anything but really, there is nothing better about this man's situation being in prison than being on the street where he can receive …
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:22 PM
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Hola there. I just had a quick comment to post here. I certainly agree with certain things with what you're saying and disagree with a bit of it. I think the degree of punishment someone receives for a malicious false allegation is something that would be incredibly complex and hard to determine. I personally don't know where those lines are and while of course I think it should be severe, I think some people go a little over board with what they want to happen. That doesn't even take into accou…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:18 PM
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It lets you know that if you are a woman, it's ok to be hung up on your rape for the rest of your life. Rest assured that no one let me have even a second to be hung up on what happened to me, or even slightly go out of there way to offer me any kind of help other than a swift kick to the ass. Sorry, I know I'm just ranting but I let myself get emotional earlier over some stupid shit. It's just fucking upsetting how little society cares about people like me. How open they are in not caring and l…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 09:25 AM
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I really don't like the word extremist when talking about "feminism". At it's core it's a hateful ideology, plain and simple. Yeah there are some more extreme than other, but most mainstream "feminist" groups, the one's with power over legislation, follow the same ideology and are not only fine with letting men rot in the gutter, most of the time they actively fight for that to be the desired outcome. This is mainstream, not extremists. Yes, of course there are those who don't subscribe to "femi…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 09:12 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1cbajh/why_isnt_prison_rape_considered_rape/c9ew70x This is a really good post with sources that show what actual rape culture is, how it is a real problem, and how "feminism" has not only co-opted the term but have gone to great lengths to ignore the original problem that was brought up and completely ignore that society is completely fine with men getting raped, especially those who are incarcerated.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 09:06 AM
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Well you have to define "public" in this case. I know that sounds stupid because obviously we all know what public is. There is a difference though between what can be put on public record and what can be say, reported on the news or something like that. Completely secret trials are a scary thing I agree, but I believe there could be a way to stop news agencies from reporting names until the trial is over and just proposing the facts of a case with out names or faces, with a trial still being op…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 08:54 AM
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I know, it's just upsetting to read stuff like that. Even if it's just a troll, there is a real person behind there and I really do hope that one day they can sit down a rethink what made them act like this, but what worries me more is while they might be a troll, these are views that society as a whole just accepts and perpetuates. It really hurts sometimes thinking about, not even just from my perspective because I've done as good of a job as I can coming to terms with what's happened to me in…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 08:37 AM
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Most people here make the distinction between "feminists" who simply believe in equality between genders and "feminists" who subscribe to "feminist theory" a very bigoted anti-male ideology. Unfortunately most major women's organizations, the one's that influence legislation are the ladder type of "feminist". Also it should be pointed out that if you're using "feminist" to mean equality between genders than just about everyone here is a "feminist". Plain and simple the MRHM is just about equalit…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 08:30 AM
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This really isn't on topic or anything but I have one anecdote from dealing with CPS when I was a child. My father had beaten the shit out of me and left me with a black eye and bruises all over my face and what not so one of my friends at the time called in a complaint and what not so I was forced to deal with a lady like this. She really didn't seem all the interested in helping me and for some reason just thought I was a delinquent and did everything short of actually telling me that I deserv…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 08:23 AM
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So I guess the fact that I was raped by a woman and had to shut my mouth and just accept what was given to me because society doesn't accept that women can rape men just doesn't matter? You're right, we shouldn't even worry about stuff like this because it hasn't happened to someone like you, and since you don't really know, just fuck whatever kinds of bullshit I've had to through, that's just all irrelevant right? You fit right into that group of people that made my life miserable for years aft…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 07:42 AM
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Hey no worries, I know it's hard to tell online but I wasn't trying to "bust your balls" or anything like that. I know I can come off as harsh or condescending or just a general asshole but I don't mean too so I hope you didn't take it as such. That's what we're here for though, putting out ideas, discussing them, and modifying them when it's deemed necessary. Like I said though, while I find this whole thing super suspicious, there should still be a serious investigation to all parts of this si…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 06:49 AM
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When you have such an open definition of what rape is and can be, while giving women to proactively change consensual sex to rape after it happens, with that ability for years after the fact, than yes Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. Though I think that kind of proves Solesaver's point of Sweden having a lot of "feminists" in power there. There was a really interesting video I found online awhile back that explains this in much more detail, I'll try to find it and edit my comment with it bu…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 06:29 AM
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I don't see any reason to assume that he actually committed any crimes. He was arrested because someone accused him of rape, spend a month in jail so that he could make bond. Obviously at this point it should certainly be investigated but I find it much more interesting as to why his alleged victim would call him with a deal that would have her drop charges for money and while they didn't state in the small article that money exchanged hands before he was brutally burned to death, I find that to…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 06:24 AM
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Have you ever tried counseling or anything like that, I don't really know what it would do for you but I imagine it would be worth trying. I get that you can't help who you are attracted too and as long as you don't act out on your desires, including child pornography than you aren't really a danger to anyone but still, therapy might be something you should look into. No judgement, just saying. At least you're being honest with yourself, it would most likely be a lot worse if you choose to try t…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 06:03 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. I think a big part of the problem is that myths like this are just completely accepted by society as a whole so there just aren't many people out there to explain the reality of the situation to people, and even if there is, you are only one person compared to the thousands that have said otherwise to these people in their lifetimes. Like I said though, my friend seemed receptive to what I was saying and using her own examples I think I got some wheels turning to he…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 02:18 AM
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I really do love when "feminist" seem to not only imply that men dying for a society is a "male privilege" but that somehow having to stay at home and be protected throughout history, and treated like queens by society is just infinitely worse than men being forced into back breaking labor and wars, death over and over again through out all of history and to this day as well. It's just crazy, you know maybe it's just me but personally I don't think 90% of work place deaths is something that shou…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:54 AM
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While what you're saying is correct, not every "feminist" would be willing to deny the blatant privileges that women have in society, it isn't the usual. The woman's study class that I took was defiantly a different atmosphere and when you start studying "feminist theory" and learning about the different policies of view of major female advocacy groups than you realize that while there are some very good "feminist" that do believe in gender equality, you also realize that "feminism" is inherentl…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:48 AM
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You don't see how a middle aged woman taking advantage of a 13 year old child might cause serious problems with their mental health or other things. This doesn't take into account whether she gets pregnant or not or whether he was actually a willing participant in this affair. It's thoughts like I actually don't see what the big deal is here. That would cause a young man to to hide his rape from his family and authorities and just do what is expected and pretend like he wanted it. Anyway the big…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:31 AM
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Middle aged white woman, why oh why are they so oppressed and disadvantaged. Why can't we for once help these poor, poor people.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:17 AM
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It's sad how society feels the need to give such slanted coverage just because the alleged criminal is a woman. Not only is she not charged with rape of any kind, she gets such preferential treatment in the media it makes me slightly sick. It's only a matter of time because we start hearing the excuses, of how she was lonely, and mentally ill. Possibly abused by the boy and his father, maybe forced into having sex with a child, see she is the real victim her, she is the one that needs help and G…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:15 AM
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I actually just had a conversation with one of my female friends about this today. She brought up the usual "Well I mean if I guy gets an erection that it's obvious he wants sex" which I find just to be an insane line of thinking and threw back "Well if that's true than if a woman gets wet than she wants to have sex". It took a second for the wheels in her head to get rolling and she started saying about how it's just an involuntary reaction the body has to being fondled and touched, which I rep…
/r/MensRights07/09/13 01:06 AM
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Indeed, but I think it goes much farther than that. People should be treated as individuals and considering that everybody is a very different person and every case is a very different situations, to me, it seems like you would take all factors into account when you pass judgements on your fellow man. That gets into a lot of different problems I have with the Justice system in America but I don't have the strength to write about it at length at the moment but I should point out that even though …
/r/MensRights07/09/13 12:44 AM
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How to you reconcile "feminist" theory with your views? I know "feminism" does have some pretty specific views and tenants which I believe is what most people take issue with, I assume you've learned at least a little bit about "feminist" theory since you're defending it so whole heartily, so how do you take what is taught and what used in legislation and end up with your views about equality? I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, genuinely curious so please don't think I'm trying to be an as…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 07:28 AM
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I did indeed reply to the wrong person, I don't know why you got so angry about it though. Certainly wasn't trying to offend you, a simple "I don't think you replied to the correct person would've sufficed just fine. I would explain why I put "feminism" in quote, which has nothing to do with "no true scotsman" but I doubt very much that you'd want to listen. Anyway, at least we can agree that "feminism" is pretty shitty so there's that.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 07:28 AM
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Couldn't this fall under info-graphs? I mean I guess it's not really an info-graph but it certainly isn't the same thing as a rage comic or plain image macro. It has sources and brings up good arguments to things we hear people say everyday, and it does so in a certain way that accommodate the modern lack of an attention span. I think it's actually kind of helpful but I don't know, was just saying.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:48 AM
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It's also ridiculous that a woman can slightly self-harm themselves and get a man instantly arrested without any trouble or consequences. Yeah maybe eventually the man could clear his name and get out of jail, but that takes time and money while they're already suffering consequences just for having a penis and a woman not liking them. It's truly ridiculous but not only that, it's incredibly sad. =( Edit: I should also point out that even if a man gets his named cleared and released from jail, h…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:11 AM
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I'm missing the point here. I don't know how to reply, could you expand on that thought?
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:20 AM
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Should have and did are two different things though. While obviously this women should have been charged and put through the system, there is a good chance that she wasn't. A women has the chance to go to court and fight the system without being arrested because, while I don't really know why, because society views women differently. If a man is accused of anything, they are arrested. They then must post bail and try to fight the charge from the outside or stay in jail because their bail is too …
/r/MensRights30/08/13 07:52 AM
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Unfortunately, that one store isn't very representative of society as a whole. It's a great thing that was your experience but it's not how it happens very often. I don't think, I hope, no one thinks that every single place has practices that gives women preferential treatment, but most of them do. There could have been a number of reasons that women was given the job, but again this situation is the minority while most places basically screw over men while giving women a pass. While I don't kno…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:04 PM
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And that is why I put "feminist" in quotes every time. It's not right to tell people how they should label themselves but in reality, a ton of people who are for equality are mis-labeling themselves as "feminists" when they really just want equality for people. Anyone who scratches> the surface of "feminist theory" can figure out quite quickly how much hate that movement is based off of, hence when I say "feminist" I mean "feminist theory" because there are a lot of good people that unfortunatel…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:43 PM
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I think the point that the person was trying to make was that society doesn't "make" women feel ashamed for these things. Society in general has come out with the "girl power" do whatever makes you happy, and you're special and pretty and blah blah blah. It's really true actually, on a whole, I see it as a flip side to those that say there is a "war on women" going on in the country. That said, of course some women are going to feel ashamed, or just in general feel bad about some of these things…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:38 PM
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http://novascotia.ca/just/global_docs/Cyberbullying_EN.pdf Jeez, that's a creepy bill. I really like the end part of it. About soles protecting girls and women, and working with local women's groups to protect them. Man, I can really see how this type of bill can be heavily abused and considering a lot of these "feminist" groups aren't above calling in false rape threats on themselves and blaming it on others, plain ole normal false rape threats off the internet, slandering men as pedophiles to …
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:28 PM
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I hate the system that gives women the agency of a child and the respect and power of an adult, and allows the bad ones to soil the reputation of women.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:13 PM
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It's really sad actually. I personally believe that people with mental illness should get treatment, then again I believe our prison system should be more about rehabilitation than revenge so I am pretty idealistic. It's sad because when a male commits a crime, mental illness or not, society wants to nail them to a wall, the fact that mental illness needs to be treated only seems to get brought up when it's a woman on trail. Even then women just seem to be let go because of their mental illness …
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:12 PM
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I know what you mean, most of the time it seems like they start with a conclusion and work backwards from there, excluding the facts that prove them wrong and including anything that makes them seem correct.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:20 AM
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Not that I have any statistics to back this up off hand but people being drugged and robbed happens more often that people think. People being drugged and then raped, doesn't occur as often as much as people think.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:25 PM
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If you are female, then they are taken seriously, if not than they're taken as they should be.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:23 AM
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I always hear about how rape is "normalized and excused" in culture but to be quite honest we are very harsh and it is far from "accepted" in any way shape or form. I hear things like women being asked what they were wearing when they report a rape, which literally never happens, never been brought up in court. Though we do have quite a few rape shield laws that make the decision to report a rapist, or just accuse someone, quite easy to do with impunity and anonymity. We have mobs that violently…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:15 PM
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But first we must ask the reason why women need special "places of safety"; why women have to have protection, "patrols", extra surveillance in areas that they frequent, and constant monitoring of their movements? They don't. Period. This kind of fear mongering always cracks me up a little bit, but I suppose it's better to laugh than to be angry. This falls into a similar line of though as when people claim "Men don't know what it's like to worry about rape constantly, to have people walk them t…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 07:32 AM
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I'm not accepting anything without question you fucking tool. Like i said, it's on the internet, take shit with a grain of salt but to outright just call the guy a lair because what? His tone doesn't match what you think it should? What other nice concrete facts do you have that this is a lie? You believe this is a lie because you want too, which makes you ignorant. Plain and fucking simple, you're not saying maybe it's a lie, no 100% it's a lie, because you said so, without any basis or reason …
/r/MensRights11/08/13 04:13 AM
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You know it's one thing to understand that we're all on the internet right now and whatever you read should be taken with a grain of salt because it could be true or it could be a lie, but to outright just say it's a lie because I feel like it's a lie is just insane to me. I think it really highlights a problem that male victims face, they have no ability to tell anyone about their experience without being mocked or belittled or straight up told they're lying. Let alone if they want to law to ta…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 04:08 AM
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Apparently I have to specify that I am not OP, but as someone who has been raped by a woman, I don't understand why this would set off you BS detector other than the fact that it was posted on the internet and anything you read on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt. To me it just seems like most people who are calling "bullshit" are only doing so because "woman rapes man" is such a foreign idea it's hard for them to understand, which doesn't really make anything bullshit. So I'm j…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 04:02 AM
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Apparently I have to specify that I am not OP, but as someone who has been raped by a woman, I don't understand why this would set off you BS detector other than the fact that it was posted on the internet and anything you read on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt. To me it just seems like most people who are calling "bullshit" are only doing so because "woman rapes man" is such a foreign idea it's hard for them to understand, which doesn't really make anything bullshit. So I'm j…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 04:02 AM
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You can't even be bothered to pay attention to who you're responding too you fucking tool. You want to do your arm chair analysis of OP but you can't even be bothered to read usernames or hell even read my comment apparently, because I made it very clear that I'm not OP. You have come to a conclusion that someone lied and want to pretend that there is some kind of logic behind it when in reality you're most likely either a troll or just a complete fucking ignorant cunt. Either way, you're certai…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 03:55 AM
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You reek of bullshit. Jesus I'm really glad you can rationalize a way not to give a shit about people, and a way for you to keep whatever ignorant beliefs you have. People like you are such a huge fucking problem, people like you are the reason men don't go to the cops when they've been raped, or seek any form of help because no matter what you'd say the story was bullshit. It's just infuriating, and as someone who's been raped by a woman I just hope that one day you open your mind just a little…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 01:43 AM
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I don't understand what you're trying to communicate with this comment. If you could clarify, maybe that would help me make sense of it? I'd rather that than just down vote you.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 01:40 AM
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No worries mate, it's a very real thing and people get really confused when they see a post with like 10k upvotes and 7k downvotes, and can't figure out how something is so controversial when it's like a picture of some person's cat, that's when the vote fudging thing is active. It's pretty interesting stuff actually when you look at how the bots work and how that blocks it, among other thing reddit does. How it figures out the order things are presented in a subreddit is pretty interesting. Con…
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:49 AM
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From the articles I've read of jezabel I can't imagine them trying to cover men's issues. Quite honestly, to jezabel men are the issue.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:36 AM
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What you're talking about doesn't actually add votes or downvotes, it just skews vote count so that bots have a hard time knowing what to do. Though that doesn't kick in until the hundreds and thousands of votes, so it's not really what's going on here.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:06 AM
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That's the most confusing part. If she was trying to make a point, why not compare custodians to custodians, apples to apples. It drives me crazy that not only do these people have to reach so far to get their "points" across and they don't even notice how much skewing they have to do to arrive at their conclusions. Drives me insane, even more so considering these people are able to speak in the mainstream and are taken seriously when everything they say is such bullshit.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 08:15 AM
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I'm curious as to where you got this information. Is it public record what white house jobs get paid, or was their an article. That sounds like a decent read actually.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:52 AM
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If you don't know, people have bots that come through and downvote all men's rights posts and comments. Though luckily they only make one round usually.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:51 AM
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Men work High paid, High danger jobs. I think that's a pretty important distinction. Men don't make more on average because there are a lot of them in the STEM fields, there are quite a few more construction/other dangerous jobs that women just don't want to do. Hell I don't want to do them but for some reason all of those safer jobs seem to be mainly female fields where men have a very hard time breaking into, while on the reverse there are quite a few incentives, and more trying to get pushed …
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:45 AM
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I think a lot of that backlash comes because of how easy it is for a man to end up in prison for long stretches of time because of false accusers. Personally though I think instead of focusing on the type of prison sentence, which I agree false accusers should face, we should really focus more on the flaws in the system that allow these people to basically send men to prison based simply on their word. If the system didn't make men guilty until proven innocent it would make for a much better sys…
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:10 AM
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They just had a SRSdiscussion link a few days ago. A lot of it comes down to the fact that "feminism" is mainstream and people don't look any farther into it than "equality for women" and the flip side is Men's right's groups get called hate groups and they don't look any farther into that. It's dumb to be quite honest but I don't really expect any better for people that don't bother to educate themselves on the matter. That's a very just on the surface type of analysis though.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 09:05 PM
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That's what happens when you tell every man you met that he's a rapist and evil person. Shame is a powerful tool. One of the reasons people make fun of MRA, not because they disagree with what we have to say but because people shame them into it. So yes, I imagine she lives in an echo chamber, it's pretty obvious.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:48 AM
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18 months is a joke. It spits in the face of any young man that had been sexually assaulted or raped by a woman. It's really just society saying that they do not care. Underage sex laws are apparently only there to protect young women and people really think its unfortunate when these predators get caught and they get let off with a slap on the wrist. This is one of those "massive" sentencing discrepancies between men and women. I feel sorry for this woman's next victim, and could treatment like…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:37 AM
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I would just like to know how the "patriarchy" causes this. For real any passing "feminists" that would like to answer this, I am genuinely curious how the "patriarchy" causes society to care so little about young boys. It's not even men, these are children and people just do not care, hell even blame the children. My second question is can you tell me what "feminism" is doing to help rectify these things or any women's group or "feminist" group in general that is openly speaking about how abhor…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 07:28 AM
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I just want to check to make sure I'm understanding you. What you are claiming is that there is no such thing as a "Female power fantasy" but there is most definitely "male power fantasies" and it's show quite often in things such as comic books? Also that what anything anyone is pointing out as "female power fantasy" is really just "female beauty fantasy" because sexual power doesn't exist? We can only take "power" to only mean the very literal definition "strong" because there is no other way …
/r/MensRights05/08/13 01:43 AM
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So you're only concerned about comics are other media marketed at men and have nothing to say about female fantasies that go on in females marketed media. The point of the post wasn't "Super boob girls is a female power fantasy" it was hey too at how this supposed "male power fantasy"(terrible evil bad cis scum stuff) and this "Totally fine female fantasy"(Romance novel, female marketed media, objectifying men, setting unrealistic standards for entertainment, sexual control a women exerts over a…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 12:58 AM
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Apple to apples, oranges to oranges. When you go apples to oranges it doesn't make you right, it makes you dumb.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 12:53 AM
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Yeah totally mate because I can see how many idea's you're throwing out there? Oh no just name calling and general tom fuckery, way to be be the dullest tool in the box. For real though if you have a better idea of what people should be doing rather than trying to raise awareness in various ways I would just love to hear your ideas.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 09:21 AM
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I just...for real my mind just can't wrap itself around how this could possibly be published and how anyone...Fuck I really can't even comment here. Just fucking sad...sad fucking world. I'm going to just tell myself that you are incorrect and this is photoshopped, it's actually caused me physical pain trying to rationalize that someone somewhere thought this was ok. Just trolls being trolls.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 09:10 AM
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I wouldn't keep trying to talk to trolls. It's obvious they have what they want to say made up which includes it's men's fault for sex and everyone here loves rape. Trolls are just dumb. I don't know why it's so hard to understand that women have options and there is a whole thought process that happens where women get to act like adults, or should act like adults. My favorite is Is your argument that because women carry the greater economic cost/risk of reproduction, they should also carry the …
/r/MensRights22/07/13 09:07 AM
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You're kind of a tool if that's what you take away from what was said. On one hand you're saying you're giving the sub reddit a chance and on the other hand you're purposefully misinterpreting something to make yourself angry. What the person had stated was that while yes it is tragic when someone gets raped and pregnant, women have options. They do not have to keep the child and making the conscious choice to stay pregnant after you are raped comes with it's own set of problems that should go t…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 09:01 AM
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I know, the I'm confused thing was suppose to be a my little joke but I'm terrible at being funny. It's pretty obviously fake. There isn't even a moral delima here, honestly it just seems like someone heard the MRM was pro-rapist and someone wanted to get an I gotcha moment. Like people are going to really be like "ah yeah protect the rapist". People are weird. BUT I'M SO CONFUSED, HOW ARE PEOPLE HERE NOT TELLING THIS GUY EVERYTHING HE DID WAS OK, HE'S OBVIOUSLY AN AWESOME GUY AND BASICALLY REPR…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 08:00 AM
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I'M SO CONFUSED
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:39 AM
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It doesn't say he pleaded guilty because he didn't know if he did it or not, but rather he took a plea deal because it was his only way to avoid going to prison. It's a pretty common practice actually, the article also says he maintained his innocence even after taking the deal(which was most likely a no contest, but that's basically just guilty) and it says he was only mildly retarded. Though apparently he does drink. Anyway, no matter what a wonderful family they might be, I feel like those mi…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:35 AM
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I get it. It's like when a shop owner see's a black guy enter their store and they make sure to watch them extra carefully. I've got you back homie, these kinds of concerns are perfectly normal and should be acted on.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:25 AM
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Well do you have any alternatives to "stay away" or do you figure just hoping for the best is this guy's best bet.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:21 AM
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Meh I think it's more of a single girl just being an idiot. She can barely form coherent sentences. I mean I get it, this is the kind of stuff most people learn is ok about girls being better than boys but I don't know, we know that's obviously a bigoted way to look at things. Maybe I'm just jaded.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 05:53 AM
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Please, this has got to be photoshopped. My brain is like twitching, there is just no way anything mainstream could publish something like this.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 05:51 AM
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Yeah I can agree with that. I think it's important to point out the extremes that men need to go to in order to protect themselves. It's a sad state of affairs but in this day and age these things unfortunately need to be in every man's mind, it's extremely sad but that's the system that's in place. I get what you mean though. If you want to be completely safe, you'd never leave your house and you wouldn't interact with anyone and obviously that unrealistic. It's just something people need to ke…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:19 AM
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That's really the key isn't it. We don't need to jump the gun and make society treat females the same way they treat males(badly) but we need to work out a reasonable system that treats people like adults instead of monsters and children.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:04 AM
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Meh people get upset and jump to their own conclusions. Maybe you are seeking validation or you're some super secret troll trying to make the MRM look bad. To me though it's all kind of moot, it's obvious someone pissed you and you'd rather not be apart of that group. I've got this sneaking suspicion that you don't actually hate women, just the one's that pissed you off. Anyway I guess what I'm trying to say is that some people are assholes, assholes are everywhere and I hope they don't make you…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:01 AM
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I find it interesting that they talk about DV reports increasing by 40 percent but completely discounts that any of those could possibly be men reporting DV. We all know it's amazingly sad that DV is a pretty split statistic but yet we still feel the need to shame men and focus harder and harder on making women the victims which only makes it easier for female abusers to do what they do and much less likely for men to call and report that they are being abused. If I think about it for more than …
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:54 AM
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I was calling pretzel a troll. I don't really sweat the d-votes though. Honestly It's not like I use this account to post anywhere except r/MR, haha if I did all my posts would be super downvoted. Daede is all good but I mean if someone can't imagine the double standard here than they are being willfully ignorant, so maybe troll wasn't the right word.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:50 AM
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There's just another article posted on this subreddit about a male teacher who molested his 14 year old student and got 15-30 years. With that the teachers at his school were actually trying to help get this man a lower sentence but luckily that didn't change the judges mind and he doled out proper punishment. I don't see much of a difference between that case and this case except she is a woman and it's somehow bad that she got 2 years and doesn't have to sign up on a sex offenders list for the…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:48 AM
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I know, like I said I'm just hoping it was handled well and properly. That's the best we can all hope for, if these ladies are innocent then I'm glad justice prevailed and we should be working to find out what caused the accusations to begin with and get the boys help, if things were handled wrong(which from the article we have no reason to believe) than things are very sad. That's about it.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:44 AM
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I know you will Tyciol and that's you, and it's all good. I've just found that people don't change their mind. Even if they're point is just based on something they've been told all their life and they believe it, no amount of charts and graphs and facts is going to change that unless they want it too. No use getting myself worked up at someone just for disagreeing with me(with reason or not) plus I always like to remind myself that I could possibly be wrong and keep myself open to changing my o…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:40 AM
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I just don't get it. You seem to have a decent head on your shoulders and some of what you've said made sense but I just don't understand why you single lesbians to not support or maybe not singled them out but I just don't get it. Some of them are angry feminists? I mean I get that but I think feminists should have equal rights, I don't like them but they're still humans. Same thing with transgendered people. Why you lump them in with feminists I don't get because they hate at least half of the…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:27 AM
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Just to point out I believe the author lives in the UK, where they specifically have stated that men cannot be raped by women and purposefully keep it that way. So while yes in some places(can't say I agree with "most") women can be charged with rape, not where the author is and it rarely happens as far I know. Also rape rarely includes being forced to penetrate someone or for a man to be forced to give a woman oral sex.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:15 AM
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Yeah I mean I understand how the logistics of it would make it difficult but if there was sufficient reason to believe that rape did take place, than a warrant should've at least been applied for to get DNA evidence from the woman. Now I don't know if it happened, again the article is certainly short on information but I don't know why we would have a reason to believe these young children would be lying and we're constantly told how people need to be taken seriously in these situations and appr…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:11 AM
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Well obviously he said so, it must be true. If you disagree with something, then do you best to shame it and show how it somehow doesn't matter because you don't like it.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:00 AM
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I'm just curious what you would recommend someone in this position should do. While yeah giegerwasright is suggesting something on the extreme side but it would protect him, not completely but it definitely lowers the chance of a complaint being made. It's either that or just pretend that the world doesn't look at men as pedophiles and hope this woman or others don't feel like making another claim against you or elevating her first one. I'm just kinda drawing a blank what would be reason and in …
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:48 AM
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Yeah it doesn't seem like there is too much information given so it would be kinda pointless to assume they were guilty when we have no reason to believe they were. Though I imagine with genders reversed people would be way more interested in figuring things out, also I don't know why DNA evidence wasn't collected. It mentions that that it would've been easier to figure out if it had been collected though I don't know if that's really a gendered issue.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 01:43 AM
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That's scary. I mean there isn't much more to say about it. The sad thing though is that while our system certainly isn't instantly killing people accused, it is set up to hurt innocent people and the due process for rape cases, at least in the U.S. is a joke. On top of that, it's getting worse, while I understand that rape is an emotional issue I do not understand how people can think this is ok, or how they think murder somehow isn't a big deal. It boggles my mind how ok so many people are wit…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:19 PM
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But for real my Iq is 154, y'all need to listen to me more often.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:14 PM
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Uh the one's I'm thinking of I believe are just about physical abuse. I believe there are some studies in the sidebar, or in one of our facts thread dumps. I believe what I'm thinking of was just based on physical abuse and doesn't take into account and "unreported" abuse.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:06 PM
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I don't define "feminism", if you go "feminist theory" and the actions of "feminist" interest groups in the past then it paints a pretty specific picture. Now I guess I know what you mean when you say that because quite a few people believe in the equality for women and call themselves "feminists" but at the end of the day that's just not true. It comes down to saying one thing and doing another, anyone can say they stand for anything but maybe it's just me, but I tend to judge things based on w…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:05 PM
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Right on mate, I'm not one to crucify people for not agreeing with me, there is a possibility that I'm wrong.(A small small tiny possibility =p). Take it easy hombre.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:00 PM
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Point out where I'm wrong, and leave the judgement of my character to experts Everything. Literally almost everything you said is opinion and isn't factual in anyway. I don't support the Lesbian or Transgender rights. All the lesbians I've met were man hating feminists(almost definitely)just pretending to be gay with their [Not as rigid as men's] sexuality. So you don't support rights for lesbians because you've met some shitty people. Again while I don't doubt there are quite a few shitty lesbi…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:59 PM
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It depends on what statistics you look at. That's the thing about statistics though, you can basically find some study somewhere that will agree with whatever you say. A lot of those studies are done in really shitty ways and there are reasons that happens. In my experience and my research when you account for a +/- of 5% domestic violence is basically an even keel. So I wouldn't feel comfortable saying domestic abuse is perpetrated by women more than men, but on an anecdotal note and simply fro…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:46 PM
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http://www.cosmopolitan.com/celebrity/news/anti-rape-ad I mean I guess that is only one but I've seen quite a few others, I just don't have them on tap you know to through out there. It's actually quite common, and I'd say what gives the original image we were talking about having a "feminist" slant is just that, how slanted what it says is. Domestic violence isn't mainly against women and perpetrated by women, it is on the other hand a male issue. Rape is also a male issue, and a female issue b…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:38 PM
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I get what you're saying and I would agree with most of it. I'd say a lot of "facts" are being reevaluated though and since a lot of those don't line up with "feminist" ideology and thus are often swept under the carpet, again check the side bar there are quite a few studies that do not even get acknowledged. As far as walking down the street wearing a dress making out with whomever, obviously as long as you're not hurting everyone of course you should be able to. I think most people here would …
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:27 PM
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See that's the thing, "feminists" don't want rape to get away, all the way is to keep shaming people in getting in line with their ideology. Shame is a powerful tactic which is why they keep up the rape mania, pretending like rape is around every corner for a woman. It's one of those things that basically facts do not matter what so ever, if you want to be a good person you have to follow my ideology. They don't want less rape but rather more "feminists"
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:17 PM
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Or you know child abuse, or the fact the domestic abuse is pretty much 50/50 but let's not let facts get in the way of ideology. Edit: The original comment was very different so that's why it looks like I'm kind of just making random statements but I promise it originally made sense. Also apparently women shouldn't be responsible for anything because men have sex. Trolls are funny.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:15 PM
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I'd say "liberal activist" basically implies being a "feminist". It's really implied in there, most liberals eat up "feminism" like it's the last thing on earth. It's on of those problems with "feminism" being labeled as a "progressive" ideology instead of the toxic cult that it is. Also I'd say the image macro is basically a rip off of quite a "feminist" images that get tossed around so it's not like it's crazy to make the assumption that something that states "feminist" views comes from you kn…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:15 PM
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I think they're just kind of stating facts. My opinion on the matter though is that while you(and others) say that women have been prevented from being in combat roles because they are seen as weaker and incapable, I feel that just isn't true. I think the problem lies in how disposable we view males to be, instead of splitting up the responsibility between genders, society looks at women as something so great that we should keep it out of danger while men as so useless that sending them off to d…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:10 PM
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I think a lot of this happens because society doesn't really except that men have problems of any kind. Men as the oppressors and just in general disposable people is so ingrained into people minds that all of these issues are constantly flipped around into how they affect women and how none of these things are really problems. Of course in reality it isn't a pissing contest and we should focus on fixing everyone's problems instead of figuring out who has it worse but right no we need to get peo…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 10:04 PM
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While I don't agree with your view of "feminism", the point I was making was just that the MRM gets a lot of flack for pointing out women taking advantage of situations or getting special treatment and often called misogynistic or woman hating when in reality it's nothing that is specific to women, it's something most people would take advantage of if given the chance unfortunately. I really wish most "feminism" held the views you stated but that's just not what I've read or seen and I don't oft…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:50 PM
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That's what sucks, places like the daily mail and the sun, fox news, they're really shitty news sources but they're the only place that report things like this. It isn't even that these papers are shitty, they're just very conservative and sensationalist, but still are the only journal with the courage to post things like this. Most other papers wouldn't dare imply that the statutory rape of a young boy is bad or that a women was treated with unfair privilege in the criminal justice system. It's…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:41 PM
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You know what, I didn't think of that but that is a really creepy thought. Journalism does some weird things I mean I completely believe that's why the put trampoline in all caps but I just don't get why they would do that. It's just weird to try to illicit an emotional response from something that should cause people to feel empathy anyway but to me it just makes it look crazy bias. Just a weird thought I suppose, thank you for pointing out the connection for me.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:37 PM
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Honestly the fact that she isn't being put on a sex offenders registry shows clear cut leniency and honestly most males who have sex with a female younger than 15(as it is a greater charge when they are younger than 15) get prison time, most places have minimum mandatory for such crimes. Now you could make an argument that she's not getting the leniency because she's female but other mitigating factors but to me it's pretty clear that it's because she's female. If you look in the side bar you ca…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:32 PM
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If this is a serious question, the answer is pretty simple. Society views male sexuality as a problem and predatory. It's not that there is something wrong with these women going out and getting a view of attractive guys but that society looks at men getting any kind of even mild sexual gratification as horrible. It's the same with every aspect of male sexuality, society really demonizes it which leads to all sorts of problems I won't get into. Though it's not like it's talked about that much be…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:24 PM
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Though thro_way isn't see the doctor as a person but simply someone who can help him. Wouldn't the be damaging in general to doctors and how society treats them and views them. I'm just trying to follow your logic here because thro_way is right, we simply view a doctor as his medical skills, a construction worker for what he can build, a prostitute for her sex abilities, a cashier for their ability to count money. None of these people are viewed as MR. Smith or Ms. Doe just simply the object of …
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:19 PM
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I'm just curious then, by those definitions you would have to agree that people and the media equally objectify men and women and obviously those would have the same damaging qualities to each gender. Unless I am misunderstanding something, which if so if you could help me understand what the difference would be I'd be much appreciated.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:16 PM
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obvious troll is obvious.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:13 PM
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Quite a few blokes telling their tales of being abused - and a few where they basically told their SO "Do that again and I hurt you" at which point the (physical) abuse stops. I think that really speaks for how society teaches women about their interactions with men/anybody. Now obviously violence is never the right answer and there are much better options than attacking your abuser(let alone if you're male because that doesn't hold up in court like it does for females.) but women just don't exp…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 09:11 PM
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Nah man it definitely happens. Honestly I can only surf /r/mensrights like once every 2 weeks or so. After awhile it's just infuriating and super easy to get mad at anything and just be like "Fuck everybody". Most people here aren't trying to be assholes, sometimes everything just seems like too much though and it can be really terrible. I'm glad to hear you're feeling better and like I said, I hope you have a wonderful day, just keep trying to stay relaxed, maybe look at some cat pictures every…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 08:57 PM
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It's natural for anyone to abuse privilege I think that's super important for people to understand. The MRM is constantly accused of being woman haters when we discuss women abusing the system and abusing their privilege but it isn't like this is a strictly "woman" trait. It's human, unfortunately most people are assholes and act as such. If there is something to take advantage of without any consequence, most people will do it. Maybe it's just me but I think it's an important distinction to mak…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 08:54 PM
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I didn't notice him saying that somehow women having the right to vote ruined the country or that they shouldn't have the right to vote. It's pretty well known that at the time, the right to vote wasn't really a right. Men were able to vote because they had to go off to war and die defending the country, it was a trade off. If you spend a little bit of time googling things there were actually quite a few "women's rights" groups that strongly opposed women being able to vote because it was believ…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 08:51 PM
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I think it's possible to admit both genders have problems they have to deal with and state that "feminism" has been a large mistake and done more harm to society than good. While women have problems, that doesn't make "feminism" the solution. Just saying.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 08:44 PM
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Again I think it comes down to who this person is and her resources but if it's being reported that she hit her boyfriend than she confessed somewhere or else cease and desist letters would be flying. Charges won't be pressed in this case because it would cost to much, not because they can't press charges.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 08:55 PM
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Word, I couldn't tell you the frequency of how often it happens or not. I've just seen it happen, obviously though without the victim willing to testify, or willing to testify in the defense of someone it would make it kind of pointless for the state to pick up charges they know they won't win in trial. That said, I only brought it up because this seems like one of the cases they could possibly have brought up charges on their own. I'm sure they documented whatever happend to him and she obvious…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 06:10 PM
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I don't really know how I would change your mind so you can think whatever, the state can pick up charges on just about anything they want, you don't need eye witnesses or people willing to press charges. Those things help but aren't the only pieces of evidence a state can use. Then again I live in a shitty state, so maybe that's why we're thinking our state laws cover the whole U.S., I could possibly be wrong there but I feel very comfortable that at least in 1 state, 2 states actually that the…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 05:18 PM
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I don't know the laws in Canadia but I know that it doesn't matter much in the states, if the alleged victim declines to press charges the state can simply do it. It's all money they get by forcing someone through the justice system so more often than not they will press charges, especially if someone confessed to actually hitting their partner. Again, might be different up north but in the states there is still quite a bit that could be done.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 09:47 PM
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I get what you mean and in an ideal world that would work but trying to nail young boys and girls together just won't work. Like you said society doesn't care about these boys, we need to work very hard to change that anyway we can. In the mean time I don't think it's crazy to acknowledge that young female offenders getting offered resources is still a good thing. Maybe we should be trying to slingshot off of that. It doesn't do anyone any good just to leave them locked up because the boys are.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 11:33 PM
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Maybe it's because I'm comparing it to US prison and gladiator camps but I still don't think children should in places like this. No I don't know what magic classes or therapy will help but I still think we need to be doing something since sending them off to prison just frankly isn't working. That's really all I have to say about it, we need more options for these children. Obviously we need to protect victims, I'm sorry if I made it sound like we should just give all these kids second chances …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 11:30 PM
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You're correct, no one should be freed. What a much better attitude.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 11:26 PM
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Yes absolutely, maybe you could make this comment for it's own thread or PM OP. It's just something I've heard mentioned but it seems like they could be of some use for him.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 11:07 PM
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WELL MAYBE IF YOU COULD SHUT THE FUCK UP I COULD TELL YOU IT'S BECAUSE PATRIARCHY.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 10:06 PM
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Sorry sorry, yes obviously sarcasm. "Absolute Bullshit" is a terrible argument.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:59 PM
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I don't completely understand why people bring up strength when they talk about DV cases? Is a woman incapable of picking up a weapon? I know I've personally been flayed within an inch of my life and couldn't call the police. Maybe it's because I have personal experiences with this that I think of that, not just me but I'd say most men I know have been hit with something when a woman got mad. So I know that's just anecdotal but I think it's pretty unfair to claim the DV is more dangerous for wom…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:57 PM
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Personally I've always been partial to the "Absolute bullshit" argument. I mean if I don't agree with what you have to say what else could it possible be? Do people really need reasons with arguments like that, it's just so elegant and flawless. Honestly I was quite swayed but wolfie, don't see how you weren't Doch.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:43 PM
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Honestly it's not like it's that uncommon of a thing. It's pretty true of anyone who blindly follows an ideology. Hell it even happens here, I've been down voted and cussed at in another thread just today just because I didn't blindly disagree with an article that was posted. Most people do not like their views even mildly challenged, or to even think that they're being challenged, let alone if they are actually wrong. Hence why you have such a strong push back in a long of places where "feminis…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:30 PM
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Really because he brings up a good point about redefining words like "patriarchy" to fit whatever issue it's needed for. I just, if you could for me please, give me a definition you would be comfortable with for "patriarchy". Let it be as long or as short as you want, I'm just curious what you believe that word to mean or rather what it means I suppose. Honestly though this just seems like another post by some who enjoys "moving the goal posts" among other things. You seem to have a lot of "I do…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:23 PM
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Yeah more or less you understand what I'm saying. I don't know if I buy into more males committing crimes that necessitate going to prison instead of trying to find alternatives because of a cultural behavioral difference, but like courtroom bias that is a different issue. Yup though you seem to understand the heart of what I was saying. Not all that extreme I thought but meh apparently I was wrong in thinking that.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 10:39 AM
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I imagine you're having a bad day because you might be mildly retarded. You keep pretending like I'm talking about how only girls should be exempt from prison when I'm specifically saying that children do not benefit from being put in places like prison and other options need to be put on the table or we end up creating more criminals and not dealing with problems. I can totally see how that can be interpreted as whatever that fuck it is you think I'm saying though. Totally man. Edit: I really d…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 10:34 AM
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Well I'm gonna guess you've never been to prison. Let me let you in on a little secret, it doesn't help do anything but make those kids you're complaining about even more like real criminals. Yeah let's get these fucking CHILDREN stuck in a system that once in becomes massively hard to escape from. Since you're so fucking intelligent, you can tell me what I have and havn't done in my life maybe take a second to look at the recidivism rate of children that enter the system at young ages and what …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 07:49 AM
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Yeah totally bra because it's not like "Like I said no young person gains anything from going to prison. It's not a zero-sum situation" was the exact fucking thing I said after that. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you just wanna misinterpret me, or you're just massively dyslexic. So either you're a fucking tool, or you have a learning disability and if it's the ladder than I completely forgive you and wish you the best of luck. I mean someone has to be special after all.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 07:39 AM
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I'm not trying to imply that it's an ideal situation or even a very good one but I still think it's a good thing. Like I've said, it's still sexist, and it's still detrimental but that doesn't mean it's not a positive thing for women. Honestly I don't know why people are having a hard time understanding that something can be partially good and while my MGM analogy isn't perfect, it doesn't have to be. I wasn't trying to make an exact analogy, the concept is the same. It almost seems like people …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 07:37 AM
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Well what I mean is that it's a good thing in the sense that young girls don't get any help from going to prison. Like I said no young person gains anything from going to prison. It's not a zero-sum situation, just because it's sexist that they won't completely abolish it for young boys too doesn't change the fact that abolishing it for young girls is progress. Yes they should change it for young boys too and yes it is sexist that they won't, but bigger picture young girls don't need to suffer t…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:00 AM
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Holy shit, this kind of stuff cracks me up. It really shows the cognitive dissidence that people have. They really think they're super progressive and rational, open minded, moral people but that is the kind of shit that comes out of their heads. It's just insane. Also how did this make it on rational wiki, the whole thing is just one logical fallacy after another, and not even little fallacies, like big glaring bias fallacies. Dumb. Edit: Rereading the article, this has to be a troll. I know po…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 03:25 AM
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I don't get it. If he has 8 kids from 8 different women and supports all of them it makes it ok for 1 of them to disregard a courts decision, disregard him as a parent, use the child for leverage and in general act like a terrible human being doing the opposite of what's in the child's best interest? Yeah I agree that getting multiple women pregnant isn't the most responsible thing and I wouldn't do it but if someone else does that doesn't make them a bad person. It certainly doesn't mean they d…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 03:18 AM
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Not necessarily, I know she isn't in the US but a lot of trials have evidence suppressed. I don't know what the laws are in her country, and it does speak of the 77(OMG) but in practice it won't matter much, police still have to take every accusation seriously. I mean honestly if previous actions mattered much than maybe after the 30th or 40th accusation they would have just stopped letting her make them, but they obviously can't. It's sad but true. I brought up the U.S. because there are actual…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 03:05 AM
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It's weird how easy it is for people to start rationalizing why women should be treated special because they have a vagina. The person you replied to most likely doesn't even notice that he did it and while it's a mildly small rationalization, it's just that. There are numerous thing that can be done aside from arresting the man just because a woman said rape but as a society people are just kind of ok with that, well until it happens to them or a loved one. Just strange how easy it is to excuse…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:54 AM
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I think that's something a lot of people miss. Woman can still be charged with sexual assault of varying degrees. These are crimes on the book, some with mandatory sentences that are often ignored when adjudicating women. Now I am curious why woman get off so lightly when charged with sex crimes of any nature. Is it just part of the general light sentencing women get naturally? Is it because society sees men as sexual predators so they can rationalize it as the man's fault? It just seems very st…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:49 AM
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Not only is the judge saying that men can't be raped, but he's saying that just because a child is forced to have sex with a women(statutory rape) that doesn't change the fact that he has to pay child support to his rapist. I could write some shitty comment on this fact but I think it speaks for itself and while it's not surprising to us, I think a lot of reasonable people would be appalled by this fact. Also fun fact but organizations like NOW have actually fought to make sure that little boys(…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:46 AM
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Have you ever heard that two wrongs don't make a right? I know this is just an amusing revenge situation and obviously I'll take it as that but in reality it wouldn't be a good idea. Also, depending on your countries/state/whatever common law marriage laws, this could potentially open you up to all kinds of lawsuits. Just saying.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:40 AM
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While it's barley an acknowledgement, at least it's something, tiny and almost insignificant but because it at least occurred to him, even if he dismissed it it still occurred, that is mild progress. Most of the time it doesn't even occur to people that females are capable of rape. Though the ability to rationalize women committed horrible crimes is a whole other matter. Other than that, I agree with you obviously these people are idiots. Unfortunately this kind of behavior is pretty standard bu…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:35 AM
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Sigh I concur and the sad thing is, it just seems so obvious. I really wish there was a way to get these people to have an open mind and actually listen to the other side of the situation. If for just half a second people would actually listen I believe they'd see how little ground they stand on. I think that's one of the biggest things that bug me, these people act like they have the moral high ground and are so super progressive and open minded, especially the male "feminists", but in reality …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:25 AM
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That's really the whole article isn't it. He's basically just saying he's right because he's right. It's just verbal masturbation, he goes on about how manly he is and so he must be super progressive to be manly and believe in "feminism". The whole thing seems to have been written to make him feel better, I imagine someone convinced him that by having a penis he's oppressing women(which he touches on in the article) the whole thing is paper thin and easily refuted. It just makes me sad that this…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:15 AM
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I agree with you but you have to realize that what you're asking is impossible. Personally I try to be as level headed as possible and not resort to childish behavior but honestly, sometimes it's just too much. Something makes me too angry, or something pushes me too far. I have to take breaks from reading MR news because of how horrible it all makes me feel. There are just so many terrible things happening and not only do people not care, they actually vilify the people who want to help. So whe…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:53 AM
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I wouldn't call him an SRSer simply because it implies that he is a radical and his idea's are radical when in reality they're just basic "feminist" ideals.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:47 AM
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It's really sad though isn't it? How many people hate on us just because they think they're suppose to. Yeah forget about men's suicide rates, victims of violent crimes or rape victims. Forget about corrupt laws and domestic abuse victims because I don't understand and someone in my life said it was bad then I will never find out for myself and shame those around me. Not only will I shame those around me but I will advocate for violence against these people and try to harm them for trying to hel…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:45 AM
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I wish the "feminists" that stop by to ask questions and debate would actually debate though =(. Usually what I see is a question, 20 reasonable answers and a troll comment, to which the poster replies to the troll comment and walks away feeling superior. It makes me sad. On the plus side good on us for being an open environment for discussion and promoting the evolution of ideas and a good place to present truth and facts over opinions and feelings. Hooray.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:37 AM
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you are a misogynist if you disagree with "feminist" ideals. I think people would be surprised with how many females there are in the MRA, and also how often they're called Misogynistic. Though as has been said, it's just a shaming tactic. When you don't have a leg to stand on it's best to try to push the other person over.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:30 AM
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So then how would you respond to all those people in this thread that disagree with it? A lot of people make very good points. How is such a high male suicide rate about men not acting like women? Or how about work places deaths, the fact that most violent crimes happen to men, the lack of resources available men that are victims of anything or need help with anything, or any of the numerous other problems. How would you defend the belief when it's so demonstrably false and shallow?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:23 AM
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Just passing by to say good luck and please do not stop fighting. I know it all seems unfair and is going to cost you a lot of money but just try not to let it break you. You know you're doing the right thing, so does everyone around you just try to stay strong and keep doing the right thing. Someone had once commented about there being a type of court appointed mediator or something that basically works as a case worker and does an independent review that are taken very serious by family courts…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:14 AM
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My favorite is when he links to Wikipedia and has obviously not read it and definitely didn't read the sources that the Wikipedia article used. I find this happens when someone truly believes that what they're saying is so obviously right the article is obviously going to agree with him. It's just weird to see and even weirder that he gets angry when people point out he's wrong, the projection is strong with him too. He tells people about logical fallacies while using many of them himself and ca…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:58 AM
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I don't know, I often ask other people do do their own research because I find that people are more likely to believe something they looked up themselves than if I said spoon feed it to them. That said, if I was having a discussion and someone provided sources than I would never use "do your own research" as my source. At that point you kind of have to recipricate if you want to be taken serious. That isn't the case here it seems, this person believes what they believe because they've been told …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:49 AM
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TA DA. That was actually much quicker than I thought. I don't know why I find it so amazing that you're willing to admit you made a small mistake and rectified but it's just such a rare quality in people, let alone websites that I find it truly amazing. Keep up the great work, COTWA is one of my favorite(even if very depressing) sites to read, always well written and interesting. It's unfortunate people("feminists") tend to call it bias or misogynistic, but quite frankly that's just because you …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:43 AM
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This is a good thing. I know it's sexist and bias but prison does nothing for children. We need to provide other resources and actually try to help children not to become repeat offenders. I don't care if it's to save money, this is progress, I might not have the answer, but I know without a shadow of a doubt that the answer is never prison for children. If you find it strange that I would be that certain, I'm also just as certain that the death penalty doesn't help children either, or crime for…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:36 AM
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I honestly don't know this specific quote. I've heard other like it though from other people. I imagine even it's it out of context, the point it makes it pretty clear but I could be wrong. I know this is most likely pointed at organized religion but it works equally well for "feminism"(and others) which is why things like "atheism plus" are oxymoronic. You should never believe something just because an ideology says it's true, believe things because they are true, find sources, do research, lea…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:26 AM
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It's not about defining anything or labeling anything. The problem with ideologies and similar things is when you follow it with blind faith. When you take things because they're ####ist/ism rather than being skeptical and thinking for yourself. In our context, the -ism not liked here would be "feminism" which has tons of perpetuated myths that a lot of people really believe. The wage gap is one that is just so easily busted but yet a lot of people believe it because "feminism" said so, and they…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:22 AM
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Honestly it's a lot more common than people think and just fucking horrible to be quite honest. I really cannot believe that in this day and age something like this can happen and people just shrug and go "Well it's ok because penis" as if because he is a male he cannot be a victim and thus this is ok. Also hopefully Pierce shows up, he frequents R/MR quite a bit. If he sees this he would usually post an relevant information he has, COTWA is such an amazing website. It's incredibly unbiased and …
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:16 AM
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Well it's a human thing. It's not MRA specific. Quite frankly we don't like things or people that disagree with us and have a very hard time admitting when we're wrong or have made a mistake. That is just so massively human it's not even funny. Personally I've been accused of being a "feminist' or "feminist apologist", white knight etc. simply because I disagree with someone or I'm skeptical. To MRA it's quite frankly meant as an insult. Like I said, quite a few of us see "feminism" as a hate gr…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:09 AM
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Meh a lot of people don't like anyone who identifies with "feminists" or in general identifies with a lot of their ideology. You seem pretty decent though and while I disagree with you seem like a decent human being so I tend to assume you look at feminism more as "equality for women" than the SRS type. Either way I hope you stay posting on this forum and don't let some rude jackasses discourage you from voicing your opinions, having an echo chamber is pointless. Anyway to the points I disagree …
/r/MensRights07/07/13 11:43 PM
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Word up mate. No harm no foul.
/r/MensRights07/07/13 11:20 PM
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Yeah don't respond to any of the other comments, home in on the one that makes you feel sidled. The inarticulate(though all he's really trying to say is, what male power? the average female has it better than the average male take for example the harsher prison sentences for men that commit the same crimes with the same background or how many men are homeless without all the million and millions of resources available to women) response instead of the dozens of other ones. It always amazing me w…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 04:13 AM
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Ah yes. I don't know if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me but I certainly agree with you. It's simple, maybe I misunderstand your body language or I'm just a dick trying to get laid or whatever. A simple "I'm not interested" helps to clear things up. That's literally all I've been saying to this guy but apparently that makes me childish for thinking adults can just talk. Of course she has no obligation to talk to anyone she doesn't want to but when you're out in public someone might want …
/r/MensRights25/06/13 02:28 AM
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Yup totally, you got me haha. It's not that I've said of course you can read someone's body language and decide to leave them alone or hey maybe you decide not to, maybe you read sad instead of mad or maybe you're just a prick. You're right somehow that it's a big deal and no easily remedied by the other person you know just fucking speaking. I'm sure whenever someone interrupts you, you just glare and them, damn their aducidy not knowing you didn't wish to speaks with the likes of them, evil sc…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 02:20 AM
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Ok so you've avoided it again. Not only are you really taking this article out of context and trying to say all people should watch body language,which isn't what this article is saying it's pretty specific. No of course it wouldn't be prudent to bother someone who looked angry but does that mean that if someone did do that and got punched in the face that was somehow right? No of course not because as an adult you're not suppose to use violence, the person being bothered would say "Could you le…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 10:40 PM
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Yeah so your terrible analogy aside, I'm just curious as to why it's so important to give women excuses not to speak up for themselves. Yes it might be rude to ignore body language and bother someone that didn't want to be bothered, but then the person goes "Hey, I'm busy" or "Piss off". This is just a total non issue except the blog has to remind men that all women think of them as possible rapists and that they should remind themselves of that too on a constant basis while at the same time to …
/r/MensRights24/06/13 10:18 PM
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Indeed and while I completely agree with you and Women MRAs have tons of good and important things to say, it's mildly sad though that we actually need them to get heard in any spectrum of mainstream. Even if they're saying the exact same thing as vocal Male MRAs, the men are just vilified so it's not a joke that we actually NEED more female MRAs. Weird and sad, though more power to anyone willing to speak up and put themselves in the cross hairs, I don't mean to make it seem easy for anyone to …
/r/MensRights24/06/13 10:00 PM
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It's not just about reading body language though. It comes down to why do men have to be on the constant watch for everyone. Why do I not only have to take responsibility for myself but also any woman around me. When she said yes did she really mean yes? Did her eyes glance away? Should I ask again. Maybe she only wanted to kiss I should ask again, Maybe she only wanted to be on top, I should ask if this is ok, maybe she didn't want to talk I shouldn't both, maybe she thinks I'm a rapist I shoul…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 09:48 PM
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I used the word agenda incorrectly. It seems like you came here with an idea, 100% no bias, or 95% or whatever you know what I mean and that really shows through with what you talk about. It really only takes a little bit of googling to find this "mountain of evidence" most people reference. I might chalk it up the cases that you've seen, or the judges in your district might be fair and unbiased but that's far from the norm but how are you to know that unless you go out and research yourself so …
/r/MensRights24/06/13 05:17 PM
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Yeah exactly, while I know it's not officially used any more that kind of ingrained systematic discrimination doesn't just disappear. I would be curious as to his general thoughts on it, if there is 0 bias in the courts than why was this even a thing? I'm with everyone else, this guy obviously had an agenda with his posts and they're quite half assed answers, and while these things could be 100 percent what he believes and 100 percent his experience there's a mountain of evidence that show's a c…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 04:08 PM
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Yes it may be the truth but is it relevant. This isn't about who has it worse, that doesn't matter. We need to fix any and all problems whether they involve men or women. That's all I meant, we don't need to prove who is screwed over more, that's childish, there are very serious problems that cause harm to men and we need to fix those. Same thing with women, any problems that they face should be looked at and fixed just as much as male problems. Unfortunately society doesn't care about legal bia…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 03:54 PM
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"I can do it, as long as the government helps me and we need more systematic privileges and others need to be put at a disadvantage so we can succeed."
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:57 PM
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That's what's sad. If the definition of "feminism" is simply about having equality between the sexes than almost all of the people in the MRM are "feminists". I know that's such a radical idea for people to wrap their heads around because it's easier to just write us off as a "hate group" because the points we make interfere with the ignorance most people are taught but it's wrong and sad. Basically all most MRA's are, are people saying "Hey we're having a lot of problems in these area's and it'…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:55 PM
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I was searching through the AMA and I was curious if anyone asked him about the tender years doctrine or anything like that, or if any questions came up about unfounded violence claims that pop up against fathers/husbands when it's divorce time. Did he have anything to say about either of those? It seems in his experience there isn't a bias and what not, which anecdotal might be true but it also seems like that's what he wants it to be so he might ignore the things that show that is wrong. It's …
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:45 PM
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I really wish some "feminists" would swing on by to comment on things like this. I mean I know quite a few hang around here waiting for an idiots or a troll to say something stupid like "OH WELL WOMEN SHOULD JUST BLOW ME AND WE SHOULD RAPE AND KILL ALL OF THEM" and then respond condemning all of us while patting themselves on the back for how progressive and smart they are. I guess what I'm saying is I don't understand why they go for the trolls and comments that everyone knows are wrong and are…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 11:33 AM
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It's not just "feminists" unfortunately, society as a whole doesn't seem to accept the idea that men can be victims of anything. It's really a sad thing that "feminism" had to go an co-opt the rape culture idea and bend it and break it to fit their mold when in reality it was created to discuss the problem facing men in prison which is a very real problem. Though bring it up in that light faces it's own problems but it's just sad that people believe there is any sort of "rape culture" that affec…
/r/MensRights24/06/13 11:28 AM
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Shhh you can't just gender flip things, that's cheating.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 11:03 AM
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It's like when you run into the phrase "because the patriarchy" in something and you know it's all just down hill from there.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 11:02 AM
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But if she didn't cry about misogyny people might have you know one day be judged for things like their merit and gender won't play any role into things because people are just seen as equals.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 11:01 AM
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I'll be honest, from the outside it really looks like you're the one that's butthurt for one reason. You made a mistake, it happens, let's just move on past this. Cool beans.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:59 AM
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That's something that seems so weird to me. It's increasingly harder for men to enter fields like early child education with an increasing number of single mother families and children growing up without a positive male role model in their lives. You'd think reasonable people would want as many positive role models as they could in these children's lives as they could, you know diversity and all that. Instead society keeps insisting that men are just no necessary, except as someone who provides …
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:57 AM
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I'm just curious why people would expect there to be more conservative people here? Honestly I expect most of the people here to be more left leaning in their views or to consider themselves independent but that's mainly because I see those people with more open minds that don't except "facts" like "feminism" just because it's been shoved down their throat there whole lives. Now I understand progressive doesn't equal Democrat but that's how my thought process goes, completely unscientific but it…
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:50 AM
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It really is. I've had terrible things happen to me at the hands of women, and I don't blame women for them. I've had therrible things happen to me at the hands of men, and I don't blame men for it. People, in general, do bad things. People will believe whatever makes them feel better. I'm jaded and so are most people here, so are the people we preach against. Though I think we have a much more open mind, like I said before, I'm jaded. It's hard to admit your world view is wrong, unless forced t…
/r/MensRights25/05/13 06:36 AM
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a lot of them, yes that's true. Even though I still feel the need to point out that some, just want what's best for people and fell into the wrong crowd. It's sad, but brainwashing and taking sides is way more common than people think. Even me, if someone show's me hard evidence, no matter how often I ask for it, it's still massively difficult for me to think I'm wrong. It's the human condition. But yeah, those people that I fall under the generalization, which is most of them, fuck them.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 06:30 AM
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This is actually really true. While I don't think most people here are afraid of women, when all you read all day long is how women falsely accuse men of rape, it warps your mind. Just like when society tells you that men are all aggressive sexual deviates, it warps your mind. I assume this is a young person, trying to find their way in life, they do deserve compassion, though I doubt they'd take it. People believe what they want to, not what is true. No matter what studies say what, you can alw…
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:47 AM
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When someone says "gendered bullying" personally I think of sexist bullying, I.e. Male vs female. So if you could explain to me how two girls getting into a fight equals "gendered bullying" I would like to learn your point of view. For real, I'm not trying to be sarcastic, it's hard to get that across over text so I usually say it twice. I would just like to try to understand somebody else's view without name calling or anything like that please. Edit: Fudge, I just looked to see that this was t…
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:29 AM
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The way they're reacting is SJW. That's just how most of them act. Not to mention most of them consider themselves "skeptics" and "intellectuals" and what not, most have most likely quoted Dawkins when talking about how bad religion treats women. So to hear that someone intelligent think's they're not, it causes the human brain to do weird things. Plus it's not like SJW are actually empathetic or compassionate, most are just brainwashed and I'm making sweeping generalizations, and still these pe…
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:24 AM
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I don't understand your original statement. The first three things you point out have nothing to do with gender and as far as I know havn't ever been discussed in any studies that I've read. People tend to do there best in court if they're that kind of person, and people tend to be assholes in court if that's the kind of person they are. The last two things you point out, the fact that men commit more crimes and are often worse crimes is just false. I would be really interested in where you "lea…
/r/MensRights25/05/13 01:38 AM
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I would tell someone with a history of sexual abuse that if they cannot decide whether they want to have sex or not than they should just not have sex instead of pushing their problems onto someone else. I have a history of sexual abuse and false allegations, and seeing things like this and having people like you(You're not a bad person but you want to take responsibility away from someone because you feel bad, without considering the other people this affects) defend things like is one of the r…
/r/MensRights25/05/13 01:26 AM
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So does her evidence change your view on anything at all? It does seem like you've based your views on things you've been told all your life that just aren't true and how you felt about things other than facts. So being shown evidence that would be contrary to your world view, does that change anything for you?
/r/MensRights24/05/13 04:02 AM
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I would like to hear your proof that not only do men benefit from other men holding authority but that they do it at the expense of women, which would be much more in line with patriarchy theory. I'm not sure it would change my mind but if it was actual compelling evidence with verifiable sources then it would at least be interesting to read and learn. Also Op doesn't admit to institutional power, he simply used the same logic that is given for "the Patriarchy" to prove that by the same standard…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 03:53 AM
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Which statistic and how is it fucked up?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:45 AM
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Yo for real though how would enthusiastic consent work if it's a dog fucking a woman?
/r/MensRights17/05/13 11:46 PM
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Nah that would never happen. Like if someone asked a woman to have some coffee with him in an elevator or anything people know that's not harassment and wouldn't do anything.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 08:14 PM
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That's true but I tried to look up video's of where they the media did this and I'm coming up short. I'm not disagreeing with but if you could find anywhere the media was really focusing on how good these boy's were or whatever it is that was claimed I'd like to see them. To me that just seemed like a big woozle where one person felt they were doing that because of the "low" sentence they received and then everyone else just started saying it. Just because a lot of people claim something doesn't…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:40 PM
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I think you're making a false equivalency there. Most people here hate "feminism" not women. "feminism' doesn't equal women in any way, shape or form.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:35 PM
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I just want to point out that MRA's don't discriminate against women in anyway. In fact quite frankly people like GWW and Typhon blue and important to us because of how sexist society is against men, we need women to voice our opinions for us. Thank you though for trying to turn this message into something bad. If anyone is a woman then I encourage them to talk to anyone here about the problems their dealing with. While there might be better subreddits for woman to do this(many more subreddits) …
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:32 PM
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They're already not treating it as if it was man who did this. They're actually coming to her defense stating all the good things she's done, making her look exemplary(which she might have been except you know the alleged rape). The point is men are never treated like this. Benefit of the doubt is already given and literally just having unbiased coverage is something a male accused rapist would most likely never get. I'd be surprised if you could find a similar article about a male teacher who a…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 09:39 AM
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I would accept it more if they could actually back out what they're saying with more than woozles. People have been told that women get blamed for rape for wearing the wrong clothes. So idiot men have said that, but in court where it counts when has an alleged rapist's lawyer ever stated "she dressed like a slut and thus my client raped her" and then the judge just banged his gavel and let him go. I mean honestly, never happened. I just don't understand why people say shit like this so often
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:07 AM
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I see what you're saying about personal choices and what not but what about resources. What if this man had resources about abusive relationships and it was accepted in society that, with center's for men and other places men could get help, and counseling. Sure he's fallen into an abusive cycle but that's the thing that happens when someone has lived with abusive relationships their whole life. Maybe if he had help this wouldn't have happened. And this is only scratching the surface, you're bas…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:03 AM
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Do you support adding statistics that would help men recognize that may be being abused on the website? I understand how you might take offense to the line you quoted but now that that's been explained I would hope it makes sense on how it is just as important for men to recognize being abused as it is for women. Especially considering that society as a whole has not completely accepted the idea that any man can be abused or should seek help in those situations. Though personally I would ask for…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 07:38 AM
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God speed. I saw this last time you posted and I wish I could help but unfortunetly I have my own funding problems at the moment. I just hope you know that must people here would be there for you in a heartbeat if you need someone to talk to. Hopefully some of us can help you financially, I know it's a common tactic to draw these types of things out until you can no longer pay for you lawyer, and unfortunetly it works very well. I hope you look at other advice posts and take them to heart. You h…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 07:29 AM
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They're just an advocate thought right? Can they act as a lawyer during court cases for DV? They don't take sides during DV but just trying to accertain the truth and what's best for the child ( This is most likely the most difficult thing, most people take sides one way or the other, and most people pick women's side. I mean even the courts aren't suppose to take sides but we all know the truth in that. Thought I imagine that have two layers would make it slightly easier to be more impartial an…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 07:23 AM
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I'm sorry can you explain more about Guardian Ad Litems. That sounds like an amazing resource I've never heard of. Who do they get by if they're pro bono? What agency do they work under? Why don't more people know about this? This seems like an effective way to fight against false claims and I've never heard of it before. Most of the time things are just drug out until the man doesn't have enough to pay his lawyer, or he takes a plea deal and pays for everything plus loses a lot. If these people…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 07:00 AM
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NAFALT! Wait what does NOW stand for again? That's got to be a fringe group right and just totally not what "feminism" is all about. Patriarchy and all that jazz.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:45 AM
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You are very right. Hopefully. It's an incredibly slow process and until we become a big enough movement to actually have paid lobbyist fighting for changes in laws than shaming society isn't going to work that well. Society just does not care about men. Slowly it will work, and I mean slowly. The MRM has been around for over 30 years and I'm sure people go the idea before that, that something might be wrong. So for us to just be here today is a sad fact, society just does not give two shits abo…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:42 AM
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply it was IMPOSSIBLE to win. Just very unlikely and incredibly hard. The best he could hope for is that no false claims actually make it to charges and even that would be incredibly difficult. Lawyer don't usually take on cases they know hold no financial gain for them. There is none here, just a lot of loss on his part, if he loses against any of the claims against him he will have to pay, his lawyer, her "free(but very expensive when they win the case)" lawyer, p…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:36 AM
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Aw, while we all do we all have a different perception that each other so in reality we all live in quite different worlds. If your world is defined by what you believe and your actions are thus so created, then what does it mean when you believe what you want too and not what is true. Does it even matter what is real at that point? If everyone told you 2+2=7 your entire life than all your actions would be based on that wrong assumptions, and if your entire life you were told that women could do…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:05 AM
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I thought you actually disagreed with me until the end of your post. Yes I completely agree, and while they did take the exact same set of oaths, they unfortunately follow a very different set of laws and standards. This is all without mention of these nice special "privilege" they're all being given now. While a handful of people might be lobbying for women to be held to the same standards of men, a much, much, much, pretend I say much for the next 40 fucking lines so I get my point across, are…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:00 AM
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I agree with what you're saying but I think you're missing the bigger picture. How much power these women/people( I suppose though most women) hold over random men they have never met is absurd. The fact that with your personal information they could ruin your entire life without a lick of repercussion is just amazing to me. I mean that's basically what "male privilege" is, just being lucky that any random woman doesn't ruin your entire life for shits and giggles. So go ahead and disagree with t…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:47 AM
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Using logic to show how horrible some women are is not only "harassment" but also a common for of abuse. So yeah there's that. (I almost used people instead of women but please, let's be realistic.)
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:34 AM
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Indeed, but some women are gonna damsel. I would bet most are, because that's what they're taught. Maybe you just got lucky and happen to live surrounded by good women that wouldn't do immoral things for personal gain, but unfortunately I live in the real world. The world where quite a few PEOPLE are bad, and do bad things because it benefits them, or it makes them feel better. Double unfortunately because society cares a lot more about what happens to women than men.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:31 AM
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You also have to post a lot of personal information, thus giving those who are making false claims a lot of information that can be used against you. It's just great when these people call your job and tell your employer your a rapist or pedophile as well as making sites dedicated to ruining your life simply for holding that radical view that maybe some things in society disadvantage men. We all know men's rights = fucking little kids and really how many employers have the courage to stand up to…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:29 AM
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Well good thing we have that male privilege. We can use recorded conversations to prove we aren't abusive pricks(sometimes, it still gets thrown out sometimes) but god forbid we you know punish the women committing this kind of crime. That would just you know, not make any sense.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:20 AM
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Good luck getting a lawyer to represent you if that's the route he decides to take and even more luck is needed to find a prosecutor that would actually do their job and take the case. Just because people say the VAMA is extended to men too, that's rarely the case and these laws are in place to mainly benefit women and protect them from these situations(which is a good thing, though it would be better if everyone was protected). I mean there is a reason it's call the Violence against WOMEN act. …
/r/MensRights14/05/13 05:18 AM
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I don't get it. I mean I know it's not his choice whether she had the abortion or not but are men not even allowed to have feelings on the subject? That he could have had a child, even wanted a child with this woman, but because she didn't want one he can't feel anything or say anything? I thought feelings were important, I thought understanding people was important? Fine maybe him saying these things upset her, and maybe she didn't have a say in how he felt but apparently he didn't have a say i…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:58 AM
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Percentage wise maybe, but if we're counting it by the number of people then I highly doubt it. Percentages of people who graduate college represents a much larger number of people than those who work in STEM fields. Gotta compare apples to apples.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:45 AM
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Check your privilege, being falsely outed as a pedophile 1. never happens and 2. doesn't hurt you because of all the bonuses you've been given because of your penis. Plus all men are pedophiles because we have no control over ourselves and are just sex monsters because of testosterone which no womyn has. ( I realize that posts like this don't help too much but it's just sad to me that a lot of "feminists" not only think like this but it's actually taught in schools as a degree and that's why occ…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:30 AM
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Honestly I like the more real problem here is that while male soldiers are seen strictly as military property and what not, female soldiers get a lot more wiggle room. This comes down to a lot of the lobbying that's been done on their behalf(rightfully so most of the time, a woman's body is her own). If women in the military were "made" to take birth control we would see a lot of angry "feminists" and those that follow similar lines of thought because they believe that women shouldn't be treated…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:19 AM
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Yeah as far as I've read the military is actively making it easier for people to make false claims because of all the flack they are getting. Changing due process doesn't help anybody except the people who make money off of this kind of stuff. It's really sad that even when there are studies against what the mainstream claims is true it doesn't change anything. People will believe what they are told, as long as it's said enough times or if they're shamed into it. Fucking sad.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:16 AM
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I don't get it. It makes sense that it might not be reputable news source, similar to the dailymail and other news sources that are crazy bias. If you looked at the source of they used though, why not make a case against the source then? It's important to recognize things like this but considering that most mainstream news sources simply won't report on things that go against the "feminist" viewpoint then I don't see how those places are any better to get information from. If the sources are the…
/r/MensRights14/05/13 04:12 AM
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I don't understand how that matters. If she was saving money or had to spend her money on something the child needed and then got child support it doesn't mean she should spend it on anything but the child. You're actually making excuses for her doing this. Reverse what you're saying, why doesn't she use the child support on the child and then use her own money on herself. I think he post makes it clear that this isn't what she did. Either way you're doing something that you'd most likely be aga…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:31 AM
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I don't understand why either of those things matter. I thought child support was for the child. It doesn't matter if she's "filling in gaps" that's what parents do. The court never said, "well if he doesn't pay for a little while then you feel free to go ahead and blow some of the money on yourself because this man is here to take care of not only the child, but you also." It's like someone getting food stamps and then using it on a manicure(which obviously you can't do because that's not what …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:24 AM
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You're right it is a huge problem. I can see that, you can see that, reasonable people can see that, but for some reason society as a whole has decided to have a bias against men and not just that but there are actual legal precedents that hurt male's who fall victim to any kind of predator behavior whether it be from other males or women. This is what I would use the actual definition of "rape culture" but it just seems pointless. Just because something is true doesn't mean anyone cares. Unless…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:14 AM
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Now why would they think it was unwise for him to testify. I'm sure societies few that any woman that says she abused is actually abused and the bias that men face in these situations had no bearing on their descion. They couldn't have thought that seeing the man and judging his physical appearance and any other biases that society uses to systematically discriminate against men had no bearing on their choice not to put him on the stand. (This isn't really directed at you, more of a in general t…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:02 AM
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Why do you think "feminists" have such wiggle room in defining what words mean. It's always been kind of weird to me that they're allowed to change things and switch everything around to fit their needs and most people just allow them to do it. It's not logical and it's not intellectual, it's bias and most of the time quite sexist. Why is the question though, why do they have the sole power to define everything and "we" have to allow them to do it or else face shaming or other negative consequen…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:48 AM
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I've just given the website a cursory glance but it seems very interesting. I am rather concerned about not holding beliefs that aren't true. It'd be lying if I tried to pretend like I'm the most open minded person but at least I try, if someone can show me evidence, I like to think I will at least consider it. I've seen too many people in my life that simple hold their world view because it's what they've always believed and it would challenge too many thoughts to accept any new facts that they…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:40 AM
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Well it's true. Instead of asking women to do anything we need to teach boys to do whatever they're told. I mean come on guy's what's so wrong with that? Men need to take responsibility for everything and women need to be able to do whatever they want. This goes further than just clothes, This logic is just infallible. Men should be able to be shamed into anything and be able to be blamed for everything. I doubt men's sexuality is actually the reason dress codes exist but it sounds good to go ah…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:29 AM
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You know part of me sits here and goes "Wage gap? Is this still a thing they're claiming." It's been so thoroughly debunked that it's just nuts that people like the president of the United States actually says it. I feel like I'm hallucinating when I hear that we're still introducing bills aimed at closing the "pay gap" or hearing "feminists" blame the "patriarchy" for the "wage gap." Any sentence that needs that many quotation marks is just ridiculous. It really shows how little mainstream soci…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:21 AM
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There are two schools of thought on this as far as I can tell. Either he can go to the police/school/ any kind of authority and try to per-empt his innocence and try to compile and evidence that he hasn't done anything wrong. Of course the authority could just take him coming forward as an admission of guilt and force the girl to actually go to the authority with her story and if he doesn't have strong, super strong evidence that he didn't actually do anything(and we all know how easy proving a …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:13 AM
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It's sad but most men don't care about thing's like the MRM until all of sudden they're smack dab in the middle of being screwed by the justice system. Quite a few MRM activists have stated that while they acknowledge that courts were slanted toward women, most didn't care because of what they had been told all their lives about women being oppressed and what not. It isn't until someone is a victim of this kind of discrimination that they think something is wrong. It's crazy, it reminds me of th…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:12 AM
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That's really what's upsetting I think. It's just the blaring double standard and how you can't ever point it out. While I agree that anything can be used for comedic purposes(that doesn't mean it will actually be funny but they can try) but these people who claim how women are non stop objectified and blah blah blah who don't even take the time to see that the same tropes they claim objectify women are used to objectify men too. It just goes to show how little society cares about men and how fa…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:59 AM
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No my sister does the same thing. Even worse is if she's making a lot of money from the child support and the man changes jobs and tries to lower the support. It just happened to my sister, who usually spends all the 2k she gets from her ex-husband and trips to the key west or tv's or just spending money on her new boyfriend, but her ex-husband just left the military and is making much less money now and wen to court and actually changed his payment amount so now she's gone to a women's center a…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:53 AM
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That's your experience. My experience with one of my abusive girlfriend and one of the worst is where I get knives thrown at me, she tried to rip my ears off my head while I was trying to distance myself from her and call the police which caused very obvious cuts and bleeding. I actually had to go to the hospital eventually because she pulled so hard. When I actually called the police I tried to wait outside and she stole my car keys, while she's drunk and actually clips me with my own car while…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:47 AM
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I think the problem is that there isn't enough players to be able to have multiple teams and thus a woman's rightful place on a team is being taken by a male player because during tryout's he's better and earns his place on the team. It's all good and well that women don't have to try out to be on men's teams and title XI guarantees them a spot but when the flip side is not only true but the male is a better player than most of the females then it's just unfair. It really does show that society …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:38 AM
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Stop spilling your bio-truths here mate, we all know that women are just a physically capable as men and there is no difference in skill level or physical level and I don't need your mansplaining saying any different. Women can not only do everything men can do but they can do it better(at least the president says so and most people agree) so ipso facto there is no way a male joining a females team would be in anyway unfair to anyone. (Yes I've invoked Poe's law and yes this is sarcastic but unf…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:33 AM
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Great paid leave for raping a young man. Allegedly locking the door and forcing him to have sex acts done on him but because he's a man it's not a big deal. I wonder who else she did this too, if any man would come forward after seeing how this boy is being treated and mocked. I like how they focus on how the boy is 18 and not the fact that she allegedly locked him in the room against his will and forced him into sex. I guess rape shield laws and rights are only for women, glad to see all these …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:30 AM
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It doesn't work like that because if the woman is drunk then we all know they cannot consent to sex. Even if they drank, even if they bought their own drinks, even if the women got the man drunk. It's a huge case of hypoagency that takes all responsibility away from women and places it on men. I'm not talking about actual rapists that drug people or look for blackout girls to have sex with, it comes down to women who openly consent to sex with a man while they are partying and then regret it in …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:11 AM
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It's actually even worse than that. I believe in one of the survey's that came to the 1 in 5 women have been raped conclusion included things like "Have you ever had sex with someone to make them happy and not because you wanted too". Like if your boyfriend wanted sex and you had a headache but still went ahead and had sex with him because it seemed like a nice thing to do. Well that's rape. It's crazy things like that. GWW speaks a lot about for most "feminist" stats are slanted in crazy ways. …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:07 AM
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It doesn't. These statements don't even take into account that women already only do 40% of the jail time as women, but women specifically need to have more options than prison. They admit that prison doesn't help anyone but they only want women to have these other options. Personally I believe it's because quite a few business would lose a lot of money if they didn't have the crazy cheap male labor they get from male prisoners but it just goes to show you that society is openly sexist against m…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:58 AM
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I know you're being sarcastic but if you think about it, these women actually use that as their defense. Like they openly say "but I have children so I can't go to jail, my place is at home taking care of my children and someone else(possibly the children's father) would have to take care of them and that can't happen because they are my children and they need me even though I'm a criminal and committed this crime knowing I had children at home". It's their actual defense not to get jail time so…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:54 AM
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I just want to clarify what nicemod might have meant, though honestly I'm not them and I'm actually just speaking for myself. Of course these people aren't a "hate group", they are trying to provide a valuable service that is needed in society and in general their hearts might be in the right place. The problem is that line of thought in believing women are mostly victims and men are mostly aggressors is a "hateful" view point so while calling them a "hate group" is pretty much over kill you can…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:43 AM
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There really isn't that much grey area. Either you basically believe in "patriarchy" and blame men for most of the problems in society or you believe that women are equal to men and should have the same opportunities and responsibilities, in which case most MRA would be considered "feminists". Unfortunately modern academia leans toward "patriarchy feminism" which is a hateful and sexist dogma and that is why this man is in this situation. I mean its a LGBT center but it's painfully obvious that …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:36 AM
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Well it takes a special kind of person to keep their eyes closed to actually state something like that. It's not like most of the violent crimes that happen are directed toward men and women in general have much less to fear at night than men. Of course we all need to take steps to protect ourselves but women are so much more important to society that a man getting murdered isn't as important as someone asking another adult to have coffee in their room(asking).
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:31 AM
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This is true but it's not like challenging the opinions of those in power are without consequences. Unfortunately in this world if you show any kind of sympathy toward men's situation very bad things can happen to you. All kinds of slander campaigns and terrible things can happen just because you believe in the radical notion that men might need some help too. It's scary what those in power will do in order to be able to keep their terrible sexist/racist opinions. People need to weigh what they …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:28 AM
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Does anybody have any more specifics on the bill she's introdocing? She does say the bill is suppose to protect MEN and women but they said the same thing about VAMA and primary aggressor laws. I think if they're trying to do away with due process then obviously it's a terrible bill and I think they're looking at a very narrow view or things and while they do add men in their it sounds like the same way "feminism helps men too" type thing. I think more information is needed and I have a funny fe…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:22 AM
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No.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 08:55 PM
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While it's very sad what you're going through and sole custody might seem like the only option now, just take note that 5 months isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. I don't know this guy and obviously from what you said, your child is most likely better off without him but people change and again 5 months isn't that long to base a life long choice off of. There are plenty of reasons why your child's father is acting like this, that doesn't excuse his behavior but one day he might take…
/r/MensRights11/05/13 08:54 PM
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What a load, the emperor outlier doesn't give men more collective power. You really think a disposable male servant is as valued to the emperor as a member of his harem? It is if you treat it as a zero sum situation. IF OP was claiming that men had it shitty and women had it awesome than yes that would disprove that claim. Fortunately this isn't what OP claimed at all so it's kind of pointless to throw that in, though pointing out that the 80/40 might be a woozle is a pretty important fact. I fo…
/r/MensRights11/05/13 08:29 PM
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Definitely be careful putting you name to pieces of work like this. While like you said "open minded" people can see the value in the points you bring up and decent people are open to different points of view, not everyone is like that. I'm willing to bet that not even most people are like that, a lot of people don't like their world views challenged. We've seen what can happen to people who openly support Men's Right's so just be careful and be sure of what you're doing. Unfortunately bad thing…
/r/MensRights11/05/13 08:17 PM
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People would ignore one or the other cause because it conflicts with whatever agenda they're trying to push. Usually it's done under the claim "well so and so is worse and therefor where all resources should be put towards" which is obviously absurd. It cuts both ways and while I have my feelings on it, both causes obviously need to be addressed for us to create a much more progressive society. Some people like to play a zero sum game and it's just not.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 07:22 PM
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Ok I'm not sure if I'm just not explain it right or what so while I get what you're saying, and the other comments are saying, and yeah in that situation I agree women shouldn't be treated like children and all that. That does make sense and I get it But I do not see what that has to do with what happened here. People add "including women and children" because those deaths are the one's that make what happened "even worse", Giving women's , and children's lives more value than any man's. So how …
/r/MensRights03/05/13 09:43 PM
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But how does basically saying "A bunch of men died but the real tragedy is that a few women and children died, that is what you should feel bad about the women and children, not the men" make them the weaker sex?
/r/MensRights03/05/13 07:03 AM
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Yeah but how is that a bad thing? It's basically saying their more important than men and as important as children. They're not being treated as children so I don't see how "it hurts both genders". Gender stereotyping can hurt both genders but in this situation it doesn't.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 04:47 AM
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I get what you're saying I just don't agree. When did the MRA have the ability to change or stop anything. Most people still look at the group like it's a hate group or at best a bunch of middle class white men who think life is too hard, neither is true, both is a direct result of "feminism". While I agree we do need to try something, I don't think we've done anything at all remotely similar to what you call radfems and I call "feminists". We try for debates, get slandered, try leaving them alo…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:26 AM
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I think that's just making excuses for someone's behavior by putting blame on another group. Fact is that's exactly what you've been conditioned to do since birth. No modern feminism being crazy and doing terrible shit is because they are bad people who think they are good people. MRA's unfortunately have no power and have been discredited at every step and part of that is because we simply wont play there games. Yeah sometimes you see satire and parodies but that's far and in between, it's usua…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:03 AM
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Well you seem relatively reasonable so you want to get the word play out of the way so we can get down to business. Well ok consider that most words that have been created for "gender studies" esque discussions have multi meaning that's going to be rather hard. Here is the thing though, most people here have felt the wrath or "feminism" and while you most likely had good intentions, the fact of the matter is if judged by their actions, "feminism" and those holding the banner of "feminists" have …
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:34 AM
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What are you thoughts on the "patriachy" considering it is the core foundation of "feminism". Also, why do you get to define "feminism" and everyone else is wrong. Why do you think linking webster means anything, as a basic definition yes feminism is about women's rights. On the surface that might be mildly true but to sum up such a complex ideology in a simple sentence is just so horribly misleading. I'll leave it at that, I disagree with you but I'm more interesting in what you think of "the P…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:06 AM
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As a matter a fact I do believe women's rights are human rights. Let me double check that though. Ok yup I'm sure, women's rights are indeed important and are indeed human rights.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 09:21 AM
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Oink?
/r/MensRights20/04/13 11:37 PM
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Nah some shitty blogger that liked to talk about how all men should be castrated and all men are rapists, etc. was apparently doxxed by AVFM. I can't find much information other than it's since been taken down and wasn't up that long. Honestly you can only find references to it in "feminist" blogs so I take what they have to say with a grain of salt. Still, it's a pretty shitty to do but alas we are all humans and fortunately making a mistake does not somehow invalidate all the other good things…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 11:34 PM
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I like the edit they put. I just don't understand the cognitive dissonance that is needed to say things like that. Basically what I took away from the edit is They don't think all the people in /MR are ok with /BW(which is almost the exact opposite of what the originally said) but that all the people in /MR are just as bad as /BW and we hate all women and blah blah blah. It's like the "feminism" works on men's right issues too thing. People say something and then with the next breath prove the e…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 11:25 PM
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So a voice for men is all encompassing of the MRM? If they make a mistake and dox someone then anyone anywhere can never claim that due process is needed and jumping to conclusions is wrong? You're getting downvoted because what you're saying doesn't have any value. Yeah from what I've googled about A voice for Men doxxing someone, it seems like a pretty shitty thing to do. Even if that person was a shitty person, still not right to just go releasing names willy nilly. I think most people would …
/r/MensRights20/04/13 05:46 AM
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Indeed, you put it much better than I did. It's hard to try to explain something like this too most people. Me believing because I'm bias though, what I meant though I don't know if that honestly makes it better, is that at first glance it seems to make sense and I don't feel I need to do anymore digging. I should do more digging and learn the methodology and what not but I don't think anything too wild is being said so I take it at face value. That said, Ideally, we should all double check ever…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 09:22 AM
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Because statistics are bullshit. I could literally go out and find a statistic that said anything I wanted. It's all about how people arrived at the number. How did they get 86% of something they can't possibly know. Now there are of course ways to make educated guesses, though it's usually better to just go ahead and write that out for what it is, a guess. Unfortunetly people pick and choose which stats they want to believe and just run with it, that's basically the reason "feminism" is still a…
/r/MensRights19/04/13 06:48 AM
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well you seem capable in having a rational conversation. you haven't called me a rapist. Seem open to different points of view and gathering information. You haven't even said because patriarchy yet. That's it I think we should have a political marriage, end the genders wars right now, Grapbeban, will you do me that honor of being my husband.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:16 PM
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I got back on to check what hizzle happend but I'm in space land right now I'll have to get back to you. From what I'm understand it's looking like there could be some fucking middle ground here. Jesus I feel like that man that walked on the. "This is one small step for men and women's rights and one large leap for humanity. Like I said though, I didn't really read most of what you put so you could just be calling me an asshole over and over in the second half. Anyway I'm really done this time a…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:03 PM
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Ok I'm really feeling my sleeping pills and I've answered 3 other comments already so this is my last one and I'll make it quick, if you don't it then I stand by my statement that you but have terrible reading comprehension. Rape is worse than murder, because you have to live with the pain and blah blah blah. The difference between the pain of rape and the pain of murder is simply that with rape it robs you of the rest of your life. Rest of your life, as in it will never get better, nothing can …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 05:08 PM
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You're fun, I like you. I could really work with this. You weren't unduly hostile, you turned my joke into a joke. Man I think I'm actually happy that someone is almost disagreeing with me. I just took my sleeping pills so I can't go into full detail but here's what I got right now. No source for that at the moment, it might be in the sidebar, a little googling might find it, if anything I'll grab it later. Two. Prye actually does give the numbers of male suicides in comparison to females Tres I…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:59 PM
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You'd be surprised. Look at places like Norway and Sweden. Really if this is the direction we keep heading in, by the time it gets to that men won't really have any power to stop it. They're actually telling men how to sit on the subway in Sweden and trying to get them to sit down to pee. I know it's obviously something that most likely won't happen, at least I hope, but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities in the future. A few years ago it would've seemed insane for men to be ab…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:26 PM
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What you don't believe in using an ever changing definition of "patriarchy" as way to absolve women of any responsibility while maintains your ever present status as a victim so that when you're wrong it doesn't matter because it was someone mansplaining their logic and facts to you and you just can't believe anything you don't agree with could ever be true no matter how many studies come out against it. Or how you're working on the same side of MRM while degrading male rape victims by actively …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:22 PM
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I'm just curious why instead of commenting on any of the well formed, well thought out comments in this thread, you pick the one commenter that makes an ass of himself. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Your not really saying anything crazy, this time at least, yes women are people, yes that was a terribly generalization. Why not respond to my comment about logic and reason being the enemy of female privilege? It's not like you really have a dissenting opinion, you're more just being unnecess…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:18 PM
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LMAO, damn it. Time to copy and paste I guess. Thank you replying to me or I would've sat here for an hour going "Man fucking Erin Pizzey ignoring me and stuff, I mean come on I'm the only question there'.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:06 PM
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We joke about this stuff but eventually they're going to instate forced marriages if enough people refuse to get married. That isn't even a joke, a lot of countries economy is based on the family unit and we know how adaptable our economy is.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:05 PM
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Hi, first I would just like to say that I am obviously an absolute fan of you work and have learned quite a bit from you. My question is about something I was reading about earlier on here. Many of us here have at point or another consider ourselves feminists but because of terrible experience with modern feminists we ended up doing more research into the MRM and while most people don't actually stop being feminists, they understand that simply believing that woman are equals to men and working …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:02 PM
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You would think that it's pretty obvious that it's a bad thing that they're doing. Even with my beliefs I think that any and all acceptance of rape needs to be changed as soon as possible. It's not that hard of concept to grasp, I like to think anyone who believes in equality would agree with this. I would like to think it but it's apparently just insane for people to understand. I liken it to gay marriage almost. People are just against it because they learned to be against it and they'll teach…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:45 PM
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I literally have never heard of this, researched this, or anything but I would like to give my opinion on the matter anyway. This sounds amazing, most things that sound amazing to me are usually scams though. Again I have no idea but before you give anybody any money, definitely do as much research as possible. Obviously that's why you're here and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I will be able to help you. Always be careful if it's something you can't get done in your country, there ar…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:42 PM
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In all honesty I was trying to understand what they were saying. I'm still holding out hope that they actually had some points that they disagreed with and solid reasoning behind them. I'm apparently a weird person because I'm open to changing my views. Understanding a new view point of something usually doesn't shatter my whole world and it helps me have a more encompassing understanding of things. I don't understand people sometimes though. I get what you're saying and that's most likely what …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:37 PM
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Honestly man, my whole body shut down. I was at one of my "friends" house when all this shit happened. I was basically berated for an hour and then I had to site in a corner for the next few hours as people would walk by and tell me what a scumbag I was while I was just trying to get a ride as far away as possible. Honestly thinking back on, I obviously should've called 911 or something but at the time I was just having a panic attack and trying to breath. It was pretty shitty. The only reason I…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:09 PM
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I too don't get the point. You sure share this secret explanation of what this has to do with men's rights? Did you buy into that lie that all we want is to be able to hit women? I'll enlighten you, we're not actually interesting in hitting women, most people here are actually none violent. Mostly what we want is to have people stop hitting us. If you had a video of two people not hitting each other it would be more relevant here. I just don't get the point of this. At least I don't get it in re…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:00 PM
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How would they realistically do the stats. I have a feeling if the put down true stats in comparison to the male players, there would be a huge tirade of people saying "EA hates women, makes them weaker than men in video game". EA is also the most hated company in video games. If they don't think they'd get a return on their money they wont do it. Maybe you're right, if another company did, they might, if that company made money. I honestly don't see a big deal but it just comes down to putting …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:57 PM
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So do they actually take male survivors or is it just like "feminism" is "working" on men's rights issues.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:50 PM
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Thank you, I've been looking for this for ages. No "feminist" ever believes me when I tell them that the term rape culture actually started because of prison rape. Man this is a great resource to have. I cannot believe how often I hear this term, and how often it's used to exclusively deny male rape/prison rape when in reality this is just a term co-pted my "feminists" to help there dogma and agenda along. Can't believe what a good thing started as and how terribly it is used to day. I doubt thi…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:46 PM
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Indeed, the few times I've gotten "feminists" to admit that this is "rape culture", the next sentence out of there mouth is how it's not as important as female "rape culture". It is just insane. Not to play oppression olympics because of course all acceptance of rape is a terrible thing, but male rape culture" trumps hugely over any kind of female "rape culture" that happens. Our society is decidedly against female rape and while some small instances can be brought up that might be examples, to …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:41 PM
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You know, that's a fair enough assertion. I believe one of the points they made was that everyone calling a woman a whore can make a rapist think it'll be easier to rape her. I conceded that point. I don't think "slut shaming" isn't a problem, it can be, but to say that is a bigger part of rape culture" that there being no definition for male rape, men being mocked constantly whenever a male rape is reported, and that society actually openly condones prison rape, it's just an ignorant view point…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:34 PM
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Was there any more correspondence between you two? I would be interested in seeing if she ever brought up a good point on why it is ok to marginalize people who have been falsely accused. I think the responses you got basically sum up most people response, on the more reasonable end. At least she tried to use some sources to back her up own bigoted views. Apparently that's more than most people get, though I doubt if she had simply replied back "quite mansplaining your facts to me" wouldn't have…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:28 PM
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Man I'm sorry. That sounds absolutely terrible. Something similar happened to me where a bunch of women jumped on me and started screaming that I was a "victim blamer" because I suggested that people should take steps to protect themselves. Back then I considered myself a "feminist" because I assumed that meant holding a belief that women should be treated as equals to men and that they were the same, could do the same things, have the same responsibilities, and are just no better and definitely…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:13 PM
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Logic and reason, the enemy of female privilege. It's nice that in the original article they author didn't point out the women already serve 40% of the time that men do when the same crime and criminal history is taken into account. Much less time is served for first time female offenders. So not only do they already "suffer" from a nice privilege, they think they deserve more.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 12:46 PM
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Again it seems like people treat asking for sources as like an "I gotcha" moment when in reality it's just something that can be easily checked and verified but that is just too much effort for most people and they are content with thinking asking for sources is the same thing as proving someone wrong. If they were truly interested in sources, they would find them.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 12:03 PM
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There are plenty of myths about female circumcision being healthy, mostly based in religion. Actually from what I've read they are strikingly similar to male circumcision. Of course we would call that bullshit, why do you view the bullshit reasons for male circumcision differently. That's more of a question to ask yourself. It doesn't seem like you have very good reasons to agree with male circumcision but it still doesn't bother you, while female circumcision is obviously a bad thing. Maybe you…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 12:01 PM
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I think some places it's already down to 1-2 years so yeah it's already plummeting. Soon it'll just be that buying a woman flowers equals a marriage contract.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 10:46 AM
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That made him homeless.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 10:43 AM
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Like for realsies? That thought honestly popped into your head? And then you thought it was a good idea to post it only? Nowhere in there did you stop and think how crazy it sounds?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 09:04 AM
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Because the people in prison are not white girls and because the people in prison are criminals. Both of those things basically mean that society just does not give a fuck about them. It's funny because the only "rape culture" that exists in the western world is how ok people are with prison rape. As if we use it as a crime deterrent. "well if they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't have committed a crime". Most people don't look at what a complex issue this is and don't even acknowledge t…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 08:58 AM
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I don't know where you live but be careful of commonlaw marriages. It's pretty much the thing that screws men over that are decidedly against marriage, it gives women all of the benefits of marriage and you have consent over it. No paperwork is signed, nothing. If you live with a woman too long that's about it, so if you are not willing to take the gamble(that's the wrong word, you can win in gambling, there is no winning in marriage, just breaking even.) and get marry be sure to brush up on the…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 08:39 AM
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Understanding and point out he flaw in someone's logic by taking the statement to it's obvious conclusion is bad reading comprehension? It actually shows that OP completely understood what the guy was saying and pointed out just how illogical and ignorant that statement was. Of course you're just trying to insult him so I'll let you have your ignorant views too. Hope one day you stop spending so much time closing your mind and instead start to learn and grow yourself as a person. That much hate …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 08:04 AM
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If rape is worse than murder and because they have to live afterwards with all that pain afterwards then effectively killing them would be better for them than letting them live. That actually is what the person is saying, the rapist should've just killed them. Of course that doesn't make any sense, and by saying that it's suppose to point out just how stupid what the guy is saying actually is. I doubt he actually supports that and is instead just regurgitating what one of his ignorant, warped f…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 08:01 AM
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Well I like to think the best of some people. I guess I fall into that trap where when a group says it's working to prevent things like this, that they're actually working on it. I know it's bullshit but I like to think somewhere there is a "feminist" that had a flash of sobriety and went "womyn this is pretty fucked up, maybe we shouldn't be treated like frail, helpless creatures and instead like empowered adults that we are". Wishful thinking right?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:54 AM
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Yeah that's kind of what I figured. Usually society would deal with something like this by boycotting the establishments but like you said sexism towards men is just so widely accepted that most men don't even understand why this would be wrong, or they just don't care. It really goes to show you how downtrodden men have become. This also does absolutely nothing to stop the perpetuation that women are fragile creatures that can't protect themselves and are just utterly helpless. I'm really surpr…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:49 AM
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You know all of people are just going too look at this and instead of actually admitting that there is an epidemic(at the very least a lot of) false rape claims, they are going to say that this is just rape culture and all of those men just got away with rape. When people want to believe something hard enough, they're going to believe it no matter anyone says. Also I usually hear the 2% line about false accusations, which we all know is just bullshit. If I am reading this correct 8.9% don't even…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:44 AM
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I get that property rights are important, very important actually. I wouldn't want anyone to tell me what to do with my men only orgy room at my house, but what other group of people need to have there own space like this? If an establishment had a "whites" only workout room because some of the white people were uncomfortable with "blacks" looking at them when they worked out, I'm pretty sure that would be illegal. If it isn't it's at least morally wrong. I'm not really seeing the difference her…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:30 AM
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Does anyone notice that when women do this everybody can hop on board. Like yeah that evil woman got what she deserved. That judge really showed her. If a male judge had acted like this toward a female plaintiff, a lot of people would've had a problem with it. Not just women, but a lot of guys see that and the white knight instinct kicks in and it's all talk about how he shouldn't have handled things like that, he was just being mean, what a pig he was, she didn't deserve that. I don't know, is …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:15 AM
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I know, it's a loaded question. There are a lot of good people out there that truly want equality for all people who happen to mislabel themselves as "feminists" and a lot of those people have legitimate problems with aspects of society that disadvantage women. Now a lot of them still parrot things like the wage gap myth and men being the primary aggressors in domestic violence and such but that is because as a society we have allowed modern "feminism" to lie and cheat their way to holding all t…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:03 AM
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It depends on how you define "feminist". Anything to do with the patriarchy is just crazy. It's honestly a hate movement if you ask me but since they hold all the power and sway of public opinion it's just sad what they do with it. Though if you're talking about people who believe in equality between genders than of course there are some good points. Women in developing countries have horrible disadvantages that need to be changed. Obviously women getting an education in places like this is of p…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:31 AM
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How many men commit suicide after they were falsely accused of rape and had their lives ruined?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:06 AM
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But only get rid of it against men and only unconditionally accept accusations when coming from women. Remember many prominent women's groups still protest things like rape by envelopment or anything that could remotely affect the privilege they have. It's important to assume women would never lie as it is equally important to assume men are always lying.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:04 AM
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That's so unbelievably sad and yet not hard to believe that she wouldn't see her grandchildren simply because they have penises if she decides to surround herself with such a toxic dogma. I'm truly sorry for you and sorry that she doesn't know what she is missing and how little what she replaced her family is worth. Fun fact, many women actually fought against the suffrage movement because at the time it was believed that they would have to sign up for selective services if they got a vote. At t…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 06:01 AM
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I get that this is very important, and I think I commented on one of the threads but why did you post it so many times?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 05:18 AM
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See what you are saying makes sense. I believe that, you believe that, rational people believe that. Unfortunately not everyone is like that. Unfortunately there is a very large, very powerful group currently advocating that men's rights simply aren't as important as women's rights. Unfortunately these people are taken seriously and not seen as being sexist because of the system that they have put in place to put this. This is a very real problem that when people put forth ideas like this that t…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 05:16 AM
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Yeah this is most likely the right thing to do. But. Fuck this person right? I love freedom of expression and it is important to protect but man this person seems like a giant hateful cunt. Obviously doxxing people is wrong and it's important not to censor people and because of that I think it's important for me to throw in that ignorant bigoted sexists deserve to have their put forth like everyone else, and shown how wrong and horrible they are and how wrong and horrible the person most likely …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:58 AM
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I'm not sure, but it was someone that understood statistics very well. All that said, some statistics are indeed useful if it can be show that it was done truly unbiasedly and without an agenda attached. If it was done without coming to a conclusion before the study started and if it was done inclusively instead of exclusively. I find that a lot of the studies(not all) that most of the MRM uses are studies like these. That's honestly one of our biggest points is that we don't have decades of myt…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:52 AM
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LMAO, god I forgot what post I was responding too. Man, I must've sounded like a tool. I'm sorry, for my own confusion here. It seems like you're saying that while men aren't likely to listen at all, if they do listen to someone, it's more likely that they'll be a woman. Which I agree with but I really think that shows the sexism in our society, I honestly think it's more that most men just aren't interested in their own problems and have been told all their life how privileged they are and how …
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:46 AM
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http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-us/what-we-do/our-annual-publications-and-strategy/annual-report-and-accounts/ You didn't try very hard. I googled race for life finance report. Just saying, these things are easily found, not actually scouring through the information is a lot harder. Don't take things on face value and actually read into their investments and salaries/bonuses, it's actually pretty interesting. It's interesting what they consider donating to "research" is as well. Anyway, go…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:41 AM
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I believe I meant that anyone can go to google and search for statistics that have already been generated to fit whatever argument they want. Obviously for the statistics to be there in the first place someone had to create them.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:30 AM
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Did you mean MRM, I'm not aware of what MGM is except for Male Genital Mutilation and I don't know what that would have to do with anything I said. Also I don't know why you brought up mothers divorcing/threatening to divorce to protect their sons. Was it to maybe reinforce why men would be more willing to listen to when a woman says something? I completely agree that men are quite apathetic/antagonistic to the MRM and to other men in general. I think it's a much more complex issue than them lov…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:28 AM
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What are your views on female genital mutilation?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:13 AM
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It's unfortunate that a lot of the MRM expansion and acceptance has been due to having a lot women move to the forefront. It really mirrors how sexist our society is when if a man says something it's misogynist but if a woman says the exact same thing then it's ok to talk about. While I love things like GWW it's sad that we HAVE to have women as our sponsors to be taken even remotely seriously and yet I'm constantly told how men cannot talk about/understand the vast amounts of difficulties women…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 04:12 AM
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Humans in general are subject to cognitive bias but the fields themselves, I don't know. Are we talking science science or social sciences?
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:59 AM
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I think a lot of people would be surprised at how transphobic many "feminists" are. I know this event isn't run strictly by "feminists" but it's obvious that they're pulling from their dogma. Just thought I'd point that out, though it's not like there are any studies of this and I'm just pulling from personal experience and what I've seen in my life. So take it as you will.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:56 AM
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Something something because patriarchy.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:54 AM
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I would suggest you look up their released finance data if you think it's that unlikely. It's all public and on the internet, a little googling and you could find out for yourself. Then you could actually show people information and add to the conversation. While asking for sources is nice, you could easily find them. Often people seem to think pointing out that something isn't sourced is the same thing as proving it wrong. If you don't believe what the person said or just want to double check f…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:53 AM
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I would like to hear that. If you could give me some points you think refute that, then I think it would definitely add to the conversation and give me something to think about.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:11 AM
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That's one of the horrible things about statistics. A lot of people take them at face value without actually checking how the statistics were found, what questions were asked, what procedures were put in place, etc. You can find a statistic for almost anything, that doesn't make it true. Always double check sources and how people came to their conclusions. From my experience though, most of the studies MRM use tend to be some of the least bias one's I've seen. Of course some are obviously trying…
/r/MensRights14/04/13 03:02 AM
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Gotta love the standard NAFLT! I get it one of your friends is a "feminist" and she actually wants equality and is not crazy. It happens. Some people call themselves "feminists"but honestly they're not. Patriarchy theory is the core foundation and its bigoted and sexist theory at that. If they don't believe that men systematically oppress women and women cannot possibly have any privileged area of their life, then they are not by definition "feminists". If you really want to go through and list …
/r/MensRights13/04/13 09:48 AM
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Yes, but if you are only focused on one gender than why not call it something more accurate. Women's life Improvement Act would be much for accurate. Or "Merit only matters for Men act. Maybe "Less qualified women getting better jobs than they deserve act". Maybe "Nothing was actually stopping women from holding these jobs exact having to work harder, or have an interest in, but the men who did are not as important as those women because I am a sexist moron who really doesn't give a shit about a…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 06:51 AM
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Yeah let's ignore the fact that statistcally more children are abused by women. Let's not address why society has such a stigma against men. Let's just bypass how constantly being looked at as a danger to everyone makes men feel. Yup, none of that is important, what men really need to do is act like women. What makes me sick is that people actually commented "Thanks this taught me a lot". Fuck me, I just wish people would open their eyes how terrible this is for a boy to hear everyday of their l…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 06:43 AM
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Man I'm sorry. Obviously like others said get a lawyer. Other than that please do a follow up if you can. I have a funny suspicion you'll end up being ordered to pay more, because well uncle sam is a greedy bastard. but you never know. If it ends up being equal payments then that would be awesome since that's the obvious solution here. I'd definitely be interested in how this ends up. Good luck.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 06:13 AM
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You have a shitty sense of humor. I fall into the sexual could be funny if someone really tried to make it a joke but the article is only describing a guy getting assaulted, blaming it on him, and a shitty version of date rape by sublime(which is a funny song). It's hardly original, the rewrite isn't even well done. "A woman was at a club flirting with some guys, later they raped her. haha that's not how she was expecting the night to end." While I don't find it that offensive, it's just dumb. I…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 06:09 AM
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Yeah I get that, I was just saying it does sound a little funny. Possibly a better way to put it, but indeed it is rape and its really terrible that people actively protest against rapists being prosecuted like rapists. I guess they really can't see past their own "victimization" and most likely don't want their trump card taken away. It's sick how people who say they want equality fight tooth and nail to retain dominance.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:52 PM
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Well it's better than rape by envelope, which is originally what I thought it said.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:31 PM
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I think the point is just trying to show that rape by envelopment is rape. If women's groups are actively protesting a bill being added that let's women who force people to fuck as rape and people are actually ok with this then it's just trying to be proactive in showing that rape is rape. I agree with what you're saying but I'm just glad someone is trying to do something. Maybe #rapeisrape is better, I don't know, I don't twit or facebook or whatever.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:03 PM
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Yeah I had a friend that tried to do that with his girlfriend. After 3 years of being separated he ends up getting arrested because she went ahead and put him on child support anyway and the guy was 2 and half years behind on it. 75% of his check was decided by the courts without his presence nor did that really do much to try to find him so he had to spend 6 months locked up while going even more into debt. This isn't a rare occurrence, women are ok with the IDEA of raising a kid on their own, …
/r/MensRights12/04/13 09:06 PM
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Well it helps if you're good looking. That's why I really hate hearing about all these "creepy" guys that "harass" women all the time. Yeah if someone runs up and tries to hit you with their dick, or just randomly sens you dick pics then I can go with it, creepy fucking people. Most of the time though, it's just someone unattractive(to that person) trying to make a social connection. Yeah so let's berate that guy for trying, fuck him right?
/r/MensRights12/04/13 07:54 PM
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Yes, if we are dealing with rational, logical human being than of course not. If we're going by feels than it's a huge gray area, while you might not have gotten that implication, I could have and unfortunately that's how the law system tends to work. If I felt threatened then you intention is kinda pointless. Unless society has a stigma against your sex and then, like in this situation, no one seems to care and most people ask as if you should be grateful someone asked to have sex with you. Any…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 07:51 PM
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http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+harassment
/r/MensRights12/04/13 02:49 AM
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I don't like those kind of jobs. I prefer safer jobs, though I also like food and shelter, better use some of my privilege to work abundantly safe jobs like the rest of my gender. Oh wait.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 01:50 AM
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Taken from a legal dictionary Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment So yeah, you learn something new everyday.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 01:40 AM
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God it's just...it's insane. Everyone knows women can do this. It's just a part of society, just like in divorces everyone knows the man is going to get boned. Yet I still here everyday that these things just never happen, literally half the guys I know have had a woman do this. It's not the few that do this, this is a regular occurrence and for some reason or another people just cover it up and pretend it doesn't happen. This is their trump card, every man's fear because honestly who tape recor…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 10:27 PM
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So then whether she threaten his job or not, in this situation is was sexual harassment. The threat is implied either way since the person has that power over you. Also most places don't define sexual harassment as anything other than something that makes someone uncomfortable. If someone thinks you're creepy and you ask them out, then they go to HR and all of a sudden you invaded their space, said improper things, made her(this one really only matter for women) feel unsafe and then you're in tr…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 10:12 PM
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Brb gotta go infiltrate my kitchen to make a sandwich and then it's off to the cisgendered white man meeting to discuss how to further subjugate women and minorities.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 07:10 PM
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It's a bigoted interpretation of data that you can only get by closing one eye, squinting and ignoring quite a bit of it. It also serves as a nice way to blame men without blaming men, while blaming men and it's just stupid. In no way shape or form can the "patriarchy" be used as the cause of all gender equality under It simply refers to systematic benefits of being male over being female. and yet that's what it's used for.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:16 PM
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Yeah because it's impossible to care about more than one thing. I think this is bullshit today, therefore I can't care about women getting raped today. You're being dismissive of people's views and playing oppression Olympics, as has been said many times before, just because something might be more fucked up doesn't mean that this isn't wrong. Also, I know you don't care but, I would say would say quite a few people know that women in India and getting a decently raw deal, though again my bigger…
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:51 PM
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Jeez good thing you showed up. Thinking for myself was getting hard plus I was obviously doing it wrong. What should I get worked up about? Please please tell me what should be important to me, as a human being I just couldn't possibly come to any of my own conclusions or decisions. Thank fucking jesus you are here.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 07:56 PM
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You seem to be implying someone said that women deserve to be sexually assualted, if looking or giving attention isnt assualt then you kind of answered your own question. Do you think women in short skirts can't get sexually harassed either because they're "asking for it"? Nobody said this or anything close to it, nothing that can even be construed as it, and even after someone took the time to clarify it you still want to try to shame people and spin words. Maybe you should reevaluate what you'…
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:30 PM
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You had a lawyer, that's what got you out of the DNA test. Nothing else. It would've been too much of a hassle, the DA would've been less likely to get you to cop to a bullshit plea deal. It's sad but that's the state of things. Whether you did anything or not(obviously you didn't) DA's love getting rape convictions, gives them something to point to to justify their jobs. Unfortunately they rarely concern themselves with if a crime happened or not and rather whether they can convict someone or n…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:44 PM
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I've learned that anything that ends in "because the patriarchy" is usually complete bullshit. A trick to use if you're actually trying to debate a feminist(god knows why you would bother honestly) is to have them try and define the word "patriarchy" at the beginning. It really starts to throw everything into question when they can't use "patriarchy" as the catch they want because they already defined it for something else and after the 5th time of going "oh but patriarchy also means this too" j…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 02:05 PM
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Blame patriarchy, Blame men, we're a hate group, shut the fuck up, we're dog that need to be trained, some mumbling, hate group, shut up the fuck, mr. entitled. the prove is in the pudding, SHUT THE FUCK UP LISTEN THE FUCK UP. that's how far I made it. Oh and we're allies if you would just shut the fuck up and do what we say.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 11:50 AM
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National Organization of Women. I mean, yeah it's in the name I think it's pretty self explanatory. For real though, I kinda get what you're saying but if you're trying to make a distinction between feminist theory and feminists in practice, that's just giving people way to much credit. It's like someone saying they're in the kkk but they don't believe the part about hating black people, sure a handful of people who claim to be kkk might just be pro-white and not anti black, but most of them are…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 11:40 AM
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I just get sad when I think of how many people feel the need to troll us. It's just, it's just dumb, and yeah I agree this guy was most likely a troll. You see how much we put into patrolling things like that, downvoting hateful comments. Yet quite a few "feminists" advocate things like male death, castration, male population control openly and its just fucking insane. A guy calls a woman a bitch, cunt, twat, fucking hate crime. Calling for the castration of all men, radfem, kinda, not really, a…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 08:43 AM
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Girls will be girls For real though I'm sorry, sick people out there. I know.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 08:28 AM
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Or just someone that can't articulate very well and also might not be that bright. Why are their women in the western world(anywhere for that matter) actively working against male genital mutilation. It doesn't make any sense, they do not understand and frankly it's fucking appalling that such things are approved of. I would call those people a few names too because they're sick individuals.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 08:15 AM
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So what's so wrong with being anti-feminism? Is it such a terrible thing to disagree with an ideology? Especially one who's core foundation( "the patriarchy) is no longer about equality and is instead about blame and hate? Funny how MRA sites have to police hardcore(hard mother fucking core) against anti-women comments, make sure they're downvoted(mainly trolls if you ask me, though they're are quite a bit of terrible people out there) and yet the reverse is hardly ever true. At the end of the d…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:46 AM
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What do you mean exactly when you say These roles have indeed evolved from a patriarchal society. My belief was that the patriarchy was the belief that men govern things in a way to keep men in power and disenfranchise women so as to keep men in power. How does sending men to war and men to die having anything to do with keeping men in power and women under thumb. Honestly to me it seems like you just threw up "patriarchy" to blame men for the fact that men are the main victims of war and that j…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:20 AM
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Yeah their comment was kind of random wasn't it? Anyway I get that the topics been brought up before but why is it a bad thing to bring it up again. It would most likely be better if there was some follow up comment to the picture but bringing up the same conversation point again doesn't make it a bad thing. Old topics...well they get old and people forget about this, rekindling thoughts and conversations can be a good thing, I mean just because something had been said before doesn't mean it can…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:07 AM
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I love the last part of the second link(http://it-goes-both-ways.tumblr.com/post/45651100886/inappropriateresponses-d1am0ndt1ara). Remember everyone, it’s not a legitimate rape if a man involuntarily gets an erection because the body has a way of shutting that down. And if a man thinks he’s getting raped, he’s really just being misogynistic and slut shaming his rapist. Wow. Radfems and Republicans have so many things in common. Jeez is that brillant. Next time someone tries to explain to me how …
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:47 AM
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Ok, last time. Again, this is using your logic. So i hope you understand that what you are saying here, about it being false because it doesn't make sense is you saying that your analogy is false and doesn't make sense. I was just pointing out that your thinking was incredibly flawed and obviously false. I can't tell if you're purposefully dense or just naturally dumber than a rock. Sorry to insult you but come on man, I made it pretty clear what I was saying.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 12:33 PM
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Oh i hate that. People make a claim, link an article that directly contradicts them and then refuses to acknowledge it or tells me "You must not be intelligent enough to understand the subtext" or some other bullshit. It's just infuriating.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 12:29 PM
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You're missing the point. Using you're logic it just doesn't make sense. It isn't about the government forcing you to do anything. Also, pretty sure the "government" is the one that made the laws that say you can not consent to sex when you are drunk. If you can not consent, as you can not drive, then using your logic if you do then you waive any excuse if you leave yourself opportunities to have sex. Literally almost saying exactly what you are, as it is your comparison and your logic. Just try…
/r/MensRights19/01/13 12:11 PM
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Wouldn't it be the same with sex them. Getting drunk you know that you cannot consent to sex so you have the responsibility to not have sex. By engaging in drink then you waive any excuse if you leave yourself opportunities to drive. Doesn't make much sense either way.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 11:43 AM
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That's really the thing though isn't it. No one would've batted an eyelash if a man forced a minor to touch his penis. They certainly wouldn't have had they're lawyer up there crying how shocking and unconstitutional it was to have sentences like this. These things only become a problem when they happen to women.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:42 PM
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There were a handful and they were all removed. Atleast that was my understanding of it. When I looked at it, it was 90% women in yoga pants. It clearly stated no upskirts and what not and from what I read they did a pretty decent job keeping those out. It was more the terrible publicity it caused. Tubecrush gets away with it because frankly people don't see it being on the same level of wrong when it involves men. People are just generally ok with that, women on the other hand, need to be prote…
/r/MensRights06/01/13 09:23 PM
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Yes, I can see the joke didn't go over well. It was more like it'd be cool to have a Minister for men and equalities, and it'd be cool the have a minister for beer and pizza. I have concluded that Men's Right's hates beer and pizza.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 05:14 PM
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There's nothing wrong with either, Look if you're in public and someone takes a picture of you then guess what, you're in public. If you don't want people to see you in yoga pants,v necks, or whatever else then I suggest you don't leave your house. Now if someone is taking upskirts or somehow getting a camera down a dudes pants without him knowing and taking pictures, that's obviously wrong. Plus you have the underage thing so it's all a fucked up line. The thing is, the internet is stupid. Mob …
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:58 PM
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Ok, I'll bite, I think masculinity is important for young boys too but why does that have to mean that anything nurturing or feminine must be rooted out? Why can't you take the good from both sides. May he protects his doll and supports it, or plays games like you most likely did with action figures. It's not a zero-sum situation, you can be more than one thing. Unfortunately most of us were beaten into masculinity and have learned that you can't be both, but that's just wrong. People can be wha…
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:36 PM
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All these people have great examples but really it's much simpler than that. Just be a good person, don't be scared of men or feel the need to treat them any different than anyone else. Every person on this planet is different and should be treated so. Try to look out for everyone and stop injustice when you can. All it really is is to just try to be a good person, to everyone and start realizing that you can judge someone until you know them.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:26 PM
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This is scary. Idea's are weird like that, they spread and eventually someone in power catches one of these bat shit insane ideas and just runs with it. As if men didnt have enough to fear. People always joke about having a one night stand or your wife of someone sign a sex contract stating consent, and it's all just a good joke. Except that is exactly what is needed, for men and only men mind you, it's not a joke and it's fucking scaring. Now I am personally responsible for everyone females con…
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:16 PM
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Wut
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:11 PM
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Wut
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:10 PM
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Right next to the Minister for beer and pizza.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:02 PM
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This what happens when you say you want "equality" but actually lobby for better.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 04:00 PM
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20 years is just a maximum, honestly he might do 1-3 years if he has a good lawyer.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 03:52 PM
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Honestly not everything is researched 6 different ways from Sunday. I doubt this guy has sources for his statement and is just using common sense, because frankly it makes sense what he's saying. Is it true 100% of the time, I doubt it but in most situations I've seen, that's how it plays out. If you are curious about sources then I suggest you goggle it for yourself. Maybe try "statistics of drink spiking male and female", Or something to that effect. It's pretty easy to do your own research an…
/r/MensRights06/01/13 03:46 PM
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I think a lot of that comes from a fear that if a male stands up to a women for anything then there is a real chance that there will be legal repercussions. When all a women needs to say is that she was scared/hit/raped and it's taken a face value when it's said against a man then people will be less inclined to put themselves in the line of fire for that. Women on the other hand have no idea about things like this and thus are much more likely to intervene because the though of legal repercussi…
/r/MensRights06/01/13 03:41 PM
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Well then how do YOU explain the societal malaise about men's issues? You didn't actually say anything about societal malaise, all you stated(in a pretty cunt like way) was that MRA's are more concerned with hating "feminism" than helping men, which frankly just isn't true. Most tenants of "feminism" are downright sexist and anti-men and by being against those people are automatically helping out men but bashing "feminism" is hardly the main thing MRA's do and because you implied that it's obvio…
/r/MensRights06/10/12 02:50 AM
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It's not an underlying truth if it's not true.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 05:28 PM
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Care to link? I'm always interested in people fighting against their best interests.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 05:24 PM
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Lawyers. It's usually used to help their defense or to help them get what they want. Unfortunately it's hard to tell the difference between women with real mental disorders and those that are just manipulating the system. As long as they're "getting help" it basically absolves them of all past wrong doings.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 05:20 PM
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You are wrong, and angry. Just saying pull out is completely incorrect. If you think it's acceptable to do and not explain the over 10 steps involved then that's on you and no it's not against etiquette to downvote a useless comment that does more harm than good. It's awesome that you cannot even comprehend how you could be wrong and kinda funny. See I can say oh hey look some new information I had too look up about this but then I also see that just telling someone to pull out is a terrible fuc…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 07:37 PM
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Yeah still gonna say you're wrong considering all the things involved. Even if you are going to say things like this, it would be a lot better if you would try to explain the steps rather than just saying to pull out, since it really isn't just about pulling out. It's also be pretty clear for quite awhile the precum does have sperm in it whether or not you've ejaculated recently but hey you know, I could google stuff and find something somewhere that says pulling out is completely ineffective bu…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 07:18 PM
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No you're pretty wrong and spreading misinformation is a bad thing to do. If anything precum has sperm in it that can impregnate someone so that kinda blows your 95% to hell. Please don't say such nonsense and then get upset that you get downvoted.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:36 PM
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I get what you're saying but you should also remember that sometimes people misidentify as "feminists". They don't actually believe in the hateful sexist, bigoted dogma that is at the core of "feminism" but don't really know what else to call themselves and most likely haven't done enough research to even know how terrible feminism is for society. A lot of it comes from how "feminism' is seen as the right thing to do and a good thing to be, and again most people don't research enough to know how…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:30 PM
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Yeah but that's slightly irrelevant, I mean even if he doesn't believe it, these are the types of laws he will try to enact and OP is right, we should be furious about this stuff. Only bad things come from limiting things like this.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:26 PM
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Yes and no. I mean who judges what "a little bit of interest" is. Is it that big of a deal to be hit? Not at all but that isn't what this story was about. It was about thinking that everyone is out to rape you if they hit on you, which is ridiculous. If people hitting on you is really just that terrible then you really need to look at other parts of your life and wonder why that is. Is being asked what time it is that annoying? or being asked for directions or dozens of other innocuous things th…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 02:23 PM
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Now that you mention it, I'm not entirely sure, but with my experience in the system, you can appeal just about any judges decisions. I mean it usually doesn't do anything and costs money most of the time but anything from sentences to fines can be appealed so I just kinda applied that to child support. Sometimes I think just because something is common sense then it must be but I'm often proved wrong so that's something to look into.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:25 AM
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Really I would have to say I feel the exact opposite. even assuming that we live in a world where rape allegations are treated as presumptively credible I think that really sums up how skewed her world view is. Yeah I agree that a rape exception to abortion would be fucking ridiculous and that women deserve to have rights over their own body and reproductive health but honestly, not a particularly hard position to take on a topic like this. I get that there are quite a few idiots in congress but…
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:23 AM
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I see a ton of comments like this around here. Edit: Though more is always good.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:12 AM
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So where are all those "feminists" that were arguing about this stuff in r/politics earlier. Oh yeah not about women, right, equality, totally, unless you're born with a penis. Way to go.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:03 AM
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Yeah, I always like how "bio-truths" are disregarded when it would prove "feminists" wrong but then without the bat of an eyelash are throw out at the first chance if it makes them the victim.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 01:07 AM
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I usually find a polite "no thank you, I'm not interested" works extremely well.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 12:52 AM
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Because society condones male on male violence, if you piss off someone with the ability to hurt you, as a male, that's something you have to worry about. Women on the other hand rarely(in comparison) have to worry about such things.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 12:49 AM
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I guess if they think they say it enough times it becomes true. Unfortunately it might be complete bullshit but that doesn't mean most people don't accept statements about the "wage gap" as fact. Fuck my life.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 12:46 AM
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I guess he has to specifically say "No ma'am I do not consent to this" otherwise it's free game. You seem to have you're mind made up so no use to keep talking.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 12:37 AM
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Yeah definetly appeal everything you can. Funny thing about the government is they can really do whatever they want. Also if I was personally sending that much money to support my "children" I would consider not buying them gifts. I know it sounds shitty but with that kind of money the kids mother could easily buy gifts under his name, though I doubt she would do that. Yeah though, if the stuff is just going to get sold and you're already broke as it is, I wouldn't be sending any extras but that…
/r/MensRights23/08/12 10:24 PM
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It says he protested the handjob, I would take that as not consenting to a handjob.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 10:21 PM
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But it doesn't say he was content with anything, it says he protested and said no. It's not like the guy could just knock the lady out of even restrain her. I think it's pretty clear that this was rape but because it's a guy we pretend like there are all these extra things that need to be considered. He didn't consent to sex and this lady performed sex acts against his will, pretty black and white if you ask me.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 09:54 PM
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Not to mention protesting the whole time. The article also doesn't say how long everything lasted, some men don't take long before they orgasm. So basically what this is saying is that as long as a person orgasms, it's not rape.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 09:50 PM
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Is there anyway to try to at least get partial custody of the kids, one or all of them? Child support might be lowered if custody is split, and unless there is a reason she has full custody that you left out I wouldn't think it would be more than a few days in court to try to get. Also maybe try to set up a re evaluation for the child support payments, there should be an appeal system, because the court might not have taken into account the cost of the foster care, which if he could get custody …
/r/MensRights23/08/12 09:43 PM
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Maybe context? I really don't know, but her world view is incredibly fucked.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 09:36 PM
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They are, marriage, if it has any effect, makes it harder on the father to see the kids because of the sanctions that get's put on ex husbands. This is why men still have visitation rights and have to pay child support whether or not they were ever married to their child's mother.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 08:05 PM
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Call a cat a cat and a duck a duck.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 07:54 PM
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Oh no, I'm a pirate, ARRR! So I went ahead and downloaded it, just wasn't sure how others would feel about me posting a torrent link here. That kind of stuff can be touchy sometimes. It's fucking great though, definitely worth watching.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 07:46 PM
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Hey if it helps, I agree with you. Feminism as a doctrine is hateful and bigoted. Anyone who looks a patriarchy theory and thinks otherwise is crazy if you ask me and just because people say they're after equality, doesn't mean they're telling the truth. That's besides the point though, if people do want equality, then they aren't feminists, the two do not equal each other at all. On a fundamental level it doesn't make sense but it's what they do because it's what society let's them do. It's lik…
/r/MensRights23/08/12 05:17 PM
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I like that they had to remake the post and say " A single study shows". People really can't stand anything that goes against the "facts" they have in their head.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 04:59 PM
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Would it be against the rules for me to link to the pirate bay torrent that I downloaded since I don't have netflix? I don't know this subreddit's stance on piracy. Edit: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7545611/Bill_Burr__You_People_Are_All_the_Same_%282012%29_ If this is against the rules I'll remove it immediately, he does bring up a ton of good points though, but at the end of the day it's still comedy so it's worth watching either way.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 04:58 PM
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Can I point you too the research done for breast cancer vs. prostate cancer The fact of the matter is that men have always been more important and covered beforehand, women have taken a backseat for freakin' ever when it comes to medical sciences. Yeah that's what I mean, obviously you don't have a point other than fuck men.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 07:16 PM
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This is weird crimes like obstruction and other things. Or they just make one up on the stop. I don't think the guys gone to court and they're just keep him in jail. You be surprised how often police can just jail someone and then make up reasoning after the fact.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:15 PM
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Again not what I'm saying, honestly I forgot what you're main point was, something hateful or stupid though I'm sure. Yeah it's cool though, whatever you say, oh no it was victim blaming right? oh yeah blow it out your ass again, that's in what I linked you. If you can't be bothered with doing just a tiny amount of research yourself then I really can't be bothered. If you could link whatever grandiose source you have for how everyone hates women or whatever your trying to say I'd love to see it …
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:14 PM
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It's kinda funny that because people want equality suddenly it's MRA's at the helm. How is this a bad thing? Honestly I'm pretty happy that people wanting equality is seen as MRA's and it really goes to show how hateful feminism has become. If you aren't blaming men or white people than you obviously can't be a feminist, if you don't follow patriarchal theory(racists and sexist itself) then you must be an MRA. Yeah fuck those equal rights for all. Anyway people are dumb, feminists are a hate gro…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:12 PM
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I thought feminists weren't racist? or sexist? This is hilarious, because you seem to think that all guys are lining up to fuck people like you and your friends. I'd be pretty angry too if I saw other women getting some and not me. So because you're a troll in real like you try to be a troll online, it makes a lot more sense to me now. Now scamper on your way little one, adults are talking here.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:57 PM
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I think the bias of the courts makes this question pretty obvious. Surprisingly some fathers do pay child support when they have the kids, it happens way more often than it should, though i wouldn't say this is the norm. On the other hand fathers do pay child support for join custody while the opposite is not true and more than often women are given custody simply because mothers and all that. As a personal anecdote I've seen quite of few mothers threaten fathers to have their kids taken away if…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:52 PM
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He pissed off a woman. That's where he went wrong.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:47 PM
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That's a bad use of the word allegory. Sorry, I mean I get what you're saying just that stuck out to me. I would have to say that this falls under men being disposable and the physical pain they have to endure on the show is wrong. It shows society is cool with men being hurt if they make "mistakes". I agree it's just a stupid show but the attitudes behind it are quite disturbing, why is it fine to hurt men, will this encourage domestic violence towards men, why is this the normalized version of…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:43 PM
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indeed, I'm sure you didn't read about where it does. Though I'm sure it doesn't compare to all the sources you've linked, the many and massive amounts that are so many I just don't seem to remember. I get it, you don't want to learn anything and won't believe anything, it's not surprising. so please continue on your way.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:34 PM
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Yup and "feminists" are never hateful and bigoted. This is why I get upset when people claim to be "feminists" or claim the generalizing "feminism" as something bigoted is a bad thing. Plain and simple, if you want equality between genders then you are not a feminist, it is not interchangeable. People are fucking ridiculous and it really makes no sense how this kind of obvious sexism is tolerated by society but people like the MRA are antichrists. None of it makes and sense.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 07:13 AM
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Great to see you don't understand and the obvious "fuck men" attitude.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:45 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ybzja/was_asked_to_give_one_example_of_ways_in_which/c5u8zin, guess looking in the side bar was too much? Also what the fuck facts did you link too, must've missed that one. I know this still wont change your mind because your just trolling and don't actually care but yeah have fun.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 06:55 PM
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Hey guys I found a fucking tool, do I get a prize?
/r/MensRights20/08/12 09:36 AM
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That hurt my feelings.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 09:50 PM
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I would have to disagree. Again, I think people who want equality are not feminists, whether they call themselves that are not. If you research patriarchal theory and patriarchal psychology and most other tenates of feminism then it is a hateful a bigoted group plain and simple. It's like saying there are nice people in the kkk and therefore you can't call it a hateful organization, if something is formed out of spite and hate with the goal of subverting someone else and putting them below you t…
/r/MensRights19/08/12 03:39 AM
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I"m sorry, I meant that people are misrepresenting themselves, as in those who say they are "feminists" because they want equality are in fact not "feminists" since "feminist" tradition and dogma dictates them to be hateful a bigoted. I thought I made that clear. Sorry for the confusion but I get what you mean, maybe not every single last one, but the giant majority and I would definitely say he was more speaking on the trend of feminists lying and is far from being a false "generalization". Lik…
/r/MensRights19/08/12 03:26 AM
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That's fine, you're antiquated way of thinking and refusal to not twist peoples words and play stupid little games is embarrassing to anyone of the human species. Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night though. All those big bad MRA rape apologist's that don't exist can rock you to sleep in your cozy little bed of unchanging "feminist" myths, humming loud enough that you never have to listen to anyone or do any research of your own.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 11:56 PM
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Yup, everything you just said is bullshit. If you're fucking someone, or are in a situation that it's imply that sex is going to happen(I.E. going to bed with someone) and then decide you no longer want sex but don't verbalize it or anything else and wonder why the guy wants sex, yeah you need to take responsibility for your actions. That's really all the guy was saying. But you like to twist people words, which why I'm responding. Again almost everything you said and how you said it proves you …
/r/MensRights18/08/12 10:17 PM
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I'm done with you. You obviously didn't understand what he was saying. No you don't want to understand. So please politely go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 10:02 PM
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Blow it out your ass, if you can't look back on your last few comments that's your selective memory problems. "give me examples" is such bullshit. Again, in your head you are solely the only one here who doesn't like rape. You're just super great and anyone who doesn't agree with you exactly = rapist/rape apologist, and yes telling a man he is a rapist or victim blaming is just as bad as calling someone a nigger. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you. So yeah go read your comments…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 09:50 PM
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Every thing you say, it's like your just some big feminist talking point hate monger game. You take things constantly out of context, you've basically called all men rapists or rape lovers. You solely are the only one here who doesn't like rape. You pretended to be using gender-neutral terms while making obviously generalized statements about women. To top it all off you do it in a community full of men, simply to antagonize people. It's like walking up to a black guy and calling him a nigger, i…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 09:32 PM
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Yeah take shit out of context much? All the guy was trying to say is there are steps you can take to protect yourself. Yeah I suppose we have a society of mugging apologists too because you lock your doors or car theft apologists because every parking garage has a sign that tell you not to leave valuables in your car. No group of people can stop rapists from existing, and our judicial system does a damn good job of holding them responsible(and quite a few innocent guys too) so telling some one t…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 09:27 PM
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I think prison is a much more realistic state-sanctioned slavery that goes on today. Also, in prison, women are not forced to do any kind of hard labor the same way men are, especially in private prisons. Maybe realistic isn't the right word, just more prevalent, since it's actually happening today and the draft is something we have to worry about in the future.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:27 PM
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Yeah well being portrayed as a pedophile and a weirdo will disaude quite a few people I imagine. Not to mention all the other labels a man in child care, let alone early life childcare, would get or all the opportunities that he wouldn't be eligible for since he was a man and the women is obviously the better choice.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:24 PM
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Holy truth Batman! If you align yourself with "feminists" then you are aligning yourself with hateful, racists, bigoted dogma so to say all feminists are evil bigoted liars is pretty accurate. Of course people misrepresent themselves as "feminists" when they really want equality but honestly there isn't too many of them and again, why identify with such a hateful group of people. So yeah, not really generalization, do some research into "feminist" dogma and tactics and see that on a whole liars …
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:21 PM
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Yeah I think if the account is an obvious troll account then that really negates the "proof". If all the person posted was man hating patriarchy theory and feminist dogma then obviously he wasn't an MRA.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 07:16 PM
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Well this is just another case where "patriarchy" is hurting men. Come on guys we all know it's true, because men are in power they have dubbed themselves pedophiles to help spice up white male privilege(but only if they're straight!). Though it's no where near as bad as how "patriarchy" hurts women, having an extra helping hand in a video game that could let you share an interest with your SO that you don't normally have is just fucking horrid. How you guys think being called a pedophile is wor…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:53 PM
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Hey, I just wanted to say that I'm really glad you don't let things like this scare you from speaking your mind. You honestly say the things that I think and can put them in a way that doesn't involve profanity and let's me know that even though I'm usually quite angry when dealing with "feminists" and resort to stupid things like name calling and cursing, that the points I fall back on are still valid and if I had enough patience I could say them in a much more professional way. I've had a pret…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:40 PM
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Yes it's illegal and wrong to hit someone but I think this more concerns itself with the ridiculous things women to because they know society has deemed it "bad" to hit them. You don't see to males arguing escalate the way a man and a women argue because both men know that a physical altercation is a reality where women doesn't expect that and expects all her crazy shit to just be sucked up and dealt with. It's let them behave like children and thus it's not so out of the world for them to be di…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:33 PM
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What a load of shit. If this isn't some made up person I'd be incredibly surprised. His whole understanding of MRA and Feminism is just...well it's basically how a "feminist" would describe both of them. Feminism=good and if you aren't then you're obviously a rapist and hate women where as MRA = People who only want to hurt women and continue their "male privilege" and are also rapists and pedophiles, evil, the devil. It's all so pedantic it makes my head hurt. I cannot for the life of me believ…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:25 PM
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Wow, keep on hating men and trying to put them right under your boot you bigot fuck. Just because society let's you get away with being a man hating ignorant loser doesn't mean you can do it here. You just keep repeating stuff no one is saying and pretend like you have some valid point in telling people who want other people to protect themselves that their "rapists and rape apologists". You make zero sense and are full of logical fallacies, you should reevaluate you life and your thought proces…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:09 PM
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wait I thought we weren't talking about women? I thought you were being all gender neutral. You're a troll for arguing without points and putting words in people's mouth, while at the same time telling people their doing it to you. You obviously just want to hate men so take it somewhere else, no one here blames rape victims for being raped.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:06 PM
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I thought about replying but no, I won't let stupid shit like this fuck with my day again. If anything you're just here to piss people off by dancing around topics, making direct correlations and then pretending that because you didn't directly say exact words that of course that isn't at all what you meant. Most likely a troll but less likely just someone ignorant. Also you trying to downgrade anything I said because I seem "upset, or cursed" is pretty fucking retarded, plenty of people curse a…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 01:00 PM
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Lol @ your strawman arguments. " I feel like most of the people saying stuff like "women who enter beds with men deserve to get raped!""? You're literally creating arguments that I didn't make and then calling me out for some stupid shit because of arguments that I didn't even make. That's just dumb. See how dumb this looks, I don't really agree with this guy, well kinda do but he has a shitty way of explaining things. You on the other hand just say something even stupider and try to go from the…
/r/MensRights17/08/12 06:46 AM
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I think you're so pissy and defensive that you take one simple sentence and throw out a bunch of "feminist" buzzwords and pretend that you said something intelligent. So far all I've seen you do is complain about you're gender-neutral victims here which honestly had nothing to do with anything other than you wanting to fake outrage by putting words in someone else's mouth. Then in a weird stroke of stupidity you try to blame people for doing the exact same thing you literally had done just befor…
/r/MensRights17/08/12 06:38 AM
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"but what about teh wumenz"
/r/MensRights17/08/12 03:53 AM
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Actually physical abuse is more common with women and children and just as common and men in domestic abuse. This doesn't account for all of the under reported cases that go by that laws like Primary Aggressor laws encourage men to not be able to seek police help if they are being abused by women. So not only are things pretty 50/50 on domestic abuse but women are more often child abusers and "feminists" have lobbied for laws that cause men not to be able to report domestic violence, but on the …
/r/MensRights16/08/12 11:20 PM
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Yeah I agree, I was more just trying to compromise with the other person's point of view. I don't think the government should use discriminatory methods to do anything, especially when it comes to the work force. It's a really tricky slope, I'm just glad we can all agree that this so called "wage gap" is really just people's personal choices.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 11:06 PM
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Yeah, this is actually a highly common event that takes place in the service industry. An attractive young woman(or really any average woman) has a much higher chance to get a job than I do. No one really talks about this kind of discrimination though, and it's pretty blatant too.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 03:18 PM
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Well there you go, obviously a brilliant use of satire, you sir get a gold star in awesomeness today.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 02:38 PM
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Yeah I feel you, but fuck those people. They're the same people that link to /r/mensrights(or whatever the troll fake subreddit is) and go "LOOK AT ALL THESE WOMAN BEATING RAPIST MEN", even though it's run by srs and "feminist" trolls. Honestly I don't think people should have to censor themselves just because some bigots are trying to make them look bad. With that said, yeah he should've found a better way to say that but still I don't think saying it deserved all the downvotes from our communi…
/r/MensRights16/08/12 12:00 PM
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Yeah I'm sure you got in A in your hateful human being class.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 09:44 AM
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Yeah can't believe this stuff, completely impossible. It's not like domestic violence is split down the middle or anything between men and women and there are studies in our side bar here or all over the internet that are done by third party people just looking for the truth. Hell it's not like it's 50/50 before you take into account that men are far less likely to report domestic violence, because of the patriarchy of course(because only men could put men in a position to fuck men over, damn th…
/r/MensRights16/08/12 09:43 AM
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I think the person more meant what he would like to do, not so much what he would do in real life. Maybe I'm just choosing the believe that because I've been in similar situations as OP and personally I wanted to tear up the woman/men who did that to me. Of course I didn't, because violence is hardly ever the answer, but that didn't stop me from wanting to do it. People in pain like that sometimes want to make their antagonist feel similar pain to what they felt, doesn't mean they actually act o…
/r/MensRights16/08/12 09:27 AM
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You know, I kinda agree. With that kind of point of view though then you'd have to be against laws that would pay women doing less work the same as men doing similar work. I'm not sure the government should or can fix these things. If women would rather enjoy their job more than be paid more, on average, then shouldn't that be their prerogative. At the most I guess there could be ways to encourage women to go into s.t.e.m. fields or more dangerous lines of work but certainly lose the legislation…
/r/MensRights16/08/12 09:10 AM
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I can't downvote those people, I am sad =( Edit: The more I read, the more everything just uses the same logic as evolution is just a "theory". "It's only one study", "what republicans? it's gotta be a lie then, they hate women", "wow a single study that must be true then /s". It's really sad that they can't see the similarities in their arguments as the creationists I'm sure they hate, or even bother to research themselves to find almost every study(not counting "feminist" run studies) have the…
/r/MensRights16/08/12 09:04 AM
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It's a year old post, it most likely wasn't struck down but just ignore. Most of these facts are ignored simply because society as a whole believes whatever "feminists" throw at them. If you don't agree with every "feminists" then you obviously hate women/war on women. It still amazes me how people can be given cold hard facts and just look the other way because a myth is widely accepted. It reminds me of how people used to believe the sun revolved around the earth and those that though otherwis…
/r/MensRights16/08/12 09:01 AM
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Freudian reading slip? ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights16/08/12 08:58 AM
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For serious, I though you guys were serious. I was really confused for a second and then I was like "oh sarcasm, no downvote for these guys, just upboats!"
/r/MensRights16/08/12 08:57 AM
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Hey now I said kudos for trying! I'm not the one that's stopping you from not identifying with hateful people.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 07:06 AM
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He did redefine a word. Really go look at how core feminists define patriarchy, there's no logic fallacy here other than someone doesn't want to believe they identify with a hateful organization. Also I like how you have an argument against something that is true, but still isn't true because fallacy. Stretching a bit aren't we? I hear humming really loud works too. Also NAFALT!
/r/MensRights08/08/12 07:05 AM
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My question to you is how do you feel about laws that are lobbied by feminist groups, like the rape shield laws and primary aggressor laws. Not to mention the laws set forth in family courts that have an extremely bias stance toward (unfit)mothers.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 07:02 AM
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Blame the patriarchy!
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:44 AM
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Just following your logic here. I think it all falls to pieces though when the guys wife takes the kid to the clan meeting anyway. How does that end up be rationalized into being ok? I'm sure he wouldn't want his child around those people. I'm sure that is a good environment for children.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:43 AM
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It's ok, you've made it pretty clear you don't know what you're doing, but kudos for trying to do the right thing. If only you didn't feel the societal pressure or whatever else it is to cause you to align with people with doctrines of hate.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:36 AM
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I'm sure you mean wallet.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:31 AM
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That's because logic is a form of abuse to women.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:31 AM
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People have a problem with feminist doctrine. This is what makes me laugh about reasonable people who say they're feminists. It's basically saying "I'm a feminist, even though I don't really believe in any of their doctrines, only extreme feminists would do that, all i want is equality". Really feminism isn't about equality, it's about power and propagating old myths. Like wage gap and that there are no false accusers, as well as all men being rapists. People take offense with that, not people w…
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:30 AM
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Yeah, unless it's true. And patriarchy does speak about men, and most feminists will tell you to check your privilege because as a man, you're part of the patriarchy. So uh..yeah gotta love straw man defensive, NAFALT!
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:27 AM
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I believe you have it reversed. The people you're talking about simple aren't feminists.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:13 AM
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Did you actually read that? Now only are you looking at maybe 10% of cases being "classified" as no-crime but some places have as low as 2.5%(granted some are as high as 30). It even saying in their about taking the mandatory arrests and the "victim" focused approach to evidence. Great so let's try to make things fit this person's story, and fuck that guy over there. Most of the paces report less than a 6% no-crime deduction plus it even says in the begining that a lot of things have been mis cl…
/r/MensRights07/08/12 03:08 PM
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Really, because more often than not, arrests are make before anyone has any kind of evidence. That right there is enough to ruin some one's life for ever. Sure does look great when you have to go defend yourself for a rape crime. Fact is most people get thrown behind bars for thoughts like yours. "Oh it's hard to get evidence so we have to take this young ladies word for it". No, there is always evidence. So I don't understand 2 things, apparently you think it's hard to get convictions for rape?…
/r/MensRights07/08/12 12:49 PM
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Yeah cool, chick shames a man and emotionally abuses him into having sex with her and then keeps him around because he's oh so happy with her. Whatever, a lot of "feminist" definitions of rape are bullshit, brow beating and shaming someone into sex isn't. Manipulation is manipulation. I suppose drugging someone and then convincing them while their semi conscious isn't rape too?
/r/MensRights04/08/12 06:39 AM
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I think you should face consequences, not just go about your life pretending that everything is fine with what you did. Literally everything you just said was rationalizing. You emotionally abused a person into sleeping with you but it's not a big deal because now everything seems ok. You committed a crime, it's similar to me saying "oh well I don't think smoking pot is that big of a deal, so I shouldn't get in trouble for it". Except you did something way worse. So yeah, I'm just repeating myse…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 11:24 PM
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"Feminism" is simply about giving women more power and less responsibility and accountability. I get accused of hating women and being a misogynist simple because I love women and respect women so much that I think they should be treated completely equal with all the benefits and hardships of men, earn respect for themselves, be able to be independent, and be able to defend themselves. I know it's a horrible thought that men shouldn't be treated as inferior, disposable human being at the beck an…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 11:18 PM
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Because moving would just be oh so much trouble, no instead we have to station people on buses to protect these weak women from the big bad rapey men. Only men mind you, since obviously if someone harasses a guy, they obviously like it or something must be wrong with them. Doch_doch should take personal responsibility for every creep out there and have his gender slandered non-stop because....well penis, that's why Ignorant fucks like you piss me off to no end. My patience level has been reached…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 11:13 PM
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Oh yeah man I completely agree, I suppose I do see where you're coming from now. It's just not what I took away from it the first time I read it. You know reading things more than once can help you take different things away from it, but yeah I get what you're saying. As much as it's shitty that people take that mindset, it's still something that men are starting to even be mentioned as rape victims, I guess we gotta start somewhere right?
/r/MensRights03/08/12 11:08 PM
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Just a suggestion, maybe just write some strategies that lgbt movements have used or something like that. I'm not saying start a march in Washington yourself or anything like that but advice is always valuable.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 11:06 PM
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I don't believe you'll actually turn yourself in but I also don't believe that you are not willing to do it because he doesn't want you too. He might not want you too, but what you did is still an incredibly serious crime and if you were truly repentant for it you would face your punishment. Even if he did tell you he wanted to go to court, I doubt you would. No one wants to go to jail. So don't pretend like you so sorry for what you did, honestly it's pretty clear from how you're rationalizing …
/r/MensRights03/08/12 11:04 PM
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I assume my comments might be at least partially what you're referring too there, so let me tell you that you can go fuck yourself for calling me less intelligent/informed/reasonable. I guess you don't "believe" in emotional abuse either. Crying, making someone feel bad for it, demanding, putting out ultimatums, making someone feel like less of a person for not wanting sex, basically all around emotionally beating them until you get what you want isn't the same this as just "oh come on we should…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 10:59 PM
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Yeah some of the stuff reasons to say someone raped you now a days are pretty out there and down right ignorant and stupid. This isn't one of them, it's a pretty clear cut case of sexual assault at the very least. I'm appalled at the people trying to pretend like this is any different. It's only because she is a woman, isn't this the type of sexism we fight against?
/r/MensRights03/08/12 10:46 PM
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None of that changes what you did or makes it light of it anyway. Fine you might just be madly overly in love with you but you still did something terrible and you should face some kind of consquences. All you're doing is rationalizing how what you did isn't that bad because of how things might be now, which only tells me how you don't even think it's that big of a deal. Just trying to drive home that you raped someone. Raped. There isn't anything else to do to make amends other than turn yourse…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 10:44 PM
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lol, sorry I meant it as joke, since I saw you post it like 4 different times. Super lawls.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 10:41 PM
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I completely agree, with actually everything you said. Maybe you could do a post pointing some things out a single MRA can do or maybe just some advice in general? Also glad that we're actually coming to the other said of this war on homosexuality, never really understood why I should be so upset at something that doesn't affect me at all. Yeah I gay male sex to be icky, but I find a lot of fetishes icky too. I dunno man, help would be awesome if you're up for it.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 10:11 PM
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Stop, this is even more upsetting than just raping someone. You are not sorry. You don't even feel slightly bad. It is extremely obvious to me from your comments. You are still sleeping with someone you raped on multiple occasions, and are most likely still raping him. But that is ok because he is financially dependent on you and most likely doesn't want you to do anything else horrible to him so he appeases you. Yeah you are just soooo fucking sorry. Oh and you don't take responsibility or want…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:48 PM
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I would be willing to bet he's bullshitting you. You should really read up as to the psychological changes that happens to long term rape victims. It's most likely better for him to pretend to be happy and to appease you as to not upset you. I can only imagine the other horrible shit you most likely do to the guy. So yes, while he might think he's better off with you, he isn't. No one is ever better off with their rapist. Please go post to askreddit or /twox and ask "I raped someone but I'm stil…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:42 PM
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Rationalize it however you want, you are most likely continuing to rape your victim. You don't feel bad obviously and you should face some consequences. Obviously you're not going to the police but shove your benevolent reasons right up your ass. "oh I'm not going to turn myself in for raping that girl because eventually she got used to it(or better at hiding it) and she also depends on me for a home so that's even more reason for her to keep letting me rape her. So really me raping her was the …
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:40 PM
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As long as she doesn't have to do anything, she'll try to make it right. Fucking horrible person the more I think about it. "Hi I'm a rapist that is most likely still raping my boyfriend, but it's ok because it's been going on for so long that he's better at hiding his pain from me. Because I wouldn't want to feel bad from actually raping that little bitch"
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:28 PM
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Surprise, a rapist doesn't want to go to jail, I'll urge you again, as a victim of rape, please turn yourself in and let the courts decide. Again you don't have anything to really worry about because of how skewed the system is but if you were truly sorry then you would be willing to face the consequences. You don't feel bad for your boyfriend or for what you did, you feel bad that it equals rape and that makes you feel bad. If you can follow that, you feel bad for making yourself feel bad by ra…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:27 PM
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Well I've definitely been pissed off if it is a troll, by the community response of telling a female rapist it's ok to sexually assault men and by having a rapist try to explain how it's ok, she has consensual sex with her rape victim now and they're just in a great relationship. Isn't this the kind of thing we're against, the double standard that rape is? It's all better because someone says their sorry(which I don't believe for one second consider she's still with the guy and rationalizes it o…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:25 PM
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You fucking raped somebody, but oh we have an amazing relationship, the more I read the sicker I get. I urge you to do the right thing and turn yourself in. Rationalize it however you want, you are a rapist.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:21 PM
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This is really shitty part of men's rights. Even hear women are excuse for raping someone. I don't mean to demonize you or anything, I'm glad you've learned from your mistakes and feel bad. That isn't enough. I can't rape someone and go "oh well I know I raped them and feel bad". You need to turn yourself and and let a court system decide whether it was rape or not. Anyone her that doesn't think this was rape or at the least sexual assault is completely wrong as far as the law is concerned. Most…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:20 PM
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http://www.ccsf.edu/Departments/Women_Studies/Project_SURVIVE/4_01.html Funny, they seem to think it's rape.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:15 PM
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From what I remember, the discussion was about an article that was written about how men should being sacrificing themselves for women, and speaking about men as dispensable people. No one just came out and said "fuck those guys in aurora". It's amazing that people really believe SPLC is anything more than a paid lobby group. But they are and they like to spin things however they want, while most people will take it for exactly what they said instead of what was talked about. Ignorant people and…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:07 PM
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Also the fact that he was jailed mainly on her testimony really speaks to how fucked our system is when it comes to this kind of thing. "Oh this person is a serial false accuser? Nah we can't put her in jail so let's go jail this poor guy instead. Yeah this all makes sense."
/r/MensRights03/08/12 09:01 PM
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Please post anything you find, I will look for a few news outlets too and explain the situation to them. If enough of us call and show interest, they are more likely to cover the story than if just one guy calls. I'll post if I find anything, please anyone else out there feel free to do the same.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:59 PM
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It's scary, honestly the more research I do, the scarier it becomes to even approach women. Even family members. I won't babysit my niece because of this, all it takes is my sister to get pissed at me and I'm done, forever. Though on the flip side, since there is no way to protect yourself, all someone needs to do if land on your name in the phone book and accuse you so even not dating or seeing people doesn't really help all that much.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:51 PM
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Felony arrests at that. Those things are much harder to get off your record and hide them and even then they are never permanently erased. Oh and if anything ever does come up again, maybe with a different person, those claims can be held against him as if he was guilty, for every single one of them.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:48 PM
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She also needs to be imprisoned and hopefully learn a lesson, intensive therapy while incarcerated.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:46 PM
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No people need to be held accountable for their actions, yes we need to fix the system but these people are criminals and we should react accordingly. Just because the system is messed up doesn't give people absolution for being evil cunts.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:44 PM
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Well these are the things we need to change and people need to stop lobbying for worse laws.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:43 PM
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I understand, as go I when someone brings it up in a serious fashion. People tend to be willing to believe certain things are wrong with a belief rather than the whole belief itself, though honestly even getting that out of someone is a rare thing. I just think that the fact the inst an actual "patriarchy" is something at least MRAs need to be told. People need to understand that "patriarchy theory is horrifically sexist, an equivalent would be if I said a business was run by women and that is w…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:39 PM
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Indeed, people do shitty things. Since that is no way related to this conversation but it being a conversation of shitty things women do, why would you say that. It's also not sanctioned by society for men to do any of these things that were being spoke about. I'm really tired of this political correctness, of you can't say many, you can't say most, even if its true. Apparently also you must bring up terribly things men do if you bring up a shitty trend that women follow. So here it goes, Many w…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:33 PM
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While those might be definitions that "feminists" use, they have nothing to do with a actually meaning of "patriarchy". They just use that term because it lets them blame men, no matter how they want to spin what it means, it's simply used to push blame onto all men, which is sexist. Therefor is a=b and b=sexist, then "feminism"=sexism.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:27 PM
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not to mention lobbying groups which is real power is at. Also there is no patriarchy to eliminate.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:22 PM
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So why didn't your father get you, since he was obviously in a better position to support you?
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:13 PM
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"But the two hours of house work I occasionally do is so haaarrrrrrd!" FTFY
/r/MensRights03/08/12 08:11 PM
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I would, many women do do this, among other horrible things that many women do to men. Not only do they do it but it's seen as a normal thing to do in a society. "I sure hope my daughter marries a doctor/lawyer/other rich person". Also, prenups aren't made of steel, lawyers use all kinds of tricks to get around them.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:54 PM
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Good links, but some people get frustrated when they have to constantly put facts together for other people, especially when they're on a subreddit full of them. It's a lot of laziness and I personally think people need to do more research on their own, but good links and keep it up!
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:51 PM
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Hey did you misread that as "biased in favor of" because that would make a lot more sense. =)
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:50 PM
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Patriarchy, the though that simply because men hold more positions of power, then they must be abusing women's rights. Honestly it's a bigoted belief system right from the start, really all it says is men are evil. Someone should really tell feminists that we live in a mild meritocracy, no one keeps women from holding positions of power except themselves. On the reverse though, if we lived in a matriarchy, would it be mean that men were automatically disenfranchised and would have less rights? P…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:47 PM
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But the "take back the night" posters were cool. Yeah go ahead and mask your bigotry however you want what that doesn't change exactly what it is.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:41 PM
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It could also gain you business from MRAs maybe? I get what you're saying but I still think you should stand up in what you believe in regardless or social stigma or that it's bad for business. It reminds me mildly or the "No niggers allowed signs", except in reverse, not having those up would've been bad for business but would you have kept those signs up just to get more customers?
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:40 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but it's not about where up votes land or karma at all really. When comments are made and they instantly get -10 down votes, constantly throughout this subreddit what do you think? This doesn't even mention the near constant trolling from people like "feminists" and srs. So I'm not sure if you're new, or ignorant, or just trolling but yeah have fun with all that.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:06 PM
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I'm sure someone has pointed this out but I fully believe in a woman's right to her body, but in this lies a dilemma. It is a woman's sole decision what happens when she gets pregnant, there is no say that a man can put forth, which fare enough people shouldn't be able to make you get an abortion or keep you from getting one, but on the flip side, men have no "opt out" decision. They will always be financially responsible for the child regardless or whether they wanted it or not, and while I'm o…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:02 PM
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Well I suppose that just shows your level of research and ignorance. I for didn't know there were levels of horribleness to rape. Personally I think all rape is a terrible evil crime no matter how it is perpatrated, but if you really think that male on male rape is much more prevalent to female on male rape than you need to do some more research into it. It just shows the ignorance of female rape not being bad and furthers that a man raping someone is the real problems.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:39 PM
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Especially if you doesn't call you back or dates your friend afterwards.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:36 PM
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Um usually if both people are drunk the man is viewed as the rapist. Actually usually if rape occurs, the man is viewed as the rapist. I should point of that primary aggressor laws certainly don't help this. Also is that a shitty name for a law? Like it makes it sound as if you would arrest the person who initiated the crime but instead it just means arrest the person who seems stronger, whether any wrong doing was done on their part. Again, men.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:35 PM
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NEVAR!
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:29 PM
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I get that maybe you didn't write it but the myth the women somehow had is much worse than men back in these times shouldn't be perpetuated. It's one of the whole basis for the "patriarchy" theory and is honestly a bunch of BS.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:28 PM
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I'm not sure, those certainly weren't the feelings I got and why I didn't report, but I can't see the possibility of some men not wanting to report sexual abuse by women because "all men enjoy all sex from women and if you don't then obviously you're a homosexual" stigma that some people have. I don't know if society as a whole has it, but I see it a lot when female teachers rape student. It's often dismissed by people because he obviously had to enjoy it because he ejaculated and if he says he …
/r/MensRights03/08/12 06:22 PM
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I'm sure that isn't MRA's down voting you. Unfortunately "feminists" and people like SRS like to troll this subreddit and do the whole down vote brigade. Edit: this comment was made when the person has -8 down votes or something a few minutes after posting, so yeah glad to see that we could up vote a relevant question, though sadly unanswered at the moment.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 05:27 PM
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How so? Not trying to argue or anything, that's just not what I got from it.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 05:25 PM
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Yeah fair enough, but it's still a pretty absurd definition. I get why it's there and the reasoning behind it but it's been taken too far in my opinion.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 05:21 PM
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That is such an odd definition for the Patriarchy. So because most of the leaders are men, women have been oppressed. That is some weird cause in effect man hating stuff. The whole basis you just gave for patriarchy is men=oppress women. If you somehow thing that by believing this kind of thing(without proof) isn't similar, logic has failed on you and there isnt much else I can really say.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 10:56 PM
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Domestic violence, wage gap, rape culture. Just to name a few off the top of my head. Edit* I mean the though that domestic violence is mainly perpetrated by men, not that domestic violence is somehow imaginary.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 10:52 PM
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SO you wanted to feel like a special snowflake for your special opinion, then you pat yourself on the pat for having said special opinion("it's not often you see an opinion like mine on reddit"). Oh wait no you did it because you though people were looking for revenge against a woman so you just to post your special snowflake opinion. Then people can't actually be offended when you say something. Some people don't like to be told they're anal, not a big deal just try to be nice. Yeah anyone I th…
/r/MensRights08/07/12 10:33 PM
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Yeah but it's a choice. A woman has complete control of her body(as she should) so there are many things a woman can do. A man on the other hand just has to sit there and take whatever happens because of a mistake he made one night. The big difference is when a woman make that same mistake she doesn't have to sit there and listen to anyone, put the kid up for adoption, abortions, abandonment at safe havens, etc.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 08:56 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 03:57 AM
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Stop admitting to hitting her. Yes it was wrong and what not but it is going to come out in court. Hopefully by then you can afford a lawyer or get one to rally to your cause. If she does destroy the car it is possible to pursure charges and damages afterward( I know that's small consolation but it's something) if you can get a lawyer then. If she doesn't have proof of any abuse then it will be harder for her to use. Granted since courts are slanted in her favor anyway, there is no need to help …
/r/MensRights08/07/12 03:30 AM
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It's never to late to save anywhere. All we need is to completely change society's sexist views towards men. Most people even admit that laws are skewed toward giving women giant advantages in courts. It's no secret, I know in my experience most of the women I know have threatened to call the cops on their boyfriends/husbands and lie and most men I know have had it happen too them so it's pretty obvious most people know something is wrong there. It's just getting them to realize that being pro-e…
/r/MensRights08/07/12 02:23 AM
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No quick go put your hands over your ears so you can keep pretending like people being upset over this isn't reasonable.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 02:13 AM
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oh yeah man parody never crosses any lines. Oh and let's not judge people's overtly sexist reaction to it. Man yeah these people are just crazy for not thinking it's just the most hilarious thing.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 02:11 AM
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It's cool man, I tried to show people over at manboobz that verbal masturbation and constant patting each other on back isn't conducive to anything but helping ignorance progress. They were not receptive to say the least.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 02:09 AM
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It seems like everyone in the thread seems to understand that the law has an unfair basis against men. Many of them even speak of personal experiences where they were treated unfairly and it was condoned by the law. I would hope atleast one of them notice this pattern and can maybe rally to our cause to fight against this kind of thing. It amazes me how many people can admit that there are many unfair bias against men and then turn around and preach that men need to be pushed down further and ha…
/r/MensRights08/07/12 02:05 AM
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lol I'm terrible about paragraphs and sentence structure when I'm upset. You seen the original thing I scribbled on a piece of paper. I edited it a bit though and hopefully that encourages more people to read it.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 12:33 AM
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I said that in there. I'd never lump anyone with the horrible people in my life just because of sex, race or affiliations. It just seems more and more people lately want to tell me to just be quiet or excuse themselves for making horrible accusations. Edit* After taking the time to read that heavily modded thread, I honestly don't think that could help me in anyway. It seems more like people want to assuage their guilt for the baseless claims about all men being rapists and misandry not existing…
/r/MensRights08/07/12 12:13 AM
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Unfortunately it reminds me of my childhood.I wish people would acknowledge stuff like this more. If people want to be pricks and say that men should suck it, leave children out of it. I had to suck it, I'm glad to read someone who doesn't have to anymore.
/r/MensRights07/07/12 01:05 AM
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You know it really sucks that as MRA's we have to monitor ourselves constantly, one troll gets by that gets an upvote and we're all woman haters. People have to actively troll us, create fake subreddits, mock and belittle us and yet we have to sit here and say well not every single last feminist is like that. It's bullshit. Of course every single feminist isn't anti-men. Many unfortunately are. I think that is an overtly fair account that many feminists are openly and actively anti-men.
/r/MensRights06/07/12 10:11 AM
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To play devil's advocate: this could easily mean that "home is not home[to me] without mom". As in the father doesn't matter, and without a mother it's just not home. No matter what the father does, he doesn't matter. The mother brings home the money or spends all her time taking care of the children. Something makes the mother big enough to ignore the father. The reverse of which "home is not home [to me] without dad" as in the mother doesnt matter, no matter what she does. Just the father beca…
/r/MensRights24/06/12 11:12 AM
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Fuck me running.
/r/MensRights22/06/12 04:16 AM
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It's not necessarily the mother going after it, I know where i live the state gets a cut of child support in forms of court costs and other stupid fees. If the state want's their cut it really doesnt matter what anyone says or does. Again where I live you do day for day 6 months, no gain time, county time. So it's shitty, wish I had better news.
/r/MensRights22/06/12 04:11 AM
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There is no discussion, we're fucked.
/r/MensRights21/06/12 07:54 PM
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I still don't get it
/r/MensRights21/06/12 01:41 AM
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I don't get it?
/r/MensRights19/06/12 03:42 PM
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Seriously? 90% of the posts i've looked at had srs trolls in them. I don't like blaming srs but honestly? Yeah that's what it is. Go look at /r/mens_rights. There's a nice srs thing to do. Ever wonder why these trolls like to delete their posts? I find it stranger you would say something like that, rather than look at the evidence. Edit: I might've taken that the wrong way actually. If you werent sticking up for the trolls, My bad. Obviously I'm having a hard time dealing with these people while…
/r/MensRights08/06/12 10:44 AM
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Damn right, good for you for wanting equality. It really shows how closed mind people get.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 05:23 AM
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He wants boys to be included, or to have a male equivalent. Similar to women being on football teams or there being and equal football team for them. I don't see how it doesn't apply since it's a school sanctioned activity? I would think there is enough precedence, it was a pretty popular thing back in the 90's
/r/MensRights08/06/12 05:22 AM
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random down votes? ah ha you're the guy that made this law arent you!
/r/MensRights08/06/12 05:19 AM
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While I agree with you, this is a law. It's a simple as that, there are a number of reasons to do something like this, if only to show the hypocrisy to people. So while yeah I don't think these people are hurting anyone, I didnt make the laws. If it's a bad law that hurts people and changes groups without good reason well then we should repel the law.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 05:18 AM
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I could introduce you to some people that would try to convince you that you're just a horrible rape machine if you want?
/r/MensRights08/06/12 05:15 AM
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Stop out-joking me =(
/r/MensRights08/06/12 05:04 AM
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it was a joke
/r/MensRights08/06/12 04:32 AM
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I'm not really a politically correct person, But pro-abortion sounds fucking terrible. It's like "Yes, I'm pro-abortion. Mainly I go around paying nazis to kick women in the stomach." I dunno that's what always comes to my mind when people say that. Pro-choice sounds a lot better but I know what you mean.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 04:15 AM
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I assume you mean internationally america
/r/MensRights08/06/12 04:11 AM
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I think "hardcore republicans" would be a better term, but no I don't think they knew that.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 04:06 AM
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Well if you look at how many people disagree and these civil debates, then no not really. It would take a really irrational person to look at this and make it seem like /r/mensrights was condoning this....
/r/MensRights08/06/12 03:45 AM
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You could honestly do you're own research too, I don't know, maybe you had but I'm just pointing out that we don't always have to wait for other people to post links. The reason the guy is kinda shocked you don't believe him is because trolls make posts 2-3 times a week saying stuff like that. So yeah.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 03:34 AM
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It would be really strange if you didnt see what was wrong with that.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 01:28 AM
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I don't think people are misunderstanding, It just seems crazy that when the accusers are named, they just happen to be male. Is it most likely a coincidence, yeah, but still just the way it looks is horrible. Anyway yeah both parties should remain anonymous but this is really strange non the less.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 01:20 AM
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It's a slippery slope but if I understand you correctly, that both sexes need equal protection from these kinds of things and in an ideal world even protection from false accusers, then yes I agree. As it stands now though the laws are dramatically stacked against men which leads vengeful women to make false accusations. Which is horrible because it does make it harder when someone has a legit claim. I certainly can't speak for the UK but where I am I certainly don't think the panic is over hype…
/r/MensRights08/06/12 12:41 AM
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I don't know what you think that proves. You're sexist and rude, of course people will downvote you. I don't see the game plan from this except trying to get other people to be mean so you can run back to where ever gloating that yup all men are misogynists and you were right. Take a look at yourself. It's cruel the kind of things you're saying and openly man hating and sexist. I don't know why anyone would upvote you, I know they do, but doesn't that go against the kind of racist and sexist stu…
/r/MensRights08/06/12 12:26 AM
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I don't think you're a very nice person.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 12:20 AM
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I dont know how to quote text so bear with me =( To the middle part you spoke about, it's not just that but by living in a place where men are seen as rapist and women always victims in these cases, Even if she wakes up and says everything is fine, she can later change her mind out of spite and have the man falsely accused to where he then has to prove his innocence and with the laws we have in place and the laws in motion is becoming increasingly hard to do. To the last part, You don't really e…
/r/MensRights08/06/12 12:16 AM
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Yeah but wanting doesn't seem to mean much now a days, But in a day and age where using logic on your wife can be seen as domestic violence I don't know what else to expect.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 12:08 AM
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Well that doesn't stop them from sending trolls over here to argue and make MRAs look like asshats. Real Moral high road there srs, can't actually find woman bashing and misogyny so you create your own and go " look look look, look at what someone who totally wasn't me on three accounts bashing women and saying rape is good and we should beat all the women". Fucking crazy people man.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:50 PM
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Yes I believe that's what's going on but I might be paranoid but I think there's a little more too it than that, though not because of feminists per say but more the government wanting to discredit the guy. Anyway I believe its down to a just hearsay, to which he is losing for some reason, even though people should have equal power in their own accounts. Anyway I can't say I've been following much lately so someone else might be more qualified to speak about it than me.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:48 PM
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I suggest you write a letter to your congressman. I know it sounds stupid and hopeless but man, we have to start somewhere. I try to write as many letters as I can, E-mail and hand written. I have to believe that even one person can make a difference. It honestly scares me the stuff that goes on and severely negatively affects my life. While I know MRAs are written off as misogynists most of the time I just try to educate people and maybe I can affect 1 person, who can affect another and so on. …
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:45 PM
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I see, that makes a lot of sense. Mostly I just didn't want anyone to think thought differently. Apparently I didnt read where you quoted them right under me. Bah I'm terrible at zee internetz. My B bid dawg, keep skizzling the rizziling and blizziling the fizziling. Or rather, keep fighting the good fight my dear friend.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:34 PM
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Most women want to decide what are and what arent male issues. There are a number of blogs about this very thing. Now when a man tries to bring up women's issues, even one's that affect both men and women(i.e. abortion) it's a "war on women" but they have no problem telling men that they're issues just plain arent important and they're just a bunch of "male whiners". Feminists think they have the higher moral judgement and men are just misogynist pigs that don't know what kind of things are impo…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:27 PM
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why do you have down votes for that?
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:09 PM
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Evidence? Who needs some stinkin evidence, everyone knows men have super powers to hack into cameras and erase any evidence of rape. Anyway it's because a woman said rape and that is unfortunately enough for most people to lock a man away and ruin his life. Even though he was cleared, now he has this stuck over his head. Now this is an odd case with the accusers mental state being what it is, so maybe there wasn't malicious attempt, sounds like she was just throwing a tantrum. Still it doesn't m…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:50 PM
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Toward the end of the interviews, one of the guy's goes on to talk about how this could open up the flood gates of sour MEN to lie and sue woman over not taking her birth control. Again I like how it's just assume by some people that men are these evil being that lie and cheat to get what they want, while women are just victims of men's actions. I hate that this is the norm for people. Not to be cliche but false paternity allegations = ok/men's fault, false rape claims = ok/men's fault, Women ge…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:44 PM
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tazers and radars and stuff obviously
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:39 PM
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I like how most people just think Julian Assange ran around raping women instead of what actually happened. Man that guy has been screwed over left and right in that case but I guess thats what happens when you run a site like wikileaks and the government doesnt like it, and they can put you in jail.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:32 PM
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If someone could please humor me that would be great. This sounds like an awesome idea and of course it is wrong whether it is a man or a woman that lies about using birth control and some crime should attributed to doing something like is and be fully prosecutable. Now assuming feminists don't find a way to make this a male only crime, which would really surprise me. How would someone go about having evidence that a woman stopped taking her pills or even that she had even informed the man that …
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:29 PM
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You also have to realize that people also use horrible trolls to try to make this place look bad, including using other people in their groups to upvote them. In all likely hood, you're a troll so yeah. awesome opossum right?
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:14 PM
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Um I think you misunderstood the part where you quoted me, mainly because I think you went on to agree with what I was saying. I meant most MRAs stand by prosecution false rape claimers when there is evidence that it was done with intent. Now that is hard because the system is screwed and that makes me very sad. But yeah I apologize if I phrased it in a hard to understand way or you weren't agreeing with me. Also, that woman is insane, women like that is why I'll never get married, have kids, an…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:12 PM
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Well if you think it's ridiculous then why do also think the burden of proof should be lessened(unless I misunderstood you, which I'm not trying too.) Also if that is your stance, then should all crimes with direct victims have there(their?) burdens of proof lowered in a similar fashion? Often many crimes come down to hearsay and most crimes are particularly difficult to establish evidence.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:06 PM
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That's just not true, I wish it was but it's not. That might be how you feel, how you would think rational human being feel but it's just plain not.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 09:56 PM
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it's true but its hard to do =(. Unfortunately when faced with injustice people want to fight against it.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 07:24 PM
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I really like how they have to have trolls like this to make MRAs look bad. Really I dont get how they don't realize how wrong stuff like this is too do. It's like "oh wow there isnt any misogyny, now instead of taking that into consideration I will troll and make it look like there is and also make a fake subreddit to discredit them. Yes instead of changing my views when faced with evidence I will purposefully misrepresent these people to attempt to make my views right, even though it is just m…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 07:19 PM
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Just a minor correction, I think most people her stand by the belief that if there is evidence of someone making a false claim purposefully and maliciously, then they should be prosecuted.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 05:27 PM
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Holy shit, people have too much free time. I'm really curious how they honestly rationalize mens_rights in their own heads as not being a bigotry representation. Anyway yeah, the world is full of dumb people. It's fucking depressing that this is the shit we get for being level headed, taking the high road, and not stooping to other people's level. Fuck my life.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 08:00 AM
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because it would be dumb to assume otherwise.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 07:50 AM
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wow, that's some sad stuff
/r/MensRights04/06/12 08:03 AM
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In all honesty, I was a little loaded last night and don't exactly remember writing this. More or less is you think its these kind of things are ok, then something is wrong with you. If I misunderstood then I apologize. So yeah, I'm just tired of wasting my breath on people.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 06:50 AM
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http://content.dictionary.com/contact?Incorrect%20Information&z=1&r=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent.dictionary.com%2Fabout%2Fcontact That's what I used, I couldnt find much information on source dictionaries, so I asked when I sent them a message.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 06:28 AM
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I really like to see these kinds of things as an innocent over sight. While it's not right i don't believe they mean anything by it and maybe we should possibly email them? You know send them some information and ask them to change to definition to a more correct one. That's what I'll be doing at least, maybe if some of you did the same it would help.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 05:32 AM
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Actually, mentioning that if men mention anything about thinking about mentioning to women anything about sex: sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 02:05 AM
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I dearly hope this is true. I really start to get down on myself after groups of women and men shaming me, physically hurting me, and in general pushing me around simply for pointing out facts. I get that coming to terms with reality is hard, I didn't put the facts there. I didn't make these things happen. You know how it all goes though. I just really hope we're gaining momentum and eventually they wont be able to ignore facts anymore. I really hope.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 12:14 AM
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lol I figure, I was just trying to make light of something, obvious my humor has failed =(.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 10:20 PM
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OK OK Hawaiian punch in the water fountains then!
/r/MensRights03/06/12 12:37 PM
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I'm not sure what that has to do with this article exactly, besides that's just a usual talking point. Please show me how paying a rapist child support isn't oppressive towards men? especially since it would never be the other way around. That women can get pregnant and trap a man, That the family courts are set up to allow women to extort money and is severely disadvantageous to men. That if a woman does trick a man into paying child support then in most stats he can not stop paying child suppo…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 11:07 AM
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I think people who like to ignore facts and pretend things are different from the way they are because unfortunetly reality might shatter their fragile worlds so they shun facts and studies while trying to shame people who point them out and want acknowledgement that something is terribly wrong in the system by calling them "women bashers" are quite paranoid. If you can't except that these are facts, these are real problems. Paying your rapist money for child support is never right, ever, under …
/r/MensRights03/06/12 10:43 AM
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How do you think these laws got lobbied in in the first place? Plus its a pretty common for feminists to defend that it doesn't matter and whatever man a woman picks to be the husband and can convince should then always have to financially support her. But what bothers me the most is the feminist groups the campaign to get laws like these in place and keep them in place. That's really the important part.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 10:22 AM
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just to say, I'm actually a rape victim. that's the only time i'd like to bring that up but thanks for assuming you know something about me. Yeah what I said was callous but I didn't want people to only take that away. If she was raped then yeah that's horrible, but don't demonize the guy. We all make mistakes. Yeah maybe it was a dick move or maybe he had a good reason not to believe her. we don't know so I went by my life experience where similar things have happen. So yeah, thanks asshat for …
/r/MensRights03/06/12 09:55 AM
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Also note, that like i've said they was no female equivalent stated. I couldn't walk in a say "she stopped having sex with me, her fault this marriage didnt work" and expect to be compensated extra. This really is just a shameful way for angry women to get back at men and get more than what they're owed. How some lobbyist group slipped something like that in is beyond me but it really shows that male "privilege" is complete bullshit.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:47 AM
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Oh yeah most definitely, not sure about the abstinence-only guys(they're pretty clear on not wanting to educate people if you ask me). I completely agree though. Awareness is the first step in addressing a problem. I wouldn't want to put all the pressure on the boys or women though simply by scaring them with laws though. I'm sure there could be some way to educate them though where it comes across for what it is, real life consequences that most kids don't really understand. Most kids I've seen…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:42 AM
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Florida. It's a messed up state of affairs down here.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:38 AM
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No sarcasm, what's that, I mean gosh isn't it so obvious that this behavior is perfectly ok and doesn't simply reflect the huge gender bias courts have. Pssh how could that possibly sarcasm. (please read that in your best sarcastic voice, this is the way I have to deal with issues like that because if I didn't try to use humor, I would be incredibly mad and it would ruin my day to know that people out there are perfectly ok with men being raped. It's fucking insane.)
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:37 AM
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Trust me I'm absolutely fine with you disagreeing with me =). This is actually what I kinda like to happen, No personal attacks made, simply stating your beliefs and why you believe them, Who the hell am I to say the whole world has to agree with me and that I could never be wrong? Anyway I completely agree that an abortion should be performed for whatever reason. No matter how bigoted or stupid or frivalous I might think. Fetuses are not humans and I honestly believe that if it keeps a child fr…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:34 AM
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Yes I get what you're saying but you can easily do your own quick google searches to find out that it's actually fairly accurate. At least thats what I took away from it after a little research. Maybe not the best done but I think it still gets it's point across. The world is a fucked up place.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:26 AM
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http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?300597-Boy-Victim-of-Statutory-Rape-Forced-to-Pay-Child-Support-to-Adult-Woman-Rapist http://sexualities.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/male-rape-victims-are-forced-to-pay-child-support-to-their-female-rapists/ Quick google search, I believe they mention specific cases where these precedents have taken place. Yes its completely insane and yet, that is the life of having "male privilege" in this female oppressing "patriarchal" society. It's fucking maddening to…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:24 AM
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Yes, And in most of the one's that it can be overturned, it's a lengthy, expensive process. In which you have to keep paying child support and have no way to recoup money that you already lost and are currently losing if you were scammed. It's really set up so they can squeeze all the money they can out of you even if you have proper reason not to be paying, that at best. At worst it's made so they even if you have a right not to pay, then you can't afford it and taking time off work and the mul…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:19 AM
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The information isnt as readily available as it is for men, In my county there are actually workshops that women can go to, to learn about the laws that they can use to entrap men and force child support on them. Men are actively discouraged from seeking any of this information from the state. It's crazy and yet just as true.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:16 AM
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If I were king for a day, Mountain Dew in all the water fountains!
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:13 AM
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I don't get it.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:12 AM
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Think for yourself man. Don't wait around for people to shove information at you. If this chart sparked interest then look it up, do your own reading and make your mind up about the facts yourself. That's why I'm so angry about it. I look, I read, It doesn't make sense but that doesn't keep most of it from being 100 percent true.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:11 AM
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None of this is new, With a few quick google searches you can find citations for all of this. I suggest you simply take the time to research for yourself and take everything with a grain of salt and make up your mind.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:09 AM
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You know I completely agree, but if a woman can opt out of having the child i.e. abortion or what not because of her own personal reasons, why can't a father opt out for his personal reasons. I think it's a couples choice whether to have a kid and the power in the relationships and in the court of law unfortunetly lands all with the woman. I think a lot of these paternity frauds and entrapment pregnancies would stop if a man could make it clear that hey I don't want a kid, you knew this, I knew …
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:06 AM
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Yay citations. Not that facts actually get us anywhere but it's good to see that in a supposedly hateful group full of women bashing, most people still had a problem reading something that didnt have anything to back it up. It's amazing how people in the moral green can be made to look and feel so terrible sometimes.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 08:02 AM
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Hey man, just look we're all here for you. I know this is just a small community but if anyone out there is gonna look on your situation judgement free(except for the trolls, who really don't even try that hard). I hope you can use some of this support, I've gone through similar things with my sister lying about her ex husband(actually I don't think they're divorced but maybe, its been a few years). She lied and was addicted to drugs, she actually convinced the court to up the child support, mor…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 07:56 AM
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I didn't get that vibe but I don't know. I certainly hope so, poorly written satire is better than the alternative.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 10:31 PM
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Yup and the system just let her skate by. Obvious case of gender bias. Good thing this "patriarchal" society bashes women and is just ever so harsh on them. Man too bad she didn't have any gender privileges to only get a tiny slap on the wrist....oh wait yeah. Good job feminist for condoning child abuse and helping campaign for laws that allowed child abusers off with no jail time and hardly any kind of punishment. Ridiculous
/r/MensRights02/06/12 10:19 PM
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Just to point out, he's been asking this question for a month now, and if you read them his times don't really match up. Pretty Obvious troll now that I think about it. Interesting story but alas gentlemen someone trying to have fun. Weird /r/spacedicks type fun.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:41 PM
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If this really did happen. then yeah I think me and you are the only one's that really understand this type of situation good sir.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:34 PM
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Quick let me on your up boat, Please protect me from zee trolls =). It would be an interesting situation though. Kinda obvious though.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:33 PM
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I don't understand why he would want to get back together with her? I get maybe wanting to set things straight but it would be a horrible thing for them to get back together if you ask me. Also, most likely a troll post so I'm just taking this a hypothetical, you know?
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:31 PM
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You know I see that more as just a guy feeling bad because society says he should. I doubt that anything magically appeared that means she really got raped. It's callous but it's what I believe and unless op wants to deliver, that's what ill keep thinking. I don't know why he wouldn't include this grand piece of knowledge to begin with. You have every right to shame him, I think you're wrong and it speaks a lot about your character but I certainly can't change how you think and what you believe.…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:29 PM
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Complete insanity that all of these things are true. How are males privileged what so ever in this area. What "patriarchal" society set it up that in every instance the father is screwed when it comes to children. How is this not oppression. Why are these things so easily swept under the rug. Any rational person can see how horrible this stuff is the a young man and yet we have people actively fighting to make men pay more and know less. Yes this knowledge is purposefully left out of anything ta…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:25 PM
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Because knowing who the kids father actually is might do a few things. But unfortunately because it might keep the mother from getting money from someone who has nothing to do with the kid or her then their against it. Yup that makes perfect sense. Way to fight for my right to be equal and protected feminists, way to go. Honestly though, I don't even know why this was up for debate, defrauding someone is already a crime, just because a woman does it, why would that make it any different that wha…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:14 PM
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Hooray for my but being just a little bit safer. Forget about the fact that prostate cancer gets half of breast cancer, we have people who actually care about finding a cure for it and not using those donations to line their pockets. This isnt even about sexism, it's just about good old fashioned hard work and the chance the safe people lives. I'm so glad we're making breakthroughs here.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:10 PM
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It's the best thing to do. Be open and honest with how you want things and maybe one day you'll find the right woman. Just don't let anyone shame you for not thinking all women are princesses and all men are scumbags.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:03 PM
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Maybe he had good reasons too. This kind of mentality is why there are thousands of innocent men in prison/went to prison. Just because someone says something horrible happened to them doesn't mean it really did. I don't know the situation and neither do you but automatically shaming the guy and making him out to be the bad guy is a horrid way to look at things. Again you don't know what happend and the circumstances so maybe you should reserve your judgement until you know the whole story.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:01 PM
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I don't get why you wouldn't go straight to the police. That would be number 1 on my list. I know I sound callous and mean most likely but that's not at all how I mean it so please try not to take it that way. That would just be the number 1 thing I would do and it would be the number 1 thing I would take my girlfriend to do. Also I couldn't see how he would raise a rapists kid. He's already said he didn't want the kid and sticking around because you feel bad would just get him into terrible tro…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 08:58 PM
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You did the best thing. Unfortunately you kind of went about it in a very blunt way but I wont fault you for that. Keep the restraining order and simply don't talk to her. There isn't much to say anyway at this point. Yeah you could apologize but that's just going to open a flood gate for ways you could make a bad decision and try and get back together. Something really terrible happened to her but she's making a decision that you can't stand by and that's the end of the relationship. Again it w…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 08:51 PM
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That is truly terrifying. Honestly stuff like that and other cases i've heard about really make me fear meeting new people or being a lone with woman. Because of these women that do despicable acts like false accusations are the reason why I'm going to be single for a long time. It's scary to think of what could happen if I don't cover my ass 24/7.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 08:21 PM
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Ok I see where you're disagreeing and by all means but I don't get how just because it's not a human being at the point you get an abortion doesn't mean it wont grow into a human being. I think with everything that can happen it is a joint decision and just because someone is pro-choice doesn't mean that it makes it a "body part" of the woman. It's exactly what it is, a fetus, and therefor a combination of the man and the woman. A woman can't just fabricate a fetus on her own. If the woman didn'…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 07:28 PM
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Many women see violence against men as funny, or necessary. I imagine many would see the men as getting what they deserved but let a man slap a woman disobeying her and all hell breaks loose. They don't want to see both sides of the argument because they don't care. They truly don't care that men are mainly the victims of violence and to reiterate, actually think it's deserving. This is our society and unfortunately many men are conditioned to think the same way so it's an uphill battle. We need…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:45 PM
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I'm with you in feeling like I should be more outraged but you know, it's a choice. While I don't agree with aborting a baby because of its gender I still dont see fetuses as people and it is the couples prerogative to do what they want. I'd rather a couple have a child of the gender they want than despise the one they have because it came out the opposite of what they want. I think the real problem in abortion comes when the man has to rights and no say in something that is supposedly equally h…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:37 PM
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Not surprising as children are often seen as barganing chips in divorces. When one party gains custody it's often used to extort the other party for money if they want to see the children. Or better yet they just leave the area and make it impossible for the other party to see their children. Since our system is geared toward women getting the kids, usually whether she is a fit mother or not, and the man already having to give most of his money to her in financial support it is not surprising th…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:31 PM
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Just another way to shame men if you ask me. It's like divorcing someone because they have a small penis, or they wont let you cum on their face. This is no one's fault and yet something so degrading can be used against men to make them pay more. Craziness.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:22 PM
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That would be in the same vein as leaving someone for cancer. Of leaving because your wife is frigid. I dont think I could use my wife not sleeping with me as a reason to divorce her. Also how would one prove they weren't impotent, not only is that horribly degrading but I dont get what the point of it is besides to try to shame the husband into not fighting back. If this one point isnt bias against men then I'm not sure what is anymore.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:20 PM
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Completely crazy. I'd like to see the white knights show up and tell me how group sex is somehow a beneficial experience to minors. This is something that really changes the way people view relationships and without the right guidance will really screw a kid up and yet people think that it's ok because it was a woman who raped these young boys and somehow they enjoyed it. Rape is rape people, we need to stop justifying horrible actions like these. It is not ok to drug kids, and its not ok to hav…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:09 PM
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You know from personal experience, women in my life have cheated far more often than men. All of my girlfriends,save for one, cheated on me multiple times. My mother, sisters, and even my grandmother all cheated on their significant others multi times. I've only seen a woman truly admit to cheating when she got pregnant or caught red handed some how. All of them had the same excuse that they werent getting something from their significant other so it was really his fault. Certainly men i know ha…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:04 PM
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I couldnt do it, I really tried but I couldnt read all of it.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:09 AM
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yeah yeah it just bugs me when people say stuff like that, maybe it did get a little carried away. nothing personal you know?
/r/MensRights01/06/12 02:38 AM
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oh well there you go guys, maybe a month back a article could've been posted on the internet. how could anyone ever doubt the validity of your comment with sources like that.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 01:50 AM
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I missed obvious troll =(.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 12:18 AM
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Hey at least the trolls I see in other subreddits have facts and studies to back up the things they say. weak attempt at shaming if you ask for my opinion, which you didn't but ha its the internet so na na na na na na.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 12:14 AM
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Um I just want to point out that all it is where youre money might go, by no means is that a breakdown of where money goes. I.E. It could go to fund all kinds of cancer research, It could also go to fund the pockets of charity organizers. Simply put they really didnt say anything while making it seem like they're explaining something. Sneaky sneaky.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 12:13 AM
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Please, write a letter or something, even if you arent motivated and it seems like a pittance of an effort. Something has to start somewhere to change these kinds of things.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 12:09 AM
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I personally love the "I read somewhere" point of validation. I often to use it when I'm talking about something I don't know about where it sounds like facts, somewhere, might back me up.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 12:06 AM
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that sounds good an well but obviously the levels of false accusation don't go well across the board, punishing someone for falsely accusing someone of stealing a candy bar shouldn't be the same punishment of false accusations of rape. All false accusations should have harsh punishments but an across the board solution wouldn't work.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 05:07 AM
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Yeah its terrible business practice but could there actually be legal action for this? I don't like being addressed as honey by women I don't know but it never occurred to me to sue or anything.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 03:25 AM
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I enjoy the part where she says people can't be outraged if they didnt go through something personally. people are strange.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 12:46 AM
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When men and women's wages are compared that are working the same jobs, women tend to be paid more. If you want to compare that men tend to take riskier jobs and seek different degrees than women, well that's personal choice and not discrimination so why its brought up as such is beyond me.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 09:14 PM
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I don't get how these women pick and choose which facts they want to believe. None have any problem believing men are the primary gender to commit rape, but refuse to believe that women account for half of the domestic violence. Not only that but out right deny these facts. Ever try to tell a woman that 15 percent of rape claims are false accusations, that doesnt even include the unsubstantiated claims or how about that if you include prison rape, 3 times as many men are raped as women. Any fact…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 11:49 AM
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Women on average earn 8-11 percent more than men actually. It's just an accepted lie people use and a very odd phenomenon.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 11:22 AM
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You know I fear that I'll never find a woman to share my life with because of scary policies lie this. Why is it that I need to fear and be mindful of every singles last one of my actions, which doesn't seem to matter if someone has a glass of wine, while if someone says it's a bad idea for a woman to run around naked, blacked out with strangers it's victim blaming. No one should be raped, and no one should have false accusations of rape, but the system is more than happy to throw a man in priso…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 08:45 AM
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I might be making this up, but no one had with hold your child from you without a court order. I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than that but check out the resources the were posted. Don't pay attention to what others say or do, you know you're right. You were victimized and need to stand up for your rights where it matters. I feel for you man and I hope all the world's help to get you by.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:09 AM
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I'm looking at sex changes under a whole new light now
/r/MensRights29/05/12 01:58 PM
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Maybe people just shouldn't make false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 01:12 PM
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nothing, in all honesty she'll most likely write a book about how horrible the media is and how she was still wronged in the process and make even more money than she's already stolen.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 11:56 AM
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Not only that its no big deal, but that it doesn't even happen but .0001 percent of the time. The statistics on how often false accusations happen is alarming to say the least. This is on top of the laws that make it incredibly easy for people making false claims to get away with it so who knows how many men are in prison that don't get counted.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 11:54 AM
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Can you even mildly back that statement up?
/r/MensRights29/05/12 11:47 AM
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Glad someone cleared this up for me
/r/MensRights29/05/12 11:24 AM
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Why would she run for an office that she refused to make descions she needed to? All of this stuff sounds good on paper but personally I think its a terrible principle to behave this way
/r/MensRights29/05/12 11:13 AM
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It's crazy to tell people what they can or can't do with their body. If a person isn't intelligent enough to say no to something they don't want to do then where do we draw the line of things they can't do? They're not children but grown, mature, well informed adults. Peer pressure and objectification or just excuses so that people wont do something someone else is uncomfortable with.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 11:10 AM
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Psychology is never done from a "male" perspective, its done from a human perspective. As is the typical feminist Modus Operandi, if you don't like truth, you can always change it and the wrap it up so you can yell misogynist if someone points out its not true. This isn't about perspective, its about trying the change the truth.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 10:58 AM
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It really bugs me when people use opinions and present them as facts. Why do I only see third party studies and actual corroborative data on men's websites while women get off bashing facts with opinions?
/r/MensRights29/05/12 10:52 AM
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Wow so women evolved without the instinct to procreate, that is amazing. why haven't I heard about this theory in some peer reviews journal? This single statement would change the way sociologists work drastically, among countless other things. Anyway besides how ridiculous that was, let's do a thought experiment. Imagine you broke up/divorced a woman you were having sex with, you wouldn't simply because all your goals are apparently achieve according to this article. Also the fact women cheat j…
/r/MensRights29/05/12 10:39 AM
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Ah no worries mate, you live and you learn. Luckily I was smart enough not to defend myself or try to stop her or I can only imagine what charges she could have trumped up against me.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 10:27 AM
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Yeah its on a whole other level with people thinking men should be able to take hits from women. I had an ex girlfriend throw kitchen knives at me, push me down the stair in the apartment I was paying for, and hit me with a car. After she hit me with the car I called the cops and besides just saying that I'm a man and I need to toughen up, I told me that if anyone was going to go to jail that night it was me, because she said I hit her even though she had no marks and her and obviously I didn't.…
/r/MensRights29/05/12 10:12 AM
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Can't expect women to use common sense without somehow being a victim blamer. I found that out the hard way and almost got lynched because I thought going and getting black out drunk with strangers, alone was a bad idea. I actually got punched in the face a few times for that. Good times.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 10:04 AM
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