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| 2 | What do you consider to be the core traits of someone who is (genuinely) "nice"? | Discussion | Crubbery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:31 PM |
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| 1 | Q4M: Has a woman ever helped you get laid?No. When I was single I had a few women tell me "I'll set you up with someone", etc. but usually it's just a way to make them feel better - the rush of helping someone. They never actually followed up on it. Kinda like how some people say "If you need me, let me know!" but don't actually mean it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Is a woman having a job a bad thing?I personally wouldn't date a woman without a job, career, and ambitions. My family and social circles are filled by incredibly ambitious people, and the modern economy assumes a dual income family. I have financial goals that don't involve having a SAHM for a wife. I don't want kids either (and neither does my partner). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 04:33 PM |
| – | Some initiate dating, some are passive to start dating. It's intuitive to me, that initially passive women, tend to stay passive thorough a relationship, and put less than 50% effort into planning, upkeep, communication. On average.Not my experience. We organise things fairly equally, because we enjoy spending time together and want to put in the effort to be around each other. In fact, there wasn't ever a point where I felt like I was doing more work than her, even at the start of the relationship. Maybe it's because she's not from a Western country and has different cultural values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 01:03 PM |
| 9 | "Body count" metrics don't really help determine anythingHaving dated women across a range of body counts, the general trend I see, at least from anecdotal experience, is that those with high n-counts tend to have way more mental issues and worse social adjustment. I know 4 women closely who have a body count of over 25, all of these people are 22 years old: My ex (n = 32 PiV, "at least a dozen more" sexual partners without PiV). She had diagnosed depression, anxiety, PTSD, and when we broke up was getting tested for bipolar. She said whenever she fel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 11:25 AM |
| 2 | The “female delusion calculator” RP men use is flawedI think that you can set quite reasonable standards and still end up in that 2-20% range. That basically just requires standards that block off half the population at a time. For example (these standards are just to illustrate how common someone who is "20%" might be): Born in the first half of the year (50%, just an easy way of halving things) Not in the bottom half of intelligence (50%) Does not do drugs (80%) Those are three standards, but a crude look at the statistics by someone using RP lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 03:08 PM |
| 2 | The “female delusion calculator” RP men use is flawedUsing the calculator isn't great, but you can apply similar calculations to your own standards at your own age demographic in your country. I used similar calculations for my own standards and found that my most unreasonable standards were Top 1/3 of intelligence (33%); Healthy weight (56%); Earn at least two-thirds of what I do (40%). With all my standards put together, in the worst case I limit myself down to ~2% of women (worst case being "all these probabilities are independent - e.g. an obe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Boyfriend/Husband Material Men Getting Less Than What Other Guys GotMy only experience close to something like this was with an ex who had been with 31 guys (by her count, plus "maybe a dozen" who she said didn't really count as though they'd done sexual acts they'd never done penis-in-vagina sex). In previous relationships she'd done everything, including foursomes, loads of new positions, etc. By the time she dated me she had already "worked out what she liked", and the sex was absolutely terrible. Sex involved her spreading her legs, pointing at her vagina, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Dating is just a waste of time and money these days.Gets quite expensive. I can see why some people might feel priced out of it. On food/drink alone: Every time my girlfriend comes over (3 times a week) we spend probably ~$35 in groceries for a home-cooked meal that will last 1-2 meals (but this cost also includes stuff like snacks, breakfast stuff, and maybe a bit of kitchenware), but often we're not cooking something simple. Cost of living plus using expensive ingredients, plus we eat ridiculous quantities, makes this all add up. We go out twic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 09:41 PM |
| 1 | What caused you to raise your standards for dating someone?My ex had a lot of qualities I didn't find attractive. She was my first girlfriend and when I met her I had assumed she'd be the best I could get (used to not have much confidence when it came to dating). Realised it wasn't fair to her and that I wouldn't be satisfied in the very-long-term. Broke up with her and raised my standards considerably. I'm now in a relationship with someone much better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Most people are absolutely clueless when it comes to red flags in relationships.My first girlfriend: Kept past men around (literally banged her friend because she felt sorry for him being a virgin; another one night stand asked her out for coffee while we were dating and she said yes because the guy was engaged, he didn't turn up though thankfully) Was bad with money - when I left her she was about $10k in debt (when I first started going out with her she was $2k in debt). Had jealousy, but not extreme jealousy - anyone who looked better than her. Partying - before she met … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Describe the physical characteristics of your ideal partner for sex and relationships.Here are my ideal characteristics. Again, this is "ideal", and I would never expect a partner to fulfill all of these - there are probably very few (if any) that do, and I'm far from a perfect guy myself. You can find my actual standards here. If someone had all the traits listed below as their "minumum requirement", or even their "I expect I might find someone like this one day" they'd be utterly delusional. PHYSICAL: Race: White or Asian Height/Weight: 6ft tall (I'm really tall myself), health… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 04:58 PM |
| 3 | “I see average couples everywhere” Okay, what exactly do YOU think think an “average” couple look like?You could probably find this by simple population averages. The average couple in the UK: MAN: 85.4 kg (188.3 lb), 5ft 9in height man. Income: £35,260 (~$42.5k). WOMAN: 72.1 kg (159.0 lb), 5ft 3in height. Income: £29,684 (~$35.8k). Just keep going through these stats and keep going for the "Mr and Mrs Joe average". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 11:34 AM |
| 18 | Dick sucking n-countMy first girlfriend had a list on her phone of the 31 guys she had slept with. I didn't particularly care, but (depending on who you ask as "high n-count" is different for some people) it was a very high number for someone who was 21 years old. Towards the end of our relationship, I also found out that she too didn't include people she'd not had penis-in-vagina sex with - apparently there was another (smaller) set of men she had sucked off. I think after you get to a certain point some women wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 11:23 AM |
| 1 | God made men and women to fuckI can provide a lot of scientific evidence that penises go into vaginas and that's how babies are made. Do you think anyone would seriously refute that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Relationships are for losersIf all you're getting from a LTR is "sex", and you're giving the woman "emotional comfort, safety, money, time, resources, meeting the womans friends and family, listening to the womans problems, buying her presents, etc.", you're dating the wrong woman, or you're a sugar daddy of some kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 08:06 PM |
| 2 | If people should date within their ethn|c|ty, then how do blk men not have it hardest when accounting for obesity rates ?How do these figures change when you look in different age demographics? For example, the "young adult: 18-25" range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 03:30 PM |
| 19 | Anyone in a fulfilling relationship with someone they didn't find physically attractive initially?My first relationship was like that. I matched with a woman on a dating app, and her photos looked alright. She looked like she might be slightly overweight, but it wasn't necessarily a dealbreaker. When we got to the first date, it was clear that (1) her photos were misleading and (2) she had put on a lot more weight since those photos were taken (she was clinically obese). I decided to overlook this, as she was still a fun person. I didn't find her wholly physically attractive though. It's wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 03:27 PM |
| 1 | The real reason men consider a woman bragging about “having her degree” a red flagI'm fine with it as a degree. It's just not the sort of person I'd date as it typically translates to lower life prospects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:49 PM |
| 4 | Has a woman ever admitted blame or fault or just being wrong to you?Yes. If you date mature people, they'll be mature in arguments when they crop up. I've had women I've dated apologise to me before in a number of circumstances. Maybe I'm just fortunate, but I really can't think of many times where a woman has refused to apologise to me over something non-trivial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | The real reason men consider a woman bragging about “having her degree” a red flagIn my country, student loans are a 9% tax on all earnings above $35k (the average household income), and the debt is wiped after 30 years. I'm 22. People my age haven't achieved much yet (my social circle is an exception to this). One of my standards I hold is that I want the person to either: Have a degree in something that's not "psychology of dance" or something. Have done something exceptional since finishing high school. Because in my country you're pretty much required to have a degree of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:42 PM |
| 4 | If you have sex only in condom, your partner has no feelings let alone doesn't love youWomen I've had sex with have been fine with not using a condom for non-PiV activities. There have been a few reasons why condoms have been used in my past relationships: Condoms have no side effects. Birth control does. The woman doesn't want to go through the massive list of potential side effects. In the early stages of dating, any penetrative acts use a condom because of pregnancy/STD risks. It's best practice to do this in general. Easier/more convenient cleanup, especially if you're not doi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:36 PM |
| 7 | Oh no sisters, we got too cocky! We better ban those cute fembot girlfriends before they are released or it is over for us..I'd be curious to know how much of this is "frictional" single-ness. Suppose an extreme ficticious society where the population operates on a cycle - "date for 6 months, single for 6 months". Assuming the cycles start dates are independent from one another, when taking a random sample of the population you'd expect about 50% of the population to be single at any one time. Also, if you read the study, the rates were 41% in 2018. So 45% in 2030 isn't exactly a massive leap. I think comments here a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Women: EWWWW GUYS ARE FILTHY AND SMELL SO GROSS!!!!1!1!🤮. Also women:My ex was like this. She showered once every 2-3 days at most (even when on her period or if she had diarrhea that day), and it'd be a quick 5 minute shower at most. She said this was normal and that apparently it's what the vast majority of women do. She had shoulder-length hair, so it's not so much about hair length either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Do ugly/short men get gaslit about the importance of looks?Yes. A lot of women will say height doesn't matter if there's a short guy around to hear it or they're worried they'll be judged. I'm 6ft 6in. My female co-workers have often mentioned that they'd never date someone who wasn't at least a few inches taller than them (if they meet irl), or over 6ft (if via a dating app). They don't filter it out if it's just me in the room, but when there are short coworkers around they'll tell them height doesn't matter. Typically they'll really mean "height matt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Whats some of the preferences of my fellow men on this sub?Not within the 16-24 age category in my country (I date in the 20-24 age range). https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn03336/ 13% obese, 24% overweight, 56% healthy weight, 7% underweight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Whats some of the preferences of my fellow men on this sub?I'm a 22 year old man. I'll list my stats based on your metrics as well. Height: I'm 200cm (approx. 6ft 6in) tall. Income: At the start of my career I'm in the top 40% of earners in my country, and standard career progression in my field is likely to bring me to the top 5% in about 10 years time. Race: I'm white, Body Type: and I'm 80kgs (approx 176lbs), so about 20 BMI. House/No House: My workplace is in the most HCOL part of the country so I'm renting, but I've been allocating a lot of my payc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/22 01:39 AM |
| 0 | Sexual power imbalance between men and women will lead to improvements in sex tech for men in the futureIt will improve as tech improves, but I can't imagine it'll become a booming market and progress more rapidly than standard. Though if you think this will happen, invest in companies that make these products and shoot for the moon 🌙 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 08:36 PM |
| 14 | Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like!My ex's best friend kept on getting back with a guy who would keep cheating on her and using her for sex (which she regularly complained about). She kept getting back with him, hoping he'd change, no matter how much my ex protested. He never did. When I ended things with my ex, they were on their 6th (!) attempt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 08:24 PM |
| 1 | How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you takeTbh I was responding mainly to the title of OP's post, where he was talking about the link between (1) how RP you are and (2) success with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Opposites attract, but the real reason for this might keep you up at night.Out of interest, have you been in a relationship with someone who shares radically different values to you? I don't mean this in a combative way. I agree that having a "yes-man" is unattractive, especially only when they're simply agreeing to please you. My most successful relationships have been those where I broadly share the same values as my partner, and the least successful ones are those where that hasn't been the case (with regards to health, finance, kids, politics). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 05:21 PM |
| 6 | How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you takeAnecdotally, nothing about the red pill ever got me a relationship beyond "be direct and proactive with what you want". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 05:16 PM |
| -1 | Did Red Pillers Became Richer Or Started Getting More Laid After Being Red Pill?Almost certainly not, otherwise RP communities wouldn't have so many people complaining about virginity for many years. They'd join the community, find success, and move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 04:11 PM |
| -1 | Why is niceness so harmful to romantic relationships?OP, don't confuse being "nice" with being a doormat. What do you consider "nice"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Men naturally objectify womenIf men truly only cared about (in your words) "how they can be used to satisfy their sexual thirst", imagine a situation where you have two identical looking women. If one had severe mental issues and the other did not, as long as the mental issues didn't get in the way of sex, are you saying that men wouldn't care about those issues, and would "rank" both women equally? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:42 PM |
| 0 | Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wallThe whole "I'll suddenly become more attractive at 30" seems to be a desperate hope in my opinion. It seems to push any drive for self-improvement to later. I really doubt women in their 30s are truly as desperate as some rhetoric says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:36 PM |
| 2 | How will this generation of single men and women do in the future?It's also worth noting that a lot of partnership related things are pushed back. I believe the average age of marriage in my country is 31 for men, and 29 for women. A few decades ago it was a good 6-7 years younger than that. Average age of having children has also shifted up. In my opinion these things will self-regulate. Before that happens there'll be more virgins, but I think if you shifted up the age brackets a few years the percentages would remain the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What are the advantages of being the Nice Guy?In my experience anyone who frequently says they're a "nice" or "good" person for "social points" falls into the "not doing it for altruistic reasons" category. The truly good/nice people I know (and I know many!) are self-evidently that way and don't need to tell people. They're usually humble about it too. They're people I want to be around. If someone needs help, they'll do everything they can to help them. Nobody has a bad thing to say about them. I could talk for hours on some people I know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What are the advantages of being the Nice Guy?I honestly can't see any advantages of the "Nice Guy" traits you listed in your post. The women I know in real life complain about these guys all the time, or see them as pushovers and don't like to associate with them. They're honestly a joke and their motivations behind being "nice" are rarely altruistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Toxic masculinity does not exist , because no behavior is exclusive to just one genderBeing "nice" never helped me get into a relationship, but it certainly helped keep them going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 11:20 AM |
| 1 | Its not possible for either gender collectively to have standards that are too high for longTechnically true, in that "price adjusts to demand", but I wouldn't suggest lowering standards unless they're legitimately unreasonable (e.g. "must make over $1m a year" unless you come from aristocracy or equivalent). Likewise, if you genuinely think you could never have a happy relationship with someone who didn't meet a particular standard, you should keep that standard, but accept that if that standard is unreasonable you may die alone. Annecdotally the quality of my relationships vastly imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 11:17 AM |
| 2 | The average straight woman would be getting no girls if they magically turned into a straight man.Anecdotally I didn't have any success with dating (and dating apps) when I was taking advice from women in my friendship group. They suggested photos that were shockingly terrible in hindsight, and told me to use some overly sappy first messages that would make anyone cringe. They couldn't understand why their tactics weren't working. I got advice from a male stranger (so they would be unbiased) and I went from "no matches" to "in a relationship within a week". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 11:12 AM |
| 1 | If you desire a tradcon gf/wife, OLD is useless.I found a tradcon virgin girlfriend on Hinge. I was lucky though - we had both just downloaded the app (about an hour before we matched) and I used Hinge's free superlike-equivalent (a rose?). Turned out she had downloaded it at the request of a friend and I was the first person to match with her that didn't come across as creepy. (inb4 "she wasn't really a tradcon virgin", she absolutely was. Her friends confirmed it and her inexperience was remarkably clear, but it wasn't a barrier for us) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 11:01 AM |
| 3 | How will this generation of single men and women do in the future?I suppose that's true. I'm using CDC data here. the average age Americans lose their virginity (defined here as vaginal sexual intercourse) is 17.1 for both men and women. The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males ages 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for both male and female virgins ages 25 to 29 and goes as low as 0.3 percent for virgins ages 40 to 44 Though those statistics represent only heterosexual penile-vaginal sex, so for exam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:55 AM |
| 4 | Do women prefer to give their number or to be given a number?Sharing socials is something that can be done earlier, but I rarely share my number until we've had a first date and there's interest in a second. It's not always been me offering to share numbers, it just depends on how the conversation goes. Though I'd imagine as society still tends to expect the man to initiate, it's expected the guy should be asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:44 AM |
| – | What is the rough percentage/rate of penetration of the manosphere within males in modern dating?I'd guess the penetration rate of RP content is barely 1%. Higher in young people, lower in older people. Online communities (and echo chambers) make its members believe more people think the way they do. Hence the surprise that Trump won in 2016, or why people think the percentage of BIPOC people in the UK is much higher than it is, or any "chronically online" takes you see. If you go out into the real world you'll find that the overwhelming majority of people don't think this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Opposites attract, but the real reason for this might keep you up at night.I genuinely don't believe the idea that "opposites attract". I've never seen it in relationships in my social circles. It tends to be something that crops up in popular Western media because it makes for good storytelling - think "nerd + cheerleader", "bookish woman + gruff action man", "wealthy man + peasant woman", etc. People do well in relationships with those similar to them across many metrics - class, age, values, finances, etc. Sure, there are exceptions, but differences cause friction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:38 AM |
| 2 | How will this generation of single men and women do in the future?It still remains to be seen as to whether this generation will truly have a significantly higher percentage of virgins than before. If you look at percentages of each age demographic who are virgins, by the time you hit 35 it's a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of people. Online dating and this new wave of relationship style hasn't had enough time to set in, but we'll be able to compare properly in 10-15 years. The demographics of online communities where there's a lot of discourse about this stuff te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Mental health issues is the biggest thing preventing men and women from getting into and staying in happy relationships.I've dated a few women with mental problems in the past. Some impacted their lives more than others, and some managed theirs better than others. To compare two extremes: One of my exes went to therapy and worked through her issues, and it didn't put a strain on our relationship at all. Another one of my exes refused to go to therapy (found it patronising), rarely took her medication (and on occasion said it was my fault for not reminding her to take it), her mental problems lead to her showering… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Single Men, what are your standards?I'm a 22 year old man. I'll list my stats based on your metrics as well. Height: I'm 200cm (approx. 6ft 6in) tall. Income: At the start of my career I'm in the top 40% of earners in my country, and standard career progression in my field is likely to bring me to the top 5% in about 10 years time. Race: I'm white, Body Type: and I'm 80kgs (approx 176lbs), so about 20 BMI. House/No House: My workplace is in the most HCOL part of the country so I'm renting, but I've been allocating a lot of my payc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 01:43 PM |
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