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There's no need to bring this up, especially as it has no relationship to being held responsible for any action False accusation is an action which is supposed to be followed by responsibility, but it rarely happens, that's what I meant. Having a small penis is not an action either Yeah, but using bodyshaming language on social media is. Women can do it with no repercussions even after their tweet gets millions of likes, yet a man in the same situation would be cancelled on sight. What does real…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:54 PM
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about "people", I'm talking about the proportion of men in women in this scenario. Don't shift the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:18 PM
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Still, men can't get away with nearly as many false accusation as women do. Don't shift the goalpost. Also the fact that even just 1 man has ever been charged for false accusation is horrifying enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:16 PM
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Yes, but less so when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:11 PM
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Men are actually punished less severely and held less responsible for their actions. That's probably why women can go around accusing random men of rape with no consequences unless there's a ton of evidence to the contrary. That's also why women can freely use body shaming language on social media like "small dick energy", for which any man would be cancelled instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:01 PM
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I'm just saying I don't think it's healthy for young people to be "learning" about life from the internet rather than from actual life experiences. These online spaces have a clear tendency to breed negativity and i think young people would do better to learn life lessons from living life rather than from what people say on the internet People in real life will never tell them they have to get in the gym and become financially stable to get laid unless they have top 10% genetics, they keep being…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:45 PM
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Well to be fair the most common and hurtful insult a woman can hurl at a man is saying his dick is inferior in some way despite it not being on the top of her priority list when looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:00 PM
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Sure. I did date a short overweight loser. I dated a couple of them This being past simple means you don't date them now, so what does that tell you? They weren't enough to keep you. And even then, I don't think you chose to date those short overweight losers OVER a tall successful guy, you did that because you couldn't get a tall successful guy interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:57 PM
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Their preferences..?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:54 PM
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Honesty != dating advice. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:41 PM
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It does the same thing when you're not sleeping. It's just you get massive a return on investment when people actually see you in it, far outweighing the damage you do to your health. While if you sleep in it you only do damage with no benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:37 PM
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Don't try to spin demanding honesty as being something negative, you will fail miserably. Men are programmed from the early childhood to perceive women as angels who'd never tell a lie or do wrong. Also I don't know if you noticed, but men are actively trying to discourage women from giving dating advice, especially to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:33 PM
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Yeah, I guess you're right. But personally it makes me sad because it also means I myself have to be politically correct to not be an outcast, which means nobody will ever want to take the burden of being a "revolutionist" when it comes to changing this societal programming. And despite RP's growing popularity SO many men will still get misled and led to misery because they are programmed from the very early age to believe that all women are angels and would never tell a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:29 PM
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Most women are biologically hardwired and evolutionary programmed to be socially agreeable It's not biological, it's societal programming. It also comes from a selfish standpoint, NOT an altruistic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:22 PM
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Who says you need to sabotage someone? Just acknowledging the fact that you're indirectly competing with them is enough. Trust me, you're not securing a millionaire for yourself if you're a 5/10 in the current world, but if all 5 and above women but you suddenly disappeared you'd be able to get whatever men you want. It's a matter of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:17 PM
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Wonder why everything's in past simple. Also wonder why you think having done something that's generally considered undesirable means you did that out of a choice rather than a lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:16 PM
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Yes, I guess we are all forced to wear a mask of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:14 PM
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Not really, look at the rise of redpill's popularity, more and more men are waking up which means more and more men are on getting set on the winning path. You don't have to hear it from women's mouth necessarily, you can simply trust smart men to present some stats and find an absurd discrepancy between what type of men women say they want and who they actually pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:11 PM
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Even then she won't say anything of substance. She'll just whine about patriarchy and sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:10 PM
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You're not competeing directly - it's happening indirectly, just like in the global market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:47 PM
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They also go to sleep with makeu-- oh wait, no they don't. Hm, I wonder what could be the reason...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:46 PM
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men waste half the pixels here trying to convince women to date men women aren’t attracted to You're delusional if you think that. Men here aren't trying to dictate what women should like, they are trying to convince women to be honest and transparent about their true preferences instead of hiding behind the mask of political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:42 PM
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Right, you'd rather date a short overweight loser as long as he isn't redpilled. Ironically, every man who most women want inadvertently follows the main red pill beliefs focused on self-improvement, it's just he hasn't necessarily learnt of the term yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:40 PM
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How can you look at this sub and the things self proclaimed "red pill" people say and believe that the main pillar being represented is not "women are shallow and will replace you" when that's literally all people talk about here? What people here say doesn't change the original red pill concept. Young boys don't need to be taught that their biggest concerns in life are what women think of them and getting laid Red pill doesn't teach them to care about what women think of them, while getting lai…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:04 PM
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There's no way getting into the redpill at a young age is doing anything good for the self esteem of children. Why do you think red pill came to be in the first place? Because blue pill is making young men miserable as it's not a practical dating strategy for them in this day and age. Red pill's main pillar is self-improvement, not "women are shallow and they will replace you as soon as they find a better option". Negative effects of social media and porn have nothing to do with redpill, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:54 PM
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Can't really think of a single double standard that benefits men in dating other than being able to sleep around without being judged for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:16 PM
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I don't agree that those are primary wants for all women. I never said they are primary, let alone for all women. I said they are simply wants, which you just acknowledged. Damn, you're really on fire with those strong and definitive words.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:12 PM
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I don't agree that women are all going for a rich, tall, and conventionally attractive man. I love it when people swap words, covertly changing the meaning of the statement so it favors their argument. Let's take a look at what I said again, shall we? "Women who want attractive, tall and rich men which is the majority of women are just as dehumanizing and objectifying." Do you know the difference between "want" and "go for"? "Want" means they desire something, but aren't necessarily able to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:06 PM
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I'm pretty blunt, in-your-face type of guy. Some people don't like it, I guess it's understandable. We live in a world of political correctness and social constructs after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:35 PM
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Nobody genuinely believes a woman's personality is irrelevant, everyone understands however that a woman's value is primarily determined by her looks and age which are kinda tied to each other, that's what opens the door to having a chance of securing commitment from HVM for them. What happens onwards is up to their personality. It's just people like to overly exaggerate because woman's looks are disproportionately more important than man's, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:31 PM
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I made 0 assumptions. I never claimed what women SHOULD want, I only stated what they want by default, while the original comment was clearly expressing discontent with male preferences and dictating what men should value to be considered "humane". I do believe most women want tall, attractive and rich men, I do realize however that very few women are able to get a man who ticks all these boxes, so they have to settle for less. It's just you're implying "want" means "will only settle for", which…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:47 PM
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SMV doesn't matter once you're already in a relationship indeed, however, everyone wants to get the best product for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:54 PM
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How did you come to that conclusion my brudda.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:52 PM
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Ok, good point about nuanced conversations. The nuance when it comes to our discussion is that your older sister dating a broke guy doesn't disprove the existence of hypergamy, because hypergamy doesn't claim that all women only date men of higher income, it claims MOST women do so, and your sister is simply not the part of that MOST.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:49 PM
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Fine. There are people who are born with 4 or 6 fingers on one hand instead of 5, should we stop referring to humans having 5 fingers as a rule because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:39 PM
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It is also very difficult to have more than 1 head on your shoulders, yet there are people who are born with such mutation. Should we stop referring to humans having 1 head as a rule because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:34 PM
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Your conflate SMV with subjective value. SMV is determined by the general quality of partners you're able to attract, subjective value is self-explanatory. There are men who care mostly about a woman's character and they'll date a fat girl who's a nice and loving partner, however, the fat girl's SMV is still not considered higher than that of a bitchy but hot chick. SMV is about the market as a whole, not individual customer's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:28 PM
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most people date within their social class. A woman making 20K and a man making 30k are in the same damn social sphere. She’s not dating up. She dating within her league. Yes, keyword MOST. But there are plenty of men who know what's up and they choose to date women much younger than them which obviously means large income disparity, however, there are barely if any older women seeking young guys for relationships, simply because young guys are only in the beginning of their financial journey an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:19 PM
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Hypergamy isn't about being wealthy, it's about being wealthier than your partner. Are you sure you understand the definition correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:43 PM
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So we don't have stats proving that in the vast majority of couples a man earns more money and that financials is the main cause for divorce, a.k.a women tend to lose attraction to their man as soon as they start outearning him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:40 PM
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Well since you agreed with me there's nothing to argue about. One can only argue when there's a discrepancy in opinions. But usually also some personal characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:06 PM
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She expressed her discontent with male preferences and tried to tell them what they should value, I merely acknowdged female preferences. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:05 PM
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and it's really dehumanizing and objectifying to think otherwise, because you're essentially saying that the person she has worked all her life to become has no value beyond her form So? Women who want attractive, tall and rich men which is the majority of women are just as dehumanizing and objectifying. The only value you recognize is that she is a woman and you find her attractive. Her ideas don't matter; her interests and skills don't matter; the intentional way she treats others doesn't matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:24 AM
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What I find interesting is men tend to want a clean slate in a woman, whereas women generally want a street smart seasoned guy Yeah, it's almost like... attraction between a male and a female is not symmetrical?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:23 PM
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Yeah, there is a meme comparing male and female loneliness. A "lonely" woman is blocking the door to her room that 10 guys are trying to break into, while a guy just sits there alone and depressed without anyone to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:16 PM
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Those women are not your equal if you are struggling to get them. I think you are on the same level as your orbiters. Women are hypergamous (at least until they are 30+ and no longer offer much value), which means they are looking for a guy at least equal or more than likely superior to them. The problem is, that guy is in high demand amongst women, therefore he doesn't have to commit to a single woman and can just fuck around. Men on the other hand are totally down to sleep with a woman signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:16 AM
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How come only 34% of women in the same age bracket are single though? Does gender determine your outgoingness and shyness?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:05 AM
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Some of his views are reasonable, but he goes to the extremes all the time. His worldview and attitude towards women only work for people of his caliber, I don't understand why average guys think his advice will be useful to them beyond going to the gym and stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 02:55 AM
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Yeah, except I'm not victimizing men. If you pay attention to what you read I said "everyone has long accepted that sexism mostly benefits women", accept = not complaining. But women can't seem to accept the 1 perk men get from sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:52 PM
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I don't understand what it is concerning radical feminists you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:15 PM
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How about you don't switch anything and just accept my statement in its original form.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:13 PM
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I literally just said they indeed don't force me to???
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:11 PM
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Also, “Men and women being different” is only an accepted belief in this subreddit when it puts men in an advantageous positive. People bring it up when it comes to being advantageous for men because everyone has LONG accepted all the benefits women get from sexism to the point it doesn't need to be mentioned ever, but women have a hard time accepting the benefit men get from sexism. And yes benefits being plural when it comes to women and singular when it comes men is not a typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:09 PM
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No, but they incline me to. I wouldn't have to lie to them if women were realistic though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:36 PM
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I'm so humiliated right now. I wish you could see my face it's totally flushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:12 PM
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All I got was this MS Paint collage telling the story of a sex criminal succeeding at tinder due to being so attractive Yes, that is quite enough to confirm my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:10 PM
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Men are not nearly as nefarious as to seek out someone to stick their dick into, it's just their hormones, specifically testosterone driving them. See how ridiculous your logic is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:05 PM
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Close, it was 'What is beautiful is good'. Wrong. I was talking about the concept as a whole, not the study. And I never said that is the only study, I just used it as an example because it's the oldest one. Keep researching it, and you can also look up "chadfishing", that'll be your epiphany for today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:59 PM
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Jesus, that's some strong-ass black pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:33 PM
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Sure. It's called "physical attractiveness stereotype" if you wanna do more research.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:29 PM
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Usually people know how to use google, so I didn't feel the need to do that. Sorry that I debunked your delusions with it, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:23 PM
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I've got no clue what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:20 PM
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It was observed a long time ago actually. There was a study on that done by Karen Dion, Ellen Berscheid, and Elaine Walster in 1972.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:14 PM
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Sure, if you treat people like shit people will likely treat you like shit as well. Problem is, the treatment you receive also largely depends on your physical attractiveness. It's not "what you sow, you will reap" every time, not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:20 AM
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Some people do that though. It's just most also need emotional connection just as much as they need sex if not more to feel happy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 11:15 AM
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Pretend to be asexual and make a poll asking men if they'd wanna date you. That'll be your epiphany for today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:09 AM
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Nah man, we're just insecure and small dick energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:32 AM
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But they can just wait until their late twenties or early thirties to bag one of those guys. They can't. By the time these women are 30 those guys are already out of their league so they get put into "fuck zone". Have you SEEN some 30 year old women? Yes, I've also seen 20 year old women. First off, let's not pretend most or even half of people look after themselves in terms of diet and exercise. Secondly, average 30 year olds CANNOT compete with average 20 year olds. Are there attractive 30 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:10 PM
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Depends. Some 20 year olds just wanna fuck hot young guys, some already want stability aka financially established men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:39 PM
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Hot to whom? Are you planning to attract other women? Because for men of all ages the most attractive age group of women is 20-21 according to studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:36 PM
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So your plan is jumping from dick to dick until you're all used up and 24+? I mean go for it, but for that to succeed you gotta have a 4th sense or something to tell you when you have finally found the best you can get and it's time to settle, and you obviously can't jump back on a previous dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:17 PM
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Of course, I'm not saying one is much better than the other, I merely corrected you, hence the *
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:50 AM
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I've seen too many men here accuse women of being liars when they say anything that differs from the narrative they have established about women in their heads. *when what they say doesn't reflect on their personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:39 AM
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Men can be hypergamous when it comes to physical attractiveness because they can make up for their lackthereof with money for instance, so a classical rich 5/10 dates a 9/10 supermodel. Everything else you listed men don't care much about, so it makes no sense for them to be hypergamous in those aspects as they'll be narrowing their dating pool without any benefits to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:32 AM
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Because men will fuck almost anything Hot guys don't need to settle for anything though. Stop being in denial, older women are less attractive. You don’t think good looking 30 year old men hookup with their attractive 30 year old coworkers or friends? These men have money by 30, which is a qualifier for woman that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:23 AM
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Older women fuck good looking broke dudes all the time lol what are you talking about No, because good looking broke dudes can fuck good looking 18-24 year olds, why would they fuck older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:15 AM
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Anyone with experience with women knows there’s men theyll date if they like his personality but wouldn’t have causal sex with him on his looks alone. Hence why I said most. The only group of women who fuck hot broke guys is 18-22 which is understandable, they are not looking for stability at that age, they are just looking to have sex. you’ll see tons of average women dating average men Why are you bringing up random irrelevant arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:09 AM
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Most women have the same standards in regards to both sex and relationship, if they sleep with a man it means they'd wanna enter a relationship with him. It's men who wanna sleep with 100% of women but would only have a relationship with 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:56 AM
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If all women are "hypergamous" what is the point? If "all women" will leave their partner at the hint of someone better in someway, being interested. Hypergamy for women doesn't mean looking for the best man, it means looking for a man better than themselves. Also women are not dumb, they understand that most of them have no chance to score the best or even one of the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:46 AM
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For most men attracting just 1 woman is enough to be happy. Yes, we're well aware that women on this sub are all exceptions to the rule and not at all hypergamous, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:12 PM
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It's mostly mid dudes dating someone comparably attractive/mid/unattractive Uhhh, duh? People date within their respective attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:27 AM
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Just because your addiction went off the rails doesn't eliminate the original intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:42 PM
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There are very tangible values associated with it. You literally get money thrown at you (if you're a woman) and free access to sex (if you're a guy, for women being a 5/10 is enough) if you're on top of that "imaginary" scale and you get depressed if you're on the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:59 PM
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makeup is something that women apply much more to feel comfortable themselves with how they are presenting in general, and to appeal or impress other women. No, makeup is something women apply to attract higher status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:28 PM
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It's an imaginary scale. People just made it up. The letters and words you just used to construct that statement were also made up by people, they are imaginary and don't actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:24 PM
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The red pill exists because men with low social skills believe there are cheat codes to getting laid No, red pill exists because most men don't know what women want due to said women not being transparent about it and red pill teaches them exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:47 PM
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There is zero impetus for women to hide either, nor has there ever been. Yes, that must be the reason red pill exists. Because clearly women are so transparent about their preferences that not a single guy will ever struggle to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:43 PM
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That’s what I said. No that's not what you said. You said why would they need to hide their physical attraction, while I'm talking about hiding their true preferences, not the physical attraction itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:40 PM
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Why do you make a strawman argument? They are being covert about their PREFERENCES, not physical attraction itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:26 PM
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I have no idea why some PPDers on this subreddit think people need a "covert" way to admit they're attracted to attractive people. I have no idea why you assume I think that. I never said you need to justify your preferences, I merely translated womanese.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:45 PM
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Confidence mostly comes from good looks and accomplishments, so it's a covert way to say they like attractive and successful guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:59 PM
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By attractive I mean generally attractive, not physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:26 PM
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Some would be an understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:37 AM
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Too many words, could have used that extra keyboard smashing to give actual examples instead of drowning in your false sense of intellectual superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:35 AM
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Everyone? Powerful word, good thing I never used it and it was you who put it in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:29 AM
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No, I'm just gonna ignore the argument you can't back up, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:21 AM
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Where did I tell anyone they should entertain any of my ideas? What are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:20 AM
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And yet several social constructs are recognized and dealt with on the level of instinct Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:09 AM
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Point being that social programming doesn't always operate at the conscious level Social programming cannot operate outside conscious thoughts. Biology aka isntincts don't adhere to social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:58 AM
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Ah I see. You can try skipping breakfast unless you're pursuing muscle gains, only eat when you actually want to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:52 AM
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What do you mean by pill? I eat twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:41 AM
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Women want both kids and a man because a man provides security which is what women care most about. Career women probably don't need security from men, but they are gonna be miserable in their 40s-50s anyway so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:13 AM
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men seem more likely to want a woman at all costs. They will take their best option. Women, not so much. Until they are in their thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 07:12 AM
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You made a weird distinction between genders while my post is clearly gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 07:05 AM
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Well it depends on the food I eat, if it's hyper palatable I'll obviously be enjoying it a lot, but ever since I started watching my diet it's no longer one of my primary dopamine sources. I'm still enjoying it, but I could skip a meal and do something else if I wanted to and wouldn't care, it's just I have to eat otherwise I'll lose muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:51 AM
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Because it takes time of the day to eat food.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:40 AM
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Sure, we can call that "non virtue signalling" if you don't like "politically incorrect".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:26 AM
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Like I said, it's politically incorrect. Still doesn't make it impolite, it's a compliment in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:04 AM
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I would be unimpressed with someone who specifically brought up the topic of how other people failed to measure up. Sure, that's fair. Like I already mentioned, the way I articulated it in the post is obviously over the top, it's the general pretence that bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:59 AM
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But why even bring it up? The same reason you go on a date to begin with - getting to know each other better. It just shows you want to harp on things you were dissatisfied with in the past. Mentioning something dissatisfactory from your past means you want to harp on these things? So if I was fat in the past and got ripped now, am I supposed to pretend I have always been ripped if my date asks me? Or should I tell her the whole story?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:35 AM
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Saying "I didn't find them attractive" doesn't take much energy and it's not complaining either, it's just a quick straight to the point fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:20 AM
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Perhaps she's more feminine, pure, agreeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:13 AM
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It's like asking if you'd ever take a pill that stops you from requiring satiety and feeling hunger, like of course I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:08 AM
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It's never occurred to me to think of someone that way It's fine, your brain does that subconsciously, that's how evolution and procreation work. And I would say that calling someone ugly is indeed trash talking. It's crass and I don't do it. Except I didn't call anyone ugly, I said "below my attractiveness threshold". If a man told me negative things about all the other people he had dated, I would take that as a red flag. The fact that he dated them, dated being past simple already implies the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:58 AM
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I don't think even women wear these rose colored glasses tbh, they play on easy mode at 18-24 but they are still deep down aware of RP concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:53 AM
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Being emotional (not over the top) is not a problem in itself, it's what you do after that determines her future attitude towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:49 AM
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That different point of view being...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:44 AM
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Not themselves, their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:43 AM
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No, there isn't. But what you should do on a date is determined by societal programming, the current trend is like I said "delude each other into thinking there are some deep inexplicable reasons you're drawn to each other that are infinitely more valuable than looks and tangibles each of you brings to the table". Unfortunately, biology doesn't adhere to social constructs so we end up in a world where a lot of people are confused as to why nobody likes them after they've done everything their mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:40 AM
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Telling you partner you're interested in them because they meet your physical attractiveness threshold isn't impolite, it's just politically incorrect, that's the point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:37 AM
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You don’t have to say that “oh, yeah, you pass all the things in my imaginary list!” The way I articulated it is obviously over the top, but this topic is purposefully ignored during a date
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:34 AM
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Except the post says even though they think the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:34 AM
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Why would you need to say anything on a date with that logic? Why not just go to the bedroom straight away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:32 AM
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The way I articulated it is obviously over the top, but this topic is purposefully ignored during a date, the absolute closest you might get to it is some generic compliment like "I like your hair" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:29 AM
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I mean, on a first date I don't generally trash talk prior unsuccessful dates That's not trashtalking, you left out this part: "who were otherwise perfect". It's perfectly fine to talk about other dates with your current one, in fact it's beneficial for men specifically as women are generally not interested in men who only have 1 potential option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:27 AM
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This is different than intentional subversion which is necessary to mask direct TRP identification This just reminded me of something. I was once consulting with a therapist who asked me about my diet, well I literally brought him a list of products and their amount in grams that I consume on a daily basis, his initial response was: "Good, I guess nothing to worry about here", but then as he looked at the bottom where I calculated the overall amount of macros and he saw that I only eat like 40 g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:23 AM
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"Her type" is mostly a fallacy. When a woman says she prefer nerds what she means is she prefers conventionally attractive nerds, falsely assuming that it is the "nerd" part that makes the attraction, not the "conventionally attractive" part because in her mind her preferences have to be special just like everything else about her. Are there women who have actual types? Yes, there are women who prefer attractive masculine looking men and there are women who prefer attractive but more feminine lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:24 PM
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Desirable = attractive, I fail to understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:47 PM
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I officialy declare that as a man it matters little to me whether I get stabbed by a man or by a woman. Physical assault is a physical assault and we men are under a higher risk statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:25 PM
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Ew? You find him disgusting without knowing him? I wouldn't touch you with a 8 ft pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:09 PM
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You have a reasonable reasonable stance overall, however, value is largely objective. Women are generally attracted to the same things: tall, muscular and ripped, rich, charismatic, masculine, hung. Men are attracted to the same things: youth, beauty, purity, femininity. Yes, there are outliers but you have to generalise things if you ever want to have a sound theory and outlook on life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:19 PM
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The thing is, money doesn't make them attracted to you, it makes them attracted to what you can provide with that money so they might tolerate some of your physical inadequacies because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:55 AM
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But that is a variable I can't control. Worrying about things you can't control is a waste of time energy and resources. I'm not telling you should worry about it, I'm telling you to have a realistic view of yourself. You can grind 24/7 throghout your twenties, become charismatic, ripped and rich, but if you're genetically handicapped you can't get the hottest chicks, you just can't, there's a ceiling in your potential which is determined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:38 AM
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Most people don't dig into RP to find that it has little nuance, it can be summed up in one sentence which most people agree with deep down: each person has an objective value and they will find a partner of roughly the same value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:09 AM
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I'm not shaming anyone for their preferences, everyone is entitled to having those and in fact I'm all for being open and "politically incorrect" about it. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:49 AM
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Well so far I'm doing ok. You do realize deep down most people realize that RP mostly makes sense, it's just they can't accept the uncomfortable reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:46 AM
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Attractiveness in women is a double-edged sword. It's a giant greatsword on one side and a tiny little dagger on the other, i.e. advantages far outweigh the downsides. You see a lot of people trying to make themselvess look better with plastic surgery, but I don't see anyone trying to make themselves look ugly just so that people can value their personality over looks. Some women are full of themselves. I agree with that, but usually ? Hasn't been my experience. Well we can't fact check each oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:22 AM
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Assumption. Fine, I'll break it down for you. Attractive women start receiving a ton of male attention and perks starting from like 14 years old. They get free answers to tests, they get free help with homework, boys start buying them candies, giving them compliments, all of that for simply existing. It will spoil almost anyone, same way it spoils children raised by loaded parents who end up nowhere in life because they get everything handed to them without putting in any effort. That's why hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:43 AM
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So it is acceptable to judge a person as a whole based on immutable traits but unacceptable to judge them on mutable ones, I'm confused, shouldn't it be the opposite? Being short or ugly isn't a choice, therefore you shouldn't judge them on it, being promiscuous is a choice, therefore it's fine to judge them on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:34 AM
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"Hot chicks" not suitable for a relationship ? How would you know what every attractive woman is like? Common sense. That's not a strawman, that's common sense.. It is a strawman. I said good (for a relationship) people are less likely to be physically attractive. You implied that I said looks fully determine your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:29 AM
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Yes, just yes. I was talking about a relationship, not a person overall. There's a reason most hot chicks are not suitable for a relationship. Also, I was talking about a probability, so get out of here with strawman statements like this Looks don't tell of you're a good person or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:20 AM
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Love absolutely exists, for example your parents love you, although it's not the best example because their love is unconditional while loving your partner unconditionally is unrealistic. The problem is most people conflate love with infatuation, a short term burst of hormones you get from interacting with a new person and lusting over their looks. True love in my opinion is a genuine desire to make a good person happy, where "good" is obviously solely related to their personality and character …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:15 AM
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just be the best version of you Yes, that's a good mentality. However, you have to understand that the best version of yourself will probably be inferior the the best version of Brad Pitt. It's actually one of the aspects of red pill I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:10 AM
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Curiosity is somewhat equivalent to superficial attraction, it gets you in the door. Most men are kind of invisible, inducing curiosity could potentially be the first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:04 AM
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I judge people for completely disregarding someone based on the information and not seeing them as a whole person. Pretty sure you've done that to some short and ugly men, maybe not directly but you went "Ok he's not even a viable option so why bother talking to him". What if they had a wonderful personality and you disregarded them based on these couple of traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:01 AM
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So you judge them for asking you about body count, yet you ask them about it yourself since you have managed to find a whole correlation between men's body count and their inclination to ask you about yours. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:54 AM
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You need to stop telling people what they should or shouldn't care about. Especially considering we have stats proving that high body counts increase the likelihood of divorce. Also no, body count preferences aren't sex related.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:44 AM
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I'd be curious what other women are seeing in him though. Yes, that's how it works. Anyway, I was speaking in generalities, 100% there are women who don't care or even feel negative about dating men who are popular amongst other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:40 AM
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It’s way sexier to not overthink. How will anybody know that I'm "overthinking" something? What I said in this post is something I'd never be able to tell most people in real life straight to their face as it's politically incorrect, therefore I have to put on a mask so people don't know that this is how I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:18 AM
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It's not about thinking, it's about comparing. But even in terms of "thinking" you have to have a general idea of how / what other people think, otherwise you'll become a social outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:16 AM
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Being clueless doesn't increase your SMV. If by not giving a fuck you mean being confident, confidence has to be backed up by something, otherwise it's delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:13 AM
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No, studies show that women find men who are desired by other women to be more attractive. Large number of women you date doesn't necessarily show that you're popular amongst them as they could just be using you for free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:14 AM
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Nails, hair, skincare, make up - you think any of this is cheap You'd be surprised at the amount men don't give a crap whether a woman has her nails done or if she wears makeup, in fact it's a turn off for many. And I for one also do my hair regularly as well as daily skin care routine, so we're equal here. And then there’s the real human risk a woman takes when she goes out alone with a man Man takes a far higher risk, as we are statistically 6 times more likely to be a victim of a violent crim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:03 AM
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Red pill is applicable to all first world countires, whether it can be applied to a specific area or not mostly depends on 2 things: abundance of resources for women and a prevalence of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:29 AM
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That's cap. Any man of average attractiveness can become top 20% with hard work, a woman of average looks is bound to stay at around top 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:59 PM
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Not thats your selfish delusional definition of loyalty Because I said I expect myself to provide resources for a woman I'm with? No, that's not selfish. Also another flaw of your statement is men expect women to contribute financially now too. That's not a traditional relationship, but sure, if that's the case being monogamous as a man should be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:53 PM
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Men's overall attractiveness isn't as heavily dependant on their physical appearance as women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:51 PM
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Let's assume that we have. What's your next argument gonna be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:53 PM
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A beautiful woman at 35 and an average at 25, hm. That theory only works on paper with an extremely limited sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:36 AM
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Male loyalty and female loyalty are not the same thing. Men show loyalty by taking care of their woman financially, women show loyalty by remaining sexually exclusive to their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:33 AM
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I would not let you out of your apatments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:30 AM
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Most beautiful women I met in my life were 28 - 37. For real. That would imply your biology is messed up. Beauty is supposed to be a marker of youth and fertility in women, and they lose half their eggs by 35. What you're referring to is attraction, not physical beauty. You may prefer older women, but the reason for that is not their superficial beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:16 AM
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Women over 30 are not ugly, they are just less attractive than their younger self. Men are loyal to women, way more so than vice versa. A man will rarely if ever abandon a woman that's been with him starting from 20 years old, that's just not how men work. Yes, we want a hot woman, but having a woman who decided to be with us when we were nobody is way more valuable even if she's not as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:09 AM
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We're obviously not going to agree about our respective different lived experiences. Naturally, because I'm a man and had a male upbringing while you're a woman and had a female upbringing. You don't pay attention to what society teaches men about women, otherwise you'd realize that being disrespectful to women is not a problem a notable portion of men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:59 AM
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such an easy win with a surprisingly notable positive impact is left on the table by quite a few men Society and parents brainwash men into being a "nice guy" from the very early childhood, that is literally the very first thing every man tries when interacting with women initially. What's their issue? Being too nice and respectful? You'll probably be suprised to find out that at least half the "respectful" men that showed interest in you were only faking that respect and lied in order to get la…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:33 AM
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I thought men had evolved passed monkeys? I thought women did too, but they still want tall men despite it not being a stone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:08 AM
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As a woman I think it's amazing how much a man can boost his chances of pulling by having some basic respect for women as human beings That is not the reason men struggle to get laid. I assure you if Brad Pitt walks into a club, comes up to a girl and straight up offers her to fuck she won't refuse despite him being disrespectful and treating her like an object. You're acting as if men's main problem is "not treating women as human beings" rather than being short, potentially broke and fat bums,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:48 AM
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How men find 18 year old's attractive when they're past the age of 20. Gives me a weird feeling and yes I do judge men based on this. Because 18-24 year olds are generally more physically attractive than older women. Men don't get a "weird feeling" when women go after rich and tall men, so you shouldn't get a "weird feeling" when men go after younger women either. Why men place so much value on sex. I mean its literally just a few minutes of pleasure. It doesn't define a person. Testosterone. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:36 AM
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I can guarantee you attractive gamers still get sex. It's guys who lost the genetic lottery that engage in escapismic activities like video games who don't get sex. If video games didn't exist they'd be watching TV, if TV didn't exist they'd be reading comics or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:36 AM
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Yeah, the problem is it is only "bothered" when the guy is unattractive, otherwise it becomes "flirted with".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:21 AM
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What he thinks is irrelevant. He doesn't approach you because of the fact that you you wear meakup itself, he approaches you because makeup makes you attractive, there's no analysis behind it - it is subconscious. You have the power to stop people approaching you - don't put on makeup. And if you do put on makeup with the purpose of attracting men, then don't act as a victim when you achieve that purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:55 AM
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Ouch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:56 AM
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Happily married women wear makeup even when their husbands aren't around. Because getting male attention is something every woman wants regardless of being in a relationship. "She's asking for it wearing makeup like that" is not the argument you want to be making. She intends to get male attention *does not equal* she's asking for it. A guy approaches her because he finds her attractive, remove the makeup and he'll no longer find her attractive, therefore he won't approach her. Boom, problem sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:33 AM
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No, she doesn't. Yeah, she does. Women don't go to sleep with makeup on. Also, "she's asking for it, look at her makeup" is not really the argument you want to make. She's asking for it != she indends to get male attention. A guy approaches her because he finds her attractive, remove the makeup and he'll no longer find her attractive, therefore he won;t approach her. Boom, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:27 AM
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A child didn't do anything to induce your fact. A woman puts on makeup with the sole purpose of attracting men. And then ones they get attracted she has an issue with that? Why put on makeup then? I never see women who don't wear makeup get approached randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:23 AM
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Men don't cold approach in a large percentage of countries. Show stats. Men who don't cold approach are afraid / tired of rejections, they aren't refusing to cold approach because they are "too nice to bother poor women".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:25 AM
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being a 7/10 or whatever stupid qualifier people use on here isn't mature in the flightiest Except whenever you see any person your brain does that subconsciously. "Ok that human is attractive -> probably means they're healthy -> go mate with them and bring healthy offspring". Just because not many people have the balls to admit being slaves to their biology doesn't make it immature or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:46 AM
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Men are not a singular entity. There are bad men and good men. Women need good men to protect them from bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:23 AM
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High-value men (HVM) do not necessarily marry young virgins, and there is no consistent proof that most of them do so. It's simply an unfounded claim that you guys are making with zero solid ground based in reality. In fact, such a belief is straight up delusional behavior. HVM are at their peak, so they choose a woman that's also at her peak which is around 20 years old. Though they aren't looking to marry anyone because that's a financial suicide for a man. That's not a "belief", that's just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:19 AM
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Not sex slaves, normal slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:53 PM
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I'm confused, was there a rule that comment violated?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:49 PM
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Yes, you can find a research to confirm or rebunk any hypothesis. I can tell you if you put 2 people in the middle of a desert and give them a bottle of water they will fight each other until death for it. When people starve with no prospect of food in sight they kill each other and resort to cannibalism. Porn isn't recognized as an addiction by any legitimate mental health and addiction-related organization, medical and otherwise. There's tons of research showing that porn has a devastating aff…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:04 AM
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People are not altruistic creatures by nature, so their enjoyment rarely depends on their partner's enjoyment. Men are hard wired to spread their seed as much as possible and they get rewarded with the release of certain hormones should they succeed which is why porn is so addictive as there are thousands of accessible women there to choose from. Women on the opther hand are hard wired to only have high quality offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:39 AM
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Naturally. Men's idea of success is being able to have sex with as many women as they want, women's idea of success is locking down as high value of a guy as possible and getting full commitment from him. We're not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:27 AM
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Funny how you think I'm supposed to take what you say at face value just because you're a woman and we're talking about women. If all men listened to what women SAY they want, not a single guy would ever get laid. Because you know, allegedly all women want a nice respectful guy who's kind and who treats them like a gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:20 AM
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I never said I feel like a tall man. But I'm not a manlet who tried to make himself feel better with this post, it's genuinely just a random thought that occured in my mind. I also said "between" because we use a metric system in our country and I don't know whether I have to round it up or down when it comes to imperial. I'm 179 point something cm = 5 Feet, 10.472 inches to be more precise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:57 AM
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I mean, what's more important to you: getting approval from random people of your own gender and guys you're not interested in or finding a partner who you like and who likes you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:52 AM
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If everyone took off their mask of political correctness and virtue signalling, the amount of depressed people would skyrocket and blue pill ideology would cease to exist immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:25 AM
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Except adhering to the standards of people you're not interested in dating does not benefit you in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:22 AM
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World is a cruel place. If you're not at the top exploiting other people, your life is gonna suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:17 AM
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Society consists of males and females. I assume you're a straight female, therefore you should only be interested in what males cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:14 AM
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Women need a man to either clearly have options or to have been preselected before. Other women who potentially know him better than her being interested in him is the marker of his high value. If that woman is the only one he can get, she won't be interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:07 AM
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Except it doesn't matter whether he enjoys something or not. Red pill is targeted mainly at helping men get sex and preferably with attractive women, which Tate does better than anyone else and he gives advice which if followed helps men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:57 AM
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Plenty of people find it shallow and empty to be validated on their attractiveness Validated != complimented. I actually have a post on this sub explaining why you should NOT compliment women on looks. Other than that, you can continue being in denial and say that you're not trying to enhance your beauty for the purpose of attracting better quality men, but deep down you know it's the main reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:54 AM
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The point of the government is swaying the balance of wealth in their favor next to ordinary people, but not so much as to cause a protest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:34 AM
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Most people are selfish to some extent, it's just very few will admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:24 AM
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You can't enter your house without a key, does it make the door's lock the most imporatant aspect of your apartments?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:21 AM
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I don't want onlyfans gone, it breaks some men's mental health and I get less competition. Plus it's easy to filter out women if they have onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:17 AM
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Yes, but that relationship is doomed to fail or be unfulfilling still. Just because looks get you in the door and are a prerequisite doesn't make them the most important aspect, the foundation of a healthy commited relationship has to be built on internal values. What you're talking about is more related to short term relationships and hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:05 AM
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-Conditionally attractive women are fit, not skinny -Huh? -Being pretty is enough, amount of effort is irrelevant -Not every man wants kids -Men don't care about your education -Men don't care how smart you are -Excess male attention is actually a turn-off -Men don't care about your emotional intelligence -Men have to be in charge of any social interactions, so no, they don't care about your social skills -Men don't care what celebrity you're crushing on -Being a mom is your biological nature an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:00 AM
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Well the most popular guy in red pill space is Andrew Tate who fucks hundreds of women, so we're peachy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:55 AM
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People who say they don't wanna be validated on their attractiveness are usually the most narcissistic ones from my experience, on top of being disingenuous. If you didn't wanna be validated on looks, you wouldn't wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:25 AM
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So you're gonna wait until they rob you. What are you gonna do afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:24 AM
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Yeah, but the threshold is usually realistic. If a woman is rejecting you for being 5'10, however cliche that might sound, you wouldn't have a fulfilling relationship with her even if you were 6'5.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:22 AM
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Really? What are you gonna do when somebody breaks into your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:19 AM
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No, because men only need 1 or a few women at max to procreate. Others would be turned into slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:18 AM
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The ones who earn respect are those who can de-escalate a situation and negotiate peace. Correct, but on 1 condition: if shit actually hits the fan, then this "negotiator" will fuck up everyone who's opposing him. I’m not sure how you define “beta” A man that can't get women or lets them wipe the floor with him. but I’d much MUCH prefer a man who walks away then some oik who gets triggered constantly Read my comment again. "It's stoic confident alphas who are generally calm but can fuck anyone u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:25 PM
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Wdym, are you saying all those expenses on the military are a WASTE!? Fuck sake man, they coulda bought each citizen a yahct by now instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:07 PM
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Well a man that is capable of violence earns respect from other men, therefore power and status. That is because violence is a byproduct of testosterone. Whether you want to admit it or not, betas are not attractive to women. It's stoic confident alphas who are generally calm but can fuck anyone up should they so decide that are attractive to women. Then again, you'll never admit it because you gotta be combative and virtue signal online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:02 PM
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Spread across the whole planet? Are you nuts? America was only discovered in 15th century. The majority of people were "spread" around africa and middle east and they weren't even spread thin, they lived fairly close to each other. You couldn't survive without men then and you can't do it now, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:57 PM
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Yeah, it's insane that some women genuinely believe they don't need men to survive even in modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:47 PM
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Let's imagine a scenario where all men suddenly disappear from a single country (tribe), guess what would happen on the next day. That's right, you'll get invaded by men from the other country (tribe) and enslaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:35 PM
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Well people don't like hearing that outside certain communities usually related to red pill, that's what I meant. The majority of people in this world are blue pilled, especially women. And half the people who are red pilled are ashamed of being red pilled so they still pretend to be blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:16 PM
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AskScience Yeah I'll remember that. People outside certain communities don't like to operate under the basic assumption that taller guys are more attractive to women though so it might prove difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:08 PM
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I mean, I never said height is a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:07 PM
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Yes, but total volume grows linearly if width remains the same and length increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:06 PM
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Well thanks but I'm not a manlet lol, I'm between 5'10 and 5'11. You did bring valid points though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:04 PM
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But why do you assume being taller means also being wider? Because that's what exponential increase means, otherwise it's linear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:01 PM
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Being taller doesn't guarantee being wider. Hell, taller people are more likely to be skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:59 PM
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Yeah, I think it's called projecting your experience on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:58 PM
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The taller you get the longer your limbs are, length is a linear metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:57 PM
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Could be malnutrition. Heck, even today malnutrition isn't uncommon outside western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:55 PM
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20% difference doesn't make that much of a difference though. You'd just need to eat 120 grams of meat instead of 100 which would be compensated for by the the comparative ease of getting said meat if you're well built.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:54 PM
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Sounds convincing. So you think being short wes actually advantageous in that era? Why are women instinctually wired to get impregnated by tall ones then? Is this instinct operating under the assumption that all men are guaranteed to remain satiated for the tall guy to take advantage of his height?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:51 PM
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Yeah you can lose all positions and win all positions. But it's about a probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:46 PM
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Movements would take more energy but he'd also move more effectively due to longer limbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:38 PM
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You didn't specify gender in the first parapraph. Either way wether a woman was having fun in her twenties, building a career or both at the same time neither of those things make her an attractive option for a HVM who will just choose a 20 year old virgin over her. I did not make any claims about women earning more than men, so your second paragraph is also irrelevant and does not refute my original claim. Really? So what was the point of mentioning women being more successful in college then? …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:35 PM
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I don't think basal metabolic rate is much different whether you're 5'10 or 6'4, but other points you've made are sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:29 PM
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Exponentially? As in the taller you get the thicker you get? I'd imagine it's linear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:28 PM
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And it turns out it was just sexism, this assumption that hunters were exclusively males “protecting womenfolk”. Hunters were also women. Did women also hunt while carrying a baby in their belly? Or do you reckon they needed protection in this state?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:26 PM
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I have to admit I too seem to encounter less tall elder people compared to tall young people. I believe your life span is tied more to the amount of muscle you can put on so the protein synthesis but I did also notice similar trend as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:24 PM
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Hm, it makes sense but I don't think a couple tens of centimeters of height affect your basic metabolic rate as much. I'd consider it negligible next to the advantage in combat being tall and massive provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:19 PM
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You can have fun in your twenties and still work towards building a good life. You can "have fun" as a man in your twenties, but not with women you actually want. Those whom you want are gonna be waiting for you at the finish line of your financial journey. If you have top 10% genetics as a man you can obviously have fun in your twenties with whatever hot chicks you want, but you're still gonna hit a wall hard if you don't work on your future. More women are enrolling in college and buying homes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:25 PM
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Yes, except you're not gonna be able to have a good time with actually attractive women before you figure our your finances, unless you win a genetic lottery which has a way higher threshold compared to a female genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:22 PM
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"You're not my type" doesn't specify the area where you're lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:58 PM
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women are outpacing men when it comes to getting degrees Yes. buying their own homes No. Men earn more on average. Just because you're more successful in college doesn't mean you're gonna have a bigger wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:55 PM
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Let’s assume for one second that someone not being attracted to you is a problem that can be solved No need to assume, it can definitely be solved unless it's something like a racial preference. what makes you think that the words “I’m not attracted to you” tells you anything useful in that situation You can look in the mirror to see what could potentially be unattractive about you. Perhaps you're too fat and your facial features aren't defined enough, croocked nose, weak jawline, etc. You could…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:52 PM
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Young guys don't have time for that, they're busy setting themselves up for having a good life in their thirties, fourties and upwards. Those who don't always suffer dire consequences later on while a woman who's "had her fun" in twenties can still find a sucker-provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:05 PM
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I can guarantee you most men want stability because by the time they get to a point where they can get a quality woman they've already had their share of excitement and stress they experienced while climbing that ladder. It's mostly women in their late teens to early twenties who think they're gonna remain young and desirable forever so they chase more extreme sensations like what drama and conflicts bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:49 AM
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Why do you think I need help? I'm a professional womanese translator, just trying to help other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:21 AM
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Because "type" doesn't refer to the physicality necessarily, it's very nebulous and misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:04 AM
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Where you are wrong is in the assumption that you're gonna insult a man by calling him unattractive. We men live in a different reality than you, we don't need people calling us beautiful and curvy if we're fat to avoid hurting our feelings, we don't need people calling us strong and independant if if we're just plain hard to deal with. We accept the reality for what it is and don't need any sugarcoating. We need the truest of truths because it makes life simpler for us, it makes it easier to im…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:57 AM
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No, it's because they don't wanna seem shallow I reckon. They wanna be viewed as non-superficial inner beauty seekers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:17 AM
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I was speaking in generalities. Everyone likes being validated on their attractiveness from time to time, some women get addicted to it and use instagram, but I'm not saying all women are like that of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:16 AM
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I would. It's easier to fix a problem when you know what caused a failure. I understand that women do that because they are concerned for their safety, however, I don't get why some women keep this mask on even online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:13 AM
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Yes, that's why I called it virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:58 AM
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I don't think there are many women who genuinely enjoy it, hence why they always try to virtue signal with something like "you're not my type". They feel good after receiving attention, so why would they wanna specifically hurt his feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:51 AM
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It's not gross, it simply doesn't benefit you so you employ a shaming tactic. Been through it too many times. Why would a 40 year old guy who's been grinding through his twenties and thirties choose a car with high mileage if he afford to get a brand new one?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:08 AM
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Idk, does it matter? Whatever age you manage to get your finances, body and social skills on point is your peak as a man. So it's quite logical that a man at his peak would go after a woman at her peak which for women is a rather well defined window - 18 to 24 years old roughly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:05 AM
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A man with a lot of options wouldn't choose a woman over like 24 I reckon. If anything he'd just choose a 18-21 year old with a low body count or a virgin preferably.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:41 AM
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Yeah, but why automatically assume a promiscuous woman would have more redeeming qualities elsewhere? If anything you can extrapolate promiscuity to A LOT of other personality traits, and none of those are positive. But of course we're talking in a vacuum, where 2 women are equal except for the body count part, that's what the OP meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:33 AM
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Nah, we just want our equivalents. I'll believe it once I stop seeing every woman with lots of male friends (simps). Why doesn't she pick one of them? What's so unequal about them compared to her? Men hospitalise/severely abuse more And go to jail for that. cheat more Show statistics. have porn addictions Not the men you're interested in. want to hurt/degrade women in bed to feel 'dominant' Most women like it from my experience albeit not to the extreme of being physically hurt. Don't project yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:41 AM
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Women don't want to find anyone Everyone wants to find someone. It's just generally women are unknowingly shooting too high which is why they're struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:09 PM
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Well, why mourn your appearance if it's served its purpose of securing you a high value man? Do you think women that are in a happy marriage would trade it to get their youth back just so they can repeat the process of using it to lock down a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:05 PM
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Only those who decide to whore around during their prime instead of finding a high value man and settling with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:25 AM
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Dating is a gold mine for women. It's actually men who are dropping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:23 AM
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Keep making posts about your small penis size and shortness, though, because you’re most definitely not crippled with insecurities You sound really hurt and bitter. And you're a lier on top of it because I've done no such thing. A fully confident, secure, and attractive man would never make the post you did — about specifically needing to try to neg and game women by making sure to withhold any compliments about their physical attractiveness in order to gain the upper hand Oh dear, you have no i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:48 AM
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You say that I’m projecting my insecurities, but I’m not the one making posts about small penis size and shortness affecting one’s attractiveness. That was used in an argument. Not sure what it has to do with insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:41 AM
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You won't be skinny in a calorie surplus and your muscle won't grow if you don't engage it. Like it or not, that's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:39 AM
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clearly so incredibly jealous of others and bitter towards those that you perceive to be more attractive than you Projecting. Just because you're insecure doesn't mean others are too. I’ve had a predisposition to it since birth from multiple factors including my mothers umbilical cord being strangled around my neck and hyper mobility. I didn't know about that, I apologize. I had a recessed chin as a child and a chubby face with chipmunk cheeks all throughout childhood That is caused by improper …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 05:28 AM
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I'm a very attractive woman and it didn't come free or easy If you didn't have good genetics, you wouldn't become very attractive no matter how much cream you were applying to your skin or how many pills you were taking. Your facial bone structure potential is predetermined, you didn't "work" for it. Hair vitamins and braces isn't "extra work" for becoming attractive, that was a necessity FOR YOU that you brought upon yourself due to lacking these nutrients in your diet and due to not chewing ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:40 AM
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You make too many baseless and condescending assumptions. I don't think other people need to follow anything, I merely shared my opinion on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:23 PM
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Ok, so your point is you can fuck women out of your league as long as they aren't aware of how attractive they are and as long as you have the balls to approach them. How is that applicable to someone who doesn't live in a literal village with no internet access I'm not quite sure, like most US cities have over a few hundreds of thousand of people with insanely prevalent social media presence in the society and for someone like me who lives in Moscow (on the topic of having an "American" point o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:52 PM
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Chicks that could easily date multi-millionaire soccer players, but they don't do it because they are unaware of how hot they are. Women aren't stupid my friend, they are fully aware when they're smoking hot especially to the point of being able to date millionaires. REGARDLESS of how attractive their peers were they are going to be aware of where they stand unless they literally grew up in Kardashians residence without access to outside world or the internet. Perhaps 1% of hot women aren't awar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:17 PM
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There's also a difference between upfront gigachad stuff like "You're hot" or "Hey I think you're really attractive I wanna hang out with you" and ordinary compliments I was mostly talking about in my post like "Aw your eyes are so butiful"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:06 PM
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Yes, I agree with your overall point. Being bold might be the best strategy to take if you're really hot (7 and above). But you have to understand that you don't need to ever verbalize your attraction for her to be aware of it, she already knows you find her attractive since you decided to approach her. I wish the world worked in a different way I don't. We live during the best times for humanity there ever was, complaining about "inferior" genetics just seems really pathetic in comparison to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:00 PM
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It is clearly a compliment, whether or not theres subtext underneath it does not make it not a compliment. No, that is clearly NOT a compliment by definition (a polite expression of praise or admiration).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:46 PM
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It doesn't mean anything if it works for you. You haven't tried NOT complimenting her looks straight up therefore you can't say whether it's a bad or a good thing to do because you have not explored both options. If you're hot and get laid because of it, it doesn't mean your game is on point, it doesn't mean you're doing everything right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:35 PM
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My best friend thinks her bf is really hot and he gets some attention from other women but I think he looks awful No, you're lying. A person can't look hot to someone and awful to others. I'm not interested in a discussion with people that make stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:32 PM
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LOL, on god on god no cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:42 PM
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I've tackled the things you have to work for in my post and said it's fine to compliment both genders on it. However, that is not what most guys do, most guys go "Aww, you have such bootiful eyes"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:25 PM
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No, women don't date hot men, women sleep with hot men. They date men on their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:21 PM
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In the real world, complimenting women's looks is an excellent way to get them naked in your bed with their panties on the floor. Plain and simple. No, unless they find you attractive. Then you have some room for mistakes in your game. Have an ugly guy come up to random women and give them compliments on their appearance and you'll hear how creepy they think it is. Well, then you're doing it wrong. It ain't boring when I do it. I just never bother doing it until things get sexual. Up until that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:18 PM
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Probably not the most righteous option, but the safest one if you don't wanna risk getting your heart broken after becoming emotionally and financially invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:08 PM
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I don't wanna sound offensive, but it's a well-known fact that men will tell you anything to get laid. If they sense that you're insecure they will tell you how attractive they find you even if it's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:04 PM
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No, I don't. But I fail to see how not giving free compliments on her looks can butcher her attraction to you. We all know women want a man who doesn't worship her or put her on a pedestal, because those are all called low value simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:50 PM
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What is this nonsensical assumption that hot women don't realize they're hot because women around them are also hot and therefore they're all average? You do realize that the majority of women in any area that doesn't have a strong selection bias like modeling agency or whatever cannot be hot? There will be a slightly different mean average attractiveness level for each area, but there will still be hot, average and ugly women in each area. Ok, I get it you can get laid easily. But no, it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:46 PM
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Straightforward "You're hot" to women essentially translates into "I wanna fuck you as soon as possible, do you find me attractive enough to eventually give me sex after we talk about some random nonsense for a couple of hours or should I move onto the next girl?". It's way different than "I like your hair, can you tell me how you style it so well?" or something of this sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:34 PM
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Welcome to life as a man. People don't flock to you for being average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:28 PM
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It's not really about what women want, it's about what gives you more / less chance of success as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:26 PM
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I meant complimenting looks, have you read the post? It's in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:25 PM
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I say it's ok if you like it, it's just from my experience I have more success if I don't compliment women on looks on the first date or during cold approach. And I still bet you'd rather have a guy approach you saying "Hey I thought you looked really friendly so I wanted to come up and say hi" rather than "Hey I think you're really cute what's your name?".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:24 PM
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Women have the same instincts and psychology everywhere in the world, I don't know why you mention the US in particular. I guess in the west their values are kinda off and a lot of them are delusional, but they are still attracted to and repulsed by the same things as all other women in the world. I'm from an eastern country myself. All it takes is to find a woman who is both hot and young, and with her being so young she lacks life experience which makes it easy for you to manipulate her into s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:46 PM
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I have never struggled with getting the guys I want to commit to me Because you're dating guys on the same value as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:38 PM
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Nobody is perfect. You can still be successful even if you fuck up certain aspects of the interaction. Also highly depends on the type of the compliment and its delivery. I sometimes start out my approach with a compliment, just not on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:30 PM
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Ahh God then you're contradicting your own point. You told beauty is objective but if you say just because I don't like it ,it doesn't matter I'm not contradicting anything. Just because you're calling an ugly person attractive doesn't make them attractive. Just because you're calling a fat person fit doesn't make them fit. Just because you call an objectively attractive person unattractive doesn't make them unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:26 PM
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So why should a man not compliment them then? Because: It’s boring, uninspiring and mostly unoriginal. Unless it’s something a person had to work hard for like muscles or something that reflects their personality like fashion, it makes no sense to compliment them on it. “You’re beautiful” is essentially the equivalent of telling someone “Good job on being born in a rich family.” – it’s not something they had to work for, they don’t care about being validated on it. On top of that, it can easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:24 PM
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Women who're chosen as miss world are all conventinally attractive. Just because you don't like them doesn't change the fact. There are mathematical measurements applied to the facial structure to scietifically confirm your attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:14 PM
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Just by being interested in you Elon Musk would raise your perceived value tenfold over all other women. I don't know why you're trying to convince me you'd rather be with a lower value gentlemen over a higher value guy that's conservative with compliments. Even if you're that rare unicorn we have tinder stats where women swipe on the top 20% guys who never commit to them and sleep with 5 different chicks instead of swiping on the top 21%-100% guys who will fully commit to them but won't be as h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:10 PM
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What I consider myself is irrelevant. Women don't try their best to look good to receive compliments, they do so to be more confident and to attract higher value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:02 PM
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That's ok. But women I've met simply don't care about being complimented on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:59 PM
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You don't think they appreciate it when a man is able to appreciate all the work that went in to make them look like that They appreciate a high value man taking interest in them as a result of them painting their face and doing their hair. They don't appreciate receiving compliments from random guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:57 PM
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you're not going to settle for a guy who doesn't give you compliments The post is only applicable to initial interactions. But even in a long-term relationship you will settle for a man that doesn't give you compliments or whatever else you desire if he's high value enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:54 PM
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I mean, if you can't think of a creative compliment on her non-physical traits, don't compliment her at all until she tells you something about herself that warrants a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:51 PM
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You wouldn't choose a low value man who gives you compliments over a high value man who doesn't compliment you. Just by being with you he shows that he finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:49 PM
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That's too few words for someone trying to seem smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:48 PM
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Everyone, including attractive people, appreciates being complimented Not on the physical characteristics, unless you're insecure. If you're flirting with a girl and you think she has beautiful eyes, say it If men always said what they think, they'd never get laid. Complimenting a woman on her looks or anything else doesn't mean that you think she's superior or holds more value than you. It just means that you like her She already knows you like her since you approached her or asked her out. Any…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:45 PM
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"woah you're hot" That's not a compliment, that's a high risk high reward option to quickly skip the initial stages provided you're attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:38 PM
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Being neurotipical doesn't make you knowledgeable on female psychology and on how to be successful in dating. Also if she agreed to go on a date with you she probably considers you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:28 PM
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Ok. Go ahead and tell women how pretty they look as soon as you approach them, you have full right to do so. I'm saying why you shouldn't do that if you want to succeed with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:22 AM
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Facial beauty is fully objective when it comes to females. When it comes to males some women may prefer more masculine or more feminine look, but it doesn't matter because if the underlying facial structure is conventionally attractive then the person is attractive regardless of the differences in degrees of attraction to him amongst individual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:19 AM
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You don't get to tell me to not compliment you at certain times, but then to compliment you at other times. I was talking about dudes complimenting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:13 AM
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That's unfortunate indeed. Can't do much about it apart from packing up and going east.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:04 AM
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Yes, you're right. I guess another edit is warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:02 AM
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That's correct. I give compliments just not on her looks which is what the post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:02 AM
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Turned out he hated her, and told me clearly "to never ever share women like her". The reason was her big boobs. That's because it's not the size that matters but shape. Third, although it's less important. I'm a die hard fan of women who act like men. For ex those with short hair, smaller breasts, clothed like men, and cocky attitude , instead of submissive , conventionally feminine women. I bet most of the people like the opposite. We're talking facial features and conventional beauty standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:59 AM
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Well yeah, we assume she's not going to entertain you at all if she doesn't like your looks. But even if she likes you you shouldn't be giving out these compliments to her until you're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:53 AM
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I think average women are attractive. It makes perfect sense that 50% are above average and 50% are below. I made a bad dsitinction with "attractive-average-ugly". It should've been "beautiful-average-ugly"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:48 AM
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I find sexual compliments super helpful once you’re far enough with sexual escalation. Yes, pay attention to paragraph 2 and EDIT at the bottom of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:47 AM
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That's what I like to do, that's what they like me to do. But you can judge me all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:45 AM
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Look in the mirror and be honest with yourself. There's a clear distinction between "beautiful" and "average". I shouldn't have made a "attractive-average-ugly" distinction because average people are also attractive, but they aren't beautiful / stunning / breathtaking whatever you wanna call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:43 AM
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To be fair, it's the same when it comes to male preferences. It's just dudes have to settle for less in sex just like women have to settle for less in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:42 AM
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Personally I'm more into women with less optimal "looks" because from experience most women with optimal "looks" are arrogant, demanding and demeaning. And I say most (!), not all. So to me looks is highly associated with behavior and I simply like the cuter and more respectful ones, usually those who have worse "looks". 100%. 8s 9s 10s that have a bearable character and are truly suitable for long-term happy relationships are literally unicorns. That's because they start getting a crap ton of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:38 AM
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Yeah, I don't know why he brought up compliments from your friends or at the social and working environments given what my post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:31 AM
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women have a type, men have types. Both men and women have "types", but just because for example some women prefer more masculine looking men and some prefer more feminine looking men doesn't change the fact that his facial features still have to be attractive which is determined by applying mathematical measurements to the facial structure. The "type" preference only changes the degree of their attraction towards a certain man, it doesn't change the fact that he's objectively good or bad lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:25 AM
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This is actually really funny, because I was thinking of using the "nerds" type that some women claim to prefer as an example to debunk it. I'm not saying you're lying by claiming that, because I know you don't realize it yourself on a conscious level. Truth of the matter is they don't prefer "nerds", they prefer CONVENTINALLY ATTRACTIVE NERDS and wrongfully assume it's the NERD part that makes the attraction, not the CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:09 AM
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If she rejects you for it, trust me it was not because the compliment It was because of your attitude that you reaffirmed and solidified by giving a lame compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:03 AM
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Are you talking about all compliments, or just compliments about looks or that imply sexual attraction? Latter. We don't stray from the topic of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 10:00 AM
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You can't compare an art created using modern technologies to inbred and inherent human instincts. An attractive person is attractive and he/she knows it, an ugly person is ugly and he/she knows it. No matter what you say it won't change their self-assessment. Humans are hard wired to be attracted to the same things that reflect their health, youth, physical strength when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:55 AM
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So sometimes all you can think of is her looks Maybe some people can't think of anything else. I almost never use tinder but when I do I pick out an interesting detail I manage to spot on her pictures and point it out coupled with a random assumption based on it / joke as an opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:46 AM
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I can't respond to that comment. Point out specific flaws in the statement if you want a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:42 AM
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All of it was just a loose collection of your personal opinion and insecurities Having a different opinion doesn't equal insecurity. That's a favorite argument for women to use, but it doesn't really work on me. you think compliments to your date have to go through merit based screening No, nothing goes through any kind of screening. It's all subconcious and instinctual. Men don't look at curvy women and go "Hmmm, so her waist is think and her hips are wide. I guess it means she's healthy with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:36 AM
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No, that's a fact, not a misconception. We are different biologically, our brains don't function the same due to the hormonal discrepancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:30 AM
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Men like dozens of women. Nothing special about being asked out, men love to tell women “it’s a numbers game”. I might be the only one of 100 women who said yes. There are millions or at least hundreds of thousands of women in every city, you're not exactly limiting yourself that much by choosing to only approach women amongst the hundreds of thousands you find attractive and ignoring the ones you don't find attractive. I’d rather know what he likes about me, and I’m for sure going to tell him. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:35 AM
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I don't give out any advice or try to predict the future doom of random people's realtionships. You need to give actual arguments, not cling onto words like "power" that you don't like when applied to human interactions. Is it because you think you should "just be yourself" to be successful in dating by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:30 AM
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Don’t play games. If you’re like her, tell her. If you approach her or ask her out on a date, you like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:23 AM
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He's average. Yes, there are different degrees to all 3 categories (beautiful, average, unattractive) which is where personal preferences can come in, like some women prefer more of a masculine look and some prefer more of a feminine look, but you need 1 second of looking at the person to tell which general category they fall into. People cannot look at famous people like Benedict Cumberbatch and judge his looks in isolation from his acting and charisma. Because of that, some inherently perceive…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:15 AM
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compliments a flirting Highly depends. "You're really pretty" doesn't sound like flirting. It has to be mixed with teasing and not be superficial to be considered flirting in my opinion, I was referring more to really dull and boring compliments in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:10 AM
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It doesn’t matter if he compliments her appearance or her style, she knows it’s an attempt to obligate an audience. Yes, but I'm not talking about using a compliment specifically as an opener. I mean any compliment on her looks throghout the initial interactions is a bad idea. I sometimes start out the approach by complimenting a woman on her general vibe / demanour, e.g. "you look really friendly so I thought I'd come up and say hi." or tease her on the choice of clothes and I've always gotten …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 08:02 AM
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He's a multimillioner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:55 AM
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Not sure how overthinking some pretty big aspects of the initial interactions can ruin anything. Focusing on physical characteristics has nothing to do with affection, I don't think you should be giving out relationship advice and inaccurate predictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:29 AM
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I think it's still kinda dumb if we're talking facial features, but women can get away with it more easily IMO. Also, from my experience most compliments women give guys are targeted at their physique which is fine as I've emphasized in the first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 07:01 AM
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Can you give examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:47 AM
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giving compliments freely doesn’t necessarily mean pedestalizing (?) her. it shows affection, attraction and care Complimenting looks shows affection and care? I mean it probably does if you're already in a relationship, but how is that the case when you're on a date or cold approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:38 AM
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I like to compliment them on their values / beliefs / morals / actions or make positive assumptions based on them after the initial interactions. It seems like the most genuine approach, it shows that you listen and it demonstrates your own values and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:34 AM
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If men simply stopped simping, it'd already fix the majority of problems with today's dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:06 PM
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I guess you lack reading comprehension. Once again, they don't consider them disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:02 PM
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You're clueless, nobody thinks they are disgusting. Red pillers think they are simply not suited for long-term relationships, let alone marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:16 PM
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How dare these incel men ask for information determining the future of your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:14 PM
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It abosultely does, especially if you plan on marrying the woman. The higher her body count is, the higher the chances she'll divorce you, or otherwise high body count just leads to relationship dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:13 PM
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That's weird because she said she has a boyfriend and only started going to clubs after getting with her boyfriend, and her boyfriend was the first person to ever approach her. Making out and grinding on someone while being in a relationship doesn't scream decent and trustworthy person to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:50 AM
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She literally JUST said she went there to check out the place. Obviously, if you're not looking to sleep with someone and only wanna talk to people you're not gonna care about physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:17 AM
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Ok, I didn't know all these details, I apologise for making some assumptions. you have more success with confidence and body language than just height and natural ability Is "natural ability" a shrouded, obscure synonym for an attractive face? If you behave confident while being short, ugly, and skinny you're gonna come across as a delusional clown. Physical attractiveness is the most important factor in cold approaches, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 07:47 AM
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So the short skinny dude approached and entertained you, you had a good time, then what? Then the tall buff dude approached you? Why didn't either of you leave with the short skinny guy to somewhere if he was so cool? That's the sole reason for approaching a woman / women, if he didn't manage to leave the place with one of them, he failed, just like the tall buff dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 07:04 AM
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Be tall and handsome. What you say or do matters very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:38 AM
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