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That's 100% fair - every man should be able to provide for a family by the time he hits his 30's. I'd always make sure the mother of my child had a place to live and food. Whether that's with me under my roof and rules, or somewhere far away where I'm simply providing money for those things, either scenario is fine. We all have to do the best with what we are given. A luxurious lifestyle would never happen though. Even if I was insanely rich and the woman was perfect, there's always something to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:37 PM
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Once you're in your 30's you hit a point where you realize the only tangible thing a woman can offer a man is a child. What people call "love" is temporary, volatile, and based on immutable factors. It's something you experience as a young adult a couple of times and then realize it's not healthy. Real love is that feeling of duty we have for family, parents, and children. It can happen, but it's a bad bet to rely on finding someone who will treat you like that in life, that you are also attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:03 PM
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Don't confuse the act of sex for it's potential to represent love and commitment. Sort of how you can have the marriage ceremony, but now imagine the government no longer acknowledges it, so marriage has no real-life value. Suddenly something that used to be important to all women, now feels a lot less meaningful doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:38 AM
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Historically, her virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:19 AM
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You are describing many Native American-like societies. The difference is those societies were more free loving and women were very open sexually. Not a terrible way to live life, but also one that is very likely to stagnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:22 AM
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So essentially no use for men? Those men then form more patriarchal societies and overtake the ones who only cater to one gender. That's at least, why patriarchies are so prevalent today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:22 AM
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At the end of the day all that matters is a cohesive family unit. How does a matriarchal society police their own sex drives and choose men with family-oriented values instead of sexual attraction? It's never happened before, and it won't happen until women start taking responsibility for society as a whole and not just their own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:54 PM
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You know it's funny, they used to call a 40 year old virgin a "Wizard" as an insult. But the closer I get to 40, the more I think about embracing the title. Being someone who other virgin men look up to for advice doesn't seem to be the worst thing in the world. Life isn't bad...not at all. And it's not like you don't get opportunities as you go through life, it's just that the opportunities that present themselves would have led to me likely being miserable and hurting another person in the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:39 AM
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The greatest lie ever told is that men don't like being used for resources. We like to provide and feel useful. We just want to be appreciated and respected for providing a safe and stable life (which modern women don't care about because of forced equality and daddy government). And also not be monkey-branched on because some men can afford more luxuries in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:31 AM
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Chicken and the egg, my friend. Women entering the workforce is what drove salaries from sustaining entire families to individuals only. That's the beauty of society, one macro change has cascading effects down the whole chain of cities/families/individuals. Saying "A woman being able to make a living today is good, because it is required of them", is a funny one because it's redundant. If women couldn't work for themselves, then it would not be required of them. Anyway, it's not something which…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:44 AM
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You could also just say you care about her more than most men will, and it comes from wanting to protect her/keep her away from guys likely to treat her like shit. And as men, it's our instinct to believe other men will take advantage of her if given the chance. It's all just perspective. Plus it's not exclusive to men - mate guarding goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:07 PM
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Why are men so afraid of being judged by women? And why do you presume lack of judgement only comes from inexperience? Men want to be judged on what they can control - especially what they can offer a particular woman that no one else can (IE Proving his motivation to provide, listen to, and work with her as being stronger than anyone else in the world). But we don't want to be judged on traits that are only markers for competition with other men (What's he look like? How competitive and confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:15 PM
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I just laid it out to you why men care about n-count, or at least, a woman's past. We can have an affinity for all types of women, but we value some more than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:06 PM
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As for this specific example, a woman using a dating app is going to perceived as someone who has a past in 99% of situations...that's why her claiming to "hold out for sex" is humorous for a man (because she likely hasn't in the past). All you have to do is realize that there are levels to a man's psyche: Level 1: We are sexually attracted to most women, and will likely have sex with someone if she's willing, available, and even moderately attractive. But this means nothing about commitment, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:13 PM
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I don't even know this person. This is just a writing style.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:20 PM
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And my retort is: You may be content being single, but wouldn't you rather have someone of the opposite sex that you trust completely? As a man, I feel like we have a lot in common. I want to get to know you as much as possible, and have us become inseparable friends. Will I hint at something sexual on occasion? Probably somewhere down the line, but I'm a man, so we should both expect that. It's not a big deal, you can reject me and we don't have to be weird about it. Will I try again in the fut…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:39 AM
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How exactly did women's sexual/financial freedom change that supposedly caused this massive spike in reported sexlessness? Did women suddenly become 200-300% more sexually liberated or financially independent in 2018 compared to 2008? The only part you aren't accounting for is social stigma and common beliefs, which change slowly. Laws, like women being able to vote and work, happen instantly. However, it takes a while for women to be acclimated into the work force because men have to get used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:13 AM
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I love this thread because it shows there are two types of men: Those who prioritize sex and those who prioritize emotional connection. Seems like wanting one is a direct tradeoff for the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:17 AM
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I didn't claim non-virgin men should be given the benefit of the doubt to be a good relationship candidate, in comparison to non-virgin women. In fact, I think it's wrong to claim that non-virgin people cannot be good partners because they obviously can. I'm saying there is a higher potential to be a good partner if you've successfully curbed your desires in the past. For example, let's take the typical man and woman - both who have a strong desire for the opposite sex. Men fulfill that desire t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:04 AM
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A "man's worth in a relationship"? I'd say that's pretty much impossible to tell unless you spend a lot of time getting to know him and see how he interacts with other people. Although I'd like to hear your criteria on what you think makes a good partner. If we're strictly talking about a person's past with other people as a metric and you asked me: "Is a virgin man likely to be loyal?" I'd say the answer to that question is almost assuredly yes. The problem with vetting men for virginity is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:40 AM
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That groan you heard from your brother was coming from a place of "Damn, he's so right, it hurts". But seriously, I do agree with you that, although virginity might have correlations to how loyal and emotionally well-attached a woman is, it's very much imperfect because of how much our culture pedestalizes sex. In recent days, I've sort of taken on the paradoxical idea that the most loyal type of woman is actually the one who can manage her desire to be in a relationship. This seems analogous to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:57 AM
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Most men who like virgins (not all) like the idea of having someone all to themselves. This isn't a perfect analogy, but it's a solid comparison: Imagine buying a new house that's been built just for you vs. buying a used one that you knew the previous owner died in. In the latter, you have to jump over some mental hurdles: Were the old owners good people and treat it well? Will the drain stop up if I flush anything besides toilet paper down it? Is it haunted? Sure you can inspect the house, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:16 AM
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If they like the guy, women want to receive romance. If they like the girl, men like to perform the romance. It's that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:20 PM
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Serious question: If a man asks you to go on a date, why are you assuming he just wants to get in your pants? Why not believe he's looking to get to know you better and enter into a deep/emotional friendship, where the two of you can open up and learn to trust in one another? If that's all he's looking for, and you reject him 2-3 times when he asks you on a date, doesn't the fault lie on you? Of course anyone's going to terminate the friendship after being rejected like that. And it's because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:50 AM
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Spot on. Looks aren't the end-all-be-all and I don't agree with blackpill doomsdayism at all . But others recognize your potential/attractiveness at a young age and this has very real consequences on how you develop socially. Even then, only a small percentage of boys are attractive enough to have this halo effect happen to them. That's why most boys are competing to be better at sports, being the class clown, the bad boy, or getting attention anyway they can
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:14 PM
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Alternative version: Overly dependent adults keep their significant other in a loveless relationship by brainwashing them into thinking it's the "right" thing to do because of their own fear of loneliness, and don't let them explore other options they otherwise would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:04 AM
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The reason that people don't commit suicide now is because they believe in a higher purpose or because they don't want to cause their family and friends suffering. If people believed there was nothing wrong with suicide, and convinced themselves that it leads to a better place, then it absolutely it would be weaponized by everyone who can't get what they want. "You choose not to understand me, so I'm going to blow my brains out in your living room right in front of your eyes, and that blood will…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 03:53 AM
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God, what a horrible idea. This would only lead to people threatening suicide anytime they don't get their way just to get back at people. "If you don't stay with me then I'll just kill myself!" would be threatened in every relationship. So now all that will talk to you are cold, emotionless robots who don't care if you live or die and just take whatever they can get from you. Again...I just have to say this might be the worst idea I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 11:52 PM
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There's a large portion of men who prefer virginity, or if not virginity, at least want to believe their woman is pure and never really cared that much about the men before him. That's a fact, but it's also easy to see why women push back against this and don't want to be shamed for their past. So most men keep this preference to themselves. It's very similar in that a lot of women prefer men who are assertive, dominant, and even a little asshole-ish. From a man's perspective, it's shitty to thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:42 AM
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I didn't say never invest in people, people will just have to be more realistic about what others can offer them. Gone are the days when one person has to satisfy your needs. So yes maybe you do have sex with some people but it's understood to be just a way to satisfy an animalistic craving...not something you do to feel like you're soul mates. And then others you won't have sex with at all, but you may be so emotionally connected and trusting of one another that sex isn't needed. Just different…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 04:10 AM
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Yes, it's what's healthiest and most natural for us....for a time. Then that time ends and you're left trying to make an unhappy relationship work or moving onto the next one. You can only do this for so long until people start to question this instinct and start thinking maybe it's not the healthiest thing in the world to keep forming attachments and breaking them when they aren't perfect. It's not about sex at all...it's about getting emotionally invested in something you know will end. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 04:03 AM
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I agree that it's healthy to form relationships with one another. But I'd argue as relationships continue to become cheaper, it's inevitable people will start questioning the idea of exclusivity. And they really should because at it's core, the desire for exclusivity is selfish and expecting it from people that you like is animalistic. And hopefully that's a good thing as people will finally get to explore what each person means to them individually as opposed to hoping one person will solve all…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:06 AM
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If AI dolls were somewhat realistic and had an "unlock" feature where you only had access to her after hitting a set goal (like burning 4000 calories that day, completing all your work, or winning at a game), they may not be replace women entirely, but I guarantee most every man would have one for some external motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 03:57 AM
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I don't see why the message has to change for girls from what it is now. Which is basically: Make sure a guy is really committed to you before you have sex, but if you just want casual sex, that's okay too. This is more of a way to just keep boys from getting overly attached before they even know a girl which is something that happens a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 02:53 AM
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Believe it or not, I think the vast majority of boys grow up pedestalizing certain girls and wanting to get into the relationships. Not many are taught to actively seek out and have sex with as many girls as they can. That's something that usually happens later on or if boys are lucky enough to have girls make it easy for him. But that kinda begs the question: Do you think it's ethical for a man to have sex with a woman even if he's not really sure about commitment? I know there's a lot of boys …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:49 PM
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I get what you're saying and it's true and that men (especially married men) will probably laugh at a man who says he wants a virgin in this day and age. However, it's obvious men committed to women non-virgin women are going to die on that hill regardless. I think the only thing stopping this point of view is if men actually do have some kind of genetic preference for virginity or innocence. And that maybe society has repressed this preference because it's unfair to women. Why does that matter?…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:23 PM
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Although I agree with this idea in theory, that it would be great if men just spoke their mind and set standards. However, it doesn't really work. Firstly, any man who stands up and says he has a problem with n-count is going to be shamed and called an incel...which isn't the end of the world. However, there will still be men who say "I don't care about n-count, women can do what they want". And guess what? These men will gain a woman's trust, sleep with them, and then move on when the juice isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:29 PM
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An asshole is a guy who doesn't care what opinion the woman has of him and he just wants her to do what he says. A nice guy is guy who cares about a woman's opinion of him and will do whatever she wants in order to make her like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 01:14 AM
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I really doubt cave men formed committed relationships, they just had sex and women raised the children. Much like primates do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 06:01 PM
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Not sure why it's absurd when it was done for thousands of years and helped bring about your existence in a relatively safe world. And I don't mean to single him out individually because his views are very common in the present day. But that doesn't change the fact that dumping someone because they won't have sex with you means you prioritize sex over essentially everything else about them. It used to be that you chose someone based on their family or class, which you can debate if that's bad or…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 08:06 AM
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This makes it sound like you care more about having sex with her than you care about who she is. Which is fine, but I'm not really sure why initial sex compatibility matters in terms of knowing if she's someone you want to be in a relationship with. You're going to be with her for 30-40 years so both of you will eventually adapt to each others desires. In other words, it sounds like her standards kept you from getting what you really wanted - sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:16 AM
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You can be involved all you want. When it comes down to it, society and even the child will almost always choose the Mother over the Father. Denying or ignoring that fact is denying basic biology. You should watch Marriage Story if you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:06 AM
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When it comes down to it, everyone knows the child is more the woman's than the man's. And yes, that also is a similar story for the house. So even if the man provided and paid for both the child and the house, they are now "owned" by her because she needs them to feel safe and stable. So a woman can say she's doing all of these things for the man, but in reality, she's doing it all for herself and her child. For a man, all he gets is the honor of seeing a woman use his resources and occasional …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:33 PM
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It's actually pretty simple. Women who have successful careers, or have dated a lot of men, are pretty used to getting what they want. So when it comes to a relationship, their natural instinct is to find a good man and make him perfect. Men don't really respond to having to live up to a woman's standards well, and would rather a woman conform to his ideal of how things should be. Thus, women nag their men to be better and men find it insufferable when a woman suggests they aren't good enough. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:25 AM
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It's not really a point of what "I" can deal with, because I believe I have the discipline and loyalty to make a relationship work. It's about being able to trust your partner to be loyal and be happy with the relationship 1, 10, and 30 years down to the road. That's something that no human can ever truly predict. You could be the best husband/wife in the world and they could still get resentful towards you for any number of personal reasons. That's even more of a problem nowadays because you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:32 PM
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Ideally you would hope women would adjust to a law like that and do exactly what you say - become a lot more selective in the men they sleep with and choose as partners. However, it's a very radical proposition despite being an objectively fair one, and society would not take kindly to it at first. It would cause an uproar on pretty much every form of media. Also, I wouldn't say it will never happen. The argument for men having equal rights for primary custody is much stronger than a woman simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:46 PM
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What you said is true in regards to the law. All of the benefits women accrue from divorce is just objectively discriminatory. For example, imagine a world where child custody had no gender bias. If men and women are given custody at a 50/50 split, then the dynamics of all relationships would completely change. Very few women are going to risk divorce if there's a 50% chance her ex-husband spends more time with the child and she also has to pay child support. A law like that, which is objectivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:26 PM
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It has to do with cultural norms that are learned from a young age, not something that you're taught outright. Think about how men in movies are portrayed. It used to be that the womanizing, even abusive, men were seen as heroes in many popular movies only a few decades ago. These qualities weren't necessarily seen as good, but they were accepted. Nowadays you'll be hard pressed to find a movie where a man isn't trying to right in the eyes of the woman he likes. And if he crosses her in anyway h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:03 AM
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The misconception here is that "lower tier" men aren't all hopeless, incel types. In fact, most of them probably are average looking and have decent income. The big problem is that these "lower tier" men are actually guys who were raised to believe you cannot have sex without being in a relationship in a woman. They are taught that it's wrong to only pursue a woman with the intention of casual sex or FWB with no intention of ever having a relationship with her. Most aren't even aware that their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:55 PM
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Is sex needed to have a good relationship with a significant other? If so, then it obviously has incredible meaning. If not, then why have it in the first place unless you're trying to have a kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:15 PM
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That's pretty much the point I'm trying to make. You can never be certain who someone will be in the future, so enforced commitment seems like it will always eventually lead to resentment. This type of idea makes both sides accountable for how they act and it doesn't allow people to become content. You end up spending time with people because you genuinely enjoy their company, not on the hopes that they will give you something (like sex or commitment). And if a woman is constantly in the line of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:05 AM
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Absolutely, I didn't really put much thought in the title which is probably a mistake. It's too easy to overlook small details like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 12:49 AM
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I probably didn't communicate my point good enough, but I don't think infatuation would really be an issue like it is now. Since there's no chance of commitment or entitlement, people don't worry about "obtaining" another person. You simply end up spending time with the ones that you trust and share the most in common with. And time is most precious because it makes the feminine feel safe and the masculine can look out for the person that they believe is worth protecting. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 12:47 AM
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You really can't, it's based completely on faith in her and her giving every man a fair chance. Obviously no man is going to settle for being treated unequally compared to another man--that's why that condition is necessary. ​ That's why it's theoretical and idealistic. It's entirely possible, just don't expect it to ever happen in our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 10:45 PM
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I'd actually argue that cultural norms are huge component to love. If attraction was purely based on biology and emotion, we'd be very animalistic and jump on anything that came our way. ​ You do raise a good point about the man having other bad characteristics, but that's why I'm talking more in theoretical terms. Assume the guy is perfect in every way except you give him the choice to come and go as he pleases. The point is, you have to have full faith that he's committed to you as opposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 10:35 PM
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