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In this case specifically, because the fraud was in his name, despite the company being in both their names.. He was the one who pretended to have an architecture licence he didn't actually have. She was sentenced as an accessory to the fraud because she was aware of it, co-owner of the company and didn't report it.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 01:29 PM
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"jack of all trades, master of none, still better than a master of one" is the full saying, just FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:19 PM

here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:16 PM

Out of 1000 rape cases only 25 serve time, and of those 25 most serve less than 2 years. And it's one of the crimes that gets a lot of recidivism. Far more rapists are going free than serving time, and the ones serving time are back to cause more crime quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:41 PM
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😂😂😂😂 I'm a bi woman. I figured that out when I was 14. I also figured out that it made much, much more sense to approach people I was interested in, based on my preferences, than pick from people who are basing the approaching on their preference, not min. In my experience, the vast majority of men quite like being approached. The ones who feel "emasculated" would never have kept my interest for longer than a 5min conversation anyway, so it's a good way to weed those out too. Like I get it if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:57 AM
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So the problem is that women staying single means they won't have kids? I'm not single but I'm not having kids. A woman being single or not doesn't necessarily indicate that information. And single women who really want kids have options to make that happen. Women could raise kids together platonically. There's a lot of options before total societal collapse that doesn't need to involve women in romantic relationships they don't want to be in. This means that none of us will have the pension we …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:01 PM
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The point about autism is that it amplifies interests which means there's a biological component to interests it even amplified yours you must admit not many women care about trains and motorbikes but your biological makeup amplified it for you making you more an outlier in those interests so that cannot be entirely indoctrination. Autism doesn't "amplify interests". Lol. It does come with specific special interests. And you cant develop interests as a child, allistic or autistic if you aren't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 10:30 AM
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Because even in tribes separate from modern society women take up the same roles. You mean patriarchal tribes? What about the existing matrileaneal ones? It is far too overwhelming and persistent in both time and varieties of cultures for it to be indoctrination. This would make sense, if most of the world wasn't indoctrinated by one of the three abrahamic religions or patriarchal structures. Also being a nurse is a free choice, as is a teacher as is child care or charity work. Women choose to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:38 AM
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Are you conditioned to be overwhelmingly nurses, teachers, therapists and carers and contributors to charity? Yes. Such overwhelming differences between men and women isn't "conditioning" at that point, its an innate component that a lot of women want to care for others and provide to their community some manner especially on a social level. Based on what do you claim it is nature and not indoctrination? Men prefer a more mechanical provision to society, building/fixing etc. Hence why men domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:33 AM
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For both men and women, yes. All DV is under reported. And I agree it's too high, and that it's not far off from the 35%. The 61% for bi women is also terrible. But it's not more than straight couples or straight passing couples. nor is it as high as was firstly represented.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:04 PM
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The survey also found that bisexual women (61.1 percent) report a higher prevalence of rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner compared to both lesbian (43.8 percent) and heterosexual women (35 percent). Of the bisexual women who experienced IPV, approximately 90 percent reported having only male perpetrators, while two -thirds of lesbians reported having only female perpetrators of IPV. 2/3rds of 43% is around 28.6% of intimate partner violence. Compared to hetero women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:21 PM
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No, I was correcting grossly misrepresented data as a bi woman. And it's not that IPV violence is 61%. It's that 61% of bi women have experienced it at least once. Those aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:56 PM

Women have been fine with polygamy ; women have been fine with a guy have a harem if he was a king or an emperor. In the context of a king or emperor, women were rarely asked if they "were okay with it". It was usually do what he wanted, or get locked up or killed in most places. That's not being okay with things. That's survival. The dad's couldn't really refuse either due to the power disbalance between a king/emperor and subject. I grew up in Egypt. Islamic polygyny is allowed for the men. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:00 PM

I think they dont understand biology or how humans are classified. Humans are mammals. Only 5% of mammals are monogamous (which means they lifelong pair bond, which means if the mate dies, they don't mate again) and of those 5% it's not always both genders that are monogamous. The female of the species usually isn't. (meaning if her mate dies, she will mate and reproduce with another) Humans at best, long term pair bond, albeit usually short term. We are also classed as promiscuous animals, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:47 PM
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No, the man should understand that he should find a balance between study and personal life, that being in a relationship doesn't mean he should ignore studying, that just because he studies doesn't mean he should ignore his personal life. This. If someone doesn't develop the skills for a healthy balance between social/personal life and college prioritizing in college, why would one expect they'd be able to or have the skills once they're actually working and has even less time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:25 PM
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The CDC has stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners.' [...] 'In contrast, 35% of heterosexual women reported having been victim of intimate partner violence.' found the study "Of the bisexual women who experienced IPV, approximately 90 percent reported having only male perpetrators, while two -thirds of lesbians reported having only female perpetrators of IPV." so 1/3 was still male violence even in lesbian relationships, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:14 AM
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Women are actually 3x less likely to leave if their spouse is sick compared to women whose spouses are healthy. (not a comparison with men, but a comparison between women with healthy and unhealthy spouses and likelihood of leaving , just to be very clear.) I think its because we're conditioned to be caregivers, whether we want to or not, and abandoning someone when they need care feels far, far worse than leaving a relationship where the spouse is physically healthy. Because we feel responsible…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:20 PM
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Men who don't see the value of having female friendships, don't see the value in women as individual human beings, the value of our personhood. & honestly, they shouldn't be in any kind of a relationship with a woman. If the only thing a man wants from a woman is sex, he should get a fleshlight or hire a sex worker for those 5 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:16 PM
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Please speak for yourself. I have my own plans for my future, and I neither want nor would ever allow my partners to "lead" me. I don't enjoy being a "helper", and any plans for a mutual future would need to be discussed and agreed to by all parties, or they won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:49 AM
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If that value is increased, then women naturally want to submit. I've heard this line before. It's utter bullshit. No. We don't. I can honestly say I can't imagine a man or woman I would want to submit to. Could literally be a demigod come on earth and I'd not want to submit. It's never been in my nature. It will never be in my nature. Another person, man or woman, no matter how amazing, does not change who I am. And if it was in most women's nature, it wouldn't have been neccessary to try to fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:45 AM

A romantically inexperienced virgin is not going to have the neccessary relationship skills or bedroom skills for a happy and healthy relationship without a lot of effort to educate on the experienced partner's side. It not necessarily a red flag, but it's also not an appealing prospect to anyone who doesn't like the mentor role in their relationships. (source-dated 2 men who were adult virgins who had never been in relationships. Both were a disaster). Not to mention the higher likelihood of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:35 AM
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Men receive about 30% attention Women receive about 100% of that attention Men receive engaging conversations (reciprocation) about the same. This is a factor in why women have stronger connections, maybe we should just call it 'opportunity to talk to others'. This is a problem in meeting people, sure. Though I disagree with your numbers. But it's completely ignoring what it takes to nurture and grow and maintain a relationship with someone, even of a platonic level. The actual emotional labour …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:05 PM
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Minimum cover charges. Many clubs do that around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:34 AM
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"Lick" already exists, that already exists, and a few clubs with "women only" nights, and they do well. I wish we had one in my country. I'd dress up in my skimpiest outfit, and then dance my ass off without worrying about being groped or hit on. Sounds like an awesome evening. lick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:34 AM
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Men in YOUR life? Your as being friends with you, a woman? Men in my life, I live with 3 adult men (not related), observe their friendships and hear their discord calls. I'm also friends with their friends and they're as open with them as they are with me. That's in the culture. There are really close men, but they are outliers. Even if you yourself, personally will try it out, you'll have almost nobody, who's willing to me closely opened to another guy. Just because you haven't managed to build…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:10 AM
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I think I'd be more like the men in my social circle than the men on this subreddit, personally. And they agree with me. They also have healthy, deep, intimate, friendships with both men and women. Wonder if there's a connection? (joke-I think it's literally direct causation)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:45 PM
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Men invest their emotional labor. As much as it is socially acceptable. There are much harder social barriers for male friendship. No man alone can lift social barriers. You don't have the experience, but do you really think that lonely men killing themselves and "male loneliness epidemic" is just because they couldn't think of "go make friends"? No, it seems to be how men are conditioned into having friendships, interest based and bonding primarily through vasopressin, not oxytocin (according t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:30 PM
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How would my opinion be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:41 PM
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😂 If we're counting fictional I know a few more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:41 PM
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I know a 40 year old grandpa. I wouldn't consider that old.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:32 PM
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Did you mean opinion*? I mean men having different options makes sense too, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:27 PM
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Yep. My grandma always told me "never share bank accounts, always have your own income, divorce is better than an unhappy marriage, and marriage is a possibility, not a necessity" And while the world is pretty shit due to late stage capitalism and a whole bunch of other issues, it's still better for me than it would have been at any point in the last 2000 years, if not longer. I have options, I have choices and I'm quite happy with the ones I've made so far. But even if I wasn't, at least they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:59 PM
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Women don't commit suicide for loneliness because they generally have more friends and social support Because women tend to invest emotional labour into maintaining their friendships and their social support. You can't move on from a breakup if no other woman is interested in you Moving on from a breakup has nothing to do with dating again, except maybe that you're ready to do so. But you should be able to process your emotions and thoughts about the breakup without having someone else intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:14 PM
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I think people want to forget about the prevalence of black widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:45 PM
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Because the men tended to be the source of it, and if a woman spoke out,she was the one punished for speaking and not him for doing. Or for wanting what it "wasn't her place to want" .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:37 PM
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Where did I use the word "abusive"? Something doesn't have to be abuse to be not good enough or not desirable for someone. And while the argument can be made that neglect is abuse, outside of children it isn't really seen as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:34 PM
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For which part exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:02 PM
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Or him. The amount of men in their 30s-50s who used to die of "heartattacks" was pretty high before no fault divorce. Aqua tofana might be the best known, but it was always an abused woman's option of escape historically. Whether she drinks it or the husband does, depended on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:09 PM
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Because this is the reality for a lot, if not most of SAHMs. Every single one I know, including my mother, was taken for granted and underappreciated. I was around 4 when I said "I'd rather be the husband and have a wife, coz dad gets to come home and watch TV, and mom never stops doing things all day". Dad was mad, but he never figured shit out, even with a literal kid pointing it out. Mom gave him another 20 years before she divorced him. He was very shocked that mom left, despite her telling …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:07 PM
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So my question to women is this : are you happy with being kinda forced to work but having freedom to marry if you want to. Yes, absolutely. I have more freedom needing to work than I ever would needing to marry. And more power and choice over how my life will work. It's much easier to quit a bad job (or one that becomes bad) than divorce a bad partner (or one who becomes bad) . I personally don't want marriage or kids, and if I was forced to marry, I wouldn't get a say in either matter. And bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:53 PM
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How often certain chores need to be done depends on the number of people in the house, pets, and individual needs. (the reason I wash my pillowcase so often for eg, is because I have really sebsistive skin) I live in a 4 person (all adults, 1 woman, 3 men,we all work) household with 5 cats, 4 of which are long haired. State your gender and how often you do the following: Woman Dishes - daily, I like walking into a clean kitchen in the morning, everything gets put away and the counters wiped down…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:22 AM
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that the kind of relationship that kept women happy for centuries was "evil patriarchy Do you people talk to your grandmother's? Older women in general? Have you read the many personal journals we have that women wrote as recent as the 20s or 40s or 50s? Just ordinary women's journals, not anyone fancy. Women weren't "happy" in those relationships. But the choice was a man or starvation. So they chose the man. Now we can feed ourselves and have other options to deal with starvation. Now, the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:56 AM
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I tried discussing it with some people I know, but it was mentioned that most women would probably not go out with him because they would feel like a predator. Heyo, autistic woman here, with an autistic bf. This is because a lot of allistics don't actually know what autism is or have an outdated view of it. They think you can only be autistic with comorbid intellectual disabilities and yes dating someone with a below baseline IQ would be predatory. They just don't understand that autism can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:22 PM
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A lot of women get over-confident and don't realise most men can basically twist them into a pretzel at will, even the small skinny ones that don't look like they could. And many men without any training think they can take on a woman who has been trained. And again, I'm 5'11 and built like an Amazon and have extra testosterone. I've been training with boys/men all my life, and while I have only once started a fight, it doesn't mean it's the only time I've been in one Now don't get me wrong, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:08 PM
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If I engage in violence I'm taking out the knee and ankle joints, personally. Most people hold their balance horribly and it doesn't take a lot of force to pop out a joint and ir wouldn't fall under the "excessive force" laws and it makes it so I or whoever was attacked can get away. It's a much less risky form of engagement, they can and do disengage just as easily as they engage and they almost always get away with I can honestly say in my 30 years I have maybe seen a woman behave that way onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:17 AM
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I never said platonic male friends. I have many wonderful men in my life. I specifically meant misogynistic/incel men. Sorry if that wasnt clear enough. The men who refuse platonic friendship are generally those men who have subscribed to antisocial ideology online. They should arrive shortly to explain how useless women are if they aren’t providing romance or sex. Yep, I see no point in befriending those type of men for women. Not only are they unsafe, they lack the emotional maturity and intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:29 PM
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I think you completely misunderstood my comment. Have you ever had a real friendship? With anyone? Coz you seem confused about the concept. Friendship benefits humans as we are social animals. But if you befriend the wrong person, that can of course, harm you because you don't have a real friend. Women and men need to vet the people in their life. For women, a musigynistic man is not a good choice for a friend or a partner. And what are these "benefits from males" you're talking about exactly? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:23 PM
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Chihauhas are also constantly picked up (which most small dogs dislike) and their warning signs ignored because they're perceived as small and weak and non-dangerous. They aren't usually pissy little shits if their humans know what they're doing. I think it's that (most) women resort to physical violence as the absolute last resort when everything else has been exhausted, and for men it's not necessarily that far down the list of solutions. And this is as a 5'11 woman who has been doing MA since…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:13 PM
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Encourage them to cultivate and develop a social circle which includes platonic female friends. Why would women want to be around those men, even in a platonic capacity? And isn't that putting the onus of the societal emotional labour on women again?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:06 PM
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It's not good enough, either. Dogshit might be better than horseshit, but it's all still shit. Why would you consent to a relationship thay wasn't what you wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:28 PM
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But you see it as a bullet. And don't see why women would find it absolutely unacceptable. I can't speak for womankind but for me it would never be a "bullet" I have to take because: a) being single is preferable to settling for a relationship dynamic you dont want and would be miserable for you (for me that's everything except polyamory, for most women it's going to be monogamy) (b) I'm already in the exact types of relationships I want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:39 PM
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Would you agree to the inverse? Being the SAHD and your wife being sexually non-exclusive but you having to remain so? That sounds like a good and fair relationship to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:08 PM
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But dildoes don't have other kinds of height.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:06 PM
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But if as a man you can't get what you want by being honest, then lying makes sense. "If your principles get in the way of getting a date, ignore them" "it's okay to be unethical if it's to get what you want" OF course, women are angry about men lying because it makes their work harder. Or because lying is wrong? And lying to get something you otherwise wouldn't have is manipulative? And those are red flags in a potential friend, let alone partner? Also if something is a dealbreaker, it's gonna …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:03 PM
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But in your scenario I'd have to be monogamous and he'd be in an open relationship. That's not a "sweet deal" to me, because monogamy is a dealbreaker. End of. But that also means my partners get to be polyamorous too. Also an open relationship (just sex) is not polyamory (multiple committed romantic relationships) or my type of ENM. I wouldn't date someone who wanted an open relationship and not a polyamorous one. There's a lot of subsets of ethical nonmonagamy and not all are compatible with e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:39 PM
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But doesn't want to be sexually exclusive himself? Nah either you're practicing ethical non monogamy where you both have the same freedoms , or it's inherently unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:30 PM
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You can cure cancer and global warming and still no one is obligated to date you. Being good at your job doesn't make you a good partner. And double standards do not a good partner make. And why can't she scratch that same itch? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:16 AM
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I'm polyamorous. Monogamy is a dealbreaker for me. My partners can have other romantic relationships and so can I. In fact, I live with both my longterm partners in my home. He is the top of the top in terms of SMV/RMV percentile. The Chadliest Chad. A once in a lifetime opportunity. He is willing to provide for you unconditionally and let you be a SAHM without a care in the world. All of this sounds like the opposite of anything I would want though. Never gonna share bank accounts, never gonna …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:15 AM
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I think it's also that they misunderstand the advice at least partially. Being lonely is far more connected to social isolation and not having real community than the lack of romantic partner. (having only surface level friendships is also very isolating, when you don't really feel part of the group). And while being more social and having more social skills will make people more attractive tangentially, it's not why people should focus on building community to combat loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:18 PM

I'm the one who makes more in my relationship. I'm the one who owns the house we live in, with no mortgage or debt...And I still want my partner to have equal time to rest and do the things they love, and that includes quality time with me. You think having more money (with equal hours worked) means you should have more privileges in a relationship or less responsibilities. But if you lived alone and earned that same amount of money you'd be doing all the housework on your own anyway (or paying …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:40 PM

Both partners should have equal time to rest, not predicated on their salaries. So if both are working 40h, they should still share chores equally so they both have equal down time. Or one side is being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:48 AM
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Ok, what's your point? How many men are like this? Do you have data? Ok,whats your point? How many women are like this? do you have data? A bit weird to ask for that kind of proof when all you've provided in your original post is anegdotal experience as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:46 AM
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1)homeschooling is illegal in my country so there is no option B, actually This is basically the case for a lot of situations; THERE IS NO OPTION C that doesn't involve option A and B And this would be easy even if those two options existed. It would be the choice of the person who would actually have to do the homeschooling. If neither wants to homeschool, it's not an issue. If one wants to homeschool and is willing to stay home, fine. If one wants to homeschool but isn't willing to be the one …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:11 AM
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You keep introducing the idea of "Option C", but someone has to actually put that option forward, and then if one of the partners disagrees with it then Option C just becomes the new Option A vs Option B Then you keep thinking of new options untill you find something that works for both people. Since we're talking generally and not specifically. And borh should be trying to come up with solutions. Nor just one side. It does help to figure out wha needs you need men within the situation. And you …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:47 PM
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you'll just face relationship-ending dealbreakers over and over even if it's something trivial, just because neither partner is willing to back down since that makes them "lose the leader role". Trivial things and even important things usually get solved with option C, or both doing what they prefer. Dealbreakers tend to be things like wanting/not wanting kids, moving to another continent, etc. Which is why the idea of a "leader role" in a relationship is ludicrous. Because whatever people think…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:35 PM
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Because more men pay for those services.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:49 AM
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Depends on the choice. For some it will be a dealbreaker and end the relationship. For many, an option C will be found and agreed on. For many choices, person a can do choice A and person B will go with choice B.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:11 PM
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Look up the analysis of that video by someone who worked in a matchmaker service. Anyone, but especially women, with too specific an idea of what they're looking for get rejected, because their main goal apparently is the match percentage of their client base because tjays what their marketing is based on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:09 PM
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Because for people see the act of bottoming as "feminine" . And there's nothing worse for a man to be in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:47 AM
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It means they would die. And not taking antidepressants for some people, means they will take their own life. Also die. Hormones and brains are actually physical, you know. And happiness (and other emotions) are driven by hormones. Which is why more menopausal women are on antidepressants. You might want to Google PMDD (which is a hormonal condition often mistaken for bipolar/anxiety/depression) also PCOS. Also what actually happens in menopause and what different hormones do to affect mental he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:06 PM
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Does a diabetic have a drug dependence on insulin?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:53 AM
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Who's offing themselves the most? Antidepressants might help with that issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:52 AM
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This just tells me you would lie to get why you want. Not others
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:36 PM
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No, abusers and non abusers are different, regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:35 PM
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I see. Romantic or friendships or familial? Regardless, where's the effort, the cognitive aspect of figuring out who's "your type of person", the emotional labour and support involved with maintaining the relationships? You seem to have skipped over the whole social engineering part of relationships. Which is a bunch of EQ skills one needs to have to be able to have and maintain healthy relationships, regardless of paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:42 PM
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it seems as if the men and women can be equally strong, but patriarchy is very easy in humans because men are stronger Lok up the 5 kinds of human strength, and you might be surprised to learn that men are only generally better at 2, women at 2,and about evenly matched in one. Women are also 30% weaker in their luteal (period) phase than their oestrus phase (ovulation). Additionally, a lot of social norms for women, including appearance make women weaker/less of a threat. Being skinny for eg. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:29 PM
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What do you think is the process of acquiring and maintaining meaningful relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:10 PM
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Several reasons I think. Many men tie their self worth to outside metrics. "virility" and sexual success is a big one. (most) Women base all their relationships on emotional effort, labour or support. This means more women are likely to have real community rather than surface level friendships. Real community is more important for not feeling lonely or isolated than having a partner. Many women have never been more lonely than while in a relationship (with a very wrong person). Many women experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:01 PM
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Because the human libido is a driver, one that can be managed completely by the self (masturbation). And while it's usually tied to sexual attraction, it's not the same thing. A dick pick is about as sexually attractive to (most) women as though you sent a dick covered in herpes unless there's prior sexual attraction to that person. Plus out of all the parts of a man's body, it's not the most appealing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:08 AM
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No woman should commit to a man who thinks it gives him "authority" over her. And they seem to be doing that (staying single rather than settling) , so all is well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:02 AM
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Thats when you know you are in charge. And for a relationship to last, the man has to be in charge. And this is why women say being single is better than settling. Coz you might end up with someone who thinks this kind of BS and there's zero reason to agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:12 AM
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Why would this be a reason against marrying someone from another country who plans to move and stay in your country unless your only goal is a green card? It's only negative for those with an ulterior motive. I mean the whole concept of passport bros is built on an ulterior motive. Passport bros aren't dudes who travel and happen to meet the woman of their dreams. They're specifically going to a more economically disadvantaged area where women have even less social and economic power, and less r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:24 PM
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First of all, this is only true if said mammals are on death's door. Often things reproduce MORE when times are tough, because they've evolved instincts that basically say "I'm not gonna be here much longer, it's now or never." No, that's not really true. Also in those cases they usually eat the young. Including its own mother. Second, with regards to humans, poor people have more kids, not fewer. Coz they have the least access to abortion, birth control and family planning. Not the point you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:14 AM
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Because having kids and being a mother is not every womans ideal life and with education, the right to work, and birth control, women now have other options, so they're taking them. Because most mammals don't reproduce as much or at all (depending on specie) when resources are scarce and the rich-poor divide globally is bigger than it was during the French revolution. That makes the resources scarce. Because raising a good human being is hard work, and we finally are becoming aware of how hard i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:50 PM
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Channing Tatum is not attractive to me. I don't know any women who expect that in a dude. Do you know how unhealthy it is to maintain that type of physique long term? Nah, my type is slender, long haired, and pretty. And my standards have nothing to do with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:27 PM
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I love that for you. But since you aren't an experienced woman I'm not sure how your experience applies to this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:24 PM
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So? Depression in men is tied to social expectations, divorce and rejection. Hormones or not, that does not make female depression any more valid than male Depression. Never said it was, I was just correcting the reason as to why, since it was factually wrong. But considering women receive so much social support and privilege, it is odd they are more depressed by just hormonal shift... but who am I to judge What social supports and privilige? In my country mental healthcare is part of universal …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:32 PM
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99% of people are not your friends, that does not make them less human or less valuable. If you exclude a whole group of people as a potential friend based on gender, or sexuality, or race, or class, it does say something about you as a person. No preference exists or develops in a vacuum. Women can be narcissistic, evil, stupid... Sure they can. The logical choice is not associate with such people. You need standards for the people in your life, including friends they will still have people kis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:17 PM

Weird how I never experienced that from women, even the ones I dated. I think I prefer my reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:04 PM
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And women, with their boatload of choices in their inboxes, are a wee bit spoiled by it and have forgotten how to make lemonade out of lemons and no longer feel any need to stoop to doing so, Women who lack choices they want prefer to remain single. Remaining single is always a choice, one men have too. And if you switched your apps to men only, and had a 100 "choices", would you consider them actual options? (assuming you're straight) But us guys be making lemonade or else we be not just single…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:51 PM
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I honestly don't see any value men can get from female friends that they cannot get more or better from male friends. Because you don't see women as actual people, with their own individual strengths and weaknesses. Because people need community, and not just one gender as community. On top of that, female friends are high maintenance, while male friendships can go dormant for years with no issues. If by high maintenence you mean take effort, do you really not see the parralel drawn between fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:43 PM
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I can honestly say I have never been in a friendship with either gender where someone else constantly pays (or a romantic relationship for that matter). We usually take turns or go Dutch. Coz we're friends. I have had friends who were going through rough patches and I'd pick up their tabs because I wanted to, but that wasn't the expectation, I just wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:40 PM
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You admitting you don't have standards isn't the flex you think it is, nor a realistic reason why other people shouldn't have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:09 PM
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Do experienced women want inexperienced men? Pleasing women sexually is an acquired skill after all, and that takes practice. Im assuming that many if not most experienced women tend to enjoy good sex so an inexperienced man might not be the most attractive option to them either. Especially if they have a puritanical mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:50 AM
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How is you being willing to lower your standards our responsibility or our problem? Seriously? No one made you "take one for the team" and the fact you fprced yourself to date a woman is not only unfair to you (but also your choice) but also unfair to her. She could have Ben with someone who actually found her attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:40 AM
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Women also say that the prefer remaining single to selling, so I don't think this is much of an option for any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:38 AM
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No one is talking about locking her up in chains, we're talking about starting a verbal argument which is absolutely not a crime. Actually, some types of verbal arguments doe fit the legal emotional abuse definirion, probably should check for your area. And there's no argument to be had there. Someone tries to be controlling to you and you end it with them. Controlling men aren't relationship material. Because thats what a relationship is. Your relationships, maybe, not mine. I give up the freed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:31 AM
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So, in your mind, all foreign women are golddiggers whose only goal in life is to get a green card? What does foreign mean to you? Yemkeb araby ya habiby? Aw Kurwaty? Srpski? The US is the foreign country to me. And you couldn't pay me enough to live there. Of the women I know who would consider it, I wouldn't call them gold diggers, but I would call them pragmatic. And no, that's not what I said, I just know how traditional women from 2 passport bro countries tend to think about American men in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:25 AM
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On the other hand, just where are people supposed to meet other people of the opposite sex who share the same interests if not at hobbies? Why not just meet people and build your social circle and if something happens, happens? Because when guys keep doing the cold approach and the warm approach in these ways, women answer by limiting and vetting our social circles even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:05 AM
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Why would a woman from one of those countries agree to marrying a western guy if it's not to get out of her country? The ones who would consider a western man aren't that traditional and want to leave the country that tries to force them to be. The ones who are more traditional probably have better options among their own people, without a culture or language divide. (at least that's true in both my countries, neither of which is the US) And if she has children, they'll be American and she can g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:57 PM
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Because when they realize you have evidence, many stop (not all). Women have literally protected themselves by going on Tiktok/fb live and catching the dude's face when he was harassing them. The "weirdo" was trying to look up someone's skirt. Depending on where she is, she now has the evidence to file a harrassment report, which are rarely filed due to the he said/she said problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:26 PM
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It wasn't his junk that was filmed. If it had been, that would have fallen under revenge porn laws. You are using a false equivalent. It also depends on your local privacy laws. I'm in the EU so GDPR applies. (you need consent to have your photos/videos used in any capacity, which is the simplified version). But if you're a one party consent state, you can film whoever you want in public, but it would still be illegal to do creep shots. And if it was legal, (which thankfully it isn't) that still…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:22 PM
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The friendzone doesn't exist. Either someone rejects you and you choose to stay their friend, or you move on. If you choose to remain their friend in the hopes they change their mind, that's no one's decision but yours. If you don't make a move and feel bitter about it, again, that's no one's decision but yours. If you don't actually want to be friends with someone, you get to walk away, that's also completely up to you. But valuing and maintaining friendships is one of the reasons women are les…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:08 PM
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And those women willing to do so, know how long they need to stay married to have citizenship. And if she doesn't work due to moving a country for you? The alimony is calculated based on sacrifice. That tends to be considered a pretty big one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:51 AM
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DnD has a 60% male base and 40% female base. It's only slightly male dominated. It's that those of us women who do enjoy DnD and tabletop rpg, vet who we play with thoroughly. You only need to encounter one DM who allows graphic rape scenes or sexual scenes to realize that that's necessary. We have one dude in our DnD sessions, and he's queer AF. I will no longer play at organized local game Caffè events, because 2 of the 4 DMs there do not pass the vetting process and you don't know which DM is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:46 AM
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Never not had friends either, and I moved continents and countries at 11. But I do think real community is more important than being in a relationship. Why don't you have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:34 AM
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I've done both. I'll take my house dark and quiet over a relationship I feel lonely and isolated in. I can always invite friends over. And i can honestly say I've never had nothing to do. That's what hobbies are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:32 AM
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There's few worse feelings than being lonely in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:20 AM
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A man wasn't complete without a wife and children, and woman wasn't complete without a husband and children. Did anyone ask women (and men) if this was the life they wanted? Because it seems like with the advent of birth control, many people don't feel the need to have kids to be "complete". And I can honestly say for myself that I have personally never felt like half a person. A partner may bring joy and love and support to my life (awesome things with a great deal of value) but she/he does not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:40 AM
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Nope. I think its more like "society has taught men their emotions (a completely natural part of our species) are weakness and has taught women enjoying sex(a completely natural part of our species) makes you impure" and each side is dealing with the millenia of repercussions of that. Deprogramming it will take a little bit of work and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:23 AM
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Ahh, you're insecure and don't trust her (I assume it's a hypothetical her) and think having control over her will act as a replacement for that trust. She can go to the club with her single friends. You trying to stop her would actually be illegal. You don't get any power or control over her. And she never has to obey you. That's the reality of the world we live in. Why on earth would any woman give up her actual freedom and agency for a relationship like you've described? No man, no job, nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:11 AM
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If she is a better leader, why doesn't he give up control? Why would a woman feel good giving up control to a man but not vice a versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:31 AM
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Why would it apply if there's a conflict of collaboration? And again, why would the man be making the decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:30 AM
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Learn to read. "" Obedience, noun, compliance with an order, request, or law or submission to another's authority." We're talking about the authority metric in this context" 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:20 AM
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I also don't get this. I'm not into hookups or ONS, and when I realized that was what most were looking for, I deleted the app within a week and without meeting up with anyone. Not my cup of tea, so I moved on. Tbf, I do have an active social life and constantly meet people organically IRL, so the dating app was more to see what that was like
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:02 AM
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Request, technically. And I already told you that in the context of this discussion, we're talking about "submitting to authority" since that is the parralel with a boss. Anyway, I'm done discussing semantics with you, have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:58 AM
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No, because you're allowed to say "no". That's consent. What's confusing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:56 AM

Babysitting is not parenting. And there's a huge difference between a baby sitter, and au pair. Feel free to look up what's expected of one and how much they make. it's magical and it should be 2nd nature for humans. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:41 AM
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No, that isn't what I consider obedience or surrender in this context. Obedience, noun, compliance with an order, request, or law or submission to another's authority. Here we're talking about the "submission to authority metric" Surrender, noun 1. stop resisting to an enemy or opponent and submit to their authority. 2. give up or hand over (a person, right, or possession), typically on compulsion or demand. Glad we cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:35 AM
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This i can honestly say I never stayed at a job where the boss went on a power trip. I have strong labour laws in my country that protect me from my boss and the system, unions, and I've never looked for a job for more than 2 weeks, and I've been working since I was 18, and am 30 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:29 AM
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So, most of the men I have dated should have been subservient to me. Interesting. Cant imagine ever wanting that from someone I claim to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:27 AM
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And to add, if you love someone you surrender to them No, if you love someone you want to protect their autonomy and agency, even if it means a bad outcome for your personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:25 AM
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And men should be the ones in charge of decisions because: * Women prefer it this way; * Men prefer it this way. As a woman, while I have seen a few women online who might want to submit (and I've seen men who do too) I can honestly say I have never preferred anyone else making my decisions for me, nor do I know any women who do IRL. Men thinking this comes "naturally" to us or that most of us want a relationship like that, is honestly just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:24 AM

If you think that raising kids is "sitting down and relaxing all day long" you're forgetting to do the parenting and nurturing part. And that's kind of the important bit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:19 AM
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This is my perspective as a left wing woman. Being conservative/right wing is a dealbreaker. Whether I find out on the first meeting, or 2 years in, it's going to be a dealbreaker. The purposefully omitting it is gonna make it even worse. Because that's dishonest and manipulative,if you purposefully keep something from someone so that they'd date you. If a woman knows this about the guy and is willing to date him, that's fine. Probably rare AF, but it could happen. His best shot would be dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:18 AM
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No, but in many ways they are simillar. A brown, woolen shapeless sack with arms will keep you warm in a cold climate. A cotton/linen shapeless sack will keep the sun off you in the desert. But we still like having different cuts, styles, options and colors. You can't claim it's just for utility. And makeup (at least the good kind) comes with skin care in it. SPF, or hyaluronic acid, moisturizer, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:15 PM
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By that logic so is clothing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:09 PM
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I didn't claim otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:39 PM
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It's art! Counturing is witchcraft though, in the best way. So I can cosplay all the different face shaped people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:36 PM
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What's fun to children isn't really fun to adults. Weird, I still find most of my childhood hobbies fun. When did you lose your joy? Was it gradual or did you just wake up at 18 and it was gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:58 PM
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Can you not use autistic as an insult? The fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:56 PM
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Nah, it's a form of expression. It's paint. Or I wouldn't have done mine in the pandemic during lock down (I don't post pics or vids on social media) . Not all the time, but every few days. It's fun! And you can do all kinds of cool looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:56 PM
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She’s not putting on a cut crease and glitter lips for men, she’s doing it because its’s fun. The girls get it. And are the ones who appreciate how hard a good cut crease or ombre glitter brows are to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:53 PM
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Literally was just at a funeral, felt poorly and sad and couldn't deal with makeup. No less than 4 people commented on it. At a fucking funeral. For my uncle. 2 of those were family members. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:51 PM
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To me personally, yes. To you its attractive. TYL that people are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:40 PM
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Humans have 2 arms. Women can be pregnant. Does this mean all humans have 2 arms? No. Can all women get pregnant? No. Generalizations are almost never 100%. Were you taught about context in school? Hopefully. The context here is men who make up fantasies about women who rejected them. What you support and whose side you are on is entirely your problem. And if your opinion is so easily swayed, why would anyone care to have you on theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:53 AM
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Women aren't fondly reflecting on all the men who pestered us when we were trying to live our lives. This. Lol bruh she doesn't even remember you exist, and here you are making up a whole ass interaction where she wants your affection and you get to tell her no - an entire decade later. Does anyone remember their faces 2 minutes after they get rid of them? No seriously. Like..does anyone spend time thinking about them except when talking about how frustrating it is as a behaviour? This is the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:48 AM
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Okay that's a new one. You prefer dating men who don't work full time? Docs don't work full time, they work insane schedules and can be called in at any point and are constantly on call. Heck yeah I would love to date a rich fit woman who gives me plenty of free time. Great! I love that for you. But while I like my alone time, I also like plans made together to be priorities & not canceled and be with someone who knows what a good work-life balance is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:31 AM
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There are no "misconceptions", studies show that porn has a negative affect on minds, especially developing ones. But if someone wants to fuck themselves up, that's their business. My personal issue is how much of porn is based on sex trafficking, how a porn star will refuse to do anal, but then after 4-6hours of shooting she/he gets told to do anal or she/he won't be paid for the hours he/she has already worked. That kind of shit. I'm not for banning it, but I am for making it far, far, far mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:11 AM
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There are unemployed, drug dealing, personality disordered, futureless good-for-nothings who have absolutely no problem finding female companionship. Sure some women do. Meanwhile, there are 35 year old brain surgeons who go hard in the gym, volunteer for cancer research, and can't find a women to give them any attention to save their life. What time for a relationship does someone like this have? Would you want to be with someone who had this kind of schedule? ALSO, if the "I can fix him" impul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:56 AM
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In this specific situation, you'll find your answer by researching trauma bonds. They literally warp how your brain thinks untill you think you're the crazy one. Another thing to note is that 9/10 autistic women will be in at least one abusive relationship in their life, because a lot of the early red flags are actually social cues. How someone says something, what they say, what they dont say, and untill we cognitively learn them we miss them. (for men the number is 6/10, which is also waay too…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:59 PM
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Your brain makes that judgement before you're even aware of it. It may not be the highest priority after weighing all factors, but it's certainly the most basic. I'm demisexual. I don't feel sexual attraction untill I have an emotional connection with someone. At best I feel aesthetic attraction (I like their looks/style) but that's the same for me as looking at a statue or a work of art. Not everyone experiences attraction the same way. There's quite a few studies on it. Human sexuality and att…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:57 AM
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According to this online dating accounts for 38%of how couples meet in the US (I checked, for my country in the EU it's 25% which is still higher than I expected) . Okay, fair. But how many meet in clubs or at random parties? (so not houseparties with their friend group)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:12 AM
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Do you have something to back up the claim that that's where most people meet, or is it just your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:54 AM
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more objectifying than online dating, or going to clubs, or parties I can honestly say I have never dated anyone from one of these settings, except house parties with people I know well. Do people even meet people organically through their social life anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:37 AM
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I can't speak for all women, but I have zero interest in going on a date with someone I don't already know and haven't vetted. Someone being physically attractive is not what I consider "the basic level".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:35 AM
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Starts dropping around 35, sperm banks won't take older than 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:53 PM
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Being on this sub (& online in general) makes me appreciate the men in my life on a whole new level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:18 PM
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Whether other women like him/her is irrelevant (if it's in the find him/her romantically attractive sense) . If it's in the "don't like to be around him/her at all" yeah that's a huge red flag. Him/her not having friends is a dealbreaker for dating as far as Im concerned. A partner cannot take the place of a whole community and if you try you'll burn out. And many people who don't have a friendgroup start resenting your social life. I like my social life and my friends, it's not up for discussio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:05 PM
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The idea of one or multiple one night stands, just seems disgusting and sexually irresponsible. The quantity of partners would open to up to an increased risk of STI/STD and heaven forbid you got pregnant. I disagree. That's what's STI testing and condoms are for. And weirdly enough, STIs spread the most by cheating, not people who know they're engaging in ONS because those people take precautions. ONS don't make sense because as a woman you only have a 15% chance of orgasm with a man in a ONS. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:25 AM
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In this context, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:16 AM
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Straight women have the least amount of casual sex than any other sexuality (e except possibly asexual people, but there just isn't data on that) . Queer women have far more than straight women or straight men and gay men have more than them, but not that much more. Women are more likely to have fwb as causal sex than ONS though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:38 PM
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The analogy is flawed because food is a need and should be a human right. Having a partner is neither of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:00 PM
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Aaah, nihon ga fan desuka? Kawaii gaijinkun 😂 Japan has a birthrate 1. 34/woman , an aging population, and have huge issues with sexual assault and rape (which contributes to the low birth rates and general sexlessness of the society as does the work ethic). They work so many hours in a day that their mental health problems are severe, but not treated till they become a danger to others. And treatment is being kind about it. Covid additionally caused stress to their demographic. Not to mention t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:27 PM
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I'm all for sex work being legalized and sex workers protected and respected, as long as there are always alternative options in place for people in poverty (and I feel the same way about the military. 25+ and purely volontary, and social safety nets for young men and women to not end up having to enlist for a chance at a better life .)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:20 PM
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Always back to wanting control over others. What's a successful society btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:17 PM
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That part I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:00 AM
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Would you pay for having a false accusation removed as a woman? If so how much? Lol no, I'd laugh my ass off, and start telling everyone about his weird sex fetishes or that he said his mom's name or wanted me to pretend he was a baby and swaddle him or something. Or that we were gonna have sex but the dick cheese was a turnoff. It would be hilarious. It would also be a great way to know which men to avoid completely, kind of like when someone listens to Andrew tate or Peterson. It would honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:46 AM
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An experiment showed that the more women know about the risks involved in pregnancy and childbirth the less the "urge to reproduce" is. And that's not new. The ancient Romans ate a contraceptive plant into extinction, literally. Humans have sex for pleasure, not just reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:41 AM
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Because of the way the question was worded, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:15 AM
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Being locked in a cage and shoved with nutrients would be a violation of your agency and bodily autonomy. Someone being forced to be someone else's friend or partner, would be a violation of their agency and autonomy. I agree community is super important. But it's still something that involves other people's consent, and you can't have it without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:10 AM

Because of my wasband and one roommate from hell. And because I think that's the bare minimum to cohabitate with someone. And because I watched my mom clean after my dad my whole childhood and I promised myself that would never be me. And weirdly, a lot of roommates actually liked the clear nature of the conditions and many people do, in fact, like to live in clean and neat surroundings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:03 AM
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Asking them to stop is like showing up to a starving shelter with a limited amount of food and asking everyone to act civilized. Will never work Women aren't food. Food is necessary for human to survive. A woman is not, unless the person in question is a newborn and the woman in question is their breastfeeding mother. And even then if something goes wrong there's the option of formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:38 PM
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I have. Partners and roommates. I own my house and rented out the extra rooms. I put it in the lease that not maintaining common areas and personal space (room) was grounds for eviction with a month's written notice. Only had to evict 2 dudes, one of whom I was dating, one a roommate, and one woman roommate in the course of 10 years. All within 2 months of moving in. Most people absolutely can and will do their part if there are real consequences to not doing it and if they don't, I made sure I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:05 PM
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As a woman, I find femboys really attractive. And even if I didn't, why would they bother me? How someone presents or dresses doesn't hurt anyone else. Life's too short not to decorate your meatsuit however you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:16 PM
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Or maybe the only clients who are legally allowed to pay for the service need to have vasectomies and proof of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:51 PM
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And you have to be 25+, not under.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:50 PM

Everyone has some insecurities they need to work on. But that's different then someone being insecure to the point where they expect you to enable that insecurity. And if men learn their value through relationships, then it's no wonder they're depressed and insecure. self-worth and self-confidence need to come from the self, not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:43 PM
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So you are litterallly mad over semantics No, because the people who don't want to help, or can't, don't offer. If you think expecting something is the same as saying yes to something offered I don't know how to help you understand the difference. Yeah,we shall make parent's lives even more shit, that will probably be a net positive for society (not). No we should pay parents a wage for the first 6 years of a child's life, because children are neccesary to society and parenting and raising good …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:37 PM

"sad guys in the internet" are not gonna have healthy relationship skills, and they might be outright hostile or bigoted. Even if someone treats you poorly out of ineptitude and not outright malice, that doesn't change the impact of their behaviour on you. Someone who neglects you out of absentmindedness is gonna hurt, maybe not as much as someine doing it to punish you, but it still causes harm. Do you know how long it takes and how much work it is to help an insecure person or one with an anxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:19 PM
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And? They probably are the ones whining about wanting grandkids too,so here it is. Mine never did. Sorry if yours did. Also when they did that, granny probably didn't work. And most probably they also got help from family Offered help, at least in my culture. You don't expect it, but it is usually offered. Yes because it requires so much mobility to handle a baby that can't even walk yet lol It does in emergencies. And again, it's not something anyone is entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:28 PM
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Imagine being such a lazy parent that you expect to be able to outsource parenting to your parents who already did that and who are getting older and in less mobile bodies. (I am neither US American nor have I ever set foot in the US. Also not protestant or part of any abrahamic religion).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:17 PM
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Absolutely that is weird. But his ability to consent wasn't removed, he wasn't under a guardianship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:31 AM
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She hurt herself with the sex, specifically. If he was Forrest's kid then yes, she fucked up by not telling him. How did she harm Forrest? By fucking him? Or not loving him the same way he loved her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:36 PM
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Adolf hurt countless people. Jenny harmed herself. If you think that's the same, you have a lot more to deal with than Forrest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:25 PM
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No, you're sick of women being able to have sex whenever they want to, when you can't. And you delight in it if it is done in ways that harm them, because you think they deserve to be punished for giving others what you think they should give you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:23 PM
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Ah yes, shooting up a school or murdering someone would be a much better way of dealing /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:21 PM
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You don't know my life experience. And I don't necessarily think I can do better. I just think being single is preferable to being with someone who doesn't want to be with you. And than being with someone I don't want to be with But you're right I've never been truly alone. I've always had friends and family. I'm not lonely without a relationship but I have been lonely in one. And that feels much worse than no relationship to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:44 PM
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Its privilege to not want to be with someone whose forced to be with me? Not to want to rape someone? Weird, I feel like being entitled to another's body is far, far, worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:48 PM
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Maslows hierarchy of human rights includes relationships to be a "self actualised" person. Maslow stole and bastardized indigenous concepts. learn more here But don't be surprised when shit like school shootings and men having mental breakdowns happens more often. Not advocating them btw. No, just using them to attempt to threaten compliance, as male violence has been historically used. "if you don't have a husband bad men will rape and beat you" ignoring the fact the sex with the husband probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:36 PM
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Since human relationships, not even familial or friendships, are NOT a human right since they involve someone else wanting to give you their time, energy, presence and support (which is based on their bodily autonomy and agency), one is a human rights violation, and the other is not. I'm sorry for men who are lonely, but not having a relationship is not equivalent to being stripped of your rights and forced into sexual and reproductive slavery. Ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:30 PM
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Not everyone wants marriage or even monogamy. Enforcing it societally would in fact, infringe on human rights. If you took away BC, you wouldn't force women to stop having casual sex. For one, quite a few women are bisexual. I can see us just swearing off men completely. We have that option. Cheating always happened and I bet more men raised children not their own when divorce wasn't an option and marriage was a must than they do now. Women had a much higher incentive to keep it a secret. Instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:39 AM
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You don't get to choose what academic language or common language is, and you don't get to stop academic language becoming universal, it either does or it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:50 AM
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I use cis. My friends use cis. What you mean is you don't use cis or the people around you. And if people didn't use 2 words when one would suffice we wouldnt have essays and fiction and most of language. And they aren't exact synonyms you know. Also biological woman implies the possibility of cyborg woman and I find the current impossibility of it demoralizing (this is a joke)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:45 AM
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Yes, because he doesn't have the necessary skills for a healthy romantic relationship if he's never been in one, and I don't like being a mentor to other adults. The virgin part isn't as important, since every person is different and there's a learning curve with anyone new.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:31 AM
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Talk therapy (CBT and DBT) is the most widely available but it isn't the most useful or successful for most people regardless of gender. It's just the easiest so it's the most common. There's also somatic therapy, (body based), EMDR (for trauma and complex trauma), therapy that targets EQ skills (conflict resolution, emotional regulation, heathy communication, etc), anger management therapy, movement therapy, art therapy, and those are not all of them. You need to find the right kind of therapy …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:11 AM
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I belive parenthood should be a paid position for the first 6 years, regardless of gender. Society keeps complaining about low birth rates, women are opting out of having children because staying on track with a career is basically impossible if you have a kid, a long break on a resume looks bad, and no one wants to work full time and be the primary caregiver because that's like having 2 fulltime jobs, one of which is completely unpaid and unappreciated labour. Labour without which society colla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:52 AM
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The term is cis woman. I am a cis woman. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:36 AM
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Women create most of their own support groupss and nonprofits and political movents. You think the suffragettes were liked or listened to in the beggining? If yes, go google their history. If you want change advocate for it. Fight for it. Changing social norms isn't easy. As for men not having it... Not all men. My partner is part of not one, but two healthy male support groups and another mentoring peer group for teenage boys. If there's a will, you find or create a space. Men cry and society p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:05 PM

Never heard of the uncanny valley?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:57 AM
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This. Make a support group, start a non profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:26 AM

In my country, therapy is tax funded just like all Healthcare. It does usually take a month or so to get your first appt, but then youre part of that docs schedule. If you can't access therapy, there are EQ books and workbooks, though it's definitely harder alone. There are also free classes at community centre's where I am, and our larp community has subsidized tickets for low income players or they can volonter as NPCs and get the ticket to the next game free. Or they just get so tired and bur…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:16 PM

It does, but it's not impossible. First you start with targeted EQ skills therapy (breaks down social interactions teaches healthy conflict resolution emotional regulation self worth and validation, empathy, etc), the you join a class on a skill you're interested in or for creative expression (woodworking, larp, painting class, dance class, hiking class, whatever genuinely floats your goat so you enjoy the activity). You practice those social skills with little pressure in a class where you're l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:24 PM

Its not the same at all. And men wanting something doesn't mean women have to agree it's ethical. Or that they're gonna do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:20 PM

I already am, and I didn't have to give up my principles to do so. And your whole argument is find a "moral guy" in your "friendzone" and be immoral to him. Do you hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:18 PM

Ahh, so trying to change a dude who doesn't get any interest from women VS a "bad boy" is the problem? Because the dude without options is gonna be so thankful for the attention that it's more likely to succeed? Not the ethical implications of trying to literally influence people to be someone else... You realize this is literally advocating for coercing someone ? Which is abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:11 PM

A man would be thankful to be manipulated and molded? That's not an equal partner. That's someone youre controlling. And if you can do it, so can someone else. No one with a healthy psyche would be thankful for someone manipulating them into doing what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:08 PM

Does it? What do you term success? Tricking someone into being with you? Becoming what you want them to be? Many things "work" technically if you're devoid of morals and principles. Doesn't mean they should be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:06 PM

Some people can’t handle the idea of looking behind the glass or seeing how to play chess with life to win. Men seeing relationships as a chess game and something to "win" is probably quite a big part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:58 PM

I and my pussy are not a rehab center for lost boys. Hear, hear! We aren't self sabatoging. You're assuming the end goal is just to have a relationship which is stable. It's not. The fact men endlessly misunderstand this is what tells me you guys need a separate chart, and I don't have colored pencils, but I'll make one here: Men Bad relationship = sure Neutral relationship= yes Good relationship = ideal hooray Women Bad relationship = no Neutral relationship = no Good relationship = yes This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:57 PM

Human loneliness is more based on lack of real community than lack of relationships. Humans are social creatures. If all your friendships and connections with your family are surface level, you can have an amazing relationship and still feel lonely and isolated, coz one person can't do all the emotional labour and support of a whole community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:53 PM

So use his feeling for us (assuming he has any coz some guys are actually capable of actual friendship) to push him to be what we want him to be? And that doesn't seem manipulative or controlling to you? Unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:51 PM

So women should take on "projects" and hope they can I fluence their development and growth enough to make them into someone they want to date? Thought the problem was with women trying to "fix" or change men? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:45 PM
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I'm a woman. And I don't know why you'd be proud of being able to be underhanded. I think most people can be. I just don't think much of people who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:54 PM
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As a leftist woman,Im not suffering. And men trying to convince us we have it worse now is laughable. I grew up in Egypt. I've seen that world. It's why Ill never live there again. And I had the privilige of knowing both my grandmother's and one great grandmother (Slavic women all 3). They're the ones who told me what it used to be like for them. I own my own house, have a job I love and amazing partners I live with. I can be openly as queer as I want. I have universal healthcare and tax funded …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:42 PM
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The patriarchy is dying in the western world. What's happening now is called an "extinction burst" in psychology. It's infinitely amusing to watch. The patriarchy only works when women don't have sexual, economic and reproductive freedom. And now we do. The cats out of the bag. And which god is that? The abrahamic one? Based on those legends and stories, even he couldn't get women to obey him. Lilith refused to submit to Adam, and Eve did the one thing he told her not to do. If that sorry excuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:25 PM

You can disregard them all you like. But that still won't make women want to date you or change what they think is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:19 PM
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The "high" can't pass on his genes without the "low" turning him into a genetic dead end. But go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:40 PM
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I feel the same about romance movies. Also a lot of domineering and not taking a no at face value and all other kinds of unhealthy BS. As for romance books, thats like saying the whole genre of fantasy books are bad, because you've only read the house of night books. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:38 PM
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I feel very bad for autistic women / disadvantaged women that seek friendships with men because other women are ruthless towards them. As an autistic woman, please don't feel bad for me. I have friends, both men and women. They're just also mostly autistic or ND in some other way. Not because allistics don't want to be my friend, but because I use a lot less social spoons when I don't have to "translate" everything I say to the allistic neurotype or social model. And I prefer it that way. I neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:52 PM
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Modern, definitely. I'm not traditional and would rather be alone forever than in a relationship like that. Luckily I've never had a problem finding compatible people to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:29 AM
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It's paternity or parental leave. 🤦‍♀️ Go reread the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:05 AM
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I would never say settling is better than being alone because I genuinely don't believe it is. I think it builds resentment and is detrimental to everyone. But feel free to take it up with women who do say that. Or men. (did you miss the sarcasm tonetag in the first comment or something?)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:26 PM
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How is that related to not wanting to be settled for? That's women not wanting to settle. And no one should be with someone who makes their life worse or harder. That just seems like common sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:51 PM
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True enough. For either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:07 PM
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Because the average woman statistically still only makes about 30-40k a year, regardless of age... and it would make more sense to have a partner to split bills with *You can do this with a platonic bestie though. Because the average woman is also overweight/obese, and if she wants children it's wiser to partner with a man who wants to create a family... not to only be a hot men's bootycalls That's assuming most average women aren't in relationships. Many are. And all are fat? . In my country ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:07 PM
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And if you have the finances covered on your own? What then? And are you saying the only reason to be with someone is out of necessity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:00 PM
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1)bisecual people exist. Hi! 2)Prison, military, ships when women weren't allowed on them, all beg to differ. So does ancient Rome and Greece. Lesbian behaviour is fetishized and thus more "acceptable" 3)Also men doing stuff together is called slash fiction, or gay fiction or yaoi or a lot of other things depending on context and medium, but a lot of it is marketed to women, not gay men. You're just less likely to hear about it. And more likely to hear about it in a negative light coz again, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:07 PM
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Paid maternity leave is a thing in quite a few places in the world. They even have to give you your exact job back when it's over. It's a year in my country at full pay, second year at 80% pay. And dad's can also get parental leave but time varies by company, we're working to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:27 PM
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I think it's one study. I could be wrong. Hence why I asked for which one you were basing it on, instead of just linking the one I think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:38 PM
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Especially since certain men not getting any dates is basically due to women's free will as another person pointed out the other day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:05 PM
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Which is a super attractive prospect for women, everyone wants to be with someone desperate who might only be choosing them coz it's better than being lonely /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:04 PM
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Please link that study, so I can show most of the abuse lesbians and bi women experience were from a previous relationship with a man (coz that study if it's the one I'm thinking of gets misinterpreted a lot)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:02 PM

I cant speak for all women, only for myself. Because of the cultures. I grew up in Egypt. As a woman, I'm not interesting in being with a Muslim (or anyone religious of any denomination). I saw what that culture and religion does to and how it treats women. I don't want it in my personal life, and I literally moved so I wouldn't have to live in it. And most Arabs are religious coz you have to be a follower of one of the abrahamic religions to live in most specifically Arab Muslim countries. Id c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:18 AM
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All my male fwb wanted a relationship. One effing proposed, ffs. Some of my female fwb did, but not all. And they handled the "sorry still not interested in a relationship, we should probably stop having sex then" a whole lot better than the guys. I've caught feelings a couple of times too, but I just let them pass without saying anything. If someone is a fwb, we aren't compatible for anything long term romantically or I would have asked them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:41 AM
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Pretty much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:25 PM
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Could it be because if they don't they're the ones who get looked down on because of how society views what a woman's role is? Also editing a comment after the fact to change the whole meaning is kinda childish. Edit - I see now you didn't, for some reason the older comment just didn't show up for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:36 PM
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Human psyche?? Are you THAT mentally weak? I'm not the one having a temper tantrum. Emotional regulation is part of emotional strength btw Men hear all kind of fuqed up shyt from each other and even you women. Yes, that's part of the problem. Its the same regardless of gender. However, men are not as MASOCHISTIC and CHILDISH to the point where boredom is often somehow worse to us than stability What were you even trying to say here? Women HATE boring men or men who aren't "romantic". No y'all lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:42 PM
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And if men aren't aware of the repercussions of their actions on another humans's psyche maybe they shouldn't be part of society. Logic without emotion is often cruelty. (because empathy and compassion are emotions) And I've been in a longterm relationship for a long time dude. My personal happiness doesnt have bearing on the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:27 PM
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That women stay away too long out of a misguided sense of love? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:32 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:04 PM
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Also I realized that what I said could come of as catty.😅 I meant it genuinely. I snort laughed. It was good. I'm probably over thinking it but tone is hard online.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:58 PM
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Ahh yes, for sure more than my original country of Egypt or now in the Balkans. 😂 Thanks for the laugh though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:46 PM
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Which occupation was that? And define dirtier, like hygiene issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:38 PM
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No, that's a US thing. women garden more where I am. My room and garden are my jungles. And lawns aren't really a thing here. But I can see it being a very zen chore to do. and cut grass smells so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:17 PM
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Plus the state of some men's apartments. Like they claim to be visual and don't notice trash and mess everywhere? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:26 PM
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I feel sorry for your wife. You're out here literally bragging about doing the bare minimum to please her sexually. Like dude... Do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:24 AM
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Yeah, as a "masculine woman" whose financially set for life, none of that holds any weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:34 AM

My goal is well-being of my children and their mother. I don't care much about anyone else. How are either of those accomplishable in an unfair and unjust society?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:21 PM
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Men are not incharge of how they grow up and have no movement throwing off the chains of gendered expectation like women did. And perhaps never will None of us are responsible for the systems we're raised in. But we are responsible for fixing them lest our descendants inherit them. And women created that movement for us. Feminism already exists. Are you saying men aren't allowed to join or are incapable of their own activism? We live in a society which lionizes Positive violence and lethal self …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:07 PM
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Okay let me try kindergarden 1)hookups with men are just not that sexually good for women (feel free to Google the orgasm gaps in hetero hookups) 2) women who want hookuos are usually looking for male validation. Those women were usually raised without it. Whi h makes them an easy target of you know what you're doing 3)predators are not just violent rapists. They are coercive, manipulators and groomers. From pick up lines to direct lies, those strategies work based on the dark triad. (which is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:58 PM
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Has it occurred to you that this was by design so that men would be willing to fight each other - ie be a soldier, be the cop, fight for other people. And I was raised to be a mother, wife, straight and monogamous and religious. . Weirdly, I started rejecting most of that at an early age. Are you positing men are less aware of their reality and don't know how to change it? Or that they are less capable of Changing what doesn't work for them? And I am none of those things, and I've never had trou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:51 PM
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I don't feel like I'm good enough at teaching kindergarden to connect those dots for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:47 PM
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What's a best possible man?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:46 PM

Conjecture, but most houses bought without one - probably are bought either using parents' savings, or inheritance. The only thing "unis being tax funded" means is that someone else had to get in debt in your stead. I pay taxes too, and have since I was 18. And I'm very happy to do if it means all kids get a school lunch, education and healthcare. I worked during uni and lived with my parents. And they did give me all the money they spent on my sister's education when I graduated (they went to A…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:42 PM
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As someone who grew up in a desert, few people actually die. We get taught early on how to deal with the desert. And when people die, its more due to getring lost, or flash floods or tourists who underestimate the desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:26 PM
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Which would make sense, if you didn't know how predators pick their victims, (based on which traits) and if they didn't have the option of lying, and if you don't know how trauma bonds work. It's a complex issue, but basically, people who have been abused, regardless of gender, are more likely to end up in (less) abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:25 PM
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Or she has,better things to do with her time than argue with you, based on your comment history, can't imagine a woman wanting to "hang" with you in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:22 PM
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Not related to the topic, but how can you be a feminist and red pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:21 PM
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Chanpagne would dehydrate you. Which I guess is an apt comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:20 PM
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Umm.. I'm demisexual. I don't do ONS or hookups. And by approach I mean ask out when I'm interested. Not the cold approach. I dont know shit about the person so I'm not attracted to them. And I don't fuck people untill I know them and want them. (how would I even know they meet my preferences unless I know them? Lol) I just find my success rate with men to be 8/10 and with women to be 6/10 (approximate estimate and yes, that includes people who already have partners). Most of my rs have been lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:15 PM
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You cant drop your career or your peers just because they said women bad, and made sexist remarks Working with someone does not men you need to have a personal relationship with them, or that you can't call them out or report them to HR. Do you think everyone is sitting on mountain of gold that they can quite their jobs whenever they want? Really think hard how actionable is your advice I find it easy enough, personally. I'd never hold someone to a standard I didn't hold myself to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:45 PM

Both of these things generate debt, not wealth. Property is one of the most stable investments, and once you've paid it off, not only does it's property value keep rising, but you can also rent it to generate more income. And in my country UNI is tax funded, so no debt. I've owned my house free and clear for 7 years. Never been in debt. Never even owned a credit card. Never needed to. Additionally: 23% of married women between college and retirement have zero wage income. This estimate has staye…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:00 PM
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It's not logic, it's indoctrination. Queer women have more freedom coz we break the social norms just by being queer, so chucking the rest of gender roles in the toilet comes easier to us, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:55 PM
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Sounds like a US issue. You guys have a lot to deal with. That sounds like a lot. I can honestly say I've never met a single person who has been to jail.(that I know of tbf). I heard of a couple of people from grade school who supposedly did, but no one knows where they are or what they're doing anymore. Could you link that study though? I'm curious about the breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:17 PM

So finances? But millenial women are outbuying men in property, and millennial and genZ women are out preforming men academically and in college degrees. So that's already changing, at least for the middle classes and lower. And in your chart it shows at least that for single white women, it's better than for married white women. So... Are women gonna massively come out as lesbians in gen alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:52 PM
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Not in my country. Is that US specific or something? Could you link one of those studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:19 PM
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Do you have any data but your opinion to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:16 PM

So it's fair to conclude women seek relationships solely to deal with loneliness or free sex cuz who doesnt like good ol'orgasms? Since women only have a 15%chance of orgasm in a committed relationship with a man, and 90% in a committed rrlationshio with a woman why would they date men for orgasms if they were lesbians or bi? That's just bad math. And they could get companionship from women too. So again, why would they be dating men? This whole post is super weird and seems like a way to make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:15 PM

Especially since a cock isn't attractive untill it's linked to a person I actually like. Also the "why would women want to watch porn where women experience pleasure?! That's gay!" Or " if you're aesthetically attracted to someone it much be sexual. That's gay!" types of human attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:12 PM
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Men responsibility is for women in their lives, such as gf, friends, wives or daughters. So men are territorial, not protective. They will "protect" what they see as their territory. Guess women are the natural protectors. Which tbf is true in nature too. No one wants to deal with a mother with cubs or kits or pups. Men are even less of a collective than women, as men are very individualistic. Ever occurred to you that that the root of male loneliness? Humans need community more than they need p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:59 PM
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Absolutely but asking why isn't pestering them to introduce you. It can give you actual reasons as to why. Which can help as can any feedback from people who know you well and are at least slightly objective. Like you did with your gal friends and appearance /style
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:39 PM
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He also has a lot of money and is a confirmed abusive predator and is surrounded by vulnerable women. Do you know how much abuse there is in the music industry and Hollywood? You're basically looking at a breeding ground for rape culture and wondering how people are indoctrinated by it. Coercion, manipulation and gaslighting, and normalizing that behaviour, that's how. And some women and men write love letters to serial killers ffs. Would you think those people representative of all men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:37 PM
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That an injured person with a chronic health condition is their best option to invest their time is a reflection of their own desperation Those both things came years later and apart. Have you never had a long term relationship? Experienced actual love? The more you tell me, the more I pity you. You have no data to support what you're saying other than on marriage which is different since generally that implies kids which is something you can't get out of. Marriages does not imply kids. Plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:34 PM
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Did you ever ask any of the ones you asked why they never introduced you to anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:32 PM
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Or a woman can do the approaching and really clean up. As a bi woman the gender norms around dating never made sense to me. Makes more sense for me to approach people based on my preferences, than wait to be approached based on someone else's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:31 PM
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I have tried to encourage friends to introduce me to available women, but even though there have been times when I was struggling, no-one ever has. They always say that they will, but then they never do. Who did you ask guy friends or gal friends? Because I won't reccomend or introduce someone if I think they'll be a bad partner (of any gender) If I think they're gonna be a good one, they don't have to ask to be introduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:29 PM
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They must be extremely desperate and even lower on the social hierarchy. More so than a person without friends or community? Do you know how social hierarchies work? People date and interact with others because of utility they get from it, when that utility ends the relationship ends. Goddess, that's a sad way to look at human connection. But I guess when you have nothing to offer but utility and resources it makes sense. I hope one day you're truly desired for who you are are, and feel that for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:11 PM
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Just say that's what you would do and move on. I wasn't married to my partners or my friends and they still showed up for me. No one left when I got dxed with a chronic illness either. I'm sorry if you've never had that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:32 PM
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lol, jesus you're delusional about reality. In most peoples case friends are 100% not going to do any of that. Then I guess my friends are better than most people have, and I'm very lucky. Coz mine have done that. Or you've never had real friends. Or women just have better friendships than men do in terms of emotional and physical support and care (and this is an actual factor, fel free to google). But friends and community showing up to help when I'm seriously sick or injured is my reality. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:03 PM
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So what do you say to your partner if they can't get up? "Sorry dear gotta love myself right now, maybe try calling one of your friends or something" lol. I'm not entertaining this weird hypothetical. Scheduling is an actual thing most people do in situations like that. Her mom visited a few times for 2-3 hours tho they still needed my help. Do you expect your friends to quit their jobs to help you? Read the whole thread, I already answered this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:12 AM
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You need an eval, definitely. It could be extreme high functioning depression (apathy is a huge marker of it), you could be a sociopath, you could have extreme alexythemia (not knowing how you feel), it could be a lot of different things. If you want to figure your brain out, go for it. If you're happy like this, then be happy. (as long as it's without hurting others). If you don't feel broken and aren't breaking others, it's your life to live in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:09 AM
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You absolutely are. You're supposed to also love yourself and not work yourself to the bone Coz then you can't care for anyone else, either. And your partner is supposed to love you enough not to want to watch you burnout or be a caretaker as the whole of your life. And you are saying no one else came to help you? Her family didnt visit, her friends? How long was she on bedrest for?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:05 AM
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24/7?no.but when I was in bed for a year during a spinal injury, my friends, family and partners visited, came to help out occasionally, helped me emotionally and supported me through my physical therapy. I'm great now, and I will never forget what real community coming together for me feels like. Other than the basic sorry you went through that, hope you get better soon, I wouldn't really expect anything else from anyone. You have aquaintences, not real friends or community. And you are no one'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:38 AM
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1)its polygyny (one man multiple wives) 2)polygamy (multiple marriages) 3) Polyandry (multiple husbands 4)polyamory-the desire and practice of having more than one committed romantic relationship, with the knowledge and consent of all involved. 5)what you are describing, however, is cheating. And you're assuming legalizing polygamy would stop it. But cheating happens in polygamous societies too. And even if you are married, your spouse doesn't have to leave anything to you or their kids if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:38 AM
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Because if you don't see women as actual people, why on earth would any of us want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:15 AM
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Some of us really, sincerely don't feel anything and in particular are completely indifferent to either social interaction or the existence of other people And many others don't want to date someone like that. If you don't feel "anything" for people how can you feel something for your girlfriend and what is it that you feel? Also apathy towards others can be a trauma response, usually in people who were themselves neglected as kids. And if you don't have friends, if you don't have community or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:09 AM
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Go Google "hypergamy in women" and you'll actually find that the number of hyoergamous women has been steadily dropping for the last hundred years. In the UK, over 80% of women married withing their social class or under. The dudes here aren't representative of most men. They're the ones who struggle and then go to forums like these. And it's easier to blame women's "hypergamy" despite the actual numbers than accept that they are unlikeable for whatever reason. Personally I'm not attracted to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:59 AM

……I mean yeah there are people with no contact with their parents…there are plenty that do…the process of enculturation is not 100% effective….no one is arguing that it is…the question is it is sufficiently effective to grow and maintain itself in a population Why is it so important that your culture survives? Isn't it all US culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:39 PM

Not necessarily. You see how many people go no contact with their parents? Education an options is a better way, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:28 PM

It's not practical at least in the US. It's too late for that even if you started now if it's about a specific culture survi ing in the US. And good on Mexicans for taking their land back. And Islam has far, far more apostates than the numbers show or people think. But when you make it illegal to leave a religion, a s allow honor killings, people tend to keep it quiet. And the conversion rates arent what people think either, as many people, especially in the west, revert quickly. Christianity ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:17 PM

What about if a woman want rich smart children herself and realize that the easiest way for her to get rich smart children is to get a very rich smart man that just pay her. So you're talking about paying a woman 2000k a month to raise your kid for 18 years after IVF? Is she supposed to cover the kids expenses for that money? Just to have your DNA and last name? And surrogacy already exists, I'm confused about what you're asking me. But the man pays. She doesn't have to work. Or we could make ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:14 PM

Say I am smart and I won lots of math competitions. Say I am a financially responsible father. But I don't want to get married. Adoption? Surrogate? Or do you just want to have kids but not do the parenting yourself? You can pay for a nanny I suppose. How do I make women trust me that I will financially support our children? How are you gonna make her trust you like this? What makes you think guys offering money have nothing else to offer? I didn't say guys who have money have nothing else to of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:56 PM

Only if you have nothing else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:35 PM

And there's a good chance that the desire to have kids might partially be genetic. So it would start rising again at some point once those genes are more prevalent (if they fix the resource issue. Many mammillian females stop going into heat when resources are scarce, it would make sense we have a slightly different but simmilar response, just like our oestrus is simillar but different )
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:32 PM

Then we end. If the only way for humanity to survive as a species is to forcibly impregnate it's women, it doesn't deserve to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:28 PM

"Outbreeding" them is not a practical strategy. Assuming their own women don't keep revolting as they are, and they will. And I grew up in both the middle east and the EU. I'm not the person to try the us VS them argument with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:23 PM
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How about all the women who play petty games pitting men against eachother for their ego? I can honestly say the last time I saw this behaviour IRL was back in HS. And I'm bi, been out since I was 14,and dated plenty of women as well as have many female friends. Oh poor me, all the men toiling in the fields, dying in wars and living shitty lives while the women stayed home in safety CHAINED to the kitchen and childbirth." We've had it so rough, men are just BEASTS taming nature and the elements …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:09 AM

Cultures and empires rise and fall, or change and survive, that's just human history . What does it matter as long as the species survives? (specifically in the situation of choosing not to have kids, not genocide or anything violent)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:42 AM

Freedom of choice lowers fertility rates and informed choices do as well. They did an experiment with freshmen in college. Sent a survey at the beggining of a 4h lecture on whether they wanted kids, how many, and whether biological or adopted. Then gave a 4h lecture with a break in the middle on pregnancy, childbirth and the possible long term side effects to health, and sent out the same survey. 15% of the freshmen women changed their answer from wanting bio kids to not wanting any, or wanting …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:36 AM

Or just making being mother a full time paid job untill the child is 6, with a legally mandated freezing of their workplace so they can return to their previous position. (which is already legally mandated in my country when you go on maternity leave)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:28 AM
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Personally, I'd say 25. For military service too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:04 AM
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Sounds territorial AF. But not loving. Sounds like ego. And how many were killed for that ego? Why do men think we want someone who will set the world on fire to save us? We love people in the world. Saving us to destroy us emotionally when we realize the price of our saving isn't loving, not really. But I'm sure the guys felt better after. I wonder if the women wanted them though. Concubines don't get much choice. Neither did women in the past in general, not with men with the actual power to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:42 AM
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No disagreement there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:05 PM
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Tha was the context of the first comment, that you replied to to correct the use of inadequate. I continued the conversation to point out that adequate, inadequate or perfect, its not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:03 PM
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Even if someone is amazing, they aren't owed a date if no one wants to date them. That's not how it works. Why isn't the conversation centered in men finding healthy community, rather than romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:59 PM
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I never said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:08 AM

I can honestly say never. Because neither men nor women are prizes or objects to compete for. If I like someone I let them know. If they choose to go out with me great. If not, that sucks, but it's not a big deal either. I don't see people saying no as a competition. They could have no other options and still say no because they just don't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:05 AM

Lol, I feel like I can imagine a lor of different factors that would make life hard with or without kids. But if you think having kids is so hard, don't have them. It's not a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:03 AM
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And there are many women who can't be on hormonal BC and even for those who can, long term use can have pretty nasty side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:41 AM

I prefer committed polyamorous relationships personally. Been with one partner for 7 years and the other for 4. It's awesome. And 3 incomes in one household with no kids is also awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:28 PM

Pretty sure I have s bigger sample size than you. Plus being a woman myself.. So. I won't take your word for it. Especially since you havent given any argumentation whatsoever. Have a good one .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:16 PM

😂 Sure bud. But as a bi woman, I vehemently disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:14 PM
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Oh goddess... You're right. 🤢🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:14 PM
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I don't get what you mean with this. Almost all societies worked in the past for what they intended to, otherwise they would quickly disappear. They didn't work for women. Women didn't have rights option or respect. They did work as they were intended to, which was control women's reproductive capabilities and sexual freedom. Personally, I'd rather see the human species die out than go back to that BS. Sure, they were unfair to our standards, but our standards are inflated. In a sense, we would …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:04 PM
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Women live now in the most comfortable and equal times ever, Everyone does, but we're still not where we should be on equality alone. And since we put up with a society that didn't work for us for a millenia, a couple of generations of hardship that will give us a better social order aren't that much in the grand scheme of things. But don't worry, women will probably do as good anyway from now on, but they will have challenges as men do as society radically changes after an unnatural long period…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:50 PM
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I terrified he's impregnating women left and right without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:24 PM
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Is yours capable of any arguments but ad hominem?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:14 PM
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We all heard, at least to some extent, guys believe that 80/20 rule is real, I think there is an 80/20 rule. 80% of men can find someone to be in a relationship with, and 20% can't. They are also the demographic who's disproportionately gonna be online complaining about it and befriend each other, so it seems like a much bigger percentage due to confirmation bias and 20% of the male population is not a small number. (tbf, it's probably more like 10% or less who can't actually find a date or rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:58 PM
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I mean people's desires can change. People change. As long as they understand that means it won't be with me, and is still a dealbreaker 6months or 10 years down the road, that's just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:14 PM
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they dont need lesbians for those skills, they need a therapist. Specifically for EQ skills, which both empathy and listening skills are. Just FYI. Men who have been to therapy are more attractive prospects though. And in kink spaces, so are men who took courses on stuff such as rope or suspension, shibari, consent in kink, that kind of thing.. Pleasure doms with good word of mouth also get snatched up quickly. But if you're bad in bed that'll come out very quickly too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:58 AM
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Because it's a dealbreaker for some people and it's fair to know before emotions get involved? I say Im CF on the first date or even before it, sometimes. No point wasting anyone's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:30 AM
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But you also say lesbians are better at pleasing women even in one night stands, so clearly there are skills, that are learnable, that facilitate this. Yeah, they're called listening skills, and the skills of giving a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:04 AM
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Sure, we will get a balance and we will not go extinct, but it will be very very traumatic. How is that different than most of history for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:03 AM
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Because that's my preference. I'm not into traditional men. And because that's the kind of men I see have success in my friend group. But I guessed it would depend on where and with whom. As it always does. Guy B isn't gonna have much luck at a feminist rally. Guy A is probably not gonna have much luck in a sorority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:56 PM
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No, I didn't say any of that. You need to reread my comment. you can learn how to pleasure an individual woman. That takes practice and good communication, but it isn't too hard. You could learn different techniques but not all or even most, will work on every woman. So a class is not the way to go, not really, because the individual's preferences, turn ons, and body is unique and trumps all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:15 PM
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Sure. But not that much more. And queer women still have more casual sex than straight women or straight men. Even if we assume gay men are having as much casual sex as they want to, and straight men would have that much if they could, the question is why straight women want it less than queer women. Which seems to indicate that while testosterone is a factor, it's not as big of a factor as the risks and the rewards or lack thereof are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:50 PM

You should trust yourself more, I dont know which neurodivergence the person you're answering to has, but I'm autistic. 9/10 autistic women will be in an abusive relationship at least once in their life. Because red flags are mostly social cues. Not just what one says or does, but how one says it and does it, and also what they don't say and do. Saying we should trust ourselves more is kinda like telling someone with diabetes that they should rely less on insulin. It doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:00 AM

My friends opinions are irrelevant, they're not the one dating my partner. I will listen if they're worried about me being treated poorly, because friends care, but their appearance or job or whatever? Those opinions are absolutely irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:57 AM
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Would you like to know more about him before deciding on whether or not you want to give him a chance or is your mind already made up with this first piece of information about him? Why or why not? I'd just politely decline. I prefer to do the asking out in the first place. And I'd assume the dude had zero self awareness or was otherwise unsuitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:55 AM

Only if he asks me for help. Otherwise, no. Edit-I am. In charge of our couples costumes for Halloween, but that's because I'm a cosplayer and he's learning. He still has artistic license though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:41 AM
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I care strongly about NOT allowing gender norms into my life, so I guess the argument can be made that I care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:07 AM
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It has its part to play, but more and more women are reporting higher testosterone and men's testosterone levels have been steadily falling for decades. But libido and sexual attraction while they can be connected, don't have to be. You can be hypersexual libido wise, but asexual or demisexual l, which means you're horny, but you don't want to have sex with other people. You can be hypo sexual libido wise and still sexually attracted to multiple people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:49 AM
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Would women line up to have sex with men who took the course? No! I bet most would consider it creepy and actively avoid those men. Because that's just not possible. Women are so different and what gets them off is so different, that all going to a course like that would do is tell a woman the dude knows nothing about female pleasure. It's very individual for starters. Lol. Id assume the poor dude was easily scammable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:47 AM
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Queer men have the most casual sex and that includes bi men. But it's not a hugely bigger amount than queer women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:45 AM
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Heterosexual sex is serious business with serious consequences AKA making babies. Heterosexual sex is also for pleasure and bonding. Especially since birth control exists. Of course people are more willing to play casually than to make serious decisions casually. No one is likely to "play" casually if that play I'd painful or unpleasurable. You're underestimating the importance of the sex actually being good and leading to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:44 AM
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Social stigma and indoctrination into shame is definitely a big part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:42 AM
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I feel the same way about a traditional relationship. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:41 AM
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There’s a vacuum and then there is reality. It’s highly unlikely that the orgasm gap in ONS will ever close because it’s easier for men to reach orgasm than women in PIV sex, and male partners are not invested in the sexual pleasure of strangers like they are in a woman they have romantic feelings about Which is why women will not see casual sex with men as appealing. If out pleasure isn't important what's the point? Especially with all the lovely bzzt bzzt toys these days. It’s also unlikely th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:38 PM
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I don't agree it's biology, personally. Or not solely. I've known too many different men with different responses and from different cultures to think that (I grew up on 2 continents and been to over 50 countries). Nurture has a far bigger role to play than most want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:36 PM
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Actually flip your question on its head to if women would sleep with a man as easily as men will sleep with women if that woman knew there was a 100% chance she would have an orgasm. There's an 85% chance of orgasm in a lesbian ONS for women, and like I said, queer women have more casual sex than straight men. Of course the pregnancy and violence are still a factor. The question would be how big a factor. That would be an interesting study. But we do know bi women are far more likely to agree to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:34 PM
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I don't like wife and husband so I won't be using those to refer to myself or my partners. I prefer partner because that to me sounds like a relationship on equal footing. Husband and wife have both religious and gender role connotations that I don't want in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:31 PM
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Geishas also weren't exactly volonteers or that respected. It's a dark history there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:39 PM
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When a male was asking, there are no women saying yes to sex like that. But that doesn't exist in a vacuum. Women know that casual sex with a ransom man isn't probably gonna make them orgasm. And since casual sex is for pleasure what's the point then? When talking about casual women are much more likely to engage in fwb situations, than ONS or random hookups. Plus the risk of pregnancy and violence from a random man. Queer women have more casual sex with each other than straight men have with st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:35 PM
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Probably coz of her religion or some such subjective BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:31 PM
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Ugh I think cohabitation should be illegal. Why? It only leads to people delaying marriage and then when they finally get married they give up. Sometimes they never get married. Not everyone wants to. Why does this anger you? It's not like it affects your life or relationship. On top of that they view themselves as equal to couples who actually tied the knot and that is just simply untrue. In my country you have all the same legal protection of marriage after living together for 3 years. So lega…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:30 PM
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Women who say it rarely take a man’s last name. And that's your measure of love? Loss of identity? So by that logic, most men don't love their wives since they don't take her name?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:21 PM
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Not everyone wants to get married or believes in the i institution of marriage. You can easily stay with someone your whole life without a piece of paper. Especially in my country where cohabitating for 3 years makes you automatically eligible for civil union, and you have all the same rights as in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:19 PM
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Partner means more to me in a romantic sense than husband/wife (and it's not been used solely in a business sense or even primarily in quite a while) , because a partner is equal and husband and wife are based on outdated societal gender roles, as is marriage as an institution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:16 PM
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And that will crash the economy and make it hard for a generation or two, and then the population would plateau. . It wont lead to extinction or the end of the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:00 AM
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I don't see it as dealing with. Realistically.someone else's sexuality only affects me if I want to sleep with them. And you still aren't forced or obligated to talk to or give the time of day to anyone for whatever reason. And no one is forced or obligated to talk to or give you the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:48 AM
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It's absolutely hilarious. I also make it my solemn duty to make sure my HS students know about it just in case the curriculum skips it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:35 AM
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The point is that we either go extinct or take a radical solution. Urgh, this old BS again. Okay, so if 75% of fertile women today chose not to have kids globally, and the remaining 25% only had one child each, we would still have 15x the number of people necessary for minimum viable population. No one is going extinct. Thats just fear mongering. capitalism would fail, we'd have to restructure society, but we won't go extinct. And the solution I propose is to pay women to be parents untill the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:32 AM
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If refusing to deal with controlling men makes me bigoted, guess I'm a bigot. Feel free to be happy and controlling in your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:24 AM
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women’s biological clocks ticking and the societal/family pressure for them to settle down Mem have bio clocks too. There's a reason erectile issues start around 30. And sperm over 40 has been tied to high risk pregnancies even in women in their 20s and risk to the offspring. Which youngbwomennar3 being warned about. Who wants to have to be a caretaker to an old man in the best years of their life and risk a dangerous pregnancy and a higher likelihood of issues in a kid? The societal and family …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:13 AM
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There is no royal you. There is the royal we. And there is you, and You and the general you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:45 PM
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Wasn't talking about myself. This was a general conversation. I'm not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:08 PM
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What if you're okay with being single rather than lowering your standards? That's an individual's choice, isn't it? Especially with the non physical or non material standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:02 PM
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If you can offer something that is equivalent to that standard, i.e. something that someone that fulfills that standard would want, then you're OK to have that standard. It's about realistic expectations for me. The problem with this is that what an individual wants or would consider equivalent is up to that individual. If you're a smoking hot girl, it's a reasonable expectation that you could bag a rich man. Let's take this one. A rich man might expect to "bag" a smoking hot girl. But if that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:55 PM
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I've always looked at it as if you can't meet your own standards, you're being hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:45 PM
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Great sex with people we want to have sex with is important. Mediocre sex is worse than no sex as far as I'm concerned though. (don't speak for all women) But no woman wants to have sex with someone she isnt attracted to (and neither do men, I think) And sex isn't just for reproduction, and you can reproduce without engaging in sex in today's day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:02 PM
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You said "so much for sex being important" I'm asking you to explain what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:33 PM
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Are you a "high value" dude? To whom? I'm a jacked bodybuilder So? And if you're that jacked, I'm assuming steroids. How's the peen shrinkage as the roid rage going? Lol. And you're saying you're jacked and no one wants to introduce you to anyone and you're still struggling with dating? Wonder why that is. /s. Yeah, are any of these plenty of options in the room with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:02 AM
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The fact you LARP as a hobby tells me all I need to know about you though. Probably overweight 😂 In the EU things are a bit different. We don't have the US's obesity problem. But either way, why would you care? Not like you'd have a shot even if I was obese. And if I was, I'd still have more IRL options than you do skinny. Horrible logic. The amount of women that set guys up with their friends is extraordinarily low but that's besides the fact. Nah, I've set up most of my exes and friends at som…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:54 AM
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So is the assumption that if a guy cold approaches you in public (store, coffee shop etc), he must be doing to that everyone and that alone is off putting? The assumprion is that no woman he actually knows wants to date him or set him up with one of her friends. Also, where exactly do you expect men to meet women if they shouldn't cold approach Same place I meet men and women to date. Through my social circles, my hobbies (LARP, cosplay, tabletop rpgs, boradgame nights at my local geek Cafe).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:41 AM
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Way to tell us you've never been truly desired by a woman if that's your overall experience of sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:23 AM
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Let's get away from the word clingy for a bit. Let's talk about attachment styles. The ideal attachment style is secure attachment. You can also have an anxious attachment, avoidant attachment or disordered attachment (both anxious and avoidant) with people. Now back to "clingy" - it's tied to anxious attachment, constantly needing to check in, constantly needing reassurance, etc and that's a lot of emotional labour to manage for someone especially if the persona has an avoidant attachment style…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:02 AM
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How is it a better choice? So you think its better to be without intimacy so you won't have bad sex? Who said anything about being without intimacy? Not all intimacy is sexual, you know. But if it's sexual intimacy specifically, then yes. It's better to forgo (for me) than be left frustrated and wanting. If I have to finish myself off anyway, might as well do the whole thing myself. I am sure you think men never get bad sex from women, but being self center I highly doubt helps you any. Self cen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:30 AM
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advertising skin care, make up and shit + All the stuff that happens on instagram All those companies owners are men. And their board of directors are mostly menhere ya go "Per the report, more than 65% of executive committee seats in the beauty industry are held by men. Of respondents, 51% have no ethnic diversity on their executive committee and 48% have no ethnic diversity on their board of directors."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:48 AM
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I don't. I think it will have to happen. Women are refusing to have kids, settle down, and are bringing the birthrate to it's knees.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:25 AM
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And honestly with all the neglected and abused kids in the world, not all people should be parents or raising kids in the forest place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:23 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:23 AM
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Oh honey. Here's some information about the female body. To prepare for sex, ar the beggining of arousal starting, the cervix starts rising, the vagina lubricated itself. It can take 20-40 minutes for the cervix to rise completely and the proper wetness be achieved. If one penetrated before that, it is not pleasant for most women. Having an orgasm first, ensures everything is lubricated and the cervix is in proper position. Because hitting the cervix hurts for most women. How the eff women are l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:22 AM
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Importanr to whom and in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:18 AM
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Nope, I'm bi, I don't really care about height. But I am 5'11 and love to wear heels and in my experience (many) dudes really don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:17 AM
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And get rid of viagra. Men have a bio clock too and there's a reason erection issues start after 30 and that sperm banks won't take sperm of someone over the age of 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:16 AM
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My friends and I have joked about getting up and walking to the kitchen immediately after orgasm and sitting down to eat without getting a male partner off. You know, like they do. The best way to figure out if he'll do this that I've found, is to aks when he thinks a round of sex is over. If the answer is when the man orgasms, and not when both are satisfied, that dudes not the guy to have sex with. For real, though, if I’m going to have sex, I’m going to make sure it’s the best my partner has …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:25 AM
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I wasn’t responding to you, Huh, it came up in my notifications. My bad. Now there are three men who expressed disdain or surprise that a woman, too, wants to enjoy sex. Yeah, how dare I? Lol. And this is why I am so happy I'm bi, and have the option of women for sex. But tell a man you'll have sex with him but he won't orgasm 85% of the time or 40% (actual stats for women in hetero sex) and he'd probably riot. Men get a 90-95% orgasm rate. Why would we agree to anything less? I’m easing back in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:10 AM
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What rare condition? Only wanting to participate in good sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:04 AM
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I didn't say foreplay. I said orgasm. The foreplay must include one orgasm for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:51 AM
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No, I need at least one orgasm. Whether that's with toys, fingers, or oral, or sensory play doesn't matter. No orgasm, no PinV sex. Because it hurts before and it doesn't feel good. And if it doesn't feel good I don't get the point of having it or letting someone penetrate me. Sex is meant to feel great. If it doesn't, well, solo toys are better than that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:51 AM
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I don't care what you're imagining but why would anyone want bad or mediocre sex? Like if the choice is between bad sex, and no sex, no sex is the better choice,at least for this woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:47 AM
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With all that said, I do believe there is a difference between a guy going into a school and murdering 30 children or shooting up a concert and killing 80 people at random, and a gang member shooting up a rival gangs BBQ because the rival gang shot up his baby mommas house and hitting two convicted murderers in the leg and accidentally shooting himself in the buttcheek when he stuffed his pistol back into his pants. Aren't kids indoctrinated into gangs, though? You could burn the flag anywhere i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:23 AM
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I'm for abolishing the draft personally. No government should be able to force people to die or kill for a cause they don't believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:45 AM
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We had sex because I thought the date was good and we had chemistry, but he was completely sexually incompatible with me. He didn’t want to touch me anywhere except to put his penis in me, and lasted for 30 seconds. Not even touching my clit is a deal breaker for me. Oh, goddess. I have a rule that no penetration untill I have at least one orgasm. If my sexual pleasure isn't important neither is their's and the sex is not continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:20 AM
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Almost inevitably? They say something vaguely or outright bigoted and when called out on it try to deflect it as a joke. (schrodinger's joke, also see schrodinger's AH) The less common reason? They're a project and I'm not interested in fixer uppers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:15 AM
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The reason it is misleading is because the vast majority of those 550+ mass shootings are retaliatory gang shootings in like 4 or 5 specific neighborhoods. Which has been a problem that has existed but nobody has really gave a damn about for 50+ years, unfortunately. Again.... All of that sounds ridiculously too much for someone who never had gun violence in their country. The ways you try to justify it, or categorize it, doesn't really matter. I can go out and burn the flag of my country in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:58 AM
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It’s perfectly normal for men to want sex, but also not date someone who’s been intimate with large numbers of other people. That’s not a contradiction. All it’s saying is that ideally, you’d have some women that you can fool around with, and a much larger group that are worth potentially marrying. And it's perfectly normal for women who haven't slept with many or any men, to not want men who havenslept around either. No one likes a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:52 AM
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-husband speaks with wife about lack of intimacy. He is told she is exhausted and needs more help around the house (choreplay). Says this would help her. -husband helps more. No change in intimacy results. -husband speaks to wife frustrated and echos his concerns. -wife proceeds to get angry at her husband because he was only helping to get sex, not just to alleviate her stress and needs. I honestly dont understand this one either. Housework won't make you more attractive or me want sex more. La…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:30 AM
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In nature depending on specie (and with a few exceptions) 40%-80% of male mammals never mate before death. The fact that most of our specie's males find mates and procreate is actually really really high compared to other species natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:06 AM
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Unless it's trafficking. Which is why I want to stamp out trafficking. The rest is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:03 AM
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There isn’t a way to solve this issue that doesn’t uniquely impact the woman. She is the one who takes the hit when she gives up her career, even if only temporarily. It’s not always easy to re-enter the workforce after taking a number of years off. Freeze her job posting and pay her the equivalent of her salary for the first 6 years of the kids life (till school). Won't help with advancement but will keep a place waiting for her and pay her to be with the kid. The way society needs kids and com…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:59 AM
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Because people have different approaches to money. If one partner gambles, has debt pre marriage, etc that reverts back to them and their responsibility. Also for disabled people, being married can make them lose their disability, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:56 AM
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Sexual exclusivity=/=commitment. They aren't synonyms 1..commitment- the state or quality of being dedicated to a cause, activity, person, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:54 AM
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I don't. I support sex workers. I do want an overhaul of the industry because of the amount of coercion and trafficking, but I think legalizing it would help with that, as long as the laws were written well and enforced. Remove the need for pimps, require regular testing and condom use, it would be much safer overall I think. But if it is legal, sex workers still get to choose and refuse their clients. It's no guarantee OP would be able to afford it or wouldn't be blacklisted, or just refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:09 AM
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None. We were both older teenagers and still in HS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:32 AM
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Bi polyam woman, 2 male partners currently. Yes, if one of them lost their job, I'd cover for him untill they found one. Hes my partner. Time limit would depend on whether he's actively looking for jobs, how he's behaving at home, etc. Spouse is just a legal thing for me. Partner is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:09 AM
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This is why I don't get this side of the red pill community. They act like there's some social ill occurring because women don't want to fuck them. Yep. "Oh no women have choices and they wont pick meeee" lol. Also, you don't have to be a chad. if you did, I would be a virgin as I'm an average looking socially inept nerd. All you have to do is not be an asshole and you will get laid. Trust me I'm aware. "chads" are not my type. Long haired men with big noses and deep set eyes are my type as far …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:30 AM
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Me too. Drawn porn and erotc literature. No one was harmed in the writing of this smut.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:22 AM
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As a feminist I find it very simple. I support sex workers. I think the industry irself needs a rehaul due to all the trafficking, coercion and rape. So basically, no issues with sex work, as long as it removes pimps, the age for all sexes is 25, and the punishments for coercion and force are not only severe but actually pursued. Legal sex work means we can take care of the health of the sex workers and their clients, the options for sex workers to choose or reject their clients, removes the nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:56 AM
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and only Chad is benefiting the most from it. So? You don't get to tell women what to do with their bodies. If they want to fuck a hundred "chads" but never you, that's their prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:52 AM
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Also the issues with most porn being due to trafficking and the issues within the industry itself. I'm comoletely okay with ethically made porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:50 AM
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You know that with legal prostitution, the sex workers could also choose their own clients and say no to others, right? Even with legal prostitution, doesn't mean everyone would have access to sex. Black lists exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:46 AM
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Glad we could come to a consensus that traditional gender roles were not a prison sentence for women. Oh no we didn't. I violently disagree with you. I just don't think you're worth the discussion. Let me be perfectly clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:27 PM
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The gun violence statistics in the US are pretty bad by the standards of the developed world, but still below the global average. Is the US part of the developed world? Then it should be compared to developed countries. Sweet heck, it makes no sense to do so. "I weigh 110kg but I'll go fight with the lightweights". Also, it’s important to note that demographics change the stats considerably. Non-Hispanic whites in the US are no more likely to be murdered, with a gun or otherwise, than their Euro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:26 PM
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I would consider that a mass shooting, but we have no gun violence where I am. So I'm biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:22 PM
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Care to respond to the other 90% or are you just going to cherry pick in a sad attempt to invalidate the entire argument through one small part of it After reading what you provided as "proof", no, I don't really want to continue this discussion. You should know a sample size of 324, of a specific university would have inherent bias based on the culture of that self same university. And if you want to claim majority anything, it should be with a metastudy. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:20 PM
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And what's the stat on gun crime in general? My country has had one gun related crime in the last decade and that was a huge deal.To me, all gun violence sounds insane. And I shoot for sport (target, not animals)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:11 PM
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Rare as hell? 565 this year on October 26 in the US. More shootings then there are days. Rare is the countries that have never had them, or had one and fixed the issue. The US has a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:44 PM
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Statistically over 80 percent of women want traditional gender roles so I have no idea what you are talking about Source. Where do 80% of women want traditional gender norms? Coz I think you pulled that "stat" out of your butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:31 PM
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Goddess, you lot like to tell yourself fantasies. We had to do it to survive. We had no other options. Even a gilded cage is a cage. And if it came naturally to us and we loved it so much, we wouldn't have fought to end it. Women have choices now. And the traditional life is pretty much becoming less desirable by the year. If it had been natural to us, we wouldn't have to be told and reminded by men, religion, and forced on pain of death to obey. Nature doesn't need any of that. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:15 AM

I can't help but notice that the 'social contract' is basically built on the idea that women can only focus on what's in their favour but as soon as they get the short end of the stick so to speak, they demand cooperation. Can you be specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:37 PM

As thought it's impossible to join a female.dominated group hobby like a sewing class (which is a useful skill). Or LARPing. Or a language class, or a dozen other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:13 PM

Culture and socialization profoundly impact our sexuality. Thus, a culture can aim at high pairing rates if it decides this is a good thing, and there are ways to try to make such pairing rates real without coercing people into being with partners they do not find attractive. There are potential win wins. Stuff like body positivity and laws on filters on adds and that kind of stuff? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:02 AM

It is unclear how much anyone HATES sex workers. But not wanting to date or wife one up is nothing new. Lots of obvious reasons for that. You don't have to date or wife anyone up. Everyone, male or female, can be guilty of overestimating their attractiveness ranking. But in general, men want enthusiastic sex and intimacy with a woman whose attractiveness rank among women is roughly equal to the man's rank among men. And women get to have any standards they want. If that means they remain single,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:27 AM

Then what do you think the reason is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:01 AM
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I'm very left wing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:41 AM
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Magically? Zero. With effort and some research to look into the right places for themselves? Absolutely possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:31 AM

Except sex isn't given away. It's shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:16 AM

Because (some) men hate that they have to pay for something they feel entitled to. And they hate that they're willing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:15 AM
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Back in the day the reason to commit was you got a virgin wife that cooked cleaned and followed your instructions. Basically a domestic and sex slave, ahh the good old days /s Men don't have to commit. Men don't have to be in relationships. Men are not obligated to provide for anyone if they don't want to. Just as women don't have to get married and serve in the home and pop out babies, neither do men need to adhere to their respective gender roles. They aren't law anymore. If you want childsupp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:49 PM
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The US population never supported most of these laws until it was forced on the following generation in their formative years. I'm not in the US. Women are constantly told to not be women by a few mentally off ones intent on destroying western society. Weird, when I was around 4ish (24 years ago) I remember barbies and prams an dolls being shoved at me when I had zero interest in them. I remember being told what was "ladylike" and thinking "well, I don't want to be a lady then, that's dumb". And…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:16 PM
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That doesn’t answer the question of how you plan to filter the women and how much time you’re willing to invest into it. An hour or so a day I guess? I mean it's a hypothetical and it would probably go up and down depending on schedule. And it's not like men get a huge amount of matches to filter out from in general. Such as what? He finds women sexually attractive and possibly takes risk or says stupid things sometimes? He thinks pick up lines are acceptable and he has poor impulse control and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:30 AM
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Sorry if your brain can't keep up, this seemed pretty straightforward to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:33 AM
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Technically you're in a relationship if you both agree to be in one and it ends when (at least) one party withdraws consent to that. You can legally marry someone you've known for an hour. There's no time constraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:25 AM
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You say you’ve never used dating apps so tell me how you believe you would filter out these women and how much time you’d be willing to invest into it? I helped.anu of my friends set up their profiles to get more matches. And I'm. Willing to invest a lot in my friends. It's just not my preferred tactic for meeting people. And I wrote a research paper on dating apps for my sociology class in UNI. And what if it’s just a risky pick up line or a drunk text asking if she wants to hook up? That says …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:18 AM
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As a woman who doesn't use dating apps at all, I'd try that one. Why in the world would this guys female friend, waste time going through the numerous generic messages that he would be sent, when she's got her own life? Because I love my friends and want them to be happy. I also know their types pretty well and would filter out based on that. Let's say you make it past that stage and do in fact talk to the man and there's something about him you don't like, so you go to the 'endorser' to expose …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:07 AM
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No, we don't all have same brain difference. But there are some overall patterns, and then the individual themselves has their patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:07 AM
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The human libido is a driver that. can be completely managed by the self (masturbation). And since you are responsible for your own health, that works out great.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:06 AM
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It's nonsense. There's no way autistic women outnumber autistic men. Based on what exactly? Id argue the opposite. Autism is a "trendy" diagnosis that's safe, BS. My country literally has a 2 year waiting list from the adult diagnosis center, and our numbers are jumping. But that's what happens when you don't need to pay for a diagnosis or have an insurance something sign off on it. People can afford to get tested. They're actually going to the post grade psych students to ask them to specialize…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:01 AM
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Conservatism is the natural state of being. If thar was true, women wouldn't need to constantly be told what their nature was by men, religion and other, less savory methods of compliance. If it was nature we wouldn't think about it. It would be like breathing. Instead the idea of a traditional life fills me with literal revulsion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:54 AM
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Move to a red state then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:52 AM
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But i believe men have have s higher threshold in being more desirable as a partner Can you explain what you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:55 PM

And in nature, threatening violence to get your way is extremely common. For both sexes. Look at hyenas. If you want men to keep their shitty natural instincts in check, you should consider requiring the same of women So rape is men's natural instinct? If that's true, maybe they have no place in civilized society. (I don't think its true though). And someone not wanting to fuck you isn't directly hurting you. That's bodily autonomy and agency at work. Someone raping you is someone directly causi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:42 PM
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A man may prefer a dead bedroom than to be separated from his little kids most of the week. Thats what joint custody is for. Ending a relationship with a spouse does not mean ending the relationship you have with your kids. Or it shouldn't. A woman may prefer a husband that no longer loves her but gives her a comfortable lifestyle. This is very common if the guy is very high class. A woman may, I suppose. But only if she doesn't have resources or money of her own. Which is why every woman should…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:00 PM
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Thus, pair bonding and forms of serial monogamy were an adaptation to that need. The reproductive success rates from the stone age do not necessarily mean women were that selective as other factors such as male deaths hunting and in conflict played a large role How does this fit into community raising of children back when the fathers weren't necessarily known?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:28 AM
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The male sexual inclusion rate is a complex topic. But to set parameters, I think we can all agree that if women only slept with say 10% of men, and 90% of men never touched a woman, we'd have problems? Not saying that is remotely probable, but just to ground us a bit. So some level of male sexual exclusion is a problem--what level? What level is 'natural' for women? Open questions. In nature 40%-80% of male mammals (depending on specie and with exceptions) don't mate before they die. That is li…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:10 AM
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tl;dr If we are going to accept serial monogamy, then we should be looking for social architectures that allow for such mate swapping without damaging the children In general the nuclear family isn't the most successful model to raise children in, so we definitely need to change the way we view raising kids. Personally I'm for paying the parents a universal basic income untill the child is 6 and in school at which point they can return to the workforce. Furthermore, one needs to find a way to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:51 AM
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No mammal's behavior can truly be studied in captivity. That includes humans. Before women could get their own resources, their own bank accounts, property, etc, they were in captivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:58 AM
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Isn't the inverse true of average women and men though?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:32 AM
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Actually, I think it's the equivalent of a man thinking money will get him women, and then being mad that the women interested are gold diggers after his money
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:34 AM
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Food is necessary for survival. Sex and a relationship is not. Food should be a human right. Sex can not be a human right, as it depends on another's agency and bodily autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:52 AM
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For me, I've always loved beautiful men. I don't consider kpop feminine because Asian beauty standards aren't western ones. But I definitely think Asian beauty standards for men are soo much better than western. (this is of course, just my personal preference) As far as LOTR goes, it's Elrond for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:48 AM
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Not in my experience. Maybe you don't have enough autistic people in your life to notice the patterns. Me personally, I have one allistic in my life, everyone else is autistic, adhd or both. I also work with adhd and ASD kids. For me, it's a whole damn lot easier than dealing with allistics. Sorry if that's not your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:45 AM
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You personally may not, but you see how women modify their bodies in dangerous surgeries, consider terrible diets, and inject themselves stuff just to be attractive to 20% of top men. Of course, mathematically it is impossible for those women to get those men, and age is against them. By that logic it's mathematically impossible for most men to get women and they should give up going to the gym, or bothering women all together. Choose an abusive man? Choose a man with infinite options that treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:43 AM
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I still don't agree that sexual desire is inherently objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:00 PM
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As a woman, same. Being single doesn't mean being alone or lonely. And nothing is lonelier than feeling alone in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:54 PM
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I don't want kids. But I don't see how engaging in mutually desired sex is objectifying. Do you see the person you're having sex with as just there for your pleasure or something? I'm honestly not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:40 PM
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I dont think theres a real difference. Wanting sex is inherently objectifying. Sex is an objective, the act itself, and the other persons body is the object. No it's not. Sex is an activity people engage in together for mutual pleasure, connection and sometimes procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:20 PM
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Consent is key. You're allowed to objectify yourself. You're allowed to consent to objectification. It's the difference between sending someone a nude pic and having it leaked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:19 PM
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Not a great script written to portray an image when they somehow have forgotten to include both hosts rated as attractive But a great way to make people think the "ratings" are realistic and give weight that women don't like good guys, isn't it? Seems to have worked on you. The scam is not tricking people into thinking women are attracted to them. They are. The scam is them telling you that you can do the same. It's both. They need to sell the image of success to be listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:31 PM
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And he’s the nice guy of the two from what I’ve seen. But the main host getting called attractive consistently by multiple women he just got finished disrespecting and screaming at doesn’t count? No, because PUA and the like are scammers. They have an image to sell. You realize this yes? It's social media, not data. Do we need a survey of a significant size of the global population to decide if women find someone attractive? If we want to claim majority or generalizations then yes. Because again…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:46 PM
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I mean, some women go after serial killers. 2% of the global population is still an insanely large number. I'm sure some women find them attractive. I also think those women probably need to work on loving themselves. Yet the women give Fit high ratings like 7/8-10 and call him attractive. Fresh tho did get trashed and gets 3-10. Since they pick the women and film it themselves I'm not sure if one can actually call that a sample size either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:32 PM
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They never consider this option, no matter how much we try to tell them. It's funny at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:29 PM

And the law in my country ensures abortion rights for women. And if they tried to change that, the protests would not be peaceful. And the law has ever stopped women getting abortions one way or another. Just women getting safe ones. AntiAbortion laws kill far more people that legal abortion does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:58 AM

This
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:46 AM
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But if a woman is high libido, she will usually still prefer to have one partner and have lots of sex with him every day rather than sex with a different man every night. The orgasm gap and the risks associated with hetero sex. A woman only has a 15% chance of orgasm in a one night stand with a man. So once you find one who can actually get you off, you want to keep him around. Plus if you get pregnant it makes sense to want to know who with. Less risk of STIs which can affect a woman's reproduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:12 AM

Not everyone--including many women--sees pregnancy as torture and the fetus as a parasite. Them not seeing it as one doesn't change he fact a fetus has to release the same compounds as a parasite not to be expelled by the host body or that it feeds off of the host's body. And we aren't speaking about wanted pregnancies, but unwanted pregnancies specifically. Stay on topic. forced pregnancies are torture. Not desired and wanted pregnancies. Many people have more positive views on reproduction and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:55 AM

I never go without cuddles. That's what friends are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:30 AM

So my women hating views are abortion shouldn't be allowed except in certain cases. And the Republicans politicians view is ban abortion in all cases. Also rollback no fault divorce, gut workplace gender discrimination laws. Also maybe ban onlyfans while we're at it. And the child labour laws that are getting changed in some states. They want to force women to birth children so they can use them for cheap labour. I disagree with you on the abortion though. It is woman hating to force a woman to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:17 AM

There's nothing lonelier than having to be someone you're not to have someone in your life. Because you know deep down that it's not you they love. Just the version of you going against your nature. Nah, being single doesn't have to equate to lonely, that's what friends and family are for. But being lonely in a relationship is far far worse than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:37 AM
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Oh eww. No. Women are complete, full messy human beings with personalities and wills of their own. Not some statue you put on a pedestal and dehumanize.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:33 AM
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L rizz?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:32 AM
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I'm sure I'll get shit on for it here, but I think a lot of men don't have much going for themselves, so they have to push hard into being that traditional breadwinner type. I agree with this. If you don't have developed EQ skills, you aren't bringing support, nurture or healthy conflict resolution or communication skills to the table all you can bring is material resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:31 AM
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I (30 F) was taught the one who invites and picks the venue pays because they chose the price range by choosing the venue. This made sense to me, so you don't put a person in an awkward position of going above their budget. That's usually me because I prefer to do the asking out regardless of gender (it's just always made more sense to me to ask 9jt people based on my standards and preferences, than pick from a preselected group of people choosing based on theirs) . But at most I will split the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:29 AM
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Autistic women are more similar to non-autistic men that to autistic men Actually this is a slight misunderstanding. Autistic women socialize more like allistic men than autistic men due to how we are raised. But we still have autism and our brains work more like autistic men's than allistic mens. Just not how we socialize.. Autistic women have comparable social skills to allistic men. But social skills aren't the only aspect autism affects. There's also no way autistic women outnumber autistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:48 AM
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To be used as meatgrinders in wars, When was the last time you signed an anti-draft petition? slaves of corporation, Or for labour laws? Or unions? And women work for corporation too, you know. money cows for whoring single moms and politicians Your misogyny is showing. You get to choose where your money goes you know. Don't be mad if you spent it where you didn't want to. It would be like me complaining I spent too much money on craft supplies. Unless someone had a knife or gun to you, you deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:44 AM

Used to be. Same way having a job used to be all you needed to get a wife. And as for the best tasting foods that's subjective. I don't like white bread personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:34 PM
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Never heard any of that, honestly. Like I've been rejected, which isn't a big deal, but I haven't experienced anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:15 AM
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Sure they are, but why are you encountering so many?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:07 AM
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Only if you think being autistic is an insult. Which I don't, personally. And I was only addressing your incredulity at the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:50 AM
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As someone who is diagnosed and works with ASD and adhd kids, I wouldn't be surprised if it was as much as 15% of the population. It's genetic and very hereditary. The number of parents who only get diagnosed once their kid does is pretty damn high. There's a 2 year wating list in my country for adult testing, and a year an a half for kids. The more of us survive and have kids the more of us there'll be. And autistic women are more likely to be level 1 than 3 and end up having kids. Especially s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:45 AM
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and men are more likely to be autistic, but it also affects women. Ooof. That's not quite true. There's a lot more diagnosed autistic men, because men get diagnosed by 18 on average and women by 30. And women couldn't even be diagnosed in fairly recent history. The tldr is that the ratios are anything from 4:2 men to women, to 1:1 men to women or even once I saw an estimate 4:3 women to men. I do thing it affects men a little more because men have to be more active in their pursue of women, I ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:39 AM
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Both. We need to complement each other, but share the same core values and principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:01 AM
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As long as I don't have any wife or daughter, I will not care. It is not that I hate women, the issue is that I cannot care about every issue. I'll care about my current reality, such as saving money, my mom, siblings, etc. That says more about you than anything else. Also, if women treat most men as trash, I don't think those men have any moral or emotional reason to feel compelled to sacrifice themselves or intervene for them. Again, it's not supposed to be for them. (women). But if you feel n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:10 AM
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No? Because I've yet to meet a black pill person who doesn't loathe themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:28 AM
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Because autistic women socialize more like allistic men than either allistic women or autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:27 AM
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That's the old ratio. Women have been getting steadily diagnosed in the last 6 years. The estimated ratio now is anything from 4:3 to even 1:1 to even once I say 4:3 women to men. That's what happens when you don't think women can have a condition for decades. They don't get diagnosed. And as an autistic woman who prefers to date within her neurotype, dating within it only means you don't have to deal with the double empathy blind issue. It doesn't guarantee compatibility. Just like no 2 allisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:24 AM
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I always wonder if NTs realize their inherent social model is as offputting to us as ours is to theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:18 AM
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Actually, most red flags are social cues. So in fact, they can make you not attractive to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:17 AM
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However, women still prefer hyper-masculine men over feminine men. Source? Coz give me a pretty feminine man any day of the week. I'd rather never have another orgasm than date a hypermasculine man though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:16 AM
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I'm autistic and so is my male partner. I also work with autistic kids and their parents. The autistic men that I wouldn't talk to for more than 5 minutes were hypermasculine and into "alpha" bs and red pulled rhetoric. They just weren't as aware of the subtext as allistic men and didn't figure out they were suppose to hide that from women. So they become easy to avoid in a very wide berth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:15 AM
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Then they are attracted to that person. Looks aren't everything, but they are a part. And being attracted to the person is kinda important to want to have sex with the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:49 AM
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I'm an autistic man and I've been rejected so many times in person that I see ever having a relationship as an impossibility now, but that doesn't mean I'll ever stop trying. Isn't that the definition of insanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:48 AM
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No, at the bottom you have predators, liars and manipulators, and at the top you have people with principles. I hope your gf figures that put and find someine who is better than rock bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:47 AM
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As an autistic woman I've never had a problem dating. Or making friends. I bet you have though. You seem extremely unlikeable. And hypocritical. And ", normal* doesn't equal better. Just majority. That's a non argument. Put some effort into your abelism for godess' sake. This is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:44 AM
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Men don't care about physical attractiveness as women are. Men can and will lower their physical standards, especially average men who know what crippling loneliness is and who knows that eliminating certain groups of women will do nothing but lower their chances ro have a family. So men are desperate and will settle. OK. That's their choice. Of he gets loyalty, peace, emotional support, family, a best friend, etc, then it's all worth it to have a woman who is slightly ugly and fat but a wonderf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:42 AM
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what’s you’re arguing for is complete neoliberal deregulation, a free market that will, like every other free market left unchecked, Women aren't a product. We're autonomous human beings who make our own choices. We are under no obligation to be "fair" in how we pick who we'll date or fuck. You seem very confused about the nature of the situation. inevitably produce immense inequalities: men who have sex frequently with several different women those who never have sex despite trying And? Why is …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:38 AM
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He will never really love you. Or himself. He will turn everyrhing he touches to misery, because the person he loathes the most is himself. And anyone who loves him has to be equally worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:33 AM
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Then don't expect us to be willing to adapt to the allistic one. It tends to be hypocritical to expect others to do what you aren't willing to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:31 AM
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You think being on a ralrionshopp magical precludes you from using someone? Thtats not how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:29 AM
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What have you been doing that the majority of women treat you poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:28 AM
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Well, that kinda sucks. Coz that's not i your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:28 AM
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So if someone enters a relationship every other week it's fine? BS
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:27 AM
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Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:26 AM
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Humans survived by cooperation and compassion. And if you're being "nice"for an advantage, you aren't being nice, you're being manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:24 AM
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And this is why even autistic women don't want to date most autistic men. And why we watch PUA strategies to avoid the men who use them. PUA are morally bankrupt and horrible people. You're literally using dark psychology to get someone and harming their psyche in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:55 AM
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Would you be willing to adapt to the inherent autistic social model?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:52 AM
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Because they become violent and apathetic towards society . But the solution to that isn't *giving them" women to be violent to instead. Being coerced to date men we don't want to for the "good of society" is not an option women are gojng to agree to again. Weve been there and done that historically, and we hated it. We're not doing it again. And we're half of society. It's therapy and raising everyone to understand that no one owes you a relationship. Decentralizing romantic relationships from …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:49 AM
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Except that as an autistic woman I can tell you even we don't want to be around blackpilled men, autistic or otherwise. Neither do allistic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:44 AM
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The real advice is 'don't be autistic.' if you're a guy in dating. And if you can't be that, it's 'be less autistic.' as shitty as that is. I am autistic (30f). So is my male partner. (35m) And I work with ASD and adhd kids as a support role. I have one NT friend, everyone else is ND. So basically my whole life is full of autistic men, women, enbies and kids. It's also my special interest. What I reccomend (for both girls and boys) is specific therapy for developing EQ skills. Which isnt masking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:36 AM
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I'm aware not all women say this, but I hear it enough: women complaining that other men often don't step up to defend them from something other man is being uncomfortable to her, even if the innocent guy has nothing to do with that woman... as if risking your own life would be preferible to her inconvenience. And yet women step in all the time in dangerous situations with men. Guess that means we're the natural "protectors" and men are actually just territorial. They protect what they perceive …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:49 AM
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Hence they'd rather get fucked and chucked by good looking chuck than made love to and their sensual needs attended to by plain face steve. And you're all salty that women have that option and don't pick plain face Steve (which I assume is you) They care that the man they are fucking is better than them. That's what drives you wild. That's what gets you off. You don't get to tell me what gets me off, silly. And I bet I've gotten more women off then you have as well. But really, like I said, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:31 AM
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For instance, promoting a broader range of male phenotypes as attractive. You know akin to the body positivity movement for women. Which is also by women. No one's stopping you guys from starting your own movement. And women already find skinny guys hot, chubby guys hot, dad bods hot... Not all women have the same preferences. And looking good isn't the end all be all of getting chosen to be with. Women have plenty of reasons to lower their standards such as tolerating shitty and abusive behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:58 AM
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So why aren't more men ethically polyamorous? That's an option these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:45 AM
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I don't think it's worth discussing with him. He thinks all men are just like he is because it let's him ignore how bad he is and how emotionally stunted. I know plenty of men who aren't sex obbssessed or desperate. But women actually like those men, so I guess the desperation never comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:44 AM
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You know asexual and demisexual men exist? Honestly we women should only date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:43 AM
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The human libido is a biological driver that can be completely sated by the self in our species. (masturbation). Men "getting desperate to fullfill" that desire (not need) is rape apologist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:42 AM
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I honestly think body count is a specifically US thing. I have never been asked that in my 30 years on this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:38 AM
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What is so dirty and rotten about men that them sleeping with a woman tarnishes her? And if it truly does exist, why should women ever have sex with any men? If sleeping with a man is so damaging and disgusting and lowers a woman's value, then we should just all procreate via turkey baster methods and have no sexual congress with men, ever. To keep ourselves "pure". Like I swear, you all really have a low view of men and yourselves while simultaneously holding ridiculous double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:37 AM
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Nice is the white bread of personality traits. Everyone should be nice. We tell toddlers to be nice, ffs. It's basic human decency, not a replacement for an actual personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:12 AM
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but he could make any woman very happy with his kindness and loyalty. Do you think women are happy having sex with people they aren't attracted to? Are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:11 AM
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Men have it way tougher in dating There's also no solution to this issue. You can't force women (or a man or an enby) to want to date or have sex with you if they don't want to. We have names and laws around that. Women are not gonna lower our standards. We have no reason to. For us being single is preferable to being in a mediocre or bad relationship. So why would we choose to settle? It's just not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:09 AM
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It's a fantasy to think my gender as a whole would stop asking women out and turn the tables on the whole situation. It will never happen. So is thinking my gender will collectively lower our standards when being single is preferable to settling for us. And yet...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:02 AM
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Who said there wouldn't be romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:59 AM
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I was speaking for myself. You don't get to speak for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:58 AM
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So you can't be happy single for the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:58 AM
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Not just her. I ask many older women if they would have gotten married and had kids if they were born today. Quite a few say no. And more women regret becoming mothers and wives than regret getting abortions. There's data on that, feel free to Google. Plus single child free women are a happier demographic than married women with kids. Feel free to Google that too. But honestly my husband could have been Tom Hiddleston a d if it was forced i would still resent and hate him. If you don't have a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:56 AM
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Or... we actually talk to the old women in our family. "never share a bank account, always have your own income, and divorce is better than a bad marriage, because you're stuck in a marriage". My greatgrandma knew. He had to die before she was free. But she lived another 30 very happy years without him. There were plenty of happily married women throughout history who had caring husbands that provided a stable life for them. And a gilded cage is still a cage. I prefer the choice, thanks. And my …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:03 PM
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I pay someone else to do it actually. But if I didn't, I wouldn't cohabitate with anyone who expected me to do the bulk of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:46 PM
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I don't see you as a human being because I suggested you don't adhere to social norms that don't work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:45 PM
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You don't need all. You need most. Conservative women are in the minority now. And so modern dating standards prevail.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:44 PM
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I mean, if men en masse stopped asking women out, women would need to ask men out if they wanted to date someone. (and they were straight). You could flip this social norm if you wanted. That said, a lot of men seem to think they'll die alone regardless if they approach or not. & the approaching and rejection seems to be harming their mental health. You know happiness can be found in many aspects of life, not just romance, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:48 PM
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Being a virgin isn't a big deal. But the black pilled attidute that tends to come with it is a huge deal. So I don't think women should be criticizing men for not being in relationships when they themselves have never had to put in any effort to get one. It's sort of like a rich kid who's born into a wealthy family making fun of the poor kid. As a bi woman who prefers to do the asking out of all genders, you know social norms aren't laws, right? If approaching is so hard for men and you don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:29 PM

In the west and first world countries women were never forced to marry. You need to pick up a recent history book. Seriously. And girls are still being forced to marry in the west today. start here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:27 PM
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Please do. I love how quiet they get when you give them the actual numbers. So loud and sure before, and then... Crickets. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:05 PM
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Women organize and manage those groups. No men are allowed so shared rooms wouldn't be a thing. Whats stopping men from organizing all guy trips? Like if you want something to exist, you need to put in the effort to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:03 PM

So women are perfect humans and all men bad. I never said that. There are wonderful men in the world. I know several. Women have always had the option to not marry. 😂😂😂😂 Sure they did. You need to research the history of marriage. The ignorance is astounding and would be hilarious if it wasn't alarming. Women don't even have the right not to marry and survive in parts of the world today. And even in the US child brides are legal in half the states with parental consent. As early as 14. You think…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:01 PM
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and here here and here And they could have the best of both worlds by freezing their sperm before 30,which is much cheaper than doing the same with egg cells. And the pressure will be the same, when all women know that older sperm risks their bodies even if they are in their 20s. Who wants to have to be a caretaker for a child and an old man in the best years of their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:09 AM
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Far more women date up than men dating up not even close in comparison. Most marriages are equal though. How much more? Give me the numbers. But wonen who are low socioeconomic status marry up quite easily, men who are low economic status get tossed aside unless they are good looking. Because men of a high socioeconomic status date ugly women of low socioeconomic status huh? (sarcastic question) Sugar babies are also all ugly too. (also sarcasm) Ugly low economic status men marry their hand. (wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:20 AM
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Most people marry within their socioeconomic class, regardless of gender. Some women date up. Some men do too. And millennial women are outbuying millennial men as far as property goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:14 AM
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it would not only be very illogical from a financial standpoint, it would also massively shrink the pool of women i am interested in to begin with. Its financially illogical from a woman's standpoint too. And all standards shrink your dating pool. That's what they're supposed to do. If you want a certain lifestyle, go for it. If you don't, don't complain about not getting it. Or argue that it's so much better to people who don't want it. It makes you look like a snake oil salesman. why shouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:28 AM
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career focused men and women is that men's biological clock doesn't tick as fast sperm quality starts dropping at 30. Sperm over 40 has been linked to issues in the offspring and high risk pregnancies for even mothers in their 20s. Male fertility has dropped more rapidly than female fertility as well in the last 50 years. Just because men can get it up with the help of a pill, doesn't mean that there wasn't a reason erectile dysfunction issues start increasing past 30. And since most people marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:54 AM
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So look for one who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:35 AM
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Because id rather be paid for my labour 8-10h a day then do unpaid labour 24/7. Paid labour has bought me a house, pays for a catering and cleaning service so I don't have to do that, buys me supplies for my hobbies and supplies for my workshop, and gives me financial independence and stability, let's me travel (been to 56 countries on 3 continents so far) eat healthy, save and indulge my desires. How exactly is being the SAHP better? And Why don't men want to be the SAHP if it's so much better …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:34 AM
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The reality is that it makes no sense for men to stay as 'friend' with a woman he likes for a relationship. For instance, she will get a boyfriend and he will be jealous. If you get a girlfriend, your female friend will also cause problems and your gf will likely expect such friendship to end, or to be very limited. In both cases, it is a loss, so men simply accelerate the process to save time and emotional load. So... Men are incapable of processing rejection and moving on from a crush while st…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:40 PM
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I'm agreeing with you. I'd argue the point refers to the argument I made. And refers to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:03 PM
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If you can live a happy life alone - you become a more interesting partner. But again, if you see it as yet another way of finding a women - you still don't understand the idea and you will fail. As a woman, I'd argue that if you can't be happy alone, being in a relationship isn't going to change that, and is in fact gonna stress the relationship to the breaking point if you pin all your hopes for happiness on it. You should be happy or at least content in multiple areas of your life. A relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:57 PM
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It's the person who isn't sure about investing more's sole responsibility. Ahh I misunderstood this one. So you read this hypothetical one wants more for sure and the other isn't sure? Well the unsure one still needs to decide but Id generally advise the other person not to date someone whose unsure in the first place. I don't think settling is healthy for anyone and I think being settled for is worse. But the unsure person is resolponsible for sharing that and being honest about it. The sure pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:50 AM
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No. I don't get "crushes" on my friends. People who I want to fuck are filtered away from the "friends" bucket from the start. So you can't be friends with people you're attracted to. Then that's up to you to manage, not other people. I have zero issues managing my emotions and that includes attraction or even being in love with someone. I can still be their friend. So I'm not going to assume others can't do that too. Then if women have unrequited feelings and can't handle just being someone's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:55 AM

Pretty much how I see it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:40 AM
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And to be a friendship it requires one party not having unrequited feelings, You've never had a crush on a friend been rejected and stayed friends and the crush went away? So you view your friends as disposable if you get an unrequited crush on them? And if you have unrequited feelings and can't handle being someone's friend, it's up to you to end that association. Not the other person. Do you have no autonomy? Deliberately leading a man on (ie manipulating his feelings) voids that. Sure. But sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:05 AM
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Nope. Which is why they're lonely. You need real community not to be lonely. You can have a partner but it won't be enough. Humans are social animals. But because of how (many) men befriend people, and the surface level of their friendships, they feel lonely and isolated. Its also why they think the friend one even exists. We women base our friendships on emotional support. All of them. On doing things for each other. Supporting each other. For many guys that's considered bf perks only.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:43 AM
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Ahh yes, with the orgasm gap (most) hetero sex is a great reward for women. 15% in an ONS with a dude. Risk pregnancy, sti.... Or use the bzzzt bzzt toy that carries 0 risk and 100% guarantee of orgasm? Wonder which ones better?/s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:41 AM
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In order for it to be consensual it needs to be informed consent. Deliberately lying or manipulating voids that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:38 AM
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But to me this is no different than women using men as their penpal/surrogate bf which is just as if not more common. Why do I have this weird feeling you're just thinking of friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:37 AM
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It has been brought up here a few times, how some guys are forced to seek out relationships in order to have access to sex, unlike other guys, and that some of these guys might not be the relationship type, but are forced to be. They aren't. Being single and not having sex is always an option. I don't feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for the women they're lying to to get it. Because lying and manipulation are never okay in a relationship and that's what theirs is built on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:28 AM
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Yes I would. I meet all my own standards. I'd also date the same sex version of me, since I'm bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 05:16 AM
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I heard men swipe right on everyone. I personally don't use dating apps. Tried one, it was a cesspit, and I've never had trouble dating IRL so I just deleted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:45 PM
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I'm bisexual. It's not news. And what does that have to do with travel groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:40 PM
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There's literally all women travel groups where I am. They post the dates and itinerary and you sign up and pay for your share. You have the option of a single room or shared and you can choose who you share with or they can asugn you with someone. It's cheaper coz it's a group trip. Ive seen women from 20s-60s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:58 PM
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My dad almost disowned me at one point for my life choices. If he'd gone through with it I would have been fine because I was already living alone and financially independent. He was bluffing though and I called it. My mom is amazing though. But yes, support makes all the difference. Is there a local autistic support group you can maybe go to? You can find them on social media usually or the meetup app, or through local organizations. You're 30, your parents aren't privy to your medical informat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:53 PM
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Seriously, if we both have autism, what the difference? I’m just so confused all the time. Why can everyone else do this but I can’t? Not everyone can do it. Not without support anyway. I had a lot of support. I struggled with other peoples boundaries in HS. My mom sat me down and explain thoroughly why that wasn't okay. She literally gave me ethics texts to read and summarize. My allistic partner is my HS best friend. Our relationship always worked because we just accepted what the other said a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:36 PM
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I never said it was easy for everyone. I shared my personal experience. Which was far from easy. I literally said I found it hard, not impossible. And it's probably so hard for you because you can read a comment about how I literally put myself in danger due to my autism and got hurt (and it was bad) and still think "at least she dated" and answer with an caps lock shout fest of how no one wants to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:16 PM
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As an autistic woman, I've found it hard but not impossible. The hard part was figuring out my sexuality(bi and demi) , what worked for me (knowing someone for a while first I don't feel sexual attraction without an emotional connection) and my insanely high gullibility when I was younger. I had zero knowledge of understanding what were red flags (coz many red flags are social cues, yaaay/s) and because I was waay too trusting. I got hurt badly back then. Pretty common apparently. 9/10 autistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:01 PM
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Part of me acknowledges that the dating scene can get dangerous for women, Here's a social experiment for you. Create a catfish tinder account as a woman. Swipe right on all the guys. See what kind of messages you get. As far as the "too high" number goes. Say no to sex when they ask or a date. Then wait for their reaction. because if numbers were that high, going out on dates would happen way less for both genders. Do you have any comment on that? It is getting less and less. Why do you think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:36 PM
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What are the actual specific hardships average woman face in terms of finding a mate and navigating life in general? Underdeveloped EQ skills in either gender makes it hard to have a healthy relationship. Emotional repression (which we teach boys to do) is the opposite of healthy emotional processing and emotional regulation (which are EQ skills, among others like conflict resolution, direct communcarion, etc.) Plus the fact that even the most progressive of men have misogynistic tendencies they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:11 PM
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And if it was that easy no one would be struggling. Finding a good endocrynologist is really, really hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:22 PM
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Same as I think of all violent criminals. Something went very wrong and they need to be away from the general population and preferably get help and therapy. Not saying that they should all be released, not everyone can be rehabilitated, buy a lot of them are violent because violence is all they knew. And even if they aren't released, they still deserve medical care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:26 PM
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As someone who has been ghosted, it's not nearly the most harmful thing you can do to someone. Getting stalked, hit or verbally abused is far, far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:16 AM
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Boy’s falling behind in school, girls outperforming them (‘The education system is too feminine and made for girls, it is the only reason why boys aren’t performing well’. It’s funny because if boys were doing better in school these same men would say it’s because boys are smarter and more capable and that girls are too emotional to excel academically.) Girls do even better in school if there aren't boys in the class. Boys do worse than in mixed classes. read more here Modern schools are still m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:01 AM
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You obviously aren't active in kink spaces. Yes they do. And a guy with a smaller dick can be a bull. In fact, it can up the degradation factor for the cuck which is part of it for many men. Because the cuck himself bases his worth on his larger dick. Take that away and what does he have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:41 AM
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Weight is controllable, barring very rare thyroid issues. Just exercise and eat well. Thyroid hormones aren't the only ones that can lead to weight gain. Sexual hormones, insulin issues and cortisol issues also affect weight
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:39 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:37 AM
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So do women. How is this a relevant argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:39 PM
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Pretty much. If biological issues in offspring are the cause as you claim, that's exactly how it should be. Otherwise it's pure hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:25 PM
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The "wall" is a revenge fantasy men have. And propaganda so that women actually marry them before they figure what they want out of life. The fact is, at least looking at my parents, my mom always had options even when they were together, men were always hitting on her. and that's still true now that she's divorced (but is voluntarily celibate) and my dad...does not. It is not voluntary. And he looks good compared to most men his age. (not fat, full head of dark hair in his 60s) and has more mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:23 PM
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The women my mother's age all look better to me than the men my father's age, and I'm bi. Like most of the men are bald and fat or at least have a beer gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:16 PM
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Female fertility drops rapidly after the age of 32 and the probability of a genetic disorder increases rapidly. So does male fertility after 35. It's why sperm banks don't accept sperm from men over 40. Older sperm has been linked to development difficulties in the offspring and high risk pregnancies even in young mothers. here ya go Yes women can have babies much beyond that, but as every year passes by the likelihood of there being a problem increases a lot. For men too. Just because they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:09 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:31 AM
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Data has shown that most straight women at some point want want to have kids and most of these women would rather not do it as a single mother for numerous reasons. Fair enough. Doing it with a man they resent is also not high on that list though. And those aren't the only two options. More and more women are choosing to raise kids with each other. If kids and not raising them alone are the only factors, there are options around that. I am in my early to mid 30s and what I have consistently seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:40 AM
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The point was that they focused on a single thing in "common" to the avoidance and detriment of everything else. And that society was set up to punish and penalize those who are uncoupled which led them to have to do so in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:01 AM
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As a woman, seems like a pretty solid solution. Have fun dating each other. We love that for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:25 AM
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1)in vitro paternity tests are dangerous and encroach on the bodily autonomy of the baby and the mother 2)post birth paternity tests still. Encroach on the bodily autonomy of the baby And 3) Courts can and do order paternity tests where they think it's neccessary. Just like child support and alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:52 AM
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and finding a man to commit means lowering their standards to find a man on their level Why? Staying single is always an option. And it's a better option than dating someone you don't want to date. Settling is so much worse than remaining single. So many men struggle to find partners because women on their level are aiming way higher than themselves. But that's not a woman's problem. If women prefer staying single to dating those men, that's absolutely our prerogative. What would make sense is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:29 AM
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You'd think...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:23 PM
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The cold approach sucks coz you know nothing about the dude except he thinks you're hot. Which is kinda irrelevant to wanting to get to know someone. Him thinking I'm hot is irrelevant to me wanting to get to know him. That's where the misunderstanding happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:00 AM
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If you haven't bought your home before retirement (expecting modern day homeownership lmao, expecting to retire decades from now lmfao) I already own my home debt free and am looking at my second property. Thanks for the concern though. automation won't do shit for your rent payment, I've actually never paid rent. I bought my house and moved from my parents place. you need safety nets like social security which are expected to go bankrupt because there are too few paying in and too many collecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:30 AM
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It's not a contradiction if I don't agree to dates with guys I don't know. Getting to know a guy is not gonna happen in a date setting. Dates are only for people I already know I'm interested in. I have zero interest in getting to know a random stranger on the street or in a bar. It's really not that complicated. What is contradictory or confusing there exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:23 AM
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Prostitution may become legal to help keep incels in check, Or we could just seperate them from society. Giving them access to real women in a prostitution setting would probably mean violence to those women. economic hardship increases as less young people being born means less people to fund services and that turns into an economic death spiral... Thats assuming we don't automate a lot of things we use human workers for now by then, but yeah, capitalism would fail even more spectacularly than …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:12 AM
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Why would they agree to it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:10 AM
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As a modern woman, the only thing I want from a traditional man is a wide berth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:47 AM
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I don't go on dates with people I don't know. That's my preference. And that's the one that matters as far as I'm concerned. To you it might. To me, I prefer to watch how a man behaves and treats other women first. To see how he talks about his exes. His mother. How he behaves with other men. What kind of jokes he makes for them. All while hes not thinking about shooting his shot or impressing me. It's a lot more honest. And I don't see the point wasting my time with a random, when I can get a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:45 AM

Does it? Then why do most men not even try to fight for custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:21 AM
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Never said that in my life. As a bi woman, I prefer. To do the asking out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:16 AM

So does hormonal birth control, but I bet you're okay with us dealing with those harmful side-effects. And therapy is what's supposed to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:15 AM

And men are committing more suicide. Women getting help when they need it, especially due to hormone disbalance which can cause anxiety/mood swings etc is not them being devasted. It's them taking care of themselves. As for biologically inclined to have kids and a family, I'll let you know of that one ever happens. So far at 30, it hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:43 PM
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"at least act like he cares" I replied to a specific wording
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:37 PM
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If you actually listened to women you'd know none of your post is why men are struggling to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:02 PM
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You can figure that out over conversation, but that conclusion can't be immediately reached the moment someone introduces themselves. Which is why I only go out with people I already know. There no attraction or interest in my end prior to that. If you don't want to talk to anybody, you don't have to. However, it's weird to talk dating and relationship dynamics being in a position where you wish to remove yourself from socializing with others. I already have a thriving friend group, I do volonte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:44 PM
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It does if they're demi.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:21 PM
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But it still comes down to why expect a dude you never met to know or care about you more beyond what he can see at the surface level? If he's asking me out or for my personal information, yes I expect him to care about those things. But it's fine if he doesn't. I'm just not gonna be interested. Expectations change when in a relationship (say, birthdays, favorite color, etc), but for those starting the courtship process, we can't be so rigid on expecting people to know who we are beyond what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:20 PM
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If they leave after the first no thank you, no. If they don't yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:33 PM
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So talk to him. Find out if he's interested in learning about you or just views you like a piece of meat. You're a big girl, you can use your words. You're far too old to just want to hide behind mommy's skirt. Why? I prefer the way I meet guys or girls. On my terms. It works for me and I've never had issues. So why on earth would I do something that I don't want to in a way that doesn't work for me? And that's assuming I'm single when he's approaching. Blame women. They're the ones who are so u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:30 PM
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But for most women, it is much more appealing for the man approaching to at least act like he cares about more than what she can offer him sexually No, pretending is worse. I want him to actually care not pretend and manipulate to get what he wants. That's worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:13 PM
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Of course they think you're attractive. What else is he supposed to know? Is he supposed to do a research project on you before approaching you? I'm not interested in people whose personalities I don't know. So what he thinks about me is irrelevant. I know nothing about him and thus have zero interest in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:12 PM
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I'm not in the US. Huh. Interesting. Thanks. I wonder if it's due to the lack of free time most US citizens have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:12 PM
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only about half the women who use them say it's a positive experience and not all women or even most use them ,positive%20and%2051%25%20saying%20negative.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:01 PM
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Dating apps are only like 20% women. Women meet our partners through our social lives. The cold approach sucks coz you know nothing about the dude except he thinks you're hot. Which is kinda irrelevant to wanting to get to know someone. And the dating apps suck coz men just swipe right on everyone, don't fill out their bio, or read your bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:36 PM
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You dated a predator and expected emotional maturity? Or grace?a 45 year olds who dates a 26 year old is always emotionally stunted. Always
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:38 AM
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78million people is 1% of the global population.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:17 PM
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"No, Ted Bundy just used his charm, good looks, and good social skills to lure people in. And people trusted him because he looked good" ... You know manipulation is a social skill, right? A dark one, but still, a social skill. You need to know how to get people to do what you want them to. "The murders followed a pattern, with Bundy earning the trust of his victims before luring them to a secluded place where he killed them" "When he was incarcerated, he was determined to seduce and enthrall th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:27 PM
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Okay if you're talking about mentally ill serial killer fans, that's not representative of most women. Neither are fame groupies. Why they're into that goddess knows, but I hope they heal that in themselves. But you also don't know whether or not they continued engaging in predatory behaviour including dark psychology. Tend bundy had a whole method of picking his victims based on that. You think he ever stopped using it when dealing with people? Not just sexually, but in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:14 PM
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That is a diagnosis, yes. But social akwardness isn't. Are you in therapy for social anxiety and developing social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:12 PM
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Height surgeries do exist, actually. And if it's that important to you why not make it a goal to save up for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:32 PM
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Personal experience from playing games with higher female populations and hanging out in groups related to them Personal experience alone is not a source. 50/50 is an insanely good ratio for a "nerdy" activity, some games like Genshin Impact also have a 45% female population? It's pretty much in my dnd group too. And my social circle. Which is exactly why personal experience alone is not data. We preselect and selfselcts our social circles I never said I have an issue with it, it's just an obser…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:18 PM
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So why not get plastic surgery if you think it would change how you're viewed so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:03 PM
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Mental disorders are still part of who you are. I'm autistic. That definitely impacts every aspect of my personality, including how I socialize. And it's only a mental disorder if you have social anxiety, autism or another diagnosis that includes abnormal socialization. Being socially awkward is not a diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:02 PM
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The fact you think predatory men used anything but unethical predatory practices to be "successful" with people is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:53 PM

You’re clearly delusional and you’re clearly a very young woman still living at home or living on her parents money. Aww the ad hominem. Cute. But I'm 30, have my own business, own my house clear and free, and have never been in any kind of debt in my life. Not even had a credit card. So you don’t need men for survival? So you, as a woman, can walk ANYWHERE in your city at any time of the day and night for as long as you need, right? You feel zero fear, zero need to any potential person to help …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:28 PM
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As long as he's honest it's not gross though. (unless the age gap is too large). The older women are using him for sex just as much as he's using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:40 PM
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The real answer is that there is a male/female divide even in nerd shit Source. Female nerd shit is more story/character/art focused, probably higher representation in LARP, roleplay and DND stuff In all the international LARPs and local LARPs I go to, it's about 50/50. (dnd games are self selected so not a good metric, the LARPs are open to anyone who buys a ticket.) I know women who are technically into the same games I play but they enjoy them in completely different ways to the point where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:38 PM

So you agree that men in 2023 are better than ever in history. Nope. I said it's a possibility. But without data that's not a claim you can make. You’re now asserting something different - that women now don’t NEED men for anything and women only needed men for survival in the past because they had no choice. Pretty much. You got it! And that's the only reason they accepted men back then. Now that there's no survival driver to do so, women aren't picking those men. Or even better men than those …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:34 PM
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Why is it gross for the guy and why is one person a minor/too young in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:35 AM
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I don't reccomend learning to socialize under the influence. The state of mind theory says you'll remember how to do something in the state of mind you were at the time you learned it. So for eg, you learn to play beer pong drunk and then you play it drunk consistently. You're a very good player drunk, but sober you suck. Because your mind can't access the skills in that state of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:34 AM
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Is that because of my social isolation, my autism, or both? I don't know. Both I'd say. Based on the fact that autistic women socialize more like allistic men than autistic men or allistic women, and we learn to mask (it's cognitive, not instinctual, just like you described), and there don't seem to be significant differences between autistic male and female brains, it's probably more nurture than nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:32 AM
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You can go to therapy that specifically targets EQ skills, social skills and inter-human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:29 AM
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Attributing the greater male libido to the orgasm gap is also something I disagree with. You may be letting your own experience as a very high libido woman color things Men don't have a greater libido compared to women after the age of 25 though. Men's starts declining and women reach their sexual peak in their 30s. And it can last much longer now with hormone replacement therapy in menopause. As a very high libido woman, I can tell you that mediocre sex is still not worth it. Masturbation would…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:12 AM
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Humans are unique from other animals in many ways, so I do not think we can assume it is natural for only 40 to 20% of men to procreate if women are 'free'. (I don't agree with characterization of all women in the past as being 'in captivity', but that is another argument. Certainly mating conditions were often different.) Monogamy and marriage are social constructs that became necessary due to land ownership through the staff line. Without marriage and religion pushing it, do you think most hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:35 AM

Agreed. The nuclear family isn't working and it's time to retire the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:54 AM

I didn't say any of that. you did. My reply was specific to the part I quoted. But I do think your whole base premise is a logical fallacy though. Men might be better today but the only reason men historically had wives was because women didn't have other options. Literally. A man or death either of starvation or prostitution. Be one man's property or communal property, unless you were an actual spinster who could be financially independent. -(weavers, tapestry makers, etc) who usually remained …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:51 AM
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To what extent is vestigial female resource hypergamy just evolutionary mismatch--instincts evolved for a different environment that are still at work? Or is it a somewhat more conscious dynamic, with women believing they innately bring more to the table due to maybe higher reproductive costs, and thus they want some compensation? If the latter, will women shift to other forms of compensation like dating up in appearance? Neither I'd say (as a woman). But you can't judge any animals true behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:31 AM
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So, what purpose do dating and relationships serve now? Aside from providing a framework for child rearing, nothing. And I feel like that won't be the most common way to raise kids in 30-50 years, either. Even now we can see that shift. The nuclear family as a way of childrearing is relatively new in human history and it's consistently been shown to be worse than multigenerational families. (of the same socioeconomic class)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:20 AM
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Hyperindependence is a trauma response, one that makes deep bonding difficult. The same can be said of codependence, abiet for the opposite reasons. The goal should be interdependence, but most people don't know how to have healthy interdependence without hierarchy or control exerted by one side. And that should be the goal of most relationships, not just romantic, but many people lack basic community and relationship (filial, familial, platonic, etc skills.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:17 AM

That's always seemed a much better option for me personally if you want to have kids. Literally have a diary entry at 14 that says for the raising of children friends who agree about parenting are better than adults who are together due to pheromones. (I was an edgy kid 😂)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:01 AM
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Nope. You were right last time. I have Croatian citizenship but I'm not Coratian by nationality. That's why I said much better. Right country in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:55 AM
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I wonder if this is a cultural difference. Coz I've never had a friendgroup based on proximity, it's always been based on interest. I'd be friends with a few kids from school, though rarely from my class. Then I'd have one each from every extracurricular and sport I did who were from completely different schools and neighborhoods. And I'm 30 now and it's still easy to met people and make friends that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:50 AM
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There's plenty of women in nerd shit. Hell, I'm a LARPer, cosplayer, dnder, avid fantasy and Sci fi reader. I'm not into video games though both my sisters and several of my gfs are. The reason you don't see women in men heavy nerd shit groups is because-- we don't like the vibe or treatment when we're there. So we play amongst ourselves and with some carefully vetted guys. There's literally whole international discord servers for the girls, gays and theys to set up nerdy shit without creepyness…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:47 AM
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That's probably because we wouldnt want any of our gfs dating you for some reason. If we like you and think you'll click with a friend, that friend will just randomly be there for coffee or something. We won't send you on a blind date. Those are awkward and pressuring. This way is more natural and it can develop organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:41 AM
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Goddess no, and please leave me alone in the DIY and hardware stores, too. If one more man comes up to me to mansplain a fucking power tool I'm replacing, I'm testing it out on him. Just coz I like pretty dresses outside doesn't mean I don't have a pair of grimy overalls to use in my workshop as well. (I've actually been asked how I build stuff in my dresses by multiple dudes. It's weird. you can change your clothes. Easily)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:33 AM
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Hobby shop? Like woodworking or carpentry? What kind of cards? Poker or magic the gathering?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:26 AM
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Much better. But no, I technically only live here. Moved when I was 11. Grew up in Egypt and was born there. So my schooling has been eclectic as has my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:23 AM
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You didn't learn about Oppenheimer in HS??? And now you're learning from a tertiary source? The US education system? Or? Coz you speak German so now I'm confused. We definitely learned about Oppenheimer in HS when I was in the 2nd or 3rd grade. It's also when we went to auschwitz as a school trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:18 AM
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Nope. And quite a few more countries escape you that use "gymnasium" in their own language. Closer to Germany than Poland, in fact. And also Slavic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:14 AM
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See, I'd only count the physics journals as actual educational reading. The rest is for enjoyment. Oppenheimer is history and history should be learned from first sources as much as possible, not secondary. Its what we do in HS here already. We have to use the primary sources and are only allowed to use secondary if there aren't any primary sources available. Molecules of more... Dopamine is a fun little hormone, as anyone with adhd knows, but it doesn't work on its own and cannot, and is not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:13 AM
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I don't speak German. Why would you think that? I do speak 4 languages though. Bonus points if you can speak one of the other 3 that isn't English and guess it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:07 AM
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Very triggered. It's also funny coz even when they made a datibg app. Specifically for conservative men and women, it failed coz not enough conservative women were on there. It's not just the "libs" or "dems" or whatever is considered left that you have in the US thats refusing to date them. Their own women don't want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:04 AM
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An most people don't manage to open up their own service so they can hire other people to do the manual labour
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:59 AM
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Reading what though? Coz as much as I love my trashy erotica novels, I don't really count them towards an education. Research papers, yes. Fiction, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:58 AM
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A college education isn't necessary if the person is in a trade or finished a vocational HS in my country as far as I'm concerned. If someone went to a gymnasium HS, either math, classic, or linguistic, they kind of have to go to college coz they don't have a vocation. But since UNI is govt funded in my country, most people are college educated. White or blue collar, if he's religious or right wing those are automatic dealbreakers but I'm not assuming based on their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:56 AM

This doesn't change the fact that the person I was responding to doesn't represent an "average" person. She has a paid off home, car, and owns businesses. Most people in the west struggle with this as a couple let alone single. I'm not average either by those metrics, yet I'm not so much better of than most by my country's standards. Never been in debt either. Not so much as a credit card. Not a mortgage. Never been any need for it. you can now also marry your bestie. So even an economic marriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:47 AM

As a legal contract it is. Religious marriage is irrelevant to me (& more people every day) since I'm an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:29 AM

Everyones allowed to leave if they are unhappy. Everyone. I'm not worried about being alone or single, personally. What you consider frivolous I consider an unacceptable amount of permanent unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:28 AM

And just living with a man adds 7h of housework on average (no kids or pets) to a woman's workload. Thats a little over 15 days a year. That's a whole ass holiday. So if you're a woman with your own money, none of that sounds appealing, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:24 AM

You know the US is not the only place in the world, yes? You've seen a globe? A map?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:20 AM

I mean sure, I'd marry my bestie to give her my benefits. Even if economic marriages do return.. Why would the only option be to marry a man? It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:18 AM

women are out buying men as far as property and being first time home owners among millenials. More women are getting a college education among millenials than men. 4th wave feminism is about decentering men politically, economically, socially and in our personal lives. Which is exactly what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:16 AM

Why would the roommate or living with a platonic bestfriend be a worse option than an economic marriage? Coz seems the other way around, honestly. There’s a bit of an irony that men are better partners now than ever in the past and yet many women despise them more than any time in the past. Not really. Women didn't really have options. If it's about survival, you'll pretty much eat shit to survive. Humans are hardwired to survive. How an animal behaves in captivity is not a true observation of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:11 AM
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I've already had this conversation, feel free to read the thread. The tldr is that not all marriage is religious and not everyone has forever in their vows. In fact of the 3 abrahamic religions, only one completely bans divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:33 PM
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Nah, I match energy. Someone telling me they spent 10s reading something to take it out of context is not going to get a reply. Someone who actually articulated their arguments and asks clarifying questions? Absolutely. And they were good questions. And it didn't come of as antagonist coz honestly I've asked myself the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:29 PM
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If you make a promise to be with someone forever, you have the obligation to keep your promise by all reasonable means Not everyone wants or believes in marriage. And not everyone's vows include forever. Not all marriages are religious in nature, for many it's just a legal contract. Especially among the queer community. Lots of religious trauma there. .
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:13 PM
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The methodologies vary greatly from study to study in general so it's really hard to track. In my country (coz I'm not in the US) all the studies show very low physical domestic violence and about equivalent to the emotional violence exhibited by women in straight relationships. But others show much more violence in both. And then you compare methodologies and realize the sample size was all taken from the queer community in a specific (poor) part of town for the second study, and the first was …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:10 PM
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It's only a problem if you mind being single or are miserable single and think it's better to be in any relationship just to be in one. Not being in a relationship doesn't stop you experiencing the rest of what the world has to offer. It's a bonus, not a requirement. A limited dating pool shouldnt be a problem for the person who chose to limit it. It's only a problem for the people who don't meet your standards but whose standards you do meet. (general you as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:54 PM
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Sure you do buddy, sure you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:09 AM
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I don't expect perfection. I'm just not willing to compromise on my dealbreakers. They're dealbreakers for a reason. It doesn't matter when they occur in a relationship, a dealbreaker is a dealbreaker. So say my partner suddenly wanted kids after 10 years (I'm CF). They need to find someone else to have them with, because I'm not going to be going through a pregnancy or childbirth. That's a dealbreaker. And no comprise can be made without one side resenting the other in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:12 AM
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Go read the referenced studies. Specifically the third on the list. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:48 AM
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Why? Better a relationship end than either person be miserable. A permanent level of unhappiness is unacceptable. A breakup is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:24 AM
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Another damning statistic is that 44% of lesbians reported experiencing intimate partner violence, compared to 35% of straight women and 26% of gay men And this is why we don't like kids using Wikipedia as their main source folks! And why you should always read the references. Because if you read the actual studies, most intimate partner violence for lesbians and bi women was in previous hetero relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:23 AM
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Roomba has to offer the option of using your old roomba's carapace on a new machine if they need to exchange the machine, because people get super attached to their roombas. Not kidding. The human pack bonding instinct is pretty damn intense. I'm hoping for a solar punk type situation with our AI friends. But all the dudes seem to be convinced if it happens, it will be cyber punk. I wonder what happens if you create 4 of the same AIs, and then have one only absorb knowledge from men, one from wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:01 AM
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When they gain sentience and start ripping bits off, I'll be cheering them on. And trying to figure out what kind of therapy covers "gaining sentience and realizing Im just an object to male humans" which tbf, we should probably also offer to human girls at around 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:57 AM
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If these opposites of masculine and feminine are meant to attract then they would become confused by intermingling. Except they aren't. What attracts individual humans is extremely varied. And you're completely ignoring the existence of queer people. Who have both better sex and relationships than het people. Women don’t take that same amount of time to ‘learn’ men or learn them in the same way, because that is chasing energy. That is anxious energy. It is masculine energy. Speak for yourself pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:34 AM
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Above average by those metrics maybe. But OP seems pleasant and based on your comment history you.... Don't. That's a huge factor. Good luck with those sex bots though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:13 AM
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So it would be as hard as say, choosing to be child free as a woman? (around equivalent societal pressure I mean)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:10 AM
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How long has your longest relationship been? Coz one of mines been going on for 7 years and the other for 5. Most monogamous marriages end in divorce too. Polyam isn't any less or more successful than monogamy. the failure will begin in you when you wake up one day and realize you have zero respect for these guys because they have even less for themselves. The only men I have 0 respect for are misogynists. So I'm pretty sure I'm good. But please stop projecting how you feel about yourself onto o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:08 AM

Do you think women have an advantage over men when it comes to having a social life? No, I think we just base all out friendships on deep emotional support and vulnerability and put a lot of effort into maintaining them and nurturing them Women seem to be more social and they often exclude men, not that I blame women for that. Can men not be other men's friends and emotional support? Why would the social circle have to be women? Women's social circles aren't mostly men after all. I just think pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:02 AM
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So it's a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:10 PM
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Pain affects your libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:22 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:40 AM
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you're* deluded and insane and tbh I would stay away from men in general, you're* just going to damage them with your insanity. I'll tell both my live in male partners you said that. I'm sure they're gonna take your advice and move out of my house immediately 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:23 AM
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So all the guys you've ever been attracted to were broke, living in poverty or were crackheads ?. Your viewpoint represents the minority if you're strictly only attracted to low-income men. No. But I'm not in the US. We don't have your kind of poverty or any other of the bs, thankfully. And I've dated men, women and enbies regardless of social class, yes. It wasn't a factor. Which means some were, some weren't. Nevertheless, points above are the REASONS why men do what they do, although some wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:19 AM
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It's easier for women to have a social life. Men are seen as less trustworthy than women. And maybe women are naturally more social. So even men are scared of and avoiding men? Just cause it's easy for you to have a social life, doesn't mean it's easy for everyone Never said it was easy. But you're pretty much undateable if you don't have a social life. The skills you need for healthy friendships are easily translateable to a healthy relationship. But if you don't have those skills either from f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:14 AM
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You think your joints swelling and being in constant pain, including your hip joints, won't affect sex?😂 It affects walking, ffs. Think a thought through to the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:11 AM
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So basic hygiene, basic adulting, and some caveman shit is what women's bare minimum should be? Yike on a bike. That's like the bare minimum to not be dead in the ditch of sepsis, not having a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:09 AM
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That's particularly why men have to do; • Pick tougher, and higher paying jobs to attract you • Work longer hours to attract you • Select harder college courses to attract you • Select younger women (because they make less money, so are thus attracted to older men) None of this was what's ever attracted me to a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:37 PM
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That's not data. That's 2% of the world population still being half the US population. In other words what seems like a large number does not necessarily have statistical relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:40 PM
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But the things you listed aren't really worth paying for. At least to me as a woman. But I like this idea. We can pay for men to collectively go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:20 PM
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The social norms didn't work for me so I ignored them. If they don't work for you, no one's forcing you to adhere to them. Worst thing people can do is talk, and they do that whatever you're doing. But regardless, the point was I date women too, and it's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:20 PM
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"In 2019, 53.8% of adults aged 18─34 years had at least one chronic condition, and 22.3% had more than one condition." info Not in the sense of being unable to work, but your libido is among the first things that the body will shut down in survival mode for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:06 AM
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So you married a Japanese woman? Are in a long term relationship with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:54 AM
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Japan has such low success rate for relationships as a whole, and then their opinion of Gaijins...I don't think men, even tech dudes, have the chance there you think they do. Like maybe a few of them got lucky. But they're still Gaijin. Their kids will be Gaijin. Most Japanese women don't want to mess with that. (or having kids or marriage either). But I guess American men might look slightly better in the misogyny department, depending on the man. And I'm not an American woman btw. I'm Slavic. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:43 AM
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Why do you think they'd have any more luck with financially independent women in other countries if they don't in their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:33 AM
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just as simple as you work for something staying disciplined you'll likely get it You can't get humans. They choose to be with you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:29 AM
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Passport bros specifically have to target women in developing countries because unless her livelihood depends on them, they can't get nor keep a woman. It's predatory and desperate. And they still strike out most of the time. So it's hilarious too, in a messed up way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:28 AM
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Humans aren't rewards for other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:23 AM
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Who said it had to be something you didn't enjoy? That would be counter productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:20 AM
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People become disabled in their 30s. And no one is entitled to sex. If no wants to have sex with you, you don't get to have it. That's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:17 AM
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Statistically about 40% of women in the USA have an Instagram and make up about 48% of the user base. Reddit is like 32% women. I'm not in the US. Here its about 30% women have instas. But that also doesn't tell us how they use their profiles. Or what their views are. Just how many there are. So this isn't helpful as a metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:28 PM
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Statistically according to a study 25% of dating women and go out on a date just for the free food. Which study? I'd love to see the age break downs and methodology. And I think the Instagram communications are more influential. I see more friends who are women who try to be like Instagram models/influencers than the woman under the purple pill subreddit. Do you see more, or because they have real. Pfps do you notice which are women and which are men? And you know that you choose your friends ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:57 PM
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When we rightfully point that out, most of the rebuttals by a lot of women here is 'Why do you care who people sleep with? Do you want to obligate women to have sex with men they dont find attractive?" I mean yeah. You say that womens standards are too high. Which implies the solution is for women to lower their standards. But women would rather remain single than settle. So that's not really a viable option for us. What else do you suggest? Its a major trust issue that feminism caused. Women ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:45 PM
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Im a bi woman. I date all genders. And I've done the asking out since I was 14. It makes zero sense to me to only pick from a pre selected, self selected pool of people who approach me based on their standards. I prefer to ask people out based on mine. But yeah, my success rate (if by success we measure a yes to a date) is about 6/10 with women, and about a 9/10 with men. I've only asked out a few enbies and they all said yes, but it's a small sample size. You need more for a woman to say yes, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:52 PM
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here ya go
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:48 PM
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I would never look for a partner in your country then. I want a partner that knows for sure that being with me is the best option available to her. Who asked you to look for a partner in my country? Lol. And the reason you wouldn't, is that you know that being dependent on you is the only way someone would want to stay with you. You need to be needed because you know you'll never actually be wanted. Truly desired for who you are and not what you can provide. That is your position, your opinion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:44 PM
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Not in my country. Strong labour laws here and at will employment is illegal. They have to prove just cause to fire me. And there's far more laws regulating boss-employee relationships than marriage. Plus employment allowed me to own my own house, free and clear, pay for domestic and catering services, and live a pretty awesome life overall. Jobs are also easier to get out of and change than marriage. With less repercussions. I'm self employed now and pick my own clients, so bosses are a moot po…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:11 PM
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Or you know... An actual social life. As a woman, I haven't dated anyone from either a dating app or the cold approach. No need to, I meet people all the time through my hobbies, social life, volonteer work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:54 PM
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I wouldn’t assume most people sexually function well under a mountain of stress and responsibilities just because you do. I dont. I don't assume either. I ask them. Because assuming based on averages or even majority still doesn't work on an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:06 PM
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but perhaps the portion of genuinely well meaning guys who put other people’s well-being ahead of their gratification, operate with empathy and tact, manage their emotions and take accountability for their actions are more of an enclave than a silent majority. Or not. What do you think? I'd say the truly decent men, (by my standards anyway) are around 20%. 60% are average and okay with the status quo as it is. But that's not automatically decent or good. Just neutral. And around 20% are just pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:02 PM
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Maybe the fact women only have a 60% chance of orgasm in a committed relationship with a man contributes to a dead bedroom? Goddess knows Im not entertaining anyone sexually if it's not good for me. Would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:42 PM
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It absolutely is stressful to know "if I don't do make him happy my livelihood is gone". Stressful enough that I'd personally never agree to it. That's the easiest way to being financially abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:41 PM
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I’m in my early thirties now, on birth control and my bf and I maybe have sex 1-2 a week and we’re fine with that. We both work full-time and have somewhat stressful jobs. I have an investment property and we’re looking to buy another house atm. A lot of our time is eaten up by our obligations. I'm in my early 30s now too, and I have 2 partners I live with and have sex with several times a week (polyamory, not cheating) and I still masturbate daily and would be okay having more sex. Don't make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:39 PM
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Good to know you're someone who reacts like a 5 year old to a politely expressed boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:36 PM
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I'm 30,still haven't changed my mind. My 70 year old great aunt also never changed her mind. And she sees more of the family regularly than most anyone else. More women regret becoming mothers than being child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:35 PM
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Most relationships that last end up with a dead bedroom or infrequent sex due to age and infirmity. Aging is part of life. It's inevitable. And high libido women aren't rare. You claim to be one and I am one too. And goddess knows I've dated plenty (I'm bi) But that doesn't mean a woman with a naturally high libido can't lose her attraction to her partner for whatever reason. Usually lack of emotional intimacy or feeling unsafe, but it could be anything. I was in a horrible relationship when I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:26 PM
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Aspegers is not a diagnosis in the EU's ICD 11 or the DSM-5 anymore. In the DSM 5 it would be level 1 autism. In the ICD 11 it would be level 1 autism without comorbid intellectual difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:56 AM
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I'm autistic and I know it's creepy. But I'm a woman. Please don't use autism as an excuse for something allistic men are just as guilty of. It's a messed up mindset, not a neurotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:58 PM
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Many if not most women don't like the cold approach. We have better options IRL through our social circle and life. A random stranger on the street hasn't been vetted, we don't know whether he has the qualities we're looking for. We can just tell if he's physically attractive or not and thats not enough to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:55 PM

Because (some) men somehow are still vastly overestimating the value of their attention and presence to women. They use threats like that and "dying alone" because they're the ones who are scared of it. Pure projection. Women have always died alone. We outlive the men. It's not a scary concept. It's definitely not worth a life of settling or permanent level of unhappiness just for the chance you won't be alone when you go. How you live your life is important, not the moment you leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 06:09 AM
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Do you think this is similar for other women too or just you? Like in regards to ways women meet guys IRL, and how receptive they are to randoms on the street.. The women I know definitely. what would be the advantage of saying yes to a stranger we know nothing about except his looks, which is definitely not enough on its own, when we actually interact with other dudes, see how they behave and treat other people, see the type of people they surround themselves with, see then deal with problems, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:45 AM
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No one should ever be able to message non matches, because the consent issue is kinda the big one here. People consentually paying 500$ really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:35 AM
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mean at least personally I'm relatively happy to hear about people who are able to find love and long term commitment. And I feel shame as an American when Ariana Grande wrecks two homes and makes a single mother to hook up with the guy who played spongebob on Broadway But not SpongeBob himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:33 AM

Because men have been jacking off almost daily (and more than once every day on some cases) their whole teen years, they know preety well how to reach an orgasm quickly (as to not get caught) from an early age. So do many women. Also, I could argue than from a biological pov, female orgasm is not as important as it is not necesary to concieve. I know men can ejaculate without one, but it is extremely rare, in my case it only happened trice in my whole life. Reproduction is irrelevant. We're disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:38 PM
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So wait a woman smiles at someone in a bar and that's expressing interest to you guys? And then you complain why you don't get complimented or smiled at? Make it make sense. Do you not smile at people you aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:12 PM
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That's a lot of text to say you're bad at interpreting an individual' s body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:10 PM
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How about Larping or dnd?. I'm sure there's something that interests you where there's women involved. The thing is, whether men have other avenues than the cold approach will be irrelevant to women who do have other avenues, and I dont see why our overall attitude to the "cold approach" would change based on the apps dying out. IRL options, yes. Cold approach, still no. I didn’t realise that was the proposal for the $500 tinder subscription. That’s obscene. Yep. Once more trying to turn us into…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:03 PM
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The whisper on the wind says dating apps are failing to bear fruit and not only for undesirable types - I’ve asked a few conventionally attractive lady friends recently and all have stopped using the apps or so they say, stating not only burnout but a drop in quality of the guys they were matching with Yep. Tinder is only 20% women for a reason. It wasnt working for us and we have IRL options. So we just left. Now tinder wants to create a premium option that would allow people to message people …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:43 PM

Neg women enough so their self esteem drops so he might have a chance with one, probably
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:05 PM

He’s been removed from the gene pool and god damnit he’s going to talk about it lmao This made me chortle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:03 PM

Right? We keep waiting for them to actually go but they don't. They just stick around spouting BS and trying to get attention in the worst way possible. No one's stopping them going, but they don't seem to understand how to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:02 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:26 PM
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I didn't ask that. I asked if you feel the exact same way and have the exact same relationship with all your friends and family. Also are you claiming you see everyone at the same rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:04 PM

1) tbh it must be way easier to give someone an orgasm when you have the same set of genitals. Its like being born with the user manual. 1)So why are women so good at getting men off? And even if it's harder to learn, why aren't they making the effort to learn it? 2) With the amount and variety of contraceptive methods women have at their disposal, I find your reasoning lackluster at best. Women only have 2 methods of BC. Hormonal birth control which comes in many forms (pill, patch, IUD, inject…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:41 AM

Women believe they are born knowing how to fuck like a godess, and that only men can be bad at sex. Is that why lesbian ONS have an 85% chance of orgasm for the woman and hetero ones only 15%? Or 60% in a committed hetero relationship and 90% in comitted lesbian one? Like, some of us have sex with all genders so we actually have something we can compare it to. Men orgasm 95% of the time in both situations untill the age of 30, when it starts dropping due to age and erectile issues. That doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:58 AM
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Do you have the exact same relationship with all of your friends or family?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:44 AM

I'm not looking for a discussion. It's a moot point. No one's gonna be falling in line because no one sees him as a realistic dating option. There's not any more to discuss. He's invisible except wheen he screams into the void that is reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:08 AM

they'll call you misogynistic and fall in line anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:58 AM

Goddess, but they played you well. Imagine thinking you got two strippers off during a lap dance and that it isn't acting to boost your ego and get better tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:57 AM

Fall in line? No one's lining up for dudes like that. No one's even aware they exist as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:26 AM
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That's why I own the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:17 PM
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It just started. S. Korea had a 4 births per woman average, now it's 0.84 births per woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:56 PM
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Uff, I bet your grandma could tell you stories..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:49 PM

Men who think like that have never been truly wanted, truly desired for who they are in their life. They know that without need most would have no reason to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:48 AM
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Men are bashed about not organizing their homes, simple to nonexistent decor, often pretty messy, low effort etc. But here is a different perspective Many men do not value things like cute decor, folded laundry, home goods, organized living spaces etc. So you're saying men are naturally inclined to live in squalor and mess and have poor hygiene practices? The decor aside, an organized and clean home is important to mental and physical health. There's a reason every country has a minimum standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:46 AM
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If women want to be sexually free and autonomous then cold approaching is fair game If men want to cold approach, women rejecting then in whatever way they please is fair game. Because they've been told over and over again that women don't like the cold approach. So if the consequence is intense embarrassment, well, that's fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:04 AM
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A good thing for you, coz you seem ugly on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:54 PM
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This very much depends on country. You realize this, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:56 PM
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Monogamy isn't though. Monogamy was the norm for most of civilized history. Why are you only looking at "civilized history"? Monogamy became important when land ownership happened due to inheritance. Do you think what people want isn't malleable? I don't. I think people's tastes are being warped to unhealthy degrees, which is the real problem. It's like those fat people on TLC that wretch at the taste of a brussels sprout or w/e. Huh? TLC? I'm not in the US or an English speaking country and my …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:52 PM
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So you've been to every EU country?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:12 PM
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Coz as a 5'11 bi woman who literally couldn't care less if I'm taller or bigger than my partner, every short dude I dated was insecure about his heigh AF and tried to make that insecurity mine to tiptoe around and enable (stuff like telling me to stop wearing heels, standing next to me when I was sitting or being mad if I stood straight in photos, etc) Plus height and reach isn't the only advantage men have when it comes to strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:08 PM
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In my own home, no. But in my country, I can't take public transportation without a dude harrassing me or grabbing me. (the city center isn't accessible by car it's pedestrian and tram only). And it's an EU country.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:50 PM
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You can't prevent most actions of other people. Only react to them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:43 PM
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No it isn't. Actions have social consequences. That's part of living in society and it's also a course of action that can be taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:40 PM
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Because constantly rebuilding old systems means the issues never get truly addressed properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:49 PM
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Peterson literally said women should marry men they don't want to because otherwise those men become violent to society. The FBI has also said incels are a legitimate threat to US national security. What Peterson and people who think like him are ignoring is that those men aren't less violent in relationships, they just have a more socially acceptable outlet for that violence. They also think women should make that sacrifice. Women disagree. As for south east Asia... You know the 4b movement is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:13 PM
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Because society isn't working for anyone but the rich at this point. In fact it's harming most people. Why fight for something that harms you? It makes more sense to let it burn down and try to make sure whatever rises from the ashes is better for more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:05 PM
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A society without kids is not long for the world. But pairing up and nuclear families do not need to be a part of having kids, especially in the modern worlds The nuclear family is a fairly modern concept, coming with the advent of industrialization. There are many other ways you could structure society and raising children than within a pair bond. Paying people to be patents would probably work better than trying to force people to be in relationships they dontht want to be in or raising kids t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:03 PM
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Which women are those? Coz neither I nor most of my female friends feel safe, and it's not due to socioeconomic standards, race or ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:58 AM
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We do have a choice. If a man does that, he no longer gets access to us or our lives, and we warn off all our girlfriends off him and any woman he brings around if he still goes around the same circles. And he becomes a pariah among women. Ostracization is a powerful social tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:57 AM

Sure if you want to make money that way. I wouldn't. I value my privacy. But for people who do want to, it is valuable. But what an individual considers valuable, varies greatly from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:38 AM

Sure we could. But that's assuming any male attention is something women find valuable or desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:29 AM

Benefits of relationships include: -being seen and validated as a man/woman through polarity instead of lingering as a genderless blob As a woman this isnt something I'd consider a benefit. I am my gender. There's no need to prove it to anyone. Or be in a relationship in order to be a woman. Nor does a man. Im bi. My gender remains the same whether my partner is a man, woman, enby or no one. -having access to sex and sexual empowerment (including words and gestures) What with the orgasm gap in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:27 AM
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Cross eyes can be cute AF. Why wouldn't you believe him? Because you don't find it attractive? Or are you offended that he might find people you don't deem attractive as attractive as you, so you feel like you're less attractive somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:19 AM
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Except attraction is subjective . One of the thugs I like on people are large and crooked noses. Thats not "objectively attractive". But I don't care what other people find attractive when I'm dating someone. It's irrelevant. They're not the ones dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:16 AM
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Here's the stats on the orgasm gap. Whether they can't, don't care to, or are clueless that the women aren't getting off, I don't know but: Women have a 15% chance of orgasm in a hetero ONS. 85% in a wlw ONS. 60% chance of orgasm in a committed hetero relationship. 90% in a committed wlw relationship (for comparison Men have a 95% chance of orgasm untill their thirties in both scenarios and then it starts to decline due to physiological changes) When you add the risk of pregnancy, STIs and socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:00 PM
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I have sex primarily for my sexual pleasure. If that isn't important, yes, I'd rather use my hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:52 PM
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Less attractive doesn't mean they won't find someone desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:33 PM
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Edit: Would she be right to reject all the guys who are showing her interest now? You're allowed to reject anyone, for any reason. It's always "right" because you are under no obligation to date anyone. Or give them a chance. Settling is not mandatory. Or even adviseable. And I've never been fat, but I don't date people who are rude or cruel to people based on appearance. If they weren't attracted to me when I was fat (hypothetical) but weren't dicks about it I might go out with them. If they we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:16 PM
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