ContraMans Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK Well you should learn to read first before you try to talk about statistics because that's clearly not what was said XD	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 04:00 AM
1	Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK Ever heard of survivorship bias? Well this is the opposite. Firstly the older you are the more difficult it is going to be to address mental health issues, especially when you already have a history of being in trouble with the law due to said issues. Many of these also had substance abuse issues which are very, very difficult to crack especially for men. This study doesn't prove that this therapy was ineffective because it doesn't show the metrics for how many older men WITH depression and su…	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 03:39 AM
1	Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK The only thing men are discouraged from doing is expressing their emotions beyond the socially acceptable spectrum, society doesn't care how men deal with their emotions in private and that's what Men do, we find hobbies and other personal endeavors to sink our energies into. Which is avoidance behavior and that kind of behavior is unhealthy. That isn't regulating emotions, that's just avoiding and distracting from them. Well, i didn't say that there's an easy fix. For ex: If you're miserable …	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 02:41 AM
0	Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK "No, this is just Feminist toxic masculinity Propaganda." Really? It's totally possible to be good at something you are never taught to do in the first place and in fact viciously discouraged from doing in the first place. Or do you just deny human emotions as a concept and believe men are just innately incapable of emotion? "No one gives a shit about Men's suffering. What's exactly the point in explaining or expressing something that no cares about?" Yes. That is why it is never explained and r…	/r/MensRights	27/02/24 01:07 AM
-1	Male suicide rate has jumped in the UK Actually most suicide victims, at least male ones, never talk about it. I mean they may talk about some problems but never too close to the core of it because they are taught that they cannot express their emotions, being forced into emotional stoicism for fear of being shamed by both men and women as 'effeminate', and thereby lack the emotional intelligence due to those 'muscles', to frame it metaphorically, have been left to atrophy. It's not that they don't want to talk about the real problem…	/r/MensRights	25/02/24 09:42 PM
-6	I feel like men are blamed their issues To be perfectly honest this sub is probably the last place you wanna put this. The demographic here, if you go through the comments, couldn't give a fuck less about men's mental health either. They are more concerned with be constantly angry at women and society at large without addressing their own malnourished emotions. I personally would recommend posting this to r/Healthygamergg. They are generally pretty sympathetic over there towards mental health issues regardless of gender and can offer …	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 11:53 AM
1	Men are giving up on dating and women are getting desperate Yeah I got the same response here and I was a lot more civil with this guy than you were. These people are not only actively misogynistic but in a round-a-about actually more misandrist than most rad feminists are.	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 10:32 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world Hehehe, what a curious deflection and a baseless accusation. Men are stripped of their ability to feel precisely because it makes them easier to control and subjugate into these roles. The same way black people were stripped of their humanity, as women were as well. It is no different here than it was there. We taught blacks to fear the whip, that is how we controlled them. We taught women to fear the men, that is how we controlled them. And we taught men to fear their emotions, that is how we c…	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 10:27 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world I'm not sure I understand what your point is, it seems to be conflicting a bit with you stating that feeling emotions is not the point of pro male advocacy while simultaneously pointing out that men are treated the way they are, accurately so, because they are perceived as not having empathy or emotion or that they should not feel emotion which thereby causes them to be treated this way. I'm not sure what the point of pro male advocacy is there by your definition because it seems to contradict i…	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 08:41 AM
1	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". When you label it a 'risk' to hire 'fertile women' I think the insinuation is fairly clear and poorly disguised. Feel free to comb through the comments literally underneath you to see remarks stating as much.	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 08:21 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world I'm not defining a group based on him. I'm just pointing out, if anything, that he's a bastardization of that group's ideal.	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 07:47 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world Maybe real, maybe not. Many times it's impossible to truly say from individual to individual. But what I can be certain of is that those beliefs espoused by him and others are most certainly real, even if not for those individuals personally. I was raised that way myself. I am currently in the process of breaking through all of that conditioning. It is difficult, exceptionally so. The most difficult thing I have ever gone through but I have help. Therapy, a good support network and above all hop…	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 07:44 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world Perhaps but I have seen far too many people drinking into that kind of kool-aid to dismiss that this is authentic as well. And it's not so much about men 'finding happiness' so much as it is about men being raised with the same degree of emotional tenderness, care and empathy which is often reserved only for girls. Which allows them to become more emotionally intelligent, better able to identify and reconcile their emotions and accept them rather than being condemned to rejecting them in their e…	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 02:51 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world Stupidity annoys me. Especially when it's used with such overwhelming confidence. It wasn't a threat moron. It's called hypocrisy. You can't be mad when men are blamed for being victims then turn around and blame women for being victims. That's. Hypocritical. Double standard. Meeting Misandry with Misogyny. Two wrongs don't make a right. Take your fucking pick moron. It's a fucking contradiction. Thus. My. Point. Stands. And you are actively reinforcing it by dismissing calling it wrong when som…	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 12:19 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world So much for caring about men's issues XD	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 12:04 AM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world "MRA's like you" You know... the MRA's that are bigots... you know... like the person I specifically fucking specified... you know... the person that suggested women are to blame for being victims of domestic violence. Context is king. Or is the "LIKE YOU" not specific enough? Or do I need to fucking submit and entire dossier on that specific person complete with social security number, home address and their favorite fucking animal?	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 12:00 AM
-1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world My 'gotcha' is me saying that it's not ok to blame victims of domestic violence for being victims of domestic violence... did you even read what I said? The commentor is blaming women for being victims of domestic violence. I said that is wrong, the same way it is wrong when men are blamed for being victims of domestic violence. You're saying you don't think it's ok to blame victims of domestic violence... but you're saying I'm still wrong for saying it's not ok to blame victims of domestic viol…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 11:53 PM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world Firstly... not a single one of these variables is necessary to entrap either sex into an abusive relationship. People who are abusers are very good at pulling at and manipulating the emotions of even people who are very emotionally intelligent with solid support networks. Regardless of how emotionally fit and nurtured you are you can always fall prey to an emotionally and physically abusive relationship because these are designed specifically to entrap people in a cycle of emotional gaslighting …	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 11:42 PM
1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world That's a facetious mischaracterization... but I'll bite. Let's see if you understand as much as you think you do about men's issues. And while I'm at it I'll throw in the bonus of showing why that exact argument you're making is not only incredibly valid... but the same logic that makes that point valid is the same one that shows why women are no more to blame for being victims of violence than men are when they are victims. I'm feeling generous today. Yes, it is absolutely true that men face en…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 11:42 PM
2	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world I guess my biggest problem with this, aside from being weird and obscure that I don't much understand what it's really saying on a larger scale, is that it is talking about 'evil' in a way that doesn't really line up. Evil is a term we use to describe the whole of a person based on acts we determine to be evil but that's not an accurate depiction of reality. Because reality is complicated, muddy and oftentimes difficult to understand. Good men are every bit as capable of evil as evil women are c…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 11:02 PM
-2	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world So you think it's ok to blame men for being victims of domestic violence? You're the ones making excuses for it, not me.	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 10:34 PM
-1	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world Openly advocating that victim's of domestic violence are to blame for being victims of domestic violence. Right... I'll remember this whenever conversation about how men are actually more often victims of domestic violence than their female counterparts are comes up and the MRA's like you come out to try to talk about how men are ignored and oppressed by society. Hell the implication doesn't stop there either. Anyone who's ever been cheated on by a partner, their fault. Lied to, their fault. Man…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 10:11 PM
-2	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". No, companies can handle that. There is absolutely no reason companies that can give their CEO's multi-million dollar raises while laying off thousands of workers to obtain those raises cannot take care of their own employees. By that token the government should also pay for sick leave, vacation, provide insurance and all instead of these companies having to do so. Hell let's have the government cover the costs of training for these companies too so they never lose money training people that tur…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 09:58 PM
1	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". For a subreddit all about 'supporting men' there sure seems to be a lot of argumentation here for why men should have to carry the full financial burden of the cost of living and child birth on their shoulders to protect corporations from taking a risk with women getting pregnant or otherwise having menstrual related health issues. I think this place might be mislabeled. This subreddit in a nutshell: Women should not be hired as much as men because they are risk! Also this subreddit when men n…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 07:54 PM
-9	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". What kind of backwards logic is that? You think because I think women being fired for being pregnant is wrong, which a whole world lesser than men being killed in war, that I must be ok with men dying in war? What kind of stupid juice are you sipping? This whole thing was about you dismissing that this happens to women and Blizzard was a clear example of you being wrong that it doesn't happen. Men get fired for stupid shit too they shouldn't be getting fired for but that doesn't make it ok when …	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 06:59 PM
7	How moral voluntary segregation of women works, even if everybody wants women to conquer the world What do you mean by that? Are you suggesting the women are at fault for choosing bad men? Or that they are knowingly doing so? I'm confused by this a bit.	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 06:46 PM
-16	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". So we should discriminate against everybody equally? Just strip everybody's rights away so we are all equal in the cult-I mean victim war right? Remember this sentence whenever you hear about a woman being hired, for being a woman, over a man that you are ok with this kind of discrimination. Also jumping to cover for fucking Blizzard of all companies... holy shit.	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 06:36 PM
-16	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". Ya know... this sounds awful close to the kinds of mental gymnastics used to justify Jim Crowe laws of why we had to limit all the rights of black people and pay them infinitely less, if at all, for labor. What you're openly advocating for is discriminating AGAINST women because they have girl parts. And you're not even helping men, in fact you're doing the exact opposite of that because under your ideal here MEN will have to pick up the fucking slack both in the workplace and as far as supporti…	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 05:33 PM
-27	Menopause warriors can sue you if they don't get what they "need". Oh yeah? Why don't you ask the women that worked for Blizzard bud.	/r/MensRights	23/02/24 05:22 PM
1	Am I less of a man for crying? Ohhh gotcha. That went right over my head. Yeah I definitely agree and that is, in and of itself, because of how we raise and view men as a society. They are supposed to the be strong, stoic providers and protectors. The ones that never need any help from anybody but instead are the ones that come to everyone else's aid instead. A concept that seems noble in theory but in practice is applied in an incredibly dehumanizing and destructive manner which is used not as a model for men to aspire to be…	/r/MensRights	06/02/24 05:54 AM
1	Am I less of a man for crying? Who's lying about that? The person I commented to was stating that you will definitely be judged for it, I agreed with that but merely stated that we should not let that be what decides whether to embrace ourselves and our emotions or not.	/r/MensRights	06/02/24 05:23 AM
1	Am I less of a man for crying? Not sure what you mean of who is lying about what.	/r/MensRights	06/02/24 04:36 AM
-2	Am I less of a man for crying? Unfortunately all this will accomplish is the furthered alienation of one’s self from their own emotional needs and troubles and having all these emotions being bottled up for fear of public reprisal, of which is very real and prominent issue, is responsible for much of the core issues that society faces at the hands of men in the first place. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy of alienation and objectification of men’s emotional state because it is entirely destructive to repress your emotions and…	/r/MensRights	05/02/24 11:58 PM
0	Incels - myth vs reality As a man... I would pose that much of this is a misdiagnosis and some of this is downright facetious. Pretending that much of incel culture is somehow not 'misogynistic' is utterly absurd. In fact that is the primary mechanism which drives much of how incels are told they should act by the 'Alpha Male' figures within them. They use their discontentment with their sex life as a means of validation for those men that they might then exploit that very same thing to take advantage of them, primarily…	/r/MensRights	05/02/24 11:47 PM