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They can be, but it’s not a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 10:13 PM
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That would assume that political beliefs are genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 07:52 PM
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I was blonde over the spring and summer. It was an uphill battle to get it to not feel like straw. I went back to my natural brunette over the fall and my hair is already feeling so much stronger and softer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 05:07 AM
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But in the end, it’s all subjective reporting. Ask just about any nurse their opinion of the pain scale: most people are full of shit. I think just about all of us can cherry pick some sociological study to confirm our biases. The way I see it, these studies offer interesting talking and philosophical points, but ultimately prove nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 11:12 PM
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I would love to hear your stories and pick your brain about the things you’ve seen. I live in (as much as it can be) a similar scene in the Midwest. Over the past three years or so I started to grow up. I ditched the punk kid look, starting working out, and adopted a more traditionally acceptable look among that demographic. I was so naive to the “sexual market” among UMC and above mainstream people. I found myself being propositioned by some prominent and powerful, very married “good family men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:11 PM
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Very good point. Marriage is becoming a class marker in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 10:00 PM
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I assume you meant “why would a 20 year old need a 40 or 50 year old parent?” I personally did not stop talking to my parents after high school. I enjoy the fact that I did not have to attend their funerals in my 20s or (so far so good) my 30s, and hopefully won’t in my 40s even. My parents are some of my best friends now. My in-laws are even younger. They’re in their 50s and (both sets of grandparents) are very active in their grandchildren’s lives. My husband was 29 when our younger child was …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:52 PM
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Carrie Fisher was also an alcoholic and a coke/opioid addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:28 PM
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You said at 30 guys know their sperm is good for another 20 years. If a man is 50 when he has a child, he’ll be close to 70 when that kid is graduating high school. And I asked “who wants their 70 year old dad showing up to their high school?” You said “those same desperate 30 year old used up chicks.....” Huh? 30 year old women don’t want their dad showing up at their high school? I really hope English isn’t your first language because that’s the only excuse for the clusterfuck you just typed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 06:35 PM
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I didn’t see that thread. Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:11 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:09 PM
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Who wants their 70 year old dad showing up to their high school?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 09:09 PM
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If you’re American, walk into your local Walmart and tell me ugly people cant get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 03:55 PM
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Some weird ass men do. Some men will also spend huge sums of money on prostitutes who have slept with hundreds of men. So what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 02:26 AM
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Nonsense. Most of the "it's your fault" is just passive aggressive digs at women: "it's your fault you didn't realize women are horrible." It's like people who apologize by saying "I'm sorry you got upset."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:49 AM
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Yes, much projection. In all seriousness, the faults you find in others typically are projections of your own insecurities. But let me make it clear that providing constructive criticism is not included in that. However whenever you're just being hateful, which is what you're doing, that's a reflection of your own insecurity because if you can paint half of the human population as being degenerate, that makes your own faults not seem so bad in comparison, huh? Why do you feel mediocre, /u/_Neon_…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:40 AM
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And yet if boys all of a sudden started outperforming girls in school I bet you'd suddenly use that as proof of male intellectual superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:21 PM
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Project harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:19 PM
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Go watch road rage videos. It’s typically not women chasing a stranger with a baseball bat because that stranger cut them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:41 AM
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What I think of when RPers talk about their much younger girlfriends: 40 year old man and his 25 year old girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 01:57 PM
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Human sexuality is not strictly driven by being attracted to the most biologically fit person for reproduction you can possibly manage to have sex with. If this were the case homosexuality would not be a thing. STDs in nursing homes would not be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:21 AM
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Divorced men tend to be better off financially compared to divorced women, and alimony isn’t nearly as common as your average manospherian thinks it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:49 AM
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So basically the comment about STEM: so why are MRA freaking about about the fact that there are more female college grads these days and that young women make more than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:47 AM
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Yet it’s not women shooting up places because their fee fees were hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 12:26 AM
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What argument do you have? You threw out an ad hominem and straw man that wasn’t even accurate, and you’re trying to make me seem like the emotional, unreasonable one for pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:47 AM
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Probably nothing. Sex is an important part of a relationship and if he were to want to jump ship, I’d get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:16 PM
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Yes, again my response is that you are so blinded by your ideology that you can’t comprehend that people’s arguments aren’t either feminist or manosphere. It’s the height of simplistic thought processing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:07 PM
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I’m not even a feminist, and certainly don’t believe homemakers should be financially compensated for their work. You’re so defensive that you see the axe you’re trying to grind everywhere. It’s lazy and petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:25 PM
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Of course people are free to chose what they want. Stop being pendantic. The point is that people don’t make life choices in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:42 AM
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Just 40 years ago med schools were overwhelmingly male. Now over 50% are female. To say “people are free to pick which skills they which to acquire” ignores a lot of factors about why people make the choices they do, and yes, gender is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:21 AM
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The role of women in industrial/aggregate societies was more or less a supportive role, henceforth less value was placed on the role, and therefore women were oppressed and seen as lesser than men. The men’s right movement is a direct result of men feeling the pressure of less emphasis being placed on traditionally male roles in the digital age. This notion that women deserve to be paid for raising their own children and taking care of their families and homes is really outlandish. Men perform p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:10 AM
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You know what’s funny I actually wrote that with the decreasing wages of physical labor traditionally dominated by males, and the increasing presence of women in universities and higher paying white collar jobs in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:05 AM
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Equal to me means “of equal value,” not identical. There are things men tend to excel at compared to women, and things women tend to excel at compared to men. It seems gender-based oppression really only sets in when the economic paradigm values one gendered set of skills over another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 08:00 PM
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Slutty daughter. She’s not hurting anyone. Incels either blame their plight on other people, or if they don’t and they blame themselves, they refuse to take action to better themselves and relegate their destiny to hopelessness. I loathe laziness and refusal to take responsibility for your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:49 PM
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Having sex with a drunk person is not inherently considered rape. That person has to be so inebriated, like unable to walk or communicate a coherent thought, that they are too incapacitated to say no. It’s not illegal to be drunk, passed out on your couch or bed or bathroom floor. For sex to not be considered rape, it requires consent. If someone is too inebriated to consent to sex, and you have sex with them, you have raped them. This is about another party’s actions against an innocent, albeit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:46 PM
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Well first of all, Mike Pence avoids women because he finds vaginas yucky (he’s closeted gay). But this reaction is an extremist, attention getting tantrum simply set forth to attack a political/social movement. It’s no different than feminists saying avoid men at all costs so they don’t rape you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:29 PM
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Extreme example. Most women do not want to involve themselves with a serial killers/cult leaders who inspire others to commit murder in their behalf. But with that being said, I read something once that resonated with me. Maybe it was here, I don’t remember. But the extreme version of masculinity is sociopathy/psychopathy: these individual are often charming, charismatic, confident, and driven. So it’s not hard to imagine how some women fall for these men. On the other hand, bipolarity is an ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 07:24 PM
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Because those things usually have to do with feminine interests: relationships, love, and whatnot. When men buy into nonsense we call them conspiracy theorists and/or men of faith, so think about that all you replying with “herr derr because womens are dumb.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 09:46 PM
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I’m short and thin, and wear my hair at about my chin, so it’s very “cutesy,” but my hair has been as long as my armpits. The amount of male attention hasn’t really changed from length to length, but the type of male attention does. Older men, particularly white collar ones, and artsy, alternative type guys dig the shorter hair, whereas the longer hair attracts more frat bro and good ol’ boy types.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 11:50 PM
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Women will be mocked no matter what they choose because women are by and large still not seen as individuals but rather as aggregates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:44 PM
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No one bats an eye? I think a woman who would put that on a dating profile is trashy and uncouth, same with a man who would put something about weight on his profile. Does anyone remember those “No Fat Chicks” shirts guys used to wear maybe 10 years ago? It’s not as socially unacceptable to bag on fat women as you think, it’s just that you’re not a fat woman, so you don’t notice as much when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 04:26 PM
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My husband and I agreed upon these choices. It was a mutual decision that we both agreed upon, not some surprise arrangement he found himself flung into with no heads up. He isn’t holding up his end of the bargain. So excuse it however you want: your male brain just isn’t wired to schedule a dentist appointment or whatever. It’s still just an excuse for ignoring an agreement you made with your partner, and that’s shitty. And I wouldn’t blame toxic masculinity. Quite the opposite, really. More li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 09:43 PM
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He agrees that he’s lazy when it comes to domestic things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:44 PM
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Take this bratty, entitled little prince attitude to your wife and see how well it works. Marriages are about compromises, and if you think you’re above doing something that affects both of us because it’s “woman’s work,” have fun signing your divorce papers. I’m thankful that my husband at least doesn’t have your attitude. He’s just lazy when he’s not at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:42 PM
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Not looking with an eye toward splitting up, but I think it’s downright foolish to not make sure all your bases are covered in.case something were to happen, which is I why I believe that educated Millennial women tend to not completely leave the workforce when they have kids. I worked damned hard to make sure I will always have options so I’m not that woman taking half of her husband’s money in the worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:58 AM
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Neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:53 AM
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You’re probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:56 PM
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I make as much as he does. He technically doesn’t have to work either, yet I am the one who is “complaining” because I expect child rearing and domestic duties to be split pretty evenly?And BTW, our work arrangement is something we agreed upon. And I don’t work to “keep up with the Joneses.” You assumed that. I work to get us out of debt. Our student loans are ridiculous and not having to live paycheck to paycheck to get out of that debt is nice. I also work because I’ve been a stay at home mom.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:39 PM
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Oh believe me, I did. He used to not lift a finger around the house or with the kids. My pregnant ass was mowing the lawn and scooping the cats’ litter box (pregnant women aren’t supposed to handle cat shit) after working a night shift while he shot teenagers online. I kicked his ass out for several weeks. He came back and has been better, but there is still a lot of room for improvement. And this is why I have to laugh when RP tells women to marry when they’re young. What I was attracted to at …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:14 PM
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To be fair I did add that after I initially posted this. to clarify. What did that deleted comment say? Let me guess: a red piller letting me know what a massive cunt I am, one who is just fucking up as a woman, mother, and a wife left and right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:56 PM
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He works a regular 8-5 M-F (IT sector) with at least one to two days working from home. There is no justice I can serve to this situation in just a couple of paragraphs here. It has been a massive point of contention in our marriage. He is a lot better than he used to be. He used to leave everything, child wise and domestic duties, up to me, even when I was working full time and he was in between jobs. I basically told him I was done, and he got that I was dead serious. He now leaves about 70% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:54 PM
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I’m married with two children under the age of 10. I’m unhappy that I’m expected to be everything to everyone: I have a career. I’m a night shift nurse. But even though I work full time, I’m still expected to be the main caregiver. There are some things I wish my husband would step up more on: helping the kids with their homework, scheduling dentist appointments, making sure they’ve brushed their teeth before bed. This all still ends up falling almost entirely on me and it’s overwhelming. I do c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:14 PM
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I would dump a man’s ass for refusing to cook. How childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:45 PM
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What girl wouldn’t consider herself lucky to be with such a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 04:03 AM
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Forty is too old to being hanging out with anyone under 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 05:52 PM
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I think it also has to do with the fact that most young women are repulsed by much older men. When I was 18 my best friend dated a 42 year old. Myself and my other friends wouldn’t let her bring him around because we found him gross and pathetic. And out of all my friends, guess who was the bipolar one who was sexually abused by her father as a child? Also, the only older men who hit on me were lower middle class to lower class men, and a handful of creepy, single upper middle class skeeves. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 11:11 AM
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DiCaprio is a pimp. Literally. His young model girlfriends are business arrangements (paid beards) that he and his crew pimp to their billionaire friends, and in turn she gets fame and a career. Look up “yachting.” His partner is Lukas Haas. This is one of those poorly kept Hollywood secrets like John Travolta’s sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:57 AM
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Stop projecting your shitty personality onto other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 02:38 AM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 03:25 AM
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Where are all these early 20 chicks just itching to get married and knocked up by a guy 10 years their senior? If that’s how our society works, where are all they? Should be knocking down your door if you have so much to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 02:05 AM
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You just keep thinking that, buddy. Let me know how that philosophy works out for ya in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 02:00 AM
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Yeah, 32 is still not middle aged. Middle aged is 40-60. But anyway, I’d consider any young woman getting seriously involved with a guy your age, a guy who hasn’t had any successful long term relationships, to be a sucker. Let’s face it: if you’re 32 and single, kids or not, you probably have some baggage, so don’t be so quick to snub your nose at single moms your age as damaged goods. Not saying you should date them. That’s fine if you don’t want to be involved in a blended family, but let’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:49 AM
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Early 30s are not middle aged, and trust me, most men in their 30s, whether they have kids or not (unless they are vehemently childfree, and most are not) have zero qualms with getting with a mom so long as she’s still hot. Shit, even the fat and gross ones typically don’t have that much of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:39 AM
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No, he’s her age. He’s 10 years your (the guy in the scenario) middle aged ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:37 AM
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And then when she’s 32, the rugrats are in school full time, she wants to work full time, and you’re well into your 40s, and no matter how hard you try, it’s just obvious. She’s over the “raising rugrats and looking for a guy to support that” phase of her life. She’ll nope the fuck out of there, get with a dude 10 years your junior. And you’re divorced, paying child support, bitter, bitching back on TRP. You eventually get tired of the crippling loneliness and become a sex tourist and Southeast …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:34 AM
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For you, probably not, because you’ll always be hung up on her past. For guys who share her values, yeah, she already is a good partner. My best friend is has slept with probably close to 100 men and probably half as many women. She is in a relationship with a man who has just as high, if not a higher partner count than her. They’re always having threesomes and shit. It ultimately boils down to values, and people who don’t share your values don’t need “saving.” Mind your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:30 PM
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Yes, but considering I’m in my early 30s with kids myself. I would actually prefer to date someone in the same boat as me. If I were younger and without kids, then no, I would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:44 AM
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I have kids, but if I ever divorce I would highly expect to be, really even want to be in a relationship with someone who also has kids. All these single, childless guys like “omg single moms” and it’s like you wouldn’t even really on my radar, buddy. Give me the hot 40 year old single dad. That’s who I’d be gunning for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 06:47 PM
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What a petty, little passive aggressive backhanded compliment. You could go toe to toe with some Real Housewives. I only dream to be that petty of a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 05:35 PM
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I love how coal mining is always the go to “see how oppressed men are?!?!?!” examples. Cashiers are four times more likely to die on the job than coal miners in the US. Hell, being a high school student in the US is more deadly than being a coal miner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 05:31 PM
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And welcome to women’s frustration (in marriage in particular) with men. My marriage nearly ended because my husband left most of the mundane, boring, everyday unkeep of life to fall to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 05:18 PM
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Refuse to take responsibility for anything: everything is always someone else’s fault. There always an excuse as to why you didn’t do something you were supposed to do. But then again I hate when women do this too, I guess I just notice it more with men because the epidemic of manchild syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 04:29 PM
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So is the only thing that changed about you before you became “successful with women” (whatever that means), is that you simply started thinking thy were terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:18 PM
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If they want a quality one they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:15 PM
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I believe that for a lot of people, and I couldn’t give you an exact number, but I believe that yes it is. Human sexuality adapts to the wider culture, and I think the culture in which we live now is not very conducive to monogamy, long term at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:14 PM
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Women aren’t terrible, you just have no perspective, you project, and you’re probably a bit of a whiny word that rhymes with witch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 07:04 PM
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Good for you for not caring about societal norms, Most people do, and most people base their behavior on that. Find someone who rejects societal norms, and/or gain some perspective and realize that most people are just trying their best to function within a system. It has nothing to do with entitlement or childishness. That’s your own personal projection onto them (which to me is the very definition of childish and entitled: not being able to evaluate the world beyond your own little universe).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:53 PM
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And why do you think they lie about it? Because the social repercussions of promiscuity are a lot more steep for them than men. They are behaving in a way to preserve social status. That is not childish or entitled, it’s smart. People rarely behave out of a vacuum (which is what RPers constantly project onto women). As TRP says, stop judging women’s behavior from a man’s perspective as you would judge a man. Women aren’t men, and have entirely different motivations for their behaviors that serve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:40 PM
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Yeah, they’re usually batshit insane and sabotage every relationship they have. That’s why I have zero sympathy for Incels or your average RPer anyway: no one wants a relationship with you because you suck, not because one entire gender sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:32 PM
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It’s still kind of funny to me that there are men out there who are shocked, shocked I tell ya, that women are capable of being just as horny, just as lecherous, and just an unfaithful as men can. Yet how many women do you see throwing serious “I hate men” tantrums to the extent that MGTOWs and Incels do? Oh noes, girls with boyfriends still fuck around so fuck all women they’re nothing but moral degenerates? Well I got news for y’all: married men don’t behave much better. My favorite was when d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:16 PM
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Maybe you should stop being a whiny little baby. Seriously, I’m not saying that to insult you, but this whole tantrum over finding out that women aren’t perfect creatures, that unless they’re your mama, you’re going to have to put in continuous work for their love and affection (the same women have to do for men) it really, really grating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:36 AM
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The women who blew you off to sleep with frat boys end up marrying frat boys. That’s their social circle. People generally keep to their own social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 05:55 AM
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Oh yeah, I certainly care about looks, but a a guy I’d rate 6/10 in the looks department can up his rating to an 8/10 with personality. A guy I’d rate 8/10 looks wise can drop to to a 7/10 or 6/10 with some (not crazy deal breakers like being a criminal) shitty personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 06:22 PM
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As a married woman I can tell you that there are plenty of men who are not deterred by a ring on a woman's finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:35 PM
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Not even in the church, but in neighborhoods, too. A lot of young people are renters so they move place to place quite often, and never get to really know their neighbors. People also move jobs a lot these days, so your work family is always changing, too. I’ve worked at my job for four years and there are very few people who have been there as long or longer than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 07:34 PM
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You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 07:28 PM
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Mics are for singing, not for swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:51 PM
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I feel like such a dirty old cougar but fucking Shawn Mendes. Dayum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:44 PM
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You know Anthony Boirdain is fucking fire in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:42 PM
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G Eazy is physically attractive, but his personality says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:41 PM
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A gal after my own heart. I was convinced Joel and I were meant to be when I was 17. Christopher Waltz is old enough to be my dad, but damn he’s one sexy old man. And Bill Skarsgard, I can’t explain it, but there is something about that bugged eyed MFer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 10:39 PM
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Yes, when people have another option rather than have a bunch of fucking kids, they’ll choose not having a bunch of kids. I have two ankle biters myself. I love them to death, but life would be soooooo much easier and wealthier without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 02:47 AM
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Can you give examples of the first one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:43 PM
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All my friends who hooked up with/dated significantly older men when they were very young (under 25) were all bipolar with strained relationships with their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:31 AM
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I know a few women who married for money/stability in their 20s to guys 8-12 years older than them. Now that they’re in their early to mid 30s, and hubs is chugging along in their 40s, with the middle aged spread and thinning hair to boot, and guys their own age aren’t broke party frat boys anymore, hubs isn’t so attractive. I’ve seen a few of these marriages dissolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:26 AM
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Most men don’t seek custody after divorce, and most divorced couples with children set up their own childcare agreements without court intervention. If my children were being kept from me, I’d walk through fire and spend every last penny I had to ensure I am a part of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 06:09 PM
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Divorce =/= absent father, so pick another excuse. But please, continue on elaborating on exactly what I said, that men abandoning their children is somehow women’s fault (she should have chosen someone better to sleep with!)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 01:41 PM
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The superior child rearing model is several close people (typically aunts, uncles, siblings, grandparents) pitching in to raise a kid. Humans evolved to live in such societies. Post-partum depression is largely the result of isolating a new mother with just her children for most of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:25 AM
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I love how men abandoning their families is somehow women’s and feminists’ fault. Never underestimate a man’s ability to blame a woman for his mistakes. I think that’s a Rihanna quote. “Some people say that there’s a woman to blame but I know it’s my own damn fault.” Take a page out of Jimmy Buffett’s book.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 12:14 AM
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I myself am very fit, so no. As for very wealthy, a lot of guys who are very wealthy do not live lives that are conducive to monogamy, so it’s not necessarily that I think he could do better, but that he will do whatever just because he can (for examples he travels a lot).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:51 PM
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Yes, the “I just stopped that guy dead in his tracks” feeling is pretty validating and powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:32 PM
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Athletic man with an average income. I make more than enough money to take care of my own financial needs. As long as his income compliments mine, rather than me fronting the bill for everything, I’m cool. But keep in mind I’m very athletic myself. Fitness is a huge component of my life so a man who does not prioritize that probably is not going to have a lot in common with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 11:29 PM
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I’m really fucking bad at flirting, so when my sexuality gets me attention, it rarely, if ever, was intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:36 PM
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Interesting. Are men who suffer from mental illness incapable of dealing with stress and competition of modern societies?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:17 PM
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My hypothesis is that it has to do with men compartmentalizing better than women (as opposed to women’s strengths in multitasking). Anxiety is when you are living in the future, constantly dreading and anticipating what is next. Men might be living in the moment more than women because they’re just focused on the one here and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:15 PM
3

Defensive platitude after defensive platitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:39 PM
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I’m sorry for misinterpreting your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:14 PM
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I wrote that everyone complains about the dating market. You responded with “Men mostly complain online. That’s the difference.” I responded with both groups are complaining to their supports groups, they (the venue of their support groups) just manifest differently. How was your counter to “everyone complains about the dating market” with “Men mostly complain (anonymously) online” not a value judgement on the venue of the complaints? You clearly were not just highlighting the different venues i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:00 PM
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Once again, no actual argument, just the same smart ass platitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:45 PM
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You are literally singing the virtues of bitching about dating anonymously versus bitching amongst friends in person in this very comment . Also, whenever a woman challenges what you have to say it does not mean her panties are in a bunch or that she has something”with her.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:41 PM
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Coming up with an actual counterpoint to someone calling out your bullshit is hard, isn’t it? So again, I will pose my oh-so-emotional and ball busting, militant feminist argument to you again: why is it when women share their anecdotes they can be dismissed as being solipsistic females, but you don’t dismiss the anecdotal arguments of male commenters by attributing them to inferior modes of thinking pathological to their sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:38 PM
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Angry? Oh please highlight anything that could be interpreted as pure, visceral anger in anything I wrote. Anyway, once again, very lazy to accuse your opponent of being emotional and dismissing their argument and never actually addressing anything they say. You just dismiss because you think you have the moral upper hand just by virtue of being male. I called out your hypocrisy on dismissing any woman who shares anecdotal experiences as “female solipsism,” and your refusal to acknowledge the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:30 PM
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I figured you wouldn’t actually have an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:16 PM
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Because Reddit is the only place where men bitch about the dating market? Reddit is the only place where TRP and its tennants are discussed? And the example I specifically used was Twitter. And even if Reddit were the only place men bitched about dating, why does that make it any better, more noble of an outlet than women bitching about dating person to person with their friends? Both groups are venting amongst their support systems, which are just different manifestations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:13 PM
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Who does it more is irrelevant to the conversation. Some female commenters shared their anecdotes about things they observe about the female experience and you dismiss it as “female solipsism.” Male commenters share their anecdotes about the things they observe (about the female experience, nonetheless) and somehow this is different and is certainly not a testament to the objectivity, quality, and validity of their observations. That’s some lazy ass bullshit to dismiss the viewpoint of women wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:06 PM
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How is online not “in public?” How is a man bitching about dating on Twitter different than a woman bitching about dating among friends at brunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:02 PM
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When women do it, it’s female solipsism. When men do it, it’s superior male logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:45 PM
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Who doesn’t complain about the dating market? TRP is one giant bitch fest about the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:44 PM
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And all these guys insisting that single 30 year old women secretly weep in their cars aren’t examples of “male solipsism?” Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:09 PM
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Stop your whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 08:13 PM
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Stop being so dramatic. I don’t personally believe men who utilize sex toys are low quality losers, not did I ever say as much. You do you, boo. But there certainly is a stigma around it, isn’t there, hence why you mad this post. You think the reason why the women who do stigmatize it do so because they’re threatened by it, but I can assure the men who do use toys aren’t even on these women’s sexual radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:55 PM
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But these men are seen as low quality losers because they can’t get sex. They don’t have game. Women aren’t threatened by these types of men’s sexuality, they’re disgusted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:52 AM
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So if a woman initiated a divorce because her husband was cheating on her, women are the untrustworthy ones? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 11:42 PM
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Whoops sorry, that should have read “I wouldn’t trust a man...” I edited it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 09:03 PM
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For me it is. I wouldn’t trust a man who has slept with a lot of women to be able to remain faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:08 PM
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The 23 year old. More peers (because most people do date within just a few years of their own age) that are single and don't have deal breaking baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 08:41 PM
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I love how you’re the defensive and emotional one with no self awareness, telling others to “calm down.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 09:46 PM
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Don’t tell me I don’t understand. A government’s inability to intervene is a sign a country is turning into a shithole. I’d rather live in an impoverished area of London or New York than an impoverished area of São Paulo or Johannesburg.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 09:39 PM
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I’d rather live in a nanny state than a third world shithole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 07:52 PM
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I’m in my early 30s. All the women my age who married men 10+ years older than them when they were younger seem to be getting antsy now that a lot of their husbands are getting fat, bald, and old looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 08:02 PM
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Short hair is far more higher maintenance than long hair. You have to frequently get it cut to maintain the look, you usually can’t throw it up in an updo on a lazy day, you always have to style it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:04 PM
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I have kids. I’m in my 30s. If I found myself single I would pretty much expect to date fellow divorcees with kids. I think it’s important to state your demographic before we make the conclusion that single parents are undesirable partners. Of course some 22 year old single guy who may or may not want kids in the future, who is travel and heavily career minded wouldn’t want to date someone with kids. That would be a disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 08:47 PM
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Humans evolved to live in communal societies where everyone has jobs they do, and everyone helps with the kids. An able bodied young woman was not just relegated to caring for young children, but she wasn’t kept from her children 40 hours a week, either. I’ve been a full time stay at home mom and a full time working mom, and they both suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 01:44 AM
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That’s a rather odd conclusion you’ve come to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:51 AM
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Yet research shows that providing comprehensive sexual education, free to low cost access to birth control, along with having an educated female population, reduces the number of children being born into poverty, reduces the number of unwanted children being born, and reduces the number of children being born in general. Austerity doesn’t deincentivize anything, it just increases the number of people living in poverty, and impoverished people, regardless the state of their country’s social safet…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:41 PM
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Your system would just produce Mumbai, São Paulo, Johannesburg level poverty. Those kids aren’t going to all conveniently starve to death for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:30 PM
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Why are single women having children they can’t afford? Shitty sexual education and difficult access to affordable, reliable birth control for these women. Asking them to not have sex is laughably unrealistic. Why does the state have to pay for them? So you don’t have roving gangs of poor and hungry kids mugging your bougie ass anytime you step out of your compound.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:26 PM
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And do you understand why such a system will never become a reality? Most people don’t want droves of roving hungry and homeless kids on the streets for both ethical and social reasons “it’s your dumb slut mom’s fault” is an unbelievably short sided policy that is based on nothing but spite and autistic level is understanding of how human societies work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 04:21 PM
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When I was 16 I went out to TGI Friday’s with my friends for my birthday. There was a man, probably well into his 40s. He kept shouting overtly sexual and just downright embarrassing things at us “When you girls going to come over here so I can take you home and get you topless in my hot tub?” He was drunk, but I never felt physically threatened by him. According to this, I’m unwarranted in calling him a creep. Man hating bitch I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 04:51 AM
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“It’s true because I know a lot of women, therefore my perception of their experiences is correct” is literally your argument here. You made the claim, so the onus is on you to demonstrate how you’re correct. And I’ll tell you now: I’m not interested in your anecdotes. I’ll give you a starting point; you essentially claim that women, as long as they’re not fat and retarded, can lead the life of a sugar baby. Yet women, in the US and worldwide are more likely to live in poverty than men. With the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:48 AM
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Women using their womanly wiles to acquire a lifestyle still does not negate the fact that overt markers of femininity are looked down upon as being inferior to their male counterparts. “Chick flicks” has a negative connotation. “Teen girl music” has a negative connotation. “Girly” in general has a negative connotation. I personally think feminism has perpetuated this, so spare me your lazy “the feminists and leftists want you to think...”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:43 AM
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Your comment (well girls can manipulate boys because of sex) has nothing to do with people perceiving femininity as inferior and pathological. Your comment is just you reiterating your ax to grind with women (the power of their sexuality).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 09:14 PM
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You’re very confident in your inaccurate narrative about the life of the average woman. I too can also make up wildly exaggerated narratives about how my pet adversary group got life on easy mode, and if they didn’t, it’s a testament to their own character flaws. It’s like the old pissed off white guy on social media saying black people don’t have jobs, they all just live off of his hard earned tax dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:52 PM
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My 7 year old daughter got offended when my husband said she has “girly interests.” “I’m not girly!!!” she proclaimed. She has already picked up on that being overtly feminine is regarded as inferior, so she wants to disassociate herself from it, and this attitude sure as shit isn’t coming from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 02:52 AM
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That’s an dramatic over exaggeration if I’ve ever saw one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 10:06 PM
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That may be true, but the implication is that this is a female-specific problem. RPers try to justify this with “we don’t date men, so we’re not concerned with their behavior,” but the language is in fact that fidelity is something that women specifically struggle with, and subsequent discussion about the moral fiber of women vs. men do indeed ensue. With that being said, I’d like to thank my friend’s married boyfriend for getting us Portugal. The Man tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:26 AM
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Neurotic doesn’t mean crazy. I’m highly neurotic. I used to kind of get offended at this description, but I realized all it means it that I experience a lot of emotions often very strongly, and that can mean that I am more aware of my emotions than others. Only idiots think emotion is the antithesis of logic. It’s not. You can be logical but be stupid as hell and wrong about everything. Emotions can enhance your understanding of a situation or problem leading you to be able to see it from a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 09:00 PM
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Marriage is hard as fuck now. People evolved to live in small, socially connected tribes where everyone pitched in to help with the chores, the kids, and you were all just tight with each other. Nowadays you spend 40+ hours a week with a (increasingly revolving door of people) tribe that has nothing to do with your spouse and tasks at home. When you get home you convene your lives back together, which usually involves talking about bills, dealing with the kids, cleaning, misc. chores, etc... wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 02:13 AM
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I think some men, player or not, still are just so shell shocked that women like to fuck and aren’t perfect ethereal angels. I’ve had so many guys give me the “OMG you’re such a sweet, pristine angel” schpiel. Yeah, sometimes. Other times I’m a kind of a dick with a bad temper. It’s just pedestalization. I read all these “do you know how easy it is to fuck a married a woman?” comments. Do you know hard it is to get married men off my case? People are people. People like sex. People do shitty thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 06:04 PM
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They were attractive. Where’s Dylann Roof’s fan club?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:23 PM
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Most of my friends were creeped out and made fun of older guys hitting on us when we were younger. These guys were definitely odd balls with some serious emotional issues. I only had two friends who fell for guys like this and they were both bipolar and from broken homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:37 AM
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Just like when a woman loses her looks. My husband cheated on me and refused to have sex with me because I “ballooned” to 130lbs after the birth of our second child. I was working full time night shift and gained a few pounds at the time. But even at 119lbs I wasn’t good enough for him. Where’s that unconditional love men have again?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:21 AM
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For every single mother of that age, there’s a single dad. Honestly, I’d rather go for the 35 year old divorced dad who was in a long term relationship that didn’t work out rather than the perpetually single guy with no kids who has a string of failed relationships and hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 02:21 AM
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Women certainly can compensate for their loss of looks with money. Compare a broke 35 year old with a rich one..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 02:12 AM
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Nothing turns a woman off more than feeling like a man’s mommy. Having to support him feels like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 02:07 AM
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He was a rich and powerful drug lord, not just some weak ass poor chump throwing a tantrum with an AK and a crowd full of people. Quite a difference. It’s not the “mass murderer” title that gets women living in a warzone off, its the “no one fucks with me and my shit and you’re not gonna starve with me” that gets women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 02:02 AM
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Women love powerful men. Some women take violent men, men who have successfully exercised violence over other men, as powerful. It’s as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 02:01 AM
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Was with you until the “especially for women.” Men would fuck a female mass murderer if she were hot enough. Not sure if you identify as Red Pill, but that community loves to bang on about how men and women are soooo different, but when it comes to judging female behavior; they judge them from a male point of view and them make value judgment based on that. For example; how many female mass murder can you name? How many can you find within the last decade in a half even after doing research? Out…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 01:58 AM
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Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:42 PM
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They just recently got together so no troubles as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:52 PM
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Grew up upper middle class, together with husband for 6 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:50 PM
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I think TRP starts out with a kernel of truth, but then their “solipsism” and fee fees turn it full retard. They analyze female experiences and motives from a (chip on the shouldered) male perspective and have often come to some dumbass conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 10:17 PM
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Nothing. Are you implying that most don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 07:06 PM
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I’m with you until the last paragraph. This bullshit needs to be reframed as “Women are wholistic thinkers, men are linear thinkers.” Russel Peters standup about the boxes nailed this perfectly. Logic and reason are not the antithesis to emotion. Emotion is not inherently illogical. The way this “women are emotional, men are logical” shit is typically is thinking is that men bring to the table facts, and women bring to the table frivolous and fleeting fee fees, which is not at all what any of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 09:32 PM
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First guy I ever had a massive, post-pubescent crush on, who told me he thought I was beautiful, wanted nothing to do with me after our first date because “you’re fucking weird.” My weirdness, by the way, was fiddling with my purse during our date because I was nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 09:20 PM
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I find that men who go for much younger women tend to be massive creeps and weirdos with some sort of chip in their shoulder about age. When I was 17, 18 years old, the older men who hit on me were pathetic to me. They were generally unbelievably thirsty and trying to relive their youth vicariously through me. They’re not relationship material at all. Most women that age want nothing to do with much older men. The only friends of mine who messed with older men were bipolar with daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 09:14 PM
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Indeed. Not everything is personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:29 PM
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TRP starts with a kernel of truth then projects their insecurities and chips on their shoulders onto it to come to often fallacious conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 07:21 PM
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He’s a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:52 PM
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I apologize for.misinterpreting you words. That happens, and I appreciate you clarifying. Even with the clarification, it has become increasingly clear what you wrote to.me was irrelevent to the discussing. But I do not take kindly to my words being misinterpreted, and then deleted by what are largely RP mods, because they are hostile toward me just because I identify as BP Are you the one who.reported me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:45 PM
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I'm guessing you're not a powerful politician or a leader of a large corporation. This clearly means ypu, probably_quite_drunk, are a lazy and incompetent individual. Because that's what you're arguing. This is what I wrote. I was not calling you lazy or incompetent. I know nothing about your accomplishments and work ethic. I was using what appeared to be to me what your logic was, to illustrate its absurdity: You seemed to be arguing that deciding to pursue something other than a high powered p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:34 PM
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Are you implying I was calling you names?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:15 PM
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The argument is that there is one narrow way to define being a driven. If someone does not display drive in that narrow way, which was defined as being in positions of authority, such a powerful politician, you can accuse them of lacking drive. I take issue with this because drive can be displayed in more than just one narrow path. The second thing I took issue with is the assertion that the reason there is a dearth of women in those position is due to "incapability." He was arguing that women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:52 PM
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RPers speak as if there is only one way in which discipline and drive can manifest itself, and that way, of course, reflects what they personally value. It's a fine example of solipcism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:26 PM
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I just got done reading /u/OlBastard say in another thread that it's feminism that makes women feel guilty for being housewives. The problem with people like you, and I think many feminists fail to realize this too, is that it never occurs.to you that one reason women are lacking in high positions of authority is because of choice. It is not, as you say: I told her my position that most women lack the discipline... that there aren't enough capable women to be put there. rather that women have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:54 PM
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I am speaking from the perspective of women with children: I think one reason women are so stressed out is that women are expected to wear both hats, that of a stay at home mom, and that of a working mom, at once: working moms are still expected to do the brunt of the housework and childrearing. Stay at home moms feel guilty for not contributing to the household income. This is why MLM is so enticing to stay at home moms. The fact of the matter is that most women with children have little to no …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:42 PM
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Middle class families have been devastated by the massive loss.of high paying, low.skill jobs that have fled the country and/or have been automated. In the 1950s - 70s, my grandfather was a typewriter salesman/repair man who dropped out of high school. He owned a house, a car, had a stay at home wife, and six children. Feminism has little to nothing to do with why that is not happening anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:41 PM
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Men are herd animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 01:11 AM
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True misogny is beta as f*ck 99% of the time. Right? The misogyny on TRP is nothing but emotional outbursts of men who feel powerless. That's not self improvement, that's wallowing in your misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:38 PM
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Can you elaborate on what you think "treating women like shit" entails?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:35 PM
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And yet women get raped, and then told they brought it on themselves because they were teasing him. Women are expected to dress modestly as to not tempt men. Men can't control themselves, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:32 PM
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but their behavior shows they are more attracted to someone treating them more badly than nicely. I'm going to evoke the musings of the brilliant poet Taylor Swift: Boys only want love when it's torture. Some people are addicted to drama. A lot of people are fucking nuts. The OP of that post admittedly hates his wife and wishes he never got married. What he, and you are describing is an unhealthy, disfunctional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:28 PM
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Haha, no. The grandmother I was the closest with died when I was I was 9, I wasn't close with the other one, and my mom never talked about love/sex/sexuality with me. Even to this day, I've never had any sort of conversation regarding feminism with my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:43 PM
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This is why you don't put people on a pedestal: you end up disappointed when they prove themselves to be a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:34 PM
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Are you single? Married What do you look for in a man? Hard worker, good looking, shares similar values as me Do you think men should pay for the Check when out on a date with you? When my husband and I first dated, I offered to pay my half on our first date, but he insisted on picking up the tab. I insisted on paying the second. If I were out dating now, I would insist on paying my half, however if a man insisted on going Dutch, I would worry I've got a Manospherian on my hands. Do you like chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 06:35 PM
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I'm not bashing men anymore than you are bashing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:19 PM
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TBP isn't so much of an ideology as it is a place for people to vent about the upsetting things on TRP, and often the Manosphere in general, like "these muthafuckas, right?" It's also a place to discuss how and why you diagaree with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 05:11 PM
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The biggest complaint I have about BPers is that many of them don't know how to construct an argument worth a shit: RP: AWALT BPer: How can you say that 100% of all the women who have ever existed are the exact same?!? Me: Ughmigod, I have issues with TRP notion of AWALT, but even I know that's not even the point RPers are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 04:54 PM
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I don't follow RPW. Can you be a little more specific in what was said that you disagreed with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 04:49 PM
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The number one cause of death of pregnant women is men. Men cheat more than women. Redpillers love to focus on that one fact about divorce when it comes to faithfulness to one's spouse, while ignoring all the shit things men do to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 04:44 PM
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And I can find stories about men leaving and/or cheating on women for things such as she got older, child birth ruined her body, and him getting to a spot in his career where he thinks he needs to trade up for a more attractive spouse. I can find stories of men physically and mentally absuing their female partners. Do you think it is fair for me, or any other woman, to come to the conclusion that a lot of men are violent abusers who will drop you the second a gray hair sprouts up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:29 AM
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There certainly are women, and men, who ditch their partner at the sign of trouble. I'm not saying your experiences are wrong. It seems the prevailing though with RPers is that since they have all come together with similar experiences, their experiences must be a universal truth. It's like a group of battered women coming together, discussing their experiences with men together, and coming to the conclusion that men are incapable of not being physically violent with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:22 AM
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My pet cause is women's issues. TRP is pretty relevant in regards to things that rustle those jimmies. I also do not consider troll.and shock value subs such as r/rapingwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:56 AM
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From a blooper on this sub. blooper Nah, I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:48 AM
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Your hamstering "argument" is something I find morally offensive, self serving, callous and downright disgusting. Now that I have taken apart all you said and exposed all your self serving lies, we are done. Your future responses will be silently ignored as I will not soil my spirit with someone as morally vacuous as you. Oh dear God. Ths is truly a sight to behold. Hey mods: If I can be reprimanded and threatened with deletion for calling someone "overly dramatic with a persecution complex" wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:25 AM
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You still aren't really answering my question. I asked you to talk about men. How are men more loyal to their spouses, etc... You're still chiefly talking to me about women. But I'll humor you: Most no fault divorces (90%) are initiated by women/wives. That says nothing about the loyalty of men versus women. How many men want a divorce, but avoid it because they fear what it will do to his finances and issues with his children? Women are thus 9 times more likely to be incapable of actual long te…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 05:29 AM
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When Jill first walked into the bar, she noticed Jim, whom she was most attracted to. Jim never approached Jill. Jim approached Jane, who was the 10 who rejected Jack. Jill sees this as being rejected by Jim. Jill settles on the best candidate she could get, which was Jack. The truth is that Jack and Jill are both probably 5s. Studies show that people tend to end up with those who are similar in level of attractiveness. Although the method at which they got there was a little different, the end …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:07 PM
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Explain to me how men are more loyal to their female significsnt others, how they are more.committed to them, how they honor their relationship more, how they sacrifice themselves more for her, and how they anticipate her needs better. You just told me everything you think women are incapable of. You didn't tell me how you think men are more capable of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:15 PM
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I work in geriatrics. I see old, wrinkly husbands and wives taking care of their ailing spouses all the time. I mean like wiping their soiled butts, feeding them, etc... And I can assure you they are not doing that because they're just not young and hot enough to go out and get something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 04:19 PM
4

Define "love," and tell me how men are more capable of it than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 04:11 PM
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I say people can be petty and easily manipulated. But the way you've presented it, it sounds as if you think this uniquely afflicts women. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 02:40 PM
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If.you ever have a dispute over the intent of a passage in a contract, you go ahead and tell the mediator that there is no such thing as ambiguity, nuance, etc..., and that you don't care about the other party's frivolous "FEELINGS" on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 02:10 PM
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That's not nice. That's brown nosing. But apparently telling these sorts of guys that hurts their feelings, so we have to just keep calling them "nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 04:16 AM
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No. Again, TRP starts with a kernal of truth: I think most people would agree with the notion that women tend to prefer fit, muscley men who are rich, have some sort of status thing going on, etc.. TRP is hated because it draws conclusions and accuses women of things that the original premise being discussed, does not necessarily imply. TRP will add things like "because women despise men who don't fit that description, and will drop him like a bad habit the first chance she gets, because women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 04:01 AM
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Stop trying to tone-police things that hurt your fee fees. Next time someone is blocking your path, instead of saying "excuse me," say "GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY!" Even just a "MOVE!" will do nicely. If they get upset with your delivery, tell them to stop tone policing things that hurt their fee fees.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:07 AM
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As I always say, there is indeed a kernel of truth behind a lot of RP ideas. It is false and naive to think those who disagree with TRP think every last idea that has been presented as RP ideology is 100%, unequivocally wrong. The way ideas are presented: their wording, their phrasing, the tone, the intent behind all of those things, can create nuance and even bigger discrepancies within same or similar premises. If this were not the case, the fields of law, philosophy, rhetoric, would not exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:04 AM
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They way things are presented: the language used, the tone, the nuance, is very, very important. As a matter of fact, there is a whole industry around this phenomenon: it's called law. Its also why even this forum requires moderators. It's quite amazing how you can take the notion of how people react to presentation, and use it as evidence of female intellectual degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:56 PM
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For me, all of them are a turn off. The second and third guys sound like a walking petry dish to me. The first guy, I'd have to wonder if he had some adjustment issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 03:11 AM
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I wasn't. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:19 AM
1

You've had enough material cast at your feet already. The material that you have "thrown at me" doesn't explain the two accusations of me "hiding behind a facade of precision," and that I have been "slinging contempt." So either answer my question, or.cool it with the baseless accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 09:46 PM
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There is a significant difference between telling a man who is unsuccessful with women that "women don't like nice guys, they like jerks" versus "what you think is being nice is not received that way by women, rather it is received as being spineless, brown nosing, overbearing, etc... Women prefer men who are confident, who can flirt, who can take a joke, and who can handle rejection like a champ." Now please explain to me how this is a "facade of precision." And please, explain to me how I am "…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 08:36 PM
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I get that. What I am saying is why still humor them by framing it in that way: nice guy versus jerk. Why not just tell it like it is: what you think is a nice guy is actually a meek, brown nosing, spineless turd. If you want people to respect you, and women to be attracted.to you, you have to be confident, social, blah blah. This is not being a jerk. Why keep on perpetuating this false "nice guy/jerk" dichotomy, and then have guys running to you in tears because they done fucked up good because…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 07:43 PM
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Correct me if I am misrepresenting anything you believe: TRP is about getting men laid under any means necessary, even if you think feeding them lies will do it. One reason you keep feeding into the "nice guy/jerk" dichotomy, even though it is not necessarily true, is to preserve men's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 07:39 PM
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So you're more concerned with reframing the flawed beliefs he has so it's easier for him to stomach than hurting his feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 06:56 PM
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How is perpetuating their misunderstanding of women, flirting, and relationships, beneficial? How does saying "you may think you're being nice, but to women, your behavior comes off as overbearing, brown nosing, etc..." difficult to understand? It sounds as if those who peddle the whole "women don't like nice guys, they like jerks" are still subscribing to false beliefs about women. Which is interesting, because TRP prides itself with living in reality. All they have done is just gone from one e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 06:30 PM
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I'd agree. But you keep using their flawed thinking to describe the situation. Instead of saying "being a spineless, meek, capitulating brown noser comes.off as needy, overbearing, creepy, not nice, to women, so stop it" you tell them "Women don't like when you're nice to them!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 05:53 PM
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None of that, the groveling, the meekness, is being nice. Being confident and forward isn't not being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 05:35 PM
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I rarely give any votes at all. They only time I downvote is if someone posts something that is factually wrong, or comments that are truly meant to troll. To me, downvoting someone because you disagree with them, or just because they identify as a member of the side you don't like, is just childish. I made three comments here within a few minutes, and someone, I guarantee you it's just one person, took it upon themselves to go to my user page and downvoted all three. They didn't respond to me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 05:34 PM
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I'm not trying to insult you, but attitudes like yours come off to me as lazy: Adulting is hard, so I want to find someone else to do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:51 PM
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I don't believe a true submissive/dominant dynamic, where one person wears the pants, and the other defers, exists in any relationship. What I've observed is that the submissive party, most often the woman, becomes passive aggressive in her quest for dominance. This is because no one is submissive (or dominant) 100% of the time. Sure, you can pay lip service into how you, as a submissive wife, are trying to keep your ego in check, but as RPers always say, actions speak louder than words. So my r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:48 PM
3

I don't think any girls were rejecting Elliot Rodger because he was too nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:40 PM
1

U wot m8?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 04:37 PM
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Fathers can also place children up for adoption. They can also utilize safe haven laws. Women do not have an extra right in that circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 01:18 PM
1

Cyncisicm, here, is another word for defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 02:39 AM
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Oh, ok. Even if that were true, why would your experiences still be more valid than mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 05:17 PM
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Well my experience, the experience my friends, is different. So what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 05:13 PM
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No, that isn't true. It's laughable and absurd. And you have absolutely nothing to back up that assertion other than the musings of the most extremists of RPers and RP bloggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 05:01 PM
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Explain what you think OP is referring to when they say "toxic masculinity."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:42 PM
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Are you incapable of being a good partner just because you've been in past relationships? It's one thing to be weary of serial daters. It's an entirely other thing, a ridiculous thing, to maintain that just because someone has had a failed relationship or two, that they're incapable of being a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:29 PM
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Your made up percentages mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:27 PM
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You can be realistic about negative things that can arise in a relationship without being cynical and overly critical. And if you think having a close relationship with someone isn't special between you two, well I'm sorry you'll never get to experience that. But please understand that is you, not everyone else's experience. Lastly, emotion is not the antitheses of logic. Everyone has emotions. Understanding your emotions, and dealing with them productively, is what makes for a logical, well adj…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:05 AM
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One doesn't put women on a pedestal. One doesn't say anything about women. It is solely about you. It is solely about your behavior, and how you react to others. It leaves the other person's behavior open ended because it is not about them. You ultimately can't control others. The second is just denigration. Do you not see why people have an issue with denigration?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 11:44 PM
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No. I think what girlcherry is saying is that TRP starts with a kernal of truth to it, but loses it when it comes to the interpretation of these circumstances they've observed, and subsequently, they end up with flawed conclusions. It's one thing to say that your relationship may go south because the other person is not reciprocating feelings for you, and to not get too torn up about it because ultimately, no one owes you anything, blah blah, everything she says above. It's entirely different th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 11:39 PM
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2/3 of small businesses fail within 10 years. So why should anybody bother to start a business with such high failure rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 11:15 PM
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Approaching a relationship with this attitude is setting you up for failure. It's looking at the relationship in a cynical way, just to soften the blow if it doesn't work out. You can be realistic about the chance of a relationship not working out, and you can set boundaries and have a backbone, without saying: this relationship will probably fail, and without casting women and their alleged fickle, disloyal nature as the culprit of most relationship failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 11:14 PM
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I think it depends in the context. Mostly though, it is being done for attention, to get people titillated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 07:04 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:26 PM
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I agree. Like I said, there is a lot of emotion here, and most people are unable to set that aside to have a rational debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:06 PM
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Terp makes me laugh. It also sounds like derp. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:05 PM
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That aggravated me so much. Now the tides have turned!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:04 PM
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I agree. I'd like to read more of what you have written on this subject. What sort of arguments, if not scientific, are being had?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:03 PM
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Yet when this place started it was majority BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:39 AM
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I somewhat agree. I think the subject matter being discussed here is too emotional, and most people cannot conduct themselves in a mature, civil manner when confronted with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:53 AM
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And yet many BPers say the same about RPers. Over on TBP, I call RPers "terps." It invokes the word "twerp." I avoid doing that here, because it demonstrates bad faith. The fact that you refer to BPers as "bloops" is one reason why many BPers refuse to participate in this sub: because they're often met with snark, and nothing short of a hostile, contemptuous attitude from RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:51 AM
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Do you consider yourself RP or RP leaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:47 AM
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Someone telling you that your ideas are hostile and condescending to women is different than being hostile and condescending to the person with whom you are debating because you don't agree with them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:47 AM
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My argument is simply that this place is not a place of debate between Red Pillers and Blue Pillers. I don't care if it changes, just wanted to see what everyone else's perspectives were on this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:45 AM
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Who are the BPers who have become Red?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:42 AM
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and that might be absolutely true, but this is still fulfilling the purpose of this sub, Not if it's called Purple Pill Debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:36 AM
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I think that ship has sailed. There isn't going to be a debate sub between BPers and RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:34 AM
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You can debate controversial ideas without being hostile and condescending to the person you're debating with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:33 AM
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was that sentence difficult for you to understand What are you even talking about? You said, quote: "I didn't say that you said it was anyone's fault, you assumed that I made that assumption. But in your first reply to me, you wrote, quote You seem to think that it's the fault of RPers, that BPers choose not to come here. So yes, you did literally say that I think it is RPers fault that BPers don't come here. About as thought provoking as saying that it's a circle jerk sub because one side stopp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:31 AM
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As a mod, if you call your sub a debate sub, but there is very little debate going on, then that kind of is your problem if you want to maintain that that is what this place is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:23 AM
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What's funny is that when this sub first started, it was predominantly BPers because it was the only platform we could directly confront RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:21 AM
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If you're going to engage in debate with someone, you should approach it with good faith and maturity. Otherwise, you're just telling them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:20 AM
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I didn't say that you said it was anyone's fault, you assumed that I made that assumption. Uhhh..... You seem to think that it's the fault of RPers, that BPers choose not to come here. I proposed that the lack of BPers is due to BPers not coming here. There aren't Blue Pillers here because they don't come here... Wow, now that's thought provoking. and with the likelihood that you would prefer more BPers Not at all. I would prefer that this place be called "Red Pill Discussion," with a byline tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:18 AM
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Gee, I wonder why BPers would view this place as a waste of time with such attitudes as this? I'm not asking why BPers don't come here, I'm asking you to convince me that this place isn't just a RP circle jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:13 AM
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So then you don't disagree with me? And nowhere did I discuss anything with fault. You make a lot of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:06 AM
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Ha! What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:15 PM
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...because staring at people is rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:32 PM
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You wrote: "Do you have any rebuttal, or are you just going to call me names?" I wrote: "What names did I call you, exactly? [...] And, rebuttal to what?" That's a direct retort to your question. My question was if you were going to rebuttal anything I wrote in regards to your beliefs about male versus female interests, or of you're just going to name call. "What names did I call you?" does not answer ANY question I asked. And I did answer what names you called.me. You called me irrational. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:18 AM
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You addressed nothing I wrote. You went on a a rant calling me irrational, saying I am playing the victim card, how I am so offended by you, how you are unable to deeply reason with me, and how I need to calm down. Your last two replies have put forth zero effort in addressing anything I have written. They are just attacks on me, which includes a strawman about my beliefs on why there is a gender imbalance in tech, while simutaneously getting indignant that I have supposedly misrepresented your …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:49 AM
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Do you have any rebuttal, or are you just going to call me names?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:36 AM
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Your point was to use this evidence that men are not allowed to even be in the same vicinity as a woman without being shouted down as an oppressive pervert. So you use one extreme example, that got thrown out on its ass in court, to illustrate this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:31 AM
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I didn't argue that the gender imbalance in tech is because of the "evil patriarchy." I didn't postulate any reason for why I think there is an imbalance. And that's rich, because the whole.point of you replying to me is to call me out for accusing you of holding beliefs that you claim you didn't express. But anyway, while we're on that subject, you said that those who are interested in tech are curious and inquisitive, which is why it is male dominated. Curiousity and inquisitivity are two huge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:28 AM
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Better? But come on. All the horrible name calling that goes on around here, someone comes tattling to the mods that they got called overly dramatic with a persecution complex? How appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:15 AM
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And the prosecution got its ass handed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:47 AM
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And yet the case was thrown out of court, the man, aquitted. I can also list frivolous unjust prosecution cases regarding just about any avenue in life including where a woman is fucked over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:29 AM
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The premise is always this with you people: if there is something, whether that be an interest, hobby, any sort of pursuits, that is disproportionately male, it is an inherently superior subject to anything that is disproportionately female. Curiosity and inquisitivity are consider endearing qualities a person can posess. They are a mark of intelligence. So of course you define being interested in tech as being the paragon of thise traits, and reject that these traits can expressed in other aven…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:10 AM
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Your argument is that men aren't even allowed to look at a woman and be sexually attracted to her without someone shouting you down as an oppressive pervert. This is an overly dramatic interpretation of the notion of objectification, mired in persecution complex. It's patently false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 12:46 AM
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That's not even what I wrote, so fuck off with your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 12:42 AM
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The ongoing problem of unchecked swole/player/male sexuality shaming. I agree with this being one reason for the anger in TRP and MRA communities. What you literally described is the notion of toxic masculinity. The fact times changed and working hard - getting a family doesn't work anymore. It still works for plenty of people. The discontentment with many in TRP and MRA camps is with the fact that they thought they were entitled to these things: e.g. a high paying job if I just study hard enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 08:14 PM
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Nigga, you 'spect me to read all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 12:25 PM
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The chief reason female doctors leave the profession, or cut their hours down, is due to family demands. But even if someone leaves for other reasons, such as to pursue another career, that still doesn't make them lazy. The definition of lazy is being inactive. Pursuing a different avenue, or cutting your hours down from 55 hours a week to 45, so you can actually see your children, is not being lazy. And it's very bizarre to me that you want to try to classify it as that. And BTW, the downvote b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:06 PM
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Tending to other matters, such as your children, instead of dedicating yourself entirely to work, is not laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 04:13 PM
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If we talk about Husband/Wife murderers, then wives are massively more likely to kill their husbands than the other way around. No, no, no, and no. Those graphs list the victims, not the perpetrators. Look at the text under the tables. "Relationship is that of the victim to the offender." That means in that first graph, the distribution of husbands killed by their wives is 96, and the distribution of wives killed by their husbands is 498. Wives are four-fold more likely to be killed by their hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 01:21 AM
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What does the fact that men are more likely to be murdered... by other men, by the way, have to do with the fact that we're specifically talking about instances of murder resulting from romantic rejection? Red Herring as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 01:12 AM
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oryxic asked you if you think women chose to be doctors just so they can be lazy, yet still reap financial success. Yes, pumpkin, i can read usernames, and am aware of who said what. You responded with asserting that female doctors taking on less rigorous schedules than their male counterparts could be related to, could suggest, that women are lazier than men. I vehemently reject that, because I know the reason why female doctors take on less rigorous schedules: they have different home demands …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 12:54 AM
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The whole premise of your argument is predicated on the acceptance of the belief that women are lazy, and then you asserted that that may be the reason, that may be correlated, with why female doctors work less hours. I vehemently reject your premise of women, as a whole, being lazy, and that there is any possibly conceivable relation to the hours female doctors work. Now explain to me how I failed to comprehend the spirit of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:04 PM
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Has it occurred to you that the reason female doctors seek a different, less rigorous schedule than male doctors is because women have different home life demands and priorities compared to men? Oh no, it couldn't be that. It's clearly because they're lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 12:47 AM
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I'm studying engineering - there is literally no reason that 80%+ of my class is male, other than the fact that women don't want to work as hard. And this is why the circle jerk around STEM majors is a running joke on Reddit. Engineers are not the only people who study and work hard. In our current economy, it is a field that is quickly growing and therefore is well compensated. This does not mean you're a god of intellect and putting your nose to the grindstone. And as for as I'm concerned, unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 02:14 AM
1

Twins are literally clones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:10 PM
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The point is that when someone say "well I've observed x," yeah, well my observation is the opposite, so they're now both irrelevent to this conversation at that point if our anecdotes are the only thing we have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:57 PM
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A sincere question: Are you illiterate? Oh look, a RPer being insulting. How novel. What is so hard about that paragraph to understand?! You're really stuck on this idea that I just fail to comprehend what your stance is. I don't. I disagree with it, hence why I am debating you. The average single father - by virtue of being the sole custodian - probably is a dedicated guy. Please, try me. In my very first response to you, I asked why you are referring to single father's as only men with full cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:49 PM
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No, you just refused to process what I said. Please tell me how I am misrepresenting your argument: Single mothers are awful because they're idiots who should have aborted, or scumbags who tricked some poor schmuck into fatherhood. Single fathers are not scumbags because they cannot trick a woman into getting pregnant (lol) and men cannot force a woman to abort a pregnancy. Now let me reiterate my issue with what I believe your stance to be: You give men the benefit of the doubt. You consider me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:27 AM
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That's not what I wrote. What I wrote is that their trophy wife are not the female equivalents of garbage men. They often are educated, and come from money themselves. Hairstylists, for example, can make bank. My friend's mom is as retired hairstylist who owned her own salons, and made seven figures in our shitty Midwestern city. My other friend bought her first home, worth $400K, when she was 24 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:26 AM
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Not interested in your anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:18 AM
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If I'm wrong, then show me I'm wrong. From how I've always understood it, a lot of money can be made in engineering, but only at the upper echelons, which most people do not reach. The median salaries are comparable with nursing. Entry level salaries for engineering have increasingly been in the upper 40s to low 50s range. If I'm wrong, show me I;'m wrong, and I'll concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:18 AM
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The median annual wage for registered nurses was $66,640 in May 2014. What is the average annual salary for Electrical Engineer I? How much does a Electrical Engineer I make? The median annual Electrical Engineer I salary is $65,410, as of February 22, 2016, with a range usually between $60,670-$71,384. The median annual Mechanical Engineer I salary is $64,325, as of February 22, 2016, with a range usually between $59,627-$70,006 There are dozens of types of engineers, so I went with the most ub…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:59 AM
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I agree that developer are not engineers, but don't tell them that. Anyway, yes, the ceiling is much higher with engineers, but I'm talking median salaries here, which are very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:23 AM
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Entry level salary for engineers has been falling significantly in the last decade. Around here, entry level developers are making $45K. Entry level for nurses is about the same. Established nurses, especially those with advanced degrees, can make well into the $90K range, even the low six-figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:41 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:00 AM
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No, but I'm trying to juxtapose the example OP used: female doctors and garbagemen. OP is right, I don't see those pairs very often. But I also don't see male doctors with female cashiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:56 PM
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Nurses can make similar salaries to engineers. Yet so many people think nurses are just service industry bed pan/refreshment jockeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:48 PM
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Indeed. When you look at physicians, for example, both men and women tend to marry within the field. Women now make up close to 40% of physicians in the US, so those male doctors have a much bigger pool to choose from than those male CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:46 PM
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No matter what side you're on: women should be SAHMs or women should be able to support themselves, women on the opposite side have chosen it for the same reason: They're brainwashed by larger societal forces. It's just like when women don't support the political candidate you do: it's because women have been brainwashed by the other side and are too stupid and self serving to see things the way you do. Even Gloria Steinem agrees. Women: No matter what you choose, you're stupid, wrong, and brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:43 PM
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According to that, physicians mostly marry within their own field. When they marry outside of their field, for men, teachers make up the largest group whom they marry. Though teachers are at a lower occupational class as doctors, it is not like the differences that OP used, which is female doctors with male garbage collectors. Male doctors may marry teachers. They're not marrying Pizza Hut cashiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:35 PM
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Because people tend to pair up with those in their same socioeconomic/education level. I've also never seen a male doctor married to a woman with a GED who worked at Pizza Hut her whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:29 PM
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Your response illustrates perfectly how RPers give men the benefit of the doubt: Men find themselves in adverse situations because of a multitude of perfectly explainable, and acceptable answers. Sure, Cuddle, there are some shitty dudes out there, so if you want to bash deadbeat dads, be my guest. But most single dads are just upstanding dudes, or at least "favorably compare to women." Women. Women, on the other hand, find themselves in adverse situations because they're awful, dumb, the scum o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:26 PM
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So you only consider someone a single father if they have full custody? Why leave out men with shared custody? A woman who gets into a relationship with him is still going to have to deal with someone else's kids. And what about.men who don't have anything to do with their children's lives at all? I mean, if you want to talk about scumbags who make poor decisions.... Those two reasons to be the biggest objections TRP has to single mothers: you have to deal with someone else's kids and single mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:12 PM
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What it means by the statement that women are more emotional than men is that women tend to be better at identifying emotions in others and in themselves. It does not mean that women's opinions and decisions are based on flippant, fleeting emotions of the moment, and men's on careful analysis of a situation, which is often what is asserted by RPers. And logic is not the antitheses of emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:38 AM
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I don't think they do, which is why the joke exists when you see a fashionable and cut guy that he is possibly gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:49 PM
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Your mistake is in thinking that people are blaming men for unrealistic beauty standards on women. The fashion industry, other women, these are both example of forces that reinforce unrealistic standards on women. Nobody is blaming Joe Six Pack or Cody Video Game Nerd for these standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 07:48 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:39 PM
1

Most people are simple and predictable. These bland ass boring, predictable dudes have bland ass, boring, predictable wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 05:08 AM
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Yet the women most likely to not live in nuclear families in the West are low income, low education, minority women, the women whom feminism has done the least to help. The.more educated and affluent a woman is, the less likely she is to divorce or have kids out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 07:03 PM
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TRP is about accepting reality and working within it to achieve happiness. Oh, OK, so RPers are accepting "reality." Stating this makes you imperivious to critcism of your ideas. You deal with reality, anybody who criticising clearly has an irrational agenda against you. You refuse to accept the legitimacy of any male space that isn't a feminist space. The problem is you, not us. Illustrating my above comment perfectly. As for your last two paragraphs, I could use those things to describe many R…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 12:33 PM
1

I don't want to be an asshole. I want to just be myself. But nobody likes myself because myself is an unattractive, socially awkward dork. Please. You are not just some mild mannered dork who just wants to be a genuine, fuzzy, warm nice guy to everyone. IRL, you want a certain lifestyle, one that commands admiration, elicits envy, and commands respect from others. You have made it clear that you are very concerned with your appearance to the outside world. That's why you always talk about how mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 12:22 PM
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False dichotomy. It's not either "adopt TRP or be complacent." In all likelihood, you're probably not as ugly as you think. Go out and people watch for a little bit. There are some ugly ass MFs who are walking around with significant others. You are making up other people's minds about you, and assuming their motivations for not being interested in you. So you have resigned to the notion that your looks are the only thing holding you back, have already decided that the solution to your problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 10:00 AM
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I don't have an issue with men talking about how to get laid. Yes, some people make fun of it, because there are certain ideas about what masculinity is (e.g. being a natural at pussy slaying).. The reason people hate TRP is because of the pervasive "women are moral and intellectual degenerates who should be seen and not heard ." Writing dissertations about how women shouldn't be able to vote is not sexual strategy. So no, we don't hate you because we think you should have to date slutty fat gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:46 AM
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Question for women... Red Piller: I'ma stop you there and answer with a strawman. Take this circle jerking shit back to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:37 AM
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Yes. Absolutely. When RPers go on rants about they feel like women with high partner counts can't pair bond, I feel the same way about men. While having sex all I would be able to think about is how many other vags he's dipped that thing into (gross), and wonder if I'm just another notch on his belt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:36 AM
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That's why internet women hate TRP so much. Because we're tricking them. We're not really cool. We're just pretending, I can assure you that the reason people have an issue with TRP is not because they're horrified that a bunch of nerds are trying to get laid by pretending to be more attractive than you really are. People often mock it, but they don't hate it. People hate TRP because of the dissertations written about how women shouldn't have the right to vote because of women's moral and intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:24 AM
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From here? Haha, I get more attention, and from better looking dudes, than I ever did as a teen/20 something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 07:21 PM
1

A year or so ago there was a school in my state that had the ACLU get on its ass for having a school-administrator-lead-prayer before basketball games. Reading comments on the story online, people were shitting themselves thinking that the lawsuit was to prevent Christians from being able to pray during school functions, which is not at all what it was about. This is a perfect example of RP moral outrage where they ignore the facts, create their own persecution narrative, and let their fee fees …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 02:55 AM
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Because that's not what you guys really do. You are constantly drawing comparisons between men and women, using the supposed inherent positive attributes of men as measuring sticks to illustrate the supposed inherent negative attributes of women. For example, it has been claimed many a times on TRP that women are incapable of being honest, honorable, objective, etc... TRP says that these things as "masculine abstracts. TRP says that women are mentally and emotionally teenagers, whereas men matur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:07 PM
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I'd agree, except for the part about women being more.likely to get emotional. But what you believe about AMALT has.not been widely reflected by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:19 PM
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Oh honey, I'll break it down for you. A hypothesis is asserted, and then, through the scientific method, work is done to disprove it. TRP begins with its conclusion, and does everything in its power to affirm the conclusion. This can include selectively including and ignoring evidence. And just straight up making shit up. This, by its very definition, is pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:12 PM
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This is more about you projecting the chip on your shoulder you have about "hot girls" than actually commenting on their reality. It's just an attempt to villify and patronize.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:45 PM
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As a woman in her thirties, I can assure you, getting hit on, checked out, or brown nosed by random strangers is not even a blip on my radar of important things. My goals are to be the best mother I can be, to be the best wife I can be, to continue growing and developing in my career, and to explore and develop my hobbies. But according to men who have chips on their shoulders about women, who say things like "women only have their looks/pussies to offer," my life is virtually over, I can no lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:41 PM
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No, TRP begins with a premise, and applies a whole lotta confirmation bias, and voilà. RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:28 PM
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Yeah, so you just described a lot of men I know. TRP takes shitty behavior that anybody, regardless of gender, can display, and attributes that to inherent feminine degeneracy. Because to TRP, when a woman shows a flaw, it's because she's a woman. When a man shows a flaw, it has absolutely no reflection on his gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:27 PM
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What an easy to swallow, convenient way to dismiss criticism without hurting that little thinky noggin of yours: "You disagree with us because deep down, you know we're right!" BTW, TBP sub is about 50/50 male to female.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:39 AM
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TBP exists because TRP is a hate group that asserts, on a regular basis, and to thunderous applause, that women are morally and intellectually degenerate compared to men. There have been discussions, highly upvoted ones, that gave discussed why women deserve to have their right to vote revoked. And you think TBP's problem with you is that you're trying to get laid?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 03:36 AM
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There are safe haven laws where a parent, not just a mother, but a parent can drop off a newborn without any repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:15 PM
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Women have an additional right, the right to abortion, because women are the only ones who can get pregnant. Sorry, that's biology. You're trying to create a "fair" situation by extending men an opportunity to bow out of parenthood, which, for all intents and purposes is what abortion does for women, however women do not have the right to abort because of that reason. Women have the right to an abortion because it is considered a medical procedure, and for that reason, it has been deemed none of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:00 PM
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I love it when the white surpremacist RPers clash with the Asian RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 12:58 AM
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So then what's the point of even replying to me if your only response is "nuh uh, that's not my observation." You know you'd be annoyed with me if that was my response to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:38 PM
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Well my observations and experiences are different. What are we gonna do about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:09 PM
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And you're basing this assertion on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:05 PM
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I'm poking fun at the false dichotomy. To Red Pillers, it is incomprehensible that a very attractive man who could have virtually any woman he wants, would settle down and be in a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:02 PM
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Probably equally. Studies do show that men and women lie about different things. Women are more likely to lie to preserve someone else's feelings and to prevent conflict. Men are more likely to lie to benefit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:49 PM
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Why can't I marry the Scandinavian hunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:04 AM
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RPers certainly do talk about men, and the way it is often framed by RPers is that all of those negatives traits are explicitly feminine traits, whereas the traits that describe masculinity are just the opposite of those negative femine traits. Example: women lie. Honesty is a masculine abstract. Women are emotional. Men are logical. Women are followers and consumers. Men are doers and creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:31 PM
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It was the draft that caused the US to give all men the right to vote, after all, and not just the wealth land owners. Conscription has never been tied to voting in the US. This is why we have the 26th Amendment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 07:45 AM
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I said I'd start a podcast on this subject. I asked if anyone would listen.. I was told "nope" and downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:18 AM
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Women: IKEA stocks extra tampons, for free, in their bathrooms. Isnt that nice? Man: You females get your period evey.month, and you don't have the foresight to pack an extra tampon around that time of the month?!? And we wonder why men rule the world....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:14 AM
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Selective service is not the draft. The draft ain't never gonna happen again. Warfare is so far removed from the old "boots on the ground" strategy of decades past. But I do think everyone, male and female, should serve a year for their country, similar to what Israel does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:02 AM
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Women are attracted to a man who has a lot of women after him, but he chooses her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 04:59 AM
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That man was not affiliated with the MRM. And he failed because feminists ignored him? How about he failed because MRA will give Paul Elam $50k at the drop, of a hat to fund a get together, but can't be bothered to help fund a men's domestic violence shelter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 12:38 AM
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tl;dr the MRM is not proactivly pro-man, its reactively anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 07:21 PM
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I'm calling out the bullshit that MRA can't lift a finger to help men because the big bad feminists shut them down every time they try. It's just a weak excuse. So someone pulled a fire alarm at a MRM meeting. So CAFE got kicked out of a gay pride parade. These instances are cited as reasons the MRM can't organize fundraisers for men's shelters, or spearhead a campaign to raise awareness of male suicide, and resources to help men in that position. My point is that people fighting for a cause hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 03:20 PM
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What? I'm really not understanding what you're getting at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:10 AM
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As I just wrote to someone else, people have been beaten, tortured, murdered, jailed, had their family ripped apart, had their businesses destroyed, for fighting for what they believe in. MRA get the fired alarm pulled at one of their meetings, and they throw their hands up in the air saying "How are we supposed to get anything done if there are people who don't like us?!? I guess the only choice is it's back to trolling feminists on Twitter and Tumblr." Again, who or what is stopping the MRM fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:57 AM
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I see this argument a lot: "But it's hard trying to get people to care about your cause/not give you flak for it." People have been beaten, murdered, tortured, jailed, had their families ripped apart, etc... for fighting for what they believe in. Someone pulls the fire alarm during a men's rights meeting, and MRA throw their hands in their air saying "How are we supposed to get anything done if some people oppose us and don't take us seriously?!? Back to angrily trolling Tumblr it is, I guess"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:50 AM
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What's the point of this comment and the similar one posted by /u/dejour? My point was that the MRM doesn't give a shit about helping men, that they're about bitching on the Interent about how much they hate feminists. So your rebuttal to this is "look at all these awful feminists on Tumblr!" Uhh, that only confirms exactly what I wrote. How do feminists on Tumblr prevent MRA from doing anything to actually help men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:39 AM
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IMO, doing something proactive to help men in need is more effective at raising awareness than what MRA usually do, which is to raise their awareness by hijacking discussions about women's issues to tell feminists, even women in general, to shut up and shove it, because men have it worse. Again, MRA are not proactively pro-man, they're reactively anti-feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 02:20 AM
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When an argument is based on strawmen and is made in bad faith, it's impossible to argue because fallacies are inherently illogical. For example, the piece they linked to with the quotations "fathers are abusive, don't give them custody," never once actually said that, nor was that the point the piece was making. The piece starts out stating that the vast majority of child custody arrangements, upwards of 90%, are mutually agreed upon by the parents without court intervention, and when fathers d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:45 AM
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I have no issue with men laying out issues and solutions to problems that uniquely or disproportionately affect men. I'd get behind lot of those causes, such as how men are disproportionately homeless, how men disproportionately commit suicide. The problem with the MRM is that the only time they ever bring up these issues is when they are telling off feminists on the Internet. They use these issues as leverage to attempt to smack down feminists and tell them to get back into their place. "Yeah w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:11 AM
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I've seen many Red Pill posts shitting on housewives/stay at home moms as lazy and useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:29 AM
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Dan Bilzerian pays porn stars and escorts to hang out with him. His whole image: the women, the poker career, the muscles, the jet setting, the cars, are all the result of what he bought with daddy's dirty money. He's a grade A creep and loser, if you ask me. As for other nerds, a lot do get women. My husband works in a very nerdy, male dominated field. Just about all of his dorky coworkers are married or in relationships, just not with the hot party girls TRP values so much. This looks like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 09:17 PM
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This is false. Now I am not saying that no feminist ever has gone on a tirade about how men are the enemy, how they are the bad guy in the victimization of women, but that is not the prevailing thought. Most feminists will acknowledge that women have indeed been purveyors of patriarchy. I recently spoke about how I was berated by a group of women in a supposed support group for not being a stay at home mom. I have never once had a man say anything at all about this decision. Yet I have been accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:49 PM
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Ok, fair enough. But y'all can't be like "Blue Pillers never offer an alternative view!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:41 PM
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AWALT does have a kernal of truth to it. A lot of women do behave selfishly, immaturely, refuse to take responsibility for their actions, etc.. Here is where TRP gets it wrong, and why people have such an issue with you: Laying out a list of character traits,and saying that all women have the capability of behaving in such a way, even if they don't necessarily express a specific behavior, is not really saying anything at all. I can say that we all have the capability of flicking our wrists just …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:40 PM
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So you're point is that societies where women are seen as equal are backwards shitholes. Really strong point you have there, as places geberarlly regarded as backwards shitholes, like Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, The Congo, are bastions of gender equality. Canada, Norway, Denmark, and even the US, the coubtries that currently lead the world in modern technology, art, literature, aetc... are fiercely segregated by gender to keep women and their inherent incompetence from fucking everything up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 08:00 AM
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Talking about the oppression that women faced in no way suggests that all men lived the high life without any struggles and adversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 07:53 AM
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Serious question: I've thought of starting a podcast discussing Red Pill from the perspective of a "blooper." Would any of you listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 12:29 AM
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There seems to be two camps of Red Pillers: Women can bring something to the table, but most don't because modern women suck. And your position, that women just can't do anything to please you other than sex. Do you hold this against women that you don't value them for anything but sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:31 PM
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But I love mine. Oh you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:08 AM
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nohomo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:05 AM
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So the only requirement most men have for a relationship with a woman is that she has a functioning vagina...? You may be desperate, but don't pin that shit on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:03 AM
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He'd be treating her how his mommy treated him, and look how he turned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 11:00 AM
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Do you believe most men bring something to the table in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:59 AM
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Pretty much this. As you wrote, men have a pretty clear set of expectations for what is example life choices. If a man chooses to deviate from this, or is for whatever reason unable to live up to these expectations, is when he receives flack. Women, on the other hand, receive a substantial amount of flack for whatever they choose. You can't win, you're always wrong. I was, for example, called selfish and shallow, to my face, by a group of women in my postpartum support group, because I wasn't qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 11:43 PM
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It's hilarious how he thinks that's a smart and insightful comment. It is actually a quite foolish and ignorant statement, as language and nuance are quite important. There is a whole industry around nuance and language: its called the law. There, better for you? For people who don't think nuance and language are important, you sure like to pick it apart and argue about it. Are you going to go through my comments just to pick bitchy little fights with me, now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:25 PM
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You have no basis for the claim that he won't consider your points, Except I've tangled with him before. Stop being such a pussy woman. Oh you too? As I wrote, there are some of you, not all Red Pillers, but certain ones, like you and rafay_m, who are so void of reasonability and logic, that dismissing your absurd claims is all you can do. I've spent countless time here over the last 3 years or so bringing up anecdotal evidence regarding these claims about the inherent . I've discussed the socio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 01:14 PM
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It's hilarious how you think this comment makes you look smart and insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:55 PM
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Says the guy who can just manage to insult, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 12:54 PM
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So by invoking Tannen, you're trying to say that you dont necessarily believe that women are inferior to men, its just that men and women are different, with a major difference being that men are competent and capable at just about any given task, whereas women are incompetent and incapable. It's like when white nationalists try to argue that they aren't racist, they're just pro-white: No one is buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:46 AM
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Is this just a long winded way of saying "I substitute your reality for my own?'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 06:37 AM
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Edit; you know what, i'm RP, and we're taught to debate objectively. at least on the sub. So i'll take the most compelling argument I can glean from you're saying instead of assuming you're just hamstering yourself into feeling superior. Aww, how kind of you. It only took you three to four comments of calling me an irrational, emotional hamster, with ad hominem attacks on me to demonstrate just how much contempt you have for me because I"m a woman, and women are dumb! before you could be bothere…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:23 PM
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The issue I have with TRP is the assertion that women are moral and intellectual degenerates. It's one thing to say "no, women aren't ethereal princesses who can do no wrong, that you do need to have a backbone because some people will exploit you, and women find that backbone attractive." versus "You are a man. You are better than women, and don't you forget that. Women are mentally deficient glorified children who lack just about any endearing quality aside from making your dick hard, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:06 PM
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You're not having a conversation. You're just gaslighting and insulting me. This is a conversation: These are the reasons and examples that make me believe that men are superior to women. Now counterpoint. Not a conversation: women are unequivocally inferior to men, but your hamster will fight that because it makes you feel bad to acknowledge otherwise. You can't have a rational conversation with someone who asserts their unfounded opinion as fact, and tells you that they know what you're really…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:56 PM
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So in other words, women don't want to feel inferior to men they're attracted to, but you use that notion as a tool for yourself to reduce approach anxiety. And this is different than what I've been saying, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:45 PM
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I've addressed this same response ad nauseum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:24 PM
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You sound reasonable. Hopefully you can move past all the need for the novelty of The Red Pill without it disillusioning you about women and relationahips, without adopting hateful, dehumanizing view about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:03 PM
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Yes, i realize that is how you view TRP. But what you are doing is just trading one toxic view of women: "girls are princesses who are soft and sweet and warm , who can do no wrong" for another: "women are inferior whores by nature who will take advantage of you and hurt you unless you rule her feral nature with an iron fist." You just knocked women off the pedestal into the dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:44 PM
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Nothing about what I wrote about is anything I'm insecure about. All I did was rephrase and layout Red Pill beliefs. Saying someone sucks is the same as saying they're inferior. Stop with this disingenuous "we dont think women suck we just think they're inferior to men in just about every imaginable way, lol." The point is that you think men are better than women. You've offered absolutely nothing of substance to any of my replies. All you have done is basically say "but women are inferior, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:39 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/448jjy/women_do_like_powerful_men_but_not_in_the_way_trp/czp2j4w And https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/448jjy/women_do_like_powerful_men_but_not_in_the_way_trp/czp3i0p
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:20 PM
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rafay_M,s comment is pointless. Replying to me pretty much saying "but ya know, women really do suck" is not engaging in any sort of debate or criticism of anything I wrote. It's him just stating his misogyny. So what do you expect me to do? Say "yes, you've really got a point there, women do suck at virtually everything," or do you think I'm going to try to meticulously change his mind? Because I already know how fruitful that conversation will be. His position is so void of reasonability that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:16 PM
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According to TRP women lack: courage, wit, honesty, integrity, the ability to love, empathy, loyalty, curiousity, pragmatism, objectivity, self control,.self discipline, etc... Yes, I am hamstering and suffering from disassociation because I disagree that women are moral and intellectual degenerates, lacking in just about any endearing human quality. It's definitely not me reacting indignantly to the typical dehumanization asserted by every hate group ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:05 AM
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The account is a day old, and has only posted here with some pretty blantanly troll material: It means he doesn't find me special or wants to choose me. Where's the good feeling in that? I want to be equal to the strong, confident, sexy guy I'm with, because it makes me feel special. Muh fee fees!!! I iz a female and I can't logick, so let me talk about muh fee fees! and then this: Women actually do like nice guys. No women want's to be abused by assholes. But nice guys just aren't fun and excit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:34 AM
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It's not that you are taking the truth, and just deconstructing all the layers of social conditioning and common politeness. It's that you take kernals of truth, then come to dumbass conclusions. You start with a point, then add layers of bullshit to it. That bullshit is made up of confirmation bias, insecurity, lack of self awareness, a lack of empathy, and all sorts of stuff like that I can't currently think of because its 4:15am and I'm a night shift worker with insomnia.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:14 AM
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Because OP is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:44 AM
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DAE women suck? Now let me illustrate my point with a strawman! Much debate! So good faith!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:42 AM
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TRP starts with a kernal of truth, and then comes to stupid conclusions. Nuance and language are not just irrelevent factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:29 AM
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So the only quality you look for in a woman you're seeking a relationship with is how she makes your pee pee feel? Now tell me, RPers, about how women love opportunistically, how they only love how men make them feel, whereas men's love is pure and unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:21 AM
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Thing is: what do you bring to the table? This is something women constantly demand men to answer, but rarely condescend to answer themselves. "The thing is..." No, the thing we were discussing is not what women bring to the table in relationships. That is an entirely different conversation to be had. The thing being discussed here is about what women are attracted to in a man, and if those things women are attracted to are a testament to male superiority/female inferiority. Now the discussion h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:14 AM
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they have no courage, no wit, no physical strength... This is really the only thing I have for this belief of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:55 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:10 AM
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The truth is that it depends on what demographic the man is from. Strolling through a craft beer fest full of a bunch of upper middle class white hipsters and yuppies: not going to get catcalled. Strolling through a construction site populated by lower income Mexican men: you're going to get catcalled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:12 AM
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I want a man who is confident, a go-getter, who knows what he wants and how to get it. These are things I value in most people, even myself. So how is that me wanting someone who is superior to me? If a man says he wants a woman who is kind, empathetic, driven and motivated to be the best at whatever it is she does (be it a homemaker, a nurse, etc...) is that man seeking a woman who is "better" who is "superior" to him? Why is it when a woman expresses things she desires in a mate you assume it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:57 AM
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By using the word "better," you are establishing a hierarchy in value between men and women. What you are telling me is that women seek men who are superior in value to themselves. Women desire to feel inferior to their men. Why are things that women stereotypically seek in men: taller than her, richer than her, etc... indicative of a superior individual, but the qualities that men stereotypically seek in women: whatever you think they may be, why are these "inferior" qualities? It's like saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:35 AM
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And here you are, saying that we should not use tricks to deal with approach anxiety. Cause then you might mistake us for alphas. Check. No, I didn't day that at all. Stop putting words in my mouth and assuming shit about my position. Then you try to say that women don't actually want a man better than themselves. That they want 'confidence'. Essentially its just the first point, only said differently. No, actually its not the same at all. It assumes that the woman is not confident herself. It a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:40 PM
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I think I mistook you for moodyprism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 10:16 PM
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The argument is that women "want a man who is better than them." I said that you are misinterpreting how women are interpreting the interaction. No one likes to be patronized and made to feel like their time and existence are less valuable. You insist women do like this. I am asserting that women are interpreting the interaction differently than you think they are. Women see it as talking to a man who has a backbone, self respect, and who knows what he wants. This is what women are attracted to,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:24 PM
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I am not discussing a man's approach. I am not a Red Piller discussing what does and doesn't work to get you laid. What I am discussing is /u/moodyprism's assertion that women "want a man who is better than them." My point is that it is quite solipsistic to make that assertion about what the woman is internalizing about the interaction, what her motivations are, because the reality is that the hierarchal struggle is going in the man's head. She is not interpreting it that way. I have no doubt fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:16 PM
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So you have no rebuttal, but can certainly call names and just generally be rude because I'm a contemptible "blooper." Of course. And I'm the one who should get out of here? Go look at nondplume for someone who knows how to hold a mature debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:52 PM
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Nah, you didn't see the answer you wanted. Anytime anyone critcises Red Pillers, many of you come out swinging "You just think we're good for nothing losers!" Stop being so emotional, and address what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:43 PM
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I've never seen anyone argue than men should be in better shape than women. As a matter of fact, I regularly see unfit men demanding nothing less than physical perfection from women. That was the whole basis of that movie Shallow Hal. That's the whole basis of "elbows too pointy 2/10 would not bang." As for your second comment, again, it is a great example of Red Pillers projecting their worldview onto others. Red Pill solipcism. So lets say it is true that women chase after men who are more con…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:41 PM
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Thanks for the non-reply, addressing absolutely nothing I wrote, just reiterating the same thing you initially wrote, which I rebuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:19 PM
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Blue Pill is a circle jerk. I'm talking about these circle jerking questions on here, asked by Red Pillers, for Red Pillers, discussing Red Pill theory, answered by Red Pillers. Take this shit back to your sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:09 PM
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Bullshit. Comments like this are a perfect illustration of why Red Pillers just don't get it. Some of you start to have a limited amount of success with women, certainly more than you did in the past, which at this point, clearly makes you an expert on the female psyche. You now know women better than women know themselves! Yay Red Pill! But then you hit a wall where a new situation presents itself, such as a relationship progressing, and begin to fail miserably, and you don't know why. I love t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:58 PM
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Mmm yes, I love a good Red Pill circle jerk around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 07:45 PM
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The grass is not always greener on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:55 PM
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Probably close to six months.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:54 PM
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You've misunderstood me. It's not that you have to make yourself love someone, like you're trying to fool yourself into feelings things you really don't, but that you are no longer being driven by a purely hormonal reaction to someone. You actually have to make an effort at making your relationship work. That's not a bad thing when you have two people willing to do the same. Not a waste of time or effort at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:53 PM
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No, it is literally the opposite. Crime is down. It is still falling. Crime started increasing in the early 60s, kept increasing into the 80s, and then began declining from there. It's still declining, and we now have similar crime rates as the 60s. Why are you so adament in insisting the opposite is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 06:03 AM
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Because there is no relationship if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:58 AM
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Because I was a nervous wreck. He did have a point. And I was in high school. He was in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:15 AM
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Average teen Average 20s Guy 1 Average 30s guy Average 40s guy Average 50s guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 05:01 AM
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After the first date I ever went on, the guy just stopped talking to me. I garnered up the courage to ask him why, and he said it's because I was so shy and nervous that it made him really uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 04:45 AM
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I've been with the same man for 11 years. The truth is that your feelings for each other do wax and wane. Sometimes, you have to work to make that thing function. We live in a very individualistic society that prizes instant gratification, so people bail when it gets tough, without putting any effort into it. When you are long past that honeymoon phase, you have to chose to want to be with each other, not go off of the high you get from raw hormonal urges. That is what lust is built upon, not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 04:38 AM
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To steal a line from Ferris Bueller, I'm not really a fan of any -isms. I identify as someone who advocates giving everyone equal rights and opportunities, who finds it incomprehensable to treat someone as inferior due to things out of their control such as sex, gender, race, orientation, etc... I do sympathize with feminism, but I believe no ideology is above reproach. Feminism has long been criticized for being a middle class and above white woman's movement. Many feminists have acknowledged t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 04:32 AM
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Hun, 25 years ago was 1991. I specifically addressed that suicides did uptick in the mid-00s. As my source stated, suicide rates were at their highest (in the data set) in the 1950s. They declined all the way until the mid-00s, where they are now at a higher rate than the 1990s, so yes, they are at their highest in 25 years, however they are still lower than they were in the 1950s and 1960s, prefeminism. You say feminism is to blame for the uptick in suicides... Yes, clearly due to the feminist …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 11:18 PM
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Crime rates have been declining for decades and suicide rateswere at their highest in the 1950s, and have declined since (with a slight uptick in the mid-00s). Sorry, Chicken Little, the world isnt caving in because females and their feral nature aren't being kept in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:04 PM
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The communities that have been hit hardest by the breakup of the traditional family unit, in the US at least, are low income, especially low income minorities. Feminism in the US is largely a middle class+ white women's movement. And educated white women are among the group that is least likely to have children out of wedlock as well as among the least likely to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:56 PM
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My husband and I were watching that Rob Dydrek MTV show and a pimple wash commercial comes on. My husband asked why they're having 10 and 11 years olds do these commercials, and I'm like "uhh, those girls are like 15." His mind was blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:50 AM
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Diane Keaton is in her 70s. Not sure if he seriously thinks that's what a woman in her 40s looks like (because I wouldn't put that past RPers) or if he's making joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 01:44 AM
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I'm just not really sure what a puffy arm is. Like chubby arms? I'm envisioning edema here. And don't rely on visibility to find a good vein. Some people you'll never find a thing on them if you just look. You gotta feel for them suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:32 AM
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Puffy arms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 06:22 AM
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Tl;dr you can have a backbone and establish boundaries where you feel.you have been walked on, without being an abusive dick to your significant other. When he says it, he gets thunderous applause from Red Pillers. When I say it, I get downvoted and argued with by Red Pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 01:46 AM
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There are certain looks, for both men and women, that are considered mainstream and attractive. There are certain types of music that reach the top of the charts because it has the most mainstream appealm this does not mean that all people prefer it, just that it's the mist widely appealing. But with that being said, most men, and most women do not live up to the ideal physique, yet plenty of ugly people are in successful relationships. That's because most people are fine with their partner not …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 01:35 AM
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Just let it go. You've lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 09:38 AM
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Well then they wouldn't be hunters if they're doing the gatherers work, now would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 08:45 AM
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Who calls you an asshole and jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:47 AM
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Not all places have cold winters. Yes, things that are edible can be picked year round Did you read what I wrote? Gathers didn't just go out and gather things. They would dress and skin the animal, and prepare the meat. They'd also be the ones making the leather and fur clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:36 AM
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The hunter was more valuable then the gatherer. If a village had too choose who to kill who do you think dies? What's the use of a hunter if there is no one to dress and skin the animal, prepare the meat, make the clothing from the skin and pelts? And meat is a luxury. Humans can survive without meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:25 AM
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Can you give me an example of what treating a woman like an equal looks like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:19 AM
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Just going to reiterate what the_wandering_mind wrote: "TRP promotes this really victim-y mindset that assumes that everyone else is just totally against what they advocate and would persecute them for doing it. Much of the time, the problem is that TRP goes to great lengths to throw in unnecessarily controversial reasons for simple advice. If they left off the reasons (you have to do this because AWALT, for example), it wouldn't be a big deal."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:18 AM
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I once boldly told a man who was hogging all the outlets (like four of them) at the one open table at a coffee shop that I need to use one because other people need to use them, they're not just all his. Am I a tried and true Red Pill Alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:17 AM
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Do you genuinely believe you are more important than them, and that your time is more valuable, or is that a "imagine everyone in their underwear," type scenario? What you are conveying to women is confidence, not arrogance. Do you really think these women are thinking "ooh, he thinks he's better than me and that his time is more valuable than mine... SWOON!" No, these women are seeing someone with a backbone who respects themselves, who isn't (at least doesn't come off as) a brown noser trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 07:08 AM
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You made a joke and conveyed confidence in your ability to answer their question. How is that not treating women as equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 06:58 AM
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Tell me, where do you think I misunderstood his post? Next, being nice is not being a dick to someone. It doesn't mean kissing their ass to try to gain favor. You can go up to a girl, introduce yourself, playfully flirt and tease, etc... I think guys like him still think that not treating a woman like an ethereal goddess who needs nice favors inserted into her so sex falls out, is being a dick. You know how.my husband and I met? We were at a concert and he came up.me, put his hand out, and intro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:10 PM
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A woman who gets punched in the face by her boyfriend is bitter, but she's right when she dumps her boyfriend. But since I'm a guy and I'm bitter somehow I'm wrong and what happened to me only happened to me. Nevermind the many millions of young men who went through the same thing. They're just bitter. I'll tell you what. Next time I hear a woman complain about domestic violence I'll just tell her she's bitter. Woman-up, little girl! No. What you've decided to do is not just be the heartbroken a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 07:59 PM
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So your definition of being "nice" us offering g to buy a girl a drink? Oh dear god. So what is your definition of being a Red Pill dick? And have you ever applied Red Pill advice to anyone and any situations beyond picking up drunk party girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 07:40 PM
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Personal attacks because you know I'm talking the truth. Yes, I spend all this time debating you and other Red Pillers because I believe you are talking the truth. That's exactly it. and now it seems that its fashionable to call every guy autistic when he disagrees with the blue pillers. Fashionable? I've been asserting it for a long time, because its true. And there is no disagreement to be had here. Your baseless theories because you're bitter you got dumped don't hold weight with anyone but y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:55 PM
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No. You've made some observations that have a kernal of truth in the premise, such as correctly pointing out that when people engage in casual sex the criteria for their partner is usually based on just physical attraction, but you come to socially inept, Aspie conclusions that are just plain laughable, such as this translating into all women engage in casual sex (source: your ass), and that cheating is virtually inevitable with women. (source: your ass). And the thing is, with people like you, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 10:23 AM
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"Relationships with women are useless because women suck!" That degenerate straw-whore you made up to represent women as a whole. What a convenient way to hamster your insecurity and fear of abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:53 AM
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It's because you're using the word "dominant," which invokes being controlling, domineering, even abusive. If you worded it like this: "Women like confident, motivated men who make good leaders, who know what they want in life," most people would probably agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:49 AM
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Project that insecurity and fear of abandonment harder, why don't ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:44 AM
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r/TheRedPill is extreme, but when it reflects personal failures, experiences, and observations, its difficult to not agree with it. There's your answer right there, son. You're in a shitty place, so you've found a shitty ideology to confirm the biases of your shitty place. There's an old The Doors song that says "women seem cruel when you're unwanted." You were already beginning to resent women before you found TRP. TRP just fanned those flames, telling you what you want to hear. It's easy to ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:34 AM
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I'd say I'm often guilty of number nine around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 06:22 PM
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I've only had one relationship before the one i am in now, which has lasted 11 years. It lasted a month or so. I was 19, had never had a boyfriend before. He was the first guy to ever show me attention. I ended up breaking up with him because I couldn't deal with his constant criticism of me. The way I dressed, the music I listened to, what I studied in school, etc... it was all just beneath him. He also flirted with other girls in front of me, including an ex whom he went on and on to me after …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:33 PM
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And when he has to declare bankruptcy, and then his debtors start coming after you, consider that only a small price to pay for being a good, submissive little woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 10:04 PM
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PPD actually started out as a very heavily BP populated sub where RPers would frequently get downvoted to hell for abything they wrote. For about the past year or so, its been opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 09:31 PM
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Again, as I stated, being a member of a hate group is not just a simple lifestyle difference that I disagree with. And yes, I know many RPers are incredulous that I characterize the RP as such. No group considers themselves a hate group. Not even the KKK or ISIS. And many RPers have made it.clear that "AWALT" does include your precious mother, sisters, grandmother, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 07:23 PM
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Lol, taking this a tad bit personal, huh? This is the second time in a day that I've had a Red Piller on here getting butthurt over me expressing an opinion with which you disagree, when I was asked for it, BTW, because you've taken it personally, so you turn around and accuse me of getting emotional. Newsflash: Calling people with whom you disagree "emotional" is not a trump card. And I don't care what RPW have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 06:05 PM
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TRP is a hate group. You can spin it however you want, but it is a hate group. If my son's happiness depends on him believing women are subhuman degenerates, he has no place in my life. But I have a hard time believing that most RPers are happy. This is not about a simple philosophical difference, and me being "selfish and stuck in my ways," like I'm some conservative old grandma whose granddaughter is dating a black guy. Its about the hypothetical of my son becoming a disgusting, hateful, creti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 05:45 PM
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If he decided to become an unapologetic member of a hate group, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:33 PM
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I would feel like a failure as a parent. I want so much better for my son. I would confront him and try to help him past what is hopefully just a phase of poor judgement. If he is adamant in his membership in the community, he would no longer be welcomed in my home knowing that he views myself, his sister, and his grandmothers in such a hateful and dehumanizing way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:01 PM
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Mmmhmm, and how was I being emotional? The reason you accused me of being emotional is because I was allegedly downvoting you, which I wasn't. You're the one getting butthurt about karma points and throwing out accusations. Talk about emotional. You can knock off with the name calling. Anyway, and what study are you referring to? You see, I found one study that came out in 1995 that only studied American women. It was actually my mistake to say they found that promiscuous people are more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 08:20 AM
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Studies show that promiscuous people get divorced more. And cool it with the butthurt accusations about your precious karma. I don't downvote, but I'd be happy to put you at zero, considering you're currently at +1, now that you mention it. You responded to me with nothing but a smartass, sarcastic jab, and then accused me of "emotionally" taking away your pretend Internet points. As a matter of fact, you rarelt eveb addresse any of the points anyone brings up here, you just come here to make sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:55 AM
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I love how anecdotal evidence is perfectly acceptable when Red Pillers talk about their beliefs, but when us "bloopers" do it: fuck you and your anecdotes!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:38 AM
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Oh, OK, to make generalizations about an ideological group's ideology, I have to have interviewed every last one of them. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 10:38 PM
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Slut shaming is when you want to.make a woman feel ashamed and guilty about her promiscuity, often with desire to humiliate her. Slut shaming is when you subscribe to the notion than a promiscuous women is a worthless, degenerate human being. This is what is generally referred to when people talk about slut shaming, not you expressing your preference for a chaste partner. Additionally, people tend to align themselves with people who share their values. Chaste women, for the most part, are not go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 10:37 PM
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So your logic is that women care more about people's opinion of their promiscuity than men do, because as of 2012, women place more value on relationships than men, compared to the opposite result in 1997... So by your logic, men would have been more upset with being viewed as a slut in 1997 than women at the time, since men placed more value on relationships than women at that time?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 10:01 PM
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My second paragraph was meant to address exactly what Villaintain wrote because I knew someone was going to say it. And BS RPers believe there is an AMALT, unless of course it is saying how honor, integrity, honesty, etc... are male abstracts. As I wrote, AWALT is a way to attribute bad behavior to inherent female pathology in direct comparison to male behavior. You can
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:56 PM
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And what are you basing this assertion on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:33 PM
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So then should women care?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:31 PM
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Reread my second paragraph there, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 09:29 PM
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How do you feel about women making the same judgement about you: they'll fuck/you, but you're poor LTR material?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:33 PM
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But it sounds sciencey, and you can't argue with science!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:27 PM
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Because the debate that OP put forth is gasp! in bad faith and shows that he really isn't interested in debate at all, but rather circle jerking and arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:26 PM
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Red Pillers buy this notion that men are the gatekeepers of commitment, whereas women are gatekeepers of sex. It's incomprehensible to them that a woman could be having sex just to have sex. And if men are the gatekeepers of commitment, then no man has ever had his heart broken by a woman who doesn't want him? LOL, yall know that's not true. This is why not is wise to realize the world is a bit more of a nuanced.place than the black and white, easily digestible quips TRP will lead you to believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:25 PM
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Because it's none of you're fucking business. Treating a girl like shit and shaming her because she won't sleep with you makes you look like a bitter little shit who is pissed off that he can't control women and their vaginas. And stop with this "when these sluts are ready to settlw down, they'll come running to us betas for commitment!" No, the fact is, even when these women are ready to settle down, they still won't want you. My best friend is a huge slut. She's been with probably 80 men. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:19 PM
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I'm always suspicious of women who talk about how they want to be submissive to a man, because in my observation, all these women just try to wield power passive aggressively. It's human.nature to want power. What I am referring to when I call my relationship equal is recognizing that we both have our strengths and weaknesses, so my opinion and call reigns supreme in some avenues, and his reigns supreme in others. So when I hear women say "I defer to him," I wonder if that means they defer to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:13 PM
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On one hand, RPers talk about how men are the dominant doers by natue, its in their biology, and women are submissive takers, observers, whatever you want to call it. It is a very popular sentiment among RPers that they want their females to be submissive to them. So here we have someone describing men being in a dominant role, and women in a submissive role. They're not saying its necessarily a good or bad thing, just, that's how it is. Yet you characterize it as "men being disillusioned with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:01 PM
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Because the man initiating things is a modern phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 07:34 PM
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I didn't say he was a terper. I said he was looking at the situation with a RP lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:45 AM
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Yeah, fuck off with your patronizing strawman. This is a forum to discuss and debate RP beliefs, so me characterizing OP's beliefs as being influenced by TRP is not out of line and unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 02:42 AM
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My husband is not lazy, unmotivated, or irresponsible. When he got laid off almost 4 years ago now, he fell into a depression spiral where he became lazy, unmotivated, and irresponsible. He completely acknowledges his behavior during that time. But anyway, nowhere does it say that most women whose husbands lose their jobs, divorce them. And as is the purpose of me sharing my story, don't be so quick to apply a RP lense to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:36 PM
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Except this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 11:32 PM
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It's one thing to be weary of the possible mental health issues that can arise from being a victim of trauma, and recognizing that you would not be a good partner to deal with those things. It's the guys who take the stance that"women who have been raped are useless, damaged goods. I can understand why some cultures participate in honor killings of these women" who are assholes. Would any of you take the stance that it would be understandable to honor kill men returning from war who suffer PTSD,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 10:22 PM
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This is a different subject that job loss and divorce, but I'll weigh in. The majority of men won't date a woman who is fat and/ugly, a woman who doesn't get his dick hard. The majority of men do not base their desire for a woman they are interested in dating entirely on who she is on the inside. Men and women are still valued for different things in our culture. Men are valued for their paychecks and power, women, for their looks and sex appeal. This is a core tenant of TRP, which I do not enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:59 PM
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OMG, no. I am not saying ANYTHING about men and why they lose their jobs. I'm not saying anything about men at all. It's not that my writing is not clear, its that you have poor reading comprehension. What I am saying is that it's bullshit for you to look at some vague facts, like "job loss is a significant cause of divorce," and use that as an illustration that the majority of women only love opportunistically, that they don't really love their boyfriends/husbands, they love what he can do for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:38 PM
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What the hell are you going on about? You used the fact that job loss is a common reason for divorce to illustrate your point that a woman's love is selfish and conditional on what a man can do for her, as if a man comes home, tells his wife he lost his job, and she bails because he is no longer if use to her. I told my story to show that there is, in many cases, another side to the story, and quite a bit of nuance rather than women being selfish and opportunistic, incapable of genuine love. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:15 PM
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I explained in my reply to OP about how my husband's job loss nearly cost us our marriage. But it wasn't the job loss itself that caused problems, it was how he reacted to it. It was how he handled it, which is what caused the problem. He sat around for months making virtually no effort to change his plight. I was working full time, and he wouldn't even bother to help with the housework. He was home with our daughter all day, and I'd come home at 3pm and she'd ask me for food, because he couldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:55 PM
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please explain what the word "love" means to you. I think love is a bit of nebulous concept that can be defined somewhat differently from person to person. For me, I've been with my husband for 11 years, which includes two job losses on his part. I love him, in that he is my best friend, my partner in crime, someone whom I could not imagine my life without. I'd do just about anything for him. Have we had our ups and downs? Certainly. The first time he lost his job, it put a severe strain on our …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:37 PM
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I loled
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:51 PM
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You are bound and determined to justify your attraction to kids, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 02:32 AM
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Oh dear god, no. Unless a woman had a baby between those years, which often does affect the appearance of breasts, the smallest effects of gravity and collagen breakdown of the skin starts to be visible around the early 30s with fine lines and wrinkles on the face. The body doesn't start showing noticible change until the 40s. So take your pseudoscience and pedophilia and shove it upnyour ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 11:12 PM
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If that were the case, no one would catch things like melanoma. You are the person who is most likely to notice subtle changes with your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 11:12 PM
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That's not what anyone has an issue with The issue people have an issue with is when you wax poetic about how this is the natural way of relationships, that it's the only way a relationship can be successful, that the vast majority of women want and need this sort of dynamic because "they want a man who is superior to them," and when you use this dynamic as a excuse to be abusive, because many tactics masquerading as this discussed and encouraged on TRP do cross into the abusive territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:16 PM
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If you want to bang beautiful women, and occasionally land one, good on you, but don't get all pissy and butthurt toward the women who reject you because they didn't give you what you feel you're entitled to. That's where the problem comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 06:32 PM
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I don't. Red Pillers just hang out with some boring ass bitches because ones who aren't wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. I think a general difference between men and women when it comes to planning activities is the women are more likely to take into account social relations when it comes to planning activities. A few months ago one of my favorite Red Pillers was once again talking about how is wife is a more a less a dumbass in a conversation about how women cannot figure out how to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:50 AM
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Telling a girl she is attractive can be the icing on the cake of a flirty conversation with her. The problem some guys run into is that they think they can base whole conversation around it: "Hey, you're gorgeous." "Uh, thanks....." And she moves on because a lot of guys do just leave it at that. But if a guy can back that compliment up with more than just that one observation about her looks, then it is perfectly acceptable to flirt with a woman like that. The conscious part of their minds can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:43 AM
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Women who don't believe they're inferior, intellectual and moral degenerates who are only good for birthing and getting fucked: self serving and myopic. If that makes me self serving and myopic, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 09:19 PM
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Makes sense, as you're aware of what I look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 05:01 AM
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Yes, I'm sure it seems that way when the only interaction you have with these women is from watching porn and hate browsing their social media, making up narratives about their lives to make it easier to swallow hating them because you can't have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 03:40 AM
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Sure, sketchy ass women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 01:43 AM
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True: People tend to look for the best partner possible, and if attraction wanes for their partner, this can spell trouble for the relationship. False: Relationships with women are always standing on a precarious ledge because women will drop you like a bad habit the second they feel someone better than you has come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:32 PM
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It's entirely fair to criticize feminism. No ideology is above criticism. Are there some female surepremacists within the movement? Sure. Are there some man-haters within the movement? Yeah. But the whole part about feminism being a female surpremacist movement as evidenced by the fact (according to you) that women have never been oppressed and have always been more privledged than men: no. Bringing up that men have indeed faced adversity due to their gender does not change the fact that women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 09:22 PM
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An endless complaining monologue about something stupid because of feelz with a pokerface on is still a tantrum. Awww yiss it is, and its a perfect description of the holding frame, withdrawing affection, stoicism, swaggering off to lift and pretending ike you don't care, or whatever it is TRP advocates for men to do when your female disobeys you and it rustles your jimmies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:13 PM
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I believe it exists, I just don't agree with how TRP defines it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:09 PM
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I actually learned about this on Jezebel, of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 11:05 PM
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TRP predicates a lot of their interaction with women based on the assumption that women are absolutely clueless to being manipulated. One of my favorite things to read from RPers is them going on asktrp or marriedredpill panicking over their wife/girlfriend not falling for their shit, or more hilariously,.calling them out on it. approaches and teases you about something, then winks or smiles so you know he's not trying to be mean. It just shows he doesn't take things seriously and isn't kissing …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 10:57 PM
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You guys want to believe so badly that the average woman will degrade herself for the right man, and if you can just become that right men, then you too can treat women like shit, and they'll love it. The truth is, squirt, is that what you're seeing a dysfunctional relationship that will likely end sooner rather than later. Women leave cheating spouses and significant others all the time, but the times when they do stick around: see women really do love being treated that way!! It's delusion and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 06:24 PM
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What is the definition of "fuckboy" that y'all are using? To be synomous with "player?" I would describe a fuckboy as an obnoxious little shit who thinks he's king shit, but in reality, he's more words than action, ala Red Pillers. As for players, men who "pump and dump" women, isn't it a biotruth that men just want to spread their seed everywhere? Now all of a sudden it's a symptom of female degeneracy. As I always say, according to TRP, women are always wrong. If a man does something wrong, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 05:45 PM
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Women are the primary consumers of pop music, so it caters to their desires. Same with the television industry these days. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 05:38 PM
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No, don't tell me what the intent of my comment was. The original intent of my comment, which is still the intent of my comment, is that when Red Pillers assert these analysises of the social realities of dynamics that women experience, they are only looking at a very narrow type of woman, and projecting that onto all women, or most women. Relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:17 PM
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In wider society, slut shaming and virgin shaming are OK, and it happens all the time. Also, no man has ever been threatened or brualized just for being a virgin. Women have been, and are threatened and brutalized.for being deemed a slut. Personally, I think both are wrong, and so do most feninists., which is where the concept of toxic masculinity comes from: this idea that men must be pussy slaying emotional potatoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:55 PM
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So what? TRP are purveyors that men and women are very different from each other, and want very different things from the opposite sex, so why then are they applying what men want from women, to the experiences of women? These types of men are thirsty for any female attention, so they think if women are getting any male attention at all, it is better than a man getting no female attention at all. But its comparing apples to oranges if you believe men and women want very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:50 PM
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Oh, OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:46 PM
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And you guys are going to have to do better than the fictional scenarios you make up in your heads about the experiences of young women while hate-masturbating over girls' Facebook pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:34 PM
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I'm not saying nerdy women are literally invisible, but that Red Pillers are sexually attracted to a certain type of woman (young, bleach blonde sorority party girl types,) and that they are hyper focused on the lifestyle of these women, but refuse to recognize that that is not even remotely how most women live.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:28 PM
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My apologies for asserting that I, a woman in her 20s, know more about the social dynanics of women in this age range than a 40-something year old man with an ax to grind with this group. How silly of me. Please, bestow on us all your expertise and infinite wisdom on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 07:24 PM
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Oh, well that settles it, then. Hey everybody, this guy knows some average girls with social lives! The fact is, you guys are a bunch of sour grapes seeing the world through a distorted view, making up your own narratives about other people's lives to justify the daily rage cocktail that you sip on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:35 PM
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Nah, they're never going to date you, even when they're post-wall hags. Sorry, but you're not going to get your revenge on the hot girls who refused.to fuck you in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:26 PM
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You're only considering handful of conventionally attractive, extroverted party girls, and are operating on a bit of a stereotype about them, too. There is a scene in the movie She's All That where the nerdy girl is sitting on the ledge of a fountain eating her lunch. A guy comes up and sits on her, and says "oh, um sorry, I didn't see you there," because she was invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:23 PM
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I don't think any woman who gets in a relationship with Leo thinks she's in it for the long haul. Leo's relationships are more like arrangements: he bangs his 6 foot tall blonde models, they get their name out there and the lifestyle that comes along with associating with him for the time being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:20 AM
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I'd say the type are women who are attracted to these very high rolling, high status men are more likely to be OK with that type of arrangement rather than women are in general are OK with being cheated in if you are high enough status. Your comment is a great example of how the socially inept (Red Pillers) try to make sense of social phenomena, and just really fall hard and far from the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:37 PM
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Nope, child porn isn't expensive. There are literally that many men who are into it. There was a study done that founds that 45% of men have fantasized about being forced into sex or raped by a woman. Lol. 45.8% of men in a 1980 study reported fantasizing during heterosexual intercourse about "a scene where [they had] the impression of being raped by a woman" Source But in regards to women, surveys shows that anywhere from 30 to 90% of women have had rape fantasies. Which means that there is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:21 PM
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Child pornography and the trafficking of young children is a multibillion dollar industry so...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:07 PM
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You ever read Fritzl's letters? I've read news reports that Arias gets love letters in prison. You've read news reports that Fritzl does, too. But, for reasons, yours is an example of how women are attracted to insane murderers, and mine is not. You are not interested in a debate or having your view changed. You have made up your mind, and anything that contradicts it is wrong, and you will do whatever mental gymnastics necessary to prove make your point. I could state that the sky is blue, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:05 PM
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You're probably a troll with that last line, but if not, so you're suggesting that all, or at least most women want to be in an abusive relationship because dark romance books exist? Child pornography exists, and a lot of men consume it. Therefore, all men want to have sex with six year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:00 PM
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Oh, so you've read most of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:53 PM
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And your proof that the only men who are successful with women are those who are cold and abusive is 50 Shades of Gray.... Mmmhmmm...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:51 PM
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Jodi Arias also gets tons of love letters in jail from men. This clearly suggests that men want batshit insane women willing to murder them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 07:45 PM
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He's conventionally very attractive. Not really my type, though. I bet he's super Christian. I would consider this dude to be average, although I bet he could look above average if he lost some weight and did something with the bad facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:21 PM
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2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 6
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:14 PM
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One defense I see from Red Pillers is the "we're not talking about men, we're just talking about women" defense, yet when they say the things about women that the do, its usually in the context of a direct comparison to men e.g. women stop maturing and growing as people in their teenaged girls, whereas men grow and mature their whole lives. Women love conditionally, whereas men love unconditionally.. Women are boring, have no hobbies, and only reflect those of the men they are into. Men are natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 08:05 PM
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*Results are not typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:18 AM
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It seems that the majority of women do not want men to abandon their gender role. Despite claims that women would be happy with a SAHD, u/coratoad and I determined from available studies from the 70s-80s (unfortunately, fewer more recent without some sort of cultural Marxist bias) that the majority of women still want a man of either the same level of socioeconomic status or higher. Hypergamy on the base level. Call this internalised misogyny if you retain feminist sentiments. I agree. Men are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:21 PM
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No one, at least I didn't, claim that gender roles are 100% a social construct, which seems to be what you;re trying to argue against. What I said, and what you objected to, is that there are several reasons why women have contributed differently to humanity than men have, and many of those reasons are indeed social in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 10:00 PM
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I'm asking how any of this is relevant to anything being discussed. Again, the assertion is that women have not contributed to humanity in the same way men have because they are inherently incompetent at any role aside from childbearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:58 PM
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I want you to go way back, to the beginning of our conversation, and tell me how any of this is relevant to anything I asked. What brought me into this discussion was AbraiveAsshole claiming that women are incapable of building and maintaining society, and that save for childbearing, they are useless. Myself and others pointed out that there are many factors, including many social ones, which describe why women have contributed to humanity differently than men, that don't boil down to women bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:32 PM
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So the dynamics of Middle Eastern cultures from within the last few thousand years are "default" cultures based on biological premises....? You haven't brought up anything that demonstrates human biology or default settings of how humans are supposed to be, or whatever it is you are arguing a default setting is in regards to culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:49 PM
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But you do see heavy variance. And as soon as women were freed from the biological restraint of child bearing and rearing, birth rates plummet, often to below replacement levels. The female education level and participation in the work force skyrockets. The reasons why humans are such a successful species is that we are much more complex than what our biology says we should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:36 PM
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I'm challenging your claim that women are being given significantly more advantages than men, and that men are being significantly disadvantaged in favor of women, because of all those things you listed. Where is your proof that women receive more scholarships than men, etc... Again, I invoke my example with race. Many people argue that people of color are given all the opportunity whites have, plus additional ones, like access to scholarships for people of color only, affirmative action, job fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 10:15 PM
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Female-only scholarships, bursaries, STEM-campaigns, women-in-the-workforce hiring campaigns and gender quotas, all of these things give women enormous advantages on top of their inherent advantages for being female. Can you cite me anything that suggest that any of these things actually give women, as a whole, enormous advantages over men? What I mean by this is that people may see certain advantages for one group, and think they are more advantaged in general, while ignoring the still dispropo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:50 PM
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No one here is arguing that women had worse lives than men, but rather that there are indeed factors, many of them being social, that saw, and even still today see women taking on different roles, and contributing to society differently than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:38 PM
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Yeah, when will you dumb feminists and white knights get it through your head that women are useless and irrelevent? Unlike AbrasiveAsshole. He is a valuable human being, goddammit!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:30 PM
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Are these the things you tell yourself to boost your self esteem? Do you wake up in the morning and pat yourself on the back for having a penis, knowing that that fact makes you automatically superior than 50% of the population, and basically puts you on the same tier as the Einsteins and Tesla's?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 07:27 PM
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You defend people physically weaker than you. Defending someone stronger than you is virtually pointless. My husband can defend himself better than I can defend him, trying to jump in between him and another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 05:43 AM
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I didn't say anything about older women and younger men getting married... at all. Yet, according to a RPer, I've given an irrational argument about that subject. Relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 01:42 AM
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And what was the strawman I presented? Anyway, arguing that if most older men were billionaires, they'd probably be marrying much younger women, is entirely irrelevent. If you want to sit here discussing what society would looks like if entirely impossible hypotheticals were to happen, we could play that game back and forth all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 10:15 PM
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That formula is supposed to be to figure out if someone is too young for you, not your ideal mate. Most 32 year old women are not jonsing for a dude in his 50s. Again, this is just old dude wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:13 PM
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And I know a 17 year old guy who thinks 50-something year old Nigela Lawson is hot. The average 17 year old girl is not all about Harrison Ford. Try more like Zayn Malik and Justin Bieber. That is so much wishful thinking its hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:08 PM
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Yes, when it comes to sexual attraction, men do prefer youth. But here is where TRP gets it wrong: No, women do not start looking like haggard old ogres at 25, with their looks and sex appeal being dead and gone by age 30. There are some, like Lindsay Lohan, who look haggard at 30, because she's a coke head prostitute who tans. But then there are the Amanda Seyfrieds, Emily Kinneys, Anna Kendricks, Lea Seydouxs, Miranda Kerrs, who look fantastic. When older women are asked at what age they stopp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 08:01 PM
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How would you feel about it if your child's teacher was a radical feminist/leftist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:25 AM
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Throw Martin Shkreli in on that, too. Dude apparently offered his ex $10,000 to go down on her, and she was like "lol, no thanks."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 05:07 PM
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I'm a Blue Piller, and OP asked specifically about The Blue Pill sub "Where do subs like TBP..." I was speaking on behalf of the content on that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 08:12 PM
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No. You see, this is one of the reasons why PPD is so fucking frustrating. You guys get it in your head what your opposition's stance is, and you keep running with it, even if they say, over and over and over again, that that is not what their stance is. I hate to invoke fallacies like an asshole, but that is the very definition of a strawman. I specifically said in my last response that I was referring to Red Pillers, and that I am not real familar with the content of justneckbeardthings, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:25 PM
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So if someone said to you, "you have a nice nose, it doesn't look the least bit Jewy!" you wouldn't find that in bad taste?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:51 PM
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In terms of calling "nice guys" entitled, what is meant is that many of these guys express confusion, and then most importantly, outrage, over being rejected by a girl whom they were pursuing. They believe that they held up their end of the deal by being friendly toward her, and she fucked him over by not having sex with him/being his girlfriend. They feel entitled to her romantic affections.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:40 PM
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The poster above me said "fuck you" to me and called me a dipshit. But yes, I'm the angry one here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 06:35 PM
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So you're saying that it's wrong for men to treat women like shit, but when women do it's acceptable? I've got two words for you my friend. Nope, not what I'm saying at all, so fuck you. I'm saying that if you're a fat, neckbeard virgin, and you subscribe to an ideology where you wax poetic about how you're superior to women just by virtue of having a penis, and that you're an expert on the female psyche, sex, and relationships, you're going to get called out for being full of shit. It's not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 03:57 PM
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Um, he actually did literally say its easy to hate women in that Red Pill post, not simply that it's understandable that one would get a negative view on women when immersing oneself in a men's forum. I had a lengthy PM convo with Archwinger's right after that. He calls himself a proud misogynist, is the moderator of a sub called /r/femalehate, and really meant that its easy to hate women, and understandable, because all they have to offer is their ability to give boners. He really does hate wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:51 PM
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He said it's easy to hate women, even understandable, because the only thing they have to offer is their ability to give boners. And you really don't understand how that is degrading and dehumanizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:32 PM
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You can teach men to have a backbone, to put your best foot forward in every facet of life, and stop this unrealistic worship of women, without the "all women are degenerate whores who have no redeeming qualities besides being a series of holes for your pleasure." That is literally the only problem I have with TRP. Just because you take women off the pedestal does not mean you need to shit on them. You just go from one, unhealthy, extreme view of women, to another. And no, this is not me just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:20 PM
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It's attacking the hateful, harmful, ideology of men who feel weak and powerless, and choose to take their insecurity out on others. Nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:11 PM
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What answer do you want? "Well, I think TBP falls at about a 3.4 on the punching-down scale."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:09 PM
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It’s easy to hate them. To look down on them. In fact, The Red Pill encourages a negative view of women. Why? Because when you see women as non-unique, non-special beings, each one defined primarily by how much of a boner her appearance creates. [Source](np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3w919o/women_are_as_shitty_as_you_let_them_be/) Ciswhitemaelstrom, an EC, refers to women as "quasi-humans." There are countless, countless examples. Just look for the threads, even on here, where RPers are as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:07 PM
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You claim that women stay in abusive relationships because they want a man who is higher value than herself (we'll get to that in a minute). According to you, a woman defines a high value man as being aggressive and dominant. So, a man who is being aggressive and dominant in a relationship, aka being abusive, is attractive to a woman, which is why women stay with abusive men. Because women crave that alpha shit. Now you are saying women don't crave that, that they want a man who is aggressive an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:00 PM
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So your argument is that women see physically and emotionally abusive men as "high status" because they are physically and emotionally abusive, aka aggressive and dominant. Dear. Fucking. God.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:21 PM
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I love how the top eight answers are just circle jerking from RPers: "They're not just punching down, they're a bunch of bullies who stomp on and piss on the corpse!" To answer your question, OP, I'm just going to reiterate what /u/imhereforthemeta wrote: It isn't "haha, you are a fat, unkempt guy who lives with his mom", it's "haha you are a fat, unkempt guy who lives with his mom and still have a smug superiority complex that manifests itself into heavy handed internet sexism". it's hilarious …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:14 PM
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Why are you assuming I am white? Because you use a lot of white nationalist talking points. They aren't. They are dropping in the countries that have their shit together and not in the back asswards parts of the world. This is just a simple Google search. They are dropping even in the shit hole countries. Worldwide, we'll see a total birthrate drop below the replacement rate in our lifetime. I meet new people and interact with them everyday. I own a business where face to face dealings are musts…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 02:27 AM
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Einstein had a full time clerk job? Ya got me. That's so much more time consuming than being the full time, main caregiver of eight children. And a white man was born into less than ideal circumstances? Lol, that just illustrates how, even though Hamilton was born without a lot of privilege that just being a white man was still enough of a leg up to achieve what he did. The fact is that life is not fair. We do not all have equal footing, and things are often not as simple as a meritocracy. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 07:46 PM
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And I'm one wrist flick away from vehicular homicide.... Am I a de facto murderer? Just because someone has thought something doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:41 PM
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Is this your own personal experience, or are you just taking the manosphere's word for how women and men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:10 PM
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And most people have thought about flicking their wrist slightly so to plow their car into a guardrail at 70mph. What's your point? Your mom, sisters, grandma, etc... are all secret whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:05 PM
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Tis the crux of The Red Pill, no?: I want to tame and control women to my fancy, but they're virtually uncontrollable and untamable. And that's scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:54 PM
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The irony is arranged marriages tend tobe more successful. And yet another failure on your part to consider the social context of these facts. Yes, arranged marriages tend to have lower divorce rates.... because societies that practice arranged marriages tend to at least vehemently shun, or at worst downright ban divorce. Divorce was practically unheard before the 1960s in the US. And we all.know that was because everyone was just happy as clams in their marriages! Women absolutely need children…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:34 PM
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It's amazing how you define things that men excel at, such as speed and strength, as markers of being a superior creature. If that is the case, I guess ants, elephants, and common housecats are superior to humans, as all those critters outperform humans in speed and/or strength. Being able to carry, birth, and nuture life, having a stronger immune system, being able to weather famine better, etc... never get touted as being superior, but I'm sure if men possessed any of these qualities, they'd b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:30 PM
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When I was pregnant I was given a chart that shows fertility and age. At 28, 29, fertility starts decreasing by like 0.01% a year. I'd hardly describe that as the fertikity window drying up. It keeps on that pace until age 35, when the dramatic decline occurs, and IIRC, it was about 3% a year until 40, when another significant decline occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 05:36 PM
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The relevance is that I think you're basing your opinion on this issue on nothing but strawman, hypothetical, and gossip that you've read on manosphere websites and forums with an agenda, rather than real, concrete experiences. As I stated, I've found that people of similar values pair up with people of similar values. Promiscuous men pair up with promiscuous women. Chaste men pair up with chaste women. I think there are some people out there, men and women, who are good at fast, tumultuous roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 12:21 AM
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Is this an issue you have truly run into in real life, or is this sentiment of yours the result of the he-said, he-said and hypothetcal online content of the communities to which you subscribe to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 12:06 AM
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And you're basing these assertions on what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 06:03 PM
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People tend to pair up with those who share their values. Promiscuous women get married all the time, and it's not usually to guys with little sexual experience. This whole "sluts spend their prime years riding the carousel, and then come crawling back to the beta nice guys they refused to fuck back when" is little more than Red Pill, beta nice guy fantasy of these "post wall sluts" getting their comeuppance for not sleeping with them, and now the beta nice guy has the upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:05 PM
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I can handle crass, locker room talk. The whole "women are subhumans who are morally and intellectually inferior to men in every way imaginable, who are only good for their holes, who will get their comeuppance when they are erradicated when the sexbot revolution happens," is what I have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 03:24 PM
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