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ComplexAttitude4Lyfe/r/ExRedPill23/04/25 10:13 AM
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Question For MenComplexAttitude4Lyfe/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:21 PM
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If female virginity were truly one of the most valuable traits to the vast majority of men, I would expect many more women to strategically preserve it. Women are tired of trying to pretend their value lies in something so debated. We are people, not prizes. If female virginity is truly one of the most valued traits by most men, why doesn't that preference seem to appear consistently in either women's behavior or in the mate choices of men who supposedly have the most options? Therein lies the p…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 09:53 AM
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That's what they do- downplay it because "all women are liars and want to cheat". Red pill women vloggers tell them this all the time- we're after their money and will use any "woman way" we can to get what we want, all while looking out for the next greatest thing. The redpill has always been a nasty piece of work.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/26 09:29 AM
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You've got the red flags now. Chances are he won't admit his full exposure (incognito mode on YouTube is a blessing/curse) and confronting him isn't working. I know someone who told his wife (on valentine's day) that women are hypergamous and always looking to branch out. It's these little red flags you can't ignore. When i asked her what she did, she admitted to grey rocking him. He often makes these comments and then pulls the "it's not that deep" switch. I think you have your evidence.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/26 12:36 AM
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“I’m the best you’re ever going to get and there are no options but me and worse versions of me” Dread gaming. The gift that keeps on giving. 🙄
/r/ExRedPill03/05/26 08:19 PM
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You never said it. You're in a redpill recovery forum and these are the ideas fed to young men about sex. That's why i bring it up. You're attributing too much power to something that shouldn't have that much power over your life. And you're 17. Get over yourself, you have time. You don't instantly become undateable or "will never have sex". Were you hoping sex advice or the easy "how to get the sex" button would appear? Grow up, then come back and tell me about unhelpful advice.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/26 08:39 PM
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People my age aren’t waiting—they’re experiencing things now. So it just sounds out of touch to me. You say you've lied about experience. Ever think they too are lying/exaggerating? Why does sex validate you? Why is sex the only "measure of a man"? Why does sex raise value in a man but lower it in women? These redpill/blackpill ideas make no sense when you look at them critically. The dopamine hit you get from sex can be nice, but now society raises it to some kind of god-tier experience. It's n…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/26 04:49 PM
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Are women who are sole provider simping too? I think there are plenty of exceptions now that they are no longer exceptions and this tired talking point can be put to rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:27 PM
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Tell me you don't read this sub without telling me you don't read this sub. Whenever a woman posts about these dating woes, men are VERY quick to jump in with "CHOOSE BETTER". I hardly see that as blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:31 PM
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Let's not forget these men who are just bolstering their numbers by using her. They just want the pump and dump for validation. You're right, the system is set up to punish women no matter how we choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:15 AM
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Men don't get the idea that you can be emotionally open and not DUMP your emotioms on your partner. I think most men see it as a fix it issue. They share, they expect it will fix it, the feelings are transferred. It's "fixed" when they dump it and an emotional sponge (the woman) becomes the vessel they pour it all into. Most women talk about their issues to process. Once they talk it out, the feeling is gone. We're not looking for a fix. But I'm sure the men on this sub will absolutely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:54 AM
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And then we hear cries of "but you are just settling, you're after his resources and hypergamy!!!" Mixed signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:31 PM

More blackpill content from the guys upset they can't Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:11 PM
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Who said I am expecting men to pay for me? Who said I don't pay my own way? Which I do, with my paycheck. I earn 100% of my household's income. (BTW, I do actually pay for everything as sole breadwinner. But thanks for assuming.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:48 AM
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Yes! She's a hoe for sleeping around but they'll ghost her if she doesn't. Crazy town.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:21 PM
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And yet women are the transactional ones.....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:09 PM
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Yeah, this is the crazy part. You want a trad woman who sleeps with you right away? You DON'T want a trad woman then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:04 PM
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I'll chime in- absolutely. I've met guys who weren't the hottest and felt nothing. Later i got to know them, and the full person was attractive to me. Conversely, i have met guys who were hot, but i didn't feel instant attraction either. Good thing too, because when they opened their mouths it became apparent why they were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:18 PM
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Source: his nether regions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:50 PM
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They're content with beauty and a good vibe and a hole for the sex. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:18 PM
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MLCers are the biggest offenders on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:15 PM
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Looks like MS Copilot language to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:15 PM
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Men swipe right more, so women are more selective, so men swipe right more, so women are more selective, so men swipe right EVEN MORE... The circular logic presented here is obvious. Cause and effect. Also, less women are on dating apps because of the environment change. More scammers (romance scams) flooded the dating apps and pages. So women backed out. Now that pig butchering (investment scams) are heavily targeting men, this may change as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:14 PM
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Our anecdotes are not reality. They will tell you theirs are "scientific data." It's also amazing how a woman is monkey branching, but a man staying married to his older wife is not when he goes looking for the younger model, and only drops the older model once he's found the new branch to swing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:10 PM
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Congratulations, you've just described hypergamy, which is a constant topic in this sub. No, most women do not subscribe to this model. Would it be fair to say the men are only happy cause they get sex? What if they start comparing breast size? What if one model is more kinky than another? What if one was a virgin and the other had a body count of 20+?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:04 PM
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This is GREAT. Would that I had more upvotes to give.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/26 05:51 PM
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n my case, when I start dating someone and things begin to get more serious, I catch myself thinking that she’s probably been with guys who were more attractive, more confident, more social, richer, or just better than me in different ways. Even when she chooses to be with me, I worry she might just be “settling” for someone stable who treats her well, instead of actually seeing me as a "great catch". Retroactive jealousy will get you heartbreak faster than anything else. Work on your self-estee…
/r/ExRedPill25/03/26 03:30 PM

I can't tell you how true this is. I don't simp and I'm stoic, the men can't figure it out and the orbit is awesome. Def stop simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:12 PM
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It's not all single moms. More women are getting better degrees and going further with education. The statistic on who the breadwinner is in average homes is changing. I'm sole breadwinner for example, in an average home with a dad and kids. May be a small number now, but the landscaoe is changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:30 AM
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Source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:57 AM
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That statistic is changing too. More breadwinner moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:19 AM
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Humans are incapable of unconditional love. We don't have the capacity because we quantify everything. We want to quantify, so we usee sex/gifts/service as metrics. It almost feels like we're using the SMART goal setting template: Specific- what specific actions do we take? Measurable- how often is our partner doing these things? Achievable- LOL, I'd hope so, but life does get in the way. Relevant- are these actions you want your partner to take? Time-Based- Do you need a schedule? Funny thing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:41 PM
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Great justification. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:35 PM
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You're right. So why do so many men pretend their love is unconditional?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:20 PM
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Been the sole breadwinner for 20 years. Told him to get a job not for money, but because he needs the social interaction. Society is what makes him not feel like a man, telling him his worth is in his job and providing. Lots of SAHD have an MLC because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:28 PM
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Not when the midlife crisis hits and they ask "what have i done with my life???"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:10 PM
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They call women transactional, but their logic boils down to "nice coins in, where sex?" Sounds very transactional to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:59 PM
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Men AND women who don't have money have a hard time dating. But women are on "easy mode" according to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:58 PM
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I think that's most of our problem. People want to believe love is feelings, and when these go away (or issues come up) they bail. Both men and women. Relationships are about work too. There's a reason the Greeks used Pragma to discuss long term love. The feelings will come and go. Choosing to stay is true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:05 PM
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YES. So much this. Love feelings fade. The rest is choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:33 PM
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No. I'd be flattered he found me attractive. I'd be creeped out if he didn't take repeated no for an answer and then stalked me. That has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:27 PM
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These are the same men who would complain she's "checked out" if she stops cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the house. Because thatxs just expected, right? He shouldn't have tosay he wants it or help. 🙄 Relationships take work, they just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:27 AM
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Love is not just a feeling. Love takes maintenance, and if you just expect sex to keep the feelings alive- ESPECIALLY when you have fights, hurt feelings, illness, or other problems- That relationship WILL fail. You all complain we don't love you when we don't sex you up, like you said. Same principle. (Sex =/= love.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:24 AM
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Beacause many of us have given up after being told we're liars. But go with your "truth", such a revelation to stick it to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:03 AM
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That's always what many men here say, no matter what we do. We tell the truth, you all tell us we're lying. I've said it, i've seen other women say it. But thanks for proving me right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:38 AM
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How often have we women said this but were told "you're LYiNg." Are you going to listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:47 PM
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Sounds like capitialism at work, she sells feet pics, they want to buy. Thry didn't gift her that money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:02 PM
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Ok then
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:49 PM
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He said men settle. Not because they love but because he couldn't get what he wanted. Read his comment again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:19 PM
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And here we see that MEN settle. Yet they complain how women settle and have no true desire for them. Pot meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:18 PM
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The biology arguement is wrong on so many levels. If someone wants to argue that men following their biology is right, then those same people cannot/should not vilify women for following what they believe is THEIR hard-wired biology. If you're going to "follow the science" follow it all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:16 PM
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The Happy Wife School on YouTube. She has whole series about this. Any woman who says she has a high libido is lying according to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:01 PM
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men just can't seem to understand and emphaiszs with women's dating problems they just can not put themselves in the shoes of a fat woman for example and undestand what it's like but why? Samesies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:51 PM
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I use logic and statistics, not emotion like you. LOL, go ahead and tell me you're not transactional. I need the laugh. I do not care about you, you're of not statistical relevance Then why reply to me? Makes no sense to waste your time. Because most behavior of them shows lack of consistent morals, the whole mindset being built around "what make me feel good now" and "what make other see me in a positive light". This is not a gendered thing. You can say this about both men AND women. Men- "I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:10 PM
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the world has to be like I see it and any evidence of the opposite is emotionally ignored. Well then, pot kettle. I have my reality, you have yours. And never the twain shall meet. You're expected to be consistent, like an human being with morals Lotta assumptions here. How do you know I'm not? How do you assume most women are not? The sex is not the problem, be a saint be a whore JUST be consistent and don't lie to your children, to your husbands nor to yourself. I'm not into casual. Sex needs …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:27 PM
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The day women as a group is willing to sleep with a married man than a virgin this will hapens, until then good luck. Oh, so the red pill trope of "women will marry and stop having sex"? Yeah, the red pill biggest complaint to keep you guys from ever getting married and coming back for their advice. most women in ppd are in their 40s, they're not a representative of current societal trends. They're bored housewives and single mothers dunking on lonely young men with moralism and just world falla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:16 AM
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I think the term is "manwhore" and I've never heard it used positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:45 PM
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how easily a man gets sex shows his value We really need to change this metric. Your value should not be based on whether or not you can bed someone. Most women have had at least one casual sex experience Ladies? I'd say this isn't remotely true based on responses here. Most of us are not willing to risk pregnancy, let alone unsatisfying encounters and the response women get when they admit having had prior sexual partners. Cock carousel. Used up. Slut. Whore. Just to name a few. (nevermind that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:40 PM
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Many things could be minority. But i hear a lot of people with AWALT or AMALT. Are men who don't expect sex right away in the minority? Maybe we need to reset these mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:10 AM
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Sad thing is they'll dismiss any of us that do these things and focus on the Insta/TikTok content creators who demand royal treatment. "See? That's what women really want!" I'm with you on this. I've paid for dates, I've been treated on dates, and i've gone 50/50. But I'm not going to bother arguing with them......
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:30 PM
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So find a woman who doesn't expect all that stuff. We do exist, ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:26 PM
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Same, and I'm a woman. Kindness/politeness seems to be a lost prospect on these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:17 PM
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Heck yeah, plenty of ice cream places with low cost options. A cup/cone, low cost, quick eat if you're not compatible, get another if you want to extend the date. Sweet idea in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:14 PM
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It seems like all the redpill women vloggers believe it. One even states any woman claiming to have a high libido is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:21 PM
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Women would rather die alone than e a sole source of men's validation because they put all their worth on sex. We're also tired of trying to navigate this whole Madonna/Whore complex you all set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:08 AM
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So ir can't be because we've matured? Why frame it as "forcing ourselves" to make better choicrs? Are you ome of those "women are like children throughout their lives" redpillers? And believe or not, some of us ARE pragmatic from the start. Lots of us who've never chased Chad and gone for realistic matches. But hey, this sub has never been realistic about women's real opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:21 AM
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He assumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:06 PM
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Would you want to date women who presented themselves like that? No, they see it as settling. And settling is such a death sentence to them!!! (Unless they are settling for wife material because Stacy wasn't available-) There's a lot of projection from their side, isn't there?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:29 PM
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Because men like variety, right? So what incentive is there for men to police other men? They will be held to the same rules once they have their bangmaid- I mean, wife- so they can't perform the same harem gathering they believe men do now. Hypergamy is the biggest lie red pill can sell to insecure men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:07 PM
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I've been lectured about taking accountability from these same guys. Yep, no reading comprehesion for anything that might challenge their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:53 PM
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They assume, since you're adulting and possibly too tired to go at it like rabbits all night every night. (Who needs a job to pay the bills? Who needs to take care of the kids you've already produced? Who needs to adult? Heaven forbid they might feel ill.) If someone is too tired, it's not an excuse to think about Chad/Stacy. Maybe life has become so busy sex is not the firat priority. The insecure now believe that that means the person settled for them because it's the ONLY reason you don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:50 PM
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Typical appeal to accountability. "Women NEVER take responsibility for always choosing Chad over MEEEEEEEE!" No, we grow up, make better choices, and men want to shame us for either not sleeping with them "in our prime" or having a body count above 0. And we don't tell them we settled. They assume because we can't have sex 2-3 times a day on demand, because life, responsibilities, jobs, kids, whatever, that we are resentful. No, we're adulting, not pining after Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:53 AM
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Cue the "You'RE LyINg!!!" guys who deny any woman ever has problems dating. I also wasn't the dream girl, and I definitely wasn't Stacy or Becky in my youth. I crushed on all types of guys, even the nerdy virgins they think we don't see. And they didn't see me. So much for the "women only see Chad/Tyrone while we see them" myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:46 PM
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The solution? Women should look at the pool of guys that are already interested in them, and choose the most suitable one from there. This is now called "settling" and most guys (judging from the comment section of this sterling example of a sub) would rather die than be settled for. But this is something most women are too stubborn to comprehend. Because the minute we "lower standards" we're settling and as stated above, MEN HATE being settled for. The mere inkling that she may have wanted some…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:41 PM
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Men are always talking about women's "3o4 phase" and discounting anyone who has had sex. Then they turn around and post that if a women doesn't sleep with them by the third date it's not happening. We're vilified either way. So live your life as you want to hen it comes to dating. I don't disagree with you on that. I disagree that we should just hoe it up anyway. If you want to have sex, have sex. But do things for you, not because society expects whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:36 PM
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What kills me about redpill crap is the idea that women CAN'T like sex, no woman has a high libido, we only use it for manipulation. But we're supposed to initiate to make our partners feel desired. But if our natural state is "sex = icky" no matter what we do we are manipulating our partners. This is a double bind. Source= red pill vloggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:16 PM
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You don't have that kind of time but I'll allow it. I have made my personality fit many situations. Work requires one type of person (and I've changed jobs numerous times, so I have a lot of experience becoming the person I need to be to do the work.) Social situations require different people. Work event? One person. Kid's sports? Different person. Adult social time? Third type. Even one on one situations call for different types of people. So unless you're one of those "I'm always the same per…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:55 PM
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Online deficit usually helps. Try getting out once in a while instead or relying on Tinder or Hinge or whatever. You're welcome. (BTW, calorie deficit is about as much fun as the "being online" deficit. You'll see what I mean if you'd actually try it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:31 PM
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It's as easily mutable as weight, which guys love to toss around as a character trait women can easily change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:33 PM
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they provide higher exposure, lower social cost per rejection, and more opportunities to take attempts The online strategy amplifies the rejection and we can see with blackpill the absolute belief that online rejection is the absolute horror of horrors. You know what? It's not about online vs social circle. It's the mindset that any rejection equals total and utter annihiliation of your self as opposed to a simple no that means that person isn't right for you. That's the mindset that needs to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:48 PM
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What confuses me is this idea that you’re not supposed to argue with women. I hear things like “never argue with a woman” or “Going back and forth with a women is_____” I don't think this is a question for women. It's a question for those (men OR women) who see women as children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:41 PM
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Let's frame it this way- The men saying "A woman's body count matters" are also the guys promoting casual encounters and ONS, so men feel "validated" and "desirable". They tell you your worth comes from taking it from women. They say you don't have worth, she does, but only if she hasn't given it to another guy. (Why self-worth is a limited quantity item escapes me, and why does validation ONLY come from sex? There are many ways to be validated in life.) So I would very much question why they sa…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/26 04:23 PM
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Just because you're friends with someone doesn't mean you're romantically compatible. And if men are friends just in case there is chance of sex... not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:47 PM
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Except a lot of this belief is now built off faulty data of dating apps that skew very heavily against successful relationships. They have to make their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:45 PM
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For me, it's the sense that men (particularly red pill in this case) are infantilizing women by comparing us to children who only want to be entertained and will move on to the next shiny toy when we get bored. They caution we're looking for that simp who will keep us enthralled, who has to out perform himself always or we'll monkey branch to someone who fulfills our need for performance. Instead of seeing us as partners looking for someone compatible, someone who we can build lives with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:43 AM

You'd be surprised how many men complain that we don't date them and we're too choosy, then meet someone, get married, and decide they are the betabuxx. For no other reason besides insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:30 PM

The contradictions in the dating world are absolutely insane. No wonder people are opting out. OP, totally hit the points. Couldn't have said it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:12 AM

Get off TikTok, Reddit, and Instagram comments sections. They are trust destroying and will never leave you feeling with a positive outlook on men. Samesies for all these guys talking about "Women just say X" and quoting the latest toxic rhetoric from some random woman on TikTok/Insta/X. There are toxic people with toxic views on both sides. All your negative dating experiences coming from online dating apps? Get off them and seek out real life interactions with dateable men. If you are unsatisf…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 11:01 AM
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sex doesn't mean shit unless its with someone special Yeah, I think a lot of people miss that point and think ANY sex will help them "ascend". But sex for sex sake doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:45 PM
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Incels are piling on this sub. Not surprised, they need recruits to keep going, the crab bucket overfloweth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:43 PM
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Incels are trying to take over PPD. Explains a lot of the comments posted lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:42 PM
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User flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:40 PM
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No. This can be a personal choice and for pity's sake, no one needs to know and people can't tell by looking at someone. (I don't care what they say on TikTok/Insta- looking at someone doesn't translate into virgin detector. And if you don't want people to know, you can decline to answer the question. Unless you're in a serious relationship, they don't need to know.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:39 PM
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Bangmaid breadwinner mommy. Sounds like he's not going to change that NEET lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:07 PM
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What about the NEET demographic deserves attention or diligence? What are we missing about "Not in Education, Employment, or Training"? AFAWK, people are dropping out of adulting because they don't think it's worth it. Just because they don't see a use in being a productive member of society doesn't mean we have to give preferential treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:00 PM
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Most men here believe their own anecdotes and experience as research, but when a women talks about her experience, she's an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:10 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:59 PM
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Whatever makes you happy to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:12 PM
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Whatever makes you happy to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:11 PM
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Oh right, I forgot, people didn't really exist before Gen Z took over and gained sentience. Get over yourself. There's a whole world out there you ignore to keep feeling your feels and justify your bubble thinking. Meanwhile, the rest of us are living.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:20 PM
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Old enough to not care, young enough to understand social media. And wise enough to know the opinions expressed on those platforms does NOT speak for everyone, male or female. But for some reason you younger people like to take what people say at face value when it agrees with your little bubble. I'll repeat- get off the toxic roundabout and actually talk to real people. The kind who make up this world we live in in reality. Not just those spouting ragebait on quick post platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:04 PM
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but have you also been able to see why it might be painful to be labeled as a monster because you were born one way? Born what way? As a man? Look, I have empathy for men. I think it is absolutely disgusting that men are conditioned not to feel or show feelings. I think there are too many women on TikTok/Insta who demonize men for no good reason. but here on this sub, I've also been exposed to some pretty toxic views from men (men toxic on Reddit, women toxic on Insta.) So I guess it depends on …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:55 PM
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Get off of TikTok/Insta/X and actually talk to women. Those women on social media don't speak for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:33 PM
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Thanks, I pay my own rent. Days over when we expect men to pay for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:21 PM
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There are so many upsides to it. For example, you can earn your own money, there's no drama and you have freedom. You dont have to worry about your boyfriend leaving you for whatever reason (sometimes even because he's bored), you don't have to worry about being cheated on or worry about whether you're being used for sex if your boyfriend requires you to be the one always initiating and getting him off. Also, you don't have to engage in empty conversations about nothing of substance. Road goes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:18 PM
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Truth. Take my upvote. I'd give you more if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:03 PM
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Guess again. I'm not upset or mad, just resigned to the fact that the whole of gender wars is creating such a divide that men like you want to place the blame on women when we all helped to create this mess. It sounds like you're upset that you can't just force the man you want to be in a relationship with you. You guys shouldn't have opened up that can of worms (premarital sex) And you all are upset that you can't force the woman you want to hookup. Two way street and all. (I'm good on my relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:43 PM
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Who said I'm mad? You all are the ones screaming about not being able to get sex on demand. And what advantages do women have? Easier to get a date? Except you all don't want to take her on a date since she'll stiff you on sex once you pay for a fancy meal (even though a number of us said a good first date is a coffee. Low cost, low expectation. Not our problem if you lay out money expecting a reward.) So I believe the anger is on your side.....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:28 PM
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And that's why women make men wait. But now we have posts about "If she doesn't put out by date 3 it's OVER!" So we can't win. If we wait, goodbye. If we don't, goodbye when he's satisfied or he finds a better source of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:20 PM
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GLWT. Seems most of the guys here are as deep as a puddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:18 PM
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To work on yourself so others can love you you need someone to love you? Unfortunately, that sounds like a feedback loop that will short circuit men into I need a relationship to get into a relationship, where's my relationship and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:59 PM
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Be sexy, learn to seduce him. Initiate sex with him. Have genuine sexual desire for him (and let him know when you don’t) and be a genuinely enthusiastic lover. Here's my problem- modern redpill (Happy Wife School vlog for example) teach that a woman NEVER has genuine desire for the husband and any women who has a high libido is "faking". It's all a ploy to get his resources. "But that's how men feel validated!" they also scream. So which is it? If she desires you, is she honestly loving you or …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:47 AM

Nope. Probably an enabler tho lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:27 PM

I work with guys. They are the ones who bring in donuts quite often. And no, I do not indulge when they do. So this isn't a gendered thing. It's a "people are obsessed with their pleasure" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:47 PM
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It's not about giving a BJ, it's about if he finishes and rolls over before actually doing anything with her. There have been a lot more BP guys coming here and talking about having sex but their ideal is they get off and thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:58 PM
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So you can finish and go to sleep before she starts? Considering your comment history, that tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:56 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:52 PM
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Older generations, media, other women keep gaslighting men that "looks don't matter" and if you are a gentleman you are guaranteed to succeed in life. I'm not sure if this is gaslighting or misunderstanding. No one is guaranteed success, in life, in jobs, in relationships, anything. We all do our best. But there are no guarantees that just because you do X, you'll get Y result.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:32 AM
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Dude above said men settle since they can't lock down the 9/10. Are you even reading the comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:25 AM
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The whole clear communication problem cuts both ways. Plenty of men hate when women use clear language. If we are as direct as them, they call it nagging. Many Men just clam up with women. And your use of "normies" makes me question where on the pill spectrum you lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:32 PM
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Also, women love... being loved. That makes certain partners attractive even without them looking as sex symbols. I agree. Though it feels like men here only believe in women being attracted to the most physically blessed specimens. And then they develop a confirmation bias that it's over if they are not Chad. When really, our attraction is based on many factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:03 PM
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Do men try to sleep with as many 9/10 women as possible before finally settling down with a lesser attractive woman because she will provide constant sexual access? Because there's some crazy perceptions on both sides and neither is very flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:07 PM

No. Because i am more than my sexuality. I'm rejected sexually, but i succeed in other areas like my job or being a good person (acts of kindness and all still count, just don't use them as nice guy tokens for sex). So i don't let the rejection dictate my self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:35 PM
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I've dealt with chronic rejection, thanks for assuming. I'm not a stacy or becky and shocker, we're almost invisible too unless the guy wants a quickie and doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:44 PM
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You linked one source. The rest is all your conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:14 PM
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Desiring sex is normal. It's pleasure and can express love (though increasingly FWB/ONS/hook-ups prove it's more about getting yourself off.) Putting sex above everything else in life (friendships, platonic relationships, work success, etc) is unhealthy and skews people's views of what's actually important in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:31 AM
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Why does it have so much power? Because of the influence it holds on ALL our lives, or because you've made it the sole focus of your entire being? Hint: it's the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:06 AM
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Doesn't argue anything and generally says "Yes dear" to his every word. Until he decides he doesn't like the consequences. Then he blames her for not stopping him. 🙄🤡🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:48 PM
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Meanwhile for women, it's like... emotionally intelligent, plans every date, pays every bill, does all the housework she doesn’t like, communicates like a therapist, looks like a model, makes six figures, is over six feet, stays loyal, never gets angry, never gets tired, fixes all her emotional damage, AND still treats her like a princess 24/7. Fixed it for ya. Get off of TikTok/Insta, those women aren't real. The bolded pieces are what women look for. BTW, the height thing makes about as much s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:46 PM
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Lack of subtlety- makes me wonder if he's the type that goes into a public area and stares at women. Thinking he's being subtle checking them out while they wonder why the creeper in the corner is openly staring at them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:36 PM
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Just proves there are men AND women both who suck. Hopefully we can avoid all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:57 PM
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The problem seems to be this hyperfocus on SMV. So many people (not men, not women, PEOPLE) focus on the person, not some arbitrary imagined value prospect. But this guy reduces all interactions to that value prospect. I know you know, but responding to him is like responding to a brick wall. You're just gonna waste breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:41 PM
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Anger, self-esteem, the list goes on...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:38 PM
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You gave a practical answer he wasn't looking for and rejects because it doesn't fit his narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:30 PM
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Call anyone who disagrees liars and call anyone who says yes a slut that settles. Either way, denigration all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:16 PM
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Plenty of women don't check out but men still wander. So what does that say about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:15 PM
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Don't you get it? Women should be this virtuous angel who resists all men until this guy comes along, then she can't take it anymore and will absolutely only be the slut for him. /s Because if he didn't have double standards he wouldn't have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:10 PM
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Many men. Just not him. I'm guessing he just realized average women like the rest of us exist and wants to punish us for whatever things those "top tier" women did to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:45 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:42 PM
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Are you trolling? Because I don't believe you are posting in good faith. When I say I could resist, you will likely call me a liar and gaslighter anyway. And yes, I could resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:40 PM
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Women struggle to understand this in my opinion because they are rejected far less (they get to do the rejecting) and even if they are they can recover far quicker. Can we stop with this? Women get rejected all the time, you just don't see it because you are focused on the top 20%. Average women exist too. Women may recover quicker because they don't tie their self-worth to sex. I understand men don't want to have friendships over relationships, but let's be for real- having that connection to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:14 PM
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I think his flair says it all. The Black Pill is trying to take over this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:49 PM
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"I don't approach men because I'm the woman and I'm the prize." Get off TikTok. Those are the women claiming they are a prize. Most of us real life women will admit we're not necessarily prizes, but we will have standards to weed out the guys who obviously only want sex. "MeN LiKe ChASinG WOmEn" Here's the paradox. Some men claim they hate chasing women and want women to approach. Ok. But then they talk about how they conquered (might use other terminology) or otherwise won, like this is a conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:44 PM

Can we juxtapose them with happily single men? I mean, there's seething-with-rage on the internet men, then there'd the rest of the world that included single and ok with that men AND women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:17 AM
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Yes, that's what I try to advise. Unfortunately, the forums online are filled with men telling other men that we women are just not having sex with THEM. That we are with other guys and they are the consolation prize. And that mindset seems to grow more prevalent by the day. They listen to those voices much more.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/26 07:32 PM
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The fact that men demand sex to be considered "in a relationship" makes a huge difference. And if you're not sleeping with them by the third date, they leave. But sure, we're the bad guys for having multiple partners. 🙄
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 08:39 PM

He's not taking care of your needs, just getting you to a point where he can insert and finish. Get him to do some more touching down there. Get some lube if you have to, and have him rub your clit while fingering. Make sure he's using that lube tho, dry is not good. That's an experiment to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:15 PM
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So keep scrolling if you don't want to discuss. It's not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:54 AM
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Yeah, we've had the conversation many times. She's pretty good about not listening to the toxic people, but you know how sometimes thoughts creep in that you don't want? I try to have her back during those times.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/26 07:13 PM
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Wouldn't that be part of the initial screening process? AKA, why we get to know others BEFORE starting a relationship? So, if you asked me out, and I said sure how bout coffee, and you said I don't like coffee, let's hit the bar instead, and I said I don't drink.... Seems like the process works....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:11 PM
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A woman in my office is the sole breadwinner. She and her husband make it work (she's been working over 20 years). She never lost respect for him and enjoys working. However, society tells him he should work and she says now he has fallen into the redpill mindset and it's messing with his outlook (this is third hand perspective, sorry.) As in midlife crisis and all. Sometimes it's not the woman making the demands, it's the man's own belief. (Also, the TikTok/Insta women who insist a man MUST be …
/r/ExRedPill09/01/26 01:53 PM
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The "biololgy" the redpill uses is a grain of truth warped with the lies redpill tells. So it's not actual biology study, it's a warped view of humans to divide people.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/26 11:48 AM
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When you put it like that coffee dates make even more sense. You have a nice environment that will give you things to talk about, things to do, things to experience beyond sitting across the table from someone trying to maintain eye contact. Your town sounds very cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:43 AM
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Glad you got that. Not what i heard. Much of what I hear from her channel is that men are good and women are the problem. I also am suspect of any non-professional advice giver who tells you not to go to a professional therapist.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 10:40 PM
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Hey, if you drink. For those not into alcohol (and some women will be less likely to drink because they don't want to chance it with a stranger) coffee at a nice cafe might be just the thing. I'd rather a nice latte than a beer or cocktail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:36 PM
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This whole "coffee dates suck" thing is ridiculous. Coffee dates are for people who want to get to know each other without the pressure of "someone paid a lot of money for dinner so someone else HAS to put out." (BTW, paying for dinner and expecting sex sounds like a whole lot of transactional expectations....) I'll let you fill in who wants sex more because more women have money now of their own. And everyone's libido is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:33 PM
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There's a reason women want to remain single. Her whole channel is "women bad, men good, stop emasculating." And one of the biggest critiques is this way of thinking is very common to abusive people- her main points are often used in abusive relationships to keep the victims second-guessing themselves. Mix that with AWALT and it is a highly misogynistic channel. I'm not paying to find out she's going to teach me to be a doormat to some redpiller. ETA- my bad, i completely missed your last paragr…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 07:11 PM
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Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:50 AM
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That was him, he's trying to deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:10 PM
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Thanks, I'm well aware that women end up with rapists and abusers. A few women even go for criminals! Yeah, we're aware and also think the ones who stay are crazy. But we also know people hide their crazy. Why would rapists and abusers be any different? Or are you one of those who knows right away? Both men and women fall for it. Funny though how women are EVUL when a few go for bad men but a few men go for CRAZY women and you all say it's the woman who needs to fix herself. Men will go for an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:10 PM
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If it's that easy, why doesn't he do it? It's only a few of her things, by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:15 PM
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And women for their part have been absolved of any attempt to disclose it either because " the past doesn't matter" Try, many don't disclose their past because it WILL be held against them- either immediately or down the line. Hopefully she is honest anyway. But that doesn't guarantee he won't develop retroactive jealousy later. Even decades. Chad is a boogeyman of the blackpill and lives pretty much solely in the minds of those who feel slighted sexually by women. No, thise women are all out "c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:59 PM
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I don't spend my life trying to get my rocks off. I have other priorities, like actually living my life. IOW, life =/= sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:10 PM
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Indeed. Could've spent less on OF, it'd be less expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:09 PM
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I'm in neither. Thanks for asking. I'm not average. But I also don't think people need to obsess about sex so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:07 PM
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First off wifey Are you five? She should be working & earning, not freeloading off you. If she doesn't have a degree, how will she earn the 50% I'm guessing you expect to "earn her keep"? Or should she just get a McDonalds job? I'd also be curious how the trads in this sub respond. She'll meet tons of people & have a shit ton of time to be horny around them everyday, with no responsibilities! Well one of us did college wrong and I'm convinced it's not me. I went and did what i needed to to earn …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:09 PM

And where before you might have had that girl or guy who got a reputation in town, now you have that girl.or guy posting their.hot takes on Insta/Tiktok where impressionable people take it as gospel. Yeah, social media definitely isn't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:26 AM
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Why u ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:00 AM

When I see so many posts here about the cock carousel and free meal tickets, I know we're all headed down the wrong path. Neither gender trusts the other. We all assume everyone is out for themselves (to be fair, a few are). But if people want to make real connections, they have to trust some. 😖
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:59 AM
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You're arguing that people shouldn't wait to have sex, particularly women because "men want to feel desired". I'm saying we all (both genders) need to stop focusing on sex so much. It dehumanizes others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:51 AM
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Thank you for saying this. It's amazing how often we're vilified no matter how we choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:01 AM
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A man doesn't want to feel that the attraction was only for his resources And a woman doesn't want to feel the attraction was only for her body. So what's the solution on both sides?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:00 AM
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A relationship is not sex. Sex does not define human relationships. It shouldn't, because relationships are built on things like trust and respect. But society has centered sex and built this whole economy of sex. People lie to each other all the time to get what they want. Men lie to get sex. Women lie to get relationships People are too obsessed with sex, they make it the center of everything. We need to move back and center people again. Not their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:32 AM

Agreed. Why am bad for not jumping into bed right away? Men are absolutely ready to call me a whore if I do? I have no incentive to sleep with someone right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:19 AM
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Right? Why is it always that we're just gatekeeping sex? Maybe we just don't want to be called sluts/whores/304s by the same guys who call us frigid if we don't. I agree, I want to know someone before getting that close to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:09 AM
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Women: I need a committed relationship for sex. Men: I need sex for a committed relationship. So no one is on the same page. No wonder there is no agreement on these dating apps. Decenter sex/relationships and center people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:05 AM
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Good old boogeyman Chad.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:00 AM
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If they are par for the course no wonder there is no second date. "My therapist says I'm a danger" Yeah, I'd bail too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:56 AM

The cases he cited are not the NORM, and you blackpillers are always going on about normies and all the sex we have, how we play nice with these underlying gender wars in the background (Chad and Stacy playing everyone, men pumping and dumping, women monkey branching...) when most of us are very much not going to the extremes you imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:41 AM

The black pill crowd has indeed started working it's way in. This sub appears to be one of their launchpads Thing is, you speak truth, but Reddit is of course one of the reasons people think this way. Echo chambers are abundant here. And the more black pill that infests this sub, the less reason we have as others leave because they are tired of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:34 AM
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Funny how now you're pulling this when men walk away all the time. And then complain about single mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:02 PM
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And men should learn to stop lying to women to get them into bed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:56 PM
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Hahahahahahaha. Keep talking, women will kniw who to stay away from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:56 PM
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you create men who "sleep around" I don't believe this when I read comments from men about "muh biology!" on this sub. Men will sleep around either way. Who is lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:55 PM
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Not defensive, just pointing out the hypocrisy of saying women lie when men claim the high ground and that all poor lonely men want is women to love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:40 PM
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It's stored with the studies where men admit they only use women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:20 PM
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Hey, i've posted anecdotes often and am told "where's the studies?" So anecdotes aren't useful according to the majority of the sub. And this post is anecdote, sooo...... (I am one of those women who believe men and women can be friends, but those who want to use the other gender for their own purposes (sex, money, whatever) make evryone else doubt it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:10 PM
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Anecdotal evidence. Where's the real evidence? (As many men say here when women post similiar things...)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:00 PM
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Men: we want easy sex so women should put out. Also Men: women who have hookups, situationships, FWB are 304s, whores, and "used up" ans we don't want them. So why shouldn't we tell other women sleeping around is bad? Men cry foul about it ALL THE TIME. And don't give me that "men should be allowed to cause it's so much harder." Men who sleep around, or worse, lie to get sex (promising a relationship, pretending they aren't playing the field) should be slut shamed too. Don't care what gender you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:05 AM
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Seems this sub has been invaded by black pill individuals. Lots of BP hot takes and hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:57 PM

I think both sides are guilty of destroying the other's spaces. Men need their space, and women need theirs. I get mad at any of this inequality comes up. But then both sides get all paranoid about what happens and want to make sure nothing bad is happening (whatever their version of bad is.) So men get upset women want their own gyms and women get upset when men want their own clubs. Let both sides have their spaces, and create those third spaces where we can all come together again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:55 PM
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I'm happy to see men have spaces just as women should have spaces, like our own gyms. Yet the minute we build our own space, men gear up for a battle royale So let's let people build that men only or women only space and not complain about it. That's the only way it'll work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:09 PM
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Exactly. The vast majority of relationships are transactions. Once the girl physically changes for the worse (through pregnancy or health issues) or another perceived better woman comes along, you're cooked..thank God for feminism. Its opened a lot of women's eyes to the real nature of male hypergamy, men's hyperfocus on sex versus actual relationships, etc Yeah, cuts both ways....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:57 PM

This sub has become much more incel focused, or least it feels like it. So many AWALT posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:10 PM
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Men stick around but get a side chick if their sex life isn't satisfactory or "she let herself go". Tell me again about men's commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:08 AM
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1- From a lot of the responses here, it does appear tradwives are in demand. Whether or not that's actually feasible is always up for debate. 2- The redpill advocates for SAHM/SAHW because then she has no agency to go out and meet other men who may compete with him. Is this because women will cheat? No. It's because redpill vilifies women to create the male victim story. So if she's coming home with work stories about male coworkers? May not end well. 3- If she's making her own money, why does s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:45 PM
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Why is the definition of happiness always involve "must have had sex"? So no one who is happy hasn't had sex? Don't know about that. Seems a lot of people who have had sex aren't altogether happy either, especially when you factor in retroactive jealousy and the current Madonna/whore discourse where women are damned for having sex while simultaneously damned for not having sex. Totally discounts all the asexual people who aren't interested in physical relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:10 PM
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It amazes me constantly how many men here seem to believe sex will always be the main focus of lives. But I guess with the advertising of "men's enhancement products" (I have yet to hear about women's similar products) it is a huge focus of men's lives and trying to regain that experience. If we could decenter sex from people's focus, I wonder how society would change.....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:08 PM
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Perhaps fewer men will choose to pursue life paths (try hard during K-12 education, social groups, extracurricular activities, college, work, etc.) that are a compromise of their authentic self (which increases the probability that these men feel a deep need to be compensated for their effort), so they will only invest the amount of effort that’s commensurate with the outcomes in sex and dating they can reasonably expect. So many men in this sub cry foul about "transactional women". How does thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:03 PM
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I wish I could say I'm surprised you're being downvoted, but this sub.... But take my upvote. You are totally right, and the sooner society stops pedestalizing sex the sooner we can all live better lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:16 PM
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And don't forget the single moms who singlehandedly raised a male loneliness epidemic generation. They're vilified but the term "deadbeat dad" is anathema.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:55 AM
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Sex =/= love no matter how you describe it. Sex is not love, especially as the way people have sex now equates to use of someone's body for their own pleasure. So both groups need to acknowledge that sex is a physical act that can result from love, but can also be a selfish act people engage in for their own pleasure. Downvote me all you want, won't change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:09 PM
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Society needs to stop telling people (esp men) that their worth is entirely dependent on getting sex. Decenter sex. Value people as PEOPLE. Once we stop obsessing about a physical act that does not prove worth, we can rebuild what it actually means to be a society.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/25 05:23 PM
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Thing is, a man will be able to start, endure, and finish the act even when he actively dislikes, resents, or has contempt for his partner. Some women are able to, but I'd wager not on the same scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:14 PM
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This is funny, because most red pill women on YouTube always blame the woman for EVERYTHING. And yet the red pill men want you to think it's your fault if she strays. The cognitive dissonance is impressive.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/25 03:06 PM
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Same problem a lot of these red pill women on YouTube have. Look up emilywking or "the Happy Wife School". They talk incessantly about how everything is the women's fault, there's NO problem with men and their comment sections are FULL of men piling on. Edit: corrected the name of a youtuber.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/25 03:04 PM
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His user flair checks out, the "facts" are from his nether regions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:01 PM
1

What amazes me is how many of these guys are so focused on "Life's unfair to men and women have it SOOOOOO easy!" Life is unfair to both sexes. But they don't want to hear that, victim mentality locked in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:16 PM
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I have nothing to debate on this. I agree with the post as written.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:17 PM

Same 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:11 AM

Oh my sweet summer child, you really think online personas are really reflective of people? Wow. I take redditor opinions very loosely. Including yours. Doesn't mean i won't speak up when you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:36 AM

Random reddit women represent all? Way to not make your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:55 PM

This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:52 PM

So it boils down to free sex. But womem who do that are run through and worthless. So tell me why that's supposed to be an appealing option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:41 PM

Right? Why is " i want to sex you up" the most important for them? And then we have to also be only looking for that? The orgasm gap makes it a lot less appealing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:40 PM

Why is sex a must have?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:36 PM

Can we stop with the whole hookup culture stuff? Did it ever occur to men that not all women are in this for hookups/fwb? Some of us just are not interested in sex for sex sake. We are not all wired the same. Some women like men for sex alone. Some women want to get to know someone (a relationship!) Before letting them get that close. Secondly, you all wanted a free sex culture where anyone can choose anyone. Seems some men don't like the choices women make. Third, why should we get so into hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:30 PM
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There's a red pill vlogger out there who has a whole series about how women should NOT expect foreplay or orgasms. She should do it herself. So the red pill mindset itself is not conducive to women's enjoyment in sex, just the man. Therefore, why would we care about casual sex if it is up to us to do it ourselves anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:55 PM
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Double standards galore. Women can find these guys attractive. Sure. There is always that percentage. It's just not the huge segment you think it is. Just like there is a segment of the male population tgat looks at female criminals and says "i can fix her." Then they walk away later complaining about "all women are crazy!" But if you listened to this forum, men NEVER go for the female criminals,do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:13 AM
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Because as women we are told we have to meet a certain beauty standard to be visible to men? And we have to pay enormous amounts for beauty stuff just to look "natural". Yet when some men see natural beauty, they have no idea what it is. And then some men are also shocked, after marriage, how much women pay, stating "you don't need all that to be beautiful!" (Translation- i ain't paying for it.) Only to have him leave her for a younger/thinner/whatever woman because she "let herself go". Does th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:55 PM
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Yep. So not only do they have a wider age range, it tends to trend downward. Wrong on so many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 04:36 PM
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Yes! Not that we don't exist, we just don't exist "to them".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:12 AM
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This begs the question- are women's acceptable age range too narrow, or are men's too wide?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:35 PM
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Right? They'll say women are at fault for their cheating, but women are also responsible for men cheating for reasons. So what I'm hearing is it doesn't matter what we do, those men will never take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:27 PM
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Average men not on the internet datng sites go for average women. Average women not on dating sites go for average men. Both genders on dating apps go for looks and appearance to the detriment of their mental health. Also, there's a HUGE mismatch of men to women. Women have been preyed on for years by romance scammers on dating sites. Now men are being targeted with bitcoin/finance scams. How long before they start leaving? Get off of Tinder/Grindr/whatever. Reality may not be great, but it's be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:23 PM
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I didn't say it's mainstream. I said common. There are numerous WOMEN redpillers telling disenfranchised men just that- "she pushed you to it. Porn is better, but you deserve some release."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:59 AM

Hiding your intentions is also immoral. But I'm guessing as men, they are entitled to it, just like they are entitled to the servant wife? Standards may be doubled......
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:43 PM

Men do not care if your taller,make more, or if your social class is the same. What planet are you living on? Men care, they just put up with it when it suits. Like if she makes more money, he can glide through life until he feels unfulfilled and then it's HER fault. This plays out into creating situations were women only fall for Men they deem worthy. However what they deem worthy is purely from a perceived mental aspect. Typically people take things for granted if its just given to them with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:42 PM
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Men blamed on both sides: If a man cheats, he's a selfish dog. If a woman cheats, it's assumed he did something to provoke her to do it. Not so with redpill thinking today. He cheats, she pushed him to it by withholding. Common trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:20 PM

Too many men nowadays are buying into that redpill mindset of "women are only in it for the money, she'll take everything and monkeybranch when she can" without any indication that is what their wife will do. She can have a job, be self-sufficient, give him no reason to doubt her, and he'll still buy into the line that she is a manipulative gold-digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:16 PM

Because women shouldn't be able to choose based on looks! Only men get that privilege! /s The double standards of dating these days.....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:13 PM
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Any man who may have had a wife earning more who didn't end up miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:18 PM
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I don't think it's as much of an issue as it used to be, with less mainstream pressure for the man to achieve and provide. Women can provide very well for themselves, and I dare say for a family. Now, balance that with the fact that that "chill guy" may think he's getting what he wants- then he hits middle age. Suddenly the mid-life crisis fairy shows up, and he's lamenting the fact he NEVER DID ANYTHING and there's a good chance he'll blame his significant other for never pushing him. Because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:58 PM

Here's a twist to the problem- In both cases, these people seem to have one thing in common. A mindset of "I can fix them." For women, they want to "fix" the "bad boy". For men, they want to "fix" the "crazy woman". Perhaps both sides need to stop fixing and start focusing on healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:03 PM
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We meet their physical needs but the minute women show any emotion other than anger.... "She is soooooooo emotional!" I think it's hilarous when someone tells me men are emotionally more intelligent. Controling your poker face is only part of it boys, need to learn empathy as well.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/25 11:55 PM
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Truth, have to wonder how happy she truly is.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/25 06:42 PM
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It's very sad- there are red pill WOMEN out there telling these guys women provoke and cause their bad behaviors. Like they wouldn't do these things themselves, we must be emasculating them and manipulating them into being these horrible creatures. But women are the ones who never take accountability. Right, I'm not buying that line anymore.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/25 05:01 PM
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I agree on the premise (dating apps are trash) but disagree on the reason. Dating apps have become a haven for scam activity. I'd have to look it up, but easily 40% or more of profiles are scammers looking for an easy target (lonely people looking for love.) Women are targeted by romance scammers. Men are targeted in finance scams. Would this fix that 80/20 problem? Not on my radar, that was a problem apparently created by the dating apps, so yes? But I also don't see women going after the "top …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:02 PM
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He's A man, and not a very good one at that. Glad you escaped. That is a toxic situation and I only hope he doesn't learn to hide it so everyone can see the red flags.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/25 03:57 PM
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They don't want to be settled for but can't believe some women choose not to settle, they just don't get into a relationship. And the red pill of course gets all "but she has to steal resources!" Believe or not, there are some who are perfectly content with their cats and apartments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:54 AM

It is commonly known the average man struggles with online dating this generation. And thats the number one area to meet mates nowadays. This is a misconception. Online dating started as a novel idea for meeting people, but it quickly diverted to just another great idea ruined by humanity. Men flocked to online apps because it was the easy way to meet women, especially if they are socially anxious or shy. Women are overwhelmed with attention. Women leave, creating a huge imbalance. That's the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:33 PM

So how does the fake out of relationships affect these women? The ones who date for a relationship and he lies to her to string her along for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:04 PM

Men not being ready to settle down is stereotypical. Yet now we have all this talk about "hoe phase" and the "cock carousel" where women are considered damaged goods if they explore. Why the double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:57 PM

Then why are women vilified for exploring?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:55 PM
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Even if we assume that spontaneous attraction of men turns women into just a sexual object (which is not so) O rly? Why not? Why has a woman's value been reduced to her "SMV"? Tell me again how men are not transactional? Plenty of them leave their wives the minute health goes south/she gains weight/her looks change/she doesn't fall in line/pick your scenario. People are transactional. It ain't just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:54 PM

So you're going to compare me saying you speaking on a woman's experience to something outlawed because we all know killing someone is bad? False equivalence. You're generalizing all women based on your prior experience. Good luck to your wife, she needs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:47 PM

Women consider 80% of men to be ugly / unattractive. Source? Men find the same %age to be appealing to some degree You mean men are willing to screw 80% of women. That's pretty much all appealing means. That's not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:42 PM

Thne that is not a loving relationship. That's casual sex. So make up your mind which one you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:30 PM

You’re giving a pretty specific example that isn’t all that based in reality anymore. Far better likelihood she’d leave due to boredom. And your experience as a woman? This happens all the time. Men don't want to be seen as the bad guy so they passive aggressively push their wives to divorce. Then whine to all their lonely male pals about the evils of women. Women aren't as hypergamous as you have been lead to believe by all your red pill enthusiast leaders. Some of us actually marry for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:06 PM

As for men having sex unconditionally, you just meet some girl, get to know them for a month and you can screw them unconditionally? FIFY
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:52 PM

And of course that status is always referred to as SMV, thereby dehumanizing women altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:51 PM

Men are wired differently. Our desire is direct, visual, raw, and honestly, kind of unconditional. In other words, it's not love. It's sex. Thanks for clearing that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:46 PM

On dating apps, maybe. Not so much real life. But then you have to go outside to observe. Don't buy into the tiktok/insta crap some women spew. Our preferences are much more varied than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:23 PM

Or is it indicative of the distrust women have of men because of redpill advice, PUA, and the spinning plates method men use in dating? Because we want to be used about as much as men do. If that's not clear, it's "not at all."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:44 PM
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Tell me again what "spinning plates" is and why men "spinning plates" is good while women dating multiple men is frowned upon. I'm not doing that, but I'm interested in this double standard redpill men seem to be ok with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:50 PM
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Then don't blame women, especially when not all women are out there lookinf for casual sex. Talk to the guys who are looking to spoil all these potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:48 AM
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Then when are men going to stop trying to sleep with every woman they date? Because they are just as capable of not sleeping with women. It just appears men will totally cheer on another man sleeping around while saying women should remain virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 10:07 PM
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Truth. What I hate is when you express this online, but then you're accused of lying, gaslighting, or being a pick me. Not all women are shallow, but so many men here have internalized that and will never believe anyone might have different thoughts than what they see online.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/25 04:35 PM
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It's a thing in that people focus solely on online dating and not reality. Yes, height preferences exist. But not as much as these people would have you believe. And I think the whole "settling" thing is pick up artists trying to make men believe committed relationships are a horrible prison. Nevermind that there are a majority of men happily married.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/25 04:33 PM

YES. But it'll still be misconstrued and turned around into hypergamy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:20 PM
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Absolutely. She takes the stance that gets her the most views from disgruntled men. It's honestly disturbing.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/25 11:38 PM

Similar 8, will insist men ignore a woman’s consistent complaints about a problem as “nagging” and then claim that shouldn’t lead to the woman leaving him. To add- men ignore a woman's complaints as Nagging but then get all worked up when she doesn't feel like having sex because he has ignored all her needs. Women aren't saints, but it ain't all on us either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:14 PM
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Can we stop with the SMV bull? Making a commodity of people's attractiveness and/or what they bring to the "market" is not a healthy mindset. Also, very few men will admit this, but sub7 women do not exist to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:19 PM
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Is a man's high body count indicative of a risky prospect? Because i only see it aimed at women. Seems a pretty blatant double standard.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/25 11:37 PM

Truth. They complain women won't sleep with them. They complain women are whores that sleep with too many men. These may be different groups of men, but now women are getting very mixed signals. What exactly do men want us to be- Madonna or whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:39 AM
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Then why are so many on this sub saying "Women don't bring anything but a vagina and starfish sex to a relationship"? Seems they are looking for something. So maybe their transaction is love? Also, what about relationships where the women is a major supplier of the resources, IE either the primary or the solebreadwinner? Is she still only after resources? Because we are a growing group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:43 PM
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Women are in business while men are looking for love Literally the title of this post. Did you mean something else? Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:48 PM
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Soooooooo... remind me again why women are the only transactional people in this equation? Cause it sure sounds like men expect something transactional too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:15 PM
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Hey, apparently I'm a masochist posting in this anti-women forum. I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:37 PM
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Hilarious. I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:56 PM
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Then tell the rest of the men playing games about commitmenting to knock it off. Maybe they should stop pretending to commit for free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:26 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:20 PM
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Victim blaming at it's finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:37 PM
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Then can you agree women are not a monolith either? Because otherwise the argument is moot. The men in this sub can't defend men online while lumping all women together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:31 PM
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Sex isn't love either. Sex can sometimes result from love, but in this world it often is just about getting off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:29 PM
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It is. You're equating all women's participation in relationships as transactional while men are wholesome hopeless romantics who stand no chance against leeches. If you're going to say all women are about resources then all men are about sex holds true too. Do you see the problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:29 PM
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And women aren't either. Do you get my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:25 PM
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Wow, I never realized my outlook on dating was so skewed! Imagine not knowing you're incapcable of love, is crazy! Being sole breadwinner really messes with a woman's head! (The dating scene is skewed because women AREN'T dependent on the man for everything anymore so women don't "owe" men sex, and I have to wonder if THAT isn't the actual problem for men.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:24 PM
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Have you read the comments here on PPD? It's on plenty of other subs too. Men want a relationship (sex actually, but I'll be generous) and say women should be forced to settle with someone. Whether through gov intervention or some restrictions or whatever. Then someone else pops in with "She settled for me! Women are manipulative and only after resources! That's why they settle!" So we can't win no matter what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:56 PM
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This. So much this. We are told to lower our standards/expectations, then attacked because we are settling. The double standards are amazing. That Venn diagram is a literal circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:09 PM
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🥇🏆 Sorry I don't have better awards, but I only have one like to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:06 PM
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These men: "She should be forced to settle with me cause I deserve it!" Also these men: "She settled for me. That's not fair!" The double standards are amazing. The mental gymnastics are impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:03 PM
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Neither are women, but plenty of men here seem to think so.....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:59 PM
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This guy is all over PPD with his toxic views. He's a definite piece of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:06 PM
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All the planning, All the spending, and All the emotional labor to maybe “earn” casual sex (and you better be grateful that you got the OPPORTUNITY to even be in her presence at that) Aren't you all the ones complaining "She's run through/She rode the cock carousel/She's hit the wall and settled"? Then why complain when we raise the bar on casual sex so we don't end up on this list of "used up untouchable" women? You have such high expectations of us, don't complain when we try to protect oursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:04 PM
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If all women want is free food, it stands to follow all men want is free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:09 PM
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I know, they have such a desire to be sexed up. But if we don't enjoy being the focus of sex desire, could it be because we're tired of men accusing us of being "ran through" or "riding the cock carousel"? Maybe we're tired of men wanting sex freely then accusing us of being hoes when we're 30. Make up your minds already. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:04 PM
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Look elsewhere means find another peer group around you (not the Tinder crowd.) Not going to another country where women are still oppressed. Join a cooking club. Join a music group. Find a hobby you enjoy and meet up with people doing that. Just don't go and at the first meeting look for a hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:01 PM
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According to most of the men here it is. Women care about relationships, and if all women you encounter are just looking to bleed men dry, look elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:17 AM
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Then find new women to hang out with. I can assure you, again, this is not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:16 AM
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Oh yes, cause we love being objectified. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:11 AM
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Then you need to find a new group of women. Not all women are after a simp or orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:11 AM
-1

It would help if men were receptive to women beyond a booty call.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:34 PM

Your opinion. Have you personally done a study of women and found ALL of them are not capable of being attracted to men for long? Doubtful. There are plenty of women here who are very faithful to partners who absolutely have no intention of continuing to work on the relationship. These men just want a guarantee of continued sex, the only reason they get married. So continue to rail at this imaginary species you despise. Reality will wait for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:07 PM

So we shouldn't take incels at their word that the women they ALL approach are shallow and hate them? Duly noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:46 PM

Actually she did not deadbedroom him. After the honeymoon, he didn't want to be touched, hugged, kissed, whatever unless it lead to sex. So no, it doesn't all start with women being less affectionate. Some of it starts because the man was after a steady supply of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 02:45 PM
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How about a man who is affectionate all through dating, but once married, is only affectionate when he wants sex? Got a friend woth that problem, she says it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:22 AM
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Found a happy wife school subscriber.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:13 AM
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I don't care if you're attractive or sexually attractive. If your attitude sucks I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:06 AM
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We are talking to a person who has made up his mind to blame women. Not much we can do at this point.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/25 11:24 AM
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So show some stats and studies that prove it. Everyone here is tired of that 80/20 study men keepmposting, because Tinder is not a good showing of who wants what. You all keep telling us we're lying when we give anecdotal evidence of friends or family that disprove your "theories".
/r/ExRedPill21/05/25 11:23 AM
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Yes!
/r/ExRedPill20/05/25 01:46 PM
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If men didn't make it all about sex, maybe life would be that much better. But easier to blame women, right?
/r/ExRedPill20/05/25 01:45 PM
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When people stop makubg everything about sex, we'll be a happier society able to see people for who they are, not some object to help achieve orgasm. The value of people is not in sex.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/25 01:18 PM
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I threw some of her transcripts (about 17) into Gemini and asked it what it thought of her advice. Gemini said men might get some help but it was not self-reflecting or very healthy (ie they are not at fault), but women were given very unhealthy advice, made into villians. Maybe my bias, but it confirmed what i heard from the channel.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/25 10:01 AM
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There's always a few. No, many women don't enjoy being catcalled. Can't speak for all horny hihh schoolers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 08:40 AM
0

But where did you hear it from? Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:47 AM
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If he said "not fat" his man-preferences would be on display and we can't have that. Women are the shallow ones, remember? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:38 AM
1

Tell me you want someone with an athletic build without saying you want someone with an athletic build.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:25 AM
0

Who says?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:08 AM
-1

nothing and nobody loves other human beings unconditionally, not even their own mother. FTFY. Humans all suck at unconditional love, just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:44 PM
1

Except in this sub. I swear it's more red everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:35 PM
1

Statistical facts show women are more likely to cause domestic assat than men its just that male victims are u der reported Want to try that again? Women do not cause domestic assault. No one causes domestic assault. But the victim is blamed by their abuser who says "look what you made me do." No one said men are not abused. I'm saying both abuse and are abused, there is no hall pass. We need to stop it on both sides, not maximize one at the expense of the other. And as to "your personal experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:16 PM
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I don't know where or how you grew up, but I was taught to treat everyone with dignity and respect, regardless of gender. As I told another commenter, men post plenty of public memes slagging women for all kinds if slight, don't know why men believe they are so much higher ethically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:35 PM
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Happy to amuse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:18 AM
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I agree, but the red pill tells them all therapists and psychologists are on women's side, that their voice won't be heard and they'll be blamed for everything. Double that for marriage counseling. Gotta keep the sheep in line.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/25 07:51 PM
4

Sounds more like the blackpill league.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/25 07:48 PM
2

I regret I have but one upvote to give. If more people adopted this mindset, we'd have a much happier society. No one else can make you happy long-term, and even those in relationships aren't necessarily happy all the time. Humans need to focus on their best lives, and make that the priority. All I can give is an internet cookie sir. 🍪
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:21 PM
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I think he's the disturbed one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:55 PM
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But we're obviously lying/don't know ourselves very well. They must know us much better than ourselves since our reproductive organs preclude us having brains. Don't you know we're a monolith?!?! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:54 PM
1

Like please get a grip on reality and stop being a victim constantly. Do you say this to all the people online constantly calling me a liar because I don't agree with my gender on many things? Because they claim the victim card then tell me how I victimized them even though I have nothing to do with someone who made fun of them 10 years ago. Have you looked into the list of medications that cause weight gain? There are quite a few on the list that are not optional. <image> Tell me how it's a med…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:44 PM
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So losing weight for everyone is EASY. Thanks for that, I know lots of people for whom it is a medical condition who would love to know they just aren't doing things right. There's too much emphasis on size/height/weight or other physical characteristics when at the end of the day, We. Are. All. Human. If we can just go back to that, maybe this stupid "gender war" would be less prominent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:20 AM
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Im not a Mary Sue with the whole strange eye color BS. I'm built like Terry Bradshaw and I deadlift 230. Doesn't add to my SMV, but the gymbros dig it. (Platonically)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:05 PM
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You're not going to believe anything I say, so I can say what I want. Not like it matters, you think I'm lying anyway. Because you have conditioned yourself that women are the enemy and the problem. Have a nice day. (Am I lying?)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:39 PM
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Again, I don't care about you or your anecdotal experience (which is a lie, anyway). It's a fact that women do this, and men do not. Nor I yours. But you and others like you bring up your "experience with women" to prove me wrong. Either get some new material or accept your anecdotal evidence will be met with anecdotal evidence. And since you're never going to believe me who cares? Not you. Many women are incontinent after pregnancy, many have to have their perineum cut. Lol. But yeah, their vag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:37 PM
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And that last shows you have no idea. I've been told I'm imposing by some men. But as you don't know me and never will, continue on with your mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:30 PM
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Funny, because so many of these posts are men complaining women are attacking them or diminishing them for whatever reason. (Most recent example, the whole "dick size matters" explosion of posts, where many of us women were called liars.) So compare me to a hit dog all you want, the loudest group on here isn't necessarily women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:20 AM
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Women all over the earth do nasty things, but women all over the earth do great things. Men all over the world do nasty thing. And men all over the world do good things. Both are true. All I'm asking is a stop to the blanket statements that lead people to mass shooting, attacking others in the street, and causes so many issues because SOMEONE decided "All of this gender is bad." Period. Maybe men should start feeling attacked when you say you feel threatened around them They do. But then, many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:17 AM
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I don't care about you. Then why reply at all? Men do not discuss their girlfriends'/wives' vaginas with their friends, like women discuss their partners' dicks with theirs Never discussed dick size with friends because it's not a thing I feel needs discussion. Dick size is between the people involved with the dick in question, not outside forces. With age, not use. With both. Learn some basic anatomy, then we can discuss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:05 AM

that men desire to sleep with sexually available and open women but then are repulsed by the thought of marrying her. Likewise he wants a chaste woman to marry but will not find her sexually attractive. So they do the same exact thing to us that they accuse us of doing? (Alpha fks, betabuxx) Why am I not shocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:27 AM
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Lol, I read "women deserve less nonsense" first and thought, I can get behind that. Then I realized you were referencing the book title. Oh well.
/r/ExRedPill30/04/25 11:38 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:24 PM
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I'm nearly there, I don't know how many "you're after Chad and married for beta buxx" I can take before I leave them all to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:23 PM
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Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:54 PM
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Can we clarify that many of us aren't saying NO women do that, but when we say we personally don't, the reply is "you're a woman so you're lying." Women all over the earth do nasty things, but women all over the earth do great things. I personally take issue with the "you all do this and are denying it" mentality I see in this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:44 PM
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With age, not use. Sure, a 70 year old vag will look a lot different than a 20 year old, but so do penises. And the red pill/blackpill forums you frequent seem to have a bias toward what women think, I've seen plenty that talk about women's parts extensively with those memes. Either own it, or don't make generalizations and assumptions about me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:19 PM
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Yet another "all women like these immutable characteristics" posts that lead to us being accused of lying about ourselves. If you know me so well, why ask? Still not worth answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:33 PM
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Really? I've seen plenty of "railed women look like" comparison memes. Always talking about how a woman who has had sex is now stretched out and won't make a good partner. The comparisons range from doughnuts to garbage cans. (Hilariously untrue, muscles can stretch and return to normal size quite easily. And very easily debunked since women have multiple kids. I'd think the husband would have had issues with that gaping maw if the vagina hadn't gone back to regular size.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:13 PM
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Since we won't be believed anyway, why bother answering?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:45 PM
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Isn't it relevant that women who don't use the insult have heard it from men? Seems like a pretty relevant data point, seeing as how the focus is always on "Women want bigger and use insults about dick size."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:35 PM
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Not like they believe us anyway. "You're just performing for the other women of Reddit, you know it matters." -them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:33 PM
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I'm amazed how many men forget they talk about a woman's size all the time. Fat shaming is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:32 PM
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As an adult, never insulted anyone based on an immutable characteristic. It is not a fair attack and is not something that should be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:30 PM

What posts about outlawing sex? I need examples. Not wanting sex... well, the DeadBedrooms sub has plenty of both genders complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:03 PM
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This is it. I know plenty of stories like that.... but tell that to a redpill/blackpill person and they'll deny your reality five ways from Sunday. Best of all I know a guy well over 6' who doesn't seem to have any luck- but they will tell me that's an anomaly because 6Feet!
/r/ExRedPill28/04/25 04:56 PM

I think this definitely falls into the "Not All" category. (Though there are redpill people out there that will say "men always want sex/women never have high libidos" which is wrong altogether- just look at the posts in this sub for proof.) In the end, we're all human with differing needs. Some men and women are fine being celibate. I'd say it's extremely possible, especially when you add in asexual, demisexual, and the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:29 PM

I am not a fan- she blames women for all the problems in marriage, including if the husband is physically violent. (She pushed his buttons.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:03 PM

Never watched the Happy Wife School then? Plenty of people say men can have women friends, but women only have men friends because HYPERGAMY. It does go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:33 PM
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That's hilarious. You don't know my political stance any more than I know yours. And who sad conservatives or liberals are more individual? People ARE responsible for their own lives. You can't influence mine, I can't influence yours any more than YOU let me. And you are responsible for your own happiness. If you want to be happy, you need to make that happen yourself. People will ALWAYS let you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:12 AM
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You've never heard of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee? You've never heard the term Landwhale to refer to any plus size woman? "Boys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses." Women who rock a pixie haircut MUST be the lesbian husband. The fact that men are just so desperate for sex that they will neg a woman and then pump and dump is sad. Not a good look for you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:36 PM
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Is take a shower BS dating advice because you take showers daily or because you tried once and it didn't work? I've seen plenty of women being negged online because redpill strategy told the men making them feel bad would make them want to prove themselves (aka "Chad does it!") And how many women are body shamed because they are plus size or told their hair could be better? Get a boob job/your boobs are too small. "You'd be a ten if it wasn't for (insert man's preference here.)"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:12 PM
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Your choice to adhere to them. Personally I've always gone my own way anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:00 PM
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I'm a woman, and I was taught to never rely on others, to be my best self and strive for better. Not all women and all that. So I got myself to the point where I never have to rely on a man to be my provider. But I still can't win, now I'm too independent. Tell me again how women are on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:42 PM
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I didn't say lazy. I said people have stuff they can work on. But most people aren't willing and say "it must be other people, im fine." If you're truly fine with yourself, why do you need the validation of others? Telling me you got the "short end of the stick" is telling me "other people are the problem." You said you lost weight (sincere congrats btw, I know how hard that is from personal experience) so now is it your height? Your cheekbones? Your jawline? Other people are shallow so they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:36 PM
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Except a lot of those gripes boil down to "I'm the victim cause they made me this way." Instead of asking "what am I doing to improve myself/be happy with myself?" You're not happy with yourself, there's a good chance others won't be happy with you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:21 PM
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Better to blame an imaginary perfect man than admit they need to work on themselves.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/25 10:49 AM
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One time, I was really young, but I had an attractive woman come up to me at a party and tell me that im "disgusting looking" and didnt belong there First, I'm sorry this happened. That is unacceptable from anyone, and she does not get a pass for being attractive. Don't care what "society" says. I've been on the receiving end of a school of bullies, it's not fun. To the question, I've been alone and it does not bother me. Thing is, I wouldn't mind being left alone by everyone. Men and women. Equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:24 AM
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I don't want to be a pick me, and I'm not trying to be different from other women JUST to get a man. I just try to be myself, which apparently is much more attractive to men than women pretending. I just feel weird when it's pointed out ALL THE TIME. I want to be me. A human. Not lumped in with All Women and not separate.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 02:56 PM
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This is a phrase that makes me cringe. I've been told my whole life (by boys and men) "You're not like other girls." I kinda shrug it off, to which they reply "Oh, no, that's a good thing!" And yet here we are. I really hope I don't come across as just like this one. She's absolutely insufferable.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 12:40 PM
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My first question would be- 'What is your measure of success?" Most Red Pill doctrine I've seen aren't about building a relationship. Some will say they are, but many Red Pill channels are about male dominance and "game". So if you used Red Pill to attract attention with the intention of getting sex, sure, I bet it worked. If it is only to see if women will pay attention, I'm sure you caught their attention. What kind of attention and what would it lead to? Blue Pill- same thing. Neither is a he…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/25 12:36 PM

Maybe retroactive jealousy, because there's a physical reminder in the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:27 AM

Can we stop with the sob story about "women giving her best to some Chad and now I'm getting leftovers!"? I'd feel more sorry for some (only some) of you if these forums (this and others) weren't also full of men trying to get as much sex as possible without commitment. It's become cliche- men fake love for sex, women have sex to get love. And then he leaves. You know what, it takes two. He's responsible too. Don't get all high and mighty about "her best years" when men are just as responsible. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:22 AM
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The vlogger was responding to a woman who said "Sex literally hurts without foreplay." She responded "that's emotional pain from emasculating your husband." Just amazingly dense.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/25 10:33 PM
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What if he doesn't have a retirement account because he stayed home raising the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:21 PM
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These days women are making the money and in some cases the breadwinner in the family. Does that change this women-bashing "she's in it for his money" narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:58 PM
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It's easier to accuse us of ignoring nice men. I've never been attracted to these Chad's they talk about.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/25 02:50 PM
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I'd rather watch a good takedown fight or funny fail than two random people having sex anyday. Seriously, not everyone gets off watching others have sex. I've never been interested in porn. Average size or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:30 PM
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If people want to make their amateur vids and post them, have fun. I doubt the majority of people want to post their porn vids. Let alone film one. Lastly, most vids that sell (and these creators are looking to make money) are not realistic to begin with. Fantasy sells, not Charlie nailing Carol awkwardly in a messy bedroom. I don't watch porn, do the sets look realistic like most bedrooms or are they boudoir settings?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:53 PM
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And now we've talked it to death, and it would appear, from the multiple comments on this and the other 100 posts about sizeist women, that this topic definitely does not fit the AWALT frame. I will amend my comment. But my point stands- read the other women's comments, and see not everyone cares for bigger dicks and those who do care will out themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:06 PM
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So would you agree that men tend to lump all women together when it's negative and separate when a woman does something they like as the outlier, can't speak for all women? And yes, it can go the other way- women will lump all men for the negative but call positive the outlier and they can't speak for all men. Both genders- we need to stop the mindset of AWALT and AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:30 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'd agree, except EVERY OTHER TIME you want to lump us all together, we are a monolith. But when we make a good point, the hivemind is non-existent. Figure it out, either we are or we aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:34 PM
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I would rather a first coffee date. Don't know those women, but it is low pressure, can be over very quickly if not working out, and doesn't cost much. Of course, maybe they have the same expectation of ROI as the man who says "I paid for dinner, now get naked."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:07 AM
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Ok, so don't project that insecurity on women. Read the other women's comments on this and other posts. A good number of us DON'T care. Edit-Since I can't speak for all women, I'll go with the fact that there are many here, who men choose to ignore, who don't care about size and/or don't prefer bigger dicks. Don't ignore us, and if we can't speak for everyone, don't lump us all together as "all women want big dicks." You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:53 PM
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Yeah, we're all liars AND best of all don't even know our own bodies or preferences. -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:29 PM
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It isn't realistic. Average is average for a reason. You are absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:28 PM
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Right? Sudden obsession with size questions. This is getting ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:27 PM
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The desired outcome will dictate whether people are happy with their choices. Someone wants a casual hookup, dating apps will serve that purpose. Items displayed may or may not reflect reality. Someone wants an LTR, they're better off finding someone offline, so they can get to know the whole person. Because a snapshot of someone that's been filtered, a profile that may be seriously divorced from reality, is not a good measure of whether that person is good LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:38 PM
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Welcome to PPD, where all opinions are called lies and the goalposts move all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:34 PM
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Then it's all subjective debate, and no one can win. Everyone's experience is different. If we're debating on the basis of experience, your reality and bias will be completely different from the experience and bias of a breadwinner mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:09 AM
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Sex partner or LTR? Because it all seems to revolve around sex/hookups/ONS instead of LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:06 AM
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And that's where the internet has caused so much confusion. We should be looking at the whole person, but dating apps and places like Instagram/TikTok only give us the person's physical appearance. You know nothing about the actual person. I've never been on a dating app and never will. Can't take the shallow stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:05 AM
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Or they concoct a personality mask for everyday life and their personality online is their actual thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:02 AM
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That's exactly what I said. People can be whomever they want online. And what about Bundy? I don't count criminals who people fetishize.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:26 AM
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Here's the real question- Why ask if you men won't believe us anyway? We answer, you tell us we're lying or cope. We tell you experience, you ask for studies. We provide studies, you want experiential anecdotes. So it's a rigged game. Let's not even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:10 AM
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Amazing the ratio of obsessed size kings there are to obsessed size queens. Men think about dicks much more than women. Must be closeted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:57 AM
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You do realize online reality =/= real life? Just like people on social media, you can shape your reality however you want online. Problem for many, they can't mask their horrible personality IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:51 AM
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YES!!! Dating apps only encourage the most superficial of takes. Tinder even seemed to gamify it- swiping left and right in rapid succession. There is no "get to know the person", it's all "are they photogenic?" Dating apps may widen the pool, but I'd rather have a narrow pool with 5 foot depth than a 1 inch puddle 5 miles across.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:33 AM
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From interacting with women IRL. Please don't commit ad hominen on a debate sub. My experience IRL is completely opposite your experience. Which experience wins?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:04 AM
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Probably because we know the manosphere would automatically respond with awe toward that person because they are the ones that care about size, and we don't want to give them more ammunition. Let me repeat- it's the MANOSPHERE that has the hangup. Secondly, body shaming for any immutable reason is reprehensible. I don't know what women you are talking to, but on this sub, plenty of women have given reasons they DON'T want someone oversized. No, they are not lying. Too big can hurt. Why would we …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:22 PM
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If that's what you believe, it's not a debate. OP has already established he wants to believe "research" ovre actual women. You want to believe women lie, go ahead. You are in for a miserable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:31 PM
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Now I'm reminded of Stepford Wives, where they all turn out to be androids.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/25 12:45 PM
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Now I'm reminded of Stepford Wives, where they all turn out to be androids.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/25 12:44 PM
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Because it amuses me. Carry on with your "debate".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:42 PM
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No, you're not. We've replied and you just keep saying "But RESEARCH and MY experience!" Completely ignoring we are women replying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:40 PM
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Then fetish/kink it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:39 PM
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Or, maybe, OP could listen to all the research that says women orgasm more from clitoral stimulation than penetrative sex. But he seems pretty hell-bent on making this one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:00 AM
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"Trust the research I'm providing you because I don't believe you instead of your actual experience as a woman." This is what I hear you saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:59 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:56 AM
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THANK YOU. It really feels like OP is not going to listen to a woman on this, so I for one appreciate you outlining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:55 AM
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OP is always rebutting that we are lying or just don't know ourselves. If you go through all the previous posts, OP is basically saying women are lying and any answer besides "I say this to keep up appearances" is met with "You don't know yourself" or "You're a very small minority". At this point, snark is all we have left when OP won't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:27 AM
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there was an actual study that showed in a setting where women are evaluating men’s attractiveness, they looked at the groin area first. So now women have X-ray vision? Because most often when I first lay eyes on a man, my eyes aren't hitting his crotch to take a peek. Usually they are clothed in attire that does not afford me a chance to judge just how big his package is. I mean, I guess if you're a dancer and they forgot their belt under spandex? Or you hang out a lot at beaches where speedos …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:24 AM
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Point proven. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:52 AM
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We tell the truth, you call us liars to cope. Can't debate that because you refuse to listen. Stalemate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:58 AM
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Real life , research,porn all point to the notion that size is important Can't speak to your experiences with women, but porn is not a realistic data point to decide what people actually want in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:22 AM
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1- This is PPD, the discussion is neither healthy nor realistic. 2- This is the internet, the most unlikely place to find truth or reality. Bonus- we tell you ALL THE TIME size doesn't matter, and we're told we are liars or hypocritical. So even if we answer, someone will tell us we are lying to ourselves and the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:20 AM
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New business idea- Tinder for penises. Have to send pics with measurements in all stages of arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:10 AM
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If not up for debate, why even post it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:09 AM
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If your research into penis size and preference includes the almighty porn, then no, you're not looking at real research or women's preferences. Also, I doubt many women are getting on these dating sites looking for pictures of the package so they can swipe right on Mr Biggie. As far as I know, women aren't arriving to dates with a tape measure in their clutch to make sure he's more than 6 inches. Porn is a fantasy, and not a very good one for most people. Add this to the fact that most women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:07 AM
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How about equality on immutable characteristics? Gender? Race? Those things are not changable and should not dictate whether someone gets a job or not. What you can change is what you bring to the table. What you provide your workplace that someone else wouldn't. You and only you can improve your skillset, which is the biggest bargaining chip you have. And if you want to tear the system of incentivization down, GLWT. It's been around for a LOT longer than any of us and had encouraged many to imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:34 PM
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If someone has taken the time, effort, and dedication to learn a job, whether or not they like it, they will get paid more in many areas of the job market. That is usually how capitalism works. That seems to incentivise a society where instead of people doing what they like to do, they focus on doing what generates them more money. Which seems bad for society. If you can find something you love that pays well, you have now achieved what the majority won't. I actually achieved this for a time. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:05 PM
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🤦 This again. Well, I can tell you from experience that men HATE it when you make more than them. I've experienced this both in my relationship and with coworkers I'm pretty well paid. I make more than a number of the men I work with. It's come up, no one's stormed out. But it's not the most comfortable thing. I am highly qualified and skilled in my work though. But worse is the fact that my spouse has never been pleased with the idea that I'm the breadwinner. I don't use it as leverage in argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:28 PM
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There's a lot of cope on these forums, and it's usually the ones using skewed data to stay in their victim mindset. Whatever floats your boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:46 PM
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Neither do the men attacking women for imagined slights over a skewed study that doesn't even represent women. All I'm asking for is data using real people instead of stats from a dating app skewed to visuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:29 PM
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Because not all women are the same mindset. Are you like every other man on here posting about how women should be forced into an arranged marriage so there are no incels? The women who use these dating apps are likely less inclined to look beyond the face because that is all they have to work with. Meanwhile, I see the man, but I also TALK to him, INTERACT with him, to GET TO KNOW him before I make a decision about whether or not he's worth my time. There's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:40 PM
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Because I live in the real world, work with real men who are NOT male model look-wise, and they are happily married. Not to mention people I don't work with, who I know through social channels, who are not male models and are happily married. Plus all the couples I see outside of these two things, like walking through stores or out somewhere- can't speak to their happiness, but they seem content. So no, I don't think dating apps where a swipe right/left mindset is going to be a good representati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:07 PM
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Think for a minute about your sample- self-selected men and women going onto a dating app where you swipe based on LOOKS ALONE. The only thing keeping men from being so picky about swiping left was the fact they didn't care, they just wanted to get laid. Hence why Grindr was created. So no, I don't find a study based on Tinder to be all that insightful about dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 10:02 AM
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Possibly because if we are sexual, we are sluts. There's a lot of shaming content online. Things like being told "She rode the cock carousel" or "she's been run through more often than the Chunnel" don't really encourage us to be sexual beings- then men get confused why we aren't. Look through Reddit at the number of posts about high body count. Lots of men profess to have huge problems with any previous partners- even if she's only had one (and they've had much more). Blackpill/incel thought is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:01 PM
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Your data is outdated and completely skewed. Dating apps do not represent women's values. Got anything from this decade? We've had five years to gather data. And I'm not the one attacking 50% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:45 AM
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Some study from eons ago where dating apps told them women swiped on 20% of men. Outdated before it came out. Also based on an app where you base your choice on looks. Not a good source of information.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:47 PM
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Totally AI. I mean, it's TikTok. Chinese propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:43 PM
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Eighty-plus percent of women tend to converge on roughly 20% of men. Hey, women are hypergamous, it is what it is. I still need to see a source on this besides a blackpill take or "the dating apps say so" because the dating app stuff is ancient. Dating apps are not a good source of stats because they are crawling with romance scammers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:42 PM
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No joke. I'm so far past the wall these guys would not consider me human. Glad I live in reality as opposed to their little corner of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:55 PM
2

when women claim that "all men just want hookups", they're all going for the same top percentage of men. Would it be likely that the "average man" is longing to be like that "top percentage of men" you all like to talk about? It seems more and more posts here lament not being these "top percentage" and idolize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:53 PM
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Red Pill teaches that looks, status, and money are all that counts. Black Pill teaches all that AND the toxic idea that all women are evil. There's no emotion, no actual feelings, except the excitement of conquest. Yet the underpinnings are that your conquest is temporary and you could lose it all in a second. The idea that all women are hypergamous is crap. Probably the statistics are in the same rate as men- Women who are golddiggers and money chasers are about the same rate as men who are aft…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/25 03:24 PM
2

You're spot on. Being able and willing to admit you're wrong, green flag. Anyone pretending to be flawless needs to be avoided. This goes for men and women. Being flawless is completely unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:06 PM
2

Sounds very egotistical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:11 PM
6

And that's the crazy part. If a woman gives the slightest appreciation for an attractive man (not pursuing, just oh he looks nice) we are automatically hypergamous. But when men admire women, it must be their natural instincts and "nothing wrong with looking!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:05 PM
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Wish I could upvote this 10,000 times. You are completely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:00 PM
1

Her insecurities will make her submissive. And that shuts things down right there. Age isn't the thing that makes someone submissive. And if that's a pre-requisite for your relationship, let's hope it doesn't materialize. It's only a matter of time until she gets "I can do better" thoughts.... They start prioritizing the good guy over the hot, bad boy. And the male of the species looks at his older wife, who may have gone through pregnancies, gained weight, got grey, few more wrinkles, and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:57 PM
0

Thanks, I needed something to laugh at today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:49 PM
0

The genders are reversed in many marriages, and the women are accused of being leeches, of hypergamy, of leaving the man for a 50/50 split. And that's before there is any indication things are problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:12 PM
0

Tried being nice for the whole of my dating life. You know who responded with any sort of admiration or semblance of liking me? Male friends who enjoyed me treating them like men- joking, banter, and s***-talking. Definitely not the men I dated. So tell me again that women should be nice. I need a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:42 PM
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The question was why don't women have to be interesting. Women looking for hookups don't care if the guy is funny or not. But the original post said men have to be interesting, and the reply said why shouldn't women have to be interesting. She could be a brilliant conversationalist but he wouldn't know because his mind is already in her pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:01 PM
3

Well, if men were more interested in the woman herself and not just her midsection, we'd be expected to be more interesting. But the sex trumps all, doesn't it? She doesn't have to be interesting if he just wants a quickie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:16 PM
18

ikr? So many of the men's bars are ridiculous arbitrary things. And thank you sir, most of us make our own money now, so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:55 AM
1

My point is there are dudes who want both. Screw around now, get a virgin later. Let's fix that double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:51 PM
4

SRSLY. The whole human race could do with some "Step back and re-evaluate." This applies to both men and women. A relationship isn't the ultimate prize, no matter how much people want it to be. And sometimes those relationships can turn sour. Be careful what you wish for. Make sure you are happy with yourself. Then you can find happiness with another human. And these pills aren't going to help you find that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 05:43 PM
3

Did you ask them what they meant? Maybe ask for insights they might have about your personality or hygiene? Anything to indicate? Most people calling themselves incels are fine until they open their mouth and tell people what they think of them point blank. But hey, play the victim. I'm done.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 04:31 PM
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And the questions are primarily how do I get women to date me? Date or screw? The fact of the matter is that straight men want to be sexually successful with women. Well there's my answer. First we need to know if we're just another conquest. Big turnoff unless she's aware and agrees to no strings. That's where red pill gets it wrong. And they contradict themselves by saying "I want to screw women now! But later I want a virgin to marry and have a family!" There's a huge imbalance in these state…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:18 PM
3

You just proved my second point. Thank you for playing.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 04:10 PM
4

And nothing we say will help you understand it's your attitude that repels. You do you then.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 03:55 PM
7

to absolve myself of any reasonable expectation of good behavior and kindness to women I think you just identified your own failure point,
/r/ExRedPill31/03/25 03:26 PM
3

Society tells us women only exist as eye candy for men. To pleasure men and make them happy. And when we say it's about personality, men claim they have nothing to improve. But now you want us to work on ours because you don't like how superficial and self-centered women are. You're only looking at a small percentage. Some of us have worked on our personality too, and made it less about looks so we don't get grouped with the superficial ones. And then you tell us we're 4 and below SMV and you al…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:06 PM
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I'm very sorry, but it is better to know he is so easily swayed now than after you're married and he becomes bitter over imagined slights. Especially if he feels trapped. He may get very nasty then. This red pill stuff is very dangerous. It doesn't stop and only reinforces the insecurity and bad behavior. You will find someone at your maturity level. It's hard, but you deserve someone who truly loves you.
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 02:52 AM
1

What type of love do you mean? Eros: This is the Greek word for romantic or passionate love, often associated with desire and physical attraction. Philia: This term refers to affectionate or brotherly love, often used to describe the love between friends or family members. Storge: This word denotes familial love, the love between parents and children, or siblings. Agape: This is a term for unconditional or selfless love, often used in a religious context to describe God's love for humanity. Prag…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:21 PM
2

Men: "I want a woman with zero sexual experience so I can be her first (whether or not I've had other partners shouldn't matter.)" Also men: "I want a woman who can perform in bed and is down for all kinds of stuff I like to do, without question." Sounds like a paradox to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:29 PM
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Aren't you all the ones saying we ALWAYS have prospects because men's preferences are so low? Turns out not all women meet the threshold for men. So yes, we do sometimes understand. But you'd prefer to think we never could, because WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:00 PM
0

Can we stop with this SMV stuff? Reducing people to a number about prime and talking like it's an auction dehumanizes people. No wonder people are bailing out of the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:06 AM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 06:37 PM
5

Accurate paternity ensures the child has a complete family medical history, crucial for identifying genetic risks like cystic fibrosis or sickle cell anemia. Red herring. Tests done without the paternity element can diagnose many possible problems with genetics later in life. Our prenatal tests are able to find out a lot of possible genetic problems. So that is not an argument anymore. And women will assume all men who advocate for the mandatory testing think they are cheating. Hypergamy is shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 02:31 PM
3

Like ever? Ah, so you're going the never ever ever going to have someone route. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:47 PM
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So you want to save what you have to share with that special someone later. Cool. I'm saying take your single time to develop and better yourself. Doesn't have to involve a lavish lifestyle. Maybe take classes that interest you (self-improvement is not selfish) or find hobbies that aren't expensive and will help you improve. Of course, if someone wants to travel to have a better understanding of how the world works, hey, more power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:48 PM
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Why is doing what you like (if you're single) selfish? When you're married or in a relationship and you just do what you want all the time, that's selfish. If you take that single time to learn yourself, to learn how to be happy with you, that will improve your overall outlook and relationships with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:58 PM
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Went through it. Got married later in life. Didn't freak out during the dry spells. I learned to live with myself and took that time to understand who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:55 PM
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relationships, both platonic and romantic are essentially what everything that is fulfilling is based on If you want to hang your whole life on a relationship, then you have a very shaky foundation for fulfillment. I don't care who you meet, other people will most likely fail you in some way, even if you have what you believe is a very stable relationship. This cuts both ways- men fail AND women fail. Not all, not all the time, but even if they don't mean to, sometimes people will fail. Base you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:52 PM
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They don't. And then they post online about how all women are evil and only want Chad and that women withhold sex for fun. Therefore, delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:00 AM
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And yet there's men on these subreddits saying "I know I'm ugly but I only date beautiful women." So don't tell me men aren't delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:36 PM
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I don't wanna simply "pick up women", that's easy and any beggar can do it if he lowers his expectations. That's not the problem. The problem is that I, an ugly man, want to pick up beautiful women. Well, at least you're self aware ig. Why do they have to be beautiful? And are we talking about the most beautiful, or would you consider below an 8? Because I've been reading a LOT on this forum about how women are delusional in their expectations. In this case, I'm not sure we're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:19 PM
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Employment is a service I expect to be paid for. A relationship should be a connection to another human being, not someone judging me based on my SMV or whatever value you want to judge on. Most of the things men say are what they would preffer in an ideal world but most men aren't truly delusional to think those desires are practical.Women on the other hand believe their preferences are actually practical disregarding data and statistics. Men's preferences are reasonable, but women's preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:37 PM
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I'd argue that the real reason why women don't engage in casual sex is because there isn't any real validation in doing so. Try this- some women don't want casual sex because when she does want an LTR, now she gets- "She's used up." "She's ridden the cock carousel." "She's been run through." So why would we want casual sex? We're going to be insulted and denegrated either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:16 PM
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Fresh and Fit Podcast/Kevin Samuels Yean, I wouldn't take advice from a show with "Womanizer Wednesday" as a feature. Kevin Samuels had advice for both genders, but still, setting "value" on people makes them commodities, not humans. When asked how much do you want your man to earn you get women saying stuff like $200k/year how tall 6'3 how old 25-30....Women think having a job and making money is the end all be all.... Men really don't care about a woman's money unless they're broke or out on p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:54 PM
1

Shortest 3 months. Longest 3 years. No hookups or any ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:43 PM
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Apparently having any standards is delusional for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:46 PM
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🤣🤣💀☠️ With my regular stats, what I'd look for, I was "easy to please". I played with it to see the what a delulu score was, fun little tool. Slanted toward making a woman rethink her standards I'm sure. I'd love to see the male version, and whether men change their mind being told their preferences are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:43 PM
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So this is the bottom line. No matter what women say, red pill men come back with "there's something that makes him better!" That's not a woman looking for something better. That's a man insecure in himself making his excuses for why someone else has what he wants. He is INSECURE. Don't blame us for your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:52 AM
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I did. I've dated men not as attractive as me, I earn more than many of my peers, most men admit I'm smarter, and I've dated men shorter than me But I get to know the whole person, not some lame statistic that people use to measure each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:17 AM
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And in my experience I've never been hypergamous. Whose experience trumps whose?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:18 PM
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They can't make it make sense. Because no matter what we women answer, we're lying/rebelling/settling/wishful thinking.... Whatever they need to tell themselves to feel better about the fact they haven't got what they want... Whatever that is. This whole hypergamy thing is BS, they know it, but easier to blame us than figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:34 PM
3

A novel to tell us you're actually blackpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:23 PM
1

Am I always losing jobs or quitting and unmotivated to actually do anything? In other words, am I not adulting and have no speck of being responsible? In either gender, this is an undesirable trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:17 PM
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I would rather simply treat her like a normal human being with good and bad qualities. I prefer to be kind and treat my partner with respect and appreciation while also calling them when they are wrong. This is the right attitude. Women are not all evil creatures looking for bad Chad and what they can scam from men. Just like not all men are abusers and cheaters, not all women are golddiggers and toxic. You will find the right her, you appear to be on the right track.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/25 02:08 AM
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I think taking things individually, without thinking the worst from the beginning, makes for much more productive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:43 PM
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Ascribe https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ascribe ”to refer to a supposed cause, source, or author : to say or think that (something) is caused by, comes from, or is associated with a particular person or thing” Hey, as long as you think AMALT and AWALT, at least you're being fair. Personally I like to give people the benefit of getting to know them individually, without assuming the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 10:41 PM
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It is obvious you only want to ascribe the worst intentions to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:26 PM
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Applying this logic to one encounter is illogical. I'd have to know more about the interaction. There are literally thousands of permutations as to why she rejected him. Maybe she is into looks. Or maybe she has her eye on another friend, who may be hotter, or maybe not as hot, who may be taller, or not as tall, maybe nicer, or not as nice. If you'd get out of your blinders and look at women as human, you might be able to understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:25 PM
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No, it proves she's not interested in him. He may be nice, he may not. Nothing to do with her main reason for attraction. Can't extrapolate from that single data point. If there's a pattern, then you can use this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:38 PM
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Thought so. Seems others agree that's a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:35 PM
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Agreed- if the opening line is "Wanna hook up?" then hard pass. That's not a conversation starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:10 PM
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How did you get "no uglies" from that? Genuinely curious because I see no reference to appearance in the previous response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:10 PM
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I know all women are not out for a man's money Then I misunderstood. Thank you. I've just heard too may here say we all want men's money. I'm saying that people are generally trying to work out who will date them and then take it from there. Men and women alike. Truth. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:39 PM
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LOL, no, I earn more than most of my peers. I've found personality to be a much better indicator of whether that man is worth my time than his paycheck. Thanks for playing. My attraction is based on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:29 PM
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Yes! Not everyone finds the same thing attractive. I don't understand why this is hard to grasp. But I'm sure someone will rush in and tell you you're lying, despite never having met you. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:54 PM
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Men tend to fixate on looks, not women. Men are the ones who will always overlook a less hot woman for a hot woman. Regardless of their personalities. This is a myth. Men are not doing this Uh huh, men are always altruistic and no one is invisible to them. Even someone not high on the SMV list. /total sarcasm Men totally go for looks. That's what makes them hard. All men? No. Just like not all women are out for the man's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:52 PM
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One, I’ve never said anything about lying. You made that up. At worst, I think there’s a ton of hypocrisy going around on that thread. Hypocrisy is lying. And you said "finally admit it." Like women are lying by omission. You’re making enough cash for yourself? Good for you. You can afford to be even more selective then. Women making more money holds so much stigma, and we can't win no matter how it's presented. Making more? He resents you. Making more? You'll be more choosy. Making more? You st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:47 PM
1

Sorry to hear that. No one deserves abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:39 PM
2

Did she abuse you? Physically, mentally, emotionally or otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:40 AM
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No one should be forced to change, it's hard enough to make changes you do want. This works both ways, men want women to change for them, women want men to change for them. Do what is best for you. If it is not dating or marrying, don't. Just don't expect everyone to jump on your bandwagon because of your bad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:27 AM

In other words, you are undermining my argument based on the common assumption that women are saints And I never said this. Quote me where I said women are saints. I want to politely ask you to don't put words in my mouth. Please refrain from assuming I'm only out to venerate women. I'm arguing for the de-generalization of women that happens based on a few bad experiences. Women are varied and diverse, just like men. But most of these posts are women are generally bad. Both generalizations are h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:39 PM

And yet again we have the "women lie, that proves that women are only out for one thing." Men lie to get women to sex them. So women assume those guys hitting on them want one thing. Same song, different day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:41 PM
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Then show me some substantive studies that show where all women are selfish and out for teh gains. I don't need to date women to know many of us don't fit the small stereotype you group us all in. Are there some? Sure. But then there are men only out for sex and who treat women like toys. Are you all like that? I can send you to plenty of subs where women share how men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:38 PM
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You must have a small sample set and a handpicked one at best. As a woman, I can with certainty tell you not all of us are after men simply for the gains. This is a fallacy, and you telling me advice subs are the perfect example just shows how small your perception is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:59 PM

And you have no idea how many women I've talked to (being a woman) who are not obsessed with the Chad figure men seem to believe reigns supreme. Believe or not (most commenters here won't) not all women go for the 6/6/6 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:55 PM

The internet changed the dating scene for everyone. You mentioned the change for women. Now women are faced with men who have become obsessed with getting the best SMV female they can. P0rn, dating apps, other social media have given men the idea there are so many top tier women and they all decide that while women's standards are too high, men's standards only reflect what's out there. Average women (perfectly acceptable options that may not hit the sky-high SMV men look for) are invisible to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:52 PM
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The solution is to stop generalizing the genders. See people as individuals, not the hivemind you think we are. Until then, you are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:12 PM
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Bottom line- a woman messed me up, so no one should get into a relationship. Cause generalization and manifesto and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:18 AM
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Ah, I get it. First, that sucks, I'm sorry she cheated. The GF cheated, he decided "I'll go generalize about women in a forum with a majority of like-minded men about All Women to event my frustration." Seems like a common theme here. "Womynz bad, man sad."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:15 AM

Right??? Ive had one crush in my life on a man 6ft. All other crushes and boyfriends were within an couple inches of me or shorter. Heaven forbid we say "men are [insert undesirable trait here], but so many men in this forum lump all women in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:05 AM

I'm thinking it reflects only those women visible to OP. Those of us who aren't model perfect and could even want a relationship with a regular man (not all of us chase Chad) are completely invisible because we don't fulfill the fantasy created by his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:43 AM

Unlike men, who don't benefit from hypergamy Who says? Isn't this a sexual marketplace, where everyone has a Sexual Market Value? Don't tell me men don't benefit when they find a younger hotter model. And there are plenty of trade ins. Also, some of y'all are WAY overestimating your "good man" status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:38 AM
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Sounds like you are part of the problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:32 AM
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In their minds, your role is to be a provider, pay for stuff and entertain them. You as a human being don't matter to them that much, you're just a means to an end. This is what most unsuccessful men say about women. In their minds, your role is to be a sex toy, work for pay while keeping the house, and have babies. You as a human being don't matter to them that much, you're just a means to an end. And this is what many women are believe they get from men. So which side is right? Neither. We nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:15 PM
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This. If anyone thinks anyone else is a wallet, butler, maid, servant, whatever, they need to not be in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:41 PM
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Then find a woman who doesn't expect these things. We exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:04 PM
8

Paying for first dates No. Not in this day and age. Can we go back to the "whoever asked pays", even for dates? Buying flowers weekly without asking No. Once in a while is nice. But why weekly? Sounds expensive. 'Sidewalk rule' Is this the one where men should walk on the outside to protect the woman? It's a nice gesture. Opening the door for her always If you got there first, open the door regardless of gender. Pulling out the chair for her before she gets seated Meh. Not necessary. I mean it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:53 PM
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Original post: why are men blaming women when they do this to each other? This reply: But women make us.... I think you've just made his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:20 PM
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A subset of women does not represent the whole. Some women may do this. This does not mean all will. Just as a small subset of men are only interested in FwB/hookups/ONS. Does this mean all men are after that and won't commit? AMALT? If not, then AWALT doesn't work either. Moving on... I've heard people say this, and I see no basis for this other than men's insecurity about being the "loser" in their situation. Most men who fear this have a wife/girlfriend who has had partners before, and they f…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/25 03:56 PM
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Real. So much dehumanization making people commodities. Work on you. That's the only piece you can truly control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:47 PM
3

Exactly, both sides have standards, and both sides complain about each other's standards. We're not going to solve this until humans start recognizing they all have standards and we need to figure out what is actually important. (For me, it's personality standards. No a**holes. Even if they fit the 6/6/6 or 7/7/7 rule.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:26 PM
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Men aren’t the ones saying “where are the good women?” (Outside of chronically online spaces) *Dies of laughter* 💀💀💀 Seriously, tell me another one. Plenty of men all over asking "why aren't there any good women" which when translated means "why can't I find someone to my standards even though there are plenty of other women. I just need her to be a 10, a virgin, and great in the sack."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:35 PM
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A subset does not speak for all women. There are some of us who often looked at a man's character first. Weeded out a lot of undateables. But then many of the "good" men ignored us because of a few pounds, less than perfect hair, acne, skinny, too tall, too short, teeth too big, glasses, not blonde/brunette/redhead. We didn't fill that model 10 list. And we all know that men only want women for one thing anyway, if we are generalizing.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:50 AM
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Generalizations about human beings, who are individuals with their own personalities and problems, doesn't allow you to actually see the human. Should I generalize that you are a misogynistic bigot because you hate women? I've seen enough men talk like you to make that generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:11 PM
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Breadwinner mom/wife here. Don't speak for everyone if you don't know everyone's circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:17 PM
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And your answer to women who ARE the breadwinner of the family? What do you think of them? (Not 50/50 families, ones where Mom works and dad stays home.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 10:03 PM
2

I see you ignored the part about him pretending to love her, when all he's after is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:54 PM
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It's basically a transaction, he provides and in return they have sex with him and pretend to care about him. "It's basically a transaction, she provides sex and in return he pretends to care about her." It goes both ways. I've read too much manosphere doctrine saying "enjoy the sex but don't get caught up in love stuff."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:31 PM
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