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DiscussionCopperstoner/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:57 AM
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DiscussionCopperstoner/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:06 PM
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No it’s not bad, if you pay yourself. I personally (M, 27) prefer, if she pays her own part on the first date herself, because this shows a bit her will for independence. On the second and the third date we can invite each other, if everything goes smooth. After all I want a partner and not a obedient housewife. All in all it comes down to personal preference, though. You want to pay for your own part? Then do that. You want to invite him? Then do that. You want to be invited? As a women it’s ve…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/23 10:20 AM
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That depends on what he is searching for or what he wants. If he just wants to fuck around and have short flings he probably won't have any problems, if he wants to settle down he is indeed the problem. The assumption that everyone wants to have a long relationship and wants to settle down is incorrect.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 12:49 PM
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So? What are you going to do about it? For starters I would ask your room mate to take you with him for a party. It sounds like you are students so it might just be some cheap party as well. If you have the funds or if you live anywhere in western europe I would also try to get in contact with a therapist, because suicide ideation is not the road you want to travel.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 08:16 PM
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1) How is this related to the sub? 2) Why should I watch a video, which looks like trash based on the thumbnail alone? 3) Why would you post this?
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 09:18 AM
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Have a nice day then, I've made my point either way :) ​ PS: "Tone" is completly irrelevant, when determining the correctnes of claim ;)
/r/ExRedPill07/01/23 11:12 AM
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I honestly don't get you... OP was talking about going nofap, you bring in "porn free", which is not nofap. According to your own words it's just about breaking the link between porn and jerking off. Then you continue to talk about being him being "porn free", while this are still two seperate things. (Technically one could even watch porn, while being "nofap") I bring in that those are not the same things, but you somehow attack me, while I try to establish a clear definition for those two? ​ T…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/23 05:26 PM
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Well, I simply want to have clear definitions and yes, the weirdos on Reddit are part of why I think it's important to have a clear distinction here. "nofap" = No masturbation, but sex is okay "porn free" = No masturbation to porn, but masturbation and sex is generally ok
/r/ExRedPill06/01/23 12:11 PM
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First you misunderstood the question. The question is "Is porn 'worse' than sex?" or "Is sex bad also bad for your brain in which porn is?", which was my main point and which was never answered by any study 'no fap' people pulled up. Then you link some seemingly random article, which seems more like a philosophical opinion piece on this topic at worst or an informed guess at best. This is not science. ​ If porn wasn't an issue, we wouldn't have thousands of women right here on Reddit, complainin…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/23 12:07 PM
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And it would... Because porn is not sex; not in execution, your brain, nor reality. Yes, sex is obviously better and hits at least my brain even harder. Everything feels electified and concentrated into fever dream like flash. The touch, the smell, the spicy things you do or which are done to you. Fapping to not always be horny, while you are single and/or without a F+ and sex as the real deal, which goes way harder. btw. care to link a study, which shows that porn (not fapping) releases more or…
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 06:04 PM
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Pornfree is not noFap, though. You can easily fap to your thoughts as well, thus staying "porn free", while you still jerk off. You seem to fuck two to three times a week as well, so there should be no shortage of fresh memories you or him could use. "Oh, yes her/his headjob felt so fucking good! God, I can't await the next time!" *fap fap fap* So blindly conflating porn with fapping is wrong per se and feels very limiting.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 05:57 PM
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This doesn't work for me. Especially, if I'm regularly training. It's nice, if it works for you, though. Is it nice to feel asexual? This seems kind of like a boring thing to me? After all good sex is one of the best things, which can happen.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 03:31 PM
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Most of it is not based on science and until that I'll consider it on the same level as believing in star signs or religion. Considering that they don't see cumming during sex as the same thing, which would rob you again of your super powers it's even dumber. ​ BUT: It can for sure help some people, it just won't bring you all the benefits, which are claimed. If I personally would start to try something like that I would be horny all the time and way angrier. I would probably be out all night to…
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 11:58 AM
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There could be thousands of reasons and the only thing we can do here is to guess. My guess is probably as good as your guess...
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 01:28 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 08:57 PM
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Then unfollow the sub.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 08:46 PM
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I was bored. So....
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 09:14 PM
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Yipp. My ex-gf, which I'm still good friends with told me the same, when we talked about our love interests. For her that was so bad that she asked me twice for a good fuck. That is basically the reason we are fucking from time to time, when none of us has a relationship or a love interest and we are both "in need". Even now it's hard for me to believe that so many men seem to be really bad as lovers, because to me it was always quite easy. Like come on guys, you also have your tounge and your f…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 11:56 AM
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For ONS it's easy: You get your pleasure either way, but you need to put in some "work" to get the women to cum. If you know what you do it's still easy, but if a man only cares about himself he can fuck, cum and leave. For the rest? I don't know I just get the complaint from some of my female friends around me.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:37 PM
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I believe it to be true, most women by mentioning that they are womenalone can get dozens of men in their dm in minutes. would the solutionbe becoming high value and if so what would that mean? In theory yes, but in reality it's not really a blessing for women. A short story to put this into perspective: My ex gf and I departed kind of in good terms and we stayed friends. She lives now quite far away, but we text each other from time to time on a platonic basis. She is **"objectively" cute and g…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 05:22 PM
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„How many plates have you spun so far?“ “Why did this girl have better grades in class back then?“ “If you had the chance to choose freely between different women, which one would you choose?“ —> “The hottest!“ —> Isn‘t that hypergamy.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 12:08 PM
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What y’all do with people like this? My goodness lol Stop interacting with them. I've decided a long time ago that my time is too precious for bullshit I hate. So if you are hating it, then why are you still spending time with them. I've cut out so many toxic POS and it's much more peaceful now. Also applicable for those who are dragging you down or those who are taking your engery. :)
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 07:37 PM
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I do! I still cheer about the fatct that this certificated internet douche is gone from Youtube, Twitch and Tik Tok for now.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 09:10 PM
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There are many healthier alternatives, but the problem is that they require work. I personally like the philosphy of stoicism for example, but it will take you at least half a year, if you want to implement it in your life and it requires work and reflection. If you say no that is not my philosophy, then there is philosophical pessimism, philosophical nihilsm, philosophical optimism, etc. Hell, if you are into "self help", then there is also Tim Ferris. You could read "The Art Of War". If you ar…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 09:20 PM
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The Instagram Stories I see from friends-of-friends, who are still studying are trying to tell me something different. First it was health at every size, which is and was always bullshit and this was 3-4 years ago. Two years ago there was a massive uprise of "If you want to go to a beach, then you have a beach body" stories and one year ago it was all about stretch marks and "body diversity". This is is all very fine and I guess some people can profit from a free confidence boost. ​ I personally…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 10:10 PM
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The whole "body positivity" movement is still a puzzel to me. Like sure, you should like your body, but you don't need a movement for that.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 09:54 PM
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Yes, that was basically my point. It's quite universal as both want someone to rely on, given that both want a relationship and not a short fling. Men and women will both look for the same core characteristics and want to avoid the same things, if the relationship should be stable. Sure I personally would look for a more adventurous person as I'm more in this category. Just like someone who prefers routine would look for someone who is more on the routine side of things. That's my whole point, t…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 09:50 AM
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Maybe just type “What to look for in a partner” (without the women) into google and you will find several articles. Point is: It is usually the same. On the positive side: A few core characteristics like honesty, “doesn’t cheat” and loyalty + the characteristics you like about women. (being adventurous vs. preferring routine, being extrovert vs. being introverted, etc) On the negative side: Unprocessed trauma, narcissistic tendencies, lying, being manipulative. Basically the same things women wo…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 06:16 AM
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I know what you want to get across and I generally would support the message, but in your text are so many red flags. HVM or speaking about becoming high value being proud that rich men will fly you out, even though you are „curvy“ You telling us that you had two HVM and probably several ex bf‘s „learn to become more value” This just reeks like r/FDS
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 06:01 AM
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You did? I didn’t. There are quite amazing 22 year olds as well, which would be character match for me. It is just way less likely.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/22 05:52 AM
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Lmao. I’m 26 and I’m more likely to date a 30 year old women than 22 year old women. Still beautiful, but usually way more mature than 20-22 year olds. Of course I have friends who would only date women younger than them, but in the end it’s not that bad.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/22 08:59 PM
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No, don’t worry. I just wanted to explain why I reacted the way I did and why I wanted to get out my message. More or less to provide the background why I was a bit harsh Your method is valid as well and I think it works on many small things.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 10:18 PM
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I somehow get what you want to do and respect that. I kind of got "triggered" as this often suggested by outside people who don't know what happend. In my experience people also don't really change that much. I'll use first my ex girlfriend, myself and our relationship as exampel: My ex gf is a troubled character. She goes from "I'm the best in the world" to "I'm trash" in the span of a day. She is very insecure in lot's of aspects in her life, but a confident perfectionist in others. When she l…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 10:04 PM
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No special situation with women and this thread is not for me, but talking things out? Really? In too many situations a hard cut from a person is required to safe your mental health. Especially if talking before did not help or if the transgression was too sever. So as friendly reminder: You are not the asshole, if you remove assholes from your circles.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 10:55 AM
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My father and also my mother worked most of the time. My father was even more extrem as there was always too less money and so he had to work overtime so that every loan was paid on time. On top of that it turned out that our personality was not a good match and so we had a few fights. Ironically I'm now noticing that we have very much in common in regards to our personality, just with a different twist to it. We both are hyperactive, tend to hyperfocus, tend to strive for power, are quite stoic…
/r/ExRedPill03/08/22 08:49 PM
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You are right. Waste of time.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 06:33 AM
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From personal experience with women and my own experience it’s just not true anyways. I’m rather single than to be with “any women” and so are plenty of men I know. On the other hand there are plenty of women who can’t be alone based on their behaviour in relationships. The same is true vice versa. Many women who want the right man and many men, who take any women. But let’s pretend it’s true for the sake of the argument: Why should you care? If it is this way you wouldn’t be able to change it. …
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 09:25 PM
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Yipp. my ex just wanted to fuck without a condom for example, but I did not feel good about it anymore as she was late multiple times. For her it was either sex without a condom or no sex at all. We had way less sex after that and it was one of the many reasons we broke up. Edit: Should add that she was on the pill and it was also clear that it would have been an abortion, if she would have gone pregnant.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 08:28 PM
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At the momen I'm just writing off you, but not based on the virtue of you being a women. To me it doesn't seem that you are either not able to let go of your traumatic (?) expierence regarding your pregnancy or that you are not willing to debate in good faith.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 08:25 PM
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Okay, one last time in good faith: I'm explaining why I think that your argument falls flat as sex and one night stands are hardly rational and I think that most people don't think about it that way. And to show you, while you are women, that you are indeed not speaking about "women" as whole on this topic: * One time a 17 year old girl pretended to be older than a friend of mine so she can suck him off on field near a party. She also wanted to fuck, but he didn't. * At a holiday he fucked with …
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 08:21 PM
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If it was about severity, then the death sentence would actually work as deterrent, but they aren't. ​ The human mind mainly works on the percieved probability that something is happening. You hear or know a lot people died drinking alcohol? You'll most likely think that alcohol is a real problem. You only have positive experiences surrounding alcolhol and you don't know any hardcore alcoholics? You'll most likely don't think much of it. You don't know many people who died of lung cancer? Smokin…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 07:44 PM
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Show me where I "mansplain" how women feel. Come on, go ahead. Edit 1: I would never say that men don't have women falling at their feet. I've seen this happen on multiple occasions. Hell, it even happend to me in some settings.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 07:35 PM
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Bro or sister: I'm not here to convince you, but I'm pointing out that the argument "Women can get pregnant..." is quite weak. Given that one night stands are rarely rational, effective contraceptions exists and the chances of unwanted pregnancies are incredibly low. It's further weakend by the fact that men are also royally fucked by a unwanted pregnancy with a stranger, but to a lesser degree. That has nothing to do with you or the risks you are willing to take. I don't think that you or any w…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 07:15 PM
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If your partner and you fuck for a year with supbar condome use then there is only a 15% chance that you get pregnant. If you fuck only once, well guess what, it's way smaller. So in your case you and your partner were just incredibly lucky or incredibly bad in the usage of condoms + whatever you used as second option. I would wager more to unlucky, though. --> https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms ​ Let's not even start about the practice of "ste…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 06:38 PM
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Women can get pregnant only makes sense, if no form of contraception is involved or if you argue from a „evolutionary perspective“. (Almost) no one is approaching sex from a rational point of view. It’s most of the times about satisfying desires, getting off or getting a adrenaline kick. The matter of physical safety or perceived physical safety is much stronger in my eyes.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 05:43 PM
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What kind of question is this? Obviously it’s the same or almost the same as men. Friendship, emotional support, support in the professional life and a whole lot of other friendship things. To be more specific: Through the kindness of one women I became more kind and forgiving myself. Due to trauma I tended to see kindness as foolish, but I was taught something better. Quite a few have invited me to a party, which I would have never seen without them. This is very valuable as this happened, when…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/22 05:20 PM
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On the flip side: Those who get big fast tend to live shorter due to more test in their blood. Testosterone mutes your immune system a bit, which is not great for longevity. I know what you mean, though. I’m on the other side of the spectrum and in 2 1/2 month I jumped from benching 35-40kg to 60kg and I can still add 1-4kg relatively easily. And I’m only there 3-4 times a week.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 12:44 PM
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Avoid weider routines and use of machines, better to be a hard worker for now, forcing your core to get strong as well. I honestly like machines, but I mix them with compound excercises. Let's say I need to perform squats, then I tend to use the hack squat machine every second training I need to do squats. Especially when I try to up the weights I use. The same is true for the chest machine. First two sets on the bench and at the last set I use the chest press, because I don't want to suffocate …
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 01:41 PM
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Ehm. if you do a full body workout, then you should rest 2-3 days until the next training. If you want to train more often a then push/pull split or a upper body/lower body split might be better for you. I don’t know your regeneration or how hard you train, but too less rest can stunt your muscle growth. Edit: Check out one of the weight lifting subs for further information on training plans, rest and so on.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 12:30 PM
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What is your trainings plan and how often are you in the gym and for how long are you lifting weights? Let’s pretend you have a proper full body plan and you are going at least twice a week for 1 hour to the gym: You normally can add about 0,5-1kg every second time for at least the first three months and sometimes up to 6 months. And know this: Going twice a week is the minimum. You skip one of those two workouts and you won’t get any progress. One workout every other week still prevents muscle …
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 12:07 PM
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From a personal perspective this shit can still be very enjoyable and funny. As man I lost count of the many dangerous things I did, which could have even killed me. God bless that we don’t share the same risk aversions. From a strict rational you are completely right, but humans generally don’t act rational.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/22 10:50 AM
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Yeah. Double so if the person is attractive. It would get old fast, but a bit of fucking around would still be fun.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 06:56 AM
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Is it now about casual sex or relationships? I’m getting confused here: A) It’s only about casual sex —> Visiting a shopping mall won’t help as you only will see couples. Try a shitty club or some village parties. In my country many ugly drunk men still fuck around. B) It’s about relationships “in the prime” —> They still happen and this can be easily disproven.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 08:26 PM
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It still easily disproves the original claim, which are made. The claims are normally like “ALL WOMEN ONLY WANT CHADS” or “80% of the women are ONLY interested in 20% of the men.”. Which is simply not true. What are you actually arguing for? “There are still many men out there, who will never get a man/women, because of their looks”? PS: Nobody said it would be easy. I’m also single at the moment and I’m very tall (dad bod like), with a good paying “high status” job.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 09:37 AM
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Based on your describition you already want to walk away and only the "What will happen, if I leave him" question is holding you back. If that is truly the only thing, which is holding you back then the relation ship is over from my POV. A few things, which are major red flags for me: If we watch a show with men and women in it, it's now a whole thing about gender. Clashes and discussions about men and women in which he takes his opinion from fit & fresh. Unbased thought: He will devalue women a…
/r/ExRedPill23/05/22 04:17 PM
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The question I have is: Why would I want to date someone 10 year younger than me? Sure looks and fucking around, but something longer? Nah, I’ll take the women with more life experience.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 06:30 AM
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Don’t hurt yourself on your way to the door ;)
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 01:46 PM
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His beliefs on women? Women can do whatever they want and fuck with whomever they want as far as he is concerend. It's just unattractive to him, if a women fucks around too much. His personality: Outgoing, open and he tends to talk about "financial freedom". He lives always in extremes as well. He just had 4x12 hour shifts? That often means he goes out on day five, get's drunk as fuck, while he is dancing in some club until 4 am, but on the next day he might still be up for a 5 hour hike. He is …
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 09:55 PM
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A friend of mine is physically not traditionally masculine. (baby face, short, super slim) His face is almost a 1:1 copy of his pretty sister. Yet he has the most success with women out of our friends group and most of us are way taller and traditionally masculine looking. (Beard, tall, „jawlines“, muscles) So I have it in good authority that you don’t have to be „masucline“ to get women.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 09:43 PM
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God this sub is just cringe… Grow up and touch some grass…
/r/seduction30/03/22 04:13 PM
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It’s a great place to look at cringe content, though.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/21 06:46 PM
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Young people with good education only leave Eastern Europe because of how poor it is, since all of our money has been ‘relocated’ to you during both wars. I spent some time with a polish girl and her friends and in her case it was the regressive policies of Poland. Making abortion illegal, general misogynie aka "the women needs to stay at home" yada yada. (So the same views, which are currently hold by the far right in my country.) At least that's what she told me, which seemed genuine. The poli…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 12:47 AM
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1) No my country did never own slaves. Maybe, if you go back to 1000-1500 and you count Vasalls and farmers as slave. After all they had to work for their king. As Kings and dynasties changed a lot during that time and my country was not unified at this point I would not even count that. 2) Interesting question, but no. Even, if my country had many colonies I would not be ashamed. I was not born at that time and if I was I would have most likely been worked to death from my own countrymen. Or se…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 12:26 AM
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In my country it's okay to date colleagues. It actually happens quite often and given the last few company parties it will probably happen soon as I was the one who prevented it. But well, fuck it. In the worst case I'll change the company or I'll change the project. I'm also thinking about hooking up with my ex. She is a bit crazy, but because of covid I can't meet anyone anyways. Fuck covid.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 10:25 PM
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Hard disagree on the manipulation/„trick“ part. Men and women alike can be successfully manipulated, even when they are super secure. Giving yourself a false sense of security just makes you a easier target.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 12:09 AM
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It’s been quite some time since I saw posts of that sub so take this with a grain of salt: To me most of the posts seems to be written by people who are socially challenged or all of them are not older than 20. Overanalyse everything and most likely don’t have success with anything.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 01:19 AM
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Except that this also wouldn’t work out for most of them. Traditional roles go in both directions and if you can’t provide your wife the things she want’s you won’t be happy for long.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 06:25 PM
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It really depends on the reference. From a European view Poland, Czech and Slovakia would not really count as western. Especially not Poland as there is a big cultural shift. There is a reason why most young people with a good education want to leave the country.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 01:53 PM
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Do you mean easter European? Because half of Europe is definitely western
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 12:27 AM
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If they are dating patriarchal men, while railing against the patriarchy they are fucking losers. If you base your arguments in moral you can’t be immoral at the same thing. Also: What you describe is kind of a typical behaviour isn’t it? They can’t force themselves to love fat Billy, just like I can’t force myself to love fat Mary. Where does that leave us? For me it’s easy. It’s counterproductive to fight against your urges and your character so I’ll try to use it for something positive instea…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 05:47 PM
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Disclaimer: It's hard to give help for someone who you don't even know. It's also hard to do it for friends, because you never know both sides of the story and people tend to not be honest with themselves. At least I know my friends and their many of their personal weaknesses. A personal anecdote: In my longest relationship ~ 6 years my gf and I had many problems. She was and is emotionally quite unstable, on the other hand I'm not really emotional. She seemd to burn with emotion, while I loved …
/r/ExRedPill02/11/21 12:45 PM
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I know a few couples, but naming them wouldn't help you as you don't know them anyways. All of them have gotten their gf by being likeable, shy and around women. You also wrote that you are boring and dull, but what does that mean to you? I for example have a few things I tend to talk about: "Work, IT, Computer, Network" --> Interesting for me, but if you are not into this topics you would be super bored listening to me "Social relationships, gossip, why has person x done y?" --> Interessting fo…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 04:43 PM
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I’ll guarantee you that many „charismatic“ people will be „too much“ and annoying for many people including women. Back to the topic: You’ll have to learn to play your cards right. You are naturally shy and not interested in many things? Good! There are women out there who love quiet men. You are shy? There are women who love shy men. Just stop being a whiney guy, because that is what is really unattractive.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 02:40 PM
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Wait until some guy tells them that he was heavily attracted to this or that other women during his relationship.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 11:45 PM
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Well… I’m certainty friends with some women I would also consider a relationship with, if they wouldn’t be in one at the moment. I’m not waiting for them to become single of course, but if I’m single at this moment I might soothe their pain. (Realistically I wouldn’t start anything with them as I generally value friendships way more than ONS)
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 01:12 PM
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Oh, yeah. I fully agree with that.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 12:45 PM
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It doesn't work that way, though? From my experience I'm either attracted to a women or not and I knew after 3 minutes of meeting them. I might loose attraction based on her interests and how she spends her time. I might get sexually attracted by her later, because she fulfills a kink of mine, but that's it. The one thing that never happend is that I had romantic interests, because she is nice and warm to me. So it's hard to believe that women on the other hand can fall in love, because you trea…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 12:24 PM
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That's a easy question, if you don't go too deep: (bad) experiences / role models: Experiences form you. If your parents lived in a bad relationship you will see this as normal. You will most likely try to emulate at least on subconscious level Humans have more than one trait: Let's imagine a facist even though he is a facist, he might still be a great father or husband. The CEO of an arms company might also be super nice to his wife. Who knows? Traits you see as bad are seen as good by others: …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 11:10 AM
1

Tell me women don't talk to you, without telling me that women don't talk to you.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 09:02 AM
1

This way you are also filtering out guys with a high libido. So if you are a women who also wants to fuck every day, you might shoot yourself into your own foot, with this.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 08:37 AM
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Is this sub now about dating advice? ahhh, whatever... ​ First: You won't weed out sexist men by delaying sex. The "old gentlemen" archetype might applaud you for it, because you are finally "a women who values herself". ​ Second: The answer is the same as for the most dating/relationship advice: Communication At some point during your first or second date you'll talk about what you like and your worldviews and you can just mention it there. "One thing I never understood is casual sex... That mi…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 08:27 AM
1

I’m not a ghetto type, but I hang around with a whole lot of different people and for me it’s natural to change my dialect/wording depending on who I hang with. Eg.: I speak „school german“ with the german people in my company, because they don’t understand my dialect. When I’m around the people I grew up with I speak my dialect. Depending on how I want to present myself I use different words depending on who I’m speaking with. Sometimes I bring a word from one group to another for shit and gigg…
/r/ExRedPill27/09/21 09:30 AM
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Being a femcel/Incel has been used to describe a ideology since a few years now. It’s not solely about „Can I get sex“ anymore… But back to your bad faith answer: If my friends, which are in their mid twenties think that this or that women over 40 is totally hot, then you can be sure many +40 men will say the same. I mean sure we all will get old and „unfuckable“, but that is true for men and women.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/21 03:16 PM
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Not what I wrote, but still a nice bad faith answer, though. Are you by chance a femcel? At least you sound like one.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/21 02:31 PM
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Oh come on… Many young guys would fuck the 40 year old mom next door and if they are attracted to her…. The things you find attractive are also changing constantly and even though I’m only 25 it’s hard for me to see 18 year olds as adults and not as kids. I’m literally: „You look cute, but except for drunk sex I won’t be interested in you.“. The same is true for most of my friends.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/21 01:35 PM
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If I want advice from clowns I’ll just ask my friends, so no.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/21 04:54 PM
1

Who said that I want to be in such a relationship? This is just a observation about myself to which kind of women I’m attracted to the most. Nothing more and nothing less. Also: Many of those women are not stupid, but a relationship with them would be stupid. Completely different things.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 08:55 PM
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I can't imagine someone who had a very boring, predictable, emotionally supportive childhood would turn into an adult who seeks constant risk-taking and emotional manipulation. You can't imagine that people who grew up in predictable environment can also crave uncertainity? That's strange to me... Even as child I would wait until the very last moment to learn for a test or to do my homework, because only then I was able to really focus. This little adrenalin kick was also always funny and reward…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 04:43 PM
2

I've added a edit to dvelve into that.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/21 10:29 AM
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The problem for many men is that they can’t get a genuine women perspective, because they don’t have genuine friendships with women. How do you want to get a real answer, if the trust isn’t there you can’t really talk about this topics. At least that’s my take on it and what I see in my social circles for those who struggle with dating.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 08:08 PM
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Real and genuine friendships between men. They are hard to find and often forged over years, but that’s one of the best outlets. I can’t count the times friends came to me to vent about their life and their problems and how often I did it for them.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 07:34 PM
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No, they even contradict each other and then you have the “reversals” in which you can also do the opposite to reach a goal. If you are not already good with social cues and group dynamics you won’t be able to apply them effectively anyways. The book mainly shows you how people have gained power and it makes you more aware of social power dynamics.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 01:20 PM
2

Nah, you are not. It’s the same for me although I read it out of interest. Everyone online was stating that it’s such a immoral, evil and dark book so naturally I had to read it. Same as with The Prince, which was more interesting than anything.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 01:17 PM
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These people are using it anyways as most of them can be „discovered“ by observing social dynamics. So I would rather hone my brain to recognise these tactics and counter them if needed.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/21 11:09 PM
2

I disagree here as „48 Laws of Power“ just shows how people gained power and why it can work under circumstance X. Most of them are really simple observations anyone could make, if the person is aware of their surroundings. While reading I discovered that most people, myself included, use some of „the laws“ without noticing. It generally made me more aware of certain power dynamics, but that’s about it. Sure you will act like „a psychopath“, if you try to apply all of them all the time, but why …
/r/ExRedPill21/08/21 04:39 PM
2

Don’t worry
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 02:44 PM
1

…some marketing campaigns might get you to try coke/pepsi, if you only know one. Some might bring you to try something new altogether… Some have the potential to change the image of a brand or a store… You seem to think in black and white as „If I can’t change the preferred brand of a person than it’s clearly not working effectively.“. In the case above you are still yourself, but you hopefully have more facets, which you can present to a higher degree or a lesser degree. You aren’t a monolith a…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/21 02:44 PM
1

My comment wasn’t even directed at you?
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 07:47 PM
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No the stoic principles don’t make you a silent badass… Please check the philosophy out and not the bastardised version of RP.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 07:33 PM
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Hard disagree from me. Most of this tactics are just manipulation and manipulation works, if it wouldn’t work there would be no marketing and yet we have marketing. And as with marketing you can often build up initial attraction to „get your shot“ with simple tricks or „game“, which is often just common sense and being social savvy. If you are smart you just use selective truth and no real lie as you can’t keep up with lies anyways. A few examples on what I mean: You aren’t really comfortable wi…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/21 07:27 PM
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“I don’t have any STDs at all” isn’t really convincing to me, though. If she is sleeping with me for fun, then she is probably doing it with others as well.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/21 05:03 PM
1

….why is he loading a magazine into a revolver?
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 10:49 PM
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Yes … we call that death!
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 02:45 PM
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Edit: I was just thinking about it again and it’s actually false. Even according to my old comment. Nobody is waiting for „the winner“, but you need to fulfil certain standards to attract a partner. And who is the most attractive? People who have their shit together and who already made it through hard times. Original Comment: I think it’s true in certain way. If you are a mentally a mess and you are not physically desirable how should they fall in love with you? Would you date a mental trainwre…
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 02:03 PM
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Sure, but what you are saying is also true for colleagues at work. For some of my old friends I don’t really meet anymore or literally anyone else who I’m not always hanging with. Edit: Like what’s your point with this? Literally everyone has a different viewpoint on this or literally any topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:37 AM
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Ähem. yepp, same and also those who have more than me. It's even there, when I was fatter I was more open to date chubby girls, but now I'm not. Speaking about socio economic class.. I once dated a (crazy) girl, which had some ultra rich parents, her clothes were literally more worth than my monthly income. So what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:09 PM
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This sub never ceases to amaze me… As I wrote here already a few times: I never had problems with women and I’m not rich, my teeth is kinda crooked and I have a dadbod. Most people here seem to be autistic and don’t know how to socialise. If you have a passion/hobby try to find someone who is interested in it as well and be open to new things and boom now you have chances. Edit: Just to add it: Yes even DnD and Gaming can work! In my DnD group there are several women and I can see myself drinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:40 AM
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No? If some stranger talks to me on the train chances are that I’m pissed and I’m a man. I don’t want and I don’t need to be friends with everyone.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/21 11:25 AM
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That’s a hard disagree from me on everything you just wrote. Especially the “this is sexism!” part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 05:54 PM
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Yes and that tends to happen, if women do the majority of the childcare before the break up. That’s what this law is supposed to cover. The children should stay by the main caregiver and the person who sacrificed his/her career should receive alimony. And who will be that in the lion share of break ups?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:59 PM
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Bro… If you are the one who earns less and you sacrifice your carrier for staying with the children, then you can also take “half of her stuff”. That’s the way a work split is supposed to work and that’s how the money split is supposed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:51 AM
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Are they? Here you even have higher earning women who get treated like shit from their loser boyfriends and they think it’s okay. If your friend gets treated like this you would probably tell him to dump her or that he has no balls. But women normally hear “He is such a good and hardworking man, he just has a temper. Why did she leave him? :( blablablabla” If you are a man you don’t hear shit like that. So while women are more privileged by the law men are way more privileged in social matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:46 AM
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Yepp. “Why do I have a bad health?” “Bad nutrition, a straining job, I smoke and I had bad luck with my genetics” <— This isn’t a answer you want to hear as you can’t really change it (fast), though.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/21 10:36 AM
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Yes and we call that bisexuality and pansexuality, if they don’t have a problem with it and heterosexuality if you have a problem with certain sets of genitalia. That’s why it would be “gay” to be into someone who has a dick and heterosexual, if you are into a mtf with a artificial vagina… (Not that it matters much as long as both are happy with it.)
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 11:49 AM
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If you get hard by seeing a penis and balls you are definitely gay or bisexual. This whole “trans women are women”thing doesn’t really apply to dating as it’s still very important for almost everyone else, if the person you are dating has a penis or a vagina. Edit: Added bisexual
/r/ExRedPill27/06/21 09:10 AM
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B) Is the answer for many I guess, especially the "women love assholes" thing. If the girl you want is rejecting you and going back to the guy, which treats her like shit you are inclined to think that being a asshole is the solution. Many might also get better dating results initially as TRP tells you to dress well, go out and ask women and if you do this, you wiill have some success just by chance.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/21 01:41 PM
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You can exchange men with people. Find someone with low self esteem, love bomb them and they will do everything to still get your love. That's human and it works on men, women and everything in between.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/21 01:36 PM
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That’s just not true lmao At least not in my or in the neighbouring countries idk about the US, though. Edit: More here --> https://www.protection-of-minors.eu/en/rquest/1 Edit 2: But I know that laws and what is considered morality varies wildly between countries and cultures. If a 20 year old has sex with a 16 year old no one in Austria bats an eye for example, but the same men/women would be jailed on the grounds of whatever in the US. Everyone above 16 can buy and consume beer in Austria, sp…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/21 04:57 PM
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I wouldn’t view 16-18 year olds as children. Juvenile and they shouldn’t date anyone over 25? Sure, but they aren’t child’s anymore.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/21 07:03 AM
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And that’s why you often see fat guys with beautiful women or fat guys with fat women. :) Your assertion doesn’t match with reality… Will muscles help? For sure! They just aren’t t h e s o l u t i o n. Loosing fat will definitely help, though.
/r/seduction12/06/21 08:18 AM
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The point of no fap is often described as “keeping testosterone in the body”, which should have the benefit of being more active and not becoming complacent. You always expand some **testosterone once you ejaculate and if anything you become more complacent, if you are with a women. Why would you change something, if you are already with a women? Let alone a women who loves you? ** According to the studies I’ve seen that is tiny amount, which isn’t even relevant for muscle growth or similar thin…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/21 07:34 AM
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I was never really “red pill” I lurked the sub for 2 months or something, took some of the good generic advice and that was it. I also discovered the 48 laws of power, which I would recommend to anyone. You are more like to see, if someone tries to manipulate you or others. Now to the big turn offs: “All men are like that, all women are like that” “Women’s nature is xyz” “Men’s nature is xyz” Fake Alpha stuff Every women above 25 is worthless The fanfics they call field report Downvoting everyth…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/21 06:03 AM
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No? At least from 16-25 fucking around for the sake of “I’m horny” is quite normal. You don’t believe me? Just stay in a hostel or go to a club or bar for a younger audience. The same with tinder. No one expects a relationship on tinder. You match, you write a bit and you meet to have fun. If everything is nice a relationship might be the result, but more often than not it’s just fucking.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/21 08:42 PM
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Fine, then don’t get all pissy when you find out it’s not your baby, or get used for money 😭😂 First: That's part of the risk in the dating game and in all kinds of relationships. Some will always be using other people for their own gain and very often that even happens under the guise of morality. Second: I can be pissy all I want, just like she could be pissy all she wants. It's still a relationship and we are both in there, because we like it. If one doesn't like it anymore it ends, there is n…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/21 05:37 PM
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What? There are also a lot of women who just want fool around anyways.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/21 04:04 PM
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I disagree here… If we are talking about adults, then it’s their responsibility to not get manipulated. After all they are adults and they need to decide for themselves. That’s one of the consequences of freedom. Also, what’s with the weird rape comparison?
/r/ExRedPill01/06/21 04:00 PM
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For me? The pseudo Alpha shit, the unrealistic field reports, calling everyone who disagrees a “beta”, claiming that all women are like this and all men are like this, the massive insecurity you can almost fee in everything they write, the massive homophobia, etc. And yes some of the things you write work … with the right kind of women. The problem is for me that they wouldn’t work on the kind of women I want to be with unless I destroy her psychologically and I’m not interested in doing that. E…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/21 11:45 AM
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Bullying is inexorably connected to western culture […] God I love claims like that… As if in Russia, China or in Japan people don’t bully… Edit: What do you even mean with “western culture”? Because the culture in my country is already different to the culture of neighbouring countries. If you now start to compare the culture of Italy or Denmark with US culture, you will also notice massive differences. To lump this differences into “western culture” is laughable.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/21 05:40 PM
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As far as the sugar daddy girls being “quality partners”. It’s a temptation men never get offered and the access to young women has never been easier... I think younger girls love the excitement and it’s trendy right now it’s become more and more acceptable... I feel bad for our culture though because I think it’s doing a lot of emotional baggage that’s not quite realized yet... For me personally it's still a major red flag, if I women had willingly entered a relationship like that. (I also see …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/21 09:41 AM
1

In reality you are indeed correct on my overestimating in hindsight... Iwent to Arizona State and was involved in athletics and Greek life thenUCF around similar scenes as a coach/nightlife. I do not have anaccurate perspective on the average college student across America, I’mlooking at it From an exaggerated viewpoint. Neither do I to be honest as I'm from a european country and the cultural gap is quite big. I come from a big international city and I spend my vacation travelling over europe. …
/r/ExRedPill22/05/21 09:12 AM
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These girls are chomping at the bit to get on boats, go to California,Miami, Europe, all these places and men will be willing to pay for itit’s just a matter of how low they are willing to go and stomach it. You vastly overestimate the number of girls who are willing to do stuff like that and are able to do stuff like that. Especially the smart and educated ones don't want to rely on some sleaze bag, who wil get "a new one" in one or two years. (And yes there are also educated and smart girls wh…
/r/ExRedPill22/05/21 07:30 AM
1

Jokes on you: I already shot down women, who were too insecure. I don’t want to be with someone, who thinks that other women are a threat for the relationship, just because I have a nice talk with them. I don’t want to think twice, if I can tell my gf that I had a nice talk with Becky at work. And I also don’t want to spend my time with someone who is constantly on the verge of a breakdown, because of some random minor stuff. I know myself and I know that I can’t walk on eggshells all the day to…
/r/ExRedPill21/05/21 11:50 PM
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I personally get why they don’t want a gf who has onlyfans or posts pictures in lingerie on Instagram, but I don’t get the rage about it… The solution is simple: Don’t buy it and don’t start a relationship with women who do that.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/21 11:30 PM
1

Well do you know for sure how many years you’ll lose? In the most cases harmful behaviour just raises your chances, but this doesn’t say anything about a individual. And now is the first time that I’ve heard that intense running damages your heart. Running while you are not really healthy? Sure! You will fuck up yourself with that, but just plain running? I don’t think that there is any evidence that it will take 30 years of your life.
/r/seduction18/05/21 09:58 AM
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I’m not denying that a porn addiction can alter your mind, but as already written in another comment that the same can happen to you with sex, weight lifting or gaming. I’m also not denying you your experience, you know the situation you were in better than me. What I know is that sexual attraction is weird thing, though. Sometimes it’s there, sometimes it isn’t and people are attracted to wildly different things. The women I think are hot are often “meh” for my friends and vice versa and that’s…
/r/seduction18/05/21 05:46 AM
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Read my comment again and try to find out, if I ever said that nobody can get addicted to porn… While you are at it you might want to find out how I think of addiction.
/r/seduction18/05/21 05:32 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ne6uyg/caffeine_alcohol_and_porn_some_of_the_most/gyhnrg0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/seduction17/05/21 09:59 PM
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You can get novelty with your mate too? You won’t fuck daily for more than one year, if you don’t try new things from time to time. You might want try this kink or that kink, because it sounds like fun. You might want to try a few sex toys. She might want to wear sexy lingerie from time to time. You might want to go out in fancy clothes and tease each other the whole evening to add a bit more spice, before you undress each other at home. etc. It’s not like you have vanilla sex every time and tha…
/r/seduction17/05/21 09:58 PM
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The thing is that stuff like that can happen with anything pleasurable. I was together with my ex for about six years and we basically fucked daily the first five years. In the first three years we had weeks in which we fucked two or three times a day. Heck, we had Sundays in which we got up, then we fucked. We cooked something, teased each other and then we fucked again and we did the same in the evening. This should also blunt my pleasure response, right? That I feel like a king after a hard w…
/r/seduction17/05/21 08:45 PM
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Well, many people are prepared to pay this price obviously. Especially as the price for coffee and caffeine is pretty small… Also because it’s interesting: In the meanwhile I gained some weight and I lost a shit ton of stamina. If the price I have to pay to be fit now is the possibility that I end up with some heart issues later in my life, then it’s small price compared to what I would pay, if I don’t get into running again. A inactive lifestyle would also kill me, so I’ll choose the one which …
/r/seduction17/05/21 08:20 PM
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It makes a difference, because then it’s very likely that the information is cherrypicked or there is probably false information put right besides side correct information to paint a specific picture. Further a porn addiction is wildly different to viewing porn from time to time. Just like it makes a big difference, if I smoke a blunt once a while or if smoke one every day.
/r/seduction17/05/21 08:14 PM
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Can’t you guys for once link a real study and not some random blog post?
/r/seduction17/05/21 06:42 PM
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Isn’t yourbrainonporn sponsored by some weird american church? Or I am thinking about another “anti porn” site… hm…
/r/seduction17/05/21 06:40 PM
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LMAO, now I want to see a study on how porn is connected to not being able to hold eye contact 😂 Honestly the whole post has a religious touch. “Things have to be pure!” or “I have to be pure!” and if you dare to touch the forbidden substance you are already on the way down!
/r/seduction17/05/21 03:40 PM
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With this argument I shouldn’t ever get into running again, because that shit is addictive to me. It even has a self destructive component as I enjoy to run until I can’t lift my feet anymore… I don’t get this world view… We all wither away anyways, why shouldn’t we enjoy ourselves while we are at it?
/r/seduction17/05/21 03:33 PM
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I know that some of this is sound advice, but the way it’s packaged… This just smells like some “alpha mindset” Instagram page or like some life coach “who wants to make you successful” would present it.
/r/seduction14/05/21 06:07 AM
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God that’s some edgy “alpha” shit…
/r/seduction13/05/21 09:39 PM
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You could have just put this as “This is why needy people are hated.”. I’m a man and I have problems with needed people in general. Most of the things you described apply to non romantic relationships as well. As for romantic ones needy women are also bad partners as the neediness often stems from low self esteem and therefore they need constant validation and they can’t handle criticism. So it’s really “needy people are shit” and not “(only) needy men are shit”.
/r/seduction07/05/21 08:49 PM
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Yes, I mean there is nuance. If she is a friend and starts with “All men are trash...” and we can have a laugh, if I reply with “... you right and every women is a bitch ;)” it’s okay. If this whole stuff is meant 100% earnestly then I’m out.
/r/seduction13/04/21 09:17 AM
1

I’m a man and depending on the context I would either laugh it off or I would do something with someone who isn’t putting a whole gender in the same box.
/r/seduction13/04/21 08:46 AM
1

Well... I don’t know anyone who is nice, who would call themselves nice.
/r/seduction13/04/21 06:47 AM
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Nah, being aloof is not about “being nice”, being aloof is more about not caring about the person in front of you and just doing your stuff. The nice guy(tm) doesn’t do that, the nice guy will probably show big surface level interest and pretend to be interested in the same things.
/r/seduction12/04/21 08:48 PM
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Idk most of the times I only talk about work, about hobbies or what I’m interested in. So if I ask a girl about her, what she is interested in, bla bla, then I’m in 80% of the cases into her. Otherwise I would stick to stuff that interests me. So I go with her opinion.
/r/seduction12/04/21 08:45 PM
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Probably a good idea to abstract the ideas [...] Preach! And that is why I wouldn’t recommend it for people who aren’t already quite good socially. If you start to see the world only through the lenses of this book you’ll be miserable. If you see it as a different view and you take the ideas as input for your own situation it can be valuable and helpful.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/21 09:14 PM
1

I agree, except maybe for “The Art Of Seduction”, which is almost only about manipulation. Some poster her obviously don’t agree and I’m interested in their view point, I honestly hoped for more than “It can be read as psychopathy”, though.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/21 09:05 PM
1

I kinda understand where you come from, but at least to me it’s not worth bothering. (Thanks toxic masculinity, I guess) If some women is turned off by how you are you can always let her go. There are women who are turned on by you and you should go for them. I’m for example quite impulsive,, risk taking, easily bored, quite insensitive, from time to time I struggle with organising, I have a dirty/dark humour and I still perform quite good at my job. There are some women who really dig this comb…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 10:08 PM
1

Fuck... I’m a pick me for my friends and my girlfriend! The absolut beta, because I enjoy cooking and I enjoy that people like my food! ... ... Even though I’m male :((((
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 07:39 PM
1

Not all relationships are romantic but they are relationships. The authors of those books more or less repeat the same stuff over and over in a number of different ways. Thinking about your motives, the motives of people you interact with, how to obtain goals, and if you have the tools to get those goals. I personally would say the same about 48 LP at least, if you are already quite good in the social realm. 48 Laws of Power takes a ... for lack of a better word... microscopic, view of human int…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 09:52 AM
1

At least the first two sound not like you could use them to deal with nasty people? And maybe I should reinforce again: The 48 Laws of Power are not about romantic relationships
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 07:16 AM
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The examples above don’t telegraph “psychopathy” to me. But if you have other book recommendations, Im more than glad to read them.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/21 07:01 AM
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They can also be read as leading qualities, depending on which "law" you use when and on whom. "Law 31: Control the options, get others to play with the cards you deal": This is part of every book about negoation for example. If you come to your boss with a problem you’ve discovered and 3 or 4 possible solutions, he will play with "your hand" and he will most likely like you for it. After all he will have less work and you have the responsibility and with responsibility you’ll gain reputation. "…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 07:22 PM
1

Everything in 48 Rules of Power; do the fucking opposite. What's wrong with them? Especially in business settings, they can be really helpful. Honstely: While reading the book, it seemed like everyone is using some of "the laws" in some situations including my friends (of all genders), my colleagues, my bosses and myself. To me it's just a very acurate description of power dynamics. (Disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend to use the knowledge in a relationship, just like I wouldn't try to use content …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 07:00 PM
2

What you can actually do: If you need a male community you might want to join a martial arts club, which is great because you it will build humility and confidence at the same time. If you don't need a male community you can also join a dance club, which also has the benefit of building confidence. This is for me the number one tip, from which you will get the most. After all you will learn how you have to interact with other people in very natural way. Books I personally really like stoicism, t…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 06:46 PM
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Troll somewhere else...
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 01:55 PM
10

Which it is... I would suspect the same thing if a 20 year old man is getting together with a 35 women....
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 09:41 AM
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Yep. A difference of up to 6 years is still seen quite often, but I don’t think a 20 year women old would rather take the 35 year old man.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 07:24 AM
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So what? They are still ugly and I don’t know why you now want to compare men and women. It’s irrelevant for this discussion if some women fucks a guy outside “her league” or a guy someone “below his league”. It’s also irrelevant if the guy only wants sex, maybe the women in question did not want anything other than sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:47 PM
1

LMAO, your body can’t beat thermodynamics, if you eat less than your body needs you will lose weight and if you eat more you’ll gain weight. So: Get a rough estimate of your calorie output and reduce your input by 300-600kcal every day and you will lose weight. In order to do this properly you’ll need to weigh and add everything with calories you consume. Everything means everything. The fancy cocktail? Probably 600kcal. If you don’t lose weight this way over a month you have overestimated your …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:41 PM
1

Pretext: What people actually mean with it is that this particular man needs to learn how he can interact with women in a casual way. He needs to learn that video games, masturbating and drinking are not things you can or should talk about with a women. So joining something only “for pussy” is doomed to fail. Actual text: 1) Yes he is, but he also needs to stop if she doesn’t like it. If you want “pussy” you need to broaden your social circles and hobby groups are a good way to do it. Especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:49 PM
1

Lmao, I also call overweight women ugly 🤷‍♂️ And if they are both ugly, they are a fit, aren’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:58 AM
1

What else should I call overweight people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:47 AM
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No, because the achieve nothing except more hate for Incels lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:23 AM
1

Man... Last year I also did not get laid, but I just did not care enough to get into a relationship... I had the chance to have at least two hookups despite Corona, but not everyone is into hook ups. As a quick example: My ex wanted to meet me and a few weeks before we talked about fucking and how we both would fuck each other if we were drunk. In your funny statistic I would still count as someone who can’t get laid. From my friends I know that it’s similar... One of them wants this specific gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:22 AM
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And why should that happen? No one cares about some Incels until they kill someone and after they kill someone all of them are rightfully hated more. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:27 AM
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And after that he is dead and 99.999% of the civilised world is glad that he is dead... Most would probably have hoped that he died while he assembled the payload... And some US marines are probably sad, that they did not kill him before it he could kill himself...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:25 AM
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I know that I won’t convince you and I also know, why women won’t touch you with a 4 feet pole... But in case it has to be stated: Women aren’t goods just like men aren’t goods. Love and sex aren’t simple commodities, you can try to force them, but then you stop being a free society. And that’s not even considering the implications of such a system for men as well. “No you can’t date Lisa, she is too pretty for you - it doesn’t matter that you are into each other.” “No you can’t date Jenny, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 08:19 AM
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And how do you want to force them? Do you want to force me (a man), to date in my own league, because my gf “is out of my league” as well? I mean in your world she would be for someone better looking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:36 AM
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Your revenge fantasy won’t happen lmao Most of the people can still date without problems and the ones you can’t are not enough to force a change. Especially not in a society which values individual liberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:32 AM
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And the men they are currently with are general the fit and “desire able” ones... Do you think that they would support a society in which women have less rights? And what would they do to people who rape their sisters, their daughters, their gfs and so on? I mean it’s just Incels (also red pill and mgtow) who complain, everyone else is getting laid and doesn’t have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:22 AM
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Women are not that picky lmao Look how many women get pulled by ugly guys in some bars....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:14 AM
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LMAO, being fat isn’t genetic and losing fat also isn’t genetic... It’s actually quite easy to put on muscles and be hygienic, if you spend some time on it. “Hurr durr, my face is also ugly.” Cool, now find someone who is also ugly, nobody owes you anything and you can’t force people to love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:07 AM
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And you think that the majority of men stays with women, because otherwise they won’t get sex? I don’t even know where I should start with all this assumptions, so let’s start with the obvious: Get some friends, especially female friends. Then you might get rid of your prejudices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 07:18 AM
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Sure but there are many attractive girls I wouldn’t necessarily consider for sex, but if you spend some time together you might fall for each other, without immediate interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 07:17 PM
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Men work that way as well lmao Or do you want to tell me that you’ve never fallen for a women, because you learned her character after spending time with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:58 PM
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Yes and they do it probably in the same rate as men! Shocking I tell you! Shocking!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:54 PM
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My thing with "barely legal" had nothing to do with 18 year olds, my point is that when someone goes to exactly the legal line, they would almost certainly go much lower if the legal line went lower. 50 year old guys who are specifically seeking out 18 year olds in porn would probably seek out 17, 16, 15 year olds in porn too, if it were legal. Maybe much lower. Who knows where it ends? That's what I meant above: You are assuming that someone who goes to the line would go lower and lower, if the…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 05:50 PM
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It’s not a technicality? Pedophilia is only given when prepubescent kids are involved. And to me it comes of like it’s only used by people in this situations, because it has more “punch” and people are more scared by it. Additionally your whole argument is built around: Men who are into „barley legal“ women and that is creepy, therefore it’s safe to assume that they are also into children, so they are basically into children. While you are already legally a adult when you are 18. Fair enough if …
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 04:57 PM
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Serious question: Are arguing so that you can argue? (Boxing might be interesting for you, if you need to get rid of your aggression 🙏) But seriously: From what I read I don’t see many things I see really differently... And you just wrote yourself, that it isn’t pedophilia which was my only and my main point.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/21 10:56 AM
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Bruh, even if you are 90 and find only 18 year olds sexually attractive, you are still not paedophilic. You might be a bit wrong in the head, it is questionable and so on, but pedophile has a definition and words have a meaning. Edit: Downvotes for “words have a meaning”? Seriously? Are we here on r/theredpill?
/r/ExRedPill13/03/21 06:19 AM
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I would use many words to describe the concept of the wall. Starting with “untrue” for example, but how in gods name can this be paedophilic?
/r/ExRedPill12/03/21 10:24 PM
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It should be enough to know what you are capable of. Your standard mode can be nice&friendly, but if someone tries to use you, you can still shoot him or her down.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/21 07:02 AM
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People grow apart 🤷‍♂️ As quick example: I broke up with my ex, because she did not want children ever. This doesn’t mean that the relationship was faulty, we just weren’t a good fit so we ended it, before we waste each others time.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 11:30 AM
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Well yes and I can totally understand why. Too much insecurity on your side and you won’t trust her, you won’t let her go out alone “because she could/will cheat on you”. You will probably need constant reinsurance that you love her, which gets old really fast. And I can go on... To me this isn’t even a gendered issue, because those would be big red flags in women as well.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/21 11:23 AM
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Oh boy.... You both can have problems and issues at the same time, that’s not mutually exclusive.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 06:50 AM
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For sure, but if this isn’t a fake story then there are easy tells. Like talking about sex and your views on it. General cues etc. Women and men who are like that are normally quite easy to stop without doing things like that. Plus: If she wouldn’t have failed and this story is ever discovered by her you would have some explaining to do. If some girl tried this on me and I notice I would dumb her on the spot. lmao This shows tremendous trust issues, which is a major red flag.
/r/MGTOW224/02/21 08:46 PM
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And that’s exactly why personal ones are so much better. ☝️ And my second question: Why would you ask on a alt account instead of talking directly to her about sexuality and your/her views of it? Doing this via an alt account is a weirdo move.
/r/MGTOW224/02/21 02:31 PM
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My first question: Why did take so long for yourself then? Lmao
/r/MGTOW224/02/21 01:36 PM
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You need to be realistic, though. How likely is it that a ambitious and business oriented 9/10 in looks will choose a ambitious and business oriented 5/10 or 6/10 , which by definition most men are? So yes, for the majority of men it’s in 9 of 10 cases a trade off. You have to decide which factors are more important for you and at least I know where my priorities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 10:00 PM
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Imagine wanting to date some dumb arm candy just for of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:41 AM
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Is it a problem if you lose a bit of respect for things like that? After all you decide with what you put up in any relationship (romantic and unromantic). And you can still keep your cool and respond with silence. Just go out, meet a friend or start to play some video game and after a day they’ll be back. Note: I can’t stand people who play games like that. So do that with me on purpose a few times and I will stop to care.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/21 07:27 PM
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Exactly lol Like what would you do with a Airhead 9/10 or the best looking women ever if she only talks about brands? Give me the 6/10 or even 5/10 with whom I can talk about business any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:28 AM
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I’m a man and I care about her career. I want a “equal relationship” and that means she pays the half of things and I pay the other half. (If someone doesn’t have the money at the moment you are still helping each other.) It’s not a hard dealbreaker if she earns significantly less, but it’s preferred if she earns around my earning range. Additionally it’s nice to know both of you can still live alone if the relationship ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 07:18 AM
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If the would really go their own way and join clubs or charities that probably would be true, but I doubt that is true for r/MGTOW or r/MGTOW2. Just check the new top posts and you’ll see what I mean...
/r/ExRedPill15/02/21 08:15 PM
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To make it “official”? If you ask me it’s just a nice tradition to show you mean it. It doesn’t really make a difference if you already live and plan a life together. But I also don’t believe in any god, so it might be just me being atheistic and unromantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 03:19 PM
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“Stages” of MGTOW? More like a whole different mindset. Virgin MGTOW (women bad, they are all cheating sluts :((((( ) vs. Chad going it’s own way (do what you want, without subscribing to a specific ideology) That’s completely different, you don’t have to know MGTOW to go your own way and in fact many single men do this, while (thankfully) only a small subset is MGTOW.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/21 01:28 PM
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Well, she is 100% correct. MGTOW is as community not about going your own way, it’s more a cope for bitter and angry men who pity themselves. Men who “go there own way” aren’t MGTOWs, they just do their thing anyways. For some it’s a hobby like going to the gym, for some it’s work, but they don’t victimise themselves like this fools on r/MGTOW
/r/ExRedPill15/02/21 12:32 PM
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So men should not get married, because “the mainstream” thinks that men are doing less in a relationship? What? Normally you are getting in a marriage, because you think you are a good fit. In most cases you have even lived together and it’s just a formality anyways so I think your whole premise is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 09:58 AM
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Unfortunately, in today’s society, too often children grow up in toxic families [...] While this is true, it wasn’t better 10 or 30 years ago. If you look at the cultural changes and the progress we made with mental health it was actually worse.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/21 06:13 AM
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You assume that a feminine brain means born that way. It doesn't. The article states that sexed brains dont exist, that gender is a construction of environment, not something that is in born. So what you think of feminine neurotype isn't biologically rooted, its culturally conditioned. Fantastic! Then by your logic sex doesn't matter at all and a man can be a women and vice versa, as long as they are conditioned to it. Note: As far as I have kept up with the research in this area it's still wild…
/r/ExRedPill23/01/21 10:46 PM
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a) You do realise that your own blog entry reinforces my point, right? The research team in your post identified parts and areas which where “more (fe)male”. Which is all I stated. But at this point I might as well add that even sex isn’t clear cut. You think you can use chromosomes? Welp, there are people with male genitalia and a XX chromosome or XXY a chromosome. Now we could go on with hormone receptors and production and so on. b) Let’s get to the core of this: The idea actually comes from …
/r/ExRedPill23/01/21 10:21 AM
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The thing about trans men/women is that nobody thinks that anybody can becomes physically obtain a female body (or male if it’s reversed) at least not with the current technology. It’s more a “don’t be a asshole thing”, because their brain tells them that they are women (whatever that means beyond genitalia) and that you don’t need to put someone else down, because they had bad luck in the gen lottery. I mean there brains are literally more like female brains than they are male if you look at th…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/21 10:44 PM
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Do you mind to link the particular studies?
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 12:04 PM
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Thanks for the link! I also added it to me original reply, it seems like fds members finally have found this thread otherwise I don’t understand the downvotes you’ve got.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 12:02 PM
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Since when does FDS care about the plight of LGBT people? FDS has a huge overlap with the pink pill and this is a known TERF sub, so you probably can remove the T entirely if you ask them.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 11:59 AM
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Don’t worry, I wouldn’t have a problem with you even if you were a frequent contributor. I just wanted to add context why I think that the sub is problematic, even though I would fall into their “HVM” category. (At least for the household chores and letting her go out things. They would probably hate that I want to share/pay everything 50/50 and that I like SM) About the handbook: I once checked the handbook and thought that most of this tipps are also good for men, so I don’t think that it is t…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 06:44 PM
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Oof. I’m absolutely not a fan of the word “pickmesha”, especially when it’s used to describe women who want to be stay at home moms. (I have definitely seen this on twitter, not sure about FDS though) The way you describe FDS... You probably could frame trp the same way, just with men instead of women... They even have similar revenge fantasies: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/kzc0n5/dear_male_lurkers_fds_is_coming_for_your I personally would be wary about a women who freq…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 06:12 PM
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I downvoted because: * of unnecessary generalisations * Many women don’t even want to live with traditional gender roles and they don’t expect that from you * Both throw “petty problems” at each other and not everything is a test or are you just eating all your problems? (Great recipe for a disaster later on)
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 05:54 PM
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This high value man/women or low value man/women thinking is strange to me. Let’s say I’m at a party and I meet Lisa and Lisa looks great and she is exactly my type. I leave her for a moment and meet Linda. Linda looks kinda average, she is not my type, but I somehow feel this spark for her and my heart starts racing when I talk to her. If you have the free choice: Who would you take home with you? Who is the “high value women” in this scenario? ... I personally would always go for Linda, even i…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 05:42 PM
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Is FDS not just the red pill, but for women? To me it always had the “How do I get the most out of my man, while I provide the bare minimum.” vibe. Edit: Added a CMV which describes why it’s bad more eloquently https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/fof2q9/cmv_rfemaledatingstrategy_is_a_toxic_hateful_sub
/r/ExRedPill18/01/21 05:31 PM
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The concept describes a power struggle and yes there are some women (and men) who do run “shit tests”. While this games can definitely be fun in the short term, they are absolutely toxic in the longterm. I personally would recommend to avoid women (and men) like that. Otherwise you’ll end up in a toxic relationship in which both of you are destroying each other. (Been there) The good thing is that the majority of women (and men) doesn’t play games like this. So just stay away from women (and men…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/21 09:58 PM
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I thought “chad” was only about looks and not about “profession”? 🤓 I also don’t share your analysis... Human are generally doing the thing with the highest return. So if enough “chad gangs” emerge you can rest assured that the government will either destroy or use them as asset in no time. Based on the value they have to those in charge. PS: What about becoming a policeman? If you can stand your ground against “chad” and his gang you have to be one as well, right? After all it somehow is not ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:19 PM
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Which morals? You obviously don’t have a problem with thinking that all or the vast majority of women are worthless sluts... Or ignoring that good men are also getting laid on the regular... So you might transform this deep resentment maybe in something useful for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:00 AM
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Why won’t you become a gang leader then? You want sex and as I heard it pays good money to be a gang leader. So what’s stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:01 AM
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How is this “They screwed themselves” lmao Who wants to be with someone who plays stupid games anyways? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:39 PM
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It can be detrimental or can be a booster, especially if can make yourself familiar with your boss or your bosses boss. (Only if they get drunk too) And nobody cares about a few stolen cigarettes where I work lmao But let’s say they do: If you are caught you say something like: “Sorry I thought they were mine. I’ll buy you a pack to make up for that.” And if you are not caught you make the others complicit in offering them cigarettes from this pack. It’s not that bad, you just need to know how y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:41 PM
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Yes, but I got drunk with some colleagues and my boss lmao You get plus points for that and it’s easier to talk to him later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:11 AM
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🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:00 AM
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I think you misunderstand. The problem are not allegations or stuff like that, the problem are messed up relationships. A great part of success in a company depends on who you know or who knows you. If you make yourself “foes” there, then you’ll still suffer consequences and you won’t be able to climb ranks as fast. Obviously also the opposite could have happened here if everything ends up fine, but why should I risk it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:50 AM
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A conservative take lmao Phrases like “Never fuck the company” or “Don’t put your pen in company ink.” are quite common. And they are right... Having something with someone, who you have to work close with can lead to all kind of problems. Especially if she has more power and influence than you and especially if she was/is basically mentoring you. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:28 AM
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More like: I like my job and I don’t need to have a drunken story like this destroy my reputation at my project 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:57 AM
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Has she though? In the end I did not want more and it was still a fun evening. Doesn’t look like a L in my books, but you do you obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:40 AM
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And I’m also in comment thread where it’s about altering the number a bit. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:36 AM
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In short: It was a company party and we both got drunk as fuck , we stole cigarettes together and meanwhile we were getting closer and closer and then I left, before something happened. I decided that I was too drunk and I did not want to fuck up, just because I was horny at a office party.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:51 AM
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Simps? These are idiots without self respect as well lmao If you let someone walk over you, you normally deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:45 AM
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That might be just me, but I almost ended in bed with one of those women over 35 and I’m about ten years younger lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:45 AM
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So the truth is that women should always be subservient to men and if the had sex with more than two guys they are worthless sluts? Because that’s the vibe I get from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:26 AM
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Everybody with a brain hates the generic online incel. lol Most of them are insufferable cunts without social skills. Even if they wouldn’t look like “Chad” they would have massive problems with stable relationships. To the rest: Average and below average men still do fine even regarding casual sex, if they are willing to go out and if they are fun to be around. But most of them aren’t so they are fucked. Slightly below average looks and no exciting and engaging personality to make up for it... …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:19 AM
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Hahaha, if you go into a relationship with thoughts like that you can as well end it at the spot if you ask me. How does one even do this? Do you have a checklist and ask her all the questions and decide then if it’s a good decision to have a relationship with her? I mean you aren’t buying a car, you want to build a relationship with a real person. This is only possible with trust and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:47 PM
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It tells you if there is a higher chance and not that she will. Even then she might be the one who isn’t cheating lol For god’s sake you might be the one who will cheat on her. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:24 PM
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Do you really struggle with the concept of white lies? If my mom shows me dumb boomer meme I act as if I it’s mildly amusing just because it makes her happy. I don’t gain anything from that. If a fat friend asks if she looks good I’ll tell her or him “yes sure, but you would look even better if you lost some weight.” If you are worried about something you will also sometimes say that everything is okay, because not everyone needs to feel down if it’s not necessary. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:21 PM
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But honestly: A even better tip is to go to a good bar and to just ask the bar keeper. “Hey Mister Barkeeper I want to try a new cocktail - something sweet. What can you recommend?” “A Pina Colada is sweet and tastes like coconut.” “I haven’t had that one before, I’ll take it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:22 PM
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(Pure) Alcohol doesn’t really have a taste, though. And if you don’t like bitter then Aperol Spritz won’t be your drink. If you like something which is not bitter then there are good sweet wines, spirits or Cocktails like a Mojito
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:40 PM
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And every terrorist ate bread so what’s your point? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:06 PM
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Oh god no, just no.. And I say that as hetero guy... That guy probably dies of a heart attack if he has to run 2 miles... That’s not a good catch....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 02:01 PM
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I certainly feel like that is what OP was referring to, especially after reading about the blacks who want reparations from whites, because of the slavery of their ancestors. lol But even if you put that aside: “How is muh whites are the problem!” helping anyone? There is no nuance in that, there is no difference between the Ku Klux Clan man and the women who looks funny at black people. There is no difference made between US whites and European whites etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:57 PM
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What do you expect? lol In real world scenario we would meet in bar, at a concert or anywhere else. There I can ask to join you, to buy you a drink, etc. while I can compliment you to get a conversation going. After two minutes I know if I’m really interested or if you are just good looking. On Tinder you are just one of many to me and because I haven’t seen you yet I don’t know if I feel chemistry with you. Additionally I’ll need to get a conversation going based on a (in most cases) stereotypi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:49 PM
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“Y’all”. Nah, those who did it are long dead and the sins of the father are not the sins of the son.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:06 PM
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This depends so much on who you know. If you are related to the one of the guards or the headmaster I’ll guarantee you that nothing would happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:05 PM
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Same but with women lol This inescapable attraction which builds up by the smell(?) of some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:52 AM
1

You should try Port and Aperol Spritz with prosecco instead of wine is also superb... Or maybe it’s just me and my country... I think most of the adults here would be considered alcoholics by US standards...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:43 AM
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I don’t know about you, but I absolutely “judge” women based on education... She has a STEM or business degree? She has just become 10 times more interesting. She studied psychology? She has just become 5 times more interesting. She studied something with art and isn’t from a rich family? Forget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:37 AM
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It was a honor. Hopefully 2021 will be as good as you 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:16 AM
2

She is right though....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:56 AM
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If you are in a relationship you actually discuss sex and both are responsible. You even do that with FWBs and ONs if you are smart
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:57 PM
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I just found another interesting mindset difference of Central Europe vs. the US.... Here you can go to university for “free” and you normally have “free” insurance (ofc you pay with your taxes). So it’s better for the state and society to provide “free” abortions and birth control to young students, because it’s better for everyone if they finish school and start to earn money. In the long run nobody profits from this “me, myself and I” culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 10:18 PM
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So no source Edit: Oh, you don’t need to downvote me. Providing a source would suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:36 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:52 PM
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I think I have brought up a few points, but let’s make them more explicit: Bad sex life: A bad sex life is still better than no sex life and it doesn’t have to be that a „beta“ has a bad sex life. In your example a marriage is automatically and always connected to a bad sex life, but that’s not the case for all marriages. So the „beta“ might have a better and a more regular sex life, than many „alphas“. “She will cheat on the beta!!!”: There is always the risk that somebody is cheating and betra…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:40 AM
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Let’s say I buy in the alpha-beta dichotomy... The things you are describing: Marriage, Kids, provide for your family, etc. doesn’t even sound half bad to me. Give me 10 million or a happy family and I’ll take the happy family. Now of course you put in bad things which could happen in a marriage as they will happen, but this is not necessarily true. Sure she can cheat on you or your sex life can become shit, but that’s not a given and that can also happen to the “alpha”. It’s not something you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:26 AM
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That’s nowhere near the truth, those who had capabilities to work together were selected for. People with ASPD or psychopathic tendencies are looked down upon and this kind of behaviour is not the norm. Funnily enough those conditions can be also caused by enough trauma. Not everything has to be nature, many things can also be nurture. And we don’t have peace since “a few centuries”. In fact the US has been always in wars since it has been founded. The second world war ended only ~75 years ago. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 09:04 AM
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The title is wrong. It’s not a general thing, because you don’t see that happen in Japan or Singapore. My personal view on this: It’s mostly cultural and that’s why you have a difference in Singapore/Japan vs. the rest. It has nothing to do with “evolutionary psychology”, but everything with upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:16 AM
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Arranged marriages were still common in Europe ~100 years ago too, so not really islamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 09:31 AM
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I might get hated for it, but I won’t care about her further goals at all as long as she looks okay and is down to fuck. I might even see this FDS attitude as thrilling... From queen to sucking my cock. While I certainly wouldn’t travel for a women like that I might plan a trip around that. You know going to a different place, having fun at a bar with a women who I will fuck with guarantee and exploring where ever she lives. At worst I still had a trip for myself... There just isn’t a downside a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:13 PM
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A few women are like that, but that’s not the majority or those who you want to typical be with. That’s like saying “This guy let’s him treat like shit from his girlfriend, this proves that men will stay with women if there is real attraction and he gets sex.” So that’s true for some, but not for many men and women and this are typically people who already have psychological problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 01:56 PM
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More block happy than a Twitter feminist, huh? 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:09 AM
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The whole point of flirting is that you both don’t state openly that you are interested, telling them that you are not interested destroys the whole point. It’s like a dance or a negotiation, in which everything can happen, but nothing has to happen. Therefore: It can be revealed from the other person that there is no interest, but not openly stated. So it’s not possible to mutually agree on this if this should be fun for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:07 AM
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Flirting is fun especially over Snapchat, when you are not able to meet any ways. And at least one of the two is aware that I’m not being serious, because normally she is the one “who is playing games”. And which problem? I mean they can already move on! We are not dating and I’m not telling them that I love them, I’m just a bit flirty with them. And as we all know: Being flirty <> being interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:59 AM
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A piece of shit for flirting? Hardly. At least not in my books. But as OP said: Women(1) don’t tend to play games if they are really attracted. (1) People
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:41 AM
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I’m with her on this. It’s not your responsibility to refuse xzy, because person x might or might not hope for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 10:37 PM
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To be fair: Thats not only women who play this games... Especially since Covid I’ve been play flirting with 2 women, while I’m actually interested in the third one. So that’s definitely not a women thing, but a human thing,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 10:32 PM
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If it is a research team of 5 people? Sure! Stuff like this is teamwork anyways, nobody is discovering a cure for cancer his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:56 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:44 PM
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Is it the norm tough? I mean there are thousand “there is no sex after marriage” jokes. And to me it seems more like a “high libido vs low libido” thing. As you said: You can compromise. You just want to fuck him once a month? That’s your good right and you shouldn’t do anything you don’t want. Still, then it shouldn’t be a problem if he wanks it in bed, whenever he is horny. A high libido isn’t a choice and you will risk a very grumpy boyfriend if he isn’t even „allowed“ to release himself. Fur…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:35 PM
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Given that he is famous for it is a easier, but someone who really develops the cure for cancer is most likely some lab rat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:18 PM
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So? You meant something you did not write? Interesting, but words have a meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:03 PM
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Again: Why would a man do that and why would a women stay in relationship, if you she is not happy in it? As I said before both are suffering in this situation and it isn’t necessary that one of them takes pills, just end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:00 PM
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The actual question is: Why would any of you stay in relationship with each other, if you are not sexually compatible? In the end nobody wins if one part feels always pressured and the other party is always unsatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:57 PM
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Actually yes. It is enough to be the weird work obsessed guy who doesn’t look good. He might be brilliant in science, but he might also really suck at socialising and getting people interested. And this kind of guy can easily cure cancer (if he is that intelligent), but lack sex or any intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:48 PM
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I don’t OP seems to want, to point into that direction. 💁‍♂️ I was making fun of that already the last week and he was doubling down.
/r/ExRedPill24/12/20 02:25 PM
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I was just asking OP, because he seems to suggest something like that.
/r/ExRedPill24/12/20 02:04 PM
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No one who abuses you emotionally deserves your loyalty, so in this case the guys are just weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:43 AM
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Well I can and I’m a man with a very high sex drive. So why can’t you? Biology or is it because sex is more important to you? No shame in that, but it would be better if you were honest to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:40 AM
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About your first part: Prostitution is 100% legal in the Netherlands, in Germany, in Poland, in Czech,in Austria and a few other countries I can’t remember. Why don’t we see the dramatic shift you are talking about there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 09:31 AM
1

Who does truly run the world? Is it the jews or the aliens?
/r/ExRedPill24/12/20 08:52 AM
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Oh god, who is really lusting for Kim Kardashian... Give me Taylor Swift, Emma Watson or someone else with a normal body...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:54 AM
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Well if the part about the being the town bicycle is true and not sarcasm then she probably knows first hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 08:55 PM
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See... It’s only a red flag if she was the town bicycle or if she had literally tons of casual sex... If this are just things like „I had sex with a guy, while I was staying in this hostel.“ I won’t care. You know why? I know myself and I know that things like that happen as I’ve experienced it firsthand. So I won’t leave her for just having sex while she was single. So whatever goes for her and that she might cheat on me is also true for me. Aside from that I’m also a risk taker and I won’t shu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:46 PM
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Well I was asking about sex and not rape, that are two different things. And yes cheating is a red flag, but it’s more the cheating and not the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:55 PM
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Well that’s the goal anyways in bed right? To rock her world or to rock his world. A testament of lust and pleasure to put it poetically. hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:53 PM
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If you prefer a virgin then I guess you are somehow religious and you are a virgin yourself? Or at very least low n?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:49 PM
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Yeah, who doesn’t want to hear how good you are in bed. haha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:30 PM
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Well low-n and high sexual energy can exists together. For example if he was in two or three longer LTRs and had no casual sex. Would you personally lose attraction if you find out that he has only been with three women later on? Even though the sexual energy you got from him was good at the beginning? Or is this more a general thing like „I have to live with the fact that he has a higher n count, because most of the guys I’m attracted to have one anyways.“?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:16 PM
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Well, I’m not a native speaker :) And I don’t bash anyone. I asked a question and I stated my opinion so that I don’t have to answer in the comments. But hey, if you feel attacked, because some guy on the internet dares to ask a question it’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:52 PM
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Really guys? Downvotes for a question? This sub is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:48 PM
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That’s not a gendered thing. We all know men who cant shut up and we all know women who can keep secrets like a tomb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:24 PM
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Honestly: You have to be insecure as fuck to leave her, just because she already has fucked with 10 men. If she treats you like a king now and doesn’t show any red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:11 PM
2

Indeed. It seems like many „red pilled“ men are Incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:05 PM
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I’m a man and I don’t care enough to ask honestly and if she asked my I would thank that she is weird. We all have some kind of sexual past and they are the past for a good reason. All I care is that she is with me now and that I’m with her now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:37 AM
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Not really... While I’m not „men“ I’m a man and as long as I have a good time with her and she shows that I can trust her I won’t care and why should I? We all have some sort of sexual past, but that’s the past. What counts is the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:32 AM
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It’s not only a bonus 🤷‍♂️ Trust me I’m not even that good looking and women are already impressed, because I’ve been in so many places and saw so many things. Some of them hang on your lips for stuff like that. Additionally speaking four languages automatically gives you status in many circles. It shows that you are educated, it shows that you have some kind of drive and passion. Now you just need to sell it to the right audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:19 PM
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Yep, reminds of my ex who was initially attracted to me, because and I quote ”Men need to have big noses!“
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:49 PM
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If you won’t stick around the (1)women you love if she gets sick I don’t consider you loyal. Sorry not sorry. (1) Or family for that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:57 PM
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So you are saying that women are less capable of loyalty while the are more likely to stay with a sick spouse? Bold statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:29 PM
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See: A body or status represents a certain lifestyle or a mindset and if she leaves me because this has changed I’m fine. BUT If she doesn’t stay for me if I get broke or if I get sick I’m not interested. Now wouldn’t leave her if she gets sick or broke and I expect the same. You know why? Because loyalty isn’t a one way road and you have to give in order to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:13 PM
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As I said: You make the claim means that you bring the evidence. It’s not my job to disprove wacko shit. Lmao
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 01:01 PM
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You are stating that the conspiracy is there means that you bring the evidence. If I state that I have seen god or a pink unicorn it’s also on me to prove that and not on you and everyone who calls me a wacko for it has every right to do so.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 12:52 PM
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Without hard evidence they are just people doing business to me. 🤷‍♂️
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 12:46 PM
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Nothing secret about them... And you should stop to think in terms of good or bad and start to think in terms of interests. They are people just like you and me. That’s why I don’t see anything particularly bad about. I would most likely act the same if I were in this position. Also you don’t seem to understand what „connected“ means... It’s for sure not a „we want to rule the world!!!“, it’s more like a „we might work together if we have aligned interests“. The thing which is impossible in my e…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 12:13 PM
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So people with power and money connect in closed clubs? Color me surprised! You already see this in every village, everywhere you have some sort of club for those who have more power. The thing is: This doesn’t mean that they have aligned interests or that they are able to start concerted efforts to influence people in a certain way.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 10:57 AM
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I have seen that argument quite often, but rest assured that men under 30 are normally capable of 2-3 rounds with only small breaks in between. So you will get your sex life even, if he jerks off once a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:28 AM
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Give me (almost) any hobby and I find some women who prizes it. Especially with your language example. If I speak four languages and I’m travelling I’m 100% sure that I can pick some women up with that alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:15 AM
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Is it „the jews“ or is it the 👽?
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 09:11 AM
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No you got it the wrong way: In good relationships the thoughts of „he/she might leave me“ won’t even come up. After all you love, respect and trust each other. So why should one of you leave? And if you don’t trust each other enough to be assured that the other party won’t leave you it’s a shitty deal. Honestly; If I thought that she only stays for „my value“ then I would end the relationship myself, as I want her to stay for me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:09 AM
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Given that you are actually open with each other there will be a solution or a common ground. You have to be compatible for a relationship anyways and it’s not like you can enforce a „no porn“ rule, even if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:06 AM
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Sounds reasonable and after a while you know each other anyways enough so you don’t even need to ask. Oh he is not in the mood for sex, I’ll use the vibrator. Oh she is not in the mood for sex, so it’s the hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:03 AM
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On one hand this seems a bit extreme to me, but on the other hand it’s just a preference like people who are refusing to date „thicc“ people or smokers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 12:59 AM
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Maintaining your status and appearance is kinda basic self respect to me. I wouldn’t classify this as „dread game“. I would even call a casual flirt with someone else call dread game as long as both are on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 11:58 PM
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So basic self help? Improve yourself, get fit and working on your career is what every „life coach“ or self help book tells you. Boundary setting and not putting others on a pedestal also isn’t particularly new.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 11:16 PM
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What do you think of „dread game“. I’ve seen it suggested on RP quite often and even though I don’t have much empathy I couldn’t do it to someone I respect and love. Edit: Really guys? Downvotes for a serious question?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:14 PM
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I repeat myself here: She is my ex, I don’t have romantic or sexual feelings for her anymore and I still hug her. That’s just a whole different thing for me. If it is different for you I believe you that. People normally judge based on perceived value and not on effort. And you yourself stated liability = cost > benefit. (No benefit does not equal effort) The thing about valueing yourself is: If you value yourself you will either fix the relationship or leave her/him if you are not satisfied wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:35 PM
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That's probably because you're conflating things that you do out of attraction and sexual intimacy with things that you'd do out of intimacy. I hug my close friends and tell them that I love them and there's no weirdness about it. You do the things with your gf because you're sexually attracted to her among other things. If you broke up with her and didn't do those things anymore, that would be the reason. Well, I'm still hugging my ex without sexual thoughts so... For me it's still a different …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:48 PM
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That's for nearly every woman in every relationship. Men almost always spend more than they get back, which is offset by sexual benefits. This is mostly how nature functions, but males end up expending more effort on the females while the females displace that time and energy onto the offspring. I don't see this happen and I also would stop to call women females if I were you or do you want to be refered as "male"? That would depend on how close your friendships are. In a close friendship, the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 03:12 PM
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If you spend a lot of money and physical effort, while she doesn’t do that for you then this is on you. Try to date women who have their shit together the next time. A few personal anecdotes: Some of the women I dated even insisted that they pay the next date. We almost had a fight about who is paying. lol Additionally relationships provide you with camaraderie and mutual support, which is also super nice and a different thing compared to a friendship. Also I wouldn’t want a relationship based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 01:03 PM
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What do you mean with „liability“? If there is a child women still take care of them and women still do the majority of household chores? What should women do additionally or what did you lack in your relationships and why is this „all women“ and not „my ex“?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:14 PM
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Women want a replacement [...] I tend to repeat myself but with which women do you have contact? Like there are many women who want to pay for themselves and who want to split the bill out there? Women do not want to be replacement mommies [...] Obviously. I as guy avoid guys who seem to need a replacement mommy, because how should I take you seriously if you are unable to do the dishes or your laundry. (Same with women) That are absolute basic life skills. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:58 AM
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Okay, well then sorry. I guess it was the ANR Throwaway whatever user then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:08 AM
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And you say that women don’t do that? Edit: I’ll take your downvote as „Yes“. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:04 AM
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He literally asks that women change their looks and their personality for him and you don’t have a disagreement with that? Really? That sounds like A grade shitty behaviour. (The same is also true in reversal)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:52 AM
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Really? Governments can’t even decide on how to act on COVID-19 nationally (not even mentioning Internationally) and I should believe that some groups control us from the shadows?
/r/ExRedPill20/12/20 12:41 AM
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I think TERFS and r/fds might cover that field pretty good
/r/ExRedPill20/12/20 12:36 AM
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And the next picture of a Incel who doesn’t have a look problem, but psychological problems. Color me surprised! (Okay, the hair is debatable)
/r/ExRedPill20/12/20 12:07 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story!
/r/ExRedPill20/12/20 12:03 AM
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Be specific: Where are impolite or „indecent“ behaviour reward? Because I don’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 11:45 PM
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Women always scream at men „BE RESPONSIBLE [...] This is a obvious strawmen or maybe you just don’t have experience in dating or you have been seriously hurt. Either way: Even those who have this lists in their bio on tinder won’t care once they feel in love. And once you are in a relationship you both have to invest anyways if this should work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 11:38 PM
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LMAO, I guess you score very high on sensation seeking scale from Zuckermann and would wager that most guys here who complain that they have problems with women score very low on this scale. Sensation Seeking Scale - Wikipedia
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:25 PM
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To be fair: Behaving in a dark triad way gives you access to all the girls with mental health problems. Those who have a desire to treated badly and those who seem to hate them self on a sub concious level. The problem is that you don't want to deal with them for a long time or at least I don't want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:11 PM
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I have my own happiness and excitement, what I truly need is someone to be a partner, not an exciting friend.... I wasn't even speaking about "super exciting", but if I can't do a roadtrip without a clear destination with her then she is most likely not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:29 PM
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It absolutely means that you are capable of showing aggression. Of course not in a "I will beat you up!" way, but in a "If you overdo that I won't support you again and now get the fuck out of my sight" way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:23 PM
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That’s the type of guy I think about if someone says „a decently nice guy, without the neckbeard types.“ But let’s add the things you are describing here: Max has a amazing personality (whatever that means in detail) and he is super fun to be around, but he is somehow not able to show aggression. Well of course he sucks at dating. Nobody wants a yes-man, who is not able to stand his ground. I personally don’t even like women who don’t seem to have a own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:15 PM
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Look at it from the other side: If a women is decently looking and just nice (loyal, empathetic, etc.) without anything else going on in her life would she be your first pick? Now you can claim that I have some problems, but she would sadly not be the first pick for me. I would rather be with the someone who brings at least some excitement into my life, even if that means that I have to sacrifice looks. The thing u/begonescrote just wrote works in both directions, at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:07 PM
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It’s still a interesting question: I for example „look“ always and never. If I see a cute women I speak to her or ask for a date, but this happens random. I don’t really try to get a relationship. So „open for a relationship and dating, but not actively looking“ would be my box. Even though I use tinder for time to time. The thing is: Without a clearer definition this question is kinda pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 09:41 PM
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But what did I expect, after all MGTOW are just Incels in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:29 PM
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I was thinking to type a genuine respones, but no... Go troll somewhere else. But what did I expect, after all MGTOW are just Incels in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:26 PM
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Why?! Shall we inform them on the dangers of dancing on the roof? Tell them : "this this and this are dumb things. Don't do them or you're gonna regret it for the rest of your life. Wanna know more, research it. I told you. ". It's effective as it can be. Fucking no. If you don't explain people WHY xyz is a bad idea they won't listen to you. At least my teenager you would not have listend to you. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:02 PM
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no. source. Don't waste your time finding a source which tells the biological differences between young and old brains. Kids can play video games as complex as a 1960s life. Maturation of the adolescent brain (nih.gov) :^) Because I want her to have a low body count. That's how she knows, that she can't trust you and that she can't talk to you about sex. She can buy whatever she wants on Amazon and she can do all the research she wishes and she can ask me. Sex is not a need, what's all the fuss …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:00 PM
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Would you be open to talking to your daughters about sex? Would you be willing to allow her to go on birth control in her teens? As I'm a European and not some backwards bible belt american. Yes. Proper education is always better than making something a taboo, especially if it's about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 05:49 PM
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So what Does awalt really mean? It means all women have the same evolved female instincts to an extent. This are? "Monkey branch" aka "I'm not satisfied with my current relationship"? You see this in men as well, especially in those who want a younger women. "Alpha Fucks" aka "I want to have the man I'm physically most attracted to, even though it's a bad idea" You see this in many men, especially if hot, but unstable women are involved. "Hypergamous" aka "If I can get together with someone of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:41 PM
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I don’t see this mystical feminisation and the loss of secondary sexual characteristics. Men still can wear beard and still have hair on their chest. If anything this characteristics are coming back, because clean shaven isn’t en vouge anymore. The thing I see is that more and more people become fat though and through this you lose a lot of testosterone. I also don’t know anyone outside the internet who says that women look like men without make up. But even there is way more likely explanation:…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:40 PM
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Most of them yes, some of them not. The ones which aren’t so „typical“: „AWALT“: I think it’s true that every women, even the most committed, might cheat under the wrong circumstances, but the same is true for me. But contrary to RP I don’t think that this is as bad as they make it out to be. „She is not yours, it’s just your turn“: Many „typical“ people will disagree. But in the end you own no one, which also means that she doesn’t own me. The beauty in that is that we both can agree that we ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 08:54 PM
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Leaving aside the fact that you can’t predict the future: There are plenty of opportunities to get laid. Parties, Bars, Social Circle dating, Hostels, Clubs, every form of club activity, ... It’s your own fault if you only bitch instead of capitalising on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:45 PM
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ESTJ or ENTJ (nothing fits 100%) - have I won? 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:19 PM
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It can be the most intimate thing ever or just better masturbation. Depending on why, when and with whom. Even while I was in relationship sex was sometimes just to „get steam out of the System“, while it was on other times the most sensual thing ever. And another time it was just to pleasure her and and and So it can be everything or nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:18 PM
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It seemed like you wanted to say that it is the women and it is the women who are children for flirting, being subtil and using body language. Especially as you put out that only thirsty or desperate men want such „low value women“. Anyways we might just end the conversation here as you won’t change my mind that this is way more fun and on turning than being direct and I won’t change your mind that this is just a childish. So have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:06 PM
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You realize that some men (me for example) enjoy to play the same game as well? That it can be genuinely enjoyable to build up a unbearable tension that one of you two has to say the magical three words? (For me) It is even fun if it doesn't come to that, because then you just had some funny conversations. And this for sure isn't as one sided as you make it out to be. Everyone with some expierence in this can play this game as well. You as man can also always end it and you as man can also start…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 05:23 PM
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In this case you wouldn’t be doing it for others, you would be doing it for a women you made up in your mind. Someone who doesn’t exist yet. At this moment „she“ doesn’t even benefit if you „abstain“ from having a relationship or from sex. I get if someone does this for their believes, but not for some glorified thought of a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:12 PM
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Imagine sacrificing quality of life for a women who you haven’t even met yet. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:43 PM
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It also makes the thing less secure for both, hence the opposite of cowardice ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:42 PM
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What? Why should you care about a eventual spouse you don’t even know yet? Like come on... By this logic every person who had a relationship is already spoiled, because they had their fun with someone else....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:14 PM
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Hard disagree from me here. Showing affection and sexual interest is way hotter than talking about it. Ultimately you should speak about it, but especially the first ambiguous phase is fun. At least for me, if you see this differently it’s your thing, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 11:14 AM
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I don't think that I get what you want to say... But mature people know both and use both, so even the most mature women or man uses body language. Even you are using body language on subconscious level, because you literally have no other choice. It's a built in feature without a stop. You hurt yourself? Your face will reveal it. You are excited? Your body will reveal it. Your desinteressted? Your body will reveal it? Granted there are some people who can dial down their response, but you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:16 PM
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Is his career over, though? It certainly doesn’t seem like that. More often than not body language is way more honest than the spoken word. You normally see immediately if someone is happy,stressed, unmotivated, angered, etc. even before they have spoken a single word. Ignore it if you wish, but you will miss out heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:17 PM
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Ansi Akari... I just googled him, but ultimately nothing happend to him and nothing will happen to him. This isn’t even near rape in a jurisdictional sense. We are talking about asking for date, a situation in which you have to read the body language and situation before. And there you need to read looks and body language, to gauge if she is interested, if that’s confirmed you can drop by to ask her our.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 08:05 AM
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Honestly? I pity you if you really think that. As long as you respect boundaries and don’t press after you are rejected you are fine. Generally you see if a women is interested. RP calls those things IOs and they are real. Edit: In my friends group one guy filled a girl who did not want anything from him up to the brim. And as she had to sleep in his house, because she had now way to get home he brought her to his bed and fucked (raped) her. The next the she could not remember anything, she crie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:31 PM
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A little cheeky jealousy can be hot, though. If you one of you is a bit flirty with someone else and the other one comes and kisses the flirty person in front of the guy/women. You just need to be on the same page about it, both need to be sure that you are only going home with SO. But everything bigger than that is no no for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:36 PM
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Well it’s the dictionary definition vs the philosophy. I already had this misunderstanding once. So I guess we are both correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:29 PM
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As I said it’s a you problem. I neither know where you live, nor is it my responsibility to find something for you. And btw. young adults around here definitely socialise like this. There is a club for everything and after the club activities end it’s almost mandatory to join the drinking. Hell, where I am there are even hobby groups of young climbers, who meet afterwards to drink. 🤷‍♂️ Or clubs who are basically only there to organize some charity events and after that (you guessed it) drinking…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:11 PM
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Sounds like a „You“-problem, but I’m sure you’ll find something. Dancing, Bowling, Shooting, Darts, Pool, etc. are just examples which exist almost everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:14 PM
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So much this! I almost ended a relationship, because a women was always jealous when I was meeting with other women. She also feared that I replace her or cheat on her. Therefore I understand every women who dumps guys because of insecurities like this. Because who wants to stay with someone who questions you, if you are just meeting some friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:36 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 10:20 AM
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Get a hobby in which you have to meet in person and in which you are forced to socialise like dancing. With this it’s way more likely that you meet new women and you also have to learn to socialise in group settings. On top of that such groups frequently go drinking afterwards and if you join them a few times you can make some new friends. Bonuspoints if you go running, because this also changes your mindest to be more goal oriented. Specific enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:33 AM
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Well that’s your choice after all and I agree that being with someone just so you aren’t alone is a bad idea. I just think fearing that she will leave you anyways and that she will always compare you to „Chad“ is a even worse idea. Example:My ex gf also feared that I might cheat on her with some of my female friends, then she tried to forbid that I meet with them. No matter what I said, she did not want that I meet with them. After a while this distrust and insecurity was such a big turn off, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:26 AM
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If I want to do a study about only dating usage and I start to include every possible platform then I will always have 100%. I bet my ass off that even Cisco WebEx at work and Microsoft Teams is used for flirting. Additionally nobody means Instagram if they say „I’m now into online dating“. So it’s of course not in a study about online dating. If you include this then the lines get so blurry that you might not do a study about it at all. Me meeting my ex gf after we wrote on Twitter is completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:16 AM
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Well, yes both are valid for being stoic, but only one is true for stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:50 AM
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LMAO, I never said that women don’t anything wrong. If you are seriously fearing that she will leave you or that you are just the „I don’t want to be alone“ guy for her, then leave her. The fear and the insecurities just make it worse and you unattractive as fuck. Source: I was once with a girl who had insecurities like this and even there it almost killed all my attraction. This got so far, that I even asked her to end the relationship if she doesn’t trust me. So I guess it’s similar to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:48 AM
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If she is cold and distant towards you, then you shouldn’t be with her in the first place, though. Already being insecure about it, before the whole thing has started won’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:44 AM
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If you aren’t social awkward you will find possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:40 AM
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LMAO, because they literally have completely different usages? But hey, go and troll somewhere else...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:23 AM
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Mixing Tinder with Facebook and calling it a dating account... Are you serious? And this wasn’t even the point in my original comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:17 AM
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Stoicism isn’t about botteling up your emotions or not showing them... It’s more about appreciating the things you can’t change, focusing on the things you can change and steeping back to view your emotions from the outside. May I recommend mediations from Marc Aurel?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:16 AM
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It’s only misleading if you are not able to differentiate between a dedicated dating site/app and a site/app for socialising/communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:06 AM
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Tinder, Bumble, OKCupid etc. are designed and marketed for dating. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Discord, etc are designed for different usages. Mind = blown?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:59 PM
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Don’t worry! I usually go the just meet or the „let’s reply to a Insta story“ route
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:57 PM
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You are mixing things up. In the comments I see the fear that she might think about „Chad“ and the believe that she will always compare him to others. If she really does that you should obviously leave her. Still: Thinking that every women who is interested in you just settles for you is one hundred percent toxic and it shows your massive insecurities and trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:55 PM
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The main point was that it shows massive insecurities if people worry that their girlfriend who is with them right now will always compare them to the Chads „she could get“ via OLD. Insecurities I simply don’t get, because if she was more interested in them, then she would be with them now. The PS was just about OLD platforms. If I strike up a conversation on Instagram/Twitter/etc. then it obviously isn’t online dating, even though we „met“ online. And even on Instagram, Twitter or Snapchat you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:47 PM
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It’s a Western European country. One in which you are already the „Instagram addict“ if you post a story 3 times a week or something. Also Influencers aren’t valued here, I would say the vast majority looks down on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:40 PM
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Well, you can always state that you think someone is so interesting that you want to meet. In the worst case it will be seen as clumsy flirting*, that’s why I don’t see a problem in being „the creep“ if I’m really interested. And that’s especially true if you already have some history with the person. given that you stop if the other person is not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:35 PM
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Never used it in that way and in my country this would be considered creepy as fuck. Still if it works for you, you should go for it. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:27 PM
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Lmao, that’s the vast majority. If you meet 10 women, then you have most likely met 7 women who don’t use online dating. So: Work, social circles, bars, hobby groups, in dancing classes, at a group crossfit training, in Hostels, etc. Just go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:25 PM
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That’s certainly true, but in my experience this is just: Person A has a Insta story Person B answers Conversation developes And more often than not this people have already seen each other before. It’s more like a bar setting in which you try to strike up a conversation and not about checking who the hottest guy/women is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:18 PM
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You absolutely have control about your thought processes.(At least to a degree) Try meditation, auto suggestions or try to practice stoicism for a month if you don’t believe me. Also the statistic isn’t about life time use, it’s about current use.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:12 PM
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You can also use discord to strike up conversations, but this doesn’t make it to a online dating platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:06 PM
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Instagram isn’t online dating lmao That is like saying Twitter is dating platform, because people strike up conversations there and meet later.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:00 PM
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How is social circle dating risky and how does feminism factor into that? Just act like a grown adult and respect borders. I’ve honestly never seen that someone gets excluded from their own circles if a pair has broken up. Wait I have seen it once... But she was only excluded because she cheated on him and that happened to her and not to him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:51 PM
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As a wise men once said: „Every platform is a dating platform if you are creepy enough.“ Seriously: If you already have some kind of connection you can always ask to meet in a private discord, exchange numbers, slip in the dms etc. Making the suggestion alone should reveal enough intent to gauge if she is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:46 PM
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Only 27% of the young adults uses OLD, though. So the vast majority doesn’t, this means you can still meet with the other 73% percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:38 PM
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Your last paragraph... I read something along this lines pretty often and I always ask myself: Who cares? She obviously doesn’t if she is with you right now. So she sees in you something and if you are not a model, then it’s probably not looks. Aaaaand if she doesn’t care about other men, why do you care about other men? That’s like fearing that her ex will come back and that she will leave you for him blablabla PS: Only 27% of the younger US population uses online dating, so you can still meet …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:35 PM
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If you did not get the job [...] Obviously, but as I said it’s almost impossible to prove and men still get good jobs and generally jobs all the time. I have been a lawyer [...] First I don’t believe you that you are a lawyer, because it doesn’t look like that. But you say it yourself you need media pressure etc. That’s not viable for the average jane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:56 AM
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Affirmative Action Being accepted as leader in a group is not about getting the job. The company can give you every title they want, but you want stand a chance if your workers won’t accept you. As I said your affirmative action example is almost impossible to prove in the real world. No company will admit that if they want to do that, they will just come up with: „The guy showed better soft skills“ and they are done. And in 99% of all cases you won’t get any feedback at all, so you don’t have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 11:27 PM
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Well, let’s do concrete comparisons! The ugly man vs. the ugly women Both will struggle heavily in dating, but one of them has more chance to be accepted as leader just because of the right reproduction organ. The other one is more likely to be labelled as bossy or bitchy. If both of them study the same MINT subject and have the same grades one of them will just be „the nerd“ and the other one will be the invisible to men and women. One of them will still have more success in dating because of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 10:59 PM
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Given I feel more compelled to help a women instead of a men, but this isn’t about being thirsty. It’s more like a instinct, but this doesn’t apply to work. In work and in my teams I need competence and to meet goals. This laws are only about certain jobs and as it’s nearly impossible to prove it you can still hire whom you want. Furthermore: This only applies to pretty women, average or below average women aren’t treated better. Adding on that the same applies to men. Men who are taller earn mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:54 PM
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Would care to elaborate on the why and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:35 PM
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The actual interessting part is that you had a bigger group, which split in two groups who wanted to expand their territory, who got again into a fight with a third group. Additionally those females weren't integrated into the group again, they were just killed. If it was just about "a lack of females", then you would expect that they integrate them again. ​ Also tools are widely used: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150818-chimps-living-in-the-stone-age ​ Additionally the mirror test you obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 07:57 PM
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Why not? In the worst case I lose him. If we aren’t really close it might hurt a bit, but it doesn’t really matter. Plus: I’m 99% sure that I’m getting more support of a friend group with men, then of one with women. And I I’m the one who wants sex I can quite easily pull that off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:43 PM
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Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:32 AM
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With self awareness you not only have covered the scientific one, but also a few philosophical ones. And as mentioned before we already know of „wars“ and the grouping of apes. Edit: Additionally there are a few species who use tools and a few bird species who can and do learn from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:39 AM
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None, but sentience is not defined by the question: „Does a species have philosophers?“ For this the mirror test was developed, because you can prove self awareness with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:23 AM
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> Sentience has never been seen except in humans. Wrong > How is that natural? That's a more philosophical question, but as I see it: Humans are part of nature, we just evolved to have intelligence as weapon instead of sprinting, muscle mass or sharp teeth. > If science is nature then how does science explain it and explain its uniqueness? Sentience is not unique to humans, so there is no need to explain. We even have recorded wars between ape clans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:25 PM
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I agree with the rest, but to the nature part: That’s still a part of nature you basically can’t act out of your nature, because you are a part of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:43 PM
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Looking at the guestworkers of Austria this did not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:40 PM
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Given the numbers real life dating is also way easier for men. The so often cited 80/20 rule comes from ok cupid or tinder data, so clearly online dating. Given the chances it is actually the reverse, women have it easier online and men have it easier offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:46 PM
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Bro, I’m actively dating with success and seeing people as individuals, with individual needs and wants is one thing which always helps you. 😂 Regardless if you want to get a pay raise, gain access to a group or speak to women. Maybe you all should not be so fast with your judgment. 😂 But yes you are correct,this sub regressed to a shit show filled with Incels and victim mentality.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/20 01:19 PM
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And? I also don’t really get matches on Tinder, but who cares? Just go out to have fun with your friends or ask the cute colleague at work? Or depending on your age you can also go to a hostel, to party with the travellers and there are always girls. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:41 AM
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OLD can work, but it is not good. Even if you get some matches with good looking partners, you still have to go to the date to know if you actually feel attraction. This way both men and women lose good matches, because they just judge by pictures. The bad looking guy can still cause tingles in her and the slightly below average women in him, but they'll never meet. Cold approaching still works for me, but only in group settings in which the contact is natural or at least feels natural. Eg.: *On…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:22 AM
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All I’m saying is that if other guys are getting dates with girls and girls are open to talking to them then technically those same girls who are opening to dating guys should have no issue with me asking them out unless they have a problem with all guys Kind of agreed, but more often than not the problem arises if the guy gets rejected, if the guy doesn't get the hint or if he is straight up harrasing her. Guys getting attacked for simply asking a girl out is something I have not really witness…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:52 AM
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„Objectively attractive“ vs. „I feel attracted to that person“ Nice face, big boobs and a petite body looks good on a women, but if you are attracted or if it’s just enough to get your dick hard is a whole different thing. And I don’t get your last paragraph at all. Like „okay?“ Most Incels on Incels subs still write about going back to the „old order“?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:36 AM
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I’m a man and god this sub has really gone to shit... It used to be a misogynic, but with some solid advice and now you have politics and MGTOW posts... I’ll bet that this sub will have Incel posts in a few months.... Even the field reports sound more and more like badly written fan fictions...
/r/TheRedPill29/11/20 09:30 AM
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The first argument was to show, that it’s natural for people to chose among the most attractive available persons a partner. To your second point: Not unattractive <> attractive My ex-gf and I ended our relationship, because „the spark“ was gone. We simply weren’t in each other anymore, all that while we still liked each other and thought the other one is good looking. To add on that there are many women out there who look good, but only a few of them are * really * attractive to me. I literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:20 AM
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I mean if Incels are „entitled“ that would mean women are entitled for trying to get anything they want [...] No, because they fought for the freedom of choice and basic rights. There is big quality difference in asking for the right of vote and demanding that person x loves you. And 99.99% of them don’t go around and demand that good looking men need to lust after them or love them. But that’s exactly what many Incels demand from women. If they could they would force women to feel attraction to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:52 AM
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I stumbled on TRP a few years ago and checked it out. Back then I did not really subscribe to the views, but I tried a few things, which led me to the realisation that trp is just basic self help with misogyny. That’s why I still say, they got some things right(1), but most of the „the nature of women“ (2) stuff is blatantly false. After that I checked out purple pill debate and after a few comments I ended up here and now I’m checking the posts once in a while, because I’m interested. (1) Lifti…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/20 09:45 PM
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I see it more as cycle: The people who put in the work (working out, getting a hobby, taking responsibility, face your fears, actually start talking to people, get out to have fun and not for women etc.) get inactive after a while, because they don't need it anymore. I mean they have success and maybe filled their life with something more meaningful, they don't need the crutch anymore. (In the end TRP and PUA are just crutches, you won't need them later) And the rest who just LARPs stays, after …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:35 PM
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I'm subbed to it since about 2 years, while I have never "taken the pill" I still found some good advice regarding "self help" there and I have kinda seen it as "You can say anything" - zone. And today this post just came up, so I read through it and posted my opinion regarding the post. In short: No expactation, just doing. (And in the best case some guys don't fall down the "I hate women, I just go MGTOW" route, because this won't bring them any success at all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:51 PM
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Not really something, it's just interessting to see for me how the whole sub went from "Misogynic, but some useful advice" to "MGTWO and Incel territory mixed with politics" and PPD happens to be one of the few places you can post such an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:23 PM
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Wasn't the red pill once just "a set of tools", "amoral", against feeling like a victim and not really into politics? Well, it seems like this times are over: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/k24tpf/they_are_training_us_to_become_monsters_and_they It's funny how Incels and MGTOWs seem to ruin this sub now. If I would be into the red pill I would be pissed I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:39 PM
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Using „female“ instead of women is cringe af Edit: Correction. The whole post is cringe as fuck. You are here on a board, which calls women over 25 „jaded“ and yet you are here posting a post full of resentment, entitlement and grief. You are the equivalent of the girl who had a bad relationship with a guy or just a bad taste, who is then complaining that „all men are pigs“. Sorry, not sorry. But hey at least you realised by now that both of you can end the relationship for whatever reason. Now …
/r/TheRedPill28/11/20 12:41 PM
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For me personally it makes a ton of difference, because I’ll treat „it’s mah metabolism“ guy like a moron and the „I know that it’s my fault and I also know how I can change it“ like someone who deserves sympathy. If the second one can take responsibility here it’s more than likely that he is also ready to take responsibility somewhere else. Additionally the second guy knows for himself how he can change the fact, he doesn’t reject responsibility. If you compare both one of them is way more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:16 AM
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And the end of the we will all die, no matter how healthy or unhealthy we have acted. But back to your example: I can respect one of them and it’s not the one who says that he has „a slow metabolism“.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:11 AM
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The one who says that he likes to eat a lot at least knows that it’s in his hands to change, while the other has defeatist mindset. So yes one of them does better, because one takes responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:55 PM
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You don't need a pill for that, you can just take a abrahamitic religion like Christianity, Islam or Judaism. ​ But if you want generally awareness of social interactions and power dynamics you can read: 48 Laws Of Power The 33 strategies of war The Art Of Seduction I personally would blend this with stoicism as it is kinda like a operating mode for the brain to deal with high stress situations. ​ But again: Why would you want a ideology, when you can make your own decisions?
/r/ExRedPill25/11/20 06:16 PM
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Captain for what? Ideally you have anyways similar goals and if both are somewhat rational, both will have similar opinions on who stays at home for how long, because they see the same facts. Let’s say it’s mainly the man, then this would be even more winning in my opinion. Like you can spend time with your children and you can raise them according to your ideals, things on which men typically miss out a bit. And if you have already lived alone for a while you are already used to cook and to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:07 PM
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I don't get the relevance here, because being with someone you love and someone who is earning more at the same time doesn't sound like a bad deal or losing. Still: Who likes losing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:05 PM
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That is why there is nothing “insecure” about a man preferring a woman who makes less than him and it just shows that such a man understands the dynamics between the genders and female nature and he’s just trying to save himself from the potential of being divorced, disrespected, or cheated on. This sounds exactly like insecurity to me. Like you just want a excuse to not take the leap. Why do I think this? If you fall in love, you fall in love with the person foremost, which is one ingredient fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:01 PM
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Why should they cut them loose? After all she really only saw them as friend. She genuinely believed that she only got nice and expensive presents from them because they were good friends. After all they never stated that they want a relationship with her, it was always about friendship. I brought it up a few times that it might be unfair to those guys and that she is stringing then along and she was again like „No, they are just friends and they know it.“ So I really believe that this isn’t hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:54 PM
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And you suggest that we treat them like sensible victims? Do you also suggest that we do that with Flat earthers or Neo Nazis?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:43 AM
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We are seeing what every day here, hm?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:54 AM
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You want to paint them as victims, while they have thrown the first stone... They have decided that women are less worth in their eyes, not me. They have decided to be bitter, not me. So please don’t paint them as poor victims. Your choices have consequences. If you want to be part of the mainstream again, you have to put your bigoted ideology aside. And here it doesn’t even matter if I emphasise, because even if I emphasis you’ll have to leave your views on women outside. Some of my best friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:27 AM
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You need both, the ones who remove them from the middle of society and the ones who bring them back once they are ready. So I rather keep possible victims of backwards ideologies, but you can play the other part. Edit: Additionally the thing you are describing works only with people who have compassion. Some who „hate“ people because they see in them the devil, for reasons they aren’t. But if the really believe in the inferiority of said group it won’t help unless you show them a few time the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:58 AM
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If they want to speak with me they can, but they should know that they can’t be my friend if they don’t get rid of their views. (Or they at least need to stop pouting them.) Just as example: You see one of my best friends is gay and another one is bisexual. Do you know think I’ll respect people who are openly homophobic? With this I would betray my friends and everything I stand for. Showing a way back is okay, but first they have to pay their price for their bigotry aka. „You have only a chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:10 AM
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I don’t think that the vast majority of Orbiters can give emotional fulfilment beyond a friendship level. I knew the most guys who were orbiting around my ex gf personally and they generally were yes men with the charisma of toast and without a capacity for any aggression. And with this it’s already hard to be respected as friend, but in a relationship? Never. This are not the guys who will protect you without thinking and this are not the guys in which you can fall to feel safe as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:00 AM
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Not RP, but I agree with your advice framed as question. So yes: It's possible, it's worth it and I wouldn't start a relationship if I wouldn't enjoy her company. Having said that, I wouldn't start a relationship if I don't have a sexual attraction to her, as this would hurt me and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 06:12 PM
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Hate groups work by radicalising each other. An and die they think, only they own „the truth“. Only dogmatic answers are allowed and every other person is either a foe or a ally and I don’t think like that. (which is one of the main reasons I’m not into TRP) You care more about who is right, than what is right I’m not tolerant to intolerant assholes. You want to be misogynistic? Be it somewhere else. You want to be homophobic? Be it somewhere else. etc. You can speak about what you want, but oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 11:04 AM
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You say the world is unfair but you don’t know what that means Even though this is unnecessary personal attack so you feel better I’ll play along... I was mobbed for most of my school life and I have epilepsy, which means that wasn’t allowed to drive a car for 3 years. Is that fair? No. Do I still have to deal with it anyways? Incels aren’t the only ones who have a hard time, but you either adapt or you don’t. Good luck if you don’t adapt, though. You don’t care if you contribute to hate and int…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 10:25 AM
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Two things: No 1: If you have put in the work than this isn’t about you I just don’t see this happen on a large basis. And even there I’m just looking down on those who moan about the unfairness of the world, while they don’t put in any work. Those who are fat slobs without social skills, who wonder why no good looking women wants to be with them. Those who call women “foids” and think that we should go back to “the old order”. (Seriously no compassion or mercy for the last sort) No 2: If how I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 08:43 AM
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You are the one implyuing that I didnt work as hard as most people or others. That you deserve to be in a relationship. That you deserve to date. I'm implying that the vast majority of Incels has a mindset or psychological problem and not a physological problem. My actual mindset of dating or anything in life: Life isn't fair and to think about how easy or hard it is for others is a fools errand, because you have to play with the cards you got dealt. Yes I put in more effort then you have before…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:45 PM
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Waiting is wrong, it's more like I don't see how this makes a real difference. In the end you can anyways just need healthy boundaries with realistic expectations. She might cheat on you and leave you? Welp, maybe, but it's also possible that you end up cheating on her. We are all humans and stuff like this can happen either way and to both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 04:53 PM
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Does it matter? As long as there is no proof, both of us have only anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 03:45 PM
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Come on, I have seen conversations like this all over here and as stated somewhere below the Incels are voting each other up for this statements. Anyways: If you see that the majority thinks different and my thesis is wrong feel free to link a actually Incelthread/Forum, where this is discussed or put it yourself here in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 01:39 PM
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Dude I have put in a massive amount of work and tried to date women I didnt find attractive and it made me felt liek a lying sack of shit flirting and asking out women I had no attraction to. And the thing is, you probably won't believe me. I just won't believe you, if you say you did that consistently and had no date and no success at all. And that's fine but maybe you should stop spending your time calling other people whiney and just be thankful that you have love in your life. A love which y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 01:25 PM
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That could very well be, but at least for my circles and for my location I'm not. A little bit of background: I'm 25 and I'm somewhere between middle class and upper middle class and I'm working in well paid white collar IT job. And I'm one of the few people I know who puts a Story into instagram 3-7 times a week or who uploads pictures from his travels. For most of my peers +/- 3 years this isn't a thing at all, they even tend to tell me that I'm addicted to Instagram. Still if you tell me that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 01:16 PM
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This honestly sounds like bad vetting... Maybe you are also behaving like doormate. I know this sounds like victimblaming, but you can't change other people so you have to change yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:45 PM
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I’ve rarely seen that in the wild. So yes it happens, but it happens in about the same frequency that men cheat in a committed relationship. I’ve mostly read about stories how this is big problem on reddit r/trp. So I’ll wait for some proof in the form of studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:37 AM
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I’ve yet to see proof for this behaviour, but I respect your view on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:30 AM
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Okay, so no pattern except rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:26 AM
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The people in my country work together if it is about things like that, so you solution would not fit the mindset of my country. However you can argue this with your politicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:59 PM
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You might not care [...] And? So what? I will also unconsciously „compare“ other women to the girl I’ve been with for 4 years, that’s normal. Where is the harm in that if she does it? We will always automatically relate to past experiences. I really fail to see a problem here. In practice this comes of as desperation [...] Only if you do it clumsy, if you are already cool with the people you plan to spend time with it’s a non issue. Source: I did that a few times and I never had problems. When d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:53 PM
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Completely off topic, but hey... As much as I hate the lockdown, as much I see it as necessary. Most ICU beds are already filled here and even with the lockdown we get more and more cases. If this doesn’t stop they have to start with the triage system here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:22 PM
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The only issue I have now is that most women are not like that. As quick example: My Ex Gf was heavily into cosplay and she tried to build some of the former bullied guys there up again. And if you talk about this openly most women (at least in my circles) will show sympathy, because that is not normal behviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:10 PM
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Some people have issues and you can't help them, you aren't running a charity... And the more stories you tell me, the more it sounds like you only dated wome with some serious issues. Oh and healthy boundaries? Try setting those as a low value male as FDS would put it and you will be alone. The women on the bottom only will date and be friends with men so that they can use them either as a wallet or for some other reason. I have the opposite expierence... I guess you would have even better fare…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:50 PM
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Here's the basic template. You're in a social situation bar/club/party/whatever ... . The woman smiles at you -- you acknowledge -- you move closer -- she doesn't move away -- you put your arm around her -- she reciprocates -- you retire to a convenient location and fuck! Okay, my template is You see a group of girls in Bar and one of them seems interessted --> You ask if you can join them and then you have some fun with all of them (drinking, dancing, etc.) --> Then you leave with the girl you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:39 PM
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I should have rephrased this bit; it's less about the propinquity itself but more about when it begins, i.e. in school, when girls generally don't know their worth and haven't been exposed to high-value men. At that point, their peers are their only option, wherein an unattractive boy might luck out. Again though, with girls being exposed to social media at younger and younger ages, this old "high school sweetheart" trope is dying at the same rate. Well then this is theory I don't share.. ​ Besi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:31 PM
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First this means you aren't a Incel, second it sounds like you have been with some shitty women and stuff like this can happen. You need to learn how to set up healthy boundaries. I also don't think that it was because you weren't a Chad or some rich abuser... Aside from that I can't really say anything, because I don't know you or the situation enough to say anything with substance about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:15 PM
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Welp, you need to be able to socialize with everyone in the group or to even be accepted in the group in the first place so it's still a necessary skill. And for me talking less has always resulted in worse results, because that's just not natural for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:06 PM
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Well that's a thing to be proud of but I don't think that this is the key to success. (If there even is a key) For me socializing and losing some weight was the key. I was literally unable to pull anything in the villages around me and then I moved to a bigger city, because of work. There I had to rebuild all of my social circles and I also had to learn how you socialize in a not weird way, but this has helped me the most. Having said that: I also click more with kinda-progressive-yet-conservati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:55 PM
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If #2 is already in the upper league I have my underestimated my looks my whole life. LMAO I would have said that #2 is around average, but the body of #1 literally looks like greek sculpture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:47 PM
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Well.. How is it in Eastern Europe? I'm now double interested, because I'm currently hoping to date a specific polish girl, but I wasn't able to visit her because of COVID. And what do you mean with you "work harder"? You are trying harder to socialize/get a better body/better look/cologne?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:43 PM
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Not being fat slob and being able to socialize are normal healthy human things, as in everyone should do this. And getting decent clothes might be foreign to others but it's also pretty normal for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:40 PM
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With all of the three? No, but if the short,fat and ugly guy starts to lift and stays consequent for a year while he does a make over of his clothes he will get at least some results if he starts to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:20 PM
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No offense taken and you are right. I just bring this topic up quite a bit, because currently some guys who are virgins are starting to seriously date and some of them don't look good and they get at some results, while some of them look good and they don't get results. It's not at all like you would read it on Incel subs. A guy with a good face, a buff body with a height of 1,85m should do great and the scrawny nerdy who just recently discovered what a deo is should do bad, but I see the opposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:18 PM
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True... This post was more borne from a half assed thought I had and I was kinda bored, because of the lockdown in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:04 PM
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I mostly hear this from red pillers though? But yes nobody wants people who always play the victim, I can't even stand this attitude on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:01 PM
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The majority of such cases happen because the guy knew the girl for a long time and built propinquity with her, and she grew to like him through the mere exposure effect. Incels have a term for this, "just be first theory". It's also more apparent in older people who were not exposed to social media in their youth. I'm not gonna ask you for sources as there clearly aren't any, but hey you can still join hobby groups. Cosplaying for the weebs (full of women), photography, cooking and so on. Danci…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:47 PM
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Now you confuse me... I thought women „use“ betas to „settle“ with them and Alphas are just for fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:14 PM
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You do? Well, I already had many conversations like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jv6i76/incel_feminism_and_fds_megathread/gcyctri/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 But as you seem to be different: What are the reasons aside from looks you failed to get a gf or a ONS? How many dates have you been to? What was the typical flow of a conversation in which you have asked for a date? (If this has been done hundreds of times you might have seen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:20 PM
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If this is years later it’s more likely that the relationship did not work for a reason or another and she got eventually over him. And without looks or a exciting personality it’s less likely that she can attract a man who has all the standards she wants, so she either lowers them or she stays single. That’s less of a strategy and more like normal human behaviour. Like you see the same in men as well... „I can’t get a women with x, y and z so I sacrifice z as long as the rest is okay. At least …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 06:53 PM
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Well yes... If the methodology is wrong or if it suffers from a bais which was not eliminated you basically have to discard the whole study, because then you can’t trust your data at all. Then you can in the best case use the study as indicator in a direction, but you can’t really draw conclusions out of it. You can’t simply use it for your points and cherry pick conclusion a) while you disregard conclusion b), because the same data was used for both conclusions. Edit: You can for sure still mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 06:34 PM
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"This proves that TRP is right" vs. "are we sure that it's only low value women?" Either the study is sound and correct or it's not and if it's sound and correct, then why should we question the numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:48 PM
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So this phenomenon does exist, it’s not something trp has made up. The question we should all be asking is, if the results of the study are to be trusted and it’s mainly only women of low value who engage in this behavior, how do men screen for and know who are those low value women and how to avoid them? You are choosing to believe a study enough to prove that a phenomen exists, but not enough to trust the actual numbers? Interessting. ​ Anyways: Black Pill and unattractive men tend to be (very…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 05:39 PM
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My current thesis about incels is: The main problem of Incels is entitlement and the fear of rejection. ​ Why? If you discuss a bit with them you have in 99% of all the cases the same flow: Incel: "I can't get women, because of xyz." Poster: "Okay, well I know guys who are like this and they have girl friends and some of their girlfriends are even hot." Incel: "No, that doesn't work for me." Poster: "Okay, if that doesn't work and you are really that ugly, then why aren't you going for someone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 03:32 PM
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A concise answer about what I expect from Incels (and generally people): Be an adult and take responsibility You can’t change your height and you can’t change your face? At this point you can either complain or you accept the things you can’t change. Once you have accepted that you can start to focus on the things you actually can change. You can at least get as attractive and as successful as possible for yourself. One of the two possible paths has the chance to get somewhere, while the other d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 05:44 PM
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I don't see many ugly women, but I also don't see many ugly men... If your face isn't a total wreck and you do all of the above you are also a 4/10 as man. (I know that you will tell me now, that women rate men different) But what do you expect, if you think that you look like a train wreck beyond redemption? As for what women you should look for... There are enough weird yet decent looking women out there who aren't as much into looks. Maybe try something with them? Many of them are into anime …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 04:53 PM
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You are very accountable imho, because you can except of your face change almost anything about you looks wise. Too much weight? Loose some! To less muscle mass? Go to the gym? Shitty posture? Make regualr attempts to improve it. etc. The character is harder or impossible to change(1), but here I see the responsibility to take ownership. You either adapt or you accept that you will get reject for who you are. ​ The important thing is: Other people are not obliged to like you. Women are not oblig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 04:36 PM
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I know nothing about New York, but I guess there are also foreign women. So if you can’t pull white women you can still try the foreign ones. Also: Shaving your head and putting on decent clothes is only half the deal, you should lift and get jacked. This would help Flynn a lot. (And at least to me he doesn’t look massively ugly, but I’m not American so I have been raised with a different sense of beauty) Edit: And at least to me this all sounds like a excuse. For those who are short the height …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 04:05 PM
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Here we are ultimately disagreeing. I have been in very similar situation as him and learning how to communicate with non nerds, learning how to socialise with other people has brought me the success. Before Nada, I was too afraid to speak to women, then I wasn’t and I said wrong things only after I learned how you speak with a women I got success. And this process consisted of walking from failure to failure until it started to actually work. (And I fully understand if people don’t want to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 03:00 PM
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Let’s say his height and his skin color played a huge part: He still had to adapt his whole behaviour. He had to exchange hobbies, he picked up new habits and he learned how to socialise with women and older guys. He learned how to dress flashy and fancy all this stuff. Before that he was only in nerd circles, so that’s still a 180 degree change in his behaviour. It’s not like this all was god given, you have to learn all this as well otherwise your looks won’t get you anything. (And if you ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:10 PM
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I don’t really see women fawning over him... And let’s be real no one of them is gonna kiss or fuck him anyways, so.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 12:52 PM
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But you know what the real take away is here: He still looks like shit in the second picture and got laid. With this all the “Women care only about looks 😭😭” argumentation falls apart. Because he looks like shit, but this doesn’t hinder him to get laid. So what’s your excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 12:47 PM
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He can just go for the skinhead-rough look and getting ripped is something every guy can do. And ripped short guy > Regular scrawny guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:55 AM
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Are you serious? Being attractive gives you a buff, but if you are a bitter guy with the charisma of bread who puts women on a pedestal you’ll still struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 10:56 AM
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Point is: He still looks like shit in the second picture, he only got social proof in the second picture. And if you ask me the guy in the video has the potential to look way better than the guy who made the video... He could just shave his head, get contacts, start to lift and get nice clothes. Then he would still have the problem of his personality though...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 10:54 AM
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As I said: Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 08:37 AM
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The problem I see here is that he won’t be able to change his character in meaningful way, because even if he was a 10/10 his introduction would have been cringe af. If you now combine this character with a 5/10 look you’ll also struggle big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 08:00 AM
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Hahah, my day has just started and you are already my comedy hero. This is a classic misunderstanding not „I’m right in any angle“. I was literally not able to know which definition you are using. Even in maths you would put a plus and a minus if you are not able to know, because of missing definition. Normal people would have said something like “We are talking about different things, so back to the main topic.”. And even though I haven’t checked your post history I would guess that you have ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 07:54 AM
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Brad Pitt would also be cringe if he called into a payed stream and if he showed of his family in this stream lol And search for cringe compilations of your favourite good looking youtuber! You will normally find enough Videos. So good looking guys and women can also be cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:56 AM
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It is not completely opposed. Showing that you feel bad and acting based on the feeling are two different things. You can show emotions, while you are still acting according to rationality. Eg.: Your family dog has bitten your child, which is now in the hospital. You have to kill the dog and be there for your child and nobody will see you less of a stoic, if you show that you feel sad because of it. But yes, according to the dictionary definition you are correct. Thing is, I first thought of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:48 AM
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Stoicism is a whole philosophy with different schools and thoughts. The idea is to feel your feelings, but then you should reflect on why you are feeling it and calm yourself down. (I’ll try to find some quotes from Marc Aurel regarding this topic) Anyways, I guess you just meant the dictionary definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:23 AM
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Watch further, he also puts pictures of himself in there. And yes his personality is his problem, the whole video is just cringe. Even if he would be Brad Pitt he would be cringe and a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:08 AM
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The guy who made the whole video has a point though and he even backs it up with his pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 09:27 PM
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Why would I call you a beta? There are lots of fake „alphas“ and LARPers here, who fear every other opinion and everything which might let them appear less alpha. Your perspective on relationships is that of a teenagers [...] The thing is this random factors are often deeply embedded in our minds and we are often formed by them. And given they are not the non plus ultra or all but they help. If you have similar experiences you are more likely to have the same or similar goals for example. Same o…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/20 05:23 PM
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It really depends on what you understand as „emotional expressive“... Normally it doesn’t hurt to show hints of anger, envy, sadness, etc. as long as you don’t get overwhelmed. Sometimes it even helps your reputation if you show „righteous“ anger. The only thing: You should not (immediately) act on them. What (normally) really hurts your standing though is, if you are the guy with the sob stories who always feels like a victim. Or if you are the sort of guy who is easily controlled by his feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:48 PM
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Stoicism doesn’t forbid emotional expressiveness at all. You should even feel it, because you can’t change it anyhow. You just shouldn’t act on it or at least immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 03:38 PM
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I see the cope more on TRP side to be honest and the basic self help stuff as Lifting, Social Power Dynamics and so on is also available in less toxic environments. There you will also have less of „that totally happend“ stories like: „I was a pathetic loser before and now I’m +30 and I fuck 19 year old college girls (8/10!!!) on a regular basis.“, like dude... Who will believe you that without any evidence?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/20 09:04 AM
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Please check out r/niceguys and you will notice „nice“ <> nice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:46 AM
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..but one thing is always obvious it’s not going to last. Welp, nothing is going to last and death is the only certainty. So I’m rather taking the risk, because everything else feels so useless and pointless to me. I’m aware that she was not mine - it was just my turn A strange way of thinking, because she was yours and you were hers for the time you were together. And given that we only have the present... As for the rest: I’m 25 and I already had a 4 year relationship... While I’m not well ver…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 09:14 PM
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You know, the thing many people here would call „a gay blue pill dream“. The whole thing a genuine connection based on mutual desire and interests, similar goals. You support each other instead of „dread game“ or other narcissistic games. The kind of relationship in which you don’t leave each other, because one of the partners gets sick.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 01:43 PM
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You can fuck gold diggers, sugar babes and girls with daddy kinks all day long. Just be aware that_ you will never_ be able to build a meaningful relationship with them. inb4 „You can’t have meaningful relationships with women anyways!!!1!1!1!“
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 12:40 PM
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Is now the moment, I should brag about my past relationship, the girls I banged, my income and my flat? Ah nah, believe what you want to believe.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 10:46 AM
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If you want them: More power to you!
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 10:44 AM
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That’s the next thing... You stay the fuck away from vulnerable girls, you for the ones who want to make something out of themselves... Women who care about their careers for example, women who don’t need outside validation. And trust me: It’s easy to find out if that’s the case. The problem you have is that you are probably hanging out with the „party girls“ and the ones which are not like this have completely different circles. I know myself enough women who are like this and they are cool to …
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 10:43 AM
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Except that you aren’t orbiting if you don’t expect anything, because you do it for the fun of it. lol Those people who are into Snapchat also snap with their male friends on daily basis, you think that they are also gay and that they want to fuck each other?
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 10:22 AM
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„The secret“ is to go for women who have been in LTRs previously and also a location which doesn’t favour fast sex. My area is still very conservative in this regard, but I’m also not US based, soo...
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 10:17 AM
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I agree partly with you: Yes you definitely should set up a meeting asap, if you don’t see it as shallow fun. What I not agree with is that women who sleep in the regular with older men are not somewhat damaged. You do you and you can have them, but I would never consider a relationship with them. There are enough women out there who haven’t fucked around and I’m not into casual sex, so chances that we somehow end up together are low anyways.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 10:07 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with that, but who in our age group is fucking a +30 old boomer? Bingo! Gold diggers, girls with issues, escorts and prostitutes.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/20 08:54 AM
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It’s hot + if I know her and she does it extra for me, maybe in hot lingerie I’m feeling extra validated (?) Dunno it just feels good
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:59 PM
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No, it’s fine the way it is. The only problem I have with platonic friendships is for me that if both are single „stupid“ things tend to happen, but I had never the experience that women won’t trust me because I’m a man. But hey I’m still good with my ex and I have some great friendships with other women, so I’m obviously not the guy who complains about stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 07:55 PM
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Actual life experience I guess. And also the realisation that I have seen all the behaviour „of women“ in men too. (Also partly in myself) After that it wasn’t hard to figure that all the described behaviour is a all-human topic and not a women/men topic.
/r/ExRedPill16/11/20 07:51 PM
1

Ah so you only want a proper or honest comment on why it hasn’t worked out. Well, you also don’t get this really as man... The world is just full of shitty people. I can’t change them, so my opinion on them doesn’t really matter. If you want to hear it anyways: Every person who always seeks the problems in other people is a problem for society, but they won’t change. So it’s a fools errand to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:07 PM
1

Well that’s for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:16 AM
2

You could have Michele Obama or the female version of Keanu Reeves next to you, but if you are nor looking for anything serious at the moment, it’s in vain. What? Well sure. If I’m currently not open for a relationship I might still be not interested, but what do you expect? Should I be forced to a date if I have no interest at all? The attention falls on why the women is not proper rather than what the man has decided about what excludes her I don’t know exactly if you mean other people, but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:57 AM
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Hm. I can only speak for myself, but for me „checking personality“ means compatibility. Can I go with you on a hike or on a road trip? Are you the adventurous type? Can we laugh together about dirty jokes or will hate me if make a inappropriate joke? What do you want to do in your life? Are you also a kind of workaholic? Do you want to split household chores? etc. That’s how I check the personality and it’s important that we are at least somewhat compatible. Because we both would be miserable if…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 09:56 PM
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So I have a few points: 1) I don't see how women have higher standards, at least for LTR they seem to be about the same. 2) There are enough men who would fuck anything. So women have more chance to be picky and if you have the chance you obviously use it to be with the one who is better match. 3) I disagree with the "better looking" part, at least in my area they lifestyle of men and women is somewath similar and this is also presented in their looks. But most women in my area are more pragmati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 07:15 PM
2

Words have a meaning... If it isn’t about testosterone one shouldn’t use the word testosterone... But yes, agreed...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:19 PM
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Correct it drops after ejaculation, then it rises for about 7 days until it falls again and I wouldn't have a problem if it was stated that way, but praising "semen rentention" as manly thing which suddenly increases all your testosteron levels is dump. If you want to go with the scientific approach you fap every 7 days or only have sex once a week. PS: If it helps there is no harm if you do it. I just hate the spread of false information and if you have newer studies I'm more than glad to look …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 02:59 PM
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If you give a proper definition of decline, then it’s measurable. If you define what „masculine countries“ are, then you als can measure that to a degree. (For example as foreign influence) And there are actually studies on how to increase testosterone levels. The answer is high muscle mass, low body fat, exercise and Vitamin D. —> No fap is bullshit All of this is measurable if you define it properly, but in the sloppy written posts there is of course no proper definition, just ideology for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 02:07 PM
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„Society is declining, because men have now on average less testosterone than before.“ (OP hasn’t even defined what he defines as decline 🤷‍♂️) „Our society will be taken over by more „masculine“ countries!“ „The best way to raise testosterone levels is by stopping to jerk off.“ etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 01:26 PM
1

The ones which are required right now? It just is important that they are the same.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/20 12:44 PM
1

Why should I care if he does exist somewhere? lol If my gf/wife decides to cheat she is trash and I don’t want to have anything to do with her in the future and if she doesn’t he is irrelevant so why should I or anybody care?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 11:06 PM
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It tells you something about white racism in the US at best It tells you nothing about white racism in Europe or white racism in Africa. Different cultures and all the jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 06:10 PM
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Other examples would be: "Every white person is racist!" "Islamic people don't integrate, because nobody they are always excluded from others." or some of the other shit the rad left has been pulling off lately. ​ You want me to believe that? Well, better provide some fucking studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:44 PM
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Your or my decision making isn't part of the equation and you are still entitled to your opinion. And of course you will decide what you do based on the avialable data and your opinion. However presenting something as fact without evidence is another story and that's basically my main problem with the red pill. Often you see posts like: "A bunch of women does something bad, this means all womens are bad in this way" "Society is on the decline, because of feminism and because women got more right…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:35 PM
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Re: Immigrants, Islam, etc. I guess Sweden has nutcase politicans too. Also those guys are also out of a patriachical culture and they bring one of the shittiest religions ever with them... I also don't see this as male vs. female problem more as the paradox of tolerance in action. If you want to protect western values, then you have to fight those how abuse it and again I fail to see this as gendered issue. ​ For the US part I agree with you, but and I see this as "feminin" or "male" problem. M…
/r/TheRedPill14/11/20 05:26 PM
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If you want to view it through the lense of humanities then you just can't state as fact as in "women are xyz", you'll have to say "in my opinion women are..." or "..person xyz thinks that women are...". As long as there is no qunatifieable data there is no way to state is definitive fact and then it's just another opinion with more or less anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:06 PM
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If you want to claim that women 100% aren't able to pairbond after n-count x you'll better bring a good study. Otherwise I'll have to ask you if you are pulling always random numbers out of your ass. If you just state xyz as your opinion that women shouldn't be doing x, then state it as your opinion not as fact and I won'T bother you. But if you are running around and telling people that men and women are vastly different in xyz and science proves it I will ask you for the studies. Just don't us…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:03 PM
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Now users on r/TheRedPill want me bannend, because I dared to ask for scientific evidence of a claim, one usere even accused me of "scientism" Aren't the red pillers normally those guys who laugh about safe spaces? I guess now they need one themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 09:27 AM
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So many words for: "I don't have any scientifc backings for my claims, but I still disagree with you." ​ traditional gender roles (???, that is something who has no idea about any of what TRP is about would say) Or somebody who doesn't completly agree with TRP, but as I said before this doesn't change anything about the arguments. science doesn't say that (and you're the omniscient science god, because you don't know about this being backed up by science, you think it's not backed up by science)…
/r/TheRedPill14/11/20 08:57 AM
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Hahahaha, please specify which claims I made with my questions. 😂 The rest was just a answer to his answer 🤷‍♂️
/r/TheRedPill14/11/20 12:17 AM
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You say “scientism” as if it as bad thing 😂 “Oh no! He actually asks for proof if I make a ridiculous claim! Mods ban him!” What are you bro? Against science? Or do you need a safe space? huh?
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 11:48 PM
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I’m not disagreeing that there are differences in how we think, I’m merely disagreeing in the amount of the difference. And I also don’t really see a feminist take over like OP does. I personally think that a free society works best, because the differences between men and women are on average while the individuals are still acting pretty much the same. So let the people do what the feel like they are best suited for, because that’s it what they will choose. Eg.: Sweden. They have they most laws…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 10:34 PM
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Sorry dude, you make the claim means that you bring the evidence. And as this are extraordinary claims you better bring some good studies. Okay so a masculine country is basically a capitalist patriarchy without the negative sides of said patriarchy. So people are forced into roles and it doesn’t matter if they want or can full fill said roles. And a “feminine country” is a socialist (?) country where people can live their life according to their wishes. With people who communicate and without r…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 08:27 PM
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So no sources.... About AWALT: Everyone knows or should know that every person can cheat or be unloyal and AWALT is just this concept mirrored on women. The same is true for men and/or friends. If you truly think that only women are like this you should look up studies about cheating or people who leave their spouse if their spouse gets sick.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 07:51 PM
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As I said: Do you have any research on this? Because anecdotal evidence doesn’t help us here
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 07:35 PM
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If you want a serious discussion: 1) Define a masculine country 2) Define a feminine country 3) Give examples of “feminisation” or “masculinisation” and why this is bad/good 4) Name reasons why this would benefit some not named “manipulators” 5) As this whole post is about testosterone: Explain how this is related to testosterone and back this up with studies
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 07:34 PM
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I don't know man, I have never felt weak after sex or masturbation. Do you have any legit research on this?
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 06:32 PM
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Wrong: https://www.healthline.com/health/masturbation-and-testosterone?c=515526052539#research Loosing weight, gaining muscles and quitting drinking as well as smoking is the way to go.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 06:30 PM
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Bro science strikes again and you are even partly correct.. Being overweight also lowers testosterone levels and every first world nation has becoming fatter and fatter. However the part about „feminization“ by „the media“ is not rooted science. That this is done on purpose to „control people“ is a flat out conspiracy theory. That it’s „a women’s nature to submit“ is also not rooted in scientific research. That „feminin societies“ are being taken over by masculine ones is also not rooted in scie…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/20 05:19 PM
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You still can make videos about basic hygiene, perfumes or buying good clothes. 😎👉👉
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 12:37 PM
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Maybe he was for other reasons super popular and therefore desirable. I know that I had similar experiences as I was still in school... The class beauty was into me out of spite... Just because of the following occurrence: She said „I can have every boy!“ and I responded with „No. I wouldn’t fuck you. I have a beautiful girlfriend.“
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 12:10 PM
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I dispute the whole question about „looks match“. There either is attraction or their isn’t and it doesn’t really matter if the partner is your „objective looksmatch“ or not. I might be biased here, because in a year I only feel real attraction to 2-3 women and they are not always „objective attractive“. Because of this I’m also not really compelled by the idea of an „objective rating system“, which is required for a looks match. In the end it’s about mutual attraction and compatibility at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 09:12 AM
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Hahaha, even in my relationship I wanted more sex than I got and we fucked at least four times a week.😂 Given not everybody has a libido this high, but I guess there are still enough guys out there who want more sex than the get, thus they would be short term Incels 🤷‍♂️ I agree that prostitution is not a good solution, but if I go online and moan about „muh wamens“ I would consider to go to one at least occasionally.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/20 04:18 PM
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Prostitutes exist? If it’s really just about sex you can always visit them and if you want to spend more money you can also pay for a escort/girlfriend experience. 🤷‍♂️ Also: No. You are not automatically a Incel if you want to have sex and can’t get it right now. Because then every guy is a Incel at least once a month. 🤷‍♂️
/r/ExRedPill11/11/20 03:13 PM
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They are generally the opposite lol They are more the impulsive easy to hurt and flaming heart type. Not the calculating cold hearted type...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:44 AM
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Basically with the same character as now, with that I’m able to go places and I’m independent. And with dating also the same as now: Dating and fucking: the best I can get and want. But more towards what red pillers would call AF, the rest would be just for fun and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:41 AM
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Fully agree. Additionally there is also compatibility. If we can’t laugh together we aren’t a match, no matter how good we would fit together on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:19 AM
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The thing is: This goes in both directions... I think we all have been been on bad dates in which it was obvious that it is chore for the other person or in which it was a chore for us... Which is then another turn off and it all goes to shit... So yes it’s obvious, but not only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:00 AM
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What you describe as „missing out“ is in my opinion just the consequence of actions. You are cheating? You „miss out“ on „the good men/women“, because they won’t be with you. You are not cheating? You „miss out“ on novelty. You you want children? Well you „miss out“ on free lifestyle, because everything changes with kids. You want to build up muscle mass? You will „miss out“ on tasty meals and you have to sacrifice precious time at the gym. You want to eat all day? You are „missing out“ on healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 06:33 PM
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Disclaimer: I know that you have not said that personally, but I see this sentiment quite often. Differing opinions is not „This is for blue pilled losers and they will come back crying to the red pill!“ or „Men who commit and don’t do dread game will be left by their women and they fully deserve it!“ or some shit like that. I also have similar problems with FDS, this women seem to think that their man should be walking ATM instead of a equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 05:48 PM
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It all depends on what you want, obviously. I can only speak for myself so: I want to marry at some point in the future, because I plan to build a house or to buy a flat with future wife. I also want kids. And at this point it doesn’t make a difference if you are married or not, because you have already invested together in the future. In the case of a break up you have to split up the investment anyways, so you can put on the „official“ badge as well. I see value in all those things, because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 04:25 PM
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I think that nobody is arguing that. Dump her/his ass if they act this way as this just shows a shitty character.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 02:39 PM
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I fully agree with you if it ended because she cheated or something like that. But if there was just a conflict or it did not work out for whatever other reasons both of you can also end it like adults. I’m still on good terms with my ex, but we both were able to handle it like adults. If this is not the case for you (or her) for any reason you should indeed block her and her number everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 09:56 AM
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This depends on what you want from life. If you don’t want a wife it’s fine, but I don’t think that a women is emotionally and financially destructive. And divorce is a risk, but for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 07:25 AM
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„He who fears death will never do anything worth of a man who is alive.“ - Seneca. If you don’t try you will never know and you if actually want a wife and kids you have to take the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 07:12 AM
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Technically she can do what she wants, practically I guess she is not that into me and I’ll dump her ass, before we are even together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 07:05 AM
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And how? I can't control what they feel and how they react, I can only do this for myself. So what is your proposal?
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 04:07 PM
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What about society? Those cherry picked responses from Twitter? 😂 The platform where almost nobody is really serious?
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 10:51 AM
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Well dump her ass and #next. Not every women out there is a slut.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/20 10:38 AM
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Answers like this are exactly why I think that he is right. Do you really think that most „BP“ people go around worshipping women? And that everyone of the normies is naive? Most people are aware that they can be cheated on or that they can become cheaters if the circumstances are right. The same most people know that it will probably end bad if they date a slut, but fun non the less. (Sorry, for the rant. I just really hate the „you are either believe in the red pill or you are a naive blue pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:30 AM
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I share your view. Most of the times it’s not even a nuanced intellectualising, but as you said black/white thinking. The former my gain some useful insight, but the later? Not so much. Honestly if you are not here for the entertainment you should leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:17 AM
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What is the same as the term slut? Not gendered? Well, I certainley agree to that (see my comment above) If you mean something else you have to be way more specific. Based on your comment I can only guess what you mean and that is not a base for a discussion. ​ Edit: I love the fact, that you are downvoting me. After all you FDS women are just like the insecure TRP men. So: GOOO QUEEEN!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 12:18 PM
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That can come from both sides, though. There are also girls out there who only go to dates to get a free meal. And I friend of mine got seduced by a girl, who just saw him as challenge. After a week of playing “relationship” with him, she cheated with her ex and boasted about it. So: As so often on PPD I fail to see this as gendered issue. There are many shitty women and there are many shitty men out there, but this doesn’t equate to men=bad or women=bad. And finally this doesn’t equate to casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 10:40 AM
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Consensual sex isn’t the problem. Most of the people I know who fuck a lot around have admitted to me that they sometimes fuck without a condom in casual sex situations. Or that they cheated already on multiple occasions etc. (Still friends with them, but if they get called sluts or fuckbois for that I won’t defend them) So this has given a bad name to excess casual sex for me. But after all it’s just a feeling, no real reasoning or data behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 09:57 AM
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As I said, it’s the bare minimum. If your partner is heavily addicted you might leave him/her, because you don’t want to see this. If your partner can’t accept that you will not do xyz for him/her the relationship might also break apart. And sometimes the feeling of “love” disappears after years without a reason. I still don’t think that we have real disagreement here though. I agree that you can’t control feelings and that love is either there or it isn’t.
/r/ExRedPill07/11/20 09:23 AM
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Predators? Pardon me? If the sex was consensual then they are not predators. They still deserve a bad reputation (similar to sluts), if you ask me, but they are not predatory for fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 09:11 AM
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FDS is the red pill for women lol Simple answers for complex problems, provided to struggling people. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 11:39 AM
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I guess most struggle in one way or another so they are trying to find something which helps them to cope with their problems. And they see the red pill, which provides very simple answers eg.: „go lift!“, „You are actually a winner and you are hold back by society“, „all women cheat eventually!“, etc. And of course the basic self help tips work and if the red pill is correct about that, all the things about women are true as well, right? And now they can feel superior to everybody else, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 11:37 AM
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I think your definition of blue pill is wrong or to put in another way: Most people who are called „blue pill“ by red pill members are not naive and they are also not a victim of „manipulation“. I further have a soft disagreement with „love for the sake of love is bullshit“. In the end love is the only reason for many people to start a relationship and the bare minimum to maintain it. Otherwise I think I have no real disagreement, because it’s hard to disagree if your whole definition of blue pi…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/20 07:55 PM
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This thought never really occurred to me. Actually its more on the contrary, I’m more the guy who asks if a girl is okay, if some dude creeps around her. As long as you respect her, when she pulls away not much can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 06:58 PM
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And it’s also very simpel. It’s just often overlooked, because albeit it’s simple it’s hard. Not everyone can stand up for themselves, especially if you want to do something which is frowned upon in your community.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 09:29 PM
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Well that’s not the point of the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 04:45 PM
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From my (male) perspective: Stopping to care what „a real man“ is, is a good starting point. As the stoics say: „Don’t argue what a good man is, be one.“ For what it takes: Being able to cook, wash and doing all other household chores Being able to face adversity without faltering Being able to be vulnerable in front of your SO and some of your friends Being willing to go for your goals and the willingness to sacrifice short term gain for longtime goals Being able to take responsibilities etc. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:09 PM
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But then it’s not really slut-shaming. In your constellation the betrayal from the best friend and her weighs way more. The same would happen if she fucked a rando. The obvious problem is not the fucking, but that you already expected you two are exclusive, while she doesn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 09:03 AM
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Adaption and progress until I can’t fight the time anymore. Always having the mental strength to keep on working towards my goals, whatever they are at the moment. Goals are always changing anyways, the things which matter to me don’t. As long as I can stay true to myself and as long is I do what I want I’m content.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:02 PM
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Men learn real quick that anything you tell a women, it will be... Only if you are with person you shouldn’t be with. Not every and not the majority of women is like this. But at some point you have to decide: Are willing to sacrifice character for looks or are you willing to sacrifice looks for character. (And even then you need to be able to actually vet for character) I do find it funny women are so bent out of shape over a tactic... If this are women who employ similar „tactics“ I wholeheart…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:26 AM
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Well then to answer it properly: ​ The point of being nice later is that you have to be nice or at least pleasant to be around, if you want to have a good relationship. If you just want to fuck around, you might as well drop it later. Anybody who has self respect will leave you, if you treat him or her like shit. ​ Whatever you are presented as if what the social proof supports. In this case, you are presented as the 'aww what a great pal.' And that's how the group will perceive you. Her impress…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:16 PM
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If she doesn't think you're hot, her friends likely won't either --- birds of a feather. All of your 'social proof' points seem blissfully ignorant of the dynamic. If you are introduced in the role of 'platonic friend' that is the 'social proof.' You are a man who is the 'platonic friend.' If you are friends with a hot women and she tells the others how you such a great person, you definitely have more chances with the others. Not every women has the same taste and in the worst case you get invi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:27 PM
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...what's the remaining incentive for men to treat women nicely, then? The fact that I wanted to be treated the same by them, even if we don't have any romantic, platonic or sexual interests? And that "being nice" doesn't have much to do with getting sex or a relationship? ​ Honestly you sound like the meme: "I've been nice to you! Now I demand you to take my penis!" ​ But if you want to hear the advantages you have, if you treat women (or men for that matter) "nice" (whatever definition you use…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:06 PM
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Many men are lamenting this fact, not reveling in it. They see it as true, but wish it were not. Saying 'women are only good for sex' often means (in the context in which it was written) that they wish women were more empathetic, compassionate, intelligent, engaging, etc... but sadly they aren't. Correct. Some see it as ultimate truth and therefore women who would be on "their level" intelligence and compassionate wise are repulsed by them. Or they don't even bother anymore, because "women are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:18 PM
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Yes, very much so. And I would wager that the ones who get laid, get laid despite the RP/PUA bullshit. 🤷‍♂️
/r/ExRedPill29/10/20 04:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jdjyqx/emotional_support_nets_in_the_manosphere_and_trp/g98m9dp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:33 PM
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See the whole thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jdjyqx/emotional_support_nets_in_the_manosphere_and_trp/g98m9dp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:32 PM
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The last time I checked I did not care that a relationship has risks and the same thing is true for marriage 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:18 PM
1

Thus, most men learn to control these antiquated irrational impulses because we tend to ignore our irrational impulses, in part because, unlike women, men face the consequences of following their irrational impulses pretty much instantly. Check any study on impuls control and you will see that males are more likely to engange in impulsive actions. And the rest is just a rant about how easy it is for women to be boxed out of situation, because men or "society" will help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 07:01 PM
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No. Coercion is the use or threat of violence. This is the defintion: "the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.". You see the "or threats"? There doesn't have to be any violence involved and you can just hint that xyz won't get the promotion if he/she doesn't do z. ​ You can't assume them. That's batshit insane. People have a right to form relationships in any environment. You're actually putting employment shit over basic human shit, it's depraved. I haven't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 06:50 PM
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And that’s exactly what coercion is about and why it’s frowned upon. The threat of consequences or the offering of special treatment is always in the air.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 09:40 PM
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After what I have seen: Attractive women are hated more. The hate they get alone from average or unattractive women is unreal. Many attractive women get called „slutty“, just because they dare to wear clothes which show their ass/tits off. And it doesn’t matter even matter that she never fucked around and was only in longer relationships. She still gets called a hoe or a slut. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 01:32 PM
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Not a women, but if you have to chose between survival of the people you love or their certain death it is not hard to imagine what anybody would chose. As a man I just have luxury that I will not come into this situation, because for men it’s serving, fighting or death. (And if we go by statistics it’s most likely death)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 10:54 AM
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I can certainly second that... I could have never imagined how much difference 20 kg made in how people treat you. And I’m not even speaking about women... Same with good clothes. 🤷‍♂️ Nobody is admitting it, but the difference between a T-Shirt/Jean Combo and a suit is astonishing and again here I’m not even speaking about women or dating.
/r/seduction27/10/20 08:18 AM
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Isn’t that old news? There are even studies about this topic and how attractive people are also perceived as more competent, trustworthy and so on. So yes get your shit together, work out regularly and buy good looking and fitting clothes. Edit: Additionally this sounds like ad for your fillers, but maybe it’s just how you are. After all you are a salesman lmao
/r/seduction27/10/20 06:08 AM
2

In this scenario the professor is female and the student male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 12:44 PM
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I know the term “sexual coercion” only in the context of professional or educational settings. And there it makes sense. It’s not okay to pry on a secretary knowing fully that she can’t evade or say something against you because you are here superior. It’s not okay if the professor has a “private consultation” with her student in which she offers him a better grade if he fucks her. etc. But I honestly have never heard it in the context of normal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 07:29 AM
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Correct. But the poll also doesn’t support the claim that 30% of the women don’t date men, which was made by OP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:38 PM
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The poll still doesn’t say that 30% of women don’t want a man or that they wouldn’t date a man. A female friend of mine identifies as non binary/bi sexual and still exclusively dates men. She only identifies as non binary, because she wants to protest traditional gender roles. Almost every bisexual women I know reasons like this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:55 PM
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Well they need to be attractive to me, so I don’t know how to answer this properly. But maybe it’s more understandable with this two stories: The girl I was with for 4-5 years was the nerdy tomboyish type at first. She always hid her boobs and her ass. Thus I was mocked because „you are basically dating a boy.“ and I got told that she was ugly. ... A year later she was over that phase and she showed off her body and suddenly everyone was jealous, but for me nothing had changed attraction wise. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 02:43 PM
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Honestly? I don’t know. As long as the women is slim and not deformed everything goes. I know that because I’m occasionally attracted to women who aren’t really conveniently attractive, but as long as they are slim and have the right attitude I might be attracted. Tl;dr As long as she is slim and doesn’t have a “much below average” face it can work out. I don’t know what this is on your number scale. I would say a 5/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 09:04 AM
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That is not what the poll says. The poll only states that 30% of the women identify as LGBT and they only asked women under 25. In fact most of the bisexual women I know are still only dating men, they are just open to fuck also around with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 07:12 AM
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1) If we are going by what the have experienced so far and not by their imagination we are again with 75%. 2) This works only for the first part, but it doesn’t work for the question „Can sexual harassment be enjoyable under the right circumstance?“. Here you will have people who use wildly different definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 10:03 PM
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As already pointed out by many 3/4 of women don’t enjoy sexual harassment, regardless of the perceived attractiveness of the perpetrator. Additionally this study doesn’t even have a definition of what sexual harassment is. So we maybe have some women thinking that they should count cat calling as harassment, while others count only things like groping or worse as harassment. And this is badly needed for the question if it can be enjoyable. Shitty science. Edit: added a sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:47 PM
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Well, I have for sure seen this exact claim quite a few times here and that’s exactly the obsession I speak about. For the other points I don’t really see a disagreement here, I only think RP has it the wrong way round: A unstable character and problems to bond lead to more sex partners and not more sex partners lead to a unstable character. That’s a complete different assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:49 PM
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In short: You don’t think that thinking like this is a red pill trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:20 PM
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As far as I’m concerned it doesn’t make you controversial, if you care about the history of your partner. At least as long as you don’t go around and tell people, that high n women are trash. Most people care, but most people don’t obsess over a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 06:19 PM
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There is no unified BP dating advice, but I would suggest: Get physical attractive (no brainer) Get mentally stable and stand your ground, for example by practicing stoicism Don’t put other people on a pedestal Learn to set boundaries in human interactions Learn how to inject yourself into a group of women in a bar (you need to practice this of course) That’s what I would suggest spontaneously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:54 PM
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Well after reading some posts of the red pill I figured that many of them would think it’s “gay” to talk about feelings at all. Even you say that feelings are irritating to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:36 AM
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Sadly not many red pill men or maybe they aren’t really representative. I don’t know I have discussions like this on the regular: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jfbxxj/what_does_ppd_think_of_relationships_between/g9k1oyg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:01 AM
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But boyfriends? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jfbxxj/what_does_ppd_think_of_relationships_between/g9k1oyg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 and I have discussions with rp people like this on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 08:59 AM
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I don’t even see it as marriage fitness test, though. For me it’s more or less the same, especially after you have lived 2-3 years together. Couples in my age group and 10 years older don’t really marry here. It’s more like a party you have 5 years after you bought a house together. That’s also not a single occurrence, it was like this for most weddings I attended. On top of that most people here don’t even get married, because they don’t want to spend the money. (I still guess that this varies …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:54 PM
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It’s literally laid out above? The problem is that a women with history = universally seen as bad and a virgin women = universally good. No nuance and no in between. It’s just not that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:20 PM
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The problem of whom? Because it’s not mine and I will tell them the same thing I tell Red Pillers: „It’s your problem that you are unable to filter for character.“ Studies certainly suggest it, but if you don’t go for ONS you still shouldn’t have a problem. At least in my area and in my circles there are plenty smart and good looking women, ready to commit who seem to search for a relationship. Most of the people here seem to search for a fwb or ONS, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 10:01 PM
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Honestly? I don’t get your point. If you want you can live your LTR like a marriage and that is what most people do. The marriage itself is just a legal contract, which adds a few rights for both parties. The relationship is not really touched by it. If it was shit before it will be shit later and if it was great before it will be great after marriage. And it least in my country you are treated as married after 5 years cohabitation anyways. So whats the big difference in your eyes? Edit: Hey Mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:45 PM
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Thank you. I would have not cared enough to explain another bitter guy the benefits of a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:31 PM
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First situation: You are probably right if you mistrust her in this situation, but it seems like you also did not communicate properly, how much this bugged you. In my opinion it would have been better, if you were upfront. If you want to have a relationship with someone, you have to communicate this and not play the „If you do something I don’t like, I’ll not talk to you“ game. And if you normally respond very fast and she is indeed into, then it would make sense that she is really worried. Hav…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/20 04:18 PM
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Men will give you whatever relationship dynamic you want, if they’re wild about you (how you look, because men don’t love women for their personalities). TRP calls men who act like this “Beta” and normal people call them “doormats”. For most normal men women need to have at least decent looks AND a decent personality at least if we are talking about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:48 PM
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From my POV: The typical adult knows that he is basically buying the affection of a teenager, while the teenager might not be aware of this fact. The adult knows that teenager have lower standards and thus are very impressionable with „very expensive“ gifts like a weekend in Hotel or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 09:29 AM
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Well that is more or less what I said. You can reject anyone for every reason. But if they are not my partner it’s still not my business, what or who other people fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:07 AM
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Feminism has made it taboo to call someone a whore/bitch/slut, but that does by no way mean that you can’t have standards. Anti slut-shaming was and is more about women who get called names, because the had casual sex and not who you want to marry. Also: “Becky? She is only good for fucking, she is already the town bicycle, fucking slut.” vs. “I’m not gonna marry a women, who fucked around too much, because this means we have different values.” Just use your brain before you speak and then it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 05:47 AM
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But this is so much not about n count and so much more about character? And the last sentence is also true. It’s her decision not mine, but then she is eventually nothing for me. Men can still reject women, despite what Incels claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 05:39 AM
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Well, because it’s so much more likely that an adult uses an teenager, than the other way I’ll say “Predatory until proven otherwise.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 07:18 PM
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Got any source on that? As far as I know this is true for all human brains. Except the ones with a developing condition of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 06:27 PM
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Yes and I explicitly stated that reason and I was the one who broke up. What are you going at? I wouldn’t mind honestly, we had wonderful four years and we are still good. If she decides a few years later that she wants kids it’s solely her business. People change you know? You think having children is disgusting? Good for you I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 06:13 PM
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It takes a while to mature and I won’t take me out of it. The progress I made character wise between 20-25 is astonishing and I would be surprised if this is different for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:51 PM
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Well, you obviously have never been in a good relationship. One real life example: In my last relationship my ex paid for the rent in the flat we lived together. At this point she was working and I was still in education. 🤷‍♂️ She drove my to places, because I was unable to drive for while. And when she got hit emotional our with shit at her work I was there for her. I occasionally cooked for her and I bought the food, because she was already paying for the rent. When I started to work I also pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:49 PM
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What if they are in a relationship with an older person just for money and gifts. For what else should they be in a relationship with +25 year olds? And it is manipulation on the side of the adult, because the adult knows what he/she is doing. And the teen doesn’t have the necessary life experience to asses this. And I fucking know how naiv I was at 16. It got better once I turned 18 and I had again a huge boost as I went from 20-25... And if you don’t see this big difference as adult, then ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:16 PM
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And I hope that she wants to settle down eventually, after all I also want children. But hey, different strokes for different folks. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:07 PM
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You can have deep talks about her previous... 🤷‍♂️ at least she understands the value of work by now. She probably has already seen a part of the world and we will have a way better fundament, because we have more experiences we can relate with. What’s wrong with being her teacher Nothing. I just want a relationship with someone who has both feet on the ground and not a immature student. After all I want a relationship as equals, where we support each other. But nothing wrong with it if you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:06 PM
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They are obviously bad, because they have zero to none life experiences and not because they are bad as humans. With a 25 year old I can have deep talks and she already has enough experience to know what she wants, but with a 18 year old? Should I discuss her homework with her or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:30 PM
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Well the adult can just say „no!“. Adults are not as naive and dump as teenagers. It’s highly unlikely that this relationship is controlled by the teenager who doesn’t know shit about life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:17 PM
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It always feels icky and predatory to me. I know how dump I was, when I was 18 and any decently looking lady could have used me if she had played her cards right. And the same definitely applies to female teenager/adult male. Hell I currently date a 20 year old and I’m 25 and even this feels icky sometimes... And I personally think that there is something wrong with the adult who wants to date a 16-18 year old. In my mind: predatory until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:13 PM
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I’m rather exchanging IG @s then phone numbers, but I agree with the sentiment.
/r/seduction21/10/20 04:06 PM
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Read „I tend to act narcissistic as fuck, if I’m not restricting myself carefully“
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 04:02 PM
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My brain in a female body? Not a good idea. I think a enjoy power a bit too much and I don’t really respect men with a weak psyche right know. And I think this would get exponentially worse if I get 2-6 beta orbiters. Sooo... I might be that kind of women who: a) works on her carrier and gets called bossy, because she demands to be heard out in meetings @ work b) still uses her looks to get something out of weak men c) fucks around for fun until she falls in love and settled down for a decent lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 03:20 PM
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I feel like I’m far behind I think most people feel like this at some point, but you can’t change how you have behaved in the past. You can only change how you behave now. I would have done things differently That just means you have grown as Person and as long as you have enjoyed the time you can acknowledge it as part of your life and change it now. Everybody has to start somewhere. I hate the idea of working 9-5 jobs, because I hated school I had the same mindset until I had too much free aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 01:59 PM
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I don’t know about men in general, but for me it’s a clear no. I enjoy the initial „chase“ way too much fun and it would be less fun if she takes all of this away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 11:47 AM
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This makes at least 90% of the male population Incel fluid, because at least once a month they want sex, but can’t get. Likewise there can’t be Incels in places where prostitution is legal, because there you can get sex anytime as long as you can bring cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 07:31 AM
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And plenty said that they look fine + if you actually go outside you see that many dudes who look like them have a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 05:04 AM
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So you are only 19? Welp... The good news is that you still have time to fix yourself... Focus on your education and your body now Do sports regularly (lifting, body weight training/running) Learn for school/university and learn to socialise, put yourself out there no matter how hard it is, because it sucks big time if you have to do this at your job. And pro tip: I only learned later how hard it was for some of “the cool” and “the smart” kids. It always seemed so easy for them, but you never sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 09:00 PM
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My only disagreement is with “strong women are seen as lesbian by most men”. Most strong women in my company (tech consulting) still have most “feminine” attributes, they generally just have this “typical male“ get money mind set, because they grew up poor. They understandable simply did not want to stay there. Strong and feminine is in no way exclusive and they are still wanted by many men. The rest: Full agree. Stop complaining and start to work on yourself.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/20 08:35 PM
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Well life isn’t fair anyways, but you are here on reddit so I guess you are at least somewhat privileged. I guess you are also not disabled or you have other things which hinder you to live a average life. So if you want attention then: 1) Get out and get some friends. 2) Get good at your hobby/job and get recognition for that Women are most likely not your answer, because you seem to be in this victim mindest. If you would suddenly get attention you would be jealous of the guy who has it a bit …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 07:42 PM
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a) Not really a point, because it doesn’t influence you if a random girl gets more attention. (Maybe you get jealous, but this is a “you” problem) b) It’s still way better to have any positive attention than none, especially if you are lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 04:06 PM
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TIL: 80% of the male population is at least once a month a Incel, because they are horny and don’t have someone to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:50 PM
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They can only get the best of what they are offered And? They can still have high standards for relationships. If you are not desperate you can still tell her to fuck off, because “she is not your type” Source: I’m a average guy and I’m rather alone, than with a women to whom I don’t have attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:45 PM
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A easy fix for your last point: Get some friends and go out with them or play video games with them if you don’t want to go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:39 PM
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Full agree. I’m rather a average man, than a average women. I can go around the train station at night unbothered for most of the time, but the girls I know get always some form of unwanted attention from weirdos. They can’t really tell them to piss off, but I just look them dead in the eyes and they go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:37 PM
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Who has ever spoken about insulting? 😂 Never done that shit. Check my post history if you don’t believe me. You know it’s just like watching a cringe compilation, with which you can argue and discuss for fun. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 02:11 PM
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If I look out into the world don’t see that. Both are mixed, women now just have the possibility to “be strong” on their own. Some are, some aren’t, same as with men.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/20 12:47 PM
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Body count is not really important to me, for me it’s more about reasons why they have n count xyz. Did she just fuck, because she had the chance and was bored? (Not really concerned about that if it happened occasionally, while she was single. We all know that this happens, when you are young) Did she just go out to have sex with rando? Was this in her experimentation phase or was she also like this a year ago. (Big red flag, because then we have way different values) Does she have n count, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 12:41 PM
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You raise a question I was raising on Purple Pill Debate before. “Are close male bondings even allowed in the headspace of red pillers? Do they see a value in talking about their feelings to another man?” If I search through various field reports it always seems like there is this paranoia that you can’t trust anyone but yourself and that every guy who speaks about feelings is gaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/20 11:14 AM
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So you are basically saying that women have become strong and not that men have become weak.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/20 11:12 AM
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I honestly think that this idea that male bonding is gay comes from the traditional society and traditional masculinity (our fathers generation) I was only able to bond with friends who were at least liberal to a degree. The rest would have just called you gay if you committed that you also have feelings.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/20 11:10 AM
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I’m here for the comedy and toxicity red pillers and incels radiate. 😂 But whatever!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 10:43 AM
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It depends for me heavily, if they have built it together and both took the risk without additional contracts then there is no other way to do it. It’s quite impossible in praxis to be “fair” then If they smart and had separate accounting it should be split according to that. (My opinion)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 05:57 AM
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It’s honestly not about the n count, it’s more that I wouldn’t be able to trust a hooker/sugar babe. If her young boy toy can live with that? Good for them. Let them have a relationship. But for me it’s the same as with corrupt people, you know for sure that their loyalty will have a price. This is no problem on it’s own, but it is a problem if I should view someone as true equal. Q.E.D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 05:41 AM
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Okay but splitting of the assets is always there, in my country a marriage is even treated as a “income cooperation”. But the assets as far as I know are split evenly as long as the women wasn’t at home because of shared kids. If she has “lost income” due to staying at home for kids you’ll have to pay. Tl;dr as long as there are no kids or you don’t build/buy a house together you are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:30 PM
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Does that make a difference in your country? In mine it’s except for a few extra rights (getting medical info of your spouse and stuff like that) basically the same. So it doesn’t really matter that much. Additionally you will be treated like a married couple after 6(?) years cohabitation anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:06 PM
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And their success would even be shittier, if you just put them into Chad bodies in their adult lifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:53 PM
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Okay, but even then I’m disagreeing. Character traits like high neurosis, autism and asperger are determined by genetics to a big part (~50% heritability for the big five). And with this traits you don’t have a easy time in dating, regardless of looks. So if you just exchange the body there will still be big problems in their dating life. I guess they won’t be Incels anymore, but they will have absolutely shitty results for their base material.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:50 PM
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Another question on the side: Aren’t you a red piller? And aren’t you red pillers always complaining that many marriages are failing? Well, guess what this is the answer continued work and compromises on both sides. That happened in the old times based on necessity. If you were not able to do that, both of you had a miserable time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:43 PM
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Why would you want to keep a loveless relationship alive? I don’t want to, it’s about keeping the love after the first year or the first few months. And if you want to do that both have to invest some work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:39 PM
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You literally said „Incels would have unlimited confidence if they were placed in a Chad body.“ that doesn’t leave any room for people in Chad bodies who have self worth and confidence issues. If you would have used most or some, then my argument would be a strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:35 PM
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Being attractive for sure gives you a edge in confidence. It still doesn’t help much if you are then mobbed, because asshole #1 sees you as threat. Or if the girls in your class have decided to mob you, because you have bigger boobs than them and they fear you as competition. Edit: Confidence can also come from social standing or being smart in school, being the leader of class whatever. You don’t need looks to be confident and you are not immune to confidence issues, just because you have looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:05 PM
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It doesn’t work that way. By this logic there wouldn’t be one attractive person with self worth issues and low confidence. And yet many attractive women and guys struggle with their self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:03 PM
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You are too normal for this place. If you are not here for the comedy you should leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:50 PM
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Four, love is a thing Yes love runs eventually out, but if both you are smart and committed you can keep a part of the flame. Keeping a relationship alive is a choice and nothing else, especially for couples who got together, because of romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:45 PM
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Incels and unlimited confidence? Doubt. How many of them are team leads or managers? Confident people with drive tend to excel in this roles? I would guess next to none. They are just ugly 8 of the 10 pictures of self proclaimed Incels I have seen were just average. If they had that much confidence and if they would know how to behave in social situations, they would find at least some women to date. Edit: And confidence does not come from looks. A friend of mine is 1,86m, has broad shoulders, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:23 PM
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And don’t know if you are aware, but Twitter is also great for stuff like this! Just follow shoeOnHead and enjoy the show!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:36 PM
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I call cope and I stand by my words. Even with perfect chad looks incels would struggle to find a meaningful LTR. Many of them seem to be on the Asperger spectrum and lack therefore awareness of social cues and things in this area.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:34 PM
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Sounds like a cope. With this explanation you don’t have to work on yourself 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:09 PM
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I would guess it’s about power, validation and the thrill of the chase. And once commitment is secured all that thrill is gone and you need new source. You often see this behaviour x100 in cluster B women. And at least for them it’s mostly for validation and to feed their fragile egos. Funnily enough TRP techniques like negging work best with cluster B women as they tend to do anything to get the validation back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:08 PM
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Is the whole „pump and dump“ mentality not based on the same foundation? First you enjoy the chase and the build up of pure sexual desire until you release it with sex and at this point you don’t care anymore and she can only come over for sex. If I read field reports of TRP or PUA posts, then it seems like the exact same behaviour. For women it just tends to be about commitment and for men it tends to about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:48 PM
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As said before insecurity or high sensation seeking. Some people just enjoy the chase and the initial dopamine rush of getting together and when that is over it stops to be interesting. Other than the red pillers I don’t think that it’s a women trait. It’s more of a human trait. PUAs and red pillers show also signs of this behaviour. The whole pump and dump mindset is basically the same. And what I get out of this: Don’t fall for it, wether you are a man or a women. It can be a sign of BPD and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:41 PM
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You say he doesn’t know and I would keep it that way... I honestly would be disgusted, because you did it for money. I can understand why someone would fuck, because he/she was horny, wanted to experiment and so on, but for money? Fuck no. Even if I could live with it, I probably wouldn’t view you the same as before
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:02 PM
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Pick Up artists have a about 2-3% higher success quote than dudes without „game“. Therefore I feel pity 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:56 PM
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There is also the just here for entertainment crowd. 🤷‍♂️ Bored because of Covid-19 and I don’t want to watch a movie? Well then let’s dunk on Incels and paranoid Red Pillers!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:33 PM
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Source: This picture. Most of them are average looking. If they wouldn’t have mental problems, they wouldn’t have a problem in finding a partner. Additionally: Many have admitted that they have Autism or Asperger, which is also not great for socialising.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:14 PM
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I seriously hope for the women you meet and for yourself, that you are LARPing....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:33 AM
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Men who talk about their feelings are feminine and gay. Has this insult worked anywhere outside of HS? Anyway Cringe af. lol Once you start showing your feelings, you leave yourself wide open for mind fuckery. Get entrusted friends with whom you can be vulnerable, without getting looked down upon and you don't have to fear "mind fuckery". They will help you out and if it's a true friendship you will help them out. Hell, they might even provide you with another perspective and they can give you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:32 AM
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You do you. Have fun with your dysfunctional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:17 AM
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I have chosen the purple flair, because I think that 90% of TRP is garbage and that only the sidebar is really useful. On the contrary I think that many aspects are hurtful to you and your post is a good example for this. You obviously don't see relationships as teamwork, you see it like a transaction. And you fear that Chad could snatch your women away, if you ever let your guard down. In another post another TRPer claimed that you can't speak about feelings as men not even with your close frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:16 AM
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Anyway, by now it's clear that I think it's loser style to use TRP techniques, even if the are out of character. And thinking that a women is your slave also doesn't look like you are well adjusted. But let's have some fun: Is it worth it for you to always play pretend with your gf, who should be there for you? Is it fun to never be able to relax, because otherwise you have to fear that she will immediately be with the Alpha you fear so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:07 AM
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I’m naturally* funny, extroverted, charismatic, a bit stoic and confident. I’m fine and don’t need tricks and tactics to be with a women. ;-) *actually I have developed most of this traits intentionally, but close enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:57 AM
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Alternativ: Don’t put on a mask in the first place and show the real you. Then you avoid most incompatible women and you don’t lose her, because you are yourself again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:45 AM
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TIL: Western Europe is socialist, finally! *Soviet Hymne plays in background*
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:27 AM
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If you vilify the rich for getting rich by their hardwork and smartness Sure. Hard work and smartness. And taxes are just for goverment handouts and not to have functioning schools or roads to use your cars on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:24 AM
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And the funny thing? Thanks to their personality many of them still wouldn't be able have a LTR with a decent women. Even if they had all of this things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:22 AM
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What? You mean people who say: "At least you could smack some sense into them back then if they acted up.", might not have a personality which is appealing to women? ​ *surprised pickachu*
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:12 AM
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That's exactly the situation I was imagine. -> Makes move -> Recieves a friendly rejection, but is not able to decipher it as one -> Makes another move -> Recieves a friendly rejection, but is not able to decipher it as one ... Until the women of interest doesn't want to take it anymore and makes an official complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:15 AM
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Yeah I don't know MGTOW very well, haven't had the chance to look into it that much, but I have a good feeling about those guys. They seem much more down to earth than most redpillers I've come across. Yes, most of their ideology is nothing for me, but I don't care as long as they are friendly and good guys in all other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:12 AM
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I think so too, but I'm not a real red piller so I wanted to inquiry a few view points of them. So far I've one "Real men (TM) don't speak about feelings" and two "Sure that is what real friends are for!" answers. This two answers were from MGTOWS, though and I think they have whole different mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:36 AM
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Exactly! So it’s a long term solution for the rest! Nobody cares about self loathing people who shot their chances themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:54 AM
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They describe themselves as such? I made a post here with a Video from a Incel Vlogger and I stated „If Incels have a problem, while they look like this, they have a mental problem and not a look problem.“ And the answers were: * He ugly though! * He isn’t a Incel, because a Incel wouldn’t show himself * LARPer! etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:47 AM
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Hahaha, this picture proves my point again: Incels have a mental problem, not a problem with their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:44 AM
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If you are a genuine human being then you will give her negative emotions from time to time any way. (Same is true for the other way round) So: Bullshit
/r/ExRedPill19/10/20 06:30 AM
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It actually is a long term solution: More men stop to play the game —> The average man is worth more in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:12 AM
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I guess the first one knows how to flirt/when to stop and the second one asked in a inappropriate way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:08 AM
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As for virtue: Yes you normally do it for yourself, but you also benefit the most from it. Take stoicism as example: If you practice it you learn to be calmer, more collected and also more content with your life. With this attitude it's then in return easier to introduce yourself to other people and to be a leader. This can create a positive feedback loop, which helps you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:51 PM
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Let’s put it that way: You have 4 women to choose from for a night: A) 1/10, a very good character B) 3/10, good character and similar interests C) 8/10, medium character D) 9/10, but toxic as fuck Who do you choose? A) and B)? Or the ladies from C and D Now do it again, but you can only choose between A) and D) My Point: Character doesn’t matter if you are not even considered because of your looks. As for Meek and others in this category: They are exceptions and they are not representive for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:38 PM
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But that’s good. After lurking the red pill for a while I have expected very different answers. But hey, you are MGTOW so that is whole different beast I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:15 PM
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About the last paragraph: I was asking if speaking about feelings does align with Red Pill/MGTOW teachings, but you have more or less answered this above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:10 PM
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That’s not what I wrote... Character does matter and goes long ways, but you need to have the bare minimum requirements in looks. Your looks are needed to even get a foot in the door, only then your character matters. And by character I don’t mean „being nice“, because nice is again the bare minimum to be even considered. I mean confidence, assertiveness, being interesting, being able to handle things, being able to hold meaningful conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:49 PM
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Do you think that your view is common in the MGTOW/TRP scene or are you more of a outlier? Because the only other comment was basically „Men don’t talk about feelings, because nobody cares!“
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:26 PM
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Well I care for the feelings of my close friend and they about mine, but I already wrote my stance on this in the OP. For what this can achieve: You can vent in privacy (= less risk that the negative feelings "bleed" out or that you do something dump) You are assured that another person has still your back Your friend can give you another perspective, which you might need at the moment If your close friends know that you are down, they will maybe arrange some things for you to get you distracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:38 PM
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And because they are strong and don’t need support. They never need support and emotions are only for women anyways! And that men have a way higher suicide rate is just because of feminism 😤😤😤
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:19 PM
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I wouldn't call it worshiping to want a partner, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:15 PM
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It’s still their problem if they stay in relationships like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 03:46 PM
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Then it’s about shape and children and not about age
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:53 PM
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More fertile? Yes Tighter? No. The tightness comes from muscles, that's why it feels tighter when she orgasms and less tight when she is relaxed or has just climaxed. Long story short: You should revisit biology 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:29 PM
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Do you have examples so that we can talk about the same things?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:44 PM
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Some is not enough. I’m sometimes going for toxic women and I know that I either hurt them or that they will hurt me, buuuut it’s just so much fun. There is a global pandemic and I’m still thinking about travelling to another country in the next few days. Other examples? I work in SW engineering and I know many very intelligent guys, they studied maths or information security. But guess what, they still get occasionally into bar fights and they are still throwing glasses around if they are pisse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:45 PM
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Man I had fun on twitter, when it was more toxic than now. Here it is basically the same. I'm fine and I enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:33 PM
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If the middle is "looks matter, but unless you are a person with no selfcontrol you still won't fuck just because of looks", then yes I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:25 PM
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Not my expierence. With a selected amount of male friends I can really open up about my darker sides judge free in a way I couldn't with most women. Having said that: This is mostly because there is still a small spark of sexual attraction from the womens or my side with my female friends. Thus I may hurt them or they hurt me in this conversations. That doesn't exist with male friends as there is no attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:51 AM
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Depends on their personality and world view. If a good girl ends up in LTR with a good guy, then both can be happy as long as it works out. There a various reason why it can fail, but that is just life. Would this be the right thing for a "slut"? No, but a the life of "slut" wouldn't bring much joy to a good girl. Just choose what you want from life and go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:45 AM
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Yes, I have also noticed this pattern after a week or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:37 AM
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Fuck, I genuinely laughed at this. How dare you to be content! How dare you to get a wive! Cope! Cope!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:34 AM
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Keep up the good work!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:10 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:33 AM
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My comment was a direct answer to: Most people make these observations, but most people also take women at their words. The point is that her excuses are lies. Women do not like "nice guys" And this comment has only two points: Women don't like nice guys Women lie about reasons why they reject guy xyz Both of this points are adressed so what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:55 AM
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Yes, because that’s the tactful thing to do... I also won’t say to a fat women, that I don’t want to date her because she is too fat. I’ll say that she isn’t my type or something along those lines. This are so called white lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:45 AM
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First what is your definition of a „nice guy“? And where do you see the lies? Because the comic above is about a women who wants to be with a good looking man, though. She rejected the guys, because they aren’t attractive to her and she is willing to sacrifice a good character for looks. If you are hot and have good looks and you have a good character she also won’t reject you, for most women it will even be a big plus. (For some it will be minus, because they get off if they are abused, but thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:35 AM
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And that is exactly the reason why some women like it. Different strokes for differnt folks I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:19 AM
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Yes! Feels better and you still have the thrill that another person is going on the knees, especially if enjoys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:10 AM
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I argue that it's more about the thrill, the taboo, the extra validation and the added intimacy, because she won't do it for anyone. Having said that: There is still a huge mental thrill in "degrading" or being degraded if you are into that kind of stuff. Eg,: I did not like it, but my gf liked it, because she wanted to be treated like that. She wanted to be submassive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:07 AM
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Loneliness is loneliness and being with friends while you feel lonely is also heart crushing as fuck? The rest is just „Why isn’t there a women who wants me? :(„
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 09:03 AM
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And I know guys who stay in relationship with good looking girls, even though they treat everyone like shit. If you are attractive you have more leeway, what a great observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:50 AM
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Incel fanfics again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:36 AM
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What’s wrong with that? If it’s like this she at least won’t be a prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:11 AM
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All the things mentioned still need practice and I have my doubts that dude above could pull it off. Heck, he would even have sever problems if he had actual model looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:53 PM
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What is a core principle from TRP? Please be specific. Otherwise I can just argue that most of the positive aspects are also part of Stoicism (Lifting/sports, cherish the moment, don't complain, take responibilty) and therefore nobody needs TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:50 PM
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To me he looks average, additionally I have a similar face structure and still no problems to get dates or to get some fun with women I meet at Bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:47 PM
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I don't try to disprove black pill or lookism. I stated that if he is representable for Incels, then Incels have psychological problems and not physological ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:45 PM
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So he isn't a Incel in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:44 PM
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Okay, then it's a simple misunderstanding. I was just thinking about r/TheRedPill and not about philosophies or people who are loosely connected to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:29 PM
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A fair assessment is that early/teenage experiences create anxiety and low confidence in incels, which then form their adult personalities. This guy might be seem attractive enough now, but at some point he was solidly untouchable to the girls in his school, and that belief solidified in his brain. That is also true. A kind guy I personally know is a prime example of this, he looks objectively good (1,86m, good face, showing muscels, good fashion style) and he still struggles to even get a date.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:13 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 04:04 PM
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Nah, I specifically said that they should seek professional help. They are better suited to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:56 PM
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I'm 1,85m and kinda fit so yes... I imagine that it's harder if you are shorter... Funny thing, though if it happens I'm okay with it, if not it's just casual sex. Sex in a relationship is just so much better...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:55 PM
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Hard agree on everything, except that: That being said, this guy won’t be getting chicks to come over on tinder or taking chicks home from the bar. Even this can work if you have the right personality, altough in a much lower frequency than with Model looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 03:03 PM
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That's called being a human and there is no problem to feel this way. You just have to find a way to change the thing which bothers you. Maybe you just need to re evaluate your friendships/relationship? Maybe something is missing? Maybe it just isn't right for you at the moment. All of this is no problem, it's just a sign that you need to change some things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:56 PM
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I don't have a problem with the actual self improvment stuff. I have a problem with the PUA attitude, I have a problem with the "women will always cheat!" attitude you often see. I disagree with "women like you only for what you provide" assumption you see so often. But the actual self improvment stuff is good. The only thing is: You don't need the red pill for the self improvment posts or to approach somebody. All of this stuff is covered in any self improvment philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:41 PM
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Yes, he should get professional help to overcome his trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:08 PM
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I just described it as awful cycle and that he really would benefit from professional help. So yeayh. And as I stated somewhere above: I don't think that my face looks this much better and I still have next to no problems. A probably big difference is just that I can socialize. I can make a women laugh, lead conversations, make myself the center of the party and I that I don't really care if she isn't into me as long as I had fun. And every other night there is a women who is into me, then I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:07 PM
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But maybe this pill is even harder to swallow then the "black pill", because this means that there is something wrong with their character. And it's even harder to change your character, than to change your looks. To change you have to recognise that there is something wrong with you and then you have to put in the work to change yourself. You have to learn to socialise, you have to learn how to be funny, you maybe have to get some hobbies you can share. You have to unlearn the behaviour you see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:53 PM
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That kinda proves my point. He seems in this video like a genuinely good guy, but he has next to zero confidence. He also states that he hates how he looks like and and and. And his mental state in this video is even after he found someone who seems to genuinely likes him and his body. Do you want to spend your time with somebody who is constantly like "I look so bad :( How do you even do you even desire me? How do you even like me? :(" I personally don't want to do that, because it drags me dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:36 PM
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I would laugh my ass of if this is true. So link?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:05 PM
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Good question, but I honestly don't know. This video was just suggested to me on YT.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:58 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jcu5k5/if_this_is_how_incles_look_on_average_then_they/g93hpih/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:43 PM
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The thing you have to understand: There isn't a "share of the girls" or a "fair share of girls". ​ that you need to be more than just slightly above average now. Nope. Give me the body of the Incel "Just James" and I still won't have a problem with getting women for dates and relationships. Source: I don't look better than him
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:39 PM
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You can even feel lonely if you are in relationship or with friends, feeling lonely doesn't have anything to do with being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:34 PM
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Male suicide is several times higher than women’s This can be attributed to pressure and the lack of social security nets for men. ​ males are three times more likely to suffer from autism and several other indicators and you can find for yourself Yes, men have more variance in IQ. There are more geniuse men than genius women and there are more dumb men than dum men. ​ oh, you said STEM? Women are doing better then men in school and even closing the gap in the most male dominated fields like mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:29 PM
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Real Talk: I don't look much better than him, but I still don't have any problems at getting women at Bars or somewhere else. If you look like this then your character, your confidence or something along those lines is your problem and not your facial structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:20 PM
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But just for the fun: I’m tall and my face is apparently attractive. I still don’t think that’s all there is about masculinity. Before I started to actually be confident, assertive and take over responsibility I also had many problems in life and dating. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:14 PM
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Now I’m curious how you want to translate this into dating or living in a society or how you see femininity in there. I mean give me a week and I’ll ruin your reputation if you are extremely aggressive or violent against people I like. It doesn’t matter how much more pure muscles you have if you just get excluded. At least in European cultures you still have a big emphasis on the group and tightly knit social hierarchies. If you are cancelled there: Good luck (Forget that paragraph if you are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:47 AM
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I disagree with you, the balding Janitor can depending on how he caries himself also be considered as masculine. Maybe not necessarily as sexual attractive or as sex symbol, but for sure as masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:34 AM
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Do they? Even the asian ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 11:16 AM
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Yes, but every Pill is so painful reductive so that is what I expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:56 AM
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I’m speaking about female models 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:49 AM
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No seriously, by this definition many models are also masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:30 AM
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That's quite interessting to me, I was more expecting something along "real men(tm) work outside and never talk about their feelings!" or something along those lines. Because that is what I would expect from Redpillers or from most people in the Manosphere. But hey, maybe you are not part of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:28 AM
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That's quite interessting to me, I was more expecting something along "real men(tm) work outside and never talk about their feelings!" or something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:27 AM
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Spotted the Incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:26 AM
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That's the easy task, but what is the etiquette? Which one should I fuck first and do I need to confess my love before I fuck her best friend? I don't now dude. Now she is angry! Help me!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 10:25 AM
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Wow, Incels and TRPers have seen a unflattering image of average looking the first time. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:38 AM
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Another thing feminism does for me! Splendid!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:30 AM
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How do you know she doesn’t have autism or what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:29 AM
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My ex said she liked my big nose, because this means that a man is masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:25 AM
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Got the big dick, now I just have to find a women with hot friends!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:07 AM
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So much this and the bar to be a chad is also so fucking low, if you haven’t been fucked completely by your genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:55 AM
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Na bro, I’m a young guy and I still think it’s disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:48 AM
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I have given this advice quite often. Especially if the women is treating him shitty all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:33 AM
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So much cope. This women just don’t want you and trust me you don’t want them for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:26 AM
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So you have already been fucked? Well then get good. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:08 AM
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Men have had less and less contact with their children... Is this so? Well my parents did all the traditional stuff, but I have rarely seen him, because he needed to get the money in and he was working all the week. (No blame on him) With a working partner, he could have definitely spent more time with me. Do explain how feminism has led to men... I never said that it has led, I said it gave the possibility. It’s still you decision if you take it. Eg.: Paid Maternity leave. I can now share it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:47 AM
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I don’t know about the laws in Canada, but here she would need a stay at home mum situation, without the mum part, to get money. So if she is working part time and she is doing the housework THEN you might need to pay if she sues you. Or she also invested work in house you built together etc. But then it’s shared anyway and she should have the rights to get something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:08 AM
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What logic goes to die? In my last relationship we shared the rent 50/50. 🤷‍♂️ It’s not my problem or a logic problem if you can’t communicate that you want a relationship as equals. If you think so 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:42 PM
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I don’t get you? Holes like in asshole? Or holes like “I think all women are just a set of holes?” If point 1: Yes I can be a asshole If point 2: I’m a dude lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:34 PM
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Well then why do want to take it from others? Life is just like your favourite videogame: Get good or get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:04 PM
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That’s a thing I’m actually worrying about, especially in the west. But other then MGTOW, most Red pillers and Incels I’ll do my part. 🤷‍♂️ Still: Japan has already too many people for the land they have and spain is also heavily populated, if the lose some people they won’t have a problem in the long term. Just look up how many people are there per square meter and compare it to the US, Germany or Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:50 PM
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Be careful what you wish for... You might also lose your freedom to choose :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:44 PM
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Spoken by someone who is for freedom of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:32 PM
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What is objective ans why does it matter? If she isn’t attracted then it’s fair game. You also don’t have to be with a women if you aren’t attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:28 PM
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A rodeo queen who doesn't want to ride you properly. :'D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:50 PM
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The thing is: Everything I have expierienced points in the other direction. Because if you looked at it from the other side, then she loses power if she doesn't pay. btw. one of the reasons why a friend of mine paid for everything. If things go south and there aren't any children she has to find a flat and she won't get anything from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:49 PM
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thrill seeking Point is: If you are a thrill seeker yourself you have a hard time not getting bored with "normal" people, yet alone a wife. Remember: You plan to be with her for quite a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:46 PM
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Have you ever actually fucked a virgin? It's not that good and valuable, trust me. I was the first everything for my gf and the first few times were shit. She doesn't know how blow, you don't how to lick. She doesn't want it rough and you don't last long.... etc. Half a year later though? Fucking god like. (pun intended) So for me: I'll pick the 25 year old who just broke and has plenty of practice anytime over the inexpierenced virgin who can't even blow anytime. Kinda ironic though, that I'm c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:44 PM
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hahaha, okay this wouldn't be worth it. :'D If I get this, I might as well just jerk off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:38 PM
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I have scotch, but cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:37 PM
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It's purge week so I might as well post some cringe to fish for more cringe!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:30 PM
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Well they could have gone for a women who earns the same as them, but many of them even have problems with shy girls. The wouldn't have this problem if they would just have chosen the carriere women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:28 PM
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But I agree about r/MensLib it's a sad place and I doubt, that many of them have sex or a gf. They are just the lib flavour of unsuccesful dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:24 PM
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It's purge week, but no. In my social circle rent is split between men and women. Often not evenly, because the man still makes more, but the women often pays a third of the rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:22 PM
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Exactly my point and if you are already working then it's not a problem to chose a cheap decent restaurant for a date
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:20 PM
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Good one! Still wtf? Are people jerking off to this? Are these the so called Incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:17 PM
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And? If you are not a one than you can still go for a two
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:14 PM
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You right! I actually wanted to do this CMV before, but the mods said that it does not fit this subs rules! ​ BUT TITTIES!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:14 PM
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Nah, you still decide who you want. You can even pull the "She is jut not my type" thing off. Who will judge you? The hot girl who told you that "you are not her type" a year before? Just say that "big women" are not your type and you are fine. Edit: -5? I guess this triggered many MGTOWs 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:13 PM
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Well then, you might just want to go for some ugly women, right? I know personally many sweet women, who are "not my type", but they have a good character. Just go for them and you are settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:10 PM
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Well it's not only sex. If I'm now with a women I she will pay half the rent, because she is a slaying queen who earns her own money. So it still sounds like a good deal to me, even logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:09 PM
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Wait I thought being a Incel is about sex? It's literally in the name?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:06 PM
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Then why is it hated by so many men in the manosphere? Are they all ugos? I see all these points and I say yes, sounds good! You go girl! Edit: fucking mobile
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:01 PM
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Good girl! I like stuff like that, but it seems like I’m only really willing to do it with women I don’t respect at the moment. 🤷‍♂️ Might be just be some weird power fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 08:00 PM
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Why don't you just go to escorts? Many Instagram models are "secretly" escorts and you can fuck them if you have the money. Given that you have a good job this is something you can easily do every two or three months for a weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:57 PM
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Do you jerk of to hentai?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 07:49 PM
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I haven’t read too much PUA stuff, but most of the „techniques“ seem to work. Or to phrase it differently: I have already used some of them, before I have read anything about them. Anyway: I still think they are more persuasion skills, you can use many of them also in the business world. Eg.: Push/Pull —> Create tension so they are not sure that they have you to get a better price.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 06:29 AM
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People today play this fucked up "who can care the least and the two of us still end up attracted" game. Reason #1055 why I am happy I'm not in that game. You know what, it's not about caring, it's about this https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j8r3ju/dont_give_in_too_fast_is_a_genuinely_good_advice/g8d8t5o?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 If you compliment them or "chase too hard" they see you as low value. You can still do that as long as you don't come off as needy o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 07:16 PM
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That’s not the worst motivation and I guess there are still many women out there who look for such a arrangement. But props to you for admitting this. Funnily enough I just tried to post a CMV in which I argue why liberal feminism made the dating world for every man who is slightly above average better. (Splitting bills, financial independence for both, mostly love marriages, etc.) Let’s see if it gets approved, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:24 PM
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That makes sense I guess, my mindset is pretty much egalitarian so I don’t really care about the rest as long my needs are met. Growing up on a farm in which everyone has to work the whole day does that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:14 PM
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This really depends, if you are smart you can as well use the connection you get this way to build a company or land a banger job. Also: You can leave at any time and you don’t need to get married. The pros just outweigh the cons for me. Edit: Just like a male gold digger and you are with a more or less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:06 PM
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I don’t speak of playing the second fiddle and after all you can just leave her if you are fed up. And thanks to the laws she will even owe you settlement money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:48 PM
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Nah, alone the recognition of fucking a star would be worth it and she absolutely isn’t my type. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 01:28 PM
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Except that it doesn’t happen? Or that there are so many different groups and Milieus that there are hundreds and thousands of „best males“ depending on who and in which point of life you ask. So it all falls back to: „Women want what they consider best“, hence its a human trait and not insightful at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 11:36 AM
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Nah, being overly available to her without setting boundaries gets you stuck in the friendzone And being overly available, while not making clear that you have romantic interests and that you will not be here for her if she doesn’t want you in a romantic way is the bad part. That’s also why it is so easy to escape the friendzone. Just make clear that you have a dick and you want more, while you are still reserved and not overly available. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 09:09 AM
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You and the TRPers have it the wrong way round. If you filter for people who want a monogamous relationships and without a past as cheater you will automatically end up with low-n people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:25 AM
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But that’s the wrong way round. If you filter women out based on personality and who is really wanting a monogamous relationship, then you will generally end up with low n count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:23 AM
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Agreed, but that is not what this post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 05:50 AM
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But I know this struggle with work colleagues... It's a shame that so many brilliant guys are putting themselves down and then get walked over as consequence. They know how to do shit and they do it well, but they are too paranoid/unsure and so others use their work to brag. But here I can at least mention that they helped here and there and that this would have not been possible without their help. In the context of relationships this sadly not really possible. (Or I just haven't found a proper…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 08:39 PM
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To me this does sound more like a self acceptance problem and not so much about masculinity. Maybe you see it different, but I don't see much traditional women things which keep you from getting a partner. Self hatred is just off putting in itself, I also wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who is always down and doubting herself. I of course don't know what makes him unmasculine, but cooking, drinking cocktails, wearing cologne and talking about feelings can also be attractive if…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 08:34 PM
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There are guys in my friend zone who I would never tell this to, but they’re like emotional/romantic sluts. wewh. that's also hard to admit... But if you tell them, they will just end up with the next girl, who sees them like this. So what should you do? ​ This is a good thing to talk about, the importance of boundaries and value assessment in social interactions. I agree 100% with that. Funnily enough a buch of red pillers called me "Beta" for that. How funny is this? They are always talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:49 PM
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male friends and male peers claim that having sex ASAP and being honest about your feelings is the best way to go I can't blame them, because it sounds like paradise. If I wouldn't have expierenced that first hand I most likely would have given you a similar answer (except for the sex) Now it even makes sense to me why so many men are rejected, if they give it all to soon. After all we still have our dumb monkey brain. ​ Basically men (especially young men) give self serving advice, because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:51 PM
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That’s funny, because I got quite mixed reactions to this. Many men called this bullshit and that only women react like this. (I guess they have never been in this situation?) One of them even said that I‘m just used to toxic sexuality and that it is caused by a trauma or something. (I don’t know about this one. Could be true or not. I certainly don’t feel that way) And at least two women who thanked me personally, because nobody believes them, that men also act this way. I just want to add on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:25 PM
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Most of this people admitted that they don’t want a relationship in the first place. Most of them are just unable to get sex another way 🤷‍♂️ Through this lens it’s just sad. Lying and hurting others, because they are not attractive enough for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 03:52 PM
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I guess it’s more about being open in conversations and to allow the women to see some of your feelings and vulnerabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:51 AM
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„You are wrong she is just not attractive and not interesting...“ No. I’m literally „hers“ if even just see picture of her. „My opinion...“ That could very well be, after all I lived through enough trauma. On the other side I don’t really follow the assumption that relationships need to have a power a struggle. I still follow the assumption that relationships require hard work, but that’s more due to comprises and the required communication. The thing is a Tele diagnosis of somebody you don’t kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:26 AM
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It don’t think that the underlying thought („A women will always leave you) is correct...
/r/ExRedPill12/10/20 06:19 AM
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„If it was true this debate....“ I have seen this debate only online. Around me it’s not really debated. „Weak emasculated men want it, not women“ Not really. Women also value that they can keep their independence and they also want to be respected and „doing their part“ in a relationship is one way of doing it. Eg.: I wanted to pay for dinner on two occasions for two different women. One said „No we split!“ and the other one said „Okay, but I will pay for the drinks!“ I said to both that this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:49 AM
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I’m a guy and I made a whole post, about how a few of my friends and I felt the same... Do you still think that this is a women „problem“? What are your counterpoints? What are your arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 09:00 PM
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If one side is not reasonable then you can still break up. You lose nothing if you try. Plus: I personally chose the women I date by attraction and character. If they aren't reasonable I stay single. I have seen first hand what happens if you end up with someone who is not compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 08:51 PM
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Depends, but that's not the point. Point is that she will be receptive to anything positive in this direction, especially if there is a attractive collegue or a attractive ex friend. Her higher standard will be just matched by her options if she looks decent and there you go....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 08:14 PM
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Yes and no. As long as it's openly communicated I don't see much of a problem. Just lay the cards on the table and if one of the sides doesn't agree you can still end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 08:01 PM
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Yes, but she also has more possible shoulders to cry on and also more possible "beds" to sleep in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 07:55 PM
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Or you fix the underlying issues. Maybe? Eg: *You have become a fat fuck and she doesn’t see you as desirable anymore and you know work out —> Problem fixed *Works with both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:55 PM
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Not properly, but if you haven’t had sex with your partner for a year while you slept in the same beed you will most likely take what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 06:52 PM
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No the solution is that the people involved solve the root problems. u/marathon_man23 asked why they finally have sex again, but with another person. And that’s the answer. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 05:51 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but the new generation is into splitting bills and keeping financial freedom. The women keeps her money and the man keeps his money. She buys him expensive gifts and he does the same for her. etc. If anything a women is „low value“ if she doesn’t want to be in relationship based on that premise. Like you don’t want to shoulder a part of the relationship? That’s fine, but why should I then shoulder everything for you if you don’t even want to put anything on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 05:16 PM
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Some stressors only related to the current partner and the relationship. This sort of things can be fixed in the short term with "fresh love", but that's only a subset of those stressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 03:38 PM
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Because your comment implies that life stressors cause someone to stop desiring to have sex, yet, many of the same people who stop having sex with their spouse go on to have sex with other ppl. Stressors can have many faces and some only appear in combination with your spouse? Like maybe one of the partners doesn't feel loved anymore? Maybe a comment induced some form of self doubt and it isn't properly communicated. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 03:26 PM
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One is being with a golddigger and the other is being with a woman who views as beta bucks. Or you can be with a women who is your age and who geniunely respects you now ​ The latter meaning the woman would have ignored when she was young to go sleep with a more attractive chad type. So you recognise that you weren't attractive before and you still resent her for not dating the unattractive you from a years ago? Why? What about basing your relationships on the present and not on the past? This w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 02:19 PM
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I‘m not stating that this is about me, I just wanted to bring a real life example about women slut shaming each other. I’m actually quite aware that it is just insecurity on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 02:17 PM
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So young cluster B girls are your sweet spot? :'D I can imagine, but I'm avoiding them at all costs, they are just not suited for a good relationship. Too unstable and unpredictable for me. Still, if you just want to fuck many of them are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 02:06 PM
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She won't be around long enough for me to find out. I'll be the exciting guy she had sex with one weekend and never called her back. Too boring for me, if I want that expierence I'll just go to a bar and fuck a random travelling girl. ​ I've seen her in person, she's hit the wall I'll pass. Maybe a few years ago when she was in college. I honestly don't seem to have a problem with that. I almost had thing with a collegue who is five years older than me. I just don't really care if she is still d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:56 PM
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No it wouldn't solve a single problem for me. I still want a partner, I don't want a program which I could program however I like it. I want the real deal. Somebody who critizes me occasionally and therefore helps me to grow and somebody with whom I can reach goals together. ​ Additionally, what do you think the dating world would look like with access to such bots? Less prostitution and we might get rid of the Incels ​ Would you purchase one? Maybe as commodity. If you want to try out something…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:44 PM
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hahaha, yes way better. :D For me you could also add Emma Watson, Jennifer Lawrence and Rose Leslie to that list, but Kim Kardashian is just a hard no for me. ​ I'd take her over everyone. Really? What about their character? You don't know anything about her? Okay, she looks great, but what else does she offer? Does she like adventures? Is she a nice company? Can she act rational? Can she offer emotional support if needed? etc. Looks are only half of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:36 PM
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If everything is set, then yes, but if you bearly know each other then it's bad to shower the other person with affection and give out everything "for free". I thought of scenarios like: Person X meets person Y for a few times and they exchange numbers and both are interessted. Now Person X starts to shower Person Y in compliments/affection and person Y hasn't even really established that he/she wants in fact more. That's what I think is off putting on both sides. TRP calls this "Don't put her o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:29 PM
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This "contract" also contains what you own the other party and not only what you'll get. (And hopefully both parties are aware of this) As I see it it's just another layer of promised commitment. Both of them are still free to leave at anytime, especially if a part of the contract is broken. For some people this just adds more consequences to the lists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 01:01 PM
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She has little power (because she doesn't work and make money) whereas the man has more power. A power difference gives rise to an opportunity for physical and sexual abuse (power corrupts and absolutely power absolutely corrupts). What? It isn't even viable in most places that only one of the partner works? We also don't have 1970 anymore, in modern relationships bills are shared accordingly. (That's btw one reason I like feminism) ​ In my opinion, women should not have children at all. I am st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 12:09 PM
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What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 11:56 AM
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hm. I suppose that both can happen. While I was in higher education I had a "slutty" but attractive classmate and I hung out with her, because she was chill and had funny stories. She also wasn't easy to offend so it was nice to hang with her in breaks. Now the same time I had I a gf and my gf hated her, because she was a slut? The slutshaming or the hatred, because she was slut was astonishing. Like girl... I'm just chilling with her, I wouldn't leave you for a women who cheated on all her boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 09:18 AM
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And they are attractive and approachable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 07:23 AM
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Kim Kardashian? You have a weird taste... Go for Adriana Lima...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/20 07:18 AM
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Plain boredom and you if you are already asking like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:46 PM
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That’s spot on, but that’s also a thing I would never ever admit to a women in my real life. It’s just too primitive, crude and selfish sounding for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 10:05 PM
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Well... The love was in a „crush“ way and I think that you are not understand Instagram... In the chat function on Instagram you can like messages and the chats were there. And she was liking literally every message from me and was answering everything in seconds. Additionally she responded to almost every dumb story, just so she can respond. At least it feels like this. I wasn’t really able to point out why this was a turn off, but some here have pointed out that this reeks of desperation. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:46 PM
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This answer describes it best for me at the moment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j8r3ju/dont_give_in_too_fast_is_a_genuinely_good_advice/g8d8t5o/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:45 PM
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I can imagine, they already appear slimy to me and I’m a man. Funnily enough some of them try to guilt trip women later, because they were there and they gifted something expensive and what not ... but that’s another topic. I’m just glad that I had this experience now, because it will help me to understand people better. (I mean I just could have believed some of my friends, but that would have been to easy for me.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:40 PM
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Hahaha, I’m already awaiting the Incel hate. But mind you, I’m also thinking the same is true for women. If you play your cards like this as man you also come off as desperate. She will also lose a huge part of the attraction to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:29 PM
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That it’s actually one of the reasons I posted this. It sounds like paradise, but it actually makes you less attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:18 PM
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I fell in love with her in the crush sense. Like we met a few times casually and I just feel this irresistible urge to be with her. I also wouldn’t be fine with a asexual relationship... The actual „issue“ is that she is there for me on a whim. She answers every text in seconds, she gives every message a heart on Instagram, she also answers almost every insta story. And while this sounds like paradise it’s actually quite off putting. Some comments here mentioned that it reeks of desperation and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:16 PM
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I think this with in combination with the other comment about desperation nails it the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:01 PM
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Well I know a few men who had this feeling before and also was like „Wtf dude? That is like a dream, there is something wrong with you.“. But I just experienced this for the first time and feels weird. It feels like there is a hook or something to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 08:59 PM
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I’m not talking about sex in the moment. In this situation we have only met a three times casually and we aren’t even officially dating and yet she answers every message in seconds, additionally she answers every story instagram story with hearts, stuff like that. I can’t even put the finger down on what it is, that is off putting about this, but it certainly is for me. In short: No official dating, but she is there for me on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 08:49 PM
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Thank you! Once again a good post 🙏 And one who doesn’t focus on blaming women and whacky evopsych. Just genuine good advice.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/20 04:49 PM
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Funnily enough this is the thing I mostly agree about with the TRP. Like yes, this is genuinely good advice. You might still not get that 20 year old hottie if you are already in your 30s, but you can date decent women. But there are also so many bad posts and so many insecure guys who project that I can't really recommend this to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 04:31 PM
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But if correctly typing takes so long, then the big five are still superior. As far as I know psychologist use this method for studies that are repeatable and they don’t have a few months to asses them... But party time! Try to type me! (If already taken the 16personalies one a few times for one and I always switch between two types)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 08:08 AM
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Ah, so I have found the right pages, but discard them....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 10:12 PM
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Do you have something to read on this? Wikipedia wasn’t really helpful or I have just found the wrong websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:43 PM
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I disagree only in one point: It's not necessarily love alone. In my view it's also pragmatism and mutual respect, loyality and work. See, if you are in a relationship since one or two years and everything was great and then a really attractive girl comes who wants to fuck you, would you do it? I bet most wouldn't even if their impulses say so. You would just be destroying too much, all the respect would be gone and you would even be shunned in your social circle, because you aren't not loyal. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:20 PM
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They absolutely can, though? At least in western europe your friends are not gonna harass you if you haven't slept with a girl or if you are not trying to be with a girl (or man for that matter) This is especially true once you started to work and to earn your own money. Like why would people care if you fuck or if you don't fuck? Even being gay has more stigma and the stigma of being gay isn't barely prevelant in most of the educated circles. I said it before and I'll say it again: Incels and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 05:17 PM
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I honestly have never browsed MGTOW content, so it could very well be. Is their narrative also "...women aren't worth anything!" or "...only 10% of all women are actually dateable!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:38 PM
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I can’t really disagree with that. Then maybe it’s more of Incel or nice guy™️analogy? High entitlement, while providing barley the standard Lashing out, if rejected. Probably vulnerable narcissists Everyone else should change, so that I get what I want! (especially the other gender!) A very high need for validation This would check out I think 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:44 PM
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If you would switch the genders of the persons, then FDS people would switch to TRP and TRPers to FDS. Both ideologies offer relative good advice on the surface, but they want to ultimately degrade the other gender. And both are of course filled with bitter people, who have forgotten how they can enjoy themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:29 PM
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Everything I’ve seen so far points into another direction. Eg.: * Getting nice and goos fitting clothes = women and men treat me better Getting fitter = women and men treat me better Wearing Cologne = Women are more compelled to come closer and get outright wet if there was a connection before
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 01:30 PM
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They can always ask for support as long as they don’t try to guilt trip other people into fucking them. Because that’s the main issue other people have with them. „No sane women wants to fuck me, especially not the women I find hot! Therefore women should be forced to get into a marriage with man to whom they aren’t attracted 😡😡😡😤😤“ (obviously exaggerating, but you get the point) “Every man who is not able to get a women should receive a state paid hooker!” (Not exaggerating, I’ve read that on r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:02 PM
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Could they reach the life satisfaction without coercing a women to fuck a Incel, to whom she is most likely not attracted? Or can Incels just reach their satisfaction by forcing others to do what they don’t like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 11:54 AM
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„Women don’t care about men“, I don’t even know what I should answer to this. Like no? There are enough women who care about men? Maybe you have to tone down on your physical type, but then you can find enough women with a good character?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:41 AM
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I was honestly just pissed at the TRPers who say that all women treat men badly and they are just good for sex, while they are not willing to vet and leave them. Like you see women as universally bad, but you are not even willing to filter them by anything than physical attractiveness and then you wonder that you only get gold diggers and women with shitty attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:31 AM
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Okay, let me rephrase it: If you are complaining that your SO treats you badly, while you are not willing to leave him/her, then you have nobody to blame but you. In the end you can only change your reaction and not your SO. This of course doesn’t resolve your SO from anything, but from a practical POV you have to realise that you can change something. While your SO just has the power, because you have given it up. Edit: him/her, as it’s not gender specific
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:27 AM
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And? If you are rather with a women who treats you badly, than single, then you deserve everything you’ll get. Like, get some self respect, maybe that’s even the reason she treats you bad in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:00 AM
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Nah, I have a good Portfolio and I additionally use it to stay in contact with people I met while I was travelling.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:14 AM
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I disagree. If you want a stable LTR you have to vet for character, it doesn’t matter if you are a man or women. Having said that, all of my guy friends who want a LTR are also searching for a good character. The optics are just the qualification to be even considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 06:59 AM
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Have you seen my other post? It seems like many men also don’t vet for character because women are only good for sex So it’s not a men/women, but a ungendered thing. The thing all of the TRPers don’t seem to get is that „attractiveness“ is the pure baseline. If the women is dumb then she chooses based on that alone and if she is intelligent she will chose based on both factors. Tl;dr Everybody has a bad time if he or she doesn’t vet for character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 06:08 AM
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They are old enough to know what they are doing. And at least around here I don’t see many women getting „pumped and dumped“. Some want and have casual sex, but they don’t want to commit anyways so its working for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 05:58 AM
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Doubt [X] I won't date a women who is fat and I don't have a problem if one isn't attracted to me for the very same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:25 PM
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On a smaller scale, on an individual level, is it unreasonable for women to date in their league instead of fucking out of it? Because they complain about men not committing (Chads) and using them for sex while rejecting men who are willing to commit. If she can get better ones than they are in here league? We are all adults here and we know the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:18 PM
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What? Aren't you currently free to do anything you want? What holds you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:14 PM
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I grew up on the countryside and moved to a city, so if I'm with conservatives I focus on the good sides of the countryside, while I mention some good sides of a living in a bigger city. For feminisits I do the same, but I focus on the good things about the city life, while I talk about a few good things of the country side. From this point on it's the same with both, both will tell you about their view and you can use their input to expand to other topics. I personally like to focus on farm lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:32 PM
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Any woman who calls herself a "career woman" is a poor choice in mate. Her temperament will be more like a man than a woman. Deep down women want to be led and protected, these are not traits of "career women". She will constantly clash with you. She is more likely to understand that I value my work and that I have to do overhours some times and she will take pride and paying for her own bills. Plus we share some sort of connection, because we already have similar expierences. So it's actually l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:19 PM
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I really only know how to socialise and to lead a conversation. It’s like sit me in a room with a conversative and I find something to bond over and sit me in a room with a feminist and I can do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:57 PM
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Again... It’s not easy... I still speak with a shit ton of girls and in a group of 10 women, there is maybe one who would be interested. And that’s already a group of girls who is out to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:54 PM
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No it doesn't. I spent the last year to learn how I can speak with women/men/groups in bars. It's far from easy to learn this. Especially because I was in relationship from 18-22 and I never really needed it. It actually took me two years to be really able to get some girls. And attractive? Most of the red pillers would call me straight ugly, because I weigh a bit too much and I have a kind of crooked theeth. ​ Well that’s not worked for me, especially now since bars aren’t really open here in U…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:32 PM
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Just so you are aware: I'm a dude and I agree with /u/rosephase :) The majority of the normal population has no problem with a loving relationship, it's mostly emotional stunted dudes. In fact I created this post to get more understanding why the feel how the feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:23 PM
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Ask them! A bunch of them hates me already, because apperently I was taking things out of context and arguing in bad faith. But to be fair, some of them admitted that they only want to fuck and one even wrote that he is only in his relationship because of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:07 PM
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Idk if I want to have sex I'll just hit a bar with travelers. There are many decent looking women who seem to search for a hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:32 PM
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I want an inexperienced young woman. Too much experience makes a woman jaded and unfeminine. For men, at least for me it's the opposite. Women are always attracted to the fact that I have knowledge and experience as a man to explain or show them new things. That's the thing I disagree with, there are plenty of joyful women out there, you just need to "catch" them. They are mostly women who come fresh out of a long LTR. They already know how to play the game, they are sexual expierenced and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:31 PM
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Then why are you still with her? Sounds like you are wasting your time then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:11 PM
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That's also one thing I noticed around this thread, a portion here seems to dislike the women they are with or they meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:48 PM
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If you have no problem in securing short term sex, then you also should have no problem in securing a quality LTR, where you have all the benefits described above, no? To me it seems like you want to have a non-jaded gf, while simultaneously acting like you are jaded yourself. The point I heavily agree is that it’s a bad idea to get together with someone jaded or someone who isn’t enthusiastic about you, though. That’s why I nexted many attractive women, like no I don’t need your negativity in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:46 PM
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Regarding this topic I view it like it’s described in this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j6zftg/a_relationship_isnt_only_about_sex_or_maybe_a/g83pkxt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 But let’s play pretend. If you are not a Chad (= you bring to less to the table to be attractive), then what? Rather have a sexless life without women? Rather turn to prostitutes? This is basically „She liked x more than me and did more for him, while he has…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:10 PM
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Take the attention away from a narcissistic person and they will go lengths to get it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:32 PM
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Can be, but at least I’m not nitpicking, while we are discussing a whole other issue. 🤷‍♂️ Who did exactly know what I tried to so either way, you just wanted to attack a different thing for whatever reason. This is on one level with correcting grammar, because you did not find a proper answer to the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:38 PM
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Look into „as a type of comparison“ :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:08 PM
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What? The points which make them worth it are already described above? That’s the point of them. And if you feel like your relationship/marriage is shit, then you can always leave them. It’s your choice. „...as a lot of men are rejecting the system already...“ What? Where? Around me everybody is working and everybody who doesn’t want to work is rejected by others. As for the Incel terrorists: If there are really more terrorist attacks from them in the future, then they will be even more moved to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:34 AM
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That’s exactly what a metaphor is. lol ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor ) Okay, then rephrase both things: If you vet for similar interests you won’t have this problem. I can see this happen to men who only or almost only vet for physical attractiveness, without checking for compatibility. Okay, then but good luck in finding a women who is worth it and who simultaneously agrees to have less freedom than her partner. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 11:06 AM
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You can rape her by ignoring her „no“ and violating consent. If she is married to you or not it’s not part of the question, because she is not your property. lol But yes I think that marriage is kinda pointless, except for the tax reductions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 10:50 AM
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Yes it seems like this to me too, especially after reading a few of the comments. It also seems like many guys here have a specific idea of masculinity, they want to uphold. Like I don’t have another explanation for the following comments: „A women can’t give me anything I don’t already have, BECAUSE I‘M A STRONK MAN AND I DONT NEED EMOTIONAL SUPPORT!“ „What you communicated openly what you want/need in relationship and what your dealbreakers are? Betamove!“ „Women are only good for sex, a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 09:59 AM
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It’s still natural if you have a healthy relationship? Like if you don’t have sex, then why do you even think you are in a relationship? You are right about your last sentence. Before that a man could have just raped his wife, so no dead bedroom if he did not want to. But I prefer the „feminist way“ very much....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 09:37 AM
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That’s how you work out what’s okay in a relationship. It’s like the same with friendships? I told my friends multiple times if they have crossed a line and they told me. It’s basic communication and you need that a lot for lasting relationships. You don’t like that I do x? Cool, we can compromise on that. I don’t like that you do x? I guess you have to compromise on that. We are all adults and we can choose who and how we spend our time - no controlling involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:45 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:08 AM
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To use your metaphor: Both of you can walk, but you’ll have a buddy to drag you if hurt your foot. (This is vice versa) Well then find a women who shares similar interests or do your vacation alone? (You have to allow her the same though) Seems like a communication problem to me. „I don’t know what this means...“ If a women doesn’t bring anything else to the table she is worthless for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:07 AM
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I never advocated for that or said that, I just assumed that sex is a natural part of relationship and that I don’t have to extra state it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:58 AM
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Okay, I thought you were using „controlling“ as in „my ex was sooo controlling“ and not as „I agreed to this set of rules and since then the relationship worked better“ „Nothing hinges on...“ This guys were adults who have chosen to hit on a girl in relationship. It’s not her responsibility to say „No, I don’t want your gifts.“, they should just have stopped. Still no controlling happend, I more or less stated that the relationship is no longer bearable for me in this state and that we need to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:56 AM
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The first thing you should know is that I’m guy and I have additionally lived through this... So dump her if it comes to this. Sexual attraction isn’t negotiable. I agree with the rest, but I don’t see how it disagrees with my OP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:31 AM
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Yes it certainly depends on what you want and this „might“ color my glasses. And if the end goal is sex for you, then a relationship is nothing for you. I’m still challenging the view that men only get sex and a okayish company out of relationships, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:19 AM
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Dude... My first relationship lasted 5 years and I’m just 24... Currently I’m close to get together with a girl I met in a Hostel... I have more than enough experience with women.... Edit: Nice Ninja edit 👍🌝
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:58 AM
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„Women choose not provide anything, but sex...“ I made a entire post why I disagree on this exact point. I can also add some anecdotal evidence from my side, as my ex stayed with while she was earning way more money ... but we broke up once I really started to earn money. In the end I have „extracted“ money from her, because she was paying often when we were going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:56 AM
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You can’t outfuck a problem in the relationship, trust me I tried it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:46 AM
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No I get it now I think. For you and many other guys here women are outlets for sex, additionally they can’t offer anything aside from okay company and sex. Therefore you view relationships as you do. A legit way of viewing things, although not mine, because I value other things too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:45 AM
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„I’m more than capable...“ It’s not about what you are capable of, it’s about what you get out of a relationship. She can also put it in half the rent or in a nice vacation with you, depending on what you two agree of. „Yes if a women just offers...“ No what? Can a women offer more than her body? We don’t have to discuss, that any women who just has a nice body is not worth anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:41 AM
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Correct, but went with „has to“, because you have to in a relationship, if you want a working relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:29 AM
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What? Do you really think that the OP disagrees with that? But to make it explicit: You are right a romantic relationship has sex in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:27 AM
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And my point is that this statement is blatantly for the reasons stated in the OP. And as I already stated many times: I want all of this stuff from a relationship too, otherwise I would just hook up with girls from a Bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:25 AM
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But he doesn’t have to pay a higher price? The parts of the „higher price“ or „the strings attached“ are just part of „being in a relationship“. As for the rest: As I said, maybe a relationship isn’t something for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:23 AM
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Guys who hoped that this is a way to get her as gf, while she was with me? IDK
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:11 AM
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1) I have not controlled her, I just have put up some rules for the relationship. We have then communicated what we expect from the other person. 2) I literally don’t care how she treats guys who go for her, while she is in a relationship. Also it’s not about sex, while this whole set up was toxic at first, it developed into a healthy relationship later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 06:09 AM
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No attraction I guess? I don’t know the whole relationship is broken as fuck and I personally don’t even know why they are still together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:59 AM
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Again: If you see her only as body for sex then that’s all you will get, but this ignores all the stuff you get additionally from a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:11 PM
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We certainly can agree on that, though. Some guys are just unlucky or unable to set up hard boundaries, especially with women who casually try to gaslight. One of my exes is a prime example of this. At first she tried to treat me like shit, until I set up some hard boundaries. After that she did even more for me then I was asking for, but she still treated her normal male friends like shit. They always bought her expensive gifts, more expensive than anything I gifted her, but she always rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:10 PM
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Well, this are three things you won’t get without a relationship then. But this isn’t scratching any of the question stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:41 PM
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Needs citation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:37 PM
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„Todays women...“ In theory yes, but even the hardcore feminist types I personally know treat their partner well. Many of them seem to even become a sort of house wive. This is especially true for shelterd ones who picked up feminism as a Accessoire. „unpacking...“ It’s a part, but certainly not all. A relationship can break because of many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:34 PM
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Then I’m either the exception or I don’t have the male sexuality. Sex is for me a necessary and important part of the relationship, but the other things sell me on it. In the end sex is just sex and if I have „the horny“ I can either jack of or hit some bars to meet women who want to have fun. A healthy relationship on the other hand? There I have a women to share memories, a roommate, somebody who takes care of me, a buddy to travel with and somebody who I can simultaneously fuck. And the strin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:30 PM
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Outside of radfem twitter? Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:14 PM
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Yes, but this does prove that he isn’t asexual. He wants to fuck women, just not his gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:13 PM
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Oh, I’m without mercy and I also critique women for this behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:12 PM
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Well, it's your choice. You don't have to stay with any women, especially if she doesn't like you enough to put any effort into the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:07 PM
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He isn't. In the last years he almost cheated on her three times and that were just the occasions I was with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:34 PM
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This list is also true for women? Emotional support: If she doesn’t do that, then we aren’t together and she is just a fuck buddy Communication: It’s a two way street. She will initiate sometimes and I will initiate sometimes Financial support: We are both carrying the same weight. I’m not gonna pay for her shit, if she doesn’t pay for my shit Social life: I expect the same from her, so again a two way street Unpleasant mood cycles: Given that I’m not always in the best mood she’ll also have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:23 PM
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I fail to see this as gendered thing. One of my best friends is still with his gf, even though he admitted to me more than one time that he doesn’t want to fuck her anymore. So many people here are so often „Women do this and this!“, while the answer is „humans do this“.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:02 PM
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I like arrogant statements like this one. „You will see the true nature of w o m e n once you older kid!“ If you want to be taken seriously bring some arguments. Or describe why you see the world how you see it now. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:55 PM
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Congrats! You are one of the few people here with a healthy understanding of relationships!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:16 PM
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But that wouldn’t be a free use fantasy then, wouldn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 03:20 PM
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Nah bro. Nobody touches my gf or wife. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:56 PM
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You have the dictionary definition and that what most self proclaimed feminists are arguing for. Depending on what you are talking about, you’ll either use the first or the second definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:55 AM
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She gains access to his „protection“, status and resources. If you want to bring it down to the primal level, why don’t you go all the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:34 PM
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...and he with his commitment is the prize of her or the best she can get and vice versa. It’s cooperation and not dehumanisation on both sides. (A healthy relationship assumed)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:31 PM
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given the number of n count posts we see every day, it's impossible to forget in this sub that a woman's value is closely tied, if not totally dependent, on how many men she has been with and how many kids she has given him. that's what she gives up. I agree on the children part, because I'm still young and I want my own kids. The thing is, that if I'm a father my worth for other quality women will also be dimished heavily. I fail again to see it as gendered thing. If you have children and you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:16 PM
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Uff. just googled her... If she would have been porn with a penis, she would be a Incel and rightfully so. She doesn’t look like she has a lot of experience with sex... Anyway I guess she is hated by every sex positive feminist....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:32 PM
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Because women experience this, I think we, when young and innocent, assume that men simply return the same feeling. We feel happy to receive male affection because we believe it means the same thing - that they care about us as our own beings and want us to be happy even at their own expense. But with time women become more bitter because we slowly learn otherwise. Girl, who hurt you? There are many men out there who feel the same about women. They are the men which are called "Betas" by TRPers.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 08:08 PM
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I don’t think you can call this feminism, this is straight anti male/anti sex. (At least it comes of like that.) But let’s see who she answers to my response, because maybe we can have a civil discussion without getting triggered too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:55 PM
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Thank you for your long answer so let's do this. So I'll also try to answer properly. I personally feel that the author just put everything positive or remotly positive in the "women" section and everything negative in the "man" section. ​ Female sexuality is positive, it is a desire to uplift and please. When women are attracted to someone they want to make him happy. Having sex with men is, socially, giving up a lot from herself, almost exclusively for the benefit of another. It is adding some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:35 PM
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Yes it seems so... And there I blame the current lifestyle of the population. People don’t get prettier from sitting around and from eating too much....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:19 PM
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Nah, it’s enough to be socially stunted, if your looks are additionally shitty then of course no sane women would fuck with you. The decent and social adept guys still get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:10 PM
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By now Incel means way more than „This guy doesn’t have sex at the moment“. It’s not about those 30%, it might be about a small percentage of the 30%...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:53 PM
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Define „male sexuality“ and please elaborate how it’s different from „female sexuality“? And please be specific on what exactly should be taken as insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:51 PM
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Some will discard Islam for sure, because some if them will be gay and some of them will be educated women and it’s a bad deal for them to be muslim. The questions are: 1) How many will just call themselves Muslim without living it? 2) How many will practice a few things? 3) How many will follow everything? 4) How many are actually Islamists? 5) How many will leave Islam? 6) Which „version“ of Islam are they living? (Alevit, Shiit, Sunnit, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:40 PM
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I guess it kinda depends? I’m just 25 so depending on your age it might be completely different for you? Here are Parties, work and university the things to meet girls. Edit: And of course your social circle. X knows Z and and X knows that Y wants to meet Z, so both are invited.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:08 AM
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I struggle to be caring and empathic enough for one person... I couldn’t do that with more than one, there is too much chance of „ganging up“ on one partner and heavy manipulation/gaslight....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:30 AM
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So it’s your parents responsibility that your girlfriends have hurt you? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:20 AM
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I want to be with a adventurous hot yuppie women, who is into travelling and who wants to have kids in the next 5 years. As for the rest: I like it how it currently is, there is no sense in changing anything. After all I prefer personal freedom for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:17 AM
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I don’t get it. Marriage is just a change of the legal status anyways and all the things above can happen to women in LTRs too? Couples who live together and are monogamous already have all the problems and advantages of a marriage. And yes I hope that they are looking for „Mr. Right“!(and guys for „Mrs. Right) After all this decision will determine much of your life’s happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:45 AM
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Nobody is outbreeding anyone, because Islam a cultural and idelogical thing. And what I’m saying is that it never happend before + it’s common that the next generation of „them“ is more liberal. Some of them will discard Islam or whatever you fear entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:13 AM
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Just saying that „they will outbreed us“ without any evidence that this happend anywhere in the last 200 years is even a less secure predictor... Again I’m not from the US, but this is anyway a cultural thing so if you get them on board then you will have „your americans again“. (Except it’s about skin color again, but then it’s clearly racism 🤷‍♂️)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:49 PM
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It happend in my country with guestworkers and the overall trend in all countries is that the fertility rate goes down. Source: Look up any statistic you want on this topic Liberal doesn’t mean weak or easily „overriden“. In fact I can see that feminism could turn against Islam very easily. In the end it’s just like (radical) Christianity another religion which hinders progress. I’m not informed about US and immigration, but I could easily see why someone wouldn’t want to exchange his former ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:35 PM
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That’s a nice revenge fantasy you have there, but it’s entirely false. The fertility rate drops suddenly if people are in a richer country, this is also true for muslims. What’s additionally happening is that the new generations tend to be way more liberal than the parents. So if you don’t fuck up the Integration like they did in Paris you won’t have much of problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:20 PM
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I don’t live in the US therefore I don’t really get how many of the republicans really respect him or how many just vote him because they see him as the lesser evil. But in Europe even the rightwingers laugh about him. As for the US I would guess that the majority of the educated people don’t respect him, regardless of what they vote. But as I said I don’t live in the US and therefore I don’t have first hand impressions. Edit: And to end it here. Yes you are fine as long as you have enough money…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:12 PM
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Gates, Jobs and even Bezos are respected for things they created and not for the money. Trump is kinda different and I don’t see much respect for him. In fact he would be attacked in many neighbourhoods. And of course you can buy compliance to a degree, but this is not genuine respect. Everyone will drop you if your money eventually runs out, especially your gold digger wife
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 08:44 PM
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Additionally you seem to think that you are able to buy respect, but you are not. A man with money is just a man with money, what do you think happens if you run out of it? What do you think happens if you fuck of the wrong person and you don't have your security with you? If you don't use your money wisely most people will look down on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:34 PM
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Well of course it depends on what you want, but if you would have that for a few years I'll gurantee you that you'll get bored with it. Believe me I had regular sex with my ex gf for 4 years and everytime she wasn't really into it, it was just boring. When she and I were both into it, it was fun. And now think: How will a women see sex with you, if you can only offer money? The same is true for people who you spend time with regardless of gender. If they aren't into it and don't like you as pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:28 PM
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With this you'll never get genuine good connections to women. In fact you'll only attract the gold digger type and the are not really worth it. And with all the money in the world you'll never be able to buy satisfaction, much less respect from other men. You'll only be seen as source of money. Now you can be content with that, but who wants that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 06:12 PM
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Even though it’s a low hanging fruit: They have value to them. The have money to spend, they have drugs and they can offer parties and a exciting life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 12:13 PM
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Uff. I’ve definitely seen girls pressuring other girls to date dude xyz, because he is cool. But yes social proof still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:47 AM
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Yes, those dudes would be better off if they just leveraged the friendship to get other women of the circle. 🤷‍♂️ Social proof and all that jazz. In this situation the „not 10/10“ might even get pressured to date this dude, because he has a nice personality or whatever. Additionally he would have learned how to socialise better, he would be invited to better parties etc. But I can’t blame them, I was once one of this guys. I blew every chance, but I’m glad that learned it later. Now I’m the „coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:35 AM
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Exactly! And if they wouldn’t go after said women, they could befriend them and better their social standing with this friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:17 AM
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It’s possible to be with a cluster B girl, she’ll think of you like this for as long as she feels like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:06 AM
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In the reverse guys (or at least I) can also feel if a girl is genuine or toxic, but I’ll still fuck the toxic one if she looks good. And I see the same behaviour in my friends. 🤷‍♂️ I wouldn’t wonder if it’s the same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 06:44 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:01 PM
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The funny thing is that they already can go to prostitutes if it it's only about sex. So I don't think that sex robots or tool xyz will change anything. They will still lust after a relationship, especially a happy one because sex is just a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:59 PM
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I think that he wants to say, that european men would love it if more women or women in general are stay at home mums forever. That's at least how I get it. This is for the majority still horrible wrong, but apparently he knows better because he works in a industry who substitutes women who don't want to stay at home? IDK which industry he is speaking about I guess prostitution or sugar dating, but it seems like confirmation bias to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:12 PM
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Anecdote: I dated my last gf, when I was still in higher eduction and she was already working, she was paying for me, when we were out. And I'm by no means a Chad. If you ask me then sex is only expensiv, if you can only bring money to the table. Bring intimicy, a shared goal, adventure or whatever you into also in the equation and you can be with many self sustaining women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:08 PM
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European here and no, just no. If you want a educated man then the guy expects that she works at least half time and that is, when there are children. If there aren't any children then the guy will ask here if she is dumb or something or why she "doesn't want" to work. It's a bit different in the more rural areas, but even there it's expected that the women works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 07:04 PM
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Ugly is repulsive or very unpleasant to look at. I have this with women who are fat or have too much acne. Something along this lines. As for Tinder: If you are a average guy then it's a losing game. I don't have problems to pull pretty girls in Bars, but I don't really get matches on Tinder. (The last two years I had about 6) Do yourself a favour and head for a Bar, a concert or a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 05:27 PM
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If we are speaking about the ideology which you partly see then yes, most probably. Given that I spend a reasonable amount of time with that person and that we actually talk. Criteria would be: bitterness deragatory comments about women, especially if they have a higher rank than the person Cultural Pessimism ("Everything was better in the old days!") blantant antifeminism stunted social behaviour, especially in interactions with women (I would expect that many of them are on the autism spectrum…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:39 PM
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I personally view it more as membership fee, but it's they are forced
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:10 PM
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Because they have on a primal level more to offer. In a society which values the freedom of choice, they’ll get automatically more benefits. Eg.: Good looking people are generally perceived as more trustworthy, so they have to work less hard to gain the trust of others. Taller men earn on average more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:44 PM
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Okay, if you even see taxes as forced than I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:24 PM
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? By now „Incel“ is more a political term and far away from it’s original meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:20 PM
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Even in the islamic world you will be hard pressed to find a guy who says „I deserve sex with women, by the virtue of being a man“. In Islam you’ll also have to find a women first. (Granted there are still enough forced marriages) Aside from that I was clearly speaking about people I’ve met.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:19 PM
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I was speaking about men in general in this instance? As for Incels it entirely depends on why they are rejected. Are you fat? Get a decent body. Do you have anxiety? Get psychology help. Are you boring? Get some hobbies? etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:15 PM
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Which things are forced upon you by western democracies?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:12 PM
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Hey, if you want to „balance things out“ you are basically saying that men have the right to get sex with a women. I have yet to meet someone outside of the Incel sphere with as big demands as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:06 PM
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The difference is that nobody owns anyone intimacy, while a company is obliged to not discriminate based on gender & race. Relationships are a whole different beast, nobody owns you a friendship let alone relationship. If you try to force people to be your friend or partner you only breed resentment against you (and rightfully so) Edit: The „gap“ or the „privilege of women“ in the SMP just exist because men are less picky as long as they get sex. Nobody hinders men to get some standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:00 PM
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What’s off putting is the entitlement and not that somebody doesn’t find someone to fuck. And the entitlement is normally showing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:53 PM
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Women and men have the same „privileges“: Both can say yes and no to a relationship and sex. It’s none of your business why a man or a woman says yes or no to a relationship/sex. If you want to „balancing this out“ you have to force women and man to marry each other or to relationships, this is not possible in a free society. To your second point: a) It doesn’t matter how some feminist think about this, we are talking about incels b) If the really think like this, they are just like incels and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:47 PM
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Oh, I wasn’t even thinking of their success with women... Even as guy I wouldn’t want to chill with one of them right now. Their general pessimism + the entitlement alone is offputting enough and then we haven’t even talked about regressive views like: „the state should pay for escorts“ Women should have less rights than men blablabla
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:41 PM
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Well then I would actually be willing to talk with you. 🤷‍♂️ I just don’t get, why you would give yourself the stigma of this label.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:36 PM
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Fair enough. It’s for me just one of their common believe, which makes them for me persona non grata
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:35 PM
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A simple question: Do you believe that women are below men and should have less rights than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:16 PM
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Incels should use „We are not disabled, society is disabling us“ as Motto for their group. According to them everybody is responsible for their shortcomings, except of them. If they wouldn’t be so hateful and regressive I would even pity them, but in the state the currently are they don’t deserve any pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 11:02 AM
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