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Appreciate it. I gave talk at the library once, thinking about a YouTube video, but I get nervous to post it
/r/seduction06/09/25 04:28 PM
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I could write a book on it, but I’ll just say homelessness is nothing like people think it is. Your whole mindset is so focused on the now, or at least getting through that day….its hard to get depressed when you’re fighting for your survival like that. This part of your brain you never knew about seems to activate, and you become so resourceful, you often feel mentally sharp and alive despite poor sleep and nutrition. You form these networks, bonds and camaraderie so much deeper than what we ex…
/r/seduction06/09/25 01:32 PM
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They’ll even let you move in with them when you’re homeless, and fight with each other over who can take better care of you. It’s crazy. (I’ve been homeless, seen all kinds of shocking things)
/r/seduction05/09/25 08:34 PM
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We really do need to get off Reddit more. It’s a horrible representation of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:02 PM
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That’s some serious cope these 20 something year old men have…assuming if they just build wealth they’re suddenly going to attract women in their 30’s and 40’s….and younger women at that. Meanwhile, they’ll have no actual experience with women…just bad dating advice from the internet that has a major, major lack of nuance that only experience can bring. There’s plenty successful men in their 30’s and 40’s, some even millionaires who can’t get women…meanwhile plenty men without much money get ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:57 PM
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Women (and men) overseas are going to have their own sets of trauma and damage. Third world countries deal with extreme poverty, higher death rates (more orphans) , more violence, even wars. Ultra patriarchal societies repress women through fear and shame, causing intense resentment. Any developed or developing country, even in the east, has a large degree of westernization. American women can be great if you pick the right one, and fulfill her emotionally and sexually , preferably to the point …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:19 PM
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You’re in a relationship where you’re forbidden to have sex with anyone else, but you can’t have sex with your spouse either….which means no sex allowed at all. Sounds like a horrible deal. But yeah I guess there could be worse….like abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:55 PM
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The pressure for women to ignore their sexual identity and give “Nice Guys” a chance is still pervasive and ultimately leads to dead bedrooms. Well said. Men are encouraged to be “nice guys,” then get angry it didn’t work out for them. But they often fail to realize women also get encouraged to go for those “nice guys.” Who would have thought we’re both being taught (brainwashed) to behave a certain way? Women seem to have gone into rebellion against that narrative, even choosing to be single ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:51 PM
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Yupp money just doesn’t do it, unless she’s a gold digger. I’ve been through poverty and abundance. If I kept myself attractive (in shape, clean, and well groomed,) and was emotionally exciting, there wasn’t much difference between when I had a lot of money or when I had little. You should have enough money to afford the basics though….having to ask for gas money (or worse, a ride) every time you meet up is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:42 PM
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Appreciate you making quality nuanced arguments here too. It’s Becoming more rare as this sub grows
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:42 PM
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Men’s desire to spread their genes as much as possible. Womens desire to secure and reproduce with the highest value man they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:31 PM
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Personality differences are not what I’m taking about. It’s the evolved behaviors that every living being has.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:25 PM
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An intellectual analysis of female nature and behavior, particularly in regards to their evolved reproductive strategy and desires/needs. Red Pill often contrasts itself with the blue pill delusions and advice we’ve been told, and how believing and following these delusions and advice can be damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:08 PM
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That’s a valid summary too. Still would include hypergamy though, it’s so important to Red Pill…not only that, hypergamy is so antithetical to the Blue Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:39 PM
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Ok maybe it used to mean that…not sure why you would assume I mean it in the past sense (or “traditional” as you called it) when we live in the present When I say treat her like a girlfriend/wife, I mean giving her emotional excitement and support, being a man she desires, intimacy, romance, etc. Way more than a business “partner” gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:55 PM
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The Rational Male (Rollo Tomassi) is the original Red Pill. And what most these spin offs base their content on. There’s no misogyny or rage in it, no PUA, just practical (often to the point of being dry) information about female nature and behavior. Richard Cooper too, but he basically copies a lot of what Rollo says (they’re friends, so Rollo seems cool with it.) Illimitable Men used to be part of the original Red Pill, but he’s since disassociated as the term Red Pill has become high jacked i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:32 PM
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FnF are not pure Red Pill, they simplify and amplify certain parts of it that cause a strong (usually negative) emotional reaction in people….by “dumbing it down” they also leave out critical nuance. And they don’t emphasize overcoming “Red Pill Rage” since they thrive off the rage. They’re mostly rage bait and trashy entertainment, essentially Red Pill at its worst. It was a shame to see Rollo on there, as Rollo originally started out encouraging men to overcome the rage phase…but I understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:13 PM
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RP started off with men who got blindsided by a break up/ divorce when they followed everything the Blue Pill told them. But yeah unfortunately now a lot of it had turned into rage bait, which could attract incels, misogynists, etc. It’s sad to see the Red Pill high jacked like this, but it never really had a clear leader (Rollo was called the Godfather, but he refused to claim to be the leader. He also tacitly endorsed fresh and fit by going on there frequently.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:58 PM
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lol definitely a give away she’s chronically online. (I admittedly spend too much time online too, but I also get out) I’ve still yet to meet a woman IRL asking me about politics. I Can’t Imagine an exciting first date where we’re talking about Trump lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:51 PM
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If you’re weak / boring / unattractive women overseas will despise you too. They’ll just pretend to like you, so they can have your money or hopes of citizenship. They’re becoming westernized too anyways, unless you go somewhere without internet. There’s actually plenty good American women still. Maybe less than in the past, maybe you have to work harder, but there’s still enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:42 PM
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You don’t call yourself “Red Pill” IRL. It’s just a term we use while we’re being nerds on the internet. (I say that with love, not disparagingly)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:24 PM
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RP is way more than that. It’s an intellectual analysis of female nature and behavior at its core. It’s hard to sum up RP, but if I could it would be “hypergamy is the primary female sexual strategy.” Even blue pill knows not to be fat and to be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:20 PM
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You actually get it and make great points. It’s too early to see downvotes, I’ve been upvoting many of your comments, but you’re probably not seeing it since all the butthurt NPC’s are downvoting you. 95% of the time downvotes = “you hurt my feelings.” Downvotes have nothing to do with facts or even making a quality argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:54 PM
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Red Pill taught me to love women as they are. There’s a temporary phase of “Red Pill rage,” some men do unfortunately get stuck in it. My relationships are so much better since RP…not just for me but my girlfriends as well. I understand her emotional needs, the type of man she needs me to be…how could that not help?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:51 PM
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It’s actually both… Hypergamy can keep her loyal if she sees you as her best and she’s emotionally hooked. Hypergamy makes her eyes wander (possibly cheat or leave) when she sees you as inferior and/or you haven’t captivated her emotionally
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:48 PM
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Apparently lol (if it confirms someone’s theory ofc…otherwise it’s misogyny)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:41 PM
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I treat my woman like a girlfriend/wife. People I do business with I treat like partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:40 PM
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A rappers technique would be “become a celebrity and chicks will swoon over you when you walk in a room.” Not practical for a Normie. And many rappers and celebrities are super blue pill at their core , they just get away with delusion (to an extent) because they’re so high status
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:25 PM
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PUA is not Red Pill. Red Pill is basically an analysis of female nature and behavior, especially in comparison to the delusional “blue pill” fantasy lies men were taught. PUA is corny games / flirting techniques (somewhat effective in certain circumstances, but much less so nowadays than in the 90’s and 00’s) Red Pill started off as why PUA would even work. PUA was the how, Red Pill was the why. Red Pill is more intellectual at its core e.g. Rollo Tomassi and Illimitable Men. You see very little…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:18 PM
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On Reddit, people think an exception disproves a general trend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:53 PM
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Good point 4B wouldn’t affect the Chads or the incels…Chad gets more than enough, and they’d cave to him anyways. Incels already don’t get women. At most 4B would affect a few mids….the guys who occasionally get a woman, often with great effort…they could get moved to the incel pool…. Which would only put them at risk of radicalization anyways, and wouldn’t help the 4B cause. But even still, 4B is too small to even affect the mid tier guys….but that’s about the best 4B could realistically accomp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:04 PM
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It is scary I think action at the state and local level is what’s needed. I don’t see the Federal either legalizing it nationwide, nor do I see them banning it nationwide. Even Red States have made some progress though. It’s democracy, and if enough people want something legal, they can usually find a way to pressure the politicians, or pass ballot measures…the downside is it can take time. Stay active and advocate, even if the process is slow…I foresee many red states backing down slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:30 AM
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Fear of pregnancy is definitely legitimate. I’ve not had sex a few times in the past when I didn’t have a condom and/or didn’t trust her birth control….Ive also caved and had a month or three of anxiety until it was clear she didn’t get pregnant….so I totally get the anxiety. I’m assuming you live in a banned state too…Abortion is still completely legal where I am, (IIRC up to 20 weeks ) and not at any risk of a ban. But even still, being on some type of birth control is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:40 PM
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I don’t complain because I usually don’t let it get to that point….but if it does, it often means the relationship is dying out in other ways too, and it’s time to move on (unless you’re married with kids, you do have to consider your family.) Contrary to what many men claim, it’s completely possible to maintain relationships for years with regular, even daily sex. But gotta stay in shape/stay attractive, and keep her emotionally engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:33 PM
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The emotional bonding, the thrill of a strong man physically dominating her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:28 PM
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True as a movement overall it doesn’t have goals. But plenty individual women in it do have a goal of “punishing men” for supposedly putting Trump into office (albeit many men didn’t vote Trump, and many women did, but I digress) But for some women it’s just a way of dealing with the trauma of losing the election. I don’t think it’s a healthy way, but who am I to say that anyways? It’s better than violence. Another commenter asked why I even care about what they do, if it won’t impact me? I’m no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:26 PM
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A MGTOW would most likely drop MGTOW in a heartbeat if a hot 22 year old was DTF him. Likewise, a 4B woman would drop 4B fairly fast if a hot man came along and “swept her off her feet.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:16 PM
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High school still represents human nature, even if it’s an immature form of it. The adult world is shockingly similar overall
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:59 PM
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Allow me to answer your question with another question….why should I not care about the health and happiness of my fellow human beings, especially whom are part of the society I live in? Those women would find dating men enjoyable if they could find the right man….and this is more so a failure on the part of men rather than women (not trying to throw my own gender under the bus, but I think us men need to be better, especially at accepting female nature, understanding women’s needs and desires, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:20 PM
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Other than these women have to punish themselves by missing out on some of life’s greatest pleasures (sex, human touch, intimacy, the fun of dating.). Meanwhile men can just find another woman not participating in 4B (which is most women.) I’m all for women participating in 4B if they choose though. But I don’t think it’s healthy….just like MGTOW is unhealthy for the same reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:14 PM
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lol….they do genuinely believe they’re “punishing men,” but only because they have their Reddit echo chamber to reinforce the delusion. Love the self awareness here, all too rare nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:11 PM
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🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:36 PM
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Unfortunately most people lack nuance…either due to IQ, and/or being overwhelmed by their emotions and egos. Hence Humans go to extremes like war over who has the correct God, or the correct way to worship. Yeah that’s true, I would suspect they would ask pretty quick, probably before a first date…but I’ve yet to be asked this. Well the good thing is you’re one of the few men who realizes it’s important to give her some playful banter, so you can really set yourself apart,.,,women constantly com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:55 PM
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All this stuff about politics being so important only started recently….and seems to be way more important to people on Reddit than IRL I don’t ever recall any women in my long dating life, including recently (albeit not since the recent election) asking or caring about politics. There was supposed to be a sex strike in 2016 after his first win, then in 2022 after Roe was overturned….Im sure some women participated, but not nearly enough to make any difference whatsoever in my dating life. Give …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:14 PM
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Being center can sometimes be the worse in terms of dating (despite it being practical politically.) Expect Progressives to call you a “secret Trump supporter.” Many conservatives will also accuse you of being “secretly progressive” too. It’s crazy out here….wayy too polarized I find any political talk so unappealing in dating (although I do understand why it’s important to some people.). But women are wayyyy more fun when you just engage in playful banter, learn about her interests and passions…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:07 PM
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Rural areas tend to have the most problems with doctor shortages/poor health care in America. That’s crazy it’s a problem in big cities in Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:15 PM
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Or the minute a hot guy starts talking to them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:27 PM
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I wouldn’t say never. Rarely, yes, but not never. When a confident woman (mainly when she is ovulating) locks in on an attractive man, she can get pretty assertive…even making the approach herself. But yeah overall they’re passive and vague with their signals…still with enough experience (not reading online, actual experience) you can get pretty good at reading genuine interest from just being friendly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:07 PM
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Men don’t know who will actually be receptive to their approaches. Many women give off signs they want to be approached by a particular man. Often vague, but sometimes clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:53 PM
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That only applies to the men they’re not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:14 AM
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Shy women often don’t give off a (clear) signal to approach like the attention seeking girls do. Approaching without an invitation is generally not easy. Yet Some women are so smily, talkative, charming, etc they make it almost easy (and exciting) for a man to approach and ask her out. Some shy girls can play off their coyness well, but some can be too nervous or even awkward (despite being interested)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:13 AM
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I’ve gone for the “ordinary, boring girl.” The effort is worth the reward, but it also tends to move slow and even awkwardly. Meanwhile the “attention seeking girl” grabs our attention, things move quickly with excitement, and feels more natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:15 PM
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Haha so true. It’s on nearly every dating sub Reddit. Cringe. Men do it too. E.g. “would you date a short man?” Then loads of Reddit women say yes, they get all happy, while IRL the reality is much different. Reddit is such a terrible representation of reality. I swear most people here are neurodivergent, varying mental illnesses, etc (myself included)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:30 PM
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Interesting indeed thank you for sharing. Prostitution, hypergamy, infidelity... All are hardwired into our primate cousins. To think that human females don’t have these traits hardwired into them is insanity. Def agree. People love this idea that we’re divine beings. Many even get offended at the idea we come from animals. And definitely shocked by the animal instincts within us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:01 PM
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Great comment. What’s that documentary? Sounds interesting to watch. I would think the female chimp would only exchange sex for fruit if she’s at risk of starvation though. Females are generally hard wired to avoid weak genetics unless their survival is at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:54 PM
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Her breathing, heart rate/pulse change in a way that can’t be faked. Her body tightens up (temporarily) in a way that can’t be faked She may have trouble moving (very briefly, a few seconds at most.) She puts off this distinct energy like she’s floating (this is hard to explain.) She may death grip you Her eyes sometimes roll back, her head tilts back These are just a few. You can tell when her orgasm is real, but it takes some experience …. What might be hard to tell is if she has a weak orgasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:05 PM
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Why would you even want to have a girlfriend that doesn’t want sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:55 PM
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Love the honesty. Especially on this sub. This seems to be most women, at least IME. For some reason many women and men hate to admit this….someone correct me if I’m wrong though. And a side note, “sex begins outside the bedroom…” stay physically attractive for visceral desire, emotionally stimulating for passion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:54 PM
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When I smoke weed, it opens my (somewhat rigid) mind….I get some great unique ideas, and some really bad ones (that seem good at the time.) It’s kind of similar when my woman gives me ideas. She just opens up all these new thoughts. Luckily in both instances I can filter out the bad ideas. So it’s a net plus. Women have interesting insights on marketing too IME….seems to be a natural strength of theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:15 PM
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The delusion throughout Reddit, heck throughout all of society too. Humans are delusional creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:52 PM
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Haha good point. The rest of Reddit is ridiculously Blue Pilled though…it’s cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:24 PM
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Most would hate getting no attention at all even more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:22 PM
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Increasingly less likely they’ll be with the beta provider. Some women would rather work three jobs before being with a beta provider. The amount of cringe women feel having sex with a beta provider is something most men can’t fathom….it goes so strongly against their hard wiring….maybe the closest thing I’d compare it to is imagine having sex with an obese old smelly woman with hideous skin
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:16 PM
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Interesting point. Makes sense women also have to compete though due to the large amount of parental investment raising a human baby takes. Women still have the instinct to secure the top men for themselves though….big difference is women usually want their commitment too, unlike the animal kingdom where many females are happy just to get his genetics (not all animals, small amounts do practice monogamy.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:53 PM
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Society is always falling apart and being rebuilt. Whether it’s violent revolutions, new technology drastically changing life, new generations scoffing at previous generations values, etc People have been screaming “society is falling apart” for as long as society has existed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:45 PM
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“Progress” is a rhetorical word that elites use to define things that further their agenda….while making the masses feel good and virtuous about it Other rhetorical words: Freedom Equality Greatness Justice Lots more, but you get the point….vague terms that can be easily manipulated and defined by elites to get people to support their agenda, and not question it (Liberals and conservatives both do this btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:48 PM
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Gotcha that makes sense. I was starting to wonder if that was even pheromones or just a natural scent they had
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:25 PM
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Interesting, never heard of that organ. But so many women do have an amazing , distinct natural scent about them….its kind of like a floral scent. Very distinct from the chemical smells like soaps and perfumes that mask it (or sometimes enhance it)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:16 PM
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Yes a paradox indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:02 PM
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Platitudes keep the emotionally / mentally weak masses full of hope, which shields them from the brutal reality of life, and keeps them exploited by the elites (whether capitalism, socialism, communism, etc) I’m a believer in meritocracy and even capitalism, but where we are now is ridiculous….rents, inflation, etc….society reaches a tipping point where so much wealth is horded by so few that people eventually revolt. (It might be called late stage capitalism.) Also the authoritarianism coming f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:59 PM
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The masses and plebs hate reality because reality is unbearable if you’re not mentally and emotionally strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:51 PM
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There’s a difference between settling and being reasonable. Imagine a 55 year old man with average salary and looks who wants a hot 22 year old girlfriend and “refuses to settle.” He’s being unreasonable. Being with a decent 50-55 year old woman for him shouldn’t be considered “settling.” (Unless shes obese and he’s not, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:48 PM
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Fair point. I’m sure some do a good job pretending. It’s a business after all, and repeat customers probably helps…and they probably feel safer with customers they know. I saw an interview once, and one prostitute said some of the men just want to talk and cuddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:07 PM
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I’m mildly autistic/ Asperger’s and considered very attractive. I do well with women overall, but very often I mess things up if I’m acting too “Spergy.” But if I don’t go overboard with the ‘tism, women will often just say my behavior is endearing…especially if they’re already emotionally attached. So if I mess things up with one woman, it’s very easy to find another one. I wouldn’t trade my good looks to be neurotypical and average looking though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:44 PM
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Haha well said. And yeah being with a woman consumed by desire and passion is amazing. A prostitute would probably be boring in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:36 PM
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Certainly almost no one who earns the money themselves can be so clueless. Look around more my friend. Plenty of clueless people with money. Being good at money doesn’t mean you’re good at wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:27 PM
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I take the most accurate and useful parts of each. Discard all the foolish parts. One theory rarely covers everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:25 PM
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I think you still need at least a healthy muscle mass, just don’t have to be jacked or on roids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:57 AM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:55 AM
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The influencers and trashy entertainment ( e.g. Fresh and Fit) ruined the red pill. It wasn’t supposed to be about hating women, it was about better understanding them to have better relationships. My relationships with women improved dramatically after Red Pill, but this was back in 2018. Particularly understanding her emotional needs. Modern Red Pill just feeds off and worsens mens anger, rather than actually teach them how to manage better…sad to see really.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:51 AM
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It almost sounds like satire….but I think he’s real. Kinda like some women think they need an unnatural Barbie body, some men think they need an unnatural Roid body Just a calisthenics bar and some dumb bells go a long way. That and don’t be fat, you can have a great body women will love (Also be handsome and emotionally stimulating)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:44 AM
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It’s always been so obvious when a woman is losing interest….and it’s also obvious when she loves you I think men (and women) tend to delude ourselves that she’s still in love though…even some psychology books normalize it as “companionship love” as opposed to the “passionate love” at the beginning. IME when the passion goes away, the relationship is nearing an end
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:22 PM
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I hear this a lot from women. Essentially a man who passes the minimum looks threshold can become much more attractive through his personality. This is somewhat true in men, albeit significantly less IMO. Men just seem to keep a more objective view on how attractive she is regardless of personality. It’s kinda cruel IMO, but it’s just how nature made us. I totally agree it was kinda sad. I hated myself for it. It was messed up full stop. I just really missed that feeling of being sexually overwh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:45 PM
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This is so odd to me. How can you think a woman is great and you have great sex, but you don’t find her attractive? I literally can’t imagine that. Well I didn’t find her unattractive either. This also might be a difference between male and female brains. “Not being unattractive” is enough to get a man sexually turned on. She made herself very available, I wasn’t going to turn her down….and I liked her too, so figured I’d give her a chance. Whereas most women need to actually be attracted and at…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:13 PM
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From an objective stand point yeah I totally agree with that. But when that higher intellectual part of you wants to love someone, but that base biological part won’t let you, there’s something humbling about that…just realizing how much our animal nature controls us hits home a little harder….I think that’s what I’m trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:26 AM
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I’ve had this happen before….it sucks….its hard admitting to our own selves how shallow we are. This woman was great, I kept trying and trying…but that physical attraction just wasn’t there… and this despite the sex being great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:01 AM
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I see your logic, and while it could arguably be easier to convince women not to date those men, that doesn’t mean you can convince enough to make a meaningful difference possible Most High income women already won’t date active criminals…they have too much to lose, and in their milieu that’s seen as low status…,however some lower income women will date active criminals…the fast money and excitement changes up their stressful, often boring, existence…also their milieu will be less likely to frow…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:49 PM
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Kinda like the “sex strike” after Roe V Wade was overturned. It went nowhere. Sure a few women stopped having sex, but the majority continued…since it was so few actually enforcing the sex strike, they were basically only punishing themselves. Likewise if a few men decide to stop pursuing women, swiping right on most profiles, etc. their efforts will only be overshadowed by all the other men who continue to….so they would essentially only punish themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:37 PM
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Yeah most people cause bad vibes when they talk politics….including the religion and politics dude you talk about. People think they’re so morally superior for their politics, but people just have different life experiences. Like if you live in a city and there’s constant shootings, you probably support gun control…..if you live in the country and someone broke in your home and you defend it with a gun, you probably support guns. It’s just different experiences and takes on the issue….their circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:47 PM
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Leftists think moderate is someone who secretly supports Trump, but won’t admit it. It’s so foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:30 PM
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Thank gosh….read any online dating sub, scores of women talk about how they swipe left automatically if politics is left blank, or “non political “ or “moderate.” In their delusional mind this means someone is secretly a Trump supporter. The reality is a lot of Americans are moderate, non political, or just hate both parties
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:27 PM
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It’s such a dumb red pill myth. I’m not against red pill overall, but some of it is absurd. I work around wealthy high status men at a country club….their wives / girlfriends are usually 5 years younger, 10 at most….yes they are very attractive women though. Not a single one is with a 20 year old…at most they may have an affair, and they’re probably having to buy her expensive gifts….tricking basically for gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:53 PM
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High status Successful men go for slightly younger (~5 years, maybe 10) and super fit and beautiful. I work at a wealthy country club….All those super wealthy men are not with 20 year olds….not even close. Maybe, just maybe, they have secret affairs with 20 year olds where they’re basically tricking/buying them gifts I don’t even know it would be socially acceptable for them to show up with a 20 year old wife at 40+
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:50 PM
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lol you don’t tell women about the red pill. You just apply the principles. The older red pill stuff was much better btw….modern Red Pill is just trashy entertainment, some of it is borderline misogyny….think Fresh and Fit. If you properly apply the principles, you can really bring out the best in a woman. If you just get angry by sensationalized Red Pill rage entertainment it won’t help
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:14 AM
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Good point. Kinda like womens libido can be raised to the level of a man’s, but she has to be aroused first? That’s what I’ve noticed…women may not be constantly horny, but once they get going, my gosh do they get going
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:06 AM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:14 PM
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Where did I say the quotes “due to feminism”? Yes those other factors led to the rise ( and increasing acceptance) of sex work. Somewhere along the way a new form of feminism supported it. I can’t even keep up with what feminism means anymore, there’s so many different forms, often contradicting each other. By capitalism do you mean because of corporations like only fans and porn hub monetizing it? Or because the bottom percentile of people have to work 60-70 hours a week just to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:45 PM
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You’re right that historically feminism was anti sex work anti porn. One of those waves of feminism or sub types then normalized it. Most modern feminists support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:01 PM
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That doesn’t prove that women don’t store DNA either though. Just because it hasn’t been fully proven, doesn’t always mean it’s been disproven. It’s just unknown. Basically it’s a possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:04 AM
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I believe we absorb spiritual energy from every sexual partner. Some of that energy stays with us for life. So we should all be careful. Ofc this is purely a theory, it’s impossible to prove or disprove scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:59 AM
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Interesting, I had always thought there were slightly more women than men at all ages. Appreciate you providing the source too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:17 PM
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Usually someone in the FWB will want more though ….not always, but often enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:15 PM
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That last part is so true. I work out at least an hour every day….whether it’s a run, lifting, hiking, etc. My last ex talked about how much she loved that I was in great shape. A week later, she complained I spent too much time exercising. I was going to explain that if you want a super fit man, you’re going to have to accept that it takes time and dedication….but I had a feeling it would just be a futile argument. Tbf I am pretty stubborn about getting my exercise in every day….but if I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:09 PM
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You’re missing the points here. I was talking about what men in general talk about earlier. That’s different than the minority of men who become good with women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:08 AM
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grown men who are successful and happy with women are a minority of men... Agreed. It’s why there’s so many bitter men, and why women struggle too, due to a lack of quality men. The blue pill lies used to somewhat work, even if they were false, due to a variety of socioeconomic factors. It rarely works anymore. Red Pill tried to answer this problem. But Red Pill men often just enter into “red pill rage” and never snap out of it….and shows like F & F feed into it. That was never the intention of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:59 PM
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men are happy to brag to their friends about women tho I’m guessing you’re really young? Grown men over 30 rarely do that. then why would fresh and fit exist? Fresh and Fit is trashy entertainment, generally for men who are bitter toward women/ unsuccessful with women/ got burned by women. I’ve never seen a grown man admit to watching that garbage. Maybe young men discuss it though, IDK. Grown Men who are successful and happy with women are not watching Fresh and Fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:05 PM
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men are happy to brag to their friends about women tho I’m guessing you’re really young? Grown men over 30 rarely do that. then why would fresh and fit exist? Fresh and Fit is trashy entertainment, generally for men who are bitter toward women/ unsuccessful with women/ got burned by women. I’ve never seen a grown man admit to watching that garbage. Maybe young men discuss it though, IDK. Grown Men who are successful and happy with women are not watching Fresh and Fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:05 PM
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then why would men be embarassed to tell their buddies how they romance women? Because men have no interest in talking about stuff like that. That’s not how men bond with each other…at all. If anything it just sounds like bragging. Women talk about that kind of stuff. Men talk about things like sports, cars, etc it's only "masculine" to say "she threw herself at me and i did nothing but still hit" That’s not masculine at all…that’s goofy, immature, and braggadocio….either a super young guy or a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:38 PM
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That biological risk is why mother nature made womens sex drive harder to switch on…,so she doesn’t get so horny she just gets impregnated by some chump with bad genes. Take a man and woman who go two years without sex. The man will likely jump at the opportunity for sex with a 5 he doesn’t even know….the woman will not. Once a woman is into a man, has determined he’s worthy, her sex drive can rev up to the same level as a man. Men are essentially “on” automatically most of the time (if their ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:05 PM
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I believe it’s mainly the first part you said (many men cannot give it.) It’s not exactly emasculating to sweep a woman off her feet….if anything it requires a degree of masculinity, often a high degree of masculinity. It does require emotional intelligence, but that doesn’t always mean feminine. Emotional intelligence is just harder for men to grasp. Just like you can have a feminine woman who can utilize logic when she needs it, a masculine man can utilize emotion when he needs it….its about d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:56 AM
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I think she meant being the women who is in her feminine energy and glowing around her man is one of the best feelings for women too. At least I hope. Some women do think they want a simp though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:44 AM
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It doesn’t work the majority of the time , particularly on quality women…it’s just that it works once in a while , so for men without better “game” that can be good enough , but really they should be working on being more emotionally stimulating and they’ll do much better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:28 PM
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Isn’t it sometimes / usually more just about the validation, the attention, the feeling of being desired, the pseudo-love, or even the excitement, than actual sexual pleasure? (This applies to both men and women)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:17 PM
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I think that’s just when they’re unhappy and stressed with their marriage….which is most. Women tend to grow dissatisfied with their husbands too, it’s hard (but definitely not impossible) to keep the spark when married ….women need that spark to stay emotionally engaged
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:20 AM
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Well said. You sound more self aware and mature than the average woman. So many women, men too I’m sure, view the end of a relationship as if they wasted all their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:32 PM
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I get what you’re saying. I’ve seen it that way a lot…it sounds pessimistic, but it really isn’t. I look back at most of my relationships as good memories. I’m not even resentful toward any ex’s. And I just enjoy my time with whatever woman I’m with, while it lasts….if it lasts long, great. If not, then fine, time for a new experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:25 PM
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Sounds like you’ve never experienced it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:29 PM
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it really ruins anything they ever do for you I get what you’re saying and I used to think the same way. But over time you can learn to accept it and still enjoy the experience for what it is. You can love her, love being with her, without being consumed by love / falling in love. Most of the realities of life have an ugliness behind them….but we still try to enjoy and love life anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:17 PM
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”does she love me like this because of who i am or because of who i’ve built myself into?”. She loves the emotions you elicit in her. And associates those emotions with being in love with you. Stop eliciting those emotions, and there goes her love. will she leave the moment she detects some weakness or inadequacy? almost certainly. Not the moment she does….if she’s so obsessed she often will even overlook minor to moderate flaws, failures, etc or rationalize them. But you’re slowly chipping away…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:10 PM
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Yes exactly. It’s a different kind of love and experience for each gender. It’s important for people to understand that to have a truly satisfying experience. Red Pill touches on it, but doesn’t go deep enough. Blue Pill is delusional and ultimately even harmful. Illimitable Men and Jerr (anonymous author of The Wall Speaks) are the only two I know of that go really deep on it….especially Jerr. @Jerr_rrej on Twitter and IM is @tellyoursonthis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:49 AM
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While men can get swept off our feet, it’s not exactly our biggest fantasy, nor should it be….its almost selfish to expect it as a man. Men live to build, create, conquer, etc…..not to get caught up in intense emotional experiences like romantic love (which impede our logic and even our drive.) Instead we give women that intense emotional experience. In return, She will instinctively light up around you, make your life better, bring you joy any way she can, honor you, be loyal so long as you ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:33 AM
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Most women can get sex, even from a high value man, and most women can get a relationship from an average man. But Most women will not experience that feeling of being “swept off their feet”….because most men don’t know how to give it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:07 PM
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Depends what’s causing their lack of success. If it’s blue pill thinking, then they should adjust their thinking before giving up. Or if they have no idea how to interact with women, learn more about women…I’m always appalled by some of the stuff I see men writing women on dating apps (my female co workers regularly show me). Most Men have no understanding of women’s complex emotional needs. They get frustrated by women’s emotional nature, rather than embracing it. But ultimately some men were j…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:15 PM
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I get it man….it sucks that some men just get left behind, despite being good guys For some men it’s their fault for still buying into blue pill, despite all the available information showing it’s mostly false….sounds like you’re RP though Glad you can still find some happiness. Sometimes I have to remind myself when around women that if I were short, ugly, fat, etc all their affection would disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:04 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:19 PM
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No way in hell could I ever give up on women…. No matter how toxic the zeitgeist is, there’s still enough women out there willing to be super feminine and girly around you, if they respect you and you stimulate the proper emotions in her. It’s one of life’s greatest pleasures being around a woman who’s obsessed with you….heck she’s straight up glowing around you That said, I’m realistic enough to know that some men were genetically cursed, through no fault of their own, and I definitely feel for…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:02 PM
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That’s an interesting theory….I could see how it’s possible for sure, just not sure how common it is. I’d argue the women likely to do this already had some pre existing issues, most likely with their father, but possibly an ex, and showed signs of toxicity. Women like this also tend to view men as competition….particularly in the work force…and when if fail to succeed in the competition, use it as proof of “patriarchy.” Deep down they are very conflicted, because they are still wired to love th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:53 PM
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True….but the main reason she will regret it is if she finds out you were a fraud. It’s hard to fake all that….but back in the day nerdy PUA’s did….not sure how effective that is nowadays though….my guess would be much less effective
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:38 PM
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You have to learn to read her cues…..I know this frustrates men (e.g. “I’m not a mind reader) , I totally get it, but it’s just how most women are….gotta work with it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:59 AM
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You can learn to read her cues….problem is it takes some experience, so if you mess up along the way it could be bad. But if you’re Chad, you get lots of room for error, so you can learn as you go
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:58 AM
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How to safely approach: 1 Be very attractive ( preferably extremely attractive) 2 Make sure she smiles or sends a signal first 3 Be charismatic and charming. (Preferably Make it feel like something out of a movie.) You’ll never have a problem… even if she has to say no (e.g. she’s married) she will be too happy to care. Otherwise, you’re right, not a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:38 AM
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That’s such a small minority of them. 99.9999% of them just suffer in silence. I work with an awkward, short, unattractive incel. He’s 20 years old and has a heart of gold. He confides his pain to me sometimes and it’s heartbreaking. Yet he still treats everyone well. Even the women at work comment on how sweet he is, even though they’d never date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:44 PM
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Interesting. I had the wrong definition….always thought communism was where the means of production were owned and controlled publicly. And socialism was where it was still mostly private, but then the government redistributed heavily (e.g. social programs) Also communism being more authoritarian, socialism still being a semi free society. But looking at how incredibly inefficient the state is at running stuff, socialism sounds like it wouldn’t make nearly as much progress as capitalism can….alb…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:39 PM
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What did you say to him? How do I end it in a way that causes minimal pain for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:04 PM
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Well said. I’m with this woman now, she treats me so well, fun to be around, yet something is missing. It feels weird to end a good (but not great ) thing, and I don’t even know how to….everything that ended was because of fights, incompatibilities, or occasionally mutual decision. I do care about her too, just not in an “I love you “ kind of way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:33 PM
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I don’t know why I feel this way….probably because it’s been instilled in me for so long from an early age. I can’t seem to erase this programming, despite knowing it’s false. Or more accurately, I feel like I at least owe her a chance at a relationship. I just couldn’t have sex with a woman where we’re into each other and then vanish like some men do….I have this annoying guilt complex, it sucks But sometimes I wonder if this is worse, because she gets more attached. But on the flip side, I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:23 PM
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JW what is socialism in your definition? (Asking In good faith) I hear so many different definitions of socialism. People can’t even agree if Denmark is socialist. Heck I’ve seen debates on if Venezuela was socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:42 PM
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If you do end up goatmaxxing please report back to us how it goes….oh wait….no access to Reddit out there
/r/TheRedPill10/12/23 04:12 PM
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Polite yes, naive no. I’m polite too, because it’s a good value for both men and women. I know very feminine women who are still intelligent and even strong. Gender feminists tend to want to ridicule femininity for reasons I won’t get into…. They try to convince you of nonsense like this. But take a good look at gender feminists….most of them are miserable deep down, and on anti depressants….sure they project a strong, happy image, but it’s a facade….do you really want to be like them? That said…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:17 PM
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Become super feminine. It’s so rare, some men will be like “wow I better lock her down”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:26 PM
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That’s what disgusts me most about Biden and The Left….their foolish ideology that praises weakness and victimhood as virtuous….it allows evil to triumph. They sent in half ass weaponry until Ukraine lost tons of territory….why? Cuz they were scared of Putin… After Russia takes territory, then they send in slightly better weaponry to take back what should have never been lost….too little too late. We needed a courageous leader like JFK to stand up to Putin….Biden has gotta be the weakest preside…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/23 08:03 PM
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Pretty sure they have internet there too now. Maybe not 20 years ago though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:53 AM
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If they’re emotionally obsessed with you, I doubt they’re with other men. Especially considering most men can’t properly stimulate women’s emotions….she’ll compare the other guy to you and deem him too boring
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:45 AM
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Bingo. All these guys saying women are takers, have never seen how much a woman gives when trying to win over a man she is obsessed with (or when she does win over a man, but is jealous/afraid to lose him)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:10 AM
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If she’s using him, then she’s doing her best to make sure she’s taking way more than she’s giving. But if she’s genuinely into him, she will be putting in tons of effort to convince him she’s a great woman worth committing to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:04 AM
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Women will work insanely hard to win over a man they’re deeply interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:01 AM
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Most Chads are actually fine….they’re too busy enjoying their abundance to care about bullying people. Heck, many of them are black pilled ( even if they don’t formally know the term.) It’s the Normies, the simps, white nights, etc that get most offended….they don’t want their narrative threatened…but deep down they know they’re being emasculated….they’re actually incredibly insecure, but their ego won’t allow them to admit it….so they bully to feel better about themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 04:04 PM
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You need to direct that comment to Someone else…..I do fine with women. This whole assuming every guy here is an incel stuff is ridiculous….I’m constantly called an incel here, yet I’m far from it. I just enjoy debating gender dynamics, and this is the most realistic sub…,it is kinda funny how the incels have the most accurate worldview….sometimes you can see things better from the sidelines though, and also reality hits them too undeniably hard. I’m an autistic Chad, and that’s plenty enough to…
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 03:08 PM
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Lol for real….I’m always baffled that we’ll pay literally thousands of dollars every day to keep 95 year old vegetables alive for six more months, while functioning people can’t even afford their rent and food cuz they’re being taxed so much to fund said vegetable’s non sentient existence
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:53 AM
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Damn that’s infuriating to look at. Especially paying interest on debt from previous generations….,as if boomers didn’t fuck up enough by promoting the blue pill
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:24 PM
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Exactly. It’s too expensive out here , rent is outrageous, homes are unaffordable to most people, cars are barely affordable, food and gas keeps going up , etc and the government takes 30-40% of our money to spend on ridiculous things we don’t even need.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:00 PM
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I’d have no issue contributing to the roads I drive on, the fire department, some state parks, a few other necessities….. but that’s less than 0.1% of my tax money….the rest is basically stolen and handed out to politicians friends and “lobbyists “
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:14 PM
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Don’t forget paying for Chad’s abandoned kids.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:08 PM
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Lmao 😂
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:43 PM
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Wow now that was a truth bomb 💣 haha…appreciate the honesty
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 12:49 AM
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Well said man. I’m a Chad looks wise, but autistic….so technically not a true Chad. I was ugly and awkward until high school….then suddenly I became attractive and was treated significantly better. At first I thought people appreciated my personality despite my autism….eventually the Black Pill was undeniable. I have a ton of empathy for incels though….I was one of them pre high school, and if I lost my looks I’d be a Spergy incel….keeps me humble and compassionate. I also stand with incels in e…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 10:47 PM
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I get ya there. I have learned to accept it. But losing too much freedom would be unacceptable.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:10 PM
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You’ll care when you’re living under an authoritarian matriarchal government….not saying that will definitely happen, but it’s the path we’re on
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:58 PM
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I see why at first glance you don’t care. But it’s female entitlement that’s leading to society spiraling out of control, becoming degenerate, losing freedom, censorship, feelings over facts, single mother epidemic, male mental health ridiculed, etc….this is pre-matriarchy. It’s hard to see the link at first though. Also, While I accept that 95% of the women I date are former ho’s, part of me still thinks it would have been nice to find a more pure woman, even if it meant less sex for me….but wh…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:57 PM
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I mentioned both Betabuxxing and simping, because while Betabuxxing is technically a form of simping, simping can go well beyond just betabuxxing. And yes Betabuxxing is mainly about $$, and often stability to a degree. Simping could be as simple as giving women undeserved attention, white knighting, putting on a pussy hat and marching with feminists, etc. The simping is arguably even more pathetic because like you said, it almost never leads to sex….they’re a glorified tool…at least you could a…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:50 PM
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It boosts female narcissism, ego, and entitlement…sure the simp gets nothing, but the woman sure does.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:42 PM
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Exactly….just putting some 🥰😍 emojis on an E-Thot’s IG comments is classic simping….costs nothing
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:30 PM
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Haha that’s what’s so funny…. The Normies, the simps, and the BetaBuxxers hate Chad….yet the incels pretty much accept him ….even admire him at times
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:13 PM
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That’s pretty much what I suspected. I couldn’t help but notice incels almost never criticize Chad….they do criticize the simps, and the foolishness of women chasing Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:05 PM
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That would be great. Let them feel the shame of their Betabuxxing. Society gives them fake social rewards for Betabuxxing, which keeps them doing it. We need to reverse that.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 09:17 PM
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I agree, but you’ll never fully stop Betabuxxing. But it can certainly be reduced with more awareness.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:32 PM
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My social circle is great….why would you assume otherwise? Girls who aren’t crazy about guys are usually damaged….women are instinctively drawn to attractive masculine men. They can’t control it. They need some serious trauma to override that strong instinct. (Unfortunately this is common, but still not most women….just a significant minority.)
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:55 PM
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Why’s that bullshit? I’ve seen plenty cranky, RBF women brighten right up when Chad talks to them. Unless she’s like some extreme deranged feminist lesbian
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:51 PM
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Haha I think I missed that train. It is what it is. Gotta make the most of things as they are.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 01:47 AM
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Chad still brightens her day though….her fantasy mind takes over when Chad gives her attention
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:39 AM
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Eh I’ll still date the formers ho’s. But they’re not becoming my wife.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:37 AM
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Classic blue pill argument. Pointing out some (often rare) exceptions as if it disproves a general trend. It’s so dumb when you really think about it. Exceptions are interesting to study, but they don’t disprove a general trend.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 07:13 PM
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More like needing those spaces to form the friendships and camaraderie. Men don’t just become friends over emotional bonding (like women,) it’s through shared goals, groups, etc , then they can emotionally bond. Classic example is send a group of five completely different men to war, and watch the beautiful brotherly bond that forms between them.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 06:01 PM
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We don’t do it because there’s few male spaces any more. Fraternal organizations used to be common. All kinds of men groups. Then women got jealous of them, and instead of sticking to their own groups (which they’ve always also had), they insisted on joining the men’s groups. Once women join men’s groups the whole dynamic changes….it becomes all about the women. Whatever will protect their feelings, whatever their feelings tell them should be, has to be catered to. Even colleges, now female domi…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:19 PM
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300 mg Is pretty low, but it all depends on how much you’re going to drink. If you’re going to drink until drunk I would skip the Phenibut. Things can get pretty unpredictable. Not quite the same, but I’ve mixed booze and benzos in the past with horrible consequences, including arrests that still haunt me years later
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 01:55 PM
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That’s been my experience with it too. Probably the most helpful substance out there (or Amphetamine)
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:46 AM
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Hmmm Does it feel like they’re trying to assess your provider potential? Generally in my experience on dates ( first and second dates) I can mostly avoid her asking me too many questions by getting her to talk endlessly about herself. It’s pretty easy due to her self obsession. I dig for what’s unique about her and give her some mild validation for it. This feels like a drug to her. She’ll want to tell you more In hopes of Getting even more validation. Most men don’t do this, so it’s exciting to…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:32 AM
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What happened to your brain? Have you ever researched cerebrolysin or BPC 157?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 10:47 PM
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Did you ever use it? How was it?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 10:21 PM
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Interesting, yeah I’ve heard Phenibut can be good too. What dose did you use? I tried it once (1.5 grams) I felt less inhibited, but still functional. It was at a wedding and I even danced (no booze either.) I’m wondering if 2 grams or more give even better sociability, or just causes sloppy behavior
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 09:38 PM
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What did you use to try it? Def agree it’s very exhausting. I need to take stimulants and be well rested. And yeah I hear ya on it being easy to slip.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 09:21 PM
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That sucks bro. But yeah, women are only fun when they have a burning desire for you.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:41 PM
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I should have been more clear with my use of the word “love.” “ falling in love” should be for women…. A deeply intense emotional experience. A man in love loses his sense of reason, and will even tolerate disrespect ( which often starts very subtly at first.) A man, however, can still love a woman ….just not “fall in love.” More like love spending time with her, love the way she melts In your arms, love the respect she gives you, love how she’s obsessed and in love with you…and love giving her …
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:17 PM
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What rights have you lost? I’m asking In good faith too and genuinely curious. The biggest (and really only) setback I can think of is overturning Roe v Wade….and even that was just a Pyrrhic victory for conservatives. (I lean pro choice within reason, If my bias matters) There was overwhelming public backlash that caused numerous pro choice laws to be enacted elsewhere, and probably negatively affected the mid terms for conservatives. Those states will eventually lose their abortion bans. The l…
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 02:09 PM
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You’re not going to get a proper debate with him. All he will do is deflect, gaslight, ad hominem, point out exceptions as if they disprove a general trend…..essentially like arguing with a woman. He’s a white knight and a simp. Maybe when Chad bangs his girlfriend raw, maybe, just maybe, he’ll see the error in his ways
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:30 PM
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Keep giving him attention and he’ll stay active. He needs to bully and white knight to feel better about how emasculated he’s become. Negative reactions from you make him feel powerful.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 03:08 AM
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When a woman is still young and semi-innocent she can truly capture the fantasy of a man. Blue Pill men certainly fall in love with a fantasy. They selfishly express themselves hoping for her validation, so they may elevate her to Goddess status. Ideally though a man can learn to love a woman as she is….and to do this, he must allow her to live out the fantasy of being with her dream man.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 02:58 AM
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The Wall Speaks by Jerr. “Love is for women. A man can love a woman to a degree, but all the emotional energy should be on the woman’s side.” “Shatter the Feminine Frame of Authority in Your Mind and Be Free.” “A man needs to be secretive in order to reassure a woman of his mental strength.” “Women only understand their own narrow emotional view of reality.” Lots of truths about women in here, and how to handle them as a man.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 12:54 AM
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Lots of things can crack that image, but until it shatters, you as the man won’t really know. Banger comment here. Discussions like this are why I love this sub
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 12:01 AM
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Bible definitely has some great wisdom, and is a true literary masterpiece. But it’s more like you have to peruse it, rather than just read it. You have to deeply think about the meaning behind the stories, the motivations of the characters, what it says about human nature and life, etc. The Book of Genesis is a good read….teaches about envy, how wicked and degenerate people can be, how women compete for male attention (Jacob’s love in this story,) sibling rivalry, etc
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:38 PM
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Attractive Men should definitely be working out it they want to maintain their looks. Chad can stay Chad until his late 40’s with a good body and diet, skin care, and preferably keep his hair. There’s 2 Chads at my work in late 40’s and women swoon over them….even some younger ones. One is even balding (but wears a hat) Women can stay pretty into their 40’s also with exercise, diet, and skin care. Becoming fat is the most common way people lose their looks. It’s preventable.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:25 PM
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Women get wild in their 40’s. Even the shy/conservative ones often lose their inhibitions, and escalate fast.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:18 PM
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This is why “game” and “PUA” is mostly foolish. It makes things worse for Chad (kills some mystery, risks messing it up) and for an ugly man (he’ll just look corny.) Maybe for an average guy, under age ~25, “game” could stimulate enough emotions though to at least get some quick sex….if he is willing to go through a lot of embarrassing trial and error, and he can make sex happen quick.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 08:50 PM
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Exactly…this is actually a really important point. She will show concern, she will give you feminine comfort at first…..you think “wow I have a unicorn! She’s amazing, she stands by me at my worst!” But over the weeks and Months her fantasy image slowly chips away…..then she’s subtly a bit more distant, needs a girls night out, etc. You may sense something, but it’s so subtle and delayed, that it’s hard to pinpoint the actual cause. You think “She was so supportive. Surely it’s something else.” …
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:11 PM
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Yupp…blue pill legit causes divorces, destroys mens mental health. A serious social contagion masquerading as virtue.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:05 PM
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It’s crazy how bad opening up is. And women genuinely believe they want you to open up…so they sound so convincing when they tell you to. If she loves you, she does actually care about you….she doesn’t even realize you opening up will kill the fantasy in her imagination. Heck, she doesn’t even realize she’s only in love with a fantasy image….to realize that would kill the magical feeling. If you’re in a vulnerable spot, and she’s showing that much concern, the temptation to open up is overwhelmi…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:22 PM
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For sure bro. This is actually a consolidated post of a deeper discussion we had a while back. https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/s/xym8WxQaWJ
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:16 PM
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That’s just how blue Pillers and NPC’s have been programmed to think. Pointing out flaws in women = Misogyny!!! Hive Mind.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:33 PM
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Interesting observation. This could be a post rather than just a comment
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:22 PM
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4 was the hardest for me. I used to think everyone really liked me for me. Despite my autism, they saw through it, because I was a good person. But it’s more like, they overlook my autism because I’m attractive. Not complaining….It’s just a mind f*ck.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:17 PM
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Lonely Fans haha how did I never hear that one
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:09 PM
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I’m sure you would. He’ll make for a great man bitch, a safe back up plan if you can’t secure a high value man. You’d enjoy his simping and worshiping of you briefly, but you’d eventually be disgusted by it. But I doubt you have the self awareness to realize that.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 06:02 PM
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Haha exactly….but that’s not the case….so Beating down incels makes him feel better about his lack of genuine desire from women, and his submission to them. Deep down he knows it emasculating, but this is his cope and rationalization….feeling superior to incels. He’ll probably end up raising Chads kid anyways….possibly unknowingly lol
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 11:15 PM
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Wow that’s interesting, thanks for taking the time to write that. The most I’ve taken is 50 mg, maybe 75 once, I don’t remember feeling anything but I was also having a ton of anxiety from taking too many stimulants that day. Matter of fact I’m over stimmed now, took 25 mg earlier, going to take another 50 mg. Yeah I waste energy a lot….seems I’m always either super exhausted or super stimulated. I’ve used Bupropion in the past, it did help with motivation and focus, but the anxiety was too over…
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 09:52 PM
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What is it you like about lamitrogine? Is it hard to discontinue if you decide to stop? Will it lower motivation and/ or sex drive? I’m prescribed some for the constant sense of dread I feel. But I only use it acutely, and she says I need to take it daily,…but I’m scared of what it will do if I take it daily.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 08:02 PM
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I doubt he gets blow jobs. He’s a white knight and probably a Betabuxxer, trying to justify his behavior. Women don’t have carnal desire for these types of men. They’re weak, manipulative, and too similar to a woman for sexual polarity. At best he gets some occasional starfish sex, rationed out on the woman’s schedule, in exchange for a lot on his part. Whether or not that’s better than getting nothing is a separate debate. He probably gets cheated on when Chad comes around too….then Chad gets h…
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 07:58 PM
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Nothing against your comment. But I’d rather “pay” via giving her emotional stimulation. This is by far the best way to get sex. And it will be good passionate sex. Stimulating women’s emotions does take effort, but it can be fun. That said, you have to have a minimum attractive level for her to even be open to your emotional stimulation. So if a sub five guy wants to pay a SW , then so be it.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 07:42 PM
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Yes and not only that, but she fears that other high value men (and even other women) will think she’s low value if ugly men approach her…especially if she’s nice to him (even if it’s a nice rejection.) So In her mind this is signaling to everyone around that she’s not low value, that man was beneath her and out of line, and that she only entertains (and deserves) attractive men. Of course in reality this makes her look like a bitch, and would most likely push away attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:22 PM
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First paragraph fair enough. I’m not seeing all these men who are living so good. I see weak, emasculated, and depressed men everywhere. I think this is apex fallacy again. The top tier men grab your attention, the bottom men are less visible/invisible , giving the impression that men are living great. And I’d say up to 20% are isolated, depressed, and even hopeless. That’s a minority, but it’s still a lot. Even if the other 80% were living good (which they’re not), that still wouldn’t be ground…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 07:46 PM
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How on earth is feminism weak? That’s an interesting theory and I’m opening to hearing more. But the two arguments you make about the pick me’s and Red Pill don’t hold up upon a closer look. Although I see your sentiment. These are essentially forms of apex fallacy. Women act like pick me’s around the top tier men. This is because there’s not enough desirable men for every woman, so they have to compete. Women do not, and probably never would act like a pick me toward a simp or betabuxxer…. And …
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 07:38 PM
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I think the mods here just don’t want to get shut down. I’m sure they’d let more fly if they could
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:04 PM
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Well said. I’m here agreeing with the incels. (For the most part, Def some things I disagree on though) I’m Semi-Chad (I have Chad’s looks, but Asperger’s. I do well with women overall though) I don’t want to see them suffer and be ridiculed like this. It bothers me. It’s not right. I’d push for more awareness of men’s mental health and suffering if there were a way. But we’re all just isolated, other than Reddit. It might be my Asperger’s that brings me here. I know I’d be one of them if I didn…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:46 PM
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Yeah but the hope is eventually they’ll realize their strategy isn’t working. I’m sure many will cling to their false ideas to the death of course. But if things get bad enough, on both an individual and societal level, it’s going to be harder and harder for them to justify their behavior (which let’s face it, gets them very limited results.). More will wake up, especially with social media exposing it. The question is will it be enough waking up? What is the tipping point?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:16 AM
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I’ve even heard women literally release certain scents during sex that are unique to them that cause the man to become attached (I.e. in love) It’s a biological mechanism to help ensure his commitment, provisioning, and protection. I’ve only been in love once, but I remember she had this strong floral like scent about her, that got even stronger during and after sex. It was a natural scent unique to her, not some soap or perfume. It used to make me feel super calm, it’s kind of hard to describe,…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 12:04 AM
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Well said. Love is basically an illusion. Women project all their fantasies onto an attractive , masculine man who gives her a nearly blank slate. Womens imaginations are pretty fascinating. It’s so important to be aware that she’s in love with the image her imagination conjured up of you, not who you actually are. It’s a tough pill to swallow at first. But once you accept it, and learn to work with it, you can become incredibly seductive. (So long as you never give up the image, never give away…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 08:35 PM
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Well that’s good you don’t simp. And if you’ve decided to check out, I can’t even blame ya. But hopefully men do wake up and come together. It seems unlikely, but with social media exposing the blue pill and simping, it’s not impossible. If not, Feminism will eventually be its own collapse. They’ll take so much power, that eventually enough men will rebel. Just like patriarchy got too out of control and women eventually rebelled . Suppose it’s just a natural cycle of things. Although the majorit…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:34 PM
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So we just sit back and let feminism grow more out of control? Until we have an oppressive, authoritarian, degenerate matriarchy? Trust me, they’ll never have enough power. They’ll keep taking more and more. If men are weak enough to allow it, they will…on an individual level and a macro level. Like seriously what is wrong with us as men today? (myself included) It starts with putting an end (or at least a limit) on the simping and white knighting and exposing the blue pill….feminism could never…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:18 PM
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I believe this is called anti Natalism. Or at least it’s a form of it. Essentially, the world and life is so full of suffering, that we shouldn’t be creating more people, as this creates more suffering. Also there’s limits on resources, etc. There’s no objective answer to if it’s actually right or wrong, it’s mainly a subjective debate. I don’t even know exactly where I stand on the pro natalism or anti natalism spectrum, probably somewhere in the middle. It’s an interesting topic to ponder and …
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:10 PM
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It doesn’t have to be this way. We’ve allowed ourselves to become divided, and see each other as competition. Women are in competition too, after all they’re all fighting for the same 10% of men, so there’s not enough for all of them. Yet they put that aside and work together to better female interests as a whole. Fraternal organizations used to be common. Now they’re mostly unisex, which essentially means they got taken over by feminists and gynocracy….so they’re useless. We really should be cr…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 06:54 PM
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Most are. A few self aware, noble humans rise above their animal instincts. But most don’t.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:25 PM
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Yeah women saying they want emotional men is one of the most damaging lies we hear….it literally causes divorces and splits families apart. And they don’t even realize it’s a lie. They control education and media, so they can mass spread their delusions now too. It’s really crazy to think about. And I get that excess crying is probably never ok. If you shed a few tears over an extreme event that may be forgiven, or even endearing. So true about the image too. Women will literally fill in the hol…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:39 PM
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Damn bro that really sucks. At least she was upfront about that. Most women wouldn’t have the self awareness to admit that. And even if they did, they would feel too guilty to. It’s great that you learned your lessons too. Some men , if not most men, just keep making the same mistakes over and over until they eventually start to hate women. (This is why the blue pill arguably leads to more misogyny than the red pill.) Yeah, that’s bullshit about her not liking you crying about your mom. Like dam…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:37 PM
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Great add on. Definitely never admit that. It takes years of studying and dating women to truly master them. But make it seem like it just comes naturally to you. Nothing romantic about studying them lol
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:34 PM
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If Chad falls in love it’s an issue. She’ll start noticing he’s weaker for her, and more emotional. She will feel she conquered him. Love your woman, but don’t fall in love. Stay rational, while enjoying her emotions. Treat her well, but don’t worship her. Cherish her, But never to the point you can’t live without her. Always be willing and able to walk away if she mistreats you.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 09:09 PM
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I think they’re in denial, or trying to justify it
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:23 PM
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Exactly. If a women doesn’t get super giggly, nervous, smiley, glowing, etc, after first seeing you, she will never have that passionate desire. But You can still get some desire if you compensate with money, personality, etc. You’ll never feel that carnal feminine lust though (one of the greatest things a man can ever experience.) You know from the moment she meets you. Women will gaslight with things like “well he grew on me over time and now I love him.” That’s partly true, but it’s not lust.…
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 03:30 PM
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They’re desensitized to the simps. Chad’s attention makes her light up and tingle
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 02:10 PM
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“Bro” is a term for us guys to use in a friendly way with each other. When a woman says “bro” suddenly I start looking at her like she’s a bro…..in other words a guy friend, not a woman
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:03 PM
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Almost didn’t recognize you there without the 45 avatar. But your style is hard to miss. Sometimes I agree with you , sometimes not, but your perspectives are interesting. This one I mostly agree with
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:33 PM
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Why would she bother approaching a man she’s not attracted to? Women do initiate the approach from an attractive man….they give fairly obvious cues for him to approach, and make it easy for him
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:18 PM
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Most geniuses are men and most idiots are men. Most billionaires and most homeless people are men. Corporate Machiavelli said this , although I can’t find the exact quote. @Corporatemach on twitter
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 02:21 PM
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I would imagine so! That’s pretty messed up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:59 PM
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That doesn’t sound right. Usually by the time you see their body, you’re pretty turnt on and ready to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:54 PM
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Oh yeah Betabuxxing how fun /s But yeah if you’re ugly you would have to decide what’s worse - the disrespect of Betabuxxing , or not getting women at all. Each man will come to his own conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:15 PM
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That sound really interesting. Aren’t they super strict there though? Like you won’t be able to get any alone time a girl, doesn’t she always have to be monitored by her father / another male authority? Or have they westernized ? (Aka becoming degenerate)
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 01:11 PM
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I’d agree if you’re a 7 that’s just acceptable enough to where you can use personality to make up for being average. A 6, you would need extreme amounts of charisma. And even then it probably wouldn’t be burning desire, just some desire. 5 and below is 99% hopeless for genuine attraction (not moneymaxxing)
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:40 PM
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Pretty sure It’s staged.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:36 PM
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Agree love is the most beautiful feeling ever. But it’s also an illusion. But if she’s not truly in love (I.e. obsessed with you) it’s a major risk. If she’s obsessed, ( https://reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/s/XCoWr8RuI8 ) there’s still risk, but it’s one worth taking (but not marriage)
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:29 PM
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Just make sure you’re not in a common law state
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:25 PM
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Yikes. That really sucks man. But yeah no expensive dates before sex.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:24 PM
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Damn I wanna go there now
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 07:06 PM
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I actually do have compassion for short guys. It’s pretty messed up that you’re probably a good guy, but because of genetics (not your choice) you’re condemned to loneliness and suffering. Shows how indifferent and brutal Mother Nature is. It’s actually depressing, and makes it hard to believe in a God.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:49 PM
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You will know if she is really in love or not. A woman truly in love is irrationally obsessed with you. She makes it so clear she’s in love….to you and everyone else too. She will melt in your arms, sex will be constant and passionate (including Blow jobs,) , gives you deep respect, focused on your well being, do practically anything for you, be glowing around you, look at you dreamingly ….it’s downright amazing She’ll have moments where she loses self control around you too….for example she’ll …
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 02:05 PM
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Weed makes me come up with some fun creative things to say, but also some really stupid things. So it’s like it either significantly improves my interaction with women, or severely impairs it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:36 AM
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Ok if you disagree, then explain why
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 07:28 PM
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Hell yeah
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:05 PM
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My experience, meditations, observations, logical analysis, etc. Mostly my experience though. I strongly feel the energy of a sexual partner. Heck even hugging someone you absorb some energy, albeit significantly less. If a woman had bad energy, I’ll often strongly feel it for a few days. If she had good energy, I’ll also feel that strongly for a few days. While it’s most intense for a few days after sex, it stays with me forever. I still have some of the energy of every woman I’ve ever been wit…
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:04 PM
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Explain why. This is a debate forum.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 12:58 PM
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You absolutely can debate about things that you have strong evidence for, without solid proof. That’s the point of debating. Most theories begin with strong evidence, until they are further proven. People then add evidence to the claim or dispute it. You may now chime in with a good counter argument to refute or weaken my claim if you disagree.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 12:57 PM
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You absorb the energy of every sexual partner. Some of that stays with you your whole life. Women being the receivers absorb much more energy, however men still absorb a lot of the woman’s energy too. The more sex partners someone has (man or woman), the less spiritually “pure” they are.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 12:43 AM
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Most women (>90%) will let Chad hit it raw. She’s probably just young and scared. Give her some time. Women scream things like “cum in my pussy” when Chad’s about to orgasm. They want his DNA so bad, even if they’re on BC.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 02:42 PM
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So Bernie Sanders, AOC, Antifa, etc would be considered leftists right? And Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, just liberals? Trudeau and Elizabeth Warren are probably pushing toward left, or center left, but still mainly liberals?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:48 PM
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Evolution was designed to assist survival in hunter gatherer societies. In civilization many of our instincts ( for both men and women) significantly harm us and society as a whole, hence need to be tamed. E.g. instincts to eat high fat sugary foods, instincts to respond with violence, mistrust of outsiders, and yes, hypergamy too. Hypergamy worked in hunter gatherer societies, one of mother nature’s mechanisms to ensure our genetic strength keeps growing (the best genes of each generation repro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:29 PM
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True, Just a 30-45 minute calisthenics workout twice a week can put on a surprisingly nice amount of muscle tone. With a lean frame/ low body fat you can look incredible, but also very natural.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 01:07 PM
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Good point. I don’t follow much media (right of left wing,) so was barely aware this was going on. I do remember when I discovered The Red Pill five years ago, hardly anyone knew about it. Felt like secret knowledge
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 06:21 PM
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Thanks bro. As some commenters mentioned, I should have focused a bit more on how The Black Pill threatens to put an end to Simping and Blue Pill fantasies….both serve female interests.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 06:12 PM
1

That’s an interesting insight, thanks for sharing. What’s a good example of this? (I ask In good faith)
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 06:09 PM
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There you go with the idea that they’re terrorists. The overwhelming majority are just silently suffering alone. They are good human beings , dealt a shit hand. Yes there’s a few extremists who commit atrocities. They should absolutely be denounced. Very few incels endorse them. Maybe if society hadn’t treated them so atrociously, given even just a little bit of concern, they would have not done that. Every time there’s a shooting, there’s a good chance an incel did it. That’s an opportunity for…
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 05:31 PM
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That actually should have been the first bullet
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 03:48 PM
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Damn that’s spot on. I Should have mentioned that under point 3 (Awareness)
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 03:30 PM
2

I just wonder if they genuinely care, or if they’re “concern trolling.”
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 03:13 PM
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Definitely. What people don’t realize about the femcels is they’re usually so awkward they can’t allow the romance to blossom. This girl at work is so Awkward and shy she can barely say hi to anyone….how the heck is she going to go on dates? Not to mention, women have a biological aversion to having relations with genetically inferior men….even if those men are on their level. So while the incels are willing to be with the femcels, the femcels are biologically unable to be with the incels. This …
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:29 PM
1

Yes and no depending on who you ask. Really I was referring to non autistic people, I should have been more clear About that. That was kind of a side note though …..my main point is the end game of BlackPill is to give them a sense of camaraderie, something to bond over ( their suffering), and to cope
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 06:43 PM
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I have incredible sympathy for the incels. Most of them are good guys, but cursed to a life of loneliness and poor treatment because of their inferior genetics (something they had no say in) It’s really f*cked up the more you think about it. But Mother Nature is indifferent.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 06:41 PM
1

I definitely see your sentiment there. And yeah black pill can be very nihilistic. But there is an endgame, it’s just not easy to spot. The primary goal (or endgame) is coping and camaraderie. Endlessly talking about it does look very pointless to an outsider. But it’s how they cope and it’s how they bond. I hope that makes sense. Men not only need romantic affection from women , but they need a sense of camaraderie with other men. They especially need it when they don’t have women….how do men s…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 06:33 PM
1

Ok let’s break this down more. It doesn’t all come down to physical attraction for women. It’s just that without physical attraction you can’t even get your foot in the door. Also, The more physical attraction a man has, the more his shortcomings are forgiven. So physical attraction comes first and foremost. A man also needs masculinity to be attractive. Next he needs to be emotionally stimulating to get her hooked on him. Good looking men aren’t necessarily assholes. You could argue that all th…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 03:05 PM
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True but many people, particularly males, and especially intelligent autistic males, love to get at the truth. Sometimes truth just for the sake of truth and knowledge is a worthwhile goal. Others (most people actually, especially women) would prefer illusion(or at least being unaware) if that will help them deal with life easier. And yes truth is a “be careful what you wish for” kind of thing. You need the strength to bear it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 02:04 PM
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But what exactly is so wrong with the Black Pill taking hold? Sure it’s brutal and depressing , but many people just prefer to know the truth. People have been seeking out the truth for centuries.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:36 PM
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What do you mean by that? Maybe they just can’t deny reality any longer? My point in this post is I’m attractive and do well with women, but I’m still black pilled. I don’t struggle to cope because I know I’m lucky. I’m still black pill though. But how are these incels supposed to cope with their soul crushing loneliness? The deep spiritual emotional pain they suffer? They can only numb themselves so much. Hobbies are only so much fun. Human touch is absolutely essential for health. There’s nume…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:21 PM
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Damn bro that really sucks. If my Spergyness is out of control and I’m looking really crappy I get those looks too. But it’s temporary. I can’t imagine the emotional and spiritual pain of existing like that every day. It’s crazy cuz you did nothing wrong, you’re probably a good guy, and you get punished for losing a genetic lottery. It’s a mindf*ck. Brutal.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:14 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely not the worst thing in the world. Manlets have it the absolute worst for sure. How do you suggest fixing it? I’ve been using Beta Sitosterol, Saw Palmetto, and Sulphorophane. Started minoxidil and Ketoconzale few months ago. Plan to learn microneedling. Considering finasteride, but scared of the side effects. But a life of loneliness is probably much worse.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:02 PM
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Started off using them for LTR. But only been doing STR’s. No one night stands though (yuck.) I’ll keep dating the women and having sex as long as they’re ok with me not committing. It’s been too hard to commit. All the options as a “Chad” (I’m not actually Chad due to autism, but I look like him) are insane. And how could I commit to these women knowing they love me mainly for my looks?? They often ask to take pics with me (to post on their social media)….not cuz they love me so much, but cuz t…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 12:59 PM
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Dark Red Pill. The Red Pill taught me about female nature. It was tough to swallow, but I did. I ultimately became a better man and better with women. The Black Pill taught me just how brutal sexual selection really is…how we’re still just animals controlled by our biology. Unattractive men are cornered into a life of suffering sheerly because of their inferior genetics. It’s brutally unfair, but Mother Nature is indifferent.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:31 AM
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This isn’t about men. But men are much more honest about how shallow they are. Of course, some men lie and gaslight…that’s often toxic and/or narcissistic men though.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 12:55 AM
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Is it a big mind f*ck for you? It’s really messing with my head….but with how much spiritual pain the incels suffer, it’s surely nothing to complain about. How do you deal with it though?
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 12:48 AM
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Meh I love women… but I’m well aware it’s because of how good women treat me. I suppose It’s woman’s fault I love them so much (?) If I were short and / or ugly, women would probably ridicule me for my spergy behavior. I would not be able to love them like I do now. It’s a mind f*ck knowing they treat me so well (and forgive my Asperger’s) because of my looks. Black Pill.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 08:09 PM
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Can’t even argue with that, as much as I strongly disagree with roids. I used to be a severe poly addict, and life got so unbearable all I cared about was whatever it took to feel better in that moment…not what tomorrow held
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 07:54 PM
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If you’re hotter than her man at home, she’ll fuck you. Trust that she wants to get revenge on that guy for not committing. The question is do you want to fuck her? Personally I’m not dipping my pen in another man’s ink…. Even with a condom on.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 07:41 PM
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It’s not that they’re attracted to assholes per se, but the types of guys they’re attracted to tend to be assholes. They would much rather a strong but kind attractive man….but they’ll take a hot/attractive asshole over an unattractive “nice” (aka weak) guy. Very few men know how to be strong but kind….how to be a considerate leader for her, factoring in her opinions and needs, rather than a domineering tyrant. It takes nuance, intelligence and empathy to lead. Any idiot can be a tyrant/asshole …
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 07:22 PM
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Exactly….it’s fine for them to vent, but the vitriol is off putting. Maybe I’m too forgiving of women, but it’s not quite their fault their biology makes it so hard for them to pair with good (but unattractive) men. I’ve heard many women say this wish they could date that good nice guy, and lament how they’re attracted to assholes….they just can’t help it. I think socially inept is the key thing about the femcel. I’ve seen some ugly and fat women that are super friendly , flirty, and smily, and …
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 04:22 PM
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Oh yeah it’s a massive failure, and it’s only going to get worse. But in their mind, it’s an easy solution. Good luck convincing them otherwise. By the time they realize it was an egregious error, it will be too late
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 01:51 PM
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True birth rates will keep plummeting. But there’s an unlimited amount of immigrants eager to come here, so they’ll just keep bussing them in. That’s their “solution.” They may come in with traditional values at first, but the women will Eventually adapt Stacy’s values (even at risk of rebelling against their family)
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 01:24 PM
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Men won’t accept beta buxxing if they know about it. They’ll either gaslight and lie to themselves (“no she really does love me bro - you’re just jealous!”) to cope with the ugly reality of it all….or they will accept reality and sink into a horrible depression and despair similar to the incels. Without the beta buxxers accepting their role, protests may break out, and women will be left with no back up plan for a family….just a life in Chad’s harem..,,at this point her only option will be to in…
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 01:08 PM
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I’ve always said women can’t control their biology. They can’t help but be attracted to hot masculine men (even if they’re assholes)…,it’s not their fault. Like you said , it’s the lying that’s the problem. They could be more honest about it (granted I think they lie to themselves as well, as their cruel hypergamous nature conflicts with their virtuous self image ) They especially lie about the Betabuxxers though, pretending he’s her “dream man” when she’s suddenly ready to marry. Great comment …
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:55 AM
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Exactly. It’s not only because they want him sexually. They also want to get him more attached. They’re well aware if they don’t have sex with him, another woman will
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:41 AM
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I pick great women. Women treat me well. Why? Because I’m attractive. Those same women then treat less attractive men differently. Women treat men differently based on how attractive they are, and how masculine/ strong they are. Is what it is…no point in denying it, other than to cope or look virtuous
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:39 AM
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I’m autistic, but attractive. As a result, my autism is often forgiven and overlooked.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:33 AM
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Yeah and those “less hot” people get treated worse and have to go through more hoops. You’re inadvertently proving OP’s point, as well as the Black Pill in general. It’s hilarious how women always end up revealing the truth.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:27 AM
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And suddenly when they’re with the short/ugly guy they finally learned their lesson. Coincidence of course /s
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:17 AM
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I mostly agree, and I still think Betabuxxing and Simping is sad. But at least they get touched and hugged occasionally. The lack of touch is terrible for your health.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:13 AM
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Yeah that’s fine if you made that mistake once. What about women who repeatedly make that “mistake?” They know the risks. They know what they’re getting into. Sometimes guys are perfectly clear they won’t commit…,women still fuck with the thinking “well if I fuck him good enough, I can get him attached.” Then when he still won’t commit (like he said he wouldn’t) they claim he’s an asshole….when actually she was the one trying to manipulate him Into a relationship!
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:11 AM
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Shouldn’t they at least try to get something? You’d really want to go your whole life without even hugging a woman?
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:03 AM
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You make the mistake of assuming that cuz I’m black pilled, I’m unattractive….in reality my attractiveness is what black pilled me. I know it’s not my generic “bio” and Spergy “personality “ getting me so many women. You really think a betbuxxer can trick a woman into paying like that? Sure it shows good humor….but you know she will “forget” her wallet….or just cancel if she realizes he’s serious about not paying. No way she’s paying for him, she doesn’t even respect him. A good joke won’t chang…
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 08:49 PM
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Definitely agree modern dating culture has become toxic…by giving everyone too much freedom, female hypergamy and male polygyny have gotten out of control….and nearly everyone suffers for it. It really is disgusting how we venerate single motherhood. Abortion is celebrated too…I’m not necessarily against abortion …,but celebrating it!? Seems evil. Yes the average guys and below average women are the ones who suffer the most. Since joining this sub, it’s been really upsetting hearing just how muc…
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 08:28 PM
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Yeah it’s always been the case, but it’s gotten much worse with social media and dating apps. Socially enforced monogamy (particularly arranged marriages), which allowed “one woman for every one man,” forced many women to go against their biology. This allowed civilization to come about, but was an egregious assault on woman’s reproductive rights and autonomy. Naturally women eventually rebelled against it. But as you said, women have become increasingly unrealistic about their options. So rathe…
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 05:54 PM
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If she sees you as inferior, you are going to have to compensate her. When Attractive men set a date, she goes right along with it….no questions, no alternative “suggestions.” A cup of tea that she pays for is perfectly fine with Chad. Short / ugly you need a five star restaurant, all on your bill. And that’s just for her time, don’t expect more than a handshake (or quarter second hug if you’re lucky)
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 03:07 PM
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Because according to Incel theory, female virgins could easily lose their virginity if they chose to. While that’s true, it overlooks some critical factors: 1, Female biology won’t allow them to have sex and relations with inferior genetics (unless sufficiently compensated.). This feels like an existential threat to them. 2, Womens emotions often won’t allow them to be used for a one night stand, even with a Chad. 3, Some women are so awkward and/or ugly and/or obese, even Chad will give up tryi…
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 03:00 PM
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My alcoholic criminal days were fun….just not sustainable.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 02:27 PM
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Because someone more attractive came along. Or he wasn’t providing enough emotional stimulation for her. If you don’t give her the emotional stimulation she needs, she’ll find it elsewhere. No matter how attractive you are. Guys get too comfortable and weak in their “relationships”
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 01:07 PM
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Damn bro, hate to hear that. Before joining this sub I never realized just how much the incels silently suffer in deep spiritual pain every day. It’s upsetting; I don’t even know what to do about it. I really hope you find someone. I see why people give condescending platitudes like “just be yourself and she’ll come along when you least expect it.” Like fuck man I don’t want you to be cursed to a life of suffering; you’re probably a good guy.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 01:34 AM
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Sex doesn’t always have to be love, but it should at least be a passionate genuine desire from both people. The way a woman has sex with you when she’s consumed with passion is out of this world. It’s hard to describe, but she loses control of herself and it’s amazing to know you overwhelmed her like that. No escort can give that experience to an inkwell. Inkwells have legitimate pain.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 11:30 PM
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You don’t have to be an incel or unattractive to be black pilled.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 06:40 PM
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Their biology won’t allow them to love or have sex with inferior genetics. This is an existential threat to her hind brain. It’s a curse Mother Nature has placed on us all. Sexual Selection. Some of them actually wish they could date down or across. “He was such a nice guy, good career and all, I just wasn’t feeling it.” (Feeling = passing her hypergamous filter. Logically she knows he was a good man.) “Why do I only find assholes attractive!?” (This is a genuine frustration to many women) “I’m …
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 06:32 PM
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Exactly. You point out an unflattering observation about women, they assume you’re incel. It’s ridiculous. You can do well with women and still reach the same conclusion…because it’s reality
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 06:07 PM
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Men sacrifice and take care of people too. Just in different ways. Maybe meant “ Emotionally Taking care of people is seen as feminine?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:40 PM
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I was wondering why there weren’t any black pill subs. Figures they banned them. Yeah society is growing weak for sure. Black Pill is wrongly associated with incels and misogyny from a few extreme examples. I study Black Pill because I just love getting to the core of reality. Whenever I mention something black pill I’m immediately called an incel….despite the fact I’m far from it. That’s great you’re doing well on OLD. I’ve had a lot of success too…..and I know it’s not because of my “bio” or m…
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 12:31 PM
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He has little concept of logic. Many of his arguments boil down to “well I saw an exception, therefore this generalization is untrue.” Exceptions exist, and are interesting to study, but they don’t make a general trend or observation false. He seems upset by the fact that you can observe large , varied groups of people and draw generalizations, since there’s an occasional rare exception. But it’s pretty easy to draw generalizations about human nature, and since the bulk of the time they’re accur…
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 07:07 PM
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Just because there’s not enough attractive men for women doesn’t mean women will accordingly lower their standards. They’ll choose to stay single before being with a genetically inferior male. Their biology literally tells them to. I should mention I’m tall and good looking , successful with women…,I just come here to debate ( probably because I’m autistic) I mostly support The Black Pill because it’s brutally correct on a lot, (although they sometimes exaggerate certain points. ) And yeah those…
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 06:56 PM
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His logic is horrendously bad for a male. Bro is probably BluePill BetaBuxxing hardcore.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 03:21 PM
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I wouldn’t say “plenty.” Plenty implies that for every short man, there’s a woman that’s ok with that. There’s not. There’s far fewer women who will tolerate short men, then there are short men….meaning most short men will get left behind in this dating market. The short guys who do get “lucky “ enough to get a woman, will still have to deal with her subconscious contempt for him. (E.g. when she sees other women with taller men, and thinks about the tall men in her past who wouldn’t commit.)
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 02:40 PM
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Lol yeah he/she is pretty obsessed with taunting incels.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 10:03 PM
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Exactly they’re victims of their own biology. Many women wish they could find an average nice guy attractive. Some even try their hardest to. Their biology just won’t allow them to.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 09:26 PM
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Is that ropeordope a man or a woman?
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 08:10 PM
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It’s definitely important to get that experience with girls when you’re a teenager, where it’s all new to them too, so they’ll forgive your awkward mistakes. I get that. Although if you decide to start dating, you will have to go through an awkward phase, you may mess up your first few dates, kisses, etc….. but you could always just look at it as necessary learning experiences rather than failures. If you could push yourself through the discomfort, learning everything now that you should have le…
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 01:45 AM
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Yeah that can be tough to overcome . Many of the short incels here would go to dramatic extremes to be 6’1. There might be hope for you, even if it’s an uphill battle. I don’t really know though. So Would you consider yourself a volcel? Like you have the looks to attract women, but it’s too hard to overcome all the mental and emotional trauma?
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 10:58 PM
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Damn. Well it sounds like you at least have a bright future ahead? Genuine Hope is pretty powerful.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 10:06 PM
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Lol someone had to say it.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:29 PM
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Then what is the problem? A disability? (I’m asking in good faith)
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:27 PM
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A lifetime of loneliness has horrible health consequences too….probably worse than the arthritis
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 09:06 PM
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Yes there’s double standards. Men and women are different. Therefore there are different standards and expectations. Crazy how people find that offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:00 PM
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So true. Most men are incredibly lame with their text game. Sure some women are too….but it’s often just cuz they’re burnt out. When she suddenly becomes interested, she’ll start putting so much effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:19 PM
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Ever since I found this sub, I’ve realized just how bad the pain of the incels really is, and how disgusting it is that people openly mock them. I wish I knew what to do about it. There should at least be more social awareness as a minimum start, and the mocking should stop.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:54 AM
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I do agree incels are unfairly suffering because of their genetics. How about destroying ( or at least disrupting) the radical feminist movement? Or whatever else is contributing to your suffering? Why the River?
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:36 AM
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That’s interesting how you got that from studies, and does add validity to it. But In Just day to day life, I wouldn’t say 1 in 5 men I see are Chads. Not even close. (I live in a semi wealthy American suburban area if that’s relevant.)
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:31 AM
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Sure thing…nice chatting with you
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 01:06 AM
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Red Pill is incredibly useful. When you understand women, their needs, behaviors, desires, etc you can be a much better man for her, and even create mini romance novel like experiences for her. And Red Pill is not misogynist, I just meant that an occasional misogynist will be on a thread. That’s a whole separate post about how overwhelming dating is for so many people …. But if you go on subs like r/onlinedating, r/bumble, r/dating, etc you can read all kinds of rants, stories, etc from both men…
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 12:39 AM
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Personally I think it’s much better to navigate dating, especially nowadays, with good knowledge of how things work. Extract the good stuff out of each pill. Most people are overwhelmed by modern dating. You’re very lucky “dating is just dating” to you. The problem with the pills is they’re turning into ideologies. Before Red Pill went semi mainstream, it was just this obscure study of female behavior and psychology. It was an attempt to see the truth. It was a discussion and debate. Now Red Pil…
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 12:12 AM
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I haven’t picked either per se. But if I did have to only learn of one, I’m with you, red pill hands down. I think Red Pills big flaw is it downplays how much looks matter…,although that might be purposely disingenuous, as many influencers don’t want to scare off half their potential audience. Red Pill also idiotically claims women hit a wall at 30, which is just ridiculous. Maybe at 40-45 without self care, but rarely 30 Black Pill goes to the other extreme and overplays looks. And it absolutel…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 09:29 PM
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It all started with the Red Pill. I used to be Badly blue pilled, and a simp, which contributed to my ex and I breaking up, as well as my addiction struggles. Red Pill made so much more sense, and incorporating it in healthy ways with women has given me great success. Women were so confusing prior to that, but I was always fascinated by them. I kept going deeper and deeper with Red Pill and eventually found black Pill. I thought it was nihilistic at first (and it is) but it’s still shockingly ac…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 08:17 PM
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I see what your point is. Keep in mind I’m on the winning side….I do great with women, so the Black Pill doesn’t make me personally feel bad at all. If anything it makes me feel lucky. I just feel bad for all the men who are suffering because of their genetics. I don’t subscribe to Black Pill to vent or to be nihilistic. I just have an autistic mind, and like many autists I enjoy trying to figure out reality (most neurotypicals prefer comforting lies.). And black pill seems closest to reality.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 07:36 PM
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I think your main argument here is this: 1 Even if the Black Pill is correct, it only makes people more unhappy. Therefore they shouldn’t dwell on it/ discuss it more. 2 Black Pill will reinforce negative mindsets, and exceptions exist. By subscribing to the black pill, they ensure they won’t become one of these exceptions. Is that what you’re saying? That’s perfectly reasonable to say. Just want to make sure I understand.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 07:24 PM
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I just used 20% as a guess. I don’t actually know what percent of women will date a short man nowadays, but I know it’s not many….20% was being generous, it’s actually probably less. Again you’re using exceptions and outliers to discredit a general trend. The fact that some short men can get a woman, doesn’t mean that most can. This is a logical fallacy, unfortunately I forget the name of the type….but basically using exceptions to discredit a general trend. The black pill may reinforce these me…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 07:06 PM
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Bro. most women won’t “accept men for their height.” They’ll punish them though. And yeah there are exceptions, some short/ ugly guys who do get a woman. But even if 20% of women will accept short men, that’s still not enough to go around for every short / ugly man. Some men will not find love in this modern social media society. I know that’s awful to hear, but reality is indifferent. A lot of women can’t find love either, but that’s because they are biologically incapable of settling with what…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 06:19 PM
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Me too bro. It’s awful. I don’t know what to do about it. Most solutions are pretty extreme and expensive. Leg lengthening for short guys, tons of surgery for ugly, moving to foreign countries, etc. Most people can’t even afford rent, let alone all that It’s why they discuss coping so much too.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:49 PM
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It does make it worse. Being delusional would be easier. But it’s hard to unsee reality once you do. “Be careful what you wish for.” If there’s one positive about it, it’s that they can at least have some sort of sense of community with each other. Shared suffering is easier than suffering alone
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:45 PM
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Yes it’s an online movement. But even people who never heard of it, but still acknowledge the overwhelming importance of looks, are “black pilled.” Yes another purpose would be great for them. But have you ever gone through severe depression? Just getting out of bed is often a struggle, let alone fighting for a better world. Without the basic spiritual needs of human touch and intimacy, our souls wither. Have you ever gone years without even a hug? With no hope of getting one in the future? Real…
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:37 PM
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How does that help Lonely men who are in deep spiritual pain? They’re just supposed to pretend to be happy? Video games, porn, Alcohol , etc only do so much for them.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:25 PM
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True, but what good is a great personality if you can’t get your foot in the door? And I can always “look good for my age” if I self care. Maybe when I’m old I’ll be miserable, IDK, but at least I can look back on a good life , and just read philosophy
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 03:12 PM
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I’m not a nihilist. Where did you get that? I still greatly enjoy life. I just know the reason I enjoy life so much is because I won the genetic lottery (looks wise….I lost the autism lottery.) But I’d rather be good looking and mildly autistic than ugly and neurotypical…..looks are that important.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 02:38 PM
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Why do I follow Black Pill? Because I prefer reality. I know the reason I attract women isn’t because of my “personality “ (mild-moderate Asperger’s and severe ADHD.) Plenty attractive people are black pilled too….they’re just not posting on here.
/r/AllPillDebate25/09/23 02:13 PM
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I thought GigaChad was top 0.1- 1% and Chad was top 2-5 %. There’s no clear definition
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 01:43 PM
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That’s a whole separate debate about matriarchy. Perhaps a nuanced, well thought out post for the future. There are pros and cons to it. Some of it lines up with the pros and cons of left wing and right wing politics. Sometimes societies need to shift left, sometimes they need to shift right..,.it depends on what stage they’re in, the social circumstances, etc. One thing I can say is civilization never would have come about without patriarchy, as well as socially enforced monogamy. Those were st…
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 02:11 PM
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Not sure how similar it is to America there. Or maybe it’s just your milieu/ area you live in. America is pathetically blue pill. So many of The “men” here (if you can even call them men, they’re more like boys) are so weak and emasculated. Women walk all over them.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 01:44 PM
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Exactly. Also consciously learning social cues that NT’s subconsciously/ instinctively pick up. It’s exhausting having to consciously process every social cue, but what other option do we have? At least the more you do it the better you get at it.
/r/AllPillDebate23/09/23 01:26 PM
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I tend to agree with that. Women should not have to be forced to marry men they don’t find attractive, or worse, they find repulsive. The only issue is that was absolutely necessary for civilization to at come about. So the question then is was all that suffering of women in the past worth it, so that we could experience civilization today? Or was that so heinous that we’d be better off as hunter gatherers still? (Keep in mind Even hunter gatherer’s regularly fought and women were raped by their…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 07:32 PM
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We meant the physically intense jobs like loading the trucks. That work is absolutely brutal. Of course there’s plenty cushy jobs at Amazon too
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:41 PM
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Interesting. Where are you from if you don’t mind me asking?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:22 PM
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Yes and no. As prosperity increased, and violence decreased, men became increasingly sympathetic to women’s complaints. So yeah those children allowed feminism to take off, you’re correct. But what lets it thrive today is all the single mother households raising weak boys and bitter, damaged girls - those two groups are highly likely to support and push feminism, often in its more extreme forms
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 03:00 PM
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Fair point. Increasingly as the Red Pill and Black Pill become more obvious (even if people never heard those terms) yes you could argue people are becoming more purple pill. Just ten years ago most people , including myself, were blue pill. I really believed that Disney Fantasy. It cost me an amazing woman and played a role in my struggle with addiction, followed by depression. I seeked answers and first found the Red Pill. It was painful but it mostly made sense (I don’t 100% agree with Red Pi…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 02:38 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean. How is this sub’s definition of the blue pill different than, Say a red pill sub’s definition of a blue pill? True blue pill is a bit of a subjective term. But overall it’s the basic Disney Fantasies: “There’s someone for everyone.” “Women will love you for your personality more than your looks” “Just be yourself” “Show her how much you care.” “Be emotionally available and open up to her.” “The nice guy will eventually come out ahead.” Etc. Is that not along the lines…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 02:09 PM
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While the black pill (and this sub) may have a disproportionate amount of NeuroDivergents, there’s still some NT BlackPillers. The RedPill seems mostly NT Most people are Blue Pill, they just don’t realize they’re Blue Pill, and so they don’t call it that
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:44 PM
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Lol yeah a job like that might push them over the limit. But most women get cushy corporate office jobs (if they’re educated) or retail/service jobs if uneducated. They’re not going to be forced into Amazon packaging centers. Eventually that will all be done by robots anyways, further making men disposable.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:31 PM
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Yeah technically they don’t always correlate. Most Betabuxx are blue pillers though. Red Pill would be too traumatizing to them…they’d dismiss it as “misogyny.” Knowing your wife doesn’t really love you, and still fantasizes about Chad is very very disturbing. Blue Pillers aren’t always Betabuxx. They either haven’t become Betabuxx yet, can’t become Betabuxx, or there’s the occasional Blue Pill Alpha.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:22 PM
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You’re underestimating how much women hate being forced to obey and procreate with unattractive men they don’t respect. Most women would rather work a soul crushing job. They still get some free time, they have their friends and pets, and they can at least occasionally bang Chad when he /she needs a quick nut.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:10 PM
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One side always suffers…either the women suffer being forced to marry, procreate and obey incels, or the incels suffer In loneliness. The only winners are genetically superior men, and the women who get those men. It’s the brutal reality. There is no fair solution. Nature is incredibly unfair. Ideally nature made humans such that there really was “someone for everyone “ as the Blue Pill Fairy Tale claims.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:07 PM
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It is a paradox, but it’s correct. Hunter gatherer society is different than civilization. Civilization required monogamy to properly take off. It motivated Men to work super hard, and reduced the inherent violence of men competing amongst each other. I can’t blame women for revolting against it. What woman wants to be forced into a marriage and sex with a man she’s repulsed by? Women’s aversion to bad genetics is much stronger than most men realize. Women love to be led by a strong, respectable…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:59 PM
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Ohh well welcome to Reddit, and r/AllPillDebate Reddit is great to talk about autism and mental health challenges. It’s anonymous, and easy to find others with similar struggles. Haha I hear ya on that “is this the real me?” Sometimes I’m shocked at some of the things I say on here too I mostly hide my Asperger’s IRL, but it’s stressful and exhausting, so Reddit is great to talk about it
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:35 AM
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That’s good to hear bro. Do you NTMaxx at all?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:23 AM
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Is the ugliness fixable? If it’s bad skin that can often be fixed. If you’re short that’s a death sentence. Severe deformities would require surgery. The other mental issues may significantly resolve once you’re able to get women I hold firm on this, incels spiritual pain is far more about the lack of touch and loneliness than the lack of sex. Many of their mental health problems would significantly improve, if not resolve, with regular touch and affection from women.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:23 AM
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Not to mention Betabuxx would be horrified to find out what their wife did with Chad, and won’t do with them
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:41 PM
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I see your point. But the blue pillers don’t even know the second kind of passion even exists.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:39 PM
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Blue pillers / Betabuxx think a lot of kissing and “I love you’s ” during sex is “passionate.” They have no idea how freaky, dirty, and self degrading women actually are when they’re consumed in passion. They couldn’t even handle finding out.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:33 PM
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Only black pillers and red pillers realize this..,, and just how bad it really is
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:24 PM
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Gotcha. I thought you meant autists as a whole
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:18 PM
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You can still be autistic but look good physically, have a handsome face, be tall, etc. Not sure why you’d think they’re mutually exclusive. Autists are stereotyped to be ugly, and yeah many are, but not all…. not to mention if you’re ugly you get less social interaction and female attention, which makes it even harder to develop your social skills
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:14 PM
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Yupp….saw one on FB who married a Betabuxx….he’d be horrified if he knew…esp while he’s getting his lame yearly starfish sex. Women are wildddd
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:05 PM
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If you’re physically attractive, and hide the autism, then you’re attractive…,at least temporarily And from there you can be emotionally stimulating
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 09:00 PM
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Edit: Comment removed. Described the unhygienic, depraved things women will do when consumed with passion for Chad
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 08:55 PM
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Eh I’m autistic, but attractive….so I do well with women. I come here because I enjoy the discussion, and mainly because ,well, I’m autistic. The Black Pill is real. I hate it. Women don’t love me for me. It’s a constant mind fuck. If I lose my looks, or my Spergy behavior gets too bad, even for a few moments, it’s over for me. Chad is NT…so I may look like Chad, but I’m not actually Chad.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 08:39 PM
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1 LooksMaxx 2 Overwhelm her emotionally 3 NTMaxx If you can pull off all 3, you’ll have a good chance
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 08:20 PM
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I have Asperger’s and do great with women. 3 things: 1 Be Super Attractive 2 Understand Women and how to give them overwhelming emotional stimulation 3 NTMaxx
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 08:17 PM
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What does .is mean?
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 06:36 PM
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OK well I appreciate the honesty and self-awareness you have. only reason I put it there is because when I make these posts, half the comments just try to claim I’m a pathetic incel, which adds nothing to the conversation.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 09:07 PM
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Why? I’m not allowed to care about the incels pain just because I’m not one? That does seem to be the case sometimes
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 07:08 PM
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You’re damn right they will. Because so few men even know what the ultimate female fantasy is, let alone how to fulfill it. I wouldn’t say Chad has to put no effort in though. He still needs to keep her in her feminine energy. However that’s a much more dignified, enjoyable “effort” vs having to buy her constant dinners and gifts, babysit her kids, etc. In other words much better to put effort into being her man than being her bitch
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 07:05 PM
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True, but men can find happiness and fulfillment in settling. Women rarely do. Especially if they had Chad(s) in the past. Just look how poorly women treat their Betabuxx husbands.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 06:45 PM
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💯 When dating coaches say “never validate her” they are only showing lame, surface level game. True you don’t want to simp and give unearned compliments, especially about beauty. Its also true you can occasionally get sex making a woman chase your validation. But it’s far from the best strategy. Better to get into her spirit, find out what she thinks make her so unique, acknowledge it, and validate her for it. This gets her obsessed
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 06:22 PM
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Yes that is very important, especially for children. Babies deprived of touch actually tend to grow up with mental health challenges and poor immune systems. But when your son is grown, he’s going to need more than just your touch. He will need a woman he can have romance, or at least lust, with.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:25 PM
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It’s not just that they’re not getting laid. They also don’t get touch and affection, which are basic human needs. Being deprived of human touch and affection has significant negative effects on the human spirit, and even our physical health.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:21 PM
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Well I’m here to learn, understand, educate, and debate. You have a good point it is educational to explain and discuss women’s sufferings (as well as men’s.) The only unreasonable thing was expecting incels to care, considering how poorly they get treated.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:19 PM
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It wasn’t just your comment. There were other comments too. And some of it was just my own self reflection. I was pretty high last night too, not exactly thinking totally straight lol
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:05 PM
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Exactly. And they are deprived of it. So they suffer greatly. And what do people do when they voice their suffering? They mock them. It’s disgusting. Incels could always get an escort. But that’s not going to fulfill them in the way they need.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:04 PM
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No the spiritual pain they experience. It’s not just about getting laid to them. They need touch and affection too. Going to do a future post on this.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:55 PM
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I understand. After reading these comments, I realized this post was not appropriate. Why should you care about women when they don’t care about you? Not only that, many ridicule you. Will delete soon. Thank You for contributing to the discussion.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:34 PM
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Hey man, I thought about this more and you’re right. Me pointing out how much women are suffering too, when they not only don’t care about you, but ridicule you, wasn’t exactly appropriate. And as you said, they get plenty sympathy. Will delete post soon.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:27 PM
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I’m well aware the world is more nuanced and continue to study the nuances. Generalizations are just generally most effective, particularly when it comes to dating. There are general things that most (not all) women respond to….and that gets me more than enough results. While your claim about the opioids is true, the idea that my logic would somehow claim that doesn’t make any sense. If I were studying opioid overdoses and why they happen I would look to as many factors as possible, then determi…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 12:53 PM
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I didn’t say “all.” Yes there’s exceptions. Exceptions are interesting to study, but they don’t discredit the general trend. NAWALT - yeah but most are
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 12:43 PM
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What’s wrong with making generalizations exactly? Because there’s leeway and a few exceptions somehow we should ignore the overall trends? I need models of human nature to navigate this world, and generalizations are most expedient because they generally work. Of course, I’m open to debate my generalizations, hence why I post here….but to say you can’t debate something because it’s a generalization makes no sense. Now as for Chad, you are at least making a counter argument….I don’t agree, but at…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 03:48 AM
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No I don’t because realistic is too boring for most people. Women especially just want to live a romantic fantasy.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:34 AM
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Women on forums about dating, particularly online dating. Also their online dating profiles sometimes even complain about it (a red flag indeed)
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:32 AM
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From all the complaints they constantly make about it.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:29 AM
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Nothing. My point is that women are deeply unhappy , often to the point of depression or at least anxiety, when they can’t get Chad’s commitment. Him having sex with her is not enough to make her feel fulfilled. It’s just a short term pleasure, which later causes disappointment and emotional trauma. She ultimately hopes that she is so special, he will see it, and choose her.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:27 AM
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Women claim they don’t want to share their man, and many claim they don’t want one night stands. Are those claims accurate in your opinion? Or are they just saying them for some other reason? (as women often do)
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:08 AM
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Interesting points. Why do they claim to care so much then? Is it their ego? Is it because they want the social status of locking down Chad? Or do they just pretend to? Or something else?
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 02:01 AM
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Fair Point
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:55 AM
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I was referring to getting a long term relationship with Chad. That’s what she ultimately desires. Chad’s affection and him seeing how special and unique she truly is (in her mind.)
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:48 AM
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I agree that’s messed up.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:46 AM
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True, but They’re still in deep spiritual pain. They just have more band aids and Tylenol. How much pity and coddling really helps anyways? Would you be happier if you were shown pity and coddled? I do empathize with the plight of incels. It’s why I come here, to better understand them. I’ve been through depression and addiction, and had periods of being a volcel. Its spiritually painful to not even be touched. But I don’t think you would want my pity….pity is patronizing. I do think you would l…
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:44 AM
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Actually I’m Chad with autism. I get plenty women. My experience mostly confirms the Black Pill. I’m not personally bitter about it, because I’m on the winning side. But I still find it shocking. I enjoy debating sexual dynamics. Your ad hominem attack is not only poor debate, but it is false
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:24 AM
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That’s a great point about how the social media posts of other women fawning over Chad plays a role too. Also yes you’re right, most do think they have that unique trait that will keep Chad. Chad can easily capitalize on this by discovering that unique trait, and making her feel special for it. I agree about the resentment they have with the Betabuxx. It’s part of the curse God put on Eve.
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 01:08 AM
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Based
/r/AllPillDebate19/09/23 12:21 AM
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He’s talking about in the West.
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 10:42 PM
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Logically driven as a woman? Are you autistic? (Not trying to be offensive, I’m mildly Aspergy too)
/r/AllPillDebate17/09/23 09:03 PM
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Those are good points and clarifications you added. I was considering mentioning that too, but the post was getting long. Also I’d add the less attractive, the more charisma he’s going to need to make up for it. What would you consider that threshold of attraction? A 6? (Based on looks alone)
/r/AllPillDebate15/09/23 08:42 PM
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Yes I see what you’re saying. My point is they genuinely thought they liked my “personality” (hence the above post.). But they never even really knew it. What they experienced was an attractive man taking a deep interest in her, which made her feel special and desired (in other words she felt great, and confused it / rationalized it as my personality.)
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:53 PM
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Exactly. Which means they didn’t like my personality after all. It was just my looks and communication skills
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 02:44 PM
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That’s a good point and I agree. I’ll add: My “personality” / “communication skills” would be viewed completely differently if I were ugly, despite being the same person. I’ve had women in the past who at first loved my “personality “ (really my communication skills combined with looks) end up later disliking my actual personality (who I am as a person.) I shall make a future post on what women really mean by “communication skills” / “conversation skills.”
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 01:11 PM
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I even think sex by a third date is soon, despite being a man who wants sex. I also realize in this dating market, I’ll come off weak if I don’t start at least trying for it by the third date. Ultimately I don’t even think most men want that either from their future wife. But they compartmentalize other women into “hookup” categories. Ultimately they end up throwing a potentially great future girlfriend/wife into that zone at times too, and they subconsciously realize that, and have cognitive di…
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 12:00 AM
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I often come off like a jerk on Reddit. I’m not though. It’s just my cold, harsh, logical analysis of reality that people find disturbing (probably related to my mild autism.) I wonder if being short / looks are more of an issue in the modern dating market. Most People have shorter attention spans today. They often don’t take time to get to know people they don’t instantly find attractive nowadays. They’re used to “swiping.” Also they know their bf/husband will be on their social media pages. Wa…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 11:35 PM
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That’s a great story, thank you for sharing. Glad to hear it worked out. Im not short, so I can’t directly relate to short guy struggles. It seems many, if not most of them really struggle, in this modern “dating market.” But maybe I just spend too much time on Reddit? I appreciate you pointing out flaws in my thesis in a polite manner.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 10:35 PM
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Well written. And great points about the just world fallacy and the links to agency. Thank You for contributing to the discussion.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:14 PM
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It’s surprisingly easy to generalize millions of people , whether it’s men, women, or humans in general. Yes it’s conjecture, but It’s a logical analysis. Feel free to poke holes in my argument, I’m open to debate and hearing where I’m wrong. I could speak of anecdotal experiences I’ve witnessed, but that’s not exactly “data.” And yes I could compile data and summarize it, but this was just my own logical analysis. Again I’m open to you pointing out weaknesses in my argument, counter points, etc…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:08 PM
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Yes I agree. Honestly I’d rather be autistic and attractive than NT and short/ugly. Short/ugly guys really suffer out here today. No matter how good their personality is
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:04 PM
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Well said. But generally autistic men greatly struggle with women. And I believe I would as well if I wasn’t attractive
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 09:00 PM
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This is more so what I refer to as “communication skills.” I think of my personality as something else. That’s more so my ability to make her feel heard and understood. She loves feeling heard and understood by an attractive man. Women rarely understand my personality at first. But I will concede that it is a fair argument to say my communication skills falls under my personality…..however it’s not my entire personality at all.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:52 PM
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Both, but mainly healthy long term relationships. I’m great at listening to women, reading her sub communications, understanding her, inspiring her, etc. True some girls like awkward, but majority don’t. Awkwardness in a woman is usually seen as cute by men as it symbolizes purity.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:41 PM
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How about a good counter argument instead? Anyone can post a silly meme….means nothing
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:37 PM
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True. Specifically women seem to be unable to appear superficial. Men have an easier time admitting it. Which is ironic, because men will also be more flexible in their standards/willing to lower their standards
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:35 PM
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I agree with that. But I’m not sure I have the greatest personality. I have mild - moderate Asperger’s and Severe ADHD. Yet I do great with women. I think it’s more likely my looks than my personality
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:33 PM
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Experience + logical analysis. Plain and simple. I have mild - moderate Asperger’s and severe ADHD. Yet I do great with women. Why? Because I’m very attractive. What’s so great about my personality? If anything I’m Spergy and awkward. How else could I explain my success with women, despite them claiming it’s mainly about “personality?” “Personality” is a rationalization, and I just logically explained how women arrive at it. And your refute is that because I’m not a woman I can’t understand them…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 08:31 PM
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I was a volcel for most of my battle with depression. I remember when I finally hugged a woman again for the first time in so long it felt like heaven. In some ways it was even better than sex when you’re that “touch starved.” I can’t imagine the pain incels have to experience daily from chronic touch starvation.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 11:07 PM
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You have a valid point, and legitimate grievance. Sorry to hear that. You don’t sound like you deserve it. I hope you can find something to help you. Or a good man who is ok with it. I’m sure there are plenty men who would be ok with it, but it’s also a matter of if you’d be attracted to them.
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 09:29 PM
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Nice Skin in incredibly important. A woman with dry rough skin is not pleasant to touch. Weight being equal, I’d take an average looking woman with soft skin over a beautiful women with rough skin. Most women have soft skin, so we tend to take it for granted. If you’ve ever dated a woman and when you touched her arm or whatever and it was rough and dry you know what I’m talking about. Edit: Men should be taking care of their skin too
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:25 PM
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What if they have good looks but autistic?
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/23 02:02 AM
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I thought it was pretty funny….especially cuz it came from a woman
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 01:22 PM
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Meh it’s only cute after she gets emotionally attached. Source: I’m an attractive autist. If I act spergy on a first date it’s over. But later on she’ll tolerate it, even adore it, in moderation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 09:22 PM
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What are you doing for your looks maxxing btw? There’s so much that can be done it’s almost overwhelming at first.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 05:14 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. That’s great your looksmaxxing, keep it up brother! Weight loss/Fitness is hopefully your primary concern now. fat can be lost, and muscles built
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 02:55 AM
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Yes I’m tall, white, have a jaw line, etc. Some mild receding would be my flaw, but the right hair cut makes it look fine. It’s both. Women do approach me. If I’m not expecting it, I’ll sometimes “sperg out,” and fuck it up. When I feel this occurring, I try to excuse myself, and then re establish later. Also a woman’s approach is much more indirect than a man’s. She usually introduces herself warmly under the guise of friendliness or professionalism. She will start acting super feminine, especi…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 01:24 AM
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Can def confirm the Attractive + Mildly Autistic, as it describes me. Learning social skills and what women really like in men , I’ve had an overall good experience with women. But if I’m having a super spergy day/moment, and it’s only the first or second date, that girls gone. Once they’re attached though, they’ll forgive an occasional bad day/ moment
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:40 PM
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What’s an inkwell?
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 02:24 PM
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They do show the worst examples. There’s plenty unattractive men at my work place, the women don’t treat them that terribly. Of course they need to “know their role.” I’m attractive, but autistic. As such, I get treated well by women despite my autism. There’s also an ugly guy with autism. He doesn’t get much attention from the women besides a cordial hello, and an occasional semi sincere ‘thank you’ for his hard efforts. But women are not rude or mean to him.
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 09:07 PM
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Those days will eventually come back. We’re at the peak of a prosperity cycle now. Prosperity makes most people feel entitled, yet complacent and weak. Society tends to become more matriarchal during periods of prosperity. Eventually the prosperity collapses on itself, and chaos ensues. Women will instinctively look to men to restore order. The strongest and most intelligent ones will step up. There’s that “toxic patriarchy” again. This cycle repeats throughout history. The bad news / black pill…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 08:56 PM
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And Desire comes from Dopamine. It’s all about your dopamine. Enough dopamine and you’ll be moving mountains.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/23 04:43 PM
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Interesting I never even heard of that here in America. What country is that in?
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 02:23 PM
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What the heck is a host cafe?
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 07:11 PM
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If you had to guess what percentage of women would you say don’t use dating apps at all? I’ve actually heard of quite a few women who don’t use them, mainly because they think it’s unsafe. It’s hard to say how many though. And obviously it varies significantly by demographic. But if you had to make a non scientific guess overall what would you say?
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 09:18 PM
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This is so interesting, I’m surprised it’s not talked about More in this space. I do think your point has merit and will pay more attention. I’m going to start dating again soon, so it’s good timing to experiment. Do you think even “sub fives” could do well with darker skinned women? Even in places like America and Canada? I’ve had a lot of success with women of all races, but I never realized most would be so eager to date a white man. I’m considered very physically attractive, so I always thou…
/r/AllPillDebate23/06/23 10:56 PM
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You really think darker skinned women are that much more attracted to white men? Where did you come up with that if I may ask? If it’s something you observed what country are you from? It’s an interesting theory. I do remember women from certain Hispaniola island(s) (I forgot which ones) are attracted to “the blue eyed man,” (there’s a special term for it), thinking he attracted good spirits, wealth, and could word off bad voodoo. Some black women seem to have little to no interest in white men …
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 11:54 PM
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High Testosterone will help you get more dates. Women are biologically attracted to men with high testosterone. They can sense it (“female intuition.”). You will have a more masculine demeanor and aura. More confident too. Try improving your diet, lifestyle, etc before going as extreme as TRT. Cistanche and Tongkat Ali are somewhat helpful supplements but DYOR. Also Vitamin D and K, zinc, boron, etc Taking risks will also boost your testosterone. I’ve had terribly low testosterone before, I have…
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 11:32 PM
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What’s the “dog pill”? (See recent post by mods updating rules)
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 01:50 PM
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Both agree and disagree. I’m mildly Aspergy, but very physically attractive. I get plenty women flirting, sending signals, etc. However, I regularly f*ck things up, especially up on my bad days. However, if I’m having a good day I can usually do pretty well with women. The problem is having 2-4 good days in a row. Which requires good timing….a challenge but often doable. But since I have a fairly easy time meeting women, it’s also like I’ve come to accept that my Spergy behavior will mess things…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 02:45 PM
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Lmao, I’m 5’11, but mildly Aspergy. I do pretty good with women, but my spergy behavior has definitely screwed up ALOT of otherwise slam dunks. But still I’d rather be mildly autistic than short. Not saying this to be rude at all, I genuinely feel the pain of short guys, and think it really sucks. A Sperg
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 12:29 AM
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Cool thanks for sharing man. I’ll give the audiobook a try, see what I can pick up from it. Yeah I do agree we can often just sense the tension and attraction, but we’re socialized to doubt it. Our ancestors would’ve just gone for it. We disgrace them Every time we don’t
/r/TheRedPill17/04/22 07:53 PM
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Illimitable Men has been so interesting, nuanced, and deep. Pook seemed a bit boring and basic in comparison. Should I try it again though? What’s the benefits of reading Pook after IM?
/r/TheRedPill17/04/22 04:27 PM
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