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More people = more suffering, fewer resources, more strangers you can't trust, more uneducated helpless leeches, more frustrated angry violent outbursts The list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:44 AM
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ehk let's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:36 AM
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I don't know anymore but I used to think that non breeder sexuality might be an act of nature when a species like ours is over populated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:24 AM
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OK but what if you weren't there? Can you just answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 03:12 AM
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How about a woman who can keep a cool head and make herself useful in a crisis. Is that more appealing to a terper than a woman who needs you to hold her hand like a little girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:37 AM
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Yes but TRP seems to values displaying Alpha traits to satisfy a woman's hypergamous nature "A woman will do xyz for an Alpha, a woman will let an alpha treat/talk to her a way that she wouldn't let a Beta"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:32 AM
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OK I'll try to give a specific example. Let's say you go to a party with your SO and you are quickly in separate circles. You hear her group (let's say a mixed gender group of people she doesn't know that well) break into genuine laughter. You glance over to see that she seems to have cracked a joke and is being well received by these people based on her wit. Do you feel a little surge of pride that you came to the party with her? Do you admire her ease in social situations? That she can make pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:12 AM
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Doesn't TRP think all women are hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:57 AM
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Things like intelligence, strength of character, interpersonal skills. Not just stereotypically feminine things but things that make a person of either gender admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:56 AM
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actually the bot said what I would have said. I think that wanting to be held in high esteem by your life partner is generally desired by people of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:45 AM
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Yeah but you just said that being trustworthy and not embracing TRP were mutually exclusive. Did you not really mean that? I'm not trying to be semantic it's just hard to pick up on hyperbole in this kind of format.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:28 AM
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You definitely don't have to embrace TRP to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:16 AM
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How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:48 AM
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I've heard of some study that showed that men take break up harder though the explanation was supposed to be that women tend to have more emotional support whereas men are expected to suck it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 01:18 AM
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Not to mention multiple accounts, people being banned for little shit left and right or just making a new account b/c they said something embarrassing and don't want it drudged up again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 04:16 PM
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TBP doesn't say women aren't shallow. We say that women aren't demonic, subhuman, mental children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 01:03 PM
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You know that you, more than anyone else, leave unproductive little insults all over ppd all the time right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:53 AM
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I think your theory is more or less on point. I work with a lot of black women and have heard some pretty appalling stories and advice about exploiting men for money. But I have to say I've been hit on by black men before and they never seemed very redpill. Usually they act very friendly and straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:38 PM
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You have to make a joke because she exposed that you are talking out of you're ass
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:21 PM
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I would never joke about drugs because I really need to know which strangers on the internet I would be doing drugs with if we were all magically at a bar together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:31 AM
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But did you know that doing really good coke ruins you from enjoying shittier coke?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:57 AM
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but you still partake at parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 02:16 AM
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uhhhhhhh... do you do that shit a lot? 'Cause that would explain some things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 12:35 AM
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I think we should just be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:03 PM
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;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 03:00 PM
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So it this whole post just about you thinking you have a small penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:54 PM
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do dildo/vibrators count?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:40 PM
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Sorry, but feminism will not rest until you guys stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:37 PM
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Do you mean different partners or actually different cocks?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:36 PM
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Actually that's what I think. It was pretty telling that Freud who smokes a thousand cigars a day assured us all that "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" but you know, you men can be pretty into your penises. I mean some men name their penises little "their name"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:25 PM
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Throughout most of human history humans lived in tribes or communities without monogamous relationships. How can we say that one gender is more suited for monogamy than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 02:23 PM
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Freud describes men as having a fixation on their penis from utero. The straight male obsession with penis is a valid discussion to have regarding trp. You taking a remark about it and turning it into an accusation about your sexuality makes you look like you're on the defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:53 PM
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So are men incapable of bonding then? since they have no biological imperative?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:42 PM
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I didn't read anything homophobic in that. You're the one who took it there so do with that information what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:23 PM
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The more men a woman has been with, the more variety she has experienced, the less likely she is to be satisfied with the same cock every day Why would a woman be ruined by variety but not a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 01:19 PM
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I've seen alpha defined by redpillers as "attractive to women" and that if a man is getting laid a lot he is technically alpha. You disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:55 PM
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The truth is older people get together. Some 50 year old men date younger women but it's really much more common for them to date women their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 10:40 PM
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Why would a woman rationalize him as an alpha when most people don't think in those terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 10:36 PM
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Like Afghanistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:43 PM
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If men have it harder then isn't it rational for them to have more mental illness? Exactly what I'm saying. TRP twists everything to fit their narrative, men have mental/emotional problems it's because society caters to women. Women have mental or emotional problems it's because they're weak. Why not deduce that mental illness is rare in men because society caters to them, that the ones who are unusually violent have an unusual disorder, and that more women are depressed because life is harder f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:09 PM
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No, all men. If women were forced to stay home because they might be victimized the men would still victimize each other. Instead all men should be forced to stay home so nobody will be victimized. It's the only logical solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:53 PM
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To you and TRP higher cases of male homicide including deranged mass shootings, male drug and alcohol addiction, male violent crimes, and male arson and property damage are all symptoms of men having it harder but increased instances of female depression and other mental illnesses prove that women are weaker. I think bias is clouding your judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:41 PM
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Women kill themselves in ways that often don't result in immediate death, like cutting or pills, so they are more likely to be saved/helped You think (in general) a failed suicide attempt is made with as much earnest as a successful one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:29 PM
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OK oppression Olympics aside. Women live with a mental illness men snap and commit violent crimes and commit suicide more. They can't handle their mental illness arguably women are stronger because they bare it without killing people or themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:24 PM
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women don't have any disparities unique to them do they? Whose more likely to be sexually molested as a child? Whose more likely to suffer from gender discrimination? Who has to decide their future based on limited fertile years? Who will be expected to care for ageing parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:16 PM
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the bluepill belief system isn't that women are attracted to feminine men where do you get this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:08 PM
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How can you say who has a harder life when you've only been a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:05 PM
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Maybe men should be kept inside if they can't stop physically harming people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:58 PM
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Women also experience higher rates of mental illness in general, but of course you didn't know that did you? No reason to be patronizing. I actually did already know that because I've been reading the manosphere for some time now and it comes up. repeatedly, most often it's mra's bemoaning that society doesn't acknowledge male metal illness or discourages men from seeking help. However on TRP it seems to be held up as proof that women are crazier than men. However I've noticed that the significa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:57 PM
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The particular sexualized shame is what particularly traumatizes a rape victim in a different way than victims of other violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:48 PM
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Male victims of sexual assault experience not only the more traditional "rape trauma syndrome" as described by Burgess and Holmstrom (1974, 1975), with its concurrent features of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), but also a number of other issues which exacerbate the victimization experience (Anderson, 1981; Calderwood, 1987; Mezey & King, 1989). Παγε − http://www.wcl.american.edu/endsilence/documents/impactandrecoveryofprisonrape.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:45 PM
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Sexual abuse scars men for life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:38 PM
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And you'll find most of those men pretty shaken up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:30 PM
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If he had been penetrated against his will then it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:25 PM
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ha ha ha ha ha OMG are you fucking kidding me? Yeah the team you're on is logical and the team the opposition is on is irrational. Original thoughts, dude. RP does the very thing you're talking about all day long, don't fool yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:24 PM
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"stupid whores" = women in general? Oh, for fuck's sake... whatever I'm all set with this conversation do your wacky thing, you ole stupid whore, you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:03 PM
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The spite is based on lack of accountability, but again, you're calling them whores. You're calling them out on being sexually immoral, sexually promiscuous after they've been sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:54 PM
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Do they still have the right to report the crime that was committed against them and get proper counseling? Why is there so much spite against women who find themselves victimized even if they were engaging in risky behavior? And, yeah I'm aware that modern drinking patterns are very unlike most historic examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:43 PM
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Maybe that's a bad example because you could call a rape victim a fool too, but calling he a whore is entirely something else. So why do you think a rape victim is a whore, hhl?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:26 PM
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Are you trying to be cute now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:18 PM
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99.99% of the time you don't get raped or attacked when you drink in mixed company. And college drinking culture normalizes and promotes over consumption as part of the college experience. Women shouldn't have to miss out just because they are women. And to answer your question about harsh judgment and blame, rape is one of the only crimes where preventability is so scrutinized and victim blaming so ardent. No one is jumping on the guy who got mugged because he was walking around a dark street d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:13 PM
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No seriously I thought she was just being a huge cunt because I couldn't fathom anyone earnestly calling rape victims "whores" for drinking in mixed company.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 01:48 PM
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Any particular reason why you don't believe the story?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:37 AM
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depressed people tend to not know who they are. iDK maybe that applies to a lot of them or maybe it doesn't. I totally understand how an A moral "biologically" based ethos can simplify life and give you a temporary contentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 01:03 AM
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Oh, my bad I thought Brave New World was the one where people were given all kinds of devices to hinder any kind of natural advantage, because everyone had to be at the same equal level in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:45 AM
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They aren't all oblivious. Redpillschool has said that he has a high sex drive and honestly he "holds frame" pretty well in a debate but it can only go so far when he's arguing a really bad point to begin with. (marital rape debate)[http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qrdfj/martial_rape_why_the_confusion/cdfoopb] if you're interested. I'm kind of proud of it, it's pretty hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:38 AM
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Well, maybe you're right. This question's been up for an hour and has no real responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:25 AM
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I get that. (obviously I'm here right?) btw I think you asked a really good question and you prefaced it well and it's unfortunate it's kind of just being rebuffed at face value. RPers are obsessed with sex in every way. Getting sex, the social dynamics of sex, a male human's success as defined only by sex, ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:23 AM
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dude, you should have stopped engaging that loser like eight comments ago
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:15 AM
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TRP talks about spermjacking and "divorce rape" all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:05 AM
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fair enough I only skimmed the top for context. uuuhhhhhh yeah, I think people are dumb sometimes. My husband did time so the power of withholding sex is not in my arsenal whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:02 AM
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Well the strike in Kenya that worked stopped violence the mtgow thing is first world and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:53 PM
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The article makes it look like it's worked a few time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:27 PM
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What the Hell is a sex strike?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:02 PM
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Yeah I'm saying that she thinks the art world has become like the society in Brave New World.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:41 PM
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Women want to look good for everybody our commercialized culture gives women the constant message that they have to be attractive not to attract men but because the only way to matter as a female is to be pretty. Just think about when female candidates run how much everyone, even women, comment on their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:32 PM
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In your first comment you said "every form of art" now you think art is only paintings? And quilting can't be art? Have they come for your Jew card yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:23 PM
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Thanks for your opinion hetero sexual man who is totally wrong and comes across as mad jelly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:02 AM
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Ah I found the one I was looking for Kara Walker saw her in a video we watched about art in college she's amazing. BTW correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you a quilter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:58 AM
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Take your pick out of these hundreds of names and tell me they're all shit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_women_artists paintings aren't really my forte I'm more of a book person and there are definitely a million fantastic female writers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:26 AM
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That's a thing? That's embarrassing for whoever does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:29 AM
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That's just your misogynistic opinion. Most people enjoy quite a lot of art produced by women. And I don't think you're weird brave new world theory on art culture had any merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 01:26 AM
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Sorry should have expanded I grew up in a very liberal bubble and most girls I went through school with were lead to believe that the double standard was breathing it's dying breaths and no man in my generation would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:26 PM
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Not true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:11 PM
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Confirmed and brought up Unitarian Universalist. I highly recommend it as a way for agnostic/humanitarian secularists to expose their kids to religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:08 PM
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I'm from the North East so door opening isn't as common. We are polite in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 05:08 AM
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She is stupid in this scenario she's 19. duh. No? Not worthy of empathy because you were naive at 19?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:48 PM
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Fathers leave their children but the mother is to blame because she was horrible and drove him away. Mothers who leave horrible fathers are to blame for having a kid with him in the first place. is this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:46 PM
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What about the men who chose bad mothers to bare* their children then? edit typo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:41 PM
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Still men impregnant 19 year old girls and convince them to keep it then change their minds when things get tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:41 PM
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Is she literally selling her eggs? No? Then what's the issue? Edit to add: who are these men who require that their children inherit black lined eyelids?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:05 PM
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I'm not sue that's true actually. But you're saying that women are the ones responsible for the premarital sex? Men shouldn't be expected to Co parent when they help create an unwanted pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:58 PM
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That's not the definition of a single mother, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:43 PM
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So what you're saying is you are indeed tinfoil hat level manosphere crazy? A woman who ends a relationship with the father of her children for any reason is worse than NAMBLA or the Taliban because of how the children grow up. But a man who leaves his wife and child isn't even on your list
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:40 PM
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So... men are abandoning their children left by killing themselves? What's your point about suicide? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:33 PM
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Do you know what lying means? The make up is right there on her fucking face where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:21 PM
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Again: empathy doesn't mean you have to approve of everything they do, just that you feel for them as another sentient being. But regardless you think single mothers are that way by choice in virtually every circumstance and you're dead wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:19 PM
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I mean I guess I pretty much agree but I can't really see it as "deceptive" I don't think a guy acting rich is deceptive either, but maybe because that's not really my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:16 PM
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I actually didn't read the other post but I know that it boasted "without actually lying" or something like that and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, most people try to make themselves look and seem desirable this is understood. Aerobus claimed wearing makeup was lying to men: They lie to men by inflating their looks I think he's being melodramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:04 PM
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It would still be ridiculous to have no empathy for people in a third world country. empathy doesn't mean you have to approve of everything they do, just that you feel for them as another sentient being.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:55 PM
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You have no empathy for any single mothers unless the husband died because, I guessing, you read some ridiculous one sided bullshit in the manosphere. It's just pretty fucking hilarious that you could write that opinion out and hit submit without noticing how absolutely brainwashed and retarded you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:47 PM
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Well if men like the company of an attractive woman then wouldn't it make sense for a woman to make herself look more attractive? I mean back in the days before feminism women were outright told to wear make up by their bosses to face the public or just in the office, because men like having pretty women to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:42 PM
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That's just fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:38 PM
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Isn't a woman making his experience with her better by "inflating her looks"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:33 PM
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Not really, the big tell is whe they seem egar to be petted on the head. for example door opening can be a sign of either but some men open the door brusque and casual they were probably raised that way and don't think much of it. Others open the door and try to make eye contact and smile like they want your acknowledgement to their chivalry. And before you go telling me that the first guy could just as easily have been putting me on a pedestal too, you should know I don't like having a door ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:17 PM
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WTF? They aren't the same thing at all. yeah you might be polite to someone you put on a pedestal but you aren't putting them on a pedestal by being polite, you put them on a pedestal by giving them admiration they haven't earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 01:18 AM
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Girls do appreciate a nice guy as in people like kind and polite people. Why are you so bent on missing my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 09:39 PM
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I never indicated that this was a big problem in my life and I'm not talking about people being too nice to me I'm talking about men who don't really see women as fellow humans and prefer to project a juvenile fantasy on every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:21 AM
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No but in other instances too. Like that scene in Little Women where the men are talking about women's suffrage and some of the men were saying that women should get the vote because women are more kinder to their fellow man and Jo objects and says women should get the vote because they're people. It's just exasperating that some men think we want to be put on a pedestal. We just want to be people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:55 AM
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You must not have seen the movie This is the End
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:15 AM
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How are they getting scammed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:08 AM
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The pill makes a woman's body think it's already pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:05 AM
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Right this nugget of common wisdom proves that women don't mature mentally or emotionally past the age of 18 and are incapable of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:38 AM
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Not really I find it extremely off putting and idiotic when men put women on a pedestal regardless of their relationship to me. I don't like it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:32 AM
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No I was using these words to be succinct but what I mean is that TRP is about what you can get and RPW is about what you can give. If Redpill Women believed RP theory but set out to be selfish it would be about getting af/bb. But like HHL said that's not really what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:28 PM
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Many of the best examples come from Mods or are on the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:00 PM
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Like I said the only commonality of TBP is that we hate TRP we aren't a feminist group and even if we were feminism is not a monolith. You can't take some example of feminist hypocrisy and hold TBP accountable for response. That would be like TBP holding TRP accountable for everything said in MGTOW forums. And you want to take a good hard look at your own sub if you want to throw the word smug around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:59 PM
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I don't think that. I'm not like other BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:53 PM
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Well TBP isn't a feminist sub per-se it's just anti-redpill. Many of us are very critical of the shittier parts of feminism. That being said both philosophies believe that society is programming their gender to give of themselves to the other gender disproportionately and aim to fix that attitude. Feminists tall women to believe in themselves that they're worth just as much as men are, TRP tells men that women are worth much less than they are, and even encourages mild emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:36 AM
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not mean necessarily, but self-interested certainly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 06:41 AM
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I kind of wish it was because it would be way more interesting to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:37 AM
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But if unicorns don't exist than TRP says that any married man deserves this treatment but no women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:30 AM
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It does because I think that bp women are altruistic and bp men are selfish but not the the extremem degrees that trp thinks they should be respectively. That's why trp condems women and praises men for the same exact behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:07 AM
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But even in Married Redpill isn't it still all about how the man deserves to be catered to and the woman should put him ahead of herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:13 AM
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I meant Machiavellian more in the sense of the "look out for number one" mind-set whereas Redpill Women is all about not stepping on your partner's toes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:10 AM
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I totally reject that premise. Boys are still brought up to be more self centered and girls are brought up to be nicer. The feminist efforts at reverse programming are the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:55 AM
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my understanding of frame is that your SMV decreases just from admitting you have a headache Well, shit are you gonna just never be human because it might make a woman temporarily one iota less attracted to you? This is probably why I can't be redpill I can't imagine being attractive ever mattering so much. I mean technically speaking is a woman less attracted to a man after finding out that he is not a superhuman who never has physical ailments. Yes because a fantasy is shattered. Same thing as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 10:36 PM
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Again I don't know why you'd make these assumptions about a TV show you've never seen, you're very much off base.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 09:05 PM
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I don't think women generally lose attraction based on occasional displays of vulnerability but it probably depends on how close you are. I think it's more acceptable, for example, if you were casually dating for a woman to complain about her day than for a guy to do it, but just like any relationship complaining too much gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:44 PM
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I take it you have never seen Sex and the City it's really not about women thinking they deserve great men for no reason other than existing it's more like women who want great men and if they can't find what they're looking for are willing to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:20 PM
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yea, if a guy feels that way he's not ltr material for someone who doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 12:46 AM
2

How do you figure society tells them that the beta path is the correct one for happiness? Since learning about TRP I've noticed when rp messages are touted in the media and it's not uncommon whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 11:18 PM
2

Freedom without accountability is what all young people want but what accountability are you referring to here? Some misogynists on the internet judging them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 10:32 PM
2

OP isn't talking about Strong Independent Women, they're talking about young, inexperienced teenage/early twenties girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 10:21 PM
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You're wasting your time. terpers don't know what true love is. If they did they wouldn't be terpers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:09 PM
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I'm against purple pill having it's own identity because it would imply a more defined identity for bluepill. And that means bluepill would probably become a term more associate with terper's concept of it as a mindless regurgitated opinion of that one out of touch openly feminist English teacher we all had Sophmore year. Bluepill doesn't necessarily mean you're every opinion is the epitome of politically correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 08:35 PM
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Oh my gosh the sarcasm is squared. Does that kind of make your head hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:23 AM
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Sorry that's the beehs. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:21 AM
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How is it bullshit when victims are treated the way they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 06:00 PM
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I've seen certain MRAs claim that 85% of rapes accusations are false, and while the article may have been posted on April 1st the commenters don't seem to be taking it as a joke and it was posted to TRP today
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:55 AM
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So you think MRAs don't spread lies about false rape statistics. you think the vast majority of rape accusations are false? and why does trp frequently make posts about how women actually like rape like this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:43 AM
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MRAs spread so much disinformation on this topic the Southern Poverty Law Center declared them a hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 03:14 AM
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I don't know. As you're probably aware this is well within the norm for any crime. I still think virtually every rape victim faces a disproportionate amount of doubt, dismissal, and judgement. Hence "rape culture"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 02:50 AM
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as inconclusive as that is it doesn't even touch on unreported rapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 01:27 AM
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I disagree, at least outside of a college campus, people disbelieving a girl who said she was raped is much more common than people believing a false accusation if not for the mere fact that rape is more common than false rape accusations. edit missed some words there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 12:32 AM
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I'm not talking about the legal system I'm talking about the way our culture reacts to hearing about rape. You can see it on reddit all the time and not just manosphere subreddits. Lots of people are ready to assume that if a girl says she was raped she's probably lying, or is at least partially to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 11:02 PM
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My understanding of the term "rape culture" is a culture in which victims are doubted and chastised when they come forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 09:48 PM
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OK then let me be clear about something and we can be done. Calculating a situation based on how you can be socially dominant/successful/attractive goes abrasively against my moral code which is use my inner strength, wisdom, and kindness to shape the world with positive energy as best I can and not give a fuck what people think of me. Caring about social hierarchy in every situation is a weakness that keeps you from being the best person you can be. Choosing to live in a superficially charged r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:26 AM
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treating someone a certain way or being romantically or socially disinterested in them based on their appearance is shallow by definition. Not wanting to date an ascetically disfigured person is shallow but not uncommon or difficult to relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:12 AM
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except your initial response if all about how to best make your response to benefit the way a group sees you. Including her was an afterthought and "establishing a social hierarchy" by which you mean you are top dog and benevolently including a woman who has such little value according to you because her looks are tarnished that you compare her to a mental retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:58 AM
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I don't care, you disgust me. Your values are selfish and morally repulsive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:46 AM
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Yeah, I'll just have to take your word for it...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:38 AM
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dude, I can't even look at your post and imagine wanting to talk to you ever. The whole thing is just disgusting. From talking about your drop in social status, to idolizing Patrice O'neal and his idiotic rape joke I just don't get how you can aspire to be this way. plus yeah that joke would cut her just as bad if not worse, because your making her the butt of a joke in front of people and basically all you can think about is if some heartless bitch hears it and thinks you're funny enough to blo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:18 AM
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"sorry I could never date you sweetie, I'm an asshole, you'd probably get burned out on me" that's not tactful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:02 AM
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It's shallow maybe not uncommonly so but it's still shallow by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 01:11 AM
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misogynists are jerks but jerks aren't necessarily misogynists. I admit girls are attracted to jerks, briefly. Most of them wise up after one experience. I already told you that's not why we think TRP is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 10:26 AM
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None of those things are largely propagated by the media. Its more like: "The concept of cougars is hilarious" "Women have a larger sex drive in their thirties" The weight thing varies and like many people I think it's largely by social class but despite that I think realistically there are about 40 messages from the media idealizing thinness for every one that promotes accepting your fat body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:55 AM
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Yeah but they weren't attracted to misogyny they were attracted to other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:19 AM
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actually I'm only 24 and he 27. My point was that not all men prefer variety to monogamy, which you seem to agree with.But I get what you're saying. The male midlife crisis taking form in an affair/affairs with younger women has happened more than once in my extended family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:44 AM
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I'm gonna go ahead and say NAMALT. My husband, for example, was very good at picking up girls, many of whom were more conventionally attractive than me, but he entered an LTR with me when he was 21 and married me when he was 25. Sex just isn't the end all be all for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 01:56 AM
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Will_Im_Not is spot on. If you look at TBP almost all of our posts are pointing out comments where users say really misogynistic things, rape apologia, and really dumb field reports. We don't decry the old wisdom of "girls like jerks."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 01:09 AM
4

bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:05 PM
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yeah it's three core red pill beliefs condensed: Women want to be degraded, women are nothing more than a series of fuckholes, women subconsciously understand (TRP) reality in their little monkey brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:34 PM
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When you tease a woman with jokes and act confident they'll be intrigued, think that you're fun to talk to, and feel slightly flattered by attention. Some people call this flirting YEAH THEIR HALF RETARDED MONKEY BRAINS KNOW THAT THEY ARE A SERIES OF FUCK HOLES THAT DESERVE TO BE DEGRADED!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:12 PM
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raging or mocking something that especially bothers you with like-minded people can be theraputic and enjoyable. TRP actually does it all the time, they post examples from reddit and feminist articles and articles from women's magazines and okcupid and classified ads. Then they rage together and mock the people featured and mock women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 12:07 AM
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it has been said many times before you did, get over yourself. It's in the sidebar for Christ's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 12:28 AM
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You're right I was trying to demean you but that makes a lot of sense. I know a couple of dudes who have done hard time so I've seen guys get that big and bigger without steroids or expensive nutrition supplements. Also if you remember fro before I have something of a stigma about steroids so I guess I thought if someone used steroids it would be to achieve a body that was nearly impossible without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/14 01:44 PM
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considering that you use steroids and are a fitness trainer and have said that you are six feet tall, that number is somewhat underwhelming...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/14 02:16 AM
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pedestalizing is stupid, but why does women liking sex take them off the pedestal for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/14 01:52 AM
1

A common trope illustrates this. "What's wrong?" asks a concerned man. "Nothing!" replies an obviously upset woman. This is considered completely acceptable and the more I think about the more it baffles me. Here is something that is interesting to me. My husband does not stand for this which would be considered - Alpha - at the same time he is taking me off the pedastal and expecting me to be a mature adult -Male Feminist- When he is immature I also point it out he acts kind of pissy and then c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 03:02 AM
1

yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:41 AM
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I don't really think it's the same but maybe GLO can explain better since he's the one who uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 11:55 PM
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All joking aside, the idea of putting hormones in my body wigs me out, Ive never used hormonal birth control or gone on anti-depressants or anything. Why do you use steroids? Don't you feel like you're not your real self?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 11:14 PM
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that the physical pleasure plays a huger part in the tingle factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 03:07 AM
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I bring that up because most romance novels go into vivid descriptions of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 02:17 AM
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I take it you've not read said novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/14 01:55 AM
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Attraction to someone's character is basic enough to be considered foundation, it's just something that becomes more important when people start looking to settle down for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 01:05 AM
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So you're basically saying TRP is trying to sum up human behavior into a nice, easy to understand package and has no room to consider mature adult feelings that actually exist and are a huge variable in the kinds of things they love to obsess over?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 12:32 AM
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You also have women who have sexually liberated college years and then decide to settle down with a guy they want to be in a relationship with. And TRP criticizes her and any man who would have her because she's had so many dicks in her. It's like TRP completely ignore concepts like compatibility and respect and only focus on the most shallow aspects of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 07:59 PM
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The manosphere is rife with tales of carousel riders who "settled" for some beta male - that's hardly an expression of respect. Openly saying that you settled for your spouse is obviously disrespectful but the redpill also insists that this is the case for every woman who decides she wants to settle down and needs to stop dating jerks and find a nice guy. This is the same thing as a man deciding he wants to stop dating barsluts and club girls and find a nice girl. Is that disrespectful to the gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 03:12 AM
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Right on. But I think there is a large grey area of redpillers who want to bang lots of sluts and then settle down with a low notch count girl. Maybe these guys have the sense to not bemoan the high number of dtf girls in our society but you do see a lot of posts with men bragging about disrespecting a plate and given the anti-slut sentiments expressed in the sub I figured they thought these women deserved disrespect for being slutty. edit: keyboard stuttered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/13 02:16 AM
5

hmm... I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 06:24 PM
12

Listen, men can't make up for things by giving you a lot of orgasms, especially if they insist on treating you as an inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 04:32 PM
10

If I get my clothes messy cooking it's usually my sleeve so maybe I need to find some kind of demure, feminine smock? Then when my husband looks at me lights up and asks "The fuck are you wearing?" I will silently return to eating spoonfuls of cake batter as I bitterly recall how I could have been an astronaut if a certain douchebag didn't knock me up. /s (except for the smock part I might design that)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 04:26 PM
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no it's not, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 04:10 PM
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Regardless of that, they're now trying to rebuild their relationship and Redpillers are telling him to ignore her feelings and trust issues and and make her his sex doll. You don't think that's kind of fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:57 PM
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why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:51 PM
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No I'm comparing your attitude of "historically these type of people are submissive so I think the ones who aren't are crazy" to believing in drapetomania.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:40 PM
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It's a woman's fault if her man cheats on her because she wont satisfy him? What about the other way around?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:34 PM
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I hope you don't find this below the belt but did you know that in the 19th century they used to think that African-American slaves were naturally submissive, and the ones that wanted to run away had a mental illness? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:23 PM
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Here's a few examples that stand out in my memory: Here an endorsed contributor advises a guy who is deploying soon to film himself cumming on her face in her sleep to get future revenge for the cheating on him she will surely do. here a contributor tells someone whose wife is struggling to enjoy sex with her husband after finding out about his affairs to disregard her feelings and "treat her like a little girl" And recently here a Redpiller encourages a guy to cheat on the mother of his infant …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:12 PM
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What's frustrating sometimes during these debates is that redpillers don't always acknowledge how misogynistic TRP can be. There's nothing wrong with holding a traditionally masculine role in a relationship and her holding a feminine one. We don't have issues with that. (Admittedly we did make fun of RPW when it was new for squealing over aprons, but that was because we thought they had to be male sock-puppeteers trying too hard.) In fact most of the time when I see a post in TRP from a guy actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 02:32 PM
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there was no unfounded accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 12:17 AM
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"I looked to find evidence" AKA "I looked for the purpose of finding evidence." Instead what I found was that you refused to be clear about your stance, as you still do. Even though it would be very easy for you to explain yourself here. Honestly, I'm almost positive I read the post where you believe you made your position clear. It was quite eely and wanting. I had a reasonable discussion here today with other redpillers who weren't using rape as a platform to stir up interest in their reddit p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 11:44 PM
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I kind of thought one of the major points of Blue Pill thought (as a reaction to Red Pill thought, I'm not speaking of what we RP'ers would call a native Blue Pill mindset) was to decide what agreements should exist in other people's (Red Pill) relationships. Am I incorrect? No, we aren't trying to dictate what should happen between consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 10:03 PM
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I know what I say is true because I've looked before. I looked because people on TBP were calling you "RapePillSchool" and I don't like when people use that word lightly so I looked to find evidence that you actually supported rape or denied to existence of marital rape and /u/sretiderytsan said it very well. You don't write your position clearly and it seems purposeful. When people say that they still don't understand your position you basically say, "well, I stated it" At one point you wore th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 06:31 PM
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No. Both A and B were my proposals of what must be the thought process of someone who doesn't believe in Marital Rape. I know that most Redpillers think that feminists say crazy things so it didn't seem far fetched that an odd redpiller might think that feminists exaggerate to this degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 06:21 PM
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Sorry. It seemed clearer in my head when I was writing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 06:18 PM
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No this is absolutely not what feminists mean when they say marital rape, both A and B were my guess at the thought process of someone who doesn't believe marital rape exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 05:33 PM
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While I agree that I personally would expect this from a partnership I believe that: It's silly for us to decide what agreements exist in other people's relationships Whether or not a wife is obligated to fulfill her husband's sexual needs isn't really relevant to the question of whether or not marital rape exists unless you believe situation B from the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 04:01 PM
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You don't have to comment, you have a reputation for being ambiguous on this topic and I'm not going to spend 20 minutes sifting through your various non-answers to find the one comment that most closely resembles a real answer. You're sick of the topic? Ignore the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 03:45 PM
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i dont think that they can legally "rape" their wives marriage doesnt imply consent to every instance of sexual intercourse that could possibly take place I feel that this is totally contradictory. Maybe you're speaking in absolutes too much? You seem to be saying that violent rape occurs between spouses but because other ambiguous situations which would legally be rape occurs between spouses also the whole concept of marital rape should be thrown out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 03:41 PM
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This comment contributes very little on it's own. You believe we put this topic "to bed" under what final ruling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/13 03:32 PM
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saying game is manipulative implies to me that the person values sex as something a woman GIVES to men and that game is tricking women to do something not in their interest. This is kind of funny as sex is supposed to be a mutually enjoyable activity. It's funny that you say this because this is one of the biggest problems TBP has with TRP. TRP generally does treat sex like something that a man gets from a woman. It shames women who have casual sex whilst encouraging men to have as much casual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/13 11:29 PM
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wow, did he delete all of those idiotic comments? what a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/13 12:57 AM
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which point, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/13 11:23 PM
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I think the redpillers have abandoned this sub completely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/13 12:51 PM
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that paternity fraud link has no information on how that data was collected or verified. And either way it's irrelevant, if your being asked to pay child support, definitely, get a paternity test. Asking your current wife or lover for a paternity test because you don't trust her is obviously going to be crazy hurtful to her. Why? Because paternity fraud is a fucking terrible thing to do, and for the person in your life closest to you to say "I know we just had a kid together, but I don't have en…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/13 08:42 PM
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I'm wondering if a lot of the Redpill/Bluepill controversy is over different interpretations of things like this. A Bluepiller might look at the 3/2 ratio and think that it's ridiculous to calculate and monitor your and your SO's signs of affection within an actual relationship, that instructing men do this in their relationships shows a disconnect from seeing women as people, and that buying into this advice means that you have no qualms about consciously manipulating women by not treating them…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/13 09:02 PM
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are you so blind that you can't see that men can be just as immature? We are freaking humans why subject yourself to this degrading crap?
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