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Legal RightsCommunistAndy/r/MensRights30/12/19 09:15 PM
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Social IssuesCommunistAndy/r/MensRights26/12/19 12:17 PM
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CommunistAndy/r/FeminismStopsWhen31/12/19 11:13 AM
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Social IssuesCommunistAndy/r/MensRights10/01/19 08:29 PM
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FeminismCommunistAndy/r/MensRights28/02/19 11:03 AM
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Marriage/ChildrenCommunistAndy/r/MensRights21/04/19 07:46 AM
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Social IssuesCommunistAndy/r/MensRights28/10/18 01:04 AM
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Legal RightsCommunistAndy/r/MensRights01/09/19 10:59 AM
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CommunistAndy/r/MensRights13/02/19 03:03 PM
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HumourCommunistAndy/r/MensRights13/07/20 09:33 PM
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FeminismCommunistAndy/r/MensRights08/03/19 07:47 PM
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Social IssuesCommunistAndy/r/MensRights11/12/18 08:27 AM
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CommunistAndy/r/MensRights06/03/19 02:54 PM
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CommunistAndy/r/MensRights23/02/19 05:44 PM
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IntactivismCommunistAndy/r/MensRights01/02/19 10:15 PM
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Social IssuesCommunistAndy/r/MensRights23/12/19 09:43 AM
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Social IssuesCommunistAndy/r/MensRights28/02/19 10:05 AM
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CommunistAndy/r/MensRights02/12/18 06:14 AM
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Oh honey 👏🏿 you are not worth my time 👏🏿 get it into your thic scull 👏🏿
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:54 PM
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Tru can’t rule that out
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:50 PM
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Compare my last comment to yours, which one has more words or letters? Try counting them all, might be a better time spent then digging into ppls reddit history
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:50 PM
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I didn’t know you were this much of a loser, actually sad Honestly I hope you find your way in life and wish you the best whatever that might mean to you
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:32 PM
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Not secretly, but that’s a huge other topic that you probably don’t have the capacity to discuss
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:29 PM
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AHAHAHAHAHA so you first try to dismiss me like y’all always do and then you get a bright idea for another dig at me Congratulations on thinking this one up buddy
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:28 PM
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This is why it’s impossible to have a proper conversation with a queer...
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:26 PM
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I live in America we have a horrible medical healthcare system and I can’t afford my meds, now upvote my popular opinion
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:24 PM
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Being delusional does not make one pathetic, as for the second reason if you think commenting on reddit is being desperate for attention I don’t know what to tell you...
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:23 PM
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Ahahaha is laugh AHAHAHAHAHAH IS BIG LAUGH ME BIG LAUGH AT YOU Not hard to understand is it? Welcome to the internet you’ll feel like at home soon
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:19 PM
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Ahahahahha go fuck yourself queer
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:14 PM
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Sure thing, going against a bunch of retards and getting hundreds of downvoted for my opinion makes me “pathetic”
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:13 PM
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AHAHAHAHHA loser takes time to go through comments and then when called out on it acts like his time is worth a lot AHAHHAHAAH I can’t stop laughing at you losers
/r/MensRights18/07/20 09:10 PM
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Shiiiiet 5 already??? Growing fast
/r/MensRights18/07/20 04:39 PM
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Dig a Little Dipper keyboard warrior and you will find worse things, this right here is just pure facts
/r/MensRights18/07/20 04:06 PM
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You asked a general “which is?” and I showed my argument further then the next comment from you has an assumption. “Why is that a problem for you?”
/r/MensRights18/07/20 01:43 PM
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Bad faith arguments there buddy The comment I was replying to clearly wasn’t talking about casual flowers you give your grandad on his bd but was talking about women getting flowers from men and not the other way around It’s not a problem for me but a problem for our society, it will stop functioning if we stray too far from our natural selves
/r/MensRights18/07/20 01:23 PM
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Ahahahahha the jokes write themselves
/r/MensRights18/07/20 01:15 PM
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Because men have to fight and prove themselves in front of women, just like every animal fights for the female
/r/MensRights18/07/20 01:13 PM
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You literally couldn’t be more wrong about everything you said
/r/MensRights18/07/20 01:12 PM
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I don’t, there is a reason why men gift flowers to women r/shitMRAsay
/r/MensRights18/07/20 10:43 AM
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They are withholding the info about the guy cause they realized how the fcked up Basically he’s black and had high t so they decided to balance him back to normal with estrogen Based and fcked up at the same time r/shitMRAsay
/r/MensRights16/07/20 06:29 PM
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r/shitMRAsay
/r/MensRights15/07/20 07:52 PM
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Yeah DMs on Twitter
/r/MensRights14/07/20 02:49 PM
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At some point you realize that the MRA are just the same as neocons... instead of “but but you are the real racist” they say “but but you are the real sexist” You kinda have to understand them tho, this movement is in western countries and west is cucked af now so they have to pretend they are the same as women not to become lower class citizens r/shitMRAsay
/r/MensRights11/07/20 10:33 AM
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He is 100% right, however due to how cucked western society is nowadays... you men in the west have to pretend you are equal to women to not be treated like literal trash r/shitMRAsay
/r/MensRights11/07/20 10:30 AM
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If you really don’t see a difference between generalizing somebody for the way they were born and somebody who joins an ideology you need to rethink a bit
/r/MensRights09/03/20 06:43 PM
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But I’m guessing a man never gets anything from a divorce, it’s just that sometimes he doesn’t lose...
/r/MensRights31/12/19 03:29 PM
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Kinda needed here cause sometimes we get brigades by feminazis and we could confuse him with them
/r/MensRights31/12/19 03:28 PM
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You mixed up your -isms According to your kind that one is sexist not racist... And tell me honestly would you rather this money not go to poor white boys than you feel triggered cause of your identity politics
/r/MensRights30/12/19 09:01 AM
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:(
/r/MensRights26/12/19 07:36 PM
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Yep just saw...
/r/MensRights26/12/19 01:46 PM
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Yes we do I think what this points out as well is how hypocritical the feminist movement is, if these stats were about women they would be screeching PATRIARCHY non stop. Since this is about men it’s just that men need to get their shit together and not that there is issues with our society... which there are too but we can fight against it by working harder, doesn’t mean it’s fair that we have to work harder tho
/r/MensRights26/12/19 01:27 PM
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Sources https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/2019-update-for-every-100-girls-part-iii/
/r/MensRights26/12/19 12:17 PM
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I’ve seen her physically retaliate if a guy holds a door too long for her so she can’t go through I don’t think she minds if girls do
/r/MensRights23/12/19 11:04 AM
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Depends on the person nowadays,in my uni there is a girl that will not go through the door if a guy is holding it for her...
/r/MensRights23/12/19 09:45 AM
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No, in fact the guy inside the gas station told me the shop which the parking was in front never enforces it... I just didn’t wanna cause a scene and maybe have the crazy women call the cops cause I’m not from Germany and I wasn’t sure about the laws...
/r/MensRights02/09/19 07:45 AM
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4 spaces, after I tried parking there two feminazis came out of their car complaining... told me not to Yes it’s corporal activism, just makes me sad shit like this is happening
/r/MensRights01/09/19 12:37 PM
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No it’s right outside an entrance to a shop, and how is that “just a suggestion”?? Keep these spaces free for women means that they are for women... and it’s kinda sexist for them to think women are less capable and need special parking spaces
/r/MensRights01/09/19 12:14 PM
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I’m just saying that you writing this here is useless since men are getting locked up for doing nothing and then you go and comment on this post defending a woman that did not actually go to jail or get on the list... Oh and what you said is not an “unpopular opinion”
/r/MensRights09/08/19 07:21 AM
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You know damn well what would happen if it was reversed
/r/MensRights09/08/19 07:09 AM
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I’m in Russia, thanks for this mirror link!
/r/MensRights11/07/19 03:08 PM
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Don’t downvote it, upvote it and let the whole world see this shit...
/r/MensRights24/06/19 11:23 AM
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Could be corporate banter, they are all about it nowadays...
/r/MensRights25/05/19 11:30 AM
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But they HATE successful people even more
/r/MensRights25/05/19 11:28 AM
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So this guy is against attacking one group (makes) but all for attacking another (wealthy ppl) Let’s praise him!
/r/MensRights25/05/19 11:26 AM
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People have been murdering people for hundreds of thousands of years. It seems that people tend to prioritize themselves and their families over the lives of others and a bunch of “might be”. Good luck changing human nature, though. I’m sure we’ll all see the light any day now.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 08:23 AM
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Do not give a penny to that organization
/r/MensRights16/05/19 08:21 AM
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She had domestic misdemeanors and still kept the child, the father said he left her because she was violent and she still kept the child... what a joke
/r/MensRights15/05/19 03:54 PM
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Okay but this guy being downvoted just shows how redditiquette is bs, his comment is ironic and funny but y’all still downvote it...
/r/MensRights12/05/19 08:53 AM
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Name of the artist
/r/MensRights22/04/19 07:58 AM
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Me too but I just had to post it here, sry...
/r/MensRights21/04/19 11:36 AM
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It feels like those ppl are trying to apply the same messages they use for fake women empowerment to men... it doesn’t work and it’s cringe, am I the only way that feels this way? They are basically saying it’s ok to not be manly...
/r/MensRights14/04/19 07:13 PM
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But I think it’s fair to point out men don’t care anywhere near as much as women do...
/r/MensRights12/04/19 05:34 PM
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A theory about how there is an evil corporation that controls you and a theory about how there is an evil patriarchy that controls you... both theories give ppl a hope that attacking someone else instead of fixing something in their own lives will solve their issues
/r/MensRights10/04/19 02:39 PM
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Why not men and women or ladies and gentleman? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE This is so sexist, I will make sure that establishment is closed... /s
/r/MensRights09/03/19 10:05 AM
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Wasn’t able to get to that part before I was told he has no time for stupid ppl like me so I left the guy alone...
/r/MensRights08/03/19 09:35 PM
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Are these the 3 commandments of iamverysmart?
/r/MensRights08/03/19 09:18 PM
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Sorry but not true man, sometimes a comedian makes himself the joke and that is totally reasonable and there is no reason to laugh at Ellen either... It’s sad when she pulls shit like this
/r/MensRights08/03/19 04:15 PM
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I’m on my way to become a citizen there... smh
/r/MensRights08/03/19 03:23 PM
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“Que pasa macho” translates to “what’s up man” Nobody uses it to mean that except the feminazis who believe every man is a machista (male chauvinist) Originally the word meant “tough guy” in Spanish and I consider myself tough, as many other men do, so do we deserve to die? Since when is being tough a bad quality for a man? There is 0 reason to defend feminazis, especially in this situation...
/r/MensRights08/03/19 03:23 PM
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To stop brigadistas I think (Edit; brigading but I wanna keep the autocorrected version)
/r/MensRights07/03/19 10:21 PM
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White people every time you are in a black persons house steal something, they stole it in the first place anyways probably so let’s teach them a lesson...
/r/MensRights07/03/19 10:20 PM
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This is the kind of comment they would use as evidence...
/r/MensRights07/03/19 07:25 AM
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Employees are more changeable than the executives, yes a company should retain good workers but to claim it wouldn’t exist without one of its workers is absurd....
/r/MensRights04/03/19 10:28 AM
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He is legitimate but not democratically elected which is exactly what I claimed, don’t try and twist this into something else...
/r/MensRights01/03/19 06:30 PM
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Yeah but the way I worded the title would confuse people even more with a /s It’s just a big failure on my part ;)
/r/MensRights01/03/19 07:30 AM
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Yeah when I was writing the title I wanted to use it like a feminist would but sarcastically
/r/MensRights01/03/19 07:15 AM
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I don’t know, it gets your attention and paints the law as something that an evil person like Hitler would pass... I’m guessing that y’all are just too used to our side being the one accused of being nazis so you assume the Hitler is bad for us somehow
/r/MensRights01/03/19 07:11 AM
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Look what’s wrong with you is that you are looking for one ideology to follow when you should look at each issue and choose yourself which I’m glad you did with Men’s right... Simply to put it you are not gonna see Men’s rights on the left since it goes against their beliefs and as such maybe we can just agree on this issue with you while disagree on others and not just blindly follow an ideology ;)
/r/MensRights01/03/19 07:09 AM
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In Spain men are fuckin pussy whipped af But some are waking up lately and hopefully next election we see a right wing party that doesn’t specifically appoint women for government position and then use that fact to advertise their party (something the current prime minister did, he was not democratically elected btw)
/r/MensRights01/03/19 07:06 AM
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Yes I agree, sry for incorrect use
/r/MensRights28/02/19 03:46 PM
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But we ca not start arguing this cause then it just fucks everything up, for legal purposes rape has to be defined in a certain way... Maybe it is worse but it is his choice to believe in that ideology, all we can do is try to reason with him but if he don’t get it he don’t get it...
/r/MensRights28/02/19 02:14 PM
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I guess the mods thought it wasn’t trashy enough so they became the trash themselves (Even tho that woman is the definition of trash)
/r/MensRights28/02/19 02:11 PM
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I think I don’t wanna live like that and I don’t think my choice is illogical...
/r/MensRights27/02/19 01:25 PM
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So you are telling me you completely got rid of emotions in your life (or you are trying to) and just live purely of logical thinking?
/r/MensRights27/02/19 01:05 PM
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Does the same apply to gay man?
/r/MensRights27/02/19 01:00 PM
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But then that touches the “do not date” part, if you are ever going to interact with a person you love it has to be in some sort of relationship and in that message it says not to have any relationships with any women ever...
/r/MensRights27/02/19 12:10 AM
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I get most of those but do not marry? I’m a human being and I’m supposed to make children, if I find a great women who I expect to be a good wife why not wife her up? Even the Pence rule applies here since he is actually married...
/r/MensRights26/02/19 09:22 AM
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Weird how feminists hate the fact that so many words have men in them but then come up with words like manspreading and mansplaining... I guess it’s fine as long as word is meant to degrade males
/r/MensRights23/02/19 05:45 PM
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I simply do not believe you, please give a good birthday present to the person that made that to happen ;)
/r/MensRights23/02/19 05:39 PM
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Get out of here with your logic...
/r/MensRights19/02/19 12:47 PM
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Yeah sadly this lead to nowhere, have a good one ;)
/r/MensRights14/02/19 11:37 AM
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I did see your edit and that was my reply to it 60 out of 107 is 56% I am not “doubling down” just trying to explain to you, if I am wrong I’d appreciate it if you actually corrected me...
/r/MensRights14/02/19 09:32 AM
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Ok I will try one more time and that’s it, please don’t assume I’m talking down to you but I just don’t have time to sit here on reddit and explain to a person I don’t know something they can’t understand... You are right that there is more white mass shooters in the country than any other race, I never argued against this but actually for it when i said out of 100 mass shooters 56 would be white... This is a stupid statistic to have as your argument since you are not taking into account how muc…
/r/MensRights13/02/19 09:29 PM
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Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you go “much text, head hurts, let me just comment some stoopid shit” So let me try to explain it a lot simpler for you, in a room of 100 mass shooters 56 would be white when it should be 63 because in a room of 100 American citizens 63 would be white... Is that a bit easier to understand?
/r/MensRights13/02/19 08:05 PM
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There are statistics behind this question so I looked it up, https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/ , that’s 56% committed by white ppl then we take the demographics difference which is 63.7% of the population is white and we can clearly see you are less likely to commit a mass shooting if you are white and it’s just a racist stereotype and now I wonder what you will find when you look up crimes and blacks... The answer to the question “white perso…
/r/MensRights13/02/19 07:19 PM
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Asking about white previlege is even worse, a social studies kind of question that is not based on anything from the real world or statistical... the question is basically “you are white, how guilty are you for being born white” a useless question that is not based on anything... The question about blacks doing crimes is both based on the current real world statistics and can be useful to find out if black people know how much more likely they are to commit crimes just because they are black...
/r/MensRights13/02/19 06:09 PM
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Please tell me everybody (including the school, society, the government and main stream media) wouldn’t lose their shit if somebody gave out a survey on racial perception that asked “how likely are you to commit crime in your life (only answer if you marked black in the racial category question) Nobody would give a fuck about it being for responses to a paper they’re writing... the very next day there would be a BLM protest at the school that blocked the door only for white students and let othe…
/r/MensRights13/02/19 05:53 PM
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(Only answer if you marked married in the relationship status question)
/r/MensRights13/02/19 03:59 PM
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I think your comment highlights really well why this idea could have gotten into her head, men usually feel something for a reason (losing someone close, brakeup etc and women feel for this too) while often women just go nuts for no reason (“stop texting me” - “WHY ARENT YOU TEXTING ME?!”) and maybe ppl just got tired for feeling sympathy for this shit... Like I have female friend that cries to me every day when she has an argument with somebody and I got tired of it so I started ignoring her fe…
/r/MensRights13/02/19 03:54 PM
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This is sadly real...
/r/MensRights13/02/19 03:46 PM
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Thx for this ;)
/r/MensRights25/01/19 07:57 AM
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I used to be excited when I caught their double standards but it gets boring over time... It feels like these people got blinders on, I’m so happy I recovered from being a leftist sjw type person...
/r/MensRights16/01/19 03:08 PM
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Useless bs like this has no place here, no thank you... I’m fat and imperfect, I want to better myself
/r/MensRights02/01/19 03:27 PM
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Same thing
/r/MensRights12/12/18 07:24 AM
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Yes I agree with that part, however you well know that same feminist looking women would be enraged if somebody said something similar about female functionalities...
/r/MensRights11/12/18 08:46 AM
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That post is now deleted...
/r/MensRights09/12/18 04:56 PM
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This is disgusting and hard to read, it’s even more disgusting to imagine what’s in the heads of people who read this and think justice is being done... faith in humanity - a shit ton Holy fuck I just can’t, image your life being destroyed like that... put yourself in the place of the boy or the father who feels useless not being able to help his son... please if you are American and especially if you live close to Dallas spread the news!
/r/MensRights30/11/18 02:34 PM
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I’m gonna guess it’s either 9 or 11...
/r/MensRights30/11/18 12:45 PM
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I live in Spain, the power women have here is crazy...
/r/MensRights21/11/18 10:59 AM
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Are women in charge of that country or just cucks?
/r/MensRights21/11/18 10:58 AM
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Trust me man we 100% didn’t have it better back then, you’d get drafted while this female that overtook u in our timeline would be sitting at home cooking and looking after kids...
/r/MensRights21/11/18 10:51 AM
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Again I don’t think there is much wrong with believing that, we can’t tell men to not care for women and children... that’s just something we are biologically drawn to do and even if not I don’t believe it’s bad social construct... we can continue fighting for REAL equality while retaining all the good qualities a man has without saying that a man must have those quality ;)
/r/MensRights21/11/18 06:04 AM
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The CIA Truth-serum should be used in cases like this too 😂😂
/r/MensRights20/11/18 03:28 PM
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One guy on here that actually was talking like he was a MR activist was saying that men should stop acting like victims... smh this view is so engraved into people that even some of people on this sub believe it
/r/MensRights20/11/18 03:19 PM
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I watch for quiet some time quiet a bit but I’m not a member and I think your perception is not off at all
/r/MensRights20/11/18 02:45 PM
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This has been a very interesting and informative dialogue, thank you ;) I agree about the societal and individual issues differences and wish he would talk more about the societal side which I’m sure he would have a correct stance on...
/r/MensRights20/11/18 01:48 PM
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Yeah I do see that as well but I’m not at all against that approach, nothing wrong with teaching boys to be strong and independent Andover out a lot of advice to other men out there since he probably does know a thing or two about achieving success while at the same time defending from the devils that want to destroy men nowadays... but yeah again I feel like he goes against that cause it’s left wing retardness and not because he cares specifically about the MRM
/r/MensRights20/11/18 12:13 PM
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Does Crowder talk about men’s rights specifically? I heard him touch on the subjects that involve men’s rights but I don’t think I ever heard him even say those two words... Edit; Im a fucking retard, that’s literally where the article is coming from...
/r/MensRights20/11/18 07:41 AM
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It was very clearly sarcasm ;)
/r/MensRights19/11/18 05:04 PM
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Not hard to imagine a guy who is already fucked in life and pretty desperate over maybe his looks or some other issue instead of getting support on at least this day just clicks on this channel and decides to end it all after seeing this absolute fucking garbage... fck this bitch and her writers that prepared this shit
/r/MensRights19/11/18 05:04 PM
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Did you forget the /s or something?
/r/MensRights19/11/18 05:00 PM
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It’s so weird watch you point out yourself an issue men have and then dismiss it straight away, it’s like you are saying “men are the victim of feminist oppression......... NOT”
/r/MensRights19/11/18 10:24 AM
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“Are you victim blaming?! OMG fucking man pigs at it again” typical response I expect to get nowadays, yeah no biggie... yeah and it’s totally not like until mainstream recognition our movements is not gonna reach these people’s minds so we totally don’t need google to talk about International Mens Day and don’t need the top results that come up on google (a platform billiards of humans use) to not have blatant men hate. lmao at you telling men not feel like victims on a men’s rights sub where s…
/r/MensRights19/11/18 10:03 AM
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Well that article doesn’t even come up on the first page, all the top links provided by GOOGLE provide a similar definition to the one I used... second thing that appears is urban dictionary “Some beliefs of toxic masculinity is that: -interactions between men and women always has to be competitive and not cooperative.” what a fucking load of bs
/r/MensRights19/11/18 09:45 AM
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Wtf noooo you are so wrong!!! “Toxic masculinity. Connell argues that a salient feature of hegemonic masculinity is the use of "toxic" practices such as physical violence, which may serve to reinforce men's dominance over women in Western societies” (literally the first thing that came when I GOOGLED it) dude this word is used to create prejudice against men and never in order to help those of us that are vulnerable... toxic femininity doesn’t exist as a phrase and is never used since its sexist…
/r/MensRights19/11/18 09:35 AM
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Я тебе уже сказал что согласен с тобой дурочка... Ну че, тебе путешествовать по америке понравилось?
/r/MensRights19/11/18 02:08 AM
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Lmao I was asking her if she just yells what she wants wherever she wants like a granny because her reply just doesn’t make sense in this conversation...
/r/MensRights18/11/18 03:12 PM
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OP we need an answer here...
/r/MensRights18/11/18 02:49 PM
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Катя ну ты правду говоришь про исчезновение белых людей и миллиарды китайцев но я не пойму ты типо отвечала ему или просто как бабуля какая-то орешь что хочешь и где хочешь?
/r/MensRights18/11/18 02:48 PM
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Logic
/r/MensRights17/11/18 03:35 PM
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Just makes what we do here a bit more meaningful, thank you...
/r/MensRights16/11/18 12:53 PM
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I thought they were just preaching this shit and not practicing it , goddamn I was wrong... feminazis should be jailed for call on action to fellow brain dead bitches
/r/MensRights16/11/18 12:48 PM
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That account is a bot created by a woman that uses lines from a script to tweet
/r/MensRights04/11/18 10:53 AM
7

Please post the reply when you get it ;)
/r/MensRights03/11/18 11:54 PM
4

It’s still not perfect with Trump, imagine if Hillary would be president right now... we are fortunate she lost!
/r/MensRights02/11/18 08:14 PM
6

Me wooooman me no stooopid, u say me stooopid? U sexist!
/r/MensRights02/11/18 05:28 PM
0

Chechen?
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:14 AM
2

Snailboi doesn’t take any of this shit Cx
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:12 AM
10

Thanks, I’m very glad the movement is growing!
/r/MensRights28/10/18 01:52 AM
4

Thanks, I’ll try not to. Hopefully you yourself aren’t bothered about that event as much as you were at first...
/r/MensRights28/10/18 01:33 AM
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