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Yeah man, like, to wield money successfully for those girls, you have to be making minimum $1mil or so a year. Generally it goes like this...10x (baseline average man's salary) = +2 points on attractiveness scale. So like, 300k takes you up 2 points. 3mil takes you up +4 points. Most guys, if they bust it, can at least add around 2 points.
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 05:58 PM
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Well, I mean you need to just adjust the price tag. Idk what your income is apart from your net worth, but if you're > 250k <$1mil, you need to find a hot chick that at most has a college degree and comes from a lower middle class to middle class (not upper middle class) background. She'll be impressed by a lifestyle that costs you almost nothing. If you're courting some woman who came from the upper middle class, then yeah...you're going to have to fork over a lot more.
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 05:38 PM
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In most cases that Iv experienced have never been worried about such things, tho this is lower class upper middle class college and local gals I meet. Why can't you apply "black pill" logic to this as well? If women will lie and placate people about dick size, looks, and whatever else... ...why would they not lie about 'oh, I'm not materialistic' 'oh that doesn't matter to me.' ​ Because I guarantee you that an ugly baller billionaire who can just command any social scene by way of buying out th…
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 05:18 PM
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Yeah, I'll chime in. Money is more powerful for attraction and anything else than any other trait you can think of. The raw power having a lot of money gives someone is just...stupendous. In The Great Gatsby, Myrtle's husband George is presented as being very handsome. Tom is just rich. And he treats Myrtle like shit. But the allure of his wealth is enough for her to fuck up her marriage and eventually end her own life. Hypergamy is STATUS --- any way it can be gotten.
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 05:17 PM
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Yeah, that makes no sense. According to Aristotle, the great souled man "likes owning beautiful and useless things, rather than useful things, that bring in return, since the former show his independence more." You don't spend the $$ to attract women. You spend the $$ as a way of announcing to society that you are VIP. ​
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 05:15 PM
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Okay, if having nice cars, nice suits, etc. etc. would be spending "my money to the point I was broke," then you aren't "reasonably wealthy."
/r/BlackPillScience25/01/19 05:12 PM
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K well it wasn't a poll, dingus, it was a study of correlative variables...
/r/BlackPillScience21/01/19 06:56 PM
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A classic twin study revealed that over 50% of attractiveness ratings were due to non-shared enivronment between twins, i.e. unique personal experiences and exposure. Thanks to the myriad of issues surrounding twin studies, the number is likely much higher. https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)01019-2?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982215010192%3Fshowall%3Dtrue01019-2?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpi…
/r/BlackPillScience14/01/19 05:32 PM
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You can look at the height difference between and women who are married and see that it matters. Yeah they've done that: "[a]lthough all known preference rules for height were qualitatively realised in actual couples, these effects were generally modest when compared to random mating." https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0054186 Even coffee meets bagels found that for men, every inch taller than a women increases your attractiveness by 10%... You can go look up the …
/r/BlackPillScience14/01/19 05:28 PM
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SWR/SHR accounts for 80% variance in body attractiveness, height only accounts for 5% https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/ Face matters a lot more. For short-term flings or hookups or whatever, height is probably negligible.
/r/BlackPillScience07/01/19 10:49 PM
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Yes really. (this study essentially proves that personal experience shapes the majority of what an individual finds attractive, i.e. non-shared environment between twins): https://www.cbsnews.com/news/science-explains-why-beauty-is-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/ More research. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180918-online-dating-is-changing-our-perceptions-of-beauty Fisherian Runaway has selected us to recognize that very easily Aww, that's cute you used a word like that. Well, if there were sexu…
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/18 01:01 AM
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So... a man in the 90th-tile of attractiveness only has the advantage on a woman in the roughly 40th-tile? Meaning, if we utilize the figure that 66% of women are overweight/obese, means she's likely at the very least overweight. And of course 80th-tile men have an advantage over the 20th-tile women... Meaning that, as I have said, if you can bang fatties online at will, you are in the top 20% of men. Congratulations! No IFFS ands or buts.
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/18 12:54 AM
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" Highly specific markers of attractiveness, e.g. facial symmetry, a deep voice, chiseled chin, women's hourglass figure etc. are largely unrelated to health and ability. Our strong preference for these things has likely evolved in a positive feedback loop (Fisherian runaway), not because they signal health or ability." Yeah, that's because (as I have already pointed out) physical attractiveness is A MOVING TARGET, which is why there is so much GENETIC VARIANCE surrounding the traits considered …
/r/BlackPillScience22/12/18 01:25 AM
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Yeah I like you all gloss over the fact that strength ALONE explained 70% of the variance, whereas height and leanness explained (together) another 10%. ​ ​
/r/BlackPillScience22/12/18 01:23 AM
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It just so happens that rich men are more likely to be tall and handsome No, dude. They've controlled it for WEALTH. You really think women would orgasm more with a rich 5'2 balding ugly guy? Yes. I don't think you understand how powerful money is. Also, from Psychology Today: Oh, okay, cool so you're into explained variance now? Height explains 5% of variance in attractiveness ratings. Shoulder-hip-ratio explains 80%. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/ The researchers from yo…
/r/BlackPillScience17/12/18 09:23 PM
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. I still think these short guys are either lying or are betabuxes How, there's another study I linked that shows people assortatively mating for height and that height preferences don't have that large of an impact on the dating world -- and those weren't self-reported stats. And this notion of money not generating attraction is silly: "Previous research in Germany and America has looked at attributes such as body symmetry and attractiveness, finding that these are also linked with orgasm frequ…
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/18 10:35 PM
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As I said, read the actual paper: "The mean and median number of sex partners for men of different heights were: very short (9.4; 5), short (11.0; 7), average (11.7; 7), tall (12.0; 7), very tall (12.1; 7), and extremely tall (12.3; 7)" Not a big difference. And the woman in the comments is just assuming. Assortative mating would suggest the mates facial attractiveness matching the short male's attractiveness...as well as the height, as the other study indicates. I'm not sure why Gladwell would …
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/18 10:07 AM
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Not really. If you look at the 2nd link, the dropoff for guys under 5'7 isn't that significant. The other studies show a modest effect on income. And I bet if you simply controlled for the correlation between height and IQ those effects would drop off even more.
/r/BlackPillScience10/12/18 03:26 AM
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And that's a none.
/r/BlackPillScience08/12/18 06:42 PM
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How many research papers have you written?
/r/BlackPillScience08/12/18 08:06 AM
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Do you see the chart? 99 tile men get less than 5 messages per week
/r/BlackPillScience08/12/18 06:39 AM
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I actually have. And to believe that any social science research can meaningfully be called objective is brain abortion level stupid.
/r/BlackPillScience08/12/18 06:33 AM
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I didn't say it was the "endall beall." "Women will don a similar device, essentially a glass dildo with a camera and a light inside. The amount of vaginal lubrication they produce can be measured with optical analysis: bounce light off the surface of the glass, and depending on how much fluid has coated the outer surface, the reflected rays will differ. Her results never fail to make a splash with the media: While straight men experience erections at the sight of naked women or heterosexual por…
/r/BlackPillScience08/12/18 12:09 AM
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No...attractiveness does NOT come first (high T, yes, but that's not 'gigablackpill' suggesting that good looks are all that matter): "We set out to answer 3 questions: (1) do attractiveness ratings of men’s faces by women correspond with ratings of desirability for a long- or short-term romantic partner or for a friendship? (2) are ratings correlated with pupil diameter change? and (3) how do ratings and pupil diameter change correlate with the men’s T levels? Attractiveness ratings were correl…
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 11:46 PM
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The funny thing is that the 80th percentile man is probably the one who can easily bang the grossest women lol.
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 09:18 PM
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instead of objectively assessing attraction. GTFO most of this stuff is based on female ratings and questions to females and for whatever reason, when it confirms blackpill's pet positions, it's T3H PR00F, but if otherwise 'omg, no, we have to throw it all out.' when female physiological arousal is actually measured, it doesn't correlate much with ANYTHING females say or what the blackpill posits --- pretty much anything sexual results in arousal, including depictions of animals.
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 09:17 PM
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So, it exhausts variance for traits with a low beneficial mutation rate. Pleiotropy is well known to have a negative impact on the beneficial mutation rate, and the traits we're talking about are just that. Thee mutation selection balance doesn't speak to the beneficial mutation rate, which is why your response to the above is insufficient and why simple traits in corn are also irrelevant. I'm not your research assistant. I've already quoted all of those sources to you multiple times. Go find th…
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 02:33 AM
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A beta male is sexually successful primarily through his access to material resources. An alpha male is successful primarily through his access to social resources. Material wealth and affluence TURNS WOMEN ON...I've cited studies to this effect; women orgasm more for wealthy men and good-looking men. IMO alpha and beta are both reproductive strategies that work equally as well as one another, if we're going to shoehorn human behavior into those boxes (no real need to, it's not exactly scientifi…
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 12:36 AM
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Exactly. This idea of "Chad gets pussy effortlessly" is largely a myth.
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 12:29 AM
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Revenge of HeightHope " We used data from the Millennium Cohort Study (UK) and compared the distribution of height difference in actual couples to simulations of random mating to test how established mate preferences map on to actual mating patterns." "In conclusion, we have shown that all previously documented preference patterns for partner height are at least qualitatively realised in actual pairings. We note, however, that compared to random mating the magnitude of these effects was generall…
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 12:28 AM
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Which is? You still haven't actually said it. Oh so now you're lying. I didn't quote a academic statement detailing that the Breeder's equation is not meant to model evolutionary timescales, which is why you believe that there's no significant loss in genetic variance over time? a philosophy encyclopaedia With primary sources. I also quoted from an Intro to Pop Genetics textbook. This is documented What I quoted had nothing to do with epistasis, so no, you never responded to anything. ​
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 12:22 AM
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lol, no it doesn't. what an idiotic thing to say.
/r/BlackPillScience07/12/18 12:20 AM
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Yes, we could just be seeing the interplay of several equally successful mating strategies.
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 11:07 PM
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​ Your comment here is good proof that you don't know what you're talking about Like most of your comments? You have any answer for the several statements of consensus that you flat out ignore? How about your basic misunderstanding of the breeder's equation? You don't have to respond or link the paper. You commented on MY OP, after all. ​ ​
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 10:44 PM
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" Research on human OSR and its effects is a fairly recent development but has already led to findings that are generally coherent and consistent with the nonhuman evidence. The evidence to date indicates that people who find themselves in female-disadvantaged mating markets show systematic and adaptive changes in their behaviors, including increased female intrasexual competition." http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199376377.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199376377-e-1 ​ Just a te…
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 10:40 PM
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There's no reason to believe that sitting should make you more confident "The mere act of physically approaching a potential romantic partner (vs. being approached), a behavior that is more characteristic of men than of women, increases one's attraction to that partner." If you are in the sitting position, people are treating you as though you are more attractive than normal (esp in the men's case), thus increasing self-confidence. Also, if you have more self-confidence to start with, you're lik…
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 10:26 PM
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No one said it was, luckily. Oh, well that would be the only way that what you said about short-term mating would make any fucking sense. Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt, then old sport. Again, not what the interest here is. "instead, they care about having a chance in short-term mating" is what you said. because most short-term mating involves repeated interaction, personality matters, and the propinquity effect (even though that's not what I'm referring to) matters. [a lot nuh-uh…
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 09:23 PM
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The self-confidence likely came from being in the position of sitter... [I don't like people that challenge my worldview] as you do FTFY
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 07:31 PM
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instead, they care about having a chance in short-term mating ...it's not delimited to one-night stands. Short-term mating means that you mate without commitment for a short duration of time. Based on the OCSLS, only about 10% of 'hook-ups' (all types) occur with someone who is pretty much a stranger, about 24% are with someone the person knows 'very well,' and another 30% said 'a little bit.' So the propinquity effect still would be at play in the majority of short-term mating opportunities ---…
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 07:28 PM
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A study regarding speed dating does not have "ecological validity" for the mainstream dating world. First, it's a convenience sample (HELLO MCFLY), second, it doesn't capture the full variation in how people meet and start dating, third, initial date choices are not final date choices, so it doesn't even capture enough of the courtship process to inform us as to who actually chooses who. "If you can't understand the term" ecological validity, which it seems like you can't, since you just baldly …
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 04:52 PM
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...and this critique can't be applied to most every other study within this field? the speed dating study, for instance... ell o ell
/r/BlackPillScience30/11/18 03:25 AM
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You just have a stupid idea of the reality of a single dude. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903&page=1 That is male thirst, right there. Behold how ugly and SICK. Regarding your matches... https://legionathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/body-fat-chart-women.png.pagespeed.ce.9463keJYYr.png Very large is fine...between 30-40% whatever. It's about the boner, not your pride. I just can't get a boner for the 50% one. The idea is that you get your needs met with woman who…
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/18 11:08 PM
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How far have you dropped your standards?
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/18 10:31 PM
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What about this study? "Previous research has found evidence that the Dark Triad traits are associated with particular facial features. These facial features tend to be rated as less attractive — yet people with dark personalities tend to report having a high number of sexual partners. Brewer and her colleagues were interested in seeing if alcohol could be a factor. In their study, 96 women (ages 18–26 years) drank either water, lemonade with vodka, or a placebo drink before being shown photogra…
/r/BlackPillScience29/11/18 05:01 PM
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Lol, white women who are attractive and fit probably are also X-times as likely to exclude white men who aren't rich, aren't educated, aren't (arbitrary bullshit status marker here) as well. It's not the race, stupid, it's the S-T-A-T-U-S ​
/r/BlackPillScience21/11/18 06:43 PM
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Yeah tell us more about the Breeder's Equation. You are Dunning-Kruger as fuck.
/r/BlackPillScience20/11/18 04:14 PM
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It doesn't show that there's cultural conditioning, as you imply when you claim cultural conditioning. If the knowledge is not a priori (innate), then what can it only be the product of? I have demonstrated their validity No you have not. " Variance analysis constitutes the main tool and is used under this framework to characterize genetic inheritance, and hence determination of phenotypes. In this essay, we show that cultural inheritance, when incorporated into models for the determination of p…
/r/BlackPillScience20/11/18 01:08 AM
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Well yes, it's known that the correlation cannot be environmental. \ Please show the study that completely controlled for any possible correlation between genotype and environment. Just one will do :) Just because someone says it does not mean that it is so. When experts say something and that something generally is widely acknowledge as a general failing in the research, it is more likely than not to be so. "There is something of a consensus in most fields (e.g. philosophy of biology, evolution…
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/18 10:36 PM
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Which has literally nothing to do with cultural conditioning, as you've implied. No, you fucking idiot. YOU stated that that link was to prove that height was not selected for. That's not what the link was for. The link was a counter-example to the notion that a trait was cross-cultural and universal, which is all that is necessary to disprove a theory. And if the trait is not under strong universal selection (for other reasons) the implication is that factors that are not "innate" drive the pre…
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/18 10:36 PM
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It is also not what I did. Again, because you apparently don't know what the hell you say: "There is excellent reason to doubt that your explanation is correct. In terms of broader culture, mating still shows homophily; preferences show homophily." Of course, this was after you mischaracterized my explanation as 'lack of cross-cultural agreement on height shows it wasn't under strong selective pressure.' But regardless, the lack of cross-cultural agreement on height wouldn't be explained by homo…
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/18 08:03 PM
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That link is your argument for cultural conditioning, even though it's not shown there. No that link supports the non-universality of height as an attractive feature in all cultures. Here is what you said, since you already forgot: "Showing that different populations differ with respect to the effects of height does not prove that height hasn't been selected for." My argument against height, and several other traits, being subject to strong selective pressure was the fact that the h^2 of these t…
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/18 07:53 PM
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Being tall can be an advantage or a disadvantage according to the environment, in a jungle or in starvation time it's far better to be short, so height isn't that often an evolutionary advantage, that may explain that Cool! SO it isn't a UNIVERSALLY ATTRACTIVE FEATURE. Kthx. ​
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/18 06:56 PM
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Showing that different populations differ with respect to the effects of height does not prove that height hasn't been selected for, That wasn't my argument regarding why height likely wasn't selected for, so... (whatever that means Oh, do you not understand that people learn value judgments from their cultures? Do you not get how that works? Mind-blowing, I know... [nonsense about homophily] That people tend to mate assortatively and associate with those like themselves demonstrates nothing abo…
/r/BlackPillScience19/11/18 05:18 PM
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Don't be shy, please, tell my why...point by point. :)
/r/BlackPillScience18/11/18 09:48 PM
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lol
/r/BlackPillScience18/11/18 05:27 PM
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Yes, it most definitely is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric_of_science#Epistemic_rhetoric I don't think you should even be saying the word 'science' if you can't understand it from a functional perspective. Edit: For the scientifically illiterate (read: > 99% blackpillers)...science is a set of rules affecting how persuasive claims regarding the material world are and when they should and should not be accepted. i.e. rhetoric. logos is simply part of rhetoric. Which is why someone stating…
/r/BlackPillScience18/11/18 05:26 PM
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If you are on the low end of said attractiveness, becoming wealthy doesn't change that. Yes it can, via your ability to have high status in every group and use the halo effect to improve your attractiveness. Again supported by research...positive personality attributes actually change an individual's attractiveness. In one study a woman went from a 3 to a 7. And a good looking guy dropped down to around a 3. Money is simply a resource that does not affect sexual attraction I literally quoted a s…
/r/BlackPillScience17/11/18 06:48 AM
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Science is a type of rhetoric dingus. :)
/r/BlackPillScience17/11/18 06:31 AM
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Lol...WHY do you think they're doing whatever you want them to do? What are you contributing to all of them? Hmmm....?
/r/BlackPillScience17/11/18 01:18 AM
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This is bullshit. The historical record is replete with anecdotes about whites coming into contact with the natives, and the vast majority feature the natives thinking the whites were ugly and pasty and the whites...largely agreeing that the natives were far more beautiful. And literally, the anecdote about thinking Cortez was a god is bullshit: http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/ask-experts/why-did-moctezuma-think-that-cortes-looked-like-quetzalcoatl KEY QUOTE: "Cortés’s account of his meeting …
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 09:54 PM
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Herodotus, speaking for Greece, thought that the Ethiopians were the most beautiful people on the planet.
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 09:52 PM
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Part II Being nice and agreeable results in being hated and excluded from the collective. Is that why studies have found that altruistic, kind men have more sex and date more? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160804141642.htm Beauty is objective: Nah, this canard is getting blown apart with each passing year. Monkey see monkey do: "In the study of twins, researchers found that a person's environment plays a bigger role than genes in shaping whom they find attractive." https://www.li…
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 06:16 PM
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Even if there were no selective pressure on women (false, even if you use the since 10kya factoid re: 80% women 40% men reproducing), the traits of men would still continuously homogenize. The dimorphism is in the Y chromosome. Women tend to display an interest towards "asshole" men, men display an interest towards "nice" girls.] Doesn't really harm the point, seeing as how the studied focused on an initial encounter. Manipulative, asympathetic, arrogant bullies have higher numbers of sexual par…
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 06:16 PM
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Afaik I didn't define it in the OP. And I'm not sure how the above wouldn't be an example of social status as the result of money. That's usually how money is deployed to gain status --- Gatsby threw parties, P-diddy throws big parties, etc. etc.
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 04:38 PM
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How do you know he was beta? Did you know him well? Okay, so you're not white...so, this rich white woman is having a fling with a non-white young dude. Like, do you not see the hmm...? White women are super racist. Add in hot and add in affluence and you multiply that racism by 5. Seems like she was on a ego trip. Soaking up any male attention she could get, man. Early 30's...not apparently able to fuck a similar status white guy. Not a diss on you at all btw. My point is that GL guys get used …
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 12:00 PM
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K, right there. So she's fucking a younger low social value dude. Why isn't she getting some from a dude her own age? Why not fuck a good looking rich in his own right dude? Women like men who are around their age or older. You're just assuming there was a raw visceral attraction or whatever. More likely --- hubby doesn't give a shit about her and fucks whoever whenever on the side and she feels neglected, which is why she seeks out attention from people most likely to reciprocate. or do you thi…
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 10:35 AM
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how old was she? how long had she been married to him for? sidenote: you're also confusing the overall effect with the individual effect. if 99 out of 100 wealthy people creates a 'look' that is not 'you,' you are outvoted and yeah, the wealth + that look will defeat you. doy. but let's say 99 for every 100 wealthy men today is incel and fills the media with incel heroes who are portrayed as Chads...in 30-50 years, the world will look much different.
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 10:30 AM
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yeah it's so far-fetched... https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/68/1354321/original/katsia-damankova-photo-u4?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces (ha look at the guy, grinning at you...you poor piece of shit) the reason why you can't understand it is because you probably haven't seen it in action. imagine you walk into a room filled with beautiful people, and with a snap of your fingers, you can make them do...whatever the fuck you want them to do. cater to your every whim. for whatever rea…
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 10:16 AM
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Lol the study doesn't say that at all wtf.
/r/BlackPillScience16/11/18 09:25 AM
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Ummm, no... "More than half of the European population is overweight and obese. This study strengthens and updates the claims of an excessive weight epidemic in Europe." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29036436
/r/BlackPillScience14/11/18 12:40 AM
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I'll chime in. I casually dated a single mother once. Was never going to be serious, and we just happened to know each other for awhile before it kind of slipped into a fwb thing. And she really was like that. She took care of her own shit, handled her own money, took care of her health --- looked really, really bangin', and took care of domestic stuff. Super efficient. She was also really self-deprecating about her whole situation. Anytime there'd be anything about how heroic single mothers are…
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 07:59 PM
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That first one sounds fake as fuck. He drives to a parking lot to type a long post on reddit about his wife who may be currently fucking some other man? Give me a break.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:32 PM
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To clarify, I didn't say that third wave feminists were against prostitution, I said that women benefit from patriarchal institutions that outlaw prostitution, because it allows them to ratchet up the price of sex to levels that perhaps higher than it would be otherwise. I don't live in the UK, so I can't speak to that population, but in the US, women with triple digit body counts are fairly rare. Maybe 1 in 150 or so?
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:19 PM
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