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Inner Game Competitive-Bill-612/r/seduction05/11/24 09:12 AM
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Fundamentals Competitive-Bill-612/r/seduction05/07/22 12:54 PM
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Advanced (Certain Basic Skills Required!) Competitive-Bill-612/r/seduction08/07/22 09:10 AM
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ConversationCompetitive-Bill-612/r/seduction16/07/22 07:11 PM
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Hey bud, sry for the late reply but it sounds like your doing amazing progress. Happy for you. Hmm sounds like you have different reactions communicating with girls who you percieve lower vs equal/higher value. Remember 7-10’s are people too. Ive had 8-9’s who were more appreciative/happy with my approach vs girls who were less attractive with some of em shrugging me off. I guess some pointers for babes of the hotter variety would be: make a mental note not to overcompliment them, teasing and ne…
/r/seduction04/12/24 03:28 AM
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Thanks, youve given me alot to think about in terms of my long term goals. When I started it was to lead a better dating life and to get my dick wet if were being honest aha. Hmm ive never done challenges with intention it just happened (did get laid with purely google translate, same day lay, make out within an hr). but ill give it a go once Ive cleared my head. Appreciate the advice buddy
/r/seduction06/11/24 12:40 AM
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Initially the feeling of strengh did come from the newfound confidence, ample dating choices and a more interesting lifestyle. For a dude with a late start in dating and having rejections from women i deemed “the one” was such a godsend. Now it just all feels like notches under my belt, going through the motions of dates, escelations, and the fastest way to get their clothes off and not actually being present/enjoying the date. Yea plan on taking a breather off it based such good feedback I got.…
/r/seduction05/11/24 02:43 PM
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Yea the indiscriminate high body count probably stemmed from being a late bloomer throughout high school and uni. Felt a compulsion to make up for lost times.
/r/seduction05/11/24 10:51 AM
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Probs for the best. Having trouble letting it go as it was what defined my confidence/self esteem and what I was good at.
/r/seduction05/11/24 10:49 AM
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Hey there. Yea i do but no different from the amt I used to jerk off to. Probs catching up to me and all.
/r/seduction05/11/24 10:47 AM
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I guess initially i thought i was experiencing approach avoidance or was being too picky. But recently found even if I did i just felt my heart wasnt in it.
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:31 AM
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My guy fact of life is were all fcking pussies at the end of the day. It never goes away even after you got approaching down lock. But thats the fun part right, what we do with our fear is what counts. My biggest regret was not starting this during uni so much ample opportunities. Only word of advice being not to go hard on volume as you may be labelled as “that guy” try more situational/warm approaches.
/r/seduction25/10/24 02:09 AM
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Glad I could help. Time, directions, then move on to stop and go compliments to really help out with ur stacking. Embrace the suck, the first ones always gona be bad. Occasionally i like to put myself in terrifying scenarios like a group of women set, large crowds, restaurants just to shock myself and suddenly its not the end of the world even if i do get rejected.
/r/seduction24/10/24 05:20 AM
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Hey hey some pointers for approaching a moving set: - stop her at the front not directly but at a slight 45 degree angle (not too confronting and leaves her space to leave the interaction) - a wave and saying hey before stopping her (lets her know your coming over and avoids her being startled) - pre opener if you notice shes nervous (hey all good not selling you anything or hey real quick) - a nice friendly smile and good eye contact: goes a long way to her response. - commit within the first 3…
/r/seduction24/10/24 02:27 AM
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Huh rarely experienced this as Im in the camp that believe men and women cant be just mates. But i reckon based on a couple times it happened: just get her out for coffee with just u 2, just nut up and tell her but also be prepared for the possibility that the friendship will not remain the same or you may lose her entirely.
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:38 AM
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Hmm pretty tough to dhv till after she hooks and gets to know you. Like how would that work at the start? “Hey i just rolled out of a threesome/yacht/car and i thought your cute af” ahah jokes aside. But yea ur point on sexualizing is gold, but theres a general risk of overdoing it. Maybe its diff over on ur side of the pond, but where im from girls here are bit more conservative aside from the lingering handshakes, shoulders, hugs at the start. Sexual innuendos as well.
/r/seduction11/09/24 03:58 PM
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Aw man, we’ve all been there at one point. But really ask yourself, what are you interested in usually about her? Really ask yourself if this girl whom you honestly barely know is right for you. I guarantee you 9/10 its infatuation. The other 1/10 times you feel smth for her, your just gona fuck it up cause your just fantasising about this ideal version of her instead of getting to know her. I only say this because ive gone through this. It hurts and it sucks. Why are you caring for someone who …
/r/seduction11/09/24 03:49 PM
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Cold reads are usually at the beginning to get her invested and hooked. Im curious what would you propose as an alternative? Always eager to try new things out.
/r/seduction11/09/24 03:43 PM
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Some useful pointers ive learnt in field and through free yt videos: 1. Cold Reads: such an important gamechanger. Useful if u feel ur asking too many questions and feels like an interview. Instead of asking where shes from, you could guess her ethnicity based on her features, accents, etc. Teasing and misinterpratation: despite ur instincts the more safe your playing with the conversation the less likely anythings gona happen. Dont be afraid to tease her on her responses, the way shes dressed, …
/r/seduction11/09/24 12:27 PM
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Hey there buddy, it seems like theres already great pointers and advice. But would also like to add a more innergame advice whereby the next time a woman you find attractive walks past you ask urself if youd rather get a rejection or wondering if she couldve been someone amazing for you. Is the pain of living ur life the same way worst or is the pain of a 3 second rejection?
/r/seduction11/09/24 01:03 AM
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100% you start questioning whether love and a fulfilling relationship is even a thing. How the process of gaming can work on any girl, single, taken, married. But hey in an effort to change this chain to smth a lil optimistic: i reckon ppl shouldnt view cold approach as the solution to love, but rather a filter in which dating a variety of women could lead you to forming your idea on what u want in ur partner.
/r/seduction10/09/24 02:38 PM
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Hey there applauding the conscious steps your taking to improve your dating life. As someone whose done mostly direct openers, you can generally skip the questions and just go straight to telling her shes cute, but more importantly specify why you think shes cute (hint: focus less on her physical looks but on her outfit, vibe, the way she walks, her accessories) Also im not sure if you may be summarizing but this whole interaction feels like it could take 20 seconds, which is barely enough time …
/r/seduction10/09/24 03:08 AM
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Good recommendation brother. But i feel what the gurus advise applies more heavily to beginners who are starting out. Allocating a specific day and time to go pickup girls puts you in the mindset and having a clear objective. I can see beginners easily straying away from picking up due to aa and having the excuse of running an “errand”.
/r/seduction09/09/24 03:58 AM
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Hey hey, primarily a daygamer, but Ive dabbled a little with night game: - Talk to the first social group you see (dont matter if dudes or chicks u find unattractive. Smth along the lines of whats good to drink, hows the bar, light talk) - Energy is key, be outgoing, dance, socialize involving the group as most girls arent usually alone. - Im basically opening the same way i open via daygame just louder and more hyperactive. Hope my limited experience in this area helps. Godspeed.
/r/seduction08/06/24 01:22 PM
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Gotta give mad ups for a stoic quote. Hmm curious if stocism has helped other daygamers and in what way has it helped them.
/r/seduction02/11/22 10:58 AM
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I’ve had rejection rates of 80% but average around 50-40% every sesh. But out of those 2-3 dates when u get lucky with one of them and ur lying in bed with a shit eating grin, are u still even gonna remember those rejections?
/r/seduction20/10/22 06:06 PM
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Ive done both and can understand where OPs coming from. Having a wing makes it more fun, keeps u accountable to ur goals and generally its fun to socialise after ur sets without the overarching need to bang. That being said soloing it occasionally is a must to build up ur own skills and confidence so u can go it at alone whenever.
/r/seduction20/10/22 06:04 PM
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What is this Dr Phil?
/r/seduction20/10/22 06:01 PM
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Alternating weekly helps. Like maybe 1 week could be devoted to pure self improvement and the other debauchery. It does kill ur social momentum u could spread out a little too. Active wing of mine does at least 3 numbers a day no more no less.
/r/seduction20/10/22 06:01 PM
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Hi there. Scored two lays a few cheeky make out sesh and several instadates in the span of a couple weeks through daygame. Its actually pretty easy there. Focused mainly in the Siam Paragon area for heavy traffic. Was abit mentally scarred doing nightgame on account of a ladyboy experience so be careful.
/r/seduction17/10/22 08:02 PM
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Asking for directions is easy for me. Starting a conversation out of the blue not so much, that's why I designed the plan this way. Thanks for the encouragement my friend🙏
/r/seduction15/10/22 04:36 AM
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Dude Ive had wings who honestly who dont look half as good as you get laid. Tbh looks are subjective as hell. What looks good for u may not be good for me. (The exception being if ur chris hemsworth then yea everyone finds you hot) But the reality being cleaned groomed and being ur best ideal body shape is good enough. I feel ur issue is more on the social skills and queues part. Just go out there and hit on women. Its gona hurt, ur gona get rejected, women giving u weird looks, literally not ev…
/r/seduction14/10/22 05:19 PM
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Wow hearing ur depiction of what happen takes me back to the numerous convos over tinder ive had. Probably best to leave it but we all know ur still gonna sneak a shot in ahah which is fine. Torch tinder, bumble and any dating apps and go hit on the women irl.
/r/seduction14/10/22 05:07 PM
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Never had any exposure with indirect style game personally, but u can always open with cold reads or observational openers depending on where u are. Might require quick thinking. I generally stack a cold read on top of my opener. But its worth a shot.
/r/seduction14/10/22 05:03 PM
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Hey there if i may make a suggestion, reckon you can adjust month 2 and 3 to the following: Month 2 saying hi and asking for directions or a question, Month 3 saying hi and dropping them a compliment (nice shoes, bag, earring, etc) Jumping to convo after saying hi for 2 months feels like a big jump. Other then that its a good way to start daygame with social momentum. All the best in ur journey bud, excited for u to start as the first time being exposed to daygame was so exhilarating for me.
/r/seduction14/10/22 04:06 AM
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Asking a question probably makes u feel less intimidated or afraid as the “emotional investment” is lesser compared to directly saying hello. Like whose gona turn u down if u ask a question. Congratulations on ur first step buddy, hope to see u build ur social momentum by becoming more direct.
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:56 AM
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Probably wants a clean slate from the break up and you as the fuckbuddy became collateral damage because ur a lingering reminder of her past. You can talk to her about it but wouldnt expect a solid answer. Best move on.
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:25 PM
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Cheers, as a retired daygamer just happy to pass on whatever knowledge, regrets, failures or lessons I picked up.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:28 PM
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Send me a postcard 👌
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:07 PM
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Women that age crave fun sexual experiences. Had several encounters myself when I was still active, its actually easier to bring up the topic of sex and fun with them more so than younger woman. But i recommend doing the sexual escalation more directly in person and keep it more discreet over text.
/r/seduction13/10/22 02:37 PM
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Everyone peaks differently
/r/seduction13/10/22 01:38 PM
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It does get easier dating in ur mid to late 20s onwards due to ur own disposable income, own place and a more solid foundation for personality. But dont listen to that friend of urs to take a hiatus of talking to women. One of my biggest regrets was that I was a late bloomer and never got with any women throughout uni years. U literally have all that free time and energy to develop ur social skills that u need to get good with women. That way when u do hit ur 20s ur way ahead of the curve. Keep …
/r/seduction13/10/22 01:38 PM
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Looks are cliche and the pretty ones get that from just about any guy. Complimenting them on their passions, quirks, personality is the way to go. But that being said u can compliment them on a unique feature: smile, eyes, etc. just saying ur hot aint gona cut it
/r/seduction12/10/22 10:39 AM
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You miss a 100% of the shots you don’t take. Instead of fearing rejections you should fear the potential of the unknown. Would she have said yes to going a date with you? Having fun with you? You’d never know if u never tried. Normalising rejection is a must. The general perception of fear id get is if the women, her friends or general public would think. But the more u do it the more u realise people generally dont give a shit. Even if they do, what are the odds you’d bump into them again? Othe…
/r/seduction12/10/22 10:31 AM
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A charming smile and a twinkle in ur eyes works wonders. Try practicing infront of a mirror a few times. When you feel its good enough go out there and try it out by approaching a few women urself. Focus on letting ur overall body language convey ur emotions. Rehearse that a few times and nth else. Eventually you’ll learn to be more expressive.
/r/seduction12/10/22 10:24 AM
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Being digressing, silly and stupid is great. Shows you don’t take urself too seriously and that u dont care about winning her approval. But save the oversharing and rants to someone who actually cares. Ppl in general aren’t keen on hearing about ur rants or oversharing unless theres a way to keep it entertaining. But no one likes a whiner in general.
/r/seduction10/10/22 04:06 PM
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Good make out sesh but no lay 🤷
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:57 PM
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“Hey there, just wanted to say you look cute and i wanted to say hi” is my go to. But really hard to say as evident with all the liners from the other response. But the most important thing is less about what u say and how u say it. People tend to read more into ur body language, tonality, eye contact rather than ur words. If ur strong in all these aspects, u can say and get away with anything. Told a set “Great that solves the lube problem” after she offered me hand sanitiser after we shook han…
/r/seduction10/10/22 06:40 AM
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Not a fan of putting working on yourself before trying to get women. There is no horse before the cart situation here. I find guys who do that are mainly stalling from doing the actual work of getting women. Sure go to the gym, grind, hobbies but you can do both at the same time: getting women and working on yourself. They don’t both have to exist in a different vacuum.
/r/seduction10/10/22 06:34 AM
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Lmao saying hi is pretty much the start of the step. Im curious you seem so adament that a hi and a smile wouldnt work. What would be your go to method.
/r/seduction25/09/22 04:45 AM
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This happened twice. End this shit. U should have drawn a line somewhere cause she clearly did not respect you. I wouldve ended it on the first cause how sick was her mom she had to cancel u last min? Next time draw ur line earlier, it signals that ur not a complete pushover and women will be attracted to u for that. If something doesnt sit well with u, the waiting, leaving u hanging, the friends tagging along just say it.
/r/seduction25/09/22 04:38 AM
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Great start. Hope u stay on this. Its gona hurt, theres gona be rejections, blowouts or embarassing moments. Dont just look into successes too much. Not getting enough numbers, flakes, no dates. If ur a newbie doing this overtime will demotivate you. It will destroy ur ego and ur self confidence. But if u stick with it, learn from content on yt or get a good wing, i promise you the rewards are worth it. What will take it’s place is something stronger that will never break. Happy dinosaur humping…
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:34 PM
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Tell her u cosplayed as Varys from Got, but u still got ur schlong
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:26 PM
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How about spending ur time on girls not on the interwebs bruh.
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:23 PM
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Personally for me the sex with women became more notches in my belt rather than enjoying the sexual experience with women i was with. Sex was pretty much the same experience even with different women, ur done cuming and all u want them to do is leave. Currently in a happy relationship and found so much more depth and intimacy compared to casual dating where casual chats and talking to women lead to the end goal of banging. My daygamer alter ego finally took a backseat so my real self could final…
/r/seduction24/09/22 01:37 PM
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Dont know about no ovulation cycle or folicle phase, but I can be dominant without being arrogant or entitled. Yea buddy hot woman includes people too. Ive done the whole cocky bit but theres a happy medium to teasing and banter. But hey if it works, you do you man.
/r/seduction24/09/22 11:03 AM
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Whoa kind of a red flag with the narcissistic ego don’t u think? I thought the whole idea behind picking up is that it kills your ego initially and builds it into smth that can’t be broken by simple rejection. Sure self confidence and being sure of urself is great, but being entitled is just gona turn most people off.
/r/seduction24/09/22 10:56 AM
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Yes it would be never unless she mentions about it. Even then Id advise against it as it implies that you dont think ur worthy of going out with her.
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:55 AM
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No problem. Its perfectly normal to make these mistakes at ur age. I constantly tunnel visioned on a girl till i graduated uni. There was so many missed opportunities and girls now that my game is alot better. Getting to know more women definitely helps. It avoids ur headspace in putting her on a pedastal and makes u realize hey she aint so special after all, there are alot better women out there who could treat you as who u want to be treated. Best of luck out there.
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:48 AM
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Hmm u can try what my ex wing did and pull them out on instant dates there and then to overcome texting, but it all depends on logistics and availability. With texting I gave up trying to “work on texting” i figured id put less thought and effort into it and just be an all around funny, witty and charming anf it worked wonders for me. My texts didnt came off try hard and i was just being myself. Hmm the other usual tips being space ur replies, shorter texts, always remember texts is supposed to …
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:44 AM
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Hmm to me anything below an hour is pretty quick. But i digress. Also like i said how are u using texting tho? To build rapport? Get to know her? What do u guys talk abt
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:40 AM
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Try distancing yourself from her for a day or two. Meaning no communication at all. Come back with a cheeky line and not explain abour ur dissapearence at all unless asked. But i find the underlying problem is ur imposter syndrome. You were fine at first but the more u were with her the more u realized how she was attractive. Check in with urself and remind urself that ur the prize my man. She digged u for a reason initially. Spend the couple days of doing ur own and shit and being ur own person…
/r/seduction24/09/22 06:15 AM
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Our ancestors have been boinking it in the caves without any smart phones. Im sure you’ll be fine.
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:58 AM
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I learnt the hard way after repeated mistakes in high school and uni. The best cure for me was more women through daygaming. It made me realize the “love interest” u feel isnt so special and it makes u stop putting them on a pedastal. Other then that having a social life, developing ur own passions and interest. Just in general having a life that doesnt revolve around her would be great. I know its difficult when ur in that head space but the more u feel like u want her the more shes gonna run a…
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:40 AM
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Ah okay. What’s the range ur replying her tho? 2 hours - half a day? In a way the rule of texting is that its simply used to set the date, never to get to know each other. Also next time when ur asking her out dont ask her about her availability try smth like “I have abit of time tmr after class, would love to grab coffee so u can show me ur snaps in person” smth like that
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:37 AM
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The constant spam and snaps i reckon was what killed ur chances. Its hard, falling for someone and being so interested in them, but it just kills any interest if you become so readily available like that. Ive made so many mistakes like that back in high school or uni. My advice is walk away and torch this or if u really like this girl. Come back after a week of not texting her. Go find ur own shit to do and be ur own man again, or even better go hit on other babes and you’ll realize this chick a…
/r/seduction24/09/22 05:25 AM
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Would like to add it’s normal to blank out in a way. From the sound of it you seem like someone who is new to approach. It happens to the best of us. My advice is having a roadmap of where ur going with the convo stop her - compliment/cold read - invest - vibe - close. Having a few vanilla questions that apply to all women really helps too: what do usually get up for fun in ur free time, what do u have planned for day, whats got you in a good/bad mood. Once ur better its really easy to just riff…
/r/seduction24/09/22 04:44 AM
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Your right my bad wasnt reading the whole thing
/r/seduction23/09/22 05:34 PM
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Trust me walk down a street and in 10 mins youll find an even more amazing women. It never ends there buddy. Abundance
/r/seduction23/09/22 08:35 AM
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Never neglect the gatekeeper. Win her over to your side so she ends up picking up ur target for you; making fun of the set with her, observing their differences/similarities, how did they meet, etc.
/r/seduction20/09/22 08:27 AM
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Always assume the burden of conversation is on you if you want to talk to a girl your invested in buddy. The problem with most guys is that their asking usually pretty logical yes/no questions. Whereas women in general are more emotionally charged. Cold reads were a game changer for me in how to get women to speak more. Besides that try open ended questions, teasing and making fun of them (lightly of course). The more controversial you are the more you stand out from the yes mens hot women are u…
/r/seduction20/09/22 08:19 AM
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Look at the subtle girth and length. The tasteful thickness of it.
/r/seduction19/09/22 03:30 PM
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Having multiple texts and women to engage in. Thinking you are the prize instead of the other way around. Having enough self respect to walk away from women OP encounter.
/r/seduction19/09/22 01:28 AM
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Dicking them down for Jesus
/r/seduction18/09/22 08:04 PM
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Id also like to add that if you cant have fun and love yourself don’t expect others to feel the same way
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:34 PM
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Hi there, speaking from some who used to be actively dating as is recently in a happy relationship: 1) Kissing: Usually at the mid/end of a first date. Wouldnt be as often as a regular girl. You wana establish familiarity first by touch, sexually stimulated topics and then the kiss. 2) Pet Names: great idea to build rapport. Inside jokes are also great as it builds this idea of being close 3) Fling: Never unless they bring it up. Ur just a dude out to have fun and getting to know people. Leave i…
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:29 PM
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What else man. Tell us more, the cliffhanger is killing me.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:11 PM
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When you touch each others pp’s then you’ll know
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:10 PM
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Start your best in the opening convo. Observations about her pics, clothes, interest. The more outlandish/controversial the better.
/r/seduction18/09/22 07:09 PM
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Abundance makes you realise that there are a ton of women out there who would treat u so much better than what u think u currently deserve at that point
/r/seduction18/09/22 10:08 AM
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Get your AI to bang your date too while ur at it
/r/seduction17/09/22 10:32 AM
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Have a willingness to hear em out and be open to new topics and conversations. You don’t have to agree with everything they say but you don’t really need to discount what their saying as uninteresting. Different women u engage in will have different walks of life and experiences, which is what makes dating interesting.
/r/seduction17/09/22 06:59 AM
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Go to places where your skills and capabilities would excel: reading, games, sports. Physical gifts only get you so far. Ive met a couple dudes who could do really well with women but had no idea how to capitalise on it. Obviously build urself up into a good version of ur build, but dont the conversation. Being charming, witty and a good story teller are just as if not more important.
/r/seduction16/09/22 08:02 PM
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Next time someone gives you a choosing signal go for it. Whats the worse that could happen? You mistook interest for smth else? I wouldn’t harp on too much on choosing signals as you tend to get them from sets you generally wouldnt wanna approach. Plus it is way more rewarding to build attraction all by urself rather than having one already there. TLDR: Signals are good confidence boosters but your goal is to build attraction all on ur own.
/r/seduction16/09/22 07:57 PM
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He’s also on r/chubby and r/foreveralone yikes. If we spent as much time in the outside world maybe he wouldnt be so deluded. But hey each his own eh
/r/seduction16/09/22 07:37 PM
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Tell me about it. Took a quick skim of his history to see his comments mostly shitting on comments and thinking how the world should be in his POV. Dont waste ur breath on people who wont even help themselves.
/r/seduction16/09/22 07:30 PM
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Own it. Your a virgin, why bother hiding. You have standards could be one. But you can be honest about your journey and be proud of sucking. Feel free to even joke about it. Don’t let the imposter syndrome get to you. Shes clearly into u for a reason.
/r/seduction16/09/22 07:25 PM
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Your not even asking for something specific? What do u wana improve in seduction? Have you done your own research? Actually tried on your own and went out? Got help or coaching? Like what’re you getting at specifically? Im definitely game to help in any way i can. Sure some advice on this page is questionable or may not fit you. Then again your not really doing yourself any favours by bitching about the people on here and not going out and learning seduction on your own. I have zero interest to …
/r/seduction16/09/22 06:52 PM
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All the advice in the world isn’t gona save you unless you save yourself and put the work in both dating. That includes self betterment. Whose gona love you if you don’t even love yourself; your body, your goals. There is no magic advice or one word that gets a woman to open her clothes up for you. The criticism in this page is meant to wake you up from what is actually possible. If we were being all nice about it we’d just tell you fuck it just be yourself and love will come like, like what soc…
/r/seduction16/09/22 06:42 PM
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Yea complimenting and walking away without any expectation on em and urself to continue the convo.
/r/seduction14/09/22 07:08 PM
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Its great in game for introverts and people with high social anxiety. I rarely used it but on occasions where I feel less sociable, it does help get you in the mood. Of course even complimenting both the boys and girls would be great.
/r/seduction14/09/22 06:49 PM
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Swimming lessons by a new swimmer great stuff. Gonna have to agree with the rest of the group, this sounds like a telemarketing call script. Speaking as a retired daygamer in a happy relationship, the go to way has always been the London Daygame Model which adds structure without the minute details that makes u come off as robotic. Couple that with some basic social momentum techniques like drive by compliments and ur good to go. But hey if it works for you and its getting results, who cares eh.
/r/seduction14/09/22 08:54 AM
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Never really got a coach. I was self taught through YT videos and alot of experimenting. In my opinion nothing beats practical hands on experience ie actually just going out there and doing it. A coach can show u the way for a month or even 2, but sustainability is all on you. That being said, Ive had the good fortune of finding a few like minded individuals in the field and we constantly pushed each other, hype each other or laugh off any setbacks we have. I wouldve never gotten as good without…
/r/seduction09/09/22 05:03 PM
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Does this cloth smell funny?
/r/seduction05/09/22 12:26 PM
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Friendship that grows into a relationship is a trope. It be weird as hell if you guys already established yourself as mates and outta nowhere you suggest touching each other’s parts. People tend to categorise where you belong in their circle from the get go whether as potential love interest or mate. I never said anything about being weird. Could you elaborate further on innocence? Are you a child? In my experience no ones “truly innocent” And just like the guy below me we both have your interes…
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:59 AM
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Cold reads, teasing and story telling are your best friends. Drawn out interview questions hurt your chances. Instead of “what do you work as” you can say judging by your appearence, personality you’re perfect as a…” Tease her based on her answers or actions. Nothing wrong with calling her out in a fun cheeky way. If she asks you questions in return find a way to make it fun. Instead of “i work as…” find a creative way to answer her. Always remember the burden of convo is on you to shoulder if y…
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:39 AM
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May i ask the need to mention it unprompted? At this point when you just met a girl on which direction you guys are going? There is no need to mention ONS or long term commitments at the start when you guys just met and getting to know each other. Also not asking you be a pure unadulterated manwhore, but that women love a guy who can communicate their intent. Lastly if your interested in being honest what could be more honest than telling a girl you like her and would like to get to know her mor…
/r/seduction04/09/22 09:31 AM
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The problem here is that your interested with the idea of being in a long term relationship when instead you should be focusing on the woman that deserves your attention long term. My advice play the field a little and find someone who truly deserves you. As to the acting innocent bit, women love men who are “dangerous” but control their impulses. They abhor innocence in guys as it signals helplessness. Whats wrong with showing a girl that you have a dick (figuratively speaking). Your a man, so …
/r/seduction04/09/22 08:45 AM
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Wrap yourself up in bubble wrap
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:07 PM
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Somewhere at 1-2/10 numbers/30 approaches. Sometimes none. It varies. Currently in hiatus cause i found someone I wanted to be serious with. Honestly the only stats you need to focus on is yourself though. Fuck perfect stats and keep hitting the streets.
/r/seduction16/07/22 05:03 PM
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I mean yes to a certain extent, but if you get rejected 1000 times when does it become a you problem. Self reflection is necessary but not to a point it becomes self loathing and insecure. Self bettermant is always the goal minus all the shitty putting yourself down.
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:29 AM
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The Hoe be Gone Sleep System
/r/seduction09/07/22 02:58 AM
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Treat the girls your interested in the same way you treat the girls you’re not interested. You’re not an asshole for not showing interest, just an asshole for being selective ahah jokes jokes.
/r/seduction09/07/22 01:22 AM
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I dont think intentionally making someone feel like shit or good should be a constant state of mind. If it’s something you disagree with or feel strongly against, call her out. If it’s something you feel positive than say it. Negging should always come from your own principles rather than actively searching for a neg.
/r/seduction08/07/22 09:03 AM
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You like what you see? Ahah but god damn, just go talk to her already. Why are you here. This seems open and shut.
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:53 AM
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Reckon most the lads here going with clear/direct but be calibrated. Read her body language and comfort levels when your flirting with her.
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:51 AM
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Haha definitely is an adjustment. My colleagues and friends always looked at me as if i discovered fire when I approach. Its always funny seeing that reaction.
/r/seduction08/07/22 07:03 AM
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I’d like it if women were to strap themselves to the roof of my car begging em to take me home. Sadly we live in reality here. Also this is gona sound controversial but you don’t turn someone online. Plenty of dudes sliding into your babe’s dms saying some sexual lines. Keep it light and flirty, but save the ballsy sexual stuff in person.
/r/seduction07/07/22 02:42 PM
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Sounds to me like your mate is just surprised by your new lease in life. Hey so long as its coming from a place of love, you do you. Keep it up with the development champ.
/r/seduction07/07/22 02:38 PM
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No
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:04 PM
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Going out on a limb and say pass. Seen the same text on me phone too often to know how it plays out.
/r/seduction07/07/22 11:05 AM
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Do a freezeout. For 24-48 hours do not reply her. But also if you guys have been at it for 2 months then why not just be upfront and tell her what you want?
/r/seduction07/07/22 10:17 AM
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Prequel memes get the ladies wet. Tell her your the Senate as well. Guaranteed laid.
/r/seduction07/07/22 04:46 AM
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Tell her that you hate sand, and that its course and rough and irritating…
/r/seduction07/07/22 04:01 AM
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As far as channels to help out with seduction i’d recommend: James Marshall, Todd, AG Hayden. (Please do yourself a favour and check out Tom Torerro’s basic guide to daygame that man is a legend and pretty provides a rough guideline to anyone starting out) As for dating advice: none of these channels I quote can beat the lessons of rejections, blowouts and flakes. They are the best teachers and should not be looked at in a negative view. Enjoy the process and celebrate all your small victories a…
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:45 AM
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Im willing to wager this man’s still gona go thru with it
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:36 AM
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Also all the best in your relationship buddy.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:35 AM
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Honestly Im at a pretty similar point in my life besides the fact I do genuinely see a future with this girl Im seeing. Reckon it’s like riding a bike. You’re rusty but you’ll be on your bike in no time. As far as practice is concerned nothing wrong with a little harmless flirting with people near your office, social life or even strangers you talk to.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:34 AM
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This sounds wack bro. Women have cheated downwards numerous times. You can’t avoid the whole cheating bit. But as for connection, yea you always want to form smth meaningful: asking her questions that guys rarely ask, providing your insight and adding to your convo, challenging her, etc.
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:17 AM
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Wow with friends and colleagues like that who needs enemies. I think the glowing issue is that before even going after women why don’t you do an assessment in ur life. These toxic people are the ones holding u down. You need a better support system. Your worth it my man. I respect the grind of going out there despite all the rejection and negativity. Yes realistically there are probably alot you have to work on from the sound of it. My advice would probably be to get a coach to sharpen your game…
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:13 AM
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In the case of 2 sets, just a few things in mind: 1) Comment on how similar or different they look: in terms of dress/personality- maybe one of them is introverted the other is extroverted. 2) Get your target’s friend to be ur wing: ask her so what do u reckon do u think i should go out eith so and so. U guys seem to know each other well 3) Tease target with her friend 4) Save the seduction for the target. Keep it friendly with the friend to avoid confusion. Godspeed
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:08 AM
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Not necessarily, if OP is upfront about it don’t see why that can’t happen. And don’t beat urself up, missed opportunities happens to the best of us. When you see her again at least u guys had a moment with the stuck elevator. Could be cheeky and go “Hey it’s my cellmate” when you see her.
/r/seduction07/07/22 12:01 AM
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Ask her out for lunch platonically, eventually graduate that to grabbing a drink after work. Make your move there.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:56 PM
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Don’t ask bro. Just go in for it. If she genuinely doesn’t want it she will turn you down regardless.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:46 PM
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Offering an alternative from bars/clubs: 1) Your in a school: Aren’t there different faculties whereby the womenfolk would be more abundant? 2) Malls/Central places where people mostly gather 3) Parks 4) Small town community: can’t help you there you need to move buddy 5) Final note: Stay away from your incel mates. You need a clean mental headspace to approach this. If they support you kudos. But they will be a main blocker in your transformation into a social butterfly. Happy dinosaur humping
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:15 PM
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Ahah no shame in wanting a second helping, we’ve all been there.
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:09 PM
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The weirdest approaches I’ve done so far: 1) I have literally approached a woman sitting in her car at a rest stop 2) Parking my car abruptly cause i saw a hottie walking and approached her on foot 3) Approached a woman in the middle of the night 4) My wing literally hollered at a couple of women while we were seated and brought the set to the table. You can pretty much shoot your shot anywhere. Just have a disarming smile and a pre opener like “Hey there! Don’t mean to startle you” and you’ll b…
/r/seduction06/07/22 05:01 PM
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Soooo your suggesting to OP besides bars or clubs he is not allowed to talk to the opposite sex at all? What happens if the kind of girls OP wants to meet don’t go to bars or clubs? Not everyone enjoys doof music and gnarly alcohol breath. You probably had some bad experience from cold approaches which hey fair enough it happens. But saying approaching a girl in bars or clubs to be the only way is pretty narrow minded.
/r/seduction06/07/22 10:13 AM
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Well I believe in the same principle as you. But i believe dude above is talking about cold reads and observations. Which yea i do that as well, i mean you can extend to think why you think she’s cute (Her style reminds you of a character, actress, animal, her behaviour, what shes doing, her mood)
/r/seduction06/07/22 10:06 AM
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No worries my man. It also helps to be a great story teller. Instead of it ending “I work as a janitor” make it interesting: tell her about any funny stories in your work place or a crisis you were needed.
/r/seduction06/07/22 09:58 AM
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I think you know the answer yourself instead of asking a bunch of random strangers on reddit. That being said nothing wrong with playing the field (unless of course you want to be honest with your lady friend then yea go ahead and tell her at this point in time your casually dating) This gives you a broader view. (You may either realise that you discovered a gem in said lady friend or you found someone with the same qualities only your attracted to her) It’s a win win for you.
/r/seduction06/07/22 09:29 AM
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Ah okay in that case kino escalation is kinda like a ladder: you wana climb your way from a friendly touch to something about more sexual: touch her hand lightly when she makes a joke- gently touch the small of her back when ur opening the door for her- touching any tats/ringa/bracelets- holding her hand- hug - make out- etc. (All of this of course while recieving body language feedback from ur date) Also verbal escalation along with kino can be more potent as well.
/r/seduction06/07/22 08:17 AM
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To quote the great God Father “You can act like a man! Whats the matter with you. What should i do 😫?” You guys seem young so i wouldn’t bother. You’ll probably be back here in a few months with another crush. Its trial and error buddy. Play the field and date around. There are plenty of “The Ones” around man.
/r/seduction06/07/22 08:09 AM
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I didn’t say it doesnt work. What I mean is the sheer competition and sense of entitlement from women on tinder makes it not worthwhile for the Avg Joe. Several years back i had a girl i matched with on tinder and we were talking for awhile, she told me that some guy approached her and pretty much mumbled that she was adorable and yknow what? She outright told me that guy has more of a shot on going out with her than anyone on tinder. Its just my opinion that OP’s time is better spent out there.…
/r/seduction06/07/22 08:02 AM
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For real every single IOI was there yet champ OP missed it. Oh well don’t blame him we’ve all been clueless idiots at some point.
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:55 AM
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Your first mistake is being on tinder
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:51 AM
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Bitches be crazy. Had one that told me we weren’t gona work cause our horoscopes weren’t compatible yet she still wanted to try.
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:38 AM
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Yes i do mean boundaries as to what you would consider out of line or at your expense. Its costed me a few times. But yea its fine to be a little fun and outgoing but not go overboard. On the flipside when something silly or funny does happen like you tripped and fell or something spills dont fluster, just laugh about it (oh god I’m falling for you already this is way too early)
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:33 AM
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Why do you hate effort? In your field of work/study/anything important you do you put in the effort. Why should romance and dating be any different? Fuck that stigma of try hard. This is where your looks probably work against you as you had it way too easy in your college years. Just practice on going outta your comfort zone start by talking to strangers/asking for direction guys or girls, then you go to just brief compliments and walking off. Then when you feel comfortable build a topic from th…
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:27 AM
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Have fun but always have a boundary/line.
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:15 AM
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Pretty sure your chances are shot from the start cause yall started out as friends. Before kino is even addressed you should fix that first. In the first place is she aware you have a thing for her? Kino escelation on someone who percieves you as a mate is pretty messed up and will likely cause more confusion. Lastly to answer your question i learnt with women there is no such thing as going fast or slow. Escalation both physical and verbal is always encouraged as it gives you a man-woman intera…
/r/seduction06/07/22 06:14 AM
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Hmm duly noted. I tend to be pretty direct in my approaches. But I have dabbled in opening to your environment which lead to closing but was never my sole focus. Plus i am from a country where men never approach women out in the day, so even a basic opener gets them pretty interested. Thank you for your input though! Will dabble around with this one.
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:32 AM
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I am curious how do you usually go about with your opener. Cause honestly i do the same thing OP is doing, but i emphasise less on what I say and how it’s said. Strong body language, twinkling eyes and intonation really helps. Would love to hear some examples of how you open to the environment (Maybe your waiting for a long queue and you joke to her about it?)
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:21 AM
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I just googled the breed. My man you have the world’s greatest wingman, use it.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:36 AM
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You could always ask her out for lunch one day and then really test out your theory then? Maybe something like “Hey I just wana say your smile really helped me out of a rough week, lets grab a bite soon”
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:59 AM
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Also would like to add by being so accessible and giving her so many chances.
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:42 PM
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Well if you are a shy guy by preference that’s cool. But by labelling yourself like that, your basically putting yourself in a box. Being sociable can be trained, if you just go out there with some risk: blowouts, rejections, awakward moments are all learning points for you to socialise better. Also women love the initiative, you gotta make the first move when your asking her out. Also emphasis on the initiative when you get her on a date. Remember your not hanging out with your mate here, be bo…
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:36 PM
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I would also like to add that if you need to interact with her on a daily basis best not to try. Why bother hitting on the women in your workplace when there’s probably someone hotter probably wandering around the mall or beyond said mall. Go hit on them.
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:27 PM
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Your young buddy. Its not out of the ordinary to be a hopeless romantic at your age. Geez I did some pretty questionable shit all in the pursuit of love. You’ll find someone later on in life. In the meantim whats wrong with making a little mistakes on the way and date around a little man. At 17, you got plenty of time to get hitched. Go enjoy your life and stop thinking about this chick (besides, i give it a week before you find someone else you’re swooning for)
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:16 PM
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Do you really have to date in your workplace though? Thats a pretty slippery slope of shitting where you eat. Im sure there are beautiful woman outside of work who probably do not care about your career. Moreover, you are not your job or your khakis! (Don’t put yourself down too much, be exciting/passionate- ie when your talking about your job to your lady friends). Could it also be a possibility those women in yout work are writing you off because you yourself wrote yourself off? Be proud my gu…
/r/seduction05/07/22 09:09 PM
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Tell me about it; if you get something like a Pomeranian or a Maltese, dem girls will be opening you instead.
/r/seduction05/07/22 08:58 PM
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Whoops misread your original comment. I wasn’t bringing him down. He’s playing the field and OP is asking what this gentlemen is up to.
/r/seduction05/07/22 04:58 PM
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Congrats you are most definitely his back up and he’s stringing you along in case his other catches bail out. Don’t take that shit queen.
/r/seduction05/07/22 04:19 PM
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Thanks the carpets match the drapes 😉
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:44 PM
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Your 22, and your single. Good god my man, get out there and start spreading your seed in the best college town in America. Start slow, socialise and have fun. Walk your dog around, etc. Time is on your side champ.
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:43 PM
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Damn bro poor you. Ahah but on a serious do you wana date this girl? Cause the only thing i got out of your post about her personality is she got two big personalities. I mean before you go asking for a relationship why don’t you find out more about her and what she wants? Nothing but love brother. Hope you find that special someone out there.
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:38 PM
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I’ve walked down this path of reasoning and the answer is even they fucking have no clue why they cut you off: sometimes it has a basis and sometimes it makes no fucking sense. Most likely answer she found some other guy on tinder. Also any reason why u guys went on 4 dates and only cuddled?
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:22 PM
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I would also like to add that you fucking got this my man. Nail that third date king.
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:16 PM
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Dude, she is asking you out on a third date, she obviously likes you. (As referenced by the comment above) I mean we all get nervous on dates my guy, but you gotta escalate. Like imagine from a girl’s POV and a guy jumps straight into a makeout without any prior actions. Start slow: when she cracks a joke laugh and touch her arm, say her nails/tats look good and feel em, touch the small of her back when you open the door for her, hold her hand, hug her and then make out. See how it kinda works l…
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:16 PM
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It could be a few factors; first date tipsy make out sesh and she probably regretted it and is not putting anything out on the 2nd, is the most likelier answer. Moreover, are you escalating? Physical touch, bit of flirting, talking about sexual topics.
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:06 PM
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Grow a pair and talk to her and her friends, what you’re experiencing right now is Approach Anxiety, which all beginners and i can assure you advanced Cassanovas have as well. Honestly, what is the worse that can happen? She turns you down or you misunderstood? Woohoo you can probably walk down a couple of blocks and see another hottie. Beauty is common but you are not, king. 🎩
/r/seduction05/07/22 01:59 PM
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Start with Tom Torrero’s Basic Guide to Daygame if your struggling with starting. You need abit of structure before you start out. Relax, you can’t be smooth all the time. Focus on some scripted lines and some topics of convo before you get good. Socialising is like a muscle, the more you work on it the better you get. Lastly, based on your story it sounded like your opener seems so indirect and vague. Why not just start with a direct opener.
/r/seduction05/07/22 11:27 AM
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Godspeed my guy. Getting into it at the start is such a fresh feeling. Any small victories like numbers or touching her hand is such a big win. Don’t get me started on instadates when i first had that i was creaming myself at the possibilty. Go out there and do the approaches, date around for abit, and always remember its called daygame not daywork. Have fun and cherish every small moment/victory you have in your sets.
/r/seduction05/07/22 11:11 AM
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Counterproductive but the less you think the better. 1) The overthinking and constant adjustments to your text trying to come up with something funny/flirty comes off too try hard. 2) If the set is solid in person texting makes it so much easier 3) Keep it light and funny 4) Last but not least. You can do everything right and still get flaked or you could fuck up so badly and still get a date. Remember dating involves 2 people; you cant control the variable of your target, only yourself
/r/seduction05/07/22 10:59 AM
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Yeap their panties are definitely getting wet. The competition on social media is intense. Get off it and show interest to that person directly. Complimenting someone irl hits different than 20 other spams your girl is likely getting from various thirsty dudes.
/r/seduction05/07/22 10:49 AM
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