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I agree with this post so much, but I’ll say fuck community, be the change you want to be, men as a whole are never gonna join together for the better good, neither will women, just do this for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:51 PM
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You literally started your last response by saying “I assume you mean sex” so yes you were talking about sex. The nature argument is terrible because I could point to all sorts of things that occur in nature that us as humans would find object-able. The whole issue is you just like most women think it’s a privilege to be in their presence and spoiling her when it’s most definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:16 PM
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Not to be offensive but I really feel like you and similar responses are going out of your way to be disingenuous and ignore the point of my post. Not once in my post am I saying a woman ought to give up sex on the first date because a man paid. My entire argument is that the dynamics of dating places mens fulfillment as a complete after thought which is the inverse with seeing an escort. I think even in general being someone who is okay with accepting somebody doing for you with no reciprocatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:15 PM
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So let me ask you a question? Is it not dehumanizing men to accept free advances, meals etc. without having the expectation to deliver a fulfilling experience to them? (Not just sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:05 PM
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See that’s the wrong assumption, I don’t mean sex I mean actually being invested in making the date as enjoyable for her as it is for you. My whole point is that dating is catered towards a women’s satisfaction while the men’s satisfaction is a complete after thought. That does not mean at all women have to give it up on the first night, it means especially if a man is paying their should be an expectation set on women to make it an experience that’s worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:03 PM
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I can’t relate, I’ve had both experiences and I’ll take the escort anytime, less of a hassle afterwards and the sex is better, I could care less about the ego boost of her having burning desire or whatever. Most women fucking multiple men anyways lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:22 AM
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Loyalty, intimacy, specialness and inclusiveness is not guaranteed nor are most women really offering that. Modern dating essentially is a scam women run to profit off of men and offer the least amount of effort possible. The difference between seeing an escort and dating is the escort is honest. I couldn’t imagine someone paying for my meals with no intention of reciprocity and feeling good, most women do this without even questioning the morality, what is dignified in taking free meals? I resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:18 AM
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Appreciate the response and you definitely are right, funny enough I am the married to my work type of guy which probably is more of a reason I find it to be a good option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:36 AM
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I think the most dramatic impact seeing escorts has had on me is that I don’t prioritize sex at all when dating. I know that might come across as a shock to most, but knowing I could pay for sex at anytime really just makes it that I no longer put women on a pedestal because of sex, bringing only sex to the table means coming to the table empty handed for me. All my dating experiences have been a warm approach, having some familiarity with the person before the date. What I get from the escorts …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:43 PM
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It’s great to see women completely dehumanize another woman just because they provide a service for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:08 PM
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Tbh, I think the reason dating sucks so much is because women use sex as a bargaining chip and most men are too weak to admit they’ll do anything for sex. If you take sex off the table or if it’s already guaranteed, the person no longer has that to hold over your head and therefore has to maintain your interest by just being interesting. After seeing escorts, every date has become mundane, not because it’s sexless, it’s because I now realize how little effort the women are putting into the overa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:05 PM
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You do recognize numerous studies show children are better off with a father as the single parent than the mother for numerous reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:36 PM
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Exactly, we could pick apart so many different careers that do exactly this, people just want to act like sex work is completely different as it’s a social taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:35 PM
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Not necessarily, if the money was such an issue why would I pay an escort? Lmao like I said in the post, sex isn’t the only thing in fact because I use escorts I actually care about sex less than the average dude I feel. I have no desire to impress a woman to get in her pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:34 PM
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Been pursuing and dating women the traditional way for most of my life, only been seeing escorts for about two years. I don’t disagree good women exist, I would argue it’s a minority of them but I could say the same about men as well or just people in general. Yes dates don’t necessarily require money, but the larger expectation is men to pursue and create the date as well as pay, which tbh I have no problem with. My issue like I said in the post is that reciprocity is completely lacking for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:21 PM
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I never deluded myself to that fact, I understand escorts have other clients lmao I literally say it’s insane to think you will have a real relationship with one in my post. To your other point, the whole point of this post is that on a large scale in society women’s pleasure is priority over mens in romantic dynamics. You’ve heard happy wife happy life, you’ve never heard an inverse to that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:28 PM
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In my opinion the sex industry strives because the lack of good and feminine women, not the inverse. Nobody would ever say to a woman don’t use men for food and fun times out, that’s literally the whole deal for women and the point of my post. Also like I said I treat escorts with the utmost respect, just because I’m paying doesn’t mean I can respect the person providing me a service.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:55 PM
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I’ve had sex with women for free and escorts, and escorts at large are better in the bedroom department than the average female. Women are overwhelming involved with men for the value they can extract from said man, it’s really no different it’s just doing a direct transaction but somehow it’s better to play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:53 PM
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Doesn’t minimize the fact that they’re better and yes it’s because it’s their job and they are putting effort into it, what’s wrong with that. That’s the whole point of my post, in most dating dynamics it is all about the women’s enjoyment, with escorts at least you know she is gonna put effort into making sure you had a good time as well and get value for the time + money you are investing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:48 PM
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So sex = relationship for you. That’s the biggest bargaining chip you have, your vagina? You are right about one thing I don’t view sex as an act of intimacy, I view enjoying my time spent with somebody intimacy, and not just physically either, I appreciate good conversation, someone who is willing to initiate and engage as much as I am, even if it’s at a price it always is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:23 AM
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Women are humans like the rest of us, not worth more or less than anybody else without evidence of worth which is not shown b4 the date. You taking the bro out to dinner then? Hell why doesn’t a woman just take a man on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:18 AM
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“Courting” LMAO you probably believe in equality between men and women but you think a woman is at the same time some special creature I must court. NO this is the problem right here, women don’t deserve special treatment, I’m not trying to court anybody, I’m trying to have a good time with the opposite sex, a lot of women don’t understand this and think it is some sort of privilege to take them out when they have more to gain and men have objectively more to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:22 PM
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Yeah I can’t relate to that, I lost my virginity long before I ever paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:02 PM
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I’m just saying you could essentially be attracted physically and mentally to someone and they still aren’t good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:00 PM
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No it isn’t and no I never said anywhere I wanted a trad wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:57 PM
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When I first moved into my apartment my ex (didn’t live with me btw) would literally leave food on the floor, I had to tell her you can’t just leave food on the ground. She had her period and bled on my bed, not a big deal but you gotta change the sheets, she had a whole tantrum about changing bloody sheets because it’s natural. I live in a pretty nice area with some pretty expensive restaurants nearby, she would want to go to these types of restaurants racking up over $100 a bill weekly and I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:54 PM
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Basically holding her accountable not just babying her and allowing her to behave any which way she wanted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:48 PM
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See this is very similar to my experience and I appreciate it, I also would only see one while single but yes overall it was one of the most enjoyable times I’ve had with the opposite sex and not even just sexually I literally mean just talking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:44 PM
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Probably more like hundreds, most if not all dates and relationships sadly. Whenever I’m dealing with a woman in a romantic sense, yes it entirely feels like babysitting. I’ve even had my one of my exes sister’s say I was doing essentially what her parents should be doing verbatim. It’s literally like I’m planning a kids day and just making sure they’re happy. I’ll go as far to say even on a sexual level, most of my partners left satisfied while I did not. It’s very very draining and disappointi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:40 PM
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I just want to say I appreciate you going out of your way to have a constructive conversation. The reality is the burden of men to put effort into a woman even precedes that of the date itself. Think about even the advice given often on this subreddit, go get muscles, go make money, develop social skills etc. notice how all of those things are pointed in the direction of men. Not once have I seen any tell a women she needs to be more personable, hell on this post alone I was told it doesn’t show…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:30 PM
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Lol you can kiss hookers, contrary to popular belief, the ordinary girl is more likely to be burning than a worker who gets tested on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:11 PM
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Bro the thing is I can bang hot chicks without paying already lol and have, I have no desire for a purely sexual relationship with a regular woman because 9 times out of 10 she wants boyfriend treatment just because you fucking her and that’s a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:10 PM
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Appreciate that and not even just badly I will add it’s just not reciprocal, nobody women included want to be on the losing end of a deal. The thing is in society women are almost always expected to not really care about what they have to offer and men are almost always expected to lose gleefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:07 PM
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People need to stop pretending sex is purely mental and not physical as well, there are great people that you can love with all your heart that just aren’t that good in the bedroom department if we’re all being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:04 PM
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Women put that same appearance on if they’re going out with their female friends lol women just like to do that shit, no man has ever said yes we want are women to take an eternity to get ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:01 PM
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From my experience and the feedback I get from the women I’ve dated, I’m actually a great date they almost always say they had a great time or better than expected, I however cannot say the same. Basically the women are so minimal effort, it could’ve been any one of the girls on the date. The entire date basically is me initiating every step of the way, the women are entirely passive in the experience other than being eye candy. Best way I can explain it is babysitting, it’s babysitting an adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:58 PM
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Love isn’t real, only reciprocal relationships and one-sided relationships and women overwhelming are the beneficiaries of one-sided relationships because society has made dating about pleasing a woman. Now are there some great women out there who are reciprocal, yes a minority, but most women expect a good man for nothing just because he should want to be a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:53 PM
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This is just stereotypes of a John which an escort can tell you (while some can be true) are far from the truth, funny thing is the richest men in the world, the top 10% guess what? They usually are John’s and use escorts, what you think no celebrity or multi-millionaire is paying for sex lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:45 PM
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THANK YOUUUUUUU.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:40 PM
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I 1000000000% agree with this sentiment, the problem is most people act as if all women are the one you described at the end and that’s hardly the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:38 PM
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My question to you is well if any ordinary woman is gonna take my money and leave eventually what’s the difference other than I’m giving it them with no expectations in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:37 PM
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Most escorts are actually better sexual partners than most women, idk about you but a pillow princess feels more like masturbation to me which most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:19 PM
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Lmao 🤣 bro you are essentially still explaining manipulating someone for sex, I’m not with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:26 PM
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Thankkkk youuuu.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:25 PM
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If you know somebody is assuming commitment and therefore putting out and you take advantage of them, that’s a scam bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:24 PM
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Thank you that’s literally all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:23 PM
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See this is the shit, I’m not tryna dangle commitment in front of any women, I’m not trying to get scammed neither am I trying to scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:22 PM
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Lmao bro even average women are still on average not paying 50/50 for their date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:18 PM
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Key word is possibly, what if you never get into a situation ship and have been over 100 dates lmao. Also, part of seeing is an escort is paying her to leave, men will put up with the most for a women for sex, I have no desire to be with a women for sex because most women (who aren’t sex workers) always want something attached to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:17 PM
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That’s my whole point lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:14 PM
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Lol I can actually, it’s just most women in general don’t have shit to offer but showing up and that isn’t enough if you actually have balls and don’t infantilize women just because you want pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:14 PM
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Bullshit, 9 times out of 10 everything is initiated by the man. The date, the physical interaction, everything, women typically just have the responsibility of being there and accepting or declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:12 PM
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Except it isn’t 60 years ago lol and you staying at home and not doing shit but having a man provide for you is no longer traditional it’s a damn luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:11 PM
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Plus it’s not just the money, it’s the effort and the value of my time, spending $30 bucks for a shit time is a waste of money, hell even if you’re spending $500 at least of its well worth your time you didn’t really lose out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:09 PM
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You are insinuating women are all giving it up first date or that they should, which is something entirely different. And no bro I live on earth and on this planet most dates are not 50/50 probably like 30% tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:08 PM
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Now are you spending more money per date yes but are you saving a shit ton of time and effort, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:04 PM
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I can’t speak on anyone’s financial circumstance but my own and I would never encourage someone to get into financial troubles for an escort, but I am saying is do the math, going through possibly hundreds of dates imagine $50 x $100 = $5,000 over spending that same $5,000 but getting 10 guaranteed great dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:02 PM
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Lmao idk what world you live in where most dates are 50/50 not saying it doesn’t exist but no overwhelming men are paying for dates. And most women do find it less attractive if I guy doesn’t pay and more attractive if they do. I agree men need to stop simping though, that’s actually partly my message, if you want just a good date pay for an escort at least they are providing a legitimate service for your time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:54 PM
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It’s already happening, it’s just some men are willing to do it for nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:51 PM
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Yeah the certain men who only escorts are good enough for, and you are okay with me seeing escorts because you shame them, exactly as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:50 PM
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Lol then why the whole leave everyone else alone? Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:14 PM
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Nah I think you just have it confused because of how you are which is good. But, a lot of women are this way, I do actually have female friends and I love them dearly and they don’t fit this mold at all, but they accept a lot do. Are relationships are genuine and reciprocal which is why I love them, but in society in general, the idea is overwhelming in romantic scenarios men are suppose to do things for women just because. The investment overwhelming is biased against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:09 PM
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I’m not taking offense and that isn’t the issue, the issue is reciprocity, “traditional” women tend to only want those “traditional” values that benefit them. Nothing in what they ought to provide to the man they are with. I also am not RP but anyways, the whole point is that the deal is a skewed, from society’s perspective men are just suppose to treat women just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:04 PM
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I like how you say how I feel about women, then immediately go out of your way to denigrate the escorts who are also women. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:39 PM
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Over 50% of divorces are initiated by women bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:37 PM
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No you’re wrong because I in no means am trying to scam anyone, that’s exactly why I said pay and respect someone for the service they are providing you. You are just okay with men getting scammed in their pursuit of a suitable partner. Also isn’t it feminist saying sex work is real work or am I smoking something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:36 PM
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No marriage/family court laws just are clearly biased against men in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:32 PM
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That’s partly true, a lot of women want traditional values from a man without feeling the need to impart traditional values on their part, lack of effort and reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:29 PM
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I’ve had way more bad dates than bad encounters with escorts. Now I entirely agree on the long-term relationship part of your response but that’s only assuming you have a great partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:27 PM
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Being able to converse is 100% effort, how do you think a man even gets a date if he can’t talk lol, zero effort and the effort for what I assume you mean by “dolled up” is completely different. Men do want their girl to look good, but to the extent of you took hours to do make up and hair, that is more about women’s own desire to look good. Fine splitting the bill, no you should HAVE to split the bill especially if it’s okay to entertain other men. Right there is a clear discrepancy with effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:25 PM
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Like I said in my post, still respect the escort for providing the service, it’s their job, I would never degrade the person serving me food at a restaurant for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:21 PM
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That’s fair, I’d say to this point definitely have that same financial approach to dating. At this point I refuse anything but 50/50 unless we are gonna be fully committed. A lot of women refuse to acknowledge the investment men are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:19 PM
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Most guys do entertain it though whether they want to admit it or not. Simping for a woman who offers you little to nothing in reciprocity simply for sex, which is what a lot of men do if we’re honest is just a terrible deal. Might as well pay someone who is outright providing that service. Also it’s not just sex, it’s the effort in the interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:15 PM
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Who said you gotta get an escort every week lol, maybe once a month, whatever your budget is I guess. I would never say financially screw yourself with escorts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:12 PM
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Sex does not need to be guaranteed, but if any physical contact occurs why can’t a women ever say hey I’d like if you’d kiss me without a man having to take a shot in the dark and face a possible tough rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:10 PM
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Being dolled up means nothing to men tbh women do that for themselves and what I consider effort is a genuine reciprocity, starting a conversation instead of just waiting for me to make one, having any idea of something you want to do instead of all the planning being on me, going 50/50 especially since no commitment is made, don’t be actively entertaining other men while I’m pursuing you meaning if you are talking to multiple guys let that be know or don’t accept the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:08 PM
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Appreciate it and yeah I would say minus just the sex I appreciate the effort being put into the interaction. Yes it’s their job so they have to put on that effort but it’s a better deal than losing out financially and not getting the same reciprocity. I’ve dated women that were far less engaged and present than any escort I dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:02 PM
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Ultimately I just disagree, sex is physical, yes if I have history and a commitment with someone the feelings going in tend to be more intense, but you could also love a person and sexually they are inadequate. As well, it’s not purely about sex like I said in my post, it’s about knowing you are going to get the effort put into the interaction. Transactional, yes but also reciprocal, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:59 PM
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That’s most dates for men. I’m being so honest. 1 in 100 women put the effort in and even then if it doesn’t form into commitment and we didn’t go 50/50 I financially took a loss and the women lost nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:56 PM
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I totally said in my post, be well aware they won’t develop a real relationship with you. I’m not saying all but most women treat a date like you owe them and the effort is minuscule, yes I’d prefer the person pretending, it’s their job and if they doing the service well why shame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:51 PM
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Not really, as long as you’re not addicted and paying for escorts every other day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:48 PM
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The issue with the responses is most women are disingenuous with the fact that the initial effort is not the same due to the baggage. They tend to conflate women who have had prior experiences and are mature to women who wear these prior experiences on their sleeve and refuse to take any accountability for their previous situations. Nothing is wrong with a women who has had previous experience (of course to a prior extent) but to treat me with less initial effort than a man who wasn’t treating y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:17 AM
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I don’t necessarily agree with this rule unless nuance is added, if this one on one time is with someone you don’t know well or someone you had a sexual/romantic history with that is the only objection. I would never say my partner couldn’t have friends of the opposite sex especially if they already had a history of just friendship with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:49 AM
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Sex is inherently a biological need or else humans would have no sexual desire. Also, procreation is literally a part of are existence, without it as a species we would cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:48 PM
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Lol women are not universally choosing the best men, that is the funniest lie that people tell. If that was the case we’d have no baby momma’s begging their abusive baby daddy for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:33 PM
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This is just not true in the human sense, while I would never discourage looking within and working on yourself as a person, the idea that the best partners (great long term qualities) have the most ease in the dating market is completely false because humans struggle to make good decisions in the long term. I’m not saying anybody should be forced to date anybody, but many people are constantly in terrible relationships with terrible partners. That in itself makes a post like this completely irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:50 PM
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Also if this was the case then, where is all your democrat leaders ready to fight Trump and refusing the transfer of power lmao. Joe Biden look way to happy in that photo with Trump to be thinking democracy is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:29 PM
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Save this comment, in 4 years come back when we have a new president. It’s funny the people claiming Trump is so maniacal are the same people trying to get others to believe in a doomsday scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:27 PM
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Lmaoo bro are you serious? This is why Trump won because of ridiculous claims like this. Trump being global dictator is as much of a fantasy as Joe Rogan running the CIA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:29 PM
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In life we do this all the time, there’s people you can trust and can’t trust, because one inherently has more value to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:24 PM
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Everybody’s value is quantifiable, not specifically women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:59 PM
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I’m not saying that, I’m talking about women who clearly lack discernment and have a consistent terrible history with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:37 AM
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Well if you don’t match the description, why get offended? Lmao I could’ve been in a corner crying all the insults I got for this post, some of y’all gotta grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:21 AM
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I’m actually pro choice. No I’m saying if women had no other option, they would be way more careful which is all I’m saying in a nutshell. The equivalency you are trying to make with technology is terrible, I already made a better example. Performance enhancing drugs are technology used to avoid accountability, so much so results are negated when discovered a participant used them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:19 AM
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Yes they are lmao. Plenty of people meet douchebags and instantly go “wow that persons a douche” why? Because people who suck tend to be pretty bad at hiding it especially long term. Also I think it’s ridiculous to say you MUST date a bunch of douchebags to know you shouldn’t date a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:13 AM
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Lol once again a man cannot have sex without a women’s consent. I’m not saying a man who doesn’t rubber up is innocent, I’m saying a woman should be accountable enough to not allow a man to have unprotected sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:11 AM
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Thank you very much, yes that is what I’m saying. However, to add further context I think it becomes questionable if every partner you complain is deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:06 AM
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You can’t have sex without a woman’s consent, but I agree I’m not here trying to pander to men, men should rubber up if trying to avoid pregnancy. Can we at least agree in the scenario I explained the woman lacks accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:48 AM
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Lol giving birth to the unwanted child, that is the unwanted punishment. If I took steroids and got my abs etched in, instead of focusing on diet and exercising consistently naturally I would be using technology to avoid accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:31 AM
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That’s all I’m saying and the response to pointing that out (look at this post for examples) is overwhelmingly to deny that even exists and just throw insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:26 AM
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Yeah but that is ridiculous, nobody would say “believe all men” considering anything because you shouldn’t. As much as society makes it this way sorry women don’t have a monopoly on SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:25 AM
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Having unprotected sex with a man you don’t want to father your child is intentionally getting pregnant to get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:23 AM
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What you’re saying is like someone running to get HIV because there is better medicine for it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:20 AM
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🫠lmao the mental gymnastics, I’m sorry but using technology to avoid accountability is the antithesis of responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:19 AM
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So are you saying I’m right and a large portion of the population of women lack accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:18 AM
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Lol an unplanned pregnancy is not responsible. If abortions didn’t exist, what would you do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:16 AM
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No getting an abortion is you failing to be accountable till it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:12 AM
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<image> Idk it seems like you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:12 AM
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No thank you for the amazing response. Honestly, what you touched on in terms of awareness is something I would love to question you more about. I’m not neurodivergent but I’ve always assumed that most the population lack general self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:09 AM
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No we don’t, lmao women don’t just choose attractive men who suck, it’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:52 PM
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Why would anybody wanna do that, yes she’s worth less too, that’s stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:46 PM
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Lol I want to debate not argue, and if you concede that you agree with my point, you lost the debate. I’m trying to tell her to delete the comment to save face but whatever. Have the failure remain on the thread, better for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:45 PM
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Lmaoooooo 🤦🏽‍♂️. A good grandson, a good coworker, and a good member of a church but his chivalry is performative. Also, let’s just stop pretending women are only dealing with attractive guys that suck, that’s just not true, plenty of women are with ugly men that suck by choice. The whole Chad thing is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:44 PM
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Having sex with a partner before knowing how unfit they are is pretty much validating my point. I’m not saying women lose value by dealing with decent men and having several relationships, I’m saying women lose value when consistently dealing with men of terrible character. It is a complete lack of accountability to date 5 shitty men and not look at yourself crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:40 PM
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No men don’t get the accountability finger pointed at them because men don’t do the selecting on a large scale. I’m all with criticizing men who choose poor women, however, if most men were good partners and women still didn’t desire them the issue is unresolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:36 PM
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If you gonna claim to not agree with my point you should at least considering deleting the comment that says you literally agree with my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:34 PM
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The asterisk is unnecessary considering you just said you agree with my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:30 PM
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Two things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:24 PM
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I’m just saying if most men were great partners, it still takes women desiring them for that to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:20 PM
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I agree I’m not saying that, what I was saying is just a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:48 PM
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I 1000% agree when it comes to the introspection, this was probably the best response I got on Reddit period. In a long story short type of way, even if 90% of men were great partners if women didn’t desire them it wouldn’t make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:43 PM
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Lmao if there is no good man than there is no bad man either, you are literally opting to group all men together because you refuse to identify inherently good qualities. And yes you did compare a woman to a dog lol whether you want to admit or not, it’s better to delete the comment then. That in itself was a sign of pure cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:37 PM
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What? Yes men who date abusers lack accountability. This is overwhelming not a trend that men are okay with though. Men get called lames for dating female abusers, not sympathized with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:32 PM
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That’s just not true, plenty of women are dating unfit partners that aren’t attractive. Also I have no problem with women not being with men they find unattractive but the women who they attractiveness constitutes good is just laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:30 PM
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Wow, this was an amazing response and I agree with a lot of what you said to be completely honest as it pertains to people, men and women. I’m not mad if women rather maintain their sense of self esteem and be alone, however, I don’t believe 85% of men are between benevolent sexism or incel ideology. Probably still a good percentage of men but not 85% and I’m not encouraging women to entertain those men quite the opposite. I just want women to be more introspective as a whole as I believe that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:27 PM
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The law favors women in divorce/family court/SA/DV. I literally pointed to the SSS that excludes women. Can we just stop arguing this point, yes women have more rights currently. Literally you not even reading my post, I said used and abused for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:16 PM
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Yes lmaoo hugging is a part of bonding, you are trolling bro. Go be average somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:07 PM
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Most women who are unhappy with modern dating probably would be a better way to put it. Modern women to me is just the mainstream representation of women. You know I struggle with the counter-productive argument because I do see some merit in it, however, I think we live in a society that is overwhelmingly soft on people. This in particular I feel like causes the large lack of accountability, we baby people too much. A younger woman I could see being more gentle with but a grown adult, not reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:06 PM
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Yes what you said lol women have to be accountable to their own choices. Which means you cannot blame men for your failure to select a decent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:01 PM
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Nah I take accountability, even if it does, she wasn’t in disguise I just was looking past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:00 PM
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Yes I’m less desirable than an abuser lmao if that’s the W you guys think it is, that’s hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:57 PM
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Lmao because they are, nobody would be high fiving if you didn’t open your legs for a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:54 PM
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Lmao I just hate that women refuse to identify good qualities in men, it’s just laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:53 PM
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I don’t necessarily disagree with this, I do think however society is generally trending in a way that absolves women of any personal accountability. Take the whole “believe all women” thing as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:48 PM
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I mean would you go to work if you didn’t get paid? I’m not saying men should be awful or that those men shouldn’t be held accountable, but women not rewarding them would be a big help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:48 PM
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Yes lmaooooo you trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:46 PM
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Yes, everybody including most men can’t stand that women choose these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:45 PM
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I mean tbh, I 100% agree with you lmao. The funny thing is I actually don’t do the whole gentlemen thing, I too just act natural, while as a younger man I did experience that issue. My thing is this trend in women has become increasingly noticeable in me trying to find a partner. Nearly all of them have horror stories and can’t see at all how wild it is to hear how much shit they were willing to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:44 PM
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And the fact that you are ignoring the obvious in that men don’t report because nobody cares about male assaults is just tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:40 PM
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I just said I struggle with dating lmao. 🤦🏽‍♂️. It’s funny how many people in this sub can’t even be accountable to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:37 PM
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Lmao I love when people just go so far to prove my point, but thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:36 PM
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No I do care, that’s why I want women to start being accountable and recognize it’s their responsibility to not be with abusers. The personal insults are tired btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:35 PM
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Yes they’re abusers who overcompensate with kindness in the beginning an slowly introduce it, but even to me that is a red flag. Any man or woman doing way too much in the beginning is a red flag. The types of woman you mentioned being in a vulnerable state is also something to put in account, but should make them even more questionable of the men around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:33 PM
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I’m well aware of that, but every human is responsible for their own mental health. If somebody is a serial killer we don’t let them slide because of their inability to control their mental functions, I’m sorry but not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:31 PM
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I never said it was women’s fault, that’s you, I just said it shows men are objectively more expendable in society. I once again never said it was women’s fault, that’s you, I just said it’s the position most women are in when it comes to dating. For the third time I never said it was women’s fault, I agree with the supply vs demand argument nor do I think that will change or have intentions to change it. The bar on the floor would equate to the men you choose to entertain not being adequate, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:29 PM
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That is by far the dumbest argument ever made for anything ever, the idea that you need to experience first hand to know something is just not true in any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:19 PM
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You don’t need a woman’s perspective to know they are ignoring signs. What women can’t see a man ignoring bad signs in women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:15 PM
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I’m here to engage but the root of the issue is exactly what your answer is, a good man can be defined. A lot of women are choosing men that are good for them and end up abused, single mothers, and depressed. Why can’t we address that a good man is a definable thing to an extent and women are accountable for demanding certain qualities. Shit even Lauryn Hill said respect is just a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:13 PM
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She gets punished regardless because of her lack of accountability. Every relationship involves 2 people therefore it’s impossible for anybody to be in a relationship and not be somewhat responsible for it’s failure. It is largely becoming the case that women rather blame their partner then see how they misjudged the men and allowed themselves to be blindsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:10 PM
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Lol one question, what do you define a good man as then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:07 PM
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But that is the truth, we all have a responsibility to are selves, it’s not pleasant to hear, I’m not saying that. But there’s plenty of women who walk away immediately at the sign of any abuse, you staying is partly your fault and this is someone who has been a survivor of abuse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:06 PM
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Of course not but I do believe pos hide behind a facade that is easily detectable if you don’t look through rosy colored glasses and take time. I have men who abuse women in my family and all the women who get with them are aware of what they’re getting into on some level. People are not their words, they are their actions, if someone is a pos it only takes sniffing awhile to smell them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:03 PM
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Well I do so you can’t throw me in that group. Men as a whole gotta stop thinking being a good man is being subservient to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:59 PM
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So what’s the issue with women who constantly get in relationships with abusive men? They should just not date them right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:57 PM
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Lol women don’t have to consistently choose to date abusive partners, one time is fair we all make mistakes, a pattern shows you like abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:55 PM
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Lmaoooo thank youuu.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:54 PM
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Lol this makes me so weak because I can easily get a date actually, I’m an attractive man who is doing quite decently financially, the truth is I struggle finding a women that has qualities worth long term investment, accountability being the main one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:49 PM
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No I’m saying it’s becoming an epidemic that women don’t want to take accountability for their decisions. Hell look how big of a topic abortion has becoming, a lot of women say my body my choice, but can’t be that bother when choosing the men entering said body.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:47 PM
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I don’t lmao, but I’ve noticed that has completely reduced my options because this type of behavior has become an epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:45 PM
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No I’m just answering the question posed to me. You have to go on a date to get to know somebody, so that’s why this trend is an issue for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:44 PM
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Lol 🤦🏽‍♂️ if women want to be abused by all means, whatever. I’m not trying to help women at this point, I just think it’s funny women are here defending women’s choice to choose abusive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:43 PM
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Their is a fine line between abused and being an enabler. I have the utmost most sympathy for victims, but allowing a cycle of abuse consistently is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:39 PM
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Then how are you average? Lol that’s still a value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:38 PM
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So are men and you don’t care about that lmao. Women are definitely a protected class, stop it. Nobody says save the men and children lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:37 PM
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It’s becoming an overwhelming epidemic that women are refusing accountability. I have had several dates and listen to women’s prior experience and lack of accountability makes them immediately undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:34 PM
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Alright, if you think a women having sex with and having children with men that don’t respect them doesn’t devalue them, idk what does lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:33 PM
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Lmao that is not what women are told on mass let’s be honest, women on mass are told it’s the men’s fault alone and that their only issue is raising standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:32 PM
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You are purposely missing the critical point, I’m not saying that neither are my friends, women definitely devalue if they have sex with a multitude of people who have no respect for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:30 PM
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Yes, every dude they sleep with that doesn’t respect them. That’s what I’m saying and it definitely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:27 PM
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I have respect for women who respect themselves, that’s a fact. I have plenty of female friends who say the exact same thing I say about women who struggle with dating. The problem is a larger amount of women want you to have respect for them without them respecting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:25 PM
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Lmao we all know what accountability is. I can give you a perfect example, most advice given to men struggling with dating is to get more money, exercise, work on social skills, a myriad of things in order to improve and attract a woman. Woman’s advice is just raise your standards for the next guy. There is a huge gap in the accountability men and women have to take to get a partner and if the relationship fails. Also, I’m not disagreeing with any of that I have pretty female friends who have pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:23 PM
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Women who consistently are with terrible partners is what I mean. A woman who has a baby daddy, but then looks for a good husband after the fact. The women that responds with disrespect to good treatment. Women who will constantly ignore the most obvious signs until they no longer can be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:15 PM
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See and this is the failure of accountability, also I said used and abused, there’s nothing wrong with women who are in healthy relationships and they falter. I’m 100% talking about the epidemic of women who claim good men don’t exist because they consistently choose bad men. It’s funny because I actually used to mistreat women and guess what? My success rate was way higher, but you right I prefer being a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:10 PM
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No I’m talking about the responsibility in choosing the right men to date, women have complaints about modern dating but most of them I argue are self inflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:15 PM
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Lol “magically watch someone”, one I mentioned marriage if you get married to someone and you couldn’t pick up on the fact they weren’t a good partner, that says more about you then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:40 PM
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Lmao no it’s not, there are several cases of men paying child support for kids that aren’t even there’s because women put them on the birth certificate knowing they were not the father. Explain that away with me just having women hatred. You denying the reality is just showing me you hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:39 PM
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Also, people are not that unpredictable, if you watch someone’s character it’s very easy to detect what they can and can’t be capable of, women just like to be willfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:21 PM
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Actually most people do, in fact the law favors women to men in nearly every aspect, marriage/DV/SA/child support lmao, women have every advantage and aren’t even expected to pursue but then can’t make a good decision to save their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:20 PM
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If that was the case women wouldn’t be getting in a marriage to then find out her partner wasn’t the man she thought he was lmao if women really valued important qualities in men, then why do women have any dissatisfaction with modern dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:17 PM
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Women want choices without responsibility, I’m all for women making choices, but at this point in time they have the advantage, what do you have to complain about that isn’t your own fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:16 PM
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Men only lie because it works, if women weren’t shallow and didn’t put so much stock in a persona (which 9/10 should be a sign to you anyways), men would just be themselves. However, women don’t reward men for being themselves on average, women reward men who run a game on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:46 PM
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I don’t even believe in the Chad red pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:37 AM
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No this is where you are wrong, I agree 100% men should increase their standards and not settle for less, but both need to happen as if men do that and women still don’t select them it really doesn’t fix the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:59 AM
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But that’s not the case though it’s a false equivalency, even if men close their legs and only date women worthy of dating, if none of those women want to date them they’re just deprived of any attention from the opposite sex. You see what I’m saying, whether women choose badly or not they still aren’t deprived of attention and options. Men’s choices have no affect on the market overall other than what you are seeing and that’s men leaving dating in droves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:36 PM
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On an individual level I could 100% agree with you, a jackass man and a selfish woman are no better than one another, however at a larger context this is just a plain old false equivalency. The jackass man that gets women that doesn’t deserve too is because of women’s choices, not because of men. Those men literally don’t exist if women don’t choose them in the first place, therefore women are creating the issue they complain about. I’m not asking women to take some responsibility for the benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:19 PM
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On an individual level I could 100% agree with you, a jackass man and a selfish woman are no better than one another, however at a larger context this is just a plain old false equivalency. The jackass man that gets women that doesn’t deserve too is because of women’s choices, not because of men. Those men literally don’t exist if women don’t choose them in the first place, therefore women are creating the issue they complain about. I’m not asking women to take some responsibility for the benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:32 PM
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Rewarding moral men is a net benefit to men and women, if women only reward moral men with sex/relationships, all women’s dating issues vanish and a larger amount of men will be in relationships or at least have a realistic goal to aim to in terms of attracting a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:59 PM
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I agree with everything but your last assertion and it is this point that is the gist of my issues with women. If you can acknowledge women don’t select men or have sex with men based on morality, then why would any man desire to be moral regarding women. If that is not a requirement to access of women then why does it even matter if a man is a good partner or works on himself, we consistently see unfit partners get access. The man who is immoral gets access to relationships and sex, but then yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:45 PM
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I agree to an extent, I think cold approaching for either gender is a clear red flag and I wouldn’t encourage it but definitely take a first shot if you are interested and know the quality of the person. Most decent men are too concerned about offending women or being accused of being creepy by women to cold approach tbh, so it’s one easy way for women to filter out. When it comes to vetting this is where I think women seriously underestimate the power they have overall in the dating market. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:03 PM
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Honestly I agree with everything you just said, my only response is that women should be compassionate to men’s struggle, consider approaching more and be aware and smart with your advantage. Most women fail to realize the correlation between their complete failure to vet correctly and the selection of men. Bad male partners exist in a large part due to women consistently choosing these partners first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:07 PM
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First off, it’s very unlikely any woman or man is gonna lose their life even in a bad relationship, that is just being dramatic. Also, we all know laws in family court, divorce, and even domestic violence highly favor on the side of women. Two of women’s major complaints you listed, men lying and manipulating to get sex and boyfriends/husbands not pulling the weight is incredibly hard for the average man to be sympathetic too. Women are not expected to pursue, so while it is a complaint I unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:39 PM
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If that was the case, women wouldn’t nearly complain as much in their choice of men or modern dating. So clearly whatever criteria most women are using to pick long term partners isn’t very good. That’s not necessarily true, I would argue most men prioritize long term potential more than women as marriage/family court laws are not in our favor. Men serve to lose way more than women if a relationship goes wrong at this point in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:15 PM
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Woman could decide to prioritize quality in partners versus attraction and select based on somebody’s potential as a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:55 PM
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One I don’t believe in any chadopoly narrative and you dismissing the obvious disparity between men and women actively participating in the dating market is just delusional at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:20 PM
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Men are choosing who to initiate with. Selection isn’t limited to women’s responses to this. Yes it is lmao 🤣 if that was the case men would just be dating 24/7 with any woman possible according to your logic because way more men initiate then are selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:17 PM
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Goals doesn’t equate to physical intensity. You want to know why people take steroids in competitive sports because they know higher physically intensity is important and a draw to the sport. Most of the best players in the NBA aren’t short because by nature of the game, height is important. I don’t care about whatever political high horse you are on, biologically men on average are stronger and have higher bone density than women and it does effect viewership. And yes whether you know it or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:12 PM
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That infantilization is a double standard that in the case of dating makes it much easier for women. You yourself are talking about dealing with the struggle of being constantly approached. Imagine never being approached, I imagine at least one or two people who have approached you in your life you enjoyed. Well those guys did because they were expected too and if they didn’t it’s likely nobody would approach them. Most men don’t approach women period for fear you will associate us with those ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:01 PM
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Thank you exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:48 PM
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Nobody is saying that, most men are just saying consider factors other than pure attraction. Most people not just women write others off simply on physical attraction, men by pure virtue of being the pursuers experience rejection on a level in comparable to most women. Also, men just don’t require so much out of their women as women do their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:39 PM
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You admitting the man is the pursuer is just validating my argument lol. LMAOO IN GAME THEORY PURSUING IS A MORE DIFFICULT STRATEGY. 🤦🏽‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:31 PM
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Thank you, that’s the point I’m trying to get across though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:28 PM
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🤦🏽‍♂️ yes it does, people rather watch sensationalized media of any kind, therefore a higher intensity sport on average is more entertaining that a lower intensity sport. I’m sorry but biologically men have higher peaks in terms of physical performance than women. If that wasn’t the determining factor in viewership we’d all be watching high level chess masters because of the mental capacity. Also, it’s actually more sexist to believe opposite because then you believe people as a whole like men m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:27 PM
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It’s wild the lengths you guys are going to be in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:13 PM
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Well I just think women truly don’t understand how much power they have in dating, if women only accepted respect as a minimum they’d get that from more men, women’s choices inform men’s decisions on how to get chosen. Why you usually hear most players or bad boys etc. have a generic heartbreak story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:07 PM
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The highest consumer of women are a minority of men, it’s called “supply and demand”, so are all women dating the best men possible? If so you gotta change that Blue to a Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:03 PM
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Women shouldn’t be grateful, it’s just a mute point, why should you hate/blame men for a biological reality. I’m not saying someone being sexually aggressive that’s different. The thing is most men do police malicious guys, women are attracted to these men regardless. I think it’s infantilizing women to act like all these men are so much smarter and can easily trick and manipulate women like marionettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:01 PM
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Woman just biologically are not able to exert the same amount of energy into their sport physically. I’m not here to argue the obvious biological differences between men and women. The requirements for a male football player is not equivalent to the requirements for a female football player they are often much steeper. Also, yes we’ve identified that and porn very much resembles the dating market in which yes, the curve is harder for men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:55 PM
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The thing is it is biologically just the truth, men want relationships/sex more. That’s not something being pushed it’s the biological reality, now the issue for woman is discerning bad actors between genuine people. I think most women don’t approach because fair of rejection but then be surprised when the one who does approach them had malicious intent. Most men don’t just cold approach women lmao the men who consistently approach women are the ones women usually fall for and most men don’t ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:51 PM
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Having more fans or being more successful has nothing to do with the physical capabilities it takes to enter the porn industry or football for men in comparison to women. Men on average have to have way more partners as well to be in the industry, male sports are intrinsically more physical then their female counterparts. That is a double standard and yes the world works in double standards lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:45 PM
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I agree it’s life but it’s a double standard that exists and I think given the double standard, women should value the fact they don’t have the expectation to pursue. I also think woman pursuing the men they actually wanted instead of waiting for a man (usually one who consistently approaches woman) to approach them and then gauge character after the fact. I also believe on some level men and society as a whole expects way less from women then they do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:38 PM
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Of course but therefore it is harder for men to date or in the sex industry just like for a woman to make millions in football is harder than men. Two things can be true at once this is just one of many many double standards in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:34 PM
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You and I both know people are held responsible for other people’s behaviors and choices when it’s something else, if you replace liar with racist nobody is gonna understand a woman dating a racist and being like I didn’t make him hate black people. Hell look at the law, conspiracy is literally getting arrested for being in conspiracy with the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:32 PM
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What if there was a way that guaranteed at least the most people possible would be in genuinely fulfilling relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:29 PM
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Lmao idk what porn you watch, but on average their is a male orgasm on camera, yes some are faked, but it’s incomparable to the amount of female orgasms faked due of the pure nature of money shots being standard. I agree men and women should higher their standards, but most women are not dating most men regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:27 PM
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Lmaoo 🤦🏽‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:23 PM
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Women are not these mystical creatures who only pick the best partners possible so the point you make is mute. If women are dating a minority of men and still dating abusers, that says more about woman’s selection than it does about the state of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:22 PM
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I agree with you, but I think this raises the responsibility of women when it comes to selection. Imagine saying on one side, women have more options because men freely give them, then saying the only guys I get are liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:19 PM
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But the reality is most women are not dating most men, women’s pool is incredibly selective, therefore I think the compromise can be made but only if women select better overall. If women selected better men there would be better men on average because that’s supply and demand. People mention supply and demand all day long when it’s women vs men but not supply and demand when it’s between healthy vs unhealthy qualities and how it relates to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:17 PM
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Lol I have female friends in happy relationships and guess what, they found men that don’t want to use them as just blowup dolls, one of them particularly because advice I gave them. The truth is if women are not dating most men but blame most men, they’re saying more about their own choices. Women’s main complaint is their failure to vet, men’s main complaint is not being let in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:13 PM
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I don’t believe that, I’m saying women had to fight those systemic issues by identifying them because if women didn’t say it was unfair they were unable to vote, nobody was just gonna give women the right to vote. That’s why I’m addressing this issue, the only way to fix the dating market is addressing the issues in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:09 PM
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Lmaoooo see look you are even doing it right now. A woman has to look average at minimum to be in porn, we’ve all seen pornstars without make up, with a body or without a body, the expectations for a female performer is to show up. Men have to physically deliver a hard dick (at lengths that are statistical anomaly’s) lmao 🤣 for hours, even lift their counterparts and orgasm (4real can’t fake it) on call. I 100% agree men put way less expectations on their women then women put on their men. That’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:06 PM
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You just moved the whole goal post lmao. You said sex with a stranger to casual sex because we all know sex with a stranger is a literal fetish based around it being un calculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:59 PM
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How many times can woman play the fool? Look at these comments, if a man makes one complaint it’s he has to overcome, stop being whiny, get a gym routine, get more $, work on their personality etc. but a woman can’t be asked to vet a man. Everybody men included can get bamboozled once maybe twice but over and over, is a cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:57 PM
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I don’t disagree with your statement actually, I just think to most men the men you are describing we can easily point out, it tends to only be women who fall for these types. To me it’s embarrassing when a women says he treated me like shit but was tall. I think the same is probably true for women pointing out bad women to men, but women on average are just not statistically dating most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:51 PM
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I think you have to attribute more responsibility to women because women are overwhelmingly the ones participating. Same for porn hence that example. The amount of female actresses in comparison to male talent is staggering, so if woman are so against porn effecting men maybe they should stop supporting women joining it. That analogy coincides consistently with woman being against men when the amount of females in the dating market highly exceed the amount of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:47 PM
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Nah but I have numerous female friends who can’t get out of their own way and numerous that are in happy relationships because they understand shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:43 PM
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This says it all lol. Sex with a stranger isn’t a calculated risk, it in fact is the antithesis of calculated lmao. In all seriousness, if they are girlfriends you had then none of them worked out which goes to show they weren’t the most calculated risk for either you or them. Also, I’m sure smoking crack is fun but you wouldn’t hesitate to call that a bad decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:42 PM
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Lol if you date anybody of course it’s your fault for picking poorly, who is telling women not to date abusive men, in fact most women are choosing to date abusive men against what other men are telling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:32 PM
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They do all the time though lmao most men would be happy if women stopped dating those men, but the reality is most women are dating a minority of men and still finding ones that abuse them, are emotionally unavailable, cheat, lie and live on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:27 PM
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What’s more difficult choosing between eating an entire pizza or going to buy the pizza in the first place? Also it doesn’t take rocket science to tell you that eating a whole pizza in one sitting is an objectively bad decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:25 PM
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You said you ignore your biological reaction because you are of freewill and make choices, which I agree, but then why would any woman choose a bad partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:23 PM
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At the end of the day you’re still agreeing with my statement though. I’m not arguing that it isn’t life, just that that is the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:20 PM
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Thank you for just making accurate points. Idk why women can’t cope with the fact that just statistically speaking men are at a larger disadvantage when it comes to modern dating. It literally isn’t even hard to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:19 PM
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Women aren’t the arbiters of truth lmao. If what I’m saying has no truth, then why do women complain about being constantly approached? If what I’m saying has no truth why statistically are more women in relationships than men? If what I’m saying has no truth why do male pornstars get paid less for a harder job (lol pause) than their female counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:16 PM
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Yes it does. My point is men have a harder dating curve due to expectations of men being higher than are female counterparts (on average) and porn is a perfect example. Men are not any more valued in the dating market than they are in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:12 PM
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So women’s suffrage shouldn’t have happened because men shouldn’t pity woman because they have it “harder” or something? Identifying we lived in a society that put the okay on systematic sexism is what allowed us to solve the issue or I guess you think women should’ve just overcame.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:10 PM
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Lol I know you didn’t just say RP says don’t argue with people and have an open mind. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:05 PM
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Thank you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:03 PM
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This is all fair until the question becomes why don’t women who have the overwhelmingly choice make bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:03 PM
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Thank you. I wish more women would accept that truth and then we could discuss why women like bad partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:59 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:57 PM
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You came out swinging only to further validate my point by saying “Men can absolutely be in the driver/power seat if they know how to play the game”. Read my whole post “Most women are not expected to have any game.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:57 PM
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What you’re saying is just not true, women don’t struggle to get into relationships more than men, statistics show more women are dating than men by a good amount. If you’re talking about quality of relationship, that’s hard for anybody but as I said the onus falls more on women because women are overwhelming selecting the partners who get picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:54 PM
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Lmao but she was taking a more advanced math class than you so thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:50 PM
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I’m not posting to use myself as a self insert I’m just identifying a harsh truth. If you agree then you agree and the point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:49 PM
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Is it harder living in America today than it is being a citizen in Iraq? Is it harder to be a crossing guard or walk a tight rope? Plenty of times in life we are able to objectively compare and contrast levels of difficulty thank you very much. Also, I find it hilarious whenever anybody says work on yourself, not because I don’t think it’s decent advice, but because we all know people who ain’t shit and are in relationships. If getting a partner only took being a decent person, a lot of motherfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:48 PM
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Lol no I think you are out of your mind by assuming all women’s judgement is so sound they all pick the highest quality of men, that is just a pure falsehood. Plenty of men have been rejected or cheated on for men who were a completely worse package.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:43 PM
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The Red Pill is moronic to me because it makes the assumption that all women are choosing some top tier man, that is complete bullshit. Many women are with poor ugly and weak bums, being 6 feet 6 pack and 6 figures does not guarantee you a woman. In fact the men who usually get the most women are the ones who are constantly jumping through hoops for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:41 PM
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This is what gets me so mad at some of my female friends when they complain about issues with dating. You don’t even have to pursue anybody (on average) but you don’t want to take the time to filter out disingenuous people. I promise you if you do that it’d be so much easier to find someone who shares your values as well as improve the dating market as a whole because it is shaped by the men women pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:38 PM
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Yes and I’m pointing out how the customer base of porn is very representative of the dating market in America. Therefore if we look at the two it is obvious to see men are facing disproportionate treatment at least on average. Of course their are outliers and exceptions that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:35 PM
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I agree, I think a lot of men are checking out because along with the dating curve just on average being harder for men, the quality of women you are likely to get is just not worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:29 PM
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Lol you know what you’re doing right now is just evasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:26 PM
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I agree entirely, but I think the onus to choose correctly falls much more on women because they don’t have as much of an expectation to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:25 PM
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To your porn point, yes but economically it’s undeniably more viable for women then men also entering the industry at all is a lot easier for women then men. Especially given the fact most male performers given the gap in pay end up doing heterosexual and homosexual content. I agree entirely with your following point, however I think this shows the onus to pick correctly falls mostly on woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:23 PM
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So is lifting 100 pounds as hard as lifting 20 pounds or is it just the work that needs to be put in? Yes or no question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:18 PM
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That’s bull, not every woman is choosing a rich and muscular man, plenty of woman are running to a broke emasculated man as if he’s god.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:17 PM
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Biologically you are right, but wtf are you saying we should ignore basic human biology. We all know men have a higher desire for sex and that is the one of the main reason we are the pursuers, however, plenty of women want sex too and prefer it in the confines of a relationship. We all know a lot of men who want more than just sex without relationships and a lot of men who only want sex dealing with many women. The men who deal with many women tend to approach on a near nonstop basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:16 PM
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A nurse and someone put on the front lines are both still in the army, but one job is objectively harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:08 PM
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Also, while I agree with men valuing sex more I wouldn’t say men have a lot lower standards because let’s be real, most women involved in dating/casual sex are not engaging with the best partners. If standards only equates to looks then I could agree but if we mean pure quality of a person, both men and women are in the gutter right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:07 PM
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Nah just a statement. I see a lot in this sub that women seem to think men and women have the same dating curve and I just can’t help but think that is so far from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:04 PM
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In what ways would you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:03 PM
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I just made a post about this in the debate section. I don’t think most women recognize the curve for dating is just more difficult for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:02 PM
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Imagine if not only did you have to choose correctly but on top of that had to pursue hundreds of people to even get choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:44 PM
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Well I’m responding to the luck part of the conversation as put forth by OP, my argument is because most of your job is selection, you don’t have to be as lucky but more so just a good decision maker. Women know eventually they will get approached, as OP stated the opportunity to interact with a woman to where you can even get a date/relationship is way less likely for the average man. Therefore society should be much harsher on the women who choose wrong because that’s all you really have to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:43 PM
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And it’s your only job to weed out liars from honest people. Lauryn Hill said it best, respect is just a minimum, you have no one to blame but yourself for entering a relationship with someone you don’t even know respects you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:22 PM
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Tbh taking time to get to know someone b4 you enter a relationship should be a bare minimum, idk why women act like that’s the most difficult thing. Lmao maybe find out if the dude is a serial killer b4 you enter a relationship with him idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:55 PM
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No I work everyday in an extremely dense population almost 10 hours on the regular lmao 🤣 most people outside are not glaringly good examples of maturity but I wish I was wherever you are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:17 AM
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For starters, people who are 16-20 no matter how mature usually don’t have the resources to own property and if your 30 and can own property the only way you can (without someone else’s support) was being mature beforehand so you could set yourself up to purchase a property. Either way owning a property in itself, being in a long term relationship, whatever doesn’t indicate maturity, it is how you operate in circumstances that makes you mature, not the circumstances themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:55 AM
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😂 y’all are just so hopeless. I need to enter this utopia y’all are in where the majority of adults are mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:46 AM
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Because it doesn’t lmao. So all these people you know magically hit what 30 and said wowwww now I’m gonna hold a job, be in a long term relationship, and own property or maybe just maybe they were already mature before that. Wouldn’t that be a surprise lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:46 PM
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Of course life experience is what births maturity, not age itself, cause someone can go through life with pretty much non-existing experiences. Thank you for agreeing with me lmao. Idk how you guys agree with me and still trying to find a way to debate my point. Also, no I’m not assuming that because that’s just blatantly not true, just becomes society throws more responsibilities at you doesn’t make you more responsible. Plenty of people with drivers licenses drunk driving and killing people. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:34 PM
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That was never my argument lol this shifting of the goal post you guys are doing is amazing to me, my argument once again is age has nothing to do with maturity and it doesn’t, most people I meet regardless of age aren’t mature, very few people I meet are actually mature individuals. If you know right and wrong then you have the capability to be mature and still most people resist any level of responsibility till it’s forced upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:33 PM
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No lmao that’s you trying to bait me into you switching my argument so you can win which I refuse, I would argue most people in general are not mature regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:23 PM
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So you live in this reality we’re most people are mature by your standards, since most the world is not the youth or?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:18 PM
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No not at all, what you say is “life experience” I say is society refusing to coddle you any longer. I don’t equate people who do the bare minimum as an adult to be a “mature” person. Therefore I don’t believe aging has anything to do with maturity and we all know people who are older who aren’t mature and people who are younger who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:15 PM
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Lol I’m not 30 and never said I was, also I never said I relate to 20 year olds, you’d have to be bottom of the barrel low IQ to not be able to read simple Reddit comments, the point is you agree with me lol you agree with me so much you’re ignoring the obvious yes or no because you like I know there are people old as hell that aren’t mature and by no means is age a marker for maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:13 PM
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One, I never said that, that’s y’all trying to find a weak spot in my argument which just shows how tight my argument is. If you agree that their are some 20 year olds more mature than some 50 year olds, you agree with me any debate further is just trying to take a shot at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:06 PM
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Literally I have no idea how this is at all a counter to anything I said. More than anything you are proving my point because you are stating aging puts most people into a forced position to mature at some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:41 PM
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Literally not what I’m saying, yet again, you people can’t read. What about the people who are 50+ and aren’t mature, what about them buddy? They just didn’t age enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:38 PM
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I literally didn’t say that at all. I said maturity is being accountable for your wrong and right decisions, which it is, you need to read better. Also, if you know the difference between right and wrong, you’re making a choice to not be mature, which most people do at all ages. I only pointed out people at 16 and 18 knowing the difference between right and wrong to show the possibility for maturity can come at a young age which you aren’t even disagreeing with. What you keep describing is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:52 PM
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That is complete utter bullshit. Aging has absolutely I repeat absolutely nothing to do with maturity. Life experience is just a substitute for what I previously mentioned, no longer being able to be willfully ignorant. The reality is at 16 or 18 for the most part you should be capable of discerning between right and wrong, if not, developmentally something is seriously wrong. Maturity is being accountable for the right and wrong decisions you make. The truth is most people don’t mature until li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:35 PM
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There is no age marker at all for maturity, you either mature or you don’t, they’re teenagers more mature than some adults and vice versa, maturity comes with an combination of responsibility and accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:01 PM
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You are only saying that because you equate age to maturity. The reality is if it takes you till your late 30’s to learn something you should’ve been known, you didn’t “grow” you just no longer can afford the consequences that come with being willfully ignorant. A lot of older women that still act like a 20 year old but then want to pretend because they’ve aged that is cause for them to raise standards when yes as OP said you’re not worthless but definitely worth less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:50 PM
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I can’t stand how most the woman on this sub seem to be completely delusional to the fact that a lot of women choose partners terribly even though they have (on average) way more options and really only have to select correctly. OP is 100% right, being misogynistic has absolutely no impact on your dating prospects and why is that? Because most women don’t factor in your personality till their already in a relationship with you. Nobody cares about being a good partner if you can’t even get in a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:41 PM
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Let’s be honest, the majority of relationships are like this, so when you ask who would want a relationship like that, apparently the majority of people in relationships lol being a misogynist or just a plain asshole is not a deterrent for most women, if that was the case the whole bad boy archetype wouldn’t even exist because women wouldn’t be attracted to them, now you’re discussing healthy vs unhealthy but the reality is most relationships are not healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:28 PM
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You are basically saying every man is so much smarter than every woman that no woman can detect when somebody is an obvious liar. Idk why a lot of women are taking this route, you are pretty much shitting on women because you think my goal was to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:23 PM
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One I don’t even believe in the “Chad” bullshit plenty of women dating ugly short men with small dicks who are broke. If women are more selective which I agree with by the way, then why are they still having issue in modern dating, maybe just possibly they are selecting poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:21 PM
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I don’t, that was never my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:00 AM
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Humans aren’t that complex, people are capable of change, but only accountable people change, most people tend to go in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:58 AM
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That is not even my argument, my argument is women claim to be unhappy with modern dating yet in general are dating a small subset of men, therefore they are choosing the wrong men and should be held the most accountable for the dating market as a woman’s main role is selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:08 AM
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Idk I think it’s very unlikely someone never has any problem with alcohol then all of sudden becomes a raging alcoholic, but I can’t speak to every exact situation. In general though looking both ways before you cross the street is a good idea, cross referencing a surgeon before a procedure is a good idea, looking at the movie times before going to the movie theatre is a good idea, but apparently dating is the mystical thing where there is no good way to approach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:36 PM
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🤦🏽‍♂️ cause the group is called Purple Pill Debate to discuss topics just like this, especially in the debate section.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:31 PM
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On a societal level you could incentivize people to stay in committed relationships and be monogamous. How ever this is not my argument nor do I desire to control how other people date, I just think when it comes to dating in general, there are objectively strategies that work for long term success and strategies that don’t. Women’s main role in dating is selection, if women are unhappy with the men they’re selecting, maybe there is some accountability on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:30 PM
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No lol I just think they shouldn’t get with those people in the first place like where’s this confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:30 PM
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It’s not nearly as grey as you’re trying to make it out to be. I’m not saying women can’t be deceived at all, but overwhelmingly blaming all of women’s bad experience up to them being completely blindsided is infantilizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:20 PM
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So you’re telling me there were absolutely no warning signs or any issues with this dude in all of those 8 years prior that would allude to the fact this may occur. The man completely changed after not getting the son. One even if this example is entirely true, its way less common you’d have a situation like this where somebody’s personality does a complete 180 versus just ignoring obvious red flags in the beginning. You’re telling me all women who got with a bad dude is because all those dudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:43 PM
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How am I infantilizing women when I say they are smart enough to decipher a person of good character versus a person of bad character. So what you’re telling me is you in no way can tell a good person from a bad person? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:38 PM
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I wouldn’t say social media is any better than the dating apps, but that’s just me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:36 PM
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Lol hey if women are okay with women suffering then I guess you’re right, let them suffer lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:19 PM
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I mean it’s pretty obvious to tell by somebody’s character whether they will be a good father and or mother, there are objective qualities you can observe that will tell you someone is good or bad lol. So anytime a woman selects a bad man it’s because she’s too stupid to tell a good man from a bad one. That’s really all your argument boils down to, infantilizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:18 PM
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Of course they do and you are actually incorrect, at least in America most romantic partners do meet online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:16 PM
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Lol no, I think there’s a good amount of women who are attracted to overall meaningless qualities and end up unfulfilled because they choose men for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:15 PM
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I never said single mothers are the root of all evil lol I said the obvious, if someone is a single mother minus widows clearly they picked the wrong partner. Do women ever pick the wrong partner lol apparently even if they divorce them or end up single moms still was the right choice. My argument is women deal with a small subset of men and still are unhappy with their decisions, single mothers being on the rise is another example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:13 PM
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An honest man and a liar can act the same because by definition the liar will be lying while the honest man will be honest. You can objectively observe people’s actions to determine their character, people know somebody’s a liar because they catch them lying. There is so many other times we can agree certain behavior is objectively bad and as a population we try to hold others accountable, misogyny and racism being perfect examples. But for some reason we can’t find any objectively unhealthy beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:11 PM
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Men and women are equally guilty of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:59 AM
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I’m not a insert here so I don’t know insert here is such a tired point of view. As you clearly state observations can be made, as well, it’s common knowledge at this point that both genders are unhappy with the state of modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:33 AM
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If men are more likely to cheat all this means is women are more likely to share partners, literally. If most women are dating a subset of men then by definition some of them will be dating the same men lol like how are you missing that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:31 AM
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I mostly agree with you but I do think behavior can be objectively analyzed to fall either in a healthy or unhealthy category. You can incentivize unhealthy behavior but that still has a net negative affect on the people who follow that incentive. I do think a lot of the answer does lie in identifying and incentivizing objectively healthy behavior, that’s why I can’t stand when people fail to hold others accountable, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:49 AM
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Woman’s anatomy being chalked up as the only legitimate reason women have more STD’s then men and that being used to DEBUNK me is laughable at best. Of course a factor (while not the only) in contributing more STD’s is being more promiscuous and engaging with more promiscuous partners like c’mon. STD’s have been on the rise and since women hold the keys to consent and sex are we really gonna blame men for a small subset having most the sex with many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:42 AM
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Yes it is, victims can still have accountability, some people lie well and some people just choose to believe liars. What I’m saying is women should be better at vetting (which most claim they are) then they wouldn’t be dating somebody terrible to find that out way after the fact. You are infantilizing woman by acting like woman are too stupid to notice a man running game on them. I don’t believe in social proof, I believe in someone’s words whether man or woman equaling their actions. If somebo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:35 AM
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Bullshit, the ones you thought were good clearly weren’t which means you weren’t paying nearly enough attention. Everybody reveals their character at some point, most people tend not to believe what is evident at the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:23 AM
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The thing is we can change things by addressing it for what it is and holding both parties accountable. The reality is both men and women are struggling in modern dating, so it’d be better off we address the root issues causing their struggles, but to do this you must be critical of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:21 AM
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You’re not even posing any counter argument, you are just being critical of my argument, so there is no causation at all between woman’s shifting dating norms and the health of the overall dating market, like are we serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:19 AM
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What does it take to admit their is a population of women that exist that make bad decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:13 AM
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I literally asked a question which means asking for clarification which is the opposite of trying to put words in your mouth. The reason I asked the question was because you refuse to hold women accountable at all for becoming single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:12 AM
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This is all over the place, one the only mistake in my post I believe I made is saying top 20% because it implies I believe in some Chad assertion, I however don’t. I only use the 20% to say women are dealing with a subset of men however I definitely believe in variety in that subset, I don’t think every 6ft 6+inch 6 figure man is getting a date, plenty of women dating short ugly small dicked men. I don’t know what libido has anything to do with attracting people, you can be horny all day and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:10 AM
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So there is no woman that selects the wrong men to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:54 PM
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I only referenced that study not to claim attractiveness is the most important factor but that women are choosing a small subset of men. I agree with you entirely somebody’s looks has 0 to do with their good qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:53 PM
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How would a mother be a single mother other than becoming a widow if not for selecting the wrong father for her child?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:30 PM
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I’m saying there is a universal compromise men and women can come too when it comes to qualities that indicate a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:29 PM
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So women should date men they find attractive that ultimately leave them unfulfilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:19 PM
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Then why for anything else? You’re saying you don’t believe in any standards at all? I’m not saying a strict rule we all follow but at least a damn compromise. Why have any testing for anything? Why look both ways before crossing the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 10:06 PM
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Women already have, very few women believe in collectively shaming single motherhood, which a main factor is women selecting the wrong father.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:51 PM
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I don’t believe in red pill neither do I believe in men and women not having agency over their own decisions. I don’t believe in hypergamy, every bad man a woman chooses is not some super attractive, big dicked, super wealthy man lol that’s hilarious many women are with ugly small dicked poor men, it’s just whatever variety exists in the subset it stills a subset. Most women don’t interact with most men and a woman’s main role in dating is selection, that’s why they have more responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:48 PM
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Well I completely disagree with your premise. I don’t believe in the Chad talking point, women are picking the men they are picking, I don’t think the only specific barometer is the objective attractiveness of said person, I know many women who are with completely unattractive men in a conventional sense. My argument is mainly supported by the fact women themselves are unhappy with dating currently. If that wasn’t the case you’d be entirely right but if woman are only choosing constant amazing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:44 PM
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I’m not attempting to cherry pick, attacking that part of the argument is fair, but you still aren’t addressing the totality of my argument, so in essence you are cherry picking as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:40 PM
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Well could you not fairly deduce that if women are unhappy with modern dating in which they clearly have more power in selection that maybe they are searching with the wrong criteria. Not saying men are much better in having a mainly visual criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:27 PM
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No not really, I think women at large are just encouraged to believe their is no objective qualities and actions that prove someone is a better long term partner. Either that or the objective qualities and actions they are told prove someone is better partner are just incorrect. Even beyond women, I think in general we live in a sick society that is so afraid to support proactive decision making and valuing people of good character and we all are responsible for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:16 PM
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Nobody is obligated to do anything, but having bad standards at large is just counterproductive. We should all be able to agree there is a wrong way to do something and a right way. Nobody willfully gets surgery done on them by a surgeon who has a 1% success rate. And whoever was in charge of giving surgeon degrees would be looked at twice if all their surgeons couldn’t do their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:58 PM
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That is also 100% true and I agree with it. My only argument is that the situation currently, women have more power, so it’d be easier for them to reserve the situation. Men allowed it, but the men who allowed it are the small subset benefiting from women only deciding to give them attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:55 PM
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Yes that is smart and you are clearly not an example of the type of woman I’m explaining, however not acknowledging many woman would even refuse to date a man they are friends with first is just having a blind eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:53 PM
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I disagree with this argument only on the pure fact most women are not entertaining most men. Women at large are entertaining a small subset of men that they continuously can’t see they are choosing. You point out men who shame sluts but actually desire them, well why can’t we shame women who shame terrible men but actually desire them especially since’s women main role in dating is selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:52 PM
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Just as women will attest too, you have to get to know somebody, the only way I can get to know somebody is if they consent in allowing me to talk to them romantically. Men are humans and humans in general want social interaction. Men on average have way fewer options because women are weeding out most men, which is ironic because most women are not happy with the state of dating, meaning they are weeding out the wrong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:47 PM
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People don’t exist in a vacuum, even you and I are influenced by external factors, people (mainly women in dating due to them holding power) rewarding a negative subset of people, destroys overall morale about relationships etc. People refusing to come to an agreement on decent standards in both women and men are just exacerbating the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:42 PM
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Like I said, women hold they key to consent, which means the only men getting any action are selectively decided by women, in what way do men have control over a woman’s consent? You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:39 PM
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If you think standards are horrible then you agree with my argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:33 PM
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I don’t think you are being disingenuous and I appreciate your response, however I just feel like that approach in general is disingenuous. We have enough information especially now given all the technological advancements to know women currently hold the reigns when it comes to power in modern relationship dynamics, just as well we can point to history and say historically men controlled the dating market. Now if men had the power I would say they are the “main issue” I do think both sexes have…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:30 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:23 PM
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I’m not arguing that, I truly think my only mistake in my post was saying top 20% I don’t believe in any Chad red pill talking point, I only mentioned that to show it is not all men and a small subset with variety being a given in that subset. I think the notion all women are just after some 6 feet 6+ inches 6 figures guy is ridiculous, I know plenty of woman dating short bums with small dicks, my point is the men women are choosing they are unhappy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:22 PM
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These men are playing it up and that should be a prime indicator to a woman he isn’t actually genuine. But sadly a lot of woman do want a man to play up his attraction to her. This is an additional point to my statement yet not my original argument, and you yourself have clearly demonstrated that there is a practical way to determine a bad actor versus someone of genuine character. If you don’t give them what they want without assessing for character, no man would be able to get over on you. I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:19 PM
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Lol I like how I mentioned one blanket statement, and you had to make a bunch of other statements up because you know you agree with the original blanket statement. In the context I put it, it’d be seen as ridiculous to not agree with the statement shit smells. Also you fucked up because you implied I said shit smells bad , which I specifically didn’t, I said shit smells and every example you made up refers to the fact shit smells.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:08 PM
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20% means it’s a rather small subset of men especially since most dating apps work based on location services. Women are also just statistically more likely to “share” a partner. A lot of people men and women are unhappy with how dating currently is and this is represented by a lot more fact now than just sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:05 PM
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Should we not at least try lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:02 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:59 PM
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That’s not really a hard blanket statement to make lol. That’s like saying you can’t say shit smells because nuance is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:57 PM
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Oh I believe men share a blame as well, you’ve read me wrong lol I would 100% attest that most men share these bad tendencies with their female counterparts. Men cheat more often with women who either allow them to cheat or don’t know enough about the man to know he is already in a committed relationship, further validating my argument. Lesbian marriages consist of only women and therefore are a problem you can’t attest to men even if you try too. Even if I made the mistake of conflating the sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:55 PM
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Well you said divorce isn’t about choosing the wrong partner, well then what is it about to you? Perfectly compatible people are just getting divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:45 PM
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I think both men and women have inflated standards when it comes to the looks department. Many women don’t realize behind their attraction to men is a lot of surgery and steroids and many men don’t realize what’s behind their attraction to women is a lot of surgery and make up. Fuck personality, can we all just universally agree on dealing with someone of good character? My only argument is women are only dealing with a small number of men percentage wise, you just can’t argue that fact, and thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:43 PM
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They aren’t forced, I’ll agree with pressured but forced would infantilize women and I have too much respect for women I know who don’t fit this to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:37 PM
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The group is called “Purple Pill Debate” so that’s who I’m pointing it out to. Also, apparently you don’t even believe in a bad partner because people just find who they find attractive and that’s affective way to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:28 PM
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🫠 so what you’re saying is people get divorced in perfectly healthy and stable relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:26 PM
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How would you know if you aren’t dating them lmao mind you I wasn’t using my post as a self insert, I’ve had sex in the last year, I’m just talking in general terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:25 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:05 PM
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I agree but we can’t ignore a lot of women tend to select these men who don’t desire commitment or show any consideration for them, this isn’t particularly unique to women by the way, men tend to desire these same things in women, the difference being women have more power when it comes to selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:58 PM
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I agree perfection is futile but at least strive to a better ideal at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:51 PM
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I never said the problem, I said specifically “main issue” you yourself are pointing to the fact lesbian divorce rates are high because women tend to move too fast with their relationships. That admission in itself literally validated my entire argument. Also, yes men are to blame when they look past actual good qualities in a partner over just looks and they get stuck dealing with a terrible woman, that’s why you can’t think with your dick. I don’t want to take chances on anybody being a good p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:50 PM
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LMAOOOOO if divorce isn’t about choosing the wrong partner then what is it about? Like c’mon?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:42 PM
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Lol nobody is saying that like I don’t understand why so woman just want to fight so hard against pointing out the qualities that make someone a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:41 PM
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Well that would matter if the divorce rates weren’t about 40% percent, and the 40% percent predominately being initiated by women, who probably choose the wrong partner if they’re getting divorced wouldn’t you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:39 PM
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Well that’s why I brought up the lesbian divorce issue, that is something you just can’t attest to men, now I think interpreting my argument as women should be blamed for men being sexless is totally missing my point. My only argument is women aren’t dating the best men for them because they are choosing a small subset and listening to woman they are often unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:30 PM
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No it’s not, it’s very obviously pointing out that some levels of attraction are objectively bad/unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:26 PM
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Society incentivizes desires and normalizes behaviors, yes women and all people have free agency and with that agency comes accountability. I specifically in my post said I’m not trying to attack women because I’m not. To your point, I’m not trying to blame all women but you can’t ignore there is a growing population of women who refuse to take accountability in their bad choices in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:24 PM
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Yes it is, you said you are attracted to what you find attractive, well okay, what about people attracted to murders and rapists? Is that not objectively a bad thing to find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:16 PM
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Then what are you saying lol because if that’s the case at least some women are choosing the wrong partner, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:15 PM
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Like I said you are still just arguing there is no society. You are basically saying everything happens in a vacuum, and that’s a terrible argument. In that case you can’t blame anything on anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:14 PM
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You just said yourself the dating pool decreases because women are finding men they like, but fail to recognize most women are not happy in their relationships currently. So what you’re saying is every women right now is in a fulfilling relationship, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:13 PM
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So all women date the right man is what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:11 PM
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I feel like woman really don’t understand how much power they have over the average man, if all you desired was at least a decent standard universally, than immediately women’s pool would increase and more men would want to achieve decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:10 PM
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Teach women and men discipline and restrict nobody’s right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:08 PM
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No their are objectively bad standards to have lol we look at people weird if they attracted to a serial killer for a reason lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:08 PM
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Yes we agree lol but that’s a good amount of women, that’s literally all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:07 PM
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That’s not true at all, that’s actually exactly what I didn’t want to be interpreted as. Men have a responsibility as well it’s just at a lesser value because men hold less power sexually. Men definitely have a lot I could criticize them and will if you ask, but women as a whole could help the situation a lot by not dealing with certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:06 PM
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Civil rights and Suffrage is all a response to people not being explicitly considered in the Constitution and facing systemic hardships from external factors that were in others control. America is literally founded on being against taxation without representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:04 PM
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One is the desperate state of men’s integrity and men biologically are hardwired to accept sex more casually. Combine that with the fact that women hold the keys when it comes to sex and consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:02 PM
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I disagree only because that subset of men will always exist and is not a majority of men, also, women have more agency today than ever before and I don’t believe we should strip that from them. I just believe with great power insert Spider-Man quote here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:58 PM
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You still are saying something I’m not even arguing and completely missed my point. My point is simply this, most women aren’t dealing with most men, women are selective and therefore are picking a small subset of men that they’re dissatisfied with. Also, I’m not gonna infantilize women and pretend they don’t know the risk they run dealing with certain men. All women don’t fit this shoe, but a good amount definitely do and need to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:56 PM
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Top 20% was a mistake in my post only because I think it implies I mean some type of Chad archetype. I’m not saying that at all, I’m just saying the men that women choose to interact with is a small subset of men that they themselves admit dissatisfaction with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:52 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:48 PM
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No it’s not contradictory, it’s not women’s fault for being selective, I’m still in favor of women being selective actually but just for a different set of standards. Woman at large are mad at the men they are choosing to interact with, that means they are selecting poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:47 PM
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No that’s literally my entire argument lol dating pool decreases because women are finding men they like and those are clearly the wrong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:46 PM
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Individuals don’t exist in a vacuum, what you are arguing by saying that is literally society doesn’t exist. If a majority of a population are in poverty is that not proof the society is failing. Nobody is saying a woman should find every man attractive, that does sound annoying and exhausting. What I’m arguing is the subset woman are choosing from they themselves admit they’re not happy with. No other explanation to that than they are choosing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:44 PM
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So man or woman, if someone is attracted to a serial killer, that’s not weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:41 PM
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But that’s my whole point lol women are filtering out incorrectly at this point. If that wasn’t the case then women would have no complaints about modern dating, wouldn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:40 PM
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Nothing happens in a vacuum, people don’t make decisions without external influences, we need to stop pretending like this is a thing. Humans are social creatures, what you are basically arguing is society doesn’t exist. Society is a market we are all taped into, normal only exists because their are norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:38 PM
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I’m not actually saying that at all, I’m saying per most women’s complaints about men, currently they aren’t dating the men they actually want to date at least long term. If women were dating who they really wanted to be with then why are their so many complaints about modern dating from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:35 PM
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Let’s not infantilize women, they know the men they’re dealing with at large, I believe it truly is a short term reward vs long term reward, and most people in general aren’t disciplined enough for delayed gratification. However, woman just hold more responsibility because their man objective is selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:33 PM
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Well I think men need to have higher integrity and women need to value character before anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:31 PM
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I don’t believe in the whole Chad thing, I’ve seen plenty of women with ugly broke dudes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:30 PM
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Of course it takes two to tango, but women having as much of a choice in their own selection is a very recent phenomenon in human history, women nearly dominate the selection in modern dating. They are choosing a small subset of men as most men currently aren’t even participating in dating, and they are choosing wrong according to their own testaments. Women constantly say they “hate men” and these are the men they choose to interact with. Men hold responsibility as well, I think men need to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:28 PM
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I agree with you actually except for STDs, women die in dramatically higher numbers for 3 major STDs. My argument in a nutshell is women (in general) are in control of selection as it relates to dating, them choosing a small subset of men to date (not based on some Chad standard) and still being dissatisfied means they are choosing wrong. source
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:25 PM
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Not the case, social programs generally arise as a response to external factors that were in someone else’s control affecting a population.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:20 PM
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See my only issue with this argument is well could we at least define some decent standards to have. I think your standards might be perfectly reasonable, while somebody else’s completely vain and counterintuitive. That doesn’t apply only to women either but as I’ve stated women at large are in charge of selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:18 PM
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I agree but these gender’s (depending on location) having different social meanings and double standards attached to them. This being the case, men and women have different strategies that tend to be successful. Being sexually promiscuous doesn’t tend to benefit any gender long term, neither does modern dating failing. However a woman’s role (atleast in USA) is selection and a male’s role is to pursue on average, therefore the men who are successfully pursuing has to be blamed on women’s selecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:10 PM
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I honestly don’t disagree with you at all, but people’s personal problems are systemic issues, if that wasn’t the case there would be no social programs or funding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:59 PM
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Well what do you think? What is your explanation for a vast amount of woman being unhappy with the men they end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:57 PM
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Nothing happens in a vacuum, people are largely motivated by external factors, denying that is just denying reality. I’m not arguing they are being forced and that is why I am saying they have a large role in accountability, but they are definitely pressured on a cultural level to make bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:55 PM
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The only thing systemic about it is the incentives given to either party, I would argue 100% women are systemically incentivized to procreate with a bad subset of men, but individuals still have choice. I would argue also 100% that most men are desperate when it comes to sex and tend to behave in anyway necessary and therefore are influenced by the bad subset. Basically women are choosing from the wrong pool of men, but refusing to leave the pool therefore the pool is shrinking. I truly think if…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:52 PM
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It’s not, both men and women share responsibility in this crime, but women would just get a harsher charge, I’m not even arguing a much harsher charge, but harsher nonetheless. The reality is most women are unhappy with the subset of men they are choosing to date, yet fail to take accountability and say well why are we choosing this subset we are all dissatisfied with. Then at mass men especially younger are deciding to leave dating as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:40 PM
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But that is what’s happening, women are at large dating men they are unhappy with, that is a big part of the equation. The next part is the average man is opting out of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:37 PM
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I actually agree with you lol that’s my whole point, women are choosing to be with mediocre men at large. I by no means believe in the whole Chad narrative, I only believe purely off numbers the subset of men women are choosing they are dissatisfied with, which means they are choosing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:33 PM
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I’m not even trying to push that like I said this by no means was an attempt to insult or assault women, the reality is women have more control over the dating market by the pure fact you are not the pursuers. If women are having such a dissatisfied time with dating currently wouldn’t that point to the fact they are dating the wrong subset of men? Every dude isn’t getting a date and I’m not saying that every 6’2 6+ inches 6 figures guy is getting a date either, I think there is variety in the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:31 PM
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I agree with that and it obviously isn’t going too well per women’s dissatisfaction with the dating market currently. Also, not just older I think there is variety in the men women are choosing from it’s just not the men they are happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:24 PM
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The three STDs cause “substantial health losses” in the U.S., particularly from chlamydia, among women, the study found. There were major discrepancies in QALYs lost between men and women, regardless of age or type of infection, resulting in an outsized impact on women’s and reproductive health. Across the country in 2018, chlamydia had the largest impact (111,872 QALYs lost among women versus 1,541 among men), followed by gonorrhea (12,112 QALYs lost among women versus 989 among men) and tricho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:22 PM
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I mean both parties have blame, I wasn’t arguing women have the only blame, I think men have a fair share as well, I just think that women have more power/responsibility when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:07 PM
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See this is what I was trying to avoid, I by no means am some red piller who believes in this “Chad” bullshit, my only point is women on average have more options and therefore have to be held accountable for their choices. If you are not a promiscuous woman and have good morale I think you are always a valuable women. I think it’s evident however more and more women are being promiscuous and less and less men are participating in dating therefore the pool women are deciding to choose is clearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:04 PM
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You have to get in a relationship to even talk about relationship quality and my only point is that woman are 100% approached more and therefore more options to choose from yet fail to be accountable for the choices they are making. If woman themselves are saying “we hate men” that speaks to the fact they are only dealing with a terrible subset of men. Well what if the opposite was true, we all know men will do whatever it takes to get in a woman’s pants, so what if you had to meet a standard. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:57 PM
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So what role if any do woman play in the downfall of modern dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:50 PM
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Thank you and I do agree with a large majority of your statement and even can attribute blame to men here as their a several studies pointing to criminality as in a incentive to attract women. Let’s be honest, most men will do anything to get into a women’s pants and that isn’t helping the situation any, however, let’s not at like women refuse to acknowledge several obvious bad actors. I attribute this mainly to human nature as people in general tend to reach for short term results and it takes …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:49 PM
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I’m not talking about anything based off attractiveness or any set of red pill/chad talking points, I’m just talking about the obvious fact women have more options to choose from then their counterparts on average, as well it’s 100% common knowledge women get more matches on dating apps across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:44 PM
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I’m not talking about anything based off attractiveness or any set of red pill/chad talking points, I’m just talking about the obvious fact women have more options to choose from then their counterparts on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:43 PM
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This at least is the issue for me as a young man getting close to 30, I would love to age with a woman and start a family but you’d have to be clueless not to accept the MAJORITY of woman have PURPOSELY terrible taste in men in their earlier years. Even more so now because of this idea you can just wait till your in your 30s to start a family etc. I’ll say this as well the MAJORITY of men ARE NOT men anymore, it’s not about masculine whatever it’s just about self respect. I have standards but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:01 AM
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I only disagree with the part about men being already attractive, I would say I’m a conventionally attractive and financially stable man and I constantly struggle, while I’ve seen numerous men who aren’t attractive or have financial stability constantly have women in orbit, I think it’s more so men who care little about themselves tend to care little about their relationship and therefore require less from their women which allows those women to get away with not improving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:58 PM
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Agreed. I would say just don’t take rejection hard depending on how it is given, a polite “no thank you” is nothing to be mad about but 100% any rejection other than the things you already stated are definitely personal, if not an attack but a personal judgement on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:50 PM
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