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| -1 | Enshittification of sugar dating is a sign things are bad"reasonable" is determined by what the market will tolerate, which is why Sony is facing backlash after crossing that line recently, why "Match" is struggling, and why this post is pointing out the decline of sugar dating. You are right that no one is "owed" a product if they don't pay for it, but by the same token you can't sell a product if you price out your customer base. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 10:51 PM |
| -2 | Enshittification of sugar dating is a sign things are badYou missed my point. It's not that it's exploitive. It's that it's more exploitive than the "customer base" can accept as "reasonable". The "daddies" know they're signing up to be "exploited" for money, same as the "babies" know their signing up to be exploited for sex. That said, both have an idea of how much exploitation they are fine with and consider fair, and once it's pushing past that point they take issue. It's like buying fast food. If I go to McDonalds, I know I'm paying far more than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Enshittification of sugar dating is a sign things are badBecause there's a limit to the level of "exploitation" that people will accept as fair enough. Your reasoning can be applied to any of the "late stage capitalism" corporate bs too. When a company with a product you likes becomes increasingly exploitive, it's normal to be resentful. Your land lord sees you as dollar signs, but I bet you'd still be upset if they just kept raising rent until they priced you out entirely simply because they had a market advantage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 10:03 PM |
| 2 | How do you define a female friend?I fully agree. I just hope more people can recognize that different people hold different "definitions", and that the definitions used by all the people involved in a situation are relevant, not just their own. It's a big enough step for people to realize that not everyone thinks the same way they do about things, and that their perspective isn't the default or objectively correct one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/26 06:23 AM |
| 9 | How do you define a female friend?Perhaps, but most complaints about the "friendzone", from both genders, tend to be due to mismatched expectations of how much investment is appropriate for a "friend" and how much is for someone you want to be "more than friends" with. Guys tend to invest more in the hopes of moving to more than friends, and then get frustrated when women treat that level of investment as expected and "normal" for a friendship. Then if the guy accepts that the relationship is just "friends", and reduces his inve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 08:24 PM |
| 11 | How do you define a female friend?To be fair, it seems everyone has different definitions of "friends" and how much investment and intimacy is "friend level". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 08:06 PM |
| – | Why specifically would you dislike the blackpill going mainstream? It's getting more popular.Rejected men historically would go to war and kill each other in mass for resources. The survivors would then have the status and resources to be selected, and the competition would have been thinned out. Modern warfare and globalism doesn't allow for this historical solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 11:59 PM |
| – | Why specifically would you dislike the blackpill going mainstream? It's getting more popular.That's kinda the point of the black pill. There is no (viable) macro solution, so individual solutions are the best they can get. If you want an actual answer about a macro solution that would fix many of the problems, an event resulting in the mass death of much of the male population would increase male scarcity, and in turn increase the survivors relative value and concentrate resources to a prosperous level. Historically, this happened naturally with plagues and wars, but globalism, nuclear … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 11:55 PM |
| 3 | “Pair bonding™️” feels like a self-serving male fantasy about how men wished women attached to menadditionally, it often carries the implication of cuckolding. A woman finding someone physically attractive (good genetics) to have unprotected sex with, then finding a more stable and committed guy to fund her and the "alpha's" kid. This is also one of the main drives for the "hate" towards single mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/26 04:18 AM |
| 2 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?I'd argue that sexuality is part of utility for humans, which is part of why virginity gets judged as a social failing past a certain point in life. If a guy isn't competent sexually, or lacks sexual utility, that heavily decreases his worth to potential sexual/reproductive partners, and in turn that drops his value to society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/26 03:36 AM |
| 16 | Can you explain what emasculation feels like? Or is?Men are valued for utility and competency. Emasculation is the denial of a man's utility and competency, and thus the denial of that man's value. Rather than just being humiliated, it's the declaration that you are worthless to society, your peers, your family, and to yourself. Society tends to hold the position that worthless men should go quietly die out of sight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/26 08:34 PM |
| 12 | The "patriarchy" didn't teach men to hide their feelings. Life did.Crying indicates vulnerability, which brings two types of responses, those being help and predators. People who know help won't come for them refuse to cry so they don't attract predators. People who are used to being supported and protected cry because they trust that help with arrive before the predators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Men who are successful, high earners, or providers— I have a debatable questionThe more leverage you have, the more acceptable people find your actions. The super rich and powerful guy might follow his interest to have three girlfriends at once, and those girlfriends might decide to accept that because they are attracted to him and his wealth and status, and know that if they weren't willing to accept that arraignment there are other women who would. Likewise, he would know that not every woman would be willing to accept that, but he has enough leverage to have enough opti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/26 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Redpill tactics are idiotic and have the opposite of the intended affect for high quality women"Good women are rare and hard to find, and you probably aren't going to get the chance to date one. So here's how to make the best of a bad situation and get the best results from bad women if you still want to get laid." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?There have been studies that show that the fewer options presented to people, the more content they are with what they receive, while the more options presented, the more regret and second guessing they have no matter which choice they make. Our modern world and technology has connected us all to such a degree that, in theory, nearly the entire population of the world is available as options, so it's little wonder that people are far less content no matter who they choose. Unfortunately, unless … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Is working for a living more traumatizing than being sexually assaulted?Rather than generic sexual assault, I'd say it's closer to prostitution, with all the coercion and abuse that can come with that. Some call that rape, even though there is compensation and arguably consent involved. In turn, since marriage is historically a contract, it could be likened to buying out a prostitute, in which case spousal rape could be argued as just a "john" taking what he paid for. I'd like to state that I do not condone these views and simply wanted to explain the thought proces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Sometimes it works out great, a true "best case scenario". Other times it results in tragedy because people change and often want whatever they don't have. If she has a stable and loving husband, there's a non-negligible chance that she starts valuing "diverse experiences" and excitement instead. It's not every case, but it's enough that guys have to consider the risk. Like the saying, "Women pick men and hope they will change, while men pick women and hope they'll stay the same. In the end, bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/26 02:23 AM |
| 2 | Why is it so hard to believe some people who genuinely value depth, loyalty, etc?Two details that have important implications. Values change over time and value is relative. Someone might value loyalty enough to start dating, but value excitement enough to leave. Likewise, a "moral" guy might face rejection throughout his youth because that wasn't valued, and finding that women who are the same or similar to the ones who rejected him are coming back now that circumstances and experience has changed their values is of little comfort and doesn't erase the harm that earlier rej… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/26 11:06 PM |
| 0 | My husband says most men only want one thing. Is he right?People act according to their self interest. Guys wanting to date, marry, or fuck isn't surprising or negative. Being reduced to "only" having sex as a motivation is the negative stereotype that's pushed back on. This is a "walking and chewing gum" type of thing. People are complex with multiple, often competing interests. To pretend people don't have their own benefits in mind is naive, but to claim that's the full extent of their considerations is reductionist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/26 05:36 PM |
| 1 | My husband says most men only want one thing. Is he right?It's about creating opportunity. Rather than say most men only want one thing, you could say that most men wouldn't turn it down if given the opportunity. If a guy is going out of his way to engage with an attractive woman, then there is a good chance that he is, along side other considerations like being nice to others or aiding fellow humans, observing to see if an opportunity exists. If he thinks that the opportunity might exist in the future, he may continue to engage to make sure he's able … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/26 10:16 PM |
| – | Does Saying “Women Don’t Need Men Anymore” Imply That Men Were Mainly Valued for Providing Resources?It's because the flaw of "beta buxx" is comparison to "alpha fucks". Paying for something of value is fine, but paying for something that is given for free to others makes you a sucker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 08:46 PM |
| 1 | How do we create a world where everyone doesn’t hate each otherBring back freedom of association. Not everyone is compatible, not everyone will like eachother, but by forcing people to interact regardless you only breed resentment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/26 01:00 PM |
| -2 | Love and sex is so tied to individuals that you cannot debate it within a societal contextThe violence is the male's responsibility and the cause of that violence is the responsibility of society, including women. These are not mutually exclusive. It's the same idea as how poverty drives crime. The criminal is responsible for the crime they commit, but society bears responsibility for creating situations that result in that level of desperation. This is more important when looking from a solution oriented lens rather than a moral lens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:56 PM |
| 0 | Love and sex is so tied to individuals that you cannot debate it within a societal contextAcknowledging cause and effect is not a moral statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/26 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Leaving a woman is not trying to control a womanAlternatively, almost everything about how we interact with eachother and the world is used to influence eachother towards the outcomes we prefer. Almost everything is "controlling" or "manipulation" on a technical level, but that doesn't make it inherently wrong, malicious, or evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/26 04:53 AM |
| – | How important is sex?Relationships don't simply happen for no reason. A relationship is based on fulfilling needs, and which needs are fulfilled determines the nature of the relationship. Companionship, intimacy, emotional support, and sex are all "needs" that marriage and dating are advertised as fulfilling, so if one of those is missing it's seen as a incomplete relationship at best, and often a violation of the social contract. Have as much or as little sex as you want with whoever you want, but then be honest ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/26 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Could've easily just said sexismJust because they have a reason for their opinion doesn't mean I need to simply take the results of their opinion. It's a conflict of interests. They see benefit to hating men, and I see benefits to pushing back and discouraging the hatred of men. I simply don't believe that ideas should be dismissed out of hand due to the label of "hatred". | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/05/26 04:56 AM |
| -6 | Could've easily just said sexismhatred is an opinion | /r/EverydayMisandry | 18/05/26 02:24 AM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.When someone says "all black people" it's racist, when they say "all jews" it's antisemitic, when they say "all women" it's sexist, but when someone says "all men" it's something for men to go to therapy to learn to ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 06:32 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.Hers isn't the only fault seen, but she seems plenty aware of the other guy's fault already and also seems to be trying to ignore her own fault in the situation by blaming "all men". In most situations, everyone who's involved impacted the result in some way, and carries responsibility for their choices and how those choices led to the result. Sometimes their isn't a perfect choice, so you need to be aware of the potential cost of each choice and accept that you are choosing one of them and bare… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 05:14 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.I said "between him and the woman, she was the only one who had a say in her bad experience." "him" in that sentence, refers to the uninvolved man who is finding himself blamed simply for sharing the same gender as the guy who hurt her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:53 PM |
| – | women hate “choose better” because they dont like the responsibility of when their choices go bad. And it only applies to them.I almost agree with you, because you're right that one of the three common use cases is to tell someone to "shut up". Typically, it's used that way when a woman is generalizing and blaming "all" men for the behaviors of them men she choose. A guy caught in the crossfire of her frustration knows that he's not the responsible party, but feels blamed anyway, so he points out that between him and the woman, she was the only one who had a say in her bad experience. So she needs to "choose better" ins… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/26 04:46 PM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?Correct. I don't approve of either side sleeping around, and encourage contentment and stability over "adventure" and the sexual equivalent of the "zoomies" that some people seem to get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 06:10 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?There is always "better" and the more "better" you experience, the higher your standard becomes and the harder it is to be content with what you have. Especially since "better" is relative to your experiences, so "good" or even "great" can become "worse" in your eyes if you've experienced even one instance that was "better". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 05:49 AM |
| – | Red pill men: does a woman's virginity/sexual past matter to you and if so why?"comparison is the thief of joy" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/26 05:41 AM |
| 2 | What is your vetting advice for women?Spend significant time together talking, interacting, and getting to know his values and beliefs. Jumping to fast from one relationship to another is on of the most common errors I see women make in dating. Find out if you like him as a person, not just as a body, and make sure your values are aligned. As part of that, don't worry about missing opportunities because you took your time or about having to turn down an option that you liked but that has signs that the relationship wouldn't work lon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/26 03:21 AM |
| – | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.so does he apparently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 03:54 AM |
| 7 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.Women appeal to men to enforce their will, and those men do it largely because doing otherwise would tank their chances at getting laid. At any given time there is almost always some guy willing to employ violence or authority against another man in the hopes of impressing or pleasing a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 03:54 AM |
| 7 | Women, especially women aware of their privilege, have made it abundantly clear that men have no reason to harbor even basic goodwill towards them or regard them as potential allies in any endeavor.The issue is the other men who let their dicks run their lives, who are the power the women weaponize against other men. My self control doesn't prevent whiteknight authoritarians from being a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 03:37 AM |
| – | It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness.The difference is between knowing subconsciously and actually acknowledging it and its implications. Even if a bluepill "knows" that physical attractiveness matters, they will deny and downplay the effect, because the alternative is to recognize that some people are ugly and will have a far harder time finding love through no fault of their own. This goes against "fairness", the "just world" fallacy, and their own discrimination caused by the "horns effect". Additionally, it means they might hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:39 AM |
| – | It’s willful ignorance on men’s part to think women never cared about physical attractiveness.That's why it's called blue pill. They choose to stay asleep and ignorant rather than face a reality that is a bit messier and less "feel good". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:29 AM |
| – | It saddens me that a big percentage of men deny the fact that women get sexually harassed almost dailyI'd disagree, simply due to having worked customer facing jobs and seeing how "cute young females" get treated by the customer base. I doubt it's every woman all the time, but I know that there are plenty of women who are targeted on a near daily basis. Specifically this is noticeable for the underaged girls in "grownup" roles, like working a job or caring for a young sibling, which leads me to think this may be an experience that is common to most women, but obviously not to the same degree thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:16 AM |
| 5 | Red-pill men, is a husband who beat his wife because she cheated on him less guilty?I see three core value questions in this situation, though this may be the messiest situation to apply them to. First is the question of harm. Is cheating an action deserving of punishment? How much harm does cheating do, and how much punishment is justified if any? The second is the question of vigilantism. A large aspect of the social contract of " civilized society" is the idea of outsourcing "justice" and "violence" to someone who has authority legitimized by faith in the system. When that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Do relationships where one person has a best friend of their partner's gender work?I would argue that many times the "fun" of those friendships is in the ambiguous boundaries and plausible deniability, so an attempt at establishing boundaries is seen as ruining the fun and fought against using any words needed, mainly "insecure" and "controlling". The only mixed gender "best friends" relationship I've ever seen work healthily was one in which the friendship was started as young children and they see eachother as siblings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 09:45 AM |
| 3 | Do relationships where one person has a best friend of their partner's gender work?Very little can overcome a difference in time spent together. If your partner spends the majority of their time with someone else specific, then it's not shocking when they are closer and more intimate with that person than they are with you. This is why "work wives" and workplace cheating are so common and problematic, and a large part of why long distance relationships struggle so much. If your partner is spending, or trying to spend, more time investing in that "best friend" than they are the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 06:51 AM |
| 5 | I have a better metaphor to replace the "fish/fisherman" rhetoric.the potential relationship the man is offering is the bread. The man is the store management who's trying to market that bread (relationship) to his customers (women). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/26 12:12 AM |
| 1 | A woman who’s with an obviously terrible man is also a terrible person.I'm actually arguing for less sympathy, just in a way that is potentially less abrasive. I'm a bit Darwinian about it, in that I believe many of them are "victims" of themselves, and them not being able to make good choices doesn't make them virtuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/26 12:07 AM |
| 2 | A woman who’s with an obviously terrible man is also a terrible person.Conversations like this is why I prefer the term "maladaptive" over "bad person". "Bad" carries moral implications and a sense of fault, while "maladaptive" indicates that someone is faulty. The trauma might explain poor decisions, but that doesn't make the decision less faulty. I'd say that, while some women are evil and indulge in malice vicariously through their evil partner, in most cases the woman isn't a morally terrible person, and instead is terrible at being a well functional person. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 10:59 PM |
| 7 | Why do women care about men slut-shaming them?If you want a logical answer for why female promiscuity is shamed, it's because it's bad for societies at a macro level, since nuclear families produce better outcomes on average when raising children and are less dependent on the government to support those children. If you want to know why male promiscuity isn't shamed and is lauded instead, it's because women consenting to sex provides validation of a mans worth, so a many who can get a multitude of women to consent is "reviewed" as being wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/26 10:08 AM |
| 2 | Negging and shit-testing are the same thing."shit testing" gets used for two different, but similar and linked, behaviors. The first is creating artificial drama to provoke a reaction from the other person and test how they respond. The second is deliberately violating boundaries to see if the other person is willing and able to defend those boundaries. The reason the term ended up with gendered connotations is that, while both men and women test eachother's boundaries and willingness to defend them, men are less likely to create artifici… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/26 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself"The reason I mentioned both value and attraction separately is because the first guy was either perceived as attractive enough to ignore the risks or as valuable enough to worth the risk. Maybe her risk assessment has changed, but that doesn't change the fact that she sees the new guy as either not attractive enough to ignore risks or not valuable enough to be worth those risks. There are no "do over" buttons in life, so sometimes the "perfect" result is something you only get one shot at and ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 12:13 PM |
| 3 | Immature male sexuality: "Affirm my value by devaluing yourself"Point one is misstated. If you make a guy wait for sex, when you gave it quickly to other men, it shows that you find him either less attractive or less valuable than the previous guy. Consistent standards are more respected. Point three is correct, but with the caveat that most "value" statements need. Value is subjective, and in this case the lower your body count the higher your value to a man who is looking for a stable or long term relationship. Point two is the answer to complaints about p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/26 05:13 AM |
| 4 | Men on here are contradictoryOne of the main differences is that the only one of those standards that are out of a woman's control is her age, and she was still youthful at some point and had the opportunity to make use of that youth. Comparatively, the standards women hold for men tend to include some things that are within control, but also heavily focus on biological features that are not controllable, and what's left tend to be things that are mutually exclusive in almost all cases. Men's aggregate standards are theoret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 04:47 AM |
| 8 | [Q4W] Do women recognize the “selection pressure” men feel in dating, and how it relates to male loneliness?Value is subjective and usually determined by scarcity. Men are "worthless" because that impregnation could be done by a fraction of the male population, and the rest are then considered surplus. To a degree, this is the mechanism behind the 80/20 rule, in that the majority of women are content trying to get everything they want or need from men from the top fraction of the population, and treat the rest as unwanted surplus. Historically, enforced monogamy was the solution, which prevented large… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 05:15 AM |
| 33 | No woman who likes you is gonna make you wait or play “hard to get”This is the unfortunate answer. Many men go a long time before experiencing what it's like to be wanted, and some just don't get the experience. Without experiencing it at least once, they lack a point of reference and solve their lack of certainty by defaulting to the optimistic answer of "maybe she likes me, I need more feedback to know for sure" when the answer being "no" would be clear to those with a point of reference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/26 03:19 AM |
| 2 | "Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't youYeah, I noticed the trouble you were having. I got the notification about your comment, and could read a chunk of it in the notification, but when I clicked on it reddit said it was removed. Everyone being equal is the most damaging lie in history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/26 11:18 PM |
| 1 | "Hot guys be assholes to women!" Well that ain't youThankyou for introducing me to Arthur Schopenhauer. I've long held that the key to "happiness" was in finding an equilibrium where you can be content, rather than chasing the highs of joy or constant progress in life. The issue is with finding a woman who holds similar views, as most of them seem absolutely repulsed by a lack of ambition or desire for a modest and stable life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/26 08:40 AM |
| – | Men spend a lot of time trying to humble women, and then claim women are overvaluedWomen gas eachother up constantly due to ingroup bias, the majority of men gas up women due to attraction and wanting to appear as an ally to women, and even government and and corporations gas up women as a pendulum response to historic discrimination. This isn't even including the effects of social media and entertainment media, both of which praise women to high heaven. In response, some men try to counteract what appears to be the entire world praising women, by reminding them of the "less f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/26 09:21 PM |
| – | What if Dating had a "Standard Protocol"? (An end to the "Vibe" guessing games)Ambiguity and plausible deniability are the keys to avoiding accountability or judgement for your decisions. For this reason, an unambiguous standard would be wildly unpopular with certain demographics, and even of those outside that demographic, many would still prefer the option of plausible deniability to be on the table. On the other hand this would be wildly popular with autistic people and many men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 03:29 AM |
| 6 | What's the difference between the red pill and misogyny?by "impolite" knowledge, I mean things that are considered rude or hateful to acknowledge, even if they are true. Things that are usually covered by "polite lies". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 09:55 AM |
| 10 | What's the difference between the red pill and misogyny?The "red pill" is just a catalog of "impolite" knowledge, with some advice on how to use that information pragmatically for whatever purpose the reader/listener wants. It's organizing and uncensoring the information that already existed, but was usually learned through experience, observation, or implication, but rarely clearly stated or taught. For guys who want to have a long term relationship, the red pill teaches how to maximize the odds of not getting someone incompatible, and methods to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 09:48 AM |
| 6 | What's the difference between the red pill and misogyny?The advice about gold diggers is to be aware that they aren't loyal and that they view you as a utility, so don't get scammed. The advice about making money to attract them is for if you want to get laid despite knowing that the "love" is likely superficial. It's about informed consent, not hypocrisy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 09:28 AM |
| – | did social institutions break female sexual selection , and are short men’s sons the one dealing with it nowI think this realization is useful, at least to some, because it can change expectations. If the expectation is that almost every man is going to find someone to love them and possibly reproduce with, and that men who fail to do that are "wrong" in some way or "failed", then men who don't reach that outcome are going to be judged by society and be resentful themselves. If the expectation is that finding love and reproducing is an unlikely but happy possibility that not everyone experiences, then… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/26 11:44 AM |
| 7 | Guys who complain about “fairness” won’t ask for a hookup because it hurts their victim complex.Guys don't want a relationship to be a downgrade, sexually, from being a hookup. Especially in regards to the same woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/26 12:47 PM |
| – | How often do you get hurt by female doctors/nurses?Healthcare and teaching are two difficult and often undercompensated fields. which in turn attracts people who are entering for reasons other than money. It seems to either be absolute saints who are there due to it being a life purpose, passion, or calling, or people who are there for the status and power over others. Unfortunately there aren't enough of the first type, and not enough ways to effectively deal with the second type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/26 12:41 PM |
| 2 | Do you think male dominated hobbies and spaces should stay male dominated?I've been through the experience of environments and hobbies being "softened" and made more palatable for women by stripping out some of the rougher more violent and gritty aspects. Some things are just uncomfortable for most women, but they will try to join anyways for access to the social element. In turn the "kind" people will change things to be more inclusive and comfortable, and the people who liked things the way they were before will be told that they are bad people who need to suck it u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Getting/ finding "better/ new hobbies" is advice for rich men, deadbeats or older men with stable careers.Even someone as privileged as him is being crushed by the economy and even from his privileged position has neither the time nor money needed to effectively date. Being told to "get a hobby" doesn't help when you don't have the time to invest in the hobby, and most "social" hobbies are locked behind paywalls. To be fair, if you can't afford the time or money for a hobby, you probably can't afford to date, but that's a pretty grim reality for guys in their 20s to come to grips with, when it's mai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 12:42 AM |
| 10 | Getting/ finding "better/ new hobbies" is advice for rich men, deadbeats or older men with stable careers.Unfortunately, I think the answer is that you aren't "supposed" to be able to date until you have the disposable time and disposable income to pick up one of these "hobbies". If you can't afford the hobby, you likely won't be able to afford dates, gifts, or offer financial aid/security. If you can't afford the time for a hobby, then you likely wouldn't have the time to give the relationship the attention and time investment it needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 12:33 AM |
| – | Getting/ finding "better/ new hobbies" is advice for rich men, deadbeats or older men with stable careers.That really just makes his point even stronger. Even someone as "privileged" as him is struggling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Do you think attraction is a choice?I don't think it's exactly a choice, but it's not objective either. I believe attraction, and likewise sexuality, are heavily impacted by socialization. Biological instinct plays a big role, but propaganda, exposure, and "culture" can make a massive difference in what is considered attractive to you. Finally, comparison is the thief of joy. The hottest person you've seen will most likely be attractive to you, but once you are exposed to even "better" options the old attractions can seem lacking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Some stuff is relatively clear, but with exceptions, which is where "reading the room" is useful, but others are completely vague and are where plausible deniability comes into play. Making "read the room" the standard helps in those cases where the answer is an absolute "no", but just muddies things in any case where the answer would be "yes" or "maybe". As an example, approaching a woman at a bar can be retroactively twisted as romantically or hostilely as you want, so "read the room" doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 05:28 AM |
| 5 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Plausible deniability is mainly for social safety, manipulating how events are retold to insure they don't suffer shame. In short, it's about avoiding accountability for their own choices. Since the danger isn't from me, but her own choices and the reaction of others to those choices, I'm rather frustrated at being thrown under the bus to insure her safety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 02:10 PM |
| 18 | Why are women suprised that men don't believe that women like men?Making "read the room" the standard is just an attempt to secure plausible deniability, to give women more safety and power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 06:46 AM |
| 10 | Being successful at dating in 2026 requires MUCH more than looks and skills most men cant even fathom yet.I think it's likely that, since they can't get past that threshold, the factor (looks) that their missing is the most immediate problem and where they focus. The rest is mostly irrelevant until they can get past that first hurdle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 04:28 AM |
| – | Men, would you date a woman that says she’s a “girls girl”?I refuse to involve myself with someone who willfully embraces irrationality over reason. Being a "girl's girl" typically means she puts sexism over fairness or justice, and shows more loyalty to strangers of the same gender than towards the men in her own family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Forgiveness for past sins in datingFrom a divine perspective, sin is sin, with little to no difference in type or severity. The child who steals a candy bar is going to the same hell as hitler. In turn, divine forgiveness is absolute and provides sanctuary no matter the sin being forgiven. Because the scale of divine condemnation and forgiveness is so wide, it's of little to no use to humans for informing our judgements on earth. The pedo who repents and is forgiven by god should still be kept away from children, the cheater who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/25 02:57 AM |
| 5 | Why do so many women exaggerate about their standards?I work somewhere that's visited by homeless people rather often, and every homeless woman, including the druggies, come in with their boyfriends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 09:47 PM |
| – | “Male loneliness crisis” gets the attention it does because society fears lonely discontented men more than it fears lonely discontented womenif you add a space after someone's u/ in the search bar, it bypasses the private setting by simply finding the posts and comments from the profile directly rather than routing through the profile itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Men, what actually motivates you to be romantic towards a woman?Women enjoy stories. Creating a narrative or a story around the event and playing into it is how to play their game. Don't just get a candy for her, find a way to turn it into a story and link that story to her through the candy. Tangentially, "how was your day" is an invitation to share a story, not just to say it was good or bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Men, what actually motivates you to be romantic towards a woman?If she appreciates and reciprocates the sentiment then romance is fun. If it's a thankless task or alternatively is the only way to "purchase" affection from her, then it feels like being exploited or compensated dating respectively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/25 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Claiming "Sex isn't the only thing men care about" only works when men show they have other priorities."A" priority and "the" priority are two different concepts. Additionally, things can have upper and lower limits to their "value", meaning that there is a baseline were even "low priority" things become big issues if below the baseline. In the context of sex, it's not the most important thing, but its' complete absence is enough to make it a more pertinent issue. As an example, being able to respect that person is the most fundamental requirement for me to even consider getting in a relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 03:22 AM |
| – | The societal expectation for men to be the protectors should be removedYou can't control the actions of others, only your own. So I can't make other people not be violent, I can only decide if I'll be violent and how I'll respond to the violence of others. Being a protector is about the response to violence. The response to other people's choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/25 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe your life holds value simply because you exist?This is a topic I've taken an interest in because I think many people get it wrong, and the implications of the answer effect numerous other issues. Shortly, I answer no. Value is subjective, so rather than asking if a life has value the question should be "who does this life have value to". My life is valued by my family, by my friends, to a lesser extent by my manager at my job. It's valued by the government to a slight degree as a source of taxes and domestic output, and it's valued slightly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/25 06:46 AM |
| 9 | Misandry being banned is somehow a bad thingI think the forth one is saying that women are just as capable of rape as men, and to imply they are less capable of evil is misogyny rather than misandry. It makes sense they would view it like that when it's in terms of "victim/victimizer" and seen through the lens of power dynamics. To say women are inherently the victims or unable to be on the "stronger" side of the power dynamic is an insult to them. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 07/11/25 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Men who want a stay at home wife or mother: what would you consider financial abuse versus fair?Plenty of women are good with budgeting and responsible with money, but plenty more don't think or understand the value of a dollar, or have poor impulse control resulting in excessive luxury purchases. Personally, I simply refuse to involve myself with someone like that, even if it means I stay single, but for those who do marry that type of partner, I fully understand why they would limit the potential damage they could do to the family finances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 01:11 AM |
| – | When you say "what do you bring to the table", what do you expect? Do you expect different things in different life stages?There are two types of people who I see use that phrase, and the two types are linked. The first are women who believe their very existence is a gift to those around them, but that the men she's dating need more to justify their position in her life. It's hypocrisy. The second are men who see women list out a massive wishlist of all the things she want's from a guy, who are asking why she feels entitled to all of that and if she has anything about herself that justifies the attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Your age-appropriate date has a collection of romance novels, fanfiction, and Disney Princess stuff. Red flag? Or no big deal?Some characters are more plot objects than actual characters, simply existing for things to happen to them. People who strongly identify with those characters are likely to not take their own agency into account and aspire to be passive members in a relationship rather than actively participating. Some characters are more complex but have rather problematic morals espoused in their story. People who strongly identify with those characters require a level of vetting to make sure they aren't also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 11:12 PM |
| 25 | It IS society's fault that many neurodivergent men are unable to find a partnerI've always found it easy to make friends one on one. Within minutes of a third person entering the interaction, I'm an outsider and rejected. Once it's back to one on one they're back to treating me as a "friend". Asking some of them about it, the answer I got was that they were bullied by the others for being friends with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/25 03:54 AM |
| – | why do men hate sluts so much, instead of just feeling neutral?Every woman who adopts a "slut" mindset or the associated values is another woman who no longer fits what many guys are looking for in a potential wife. Since finding and "matching" with an eligible woman is already hard enough, anything that decreases that pool of options is seen as bad, and encouraging, glorifying, or otherwise spreading that set of values is seen as problematic and harmful. TLDR: To few "wife material" women already. More sluts means fewer "wife material" women, while fewer s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 01:28 PM |
| – | I think boyfriend/husband material is more validatingThis cuts to the heart of the matter in a way the other comments don't. Well said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Why do you want women to tell men "be attractive" ?Being logical only helps you process information. Information still has to be inputted to start the process. As to "chad" one key advantage is genetic traits that make being attractive easier or natural. Guys will be pissed to know they have to work harder for the same or less reward, but that doesn't make it untrue or change what they need to hear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 05:16 AM |
| 6 | Why do you want women to tell men "be attractive" ?Because when you leave out the "be attractive" part, then you end up with a bunch of confused and resentful guys who fulfill the other requirements, but aren't attractive, who thought they had a chance. Additionally, these guys would benefit from being told the things that they could do to become more attractive. Lose weight and gain muscle definition. Invest in their wardrobe and dress fashionably. Learn actual grooming methods, like how to care for and trim a beard or mustache and style hair. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/25 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Do men believe that nice guys finish last ?Part of the idea hinges on the idea that people are not nearly as unique and special as they might wish they were or were told they are. Yes, the exact combination of history and genetics to create you may not be replicated, but plenty of people have enough physical similarity to be interchangeable from that perspective, and most "life stories" or personality archetypes are repeated often enough to be tropes. The truly unique aspects of a person rarely are surface level enough to judge them by, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/25 05:47 AM |
| – | As a person with daddy issues, I feel kinda offended by the daddy issues stereotype in women.People who have spent a large amount of time in a state of deprivation tend to acquire some "issues" about whatever it was they were deprived of. This often manifests by the person pursuing whatever it is with an abnormally high intensity. It's why it's not unusual for children who were raised in extremely controlling environment to go a bit wild the first time they get any degree of real freedom. It's why people who grew up hungry or who have experienced starvation are more likely to horde food… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 08:55 AM |
| 5 | Do Prettier Women Have Worse Personalities?I think it's a wave form. Fully ugly are nice, making the best of what the world gave them. Lower end of average tend to be petty, constantly outcompeted by the women around them and treated as "easy targets" by the guys. Average and upper average are back to being nice, as pretty privilege has kicked in enough for life to be pleasant but not enough for full entitlement. Hot or especially pretty tend toward bitchiness as they are chased by most guys and allowed to get away with far to much (hot-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 07:56 AM |
| 1 | Are men remotely offended by the idea that sex with them ruins and devalues a person?The value of that car [to you] is $10. The value to the salesman may be $1500, and the value to the person who chooses to buy it at that price is obviously at or above $1500. That doesn't change its value to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/25 07:05 AM |
| 6 | CMV: summer clothing is not an excuse for men to look moreGuys have summer clothes too, but for some reason the women's versions tend to be far more revealing. No one has an issue with someone dressing to stay cool as long as they aren't indecent. Now the other side of the conversation is "attention". Namely receiving unwanted attention. As a hypothetical, if I dressed as a plague doctor to go shopping, would I be unreasonable to demand that no one stare or watch me? It may make me uncomfortable, but I made the choice to dress in a way that draws atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/25 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Do you value the opposite gender for their intrinsic worth and dignity? If so, could you learn to love someone who is of the opposite gender based on that?First, value is subjective. Valued by whom and for what, is the question that clarifies almost all "value" based conversations. Second, "Love" has multiple meanings and multiple connotations. The Greek language has separate words for many types of love, specifically to avoid this confusion. Sexual "love", friendship "love", romantic "love", and "love" towards our fellow humans are all different things even if they can overlap. If you're asking for romantic "love" based on me valuing you as a fel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/25 01:40 AM |
| 4 | Are men remotely offended by the idea that sex with them ruins and devalues a person?Value is subjective, not objective. It may be a majority holding that subjective view, but it's still subjective. With that in mind, sex with a man devalues a woman, specifically as a prospective partner, for other men. A boyfriend doesn't value his girlfriend less for sleeping with him, but would likely value her less as a long term partner for sleeping with others. Value is always a question of who is doing the valuing, and what it's being valued for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/25 03:54 AM |
| 22 | The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk awaySure, she can be replaced, but it's significantly harder. Which means the threshold for being "harder or less convenient to stay with than it is to replace them" is much higher too. The problem for many women that threshold is so low as to be inevitable, and for many guys it's so high as to be meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 01:47 PM |
| 32 | The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk awayIt's like an employer employee power dynamic. She wanted the position filled, and he may have been the best candidate at the time, but he can be "fired" and replaced by any number of the guys sending in their applications. If it's harder or less convenient to stay with him than it is to replace him, then he will be replaced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/25 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Dating an OnlyFans model - why do straight men say no but lesbians say yes?On an instinctual level for guys, much of the stuff complained about comes down to paternity concerns. Women don't have to wonder or worry about if a kid is theirs, so exclusivity and mate guarding matters much less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 02:11 AM |
| – | Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue”Anything that makes a large enough portion of the population discontent becomes an issue. The severity of that issue is proportional to how many discontented people there are, and how desperate they are to make that discontent go away. No matter how little you value or think of the issue, if enough people value it, it has importance and impact. Dismissing it will not make it go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 07:19 PM |
| 4 | A significant amount of issues in dating arise from misandryFemale value was tied to exclusive access rights, while male value was tied to physical production. A man who couldn't produce, provide, and protect was worthless, while a woman who refused access to her man or gave access to other men was worthless. Times have changed, and women don't need the protection of a man as much because they get it from the government. They don't need the production of a man because they can get it from society or do it themselves. And they don't need the provision of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 12:48 PM |
| – | You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in datingAttraction is largely influenced by social perception and comparison. Your pool of options were once pretty limited due to geography and exposure, so it wasn't impossible to be attractive relative to those around you. With social media rising and travel getting easier, that pool of options now encompasses entire countries, and the perception is that it encompasses the entire world. This results in an overwhelming number of choices for the choosers, and overwhelming competition for those being ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/25 02:19 AM |
| 0 | Single mothers symbolize something deeply painful to a lot of menAlternatively that something is/was wrong with the woman. That another man invested and trusted her, had a child and a family with her, and then had it taken away in a divorce. Maybe she got bored or unhappy. Most reasons why a mother would be single are not flattering to her, with being widowed being one of the only consistently good answers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Admitting something I have noticed as a woman myself: Many women take it really personally and get annoyed if an attractive man ends up dating someone below his "league" looks wise. Is it the same for men?The only thing that makes me look askance is when the guy is pretty obviously a loser or dickbag. The guy with no job who spends all their time playing videogames and negging the girlfriend to keep her believing this is all she deserves. The guy she complains about for not contributing anything other than a harsh negative attitude and passable dick. And in that case, part of me is wondering how and why that guy is dating at all, but also what the hell went wrong in the decision making process of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many people have the "no 1 on 1 time with the opposite gender" rule?I'm not calling it an accident. What a person wants changes, and their environment and circumstances play a heavy role in what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 11:19 PM |
| 2 | Wanting to matter to someone without being a healed woman's reward is not narcissism, it's humanBlackpill tends to admit that sometimes you've tried and lost, whether because of a skill issue, the environment, or because the game was rigged from the start, but that nihilism gets called unhelpful and banned pretty quick. Truth is that plenty of people compete and lose, then if they are lucky they might get a consolation prize or a chance to compete again in the loser's bracket. Many are sore losers, and especially resent the women who don't even realize that she's in the loser's bracket too… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 06:15 AM |
| 5 | Why do so many people have the "no 1 on 1 time with the opposite gender" rule?Trust is important, but to maintain it you should be doing more things that add to your trustworthiness than that detract from it. If you act sketchy once or twice, I might not think anything of it because of established trust. If you consistently make sketchy or risky choices, that trust will wear thin and reverification will be needed. Never depend on a gambling addict to not lose, and repeatedly seeking alone time with potential partners is a gamble with your emotions and self control. You co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 05:55 AM |
| 3 | Misogyny causes violence against women. Misandry causes hurt feelings.Women are more likely to employ things as weapons during those conflicts. Additionally, they are able to easily claim victimhood and turn the police against their abuse victim if there is any attempt at resistance, much less retaliation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Why do women want men to provide but not make more?The problem is the goalposts have shifted. Women already legally get the same pay for the same work. The outcome is still that women make less on average though, so the goal has shifted from equal rights to equal outcomes. If the outcomes are equal and women generally earn just as much as men, then where are they going to find the breadwinner man who makes more than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 08:22 PM |
| 1 | There's a narrative out there that someone who has never been in a relationship is undateable because they "don't know how to be in a relationship". What are some examples of this?My first relationship and those I've seen my friends go through shared a couple common issues. First was a lack of understanding what being in a relationship meant in practical terms, and not being aware of things that are red flags in someone you are looking to date long term. The second issue is desperation and FOMO resulting in an "anything is better than nothing" mentality, which leads to ignoring blatant issues and turning a blind eye to major incompatibilities. Once you've gone through you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/25 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Are you okay being the man she settled for? Does is matter if you disgust her?Agreed. We keep trying to tell people to just deprogram themselves from the propaganda and advertisements, but that almost never actually works, and even when it works it still doesn't prevent relapsing due to the constant stream of messaging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 02:17 PM |
| 0 | Are you okay being the man she settled for? Does is matter if you disgust her?In the moment or long term? In the moment, no one likes having their dreams crushed or their hopes shot down. They are likely to resent it and even be defiant about chasing those dreams. Long term though, the ones who fail would resent the people who encouraged them to waste their time and seek external factors to blame for their failure. Managing expectations is important. Dream small and you can live your dreams. Dream to big and you'll never be content with life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 04:39 AM |
| 4 | Are you okay being the man she settled for? Does is matter if you disgust her?I get the impression that it's the goal most of the men here have, but that how to go about it is a confusing and complicated issue. Rather than trying to explain a social engineering campaign to alter the perception of men on a societal level, it's simpler for them to say what the desired end goal is instead. Women having more "reasonable" standards and willing to men who are average locally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/25 04:34 AM |
| 3 | Are you okay being the man she settled for? Does is matter if you disgust her?No. The argument isn't for women to go with men they aren't attracted to. Attraction can be influenced by external pressures, so just like there was an active effort in media and advertising to convince men that obesity is attractive (or at least fine) in women, it's believed that women can be advertised to and socialized to find average men attractive. At the minimum, reducing the amount that "top" men are paraded and dangled as obtainable dreams would potentially help. Anecdotal, so not likely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/25 07:53 PM |
| 11 | There's crazy, batshit crazy, and then there is this no doubt stunning example of womanhoodI'd be willing to entertain the idea if they would at least be consistent with the reasoning. However "you shouldn't get pregnant if you can't afford a kid" is seen as a human rights violation by these same types of people. If you are going to argue for eugenics, at least have the grace and fortitude to stand your ground and not be a hypocrite. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 28/02/25 11:37 AM |
| 5 | Dear RP guys, the phrase “exist as woman get free stuff?” How does that work?The "free stuff" from guys is usually from one of two mentalities. First is chivalry, attempting to protect the "weak and innocent" from difficulties. This mentality has greatly decreased though, to the point where current generations are almost heading the opposite direction, due to being taught how women are not weak and are far from innocent (generally). The second is an attempt to impress and signal provider capabilities in the hopes of gaining your interest. It can be low effort stuff to ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 09:22 AM |
| 7 | Are these flirting or “approaching” or just being nice?4 and 5 are just weird behavior. 1 could be being nice or an attempt to gage your interest. 3 and 6 are likely approach attempts to some degree, though potentially with a focus on getting to know you, and letting you get to know them, before attempting to escalate. 2 is odd, but the focused attention and desire for physical contact reads as having interest and little clue on how to make a move on that interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 08:56 PM |
| 6 | What Makes a Man Creepy?Someone is creepy when there is something "wrong" or "off" about them but the cause of that feeling isn't readily apparent. Now, that isn't to say you can't find out the cause and realize the dude is mentally disturbed, but most of "creepy" is being about telling someone isn't a healthy "normal" person and being instinctually fearful of the unknown. Being noticeably weird in an understandable way bypasses most of that fear, and allows the potential to be "quirky" instead, or at least only "weird… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 11:52 PM |
| 29 | Name me one guy who was saved from any rape accusation (true or false), who isn’t a rich guy, celebrity, politician, or someone with really good connections to famous figures.This is the main disconnect in conversations about how to handle justice in regards to SA. We have a two tiered justice system, and allegations are handled very differently depending on what tier you're in. People complaining about a lack of justice for rape victims usually are pointing to defendants in the upper tier, while people complaining about a lack of justice for the accused are usually pointing at the lower tier. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 05/02/25 10:05 AM |
| 7 | How certain do you think someone should be that their relationship will not play out as both partners intend before they’re ethically obligated to end the relationship?There is a point of realization that a relationship is doomed to end and is not your endgame. This realization is rarely at a time personally convenient for dropping the relationship and losing whatever benefits you were getting from it, so many will wait to create a clean bridge away rather than leaping, but in turn ambush their ex without the same opportunity. I would argue that staying silent about the realization is staying in the relationship under false pretenses and mildly predatory. It w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 07:52 AM |
| 3 | Telling men that they've no romantic option because it's self-imposed logic should be used for women too who say there are no good men, bar is in hell and they would rather be single.The apps used to actually have decent effectiveness before Match bought them all. Almost every dating app is now owned by the same company, and they try to buy any new app that gets popular. They've formed a monopoly on online dating, and most don't realize because the apps have different names. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 11:02 PM |
| 7 | If Cinderella is the fairytale of a low SMV woman capturing a top 20% man. Then what is male equivalent fairytale for men's struggles?Agreed. There is also overlap with the power fantasy common to isekais or "hidden" badass animes, where the MC is a "decent guy" but has little or no external value until he's gifted some power or resource through a "lucky" break. This is especially clear in monster based stories, like vampires, shifters, and mages. Edgerunners is like this as well, but I think OP is wrong, that it isn't a "rapist fantasy", but that his external value increased through chroming up until he was superficially attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 10:44 AM |
| 2 | "Women have been opressed so it's your turn"same for me, so I don't know what's going on | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/12/24 10:27 AM |
| 17 | Internalised Misandry: Men Feeling Bad Just For Existing…We are only responsible for what we can control. The feelings of others, including fear, are not something we can control. Thus we are not responsible for their feelings or fear. Their feelings are their own problem, and we need to get society, especially legally, to recognize that. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 11/11/24 03:47 PM |
| 3 | Why do men pursue women with traits or lifestyles they don’t approve of once they are in a relationship?For the same reason you take down the "for sale" sign after buying a house. Some behaviors and lifestyles are fine when you are unattached or when you are looking for someone and "advertising" yourself. Those same behaviors become concerning once you are committed to some, because they indicate that you are still searching for better or additional options. Additionally, being promiscuous and sleeping around isn't cheating when you are single, but is once you are dating. The standard changes beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/24 01:21 PM |
| 1 | As a red pill or purple pilled man, what do you think about feminism?The "work" of an athlete is attracting viewer attention through their performance. If they are attracting the same amount of viewership, then they should get the same amount of pay. They are subsidized because they aren't able to get enough views to be profitable. They aren't doing the same amount of "work". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 01:58 AM |
| 10 | I dont even know how to caption this... insaneUtopia is a societal perpetual motion machine. And like the saying goes, the hard part when making perpetual motion is figuring out where to hide the batteries. Best case scenario is "slave" robots rather than sentient slaves. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 20/10/24 07:23 PM |
| 4 | Are female virgins past 23 typically very desirable?Bad luck and lack of good opportunity really does work well as a reason. I'm in a smaller town that suffers from drug issues, so viable options here are incredibly limited. It can be hard to find people that share your values as well, so if you prioritize a healthy and lasting relationship over hookups, then it makes sense that it would take more luck to find someone. That said, interest is still needed even if action isn't taken, as dating someone who is much "colder" than you can be a very fru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 07:04 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do males actually hate sluts?It's nothing personal. It's the sum of their impact on society that is hated. One slut isn't an issue, but when the percentage is high enough that there is a significant chance that any woman you date is/was a slut, then that is an issue. Add in how they encourage other women to experiment with promiscuity who might otherwise not, and the issue grows. The hate is because they make it rarer to find a good wife. On the other hand is jealousy and resentment that those in sexual scarcity have toward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/24 11:16 PM |
| 7 | Would you rather be “picked” or settled for?I think the way the question can be contextualized is "Did she want you, or did she want a boyfriend/husband and decide you would be it?". Lots of people love being in a relationship more than they love the person they are in the relationship with, but in turn most people would rather be loved for who they are rather than for the role they fill. Relationships based on wanting to be in a relationship, rather than wanting to be with the person, tend to fail because the other person fails to live u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 03:56 AM |
| 5 | My grandma told me it’s dangerous to sleep around as a woman because many men will view you as fair game. Do you agree with this sentiment?I think you hit a point there. It's much less insulting to be part of the 90% who get's turned down, than to be part of the 10% who get's rejected. Even if it's only hyperbolic perception, being rejected by someone who is supposed to be "easy" is rough in a different way, and I could see why that might be the straw that pushes an already unstable or unsuccessful guy over the edge. I'm not condoning or excusing anything here, just saying that chastity makes the impact of your acceptance higher an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/24 02:39 AM |
| 9 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women are"No bad behaviors, only bad targets" sums up perfectly alot of what I've been seeing in America recently. As a culture we are becoming (or always have been) more vindictive, and we need "approved" targets to vent our evil on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 03:57 PM |
| 6 | Pro Life Men; if it were possible, would you raise the child aloneWithout hesitation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/24 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Or they want it to be?Then that's not monogamy and doesn't use the same equation. Likewise, it would indicate an incompatibility with monogamy, and lower one's value as a prospective partner for a monogamous relationship, which seems to still be what the majority of people claim to want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Or they want it to be?As others have pointed out, the issue is mostly with framing. To start with is the social contract of monogamy and committed relationships. At its most basic level it's an agreement to provide sexual exclusivity with each other, usually with the implication that there is an elevated level of intimacy. This is often expanded to involve expectations of each other's time, attention, and affection, and potentially monetary and physical aid and provision. Someone who provides that exclusivity without… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill?In the "red pill" circles that I used to watch, almost every single person you listed was denigrated and exposed for the grifters they are and warned about. The one's who become prominent tend to do so because they advertise themselves in an effort to sell something. In the end, there are multiple sections of the "fanbase" that follow different people. Some are suppressed and spread mainly through word of mouth, while others spread based on infamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 06:27 AM |
| 2 | Do you feel any male soliditary with male refugees/immigrants or view them as sexual competition/invaders?Humans are a many things, and one of those is a resource. The higher up the ladder of power you are the more you see them as such because you have more uses for them. The value of a resource is connected to it's rarity in most situations, and right now humans are one of the most plentiful resources on the planet. This directly impacts the value of an hour of labor unless that labor is highly specialized and the qualifications gatekept to maintain scarcity. I do not want an increase in my local p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 05:34 AM |
| 6 | Q4M men with zero options, do you consider it a silver lining that you can't attract women who would treat you badly, or do you mourn over not being able to attract them as well?Being able to attract any women, even toxic ones, both would increase a person's confidence and would act as bait to make attracting a better one easier. Just like the more money you have the easier it is to earn more, the more women interested in you the easier it is to get even more interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 05:11 PM |
| 1 | On the dating book for women "Why men love bitches"point 1 is specifically for if you are trying to get a guy who doesn't want to commit to you for some reason but still wants to date and have fun with you. Not a great idea in general, but something that still gets attempted because that guy is usually attractive enough to have options. Point 2 heads in the wrong direction with it, but the foundational idea is to live your life and not reformat your life to revolve around him, and in turn realize that his life may not revolve around you and he n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:47 AM |
| 4 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.agreed. It's part of Maslow's hierarchy of needs as tying into the tiers above physiological needs and safety and security. Naysayers here like to equate "need" in this conversation to physiological needs to justify their view, and ignore the role it plays in higher level needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 03:40 AM |
| -6 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderneither of those are about sugarcoating or gassing up. "man code" are rules of engagement for the intrasexual competition, to minimize crossing certain moral lines or sabotaging each other. Likewise "bros before hoes" is about maintaining relationships with your friends rather than getting isolated into a relationship or allowing competition to ruin friendships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:36 PM |
| 0 | What is the difference between being "strong and independent" and being an adult?The bar for women is so low that them behaving like a functional adult is beyond expectations and worthy of celebration. Don't worry, the bar for men is dropping by the day and I fully expect to hear them using the "strong and independent" catchphrase soon enough. I'd like to note that I'm not condoning the low expectations, simply observing public sentiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:02 PM |
| 6 | Why do some alphas choose the beta lifestyleIt's a question of being honestly desired. A "beta" feels/knows that the majority of the desire women feel towards them is conditional or for what they provide, and that they can be out bid at any time. There is now sense of security because they are negotiating from a position of weakness. So they wish they were honestly (primally/instinctively/sexually) desired by women and could negotiate from a position of strength. Guys who are already desired, and are secure in the knowledge that they are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 09:32 PM |
| -1 | Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality?As others have pointed out, obesity can mean a number of things, from just being a bit thick, to being spherical. But generally how a person presents themselves, from what they wear, tattoos or piercings, how much muscle or fat, and their hygiene, can all indicate their mentality, personality, and values. Someone who is super fit is unlikely to match my values, but neither would someone who is very obese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Why does this generation fixate and obsses so much over "therapy"?Life sucks in general, and in specific impactful ways, and usually in a way that there is little you can do to make it stop sucking. People can handle suffering, but helplessness is far more torturous, so people go to therapy in the hopes of gaining some level of control over life. If you can't control the external, you can at least control the internal, for all the good it'll do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:58 AM |
| 10 | "men arent *allowed* to..."Bringing it back to the "men aren't allowed to", most of the things that's said about is because women still have their "weapon" and no hesitation to use it to punish men for whatever it is. Say the wrong thing or hold the wrong opinion and watch society itself be used as a club to beat you into submission. Meanwhile women's bad behavior goes mostly unchecked because men don't have a "weapon" they can use to punish them with. That's why they talk about how "women are allowed" all sorts of toxic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 07:19 AM |
| 18 | "men arent *allowed* to..."Yeah, the skill and effort a man would need to weaponize a social group, or even just keep the group neutral, against a woman who sheds a single tear is enough to have most guys just give up. When this creates situations like domestic violence where a woman can beat her man and then cry to the cops and get the man arrested..... it's just no good. So some guys eventually decide that nothing else worked and go back to the "natural" solution and then no body wins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 07:05 AM |
| 17 | "men arent *allowed* to..."A little of that, but more the frustration of being "at the mercy" of those who don't have their natural weapons restrained. Kinda like if a portion of the population were given sticks and allowed to hit whoever they wanted as long as they used the approved stick, but anyone not part of that group was given a small twig that could break at the first use to use defend themselves with instead. Or like a basketball team and football team having a rivalry, but only being allowed to settle it through… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:54 AM |
| 20 | "men arent *allowed* to..."It's a bit primal, but men by nature use violence, the implication of violence, and physical strength as their primary weapons to settle conflict, while women by nature weaponize the "tribe" or society around them to settle conflicts. In modern civilization violence (men's default weapon) is more or less banned from use while weaponizing public opinion and social strength (women's default weapon) is encouraged and approved. Men are sensitive because they know they are forced into playing a game … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Men with mental health issues, how do you deal with your mental health issues while dating women who are more prone to seeing signs of major weakness, mental illness or vulnerability in a man as a major ick, especially during the first stages of dating and relationships?one path is to learn how to turn off everything except sympathy, wisdom, and stability for short periods of time when she needs you to take it seriously, and then the rest of the time lean into the "damaged" aspect so that instead of weak you are "quirky", have "crazy" strength, and trigger the "I can change him/ I can fix him" response. Struggling is fine as long as you meet the two criteria of being entertaining and not letting your weakness make her feel unsafe, at risk, or like you'll bring … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:07 AM |
| -5 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)hypothetically, what if what's best for men is to group up to oppress women again in order to artificially raise the "demand" for male partners? Not my preferred outcome, but one that I could see as possible if things tilt far enough to one side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Is "having a social circle or group" always a +1 ?A social circle acts as a connection to society, and acts as a preventative measure against the most extreme and antisocial behaviors. Someone who has no social group is seen as unanchored and as potentially dangerous, like a loose cannon, while those with a friend group are "tied down" and less likely to go off the deep end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 03:09 AM |
| -1 | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.A decent amount of the house chore stuff is a difference in standards. Men in general have a more flexible standard for "clean" and "dirty". Both parties likely want a clean house, but if the men are content as long as the dirt level is under 30% and the women feel it's an immediate need at 20%, then there is a mismatch that needs clear communication to fix. The guy isn't going to spontaneously clean at 20% because it's still within reasonable levels to him, and the gal isn't likely to let it re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 03:25 AM |
| 3 | Women will flirt right in front of their partner, if the guy they are flirting with is HVMPart of the problem is that flirting is often intentionally done in such a way as to leave plausible deniability. This is not limited to when in relationships, but also just to not be embarrassed by rejection or so they can bail on a developing relationship at any time by claiming there was nothing there in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 11:06 PM |
| – | Why is female body hair considered controversial/politicalFor a while it was fashionable for women to shave, and that is still considered normal. In turn, political groups used it as a battleground for women's empowerment due to it being relatively observable. This lead to the "standard" perception that not shaving meant you were either rebelling against the "patriarchy" in one form or another, or were simply unconcerned with attracting men (and more likely seeking women instead). Guy's fashion has fluctuated both ways, but the stereotypes that are cur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Why do certain conservatives want to get rid of no fault divorce?I may be misinformed, and this likely is not true everywhere, but the reason I've heard is that "no fault" includes not taking fault into account when deciding on the division of assets and the payment of alimony. This results in situations where someone may be forced to stay with a cheater or abusive spouse because they would be financially ruined if they split. Someone could cheat on you and then divorce you and you'd still have to pay them because "no one's at fault". With "fault" being put b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 01:23 AM |
| 3 | Married men live long so Marriage mostly benefits menThe often touted argument is that married men living longer is evidence that marriage mostly benefits men. This post is attempting to refute that specific argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 05:31 AM |
| 0 | Why is it unreasonable for a woman to want a man who earns the same salary as her or more?The main factor I've heard behind this complaint is that women want a man who earns more or "at least" as much as she does, but women have been squeezing men out of the position to make that amount, some intentionally while other incidentally. It's not due to a moral wrong that women committed, but doubling the workforce doubles the competition, and for every woman that "wins" that's another man who is no longer making equal or more. Again, there's nothing morally wrong, but "dating down" is the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 11:52 PM |
| 2 | First dating app for people with autism and ADHD launchesIsn't that how facebook or one of the big social media sites started? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 07:28 AM |
| 2 | First dating app for people with autism and ADHD launchesHiki (https://www.hikiapp.com/) already exists, so I don't know why this one is getting called first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 07:27 AM |
| 5 | Everything you use is invented and built by men is a faulty argument. Stop using itIt's not a great response to the individual woman who views herself as independent, but is instead a response to the growing impression that society itself has moved past the need for men and masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/24 08:44 PM |
| 3 | What does "insecure" even means?Part of the reason why people want relationships is for security. The idea of having someone who will be loyal and stay with you through thick and thin is really attractive. However humans are not inherently good, and often are deceptive and selfish, thus it is wise to be aware of possible betrayals and to not ignore potential dangers to yourself and to your relationship. If there are dangers that are not being addressed and handled, then it is natural to not feel secure in the relationship. Som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 07:52 PM |
| 2 | Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debateI agree with most of those except for the forest one. There are way to many ghost stories about banshees and other undead maidens in the woods trying to lure men to their death to tell me that a woman alone in the woods at night isn't seen as creepy. In fact I'd argue that the man would get the benefit of being assumed to have a purpose to be in the woods at night, for good or ill but at least explainable and not just random murder or ghost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 03:37 AM |
| 2 | Why do people get so defensive about casual sex/hookups?I don't think it's really prudishness, as most of them don't care what others do separate from them. It just is the standard they use for the people they allow to be part of their life, and there is usually some wiggle room. Basically not caring if someone random has had 10+ partners, but personally wanting to date someone with under 7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Why do people get so defensive about casual sex/hookups?funnily enough, I don't remember where and haven't been able to find it again so I can't back this, but I remember seeing a study that indicated that both men and women (on average) have a limit at which they believe someone, man or woman, is overly promiscuous to a off-putting degree. And the number that was most common as the cut off point was 7. Man or woman, 7 sexual partners or more is likely to result in judgement from others according to a study I can no longer find. I only saw it once, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 01:54 AM |
| 3 | Is it true that most people cannot lower their standards biologically?In turn social media, dating apps, and the internet in general has made dating a theoretically global enterprise, and even if practical limitations may prevent acting on an option in Paris or Hong Kong, their existence as potential is enough to drive up the standard for attractiveness. If society lost access to digital images for a few years, or maybe even just a few months, the level of pickiness would drastically drop. It might not fully solve some of the issues that cause the divorce rate to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Why Do Manosphere Dudes Get Mad At Women Having Options Instead of Other Men for GIVING Them Those Options?I wasn't saying anything about how good or bad the bet is. Simply that having enough women attracted to you to enable you to behave promiscuously is a group validation that a man is high value or status, and that makes him even more attractive. It creates a feedback loop which results in "Chad". If you yourself are an equally "high value" woman (by male standards, and by his in particular) then he will likely be more than happy to commit. Most people of either gender aim to high though and then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/24 12:42 AM |
| 0 | Why Do Manosphere Dudes Get Mad At Women Having Options Instead of Other Men for GIVING Them Those Options?A chad could likely be defined as a guy who has the opportunity and ability to be promiscuous, whether or not they take advantage of that option. Many will take the opportunity presented to them though because they have little reason not to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Are bluePillers more fortunate and privileged than redPillers ?It tends to fall in the uncanny valley of sexuality. Not quite gay enough for the gay men, but a bit too gay for the women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 07:36 PM |
| – | If a man wouldn’t want the women in his life being in porn, then his feelings about porn are pretty anti-porn.I don't really care about the morality of either. I care about the effects, and doing porn has a number of physical, social, and psychological effects that are harmful. And of those the psychological and physical are what I consider the most important. On the other hand watching porn also has psychological effects that can be harmful, and the potential for social or physical issues depending on outside factors. Most people do not want those they care about to do things that are self destructive,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 01:35 AM |
| – | If a man wouldn’t want the women in his life being in porn, then his feelings about porn are pretty anti-porn.and the importance is that if it's really her maturing then maybe there is a chance, but if it's just her situation changing that has changed her, then if the situation changes again she will likely change again too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 01:13 AM |
| – | If a man wouldn’t want the women in his life being in porn, then his feelings about porn are pretty anti-porn.I like to watch cars in demolition derbies, but I wouldn't want my car put in one, and I wouldn't buy a car that went through one for my normal driving needs. Most people have things they enjoy watching, that they would not want to be personally involved in or have directly in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 01:09 AM |
| 1 | When men call women “illogical,” do they genuinely believe she is literally not following a rationale?I think part of it is conflating irrational with delusional, when someone may have sound logic, but the inputs are so distorted by emotion that they no longer resemble reality. Like cases of people breaking up over stuff that was done in a dream. That stuff didn't happen, but it did trigger emotions and those emotions override the fact that it didn't happen. It's delusion not irrationality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/24 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Is dating a "free market"?It's a not quite a free market because the government has made itself a competitor and uses its authority to steal the products men offer, and offer them itself. As an example, alimony. Marriage would look very different if the government didn't offer a refund policy. Child support and welfare are also both cases of the government taking money from men (money that could be used to gain success on the dating market), and offering it to women without crediting the men. Frankly, financial benefit i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 06:42 AM |
| 7 | when nice guys complain about their situation is not because being nice didnt get them a girlfriend, but because they can see guys who are far from nice doing way better, but women manipulatively twist this narrative to bully them.because not all men are the same, and those other factors matter more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 01:24 AM |
| 8 | when nice guys complain about their situation is not because being nice didnt get them a girlfriend, but because they can see guys who are far from nice doing way better, but women manipulatively twist this narrative to bully them.The issue is that society, both men and women, views being in a relationship as a test of worth and risk. If you are not in a relationship then you are seen as having something wrong with you that lowers your worth or that makes you a risk to those around you in some way. Fairness matters in evaluation methods, and that is why "nice guys" get mad. It's not only about not having a relationship, but also due to being evaluated so poorly as a result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 01:20 AM |
| 0 | People become blue pill from fiction entertainment, but would those stories be as entertaining if they were red pill?A lot of Chinese novels are extremely redpill, with a heavy focus on materialism, status, and strength. The Male lead is usually the best man in the area, and the women in the story are either women who are attracted to him and that he provides for and almost "adopts", or women who disdain him while assuming he's poor or weak, and then are dismayed and regretful when they realize they missed their chance with a rich guy. Japanese novels tend to be similar, but Chinese novels are very blunt about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 02:37 AM |
| 3 | “Extreme male brain is autism and extreme female brain is BPD”tbf you can find the autistic people in a room pretty consistently by meowing and seeing who responds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:53 AM |
| 6 | Soft harems and polygamy will be destigmatized in the coming generations if current trends continueThis is a likely outcome of current trends, and there are two possibilities I see that could stop it. One is the "incel uprising" that you mentioned, though it may simply be in the form of shaming becoming acceptable again and providing the social pressure needed as people get fed up with the general rise in degenerate behavior. Alternatively an economic crash that makes it extremely difficult to live independently would result in people pairing up for the sake of housing and paying bills. Throu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 02:17 AM |
| 8 | If the game itself is not fair, does it justify not playing fair to get what you want?however that is a level of introspection that most seem to avoid or be incapable of. Plenty of people do horrid shit because it serves their purpose at the moment, and then continue on as if nothing happened all while still believing themselves to be good people. Almost every shit person you've ever delt with would think that they are a relatively good person. Usually it's due to humans being great at excusing or "recontextualizing" behavior to feel less bad to them. That, combined with a lack o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 08:19 AM |
| 2 | Ladies, who aren't in college or school, and got a boyfriend in the last 12 months, where and how did you meet him?the difference is that men don't get pissy about being approached by anything other than the pixie dream girl. Just like women have concerns about being approached by the wrong guy, men have concerns about being the "wrong guy" when approaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 04:57 AM |
| 0 | Men having lower standards of cleanliness is not a "flaw"Alternatively is that if it's something one party wants and the other doesn't care, then the party that wants it is responsible for getting it. At the very least it's no longer an obligation unless agreed on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 06:22 AM |
| 11 | Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again?At least part of it is simply due to the economic downturn. Feminism rises when it's relatively easy to put food on the table, and traditional roles become alot more attractive when it's difficult. It's the "freedom" vs "security" dynamic that applies to much of how the world works. As long as you can guaranty yourself a certain standard of security you want freedom, but when security is scare freedom becomes something that can be traded away in exchange. Frankly it's the same reasoning behind g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 02:27 AM |
| 14 | Who is your favourite example of positive masculinity?uncle iroh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Is sleeping around while early dating morally okay behavior?OP said during early dating, which implies that the goal is dating and not hooking up. If it's a hookup or fwb then fair game because there's no commitment in the process. If you are trying to date then you are trying to commit. Kinda hard to commit when the other person is fucking around on the side. Personally I would take it as a sign of holding different values or being at a different stage of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/24 04:09 AM |
| 3 | Alyssa Zinger (22 years old) posed as a 14-year-old homeschooled student on social media and raped a minor 30 times. She has many more victims according to further investigation. She has currently walked out of jail with only a $7,500 bond.the law does not determine morality, and the government has a significant motive for wanting to monopolize the right to use violence as a tool as much as possible. But you are correct in most circumstances, in that the law does not agree. | /r/AntiFeminists | 17/12/23 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Alyssa Zinger (22 years old) posed as a 14-year-old homeschooled student on social media and raped a minor 30 times. She has many more victims according to further investigation. She has currently walked out of jail with only a $7,500 bond.weak vs strong doesn't matter compared to aggressor vs defender. In any other circumstance there is an understanding that being weak only provides (theoretical) protection from being attacked, but is your own problem if you are the attacker. If you attack someone you are consenting to the ass whooping that may or may not follow. If you don't want to get the shit beaten out of you, then the first place to start is minding your own business and not attacking someone else. | /r/AntiFeminists | 15/12/23 12:08 AM |
| – | "No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to losethat could be a fair assessment. Predictions predicated on delusions. That still would not make it a threat, but simply the ramblings of a madman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 06:12 AM |
| – | "No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to loseI was using it as an example of how pointing out predictable danger is not the same as threatening, since the person I was replying to was trying to dismiss this post as a threat from an incel. In this case I suppose it would be society at large, with emphasis given to the female portion of it, which is trending in a direction that he warns leads to danger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 06:09 AM |
| – | "No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to loseThe person being warned of a predicted outcome. They are not being threatened with a crash, as the person warning them is not taking action to cause the crash. They are simply being warned that crashing is a likely outcome of their current behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 03:37 AM |
| – | "No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to loseTo be clear, are you saying he isn't making a prediction of what he believes to be the result of the current social trends he observes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 03:06 AM |
| – | "No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to losenot really a threat so much as a prediction of the natural outcome of choices. In the same way that telling someone who constantly speeds and drives recklessly that they will probably crash eventually is not a threat. He may be wrong about what the outcome will be, but the outcome he predicts based on his observation and reasoning is a rather grim one, and one that would best be avoided if possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 02:57 AM |
| 5 | Women criticise men for having reasonable boundariesDictating would be to far, but both parties should want eachother to feel secure in the relationship, and if him dressing a certain way makes you feel less secure, or you dressing a certain way makes him feel less secure, then changing or at least seeking compromise isn't unreasonable. Like many things it can be distilled down to "this is what I want for me individually, but it strains us as a relationship. Would I rather leave that strain or give up a personal desire?". Some people feel that a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 04:04 AM |
| 3 | Women criticise men for having reasonable boundariesit could be argued that how you dress is part of flirting, but it is a bit of a grey area. I think in the end it's a matter of how much of yourself you are giving to your partner. A relationship like that involves a certain amount of "shared ownership" of eachother, where each partner has at least some claim on the other. Maybe not in casual dating, but definitely when at the level of shared responsibilities or taking responsibility for eachother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Why is domestic violence funny/acceptable when the man is the victim?true, but that seems a bit like moving goal posts. "Not being able to inflict damage" vs "not being able to inflict damage without retaliation" is a big difference with important implications. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 04:07 AM |
| 3 | Why is domestic violence funny/acceptable when the man is the victim?having a knife does not make you immune from stab wounds. Strength and durability are two different things, and it is much easier to inflict harm than to shrug it off. A guy could harm a woman, but that does not in any way mean that she couldn't harm him if she put more than the bare minimum effort in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:54 AM |
| 2 | "Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship."Responsibility goes to the one who made the choice. Women have the right to choose for themselves now, so they also have the responsibility to choose well and shoulder the blame if they choose poorly. It being such a big and impactful decision is why the responsibility was given to the father or to a professional matchmaker. Someone who would listen to your preferences, but (theoretically) use their wisdom to arrange the most stable and happy match available. This applied to both men and women i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Average and Just below average men are having a hard time because women are super pragmatic.frankly, it was easier to compete when you only had to compete with locals. Now the entire world is your competition, and the standard rises from being the top percent in town to being the top percent in the nation or even world. Social media and dating apps have played a major role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 11:33 PM |
| 6 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Very few people. But caring is reciprocal, and if no one cares about those men then why would they care about anyone else? What happens when a large portion of the male population stops caring about being empathetic or good to other people? When they no longer see the need to even try to care because it's not reciprocated? Sometimes you need to care about other people's problems because if you don't they could become your problem as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 10:15 PM |
| 1 | How much would a month of "be the other sex" for everyone change the game.Norah Vincent. An experiment some women do in order to prove a point or because they are interested in learning, is to make a tinder account using the picture and information of a male friend of theirs. Typically, this experiment ends within a couple weeks, with the women involved having mental issues for a month or two following due to how harsh and cold other women are online to the "male" account. Norah Vincent took this to the extreme and spent a year passing as well as possible as a man. Sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 09:46 PM |
| 14 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Yep, yet men are often shamed for it, and the assumption is that there must be something wrong with him for the rejection to occur. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 08:58 PM |
| 6 | Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.Not blaming men for women's decision not to fuck them would be a decent start. If we accept that she can refuse for any reason or even no reason, then it follows that the reason doesn't have to be the man's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 08:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.telling your partner that you have wandering eyes is one thing, but spending the evening staring at the asses of every attractive woman who passes by while your partner sits right there is entirely different. Explaining that you feel sad and lonely for a while after a friend dies is one thing, but her walking in on you with tears streaming down your face afterwards is different. It's the difference between "knowing" something and having experienced it. People's tolerance for the weakness of othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 12:17 AM |
| 3 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.being honest about them is one thing, but giving a live demonstration is another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 12:08 AM |
| – | Why do men hate sex workers so much?In the same way that drug dealers wouldn't exist if people stopped buying drugs right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 06:51 AM |
| 13 | If you’re autistic, you’re not the intended audience for blue pill adviceIt doesn't matter what the cause is. Large groups of disgruntled people, especially young men, is always an issue for society at large sooner or later. Currently it's taking the form of the "lying flat"/antiwork movement and the MGTOW and passport bro movements. Historically this is a problem that was solved by either providing the stable structure needed for most to see a hopeful path, or through the death of a large chunk of the young male population through either plague or war. Die offs like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 01:18 AM |
| 2 | JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat)The point was defensive sports rather than specifically masculine. The idea is that if fear of victimization is what keeps you from losing weight, then exercising in a way that sets you up to protect yourself a different way from victimization may help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 04:30 AM |
| 13 | Being short it s a huge problem in malesThe supply of males outstrips the demand in almost every context, thus devaluing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 06:04 AM |
| 3 | What to do with the libido gap?I suppose that explains why it wasn't mentioned in class then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 02:22 AM |
| 0 | What to do with the libido gap?this is the type of thing that would be good to learn about in sex-ed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 10:58 PM |
| – | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?Frankly, yes. The goal is for non widowed single mothers to suffer the consequences of their bad choices, and in turn act as object lessons for the younger generation of women to warn them away from making those same bad choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 10:55 PM |
| 2 | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?I think a large part of it is that they are strike breakers. Men want to discourage the behavior and decision making that results in single mothers, so they try to boycott single mothers who are not widowed. Men who will date or marry single moms undermine that goal by removing some or most of the consequences of having been a single mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 7 | How do you explain most young women being in relationships?spoken like a true gambling addict. In the end, the house always wins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers: What do you actually consider to be sufficient evidence of r*pe and SA?As you mentioned, sex crimes are usually private and don't lend themselves to much evidence. There are rape kits that can be done if you go to the cops quick enough, but I know people don't like this answer because it puts responsibility on the victim. An alternative is simply to help people be armed and aware, so that they can defend themselves in the moment or at least avenge themselves after, but again this puts the responsibility on the victim. The problem is that witness testimony is known … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 07:59 PM |
| 8 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?"find pleasant or agreeable" and "find attractive" are two very different things. Additionally, I did not use an absolute phrasing and say that women are not attracted to nice guys. I said that women aren't as attracted to nice guys as they are to guys displaying less agreeable traits. There are exceptions and additional variables that can alter the outcome. However the pattern is recognizable and consistent enough to make some general judgements from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 01:13 AM |
| 20 | How come "nice girls finish last" isn't as popular of a saying?"Nice guys finish last" has two different common applications. One is that people who play fairly will lose to people willing to cheat, and in this world most people are more than fine playing a bit dirty so anyone who refuses to is putting themselves at a disadvantage. This is a non gendered saying, though it defaults to masculine due to the culture at the time and because guys are more likely to be actively and blatantly competing. The other meaning is that women do not find "niceness" nearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:31 AM |
| – | Why be angry at women over their attraction?So the reason is that the attraction is relative based on social pressures, and those pressures could be changed. The first step is acknowledging that there is an issue, the second is motivating people to address that issue, and the third is pushing through change to solve the issue. However women have motive to not want things to change since the dating market currently favors them and so don't want the issue acknowledged, and some men are still able to succeed despite the disbalance and take a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | What exactly do RP men want?For the rules of the game to be fair, clear, and consistent. And frankly, the first one isn't even the priority at this point. The only ways to win when the rules are unknown and shifting are to either start with a large advantage or get lucky. Some people decide to stop playing a game they see as unwinnable, while others try to work together to figure out the rules but are frustrated and helpless with the inconsistency of those rules. Most guys are down to play no matter how bad the odds are as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:28 AM |
| 1 | So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this?maybe. Either side could be trying to take advantage of the situation. All I'm saying is that it's more likely that something is going on if the ratio is completely skewed like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 03:33 AM |
| 1 | What is the actaul goal of this sub to you personally?The each side is selling a specific solution, so they need "their problem" to be the "real" one or they have to accept they are selling useless product. Black pill doesn't offer a solution because they aren't trying to benefit from you, so they have no reason to offer a false hope. Theoretically, purple pill debate should be a thinktank to figure out a solution together, but first we have to cut through the delusion and grift of both sides until the motive is just to find a solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 09:40 PM |
| 2 | So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this?One person in a friend group made almost entirely of the opposite gender is usually an issue, even if it's not the odd one out who is the problem. The most balanced the gender ratio, the less problems are likely to pop up, as the attention or potential attention is spread out and people keep each other more honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 09:33 PM |
| 2 | So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this?I saw that post. Specifically, she was hanging out with them alone late at night and was specifically seeking out the guys to be "friends" with. I don't see an issue with men and women being friends, but the ratio can indicate problems. If there is a single girl and a bunch of guys in the group, then there is the risk on one side of each guy targeting her, and the other side brings the question of why she prioritizes males friends. Is there something she is after that she can't get from female f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: do you find women only transport offensive?I think this is a great idea, but unfair from a practical standpoint if there is a shortage of transport already. Basically I see no issue with this as long as there are still enough busses for everyone to get a ride in a timely manner and it's not overly disruptive of the flow. If people are struggling to fit on the bus already and now extra options are available, but only for a specific group, then I could see that causing resentment for practical reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:32 PM |
| 1 | I don’t understand why the debate for dating and dating preferences are neededThe discussions are because many of the preferences are are related or determined by societal pressures, and there is a hope that these discussions will induce enough societal change to change those preferences. It's similar to some of what the body positivity and sex positivity movements are attempting with some of their messaging. That said, it's unclear exactly how we go from complaining about "unfair" or inefficient preferences to societal change that alters the preference, which results in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/23 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Men should just refuse to get marriedego. Plain and simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 11:41 PM |
| 14 | Do men actually like the idea of “coaching” a woman through life and why?It's the male version of the caretaker instinct. A desire to teach and improve the people around us. We may be creating an ally to stand beside us or a rival to drive us onward, but either way we all get stronger together by lifting up those nearby. Additionally, and slightly alternatively, guys just don't like seeing things done "wrong", and want to problem solve. Someone not knowing how to do something or doing it wrong is a problem, so there is a desire to fix that by either doing it ourselve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:35 PM |
| 23 | Autistic men struggle to hide their keenness/attraction and this puts people off.My personal rule of thumb is that it's fine to approach, but not to follow. If she makes up a reason to leave, then she will come back or arrange further contact if she wants to keep talking. Otherwise that is the end of the conversation until the next coincidental meeting, and even then awareness that she showed disinterest is kept in mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 12:17 PM |
| 0 | Is it true that a lot of guys are bitter about dating being better in their 30s?I think part of the mindset is due to the perception of value. It's often said, and not without some truth, that a large portion of a woman's value to a man is tied to their youth, due to it impacting their beauty, fertility, and amount of baggage. A man's value to a woman is said to be tied to their resources and ability to provide stability, which are both things that tend to increase with age. The result is that if two 30 year olds are dating, then the woman is getting the man at his "prime",… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/23 11:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red pill is dangerous for autistic menThe red pill is simply a set of knowledge and understanding that is normally hidden behind the scenes and often denied. What people do with that knowledge and the conclusions they come to are a separate issue entirely. Some sell the info, others package it into something more sensational and scam people, others warn of the dangers, many explain how to hook up, and a few tell of how the knowledge can be used to gain and maintain a long term relationship. Everyone has their view on the right way t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/23 07:25 AM |
| 2 | Men in western society should reject marriageyou have to realize though that, while you can choose to stick it out, there is no way to control, force, or guarantee that your partner will also choose to stick it out and work through it. What you choose or do matters a lot less due to the fact that it can all be made waste by choices and actions entirely outside of your control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/23 08:30 PM |
| 6 | Seeing all the benign and insignificant reasons women say they have gotten "The Ick" makes it hard to believe they care about men's mental healthI love seeing this acknowledged. Most people seem to pretend that "care" is infinite and so we should care about everyone. "care" is a limited resource, in that it is time, energy, and focus, and some people have more to give while others have less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 01:35 AM |
| 5 | Is your partner's needs not about you?you're missing the key part. Don't bother trying to persuade her, Leave, and find someone else who will. The distinction between leaving a relationship that doesn't match what you are seeking vs cheating is an important one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 10:07 PM |
| 3 | Karens are just common women that feel angry they lost the pretty privilegeTo be fair, many states in America don't require consent from all parties to film if in a public area. Some do, but many don't. As such, if someone has a problem being filmed in public, then while understandable, that is still a them problem and not the problem of the person filming. That said, stalking may be a different thing, and I'm not sure legally where the line between simply filming people in public spaces and being considered as stalking a specific person is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 07:28 PM |
| 2 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?so a combination of nanny and secretary. Or perhaps just a really good butler or head maid. Fair enough. Let's quantify it and pay accordingly so everyone stops complaining about it being unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Nonverbal consentI believe part of the issue is a desire for plausible deniability. If you are simply using body language, then it's simply to say after the fact that you didn't consent or were coerced. Sometimes this is used for headgames, sometimes for blackmail, to bail on an embarrassing situation, or to get revenge later for something else. I know not all women would take that approach, and even fewer think they would before being in the situation, but almost everyone likes having options avalible and tools… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 12:32 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: What are some positive things about modern feminism?ghostbusters! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/23 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Is slut shaming based on gender or who your having sex with?It comes down to "value" being added or removed. Men valued a woman who was chaste because she was more likely to be loyal to him and the children she gave birth to were more likely to be his and not another man's. This resulted in young women being taught chastity because that would add value to them, and shamed for lowering their value by sleeping around. An additional factor is other women shaming a woman who sleeps around due to control of sex being a source of power, and the women who is gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 01:27 AM |
| – | I think the entire pill spectrum is dehumanizing for both men and women.The red pill is simply trying to figure out the logic and reason behind human relationships. Some people find great comfort in trying to bring order to the chaos that is human behaviors and emotions, while others find comfort in simply living through those emotions and accepting them. Likewise, to bring order to something with so many factors and so much irrationality, it's needed to peel back layer after layer and reduce the many factors until you reach the core foundation. Some find that deepl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/23 02:02 AM |
| 2 | One of the worst pieces of advice in dating: have similar interestsPersonally, I think that compatible values are much more important, but I also aim for around three shared interests that we could do together. I don't have to like all of their stuff, and they don't have to like all of mine, but it's easier to hang out and spend time together when there is a common interest or activity to reinforce the joy of being around each other. Shared interests isn't the foundation though, it's just a lubricant to prevent chaffing in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 11:20 PM |
| – | Most men and women are really bad at detecting flirtingThat involves risk, and most people avoid risks when possible. Due to the culture of men being expected to approach, guys don't usually have the option of avoiding risk if they want to date, but even that is changing as more guys are deciding it's not worth the rising risks and seemingly lowered rewards, and more women are starting to become more aggressive, desperate, or less hypocritical about what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 12:50 PM |
| 15 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?You seem to be mostly right. Typically, they want something that adds drama, joy, or that they could exploit, but isn't a weakness or vulnerability that could be exploited by outsiders or put her at risk in any way. This is broad brush based on my understanding of the human mind, and I don't claim that it is flawless, but it does explain most of the duality of women wanting emotional vulnerability while also hating it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 10:06 AM |
| 1 | I think the red pill is morally wrong in almost every aspect.The red pill isn't a moral code, or even an instruction manual per say. It's an attempt to understand the why and how of human behavior at the most primal and subconscious level. As a result, there's usually plenty of statistics, some psychology and sociology, a bit of pseudo science hoodoo, and a fair bit of personal interpretation based on observation or trauma. Then once you understand something, the next question is what do you do with that knowledge. Some try to leverage it to game a system… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 09:00 AM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingmen and women are more or less equally "thirsty". The difference is that men are willing to quench that thirst with a partner from the majority of women, while women are thirsting after the ideal of the best. The women's "thirst" is concentrated on certain men, while men's "thirst" is diluted, but also expressed, to the majority of women. Additionally, women have more options, so they are drowning, while the majority of men struggle to have options and operate under scarcity, which leads to a so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 05:01 AM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingThe problem is that the majority of guys seem not to be attractive to the majority of women. As a result, a lot of guys are and likely will remain single for the foreseeable future. This isn't necessarily something within the control of the guys in question, so they aren't necessarily to blame. That said, they still have a natural drive to find those connections and create a family, and for a concerningly large percentage of the male population, that simply isn't in the cards. Now, what do you d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:06 PM |
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