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Horniness is a powerful emotion. It can lead you to believe that what you desire is an actual need. Perhaps, the second question is to signal to your partner that you would really appreciate them doing this for you, as it would provide a tremendous relief. Sometimes partners do things for each other that aren’t always mutually beneficial. Would it better to just go masturbate instead? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:45 PM
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Being horny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:28 PM
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Right, it’s mostly his fault for applying the pressure and being persistent. But the woman should also hold some accountability for giving verbal consent. Let’s say that a man asked for sex, the girl responded with “I’m not in the mood now”, and then 5 minutes later he asked again, and that was enough for her to verbally consent. Is it fair that the man can be convicted of rape? I don’t think so. How’s the man supposed to know she genuinely doesn’t want sex? 5 minutes is enough time for a mood s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:15 PM
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No, I never mentioned anything about woman lying about rape for attention. Although sometimes women do lie about it for other reasons. I am saying in this particular scenario, woman who give consent after feeling pressure from their partners, albeit reluctantly, gives up the power dynamic in the relationship that benefits them. But to gain the power back, they place blame on their partners, even though they verbally consented. But woman can do a lot of things to get out of such a situation, like…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:56 PM
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Yeah, I feel like from my moral standpoint, I don’t think this is rape. If a woman gets asked for sex x number of times, but at some point she says yes, insofar as there is no threat or intimidation, then it’s not rape. I wouldn’t even consider it verbal coercion. Just like you may feel pressured by a salesman to buy something you don’t necessarily want, even if they are annoyingly persistent about it, if you give in, that is on you as a buyer. Plus, let’s not pretend like woman don’t also get p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:31 PM
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That’s true. Sort of a gray area. But if the yes is not ongoing, enthusiastic, and freely given, it is not considered valid consent by the law. I think the enthusiastic part would be the obvious thing missing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:32 PM
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That’s not true. Men can be raped when they are drugged, intoxicated, asleep, blackmailed or threatened, physically restrained, forced with a deadly weapon, or if they just say no. Which is the point you missed here. At some point the woman says yes, therefore giving consent. Was it verbally coerced? Yes. But that’s not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:43 PM
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They are not choosing to stay single. They are just choosing to not get in a relationship with hopes that someone better will come along who meets their extremely long list of criteria. Or who is either charismatic, good looking, and/or wealthy enough which causes them to completely drop all their standards. “But they had a problem with a woman who makes more, even if they don’t say” If it’s not said, how do you know this? Projection? “And as more and more woman make higher salaries, less and le…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:07 PM
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Got it. So woman get to keep their privilege of being the more sexually desired gender while absolving themselves of all the responsibility of this privilege, which is to select carefully. The reason why woman had the privilege to begin with is because of how burdensome childbirth is. But now the less sexually desired gender has MORE responsibility when it comes to sex because woman can’t resist the need to fuck men irresponsibility. And god forbid, woman actually take any accountability for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:04 AM
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When you talk about powerful men, do you realize what a small percentage of men that was, historically? We are talking about 1%. Do you think if 1% of women historically cheated on their husbands, and for the sake of the argument, this was done almost exclusively by women and very seldom men, does that mean we should blame the entire female gender for perpetuating a system of infidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:42 AM
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Like I said earlier, all power to you. Hope your optimism for single adult life holds up when your friends focus on their families/relationships and your romantic options dwindle. You like average men, do ya? The average man is 5’8-9” who makes 67k per year, who is slightly overweight, and has a very average personality. If you are looking for someone who is 6ft tall and above who makes over 6 figures, that’s 15% of the population. If you want them to be moderately attractive, charismatic and fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:46 PM
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I’ve heard this a million times but yet woman are constantly seeking attention and validation from men. Perhaps, if men stopped making you feel valued, you’d realize your craving for affection and physical intimacy is not all that different from men. When something’s easily attainable, we don’t want it. Average men are easily attainable, so you don’t want it. It’s human nature. But if you aren’t careful, you might miss your window of opportunity to have a fulfilling relationship all because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:26 PM
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All power to you. Have fun being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:22 PM
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You can orient your life in such a way where a car is not needed, just like you can without a significant other. Is it the easiest road to go? No. But it’s doable. The dilemma is that in this scenario you mention, the woman is increasing her ability to attain the car she wants over time, by accumulating more money. In dating, woman’s dating appeal does not increase as time goes on. In fact, it’s the opposite. Just like mating is unfair for men, it’s unfair for woman too. Just in different ways. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:42 PM
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Well it was a simplistic analogy that nails the point home. There is a subset of the population, namely single mid-tier women, complaining about men not meeting their standards and the ones that do don’t want to commit to them. There is also a subset of the population, namely single mid-tier men, complaining because they can’t find anyone willing to date them, despite their eagerness to date mid-tier woman. From a logical perspective, this problem could be easily solvable. Mid-tier woman should …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:44 PM
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The question “why do mid tier women believe they deserve top tier men?” is a valid question to ask. Let’s assume that we saw a trend where averagely paid woman are starting believe they can buy expensive cars they cannot afford. Isn’t it fair to ask “why do you think you deserve an expensive car?” If women responded with “I got to test drive the car and therefore that’s my new standard”, “I don’t like average cars”, “Average cars need to be better or else I won’t buy them”, or ”I can’t help what…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:19 PM
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Bitter much? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:37 PM
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Lmao I mean what did you disagree with? Do you prefer men who are shorter than 6 ft? Do you prefer men who make less than you? Do you prefer men who are not confident, charismatic, competent, or funny? Do you know many woman who have such preferences? The problem with listening to women’s advice is that who they say they want to date and who they actually date tend to be very different. It’s not that men should treat woman poorly, it’s that they tend to date guys that treat them poorly. Why? My …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:29 AM
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Well your thoughts and actions are misaligned. Your actions suggest that’s what you do. Dating app stats suggest that’s what you do. The eye test suggests that’s what you do. Every man who meets this criteria of “Chad” in my social circle agrees that’s what you do. Superior is just an easy way of saying one party offers much more to a relationship than the other does. Whether that is finances, looks, personality, or likely some combo of each, it doesn’t change the fact that woman are looking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:36 AM
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I never advocated for there to be some type of enforcement of what woman should desire. Y’all love to straw man but to jump straight to rape is pretty insane lmao. It’s just impossible to believe that an average woman, who is uncharismatic, uninteresting, not funny, and doesn’t really offer a whole lot to relationship that men care about can ONLY desire an extremely rare man, who they frankly will almost never qualify for a committed relationship with. A man who is 6+ft tall, makes 6+ figures, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:09 AM
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Women are absolutely more misandrist than men are misogynistic in today’s society. I have never heard a man say “I hate all women”, “the world would be better off without women”, “all woman are creeps”, “toxic femininity”, “all woman are pigs”, etc. I’ve never even had the slightest hint that men feel that way about women. The amount of harm feminism has done to normalize contempt for men is outrageous and nearly dehumanizing. Outside of subs like this where men complain about woman’s dating pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:41 PM
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“There’s more pressure on woman to be presentable even when we aren’t genetically blessed” Who applies this pressure exactly? If men are are unkempt and unclean, do you think it’s rationale to assume that they are the ones applying this pressure? Or do you think it’s the woman around competing for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:14 AM
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While I agree a lot with what you said, I tend to disagree with the opinion that women actually have agency to choose differently than they do, romantically speaking. Woman will be upset about your post mostly because not only do they not want to take responsibility for their bad encounters with men, which they often get themselves into, they themselves don’t FEEL responsible for these encounters. To understand why they don’t feel responsible, we must examine why. I believe woman react to emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:20 PM
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And why the fuck does anybody date exactly? If there is no fucking involved, then why don’t you just have friends instead? Woman enjoy sex too, which is why they date. Don’t give me this bullshit that woman aren’t way more transactional than men. Men get the payoff of sex because of the extra work and money we put in to earn y’alls attraction. Sex isn’t a payoff for woman because they forced the man to earn it. Sex is just the icing on the cake for yall
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:33 PM
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Yup, I wouldn’t have used the phrase “put up” if I thought the interaction wasn’t a completely unfair exchange, but it is. Why should men have to be noble? Yall are dating to get free shit and have men entertain you and you may reward such behavior with sex. Should I pretend like I enjoyed being taken advantage of to accomplish my goal of getting physical intimacy? Do I wish I could have an equal exchange instead? Yes. Would I look at sex as a payoff if the exchange was more equal? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:20 PM
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I wish I could just turn off my libido at times. But as an unfortunate as it is, I and many other men still desire the pleasure of sex so we put up with your shenanigans even though we know how bullshit it is. It’s either true that it’s in your nature, which means your nature is to take advantage of men. Or it’s true that y’all don’t HAVE to take advantage of men, but you choose to by being manipulative and deceitful to get what you want. Either way, it’s hard to argue that woman are virtuous cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:10 PM
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Right, a lot of woman’s preferences in modern dating seem rather convenient. They just happen to want a man that does the majority of the planning, initiating, paying, entertaining, provoking laughter, listening, fixing/building things. Then you may ask what do woman actually provide to a relationship if men do all the hard stuff? The answer is physical intimacy and very little else. If they so happen to choose, they may decide to have children as well. But that sucks for both parties pretty equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:30 PM
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I mean if you compare that to what an ugly man experiences, it is unequivocally better. Can you imagine a life of absolutely zero validation and physical intimacy, not even a slight hint? That’s the typical experience of an ugly man. A privilege can only be understood by those who do not possess such privilege. I think men and woman desire physical intimacy at a biological level the same way. It’s just that woman are bombarded by it and men have to work so hard to earn it that men desire it more…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:14 AM
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When it comes to sexual desirability: Ugly Women >= Ugly Men (0 - 3) Average Women > Average Men (4 - 6) Attractive Women >= Attractive Men (7 - 10) There is no scenario where women are less sexually desirable than their male equivalents; thus, using the word women as a means to compare all woman vs all men still holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:27 PM
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Right, safety is certainly an issue when there are no regulations. Also, prostitution is legal as long as it’s filmed and posted online, which makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:25 PM
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Right, I mean woman sleep with men for their money all the time. Perhaps, they have good genes to acquire resources but some of these men are objectively unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:33 PM
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I think it would solve a lot of problems if it were legalized. Masturbation can’t resolve the feeling of physical loneliness. The skin to skin contact and physical pleasure of sex is all men really need. The validation that comes along with feeling “desired” is just extra fluff that feeds the ego, but it’s not really a biological need. We live in a transactional world. Everything we do is transactional. We can pretend to be these altruistic beings but I have yet to hear of a single example of so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:16 PM
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I mean I feel like it’s the opposite where men are afraid of the backlash they’ll get for being honest. Y’all are so incredibly harsh with men. If you can dish out your honest opinions about how men aren’t good enough for woman, then you can hear about the downsides of being highly selective
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:37 AM
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You are in a very small percentage of people. Must be nice to not have the burden of sexual desire driving decisions in your life. Although, I’m sure that can feel isolating at times. Do you think your autism plays a role in being ace? Or are they completely independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:48 PM
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You are misunderstanding what I mean by one and done. Woman who engage in casual sex tend to go after guys that are superior to them and are disqualified from a committed relationship. Casual sex is by definition selfish. No strings attached. Just sex. He probably just wants to orgasm and doesn’t care about whether or not you orgasm. That’s one of the disadvantages of being a woman who is always dating up. Perhaps, it’s not clear you are busing used for sex but it likely the case is he isn’t try…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:26 PM
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I mean from my experience woman just expect men to know. They are not very good at communicating explicitly. Also, this is only likely to happen with casual sex. If you don’t like having casual sex, stop doing it. There is almost zero incentive for men to make you cum during casual sex because he likely already knows you are a one and done. If he got himself in a situation to have casual sex with you, he can likely do it with other woman as well. If you’ve only ever had bad sex, you either only …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:51 PM
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Maybe it has more to with my stance on human nature rather how I view woman? I tend to think humans have very limited free will and we act according to our biological nature and past experiences, but that’s a different debate. I view men this way too. Also, it’s pretty egregious to suggest that looking at our opposite sex as a resource is gross when woman are hypergamous and tend to expect men to disproportionately share their resources with them despite have the same privilege to earn “provider…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:18 AM
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This is a good take. Dating woman tends to be a drain financially and emotionally. Sexual frustration is the hardest part to cope with I suppose but beyond that, not much reason to pursue a relationship anymore unless you want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:31 AM
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I mean not only is it a net positive for society it is also fair because our access to sex and relationships would equalize. There is a pretty big disparity at the moment. What’s not fair is liberating yourselves from the responsibility of child bearing and taking complete advantage of your privilege of being the gatekeepers of sex, enabling you to choose mates who won’t commit to you. This privilege has never been unchecked in the history of all mating species, which is why I used the word allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:25 PM
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It just means that it would be a net positive for society. The way woman are dating in modern times are benefitting a relatively small percentage of men and is arguably harmful to society and woman as well all under the guise of woman empowerment. Nature is undeniably unfair. Humans have worked hard to achieve a more egalitarian society, but we are still not very close to a truly fair society. One problem is the disadvantages that men used to face in the dating marketplace have only gotten worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:11 PM
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It’s because woman have framed what happiness means in society and men don’t meet that criteria nor do they want to. In layman’s terms, this means to remain “happily” single until someone too good for them sweeps them off their feet. This works well for woman because if they want sex, they can get it, even if it means being strung along in situationships or just being used for their bodies by superior men. This doesn’t work for men unless we are willing to sleep with woman vastly inferior to us,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:12 PM
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I mean perhaps you aren’t good at communicating what gets you off? If you are engaging in casual sex, your chances of orgasming are much lower as woman all have different things they like. No matter how experienced a guy is, he’s not a mind reader as much yall want us to be. Also, with casual sex there tends to be drinking involved which also makes sex less sensational. But good sex is probably the best organic feeling a person can have. The best sex can only be achieved through a strong emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:51 PM
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Like I said, if you don’t enter a committed relationship I.e marriage or long term relationship, you will lose access to these relationships over time. That’s the risk you seem to be ignoring here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:27 PM
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Right. Human beings tend to cope the best they can with the circumstances they’ve been given. If that means hanging out with other lonely people, then that’s what they’ll do. If that means occupying their time doing hobbies to avoid feeling depressed then they’ll do that too. But the chances of eventual isolation and depression are higher with current dating patterns, which is often date toxic men that pretend to like you for sex or choose to be alone. In both cases, they will end up a lone and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:24 PM
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And I’d argue that the fear is justified since loneliness and isolation is probably worse than being in a committed relationship with someone who may not wow you but is still a quality partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:10 PM
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Right. Woman have the right to date around obviously. But what woman don’t realize is that their access to sex and relationships goes down drastically as they age and their biological clock runs out. Choosing a life alone seems fine until it’s too late. A life alone also means you’ll have to find non romantic social connections which is hard to do as it’s hard to find people that you like to be around, as you pointed out. I think woman like to pretend their winning in life because they always ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:04 PM
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That’s why I asked what you meant by that. I mean this is pretty much the same sentiment as virtually all the woman who are going end up single and childless, which is predicted to be about 45%. First mistake is to assume that your access to sex and relationships won’t drastically decline as you get older. Another is that you qualify for such men that bring you an overwhelming sense of infatuation or sparks. Perhaps the idea of choosing being alone over someone you qualify for a relationship wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:51 PM
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Are there older single people who’ve managed to find outlets to maintain a fulfilling and interesting social life? I never claimed that doesn’t happen. Would their lives potentially more fulfilling if they had a lifelong partner whom they actually like being around? I think that’s likely. The people whom you’ve referenced could be better off single, as they may have chosen a bad partner in their past. Are there people who end up sad and lonely as a consequence of being perpetually single or get …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:58 PM
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But what does it mean to not want to get married? Like do you still want an active sex life? Do you want romantic relationships in any capacity? Do you still want an active social life as you age? If you want to secure these, getting married and having kids will make this a more likely outcome. I think people like to pretend they understand how their future selves will handle long term loneliness but I don’t think people can really fathom it. They just say it because it sounds empowering. Such p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:41 PM
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Just like a male peacock does not deny sex from those he tries to impress and mate with, men will not either. A lot of yall think you qualify for a relationship with a superior man but often you just qualify for sex. It’s not our responsibility to deny sex. It’s YOUR privilege of being the selectors of sex and the corresponding responsibility is to select carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:29 PM
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Not sure what I’m projecting here. Y’all desire a small percentage of men. These type of men understand their worth. They may use you for sex because if they were honest about their intentions, they would lose access to it, assuming said woman wants a relationship. Not saying it’s moral or ethical. Woman do this to themselves as well by dating up. You’ll minimize these risks by dating someone on similar level as yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:24 PM
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Yes, well since being the type of man that yall are seeking requires such a rare set of skills and attributes, they make the most of it. Sometimes that means just having casual sex. Sometimes that means dragging on a situationship for a while until someone more equal comes along. Sometimes that means pretending to be in a committed relationship until something better comes along. But those of you are actually dating someone who you qualify for a long term commitment, you likely learned from past…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:33 AM
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“And too many men here think they qualify for relationships at all” I think this line of thinking is the crux of the problem. Woman think they’re superior to men in the dating market place and they’re simply not. Men don’t demand nearly as much as woman do from their potential partners because we are not so delusional about our worth in the dating world. Men finding more woman attractive than woman finding men attractive is a direct result of woman overestimating their worth instead of them actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:26 AM
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It’s not choosing what they want is bad. It’s that what they want is based on delusion of what they qualify for. They simply desire men they do not qualify for a relationship with. I think woman not being attracted to their male equivalents is not some natural law of life. It’s more so woman have inflated egos from dating apps, social media, woman empowerment propaganda, and society supporting their delusions. You can probably understand that there have been woman you “wanted” that you had virtu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:26 PM
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Which also disproportionately hurts men because woman date up financially more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:29 PM
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Yes, I agree. To further take this point home, men are straight up being taken advantage of in many relationships. Since woman have “de-centered” men, woman have only been dating guys that contribute significantly more than they do to a relationship, as they’re always looking for the best deal. Dating is now just a bad deal for men as woman use us for our money (hypergamy), ask us to contribute equally or more around the house, and are willing divorce us at 70% clip. Men just need to figure out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:18 PM
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This statistic in no way proves woman are not hypergamous. Woman chase after men they don’t qualify for a relationship with, more often now after largely decoupling pregnancy risk and sex with the advent of birth control, IUDs, abortion, etc. Woman accidentally becomes pregnant after sleeping with said man. Man doesn’t want to stay with her for aforementioned reasons and is now a single mother. This results in a minority (25%) of children being born into poverty. The risk is low but too many wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:01 PM
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Jesus, another emotionally driven post rooted in bad faith and pettiness. I mean yeah, men are allowed to reject woman and vice versa after a woman has selected the man as a mate. Woman being the selectors of their mates is a bit nuanced and requires more than an elementary understanding of human mating patterns. Mens role has traditionally been and still is to court woman. Men court woman they find attractive and woman are the ultimate deciders if they want to reciprocate. Unless you are some t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:10 AM
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That wasn’t my point in this post but I still think you’re wrong here. Men are still largely expected to provide and protect and woman are largely NOT expected to bear children or do majority of the housework. Protecting doesn’t mean tomorrow, I have to go out to battle on the frontlines or hunt dangerous animals for food. But the draft ONLY selects men and the vast majority of combat roles in the military are occupied by men. Warfare still happens today. When woman are under physical threat, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:42 AM
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The amount of gaslighting that goes on when pointing obvious disadvantages that men are facing in current dating is insane. Feminism has really destroyed men’s ability to be critical of woman in any capacity, meanwhile, they shit on men all the time and we just need to accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:30 AM
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Lmao wonderful critique.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:24 AM
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Woman should desire men that are on a similar level as them to secure commitment, assuming they are looking for a relationship. I don’t believe woman are incapable of being attracted to their male equivalents. I just think woman over value their worth and think they are deserving of more than they are worth and it’s causing good candidates to be disqualified. Now that yalll can have sex without risk of childbirth, yall have become pretty delusional with who you think you deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:01 PM
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This may be the dumbest takeaway from this post that I’ve read.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:57 PM
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I’m convinced most of yall have serious reading comprehension deficiencies. Address points or fuck off. You misconstrued me laying out the disadvantages of the traditional male gender role as me claiming that most average man today is still do those, which was not my point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:56 PM
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Woman own the privilege is selecting their mate. Men do not. Idk why yall have such a hard time with this. The agency is not the same when you recognize this. You misunderstood equality as meaning we have the same privileges and responsibilities. I never argued that. Things used to be more equal because woman had responsibilities associated with their privileges. Now they don’t. Men still do. I mean men are the majority of cooks but I don’t deny woman work in industries that align with their tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:39 PM
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There is this confusion that woman somehow can’t be attracted to men in their own league. I think it’s bullshit. Just because you desire something in life doesn’t mean you get it. I desire Margot Robbie but I’m not dumb enough to believe I can secure a relationship with her. I have lower standards because I’m not shallow and can still be attracted to woman that are in my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:06 PM
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Not sure. Maybe as woman keep racking up bodies, men should lean into their instincts and reject woman from relationships when they’ve over used their privilege. But desperate men will continue to date sexually promiscuous woman, despite their best judgement, so woman are still rewarded. It should be socially acceptable to ask about body count and filter woman out based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:03 PM
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I mean yeah yall used to actually have responsibilities in society. But yall fought so hard to absolve your responsibilities under the guise of progress and now you’ve finally achieved it. So your overall worth in society has declined pretty significantly, considering your contributions are much less than they used to be. Men and woman alike dont need each other necessarily, but life could be more fulfilling with a companion to share life and physical intimacy with. Neither woman nor men are win…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:36 PM
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Cute to use demeaning terms to describe men instead of holding any accountability for not taking on any responsibility in society besides looking after yourself. Always finding the “best deal” aka being used for sex by men who won’t commit to you or finding a man who contributes more to a relationship than you. Woman absolving their responsibilities in society have led them to be the most delusional and selfish creatures on the planet and it’s just a bad deal for men, now. If we didn’t need/desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:08 PM
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Lmao saying you don’t need men is historical. How do you think any of this infrastructure was built and continues to be built. The electrical grid, construction, plumbing, oil rigs, combat jobs/police, farming are all jobs that are 80+% men. Just because we live in a time where y’all can have comfy office jobs does not mean you are contributing to society in any meaningful way. Without men doing their part, society would collapse and you would be begging for them to take on those responsibilitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:00 PM
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I could argue several more points, like how woman initiate divorces at an 80% rate, woman expect men to shoulder the emotional burden by being the stoic man they can share all their emotions with, meanwhile when we share emotions with them, they don’t respond the same way and often find it off putting. Woman tend to not take accountability for issues in relationships and blame everything on the man while we have sit back and accept that’s it’s our fault. Woman who don’t have or want children are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:35 AM
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I would argue woman benefit more from relationships but the rest seems true. It’s hard to imagine as a man what it might be like to have someone share their resources with you to a large degree but I’d imagine if we had that privilege, we would feel kinda icky about it, at least I would. I don’t think woman feel that way. This is all a result of our long history of gender roles and it’s practically rooted in our biology now. Or perhaps our gender roles were a result of our biology but point stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:22 AM
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Convenient to say when you’ve rid yourself of every responsibility in society besides to look after yourself and see how you can get the “best deal” aka contributing less to a relationship. Y’all used to be worthy of protecting. I’m not so sure anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:44 AM
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Yeah, but if you know she’s only with you because she’s benefiting more than you, doesn’t that make you feel like you are being used? Does it feel good to be in a relationship ship where you contribute more?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:41 AM
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Baseless insults to deflect from holding any accountability. Wouldn’t expect anything less
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:37 AM
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I mean sex is a privilege and woman are the gatekeepers of it. I was comparing it to a male privilege. But if you didn’t see sex as a privilege that woman have then it’s a moot point. They are not exact parallels but just saying sex is sex and both parties can equally participate is ignoring the fact that woman own this privilege. I mean, the stats I provided were for heterosexual woman and men. I mean there was a whole ass app that came up called “am I dating the same guy?” Or something and it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:08 AM
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Because no one knew how delusional you’d become when living with such a powerful privilege without any responsibility to come with it. I’d say more so than insecurity, it’s just realistic, which is a trait I know y’all struggle with. Considering how woman are probably the most selfish and judgmental creatures on the planet, not being able make them orgasm like the last dude they were with is likely enough for me to be disqualified. Something that is truly pathetic is a mediocre woman thinking sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:52 PM
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Just making up for the lost time listening to lectures by feminists demonizing men and handpicking all the disadvantages woman have faced while completely disregarding mens issue. I’m pretty sure woman are the world champs of whining. Can’t stand the thought that woman are not the disadvantaged group in any situation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:26 PM
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This is coming from the perspective of a woman who can be extremely mediocre and still have a laundry list of expectations because men still will give you the attention you desire, unless you’re pretty damn ugly. Woman really have no idea what dating is like as a man. The vast majority of men cannot even get a date, no matter how hard they try. I feel like it’s weird that men have a decent idea of what dating is like as a woman but woman literally have no clue what it’s like as a man. What you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:23 PM
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Right. That’s why I didn’t propose a solution. Men keep obliging because we never had the privilege of selecting our mate. So we don’t have the leverage to have such demands. I’m actually thinking prostitution should be legalized, de-stigmatized, and accessible so men don’t have to put up with being taken advantage of. It’s all transactional anyways so why the fuck don’t I just pay for what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:09 PM
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Yall know it all too well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:05 PM
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I’m sure your husband loves that your hobby and passion is come on Reddit to shit on men while he is out doing cool shit. Talk about a one sided relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:05 PM
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Right I’d argue than woman absolving their responsibility of potential child birth from sex and dating apps have been a recipe for disaster. If the responsibility of child birth was there for each sexual encounter, dating apps would still restrict woman from chasing too far out of their league to ensure they are not going to end up a single mother
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:52 PM
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Alright. Just because I want Margot Robbie doesn’t mean I’ll get her. I am definitely not going to pretend like a life alone is better than a life without her. Once that biological clock starts ticking, you may start rethinking your options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:44 PM
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I’m not mad lol. I’m just trying to point an observation that I think is widespread enough to raise attention to it. I don’t like doubt standards. I don’t like pretending woman don’t have privileges. I don’t think relationships should be one sided. Good on you man. You are the exception no the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:39 PM
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The equal house chore thing is just what a a lot of woman request because they don’t want to feel reduced to the “feminine” gender role. Idk if most ask but my hunch is a decent percentage do. But woman just think they are better at house chores so they may take over and even though the guy does try. They then hold resentment for their partner for not doing house chores but in reality, they did but it just wasn’t good enough for them. It’s the standard for most woman and why would they not want …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:33 PM
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Because woman are out here being lied to and traumatized by men who lead them on for sex. I don’t see how woman would benefit from this either unless they just live for the thrill. I mean it’s generally true what I said but yes, it is not “all” woman. My mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:31 PM
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Men don’t have the privilege of being the selectors unfortunately. Woman still pick the “best deal” and as long as men keep obliging, woman are going to be benefitting more from relationships than men are. So alone or be taken advantage of are the choices. Not sure what’s better. Maybe I should just unlearn my disdain for hookup culture and just start hooking up. While it’s expensive as well, at least it’s not consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:28 PM
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If I thought the woman had a roster of other men she was sleeping with and all she wanted from me was sex, I would choose the safer option, assuming I found both attractive (albeit the one I pick is less attractive). But I am not really just looking for sex so there’s that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:22 PM
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Yeah, woman certainly don’t have a history of whining about their societal issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:19 PM
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That’s like saying, why don’t woman just provide for men, anyone can provide for anyone. While technically true, men still uphold the responsibility that came with our “privilege” as providers, though to a lesser extent. Woman still have the privilege of being the “selectors” but absolved responsibility that came with it, meaning they are choosing to sleep with men who realistically won’t commit to them but they have hopes of it working out (spoiler: it doesn’t) Well statistics show 65% of 20-30…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:11 PM
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When did I ask woman to do anything for free? I am just asking woman to stop requesting that we contribute more than half for a relationship. If you date up financially, that’s your prerogative but there are responsibilities that come with that. Y’all aren’t this oppressed class of people anymore. Yall have all the same rights as us and have the same ability to earn the same money. Dating up is a choice. Woman know what they are doing. Money is not something that easily earned, if everyone could…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:58 PM
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Woman still require protection from men. It is men’s responsibility due to our privilege of being stronger. We didn’t absolve ourselves from this responsibility Woman date men that earn more than them on average. This is a choice. Pay scales have equaled out. Men are being taken advantage of financially. The point more is if you are asking your man to do 50+% of the housework and provide for 60+% of the finances, the woman is benefiting more than you. Equality is equality. Either your cool with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:23 PM
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If you are dating a woman and she gets attacked by a group of dudes, are you just gonna run away or try and protect her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:50 PM
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I mean it would have in the past. Not now. No woman are being punished already with wondering why their body count is ever increasing but no one is sticking around. Absolute turnoff to find more woman who refuse to take accountability because they think they can do wrong. Cruel world ain’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:48 PM
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I have honestly. It’s been great. But I still find it annoying that feminists out here dating and pretending to have an equal relationship but man still pays for more and does 50/50 house chores or more. Just thought I’d call out the hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:40 PM
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I just think woman should be held accountable for choosing poorly, which includes falling for dudes who have no interest in them outside of sex. It’s not good for either gender. Woman out here getting traumatized
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:37 PM
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Respect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:28 PM
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Good for you for not take advantage of your privilege! Assuming that means you aren’t out here spread eagle for a dude who is 6 ft, making 6 figures and has charisma and a great personality!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:27 PM
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If what you want is men to pretend to like you for more than your cooch, then yall are winning!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:23 PM
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No, it’s because woman have no idea how much of losers they themselves are. But because men who are superior to you on every level are willing to sleep with yall, it gives you the false illusion that you qualify for them. Privileges are normally associated with responsibility. Y’all managed to absolve them and it is causing mass delusion and realistic candidates are being disqualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:21 PM
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Because yall are extremely delusional about how much you offer to a relationship and what you can relatively get in terms of commitment. Yall need some self sort of regulation or you think you’re a top tier woman. Men are more realistic with what they have to offer and would be great candidates for a lot woman who is at a similar level. Most privileges in society have never gone unchecked like this. Usually there is responsibility associated with it. Like men had the privilege of earning the mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:10 PM
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Some woman do, yes! But woman have more freedom to aim upward and see what they can land. If nothing sticks, woman will start being more realistic, especially if they want children. You didn’t have this privilege of eliminating childbirth risks in the last so you didn’t have this luxury of testing out the field. Just saying the responsibility that came with the privilege of being the selectors of sex is gone and yall can take full advantage without really any consequences. But a lot of men are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:59 PM
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But you don’t have to! You have iuds, birth control, condoms, after pill, abortion (in some states now but was federally legal for like 80 years). You’re making my point. Not every man needs to stick around because you can prevent childbirth. You couldn’t say this in the past . So you were forced to sleep with men who actually would prioritize you over other woman. Now woman can choose men who will not prioritize them over other woman and the consequences are almost zero
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:38 PM
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Well then it’s more fair if they do, particularly if the man makes more and spends more, which is often the case. 75% of young married men out earn or make equal amount as woman (19% are equal). Woman date horizontally or up financially but often up. But I still don’t believe woman contribute equally financially as it’s men’s gender role to pay for more shit, which you probably just don’t account for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:31 PM
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Now that yall don’t have the consequences of childbirth, you can go after men that you are “interested in” without considering if they will stick around. So now woman take bigger risks to test hypergamy to its limits
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:23 PM
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I mean if you are out with your boyfriends and some guys hurts you, do you think he would try and protect you? If not, would you still date him? Woman make “provider” money but don’t share an equal amount as the man in most cases. If woman are doing child care, then they are making no money and literally have to or the guy will leave you since it’s such a bad deal for him
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:21 PM
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It’s the “pretty much” part that I’m talking about. It’s probably not 50/50 and he still pays more. But you don’t care to look into it because you are the beneficiary. I’m not saying they share “so much” just a disproportionate amount
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:17 PM
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Same shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:15 PM
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*most woman. You can also say 75% of men earn the same or more (vast majority). Woman do date equally financially, but usually means the man compensates in other ways
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:15 PM
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Since woman date up financially more often than not. Men have to share more of their money (resources). This goes for relationships and dating alike. I’ve seen this firsthand many times over. Hypergamy is still a trend and you are the exception not the rule. I am saying that it’s not fair for woman to primarily date higher earners, ask them to share more of their resources, while they still demand we also pick up the slack doing at least half of the house chores. Woman are benefiting more than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:07 PM
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I mean the stats are skewed because the top 1% of earners are men. If you exclude them, we are in the same boat accounting for all factors like position, tenure, time off, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:04 PM
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No but men are still disproportionately sharing their resources with them (traditional male gender role) woman aren’t doing an equivalent amount of housework ( traditional female gender role). I never argued they we are still doing that shit I laid out in the second paragraph. I was just laying out the idea that privileges come with responsibility and disadvantages. Plus men still do most of the hard labor jobs and are the ones doing in war. So not sure what yall take issue with
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:01 PM
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I mean I’m not going write a fucking a book about it. These are some very strong trends throughout history. Sorry if I didn’t give the exact details for each era of history. Do you think that men didn’t fight and die in a lot of wars/battles? Do you think they didn’t work dangerous jobs? What exactly are you countering?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:53 PM
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Wtf do you think men were doing pre industrial revolution and in the midieval times and quite frankly for most of human history? Is your brain only able to comprehend that last 100 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:50 PM
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That’s cute that you guys don’t know a lick about history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:46 PM
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No im saying they disproportionately benefit from relationships and dating because they have the same “earning” privilege as men but still expect men to pay more and do equal house chores. Also, that woman are more so than ever before sleeping with dudes who they don’t qualify for
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:44 PM
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Talking about various men “using” woman for sex. Woman likely find them to be charming in some other way than physical looks. Hence my last comment. If they are being “used” for sex. That means they disqualified for a relationship. They still dated up because that must mean they have better options. This also just some bs you made up but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:42 PM
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Woman. I mean what were they fighting for with the equal pay act?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:38 PM
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Yes, woman date up in many capacities. There are various “masculine” qualities that make men attractive, not just looks. Woman probably care less about looks than men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:37 PM
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No just equal amount as men. But they achieved it yet still expect men to make more and pay more
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:35 PM
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All woman are like this, except very few who date up in other ways like physical looks or great sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:31 PM
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Because you had to choose a partner who was actually going to commit to you. The main complaint I’ve heard from woman in modern dating is that guys switch up on them after sex or the guy doesn’t want to commit. That’s means woman are going out of their league for the part
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:30 PM
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I suppose I’m thinking of more progressive relationships. In that case, that’s more traditional and still a bad deal for men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:27 PM
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Because she still demands their partners to be masculine and fulfill his duty by earning more and disproportionately sharing their resources
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:26 PM
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If by “decide what they want” means sleep with men who don’t want to commit to me. Then you got it. Woman also wanted to husbands in the past, they just had more risk of childbirth so they settled for guys that aren’t out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:22 PM
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That’s not true. But you’ve missed an important point, men still largely out earn their female counterparts? Do woman really go 50/50 on all spending? I doubt that. Most woman expect men to contribute to 50% house chores. If not, then they found themselves a more traditional woman and then it’s not such a bad deal for men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:20 PM
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Leisure time certainly has a significant impact on day to day quality of life stuff. Not denying that. Nobody is forcing woman to date men who earn more than them. It’s convenient to imply money is not as important as leisure time when it benefits you and the vast majority of woman. I think it’s unfair for woman to only date men who earn more but expect to split everything else 50/50, or in your case 60/40 where your partner is responsible for 60% of house chores seemingly when they are dispropo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:38 PM
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Fair enough. If it works, it works. At least you are striving for a more balanced relationship, which I can respect. Although, the equal leisure time does seem like a convenient request when you are making less money and working more hours because that strictly benefits you and not him. Not trying to be snarky, just playing devils advocate I suppose. Your relationship dynamics is much healthier than your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:33 PM
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I don’t need moral ground to call woman selfish. Tell me how are woman unselfish when child bearing has been removed from their lives? At least men still provide and protect you when there are no children involved. You just act selfishly and chase dopamine with no obligation to anyone or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:59 PM
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I mean, the only meaning to life as we know it is to survive. Everything else is fluff. A lot of our instincts exist to help us survive and reproduce, on an individual level and on a species level. We are biologically rewarded for reproducing. It’s a tremendous sacrifice but it provides a greater sense of fulfillment in life. Not by choice but it’s in our nature. But when I say sacrifice, I am strictly talking about the bodily and mental sacrifice of pregnancy and taking care of a child. You sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:36 PM
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Spending 50/50 on housing costs makes this seem more fair. Although, I think you are definitely benefiting a bit more, especially if house chores means he is cooking and doing dishes, as that requires more effort than laundry or cleaning (depending how frequently it’s cleaned). I think some things that aren’t accounted for is that A) you chose to be with a man who makes more than you. This likely means he spent more time/energy to earn that. This is not something you can say that you just coinci…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:39 PM
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I see! Seems healthy I suppose. But my intuition is telling me this means he pays for the majority, which is pretty typical. I could be wrong though. I think finances are an equally important part of the equation though. Like if we look back at traditional male and female gender roles, men were financial providers and woman were doing house chores. So now that woman are making the same amount as men for the most part, although woman typically date up in this department, woman no longer want this…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:58 PM
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Does the 60/40 rule also apply to finances?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:25 PM
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Yup, I figured. Without the responsibility of child bearing, woman only know how to act in favor of themselves. Y’all don’t even take responsibility for privileges you did have historically, like being the gate keepers of sex. Out here opening your legs to dudes and crying for abortion because you want to act on your impulses and maximize your pleasure in life without bearing any of the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:27 PM
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I mean sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater good of humanity. Having children is one of those sacrifices. Not every woman needs to but enough do or we will go extinct. But my other point is now that woman have gained the privilege to earn “provider” money, yall have no instinctual obligation to share it with anyone but yourselves. We as men do, and yall take advantage of that by making us pay for shit when yall make the same money. It makes no fucking sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:11 PM
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What the hell are you even taking about? These are false equivalencies. I don’t even know how this is connected to the last point. Even in your own life, haven’t you noticed that men are more generous with their money? Have you noticed that none of these men want you to birth their child? Y’all want all these privileges and none of the responsibility. I am in favor of abortion so you’re arguing with the wrong person if that’s what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:56 PM
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Idk maybe the countless men that have shared their resources with you. Maybe instead of assuming they should pay, you pay for yourself and them? That’s what men have to do most the time. But let me guess, you only want gender roles to exist if it benefits you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:46 PM
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This is just self entitlement. Always thinking about yourself and how you benefit from every situation. Men had the “privilege” of being the provider but we understood that it came with responsibility and that is not act selfishly and share our resources. Woman demanding this privilege while not understanding the responsibility that comes with it is part of the whole dating dilemma. Woman make the same money as dudes but don’t share their resources with anyone but themselves (assuming you refuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:38 PM
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Childbirth is not pleasant. But a 9 month sacrifice of hormonal changes, labor pains, and a few hours excruciating pain to birth the child is a small sacrifice in the grand scheme of things. We quite literally need woman to do this our species will go extinct. The freedom to work is just an illusion. Either you work or you rely on someone else to work. While the word “slavery” has a dark history and negative undertones, wage slavery is quite real and being a corporate worker is pretty dehumanizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:06 PM
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I mean you can take a snapshot of history any point pre Industrial Revolution and working conditions were horrendous. In that context, it’s hard to argue that being a stay at home mom is a “nightmare” unless you are a masochist. The idea of “financial freedom”, traveling around the world and pursuing any hobby you can imagine is a very new phenomena. Even with advent of air conditioned offices and low labor jobs, Idk why woman find being a corporate slave and climbing a this corporate latter so …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:35 PM
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Would you rather the alternative? Assuming we rewind history a couple hundred years? I think I know the answer. Would be nice to choose my gender role too. But unless I want to be alone, I’ll have to still be traditionally masculine. It’s a lose lose for us. Date a feminine woman? Now we have to be the sole providers of a family in a tough economy. Want to date a masculine woman? Now we need to be more masculine than them to even qualify and now share the responsibility for all the feminine duti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:45 PM
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Would you rather the alternative? Assuming we rewind history a couple hundred years? I think I know the answer. Would be nice to choose my gender role too. But unless I want to be alone, I’ll have to still be traditionally masculine. It’s a lose lose for us. Date a feminine woman? Now we have to be the sole providers of a family in a tough economy. Want to date a masculine woman? Now we need to be more masculine than them to even qualify
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:43 PM
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Compared to back breaking hard labor, fighting wars, and being a typical disposable man who had to sacrifice his life to protect his family, I’d say it doesn’t sound so bad… it actually seems like a privilege. The vast majority of men in history were not these kings and rulers at the top of the patriarchy. They were just middle class hard working men doing dangerous jobs or fighting wars. Staying home, watching the kids, making dinner, and cleaning the house really doesn’t seem all that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:26 AM
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Masculinity and femininity are just a series of traits and behaviors that we take on to fulfill a duty for the survival of our species. Height, build, emotional and physical strength, confidence, competency, ability and willingness to acquire and share resources, courage, etc are all “masculine” traits which have historically allowed men to provide and protect for their families. Most men aren’t going to have all of these but we need to have enough of them to qualify for most woman for sex. Femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:31 PM
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Masculinity is a play too. But in order for us to have sex, yall still require us to play the role. Femininity isn’t needed for sex but it is for a relationship, which is why yall have such a hard time with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:05 PM
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Hard disagree. Your chances of being the best out of hundreds of men are unlikely. She won’t even be honest with you if you were the best so you’ll never know for real. But this is the type of delusional confidence that will get you laid to begin with so maybe you aren’t so bad after all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:46 PM
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Yes! I don’t want this pressure to have to be funny, charismatic, etc etc. I just want to feel like I’m enough as I am but I’ve only been shown that I need to be better than that. Winning over woman with your personality is the final battle in dating and I’m losing that battle more often than not. But because it’s such a huge waste of time and resources to date, especially as a man who has to pay for everything, I feel like i just need to optimize my strategy by going after woman that are inferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:50 PM
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Idk, you tell me. What I think hurts me is just not being a traditionally masculine man. Like being so self assured in everything I say and showing that I’m a very competent person. But the facts are there. I am not good enough for the vast majority of woman who are willing to give me a chance. I am not the only man who feels that way. I suppose I’m lucky that I can get dates but it’s doesn’t feel great that it leads to the same dead end many other men experience, dates or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:42 PM
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Physical looks (height, face, build, etc), Career, and Humor ( I’m a bit quirky though ). But nonetheless, I have my imperfections and those feel magnified when I am on dates. Unlike the female dating experience, where we don’t expect you be anything besides a pleasant person to talk to ( not rude or annoying) and just look like the person that we think we’re going on a date with. I just think yall build us up so much in your heads and then end up utterly disappointed somehow. But yall do that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:35 PM
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That I still can’t live up to the expectations that woman have set for men. I generally get rejected for second dates. If I just go there, have decent convos and be myself, It’s just not enough. There’s an enormous amount of pressure to perform at a certain level or the girl is already thinking about the next dude. I don’t want to get into my personal life but she lied about some stuff and it was a deal breaker. So I cut it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:16 PM
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Yes! I’ve been on dates with many attractive woman. I found my last girlfriend because she came up to me at a bar and hit on me. That’s the gender equality I’m looking for!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:09 PM
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I would say not. I’ve been hit on a lot at bars and it fairly easy for me to go on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:04 PM
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Gender roles are not equal. When did it become a choice for a man to be “masculine” and fill that role? Woman have that choice of being feminine. They don’t even have a fucking gender role anymore. You and many other woman see arguments like this and assume we’re just some losers who sit in a basement and play games all days. I’m above average in every category that woman care about. I don’t play video games. I’m an adult man who has my shit together. But when I go on dates, I have only had succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:59 PM
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Finances is one aspect, but the hypergamy trend is still there. Sure a woman may date someone who’s financially on the same level, but the man must compensate for it in other areas. A lot of woman are expecting men to be making 6 figures, be 6 feet and above, be generally good looking to most woman, and be socially and intellectually competent. You’re talking about less than 5% of the population. Woman want rarity. You can see these woman walking around with there 6’4” boyfriends like it’s a sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:50 PM
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Sure woman may find a man that is “equal” but I never disputed that woman are willing to date “equal” partners. But statistics show that woman are still largely hypergamous according studies of young married couples. I can’t remember the exact numbers but dating preferences haven’t changed all too much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:07 PM
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This whole argument blames men for modern dating. We are blamed for everything in society. Men are becoming disillusioned to this idea. Any man who struggles to date (the vast majority) can clearly see the power imbalance very skewed towards woman. There is absolutely no equality here. Most men would be happy with equal rights, equal pay, and equal opportunities for woman. But we’ve learned through our dating experiences that woman’s empowerment has directly resulted in most of us being disquali…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:52 PM
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But aren’t you just assuming that these men were wanting to manipulate you? Or did you actually date an older man who manipulated you? Saying “age is just a number” is not necessarily manipulation, although I can see why it appears that way. Some may argue that love has no limits, assuming it’s legal. I think 40 year old men aren’t really that much different than their 30 year old selves. Men don’t become these expert manipulators just because they’ve aged 10 years. But I think everyone should e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:47 AM
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I’ve noticed woman who are older than the younger woman in the relationship usually are the ones critical of this. Woman are aware of their sexual appeal declining as they age, hence why it’s offensive to ask a woman’s age. They don’t like this fact so they project their insecurity onto these relationships. But there is probably concern as well with how much fear mongering there is around men taking advantage of woman, which definitely happens but just not to the extend woman think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:38 AM
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The classic all lonely men are toxic idea. Woman can’t directly “sense” a lonely man. But you’d have to be quite the actor to be a lonely man and somehow manage to show up to date and be a version of yourself that meets the prerequisite level of confidence, energy, and charming personality traits required to earn their attraction. It’s a perpetual cycle that feeds into itself. Us men are not allowed to be lonely because it only begets us more loneliness. We must first have a respectable social c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:13 AM
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Yall act like you aren’t out here hooking up just as often as men are. If y’all don’t desire men so much, why are so concerned about abortion? If sex isn’t tempting to y’all, why not just live sex free and then there is no worries about pregnancies. Funny thing is it’s very unimpressive when yall hookup and pretty impressive when a guy does, mostly because y’all are lazy and put in zero effort and expect the guy to do everything. But if you didn’t want it, you wouldn’t be getting caked up and we…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:47 PM
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Not so much specifically about controlling money but more so just about desiring partners with traits that are conducive to acquiring resources. Victorian era is a small snapshot in history that was structurally reflective of human history. It wasn’t until relatively recently that we had plentiful jobs which didn’t require strength and hard labor. If the infrastructure that was built to support this ever collapses, we will go right back to where we started
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:33 PM
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It’s been going on for most of human history, way before Victorian times. Woman always selected for men who had perceived traits that allow them to acquire more resources. It’s rooted in woman’s nature now and who they “want” to date is largely dictated by these instinctual attractions rooted in hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:15 PM
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Oh yeah, Europe is more balanced from my understanding. I am talking about the US. Perhaps, woman there have had an easier time adjusting their dating preferences than in the US. The male loneliness epidemic disproportionately is a problem for American men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:52 PM
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I have a hard time believing this is even close to equal. Just from my experience living life, men tend to date down financially at much higher rate than woman do. Education is sort of a wash because almost everyone is educated these days. But the men who aren’t educated typically don’t end up with a woman who is but the inverse is not true. The cases where I’ve seen a man on the same or lower financial level, the man is compensating by being more conventionally attractive than them or has other…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:40 PM
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You could argue that’s it’s strictly because of hypergamy. With woman working similar jobs as the majority of men these days, they aren’t attracted to as many men as a result. They are now only qualifying a much smaller pool of men that are clearly in a higher social status than them or at the very least equal. Some exceptions exist like woman dating up in terms of physical looks instead of social status but you’d have a hard time finding a woman clearly dating down with all things considered. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:31 PM
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Right, it certainly seems plausible. Let’s assume hypergamy is real. That would mean woman liked more men on average in the past pre feminism/equal rights, since men had more resources than them on average. Let’s also assume we are largely monogamous creatures, which history suggests. This means woman being attracted to more men would actually be good for our species, causing a higher birth rate. Perhaps, men structured society in such a way to be conducive to our population growth and by extens…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:45 PM
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All power to you! I find it interesting that no one has a defense against hypergamy. I’ve found that most woman on here including yourself just blatantly admit they are. I was hoping someone would convince me that it’s not true tbh but sounds like it’s just something men need to accept. It does make a lot of sense though. It explains why feminism has created such an imbalance in dating preferences. Woman used to be attracted to more men because men had more resources than woman, thanks to the “p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:54 PM
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Like that ever works out lol. At best it will be 50/50 unless she puts up zero fight. Idk what about hypergamy is related to men not taking responsibility. Are we supposed to take responsibility because you chose to date way above your league? Is it perhaps because there are laws in place that benefit you greatly if you sleep with a high earner? I don’t think you are get to demand child support because you are the one with privilege when it comes to sex. Woman are having more sex than men, woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:22 PM
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I would argue that would be of a result of financial stress or stresses from overwhelming responsibility rather than the child itself. But luckily for you, you’ll have money flooding in from child support to alleviate this burden. Meanwhile, the guy will definitely be dealing with financial stress. They will have change their lives drastically as well on half their income. Idk if you know how money works, but it’s pretty important. If I make 100k a year and owe child support, this is 50k a year …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:42 PM
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I mean there is at least a possibility of a benefit from your side; meanwhile, in this hypothetical there is ZERO benefit for the man. Really depends on circumstances which I’d choose. If I had a family nearby who was willing to help take care of the baby, and I was a decent enough human being to not resent my child every waking moment because I couldn’t abort them, I’d probably choose being the woman. Most men are being thrown into poverty once child support payments occur. having half your inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:54 PM
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I mean yeah, but raising a child, depending on who you are and what type of support system you have, could in theory provide fulfillment as well. Meanwhile, a man paying half their income for a kid they never see is the worst deal known to man. But I’ll grant you that assuming this fellow is an upstanding citizen (since woman tend to go for those guys ;) ) and he tries hard to be in the child’s life, he may be granted 50/50 custody but that does NOT mean he’s off the hook for child support. I me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:27 PM
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It’s not a little financial disadvantage. It’s not uncommon for men to have to fork up 50% of their income. For 18 years, this is a HIGE disadvantage. Plus, custody laws still favor woman over men so the likelihood of paying child support is very high. I won’t deny that pregnancy is a huge burden on woman and I am pro choice. But just saying you’re not going to get the sympathy from men that you want without acknowledging the downsides for them as well. Especially considering sex is a privilege …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:02 PM
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Woman want to be out here fucking like rabbits, but then complain they don’t want to deal with the biological consequences of sex. Oh no, what a disadvantage! Meanwhile most men are excluded from the sexual marketplace. It’s like you’re complaining about the consequence of a privilege they don’t even have to begin with. Plus, you can move to a state where it is legal if you are so concerned about it. Abortion is a concern for men too. Do you think we want to be locked into child support for 18 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:24 PM
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Lot of guys are attracted to woman in their own leagues I just think woman are hypergamous and tend to date up; thus, disqualifying men in their own league. You’re an example of hypergamy working out for you. Good for you but a lot of woman using this strategy end up disappointed. I have definitely dated down. My entire social circle made it clear to me that I was too good for my ex but I still dated her for a long time and tried very hard to make it work. Honestly, I just want things to feel mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:28 AM
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You clearly care or you wouldn’t have responded lol. Take any person and have 100 people judge them on a scale of 1-10 on all different metrics like physical attractiveness, personality, etc and you take the average of those rating and you’ll get a relatively accurate measure of what league there in. Swipes on dating apps kinda mimics this but solely based on pictures and prompts. Looks like woman only swipe on the top 10% of male profiles. Men swipe on ~50% of woman’s profiles. Doesn’t this lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:17 PM
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No one is advocating for you to date someone you’d rather be without. I’m more just saying the only way to be in a committed relationship unless you are lucky is to date within your own league instead of always dating up, because these highly desirable men will likely pick someone who is closer to their level. A committed relationship can increase your fulfillment ceiling and also decrease your fulfillment floor life. No one needs a relationship but your life could potentially be a lot better if…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:22 PM
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I agree that you should be sexually attracted to your partner. It’s just odd that woman aren’t attracted to men that are actually in the same league as them. They tend to go after guys that are desired by most other woman. Woman tend to have no clue how desirable they are because men above their league are willing to sleep with them or give them attention, causing them to think that’s who qualifies for them. Average woman tend to be the most disappointed in the dating world because guys just use…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:06 PM
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I mean, it’s pretty simple really. Would you rather be in a relationship with someone who only likes you for the physical pleasure you give him and will stop fucking you once he finds someone he deems worthy of a relationship? Or would you rather have a life companion who likes you for you are as a person, is someone who you can rely on to support you (financially, emotionally, physically), is someone to share life with in a healthy and trusting way? Life is hard and it can be made much easier w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:42 PM
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Lmao this is debate forum. Just giving my perspective as a dude who sees the harm that hypergamy is causing. Glad you know how to have a civil conversation without resorting to petty insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:08 PM
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Not saying all men are wonderful. In fact, I am calling out men who mislead woman just to get in their pants, as I think it’s doing harm to dating standards. Just saying guys will sleep with you and not commit to you if you are deemed unworthy of a relationship with them. Sounds like that’s happening to a lot of woman. Perhaps, it’s time to ask yourselves why are all these men I sleep with not wanting a relationship with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:54 PM
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I’m sure there are but I’d argue most men who don’t have dozens of options on the table at any given time would want to be in a committed relationship with someone as it makes sense practically. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to be chasing after sex exclusively considering how hard it for an average man to get laid. But he will gladly just sleep with someone that he deems unworthy of a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:43 PM
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Lmao not worthy of the guys you like obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:30 PM
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Well if you value your mental health, I’d say less anxiety is a w. I’m not arguing you should be with a man you don’t “like”. But if the only men you “like” are not willing to commit to you, that’s likely a result of being misled to believe you offer more to a relationship than you actually do. In my opinion, romantic attraction is relative to who you believe is worthy of you. Unfortunately, a lot of y’all have been misled to believe you are worthy of a lot more because dudes want to get in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:23 PM
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I mean there are tons of benefits of feeling secure in a relationship with someone. Less anxiety knowing your partner is not sleeping with other woman, someone who genuinely cares about you and will offer genuine support when needed, having the ability to start a family if desired, etc. It seems rather obvious to me why being in a committed relationship is better than being led on by a guy who just wants sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:00 PM
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Sounds like you are selecting for “good sex” over a healthy monogamous relationship so if that’s the case, I think your strategy is fine. At some point you might want to settle down and feel like you are in a secure relationship. I’d say that’s the obvious answer to “what’s in it for me?” Just saying that if you are willfully punching above your league and sleeping with dudes who don’t want to commit to you, you have no right to complain about it. This is also raising your standards to an unsust…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:44 PM
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These men are not the “same”. One is likely actually in your own league and is willing to provide a secure monogamous relationship and the other is quite frankly, just using you for sex. As long as you are cool with frequent unstable relationships that will not lead to a committed relationship, then to each their own I suppose. If I was in your shoes, I wouldn’t mind getting fucked my some baddies that wanted no relationship with me so I don’t blame you, necessarily. Unfortunately, I don’t have …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:04 PM
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How about a secure monogamous relationship? Y’all out here punching thinking you aren’t just being used by a dude who figured out how to trigger the “spark” with pretty much every woman. If sex is your prerogative (disregarding std risks) than this is fair but I’m tired of woman complaining about dating when their blatantly hypergamous and wondering why no guy wants to commit to them/only looking for sex. Also, if Chads are here, please stop giving woman the false illusion that they qualify for …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:34 PM
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To add to this, the hard part is foreplay because clits are not the easiest things to find ngl. This actually takes practice more than sex does tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:48 AM
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Sex is not some complicated transaction. Just because you had sex a few times does not make you “good”. It’s just thrusting and trying to keep a rhythm. Each woman will have a different rhythm and her rhythm will be different than the girls. I’m telling you man, you don’t need to be worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:24 AM
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Just don’t mention you are a virgin. Just like you can’t expect a woman to be honest about body count, you don’t have to be honest about yours. Woman will generally not like it from my experience, so just keep it to yourself and that should mostly make this problem go away. FYI, I’ve been in your shoes and my advice worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:19 AM
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I will concede that below average attractiveness woman will likely fall into the same boat as many average men do. So for those woman, they do NOT have easier access to sex. But assuming you are average+, you can likely have a night out, find a guy you are attracted to, and have physical intimacy with them in some capacity. If not that night then it would probably happen in the course of ten nights. This is VERY different than an average guy going out, getting endless rejections and resorting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:00 AM
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I did misunderstand that you have never participated in casual sex. I thought you had and had a terrible experience. Not trying to shame you. I think it’s noble. But ngl, this all feels like rage bait lol. You’re basically saying, I am not going to give men an ounce of sympathy for not having access to physical intimacy but I’m going to gaslight them into thinking they do by telling them can get fucked by a gender they are not attracted to. Then I’m going to pretend like I have it harder because…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 06:24 PM
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Well I’m sorry to hear that you have such a trauma inducing relationship with casual sex. I don’t know how common this is among woman but there are certainly a lot of woman engaging in casual sex willfully and seem to be enjoying it. Although, there is certainly a lot of complaints about men using them for sex and misleading them so I’m sure you are not the only one to have such a negative experience with casual sex. I think a large portion of the disagreement I’m seeing regarding physical intim…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:49 PM
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I agree no one is owed physical intimacy. I don’t see an issue with woman consensually offering their body in exchange for money. I also think legalizing prostitution would eradicate the black market of sexual exploitation of woman against their will. So I don’t see the harm in trying it as a solution. Perhaps, rape and sexual assault would decrease as well. With the rise of sex workers with only fans, I don’t see why we have to limit lonely men’s exposure to intimacy to behind a screen. This fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:22 PM
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Why do you describe consensual sex like being sexually assaulted? I’m sorry if that’s happened to you but those are different things. I’d argue that there is no such thing as un-intimate sex, it just may feel like that because the guy led you on to believe that he wanted more with you. I think when woman characterize consensual sex like this, it’s just an another attempt to villainize men. I really want the best for all people in society. I’m sure there are many lonely woman out there and have d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:10 PM
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Why do you describe consensual sex like being sexually assaulted? I’m sorry if that’s happened to you but those are different things. I’d argue that there is no such thing as un-intimate sex, it just may feel like that because the guy led you on to believe that he wanted more with you. I think when woman characterize consensual sex like this, it’s just an another attempt to villainize men. I really want the best for all people in society. I’m sure there are many lonely woman out there and have d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:08 PM
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I agree that eradicating the social stigma is a great starting point. This could alleviate some of the mental health issues that come along with lack of intimacy for men. However, I do not think this is not solely a “societal” issue, as there are plenty of studies suggesting that physical intimacy is a psychological need, and I’ve felt that myself. If our sex life is directly tied to our psychological health, why should we pretend like being devoid of it isn’t a health risk? I think it’s hard fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:28 AM
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Well… the male loneliness epidemic is disproportionally affecting young American men according to the OECD. This solution would be tailored to the US as men really need a viable alternative to the dating market place for sex. Plus, having a population full of young sex deprived men is not healthy for society for obvious reasons. American woman really just have set the bar too high for most men unfortunately. We need solutions without telling woman to lower their standards because that is quite l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:38 AM
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Speaking from experience as an outlier losing my virginity in my late 20s, it has a severely negative impact on mental health. I think intimacy is a biological need and the there is nothing more intimate than sex. That along with negative reinforcement that society provides if you’re a man and you are not having sex, it really is devastating to your self confidence. We really don’t want to live in a society of sex deprived men. This could lead to a catastrophic outcome in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:22 AM
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Ngl, if prostitution was legal, I think men would need woman a lot less than woman would need men. But sex dolls will never simulate the experience of being with a real woman so that is not an adequate solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:19 AM
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I’ve noticed this too about how men treat woman. This a huge mistake men make. Woman are putting up a fierce competition against men in academics (woman are winning), high paying careers (woman are kinda losing but have laws in place to give them the job over an equally qualified man) and yet men still act like they need to help this little “damsel in destress” idea of a woman. I think men should start looking at woman as direct competition in society. Woman are intelligent creatures who’ve had …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 07:47 AM
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Right, it is. It’s really just an unfortunate situation the majority of men are in. I’ve been rejected at east 50 times in the last couple years so I feel you. Every rejection hurts and I have deep sympathy. These rejections do not dictate your worth so don’t feel defeated. Be proud of yourself for putting yourself out there. I think men need to find a way to just be content on their own. Stop approaching woman, stop swiping, stop DMing them. This behavior just enables woman to have unrealistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:21 PM
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Being an average looking guy, you have a lot to compensate for unfortunately. Most woman aren’t going to find you attractive off the jump. High paying career is certainly helpful but your personality needs to shine through. Confidence, humor, and competence go a long way. Your dating success will largely depend on how well you can execute on these while still being genuine. It’s really not rocket science what woman are attracted to. The lower on the attraction scale you are the more these things…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:31 PM
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All people suck. I want to say a lot of the characteristics that i don’t like about men are actually what woman find generally attractive in them, like confidence and self assuredness. Woman suck because they are very insecure creatures who don’t really take accountability because they believe they can do no wrong, kinda like this post suggests. Obviously these are generalizations, but one thought I had is maybe if woman were not so attracted to “masculine” qualities, men would suck less? Perhap…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:54 PM
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Another example that woman are truly terrible at picking their partners. You do know that high libido woman exist? But you have a normal or below average libido and instead of trying to find a sexually compatible partner, you chose a guy who you have no sexual chemistry with? And you also chose a guy who isn’t “emotionally attuned” which likely just means he doesn’t support you emotionally in the way you want him too, but probably never even considered how you support him emotionally? But instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:46 PM
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This along with getting rid of dating apps would drastically improve the dating marketplace for men. It’s an artificial supply and demand issue where woman over value their worth (artificial demand), because they seemingly have so many options (artificial supply). I say artificial because there is roughly an equal amount of men and woman, so it’s not actually based on reality. Once they stop feeling they have all these options, their egos can come down to earth and choose a mate who’s on a simil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:12 PM
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