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It's important to note that name surpression is sometimes used to protect the children who have been sexually abused. It's up to the courts, I'm not sure there's enough information here to find out. http://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-33-the-criminal-courts/name-suppression-chapter-33/ Name suppression is available in the following situations: ... for victims and defendants in specific sexual cases, the aim being to protect the victim for children under 17 who are complainant…
/r/MensRights13/11/15 01:13 AM
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Yeah, the bug about removing top mods is still there, but when it's possible I will do it. I think OPs post is reasonable given the importance of top mods.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 09:23 AM
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Apologies AlphaWookie, I didn't know. Someone mentioned I could request it in passing. This whole thing was 5 minutes of my day to test our their request sub, not worth all of this.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:30 AM
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This is turning into a pain in the ass for me now. Create an account and I'll add you as top mod.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 06:47 AM
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Hey I don't blame you, at some point with modding you don't have enough time to run around securing everyone's thoughts on you anymore because it can be a ton of work. I don't want to fill this up with discussion of SRD but I understand. I'm going to give it to someone prominent if it's really rustling peoples jimmies though, sorry.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 06:39 AM
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Hey if you want to sling phrases like uncaring at me or say it was a "joke", do it with examples. I'm not the boogeyman you're looking for. It'd be nice if you did the right thing before one of your "antiSRS" mates convinces you it'd be a great joke to fuck around with it. Seems even /u/srslovesgawker isn't true enough. All I did was request the subverse a few days ago so it wouldn't go to waste. I only found out yesterday I had it, so excuse me if I think it's silly to be attacked over this. Ho…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 06:19 AM
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I hope the downvote train doesn't start or we'll end up on SRD ourselves ;) the generic you The generic you in this case isn't modding this subverse though, I'm an individual. Listen I get that you're pissed, a non-significant amount of SRD is. Not on this username but I've been around since SRD's creation so you're preaching to the choir. But at this point I'm not going to de-mod in protest. If you have a problem with any of my mods calls in SRD, feel free to lynch me and drag my corpse through…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 05:30 AM
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Not sure you understood my point. SRD is highly political, almost all mod decisions there are, because that's what it requires. What I was talking about was the ability to make political decisions on any spectrum that is right for the community. Obviously that's not easy in subs that are themselves political. De-mod in protest rather than improve things? That's a good example of serving my own politics, rather than the fundamental reason the sub exists which is to cover drama on reddit. I don't …
/r/MensRights09/02/15 05:03 AM
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I don't mind talking with the mods, I don't know if they care. I thought yetanothercommenter or legolastheelf would also make good mods. Whether it happens now or later isn't hugely important. Feel free to do the ground work if you want.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 04:58 AM
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Oh really? The name was almost lost because no-one apart from me cared. Should I remind you of mensrightsactivism.com? I'm ok with handing it over to another top mod in the future.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 03:43 AM
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I really disagree. Firstly a good moderator should be able to moderate a sub they disagree with because community management is an apolitical skill. Mods who can't are the ones interested in ruling communities from their own understanding, not serving communities through understanding them. That's an important point to me. In any case, I'll prove it with actions not words.
/r/MensRights09/02/15 02:52 AM
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TRP would be far more likely to go first. The only reason MR would be banned is if the mod team continued to push limits on personal info. PCMR is a good example that it's not unthinkable, at least to be held hostage until the mods agree to new demands. What's more likely to happen is reddit updates it's TOS, constricting the liberties given on reddit. Hopefully, what will happen is that they just put a few anti cross-brigading limitations in place, that will give everyone a break so the mods do…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 12:31 AM
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I am a verified long time user on reddit. I would run it in a similar way, since it's obvious the community would reject it otherwise. I don't see the admins ever banning this sub anyway, it would cause them far too much of a pain. An issue with the subverse otherwise would be people leaving might be more interested in pushing the limits, i.e. doxxing. I don't condone doxxing, so if users want an alternative to reddit where they can doxx people then they're right I'm not their mod. I think the l…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 12:08 AM
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Hijacking top comment to say I found the donate link, it seems like just the front page of the site is down: https://msc29029.thankyou4caring.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=298
/r/MensRights29/06/14 03:41 AM
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Yes that would be the charitable view of it. But it's coming from someone who deserves no charity: http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/25glbt/why_does_anyone_take_cathy_reisenwitz_seriously/chgy5m5?context=3
/r/MensRights31/05/14 12:26 PM
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Yikes, if you are all accusing feminists of morphing Elliot Roger into a white man, what does it say about /r/MensRights morphing Elliot Roger into a "half-Jewish" man? You're falling pretty hard for Slutlord's agenda. At the end of the day you better have good excuses for upvoting a homophobic and racist bigot to the top of the sub.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 04:27 AM
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In the future, it's best to put an edit in so people can see what you have added to your post. The changing room thing is also a bad analogy Which coincidentally, was my whole point. Analogies are good to give someone a ballpark understand of your viewpoint, but when your only separation of "man" and "nigger" is that there are less people defending men I think you've lost touch with reality.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 09:53 AM
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not misrepresent what's said Well in that case I would say you are prone to massive, extraneous tangents that serve as only a distraction from discussing the topics at hand and my own points. Perhaps consider a blog.
/r/MensRights03/05/14 07:05 AM
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Men and women also use different changing rooms in the public swimming pools here in New Zealand - shock!! What if that was blacks and whites!! Your post is a stupid false equivalency and sums up some of the worst about /r/MensRights. Telling people to die over 90 minutes swimming time? Seriously? And exactly like a feminist you gleefully cut away context about race and gender until they meet the frame of oppression you're trying to squeeze into. I think I'll stick to /r/newzealand for this one …
/r/MensRights03/05/14 05:21 AM
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Yes I can agree with that, for example the use of the word homosexual outside of more clinical or academic settings is often construed as hostile. If someone is using it as an insult then feel free to be insulted, I'm just sticking up for the legitimacy of the word - which this article is attempting to delegitimize for an entirely different reason.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:55 PM
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You have no problem with non-trans? Nobody is invalidated? Is that correct? I think it's clumsy and if I had to write a thesis on transgender law reform I'd puke at the idea of an ugly hyphenated "in abscense of" word. I've never seen a trans person get upset at someone who is cisgendered saying "I'm not trans". you'd rather hold your nose than look at the evidence I looked last night and couldn't see anything. Others in this thread seemed to have done the same. The burden of evidence is on you.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:40 PM
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I don't see the word "queer" as analogous, it's not latin it was generated from slang, nor is it the opposite to heterosexual. Already taken you know, homosexual. That's what I see this analogous too. People getting upset about being called "heterosexual" instead of deciding on the spot after hearing that heterosexual is a thing to identify as "super cool not a fag" or something. The question is, what do cisgender people identify as? They don't identify. They're not involved in gender discussion…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:37 PM
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They're both emotionless, clinical words that were generated from latin bases, rather than being generated through a colloqualism or slang. The LGBT community didn't generate it to "other" people, they just needed a word and cisgender makes logical sense as an antonym to transgender. The medical community did not generate the word "bronchitis" as a slur for people with a medical condition, they needed a word for lung inflamation and it made sense to make a word from "bronchus" and the latin suff…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:24 PM
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My orientation is my own Cisgender isn't an orientation... I think now this conversation has been a waste.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:14 PM
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No-one is forcing you to self identify as cis. They're just calling you cis and you're getting offended even though the word makes perfect sense. If you want to call your bronchitus "happy cool lung" go for it, but doctors don't have to. "bronch-" as a prefix for the trachea and "-itis" as a suffix for inflamation makes as much sense as cisgender.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 09:12 PM
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No there's nothing wrong with that either. Cisgender is a much nicer word however. Does that hurt somebody's transfeelz? The only people who's feelz are hurt in this threads are MRAs acting like tumblr SJWs and looking for slurs in everything.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:35 PM
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This shows that you're not aware of why this article exists. Not your fault, but you should be aware. Trans exclusionary radical feminists work under a framework that attempts to eliminate the idea of "gender identity", because they believe gender itself is oppressive. Or put more accurately, oppressive to women. They are gender abolitionists, they believe that the idea of being transgender reinforces a binary view of gender that is in their words, Patriarchal. They believe trans men are lesbian…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 12:28 PM
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Great post. There must be a reason women don’t do this to men — turning masculinity into entertainment or a joke, that is. Let me think for half a second. Maybe it's because they don't worry about getting beaten half to death in a bathroom stall while having "fucking dyke!" screamed at them just because they wore pants.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 11:58 AM
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Yes, a laughably hyperbolic metaphor.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:07 AM
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trans: a prefix occurring in loanwords from Latin ( transcend; transfix ); on this model, used with the meanings “across,” “beyond,” “through,” “changing thoroughly,” “transverse,” in combination with elements of any origin: transisthmian; trans-Siberian; transempirical; transvalue. cis: a prefix occurring in loanwords from Latin meaning “on the near side of” ( cisalpine ); on this model, used in the formation of compound words ( cisatlantic ). The "idiotic 'rule' of theirs" is common sense use …
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:06 AM
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War? Really?? Zhe thinks you're sounding like something out of /r/TumblrInAction.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 10:03 AM
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I'm not saying that words can't be offensive, I'm saying I don't see any need to be offended by the term cis. As I said elsewhere, cis is a latin prefix meaning the opposite of trans. Hence, trans-atlantic and cis-atlantic. It makes perfect sense in the English language. What do you want to call yourself?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 08:53 AM
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So are you offended by the term straight? We need words to communicate things. If something exists that is a minority, or non-default, then we need a word. People didn't come up with a self-identifying term for "not-trans" because up until recently "trans" wasn't even a thing to need to separate from. Cis is a latin prefix meaning the opposite of trans. Hence, trans-atlantic and cis-atlantic. It makes perfect sense in the English language. It's just a word, I don't see why people get so offended…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 08:50 AM
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Do you hate the word "straight" too? "Cis" is a latin prefix meaning "on the near side of". If you were involved in more LGBT discussions instead of involved in arguing with feminists (please note, this is not a criticism), then I don't think you would have a negative association with the word. You wouldn't stop wearing red because of communism, right?
/r/MensRights28/04/14 07:36 AM
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Why? You know that the people who push this agenda are by far the most misandric form of radfem gender abolishionists? How is invalidating trans men and women any help to men? FYI I don't accept the arguments for other reasons, but are your warning signs not going off when someone's argument is driven by things like this: Most violence against trans men and women is committed by [...] AMAB men Rape, VAW, FGM, exploitation, inequality, femicide The oppression of women as a class is inseparable fr…
/r/MensRights28/04/14 07:30 AM
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I am specifically referring to non-verbal communication. Yes I understand, it echoes quite closely Warren Farrell's famous section in his book the Myth of Male Power: It is important that a woman’s “noes” be respected and her “yeses” be respected. And it is also important when her nonverbal “yeses” (tongues still touching) conflict with those verbal “noes” that the man not be put in jail for choosing the “yes” over the “no.” Yes I am coming at it from a different angle, I think there's been a bi…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:45 AM
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The concept of enthusiastic is that women can say "yes", think "no", and have it not qualify as consent. Can you cite me somewhere that says that? From all I've read, enthusiastic consent is that consent should be active, meaning "the lack of a no" isn't good enough. It aligns with exactly with what you listed, that sex is messy and so people should be clear about what they are saying. Both emphatic "yes's" and emphatic "no's" are important. The phrase "enthusiastic consent" clearly covers the e…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 09:18 AM
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this dumb campaign No-one's talking about a strawman sex strike. Sex-ed for kids should give them a good idea about staying safe and being clear, and there are already existing gender neutral campaigns doing just that.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:30 AM
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Now that in comparison, is a scorching analogy ;)
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:19 AM
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I agree - pushes for legal documents to include "enthusiastic consent" over consent is going to be negative for men in a society that simply accepts traditional dynamics of objectified women. In New Zealand for example law specifically does not define consent, instead: A positive definition of consent is not included in legislation; that is, the law does not set out what consent is. Rather, the Crimes Act states that a person does not consent just because they do not protest or offer physical re…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:52 AM
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No I didn't say that at all. By "unspoken linchpin", I meant feminists frame it as the former but purposely do not mention it so as to pass it as a wolf in sheep's clothing. I am saying it could be if more negative MRAs didn't automatically reject ideas before contemplating the demands men should be making on women.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:30 AM
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You seem to be implying I'm feminist, in which you are wrong. presupposes that women have no agency No, it presupposes that society currently acts as if that is the case. Unlike others who thinks male sexuality is worthless and that can never change (edit: like the often imo misandric TheRedPill subreddit), I am positive that women have the agency to play active parts in consenting. That's why changing the conversation on enthusiastic consent is important.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:23 AM
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what happens if they don't consent "enthusiastically"? In a system with a heavy burden on women to be clear about consent, then they don't get laid without it and complaints about that are socially admonished. Men refuse to be mind readers because they know they deserve the respect of someone acknowledging their value as a person. You say "it doesn't make sense" but that to me is just a sign that a society that respects men sexually is hard for people to even envisage. Enthusiastic consent is an…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:13 AM
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No I don't think that's a good analogy at all. "Designed to encourage false rape allegations against men" is one of those pointless "preaching to the choir" "skipping from A-Z" statements where only someone with preconceived MRA beliefs would ever accept. Enthusiastic consent could for all means be the opposite, a method of preventing false rape allegations. How is someone screaming yes going to result in anything less than a decreased chance of a false rape allegation, or negative sexual experi…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:41 AM
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Great post, typical of MR to downvote it... The fact that a significant amount of the brain injuries come from assaults says a lot. It's clearly part of a constellation of social issues - drugs and alcohol blackouts were mentioned - but the connection to the ubiquitous violence men face is an important one.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 10:38 AM
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I'm sympathetic to the situation of whites, particularly farmers in SA. But keep other political agendas it the hell out of /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 06:13 AM
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I'll say to you exactly what I say to feminists. Saying it doesn't make it true.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:59 AM
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discriminated against with [...] Affirmative Action I don't know how you expect me to take your comment seriously with that framing. Regarding BEE - how does that have anything to do with men? Are black men not clearly included? Your history in posting /r/WhiteRights tells me you're trying to push an agenda.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 04:31 AM
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Used to be blacks who were second class citizens in S.A, now it's men. Men aren't second class citizens. Stop throwing that stuff around.
/r/MensRights25/04/14 03:21 AM
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A pretty good example of the objectification of women if anything.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 07:06 AM
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which is a stupid feminist term that I have always hated. Poor, non-existent rationale. Privilege is "a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group", it was defined far before Feminists got a hold of it and that perfectly describes many aspects of gender.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 06:54 AM
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Oh how quickly Feminists become Libertarians when it comes to sexuality. Are you the same type to claim women are owed everything from de-sexualized videogame characters to birth control?
/r/MensRights13/04/14 06:28 AM
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we censor ourselves and try to be super-rational You've got to be joking. There are no downsides for MRAs being rational. making puns about women does not help our cause Case closed. I do not think your post was coherent. /r/MensRights isn't discussing your tactics of getting laid. Your rape jokes don't make academics smile, nor do they generate funding for male victims of inter partner violence. MRAs are different from nihilistic pick up artists, the aversion is natural, TRP promotes the kind o…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 11:57 AM
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That video doesn't seem to have anything to do with feminism not being about equality.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 08:35 AM
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You're doing amazing stuff Wodens, keep it up. When I first saw that debunking article I was puzzled at how they were going about it. I assume many reposting didn't pay much attention, the workplace deaths section seemed especially flimsy. Also, re: war: Yes, men are in hierarchical positions where they send great amounts of other men lower in the hierarchy to war. But what for? Look at any war propaganda and you'll see the safety and protection of women was paramount. And for whose benefit? Do …
/r/MensRights26/03/14 09:40 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to make it! While there aren't many interpersonal crusades a guy can go on to have people appreciate them for their time in the gym, there is one important line that's affected by what you've said and that's sexual abuse. For male victims that lack of inherent value is important, and we do have the power to push for changes in discriminatory systems.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 08:27 PM
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I was talking about AMR not badhistory, but systematically removing posts is only slightly better. I've already said what I have to say on the topic of that sub.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 12:32 AM
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Since you can post criticisms of content without being banned, and since humour is not a main intent. I don't think the word has a formal definition, but let's just say that to me those points are important. It actually didn't used to be as jokey.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 11:38 PM
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I never looked, I just took one look through your posting history when you turned up in my earlier thread to see if you were actually a subscriber here or not. If you think I shy away from criticizing MR, I don't think you know this account very well. The difference is I post the criticisms here, instead of in circlejerks.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 11:03 PM
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Victor's monologue on bossy made me laugh, well done. I thought I'd bring up one thing which everyone seems to have jumped over in this copyright debacle, but seems to scream out to me as needing to be pointed out. The actual piece of fan art by the artist is a buxom young Princess Daphne from the quintessential 80s knight in shining armor tale "Dragon's Lair". The game designers at the time literally took inspiration from Playboy magazines to design the character. Now, Anita's whole point was t…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 01:09 PM
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Do you know what's really funny here? The AMR user you're attempting to circlejerk with earlier said this about /r/MensRights posters: I pray that every person who upvoted that gets maimed in a car wreck tomorrow. Preferably something horribly disfiguring.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 11:32 AM
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This is pretty huge. I mean you can see how largely it echos a lot of MRA talking points. Sounds like a lot of victims in America can be helped with these changes.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 10:21 AM
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Absolutely OP. I've seen a few reports on this and other untested kits and one thing stands out: Detroit, where an 11,000-kit backlog remains, analyzing the first 10 percent of kits led law enforcement to 46 serial rapists. It seems extremely dangerous to ignore the very real threat sexual predators pose. They will continue prey on vunerable people when they can so easily be hidden by a system that broken.
/r/MensRights14/03/14 09:59 AM
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Is this the same bonded labour concept that Vice covered back in 2009? Looks everything like slavery. http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-slaves-of-dubai
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:07 AM
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If you are going to spend a whole day disparaging Warren Farrell, at least spell his name right! Everyone involved here could do with a little bit of "taking it down a notch" if you get what I mean. Your wishing for MR posters to be maimed in a car crash and horribly disfigured isn't exactly a shining example of civility either.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 04:54 AM
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No, your comments have been removed. However, they are available for people to view in your comment history. I encourage users to look at /u/HaberdasherFetishist's comment history to see the kinds of comments being censored.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 12:28 AM
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I am happy the evidence speaks for itself. I'm also happy your lone statements to the contrary, and personal relationship to /r/againstmensrights and /r/badhistory, is very transparent.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 12:25 AM
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I think I'm done here, this post is about politcal biases in subreddits and you seem to be willfully insensitive to a concept everyone else seems to understand.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 10:55 PM
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I'm struggling to summon a response here because it almost seems like you didn't read my original post. To clarify even more from the post, I asked "What do I have to do to have my comment approved?" and asked for clarification on why my post was removed recieved only the response I presented. In other cases, users tell other users "go fuck yourself" and that is fine. Firstly, the anti-MR posts in /r/badhistory have become almost daily. Selected criticisms of anti-MR content does not refute the …
/r/MensRights10/03/14 10:11 PM
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Why are you posting with a throwaway? Holocaust deniers have the same slogan you know. The point is when you are predjudiced in which truths you allow and which you reject and remove, your actions and beliefs become extremely disassociated from the truth.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 09:47 PM
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This isn't a post about history, it's about moderators censoring content and bias in subreddits. I don't have any interest in posting refutations where moderators are so partisan, and neither should anyone else here.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 09:13 PM
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That is god damn hilarious OP.... What does an MRA call a woman with an opinion? Wrong.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 11:25 AM
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You're commenting in a deleted thread mate. Try browsing /r/MensRights organically instead.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 11:13 AM
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Great stuff /u/rogersmith. Generally, I find the best response to be a simple and serious one. That while comedy is fine and I can take a joke, the reality of male victims of homelessness, violence, sexual abuse and suicide is not a laughing matter.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 11:03 AM
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and it consists of the image of a skinny virgin guy, who has a mail-order bride from Venezuela It's kind of interesting how often I'm told that rape culture is formed through women being sexualized and (I've specifically been told this several times) that shaming sexually inexperienced men leads them to rape women in places like college, yet the "MRA = can't get laid" (for example see Cracked) trope keeps coming out of their mouths regardless.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 11:00 AM
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I just find it funny that it was a female game design artist who drew the picture as fan art.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 12:42 PM
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Gonna be a bit hard when she's a female game design artist who likes drawing Night Elves that look like this.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 12:39 PM
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Hey this is fantastic Doug, everyone here should appreciate what you do.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:35 AM
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Lol no you won't.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 10:34 AM
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Upvoted comments like these are why this sub gets laughed at.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 11:18 AM
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It's unsettling to see the "My Brothers Keeper" initiative get so little support from this subreddit. You get comments like Oh. So all this does is swap gender politics for racial ones. and... Right. So basically Obama doesn't like Asian and White men. But if you point out white men commit suicide, you get 3 times as many upvotes. It seems biased. /r/MensRights needs to police itself. Either the sub looks at class intersections and disproportionate issues or it doesn't. Don't pick and choose.
/r/MensRights05/03/14 11:14 AM
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As an aside that people should be aware of, one study has found sexual harassment has links to eating disorders specifically in men. Men who experience high levels of sexual harassment are much more likely than women to induce vomiting and take laxatives and diuretics in an attempt to control their weight, according to a surprising finding A real issue is that anorexia nervosa is seen as the archetypal disordered eating behavior, yet men are more likely to suffer from different kinds of EDNOS is…
/r/MensRights02/03/14 04:18 AM
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It certainly seems like the "boys" part of it alone will be a more minor aspect. Regardless, from the statistics presented it's clear young men of colour statistically occupy a significantly dispropportionate amount of areas relating to social problems. Race aside, it will hit the target of boys in need.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 07:34 AM
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I thought the same thing - /r/MensRights definitely controls enough of the discussion of social issues on reddit for the issues raised here to be taken seriously. As one subreddit we can make sure some of that goes to a cause we care about, turning the subreddits numbers into real change. Some options: Gay Men's Health Crisis Crisis Mankind Initiative
/r/MensRights01/03/14 02:12 AM
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You're right, Naomi is definitely on one end of the spectrum and in debates like this against the stereotypical Jezebel feminist she is strikingly positive towards the MRMs points. To be honest though, I only watch a little of the video this thread is about. I've never been one to do second hand cringe.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:51 AM
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You know a while back there was an interesting thread in /r/movies that hit /r/all. It was this collection of stills describing the "13 of the most disturbing films you're ever likely to see". Browsing through them, it becomes very obvious that rape and the victimization of women is seen as almost unbearably disturbing, almost unwatchable. Films like "American History X" or "The Shawshank Redemption" - both of which include scenes that take on prison rape - would rate far less disturbing in peop…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 12:27 AM
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A few quick things just before I sleep. There are quite a few ways in which eating disorders can manifest differently or more noticeably in men, often co-morbidities or factors: Men who experience high levels of sexual harassment are much more likely than women to have eating issues [source] Men are much more likely to abuse alcohol, and alcohol abuse and eating disorders appear to share a genetic link [source] Gay and bisexual men are at a significantly higher risk of developing an eating disor…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 12:17 PM
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Ken Clearwater is an amazing person who came back from a tragic past to do some great things in NZ and afar. The two biggest issues I see is that while ACC provides support for victims of sexual abuse and assault, the amount of men willing to come for it is low. The other is that many of those men and boys simply end up incarcerated because they never dealt with their issues.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 03:36 AM
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First things first - the donate button didn't seem to work! Some great points rolled out though. GWW's point about being taken seriously in victimization is quite a powerful point I have not heard anyone make, the comment about the uniforms in lower paying jobs by Hannah was also something I haven't considered. Lol at socialization vs. biology comments ;) I'm somewhere in between Typhon and GWW, but I will take on some of GWWs points because it was interesting! First, is it possible for a class …
/r/MensRights31/01/14 11:18 AM
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This video could have been condensed down into the "whole person" male dispoability and "sexual power" comment which deserved nothing but laughter, because those two points pretty much tank her video. Nice stuff Victor! Lacy is pretty keen to be seen as a human and not a sex object so I will honour her in saying she has poorly formed opinions and I don't think she would stand up in debate. If her videos were in text form, the utter removal of objectification, no-one would care.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 10:03 AM
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Thanks for posting OP. Just sharing these things is a big help, it opens peoples eyes to the abuse that men and boys hide away and lets others know they are not alone.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 09:21 AM
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SW1A 1AA Buckingham Palace. Their TOS seemed to imply it wasn't required or important so no issue treating it that way.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 12:04 AM
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Fantastic, well done Adrien - this is the culmination of a lot of information this subreddit and other websites honed into an effortlessly delivered presentation. You can and are making real change for male victims!
/r/MensRights28/01/14 09:40 AM
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Ah, sorry about that. Normally I wouldn't post that kind of stuff for that reason. Know that these people are an extreme minority eclipsed by those who support the LGBT people. Forget them!
/r/MensRights27/01/14 11:38 AM
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Ignore it, spreading these kinds of things only serves to promote them - it's like a "thigh gap" for men.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:24 AM
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Nice, thanks for posting /u/AlphaWookie.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 10:15 AM
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I don't understand how people can talk about the lack of female Fortune 500 CEOs and not rectify it with this. For those interested in more statistics about the correlations between race and gender in the sentencing that comes from these arrests, this is a very good link: https://etd.ohiolink.edu/ap/0?0:APPLICATION_PROCESS%3DDOWNLOAD_ETD_SUB_DOC_ACCNUM:::F1501_ID:bgsu1237482038%2Cinline As men move from arrest to sentencing to incarceration and over again, things get progressively worse for blac…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 08:42 AM
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Right, as from their perspective they are not transphobic, they are just performing the "honorable and viable political act of man-hating". You can see it in their rhetoric: http://theterfs.com/2013/03/02/terf-quotes/ SCAMs (Surgically and Chemically Altered Males) are nothing more than MRAs (Men’s Rights Activists) in dresses. [Males are] Fucking mutants. When will there ever be a male-only deadly disease taking over the earth to put them out of their misery, huh? Personally, I think we should …
/r/MensRights26/01/14 11:48 AM
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Wow! GWW and Naomi Wolf, that's fantastic. Naomi has indeed a respectable person even if you disagree with her on various things, I sure wouldn't want to get steamrolled by her like Mau Tkacik did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CQ6SonOfVI
/r/MensRights24/01/14 06:46 AM
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Is it just me, or is someone downvoting every one of your posts?
/r/MensRights24/01/14 06:41 AM
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I didn't say challenging men is immature, I said calling someone a mangina is immature because it is. It's a lewd, childish phrase, telling me to both "grow up" and call other men mangina's is backward. Men instinctively fear and dislike having their masculinity challenged. That challenge to me is impotent, he has nothing to prove because he isn't bowing to women. All he has done is make claims to his strength in comparison to other men. Emasculating gut reactions do not cause compassion towards…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 01:32 AM
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My buzzer must be broken. Firstly, you're essentially advocating for going around calling people faggots and pussies like 14 year olds. You're challenging someone who's status as a man is so entrenched by wealth and status it will always backfire. He has nothing to fear from being called a faggot or mangina. You will lose every time you, the implicit threat is impotent. The idea that men in power are abusing their authority however is something that harms men in power. You know that SJW phrase "…
/r/MensRights21/01/14 08:20 PM
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Jesus listen to yourself, you sound like the feminists trying to take down Michael Shermer on nothing but rumours.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 10:53 AM
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Shitty word. Not even least because it doesn't make sense or help to describe a man in positions of power like that. Mangina sounds nothing more like a challenge to his masculinity, you lose that immediately. What should be challenged is his compassion to other human beings.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 10:51 AM
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Get fucking real. How about if you want people to take MRAs seriously, try not to make completely unfounded accusations of sexual assault against a man.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 10:47 AM
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Mangina's a shitty word man, doesn't really describe him anyway. Great top comment though. Men in positions of power can take all the women they want on their shoulders, and in turn they are free to attempt to shame all men without that power to do the same. That is the the real hierarchy of men, the tough guys in a bar who will start throwing punches if their girlfriend doesn't like something about you. He doesn't need someone to go when if his partner is abusing him, he doesn't need better pub…
/r/MensRights21/01/14 10:42 AM
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Great news. Whether it's forcing people to acknowledge the sacrifice of men, or the abolition of the draft, or equal selective service, men have nothing to fear from a fair and equal system other than what they often fear most, which is protecting the women they love.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 09:33 AM
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The original news column was ridiculous, badly sourced, and should utterly be held accountable for playing it's part in this. But on the other hand, AVFM itself would not have been a target had it not purposefully made itself one. In the end, men lost here. Everyone should look at what can be done to avoid more of this outrageous behaviour when men's health is involved.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 04:39 AM
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Really succinct and well presented. I know Typhon said she was going to focus on HBR but this is the exact kind of thing men's rights needs to deliver to people to set the scene for action on men's issues.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 02:14 AM
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Unfortunately, the powers women have over men would be massively overstated if it was described using the powers cats have over their owners.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 02:11 AM
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That's very interesting to hear, thanks!
/r/MensRights13/01/14 09:25 PM
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Good on the Aussies, they are really spearheading a lot of great stuff for men's issues. It's hard to believe there's so much controversy over freaking certificates for men's health.
/r/MensRights13/01/14 07:59 AM
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Very interesting I missed that!
/r/MensRights13/01/14 07:55 AM
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Men need flexible hours. Men need sick days, because they're going to be caring for parents, as well. Men need all of the things that these women need. These are smart family policies that we're talking about in this report. I don't mind these kinds of things because they are father friendly and can help men, despite all of the weaseling in Coontz article she did actually show care for the state of men and that's something to reward. For example: Most of the wage gap between women and men is no …
/r/MensRights13/01/14 07:32 AM
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It really represents a kind of double edged sword. On one hand, critics of the MRM will claim these articles represent the damage the MRM is doing to male studies becoming more mainstream. On the other hand, the MRM without a doubt represents a force pushing the popularity of those very male studies ideas. But when even the advocates of male studies however are saying MRAs represent extremists who think "white men are now disempowered", MRAs need to continue to wise up regarding their actions. F…
/r/MensRights13/01/14 02:14 AM
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As I said, done with this conversation. An odd thing to say twice :) Listen as I edited in previously, I may come off a little hostile when I'm pumping out replies (I am currently in this mode) so you can renege on that any time you want without fault. I don't think humans are good at being positive about things and then flipping to negative based on degrees. I would say the limiting factors are agency that causes danger, agency that causes a lack or fault at motherhood, or agency that decreases…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 11:44 PM
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Anywho, I'm done with this conversation. Not that surprised, often people who have not had feminist rhetoric challenged are easily frustrated when concepts that entirely challenge it are introduced. And we DON'T look at masculine traits as a tool for someone else's benefit. We also don't view women as sexual objects, if you asked someone that on the street they'd say no, they love women as whole people. But objectification and chivalry are accurate concepts about how we actually function with ot…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 11:26 PM
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It's PURELY as the object of someone else's perspective. As I said, just because you don't like sexuality doesn't make it less valuable. I could claim "but look at HOW we view masculine traits, it's PURELY as tool for someone else's benefit which is why masculine men die overseas for our oil". You can throw negative words like tool and object around but it doesn't sell the point much. You seem to think being physically sexually attractive is negative, I don't and few people of any gender would. …
/r/MensRights12/01/14 11:03 PM
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[Society hates feminine traits] AND then on top of that western culture highly values agency. Western culture highly values beauty and sexuality in women though. Just because you don't like the power of sexuality does not make it less valued.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 10:43 PM
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Because your comment had no real content or explanation.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 10:35 PM
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That's not a criticism of the content, it's just name calling.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 10:27 PM
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I disagree, that is the bog standard feminist assertion on the topic though. An alternate version is that women are innately valuable and so gaining more agency is never a problem unless it puts them in danger. On the other hand, men cannot gain more innate value, and so losing agency (signified by acting feminine) is more harshly chastised. Regardless, these kinds of examinings of are almost always trying to say "Let's remember who has it worse". It's an awful game to play when it creates a div…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 10:25 PM
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I replied that nine out of 10 eating disorders are suffered by women, Except, that's not true. I was furious when I read that.
/r/MensRights10/01/14 10:34 AM
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Honestly, I didn't comment further because I don't know. I would hazard a guess that men are more likely to work in jobs where widespread layoffs and company failure is more common, and women are more likely to work in more stable areas. According to this, the most common jobs for women are secretary, cashier, teacher, nurse, nursing aide. According to this, the most common jobs for men (in Canada anyway) are salesperson, cashier, truck driver, retail manager, janitor/caretaker, farmer. In tough…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 10:01 AM
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Full time employed men take significant hits in employment during recession, women do not. However, they recover in a few years. The gap between the amount of female/male workers has closed over time, however, it's seems quite stalled since the late 80s/90s.
/r/MensRights03/01/14 09:38 AM
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Happy new year. I think it's a growth thing, it will happen with time. But until it does, it's entirely possible for that intersectional analysis to come from marauding white rights posters. "This is a movement for all men regardless of X" is a good defence for the time being. edit: And what I mean is, I don't think the MRM has what it takes politically to have that discussion yet. The ugly part of gender discussions is that both feminism and the MRM are overlaid on top of specific political gro…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 08:15 AM
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In the last 40 years, "women have said, 'Wait a minute, we are competent and assertive and ambitious,'" claiming a wider range of roles, said Michael Kimmel, executive director of the Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities at Stony Brook University. But "men have not said, 'We're kind, gentle, compassionate and nurturing.'" MRAs have said that, and Kimmel has done his best to reject the idea in place of the pushing the one where men are entitled rapists. Why? "Masculinity is valued more t…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 07:48 AM
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Good post, especially relating the workplace death gap to the pay gap. They've put more than kneejerk or secondhand thought into that. I personally think that, putting aside differences in alignments with feminism that will likely always exist, LGBT and MRA action can have a lot of overlap. Particularly because while feminism pushes gender neutrality everywhere in male dominated spaces, they reject it when it comes to cis women, i.e. rape or domestic violence campaigns. I've read some of Valerie…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 07:26 AM
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The words trans/cisgender do not misappropriate chemical terms. "Trans" and "cis" are latin prefixes, hence the phrases "trans-alpine" and "cisatlantic". Not only that, but you're talking about trying to go some way to reject widely (as in far outside of feminism) accepted terminology like transgender for no real reason other than feminist-phobia. What word do you use to describe the intersection of personal characteristics in a person that forms a group experience that can be analyzed? Intersec…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:43 AM
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This is a ridiculously anti-intellectual comment. If you're dismissing terminology simply because you've heard it in feminist spheres then as bad as feminists who laugh at the phrase misandry or reject everything MRAs say without even attempting to understand them. And If you feel threatened by the term intersectionality or trans as an MRA I'd say it's because you haven't made an effort to understand it. Oppression, sure that phrase is loaded, but none of the others you mentioned in any way thre…
/r/MensRights03/01/14 06:19 AM
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Sex and gender is ubiquitous, it is human. But to me, anyone wanting to discuss something intersectional should have to show there is a skew on two axis of discussion, not simply one. i.e., If you want to discuss false rape accusations against black men, you should prove not only that false rape accusations are more prevalent for minority men (racism), but that women across races falsely accuse black men. Otherwise there is no intersection - there is non intersecting racism and sexism that have …
/r/MensRights31/12/13 01:20 AM
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Well I've read some bell hooks but I didn't think she gave weight to what I'm criticizing - she took women's issues and the issues of African Americans to be structurally synonymous, which I don't, and all her writings are built off that base assumption. If you have a recommendation then I'm open. I'm just not sold on it yet. And don't get me wrong, I see huge overlaps in thought between MRAs and LGBT. But another major issue I see is that MRAs are easily derailed into white rights/anti-LGBT ter…
/r/MensRights31/12/13 12:08 AM
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My point is that the lack of intersectionality in the MRM (and many kinds of feminism as well - I'm also critical of many kinds of feminism) is a massive failure for the movement. I'm not so sure I agree - how great are the unique intersections of gender and other factors? So fundamental that it is better to alienate all people who don't agree with your holistic philosophy on each social issue? Can different movements not co-exist to focus on difference axis? Take for example, Atheism+. Is Athei…
/r/MensRights30/12/13 11:01 PM
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Except you're leaving out the critical point which everyone else implicitly reads, which is that the two parties are clearly thought of as having different levels of societal power. Which not coincidentally will be the first thing a feminist says in response to both of the two questions. This power fantasy about men is critical to how men are stomped on by society. I wrote about this more extensively here
/r/MensRights24/12/13 10:28 AM
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If you think comparing men to whites is a good idea, you've already swallowed a bad frame hook line and sinker.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 09:38 AM
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Ka pai Nana ;)
/r/MensRights22/12/13 02:09 AM
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She probably went sour when she had to work herself and started spouting this propaganda [...] she's saying it for the wrong reasons. This comment is so ridiculous. You know literally nothing about this person and are assuming the worst of them because they're a woman.
/r/MensRights22/12/13 02:07 AM
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I would submit that feminism has significantly more historical credibility and mainstream acceptance, mostly by virtue of being around longer, so that incidents like the U. Toronto protest don't make much of a dent in the mainstream movement. I would say the opposite, all movements form out of radicalism. I don't think Feminism and Men's Rights are synonymous though as I was just using example, not in activism nor ideology. You are not in the minority, but manboobz is certainly the kind of propa…
/r/MensRights21/12/13 09:27 AM
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Nuts, it seems /r/egalitarian is losing the equality race. Feel free to post more general topics about masculinity to /r/OneY.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 09:01 AM
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I haven't weighed in on all this yet so this is where I will do it: I walked into that post for about 20 seconds, it didn't look interesting, made one unrelated comment and I noped out. I have always found it disappointing people care more about false rape accusations than male rape. The concern around the form was 100% legitimate. Regardless of mis-characterization of the form aside, the existence of a name field itself is enough to make it relevant. The aim of raising awareness on it was certa…
/r/MensRights21/12/13 08:59 AM
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That sub is dead in the water, same as all the other half hearted efforts.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 08:17 AM
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No, most MRAs complain bitterly that feminism has caused massive anti-male changes in society. Society is very much malleable, falling back on biological trends in males and females to claim society will never change is anti-activism.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 08:04 AM
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Yeah don't worry I agree. I think the poisoning of the terminology is unfortunate because generally no-one has a problem with these things when you word things differently. Also, YIKES! You broke reddit, this comment returns to my inbox every time I look at it - I'm permanently getting my privilege checked over here.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 05:42 AM
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I deleted the post but I'll reply again so others can see the studies: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10940-006-9010-2 The main focus of the present study is whether the effects of race–ethnicity (and gender) on sentence outcomes are similar or different across gender (and racial–ethnic) groups. Consistent with the findings of prior research, we find that female defendants receive more lenient sentences than male defendants and that black and Hispanic defendants receive less favorable…
/r/MensRights21/12/13 05:37 AM
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That's a disingenuous way to portray it. You're mixing race and gender in cross cutting ways.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 05:32 AM
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More likely because the terminology is used by social justice warriors.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 05:13 AM
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Because choices have context, which is why there are racial disparities in the first place.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 01:36 AM
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I have yet to hear any explanation from those who constantly spout on about "white male privilege" about why the approach that should be taken to minorities is compassion, understanding and resources, but the approach taken to men should be shaming and abusive rhetoric to make them respect the (edit) class, i.e. women that does not experience the prison system.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 01:36 AM
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NZ is a small country but there were 33 deaths this year, 31 of them men. http://www.business.govt.nz/worksafe/research/health-and-safety-data/workplace-fatalities-2013 "He did not earn a living wage, forcing him to work unacceptably long hours in a country with no maximum hours of work, and now this all means he leaves behind 7 year old beautiful twin girls and a lovely 21 year old son and a widow now receiving ACC of 80 per cent of $16 for the years to come to support them all." His partner an…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:17 AM
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All the best for your future, stay well.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 10:28 AM
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Do you think that your experience as a trans woman are going to be vastly more abusive than a cis woman? I don't base my ideas on simply reported experiences even if you agree with me, but I am very interested to hear your voice no matter what it says. I disagree with you about male privilege though. While I definitely agree that males are treated in the way you claim, I don't think you've focused on any traditional female privileges. There are empirical ways of measuring wellbeing and quality o…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 09:25 AM
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Is there anything in particular you're referencing? Someone challenged me the other day that 1in6 was a feminist organization but when I both asked for evidence of that and investigated I couldn't see any. Like most men's organizations they seem in a kind of nebulous state, academics who realize there is a problem but don't want to step on any toes trying to solve it. Name aside it just seems like the largest organization that actually cares about the issue.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 09:11 PM
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https://1in6.org/ $25 will provide one hour of online support to any man, family member or friend who may have nowhere else to turn. Your contribution will provide one hour of online support by a trained volunteer 24/7. $50 will allow us to mail (postage paid) two books from our Lending Library to any man, friend or family member who might need a resource but be unable to purchase it themselves or feel uncomfortable doing so. $100 will provide for one half hour of 1in6 web-programming developmen…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 08:27 PM
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You should resubmit this as a link, more people should see it.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 09:01 AM
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I don’t want the fetishization of women’s sexuality. I don’t want women saying our sexuality is special. That second statement is what separates Paglia from a normal feminist. Miss Sarah Nicole Prickett on the other hand I don't even care to tackle, she sounds like a truly hateful and bitter person: I am sick of rape stories on CNN and sicker of rape stories on Jezebel. I would like instead to see national, televised debates and full episodes of morning radio shows and several long-form podcasts…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 08:46 AM
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Just "organically" floating through MensRights?
/r/MensRights17/12/13 07:59 AM
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I'd say it's the complete opposite. It's lack of peers to support them, and the abundance of people willing to shame them from the opposite side that is the problem.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:38 AM
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That is god damn horrendous. There's so much talk about sexual power dynamics regarding men and women, yet here people are turning a blind eye to boys having their innocence raped from them. “From late 2012 until early 2013, a female MDOC staff member repeatedly opened John Doe 4’s cell for purposes of engaging in coerced sexual intercourse with him,” the suit claims. Which is not at all suprising given the US Department of Justice report on sexual victimization in juvenile prisons. http://www.p…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:35 AM
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Yes definitely, trans women similarly. Although don't expect MRAs to be particularly focused on or sensitive to trans issues.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:24 AM
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Personally I dislike all of the terminology regarding "marrying up". Women don't marry "up" because women provide something essential to marriage, not "lesser".
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:19 AM
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You do such a great job with stuff like this Legolas!
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:15 AM
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I would say the guy was probably man enough.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 12:42 AM
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That isn't actually true... Kat Banyard's hardly Dworkin but she's as personally unpleasant as the next radfem.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 11:34 PM
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jokes about "forking" Oh heavens, watch your language! wanting to fuck the presenter (who was a woman) I'm not sure that's correct. The phrase was "I would fork that guys repo".
/r/MensRights15/12/13 11:27 PM
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It would be great if you would cross post this to /r/OneY.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 10:27 AM
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I think being a lesbian makes a person more likely to be a bigot. Statistically it makes them the alignment of sex and sexual orientation most likely to commit acts of domestic violence as well. Please tell me how these statements are any better than feminists generalizing men as rapists and domestic abusers?
/r/MensRights15/12/13 06:41 AM
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Great article, I read it all. Especially relevant because of your experience with being diagnosed with autism. Not so much a question but I think it's also relevant that what you identified as one of the most painful experiences was rejection of friendship by a female, and that being enforced by a male.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 02:38 AM
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Well firstly, I subscribe to this sub and like you I can say pretty much whatever I want within the mod policy. But your points seem off what I'm saying, it's not that a person has a class that's the issue. All elements of a person are going to intersect with gender because it permeates all elements of life. It's just that the issue we're discussing in this forum is gender to the exclusion of other elements. People should be wary of pushing in the other direction. By avoiding other issues you av…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 09:56 PM
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I have, I posted about it literally yesterday in defense of a "what does this have to do with men's rights". http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1sqxdh/you_know_shes_a_girl_you_know_shes_weak_thats_not/ce0osn6 Point is - is literally every unfair murder trial a men's rights issue that should be posted here? Can you see how weak it is as an example in absence of a comparison to women? And much much more to the point, how could any person be so blind as to think this wasn't an attempt to s…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 09:15 PM
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Cheers mate I appreciate it ;) I've heard people try and wriggle out of every MRA talking point there is, making pre-emptive strikes is important to stop people just setting up a frame that allows them to simply ignore what men's lives are actually like.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 06:18 AM
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Was anyone else invited/going to speak? I agree with the post, regardless of what you think of AVFM this is great stuff.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 04:10 AM
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What the fuck is this doing here. 41 upvotes, good job showing how "not WhiteRights" this sub is everyone. Nothing to do with men's rights. What, male on male violence? Nope, I doubt anyone here can put up any kind of argument there. "T-this wouldn't be done to a woman" - farcical reason for posting or upvoting. Even the Judge was male. If there was ever something I felt compelled to post to /r/againstmensrights it would be this. What else does everyone want posted from this site? Maybe: Muslim …
/r/MensRights14/12/13 03:55 AM
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This isn't a gender issue. "You know she's a girl, you know she's weak", "she's only a wee girl", "she's being hurt by them", "she's on the ground, that's disgusting", "she's a girl! A girl!", "You know she's a girl right?" - do you really think there is no gendered dynamic here? Plenty of police brutality/libertarian cringe videos are posted to reddit. I have not seen any featuring a sobbing many crying help while his friends say, "he's only a boy, you know he's a weak boy right?" There is plen…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 01:19 AM
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Agreed, totally. Good examples of this in modern feminism: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/male-tears Male tears. "boys don't cry", same thing. Misandry gif Females attacking males = funny, because women are weak and cannot hurt men. Feminists would balk at that assumption but the internal engines for these expressions of female weakness/male power are there regardless of if they are cognizant of it. edit: Here they are reveling in it, reveling in the weakness of women to weaponize it for their ben…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:57 AM
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gender euphoric Lol.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:44 AM
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I disagree. Someone saying "But she's a weak little girl!" to, or getting mad at a male police officer trying to do his job is sexism against men. If you saw a group of (edit) people surrounding a female police officer calling her weak and pathetic, would you be mad for that being posted to /r/feminism? Come back here and defend your opinion.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:19 AM
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This is a joke website. Nothing to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:15 AM
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Are you really that confident in your knowledge of wider feminist thought on single sex schooling? As mentioned in this article feminists have been split on the issue there are plenty of feminists who think female only spaces are safe havens from sexism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_only_space Also please realize that if you come in here to start a fight, you have no high horse to ride off on when people do in fact devolve into combative rhetoric.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:00 AM
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More evidence that the feminist concept of patriarchy is wrong. I'm kind of on the fence. On one hand, there are women's only colleges. Kind of a strange outlier to this discussion though because they are normally (afaik) liberal arts colleges and hence not going to be full of women promoting traditional views of men and women. And yes, I very much agree that it's a vital point that women enforce gender roles as much as men. On the other hand, we're talking about single sex schools vs. co-ed. Fe…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 06:54 AM
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Overall I feel that while Mens Rights has a lot to contribute to LGBT in general, this is not something that affects MRAs or something related to men's rights. I feel like it could overlook serious mental health issues and might ultimately be damaging to people that have been victims to such abuse. I guess I don't understand what your point is, or why you think this is an area worth pushing. If someone is sexually abused they should receive support for that regardless of what interconnected effe…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 06:40 AM
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When you go back to /r/againstmensrights, please remind them that they are kidding themselves if they think that their meta-linking results in organic voting or does not cause brave posters like yourself. Also, the fact you think radfems are made up is hilarious. http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1pgdpr/men_use_fucking_and_breeding_as_a_way_to_pacify/ Your ability to dismiss strawmen while making them however is just sad.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 05:27 AM
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I agree. There was another case this year of a woman charged with two counts of sexual violation of a boy and recieved only 10 months home detention. Of course, how could you send an innocent female churchgoer to prison when she cries? Having sex with a 13 year old girl would destroy any man's life.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 09:06 AM
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New Zealand focuses on rehabilitation, you can sentence people to 40 years in a cage but it doesn't mean they'll be any kind of citizen when they're released.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 07:16 AM
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Disgusting, someone is unevolved if they enjoy porn? It's hilarious though that "jack off" isn't one of the options to avoid porn.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 07:13 AM
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Actually yes, a few days months ago a man was convicted of sexual connection with a 13 year old boy and sentenced to 3 years: http://www.3news.co.nz/Pedophile-jailed-for-more-than-three-years/tabid/423/articleID/309183/Default.aspx However, there is clear gender discrimination in NZ courts: http://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/handle/10092/4629 For example, constructions of women as dependent, emotional, and traumatised by victimisation often appeared as explanations and excuses for women's offending. In …
/r/MensRights11/12/13 07:04 AM

Is or was Norah Vincent actually a feminist? I haven't seen anything to say that. Great video though, there was a review of the book posted over at /r/OneY the other day which you can read here.
/r/MensRights11/12/13 06:46 AM
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You're saying that 3 is the best way to get to 4? Yes. So you really want 4, but want to go through an extra step? Do I want 4? I want a fair life for men, and women. To me the discussion on whether conscription is a necessary is a smokescreen used by people to avoid discussing the issue of the inequality men face.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 09:57 AM
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What's wrong with trollx? I don't see much more wrong with it than all the male oriented subs. Also, today's young women do have real power.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:39 AM
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Like the majority of men's issues, feminists hide behind inaction to stand up and fight for women to recieve the obligations of men alongside social privileges. They simply give it lip service, ignorant of the pressures men face that halt them from ever releasing those burdens onto women. Personally I go for 3. Forcing women into conscription is the best chance of it being abolished.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:36 AM
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Very true, although serious plastic surgery is not the nicest of options. Likewise men have little option downstairs. And another point is that there are fetishists for all female forms, not for male forms. It would be interesting to see how shame is enforced around body issues, it seems either the fat positive feminists are truly more brave or they do not undergo the same systems of shame men experience.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:30 AM
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On one hand, yeah an obvious attempt by a radfem on a crusade to kill male sexuality. On the other, yeah I'd like kids to grow up away from addictions to pornography.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:24 AM
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Apart from the blatant marketing ploy, there was one thing that stood out to me. Neat vs vain?? Since when have men ever been able to focus on their looks without being the vain one? Completely backwards.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:21 AM
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What's your problem? It's just some kid asking a question about gender. Maybe you could stop being such a ass and give them a decent reply? For the record, the "if" at the start of the sentence makes it a lot better than the TERF version without it.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:14 AM

Every time this is brought up someone tries and rationalizes it as "MAYBE IT'S THEIR PERSONALITIES THAT ARE THE PROBLEM". It's such a joke, they'll do anything to avoid discussing this topic. Normally those types will drag out "women are more affected by being fat so don't wat about teh menz to me" or whatever but when it comes to height it is clearly a men's issue.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 07:03 AM
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Yeah I can see both sides of it - perhaps the cover should show both sides too.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:14 PM
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The problem is though is that society sees men at the heart of that indifference. If you show pictures of victims of war, people cannot understand that men's issues are about inequality with women.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:47 AM
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Lol, so someone from AMR not respecting the boundaries of banninating ay? ;)
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:40 AM
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Two things: After consideration I actually agree with the female images for Farrell's cover. They're poor images apart from maybe the first, but the idea is good. You can put all the homeless people and war dead on the cover of the book you want but the vulnerabilities of men to women as a class is what the discussion needs to be about. Paul is just so disappointing... no-one can deny what he's done just to get people interested and it's essential to the MRM to have people radically upset about …
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:26 AM
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Talk to your principal. Tell them your teachers conduct is making you feel uncomfortable and seems inappropriate since boys and men also face gendered issues that the U.N. would tackle, like war death.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 11:59 AM
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So that's a no to divulging what SRSers alt account you are? Note how I liberally used SRSer, and you likely knew what I meant? Previously I asked, "What is defined as an MRA?" because to me it's as nebulous as "feminist". It's a shame people associate the A with activist because to me that's an automatic halt to most people using the term to describe themselves. "I'm not a feminist I'm an egalitarian" works fine (edit: although plenty of people around here call themselves feminists and MRAs) bu…
/r/MensRights08/12/13 04:14 AM
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I think that's easily negated in a class presentation if OP is black. In which case the discussion on false accusations about minority men is something worth hi-lighting.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 11:30 AM
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On this one I'm going to side with skepticism, just like nutritional studies, pop science outlets looking for a story take a conclusion and use it to justify a lot of ideas not supported by the research. Don't get me wrong, I think sex differences exist and gender abolitionist feminists are ridiculous and perpetually hyper-skeptical to the point of delusion, but I would have a look at a report like this to see the widespread problems with a lot of reporting based on nature vs. nurture studies. I…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 11:15 AM
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the North American white women are butterballs So are North American men they got fat at the same rate.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 10:02 AM
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Or something else I noticed from this entire ordeal that has gone unspoken - if Latino, Asian and White women are relatively interested in dating white men, why are there not a slew of articles from the liberal side calling women racist? For those interested, here is a simple description of the dynamics: http://imgur.com/O383bH8
/r/MensRights06/12/13 07:32 AM
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I think there's a difference between /r/TumblrInAction circlejerking about and quotes like: It’s way more than just pretend bodies for SCAMs—these men’s minds, hearts and spirits are nowhere near to what women’s are. They can’t be, they never will be, and the more they threaten and insult us, the clearer it is to all women. It’s like they are way beyond even most rapists, who want to maim and torture and possess girls and women… They want to completely eliminate us, and particularly Lesbians, as…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 04:32 AM
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You should spend less time looking for MRAs making fun of tumblr people who think they're trans-cat and more time looking for radical feminists writing hate speech portraying trans women as rapists.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 04:19 AM
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Fair point, that comment was off the cuff and lacking caffine.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 09:26 PM
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It’s not women who are the problem. It’s men. Ha I missed that, it's a better tl;dr than I gave.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 09:25 PM
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Nothing invalid about you, anyone who doesn't see gender as some kind of zero sum game is fine with me.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 09:22 PM
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They all identify as advocates for men, MRA is just some internet term. Do you identify as a username other than one used to follow links to /r/MensRights?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 09:18 PM
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Yes I disagree for two parts. Firstly women are the main source of shame for men and uphold traditional sexism as much as men. Traditional masculinity is used to protect and provide for women. Largely the issue I have with this is that like most feminists (regardless of if he is one) he is incapable of criticizing women, and so he cannot criticze the gender constructs themselves fully. He recognizes men's issues deeply in massives screeds of text (his main issue...) but comes up with nothing mor…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:56 AM
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Feminism is about championing equality and autonomy, not giving women a stick to metaphorically beat men with. Lol. feminists (or at least not all of them) don't see gender relations as battles which need to be won. LMFAO.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:29 AM
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I generally dislike Doctor Nerdlove. An excruciatingly long and pointless read so let me tl;dr if for you: "let me describe masculinity to you focusing on only men, because men are the cause of all men's problems.". A good example: Of course, the problem isn’t that women are going to judge them – in fact, women are far more likely to forgive whiskey-dick, especially if he’s willing to apply himself in other areas – but other men. Ha, see how deftly he tries to put all of the shame and onto other…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:14 AM
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Yeah the death threats and FBI involvement hardly look good, the accusation of a false statement makes it worse.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 08:12 AM
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Oh absolutely people blaming men for sexism is victim blaming. However as you might have seen, radical feminists don't believe men are victims of sexism. They define sexism as prejudice + power (with a definition of power that suits their view), and thus only women can be victims of sexism. Men are said to be victims of toxic masculinity or their own hegemony or "patriarchy backfiring" if you're from tumblr. To them, what you're saying is that men punch women in the face and then get to be calle…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:59 AM
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What is hate? "intense dislike"? It's a spectrum of intensity, arguing that misogyny literally means hatred is good for lampooning someone and pointing out their oversensitivity, but it will never win an argument when people recognize that there was some anti-female sentiment present.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:37 AM
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Focus on the issues men face disproportionately issues, and then make sure to point out that rather than men being the cause of these problems, these are human problems that men are expected to solve or be burdened with. This together is a frame where people can see that men face not just problems, but inequality with women. Here is one example of something you can use, since it involves the law regarding women sexually abusing boys that only came into play in 2005.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:32 AM
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IMO no, the victim blaming argument is when there is a perpetrator and a victim, and any focus on the victims actions is a distraction from the perpetrators. It's a lot like the Libertarian "non aggression principle" in a way. On the other hand, if the perpetrator acts on their own free will to hurt themselves in isolation, the perpetrator and victim are one in the same and there is no-one else to blame. In general I think reversing or co-opting specifically feminist terms is a bad idea. Those t…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 06:56 AM
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Is anyone else amazed that a company testing male contraceptives is struggling for money? Seems like something every guy would want, although obviously this is still invasive. Anita Sarkeesian could fund this thing.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 06:10 AM
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Men are seen to be in control, thus any hurt they suffer is seen to be caused by themselves - i.e. it's not someone being abused, it's someone who is abusing themselves. It's a narrow view relying on the falsehoods that men act for the benefit of men and that conflict is male.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 05:51 AM
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If a feminist said a similar thing in reverse, people here would lose their god damn minds. edit: Meh actually it'd get a response but probably be standard feminist fare, "If men took care of children as well as they raped they wouldn't be in divorce court" or something like that.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 02:41 AM
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No prob, that's just off the top of my head. I would look into the main activist groups regarding circumcision too because there's a lot of protesting regarding that topic.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 12:31 AM
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The one of the leading activists on male sexual abuse, who has done work in Uganda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Xisb1V0OY Or in Canada, have a look at Justin Trottier and CAFE's Center for Men and Families. Or in Academia, New Male Studies. What is defined as an MRA? To a feminist, it's going to be "people who I don't like who don't advocating for men right". So most of the time when they see someone advocating for men and doing real good, they'll just discount them as even being an MRA.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:31 PM
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Across every question, Catholics are more supportive of legal abortion than non‐Catholics. Those who attend church once a week or more are less supportive of legal abortion across all questions, but still broadly support legalizing abortion in cases of threats to the woman’s life and health, rape, and severe fetal abnormalities. Which is odd, can't say I have any explaination.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:22 PM
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I don't think ownership either way gives these people allowance to act that way. Completely unsurprisingly, Argentinian men and women are equally split on the topic. It's just only men are being spit on.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:14 AM
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If men should receive affirmative action for anything, it should be for caring and teaching roles. Because part of the problem right the way through education is the lack of role models for boys, especially for fatherless children.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:55 AM
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Abortion isn't a gender issue as feminist make it out to be, at least polls in America at least show abortion is about the a woman's rights vs the rights of an unborn child which is not a gendered opinion. Men only factor into it by having an opinion on the sanctity of life/bodily autonomy. ...but I can sure tell you one thing about gender, the only thing holding these women back from being involved in serious violence was chivalry. Polls say Argentinean men and women are perfectly equally split…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:51 AM
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Meh seems like a real strawman. The first image describes most sitcoms, fat guy/hot wife combo.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:10 AM
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Other way around, Ryan -> Erin Gloria Ryan :) No I agree though, men are expected to brush off abuse from women, claiming gender hate within traditional structures is emasculating.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 11:32 PM
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Potentially, I am trying to see it from both angles and I do empathize with conservatives given reddit's liberal view. MR is far far more libertarian so it seems to goes both ways here.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 11:22 AM
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This particular issue was not influenced by gender hate I agree that this is not really MR material, but I have no doubt that Ryan would think twice before publicly joking about wishing death on a woman.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:08 AM
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You put "Liberal" in the heading for no reason, stop pushing politics here. Ryan's first reaction to the controversy was to mock conservatives as unable to take a joke. Lol, oh those Jezebel feminists, always asking "why can't you take a joke"? Oh no wait, Lindy West literally went on TV to decry tasteless jokes.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:01 AM
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It's not about quotas, it's about recognizing that part of the reason men are not applying for these jobs is caused by the same kinds of discrimination that women's organizations are funded with millions of dollars to combat, and that it benefits children to have male role models in their lives when they are young: http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/moves-recruit-male-early-childhood-teachers-video-5001141 http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/566253/Lack-of-male-teachers-explained
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:51 PM
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Notice how she singles out white guys, when she's a white woman?
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:31 PM
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And yet you can see here she says: Women continue to have disproportionately high levels of part-time work indicating the uneven nature of caring responsibilities between men and women
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:12 PM
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So you've come here to tell MRAs that girls call guys creepy because they'll never make enough money? Bravo.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 10:52 AM
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I can't say I see every comment in MR. This thread is about false or damaging accusations of negative behaviour onto men, so here the spade is a fork. It sounds like you've come into /r/MensRights not to listen to men hurt by accusations of being something they're not, but instead belittle the opinion that women would ever call a man creepy because he wasn't attractive enough. Why? I rarely if ever see the word whore and for fun I would be interested if you could point one out, out of all of the…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:46 AM
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"sub-Judith Butler" sounds like a feminist criticism of other feminism but hey, as long as long as you're supporting Movember.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:25 AM
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They're a troll, just ignore them.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:24 AM
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You have made one mistake which is to preference fear over actual victimization. Men are rarely allowed to express feelings of victimization or fear, and so they don't - despite being more likely to be a victim of violent assault.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:22 AM
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But I'm sick of being told that describing someone as creepy when they do shit like that is "creepshaming" I don't think anyone's saying that. If you heard someone talking about how emotional and whiny women were, would you stand up for women? What would you say to the response "I'm tired of people telling me I can't tell emotional and whiny women to shut up"? Because this really is about combating a sexist stereotype about men used as an insult to hurt normal men, not about abusive assholes.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:19 AM
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Fantastic stuff! It would be great if everyone who reads this could take a small moment just to scour for scholarships and submit them.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:40 AM
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MR loves making ad hominem arguments about feminists. It's absolutely ubiquitous. Yet white nationalists? Oh no we have to concentrate on what they're saying!
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:31 AM
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You are a fool. Troll is the word.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:29 AM
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Ok, at first I thought this was just a once off. But this is the third column I've seen attacking movember in this way. SJWs dislike masculinity so much they would actually try and tank a project on trying to save men's lives. You don't see these arguments pulled out in force like this for breast cancer awareness campaigns with the exact same gendered angle. http://www.mcgilldaily.com/2013/11/movember-as-micro-aggression/ (truly epic response in the first comment) http://rabble.ca/news/2013/11/o…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 11:55 AM
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This to me read as it was about transphobia and not men and women, something that if anything fits in with MR. If you think any questioning of content is concern trolling there's not much I can do about it.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 11:37 AM
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I think you're talking about this one from Honey Badger Radio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1wZTDd2NNc
/r/MensRights01/12/13 09:38 AM
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Conflating men with whites is the easiest way to dismiss men's issues.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:05 AM
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Ctrl+F women Ctrl+F men Does this have something to do with men's rights? edit: I stand by the question being valid but I'm not blind to the kind of intrusion into a traditionally male space this is attempting.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 04:03 AM
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Average title but a great video.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 12:50 AM
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That first one is such a fundamental misfire of the understanding of MRA talking points and feminism it really does sum up the average feminist view on everything men: feminism doesn't hurt men men's problems are caused by other men
/r/MensRights01/12/13 12:34 AM
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The gendering of words really needs to be put to death. We don't need mompreneurs, bromance, gurl gamerz and mannies. Just let them do what they do.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 10:14 PM
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I think everyone's on the fence about this for two reasons: it showed no instances of women enforcing gender upon men (a denial of agency that is itself sexist), and showed the classic "don't be that guy" guy choosing not to be that guy.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 05:21 AM
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In short I definitely agree and would not try and minimize the issues girls face, but the question is does this stuff happen to girls or to people? How is it possible to know the extent if you don't survey boys? Assumptions that boys do not face issues that girls do are dangerous. Also you mention complain, which is another important point, because just as a note speaking up about problems disproportionately is not the same as facing issues disproportionately.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 04:24 AM
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If you're ever really feeling down, you should feel free to send me a PM.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 01:22 AM
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If you're ever really feeling down, you should feel free to send me a PM.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 01:22 AM
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I subbed there for a while and it was quite hard going because man, there is a constant stream of new threads. I sub to a bunch of other support subs to try and make up for it but you're right... /r/suicidewatch really is the one needing the most effort.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:22 PM
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That's great news, nice to see this at the top of the sub. It seems to bring Britain into a similar line as NZ.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:59 AM
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That's great, a serious effort for a wide range of topics. Australia is doing a lot of things right.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:31 AM
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These surveys are simply ridiculous. How can they survey half the population about sexism they face, then simply assume that's going to be disproportionate with what the other half faces? How can they claim that girls face serious inequalities while ignoring the violence boys are expected to face? I have no doubt the statistics they found are important, but they are meaningless to the idea of equality because there is nothing to be equal to.
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:23 AM
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Those are good points, normally it seems like I'm the one on the opposite side of this argument. Here though, people's kneejerk upvote was based on a title that focused on her being a gay woman and linked that to a "culture of victimzation". That's pretty disappointing to me when MR is wanting people to focus on the victimization of men.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 10:44 AM
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The headline may be grating, but the content is not The content is grating for the same reasons the headline is. They are both of little relevance to MR, the link being so tenuous it threatens to not exist. How does the MRM expect to be taken seriously about the victimization of men when they're seen to be fighting on the side of rampant homophobes and a "culture of victimization"? introduced race which is a non-issue in this story. This is important - I mention the MRM being seen as a straight …
/r/MensRights27/11/13 10:01 AM
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I understand WBB posts, this is not one. I even disagreed with sillymod on the topic of their legitimacy, but this is so far from that it's pathetic. She's a woman lying about people "being mean" in order to garner attention and sympathy. Yet the headline barely comments on anything feminine aside from waitress. And she isn't even accusing a man, she's accusing a family. "The feminist culture of "victim worship"" says it all it, it is to link seeing women as victims to seeing LGBT as victims. Co…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 07:48 AM
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If there was ever a "What does this have to do with men's rights", this is it. The fact that this has 116 upvotes changes my mind about this sub. I mean, random true blue misogynists - I get they're going to wander in. That's going to happen. Hell, lost of people upvoting things that step over the line into genuine misogny, totally get that's going to happen. But this is just meaningless for MRAs. There is nothing positive for men here. If anything this is negativity for gay/bi/trans men. Rather…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 06:32 AM
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Until you have evidence for the former, I think it is wrong to refuse to take a study and a huge meta study at face value just because of suspicion. Otherwise you will never change your preconceptions, I don't do conspiracies. Beyond Bias and Barriers (the report I linked to) was by the National Academy of Sciences and underwent a peer review process by a committee of 19 people. Even in the case where claims were overstated, at this point I do not believe they could be denied entirely. The stati…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:54 AM
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Sorry if I was a little hostile - I agree, most studies on women in male dominated fields are fraught with victimizing generalizations and mischaracterizations of the data. Even in the study I posted, I felt the conclusion was misleading in that it didn't identify that women were more likely to discriminate against otehr women (either that or missed some kind of standard error, but it looked clear cut to me.) But this is one study I feel backs up the meta studies well. Additionally, there is ano…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:31 AM
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No, this is simply the best example of a clear cut result from a randomized double blind study which cannot be explained by work hours or any other common MRA talking point. They are generally much more expensive to run, nutritional studies often have the same problem. Large scale meta studies show the same phenomenon. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK9813/ You say you "doubt studies that don't find discrimination get published", but the only person here I can see denying statistics they don…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:27 AM
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Here is an image: http://imgur.com/8tfehbV So social sciences, physical science, biological science, computer science (women in tech huh?), earth sciences, engineering and pharmacy all had women ahead by slight margins in most cases.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:35 AM
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Salaries are up to the discretion of the person hiring. Also, if women are rejected from more prestigious jobs then that would equate to a lower starting salary. /u/Zeddikus makes a point below you that people would simply hire women if they could - but the reason they are being offered a lower salary is not based on deliberate discrimination, but gender stereotyping that women are less capable than men. I base some of what I'm saying on this randomized double blind study that shows female names…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:28 AM
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Have you seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEQrpsOAaPI http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/889543128/equal-means-equal She raised almost as much as Anita Sarkeesian... Anyway, the way she talks about the ERA is undoubtedly odd. A lack of real explanation as to what an additional amendment could do for inequality. I cannot say it looks like anything but a bigger hammer for women's issues, and nothing to do with equality. How is abortion anything to do with equal rights? I do understand ho…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:12 AM
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Good stuff, when it comes down to it for a few reasons men are more in danger of street violence than women are. It's the little things that count, people can say whatever they want about the MRM but stories like this from young people show that it's really coming regardless of what they say. Good luck for your studies.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:46 AM
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It's difficult to deny that women suffer more than men No it isn't. Actually, if anything it's difficult to prove. Otherwise great article. Some of the comments make me want to plunge head first into a brick wall.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:55 AM
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Australia seems to be the one place actually paying attention to men and boys in education. They have a "Success For Boys" program which is really leading the way in terms of focus on boys.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 08:55 PM
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Either that or it has no citation.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 08:35 PM
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I agree with that, although I think given the ubiquity of the word "empowered woman" the phrase was fairly loaded. I would also say that many women do find the kind of sexual portrayal feminists call sexual objectification empowering - I would be interested in seeing how many female players picked the female Barbarian in Diablo 3 for example. I hope that the people speaking out about this can back it up with statistics somehow, because it's hard to simply take their word on the hordes of women w…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 11:38 AM
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The goal is to let people have fun in an environment where they can feel awesome without being weirded out or even objectified. This is a genre about empowerment. Why shouldn’t everyone feel empowered? What the hell kind of a question is that? No, MOBA's are not about empowerment or some anti-sex agenda. I understand that women playing games want better characters, fair enough. Hell, it's not that different from hardcore gamers railing about brown space marines. But that is such a pathetic way o…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:26 AM
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Great little article. We need more gender neutral campaigns for all victims of rape and domestic violence.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:21 AM
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Including well known academic feminists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janice_Raymond
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:10 AM
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While TERF radfems try and back it up with science, they use the exact same theoretical structures to back up bigotry against men as the do bigotry against trans women (and men). They just go one step further in the demonization of men than normal feminists, they demonize anyone who they deem isn't woman enough.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 10:00 AM
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It's on the exact same spectrum. Men are rapists. Trans women are rapists. Women need women only spaces away from men. Womyn need womyn only spaces away from trans women. Men are privileged. Trans women are privileged. etc. Feminism seems destined to always be tainted with the hatred of maleness. Any percieved maleness. Drop your support for it and support true gender freedom and egalitarianism. edit: That last bit was shortsighted of me, recognizing the problems within feminist theory is the fi…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 09:50 AM
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Great stuff, I wish the mods would sticky more posts because this is something that should get out.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:12 AM
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The opposition party in New Zealand just announced a gender quota system. You might think an entire wing of the government devoted to women is enough to balance out whatever advocacy women are missing, or that maybe that men in positions of power would help to work for men's issues, but that is not the case.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 07:05 AM
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Unfortunately no-one can prove a good troll account is a troll. I called you a potential troll account because I'm the first to acknowledge that. Commenting in this thread is not helping your defense, a lot of AMR was linked to mensrightsmeta recently and probably to this thread. To be honest I didn't pin them as the types to try and troll MR, I thought it would be game0ftrolls leftovers.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 09:30 PM
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That doesn't surprise me at all, the more you stare into MR and see legitimate men's problems and statistics being raised the more circlejerking and satirical humour you need to keep the faith that MRAs are a bad idea and that their anti-MRA position is untouchable. Certainly lends credence to the idea that one of them is behind /u/Alisdair_ if they like playing pretend and Poe's law.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 12:59 PM
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They sound desperate to frame CAFE as something other than MRAs, despite them hosting a talk by Warren Farrell and fitting all the checkboxes for what anyone rational would call an MRA. They fear raising consciousness about the victimization of men. This article is essentially "Ok ok I can't deny it any more, you can have a tiny little bit of sympathy. But we're watching! Don't forget who's really oppressed in society."
/r/MensRights23/11/13 11:35 AM
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More MRAs are democrats than republicans. You're foolish to try and drive a political wedge between MRAs, especially given the amount of "Man Up" speeches from the right, see the response MRA Helen Smith got on Fox News. But beside that male on male infighting and shaming terms like "beta male" don't give you very good standing.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 10:42 AM
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I think that's called a study.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 02:20 AM
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Well /r/WhiteRights or /r/sjsucks is always available to those willing to defend white people from the privilege monster, I did openly discuss the issue of suicide in American so I'm not exactly lacking nuance in comparison to SRSers. I don't think privilege politics are perfect, but I think statistical correlations are important ways we navigate and understand social problems. We are free to disagree on this. I'm arguing that trying to have any sort of discussion in which privilege is invoked i…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 01:05 AM
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I disagree, but I am glad you understand my point. And yes, gender is critically different from race - I wish I had actually included discussion about that in my post. Specifically, racial minorities are statistical minorities whereas sex is rougly 50/50, and there are no important biological differences regarding race whereas there are critical differences in biology regarding sex. The "privileged man" argument that started all this" was based on disengenous use of statistics. Again, my point w…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:44 PM
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Sorry, I could point you to the posts but I deliberately left them out so as not to make this a personal attack on another poster. You are free to disregard my comment because I am unwilling to prove it. My points about the implicit reinforcements of this were the main target of this post.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:55 PM
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No I don't think that is true at all, the only interpretations of this I have read that would fit with that comes from teenagers on tumblr.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:19 PM
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what feminist has ever argued that white women have less white privilege than white men? An SRS mod to name one. But my point was that the terminology does this implicitly by reinforcing the connection between white and male. why are you lumping the experiences of black men in with white men if you recognize that they experience problems that white men do not? I am saying both being a male and being a racial minority correlate with negative social issues. I am not saying the experience is the sa…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:17 PM
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If you have criticisms of my post, then make it. However I cannot see how anything you are saying is related to what I've said. Why do I need to constantly be racist very occasionally discuss race? Because there are serious socio-economic inequalities between various demographics - the main one I focus on being men.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:13 PM
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I could go further but this gives you a simple idea. If you have more issues you'd like to add, feel free. Judicial System: We find that Hispanics and blacks, males, and younger defendants receive harsher sentences than whites, females, and older defendants after controlling for important legal and contextual factors. source Consistent with the findings of prior research, we find that female defendants receive more lenient sentences than male defendants and that black and Hispanic defendants rec…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 01:16 PM
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Huh? I think they're saying you denounce those who are more extreme versions of yourself, not less extreme. Although, I do not consider TRP to be a version of MRA. I consider them to be going in different directions, but others perceive TRP to be the same as MR.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 12:41 PM
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My friend shushed me, but I called it out loud and proud. “I’m a cunt!” Until that point, I had only heard a man use that word. The experience was freeing. This is a feminist who gets it. Who takes demeaning traditional terms and frees herself from being defined by her sexuality. It's saying "I'm tough, I can take it, I'm not a child I'm a woman". But the truth is that feminists as a whole, despite what has been perpetuated, don’t hate men or wish for the torment of men. But that is a feminist w…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:39 AM
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They're kids. They need discipline and authority, boys especially so. Do not treat them as your peers. That's my recommendation, I hope things go well for you and I hope you can help the boy with whatever issues he's facing.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:29 AM
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I absolutely sympathize with socially awkward young men and the problems they face, although I'm not interested in discussing it much (certainly not here) men have many issues surrounding vunerability in relationships that are worth discussing. But I am not interested in supporting PUA or RedPillers in any form. That are going in an opposite direction to MRAs. I feel that PUAs have a naive, but frail high horse they try to climb on when trying to justify what is essentially gender nihilism. PUA …
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:00 AM
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I totally agree with scholarships for men in early child care, nursing, social roles, teaching. Because anything else is hypocrisy in a Nation truly trying to achieve a more egalitarian focus. There has been one scholarship program I know about here in NZ for nurses, small fish compared to the money women in STEM get but there you go.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:22 AM
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Parallax scrolling is the new hipster thing in web programming - coming to a website near you!
/r/MensRights20/11/13 08:15 PM
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Well I don't think MRAs are going to abandon something as good as CAFE any time soon no matter how distant it gets. What really matters is what they're doing and saying, and that's all in line with the MRM, I'm not to fussed about the rest.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 11:55 AM
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Sorry I really should have put the date in the title, I just felt it was relevant to the discussions around IMD and who the people are most in opposition to it. Michael Flood is an Australian feminist, extremely anti-MRA and a White Ribbon campaigner. I really have to give AVFM one thing, their alexa rankins are awesome and their article on him comes up on the first page. http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/a-flood-of-bad-intent/
/r/MensRights20/11/13 10:23 AM
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You're absolutely right, and I wouldn't advocating for changing it. But if you want funding (for example, CAFE) you have to prove that it won't look bad for the funders and that you're a legitimate organization. I just see it as putting on whatever mask is needed to do the work that's needed.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 10:17 AM
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I'm glad to hear it's not unheard of to be a chick around here. Generally there are quite a few people who choose not to disclose their gender. Oh and for the love of god, /b/ might be funny but we are a little above that, there is a lot of good content posted here.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 09:52 AM
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Is this person on reddit? Tumblr is painful. Nice link though thanks.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 09:48 AM
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Out of interest, this is essentially the same thing I said here yesterday, you might be interested.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 09:34 AM
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Men's Issues Movement ay? Hey whatever works, including distancing themselves from the term MRA. CAFE's saying the right things, that's what counts not labels. Self described feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers tell me that works just fine. Also, misandry being used in a huffpost article seriously - seems pretty real now to me!
/r/MensRights20/11/13 09:06 AM
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If you are going to visit this sub, please don't circlejerk or resort to petty insults.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 03:50 AM
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I knew I would come to MR to find a bunch of people had brigaded this post. Hilariously, there is no bashing in this thread. Do you know why? Because you and the others who came to MR have silenced discussion on it. This has happened with every single Sarkeesian video posted to MR. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1jjnch/rmensrights_youre_being_brigaded_and_you_should/
/r/MensRights20/11/13 03:49 AM
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Hey sorry I'm late on this - they have managed to get a significant amount of funding previous to the indiegogo, it's a common thing when people do kickstarters. You can read the details here: http://equalitycanada.com/support/ccmf/ edit: They are aiming for min 75k, min 50k.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 10:36 AM
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Hey sorry I'm late on this - they have managed to get a significant amount of funding previous to the indiegogo, it's a common thing when people do kickstarters. You can read the details here: http://equalitycanada.com/support/ccmf/ edit: They are aiming for min 75k, min 50k.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 10:35 AM
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Please read the sidebar :)
/r/MensRights17/11/13 10:08 AM
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If you subscribe to a lot of subreddits or the defaults, the posts you are most likely to see from MR will have to have >1000 upvotes. There is an algorithm for determining the order of reddit posts you see, and likely this is based on subreddit size. I would hazard a guess that lately there haven't been a lot of image posts (which is good!), reddit is biased towards image posts and those normally skyrocket to the top.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 09:46 AM
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Full stops dude! Full stops.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 09:42 AM
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Oh man I never replied to this! :( If you're a feminine man, or androgynous, or trans, or a man who has women in his life, some post 90's schools of feminism have done a wonderful job of reaching out when nobody else was even trying. That is a good response to the question I was asking, and yes I agree. The MRM simply is not at the point where it can tackle these issues, which is a shame because I feel the MRM has a lot of ideas about gender/sexual minorities that can shine a light on areas femi…
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:06 AM
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Doing a great job of representing /r/againstmensrights there, it's actually been a while since I've seen the kind of classic petty insult throwing SRSer around reddit.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 08:23 AM
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Please leave this kind of circlejerking/sarcasm behind at SRS. If you have a criticism you are more than welcome to make it but please be constructive.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:45 AM
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Was this something that ever needed proof? Yes it's a serious issue, and another example of why more gender neutral campaigns against sexual violence are important.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:45 AM
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I love GWAR, thanks for posting :) To be fair, do you think they'd depict a mutated vagina?
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:34 AM
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Reality is that men and women aren't equal, so there can be no equality of choice.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 05:43 AM
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By facts you mean insults? That's all you seem to have. You took the cowards approach of commenting on your own post to make a reply you said you wouldn't make. Pretty embarrassing. I agree responsibility lies with the person who makes the choice, for men that choice is sex. The equatable scenario for LPS is adoption, not pregnancy/abortion which is a physical process not at all synonymous with LPS.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 05:09 AM
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No one should be shamed for their preferences. I agree, but that does not mean we should ignore the reason those preferences exist in the first place.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 12:20 AM
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Unfortunately for men, it appears that their options will remain limited. I think things are slowly changing. "Low status" is a little harsh, because being a father/mother is a critical social role. Without good moms and dads, there are no future shining engineers and diplomats.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 12:18 AM
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It's too bad they have such a great artist, you can make some pretty stupid opinions seem legitimate with nice artwork.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 10:07 PM
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I choose to let you have the last word Apart from these words right?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 09:37 PM
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This board unequivocally is the best place on reddit for the forwarding of men's social issues on and I wholeheartedly support the brilliant content submitted to it and the vast majority of it's excellent posters. You need to shed your emotional skin and male shaming terms if you want to be taken seriously, the downvotes you received here should be a wake up.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 11:10 AM
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Assumptions aren't agreements though, though yes in this case snapchat seems like it would be one between any two reasonable people (even kids). I can there are potential problems with the laws, i.e. someone has control of sending you something that if you accidentally share can incriminate you. However I have good faith that it will be used in serious cases, I don't want to see any more teens kill themselves over this stuff. It's a problem with the freedom of information in general however, and…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 08:43 AM
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If anyone should go to SRS it's you, your lack of a response and circlejerk reply is typical of a social justice warrior.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 08:24 AM
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I disagree with your analogy. This involves misunderstanding of technology on the girls part, and trust. You don't trust a robber you don't know and everyone knows how locks work. A better analogy would be you invite someone over to your house via text, but they forward that text to all their friends who all come over, a lot of them happen to be dicks who spill something on your carpet. You didn't say they could bring their friends over and they should have known better. But you did invite them …
/r/MensRights15/11/13 08:21 AM
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By this logic, a father does not own his sperm and therefore has no rights to the child. At least, that's why saying things like "The end" is a wild overstatement of a complicated subject.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 08:04 AM
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You are most definitely a troll.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:44 AM
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There isn't a law against immoral sharing of private pictures though, at least not yet in Canada. They were charged with producing child pornography (which both parties were involved in doing if you count the capturing of the images) and distributing child pornography (which both parties were involved in).
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:39 AM
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This is crazy, it should be the top link in MR.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 07:34 AM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with men avoiding relationships with women, everyone has the right to go their own way. Doing it out of spite or some kind of modern reverse political lesbianism isn't honourable though. I don't know much about MGTOW and don't care too much as they seem just to be... going their own way. It seems a lot of the time they're arguing with PUAs or MRAs. Maybe that's just barbarossa. Thecriticalg makes some great videos though, cool guy.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 10:50 AM
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Thanks for posting! It's good to always look at the data, studies can easily be skewed to meet an editorial. This one though... seems as it is.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 08:43 PM
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It was quotes like those that made feminists send death threats sent to the poet Ted Hughes on mere allegations of domestic violence. Extremists who intend to kill for their own political righteousness care little for the semantics you're talking about. Not to mention the grey areas such as men who are engaged in mutual domestic violence. Vigilante justice is never the answer.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 03:06 AM
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I wonder what it's like to have that kind of self righteous victimhood. To have sex with someone who is almost underage - must younger than you at least - and to be able to call yourself hurt and frightened. It's a cliche I know, but flipping the genders, a man saying he's hurt and frightened would be laughed right into a sex offender registry.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 10:11 AM
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Good luck :) I can't grow a mo so the best I can do is help you along!
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:27 AM
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Men and women do suffer in extremes so there is no need to shy away from it. But those extremes are balanced. Oppression is a unilateral suffering, gender is a balanced dynamic.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:03 AM
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I wonder how many men who, after lacking resources and shelters to get mental or social help from being abused, snapped and killed their partners? Given both men and women have the ability to walk out a door and ask for help, but they don't because the constriction of abuse is mental not physical, it would make sense that there would be men in these cases.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:57 AM
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Often but not always. I don't doubt that most feminist media is anti male, but you have to show context for a criticism to have any weight.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:51 AM
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A fantastic post, thanks! I always think about the Solid Snake torture scene. The unwillingness to confront media like that makes claims that putting female characters out of their misery promotes domestic violence rather silly.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:46 AM
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Good stuff. Equality should be about the freedom of choice without shame for choosing "wrong", regardless of if most boys and girls pick gender typical toys. One interesting fact about toys - girls typically do not show strong preference for stereotypical toys. Boys show more interest in boys toys. Studies also show boys are more strongly negatively stigmatized playing with feminine toys, which can potentially explain why boys are so constricted by homophobia and anti-female sentiment (sorry fem…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:39 AM
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Why? If racist ideologues pretend to shed its beliefs, would people take them at their word? Potentially, yes. That's why they call themselves race realists now. When it comes to men, feminism relies on traditional views of women as disempowered and needing protection. It's totally repackaged but everyone is vunerable to this kind of appeal. To say all feminists are motivated by hatred will also fail as an appeal when people are meeting feminists that do not at all appear hateful. They will symp…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:30 AM
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and if you'd like to deride me here for my honesty You get derided for your opinion regardless of your honesty. To dismiss anyone who disagrees with you by saying "shaming tactics" ensures you will never listen to criticism no matter how salient or valid it is. Support the good and punish the bad. Articles like these are what help convince the average person that men are not genderless, and when that idea about funding a men's shelter comes up every last bit helps.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:17 AM
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It seems it originated from The Good Men Project. Great article. And editing to say why I think it's great, is because it's something people will share. Articles like this are based in emotion, but if you can get thousands of people to share an article on the hidden vulnerability of men the feminist narrative just seems silly in comparison.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:12 AM
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I also applaud your work. MRAs do not need to create straw feminists, feminists themselves are writing and doing more than enough ridiculous things today that pushing quotes from the 60s isn't needed. Whipping people into a frenzy over false quotes can also be potentially dangerous, when people realize the quotes are not in context that's strike one, but when they realize the quotes are 30 years old and Feminists are telling them "We're sex positive now! Come talk about how Patriarchy hurts men …
/r/MensRights12/11/13 08:08 AM
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I very much agree, but you need that context in order to judge it. You could pull quotes from American History X and make it look like a white supremacist film, but the actually film is not at all Nazi apologism.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 07:55 AM
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Sounds ridiculous to me, men are often discriminated like this in early childcare roles. tvnz.co.nz/close-up/moves-recruit-male-early-childhood-teachers-video-5001141
/r/MensRights11/11/13 09:21 AM
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Grapeban clearly did not say the man was guilty.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:52 AM
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Good article, though I felt the sexualization was out of place. It seems more about making women's actions seem harmless.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 07:10 AM
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If that was the only point I would not have any reason to reply.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:51 AM
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Just recently there was a case in NZ where a serial rapist like this could have gone free because of a string of false and withdrawn accusations. The idea that nice guys just accidentally rape girls because they didn't see a poster on the topic is misleading. Victims should definitely be able to come forward without shame and there should be a way for them to do that and find support. http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/9158454/Guilty-verdict-returned-in-rape-trial 10 victims. The fact that th…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 03:24 AM
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It is not specially distressing, specially unpleasant or specially degrading. Are you kidding? The relationship between sex, shame, degradation, humiliation, power, and domination is so much more complicated than your fallacious comparison makes it to be. I think you should read about the shame and homophobic feelings male rape victims experience trying to come forward before you make such wildly apples and oranges comparisons. To say rape is specially degrading is not to say rape is the most un…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 02:59 AM
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If you believe this then surely a boxer getting in the ring is consenting to die as a very real if small possibility of death in the ring. Yes. high rate of rape therefor by joining they are consenting to rape No this is entirely different. By definition, one party does not consent to rape, and the other is a rapist. Rape is not an accident. Rape is not out of the control of both parties, rapists make a choice and if it was there would be no punishment for rape. And rapists are punished. You ana…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:30 PM
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Oh yes I do understand that, in fact I defended that point the other day. Still, MRAs regularly criticize feminists for the exact same type of hypocrisy, i.e. wanting the privileges of being protected while wanting the benefits of equality. I think it is worth criticism. Regardless, what I was actually saying was not criticism, just saying that a group of people upvoting something is not indicitive of blank slate support of it.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:20 PM
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Regardless of your views on war, honouring the men that resolve the extreme conflicts of the world on all our behalf is something I see intrinsic to men's rights. Soldiers are not the cause of war.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 03:44 AM
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Your "abusing logic" comments are just a touch condescending, maybe that's just your way of speaking if so disregard it. MR upvotes anything pro-male, it will upvote articles for including women in the draft and also upvote articles saying women shouldn't be in combat. I am still interested in the entire communities ideas on the topics (I did just ask for pro-paternal surrender views). Once again, what does this have to do with the topic at hand? [...] By bringing this up you are once again dera…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 02:42 AM
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I think sex and contraception are powerful choices, the only other option I am hearing is paternal surrender, of which I have given my thoughts on.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 02:04 AM
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I am a little unclear of your point because of your wording, it would help me if you do not generalize your statements and include the male/female actors and actions. So I will first try to express by countering your analogies. My assertion was in sex, two people consent to each other with agreed upon protection knowing pregnancy could potentially occur against both their wishes. If someone gives you their credit card, spending money on it is doing something they did not consent to. An unconscio…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 02:00 AM
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No, a woman definitely does consent to the possibility of being pregnant, she just gets the choice of abortion. I feel I laid this all out clearly in my original post.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:43 AM
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Have you read my original post.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:28 AM
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You assume that it must be one of two options based on a single graph. I am generalizing that those are going to be the two most likely scenarios, if I have left another out there is no reason to be hostile. No, the survey allowed you to choose as many options as you liked, it was from the MR survey. On re-viewing the source it seems the person who did the survey was not confident in the results, but regardless the question of where the MR userbase stands on the topic is still relevant. It isn't…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:27 AM
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It seems you not read my original post where I explicitly countered that idea. But you're okay with forcing the man to spend his life working because somebody else made a choice? He makes a choice, the choice is sex.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 01:17 AM
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Except that contract doesn't apply to the woman. Which I mentioned in my post, please don't say this back to me. Sex is an individual action between two people, for which all natural risk aside from disease lies with the woman. It is the child of both parents, hence why fathers have rights to their children. edit: The above post was edited substantially.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:57 AM
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Safe haven abandonment is a more accurate comparison. Yes that's a great point. I have read your stances on abortion previously, but while as it legal I am framing the discussion in terms of that choice freely existing. Sex is not a contract to take the risk of becoming a parent. I cannot see how it isn't. Birth control is not 100% effective, and pragmatically a lot of people suck at ensuring birth control. It seems you can never know, so it is a risk. However I definitely separate a good faith …
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:41 AM
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What does it being last in a list of issues have anything to do with anything? I am wanting to gauge the divisiveness on the subject. I do not know if MR is split on the subject, or if there is cohesion but a lack of interest. Your first dot point is once again is simply an attempt at derailing. This is not the point under discussion. No it isn't, I would view it as an essential axiom to what I am saying. If I did not think women had the right to an abortion, the following logic would determine …
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:27 AM
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Well, there's the morning after pill. Then there's abortion They are effectively synonymous in terms of the logic in my original post. Would I be right in saying she can only do that if she does not name a father, as I mentioned? You know that the state... This is interesting but not relevant to what I'm trying to find out about. Another time, I'm keen to avoid an explosion of topics as people reply to my post else I'll never keep up. Slavery, child support, call it what you wish that's what my …
/r/MensRights10/11/13 12:21 AM
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They also publish articles like this though. If this guy isn't serving men then no-one is. I'm not blind to the feminist underbelly of GMP. I just don't see half hearted attempts at men's issues from feminists weakening the MRM.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 11:53 PM
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Except that women have lots of ways to change their minds after the sex act. Men have none whatsoever. You will have to actually let me know these. Apart from abortion, I know a woman can choose not to name a father. While that is an important topic, it doesn't seem to fit in with paternal surrender. How are we enslaving men? I don't feel this is a response to my assertions.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 11:46 PM
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I understand your point, however practically If the child is physically aborted, then the paternal surrender (yes I will use that term) is nullified. The order of each participants decisions seems irrelevant because they can negotiate. The interesting case is when the woman wants to keep the child, and the man does not.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 11:06 PM
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Can the pro-paternal surrender types give me some feedback on my thoughts? It's not an area I've particularly discussed at all: The idea of paternal surrender less popular idea in MR. If you take a look at this for example it was rated the least important MR issue (unfortunate I've just noticed that male rape came after false accusations...). I believe that a woman should have the right to an abortion, and that once she is impregnated, that is her choice to make because it is her body and her he…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 10:40 PM
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All good, it was just that this is post sitting at -16. Not sure if you saw but it was comment brigaded pretty hard by AMR circlejerkers. Step by step really. Bonding on experiences of victimization is one way, which men often refuse to do in a bid to outdo each other and be perceived as self reliant and invunerable to victimization from women. But when men allow each other to be victims as men and stand together, they take the power of shame away from women trying to hyper victimize themselves.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:41 AM
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Yeah but it doesn't have to be a zero sum game, as I said below about her heteronormativity - "No problem, I get that, it's just unfortunate she can't state it with a caveat when it clearly tanked her entire article from the GMP." I think broken families, single parent families with low income and feelings of abandonment are a far larger social force than having a male body around. Yes I totally feel male role models are important, actually the lack of male teachers is something I think is a bit…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:32 AM
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Jumping through my comments? You're right they generally don't, I see that as critical to gender inequality for men. It is easy for men who have scaled hierarchies of masculinity to force the men below them to give their lives for women. To me, men caring about other men is essential to the the men's movement.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:04 AM
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She's discussing men in the context of heterosexuality, women are an intrinsic part of that. Men don't exist in a void, they exist as a counterpart to women. And if GMP was racist I wouldn't defend it with "It's the good men project not the good blacks project". Not to mention gay men.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 07:02 AM
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From my very distant memories, Buffy & female friends also sustained a lot of violence against themselves - i.e male characters assaulted female characters and they did not cry victim.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:57 AM
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Whedon doesn't like the word feminist, it sounds inherently icky to him. He views "ist" words like "racist" as blanket "bad people from the past" kind of words. So he proposes the word "genderist" to mean people from a previous paradigm of sexism, and no word for egalitarian people because it should be seen to be the norm.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:49 AM
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I agree - some people are negative about this (because they see it as rebranding) but Whedon's "genderist" word is something that MRAs could just as easily use to skewer feminists with. Why throw it away? Why not jump on it before feminists (still mad at the rejection of their identity) do and take the reigns for men's issues? Feminists have an extensive framework of frail gynocentric concepts. If we are moving into a new era of gender equality, I can't think of anything better chance for a new …
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:46 AM
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Pretty funny that a certain feminist subreddit is made up of mainly white guys.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:29 AM
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Can you clarify what you mean by this comment?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:16 AM
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It's not an honest discussion though, it's a heterosexual one.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:12 AM
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Some quotes from the article: Without strong fathers to guide, instruct and discipline them, boys lack purpose .. Still even father substitutes can’t be Dad Her statements are either coming from a traditional heterosexual viewpoint (failing to acknowledge same-sex parents), or either explicitly stating that lesbian couples cannot raise boys - no doubt she would extend her argument to girls needing a mother. This in no way surprises me given it's coming from a traditionalist. edit: I should say t…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 06:00 AM
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This was actually for a kickstarter for a book about gender and body issues. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2066910174/every-body-an-anthology-discussing-body-and-gender
/r/MensRights09/11/13 04:43 AM
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I would describe it as feminists believe the current gender binary is itself oppressive towards women. So anyone acting in a gendered way - whether that be suffering by or accepting the benefits of gender are reinforcing a system of Patriarchy, and thus women's oppression. You often hear two sides of this argument that form a circular argument. Benevolent sexism is an example of the Patriarchy, and that sexism is benevolent sexism because of the existence of Patriarchy. And when asking the quest…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 04:36 AM
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Why waste time attacking the GMP? Yeah not everything they write is perfect but they're not doing the men's movement any harm. I've seen plenty of decidedly non-feminist MRA type theory on that website. edit: In retrospect it is definitely fair to bring it up given Venkers article being removed, but the whole "publication for women who hate men" is the only thing that's "fallacious" here. Not even to mention the fact Venker's traditionalist views also haven't gotten a free pass in this sub. Is t…
/r/MensRights09/11/13 01:04 AM
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Really? Norway is about the same size as NZ and we raise about the same amount, maybe it's just me but most people doing it is for men's health. http://nz.movember.com/leaderboards/
/r/MensRights08/11/13 10:03 PM
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That's the only response? I know it isn't, but it doesn't stop feminists from using it as a final scapegoat when they're backed into a corner. I doubt you've truly pushed a fellow feminist to explain the engines of benevolent sexism or toxic masculinity so you've never encountered those arguments.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 09:23 PM
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Thanks to the mods for stickying these posts. This show is taking off and I have high hopes for it bringing a lot of people in.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:25 PM
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While that's technically correct they can be tried for unlawful sexual connection. I am planning to write to the Justice Minister about the discrepancy in the laws as there is likely sentencing disparities. Regardless, it was only up until 2005 that women could not be convicted of that serious offense for molesting a child. Hard to believe.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 01:24 PM
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Sure, it's also possible to help out women without being a feminist. The average person it pretty good at not playing "who has it worse". Do I have to remind you how the tropes against men kickstarter went? An anonymous youtube video is not analogous to CAFE, I'm sure this guy isn't going anywhere. I'm rather skeptical of MRA claims of feminist bullying Come on, the author of that article is clearly not an MRA. Here are her own words on the topic - "I was vilified, I was cast out of the sisterho…
/r/MensRights08/11/13 12:14 PM
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Just while I have a short minute, those posters were intended to be half satirical. The point you make about them being misogynist and making wild generalizations? Those are the same things being said by the MRM about the original posters. Feminists say "well if you're not a rapist you won't be bothered by the posters", yet in reverse it no-one feels the same way. To mix satire and a legitimate issue is poor form which is one thing AVFM is terrible about doing. Not everyone in the MRM supported …
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:27 PM
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Oh yeah it was linked in againstmensrights alright.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:14 PM
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Downvoted as per reddiquette. Come back to MR when you have something constructive to contribute. k.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 11:16 AM
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It's shitposters and trolls like you that caused "linking and discussing" to become "brigading". At least some others from AMR had something to say.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 11:09 AM
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Actually the thread was downvoted to zero before it was linked.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 11:02 AM
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Oh you...
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:08 AM
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This thread is a mess, yet you took the time to write out a thoughtful and constructive post in defense of men's issues. Use your gold wisely :)
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:59 AM
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Unbelievable. One study in Ireland found almost 60% of men in prison for non-sexual offending were sexually abused as children. The truth is throughout life we expect men to withstand more trauma, it's no wonder they end up anti-social criminals. http://www.odt.co.nz/lifestyle/magazine/215130/end-silence
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:39 AM
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It's fantastic to see this is spreading.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:34 AM
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Is clearwater even an MRA? If you are questioning whether someone who exclusively advocates for uncovering the unspoken prevalence of sexually abused men is an MRA, I think you have predefined MRA to mean "people who advocate for men in ways I don't like". And does CAFE even do anything except put out propaganda? I have trouble taking you seriously with a statement like that. They have raised almost $50,000 for a Center for Men and Families. As an actual victim of actual bias against men, I do r…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:20 AM
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Duh, my bad sorry.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 02:58 AM
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Cowards is correct. I don't mind criticism of MR at all. However they do not provide constructive criticism because they fundementally want the MRM to collapse (won't happen) as oppose to improve. This is why they post inane comments rather than debating MRAs here, it's a zero sum game. To best illustrate this: I know if I go back to working for homeless men's advocacy I would refuse any money or support from the men's rights movement
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:23 PM
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Well I ask two things, firstly you are the 6th person to follow a link from AMR and post here. If you are wanting to avoid a shadowban, I suggest you cease it. Secondly, if you want to criticize it I suggest you do it regularly in conjunction with supporting legitimate men's issues. I wish they'd be for men instead of against women MRAs are not against women, I agree some of the more extreme posters here have an anti-female sentiment. I wish they'd be against rape instead of against rape convict…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:12 PM
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For the record, 6 people with AMR posting history and 1 throwaway account posted in this thread, which is sitting at 0.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 08:02 PM
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Although it's implicitly about women and girls, powerful men are also the people who can reach out to victimized men and boys.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:06 AM
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If you're going to criticize MR, please try and be more constructive.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:02 AM
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/r/FeMRADebates, /r/Game0fDolls
/r/MensRights06/11/13 10:46 AM
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It's a shame you only descend from againstmensrights to posts infantile comments.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 10:35 AM
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Not being able to search for feminist writings is not immediately troubling to me, unless they're providing material that is good. I agree mocking NAFALTs is just noise, it potentially drives away people who care about men's issues. Feminists were the only people who believed me, about being raped and terrified of sex, and who gave a shit about me. This doesn't surprise me, regardless of your gender. Sorry to hear about your circumstances, I know a lot of disaffected youths are ostracized for no…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 10:33 AM
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I have every right to use the women’s restroom. They're right, they were perfectly within the law to use the women's restroom. Not much more to be said. Obviously using the unisex bathroom makes sense and I think most trans people would because of this exact kind of abuse. But they don't have to. The rule she cites about "gender identity" stretches things far enough that anyone can claim to be any gender and use any bathroom. But they don't. That's the whole point, this person has undergone a tr…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 09:52 AM
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This is clearly aimed at transgender students, at it's also gender neutral. The danger of this policy is clear - women and children will be put needlessly at risk as heterosexual, sexual predators will be able to gain easier access to their targets. Such bullshit, obviously an attack on trans women by demonizing men.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:53 AM
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I'm not sure what the US meant, but the NZ studies that showed 8-12% were for known false complaints (against both real and non-existent people). The actual "no offense" statistics were as high as 1/3. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/16gpy3/false_accusation_and_false_compliants_of_rape_new/
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:28 AM
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And another of interest: http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/8426339/Men-used-to-hug-more
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:15 AM
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Here's one from yesterday: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/megasahd-the-lack-of-gentle-platonic-touch-in-mens-lives-is-a-killer/
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:13 AM
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I don't feel gender is symmetrical like this, and that's the reason for the lack of the term.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 08:03 AM
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I sure hope so. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1hyfnk/gone_expat_been_getting_a_lot_of_these/
/r/MensRights05/11/13 01:06 AM
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Lack of intelligence != autism. I (would like to) think you realize I use "autistic" not in the literal. Some people don't use faggot, rapist or pedophile literally either, but they use those terms to invoke negative stereotypes of men. My comment was that between "shitstain" and "autistic", it was ironic that the latter of the two actually has implications regarding an actual issue boys face, though now I see you were addressing a different issue.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:05 AM
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If you're not a troll then bravo. Because you're almost outdoing the known troll account /u/cannotFindWMD.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:39 PM
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This is essentially the problem with comments here. As long as the majority of the comment is logical, a "all woman are cunts" prefix will be given a pass. Yet it's insanely hypocritical. Someone merely mentioning they're a feminist invokes downvotes, regardless of how perfect their post is.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:32 PM
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As the MRM grows it will become more structured, more professional and gain a better public face. Notice how well an advocacy group like CAFE is recieved, community groups aren't afraid to fund it and funding for these issues is huge. People are so sensitive to attacks on women sometimes they'll genuinely percieve equal treatment as misogyny. That doesn't mean backing down on equal treatment, but it does mean you have to know damn well you'll be shredded if you ever do step over the line into mi…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:08 PM
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Please tell me you see the hypocrisy of calling people "autistic" while complaining about being called a "shitstain". You do realize that the perception of autism in boys is an MRA issue? http://www.salon.com/2013/09/21/thats_not_autism_its_simply_a_brainy_introverted_boy/
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:57 PM
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I'm done. Great. Couldn't be happier to see you go. You have repeatedly told people here to kill themselves, find somewhere else to do it.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:55 PM
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No kidding, and yet plenty here get offended at the smallest verbal slight a feminist makes against men. Going around calling people retarded or faggots doesn't help the perception of the MRM. If people want the MRM to be taken seriously about gender dynamics then it should take itself seriously.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 10:12 PM
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While this sub is generally good, there is some retarded shit that occurs. You know a lot of people find "retarded" to be an outdated and potentially offensive term. Just while we're on the topic of MR being percieved as "civilized MRM people".
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:55 PM
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She must be dumb as a plank given he already to a shot at her. But you're right, if you're not a huge guy it's far more likely to go down like this: http://youtu.be/giklG51wNyk?t=23s There's been a ton of talk about this video around reddit and about power differentials, but power differentials are never discussed when it's a smaller man being assaulted.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 11:30 AM
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The insults are because the internet MRA movement has made my life, as someone raped, tortured, and generally abused by multiple women, worse. I'm sorry to hear you feel that way. In what ways has it done that? In what ways do you think MRAs could have helped avoid that? It seems you're trying to paint MRAs with the same broad brush that the MRAs you're talking to are doing with feminists. But if you're advocating for the issues victimized men face, you're all good in my book regardless of any l…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:29 AM
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Well, you're getting upvoted? I mean all I can say is I'm doing the same thing, really I don't have a problem with you calling out hypocrisy - I support it, thanks. I just think if you're going to antagonize MRAs then do it with a real criticism, as soon as you sound like an SRS circlejerker your post is going to be ignored.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:17 PM
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I'm not really sure what invoked that but... male or female I'm obviously sorry to hear something like that. For the record I don't consider myself personally like that, feel free to call me out. Actually just earlier I commented that directly to you: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1prrfi/feminists_work_with_antigay_activist_group_to/cd5hihw?context=3
/r/MensRights03/11/13 10:56 AM
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Awesome, it's probably a sign from god I'm on reddit too much. Yeah, even if you wanted to a more fun option is just going to /r/TumblrInAction and joining in on the laughs.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 10:27 AM
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Criticizing feminists has one hidden benefit. Feminists are pretty powerful. They have a lot of organizations and can actually speak up on behalf of men. For example, in my country Rape Crisis helped an MRA speaker talk to students about male victims of sexual abuse. When MRAs shout and scream and do silly stuff, sometimes people take notice and help. Yeah, it often times seems like an uphill struggle. No-one's asking you to spend all day arguing against radfems, I'd even recommend against it fo…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 09:44 AM
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Deeply disappointing. Instead of focusing on any ways society might be stopping young girls from aspiring to these goals and letting the results happen from there, they're enforcing something that takes away from the achievement of grown women. Have a look at these graphs: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/graph/28634/women-in-parliament http://www.indexmundi.com/new_zealand/gender-parity-in-national-parliament.html NZ was the first country to give women the vote and has had two female Prime Ministers…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 09:30 AM
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You sound a little timid which is unfortunate but understandable. Don't be so apologetic! Don't you know, they say women apologizing for their opinion is often one way they sabotage their own leadership qualities. Try it like this next time. Seriously though, if you're a 21 year old female that sympathizes with MRA ideas from AVFM you're pretty much golden in my book. Good stuff. Feminism just represents a theory wide, in your face twisting of gender towards a game of "who has it worse", where t…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 09:11 AM
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Seriously great post, "Focus on protection and betterment" - I couldn't agree more. There is a real lack of talk about boys being able to protect themselves, they may not be on the line for 9 months of pregnancy but they are for 18 years of child support. By treating reproduction as the domain of women, men lose a sense of responsibility (edit: and vulnerability) that protects them.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 06:49 AM
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Listen if you're going to come in here and critique things that are incorrect then great, but leave the strawman arguments behind. MRAs are tired of hearing the "waaah men are opppressed!!" line, sit through this video and then stop it: http://youtu.be/ZR3HE-knTJU?t=55s
/r/MensRights03/11/13 06:32 AM
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That link is simply Marcotte stating she doesn't think TERFs count as feminists. I, and I'm sure you, disagree. That's like saying Christians and Muslims are the same thing because they're both Abrahamic religions. TERFs are a sect of feminism, they believe in the oppression of women but they have a fundamentally different view on sex and gender. To me it's just know your enemy, and TERFs represent the worst of feminism.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:38 AM
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I didn't say mainstream feminists aren't bigots I said Cathy Brennan doesn't represent mainstream feminism. TERFs represent a significant schism in terms of both gender theory and anti-sex/lesbian separatism oddities. It's funny because between you, me and Marcotte there's a kind of three way split - she doesn't think TERFs are feminists: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/25/there-is-no-such-thing-as-radical-feminism-anymore/
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:20 AM
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I don't see what the problem is. Cathy Brennan is a bigot and while she doesn't at all represent mainstream feminism she is fuelled by anti-male sentiments. The more people recognizing that for the betterment of the LGBT community the better.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 02:08 AM
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FYI demmian is also soronthur. He creates the feminist spaces he wants with moderation (and to be fair has made strides in the rules on debates and fair moderation, even if it's severely heavy handed) but the lack of feminists in those spaces is pretty telling.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:11 AM
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It’s close to parity with the choice women have—and fairness is a basic feminist value. Further, this system allows for women’s total reproductive autonomy and by doing so, we inherently advance women’s sexual and economic autonomy as well as strengthen feminism itself. This person sounds like the feminism I keep hearing about but never see, bravo. But I would post the caveat that without good sex education and promoting responsible relationships, creating a generation of single mothers and fath…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 12:14 AM
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No advice animals, rage comics, or other low-effort image posts.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 01:31 AM
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No advice animals, rage comics, or other low-effort image posts. Mods may remove these at their discretion.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 09:18 AM
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I agree, Feminism is bending to criticism and will continue to. With the MRM growing they don't have a choice, they either make attempts at men's issues or they aren't the equality movement they claim to be. They can only ignore it so long before the problems become obvious. Look at sites like The Good Men Project, or Kimmel's new Search Results Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities. The thing is, MRAs never have to be content with any of those. We can and should say "not good enough" al…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 07:55 AM
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His logic wouldn't make sense to a feminist but I'm sure he doesn't care. Anyway, in a frame that consistently comes down to gender itself being oppressive to women, and all solutions to gendered problems - including men's problems -then are focused on women. You see this everywhere when discussing men's issues with feminists, "Oh but we're going to solve that! It'll fix itself once women are no longer being treated as sex objects!". Not only is it naive to think that would happen if the basis w…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 07:44 AM
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I haven't read it but yeah from the synopsis it certainly sounds like a "men are bastards" fantasy.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 05:28 AM
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What are the laws like in the US? Lack of discussion about paternity leave really seems like a huge flaw in feminist reasoning. If they truly want more women in the workforce, why are they so quiet about getting men involved in childcare and caring roles? I know it's out there, but every time I see it discussed (for example here) it's seems exclusively concerned with women with no real action for men. In NZ a father/partner can get up to 2 weeks of unpaid leave. Parental leave is up to a year (u…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 02:48 AM
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They do, but in that scene the concept could potentially be "radical feminists are bad but motivated by personal grief" - which is still trying to excuse radfems, but is different from "radical feminists are good and right". According to the synopsis the main character is protesting that quote, which is said by a secondary character. I don't doubt that the book was very anti-male. But that image is incredibly misleading. As I said, the main characters in American History X are for the most part …
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:42 PM
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Oh I definitely agree that both Dworkin and Mackinnon effectively said that within their works, in fact as it seems the quote that is on the image is from a authors criticizing that exact position. What's on the image isn't a quote from her though. That quote for some reason to me is even worse than the one in the image because it's trying to muddy heterosexual sex into a quagmire of women's experience. I'd rather someone tell me "all sex is rape" than "you may or may not be raping your partner"…
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:32 PM
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Lol. I read that Jezebel article today... yet it surprises me not even a little that they got it backward. They do some of the poorest reporting on studies I have seen.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:36 AM
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Oh yeah, I was definitely meaning the simple verb slander rather than any US defamation law or anything.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 09:00 AM
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This show is has been going fantastically. Both the men and women calling in last time had some great things to say.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:46 AM
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Just because it’s relevant, I noted that here in New Zealand 40 per cent of the 1,200 men and boys helped by MSSAT (Male Survivors of Sexual Abuse Trust) in 2010 were sexually abused by women when they were boys. http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10911 The MSSAT has done a bit of reasearch in this area, released before the CDC report: http://www.survivor.org.nz/research-page/
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:45 AM
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I'm always happy to learn! I did not know there was such a clear distinction between the two. There's always been that weird thing on the internet where everyone says... well "says" instead of writes.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 08:15 AM
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I assume this is sarcasm? If so... firstly, if you did I'd be the first to defend you when someone claimed they were quotes from you. Secondly since you haven't read "The Women's Room" you can't assume the context of that character or the book (edit: and they are not the main character). Here is the plot outline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Women%27s_Room While at college, Val's daughter, Chris, is raped. Following the rape of her daughter, Val states (over Mira's protests), "Whatever they …
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:53 AM
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What do you know, the Marilyn French one is false too. At one point in the book the character Val says "all men are rapists".[3] This quote has often been incorrectly attributed to Marilyn French herself. French's first book was a thesis on James Joyce.[1] www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_French Some days this sub really sucks. Hopefully the mods will tag it as misleading.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 07:28 AM
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http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp Too late now though, you've already stuck it on a massive card and put it on the internet. If I was you I would delete this post as it is inaccurate and effectively slander.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 06:59 AM
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Great little story, very fair though MRAs were only responding to accusation and did not really get to discuss men's issues. Paul is really tall! Oh and White Ribbon promotes positive masculinity? Please, tell me what's positive for men about this.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:20 AM
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I think it's actually good. Feminists are claiming that society hates and devalues women, acknowledging male disposability is a positive.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:05 AM
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Spreading these things around for the purpose of educating others on demonizing male sexuality just makes it worse for the kid. Crappy siblings are a pretty gender neutral event anyway.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 08:02 AM
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Archetypal modern woman? Sounds more like archetypal bitter PUA trying to paint all women in the most negative narrative possible, much like feminists do to men.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:36 AM
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Equality of Opportunity, Not Outcome: Equality of outcome must stem from ensuring equality of opportunity, not by artificial corrections that mask existing inequalities. [No affirmative action] And what if I disagree with this? Am I therefore not an MRA? You talk about breaking down walls, which to me is clearly affirmative action. I am for example against quotas of any kind, but ok with gender specific programs for children. What if the lack of male teachers is so critical to raising children t…
/r/MensRights25/10/13 09:21 PM
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I agree with what you're saying, I suppose the question mark is aimed at the feminist assertions that that caveat is needed. If you leave the question unasked, people may fill in their own blanks with "doesn't matter because men rule the world."
/r/MensRights23/10/13 08:15 PM
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I don't see what's wrong with this. Men do run the world, they are the majority of leaders in the vast majority of hierarchical roles. That just doesn't equate to men as a class being privileged.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 11:28 AM
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It's a bit disingenuous to put those beside each other though. Feminists would probably create one with beaten and raped women besides men complaining that they can't call women sluts any more. But that's just the leftoid in me speaking. Because on the other hand this sub does not talk enough about men as the victims of conflict women are absolved from - war being the most egregious example. For democracy, for human rights, for god damn oil... fuck it, have an upvote.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 11:09 AM
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Some feminists argue that girl-on-girl bullying is the result of internalized misogyny, of a patriarchal culture that pits girls and women against each other. But what about boys who abuse and bully other boys? For women it's internalized misogyny, for men it's toxic masculinity. Just like for women it's benevolent sexism, but for men it's male privilege. Really impartial terms they've come up with, right? Even the name feminism promotes a skew that does not befit a gender equality movement. Cat…
/r/MensRights22/10/13 09:34 AM
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Eh - veils are a piece of clothing, they may be associated with a religion but are not inherent to it. The original charter seemed to be banning certain items of religious significance - a pretty draconian and westernized effort. It's really about choice, and while I agree religious people very much limit choice by indoctrination, you could say the same about men wearing pants instead of skirts. As long as the women behind the veil are happy and well (and there are certainly reasons as to why cl…
/r/MensRights20/10/13 11:02 AM
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These posts are just higlighting the humanity of women that feminists have left unspoken. If a girl won a prestigious maths prize, would you think it strange to see that in a feminist subreddit? While the mods have considered dropping the "women behaving badly" posts, they are for the moment still here as a way to raise consciousness on female offending. Why would this be important? Well for example several studies now show that women receive lighter sentencing than men in the criminal system. I…
/r/MensRights20/10/13 10:00 AM
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Amazing that in 2013 these inequalities exist, as it says "that’s of course absurd". Really good article. If there were more men's advocacy groups out there this sort of stuff would be brought to light faster. If the women's organizations are more interested in the wording of "minor" vs. "person" than they have about boys being raped by female pedophiles then that isn't doing the job. They may be doing good work but boys are only tangentially getting benefits.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 08:00 AM
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Can I ask which country are you from? Don't worry if you'd rather not say.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 06:01 AM
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So while females possibly self harm more often This really was all I was saying though. I am definitely aware of the seriousness of men's issues surrounding bodily harm in general. one common cause is a lack of care for one own well being This seems kind of troubling to me, I do nothing think self harm is something to be trivialized. Self harm - like eating disorders, drug addiction, etc - is a common signs of the inability to deal with anxiety/stress/trauma, the root problem is not they don't c…
/r/MensRights20/10/13 05:52 AM
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It's worth recognizing that it affects women more. But you're right, with a 7% difference there is no reason that an effort should be gendered.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 03:48 AM
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Entitlement & solipsism are the opiate of women I could tell you were from TheRedPill even without your username. Tell me, if you care so much about people using negative stereotypes about men, why are you using negative stereotypes about women?
/r/MensRights20/10/13 02:39 AM
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does NOT have an overlap with feminist thought. Feminist thought and traditional thought are indeed different, but that does not mean they do not overlap in some capacity. Feminist thought is that women are strong and don't need protecting. Then explain every feminist domestic violence campaign ever. I realize you are likely a feminist poster and I don't want to be antagonistic with you because I am obviously questioning the very core beliefs of feminism. Three popular MRAs actually discussed th…
/r/MensRights19/10/13 04:09 PM
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Neither "Femininity = misogyny" nor "femininity = misandry" would go down well with a feminist. And they certainly don't gather women together to ever discuss how they are capable of abusing men and themselves through femininity. I don't feel as though it's going to be represented well since they start if off by saying that masculinity = misogyny. That would also be my feelings. I watched a video, it sounds like regardless of gender politics he is attempting to help young men which is a great th…
/r/MensRights19/10/13 12:44 AM
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female logic Yeah, the person speaking is a man. "Female logic" is a misogynist term, you sound like a feminist talking about "mansplaining".
/r/MensRights19/10/13 12:43 AM
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I don't think it's not worth speculating on. The video is shot without context from either party. The situation is ambiguous, if she was under the influence of a date rape drug for example that would change things. If she had previously asked him to do it then that would change things. We don't know.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 10:48 PM
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I try and stay away from the hard frame of a "male performer" and "female object" regarding sex acts but I understand what you mean. But as far as reporting, the idea that a woman can be coerced into engaging in a sex act through intoxication but a man cannot is so ingrained that we view even the most intoxicated male fully responsible for his actions no matter what an external party does to him. Pieces of reporting like this engrain views of women as having little to no agency, and men as respo…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 10:45 PM
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What is amazing is that they are so concerned with the woman's welfare, yet care nothing for the young man. What if he was too drunk to make good decisions? What if he deeply regretted what he did? What if she was more sober than him? I can't believe that statement "It was rape, she reported it to the police as rape", as if this senior can ruin a young man's life. She says "the most traumatic experience of her life" - but I imagine someone falsely accusing you of rape on television would be fair…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:59 PM
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Actually the video was from a news station, have a look.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:55 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being feminine. The kid has disgusting opinions. So does the maker of the video. Don't mind me though, off to "practice witchcraft" now.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:49 PM
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MR is generally quite split on the issue. The majority would say no. I personally am fine with gentle affirmative action meaures, scholarships and campaigns. I don't endorse quotas or hiring practices, at that point you should be standing on your own. One example I'd give is the lack of men in early teaching. Kids can go all the way from early childcare through to highschool without ever having a male teacher, and if that child is fatherless that may mean having no positive male role models what…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 09:44 PM
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Fantastic smackdown. Won't stop feminists using these tactics but we need to get the word out regardless. I've tried many times to present feminists with another frame of view on gender dynamics, but it's just like being Sisyphus. That rock will never stay at the top of the mountain, it has to roll down one oppressive side. The idea that women are not oppressed is the critical point to all of feminism, so nothing will make them revoke that. And if you do accept that, then they can justify litera…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:52 AM
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This was a really great article. Especially the from female potency down. Men are expected to see female sexual aggression as meaningless, ineffectual, just being part of life. Who as a man are you going to complain to? You're just supposed to deal with it, often there is no "speaking up" about it because most don't believe it's something to speak up about. We rightly hear tragic stories about female victims are told that their victimization was their own fault and could have been prevented by w…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:08 AM
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There are better sites than that if all people want is to rage at female sex offenders there's sites like: http://interested-participant.blogspot.fi http://badbadteachers.munsyke.com/
/r/MensRights18/10/13 07:40 AM
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Yeah it's unfortunate. I have a similar list of links of varying types, and I'm sure others do too. Maybe there's a better way to collect them into something cohesive, I'm surethe collective knowledge about studies in MR is a lot more than we think.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 06:01 AM
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Register-her? Really? Is anyone still supporting that?
/r/MensRights18/10/13 06:00 AM
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Australia seems to be doing some great things, they have them started in NZ but it's not as organized as this. And they do good things for the community, build playgrounds for kids, fix toys, help locals out... really selfless and caring men. And what do you know? Women are able to join too.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 05:48 AM
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It means that some of those tweets were legitimate criticisms of her commentary, and yet she dismissed them as male privilege without countering them. The fact that fundamentalist christians talk to ThunderFoot in a given manner does not entail that it is permissible for others to do so. The fact that others do x does not make x permissible, good or justifiable. I agree, but there is a gender dynamic here that must be recognized which is that she is relying on her gender privilege (i.e. pedastal…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 12:14 AM
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Yes, but clearly sneaking legitimate criticisms in with insults is disengenous. And more importantly that is not a higher level of abuse that someone like ThunderF00t or so on would get from fundementalist Christians.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 08:37 PM
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It's deeply stupid feminist 101. DAE think women earning 77c to the dollar is unfair?!? She should ask herself, do men have equal rights to women? I watched some of her videos the other day, she's pushing for the ERA... HOLY FUCK SHE'S GOT $100,000. Mind boggling. Anyway, the ERA would abolish a gender specific draft and she talks about this in one of her videos. It's painfully obvious why hrm, a shame that she didn't mention Phyllis Schlafly defeated the ERA with a campaign called "Stop Taking …
/r/MensRights17/10/13 07:03 AM
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Anyone else find it funny that a top feminist academic is making a similar argument that is currently being mocked in SRD?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 06:51 AM
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I just want to remind everyone about what she considers abuse: http://femfreq.tumblr.com/post/52673540142/twitter-vs-female-protagonists-in-video-games Yes, this poor woman has been subjected to comments such as "Stop pushing your feminist agend in video games" and "shut up". edit: To those in AMR, come down and debate me like a real woman.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 06:10 AM
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Did I hear sammiches? Wish I was Canadian now.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 06:44 AM
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Sweet, sorry if I came off as hostile - for the record I kind of like this one better but that's just me. Maybe /u/garybuseyscomeback can provide you with help as he mentioned.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 05:46 AM
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I both agree and disagree with what you're saying. You're kind of side stepping the issue by saying "men are not authority figures because authority figures don't actually exist, they are all obligated to the people". I agree that the people put in positions of power mainly do so because they are a servant of the people, just like men are socially obligated to provide for their families. People can get into power and still abuse their power, but lets put that aside and focus on a working democra…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 04:38 AM
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Simply being a majority of elected officials does not mean we live in a patriarchy. Listen though, that is exactly what I'm saying. The word patriarchy literally means the majority of authority figures are male and anything beyond that is feminist socialogical theory. You are accepting the extended definition of patriarchy (big P "Patriarchy") meaning "a system that favours men" as the definitive version of the word - a defintion that infers that because a minority of men hold authoritative posi…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 03:35 AM
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Patriarchy is a social system in which males are the primary authority figures central to social organization, occupying roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property, and where fathers hold authority over women and children. As far as that definition is concerned, i.e. rule of the father, it is fact. Men are the majority of politicians, law makers, authority figures, control of property etc, and those are quantitative measures. My mistake before though, I capitalized p…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 02:58 AM
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Yeah that's fair enough. But rather than "doesn't carry any societal power" (because it does have objective results), I would say a simple definition is closer to "reinforces patriarchal structures". Like throwing your dog a biscuit to teach it tricks to behave. The more radical the feminist, the more likely they are to see expressions of gender as oppressive, all the way down to gender abolitionist radfems view that gender itself is oppression. I would prefer "benevolent sexism" is privilege. P…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:15 PM
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Definitely, people like when a face is put to a cause. From your post history it seems like you're fairly new to this, so just keep it simple.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:57 AM
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Women get in free, men pay the cover but get to enjoy a cool club with plenty of women, everybody wins. You can't be serious, clearly this scenario only "potentially" benefits a small percentage of men willing to pay - not "everybody". Also, you're making the assumption that culture regarding men and women is unchangeable. I live in NZ and I don't think anyone would put up with a $40 gendered price discrepancy. Worst case the bouncers just get irrationally choosy about a guys choice of shoes, bu…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:47 AM
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There's information in the wikipedia article for California, there is precedence for it being successful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies%27_night $40 for guys?! Jesus. A lot of these places will use tactics to get around it (i.e., anyone wearing makeup gets free drinks) but it's entirely likely that you can stamp some of it out if you have the fortitude.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:40 AM
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These are fantastic photos of natural bodies, better than any Cosmo magazine that's for sure. Something like this looks like it's straight out of some kind of feminist body acceptance article.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:30 AM
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Bob Geldoff's documentary has some good stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZDBOH2Hdz8 CAFE has some good stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhpcYHBo3g&list=PL4NvroQMCiyyVkArhdhECZHwl97Q5OFL5 Just stabbing in the dark, not sure what you're after.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:06 AM
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What any guy should do is stand up walk away and call the cops. That's what victims of domestic violence should do, but they rarely do. Lack of money, no auxiliary residence, social isolation, judgement, shame, guilt, kids, obligations, etc. and the fact that abusive relationships are just that, relationships, make that something quite difficult for people to do.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:38 AM
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Really great article, thanks for posting acta.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:21 AM
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I don't think you understand the concept of "benevolent sexism"... or at least, I'm confused by your usage of it, it's quite unclear.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:12 AM
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Nah you don't want that, being a non badass allows you to enjoy cat pictures guilt free.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 06:55 AM
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You're far too nice! Most redditors seem to steal and repost original content...
/r/MensRights15/10/13 06:03 AM
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There's a great tumblr about egalitarianism and space on public transport parodying that site... damn wish I could find it now. I know there's also: http://movethefuckoversis.tumblr.com/ But either way... don't take creepshots of people.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 12:53 AM
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To be honest I wish people would just stop paying attention to them, their mask slips further every day, they are out to troll and not much more. There is no substance behind the offence.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 10:02 AM
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Brilliant article, very well written. Didn't resort to any hyperbole but made the defiance against ignoring the issues men and boys face clear.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 05:04 AM
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Why do you people always downvote me? Because you make the same offensive sweeping generalizations of women that feminists make about men. Some of the most notable MRAs are women, and some of the worst feminists implementing structures that disadvantage men are men.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 05:02 AM
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Luckily this happened just the other day OP: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1o2lae/any_boys_or_men_out_there_who_were_sexually/ Some of the stories are about sexual assault, others rape. edit: I should say, you show a lot of insight about having a voice to speak up about this. And by speaking up for and defending those who are victims or at risk of victimization you are everything feminism should want. A really strong young woman, so thank you.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 06:04 AM
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The more I read of Hannah Rosin, the less she seems to know what she's talking about. Seems more like she got the idea her "women are taking over" spiel is good for controversy and she's milking it for all it's worth.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 03:04 AM
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/u/fucktard99 is living up to their name. I see /u/FEMAcampcounselor has emerged from their dank circlejerk for once too - be careful, you can't ban people outside of AMR!
/r/MensRights12/10/13 02:47 AM
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Don't bring the content of this sub down.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 11:48 PM
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Nice video, shame about the article.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 10:53 PM
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Come on people, don't downvote just because of the username. He's right, that website is trash. You wouldn't put up with a site decrying modern males. edit: Also I see regular calls to ban links to TheGoodMenProject of all things for being "too feminist", so there's a pretty big discrepancy when people are sticking up for links to anti-women sites but not anti-male ones.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 09:59 PM
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You're assuming it's a her.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 09:58 PM
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Almost a third of MR identifies as democrat, whereas few identify as republican. Perhaps your wildy divisive and partisan "liberals are bad people" rehtoric belongs somewhere else.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 12:23 AM
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It's the same in New Zealand, although we have an excellent government program to provide assistance to victims of sexual abuse 80% of those coming forward are women and girls, there are men and boys missing out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Xisb1V0OY
/r/MensRights10/10/13 08:35 PM
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How? edit: Was it you I discussed this with last time? I can't remember. I'm the first to agree that it shows women in power seemed to rate female staff worse.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 08:07 PM
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people have no come back. I've also noticed that. I've never really had a response from any feminist about the double standard.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:52 AM
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I got: "Men should serve women" (4th result) "men's rights activists are stupid/retarded" (so insults on both sides) "gay men should all be put to death" and "all women should be lesbians" (for the prompt gay men/lesbian women should be) "guys are stupid" and "girls are better than boys" (both 1st results for girls/guys are) It sure is easy to promote a bias when you know what to search.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:43 AM
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Hey there's no need to tell someone to go fuck themselves for asking a question either, I've seen feminists do that plenty too. You got your point across great in the first two sentences.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:32 AM
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Message the admins at /r/reddit.com. I had my ban revoked, it's likely you will too if you were not involved in any suspicious voting.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:30 AM
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I have no more problem with this than I do promoting boys education in the areas they are failing so badly at. There is real discrimination against women in STEM, I wouldn't want the women in my life to be subject to it and so small privately funded measures like this shouldn't be seen as threatening to MRAs. It's the lack of equal funding for boys that's the problem. I wish MRAs would get upset about that instead of trying to take funding away from girls.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 10:07 AM
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Great blog, thanks for your writings - I will be reading.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 08:27 AM
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I actually thought this article was great. Fantastic. Up until 5, where it takes a gynocentric nose dive so sharp I had to look away before it plunged into the abyss. It's awful that even when facing the problems of young boys, they prioritize the affect on girls.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 08:18 AM
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Truly shocking that people feel this way about boys and can display it so openly. What an incredibly hateful thing to say, good on Peter Lloyd for standing up to this and speaking out. Good luck to him in his court case.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 09:35 AM
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Read the article.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 09:34 AM
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A lot of people in here are flailing the "DON'T GET MARRIED" and "PRE-NUPS ARE USELESS" flags but that's missing a larger point. In NZ, if you are in a long term relationship deemed serious by the courts (i.e. is longer than 3 years), it doesn't matter whether you're married or not. They'll still get half your assets. http://www.justice.govt.nz/courts/family-court/what-family-court-does/property#fc4 So yes, pre-nups are a good idea. A better idea? Pick your long term partners carefully, look for…
/r/MensRights08/10/13 09:30 AM
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I really don't understand why even highly educated people feel the need to conflate lust and bonding chemicals/impulses with some higher state of mind. Because being a depressive antisocial nihilist is worse than any divorce.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 09:18 AM
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"Now I'm not saying we should be disengenous... but we need to avoid the whole truth because it doesn't really fit with what feminism is saying and we can't demonize MRAs with it."
/r/MensRights07/10/13 08:45 AM
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Nah my fault for being insensitive, I've been shooting comments from the hip far too much these days.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 10:21 PM
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Actually I was meaning that as referring to you as a man, i.e. just like you care about men's issues because you're a man, women do too through the men that they know :)
/r/MensRights05/10/13 08:44 PM
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Posting here to say good post and I find it interesting. I think the experiences of trans men are not heard enough in the gender sphere and LGBT communities. While feminism is certainly probably the most open towards supporting LBGT people, feminist theory has some significant shortcomings from trans people of both genders because they enforce the view that women are an oppressed class and men are the oppressors. I keep heart by knowing that in the end, you just can't hold 50% of the population …
/r/MensRights05/10/13 07:58 AM
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Great post. I should say however that I think that of the two sociatal views on trans women are not so aligned to a particular faction. Have you experienced some kind of "man up" views from the MRM? I have only heard negativity towards "manning up" from the majority of MRAs. I can understand where you're coming from, but I hope you would never feel negative about transitioning because of "accessing female privilege". Everyone deserves to be treated with the kinds of respect women get.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 07:16 AM
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I was loving this article when I read it and was hoping to post it here. But it slowly slides into feminist theory at the end and tries to make girls the victims of the suffering of boys. Stuff like: No wonder some men are able to go through life never once considering what it’s like to be a woman or why it matters. is insulting - do women truly go through life understanding what it's like to be a man or why, in comparison? ....but now you are gone, maybe you really were a ghost.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 06:53 AM
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Right now over here there is a thread comparing being transgender to being a serial killer, or giegerwasright down the bottom of the thread comparing being transgender to sexual paraphilias. How are those protesters fears not validated by this? If MRAs want to feel good about themselves for being so enlightened and caring to trans men they better realize that's more than patting yourself on the back while ignoring this kind of anti-LGBT underbelly. Feminists pay lip service to men but they don't…
/r/MensRights02/10/13 12:56 AM
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Did you even read the tumblr page?
/r/MensRights01/10/13 11:32 PM
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Yes you're right about that disctinction, and... unbelivable you had to go through that. I was reading a similar thing about the British poet Ted Hughes who was picketed by feminists and had death threats made against him based on nothing but rumours of domestic violence. Likewise the vast amount of "abuse" Anita Sarkeesian faced on twitter was nothing more than humourous quips and insults.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 08:38 PM
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That's being berated verbally though.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 11:07 AM
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Oh absolutely, as I said "it is used in the most vitriolic situations from the offenders viewpoint, not in frivolous ones" and that will always look bad.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:32 AM
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CAFE is light years ahead of AVfM. Agreed. We need more organizations like CAFE.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 12:28 AM
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Should be a reminder that everyone should be given a fair chance to voice themselves on men's issues, and you shouldn't jump to assumptions just because they sound like a caricature of an uber-liberal tumblr kid. edit: Also don't get deluded that MRAs don't do this. You have to seriously stand up against abuse if you want OP to be telling the truth. Case in point: "Go blow your fucking brains out you worthless piece of sub human man hating shit."
/r/MensRights01/10/13 12:24 AM
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I see a lot of duplicitous statements here, antagonistic junk, covert racism, dehumanizing of women, anti-LGBT sentiment etc. Yet I also see great things. Supporting victims of sexual abuse, vocal opposition and action against to anti-male sentiments, fundraising for good causes, speaking out about violence against men, countering stereotypes and false statistics etc. The MRM isn't a monolith, but the inner monolith should be making an effort to crush anyone who doesn't truly care about men and …
/r/MensRights01/10/13 12:20 AM
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I have mixed feelings on it, you can read about it here if you're interested. tl;dr - Are you offended by the word dick?
/r/MensRights01/10/13 12:11 AM
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That's because you are the anything bad, at least I have trouble believing you're not a troll exactly like /u/cannotFindWMD turned out to be given that your posts are of similar content. If the content of your posts are the same as a feminist parody of men's rights, and you're getting rained with downvotes for pro-male ideas in MR that should be telling you something. Just go to /r/theredpill. They also love talking about how young girls are "luring old pervert men into even more moral corruptio…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 12:09 AM
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Hope you continue to as well, thanks for discussing men's issues on your site.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 12:02 AM
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That's a pretty fine hair to split, I'm sure all traditionalists think they're doing the right thing. But interesting to hear, I do understand where you're coming from.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 10:36 AM
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It's correlated with mental disorders and being a victim of abuse. Despite all the rage, most are not monsters and with better mental health services can be helped. Unsurprisingly, men who are abused as children also face social problems.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 10:15 AM
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I'm fine with it. Sometimes it can help if you have mentors who you can identify with. Likewise I'm fine with men's centers, men in early childcare and nursing meetups, single fathers events etc. edit: I should say though, that I only consider this acceptable in areas with extreme gender disparities. I don't support women only gyms for example.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:55 AM
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Hoping for negative things to happen so you can feel good is the epitome of a backwards movement. My perfect MRA moment is where I see young men are express themselves freely and no-one disrespects them for not acting masculine enough.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:49 AM
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Demonspawn No way, Demonspawn is a traditionalist.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 07:04 AM
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You can prove them wrong, isn't hard to do. Black men face men's issues, gay men face men's issues, women's rights are important.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 09:57 AM
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That was Hanna Rosin. I saw some supportive comments for her as well, but yeah could always go better.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 07:44 AM
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Great news, boys education is such an important issue and since CHS is the only one shouting about it I hope she takes all the platforms she can.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 07:43 AM
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Great news thanks for the update. I would certainly hope a men's center would cater for transgender issues as many of them are the same that men are disproportionately affected by.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 04:45 AM
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You don't need to believe me, meta-analysis released this year back it up: "The most comprehensive review of the scholarly domestic violence research literature ever conducted concludes, among other things, that women perpetrate physical and emotional abuse, as well as engage in control behaviors, at comparable rates to men." http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/5/prweb10741752.htm You just need to realize that women aren't as pathetic and weak as you believe them to be, and that your views about …
/r/MensRights29/09/13 12:09 AM
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Shaming doesn't work on me because admitting that someone has sexually or physically abused you is not shameful. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8897510/Embarrassment-barrier-for-abused-men
/r/MensRights28/09/13 11:57 PM
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You're absolutely right. Feminists should care. They should be angry about this. But since feminism is about women, not equality, the only thing you're going to get is lots of lip service that it's wrong.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 11:42 PM
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And if the men on this subreddit would ever seek refuge from women in a shelter, you are some pitiful men. Man up right? Grow some balls? Stop being a faggot? Heard it all before mate, hasn't helped any men deal with the abuse and suffering they've faced in their lives.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 11:36 PM
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Tbh, to me the suffering of men, and dating issues should be addressed separately even if they are linked. Oh please yes. All this dating/redpill/pua stuff is inherently antagonistic and prone to bias, it breeds resentment between men and women not anything positive. Fighting for victims of abuse, discriminatory laws, court systems etc. is tangentially related but should not be part of what mens rights activism.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:45 AM
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MGTOWs are the closest kind of separatism and a decent analogy. Men are severly chastised for any signs of homosexuality, it is not a viable option socially even if men were up for it.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:40 AM
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Are you at Stonybrook? Just read anything by someone who is not a feminist like Kimmel. To stop appearing contrarian, you should show that you do hold care and compassion for boys - that your position comes not from contrarianism, but from genuinely thinking it's the wrong solution. I would stay away from the biological aspect, you will win nothing by trying to argue that with feminists. Instead stick to the cultural influences that women are privileged to experience which men do not receive. Ki…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 03:01 AM
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Good to hear, I have heard positive things about men's issues being present in Norway, given that they are really pushing gender equality it makes sense they would eventually have to face men's issues.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 12:53 AM
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Fucking lol, I was going to re-write that into a more eloquent response but you got me WAY-bot. Basically it's unfair to demean women and portray men as superior, especially given the large amount of men who agree with white ribbons campaign.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 09:54 PM
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Whoops - my comment was valid but I actually misread your post, I agree your example seems well put.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 01:28 PM
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Watch their video, their gender equality is a joke. It's focused entirely on women. Seriously, earlier this year it was said that in Australia less than 6 percent of early childcare roles are taken by men. Do they care about that need? Do they truly care about men and the workplace discrimination they face? Beyond belief. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/more-men-needed-to-work-in-childcare-industry-to-balance-female-dominated-workforce/story-e6frea83-1226590242976
/r/MensRights27/09/13 01:04 PM
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I've really been enjoying the honey badger radio, even though I can never figure out when it is live. All the best to those attending the Toronto events.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 11:40 AM
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This comment is to state that I am no longer making personal anecdotes or giving out information about my IRL person, family, friends etc. Please don't be offended as this is not about trusting other redditors as it is about protecting myself from a small few.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 11:01 AM
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Great stuff, had quite a few examples of men being abused in the media. I've had some disagreements with bitchmagazine in the past but this really improved my spirits about the topic.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 10:45 AM
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Hey kids, can't we get along for men?
/r/MensRights27/09/13 10:14 AM
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Really good news, I think this talk and event will be important for Canadian men. In their email they said they had "raised nearly $35,000 toward our Campaign to Establish the Canadian Centre for Men and Families", which is heartwarming to hear.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 10:12 AM
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True, but there's also a difference between allowing women to do something and making them do it. Suddenly, the discussions on quotas disappear.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 10:01 AM

Brilliant, out with entirely gender specific campaigns. a variety of man who is so incapable of sitting quietly and respectfully while problems facing women are discussed that he must immediately chime in with how said issue also affects men This is the opposite of "why can't women just be quiet when the men are speaking about manly things?" It is men’s responsibility to create spaces to discuss men’s issues, Jesus christ stop saying feminism is about equality then. When men's center are propose…
/r/MensRights27/09/13 06:45 AM
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You're not wrong. But western MRAs also don't know anything about Asia, it's hard to vouch for issues when the only information you have about them is that their countries are stricken with poverty and desolation.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 11:08 AM
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Having healthy and respectful relationships is important - women sometimes are the ones to unwrap condoms too you know.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 11:05 AM
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In New Zealand, the laws were not the same until 2005: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10652961&pnum=0 MRAs approached the Government in 1998 and it took a long time to get any action on it.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 11:00 AM
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You know at the start I really disagreed when he focused on the "it's not your fault" statement. But as he went on, I could see he was genuinely coming from a place where he thought the best way to help people. I don't think he understood however that victims (not potential victims) tend to blame themselves for rape and not come forward about it, thus letting serial rapists go.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 10:48 AM
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For a second I thought suicide was being auto-linked like on those dictionary sites... such a good job /u/WodensEye, thanks for this write up. The pamphlet was pretty poorly done. Their DV claim of course would never include how many men felt they lashed out defense either.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 08:14 AM
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Fantastic article. As Shelley puts it, "the premise is still, 'Men are the problem" rather than "Men have problems." That's a huge issue with feminist analysis of men. It's far too much of a dangerous stepping stone to "do women cause any problems for men?"
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:55 AM
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It's unfortunate citations are so ugly... you can use QR codes for posters but yeah, I suppose it makes sense for facebook style posts. One criticism: The use of male privilege kind of targets it towards feminists, if you made it "What's it like to be a man?" then it's more facebook friendly. Otherwise good job IAN! In some places like Uganda or Brazil, homocide is >90% male victims. http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/Homicide/Homicides_by_sex.xls
/r/MensRights26/09/13 06:52 AM
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Yeah I agree, but there are a lot of confounding variables surrounding divorce courts and custody. When it comes to criminal court for example, there is definitely a sentencing disparity. Really the infograph is about dispelling male privilege as a unilateral concept. I don't understand how feminists can make that point while simultaneously saying the wage gap is evidence of discrimination.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 06:46 AM
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Because he was anti-male, the epitome of a powerful man who consciously decides to sell out other men for his and women's benefit.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 10:46 AM
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Nothing says “equality” and “empowerment” quite like getting boned by your college women’s studies professor.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 10:44 AM
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Wow I did not know about that site/group, good to see MRAs sticking together for men even if they don't see eye to eye on everything.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 10:32 AM
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Actually it got 1648 in TwoX, with a reader count of 150k. Counting the two threads on MRs front page it has 672, with a subscriber count of 80k. The main thing I think is that to get to the top of a sub (and therefore mega-expoential upvotes) takes velocity. MR posts content about men being victims of sexual assault and rape constantly.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 09:13 AM
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Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I have my own gripes with GMP.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 07:42 AM
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I do - well, at least I haven't yet skipped one of those threads when I've seen them. edit: For example of a random recent comment.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 05:10 AM
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Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Xisb1V0OY MRAs are the leading activists on this.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 01:16 AM
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Here's one reason. /r/mensrights prefers studies about sexual assault or current events. This is a more emotional post about number of men's personal experiences. It's still a very importantant post, but MRAs already know men are victims of rape. The important story here for me for example is "buzzfeed acknowledges male victims of rape".
/r/MensRights25/09/13 01:14 AM
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Really brave of them.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 01:10 AM
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If only they accepted women traditionally have the power to abuse men without facing consequences.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:46 PM
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Everyone here complains that feminists aren't pushing women into dangerous jobs, and yet MRAs are the only ones I ever see trying to push them out of them. If the woman can do the job, then she's fine by me.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 12:25 PM
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"Feminist media critics" are like magicians of intellectual dishonesty, and their main trick is making male suffering disappear.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 12:19 PM
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The sub is called /r/mensrights, not /r/whiterights. This isn't the place to inject your discussions on race.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:51 AM
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Have to say, pretty sick of people ragging on GMP regardless of the content of the post, but when those anti-gay sites like nativecanadian were being posted or memes linked to anti-race mixing propaganda from /pol/, then all of a sudden it's ok to forget the context and focus on the content.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 11:49 AM
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Can we have a bot that detects reddit links? I think SRD automatically removes posts that don't use np.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 09:38 AM
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Perfect example of entitlement to a man's body, and how he's expected to deal with it. Obviously way over the line, way over a personal boundary even for a comedian and completely unprofessional. It sounds stupid even stating that.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 09:35 AM
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I think the important thing is that it's about respect. Feminists want men to respect women and ask for clear consent, they need to realize what a world where women have to respect men's sexuality looks like.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 09:14 AM
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Well /u/cannotFindWMD certainly turned out that way. In any case, if you're having trouble getting any karma in MR then I think it's safe to say you're a rather extreme person.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 12:10 AM
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I think they meant Alisdair_ is a troll, not you!
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:18 PM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:05 PM
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Best of luck!
/r/MensRights23/09/13 11:09 AM
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And what do they blame the startling anecdotal evidence on? "Macho culture". What even is macho culture in a place where 60% are women? I'm tired of seeing "macho/masculine/man's" culture thrown around for no reason. Would they ever call it a "slut culture"? Do women have literally no influence on culture even when they're a large majority? Just who are the people pulling the strings?
/r/MensRights23/09/13 11:08 AM
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Are you from Norway? If so would you be able to give an overview of how men's issues are being tackled in your country? I have heard Norway is one of the most gender equal in the world, and from recent things posted by MRAs it seems that some work of the Ministry of Equality does goes towards benefiting men.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:57 AM
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I don't see a problem with that. If you marry someone, you're basically entering a contract to start a family. No you're not, you're entering in a contract to become life partners. How about this - when men and women have sex they are entering in a contract that a baby could be produced. Therefore the woman should not be able to abort the baby if the man does not want her to. Would you agree to this logic? Most people do not, her body, her choice. Likewise a woman will have choices in who her se…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:54 AM
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Woah you sure told him you big alpha dog, lol men who want to be fathers amirite?
/r/MensRights23/09/13 09:46 AM
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I think it is irresponsible rubbish.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 08:06 AM
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There are tons, their issues are the same as everyone elses. Most of them don't make a big fuss about being women because there's not much need to.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 08:03 AM
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Well as feminists describe anything gendered and negative towards women as misogyny, some MRAs do the same with misandry. It is the negative side of gender roles for men, systematically reinforcing the acceptability of violence against men. Thanks for posting though.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 06:50 AM
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They're mutants just like people born without arms or eyes or that thing that makes you look like Reptile in Mortal Kombat. This is basically what a radfems say about testosterone and men. I don't have much to say here other than I didn't realize what your views were until now.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 02:20 AM
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If you want rape jokes you can pick almost any default sub on reddit. Don't shitpost in a sub regarding social issues.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 11:45 PM
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Takeaways: People need help being free from pressure and support with coming forward about rape to catch serial rapists. And false accusations make that so much harder, it could have tanked this one. It backs up what GirlWritesWhat wrote here.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 04:13 PM
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As for your first part, yes I agree with all of that. And as I said, both sides of this binary are not good with empathy. Absolutely, the men as default is something that I see as very core to gender. This point in particular seems lost on a lot of other people and MRAs, who desperately want gender relations to be symmetrical in all cases. It restricts and "pedastalizes" women, while relegating men to genderless people. not privilege in the sense of 'advantage', but privilege in the sense of the…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 03:44 PM
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Really good! From what I've been reading lately Australia is really the forefront of implementing solutions to men's issues. We have men's sheds here, but they are locally run and funded. And it's men doing great work for the community too. Building playgrounds for kids, repairing bikes for poor communities, repairing toys for kids. Men doing good things for the community, you don't hear about that enough in the media.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 01:35 PM
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Guess what the common opposition is? You are a fucking beta, bro. and Misandry is not a thing. Feminists and tough guys agree, it's time to toughen up and suffer for women's benefit.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 12:51 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmuSCjqG9ms
/r/MensRights21/09/13 08:23 AM
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This seems like a good analogy to "blaming the victim". edit: Also, donated. Please help out, it's a small amount to have important men's issues discussed.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 08:16 AM
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Ah yes, these people are doing so much for the atheist community. And by that, I mean sniping down any prominent atheist they remotely dislike for whatever reason.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 07:22 AM
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Too bad they can't fit citations on balloons.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 10:58 PM
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Ah I did a ctrl+f and didn't see those comments. Well, the first one I can't find but the second two yes I agree they are offensive. It does annoy me a little what you've done with the last one though, the statement "women inherently have less interest in maths" is not "no socialization of women against math exists" or "women are dumb". If women were inherently less interested in math compared to men, it wouldn't make them dumb. But yes, I see these things and realize they are problems. when you…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:57 PM
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Read the sidebar.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:14 PM
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Didn't make it past the first sentence. All I browsed from there was the link you posted about an NZ boy, and I can tell you that NZs leading men's activist regarding the sexual abuse of boys, who actually is making change, is nothing like you. "Real men analyze," reminds me a of a great Paul Elam quote.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 08:12 AM
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I bet you to it but yes it goes to show just how one sided their views on everything are.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 07:27 AM
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Pretty messed up I agree. But at least it mentions buildings, instead of killing actual people: I'm asking you to stop men who beat women. Get them jailed or get them killed. But stop them. I am not asking you to be martyrs. I am saying that we have been talking for 20 years. And I am saying that men who rape make a choice to rape. And men who beat women make a choice to beat women. And we women now have choices that we have to make to fight back. And I am asking you to look at every single poli…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:09 AM
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No one said stupid or lazy though, actually the JudgyBitch post we're commenting on links to another one of her posts at the end which echoes my comment (although I don't agree with her completely). If I was too good for this there would be somewhere better to go. Somewhere else where people cared about sexually abused boys instead of trying to cover it up, somewhere that didn't expunge you from discussions the second you step outside of their circlejerk.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 11:44 AM
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More like Gillard shot herself in the foot.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 11:35 AM
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See: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1mnfsa/pray_men_never_take_a_day_off_100_of_power_plant/ccay96b
/r/MensRights19/09/13 10:42 AM
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There were clearly 5 links in there though, so reading this chain of posts they delivered and you responded with nothing. Once again, critics who post here are more often than not one post trolls who don't engage in debate.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 10:20 AM
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How horribly ironic, because the exact reason we don't recognize female sexual predators is because of articles like these which tell us they don't exist. There are plenty of statistics showing female offenders exist. http://www.female-offenders.com/resources.html
/r/MensRights19/09/13 08:31 AM
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Thanks for this! I think CHS still did ok, you're dead right in the video that they jumped her with the frame of patriarchy. Fantastic ending to it as well, they absolutely made it a zero sum game in which to eliminate the focus on the failing of boys.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 07:18 AM
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On the other hand a large percentage of stay at home parents are mothers too. I wouldn't want kids going without love any more than my internet going down. Both men and women work together to make the world turn.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 06:57 AM
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Yes I read your reply and enjoyed it for the simple reason that people need to get the expanded definition hammered into their head. Big P "Patriarchy" is not perfectly equatable to "traditional gender roles" and people who naively accept Patriarchy also accept the holistic privilege of men.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:27 AM
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I think that second definition is also biased, as it uses the phrases subordination/superiority. For example, the expectation that a man has to be the one to provide for their family is neither makes the man "subordinate" nor "inferior", but is definitely sexist.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:11 AM
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Well it was just an analogy, but yes - they claim that the gendered privileges women recieve keep them locked in oppression because they are trained since birth to accept that role, and they just link any of those privileges with eventual disadvantages they percieve in order to taint any supposed privilege as "benevolent sexism".
/r/MensRights18/09/13 09:14 PM
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They would say it's part of the same system. i.e., imagine a special coin is flipped, but lands on heads 60% of the time. Even if it lands on tails, sometimes, the special coin is still biased.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 09:06 PM
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Just a note to those interested, you can make your own quite easily at sites like infogr.am or visual.ly.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:15 AM
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Pens for ladies are fucking stupid though.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:58 AM
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/r/mensrants is a better place.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:58 AM
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No, they're trying to change the definition to suit their needs. In their view, they likely would say that Patriarchy is a system in which men are privileged by gender, therefore even if they are victims of gender, overall the system is still benefiting them. Which is a ridiculous way to think, even if it were true. Which it isn't.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:52 AM
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/r/INeedFeminismBecause
/r/MensRights18/09/13 01:15 AM
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That's a lot of signatures! Good stuff.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 11:28 AM
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Yeah kiwi here in agreement. Though there is plenty of discussion here about how men are discriminated against. The bashing against feminists is because of their willingness to push issues like gender equality in government but silence and resistance on men's issues.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 10:50 AM
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Yeah it is ridiculous. Just over the ditch here in NZ our current "right of center" National party has 7 women out of 24 ranked MPs.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 10:45 AM
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We have a "Success for Boys" group here in NZ too but I don't think it's received government assistance. There has been both research and experts here to show false accusations of misconduct is one reason holding men back. There has been some movement with the formation of EC Menz, but the Education Minister has flat out said no to addressing the lack of men in ECE. Yep, we fund the Ministry of Women's Affairs with millions of dollars each year for the purpose of "achieving gender equality", but…
/r/MensRights17/09/13 10:38 AM
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What topics would you like to see covered? Well for one thing, nonpartisanship.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 08:11 AM
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Great post, at least in NZ both police reports and large scale studies show men are as likely to be victims of domestic violence.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 09:18 AM
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Gender nihilism and bitterness? I've seen enough "fag"/"beta"/"mangina" talk to know the subset of men they care about is limited to 1.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:57 AM
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I've always ignored the statements about her being a scammer and whatnot because they seemed like petty ad hominems to her actual points about videogames. I mean, it was pretty obvious from the outset that she was a feminists taking shots at everything and anything male dominated and just hit the jackpot on videogames, but it didn't really matter. Here however I find this a little different. Her core claims around misogynistic content causing harm to women still stand as it's own, but the idea t…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 01:54 AM
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Repulsive, I'm glad that they caught her.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 07:34 AM
3

Its ok /u/shitbaggins, show us on the doll where someone touched you when you were younger. Come on dude, jokes like that aren't needed.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 07:29 AM
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Thanks for the hard work mods, the new blog sounds great.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 04:39 AM
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I believe it was an SRSSucks thread which linked to /r/blackladies. Quite a few people got banned. edit: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1h01hv/
/r/MensRights15/09/13 04:37 AM
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You said it right, but there's an extra part. Men are socialized to draw self value from sexual attention from women, to see women as more sexually valuable than themselves, and so even abusive and harmful behaviour is tolerated. Because of this there is a subcontext about a woman's entitlements to a man's body, in that women feel it's harmless to touch men, or invade their personal space, or have sex with them when they don't want to.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 12:38 PM
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No actual discussion about men in the article. I read the actual report (not worth reading, you know the gist already) and despite admitting: Since 1994 women have been graduating with tertiary qualifications at higher rates than men; they now comprise 65 percent of university graduates ...they write basically nothing about flexible hours for men. No analysis on fathers or stereotypes about men that stop them from childcare roles. I can't imagine what kind of mind it takes to imagine that societ…
/r/MensRights13/09/13 12:26 PM
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Uhhh... I think this broke me. Too much, too horrible, I can only imagine how much they hate themselves for the benefit of women who wouldn't give them the time of day.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 12:17 PM
1

Really good interview, but sad that CHS is still the only person who seems to be pushing this after a decade.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 11:21 AM
3

I would say it does somewhat, but it a) doesn't do it well b) doesn't do it enough. A lot of the reports I've seen focus unsurprisingly on sexual harassment. For example, this report came out just recently: http://mwa.govt.nz/documents/building-back-better-utilising-women%E2%80%99s-labour-canterbury-recovery-2013
/r/MensRights13/09/13 10:37 AM
1

I think it's the opposite of a problem, what's wrong with the idea that it's ok for women to be attracted to men?
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:56 AM
1

Hey that's really good, thanks for sharing!
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:53 AM
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Here is a link for information in Australia, particularly you should call: 1800 737 732 - to talk to someone immediately or find services in your area. 24-hour counselling is available for you, a friend or family member, or client. 1300 657 380 - Adults Surviving Child Abuse (ASCA) professional counselling line on this number, Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm http://www.aifs.gov.au/acssa/crisis.html Hi OP, I am very sorry to hear about what happened to you. A significant about of child abuse is perf…
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:45 AM
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I don't know, this seems pretty obviously on the "red pill"/PUA side of things, which you can blatantly tell from the "Game" stuff on the sidebar.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:25 AM
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women’s innate solipsism Give me a break.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:23 AM
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If you want to change the behavior, you have to get out there and help do it. The only way you'll get a meta post like this to succeed is to point out a group of exceedingly egregious posts. Otherwise just join me in downvoting the bullshit. edit: Also, not everyone here is a guy!
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:01 AM
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Very informative post, thanks!
/r/MensRights12/09/13 09:19 PM
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Ah I see his comment know - but yeah actually if people are going to try and bring up race in a subreddit about gender I'd like there to be a reason for it.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:51 AM
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Citation needed for this having anything to do with race?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:01 AM
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That's my intepretation, i.e. reddit has a significant proportional amount of libertarians posters, but I don't think it's as high as propoprtions in the MR demographic. In particular, libertarians are attracted to MR via anti-feminism as feminism relies heavily on government programs and social engineering.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:20 AM
2

Have a look at the sub demographic. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1gp2u6/results_from_the_rmensrights_survey/ I think these types are simply attracted to the arguement, reddit is a libertarian hive and MR is even more so. The most important thing is to tell people trying to inject white rights into the MRM to piss off. I normally compare them to vegans, or feminists in Atheism+ trying to cause schisms that weaken the focus on men.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 12:47 AM
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I can only imagine the collective amount of feminist anger generated by columns like these is enough to power a small city. I think her point will still fly over the head of the feminists she's trying to address, because when she says "I want to tell these women who are seeing only oppression: Look around", they're not going to be able to see what women have in comparison to men because Rosin didn't actually make any significant comparisons to men. They'll just keep on seeing oppression until yo…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 12:37 AM
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Ironically one of the top comments in the AMA is an MRA defending her. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/17i8uf/i_am_hanna_rosin_author_of_the_end_of_men_ama/
/r/MensRights12/09/13 12:34 AM
1

Great topic and great speaker, awesome work from CAFE!
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:39 AM
1

Really awesome idea, however I can't see it taking off on reddit as there are a lot of weirdo stalkers who dislike MRAs enough to collect information on them. It would work better on Tumblr I imagine. I'll have a Guinness for us next time I'm out, a cheers for actually trying to get something up and running. Nice kitten :)
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:37 AM
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Hah, oh good to know I'm not completely crazy in my thoughts then :)
/r/MensRights10/09/13 09:13 AM
3

...the anti-war group?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 08:54 AM
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The idea that a man can't get laid is a shaming tactic, responding to it by having to prove yourself is giving in to their ploy to make you dependent on defining yourself by the affection of women. I can tell you there's some MRAs out there who are MRAs because they got laid when they didn't want to.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 07:59 AM
1

Fair enough - archive.is is a good option if you need to post something, the Gawker ban is about page views. Or you know, you could just PM the links.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 07:32 AM
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Read the sidebar please: Links to other subreddits must use NP format ("np" in place of "www"). Cross linking to submissions from other subreddits with fewer than 30,000 members within the first 24 hours is prohibited.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 07:04 AM
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Well actually, she had quite an innovative style as she was the one of the very few people who was a virtuoso at both guitar and violin. I'd probably revise what I said to not good at writing songs, she was more like an avant-garde version of Malmsteen. Orianthi on the other hand just seems like a Santana cover guitarist, I'd rather listen to Lita Ford than her.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 09:39 PM
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The Great Kat was one of the fastest ever guitarists, just as one other. She wasn't great at writing music though.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 09:19 PM
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Way better rant than "decent", it'd take me some serious practice to join the ranks of the "rant eloquently for 20 minutes" youtube crew. I lol'd at the makeup bit, discussions on that are always touchy. She's advocating getting into "education, politics, world news, cultures, music" instead of "sex and gossip and housewives" so I can only assume feminists will love this.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 12:17 PM
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He's obviously viewing everything through a political lens instead of a gender one, but still makes some quite interesting points. Very specifically, that the class struggle for upper and lower class women means a very different set of work outcomes. The second point that work is an obligation, an obligation that men have historically have, yet feminists are selling it as privilege. However he doesn't touch on the fact modern feminists are relying heavily on government affirmative action though.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 08:08 AM
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Man, don't go around calling people fags.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:54 AM
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The Justice Minister Judith Collins gave a comment about looking into but so far nothing has happened, there have actually been two high profile cases lately which bolsters the case. I've seen several confusingly different reports on sexual violation vs. rape laws but from this article I think I see that there is a disparity to do with statutory rape. I'm going to write a letter to at least let them know that it's not going to be forgotten.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:16 AM
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A significant amount of male rape occurs in jail, so that's one system that's failing to support men. A system where good councelling and support is hard to get is another. A social culture in where the sexual abuse of men is treated as something to brush off or be ashamed of, or worse, be thankful for is another. If what you were saying about randomization was true, then the world over would have the exact same sexual abuse statistics, but cultures, laws and money exists.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:09 AM
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Wanting to be called an egalitarian is fine, I certainly identify with the label as I care about women's inequality too. However, know this: lip service is easy, funding and real support isn't. Feminists in New Zealand have been funded with millions to run the "Ministry of Women's Affairs" and yet it was MRAs like Ken Clearwater who lobbied to have this law change, who pushed the government with statistics that only ever feminists push back against, it's only ever MRAs who actually get damn upse…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 02:01 AM
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Actually, that's exactly what NZs leading MRA on the topic says. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Xisb1V0OY
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:35 AM
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It was a police woman.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:32 AM
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It's because of the wide variation of studies, for example an unwanted slap on the butt would be counted in a study on sexual violence. The false statistics are the one's which equate all sexual violence to rape. It's true that the figure can be misleading because of the way some people use it, but as long as it's used in context I don't mind.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 09:13 PM
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MRA's should know about Dr. Celi, especially aussie MRAs. Really nice to hear sympathy and good questions from the presenters. http://www.drceli.com.au/
/r/MensRights06/09/13 12:00 PM
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Feminist 1: "Oppression for 1000s of years!" I don't think this person fathoms the brutality of life 1000 years ago, famine and diseases were the oppressive forces and I guarantee a strong man was a help back then. Feminist 2: "What is this men's movement doing about things that aren't about gender? Huh?!" Feminist 3: "I literally am above the concept of time and other people. Oh, and intellectual = white men. Did I mention *empirical evidence*?" Shoehorning in race again. I thought empirical ev…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 11:23 AM
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Eh it's likely staged. But regardless, it's still a woman joking about invading the private space of men, which is exactly the kind of gendered disrespect for men that the MRM is about.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 10:48 AM
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The repulsion I feel towards Kat Banyard is proof enough women can be seen for their opinions. I hope she never finds out what internet porn is like or I fear she might explode. Men wanting to look at pictures of hot chicks is not the end of the world, I can only imagine the sexually repressed dystopia her world would be. Maybe she should look into Cleo or Cosmo if she actually cares about more than demonizing male sexuality. God help me I may have laughed
/r/MensRights06/09/13 10:37 AM
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Have you taken measures to protect your personal safety before engaging with MRAs SweetieKat? I certainly hope you're not voting in linked threads from AMR, Aerik wouldn't be happy if you accidentally make their movement look better. /s
/r/MensRights06/09/13 01:42 AM
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She's half right. Being promiscuous is not complying to ideals of appealing to men, in fact it's the opposite. Society wants women to display beauty and resist giving it to anyone but a man who will take care of them.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 09:36 AM
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Just remember, "they aren't real feminists!". Traditional sexism is belittling men's pain, feminist "parodies" are no different to Sharon Osbourne laughing at genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 09:23 AM
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Really good OP. Not getting massively drunk on a date can save you 18 years of child support.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 12:53 AM
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....I didn't voice it well, but what I meant was that the admins have a tenuous relationship with both MRAs and MR which they are free to cut at any point (i.e. ban). Sorry for the confusion.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:21 PM
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I imagine they might have the upper hand, I'm sure RD would rage quit after a few seconds of dealing with Big Red.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 12:22 PM
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God damn Jackson Katz - even I'm surprised that this is the outcome after his big TEDx buzz. What a joke.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 12:11 PM
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Thanks for your support /u/amberrr626, I'm very sorry to hear what happened to your friend. There are plenty of statistics such as this that show your friends experience is not unique.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 12:07 PM
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Your making a common mistake here that all people that are white look the same Sure, there are also different types of black people, people with very dark skin and very light skin. However we are simply looking at the single characteristic of whiteness, not hairiness or size of breasts. A hairy white person is closer Tom Cruise than a hairy black person. Excuse me while I die laughing, your assuming I have ever been interviewed by a company head. I was actually meaning that sometimes they introd…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:48 AM
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But that's the thing you assuming you are a minority don't have to deal with this. I can't be 100% on what you meant here. All people are possible of having deal with all issues. This is a non-point, what we know is that statistically there are correlations between (edit) the issues people voice and who they are. You're saying that white people feel compelled to commit suicide, yet rejecting my main point that white people can feel suffocated and invisible because of their homogeneity. I could b…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:19 AM
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Well again, being poor is different from being white. I will again reiterate that feminists will tell you tales of "poor disabled black trans woman" in order to obliterate discussion on any of those individual points - normally as an attack on men alone, but they use other issues as a sheild. Please stop saying "white guy". You also see a lot of white people in lead roles at the movies though right? You go for a job interview and the head of the company is white? You seem to have backflipped on …
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:10 AM
2

Just on the "first world problems" bit, that was actually me mis-reading OP and making a different point. Here it is: I'd ask you to take a step back and think about how "first world problems" having too much culture to pick from is, or not being able to percieve white culture. It was about feeling part of the majority (in any way, not limited to race) and feeling disaffected by lacking uniqueness in your life. The suicide statistics is the only one I've ever seen about white people, mass murder…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:40 AM
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In mainstream american culture the worst of the worst are always white men who are racist sexist and usually criminal most often rapists, though some times they get away with it cause they are rich. Kind off. Yes I agree on concepts about men, but unless what you're saying is that there are equal amounts of white and black female villains but not the same for men, I don't see this needing to be about men. In Rambo 4, a bunch of white men save a beautiful white woman from a horde of rapists and m…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:36 AM
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Points taken, but I was not unaware of either of them. No person should ever feel guilty for being white ("lynched somebody, but I don't know who"), but that doesn't mean we can't feel empathy for those who suffer from the racist attitudes of some people that are still very alive.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:20 AM
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Someone linked that thread for sure. edit: yes from a fb group. Not posting it because of the tenuous actions of the admins around here...
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:13 AM
2

I'm not sure I understood your comment, can you rephrase it?
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:10 AM
2

Well I said "I'm not sure" because I've been through enough conversations with pure trolls lately to be wary of putting effort into people who do not care. I was giving you a chance to rectify what I saw as critical one-sidedness, I think you're smart enough to anticipate most of what I have to say so it grates me to have to say any of it. As I said, I geniunely do not like race discussions in the MRM and am firefighting these down as fast as I can.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:09 AM
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Then perhaps you shouldn't have made a response basically stating white men's problems don't matter as much as other men's problems? I never said that, actually I said white people's problems are different to the types of problems minorities voice (OP being the example). Again I hate people saying "white men", that's a sign you've been woozled one too many times by feminists to conflate being white with being male when statistically and socially they are vastly different. I actually find it a li…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 09:06 AM
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I think I worded that a little strongly, I do not think people cannot fully empathize with other races, in fact you'd probably know about obsessive Japanophiles who glorify Asian culture. If you have trouble identifying with someone on screen its likely has something to do with a lack of empathy on your part. Well children can be quite malleable when it comes to social messages. I don't think people are evil and racist, but I do believe feeling different to the majority has an effect on people, …
/r/MensRights04/09/13 08:54 AM
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I'm not sure this really warrants a response. You've been incredibly vague for example when you say things like "Race doesn't matter", which is just ridiculous when flagrantly racist people exist. And again you say "I sometimes wonder if blacks aren't overrepresented as a segment of the population" when clearly even being overrepresented as a minority doesn't change the fact that overall you're still a minority. Then you make out that admitting people can some negative racism exists hast to mean…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 08:19 AM
2

One thing that absolutely boggles my mind is why they claim the bystander effects is what matters, but why they don't engage women to stop domestic violence. Are women so pathetic they don't count when it comes to being complicit to abuse?
/r/MensRights04/09/13 08:05 AM
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They honestly are getting funnier.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 06:16 AM
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particularly white I absolutely understand, that you, as a white person can have racial issues. Particularly, white people can often feel like they need to form subcultures because they feel they feel an abscense of any culture tied around race. However, I'd ask you to take a step back and think about how "first world problems" having too much culture to pick from is, or not being able to percieve white culture. You have the power to go out and find what part of human culture you want to be part…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 06:15 AM
2

It really is. Be a strong man? Man up? If I wasn't so frustrated with this I'd say it's comical. It seems like a bad joke.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 01:29 AM
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It's not about the actual actors, I'm sure none of the models involved minded the worldwide exposure or money. It's about the messages of which the video is portraying, and the subtle to not so subtle differences between the videos and intended parody aspects. You can read a more full analysis I wrote previously. Feminists, people who apparantly believe in gender equality, are using the idea of castration as humour in this video to further their point. I don't see much difference between that hu…
/r/MensRights03/09/13 10:10 PM
2

Oh man too many... I've always liked this one for the open comment about manhood. Oh and this.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 01:46 PM
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Un. Be. Lievable. Can you imagine them trouncing a 14 year old girl on stage to face her rapist? This is how we treat young men, they are thrust straight into the adult world, told to be a man, given a fraction of the sympathy girls get and everyone wonders why men have issues later in life. When you're putting boys through a god damn meat grinder of adulthood before they even have facial hair what do you think is going to happen? Why the fuck is she on tv? Is this real life?
/r/MensRights03/09/13 01:03 PM
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I have this person tagged as "actual pedophile". A quick browse through their history confirms that they are advocating for pedophilia.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 12:56 PM
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True, shouldn't have written that. You're at least wandering in in large numbers because of the falcon sub and linking directly to MR threads. edit: Also, getting called paranoid by pol... my sides. I'm the shill though right?
/r/MensRights02/09/13 06:52 AM
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Hey /pol/, feel free to do whatever just keep it outside MR. Basically there is a 4chan board called "/pol/". Like most of 4chan it is prone to trolling and general degeneracy, but /pol/ in particular is an extremely anti-semitic and racist political board. As in, literally praising Hitler, "ha ha the holocaust was a good thing" type of stuff. /r/niggers on 4chan if you will. They're also extremely anti-feminist, anti-LGBT etc. for obvious reasons (you know, homosexuality is a mental disease), a…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:41 AM
0

I would worry about it man, they're trolls who are invading from a 4chan board. Don't expect anything but trolling.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:38 AM
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I'm just gonna post the rant I had in rNZ: Lol, this was from Auckland? Well I've got some bad news... feminists suck at gender flips. They say they're all about gender equality, but they're happy to trample over the men's issues they claim to care about when required. This is a frivolous but good enough example. In the original video, there was no scene where two men stand on either side of a woman and kiss her while she looks uncomfortable. Now this is obviously could be part of of an addition…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:25 AM
0

I know enough about pol to know that the username "chaimgoldberg" isn't innocent.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 03:26 AM
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Re-framing race hatred "radical free speech" doesn't work, you get that right? Just because "kill all Jews" is an extreme position that is rarely spoken doesn't automatically make it a good opinion? You're not being fucking brave for calling blacks subhuman on pol, cowering in an anonymous corner of the internet and jerking each other off does not make you an Ubermensch. You can pull out all the Nietzsche quotes you want, it won't stop the demographic being moronic white nationalists and 16 year…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 03:08 AM
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As I said, why the fuck would I want to associate men's rights with being against interacial dating and saying blacks are inherently violent? Go back to pol.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:15 AM
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Why the fuck would I want to associate men's rights with being against interacial dating and saying blacks are inherently violent? Or anti-male opinions like I had no idea that transvestites and betafags were considered men now.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:13 AM
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Is that because of the memes on interracial dating or blacks being inherently more violent that other races?
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:10 AM
0

I have a problem with facts being used selectively to forward racist opinions based not in good faith but hatred and insecurity.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:09 AM
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It's not about the accuracy of the facts, it's about those facts being presented in a narrow and selective fashion, and being used selectively to try and make correlations appear as biological differences in races, for the singular cause of forwarding deep seated racial hated.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:07 AM
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Why does the fact that /pol/ make it automatically make it "bad?" It closely associates men's rights with anti-semitism and racism. The exact same images are being used to disseminate information about Jews in politics and racial correlations with IQs etc.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:02 AM
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I didn't say I think it was bad. I said it wasn't part of a good campaign as people who care about men shouldn't be associated with comments like... ["It's spelled "misogynist" you faggot."](www.reddit.com/r/factualfalcon/comments/1lhjdo/factual_falcon_on_being_called_a_racist/cbzdt56) and veiled anti-semitism and racism hidden behind shitty jokes in your new sub are. Go back to 4chan.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:00 AM
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/pol/ plz go
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:56 AM
4

Is this correct? Yes, on a first read nothing I disagree with jumped out. Is this part of a good campaign? Lol, no. This is a /pol/ meme, probably the worlds final resting place of extremist, anti-semitic and racist trolls. They don't care about men, they just hate progressives.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:54 AM
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Is this correct? Yes, absolutely. Partially. Is this part of a good campaign? Lol, no. This is a /pol/ meme, probably the worlds final resting place of extremist, anti-semitic and racist trolls. They don't care about men, they just hate progressives.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:51 AM
1

Oh right, so if the results had shown that gays made very bad parents, we shouldn't use that result in any way. No they obviously would have used it to try and improve same sex parenting...? But since the result was positive, you happily made the sweeping generalization that "Gay are doing pretty damn well as parents". But they are...?
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:31 AM
2

Yep I agree with that. However the look on her face was kind of a cute "surprise" rather than uncomfortable - basically very objectified, childlike in the inability to understand the actions around them.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:29 AM
1

Err no I read it (that's why I could tell you what was revealed in the name of transparency) - you think they're saying "the results must always be positive", but they're saying "even if children in same-sex families are under-performing the results must not be used against same-sex couples", i.e. with the same logic that just because African American children perform worse in education doesn't mean you should ban all African Americans from adopting children You're just like that Fox News interv…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:17 AM
2

...wait, you're that person who flatly refused to look at or back up criticism of the study on salary discrimination right? It's pretty obvious the only person with a massive bias here is you, once again the methodology is all there, limitations and competing interests all declared in the name of transparency.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:57 AM
2

The odds of the sexuality of one out of five authors involved telepathically influencing the worlds largest study on the topic? Probably not that likely aye.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:33 AM
1

Speak for yourself. >.< Luckily some of those classic male rights are heading women's way!
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:07 AM
1

Really not sure what you intended with this submission. Perhaps submitting it to /r/racism or /r/Game0fDolls or something makes more sense.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 06:05 AM
1

It really didn't need that comic at the bottom. The comic is lacking so much context that all it does is inflame peoples own pre-existing views equality, I've seen it too many times.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 05:20 AM
-1

It's disappointing because valid points exist in a place where they are rendered useless by their hidden nature and the inability to criticize them. They have the choice between making the MRM better by challenging misogyny, or attempt simply make themselves feel good by using a circlejerk to paint MRAs in the worst light. Most don't truly hold any care for men's issues that are not being tackled by feminism, so they pick the second option.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 05:02 AM
4

Hell, there's at least one other AMR type sub at /r/mensrightswatch.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 04:57 AM
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Yes. I think that there are a number of things that we fundamentally disagree with, and are things I don't see any obvious route in which can be resolved. That's fine, I just prefer for people to state that. When people silently drop points, it often denotes they are too proud to concede something or too adversarial want a productive outcome, which is a little exasperating when you're putting good faith into resolve discussions. If you don't feel that male virginity is culturally worth less than…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 02:52 AM
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It's so much easier for them to joke about this when they're using the male pronoun "he". If they were using "she", I doubt they would be so quick to make that comment. The context of prison rape jokes is pretty clear, pundits so often use vagueness as an excuse to pass bigoted messages. Of course, if they're challenged they'll backtrack faster than a rat up a drainpipe - but no-one on their shows challenge them for a reason.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:49 AM
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That's the only response? As I said (because I assumed you'd take that route...), traditional representation, in that scenario I'm specifically talking about anal penetration of men being associated with gay men. Pegging is hardly a social phenomenon on the pop culture radar and heterosexual media (including pornography) rarely presents rear facing men squeezing their buttocks as a sexual fantasy.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:37 AM
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Well, this video, critiquing Thicke, offers an alternative take Hence my original comment. I don't care at all if they're trying to make a point, feminists have been consistently using traditional sexist ways of hurting men as a way to leverage their own points. The "Because your precious dick Can't beat my vibrator" line says everything - that's the height of traditionally sexist commentary against men, that their bodies are sexually less valuable than a woman's. So what's this he to do given h…
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:24 AM
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Sure, but I don't accept that my own biases will or should never change.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:43 AM
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Well at least you admit your as feelsy biased as the feminists are. Gay are doing pretty damn well as parents and will always be such a small minority. I find absolutely no reason to fear social collapse because of gay parents, the only thing that's going to negatively affect kids is people telling them the love of their parents is an affront to some invisible man.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:27 AM
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I disagree, there are very real legal changes that can be made that will institutionalize a fairer world for men. For example, fathers rights groups in New Zealand played a part in making the courts systems better for men.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:17 AM
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I agree the ratio could be a bit better. Quality posts overall are more important though, feel free to contribute.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:14 AM
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A lot of MRAs also identify with the cause of gender equality and social issues, but are against the feminism for failing to be a gender equality movement. Criticism is the only way feminism is going to change.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:13 AM
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"2 gender"? Gay parents do just fine, it's the influence of having a missing parent that's the problem.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:11 AM
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I skipped through it to see if it was worth it and found him talking about Christians and how he doesn't like fat woman, didn't seem worth the time.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:09 AM
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Just remember. You're a man. You're invincible. You have no gendered problems. You don't cry and no-one can hurt you. It's your job to protect women because they are as a class weak and can't do it themselves. And this is not sexism.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:04 AM
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But no longer socially acceptable.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:58 PM
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Yes you're right I was a bit liberal there, personally I'd like a singular gender neutral pronoun word in English, "they" always seems clumsy.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:48 PM
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Ah yes, we all know boys biologically evolved to wear blue pyjamas.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:43 PM
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http://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/faq.html
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:31 PM
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I was not speaking about the video when it came to feminine shaming. In that instance (when I said normally), I was thinking of various "Hawkeye Initiative" comics. However, in watching the entire vid they do it anyway. You think that you're so slick, Let me emasculate ya! Because your precious dick Can't beat my vibrator. In normally gendered sexual videos men do not proclaim they don't need women's vaginas and think women can be substituted for sexbots. On the other hand, I do agree that there…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 01:46 PM
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Whose "they"? I know some radical feminists would but I can't say I know enough about mainstream Swedes to speak for them or their entire government.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 01:02 PM
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I disagree for the reason I stated, it's clumsy, asymmetrical and inadequate, we don't need to be slaves to history for no reason and it's gender neutrality is vanishing quickly for entirely natural reasons. I understand your criticism that philosophically there are no ultimate inarguable social goals (and certainly the women aspect, obviously I'm here to discuss gender relations), but pragmatically I would rather my children not die of a preventable disease like obesity because someone somewher…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 12:15 PM
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No your own citation shows you to be incorrect, "he" is to be used on previously identified male entities, you're claiming a new definition exists when unidentified but you're simply saying it's true. You seem to be introducing more new definitions than any Swede is. To somehow measure what it means to "do well" in a "social area" strikes me as an absurd delusion of social scientists. Low recidivism, sustainability, access to education, health and wellbeing, etc. - quantitative social statistics…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:31 AM
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...what? He is not a gender neutral term at all... https://www.google.com/search?q=he+definition. The word hen has been in use since the 60s, they're just adding it to the dictionary for practical reasons. For a dystopia it's certainly doing well in a wide range of social areas. English also once had gender neutral pronouns "ou" and "a". Now it's just they.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:59 AM
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Well call me when they try and remove han and hon from the dictionary and I'll be up in arms with you. But I understand that you mean from the people rather than from a tiny minority of whom do not speak for the majority.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:27 AM
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As I just said, no-one should be forcing their kids to avoid conforming to gender patterns. Or forcing it on anyone, gender neutral terms are just an option that people can otherwise take.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:20 AM
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I don't see a problem with gender neutral words, anyone who's had to struggle with either writing "he/she" or re-writing your sentence would know it's a decent idea. I totally agree with the last bit though. No-one should be forcing their kids to avoid conforming to gender patterns, especially when that's code-word for masculinity.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:07 AM
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Well here's one reason. In the original video, there was no scene where two men stand on either side of a woman and kiss her while she looks uncomfortable. Now this is obviously could be part of of an additional commentary on harassment, but regardless it shows feminists are terrible with gender flips. Whenever they gender flip anything they normally can't help but add in shaming of feminine men or feminine entitlement to a man's body.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 07:02 AM
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One thing that always gets me about these feminist "gender flips" is that they always contain subtle aspects that aren't gender flipped. For example, in the original video the men are smiling and trying to be close to the women. They're playing it cool, but they're obviously impressed with the women. Here though, there are active attempts to disrespect the men and make them uncomfortable. There is none of that in the original video. That's probably the cause of any uneasness - they are being mor…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:51 AM
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You've got to be very careful with getting a girl pregnant, help other men know this so they can avoid a similar situation, that your only choices come before conception. Sorry this happened to you OP.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 02:47 AM
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And as a guy, no-one care about you being a victim of this sort of bodyshaming. You're just expected to man up and take it from any women who wants to socially emasculate you.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 09:46 AM
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Jenna Marbles is awesome. Give her the page views, not that shit MA idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ7wT4CUprQ
/r/MensRights30/08/13 09:40 AM
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Women feel socially entitled to touch men's bodies, not the other way around.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 09:37 AM
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I should clarify - her actual position (alongside other noted feminist activists) is on the advisory board.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 09:28 AM
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And?
/r/MensRights30/08/13 09:23 AM
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You've missed one crucial point. Women are more likely to take public transport than men. http://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-women-use-public-transit-more-than-men-2012-2 Nice sentiment in the results though OP.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 09:18 AM
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Thanks! Interesting interview.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:58 AM
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Just remember, she's the one chairing the "Center For Masculine Studies" at Stony Brook University.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 08:50 AM
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Give her all the obligations of a man, give her the experience of being a full person instead of a victim. Make sure she knows she's responsible for her mistakes just like everyone else. People who have been through the full experience and tough parts of being a person can empathize with others, and aren't likely to trample over anyone. And give her lots and lots of love.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 11:42 AM
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Agreed, it doesn't even state who brought this case to court. You can definitely tell it's a swedish news site though! http://www.thelocal.se/gallery/3372/
/r/MensRights29/08/13 11:35 AM
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That's basically it yes, but it fall back on ideas that sexual acts are "things men do to women" and not things that men and women mutually engage in (although here this obviously becomes the case as she's unconscious). If a woman later regrets having her ass spanked, is that also assault? It's a difficult issue, euthanasia comes under the same ethical considerations.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 11:19 AM
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Heh - well I've already been accused of being an SRD mods alt... I prefer "not getting banned" approach to avoiding sockpuppets.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 09:47 AM
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Oh all good then.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 09:42 AM
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...are you trying to call me Gareth, kloo? We're both from NZ and have similar views, but that's where it ends. I spend enough time on reddit as it is.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 09:32 AM
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15 times? That's nuts, basically this is perfect feminism in action. Women can consent until the cows come home but if anything goes wrong, it's the man's fault. It also goes to show how we deny female sexual paraphilias. edit: Fine line though, this is in many ways similar to the Armin Meiwes case. Can you consent to someone potentially harming you seriously? Not an easy question.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 08:08 AM
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I don't think anyone's calling demmian m'lady. MR do "brigade", every large sub has a few subscribers that will follow links and contribute, it's not incriminating because there's no reason to hide the fact that reddit is porous. No-where near what a meta-sub like SRS will do though. Take for example this, and the link it goes to: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1fzk07/reddit_feminist_thinks_that_mras_advocate_for/ Bottom line, the admins are expressly forbidding brigading with a waf…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 08:02 AM
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Oh awesome I was going to ask what country this is from and it's NZ! Great news thanks very much for posting it otherwise I'd probably have missed it. He said he believed Garin year 13 girls were the top performing students in the region, with 96 per cent of their 29 female students achieving level 3 in 2012. That compared with 58 per cent of boys achieving the same qualification. That's shocking. He said a suicide at the college last year had impacted on the success of many Garin boys. Yet stil…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:50 AM
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I'm all for TG rights but he is still a male. You prove you aren't in that sentence by misgendering her.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:29 AM
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Sorry, but you clearly lost.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:25 AM
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Good luck with your transition, sorry you had to deal with this ignorant person.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:24 AM
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Great post OP, what a repulsive fucking comment. Regardless of whether someone identifies as a man or a woman, the people who inflict sexism on them are doing so from their own viewpoint. Whether you call it misandry or transmisogyny doesn't matter, what matters is that people are standing up against it. Shame about some of the comments in here, misgendering is a distraction from the more serious issue of prison rape.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:20 AM
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Meh, should just be a reminder that there are plenty of women who post here, so don't assume the MHRM just comprises of men.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 02:05 AM
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I think it's best if you don't advertise that stuff. 99% of people wouldn't recognize most feMRAs here because they don't advertise it, they just speak up for men's issues and that's damn respectable.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 02:03 AM
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That's nut imo. TRP is about enforcing masculinity on men, telling women they have no obligation to men or society because they're nothing more than sexual children incapable of being responsible. MR is about telling women they need to take on the same obligations as men if they want the same treatment. edit: this comment was a little harsh. I accept that men and women can enter into complementary and fulfilling traditional roles. I don't know about RPW as a sub, not too interested in it.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:58 AM
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He was directing that to me. That was a "student", but regardless even they have been misled. They say "looking at the study of men and masculinities through different perspectives" when the entire point is that feminist view on masculinity is already the institutional criticism on masculinity.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 09:20 PM
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Good post OP, this is an important point about men always "choosing" to take the hard jobs. I have friends who have hurt themselves numerous times by labouring in meat factory, and it was quite obvious that girls were preferentially given easy (and more importantly, safe) jobs by managers folding boxes. All getting paid the same of course.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 10:29 AM
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Even though it's a funny speech, the way the audience laughs at quite serious comments goes to show his exact points.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 07:53 AM
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Very well written OP! You have a clear way with words. Too many here are downvoting and complaining because they both haven't bothered to read enough to criticize. Right off the bat you have the insight to understand how the sub will react and pre-empt it with a response, which is a sign you know the situation quite well. While this sub can be compassionate to men, men here can still often be cruel to other men as they would be in real life, i.e. enforcing masculine hierarchies, and you likewise…
/r/MensRights28/08/13 07:49 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights28/08/13 07:31 AM
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Please take a minute to sign the petition below (real easy) and let them know what a joke their center for masculine studies is. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/balance-advisory-board-of-stony-brook-university/
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:47 AM
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It's obvious that's what they're going to paint him as, no matter how perfect his rebuttals are. Registerher + quote mining without context is going to lead to a very ugly portrait of MRAs. Elam's position is that getting the word out to potential supporters is more important than getting good press, because he believes the majority of people will never care about taking actions on men's issues when delivered by nice people.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 12:05 AM
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Great little article, some more on reclaiminglostvoices.com
/r/MensRights27/08/13 12:11 PM
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Good stuff OP. While I totally support the message that everyone should speak up about sexual violence, pushing the idea that women are incapable of it is a horrible erasure of men who have suffered from it and have no outlets to express it. The sad fact is probably one of the more powerful way you could advocate this is sexist is by saying it excludes lesbian rape. Which is an extremely valid point, but just one that shows how little sympathy we show male victims of sexual violence.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 11:55 AM
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But it's important those voices like Farrell's are out there regardless of what feminists say, because you're not going to see Paul Elam on CNN.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 11:38 AM
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Hmm tough call, as always I'm on the fence on this. I appreciate his efforts but at the same time do not want to alienate people or have them turn away from the MRM because it was vilified. The 20/20 debacle sounds like bad news but he's right that no-one cares about interviewing the GMP. I guess there will always need to be a good cop and bad cop here.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 10:06 AM
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If you get upset at stupidity on facebook, you're going to live a very miserable life.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 09:32 AM
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At the time my comment was posted, there were actually not many comments in the thread. Yes, you could get into an argument about "good faith", but that's a whole other discussion. That is essentially my point, it is misleading because the heading implies bad faith by feminists, and to cause willful damage to wikipedia in order to affect it negatively. here is the wikipedia page on the use of the word vandal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_the_word_%22vandal%22 Note that the defini…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 12:38 AM
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The only thing that stops you from being as bad as Dworkin is that you're a troll and she was serious.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:50 PM
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That's the same reasoning the UoT feminists used to try and silence MRAs on their campus.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:46 PM
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Even if I agreed with you, which I don't, I think that's a reprehensible view on life.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 01:03 PM
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No apologetics from me on that, that's fucked up and I don't even know what "chickenhawking" means.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 12:41 PM
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No problem, just leave the disparaging "special snowflake" comments out of it so you don't alienate men from the MRM who do actually need groups to talk about their issues.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 12:32 PM
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But as I said that doesn't require being disparaging to groups that do good work for minorities and LGBT people. Straight people get to talk about being straight in society constantly, have a look at a magazine rack and see how much of it is focused on homosexuality, then you'll understand why it's helpful for them to have groups that don't need you calling them "special snowflakes".
/r/MensRights26/08/13 12:13 PM
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Yeah- see above. See giegerwasright's posts throughout the subreddit. Please don't make it my job to guess or search for something you are claiming is happening, "speaking out against gays and minorities" is a serious accusation. And it means different things to different people, SRSers would say saying "cracker is racist" is speaking out against minorities. Let me lay this out. In recent surveys of the MR sub it showed there were about the same number of libertarians and democrats. Many liberta…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 11:58 AM
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our special snow flake club. There's no need to be so disparaging of a group that works for minorities and LGBT people. Gay men and black men can be severely effected by men's issues you know.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 11:54 AM
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There's also numerous posts here from members that are speaking out against gays and minorities. Do you have any citations for that? I didn't make the assumption that MRA's here don't do any volunteer work, I just said that I do more than MOST to actively be involved by actually DOING things. That's fair enough (although "I wish more of you cunts would go DO something" is pretty hostile), but thanks for your work regardless.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 11:29 AM
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Where is the lie here? I am dead serious about men's rights and my track record here proves that. I never said there was a lie, I agreed the title was misleading. The title is misleading because the most common definition of vandalism is "To destroy or deface (public or private property) willfully or maliciously." Is it possible to stretch this definition to this case if we take the preconceived notion that feminism is so toxic that it be deemed destructive? Sure, but if several people are comme…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 11:14 AM
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The repulsive end game of Dworkin's feminism.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 09:58 AM
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they were compiled by the artist collective Femme Future That's a future I want no part of.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:38 AM
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Doesn't bother me. I totally support people wanting to be less puritanical with their bodies.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:08 AM
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I think the "instead of" bit was just really ambiguous. Call me when the mind of a woman wants to make buying men gifts in order to impress them a cultural norm.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:04 AM
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Very interesting, unfortunate about the downvotes. Child abuse should be an important issue for MRAs because many abused boys are swept aside to become offenders of the future. The author says: But it does suggest that we need to do a better job of socializing men to be authoritative, effective, and non-abusive parents But the study only makes an implication that men are abusing the children. Nor does it say whether men are likely to be the second of two partners to be layed off, therefore being…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:53 AM
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Lol, you are a piece of work man I'll give you that.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:44 AM
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New York Times op-ed in April noted that Wikipedia editors had been moving women from the "American Novelists" category to the "American Women Novelists" subcategory. The ridiculous part is that feminists do exactly that, they try to segregate and highlight women's efforts rather than integrate them. Do they realize that most of these men are updating pages about mundane and genderless topics on database protocols and text formats? I hope they enjoy pedantic edit wars and copyright legislation..…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:08 AM
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Commenting just to take solidarity downvotes, because words mean things. This is additive action, not destructive, regardless of anyone's subjective view on feminism.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:05 AM
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Actually, this could be a pretty good case study on the difference between the male and female brain. Males are more likely to want to build content and participate, while females tend to prefer just to consume the content (and there's not necessarily anything wrong with that). Sounds more like a case study in confirmation bias.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 06:00 AM
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No need to get all "cunty", guessing the mana in your name means you're a kiwi. You're making an assumption that other MRAs don't also do volunteer work. Most MRAs have the same belief as you, there are numerous posts here by gay, black, trans etc. men who ask if the MRM is a place for them and the answer is always welcoming. In general, men are in many cases simply incorrectly put up beside other privileged classes. Because of this, there are often articles like this one that discriminate again…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:22 AM
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What a sad show, given that men are less likely to go to University. I don't care about the white part, not a sub to discuss race.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 05:07 AM
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Well, technically they don't think women are smart enough to disagree with feminists. They're "internalized misogynists".
/r/MensRights25/08/13 09:05 PM
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Hey it sounds like it's worth a read for everyone so please, take the time to edit it and resubmit. I physically have trouble reading text like that... if it breaks the text limit, just continue it in the comments.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 12:44 PM
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Slut is widely used as pejorative, if you've ever known teenage girls this is quite apparent. The other popular hashtag was #slaneslut, and it wasn't talking about the guy. The search queries were for slanegirl, not slaneguy, meaning the focus was on her. She had her full name revealed and spread around 4chan et. al, to my knowledge the guy didn't. But regardless of this, studies show that people think more negatively of promiscuous women than they do men. If you are claiming that the twitter sl…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 11:08 AM
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Arguing on twitter is no go in the first place. Twitter is for snark and jokes.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 08:19 AM
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You have given one example, but you haven't said how you feel about men to judge against. Have you ever wished another man harm? In general, you can always go see a counselor about this. Strange place to discuss this but that's ok.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:58 AM
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/r/feminism bans women too.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:47 AM
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Because I believe in gender equality efforts, and feminism is not an actual gender equality movement.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:44 AM
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Goes to show the ridiculous situation we're in where people care more about future potential inequalities against girls more than current ones against boys.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 04:49 AM
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...I was almost the opposite way around. Yes she acknowledges the good in men, but she's advocating chivalry. She's actively saying she didn't have the agency to make a good decision about who to have sex with and it's men's job to make that decision for her. This reeks of traditional viewpoints.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 04:43 AM
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I thought it was disappointing that he didn't have a response to the victim blaming topic, because it made it seem like he was hiding an ulterior motive by acting as if it didn't exist. Very funny though, and a salient point at the end that these people aren't as pro-slut as they think.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 01:44 AM
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Wish I had time to read the full article but quickly before I sleep, Ozy Frantz discussed as similar topics: http://goodmenproject.com/noseriouslywhatabouttehmenz/ozys-law/
/r/MensRights24/08/13 01:54 PM
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All I can say is that MRAs should not be exposing personal details as people like manboobz are connecting details and watching for personal details like hawks. Both the roosh-v forums and manboobz are awful.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 02:35 AM
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Part of this was about age, also part of it was about the fact she had been led previously to believe it was not . Fucking ridiculous that she would get 30k though. In fact being "humiliated" for being a woman sounds like misogyny if there ever was a thing, it's not men's fault she finds having the body of a woman humiliating.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 11:41 PM
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Phew I thought I would miss it because of timezones but found it at blogtalkradio. Really good! About halfway through the discussion on consequences was very interesting. Truly a bizarre situation that given the feminist slogan "woman are just people", but the only people wanting to give women the full range of human experience - obligation, risk, respect, etc (you know, like the heros they so badly want in videogames) are opposing feminists.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:21 PM
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One word. One gender neutral word is all they need to change in order to cover women needing to gain consent and gay relationships.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:19 PM
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So is it really a matter of diproportionate treatment or rather a matter of disproportionate reaction to it? It's both the disproportionate reaction and the types of reactions. MRAs having nothing to lose by showing some compassion here.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:13 PM
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Where are the feminists pushing for job quotas now? Where are the posters shaming women for not working hard and dangerous jobs so that less men die to build our society? Nowhere, because they are not a gender equality movement.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:05 PM
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She was a victim, explaining very human and non-gendered feelings about abuse. MR not being allowed by BestOf is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 12:56 PM
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I totally agree that there is a double standard regarding the display of the guys face. They also call him a "man" but her a girl, not certain of his age. There's also a double standard in the fact that twitter ranted about #slaneslut and how the guy was a champion but she was worthless among other things. This thing sucks overall and the media is shit for spreading it like wildfire.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 12:52 PM

/r/mensrants is a better place for this. No context, nothing, it's just meaningless facebook rage spread around 4chan. God it's disappointing when shit like this skyrockets to the top of the sub that can actually be addressing serious issues.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 12:22 PM
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Exactly. Female pedophiles get less public shaming than this, that's repulsive.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 11:52 AM
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The current unsubstantiated rumours we likely shouldn't be discussing without serious skepticism are that she was sexually assaulted by a different person.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 11:47 AM
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What false accusations. At the moment there are only unsubstantiated allegations.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 11:16 AM
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There are unsubstantiated claims that she has made an accusation (edit: about a different person) or that her drinks were spiked. The media is definitely wanting her to be a victim on this one because it makes a better story. It's god damn awful that they're causing as much bullshit as twitter is.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 10:30 AM
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Hey OP, absolutely and although I feel like I could write a novel on why transwomen benefit from the MRM but I'll say these points. The most disgustingly anti-trans people are feminists. http://theterfs.com/2013/03/02/terf-quotes/ (don't read if you'd rather avoid some really hateful stuff) Feminists claim that trans women are hated for their femininity. Don't fall for this, this is an attempt to steal victimization from true victims like trans women to paint cis women as an oppressed class. Rea…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 10:04 AM
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She was a victim here, because the guy was not cyberbullied like she was. If twitter was erupting about #slaneslut talking about the guy you'd have a point. Not saying he isn't a victim in the (for example being shamed or accused of things), because the true story should be about the person who thought posting it to the net was a good idea. Not nice, people make drunken mistakes, fuck viral internet vigilantism. As for the rape claims, yes. Police are investigating, leave it at that. Edit: Coppi…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 09:52 AM
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It's just a comedian, they often skew things for humour because humour comes from new takes on common experiences. I wouldn't worry about it.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 09:28 AM
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The great fallacy of feminism is that if we push girls "up" men will fall "down" into childcare roles. They'll keep pushing until women are equal to or greater than men in every aspect. Then maybe you'll get interest in boys issues.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:52 AM
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I understand man, not everyone is aggressive or used to being able to call women out on stuff like this because it's a social taboo to do it. Do your best!
/r/MensRights22/08/13 10:42 AM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights22/08/13 10:41 AM
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Lol, even the Jezebel commenters tore them apart for not fronting up about Hugo. What a joke.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 10:34 AM
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Tired of people trying to push the white agenda into men's rights. Yes, I agree there are definitely anti-male sexuality issues in this article, but there doesn't seem to be focused discussion on it in this thread.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 09:31 AM
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How absolutely awful, this is exactly why AVFM is needed as a platform because no feminists are ever willing to speak up about abused boys. Just awful, I'm blown away by how the world can get up in arms about girls being potentially excluded from STEM to the point where they're in every brochure around, and yet find it no problem in completely erasing the idea that boys can be physically abused... sickening. To the feminists lurking this sub, let me tell a good way to produce violent men: ignore…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 09:15 AM
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Citations for that? I'm just interested in the 90s politics part.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 09:02 AM
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Ha, I came across exact same like and was going to link it. $70 price difference? Sounds like OP has a case even if it's just through a third party. Also... your username is highly relevant.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:43 AM
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It's a joke to complain about things such as this as it will never change. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_charge State courts in California, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have ruled that ladies' night discounts are unlawful gender discrimination under state or local statutes. Defeatist attitudes like yours are the things holding back change. Stop being so cynical.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:39 AM
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Yeah seems he has it seriously in for you. You've said some fucked up things btw all documented on his site, but hey being able to sit down and have a beer with someone says a lot.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:24 AM
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This has especially hit early male childcare teachers and teachers in general. Associate Professor Dr. Claire McLachlan discusses it about NZ here and the NZ ECC here. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but western countries where feminism is prevalent are certainly in this together.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:11 AM
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I'm polite but not quiet. After seeing this argument played out many times, I think you need both good cop and bad cop to make change.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:57 AM
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Never mind actual work place hazards in which men are vastly overrepresented...
/r/MensRights21/08/13 01:46 AM
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He actually says: My calculations for the survey in 2000 indicate an underlying non-paternity rate for children born in that year of somewhere between 1.3 per cent and 3.4 per cent. So your comment is a little misleading, it seems there is considerable debate on the topic.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:36 AM
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Hi OP, very sorry to hear about your situation. One option might be a site like shrink4men, lots of advice there and it has a support forum for men that have dealt with abusive women. Whereever you are, I suggest looking at your local DV resources and find a number that he can call for advice. Above all, talk with him and be there for support, remind him that there are other options he can take to get out.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:20 AM
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Such bullshit, I've posted about it regularly and just guess who the only people who have responded negatively to my comments have been? Feminists.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:12 AM
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Stuff like this.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:07 AM
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Male birth control please. It's clear that the legal rights and knowledge for men comes last in these situations, all the best you can do is protect yourself. How crushing for that father that found out his kids weren't biologically his.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:56 AM
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Yeah, lose 10lb in 3 days! Killer name btw, one of my favourite albums.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 10:53 AM
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Agreed. Sure, buy protein powder for it being cheap and easy instead of carrying chicken around in your pockets. But chocolate milk is about as effective as most of the shakes they throw around. I'm sure if people knew how much of their muscle was made of water they'd be selling water supplements.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 10:30 AM
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That's a hellish dystopia I want no part of.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 08:59 AM
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I totally understand how photoshopped images of women on magazine covers would affect women, but it would be good to have some of the mass news machine speak up about expectations for men. Even the incredible hulk has a more realistic level of body fat than most bbers http://www.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hulk4112012-500x675.jpg http://jimmysmithtraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/jay_cutler_2010_olympia1.jpg
/r/MensRights19/08/13 08:46 AM
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The supplement industry is a joke, kids getting into it have no idea how much money they're wasting of magic pills that don't work. And the ones that do are so illegal and fraught with health issues that obtaining them illegally just worsens the problem.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 08:42 AM
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A fair write up, you've come to many of the same ideas that others in the MRM have after trying to discuss these issues with feminists. A few points: This type of patriarchy may still exist It can be proven statistically to still exist, it doesn't matter where you live I guarantee your politicians are mostly men. objectified by their success No need to try and use feminist words to create a mirror image. Gender doesn't have to be perfectly symmetrical and I see people often weakening their argum…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 07:30 AM
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So sorry to hear that OP. This is a serious issue regarding divorce in particular, because men's suicide rates skyrocket after divorce while there is no statistical change on women's suicide rates. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/03/14/broadcasts/main172016.shtml
/r/MensRights19/08/13 07:15 AM
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It would be nice but at least the first question was implicitly countering that stereotype.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 11:15 AM
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So you're saying No I don't remember saying any of those things.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 09:33 AM
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I agree, regardless of gender this would be an unpleasant mistake to make and unsettling if someone wanted to attack you. However, the discussion on slut shaming is on it's gendered slant, that sexual promiscuity towards men is seen as a more viable, harmful way of insulting a woman.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 02:59 AM
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If by weasel you mean argue, then strap a tail on me. You exude everything I dislike about feminists, popularity of opinion over logic, "it's not my job to educate you", trying to simply get me to leave, failing to respond to arguments, and then leaving on a high horse. The fact that she was targeted her sexual behaviour is slut shaming by definition.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 02:53 AM
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but several other people have made the same statements I have about the situation. Oh it must be true then... The fact that she was targeted her sexual behaviour is slut shaming by definition, regardless of whether it was delivered through 1 bitchy comment or a landslide of sociopathic bullying. Slut shaming is a gendered difference to be exploited, not the exploitation itself.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 02:12 AM
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And what did they bully her about? Perhaps it was about exposing her body sexually? I don't think you understand what "slut-shaming" is. Please take your opinions elsewhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut-shaming Slut shaming (also hyphenated, as slut-shaming) is a label for social control of sexuality by exposing a woman to shame for engaging in - or being perceived to engage in - unlawful, abnormal or unethical sexual behavior. Some behaviors and events which may expose women to "slut-shami…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 01:50 AM
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but has little to do with slut-shaming. Apart from the part where they blackmailed her regarding pictures of her body and she developed anxiety disorders from it. If "just ignore it" was a solution MRAs agreed with then feel free to explain the "Don't be that girl/guy" debacle.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 01:36 AM
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Oh absolutely. But to say slut shaming wasn't a big part of how she felt early on isn't right. She developed anxiety disorders because she was so terrified those pictures would get out.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 01:26 AM
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I don't consider slut-shaming a serious issue. One can simply ignore it without real consequence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd
/r/MensRights18/08/13 01:18 AM
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I totally agree with this and the original article too. This is what feminism would look like if it was an actual gender equality movement. She at no point blamed men or misogyny, and put obligation on women to not always be the star of the show, to have to put in hard work and be just a face in the background at some point, the henchmen and the solider.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:23 AM
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The summary was totally wrong imo, I suggest you read the article.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:20 AM
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Much of feminism is seen as a problem by the MRM. You as a feminist will be welcome in the MRM as long as whatever feminist theory that conflicts with the MRM behind. If you go around saying "As a feminist..." you're going to be invoking the image of a litany of things MRAs disagree with it and it will be seen as an attempt at apologetics. Leave the label behind when you come here and you'll be fine. I'd guess to many feminists, you wouldn't be one. Currently the adversarial "talking shit" is ju…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:05 AM
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Aww shit I love Mandy Morbid, she has the best tits in the world.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 11:28 PM
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I think gender roles for black men aren't being given enough attention within the MRA movement. Thanks for the comment it was interesting. Yeah, it's tough mainly because of the lack of racial diversity here. This is racial diversity in SRS and this is the MR sub. There is definitely space for more MR voices and they are out there.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 09:39 AM
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But the effect is policy and law that hates, degrades and punishes men, for being men Right, but people don't understand that when you jump straight to "feminists hate men". Try and be a little more tactful and people will jump on board with you.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 12:35 AM
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Most people on reddit are white, both in this sub and SRS, so I hope the AA MRAs won't mind me talking tangentially in a thread directed to them. Downvote me if there are minority voices in this thread and let me know what you think of my post. Personally I think one of the biggest way feminists eliminate minority men from gender discussions is by targeting "white men". This does two things: Unsurprisingly it contradicts their whole intersectionality theory by excluding white women from criticis…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:13 PM
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Just for reddit ones.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:02 PM
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Slaves are people whether or not they are recognized as people.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:01 PM
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Why should women have to do anything when they can bully and shame men into doing it for them?
/r/MensRights15/08/13 11:51 AM
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FYI, screenshots are not helpful because they can be faked. In the future, you can use a service like http://archive.is/ to be an impartial third party backup.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 11:50 AM
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AMR are a meta linking sub. They essentially thrive only on MR (I would hate to use the word parasite...). Good thing is they don't really vote brigade because they a) don't have enough members and b) don't want to make MR look better by downvoting comments. If anything, they're more likely to be an upvote brigade.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 11:40 AM
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So when a black woman commits a hate crime against a white boy There is no evidence it's a hatecrime. /r/WhiteRights can do whatever it wants. Articles posted here should focus on gender, not race. Pretty simple, and the only reason these posts are allowed here is tenous as it is for the WBB aspect.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:30 AM
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I guess my follow-up question then, is how is a person supposed to report on a racially-motivated crime except by reporting on a racially-motivated crime? There was no reporting or evidence mentioned of racial motivation. I don't come to this sub to discuss race because it's about gender.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:22 AM
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Hah I missed that aye, got to "black woman" and sort of skimmed the rest of the expected buzzwords.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 10:14 AM
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Feminism's hatred of nice guys is one of the single most ridiculous spectacle I've seen. It shows pretty clearly these modern tumblr types care only for a steamroller of female privilege. They want to have their cake and eat it too, every guy should fill the ultra traditional role of being a man except also telepathically never make a woman uncomfortable in any way. "Equality".
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:33 AM
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The biggest con feminists ever pulled was to attack all men under the guise of rich white men, despite the fact that most feminists are rich and white.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:26 AM
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If feminists practiced what they preached and actually cared about social justice from the standpoint they claim, they would be a race equality movement first and a women's equality movement last.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:23 AM
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This is a shitty article written with a poorly hidden racial aspect. Post better sources: http://abcnews.go.com/US/women-charged-death-grader-jonathan-foster/story?id=12500167 What a shattering story. edit: Also this story is 3 years old...
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:12 AM
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like we need any more proof feminist tend to be hypocritical. Yeah actually all proof is quite helpful.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:57 AM
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Holy christ Anita is a giant, disgusting hypocrite. She links certain depictions of male fantasy characters saving female fantasy characters causes domestic violence, but endorses violent fantasies against real people.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 12:54 AM
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The idea of the oppressed white man is so absolutely ass backwards What is it with you anti-male drones that make you think men = white? Do you realize how racist it is to eliminate minority men from gender discussions? When it comes to people like you I breathe a sigh of relief that it really doesn't matter what you think, statistics on domestic violence, homelessness, incarceration, violence etc. show clearly that your apex fallacies are a joke.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:29 AM
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I totally agree OP. Gender Sexual Minorities are done an absolute disservice by a circus of female victimhood.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:11 AM
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In NZ, a recent study showed women kill and abuse more children than men do. http://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/227441/children-most-often-killed-mothers Yet men are going to bear the brunt of this, especially given the White Ribbon campaigns around NZ that falsely present men as domestic abusers.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:04 AM
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What they left out was that up to 12% of rape claims in NZ are believed to be false by police. I wrote about it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/16gpy3/false_accusation_and_false_compliants_of_rape_new/ I don't mind action to make the process less traumatic for victims, this relies on the honesty of NZ judges.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 08:02 AM
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Yes well said. I think focus should have stopped on Hugo once he admitted he was suicidal, I don't know why they're interviewing him and such now. But despite that he let rip a goldmine of criticisms of feminism, regardless of whether or not he intended for them to be criticisms of himself only.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 07:54 AM
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Heartbreaking is right, especially the "No Dream" statement. However the original images were removed for ethical reasons, so I don't quite think this should be shared around.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 01:13 AM
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Do you think it's the case that male students receive less of an education/are taught less, or do you think it's a case of being marked down harshly? I believe it's a combination of social messages about female empowerment/male toxicity making boys feeling less driven to achieve/teachers to be more harsh on boys, a lack of male role models in teaching, and a lack of messages giving boys an alternative to traditional male models of success. I'm not sold yet on teaching methods being anti-boys, bu…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 12:32 PM
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It's unwise to assume someone is a feminist and a woman without evidence. Especially given this poster is clearly male.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 12:20 PM
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(I have my doubts, maybe it's different here in the UK). I have read that in the UK feminists have had less governmental influence. Like I literally read that an hour ago and can't find the link now, sorry. One thing I did notice going through school is that girls used to concentrate a lot more than boys did, so they'd require less effort to keep under control. Girls mature more quickly than boys early on, and it's not until after puberty that boys catch up. However studies have shown that femal…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:43 AM
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Didn't need the last sentence, there's no need for rMR to be some kind of safe space against criticism.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:17 AM
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First off, it would make it a New Zealand gender problem. Secondly, no-one gave me the memo that only certain western countries are covered by the MRM. But non the less, once again, healthy skepticism. Until thirdly, you realize this problem is global to western countries. Christina Hoff Sommers wrote a book about in the US (or here if you prefer). Even feminists like Michael Kimmel admit it's a global problem. http://www.government.se/sb/d/12821/a/149463 Let me tell you as a kiwi, NZ isn't that…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:12 AM
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Data? Sure, here is an expert on boys education in NZ who lists a litany of statistics. Some choice cuts: At Excellence level the gap is even greater. In 2005 girls gained 75 per cent more excellence passes at Level 1 and 57 per cent more in Level 2 and there were 50 per cent more female Outstanding Scholars. Although the gender gap varies in size, it is comprehensive. Of 296 external achievement standards, girls outperformed boys in 258, mainly in culture or performing arts, literacy, human bio…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:38 AM
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Dr. Paul Baker wrote extensively on this problem here. He says, Girls can do anything. Is that a sufficient explanation of the dramatic rise of the gender gap in the early 1990's. I've struggled to identify any other obvious factor. Further to this, the Ministry of Women's Affairs seems to gleefully state that "In education women continue to outperform men." http://mwa.govt.nz/new-zealand-women Where is the Ministry of Men's Affairs, given all this movement towards gender equality? Well, it cons…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:19 AM
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4chan doesn't care much for social issues. You are far, far more likely to get ddosing and trolling out of this than support, and people like the hate mongerers in /pol/ are the last people you want associated with men's rights.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 08:35 AM
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So it's all right for you to brigade people and other subreddits but not okay for others to do it to you? If MRAs were trying to kill posts in other subs so they don't get discussed I would agree they should be banned, mainly if it was organized. However I don't actually believe in banning for following links. What I believe is that the admins have been very vague in what constitutes vote cheating, and one-sided in enforcing the rules. If no-one speaks up then they'll keep being one-sided in the…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 10:00 PM
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http://metareddit.com/stalk?user=Ripowal I'm certain I saw SRS history, if you didn't delete any of your history I have messed up and I apologize. I'll update the post, thanks for mentioning it.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 09:52 PM
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Ouch! They were not happy lol. I think the brigading thing has just been touchy lately because the admins have been extremely unclear about what is and isn't brigading. Since they've banned /r/slur and /r/SRSSucks members like flies, if they don't do it for similar examples they've got awkward questions to anwser ignore. I honestly don't mind at all if SRS users flood our sub (I think it'd be great to have an open discussion), but I do care if they're deliberately silently killing links so MRAs …
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:23 PM
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These stories conjure supernatural situations in which domestic violence perpetrated by men against women who’ve “lost control of themselves” not only appears justified but is actually presented as an altruistic act done “for the woman’s own good”. Of course, if you look at any of these games in isolation, you will be able to find incidental narrative circumstances that can be used to explain away the inclusion of violence against women as a plot device. But just because a particular event might…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:07 PM
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I agree, however I think her analysis is onesided and focused on only expanding female fantasies. That is male disposability at it's core.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 11:52 AM
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[X-Post] Possibly the thing that bothers me the most is her eyebrows? Seriously, I go to /r/MakeupAddiction once and now I can't unsee eyebrows... Criticisms: Dude in Distress. I really dislike the way word "dude" and "bro" are used here and in certain circles (especially Jezebel). Not all men are dudes and bros, and you know effeminate men who would like to be rescued by a woman probably aren't chugging beers and watching MMA, babe. She says direct gender flips do not suffice. The only implicat…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 11:51 AM
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I'm guessing it's coming. No, I was banned for a similar escapade. I would show you how benign and civilized it was, but they removed it. Can't confirm whether or not I was banned previously (more discussion in AMR), I might have been caught in the spam filter but at least now you can see what I was talking about: http://np.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/1gugop/stuff_women_say_men_do_definitely_lies/
/r/MensRights02/08/13 11:30 AM

People targeting specific threads to be downvoted so there can't be any discussion to disagree with is the vote brigading I'm trying to tackle. I'm all for bloody battles fought in the open space that is MensRights, I actually invite people to stop being a coward like yourself and consistently post real discussions with a real account.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 09:16 AM
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Did you even read my post? I'm not angry about it at all, I think discussion on it is fine. Which is exactly why a concerted effort to kill discussion in rMR is so egregiously wrong.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 05:32 AM
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Great post, really good. Especially since it wasn't about shoe-horning race into the MRM (like feminists pushed social justice into atheism), but showing how the MRM tackles issues disproportionate to black men.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 12:37 PM
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Yeah agreed. White knight can be helpful to explain behaviour where men hurt each other for women's comfort, like this, as opposed to just sticking up for them. Mangina is just... no. It's used in just the same way to emasculate men as "faggot" or "pussy" is.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 12:03 PM
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It's a damn shame they didn't explicitly dispell the biggest myth: That you can't be raped by a girl or girls don't engage in sexually aggressive behaviour (maybe they did on another page). edit: Didn't even notice you're a kiwi OP, makes me glad these programs are now out there :) Was this an all boys school?
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:47 AM
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They need to extend and support the Men's Sheds program. I'm sure the women's lobby in AU that has over 180 organisations can spare some petty cash out of the 5 million they're getting granted.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:45 AM
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Emotional, simple and illogical - young women are pursuing intellectual topics like philosophy, engineering and math at much lower rates than men. And the solution to improving their intellect is to stop slacking in school. You'll never read that said about women (and rightly so). But it's amazing at the way men's and women's issues are discussed. When women and girls have issues, it's "the system" and "sexism" that's causing their gendered outcomes. But men and boys? Well everything is all thei…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:39 AM
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Is :b a smiley face?
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:24 AM
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Awful. I find it absolutely ridiculous that these people raging against "patriarchy" are using the very idea that men are invincible machines incapable of suffering to bully a man into silence. He sums it up perfectly here: The irony in being told to dry up the man tears by an alleged feminist would be hilarious if it weren't sickening. Also pirakka says: However, this is not a perfectly equal world. Women tend to face threats of violence, or often actual violence, for expressing their opinions,…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 10:44 AM
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Meh, you started off ok but failing to actually tackle TBs core argument you went off the rail pretty quick.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 09:48 AM
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Yeah the wording there really meant "more likely", I missed it mirroring the other poster.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 11:41 AM
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It's called the privilege of those with minority power. Except women aren't a literal minority. And they weren't forced to fight in wars for the benefit of men etc. They recieved plenty of privileges above men, and to fight to keep those privileges while moving towards equality is just anti-male sexism.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 11:29 AM
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Hey fellow kiwi. Pretty unbelievable. It's actually funny because here is a massive 2001 article in North & South about discrimination in the family court against men. Including such quotes as: This is despite three American studies showing up to 50 per cent of sexual abuse claims made during custody proceedings were false. Today a boy can easily go all the way through to high-school without ever having a male teacher. NZ is not going to be a better country by having less father involvement.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 11:04 AM
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You're right. But the other side of the coin is "men = likely to be a politician", like "whites = likely to be a politician". Or "men = likely to earn a higher wage", like "whites = likely to earn a higher wage". Unlike minorities, women are 50% of the population. Unlike race, there are significant biological differences between men and women. These sorts of conflating arguments obscure the nature of gender. And unlike your argument, this poster puts men in the place of whites which shows just h…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 08:42 AM
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Great post, I agree. It's clear UK Feminista doesn't give a rats ass about children, this is definitely about male sexuality and images of women. Cosmopolitan has the word sex splattered in huge text across every issue and there's a bias towards giving leniency to female sexuality. Apparantly this is ok (with 4 mentions of the word sex), but this isn't. Feminists are getting to determine what sort of sexuality is ok and it's no surprise they don't . I'm actually fine with less sexualized images …
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:51 AM
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Actually, I can't stand people trying to compare racism and sexism as if the dynamic is the same.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:30 AM
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Media representation, which is where the bulk of objectification is focused. I disagree with the notion that there is a respectful line between appreciating someone physically and "reducing" them to a body. Treating people with respect goes without saying. IMO everyone has fallen hook line and sinker to respond to the word objectification as if it was negative, because feminists have been using that word as a weapon for so long.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 09:10 PM
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Yeah that would be a double standard, but it's not what I'm saying. I'm saying sexual objectification is not inherently negative (I see it as having physical value), it's just something we do to women more than we do men. So with a little less objectifying of women, and a little more objectification of men, we would be treating men and women more equally. Well known feminists have also supported the idea in theory. edit: To clarify I'm simplifying my opinion hugely to refute this point.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 11:19 AM
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To be fair you've selected a few articles out of the thousands Jezebel has published, and are not including the entire article. Those headlines are supposed to be controversial to grab your and they always write those stupid intros. Also I actually agree with the sexual objectification point and not even sure what your issue with the pegging article even is - do you think pegging is wrong somehow? As an example, Lindy West in another article wrote "But, of course, as a person who is opposed to n…
/r/MensRights28/07/13 09:19 AM
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Sure there is. AMR/SRS trolls are narcissistic enough to care, otherwise they'd show some personal restraint instead of going to the trouble to make an alt. And secondly I enjoy seeing if people have legitimate points or not. Feel free to downvote them and move on, I don't care.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 10:28 AM
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Whose the dumbass? Did you actually read the article or only make it to the first sentence?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 08:54 AM
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This is /r/mensrights. Fuck off with your race discussions.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:59 AM
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Something that has nothing to do with men, so doesn't belong in this sub.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:59 AM
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Not the place for this comment, it has nothing to do with men. Try /r/whiterights.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:58 AM
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Sorry to hear that man.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 11:50 AM
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This is in the FAQ: How does r/MR and the MRM feel about LGBT rights/issues/communities? Officially, r/MR supports the LGBT communities, and universal equal rights for people independent of gender, ethnicity, gender assignment and sexual orientation. r/MR also recognizes that there are already many communities devoted to these topics, which is why they are not common on r/MR. There is a great deal of intersection between Gay Rights and Men's Rights, for example, and such topics do appear on occa…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:09 AM
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I 100% agree. I have argued with several feminists about the phrase "white men" before, because you know who benefits from being excluded from that criticism? White women.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 10:31 AM
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Certainly the oldest troll account I've seen in a while. Sorry, but just because it's low hanging fruit doesn't mean it's ok. In fact I'd say the opposite is true, so you can take your sarcasm elsewhere.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 10:00 AM
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Make a complaint. It's easy, and there are anonymous methods of doing it if you don't want to put your name down.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 08:10 AM
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This was great. It perfectly heads off both the lethargic and legitimate criticisms of the campaign. Calling Gotell out directly was important because otherwise she's just seen as an academic on a high horse. If our campaign is insulting to women and survivors, the original campaign is equally insulting to decent, law-abiding men. No doubt to them however, it just feels worse when we do things to women. It just hurts less when it happens to men.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:48 AM
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Thanks for the post, I wish there would be more engagement from those who claim to care about the 20% but don't like the rest. that you're at least willing to tolerate some dissent and criticism I haven't seen much non-trolling dissent or criticism disallowed here, manhood academy spam and HarrietPotter alts are probably the majority of it. Personally I find TRPers not to be an extreme of MR, but a completely different direction.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 07:55 AM
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Well hey, good job. I honestly think presentation goes a huge way, infographs can get hundreds of thousands of views when shared around social media sites, and crappy aliased paint.exe images in comic sans do the stats serious injustice.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 02:07 AM
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Nice OP! I'm going to keep spamming these links so people know how to make their own: http://infogr.am/ http://piktochart.com/ http://visual.ly/
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:49 PM
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They barely gave anyone time to speak, silly news story but hey any discussion is good.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:44 PM
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You might enjoy this OP: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/ This is a summarization of feminist philosophical viewpoints on objectification. tl;dr - even some feminists concede that objectification may not be inherently oppressive. ...on the other hand I have read other feminists that think even physical attraction is problematic.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:41 PM
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The "by a woman" caveat isn't needed, because it's a great argument full stop. "I rest my fucking case" made me laugh, I feel sorry for all the "internalized misogyny" comments she's going to receive.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:22 AM
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This is the most intellectually bankrupt post on the concept of death vs. torture I have seen yet, bravo.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:12 AM
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I think it's safe to say we are discussing reality.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 10:10 AM
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God damn Marcotte is an unpleasant person. Things I take away from this: Feminists are actually deluded enough to simultaneously believe men's rights is like white rights, and they can concede points to the validity of men's rights She and other feminists are being forced to change by the MRM. If the MRM didn't exist, she wouldn't be saying this. As hesitant as she is, she's the one forced to give validity to the existence of the MRM and the more MRAs shout the more people are going to be forced…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 07:03 AM
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A study earlier this year found there were now more jobs in the UK which required a degree than were available for those without any qualifications. All the more reason to focus on why women make up the majority of university graduates.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 10:29 AM
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Poverty.uk on issues surrounding employments and NEETs. Four-fifths of young adult suicides are males. 26% of all White British boys eligible for free school meals do not obtain 5 or more GCSEs. This is a much higher proportion than that for any other combination of gender, ethnic group and eligibility for free school meals. Among 16-year-olds, more girls than boys continue in full-time education. Three times as many boys are found guilty of, or cautioned for, indictable offences as girls but th…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 10:28 AM
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The reason why many men see encouragement of femininity as an attack on masculinity is because the encouragement of femininity is disingenuous. There has been no real change in the respect, reasons or rewards for men to be feminine at all, so the message "be more feminine" is a coded "be less masculine because I don't like it". When the reason you're pushing men to be more feminine is not for their wellbeing, but for women's, you are cornering men into an impossible box. The hidden double standa…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 09:16 AM
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The most comprehensive review of the scholarly domestic violence research literature ever conducted concludes, among other things, that women perpetrate physical and emotional abuse, as well as engage in control behaviors, at comparable rates to men. www.prweb.com/releases/2013/5/prweb10741752.htm edit: Women report more, and are more likely to be victims of fatal injuries, but they perform comparable acts of violence. Also, please take a look at the page linked in the sidebar of this sub.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 09:11 PM
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I don't have much of an issue with this. They're right that men do kill their partners more than the reverse, and this seems like a good method to protect those women that have been identified as victims of severe violence and stalking. Don't get me wrong, a lot of domestic violence is not gendered in this way, but I don't see a reason not to help support the separation of violent couples. The important part is that it should of course not be restricted to violent men.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 06:37 AM
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The target is men (for GPS units) because men are typically the aggressors. Do you have citations for that? I have read that women are more likely to initiate violence.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 06:31 AM
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To be fair, it didn't sound like English was her strong point.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 06:27 AM
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Nice, did you make this? A small PSA here: I you are going to make an infograph, putting time into the presentation goes an incredible way. And it's really easy, just check out there tools: http://infogr.am/ http://piktochart.com/ http://visual.ly/
/r/MensRights16/07/13 06:25 AM
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You can replace male/female toilets with whites/blacks and it's fucked up too. I don't think this is the right analogy here.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:03 AM
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It's safe to assume she had a comfy closet she stayed in. Or you know, more safe that she really hated men. Can you give any reputable sources that bell hooks is lesbian? If you're interested I'll replace Simone then if sexually liberal is out the window. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Sheppard
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:15 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_de_Beauvoir (starting point of second wave feminism) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Friedan (started second wave feminism) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_hooks (started black feminism) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharine_MacKinnon (co-lead anti-porn feminism with Dworkin) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf (lead third wave feminism)
/r/MensRights16/07/13 12:30 AM
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Which is back to you saying there "seems" to be something intrinsic about lesbianism that makes lesbians hate men. Shrugging your shoulders and saying "that's the way it looks!" doesn't absolve you of what you're saying. There is no need to mention lesbian, just as there's no need to mention they're disproportionately vegan or pagan. Also pretty much every major feminist leader from 1850 onwards was a lesbian. That's just false.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 10:28 PM
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What difference does it make if a man hating feminist is also a lesbian?
/r/MensRights15/07/13 09:21 PM
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Sounds pretty homophobic. Sure if they're political lesbians, but otherwise I stop at "man hating". I don't care what someone's sexuality is if they hate men, a lot of lesbians have to fight the stereotype you're putting forward.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 09:10 PM
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Sure I agree, some people just don't care about offense in comparison to issues. But you can hardly say MRA logic has a monopoly on insults on the opposite gender - though I'm guessing you'll dismiss me as I'm clearly a creepy fedora wearing neckbeard shitlord loser rapist who women should stay far away from.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 07:48 AM
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Lol - I guarantee half of that 42 are MRAs anyway. Most feminists (and women) don't hang around on reddit. Facebook, tumblr... every academic institution. But regardless, having 75K subscribers since 2008 is huge. Also that AVFM has now eclipsed sites like Feministing in page views. This is only really the beginning, I wish I could have been born 50 years in the future, but alas I guess we all feel that way about a lot of topics.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:54 AM
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Thanks for the post, totally agree. I think it's definitely unfair for all the women who don't want to be valued purely on their looks, but you're right that it's not men that is the enemy here. Capitalism works pretty well, if women wanted to buy something other than Cleo and Cosmopolitan they would buy them.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:47 AM
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Get real dude. Some of the best MRAs are women and the most out there opposition to the MRM normally comes from giant white knights. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:40 AM
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Seems to me like it's a bunch of power hungry ladies who don't want competition for their glory or being "female academics". You're right that a skew was there. But if you truly think discrimination is unfair, then trying to chalk it up to women doesn't seem right. Looking at the discrepancies, I think your capitalizations are slightly overstated. Regardless, it doesn't matter so much to me who is doing the discriminating (which was definitely still male academics), it's still a valid response t…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:24 PM
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FYI the AMR crew doesn't seem to have liked your comment, which is likely where the downvotes are coming from.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:00 PM
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I'm sorry, are you going to explain what you feel the problem with the study? I personally would kill for nutrition studies to be as run like this, if you think this is bunk you might want to throw out the majority of health advice you've heard. These smaller concrete studies tie into larger ones like the 2006 meta analysis Beyond Bias and Barriers which show the same effect. It isn't a secret round table of old white men trying to keep women down, just pervasive and subtle bias based on traditi…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 12:08 PM
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From memory the vast majority of the "discrimination" was actually done by FEMALE professors. No, that is incorrect. Perhaps you are thinking of something else, if you read the summary it says "The bias had no relation to the professors’ age, sex, teaching field or tenure status." And even if it was, so? Most judges are men, that doesn't mean discrimination against men in the court system doesn't matter. I'm so tired of playing these oppression olympics, it's not a loss to the men's rights movem…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 11:37 AM
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That's how dangerous lies like Mary Koss's rape "study" become commonly accepted and repeated. I think it's because feminists post studies even knowing that they have been discredited in the past while not disclosing their flaws. Again, did you actually read the article? I would be interested as to what you think could be faulty about a randomized double blind study purposefully designed to be the simplest possible. yet you complain that men are "skeptical" of some claims No, I didn't at all. Fi…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:48 AM
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