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CollaterLDamage/r/RedPillBooks24/10/16 09:03 AM
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to put it simply, be sexual. be willing to joke and tease. most importantly be willing to get rejected. if you grew up with women you probably know alot about making women comfortable, they will generally feel "safe" with you. its not bad, but comfort doesnt build attraction. when you get her talking do 2 things, when she talks about her interest, tease her alittle on it. " oh youre into psychology , you just want to learn to manipulate people dont you?" youre not trying to piss her off or reall…
/r/seduction15/04/20 04:27 AM
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thats because people dont all have the same problem. guy A is hooked on 1 girl, but otherwise well adjusted. guy B is bad with women and has never really talked to any beyond his mother. he needs to understand women guy C is socially retarded and has no male or female friends and needs groundwork to learn to be human. guy D only socialized with women and doesnt know how to "be a man" he just needs a mindset adjustment. there isnt a magic bullet. there is a groundwork we may all follow, whether s…
/r/seduction14/04/20 11:35 PM
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it really hasnt. ill say having some form of social media helps, but it isnt that hard to treat it like a shit test if you dont. next time you go out, try it. just make up a name or even better give them your "nickname" and if they ask about your, facebook, snapp, insta, watsapp etc. treat it like a shit test.
/r/seduction14/04/20 11:08 PM
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sex is an animal desire, not a logical one. people are going to want to fuck, whether its dangerous or not. a dry spell will only make people hungrier for it. Take advantage of technology and social media. people are still going to find a way to socialize. This also gives an easy topic to talk about with any stranger. people get bored and lonely way too easily, this virus isnt going to change that
/r/seduction12/03/20 10:26 PM
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youre "putting the pussy on the pedestal" youre both overvaluing a strangers opinion of you and inflating the meaning of rejection. youre trying to be all nice and showing interest, this is good but you need to not do it first, instead, try to get her to tell you why you should be intrested in her. I dont want you to be blunt about this, i want you to keep it in the back of your mind. " what has she done to earn my interest" before you ask her number, or ask her out, ask yourself that question. …
/r/seduction11/01/20 02:14 AM
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ahh, a 4 channer i see
/r/seduction18/12/19 02:06 AM
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she gave you her number. whatever nonsense you may believe, she just told you you're in her league. take her off the pedestal. your looks already opened the door. your frame got you the number. now take some time to find if shes actually likeable or is she more like marble art; real pretty but dull as a rock.
/r/seduction14/12/19 04:54 PM
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not attraction, close/fuck ( or is that what you meant?) 9-10 basically requires near perfect game. physically attractive and healthy, financially well and calm, tons of interesting life experience, and of course, a knack for reading social cues.
/r/seduction17/11/19 02:00 PM
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ive seen his vids. its not that he doesnt get rejected, its that he gets rejected less. even the best batters rarely hit a perfect season. you will NEVER resch a point where you get every girl you approach, its about turning 0 in 100 down to 1 in 50 down to 1 in 10..even the best of them consider 1 in 5 great. the issue is people not being realistic
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:24 PM
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im willing to admit ss game isnt something i really do but it sounds like youre not really doing it right. Its supposed to be an add on to day and (mostly) night game. you meet them through game, realize you cant quiet close but you didnt leave a bad impression so, you throw her in the circle. You now have her sitting in the reserves. now you go out on a random night and invite a bunch from the circle and treat it as another shot, but mostly use them as proof so you can pick up more. social circ…
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:12 PM
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as a person who actually does both, im going to say it's not. each has its own benefit but one is not better than the other. daygames benefit is that it can be done the other 16 hours of the day and can be put into your natural life. you talk to the girl at the light,the barista at the coffee shop, the girl on the bus . it also puts you in a more social mood so it can lead up into nightgame. ironically, people who explicitly daygame usually treat it like an event. instead of talking to everyone,…
/r/seduction16/11/19 01:25 PM
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This is the thing, you won't truly know what you want till you get it. Some just want pussy, then they get it and it's not it. They get a sexy girl and that's not it. They get an obedient girl and that's not it. Then you'll try something you thought you wouldn't like, like being romantic and you kinda liked it. Or you hook with a funny, ugly girl and find you're actually having a good time. But you would've never found out without playing around first.
/r/seduction11/11/19 02:30 PM
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i knew a guy who wore a full easter; pink, green, and blue outfit.I was actually impressed with the style.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/19 01:50 AM
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attention is good 90% of the time.The important part is how you use it. when people respond to it, you treat it like a shit test. typically, if you hit with the agree-amplify, they will laugh. the fact they are laughing means they are "comfortable". They have volunteered conversation, now you have to steer it.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/19 01:48 AM
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If you ain't getting your money back, you should definitely go. 2 big things you can get out of it. 1. People on the same page and level as you. 2. You can here people talk about there sticking points. Your end game is to find your weakness and fix it. Seduction may be a fluid art but even water follows a flow. Fuck the coaches, talk with the other people there. Make friends. You'll meet people who are good and trying to get better and people who wipe there ass by reaching there hand over there …
/r/seduction30/10/19 06:33 PM
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Guys my age are done with approaching. the ones that were born with a normal penis yes, you were born with an inverted penis. also called a pussy. I buy skincare products in Sephora and this girl there puts on a show everytime I come, stands two inches away from me and puts stuff on my face, smiles, to drive me crazy. I am a good spender there :lol:. I think of asking her out, maybe if I was 20 years younger this bait is delicious.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/19 01:28 AM
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when was the last time you actually went up to a women in person. describe what happened in your approaches. If you tell me you havent been approaching in person, then you are literally retarded.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/19 01:11 AM
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someone else tried doing this on telegram.
/r/seduction22/09/19 01:14 AM
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think /r/niceguys
/r/seduction22/09/19 01:13 AM
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say hello is not a book. its a short video and there series is just a collection of short videos
/r/RedPillBooks12/09/19 02:06 AM
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Link? I only saw a small place of the OkCupid data. Didn't see it all and didn't even know there was data for tinder.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/19 11:27 PM
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Being genuine in direct game is saying. " "Hey we should fuck" . In bull's case, asking for money straight out. It gets more rejections but it's quicker. I know it's not the point but I'm going to tell you why ""bull's"shit" really doesn't work. It's not about being genuine, it's about piquing the others interest. In bull's case, if after talking about the hat he had a back and forth talking basketball, you can be pretty sure he'd get some money when he dropped the bomb. Vs talking ball with a g…
/r/seduction02/08/19 05:25 PM
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why not just keep it out of one ear? youre overthinking this. get these if anything https://www.amazon.com/s/130-9399847-4686628?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=wireless%20earbuds&index=blended&link_code=qs&sourceid=Mozilla-search&tag=mozilla-20
/r/seduction27/07/19 07:45 PM
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The people reading this. Take a moment and really ask yourself, why? If you must, say it out loud. "Why?" feel like someones judging you? why does there opinion matter? is it helping you improve? This job pays shit- why are you still here? what are you doing to get out, move up? . like the people? Can you meet them outside work? are you okay with your life stopping here? why are you so afraid of this world?
/r/seduction23/07/19 11:09 PM
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You can figure it out. The issue is thinking logically. In the end, its the same, not really worth the effort. The 3 most popular reasons. Validation. She needs to feel pretty,she"ll do the flirting to win you over. The kiss means she got it ( validated) and she's done. It's somewhat rare that women take the initiative. Bad read. She was having fun but saw you as a friend and you overcommitted. This means you need to take more time getting to know them. Aka triggering the slut shield. She's not …
/r/seduction23/07/19 02:26 PM
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The fact that you say its incel logic shows that you know its bullshit. I cant convince you it's wrong but youre definitely aware that it is.There are men here whove easily have been rejected by women hundreds of times. youve fully embraced that youre a unlovable worthless piece of shit and youre in too deep to change that. if anyone compliments you " there lying" or "being nice". if you fail a few times " it doesnt work" this is bullshit". and then you probably have oneitis with a girl either y…
/r/seduction20/07/19 12:32 AM
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That's good, you are willing to change. Self improvement So your weakness is appearance. What have you done to fix that? Changed clothes? Styled hair? Lost weight? Fixed posture? Trained your voice? How many women have you approached, talk to, flirted with? How many have actually called you ugly?
/r/seduction19/07/19 09:21 PM
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am very happy being single On r/seduction. It's ok. You don't have to lie here. I'm sure you're aware, you're issue is confidence in yourself. If you got some courage ( liquid version isn't bad but you learn slower) talk with ugly women. You don't have to fuck every girl you talk with, nor call every number you get. You simply want to practice getting the number. Learning to socially calibrate and being human. After that, you can work your way up the scale.
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:57 PM
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That's a high insta-rejection rate for indirect. Look up opinion openers and time constraints. In all honesty I would say opening isn't that big an issue. I think your issue is disqualifying. You've made big strides to win them but they've made none to win you. You've got the skill to get the girls to chase you. The freindzone is where you usually end up when you give a women validation without her having to work for it. A little more push and a little less pull and you should be golden.
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:45 PM
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Yeah but direct can screw you over just because the friend is being bitchy. You'd get rejected, not because she didn't like you, but because her friend. If you're going to get rejected. It should be by the girl you're hitting on, not some 3rd party. It's also why flirting with both is even better but you don't want to be too flirty with the ugly one as the freind may attempt to hook you guys up instead.
/r/seduction19/07/19 11:24 AM
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Some are. Humans are creatures of habit. Even Reddit and seduction can become addictive. Especially if you get no social validation outside of it.
/r/seduction19/07/19 11:06 AM
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You can't logic someone out of something they didnt logic themselves into. You can grab your stray and try to housetrain it but it really depends how consumed they are by it. beauty is a big part in seduction but is practically nothing compared to social fluency. These people, generally speaking, are socially retarded and will push away ideas that go against there preconceptions. They wont accept pussy if you straight out buy it for them. They have standards that are deep in the realm of fantasy…
/r/seduction18/07/19 11:41 PM
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you should improve your living space for yourself but TBH it's not that important in seduction. important thing in seduction is owning up to that shit before you get there. you can say you just moved in, or joke about it but if its barron or trashy, you need to say it. You can treat it all as a shit test as well. The reason the appearance is not that important is pretty simple, if you got her to your house then she was pretty much DTF. the important thing is your room. A tv/laptop to watch shit,…
/r/seduction18/07/19 11:17 PM
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going indirect is better IMO. Having something simple that gets conversation going is better than being blunt and then running dry on conversation. The Key thing to know, direct or indirect, is that you make conversation with both of them. You can tell her straight out you find her attractive, you can tell them that they both are and make them "compete" against eachother but if you ignore there friend, 9-10 times the friend will get bored and tell the other friend to leave. you can flirt and foc…
/r/seduction18/07/19 11:00 PM
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this isnt a eat/shit scenario. he doesnt work with them, they're customers. if things go bad, whether you met her at work or not, she can go crazy and follow you to work anyway. if you work with them and have a bad breakup, you cant avoid them.
/r/seduction18/07/19 10:44 PM
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If she's that pretty think about how many men have hit on her before he did. She probably has been "hot" since she hit puberty. So she has to deal with horny boys in high school, parties and clubs after high school and maybe college. You know what's a fast way to sort through all those people? Shit tests. It's like a job interview with thousands of applicants. That's why you take it at the beginning, you are trying to get past those stupid " where do you see yourself in 5 years" questions. Once …
/r/seduction18/07/19 02:20 PM
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Yeah IME day game is way harder. some say otherwise but thats my experience. The trade off is competition. in night game people are generally there with the sole purpose of flirting. On that same note, that is why indirect/opinion game works so well. it doesnt come from somewhere sexual. it comes from curiosity and having an opinion can get someone talking, on top of giving something to joke and tease about. Do you remember the last time someone asked you for directions?. how much did it piss yo…
/r/seduction02/07/19 12:08 AM
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It's too bad we can't record history. At the heart of it, both , the long college approach and the cold approach are the same. In college, you still use an opener, you still have to get her interested in you. You still need to build comfort and seduce her. The time is an illusion. At first you'll say hi spend a minute or two talking about nothing, then bounce. Next time you'll ask her something a little more personal, joke around, then bounce then you'll see her again and this point ask her out.…
/r/seduction01/07/19 01:04 PM
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if youre concerned about sjw's you mustve had some fairly violent rejections. If you havent had any violent rejections then the problem is in your head. sjw's arent people who just say " i have a boyfriend" theyre the ones who take offense to flirtation. if you havent dealt with those, you havent dealt with sjw's. daygame, especially toms way. is brute force pick up. the mystery method is more subtle but takes longer on 1 approach. approaching alone is hard but you clearly are self aware. trial …
/r/seduction01/07/19 03:47 AM
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The approach is only the opener. It's not meant to do anything more than open up conversation. it will not get you pussy. its only purpose is to open the door. asking for directions in itself is not that bad.The smoothness of the transition matters. if you just jump topic, it just gives off a deceptive vibe. if you flirted, it initially should at least apply to her style. something related to what you actually asked her. still, asking directions is not that good. look at the one i sent you last …
/r/seduction01/07/19 02:47 AM
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the truth is for men as is for women. it's not what you say but how you say it. its like when a person doesnt know better and you say " hey we should screw around and say dumb shit to get rejected" and that "dumb shit" works. You didnt tell them it would, but you fractured there reality.a small nugget of doubt, that lets them question it themself "why did that work?". If you tell them straight out "do this". if they dont straight out reject it ( for going against there common sense), they'll sti…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/19 12:48 AM
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I want to agree with this but the only reason im aware of TRP is because how popular it had gotten. You don't know what you don't know until someone says it
/r/TheRedPill30/06/19 05:52 PM
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an indirect approach is basically making casual conversation instead of starting off by flirting/complimenting. heres an example https://www.theattractionforums.com/showthread.php?t=73 The idea is to open with something that you can get an opinion on and get a feel for there personality It does without actually showing sexual interest. Theres a bunch more in fine details but that would unnecessarily complicated. just try indirect/opinion openers (stick with one or two, you dont really need that …
/r/seduction29/06/19 03:36 PM
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either man up or go indirect. You could say sorry for hitting on his girl, or approach in a way that lets you find out if that guy is his girl or just with the girl. you can use an opinion opener and when the guy walks in, instead of freezing up, you invite his opinion on the topic.in that last case, its pretty obvious that her boyfreind but if they are just a girl and a guy walking, try the indirect, you never know if theyre friends or relatives.
/r/seduction29/06/19 02:32 PM
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could be, or she could just want to try other positions. What would lead you to that conclusion?
/r/seduction25/06/19 01:08 AM
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You're in your head, that's your issue. Odds are, you're walking away, rejecting yourself before they reject you. If you feel it slipping, say whatever pops into your head, you got nothing to lose at that point. On 1. Learn an opinion opener . Just 1 .it's something that'll give you an easy conversation starter. On 2. Silence works when you've spent some time building rapport and now they're pulling you. Otherwise, you should try guessing things about them. DON'T WALK AWAY. Don't reject yourself…
/r/seduction22/06/19 12:54 PM
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Cognitive behavioral therapy ( CBT) is pretty much all about that. Changing yourself all on your own takes a strong will. The biggest issue I've seen with anxious people is how they deal and define failure . A large ego protected by a shell of fear. Failure for them is not getting the results they expected. That's not a failure in science, sports or even games. Failure is not getting any results. It's making a mistake in an experiment vs not conducting it. It's not lifting heavy enough weights v…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/19 05:59 PM
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It was so weird. One time I was playing a game and it felt like there was literally a hole in my chest. I was trying to pull something from it. To feel the way it used to feel but it hurts to waste time now.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/19 05:33 PM
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What you're talking about is well known in the community. It's called mental masturbation. At least that's what it's called for those who don't go in the field. Talking technique with people is fine. It's a game and some people just enjoy it for what it is. Look at any game/sport community, it's the same. On knowledge, reading something once isn't enough for it to stick on the average person. To get good at something, you make it a habit and recheck yourself to make sure you aren't slacking. For…
/r/seduction12/06/19 06:47 PM
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That is very true. I was going off the fact that most people can ask directions with no problem. If even that gives you anxiety, your only hope is therapy or drugs.
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:00 PM
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That's not true. Despite the competition, women are more receptive during night game than day. Those 2-3 hours will more likely get you a same day lay. In day game you won't get 2-3 hours. Those 15 minutes in day game are usually after an hour of rejection. On top of the fact that you'll get rejected more often, you'll spend more time trying to get them to warm up to you because they're sober. People are more relaxed after a drink and in a club, flirtation is expected. Most importantly, in a clu…
/r/seduction02/06/19 04:56 PM
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If a girl is sick of it, it's not from approachs as much as it is BAD approachs. You can always go indirect if you're that nervous.
/r/seduction02/06/19 02:31 AM
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I approach but still have anxiety. The first one or two always have my mind in a jumble.
/r/seduction02/06/19 02:29 AM
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When I was in NY I've seen a guy do daygame once ever. To be honest, I had no idea he was even having them till he said some lines I've heard before. Otherwise, I would've thought they were regular people hanging out . I also wouldn't say day game is king. Daygame usually requires more work than night game. The trade off is less competition and the fact that you don't have to wait for the right time.
/r/seduction02/06/19 02:25 AM
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Kino. basically you do those things and see how she responds.talking about sex is usually a good indicator for attraction just a general thing. kino is you touching her and testing how she reacts. There was probably indicators but you were too in the moment. nothing wrong with that.lets say you grab her hand when youre walking, if you loosen and she tightens, its a small indicator saying "stay". push/pull is just teasing her and complimenting her. There's not really universal IOI's. There's just…
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:00 AM
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The way to think about it is like this. Call it a slut shield, they'll flip. calling it shyness and her wanting you to "be a man"and step up. suddenly its cool. saying "we got lost in the passion of the moment" vs saying " i fucked her right there" will give you 2 different responses despite saying the same fucking thing.
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:14 AM
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Tease and flirt . The physicality and the nature of the tease is less sexual initially you do need to be sexual but it's less immediate than you would do with someone who's been drinking and relaxed
/r/RedPillBooks12/05/19 05:48 PM
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The difference in day and night game is more a matter of speed than technique. The average person will be a bit more reserved about there sexuality when they are sober. The moment you see quality women you need to be willing to talk either direct or indirect. Odds are, to be honest, you won't have the balls to do daygame. Clubs and bars are typically for people looking to fuck( looking to fuck and looking to fuck you are 2 different things). Women in yoga class, or in the train are not there loo…
/r/RedPillBooks12/05/19 12:43 PM
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I hate how true these are. You follow these rules, you're gold. Being connected yet hard is difficult.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/19 01:13 PM
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You need some social calibration. Male or female, the way you articulate your thoughts will heavily effect the message. It's not what you say it's how you say it. You've become a victim of your own lizard brain
/r/seduction10/05/19 03:48 PM
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going from asking the time to soft flirting is a big step.nothing fundamentally wrong, but the big jump is what typically causes anxiety burn out Lets fix the first issue i noticed. you are waiting for them to be alone. STOP THAT. This isnt the sexual step, this is just the being human step. Ask 5 people for the time or directions. This shouldnt make you nervous at all. there is nothing sexy about asking for the time and nothing offensive about it in any way. when you ask a pretty woman for the …
/r/seduction04/05/19 12:41 AM
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option A. clean the shit up and get women. option B dont clean the shit up and beat your meat. your call
/r/seduction04/05/19 12:22 AM
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If you got a spot to share, I been meaning to check out "The system"
/r/seduction02/05/19 05:20 PM
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Todd v. Haven't purchased his content but his YouTube videos are spot on. He actually shows infield accompanied with his videos.
/r/seduction02/05/19 12:34 PM
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the point i was making with that is the way you classify people in your head is the way you will feel about them. Example: you go out with a girl and sleep with her, a week later, you find she's your long lost sister.Would you keep sleeping with her? Most people would say no. Nothing changed beyond how you class her. With the ex, there needs to be the mental shift from ex- lover to old friend.
/r/seduction02/05/19 02:17 AM
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Whats that? is also an acceptable answer.
/r/seduction02/05/19 12:48 AM
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you find someone else. It's hard to get over those feelings when they're all you have or you see them as better than you. Some (most) men when a girl breaks up with them, they see it as something they did wrong and not just a connection issue. Not everyone has the emotional maturity to get over a breakup but it's fairly easy when you find someone else you like. The people who have the biggest issue are the ones who still believe in "the one"AKA oneitis. You love your family, you love your friend…
/r/seduction02/05/19 12:45 AM
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Dont forget the time constraint and make sure you have a way to shorten the opener. I dont recommend using the sister unless you intend on talking about the sister. If you have no sister just say a friend. Having just bullet points on the opener is better than a concrete opener because you can customize it to your natural style. saying a script infield is sometimes difficult and others get approach anxiety trying to remember a script. most importantly, this script is from the mystery method, odd…
/r/seduction02/05/19 12:21 AM
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the difference between a best friend and a girlfriend is you dont stick your dick in them, its really not all that complicated. It only works on the condition that the other parties are sexually satisfied. its why couples can easily be friends with other couples
/r/seduction02/05/19 12:04 AM
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I'm not a real relationship person either but if there's anything I've actually gotten out of this it's that changing is possible. I personally don't want to right now but it's possible.
/r/seduction29/04/19 07:36 PM
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Look up Todd v approach anxiety. He seems to cover it pretty well
/r/seduction29/04/19 07:33 PM
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In seduction, looks don't matter. If you never get a girl, it's not your looks fault. Looks mean you can get a higher quality girl. What matters is social skills. Can you go up to her and say hi. Is she in your head or are you in control. Can you tease, escalate, kino, entertain. Fat men get women, crackheads get women, but gym bro and Mr high society can still get rejected. Looks matter to the extent of deformity. Being unable to communicate or express yourself means the only way you'll get a w…
/r/seduction29/04/19 05:53 PM
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Keyword is worthy. What do they consider worthy?
/r/seduction29/04/19 03:00 PM
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if your voice sounds sexual and flirty. it makes perfect sense that girls would love it and guys would think its gay
/r/seduction29/04/19 01:17 AM
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A club is an easy place to meet women who like to drink, dance, show off there body. generally young and high energy. It's mostly a place to meet people (for men and women really) who just want to fuck. If you want to meet t an adventurous girl, who likes to hike, go the gym. go for runs. you'd have better odds at a 5k then a bar. You can find all kinds of people everywhere but if you want to find a women who does certain things, the best place usually would be at those things.
/r/seduction29/04/19 12:48 AM
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good if you want to keep her but not all that much is necessary if you want to just sleep with her. Being an interesting person is always a good thing.In reality, as far as your room goes, it just needs to be neat.personally, i try to keep her out of my room unless its for sex. If she feels its going too fast, i wont want her asking me all about my room, it'll kill the mood. its easier to just find something on netflix and snuggle up till she feels ready. Candles is a definite yes.
/r/seduction29/04/19 12:21 AM
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not more so but some women do make approaches. I'm actually surpised , you might be in a pretty good school. I don't believe in cold approaching females during the middle of the day. I think it looks desperate and it hardly ever leads to anything substantial. I disagree but this might be a details thing. If youre saying you only do night game, as in, you only do approachs t bars and clubs then i'd say youre missing out and using your rejections as an excuse for fear. If you only go to clubs, all…
/r/seduction29/04/19 12:09 AM
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tease and disqualify. if a girl says your muscles are huge or something tell her "yeah, and if you need someone to open pickle jars for you im starting at 5 bucks a jar. have some fun What makes you think youre being too blunt or too nice?
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:54 PM
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good on you but i'd be careful with any drugs. If you can't get it up, you could eat her out, play with her, finger her .ect, until you can get it up. For the refractory period, eating out is typically off the table but you could still use your hand or get sex toys. im not saying dont pop the meds, just letting you know theres options
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:33 PM
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You can get there numbers. odds are maybe 3/4 were fake. He still would only get friendzoned if he had no social game. Also a girl with low self esteem may take what she can get.
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:26 PM
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Most people buckle under the pressure of there own anxiety at malls. its a good spot but i think it will be difficult for you. Having a buddy to hangout at a bar, club or party should be easier. If you dont have a buddy, look for other school social events, just make friends with guys and girls. that way you can ask them about parties and other stuff like that.
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:12 PM
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Look up videos on youtube for approach anxiety,i think you'll have that issue to work on as well. In meeting people, you have college, social events like festivals and Meetups, clubs, parks, and bars. technically the moment you see someone thats your chance but these are events "designed" to meet people. This is the beginning, just go out there and take your hits.No matter how much you read (which there's plenty) it wont stick until you start going out there and doing it.
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:08 PM
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your issue ; it's your words. If she feels intimidated by your muscle its because what youre saying is making her uncomfortable.It could also be the way you dress. next time you talk to a girl, try to write down what happens.
/r/seduction28/04/19 11:02 PM
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this isnt a bad thing, it means you need to calibrate what you say accordingly.The fact that her initial opinion was wrong will warm her up that much more.
/r/seduction28/04/19 10:55 PM
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being tall, much like being muscular, or being tanned,or well dressed, it doesnt mean shit if you cant go up and just talk. The issue isnt your height, it could be the way you dress or you just dont know how to hold conversations yet.
/r/seduction28/04/19 10:53 PM
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be yourself is bullshit but they are right on 1 front, you need to go out there and have fun. women will come to you in college if you look good and are having fun. Don't wait for them to come to you. just keep eating those anxiety punches, that other girl seemed okay with you but you rejected yourself. Find your weaknesses then come back here.You can walk up to her, and you can talk to her. figure out why you rejected yourself and what you felt you were supposed to do.
/r/seduction28/04/19 10:49 PM
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Don't. Now ive never been speed dating but if i went off of movies it's basically 5 minutes to show your personality.Focus more on making that short time fun, teasing, doing DHV, disqualifying her, etc.You need to make it so shat she has to win you, not you win her. Your "kino" will be non physical. Things like eye contact and posture. after that time, when you guys choose whether or not to continue can you actually start getting closer
/r/seduction28/04/19 10:40 PM
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it means she finds you attractive. Usually women willing to be that honest consider you friend (ie friendzone). Her calling you gay seems like a shit test but it also tends to mean you dress well. This actually could be very usefull advice for you. If i had to guess your weakness based on this conversation, it would actually be pretty obvious; You aren't seducing the women. simplified- seduction can be broken into 3 parts. attraction, comfort and seduction. You are stuck at comfort, this is the …
/r/seduction28/04/19 10:28 PM
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only if you fapped instead of going out.
/r/seduction28/04/19 10:09 PM
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This can be very easy or very hard. The beginning for most men is the fear of approaching. If you have no problem walking up to women and saying "hey, i just thought you were cute and wanted to talk to you" then progress might actually be fairly quick. If the thought of doing that fills you with dread and fear, then this will take a bit longer.
/r/seduction26/04/19 02:03 AM
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Poetry? You didn't answer my question. What did she do to earn your number? I hear a lot of " me" and zero her. What made her interesting enough for you to give her your number? Learn more about the people you talk to. Find something you like and don't like. From what you've said, she did nothing to earn your approval and you just used her to vent your life story. Next time you're out chatting find out what makes them special. I personally would hold back the poetry but you're out there talking.…
/r/seduction26/04/19 01:48 AM
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do you know the push-pull method? I hear a lot of giving but not a lot of taking. what did she do to earn your number?
/r/seduction25/04/19 11:11 PM
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look up daygame to see people who are good at it. to see people who are bad at it, hang out by a university with homeless people near it. or listen to the stories of women being catcalled or men driving up to them to flirt on them. it doesnt happen often, sober people are usually fearful. typically only the crazy ones have the balls to step up. approach anxiety is the great wall of mans heart. once you get over your fear, youll realize anytime is a good time.
/r/seduction06/04/19 09:49 PM
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in your country, is it considered creepy to talk to women. to have regular conversation? done right, thats what it seems like initially the progression is what matters. if it was creepy to talk to strangers the only thing people would fuck is family and cousins. someone needs to step out the box.
/r/seduction06/04/19 09:43 PM
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A frequent thing you'll hear both on this sub and real life is, find someone who you share a hobby with. You don't know if that person is the Love of your life or even a great workout buddy. I say this time and time again; don't reject your self for her. Let her reject you. Desperation is a mind state, it's not location based. Some say " don't eat where you shit" as a way to stop pick up at work. You don't know anyones story until you ask. Not picking up a girl because of other peoples perceptio…
/r/seduction06/04/19 05:46 PM
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if its douchey it means your timing and technique sucks. There is no bad time. (although some times can be considered bad taste) most say dont approach at a gym because you need to focus on your workout, gym time is should be you time. a good conversation could improve someones day. i dont know many people who would call improving someones day douchey.you can play it soft/ be indirect. make some light conversation and end it with some flirty humor. you dont need to close the same day, you can te…
/r/seduction06/04/19 03:22 PM
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this is called indirect game. its well know for having a higher success rate. the issue with it is that you need to take a little more time before stating your intentions, ie asking her out. direct game is fast sorting, it will get you rejected a bunch of times but will quickly find you a girl on the same page.
/r/seduction06/04/19 03:11 PM
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learning game increases your odds of success. heres some things you can do for perspective. go out.choose anywhere youd see a lot of women pass by. youre going to be a creep today. look at how many of those women get approached let alone hit on. think about how many you see pass by before one even gets approached. then reduce how many are just passing compliments. then reduce the ones who are obviously flirting vs just making talk. it'll give you a real eye opener especially in the day. you do t…
/r/seduction06/04/19 03:01 PM
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the tried and true saying " shes not yours, its just your turn"
/r/seduction02/04/19 03:02 AM
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Theres also conversational momentum. Say hi to regular strangers, male or female. not because you want to hit on them or anything, just to break the silence. when you do go to talk to someone you find attractive, it should come easier.
/r/seduction30/03/19 10:58 PM
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if youre depressed and lack confidence then it could be your posture and voice. if you sound nervous and scared most women hear " hey i want to fuck you but im scared of getting rejected" it makes them uncomfortable. you can learn to pretend to be confident but you should look into therapy if you cant figure a way to take care of yourself. talk with your co-workers, dont be afraid of being embaressed, learn to talk to people. 2 books i always reccomend are "the charisma myth" and " how to win fr…
/r/seduction27/03/19 02:59 AM
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Do you think you might have resting bitch face? always look angry? what are you saying to them? and are you overreading the situation.they might not be cold, you may just suck at conversations giving them nothing to say? it could be a few things but since they warm up to you over time, it means the problem is you and not them, otherwise theyd never warm up to you. what i believe is happening now is, over time, they learn about you and finally can relate to you. now that they have common ground, …
/r/seduction27/03/19 01:27 AM
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The ranking is purely looks based. You either do it consciously or unconsciously. There's been genuine research into the rule of 3 and ranking. It's what men and women rate eachother. Based on how people ranked the opposite sex chose someone within 3 ranks, without knowing there personal rank. Personal attitudes are self ranking. The psychological issue isn't what you rate others. It's what you rate yourself. Now here's the thing with certain 9s. Some attractive women are bombarded by men and ar…
/r/seduction24/03/19 03:09 PM
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That works for maybe 50-60% of guys.What people forget are how many hobbies are anti-social.Being confident in chess MAY net you a women but in the end, a hobby in itself wont get you a girl. the key skill is socializing. The "alpha mentality" is to teach a recluse to get out of there shell and stop being walked on. You are right, there is a variety of women, some who like a man they can step on , and some women who want to be stepped on. Those tricks and mannerisms are just things shown to have…
/r/seduction24/03/19 03:27 AM
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the problem is people who put pussy on the pedestal. get sex out your system. virgins glorify pussy. everyone wants a model girlfriend until they realize she's less interesting than the back of a cereal box. put your dicks brain to sleep so you can find something for your upper brain
/r/seduction24/03/19 03:08 AM
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turn it into a joke. treat it like a shit test. " i can't handle another stalker" if you have no choice. get the social but dont make her priority.try setting something up for the near future and if nothing, move on.
/r/seduction24/03/19 03:03 AM
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it does you no harm to shoot the shit with women. if you cant at least get the number of a 6, how the hell are you expecting to hold a conversation with a 9. what works on moderate girls works on sexy ones. a cocky 6 and 9 are the same except one wont seem worth the effort.
/r/seduction24/03/19 02:53 AM
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A lot of people who come here are too in there heads, thats why they need structure.they need lines and "alpha' mannerisms to guide them. next time youre in a club, step back and look around, you'll see the fearfull wallflowers, the dead conversationalist and the just painfully awkward. telling someone to be themself is like saying the cure for depression is to stop being sad. You can't be overweight and expect to get an attractive, fit girl. You gotta hold yourself to the same standard you want…
/r/seduction24/03/19 02:47 AM
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if your looking for alternate avenues of sex, theres no reason not too. if you are putting high effort into anything but the initial profile, go outside. unless youre ugly, you have no reason to limit yourself
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 09:50 PM
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That's true but if you are in the friendzone, it's fundamentally because you are an AFC. Sure, I'm well aware there's no princess waiting in a castle to be saved but having oneitis comes from that belief: that she can be " saved". An AFC may be willing to be more interesting but they won't " cheat". That's why I'm curious about the other way. It shouldn't work but to my knowledge there hasn't been many tests similar to yours.
/r/seduction13/03/19 07:53 PM
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It does but on average I'm sure the average person here is instead wasting there time jerking off, watching shows they don't remember, playing games they don't like and generally sticking to bullshit things that neither make them happy or move them forward in life. It won't take much more than the time that's usually wasted. An 8 hour work day and 8 hours sleep is still 8 hours to screw around. Maybe you work an hour away. Then you just go to a gym or park that's on route. Let's say, 4 hours lef…
/r/seduction13/03/19 02:08 PM
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It was a good experiment but it wouldn't work for an AFC. The AFC wants to fuck her and only her. They wouldn't want to fuck other women to get her. If you do another experiment, try it without mentioning other women. The " interesting life" style. I think the more important lesson here is that if you're talking with a girl and she just wants to be friends, don't just drop her, except it. You just continue fucking other women in the meantime. Talking about the other women you fucked. Besides, if…
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:29 PM
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There's a reason most CEO"s are sociopaths
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:08 PM
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a small and simple thing to remember. when you ask for there number, make a plan. you should think of something (pretty much anything) that you can do together later on. the thing being done can be vague but you need to choose a time. something a bit harder to remember. ask for the number in the middle of the conversation , same thing, you plan the time, but you dont end the conversation with it. letting the thought simmer for a bit while you talk should improve your odds when you leave.
/r/seduction01/03/19 03:02 AM
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creepiness is a matter of attractiveness. whats sexy and funny is creepy and rude if you are ugly and antisocial. alcohol lowers the standard and allows you to get away with more for both sexes.
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:29 PM
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you can take 2 paths. step it back, start off by making some guy friends and learn to resocialize as a normal person.Its a valuable skill knowing how to just shoot the shit, mostly because what you say doesnt matter that much, its how you say it. follow a script, use "canned" material. This is what the old "legends" used to do. We all have freeze ups, having some basic material to fall back to is a good way to break in to conversations. once you warmed up and acclimated,you can then write your o…
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:19 PM
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The difference between a pua and regular Joe is study. Men used to only gain information from there 'friends. Now you have a full strategy guide.what works, when it works, how often. In retrospect, it's an exploitation of an animals psychology. At it's heart, to be a skilled seducer is to be a talented manipulator. Normal people don't want to hear that, and those with natural talent won't want to believe it. It's always been about steering the conversation for your benefit or theirs. It's not ab…
/r/seduction20/02/19 08:01 PM
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Note on during the pull. Dont come off as indecisive. You should invite her to a place to fuck but you need to be the leader AND give her deniability. its to prevent "slut shaming" if she says " lets go to your place" her freinds might call her slutty. convenienlty inviting her to see a movie you like gives plausability. she likes you sexually but is not being explicitley pressured. kino should have been done eariler on.
/r/seduction19/02/19 01:10 AM
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With a instafuck , yeah. You want to stack. It's the equivalent of the "yes chain". The trade-off is lower closing odds and a lower chance of a 2nd date. It is possible to play it off by announcing how " crazy" the whole situation is and saying you want to"slow things down". In your case you probably want to slow down. Or at least play the kiss off as she's the one rushing and trying to seduce you
/r/seduction12/02/19 01:32 PM
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The best way to hit on or talk to girls IMO, is to say what’s on your mind with no filter. This is the only thing i DO NOT recommend,at least, not when youre starting. Sure it will work through trial and error. much like smashing a shovel into random spots in the ground will get you gold eventually. A boring opener is the perfect thing to acclimate a person to approaching. Give them something simple that they are knowledgeable about and instead learn to make that interesting, Meanwhile,they can …
/r/seduction09/02/19 01:18 AM
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Some places have seduction meet-up groups.TBH the only one i knew of was in NY but i've heard of others. you could go out on your own and make some friends through a hobby. You could try the wallflower way.look at people in club and see who's trying to hit on women. both of you have the same goal so meeting up this way will mean knowing theyre on the same page. To be honest, this may be one of the worst ways only because, if its obvious theyre flirting with women, theyre most likely bad at it.Th…
/r/seduction09/02/19 12:35 AM
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The good smaller party cheaper usually the bar will still be open if it gets boring she is social proof, making it easier to talk with other women can most likely fuck her again at the party The bad Talking with other women while there will most likely make her jealous the "fake boyfriend" may be her "claiming" you.aka "catching feelings" for you. her driving means you are stuck there till she leaves. Overall, i say go. I'd consider taking your car or at least plan on taking uber.Try to kill tha…
/r/seduction09/02/19 12:11 AM
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She was probably offended. You could treat it like a shit test. You could've turned into joke or actually started conversation. Empathy is nice, it's what you do to build comfort. It is NOT sexy and if anything will be a turn off.
/r/seduction01/02/19 06:40 PM
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I want to add 2 things. Getting in the venue. If there's a line, talk with them. Just bullshit small talk. It's what I did when I started in order to get in. On the no friends shit test. you can say you are waiting on your friends. Later, when inside socialise and make some friends. Later, you can merge the 2 groups and introduce your 'friends". On top of this, if you help the right friends, you'll now have a group you can go out with and more likely meet people with a common goal. You can get a…
/r/seduction23/01/19 04:23 PM
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im assuming your nervous because of "rape".The news makes it sound much worse than it is. First off, you dont HAVE to have sex the same day and you dont HAVE to go straight home. You can actually attempt to talk it out or grab a bite and let her sober up a bit. A second safe option is to win her friends over. If her friends like you then she's less likely to use the "bad decisions" excuse. If she can't stand straight, then shes too drunk. If shes just "brave" then let her lead. let her "do the w…
/r/seduction20/01/19 05:57 PM
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you fucked up OP. read the body not her words.odds are she wanted to fuck and it was all she could think about.Conversation is a small part of a very big picture. Imagine this, someone wanted to sell you something you already wanted to buy. now, what they end up doing is there salesmen shtick. They talk and ask question in an attempt to sell the product.If you already want the product, youre not trying to hear that shit (shut up and take my money). She was already sold, and you were still trying…
/r/seduction20/01/19 05:30 PM
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if you think a girl is uninterested, why not have fun? next time you think youre in a dead conversation, start making things up. step back for a second and say "fuck it, time to entertain myself". it'll take you out of your head and make it that much easier to talk to the next person.
/r/seduction19/01/19 02:10 AM
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its really not that big a deal but -condom- flip inside out and throw away. and if youre that paranoid, put alcohol in the condom and stir it. and even more, throw it in garbage somewhere outside. fake identity-just lie about your name, strangers dont really care who you are. -credit card- in foreign countries, you shouldnt be waving your money around in the first place. do that and youll be the one getting fucked instead. -rape charges- option 1. you can not be a loser, make some friends so you…
/r/seduction16/01/19 12:48 AM
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what he saying pertains to "logical thinkers". people who wonder why money, iq and being nice doesnt get them a women. seduction isnt logical, its animalistic. You can make a logic path to get things to go your way but your "common sense" will most likley be wrong.
/r/seduction14/01/19 11:25 PM
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lol, that is one possibility but generally speaking, a person who has to pee wont stand still. a person with good posture is confident. a person with great posture is about to crap there pants.
/r/seduction13/01/19 11:41 PM
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this is mostly for buisness, there are slight differences with seduction. for example, asking questions. You dont want to do this too much, or you'll turn a conversation into an interview. share stories, and make implications. they also failed to mention the other person. for example, stance. now they talk about the stance of confidence but not comfort. typically, when a person is comfortable they will cross there legs like so https://imgur.com/hb0jbhZ heres a usefull link http://westsidetoastma…
/r/seduction13/01/19 04:12 AM
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people dont grow up, they just grow old. youre 28, you should know that 😏
/r/seduction09/01/19 12:16 AM
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i did hvac sales, yes. I had it easier since the product usually pushed itself. one issue. dont be the "problem solver" in the conversation. If she talks about her ex, or her bad friend etc. dont try to solve it. my desire to fix problems didnt translate over well.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:47 PM
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sales and seduction have a lot in common. No one buys if you dont go out and sell [yourself] the pushy salesman are the ones everyone talks about. ie the creeps. pushy salesman do get sales but subtlety creates loyalty. when your good at selling , you wont have to push the product,people will push you to sell it to them. women will get really touchy with you when theyre sold on "your product"
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:38 PM
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........that is the process. almost down to the T. you introduce yourself.(direct or indirect) you qualify her, making sure she satisfys your standards. you present yourself, making you interesting and satisfying her standards. you negotiate on whether they want to keep it going (dating, kissing, fucking). then close out, (kiss her, fuck her, date her) dating is the equivalency of a follow up, if your pitch was interesting and memorable, they cant wait.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:28 PM
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you can take this as an invitation for an FWB or a dirty way of saying lets break up. either way, you should be now pursuing other women. be wary, she may just like attention.when you get another girl, if she starts getting jealous and asking for exclusivity(the fwb), drop her completely.
/r/seduction07/01/19 07:17 PM
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this is the real reason PUA's practice routines. If you dont care if you get her, then you dont care what you say.When crunch time comes around the 2 things that happen are, you either go beta and say what you think she wants to hear or you blank out. Theres also one more that happens only to PUA's, they try "there best material" and use stuff theyve never tried before and completely blow themselves out the water. when you practice a routine it gives your brain groundwork to fall back to the wor…
/r/seduction04/01/19 06:29 PM
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theres a phsycology trick that might work.usually applies to the dead but it may be worth a shot. write a letter saying everything you want to say, let out all your thoughts. feelings, emotions. then write a letter as her response.something of an apology letter. write in a way as if she had passed and this is just a final farewell . after that, fold it up, put it in an envelop and burn it. i know its weird, especially writing her response but if you can't meet her it may help add some closure
/r/seduction04/01/19 06:17 PM
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it's not wealth explicitly but excitement. How intresting you are with your wealth. A shitty watch with a good story is going to beat out $500 watch.....but not a $5000 watch because now that watch also has a story.
/r/seduction02/01/19 08:34 PM
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now this i'd like to know more about
/r/seduction01/01/19 06:50 PM
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It's just a name for something a majority of people do. men and women alike. OP's version is just an exaggerated example.It's with skill that you learn to pass these tests. for some it comes naturally, others, not so much. theres a point in your life where you have to think what 2+2 is. once youve passed that, you can figure it without even thinking of it.If you were asked " whats 2+2" you wouldnt consider it a real test because of years of having it engrained in your head. The point of this who…
/r/seduction11/12/18 01:45 AM
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congratulations, you literally told him to forget shit tests then told him what everyone says to do in a shit test. .https://web.archive.org/web/20111018201257/http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/iq6nx/common_shit_tests_and_how_to_defuse_them
/r/seduction11/12/18 01:27 AM
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sounds similar to the old mystery and style methods. you start off with routines, then as you become accustomed to the flow, you personalize it to fit yourself.
/r/seduction27/11/18 01:58 AM
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Vague answers aren't too bad. It gives you time to practice your wit. If she says she likes reading, you could say " oh yeah, everyone reads playboy for the articles". If she says she likes to dance" i would do ballet too but, the tootoo didn't match my eyes'. Basically you imply the specifics, it doesn't have to be right or even that funny. You imply to get her to either correct you or play into your narrative.
/r/seduction19/11/18 07:31 PM
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That's called a stalker. Please don't. Walking up and talking- perfectly normal. Following from place to place like a lost puppy -that's a negative.
/r/seduction09/11/18 07:18 PM
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Might as well try " Rules of the Game, by Neil Strauss. It's a 30 day challenge. I usually only reccomend it for basic confidence building but it's designed to help you get a date in 30 days. Going out there and grinding every day means nothing if you don't learn from it. Try and figure out when do you lose them. Maybe you're closing too quick, maybe you aren't making her comfortable. Maybe you look like shit or your breath stinks. Beating a steel wall with a rubber mallet will get you nowhere. …
/r/seduction08/11/18 07:47 PM
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Its not but it's definitely useful. It's pretty much social training wheels.
/r/seduction08/11/18 04:05 PM
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Look up the " mystery method". You want to open indirectly. You can make freinds at the club, then use those freinds as social proof. Group gaming is a valuable tool in situations like these
/r/seduction08/11/18 02:30 PM
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The sidebar could use an upgrade.
/r/seduction07/11/18 02:45 PM
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Mystery used to use magic. Its mostly an opener. You're making an excuse to converse
/r/seduction06/11/18 05:41 PM
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One tweek to add to college game for you. Dress like you just came from the gym. Peakocking in general is useful. Colleges are heavy niche areas, frats, clubs, classes.
/r/seduction06/11/18 05:39 PM
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you know whats worse than being broke? being broke and lonely. men AND women feel this. you can actually use it as a part of your conversations. since its cheaper to home cook than order out, you can even use it to get her home with you. Im hoping some of these acquaintances are at least mildly attractive.play flirting keeps you warmed up, the only difference is making the effort to close.
/r/seduction06/11/18 03:17 AM
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sticking point. you can probably merge women with your hobbies. you can make small talk between classes, at lunch, and/or at work. i dont know how much time you spend on reddit but you can probably alternate it between interacting with people and reddit time. just socialize. talk with people anywhere and everywhere, at least keep that social engine warm so when you happen to catch the time, it doesnt feel like a clusterfuck.
/r/seduction06/11/18 02:37 AM
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yes and no. tinder appeals to the girl who either is seeking attention or window shopping.You'll get closes on tinder but it wont compare to a face to face. a cold approach works on any women, whether she's seeking or not. reading a couple texts will not have the same effect as saying a couple words.tinder leans heavier on the shallow judgement; your whole personality summed down to a picture and a few sentences. in real life, you have the chance to fight your case. she may have already judged y…
/r/seduction06/11/18 02:31 AM
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theres a video where Styles taught me something important. He talks about people who can't get a women and then learning how to fuck. people learning the end game before they even now how to start. He breaks it down real simple; to sum it up, rejection is more than expected, its an obligation. you practice each step, until you can do it reliably. that means opening and being stuck with nothing to say. that means practicing things to say but not being able to close, that means being able to close…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/18 04:21 PM
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I am curious as to what you do. I've seen the WHY change but the What typically doesn't. What people say and what people mean vary greatly. You can meet foreign women who don't understand a word your saying ( and vice versa) by body language and tone. Maybe you do it and don't even realize it?
/r/seduction18/10/18 06:55 PM
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I only consider physicality IOI's . not exactly touching but body language. Whether its an IOI is heavily dependent on tone. You can call questions an IOI but that's if you can reasonably elaborate on it. " are you this happy all the time" is not one of those questions.
/r/seduction18/10/18 03:54 PM
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It's like a rape victim saying " its nice to know I'm that irresistible" or getting put in the hospital after a beatdown and saying" i should thank those guys for giving me a couple days off from work" Don't get me wrong you can joke about it and put some positivity but the purpose of that IS denial. Instead of having to brunt your feelings you joke it off. That's good in moderation but if you joke off or "spin" all your feelings, you'll screw up your head, badly
/r/seduction18/10/18 03:47 PM
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Those sound like shit tests. If i had to guess, you aren't just being positive but being too agreeable. High energy and positivity are great for introductions.
/r/seduction18/10/18 12:15 PM
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Yeah, this went from positivity to denial real quick.
/r/seduction18/10/18 12:09 PM
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It is harder but whatever you did on the 3, you should try with the 7-8-9. Confidence is key You have the advantage if you stick to your race. The game changes slightly between cultures but the fundamentals don't.
/r/seduction17/10/18 02:24 PM
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Go to a club, you'll see that most people can't
/r/seduction17/10/18 02:06 PM
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This was a good read, hopefully you F closed. Being this upfront works when a person is drunk but the next morning, they'll feel vulnerable, like they went too fast and they'll be reluctant to answer if you call them. It doesn't sound like you built much comfort. Odds are if you didn't have sex then, your chance with her is gone.
/r/seduction17/10/18 01:58 PM
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First off, what's telegram? I can vouch for this. Writing down your success, failures and how you can improve helps you maintain focus. This isn't exclusive to seduction. You can use this same thought process with any goal.
/r/seduction17/10/18 01:02 PM
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Tease her a bit. Make implications that are wrong. Get her to talk by correcting you. Give her the impression that she's winning you over, not you winning her.
/r/seduction17/10/18 12:42 PM
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Not everyone wants to fuck themselves. It's more important to be interesting and dress well. Just remember this, it's their job to reject you, not yours. Don't reject yourself for them. Train for yourself.
/r/seduction17/10/18 12:37 PM
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You can improve these slightly by being implicative. Instead of asking where are you from, youd say she where she looks or sounds like she's from ( i reccomend not explaining yourself right away only because of shit tests). Implications add character and can especially help you if you guess right. Edit: Also. If she's with a group it's extraordinarily useful to ask " how do you guys all know eachother?"
/r/seduction16/10/18 07:25 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/What-Every-Body-Saying-Speed-Reading/dp/0061438294 this is what youre looking for. this will help you but its not 100% foolproof. 2 things to consider. nature vs nurture. One early sign of attraction is the dialation of the pupils. it can also be a sign of fear or nervousness. same for the blushing of a face.all of this can instantly be broken by opening your mouth. or waving your hand or going for a hug, or glancing away. There are a few subtle nuances that are fairly uni…
/r/seduction06/10/18 02:00 AM
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If it's your last year, approach. You might not see these people again. Normally I'd say go indirect, trying to get them comfortable with you as you see them day to day ,but if it's the last year, just go direct.
/r/seduction02/10/18 05:36 PM
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the game is a story rules of the game is a self help book
/r/seduction28/09/18 02:02 AM
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post some videos on youtube and then post them here. let yourself be judged. you cant always find your weaknesses by looking within.
/r/seduction18/09/18 09:30 PM
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Keep notes, similiar to what youre doing with this post. 3 points that worked 3 points to improve and how. for groups, generally indirect is the way people go. you're throwing out a question that gets everybody talking. You can also go direct with a "hey, you mind if i hit on your friend" kind of thing. even if youre going direct, having something they can all talk about is a valuable skill. with groups, you win the friends to win the girl. i reccomend practicing small talk with some women in ge…
/r/seduction17/09/18 12:08 AM
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Those tricks and routines are the fundamentals. Even the best bike riders used training wheels. Sure, some people never take them off but those routines are what can pull a dead meeting back. Understanding there fundamental purpose is the only way it works. Some of it is stuff we do every day but never actually thought about. I'll give an example, An opinion opener- the goal is to open without giving the impression of flirting. They'll tell you a basic routine like "5 oceans" but that's so you c…
/r/seduction07/09/18 04:12 PM
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He was for a time. Most pua's reach a depressed state when they trully except it's all a game.
/r/seduction07/09/18 03:37 PM
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As long as you are at a job, you will have to interact with people seduction at it's heart is about making yourself likeable to yourself and others. Age doesn't diminish the joy of meeting new people. Its how you find new things in life.
/r/seduction07/09/18 03:36 PM
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I'm not in dubai but if you guys are that scared, i reccomend practicing indirect approaching and group gaming. Being " the weird westener" is safer than" western fuck hitting on my women" Indirect game allows you to talk with the men and women while they're together and then pull her away later.
/r/seduction31/08/18 07:44 PM
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You can but that's after you've developed your skill. If you establish your personality early , you can get an fwb thing going on.
/r/seduction31/08/18 07:35 PM
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I would just start adding bounces instead of closes. Invite her to a location. It can be today, tomorrow or next week. When you invite, dont ask, tell. Not " hey., wanna see a movie sometime" say. Hey, lets go see ( specific movie). If you're not trying for an instant date;" but not today, im kinda busy. lets go ( specific day).
/r/seduction31/08/18 07:32 PM
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I think this is the most important detail to know. Each character will attract a certain kind of person. Playing OP's style is best because it's fairly simple to dial back. Its easier to start as a joke and up seriousness than to start serious and downplay into a jokester.
/r/seduction30/08/18 03:50 PM
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1 thing. I generally don't recommend those " social singles" meetups. It's more or less the same as nightgame. High m2f ratio, usually, imo, unattractive women and lots of orbiters fighting over artificial scarcity. Stick to hikes and hobby like meetups.
/r/seduction19/08/18 06:15 PM
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If they cant talk, make implications. Assume random things and let them correct you. Hows your Kino?
/r/TheRedPill13/08/18 06:19 PM
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give this a read over. you might be better off starting from the beginning. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ero8h/new_to_seddit_a_concise_guide_for_recovering_afcs/
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:51 AM
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female friends? if you have female friends, it at least shows you can talk to women. at that point its more about being flirtatious so you dont keep ending up in the friend zone.
/r/seduction06/08/18 12:41 AM
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move on. she couldve been just wanting attention but more likely you didnt build up enough comfort. The kiss may have been too much too early for her
/r/seduction05/08/18 11:47 PM
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1st physique 2nd voice. look into either a vocal coach or just language classes. 3rd confidence this is just the first 2 combined. walk upright instead of slouched. speak with depth and clarity. approach people,flirt AND make friends. The common issue with "minorites" is that they feel like they dont belong and they act accordingly.
/r/seduction05/08/18 11:33 PM
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you can try but you'll have to kind of play it long. more or less, you are in the freindzone and you need to get out of it. the bar is good, if she feels nervous about it, defuse it. go as freinds and then whatever happens at the bar, happens
/r/seduction05/08/18 10:30 PM
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This would not work. You do have to be more direct with guys than girls but going that direct would be suspicious. That's taking instant date too literal. Stating your intentions is right but a little small talk is necessary. Another useful detail is a " statement of empathy". Acknowledging that a stranger walking up to them and calling them cute is weird will break any initial tension. The small talk builds comfort. With a women this might be a longer conversation. With a man, you can ask basic…
/r/seduction27/07/18 02:41 PM
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The issue OP is talking about is mental masturbation. When you read what to do but make no efforts to take action. You are actually taking action and applying theory.
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:35 PM
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The only truely valuable advice is the basics. As things get more situational, subtle and nuanced, the advice becomes too subjective. Like the differences between day and night game.
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:32 PM
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That requires you to have things you think are cool and not just old habits you can't get yourself to quit.
/r/seduction21/07/18 05:30 PM
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Men are too. I might like a personality but i can't see her personality jiggling from across the street.
/r/seduction18/07/18 04:40 PM
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For a true beginner. Get this book. https://www.amazon.com/Rules-Game-Neil-Strauss/dp/0061911690 It works on your confidence and self image. Its supposed to take 30 days but if your anxiety is bad, you may need to repeat earlier days until you're comfortable.
/r/seduction18/07/18 03:51 PM
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For the most part. I agree. This is seduction not r/socialskills. They're better suited for friendship vs relationship.
/r/seduction18/07/18 03:46 PM
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Talk about your girlfriend. That simple. And don't Kino, obviously
/r/seduction18/07/18 03:42 PM
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If you can, make something like an inside joke. Something so that when you text her, she would know it's you without ever knowing your name or number.
/r/seduction18/07/18 03:25 PM
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On 1. You can change the " pretty" part but i wouldn't skip it. Giving a reason for why you are talking is comforting. You can also use that time constraint to your advantage. Telling them you're short on time is also comforting because it stops them from feeling trapped talking to you. I say keep the pretty part so they know your intentions. It's direct but when you're short on time, its the best option. Unless you are sure you're going to see them again, always close as well. Something like " …
/r/seduction17/07/18 02:01 PM
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Message her but realistically, i wouldn't expect anything. If you only talked with her once before and have made zero contact in 3 weeks, she's probably forgotten about you. If you did nothing memorable she's probably forgotten how she feels about you as well. You should still ask her anyway, the worst case scenario is she says no and that's that. A solid answer is better than thinking about what ifs.
/r/seduction16/07/18 03:55 PM
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Always approach, even if you know you don't have time to close. First off, let me tell you that you're going to get rejected. Second, people hear strangers talking all the time, they're quick to forget and quicker to lose intrest. Think about all the times you heard someone talking on the bus. How often did you actually listen or even care what others were saying. You should have a general plan of what to say but practice is good either way. Women in the street ( Daygame) are slightly different …
/r/seduction16/07/18 03:05 PM
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It's funny you call it the x-theory. I called it the Why theory. If you don't know what your doing it. It's hard to make a habit out of it. I think it's important to write what happens if you stop as well It reaffirms why you're doing it. Example. Habit- Going to the gym to be fit. Why- It will help with my confidence and self esteem. It will help me get women, it will help me live longer, ill become stronger and have more energy. It keeps me from staying home and masturbating all day. What happ…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/18 04:46 PM
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Could be the opposite, OP may be friends with one of those girls who always act flirty. Kino and playfully turning it on her is the best bet.
/r/seduction12/07/18 09:19 PM
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I'm not sure if it'll work but try this. Use one of those speech to text apps and just talk. I'm guessing when you text you overthink your words. Stand up, imagine them standing in front of you, now talk to the phone as if it was them. Make sure it put out what you said, then send. Lmk how it goes if you do this. I don't want to give bad advice.
/r/seduction12/07/18 07:15 PM
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He doesn't need to lie to them. If anything he needs to be more blunt. If he can tell her how it is before he has sex with her, all he'll have to do is be consistent. He's got game already , he's just not sending the message he wants. Lying is for when you want to keep her but don't feel like being around her, or if you're in the early game stages and want to artificialize an interesting/busy life.
/r/seduction12/07/18 07:06 PM
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I also follow the " don't eat where you shit" policy. If it's related to what you're doing at school, again, i say follow the don't eat where you shit policy. You do have a second job so if you lose one, you can fall back to another. Resigning and getting fired are not the same thing. If you just put in the 2 weeks you can still throw it in your resume and move on to the next one
/r/seduction12/07/18 06:35 PM
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Those are just warm up rounds. Your brain needs to get ready for conversation.
/r/seduction12/07/18 06:12 PM
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You drop it casually as a part of a story. Here's the thing, if she mentions it, she wants to know more about it. Try hard is when you A. Explicitly mention it. B. Force the conversation to be about it. C. Offer to write/play her a song. Try hard is when you force feed a topic. You can have a conversation about it and you can play her a song but i wouldn't recommend it for someone you just met unless they clearly have a passion for it as well. Music is valuable in that it connects emotionally an…
/r/seduction12/07/18 12:38 PM
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Dress clean...... That about sums it up. What works on most will work on her. She's still human.
/r/seduction12/07/18 12:22 PM
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practice. its about noticing details and making assumptions. You don't have to be right. you just have to be willing to speak, or in tinders case, text. With tinder you can even throw blatant bullshit into the air. You can randomly say " By the way your kneeling in -X- picture i'd definitely say youre a dog person." "Am i right?" i don't even know what the hell that means, odds are she doesn't either but i've thrown in something to talk about. You guess wrong, learn something new, then try again…
/r/seduction11/07/18 10:01 PM
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What do you mean they look good? That's a question to ask yourself. Follow it up with something it reminds you of. It won't get her panties wet but talking about nothing does fill the void. Also, try and make assumptions about the person. For example She's wearing a baggie hoodie and jogging pants. I can say something along the lines of " you've got a real casual look going on with that hoodie and jogs, it reminds me of a college senior who can't wait for the year to end." I also implied she goe…
/r/seduction11/07/18 07:35 PM
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I think marriage is tied to abundance. Back in " Ye Olden Times". Population was lower and your chance of death was much higher. The loyalty of marriage came from a feeling of safety. Husband keeps wife alive, wife bears children and keeps husband happy. In today's marriages there is no " need" no worry of survival and practically no added benefit relationwise. People have sex with multiple people before marriage, most don't want children and then some will attempt to marry to " save" the child …
/r/seduction09/07/18 07:11 PM
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You would have to defy yourself and do it. You have to learn what it means and then act the part. Those are active personality traits. Those are things you do in the moment. You can still talk about your hobbies but the stories would have to maintain that same vibe. It's still emotional, just different emotions. An energetic person has a loud ,clear voice. A goofy person is willing to do embarrassing things for there OWN pleasure. A bubbly personality is a person who tries to be fun and positive…
/r/seduction09/07/18 07:01 PM
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You know exactly what one has to do with the other. You just finished stating it in your post. The man getting the women is the man who doesn't care.
/r/seduction09/07/18 05:15 PM
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Always try, especially if you don't think you'll see them again. Let's put it like this: Option 1- You don't ask her out. What happens- Nothing, life continues as if you never even spoke to her. Option 2- You ask her out. What happens- (A) She says no or i have a boyfriend or maybe she even laughs. Then life continues on just like Option 1. Or (B) She says yes. Turns out you have alot in common and you guys fall head over heels for Each other OR shes a "freak" and you have the most mindblowing s…
/r/seduction09/07/18 04:58 PM
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Do you watch football as well? The " playing" football is your hobby ( if anyone asks). You can talk about football but when you talk to women you need to talk with emotion. How do you feel when you win or lose, who were your favorite people to play with. How did you feel when playing with them. If you have a memory of a great game, talk about it. That is all just 1 part of your personality.
/r/seduction09/07/18 04:26 PM
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You go to a bar, pub or club where people dance. Dancing is speaking with your body. If you don't know how to dance, go anyway. For language. Duolingo and memrise
/r/seduction09/07/18 04:16 PM
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In your home country, what did you do to keep yourself busy?
/r/seduction09/07/18 04:08 PM
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I'm not saying this is impossible but in all honesty, this all sounds like bullshit to me. It gives off this " beta fantasy" vibe. I would think these women thought you were gay or firmly in the freindzone. Im willing to say i have biases i need to break but i swear this is how every " nice guy" story goes but then they complain that they didn't get the girl.
/r/seduction09/07/18 03:43 PM
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Canned material is just the cross point where a good memory meets a good storyteller. If you lack in either you use someone else's until you do
/r/seduction09/07/18 03:28 PM
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I'd say drop it. If you want to continue the chase you can either ask to go over to her place where she's more comfortable( it's important to emphasize the comfort part), invite her to a movie, where you can be " alone together" and no obligation to talk. Or find what she likes to typically do and do it together ( that might mean going to the park and just reading seperate books next to each other.
/r/seduction09/07/18 03:09 PM
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No, but certain principles can also be applied to flirting. All the time you hear about people using the " yes chain". Using all these principles as steadfast rules will make you look like a pushover.
/r/seduction09/07/18 11:51 AM
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This is going to sound weird but you should try picking up a wing. You may be the only one who knows about "gaming" but you're sure as hell not the only one playing. Make some friends and have fun, you might have a good wing for next time.
/r/seduction29/06/18 03:31 AM
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The old way people used to practice was talking in the mirror. You set a timer for about 2-4 minutes and just talk. Imagine you are talking to someone but dont talk as 2 people.
/r/seduction25/06/18 07:39 PM
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remember it. Everyone here is telling you to forget, i say don't.You want to know why? Because you didn't let yourself get rejected. If you didn't actually approach her, remember how you feel. Remember that feeling of letting an opportunity pass you by. The next time you see someone you might like, think back to her, think back to what waiting did to you.Maybe you wouldve got rejected but at least then, youd know for a fact. I recently heard that a earworm ( a song stuck in your head) happens wh…
/r/seduction20/06/18 10:57 PM
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Look up " the mystery method". The real trick is to use canned material to start. You keep a journal of your interactions and build your own material till you finally "naturalize" Here's something in the meantime http://www.theattractionforums.com/showthread.php?t=58557
/r/seduction19/06/18 07:43 PM
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It preys on weakness. You're paying for 2 things Low supply, high demand. Many men are looking for this and the teacher to student ratio is large. It takes advantage of men who have to admit vulnerability. It takes alot for a man to admit they need help. Im not saying its a scam, im sure those bootcamps have helped a few men who needed that extra push, but im sure there are many men who go there, practice and then give up when they leave. A good chunk of pickup is learning to get over yourself.
/r/seduction19/06/18 07:23 PM
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When i'm talking to one where i couldn't care less about the outcome, i come off a lot more confident then when i'm trying hard for a good outcome, who knew? This is why you need to keep doing it. This should be your normal state. We all have a bad habit of getting " creative" when it matters most to us. You should only be creative when the outcome doesn't matter ( ie random bus girl). Then use what worked in the future. Just make sure you understand WHY it worked more than WHAT worked.
/r/seduction19/06/18 06:25 PM
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Try to say what you're thinking. This won't always get you the girl but it will allow you to break the mental block. For example you compliment her then you draw a blank " you know what's funny, i came up here to talk to you and now i have no idea what to say" again, it won't get you the girl but it'll break the tension a bit. They may just ask about you and then you can get the ball rolling again. The trick to conversation is being observant. You make observations about the situation , Conversa…
/r/seduction19/06/18 06:13 PM
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Don't overthink the approach. Being aware of how weird it is and stating it should usually break the tension. Optimistically, you want to come up slightly in front of her like a thought just crossed your mind. You can stay slightly ahead of her and talk so it's almost like she's following you.
/r/seduction19/06/18 05:37 PM
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I've never really had that oneitis feeling so take this with a grain of salt. Make yourself the Oneitis. I know it sounds weird but think about it like this. That oneitis comes from a feeling of " incompletion". Im assuming when your with them, they feel like your other half you feel theres things you can say to them that you cant say to anyone else. If you think about that, what you're really saying is, " I don't like myself and i lie to my freinds to maintain this false persona. I need women i…
/r/seduction15/06/18 02:44 PM
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There were 3 things i worked on before i started gaming. My voice. I went to a park and practiced talking loud and clear. This would be easier if you have freinds and just ask them to tell you how loud and clear it sounds. Most people talk low( i did) or talk fast. Talk with anyone. If you cant start a car, it doesnt matter where you were going, much the same, if you can't start a conversation, it doesn't matter where you want to lead it. I would look in the news and choose 3 topics. Then when i…
/r/seduction15/06/18 02:08 PM
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There are women you should approach.... some woman I come across has such an anxious face that it's almost intimidating and I loose my frame/mindset. And those are women you MUST approach. It looks like you have a clear grasp on what your strength and weaknesses are. The only part i don't understand is the saying you failed. You did approach 2 women, thats the challenge, unless you meant the days you didnt approach?
/r/seduction15/06/18 01:16 PM
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Rules of the game. Same author as OP but it has fairly good game plan that will get you off the ground. It breaks down working on yourself and working outward. If Seduction was a sport, this book would be the fundamentals.
/r/seduction13/06/18 07:29 PM
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Direct is fast sorting, indirect is about quality catching. Really, its a small part of the conversation. Indirect is superior because it plays to what most prefer, things just " happening". " he was just looking for directions and we just " happen" to hit it off, " we went to his house to eat and " one thing lead to another".
/r/seduction13/06/18 04:05 PM
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lol yes, she may make fucking the freinds difficult
/r/TheRedPill12/06/18 09:36 PM
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Crazy girls don't always have crazy freinds but sometimes 1 bad apple can spoil the bunch
/r/TheRedPill12/06/18 07:43 PM
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Lol. Now imagine the difference when she goes to slag you off to her friends and when they ask what you said/did after she said all that, and she goes "nothing, he just walked off, didn't even bother looking back". They'd all have wet panties thinking about you. That's not how it works. If it angers her that much she will make up a story or say she broke up with you. She will find a way to justify her feelings. Whether bridges are burned depends on how soon she either gets another man or gets ov…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/18 11:34 AM
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You don't work there, you dont have to be subtle. If anything, have fun with it
/r/seduction07/06/18 06:13 PM
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Ime, frustrated people are usually the ones who want to talk the most. The questions are 1, do you want to deal with that shit (85% of the time, its a no) and 2 can you listen calmly. If OP wanted, he could've given her a chance to vent a bit, instead he hit on her when her shield was up. she most likely would've been a little more receptive to conversation after blowing off a little steam. Im not saying OP should, I'd only reccomend doing it to entertain your curiosity, what im saying is he cou…
/r/seduction07/06/18 06:09 PM
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I took it as 2 reasons. 1 most older women you can consider pre-internet and pre cell phone. Physical conversation is what they grew up on and are thoroughly experienced at. The other is, age allows you to pick up on knowledge ( the value is questionable). One person could've been a homebody, she spent most of her life cooking and cleaning and watching tv, her parents had a full life, her brothers and sisters may have full grown children. The simple act of existing has given her time to rack up …
/r/seduction05/06/18 06:06 PM
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I initially practiced conversation with older women, generally speaking, they can hold a conversation on there own. They are willing to talk almost endlessly. I kept finding myself being a bit of a Tampon. Still, It was a step forward from anxious silence.
/r/seduction05/06/18 05:58 PM
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You kinda butchered that first sentence but i think i understand. When you swing the bat at the batting cages, is that fake baseball? When you go to dance classes, is that fake dancing? When an actor rehearses a part, is that fake acting? It just takes some moxie which actually is considered fake confidence. This is practice;A rehearsal of the person you actually want to be. Once you've learned the character, you can become it.
/r/seduction05/06/18 11:39 AM
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You can used "canned openers" which are simply, little questions or phrases that are good at getting conversation going. (reccomended for beginners who go blank in conversations) You can take a minute to observe your surroundings and then make some statements and implications just to get conversation going ( a fundemental skill, but not an easy one) you can practice "endless conversation" and simply belt off what comes to your head and respond when they do ( another fundemental but its uses are …
/r/seduction03/06/18 03:27 AM
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Daygame has a low rate of success in comparison to night game. This is why many choose the direct method for day gaming, you get rejected more often but you also sort quicker. In day gaming, your goal isn't to find if they wanted to see you or not, your goal is to talk with them so they are glad that you did. At a club or bar, a girl may feel embarrassed going home alone. That's rarely the case when she comes from grocery shopping or getting a coffee. Daygame is the equivalent of bursting in on …
/r/seduction30/05/18 11:49 AM
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Look up on YouTube pua infield. It should help get a general idea, more need to show what NOT to do but then again, you don't want to get stuck in your head
/r/seduction29/05/18 04:43 PM
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Places where girls want to be met; If she sees herself as ugly, anytime. If she sees herself as average or above , tinder and dating sites. If you mean in public, never. People dont want to be met as much as they want to be generally happy. If you just happen to start a conversation with them and they happen to enjoy it, they will be glad you met. The location doesn't matter the substance does. Instead of talking with the goal of seducing women, try to talk as if you're trying to fill up some ti…
/r/seduction29/05/18 04:30 PM
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Would you fight a child with an IQ test? Don't challenge them, they are acting" childish" and you need to treat them accordingly. When a child is acting needy, the parent will ignore the child. When you are talking with the girls, you would ignore him like the adults are talking. When a child is insulting you, you don't really insult them back, you just take everything that say as a joke. They call you fat, you don't say" fuck you, you fucking little shit" you laugh and tell them your Santa Clau…
/r/seduction29/05/18 03:53 PM
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Really its the male form of a shit test. Shit tests have no sex, same rules apply if a female was doing it.
/r/seduction29/05/18 03:37 PM
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You should avoid snap. I mean YOU should avoid snap. The reason I like Snapchat is because you can always see whether or not the girl has read your snap or not, so it's pretty easy to tell if she's ignoring you. This is the kind of thing that will absolutely destroy you. This neediness is what kills many peoples confidence. They see they got ignored, they start racking there brain about it and now they cant concentrate on the next one.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:55 PM
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If there's not something like this in the sidebar, there should be.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:48 PM
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If you didn't make one already, an inside joke helps. It help them think back to when they saw you last. Making the memorable remark may be challenging.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:44 PM
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Start off by being a " regular". Everyone at a gym has the same underlying goal. Say Hi to pretty much everyone. Try to start up some small talk, learn names. You talk gym with them, then you can transition to hanging out. If other people in the gym seem comfortable with your presence, new people who come in will feel welcome of your approach.
/r/seduction23/05/18 04:34 PM
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Clubs are a bit of a culture shock when you first go in. There's no promise you'll even like the music. If theres a line talk with the people in it. People don't know you are alone unless you make it obvious( which you will see). Take this first time as a time to enjoy the club more than the people. Imagine a bomb goes off in a building, are you going to hit on the girl running down the flight of stairs or are you going to fucking run. If the environment feels like a bomb going off in your head.…
/r/seduction23/05/18 03:50 PM
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As to why you would want to redpill other people. It sometimes hurts to see people who act the way you used to be. I know some of us here wish we heard about this year's ago but whether or not we were prepared is another story. TRP is a community because of it.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 01:09 PM
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I've always wondered if it's the fact that they are intelligent or that they lack social intelligence. Socializing is a skill, like any other skill, if you don't use it, you lose it. A lifetime hitting the books and solving problems can force you to disconnect. Is there any way to test social intelligence?
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 01:03 PM
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Gotta be honest, men have this issue too. Its just the other end. If a man wants to be emotional he's called a bitch. Some men will use there women as an excuse to watch certain or do certain things. There are more than a few guys who will get a mani-pedi but few who will admit it and fewer who go with friends. On the emotional end, we have romance movies. Some men will use it to there advantage when talking with women but you wont here too much of " movies that made me cry" from other men.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 12:47 PM
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Can't remember where i heard it but i always liked this saying. "Money isnt everything, not having it is" You don't need to be rich to be happy but you can near promise youll be miserable when your completely broke
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 03:46 PM
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The amateur practices till he gets it right. The pro practices till he can't get it wrong.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 03:40 PM
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Tested and confirmed... it works if you just want to tease her on a kiss. TBH not worth the effort of doing. sure you can tease her on the kiss but theres better ways to go about it. it is a bit fun doing it but, it's more for the sake of the game than it is for seduction.Not very beginner friendly. when you start playing around, youd be surprised the weird shit you can get away with.
/r/seduction20/05/18 08:31 AM
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you need to build attraction and comfort first. otherwise, you might as well be a stranger on a bus trying to sniff her pits. in OP's case, she also got nervous. this nervousness is what can help build sexual tension but first requires them to be comfortable with your presence in general. his cousin knows him, she's already comfortable with him, he already has rapport. you can think of this as a kino test point. if you have built up comfort, you can use this as a point to tell if you should star…
/r/seduction19/05/18 01:16 PM
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It's all about learning to read emotional ques. The thing is, humans are somewhat diverse. Lets go with negging. If a girl is confident and/or playful a neg is a nice soft tease if she's shy or lacks confidence, its just an insult. Then you have a list of possible psychological issues and you say the wrong word and it rubs them wrong. A girl who's had men falling to there knees around her all her life would be burnt out by that type. On the other hand, a girl who's been an ugly duckling or had a…
/r/seduction17/05/18 06:36 PM
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I get what your saying now. The thing with mental disorders is that there's no real medicine for them,most antidepressants treat the lack of motivation vs the actual depression. As far as this method goes, exposure therapy is one of the ways used to get over fears. In general most peoples fear is approach anxiety. They fear just going up to people they find attractive. If you fear approaching women then getting comfortable approaching people in general is a good start. Then you move on to small …
/r/seduction16/05/18 09:21 PM
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This is not necessarily true, not in seduction at least. Listening and doing exactly as they say is how you end up as a friend. You need to put some priority on yourself. Women are more connected with there emotions; that is what you want to listen too. Example a She says " i like going on hikes...." If that's all she says, she probably doesn't like going on hikes. Example b She says " i like going on hikes, seeing the open sky makes me feel like I'm floating" she probably likes hiking. Its not …
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:41 PM
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Leaving a wound to fester won't make it heal any quicker. You should always be making efforts to improve yourself. Having good people in your life will make self improvement easier, a relationship is just a small part that can improve your life. Everyone has problems, you just need to be on the side that's doing something about it.
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:28 PM
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Seduction is just sales of yourself
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:21 PM
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The problem with that is ; some things don't make sense without context. I say step one says * smile more*. That doesn't mean be some doofy dumbass with a shit eating grin on his face all day. The video will differentiate that. Much more importantly, there's no point in reading it unless you intend to actual use the information. Seduction is a hands on course. They say 6000 hours is what it takes to become a professional at something, i can promise you, you can spend 6000 hours reading seduction…
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:20 PM
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Everyone at school or work is a stranger until you say hi.although, this applies there as well, you can still say hi to people at work.
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:14 PM
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It's a step by step process. Some people even get anxious when typing. Some people are too anxious to talk to anyone. They can't say hi to friends because they have none and they avoid there coworkers. This is just step one in breaking general anxiety.
/r/seduction16/05/18 07:07 PM
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How do men meet women in your country?
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:42 PM
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How do men meet women if not by introduction?
/r/seduction16/05/18 03:40 PM
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you dont have to give them up, you have to be able to talk about it in an interesting way. more importantly, you have to be willing to hear and accept there interests as well. if you can be okay with someone who watches mtv reality shows, and prefers rap music then you may be okay, if you can't be okay with other peoples interests, dont expect them to be okay with yours. relationships, friend or otherwise, are about establishing some sort of common ground. the common ground can be simple. maybe …
/r/seduction15/05/18 03:25 AM
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It rarely happens to men. Most men will be caught very off gaurd by it. I actually remember a girl spending about 30 seconds making small talk and then said straight out she wants me to fuck her. I literally laughed out loud because how off gaurd it caught me, after that she ran out the pizzeria. That interaction made my day but I'm sure my laugh fucked up hers. I never thought i was attractive enough to be hit on. Generally you will follow the same principles. Get them comfortable with you and …
/r/seduction14/05/18 03:50 PM
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this was hilarious. it also covered more the phsycology of kino than the escalation itself. fundamentally, in game, kino is the art of testing waters.it tells you how comfortable someone is, either around you or with you.it still breaks down to the main 3 points attraction, comfort, and seduction.like a game, you can use the kino as an imperfect method to find what checkpoint youre at. lets say youve just met them and you throw them an energetic HEY! , smile and put your arns out for a hug. a sm…
/r/seduction14/05/18 12:03 AM
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this is exactly what i say. people are strange. if theres 3 options A B C and you tell a person "choose A" theyll probably choose something else. on the other hand you say "B doesnt sound that good and C doesnt sound too good either, what do you think we should do?" suddenly A sounds so appealing and they think it was there idea. you cant tell a person to fix themselves, you need to guide them to conclusion where they say "i need to fix myself"
/r/TheRedPill13/05/18 10:38 PM
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pua has always been sales, its been about convincing the customer to buy before youve even explicitly sold anything. one is selling a product, the other is selling yourself. its always broken down to fundamentally a direct or indirect approach. social circle game is nothing new. Mystery even knew, you dont just win the girl, you win her friends too. social circle game is just winning more friends so you have an easy DHV. tinder and dating apps are the only thing that require a new strategy since…
/r/seduction12/05/18 02:42 PM
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pro life-pro choice. in reality its just more politics. i didnt make the acronym
/r/seduction12/05/18 01:55 PM
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That's why i put easy and hard. Those are safe topics you can talk to with anyone. The other ones can stir up feelings and cause you trouble with certain people. You can talk about literal rape and death but talking about that may not be so safe. Delivery and a basic understanding of who your talking too are needed in the RAPE situations. Not many may want to talk about work but most people can.
/r/seduction11/05/18 06:28 PM
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Ford is right( easy) rape is wrong ( hard) Family Occupation Recreation Dreams Religion Abortion Politics Exes
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:36 PM
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What do you do? Most of the time, when a person opens up there own business they become a slave to there own business. Having to put in insane hours since you can only count on yourself.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/18 03:30 PM
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I don't know many people who've felt heartbroken after they stopped watching porn.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/18 03:18 PM
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The asking if he's gay is a shit test. Some men find that bothersome. This can throw a person off there flow or make them feel self conscious. Think of it like if a someone asked if you had mental issues or asked if you were homeless.
/r/seduction23/04/18 12:44 PM
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the term we commonly use is "hamstering". the reality of that is,like most people, her body wants one thing but her brain wants another. everyone is subject to it, think about when a person is depressed but doesnt do anything to change it. this case here is, she lost her boy and is in desperate need for attention. If OP gives her it, she'll be satisfied and move on to get attention from someone else. shes seeking validation and a party is the best place, she doesnt know this, shes simply reactin…
/r/seduction21/04/18 02:58 AM
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Exactly. This isn't a " I'm in your bed, fuck me" this is a " im going to give you a chance, convince me."
/r/seduction20/04/18 04:40 PM
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And strengths?
/r/seduction19/04/18 03:01 PM
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It's all in what you value. Do you only value pickup? If so, you'll forever be chasing the dragon. If you value friendships and relationships, you can easily use the skills you learned in pua to make friends and establish LTR. I don't get how a pua can be robbed of a social life, it's literally all your doing. You can stay friends with your married friends. As it always has been, you need to establish your own interests and hobbies and should have multiple social groups.
/r/seduction19/04/18 02:57 PM
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It's annoying when it's not wanted. When it is, it'll break the mundane of the day, which is welcoming.
/r/seduction19/04/18 02:45 PM
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Do you know what your strength and weaknesses are? If you're failing at the bar scene, it's usually because you are boring/ talking too much/ not paying attention
/r/seduction19/04/18 02:39 PM
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how do you pull this off man. You actually tell these women you have some guy behind recording your interaction and they're not creeped out by it? It's actually rarer to find a women that hates attention versus one who loves it. Im not saying it's genuine, I'm saying that a camera won't hold you back. If you play your cards right, it'll actually work to your advantage.
/r/seduction19/04/18 02:35 PM
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Yeah, tbh it's not that simple. This is the equivalent of " be yourself". Once you've naturalized your personality, you can become like OP but for some, either they have poor sense of taste, are bad at reading the room, have poor presence , poor conversation skills or worst of all they don't pay attention. At a bar, if a girls drunk enough, you can get away with quite a few of these. Thats why they call practice, calibration you natrually will change over time.
/r/seduction19/04/18 01:09 PM
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It proves something simple. Approach, Approach, Approach. Saying something stupid is better than saying nothing.
/r/seduction19/04/18 11:53 AM
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It's not about age, its about experience. Beyond that, everything else you said, i agree with. Here's the thing you have to realize. If someone is posting about when to and when not to approach, moreso, if they say they've never approached, it means they haven't learned to sort yet. They probably don't even know what they like yet. This is for OP the headless chicken faze.
/r/seduction19/04/18 11:41 AM
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I know many of you will advocate just to go for it and get used to rejection, but I'd rather not make an ass out of myself unnecessarily. everytime you walk away without at least trying, your already making an ass out of yourself.You're just rejecting yourself for them. you already know your weakness, work on your confidence, take your hits
/r/seduction19/04/18 03:23 AM
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i like max's social circle style for gym pickup. Talk with everyone at the gym, not just the ladies make friends with staff, say hi, learn there name. make friends with the regulars but say hi to whomever you cross. These 2 things will give you social proof. when a girl starts going to a gym and everyone says "HEY -you- HOWS IT GOING", it instantly makes you seem like a better person, making approaches easier.
/r/seduction18/04/18 10:42 PM
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If you are working on money. I've heard recommendations for millionaire mindset. Haven't read it myself but again, quite a few people have reccomended it.
/r/seduction18/04/18 03:27 PM
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Go window shopping at McDonald's
/r/seduction10/04/18 11:12 PM
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That sounds about right. He just needs warm up rounds. If the issue is he doesn't know what to say to hb8-9 tell him to step back, take a breath, and stick with what's worked before. Some people get overcreative when they feel someone is " out of there league" being interesting is important but if you have nothing, Better to go with what you know.
/r/seduction10/04/18 06:05 PM
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Tell him to start off honest. Hes going to get rejected but he needs to learn it himself. You can't be there all the time. He needs to learn to speak freely and pick up on details. If he has nothing to say tell him to say that. Im assuming he walked up to her because he found her attractive. What does he find attractive about her? Odds are upon saying these things she spoke as well. Based on how she looks or how she talks, he can probably imply something about her. Where she's from, the kind of …
/r/seduction10/04/18 05:55 PM
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you can read books like the "kamasutra" and " she comes first" but i wouldnt make that a focus for a virgin. Thats like saying you want to know how to do parkour before you know how to even stand. when you got the girl lined up, then you can focus on technique. just like the same seduction tricks wont work on every women neither will each sex style. some girls want to "make love", some want to "have sex" and some want to "fuck". these all mean essentially the same thing.planning sex techniques i…
/r/seduction01/04/18 04:25 AM
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Elaborate
/r/seduction29/03/18 09:41 PM
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it actually hasnt really changed.There's a reason people still refer to Dale carnegies books when socializing. since the beginning its always been like this. its always been: 1. be confident 2. be eyecatching 3. be interesting dont get it wrong. what you do in night game, will be different from day, as day will be from texting. The m3 method is still true but with each environment, you need to calibrate your abrasiveness. This has always been the case, much the same way negging a girl with no co…
/r/seduction28/03/18 01:45 AM
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Yeah, you're right. I should've emphasised that. When you stop being her friend, you don't go all " fuck you bitch , I don't need you". You just let her know , like you said, you're taking a break to work on yourself.
/r/seduction17/03/18 02:56 PM
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That is true but think about it, how often do people look for advice BEFORE they make a mistake. Often , people treat a relationship like a job. They come in, work hard so that" hopefully" they'll be recognized and be given a promotion. We both know it doesn't work like that, a hard worker stays where he is because he doesn't ask and they're happy with exactly where you are. You're a good worker just translates to you're a good friend.
/r/seduction17/03/18 02:44 PM
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The issue is really those who are already in the friendzone and trying to get out. That's why i say, there's only one way out the friendzone, and it's to stop being their friend.
/r/seduction17/03/18 01:42 AM
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/r/seduction17/03/18 01:39 AM
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The issue is that many who come here have a lay count of zero. Think if it was basketball. One guy is keeping track of how often he lands 3 pointers. A high average looks good, especially when you can't land a 3 for your life. But then you take a step back and see he lands 3's when he goes for them but rarely wins games. He goes for the 3 but only the sure thing and isn't willing to risk missing for the game. That's the same here. Lay counts are impressive if you don't have a count to speak of. …
/r/seduction16/03/18 03:14 PM
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Bring a wing and isolate her later.
/r/seduction12/03/18 09:46 PM
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Sounds a lot like Neil's strategy.
/r/seduction12/03/18 09:39 PM
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Think of the human animal. A man's goal is to make children. A woman's goal is to raise them. In nature raising a child leaves a women disadvantaged. Her instincts are designed to protect her investment. Are instincts is to grow the pack. Our logic has found loopholes via condoms, masturbating and birth control. The animal ( ie your emotions) are still there. You can choose your reaction by logic but not your emotions.
/r/seduction12/03/18 09:32 PM
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All these videos and books and pua reports and you don't even mention what they said.
/r/seduction12/03/18 09:20 PM
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This sounds like it wouldn't work. Sure, you might get the date but this generally translates to " hey want a free meal"?
/r/seduction12/03/18 09:16 PM
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just thought i should mention 2 things. 1.If you think youve found "the one" and youve never held a real conversation with her.shes not "the one". take the pussy off the pedestal,put your dick back in your pants and go talk to her. who people are and how they act in public are 2 different things. 2 . if youve been talking with them for awhile, they like you, but youve never made a move. odd are you are deep in the freindzone. go for it anyway but typically, the only way out the freindzone is to …
/r/seduction11/03/18 07:04 PM
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only confident people click, or at least, topically confident. you took the movies too personally and your lost in a delusion. Do spontaneous clicks happen? yes,same way anyone can be president or drop out of school and become a billionaire. unlikely (very, very unlikely) but possible. i dont know who told you you need to be an asshole, what you need to learn to do is actually go out there and get what you want."Closed mouths dont get fed" Read this book.Pirate it if you must and then buy it lat…
/r/seduction11/03/18 03:28 PM
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Does porn still work? This whole thread sounds like performance anxiety. You feel theres a certain quality and goal you must give. The thought of not meeting expectations of your partner is giving you anxiety. initially, maybe, it was just porn. "readapting to new stimulus" but then when you failed, you took it to heart and now despite the change in stimulus, you still can't perform. sounds about right?
/r/seduction11/03/18 03:09 PM
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why are you concerned with what "she" wants. You dont even know who "she" is. your goal is real simple, find what YOU want. If you fit into what "she" wants, then she'll stay. Dont think for other people.
/r/seduction11/03/18 03:01 PM
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It's a good toy but that's it. I would not recommend it. Multiple choice games are horrible for human interaction for the simple fact that " cut and paste" answers only work for a very small part of a conversation. The worst part is that most people only half pay attention to a game. For most, it's more about choosing the right answer than it is knowing why it's right or how to apply it Cut and paste is only useful as an intro. But then you need to hold an actual conversation.
/r/seduction07/03/18 05:51 PM
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This is what kino is about. You are escalating till she either pushes back or looks uncomfortable. Just learn when to escalate and when to step back and build comfort.
/r/seduction04/03/18 02:06 PM
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His model is just a simpler way to increase your overall close rate. It's the similar in effect to the direct method. You make your intentions clear off the bat. The direct method has a lower start rate but a higher close rate because you don't waste time. Actually this is the direct method. Your intentions are made immediately clear and they show weather they are receptive or not. This is a valid strategy but it definitely will give a creep vibe if executed incorrectly (ie you are ugly and misi…
/r/seduction04/03/18 03:24 AM
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if you feel yourself overstaying your welcome, close and bounce. practice "endless conversation" if you find yourself getting 1 word answers, 3 things may be happening. she's not an interesting person she's not very receptive to you (uninterested or shy) you are asking uninteresting questions you should attempt to close every set. Be direct about your desires. if youre short on time you might as well play direct otherwise all your doing is wasting time. you cant calibrate if you dont close. ny i…
/r/seduction02/03/18 05:15 AM
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this is an LTR issue, not a Tinder bang issue
/r/TheRedPill28/02/18 10:32 PM
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this is what i meant. i couldnt quite put it to words before Push/Pull aka Takeaways. The purpose of push/ pull teasing is to keep the woman that you are interested in guessing whether you like her or not. This is a very powerful form of teasing because it keeps the attraction going. From my experience when you first met a woman if she knows that you like her 100% I have found that it kills that attraction and she loses interest rather quickly. However with push/pull your showing your interest p…
/r/seduction28/02/18 05:00 AM
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If you're looking for weird girls. Post up around your local phsyc ward. If that's a bit too challenging for you, go to a couple bad neighborhoods and just look for a meth/crackhouse. Should be plenty of weird ones there.
/r/seduction26/02/18 02:43 PM
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This is something of a shit test. You never chase and this bothers them. It messes with there self esteem. The moment you acknowledge them, they get there fix. The chase is over before it even began. The trick in this situation is to be coy. She doesn't want to you to go after her, she wants to go after you. You don't ask her out, you challenge her. She needs to win you over. A date needs to be earned, not given as a gift. An invitation to a party is when you chat up other girls to create an abu…
/r/seduction26/02/18 02:33 PM
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Have you ever been Sky diving? The hardest part is building the courage to jump out that plane but once you've done it. You feel pretty good. That initial fear is the fear of dying. Your not saying it or conciously thinking it. All you know is that when the door opens, your heart rate skyrockets. If at the beginning when starting a conversation you feel that heart rate rise, you are scared. Weather you like it or not is inconsequential. If you can't find an excuse to talk or a reason to conversa…
/r/seduction12/02/18 05:53 PM
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I can do what i'm told but can't seem to be able to think for myself infield. Do you know whats going on or how to get over that weakness?
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:27 AM
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my bet is theyre loud because everyone else is talking right? develop your "club voice" learn to talk louder (not higher).once youve learned to project your voice and open them up, try to pull them to somewhere quieter.
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:24 AM
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ill be honest, i personally dont think ive ever felt "love" so take what i say with a grain of salt i believe love is about security, its not about who but about what you can do with them. Think about the things you would do if no one was watching, love is finding someone who you can do those things with. i think the common confusion is thinking love is lust. lust is finding that one hole that sticking your dick in feels good every time. love doesnt require sex, not even a kiss. love is about th…
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:20 AM
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I actually think that's a pretty appropriate response. If you play this right, it tricks her into think she's the cat and youre the mouse. like she caught you instead of you catching her. some girls like feeling like they're in control. all you would do in this situation is play it off like shes winning you over instead of you winning her. personally i wouldve joked and thrown out the worst pick up lines i could think of but truth be told, your response is probably better.
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:03 AM
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you are afraid of rejection, you just aren't consciously aware of it. think of the brain as 2 parts. The Animal, and The Computer. They both speak there own languages. now lets interpet what youre saying What I'm really afraid of is not knowing what to say and being judged for it. what youre actually saying This matters to me and im afraid of failing/ being rejected the whole last paragraph says " im afraid of being rejected and losing this one. now you probably think " ive talked to other girls…
/r/seduction11/02/18 02:53 AM
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leads means women. acquiring leads means getting her number or setting up a date, something that sets you up to have sex either now or the future. "the power of leads" is about getting multiple girls numbers, this is also known as "spinning plates". the more potential dates you have, the more potential sex you have. compliance means to cooperate. does the girl seem comfortable with you or does she seem distant. does she act like she likes you or does she want to leave.
/r/seduction11/02/18 02:19 AM
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all roads lead to the same ending, all that matters is that you enjoy what you do
/r/seduction11/02/18 01:48 AM
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The bigger the challenge , the better the loot. Really , day game works best because you are usually meeting people who have common interests. Dancing can be a common interest but if you only dance when you drink, odds are you either don't like dancing or lack confidence.
/r/seduction06/02/18 05:52 PM
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You can get away with a certain level of ugliness if your social skills are on point. Plus being ugly doesn't matter to a rave chick. That's. Pure confidence.
/r/seduction05/02/18 05:27 PM
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Easy mode - Raves Normal - night game Hard - Day game
/r/seduction05/02/18 04:32 PM
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if man looks like he's been shunned people will be reluctant to join them at the chance of being shunned as well. act like an outcast and you'll be treated as one.you can easily approach a group of people and make small talk to override this , no one around you knows how long youve known them, they just know you're with them. out of kindness, most people wont push you off for small talk. once youve merged with a group, its back to basics. people do this naturally all the time. you see someone do…
/r/seduction22/01/18 07:04 PM
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This relates back to the human animal. We are pack animals. Those who run alone are instinctively suspicious. On kino, it's meant to be a 'checkpoint' it gives you a gauge of how much a person likes you. Think of a hug. If a stranger walks up and hugs you, it'll be quite off putting vs an old friend. Alot of what you say, I agree, are valuable fundamental social skills. If you are attracting people but still feeling disconnected from them or yourself then everything you said is on point. Sometim…
/r/seduction22/01/18 05:09 PM
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if you find yourself losing interest/confidence, just say something stupid. entertain yourself. if she says she's going to the bathroom, give her second and then say "oh god, i can smell it from here ". if your going to give up, you might as well have fun with it.
/r/seduction21/01/18 10:46 PM
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you can still go clubbing.on of the major reasons older men dont do the club life is because the type of women you usually get there. the major benefit is that compared to day game, getting a women is much easier which helps increase confidence. day game you can say is open to all ages. its simply learning the art of small talk and adding some flirty undertones.plus you can find someone with some common interests. important note regarding age: a girl saying youre too old doesnt mean anything unl…
/r/seduction17/12/17 03:46 AM
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it sounds like your not happy with yourself so your trying to change the world. in the same way you cant make everyone follow the redpill way, you can't make the world do the same. take your cut, make your group, get in positions of power. the most influential people will never live to see the effects of there action. it takes a long time and requires the use of both the stupid and smart.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/17 07:15 PM
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you have what you want, why are you still playing? think about the 48 laws of power. it does tell you to play face, but it tells you that in order for you to get the power. it says once you have the power to lead go your own way. people will follow those with power, even when it seems insane. although LTR is not the "redpill" way even rollo has an LTR and a kid. start looking for the things you want. some RP people are afraid of speaking there mind or letting out there emotions because of the fe…
/r/TheRedPill26/11/17 03:16 PM
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i wouldnt be surprised. a judge might lean more towards law but a jury will most likley lean towards humanity. they will judge by emotion instead of reason. a lawyer tries to appeal to both aspects. thats why one gets to select the jury, to control the direction of the case.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 05:30 AM
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i dont agree with the "what are you wearing" aspect. clothing is just clothing, its not a "please grope me" sign. this is why kino tests work in escalation. on the other hand, if you are in a packed area with obviously inebriated people you are going to get touched, and rubbed up on. i do agree with you on the self responsibility aspect. being drunk doesnt excuse you from driving. it doesnt exclude you from vandalizing, there is no way it should be excusing you from having sex. a girl getting mo…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 11:05 PM
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genders are only equal pre puberty. after that biology takes over. this isnt just statistics like black people, this is defined chemical differences.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 10:57 PM
1

the real issue is that, things like snapchat and photoshop can pretty easily counter these filters. i dont think this app adds wrinkles but it does use a color filter. youd have to test it on yourself to really see.
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 12:50 AM
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This is the important part to know. Emotion supersedes logic. Her ranking system may be true but your goal is to make her "feel" like you meet that criteria. You can be an avid shitposter and then tell her you like to write. People don't bet on the winning horse, they bet on the horse they feel is going to win. In other words; you don't have to be the greatest, just make her feel like you're going to be.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/17 05:45 AM
1

you misunderstood what i said. your being nice because you were deluded into thinking being "nice" will get you what you want. You heard or saw someone successful say "being nice works". thats confirmation bias. now here you are, about to jump to the other extreme because you heard "being a dick works". you need to learn to realize the moment and stop trying to play a script. does being nice work? sometimes yes. does being a dick work? sometimes yes.If you actually read about seduction you'll se…
/r/seduction14/09/17 03:10 AM
1

well, where has being a dick got you? confirmation bias is how the whole "nice guy" personality came to be
/r/seduction14/09/17 02:18 AM
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the idea of taking control is to save eachother from wasting time. and sorting through fakes quicker . the idea of vagueness is so you know nothing is set in stone. when you get there, you are free to do as you please, no manipulation. if when youre there, one thing leads to another, well then, you got lost in the spontaneity, it happens, but the only thing forced in that entire conversation is the tight schedule.
/r/seduction15/08/17 04:59 AM
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dont care and dont like are 2 different things. when it said they dont care, its that they dont treat women special.They dont fear offending and are not afraid to say the wrong thing and lose her. they enjoy there own time and add women in as they would anyone else.
/r/seduction15/08/17 04:51 AM
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therapy. besides the obvious. try Neil strauss, Rules of the game; It sounds like you need to learn to socialize in general first.Don't just talk to pretty women, talk with women you don't find attractive, as well as men. start with casual, worthless, small talk.If you can learn to be comfortable talking about nothing, it will be much easier to work when you have a goal in mind.
/r/seduction05/08/17 08:35 PM
2

well lets imagine the worst case scenario. You ask her and she says no, or she has a boyfriend; What do you gain? you now know shes unavailable/uninterested and you don't think about it anymore.What do you lose? The time it took you to type the message. Now what if you dont ask her?What do you gain? nothing. now, What do you lose? You lose time thinking about her, you wonder about what if and haunt yourself, so much so you go to message boards to try and get it off your head. which one of those …
/r/seduction02/06/17 02:55 AM
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yeah. but it requires a change in character. its the same rules for the freindzone. to get out the freindzone, you need to stop being her friend. if you go back and your the same person she remembers, guess where your going? a new person gets new chances
/r/seduction27/05/17 06:29 PM
1

first off. get rid of logic.this is an emotion game, logic doesnt work well here. second. A pole will stand taller in the wind if you dig down first. talk down, then build up.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/17 03:17 AM
2

This is because you don't know her yet. If you wait until after a few times you have interacted with her, you will get to know her and will be able to "game" her, but by that point it is too late because you would already be in the friendzone. It is damned if you do, damned if you don't. wrong. you are getting her to know you, not you to know her. first thing you do is establish value (ie being chad/alpha or generally on a higher level). then you add some comfort,you are putting her in your frei…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/17 02:38 AM
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as usual, it's about self control. if anything the trp lifestyle should teach you, its how to take control. know what you can and can't control. if you are "healthy" (no diabeetus) then your weight comes down to whether or not you can read.If youve gotten this far, congratulations, you can move on to step 2. read the calories on food labels, if you dont have time to cook, then wherever your ordering from will have the calorie count labled. if they dont, myfitnesspal will. If you cant keep track …
/r/TheRedPill17/05/17 04:40 AM
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if you think you hit 7s on average then no girl is out of your league. the range is +- 3. one issue people have with hitting higher numbers is that the feel they have to be creative. what i mean by this is, they will practice there game on a 7, then make bullshit up with 9. what this ends up doing is screwing yourself. you don't practice on patients you practice on dummys. be creative with the girls you dont really care if you get.whatever works, you refine, then use on 9s.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/17 07:38 PM
3

It's depression. That constant desire to just sleep. Always wanting go home but having no idea what that is. What you need is an accountability friend and possibly antidepressants. Go on an app like my fitness pal. " friend " 3 people. Gain muscle. You will post your progress and comment on the progress of others once a day minimum. Even if you do nothing. If this makes you feel anxious then you should do it. If you don't want to do it, you must do it. Why? Because if you actually knew what you …
/r/askTRP14/04/17 05:02 AM
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this will get shot down most of the time. this isnt really teasing, its saying "im horny, lets fuck". essentially saying she has what you want, giving her the power. you might be a little better off making it look like you have the power. "hey you, lets get the fuck out of here, if your nice, i might just let you have your way with me". this is cocky because its essentially saying " entertain me, and i'll let you have dick, if i feel like it". its saying your dick is worth more than her pussy. n…
/r/askTRP13/04/17 05:37 AM
1

That's because business and women are the same. You will be shit tested. You need to show your market value and you need to spin partners like plates. Just trading sex for money
/r/askTRP12/04/17 03:00 AM
1

Pretty much. It's not a question of whether or not you will be shit tested. It's how often. The power in a relationship goes to whoever cares less.
/r/askTRP12/04/17 02:45 AM
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women use emotion, not logic.being a provider doesnt mean she'll like you more,otherwise rich people would never get cheated on. overall it sounds like youre the excitement they dont have
/r/askTRP11/04/17 06:09 AM
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same shit different dirt. look for something career wise. keep the city close by.
/r/askTRP11/04/17 06:03 AM
1

If you have the indian accent, youre going to struggle Here's the thing with ny and ca(cities specifically), they both have a LARGE abundance of women. Not being able to pick up in one of those 2 comes down more to confidence and style than race.if you hit the cities you want to learn to blend in, after that, you want to learn to stick out. the goal is to draw the eye without being an eyesore. As far as indie people go, there are a few in ny. i think aziz something talks about game as well and h…
/r/askTRP11/04/17 04:22 AM
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pretty much.The most likeable people are the assistants. The most respected is the boss.If you are getting people to do what you want. you need to be willing to be hated sometimes. If people were self responsible, a manager wouldn't be necessary. You are allowed to be nice, just dont compromise yourself for it
/r/askTRP15/03/17 11:04 PM
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jealousy is an emotion, don't argue logic with emotions. people will always hate those in power above them, thats where the alpha/beta concept comes from.You are likeable to the people that matter, thats the important part.
/r/askTRP15/03/17 10:33 PM
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thats because the average person lacks the intelligence or willpower to moderate. its easier to say "stop" than "limit this activity to "abc" amount". tell them "wait a week before fapping" and they will hold off, thinking about it all week. then when there day comes, will beat there dick raw, give up. then fap every day again.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 02:48 AM
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is this why we keep seeing those really sloppy girls with unusually high standards? this also happens with men.It's typical of "neckbeards".
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 05:49 AM
1

its the "mystery method" in a nutshell. you can practice this at anytime. it is recommended for people who are stable;getting your shit together should come before getting a women but that doesnt mean you dont make time for practice. practice at work if you have to. social skills are a universally necessary trait. i can near guarantee the people you work with go out regularly.if the least you can do is make friends with everyone, then that'll help you develop stories/ a more interesting life.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 08:13 PM
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jesus fuck. did you help him? this guy sounds like he needs a fucking sign. he sure as shit wouldnt swallow the red pill but the leash is so tight i dont even think hes aware there options,
/r/TheRedPill16/02/17 09:52 PM
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*ones also, watching and reading are not the same as doing.human interaction requires fluidity. fluidity cant be taught. Think of yourself as a hunter.You train, physically, and you know how to blend to your environment. on your hunting grounds, all thats available is small game.Youve watched many hunters talk about baiting and shooting but you seldom hunt yourself. when hunting small game, a shot anywhere will do but big game requires precise hits and special bait, sometimes even using small ga…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 09:40 AM
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In that case, I agree with you. Nonetheless, you will need practice for the good one. Don't neglect your social muscles.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 07:18 AM
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this is a very common bullshit excuse. if your gay or dont have any sexual interest, thats fine, but this excuse 90% of the time is just someone logicalizing being a pussy.They'll say anything to themselves to avoid talking to a women.They'll look like a fat ass neckbeard, dress like shit, have no friends and then call anything below an 8 ugly.when they do see the 8's and 9's they logicalize there bullshit with "shes probably a slut,bitch,whore" "shes not my type" i'll be honest, when my anxiety…
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 06:12 PM
3

tinder shouldnt be your go to source. face to face and day game matters more than tinder game. laziness is the home of oneitis. you already know how the shit with oneitis goes. put tinder on the backend.use it between lifts or when your waiting around.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 12:15 AM
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basically, instead of going to a club and telling her all the fun shit you do youre using pictures. nothings really changed.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/17 12:05 AM
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that and familiarity. people shy away from change. the laziness is the most prominent, not just because its easier to pick at old food but because some dont commit fully to the RP life, they get the girl and call it quits. they stop working out, stop dressing right, and stop practicing. i think there are special occasions you can get back with an ex (ie, you broke up with her because she moved, or you got bored of the relationship) but if you have to ask, the answer is no.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 11:58 PM
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the issue is theyre too pussy to even start a conversation. youre not going to get a rape charge talking to a stranger
/r/TheRedPill07/02/17 05:34 PM
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i dont have that book you asked for but heres the thread with the others. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5gut7r/red_pill_books_compilation_v3/ and heres another https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3at8mt/collection_of_some_trp_audio_books_and_pdfs/ just remember, doing is more important than knowing. read, test, understand
/r/RedPillBooks01/02/17 10:55 PM
1

generally speaking, when you ask someone out (anyone, not just women) you want to have the day and location in mind already. if they say no, you can ask them, whens a good time. that does sound like a soft rejection though. so i'd assume it over.
/r/seduction01/02/17 05:56 PM
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lets use an example from here Friend:"Haha he's on the 'eat nothing' diet". if i laugh and say "and youre on the eat everything diet" it shows im okay. if i instead say, "fuck off ,dumbass" it shows im not in the mood for that shit. its that simple.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 03:09 AM
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this is jealousy? this is how i usually play with my friends. they shit on you, you shit on them and then yous laugh cuz your confident in who you are. i dont know your personal life, or the context but i wouldnt say it was jealousy (except that last 1). the playfull bullshitting makes your game stronger. the important thing is calling it out when it bothers you and not being a passive aggressive beta. its universally known, confidence is key in all aspects of life. if your friends need to give …
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 01:00 AM
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read "no more mr nice guy" the friend zone is a dead end road, the only way out is back. you need to not see her or talk to her for a while. reinvent yourself (ie, read the book and better your life) and then maybe try again, after shes forgotten you a bit. before all this though, did you ask her out? your not friend zoned till youve been explicitly rejected as a friend. girls can be oblivious too.
/r/seduction31/01/17 09:23 PM
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The sidebar doesn't really enforce that ideology. There's a lot of tactics to improve your presence but honestly, how many threads have you seen here talking about making friends, learning to socialize or even weight routines. The whole recommended booklist is all getting over women's shit.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 04:29 PM
0

no it has to do with donald trump being sold by a mexican off the corner in california
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 04:51 AM
1

as applies to women applies to man. if they are low value, walk away. state your reasoning, if its irreparable, walk away. if a guy cheats or a girl cheats it's the same shit.if you fuck up, and then say it's okay, then go back to it when you fuck up, then YOU FUCKED UP. thats more typical from what ive seen
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 04:49 AM
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i dont know much about gay people but i assume theres still fights. if you want to play for the other team, more power to you
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 04:39 AM
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its not a women thing, its a baby thing. parents need to start calling it when they are around 3-4. you want to start breaking it before they go to school as they will use it on there teachers.people are more likely to call a little boy on that crybaby bullshit than a girl. thats the only reason it lasts so long
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 04:32 AM
1

this is the truth. all humans are animals. like any other animal, you need to train it to do flips.Betas are born of bad training/learning.same, manipulative women are born from training. if they were called on that shit early, theyd be less likley to use it.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/17 04:28 AM
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the sidebar concerns gaming. in the field you will come across 2 obstacles;leaders and orbiters AKA alphas and betas. An omega doesnt socialize / has no friends so they are not relevant or even a concern. omegas are only a concern if you are it.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/17 05:21 PM
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for the most part, i agree with this. if you are stuck at 0, have no friends and never been with a girl and are not angry enough to be a real man, then yeah, be a beta. you can see alot of "ex betas" talk about this macho asshole named "chad". betas have the advantage of seeing chad in action. they might not like it but they sure as shit will learn from it. an alpha gives you an idea of what to do. if your not even a beta, you probably lack any substantial social skill. its hard to neg a girl wh…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/17 05:29 AM
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sounds like your issue is youre socially retarded. besides reading the sidebar, id recommend reading "improve your social skills".
/r/TheRedPill28/01/17 05:13 AM
0

nightclubs are the training wheels of game. it teaches you to be who you have to be vs who you want to be (getting over yourself is an important skill) it teaches you to work with groups. people have friends, you need to befriend them as well, if for no other purpose than to know more about your target. it teaches you to handle other peoples bullshit. not put up with it but to curb that shit right out. it teaches you to flirt and neg. in day game, these are parts you add in towards the end as a …
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 06:54 PM
1

he just said he used to eat a lot of meat. also said when he had the heart attack he was in the middle of bulking so he was eating for cals and high protein
/r/TheRedPill25/01/17 03:11 AM
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nutrition i majorly important.i knew a guy who was in near perfect health could easily bench 225 and showed me a video of him pulling all the weights on one of the machines. He had a heart attack.full blockage when he finally got to the hopital. he wouldve tried to walk it off if his friend didnt force him to go to the hospital. they had to pad him too.they said the one he had is known as the widowmaker. literally the only fuck up was his cholesterol. Diet > weights
/r/TheRedPill24/01/17 09:44 PM
1

this is just a bullshit post until next year rolls through. you can pull this on women in an LTR because shes invested in you. in sales its a little different because after this, she isnt seeing you again. she has no reason to invest in you. (unless you do a good job, which will force her to think that treatment is the cost of premium service, in which case, you've made yourself memorable). i'll admit, you don't get repeat customers by giving a cheaper deal but business does follow the same init…
/r/TheRedPill13/01/17 07:03 PM
1

a thing it seems everyone seems to misunderstand is that, you are breaking the matrix. imagine going your whole life, thinking your a man only to find out you are actually a women. just imagine how that would flip your whole life. if you want kids, you need to sleep with a man. your dick is fake and youve been carefully conditioned not to know otherwise. if i told you this, you would tell me to go fuck myself, its all bullshit and im crazy.You see, to get a mouse out its whole, you dont hit the …
/r/TheRedPill08/01/17 01:48 AM
1

I like to think of oneitis like a pizza slice. There are millions of of pizzerias but you found a spot that makes them just right. So now they become your favorite plate. If the pizzeria starts serving bad pizza, you let them know, because they used to be good, or maybe you just don't like there pizza anymore. Either way, you can go to a new pizzeria or if the old spot fixes up, stay with that. What I'm saying is, even if you find one to keep an LTR with, this is TRP and we know if it ever goes …
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 10:58 PM
2

I'm not saying he is. His book on the other hand is. The skills taught in it are what I would call "the fundamentals. It's a book that can make a blue pillar swallow the pill and not realize it till the stomachs digesting. No matter what, I always recommend the first 5 chapters for blue pills,Omega,beta or just if you are generally not confident. They may have reverted back to blue pill but to say there gaming techniques didn't work is just foolish. Red or blue, it's all just a game and you need…
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 10:42 PM
5

no one ever recommends Rules of the game by neil strauss it literally gives you a day by day guide on what to do. i would put it towards p3-p4 but having a guidebook is fairly helpful at the beginning
/r/TheRedPill07/12/16 02:09 AM
1

rules of the game by neil strauss if your in college, theres women all around you. for this book, if you get anything from it, is just the first 5 days. they will help you in general, not just with women. they all help build confidence
/r/seduction27/11/16 05:57 PM
1

read the mystery method. dont take it to heart. just think of it as a fundamental. kino only has 1 purpose, testing interest. she needs to be interested in you before you seem interested in her. even in day game, casual conversation is a part of the mix. you tell a story that makes you seem interesting, you tease/neg to downplay her and then you do kino to test if shes willing to chase, it sounds like you are doing kino but not understanding what it means. remember, there is a pass and fail of k…
/r/seduction20/11/16 01:32 AM
2

ive always heard charles manson used the book to get those women to kill for him. in my eyes that's a gleaming endorsement. its not simply about giving praise;in trp terms, it would be giving IOI's. the book is about getting people to do what you want. letting them say what they want to here and making it seem like you care. this book i would say is more of a guide against men than women, it's about feeding a hungry ego. like u/losectrl said, its a salemans guide. you use this book to get people…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:09 PM
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i think you did the ego drop and never picked it back up. they say the best way to pick up women is to not be so interested. im guessing you reached that point where you genuinely aren't and simply dont care anymore. if you can do it(have done it), its not fear. if youre not interested but want to be, it may be medical (low testosterone/ depression). if its just women dont seem any more special than anyone else, then youve reached the calm.
/r/seduction19/11/16 03:51 PM
1

you can. talk about something you intend to do. lets say, hypothetically you are talking about movies, mid conversation, you can say something along the lines of "oh hey, im going with friends to see (movie) on (some day in the future" sometime next week") you should come with us". if she says okay, you say, "alright, let me get your number, i'll call you if we change things" . then continue the conversation as usual. if she says no,depending how she says no, either move on, or move on. blunt no…
/r/seduction19/11/16 01:30 AM
1

where do you drop the ball? there's alot of variables between starting and closing but 2 universals are, getting the number before you leave, and not giving up until she walks away.
/r/seduction18/11/16 03:58 AM
1

thats when you do rejection challenges. this stuff gets to you because , like you said, you want too badly to succeed. Think of it like a game, at first you may want to get good but at 1 point, you just say, "fuck it" and just start messing around, enjoying it instead of trying to win. the frustration goes away, then you get back at it feeling better, maybe even learning something new. so go out there and just have fun. look at a girl and just let yourself think "wow, if i said a pickup line tha…
/r/seduction10/11/16 01:43 AM
1

did you only talk with her while on the line? that could lower your value by making her the center of attention. if you talk with strangers, it makes you look confident. talking with more women makes you look valuable (it may also make her jealous).
/r/seduction10/11/16 01:22 AM
1

did you do the whole closing your eyes thing? you could use that closing distance to throw a neg. ie. something on your face, shit in your eye. even the pucking lips you could excuse as blowing the shit off
/r/seduction06/11/16 07:38 AM
2

who shes with and who she wants are 2 different things, be wary
/r/seduction06/11/16 07:27 AM
3

you didnt fuck up, not yet at least. next time talk with her and tell her your going to get something to eat, invite her. now ask her, or if you want to be indirect, ask what she does to keep herself busy, like work, family, hobby.-make your motives clear now, any further will most likely put you in the friend zone.- dont get to held up on her though, having her as a friend gives you some social proof when talking with other women in the school.
/r/seduction06/11/16 07:21 AM
1

honestly, groups actually work to your advantage. this is when you want to use indirect openers. when you use an indirect opener on a group, they feed the conversational material, making you look more interesting with less work. The mystery method covers group dynamics pretty well. you want to befriend her friends and playfully neg her. making you look more valuable to them while simultaneously decreasing her value. she needs to earn her approval. her effort to earn it will make her interested i…
/r/seduction06/11/16 07:03 AM
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change is rarely easy. many a beta wil roll through this sub and never change themselves. millions of people are out there living unsatisfying lives because they fear change and the consequences of it. i feel sympathy for all of them but only lose it when they deny help. i get wanting to change im okay with fat people, its there life to live and there's to die, just like smokers and drinkers.what i hate is just the "blame the world" attitude. you can only blame the past for who you were yesterda…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 05:05 AM
1

body language, body language, body language. when you read, its read in your voice, in your thoughts and conveys to your feelings. you watch a video, you feel there charisma, infected with there confidence(if not only briefly), and acquire there feelings. to put it in perspective. its like going to the gym. in 1 case you go there silently, in another you have "motivational" music, in another you brought friends. logically speaking, there should be no difference but when you see these instances p…
/r/seduction20/10/16 11:55 PM
2

anybody read dale carnegies book? he talks about marriage in the last chapter and even has a checklist for both partners.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/16 03:03 AM
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the basis that she is a nobody doesnt change anything. there are men who pick up 10's and get shooed by 6's the same day.throwing a tantrum is childish and very beta.that's what this is.while everyone is trying to pick up a story you simply don't give it to them.there's no requirement to answer every question and you can easily make her look like the embarrassment . if you went to a party and a girl called you fat or ugly, you don't leave the party, you leave her.If someone talks about it you ac…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 06:23 PM
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this is going to have the exact opposite effect. example.dont think about where your tongue is in your mouth,or try not to notice your breathing. a basic rule in maintaining frame is ignore the person trying to break it and continue like it never happened.him canceling all interviews is like him saying "she got to me" much like a guy saying "i hate all women" because 1 girl played him or rejected him. he may be rich and successful but even rich men get cheated on.he is a beta. the propper thing …
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 05:53 PM
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i dont see it here but " so what keeps you busy?". Most people don't understand the question, but that's a good thing, because now you can ask them everything at once.This is useful when you are trying to avoid "the interview".It covers more topics at once and saves face on an otherwise uninteresting person. also this is a good time to look for non-verbals. try to see if you can guess witch one they would like talking about.(if they don't just jump it and start talking anyway) Note:This works un…
/r/seduction05/09/16 12:12 AM
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this idea is perfect.competition and gaming are strong motivators for men.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/16 11:40 PM
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