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Yes there are women with low self-esteem, but usually it is sort of a game. Decent looking girls may say that they do not feel like being 'good enough' - but show them average guy and ask if they think he will make a good match, usually instant reaction will be 'yuck, he is a loser'. Everything need to be put in a context - women know their worth, they may not feel perfect, but it doesn't mean they consider men as their equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:27 AM
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In my country prominent feminists are using local equivalent of work 'manlet' in their everyday rhetoric. These women are either in parliament or professors at university, this particular professor called soldiers 'clowns' in 'silly clothes'. Young women identifying as feminists that I've happened to meet while studying were ranging from at least some resentment to open hate towards men. I've never met egalitarian feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:44 AM
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It depends on cuntry - ie. in my country women have lower retirement age and much higher life expectancy, and biggest suicide gap in Europe. Working class men are basically sponsoring retirement of women, ie. my father-in-lat was retired only 4 years, but my mother in law is retired for 25 years now because teachers were allowed to retire being 50. My grandpa didn't made it to retirement, but my grandma was living 97 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:35 AM
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This book is not only quite funny, but it also quite well is reflecting society with traditional gender norms. I was living in a small, very traditional town as a kid, and typical modus operandi of gender relations was following: a man would not be even talked to by girls if he didn't have money, so guy is going either to the big city or usually abroad, and is working hard to buy a car and show off to girls that he has money. Only after that he can spark any interest. They get married - this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:43 AM
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Draft is real option in Europe, it's not some 'gotcha' of manosphere. And women have verifiable advantage in education, also women have various preference in hiring especially to tech companies. There are 'women only' job fairs - never heard about similiar events organized by ie. Big4 companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:07 AM
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Most feminist hate men with passion. Reddit feminists are moderate comparing to real-life feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:08 AM
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You can pay your bills doing more cosy jobs if you no longer need to provide for your family. It is btw happening for years in developed countries - though at some point there will be no 3rd world countries to get men for hard labor from there. Which guy in his right mind would like to be roofer or bricklayer and lose his health in crazy heat ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:29 PM
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Pearl looks pretty normal - it's true that she has the 'female rowing team' vibe, but there is plenty of guys who like it. I think that she probably has a bf, but its more convenient for her to hide him - what is off putting about her is her cynism combined with intelligence, it's hard to trust her. Unattractive women are usually just a bit ignored, I see it sometimes. We have women at my work who are the size of Pearl, but there is one manager who is ultra feminine. When 'big girls' enter the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:57 AM
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Ego have very little in common with IQ - it's easy to be deceived by popularity. Women start facing problems when it comes up that they are not good enough for relationship, I guess it is hard to not be sure if guy is with you for sex only or because he couldn't do any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:44 PM
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USA does not have appeal only in EU, Japan, Korea, Australia etc. but it is by no means whole world. Rest of the world is poor and USA is still promised land for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:00 PM
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Yeah - I see them in vacation spots quite often. French, German or British woman that looks semi-retarded and quite ok looking much younger black dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:54 PM
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If money is worshipped and people consider relationship as power struggle, tthen of course it might create imbalance. However majority of people use money as a tool, and relationship is more about cooperation than competition. My wife provided for me for some time when I was studying, now I am making 4-5x more than her but this is just money - it does not give me right to treat my wife as not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:58 AM
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You can meet people but usually people of same gender, chance of meeting women who are close to your age and single are pretty low tbh. I am active in mountain bike group and in various activities at my work, but if i would be single, then there would be close to 0 chance of meeting single 35+ women via these circles. Women and men do different things in free time and women are less likely to participate in various hobby things, they can go out with close friends and spend rest of the weekend wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:16 PM
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Social circle is quite often a matter of luck. If you are working in male dominated field and your hobbies are primarily male - then you will most likely hang out with men only. Nowadays it is even harder to form mixed gender groups because women tend to preventively isolate themselves in female-only spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:56 AM
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I know some guys that met their future wives while being in USA(we're Polish - so they went the opposite route lol) - and these girls are rather in 'hot' category, though they are not 'wasp' Americans - but Latino and Black, so probably it is not impossible in US to meet someone. They are not really Chads for local big city standards - rather normal around 5'10-6'1 and not overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:42 AM
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This sub is not even 10% of TwoX ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:24 AM
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All these categories are important - though I consider plenty of women physically attractive, but I've met maybe 4 women in my life that were compatible regarding life goals and lifestyle. I value money, education and career but I do not really like these typical corporate women who spent crazy amount of money on travel, sports gear and must be almost pro in everything. I prefer rather family oriented lifestyle - active, but not getting into extremes. It's pretty rare i guess and i considered co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:44 AM
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Reddit is like a salt for open wounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:03 PM
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I am not sure if men really value their jobs or money that much. Men are lazy and cynical by nature - ie. I am working for premium cars OEM, and we cal it 'toy factory'. We are making toys for adults - women are more serious about work, because they have something to prove i think. But I think that in 50 years they will stop giving a f..k about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:45 PM
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We need to clarify one thing - r/TwoXChromosomes is a place where women with severe mental health issues are gathering to make themselves worse. Their opinion is not representing average women. None of these standards are true in the world of normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:48 PM
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Stay alive. It's not his first time - he was taken by emergency a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:14 PM
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I've found my neighbor's 19 yo son in the nearby woods last week. Dude was completely drunk and stoned - and he almost fell into the small pond, he would drown in there if i wouldn't drag him to nearby road. Sad to see nice kid wasting his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:42 AM
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Majority of men are not sex obsessed porn addicts. We want life partners - but we have our standards - be it education, being family oriented, mentally stable etc. Why not wait if this woman is decent and can be trusted ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:25 AM
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The conservative dudes I know want a woman who is close to their age, educated, normal looking(no tattoos, weird piercings, blue hair), wants a family and has her opinions - majority of these guys are even pro-choice. Only requirement is that she cannot support woke leftism, and unfortunately this disease is widespread among young women and this is the major problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:18 AM
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Instead you tight your value to how much money you can make for some old paedo dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:10 AM
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I've never had a problem with waiting for sex, but I agree with RedPill about general 'rules' for dating but I am totally against their goal of dating for casual sex or to have multiple casual sex partners at once. Imo there is no shortage of men willing to wait with sex and willing to commit to women that are conservative - quite contrary, young men are complaining that women in the west are not eligible for anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:04 AM
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Men with this attitude are considered assholes - and being an asshole is risky path for a man, sooner or later someone will come for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:48 AM
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In broader sense - nothing is ruined, people are still dating. In more narrow groups - there is political divide due to geographical and educational isolation of some groups, it is not necessary related to online stuff. Women go to universities who are female dominated and are brainwashed by leftist extremists to become pretentious sjw, while men are not following formal education and are prone to right wing extremism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:12 AM
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According to stats - highly successful women are most happy in marriage and tend to have a lot of children in some countries(not all though). In my anecdotal observation - I am living in neighborhood where there is plenty of female lawyers, doctors, heirs of family businesses - all these women are married. In my observation - single women are the ones who are very focused on their hobbies and have these crazy SJW vibes. Men do not see them as potential wives - if guy sees tattooed lady, who owns…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:58 AM
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Sometimes they leave - but friends almost never provide for sick friends. Like it or not - in the long run it's the family that will care about you, other people just come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:57 PM
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I didn't put much effort into frienships since being 22 and I didn't have much problem attracting women. They had similar views of friendships as I do - it's good for fun, but family is the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:05 PM
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Connections with friends are shallow and meaningless comparing to connection with your family - it's apples and oranges. We do not hear about friends providing for their friends for years because of illness, yet husbands do this for their wives. Your friend will send you flowers to hospital and maybe call you sometimes, that's it. Plenty of guys consider friends as fun partners, but we know that it's pointless to invest in them emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:00 PM
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But you do tax people who have more than one property ? America has very high property taxes, much higher than Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:35 PM
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This is why dating in your social circle is usually quite shitty advice - if you have an opinion of perpetually single guy it is hard to get rid of it. I've had a friend who was nerdy in high school - like he was into manga, computers, collecting figurines etc. But when he was 24 he was also very fit dude, with good job and variety of passions - but for girls he was still this 'nerdy good guy'. He found his wife in other country - in there he was just successful engineer with good looks and pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:35 PM
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It's funny how women are trying to convince us that makeup does not make a difference lol. Of course it does - new generation of make-up, cosmetic medicine, permanent make-up and other enhancers totally turned the tables. In the late 90s/early 00s majority of women in their 20s would be having very bland faces with maybe 1 in 5 standing out, now - some magic with eyebrows, haircuts and outfits will make more than half of them looking interesting. Though I do not think this will work for men - if…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:57 AM
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I do not even consider them humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:41 AM
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There is specific demographics that falls for Chad, smarter women are not impressed by looks only, they want whole package - including job, education, matching personality. But it doesn't mean that you can be uglier than them and make it up with other things, nope - looks is mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:52 AM
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At my university we've had enormous pressure. Ie. in order to be allowed to do the lab exercise you've had to pass short test at the beginning. 1st attempt was 5 minutes and two questions, if you've failed 2nd attempt was 3 minutes and three questions. If you've failed these two - goodbye, and see you next year. Or if you've failed to answer random question asked during exercise you've had to repeat the whole process. Also in math class we were doing very basic things, but the test were crazy. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:31 PM
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Being hard worker is not enough in tech oriented universities, at least the good ones. Either you are talented and able to learn fast or you are gone. From my observation above average people can force themselves to work hard, but average people are unable to keep up with required pace of learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:30 PM
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Well - our system of education makes gender divide quite fast. At the age of 15 kids are passing exams that are qualifying them to more specialized high schools. Boys tend to choose tech/millitary schools or mathematics/physics oriented, while girls choose humanities/biology. In result tech universties are male dominated(with top majors having 95:5 m:f ratio), while ie. psychology can have inverse gender ratio. Educational gap is big and growing - but blue collar men tend to earn much more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:49 PM
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Of course that men will project personality into attractive woman. Woman who is at most 3 is usually NPC, you do not assume that it will be fun to spend weekend with her, or you do not think about her favorite sport activities etc. Halo effect works on both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:20 PM
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If she isn't bare minimum of what you expect then you are incompatible. You cannot force someone to do sex acts they do not enjoy - it is called rape. Your partner is not your toy ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:10 PM
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No woman in her right mind would want her partner to get injured or killed for the purpose of her entertainment. If she wants that then she is just crazy and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:57 PM
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Tbh I've never faced situation of woman refusing to do things that she enjoyed before - actually quite the opposite - they wanted to try new things, women tend to be very curious about kinks in my experience, way more than they admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:47 PM
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I think that we should be able to admit, without being judged or without being accused of 'desperation', that we are simply unhappy alone. I do not know why it is so important to pretend that we are all so independent and self-sufficient that we can do perfectly fine alone ? I wasn't fully happy being alone - sure, friends are cool but friends will never put you as their prio in life, if they will find better job they will go for it without thinking, but your partner will consider You as main dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:45 AM
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Tbh in case of Musk I think that his wives were just equally weird and crazy as he is and they were simply a good match, besides they were actually quite looksmatched - he seemed to not go for the hottest women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:26 AM
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In fact everyone is getting better life - better life doesn't mean carefree life. In the end - everyone ends up having a good life that has a purpose and is not lonely. Boomers had their ethos that they were proud of, they've built their factories, their communities, they've had families and friends. But this requires some sacrifice ofc - but this sacrifice is not really as big as some people fearmonger about. I am millenial myself - and I think that what changed is being allowed to remain a chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:42 PM
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Some scientists argue that this will be the case - those who are not adjusted to thrive in modernity will die off, but still - there will be a chaos that our children will have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:06 PM
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Economy is an excuse. Even though early millenials suffered some hardships - still every generation is better off than previous. People just have much bigger consumption needs - they want more exotic travel, better gadgets, more leisure time, more eating out, more fun, more clothes. iPad kids are result of infantilization of society - their parents are not working their asses off, their parents are scrolling their phones. People are wasting enormous amounts of time on mindless activities. If the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:04 PM
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I think that this sensitivity/being afraid of faux pas is actually blocking men from making such romantic gestures - they are quite often afraid or feel awkward doing such things. I agree with you that it is mainly due to lack of practice/observation - same as dancing, many men do not dance even though it's sometimes quite easy way to spark some interest in women. Many men also cannot compliment women without awkward vibe - also due to lack of practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:13 PM
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I've had quite a lot of contact with alcohol addicted men in my life - and I can tell you that majority of them were quite sensitive people. Lot of their problems were due to being vulnerable and unable to cope with the world, there were broken hearts, broken dreams, some humiliating events from the past, being subject to violence. I think many men might be too shy to confidently perform romantic gestures, but in reality they are quite often quite easily getting emotionally involved, very often …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:40 AM
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I think that there is a myth that if woman puts effort - man will not appreciate it, but it omits the fact that there is quite a lot of men who are just shy or not thinking about hitting up girls constantly. Can shy guy or guy who is focused on his studies/career be a good partner ? My wife's colleagues will say - yes, majority of husbands in our closest circle are rather silent 'athletic + nerd' type. Women who were more traditional(mainly 40+) were waiting passively and they complain much more…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:27 AM
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I'd say that this is narrowed to US internet. In Europe this is far less prevalent - tbh looking at the street I'd say that 70% of young men and women look great, and this is pretty much opinion shared by majority of women I know as well. Young girls may be having objections regarding maturity of their peers - but aesthetically - not really. Chad and Stacy are rare, and women are aware that their short, chubby friends might be cute, but they are not in the celebrity league.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:17 AM
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Shaming can have very practical implications - ie. having bad opinion may result in poor networking and having it harder to get a job. Or your kid may face bullying. Some doors will be closed for you forever if you will ruin your reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:39 PM
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Lots of countries - including mine, went from poverty to being developed. This means that idiots and abusers have it much harder to get married, since their income means shit to women. Second thing is that young men no longer accept the role of working animal - they actually start to take care of themselves, their appearance, health, life-work balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:07 PM
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It is.most likely because you are hanging out in social circle that is mostly male, so women there have a big choice.I used to be a metalhead - and gender ratio was like 1:10, so obviously every girl had tall and handsome dude. But I've had friend that was studying pharmacy and there were plenty of single girls there, when i visited her in her flat all her roommates became silent and awkward. She later said to me that they rarely speak to men and are nervous about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:42 PM
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I am afraid that guys who are getting maybe 1 date in a month have literally 0 chances of being upfront with wanting casual sex and succeeding. I was doing well in OLD - but all girls I've met were very clear that any kind of casual thing is a 'no'. I've had 1 fwb and she was 5 years older and after some(not very long) time I've got ultimatum, that either we will be real couple or we should split.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:11 PM
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Being jacked does not make you attractive. I disagree. I used to be skinny AF - weighting 62kg at 178cm - that was a disaster, but once i reached 76kg and only slightly visible muscles - that was a huge change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:19 PM
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Environment in western countries is in far better shape now than it was in the 1970s when leaded fuel was burned in gas guzzlers and majority of energy generation was done using coal and lignite, not to mention funny things like DDT. Btw - lefties killed nuclear energy, being biggest contributor to rapid growth of CO2 levels and rise of dictatorships. Let's leave thinking about environment to adults - lefties did their job. You are mistaking capitalist society with anarchist society, inherent pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:21 PM
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Btw - the height thing is crazy. Female managers in my company and companies that I've been working for are usually above 180cm tall. This is not very unusual height for a woman in Central/Norther Europe, but is still quite far above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:13 PM
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The thing is that they won't pay a dime for lowering birth rates - they will be banging underage girls on some sunny island - 1 billion more or less won't make them suffer, but people like you and me and our children will be waiting for months to get some basic medical service.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:23 PM
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They shouldn't be tied to people who are like that. But not everyone is like that and not all men should be put in one basket, and we should not treat motherhood as living hell by default. I am calling out men on avoiding fatherhood, I do not think they are doing good thing. The same with redpillers and their sex obsession. Feminists do not seem to leave their battle mode yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:20 PM
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It's a warning that women sent to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:14 PM
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Immigration will be a distant memory in 50 years, world is developing fast and birth rates are plummeting everywhere. And economy do not need unskilled drugged labor force - these methods were used against men in the past, workers were poisoned with alcohol for centuries the same thing with soldiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:02 PM
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And they are not doing enough as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:58 AM
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Fathers of non-existent children with non-existent partners ? Women are having upper hand in this game - sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:50 AM
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Work and live is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:48 AM
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Ultimately no one is left alive in the west if we apply feminist logic. Feminists are pretty much pissed on nature that women are different than men, but instead of looking for constructive solutions of making up for loss caused by childbirth, they prefer to simply withdraw from the game - cool, but it won't change anything apart from making life of your children miserable. There is also strong component of self-pity, similar to whining of redpillers and incels - but no one takes them seriously,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:19 AM
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Yeah I know this feminist fearmongering: trapped, no value, no hobbies, no freedom etc. This is bullshit but pretty much you've summed up feminist propaganda nicely. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:27 AM
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only thing females can do that males can’t, Is get pregnant, give birth snd breastfeed. Apart from that men can also the the primary parent role get somehow the role of unpaid caregivers was always dumped on woman. I agree that role of caregiver should be divided equally(or as equally as possible), but I do not think this matter to women too much in making decision about having children. In equal countries birth rates are plummeting - women are convinced by left …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:17 AM
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Yes they can - however, the role of the parent is in 2024 primarily rejected by women. Role of the parent is crucial role for all of us if we want society to survive(ofc for all of us that are healthy enough), but feminism/left promotes childlessness due to various excuses like climate change, or simply because it may block women from asserting dominant roles in society. Both childless women and men are freeloaders - work itself is not enough since all of us physically need younger people to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:02 AM
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Only situation when people can freely reject roles assigned to them is anarchy and anarchy is in direct contradiction with any form of organized society. Feminists want to have cake - that is live in organized society, but also want to eat cake - that is freely reject any role they do not like. It is possible only when someone bears the cost for them - for now it is enough migrants and men to do the dirty work, but at some point this will come to an end and feminist freeloading will come to an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:32 AM
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Feminists and progressives have some things right - but some things terribly wrong. Solve the birth rate problems and I'm with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:16 AM
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Interesting points about hyper-individualism and consumerism, but I'm actually not sure how to what extend they hold. Economically, the left is clearly very collectivist and advocates for individual sacrifice for the greater good. The woke left is also generally collectivist about social issues (especially the idea that social justice is the responsibility of every individual), except for the ones faced by "privileged groups". See also things like the environment/climate change. The left is coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:13 AM
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I agree that wokeism and leftism are religions - every ideology is sort of religion, though from purely matrialistic point of view religions have practical applications that produce good outcomes. Good outcome of feminism and wokeism is improved productivity. Many productive gay people have been murdered or forced to commit suicide(like Alan Turing) therefore we've lost great minds and good citizens, similar case with women - we've managed to progress using female work. However - both feminism a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:12 AM
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Guys who were unsuccesful in their youth usually get married to first girl that gave them a chance, it happens in their late 20s when some girls realize that they want a family and all attractive or at least a bit attractive guys are taken or out of reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:46 AM
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You are taking it too emotional and you need to grow a spine. If she is undecided then you just need to let it go, no second chances. At some point you will meet someone that is acting normal - you are just not attractive to these girls, so they are using you for validation.I was doing the same so t's not female only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:28 AM
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Not always. Quite often romantic partner and ie. children are just the only missing parts of life that is otherwise perfectly fine. That was my case - I've had guys to hang out with, but not even a single deep friendship since high school. I didn't feel like i need one. Quite a lot of women do not really have deep friendships either - I know women who do not really like other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:34 PM
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You are not the first one tempted by collective responsibility - nazis, communists and now feminists. Old song.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:27 PM
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Working class boys are quite often involved in some fights with other groups or in some petty crime, and they tend to keep friendships longer. Upper-middle class boys are rather competing with each other or at most playing some sports so they do not tend to have lasting friendships(yet they live much longer and happier lives).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:21 PM
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So what exactly is preventing men from trying to make new friends or deepening the friendships they already have? Nothing, men simply do not need friendships and impact of friendships on male quality of life is low. I know plenty of people - I go out with them sometimes, we talk about various things but if they would disappear one day this will change literally nothing in my life. I would simply hang out with someone else. If you see some movies about the war - you may notice that guys who were …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:16 PM
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Even in typical tech your social skill is crucial. I am pretty much average developer, there are dudes who are 2 leagues above me, but I am in lead developer position(above seniors) because I can get along with both managers and nerds. Nerds are often stuck because they do not know how to make people do what they need - or they even refuse talking to someone in person, and they cannot take a risk of making decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:02 PM
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Looks does not play a role - looks is 90% of your personality. Women express themselves via their appearance, and by items that they are buying, there are reasons why short forms of picture/video based communication are so popular among women. When internet was text based women didn't care about it - but once communicating via pictures became viable, they were all in for that. Women are very simple creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:54 AM
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Everything starts and ends with your appearance. If you look good then having an ice cream at the park will be adventure of her life that will be discussed with her friends for hours, if you are mediocre then your adventures will be classified as clowning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:50 AM
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We can sum up as being physically attractive. Rest is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:47 AM
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At some points of time - yes, but their status was far better than peasants who were basically a slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:24 AM
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In their times they were elite - in Tsarist Russia dying of starvation was something very normal, while child owning pair of leather shoes was something rather uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:18 AM
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And you think such person can make a good money ? I am afraid that you are describing someone who is either deeply autistic or simply of low intelligence, such things cannot be fixed and they do not allow for succeeding in life. Losers can be totally fine regarding personality - but due to circumstances or lack of will can be behind their peers in various areas of life. Such people really can benefit of harder work and some consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:13 AM
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Trotsky - born to wealthy jewish family Castro - born to wealthy farmers Guevara - born to upper class family
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:42 AM
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What does it mean to 'not be a loser' ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:38 AM
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Social status means very little in dating context. In female world status can be achieved only via success in fields that women consider 'sexy' - that is mainly entertainment related. Being noble prize winner will not make you sexy, unless it is about literature. It is important to have some baseline financial and educational level - but rest is about your height and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:36 AM
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How then they should achieve status ? Status is about how do you look like, about your cultural competency in some contexts and about your wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:32 AM
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All of them were born to wealthy families and then they were part of communist 'aristocracy'. Communism resembled rather absolute monarchy than democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:30 AM
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It's not about decency but about cutting the small cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:56 AM
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The argument is quite good. You are telling guys who failed using your ways - to use them more or that they were not using them properly. But it is not necessary the truth - some guys need to try different approach or need different kind of motivation or they need motivation from someone else because you lack credibility or you are simply annoying to them. You do not care about success of these guys - you care if they act in compliance with your ideology, you want to train them like dogs so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:01 AM
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Feminism is hostile towards men as biological sex - talking about ideology is only masking the real intentions. Average people do not think in abstract terms - if there is oppression, then there is oppressor and it has very tangible form. God is presented as a human being for a reason, feminist say "patriarchy" but they mean man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:49 AM
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I wouldn't say that there are any fundamental ideological differences - both movements want to reinforce patriarchy but with their gender on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:45 AM
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No. We literally just want equal opportunities and equitable healthcare rights. Nope - you want to take position of dominant men in politics/business and maintain privilege in social life. Some men might qualify as disposable temporary "partners" and rest of the men is supposed to exist only for doing work that you do not want to do and do not dare to complain. Cosy well-paid jobs are supposed to be female. This is how majority of men see feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:40 AM
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It's no longer advocacy group, reasonable feminism has already achieved it's goals - now it's hate group and should be called like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:33 AM
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I agree - but i'm not sure how much you can actually achieve, human beings tend to be independent. My parents tried hard to drive my socialization - i was excelling in school, so they came up to conclusion that i should hang out with nerds, but I didn't liked their company. They were ok - but i prefered to hang out with various hooligans, it was way more fun with them, we smoked cigarettes, tried beer, there were always some girls around. I've got into trouble many times - including being arrest…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:06 PM
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In the past probably men wanted a legacy or to just do what is expected, but in modern times men i know seem to enjoy having children and taking care of them. I like spending time with my son, i was waking up to feed him, i was changing his diapers and i've been making him bath since my wife was too afraid.when he was a newborn. Sometimes it's hard but i pretty much enjoy raising him - much more than work or hobbies, idk it's sort of fulfilling my emotional need of taking care of someone. He was…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:13 PM
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Voting far right benefits working class men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:18 PM
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Exposure therapy is the only one that seems to be having consistent effects, effectiveness of other forms is doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:14 PM
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Soviet Communists were great supporters of internationalism and were very vocal about American racism. It didn't stopped them from ethnicity based genocides. Feminism is very closely related with marxism and is showing the same hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:55 PM
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Nah - I simply understand that if you try to shit on people and tell them that you're helping they are not going to believe you. I am not giving feminists advice on how they should run their business - and feminists along with their allies should do the same, because it's futile and insincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:45 PM
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You cannot measure effectiveness of therapy because there is no 'unit' of depression - that is why therapies are a perfect scam. If you cannot measure effectiveness - then you rely on self-reports, and people will self-report that it's better, they've spent tons of money on it after all. Users of homeopathy are also reporting great improvement of health.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:32 PM
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There is no 'male loneliness epidemic' - there is general loneliness epidemic. And these people are not allies - they are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:26 PM
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It's not advocating - it's patronizing. Lefties trying to 'help' are completely untrustworthy, they are talking from privileged position and are on totally other side of political spectrum than folks who actually do have problems. Trust fund kids will not solve problems of shipyard workers while sipping soy latte,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:20 PM
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Allying with feminists is never an option because feminists hate men. Yes, all. I may disagree a bit regarding old school feminists that really were fighting for the right cause of providing women with ALL civil and political rights. Feminism in XXI century is pretty much aggressive internet trolling that is for some reason considered serious ideology and it is present at Univeristies and sometimes implemented in real life. Imagine 4chan being a source of actual political agenda - this is femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:12 PM
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We live in industrialized societies - what we do is mainly to improve our social standing and to be praised, envied or desired. Our biological needs can be satisfied with a fraction of what we usually make and our health can be maintained with very little exercise and pretty basic food. We have whole industries focused on producing goods that are aimed at building of our image.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:39 AM
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Not really. In clubs frequented by hot people - girls are more open towards casual sex, men are meeting their baseline criteria so they are cool with having fun with them. There are not much mediocre guys in there - yet everyone seem to get quite a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:14 AM
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In every country 80-90% of international marriages are immigrant woman+local man. Relatively local men have more to offer so they are chosen more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:12 AM
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I do not know such guys personally. I know plenty of losers who are in their 40s and hanging out with 18 yo. - but they are 'cool losers', they have tattoos, play in a band, do skateboarding, smoke weed, and usually are fit and moderately good looking for their age. The guys I know work on oil rigs in Norway(?) - so they work for some time and then they spend money and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:21 AM
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The problem starts when the boundary is unclear - like 70% of women think that being asked out by colleague is ok, but 30% think it's creepy and wrong. In my wife's office problem was solved by... Tinder. People there use it exclusively to date other employees - women feel safe because they know these guys, and guys know that they can make a move once matched. Weird but seems to be working fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:15 AM
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No worries - women do not want to have children so teaching and caring jobs will become obsolete and problem will solve itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:28 AM
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If you break obvious social rule - like touching the stranger then it's objectively creepy. But if you are taking risky bit still acceptable action like asking out someone at work - then it depends on attractiveess and other factors(is she single and dating?), it may end up as a harrasment or you may get married. In old millenial times we were partying and it was obvious that guys would hit on girls there, girls were actually coming because 'cool guys' were there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:51 AM
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Men use their social skills in a different way. Men are good at cooperating towards reaching some goal, while women are rather building their social position via friendships. It is visible at work - women try to build some alliances in order to keep position in company, it works as long as no hard skill is needed, men build teams based on merit only, they choose best guys to do the job, personality is less important. Male teams quite often have members that do not know anything about personal li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:37 PM
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Black pill was shut down because reddit owner is left-wing and manosphere spaces are dominated by right-wing. Before Musk bought Twitter it was about to be the same there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:40 PM
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Internet is full of ragebaits perpetrated by homegrown 'feminists' - like 'Bear vs Man', women are running huge communities full of unhinged anti-male stuff, even real life is starting to implement anti-male actions(like 'women only' STEM job fairs, or 'women only' job openings. Men are reading this and they are connecting the dots - that it's not about equal opportunities, but it's about bringing them down to make space for women or anyone who thinks is oppressed by men and about retaliation fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:30 PM
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Women do not inject 'reason' - don't be silly, women are greatest ambassadors of manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:52 PM
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Poverty is relative. If you equalize things by bringing down others it is actually better for you than letting them thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:16 PM
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Everyone is emotional, people by definition are driven by emotions and fulfilling emotional needs is perfectly reasonable. Every ideology is sort of religion, it caters to human emotions - be it liberalism or manosphere, some ideologists pretend being 'reasonable' - but it's pure bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:14 PM
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If our aim is to heat up emotions and bring in followers then this is very reasonable. Manosphere is not about convincing feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:06 PM
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Manosphere express directly, a well-known fact that in some areas male vs female interests are a zero sum game. Feminism recognized this much earlier therefore feminism presented hostile rhetoric towards men since decades - manosphere is pretty much reactionary towards feminism, therefore it must be considered as an enemy. Changing the tone would be counter effective - we should not appease those who are openly hostile towards us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:02 PM
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Why then India, CEE and China have better ratio m/f engineers than anglosphere ? Is sexism non-existent in there ? I would guess that sexism is not the main driver but rather lack of interest in science - women in US/UK have opportunities to make a living out of different jobs, which is not the case in India/China.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:43 AM
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If you are told the truth - you can improve. It is hard to improve things that do not matter even though everyone caims otherwise, like being a good person etc. I've realized at some point that my strengths are my body shape and ability to make a career - some guys understand that a bit later because they are not told that dating market is just a pretty harsh market, and they are not observant enough to understand this game. There is no person for everyone in there, it's just competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:09 PM
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Modern people are spoiled and want to have cake and eat it too. They want to be anonymous because they are afraid of being 'judged'( trendy buzzword) but on the other hand they complain that they cannot trust anyone and that they are lonely. They are afraid of loneliness, so probably having children and family would be nice - but they are terrified that they would have to put extra effort and they will have lifelong obligation that cannot be turned off like social media 'friend'. So they choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:18 PM
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He is like my cousin. Plain nutjob owning god knows how many weapons, he hates women for real, he threated his mother with an axe and he considers his sister a trash whore. He doesn't have problems getting laid - he is tall, dark, handsome and has this twisted sense of humor which seem to attract chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:56 AM
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In 200 years US will be mainly Amish, they will probably form different 'denominations' due to sheer size of their population, but they grow really quickly. As well as Mormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:58 AM
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I think that It's up to girls to decide how they want to run their sexual life. Men giving women lessons about 'purity' is as pathetic and perverted as feminists telling men 'to not rape'. And yeah - ofc that some men are assuming that boys will be pushy about sex, probably they were like that and now they think everyone is like that, but they are minority. I've seen maybe 3 guys who were pushy at our parties, and we've excluded them from our social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:52 AM
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Yes - we are all socialized towards proper behavior. I do not see why should we address some rules especially towards some gender, race or religion ? If you do such thing then it means that you consider one of these groups as being worse-off morally than other due to some biological features. This is called 'bigotry'. Besides - telling men not to rape has only one goal that is shaming men. If we really want to prevent sexual harassment - then you need to have system of support for victims(both m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:38 AM
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You assume that being criminal is a default behavior in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:32 AM
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"teach girl to not be cheap sluts" is it offensive or not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:31 AM
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Guys are quite often gaslit by other orbiters that this may lead to something and are deaf to any actual reason. I've told at least 10 guys in my life that they are pathetic and that's not gonna happen - and they were saying that I'm bitter and cynical. I've managed to convince namely 1 guy to stop doing this shit. I think guys should be more direct and less patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:29 AM
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I like big girls so no problem here - but I like pretty face, and this is non-negotiable. Dealbreaker I was used to certain lifestyle and I want to keep it and also i want my partner to be my intellectual peer. Hyper individualist = nutjob feminist, I do not like extremism. I can cook very well and expect the same. WOmen who are bragging about lack of basic life skills are silly and dumb. Dealbreaker - impulse buying and getting into debt is the same as gambling addiction. Go to therapy and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:21 AM
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Women do not care about other people. They care about their jobs in public sector, and want to identify with views of wealthy people which happen to be liberal. If being conservative would be the main view among celebrities - women would go conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:41 PM
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I've tried to do it twice, mainly because I wanted validation and sex - once I really started to like this girl as a friend so I didn't even touched her, even though she was clearly very interested, second time I've catched feelings and after two dates I didn't considered this girl ugly at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:55 PM
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I remember one talk with my mom when she heard about Prince Harry partying hard and running naked in Las Vegas. She said that this is how cool boys should behave while being young - she then referred to William as 'pussy with cut off balls, like his dad". My mom really despised 'nice guys', short guys, ugly guys and uneducated guys - to say that she was RedPilled is euphemism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:20 AM
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Status and money matter very little in dating - if you are not dirt poor then baseline expectation is met, you can achieve something with status being ie. celebrity, but this only makes you more visible - but even then handsome guys have upper hand. Girls were not coming to the football games for Teddy Sheringham, but for David Beckham.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:16 AM
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I think close to 0 - in old days people had TV full of good looking celebs, there were magazines and other things promoting certain lifestyle, fashion etc. I think what changed is that people have more money to take care of their appearance so the standards went up - and outliers may have it harder, but oth obesity is plague in developed world so it is the other side of the coin. What might have changed the dating market it's the social changes and sort of political divide between genders - but …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:13 AM
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I realized at some point that personality is far less important than looks for a man, because major problem is to spark attraction. Ofc later you need to keep up conversation, but women will help you if they like your looks. But in my case personality was also a big problem due to my fear of commitment - I think I considered girls that were into me 'too good' and too classy for me so i've escaped once things got close to serious. I was afraid to be involved emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:33 PM
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Role of female emotional support seems to be exaggerated - I think he is projecting his own experience to global populace, in one of the interviews he mentioned that if he wouldn't get married he would be smoking pot whole day - that is not really experience of every man out there. There are countries where significant proportion of both men and women live alone and these countries tend to be among happiest in the world. His takes about education gap are true, but we do not know the details abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:47 PM
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NT people do not play games - majority of mature people is quite straightforward about their plans for future, and such talks usually happen while dating. I was pretty open that I am interested in starting a family - so women that wanted to stay childless and not get married were not wasting their time with me. Messaging is not a game - if you have time, you respond, if you are at work it's obvious that you won't. Why would anyone deliberately prolong response ? It's childish. Everyone wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:57 AM
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I think that problem with this divide is that men do not have a choice which path to follow, while women do. Woman can be a leader while still maintain positive 'wonderful' traits, negative impact of feminity is pretty low if woman chooses leadership. Man presenting nurturing and soft traits while lacking traditionally male traits suffers big social penalty. I would even go further - nowadays strength in leadership might be considered intimidating if we have a man as potental leader, while the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:39 AM
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People in Europe are slim and fit yet everyone seems to struggle as well, actually US has much higher birth rates so being overweight doesn't seem to bother Americans that much. America might be having problems with skewed gender ratio due to immigration - US is primarily importing STEM people officially and illegal immigrants tend to be male as well, since it's easier for a man to find blue collar job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:07 AM
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Ok - this true crime obsession would be a great bonus, I love true crime. The second one is probably my wife. However all my gfs were in first two categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:26 PM
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Not every man enjoys casual sex nor any kind of fwb. I've tried both and it wasn't anything special - if sex is center of your life then maybe you may pursue it non-stop, but majority of men have other interests in life(including Chads). If my son will ever become Chad(it's likely since he is cute and very sociable, other kids adore him) - I will advice him to look for tomboy girl lol. Other type might not be able to match his energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:20 PM
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He got lots of things right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:46 PM
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Real sigma was Agafia Lykova. Other self-proclaimed rebels are just bored teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:29 PM
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Politics always plays a role - for men as well. Ie. I would not date religious chick nor left-wing feminist, since for me extremists always have smooth brains, though left-wingers are quite often LARPing intellectuals(which is hilarious for people with negative IQ).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:44 PM
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Women are not very fond of guys having female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:41 PM
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I find male-female friendships rather rare and i tbh usually social groups were single-gender and mixing only during some parties, but not hanging out on regular basis. My wife has only female friends, and her friends hang out with women as well. I am regularly talking to 2 girls and I am pretty much exception, majority of guys I know do not have such friendships. Yet no one seems to struggle romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:40 PM
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People are not born extremists - it takes a lot of time and effort to turn some kid into bitter incel. These guys quite often had shitty lives full of bullying and they are presented like spoiled brats who do not get hotties delivered to them on silver plate. Can you blame them that they were not strong enough to get over it ? Not everyone is born a hero. A friend of mine has a son on spectrum - he is very smart and nice kid, but he is already bullied even though he is 7 and comes home crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:37 AM
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Not all women are attracted to men(actually there is more lesbians than gay man) and less women than men are looking for partner, so probably this proportion is even more unfavorable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:17 AM
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If there is 200k women and 400k men then there is no women for everyone, no matter what lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:17 AM
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What if someone is not 'aiming' but simply was born below average ? Pure bad luck. Is it ok to be unhappy or not ? Can we give such person good advice and life lessons from privileged position ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:16 AM
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Your attitude reminds me my favorite Vonnegut quote: Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:12 AM
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It means that there is 400k more men than women in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:02 AM
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Yes - 8 mln and it means that there is 400k more young men than women in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:01 AM
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Not really - let's make a simple exercise for fun. Let's consider San Francisco, not Antarctica - we have in there M:F ration in age range 24-39 around 110:100(?), so this is giving us 10 single guys for sure(unless they are sharing). Assuming that we have 90% of women paired, we end up with 2 guys competing over 1 woman. And in SF the higher age, then we have even more unfavorable M:F ratio, so guys from the higher age bracket may join competition as well. Of course - configurations are differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:53 AM
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Majority of people do not have the chance to actually look for a partner within 4 billion people, realistically they are reduced to pool of single people close to their age in the region they are living in. If their region has surplus of men(which is very common) - then obviously there will be quite big pool of men for whom there will be no potential partner due to simple math. Some may try to move to region where ratio will be more favorable - but this is not always possible. It doesn't take se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:20 AM
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You suggest that there are no people who are undesirable to anyone ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:07 AM
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I do not have an issue with both, actually in my generation smoking was rather a female thing - especially among educated people. Many guys were into sports so smoking was not really for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:06 AM
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I think I've seen in some video that female hikkikomori in Japan are doing far worse than male - probably that is why women have much more motivation towards maintaining even superficial relations. Men are doing better in the short run, but once they are too deep into loner lifestyle it starts affecting them negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:00 AM
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I think that majority of people saying that it's no big deal would change their mind if they would be single against their will with little chance of changing this situation. It's like person who broke leg would say to permanently disabled person that 'wheelchair is no big deal'. Society severely lacks empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:27 AM
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Education system promotes academic excellence - but popular culture calls excelling men 'nerds' and also education system is not really suitable for boys who need more physical activities in order to be good academically. Education system favors sitting on your butt and it is good for girls, but boys usually need more attention, it is not because of flaws in their character or lacks of intelligence but because they are different than girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:19 AM
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For some reason though Asian-Americans are not obese, while other groups are. They are living in the same America.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:40 AM
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No one cares about the society - I think it is just instinct, we want to have better quality pool of potential candidates. When we shame people for stealing we are not thinking about society but about our wallet or car.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:34 AM
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Japan has similar beauty standards yet their birth rates seem to be similar to West, but they live much longer and in much better health than ie. Americans. For some people stick works much better than carrot - I've seen in my country how kids lost motivation in 1(!) generation. In my generation if you were 25 without a job, education and living with your parents you were a loser, even though unemployment stood at 20%. In order to get to mid-range University I've had to be better than 12 candida…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:32 AM
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Their behavior might not be nice , but overall shaming is quite effective in making society follow the rules. By shaming single mothers or fat people, or uneducated people we make some people upset, but overall society is better off. It is an instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:07 AM
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I would never leave this child - it is already a trauma that mother let this kid down. For me nothing would change - in this world full of selfish liars someone has to fix things, even if it is by just making 1 kid wanted and loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:56 AM
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Men were busy working - meanwhile leftists and feminists waged a culture war against them, values like hard-work, integrity, family are no longer valued. Leftist culture values consumption, laziness and glamour - in their world men are supposed to work hard for shitty pay and be blamed for everything, meanwhile women will get their money for nothing in cosy office jobs. If men created everything - then comfortable world for women is also work of men, isn't it ? Why then women hate men so much ? …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:01 PM
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Andrew Tate became popular because he is pretty much rejecting post-modernity - post-modernity is notoriously hard to navigate in, especially for young men who are expected to succeed in environment that is unknown and quite often extremely hostile towards them. He is giving simple recipes - rejecting everything that is not clear, even calling for destruction of everything that is unclear, introducing of simple rules and those who do not obey need to be forced to obey. This is appealing tbh. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:46 AM
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True - interesting and classy women are rarely single, even if they are not very pretty. Majority of permanently single women treated badly are usually just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:36 AM
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Well - women really are (spoiled) children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:25 PM
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It's always a trade-off. Like raising children - you can tell them that they are doing great even if it is not true, for some time it might build their confidence but sooner or later they will realize their failures. Pushing kids to learning and disciplining them regarding healthy habits, sports etc. might be harsh - but in the long run it pays off, not for everyone but for majority its good. People suffering from stroke aftermath while being 40 probably would prefer some shaming over weight ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:24 AM
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Female fatties have it much easier because there is plenty of men who are into it, while women are not really attracted to fat guys. I like fat girls - and all girls i've dated were rather disgusted by fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:59 AM
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Pumped and dumped is not interesting for women - but they still prefer to start chatting with hot guy over average dude, even if this will lead to either being ghosted or to nothing. Women are duluded by gambling as easily as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:25 AM
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I don't think people take very seriously troll content that they see online. I'd say that there is a variety of reasons why couples are formed later in life - young people are living with parents for longer periods of time, spend more time pursuing education, there is political and ideological divide between genders, both genders spend more time at home instead of socializing. In US important factor might be obesity epidemic that is killing sex drive and is causing various health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:01 AM
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What specifically is more challenging regarding raising of boys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:01 PM
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I think a boy. The problem with girls and women is that they are more neurotic and much more emotionally dependent on other people's validation than boys. A man/boy who is functioning well in society, is intelligent, has a job, looks more or less ok - have it pretty much easy to be happy or at least content. Girls are different - they may look like everything is great - but inside of their head there might be WW3 happening - boys are struggling against the world, but this is the battle that is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:54 PM
4

Fake it till you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:55 AM
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You make a silly assumption that majority of people struggling with opposite sex are somehow 'bad people'. They are not - majority of people can be easily categorized as 'good'. Being a good person has very little in common with success with women - the biggest problem for men is initial attraction - we are repeating it here all the time. In some cases you can achieve it by being interesting and potentially compatible person - but usually it is just your looks. Even g..damn novels written by wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:43 AM
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I guess it is sort of schadenfreude, these girls didn't wanted them so they were punished for chasing Chad. But in reality single moms are not always hotties and usually they are not chasing Chad - quite often it is just an effect of poor decisions made too early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:20 PM
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I do not think it's that simple. If you complain it means that some things are important to you - women join such spaces as PPD because they like to feel that they are causing so much emotions. Men are important for women as well - there are whole subs focused on complaining on men, if they didn't care how they declare - why bother to discuss ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:43 AM
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I was living for some time in a small village while being a kid and I knew plenty of girls from there and i didn't considered them as an option for me - I always wanted to be a professional, travel around the world, try new foods, go to the concerts, galleries, do sport etc. and I wanted partner who shares the same interests. I've had much easier time with 'Big City Girls' - with such girls it was just fun and easy to talk, there were plenty of topics to discuss, while village girls were mainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:35 AM
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Complaining is a cornerstone of democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:22 AM
1

Yeah - one girl was probably deep on autism spectrum, she was very good looking, but she was also a hermit barely speaking with anyone, her behaviors were strange like she was buying things for people to like her, she was considering sex like having a coffee, she didn't understood any kind of metaphor or jokes and she was obsessed with football(the right one, not this US rugby). Another girl was a rape victim, her father was an alcoholic and she was molested in childhood. She was extremely posse…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:23 AM
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Not autistic but I have ADHD so i need to do something when I am ie. running tests at work or waiting for project to build. It can be arguing online or some physical activity. I am cycling 20-30 km every evening, but weather is not always good so when i skip i have a hard time next day and I am arguing here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:42 AM
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Most men present some added value for women in long term relationships, so most men do have real standards regarding personality, income, looks etc, and so-called 'female hypergamy' is pretty rare irl. I believe that problem that many men are facing is that it is a bit harder to bring added value to women's life in 2024.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:45 PM
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It's a joke. He is just cute - all teenage guys in our family have this 'soft' look like Timothee Chalamet(not as handsome as he is, but this vibe), some girls are into it. Then we get bald at 24 and it's done lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:52 AM
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I think that almost all men desire strong, intelligent and independent women - but we do not feel good enough for them so we choose to pass sometimes, and more often we are not good enough for them so they reject us. It is very deeply engrained in both men and women - that man must be a bit 'better'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:41 AM
0

Recently my 15 yo nephew got a girlfriend. He invested 40 eur in broccoli haircut, 200 eur in fancy sneakers and he took her to the movies twice. Inflation of pussy seems crazy - being his age I've had only adidas superstar sneakers and ~8 eur haircut(and styling gel supply), and we've spent the time at the local park.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:36 AM
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Behind every 'strong and independent' woman there is a wealthy dad or husband. I hear it usually from girls having wealthy parents - money is not enough so they need to be admired for things that are out of their reach, make it on your own is one of such things. It's cringe af but they are rich - there will always be someone ready to provide validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:29 AM
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Geeky women are usually very far from the norm, not 'a bit weird' but they quite often have fully-fledged depression, episodes of self-harm, and are obsessed with their niche hobbies or they even believe for real in power of crystals etc.. No wonder they do not care that much about guys look. I'd say that problem with autistic girls will be bigger - in my son preschool ratio of aspie girls:aspie boys is 3:1 and these girls are doing quite hardcore self-harm being 5-6 yo. We have girls who do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:22 PM
2

Women have much higher college attendance rate. I do not know about US, but in Europe rural areas are full of young single men, precisely because of this. Women leave either for education or to seek for service jobs in bigger cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:02 PM
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They are closest once they reach adulthood, but women tend to move away if they are born in working class towns/districts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:30 PM
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This trend alone isn't new - but there is more factors making it harder today. Male and female lifestyles are drifting apart - women like different things, think about different things, different things are important to them. Add to it atrophy of social skills among both genders and here we are. In the long run - people are forming couples in the end being around 28-30, but many guys grow bitter because they didn't got too much action in their early 20s, and in many ways their 'adjustment' towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:29 AM
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Yes - but the gap is widening: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:57 AM
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It is not really like it was before. First of all - clubbing and party culture is decimated, people no longer frequent clubs. Bars are different than they used to be - people in the bars are gender-segregated, and quite often female groups prefer to hang out in gay bars to not risk even looking at straight men, let alone talking to them. Concerts - there is not many artists that appeal to everyone, artists are either female exclusive openly doing some anti-male rage baits like Taylor Swift, or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:47 AM
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Disagree. In the past women were less educated than men, had less money, also the pool of eligible candidates was limited to local market. Women were not climbing social ladder that fast as it is today. Women have been making their decisions at younger age - nowadays they have much more time to do 'market research', they are picky, and also the standards regarding appearance and lifestyle went up. In the 80s-90s - things like jogging, tennis, travel, fashion or gym were rather a thing for upper-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:30 AM
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Even if they divorced they still had children. Zoomers have dogs and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:18 PM
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I think that negativity is correlated with age. It is rather hard for a guy in his early 20s to succeed with women his age, they are desired by older guys, and many of them is just focusing on learning or work. Guys in their early 20s are also quite often too childish - so even though they are overall good guys, they may not yet be good enough with controlling their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:38 PM
1

So you suggest more than half young women are bad news ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:25 AM
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I think that we are comparing apples to oranges. Red Pill by definition is not interested in broader societal issues - it is more or less looking for an instruction on how to get laid, ie. it's criticism of feminism or wokeism is limited to it's impact on redpillers ability to get laid, but it is missing the destructive impact of this ideologies on society. Blue Pill is broader - this is group of people spreading political agenda of gaslighting men into conforming to wokism and leftism in order …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:27 AM
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Actual number of babies is irrelevant, it's obvious that bigger country will be having more babies and baby booms contribute for some time to overall population growth even if cohort born during boom has low birth rates, but persistent low birth rates lead to depopulation, because "Everything dies". Lets make simple calculation: 1000 women give birth to 3000 babies-> we have 1500 new women-> but these women give birth to only 1500 babies(TFR=1) so we end up with 750 women->375 women->188->94. As…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:43 AM
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Your first example has very obvious flaw. I can clarify it for you - people contrary to your unspent dollars actually die and get old, therefore they become non-productive. In order for your example to be valid - Imagine that you are making 100$ every week, but you are spending 80, at one week you make 1000$, but at some point you start making only 50$, you still have this 1000$, so it is making up for it, but this reserve will be depleted at some point. After some time you end up spending 100$ …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:58 AM
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Regarding rest of your comment. In egalitarian countries where men do their job at home, women prioritize fun at even faster rates than elsewhere - look at Finland.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:47 AM
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Our population needs 2.1 tfr to stabilize, not a single western country is at this level. Some temporary stabilize at 1.4-1.6 but more and more countries go towards 1.0. It is far from stabilizing. It was always fixed by immigration but birth rates in poor countries are low, and some countries got rich enough to need immigrants themselves. Men participate far less in consumption than women, women are 80% of solo travelers. Men travel with their women usually. Music industry is now almost exclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:43 AM
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LatAm has quickly declining birth rates and older generation of grandmas valued children above all so they were willing to center family lives around them, young women do not care about it. I'd love to see the revival of such arrangements that were common in Europe as well, but that's not gonna happen - feminists will quickly say that grandmas are slaves and should look for 'personal happinness'. And my claim about women prizing consumption more is totally valid - most of the lifestyle content i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:44 AM
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Women were not really forced 'against their will' - marriage was pretty much a status symbol, girls were quite often saving money to be considered a good candidate. If something is prestigious due to culture - it is not really forcing. Western culture pedestalized consumption over family at some point, and here we go. Even in hollywood - 80s shows were usually happening in family setting, nowadays this genre of family movies is dead - everything is about single people in fucked up relations. Bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:26 AM
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Communal raising have been tried multiple times and failed. I think Singapore has very developed system of childcare, their birth rate is low and falling. I'd like to see the world where women are thriving and are able to give birth, but women will always choose career and fun over family. Men seem to value consumption less and are willing to sacrifice their careers if needed, women were socialized to prioritize pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:36 AM
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There doesn't seem to be other way forward. Feminists promised that if only men will put more effort into raising children - everything will be fine. Sweden and Finland say "hi! - not gonna happen". Only developed country with decent birth rates was US, because it is full of immigrants and still is very conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:27 AM
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Society will exist - religious groups are doing fine, western societies are dead end, we cannot have women working equally as men do and having children. Birth rates will plummet to 0.2 and that's all, it will be over in 100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:55 PM
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I can tell you as an engineer, why there is far less female than male engineers. Not because men are smarter, women are as capable as men are - it is because men are incredibly persistent, engineering is hard, you are inventing something new and problems arise exponentially, quite often you need to scrap months of work and start all over. Women at some point do not care about this crap - they just work to pay the bills and travel to exotic coutries, but men see unsolved problems as personal fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:43 PM
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It is true - women enjoy post-modernistic moral ambiguity since they cannot follow any moral code in the long run. They prefer to play according to own rules in order to always win, like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:49 AM
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I am not cheating nor doing monkey branching. Women do not have honor nor morality since they are merely grown children, but once man loses value of his words, he is no longer a man - he has a status of woman or child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:57 AM
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Ah ok. In here it is owning a BMW.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:42 AM
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What is wrong with Oakleys apart from being hideous and outdated ? Is it sort of a symbol in US ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:35 AM
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Very good summary. Nowadays resources like money are no longer building female status, actually dating for money is lowering it, so the most important male traits are appearance and if possible status, but it has to be 'real status' valid in female world, like celebrity/influencer. Status of a guy who cures cancer is equal to status of burger flipper in female world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:17 AM
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All these 'nomands' are known for stealing and ofc plenty of them try scamming guys into prividing them with free food/accomodation/even drugs. I knew a dude owning a hostel in Krakow and plenty of women were offering sex for free room or free drugs. Good that it's getting pricy so we have less of this kind of people here, but man - if you've ever met a girl that was travelling like that... She is not for ltr definitely lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:30 AM
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Gaslighting at it's finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:12 AM
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Here we go. There should be daily female gaslighting thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:58 PM
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You are talking about less than perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:54 PM
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If you are a man then you need to be realistic regarding looks, but never settle regarding personality . My dream woman was always a a very smart, very tall bbw with pretty face - my wife is extremely smart(she has photographic memory) chubby, has beautiful face(when i saw her first time i thought that she i cute like a doll) but isn't very tall. I do not feel like settling tbh, I am happy. Women do not have such flexibility - so they need to settle regarding personality, because it's very hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:53 PM
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The more progressive society the more man hating. We need to reverse the changes and not ask for more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:43 PM
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Literally my wifes coworker. She cannot stand that her sister is fat and her husband bought her a new BMW lol, while her husband is not buying her anything even though she is slim and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:48 PM
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Then you need to make peace with your world non-existence in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:21 PM
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If i'd want her to stay then yes, but it would not be the case. Regarding daughter - it's better option than to not have grandchildren at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:59 PM
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I personally do not have to, but in general i think it is a good thing. We have new taxpayers, men are calm, they have time to think about improving the world. Liberal world is only consumption, no new taxpayers, stagnation and focusing on new perversions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:45 PM
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Isn't it ironic that either women have to be forced to have sex or societies stop developing ? Nature seems to really endorse violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:36 PM
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You react lol. The more people react the more guys we attract. Keep up the good work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:33 PM
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I do not have a reason to believe you, but appreciate making manosphere stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:24 PM
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Nietzsche was sort of misogynistic - his mother was forcing him to drink hot water and take cold showers as a remedy for all illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:18 PM
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What if majority of men will get frustrated and start killing or turn west into dictatorship ? Or if tfr will be 0 and all who will be left would just orthodox christians and jews ? Short term benefit of one generation paid by suffering of next generations of women. Unlimited freedom has the nasty feature that someone has to pay for it. It's never free.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:00 PM
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Its good for some people, bad for other. It's a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:49 AM
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Its not a matter of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:46 AM
1

Yeah - for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:42 AM
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It would be a good thing for women for sure and for Chads. Rest of the guys will spend their time with hookers. Sex work will go big.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:41 AM
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Prince larpers weren't getting the same success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:39 AM
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Wait for gen alpha - first generation where women will gain full material Independence. Stats of marriage, birth for gen-z are bleak, and alpha will be even worse. If they will reach 20% it will be max, only Chads left in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:35 AM
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I'm not saying to 'give up'. I'm saying that guys need to have the right mindset to survive and that some things are just not very likely for them. We may accept that we will not play NBA, not become astronauts and we can as well accept that our relationships will be most likely transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:23 AM
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Men value female body but not female personality, women do not care about men's personality and value bodies of small percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:19 AM
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I'm not dictating anything, just showing younger lads what life will have for them so they will be prepared. Manosphere is gaining popularity so our work is appreciated as it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:10 AM
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It is a bad deal that is why we have less relationships nowadays, since women do not need money from men and they bring value as s human being only in case if being close to the top. Numbers are here - there is less average dudes in relationships while Chads are having best times since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:05 AM
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Cope. Im joking - your argument with Prince is as valid as with Andrew Tate. Prince was a celebrity so he got away even with being junk and rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:57 AM
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Not better because 'relationship', even transactional one is uplifting male social status and gives access to safer sex. Visiting hookers is lowering your status and bringing contempt and it's not safe. Your partner might be top 20% or you are an exevption. Baseline behavior is salivating for Chad, settle for beta buxxer and divorce or dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:56 AM
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Manosphere is also super hot on men. Look at Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:47 AM
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Yeah but this is possible only for 20% of men. Rest need to either live alone or accept beta bux without deluding themsleves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:46 AM
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Monetary transaction is the basis of majority of romantic relations since women are genuinely attracted to at most 20% of men. Men need to realize this and treat their wives/long term partners without any emotional investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:43 AM
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Women even marry such men. Then they become resentful and initiate divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:41 AM
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Ofc. That is I will always be there for my son no matter what. And dads leaving their kids are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:17 AM
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Reason being mothers lying to them about life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:57 AM
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I'm talking about both. Love of unattractive man has value of trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:55 AM
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Love is reserved for attractive men only - rest are just paying for getting pussy sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:38 AM
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True - but female body can sometimes be bought. It is crucial to remember though that you are not dealing with human being that is in love with you, but with merchandise that you are paying for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:23 AM
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Nothing - that is why women prefer to either be single or to be softcore prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:17 AM
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Nope i am not young boy. I am here to protect these dudes from toxic bullshit women are spawning here. Guys raised by single moms are failures for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:10 AM
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You mean "most girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:04 AM
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Women are more visual - since women are way more selective visually, then they tend to make up personality of their partner if necessary. It's reasonable - visual attraction is so rare that they cannot afford to just dismiss it because of some personality flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:19 AM
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If they will be like the ones in the Westworld - that is totally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:06 AM
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It's good how it is because its benefitting you personally, but in order fir us to survive you should be shamed for not having children and you should be left only with the means to buy yourself basic food and clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:00 AM
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Ofc you don't. It's reddit where women gaslight young boys and then watch how they struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:39 AM
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Reddit moment. This place is full of weird women gaslighting these poor fools into wildest shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:33 AM
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Its a cultural meme on twoxchromosomes, in real life i like to make experiments and i ask women around me about different things. They talk non-stop about themselves, so far they ask me about something maybe once in a month lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:05 AM
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It works for everyone. We are in xxi century - if guy needs to play some 'masculine' or 'dominant' or any other role then he is most likely playing the role of clown. If you're a guy - everything is decided in first 30 seconds, for women the hardest part is to find visually appealing guy, if this is passed - rest is almost irrelevant. Guy can be whatever he wants. Women have it different - men will most likely like your looks, but ltr let alone marriage is different story. For men it's hard to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:54 AM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:34 AM
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I was always paying, but if there was no proposal to go 50/50 on a first date, it was obvious that she is not a future wife. I was never wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:20 AM
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Sometimes obvious things need to be said to actually motivate people for change. Men will tell them. Women will skip obvious things and go to listing their niche quirks, because they want to talk about themselves, women love talking about themselves. Like you a moment ago lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:11 PM
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Men will yell you: - dude - you're fat, your job sucks, your clothes are outdated, your haircut does not fit you, you never left your shithole town, you're boring, you live with your parents and you stink. Women will tell you that you should start rescuing cats, or use eyeliner, or have long hair or become a femboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:44 PM
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TRP is imo closer to Nietzsche than to stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:32 PM
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Please don't rely on any female advice regarding presenting yourself. Recently my wife trusted her friend who is recruiting people, and wrote her resume according to the advice. She failed miserably. When I wrote her resume she got 5 interviews in a week and landed great job. Women will tell you what they personally might like and not what suits you best. We have plenty of reddit weird women claiming that men with long hair look amazing(it's the biggest shot in the foot you can do to yourself). …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:08 PM
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Woman will tell you what kind of men she'd wish to be attracted to, not kind of men that she is actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:59 PM
2

Cats ate walking through life silently not begging for anything. Cats are based - that is why men like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:48 PM
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Cats are fantastic animals and make great companions but let's be serious, this does not translate into being relationship material with 'modern women'. I love cats but I stay away from 'modern women' as far as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:42 PM
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It's no coincidence that average men are not really looking for their future wives in hardcore volunteering groups. But you like cats so sin of feminism can be forgiven.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:34 PM
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I like cats very much - but I like women that are deep into helping animals much less. They are usually crazy left wing feminists - the type that should be rather eliminated from the genepool if we want humanity to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:28 PM
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I do not think average guy would like to be in relationship with such women. My cousin is helping children from abusive families, she is into guys who are 'normal' - well put together, having good jobs and plans for future. But such guys do not want to be with her long term - they want a woman that will give them kids, bring some money, go on vacation with them and sit in the garden with them sipping coffee. It's not possible with person who is dealing with raped 8 yo or 12 yo. drug addicts on d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:12 PM
6

Bi women play by different rules. If average butch lesbian would have to be actual man, then she would end up incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:03 PM
1

Now it's more Indian-Ukrainian and getting crazy expensive. I recently took my wife from university and young guys were coming for their gfs in new Mercedes/BMW/Porsche. Height+money bar is getting higher for young dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:34 PM
2

I know a millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:37 AM
1

Red Pill is about describing reality, understanding weight of specific factors in dating, not lying to yourself about your limitations, taking actions where possible, calling out hypocrisy and gaslighting. Not everything is a matter of individual action, actually we can do very little and sometimes we need to try to change society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:26 AM
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I didn't know individualism is possible only when everyone is wearing jeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:59 PM
1

If something is good deal at expense of others, like childlessness then we need need to make it poor deal to change things. Iran is just another globalized country, they are not living in a caves - there is feminism, consumptionism and individualism in there. People there know how to read lol - even though people in west find it hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:25 PM
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Marriages fail usually because people marry too early, in some countries it's domestic violence and alcohol, quite often it's different vision of partnership. In general divorce rate is falling - people marry later in life, crazy feminists are choosing the bear(poor animal - does not deserve such a cruel fate of being in the same forest with feminists), and people are better educated and independent so it's easier for them to set boundaries and communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:00 PM
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Birth rates are only slightly up for women >30, 20-29 has huge decline. It would not be a big issue if 30-45 cohort would make up for losses, but its not happening. Probably only solution would be to raise taxes and give big tax breaks for people having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:18 PM
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I do not deny facts. I am just arguing about the reason of this situation. Imo it's feminism and social media - you haven't presented any counterargument for me to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:00 PM
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I don't know - we are not talking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:59 PM
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He would be famous - if we count being famous as personality then yeah, but i think that he would just get a chance of being noticed. He was pretty much hermit hanging out with some tiny group of nerds. EDIT: he was not that handsome actually. I guess Breivik is better example - he was doing well with women even though he was literally second Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:57 PM
1

This situation is different because we do not have any major crisis. 70s were peak oil crisis and persistent inflation. Currently we do not have such issues - Covid-19 crisis is over, we've had great economic growth, low unemployment yet TFR is falling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:47 PM
1

Yep - feminism is taking it's toll everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:45 PM
4

They are too ugly. Otherwise being murderers would be 'intersting quirk'. ISIS managed to bring quite a lot of young women from western countries to join them - all they needed was a carrot in a form of good looking boys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:38 PM
1

Saudia Arabia still has TFR above replacement, and internet brainrot is easily available in UAE or Quatar via VPN.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:34 PM
1

Probably being treated better would be nicer - but i do not think if this actually matters that much. They can totally accept it as long as they don't have to share too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:17 PM
7

We should show this to all women claiming that personality is more important and giving Elliott Rodgers as an example. I'm pretty sure that if this dude would not kill himself - he would be getting hundreds of love letters like Breivik.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:15 PM
2

When woman is giving you hints with subtlety of Armored Personnel Carrier=flirting Otherwise=you are just talking and flirting is just your imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:38 PM
17

They are perfectly aware that not all men are like this, only the demoralized ones - but for some reason it's hard for them to admit that they simply like being treated like shit by hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:22 PM
7

Yeah - the immigrants are not that level, but local girls are top. We've been in a few bars where majority were locals and it was crazy, though it's visible that pumping lips and boobjobs are getting popular. In Krakow and Warsaw you will most likely see mainly Ukrainian girls on the streets - locals unfortunately start having similar lifestyle like western Europe - fast food+netflix at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:10 AM
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I live in Krakow and I can tell that there is one place that is beating Warsaw/Krakow/Moscow. It's Stockholm - it's just insane how hot are Swedish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:04 AM
2

In our culture male body is either a tool or something that needs to be killed or mutilated if it belong to an enemy, we cannot be too much in touch with our bodies and to have too much respect for male body because it would make us inneffective. All human cultures praise violence against men and to some extend against women too, though female body is too valuable to be just disposed - therefore human cultures tend to rather protect but also enslave women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:50 AM
1

If guy can be classified as being even barely more attractive than average slim woman - then he most likely has options and it's unlikely that he will settle for LTR with average girl. For men it's 'winner takes it all' - either lot/enough of options or close to zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:58 AM
7

Average young men are usually single but looking for partner while being in their early 20s, the acceptable guys are settled for in late 20s early 30s if their partners want children, but since less women want kids nowadays, more men stay single long-term. Having a husband is no longer a good business deal for women, and because of that there is growing percentage of men that do not pass the appearance bar and stay single. Ugly people come from ugly mothers and old times when women forced themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:28 AM
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Guy 4 was out of her league, she is average - with crooked teeth and thin hair - cute but nothing special. These guys were too old for her that is a fact, but if they were her age and childless they were totally her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:19 AM
6

If guy is not attractive then most likely he is an incel or john.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:11 AM
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No one is shaming women for 'daring to posses sexual attraction' - we are shaming for shittalking about 'bar being on the floor' that is suggesting that men en masse have shitty personalities and that itself is the major reason for their lack of dating success. It's bs and gaslighting - guys fail because they are ugly - period. If you look good you can be a necrophile and still succeed with little effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:06 AM
1

Women do approach men - they need to know a bit about them, like that it's their friend's friend or they've heard the guy talking about smth but women definitely approach. If you look very good they even cold approach. The chance of rejection is so low that no woman even bother to think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:59 AM
0

I am rather thinking about having a few of them in life. Like there is a guy that is around for few months to check if he may have a chance. But younger women tend to have 2-3 open options if they are single, obviously most attractive have dozens of good options afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:10 PM
3

My wife has two shy, nerdy, loser friends and they are into shy, nerdy loser guys. Problem is that shy, nerdy guys are not making a move, so it may take many years before they match somehow. Once they match all they need is love and two desks to play WoW(we're xennials).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:13 PM
1

Let's wait till 2035 - it's 20 years since social media went big. I bet that majority of western countries will end up below 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:39 PM
3

Simp that will fix your car for free or sometimes give you a ride, or buy you some small furniture stuff is not the same as regular husband. She's been indeed using men all her life, but having husband (even regular educated middle class dude) would make it much easier for her than it was while being single mother supported by simps. More interesting for me is that these guys were really able to fall for such person who is calculated, boring and tbf quite stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:32 PM
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Long term orbiters are probably a rare thing - but almost every woman had at least a few guys hanging around hoping to get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:42 PM
2

I used to know one woman who had active orbiters, She was conventionally attractive - used to be a model, then had some quite good jobs via orbiters recommendation. Tbh I have no idea why these guys were crazy about her since she was the most boring and annoying person I've ever met, but to each their own. She never took orbiters seriously - they were only good for certain services(not sex - purely material things and helping with different stuff). She was looking for a really wealthy guy - but …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:34 PM
1

It went from insane levels in the 60s, due to BC but it was more or less stable after reaching 1.8-2.0, now it goes down pretty quick. Sweden went from 1.85 in 2015 to 1.45 in 2023. Birth Control reduced fertility to more or less sustainable levels, but social media propaganda and recent pop-feminism pushed it to critically low levels. BC was a blessing, saving us from quick overpopulation - but feminism is pushing us to extinction or towards ultra-conservatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:07 PM
2

That is all true - but for some reason dog moms are the thing of the last 10 years - in my youth you could hardly find girls in their 20s obsessed with dogs, either they were starting families or had decent careers. Nowadays we have plenty of girls who are plain nutjobs regarding animals - the same shit like those anime weirdos and their 'waifus'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:20 AM
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Very good summary. Those who say that 'leagues do not exist' should read this. Leagues do exist and every guy who managed to date at least 10 women can tell you that they do exist - dating out of your league is like dating the stone, dating in your league is like formality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:16 AM
5

Women are not loved unconditionally - though probably women are more valued for their physical/psychological features they are born with rather than by their actions or by things that can be achieved via individual development. Really ugly women, and women who are poor companions do not get much love in life - but we need to take into account that most likely 70-80% of young women are desired as partners without putting much effort beyond normal functioning as adults, while probably 10% of men m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:10 AM
7

Tbh I got all my jobs through networking. I am involved in embedded systems community and in local cycling group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:18 AM
1

I am sure it is contributing - big part also is on social media where we have lot of body shaming of imperfect female bodies and silly promise of keeping youth up to 50. We should finally show young women and that loose skin, stretch marks are normal things. With this fearmongering and shaming women are reluctant to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:01 AM
2

Nope. Birth rates were quite stable with periods of being above 2 in US. Plummeting of birth rates is pretty much correlated with introduction of social media, tiktok in particular. I can agree that rent prices and 2008 crisis were important factors for millenials, but currently it seems more like work of antinatalist influencers. Having kids is passe - young women want to live up to feminist ideal of urban career woman(even though such women actually are more likely to be married and have more …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:46 AM
1

Tbh every physical challenge is in favor of men. Top 10 female tennis players are on level of 14 yo. random pro boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:06 PM
3

Actually surveys show that young men are more willing to have children than young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:21 PM
6

Birth control is with us since 70s and was with us through 80s and 90s and was always cheap in western countries. Low birth rates are mainly cultural issue and effect of aggressive woke+feminist propaganda enabled by social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:06 PM
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There is no single definition of feminism anymore, since it is no longer confined to academic circles. There is probably dozens of feminisms which are contradictory to each other - most popular pop-feminism seems to be pure misandry. In general i think feminism is not sustainable ideology since it is focusing too much on turning women into men and then taking their place in patriarchal society. Modern feminism is good old patriarchy but with women in charge, obviously there is small single aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:48 PM
1

Are we talking about the same IQ tests which are about pattern finding ? Life experience does not help to score higher, but certain activities are helping to improve the score.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:56 AM
1

I've noticed something weird about GenZ girls. They seem to be interested in older guys more often than it was the case like 15 years ago while ignoring guys their age. Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:53 AM
1

Both men and women would like to be hypergamous appearance wise, but this is more or less fantasy and wishful thinking. In practice - hypergamy is effectively executed only by women, men pretty much get what is given to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:22 AM
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Women are not spawn of satan, but you have some power in romantic relations. As we know power corrupts and women are very often corrupted by this power, there is some virtue signalling that you get only attention from shitty men that want sex only, but various experiments disprove this claim. There is plenty of attention from just normal dudes - not some perverted uggos. And some women come to the conclusion that it might be a good idea to monetize this power somehow - either by attention seekin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:39 AM
0

Disprove hypergamy then. My argument is stats for immigrant marriages. Usually 80% of marriages between local-immigrant is where woman is immigrant(therefore lower status).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:35 AM
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Really tiny girl - she was probably 150cm and skinny and had tiny hands and feet, I've felt very uncomfortable - I think I have some sort of a phobia, I really do not like to even stand stand close to tiny adult women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:27 AM
1

You are showing most extreme views that imo are rather incel or qualify for mental health diagnosis than RP. We are living in a society that is making comparisons, like it or not, you will be compared to other people - young men do not fully realize it, girls are taught from early age that they need to follow fashion trends etc. to look good, or at least be like other people, boys do not fully get it, they focus on doing what they really like, usually it is not very productive. RP dudes imo are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:23 AM
4

I think that allowing to be treated like shit and simping won't bring them closer to happiness either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:20 PM
1

Granted, I'm biased because I believe hookup culture is a net negative for society and the majority of men and women who engage in it. Not in a moral sense...there's nothing unethical about having a ton of sex partners. But I think it's mentally unhealthy in the long run. I wish more men would consider their sexuality in a dignified way, rather than something to be casually tossed out to every woman who glances at him. I agree - in the long run majority of people will end up disappointed or hurt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:15 PM
3

Overall yes - but there is a group of women taking advantage of male lack of self-respect and male lack of boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:42 PM
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These t-SME graph does not say if the difference is huge, it only says that differences allow for distinction between male and female brains taking into account these multidimensional data from resting activities, but we do not know if there is any functional significance of these differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:40 PM
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Nowadays everything apart from mindless and enthusiastic approval of being fucked over seems to be called 'insecurity'. People who seem to develop boundaries and stand their ground are always considered troublemakers by the ones benefitting from status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:37 PM
2

Who would've thought that on this sub only age-gap relationship of older women will be praised ? We even have female sex tourists praised here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:09 PM
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I have most contacts on linkedin lol - above 300. I participate mainly in parenting, gardening and cycling groups on fb. I regularly chat with 8 people. Unfortunately only 3 men, for some reason guys are flaky and tend to be too busy to keep contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:52 AM
3

My views are blackpill/redpill - overall this lead me to having family, house and good career. I was 'mentored' by women in my life to act in more calculated way and they've taught me how to monetize my potential and 'hack' life. My parents were good people but they've had no idea how the world is working - they've got everything via super hard work, and honest hard working people are not respected nor desired - people pay them lip service but consider them naive. I told myself that I won't work…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:50 AM
-1

Manosphere is a good place for promoting revival of more traditional society. Many rp guys seem to resent modernity for good reasons, modern society is anti-male. Women here are mainly left-wing feminists and they do not like rp so they use insults to undermine it. 'Oh you must be ugly and something is wrong with you'. Not really - rp guys are not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:07 PM
6

Unless he is a Short King.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:02 PM
3

Being possessive - like making scenes that i do not reply messages instantly, I was at work and she was bored at home - it's obvious that I can reply in 1h. Expecting impossible things and being mad that they do not happen. Like being pissed that I was stuck in traffic and late, even though i called and let her know about it. Expecting mind reading - I will not be guessing what you like, if you tell me i will remember but i do not play games for teenagers. Being convinced about knowing it all. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:57 PM
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I've seen these sugar mamas in Egypt and Tunisia. The thing is - these boys are quite often teenagers, I wouldn't be surprised if they are underage and the whole thing does not look like in the romance novel. Usually it is ugly woman in her 50s, they are drunk since early morning, they quite often stink, and they are simply harassing teenage boys that hang around on the beaches, or even at the restaurants. They just offer them money and get sex for that. It is pretty pathetic and pitiful. These …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:31 PM
5

It's not that simple. Women will praise gay friend for using eyeliner - but I've heard plenty of times from women that 'guy cannot spend more time in the bathroom than me' or even straight sneering at guys who go to spa or do some beauty stuff. It's good to be in shape and have stylish clothes - but being too flamboyant is an 'ick'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:18 AM
2

I think women do not really put this effort for all men, I was dating girls that you can describe as butch lesbians, and they were getting a lot of attention from guys they wanted. They were not into glam type gymbros, but rather into nerds/light nerds(PhD dudes etc.) - they knew their target group and had zero problems getting dates. Women who spend hours in the gym and invest heavily in their appearance want guys who do the same. I was living with women - and tbh they were not spending long ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:01 AM
7

As someone mentioned here - men over 30 are developing boundaries and men over 40 are no longer as horny as guys in their early 20s. Nice body and pretty face are no longer enough for serious ltr for bit older guys, and very young guys are in different point of life. So if you are a 38 yo. woman and you are still mentally 21 - you might have harder time to get quality partner(weirdos and fuckboys are always there, but they are not an option).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:48 PM
-1

I know few guys who became priests. They are closer to red pill, they do have women or visit sex workers, but no strings attached. Other category are gay guys and sort of blackpill dudes, i know specifically one guy who become priest after numerous romantic failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:24 PM
5

They do - catholic priests are such group, as well as various convents. I may argue that more men than women live in such arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:05 PM
2

My bio was a list of things that I like or I want to do, like my favorite artists, music(rock and metal), that I want to visit Musee d'Orsay, and other silly shit like this Quite a lot of girls have been referring to this list like that they've already been in this place, or if I know about some concert(I've went to Meshuggah concert with one girl lol) etc. I don't think if bio means a lot, but we are looking for just one person, and sometimes it might help to have something in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:52 AM
1

Anything below average in looks department (height, face, hair) makes it much harder for men and we have quite a lot of people below and strongly below average, not to mention guys with disabilities. We are living in times where looks matters the most - I know cool guys who are either ugly or very short, some of them succeeded around 30 but plenty of them is still single, being almost 40. And they've succeeded with softcore gold diggers - girls from poor neighborhoods who can now drive bmw and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:28 AM
1

Violence among teenagers is actually dropping quite fast in majority of countries. Being openly gay in the early 90s might end up in being beaten or killed outside of biggest US/EU cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:39 PM
4

Chat and irc were also public, yet no one called them social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:07 PM
0

Is phone a social media too ? Or sms channel ? Or usenet ? Or public chat ? We are not using our real names nor actual images here. It's just forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:07 PM
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Reddit is not social media. It's internet forum on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:12 PM
3

I remember internet from times when irc and bbs were the thing, Java and Linux were novelties and there was no C++ standard(there were just implementations like Borland). It was not really male space - it was more academic/student oriented so there were usually people doing their PhD, I've met quite a lot of women from US while being a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:38 PM
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Tbh - I think that adult women have more serious things to think about than analyzing some crazy woke influencers or dreaming about celebrity life. People who actually live their lives are aware that money is hard to come by and usually their views are getting more balanced. However - social media have bad influence on teenage girls, they are not really self-confident and may be more prone to comparing themselves to celebrities. It is visible in rise of suicidal thoughts, usage of aesthetic medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:00 PM
3

I think that not only women would like such model but men as well - majority of people are doing work that is hard and not satisfying, so if there would be possibility to be financially secure in case of divorce and not being forced to work, plenty of people would gladly go this way or they'd took some nice but poorly paid part-time job to have contact with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:50 AM
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Tbh balkan/slavic traditionalism is sort of a 'show' - guy plays the role of macho, woman pretends that he is the leader but in reality plenty of women there are running their own businesses/careers and are pretty bossy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:29 AM
1

I would immediately advise him to leave this woman. He is almost a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:32 AM
1

Actually I remember ridiculing guys hanging out with fat girls or allowing their girls too much freedom. I remember one dude who simply packed his gf stuff and thrown her on street once he learned that she met other guy in secret. There was no sex involved - just meeting at the cafe, I think modern guys are too easy gaslighted to be too tolerant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:25 AM
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If source of your problems is making the bad choices - then sure, you are the one to blame, but men who are complaining are usually just ugly. There is no cure for being short and ugly, people do not grow due to self-reflection and socializing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:22 AM
1

Men need great ideas - something worth fighting for, feminism is just a fashion that is popular from time to time, old song played once again. Modern times lack the ideas - it is focus on consumption and rat race, it may be appealing to women but men are apathetic towards it. Women feel good about this decadency - but men need more action. I see hope in restoration of conservatism - cleaning the world of perversions, ambiguity, double thinking. We need to come back to simple values - and punish …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:26 PM
2

Your observations are very consistent with mine. I've had a period of being good looking and meeting girls was like 0 effort, not some dumbass girls but just cool, normal, good looking ones. I was being actually approached and it was nothing hard. When I was ill and looked terrible for some time - it was like total 0, when I started looking better it was again quite good. My personality aka social skills did not changed a bit, that is why I am asking this question. I think that personality is ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:28 PM
1

Good for you darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:54 PM
-1

Thank you good female.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:51 PM
0

This kind of kink is degenerate. Being a cuck is much broader term - it means a guy who suck so much that he is able to do everything for extremely low value woman who is treating him like shit. I do not consider cucks as human beings - they are closer to worms. Creature who at his own will is putting himself in such position does not deserve anything but contempt and despise. Cuck is a fate worse than death.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:10 PM
1

Hierarchy is not the most fortunate word - but in general attractiveness is measured pretty clearly, and women do know what they can afford and aren't very keen on lowering their standards. If you are below their league regarding looks or status - then you hit the wall. Women obviously may not agree with your assessment - and this happens very often, but with some experience you can quite(very) accurately estimate your chances. I rarely see couples who are not looksmatched - and women here are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:01 PM
1

Ok - but have this improvement of social skills brought you some actual romantic success ? Or you've just managed to make some nice conversations with women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:44 AM
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If we talk about actual relationship then you are right, but first you need to get there - for men the first hurdle is hardest and I would die on that hill, based on my experience, that it's the appearance that is crucial for you to you pass it. I can give you mine experience as an example. I was dating online for over 3 years and I've managed to determine my league very precisely, pretty much I knew what will happen on a date in advance. Women below my league regarding looks - it was like a wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:22 AM
2

You've made a very good point regarding life experience. I think that it is hard to build social skills in vain - that is, you cannot be interesting person out of thin air, you need to have some actual background to build on - like you've said, travelling and experiencing things. But I do think that impact of it is quite limited comparing to appearance - so it is good to maintain baseline level of social skills, but guys need to be aware that once you reach average - you cannot do much more, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:52 AM
1

Might be - but i was in 'romantic' phase back then, looking for so called 'love' and I do not believe that relationship where woman is so much above man in social status can actually be successful, unless guy is a celebrity, renowned(but poor) artist or sth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:37 AM
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Yeah - I understand what social skills are for, but I am more curious if this is actually that prevalent problem as women here try to present it, that is why I am asking about personal experience. In my experience vast majority of men are doing alright and are not rejected because of lack of social skills, but because of more obvious reasons like not being appealing visually or being from too low(or too high) social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:33 AM
-1

I've had a Fiat as well - fantastic Fiat Uno, it is surprisingly spacious - you can have sex in it, make a pot smoking party, sleep in it. Real chick magnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:54 AM
0

Females are buying packaging - not the content of the package.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:01 AM
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Let's put things in correct perspective. Things that are important in dating for men sorted according to impact: Looks Looks Looks. . . Status . . Money Personality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:41 AM
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Well - I think that it is a difficult pill to swallow that we are valued for how much money do we have, but it is a tiny bit easier to swallow for rich people than for poor people. You act like a millionaire who is crying because 'everyone is so shalloww booo". Is it entitlement, or just female delulu ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:29 AM
10

Very accurate - average guy with house and job can count of having it relatively easy with teethless, homeless drug addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:25 AM
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I am over 40 - and I've learned one thing about career and success. There are only 2 things that can make you successful - luck and being gifted, all these 'emotional intelligence' , 'ambition' bs is unimportant. If you are lucky - you can get a chance of doing well-paid job that doesn't require actual skills, it is enough to just be 'normal', if you are gifted then you can get top-education and make money of your rare skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:00 AM
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Tbh - I have heard such remarks regarding potential looks of future children from women only, ie. "I do not want my son to have a height of a sitting dog", "I prefer dark haired guys, I do not want my kids to have this mice-colored hair", "Dark black skin is gross, but mixed-race children are the cutest".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:37 AM
1

<image> Farage is just old, he was just average dude when he was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:20 AM
0

Nicolas Sarkozy is short and looks like garden gnome yet he was married to wealthy supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:13 AM
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You'd be very surprised. In tech companies there is plenty of confident people, but when we come down to actual well paying jobs - there is plenty of autistic dudes on managerial positions, they simply know in very detail what needs to be done and they communicate it in a very rough way. Wait for new generation of Indian and Chinese managers - that will be hitting a wall for western snowflakes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:11 AM
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There is a niche for you. Join far-right party in your country, there a lot of work to be done anf fighting lefties is fun. Do something meaningful instead of sitting at the cafe and painting shitty pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:51 AM
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I used to be neo-nazi and it had little impact on my dating life. I was dating feminists who were thinking i am just not serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:32 AM
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Social skills matter as far as you are not some kind of total outlier, but 95% of people can easily hold a normal conversation so this is not impacting their prospects at all. Everything boils down to looks, career and finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:28 AM
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Women in Tehran have been saying the same yet here we are. Western lifestyle will be a memory in a few generations, unfortunately i win't be living long enough to see it's demise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:23 AM
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They have short hair so nothing to show off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:21 AM
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Everything depends on genetal attitude. If we will shame enough cucks hanging out with high n-count females then this may reduce options of slutty women, but i think that ban on abortion and contraception will do a better job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:14 AM
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I do not think modesty is only about sexual context. It is also about not showing-off with your wealth and extravagancy - everyone is equal in the eyes of God and Pride is a deadly sin in Christian tradition. This is good for building harmony in society and reducing envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:46 PM
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I've seen quite a lot of young women wearing hijab in Turkey during the summer, in Sweden i guess it is rather a thing for Somali women. Btw - Christian women should also have their hair covered, women in Europe, especially rural Europe had their hair covered. My grandma would never leave house with uncovered hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:15 PM
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Hijab should be standard for women in the west, and men should not be allowed to wear shorts. This is one of the many things Islam got right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:26 PM
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I think that clothes should be more unified - it might force people to focus less on visuals and more on different aspects of personality. Nowadays we tend to look at pictures only - all communication seems to be reduced to pictures, it might be interesting to take away this way of expressing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:22 PM
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That is true - therefore liberal societies where we have gender parity or even female dominance on job market are not sustainable in the long run. Birth rates are falling from a cliff and it is mainly cultural issue. I really like it - feminists achieved pyrrhic victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:32 AM
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RedPill is cynical regarding women - it is not really about understanding but rather about inventing some techniques of manipulation in order to get access to sex. Some of these techinques/actions might be even quite effective - that is why women may lose some trust whether they are dealing with guy who is genuine, or guy who is just saying and doing the right things to get what he wants and disappear. Ie. feminists are deeply suspicious about guys who are presenting enthusiasm towards feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:01 AM
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I can challenge you on one thing: woman do not have to be married etc. to be happy in life, but if you want to be happy in long lasting LTR with a man, then your chances of having good relationship are much higher in 'traditional' arrangement. For a man - woman who is not a wife, mother of his children and his business partner in home ownership/other material stuff, is just a girlfriend that can be traded for better/different model once the opportunity will happen. If your man is of any value, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:52 AM
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People are not driven by empathy but by their interest. Current system is favoring stronger individuals - they are protected from collective retaliation, so they have some freedom in using their individual advantages. If you want to have them on their side you have to either force them or kill them as an example. This is pretty much how humans evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:09 AM
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None - that why through history people who didn't have personal interest in participating were usually forced to do it. Labor Union members were physically assaulting non-members or ostracizing them and eventually forcing them them out of workplace. Current system is defending individuals using law and regulations so it is harder to bully or intimidate them, in men's interest is to support dismantling of safety mechanisms defending individual rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:02 AM
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I won't - there is no mind reading device. I am just taking a risk - though there are ways to mitigate a risk, good way is to not deal with feminists and left-wingers, they are always crazy, and also not hang out with pick-me girls, they have their own agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:33 AM
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I think that men are taking action actually - manosphere is visible and feminists are spending (too) much time discussing it or fearmongering about it. For example we have a discussion about taking part in a war - obviously in US this is quite abstract thing, but in Europe it is not. Lots of male voices online are clearly stating that they will not be defending the country in current draft imbalance, and - what is surprising there are feminists supporting draft for women, there are positions on …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:07 AM
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You can do favors for mother of your children, otherwise it's still simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:37 PM
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This is how I imagine hell. Almost all men turned simps..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:35 PM
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My grandpa's friend was put in such prison for being a communist, once he was released he was even afraid to look at red color. Such methods are very effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:12 PM
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I am totally average though not shy and rejection is something i just consider part of life. You described it pretty well. Once I was active - it was relatively easy to find a date, though they were usually some feminist/liberal/university type girls - so it took a bit of lying to be successful with them, but they fall for such 'progressive' bs quite easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:09 PM
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Millenials are another generation that is more obese than previous one and has more early onset cancer rates, as well as diabetes, drug addiction and other funny things. Gen-Z are referring to some yoga freak influencers that haven't worked a single day in their lives and they indeed might look good - but i doubt they do know many normie millenials in person. No - 30 is not the new 20, ask any doctor about the shape of average 28 yo and average 38 yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:42 PM
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Exceptions do not make a rule. In single cases women can give birth to perfectly healthy children being 50. But overall risk of diseases and various complications is rising really fast with age for majority of women. Children of older mothers(and fathers) are on average smaller, weaker and more prone to autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:35 PM
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There is much easier to talk the talk than to walk the walk. Your charisma needs confirmation in measurable outcomes - have you made a single dollar with your charisma ? Do you actually have friends that are not losers ? Sooner or later every woman will ask herself this question having you in mind - and if the answer will be negative, then you are done. A bit older(30+) women will read you like an open book - either you have real assets or you are poser. What men find attractive is broad regardi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:22 PM
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Obviously - your situation is vastly different than situation of single guy, for you it is a better deal to date single mom, I would also prefer woman with children of her own since it is easier for her to understand that she will always be number 2. However - if guy is 30 with no kids, and hitting on single moms than he is acting desperately, sure - if it is abut sex only then fine - win-win. But if he is going to marry such a woman, and actually support other guy children with his own money - …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:09 PM
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Prison. We cannot really punish rich people socially - but actual physical punishment, years in solitary confinement with reduced food rations is really great lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:20 PM
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Seen it in my own eyes. Fortunately they've seen the truth and took the right path. But no one will give them back years wasted with Low Value Females.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:03 PM
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I am afraid that physical component will only gain importance. Let's imagine post-scarcity society - where every job is done by some machine/AI agent/whatever. Not a single of your action impacts your quality of life - so any confidence, leadership, humor etc. are irrelevant, machine will be always better than you no matter what. Only thing that you can 'trade' is your body, this will be the only value in such society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:54 AM
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Not always - sometimes they cannot postpone the reward, and they need practice to level-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:32 AM
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One thing I do not like in social-democracy is it's fatalism - it totally lacks any optimism and denies one's agency. They offer an acceptable quality of life for everyone and basically everything is determined in your life, everyone is 'cut' to the same level. Women love social democracy because only leverage you can get in it is due to your physical features, and this is the domain of natural female dominance. Meanwhile liberal capitalism is promoting risk-taking - there is a higher reward on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:30 AM
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In the long run - yes, in the short run guys have very low standards., Too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:08 AM
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It's obvious that there is not many diamonds in a trashcan so it's not enough of them for everyone - but we need make sure that young men understand that they are playing with trash, not with diamonds. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:04 AM
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Society conditioned young men to become cucks and desperate losers by being too tolerant for their poor choices and by being too tolerant for female lack of worth. We need to bring things back to the normal and dude that is not a single father but is hanging out with single mother should be ridiculed and looked down upon. Such marriage should be considered misalliance and lower social status of such person to absolute lowest minimum. However if the guy is distanced towards the whole situation an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:33 AM
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Gay guys quite often do not really like this shortening of distance that women are doing - I know a guy who is a hairstylist and he just wants to do his job, he doesn't need female friends and considers his clients quite dumb and not really his peers. They are not craving for female touch nor are cartoonish 'gay friends' from tv shows for women - these guys are just 'men' with different sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:18 AM
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Last man have been drafted probably today - we have a war in Ukraine and draft is very successful. My colleagues cannot leave Ukraine, draft is very effective. Every democratic country has laws that allow government to do basically everything with men in case of war, they can cuff you, put in a chopper and leave you on battlefield. Feminists saying that 'oh we are against draft' are giving answer at the level of 5yo child, without viable alternative it is just childish babbling. My son answer to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:06 AM
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Pick me is just another insult used by feminists to intimidate opponents or end discussion. New version of ad Hitlerum or ad Incelum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:42 PM
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Feminism convinced women that they are arbiters of everything - so they can decide who is good and who is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:14 PM
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So this dude spent all these years learning and working to become a cuck... Some guys do not deserve even a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:15 PM
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That is why there is no point in chasing them but better resort to sex work. Woman in her 30s is usually heavily used slut, so it's cleaner and better solution to just pay some bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:11 PM
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Women do it too - there were girls that were making at least 3 attempts to try again with me. One girl spent 3 years on dating app and she was writing to me everytime I've set up a new account. Besides - women are quite often not really sincere, they are flattered to have simps so their rejection is not really rejection, some guys fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:28 PM
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Nothing. We just want our partner to be at least a bit special for us - if our potential partner was fucked by almost everyone, then it is no longer special.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:23 PM
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You think they were making careful choice based on appearence or maybe just raping one after another ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:11 PM
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They are not 'ins some fashion damaged', they are damaged - just like a car with high mileage and 20 owners. One man's trash is another man's treasure - in theory, but in practice no one wants something that was put in trash by other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:06 PM
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Of course I do care - I am a narcissist and having children is absolutely vital for my happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:06 PM
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Women would be stupid if they would support RP. Red Pill is making men suspicious and not involved emotionally, so women can never be sure if the guy they are dating is really brainwashed or is just playing his role well. Probably they are not that concerned about dating because there is a large surplus of simps, but I've recently seen article where some feminist was concerned that redpilled teenagers are entering job market and they can silently make their own agenda in offices full of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:38 AM
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I wonder if periods of contempt towards unattractive partner are building up towards lasting resentment ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:09 AM
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There is no such thing as RMV - unless you call ability to pay her bills as RMV. It is like this: at 30 some women realize that they will be fucked living alone, so they have to choose either living in some dumpster with 10 roommates or go for guy they do not like nor respect, but who is able to secure them some liveable conditions or the same lifestyle that her parents were securing for her. Some guys go for it and they reciprocate lack of respect, which is a fair deal but women make pikachu fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:59 AM
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You have a voting card. Liberals are making fun of 'losers'/ 'incels' not being able to take any action, but we are living in times where you can have people doing action for you - women realized it a bit earlier than men, but that's not a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:27 AM
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I disagree. Feminism is a suicide cult - feminism is advocating for childlessness so typical progressive feminist will not be having any children, we see impact of feminism already. With very low TFR western countries will be having constant economic crisis that will drive TFR down even more, along with increased migration from conservative countries - political system of western countries will slowly adjust to their needs. West can either collapse demographically, or be overriden by conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:52 AM
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Most feminists advocate for abolishing the draft across the board. This is meaningless gesture, maybe they can also add that they advocate for global peace and widespread kindness ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:59 AM
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There was no sexual selection. Everyone was forced to get married, be it man or woman - if everyone was getting married then how this selection was supposed to be happening ? My theory is that imbalance happened with new generation of makeup, plastic surgery and clothing - it was probably started by Kim Kardashian. Before her era the icons of beauty were supermodels like Cindy Crawford or Linda Evangelista, their looks was impossible to be mimicked by average girls because it was genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:54 AM
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Nowadays internet=life, either something is happening online or is not happening at all. If young men will not be able to get any kind of relationships with women then they will be frustrated and will find a way to retaliate. Easiest way is to outsource the retaliation with voting card. If this is reasonable or not - we will see, liberals are convinced that their way is the only one reasonable, but for some reason young men do not seem to share their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:25 AM
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I think such experiments pretty much confirm red pill. Average guy have nothing to look for in XXI century dating, so having fully free market is not working well for majority of men. Probably this free market will come to an end at some point with more young men voting ultra conservative and taking female rights one after another. There is more young men than women so they have upper hand in democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:45 AM
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No pill - I am reactionary towards feminism which i consider a branch of cultural marxism. Dating is my minor concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:54 PM
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And regular doses of antidepressants to numb them enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:34 PM
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I have a dilemma - because i agree with intersectional feminism, but I also know that majority of self proclaimed feminists do not support this views at all. Pop-feminism or tik-tok feminism is plain old man-hating and oppression olympics and plenty of grifters looking fir making money on it. Internet is shaping views nowadays and if we take a look at largest "support sub", that is clearly aspiring to being feminist - we can see that it is obsessed with men, probably 90% if this sub is man-hatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:43 PM
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These numbers are irrelevant for situation when US would be forced to draft people, that is - once going to the war with equal opponent or even with any developed country like Russia. Current deaths on both sides of Ukr-Rus war are in the range 50-100k each side. Considering around 1-2mln(?) of active soldiers it is 2.5-10%. This gives you 2500-10000 deaths per 100000. Only country willing to challenge US is China, and war with China would be a meat grinder for US soldiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:06 PM
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I am yet to meet 'cooperative women' - women that I know are stubborn just for the sake of proving they're right, being right is most important and any logical arguments are unimportant. Even being proven wrong by everyone is considered as an personal insult and arguments are never taken. For women I know 2+2=7 is totally valid answer and a hill they are ready to die on. Women go to therapy to validate themselves - and sometimes to gain ally in fight against their partner, nothing more. 'Objecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:23 AM
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Therapy is a scam that solves nothing but is feeding your narcissm. You buy someone's full attention and putting you in main character role. People like it, marketing is always about putting You on pedestal and therapy is no different. Women like it, because they suffer mainly from hurt ego - but men suffer from unemployment, physical features, low status, stress, debt and you cannot fix it via therapy. Unless making poor guy poorer is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:12 AM
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Looks like You do not know much about female interactions. Women are also excluding those who do not fit their circle and can be really mean towards girls whom they consider inferior. I think that main problem of boys is that they simply do not care that much about their social relations when they are very young, no one is judging them for their appearance, their friends or the way they spend their free time, so they simply do what they please and are pretty much carefree. If they feel that play…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:12 AM
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<image> It's hilarious btw that Polish guy is halfway between Austrian and Russian.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:56 AM
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To be precise - im pro-vaxx because I'm pro-science, and I like big women, but other things are hard dealbreakers. I do not like these liberal things like feminism or bisexuality. I've actually dated girl who seemed great, but feminism+bisexual were a turn off. I simply could afford a classy woman - my wife is meeting my all criteria, it's good to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:57 PM
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Literally my dealbreakers, though I would never put them on dating profile. But I was sticking to them and I can tell you that these are dealbreakers for very big group of men. Even those who consider themselves liberals or left-leaning. I remember one discussion when guys came to the conclusion that tattooed alt girls are nice to look at and maybe hang out with them for a while, but are too crazy to take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:28 PM
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Most risky part of your date is when you are driving to the restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:23 PM
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Al Pacino is tiny and has lazy bulging eyes, by todays standards he would be mid at most - unlikely that he would become famous nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:04 AM
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I'd say that what changed is that world is changing really fast leaving many people behind. For example globalization gave upper hand to women, because manufacturing jobs have been outsourced while there was sharp rise in service jobs. Women are more likely to get mid-tier university education so they've reaped the benefits. But service jobs are outsourced again, and most likely AI will first hit jobs mainly done by women, meanwhile qualified labor is becoming more and more expensive since marke…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:34 AM
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I am reading them for some time and their main(only?) focus is pussy, they think about getting to women's pants and they talk about it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:00 AM
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Yup - they are not hypocrites. That is why they can be respected while feminists do not deserve respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:13 AM
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Feminism is mainly present in biggest cities, corporate world and in academia. I've spent my life in big companies and i see it like this: let's make an event promoting women ! yaaaay - female managers dress up, talk about themselves for few hours, there is some free food and everyone is happy, we are so progressive !, and we have rainbow flags ! we have a candidate for entry level - in her 40s, she has 3 kids - ummm, yeah she's qualified, but ummm. you know, we are young dynamic team. But you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:11 AM
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Good looking: Chris Hemsworth, Channing Tatum, Ryan Gosling, Enrique Iglesias, Kanye Average: Billie Joe Armstrong, Topher Grace, Jim Parsons, Billy Crystal, Adam Driver, Al Pacino, Patrick Stewart, LeVar Burton, Pedro Pascal Ugly: Willem Dafoe, Danny DeVito, Steve Buscemi,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:56 AM
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Red Pillers do not say that they fight for 'equality', contrary to feminists who are putting 'equality' in almost every sentence. Red Pillers want to get laid and they are at least honest about it - even though it is a rather silly life goal, but to each their own. Feminists are lobbyist group fighting for special treatment of young upper middle-class urban women, their goal is to have backdoors into hedge funds jobs, managerial positions, politics and academia - well-paid jobs where men are maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:14 AM
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Not really applicable for me. If I considered girl attractive then I was pretty open from the beginning - I am very impatient and direct, if she rejected then no hard feelings, women who were only my friends were not considered by me as a relationship material, if you are my friend then it's over, not possible for me to turn it romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:08 AM
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Not really, maybe teenagers lol. But probably at 40 the pool of eligible men is smaller because it is clear who was able to hold a job, take care of appearance long term, not become addict, etc. so if you are in this lucky group of guys who do well, competition is smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:51 AM
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I am afraid that women are into strenghts that are rather different than strenghts average guy has. Women like looks - natural, genetic and when you can make a decent living. Being intelligent, knowledgeable, funny etc. appeals to vey few women - and there is enough good looking intelligent guys for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:08 PM
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Because they love to be a main character and therapy session is peak egocentrism. You pay the guy /gal for 1h of focusing on You, regular friendship are give-take, at some periods you need to give much more, but therapy is only 'take' - no need to give anything. It is like a fast food of human relations, no cooking, no cleaning, just quick emotional big mac served in paper bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:30 PM
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There is a big group of people who are dumb, and these people have needs, show them easy way to satisfy them and there you go, they can even risk their life to fulfill them. Men want casual sex, women not so much, so you can scam men offering them easy solution. Women want to be slim - so there you have Ozempic, basically a poison with dozen of side effects and probably 2 dozens of yet unknown side effects, but they are standing in line to buy it no matter the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:20 PM
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cycling, usually mountain bike gardening programming and computers, I like doing some deepish dive into operating systems and programming language specifics traveling, specifically oriented on castles and palaces cooking - I make great kimchi and love grilled meat, I watch American youtubers to look for inspiration music - I play the piano, I'm a big fan of metal and classical music European comic books
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:40 PM
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Examples: My neighbor - she is a lawyer, her parents are well-off, she is 40 and looks like 30, very fit, really pretty, has a style, is really intelligent. Her husband is 2m tall, business owner, drives new Porsche, very fit, used to be semi pro basketball player. Verdict: reasonable My colleague from previous work - ex-Volleyball pro, pretty face, quite tall, not very smart but overall not a tragedy, she is working at the office, not making big money but not starving either. Her husband is han…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:28 PM
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I was dating 15 years ago and quite a lot of women were very straightforward as well - they wanted to know about my education, job, if I have a place to live, if I want children, get married etc. I do not see anything wrong in such questions and i was asking them too because I wanted serious partner to start a family around 28-30. I was quite frank that I am not into forever gf-bf thing, but I've had my standards regarding education, work, finances, family - looks was far less important(though I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:44 AM
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Maybe a bit cynical. I am into bigger girls - fat, tall, big hands, big feet, big boobs, wide shoulders - this is my type, for me such girls are above 10. But from objective perspective such women are not considered hot, and unsurprisingly they are into fit guys, women do not like fat guys, I was fit - so in their eyes I was more attractive and they were very happy that they are dating up. I knew that - but still it is a bit surprising how easy it is when you have advantage, comparing to how imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:37 AM
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It's not that much surprising - but still it is a bit sad that relationships are very transactional and that so many people can be really nice when they want something or feel that you're equal or better, and totally switch their attitude when they consider themselves better. It is not really mindset that I like. Fortunately I've managed to find great women, but majority are not people that I would like to even talk to casually. I have better experience dealing with men - they are less calculate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:49 PM
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I'd say that majority of women that I've met were rather shallow and it does not really change with age as many of women here claim, just the importance of certain attributes is different. * in high school I was looking great, and girls were basically approaching me. I remember the first day in hs - older girl approached me and said that "you are so cute, you need to hang out with us sometimes". And indeed we were hanging out sometimes. At parties it was enough to say 'hi' and 1h later we were m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:29 AM
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I have a son and I do not plan to put any pressure on him regarding his attractiveness for opposite gender - my experience regarding this is not relevant for young generation, he need to figure out things on his own. Sure I do care about his health, teeth, skin condition, activities, learning, showing him the world, allowing him to try different things, involving him in sports, teaching him that he need to take care of hygiene, clothes, haircut - but I do not do anything against his will and I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:18 AM
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Obviously true. In Europe it works like this: potentially good looking guy comes to wealthier country, he gets some shitty job to fix his teeth, buy nice clothes, take care of himself. Half-year later he has ugly overweight gf and moves in to her place, when she is at work he is trying to cheat on her with better looking girls or is just smoking pot or playing video games whole day. Couples which started the same but in the meantime female started making more are ending up in woman looking down …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:15 AM
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If you are just plain stupid asshole then it won't get you far, but if you are charming and generally nice to people at the beginning then it's a win. The biggest problem is to keep this charming facade long enough to be convincing and get what you want, this is kind of exhausting - biggest envy is towards guys who are resilient enough. I am a bit too lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:23 AM
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Some dumb girls help to smuggle these criminals, but other are joining territorial defense. We've started as a tiny discussion club, and now right wing is winning young people(both men and women) all over Europe. We've showed that telling the truth about African immigrants doesn't have to be taboo. Besides - immigrants being rapists is well known fact among young women, young girls nowadays are trying to avoid Uber if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:01 AM
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I've done even more. I was one of the first members of far right organization that is now in parliament. One of our first gigs was internet witch hunt for left wing girls that contracted HIV from some african activist. That was just like dream - we've really gained momentum in our anti-immigrant rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:13 PM
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Its not different than any other setting. Women are very egoncentric and have extremely high self esteem, when they have even minor success to validate themselves - their ego is reaching the size of an aircraft carrier lol. But from outside perspective they are pretty generic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:06 PM
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If you are into the all 3 single girls that are single since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:50 PM
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Not at all. You have no idea what you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:48 PM
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I've been working with majority female and majority male environments. Women are either generic career women as you've described above with very similar views, lifestyle and very strong vibe of superiority or just regular basic bitches. At the beginning I was even talking to them a bit, but at some point I've fully isolated myself and I've refused to talk about anything not related to work. I admire men that are able to spend time with women in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:19 PM
1

I wonder how much of anti social behavior is due to cultural impact. I've observed how my son and kids in general play in different countries, we travel a lot and we visit parks quite often. For example in Turkey girls(4-7 yo) are very mean and aggressive, they strictly gatekeep their group and they are very quickly losing their temper, while boys are rather open and happy that someone new came to play, in Europe oth girls react very postively when my son is proposing some play and they usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:20 PM
3

I am happily married but I was dating quite a lot and contrary to majority of people here I know how it is to be good looking and average. When you are good looking nothing else matters, you can talk total bullshit to any woman and get away with it, your personality matters to maybe 5% of women, rest of them are generic npc with scripted brain. If you are average you need to perform a role, but still you are just second choice because majority of women do not care about who you are. They care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:51 PM
2

It's fun to win, sometimes it's a bit scary to commit, sometimes we do it to prove ourselves that we still know how to do it - there is a lot of reasons. Guys put months of effort and real dollars to just score some made up points in video game, good looking girl is much better prize and all this seducing thing is much more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:29 AM
2

But this is how capitalism works and that is why it succeeded. We praise people who manage to keep most added value to themselves. Why then should any of us go against the rules ? We work for the prize - this is how the world goes. In communist countries there was no prize so people didn't care, 'you pretend that you pay, we pretend that we work'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:34 AM
2

The group of women that values looks+other things is really small - they are usually graduates of some top universities, it's at most 10-20%. Majority is perfectly fine with good looking deadbeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:20 AM
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Maybe - but it works pretty well for me, I am a perfect citizen with wife, children, nice home and good income. I am even one of the sponsors of our preschool lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:32 AM
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Tbh I do not give a fuck if society is functioning, it can totally crash and burn if you ask me. I am not kind, do not work hard and I do not have empathy, and it feels great to just benefit. Without benefit I would do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:57 PM
1

Tbh i think that men are way more 'romantic' than women when it comes to romantic relations, especially when they are young. They really believe that they are special and all this shit women are telling them, while the truth is that they are just best deal woman could get. If woman will come to the conclusion that she can do better(for sure) - it's over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:00 PM
1

I think that many women blame red pill for turning young men cynical and calculated when it comes to dealing with women and taking them away from so-called 'progressive' circles and reorienting them more towards right-wing and anti-feminist positions. I consider red pill a really funny thing that has some truth in it, but it should not become religion for young men. Women are ruthless and do not follow any rules, but you need to learn about it by yourself. There was a reason why women were denie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:45 PM
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linearly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:37 PM
1

Trends will be interesting. Most likely National Rally is gaining popularity among young women because they have a young politician that is very active on tiktok and tiktok is female platform. It would be funny if the key for right-wing to win young women would be to just increase presence on tiktok instead of youtube and X.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:40 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/49ydu3xo365d1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=387d78822fd960fa2c6fed7a1bfff64d23a9d320
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:25 PM
1

I am not sure if its the RP or left-wing itself is pushing men into conservatives. Majority of men are not really against abortion or contraception, in fact anti-abortion crusade is mainly a female thing in many countries, but feminists managed to convince women that it is sort of male conspiracy. What might be interesting is that in some countries young women are starting to join conservatives - feminism doesn't seem to have much offer apart from scaring women with Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:17 PM
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Red pill is an online response to online wokeism. The future of RP is connected to the future of wokeism, as long as there will be man hating content on tiktok there will be RP, if women will got bored with this shit then RP will no longer be having enough fuel. Will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:11 PM
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There is very little political, social or business influence of redpill grifters, we do not have affirmative actions for men nor even any actions towards improving educational outcomes of boys. All this manosphere influence is an illusion, its popculture at most - but aggressive feminism is not, cancel culture at universities is real, affirmative actions in companies, preference in hiring women is real. Education favoring girls is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:01 PM
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It is much bigger issue because it is actually about much bigger group of people. Incel terrorists are single lunatics - scale of this 'terrorism' is miniscule and these guys are always mentally ill, the are not some kind of ISIS. Porobably if it would not be about pussy it would be about something else - Columbine shooters were just depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:38 PM
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Mean things said on social media are turned into political support for groups that are able to proactively be harmful for men, so do not make pikachu face that such activities are facing backlash. Yes they are and will provoke different actions including violence - politics is happening on the street since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:35 PM
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What should I think about women who are taking big money to make events dedicated to fighting the subconscious bias towards LGBT people ? Only women are hired to cover such bullshit activities. Majority of us never seen each other in person, I have no idea if guy sitting 4000km away is gay or whatever, and I do not care. But I am crazy pissed off when i hear that I cannot get more money because we are in 'tough times'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:30 PM
1

Yes - hopefully tfr will drop to zero and left-wing will be eradicated by muslim immigrants(only religion that is not yet cucked and turned woke).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:21 PM
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Nowadays pussy is the main qualification, plenty of men have better education and more experience, but they need to make place for women majoring in some bullsh... but having good experience in activism. We have plenty of such women in my company, recently their main occupation was organizing pride parade and distributing rainbow gadgets. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:14 PM
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https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-young-people-right-wing-voters-far-right-politics-eu-elections-parliament/ As you can see - women are far more likely to vote green/left-wing. Though there are interesting examples like France where young women seem to be on far-right side along with men, but there are probably immigrant related tensions playing bigger role than general woke vs right-wing cultural conflict. Besides it is good to observe the trends, are we stable or number of realtionships i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:09 PM
2

Misandry is applied in hiring policies of largest companies and is deeply engrained in education systems. It's not about 'hurt feelings'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:55 PM
2

If you take a look into statistics of support for far-left parties among youngest voters, then it is pretty clear that 'woke' left has quite substantial support among young women. It is not marginal. Sure - in wide society it is diluted, but group that is most interested in dating is very much influenced by far-left ideology that is in general man-hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:50 PM
2

I was studying with a girl who was working at a store selling windows and stuff, and she was constantly complaining about 'creeps' that try to ask her out, and was jealous of her friend working at motorcycle dealership that 'at least guys coming in there are hot". Sometimes i hear talks in a train where girls are really disgusted by ugly guys that have the audacity to talk to them even though they should know their place. It is my general observation that being approached by ugly guy is an insul…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:38 PM
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Not really - I just think that this data is so vague that we can draw totally contradictory conclusions out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:03 PM
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It is not that easy to rebel against current culture. I strongly advise indifference - you need to know the rules and how to obey them when necessary, but live a bit apart, do not really involved in society. And then quietly put your voting card for the party that is anti-establishment, they are usually nuts but it worth to bring some destabilization into status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:47 AM
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I was going to school in small village - there was only one male teacher in there and rest of the staff were females. The amount of bullying, aggression, neglect and humiliation experienced by boys from farmers families was insane. Girls were treated well, but boys... I was spared only because my parents were well-off and well educated, but still - my grades were deliberately lowered because not merit was the criteria. That was when I understood that women are masters of double standards in how …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:35 AM
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Happiness is impossible to achieve for an adult man. It is thing for women, children and maybe some savage tribes. The real art is to struggle with dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:07 AM
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How come ? You do not have to interact with porn users or Johns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:59 AM
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Such talks are form of 'katharsis' - every guy is sometimes disappointed with his relations with women and have a need to vent. Guy is shittalking about women, everyone agrees and then we go to grab some beer and we forget about the talk 1h later. But if we are online - we already have women and white knights chime in and instead of purification we have a lasting shitstorm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:59 AM
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We see how harmful is when male talks that used to be limited to 'locker room' are now done in public and how upsetting it is for women to hear them. They do not understand the nuance, purpose and context of such talks and they get pissed. Similar situation will happen once you will try to apply male friendship dynamics into relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:43 AM
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I do not think that women are interested in actual friendship, because female-male relationships require that man will keep something that redpillers call 'the frame', but i would extend 'the frame' not only to hiding the weak aspects of your personality but also to hiding darker or simply less pleasant aspects of you. There are parts of you that should not be shown to any woman, there are parts that should not be shown to anyone. Women are ignorant in their knowledge about men, and have no idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:35 AM
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You statement is true imo, but it was not important to think about it for women, before some weirdos started gaslighting them that men do not really like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:52 AM
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Women will believe everything tiktok retards will say to them. Their newest discovered 'truth' and obsession is that their partners do not like them as friends. Hard to keep up with female nonsense, they have more time than men so they are looking for new reasons to feel oppressed or not appreciated enough. I blame boring office jobs, they should try some real work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:46 AM
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Being good looking. Other things are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:27 AM
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It's nice to believe such things - but in reality if you look good and have decent money then you can be even a convicted wife beater and still you would be having a line of women. All this emotional bla, bla is just virtue signalling and gaslighting males into not making too much trouble plus it's hunting for political support. Women need you to believe in this left-wing bs so you will vote against your own interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:05 AM
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This 'research' says about women who actually messaged men. But we do not know how big percentage it was, probably very small - the question is, why they were so desperate that they've messaged first ? Maybe they were at the bottom of attractiveness, so that is why they were more interested in mid guys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:48 AM
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I am discarding your example as non-valid and example of trivial issue.. Real insecurities that stem in actions of other people cannot be resolved on your own. You cannot be hold accountable for wounds inflicted by other people and yes - sometimes it is other people fault that you hate them. I do not like the rhetoric that victim is responsible for hating the perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:40 PM
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Normies with bad intentions are threat to autistic women, I've seen it and I know a girl who was taken advantage of many times because she assumed that exchanging sex for companion is fair deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:18 PM
1

It's a matter of chance. If you are invited to 100 interviews there is a chance that one will succeed. Its disputable if the chance is 10% of 1% but still. If you are invited to 0 interviews you have 100% chance of starving on the street. In the long run - average guy gets 5 interviews and one is a 'job', while woman gets 90 interviews and also one 'job'. But there are guys with 0 interviews through years, no wonder it's making a mess in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:08 PM
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I don't mind being judged for something. By setting standards I am judgemental myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:45 AM
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Yes, without hesitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:35 AM
1

Tbh I am not sure if phobias are developing in isolation. My cousin started with germophobia, at the beginning he just washed his hands 20-30 times a day, later this phobia paralyzed his life and he almost lost his fingers due to usage of some acid to wash his hands. He then developed bipolar disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:34 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:27 AM
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You've went through years of dating so your job was to just vet - even if your chance of meeting the right person was bleak, still it was probably there(and since you are in relationship since being 23 it didn't took you that much time).. Men in similar situation as yours go through years of nothing - not dating the wrong girls but not dating anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:25 AM
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Stress and grief are normal emotions - not mental health issues, mental health issue is depression or anxiety disorder, anorexia, neurosis etc. I just do not feel like I'd like to have to deal with it from the beginning of relationship, obviously if such issues arise during the relationship it's a different story. Upbringing is far more important than we'd like to admit, children are carbon copies of their parents - and improvements that they are able to make are rather small and gradual. That i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:18 AM
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If 100% men would be like that then maybe yes, but probably only some of these guys have bad intentions - other are just normies, your problem is to vet the bad ones. A man with such problems is just immediately rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:52 AM
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I think that it might be easier for a woman to get away with childhood issues in adult life. At some point bullying stops and you become a desired partner, even if you will stay not confident, insecure, weird or whatever. If a man stays neurotic, non-confident, shy, scared then he is pretty much done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:36 AM
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Regular conversation is usually mutual - you ask questions and pay attention, if you simply switch towards talking about something else totally unrelated then most likely you weren't listening at all. You were just waiting for your turn to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:18 AM
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Yep - and they actually quit dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:13 AM
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I am not dating since i'm married but my standards were pretty high: pretty face no tattoos not bisexual not left-wing not feminist no mental health issues educated has job not from broken home(not divorced parents, no alcoholism/violence at home, no growing up in poverty) not vegetarian/vegan not 'spritual' not too much sexual partners(above 5 in 20s is a red flag) knows how to live on her own(not that obvious, plenty of women didn't know how to make some basic meal or use the washing machine -…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:12 AM
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More and more men 35+ are asking themselves the same question, and the answer is: "I don't know why".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:02 AM
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Not listening to what a man has to say. Some women act like they're too cool and have lots to say, but when a man starts talking, it feels like she's silently telling him to hurry up or shut up so she can go back to talking about herself. This. If you have 5 women sitting together, no one will ask a single question. They will be just taking turns in speaking about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:00 AM
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I disagree a bit. but it is maybe my subjective observation. There is plenty of good(great) looking people in America, but there seems to be lack of the 'mid' people. Either someone is fit and looks great including fashion, or people are overweight/obese and do not care, in Europe majority of people are like 'mid' - not really overweight but not 'hot' either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:21 AM
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Beautiful women 'insecurities' are similar to very smart men 'insecurities'. Smart boys are getting insecure among smartest guys, i can see this impostor syndrome everyday, but they still consider normies as dumb, they do not even bother to consider them as any reference point. Same with pretty girls - they feel insecure comparing to celebrities, but they are perfectly aware of being way above normies. They cry because they are not perfect, but they would be disgusted to look like regular girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:47 AM
1

Looks like some people think that arranged marriages were common in the 90s and women just gained their right to vote lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:25 AM
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They were not forced. People reaching their 70s got married in late 70s early 80s. Housing was much more affordable back then in the west so it was even easier for a women to live as a single person or with some roommate. My dad got offer to move to SoCal in the 80s, he was totally able to buy a house even though he was an immigrant barely speaking english.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:22 AM
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They do not really have a conversation. They tell what they want to say and that's it. Sometimes i count how often they ask about anything, it's usually 0 times in 1h conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:16 AM
1

He was autistic and long term depressed - his brain was not functioning correctly. He was not some Heinrich Himmler who was intelligent are very well-adjusted but simply considered some group inferior and decided to eradicate it with cold blood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:38 PM
2

It would probably be great for feminists and so-called progressives if they would just disappear and stopped ruining your comfort. Progressive and tolerant people do not really like flawed human nature and human beings in general. But I think that they have a right to have a venue to vent their frustration, even if it is done in disturbing way. Shutting down troubled people or giving them lessons on how they should behave, speaking from privileged position is bigotry and is really non-emphatetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:34 PM
1

Not really imo. Sure - there is maybe 25% of women that care about personality, but rest will go for hottest guy if they'd have a chance, they will be in relationship with guys considered acceptable if they have a strong need for having a family - but those who do not have such need prefer being single, they are not looking for average looking, but loving guys with good personality and the number of voluntary single women is rising. It's not caused by lack of good boys or sudden spike in number …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:26 PM
1

I think being hot and successful will get you much further than good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:57 PM
1

Dude - he was mentally ill all his life. Please be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:32 PM
4

There are countless forums dedicated to coprophilia yet I do not think that every guy is coprophile. I think that there is order of magnitude more guys who are simply depressed because of their lack of romantic success than real extremists. But incels are convenient argument to spread fearmongering among young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:44 PM
3

Meanwhile incels do not even have to do or think about such things. Virtue signalling experts will automatically label them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:33 PM
3

Your last sentence is obviously suggesting that default views of incels is advocating for rape, violence and racism. You forgot about paedophilia btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:30 PM
2

Show me handsome incels failing because of their behavior and I will believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:18 PM
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Like it or not - people are judgemental and lack compassion. Usually the most judgemental and bigoted people are the people having extreme views - like right wingers or feminists. For feminists it is convenient to stick you a label 'incel' and gaslight society that incels fail because they are misogynistic or they have non-progressive views, but in reality incels fail because they are outliers in terms of looks or mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:16 PM
3

Friendships are far more distanced than long term relationships. My wife knows about my health issues and I know about hers, we share finance, we've been through a different things in life and we were in it together for real. I was trying to save life of her dad, she was the last person that spoke to my dad before he died. It is really hard to compare it with people that I go for a beer with and maybe I can help them to move some furniture. Sure - friends can help you feel less lonely, but it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:36 PM
5

The "broken" guy is a handsome millionaire that does miraculous self-healing once he is meeting a right girl below his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:54 PM
1

Totally agree, sure it is horrible experience to be sexually assaulted or being subject to violence - but this not really on us to deal with consequences. Women also do not date victims of child abuse or guys who were subjected to bullying. Such girls are ticking bombs - I would even go further, if you see any sign of mental illness, like episode of depression or anxiety - run Forrest, run as fast as you can..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:44 PM
5

You see the world through pussy-tinted-glasses. It happens even to guys your age, do not worry. I am spending quite a lot of time in female companion, and apart from maybe 3 women i like to talk to - usually i am scrolling my phone and they are talking. My worldview is that women are terribly boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:13 PM
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Of course it isn't shallow, though you might look stupid if you complain in public that you cannot find attractive partner even though you are not attractive yourself. For me pretty face and height were crucial, I do not care that much about weight, but these two were non-negotiables. It's probably a bit calculated - but in my family only boys are born, so I didn't wanted my son to be fucked with poor looks or being short. Sure - you can do well with good personality and charisma, but being bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:01 AM
2

I do not believe in this friends->intimacy progression, and majority of such attempts that i know about ended up in disaster. If there is no chemistry from the beginning - there is a chance that only one side is interested, this is usually a guy. I've had a gf who had a roommate who was interested in her for like 2 years but she was taken, when she dumped her boyfriend he asked her out immediately - she refused, she met me 2 weeks after breakup and we were a couple after another week. I've seen …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:46 AM
2

I didn't believe in gender roles in relationship and our marriage is egalitarian(i think so at least), but not in the sense that we have some 'ledger' of chores, we both are doing our best to have everything done. When our son was born I was trying really hard to do as much as I can - so obviously when I was not at work I was also changing the diapers, ironing the clothes, waking up at night to feed with the bottle and making a bath of our newborn son was mainly on me, because my wife was not co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:23 AM
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It is directed to everyone. I feel like we are supposed to be competitive in everything. Even goddamn coffee cannot be normal, you need to do it 'right', you cannot simply go for a walk, you need to practice for half-marathon in your free time. I've decided to go old school - I am proud of my family and that my wife and son seem to be happy. If I can do better at work - cool, if not - I won't cut myself. I do not want my son to come to my grave and say that 'daddy was only 50 when he died, but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:23 PM
1

Tbh - my first contact with height 'fetish' was via my family in US(majority of my family lives in Chicago), they were literally orgasmic about height of my brother, while in here he wasn't even doing too well with girls. Take a look at European politicians - many of them is quite short, whole it is mandatory for US president to be tall. Sure - it is better to be taller in Europe, but ie. I've had girlfriend taller than me and it wasn't really a big deal i know quite a number of such couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:06 PM
4

Decades ago they were 4th world country. I've been working with Koreans for 2 years and even been there for 2 weeks. For me Korean workplace is a very stressful place - hours are long and discipline is very strict, we didn't give a f..k about Korean manager but even though I was exhausted mentally. There is sort of tension in the air. In our branch in Poland when I come to the office I give a hug to my manager if we haven't seen for a while, we go for a coffee, talk about some bs or we just have…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:08 AM
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There is such couple in our preschool. They have a very tall daughter and very short son.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:57 AM
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I guess she might be sometimes rejected, but probably majority of guys simply assume that she will see them live and will be disappointed that they are too short. I knew a few girls in 180cm+ range and they were quite openly disappointed that they do not have too many options because taller guys would prefer girls who are prettier, shorter guys were not even considered by them as potential partners. Though they've literally 'lowered' the bar in late twenties, and seem to be very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:54 AM
2

Tbh all this promotion of polygamy/polyamory seems like an attempt to lure young girls into sort of sex work. These girls always have some history of abuse or suicide attempts, and people involved in it act like typical love bombers - word 'love' is repeated by them thousands of times and if you'll scratch the surface there is always some guy at the end gaining material benefits of this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:37 AM
8

I think that problems of tall women are quite often due to themselves unwilling to date shorter or equal height men, not because of being rejected, so it is not comparable to short men situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:56 AM
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Tallest people live in Netherlands and Lithuania, but these two nations have small populations comparing to ie. Phillipinnes so it's hard to call height a sign of 'genetic superiority'. I think our beauty ideals are shaped by culture, heightism is not that popular trend in Europe as it is in US. Neither Dutch or Lithuanian men are considered very attractive, highest notes go to Spain. I've noticed that even women online started making fun of height-obsessed men, irl i see plenty of couples of eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:45 AM
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If we take a look into stats - the truth is that highest marriage rates and number of children in developed countries is among most educated nad highest income percentiles women. Probably these women do not really follow silly tiktok 'feminism' but they are simply putting egalitarian way of living into practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:36 PM
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If young people in SK do not have a place to live, time and money then no wonder that they do not have children. Whole this gender war thing is probably way of venting because of general hardships of starting life on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:07 PM
1

It means that as long as you do not have these needs fulfilled you do not proceed towards fulfilling higher order needs, for example love and belonging or some intellectual needs. Sex is far stronger motivator than other things that make you feel good - men do not put that much effort into making a good coffee as they put into getting sex. Same is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:06 PM
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I used to live in Kraków - when i was in my 20s probably 80% of girls were conventionally attractive. The effect was that if you were slim and taken care of then your gf/wife might look the same or even be out if your league. Nowadays it's a bit different - Ukrainian girls are hot af, but locals are getting obese, tattooed, blue hair, etc. Guys on the other hand are really taking care of themselves so lots of couples polish guy+ukrainian girl, I've recently also noticed influx of girls from Afri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:03 PM
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Maslow placed sex alongside eating and breathing, so it seem to be quite low order need. Though it probably varies between individuals - though placing sex as being higher priority than higher order dosen't necessary mean that someone is disturbed or addicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:54 PM
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My childhood was fun though rough - whole days spend outside playing with kids of miners and factory workers. Tough boys and great friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:43 PM
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I guess it depends on which activity you are used to do for stress relief. I like to visit museums - strongly recommend, it's quiet in there and works of art are like a balm for tormented soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:39 PM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:57 PM
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I am not joking, this is how these guys think. Girls think this way too. Otherwise I would never get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:03 PM
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Dating apps are the victims of own success. At the beginning it was just a niche way for meeting people who didn't had too many single people in their social circle, I've graduated engineering and girls I've met were usually graduating in pharmacy, biology or marketing. I know that lots of people who lost their friend group because of emmigration also met this way. Now it seems to attract people not really interested in meeting someone for real - but to achieve some other goals: free equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:29 PM
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Back in the days - I was 17, I've had full head of hair and I was learning to play the guitar, I was beyond terrible and girls were offering me that they may help me improve a bit. My friend was almost a pro - but girls were not really interested in his playing or even talking to him, but the bassist from his band was getting a ton of attention. In general - girls/women do not give a f..k about your hobby, if they like you it may be safe way for them to hang around you but it's not and never was…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:58 AM
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I think we need some balance. Even in semi-1st-world country like Poland there is a group of people living from paycheck-to-paycheck but middle and upper-middle class is numerous and is living very comfortable life. The beaches in Spain or Croatia are filled with people getting there for fun, being able to pay ridiculous money for food and drinks, luxury cars are widespread, and people spend crazy money for sports equipment or to buy a fuckin cameleon or a dog. If you need a winter jacket for 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 10:15 AM
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I think that situation while lack of sex wouldn't be affecting my everyday life would be more worrying, healthy human being is acting towards having their needs fulfilled with reasonable quality, feeling unhappy or stressed because your house in poor condition is normal, the same with poor sex life . We can obviously fulfill various needs in minimalistic ways, but this will not make our life happy. You can have all your needs fulfilled in a prison or while living in a slum - but do you think suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:58 AM
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Yeah - but there is also Grete that somehow goes the other way, from totally passive to active and eventually resentful of Gregor. I think it is somehow anti-feminist manifest, Gregor wishes to help Grete fulfill her dreams, but Grete doesn't reciprocate once Gregor is in need and she takes the role of a provider. I think it is quite accurate description of current gender dynamics - men were more or less fullfilling their obligations in the past, but women put in the situation of potential provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:51 AM
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She was probably mentally ill for many years, so i do not think her experience says a lot about hardships of being a man, it's rather about hardships of suffering from dysphoria. But I'd like to point that women often say that manosphere influence lead to crimes commited by Elliot Rodgers, but he was also mentally ill and not really manosphere influence led him to murder and suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:26 AM
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Sex is a physiological need, you do not have to be addicted to suffer stress from not having it fulfilled. Some people are able to live a good life in state of chronic stress, but majority gets depressed. It's a bit like living your whole life in trailer park - you can do it but it's not really good life, many people just resirt to drugs or alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:17 AM
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But feminists do not want to deconstruct patriarchal constructs in domain of private lives, their main focus is on politics/business. Patriarchy favors women in dating or in many social situations, so it will not go anywhere. That is the one of the problems men have with feminism - women fight for equality at work, but they wish to keep(and reinforce) their upper hand in other aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:07 AM
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I like this term 'mediocrity-borne desperation'. I think that similar motive is present in American Psycho, there is something in male nature that doesn't allow us to just enjoy the life, even if it is theoretically not really mediocre. But it still feels like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:53 PM
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That's what i mean - feminism is focusing on negatives of motherhood in context of losing power in relationship and in losing some agency in general. This means that feminism and sustainable birth rates are mutually exclusive. Only solution would be to somehow make career of a mother as good financially as professional career, but it is not really possible in capitalism. Besides there is not much push from feminist/left-wing side regarding support gor motherhood. This side seems to be more focus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:19 PM
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I like the first idea but feminists rather prefer patriarchy with top male roles played by women. I never hear any praise of parenting coming frim feminist circles - it is rather seen as weakness that has to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:28 PM
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Matriarchy would most likely mean that majority of high positions in politics/business would be taken by women and gatekept from men. Control over men would be kept via mechanism of false accusations of sexual harrasment, it was done in the same manner in communist countries, it was enough to tell a joke about Stalin(or just be accused if trlling such joke) and you were put for reeducation in labor camp or psychiatric hospital. Cancel culture in media and academia would be reinforced, every crit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:25 PM
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I think that both ideologies do not really believe in agency of opposite sex, and by implementing various techniques they try to simply acquire desired partners, or even not 'partners' but rather a set of desired traits packed in human body. FDS is disappointed that toys on the shelf are of low quality so they advise how to spot the ones that meet the quality standards, it's more like a advice group for buyers of pre-owned cars. TRP is interested in catching the best specimen of 'females' so it …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:35 PM
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Such thing happen, but this is rather a thing of low class folks. Smart and dumb people form couples in different ways - smarter people are more picky but also their relations are more stable, lower class people tend to do monkey branching and form less stable relations. You can see it in statistics - the more educated and better off couples have more children and more stable marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:44 PM
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FDS do not really consider men as functional human beings - so good or bad are not their categories of thinking about men, they rather think of men in category of 'pets' and their goal is to somehow get the best pokemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:27 AM
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TRP - something may be wrong with me, how to improve to get pussy ? FDS - i am perfect, how to stay dumb bitch and get a top guy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:09 AM
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It's not skewing the data, tfr is just a sum of age specific fertility rates. If 14 year olds have 0 children then the impact of their asfr is... 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:04 PM
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At the core of manosphere ideology lies the view that women are lesser human beings than men, therefore putting big effort into actually getting them is humiliating. You do not put much effort to get a dog - you just buy one, and so will be with artificial women, you will just buy one and not go through humiliating process of dating. I think that many men, not only manosphere folks grow resentful after being finally successful but burned out and disappointed that the 'prize' is not really what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:58 PM
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This is taking into account all relevant age groups of women. Tfr doesnt take men into account. Anyway feminism did a great job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:20 PM
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Sweden is at 1.45 in 2023 and chasing Korea fast. Nothing will save progressive heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:53 PM
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I personally do not give a fuck about celebrating anything - we were not celebrating anything in my home, so the whole idea was familiar for me but not really practiced. Now I order flowers for my wife's birthday, valentines and women's day and buy some small gifts for birthday and sometimes without any special occasion. I enjoy doing this silly performance, though i still do not get it why it's so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:40 PM
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Yes - especially Sweden being for decades in a vicious cycle of unlimited violence towards women is finally waking up so birth rates plummet. Birth rates are low because western women are spoiled and have a brainrot from tiktok and ig, not much to discuss. Self elimination is just the right path - feminism and western culture are so stupid that they cannot and won't exist in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:29 PM
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I wish because I am big fan of Islam, but unfortunately they also have low birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:08 PM
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I do not weep - I am happy that Amish and Haredi Jews will put western civilization to the grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:05 PM
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And women are the ones deciding who is good and who is not ? Female delulu reached the point of considering themselves a God because they can limit access to their vagina lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:59 PM
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They made up rape that happened 30 years ago and put guy in prison or apply cancel culture. Perfect feminist world will be the world where men will be put on electric chair after some woman would claim that she was raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:12 PM
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It is common for hate groups to witch hunt for 'oppressors'. Feminists have it all - plenty of Volkischer Beobachters and gauleiters on universities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:40 PM
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That is why i do not allow women to my team.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:16 PM
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Please do not mix old school workers with modern cucked leftists. Modern lefties are trust fund kids hoping to get their dicks wet in blue haired pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:11 PM
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Not about pleasing men but about hating men. Largest sub for women is mainly about hating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:07 PM
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Isn't she jewish ? Why should it concern me ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:05 PM
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Modern feminism is a miserable and silly attempt of introducing matriarchy. It will end up in tfr going down to 0 for everyone apart from religious groups that will reintroduce fortified patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:01 PM
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This is already happenning with Gen-Z men. They understand that women have nothing to offer apart from std and decide to focus on themselves and maybe having fun with sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:42 AM
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Why we should read proffessional liars when we already have the truth on the table ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:40 AM
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Females are not too smart - they do not buy a human being but the image that you are creating. If you can perform well, you're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:21 AM
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But for sure average woman on this sub had more dicks. This is btw interesting from sociological point of view - incels and sluts taking pleasure in observing incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:54 PM
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Hatred is illogical but brings no less pleasure than love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:43 PM
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Having feminist mother must be a ticket to hell. Good that feminists choose to sterilize themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:08 PM
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Majority of single mothers are just deadbeats without integrity. They recruit from teenage drug abusers and they choose similar males for insemination.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:06 PM
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Not talking about you. I am talking about their potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:50 PM
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I think that he means that their vaginas are already tainted, yet they insist on pretending purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:49 PM
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This is a new level of cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:47 PM
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Truth is not misandristic. If women would not be desired more they would be just weaker men, and weak men have a really hard life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:35 PM
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Yup - and weak men are used as fertilizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:08 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:03 PM
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Without option to get laid men would bully women to death in every workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:28 PM
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Obviously only cheating partner is guilty. However cucked guy should demand satisfaction and restore own honour by shedding blood. That is very healthy for keeping society sticking to the rules and brings relief for cucked soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:14 PM
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We would end up in total patriarchy. Men would have no incentive to make any space for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:01 PM
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Some options - probably 60-80%. Guys who are in gender balanced social circles may even have these options quite easily available. Good options - that is for serious relationship are not easy even for top 1%, you simply have to be lucky to find compatible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:50 PM
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I would go for 2 and become a redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:39 PM
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Similar as having hair in your armpits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:53 PM
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Cool. The way you look might be a political statement, nothing wrong with that. Beards and long hair in men were natural state and political statement at once. Should we change cultural norms for you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:51 PM
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Not all. Neckbeards are not, they are associated with being antisocial wankers living in the parents basement and consuming weird pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:15 PM
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Even more accurate would be a man who doesnt bother to spend 45 minutes daily working out for having much better height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:09 PM
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Shoe lifts are like toupee.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:07 PM
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Everyone in their early 20s sucks. Not only in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:06 PM
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Maybe - but it's not esthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:05 PM
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Good for you! To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:02 PM
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It depends on duration, if you are with someone for 1.5 year and things went wrong than it's ok, but some deliberate fwb situations lasting few weeks are not something i am ok with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:29 PM
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My preference were women who maybe are a bit serial monogamists in their early 20s, but their goal of every relation is long term stable relationship. Girls who were into hookups, situationships etc. are broken and impossible to fix, so it was never an option for me for creating a family with such woman. I think that majority of women would like to have stable relationship probably somewhere in their late 20s, but they want to do some exploration but would not like to be considered trashy for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:18 PM
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I do not decide - women make the decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:09 PM
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It is not the social norm for men to shave their legs, but if this would bring me some attractiveness points I would obviously do it. But I do shave my armpits and pubic hair if you're so interested in my personal hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:58 AM
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I think that if men would grow by performing some tedious everyday task - we would be having quite a lot of men losing 2h daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:35 AM
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Yeah - and men who is walking in public in wrinkled and dirty clothes will be looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:33 AM
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I do not like it. There is nothing deep in it, I do not like skinny and short women as well. Some(majority) of women do not like short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:33 AM
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Ok - but the world is not revolving about your mental health needs, at least you have a choice - you can either shave or not shave, whatever, if you like the perks of being attractive then do it, if you care less then do not. It's nice to get the benefit but not put the effort - but the world is not working like that. There are people who are born with deformities or simply they are very unattractive and I can totally understand their grievance and feeling of unjustice. But in your case it's sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:44 AM
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It is kinda deviant to decide deliberately to be unattractive. Sure - you can invent your own category of attractive men who are 'not shallow' but still, your pool of eligible men will be very small, you may have to compromise on many things, it's a self-sabotage. Man doing the same would be a guy who is 6'2 but he decided to shorten himself to 5'5. People would not consider such guy normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:03 AM
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No one is obliged to meet the demand. You can totally ignore beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:53 AM
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Shaving may be about emphasizing sexual dimorphism and general hygiene, nice smell is a sign of being healthy, sick people stink. Women have less hair than men, so women may choose to push it a bit more to gain leverage, the same with bigger boobs, long hair mark good health and being young, so we have hair extensions, whitened teeth are also linked with good health.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:51 AM
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Fun fact - in socialist countries women were not shaving their legs nor armpits until embracing capitalism in early 90s. There were no products available to do this and there were no commercials promoting usage of certain cosmetics or beauty products.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:02 AM
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Actually having your head shaved meant that you are a nazi skinhead in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:46 AM
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About men without hair. There are some standards of aesthetics and that's it - not much to debate, we can say it's unfair or stupid but standard is standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:36 AM
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Men are shamed for other things, hair is actually included. If women talk about unattractive guy, usually they like to list that such guy is short, bald and overweight. Everyone bears it's cross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:37 AM
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New sport in oppression olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:23 AM
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Practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:21 AM
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Yes - modern feminism is about hoarding privilege, while calling it 'fighting for equality'. It's communist style of equality - all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:20 AM
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I guess women find photos of men unattractive, but there is much more that builds your physical attractiveness. It's your posture, voice, how do you behave, how you talk, how do you move, your style.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:14 AM
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There will be no children nor marriages in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:03 AM
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I do not put much value on material possessions, mother of my child must be secured financially in case of my death or any other circumstances. I was willing to take a risk, no problem with that, life is full of risks. A man must have some integrity and purpose. And the idea of banging some cheap gold diggers is ridiculous, i am on romantic side.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:15 PM
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I was living in mixed gender dorm while going to high school and we've had male and female floors. Problems in male part was mainly about not keeping rooms tidy, drinking beer and smoking cigarettes, but there was no bullying. While female part was crazy - at least once a week there was a serious fight, and some girls were bullied to the point of suicide attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:57 PM
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My mom always had low opinion about girls trying to lift their social status via marriage and in general about girls having high material expectations from men while bringing nothing to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:56 PM
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I'd say that it's not really that complex - if you take care of your appearance, you are fully socially functional human being and you are in place with slight majority of women in your social class, then it's pretty easy. Otherwise it's hard. There is of course element of magic needed - but in favorable market conditions magic is more likely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:24 PM
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Yes - it is probably related to more young women flocking to big cities where such views are more prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:10 AM
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It's not the same. In right-wing sub you can say something and people democratically will reject your opinion, but they at least have a chance to see it. While left-wing will do a prevention - i think it is out of fear that someone might like such views, and this is refusing the viewers to decide by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:37 AM
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Progressive spaces are indeed more effective in eliminating single lunatics, but the cost is quite often turning into echo chamber forcing very harmful and unhinged ideas. Example might be migration crisis in Europe - rejecting the opinions that we are not dealing with refugees but with illegal immigrants who are very often criminals and human traffickers in their home countries were dismissed as 'racist', 'backwards' and 'bigoted'. Result was the rise of far-right in Europe,UK left the EU and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:21 AM
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I'd say that our real challenge is Gen-Z hiring - their knowledge is acceptable, though it's visible that they are no match to older millenials let alone genx, but they are unwilling to do what is needed. Guy says that he doesn't like the task and simply is refusing to do it. Regarding women - we need to fill the quotas(though it is discussed that quotas are stupid idea - women do not like programming, they are not afraid nor insecure, they simply do not like it) so probably that is the reason f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:11 AM
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I think that it's a mix of both - some men are very socially awkward or even dangerous so they discourage women from using the apps, plus apps algorithms are working in a very non-transparent way to milk the users and somehow encourage men to spam everyone with likes. My experience with dating apps(actually it were rather dating sites) was excellent like 12 years ago, I was reading the profiles carefully and I was messaging only girls that i might have something in common with. Response ratio th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:52 AM
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Interesting. We have similar issues with women in our male dominated teams. Men in general are taking the assigned tasks without much discussion, I am trying to not take too much work on us so we have a lot of time to just do nothing(team is very talented, so we deliver). But women always have a problem with not getting interesting enough tasks, they consider review comments as 'mean', they tend to undermine senior developers opinion, overusing sick leave, oppression olympics, dramas and snitchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:39 AM
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I guess many men just want to go against the mainstream, hence the fascination with far right ideology. Left-wing is the mainstream(system in power) in 2024 and women seem to be following dominating option. Conservatism is passe since it is more 'rural' ideology, not really associated with wealth and prestige anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:27 AM
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Probably depends on country. Ie. in Poland far-left-wing parties have the ratio M:F supporters 1:2.5, while far right have directly opposite proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:14 AM
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Wait another year or two. There is more and more women active here and at some point policing will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:09 AM
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Esther Vilar have been heavily criticized by feminists and she was kind of an outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:06 AM
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There are some theories about general dominance of men - I guess some clue might be slight difference in IQ distribution(men tend to overrepresented at max/min centiles) and probably some sociopath traits might be also more prevalent in men. I guess there simply is a group of men that is very hard to compete with due to their genetic predispositions - and since they want something from women, they just create the culture where this subjugation is enforced. Men of course are also subjugated to el…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:53 AM
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I think that men usually take actions to improve their lives - after all men still are making more money than women, but I guess men are less bothered by poor or good outcomes of their actions. So men are less enthusiastic about success but also they care less about failures, also i think men do not have precise vision of their future life - if you'll ask young woman: "where do you see yourself in 5 years ?" she will be having quite precise idea, while man will tell you that 5 years is a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:27 AM
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Tbh i think that Gen-Z differs too much from previous generations and i am not sure if they can be advised. It is not possible to date without the will to have interaction with other people - not necessary in romantic context, but just to talk for fun, do something together in the real world. Gen-Z is not talking, one may argue that they are texting, but for some reason their texting doesn't seem to be satisfying their emotional needs, it is not real bonding - it is prosthetic, device is a barri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:38 PM
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People are not resigning from having kids because of affordability - it is half-truth. In nordic countries everyone can afford having children but fertility rates are dropping fast, it is because not having children gives you more opportunities to live more exciting and even sort of 'premium' life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:07 PM
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I am saying that having kids is a bad deal from financial perspective. Let's make it a better deal than being childless. We can spend the money to for example cancel student debt of mothers in countries where education is paid, or to build quality housing for families or provide them with downpayment. Or to pay companies to hire mothers and provide them with more flexible schedule. Childless people are getting free ride - they would be stupid to miss the opportunity, i propose to remove the bonu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:34 PM
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Nope. I think that if you have medical proof of being infertile then you can be exempted, unless it is caused via voluntary medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:33 PM
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What is the purpose of such accusations ? Is it about money ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:28 PM
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I do not like the idea of forcing women to do anything, but i think that childless people should be paying much higher taxes. Currently their contribution towards education/medical infrastructure is far from balancing potential GDP loss due to not having new citizens, and it doesn't balance private costs(both labor and financial) taken by parents to prepare young person to become productive employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:27 PM
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In circle of people that i know directly or through someone. I knew a guy who have been murdered, few guys who killed themselves, 2 cases of actual rape(one in a club, and one in local drug addicts squat) but never heard of false rape accusations. Maybe scale in US is bigger, in here there is not much to be gained via such accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:23 PM
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I don't think if men are actually expecting much 'happiness' in their lives. If life doesn't suck it's already good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:56 PM
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Fat+tall woman=happiness(for man).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:49 PM
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Not really - I've never heard about false rape accusations happening out of the blue,, but I've notice that young women tend to be very cautious at first meeting but then they shorten distance too fast. We have flats for rent - and usually our clients are female students, so when we meet to sign the deal, they usually barely speak and there is always a second person around. But when we 'know each other' - that is we meet for the 3rd time, they can walk around the apartment in t shirt and panties…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:33 PM
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I think that men never sleep with women they find unappealing - I personally cannot imagine having sex with woman that has poor hygiene or is just ugly. Idk like Susan Boyle - even though she seems to be a nice person. The thing is that men have very wide spectrum of what they consider attractive - someone here said that youtuber 'Pearl' is ugly, I've checked and tbh even if she wouldn't be a popular youtuber she would get a lot of attention from men. She is closer to hot than ugly on average gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:49 PM
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Russia is not a 'men republic' - it is a country, it's society consists of men and women, chief of central bank is female, she is one of the key players keeping war machine running. My country was oppressed by female ruler of Russia btw. And i do not blame women - I blame feminists for spreading naive and harmful agenda. It doesn't matter if bad men/women/martians started the war - what matters is if we will defend ourselves. Looks like it's not important for feminists to survive or they hope to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:16 PM
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It will be Putin(or his successor) fault - but this is irrelevant, if feminists will convince everyone in EU to dodge draft or even draft will be abolished(as feminists propose) then they will be responsible for defeat. NATO can cease to exist once Trump will win the elections, besides NATO doesn't have immortality card - there are soldiers needed to win the war. Nukes will not be in use unless nukes owner will be under direct threat of occupation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:40 PM
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I think that subconsciously we want to keep our potential dating pool in 'good shape' - that is have more viable options. Women do not want men to be demoralized by prostitutes, therefore becoming lazy and treating women as objects, while men do not want women to be too 'open' sexually because they do not want to share their potential partner in the future or even risking infidelity. No to mention risk of STD. This sort of policing is actually quite logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:33 PM
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I think that men who think like this are a minority. Majority of men prefer to simply have more money and woman on their intellectual level. Men are throwing away their looks standards once they see a smart girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:54 AM
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I think that misogyny/misanthropy/misandry are pretty much a signs of a narcissm. People en masse do not meet certain high standards to be considered 'equal' to our 'misanthrope' so they are despised, and this also validates objectification. Since women/men/people are inferior then it is justified to treat them bad. Being annoyed by people is not really mis- anything, i think that we tend to stick with certain type of people but it doesn't mean that we actively hate others or consider them not f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:55 AM
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From my observations it is quite opposite - once guy is getting an education and well-paid job, usually the old relationship with girl that didn't followed the same path comes to an end. I've seen this many times - even recently younger colleague of my wife decided to leave his gf, because he met 'different type of girls' in his new job and he wants more, looks alone is not enough for him anymore. Such guys want to have more women in these spaces, because they want to partner with their intellec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:21 AM
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Kazakhstan is an (mainly) Asian, not really European country and this woman is most likely mentally ill as majority of prostitutes. They almost always have history of self harm or suicide attempts. It's not a 'cultural' thing - Kazakhstan is a majority muslim and very conservative country. Such attitude as she presents is either sort of an autism spectrum(self harm, in this case BDSM, is very specific to autism/adhd) or some other form of disorder. Check if she has scars on her body, i bet she h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:37 AM
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Ok but how about Indian girls ? Are they rejecting Indian guys as well ? I am working with Indian guys and they are all married to Indian women. I know 2 single Indian girls but never heard a bad word about Indian guys from them, Chinese girls are oth quite often talk shit about Chinese guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:10 AM
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Ok but what if there will be a war ? USA has nukes so it's an academic discussion, but in Europe threat is more real and only France and UK have nukes. If there will be no draft - at some point war will be lost so it will be Pyrrhic Victory of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:35 AM
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If sex of someone in charge is so irrelevant then why do feminists push for having more women in charge ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:19 AM
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In some research women report similar levels of loneliness. Besides men were more rough in 'old days' yet they've had more friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:31 PM
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Poland. In here it's quite common for women 45+ to not drive. We have quite ok public transit and in my town everything is within walking distance. Sometimes I do not drive at all for 2 weeks. For long distance it's better to travel with a train or take a plane.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:12 PM
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Women can get away with lack of competency without being shamed. If you're a woman and can't drive - it's cool, if you are a man you are not fully man. The same with living with your parents, being late with certain milestones in life, having low-paid job, not willing to stand your ground etc. Men are for example afraid to dance in public if they do not feel really competent, because they are aware that being awkward in public is costly for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:32 PM
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It's not about having family and grandchildren - but about having the status of being The Finest Specimen of Chad. The one that you can take to Chad exhibition, and sell it's semen for breeding purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:23 PM
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Sure it may have, but probably it's just the way it is. We are only human beings after all. Besides nobody would be able to do work properly being constantly excited about their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:29 AM
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Some do, some do not, some women keep rose tinted glasses forever, majority do not - there are no strict rules. Though life would be easier and boring if people would be a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:16 AM
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I think that some of these RP guys want to be worshipped, it's sort of narcissm - tbh it might be fueled by overly gushy girls describing their boyfriends like they are some kind of demi-gods. Women have this period of rose tinted glasses at the beginning of relationship, but it's not really a long period lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:07 AM
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There is plenty of attractive people in the world and it's obvious that we are subconsciously attracted to them - I personally do not care - it's even quite cute, I also have female colleagues from work and yes they are nice to me, giving me hugs and no problem for my wife with that. EDIT: I've noticed that there is sort of control obsession here. I think that in order to find happiness in life - you need to accept the fact that very little in this life is controllable, you cannot control your g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:09 AM
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My son is training Sport Ju-Jitsu and (vast) majority there are girls, in general such sports like karate, judo etc. are very popular among girls here, not sure if more in general but definitely a thing, boys prefer football. I think that most common trait of such children might be most likely bigger need of movement, it is quite often recommended for children with ADHD or with sensoric integration issues. I am not sure if this means 'bossy' - though my son is bossy and his 'love' he met there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:00 AM
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Merkel policy lead to migration crisis which lead to rise of far right in Europe and Germany itself. Indirectly it lead to Brexit. German austerity policies for eurozone lead to crisis in southern Europe. German energy policy has been based on assumption that cheap Russian gas will fuel German economy, so even though Putin have been starting one war after another, he was appeased by Merkel(please mind that Putin commited genocide in Chechenya) instead it fueled Russian military spending and fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:49 AM
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You do realize that you've just said that feminism is bullshit since there is no difference who is in charge ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:42 AM
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Woman in charge of Germany did far from fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:14 AM
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Abusing your leverage in order to force something on your partner. Women may abuse their attractiveness, men can abuse their material power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:12 AM
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Women make terrible leaders but not because of lack of initiative in dating, but rather because they are too self centered and short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:08 AM
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Majority will choose guy #1 - since they are close age and have similar cultural background. I would say that women would even prefer 20 years older working class dude over educated guy, because they will have much more in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:22 PM
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There was no reason for manosphere in the past because majority of men were able to find their place in society. Along with globalisation and quite contradictory expectations that men are facing - many guys feel confused. On one hand young men hear: "you can be whoever you want to be, go on boy define your masculinity in any way you wish", but there is also second 'silent' part saying: "well, you can be whoever you wish - but you know, women have the ick if you are not masculine in traditional w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:09 PM
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We are both atheists - our motivation was to ensure that all legal aspects will be secured, i wanted my wife to inherit my assets and vice versa(we both got quite a lot of money and real estate from our parents). We wanted to have children in legal marriage and it was also symbolic gesture to show that we will stay together in case of illness or other condition. We didn't have a wedding, it was just a dinner for close family. But we were travelling a bit after getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:51 PM
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Sure - prestige and resources are hard to come by(or not - you might be lucky and have wealthy parents), but once you are there, there will be girls who are interested mainly in this aspect of your person and they are easier to pickup. Meanwhile women that cannot be 'bought' with prestige or money are very hard to get. You can be a celebrity like Ryan Gosling and they still will reject you without much regrets, they need to like you, they want to have a whole package and that is why so many men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:24 PM
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I think that it's good to share certain lifestyle and some activities - for example if you like sports and healthy diet, then you won't get along with video games nerd who eats junkfood. Me and my wife are quite active but not too much into sports, we usually spend weekends cycling or doing some city breaks, visiting castles and museums around Europe, we are both into art. We also like to cook together, try new foods, working in the garden, going to the woods(no bears here but plenty of wild boa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:09 PM
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This is a sort of trade-off - there is plenty of women who value prestige and resources above personality, but they do not make a good partners. Getting such girls is easier - but it is a fools gold, they do not have much to offer. Girls who have integrity and interesting/matching personality are much harder to get since you cannot impress them with your career or money or looks alone. It's riskier to chase such girls because 'demand' is very high while 'supply' is low, but it's worth to take a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:29 AM
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I think that probably 95% of redpill content is just trolling. I personally enjoy posting misogynystic content, even though i do not really give much fuck about this silly online 'gender war'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:41 PM
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Not sure if 'bloomer' is the right word here...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:17 PM
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Not really. Majority of women nowadays consider themselves a feminists and feminism considers all men oppresors or at least benefitting from oppression, and this excludes possibility of real empathy. You cannot be empathetic towards your bully. Women quite often do some virtue signalling gestures towards men, to validate their claims about 'egilatarian feminism', but it is not genuine - it's a part of their propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:34 PM
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I prefer as it is - volatility of female desire makes the life more exciting, element of risk and uncertainty adds a flavor to life. Otherwise it would be boring af - and boredom is the most unbearable state possible. There is a story written by S.Lem about creatures who reached total knowledge. All they do is lying flat because their actions have outcomes that are known to them in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:44 PM
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Please find on fb the old Economist article about men and women drifitng apart politically. Comment section is a one big man-hating festival. Single male voices are drowned in thousands of hateful female comments. There is no equality - women are poisoned with hatred and its irreversible. Tiktok did it's job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:12 PM
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I guess it is a mix. I can give you mine example - before I've met my wife I was doing pretty well with money but I was a bit chaotic with everyday life. My breakfast was a cup of coffee and 2 cigarettes, I was eating once a day at some bistro or even kfc and I was always in a hurry, because there was always some business to be done or there was some party/concert/weed smoking so i had to be there. I was really reckless, sometimes sleeping 3h. My wife on the other hand was less creative about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 08:40 AM
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40k - cuckoldry is a fate worse than death and even modern feminst women do not deserve it. 10 in looks - no need to produce more ugly people, it's more than enough of them. Husband - cuckoldry is... You know the rest. 10 in looks - again, they may conceive a son, let's not make this poor boy miserable from the very first day of his life. 50k - if he doesn't have much time he will be cucked, and as we all know cuckoldry is...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:20 AM
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I agree - but we should keep the same standards on job market. The same job title doesnt mean that woman is as valuable employee as man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:10 AM
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The thing is - on global scale women are more religious and more likely to attend service, religion has more appeal to them. Be it old type of religion like christianity, islam or more modern like communism, nazism, feminism, marxism, veganism etc. Motivations are primarily material and prestigious - religions allow for virtue signalling, and promise increased share of consumption like communism or nazism. Women were very fanatical supporters of Hitler(13 mln of active(!) nazis) because they sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:00 AM
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That is what i am trying to teach our younger fellows. Dating above your league is unlikely - but how you are doing within your league is highly dependent on your personality. And women talk various shit to brag about own options - but reality is that they know their league way better than men do and once they meet the right guy all these inflated 'standards' go to trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:26 PM
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Having a good personality is pretty much a recipe for disaster in life, however it's good to have well developed fully adult personality. You need to have knowledge about the world and gain life experience, this will allow you to deal with hardships of life, with other people and handle your emotions in healthy, non-destructive way. Revolving your life goals around getting female attention is childish and will not get you anywhere. Besides it's not really needed - women are not that hard to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:20 PM
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All studies in social science are promotion of left-wing views and feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:00 PM
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That was not the case in actual communism/socialism. My dad was talented engineer managing factory and he was making 4x more than top blue collar(miners), was given a car and a land to build a house, he could also go to vacation abroad while labourers could count maybe on some flat or place in a 'worker hotel' that is sort of lousy dormitory. High rank party members had separate stores where they were able to buy luxury goods imported from western countries. Without such incentives average worke…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:51 PM
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I think that getting a real woman instead of artificial one(assuming artificial is indistinguishable from real) would be more like a niche activity, something like a hobby. There is a honor in climbing the mountains or long distance cycling - but majority of people choose cars for everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:13 PM
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What studies ? Besides, sociology is not a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:39 AM
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I've been working in mainly female and mainly male environments. Women are doing one big dick measuring contest, while men cooperate. Women do not ask for help - they push their work on others, but they hate admitting their fuckups.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:53 AM
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Women do not take advice. They need to cut at least 10 fingers with circular saw in order to start even thinking that they are doing something wrong. That is why women are terrible leaders - they are too proud to admit own mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:21 AM
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Well Jackie Chan is a celebrity and women sleeping with celebrities are special kind of weirdos. Regarding general advice in the normie world - for men the 'first hurdle' is hardest, while women advice usually regards building the relationship after passing the first hurdle and their advice it's pretty accurate, but the 'first hurdle' problem is unknown to women since they are making the choice so it's not a challenge for them. I suggest mixed approach - 'first date' advice from men, later you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:11 AM
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Tbh I've never did a cold approach - it's considered creepy and might be risky here, boyfriends tend to be jelaous and not afraid of confrontation. It was always social setting where people were introduced to each other. I was rejected a few times but it wasn't really a big deal for me - though what is funny i've had situations when girls actually changed their mind after some time and wanted to go out. I do not know of single case of successful cold approach - though i know few cases of cold ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:37 PM
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The real test is when they are starting a family and everyday life comes into play. Taking care of children and remembering about hundreds of everyday life things is hard and boring, extremely boring because sometimes you repeat the very same routine hundreds of days in a row. Unfortunately that is when many guys start failing, they start to withdraw from it, sometimes into video games, sometimes they are looking for more interesting friends, sometimes it's alcohol, they do not know about doctor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:17 PM
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It's funny how it depends on country. In Poland major motivation for joining the police was ability to retire after 15 years(now its 25) - we do not have that much violent crime here so the job is not as stressful as it is in US(i guess). Police officer is just a normal job, not really linked with domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:50 PM
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Bad reputation is still better than miserable reputation. Kanye West has poor reputation - but still he is way more admired than nice guy who is good to animals, loves his mom and is still a virgin in his 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:49 AM
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There is no solution - people need a purpose and a venue to signal their virtues. We've rooted out old religions, patriotism is passe, so new ones emerged - be it climate activism, veganism, manosphere, feminism, leftism, animal rights etc. Historically women were always more religious and men followed to get laid - so here we go again, only difference is that men are not getting the prize for following the religion, pretty much because new female religions do not appeal to men and it's easy for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:57 AM
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The thing is that you do have a chance of making mistakes and learning from them, you also do have a chance of experiencing positive things so you can have an opinion. The problem of many guys complaining the most is that they lack the chance to learn. They get couple of matches on app, maybe one failed date once a half year and that's it. Sometimes you may be their failed date - but you will forget it soon, for them it's just one of the very few experiences they have so they grow bitter. Even e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:04 PM
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I totally get it when someone was attacked by someone of certain race and gender and developed a phobia. But people realize that phobias are irrational, usually it is recommended to seek therapy to heal the phobia. If you try to rationalize your phobia and turn your fear into totally valid and justified ideology worth spreading, then you become an extremist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:10 PM
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So basically every feminist has it's own definition of feminism. But since everything is feminism then this term is meaningless. I can call myself communist but with restriction that i believe in market economy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:31 PM
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Feminism is just another populist ideology like nazism, communism etc. They look for an enemy and then start fear-mongering, collective responsibility, reparations for sins of fathers, dehumanization, linking bad traits with natural features(male gender) and at the very end they claim superiority. Everything under guise of fighting for justice. Every populism is about justice. It's the same old song.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:12 PM
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Being cheated is always sort of humiliation - sure, people would shit on cheater but still - it's the cheater who won. Found someone better and was accepted, this is a win - loser is left alone and cucked. You can get pity but not real respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:00 PM
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If someone starts a fight - he either has his buddies around or is mental or high or all at once. It's always bad idea to involve in fight - you can even accidentally kill the guy and you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:49 PM
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Crime is getting high when we have: - high unemployment of young working class people - police is underfunded and non-effective - public transportation sucks - social mobility is low In my country violent crime is very low - we have very low unemployment, police is quite effective, it's pretty easy to join middle class - you can take some free training in operating excavator and make a decent living. Things like drug dealing and prostitution are mainly controlled by police, they get their share …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:45 PM
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No worries - guys who can fund a princess life are not suffering from shortage of women willing to marry them lol. In some cities owning your own place is a big advantage on dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:29 PM
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I've never noticed anything like this unless there is a serious problem in relationship - usually it's about alcohol. In such case anything that guy is saying will be mocked - but otherwise women are usually fighting like lioness for their partners if someone tries to disrespect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:59 AM
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So you are ok with just giving up to aggressor ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:20 AM
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A dog - if i have to die it's better to die in good company.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:14 AM
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That is why dual citizenship is banned in many countries, besides you can always become stateless - it will most likely result in being put in detention center, but living up to your ideals is always at a cost. You must also take into account that everyone might refuse fighting and then you need to prepare for being killed or live under occupation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:02 AM
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If you don't consider your country worth fighting for - then you should change your citizenship. Otherwise it's fair to assume that you consent to fight if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:25 AM
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We have similar discussion in my country since we are next on the list. Quite a lot of young women seem to be ok with Israeli model since our situation is similar. Now they are joining local equivalent of National Guard and doing well. My opinion is that it's better to go for 40+ males if needed, since women this age are usually much weaker and not useful on battlefield - but i would lock the borders for women as well because we need someone to work and pay taxes. It cannot be like guys are dyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:15 AM
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So true. At some point I've noticed that I get along with 'basic' girls best and I was most successful with such girls. So my match was typical average looking girl, who is an accountant, engineer, pharmacist or teacher, likes to spent time in the garden, hiking, cycling or at spa hotel, wants 2 kids, dog and house at suburbs. Every attempt to date an artist, alt girl, girl with passion, anime lover or anything outside of average was a disaster lol. But i disagree that women are less diverse - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 08:01 AM
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I remember that 10-15 years ago in my country married young women were discriminated badly, to the point of being explicitly informed at interview that she will get pregnant soon and company will lose 'investment' in her. Nowadays no one cares - there is plenty of work to do so every person with functional brain and willing to work is welcome. However a friend of mine has been fired after having 1st child(15 years of loyal work at one company - never refused overtime), but this company is french…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:56 PM
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You can learn how to date and have success with people in general. You won't become Chad of course - but you can greatly improve how you are doing with your looksmatch. My 2 years of more serious dating changed a lot in my life - at some point I wasn't even asking girls on dates in romantic context, I just wanted to have company to visit some museum/concert/event so I simply called some girl I previously met online and usually she was more than happy to go with me. I even learned how to pass job…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:06 PM
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Majority - indifferent, they are pretty much in category 'human being' - their gender is irrelevant. I've dated quite a number of women and i'm a bit jaded - but it's pretty much result if mine poor choices, not really sone general failure of women. Feminists - dislike, I do not like hateful bigots - be it racists, antysemites, misandrists, misogynists etc. Modern feminism is bigotry filled with cynism. Girls from my region - a bit admire, they are tough girls from blue collar background. No bul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:14 AM
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Nope - there is no such choice since they are sitting on their butts with their phones. What is real is their man-hating, saying 'i choose bear' means 'i hate men'. That's what is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:57 AM
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I do not get it either tbh. I love comfort and nice things - life is way cooler in luxury. Living with 4 dudes would be a nightmare for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:11 PM
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Tbh corporate jobs are not hard and quite well paid and there is also quite a lot of opportunities to socialize in such environment. I prefer to have it easier in life and money won't hurt. Besides men are better suited for such jobs since there is high premium for kind of job.that suits men better - more technical analysis than actual human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:05 PM
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It will affect politics and culture in the long run. At some point even wildest takes of feminists have been treated like a gospel - nowadays everyone is more cautious and there is some reflection if further demands are valid or fair. RP and Incels are influencers - whether we like it or not, they've brought attention to many issues modern men are facing, and this time these issues are taken more seriously. Women are ofc part of the society, and they are mothers of sons - so mothers may undertak…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:24 PM
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Please try it empirically. Let me know how it went.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:08 PM
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Women would rather be with a bear because they are stupid. There is no other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:01 PM
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How to fix male mental health issues? Average woman: - by protecting women from male mental health issues. Feminist crowd applause. Curtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:27 PM
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Feminism is ideology that needs enemy to survive, without the enemy there is no need for feminism. Enemy is obviously a male, they call it 'patriarchy' but its about all men - not the ruling class. In order to defeat a man - they need to remove something they perceive as their major weakness in this struggle - pregnancy. There is something deeply misogynist in feminism - natural functions of female body are despised by feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:42 AM
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Women no longer want to have children so they do not have a need for safe partner. When they are bored and need male company they can call a simp, they can also make money by themselves so they absolutely do not need average guy anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:13 AM
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This is totally my experience with women constantly informing the world about being a feminist. My wife also makes fun of these weirdos - she is just doing her job and is successful, no need for special treatment or "oh, i need to work 3x harder than men" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:03 AM
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Nope. Feminists in 21st century have thinly veiled despise for men and want to gain privilege at men's expense, using shaming and group responsibilty tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:58 AM
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No. But some may be forced by life situation to look for some beta bux, but they will despise the guy anyway and will be convinced that guy is lucky to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:45 AM
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Emotional attraction was a cope developed by women to somehow stay in marriages that were more or less forced on them by economy or society. There is no such thing - that is why more and more women are single nowadays even though young guys are trying hard to comply to this gaslighting about 'emotional maturity'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:19 AM
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It's not 'stated preference' lol. You have filters in dating apps which are actually applied and this is one of the main ways people meet each other nowadays. I've done a small experiment when i was still dating - i've switched my height from 178 cm(real height) to 180 cm - the effect was immediate and quite shocking, ofc it's hard to tell 2cm difference live so i've got away with it, but it shows how crucial height is - women talk a lot about 'compatibility' but looks like 1 cm is way more impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:02 AM
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I'd say it is pretty fair in LTR context. Women do not care that much about personality of their partner - but it's hard for them to find physically attractive partners, while we would like to have both - sexually appealing(easy part) and also reasonably intelligent(harderst part) partner - not 'emotionally intelligent' crap but real intelligence and compatibility without mental health problems. And here things go south - it was never hard for me to get girl that i consider ok looking and intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:39 AM
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Feminism wants to get rid of judgement towards women and reinforce judgement towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:30 PM
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It is not really their fault. Women are taught from the childhood that they are special and must focus fully on 'self'. There is a whole industry aimed at selling products to improve different things about themselves, they are pushed to constantly analyse 'self' so there is not much bandwidth for anything else. Every detail of their life is analyzed. Even when they discuss relationships - it's never about what they can do for a partner, but always about adjusting partner to their needs. Do you k…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:20 PM
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I think that nowadays people tend to do sort of mental masturbation with their insecurities. They wear them like some badges of honor - it is because our culture promote focusing on 'self' - everything that we do must be for done for ourselves, me, me, me - this is what west(and east) is about. If you think about yourself 24/7 at some point tiny issues become huge and your life starts revolving around them. Men took this thinking from women - but women can live with it since they do not have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:16 AM
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Every reason to spread man-hating is good for modern feminists. Their current fixation is age gap - social media is full of such content.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:57 AM
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I would consider putting me on single island with modern feminist as an cruel and unusual punishment and according to Universal Declaration of Human Rights such thing should not be allowed. I know my rights goddamit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:11 PM
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Prominent left-wing politicians(members of parliament) calling men refusing conscription 'manlets' - and cynically saying that 'someone has to be in the army'. This party is supported by young women identifying as feminists. Plenty of 'women in tech' programs giving jobs to women at the expense of more competent men. It's a result of feminist agenda. Countless amount man-hating content on social media. Boys issues in school dismissed with simple 'oh they don't behave well so they fail'. Ofc it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:02 AM
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Went to big cities. Europe is small and education is free - what you need to leave the small town is slightly above average grades and train ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:09 AM
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It depends on country. In Europe guys in rural areas are usually single without prospects of getting married. Be it CEE, France or Nordics. There are whole towns of 40+ bachelors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:55 AM
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Isn't this 4b and megalia site sort of satire ? I guess more important reasons for low birth rates are financial and overwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:53 AM
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This is a solution only for sophisticated connaisseurs of female beauty. Not everyone is brave enough to try - but those who tried are highly rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:47 PM
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It's empty. This train is gone since the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:28 AM
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Nah. If you'd have more idea what is out there you would lose any respect towards women. Without it you can at least have some positive illusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:19 AM
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So what ? You can always find another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:14 AM
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Average young guy in Serbia or Croatia is probably around 185 cm and is active in sport since childhood. Good luck in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:46 AM
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Decades of feminist propaganda cannot be undone in one day. But we will reeducate them - promiscuous women do not deserve love nor respect. Jesus Christ is no longer here to save these Mary Magdalenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:11 AM
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Ffs of course not ! My poor boy - you are in the darkness, old women are either married or promiscuous or man-haters. Do you want to be cucked and manipulated into being a toy boy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:36 PM
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Yeah - I am interviewing these "proffesionals". Looks like tattoo ink is harmful to brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:10 PM
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Well - promiscuous women have the value of an urinal. It is an useful item - but should you marry one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:31 PM
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It's the truth - but it is not the age that is actual reason. It's personality mismatch - women are choosing based only on looks, they do not know nor understand men at all, so their choices are random. Men are passive side so they accept this choice made by a woman - after all, it's better to fuck than not to fuck. However - women never know if their partner even like them or are they just in there because for men it's better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:16 PM
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I've described average guy in his 20s in my work(though majors differ) - and his female counterpart. Women look like obese clowns and are promoting some weird feminist shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:58 PM
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Sure it's common and trashy - so guys who are into weird and trashy girls do not complain. But those who want something more - they do not have much options unless they are loaded Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:37 PM
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How many young women have tattoos or septum ? >50%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:17 PM
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By weird looks most guys undestand these septum rings, tattoos, colored hair, bdsm collars, tunnels etc. No one is bothered by big nose lol. Guys want basic, normal, healthy girls - not some alt weirdos straight from OF. Basic girl is a rarity among gen Z - every girl needs to be original.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:07 PM
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Because it's the ultimate shittest invented by humanity. Marriage is a financial and social commitment - it brings tons of problems if it will fall apart, so you need to be sure about your feelings to do this step. Meanwhile normal relationship can be ended with 'goodbye' or even via short message. I know plenty of couples that ended their 10+ year relationships with short message, usually girl found the guy willing to get married and it her few hours to start a new life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:01 PM
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My wife has a lot of colleagues aged 22-26, and based on her observations - girls who have boyfriends are usually aiming and getting the guys who are both handsome and their profession is being a son of a wealthy dad. I thought that she is fucking with me - but I've seen with my own eyes that guys are picking their girls up from university classes with AMG, Porsche, BMW M-series. So yeah - probably commitment is still sought after, but guy have to meet really inflated standards. Average guys hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:44 PM
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Oh - are guys discussing here seriously ? Good Lord - world is in worse state than I imagined.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:00 PM
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Those who were thinking the same are already killed by the staff of this petrol station and their countries were razed to the ground. This is a very dangerous country run by very intelligent people that have no hearts, no souls and never, ever give up, and never forgive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:57 PM
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Such men are a rarity and probably have more serious problems than dating. If someone is so far from reality that he counts on getting teenagers while being 35+ then it is a medical issue. Not really anything related to dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:49 PM
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Are these standards high ? Let's take some average Joe - he recently graduated majoring in structural engineering, his job prospects are good. He is slim, not a gymbro but in shape - he is swimming, jogging, maybe rides the bicycle. He is not doing drugs, drinks casually with his friends, non-smoker, knows the worth of money - his hobby is riding the motorcycle, he is also interested in politics, economy, enjoys the music, likes reading. He never had episode of depression, his parents love him. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:33 PM
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I do not think about such bullshit - only cucks and neckbeards without any serious problems think about their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:59 PM
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Actually Russia is the biggest country in the world, put a man in space and have second largest nuclear arsenal. It is a world power - even though it promises that it will annihilate my country at least once in a month lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:55 PM
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No worries - lefities will sooner or later ban teaching mathematics at school so everyone will be finally intelligent. Except boys ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:50 PM
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Don't be silly with your paternalizing - everyone knows that wit is attractive, big boobs are attractive as well, but they are not equivalent of intelligence. I am just making crusade against calling everything 'intelligence' - nowadays my fridge seems to be 'intelligent' or at least 'smart'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 12:11 PM
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Intelligence is the ability of solving problems and to perform abstract thinking. You can be fantastic conversational peer in some contexts but it doesn't make you intelligent - you are just nice buddy. It has it's value - be happy about it, but please do not mix it with intelligence. These things are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:52 AM
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People tend to believe in a really strange things about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:45 AM
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In Sweden it's quite common - men suffer because of bigger queues, women benefit because of shorter queues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:10 AM
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Was he wearing his hat backwards ? Every fuckboi does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:06 AM
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It's not intelligence. It's wittiness. Some people call it intelligence to feel better. 'Red' is not a shape, 'Round' is not a color, 'Wittiness' is not intelligence, "Emotional Intelligence' is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:03 AM
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know the level of wittyness I want when i see it. Like all of us - that is why it has nothing to do with intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:56 AM
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Wittiness is context dependent and highly subjective therefore irrelevant to discuss about. It's probably hard to believe but some people consider Amy Schumer witty. Real intelligence is easily measurable, that is why women do not like to be assessed in this regard. It's hard to cover your lack of competency with setting your own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:47 AM
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Amen to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:29 AM
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You can pretend commitment so it looks like commitment but is not. Sometimes it might be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:26 AM
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Everytime we have discussion about intelligence - you can bet that there will be a woman that will add that: emotional Intelligence is more important being witty is a must for intelligent people(of course women are the judges who is and who is not witty) he must make me laugh, otherwise he is not really intelligent Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:24 AM
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I disagree. You can totally date single mom for fun - just do not marry her nor take any financial responsibility for her children and you will be fine. There is nothing wrong in having nice companion - it doesn't make you a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:16 AM
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Nah - when women have even little success in fields dominated by men, they tend to brag about it and do dick measuring contests. The silliest thing is that they really believe that they were "working 3x harder and are 3x more competent' comparing to men being in the same position. The really smart women that are really classy are now close to 80 - younger generations are parroting feminiazi hot takes even though their achievements are not as impressive as those of older ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:09 AM
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reasonable people do not have the 'reason' to label themselves as feminists since there is nothing to fight for regarding actual law that is supposed to oppress women. It's done - this fight have been won by your grandma. You may do it for entertainment but you are passive since everything is already won - I am referring to active feminists, I do not care about normies who have the need to label themselves as 'feminist'. Looks like need to start labeling myself as 'abolitionist' and 'anti-segreg…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:46 AM
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Nice appeal to authority. Nobel prize winners are capable of being wrong, of choosing to believe a comforting or cultural belief against evidence, and even of lying about their beliefs for social reasons. It's just a little trolling from my side. Person i am arguing with used big quantifier to claim that religious people lack critical thinking skills. It's a silly claim typical for atheist neophytes so my answer is silly as well, but at least valid - You cannot be a successful scientist and lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:39 AM
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No true Scotsman lol. But why men do not fight for retaining their rights ? Average Joes didn't have much rights through the history - yet i do not hear about 'peasantism'. The truth is - feminism in 2024 have multiple definitions, probably every woman has it's own, but the most common attitude of women identifying themselves as 'feminists' is not retaining the law to own a property - but spreading the hate towards men, shaming men, creating new lanaguage where normal male beahviors are labeled …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:19 AM
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What is the point of feminism since women have equal rights ? What these women are fighting for ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:06 AM
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Yes - and NSDAP was about german workers rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:58 AM
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If you think that women should have the right to vote and own property - you are normie. Feminism is no longer about these things - now it's an extremist hate group. Think about it - why fight for things that are here for over 70 years ? We do not have people calling themselves 'abolitionists' all the time because there is no slavery anymore, yet we have feminists lying in our face that they are just supporting 'owning a property'. It's so double-faced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:54 AM
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Women have equal rights and feminists know that very well, saying that feminists are ' only fighting for equal rights' is obvious bullshit that every thinking person can see. Modern day feminism is a hate group demanding extra privileges for women and is considering men inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:24 AM
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The greatest minds and geniuses of humanity were quite often religious. It always amazes me that women have no problem with just casually calling Nobel prize laureates 'lacking of critical thinking' while thinking of themselves as being 'smart' lol. That is why women should not be in charge of anything - lack of self-criticism and blind arrogance make horrible leaders. Women are in charge of dating and it's a shitshow - having you in charge of nuclear weapons would doom us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:09 AM
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What about them ? They are pierced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:03 AM
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Pig looking into stars is seeing only bright spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:28 AM
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Lesbians are overrepresented among feminists - that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:42 PM
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You do not understand. Whole western civilisation is Christianity, it's the core of this culture - no matter if you believe in metaphysical aspect or not, our morality and views are Christian. Borth Quran and Bible reflect the ancient culture - so it's obvious that you may find some things silly from perspective of xxi century. But this is the spiritual foundation of our knowledge. Without Bible and Quran - we wouldn't be able to make fun of dome parts if it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:31 PM
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Disney was antisemitic - no wonder tankies and feminist get along with it so well. Isn't it ironic that feminazi and nazi both hate Jews ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:27 PM
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Maybe - but aren't we all ? Some of us prefer virtue signalling though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:23 PM
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Some want sex, some want you as a real partner, some consider you good looking without sleazy thoughts. You know that. If this would be taken from you and you will become invisible - you wouldnt like it. Because there would be no choice - everyone would consider you disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:21 PM
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Abrahamic religions are complex philosophical systems inspired by works of ancient philosophers and later developed by greatest thinkers of humanity like Thomas Aquinas. Meanwhile new age is about selling some painted stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:18 PM
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More options to date, take compliments from - whatever you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:14 PM
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Having more options is a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:12 PM
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I've misspelled 'Wahhabism'. Thank you good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:09 PM
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I've had girlfriends that I wasn't plan to take seriously - I wouldn't call it a fwb, maybe a bit insincere ltr ? Anyway - not a big loss for them nor a big win for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:02 PM
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Yes it's true - modern women do not have much worth as potential partners, that is why you youngsters should never love them. You can pretend love - but never truly give them any emotion. Your real heart is only for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:53 PM
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What are the real wins of Me Too apart of some grandpas put behind the bars ? Nothing - meanwhile we are taking abortion rights from them and it is a real win. The more they push us the more radical right we need to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:49 PM
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You've almost succeeded in this task, but there is a resistance. Feminists wanted to turn the west into left wing wahabbism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:46 PM
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Yes - but I've found one. Other women were just placeholders, nice to have fun eith but not the kind of girl you'd like to show to your parents or have children with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:42 PM
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Why men should do that ? You can pretend that you care and have regular sex, it's not hard to do. They wouldn't get that they are not really loved nor even liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:40 PM
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Waiting until women en masse will mature emotionally does not make sense - this will not happen. It's better to accept the little they have to offer and develop our own real lives outside of relationship, just as our grandfathers did. They didn't complain on loneliness. Men these days are overreliant on women, this must be stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:36 PM
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Well - feminists want to cuck men and turn them into weak, depressed morons - so they gaslight them with false advice: "oh you should show your emotions", "be more friendly", "women love sensitive men" etc. It's obvious that someone that builds it's life philosophy on hating you will advise you to disarm. Real advice is not really politically correct - we are not born equal in romantic context, there is a very strict hierarchy based primarily on our appearance that is applicable to both men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:23 PM
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Sure: - mental illness - depression, daddy issues, going to therapy etc. is a red flag - bisexual - feminist - into "spirituality" - i don't mind serious religions like christianity, islam, judaism, but new age bullshit, power of crystals etc. is a sign of serious brain damage. Maybe lack of oxygen during birth ? - recreational drugs - cigarettes and vaping - left-wing, communist, tankie - tattoos - piercings - jobless - ever had fwb, situationship, 'it's complicated', hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:43 PM
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It's not a new nor female thing. I was doing the same, many guys i know do the same - I was going on dates to check if i still have it. If i've seen that girl is seriously interested i wasn't following, it was enough to be reassured that options are there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:37 PM
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This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:54 PM
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I do not know a single happy person raised by single mother. But I need to admit that it's mainly their fathers fault - women know shit about men, so their choices are made by rolling the dice and hoping for good outcome. Some women are just unlucky - but can we blame them ? They are not raised among men so they are unable to spot a red flag, they can see poor haircut or unfashionable clothes, but this is their limit. They are unable to judge personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:10 PM
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They are waving with giant red flag in front of their eyes, some of them even try to poke their eyes with a flag pole and these women are still claiming that "oh, he was hiding so well that he is violent and lazy" lol. Women are masters of self-sabotage and are avoiding accountability at all cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:02 PM
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Dating apps have unsustainable business model. The asumption is that average male user will be spending lots of time and money - but if this user is about to stay for long, he has to receive negative feedback all the time, and people are not willing to pay for being bashed online. Old dating apps were trivial browsers with symbolic fees and in some countries it was just some side function of other site.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:07 PM
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Yes the real goal is consumption as I've stated before. There is nothing more - we call it 'market economy'. Sometimes the need for increased productivity brings societal changes - like when women became more useful than just popping kids, they've got same rights as men. But in countries where their work is not needed(like oil kingdoms) - they do not get much rights, or even their rights can be reversed like in Iran. It does not regard only women - peasants became recognized as real humans only …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:21 AM
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I've spent my youth in a town where majority of males have been always working abroad. There were plenty of couples where woman was quite hot and guy looked like being 50 while being 30 - hard work and alcohol to heal the muscle pain did their job. These women have seen these guys as walking ATM - nothing more, there were even movies where this motive have been presented in the very exact way as i've seen it as a young man. Plenty of these women have been cheating on these guys - my neighbor(ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 07:14 AM
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What will happen if there is a group of weak people and group of strong people next to each other ? Ukraine happens, Rwanda happens, Bosnia happens. If someone is stronger and can get away with killing you and taking your possesions, it will happen. Human nature doesn't give a f. if you consider it enslaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:32 AM
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Using bigger number of words to express the meaning of 'productivity' doesn't make you sound smarter. I know what productivity means, you ask i answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:06 PM
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To increase productivity. Infrastructure is a mean of production.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:54 PM
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Higher consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:32 PM
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Nope. It's just feminist dialectic - what makes men weak is 'healthy' what makes them strong is 'toxic,'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:13 PM
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Increasing productivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:04 PM
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We need strong men and not some cucks gaslit by therapist and other scammers to think that crying and being vulnerable makes you valuable. World admires strength and vitality - nothing changed and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:07 PM
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It obviously untrue - birth rates are highest among ultra conservatives and lowest in biggest cities which tend to be leftist. Nature is ruthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:36 PM
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People with poor genes are prone to leftist and radfem propaganda so they are sedating themselves with ssri and subscribe to movements like 4B - therefore they purify the genepool by checking out voluntarily. No need for financial incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:35 PM
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Ofc - how can I forget that even in ADHD women are facing discrimination. Seems that only extermination of males can make women feel that they have it as bad as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:57 AM
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Ok simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:47 AM
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scrap art and humanities to bare minimum push harder for math and science stop financing humanities and arts majors, it's hobby not relevant to economy focus on addressing speech development and reading problems in preschool and early school education focus on early diagnosis and therapy of adhd and sensoric integration issues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:55 AM
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Sure - let's exclude working class men from being fathers. Fantastic idea - much better than adjusting education system to fulfill boys needs better. Like left wing solution for car accidents - lets ban cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:37 AM
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Yes - but we see women working at receptions, as a teachers, secretaries and in general non-demanding service jobs, quite often not really full-time. Meanwhile majority of construction workers, truck drivers, machine operators are men - there is where working class is making real money. Boys from upper-middle class families are doing fine, their fathers have more time and resources to make them succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:23 AM
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Because they cannot be in 3 person at once. Men are still expected to be providers - so it means more physically demanding jobs and longer hours. Women are supposed to do the nurturing - but they fail miserably. Why is this happening ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:06 AM
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There you go. Boys are socialized mainly by their mothers and female teachers to behave in a way that is lowering their chance for academic success. It's an systemic issue - and it can be solved but there is very little interest in doing it since we are at the point of cherishing the ideal of 'girl boss' and circlejerk of women being so happy that they are finally better than men. Btw - if we would cut off all these humanities bs taught only to produce new humanities teachers - the outcomes of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:52 AM
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No i don't have an answer. Please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:34 AM
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I asked you a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:33 AM
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Why then in some countries boys perform as good as girls ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:31 AM
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Yup - if you design system to give advantage to girls, then no surprise girls are performing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:28 AM
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Whenever we see the online discussion about boys falling behind in education - there is always some "teacher" claiming that she is spending "90% of her time trying to calm down the boys", and that basically nothing can be done. Meanwhile in Germany such gender gap is almost non-existent while for some reason in most feminist Sweden it's huge and growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:59 AM
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You've built quite a nice strawman above. I'm just trying to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:32 PM
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So if someone considering a woman as attractive is commiting a worst crime that can be done, turning life of yhis women into a nightmare - then why women are risking their lives and spending thousands of euros in shady turkish plastic surgery clinics to get a boob/nose/whatever job ? Is it sort of masochism ? Doing everything to experience even more horror from men ? Or maybe they simply enjoy attention and do not have this short circuit in their head linking interest and compliments with "mastu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:25 PM
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I know 3 extremely attractive women and 1 guy. They look like supermodels - girls are working as hostess selling vaping stuff at various events. They get hit on sometimes by various weirdos - but they can easily save for new Porsche in a few months. So basically only inconvenience due to proffession - they don't complain, they rather make fun of these dudes. Guy is not really able to make money out of his looks - so he is an Uber driver and doing some petty crime. Only perk is that he can bang s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:16 PM
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Omg it's bs beyond imagination. Guy thinks that you look good and you think about 'masturbating with your body'. I blame porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:48 PM
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It is a benefit ofc - we are not talking about having more trash in the garage or about having more stomach ulceris but about being considered attractive. You can gaslight as much as you can - but everyone loves validation, fashion and beauty industry is huge for a reason. Doesn't matter that you don't want to even touch these people - they find you attractive and it's an ego boost. Teenage girls attempt suicide because of their looks and lack of acceptance and you are trying to convince us that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:17 PM
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True - women seem to have similar opinion, yet somehow still everyone are not happy. Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:29 PM
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Yet it's still more than they get from women (unless we count complaining as added value).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:55 PM
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Nope - i just enjoy referring to most popular "support sub" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:35 PM
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According to r/TwoX it's not even close to bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:51 AM
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It means expecting things that she would not spent a single dollar earned by herself. I've heard the talk of two girls in a train - one was thinking if she should accept offer of trip to NYC(it's quite expensive to travel from EU) and second said that "you're so pretty - you deserve that".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:42 AM
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Yeah - but this means that men overall are living less healthy lifestyle, especially the unmarried group seems to be lagging behind women in both mental health and physical health which leads to conclusion that there is probably more women than men eligible to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:28 AM
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I believe racism is about considering some races inferior to other, while not feeling attraction to people of certain race is pretty much just aesthetic preference. Like some people do not like red hair or bald guys - I do not feel discriminated because some women do not want to date bald people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:45 AM
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There is a grain of truth in what you are saying - but rather on macro scale. Women tend to talk a lot about patriarchy and it's negative effects - however they tend to gravitate towards places where upper tiers of men are more present(big cities) and are more likely to buy 'progressive' narratives virtue signalled to them by men who actually benefit from patriarchy, while heavily criticising those who are victims of this system(blue collar, low paid, abused men). This criticism is usually in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:35 PM
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Tbh I hang out with other dads from my work and I'd say that share of labor done by them is quite big, sometimes bigger than women since majority of us work from home and women work at the office/school/hospital/hotel etc. And it's not really just talk - they really do know all the best local doctors, places to go out with children, they were doing all this stuff with bathing, getting up at night to prepare formula and feed with bottle, change diapers, lose sleep observing fever etc. It's hard t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:35 AM
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Yes - it's a bit exaggeration from my side, but I receive it rather as a very brief periods of looking in the eyes and the discomfort that it is causing in ND people is visible. For me it's ok - I understand why ND are doing it, but I've met people who felt that this is rude, insincere, weird, sometimes they start to feel tension etc. Probably learning how to deal with ND people might be useful - for me dealing with my mom was painful. A bit like living with alien species.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:31 PM
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Autistic people do not look in the eyes at all and there is an impression that they disregard you or are not interested. I am spending lot of time with guys on the verge of spectrum or aspies, my mom is aspie as well so I don't really mind, but people not socialized to deal with neurodivergent might get uncanny feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:04 PM
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Do you really think people will watch movies about normal people doing every day things? Well - European movie industry is about normal people doing everyday things, that is why it never reached commercial success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:59 AM
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Let's even take most popular TV shows/movies featuring women as an example or let's take pop culture icons: Sex And The City - girls are chasing wealthy and handsome NYC guys Desperate Housewives - all women have wealthy and handsome partners/husbands and hottest guy is Mike Delfino who is... hot af. Twilight - Bella fell in love with Edward Cullen who is... surprise, surprise - hot Girls - Hannah(who is far from being hottie) is in casual relationship with Adam, who is very tall and can be cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:53 AM
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Tbh - what redpillers present as bluepill is rather a set of their own naive views that they should abandon at the age of 12 and instead they realize how the things are at 25 and become disappointed that dating is pretty harsh for men and that no one told them these obvious things that it's mainly about looks. This disappointment leads to bitterness towards women - and tbh i can understand them, it's hard to like the group that is rejecting you constantly, but on the other hand - they quite ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:50 AM
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In a perfect world that would be true. But in reality people rarely offer these things to each other and do not really care about them - women want a man to show off - handsome, making money etc. , guys want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:26 AM
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Guy respected her but he doesn't want to be a cuck - since cuck is the lowest form of existence known to humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:11 AM
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Apart from my wife I do not have much in common with women my age - I get along pretty well with women in their early 30s late 20s but 40+ - not really. They are boring, non-active, complain all the time, watch some tv shit for retired people and mainly sit at home. Their main hobby is losing weight and gossiping. My mom is more open-minded, have more hobbies and is way more positive than them. Idk why this generation is so lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:27 PM
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Free market - once girls realized that guys attend these classes to meet new people - they've stopped attending them. So now you have to bring your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:48 AM
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In my town single guys are no longer allowed to attend dancing classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:11 AM
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True - dancing can increase your attractiveness, but is it worth it ? I've met a girl once who wanted me to learn how to dance - it was important to her, I've ghosted her. If you really dislike something - it's not really worth to do it for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:05 AM
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It's more about similar intellectual level or lifestyle expectations than income per se imo. Surgeon can get married to teacher - no problem with that and there is plenty if such couples. But surgeon+high school girl only - not really, i know such couple and this guy looks down on his partner(they have a teenage child together but he didn't propose and will not do it), and she doesn't have access to his money - he is giving her some monthly allowance and thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:50 AM
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Nina Simone - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood, though my favourite version is by The Animals. Elvis - You Were Always On My Mind
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:38 PM
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Your example is exaggerated and not really true for couples that are doing good. But ofc everyday life is not the dating stage and it cannot be like that forever - especially that women are no saints and quite often turn into grumpy old women after some time. The key is compatibility - if both people like the same things and have similar lifestyle, then it will work long term. If guy is just doing demo version and girl is into 'demo version guys', then it will fall apart. People are in general n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:23 PM
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"The chase is better than the catch..." - Scooter
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:05 PM
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I can only comment that it's a shame that football is not popular in Europe. This sport is so cool, it should be promoted outside US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:05 AM
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I know such couples - usually woman is from some shithole part of town but she's pretty, and guy is wealthy but ie. very short or in general ugly. These marriages are extremely transactional - guy is getting sex in small drops, but he has to pay for it with expensive clothes, bags, car etc. I know a couple where guy is a Chad but he is just a low-paid teacher, and woman is ok but she is very wealthy and is a surgeon - they are now divorcing, she found a mid-looking surgeon. People have to be com…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:23 AM
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It's also used in internet gambling/gaming which is focused on men. You get rewards at the beginning to drag you in, and once you start losing interest to keep you in. You've probably noticed it in casual shooters like SW Battlfront that you're doing well at the beginning and then its getting harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:08 AM
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I've been rather recipient of complaints when I was in my early 20s. Basically only 1 guy had problems like this - he was not really too good looking(though very tall) nor had money but he was hitting on very pretty and very shallow girls. I've told him that he should lower the bar regarding looks and should have higher standards regarding personality. It took him 6 years to follow my advice. Previously he was disregarding my opinion saying that I have it easy because I am good looking and I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:02 PM
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True - especially at younger age guys have 'placeholder girlfriends', to gain some experience, maybe have sex etc. but it is quite clear from the beginning that it won't be serious, though I think girls also have these placeholder boyfriends. We are more driven by curiosity than by actual romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:26 PM
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Quite a lot of this "emotional labor" is redundant and matters only to the woman performing it, if this labor would be omitted most likely no one would notice. However there is a fair share of work that is necessary and is planned mainly by women. I think it is because woman is usually staying with kids for some time after they are born, so she has to learn how to manage raising children, plan things, schedule appointments and it stays like this after she goes back to work. It stays like this be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:43 PM
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Yup - but discussion about the problem of men being objectified is quite new and faces strong backlash. Bell Hooks is prominent among intellectual feminists(not all of them) - but mainstream tik-tok feminism puts everyone talking about challenges of men to 'incel' or Jordan Peterson basket. The irony is that probably no one did more good(and bad) to men in general as incels and Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:11 AM
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Not every ask has base. Quite often it's just opportunism - well educated feminists fighting for career shortcuts are privileged group anyway. They just have to climb the ladder like everyone else and they don't like it - so they jump on the train along with single mothers or blue collar women doing underpaid jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:05 AM
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We can apply the same view towards men. Men are objectified because they are reduced to services and work they can provide, so their primary view of themselves is based solely on the quality of the work they are providing, so men are considered rather as a walking means of production than as human beings. Men are refused the right to express feelings and the right to be not functioning - it is because tools are not allowed to be broken, broken tools are thrown away, so are broken men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:46 AM
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There is no single definition of feminism. You can call any action done in favor of women a 'feminism'. In many cases feminism is a just regular lobbying - like affirmative actions in different industries. It has nothing to do with 'women are people'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:37 AM
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I'm not sure if guys who are donating their sperm are actually creme de la creme of society lol. It's creepy af - but after all, few weirdos more won't make much difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:45 PM
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Korea is pretty complex case - it is much more than just "not willing to deal with men". First thing might be Korea being ultra-competitive society - people do not really have much time for dating and old ways of semi-arranged marriages do not really fit modern times. Because of ultra-competitive society - having children at young age might ruin your career - business owners in Korea do not give a f..k about birth rates, they want women who are ready to give 150% - they will pay, but expect full…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:45 AM
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Isn't it like all these guys were mentally ill since childhood ? It's very far fetched conclusion that lack of woman is leading towards suicide and mass shootings. Married men have less chance of commiting suicide - though they may be single because they are mentally unstable in general, or closeted gay which is also very important factor of male suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:16 AM
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It's easy - i know a guy who was thrown away from home by his gf because he was a drunk and he hit her while she was pregnant. Everyone knew it and local girls were happy that he is single again. There is a huge group of women that is shallow to the point of absurd, like they do not have brains at all. But the smarter and top-looking girls are way harder to impress. Looks alone may help, but it's not enough. I've seen Chads being dumped for short or average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:53 AM
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Actually teen girls seem to be more affected - teenage depression is more prevalent among girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:39 PM
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Good question. Both sides usually care about their own needs the most - but women tend to not communicate their needs, they expect that men will somehow 'guess' and then they become pissed and bitter if the correct guessing is not happening. Women should be more humble about their faith in own 'emotional intelligence', majority of women sucks with communicating with opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:26 PM
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This is not true at all. Of course that teenage boys have regular conversations - we've been talking about everything: our crushes, some gossip, music, plans for the future, school, things happening at home, hobbies, music, weekend parties etc. and we've been talking with girls as well. There was a whole big group hanging out together - our circle was probably around 50-60 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:30 PM
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I've had the opportunity to observe/talk to students for some time. Yes - lookism is the thing, though absurd standards are applied to both genders, second, much bigger, problem is horrible lack of social skills(both genders) - they are either not speaking at all, or they shorten the distance too fast, they cannot wait until one person will stop talking, some of them use online language irl. The 'not speaking' is very evident - they can stand next to each other for 1h and not say a word. 20 youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:39 AM
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Ok - looks like I've compensated with extreme disagreeableness, alcohol consumption, smoking pot, truancy and being arrested once.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:46 PM
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My job is to be a 'bridge' between very smart guys and managers so i'm dealing with smart people quite a lot. I've noticed that being extremely smart almost always comes at a cost. These guys/girls are very often nervous, shy, they stutter - some of them suffer from depression. It's good to be smart enough to understand what is going on - but this real spark that allows you to be creative in science/math/it is not worth the cost imo. Regarding your original question - it wouldn't change much - p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:34 PM
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I do not know the details of law in US, but in my country if you are practicing martial arts/boxing or you have disproportionate physical strength - your assault might be considered as assault using weapon. No matter if you attack man or woman, and this means that instead of 6 months you may spend up to 10 years in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:08 PM
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It's the same with martial arts or boxing - there is always some psycho who is practicing to be able to beat someone, not because he want to defend himself, but to just break someone bones for fun/adrenaline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:59 PM
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I think that deep inside people see the red flags, but they make conscious decision to ignore them. If you will read how women on reddit describe their partners - you may think that all of them are dating superheroes who were born to fulfill their emotional needs, and they are on different planet comparing to other guys because they are simply perfect. The thing is that 90% of this person is made-up, they are just regular guys and many of them will turn out to be regular assholes. Good-looking b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:10 AM
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If you look good, (not even Chad - just in cute category) the personality bar is on the floor. Really - everyone expects that you are a shallow asshole, if you are not then there is magic sentence - "i didn't expect that you're actually nice and fun to talk to".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:50 AM
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I have limited experience working with Chinese people so i might be wrong with my observations - but i think that general societal rules in chinese society are more stable and are quite similar for everyone, it probably makes it easier for ND guys to develop coping strategy, you know what to expect and how to act to be accepted. West is different - rules are changing constantly, they are quite often very vague, they depend on context a lot. For example being wealthy and having nice things is a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:02 AM
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I do not care that much about looks, but I care about ambition and having actual own thoughts, real personality is important - not parroting some unhinged left-wing or right-wing bs. I've met maybe 4 women in my life that were like that, other were NPCs - pretty face, high self-esteem and not much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:20 PM
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Children are selfish, arrogant, they exploit every weakness they see, they lie, they exclude, they intrigue to achieve their goals, they will say to you "I love you the most" if they want something, they quickly realize that they look good and can capitalize on it. I have a 5 yo - he is adorable, but he is an a**hole and his best friends(both girls and boys) are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:15 AM
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Whether I agree with pushing boys to excel academically, do sport and learn to dance/play instrument - then I disagree in giving them fashion advice or running the Ig account. It is changing really fast what is cool - you can give them money to buy nice clothes or gadgets and some freedom to socialize and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:21 AM
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Yup - my wife has the same struggle, you may be having insulin resistance - it's worth to check if you haven't done it already. It's hard to tackle eating disorders without proffesional help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:50 AM
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It's not difficult only for you but for 90% of population - if this would be so easy there wouldn't be that many problems with obesity, cardiovascular diseases, cancer, lack of exercise. Plenty of people smoke, westeners drink insane amounts of alcohol not to mention doing drugs or eating NSAIDs(Ibuprofen) like candies. That is why looks is so much valued - it's hard to be really consisent in keeping yourself in a good shape. And once you turn 40 either you have ascethic lifestyle or you age lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:44 AM
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In the west and even in communist countries women have a choice since the 1970s. Some of them choose the comfort of being sahm instead of compatibility and now they complain that they were forced somehow. No ma'am - you've had opportunity to live a humble life alone. Even today I know divorced women complaining that it's "so hard for a woman to live alone" so they need to get a guy with good income.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:57 AM
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Sometimes I have an impression that women ranting about women being forced to have kids truly believe that women in the 90s were forced to get married and have them lol. Most hilarious part is when they say that women have choice for last 20 years. Like they think 1990s were in 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:44 AM
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People close to 40 are not stable - evolution of human personality looks like this: 20 yo - naive, nice, focused on feelings, childish and idealistic 30 - prime time, mature but still has it's morals and values 40 - welcome to the boomer asshole zone. There is a reason why politicans succeed when they are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:25 AM
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I've got only one advice from my parents regarding dating - that it is in a very bad taste to waste girl's time if i do not plan to be serious. I do not plan do give my son any advice - but i also consider pretending to be serious a really bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:52 PM
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I wouldn't be so pessimistic - in general there is a lot of good people, but it's a fact that men are getting way more cautious with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:27 PM
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What if acquaintances are boring or incompatible ? or there no one single around ? Maybe a stranger might be more interesting ? if you start going to university or you start a new job everyone is a stranger - why it is so bad to approach someone and start talking ? Men are making the first move because someone has to do it, nature decided that it's on us - it has nothing to do with being focused on looks or personality. No man in his right mind disregards personality or considers it unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:23 PM
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Women care as much about compatibility as they do sexual attraction, so they tend to approach men they are already acquainted with. You know, men they actually already like and know they share common interests and values with. According to what you wrote previously women cannot share the same values with men, because men do not care about personality. So how can you share the same values with someone that doesn't care who you are ? Or maybe some magic happens and suddenly a man that you know sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:01 PM
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Oh they get. I have a friend who could be considered Brad Pitt's brother, though girls were saying that he was the more handsome brother. But his major flaw was that he was crazy stupid - like his first question when he visited our dorm room was: "how do you guys jerk off here ?" and it wasn't ironic. He was a funny guy - but not in the way women like it. He was obsessed with losing virginity and finally he banged some drunk women in her 50s when he was well over 20 - no girl our age wanted to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:50 PM
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I am not doing any WT here - I am totally aware that plenty of women here are very tempted to apply some collective responsibility or to seek justice for sins of our grandfathers. We are all full of weakness and errors; let us mutually pardon each other our follies - it is the first law of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:40 PM
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I wouldn't say that women are particularly more prone to wishful thinking - men are also ready to spent their money to live in illusion that they might have a chance with very attractive women. Men pay with cash, women pay with their bodies - but the scale is rather miniscule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:26 PM
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By complete stranger it is not really possible - but I was approached at weddings and house parties quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:56 AM
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It’s irrelevant to men because men don’t care who women are, only what women look like. You imply that men in general are brainless animals thinking about sex only. Contrary to women ofc. How then compatibility is even possible since women care about compatibility and men are brainless ? Are women compatible with brainless creatures thinking about looks only ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:51 AM
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Well - I do not think that all women are OF girls or sex workers - they are outliers that do not count, so are the guys acting in weird way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:40 AM
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I don't think that women approach in the Balkans or Greece either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:37 AM
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Well I wouldn't count them as 'men' - guys making disrespectful advances are just regular nutjobs. But if we will stick to normal people - the ones that behave well, I guess we know exactly where we may have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:34 AM
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I don't think there will be any lowering of standards - it would be the same as it is for men, high standards for personality and adjusted standards for looks. It's hard for me to imagine that women would like to be in position of openly competing irl for best looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:30 AM
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It depends on where do you live. If you live in liberal city with surplus of women - men will be approached, in conservative places with surplus of men - no chance. I think some people described here NYC as a really shitty place to date for women, because of large surplus of young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:18 AM
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It wouldn't make much difference - in real life men are not approaching girls above their league because it's pointless and being clueless about own attractiveness might impact you negatively, so women will most likely act the same unless they will find some joy in regular rejections and being considered a naive weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:12 AM
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This a poisonous rhetoric that is widely utilized by populists. I've heard tons of the shit ie.: "nazism is in the German nature", "feeling of superiority is engrained in German culture", "imprerialism is natural for Germany". This is just prejudice, women gained their rights because technology unlocked their potential as employees and allowed them to control when they get pregnant. Biological advantage of men have disappeared so women could get rid of unfavorable law. Now we are in interesting …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:40 AM
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Good take. However I think that we discuss oppression too much since oppression is a convenient tool in making current politics. Actual oppressors are usually dead, no justice can reach them - so the resentment is directed towards thise who resemble them the most if there is something to be won using this card. In my country people are still playing IIWW card against Germany, even though nazism is long gone and there is handful of nazis still alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:37 AM
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Empathy is universally a good thing, though talking about it all the time is quite often just empty virtue signalling. Empathy seem to vanish once own interest is impacted. In my country women were more supportive to immigration, but when war in Ukraine started and young women with children started coming here their sentiment turned very negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:21 AM
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It's a side note, but was once thinking about how celebrities or billionaires can tell if someone is really into them and not hunting for money/fame/status ? For example some famous actor is willing to date some nice teacher/nurse/lawyer, most of such women will refuse to not be considered gold diggers or will be suspicious that guy wants to bang them, some will refuse because they do not want to be in spotlight and probably only gold diggers or weirdos will be left. Basically they can date othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:59 PM
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I am working in IT - I'm a programmer but I'm usually in the roles of team leader or product owner, my job is to be bridge between nerds and normies lol and to shield them from various shitstorms. This industry seems to be having high representation of guys struggling with romantic issues complaining online, though irl majority if guys is rather doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:47 AM
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Bragging about your job/money or posessions/investments is extremely off-putting and it's an example of poor selling skills. Other thing is lack of care about looks - it takes some effort to buy fitting clothes that are at least a bit fashionable, have matching colors etc. Many guys do not even know how to properly iron their shirt lol. Some guys do not visit hairdresser regularly. Last thing is that some guys lack the practice in talking with people, they are either too loud and are talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:09 AM
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This is a valid explanation, but why so many people report loneliness then ? Especially in this age range ? If dating is not a prio then loneliness should not be a problem - yet it seems to be quite big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:21 PM
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I am afraid that guys that you are referring to - do not really have a problem with being patriarchal, non-supportive and non-sensitive to their partners, because their adventure in the world of dating ends with 'swipe left'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:11 PM
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I am not into feminine women - I prefer butch type but with good heart and general caring attitude, so close to B. All my gfs were like that(one was bi, her previous partner was a woman) and my wife is like that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:40 PM
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I wonder tho what are the main reasons ? I'd guess that for women it's being picky, for guys it's being mid/below with poor selling skills or missing the boat when less picky girls were still available.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:54 PM
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My wife was asking me the same question when i was telling her about how dating in my 20s looked like before I met her. Then she started working at the office where 90% were women - and she said that now she believes me. But to be serious - probably majority of women is rather down to earth, but they disappear from the 'market' really fast. The pool that is permanently single is single for a reason - so many guys just happen to meet them via dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:11 AM
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Yup - my dad's colleague was killed this way. He told guy to move his car on a parking lot, guy was a semi-pro kickboxer, he punched him once and it was enough. Just like that - two words too much and you're gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:07 PM
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I would do something that I am not able to do since 15 years. I would go to hairstylist and choose the haircut that I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:05 PM
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Starting fights or arguments as a man is way more risky. Women are usually not taken as seriously as men are, so the risk of things going violent is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:44 PM
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The main problem here is providing these goddamn women with too many options - i propose following solutions: creating of religion where simping will be deadliest of the sins and everyone will go straight to hell for that. In this hell the main punishment will be eternal cuckoldry adding estrogen to food in large quantities to reduce temptation for simping training young boys to swipe left, every male child will get a phone with dating app installed and will have to learn how to constantly swipe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:47 PM
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Majority of Slavic countries is in EU so moving to US/Canada is not really an upgrade of any kind - it means that you have to compete in the same way as in US. Girls here are looking for handsome and tall guys - and average height of young people in Slavic countries is similar to Nordic countries or in case of Croatia/Serbia it's well over 6' - Croatia is basically a Chad spawner. If you do not have any luck in US, you won't have it here either. I do not know about Russia, but Russians that I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:04 AM
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Social-democracy is not in contradiction with middle-class lifestyle. I'd say that having strong middle class is possible only in social-democratic country.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:20 AM
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No it is not. Sex is merely a sport activity for men - only reason why more men are not regular clients of sex workers is the social stigma, risk of stds and risk of being robbed/killed/injured. Without these factors it would be way more widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:55 AM
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Women have the same Pikachu Face when they discover that all this emotional connection and love existed only in their imagination and it was only about sex all along. Some women are masters of self-delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:48 AM
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I think that modern make-up, haircuts, fillers+botox, and clothes make women look better - but if you will roll-back to the 90s, there is not much of a difference. I have my old photos from HS - in our school it was forbidden for girls to wear make-up, paint nails or wear revealing clothes. Everyone looks equally bland and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:52 AM
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By bluepillness is in opposition to RP weirdness -> Chads, Stacies, N-counts, virginity obsession, manipulation techniques, misogyny, casual sex obsession, anti-feminism, PUA delulu, shitting on western women, PassportBro, anti-marriage, old-times obsession etc. But I do have my own observations so I am simply sharing them here. They may align with some RP stuff, but overall I am considering RP as something misogynistic, demoralising for young men and encouraging to treat women not as potential …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:29 AM
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I preferred women with similar views as mine: pro-choice non-religious supporting LGBTQ equality in household chores, raising children not SAHM want to get married want children(2 or 3) not into any hookups, fwb, situationships - just sex with long-term partner wants typical middle class lifestyle - house, garden, car, vacation, weekend trips with family not into social darwinism, but also not into some left-wing delulu of anarchy, kibbutz-like communes etc., just regular social-democratic views…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:28 AM
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Fuckin'-A
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:14 AM
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I've made a small observation last weekend while walking with my son in a local park. Couples in their 20s look pretty much like every girl is dating slightly different version of the same guy. All guys were 185-190cm tall, slim, same clothes, and even the haircut was the same. Girls were more varied, some short, some bit taller, some bit chubby - overall nice looking but rather normal for that age. Another interesting phenomenon were nerds - usually it looks like 5-6 nerds for 1 girl, she is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:22 AM
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When i think about Plain Jane i mean Greta Gerwig or Amy Schumer type, not Margot Robbie. And Plain Janes of yhis world want to be loved(as we all do) - but they want their partner to be a bit more or much more. Since there is not enough such guys - they prefer to stay single, the tastes of men and women are quite uniform, there is very little variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:25 PM
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Women wearing pants is just a fashion choice - it's not denying of gender role at all - women wearing pants are still feminine, better example would be butch lesbians - they are really looking and acting masculine and their looks or behavior are not bringing them any additional respect. Quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:07 PM
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Interesting choice of words - broke man have to interesting and hot to be desirable, while millionaire have to be boring and ugly to be undesirable. What if both are the same in looks and being interesting ? Which one is better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:59 PM
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You do not have to do more work if you earn less - there is no such law. Usually if 2 people spend the same number of hours at work they also do similar housework. But it is socially acceptable and desired for a man to earn more so women are taking advantage of this arrangement - if men would be having similar opportunity they would use it as well. People in general are lazy and like money - why refuse if someone is bringing more money ? In China there is a requirement that man should buy a flat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:24 PM
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It's nowhere near broken. There is even number of couples where woman is better educated and where man is better educated - if we take into account vast(and growing) gender gap regarding education, we still have a big and growing group of women who refuse do marry down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:16 PM
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People value different things and should not be judged about it. I do not see why personality should be worth more than money or looks ? Majority of people do not value personality traits at all - we respect and feel attraction to people who are beautiful, strong, healthy and can make a good living. You can be perfectly happy if your main source of attraction to your partner is his looks or social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:48 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:40 AM
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Actually this guy was probably kindest guy I've ever met - but he was not bullshitting us that it is enough to be a kind and understanding person. It is not - and every young man need to understand that all these so called 'superficial' boxes need to be ticked, we can try hard to pretend that gender norms are the thing of the past but they are not. Men need to conform to both old and new expectations and not be bitter about it. It's not that hard but definitely harder than it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:59 AM
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Disagree on this, plenty of women go for an attractive looking face. When it is attached to the body of the correct height. Nowadays Tom Cruise is a laughing stock because of his height and people make fun that he used to be a sex symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:06 AM
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Sure I am also doing cleaning and cooking(actually I do majority of household chores since I am working remotely) - but I also make way more than my wife. You cannot escape these norms - boys need to learn from young age that this is still the norm(plus doing stuff around the house and raising kids) and no left-wing gaslighting will ever change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:20 AM
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My blue pill views are about rejection of misogyny, manipulation, casual sex seeking and all this weird PUA stuff that grifters like Andrew Tate are spreading. But I am not blind to reality - traditional cultural/biological norms regarding mate selection are actually even reinforced nowadays - I do not consider them as a "moral flaw' of women, it's just the way it is. Women improved themselves so they expect that men will improve themselves even more - but (some)men struggle to adjust to modern …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:57 AM
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Some women definitely want to be independent and don't care if their husband is less proficient in making money, but can you say with confidence that this is a general view ? I doubt it. Women want to be independent and have a partner who is a bit 'better', they want to admire him - and it's really hard to admire someone who is less than you in most masculine thing ever - earning money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:48 AM
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His master replied, ‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:37 AM
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Show me paragraph about "submissive servants" in my post ? I am not into this unhinged RP/Passport Bro misogynistic bs about submissive wives and "spoiled western women" - I am just saying that cultural norm of a man being able to make more money, be more educated, taller and stronger is "The Norm" and will be with us forever. I know successful female business owners - yes, they stay with their husbands because it's convenient for them - but they always look down on them a bit. They would prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:30 AM
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People don't love money - but people despise those without money, and no girl ever want her partner to be considered a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:22 AM
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Yes - reddit is full of women or people pretending to be women that claim that there is nothing more sexy than a short, long haired skinny autistic nerd who is an expert in D&D and comic books and just make enough to make a living plus is a great emotional support because of his love to animals and beacuse of being vegan since 6th grade, these girls are also bisexual and offering casual threesomes to these guys. But let's go back to the real world - in the real world, plain Jane and Stacy or wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:21 AM
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In my whole life I've got one good advice from an older man regarding romantic relations. My lecturer at university told us that if we want our wives to love us and to have a stable family life - we need to outearn them as much as possible. My female friend only whispered to me that he is so right. Gender roles are here to stay forever - if anything, standards can only go up for men since women are making more money and expect men to look better. That's all folks - improve or make peace with bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:46 AM
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Nope - I do not label myself according to femcel nomenclature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:44 PM
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In polish context it looks like this(though it is a rare arrangement nowadays): Woman stays at home and takes care of children, does cooking etc. Man is expected to provide for family and maintain at least middle class living standard - this means: buy or build a house, buy a car, pay for vacation, nice clothes, gadgets etc. Usually it means that man have to run his own business and spend almost whole life at work. 10-15 years ago it was also achievable via emigration - but wage difference is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:10 AM
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Guy is metacuck - different level of cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:01 PM
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I think that only woke left feminist are discussing such things, it is pretty much in line with woke left agenda that effort and lack of effort should be rewarded equally. Woke left is 2018 thing, it's outdated and no one is taking it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:17 AM
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We do emotional labor every month until menopause happens, then it is every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:51 PM
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He was most likely mentally ill - it's a medical case, not general sociological phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:50 PM
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But women are economically independent since the 80s and the 90s was most likely the best time for them ever(in the west), since housing was more affordable back then and it was much easier to run single household.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:18 PM
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Btw - it's interesting that in US there is male loneliness epidemic - while in my country(PL) it seems that young women experience loneliness more(24%M, 38%F). Or maybe there is also female loneliness epidemic in US but it is discussed less ? Anyway - I blame social media and online gaming, "social" interactions online are dysfunctional and transactional, young people are exposed to antisocial behavior which leads to anxiety, withdrawal and even misanthropy. Internet is full of grifters, haters,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:18 AM
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Women do not need men to get by in society since at least the 80s - yet dating problems seems to start somewhere around 2010. It's not the feminism nor the independence imo, women had even better economic prospects in the 90s(like everyone else). Looks like social media and online gaming crippled social skills of both genders, anxiety skyrocketed for women since Instagram became the thing, and online gaming sucked in young men. Women are offered parasocial interactions online(Instagram, TikTok),…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:00 AM
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My personal observations: Attractive women get attention from guys every age. My wife is 38 and guys in their late 20s are interested to date her, my friend turned 37 last year and her fiance(!) is 28 yo, 6'2 Chad, she is not even that good-looking, but she is a very fit nerd, and the guy is the same type. I think that only thing that can make it hard for a woman is having mental health problems. This is a magnet for creeps and repellent for guys looking for serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:07 AM
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It's not true. In wealthier families young man was expected to continue with family business of his future wife. So a man without proven record of career was not considered a good candidate, girls also had some freedom of choice and could simply reject the guy which was happening quite often(yes - being ugly was totally valid reason). Men with poor morals - known for visiting prostitutes or drinking were also rejected. Also quite often handsome and smart men were pushed to marry wealthy but ugly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:49 AM
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I am working with people in their early 20s and I've noticed that young women rather have ok attention span and seem to be interested in conversation or going out for a lunch, or to meet after work. On the other hand young guys are sometimes less patient - they are more often scrolling their phones, they are less interested in going out and in overall socializing, but I wouldn't say it's very bad either, though the difference is visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:55 PM
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There also, like, isn’t really a fertility crisis. There’s an affordability crisis. People will have children if they can afford to do so and still afford a civilized housing situation and childcare. There are wealthy countries in Europe where housing and childcare are not a huge issue(Norway, Switzerland, Luxembourg) - yet birth rate is always somewhere around 1.4-1.6, that is well below replacement levels. Economic stability seems to be having effect up to 1.6 - above that is where cultural fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:28 AM
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Tbh I do not really care if you(or any other person) are happy or healthy with your choice, because it's simply not my concern. I will only make fun of you online if you will start complaining about:"where are all the good men/women women gone ?". World does not owe you a good(any) partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:42 AM
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Cheating or sexual fantasies are not an evidence of people being polyamorous by nature. If you don't believe tell your male friends to ask their wives for open relationship or to start hunting for some younger girl to fuck. Grab a popcorn and enjoy. You won't enjoy because these guys are most likely just normal healthy people not obsessed with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:18 PM
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I think that it is either a result of porn addiction or mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:48 PM
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Men would definitely like to sleep with many women - but women seem to have different opinion. And study that you are referring to is most likely a pseudoscience - very small sample and authors do not have too many other publications, look for something that was prepared by people from Oxford, Imperial College or any prestigious institution - everywhere you will find that most liekly we are monogamous since homo erectus.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:44 PM
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Yes for sure everyone is pretending, everything is enforced social norm and the world cannot wait to be saved by polyamorous people who will secure every man and woman with love, multiple orgasms and place in heaven right next to Jesus Christ himself /s Meanwhile in real world polyamory is still considered just another weird shit from tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:28 PM
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There is way more articles supporting the thesis of human ancestors being monogamous. Besides no wonder that marriages were recorded 4k years ago since writing was developed 5k years ago and people became literate on greater scale maybe 300 years ago lol. The reason is pretty simple - males of our species were always providing resources to offspring/ females and were always competing for females, it really hard to provide resources for 17(why exactly 17?) females and at the same time keep other …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:18 PM
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Well - once girls are no longer forced under death threat to become second or third wife of some guy the miracle happens and they choose monogamy. Polygamy exists en masse only when it's enforced on women - and even then some girls rather prefer to die than to be in such relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:55 PM
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The reason is that it's harder to force young girls to become second/third wife. This is the only reason - polygamy is either enforced or ceases to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:51 PM
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Nope - homo erectus was monogamous. History of monogamy in our species is around 2 million years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:49 PM
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homo erectus was present over 1.8 million years ago - evolution of mankind is not 'couple of thousand' years. Our societal constructs are like this for a reason - and this reason is our comfort and safety. There were plenty of experiments that were supposed to promote non-monogamy, be it Soviets, kibbutz, whatever and these always end up in the same way - fall back to monogamy. Only polyamorous communities, who are consistently polyamorous generation by generation are some religious cults who en…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:34 PM
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Yes - people seek adventures outside of marriage and they do it in secret because, surprise surprise, their partner is monogamous like almost every human being. And people who are divorced are getting into new monogamous relationship, or in case of women they very often stay single. Polyamory is a rare fetish - nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:14 PM
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Feminism is now interested in nurturing men ? This post is just regular complaining that men are bad. Old tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:32 PM
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We are not polyamorous - we evolved to be monogamous, polyamorous people were eliminated by evolution. There were experiments of raising children by community in various kibbutz - but they've fall back to nuclear families after some time. Probably the best setup is multigenerational family - but by no means polyamory is natural for humans lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:21 PM
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