Confetticandi Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
21	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own		Confetticandi	/r/ExRedPill	24/04/20 05:51 PM

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1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness Pt2 Cause and effect of proposed gender roles in dating: Groups like incels come out of nowhere. In the traditional system incels would have a place because they could achieve something for themselves. But now, not so much. Now they organized and are basically making themselves known that ugly men have a harsh time in the modern dating market. Some even go out to do mass shootings. Honestly, if you take a look through an incel sub, a lot of them are obviously suffering from body dysmorphia or so…	/r/ExRedPill	21/10/20 09:40 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness So being physically attractive is a condition that most people pretend they don't have, but unconsciously do. I wonder if there really is unconditional romantic relationships. Who knows I think physical attraction is a condition people readily admit to having. It's not even unconsciously, and that's perfectly fine. It just shouldn't be the number one thing. You need to find your partner attractive, yes, but you're also assessing them for the whole package. So one person being physically hotter t…	/r/ExRedPill	21/10/20 09:39 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness Pt 2 What we agree on: Men weight looks more than success and women weight success more than looks. Women get more romantic approaches from men than men get from women. Men have lower standards for partners when it comes to things beyond looks. Men are more desperate for relationships. Do you see how all of these issues come from the same source and feed into each other? Because once you do, you will see how dismantling the gender binary is the best thing we can do for men AND women. The source …	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 04:38 AM
2	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness What you want, what I want, what everyone wants is love in the unconditional sense. But how do you get unconditional love? Shit, I have unconditional love for my close friends and best friends. We trust each other and I love them unconditionally. For my cat also, and parents. But I never seen it happen except movies and fiction. Dude, that is how this works. Unconditional love is like familial love. It literally means "no conditions." Your family loves you simply because you were born into that …	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 04:38 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness Yet, I still see that women when women know a guy is filthy rich even if he inherited his wealth then she wants to be with him. Or when a man wins the lottery, suddenly he becomes attractive. Of course you can find that. It's not like users don't exist. There are also many guys who won't look twice at a woman their same age and who break up with their wives after their bodies are changed from having children or as soon as they hit middle age. There are plenty of men with second and third wives w…	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 03:17 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness I feel like everything you’re describing keeps coming back to the same fundamental assumption: that the men going after women are interested in them as people. I’m trying to point out that this is a flawed assumption. We both agree that women get more in-your-face sexual attention (and there are reasons why women are less inclined to take men up on that), but love is not easier for women to find. You could possibly make an argument for companionship, but you’ve said yourself that ugly women and …	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 06:11 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness FemaleDatingStrageties I have no idea what this is. Dude, I don't date fuckboys. I don't hook up and I've had a series of longterm relationships that ended on good terms. I don't know what you're projecting here.	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 05:03 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness FYI: click "formatting help" to properly quote Maybe you are a dime of a dozen to even considering dating males with lower income. I've spoken to female friends, listened to female voices and they usually marry men that are more than them, that the guy must be taller, stronger, higher income. Maybe you can confirm this and share your thoughts, but it seems to be somewhat true. IME, if you adhere to this gender binary, this makes logical sense and both genders are to blame for reinforcing this dy…	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 05:00 AM
1	Why Do Serial Killers Get Love Letters From Girls? Casey Anthony, Jodi Arias, Leslie Van Houten, Laurie Bembenek, and more have all had male admirers write them love letters. Physically attractive killers attract people with that specific fetish. Why do these men choose to ignore that they are killers?	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 04:32 AM
2	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness They’re pointing out the difference between correlation and causation to you. You are assuming a causative relationship between these two variables: “promiscuity causes marital dissatisfaction which leads to divorce” They are pointing out that you cannot distinguish this from correlation: that people who are more socially/religiously conservative do not believe in promiscuity and also don’t believe in divorce, so they are more likely to be sexually chaste as well as more likely to stay in an unh…	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 04:25 AM
3	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness I'm not sure what men you see, but I know plenty of guys that would give up their entire life for a woman. To make her happy, and plenty of men are exactly like this. Whenever I see someone saying men only care about one thing (sex). I never understood it, in my own life, I've had many opportunities to have sex but turned down women because it's not something I value. No, men as a whole don’t only care about sex. The point is that 90% of the “options” women have lining up to be with them that yo…	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 04:18 AM
1	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness But don't women find status and money attractive? Don't girls date guys with higher income than them, and rarely date down? The better question is here why men don’t when they should also. Men should be valuing women for their achievements too, but instead often feel put off by them. I’ve dated multiple men who earned significantly less than me and they were the ones who were unhappy when they found out. High earning female friends have reported the same. If men are unwilling to be the lower ear…	/r/ExRedPill	15/10/20 04:44 PM
2	I think fundamentally men just want to be loved by the opposite sex and not having that leads to groups like incels, MGTOW, TrueForceLoneliness But women on the otherhand in their age group get a line of men wanting to give them their love. No, they don’t. They get a line of men wanting to use them for sex and not really caring about them as a person. And this only applies to average to above-average looking young women, as you admitted in your posts. There are tons of women out there who can find guys who will have sex with them, but repeatedly get rejected for relationships. You also admit that many men are desperate for affection and…	/r/ExRedPill	15/10/20 04:29 PM
3	Women here who've said that women are pickier than men: why and how do you think women are picky? I would agree, society has become more progressive about women’s sexuality. For example, I remember in the 90s when even though her music videos and public image were extremely sexually provocative, Britney Spears had to publicly proclaim that she was a virgin who was saving herself for marriage. That was important back then and made all the sexuality “excusable” somehow because she wasn’t actually a slut. Jessica Simpson did the same thing. Princess Diana’s virginity was a big deal too. Then in…	/r/ExRedPill	15/10/20 06:15 AM
4	Women here who've said that women are pickier than men: why and how do you think women are picky? Yeah, I understand where you’re coming from as an individual, but I was speaking in general terms. I’ve known women who don’t fit the profile I described either, but would you agree that there is far more societal pressure on men to be having sex and so they attach their identities to it as a result? That’s what I was talking about. There’s more desperation because it’s more tied to identity and self worth for men. A virgin woman is one thing, but a virgin man is a loser with something wrong wit…	/r/ExRedPill	15/10/20 02:55 AM
9	Women here who've said that women are pickier than men: why and how do you think women are picky? I think women deal with loneliness much better for a variety of reasons and are much more likely to be fine actually “going their own way.” So the lack of desperation makes it easier to be choosy because you don’t feel like you need a relationship to avoid spiraling into self-loathing. Also, sex is riskier and less likely to be gratifying since it tends to revolve around the man’s orgasm. Being alone with a man is much more physically risky too. So for casual sex, you’re looking at having to rem…	/r/ExRedPill	14/10/20 10:08 PM
7	Women here who've said that women are pickier than men: why and how do you think women are picky? I've also seen where "most women" think that 80% of the men out there aren't attractive. enough. Where "most men" think that 70% of women ARE attractive. This figure comes from an informal Okcupid survey where women rated 80% of men as average or below, but then in that same study they also showed that the women messaged “below average” men anyway while men almost exclusively messaged just the “above average” women. So, really not solid evidence for the claim that women are all after only 20% of…	/r/ExRedPill	14/10/20 09:55 PM
7	my vision of women is fucked up and probably irreversible, studies and life experiences do nothing but confirm it Girls are more likely to be immature and have low self-esteem which are two things that make one vulnerable to redpill tactics, sure. I’m mostly saying that your sample size right now sounds like it’s essentially 3 women: your mom, your sister, and your girlfriend. Which is virtually worthless because not only is that automatically specific to your particular native culture, location, and socioeconomic level, it’s specific to you and your sphere. Incredibly limited and incredibly biased from the…	/r/ExRedPill	22/08/20 11:05 PM
11	my vision of women is fucked up and probably irreversible, studies and life experiences do nothing but confirm it So you really haven’t been out in the wider world around actual, adult women then, which puts your assumptions in context. You don’t have a diversity of experience at this point in your life and yet you’ve concluded that your limited worldview and life experience must represent all there is. Seems fairly solipsistic and irrational to me.	/r/ExRedPill	22/08/20 10:45 PM
5	my vision of women is fucked up and probably irreversible, studies and life experiences do nothing but confirm it So you live at home? Are you a teenager?	/r/ExRedPill	22/08/20 10:39 PM
3	Are Redpillers on the rise? Has it completely gone mainstream? I think this dude’s comment from under that video perfectly captures the zeitgeist of the movement: I’m really disappointed that comment section isn’t full of angry women venting their rage at this woman who’s telling them the truth. It would have been so much fun to read those comments. Instead it’s mostly just men going ‘yep’ What a perfect representation.	/r/ExRedPill	17/08/20 07:03 PM
4	Are Redpillers on the rise? Has it completely gone mainstream? Idk, having seen the transformation take place in the US (and UK) from 2012 to 2020, I personally have come to believe the opposite. The fault in that reasoning is that it hinges on the assumption that people behave rationally, but they do not. Rational people may be able to discern good evidence and good reasoning from bad, but the average person apparently has no clue. We see plenty of evidence now of people seeing bad ideas debated and soundly debunked in open, mature forums, and they do noth…	/r/ExRedPill	17/08/20 06:50 PM
11	Does anon have a point? I don't want to be bitter, but what do we do about the role men are still forced to occupy in society? 27F here and I’ve also experienced the flip side problem, where I’ve attempted to treat an SO to experiences and things he couldn’t otherwise afford because I wanted to see him happy and instead he said he felt emasculated by it and resentful.	/r/ExRedPill	08/08/20 05:10 AM
1	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH My point still stands. Information plus hatred or that same information minus the hatred. If both exist, I see no logical reason why the former is preferable.	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 09:07 AM
2	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH We’ll see	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 09:03 AM
2	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH You wouldn’t be able to tell whether or not it was an accurate depiction of the actual adult world since you wouldn’t know.	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 09:01 AM
2	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH Then you would leave the community and pick up a Men’s Health magazine and find the exact same advice without the added hatred against women. I could find appreciation for British history and German classical music from white supremacist forums just as well as other regular history appreciation groups, but it would be irrational to decide to feed my interest in those things from white supremacist forums and claim to just ignore the rest of the hate for all other races when I could get the same i…	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 09:00 AM
1	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH We all have our teenage phases I suppose. One day, if you ever have a daughter, I wonder if you’ll be able to look her in the eye and tell her you appreciated the advice you got from a group that thinks she’s worth less than your son.	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 08:57 AM
1	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH That’s a false binary. People familiar with the real adult world know this.	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 08:48 AM
3	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH If you don’t think women deserve to be treated like shit, just continue to follow that same generic advice on forums that don’t believe women are lesser beings than men and don’t push people to think the same. If you were telling the truth about not liking the hateful stuff, that would be the obvious, logical course of action. Willfully choosing to continue to take advice that could be found everywhere specifically from a forum that promotes other things you claim to abhor, and not from any one …	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 08:46 AM
3	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH It’s not a matter of whether or not the word is offensive. The matter was whether or not TRP promotes misogyny as part of its philosophy.	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 08:39 AM
3	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH Says the best way to understand the core values is to look at the top posts and the sidebar Hasn’t actually read the side bar... “How to Train Bitches” is an example. You know you could actually call TRP misogynistic and all those things but what kinda sucks is that techniques work and until there comes a point where this strategy doesn't work thousands of men won't stop using it and I honestly doubt a more effective strategy is gonna come up anytime soon The core tenants that work (confidence, …	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 08:36 AM
1	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH Do you not know your own side bar?	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 08:11 AM
2	A LOT of you were either MISGUIDED or STRAIGHT UP NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE REDPILL TO BEGIN WITH The sidebar resources literally say “all women are like that but not all men are like that,” call women “bitches” that are solipsistic while men are not and say “bitches want to be controlled”	/r/ExRedPill	06/08/20 07:50 AM
6	All red pill taught me was to hate women and I couldn't live with the constant negativity in my life. Because entire subreddit (purplepilldebate) already exists for that. If people want that, they can go there. Other forums exist for sharing thoughts, experiences, and support with like-minded people. The exmormon subreddit doesn’t want/need to be inundated with Mormon missionaries. They’ve already decided Mormonism isn’t for them. It would be a waste of time and energy and ruin the purpose of the sub.	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/20 04:26 AM
6	All red pill taught me was to hate women and I couldn't live with the constant negativity in my life. Their side bar explaining their ideology literally refers to women as “bitches” and says “bitches want to be controlled” and that women are “solipsistic” and that “all women are like that but not all men are like that.” That is hateful.	/r/ExRedPill	19/07/20 01:23 AM
5	Some Information for Exredpillers - Let's Have a Discussion No, it makes it less so. You know five couples and are not very close with them. If you actually go out in the wider world and are social and meet people, you get to know many more than just five couples. If you meet them in a variety of settings: work, social orgs, parties hosted by friends, etc., you'd see a variety of dynamics exist because they do. Off the top of my head, I can list 10 couples I know personally who don't fit your description and who TRP would claim do not exist. Here's one c…	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 09:26 AM
4	I am redpill and I want my views to be challenged And "all the women I've dated" is how many women? You also said you have ASD, so there's another blind spot. It just is. So how can you be sure when you have impaired social perception and are incapable of empathy? You can't. I don't look down on them at all. And yet: women are more likely to give up morals for their own benefit than men are. So essentially, "women are morally inferior to men," and: "Bitches are built to obey" sounds very condescending, but you see. Women follow. Always. Your wo…	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 09:14 AM
1	Some Information for Exredpillers - Let's Have a Discussion You never answered my question. How many married couples do you personally know in real life? Where you are friends with either the husband or wife.	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 09:03 AM
4	Some Information for Exredpillers - Let's Have a Discussion You're a financially independent adult and you know two married couples? And you've taken your sample size of two and decided it's representative of the entire planet?	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 08:48 AM
2	Some Information for Exredpillers - Let's Have a Discussion So you know two couples? Are you still living in your parents' house? Are you not a financially independent adult yet?	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 08:42 AM
8	I am redpill and I want my views to be challenged The women you’ve dated are a skewed sample because the common denominator is you, and you’ve said you’re a sociopath. Normal, socially well-adjusted, perceptive, emotionally healthy people aren’t keen on dating sociopaths, especially ones with redpill views. No person with a good sense of self and solid self-esteem enjoys going out with someone who looks down on them. Therefore, you can hardly project a very limited, very skewed sample size onto half the world’s population. That’s just logic. My…	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 08:15 AM
2	Some Information for Exredpillers - Let's Have a Discussion How many married couples do you personally know in real life? Outside your family.	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 07:38 AM
17	I am redpill and I want my views to be challenged However, I think me being a sociopath is what has made it so easy for me to accept the red pill, because I see it as an objective reality. It’s made it easy because you don’t have empathy and so you cannot fathom other people. Your worldview is inherently limited and flawed this way. It also doesn’t make you any more logical, as evidenced by this belief because it falls apart as soon as you go outside and actually get to know a wide variety of people (men and women) on a personal level, which yo…	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 07:14 AM
6	Some Information for Exredpillers - Let's Have a Discussion Their entire side bar which is supposed to be your orientation to trp is full of hatred. Their own guide to their ideology describe women as solipsistic, interchangeable, “bitches” with no individuality and no use beyond their looks and wombs, that crave being treated as second class citizens because “Bitches are built to obey“ (that is a direct quote).	/r/ExRedPill	09/07/20 07:06 AM
1	Problem with women First off, if you’re 16, your dating pool at the point in your life is extremely small. School is not real life. In fact, even outside of school, your hometown is not the only social reality. I always found it difficult to make friends in school (I had a few good ones, but could never fall in with a group) and I chalked it up to myself not fitting in because I was different. Then I moved to the other side of the country after graduation and realized that holy shit, nothing was ever wrong with me…	/r/ExRedPill	07/07/20 09:14 PM
4	Why are TRP Men so emotionally invested into Red Pill Ideologies? Are you happy? Do you have a loving family? close friends who care about you? hobbies and passions you pursue that bring you joy? Do you do things to help others? Do you feel good in your own skin?	/r/ExRedPill	07/07/20 05:21 PM
2	Why are TRP Men so emotionally invested into Red Pill Ideologies? Lol yeah. Also, he identified himself as MGTOW when everything I just described (happiness and life fulfillment without a relationship) is what MGTOW claims their members will be able to achieve through their ideology. And yet he clearly can’t relate.	/r/ExRedPill	07/07/20 03:39 PM
18	Why are TRP Men so emotionally invested into Red Pill Ideologies? All their side bar resources explaining their ideology describe women as solipsistic, interchangeable, “bitches” with no individuality and no use beyond their looks and wombs, that crave being treated as second class citizens because “Bitches are built to obey“ (that is a direct quote). Do they need to say “We hate women” verbatim to openly express their hatred for women? Poke around some Stormfront forums and see how often white supremacists explicitly say the words “I hate black people.” They …	/r/ExRedPill	07/07/20 09:11 AM
1	Why does no one acknowledge Women are not open to dating autistic/non neurotipical men most of the time? Yes, that’s what that analogy means.	/r/ExRedPill	30/06/20 02:06 AM
1	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own Do you think those things necessarily follow one another though? Because I feel like there are plenty of men who pursue success, are proud of the salary they earn and their career achievements, but have no problem loving, respecting, and appreciating a woman who makes less than they do. I really do feel the same in the reverse. My point is that the other way is so widely accepted, and frankly encouraged, to the point where those few men (because another I dated genuinely didn’t care) project tha…	/r/ExRedPill	01/05/20 06:41 PM
1	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own Then you can respond to my previous comment and answer my question about why I’ve been fine with the reverse and how I’m doing anything different?	/r/ExRedPill	30/04/20 07:20 PM
8	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own I guess I would wonder how you feel earning more money translates into “limitless power” over them and total control of the relationship? I’ve been in a couple relationships where the income balance went the other way, and I never felt like that person had limitless power over me. They just did the same things that I described: sometimes I would wait at home while they worked long hours or while they were away on a business trip, they’d sometimes have to do some work while we were on a vacation.…	/r/ExRedPill	26/04/20 05:22 PM
7	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own Then why is hypergamy even a concern for them?	/r/ExRedPill	24/04/20 08:41 PM
5	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own I obviously haven’t dug too deep into it, but isn’t TRP a proponent of traditional relationship dynamics with the man being the dominant decision-maker and provider?	/r/ExRedPill	24/04/20 07:11 PM
5	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own I’m in the six figure range, but I live nowhere near Ohio.	/r/ExRedPill	24/04/20 06:35 PM
11	TRP Perpetuates "hypergamy" on its own Well, I don’t know your situation, but I picked up more than half or all a lot of times because it made financial sense and I was happy to do it. Like my post stated, I wasn’t the one with the problem. I paid for entire vacations because it was in my budget. Sounds like you may be attracting more traditional women.	/r/ExRedPill	24/04/20 06:29 PM