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Some men do take this mindset. They're usually narcs, or assholes. Most men early on look at the humanistic traits of women as places of attraction: her mind and body, and her character (in a literature sense). They aren't attracted to provisions as they are told and shown that women providing things to them makes them less than, and women will punish that desire. If you were to compare it, it's the male equivalent to a Disney fairytale, that a woman of fiction with all the attributes they want …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:23 PM
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This is beyond liking sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:43 PM
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You were so enticed by getting regular sex that you went and got married. That's addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:42 PM
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A luxury apartment in any major city is $2.5k+/month in rent or ~$1 - 2mil if you buy. A large house in any wealthy suburb or city is several million. This is incorrect. Again, I live in Atlanta. My rent is far less than that, it's $1400 a month. Many major cities have rents similar to this for high scale apartments. And I don't live in a letterbox, it's a very nice 4 bedroom/4 bathroom apartment in the middle of the city. You can buy a BMW but you wouldn’t be able to afford a Model X Sure you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:41 PM
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All the things that he does for you that makes up your attraction map. Things that you try and construe as his character, but in reality has nothing to do with him as a person. Men could be replaced by robots and coded to do these exact things and you, and every other heterosexual woman wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:34 PM
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No you don't. You value the provisions he brings to you. You don't give a shit what kind of person he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:28 PM
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Yes but uniquely. I'm ace by force, as in I force myself to be. I'd rather die than have to engage with another woman ever again
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:27 PM
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That's why I said under this mindset. I don't agree with it because of what you said. I think sex is disgusting, many men do. And women don't value men, they value male provisioning. So of course there's going to be a lot of sex under that valuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:26 PM
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I'm a man and find sex absolutely disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:22 PM
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Women treat alphas "well" and treat betas worse under this mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:22 PM
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You obviously have no idea how money works or what things cost if you think anyone would live a luxurious lifestyle on $60k With 60k, you can travel to nice places, have a luxury car, get a pretty big house, and dine on high quality food, as well as never worry about buying entertainment. For a year I actually tried it after learning about it in courses in college, in a finance course that I took during the summer, and I didn't actually have to adjust my lifestyle at all, I just had to spend mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:19 PM
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Reverence of humanistic qualities and humanitarian acts equalized for gender. You cannot treat me like a robot that caters to your needs and desires but put asterisks to do the same in return, I expect such. Similarly, you can't find attraction in what I do for you, you have to find my character itself (character in a literature sense) attractive. Women can't do the above, the literal bare minimum. Women find men attractive after objectifying them. I like to call it the birkin effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:11 PM
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Y'all make houses hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:04 PM
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Y'all are addicted to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:03 PM
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Oh, I'm not looking. I came to the conclusion that in reality, either no woman exists with this criteria (what I'm going with), or that they are so rare that there's zero point in looking, as chances are I'll just get wave after wave of abuse. It's much easier to simply keep women away from me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:30 PM
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I'm talking in general. All women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:27 PM
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but why does that mean HVM are assholes? I never said that. I stated that they are so often assholes, and that this is often perception. And tbh you saying that them getting hurt is good retribution is assholish itself. As long as you recognize that. I don't care. If every woman sees me as a piece of shit and stays away that'll be great, then I won't have to be in fear anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:26 PM
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I couldn't help but smile watching this. She's a Bully, and got what she deserved.
/r/AntiFeminists12/03/22 07:42 AM
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I thought I made it quite clear: women chasing after these guys only to get continuously hurt by said guys is in my eyes retribution for the pain and suffering women have put me and other men through.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:16 AM
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No one thinks $60k and above is wealthy The lifestyle a single male can have at a 60k plus is luxurious enough that people would assume that he is wealthy. This is especially true if this man invests properly. You are focusing on the money, not what comes from that amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:14 AM
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Yea nah, that's not what most people consider as wealthy, that's... Like ultra wealthy. Most people think of wealthy as above the 60k income bracket. The whole six figures meme. EDIT: No, I was curious about your question. I find that perpetually rich people have different opinions than regular civilians on what rich is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:13 AM
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Define wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:58 AM
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It doesn't matter if they actually are. Women being pained by the experience of dealing with what they claim to want is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:57 AM
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I demand, to even entertain the thought of starting any form of relationship with a woman, that she sees me as a human, is attracted to my humanity, and treats me with care because of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 05:56 AM
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That's exactly what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:54 PM
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It's physically impossible to have judged enough women to make the assessment that the only thing literally all of them provide is abuse. Thousands is enough. And even if you have met literally every woman on earth, guess what - millions of new ones are born every day I'm not waiting with dread for them to grow up and be the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:54 PM
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For not giving you what you want exactly when you want it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:53 PM
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Please explain to me why I should engage with women when they only provide abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:05 PM
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I literally got banned here and suspended because I pointed out that women not only don't care about men, they get so angry and throw out all of their principles when men paint them as bad in any way shape or form, and it was by a woman. They don't hesitate to prove this mindset correctly. Luckily, I have no desire to engage with women, so I don't give a fuck how they view me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:02 PM
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So you can't? Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:42 PM
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I refuse to let another woman treat me as if I'm some random object.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:41 PM
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And those men you and every other woman around them, along with many men shame them for it. Men are fighting against the urges now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:39 PM
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You literally stated that men are not wired to want to provide for their family without asking. For you to day this, you have to be ignorant on the male experience in general, as most men globally are made to think this way, usually by women beating into them that they have to provide, as well as anticipate what women will need do be deemed worthy of manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 09:13 PM
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I would actually be interested in having one of these because I know that it wouldn't abuse me, and I'd never have to have sex with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:59 PM
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You don't need to. If you want to present a woman that isn't a piece of shit, feel free
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:53 PM
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Why would I interact with a woman hoping for any positivity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:52 PM
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That last bit made me feel better than I had all day, unironically. This is partly why men have generally gained rage over the years. You don't even realize how objectifying you are being towards men. You see us as a trophy, a collectable with a ranking. Frankly, I'm glad that "high value men" are so often pieces of shit, it's great for them to be as retribution. This state of affairs will not change either. There is going to be no more happiness as time passes because y'all refuse to see men as…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:48 PM
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I'm in a unique position as my requirements to deal with a woman is so rare yet the requirements themselves should be damn near universal. I think many men fit my stance, they just aren't willing to cut off women. Nah, I think that the anger comes from men reacting to women, and women being angry that men won't put up with their bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:43 PM
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And then said men seemed surprised that they’re attracting women who are using them for their resources. It's almost like that's what many men have been taught since birth by women to do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:39 PM
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This screams "I don't know anything about men".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:36 PM
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Given that we are practically at wartime, I don't believe that any politician would bite, but I'll file in just in case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/22 01:57 AM
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This is always been my issue. So often when selective service is brought up that these same people will argue "Oh yea, I'd rather that the draft just go away entirely". Yet, when MRA's are fighting constantly to have these things repealed, what do they do? Nothing. Or they fight against MRA's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 11:06 PM
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That's the day when the elites give up their capital slaves for robots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/22 11:02 PM
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She is a terrible person, I'd rather not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:48 PM
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And thus you, and many others, will push feverously to be able to engage in these mindsets and behaviors that are objectively harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:47 PM
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Thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:42 PM
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Those men have value to those women in some way, shape, or form. The second they don't, worthless, will be abandoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:41 PM
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I was raped once, and was groped, almost raped again, both by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:39 PM
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This, along with a feverous defense of their illusion is what I'm getting at yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:38 PM
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I'd prefer somewhere with a bit more gravity. Mars might be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:35 PM
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Thank you for proving my point. I'm the bad guy because I pointed to women having an aspect you deemed bad. I didn't do anything actually harmful to anyone, and you go to insulting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:33 PM
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Going outside is how I was routinely abused by women in my youth. I'll pass, being indoors is safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:30 PM
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Them being human doesn't change the fact that they are fundamentally different from men in a social sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:29 PM
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Lower marriage rates, lower birth rates. Men are not getting into relationships as much anymore, and if they are, it's later in life. Men are checking out of society in general, and in a variety of ways, many in which society would deem "harmful" (generally ways in which capital is actively removed from the economy, such as them becoming bachelors who hardly ever leaves their home, or committing suicide). Men have over the last 10 years become disinterested in going to university, and college, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:29 PM
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Because it's framed negatively. If I stated "Women are very good at constructing optimal lives for themselves, in a relationship or otherwise" they wouldn't bat an eye, as it ignores the reality of how women go about constructing that reality for themselves. As long as you don't mention them exploiting, beating, cheating, raping, or harassing their way to paradise, they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:23 PM
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That's because this is a lie. I've yet to meet a single woman who can disprove this. I don't even see why any would try, it's advantageous for women to not care about men as humans. This is unlike men, where if people even suspect you to not care about women as humans, you'll be ostracized. I point to incels, no matter what mindset the incel actually has. ​ If I said men dont care about women as humans would you stay quiet? Either I would say what I just stated, or I wouldn't care enough to resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:20 PM
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This is because for centuries, women have been using the idea of height = health = status, so if a man feels relatively short, he might feel like he's being judged as unhealthy and of low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:13 PM
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Then why comment on what men like? This is just strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:10 PM
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I think raising your child can be very rewarding. I'll pass Having family in old age is worth a lot. I'll kill myself atp. Problem solved. Men tend to calm down, take less risks, care more about their health, develop better habits, find purpose/meaning in life. Because they have to worry about a woman child and actual children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:59 PM
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Example of a woman who doesn't know what men like
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:51 PM
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And yet y'all keep doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:39 PM
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Yes, because men will never stand up to the abuse women put out. Pussy and fake validation is too enticing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:08 AM
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Simply start telling women no en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:01 PM
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Agreed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 10:22 PM
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Well, I see that you’re not open to the possibility that you are wrong Incorrect, you simply haven't showcased anything that would bring me pause. nor in trying new things You're assuming that I haven't done said things, or that they would even be effective (they wouldn't be). nor are you trying to understand me. I understand you. I'm simply saying that you are wrong. You completely, and intentionally miss the point by trying to take something metaphorical and make it technical. Actually I carri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:07 PM
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I was not directly addressing the study. This has been long known throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:28 PM
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I say conservative because they passionately fight for themselves to maintain this ability to shame people that they disagree with. Authoritarian fits too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 09:26 PM
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You can stop with this memetastic level of nihilism. The reality is you’re sad and lonely and trying to feel better about your situation. Me stating the reality that women don't care about men as humans is not nihilism. It's simply reality. I don't need drugs or a trip to confirm this. Water itself isn't wet, it makes things wet. Wetness is the ability for a liquid to bond in an immersive manner to other objects, or to cover a surface in said liquid and not bond at all. Water can't do either to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:23 PM
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However woman (and anyone) are allowed to say no for any reason they want. Men are not allowed to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:15 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:13 PM
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This is more so because you never actually loved him. You appreciated greatly the things he provided to you. Women don't have the capability to love men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:04 PM
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Love is people confusing high levels of attraction. Actual love between a man and a woman isn't possible. I don't know if women can love each other, homosexual men probably have the highest chance of such.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:00 PM
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These people are conservatives in disguise. Let's be real here: People like this are perfectly okay with this state of affairs. They only have an issue with these state of affairs turning on them and making them a target of abuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 07:53 PM
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There's several dozen links that I can provide to showcase this. Best way to is either read through what the empathy gap is. I also explain this in detail in my book, if you want a copy I can send you it in PDF form.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:21 PM
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In regards to what? My idea that women don't care about men as humans has tons of data to showcase this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:15 PM
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Yes, people exploit and abandon introverts, especially male introverts. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:11 PM
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This is an absurdly extreme case that has little to do with the AF/BB idea
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:10 PM
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But yeah, I think the few people that push this vastly underestimate the amount of money and effort it takes to move abroad. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:03 PM
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If that was the case, this would have ended 50 years ago at least. It hasn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/22 01:02 PM
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Yes, I saw this looking through someone who posted on diabla
/r/AntiFeminists27/02/22 06:31 AM
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I must add too, that the sub in question that these comments are from actively has tried getting MRA/anti-feminist subs banned, including this one. They actively support silencing groups that do exactly what they are claiming men don't do. You can't make up this kind of irony.
/r/AntiFeminists27/02/22 04:55 AM
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Techniques based in psychoanalysis to attract people, typically for sex or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:49 AM
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Shocker, society sees men in the female lens
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:48 AM
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Women get mad at anything they Steve as a slight against their character, as they view themselves as being perfect individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:46 AM
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You don't. Avoid women.
/r/AntiFeminists27/02/22 03:57 AM
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No it's not. It would help if people actually studied it. It's career suicide to do it though, hence no one does it. You would have to do generational studies accounting for socioeconomic and health factors. That kind of study would be illegal pretty much everywhere on the planet. What reason do you have to believe this? For the reason above. You haven't actually thought this through have you? At surface level, race and iq appear to be strongly correlated Because you're ignoring the hundreds of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/22 11:56 AM
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Zelenskyy would beat the brakes off Putin, he is actually in the trenches.
/r/AntiFeminists26/02/22 11:50 AM
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Generalizations aren't bad unless they are correct. Nobody will bat an eye if you say something like "women are beautiful"
/r/AntiFeminists26/02/22 11:49 AM
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No, I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:48 AM
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I don't hate women, more so I'm afraid of women. Justifiably so I might add.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:30 AM
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Women being more concerned with looking bad rather than not being rapists, beaters, and manipulators being rampant amongst their population makes me have zero sympathy. If they don't wish to look bad, they can change. But they won't, they don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:40 PM
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For instance, people believe that I'm being "hateful to women" for pointing out that women generally don't care about men as humans. Men are shields and purses to women. From there, they form the basis of their interactions with men. Pointing this out, and the quite often negative effects that comes from this, or how I've been affected by such is deemed hateful, despite me never stating that this makes women objectively bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 11:09 PM
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ah, another Nazi-tier fascist.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 08:08 PM
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This is an absurd mix of strawmanning and conflation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:07 PM
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If he hasn't purged his history, you can read it
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 08:05 PM
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Tbh I'd rather be called an incel and ignored. This rhetoric is more offensive.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 08:05 PM
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It's 2022 and conservative religious doesn't mean southern or white. Grow up and stop reading leftist propaganda. Maybe listen to Thomas Sowell or someone sane. This is full of deflection. And no it's not your fault, but those two things are not related. This excessive victim mentality will get you nowhere , just deeper into resentment and constant anger. Seek help for your issues and for Pete's sake stop regurgitating leftist nonsense. Again, full of deflection. This commentary is no better tha…
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 06:40 PM
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Stop saying nonsense please. It's nonsense that religious southern white women were the primary reason why black men were lynched? People really do bring misery to themselves it's unbelievable... Ah, so it's my fault that I got beaten, harassed, exploited, and raped.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 06:30 PM
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He was very clearly taking things down that was not what he claimed, and then blanket using "hate" as a pretext. Very clear powertripping
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 06:28 PM
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biological traits are not necessarily superficial. I think lots of personality traits are biological. They last a long time I was not referring to neurological states of being, simply base biological factors around attractive features. Black pill thinking. And okay, I was right, my statement stands. I'm not a fucking purse, I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:24 PM
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That's because you all don't like conservative religious women They are even worse, as they very often try very hard to cover up their bad behavior. That's how my people were lynched constantly last century. Your loss. Enjoy the psychos. What part of "I'll pass" don't you understand? I'm not going for any woman.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 06:20 PM
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I gave it several decades.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 06:17 PM
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Love doesn't exist, so sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:16 PM
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This is an extremely poorly worded question. I assume you mean to be talking about biological and socioeconomic factors, in which case that's what women seek out in the first place for attraction. It's one of the many reasons why I'm not interested in having a relationship with a woman in the first place. I'm not a fucking purse. I'm a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:38 PM
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The draft is already a mechanism in place for men in most western countries via something akin to the selective service act. The idea that the draft was berid of after Vietnam is a lie women tell to pretend like men don't have their lives bonded at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:30 PM
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It's not hard to figure out women. People just reject reality of women because it's "hate speech".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:26 PM
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I've never met such. I'll pass.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 05:24 PM
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Sorry bud.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/22 05:24 PM
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Tbh that's not even the bad part. It's being revictimized by women with power that's the issue for me.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 02:32 PM
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It's much easier for women to argue against what they think is you than actually you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:31 PM
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Victim selection. And people wonder why I intentionally stay away from women.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 02:29 PM
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What do you think the words smart and handsome mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:44 AM
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This is an incorrect assumption
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 07:46 AM
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This is still too much pandering.
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 07:46 AM
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I don't see why I can't imagine being violated by a woman seeing as it's already happened to me multiple times
/r/AntiFeminists25/02/22 07:44 AM
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"But the draft won't happen!!!!111!1!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/22 07:24 AM
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For a lot of women I don’t think it’s just the idea of paying for sex. That is clearly not true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 07:21 AM
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I described the pressure women put on men. That trope is a historical picture men see when they imagine what kind of pressures women put on them to be to be desired. If you're going to as a woman tell men what women make them feel, then we have nothing to discuss. That's frankly just absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:18 PM
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"hit dogs hollar" huh? Yea, I'm done with you. I'm not going to be accused by a person belonging to a group that can't own up to the fact that it harbors and protects rapists. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:15 PM
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1: Why do women without fail always resort to lying about rape, despite the truth being present for well over a decade? 2: How dare you imply that I'm some kind of a rapist? I was violated twice by your kind. I've never done such, and never will. I avoid all of you for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:58 PM
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I literally just described to you a trope about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:52 PM
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Men go to jail for that at over 30 times the rate that women do despite presumably doing it at the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:50 PM
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My statement has nothing to do with whatever you are going on about. Women want a perfect guy for them that they can exploit as long as possible. This is why in a morbid way, I respect the women at FDS. Despite being openly pieces of shit, they are actually honest. Most women refuse to be honest, because they know if they were, and people realized that women were like that in general, a lot of arguments are going out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:49 PM
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The problem with this is that many women actually do want that composite. This is empirically shown throughout history. Smart, handsome, and wealthy prince for a woman to chase after has been a trope for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:44 PM
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I don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:41 PM
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What's changed is that men are expected to do everything they've always done, and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:38 PM
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Now you're considered a shitty partner and father if you don't. Wives will talk shit about husband's who don't do the dishes. Meanwhile these same women will refuse to do anything tied to traditionally masculine roles if they have to, especially ones that are inherently dangerous. It then becomes "You're the man, you do it.", or they hire a man to do it. The idea to be a traditional man is literally self imposed pressure and a way to rebel against the reshaping of modern masculinity because it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:35 PM
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The vast majority of women just want a well-adjusted, socially astute partner who cares about who they are as a person. While also not giving an iota of a fuck about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:27 PM
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Most of those generalizations aren't even correct, and it's why I generally disagree with the ideology of RP. All of those mix of confusing appeared behaviors is just an uncaring about men as humans, and a high level of self-interest and self-exploration.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:22 PM
11

Pointing out statistical uniformity within women is not a incorrect thing to do. This is not that however. This is in a sense a strawman. She's attributing obviously incongruent preferences gathered from a collection of men she vaguely paid attention to (probably to argue, not to actually understand them). Me pointing out the statistical reality that women do not care about me as humans, for instance, is not in anyway, shape, or form this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:00 PM
1

In the writers' own words, their concern for this has zero to do with this being a humanitarian crisis. Not once did they mention that the suffering of men countrywide is in itself an issue. They did mention however, and several times at this, that men suffering costs women and the government money, and that's an issue. Me saying this is not "cherry picking", it's me literally stating what the cause for this to be created. This bill is not going to do anything actually meaningful, as it's from t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 09:50 PM
4

The reason why this is offensive is because the literal basis of this is "men having a health crisis is costing the government, and women lots of capital losses". Not once is it looked upon as an extreme humanitarian crisis that it actually is. All these people are concerned about is money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 05:16 PM
5

You can see who pushed the bill to be made on the website.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 04:31 AM
24

Granted the justification of the bill is to benefit women and the economy rather than to help guys. Stipulations like these is why I have zero hope for this to work. This bill reads like a "Men are killed at war, women most affected" article.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 04:30 AM
24

Very few people, especially face to face, will argue that men can't be raped. Most people I've talked to about this unironically believe that they just aren't, especially not by women. When I bring up specific examples of such, they outright deny those situations are even rape. One woman I conversed with actually stated that a case of a boy being raped by his teacher, and his teacher getting away with it was fine because "she was hot" for instance, despite the student being underage, almost had …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 01:08 AM
9

This mod in question literally removed my comment based on a lie. His comment is absolutely correct, this sub is going to go down the shitter.
/r/AntiFeminists23/02/22 04:48 PM
0

As someone else said, they don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:28 PM
-5

This is extreme levels of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 11:50 AM
0

This is empirical data that women don't care.. They overwhelmingly like mutilated penis, and will continue to keep mutilating their children because it benefits women as a whole. Make no mistake, men have zero say in this matter. The only people who can get this to change is women, and they don't care to change it. Why take away something that benefits them as a whole?
/r/AntiFeminists23/02/22 11:09 AM
1

Do you have an example of society encouraging men to do jobs that will kill then? I’m just not clear what this looks like. The entire idea of "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" is exactly such. It encourages men through things like just world fallacy into believing that if they work hard enough in a shit job, eventually they'll make it somewhere. So they go into these jobs that specifically seek out broke healthy men at places like trade Schools and convince them that Working a coal mine of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:36 AM
11

Another reason why entertaining women is a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:47 AM
1

Well there is no draft for men or women in my country. That won't last if war breaks out. That's also rare in totality of the entire planet. Who is encouraging men to do jobs that will kill them? Women and society. Most encouragement I see is to go to college. Most men are told to get a job and a family. If the university route is not possible, dangerous jobs are. This might be a social class thing or just within certain groups, not a male/female thing. Women are not encouraged to go work in a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:43 AM
2

Ah yes, women are spending more money than ever, living the most comfortable lives that they have ever been able to, and men are still dying in coal mines and factories, and being robbed, by women. Totally equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:38 AM
1

they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:34 AM
1

that's the problem. boys are neglected far more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:30 AM
4

Ah yes, women are forced to sign up for military service, and heavily encouraged to work in jobs that'll kill them, as practically give up most of your earnings to statiate women's hyperconsumerist nature, while also largely being ignored by society as a while because you were worn with a dick. totally equal ​ I don’t know what it means to be “left behind by society”? Like that men aren’t able to participate in society and are left out of it?? I think it’s mostly men that have the power of creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:25 AM
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This is stupid. Some men might want a really low count. some men don't gaf. Some men don't want anything to do with any of you. Shocker, unlike women, men aren't a monolithic group, nor do we try to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:04 AM
1

Exactly why that statement is nonsense. Read what I said again, and then read your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:59 AM
0

Also no, it's different from atheism. Here I don't believe in TRP - and I don't really have to prove it wrong, you're the one having to prove it right. I'm not an RP individual. Nor is this statement correct, I made a negative statement, don't twist things. Do you really think that all women exploit men? At the earliest convenience, yes. If they believe that they can justify their actions, they will do it in a heartbeat. Women are trained to abuse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:56 AM
5

That's really the problem with all of these things. Nobody cares until it hurts them, or a woman, or a person they like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 10:25 PM
1

It's very simple. Women lie to make themselves look better than they actually are. People validate that false impression given. Women feel good from this, and keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:24 PM
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Okay cool. It's linked on their Twitter and LinkedIn, I'll edit this post with the email EDIT: it's [email protected]. again, if anyone contacts them, be respectful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 07:26 PM
2

It's not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:26 PM
1

Why do women rape men? This is such a ridiculous question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:04 PM
17

@mods what's the rules for posting emails? I have it if anyone wants to contact the author with a polite response to this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 06:56 PM
34

I was actually curious about who the author was. Two things of note: 1: it's a man 2: his apparent title is "Misinformation Reporter" You can't make this up if you tried Edited for grammar
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 06:53 PM
1

What punishments do you face for existing? At birth, males are subject to have our penises disfigured because of pseudoscience. Nobody bats an eye. Men are subject under penalty of imprisonment and/or ostracization to potentially sacrifice our lives and health for the comfort of women. Women aren't, and fight tooth and nail for this to not change. Those are the two pretty big ones. There's more, but I think I made my point there. And what are women putting into it? Encouragement for this state o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:46 PM
1

I am not interested in having sex with a single one of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:42 PM
3

Demonization of nice men using minority manipulators to justify them being attracted to assholes and abusing actually nice men. Then telling men they abused or have been abused by women that it's their fault and that they shouldn't even speak on it because "nice guys don't complain about being used for being nice". It's hypocritical and extremely abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:41 PM
4

Women refuse to be honest with their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:34 PM
8

She's perfectly fine with men becoming the best versions of themselves, but disagrees with the defensive ideas created by men to be able to navigate dealing with women. Therefore, wanting to be able to have a wide selection of men she can extract and get rid of at earliest convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:31 PM
3

Becoming an alpha type requires that, I think. If you're not riding solo, you have to dominate over people, especially your male orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:26 PM
0

Depends on the context. In general no, but in certain circumstances, a man would do this. For instance, if he feels insecure, a man may lie to get a girl to like him, with the intention of lying being to make himself look better. Women don't have to do this, so they generally don't, although it can happen. In general though, women lie like this all of the time just to keep their appearance of purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:21 PM
3

It's a typical gaslighting strat women take to justify AF/BB mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:16 PM
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The thing is that I can't prove my word without deanonymizing myself. Then simply say that you're not going to and move on. From the other point, you can't prove me wrong either, because you have no idea about my life. I don't need to. I'm saying that you're bullshitting, that's a negative statement, like atheism. I don't have to prove a negative. We're anonymous strangers here and you can either take my word as it is or not. I'm choosing not to, as it's an absurd idea that not only one, but sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:06 PM
1

This statement is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:03 PM
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The issue with this is that people generally don't care about male consent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 03:03 PM
1

It absolutely makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:01 PM
0

I'm not red pilled, nor is this an RP idea
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:01 PM
2

Nah, I'm saying that you're bullshitting for the convenience of looking good. That's a common trait that women have. It's especially the truth when it comes to legal cases. Over 99% of women raping men don't go to prison for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:00 PM
1

Which is why I give none of you anything. GG
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:52 PM
1

Yes. The answer is yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:49 PM
2

This is what justification of hurting good people looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:49 PM
-2

Like I said, lie for convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:47 PM
2

Then why did you respond to me this, it makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:46 PM
2

Are you upset that I did not put a period at the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:45 PM
2

All of you put into a system in which punishes men for existing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:37 PM
4

Translation: I want men to be high end slaves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:34 PM
3

Considering that women are extremely hypocritical and will lie to make themselves look better, this statement is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:33 PM
14

The moderation there is highly ironic
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/22 02:19 PM
3

It won't, but I've accepted that
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/22 12:47 PM
1

I don’t know what women you are talking about All of them, until proven otherwise. but as a stepmother and aunt and cousin and friend, I absolutely don’t want men raped. Lots of women say this then turn a blind eye to men getting raped by their peers, family, and themselves. Bullshit. You don't care, just like no other woman cares. You're not special. Over 99% of men that have been raped in the United States do not receive justice. Over 80% of them are victimized by women, probably higher than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:37 PM
7

Even prenatal nutrition. Things like not having enough iodine intake or beating your kids drops IQ points. The whole "race shows IQ" is near impossible to study. Socioeconomic and social factors far dictates the at best negligible differences in race.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 12:30 PM
1

Gay men and women make those beauty standards. Men typically don't gaf. Also not all men are attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:26 PM
3

I keep seeing this yet women keep raping men by the millions. Nobody teaches women to take no for an answer
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/22 12:24 PM
1

The crazy part is that it's still happening, and women have always said this. I'm calling cap
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/22 12:22 PM
2

and while the woman does face jail time she for whatever reason this is allowed can ask for child support payment if she ended up pregnant. In I believe 95% of cases they get suspended sentences or parole.
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/22 12:21 PM
3

I hate life just as much, but after isolating myself from women, I've felt safer, that's about it.
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/22 12:15 PM
2

No. The justice system would have to care
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/22 11:37 PM
11

The State of affairs in which allowed this WAS created by feminist activism
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/22 11:36 PM
7

I actually talk about this in my book. Long story short, a while ago, after being raped, and the police denied me getting any sort of help or justice, I thought going to therapy might help, as I was still suffering. It didn't. One of the worst experiences I had was with a group session that accused me of harassing them by sitting there shyly and listening to them, figuring that I'd become less ignorant by doing so. They ended up harassing me, of course. They were all feminists of I didn't make i…
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/22 05:27 PM
0

Women constantly say this yet deny and fight against men when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:01 AM
1

Well, im married and love the crap out of the things my husband provides for me. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:00 AM
-1

Nor will you protect and assist a man who got raped to seek justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:59 PM
1

that the government shut down? When did I once say anything about the government?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 07:54 PM
3

I don’t abuse anyone and neither do any of the women in my family or friend circle. I've heard this several times from women, that were absolutely lying. I highly doubt this. I have been acquainted with a lot of abusive men though and the stats on violence toward women in the US would show that it’s an epidemic. Ah, so you've gone to lying. I imagine that just like how women routinely try to cover up gender symmetry, y'all routinely cover up your own abusive nature. From your post history you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:53 PM
3

During the wave of political violence between 2012-2020 there is lots of incidents between these groups, especially on university campuses. I believe a few was shown in the red pill movie. The whole concept of "throwing fire alarms blatantly to get a speaker shut down" was popularized in Canada, against MRA groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 07:46 PM
-1

Uh huh, sure. "I care, but I can't beat them? Nah nevermind I don't care anymore."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:43 PM
-2

You don't care about any men that you do know as well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:08 AM
1

This is straight bullshit. They are the most vain pieces of shit on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:59 AM
1

Feminism was a justified and needed mnie movement. And it's not a reason for incel behavior. This has no bearing on what I said, even if it's true (it's not). When we mocked incels and red pill men on tik toka, we didn't do oto out of nothing. We used their awful takes Against them and mocked them because of what they did first Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:57 AM
10

Women don't care about men as humans, they don't hate men necessarily. That's two completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:51 AM
1

Didn’t talk about what i was attracted to. Why are you lying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:49 AM
11

the one prime example of this that always comes to mind is what happened to Earl Silverman. The amount of harassment he got was insane.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 08:49 AM
0

I've never felt closer to having what I suppose people would call happiness and content in my life until I said that I would close myself off. I don't see why this wouldn't be the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:45 AM
0

Better than being beaten or raped again
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:58 AM
1

That's easy to solve, simply cut them off. I have zero women around me for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:33 AM
1

Basically any single very large company from Germany during that time did something for the Nazi party. It was either that, or get your stuff taken over by the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:32 AM
1

Because feminism in Canada destroys any movement that is 1: pro-men 2: picks up momentum
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 04:30 AM
1

Because it takes power away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:28 AM
0

I don't make assumptions unless I have to. Generalizations work unless they are verifiably untrue. Everything I believe is verifiably true. so why waste my energy, it’s very valuable Energy is the least valuable resources in the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:02 AM
-2

Uh huh sure. I don't see what's not good faith about what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:58 AM
1

What's really funny is that the same guy that made the Porsche made several tank designs for the Nazis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:55 AM
-2

That's not a good thing, but at least you're honest. Most women try and lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:54 AM
2

I very highly doubt women would ever respect a man wanting to watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:53 AM
2

Ah, Canadian. It won't last long
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 02:48 AM
1

VW themselves no. The beetle has never been a performance option for them. The reason why they have similar design language is because they often had the Same people design the vehicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:45 AM
-1

Very much so, you're all like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:43 AM
-2

Nah, they tolerate seeing dick from a man they are attracted to. if that's a stranger, they're fine with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 02:42 AM
2

The ass end of a 1980s and earlier 911 looks like a VW Beetle bug. Because VW is a Porsche family company.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:39 AM
-3

Basically he's a walking good feelings generator you don't gaf about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:38 AM
1

As black comedy because popular with white people, you saw the shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:36 AM
1

I agree with this. Intersectionality people
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/22 02:34 AM
1

Why even bother talking to me if you won’t believe what I say? Seems a bit pointless Study. I want to understand how women respond to things to defend myself if I ever have to encounter them in person again. I’m gonna leave our conversations here because they clearly aren’t actually going to go anywhere. I wish you the best going forward, though. That's fine. That last part is a lie though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:26 AM
2

Uironically getting men to be more comfortable being alone would be a good solution to all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:07 AM
1

I don’t agree that we’ve reached the same privilege as men (though massive progress has been made) socioeconomically because of why that capacity is ignored and how that impacts other aspects of life that involve the expectation or necessity of accountability. Women have more legal rights than men in pretty much all of the west. On pretty much the entire planet, criminal enforcement discriminates against men and protects women. Women get often potentially or actually illegal preferential treatme…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:00 AM
2

No, I put effort in because I like seeing him happy. Of course I don’t want him to leave but I don’t do things for him out of fear that he’ll lose interest. I do things for him because I actively want to. This is a PR response. So why is it not possible for me to be attracted to my husband’s “humanity” if he can be attracted to mine? Women have no incentive to care about the humanity of men. It's much more convenient for them to not, they get more pleasant lives by treating men as things to extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:32 AM
1

Firstly, feminism has existed for much longer. It's absurd to assert that feminism is a reaction to people trying to navigate through life. Secondly, it's absurd to pretend that feminists would stop routinely hurting men if people like incels caved in and be obedient slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:28 AM
2

This link leads to the papers. They have data from 2010-2012, 2014, and 2015. To find the data referenced, compare the 12 month rates for women and men, using "being made to penetrate" for men, and rape for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:26 AM
1

Before I put the effort in to explaining why that’s not true, are you open to changing your mind As an engineer, it's imperative for me to being open to such. or just trying to change mine? I don't care to change your mind. I just don’t see this conversation leading anywhere constructive if you aren’t at least interested in what I have to say. I wouldn't respond if I was not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:55 PM
2

The CDC disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:53 PM
3

I try to give as much as I get out of the relationship Doubtful, but you put in at all because you want to ensure that he doesn't leave. does that mean my husband also sees me as an object to extract from? Men who find attraction in women typically find attraction in their humanity, so no, that's unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:53 PM
1

I as a man am demanded on by my government (by law) and by society (threats of ostracization) to potentially sacrifice my life if necessary to defend it, particularly to defend the women and children (mainly girls, boys just to be next to defend it).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:50 PM
3

I’m guessing you won’t believe a woman who says she’s in a relationship out of love, then? Love doesn't exist. It's a social construct to explain high attraction to a person, and women are not attracted to men for their humanity. In the event you are open to hearing that, hi! I married my husband for love, not personal gain. It absolutely was for personal gain. You simply think that I'm talking about financial gain, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:13 PM
1

Oh I meant in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:08 PM
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Feel free to believe that, but women are varied individuals with all sorts of different desires and motivations. I've yet to meet a single woman that doesn't innately view men as anything but objects to extract from. until I do so, I see no point in believing otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:05 PM
3

Because they are addicted to lying as much as they believe these players lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:03 PM
4

Society doesn’t take women seriously Society doesn't take the evil women can showcase seriously. Women have been able to completely suppress this while gaining validity in socioeconomic aspects. They have the privilege of men while being immune to governmental suppression and abuse. It’s a problem that legitimately hurts everyone, particularly men and any women who aren’t willing to use it to their advantage. The only way I see this harming a woman is if you become targeted by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:02 PM
1

Nah, I get called an incel for refusing to date women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:56 PM
1

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:55 PM
2

And yet there's a ton of people actively denying it even happens. The ones that don't deny it don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:52 PM
1

They don't care, men are just purses to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:48 PM
3

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:46 PM
5

In what society is men given basic human decency? In the US, I'm still treated by the government and society as an object
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:42 PM
0

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:41 PM
1

Those men are called players
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:39 PM
5

Women see men as objects to extract from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:34 PM
3

Women rape men just as much as men rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:32 PM
1

Women want men they can easily abuse. Neither kind of men of these types are easy to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:31 PM
9

Meanwhile women can exhibit the exact same behavior and most people don't give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:29 PM
1

Because they historically lost their income becoming widows
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/22 08:10 PM
0

Hot as they may be, you couldn’t pay me to marry FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:55 AM
2

Meanwhile people routinely ignore women being disgusting rapists
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:52 AM
5

The recognition of black misandry is emerging to be fair The funny thing about this is that feminists, particularly black feminists often compare black men and white women as having "similar levels of privilege".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/22 10:14 PM
11

The recognition of black misandry is emerging to be fair The funny thing about this is that feminists, particularly black feminists often compare black men and white women as having "similar levels of privilege".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/22 10:13 PM
1

Yea, nobody believes you actually do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:52 PM
2

Hence why I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:49 PM
1

To be short and succinct, as I'm sure you have lots of info to comb through, feminism has never, and will never be about equal rights. It's women's advocacy, even at the detriment of men. Many feminists in positions of power openly advocate for Nazi-like ideologies to be pushed, and women openly accept them. I'll give you two examples to make my point: I'm sure that you have heard the phrase "The future is female". That phrase was created by a woman named Sally Miller Gearhart. She named a group…
/r/AntiFeminists18/02/22 01:43 PM
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I think this is quite telling by the fact that despite making more money than women, women still spend far more than men as consumers. Men are expected to do so, often to the detriment of their health. This is in addition to things like emotional labor. The empathy gap extends far and wide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/22 01:17 PM
1

I did. The entire premise of your comment is built off of that sentiment. It assumes that male centric advocates, unlike women centric advocates, don't also allow for women centric advocation, and thus leads to the same pitfalls. This is absurdly wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 11:54 AM
2

Feminism has never fought for equal rights
/r/AntiFeminists17/02/22 10:56 AM
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I'm not interested in being a slave. But I'm not red pilled nor black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:55 AM
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You asked, so I pointed it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 10:54 AM
0

You're the one spouting it, you don't have to be crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:49 AM
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Maybe I take after my mum, but if anyone tried to imply any guy was ‘less than’ in front of me because he’s shy I’d go the fuck off on them. No sane person believes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:50 AM
1

Love is a useless construct invented for women to energize economies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:47 AM
1

Patriarchy theory is incorrect. What women are actually doing is burning old guard conservative fixtures and replacing them with new guard conservative-feminist fixtures.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:45 AM
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hybristophilia is almost solely experienced by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:41 AM
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Those are not jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:39 AM
1

Women don't care about men as humans, so I imagine the former makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:31 AM
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Someone who is raped can't be an incel. Thank you for outing yourself as a person who doesn't care about sexual assault victims though.
/r/AntiFeminists17/02/22 08:30 AM
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To be honest, I'm against the idea of saying men's-anything. It sounds a lot like the mistake I think feminism makes, and I don't want to be a hypocrite. That is your statement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 08:28 AM
1

That's frankly just stupid. You can joke about things without being misandric.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:25 AM
1

Then your whole tirade of being anti men-centric advocacy doesn't make much sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 08:24 AM
2

Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:35 AM
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They don't get charged over 99% of the time in the US as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/22 10:22 AM
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The "have kids, settle doen..." messagibg yoire referring to I've ever never seen or never noticed, and I've followed Peterson on and off for a long time. Then you haven't actually listened to anything that he's said on the topic. He doesn't speak on it much, so that's not shocking. My understanding of his messaging for men is that taking responsibility for yourself first and foremost will lead to a better balance of order and chaos in ones life, plus becoming a better developed human being. Thu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/22 10:19 AM
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Most of them think absurd Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:02 AM
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Assumed competence. Maybe by women. Less fiscal and personal responsibility in their children's lives. This is complete bullshit. Sainthood for being a single parent vs being demonized. Also complete bullshit. Sluts vs player mentality. Blame yourselves for liking players and demonizing promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:00 AM
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They aren't, stop lying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:59 AM
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I find this incredibly ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:57 AM
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Why do people keep lying about vasectomies being reversible? It's at best 50%. Usually around 30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:55 AM
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I do not have basic social protections without signing my life away to the military at age 18. Pretty much every country on the planet doesn't care to help me if a woman rapes me, or beats me. Most social services are designed to specifically help women despite the reality that more men need help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/22 05:49 AM
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This is objectively incorrect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/22 05:45 AM
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I said exactly what I'm referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:12 AM
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Because that's a disgusting thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:59 AM
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Each one of the summary reports has tables breaking down each categorization of IPV, one for men, and one for women. In the categorization of sexual violence, you can see that in both, near the bottom, there's a listing that says "being made to penetrate". It's there to represent the way that women rape the most: forcing men to penetrate them. This is not included in Rape for legal reasons (this dataset uses the legal definition). Comparing the 12 month rates for women being raped, and 12 month …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:51 AM
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Ah, I see now, you're a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:43 AM
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Why would I joke about the wellbeing of men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:43 AM
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Going out of their way to protect themselves against violent, rapey women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:30 AM
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The notion that men share parity of legal rights with women in the western world is absurdly wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/22 01:29 AM
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The summary reports provides all of the data. I will await you trying to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:27 AM
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Each of the years for summary reports, looking at the Lifetime and 12-Month Prevalence of Sexual Violence Victimization — U.S. Men tables, being made to penetrate over the 12 month period, in comparison to the totality for women being raped over the 12 month period.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:26 AM
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The CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:22 AM
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The CDC
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:22 AM
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Men Should start. The fact that men don't is why women are getting away with this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:21 AM
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Women are more likely to be the assaulting, aggressive, crazy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:20 AM
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Not all men, but we don't know which men. And yet you still go for them. I know better, I avoid all of you. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:19 AM
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You're not fooling anyone with your lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:18 AM
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...what standard, not raping people?? And making shit excuses for it. Why do you think you know more than I do about how men treat women when they want something. I've observed thousands of men to understand what they go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:17 AM
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It does. You just are too lazy to actually read the data. Question though: do you think I just made up that being made to penetrate is a thing, or that over the 4 years of study the DPV had a yearly average of 1.5 million men raped under that categorization? Or just because they had it not included in the fact sheet, it doesn't matter to your lazy ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:16 AM
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Why are you lying? You are very clearly quoting the fact sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:12 AM
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So you didn't actually read the summary reports like I said. Embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:04 AM
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I didn't know you were a man, this explains I suppose why you don't know about this issue Clearly more than you. ....and I didn't say it was educated, or correct!! Just that it happens and I'd like it to stop Then why are you trying to argue with me. My entire contention is that it's not an educated statement, and that women can't even meet this standard that you're wanting men to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:04 AM
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So the 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2015 data sets don't show that under being made to penetrate categorization, women were not violating men just as much as men were violating women? Or did you not actually read any of it, and want to bullshit me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:01 AM
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the NISVS summary reports
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:49 AM
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The CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:38 AM
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And... Are you in any sexual relationships with men? Do you have men interested in you/are you interested in them sexually? No, I'm not gay, nor do I need to be gay to talk to men about sex. If you are... I'm very surprised if you've never heard this kind of thing offered up as an explanation or excuse for inappropriate sexual behavior. People saying it doesn't make it educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:38 AM
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That people are uneducated, and say shit that is untrue. And actually, men do the raping of other men most often. Wrong. This is a lie spread intentionally by feminists because they do not wish to have women forcing men to have sex be considered rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:36 AM
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Well people routinely deny that women rape men by the millions in the US alone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:24 AM
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Quite a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:23 AM
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RAINN cherry picks NISVS data to make the situation look worse than it actually is. Your second source uses RAINN data, so redundant. Your last source keeps bugging out, but I believe it used the same source as mine, yet did the math incorrectly. Can't tell though, it keeps trying to make me buy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:23 AM
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using this analysis methodology you can calculate the estimated rate of reports to about 20%, and convictions to around 11%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:07 AM
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By uneducated people. Any educated person should take that shit and toss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:05 AM
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Uneducated people spewing nonsense should be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:02 AM
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So the DoJ is lying then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:02 AM
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Actual statistics that actually study if men are sexually assaulted show that it's equal. Stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:01 AM
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This is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:59 PM
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You want to finish your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:59 PM
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Most men are conditioned to blow off any kind of harassment and hyperfocus on harassment happening to women around them, hence me not believing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:59 PM
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The person you responded to isn't talking about cheating or something, they're talking about sexually and physically violent actions and words. I'm very aware, I can read. Women are violent and rapey. For example if a man thinks it's ok to do something like hair-pulling or spanking without asking for consent to be rough first, and he's called out by his partner, usually he will try to be like "Sorry you just make me so horny I couldn't help myself" 1: Bullshit. 2: women can full on rape a man an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:57 PM
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In the US, the rate is around 11%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:46 PM
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Nobody who actually studies this shit says this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:45 PM
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That is something completely separate from what you stated. You said that more men commit sexual harassment. I'm saying that I don't believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:54 PM
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Calling men dumb because they won't want to fuck you is embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:46 PM
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Making a child not by your consent is the same concern. As an educated, mature adult, I'm sure you're aware that during sex, the receiving partner is more vulnerable to infection than the giving partner, due to the thinness of the internal membrane. That doesn't make an average man not just as concerned that they might have been infected during their violation. You're forcing this, just to call it gendered.
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/22 06:45 PM
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It's unlikely that more men do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:36 PM
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Women can't even do that. In fact, it's not men that make this argument, it's mainly women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:35 PM
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Men tricking themselves to be happy by being a protector and provider doesn't mean that things are better off for men. That just means that men are better conditioned to cope with abusive situations. It's a capacitor for emotions, it doesn't actually fix anything. That's not a good thing. Or where do you believe this mindset will lead? Men eventually become dissatisfied because they will eventually realize that they just became content with being treated like trash and back to square one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 06:28 PM
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Yea na I hate that definition, it means that people can cop out from having effective methods of treating people because they appear to have good intentions. That's why feminists get a pass so much despite often saying things as bad as white supremacists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 06:22 PM
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The assumption is that men and women experience these problems in different ways. This assumption is also false. For instance, women who are raped have greater fear of unwanted pregnancies and STDs. Men have these same fears. It's just inverted for the pregnancy, which you literally are aware of, because of your next line. In a similar case, it brings pretty much the same mental and emotional traumas. This has been studied for over a decade now. Stop this nonsense.
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/22 06:17 PM
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Of course!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:30 AM
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The idea that the result, the issue, is gendered because of the assumption that women and men rape for different reasons (they don't, this is a lie) doesn't make it somehow gendered.
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/22 10:30 AM
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No, it isn't. Men are raped just as much as women mostly by women, more the younger they are, and virtually no man will get Justice.
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/22 10:24 AM
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I would argue that the structuring of this is better, as if makes the context of the question clear from the jump.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:20 AM
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I want to make it very clear here, that future is female statement is disgusting, and comes from a woman who literally wants 90% of men to be murdered
/r/AntiFeminists15/02/22 10:19 AM
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Which seems to say he doesn’t care about the well-being of men, he just wants them to fulfil their role. This is the reason why his mindset does not show care for the well-being of men. That doesn't mean that it is malicious, it just simply means that he doesn't have a mindset that actually cares. If he thinks these things are in men’s best interest, then yes he does care about men’s well-being. He would just be wrong about what’s actually good for men This is the part that you keep missing: I w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:16 AM
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However, this is clearly an attempt to inflate the numbers. Why else would they make this very specific change, if not to imply that merely having sex while drunk constitutes rape? The problem with this statement is that they very clearly added "too" in there. The question is obviously made to indicate inebriation to the point of non-controlled consciousness. Being drunk and black out drunk is two completely separate mind states.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:13 AM
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Tough. Want to fuck around? Less men will be attracted to you, as you are showing signals of abusive, divisive behavior. Men aren't yours to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:10 AM
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I wouldn't want a kid, that requires having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:55 AM
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Those conservative beliefs are anti men, so holding them makes you not actually care about men's wellbeing. It doesn't matter if you think that they are good for men, they aren't. I'm not saying that he's malicious, I'm saying that he's wrong. You're assuming that these are the same. They aren't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 06:54 AM
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The surveys don't have equal weight. If you only take one of those surveys, then the 2012 one is the best. There's no stopping you from taking them all. You can't just average the results from the 2012 and the 2015 reports because the latter only contains data from 1 year while the former includes data from three consecutive years. This would be like saying that you couldn't average 2010 and 2011 together because they were done in different years. Also, NISVS 2015 changed "When you were drunk, h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 06:52 AM
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You don't like it. That's not what hypocrisy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:44 AM
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In the US, women can rape young boys and then get child support off them. Courts will enforce it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 03:10 AM
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The 2012 report is just the 2010-2012 data. It's the same survey methodology, so calling one more or less accurate doesn't make sense. What would make most sense is to look at all of the years studied, so 2010-2012, and 2015.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 03:09 AM
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This is one of the reasons that I can't stand BLM. Many in that movement actually think that black women face police brutality more than men. Meanwhile, reality shows that in reality it's men, in general, far more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 03:04 AM
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"men are killed, women most affected" have been unironic headlines.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 03:00 AM
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Feminists*. Not all Dems are feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 02:59 AM
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For one, saying that a woman is an adult human female is a complete definition. It's not the only one, but for the purposes of most common parlance, it's good enough. The problem with feminists saying that feminism is simply fighting for gender equality is that is not a complete definition, nor is it true. Complete definition of feminism would be something to the tune of A movement on the basis of attainment of rights and freedoms for people who identify as women or femme. Some feminists argue t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 02:58 AM
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Tough. You don't get to tell men that they are bad people because they want to remove strife in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:48 AM
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I'll ask the same question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:18 PM
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What do you mean? Like kind people tend to disappear, because someone abused them? No, when they see people get abused they disappear. If you've watched or read a Silent Voice, I'm talking about people like Miki. The "kind" person that dips at the first sign of conflict. Most people I've encountered that are like how you described yourself, those people are just like Miki.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:54 PM
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It shows that his mindset is the typical "I want men to be providers" mindset. It's not actually caring about the wellbeing of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 10:49 PM
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Because you, like so many other women, refuse to listen to men when they have so commonly stated the answer to this. Men who have sex often with various women understand that to do so, they have to take on traits in which allows them to have sexual access that, if they encounter someone similar, will lead to combativeness. Despite women having a much easier time getting sex, it's not like it's a perfect storm for every woman (why FDS women exist), and thus they have to employ some level of game …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:30 PM
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Preach. I hate this, as it can be such a useful tool to really understand wtf a person can go through. I emphasize with groups like incels because I can understand just how painful all of the aspects of a man can come to that pained outlook and position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:15 PM
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Like people aren't going to gaslight me into thinking otherwise. I know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:13 PM
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That would be fallacious argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:12 PM
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It is an apt generalization. Why wouldn't a group in a position of privilege want to willingly give it up? Women can beat, rape, or otherwise abuse men with impunity. As long as that man doesn't end up dead or the government doesn't waste their resources, nobody gives an iota of a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:11 PM
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Did I ever state they can or not? No, I said that you don't understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:59 PM
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If I had to imagine, it'd be Asians generally, especially Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Indian.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:57 PM
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Yea those people in my experience tend to disappear when people, particularly women become abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:56 PM
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Being alone is quite nice. I don't feel like I'm suffering anymore because I know what is on the other side. The grass isn't greener. As far as your question goes, fuck my father, he's a piece of shit. I don't have a kid. I wish I could speak to my brother about this, I hate seeing him get hurt, and I'm not gay.
/r/AntiFeminists14/02/22 07:54 PM
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Fine by me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:51 PM
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Women don't care to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:45 PM
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Be at peace
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:37 PM
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My only issue with your statement is that your assessment of BlkP is off. The stance is that biological aspects are a hard blocker for women. It's not the only blocker. They hyperfocus on it because that's the one thing of concern as to why they see themselves being failures in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:34 PM
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PUA is a groups tied to a philosophy on how to attract and have sex with as many women as wanted. It is still around, but was a precursor to RP philosophy. TRP is a philosophy around general relationship dynamics, surrounding how to move through the landscape of the current environment. Black pill individuals are people who see a bleak reality in which case attraction is predetermined at birth, and often come to these realizations through failure to attract anyone. MGTOW is a lifestyle that is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:28 PM
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So often I see comments like these and think to myself, where were women like this to say something when the millions of men and boys would go through hell, often in public view, for nobody to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:19 PM
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I always hated this separation of logic between the suffering of African descendants and men. It is so often literally the same situations. I believe that this is the failure of intersectionality, that people can't recognize that these things can compound each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:16 PM
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Having a successful relationship with a woman is not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:08 PM
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This is due to patriarchy theory. Men is always the scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:03 PM
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So you don't actually understand men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:00 PM
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There isn't a good reason for a working male to be a virgin in today's society, and grown women will see to it that any acceptable male will get sex as young as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:53 PM
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Let's be real here, most women would reject a man for not having any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:50 PM
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It's very strange. Personally, I have no issues with it. If someone wants to have a gender identification different than their biological sex, go ahead. We didn't consent to be made the way we are in the first place. I don't believe that our thoughts should be censored by the state though, as long as those thoughts don't lead to actual harm. A store clerk being rude doesn't do such.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 06:48 PM
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Men simply must accept being alone or being tortured is the future.
/r/AntiFeminists14/02/22 06:45 PM
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It is a thought process built off of mental gymnastics. It, and the vain hyperconsumerism is why a lot of men end up suffering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 06:02 PM
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It doesn't say that anywhere in the documentation of the law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 05:54 PM
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It's not. It could be anyone in which has a position of authority in business. Him as a professor, or some random store clerk would be exempt to punishment. In addition, it's not a fine, at least not in reality. You're not paying the state, you're paying the "victim".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 05:54 PM
5

When initially questioned about men struggling in relationships, he says this in a presentation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 05:50 PM
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To argue this is simply wrong. Here's a direct quote from the Canadian parliament website: This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 05:43 PM
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I come to the conclusion because when I mention it, it's so often that they come off as genuinely confused, and genuine confusion is hard to fake.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 03:45 AM
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Yes, I couldn't see very well so I was using voice typing, my apologies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 03:42 AM
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You get it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:42 AM
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Patriarchy theory is an evolving set of feminist beliefs revolving around the dynamics of power in society, using gender, critical theory, and the assumed belief that men are better off as lenses to do so. It's the methodology in which they use to come up with misandrist beliefs like that women raping men shouldn't be considered as rape. As far as your last question, I don't know, a lot I'm sure think such though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 03:40 AM
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When the CDC did their landmark NISVS studies, they published data showing that women were forcing men to have sex with them just as much as the inverse, actually over the course of the 4 years of studies, they average out slightly more. The only reason why this is not talked about is because they separate this from normal rape statistics, as it is not considered rape legally for a woman to force a man to penetrate her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:30 AM
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For clarification, patriarchy theory is not required to be a feminist. Many feminists don't even understand patriarchy theory, despite spewing its tenants.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/22 02:46 PM
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The same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:58 PM
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We don't have stats to show anything about what women are doing here. Wrong. The CDC has 4 years of data. The NHS As of 2021 started to study such and are showing the same thing. Women get away with raping men over 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 06:06 AM
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They are just as disgusting as the women who actually do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 09:07 AM
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They don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:37 AM
1

This is why people here hate people like you.
/r/AntiFeminists12/02/22 05:35 AM
0

Given that women almost always get away with it, this comment doesn't seem very reassuring either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:14 AM
2

Unlike women, who get away with it anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:13 AM
1

By statistics given by the United States and British government, women are just as likely to rape men. So would you ask this disgusting question in the inverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:11 AM
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They become angry as they lose one of the most powerful weapons they have: sexual appeal. In that situation, they feel powerless. So they lash out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/22 04:02 AM
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I feel like at this current moment, going to the police will only hurt men. I've experienced, and talked to so many men raped by women, and every one that stated that they went to the police, they were harassed or threatened with jail time, and nothing was done.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/22 02:47 PM
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She did not read the Principia or Opticks. There's no way that you can come to that conclusion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/22 02:43 PM
8

This reminds me of a shower thought that I had, I said I was going to make a post about it but it had fell out of my mind think I'll make that post
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 08:44 PM
51

They banned me simply because I stated correct numbers out of the NISVS studies. They do not care about the truth, they care about the perception of being right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/22 08:20 PM
7

r/teacherswhorape
/r/AntiFeminists05/02/22 09:34 AM
19

Lots of men don't even get sex. I got cheated on in my penultimate relationship on Valentine's actually now that I think about it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/22 04:03 AM
1

I took that out on purpose, I will not have this sub be attacked because justifiably angry men decide to do something that isn't so justifiable and go harass people.
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 12:40 AM
3

The very act of saying this bullshit those that they don't care.
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 12:39 AM
0

This becomes a problem when you cannot think of a single person that doesn't. At that point, you're just lying to yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 03:33 PM
3

Correct.
/r/AntiFeminists03/02/22 03:29 PM
11

Trying to OD on Tylenol counts as a suicide attempt despite it being near impossible.
/r/AntiFeminists03/02/22 03:25 PM
125

They don't care. I don't know how many times I have to stay it, but I'll keep saying it. They don't care about men. They see men as at best useful tools. Never let someone gaslight you into saying that they don't exist.
/r/AntiFeminists03/02/22 06:57 AM
9

Some of those comments are disgusting. I saw one chain where they were trying to justify "joking" about how they are bi but struggle to like men. I find that to be code for abusing men while not liking them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/22 12:28 PM
6

You are legendary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 04:56 PM
1

From archival posts I've seen, idk there was a lot of sexism involved, male supremacy type posts. Despite being fearful/resentful towards women, I don't wish harm on women, nor do I see myself as any better. Those conversations would make me extremely uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:54 PM
3

That's my question.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/22 04:51 PM
7

Them feeling this way isn't blatant maliciousness. I'd argue that a lot of it is. But my beliefs are probably vastly different than most here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 04:47 PM
15

when the only time any "advocacy" about the plight of men in our society is brought up is when it is a response to a conversation about women issues or in response to "feminism" and they feel the need to hi-jack the discussion because it seems (from my perspective) that they are angered by the subject being societal issues women face This is because not only is the plight of men routinely ignored, when women speak on their issues, it is so often that they invalidate male issues in doing so (ex m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 04:43 PM
1

The impetus for such comes from my own personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:51 PM
1

A philosophy I'd call my own would have to be sex negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:50 PM
2

I don't really fall into any of the pills as I'm not interested in a relationship. I don't want sex, and I don't believe that women care about men as humans. I'm not interested in a romantic relationship with a man, even if that man is a good person, as I'm not gay. I thought I was MGTOW for a bit, but that philosophy is in support of still having sex. I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:04 AM
1

All of my definitions will be from the perspective of a man. I don't believe that pill theory applies to women. Blue pill: philosophy of denial pretty much. The world is exactly how MSM paints it, and living as a man is easy. All you need to do to receive basic human dignity and "eventually" affection is to be kind and, frankly, open yourself up for abuse. Essentially, become an unironic, unaware simp, and life will be okay. Red pill: this is a philosophy of more awareness on just how bad it act…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:53 AM
7

Everything I talk about is based on real experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:35 AM
6

Mary Koss is not a man. Ellen Pence is not a man. Most of the authors on VAWA-adjecent laws are not men. Stop this goddamn lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:10 AM
-1

Women beating and raping men have nothing to do with patriarchy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:06 AM
3

Instead, it should just be to enjoy life more. That kind of energy pulls people. It's probably why despite not wanting anyone around me, they somehow find me. I rarely if ever go out anymore because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:08 AM
3

This is how men get abused. I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:04 AM
-2

Yes, that is exactly what she is saying.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/22 12:00 AM
3

We don't know in those places because in those places, it isn't recorded. Thanks for admitting that you don't gaf though. Not interested in engaging with people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:58 PM
3

As far as I've been able to ascertain, the therapists are no better. I've spoken to many men who had similar experiences, where they would try to either get you to see the event as something else (in my case they would either think that I didn't like it because they thought I might be gay, or "just found the women unattractive"), or get you to "just get over it".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 11:56 PM
5

It is literally more than women. The disparity grows even more if you consider their rape categorization. You are simply wrong, and you don't give a fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:04 PM
1

It is not that bad to be permanently alone, I do it willingly in fact. I wish that men would learn this, enforce these women to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:54 PM
6

So when the CDC says that on average an estimated 1.5 million men a year were forced to penetrate a woman (aka they got raped), are you saying that they are lying? EDIT: also, I find it quite rich that I've literally told you the source, which is the cdc, and it's the same source that the link that you posted uses, yet doesn't actually fully explain the context behind all of the data that the CDC provided, but you're going to try and tell me, someone who's actually read all of the studies, what …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:51 PM
7

And it’s hard to believe women are going around sodomizing random men Are you the type of person who believes that either women forcing men to have sex isn't rape, or that it should be considered a lesser offense? As for your previous comment, I literally did cite the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:19 PM
2

It's ironic that you link that post. They use the NISVS data, but fail to mention that of course of the four years of study, the NISVS data shows that men are raped by women just as much as women are raped by men. But you don't care about that. You would rather The narrative stay that men are the monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:46 PM
26

They don't care. It is inconvenient for them for a man to be a victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 09:43 PM
0

This is not correct in any way, shape, or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:12 PM
13

Women are allowed to be abusive pieces of shit and men have to sit there and take it with a smile. People only care when the man is seriously injured or killed. There is no solution, as nobody seems interested in holding women accountable for being abusive pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:54 PM
42

It's sad that, I'd imagine frankly most men are not comforted in this way. It's a blessing in disguise that I'm disinterested in being touched in the slightest, I suppose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 04:26 PM
23

Jack wanted it to just go away originally, but then several guys came to him telling him that she's done similar shit to them. She, and a lot of other women are serial predators.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 02:08 PM
23

The saddest part about the situation is that supposed SA advocates in this YouTube/TikTok space has consistently been gaslighting jack and anyone who stands with him into believing that this isn't that bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 02:06 PM
1

I'm not an RP individual. You assuming such is your own fault. EDIT: And I have never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:02 PM
1

You have absolutely no idea what I"complain about"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:00 PM
3

This has absolutely nothing to do with me or any man. That is their issues, not mine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 01:56 PM
2

They won't read it, they aren't interested in facts.
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/22 03:09 AM
1

I've been pained too much to believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:08 AM
10

I don't see the issue with the realization that most women don't give a fuck about you, nor have good intentions with you. Most people in general have that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:24 PM
12

Blue pill advice is be a slave with a smile and women won't try getting you arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:22 PM
20

These are the type of women to rape a man, drug him, then accuse him
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/22 10:33 PM
11

What was his response to your last comment?
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/22 10:29 PM
5

So men should take a backseat to women getting what they want? Again, reflavored tradcon mindset.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 10:26 PM
11

Just like it's not fair now. Someone obtaining rights or not should not impede others, that's absurd. This just seems like a reflavored tradcon mindset.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 07:09 PM
20

Considering that many actually view toxic masculinity as code for "this man is defective", I doubt it'll ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 05:37 PM
7

Why is there a stipulation?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 05:27 PM
2

Men's rights are about men's rights, not about anything else. I'm personally against intersectionality, because I've never seen it help, only make it so no one is helped. That's because people usually fail to understand what intersectionality as a tool can be used for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 05:25 PM
8

Because it necessarily means that those resources men are taking up could have been for women. Even if they weren't in the first place, say if money was taken from the military. They want as much as possible, often even to the detriment of men. Why do you think women are the majority spenders in consumer trends?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 03:42 PM
7

They are rewarded for their toxicity, so why stop?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 03:34 PM
5

I typically just stay silent and hope that they quickly leave me alone. I don't find it cringey, I find it horrifying, especially if it's in person. Abuse usually follows statements like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 03:33 PM
21

For the record, for anyone wanting to see what I had for him, this was to be my response: That is in reference to the tons of legal issues in which case people like this actively fight for men to be discounted as less than. In the US, men are often discriminated against in Title IX matters, both as victims and as defendants. Men are not considered rape victims if women force them to have sex (him penetrating her). It has been shown for decades that men are beaten by female partners, but despite …
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/22 03:30 AM
2

This is disgusting
/r/AntiFeminists30/01/22 01:28 AM
55

Quite a few women, particularly young women openly talk about it, especially on the internet. Making alts on Instagram and Snapchat to see what someone is doing without letting them know. Things like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/22 01:27 AM
12

All of the above, from my experience, yes. They cannot fathom a man that does not fit these narrow molds. As another poster mentioned, it's often damage control for a bruised ego. Either they choose the path of insulting the man, intentionally or otherwise, or they will just not take no for an answer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 10:22 PM
24

As in the women insulting you in a homophobic manner? It usually goes from bemused questioning about my sexuality to using homosexuality as in insult (ex: implying that I'm apparently gay because no woman wants me). I find that black women whomst comes from a lower socioeconomic status does it the most as well. Cackling after rejecting them, then instantly calling me DL.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 10:06 PM
18

It constantly happens to me. Very quickly turns insulting as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 09:12 PM
22

It challenges their worldview that men can only be primal monsters only interested in inflicting violence, getting resources, and having sex with as many women as possible. If a man isn't that, they assume that the man is gay or defective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 07:53 PM
28

This is why many women upon hearing that a man is not interested in having sex with them, or women in general, they automatically assume that the man in question is gay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 07:51 PM
3

That is the plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:55 PM
5

Not really. Woke me up eventually, now I can be at peace
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:35 PM
2

I do care about being attractive, but whether men care more than women do is dependent on the man FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:10 PM
1

I want to be found unattractive and undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:09 PM
7

The problem is that the vast majority of you turn your preferences into requirements when it suits you, and get rid of them when they don't. Y'all will also leverage them to insult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:09 PM
22

30????? That's insane
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 04:01 PM
15

"why can't men fund their own stuff?"
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/22 03:08 AM
1

If they are doing so with the idea that is the one and only realistic way that they can get what they want, then yes that isn't a choice. Nobody is going to willingly pick the decision that they believe will lead to sadness, THAT'S an insane take. To assert that tradcons don't constantly pump to the masses that the only viable way for most men to get consistent sex and eventually a family is via marrying a woman, and then that women see men who only contribute the bare minimum to a relationship,…
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/22 02:05 AM
1

I think that if a man chooses to disclose their financial situation, share bank accounts, propose, and get married to a woman, then he has consented to the arrangement. Men are gaslit into believing that this is the only choice they have to get the things that they want. That's not a choice.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/22 12:08 AM
1

I've never had a good experience being around any of you rapists and creeps.
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/22 12:06 AM
35

She would rather both buildings be for women
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/22 12:00 AM
1

This is why. Disgusting
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:51 PM
1

I don't hate women, I fear women.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:50 PM
1

And yet they keep trying.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:47 PM
1

That's what I advocate for. Ditch women, all they bring is toxicity and abuse. And for what, kids? Sex? You can get those elsewhere, alone.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:43 PM
1

I'm not the one here bullshitting and gaslighting
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:39 PM
4

I'm not sure what you are getting at by going over his background. Like, are you trying to justify him getting beat on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/22 09:37 PM
1

This is not my issue, I refuse to be with a woman
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:33 PM
1

Adult men don't get the choice of consent a lot yes.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 09:32 PM
3

If you do give her access it's most likely spend on thing for both of them This is categorically false.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 08:00 PM
1

Is it really voluntary?
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 07:58 PM
16

I ordered chocolate. I will be eating it alone in peace.
/r/AntiFeminists28/01/22 05:07 PM
6

So in layman's terms it would be unreasonable to refer solely to the lifetime stats because historically men were not counted in the lifetime stats up until a certain point? This is exactly why the lifetime statistics are not reliable. Think about it, does it make any sense that the estimation would over a lifetime nearly match the estimation they have over the course of 4 years of study, despite all the years of study showing that the rate is virtually the same as women? No, of course not. whil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/22 05:01 PM
2

and a desire in many feminists and Marxists to divide the world between oppressors and opressed. They also want themselves to be deemed depressed, all also oppressing the people they claim to be the oppressor.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 10:16 PM
5

After a grand total of seeing 31 "professionals", that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 05:56 PM
2

I don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt as a rule. In my profession, that is how people get killed, and how millions are lost. Without a proper citation, I cannot assess the validity of the claim, and given the source, I simply am just going to hold a skeptical view. I do not see what is the issue with that, considering that it's not a positive or negative outlook on what the op is claiming.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 05:52 PM
2

Yiou have no source for the BBC, yet are sceptical about the BBC I, and many others, find the outlet itself to be often anti-man, so then putting out something that someone claims to be pro man is viewed with skepticism. I'm not sure why you don't see this as reasonable. Also, no one is saying that Americans don't have access to the BBC as a whole. I don't think you realize this, but the program itself is behind a paywall on your link, as well as being region locked, and I have yet to find it an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 05:49 PM
16

One case I'm a bit more unsure about is therapists and therapy groups. Some women get incredibly traumatized by make abusers that they start panicking just by being close to a man. I feel like I cannot demand strict equality when it will make access to healthcare nearly impossible for some. Ironically, this is the reason why I just refuse to ever go to therapy again. I spoke about it at length in my book, but the long story short is that I went to a therapy group for sexual assault victims, and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 05:42 PM
2

Skepticism is pragmatic, especially given the source. Like I said, if you have a way for the Americans here to view it, would be nice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 03:07 PM
13

That doesn't matter to these groups, as they believe that men are universally comfortable with being harassed and abused
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 02:56 PM
1

Also still missing the point that a lot of us just don't have access to this media, so we can't confirm nor deny your claims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 02:52 PM
23

“A reading of (the law) to imply a gender privacy exception, although presumably to benefit women, could also negatively affect the rights of women in a different way,” Robinson wrote. “Such an exception could be invoked to exclude women based on the privacy interests of men and could justify discrimination against transgender individuals because some customers, ‘due to modesty, find it uncomfortable’ to be around such people.” Ironic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 02:19 AM
1

That's the problem. They are calling things that is bare minimum sexual battery, and at worst rape that. I've never seen an article targeted at investigation of these acts done against women be misconstrued as such, because it's misleading. It makes these things sound like "shitty but legal".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 02:14 AM
3

Considering that a lot of us are americans, we don't have easy access.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 12:57 AM
-1

Don't change the situation. You aren't slick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:55 AM
1

Dragging along a man you know has no reason to be with you for a relationship because you know the second he gets that boring sex, he will see no value in you and dip is manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:01 PM
-1

Forcing men to wait so that you can drag them along is manipulation. It's abusive. The only reason why people deem it acceptable is because it comes from women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:00 PM
3

No, I'm literally saying that there's a shitload of men in there talking about them being abused. To feminism they don't exist.
/r/AntiFeminists26/01/22 05:52 PM
0

Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:36 PM
3

That in the actual reports they detail how the main way men are raped, being made to penetrate, is excluded from rape statistics, and if you actually look into the history of why, it's because feminists deemed it inappropriate for women forcing men to have sex with them as rape, and that got included into law.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:29 PM
1

I meant to type cuck, autocorrect got me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:49 PM
3

I fully expect you to skip the actual reports, jump to the misleading fact sheets, and then try to tell me that I'm wrong. Here you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:18 PM
2

This is disgusting. Don't bother replying to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:47 PM
2

So then why say your original statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:27 PM
2

This is false. Most men don't ever end up even getting married or having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:22 PM
6

So you think that a shit ton of men will put up with being a cuck? EDITED FOR GRAMMAR
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:20 PM
14

Why are you responding to me with this bullshit? This is a gender problem precisely because men getting abused like this is completely ignored until they are dead.
/r/AntiFeminists26/01/22 12:18 PM
7

Ask them and they'll often describe their posh life as such. Feminism has convinced them that they have suffered like a black man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 12:16 PM
6

This is a very good summary. That end point is very true as well, I've noticed that they try to do the "but I have BLM in my bio" move when I call them out too. Calling it now, if BLM can be entirely co-oped by feminists to exclude black men, they'll gladly wield that racism like a claymore
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 12:15 PM
7

Yes, they are just extreme. Feminists that paint themselves as "moderates" don't like to tell the truth. In reality, they agree with FDS types.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 12:11 PM
1

No, not blue, black. He's an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:08 PM
2

Most men are not rapist criminals, but when you're going on a first date with someone, they very well could be. You don't know that person. The fear is justified. You can say the exact same thing about a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:06 PM
1

The same rate of women are raped by men. Women don't even care to get consent. This narrative is just false
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:05 PM
4

But will never ask themselves. They might say the words, but it's never a request.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:53 AM
3

that statement always boils down to being slaves. Respecting men doesn't matter, let's be real here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:51 AM
20

Just read through the comments, so many men talking about all of the abuse they had to go through.
/r/AntiFeminists26/01/22 04:07 AM
6

Elliot Rodger is not a RP individual, he was BP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:02 AM
3

Aka being a woman's slave with a smile
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:00 AM
2

Nah, we're too far gone. Thanos was only half right. Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:57 AM
2

Even if he didn't give them the chance, how does that mean that indicate that he has a belief of inferiority of one sex over another? Excluding people from your life has zero to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:56 AM
12

Well that's because it destroys their entire belief system
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 03:42 AM
1

This isn't the right kind of bug the hurt was more emotional, not from the post itself, but rather the information within
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 03:37 AM
33

The problem is that the arguments themselves are often completely disingenuous call such as the old tired argument that you can't talk about black men suffering as a gender issue, because it often has a racial component so they will try to side skirt the fact that it is a gendered issue by the fact that there's a racial component. The reason why this sort of argumentation is disingenuous is because, like with a lot of arguments, it ignores the inherent intersectional issue that comes with the si…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 08:38 PM
12

That is a marketing gimmick to fail away their blatant misandry. It's quite literally a tale of if you lie enough, people start believing your lies, especially if they sound good.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 08:29 PM
11

Feminism has never, or will never be about gender equality, but rather the increase of Rights for women. Feminism does not care about what happens to men, and oftentimes fights against rights being gained by men, if it takes away from the initiatives of feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 08:28 PM
3

You didn't even read your own link
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:18 PM
2

Legally speaking, unless a woman pegs a man, it's not rape pretty much anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:14 PM
2

You have no actual basis to make this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:14 PM
6

Clearly not according to the law
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:02 PM
1

? What do you mean by that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:00 PM
2

This is a meme myth made up to make patriarchy theory work. It does not apply to the United states, nor pretty much all of the west, nor does it apply to pretty much the vast majority of places and times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:55 PM
2

Wait until they find out that men are treated as slaves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:33 PM
3

Stop capping
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:37 PM
19

Patriarchy theory is the framework invented by feminists to showcase a perspective on why they feel that men are oppressive. When they say that "the patriarchy" is the cause of all of what they stand against, they mean that the society that they exist in has a oppressive structure fueled by masculinity, not necessarily men (that's why most non TERFs view TERFs as part of the patriarchy). It also assumes that any dynamic between a masculine person and a feminine person, the victim is always the f…
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 02:27 PM
10

Given your other responses I doubt this, however there's your responses
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 02:19 PM
23

That is patriarchy theory.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 12:43 PM
25

The literal definition, or in regards to patriarchy theory? The former definitely existed, but was eradicated after the successes of the sexual liberation movement, and now we are moving to a matriarchy with zero protections for men. The patriarchy as per patriarchy theory never existed.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 12:42 PM
8

Plus the idea that black men are good and worthy of empathy, while white men are bad, is basically othering black men from the male community. I don't believe that many hold this view tbh, especially when a black feminist is in earshot ranting about black men. The racism starts to flow then. Either you think trans men aren't real men, or you think they instantly become monsters the moment they transition. I think that trans men actually make a lot of women consider that the things they think are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 12:38 PM
10

So saying something like "VAWA is utter misandry" means less than nothing to feminists without the explanation and nuance you provide They will call this mansplaining. They don't care to know the context. That's why this is silly. It's often the case that these arguments are entirely intentional.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 12:33 PM
1

This is a legal issue, that's typically what women do to men and boys is not considered rape legally, and you can't accuse someone in a reporting of a crime that they're not even being charged with, that's considered libelous. The fact that they openly called it rape means that she probably pegged him.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 07:28 AM
1

This is most likely because it was legal for them to, which means that she probably tried pegging him, or pegged.
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 07:27 AM
2

It never had it in the first place
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 07:24 AM
2

I stated that the empathy gap is real
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 07:22 AM
6

This is the lowest ever troll post I've seen
/r/AntiFeminists25/01/22 07:16 AM
9

Many feminists would probably respond like “All the bad stuff you listed is due to racism, it has nothing to do with you being a man. Prime reason why this sort of argumentation doesn't work is that it literally does not apply to women, nor has it really up until like the last decade, and that's in a minority fashion. It has been very rare occurrence that women have been involved in gang related activities, especially violent ones. The most famous one I can think of is a Chicago shooter named K.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:07 AM
12

I mean, this is kind of the exact take I feel like I'm describing. Femicide isn't saying that men don't matter, it's highlighting upticks in crimes against women and some violent attacks women are genuinely at a higher risk for (like being assaulted because they rejected someone). This is the problem here. The justification for statements like this is often pure fabrication. It's just like the rape myth: Feminists continuously discount male victims of rape when the perp is a woman, publish acade…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:00 AM
1

Hehe
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 07:32 PM
5

https://dailycollegian.com/2018/04/schools-are-designed-more-for-girls-than-for-boys/ This read, and the linked Ted talk is a good American example
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 07:31 PM
1

Yes, it pisses me off when some random decides to insult me, then tries to gaslight me into believing that they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:33 PM
0

There is no might. That literally is an assumption as you don't know what the actual reason is. You took a shot in the dark, and it's fucking wrong. YOU grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:27 PM
3

It sowed up as such on my phone, that's odd.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 05:23 PM
14

There's several studies showing this. I don't see why people were questioning what I had said.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 05:22 PM
1

You assumed that I had a medical deficiency because I was not interested in having sex, without knowing anything about me. That is very much so an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:20 PM
2

It was the "I'm Glad to Insult these Bitches" Post. It's here on this sub, let me see if I can find it.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 05:19 PM
2

Don't insult me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:14 PM
-1

Buying a smoothie every other year is not spending money on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:14 PM
1

You can stop bullshiting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:13 PM
3

When did I say it was an exception? Quite literally said that the entire education system is designed to help girls.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 04:12 PM
1

Yes. In my twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:21 PM
4

I've never met a woman who didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:20 PM
17

You're really going to sit here and argue that there is women who will tolerate no financial incentive to their relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:20 PM
7

And yet women use sex as a reward to men who they don't want to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:18 PM
2

For you. Sex is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:18 PM
38

I'm not sure what you are trying to say
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 02:00 PM
77

The education system is designed to help girls and women learn. This is not a surprise.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 01:50 PM
2

They don't care about women raping men, why should we care
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 01:42 PM
19

I don't see what was misogynistic about that post.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 11:21 AM
1

I didn't. I said exactly what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:56 AM
2

We don't have any data on what occured back then. If it happened though, there was things a man could do to defend himself or get her punished.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 10:53 AM
3

OH Well thank you let's party
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 10:51 AM
4

I asked her why she thought this considering that it was feminists that made it to where women forcing men to have sex with her has been made considered not rape in the US, and pretty much every where else in the world.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 10:50 AM
7

Feminists in the US and in general in the west routinely deny that it even happens.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 10:48 AM
6

Look at the very bottom of your screenshot.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 01:26 AM
6

?
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 01:25 AM
7

Oh, it seems that it has my birthday set wrong 😅
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 01:23 AM
19

A question to you: did you read the thread in its entirety?
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/22 12:12 AM
53

I saw one woman say that "this is why we need feminism" nonsense. I messaged her, thinking that for once see reason. I was told to kill myself.
/r/AntiFeminists23/01/22 11:31 PM
8

Godspeed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 10:48 PM
5

Damn all of those things, let's look at the assault of men, by women. And rape men just as much as men rape women, where is the love and support for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 10:42 PM
12

This hurt reading, I had to stop. Thank you for making this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 02:29 PM
1

Hehe
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 01:31 PM
2

I don't see how I'm trolling, I'm serious. If you look at gen x, and especially their line of feminist activism through their teens/twenties, they pushed for extremely toxic/abusive standards. The ones who weren't in the streets simply sat there and nodded, saying that they were fighting the good fight. I don't see how it's trolling to point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:31 PM
0

I don't mean that per se, but rather some men have zero policy for the things women do typically (ex: me), and some women don't see the lowest of LVM as even worth abusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:28 PM
0

I don't care what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:26 PM
1

I didn't pick the vast majority of women that was around me that made me feel this way. And I've yet to meet a woman not like this. You can believe what you want, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:26 PM
1

provide some source instead of idiotic conjectures for god sake, Just because you are ignorant, and have been ignorant for over a decade, doesn't mean that it's stupid. But since you asked, here's 4 years worth of study done by the CDC showing that women rape men just as much as men rape women. I will await the typical you not reading a single one of the reports because "they are too long" and skipping to the fact sheets to try and tell me what the reports say though. either you're a female larp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:24 PM
1

I don't see what's confusing about what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:12 PM
1

Probably because they want to be left alone, and are constantly forced or coerced into being around people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:12 PM
1

I would not consider someone you are abusing as valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:10 PM
5

They are literally treating themselves like cars
/r/AntiFeminists23/01/22 01:07 PM
4

That's what a strange thing, that's a lot of the solutions that are posited here is distinctly left wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 02:41 AM
6

No no, I mean in terms of men's rights. I understand what right wing means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 02:31 AM
7

It always perplexes me when I see a right winger try and tackle any issue in regards to metal rights, as it's usually just status quo rebranded. I was wondering what your ideas are. Anything specific?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/22 02:26 AM
0

I missed the flair, my apologies. And yes, it's published now. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QSSXDW5/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_ZHHWHFNG3J407DFPVNN9 If you wish to get a copy, I can send you a PDF
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:18 AM
1

And no, what you are attributing to the average man is not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:07 AM
22

Women see average men as not valuable. Shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:06 AM
1

Millions? Can I get like some link that shows millions of young boys are being molested by older women? You're not slick, I never stated this. I stated that men are the victims of rape by women by the millions There is no concrete data showing who is more likely to rape boys. You know, because most organizations don't gaf Anyways, I'm done talking to you. I'm not going to have someone tell me that I should be happy that I got raped
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:42 AM
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No it’s not absurd and disgusting. It’s the reality of the world we live in. It quite literally isn't. Unless you're trying to say that the government is lying. Secondly, let’s be real, woman on boy rape is typically no where near as traumatizing as the other way around It very much so is. Please tell me and millions of men how we feel though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:33 AM
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It's not. For insurance, the CDC was able to confirm this 4 times by actually asking men if a woman has forced them to have sex. That is four different studies showing this, and they are national studies, the same studies in which case have been used for the last decade by feminists to argue that they are justified in abusing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:25 AM
5

This is a absurd, disgusting response. I'm not sure how it didn't occur to you, but a man (or boy) can't just beat the shit out of a woman trying to rape him, even if he's conscious. That's the fastest way to end up dead or in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:22 AM
1

Women. Women rape men far more than men. Or are you going to try the "women forcing men to have sex isn't rape" argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:11 AM
4

Imagine being homophobic simply because I noted that I'm not interested in being in the company of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:57 PM
3

I don't like women, nor do I want any of those things. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:51 PM
6

I think this might be partially due to internalized misogyny Peak tier irony. It can't be that people just dgaf about men, nah never that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:47 PM
5

Nah. Y'all don't, he shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:44 PM
-1

Tell her to kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:41 PM
11

Nah, some men there's no woman for for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:40 PM
21

They don't care. We're purses to women.
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/22 11:37 PM
-3

Men are stopping, and women are resorting to raping men and shaming them for not being rich HVM that can give them the lifestyle they want for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:31 PM
3

And then you belittle any man who does any of this, or nod your head in agreement when a woman slanders a man for saying this. Men Aren't stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:28 PM
6

Women don't like men, women like getting shit from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:26 PM
8

All of those things either effect men just as much, or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:25 PM
32

Women overwhelmingly refuse to ask men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:24 PM
12

She went bisexual for a bit then claimed that she "understood what being a guy felt like"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:23 PM
7

Translation: I view men as wallets. Birkin effect in full swing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:21 PM
1

Am I supposed to be kind to people that don't care about me as a human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:25 PM
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They are saying that they are prioritizing women over men solely because they are women. Under the equality act of 2010, that is not legal, especially considering that in the UK, the overwhelming majority of casualties involved in roadside incidents are male. It's actually even more so illegal because they would actually have a leg to stand on if they were discriminating for men, as there is leeway in the law for discrimination in the case of needing to protect a group that is more vulnerable. B…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 06:58 PM
19

Also it just occurred to me that they literally went out and admitted that they are breaking the law and are doing it in secret. Well, not anymore of course.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:31 PM
19

The problem here is that many male issues have nothing to do with men themselves, and are in fact creations of feminism (see: DV and SA laws, discrimination in military service laws, social service discrimination, etc). That's why this reads like chicken masculinity rebranded: because it's blaming men for things men didn't do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:22 PM
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That would require the movement to address male issues. Considering that the entire movement is based around side skirting men, except to exploit them for the advancement of feminist agendas, that would fall apart. Feminism works because of the empathy gap. So no, I do not believe that feminism would work with the inclusion of men, unless it's men being slaves and meat shields (aka now).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:19 PM
36

Find it extremely ironic that a woman is trying to tell men how much anxiety they feel waiting around in the dark far away from home.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/22 05:15 PM
2

They unironically think that as long as a man can work he's fine
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/22 05:12 PM
1

You have no fucking idea what I have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:06 PM
1

You did not. I'm quite literally telling you that you did not. You decided to straw man my argument by hyperspecified on men, when I was talking about men as a class. If you're not going to actually engage with my argument, you don't bother replying to me. I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:38 PM
4

And you are completely ignoring the actual argument I'm making by trying to create a situation that I wasn't even talking about in the first place. Don't bullshit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:31 PM
2

Men*, women just followed along because it was convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:30 PM
7

They absolutely do. You are simply complaining about limits that some won't. Don't bullshit me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:28 PM
2

Sure bud, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:44 PM
3

This ignores that men are more likely to get harmed in these situations.
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/22 01:02 PM
2

Dude take a moment and process your thoughts and explain what you're trying to say a bit more clearly. I am very clearly saying what I mean. Men don't simply say fuck everyone, I'm doing for me and me only. They put limits on themselves, often to their own detriment. Women don't, have never, nor will ever. There is no extended meaning to any of what I said, it's not that deep. Fact that you can understand this is not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:53 PM
1

This is actually the most ridiculous shit I've seen on this sub https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:36 PM
5

And yet men still put limits on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:30 PM
1

So are you trying to say that the doctrine of women and children first wasn't created by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:29 PM
8

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:28 PM
2

Where do you think women and children came from
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:41 AM
7

Men don't. Men put limiters on themselves overall in society even with an upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:34 AM
1

Not western culture, and by that I mean literally only advocate for themselves with no give
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/22 10:33 AM
17

When women get control, they start being unreasonable. Shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:24 AM
1

I am glad that I am not interested in women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:44 PM
7

Yes. Feminism has always been like it is today.
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/22 10:18 PM
-1

Yes, on virtually everything. pay gaps Despite there being virtually no difference in pay, because, you know, it's illegal, women make up the overwhelming majority of the buying power and pretty much every Western Nation. This is bunk. legalized discrimination You mean like how the VAW act literally allows organizations to call men rapists despite being raped? Or how about how organizations that are supposed to regulate things regarding title nine completely ignoring victims if they just so happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:17 PM
5

No. That was the beginnings of women fighting for liberation from men, and Puritan women fighting for the, at the time, modern temperance movement (which in reality is one and the same, as the impetus for the temperance movement was that women were claiming men getting drunk and beating them being the norm).
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/22 09:56 PM
15

Feminism has never, nor will ever support any initiative for men's rights
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/22 09:07 PM
-2

I never said that this was going to be a thing that actually happens, for sure notion that the government was not going to be on the side of women would disqualify this from actually happening
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:00 PM
1

I don't want to get married in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:38 PM
0

This is why not only will I never marry a woman, I will never get in a relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:37 PM
3

Marrying a woman is and objective loss
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:35 PM
1

That is literally the reason for this. Women should not be able to finesse men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:33 PM
2

That's because she knows the implications. She knows that a typical man won't just accuse his wife for no reason of infidelity, that a man knows the results of doing something like that. This woman is just gaslighting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:17 PM
-1

If it's a federal mandate they can't say no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:14 PM
-1

Nah, a woman should not be able to so easily finesse a man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:13 PM
3

Dog wtf is this
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/22 08:08 PM
1

Sure. The name is Becoming a Monster: Moving Through the Abusive Hellscape of Life by me, Sin Lorraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:11 PM
1

I'd rather not just post it out, as I did publish it. I'm not going through and putting myself through that pain for nothing after all. I would be fine with sending it out personally however.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:40 PM
2

This has been the case for over a century.
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/22 05:02 PM
1

I don't harass women, I stay far away from women. Your statement doesn't apply
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:55 PM
6

Wtf did I just read
/r/AntiFeminists21/01/22 03:16 PM
1

I'm a man actually, and sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:07 PM
-1

Why does there need to be a “head of the household”? Can’t it just be a partnership? Women don't want partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:01 PM
2

But we both know that won't be allowed, not when meat shields are needed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/22 11:48 AM
5

I'll be quite comfortable sitting in solitary for 5 years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/22 11:44 AM
6

I don't care if I signed a contract just to go to school and get proper social services. If they try to take me away, I will refuse. I'd rather die.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/22 11:39 AM
3

All serious science begins with Maya Angelou quotes. I am unaware of the reference, I'll look her up later. Also, you wrote a book? Yes, I felt the need to write my thoughts down, and wanted to share them with people. Just got fully published on Amazon this morning actually. If you want to read it, I can send you a PDF copy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:38 AM
7

That's so messed up man I'm so sorry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/22 11:27 AM
17

After reading through this thread a bit and seeing the blatantly dismissive comments by women, it reminded me of this excerpt from a feminist named Mary Koss. She literally makes the argument on pages 206-207 that it should not be considered rape if a man is forced to have sex with a woman, and if you record the data in such a fashion, male rape disappears statistically. She's still in tenure at the University of Arizona, and her "research" was the basis for the NISVS studies, which was the basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:25 AM
2

I can say the same thing about women hitting on men. Why is that not an option for y'all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:14 AM
9

This is an absurdly misandrist statement. Like telling a dark skin person to just get lighter if they want to compete against fairer skinned people. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:11 AM
13

This is ironic given that women actually don't.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/22 07:54 PM
3

After thinking about it for a while, I came to three conclusions: THE RP ROUTE- Basically trying to adopt RP philosophies into their relationship life, but otherwise not change much. THE MGTOW ROUTE- On some level removing themselves from women. Less so men will do this THE BLACK PILL ROUTE- Either commit suicide or lash out against society. This route will especially grow as time passes, especially on the side of suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:15 PM
1

Thanks, and sure, I'll send you a Dropbox link
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:16 PM
1

Hi, So I changed the name, it's now Becoming A Monster instead. And it's out on Kindle! Soon it'll be out for paperback and hardcover as well. But I'm not really in it for the money, if you want a copy, I can send you a PDF
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:06 PM
–

Of course I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:37 AM
2

I'm not debating this person. They're harassing me, so I blocked them. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:35 AM
7

They got me banned. I blocked them, won't go back.
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/22 10:47 PM
13

It's because it's not beneficial for men to be. Damn your feelings, damn mine, if we're not being slaves, we're harming people, apparently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/22 10:46 PM
1

No. YOU are, and it's disgusting.
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/22 09:39 PM
-1

I'm not a man who engages in typical beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:44 PM
1

If you're going by rates from places like the fbi, where the bureau of Justice statistics, in terms of criminal victimizations, and not referencing NISVS estimations, what you find is that the rates are lower because they are not estimations. They are recorded rates of confirmed incidents. Comparing a non estimation with an estimation is not a valid analysis. That's why practically every single governmental organization involved with these sorts of matters are using the NISVS strat to collect es…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:10 PM
4

You don't know anything about me. Kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:05 PM
1

I've seen women somehow come to 1 in 38 men, it's absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:04 PM
3

Even when considering the "made to penetrate" statistics, only 1 in 38 men were victim So you're just going to lie then? Cool.
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/22 08:03 PM
2

Here is a good article on why the cdc data isn't as solid as the NCVS. The NCVS literally uses the NISVS studies for their data. This is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:21 PM
2

If you average it over the entirety of the studies, men are raped more by the CDC estimates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:20 PM
0

Men get an equal conviction rate to woman This is false. Despite men being raped by women at virtually equal raped, women do not get convinced at nearly the rates that men do. Men get convicted at slightly higher than 11% . Women? Less than 1%. You're approaching a factor of 100 of a difference. I agree rape conviction rates are sn issue, and thr stigmatized "men enjoy all sex" narrative is really gross and harmful, but the issue with the justice system is genderless. It's not in this case, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 05:16 PM
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Considering that the justice system doesn't gaf about women raping men, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:57 PM
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This is a typical response on how abusive women respond about their exes. It would not surprise me in the slightest that this person actually did the things he accused him of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:49 PM
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The funny part is that after avoiding women for long enough, you'll become disinterested in having any around you. Just safer/more peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:25 PM
2

I've never harmed a woman in my life. Women have, on the other hand, beat, raped, harassed, and robbed me. I'm not the disgusting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:42 AM
1

The fact that you got that out of my statement is why I stay far away from women. You don't get it, nor do you care to get it. It's fine by you if you're abusive garbage, as long as you get what you want, and your feelings aren't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:39 AM
3

Abusive women should be belittled
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:37 AM
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No shit, he doesn't need permission from you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:35 AM
1

Stop bullshiting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:32 AM
1

First, when a woman mentions her income, a lot of men will state that they don’t care about a woman’s income and aren’t attracted to it This is because that man knows that income has nothing to do with him, and he will never see any real amount of it. Second, when a woman says that she’s independent, men subconsciously understand that it has a direct connotation with freedom (free is a synonym) No. It means that the woman is probably combative at the very least, and abusive at the very worst. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:31 AM
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In the United States, they record women forcing men to have sex as not rape, but being forced to penetrate, then claim that men aren't raped in statistics. This also has the effect of allowing these people to go and say that men are only virtually raped by other men. It's actually disgusting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/22 07:23 AM
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Considering that it's so unlikely that they would even take the cases of women violating men seriously, I doubt that those numbers are even inflated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/22 07:19 AM
48

About girl's feelings
/r/AntiFeminists19/01/22 07:15 AM
2

She likes the birkin but wants more inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:16 PM
1

I've not seen any different in Europe. None of you still have a gender neutral rape law for instance.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 10:16 PM
3

From what I see, that's what women do anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:14 PM
2

Men are still treated as meat shields, workers, sperm banks, purses, and scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:11 PM
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Nah, not just their approval, them in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:10 PM
1

That's not equality. That's WOMEN not getting raped. Just like here in the United states, or elsewhere in the west, they do not care about what happens to men.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 10:09 PM
1

? Did you reply to the wrong comment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:50 PM
2

Well that's why I refuse to be in a relationship with a woman, I don't trust any of you to meet the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:48 PM
1

That only applies to women, society has not changed the way that men are viewed for hundreds of years, that's not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:45 PM
1

And yet, Men all over the planet consistently agree that this is a very quick way of attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:45 PM
6

Considering that it is so prevalent that women cannot even do the bare minimum of pretending to show empathy for even the slightest of sufferings of a man, this is entirely valid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:41 PM
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Literally stop caring about having women in your life. I actively avoid women in my physical presence and they still find a way to try and harass me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:36 PM
3

They won't go for that
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 03:26 PM
7

I swear I remember hearing a woman tell this to me after telling me that I can't get raped by a woman
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 11:31 AM
4

Feminism has never let to equality in any way shape or form
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 10:56 AM
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Interesting. Yea, make a post. EDIT: I just read through a bit of the book. These women are incredibly racist and sexist, and a lot of these women admit to wanting to rape men. The young boys chapter made me so angry.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 10:41 AM
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What's the book name
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/22 10:21 AM
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Either that or you don't believe the CDC, which would make you a disbeliever in science and therefore I wouldn't want to waste anymore time talking to you anyway hahaha. So are you saying that a woman forcing a man to have sex with her is not rape? Or have you not actually read the summary reports published by the NISVS between 2010-2019? Which one is it.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 08:06 PM
1

This is why I don't go around women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:01 PM
3

This is a lie. Why are you lying.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:51 PM
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I think eventually women would grow to become the same perpetrators men are often lambasted as being. Women already are, nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:38 PM
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You didn't read the OP did you
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 08:55 AM
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You must be trolling or an incel. Neither, as I don't fit the description of either. I'm just going to block you because there's no way you're doing any actual research. You not believing in reality doesn't mean anything. The fact is, women lead in being victimized on nearly all fronts. This is an outright lie. The only one men and women are even remotely close to are rape and its 1.6% to 1.7%. This is, again, an outright lie. But even then, men are the ones doing the raping a majority of the ti…
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 08:49 AM
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There isn't. Not rape, not DV, not sexual battery, not aggregated assault. Men get punished for all of the above more for however. You are most likely conflating those two things.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:45 AM
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See what way
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:43 AM
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For that to happen women would have to stop routinely denying the abuse they inflict, and the government has to step in and actually start punishing them.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:14 AM
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It's quite ironic that you used that source, as that source uses the NISVS datasets, which proves the OP wrong.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:13 AM
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They are not willing to see men's issues.
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:06 AM
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That doesn't show me denying men's problems whatsoever. Men get raped, fucking obviously. No shit Sherlock. Women get raped more They don't. In fact, the modern citation from which the 1:5 figure comes from actually showed that men are ~13% more likely to be raped than women are. Surprise surprise, feminists will, and have been attempting to obfuscate this fact since the early 90's, as they don't believe that women forcing men to have sex is even rape. This is where people take issue with your a…
/r/AntiFeminists17/01/22 07:00 AM
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Isolation isn't the solution. I've been the most comfortable I've ever been in my life. I can work and do my research from home, get everything delivered, and not a single woman can abuse me. It is the solution. Have I been mildly tolerable? Women tend to put on an aura of decency online to make themselves appear to be the virtuous beings they believe themselves to be, but in person are no different than women from FDS, sometimes worse if they're also rapey. It's beneficial for them to be too. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:49 AM
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Cool. Next question: have you routinely called out, and tried to get revoked the harmful laws and general falsehoods put forth by these feminists?
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 10:48 PM
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What were you presenting as your standout characteristic? My wanting to listen and appreciate another human being. Women aren't a monolith. Some are awful, most are not. I've yet to meet one of these mythical good women. Change your environment I'm quite comfortable isolating myself. or perhaps be open to considering whether something needs to change about yourself. I did, that resulted in me realizing that I don't need to live for anyone but myself, or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 10:36 PM
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Generally speaking I only correct statements of mistruth, but for example the notion that every single man is a rapist. Otherwise, I don't really comment on men's behavior in general. In my own personal experience, very little men has tried to harm me so I typically don't focus on men in regards to traumas that I have faced, or trauma in general. What's up sure you know, I cannot see the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:31 PM
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I'm so glad I don't date anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:27 PM
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What is your opinion on feminists routinely denying, and advocating against men being violated by women by the millions?
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 06:23 PM
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Are you a troll?
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 06:22 PM
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Interesting! I don't think I've seen any other guy saying this here. Men I think typically agree with this notion, and where I believe a lot of misunderstandings from women come from. Lots of women are under the impression that men, like themselves, will automatically defend other men. Meanwhile many men would throw every man they know off a cliff for 10 minutes of sex. Men simply see women as a far worse threat. If the problems men face by women being abusive, the very next thing to go is the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:22 PM
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but it is also true that women get sexually assaulted more than men There's your citation
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 05:27 PM
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You're still disregarding my overall message that both genders have plenty of problems, and there's no use in trying to neglect that. The only person I have seen consistently deny problems is you.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 03:38 PM
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who was doing the vetting and how did you present yourself? As in what did you make your USP? Me, friends, my mother. Tried a lot of different things, but mainly tried presenting my best self. I don't know what USP means in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:36 PM
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Ok I'm guessing the large proportion of that number is online. Around 35% or so. I'm guessing you believe that women are generally hypergamous ? I haven't decided. I will say that seems to be an easy in to exploiting men as much as possible, so it should be the "meta" in Western society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:34 PM
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Thousands? Can I ask, in what capacity? In person and online. it's also known that men are also reluctant to open up to other men. That's why I said people. It applies less so however to men. We're talking about relationships though. How many subs exist for positive stuff over negative. The largest relationship subs are positive. Usually shit about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 01:07 PM
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So what you're telling me is, the people who spearhead all of the moves for advocacy, the people that you follow behind blindly, the people that all of your peers follow behind blindly, and push on with their mandates, mandates that are inherently anti men, you disagree with them, but you're not going to stop them? Peak tier irony
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 09:36 AM
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Can you provide to me one instance in which case that feminism has advocated for anything that does not either obfuscate a major wrongdoing on the part of women, does not affect the men in the slightest, or just in general hurts men.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 09:33 AM
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So I was trying to reason with someone who I thought was “anti feminist” if you get what I mean. I am anti-feminist. Unlike feminists, I'm not here outright lying about things, and supporting outright lies, like women not beating and raping men on any discernable level. That doesn't suddenly mean that men are angels. Men are increasingly targeted for punishment however. Women aren't. Men, since the beginning of time, are much more violent and abusive This is not substantiated in any way. I can h…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 09:27 AM
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You see that is a massive generalization. The same exact type of generalization that men specifically in this sub probably hate. You can simply answer with no. “Tell me, do you actually understand just how violent/rapey men are?” An estimated 1.5 million women are raped by men every year in the US As of 2015. Iirc that number drops to around 300k if the victim is a man. Despite having a lower amount of domestic assault victims, women are more often given injuries that can send them to the hospit…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 08:52 AM
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We all deserve the best out of life. So you should agree then that the ideology that you stand for is deeply opposed to what Men actually getting any sort of Justice or support, and oftentimes advocates for the exact opposite of what would need to be done for men to get Justice or support, especially if it's in regards to women abusing men. My question then becomes, why are you in support of that ideology? That seems incredibly contradictatory.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 06:14 AM
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I've only ever had one male friend come to me about being raped, and he was terrified to tell anyone because of how they may react. This statement right here is white with everything you are saying is deeply ironic, and shameful. It did not occur to you that there's a reason for that.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 06:12 AM
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Plenty of people throwing hissy fits because I mentioned that women are assaulted more than men. People aren't throwing hissy fits, that is just objectively incorrect. There is not a single form of assault in which case women are higher victims of. At least, not in the united states, there could be another society in which case that is the case.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 06:10 AM
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I don't see men denying anything here
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:35 AM
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You're disgusting
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:24 AM
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It is so ironic that women trying to emulate men end up being deeply misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:23 AM
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Are men treated like sexual objects? Yes. Are men taught to fear going out in public? Yes. Many just ignore that as it's not congruent to getting a partner. Do men get catcalled on a daily basis? Worse, women harass us just as much. Or called sluts, whores, hoes, by people who they don't even know? And dirty bums on top of all of that, maybe even assaulted. When was the last time a man was told he couldn't wear short shorts outside because a woman might try to grab him? Almost never, it's expect…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:20 AM
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It is so often bullshit that people don't believe it. Tell me, do you actually understand just how violent/rapey women are?
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:14 AM
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Feminism has never been good, unless you're predicator of goodness is fighting for women to get a step up, irregardless of the consequences.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:12 AM
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so why can't we just agree, come halfway to the middle and say BOTH genders have their own problems? Women routinely deny the problems men face, like republicans deny economic problems.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:11 AM
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Show me one instance of feminists fighting for men to be put on equal footing with women legally in any way shape or form, instead of doing things like, say for instance, trying to reshape statistics to make it appear as though men are not raped by women.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:09 AM
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Then don't wonder why men hate what you stand for
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 04:06 AM
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In regards to women, they don't care about what happens to men.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 03:42 AM
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Serious question: have any of you talked to both men and women who identify as feminists? Yea, they're usually ignorant on what men as a class go through. Most of the posts here seem to not understand what feminism is. Most feminists don't understand the history or academic/advocacy of feminism. That's why there's this prevalent belief that it's about a quality, when nothing about feminism has ever been about equality. This sub is called anti-feminists, but the content that is pushed is anti-wom…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/22 03:41 AM
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And what of the 300+ replies on this thread? Opposed to the thousands upon thousands of men I've talked to. I'm not buying the bullshit. On your observations, maybe you are unwittingly attracted to a certain personality type? When I tried to select for such via vetting, I got the same results. I'm no longer attracted to women. Also, this wasn't just women I was interested in. This is every woman that I've ever met. I've never not met a woman that actually cares about a man, but rather the things…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:35 AM
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The woman who rape =/= all woman the same way that the man who repe =/= all men. Unlike men, most women refuse to sell out their peers for being disgusting abusers. You're being extremely unreasonable I don't care. and making shit up I'm not. Unless you can provide to me a study showing that women aren't forcing men into having sex, and that study actually investigates such. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:27 AM
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Most men that are raped aren't raped in prison. The ones who are, are raped by female staff largely. You are making excuses for women being demonic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:45 PM
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Do other people's problems not matter than? Only rape? Of course they do. I can't do anything for them however, I don't live in those societies. Women here ignoring their peers literally raping men by the millions don't have that separation. I never said they don't care, I said they can't fix it Bullshit. They can start by literally stop lying and actually admit it for one. Push for the law to be changed to be held accountable. But women refuse to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:54 PM
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I tend to just ignore that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:44 AM
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I'm going to just report and block you for trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 11:42 AM
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What do you mean inconclusive? Unless you can't do math or comparative analysis of numbers, it's quite literally there in black and white, throughout the studies. if its such a true statement surely other sources will confirm it right? This set of studies (it's not just one) is the largest of it's kind, and pretty much every study involved in US figures are just meta analysis of these. Did you actually even read the summary reports?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:41 AM
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According to? BJS Depending on who their abuser is this community would high-five them for it or call them names for calling it abuse. There's quite a lot of problematic people here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 09:34 AM
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That is incorrect. Ironic to your statement though, the overwhelming majority victims of pedophilia are boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:50 AM
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Don’t assume thangs. You didn't answer the question. I didn't assume anything. In fact, you made the assumption that the CDC defined rape as something that would encapsulate every actual form of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:22 AM
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This is such cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:18 AM
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They see them as wonderful purses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:17 AM
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They are in the sense that these are the logical conclusions of these four pillars typically. Meet a random person on any of these four quadrants and if you take their argument on why men commit suicide, their argument's conclusion matches these things.
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/22 05:16 AM
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There are women so diluted that unironically thinks that men cannot be raped as they will always enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:13 AM
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Ironically, you, without reading the actual full dataset that this fact sheet comes from, are bold to actually make this statement. Like, are you one of those misandrists that believe that women forcing men to have sex isn't rape, or are you just willfully ignorant and avoid any data showing otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:11 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/index.html Data is in the summary reporte
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:07 AM
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And nobody is capable of talking about every issue that exists in the world. I'm confused on how this is comparable. Women harming me, and millions of men just like me RIGHT HERE should be of enough proximity for y'all to give a fuck. I'm expected to give a fuck when y'all have to suffer through literally anything right here. I bet you never payed attention to the natives living in the Amazon who are getting killed by people from wood traffic I chose that topic and the issue Venezuelan citizenry…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:06 AM
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Most robust dataset showing such is the NISVS studies. Comparison of all rape cases (rape and made to penetrate) between men and women show such.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:59 AM
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Society, particularly women does not give an iota of a fuck if men are abused by women. By saying ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING as it happens constantly by the millions is allowing it. You all are quite literally turning a blind eye to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:58 AM
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Source that MOST men are raped by a woman? I have only seen data supporting the opposite. That's because you probably haven't ever actually read the data. Unless you are a misandrist that believes that women forcing men to have sex with them by any means necessary isn't rape, which is even worse of a take
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:42 AM
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??????????? Where did you get this from Looking at the NISVS studies from the CDC, comparing the rates of men being raped (rape and made to penetrate because I'm not a misandrist and think that women forcing men to have sex isn't rape) compared to the same for women over 12 month periods. Their lifetime rates is not reliable for men being raped, as data for that has not been collected long enough to get an accurate estimate. On top of this, prison rape is a thing. Women prison officials take adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:40 AM
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Women rape men just as much as men rape women and yet nobody does anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:24 AM
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A large portion of posters on here are basically saying women not being attracted to them is causing them mental health issues, depression and suicidal tendencies This is factually true for many normally functioning men. and implying women are morally obligated to negate this by showing them attraction/affection/sex Very little people are doing so. What most men say is that women who claim to see this and say that there is a problem deny the actual solution in every way possible, and something h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:23 AM
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Would you rather be lonely and sexless, or be forcibly anally penetrated by a big burly gay man? Considering that most men that are raped are raped by a woman, this is kinda silly. I'd rather be left alone however.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:18 AM
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So would you agree that society in general is immoral for allowing women to abuse men and virtually never punish them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:15 AM
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None of those people care. Luckily, I stopped wanting anyone around
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 01:13 AM
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I've been through the system since I was 8, so I hope so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:22 AM
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It's multiple issues. I suppose I can generally break it down for you: The first problem I'd say is the mentality of the people who see you, the therapists and psychiatrists. Whether it be their training or social conditioning, the people there have this "broken man is bad for society viewpoint. By that, I mean that they are not concerned with the fact that it is highly likely that you were traumatized to the point to where you struggle to even be living to even go to see them, they are more con…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:54 PM
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To take a prime example, according to the CDC, women force men to have sex just as much as men do to women. Looking at the NISVS studies, they're both averaging to around 1.5 million estimated victimizations a year. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/index.html The only reason why this is ignored is because of feminist activism making women forcing men into intercourse not seen as rape, as the overwhelming majority of the incidents it's just vanilla sex, just a woman forcin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:26 PM
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Observation of women I have met, and listening to men speak on how they saw women's view on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:58 AM
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You probably weren't attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:57 AM
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or vet like "actually make relationship decisions based on what their sign is"? This Because if it's the second one, that's crazy, dawg Women have such a large amount of men coming to the mass shooters that they can think of absolutely wild things to vet men based off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:50 AM
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Your girlfriends were emotionally immature and, in my opinion, rather bitchy That description he gave of woman is virtually every woman a man is going to meet in their entire life. I've yet to meet a woman not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:46 AM
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Women as a class do not care about what men are going through, even on the most basic level of showing emotions from a powerful statement in Media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:45 AM
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I'm not attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:44 AM
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Sure have, then I walked off, and apparently the door hit her because she stood there and let it, then accused me of assaulting her.
/r/AntiFeminists14/01/22 08:43 AM
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I have met several women who actually vet men based off of astrology. Too many.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:41 AM
1

That doesn't make it any less stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:39 AM
1

No, we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:38 AM
1

That doesn't make it not stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:37 AM
1

Damn that, women can rape men and nobody cares
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:33 AM
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Seeing how frequently people have been assaulted and raped has only validated that fear further. Do you see women in the same light considering that they are just as violent/rapey?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:31 AM
1

It's not tainting, it's enlightening
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:28 AM
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The problem with that is mental health resources are inherently anti men the way that they are constructed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:07 AM
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Reconstruction of society to stop being anti-male. If people actually see men as worthy things to exist outside of status and resources, people are more likely to see more men as worthwhile being around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:02 AM
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The title is Becoming a Demon, and Moving Through the Hellscape of Life by Sin Lorraine. Since you're interested, I'll send you an ebook copy when it's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:33 PM
-1

Would you trust a group of people who rape and beat you and people like you en masse, and then have every single social structure from volunteer groups to the government denying protection, justice, and healing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:11 AM
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I'm not really red pill, but the notion that the overwhelming majority of women in X society doesn't engage in Y common behavior, so much so that finding a woman that doesn't is practically impossible is not a stretch. For instance, I've yet to meet a single woman that actually cares about men as humans. Not one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:06 AM
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Or don't want to be in a relationship. Apparently I'm black pulled because I'm not interested in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:01 AM
1

Money. They're abusing that man for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:59 AM
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Before I decided to stop interacting with women for relationship purposes, I thought about it, and figured that someone wanting congruent sexualities is more so if a political statement. Like, I want to spread this sexuality as a norm, as it's a norm for me. In the same way, people who want incongruent sexualities it's a similar statement, as day and away want to change people's minds about their own sexuality (ex: a game and being attracted to specifically straight men). If you looked at it fro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/22 01:00 AM
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They like that I'm a male feminist I'm quite positive it's just this part
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/22 08:51 AM
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It's the exact opposite, and you know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:37 AM
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But if that treatment was that of how a MALE human being was treated, they would not stand for it for ten whole seconds. This continuously flies over the head of every single one of them, they fundamentally don't understand how they treat men on a day-to-day basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:31 AM
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And yet men who are in relationships seem to agree that women in relationships with them complain a lot, interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:28 AM
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I don't GG
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:26 AM
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That man is a W
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/22 02:26 AM
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I'm simply adding on additional context. If these instances of rape were to be added, men being raped would be in the clear majority in fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 01:24 PM
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And then the crazy part about it is, if you actually go and ask them, it will seem as though these concepts haven't even occurred to them, and yet they claim to be of an intellectual mind. It's absurd, and oftentimes simply insulting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 07:00 AM
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Ah okay I understand what you are saying now. Yes, it's the same case here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/22 06:57 AM
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I'm fine. Being alone is comfortable. Better than being tortured.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:44 AM
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It's beyond talking to them, I don't want to be abused anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:46 PM
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I'm too afraid of women to befriend them. Frankly, all of you terrify me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:38 PM
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I genuinely think feminism conditions women to loose their empathy and compassion for men. We talk about the gender empathy gap a great deal (and I’m weirdly happy and dismayed to see it coming up again). I think that nature sadly plays a great deal in it, but I am deeply convinced that nurture plays an even bigger role. I think it's even far worse than this. Feminism has ingrained this mentality that all men are good for is what society has generally used men for: meat shields and capital slave…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/22 11:37 PM
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No, that's just a statistical fact. I don't go where women are anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:30 PM
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I'm very used to the concept of women not caring about what happens to men in any way, shape, or form, nor care about them as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:29 PM
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What is this referencing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/22 11:27 PM
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This is the expected response. Thank you for proving his point. I hope men divest in droves
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:42 PM
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That short conversation is all I needed to see. Without any effort, without actually looking at the sources provided, you decided that I was wrong, because, in effect, it's not what you've been told. You quite literally do not give a fuck about the reality of what men go through, because that has no bearing on you. That is filth to me. I am disgusted by people who have this mindset about the suffering of men. That is the one and only reason. You are just wrong, in every way, shape, and form. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:44 AM
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That is my opinion on you. You don't know my opinion on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:37 AM
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I’m not reading a 30 page report to find a statement that I know isn’t true. This is such an ironic statement. Also, none of the reports are that short. I'm not going to engage with someone like you though. There's no point in discussing with filth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:34 AM
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As of 2015, it says1 in 5 women vs 1 in 14 men, and it doesn’t say those men were made to penetrate by a woman. As expected, you didn't bother to actually read the reports. You went straight to the short fact sheets that don't actually state all of the facts. That article doesn’t give examples. I want to see what you would consider withholding sex, as opposed to a woman just not wanting to have sex. I always see men conflate the two. I literally gave you examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:26 AM
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Lol thinking women are Faberge eggs to be coddled is not caring about us. It quite literally is. Seeing that entity as something valuable enough to trade your life for just because they exist, in the hopes that they can continue to exist is the epitome of caring about that person. The humanity aspect comes in when they see that value increase for your humanistic traits. Women cannot be replaced by robots and this type of man would treat them the same. You cannot say the same about women. When wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:20 AM
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Gonna need a source for that first statement. The CDC has published studies under the NISVS showcasing this. If you look into the reports, you would compare the number of male victims to the number of female victims in rape, and in being made to penetrate. As to the second, can you give a concrete example? This article is an accurate Description on how the act is harmful. Women often then basically assert that for this abuse to end, the man must do something. Do a lions share of the chores. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:15 AM
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Most men are not raped in prison, they are raped by women in close proximity to them. Men in prison are raped tho, by female prison guards
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/22 11:06 AM
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If you look at the categorizations in the NISVS data through all of the years of study (2010-2012, 2014-2015), you will find that there's two categories that would fit the modern "nonconsensual sex" definition of rape: Being Made to penetrate, and Rape. The vast majority of male victims between both categories are under being made to penetrate (it's about 80% of the total). In addition, if you take the 12 month study, the data they had for that year of collection, and average it over the 5 years…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/22 11:04 AM
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People think I'm insane or a violent hateful person for thinking this as well. Which is absolutely wild to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:53 AM
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There are men who do actually care about women as people. So many in fact that the doctrine of "women and children" still exists widely to this day. Men often are quite ready to give up their lives for women. Women are not prepared to do the same for any man. Why would they, women see men as replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:51 AM
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Women rape men just as much as men rape women. On top of this, it is common for women to dangle sex as a carrot in front of men they are in relationships to do things for them. None of this is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:50 AM
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This language reeks of the belief that men are tools of pleasure and gain that you own. Men are not your goddamn property.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:47 AM
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Anything from using sex as a bait (and probably not giving it) to get a man to do something, whether it be financial gain, physical labor, etc.) to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:43 AM
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I will. Should be this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:04 AM
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Women do not care about men as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:49 AM
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I'm sort of writing a book on this. Long story short is that men are viewed as disposable by society and women, and that can end up with a lot of trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:30 AM
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I'll pass
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:04 AM
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Men aren't going to find someone that actually cares about them as a human being. Women can find a man like that. There's also an actual selection to be had for women. There is none for an average man. That's the difference here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:03 AM
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They also end up getting abused and abandoned
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:00 AM
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Women are often very violent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:58 AM
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I was diagnosed with MDD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:55 AM
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Women don't like men, so that's not gonna happen
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:15 PM
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Having moved extensively all my life This is exactly why you DON'T.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:11 PM
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They all did, why I don't have one anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:11 PM
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I don't leave my home, and most things bore me. I'd rather actually sleep forever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:10 PM
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I've been through 31.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:09 PM
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I'm not trying to go to church, I'm an Atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:09 PM
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I'm not mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:08 PM
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Them not killing themselves doesn't mean that they are actually getting better. They're either being drugged or gaslit into feeling shane for their thoughts. In addition, men who commit suicide usually actually go get therapy beforehand, it just ends up not helping, and they realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:37 PM
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Men get raped by women just as much as women, and are far less likely than women at getting Justice (less than a percent vs about 11%).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:35 PM
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Absolutely nothing. Why I don't leave my home.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:29 PM
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How do you know she wouldn't have cared about you in the past Women don't care about men at all in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:03 PM
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Your goal is a good relationship with a stable person who cares about you You think that is guaranteed or easy, for either gender ? Women have a chance to get this. Women don't see men as humans, so men have zero chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:56 AM
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Twice? That's it? Rookie numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:54 AM
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As if the current system actually helps men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:54 AM
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After observing my life, and many others lives, I will say that this grass is greener shit doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:53 AM
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Therapy doesn't help men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:51 AM
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Are you going to tell the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:51 AM
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Women aren’t known for harassing men they find attractive. This is absurdly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:40 AM
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No. Men are not tolerated in doing so. Women do these behaviors just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:40 AM
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I've yet to see otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:39 AM
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I don't think you understand how much logistics would be involved in someone uprooting unless they just cut all ties and dip
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:37 AM
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That doesn't mean that it's a realistic solution for the vast majority
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:33 AM
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I would be absolutely for having male only spaces, I would actually leave my home if they existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:32 AM
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I very highly doubt this. Even heterosexual women can't behave themselves around men they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:31 AM
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In regards to ipv base situations, no, is actually higher as a ratio. In terms of commonplace violence, it's like say a stranger at a gym, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if that ratio was still higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:30 AM
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And yet the same women will photograph and gawk at men. A lot of them will even be as bold as to go up and try to touch the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:29 AM
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It's even more of an imperative for men, because not only are these things the exact same for men, it's even worse, because not only will nobody believe you if a woman were to abuse her position around you, that woman can accuse you of doing so and the chances of you being hurt by that accusation is higher. If Mel only spaces existed come I would probably actually go out of my home again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:27 AM
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The outcome is to have a happy marriage and a good life. If being with a non-American can increase the chances of that outcome becoming more likely, why wouldn't it be an appropriate solution? The outcome is to not be with an abusive woman. You don't have to seek women elsewhere, uprooting your entire life to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:24 AM
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I mean if you wish to showcase a woman that actually sees a man as a human, and treats him as such, be my guest. You'll be the first. EDIT: In addition, recognition of the fact that women don't see men as humans says nothing about my view to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:21 AM
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I did change my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:20 AM
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I think women in general are as bad as western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:15 AM
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It's much easier to just say damn looking for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:14 AM
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Yes. Let's just up and move. Damn the financial and social ramifications. Damn the fact that it's not even possible really given the global pandemic. If you don't like it, just move!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:13 AM
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Physical beatings, sexual manipulation, brow beating/gaslighting, etc. Abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:09 AM
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Why do you think it's an appropriate solution in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 03:32 AM
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What you're not understanding is that the people's problem. This is not equivalent of a calculator, nor is it useful for most people to look at the data in the fashion that you are displaying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:48 AM
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I don't care. If you believe that I hate women because I don't see any evidence of women actually caring about men as people, that's not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:58 PM
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Ah, no, it's not that, it's that feminism encourages them to have bad behavior.
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/22 11:56 PM
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Who, men?
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/22 11:39 PM
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Women can love men for many things. No. Women can love things that men bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:37 PM
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Men women are attracted to in more than just looks tend to look at socioeconomic status. It's however different thresholds. You might be high enough to get used and abused then left. Even higher, she might just let you be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:33 PM
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Women will abuse a "lower status" man for a period of time then leave, that's the difference. The 80/20 rule manifests itself differently in real life, but it's still there. Just worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:30 PM
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Men are not equal to women anywhere
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/22 11:27 PM
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Mostly it’s explanations like „women loose ability to pair bond“ or „promiscuous women are cheaters“ or „women with high n count are alpha widowed“ or whatever. These are explanations for the explanation, I suppose. Further context to why they dislike the risky behavior in the first place. Statistically, women who have had tons of partners will be more likely to cheat. In addition, it will be a lot shorter time before they do, and they're more likely to cheat with multiple people. Those reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:21 PM
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Feminism was originally about free choice. For women. Not for men.
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/22 11:18 PM
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Women are more violent than men in every category than actually Killing someone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:15 PM
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Going to get an STD panel is just standard. I've done it before. The key is saying that you will BOTH do it. You think that actually matters to them? Do you have a real life example of that? My uncle was almost trapped into having to pay for kids that weren't his. The woman had her own place, he'd have her come over, she had things there so she had more or less "moved in" based on precedent where he lived. She hid those kids for four years just by never talking about them. You said crazy ex's. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:09 PM
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But it is by no means necessary that someone who is promiscuous checks these boxes. Men are often not willing to take the risk. They are not interested in further investigation. It's easier to just move on. And men don’t get shamed for not dating single mothers, at least I wouldn’t say that it would be justified. You not personally doing so doesn't mean that there is a large sum of women that do so. Again, you are free to prefer women who are not promiscuous. But you shouldn’t become offensive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:05 PM
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Ask for a full STD panel and go together. Women often see this as bad as accusing them of being a whore. From my observation, something to the effect of "what, you don't trust me? I told you the number is low, why are you disrespecting me?" Basically, they go into full gas lighting. you're going to find out pretty quickly if she's got kids or not. It's not hard to hide kids from someone. As for crazy ex's...what about crazy dudes who are bothering you because you WON'T date them? This has absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:55 PM
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This is not making any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:50 PM
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Considering how much lying I've seen and heard from women about the most insignificant shit, it would not surprise me that men initially picked this metric during the sexual revolution to get a more accurate barometer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:08 PM
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And if women start vetting men for the same reason, I don't think most men would actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:05 PM
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That is actually the point of men not wanting a woman with a high body count. They see it as a risk for adverse outcomes and want no parts. It has little to do with the sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:04 PM
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The difference is that a woman who has had a lot of sex in the past doesn’t have to suffer from STDs or crazy exes. Having lots of past partners increases this risk. If you are trying to say it doesn't, you are not living in reality. If you’d say, I don’t want my partner to have STDs or kids, no one would think you’re insecure. Men are shamed all of the time for not wanting to date single mothers. So this is a definite wrong. But framing it as if the promiscuity would be the problem here and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:00 PM
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I did, you just refuse to engage. Which is fine, you can be a dishonest person. I won't be engaging with you any longer tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:56 PM
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Your writing is not clear. If you could write better, I would understand better, so I try to guess a bit. Guesses may be wrong. I apologies, I was voice typing, as I had a really bad migraine and couldn't see very well. I will try to clear up any misunderstandings. That framing will not work because the goal is not power It's actually what I'm saying, that the goal for these types of women is power. They wish to be validated by their peers, in a position of power, to recognize their intelligence…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:19 AM
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That is not even remotely close to what I just said
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:15 AM
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By the same logic, a man could worry about the things that a woman did in her past and how that could affect him. Crazy exes, STDs, kids he might end up having to raise, etc How is this any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:59 AM
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The glass ceiling is a figment of people's imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:54 AM
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It's not clear what you mean next. But pushing an agenda by being combative rather than thoughtful and measured is not going to go well You're right, it isn't, men in positions of power are becoming increasingly uncomfortable with engaging with women in ways which case they can gain their own power in places like work. Intelligence is not toxic. Agreeableness is a separate issue to intelligence. I never disagreed with this statement. The fact that people still to this day haven't figured that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:05 AM
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If you get offended by what others wear, perhaps you should just stay home and never come out. I never said that I was offended. In fact, I have quite literally said that I don't go out anymore because of the exact opposite, that literally was assaulted. But it seems like you just skipped over that, so I'm going to make it very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:01 AM
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It won't ever unless men do what women did and stop being kind in return.
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/22 06:59 AM
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Na, not really. I'm just completely disinterested in women now. It occurred to me that my chances of not being abused by someone is zero, thus why bother? I'd rather be by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:45 AM
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Try it, might as well. I'm actually curious as to what you would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:33 AM
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I've been told, throughout attempting to get any sort of Justice or support for being violated by women multiple times, that either didn't have him, it doesn't matter that it happened, or that shouldn't be mad that it happened, or else my fault that would happen, and all but one experience that I can think of was by women.
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/22 01:32 AM
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I feel like I can actually guarantee that if you try to guess, you would get it incorrect. In fact, I'll bet money on it, I bet you 20 bucks that you cannot get the correct answer on the first try.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:30 AM
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Yes, not only is it that a large chunk of men ever actually have sex, most men spend years without actually having sex or getting in any sort of healthy relationship. That's not shifting a goal post, as that wasn't even the issue at hand when I said that statement. But I was talking about was that women manipulate and abuse men, with the pretext of then believing that they have a chance at a relationship with them when in reality they're just trying to use that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:29 AM
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The vast majority of men do not do either of those things, is actually a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:26 AM
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The fact that you still think that it has anything to do with intelligence and everything to do with the kind of person you actually are tells me that you're not actually going to have a husband for very long, because he's not going to be able to put up with you, it's going to start either showing behaviors that you're not going to like, ending up and you divorcing him, or he's just going to leave you. Good too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:26 AM
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This is getting too crazy. We started with being loud and aggressive, then boastful was added. Now we have come to "seeking approval" for intelligence she may or may not have?? I've been saying the same thing the entire time, just elaborating more and more in the hopes that you will understand. Seems like you're still not getting it. The KKK Please do not bullshit me. I am not in the mood. One woman? You're going to defend your negative generalization of women and feminism based on ONE woman's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:24 AM
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Read into the philosophy of positive rudeness more, and its proven psychological effects. It very much so is my original claim, and it's only one of many examples what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:01 AM
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You find men that don't want to be partners with complete assholes to be weak, and believe that you are intimidating them by being an asshole That IS insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:37 AM
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It's fair to say we've come to an understanding now that you believe intelligence in men will sometimes make them selfish and aggressive but in women will always make them selfish and aggressive. It's not the intelligence itself, it's the seeking of approval of others for your intelligence, whether you have it or not, as well as maintaining that intelligence. Also, I don't believe that it will necessarily always lead to a woman becoming an asshole, I've simply never seen a woman not. Now, will y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:38 PM
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https://www.institutelm.com/resourceLibrary/can-positive-rudeness-help-women-in-the-workplace.html I'm not sure what kind of rock you've been sleeping under, but this has been a major component of women's empowerment since the 50's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:21 PM
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How is any of what you are saying benefitting men, like at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:18 PM
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We all know male on male violence happens more than male on female, but people don’t care, it’s not that they are unaware. I agree with this, that was my point of taking it a step further. Pawn looking up my original sentence, I think there was a typo with the voice typing (I can't see very well right now), my apologies. Basically they don't care even if they do know. It doesn't hurt them either way, what men's experience in life in general is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:16 PM
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I don't think this no. In fact, I'll take it a step further and say that most women don't even think about how the vast majority of violence and oppression doesn't even happen to them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:54 PM
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Women recognize their experience is far better than men’s Women lie about this all of the time, or have zero clue what men actually go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:52 PM
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I didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:50 PM
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Are you seriously trying to tell me that women do not insult, demean, or intentionally try to belittle men they seem unworthy of them simply from approaching them? Hell, women will do this even if the approach is simply about men telling women that there's something wrong with them, like they have something hanging from their car, or lost their wallet or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:50 PM
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You haven't once addressed the reason that I posited on why this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:46 PM
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Did you even read what I said? Because I did not come close to saying such.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:46 PM
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That is statistically correct
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:45 PM
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The difference is that women are encouraged to do this kind of behavior, men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:23 PM
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Women constantly gaslight men into believing that they are otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:21 PM
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No. He's saying to stop gaslighting men into believing that they have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:21 PM
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Ya I get that, but they then argue that porn is like real life sex. It's because, again, it is real life sex to them. Does the same men who are getting sex anyways, so it doesn't even matter. I can don't see why women try to make an argument with men on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:15 PM
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What do you believe etc means
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:12 PM
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Existing as a adult human male. Any other qualifier is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:16 PM
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Lots of men only get pornos there only real sexual experience for a good portion of their life. This does not shock me then that that is their view on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:13 PM
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He is a 37-year-old man talking like this.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 05:59 PM
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This entire post and all of the comments under it is why I'm just disinterested and playing the song and dance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:48 PM
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I never once said that they were, I said that those traits and combination is what men typically desire. You telling men that they don't desire this is crazy. Like please, do you have any sort of evidence showing that men are not in any significant way shape or form actually not interested or disinterested in the things that i, and pretty much every other man here has said?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:46 PM
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This, again, is a conflation between intelligentness and combativeness. Most men are not interested in fighting with someone constantly. I do not understand why so many people try to conflate these two things. In reality, they are incongruent with one another. Especially if that combativeness turns into self-centeredness, and hard-headedness. Knowing how to shut the fuck up and listen to people is one of the most intelligent things a person can do tbh, and person like this it's not going to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:44 PM
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I think that could be a source of where a lot of women get this misunderstanding from. It could be the case that some men end up taking this sort of logical pathway. They would then witness this, and then get the idea that it's not about the actual behaviors that they don't like, but it's about the intelligence itself, as if all of these behavioral patterns are intrinsically interlinked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:38 PM
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This is why in case this is domestic dispute, women knowing this often times pick up weapons, which leads to women being the main inflictors of weapon-based damage like knife wounds or blunt force trauma not caused by hands or feet.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 05:35 PM
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It is essentially just the last one. People outright ignore the damage that women do.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 05:34 PM
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This screams FDS mentality ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:33 PM
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This is the way that intelligence manifests itself? Rather than just as intelligence? Have you honestly found decent, likeable AND intelligent people nonexistent? Very few, and they're all men. And it's not about the intelligence itself, it's the strive to be seen as intelligent that has people have these character traits. It is even worse when you consider that women are encouraged to behave this way via feminism. When you say "strives for intelligence", do you mean she tries hard to make her i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:32 PM
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Am I a victim because someone was being disrespectful to me and I called them out on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:23 PM
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In my twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:22 PM
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You are literally speaking to men telling you the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:22 PM
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Would you recommend any good studies on that? I will try to read more later, but I saw plenty of studies that showed a higher male aggression The thing is that you probably actually read a lot of what I would reference, at least in part. The problem is that unless you read deeply into the literature, it typically appears that men are the aggressors. For instance, typical domestic violence statistics show that men are arrested more, which would make someone believe that men are typically the ones…
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 09:30 AM
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So, intelligence in a woman generally causes selfishness and aggression as well Theoretically speaking, this is not necessarily the case, although this is the way that it typically manifests. In fact, I really can't think of a woman that has and strives for intelligence that isn't also this type of woman. though this isn't the case with men? Men typically don't like being around these kind of men either, unless they're trying to get something from them, and it's for the same reason: these guys a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:23 AM
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I agree with this sentiment. There is a definite conflation of being a jerk, and being intelligent among this type of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:12 AM
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What you are doing is poor debate tactics, disingenuous even, and again, that's not okay. What I will do however it's just not engage with someone who feels the need to just disrespect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:10 AM
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It's even worse when you consider that society is pushing towards a reality where men can't even call out this sort of behavior without being labeled as some kind of monster. It's typically why I don't even bother anymore, and disassociate. This is also why many men are just simply saying no, and don't want much of anything to do with interacting with women. It was interesting watching these Dynamics change in real time, because initially, women thought that they were scoring victories with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:09 AM
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They actually did, by saying y'all. And I'm not describing someone that is submissive, although this kind of person can be a submissive kind of person. I'm describing a kind of woman who doesn't scream to try and make a point, who is considerate and kind with their words, even in hot disagreement. Having these traits doesn't mean that you are submissive and lack confidence in your knowledge, nor does it mean that you not speak up. It has nothing to do with that. This conflation is a good example…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:05 AM
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This type of response is not fine however. Trying to gaslight me, and other men, into being comfortable with stuff that they are not, that's not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:08 AM
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Leggings aside, do you still workout, idk maybe at home or something? No, all I do is work and sleep now. And did you enjoy working out at the gym when people weren’t all over your personal space? It was a place of stress relief. I don't know if I would say it's enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:24 AM
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You only mentioned your own individual experience, and just one experience, making no literal mention of other experiences. And you assumed that was my only perspective. It's not. My point was this: if you wanted to workout, why not wear something that’s not tights? Because I wanted to go to the gym, and I already had them on from going to the doctor. So I just went in. Or complain to the gym of what happened? They didn't see me getting touched as an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:56 AM
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To say this as if my own experience is the only one I'm going off of, and I'm aggregate of several experiences that not only have a scene, but been told to me by others. That assumption is incorrect. You don't have to patronize to me, and in fact, I would rather you not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:35 AM
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This is absolutely disgusting. How is she not arrested?
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 03:21 AM
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I find it very interesting how quite a few supposed MRA groups are quite clearly ran by feminists.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 03:17 AM
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And that's fine, I suppose you are understanding of the reality of what that brings, that not a lot of men are going to actually be comfortable around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:16 AM
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I've never seen evidence showcasing that brow beating actually leads you to become assertive, so I don't get the reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:12 AM
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Because what you're saying is that women should basically abdicate of part of their personality for the sake of "agreeableness". No. I'm saying that they believe that being an asshole is tantamount intelligence, and that to be viewed as being intelligent, you need to be an asshole. That kind of person, and in fact many men are uncomfortable socializing with that kind of person. That's where this view of intimidation comes from, it's not the fact that the men are intimidated, is that they're not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:10 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:40 AM
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The notion that men are more prone to violence is categorically false is not supported by anything. For instance, is more likely at a woman will try to harm a man then the other way around, and the only reason why people think that men are more likely to harm women than women are more likely to harm men's because the police have been trained in ingrained for centuries upon centuries to punishment going even for the acts of women.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 12:55 AM
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They continual support of The selective service act in the United States, I'm backed up to be specifically for men has been a thing that feminism has pushed since its inception.
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 12:53 AM
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The blatant lies and attitudes surrounding missandric treatment of men is too much for me to stomach. The fact that a woman can rake me, and there's no recourse that I can do simply because I'm a man, and this standard of living is created and perpetuated by women, particularly feminists, it's disgusting
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/22 12:52 AM
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I don't believe that many people actually do want that kind of person around them, a tool, especially women. They like abusing that kind of person on the short term, but once they decide that is getting boring, they will abandon that kind of person and move on to the next one. In reality, I think the problem is that often times people feel as though they need to be extremely combative and competitive to push along their intelligence to shine, kind of like an Ego thing. That didn't becomes a case…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:33 AM
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I actually did that once, thinking that people wouldn't mind. Those pants even had an integrated sleeve so you can tuck better. Didn't help, still ended up being touched and harassed. Oh well, I no longer go to the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:15 PM
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Please explain to me how women are only slightly higher in population than men, yet spend the vast majority of consumer money
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:56 PM
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That money is not for him
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:54 PM
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That's what a man's typical view is with this current women's workout attire is. I guess we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:46 PM
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From personal experience, women not only stare, but are more likely to try and touch you in a gym. Why I no longer go to any gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:42 PM
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How would you feel if a man showed up in compression pants with nothing covering himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:36 PM
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