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Update: Haven't seen "B" since, but "A" texted me out of the blue on Friday night just gone. Told me her problems via text, I told her to ring me, within 20 mins of that text I was over at her place - stayed there for like 12 hours. Done the deed three times and we're messaging and talking about next time. So "going for broke" (like you said) was the right move. She loved it! haha. Cheers!
/r/seduction25/03/18 06:37 PM
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Depends on the female. Not every man can be tarred with the same brush. I know a few REALLY stunning women who have been out with nobodies. It was their personality & looks that won these women over, not social status.
/r/seduction05/03/18 08:09 PM
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You the man, Joe! Great content. Keep it up, sir! ;-)
/r/seduction20/01/18 11:06 PM
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And without the amount of stairs built, I'd favour that it's happened.
/r/seduction20/01/18 08:55 PM
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Has anyone ever died falling UP their stairs, though?
/r/seduction19/01/18 02:41 PM
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Either have a MONSTER cock or move on.
/r/seduction16/01/18 10:03 AM
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Agreed. I've learned some AMAZING things in the short time that I've been using this sub.
/r/seduction15/01/18 03:28 PM
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Chandler Bing, is that you?
/r/seduction14/01/18 06:23 PM
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She's got to make a decision IF you want something serious. If not, just have fun my man!
/r/seduction12/01/18 03:31 PM
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If he has you over in some kind of way or if there is a GENUINE attraction between the pair of you.
/r/seduction11/01/18 07:14 PM
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For some reason this has only shown up in my notifications now, but thank you all the same, bud. You've been nothing buy awesome with your help. :-) I haven't spoke to her since NYE. Think it's going to stay that way now... Thanks man.
/r/seduction03/01/18 04:13 PM
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I was only joking. My point was that you know your shit. I bow down, sir! ;-)
/r/seduction31/12/17 02:38 PM
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Brilliant post, US.
/r/seduction31/12/17 10:23 AM
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Teach me! :-)
/r/seduction31/12/17 10:10 AM
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This.
/r/seduction27/12/17 04:42 PM
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Thanks bud, I appreciate the reply. The things I've done for her and what I've said to her, you'd think that she'd already know how much I want her. No need for her to need "reactions" when I've shown her my hand. Tis weird. Oh I know she's insecure. ANY compliment to her is immediately shot down. And it's like right now, she's put an FB status up which ends up going down the "inbox me hun" route (a real attention seeker-type status), so even when I say "hey, things alright? what's up?" it'll be…
/r/seduction27/12/17 03:36 PM
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Spot on.
/r/seduction26/12/17 08:58 PM
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My man! Pattern watching is where it's at!
/r/seduction17/12/17 11:08 PM
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Moar!
/r/seduction17/12/17 11:00 PM
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Awesome reply. Thanks, RB!
/r/seduction16/12/17 04:12 PM
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And what about women who have hit 30/30's, what is usually their opinion on men of the same age? What are women looking for then? Looks? Security? Maturity? I ask as I still see "women" at that age go after the wrong guy, usually guys with next to no prospects etc.
/r/seduction16/12/17 09:50 AM
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Noted.
/r/seduction13/12/17 10:27 PM
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Cheers Q. Sure feels like it, but what if someone one better doesn't come along for her? How much longer do I or should I be made to feel like this for?
/r/seduction13/12/17 07:32 PM
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Noted, and already on it.
/r/seduction13/12/17 04:59 PM
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Yep, sure sounds like it. Reckon now is the ideal time to go or after xmas?
/r/seduction13/12/17 02:58 PM
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How do I go about that, PP?
/r/seduction13/12/17 02:41 PM
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Thanks for the reply. In fairness, I... 1) Have thought about not speaking to her every day, but she's never had a relationship (although she isn't stupid) which might give off the wrong signs. 2) After what I saw online, I too messaged a few other women and got chatting to them. I'm supposed to meet one this weekend. 3) She's already got me a bunch of gifts, so there goes that idea. 4) Funny you should say that, because after we had our last argument I got a BUNCH of female profiles trying to a…
/r/seduction13/12/17 02:41 PM
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I was hoping that we'd have a relationship as she seemed to be quality relationship material. Of course we're not "together", but how can she (and myself) put that much time into someone EVERY DAY for MULTIPLE hours and just assume it's only friendship? We've already been through a lot for a short amount of time.
/r/seduction13/12/17 09:58 AM
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Currently having/had this happen to me. She would mention that the guy was willing to do the handyman work (I'm useless at it), how he'd text her at like 1.30am, how he'd do this, that & the other. There was ALWAYS something sexual in those "tests" (because that's what they were) i.e. what he wore, why he rang, what he said etc. I just literally ignore them, focus on the TV and laugh (to which she will say "what's so funny?" then I'll say it was this show...), either change the subject or wait f…
/r/seduction13/12/17 09:51 AM
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Definitely. I once saw a girl that I'm friends with make a status on social media, and the last part was "spend the rest of the day playing with SC filters". She is nigh-on 30 with multiple kids. Immature would be putting it lightly!
/r/seduction13/12/17 09:44 AM
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So you've never challenged a woman's behaviour?
/r/seduction15/11/17 09:39 AM
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Ok Dad :-(
/r/seduction15/11/17 09:39 AM
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Well done! It takes balls to ask a chick out, and you should be proud of yourself for doing so. Keep plugging away, man!
/r/seduction13/11/17 10:21 PM
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This one has self esteem issues (bullied at school, doesn't take compliments well at all) but isn't super super clingy. Maybe that's because she's actually got a brain? She will txt back immediately (99.9% of the time) when I txt her, but she does have her moments of keeping it strictly to texts only. But we have been intimate a bunch of times and she is submissive. That's concrete.
/r/seduction11/11/17 09:52 PM
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Some great replies, guys.
/r/seduction11/11/17 09:47 AM
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A comment I read on here which I though was money was "how's the weather over there?". Providing you live in the same city, it should get a reply. But the "Birthday" comment left below is money in the bank.
/r/seduction11/11/17 09:46 AM
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Hahaha! I like that.
/r/seduction11/11/17 09:43 AM
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Yes sir!
/r/seduction11/11/17 09:41 AM
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Great post.
/r/seduction10/11/17 07:14 PM
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Calm down, dude. No need for the hostility.
/r/seduction10/11/17 05:04 PM
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I don't think it's as cut & dry as "you both fuck, that's it". It's not a "are you free? come to mine in 30 mins, if so" kind of thing. I've had PLENTY of FWB's. This isn't one of them. We both get really REALLY deep in conversation, both opening up about some VERY personal issues. We do get VERY intimate, but that's not the No.1 reason why we see each other, as there has been times when we haven't been intimate at all, yet have had a great day out/great time. Hence me thinking it's more than us…
/r/seduction10/11/17 02:18 PM
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I see your point, but at some point IT WILL come up. Xmas, Valentines etc. I know that when you are younger these things become confirmed very quickly, but this hasn't. I just don't want her thinking "why the fuck hasn't this guy made it official/let me know where I stand yet?" that's all. It's alright saying these things, but if she turns around and say's "well you never even asked me out properly" etc, then what? It's back to me thinking "damn, should have made it official back then..."
/r/seduction10/11/17 01:49 PM
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True. But it will come up at one point, that's all.
/r/seduction10/11/17 09:36 AM
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Depends on what your contact with her is like now... Depends on their situation (if they had kids/how well you know them both etc)... Always texting/talking? Go for it. If not, improve on that NOW. There are children involved and you're friends with both parties? Avoid. Depends on many things, OP.
/r/seduction10/11/17 08:54 AM
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Good luck!
/r/seduction09/11/17 06:22 PM
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Good idea.
/r/seduction09/11/17 04:09 PM
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Ah well, there's always next time. Good job!
/r/seduction09/11/17 04:06 PM
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I'm in the same boat (looking for something long term). Good luck with it, and let us know how you got on. ;-)
/r/seduction09/11/17 09:05 AM
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Nice! Looks like someone will be getting busy...
/r/seduction08/11/17 11:38 PM
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Why do women retreat, though? It's SUPER annoying. Stick with her, OP. You're nearly there!
/r/seduction08/11/17 10:33 PM
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Good man! Well done. This forum can work wonders for people.
/r/seduction08/11/17 10:26 PM
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No problem.
/r/seduction08/11/17 05:17 PM
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Spot on. Move on, OP. Also, that's a well written post. Some of the posts on here are a nightmare to read (unlike this one)!
/r/seduction08/11/17 08:35 AM
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This.
/r/seduction07/11/17 04:32 PM
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This.
/r/seduction07/11/17 04:31 PM
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In
/r/seduction07/11/17 09:30 AM
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True, to a degree.
/r/seduction06/11/17 06:04 PM
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Just flat out ask her. There's always tension between you two She's telling you she has time on her hands She's giving you signals See the pattern? SHE is always putting it out there. Now it's your turn..
/r/seduction06/11/17 08:49 AM
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Depends on how the first date went and when it was. How did it go? When was it?
/r/seduction06/11/17 08:46 AM
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Just do something on the Sunday with her. Due to work, I only see my girl on the weekend, but we txt & chat EVERY DAY and we make sure we meet up on the weekend. And it's actually good because I get to do my own thing in the week, and when we meet we ALWAYS have a great time. Communication is key here. If you are both getting on well, what's the problem? And if you do meet her on Sundays, it goes well between you two, guess who she will be meeting up with when she gets another day free? Yep, you…
/r/seduction06/11/17 08:45 AM
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This. It might help to a degree in terms of confidence or he has changed his style because he has lost weight, but it all comes from inside. You could meet Miss World, but if she has as much depth as a cup of coffee, well, it's not going anywhere.
/r/seduction06/11/17 08:33 AM
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This. She wouldn't mention it otherwise.
/r/seduction05/11/17 09:31 AM
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Great stuff, OP. I agree with you fully. I was into this one girl for ages and then it dawned on me that she was an attention seeker. It never went anywhere with her, and then I met another girl who I am now VERY VERY happy with. Now that attention seeker is merely a memory. Even when she txts me out of the blue to ask how I am (it's because she's not getting attention and wants some) I just blank her. Feels good to move on, man!
/r/seduction05/11/17 09:29 AM
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Outstanding. How come you've done so well?
/r/seduction04/11/17 11:43 PM
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Isn't there an option on these sites for that, like "Looking for friendship", "Relationship", "Just friends" etc?
/r/seduction04/11/17 12:07 PM
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Give her time.
/r/seduction03/11/17 10:01 PM
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This.
/r/seduction03/11/17 09:09 AM
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Well done. You will probably end up sleeping with her this time, so bring protection!
/r/seduction03/11/17 09:05 AM
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So what was the outcome? Did you go for a walk? Go to a hotel? Secure another date etc?
/r/seduction03/11/17 12:12 AM
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This.
/r/seduction02/11/17 06:17 PM
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Go for a walk indoors in a mall/centre then ;-)
/r/seduction02/11/17 05:56 PM
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Go for a walk, do some window shopping (if you're close to a town centre). If it goes REALLY WELL, you might just end up going to hers instead of the walk.
/r/seduction02/11/17 05:15 PM
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In.
/r/seduction31/10/17 06:35 PM
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I love the old "I like women, not girls" line (which is true in my case). When a woman hears that, it's game over - she's all yours!
/r/seduction31/10/17 08:44 AM
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Again, this.
/r/seduction30/10/17 08:23 AM
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This. I don't see the problem with talking in-between dates. Unless the date is tomorrow or the day after, why would you keep it light? It'll seem like you're not interested in her. Just go with the flow. And if that means you chat/txt for ages, then so be it. That's a good sign, IMHO.
/r/seduction30/10/17 08:22 AM
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Agreed. Hotel meets can be risky in many ways, but my word are they exciting!
/r/seduction29/10/17 07:17 PM
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One weird (safety for me) thing I always did was this when it came to hotel meets... I'd say to her meet me at this place (somewhere busy like a train station etc) at 12.00, and then I'd be waiting within view of that place 60 mins before with a coffee & paper. If she came on her own, I trusted her. If she came with a male, I knew she'd be trying to rob me. I know that sounds strange, but it beats inviting her to your hotel room and the getting an unexpected knock after 30-45 mins. Do that, txt …
/r/seduction29/10/17 08:25 AM
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Whatever piece of equipment she is using (e.g. squat rack) ask to "work in" with her, then move on from that.
/r/seduction28/10/17 12:20 PM
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This. Or ask her if she's free to speak. If not, carryon on txting - don;t make a big deal of it.
/r/seduction28/10/17 08:25 AM
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Depends. Not EVERY woman wants a "Tall, dark, handsome" man. And not every girl wants a man with abs. "Rough & Rugged/Rough around the edges" men have their place, too. I've met women when I've been fat & thin. Met women I thought I had NO CHANCE with when fat but they loved me, and vice versa when I was slimmer. There's something for EVERYONE out there. Not just that, but if you only have the aesthetics then you are screwed in the long run.
/r/seduction28/10/17 08:23 AM
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Who were "Mystery" & "Juggler"? In for a schooling of these two.
/r/seduction28/10/17 08:20 AM
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This. MOST girls LOVE to talk. It's actually a good thing if you're not good with small talk due to them keeping the convo going. Just listen, pick up on what she say's, and go with the flow.
/r/seduction28/10/17 08:18 AM
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Her schedule is pretty predictable due to her not having kids & staying in all the time after work. But yeah, I'll ask her and report back. Top man, Nuno. You've been awesome to me on every thread I've made. Thank you very much, sir!
/r/seduction27/10/17 01:33 PM
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She's going for a meal later with friends, I've got a weird feeling she will ask me over to hers after. If not, but we're still txting, shall I say "I want to take you out for food on Sunday, fancy it?" or not?
/r/seduction27/10/17 12:33 PM
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I've already been on a date with her and been to her place a bunch of times. But I'm thinking of taking her out for some food at some point this weekend, well that's the plan. Reckon I should ask her? Yeah, your txt guide would be gladly appreciated mate.
/r/seduction27/10/17 12:26 PM
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This!!!! It's a weird but amazing feeling.
/r/seduction27/10/17 11:53 AM
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Noted.
/r/seduction27/10/17 11:52 AM
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Is lady like (doesn't swear, acts classy etc) Has a career/goals/aspirations etc Doesn't "live for likes" (God I hate that so much in females!!!!) Is emotionally stable (all are mental, some less than others) Is kind/good hearted (I hate horrible women)
/r/seduction27/10/17 07:56 AM
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Nice!
/r/seduction27/10/17 07:48 AM
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I actually enjoy seeing this in a woman, it proves she's being genuine and isn't putting on an act. It always makes me break out with a sly smile when this happens.
/r/seduction27/10/17 07:46 AM
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But we're back to where we started (constantly txting), so what's the plan now? Just go with the flow?
/r/seduction27/10/17 07:43 AM
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Bud, I've already fucked her and it means nothing to me. I actually would like to get something going with her, but games aren't what I like being involved in. Again, I'm at the age where I want something meaningful, not a fling.
/r/seduction26/10/17 11:11 PM
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Clearly not, but knowing where I stand at my age is paramount. Going from lots of contact to next to nothing inside two days, at my age, is something I have to pull her up on. That will clearly help, too.
/r/seduction26/10/17 02:26 PM
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Already done it, whoops! She agreed it was moving quite quickly, said "I don't know what to say" after I asked where I stood (I did leave her an essay) but she seems alright about things now. We've been txting all day again and we're cool for now. Things seem to be improving and I hope they go that way.
/r/seduction26/10/17 02:04 PM
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So I should make a move now, yeah? And how should I go about it? Do I ask where I stand or do I try and make a date with her (already tried for this weekend to which she said "we will see/maybe")?
/r/seduction26/10/17 08:24 AM
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Thanks for the reply, dude. Much MUCH appreciated! But... How long should I ignore her for, though? She's been acting weird since Tuesday night, it's now Thursday. I feel that if I ignore her she will think "he was never interested, time to move on". What are the chances of her txting me back? Don't forget that we met online, and she has been online since she started acting weird. She told me that she just cannot take compliments well (you guys are right about self esteem) so could she have gone…
/r/seduction26/10/17 06:54 AM
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I had a feeling that she MIGHT have been with someone last night as I did meet her online (and she was online today!) and it's unlike her to not pick-up and barely txt. But I've been with her nearly every night of the last week, and talking to her that often that if she was to meet someone or put in effort, she night not have the time. And she might have wanted a day off from me/her? Answer me this: Why would she ignore me if she's got low self esteem? I've don't nothing but give her genuine com…
/r/seduction25/10/17 10:45 PM
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Dude, great reply, thanks. I tried ringing her a bunch of times yesterday but all I got was "my phone was on silent". Because she was "ill" she never took my call (but still replied via txt). I kinda think that she thinks that things are moving too fast, hence blanking me. I think tomorrow is D-Day. I'll see if she's feeling better, and go from there. She will either txt me and tell me that she's feeling better and we will talk at some point during the day, or she will still play this game and I…
/r/seduction25/10/17 10:31 PM
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Calling. Txting can either be long winded, the gaps in-between some texting really drives me mad, and everything can be interpreted wrongly. You know where you stand with a call.
/r/seduction25/10/17 09:51 PM
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Nothing out of the ordinary. But she'd still txt me to see what's up. She would be like "cool, no problem" when I said I'd ring at 'x', but call at 'y'. But for some reason she has gone all cold on me. And that's only within a day. And we were talking for HOURS each day, and seeing each other regular. Low self esteem might be the issue due to her never having a relationship before, but knowing where I stand would help the situation.
/r/seduction25/10/17 09:11 PM
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When ignored: Just one word answers and huge gaps in-between txts I highly doubt she doesn't like me. I can see the signs, and they're all good. Why would she ignore me the more attention I show her, though?
/r/seduction25/10/17 06:21 PM
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Thanks. But why would she be acting like this though?
/r/seduction25/10/17 05:59 PM
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Already done it.
/r/seduction25/10/17 12:11 PM
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Agreed. I ALWAYS get told that I'm a mix of both (when I get to know a woman & tease her etc). It always gets me what I want.
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:30 AM
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Ask her if she had a good time, make a joke that she looked like she was, and maybe work it from there?
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:20 AM
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Good work, sir! Keep it up.
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:15 AM
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If you don't ask, you don't get. Ask her out!
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:13 AM
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This. It certainly doesn't hurt to have it, put it that way. There is a VERY fine line between confidence & cockiness. If you can find that line you will be fine.
/r/seduction25/10/17 07:11 AM
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In all honesty, I got a TAD needy earlier. But we are ALWAYS teasing each other, making each other belly laugh constantly. So the "fun" aspect of it is nailed down.
/r/seduction24/10/17 11:00 PM
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Ha! I was going to arrange a "date" with her within the next week. We've already eaten at hers (a take away), so I could do that again IF she doesn't fancy going out. That & a day trip = winner, no?
/r/seduction24/10/17 10:00 PM
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THIS!!!! I have seen two middle aged adults in a coffee shop snogging the face off each other, and it was DISGUSTING! Everybody in the shop was appalled. Just get a room when it gets to that stage in public.
/r/seduction23/10/17 08:47 AM
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This. and you should ALWAYS go with the girls rhythm & tempo when kissing. Always.
/r/seduction23/10/17 08:46 AM
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Yep, calls are gold. I've found that just one call can escalate things MUCH MUCH MUCH more than txts ever could. Less chance of crossed wires (txts can be a killer for this), much more chance of finalising a date/meet, and things just move further more quickly. I personally LOVE phone calls.
/r/seduction23/10/17 08:45 AM
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Do it, take that gamble.
/r/seduction20/10/17 12:59 PM
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Couldn't have picked a better place, IMHO.
/r/seduction20/10/17 12:58 PM
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Chin up, bud. You will meet someone ;-)
/r/seduction20/10/17 12:58 PM
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Wow, you don't mess about! Good luck with the date.
/r/seduction20/10/17 12:57 PM
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This. If you don't get really intimate, so what? But things seem to be really going well, so keep at it. Don't force it!
/r/seduction19/10/17 01:18 PM
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This. Messing about is cool, but it's not for everyone (just like constantly being in a relationship isn't).
/r/seduction19/10/17 01:14 PM
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Again, if she is then it will just flow & flow.
/r/seduction19/10/17 01:11 PM
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This. When you're into someone, the conversation just flows and flows.
/r/seduction18/10/17 01:35 PM
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This. Some people are VERY VERY friendly. We've all took that for something else.
/r/seduction18/10/17 08:04 AM
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She might genuinely be very busy. But you should have gone in for the meal. It would have done wonders for your situation. You say she sometimes initiates, so if she is very busy then she won't be doing it at all. Don't sweat it, play it by ear, and if nothing comes of it then move on.
/r/seduction18/10/17 07:45 AM
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Yes! The "3 rule" (or as I call it, "three strikes and you're out" rule" is a great rule to have in most areas & situations in life. Comes in very handy in situations like this.
/r/seduction18/10/17 07:43 AM
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In for the knowledge bombs!
/r/seduction17/10/17 08:06 AM
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This. Done it last night (and it was all truem btw) - worked like a dream.
/r/seduction17/10/17 08:05 AM
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Get to know her, then maybe ask her out if I like what I've heard.
/r/seduction17/10/17 07:58 AM
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It's either EXTREME boredom or you just haven't found the right woman yet.
/r/seduction16/10/17 08:42 AM
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Move on if you haven't been intimate recently/she don't txt you at all.
/r/seduction14/10/17 09:02 AM
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Awesome reply, sir. One that I'm very grateful for as well due to how in-depth it is. Every time I try and get to arrange a meet at her place (it's the best place for it) she always seem's to knock me back ("I'm busy" etc). So nothing comes from texting, but the longer I go without texting her means she ALWAYS makes the first text in however long the gap was between us not texting each other. So there will be no "Ok, I will see you there @ x o'clock" as she always has an excuse. Man, this makes …
/r/seduction13/10/17 11:06 PM
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Cheers. So if she texts again, should I just blank it completely (and keep on doing so)? I'd imagine that would burst her bubble! Haha.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:30 PM
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Wow, ok, relax dude. I have hooked up with her. Did everything but fuck her as she was very adamant she was "on", so what could I do? I know full well I could again if I met her, as she was all over me last time I saw her. That's what's fucking me up. Thanks for your (angry) input! ;-) seriously, thanks.
/r/seduction13/10/17 07:41 PM
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Well, that's how I feel. She will post the most stupid and annoying shit on social media, and I think "that's a blatant cry for attention because seven people are mentioned in that post!". But trust me, when I'm around her she is like a kitten. She is really into me, so it can be hard to know that she's like that when I am around her, but getting around her is the hard part. I get your point, but I've seen her argue with her bf online at like 8.30, 8.31 I'm getting a txt from her. So you can see…
/r/seduction13/10/17 06:03 PM
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Noted, thanks.
/r/seduction13/10/17 06:00 PM
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Bud, she won't have ANY of that. She's got kids (busy), hangs around with this annoying cling-on (they train every day) and then there's the usual bullshit she's tied down with. I've said many times "I'm coming over, make me a coffee x" etc, and it's always "I'm going to bed/can't because the kids are here/any excuse". Even when I try and push through, no joy. Why she wants me in her orbit if she won't do anything is baffling me. I won't be friend zoned as it's been too intimate between us & I p…
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:51 PM
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You will have to if there is an obvious spark between you two. If there is, you win. If not, you learn.
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:47 PM
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Bud, I mean she was standing right in front of me just waiting for me to pull her in, if that makes sense? She said she denied every friend of her man's when it came to sexual advances, and I know she had her eye on me for some time so it was putting 2 & 2 together, really.
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:34 PM
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Bud, this is what REALLY grinds my gears. Tell me how it is, don't mess me around. That's why I hate getting involved with women. Too much hassle. So what do you reckon? Forget her completely?
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:32 PM
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That's what I've done funnily enough (ignored her). I did it for like 8 weeks (silly, I know. But I knew she would only waste my time) then I got the "oh hey, just seeing how you are, haven't heard from you in ages" txt. So ignoring her isn't a problem, but I'm bored of it now. "Shit or get off the pot" is how I'm looking at it.
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:25 PM
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Basically, I had a reason (family death) and we were due a catch-up as I hadn't seen her in ages. Of course I touched them before being intimate. She threw out the signs, I acted on them. Next thing you know I'm at hers every other day.
/r/seduction13/10/17 05:22 PM
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Yeah, but still no joy. It's a bit of a pisser. Because I KNOW when I'm around her, she wants me. But getting her around me is the hard part. I'm not some 10 year old who plays kiss chase/gives attention out till I'm blue in the face. She either wants it or she doesn't.
/r/seduction13/10/17 04:48 PM
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Yep. Never dated them. Just got intimate with them AFTER being long time friends with them, and now we're still great friends. Never did get the whole "I'm only friends with men/people I don't fuck" etc. You can chill with a girl, possibly meet her friends, who knows? Always try and keep your options open, IMHO.
/r/seduction13/10/17 04:44 PM
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/thread. Well said, n5. Well said indeed.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:49 AM
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This. Also, you can majorly mess things up with texting too much. Keep it simple, secure the next date, profit?
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:38 AM
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Maybe fun & food, or one or the other? Fun dates are always good to do AFTER you have broken the ice with a first date. Take her to the zoo, crazy golf, the beach, fairground - ANYTHING that is FUN. You nail this and your insecurities will vanish.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:37 AM
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This. You CAN still be friends after being intimate with them. i've found that the friendship becomes better/stronger.
/r/seduction13/10/17 08:32 AM
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Good work, Hec!
/r/seduction12/10/17 08:06 PM
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This! I have a naturally deep voice, but the amount of times I've tried NOT to go high pitched and THEN been complimented on the huskiness of it is silly. Like, had I just gone that bit higher, a few seconds later I would not have received a compliment. Compliment = confidence booster.
/r/seduction12/10/17 01:19 PM
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"Unhurried speech" that's such a good one. I'm nervous around women, but I noticed a long time ago that If I can control the speed of how I talk then I automatically become relaxed. Just drum it into your head to speak clear and concise and you soon lighten up/make things easier on yourself.
/r/seduction12/10/17 08:32 AM
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Either approach more women until the nervousness goes away or man up. It's fight or flight, IMHO. Just REALLY back yourself and go for it. It CAN be VERY hard, but nothing ventured is nothing gained! All the best.
/r/seduction12/10/17 08:29 AM
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Haha, dude. Thanks for the reply. Re A: I said the period wasn't a problem, she was certain it was. Even when I tried to finger her she moved my hand and meant it. I still got to do other naughty acts with her, but she wouldn't have sex because she was "on". And I honestly don't think I would either due to a prior experience which was horrible. I tried, but she rejected it. But when it comes to texting "A" it goes like this... It's Friday night, she will txt me about anything, our plans come int…
/r/seduction12/10/17 07:43 AM
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This.
/r/seduction11/10/17 10:35 PM
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My pleasure, man!
/r/seduction11/10/17 09:40 PM
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I thought this guy would be another con-artist, but this is a genuinely good guy, you can just tell. Great advice, great content on the channel (as mentioned, keep putting it out there and you will blow up) and your transformation is downright CRAZY! Literally, you look like a new person. i'm looking forward to more content, and I hope you blow up, Joe. All the best, brother.
/r/seduction11/10/17 07:45 AM
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I don't think a comment like that is ALWAYS a "shit test". Some women are just horrible and have zero filter. If a woman say's that to me with malice, she's getting it right back at her.
/r/seduction11/10/17 07:42 AM
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This.
/r/seduction10/10/17 09:07 PM
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Try it, let me know how you get on. If she doesn't seem happier that you've tried to make it about her and not her ex, get rid of her.
/r/seduction10/10/17 03:29 PM
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Agreed. Brad Pitt in "Snatch" - that's what most women like. Or a fitness model look.
/r/seduction10/10/17 11:26 AM
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This. This, all day. You would not believe how good your game/flow is when you expect NOTHING out of it. Soon as you start overthinking, you're screwed. Seem's as if when you don't go looking for it/force it, it comes naturally. You HAVE to start approaching women. You WANT them, right? Well go and GET them!
/r/seduction10/10/17 11:25 AM
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This guy gets it. Not so much "treat them mean to keep them keen", but if she isn't your partner, then you ONLY do stuff with her that you would with a friend.
/r/seduction10/10/17 08:29 AM
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I honestly don't think you can stop it. I've got friends that can meet MULTIPLE women EVERY DAY/NIGHT, but once that one hooks them in, it's game over. These guys would never go short of women. Some people are better at getting over it than others, but two years with one person = a strong bond. Hard to not feel like she's "the one" after that amount of time together.
/r/seduction10/10/17 08:07 AM
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Great post, DP. I'm the same as you (haven't got the time for games). When you lay your cards out on the table like that and get it thrown in your face you do think "maybe I did read that wrong..." but it's a sigh of relief when you both move on as time is too precious nowadays & at our age. EVERYBODY lives on or through their phone nowadays. So to "not see" a message, 3 days later there's an excuse, her getting defensive, seems like you dodged a bullet. Which is a shame as she matched up with y…
/r/seduction10/10/17 08:02 AM
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Not in my experience. I was talking to a girl the other day who had split up from her ex. She was talking about him (as was I) and we both kept calling him a certain name. I said "anyway, enough about that insert name here, so what have YOU been up to?". Worked like a dream. Here eyes lit up/dilated, she had the biggest smile... Women love it when YOU are genuinely interested in THEM. It's such a powerful move, that it will ALWAYS be easy for you to seal the deal after this (my opinion of course…
/r/seduction10/10/17 07:41 AM
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It can be a bit uncomfortable. Just move onto another subject though. "Enough about him, tell me about insert her life/hobby/herself etc" seems to work. I just put an end to it, pronto, as it gets really uncomfortable for both parties in the end.
/r/seduction09/10/17 08:46 PM
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:-)
/r/seduction09/10/17 05:27 PM
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True.
/r/seduction09/10/17 04:53 PM
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Cheers for the reply. As I only bump into her in public places, and I have no fear of making out in public places, it's bound to happen in public. She was saying to me last time that she's "over him/needs a man" etc. I'm thinking make my move then, no?
/r/seduction09/10/17 03:47 PM
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What about if it's in a store again, like last time?
/r/seduction09/10/17 12:19 PM
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Dude!!!! We actually had that moment after she was talking. I did miss it, tbf. But when we were finished talking we both walked off and her mind was gone. She didn't know what she wanted to buy (we were in a store), the things she had in her hand she was putting back in the wrong sections (food btw), she didn't know where to go, and there was some real f*cking tension/energy there between us. So would you say that when I see her next time it should be a done deal within minutes?
/r/seduction09/10/17 08:32 AM
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"you certainly pull a few interesting facial expressions" ... Gold. I've said that a few times and it''s worked a charm.
/r/seduction09/10/17 08:18 AM
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This.
/r/seduction06/10/17 09:57 PM
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Happens to everyone eventually.
/r/seduction06/10/17 08:39 PM
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In my experience, if you've gave them a REALLY good time in the bedroom, they seem to react quicker than ever before. Like, they will send you a message HOURS before you'd think it was the right time to send one. I wouldn't go silent if it was more than a one-off/or if I wanted to further things. Even if it was a one-off, I'd still text and see how she is/see where you stand. Summary: Fire away. Don't go silent.
/r/seduction06/10/17 07:55 PM
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Good points.
/r/seduction06/10/17 06:57 PM
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Comes with time & experience. You will know "the look" when you see it. From there, it's game on.
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:42 PM
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Agree to disagree. But if you're doing everything right, I don't see the reason to cheat.
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:41 PM
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Hector, see my reply to this and see if you answer it please, thanks.
/r/seduction06/10/17 08:44 AM
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This. This, all day. When we're talking, I'm fine. But approaching has killed me. Hence why when me & female friends have messed about it's because that stage is not there, therefore there's no crippling fear, and more time spent on the following stages. If I had that lack of fear I'd be ruthless. I've always took rejection personally, in all circumstances. So the fear of it stops me from approaching like a man with no fear. When I'm up close & personal I think "what the fuck was I so worried fo…
/r/seduction06/10/17 08:22 AM
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This. You'll end up hooking up further down the road, but daily/weekly interaction is finished once you start fucking (unless you become an item).
/r/seduction06/10/17 08:14 AM
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It wil come with time. But 19 years old? Therapy? For confidence? You're in your prime! Go out there and enjoy yourself. Dude, just get out there and be yourself. Not every girl is going to belittle you or take your head off. Don't take knockbacks seriously. Dust yourself off and come again. Because there WILL be someone who likes you and it WILL go further. Then you will be like "the fuck was I stressing over?". I was 19 once and I too had no confidence. But it does come, and you just have to s…
/r/seduction06/10/17 08:10 AM
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That's usually the most obvious thing to think, but sometime when they cheat with you on them, it can be the right move. I've seen it happen a bunch of times regardless of how strong or how long the former relationship was/went on for. Love works in mysterious ways, man.
/r/seduction06/10/17 07:58 AM
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More or less this, in a nutshell. You HAVE to "man up", as it were. Being indecisive is a killer, plural. You have to go after it. It's happened to me recently, and it nearly happened to me in the past (I could feel it slipping away) but when I took charge and went after it (and got it) I was like "what the fuck was I worrying about? That was EASY!". Have a clear idea of what you want and get that shit asap!
/r/seduction06/10/17 07:56 AM
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Getting them to come to your gatherings might be tricky as A) they have a life, B) they have to put the work in to their own relationship. But if that DOES work, you will certainly know where you stand a lot. I'd have thought that digital communication would have been your best bet here because you can see what their status is before you hear about it from someone else (i.e. you see she's put "single" on fb, whereas you'd hear she's single time after if you heard it from a friend). So without so…
/r/seduction05/10/17 10:54 PM
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Exactly.
/r/seduction05/10/17 12:45 PM
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It's not so much chasing only these two, as I have a few girls that are in my zone at the moment. I was just baffled, like, why ME, every time they leave their feller.
/r/seduction05/10/17 12:45 PM
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Dude, great post. I really appreciate the reply. As mentioned, "A" - I couldn't have been further from hesitant had I tried. I took her into the bedroom from the living room, I undressed her, made all the moves etc (although she was still super game/into me. She seemed a bit submissive, hence me taking the lead on everything). She then pulled the "period" card. So, if anyone was being hesitant then it was her. She's still really into me whenever we meet, but still won't go all the way. Why not? …
/r/seduction05/10/17 07:47 AM
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Well put.
/r/seduction04/10/17 10:38 PM
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'sup?
/r/seduction04/10/17 05:37 PM
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Blushes Thanks! Grammar is a big thing for me, hence the smoothness of this thread. That is another good point, though (re: being comfortable around me). Here's why... I've talked to these girls when they've been with there fellers (just as friends) and they (especially "B" in this situation) have gotten deep'ish with me. But "A" has REALLY gotten deep with me since she split with her man. Same with "B". But with "A" it got as far as sexual talk - and it stayed there, too. Hence why we were all …
/r/seduction04/10/17 05:26 PM
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I hear you, but it is a lot more complicated than "he didn't fuck them, therefore he knows nothing". We all have the same circle (to a degree), lived in the same city for years etc. There is a LOT of history between us. It's not about scarcity or being confused, just kind of took me back as to why me (in terms of do they think I can keep things hush if we have an affair etc). Does that make sense? Also, it being that two girls texting is something I'm putting out there for a pat on the back (whe…
/r/seduction04/10/17 05:02 PM
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Good point.
/r/seduction04/10/17 04:49 PM
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Ha! I've looked better. I'm no oil painting, but I'm decent. But if these girls always hit on one guy in particular after the split, I'd still be like "what is it with him?"
/r/seduction04/10/17 04:00 PM
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Far from it. Just baffles why me, and not any other friend gets hit on/what do they see in me. Is it because I can keep a secret/don't put everything out there, therefore they know they can play and get away with it?
/r/seduction04/10/17 03:09 PM
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Thanks for the reply, sir. I have to say, I didn't think of it like that. That night be why things never go further than what they do. But the bad things these guys do (and that have caused to to lose their women), I don't do (crime/boozing etc). So if they see the good side and no bad side, what's holding them back from going with me permanently?
/r/seduction04/10/17 12:59 PM
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