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"Women aren't evil, because men do evil stuff." Nope. Both evil men and all women are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:34 AM
2

Empathy is the basis of morality. Women have no empathy and only care about themselves (hypergamy, solipsism, virtue signaling). Ergo, all women are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:02 AM
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If Hitler were alive today, he would be pround of women's mating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:50 AM
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Hawk Tuah sounds like a Mega Man X maverick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:34 AM
-2

Women reek of entitlememt. They aren't owed a blowjob-free job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:27 AM
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No one should have to tell you basic truths about how people make connections; assuming you're not an autist. Assumed wrong. Thanks for nothing normie, your society sucks shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:26 AM
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No. Women's lives are valued. Only successful men's lives are valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:24 AM
3

Women don't orgasm as often as men because most men are not Chad and most men don't want to rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:55 AM
-2

xD But seriously, nothing that's clearly obnoxious bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:51 AM
-1

Sounds like a gaggle of cowards. I hope they don't end up seeing their own shadow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:49 AM
5

Hot take : You're a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:27 AM
3

So true!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:57 AM
0

GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:32 AM
0

Not relevant, answer the question or GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:17 AM
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Not relevant, this is for personal reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:07 AM
2

Personal reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:57 AM
7

My biggest dream was to find someone and have a romantic relationship together. Now that the prospect seems like it won't happen, it brings me great suffering. Women say some combination of I don't suffer, I shouldn't suffer, or I deserve to suffer. Why should I not be a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:36 AM
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Women think fertility is an invention of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:46 PM
2

Why not both? Depends on the season.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:43 PM
1

You're the person society now wants to persecute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:42 PM
-1

Evil things happening to evil people is called justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:06 PM
2

wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:30 PM
-1

Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:23 PM
2

Proving my point. Being boyfriendless is a type of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:10 PM
2

You can't even understand your friend's loneliness you dolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:51 PM
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Women are biologically incapeable of understanding romantic loneliness in any case but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:20 PM
3

They only believe that for people they don't think are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:08 PM
5

The monophilosophy all humans agree with: Life is suffering. You deserve to suffer Me and my friends don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:57 PM
4

Its the part that matters the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:01 PM
3

Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:59 PM
-1

Her fault for not divorcing him when he turned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:47 PM
2

Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:40 PM
2

So you can tell me I'm lying about my experience? F off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:37 PM
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Female gaslighting. I was told it was more important than anything else. "Its all about your personality" is still a common thing said to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:30 PM
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I was told content of your character, its what on the inside that counts, and believed their lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:22 PM
0

It still means you are judged not on who you are, but what you appear to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:17 PM
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it's about how your movements makes you look it's not about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 07:07 PM
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"Just be an actor bro." And thus, PUA is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:56 PM
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"Its not how you look, but how your movement looks." Still comes down to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:37 PM
1

Because if you were actually able to BE Redpill, you would have never needed TRP in the first place. In the middle of all the fallacious reasoning, he slips out one big kernal of hinesty for why he really hates TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:33 PM
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You are too stupid to understand you are proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:26 PM
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The Red Pill. We are concerned with truth, you are concerned with superfiscal appearences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:03 PM
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Reeeeeealllly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:49 PM
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Straight from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:22 PM
0

If the latter is honest, honesty. Its a very hard concept for atheists to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:13 PM
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Are you denying the reliability of the personality detector? That's Black Pill BS bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:07 PM
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👋
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:06 PM
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I'll put a trigger warning up next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:57 PM
0

Women love evil masculine men more than good masculine men because they are evil themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:49 PM
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But not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:41 PM
-4

Neutral. Bad things are bad, but bad things happening to bad people are good. They cancel each other out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:38 PM
-3

Well she married him, so he must have had a really good personality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:25 PM
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You are a secularist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:12 PM
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Because I care about honesty regardless of how people feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:10 PM
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The implication only evil people have these temptations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:09 PM
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Then it appears I am right for saying secularists have no arguments or understanding of the world around them. Everyone agrees with me, they're just too spiteful to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:08 PM
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And I'd rather have people do something because they're honest rather than because they want to. Egoism vs Honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:05 PM
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"Sex doesn't make you happy, you're a sexist." "Money doesn't make you happy, you're a capitalist." "Belonging to people who look like you doesn't make you happy, you're a racist."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:03 PM
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This is essentially what most atheists believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:59 PM
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Waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:59 PM
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They are paid not to believe that. But among the lay people? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:58 PM
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Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:57 PM
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Not an argument. You sound like a secularist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:56 PM
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because it’s the right and kind thing to do AKA not because of drives, but because "He's just being a heckin good person, okay?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:55 PM
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Oh, they certainly can believe that. But they don't. Or rather, refuse to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:48 PM
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying secularists don't believe in emotional drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:47 PM
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According to the movie, Red Pillers are those that, when coming across the dark truth, choose to accept it. Blue Pillers are those who know it exists, but choose the lie for their own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:42 PM
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Christians, Buddhsts, and Muslims are all better evolutionary psychologists than secularists.Religions believe you have temptation, but can resist it and put it to better use. Secularists lie and say only evil people have temptation, so shut up if you're good. Christians think lust is the common denominator to most sin. Secularists think its sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:38 PM
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Balatro and Slice and Dice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:13 PM
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Rougelikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:04 PM
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Loneliness with rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:15 PM
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I did not consent to her not consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:14 PM
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Deflection and responding to quotes I didn't make, but of the ableist strawman of how you think low value autists respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:11 PM
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Deflection technique. We both know I'm right, you refuse to respond to disguise this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:09 PM
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Its a sterotype. You hate autistic men, so you create a sterotype that all autistic men think inclusion = pussy, even when there is no evidence of such. You commited a hate crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:02 PM
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Nope. I got officially diagnosed with autism. Not only do you hate all autistic men, you're also incredibly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:58 PM
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No you don't. Virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:57 PM
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Never said it did. You though I did because you hate all autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:54 PM
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And you think all kind and respectful human beings have girlfriends. A man who doesn't must be a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:53 PM
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Women uphold conventional beauty standards more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:52 PM
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All women consider men who can't get women are misogynistic. You are only tolerant of autistic guys who slay pussy like Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:49 PM
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All women correlate being able to attract women with being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:47 PM
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Never said it did. You assumed otherwise because you hate autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:38 PM
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Women are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:34 PM
0

Women say they support inclusion, equity, and neurodiversity, but hate it when an autistic man displays autistic symptoms. All women (including all autistic women) expect autistic men to be savant sex gods with no problems of their own. People were more tolerant of autism when they didn't know about autism, cause they at least had religion inspiring common human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:30 PM
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Looks matter in everything. People would rather be abused by a handsome guy than saved by an ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 01:12 PM
-6

Denying sex should be considered rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:56 PM
-5

You can't manipulate and abuse what you don't own. Under patriarchy, every man could be a Bad Boy for his girl. Now thanks to feminism, a woman can cry crocodile tears and take him for cash and prizes. You can't pass the "Good Guy" shit test without passing the feminism shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 11:48 AM
2

Man who is a woman reacts like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:52 PM
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I'm saying you think lonely men deserve as bad treatment as abusers do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:28 PM
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Feminist porch simp
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:11 PM
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Nice to know we hate lonely men just enough xD
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:09 PM
3

They didn't choose to get raped. They chose to date a rapist. Cost of doing business.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:23 PM
3

Being lonely doesn't make women hate you. Caring about being lonely makes women hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:43 PM
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They hate them just as much, but not as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:28 PM
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Women choose rapists over lonely men because they like rapists more than lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:09 PM
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Women seem to think that lonely men are inherently abusive and abusive men are inherently lonely. They seem to think the man's ability to pull indicates his moral value. There is the sub IncelTears, but no AbuserTears.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:50 PM
3

Women hate men who can't attract women just as much, if not more, than men who abuse women. CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:44 PM
3

A man can help others while helping himself, but he will be expected to sacrifice himself to help others more, unless he's the Bad Boy / Alpha Male who's allowed to break the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:01 PM
1

You're descrbing what the normies call a "fake Nice Guy TM" - somebody who acts nice to get something in return. You can put yourself first while helping others, but it is a sacrifice of self-sacrifice people don't tolerate in the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:51 PM
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Self-sacrifice doesn't work as a universal ethic - for someone to give, someone must be willing to recieve. And most sacrificers do gain a long term or psychological benefit for their work. Men trick themselves into sacrifice to hide that reciprocity has been denied to them by a selfish society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:34 PM
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Never works out. The only thing that works is being willing to leave, which is difficult for a kind guy to do. You have to be unkind and put yourself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:16 PM
4

Welcome to the world of being treated like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:04 PM
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The enslaved should learn to be happy being chained. The starving should learn to be happy at under 100 pounds. The dying should learn to be happy with death. believe they are failures if they don't find a relationship with a woman To all women (and most men) you are. You'd have to be an asocial nutjob to consider yourself a success in the face of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:38 PM
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Real reasons: Men are more autistic than women and have more trouble understanding social cues. Men mistakenly believe women are honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:37 PM
-1

They're lying. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 11:34 PM
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Love. Porn is close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:51 PM
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Did anime lie to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:03 PM
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If you actually ask the anti nice guys what a fake nice guy is, their definition is somebody who does things to get something in return - so their definition of a "real nice guy" is a doormat. You fell for their gaslighting by blaming guys who listened to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:40 PM
0

You recognize they are evil and inferior, and start being bitter at the system that gives them rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:35 PM
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Why should men approach women when they blatantly express their hatred of the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:05 AM
-7

Wrong. In the West, rape victims are not stigmatized, male virgins are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:52 AM
1

You're far more likely to be killed by a man you have sex with than an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 09:03 PM
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Yet he was still given sympathy. You're proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:15 PM
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People were more tolerant of men who can't get girls back then than they are today. See The Phantom of the Opera, The Huncheback of Notre Dame, and Frankenstein as examples. Then: "You can't find romance, through no fault of your own, which causes great suffering. This may cause you to do bad things, but you are deserving of sympathy and can still be a good person." Now: "You can't find romance because its your fault. This should cause no suffering, but you suffer because you are selfish. You ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:29 PM
0

Men should be taught lessons by Andrew Tate. Women should be taught lessons by Pearl Davis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:53 AM
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Its a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:55 AM
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I own my car.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:54 AM
5

She wants the "bad boy", not the perfect one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:56 AM
8

The bad faith response shows you have no interest in helping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:55 PM
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Gender issues will never be solved because women do not want to help men and most men do what women want. Furthermore, they won't acknowledge they don't want to so they can continue the lie of equality (aka the betterment of women at the expense of men). When given the choice, people will prefer what they feel over what is true and helpful. You can't have an honest society and a prosperous industrial society freed from the consequences for dishonesty. Take the Ted Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:32 PM
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I can forgive her and not cheat, but I can leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:39 PM
2

A man who is only interested in one woman, even in his imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:48 PM
2

My answer is better and more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:57 PM
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👋
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:56 PM
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Every day is "they're all ruthless sluts and women are disgusting" day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:43 PM
1

Minutia over wording instead of disagreement of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:40 PM
4

Incorrect. We notice women have a hatred of LMVs, then also notice they don't date LMVs and put two and two together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:30 PM
-1

This type of man is either asexual or lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:14 PM
3

Pics or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:00 PM
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When women accuse men of something, it is usually a case of projection. "Men don't see us as people." --> Women don't see men as people. "LVM only want supermodels." --> They only want supermodels. "Nice guys are only nice to get something." --> Women are only nice to get something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:48 PM
1

No, it's called "forgiving them when they can't meet your needs." You'll think its enabling, because you view love as getting something from the other person. And that's fine, but men are more considered about loyalty and stability than self-interest. Men Think: "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you." Women Think: "I can carry you, but what have you done for me lately?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:20 PM
1

And one way to care about your partner is forgiving them when they can't meet your needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:09 PM
1

And one way to care about your partner is forgiving them when they can't meet your needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:08 PM
0

Why stay with someone who only cares about what you bring to the table? That isn't (male) love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:00 PM
0

That's how women see relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:46 PM
0

Proof I'm right, Exhibt B.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:37 PM
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I never stated it was or was not a problem. It just is. Many men would, and while I wouldn't, I would at least acknowledge the tradegy of the relationship instead of holding resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:20 PM
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They love you not for who you are, but what you provide. When you are percieved to no longer provide anything, you're no longer percieved as loveable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:58 PM
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Passive aggressive idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:26 PM
1

Bitches love bread
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:55 PM
1

In the Weimar Republic, millions of women turned to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:50 PM
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Adressing radical feminists main three arguments against porn: Muh dick Muh dick Muh dick
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:36 PM
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I said break-ups, not divorce. This was a case of the parasite leaving the host.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:34 PM
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Break-ups in songs: We love each other, but because of one flaw or twist of fate, we are now apart, even though we still share feelings with each out. Break-ups IRL - He wasn't a psychopathic Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:03 PM
1

And men aren't into sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:07 PM
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And we don't want to LTR a slut and humiliate ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:00 PM
1

But would you commit to a partner who fantasizes about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:56 PM
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Literal cuckoldry
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:49 PM
1

But not giving them an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:49 PM
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Women - Men view sluts in the same way you view cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:13 PM
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That's all women thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:15 PM
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How can I tell if a woman is narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:12 PM
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Chad-only
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:02 AM
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Yet we're called Incels for saying you think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:01 AM
1

You can't force then to be compassionate, but you can force them to act as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:10 PM
-5

Compassion and babies. Don't want anything else from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:37 PM
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We want power and control not because we want power and control, but because women have no empathy for men. They can't be rationalized into doing the right thing, so they must be forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:27 PM
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Anything a woman can do, a man can do better, except for birthing kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:58 PM
0

Online is where the women outside go to take their masks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:57 PM
-1

You mean most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:56 PM
1

We already know you think that. Waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:55 PM
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Source: Trust me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:38 PM
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Then its not a problem with Red Pill that's an issue, but lack of confidence (as Red Pill predicts). All criticisms towards the Red Pill comes from deflection and projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:37 PM
0

Do non-evil women exsist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:34 PM
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Women think this is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:33 PM
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Woman sees Red Pilled men, and instead of hating Red Pilled men, hates low self esteem men. This makes sense if you understand women hate low self esteem men, then justify their hate post-facto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:13 PM
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We have put the belief in equality on a pedestal. When women act differently from men, they are violating the equality principle, thus eliciting hatred. Even though loneliness is one of the most painful experiences you can go through, women offer no sympathy to men who are lonely. Like a poor person ends up hating rich people who blame him for being poor, so do lonely men with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:42 PM
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Judging from the comments, it seems most men are willing (or at least SAY they're willing) to be used as women's safe bet after they had their real fun with dangerous men. You can't convince them to have self-respect when they don't want it, hence the futility of spreading the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:37 PM
2

and were not chads by any means (no 666 by ANY means). No wonder you're so upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:51 PM
0

Blacks escaped, revolted, and had movements against slavery. Women did not escape, revolt, or participate in movements, so there's no evidence to pick up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:48 PM
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Good. Get some exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:39 PM
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They did thou. Women did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:38 PM
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Feminism doesn't exsist without the Industrial Revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:36 PM
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If women don't believe men can become misogynistic because of women's bad behavior, why should men believe women can from men's? From personal observation, when women are treated bad by bad men, they don't punish bad men, but good men. If a woman is raped by a Bad Boy, she's more likely to blame the nerd who likes sexy female characters for objectifying women than criminal men. Pump her and dump her, and she'll think you're a real nice guy. Try to convince her she's in the wrong and she'll think…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:35 PM
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Only after the Industrial Revolution, where they could gain more from equality than inequality. No Industrial Revolution, no interest in their rights
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:05 PM
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You have no evidence they thought otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:54 PM
1

Women didn't complain about being raped, tortured, or having no rights for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:49 PM
1

A long history of writers after the Industrial Revolutuon discussing women before the Industriap Revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:48 PM
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The Red Pill is truth. It is neither positive nor negative. Its a fact - women didn't complain about men oppressing them until men stopped oppressing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:35 PM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:20 PM
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Misandry is caused by treating women too well, not oppression Women didn't complain about being raped, tortured, or having no rights for thousands of years. It was only after the Industrial Revolution that women became feminists for a better deal, and only after decades of feminist victories that radical feminism became mainstream. The ugly, socially awkward guy who compliments her appearence will always draw more of her ire, and blamed more for the oppression of women, then the man who rapes an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:17 PM
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Promiscuous women are unattractive to men for LTRs, are wasting their fertile years, and are cirrelated with less relationship success. Too many promiscuous women breaks society. Ending slut shaming of women won't end virgin/incel shaming of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:08 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:02 PM
4

The women's story sounds biased with victimhood. Another case of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:01 PM
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My point is that women make for horrible friends. The man is being strung along, but the man misattributes it to a romantic/sexual sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:47 PM
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I didn't mention romantic or sexual relationships? You are using canned responses without understanding the statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:28 PM
1

If you have to ask, he's not one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:52 PM
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Women only enjoy men for their utility. Good friendships are based on being there for each other when little is provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:23 PM
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Deflection / Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:23 PM
2

Half incorrect. Autism exists in women and seems underdiagnosed. And autism isn't inherintly sociopathic. But we are honest. If autistic women seem sociopathic, perhaps its because honest women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:17 PM
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Odds are against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:13 PM
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Emotional attacks are done by children, not adults. I see no commonality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:12 PM
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They are the minority, if they're even autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:33 PM
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If you're a friend with a woman, you're being nefariously kept around for their own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:29 PM
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All it takes is searching "autistic men" in r/AutisminWomen to see that autistic women hate autistic men just as much as normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:32 PM
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I want them to touch my ten foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:55 PM
2

You are at the Bargaining stage of grief. You need to slide into the Black Pill (Depression) before you can swallow the White Pill (Acceptance).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:37 PM
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This assumes men and women have a difference in opinion. Men and women think exactly alike, but women (and their Blue Pill orbiters) will ignore or lie about the facts in an attempt to advance themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:15 AM
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Women are evil and do not deserve rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:12 AM
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The hamster spins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:12 AM
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Never said that and bad faith for implying I did. Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:47 PM
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Thanks for the compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:46 PM
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If you tolerate the behavior of evil women, you are probably a bit evil yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:46 PM
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You belong on the middle of the bell curve meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:06 PM
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Women prefer horrible partners. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:05 PM
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For example, they will point out that women say they want a man who treats them with respect and kindness and then they date abusive assholes or that women say that they want men to show their genuine selves and then they reject shy or insecure men and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:52 PM
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For example, they will point out that women say they want a man who treats them with respect and kindness and then they date abusive assholes or that women say that they want men to show their genuine selves and then they reject shy or insecure men and so on. This is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:50 PM
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We're not arguing for women to be attractived to us. We're arguing so they stop being misandristic liars. Also futile, but it passes the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:47 PM
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Reality. Following your "moral compass" (i.e., feelings) instead of the external imposition of reality is the true cowardice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:30 PM
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Since we live in reality, eventually a man has to realize he doesn't have agency and has to follow the rules. The men who don't are ignorant, destructive, and more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:21 PM
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Nope. You either follow the rules or don't. You love men who don't, hate men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:18 PM
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Because they are defensive towards homewreckers and permissive towards cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:08 PM
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Because he was an asshole. Women make exceptions for guys who treat other people like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:06 PM
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Romantic success is not about being a good person or any other such nonsense. It's about being physically attractive, and socially adept. Nothing else. Most people do not believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:43 PM
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Reported for personal attack / contentless rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:41 PM
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Hatred/misanthropy and caring about others aren't mutually exclusive. The great religions of the world can have great hatred for evil and a pessismistic view of human nature, yet offer a path to salvation for everyone. This is an emotional blackmail to force conformity, into caring in ways you see fit instead of finding the truth of caring or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:29 PM
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Wrong. You're letting your hatred of rules-following autists cloud your judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:17 PM
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This also shows they do reject men based on character: they love men who break the rules and make life worse for everyone and hate men who autistically follow rules by the letter for a better world. Nothing kills attraction more in a woman than "mansplaining" her beliefs are narcissistic and harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:56 PM
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Are they fat because they are mean or mean because they are fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:12 PM
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Women's subs on Reddit get away with hating large groups of or all men regularly. Men's subs will ban you for mere criticism of women's behavior. These men are the real sexists, as an equalist should take up sexist opinions based on women's consistently sexist behavior. When everyone is a sexist, the biggest sexist is the one who doesn't acknowledge he's a sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:57 PM
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The difference is Red Pill acknowledges Alpha/Beta. The Blue Pill knows about it, but lies to try and get ahead. Its the "Sneaky F*cker" strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:32 PM
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"But what about the p!ssy?" is Blue Pill projection. The Red Pill is about what is true, Blue Pill is about covertly attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:35 PM
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The Blue Pill is just a spiteful, dishonest version of the Red Pill, so not only do they view the man being provided for financially, platonically, and sexually unattractive (despite their politics saying such is a good thing), they despise him for wanting in the first place. A stark contrast between Red Pill Internalizing ("You have these desires, but they are unmasculine.") vs Blue Pill Externalizing ("You have these desires because you are a misogynist.") Without internal understanding, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:19 AM
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Deflection plus projection. They see men only as utilities, therefore men must see women the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:52 PM
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Women are a net financial drain on society who would offer far more birthing more children than playing pretend. Women who are lifted up use the opportunity to spit on those beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:20 AM
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Radical respone on Reddit. You seem to be the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:42 PM
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World has proven to me, time after time, that Frollo did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:54 PM
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Who also couldn't get a girlfriend. They needed the sequel to prove Quasi wasn't as bad as Frollo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:49 PM
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The Huncheback of Notre Dame is about how a man can fail with women and still be a good person. The sequel gives him a girlfriend because the premise is completely unbeliviable to both the writers and the general audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:42 PM
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God made crack and meth so we can avoid love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:29 PM
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Oppressing women was so successful, we have to use unsuccessful strategies due to our overabundance. Seems like everyone knows what is good and bad. Its a question of which side they fall on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:11 PM
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One is based off emotion and the other is based on observation, so its a world of difference, unless women are innocent by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:52 PM
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"Women think unattractive men are inferior and don't date them" vs "Women don't date men and those men think women think they're inferior" are completely different statements. You can't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:41 PM
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Its literally the opposite. Can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:19 PM
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"Men only want us for sex!" is a projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:08 PM
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No. Its the other way around. Women view unattractive men as inferior, so they don't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:50 PM
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Not what I meant. More like, is wrong for men to be depressed over lack of romance and sex, and do they deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:14 PM
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SAID xD
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:54 PM
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If you think women picked the bear because they think they're less dangerous, you failed the shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:35 PM
1

Interesting. What is your opinion on the male loneliness epidemic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:24 PM
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Not at all. I'm reporting what I see. I don't value only sex because women only value sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:09 PM
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New reason women think low value men deserve to be alone forever: liking Zelda.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:04 PM
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Sex objects aren't very observant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:01 PM
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AWALT. A woman with CPTSD is just as delutional and vindictive as any other, with trauma and victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:57 PM
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Reluctantly at best, not at all at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:52 PM
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I don't think so, I KNOW so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:50 PM
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People are more autistic due to delayed marriage. Women hate autistic men. Women delay marriage looking for a partner they like. Go back to Step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:39 PM
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Yes. If he did all of that, but was sad he couldn't get any women, he'd have "a bad personality". If he did all of that and got a lot of women, they'd by infattuated with hin. Talent, good deeds, knowledge have almost no bearing on the assessment of a man's character in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:35 PM
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You are either not a woman or lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:33 PM
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Identifying a man's worth primarily by how many of you he obtains.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:30 PM
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You might not identify as one, but you identify with all of the traits of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:25 PM
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Not as much as if he were attractive and slayed puss for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:25 PM
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Simpler - Because women respect Wade Wilson while holding contempt for the self-sacrificing beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:14 PM
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She would, but only out of neccessity, not because of geniuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:05 PM
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All women are sex objects. We know this because they all identify as one. They all judge a man's value primarily based on how much of them he acquires. So "treating them like people" is both disaterous and incredibly misogynistic, similar to if you started treating Jews you met like a Nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:39 PM
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Women like assholes because they themselves are assholes, but are too cowardly to commit to the bit. Men like sluts for sex, but not for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:20 PM
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Women like rich assholes and poor assholes, and are not attracted to rich betas or poor betas. It seems like its the asshole they are attracted to, not the wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:53 PM
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Surprising. You look like an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:43 PM
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If that were true, women's sex fantasy would be Superman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:36 PM
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Women do more to uphold toxic masculinity than any man could.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:37 PM
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Aka a bully to everyone except her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:01 PM
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All else being equal, women prefer a man who bullies men she deems low value over a man who tries to be compassionate to others. CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:55 PM
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Women want an Alpha male provider, who also shares the burden of the chores, who isn't nice just to get something, but better have a lot to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:33 PM
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Female projection / Black Pill moment. They don't hate people they're physically attracted to, so why don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:03 PM
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Bad Alphas do it all the time, yet they earn plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:36 PM
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Ironically, despite the Good Guy Alpha accomplishing more than the Bad Boy Alpha, the Bad Boy Alpha inspires far more attraction and respect. Defund the Police is a saying, Punish the Criminal is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 07:30 PM
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You're taking shit posts too seriously. Never met a guy who was pro female immigration only, but importing potentially violent military aged men is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:58 PM
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OP is absolutely correct. A quick trip to the erotica section shows women love evil, dangerous bad boys who add drama to her life. They're so chaotic, they can't even admit to being chaotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:01 PM
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Your mistake is in treating women as rational people with self-respect. Yes, they know bad boys are going to hurt them and make their lives worse - that's why they like them. They love men who are not only powerful, but just as chaotic and selfish as she is, regardless of what happens to herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:49 PM
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Based Woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:30 AM
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Dead bedrooms > sterile civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:29 PM
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Tell women to stop being attracted to dominance and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:26 PM
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Using Dunbar's number, 1:150
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:25 PM
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Makes men feel dominant and powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:22 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:24 PM
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Its different, taboo, and degrading. Men like degrading partners more than women, in fact women can have an incredibly negative reaction to a man being degraded. Its not a must for me, but should be replaced with equal kinkiness in other things. If she's not a slut to me, especially when she's a slut for others, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:24 PM
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Just give women a million dollars per child bro. I have another solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:45 PM
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We've tried using financial incentives. They don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:41 PM
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Neither insulting nor putting women on a pedstal have resulted in increased birth rates. Pro-natalist policies have been a total disaster. The only way to increase the birth rates is by taking away women's rights
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:30 PM
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That isn't individualism, that's female biology. You can't debunk attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:37 PM
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He shouldn't call the ambulance. You should call the ambulance yourself, without selfishly relying on your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:30 PM
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The average men isn't a low-quality option. They're average. But the average woman is not looking for the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:22 PM
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Not what OP was talking about, so not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:08 PM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting sex and being sad when you don't have it. Most men want sex and intimacy, but this does not make wanting sex bad. Even the most left wing women become puritains to shame low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 04:27 PM
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No. Men would prefer for women to like them as they are for a pernament relationship, but as women are flakey and hypergamous, settle for being liked for what they do in flakey relationships with multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:44 PM
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They are fantasizing about nonconsensual acts, aka rape. Just as the woman fantasizes about being raped, the man fantasizes about raping.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:36 PM
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Even when women fantasize about it? Very sex negative and misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:22 PM
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Always taboo, disturbing, heinous, never wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:19 PM
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Blacks didn't like being enslaved though, and would run away, revolt, or hope for freedom. Hardpy such sentiments from women before the Industrial Revolution, when their self-interest changed with the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:50 PM
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No. Its saying the best strategy for high value men is to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:44 PM
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Neither of these are inherintly "dirty". Its okay to want sex with many women and put a high emphasis on it. Its the fact that non-Alphas have this interest that ellicits visceral disgust from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:30 PM
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On some level, a man has to want to rape women to be successful with women. Her lip say "Ew sex is gross", but her body says "Yes yes."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:25 PM
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They are seeking relationships - with Alphas. And as women aren't entitled to have sex with men, an Alpha isn't entitled to commit to these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:14 PM
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White knights on suicide watch. As women don't want to "be your mommy", men should stop trying to "be their daddy" (or thinking you should have each other's back). Don't commit unless you're looking for kids. Red Pill men, traditional men, and women are all in agreement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:59 AM
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Yet when women were viewed as unequal commodities, they were nicer and less misandristic than when men started respecting them. It is not women’s job to revert to classic values- it is our job to force them to accept classic values.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:42 AM
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They're incredibly stupid. They're given the means to satisfaction, reject it to intellectually jerk off, then wonder why the world sucks. I see no reason to respect that. Why pity women when they choose to be unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:38 AM
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Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:18 AM
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Okay then. Where were the kill-all-men feminists in pre-Industrial society?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:08 AM
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If they had issues with their situation, I've never seen them complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:06 AM
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That's how it worked for thousands of years - and women were happier and less misandristic than in the era where men respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:05 AM
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By falling on the side of the feminists who are opposed to men. You didn't stick up to me, you decided to support punishing all men. Being given the ability to choose makes you bitter and misandristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:04 AM
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Looking at the current situation, they don't seem happy at all. They have the same rights and privileges as men, yet never have they been more miserable and misandrist towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:53 AM
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They submit to them instead of standing up to them. Men who threaten women with violence are treated well by women. You'd be proving my point, as instead of being critical of me, you end up wanting to kill all men, who are mostly trying to help you. You don't want to be a kill-all-misogynists feminist, you want to be a kill-all-men feminist. And if we lived in a patriarchal society, you would submit and do neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:51 AM
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And they do a terrible job at it. Women are more bitter and hateful now that they have been given freedom to choose than when it was decided for them. They're stuck in a trap of their own making, as well as the men who thinks they will learn to be responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:44 AM
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That was after the Industrial Revolution, when technology lifted much of the burden of being a woman off their backs. So no, no man hating feminists before the Industrial Revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:42 AM
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The kill-all-men feminists completely absent in countries where genital mutilation and wartime rape is common? You're proving my point, advocating for the deaths of men who are least likely to do these things while the people who actually do these things go and went by completely unopposed. There were no radical feminists when women were treated the worst, only once they are treated as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:39 AM
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Seems you have done a good job of incriminating freedom. We have two entirely different goals. You want freedom, even if it makes people miserable harpies, I want happiness, even if it costs freedom. I can't argue on the grounds of women's happiness if women don't want to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:32 AM
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As your observations were wrong before, I do not trust your observations now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:17 AM
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From a person without a source. If there were man-hating feminists before the Industrial Revolution, I haven't seen them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:56 AM
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Nope. Here's the data. By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well‐being indicate that women’s happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well‐ being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well‐being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:52 AM
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Women were happier and liked men more during all of that than today when they are free of it. There are no kill-all-men feminists in those societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:36 AM
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Yet the rest of Western women aren't doing so hot, and hate men more than they did back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:35 AM
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Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:28 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:17 AM
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In terms of gender relations, they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:50 AM
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And there was also less misandry and unhappy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:49 AM
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And it was incredibly successful for thousands of years. Meanwhile, half a century of free love has brought about strained gender relations, low birth rates, and single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:27 AM
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So both genders admire the bad boy/girl while saving their scorn for men of low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:38 PM
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Pointing out passive aggression isn't passive aggression. I'm directly pointing at logical fallacies/bad faith tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:42 PM
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You're just being sensitive lol this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a personal attack as a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:39 PM
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this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a personal attack as a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:35 PM
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Blacks/Unattractive men aren't morally bad. At least not all of them... If one statement is bigoted, so is the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:30 PM
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As this statement is bigoted, your statement is also.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:16 PM
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Blacks aren't morally bad. At least not all of them...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:53 PM
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Bad as in morally bad? No. At least not all of them. She said the quiet part out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:45 PM
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Personal attacks and passive aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:42 PM
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Personal attacks, passive aggression, and off topic discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:01 PM
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Three paragraphs of ad homs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:20 PM
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Almost none of them do. Meanwhile, women are slobbering over Wade Wilson.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:50 PM
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I didn't say women are bad for having standards. I'm saying women also think those men are bad people for not meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:49 PM
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Women hate incels who they think might hurt women more than men who kill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:47 PM
2

Men don't nag their wives because they love them for who they are. Women do because they love them for what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:45 PM
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They believe there is somebody for every good person. If you can't attract women, they think its because you're a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:12 PM
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Genetic winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:38 PM
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Women like winners. People who lose don't act like winners. Women don't like them. They act like how women treat them. Women don't like them...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:45 PM
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Soft balls. I'd add women are also not entitled to protection, safety, and rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:44 PM
2

You judge them by what they say they believe, I judge them by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:18 PM
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Not remotely true. Red Pill believes in the ugly guy who has such frame and masculinity, he pulls dozens of girls, Blue Pill believes in the ugly guy who respects women so much, he gets dozens of dates. The only group who believe looks can be so important, they can ruin your chances is the Black Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:16 PM
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Stop talking about Shrek 1 and 2, we have a whole Megathread. We have more important movies to talk about, like Shrek the Third.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:41 PM
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"You can talk about Shrek 1 and 2, but only in one thread per week" would be a terrible Shrek forum. Slaves trying to justify their chains.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:35 PM
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A forum about intersexual relationships that bans discussion on looks is like a Shrek forum where you can't talk about Shrek 1 or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:17 PM
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The "loneliness epidemic" still persists because its romantic loneliness, not platonic loneliness, that causes the most suffering. Tired of people pretending romance isn't an important thing when it is a constant theme of our culture and our most base desi Because it is hard, men don't succeed at it and women find success attractive. Women love winners. Both men and women find men are disposable, so like with relationships, male friendships are often based on utility. You can't feel deeply about…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:41 PM
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The fact I have to qualify myself in the first place is the problem. I l'm not going to care about people who treat me as a utility. I can treat them the same, conclude they don't offer me enough, and detatch myself from society. You can't shame women into desiring you. And why would you want to? This isn't about desire, but seeing men as human beings with inherint value. The rejection sucks, but the dehumanizatiin is intolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:56 PM
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More shaming language to deflect the raw deal society has to offer men. Why care about my finances and death when life is miserable and I have nobody to share it with? Lust is more immediate than gluttony and greed. Why should I care about society and women that only sees me as a utility? As long as society doesn't care about men, I don't care about society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:07 PM
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At the end of the day, TRP at its core may be helpful for men who have no idea about how to sexually attract women. An endorsement worthy of its place on the sidebar!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:25 AM
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it made women look bad Doesn't consider the minutia Looks like I'm not wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:20 AM
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Blue Pill: Women's high standards are fine, you're not entitled to sh*t! Red Pill: Well, if women have higher standards, doesn't that indicate they're more selfish? Blue Pill: Misogynist! Women aren't a different species, not all women are like that, the problem is you, blah blah blah...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:05 PM
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No. Red Pill says the harsh truths about women. Blue Pill shits on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:48 PM
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Red Pill: How dating works Blue Pill: How dating works, without making women look bad The entire basis of arguments on here come down to arguing over minutia to make women look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:34 PM
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It is not fair or unfair. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:08 PM
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You're calling the Black Pill the Red Pill, then complaining "Red Pilled" men aren't Red Pilled enough. Thus confirming you desire Red Pilled men. Does any Blue Piller here believe in the Blue Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:54 PM
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You were already submissive. The men bullying you needed to bully the women bullying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:36 PM
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By definition, you can't always get what you want and be submissive. Women have been given the freedom to be submissive, dominant, or whatever they want, and they've become more miserable and misandristic because they had to choose. Sacrifice is what women are willing to do for a high value male. I did not know that at it's base level, bullying and tearing down other women made someone compassionate toward's men's issues. It works. Women are more vulnerable to shame than guilt, so its better to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:09 PM
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Based Men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:04 PM
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Not enough to stand up to the increasing misandry though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:23 PM
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Women don't like men, so want men to like men...but men like what women like, so nobody likes men. There's a reason why all the examples you listed are fictional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:56 PM
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Most criticisms of men by women come from projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:54 PM
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Motte and Bailey
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:54 AM
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So much for "No means no!'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:00 AM
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Women care more about social conformity and selfishness than what is good for the nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 10:39 AM
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Some time after she is put in the grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:45 AM
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Ah, so there's the loophole. If you're a virgin man with no issues over it (a confident, potential Alpha), you won't be shamed. If you do have issues over it, even if you don't blame others, then you are shamed. But since the latter is often the result of male virginity, most male virgins end up shamed. Its the female equivilent of loving slaves, but not those drapetomaniacs who don't like being enslaved. Just "the good ones".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:06 PM
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nor saying “Im lonely because Im sexless and need romance”? This is the type of loneliness we're talking about. Why is this type of loneliness bad to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:34 PM
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Actually, if you visit any female-oriented subreddit, they are very clear that they think lonely men in general deserve it. Granted, they'll attribute bad qualities to these men, but that's a discrimination made against them after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:16 PM
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Not because men love thinking about other guys plowing their GF, but because it seems low value and deviant, to a degree, for a woman to retain her virginity late in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:17 PM
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No. Can't abandon my waifu.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:15 PM
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For example motherhood is beautiful and blah blah blah but the moment people see a pregnant woman’s body especially after birth people are quick to call her disgusting even the daddy will participate in that slander. Important work doesn't equal beautiful work. Imagine if a sewage worker threw a fit because we thought being covered in shit is disgusting. You shouldn't humiliate women, but no, pregnant women aren't beautiful. If a woman is SAHM and is taking care of multiple toddlers Danm near 24…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:39 PM
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They are simps that lying to you. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:56 PM
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There has never been a culture that loved sluts. Only resisting their disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:43 PM
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Not if you win.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:37 PM
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And insults, even though they can be unproductive, are meant to worsen someone's emotional state rather than to make an actual logical or truthful point. No point in arguing with the malicious and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:20 PM
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They can't use the same insult due to biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:10 PM
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This is biological though, not societal or personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:46 PM
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As they primarily judge a man based on how well he actively obtains sex, this confirms the observation that women are sex objects. The only thing a woman hates more than being a sex object is a guy tring to change her into a rational person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:37 PM
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Ignores biology. Men find chaste women wholesome, promiscuous women disgusting, regardless of if they get women or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:28 PM
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Looks like you're catching up to what was considered obvious in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:04 PM
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Women like invulnerable men who beat other men with ease? I don't understand. Doesn't she know that a real Alpha knows when not to fight? Why doesn't this rational explanation make her want him more? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:37 PM
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Broken systems need men to shoulder their burden so they're not disposed of. Your ancestors didn't have to "self-improve" 24/7 to get girlfriends and wives. But their women didn't have rights (and were happier for it).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:27 AM
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The best move hungry men can make is work on being happy hungry. Food is not required to be happy, and you could accidentally eat poison. Let the food come to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:26 PM
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Doesn't matter. Your rationality, restraint, and need to explain yourself will give her the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:57 PM
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Hope she doesn't read this bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:02 PM
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If you can't defend yourself, how will you defend her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:45 PM
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You can't have a romantically healthy, fertitle society and female mate choice at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:50 PM
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Men are willing to sacrifice for the woman. Women are not willing to sacrifice for the man. Thus men's romantic stories are about two people who manage to get through hell and back together, while women's are about a plain jane obtaining an Alpha male and his resources. The "You're just nice to me to obtain sex!" line is a deflection to obscure the fact that women don't value sacrifice and loyalty. In fact, if it weren't for masculine expectations and the inherent selfishness of the feminine, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:04 PM
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Saying incel men should just make friends is like saying gay men should just get married to women. Its nonadvice for the giver's sake, not the reciever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:53 PM
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"We hate you because you think love is transactional" vs "We hate you because love is transactional." Still keeps men disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:48 PM
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Looks like you thought he was worse than you. No wonder it didn't work out!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:25 AM
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Marry a peasant, hang out with the kings, and limit her time with other kings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:49 AM
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Learn 2 metaphor Confidence - "a feeling or consciousness of one's powers or of reliance on one's circumstances". More power, more confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:38 AM
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You said avoiding, I didn't. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:35 AM
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Comparing yourself to others --> Ego boost Ego boost --> More confidence More confidence --> Confident person Can't explain it better, but as said from above, I believe this conversation is in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:34 AM
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You're splitting the types of confidence down into two boxes, the "real" confidence and the rest, when they're all confidence. Ego boost = More confidence. There you go. No "real confident people...its not required to..." It works - both for the man and the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:22 AM
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A king is going to most feel like a king in a room of peasants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:17 AM
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I think The Blue Pill is a hoax. Browsing normie threads and responses on here, everyone has a general understanding of what women are attracted to, but ~80% are dishonest to avoid what the truth would entail. They'll agree, of course women love confident men. But when you get into the details of how to be a confident guy (be successful, self-interested, unattached, better than her), they see the pedestal of equality begin to crumble, and save it through deflection, denial, exaggerating, value j…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:05 AM
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What is this, 20 Questions? BYE! 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:52 PM
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Loyalty Good Faith Being Based
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:49 PM
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This is conceding victory to the system looming over you and trying to adapt to get the increasingly small scraps of social dignity left. I want a system that respects me regardless of my confidence, rapport, competency, or social connections, and I isolate myself because society can't meet these expectations, regardless of the goodies they promise. People will start being happier once the system collapses and something new comes about, and until that happens, interacting with their small counte…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:27 PM
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Baseless claims, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:21 PM
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This is just a deflection technique, shaming people who have had their trust violated or are worried it will be. They're bad for being concerned about their safety and others, and if their fears become true, they deserved it. But these are arbitrary value judgements that do not help society at large. Why should we care if people are stupid/smart, responsible/not, if the methods above reduced pedophilia? "Learn from your mistakes" after your children get molested? "Never have kids" and let those …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:20 PM
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"Trust me bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:53 PM
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And that is three ad hominems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:50 PM
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You shouldn't have attachment to that which cannot be fixed. Male disposibility will always be a thing, and to the extent patriarchy would help things, gynocentrism is too entrenched in modern society. Men can't save men, but they can save themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:19 PM
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Or when you get more educated that you feel smarter? "In this moment I am euphoric. Not because of any phony God's blessing. But because I have been enlightened by my own intelligence." - Master Self-Improver Aalewis
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:58 AM
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If women think men are more dangerous than bears, what could be more disrespectful than approaching them? Give them their space and let them consent to it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:07 PM
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But when people start looking down on you? I would rather be "the bad guy" people like than "the good guy" people despise. Following principles at the expense of myself is self-sabotage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:34 PM
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you can't say things like "women are hypergamous, therefore women should lose their rights and we should return to the patriarchy". Why should men uplift women if women will then look down on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:11 PM
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I think its both the need to be put on the right path and to have their pains acknowledged. Nobody should be sent down false rabbit holes, and for those who can't make it despite seeing the light, it is uphplding morality to understand their pain and to help alleive it (within reason).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:28 PM
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I used to have a female friendship online - both times she asked to "hang out" instead of texting back and forth ended up being attempts to seduce me, and after one serious disagreement/fight, she'd give me an infinetely long silent treatment. This makes sense if she only was nice to me to get sex/a relationship. Do women do this all the time to men they're attracted to? Chad plz respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:08 PM
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OP made the mistake of thinking women should be responsible and try holding them to account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:57 AM
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They are giving their time, resources, intimacy, and support to a person who violates, harms, and destroys other people and the public good. This is a bad thing. With empathy and sympathy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:55 AM
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Rewarding and mutually benefiting with bad people. You read the sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:48 AM
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Not true and not relevant to the discussion. Women reward/mutually benefit with bad people and should be held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:43 AM
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How does women's attraction to criminals make this world a better place?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:15 AM
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No such place as r/ViolentCriminalTears
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:13 AM
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Yes? You can disincentive something without dehumanizing them, as women immediately attempt to do. sighs This is why we can't have women help us fix the gender issues. Because they would sooner deny basic rules of positive/negative reinforcement than assist in creating a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:04 AM
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Because they overdo it and give them no empathy or sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:56 AM
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Women should stop entering "mutually beneficial acts" with immoral men. Sentence has the same meaning, looks like sex is a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:04 AM
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Okay. Men should stop being immoral. And women should stop rewarding immoral men. You're defending an argument that exsists in your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:00 AM
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sighs This is why we can't have women help us fix the gender issues. Because they would sooner deny basic rules of positive/negative reinforcement than assist in creating a better place. All the bad boys they date were destined to be bad, so she's free to date them, all misogynistic men they overly shame are destined to be misogynistic, so they overly shame them. Their actions exist under a just-world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:39 AM
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Punishment does stop men though. If women treated criminals as terribly as they do incels, that would be a great incentive to not be a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:01 AM
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Men should stop being immoral. And women should stop rewarding immoral men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:55 AM
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They'd love what the man contributes, but they will not love the mam for who he is. At best, he'll be "one of the good ones" they can extract resources from, then continue hating low value men. They liked men better before not because of what they did, but because they were a part of the tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:40 PM
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You're buying into the feminist propaganda trying to dismiss, blame, and shame men for their loneliness as something that shouldn't exsist. But in the past, when societies were more cooperative, a man could have pride in contributing to a community that appretiated him for his efforts. The most primitive of hunter-gatherer societies were suprisingly egalitarian and democratic. This connection struggles to exsist under the egoist individualism of the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:07 PM
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Eww. This post reeks of entitlement. Nobody owes you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:32 PM
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Sperm are cheap, eggs are expensive. Women put a lot more time, energy, and risk in having children than men do. So women viscerally desire only the highest quality of men, while men desire a vast quantity of women. Futhermore, a man approaching first immediately shows he's willing to take on risk and leadership in the relationship and his own life (the rewards of which she can extract in the relationship). Men like women more than the other way around. Not just sexually, but most will allow the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:28 PM
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"You're not entitled to sex" is a deflection to hide the fact feminism has been very damaging to society and that women have no empathy or sympathy for men, trying to shame the man for having needs (a need that isn't required to survive is still a need) so she isn't required to give anything, physically or mentally, and the societal rot can continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:20 PM
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Women have empathy for the loneliness and even selflessness of men xD xD xD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:55 AM
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Ironically, they successfully turn women back into trophies you earn for being a good person. Everyone (including all women) think women are sex objects. Its a question of who distributes the goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:59 AM
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"Would you rather be alone with a black person or a bear?" "Oof, nice dog whistle, Nazi. Only a racist would think black people are violent animals." "Would you rather be alone with a man or a bear?" "The bear of course. Men are violent animals. And if you don't like me picking the bear, you're the reason why I picked the bear."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:10 PM
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Red Pill men argue about what is true. Women argue for their collective self-interest. What they say they believe is what is most beneficial to them at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:53 AM
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Women do lie thou about the shallow things they are attracted to. How many women would admit to wanting a tall, handsome, muscular rich guy who's a bit of an asshole? Even this post serves as a deflection, conflating failing with women with some sort of moral failure (to women, incompetent = immoral). The "end goal" is men want recognition for their struggles, but since only bad men fail with women, they're not allowed to "play victim" while every other demographic does so on a constant basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:48 PM
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When women say they hate conservative, DTF dominant men, they mean they hate beta conservative, DTF dominant men. They make rules for betas, break rules for Alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:15 PM
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"Eventually". Red Pill gives you advice how to succeed now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:18 PM
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Where's the advice? xD How to get dates Get a date Circular reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:01 PM
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This is "just be yourself" advice. And the reason why we swallowed The Red Pill in the first place was this kind of advice blows up in our face (if it works at all) when women are more interested in our performance than us "being a good person". Red Pill tells us how to succeed in that performance instead of thinking women will love us in a morally acceptable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:55 PM
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Single moms are terrible people and unintentional child abusers. Single fathers are also bad, but single moms act and vote in ways that allow both of them to continue destroying the family unit. They're not hated enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:15 PM
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This. Even her description of Johns is tainted by a negative bigotry towards men who can't get laid. See, those Johns are the real perverts, while the Chads have a wholesome sexuality, and women are complete angels who'd never get off to non-vanilla sex... Its all so tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:57 PM
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Vetting a woman for appretiating vulnerability is like vetting a tiger for herbivory, then calling the tiger "trash" as it eats you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:10 AM
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A pile of shaming language essentially agreeing with me, but arbitrarily justifying it by defining some vulnerability as normal, others as immature. Woman can, and do, just as easily label most vulnerability as immature, almost no vulnerability as normal. What does a man have to gain from someone who will sometimes appreciate his vulnerability, other times find it as grounds for terminating the relationship? The risk isn't worth it. He should save his vulnerability for vetted friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:23 PM
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👋
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:41 PM
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...the lambs whisper among themselves, "These birds of prey are evil, and does this not give us a right to say that whatever is the opposite of a bird of prey must be good?" there is nothing intrinsically wrong with such an argument-though the birds of prey will look somewhat quizzically and say, "We have nothing against these good lambs; in fact, we love them; nothing tastes better than a tender lamb.” -Nietzsche
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:39 PM
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You're mistaking empathy for sympathy. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:32 PM
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Gynocentrism. Men's needs bad. Women's needs good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:31 PM
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You know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:30 PM
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Bad, but so what? I can understand you without respecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:30 PM
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The former, the latter, both, and neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:27 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:25 PM
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Yes to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:19 PM
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See, we're saying the same thing, but I'm saying it in a neutral way vs you saying it in a pro-women way. You can say any act of vulnerability is arbitrarily "unhealthy, unregulated, not like an adult", but you still are seeking not vulnerability itself, but the performance of vulnerability. So it's better for men to er on the side of caution and perform in general than be their vulnerable selves. As women don't have to risk physically dangerous behavior, men don't have to risk emotionally dange…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:15 PM
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Women will label the former as the latter, so I tend to be absolutist here. If you will abandon your partner after a "complete mental breakdown", you'll probably abandon your partner after they open up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:56 PM
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You talk in a feminine manner, so yes, you would be more feminine in your attraction. Sociopaths are the more risky, dangerous types, psychopaths are more emotionless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:47 PM
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We're talking about normal emotioms every man deals with and violence hasn't been on the table. Quit using google to understand disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:44 PM
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For being an emotional wreck? Sure. For showing emotion at all? No. If men dumped women every time they were emotional, men would never pair up with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:41 PM
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I don't think I'm a very empathetic person. Hence the futility of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:37 PM
17

Projection. Men deal with women's intense emotions all the time. Its women who feel like these fundamentally disqualify a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:59 PM
11

Psychopaths are comparetively emotionless to the norm, you don't know what the f you're talking about. Men feeling intense anger, sadness, and anxiety is the opposite of psychopathy. That's why women don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:57 PM
17

Nobody said anything about threatening behavior. Unless men's anger, frustration, and despair are inherently threatening to women by not giving her what she wants. It seems you want the benefits of appearing empathetic without any of the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:50 PM
21

Men shouldn't reveal who they are, because women love them for what they do. This needs profound cultural change from the ground up. It needs vulnerability for men and boys presented as normal and acceptable, right from early childhood. It needs representation and role models, it needs interactions played out and healthy modes of support and just plain tolerance portrayed as the norm - and not just unworkable direct transplants from female-support-network models either. Libtard horseshit. Men ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:22 PM
22

Then you don't want men to open up. You want the performance of men opening up. When they open up and its easy to deal with, not when it is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:17 PM
14

It entirely depends on the percieved value of the man. Chad is so nice, he should put himself first for once and pick the best woman for him. Those evil Incels though...they all want supermodels and should settle with obese women and shut up. Ironically, the founder of Incels.co says his DMs are open to anyone who's open to dating him. Yet no women have responded, or stopped thinking he's entitled and has high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:51 PM
6

Autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:20 PM
2

A Blue Pill man has no idea what girls will do for an Alpha. And an Alpha has no idea what girls will do for a bad boy. And a bad boy has no idea what girls will do for a guy that's good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:08 PM
6

Western men have given their women more freedom, protection, and power than any other men in history. Meanwhile, Western women hate men more than any other women in history. Women and betas don't understand why they hate men - not because men don't listen, but they're so despicable, they do listen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:12 PM
-3

Men should be ready to die for their civilization, women to give birth for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:37 AM
4

No. Enforced polygamy is the answer. Bring back the stud farm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:31 AM
-5

Women prefer being selfish over maintaining civilization, even if this would mean they could no longer be selfish. Hence why you don't see female-runned civilizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:20 AM
-14

Simple. Take women's rights away.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:18 AM
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Three cultured lizards in a trenchcoat. And fittingly, the ones where the Alpha loses and the beta wins were written by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:30 PM
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Af;bb and wanting an older daddy figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:00 PM
2

Men can't be themselves, do things to help themselves, and do things women like at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:56 PM
1

Tell that to the creepy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:36 PM
-1

The Red Pill is objective. It is Blue Pill trying to uphold the delusions of equality that is clouded by emotion. Women have become incredibly spiteful, dehumanizing, and mocking of men lately, and we're not all going to take the "moral high road" while they spit on our face. You want us to be less aggressive? Ok, ban incelphobia on female subreddits and then we'll talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:26 PM
-1

Men are the disposible sex - to both genders. Women are good as they are - to both genders. The queen makes the rules and the peasent follows, without question. You are acting out of line when you ask for truth, kindness, and fairness, to be scapegoated by those trying to gain their queen's favor or avoid her incredible wrath.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:36 PM
-1

Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:24 PM
-1

They acted irresponsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:34 PM
-1

A few were less happy while the rest were remarkably happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:14 PM
1

Doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:02 PM
-3

Women try to take responsibility, but do a terrible job at it. They were more productive and happier under subservience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:55 PM
0

Men don't like the awkwardness of unrequited feelings and seeing their crush get fucked by other men. Not very empatheic of you to not understand this. I didnt elaborate because that would have shattered his self-esteem into smithereens. I care for this dude. I dont want to hurt him out of malice. You also are a liar by omission. Masculine men hate lies, even if the truth makes them feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:50 PM
-1

Finances, protection, understanding the world, acting in a kind and empathetic way...responsibility in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:45 PM
5

Women (and their blue pill enablers) believe in the sexual just world fallacy - all men they're sexually attracted to are good and deserve accomodation, all men they're not attracted to are bad and deserve to rot. They do not believe they have romantic needs of their own, and must exaggerate and shame low value men's most fundamental desires. Ironically, there is nothing more a woman hates than a man who lisyens to their nagging and downplays/hides their sexuality - women want to be legitimately…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:44 PM
-5

Control is a good thing. Women don't behave unless positively or negatively reinforced. Male authority is fair when women refuse to take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:18 PM
-4

No need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:48 AM
-5

Owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:20 AM
1

I'm not obligated to change my position because you disagree with my position, nor is it lying to hold a position I believe is true. Bad faith conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:52 PM
1

I acknowledged both of your points. Why do you keep lying about what I say?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:06 PM
1

I said tendency, not absolutely. You moved the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:00 PM
0

That's a short check list compared to the demands of women. Women also want good-looking men, and expect the man to be in the more demanding, risky position of dominance in a relationship. Subservience is a mild thing to ask for, one that many men are willing to abandon in their attempts to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:52 PM
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Women want a man who is above them. By getting down on one knee and promising a lifetime of fidelity and free stuff, the man lowers himself to her level and beneath. Hence sex declines in marriages, despite us wanting to portray women as the faithful, romantic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:23 PM
0

Frustrating to see the downvotes. Men are the romantic sex, women are the pragmatic one. Men tend to love the woman for who she is; women tend to love men for what he can provide. Rollo Tomassi covered this a decade ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:13 PM
-2

Just confirms that women love assholes. If they showed vulnerability instead, the relationship would immediately die off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:56 AM
2

Depends on the guy, but why would it matter to you? So let's say a man has conditions on each of these points. Would you accuse him of having too high standards, or that he should keep pursuing what he wants and never settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:40 PM
5

Not fat, kind of attractive, some shared interests, not a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:24 PM
5

I don't like the double standards. Women are free to ditch guys for not being perfect, while men are told to lower their standards, often accused of being astronomically high when they're just seeking the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:16 PM
-1

They're not naturally submissive and feminine. But they do such a terrible job at being dominant and masculine, they do a better job in their role as subordinate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:18 PM
4

This is why relationships fizzle over time. Society is built on growing closer in steady relationships, but she ends up seeing the real you is far from the Bad Boy Alpha Male she craves. Even a dash of vulnerability, or non-evil behavior, can total a relationship. Its inevitable when your goal is stability while she seeks the chaotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:48 AM
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Because women fail to act in a positively masculine manner. The servant may not like serving, but they do a terrible job when given the role of master. Women are destined into this role, physically and mentally, and our ignorance of this fact has made our culture emotional, ugly, sterile, and unhappy. And eventually even women won't want this once their safety is compromised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:38 AM
10

He must have a really good personality. He might be a woman killer, but at least he didn't say anything mildly misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:47 PM
0

Because women are designed, physically and mentally, to take from men. The "dominant woman" (an oxymoron) is a projected fantasy, imagining his pmwill to provision returned from his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:00 PM
12

Women say they want a confident, legitimately nice guy with a good personality, but that list looks like it was made by FACEandLMS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:29 PM
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If men based their understanding of women through romance novels, we'd all become Red Pilled - a tall, jacked, Alpha male asshole gains interest in a Plain Jane, who does nothing, but is somehow so attractive, he can't help but make love to her, with or without her consent. Add a dash of mystery, drama, and push-pull to make him not seem too easy to get. Why aren't men interested then? Because they don't want what they know in their subconscious to be confirmed true, and their subconscious under…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:49 PM
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That's a deflection. Most men want or eventually want a whole relationship, which includes sex, but women chase men who have many options, don't take men's sexual needs seriously, or have nothing to offer besides sex, then falsely conclude men are these stupid animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:34 PM
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I would risk getting harassed and threatened by the opposite gender if it meant finding one that cared about me as a person, and not what I did alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:14 PM
6

"If you want women to be honest, lie to women." No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:15 PM
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You allow one group to use victimhood all the time, but the other none of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:52 PM
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I did read that. But I think you're lying. If a Black Lives Matter protest marched up to your doorstep, you wouldn't say "There are no victims, quit complaining." Its your rationalization hamster spinning a reason why your emotional response is valid, when it is hypocritical and emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:40 PM
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The cultural discourse is so broken these days, that the low (women, minorities, LGBT, the poor) are constant victims of circumstance, while the high (straight white men of means) have no problems that aren't their own fault. Its the worst of both worlds for a normal man - unjust world fallacy for them, just world fallacy for you. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:29 PM
1

Islam has entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:49 AM
-1

They don't want to swallow the blackest pill - male, equitable, unconditional love is not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:01 PM
-1

This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:53 PM
6

Then NWordTears would be good if it only showed black people committing crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:02 PM
5

Its not called IncelEntitlement. Its called IncelTears. They're there to see Incels suffer. They have their reasons why they think they deserve it, but they still think they deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:59 PM
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Well, like how a man going to NWordTears probably doesn't like black people in general, the fact that women and their followers go to and encourage IncelTears indicates they probably don't like low value men in general, and many men understand they're a drought or bad political opinion away from being labeled "incel".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:52 PM
3

And women's response to thus has been a combination of blaming all men, denying that men have romantic/sexual needs, and that men who suffer from loneliness deserve it. One of the most popular anti-incel subreddits is called IncelTears - they know men suffer, and they like watching it. But men of all social statuses are noticing they're on thin ice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:40 PM
3

Nobody is owed anything. But its not surprising that when women are hostile to men, some men won't like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:29 PM
3

I believe so. Platonically, women constantly talk about how most men are not needed, wanted, and deserve the suffering they get in life. Romantically, women usually shut down and expect the man to figure it out by himself. It seems women only like a portion of men for what they do, and not who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:38 PM
4

You could have flaired under Black Pilled and I wouldn't have noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:18 PM
1

That's not my decision to make. My point is your problem isn't that OP is wrong, but that OP is offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:27 PM
1

OP is correct. Women aren't stupid. Women know what men want, and will pander to them in ridiculous ways to secure a high value male. But when problems arise, due to their selfishness and passivity, will withdrawl from the relationship (Witholding sex, silent treatment, bitchy behavior...) until the man proves he's high value again. Ironically, this ofter comes after the man ends the relationship, showing he's above disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:24 PM
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they expect for the man to do X, Y, Z before they do anything, almost tit for tat. OP is proven right. You know what men want, but before you can do that, they must be attracted to your "humanity".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:06 PM
2

It's the mystery box. "A good partner is a good partner, but the mysterious guy could be anything! He could even be a good partner!"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:04 AM
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No they aren't. They're saying they are average, ugly, and unremarkable. You then think that they think they they're nobody, don't deserve any better, and have no worth. This is your brain on gynocentrism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:33 AM
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Proves OPs point. Women don't want to be approached except by the top ~20% of men who already have it all. If you're an average guy, your presence is ineffective at best, threatening at worst. “average, ugly, short, unattractive, undesirable, shy, autistic, neurotic, boring”...become a guy that is worthwhile of being your best friend. None of these are character qualities that decide if I think a man should be my friend or not. It seems many people on here assign what is sexually attractive to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:05 AM
-2

Ask if they used to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:05 PM
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"Enitilement" isn't a bad thing. Its a meaningless deflection to obscure society's raw deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:58 PM
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OP is committing heresy against the gynocentric faith. I've seen more hateful, nasty, and bigoted statements reserved for incel men than murderous dictators, animal abusers, and child rapists. Being a bitter virgin is the worst thing a man can be, including and especially to "moral people".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:56 PM
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Man wants money Man works hard for money Man isn't paid Man thought he was owed money for doing the right thing Man is entitled When did you guys become social Darwinists?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:27 PM
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nobody owes you anything Nobody says this to starving children, rape victims, or people with other disabilities seeking accomodations. Because, at least subconciously, you believe loser autistic men aren't owed anything. All women, including all autistic women, hate all loser autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:02 PM
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Racists have less negative assumptions about minorities than women do of non-Chad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:54 AM
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If women have no sympathy for men who can't be chosen, men should have no sympathy for women when they choose poorly. Ironically, the less symapthetic we are too them, the more sympathetic they are to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:55 PM
3

Chasing vasopressin hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:41 AM
-4

That's the problem. You want a woman who chooses to be nice out of her own free will, then are surprised when she chooses to be nasty. Ironically, she would have been more agreeable if you had the expectation she'd be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:26 AM
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Learned your lesson. Women have a psychopathic hatred for weakness, despite being quite weak themselves. One flaw is enough to destroy an otherwise good relationship, so you need emotional distance from them at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:43 PM
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The tree is more empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:32 AM
2

Left wing politics in general is a shit test. And we're collectively acting like beta males.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:29 AM
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They would blame men for dehumanizing women and forcing emotional labour onto the tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:00 PM
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If you want any of those, you want a man in a woman's body, not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:18 PM
-6

A bangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:52 PM
-13

This is a deflection shaming the man for wanting a feminine women, and ofuscating that, except for a high value man's pleasure, she doesn't want to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:52 PM
-4

Secular Sharia Law
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:27 PM
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OP suggested otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:23 PM
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Men want to share their life, assets, and genetic legacy with someone who loves and lusts them over anyone else, not who settled because they had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:11 PM
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Its the "Women are Wonderful" effect. Both men and women want the data to show women are better than men. Saying women have their own problems, or that on average they're worse than men, is the equivilent of denying the divinity of Christ in the Middle Ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:00 PM
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Based Uncle. Red Pill likes to downplay this, but essenally all women emotionally abuse "shit test". If you have zero tolerance for abuse, you have zero tolerance for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:17 PM
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Generally not. Women are selfish by nature, so they can't understand men are different than them (lack of empathy) nor do they desire to aide others selflessly (lack of sympathy). They will say they are, but when you try to correct their crazy and nasty views towards men, they will treat you with less respect than their rapist. Their goals are selfishness through the veneer of selflessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:39 AM
0

The trad-con and manosphere assertion of femininity being inferior It is. is why many women turned away from femininity People who ask women to be feminine aren't traditional. They're either feminine or not, with the masculine not swayed by their whims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:14 PM
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AWALT. Once you get to know a woman irl, they fascade of civility drops to show the same neurotic Darwinism underneath. The women online are simply more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:55 PM
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The cute girl at Starbucks also hates (low value) men. She just doesn't do so publically. That's what the online posts are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:40 PM
2

A. They were right. B. They had autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:32 PM
23

Approaching might be easier, but women have never been less aproachable. Men are going to be less eager to initiate when women are loud about how much they dislike men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:46 PM
-1

And everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:52 PM
-3

The 19th Ammendment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:08 PM
3

No. The only people who maintain prosperity and a positive birth rate are the ones that take women's rights away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:55 PM
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Its DARVO. The best way they can continue abusive behavior is by refusing to address your complaints and punishing you for bringing them up. They also use shame because they themselves are more responsive to shame than guilt. Red Pill recommends D.A.R.E. instead of D.E.E.R. for this reason. They're more afraid of punishment than breaking their principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:17 AM
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If the group feels offended when the truth is told, many people will be dishonest so they don't hurt their feelings. You can't always tell the truth and always care about other people's feelings. Being agreeable vs disagreeable is a comparatively binary spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 06:09 PM
2

They usually conflict with one another. You can't have a man be honest, but worry about offending the group, competent, but only when the group allows him, independent, but needing the validation of others. You're asking for an Alpha-beta, contradictory and ultimately less attractive than an Alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:55 PM
2

So you prefer men making people feel good and save over being masculine, truthful, useful, and independent? Sounds like what a hive mind would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:40 PM
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Then it isn't "male-speak". It is men accurately identifying what a hive mind is and how women match the description. You've moved from "women aren't a hive mind" to "women are a hive mind and that is a good thing" in one post. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:15 PM
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Hive Mind IS the consideration of and for others. A masculine man isn't concerned about what makes people feel good and safe. He discovers what is true and what is useful, without need for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:48 PM
2

I’m asking why they don’t pursue the men THEY want/like if those men aren’t pursuing Because they don't want to be responsible. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:36 PM
2

I wasn't joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:16 PM
7

That would require them to be responsible. Meanwhile, a man asking her out shows he's willing to take responsibility in ways a dating profile never could. A leader doesn't wait to be asked to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:19 PM
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They also use makeup to look more attractive than other women by appealing to the male gaze. For themselves of course, but they will still use the principles of attraction. Not many women using makeup to appear uglier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:05 PM
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Is the "truth" that the Red Pill exposes worth missing out on the social reward of playing along with the Blue Pill? The Blue Pill says the quiet part out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:55 PM
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They should stop trying to appeal to the male gaze. Its what's on the inside that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:50 PM
-3

Of course. Why wear makeup unless you want to attract men, or use that attraction for your own benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:22 PM
-1

Two things that offend women: -Men treating women like sex objects -Men who prefer women who don't treat themselves like sex objects
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 12:49 PM
-2

This describes all women, not just feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:40 PM
4

Because we're not symmetrical. Nice girls are more attractive to men while nice guys are less attractive to women. Women desire a powerful protector who's also fun and dramatic, men want a supporter who helps maintain stability. The sexes sabotage themselves when they assume their opposite is like them and attracted to the same things they are. DISCLAIMER: This is about the POPULARITY of this cliché for males and for women. Umm, don't you mean for men and for women? Men are humans too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:09 PM
3

i'll believe its not about hierarchy when you don't use hierarchical words to describe it "Its not what you said, but how you said it" moment. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:04 PM
3

It isn't about their peers, it's about them. It's not narcissistic to want to know what is attractive and how to become that for your own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:17 PM
3

Whenever the Red Pill is brought up to women, I can't help but think of the abuser using DARVO to avoid responsibility for their abusive behavior. They deny what you see happens, attack you as a bad person, then reverse so they're the victim of you bringing it up. I've never had a good-faith conversation with a woman that didn't feature at least one of these deflections. I think women are more predatory than men, disguised by women's fundamental weakness. Its the female black widow that eats her…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:32 PM
1

You would if we were in private. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:47 PM
3

If you look at how people respond to the black pill, then yes, blue pill normies think women are so pure, it all comes down to personality, and if you can't get laid, you must be a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:42 PM
6

Nope. We tell men how the game is played and how they can become winners. If a guy decides to be resentful, that's on him, not us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:03 PM
1

Denies and dismisses others’ feelings (watch how they talk about coercion and emotional abuse)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:02 PM
9

xD You guys are so full of sh*t!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:05 PM
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You're denying and dismissing my feelings, narc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:01 PM
4

This describes women and beta males/incels, not Red Pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:06 PM
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If you were alone at a zoo and a man approached you, would you jump into the bear exhibit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:03 PM
1

If women think all men are dangerous animals, then a man who isn't threatening can't possibly be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:55 PM
1

By not giving a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:24 AM
0

I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:17 PM
0

Women would rather be mauled to death than listen to weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:07 PM
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Women are selfish, so when your arguments threaten their status, they'll punish you with DARVO rather than try to attain virtue. The data says single fathers are better than single mothers, but women (and most men) would rather harm children than put women off their pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:23 PM
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But there is a distinction between us and them. If there weren't, there'd be no us and there would be no them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:54 PM
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Actually, it is enlightening. Despite beta males pandering to women and trying to appear nonthreatening, women still have the delusion that they're more dangerous than large predatory animals. Women, cowardly and delusional by nature, are always going to think men are monsters, so its better for everyone to train men as noble beasts instead of trying to put sheep's clothing on wolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:40 PM
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As much as women say they dislike bad men, they hate average, boring men more. Men are so dangerous, they'd rather take their chances with bears, but they show no appreciation for the guy who wouldn't lift a finger against them. Thus its better to be an exciting, high value guy with a dash of danger than try to appease them and appear consistent and harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:47 PM
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Then enjoy your abusive relationship. You're your worst enemy here (and the man's).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:48 PM
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By explicitly saying such.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:41 PM
2

Never said you had to have sex with your partner, but at least be honest and preferably work together. Stay on topic or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:37 PM
2

Back to victim blaiming. You know they abuse their partners, but you think its justified. Sick!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:31 PM
2

Actually, witholding sex is considered a form of manipulative abuse. You're not abusive because you're not attracted to him, you're abusive because you're coercing him into behavior you want. Seek therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:25 PM
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Doesn't matter, its still abuse and you apologize for it. You're sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:11 PM
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Passive aggressive behavior's not it chief. You're proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:07 PM
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Its not my job to educate you. Stop acting entitled and fix yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:57 PM
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You're womansplaining men's loneliness to men. When we say we're lonely becaude we don't have girlfriends, you explain we're actually lonely because we don't have more male friends, and switch the topic. Its arguing in bad faith because you don't listen to the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:56 PM
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He's unaware and ignorant on how to deal with passive aggressive abuse. You're victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:44 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:43 PM
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If you don't decide to end the relationship, yeah, it is passive aggressive abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:41 PM
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If you are still in the relationship, no, that's not amazing. You're irritated because he's not fixing the problem, and he's irritated because he doesn't even know what the problem is. It decays the relationship at best and destroys it at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:59 PM
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Men are not great at detecting passive aggressive behavior, especially if he thinks his SO would never be passive aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:19 PM
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Its useful for finding an ideal man, but it harms relationships because most men are not ideal and she doesn't want to help them improve. Its passive aggressive if she refuses to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:17 PM
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We call them betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:34 PM
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Sure you can. Men have done so for thousands of years. You're projecting your own view of love onto men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:44 PM
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Men love women, women respect men. The gender conflicts today come from men expecting love from women, and women expecting respect from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:33 PM
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The "Just Get It" Principle - if a man has to be told how to be the right man, he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:20 PM
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We can nitpick over wording, but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:17 PM
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Trying to get women to empathize with men How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:29 PM
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Yes. Men possess strength, women possess the means to manipulate that strength and have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:59 PM
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"The Sisterhood" is the selfishness of women advocated through a collective. And since they are selfish, they're not beneath betraying the collective for their personal benefit, or dragging down others to keep the benefits rolling. The "pick-me" is a violation of their principle of selfishness on the individual and collective level, and thus does not have an equivilent in men, who are more selfless in behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:49 PM
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Hard disagree. Commitment itself is a turn-off to women. You need to put her on a bit of edge, or she'll think you are desperate. Your assumptions are wrong and pathetic. Unavailability works with 1 girl or many, but multiple girls allow you to shift your attention to fulfill your relationship needs. Its okay if one plate slows down, you have 3 others to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:54 PM
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Biology disagrees. Unless you want to castrate men, the best way for men to keep women off the pedestal is to be pleased with a multitude of women who feel beneath him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:37 PM
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Men already have friends, family, and hobbies. Why get more just to impress a woman? If you want sex, get it from multiple sources so no one source is smothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:48 PM
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Spinning plates is a hobby AND a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:40 PM
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One of the hardest to internalize Red Pill Truths is that you spin plates for women's sake more than your own. They don't want to be a man's only option. Even a non-desperate man who thinks she's legitimately special is falling for a feminine ruse not even she believes. The leader has to keep his distance from the follower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:51 PM
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Men are the only demographic you are allowed to dehumanize as less than animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:56 PM
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The problem is that women advocate for equality while wanting someone who has more than them. You have your justifications why women should want inequality, but it is still inequality, similiar to what was advocated by the patriarchy equalists dismantled. Pink Pill is dishonest Red Pill to get the best for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:06 PM
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But it's different for them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:03 PM
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So the entire idea of a bluepill man is to be redpilled but pretend like you aren't to avoid shame or act like you're superior somehow. Add women, left wingers, and to some extent, most neurotypical people, and you're on the money. It is selfishness through collectivism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:58 PM
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This. The Red Pill stresses you should always game your partner, especially in an LTR, but this is for the woman's sake, not his. We want to win games, not play them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:47 PM
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Bonobos are known for their friendly nature and lack of aggression. In that friendly setting, bonobo males often seem to invest in friendly relationships with particular females. The researchers wondered whether those "friendships" were leading to greater paternity success for those males. The researchers had hypothesized that bonobo females' freedom to choose their mates would mean a more balanced distribution of paternity amongst males in the group. But they found just the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:13 PM
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The secret reason why Red Pill tells you to spin plates - the polygamy is a big plus, but it also allows you to be as noncommittal as women are. Women want men who don't make her a priority because she herself doesn't make men her priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:10 AM
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Well then I don't know why you're moaning at me for, since I said nothing to offend you. You lack security in your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:05 AM
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You're more offended by an accusation I didn't make (women need to settle with betas) than saying women choose abusive men. Perhaps you don't find the latter offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:35 PM
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I was talking about being slapped, not asking for sex. xD Guess that offends you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:23 PM
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Most women would rather risk being slapped once and leaving than spending forty-fifty years getting used by a man she regards as a brother or father figure. Saying the quiet part out loud. It could be once...or three times...or four...the risk is worth it over the men who make her feel safe and comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:13 PM
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Feel safe by dating the most violent, selfish bad boy in town? Serious cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:07 PM
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You're off on a crazy tangent to defend women dating abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 11:01 PM
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Never said otherwise? One of the most important, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:51 PM
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Sex is great. But women don't need to fuck abusive men to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:19 PM
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And women will date abusive men over non-abusive "misogynists" because they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:11 PM
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See? Even "Blue Pill" women admit they choose abusive men. They have their reasons why they choose abusive men...but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:51 PM
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Oh apologies, women "mutually beneficial endeavor" with abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:38 PM
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She is a victim with a victim complex, because she chose and is choosing to remain a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:59 PM
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Maybe they should drop the victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:52 PM
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Agreed. It is wrong and silly for women to date men they know are abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:35 PM
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We hold men accountable. It seems your problem is that we also hold women accountable. Wife beaters are bad...AND the women who reward wife beaters with love and sex. Criminals are bad...AND the single mothers who chose to put their child in a high risk environment. Remember - women are personality detectors. They can smell that shit. If women don't date unattractive men because they can tell they are misogynists, they can tell the abusive men they choose to date are abusive. Stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:26 PM
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I already said it was okay, but we need to be honest about it. Your defensiveness implies you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:49 PM
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...why should they like you better than you like yourself? Why should they have faith in you that you don't have in yourself? Why should they put up with a you that's probably never going to improve? Because none of these are about what a man is, but what he can provide. And that too is okay, but we need to be honest about what woman want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:36 PM
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Poor people want to be poor. Black people want to experience discrimination. Amputees don't want to walk...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:11 PM
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Unattractive = Awful? Sadly that's the case these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:51 PM
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A. They're not attracted to the average man. B. They understand men are spending their prime years alone, they just think those men deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:39 PM
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I think those were the classical liberals, who honestly believed in equality and freedom, vs leftists who use equality and freedom to advance themselves at the cost of others. Much of the former have moved on or taken the L on the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:29 PM
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The Blue Pill doesn't actually disagree with the Red Pill. They just think gynocentrism is a good thing. When Red Pillers say, and largely prove, it is a bad thing, they feel personally attacked, so they DARVO to avoid responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:44 PM
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Nope. You're given information, you choose if you like or don't like women, then you choose how you act on that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:36 AM
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They're just concepts. They're either right or wrong, and you choose how to use them. Do you want to censor discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:01 AM
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No. With the exception of radical incels, the "manosphere" is about guys discussing the nature of men and women and how to be attractive and successful. It is the choice of individual men to turn to violence instead of bettering themselves or making peace with their situation. If we're accountable for telling the truth, we were never told telling the truth was bad, and if we're accountable for being wrong, then the problem is that we're wrong, and worrying about violence is concern trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:31 AM
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Women (and left wing "men") are two-faced on this issue. They love romance, relationships, and sex, and will not tolerate one restriction on their pleasure-seeking, but when men suffer from loneliness, they become puritans who can't fathom why men would want the sins of the flesh. It indicates their focus is stuck on themselves - what's good for them is good, what's good for others is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:47 PM
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They should cool it with the black pill nonsense. It was probably because when she was fat, she had a bad personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:22 PM
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I didn't say complaining. I said "express their own suffering from loneliness". Like in the above video.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:42 PM
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Because women do this. When men were vocalizing their suffering from loneliness, women almost universally said we don't need you, we don't want you, your suffering isn't a big deal, and you deserve it. So when women express their own suffering from loneliness, they give her the same treatment. You got what you desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:14 AM
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I don't think you should be required to date autistic men, but I don't think you can be pro-autistic when you don't date them, label them with stereotypes that would get you fired if used on other demographics of people, and blame/shame autistic men frustrated they can't get a relationship. People say they're fine with autism, but when you start talking to them, they sound like members of the S.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:26 PM
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Friendships between men and women don't work out. Too often one of you will treat the other better than typical friends, and when things don't escalate, you're expected to keep that beyond-typicalness, despite your suffering. In this case, he's expected to take care of her physical needs, but she isn't expected to take care of his emotional needs. You must take care of yourself and not put yourself in that situation in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:11 PM
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It sometimes feels like an out-and-out majority of women who regularly post here are snarky trolls with nothing substantive to add, and a total inability to even briefly call into question their own world-view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:37 PM
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Monkey branching from tree to tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:23 AM
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Men want a consistent polygamy, women want one a nonconsistent monogamy. This is offuscated because polygamy is naturally unstable and monogamy stable, but explains the above behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:34 AM
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You're ranting when we essentially agree. Men are the ones who want commitmemt, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:25 AM
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Women don't want to settle down. Women have to settle down. That's why they call it "settling down".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 11:40 PM
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Women think attraction is moral in nature. So they will never admit a man can be fundamentally unattractive, and will usually find a way to blame the man. If only those evil short boys put her down gently, then she would go crazy over them...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:45 PM
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Same here. You're either a 1 or a 0, with no inbetween. And no, red pulled guys, get out with your "You shouldn't expect her to be able to talk, you see, she has vagina". Women should be able to communicate as normal people. You think of women and how they should be. We're concerned with how women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:05 PM
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The posts don't say they don't want to date autistic men or they don't like Red Pilled autistic men. They say they don't like autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:03 PM
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That's racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:28 PM
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In the court of law, Brown v. Board of Education says "seperate, but equal" is inherently unequal. Men and women are not equal, because they are men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:10 PM
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Not only do neurotypical women not like autistic men, you can go to r/autisminwomen and find posts with hundreds or 1000+ upvotes saying they don't like autistic men. Women may virtue signal to help out autistic children, but once you are a man, they will not excuse your crime of being born weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:05 PM
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A sex doll or anime character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:13 PM
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"How do I become attractive without becoming attractive?" You can't. You can restrain yourself for personal reasons, but you won't get a girl for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:08 PM
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You talk like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:36 PM
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Inability, not lack of will. Would you say women, with the options of making a sacrifice to save society or letting society die so they can blame men, are choosing to blame men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:59 PM
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Well, I guess I have to remind you... I don't give a shit if it's causing population collapse. I'm not going to forfeit an education, abandon my career and settle down with a man I'm not attracted too to "sAvE" SOciETy". Women won't save society not because they're unable to, but they don't want to. They are telling you who they are. Believe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:47 PM
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No, they don't want to. Read the top post. She's saying what most women are thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:40 PM
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No. Red Pillers can't save society. Traditionalist men who want to save society are vastly outnumbered by women, blue pilled men, and conservatives who value selfish freedom over selfless duty. Society doesn't want to be saved, and sacrificing for such a society makes the ones who wish to save it weaker and the ones who don't stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:47 PM
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Men have been femininized, atomized, and hold no authority to change the situation. Can't save a society that doesn't want to and refuses to be saved. Women aren't attracted to stay-at-home dads. You'd make women even more bitter and sterile by trying to transform men into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:04 PM
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Also - I don't give a shit if it's causing population collapse. I'm not going to forfeit an education, abandon my career and settle down with a man I'm not attracted too to "sAvE" SOciETy". Thus why society needed to oppress women for centuries. If women have to choose between saving society or benefiting themselves, they'll sacrifice society (and lose what they gained).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:50 PM
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The free market does not work without regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:59 AM
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Women love men for what they do. A man who can do nothing for them is worthless. Men love women for who they are. She may fail in the relationship, but there will remain many aspects he still enjoys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:28 AM
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If you're percieved as an Alpha, you can't go too fast. If you're percieved as a beta, you can't go too slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:07 AM
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Ironically, as much as men and women hate the "Nice Guy TM", they have nothing to give to the man who's a "Legitimate Nice Guy". They like, and are willing to give to, the Legitimate Asshole. Men sabotage themselves by taking the crowd's demands in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:59 PM
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When you ask people what a "legitimate nice guy" is, their unanimous answer is a guy who does nice things without expectations of anything in return. Having a will of your own at all is a problem, and trying to compromise as a "strong good guy" makes them hate you more than the legitimate asshole. The "legitimate nice guy" goal is for saints, conformists, or manipulators trying to create a passive populace.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:51 PM
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Oh yeah, its great for men. But they will often take the sex without giving intimacy, resources, or commitment in return. In the long run, the wife earns more from one man than the prostitute. Giving the milk away leaves the cow penniless and makes them look cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:47 PM
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Give a man ice cream for dessert, and he won't be disgusted. Give a man ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and he will. The same is true with promiscuous women. We want them as a side, not the main course, and the thought of them as such grosses us out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:25 PM
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No. Similarily, we think promiscous women "taste good." Great for a snack, but we'll spend most of our money on real food.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:10 PM
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Get a waifu not because women won't love you. Get a waifu because women can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:36 PM
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It tastes good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:08 PM
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Fallacious reasoning. Advice should be ignored because it is wrong, not because you don't like the person giving it to you. Women seem to care about how a thing is said over what is said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:04 PM
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Women hate weakness bro. Be strong, physically and mentally, never show your vulnerability, act like a politician, because she doesn't care about your struggles I'm a Blue Pill Man Frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:00 PM
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Familiarity breeds contempt...in women. Friendship involves getting familiar, being vulnerable, and always be at each other's side. Women are attracted to mysterious, invulnerable men whose assessment of her is in question. A man who is better than her, not her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:19 PM
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This isn’t to say that being emotionless makes a man more or less attractive Hard disagree. Women desire unemotional men because she wants him to deal with her emotions. Also, If you approach her cool and uninvested, she's more likely to think you're not desperate, a man with many options deciding to pick her. You can have emotions, all men do, but don't reveal your cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:11 AM
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She's a woman who is slightly more honest than the rest. This is the norm, not the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:01 AM
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Men: We are lonely and suffering. Can you help us out? Women: When you work harder. Men: We did. Can you help us out? Women: When you work harder. Men: We did. Can you help us out? Women: When you work harder... Don't fall for the DARVO gentlemen. Her actions speak louder than words. They don't care about your loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:15 PM
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Sadly the case. I prefer equitable relationships in theory, but in practice women hate providing for the man's needs (muh emotional labour, muh mommy bangmaid...) and will start getting passive-aggressive and aggressive-agressive to avoid responsibility. You have to convince her you're so high value, the best way to serve herself is by serving you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:53 PM
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When I think of a “good person” I think of these character traits: kind, compassionate, considerate, thoughtful Women don't find these traits attractive as they do not embody them themselves. Go on any forum that's majority women and you'll see a place filled with malicious and emotional tiraids. I've lost an FWB myself because I tried to talk her out of her bitch-screed. Women like nice personality traits...sometimes. But they like selfish, dangerous, and pitiless traits more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:38 PM
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Redpill is about valuing yourself above all others, something that everyone should do. This does not mean use and abuse others for your own benefits The former doesn't exclude the latter, and the latter often upholds the former. The "bad boy with a heart of gold" - selfish and sufficent, yet for some reason pro-social in his excess - is a contradictory fantasy women and weak men imagine to throw on their responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:05 PM
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Its a shit test. Women want to keep betas pursuing and delivering benefits, but only respect the Alpha they pursue. Even if Simone is more valuable on paper, a man who refuses to put her on a pedestal can be more valueable to her than a million ass-kissing betas. Relationships are best when women's resistance is willingly forgone out of arousal instead of men trying to force it open.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:46 PM
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That is how they percieve their beta buxs. The men who give her more than financial benefit are the Alphas she genuinely desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:29 PM
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Love bombing by a woman who usually doesn't like men, but wants the resources and attention of a percieved Alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:26 PM
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Masculine men cannot respect women, anymore than feminine women can love men. Yet women can't respect men they can't look up to, and men can't love these shrews that demand to be seen as equals. Patriarchy fixes this by putting men above women. Inequality allows women to respect men, and men to love women. Equality kills the attraction. As the ones who destroyed patriarchy, its up to men to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:25 PM
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Men argue to find the truth, women argue to win. They know the Pills are true, but they don't want the cat out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:02 PM
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AWALT. They're all shallow, immature, headcase bitches, and if you think you have a "good woman", you probably have a woman that does the bare minimum of sane thinking, or has successfully tricked you so she can unleash the shrew later on. Buzz is the fox from Aesop's Fables, telling himself he wouldn't have wanted those sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:40 PM
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Women won't start chasing men because A. They only chase a handful of Alphas. B. They like it when men initiate (not chase) despite her lack of signals, because it shows he doesn't need her validation. Women love men who don't love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:57 PM
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I I I
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:12 PM
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Take your meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:14 PM
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Af;bb in a nutshell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:05 PM
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Women with no self respect That would be most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:55 PM
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Its not my job to educate you. Figure it out for yourself or risk settling with some loser who has none.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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Acting nicer, more agreeable and submissive, more sexually active and fun, going out of her way to give you gifts, more tolerant of your flaws, allowing you to have side chicks or even join them...women will do just about anything for a fun, high value man whose investment in her is up in the air.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:39 PM
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By tolerating or investing harder in a man once he's shown he has options. If he's frequently attracting other women, who usually have high standards, it indicates he's a high value man. There's also the excitement factor of dating a Bad Boy who doesn't follow the rules. Again, cheating is risky, but men amd women have different reactions to their partner's nonmonogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:24 PM
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Since women often tolerate or reward nonmongamous men, it looks like they too consider it high value behavior. Its risky to cheat and betray you partner's trust, but women are more concerned about emotional cheating than physical cheating. And yes, if you're high value enough, some do go as far as liking consensual cuckqueaning. You need to talk to more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:05 PM
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From Wikipedia: Logic is the study of correct reasoning. It includes both formal and informal logic. Formal logic is the science of deductively valid inferences or logical truths. It studies how conclusions follow from premises due to the structure of arguments alone, independent of their topic and content. Informal logic is associated with informal fallacies, critical thinking, and argumentation theory....Frans H. van Eemeren writes that the label "informal logic" covers a "collection of normat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:06 PM
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You don't have good definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:26 PM
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Most definitions of logic are task/goal based Sure, a woman may act logically, like it is logical for a cheetah to hunt its prey, but her thought proccesses are not logical, at least when compared to men. they require that everyone is aligned on the principles of validity. Useless definition if it doesn't include truth within itself. Hivemind thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:35 PM
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Usually what I notice is that he’s calling it “illogical” because he doesn’t agree with her desired outcomes OR because he doesn’t understand her imperatives. No. Logic isn't concerned with achieving outcomes, but what is true. A woman who overcomes her grief by imagining her loved one is in heaven is achieving her ideal outcomes, but she is not thinking logically. The manosphere has a word for using "logic" to achieve predetermined goals - hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:04 PM
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my male relatives told me shit like "it's inner beauty that matters" and "just be yourself". Looks like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:22 AM
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"Po-tate-o is not the same as po-tat-o."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:21 AM
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They're the same sentence written in two different ways. "We're Blue Pillers. The Red Pill is the Blue Pill." Okay, so they're Red Pillers that are too dishonest to call themselves such.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:55 PM
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The Feminist Gaslight - They denied, shamed, and threatened Red Pill ideas for decades, and now that their ideology is under pressure from both men and women who see the damage of feminizing men, rather than take responsibility, they say "What Blue Pill? We've always been Red Pilled." Or "It's your fault for believing in the Blue Pill." It is quite common to see on here. Women won't stop blaming men, but will change their reasons why they blame men to keep the hamster running.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:31 PM
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I wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:49 PM
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No? I meant behaviors that are actually productive vs damaging to society, not perceived as such by society. No point in debating with passive aggressive BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:00 AM
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The only projection going on is believing women are more attracted to pro-social masculinity over anti-social masculinity to maintain the character of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:30 AM
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And it seems like the lion's share of those men who pump and dump her vanish off into the night. She's fine fucking those men. And if a "good guy" tries to be better than those men by offering commitment, even if he legitimately wants it, she'll lose attraction because she now knows he's less like those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:54 PM
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Most relationships don't come from casual hookups. Usually the man has to signal some degree of commitment before advancing the relationship. At worst, he's getting what the Bad Boy gets for free, or at best, he's getting the same as the Bad Boy despite his efforts being a "good guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:27 PM
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Women don't give their commitment to high value men. They give their sex. If one man has to give her commitment while the other doesn't, the latter is who she's more attracted to. "I could have totally slayed her, but I chose to commit" is the cope of the "good guy" slowly losing attraction in his relationship because he had to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:41 PM
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And thus, The Red Pill is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:28 PM
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For the woman whose goal is to feel lusty über alles, she will settle (at least for a short spell) for the "behaviorally masculine decently good looking guy of questionable/poor character" if the one of good character is no where to be found. So the Good Alpha has to wait until she thinks he meets her high standards, while the Bad Alpha gets immediate, uncommital sex based on her pure desire. This is Af;bb in a pretty dress. Men and women have different definitions for what is masculine, and unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:11 PM
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Mean girl, named after a demon, trying to convince us to not be the mean guy, but don't expect any p!ssy for being the good guy. Easy sh!t test to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:17 PM
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I see no problem with this. The rising tide raises all boats.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:30 PM
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You can't keep up the Alpha-beta scheme if the betas realize they have a raw deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:32 PM
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Yes. In fact, by creating so much comfort and connection, you're decreasing your attraction because a man of higher value would not have given her this much attention. You have to keep her on edge, like you're able and willing to leave the relationship at any moment, but are so attracted to her, you decide to stick around...for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:56 AM
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NMMNG boils down to more "believe in yourself" Blue Pilled garbage. Thinking you're loveable doesn't solve anything if you're not actually loved. Red Pill teaches you how to be loveable and have confidence that's built on results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:50 PM
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Women (including dominant women) think a man's value is in how p!ssy he pulls. If he can't pull p!ssy, there must be something wrong with him, not with the unfortunate circumstances and certainly not with women themselves. Given the chance to start at square one, women have rebuilt themselves into sex objects who must be conquered by successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:49 PM
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I think it is possible to have Red Pilled entertainment. You can look all the way back to The Epic of Gilgamesh and see an awareness of the fickleness of love. Our culture is like a man addicted to sweets - food that could have been fine in small doses, but the feeling is so good, he consumes junk when a variety of healthier options would have sufficed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:04 AM
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A. Most of these guys are genuinely nice. Despite women's constant demonization of the beta male who doesn't want to cuck himself and die alone, they do believe in treating others as good or better than yourself, following the rules, and being empathetic are the right things to do. Becoming the Bad Boy goes against everything he believes in, that brought the order and success to his life, if he is able to act like one at all. B. Becoming a Bad Boy doesn't get you a Good Woman who wants to behave…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:58 AM
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Not only is this blatantly untrue (if it was, society would have no issue with the Red Pill), you debunk yourself in your own post. The most important woman in a man's life and the stories made to guide his morals are Blue Pilled, yet it's the man's fault for not seeing through the lies. This is gaslighting abuse by women, unable to disprove the Red Pill in fair debate, to trick men into thinking the deception wasn't that bad, and if it was, you're still at fault because real nice guys don't com…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:49 PM
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If that's what the Blue Pill has to offer, no wonder why many men want no part of it. Blue Pill trains you to be the beta women will eventually want, Red Pill trains you to be the Alpha women will always crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:26 PM
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By reading the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:55 PM
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Wrong. Toxic masculinity is masculinity. They'll pay lip-service to getting rid of " bad masculinity", but if you see their end goals, they want all masculinity replaced, except for a little room to keep their boy toys dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:21 PM
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Textbook example of female deflection. She doesn't deny she doesn't care about men, but distracts the reader by blaming men. You can say the blame is or isn't justified, but the point remains - she doesn't care about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:49 PM
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I don't know about BPD, but a popular theory for autism is that its from prenatal testosterone exposure. The autist's need for stability, rationality, and quick frustration are an exaggeration of what a man needs to retain dominance. Meanwhile, Cluster B disorders resemble women's constant striving, amped up until they can't be satiated. This difference balances mankind from being top stable or unstable, but prevents a perfect connection between men and women, especially on the extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:26 PM
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They are good at caring for others, but might not care for the people they care for. Also, iicr, people can be fine with one kidney, so while its nice, it isn't as risky as it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:10 PM
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No. Women have to care about others because they are too selfish to risk themselves alone. Men have to care about themselves because society is willing to risk men. Men were given authority because they took responsibility. No feminists in foxholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:44 PM
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Solipsism is about caring about oneself first, even to the harm of others, and interpreting the world only through your own perspective. Knowledge doesn't factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:29 PM
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Villian invades the city. One man decides to sacrifice himself and stop the villian, the other puts himself first and does nothing. Men prefer the former, women prefer the latter. I prefer a society where people sacrifice themselves (to some degree) for the greater good, but unfortunately this is a difference across gendered lines. Masculine men don't need the validation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:10 PM
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Straight from the horse's mouth. To women, people who do what they want, even at the cost of others, are the real good guys, while those who are critical of them are the real bad guys. Men aren't selfless, but certainly more so than women. Hence women acted better when they were under male control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:52 PM
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-Putting others before or equal to themselves -Respecting the needs, struggle, and value of others -Looking classy and attractive -Choosing partners responsibly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:43 PM
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Women were always like this. Now that their physical and social environment no longer pressures them to behave, they do what they want - act in selfish, grotesque ways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:13 PM
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You misunderstand. The Wall doesn't mean women over 30 can't attract men. They can't attract high value men. Betas will be there at the finish line, but the women will subconciously understand both of them could have done better. The subsequent resentment makes older women nastier, in looks and personality, than younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:15 PM
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Nope. It comes down to solipsism. Women are internally-oriented, men are externally-oriented. Or more cynically, women are the ends seeking their means, men are means seeking their ends. We can't feel a sense of accomplishment flexing in front of a mirror all day. Masculine confidence comes from succeeding in competition against other men, knowing the walk can back up the talk. For women, self-preservation is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:49 PM
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Having sex doesn't make a person better or worse. If people actually believed this, people would say men who can't have sex are unattractive instead of saying they're bad people. Instead, people, especially women, assume he has a bad personality, is a misogynist, a whiner, or having some other moral defect preventing him from getting dates. Presenting yourself as a man who can pull is one of the best things you can do for people's assessment of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:56 PM
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Alternatively... He said what he said. If he meant this, he would have said it. People take kindness for granted. women want to be treated with respect and kindness they expect it and appreciate it but if you do it to get in their pants you're not doing it because you love them or care you're doing it to get off Alpha fux, beta bux. They want respect and kindness from betas, but they get off when Alphas disrespect them like a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:15 AM
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Nothing, since its not wearing off. Sure, men understand women act differently, but they will think women are justified to treating sperm as cheap and eggs as expensive. Men love women for who they are, not what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:19 PM
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Ever think about the women rewarding this behavior instead of blaming the men? What is one of the most common fantasies among women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:06 PM
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The only one complaining is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:57 PM
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Its a shit test. Women will say they don't want to be approached, but if you approach her anyways, you'll show you don' give a f*ck because you are higher value and know what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:15 PM
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You're both right. You're describing the same action, but from a feminine internal vs masculine external perspective. "I keep myself attractive for myself, because people who are attracted to me will benefit me" vs "I keep myself attractive for others, because it benefits others if they see me as attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:32 PM
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Answered my question by not answering it! I don't mind women being gold diggers as long as they are honest and not malacious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:20 PM
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Women would rather let your leftist cause die than pair with suboptimal men. If you can't beat fascism without fascism, maybe you should reconsider left wing politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:51 PM
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Correct, but women would rather destroy civilization than settle with a sub-optimal partner. Your plan could only be brought about by a patriarchy willing to ignore the complaints of women, and most men aren't willing to sacrifice female validation for that responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:44 PM
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"Trolling"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:34 PM
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Women want to submit to a more powerful man. And its not submission if the man has to ask. As much as women say they hate the patriarchy, there will always be more man-hating feminism in countries that give women's rights on a plater than third-world shitholes that rape like crazy and cut off their clits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:32 PM
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If you were equal to OP, you would have addressed him directly instead of this woe-is-me response. Men are better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:26 PM
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Look at any cover of a romance novel. It is women, not men, who have unrealistic body standards, projecting their thoughts onto men and spiraling around their own hysteria when most men just want you to not be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:08 PM
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None of those women will lack suitors from reasonable men. But they will not be attracted to their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:57 PM
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This makes the naive mistake that people, especially women, care about a person's effort and not who they are. Evolved to be egoistic and hate weakness, they will isolate themselves from the bad, scapegoat them for their problems, and abuse them to protect themselves and feel good. The misinformation, ignorance, and malice towards the low are the feature, not the bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:20 PM
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Bring back arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:51 PM
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I call this the Red Pill - Pink Pill Horseshoe. Red Pill sees the differences between men and women and accepts them as they are, women see the differences and blame men. If Barbie is the trend, feminists are aware of biological differences, intersexual competition, and the limits of equality, but side against the patriachy anyways. Its a refusal to take responsibility which will leave us with neither the equality of their dreams or a patriarchy than can deal with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:19 PM
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The light switch effect. First she was turned on, now she's turned off, with no inbetween. Make sure you're prepared to ditch her as easily as she can and at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:30 PM
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If bullying correlates with attractiveness, at best, it means people are willing to tolerate it. At worst, bullying signals you're attractive. No W to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:14 AM
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"If you can't bully him, women won't be attracted to bullying." Sage wisdom. If the beta was tall and muscular and still got shoved in the mud by Chad, the women would still want Chad. Strength is nothing if not used, even in callous ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:36 PM
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Better to be a king in the mud than a servant on the grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:23 PM
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I'd want women to not reward emotional abuse, not spread emotionally abusive genes to the next generation, and help end emotional abuse, but unfortunately its the opposite case. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:59 PM
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It works. In fact, I've lost FWBs for not being mean enough or too vulnerable. But I'd rather be a good person than attract women. My sex dolls are a lot nicer. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:42 PM
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Of course. If women are attracted to power and are irresponsible with it, why give it away for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:32 PM
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Weird how Team Personality is quick to blame the incel for noting women's unsavory behavior, but zips their lips when Chad shoves a beta into the mud with two girls giggling beside him. I mean, they're not wrong - it does comes down to personality. You need a bad personality to attract women. After all, who are bigger bullies than women themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:27 PM
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Women want the Bad Boy Alpha Male, but if given a choice between the two of them, I'm increasingly convinced the Bad Boy wins out - the signals of confidence and ability to have fun are more important than genuine success and stability. Women will want to "fix" this man, not because of perceived suffering (look at how women treat incels/betas), but because its an excuse to hang out with him and try to earn his commitment. "Nice Girl" Strategy, but at least "Nice Girls" sometimes succeed in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:39 PM
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"We like kindness. But if you think we'd be attracted to it, you're a "Nice Guy". And if you're proud of it, you're a "Nice Guy". And if you want people to be kind to you, you're a "Nice Guy". If you argue you're not a "Nice Guy", you're a "Nice Guy"." Thank f*ck I don't want to be a genuinely kind guy, you guys are the world's whipping boy. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:16 PM
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This, but unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:50 PM
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Chris Hemworth's appearence There's the rub. They think he's hotter, not that he's better cause he plays the good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:16 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:02 PM
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Think of the hero archetype...Do you think ANY woman would hear this description of a man and be turned off? Its not a turn on. Women don't dream of f*cking Superman, as much as men want them to. They're attracted to dominance, which is often ancillary or contrary to virtuous behavior. And as much as men want to sell the positive Alpha, women, who are sensitive and irrational, will still frequently judge your "assertive kindness" as weakness, and the Bad Boy's assholeness as assertiveness. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:06 PM
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Blue Pill wants short, fat, and ugly guys pulling beautiful women, so they project want they want to the outside world instead of observing it for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:45 AM
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Look at the average forum where women can express themselves uncensored. r/TwoX, r/Feminism, r/PPD, FDS, Tumblr, etc. Does it look like they enjoy being kind to people? Most women choose selfishness and spite over kindness and understanding. If you're a guy who treats everybody well, whose needs are equal or above your own, she'll think you're a chump who she can't relate to. You shouldn't be nice because she's not nice - she's passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:24 AM
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Because she wants sex and children. Traditional relationships were stronger than the for-love "non-transactional" relationships of today. It leads to expectations the other sex can't meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:51 AM
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Children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:26 AM
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I get into relationships for sex. A 6/10 relationship in the bedroom, 10/10 out is a 6/10 relationship. "F*ck yes" or bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:06 AM
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Ironically, Blue Pillers are the most responsible for the "Nice Guy" epidemic. When these men see most women are unattracted to them, they think they're missing the security women claim they want (and men themselves secretly desire). Red/Black Pill explains women are only attracted to a narrow portion of men who often make them tingle with insecurity. They'd learn not to embrass themselves with self-sabotaging behavior. But Blue Pill would rather preserve the belief in equality to keep women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:04 PM
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Based!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:52 AM
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If those mathmaticians were women, I'd check with a manmatician first!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:21 PM
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"Women aren't a monolith." - All women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:03 PM
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If you don't need her, she'll need you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:31 PM
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There is no second step. "Enjoy the decline." Because its less an issue of knowledge and more where people place their priorities. "Blue Pill" is increasingly aware of men and women's differences, but think men and women deserve equal treatment regardless. Most men (including "Red Pill" men) aren't willing to create a society based around that difference if it is percieved as restricting women. Its best to use the knowledge in ways most suitable for yourself than try to convince men out of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:56 PM
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Women want the Bad Boy Alpha Male. In the school environment, the highest status male happens to be a child. And who is more irresponsible than an actual child? A literal Bad "Boy".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:15 PM
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No. Women are more malicious because they are more self-centered and emotional. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:06 PM
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I'm not disappointed women are Chad chasing. I'm disappointed women deny it or blame men for not being Chad. My ideal society would be Secular Sharia or Gilead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:12 PM
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If you aren't pleasant, having sex with me, or cleaning the house, what do you have to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:10 PM
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Fidelio by Ludwig van Beethoven
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:38 PM
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Traditionalism and progressivism are two sides of the same gynocentric coin. One offers the man's slavery to the woman, the other promises her freedom. Neither are concerned with the man's freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:37 PM
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taps the sign
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:30 AM
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Compatibility and alignment? Don't make me tap the sign! I want a woman who's warm, affectionate, and cooks and cleans
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:22 AM
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I've got my bros for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:02 AM
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Both. I want a woman who's warm, affectionate, and cooks and cleans, preferably more than I. "I'm NoT yOu'Re MoThEr!" Well okay, then you are a sex object to me. Not interested in your achievements, opinions, or goals, I already have mine. I love women for love and sex, the former of which they cannot consistently provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:21 AM
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No. If you're not pleasant and can't/won't cook and clean ("mommy at home" stuff"), and I'm not having sex with you, I'm not interested. Everything you can do, a man can do better, as well as things you can't do at all. Men should prefer men, who share commonality with them, over women, their opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:52 AM
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You underestimate how much women value superficial appearances. To most, the byproduct guarantees the product.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:59 AM
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Unjust system. Don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:09 AM
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All women have mental health issues thou
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:57 PM
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Women tell men to be betas, but are sexually attracted to Alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:53 PM
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From Psychology Today: Confidence is a belief in oneself, the conviction that one has the ability to meet life's challenges and to succeed Nature wants us to reproduce with winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:51 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. But it at least protects the man's assets while giving his children a better home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:21 PM
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A man isn't entitled to sex. This is true. But a woman isn't entitled to a man's commitment. In a just system, a man should be able to divorce his wife and retain custody of his children. Ironically, because women would be kept on their toes, they'd be less likely to abstain from intimacy under this policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:50 PM
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Still plugged in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:46 PM
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Because it makes you look better than her. And as much as women get frustrated by the indifferent Alpha, their scorn for men on their level or beneath them is far more intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:38 PM
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Hence the need to force the relationship. xD You have to make it look like you're selfishly raising a family and her presence is incidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:31 PM
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I disagree. Women hate concessions, because if the man compromises, he looks like he's degrading himself to get some p*ssy, and women don't want to compromise because they want to be provided for. Women love relationships when both partners are pursuing their raw self-interest, and happen to get together out of mutual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:07 PM
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Given the number of divorces and dead bedrooms out there, yes, you need to force women to maintain the relationship. If you have to ask, you're submitting to someone who hates those beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:42 PM
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Diet Red Pill. The most effective long-term relationships are when the woman feels inferior to the man. If you raise her up, she'll use that height to spit down on you, or if you're equal, in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:12 PM
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If you're only submissive when you want to, you're not submitting. You're a fake dominant trying to find a submissive to dominate you. This can't work out, and is leading to rising female unhappiness, single motherhood, and misandry. When men go on and on about women's submission, they're telling on themselves and their inability to inspire that from the woman they're with. Nope. I find female submission unattractive, but it is the best way to make society functional and keep women happy. Its fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:04 PM
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Its okay to teach fat women not to hate themselves. Its not okay to teach fat women they're beautiful, and lower our standards of beauty to accomodate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:55 PM
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Nuiance is used as a hammer against rational thinking. Red Pill points to a pattern, Blue Pill points to a small exception to the pattern, the observed pattern is discarded, repeat until Red Pill has a functioning view of how the world works ("rules"), Blue Pill does not and thinks things just happen in a just way (magical thinking). If you're not willling to call somethings true, other things false, you can't get a conception of the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:35 PM
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Hahahaha. No, we don't. Either that or it may just be a bad idea to love this person. Probably the latter. Are you saying that women should instead think that 150 (or however many he's crossed paths with) women are all wrong? Took you one sentence to spin your hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:57 PM
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Women hate ugly men and incels. Due to women's anti-rational hamster, they can't seperate their emotions from reality. They don't think "He's ugly, therefore I'm not attracted to him", they think "I'm not attracted to him, therefore he's ugly." "No women love him? Then there is nothing in him to love. Eww." If it weren't for hard video proof and his public history, most women would say that the man just has a bad personality (as only good people get treated well and get laid). Women don't treat …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:50 PM
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Men tolerate women's bad behavior, so women might as well be rude and demanding to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 10:38 AM
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To serve my country when my country threatens me too. Otherwise? None - I'm not a cuck. Responsibility without authority is slavery. You're not even disagreeing with me, you're using the age-old shaming tactic to guilt-trip men into accepting a shitty offer. We're no longer falling for it! xD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:59 PM
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Because men shoulder the burden of responsibility, but share authority with those that don't. Long line of cucks. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:29 PM
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Thank you. Welcome to the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:56 PM
2

Give her 1/3rd of what she does for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:09 PM
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The two archetypes women are attracted to are the Alpha Male and the Bad Boy. Alphas don't commit to bad-behaving women, while Bad Boys don't commit, period. Commitment is boring and makes her feel like she settled. Women prefer the perpetual chase of the noncommital Chad, who is Chad because he doesn't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:28 PM
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Women find commitment unattractive. If she puts in low effort while you give your all to make things work out, she won't appretiate your kindness and effort, she'll think you're a stooge. If she's low effort, you put in the least effort, either waiting for her to put in more or letting the plate crash. Don't reward bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:01 PM
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You shouldn't. Seeking LTRs is low-value beta behavior. If it happens, it happens, but if you are masculine enough to see women's duplicitous behavior, its pathetic to then try to change her into a better person out of "love" for liars. However, as a business transaction for children and a legacy, the sexual market place should be regulated to prevent abuse. The paternity test isn't for our relationship, its for me. Punish consumers, business suffers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:28 PM
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OP doesn't understand female nature. Yes, traditionalism would make most women happier and society better. But it is more fun for them to chase that perfect partner than to have a stable happiness. You don't ask for women's participation in traditionalism. Men will it. Traditionalism is patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:00 AM
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If you chase a woman, that concedes, on some level, your SMV is lower than hers. If she chases you, that confirms she sees you as higher. Dating down or playing games can thus be brutally effective strategies, as long as you don't give commitment, creating equality when she wants to submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:27 PM
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As a great philosopher once said, facts don't care about your feelings. You may feel that high n-count men are hypocrites for rejecting high n-count women, but they don't need to feel that way or change their behavior. The most you can do is not date these men, but plenty of women will still do so. Better to accept things the way they are than try to change the unchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:26 PM
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Magical thinking. Treat every gun as loaded. Don't scream at the gun for being a gun, but you need to be prepared for when it fires.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:09 PM
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Sounds catastrophic, elaborate, and insecure! A simple "Yes" would have sufficed. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:04 PM
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From what I've seen, Maybe you're not very observant? xD
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:41 PM
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Polygamous instincts inspire loyalty, monogamous instincts inspire flakiness. If you will for a bunch of gfs, you can afford for one to be suboptimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:25 PM
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"These Hoes Ain't Loyal" - Chris Brown Bitchlessness leads to liking women. Men who are with women a lot understand why they're called bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:22 PM
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7) Bring back patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:06 PM
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No. If a man is attractive, masculine, and subtle about his misogyny, he could be a serial killer and earn women's respect and interest. If he is unattractive, feminine, and blunt, a single complaint about female nature makes him an evil incel. Inverse morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:28 PM
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If good faith: No, but you would. If bad faith: Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:38 PM
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What's the solution to this cycle? Patriachry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:31 PM
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Looks like I won. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:29 PM
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The only thing less attractive to a female feminist than a misogynist - a male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:08 PM
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This used to bug me too until I internalized the meaning of solipsism. Men consider their environment first, women consider first themselves. So when men want to be attractive, they think "I will look attractive for her, then I'll have a relationship", women think "I will look attractive for myself, then I'll have a relationship" (or status of looking attractive). Selflessness vs self-centeredness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:56 PM
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All women are emotionally abusive. "Passing shit tests" is a macho way of saying "your girl will abuse you, here's how to ignore it or flip it back." If you love her as an equal, it indicates you tolerate or enjoy her abusive personality and share some relation with it. Hence the eternal contradiction of women who hate the misogynist calling her out on her shit and the abusive men she chose to pursue, resolved by either doubling down on the misogynist (muh patriachry, muh incels...) or blaming a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 02:13 PM
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I lost an FWB not because of her outrage towards my vulnerability, but calling out her outrage towards other people's vulnerability. Their attraction to strength is understandable, but their intense hatred of weakness is not - you have to act like a psychopath around them. Women want our masks on, and sooner than later so will you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:16 PM
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Agreed. Its no longer the Red Pill - Blue Pill Spectrum, but the Red Pill - Pink Pill Horshoe. "Game women because men are women are different" vs "Game women because men and women are the same". The center is the Black Pill - "Gaming women doesn't work". The tenet of this new model that differs from the Blue Pill: the average woman is not attracted to the average man. You bring either your genes or your Alpha Male personality to the table. The cold transaction of the relationship is explicit. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:02 AM
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Yes. Women are a hivemind. To the extent there is a difference among the Borg, it is a mere difference in method over goals. Conservative women think the best place to parasite is in the home, liberal women think its in the workplace. Both of their greatest dislikes is a weak host or the threat of being dislodged. Any man who's talked to women in-depth knows how much they crave social approval. Any woman who deviats from the Borg consensus marches back in line for fear of being kicked out!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:30 PM
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Women offer sex, children, and warm fuzzy feelings. Otherwise - nothing. Women want to be provided for, not provide. If you were getting something from a relationship, she'd ditch you for somebody who didn't. "Then don't have a relationship!" Yeah, but Purple Pill's women's deflection proves the initial assumption right. Debate conceded, you have nothing to offer. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:06 PM
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You're right, but women aren't willing to save their children's social skills, happiness, and future if it means settling down with a beta male. Pro-family policy has only come about from groups of men who decide to restrain women's selfish sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:10 PM
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Immediate dealbreaker. I want a woman who sees me as the best partner in the world for her. If she sacrificed for other men, but not for me, it means she was more attracted to those men. I'm not interested in being a woman's 2nd Place, nor wait at the finish line for women to settle after they've learnt their lessons. It doesn't have to be the same things, but there has to be equal effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:38 AM
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True, but society won't accept that because A. It implies some people are born better B. Implies failure to access p*ssy isn't a moral failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:14 PM
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One piece of evidence among many.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:43 AM
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Close. It depends on how attractive the man is. Nervous, skinny dweeb that struggles to make ends meet = Entitled misogynistic pervert who thinks women are pieces of meat Confident, muscular Chad who keeps winning at life = Mature feminist that sees women for who they are Women dehumanize people they don't like. A constant theme of romance novels is pretending the bad boy Chad sticks around after the pump and dump because of some poorly-described emotional bond. They believe the bad boy has that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:28 AM
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🏆
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:59 PM
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Not until they come with an ATM or can commit crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:18 PM
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Alpha traits she's attracted to vs Beta traits that keep society safe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:16 PM
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Wrong. Cool it with the Red Pill nonsense. Being nice gets you abused. Getting nothing is a wonderful exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:14 PM
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Woah. Cool facts. Upmales to you good sir. Stress is change. Women are addicted to change, men want to stop it.Thus the distinction between male and female, why there is much trouble between the sexes, and the ancient's generally inferior view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:55 PM
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This guy slays. Women want the bad boy because they are the bad girl. They do what they want, even if it harms betas, except when they attempt to extract value from an Alpha male. And what Good Alpha sees a bad girl as something worthy of commitment? The Bad Alpha, however, has no standards to uphold, so his attraction is truly genuine. Of course, since he's a Bad Alpha, he has no reason to perpetually maintain the relationship or reject his many options, so he will often abandon his commitment.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:45 PM
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Women are sexually attracted to abusive men. Remember: women are personality detectors. They can smell that shit. They know who the bad men are, that's why they're with the bad men. "I dIdN't SeE tHe SiGnS!!!!1111" uh, yeah you did, biach. You just thought only beta billy was going to get shoved in the mud, not you. Be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:37 PM
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Depends on how much you're willing to pay for warm fuzzy feelings. If you can't afford them, self-sufficency is required. Sucks, but our individualistic, atomized society punishes cooperative behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:27 PM
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Woman detected!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:11 PM
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Yes. You can get most women to agree with Red Pilled concepts if you frame them in pro-female language. "Women hate vulnerability" --> "Women hate doing free emotional labour." "Women want men who are better than her." --> "Women want an ambitious man who brings something to the table, without putting her on a pedestal." "Run dread and always be ready to leave." --> "Don't rely on women to complete you. Do things for yourself." FDS explicitly agreed with all of TRPs points, but ended up hating T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:58 PM
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They shouldn't, as there are no feminists in foxholes. Leave civilization building and maintaining to the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:28 AM
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Sounds like the average wife! xD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:04 AM
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Then Western civilization will collapse. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ You and those "men" rejected rich and sane patriachry for poor and insane patriachry, inshallah. There is no feminist future since feminists don't breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:02 AM
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We do most of it. No feminists in foxholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:48 PM
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You can't put the genie back in the bottle... But you can remove the genie's right to vote. You can stop promoting genieism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:52 PM
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I would rather have a selfish slave than a selfish partner. I already have good "partners" - my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:06 PM
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Men would want a woman that used her freedom to contribute to the relationship and society. Unfortunately, due to their hypergamy and solipsism, they use it to foster themselves and their delusions. In that case, the best is when the bad is inactive, silent, and obeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:56 PM
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Lies. Incentiving reproduction economically has failed in every country they've tried it in. Richer women have less children than the poor, so throwing money at the fire just burns cash. Patriachry is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:52 PM
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I don't think women want to save civilization, but most men do. Blame the male feminists, not me. xD Islam is doing a good job on its own, no need to rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:47 PM
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Mask off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:33 PM
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"Observant Jews (religious but not ultra-Orthodox) have an average of four children, while secular women have an average of two." Patriachry is keeping the nation afloat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:33 PM
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Dependent on someone else, unable to make decisions for themselves, forbidden to have or voice, their own opinions, or to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:22 PM
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Remove 1st wave feminism. If you give women equality to men, they will reject their feminine roll for the masculine. No civilization has both feminism and a stable, above replacement birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:20 PM
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You wouldn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:58 PM
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Narcissistic response from women claiming they're not narcissistic. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ They may not have NPD, but with men, they sure act like they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:49 PM
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Their count is 4, but they want inifinite chances to monkey branch from man to man to get the best option they can. They don't care if they look like a sloot unless a high value man rejects them over it. Narcissists have an inflated view of themselves because of their low self-esteem. They're inflating what's empty on the inside. You're providing me free evidence lol. You have a surface level view of things, not understanding motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:02 PM
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"Not all women are like that!" - All women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:53 PM
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AWALT. Women are a hivemind. The negative traits of one are usually shared by the group. Using these ladies, we can infer... -Women don't care about preserving their partner count without social enforcement -Women have an inflated view of their own value -Women ghave negative attitudes towards men when compared to themselves -Women hold stupid, even delustional beliefs Holds true with most of my experiences with women, beyond a few religious or neurodivergent types. The women on these shows are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:29 PM
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Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 01:02 PM
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So only losers fail to attract women (except for "the bad ones"). Can't convince women their pussies aren't gold. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:57 PM
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Proving OPs point. You know women have shallow tastes, but give the socially-acceptable answer that only losers fail to attract women. If this were true, every narcissist, psychopath, and petty criminal would be incel, but women can't admit that because it makes them look bad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:03 PM
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Its not my job to educate you uwu
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:25 PM
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To women, a doormat is a man who isn't a Bad Boy. Gender equality doesn't teach men to be Bad Boys. We do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:14 PM
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"The Red Pill is wrong because most men already know its right." A surprisingly common female gaslight on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:29 PM
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Another case of women agreeing with RP, but not liking the way we phrase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:45 PM
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The problem is equality. Many men on here believe women are equal to men, so when they have incredibly high standards, they think they should lower them down. If you say we should accept women's incredibly high standards, you're saying we should accept women's love of inequality, that tge Red Pill is true and feminism is a lie. But most on here want the benefits of equality without the costs of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:07 PM
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People lie, numbers don't. Loneliness f*cks people up. You may feel it doesn't, but your female intuition isn't as smart as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:20 PM
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Loneliness decreases life expectancy by 15 years. Child abuse decreases life expectancy by 20 years. By saying "We shouldn't care about male loneliness", you might as well say "We shouldn't care about 75% of male child abuse." Which is fine, you are what you are, I'm glad the Normals are no longer blowing smoke up our ass, but men should consider this before investing themselves into a society that is apathetic or malacious towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:03 PM
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No. Autism effects functioning, so when it comes to being sexually attractive, sociable, employed, or sometimes basic tasks, the autist has to expend multiple times worth of effort to be less than average. This is seen as laziness by the Normals who only care about what he has to provide, attributing sloth and malice to unintentional incontempetency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:58 PM
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With that attitude? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 08:07 PM
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You're proving OP's point. You're too narcissistic to understand that men aren't narcissistic, that we require duty to something greater to be happy, and if we didn't, there'd be even more "egotistical AHs" than there are now. You want selfish behavior without selfish consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 07:58 PM
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You can either love women or understand them. You can't do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 07:50 PM
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Women don't understand that if they want a dominant man, they need to be a submissive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:40 AM
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Men provide for women. Expecting her to offer anything in the relationship is like expecting net benefit from your child. However, if a man has no standards, it indicates he would have been fine with anyone. I think traditionalism finds the happy medium. Women should be good in conversation, not nagging, willing to be led, know how to cook and clean, be good with children, work somewhat. Men lead and master the environment, women submit and stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:06 AM
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In the animal kingdom, when the male has power over the female, he protects and provides for her. When the female has power over the male, she eats him. Give women the power, and you will be devoured. In fact, if you make it look like you're providing is selfish and retractable, they'll relate to you and love you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:56 PM
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Men desire female validation more than traditional masculinity. If women signal they don't like masculinity, men will become more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:53 PM
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Men are active, women are passive. When men see greatness, they appretiate what he did to get there. When women see greatness, they want that greatness without the effort. Greatness either submits to their whims or is destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:33 PM
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Men engage in direct conflict, women engage in indirect conflict, so men abuse physically and women abuse emotionally. However, since men are direct, conflict can be resolved through negotiation (You're hotter, don't steal my partner) while indirectness seeks to manipulate regardless of the cost (You're hotter, so I will pretend to be your friend and destroy your confidence). Thus few men are physically abusive, while almost all women mentally are. Most observant female on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:01 PM
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If you want strong, healthy, attractive children, you're a Nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:55 PM
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Exactly. The numbers are bunk, but they're complaining not because they want to save the sanctity of marriage, but because they don't want a taste of their own medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:06 PM
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Where to start with this... A. The Red Pill is about truth. You do what you want with it. Men seek truth because it allows them to control their environment - or in other words, dominate. Men like being dominant and women like dominant men. Seeking control is natural and healthy. But what women don't understand is, dominant men want submissive women. If we are expected to take responsibility, we also want the authority. You can't have it all. B. We call women children because women are childish.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:24 PM
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Always. Women want a naturally high-value man, but most men must make great effort to become high-value, indicating a miss-match between his place in life and his genes. So most men must be dishonest about their true nature to maintain a relationship. As seen in the video, women hate low-value men just as much as they hate liars, so you might as well pretend to be higher value than you are to get on her good side. Play the game, and make her believe you want to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:16 PM
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The problem is women are fundamentally uncooperative and naggy when dealing with men. They'll only act cooperative and not naggy when yielding to a superior force. To have a good relationship with women, you need a relationship of dominance and submission with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:00 PM
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A safe place for raising children and warm fuzzy feelings. Up to men if that is worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:26 PM
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The only real solution for men to thrive in the modern sexual marketplace and get what they want is to take on some mild sociopathic traits and literally not care what anyone in society says or thinks, especially women, feminists, vegans, and blue pilled muppets. And because you're not seeking validation, they'll like you more. Ironically, the man who sticks by his preferences irrationally is less punished than the man who tries to rationalize and negotiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:33 PM
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Does the buck commit to one doe? Does the silverback want to limit his harem? I may be projecting here, but I think men want monogamous relationships not for monogamy's sake, but for stability. Thus the ideal relationship is a harem with varying degrees of stability, especially one head bitch who will be there at all times. Think Genghis Khan or Napoleon. But once you get Red Pilled, you know that AWALT, there is no good woman to LTR. You're stuck with an inconsistant harem, but its better than …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:16 PM
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Collecting orbitors is a woman's version of spinning plates. She'll give enough attention to keep things spinning, but does not care about your needs, platonically or romantically, and is willing to let you shatter to focus on other prospects. If you submit to them, you're a male slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:04 PM
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Welcome to The Patriachry. Long time no see. Sadly I don't think men will return unless the return benefits women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:51 PM
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With women, its detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:46 AM
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Your actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:09 PM
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But women will be unattracted to you if they percieve you as gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:56 PM
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They hated him because he spoke the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:03 PM
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Communism is for financial incels ("I'm OWED money! I worked very hard!) National Socialism is female mate choice on steroids ("If you're brown, gay, or weak, you don't get to pass on your genes, loser.")
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:56 PM
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Women like men for what they do. If you can't offer them anything, they don't like you. Men like women for what they are. Women can offer nothing and they will still like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:42 PM
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Its scapegoating. Men don't like women with high n counts. Women love Alphas. Then it must be the betas!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:14 AM
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No. If men and women were similar, we'd see civilizations where women were sent out to war and men stayed at home. Men are yang with a bit of yin, women are the yin with a bit of yang. To the extent they suffer from similar issues, how they approach them is completely at odds with one another. Men actively solve their problems, women passively blame men to solve it for them. Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:00 AM
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You're assuming A. Women want to be happy. B. Men won't simp away these issues as the drop of a woman's hat, should she seriously be troubled by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:55 AM
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There's a reason why societies across the world and time decided to restrict female mate choice. They don't choose good men. They want bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:34 AM
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I'm not. Men do by their own actions. Men and women aren't equal. You were lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:28 AM
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Red Pill explains the game. You can choose to play it or reject it, but you can't replace it. You can choose to live by your principles, but this will have a cost many men aren't willing to pay. Not worth sacrificing yourself to have a minor impact, trying to save a system that doesn't want to be saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:26 AM
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I wasn't talking about finances. Women bring their vagina to the table. For most men, this more than makes up for their deficiencies. Depends on what you mean by parasite. But it is a suitable comparison. Strong men provide the resources, weak women feed on the resources without giving back. If men can't provide, she moves onto a new host.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:17 AM
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Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. A man expecting reciprocity from a woman is like a homeless drug addict expecting it from a multi-billionaire. Women want to be provided for, not provide. Suggesting equality is an insult to the golden uterus she gives you just by being there. The exception is when she meets an Alpha. A man so high value, he looks like platinum compared to the woman's gold. Then the tables turn, willing to do just about anything to keep his attention. You're either an Alpha or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:40 AM
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Marital rape was allowed around the world at the time and for decades afterwards. It wasn't a uniquely Nazi thing. But this is intentional autism taking an analogy literally. I guess I have to tell women I don't believe they are Nazi Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:22 PM
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Rape was illegal, divorce was legal, women's participation in Lebensraum was optional...unless you're talking about the bans on dysgenic breeding. Which as stated: they're socialists on the streets, National Socialists under the sheets. Or if you continue to be dense: their sexual attraction functions similarly to National Socialist Germany, rewarding traditional masculinity, genetic health, heteronormativity, and some races over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:03 PM
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Yes? Nazi Germany wasn't Gilead. You're getting your boogeymen mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:37 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:23 PM
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I never said you were avoiding men with that worldview. I said you were actively unempathetic and unsympathetic to both men of that worldview and lonely men in general. You're consistent lying further proves you're willful ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:22 PM
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Women: Socialists on the streets, National Socialists under the sheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:36 PM
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I'd empathize with him. Its stupid, but a man who lives in a desert would desire the dirtiest of puddles to fill his quench. You teach him not to drink because of the risk of infection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:15 PM
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You're a narcissist. You wouldn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:29 AM
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Yes. Men would feel more content, belonging in a society that wasn't actively hostile towards them, and while not all would make it, some will use that contentness to fuel other areas in their life, becoming more attractive. As hard as it is for women to believe, treating men well (within reason) makes men and society better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:14 AM
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"I don't hate black people, I hate..."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:05 AM
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Empathy - the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. Understanding women and sharing their feelings doesn't mean liking them. That's emotional manipulation. You consider my unempathetic because your manipulation have failed on me. If women are willfully unempathetic, in any case, it means they're willfully ignorant in that case. You're congratulating women for their stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:03 AM
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Empathy is understanding. If you willfully avoid empathy, you are willfully ignorant. I prefer staying off the feminine short bus. Sympathy is good will. If you don't give good will, don't expect good will. If women don't have sympathy for men in general, I don't have good will for women in general. And while I don't return their malicious anti-sympathy they hold for men who suffer, it does throw out the little good will I had left. If women want men to suffer, I don't care about their suffering…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:10 PM
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You do want women to suffer, you have said this word for word. Lying, hysterical behavior. I said no such thing. You believe the suffering of another group will benefit you, and that makes it justified/moral. Hawk bites snake. Snake suffers. Hawk prospers. Woman says hawk is psychopathic. This is why we leave women out of the war room. Don't believe in justice or morality either. Man made these up because of his own egoism and they kept things running.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 11:02 PM
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I value my suffering over women's. I don't want women to suffer, but I can't make every single woman happy before focusing on myself. I put myself first. And incidentally, this will make women, on average (but not all) happier. Women want lonely men to suffer, even where there is no benefit to them. They think lonely men deserve their fate. They like pain is being inflicted upon them. They're willfully malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:49 PM
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...I didn't say you hated men? I said you hated lonely men. Lonely men are so invisible, you ignore them when we talk about them. xD Empathy is understanding. If you are willfully against empathy, you are willfully ignorant. All women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:41 PM
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I don't believe in right and wrong, nor do I have a problem with women pursuing what they desire. What I don't like is women's malicious attitude and ignorance. They do not understand men's suffering, are proud they don't understand it, and think they deserve it. As someone who values peace and truth, I find this disgusting, and have no use for women who want the fruits of peace and truth without their contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:34 PM
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Same post, doubled down. Men should take note if they'd want such people for lifelong partners. I empathize with women's issues, but do not sympathize with them. Their problems are significant, but I don't like them due to their inherent narcissism (of all women, not "the bad ones").
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 10:07 PM
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You're not empathetic. You're empathetic when it suits you. Sometimes I get tired of being right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:55 PM
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More excuses. You're not empathetic. You're empathetic when it suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:39 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:23 PM
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Having empathy and sympathy are not zero-sum games. These are excuses for why women don't have any for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:23 PM
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Didn't say anything about your bodies or lives? You automatically assume all lonely men want such to justify your hatred of lonely men. You're lonely men-ist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:21 PM
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More similar than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:17 PM
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Nope. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:21 PM
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Pathetic response.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:53 PM
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No. -Romantic tenision -different interests -different reasons for enjoying interests -different personalities -dominant philosophy vs submissive philosophy -no reciprocity -no vulnerability
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:51 PM
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Moved on to dolls. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:31 PM
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Thank you for your understanding. 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:27 PM
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Empathy - the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. I understand some women will suffer under patriachry. But not only do I prefer it, women will probably be happier under it overall. Looks like your definition of "no empathy" is "You're not submmiting to my whims."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:24 PM
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It like talking to a brick wall - accepting nothing and bouncing your statements back to strike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:20 PM
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They shouldn't, since they do not empathize or sympathize with men. Not sure what kind of own you were going for, although I'm glad Blue Pill is upfront about women's selfishness these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:15 PM
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See? She doesn't disagree with me, but has half a dozen excuses for why it is actually okay to not show empathy or sympathy for men. That's how women are!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:05 PM
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They do. Unfortunately, due to our atomized society, the feminization of men, and male disposibility, the connection is limited, and is no replacement for physical intimacy. You're narcissistically projecting women's experience with loneliness onto men instead of accepting men as different people with different desires and struggles. Also, I no longer talk to women outside of PPD, though I'm here to Red Pill men over change women's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:20 PM
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Women have neither empathy nor sympathy for men. They do not, nor are willing to, understand male loneliness separate from the female experience, and they think the suffering of that loneliness is something men deserve. It like talking to a brick wall - accepting nothing and bouncing your statements back to strike you. Its best to come to acceptance with this over trying to blame society or "the bad ones" for women's narcissism. EDIT: Seven responses from women and none of them deny this. I'll g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:16 PM
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Situational Alphas who, intentionally or not, let women's hamster do the legwork. Is he a man who follows his own rules, doesn't give a fuck, and knows how to party? Or is he a deadbeat loser who isn't mature enough to tackle his own issues? Depends on the frame you portray.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:58 PM
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Romantically, men need women, women want men. Men have a stronger desire because they are the pursuers and providers - they need the intemse desire evolutionarily to be convinced it is a good deal. Women, the passive and provided for, can wait it out, and somebody will come along. Men's fail when nobody wants them, women when they can't make a good deal. Exsistential loneliness vs unoptimalness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:53 PM
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Women aren't hornier than men, but they are more influenced by their horniness than men. That's why they say low value men can't get laid due to their personality - because in their mind, all men that give them tingles have a good personality. Her horniness is the sole criteria for male value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:51 PM
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Yes. Gilead and countries under Sharia law are close to my ideal and admirable. My only issue with Gilead is the raping - women who are under the supervision of their fathers and a traditional society will be guided into fertile relationships they naturally enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:58 AM
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Not my job to educate you uwu
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:45 PM
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Ancient Rome and other patriachral societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:35 PM
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Sharia Law without the Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:08 PM
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1st/2nd Wave Feminist countries. Equality is written in their constituitions, women can vote and hold whatever job they qualify for, they don't submit to their father, brother, or husband. The feminists in Korea are so bad, they may have been responsible for the election of the current anti-feminist PM (as opposed to being anti-feminist by default). They're feminist countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:52 PM
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Feminism. When women are given equal privileges to men, they will use that privelege to selfishly pursue materialistic goals at the cost of society at large. All feminist countries are dying or on the route to dying. Get rid of feminism and you get rid of the low birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:47 PM
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Friendship with women has the same problems as relationships with women: its all about providing for her, without balance. Your wants, needs, and feelings are 2nd to her own. Women would rather keep a guy perpetually suffering from unrequited love than lose a orbiting provider. I now only do friendships with men, not only because of a lack of sexual tension, but because they care for me as I am, not what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:53 PM
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Masculine men don't like promiscuous women. As much as they complain about it online, if you are 100% okay with her past, they know it means you're not a 100% masculone man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:59 AM
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Why are so many men obsessed with being the top guy when they know most men will never be the top Never know if you can be a top guy til you try. Many will fail, but being (and acting like) a high value man is the only way to maintain passionate relationships. Not only do these wants to be the guy that most can never be, they want to participate in a culture most guys barely have luck in? Men like casual sex with many different women. More at 11. If getting a woman to like them is the goal, shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:31 PM
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Feminism sucks; women most affected
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:55 PM
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Women are submissive, men are dominant. Men go out into the world, understand it, bend it to their will, women yield the rewards as they stay put. Have something to offer? They will obey. Don't? They won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:49 AM
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There's little difference. Nice = Agreeable Not Nice = Disagreeable Kind Guy = Agreeableness I Like Spineless Nice Guy = Agreeableness I Don't Like Guy Who Stands Up for Himself = Disagreeableness I Like Asshole = Disagreeableness I Don't Like You tell men to be extremely agreeable, then when they realize this is unhealthy, you shame them for not being disagreeable. I err to the side of disagreeability with the normals - some of which you'll arbitrarily label as "legitimately nice", others "assh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:11 PM
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"Be a spineless nice guy, and if you don't like it, you're an asshole for not having a spine." Women don't know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:56 PM
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The Nice Guy Gaslight - A. If you treat others well and we treat you like shit, you're the real asshole. B. If you treat others like shit and we treat you well, you're the real nice guy. People like asshole behavior so much, they think they're nicer than people who try to be nice. Don't be a nice guy or a kind guy. Put yourself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:40 PM
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Male disposibility. Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. If something bad happens to a man, we can find another man to replace him, so we can make light out of the situation. If something bad happens to a woman, our species is at threat, protect the womb and don't joke about the risk. Both left and right wing think this way, since its deeply rooted in biology, not culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:57 PM
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"Women dont put enough effort into betas into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship with Alphas."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:51 PM
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Women break rules for Alphas and make rules for betas. Women, by default, are selfish, fickle, and cruel, but if they think you're Alpha, they put on the veil of selflessness, loyalty, and kindness to maintain the relationship, which will hopefully fulfil their selfish desires. This fails many times because women are more attracted to superficial Alpha traits than genuine power. The narcissism women love and relate to has to be abandoned for a man to find success by hard work, introspection, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:40 PM
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Women love equality when it benefits them, hate equality when it does not. Equality is a terrible policy, and the people who appeal to it know it. That's why they will guilt-trip you into accepting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:13 PM
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Unless you want kids, its the best route to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:06 AM
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Risky investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 10:26 PM
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Women used to be slightly happier than men. Since the 1970s, both gender's happiness has declined, with women at such an accelerated rate, now men are slightly happier than women. Women and men are happier with the woman as the caged bird than the strong and independent bird they claim they want women to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:56 PM
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A poorly paid prostitute. Should have consulted your pimp or madame first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:32 PM
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All women are prostitutes. Men trade attention and resources for women's sex and intimacy. 99% of the arguments on here come down to women feeling like they're giving away sex and intimacy at below market value. The real misogyny is to call honest women "gold diggers" and demand from "good women" what they cannot provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:36 PM
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A man who needs the validation of a woman to act is much like a woman himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:30 PM
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I identify as MRA Ah, Diet Red Pill. So far not so good. You can signal how bad we are all you like, but most women will think we're the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:56 PM
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The problem: women have no empathy for men. Admitting women can be lonely too does not make women kinder to men's loneliness. If anything, it makes them even nastier - if women can deal with it in silence, then shut up incel. If your problems don't get acknowledged, you don't try to suck up to them even harder. You treat them as an inferior or an enemy. I don't view women's problems as legitimate or key to my own happiness. I don't want equality, I want patriarchy, where both men and women were …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:24 PM
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Why do poor people feel entitled to food and drink? A common argument is that rich people should simply lower their standards. Why? Why do the poor feel entitled to having a full stomach? Or a quenched throat? Monks can be happy and content starving, why can't the poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:51 PM
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Yep. Men's biggest weakness is allowing themselves to be manipulated by women. If they wanted to, patriachry could be restored tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:10 PM
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They fucked around and found out. Don't want to find out? Don't fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:56 PM
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Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:48 AM
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Men are better than woman. Its like saying a child doesn't bring enough to the table. Every heterosexual relationship is like an adoption - you give more than you take. Its 1st wave feminism's fault for removing male authority and putting women on the pedestal of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:20 AM
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Ah, the trick of the NAXALT. "Women like vulnerability...but not all women or all vulnerability." What looks like nuiance in practice becomes an irrefuteable statement, as any time a man is punished for his vulnerability, women can blame the woman or the man instead of the vulnerability. Real vulnerability hasn't been tried... It usually takes direct experience with women's psychopathy to learn, no, the women who call you an incel man-child who should stop whininhg and using her as a free therap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:30 PM
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Think about media bashing men for The fact that women have the media encourging their narrative shows victimhood works wonders: for women. As to empathy - a lot of women really have empathy for hardships of men. Nope. Most women think lonely men do not suffer, if not, deserve to suffer, if not, is not something they should care about. Women do not listen, try to understand, or sympathize with men because they dislike weakness in men. Saying we're "asking for pity sex" is a dishonest smear to dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:51 PM
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Neither are absolutely monogamous, but men cheat to have more while women cheat to have better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:25 PM
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Saying liking harems is a kink is like fat women saying liking thinness is a kink. It comes from a place of intentional dishonesty to bring down the successful and look politically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:46 PM
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I don't give a shit about what others think of my position. If you didn't give a shit, you wouldn't have posted. And even though I think a quantity-oriented fantasy is a typical telltale indicator of scarcity, I'm not judging you A judgement followed by saying you're not judging. what I criticized is just the absurd projection on "men" as such. I am talking about men, not dishonest soyboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:14 PM
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Better phrased as Men: high risk, high reward Women: Low risk, low reward
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 07:52 PM
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Nope. You're virtue signaling. The beta gorilla saying he'd never enjoy the harem of the Alpha silverback.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 07:28 PM
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