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15

this is what I found, doesn't look promising.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/16 02:53 PM
2

I've experienced problems like this in relationships before. Porn is certainly correlated, but I'm not sure if it necessarily is the core of the issue. In my experience, I have acted like this at times when looking back, it seems like my partner seems to "expect" sex as something that I do to her, and less of sex as something that flows naturally from mutual flirtation. Feeling like sex is expected of me puts me a completely different frame of mind than when I'm unsure exactly if sex will happen…
/r/RedPillWives23/06/16 06:42 PM
3

Any harassing messages should also be reported to the admins via modmail on /r/reddit.com and email at [email protected].
/r/RedPillWives27/04/16 05:34 PM
1

^
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:35 PM
-1

Try to share pity for the ex with the girl over how pathetic he is. Suggest that you find somewhere private.
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:19 PM
3

I can't, without making myself look like a bigger asshole. Ok, good thing I already got that out the way myself...
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 10:16 PM
5

I can't, without making myself look like a bigger asshole. To be honest, I don't give a fuck if someone who has completely different views on delayed gratification and diligence than me, has a 5th kid they can't feed. I say fuck it, let them starve on the streets. You'd probably end up with the same amount of people starving now, after people adjusted their behavior, but the transition would not be pretty. People are nothing but dumb animals who like to pretend they're better than the forces of …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 10:10 PM
4

"Oh, but what of the poor children!" screamed liberals, women, and the feeble-hearted all in unison! "Who would leave them to starve on the streets?!?!"
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 08:04 PM
1

I don't believe you've ever seen a feminist quoting Thomas Sowell.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 05:42 PM
2

Look here
/r/PussyPassDenied10/11/15 08:25 PM
1

The one that shows that bad to normal looking guys get messaged way more than their female counterparts?
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 06:52 PM
2

I don't... I understand 100% what really attractive women receive and what this does to their personalities... but not everyone woman is a "really attractive" attention whore.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 05:57 PM
40

You RP guys have a lot of good insights... but it seems as if you generalize all women as the hot going out type? There are plenty of women who aren't all over social media and the club scene, and plenty more who are just average in looks, and about even 50% of which aren't attractive enough to get any male attention whatsoever.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 05:38 PM
1

No, you're right I read a separate article which painted a different picture.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 04:25 AM
-8

Thats a good point and it wasn't in the article I read.
/r/MensRights08/10/15 03:05 AM
-13

Thats possible but you shouldn't force those feelings on him.
/r/MensRights08/10/15 12:15 AM
-18

Which means you probably shouldn't force feelings of victimization onto him. In what world is it ok to make someone feel like they've been traumatized when they haven't?
/r/MensRights07/10/15 11:32 PM
-26

I agree, but I think rather than everyone freaking out and forcing feelings of victimization onto potentially well-adjusted recipients of this type of contact, we should set an example and approach things with a less hysterical manner.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 08:57 PM
-31

What evidence do we have to support the notion that the child will be negatively affected by this experience?
/r/MensRights07/10/15 08:45 PM
2

To be honest I had an affair with an older woman as a child and I look back on it as a positive experience. I think much of the over-reaction to female child "victims" is couched in sexism, religiousity and the mythos of female virginity.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 08:17 PM
3

Most of the women I meet my age are either looking to do the serious family track thing, or are complete party girls not really in my circle. I have much better luck with the 21-25 crowd.
/r/seduction27/09/15 02:48 PM
12

Run, not worth it.
/r/seduction27/09/15 02:47 PM
10

I'm turning 30 next month. I have a 20 year old sitting naked in my bed as I get some work done before we head to a music fest. I think a lot about getting married and having kids, but I haven't met the right woman yet. I'm just living life.
/r/seduction27/09/15 02:32 PM
0

What happens when you try to go for round 2?
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/15 03:28 PM
2

Have a brain. Be genuinely interested in his hobbies/interests. Help him with stuff. Add value to his life. TBH if he's sexually interested in you his brain is going to stay on sex until he fucks you. That doesn't mean anything good or bad about seeing you beyond that.
/r/RedPillWomen09/09/15 09:14 PM
8

You'll have to ask the head banners about that one. Please send modmail to /r/reddit.com, and email [email protected].
/r/PussyPassDenied30/07/15 11:48 PM
86

The dozens of UVA articles they've posted, the hedge fund manager they harassed, Paul Nungesser (target of the "Mattress Girl") among dozens of others. They are serial harassers, but the admins look the other way because of SJW bullshit.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/07/15 06:35 PM
53

They drive tons of harassment towards targets of false allegations.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/07/15 06:25 PM
142

It's not a witch hunt when /r/twoxchromosomes does it
/r/PussyPassDenied30/07/15 01:50 PM
-10

It sounds like you're completely ignorant to the vast majority of human history, as well as being a disgusting racist. People like you ruin everything.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 04:57 PM
-4

Offense cannot be given, only taken. You are not allowed to tell someone how they do or should feel about a word. Redneck and cracker are extremely offensive to a number of people. You aren't allowed to invalidate their experience.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 04:08 PM
-12

I never expected to see so many idiot racists in this sub. It's SJW heaven at the moment.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 03:48 PM
-10

You'd have to take the cock out first before anything else would fit in there.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 03:39 PM
-42

because most people who use the word redneck as an insult are white Sorry to break it to you, you disgusting racist, but most people who say nigger are black.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 03:35 PM
-15

Yeah, the difference is racists only get a stick up their ass if you're mean to black people. #killallmen isn't sexist either let me tell you. You people are fucking disgusting.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 03:35 PM
-18

Redneck, cracker, gringo, etc. Exact same thing as porch-monkey, welfare-recipient, nigger, etc. If this doesn't make sense to you, you're probably a huge fucking racist.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 03:22 PM
-58

Do you call everyone who uses the word "redneck" racist as well?
/r/PussyPassDenied05/06/15 02:55 PM
29

That is a major risk that we just don't need to deal with. On top of that, these people also seem to have very low productivity, and take constructive criticism very poorly. Nothing about it makes it seem like a smart decision.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 06:44 AM
63

I serve as de facto HR director at my company. If I get any inclination that an applicant is active with social justice it gets trashed immediately.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 01:31 AM
2

I like seeing sex as a "reward" and not an obligation. Sex to me is most exciting when I'm not sure if I'm going to get it. This is why just starting to date someone is so exciting... you don't know whats going to happen and neither person feels like the other owes anyone anything. I have a major problem in relationships that I've been working on where I really care for my SO, but I don't feel turned on by them, especially if sex is expected. You going out of your way to wear sexy outfits etc is…
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/15 02:33 PM
5

I feel like you have a lot of deep jealousy and insecurity issues related to low self-esteem, but this is a common issue and you shouldn't let it get you down. Youre admit it and youre committed to working on it which is amazing. For some reason you have placed confidence in texting, maybe likely because it's just something that you associate with happy times with him. Text him randomly during the day when you have something relevant you think he may like. It might help reopen that pathway while…
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/15 10:28 PM
1

Create value and build self-esteem.
/r/seduction19/05/15 02:49 AM
11

Because she's a mentally unstable nutcase. If the New York Times wrote a story about an upcoming Nuclear attack from a credible source, but then you find out the source was really just the homeless guy behind their office... whose fault is it?
/r/PussyPassDenied07/04/15 08:54 PM
0

They got fired a few months ago by Yishan for SJWish behavior and incestual ties to SRS.
/r/PussyPass08/03/15 01:43 AM
0

Yeah if someone had emails/texts/comments from them referencing payments. I havent seen anything from Yishan that indicates he is SJW. If I remember correctly he fired cupcake and intarded.
/r/PussyPass08/03/15 01:17 AM
0

Her plan to sue yes. We have no evidence of Pao offering payments except the extremely circumstantial evidence of Yishan stepping down, but there were at least 3 maybe 4 other events which influenced that. I hate the bitch don't get me wrong, I just think allegations of payments are a bit premature.
/r/PussyPass07/03/15 11:55 PM
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Yishan resigned because of the heat he took for the fappening, the lack of support from board and employees on the proposed move, and the public fight he had with an employee. On top of the stress of the job. I think you should look more into that.
/r/PussyPass07/03/15 11:00 PM
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What evidence of that do you have?
/r/PussyPass07/03/15 09:55 PM
6

Yishan really put himself on the line defending the Fappening though. I dont know of any money changed hands. I was really surprised to see him speak so highly of her. They had to have known about this lawsuit but it really makes the mind wander.
/r/PussyPass07/03/15 09:22 PM
5

You obviously have some inside knowledge here. You have proof?
/r/PussyPass07/03/15 09:12 PM
4

The "down-voting" is some stupid shit they do with css, those are actual upvotes. There's only like 30 of them though.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/11/14 02:43 PM
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Honestly most of the women there, are there because they didn't get attention from males in the first place. Rather than being normal people and trying to figure out why that was and fix it, they responded by convincing themselves that they are perfect, and that everyone else sucks. That's why they've remained so bitter and unhappy. I would feel really really bad for them if they weren't so aggressive about trying to insert themselves and their shitty ideology into the rest of the world.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/11/14 09:48 PM
0

You arent building enough comfort. The girls are attracted to you, but theyre perceiving that youre in it for the game, not for them. Slow things down, get to know them as people instead of pussies, and they will melt.
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:20 AM
2

Thanks, feel free to subscribe.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:28 AM
12

It just means focus on the positive. If something bad happens to someone, don't amplify that negative signal by asking them about it or forcing them to dwell on it. Acknowledge it and try to spin it to a positive (this isn't appropriate for actual trauma). Similarly, when you talk to others, don't bring up your problems, bring up your successes, things you're proud about, things that make you happy. Have your friends and everyone you come into contact with learn that you're a happy person who is…
/r/seduction05/11/14 04:09 PM
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Sounds like an asshole to me.
/r/seduction28/10/14 01:31 PM
1

Escalate physically in a natural flow. Brush her waist, shoulder, elbow, knee etc. Look for her to reciprocate. When you in for kisses try to non-forcefully go for her mouth. When you're together get a good flow going then don't be bashful about sexual topics as long as you're in a semi-private area. Let all things flow from the "I'm going to fuck the shit out of you, eventually ;]" mindset. If she thinks you're a player that means she likes you but she wants you to make her feel like she's spec…
/r/seduction28/10/14 03:53 AM
2

It depends on how you feel about word being spread that you're a douche. It will certainly cut things right to the chase and you will avoid wasting time with women who don't already feel a strong attraction you to. Be sexual, but don't be needy. That's a needy statement.
/r/seduction28/10/14 03:09 AM
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Of course you wan't to bang and you make it clear. That's the not the problem. The issue is the mentality "I only want you if I can bang you, and if we don't I'm going to be needy/persistent or ignore you" vs "You're attractive and I would give you the best dick of your life, but if all we are is friends then first round is on me... let's party!"
/r/seduction27/10/14 08:43 PM
2

The destination is the journey.
/r/seduction27/10/14 05:46 PM
4

Some times it's more about the girl than it is about anything you could have ever done. Just focus on making sure that you're improving yourself every single day, and leaving every interaction on a positive note. The sex will come as a natural result, not as an outcome in and of itself.
/r/seduction27/10/14 03:08 PM
7

You have an outcome-oriented mindset. That is bad.
/r/seduction27/10/14 02:17 PM
3

Imagine you've been living life as a FPS. Press the camera button to relocate the camera to an overhead location. Visualize your expressions as you talk to them, and ignore your internal monologue.
/r/seduction09/10/14 07:42 PM
37

Submit this to /r/twoxchromosomes and see what happens. [Edit: seriously, someone please submit it]
/r/MensRights29/07/14 02:31 PM
0

If you don't want to be in a relationship, don't be in one.
/r/seduction25/07/14 02:27 PM
3

Alpha as fuck
/r/seduction09/07/14 06:38 PM
0

This is the garbage that RSD puts out now? This is literally dogshit compared to TD's original 26 points.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:08 PM
1

Just date more women.
/r/seduction09/07/14 01:42 PM
3

Change the voice you think to yourself in and make it deeper. You will talk deeper naturally.
/r/seduction24/06/14 01:45 PM
5

Poe's law. That's got to be Poe's law.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 06:53 PM
3

Change the voice that you use to think in your head in. Give it more bass.
/r/seduction31/05/14 02:54 AM
13

deep-rooted psychological issues. You're immediately assuming that you're low value and that any girl that is interested in you must be low-value as well. To me, I'm only attracted to girls that are interested in me... because it shows they have good taste.
/r/seduction04/10/13 03:10 PM
2

Washboard abs.
/r/seduction02/09/13 05:51 AM
22

You're too wrapped up in your own ego and the challenge. Stop seeing it as a goal and more of an experience.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:58 PM
3

I typically ignore my target and win the friends over Escalation shouldn't be a deliberate process but natural. Two steps forward, one step back etc. Malls, beaches, etc. Go do something fun and talk to people when you're there. Don't go out for the sole purpose of talking to girls because that tends to telegraph desperation.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:58 PM
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Are you asking? You should never ask. If she's volunteering it, then it's because you're telegraphing your intentions too much. Never go into an interaction with a goal other than "have an enjoyable conversation." Provide value, don't seek it. Too passive. Motion for her to take them out of her ears or just talk like they aren't in and she'll take them out. I like the motion because it starts compliance.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:55 PM
9

"Kind of, I'm trying to figure things out" is more open ended while still being honest. Never lie, but never straight up tell uncomfortable truths either.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:54 PM
45

Cut off all contact for a couple of weeks/months. When you come back into contact there should be some sort of a physical change to force her looking at you in a new light... even if it's just a new haircut. You have a second chance here but it's extremely fragile. Message me if you want more info. Search "Full Stop" on here.
/r/seduction05/08/13 09:53 PM
1

Personal enjoyment.
/r/seduction26/07/13 02:18 AM
1

Maybe if you're going for girl next door types, but it works for everything else. You can't lead with it, you have to just make it seem like its your lifestyle and they're just coming along for the ride for a little bit or maybe longer whatever works out.
/r/seduction20/07/13 11:37 PM
1

I might make people feel good to hear that answer, but girls absolute love it when guys spend money on them. Not on presents to buy affection, but on buying drinks, going on cool dates, vacations, etc. Most hot girls don't mess around with broke guys, but that's also because of scarcity/abundance mentalities as well. If you spend a lot of money on a girl it will most likely work, but you have to make her feel like she's working/contributing to the equation as well.
/r/seduction20/07/13 06:31 AM
8

I agree with what you said, and had that mentality embedded in my statement. I've edited to display this more directly.
/r/seduction10/07/13 02:56 PM
12

Name a few things in particular and I'll help you out.
/r/seduction10/07/13 02:22 PM
25

Only two slight tweaks: Self Trust - You are a high value male and a great reward for any woman you choose. (Slightly changes the frame to the girl getting you instead of you getting the girl) Attention - If you sense any dissonance or disrespect turn your attention to something that deserve it more... another friend, the TV, the floor. Negative attention is still a reward, punish by removal, not by being negative. Remove all negativity from your life.
/r/seduction10/07/13 02:21 PM
3

What people think of you has more than a psychological impact. It can have a financial one among others.
/r/seduction03/07/13 01:53 PM
33

Frame control, sexual subtext, peacocking, indicators of interest... it's actually a great video in my mind. At least a hell of a lot better than most of the garbage that gets submitted to here on a daily basis. I don't need to see the video 1000 times, but one time with the principles clearly explained would be of great service to this community. I mean didn't that video with the tall good looking idiot asking girls to put their number in his phone get spammed and allowed here a few months back…
/r/seduction19/06/13 03:41 PM
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All the people in this video are actors (including the interviewers) and they are performing for the camera. If you think the interviewers reactions were scripted or rehearsed, you seriously are incredibly bad at reading body language.
/r/seduction19/06/13 03:40 PM
0

Girls don't ask if you're gay because they want to know if you have a gf. They ask if you're gay because you display a moderate amount of female tendencies, and they're trying to see how you handle a joke.
/r/seduction22/03/13 12:58 AM
1

Good, but don't get too fruity with it.
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:28 AM
1

Show genuine interest. Tell a funny story. Offer advice. Ask about something she's wearing. Play with her emotions.
/r/seduction19/03/13 04:28 AM
0

If it was a "quality" girl I wouldn't be worried about attendence. I assume most questions here are directed towards young vapid girls.
/r/seduction19/03/13 03:54 AM
0

Depends on what type of girl you're dealing with.
/r/seduction19/03/13 03:49 AM
0

If you see sex or relationship as the only goal, then yes, you are wasting a LOT of your time.
/r/seduction18/03/13 11:19 PM
10

You should smoothly and politely eject whenever you feel like you aren't adding value to the conversation.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:51 PM
0

Either 1) Go somewhere your friends won't follow 2) tell your friends to cut that shit out cause it's creepy, or 3) work your friends into your stories and give them a chance to say something about themselves. Usually they'll get involved in conversation with someone and you can mini-isolate the girl you want to talk to. Ideally, your strategy will consist of all 3.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:51 PM
2

people react negatively when they hear it's what I'm studying. What's a good way to respond to this? Guide them with your answer. You can say "it's boring but I'm doing accounting, why don't I tell you about the time I went shark-fishing?" You tell them they're going to be bored before they feel it, so they are more likely to follow you into an excited emotional state if you can transition well into something more interesting.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:49 PM
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I stick my tongue out usually, but I have no idea how this comes off.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:47 PM
7

No, you're awesome. Everyone will always like you. Except for the assholes, but they don't like anyone anyway.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:47 PM
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My kiss attempts are usually pretty awkward Probably because they come out of nowhere. Try escalation ladder. Don't kiss a girl until you're touching her all over. Don't skip steps, do progression.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:46 PM
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Mostly I just ignore them (hey they've done it to me), but if I absolutely have to say something: "Sorry, took too long and have someone else coming now. Next time."
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:39 PM
11

If you're having fun or learning something, your time is never wasted.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:36 PM
1

Worse comes to worst, sell the ticket for a substantial profit since you bought it pre-sale ;]
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:36 PM
1

Hahahaha that sounds like a great story, I'm sure girls would love to hear it!
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:49 PM
2

Why don't you have any confidence? Why don't you start by talking to little old ladies? They're very sweet :]
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:44 PM
1

So if I plan this awesome date (though I'm a student and skint) then I can't find anyone else to take so I loose. No, it means you have something awesome in the back pocket next time a good situation arises. And we've acted like a couple before, she just doesn't want the commitment which in my mind says I want to bang different people. Great, that means you get to bang different people too, and that you don't have to deal with all of her emotional bullshit. Win/win.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:38 PM
3

Hanging out at friends' houses, movies, driving around, putt-putt, bowling, etc.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:29 PM
1

and have said to her I did. Dont say with words, what you can show by action. Better to keep a little bit of mystery. Another thing how do I go from asking a girl the time for instance to asking her on a date. Why are you asking girls on dates? Plan awesome dates, then see if she's free. If not, take someone else.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:28 PM
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No, because it's giving the girl shallow value. Never ask if she has a boyfriend. If she has one, she'll tell you. If not, assume she doesn't. If you feel like being extra careful, casually refer to her bf or "man" or w/e and see what she says.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:27 PM
1

Keep talking to her, never bring the bf up. Treat her as you would treat a single girl, until she tells you otherwise.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:26 PM
23

Don't ask them when they're free. Plan awesome dates, then message a few girls to see who is free. Take the one who is most excited about being invited.
/r/seduction18/03/13 08:25 PM
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Going out with some friends this weekend for my birthday. How can I use my birthday to my advantage? Ask everyone for birthday kisses. Start with old ladies and work your way up! Just go out to have a good time and regardless of what happens just be happy with yourself, with your friends that are out with you, and your plan of where you want to go! Happy birthday buddy I hope it's your best one yet!
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:38 PM
8

How do you counter with a girl who is very anti public displays of affection? Respect her. If you get it behind closed doors, then take that. If not, who cares? You're a man and you're complaining that someone won't hold your hand in public???? I'm sorry but this makes no sense to me.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:37 PM
3

Back then it went wrong and messed up my vacation pretty bad. Don't let anyone else affect your state. You should judge yourself based on who you were yesterday as a person, and how you've grown since then. Sometimes things don't work out... it is a single observation and not a trend. Only try to make the next day better than the last. Should I keep her at a distance and stay friends to keep things from getting awkward or shall I try to flirt with her? Do what feels natural. Do not over-think. T…
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:37 PM
0

There's this exceptional girl I know who's different from every girl I met, let me explain: No she's not. This is code for "I think she's way hotter/higher value than me." If you're wondering about whether or not you can get her, let me refer to Confucius: A man who thinks he can, and a man who thinks he can't, both prove themselves right.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:34 PM
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You don't. If you want to talk go outside or go to another club. Loud clubs are physical game only. Make eye contact, dance, touch.
/r/seduction18/03/13 07:33 PM
1

Test for compliance first.
/r/seduction11/03/13 08:26 PM
36

I generally don't like tricks or gimmicks. Usually when flirting with a girl I throw in a lot of future projections, and if/when she responds favorably, I follow up with "yeah that sounds awesome! Let me get your number so we can make it happen." and pull out my phone. Real low pressure/natural type of thing.
/r/seduction31/01/13 08:58 PM
2

Because that's the step that gets skipped -- it's always "How can I get a job?" and not "How can I become the type of person employers want?" It's "How can I get pretty girls to like me?" instead of "How can I become the type of person that pretty girls like?" See, because that second one could very well require giving up many of your favorite hobbies and paying more attention to your appearance, and God knows what else. You might even have to change your personality. "But why can't I find someo…
/r/seduction17/01/13 10:47 PM
2

It might be. Just know it's not wasted because now you know better for next time. You should probably nurture your interests in other things, and let her come back to you. Make friends with other girls, etc. It's sad to say, but sometimes old fashioned jealousy is good to reignite a lost spark.
/r/seduction14/01/13 11:15 PM
2

Did you just reverse AMOG me?
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:58 PM
2

he felt like the girl led him on I disagree. If you feel like someone "owes" you something, it's because you feel like you did something for them, or that you hit the secret code that unlocks something. Lingo leads people to thinking that game is about secret codes and not about building connections. everything to do with the fact that he had seen her actions too specifically and, in essence, couldn't see the forest for the trees. Yes. The point I'm trying to make is subtle. You are welcome to d…
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:53 PM
3

I don't have the time to give detailed lessons to individuals. If you do, that's great! I find that "lingo" encourages people to categorize EVERYTHING, which is harmful when you're just starting out and trying to build connections. Again, if you find its a benefit to the people you help, by all means keep using it. I'm just sharing my experiences here.
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:37 PM
3

This is pretty one-dimensional advice. My advice here is one-dimensional for the average person learning pickup. Lingo CAN be a tool, but in most people it helps foster objectification which hurts results. I'm glad you found a way to make it work, but please don't assume that everyone is like you.
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:32 PM
2

Attraction is different than "definitely wants me and only me." If someone is attracted to you, then it doesn't mean ONLY you. It's good to assume that people like you, just not like that.
/r/seduction14/01/13 10:08 PM
1

I'm going to try to work out and lift but I don't know how to start. Doesn't matter if you don't know! Just START. The most important thing is just showing up on time and on a regular basis. If you do that, the rest is just small details. It will be intimidating at first, but the guys at /r/fitness are really really really helpful. Good luck! And if you ever need anything, feel free to message me.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:58 PM
2

Why are you focused more on insignificant details than improving yourself or helping others?
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:37 PM
3

Don't let anyone give you shit for being Asian! Do you think Jet Li, Psy, or Mao let people give them shit because they were asian?!?! NO!!! Everyone that hates on you is IGNORANT! In fact, they're so ignorant that you're just going to think about them everytime you're pushing yourself to prove how wrong they are. That said, find an Asian "hero" for you to view as a model. You will slowly develop in yourself the features that you find admirable in your Asian hero. I've notices that most "cool" A…
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:33 PM
2

Text her about whatever you guys were talking about. Throw in some call-back humor. Whatever feels natural. Whenever feels natural. Often times I'll feel in a good mood and I'll send out a bunch of texts, and follow up with the ones that respond. Don't ask for dates, set them and tell them they're invited.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:29 PM
2

I'm trying to find new friends who I would be down to do more of the things I've been wanting to do with. This is key. Get involved in activities where you are likely to meet those people. Kickball leagues, etc.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:27 PM
2

Are you attracted to her?
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:20 PM
2

what you do after getting a number in a bar? Text her! Make sure the number is because you built a solid connection... not just because getting numbers is a goal itself.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:20 PM
5

You should be sleeping 6-8 hours a day. No exceptions. This is a health concern, not a pickup one.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:19 PM
4

I look at them and don't know how to approach without feeling awkward. You have low self-esteem, and this is a natural reaction because you view these girls as having something of value, when you don't. There are a lot of "short cuts" here about getting past that. Ignore them. What you need to do is pick a few area that you want to excel in (building muscle, style, particular subject in school, etc... whatever is important to YOU). Then, build your success in those areas. When you have success i…
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:19 PM
3

How do you go about asking a girl out that you didn't really talk to much when you first met, but who you have tons of physical chemistry with? "Hey X, I had so much fun the other night. [This upcoming activity that I really enjoy] is coming up, and I'd love to show you/have you come with me. Are you free?" Take her somewhere where you'll have fun, and show her what it's like to enjoy it. You'll be having fun, and that's immensely attractive. You'll also appear knowledgeable, which is immensely …
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:17 PM
6

I focused on maintaining eye contact and implementing light kino , she then asked me if we wanted to go outside ( she wanted to have a smoke I guess ). In my mind I interpreted this as her trying to isolate me , Drop any and all PUA lingo from your memory. It only makes you think of people as objects to be possessed and manipulated. Focus on building connections with different and distinct PEOPLE as quickly as possible. Don't get it in your head that girls like you until they're naked in your ro…
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:15 PM
2

So my question is, do you guys use pre-rehersed jokes? Are you naturally funny? Is there something I can do to work on it? Spend a night watching nothing but marathons of standup. Daniel Tosh, Aziz Anzari, etc. Immerse yourself in comedy until it becomes a part of you. Repeat some lesser known jokes at first to get a sense of the timing, then get comfortable telling your own. My personal favorite is call-back humor.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:14 PM
2

The places the sidebar talks about, bars and stuff I feel out of place at. Day game places like the grocery store or the gym, I'm just too wrapped up in what I'm doing or thinking that I don't really notice anyone or strike up converrsation. Do you get together with friends? Do your friends have get-togethers with their friends? Go to these. Talk to people.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:12 PM
3

i really need to stop this friend zone actitude. what can i do? Start being more sexual. Touch people on the shoulder, on their elbow, the small of their back, etc. Tease them. Be warned... if you're too friendly now, you're likely to overshoot and be a little too aggressive/creepy at first. Practice on strangers or best friends that know what you're up to.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:11 PM
1

Let's say you and a coworker really want to hook up. Is this a bad idea? If you work at Hollister? No, but don't expect things to be smooth after you fuck her over. If you work at GE Capital? Say goodbye to your future.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:10 PM
0

If I don't get laid by February 1st Fuck a fattie [edit: or otherwise less attractive girl]. Don't tell your friends, or tell them but don't mention her weight or show pictures. The self-esteem boost will be nice, and once you "get over the hump" your next lay will be easier.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:09 PM
5

Are there any self-practice charisma exercises Tell old ladies they're pretty. Charm everyone you meet, whether its an old man, a stranger in the park, or your dog. Everyone you come in contact with should feel happier and more realized as a person after talking to you.
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:08 PM
112

"Sedditors study Psychopaths in effort to trick more girls into having sex with them" - SRS C'mon guys, you're making it too easy for them.
/r/seduction07/01/13 08:21 PM
4

Selection Bias would increase std infection rate.
/r/seduction26/09/12 03:45 PM
5

Your eyes are so pretty! Especially the left one. You look really good today! What'd you change? That's a stunning picture of you... the photographer must have been amazing.
/r/seduction26/09/12 01:12 PM
-1

I never put myself in the position to get rejected. I'm either IN, or maybe I'll give this girl a rain check.
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:48 PM
1

Depends on presentation. You're also offering value in the form of entertainment. Value neutral, unless you look unattractive.
/r/seduction07/09/12 02:05 AM
1

You can open with rapport if you assume attraction, but that's tangential to value. Opinion openers don't assume lower value; they're value neutral.
/r/seduction06/09/12 09:58 PM
3

It's Tyler Durden's 25 points from ~2006ish. Feel free to google it and post it in it's own submission. You deserve the karma ;]
/r/seduction06/09/12 08:08 PM
5

It should be used sparingly, like #7, but I would agree with you.
/r/seduction06/09/12 07:16 PM
13

These are things that normal people do subconsciously. It's not designed to be a plan where you have to hit every point 100%, but treat it more as a guide. Read it every now and then as you develop.
/r/seduction06/09/12 07:15 PM
3

Rapport is comfort phase, not opening.
/r/seduction06/09/12 06:04 PM
15

15) NOT APPEARING MORE INTO YOUR WINGMAN THEN THE CHICK = trying too hard to pick her up.. you've known your wingman longer than her.. why do you pay more attention to her than your wing??? 16) TOO EAGER TO PAY ATTENTION - SAYING "what?" IF YOU CAN'T HEAR HER, PRIOR TO BEING IN RAPPORT = too much interest in what she's saying.. if she mumbles, just STACK OPENERS into an entirely DIFFERENT topic, RATHER than saying "what?" This is ****ing KEY KEY KEY. If you say "what?" you'll lose her unless you…
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:51 PM
51

1) FIDGETY MOVEMENTS AND TIGHT SHOULDERS AND TAKING YOURSELF TOO SERIOUSLY OR BEING TOO BUSINESSLIKE OR "SOPHISTICATED" (not laughing or being relaxed) = very visible subconsious (or conscious) self-doubt, overcompensating through non-relaxed state, where you're prepared to deal with anything that could happen. Ever met someone who doesn't blink when you talk to them? 2) TALKING TOO FAST = worried that people will stop listening to you unless you get out something that will interest them before …
/r/seduction06/09/12 03:50 PM
4

Look up TD's 25 points. You listed like 5 of them. The other 20 would be of massive help to this subreddit probably.
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:26 PM
5

Placebo.
/r/seduction20/08/12 04:27 PM
2

Because you're trying to get something from them. Because you don't know your own value. Because you think they have more to offer than you do.
/r/seduction19/08/12 07:53 AM
1

He doesn't even know it.
/r/seduction17/08/12 06:25 PM
23

Hide the Sausage Show me where your Father touched you What will you do for $200
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:01 AM
2

Now it is relevant to /r/seduction.
/r/seduction01/08/12 03:50 PM
2

What about this is relevant to /r/seduction?
/r/seduction01/08/12 02:51 PM
2

Other women will hit on you when you are with her. Often, this will occur when a woman comes up to you and says 'your girlfriend/date/friend is really pretty,' or something similar. To be clear (and it took my girlfriend to point this out), this is not them hitting on your girlfriend, this is them hitting on you Don't be so sure. I've had several threesomes that start like this.
/r/seduction24/07/12 06:14 AM
1

Good answer. Its just the result of looking at situations objectively after the fact and thinking about little things here and there that you can approve.
/r/seduction17/07/12 05:19 AM
13

In terms of approaching and hitting on cute girls... I've found the most success with this mindset: Hmm that girl is kinda cute... let me go talk to her to see if she has the personality to back it up I'll just start with some bullshit and teasing and see how she reacts and basically take it from there. I have a finely tuned sense of social awareness from almost a decade of going out though, so I know immediately whether a girl is being rude or if I did something a little odd, and I know the bes…
/r/seduction16/07/12 09:05 PM
0

Perhaps its time we took harder looks at the girls who are chasing us. They're likely the ones who actually want us and are more deserving of our time. This is something I've been saying for a while. If a girl is really into me... at least I know she has good taste.
/r/seduction29/06/12 02:08 PM
1

You should replace your text, when the text of the person you just replied to.
/r/seduction28/06/12 05:00 AM
0

Multiple women all having sex with the same guy. I'm involved with a few myself at the moment.. And they all complain about other guys.
/r/seduction25/06/12 04:41 PM
2

Women want sex more than men, they're just more selective about who they have it with. Many guys are 1) bad in bed 2) sexually threatening.
/r/seduction25/06/12 04:36 PM
1

If you use it to recite facts that you learned from jeopardy: No. If you use it to find words to play with ambiguous meanings, if you use it to arrange logistics well, if you use to design your appearance and impression... FUCKING YES.
/r/seduction16/05/12 12:27 AM
1

This is somewhat true, but also pretty dangerous. I didn't start having real success [multiple women in a week, threesomes, etc] until I dropped this view point and learned how to better recognize and provide value.
/r/seduction11/05/12 06:16 PM
6

Yeah, you def need the girls to be comfortable with each other. I found it best to include at least one mostly lesbian, as that way my main girl is less jealous and is better taken care of.
/r/seduction11/05/12 03:48 PM
2

The same thing happened with me. I handled it by 1) a series of short term relationships that ended when I got bored, and 2) finding an incredibly attractive girl that constantly challenges me. Every month, I get the feeling from her that "I've accomplished something." It's beautiful stuff. I chalked it up just to the way I'm wired, not that I associate sex with victory, although to some small degree I can see how some might perceive it that way.
/r/seduction09/05/12 07:07 PM
3

Not if they recognize quality, and it's two great things coming together. There's always some maintenance, but in some it's much larger than in others.
/r/seduction17/04/12 02:50 PM
3

Essentially, low maintenance.
/r/seduction17/04/12 01:56 AM
2

I get phones put away quickly I can tell when I'm on a date with a quality girl, when she tells me to put her cell in my pocket so it doesn't distract her.
/r/seduction16/04/12 03:15 PM
0

By this point I'm pretty attracted to her. When I shouted at her 3 minutes prior I was only making friendly conversation / having fun, hoping to maybe have somebody to chat with while walking back. Key point.
/r/seduction24/03/12 11:53 PM
6

Tryhard....
/r/seduction24/03/12 11:51 PM
1

This also works with "You look like you're interested in girls."
/r/seduction15/03/12 06:31 PM
1

Stand near the guys you want to talk to you. Make eye contact, smile. When talking, laugh a lot. Touch them in innocuous places. Play with your hair. Etc. You might also want to work on your style/fitness, but I can't really comment without looking at you.
/r/seduction06/03/12 11:11 PM
1

Can you link me?
/r/seduction01/03/12 10:03 PM
1

I can't seem to find it, can you link me? I want to read the comments.
/r/seduction01/03/12 09:35 PM
2

My bad dude, I didn't see this pop up under "related" when I saw it on /r/funny. I'm sorry about your rage issues, but I hope you have a nice day :D
/r/seduction01/03/12 09:33 PM
7

A few more details: 1) - Grooming, style, fitness, takes job/school seriously and still have a social life, talks easily and often, arranges events, seen as one who builds group consensus (honestly just need 2-3, but the more the merrier). 2) - Doesn't say/do anything creepy (aka that demonstrates lack of sex)
/r/seduction22/02/12 05:05 AM
2

How much does a polar bear weigh?
/r/seduction16/02/12 09:01 PM
24

Everytime I leave my house, I put on the mindset of making the world of those around me better. I talk to all people, young and old, male and female, ugly and beautiful. I ask their opinions, make observations, tell funny stories, and sometimes discuss the meaning of life. I'm not sure if you call this "sarging," but it's what works for me.
/r/seduction15/02/12 05:41 PM
0

No, for being inappropriately sexual. Learn your limits, child.
/r/seduction04/02/12 09:26 AM
11

This is why seddit gets a bad rep.
/r/seduction04/02/12 03:46 AM
1

Can you give us any more choice quotes?
/r/seduction30/01/12 05:34 PM
1

Smile.
/r/seduction28/01/12 06:58 PM
0

TofuTofu also was collecting donations that he decided to keep for himself instead of sending where they belong.
/r/seduction28/01/12 06:56 PM
59

Others will tell you how to "blast past this," and they will not be wrong. Disagree. Awkward guys who refuse to take social cues are so fucking annoying.
/r/seduction28/01/12 06:53 PM
1

They want the D, just not from clowns.
/r/seduction24/01/12 02:31 PM
-4

Honestly every guy here is probably going to make some cocky/funny suggestion like it's a magic pill, but 9/10 times that will just hurt your chances even further. I hate to be the bearer of hard work, but the best answer is for you to start eating a lot more and picking up some weights. If you're incredibly opposed to changing your body type, or want some tips the meantime, I'd probably give her a weird look and a mini freeze out that involved giving your attention to someone else. This is NEGA…
/r/seduction24/01/12 03:50 AM
8

I'd argue that even someone with 100% skill this line would still fall flat 90% of the time. This will not work on high quality women.
/r/seduction24/01/12 03:47 AM
2

I disagree with your article on HB10 obsession. I like meaningful sexual relationships with models and model hot women the same way I like to eat at 4 and 5 star restaurants. It's enjoyable and I deserve it. Everything else is pretty solid though. Thanks for the articles.
/r/seduction20/01/12 05:39 PM
1

I still have no idea how it applies to my comment.
/r/seduction19/01/12 10:35 PM
31

Protip: When you think to yourself, think to yourself in a deeper more masculine voice. This will train your brain to speak in a deeper voice as well.
/r/seduction19/01/12 03:00 PM
3

Not an excuse bro. Just a little friendly jealousy that he has an easier time at it ;]. I'm still working and not quitting.
/r/seduction19/01/12 01:06 AM
4

Or maybe you just grew out of that caricature into a well developed person?
/r/seduction18/01/12 07:21 AM
4

It's still possible, but so much harder at 5'6." Cheers though, must have been a pretty sweet ego trip.
/r/seduction18/01/12 07:07 AM
9

She had a boyfriend and she'd call me up at 11 to go drinking while her BF glared at me across the bar. She was loaded so she'd buy everything. No offense, but height/build at the time of the story?
/r/seduction18/01/12 06:56 AM
28

Hahahaha I'm cracking the fuck up. Resembles SO many conversations. Never crack buddy, never crack.
/r/seduction18/01/12 06:54 AM
1

Attraction is part of value, but it isn't the entirety of it.
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:35 PM
1

shrug Depends on your frame I guess. People are the way they are. That doesn't mean you have to make positive or negative judgments about it. I find it best to just accept the way the world works and find the best way for me to operate within it.
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:26 PM
2

"Self* grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change those that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." Repeat to yourself once daily for a year, and drop negativity from your life : ]
/r/seduction11/01/12 09:20 PM
24

That's what they say they want, but "actions speak louder than words." It's the classic struggle between the ego and the id. The ego says "this guy would be really good for me in the long term" while the id says "the other guy makes my pussy wet, and isn't too bad." Guess which one wins out more often?
/r/seduction11/01/12 08:18 PM
75

As a former Nice Guy,TM I didn't really see it as "manipulation." I honestly thought that was the way to build meaningful connections that built into stronger and sexual relationships. It was only when I realized most girls (and guys) didn't want strong relationships, and instead preferred to chase value, that I was able to escape and change my paradigm.
/r/seduction11/01/12 08:07 PM
1

People like you are so annoying.
/r/seduction02/01/12 07:07 AM
1

haha. You're high on my RES as well. From this moment forth, bros.
/r/seduction29/12/11 08:56 AM
1

Yeah his general demeanor and life style is a huge plus. That's not really what most people consider "game" though.
/r/seduction29/12/11 01:03 AM
37

I just watched the rest of the videos, there's actually a lot to learn from this. Being groomed and good looking, and having an interesting prop (video camera) pretty much always generates attraction. His motorcycle also helps DHV. He does a lot of cold reads, busting on their body language. This helps put them off base which also generates attraction. Whenever they say something "unique" he draws a story out of them, then relates one of his own personal experiences. This helps him move into the…
/r/seduction29/12/11 12:56 AM
18

Yeah she's tossing IOI's left and right from the opener. I wouldn't exactly say that there's anything to learn from the video other than just an example of vibe matching.
/r/seduction28/12/11 11:22 PM
2

Most girls I know can actually get laid really easily.
/r/seduction18/11/11 09:14 PM
11

Keep a cheerful demeanor and give your attention to something else that either reacts the way you want it to or interests you more.
/r/seduction15/11/11 02:13 AM
2

Thou shall have no pussy above other pussies; Thou shall not placeth the pussy upon the pedastal Thou shall lead an interesting life, independent of pussy Thou shall bring value to every interaction Use thine kino appropriately Maketh the ho say no Thou shall not covet thine wingman's pussy Thou shall create a reality which the fiercest of AMOGs cannot sunder Thou shall not waste thine attraction; venue change and deep dive to build comfort and close. Do not doubt thine self. Thou shall live in …
/r/seduction04/11/11 03:43 PM
10

There's a lot more misogyny creeping in as well.
/r/seduction12/10/11 06:43 PM
-4

Just because girls don't want to fuck you doesn't mean they want you to be an emotional tampon. There girls can pivot for you, or even (holy shit!) be a friend. How fucking misogynistic are you?
/r/seduction23/09/11 10:25 PM
-10

Guys like you are so annoying.
/r/seduction23/09/11 09:35 PM
1

Maybe. I tend to think of "alpha" as "dude who tries way to hard to command attention." It's not the true definition per se, but I see many people describe those behaviors as "alpha."
/r/seduction07/09/11 03:12 AM
6

Also, true Beta isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I actually prefer having an alpha friend, because I know how to support well. Working well behind the scenes, managing logistics, and being a great support help me end up with a girl more times than some of my overly-alpha friends. The key is to not think of Beta as "bitch" but as "awesome dude that makes everything better, without needing the lead role."
/r/seduction06/09/11 06:31 PM
25

I try to make it seem like something is wrong with her, I tell her "I feel like last time we met, I met the real you, and now you're hiding behind this wall". She's like "really? you can see that?" - I try to disarm her shield she's been having on all night. It works a little, she tries to help me help her feel better. She says "I'm not going to sleep you, you just want sex, you're trying to get me to come to your place, No offense, but you seem like a really creepy guy with some issues going on…
/r/seduction02/09/11 07:35 PM
1

with a TRUE abundance mentality Nailed it on the head. GIVE value, don't take it.
/r/seduction12/08/11 03:46 AM
1

Sorry, you're right I tend to have a habit of looking over the FR's. Perhaps if you put that you were looking for feedback in the title you might get more of it. I'll happily evaluate any FR's that you can link me to.
/r/seduction10/08/11 06:35 PM
3

You can jump into qualifying as a way to build rapport if you assume attraction. Works for the well-groomed and physically attractive at times.
/r/seduction10/08/11 03:41 PM
16

1) depends on the speed at which she's walking 2) Definitely 3) probably not 4) yes, but not with tits that saggy.
/r/seduction03/08/11 11:27 PM
23

Busy = on a mission Busy != daydreaming
/r/seduction03/08/11 11:16 PM
8

I generally don't approach people who look busy, there are enough people who aren't, and it's so much easier. I'm sure you can find some quality results that way, but for my game it requires much more effort.
/r/seduction03/08/11 10:17 PM
-7

"Here's to HONOR! If youcan'tcuminher then cum HONOR!!"
/r/seduction02/08/11 07:34 PM
42

"That was so much fun, I hope it doesn't ruin our friendship" [Edit: ok that was kind of a funny quote, but it's important to match the vibe. After you have sex with a girl the first time, and if your performance was decent, she's going to be very self-conscious and worried if it's going to change things. Remember, the girl slept with you because she likes hanging out with you and you're somewhat attractive. Let her know you had a great time and that you're not going to make a dramatic shift in …
/r/seduction01/08/11 10:01 PM
5

It depends on how old the girl is / classy she is / how much she's interested in you.
/r/seduction25/07/11 12:00 AM
2

You don't. You add value through emotions, and you use conversations to create emotions.
/r/seduction22/07/11 01:12 AM
1

"Oh a hot girl! Oh I see hot girls everyday... ohh a lot of my friends are hot girls... oh, so I guess she's just a normal girl. I wonder what she's thinking of"... "Hi!"
/r/seduction15/07/11 03:27 PM
1

outcome dependency is always bad.
/r/seduction15/07/11 12:04 AM
5

You should have solid game whether or not there's going to be girls there or not. If you change your method in the presence of girls... then it's not natural, and they're smart enough to pick up on these things. Best to be congruent.
/r/seduction14/07/11 09:30 PM
67

They don't accept invitations to events without asking about hot girls being there. That's so fucking annoying. I've seriously had to drop guy friends for doing this (and other things) before.
/r/seduction14/07/11 04:14 PM
5

My first reaction when seeing a hot girl used to be to amplify her hotness in my mind. Now, my first reaction is to "ping" with a simple "Hi" and just be friendly from there.
/r/seduction12/07/11 06:48 PM
4

cool. Hit me up if you're ever in New Orleans and looking to chill.
/r/seduction09/07/11 01:50 AM
4

I watch anime Do you mention this when talking with girls? I successfully picked up Japanese girls before I could speak the language How did you provide value? I've slept with over 50 Japanese women Do you think you'll be able to transition easy back to American women? What do you foresee as your biggest challenge?
/r/seduction09/07/11 01:22 AM
7

When I was single I started every single date with the idea that whoever I was with and I were going to have an absolute blast and never thought further. This is how you make people fall in love.
/r/seduction06/07/11 02:54 AM
0

Alpha always knows what's going on, he's never confused. Mini-freeze out/backturn, then immediately launch into something that generates value. Preferably direct attention slightly more towards someone who can appreciate it better.
/r/seduction01/07/11 08:00 PM
1

"Haha! You're so funny" [maybe a friendly shoulder push] slight backturn engage her less attractive but more attentive friend.
/r/seduction01/07/11 06:26 PM
2

"Bitch shield" is the hot girl's version of "stranger danger." Once you've reached the hook point, you shouldn't be getting more "bitch shields." Comments like that aren't flirting, they're attempts to make you embarrassed enough to leave them alone.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:01 PM
-1

lol..
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:12 PM
0

Banging models is pretty fun :]
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:07 PM
3

If you feel that's the case, you should open with "hey I have a girlfriend, but I just wanted to tell you..." It will throw them off guard :]
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:55 PM
2

girls will often try to work this somewhere in the first 3 phrases of the conversation Because you're clearly hitting on them, and coming on way too strong.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:45 PM
1

If you try to use humor to cover an insecurity, it will also clown you.
/r/seduction01/07/11 01:36 PM
0

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/idrha/lets_play_the_non_reactive_game_version_1_game_1/c22ytwa
/r/seduction01/07/11 06:09 AM
2

EDIT: Also I find judgmental people boring so that makes us even. Anyone want to see what reactive looks like?
/r/seduction01/07/11 05:30 AM
2

We're all light-hearted, but people who get defensive are annoying as fuck.
/r/seduction01/07/11 05:17 AM
0

If a girl says something that I don't like, I generally just space out for 2-3 seconds like she just said something awkward, then start up a more interesting topic. [Edit: though if you're getting comments like this, you probably don't have the frame to pull off "non-reactive" in the first place.]
/r/seduction01/07/11 05:08 AM
8

Non-reactionary*. Here's what I do: If a girl says something that I don't like, I generally just space out for 2-3 seconds like she just said something awkward, then start up a more interesting topic.
/r/seduction01/07/11 05:07 AM
5

I did, but it's hard as I usually don't get these types of negative reactions to begin with. If a girl says something that I don't like, I generally just space out for 2-3 seconds like she just said something awkward, then start up a more interesting topic.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:13 AM
2

Not really impressed by any of the upvoted answers in here. It seems as if reddit a) loves to be called out when they're acting like a clown and b) respond by further clowning themselves. You'd get laughed out of my social circle.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:02 AM
14

Such a reactive answer. If you get "I have a boyfriend" then the girl has clearly picked up that you're hitting on her and engaging in value seeking behavior. It's a clue that you need to refine your process.
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:01 AM
2

Yes, no, only when drunk?
/r/seduction29/06/11 06:33 PM
8

It's actually mostly people asking for help with their profiles. People who actually need more help with their personality than their profile, but that's a different story.
/r/seduction13/06/11 08:06 PM
0

Straight up pimp game. Between this article, and the one about thread-amplifying and thread-cutting, seddit has been so fucking money lately.
/r/seduction03/06/11 02:38 PM
0

Lol no one is telling anyone they have to do anything. It's just some recommendations. Sorry you have so much rage, bro.
/r/seduction01/06/11 06:55 PM
0

If you think the only (or even main) main point of the article is to make lists, then it went completely over your head. Its aboyt removing distractions, and finding and focusing on whats important. If you can do that with lists...awesome. If you can do it without....even better.
/r/seduction01/06/11 06:26 PM
1

I think you missed the point of the article. It's less about creating to do lists, and more about structuring your life so that success is on autopilot. There are several different ways to be attractive to women, and this is just one (also the one that I follow). I'm sorry it's not your cup of tea, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work extremely well for others. Cheers.
/r/seduction01/06/11 03:15 PM
1

Be the spider not the fly ;]
/r/seduction01/06/11 04:09 AM
3

This is mostly a general list, but it will help you immensely in building value. Bitches love value.
/r/seduction01/06/11 03:18 AM
7

haha that stuck out for me as well.
/r/seduction31/05/11 01:47 AM
2

18
/r/seduction29/05/11 03:05 AM
0

That's a completely different game all together. Kind of a niche game.
/r/seduction28/05/11 04:53 PM
8

Art shows, rave parties, festivals, concerts, last minute vacations to the beach etc. I live in New Orleans so it's generally really easy.
/r/seduction28/05/11 03:13 PM
14

Yes. Thank you very much for adding these details I missed. If inviting multiple girls, I make sure to never invite ones I'm currently sleeping with. They get way too territorial. Awesome mindset.
/r/seduction27/05/11 10:23 PM
93

I avoid this by never making plans with a girl. I make awesome plans, then let the girl know what they are. If she misses, it's her loss and I'm not really worried about it.
/r/seduction27/05/11 08:05 PM
3

Currently working on that. Rave parties FTW
/r/seduction27/05/11 07:33 PM
2

I have a girlfriend :( That said, if you ever are making a trip to nola, I can be a great tour guide.
/r/seduction27/05/11 06:12 PM
5

If your only goal is to explore every interaction to its full potential, failure becomes REALLY REALLY hard.
/r/seduction26/05/11 06:42 PM
5

Can you resubmit all your old submissions that didn't make it through?
/r/seduction26/05/11 01:43 PM
7

Thread-Cutting and Thread-Amplifying: don’t believe I’ve covered these on here before. Again, long explanations for these; quick and dirty summary is thread-cutting is a technique for shutting down bad, unproductive, or destructive lines of conversation (like a girl talking about how she thinks men use women for sex, or how much her jobs sucks, etc.), while thread-amplifying is a conversational technique for building up and encouraging productive lines of conversation (like a girl talking about …
/r/seduction24/05/11 06:39 PM
30

If you're not having sex, she's not your girlfriend. Truth.
/r/seduction24/05/11 02:20 PM
0

I agree with this to an extent. When I was first getting started, I definitely missed out on some really amazing girls by just fucking them and moving on. They we're pretty hurt by it, and I didn't recognize what I had lost until it was too late. That said, now that I live by the motto of leaving every girl better off than when I found it, it's incredibly satisfying to maintain multiple relationships, and to explore all of my friendships with women to their natural bounds.
/r/seduction23/05/11 07:24 PM
1

Why is a person holding extremely silly beliefs about his personal life not relevant to this? It's not the crux of the argument, but it's an EXTREMELY interesting aside. I'm very happy that I read it.
/r/seduction23/05/11 03:34 PM
32

I'm trying to get chicks by being a better man. Problem?
/r/seduction18/05/11 06:26 PM
2

I do it, but I have no money and no expectation of getting anything in return. If you do it hoping she'll be nicer to you or put out, then you're a fucking creep and she'll be able to tell immediately.
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:57 PM
5

Being genuinely nice is, as far as I'm concerned, being a value-giver. BINGO
/r/seduction17/05/11 06:50 PM
1

when girls do things like that to me, I don't buy into their frame. I act as if they're really insecure and rude for checking my messages (which it is), and brush it off. Seriously she's upset that you didn't go home with two other girls? Just look at them like you would look at a child who thinks he can beat you at something.
/r/seduction13/05/11 06:21 PM
1

You aren't qualifying enough. The girls pick the vibe that you're really just looking to get laid. Girls want to feel special, not like a slut.
/r/seduction13/05/11 03:38 PM
1

That opener works pretty well late at night in college bars.
/r/seduction13/05/11 02:01 PM
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And the girls are very submissive. Moderately attractive at best.
/r/seduction28/04/11 01:29 AM
2

Surprised their cheeks aren't red. They don't come off as congruent at all. There must also be a lot of DHVs in the parts they edit.
/r/seduction28/04/11 01:28 AM
3

Honestly what's the point of ranking girls? Do you try harder with a 8 over a 7? Who tries hard in the first place? The only scale I work off of is 1 or 0. Either you're a beautiful, interesting girl that I'm going to bone or you don't get my attention.
/r/seduction27/04/11 06:24 PM
1

Women that are open to intimate relationships won't make it that hard. Truth.
/r/seduction25/04/11 04:04 PM
1

I would describe the differences between the two as follows: dating_advice - A blind man fumbling around asking other blind men where to go. seduction - People who still don't know where to do, but have a general sense of the right direction, but sometimes going the wrong speed and taking a few wrong turns.
/r/seduction25/04/11 03:51 PM
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no offense but /r/dating_advice is the creepiest/weirdest subreddit I've ever seen. The posters display such a lack of knowledge of even basic conversational skills, that I'm not sure anything could help them besides professional advice.
/r/seduction25/04/11 02:17 PM
0

You haven't demonstrated enough value. If you've had enough contact for her to be reasonably sure of the judgement, rebounding will be hard. Any more attempts to talk to her will automatically be seen as "value-seeking" (gross). You need to break contact except when you're in the best mood / have something very relevant to her to talk about. Good luck.
/r/seduction24/04/11 06:56 AM
3

He apologizes for stopping then goes direct. Techniques best suited when your physical appearance is good enough to let you assume attraction.
/r/seduction19/04/11 06:51 PM
2

Try some cheesy reality tv!
/r/seduction19/04/11 01:46 PM
2

Hey when I made that other reply, I also meant that maybe those aren't the type of girls you're looking for. I mean, you can find girls that are into all those things... but they don't often look like the girls that you're probably thinking of. It would be just as shallow as those girls picking the popular frat guy over you. You have to decide which is more important... your hobbies, or the quality of the girl you want to attract. After that, you will know what to do. Best of luck!
/r/seduction19/04/11 04:28 AM
0

I can chatter endlessly about things that interest me (ancient Rome, Magic: the Gathering, video games, etc.) but those are things that I've found girls don't really care about. It's so much easier to talk to girls if you get rid of dorky habits and instead get habits that girls can relate to.
/r/seduction16/04/11 03:37 PM
3

Your post is so full of negativity that any technical advice will be of no use. You need to find where inside you that you're an interesting person, and have confidence in the value that you bring to every situation. Once you master that, you will have girls like this with ease.
/r/seduction16/04/11 06:30 AM
2

start asking some hot girls what time it is. Do you think that would be a dumb to do that in a bar? Why are you saying that like their attractiveness level gives them some added value?
/r/seduction14/04/11 03:07 PM
1

Girls are less adventure-seeking during the day. As a result, I find it better to build commonalities, rather than pump attraction which I find weirds-out girls due to daylight, soberness, and the general public being within earshot. If I can lay a solid foundation, it's super easy for me to close in a bar situation with drinking + my social circle.
/r/seduction13/04/11 04:43 AM
2

Agreed, I was just talking broad as possible.
/r/seduction12/04/11 02:08 AM
1

shrug
/r/seduction11/04/11 10:53 PM
2

After getting there and having a drink, I'm catching up with my friend when I the bartender passes by and our eyes meet. I completely froze simply thinking It's great to condition yourself to just say "Hi!" in these situations. It will make you way less nervous, handle the opener, and give you more frequent closes! She keeps looking back at me throughout the night Had you thought of nothing else to talk to her about in the mean time? What she's doing with her life? What music she likes? Her favo…
/r/seduction11/04/11 07:44 PM
2

I pretended to kiss her dog and then asked her if she wanted to kiss. Sounds like attention-seeking behavior. She mentioned some time during our interaction that she had other guys fucking her and that she wasn’t into white guys(like me) First dis-qualifier. Honestly I'm not sure how I would have reacted to that one. Probably just a freeze-out. Then she called and invited a friend over. This may seem like it was going somewhere but it really wasn’t. I was against it and I told her that I didn’t …
/r/seduction11/04/11 07:37 PM
1

So, what happened exactly? I met up with her at a bus station and she immediately began to verbally bawl her eyes out at me over her ex, her most recent partner that broke up. I tried to avoid the friendzone and talking about her ex, I really did, but she just kept pushing and my mind was set in the friendzone approach. When someone is that messed up emotionally, my first thought isn't about my dick getting wet, it's about their well being. That's not to say that you should become their emotiona…
/r/seduction11/04/11 07:33 PM
2

looks girl up and down, visibly impressed "Oh my gosh, I've never met a girl so.... moderately attractive!"
/r/seduction11/04/11 05:07 PM
23

I find it best to never mention the seduction process.
/r/seduction11/04/11 04:38 PM
8

high status males have more sex, more vigorous sex, and ejaculate higher volumes. My favorite line.
/r/seduction11/04/11 04:22 PM
2

Honestly the best thing you can do is to just start talking to everyone. The old lady on the bus, the middle aged man who looks like a dad, everyone. You can learn to tell which people want to talk, how to have a simple conversation, and it's so low risk. Plus next time you see a cute girl you'll just be in the habit of telling everyone hello.
/r/seduction10/04/11 02:10 AM
1

Arby's on Canal?
/r/seduction08/04/11 03:16 PM
3

I buy girls drinks if I think it will entertain me. Honestly I make enough money that I don't care one way or the other. I think this attitude carries over well because I have a high close rate. Whatever, do what you want; doesn't matter as long as you're congruent. To me, guys who refuse to buy girls drinks are trying way too hard and are too conscious of value negotiations.
/r/seduction07/04/11 09:50 PM
12

Illusions TofuTofu! Tricks are what whores do for money. FTFY
/r/seduction06/04/11 07:59 PM
6

Everyone laughs at the clown, but not many fine bitches wanna get with the clown.
/r/seduction06/04/11 06:16 PM
3

I feel like you over analyze things a lot. Sometimes its best to just put yourself in the flow, and go along for the ride.
/r/seduction31/03/11 06:16 PM
2

Try some day game and just get used to talking to everyone.
/r/seduction31/03/11 06:01 AM
1

Well I guess it's useful to think of society vs true desires when you're beginning, but when you get more comfortable, it's best to just drop thoughts of "society" all together.
/r/seduction30/03/11 04:18 PM
1

Wanna know how I know you don't get laid that much?
/r/seduction30/03/11 03:58 PM
2

I've gotten my best insights about game from being hit on by gay guys. When you see how it feels from the other end, a lot of shit becomes much clearer.
/r/seduction30/03/11 02:06 PM
18

How is this comment anything other than woman-bashing? Are you saying that there's literally no woman out there who could offer useful advice?
/r/seduction30/03/11 05:54 AM
8

It works for everything except club-type chicks.
/r/seduction30/03/11 05:54 AM
2

Eye contact lets you display dominance in a low-risk environment. If it's been a while since you've experimented with it, you might want to try it again.
/r/seduction29/03/11 06:10 PM
0

HAHAHAHAHAHA I'd fuck him. This seriously needs to be its own submission.
/r/seduction29/03/11 06:09 PM
1

Same. Honestly at this point I'm not even sure if I know how to make any other face.
/r/seduction29/03/11 03:26 PM
19

Personally I like: Eye contact -> sly smile -> approach
/r/seduction29/03/11 02:29 PM
1

And if you're congruent with that, it works wonders! Nice thinking ;]
/r/seduction25/03/11 06:58 PM
3

I'm not denying anything. I'm getting into the panties and making her life better, rather than viewing it as an achievement, or a value-taking opportunity.
/r/seduction25/03/11 04:24 PM
13

If I could make one change to the community, I would move the focus from seeking value (How can I get in this hot girl's panties?) to providing value (How can I make this hot girl's life better? [while also gettin in dem panties]).
/r/seduction25/03/11 03:05 PM
3

I think you could fuck her whenever you want at this point. The longer you take the greater the chance that she's either going to lose interest, or assume you don't like her and move on. G'luck.
/r/seduction18/03/11 04:47 PM
6

Yeah but he spent so much time on the blonde. You can see about halfway into the video the Ginger tries 4-5 times to tell Kassem "I live vicariously through her" AKA "I haven't had a dick in a while... give me yours NOW!" IMO, when you reach that point, any delay is just going to give her time to cooldown.
/r/seduction17/03/11 04:16 PM
2

How to Win Friends and Influence People 48 Laws of Power Art of War The Selfish Gene
/r/seduction15/03/11 09:32 PM
2

As a proxy. Celebs have status, fame, and money.
/r/seduction10/03/11 07:16 PM
3

Fantastic analysis. Some big key points here: Women thought their men friends were less sexually capable than men thought their women friends were. . . . But the strongest predictor was sexual capability, both for the proposition and the short relationship I'm curious to see how including a variable for "social status" would have changed things.
/r/seduction10/03/11 04:42 PM
3

I was turned down by many girls often with the line "You probably tell that to everyone" "You probably get laid all the time." Giving the girl a sense of being special will remove those blocks and make lays easier/greater in number. My conversion ratio increased when I started paying more attention to qualifying.
/r/seduction09/03/11 05:57 PM
3

False disqualifiers tend to work the best for me.
/r/seduction03/03/11 03:11 PM
2

Discussing pickup in front of potential targets or female friends. Why don't you like discussing in front of female friends? My purely platonic female friends often chime in with great tips.
/r/seduction20/02/11 06:24 PM
2

I'm still not sure exactly why, but I suspect that I DLVed myself by being too available, and nothing ever happened. Just throwing a guess out there as I've been on the other side of the situation. He might have picked up signals that you were very interested in him. When I pick up those signals I need to make a conscious decision "Will this go anywhere?" If the answer to that question is no, I generally try to spare the awkwardness, time drain, and hurt feelings by not even hooking up.
/r/seduction17/02/11 09:15 PM
6

Seconded.
/r/seduction17/02/11 09:10 PM
1

By skeezing on women I mean someone the doorguy thinks is likely to approach lots of women in the club and make them feel uncomfortable. I'm not telling you anything about yourself, I'm just telling what what most likely happened... it's up to you to determine the "why."
/r/seduction17/02/11 04:56 PM
4

AA is a very real and very useful emotion. It derives from the awkwardness associated with value-seeking behavior. If you're in the mindset that these girls, based solely on their appearance, have more value to offer than you... you're going to fail anyway. Rather than using cheap tricks, it's much better to solve by both 1) knowing exactly what value you provide and 2) not having feelings or attraction to girls until you've had a chance to do some screening.
/r/seduction17/02/11 04:44 PM
1

It may have been coincidence and nothing to do with race. It doesn't have to do with race purely. It has to do with doormen not letting in dudes that look like they're gonna skeez on women and make them feel uncomfortable all night. If you're dressed and act like you belong there, there will be no problem. However, from your statements you seem to have a very "value-seeking" mindset rather than a "value-providing one." This is both obvious and unattractive to doormen and women.
/r/seduction17/02/11 04:39 PM
1

Sounds like you're taking a pure numbers game approach?
/r/seduction14/02/11 08:19 PM
1

I think she was trying to initiate but was just as nervous as you. Personally, since she seems nervous, I think you should just say something how you had a really fun time and didn't think it was weird. Invite her to hang out again, and this time you should def try a kiss at least.
/r/seduction03/02/11 07:16 PM
5

but was a typically useless woman and wouldn't start it I don't think anyone should take your advice if this is your mindset. Negative views towards women will hurt your game, and so does the idea that women should be the initiators. You also don't need a tl;dr for 3 sentences.
/r/seduction03/02/11 07:11 PM
3

To me it seems like one person was giving a sexual vibe that wasn't returned. Was that her or you? Who initiated the spooning?
/r/seduction03/02/11 06:48 PM
1

and hopes things aren't weird now I think you did fine, but this worries me. Why would she think things might be weird?
/r/seduction03/02/11 06:45 PM
3

I find the best response rate with short messages. Too funny = try hard. Too insightful = try hard. Too much effort in message = turnoff.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:53 PM
0

Such a negative nancy today. I applaud OP for taking action, and am a bit disappointed at how defeatist you are. That type of attitude is very un-masculine.
/r/seduction01/02/11 07:11 AM
5

You're pretty good at a defeatist attitude. I'm unsure of your qualifications for judging what others are capable of, however.
/r/seduction01/02/11 06:32 AM
1

The answer should really depend on the perceived status differences between bitch and OP, and the tone of the initial comment. If my read is correct (he's lower status and she's high status), then I think something like: "How about you move your fat ass out of the way so I can stand up?" As mentioned earlier would go great. It's an unexpected hitback which should have most of the class cracking up. He's not going to make a friend of the girl, but he turned a status-lowering situation into a stat…
/r/seduction27/01/11 04:35 PM
3

Too stock. Seems like a cover-up rather than a real response. Never play defense, always respond with offense.
/r/seduction27/01/11 04:26 PM
1

She said that would be too intimidating, and they would just shut them down. I'm very happy that you all have found a type of guy that fits, but are you all really turned on by guys who are so easily intimidated?
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:16 PM
1

If you're going to use a stock pick-up line, you need to be over the top about it, and have the personality to pull it off (Fresh Prince). Personally, I've developed my business side, so I tend to maximize control traits and minimize pure pleasuring-seeking ones.
/r/seduction26/01/11 03:29 AM
2

I'll keep that in mind if I ever become "most."
/r/seduction26/01/11 01:17 AM
2

"Holy shit, I only have a second, but did you see that [midget street fight / bad ass little kid on a scooter]?"
/r/seduction25/01/11 10:11 PM
3

Mentioning physical characteristics or sex too soon is a great way to put her on auto-pilot and blow yourself out.
/r/seduction25/01/11 08:35 PM
1

If I'm getting that look, I'd probably match it with a strong "Hi" and wait til she responds. If she looks like she's fumbling for something to say I'll probably ask her for something like a cigarette, or directions to a nearby coffee shop/bar with the goal of convincing her of coming. Prob go heavy kino too if you're already getting that look.
/r/seduction25/01/11 08:10 PM
13

I read your sentence but all I heard was "All I saw was a picture of you, and since I'm incredibly shallow and needy, I'm already in love. My self esteem is way too low to be direct, so I'm just going to sit here and wait around until you're desperate and I'm convenient." Only she's never going to be desperate.
/r/seduction25/01/11 07:49 PM
2

I enjoy his mentalism much more than his attraction segments. He's gay so he's working with a bit of a handicap in terms of understanding heterosexual interaction.
/r/seduction21/01/11 04:50 PM
2

a single man who doesn't have a lot of friends in the area If you don't feel like jumping into things, start smile. Make friends. Build a social circle. Branch off.
/r/seduction21/01/11 03:58 PM
5

Only for NY and CA?
/r/seduction20/01/11 05:07 PM
14

Rage much? Be happy with the steps you are taking, and learn how to progress without having a chip on your shoulder. It'll be more pleasant for everyone involved and your progress will go much faster.
/r/seduction19/01/11 04:59 AM
1

and definitely to challenge me Bad mindset. I would have taken that as an indicator that she wanted to share me with her friend, and parleyed into group flirting.
/r/seduction18/01/11 08:47 PM
1

Whatever works for sure. I find that that much dominance only works for me if I'm much higher value in ways other than personality (earning potential, looks, etc).
/r/seduction14/01/11 08:50 PM
1

But when you're on a date initiating a relationship, I just think it's better to be clear about what's acceptable Maybe we just have different social circles, but I promise if you tried to do anything like that to the girls I date they would laugh and NEXT you. Maybe they're not you're type, but I'm pretty happy with my results. You're wandering off may be perceived as it's okay to do it since you can keep yourself occupied while she's chatting Absolutely not. Please read my entire comment, spec…
/r/seduction14/01/11 08:22 PM
2

This is what I wrote higher up in the thread: I prefer to punish by my actions, not my words. When this happens to me, I generally just walk off or turn my attention to something more interesting, and make them work a little bit to earn it back. That way, you naturally construct the situation so that everytime they do that, they have to seek your attention and approval to return. It stems from my belief that my attention is the most valuable thing a girl can have. When she acts in a way I like, …
/r/seduction14/01/11 08:05 PM
2

It's not passive aggressive if I turn my attention from something less interesting to something more interesting. I'm not doing it out of anger, I'm doing it out of boredom. Giving girls explicit rules to follow, especially when you're in the get to know each other stage, is extremely beta behavior.
/r/seduction14/01/11 07:56 PM
1

Overreacting is a very Beta quality.
/r/seduction14/01/11 07:30 PM
11

It's good advice to not tolerate bad behavior, but it's reactive and beta to tap them and call them rude. I prefer to punish by my actions, not my words. When this happens to me, I generally just walk off or turn my attention to something more interesting, and make them work a little bit to earn it back. That way, you naturally construct the situation so that everytime they do that, they have to seek your attention and approval to return.
/r/seduction14/01/11 07:28 PM
1

Can you elaborate in a way that is productive?
/r/seduction11/01/11 02:48 PM
1

It's something that natural's find themselves doing all the time, and something that beginners should learn.
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:50 AM
3

I would define "unsuccessful alpha" attempts as negs, or attempts at leadership that fall flat. Either caused by misreading group (or an individual's) opinion/desire, or bad timing. For example: a guy trying to lead me somewhere when I have no desire to go with him, a neg, etc.
/r/seduction11/01/11 04:48 AM
9

I haven't been in a while, but the biggest lesson was how fucking annoying persistence is, and how obnoxious it is when people can't take a social cue. Also interesting was how transparent and laughable most alpha attempts are. Finally, some gay guys are really really good at creating conversation. I've had guys get me into 20 minute passionate conversations before I realized what was going on and mentally pulled myself out.
/r/seduction11/01/11 03:12 AM
3

It might work against low self-esteem women, but you're going to get laughed off if you try to use this mindset on anyone who respects herself.
/r/seduction07/01/11 05:44 PM
5

Passive Aggressive Beta FTW
/r/seduction07/01/11 05:26 PM
4

We're talking about a woman here, not a dog, right?
/r/seduction07/01/11 04:51 PM
20

In other words, men who feel premature emotional interest are virtually guaranteed to fail. Biggest point of the article. I discovered this myself over the years, but I probably would have developed more quickly if I had read this article.
/r/seduction05/01/11 09:55 PM
2

No argument here. However, most of the women that post looking for tips need help with the attraction phase. Once women reach a certain level of attractiveness, they become inundated with approaches by men. Law of repetition states that most of these women will eventually find what they are looking for. There are some women who need help in the maintaining attraction department, but most could probably benefit more from increasing their attraction building abilities.
/r/seduction04/01/11 09:56 PM
1

Right, but high value males don't just care about how long a girl makes you wait before you can hit. If you're goal is catch a high value male (for purposes of this discussion I'm assuming someone with good looks, a good job, and a decent amount of class/manners/social skills), then your best bet is to first look at which step in the process are you having the most trouble: A) Meeting, B) Attracting, or C) Maintaining interest. I would just choose and focus on one category until it's no longer y…
/r/seduction04/01/11 08:50 PM
1

The rules you linked to only work for guys who 1) are already very interested in a girl (maybe she's really pretty or famous) and 2) don't give up easily (high self-esteem and can't find any other quality girls). The vast majority of girls don't put guys through bullshit like this, so most are likely to move on to low-hanging fruit. I can see an AFC being really scared off by these tactics as "playing hard to get" generally gets them to just blame themselves and give up.
/r/seduction04/01/11 08:41 PM
2

Seems very outdated. It looks like it was written by someone who learned the rules before birthcontrol changed the game.
/r/seduction04/01/11 08:29 PM
5

"Hit the gym + make up", which amounts to saying "Just be confident and talk to the girl" Guys are more visual, women are more mental. It's a lot more difficult to quantify status than it is to quantify looks. If you have questions about gym+makeup(+hairstyle), I can answer in more specific detail... but that's where your greatest improvements will take place.
/r/seduction04/01/11 08:28 PM
2

I imagine there's people out there Don't ever pay attention to other people. Find the values that you hold important, and live according to them. Your self worth should depend on whether you stick your values, not what other people think. My only goal is to every day be 1% better than I was yesterday. It's such a low goal, but the %'s add up huge over time. Cheers.
/r/seduction22/12/10 03:18 AM
3

Hey it's great that you're addressing your issues! Is this the first time you've vocalized that admission? What other steps have you/do you plan on taking?
/r/seduction22/12/10 02:15 AM
1

Yes!
/r/seduction21/12/10 06:51 AM
0

Hart lays down do's and don'ts for regular guys Do you see yourself as a "regular guy" or as an Alpha. If I had to guess, the way you're so butt hurt about it gives me a few clues.
/r/seduction21/12/10 06:50 AM
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There's a lot of hatred for women in this thread. Could a woman or another man who knows the bullshit that attractive women have to put up with every fucking dude they know please chime in here? I don't want these kids to get the wrong impression about women, but there's a significant value difference that they're just not grasping. I'd rather they channel their efforts into raising their own value, rather than trying to lower someone else's. Thanks.
/r/seduction21/12/10 06:13 AM
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Seriously. It comes from a deep seated hatred of women. If these beta's would learn to drop it, they would up their game so much instantly.
/r/seduction21/12/10 03:23 AM
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she will only date men who she approaches first, and will rarely ever have respect for as a man I don't know where are of your terrible beliefs about women come from, but no one on that level will ever date any one they don't have respect for.
/r/seduction21/12/10 03:22 AM
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Jesus dude calm down on the hatred for women.
/r/seduction21/12/10 03:21 AM
5

owning them with my words The fact that you use such adversarial language leads me to believe that that's exactly what's not happening.
/r/seduction18/12/10 07:47 AM
2

If there are two girls that are friends for a decent period of time, one will always get more attention. Play it friendly for both for a little while, then make the less attractive one feel like she's earning your attention. Get both of their numbers. Once you feel like you've got the right balance where the target is vying for your attention, pull a hard switch and do your usual f*close routine. High % rate for this technique, at least for me.
/r/seduction15/12/10 05:24 AM
15

Holy shit is your perspective warped. 90% of all human interaction is marketing.... you too. $100 bucks says you don't feel the same way about fat ugly girls as you do about hot girls. Grow up, realize you need to put your personality in a better package, and stop hating women.
/r/seduction14/12/10 04:47 PM
1

Check out The Full Stop. It's an advanced technique, but one I've used effectively. There are many more posts in the link to your right.
/r/seduction13/12/10 03:04 PM
3

This kid knows what's up.
/r/seduction09/12/10 05:47 PM
10

From the way you keep describing these girls (beautiful, high profile, etc), you're putting the pussy on a pedestal. Perhaps it belongs there, but you're definitely in a "value-seeking" mentality. You need to find what type of value you can add by befriending/dating a girl like that, and use that as the basis for your confidence. I don't recommend mixing work and pleasure, just feel secure that if you build your professional reputation enough, the girls will begin to put you on the pedestal.
/r/seduction06/12/10 07:01 PM
6

I say the same thing about my wingman ; ]
/r/seduction02/12/10 10:55 PM
10

I #-close her and tell her I'll try to go to her show. I get her to kiss me after all the kino (Sorry, random HB7's boyfriend) while chinese girl watches. Kiss like makeout or on cheek? No offense but your FR seems to have a healthy amount of exaggeration.
/r/seduction02/12/10 09:15 PM
2

"Have a nice day" Why do you guys insist on bothering people who are clearly not interested? There are so many hot girls out there that won't give you that response, and it's probably a sign that you're coming off as a major creeper. Take a hint and do some homework.
/r/seduction01/12/10 02:47 PM
5

One of your methods of coping with previous unsuccessful experiences, is to start with a general dislike of the stranger. That way, when you get negative feedback, you're less likely to care. You have to first recognize that this is a defense mechanism, and it's incorrect. You need to shift the blame to ways you used to approach (not smiling, negative expectations) and not you as a person as a sum of your thoughts and experiences. A few low pressure encounters can serve as training experiences..…
/r/seduction29/11/10 04:26 AM
1

Love the mindset.
/r/seduction15/11/10 05:04 PM
1

Me! I have a very strong sex-drive, so I found that my best path to self-improvement was through women. I've met some amazing people, and become a much better person.
/r/seduction10/11/10 05:38 PM
1

How'd you get started? What's the best way you get clients?
/r/seduction10/11/10 03:48 PM
1

I'm not dealing with models. Usually I'll do this for college girls who are just so impressed.
/r/seduction14/10/10 01:36 PM
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Good mind set. Personally, I'm a bit free with the drink buying, but I do it from a mindset of "I have so much money, buying this drink for you is the same as giving pennies to a child." Which, while obviously not true, is a very seductive mindset at least in my experience.
/r/seduction13/10/10 05:53 PM
3

I facebook close frequently. Often I'll add a girl just because she looks hot, and then make a funny/insightful comment on one of her status updates down the road. I can usually parlay that into a meet up, where it's easy to F*close b/c of comfort/attraction built up online.
/r/seduction07/10/10 09:07 PM
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Try to arrange it so you naturally run into each other somewhere near the apartment. If a week or so passes and you don't see her, just go knock on the door and confidently say "I know this is weird but I figured I'd drop I haven't seen you." Bonus points if you're just coming from/going to someplace cool that you can use to DHV. At that point, just do your standard day 1 game. Dinner/bar/movie/bedroom/whatever you normally do.
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:07 AM
5

That comeback is way too reactive. I'd probably just go with a "I'm trying really hard to figure out what you're trying to do, but I can't because it's fucking weird" look. I'm good enough at the look that people feel really uncomfortable and start backpedaling immediately.
/r/seduction06/10/10 06:33 PM
0

That sounds different than how I meant it. Just like don't tell them no, just steer their efforts into doing things for you. It's probably what girls do to most guys.
/r/seduction01/10/10 01:04 AM
1

If it happens often, then you need to examine your mannerisms. If it's rare just laugh and move on. Every gay guy I meet tries to hit on me, I usually just tool them when it happens.
/r/seduction30/09/10 11:05 PM
12

Also, spend a night in a gay bar.
/r/seduction30/09/10 09:16 PM
3

Very good but I don't like 2) YOU DO NOT GAME UP YOUR BUDDY'S TARGET. If your buddy has told you which girl is his target (or someone he hooked up with or planning to) YOU DO NOT FUCKING TRY AND GAME HER. Instead, YOUR DUTY- as both a good friend and wing- is to TALK HIM UP to give him SOCIAL PROOF that he's the fucking COOLEST GUY IN THE FUCKING WORLD AND YOUR BEST FRIEND. Obviously, however, this isn't a perfect world and maybe your buddy's girl isn't into him. Fine, but A) you still notify hi…
/r/seduction30/09/10 01:19 AM
1

I found 48 laws of Power and How to Win Friends particularly helpful. I haven't read the other two, but maybe I should. I might also suggest "The Art of Suduction" and "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell" as other resources.
/r/seduction23/09/10 02:34 PM
1

I think it might be because New Orleans is such a party town... don't really need to go online much. I was thinking it would be another avenue to meet people, but there are so many ways to do so IRL here so it prob doesn't drive the girls as much. I'll see a rare girl that's decently attractive on the site, but they don't last long. If you're ever down in nola, hit me up!
/r/seduction23/09/10 02:16 PM
1

You just have to change a habit. Learn to recognize bad behavior/wrong mindset [after->during-> before] it happens, and adjust accordingly.
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:58 AM
2

After years of friendship her idea of you is pretty solid, so you're going to need a decent period of time in order to reset her mold of you. Upon reintroduction, it should be immediately clear that anything she may have thought was wrong with you is gone. Contact should be extremely limited until f close.
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:56 AM
1

"the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" and I have little confidence in my appearance If you were a woman, I'd assume you were fishing for a compliment. If you're being honest you have something psychological going on. Talk to some of your good friends and see if you can figure out where you insecurities come from... and eliminate them.
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:54 AM
1

I finally signed up for A-list or whatever, and I sorted by 4 and 5 stars, online in the last month, and in my area... and the girls are still garbage. Way lower quality than my IRL average.
/r/seduction22/09/10 08:11 PM
1

Hi, I don't know if you're still answering this thread, but if you are I'd really appreciate it! I was wondering if there were any clues to telling how open, sexually, a girl was without coming straight out and asking it. I'm a very experimental person, and I prefer girls who are as well, but I feel really crude asking pointed questions.
/r/seduction22/09/10 08:01 PM
1

All I can get from your post is that you've engaged in large amounts of supplicative behavior. A man does not beta himself to a woman. He never asks or begs for anything. If you do anything with her, it's because you decided to, not because of her whim. In my opinion, this seems like a good situation for a full stop.
/r/seduction22/09/10 07:59 PM
6

However, my lack of confidence is not coming from elsewhere in my life. I'm young and healthy. I'm financially secure. I did well in high school and college. I have a job in the industry I love, and I enjoy what I do at work. I have lots of time to enjoy my favorite hobbies. I'm proud of my accomplishments. Either you have Dunning-Kruger effect going on, or there's something you purposely aren't telling us. If you have all of that going on for you, at least some women will be attracted enough to…
/r/seduction22/09/10 06:44 PM
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Translation: Sufisould spends 0 time and effort on his appearance (gym, style, haircut), and resents those that do. He thinks that taking care of one's appearance provides 0 positive signals to the opposite sex.
/r/seduction16/09/10 02:20 PM
1

Thanks for noticing! ;]
/r/seduction15/09/10 08:38 PM
5

It probably makes you feel dumb and awkward because subconsciously you feel as if you don't have anything of value to offer. You see cute girls, and your brain places their attractiveness on a higher level than anything you have to offer. To solve: The first option is to plow through, and just basically get enough practice in that you know how a social interaction goes. At that time, you can learn how to provide value via conversation etc, and feel at ease in any situation. Alternatively, you co…
/r/seduction14/09/10 08:34 PM
0

Yeah, but there's no clear shot of the back of the arm. Look at the fullness of her cheeks, and how tight her tits are squeezed up. At 5'2" I'm guessing she's around ~130lbs which while isn't fat, is definitely more than the girls I usually date.
/r/seduction14/09/10 04:18 PM
1

Her face is obviously not symmetric, and she's in decent, but not the best shape. Her openness towards sex is a huge positive though, and can possibly bump up her HB7ish looks a point.
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:27 PM
0

Agreed, the girl looks like she's hefty, and is using a bra to make her boobs look not like pancakes. She's also using saturation to give her the appearance of vibrance. I'd bet she's HB5/6 on a regular night.
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:24 PM
3

To expand: I also stop having expectations. Now, I never get disappointed, and a lot of awkwardness is eliminated.
/r/seduction09/09/10 03:44 PM
5

I changed my life to be more interesting and positive. I stopped spending so much time on video games, and started going to concerts, festivals, tours, and other interesting places around my city. I took time to volunteer in a way that that used my skillset. I learned a bit about fixing cars. I also stopped holding any grudges against anyone because I understand that they're only reacting to what I bring to them. I changed my interactions to have the only goal of having fun. I talk to old ladies…
/r/seduction09/09/10 02:46 PM
2

Some things are better shown than said. Anytime you try to introduce competition verbally, it looks weak.
/r/seduction03/09/10 03:16 PM
5

By asking "What'll I get" you're putting yourself in the frame that you want something she has to offer. You're supplicating. Terrible suggestion.
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:43 PM
4

say "what's in it for me? :P" Only if you want to look like a sex-obsessed man child. What's with you guys and all the smiley faces? You look like 15 year olds. You never ask for what you're going to get, you tell them how it's going to be.
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:07 PM
2

You're reading way too much it, and you use more smiley faces than any girl I've ever seen. I'd go, but with the condition that she buy first round, or that she comes on some other activity that I like but she doesn't. A man who can be in control in any situation (such as a cheesy nightclub) is a very attractive man.
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:29 PM
3

From my conversations with friends and with girls about guys, your explanation seems to be a very limited and unnuanced view of the world. I agree 100% with your first post, but I don't think many guys are like us.
/r/seduction31/08/10 02:22 PM
3

I'm like this as well, and I agree 100%, but I think there are a lot of retard guys out there that only want something that is a challenge. I think a good skill for a girl would be learning how to tell the difference.
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:47 PM
4

Actually I have the reverse problem. Gym attendance drops in favor of hanging out with me, less attention is paid to make-up, flirting, etc.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:37 PM
8

I don't really have problems with keeping up the attraction level on my mind, but so many girls just stop trying once they feel secure.
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:22 PM
8

Shit tests kind of exist, but not in the way that (in my mind) they're mostly talked about. I would just call it general flirting. Girls will sometimes try to get you to do things (hold my purse, buy me a drink, etc) that would subtly establish dominance. The key to maintaining subtle dominance is to just treat them the same way you would treat a small child... their attempts are cute, but ultimately unsuccessful. Even better is if you could actually do what they're asking you to do, but in a do…
/r/seduction27/08/10 02:51 PM
1

Hint: there's no such thing as a shit test.
/r/seduction27/08/10 02:15 PM
2

Downvoted for negative title. FR - Learning experience would have been upvoted. Train yourself to find the positive in every situation and you'll be a lot more pleasant of a person (which will bring girls).
/r/seduction26/08/10 08:21 PM
6

It's less about the story, and more about the creation of memory.
/r/seduction25/08/10 11:17 PM
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I feel like a lot of people in this subreddit are of the opinion "How can I be cocky enough to get a girl while still hanging out in my basement 10 hours a day." It's more of a lifestyle change than anything. [Edit: really surprised at the amount of feedback I'm getting for this comment. I'll follow up soon with a post about how to have an interesting life]
/r/seduction25/08/10 04:27 PM
1

Should never apologize for anything. If anything, you can create an "us vs them" talking about losery people in general, but you never want to associate (even at the lowest level) with those people.
/r/seduction25/08/10 03:03 PM
5

Her: lol. You on facebook? Me: Woah, that's some fast stalking. Should i be worried since you're the 'definitely shooting' type!? You got her attention, and she tried to move into rapport, but you yanked her back into attraction. Fairly obvious why she responded the way she did.
/r/seduction25/08/10 02:00 AM
3

You can't win the lotto if you don't buy a ticket. You're not gonna fuck her unless you try.
/r/seduction24/08/10 06:05 PM
2

To clarify: no fatties. Seriously though, be in shape.
/r/seduction24/08/10 02:07 AM
3

Any who tells you otherwise is an idiot, but yes it's harder. You can still be a cool fuckin dude and get laid all the time, but generally it's harder. The more weight you put on, the easier it's going to be though. Girls looks for "mass" more than height, in general with certain subgroups exempted (tall skinny rocker type). So for someone who is shorter I recommend: tallest shoes available that don't look weird (try bed stu, certain madden styles, etc). Hit the weights regularly. Have a solid f…
/r/seduction24/08/10 01:33 AM
3

The opener isn't what's stopping you.
/r/seduction23/08/10 10:58 PM
1

Class, dining hall, bars, library, walking around. If you haven't been able to meet a girl by your senior year, you probably have some deep-seated limiting beliefs and/or a really boring life. Neither of which can be conquered easily by a reddit comment, but I'm willing to offer any advice you may want.
/r/seduction23/08/10 09:27 PM
1

You're in college, you really don't need to be any funnier/more interesting than "what's your major."
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:25 PM
-4

Haha if you're asian then all is good. Do you make good Asian food? I would totally do all kinds of cool shit with you in return for good asian food. And if you're getting hated on by girls, just smile and say thank you cause it means they're jealous. Asians can also work the stylish route pretty well too. Just be really into whatever you find interesting, and guys should come like moths to a flame.
/r/seduction23/08/10 06:53 AM
-4

Hit the gym. I don't know a single girl that wouldn't look better 5 lbs less. It sounds dick, but honestly it's true... guys are very visual. On that same note, gym + haircut + makeup makes any girl 7+ easily. Ok now you're getting the attention of every guy. You could hook up with almost any you wanted at this point. Style + depth will get you any guy for as long as you want.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:13 AM
1

If you're past high school, "Polo" has a similar fit and doesn't remind people of high school memories.
/r/seduction19/08/10 02:43 PM
5

Abercrombie is great if you're trying to pick up chicks in high school. Not so much for anyone else.
/r/seduction19/08/10 02:31 PM
2

To say that I am shy is an understatement. Truth is I am socially inept. I have social anxiety and have problems carrying conversations. If I manage to muster any courage to talk to someone, the conversation usually ends in a minute or two. Next time, start with the positive, then add on the negative at the end if you feel like you must. The less you describe your negative qualities, the smaller they get ;)
/r/seduction18/08/10 07:55 PM
0

It's called the gym. 90% of girls could raise the level of their dating pool by dropping 10 lbs. Also, look into getting a good haircut, and solid eye make-up. It might sound rough, but guys are a lot more visual than girls. TBH, I'd much rather pick up girls based on the time I spend in the gym rather than having to create the right scenario, etc.
/r/seduction17/08/10 03:39 PM
3

Yes! Exactly what it's intended to be.
/r/seduction14/08/10 10:46 PM
4

You need a full stop + character transformation. It's not recommended for beginners.
/r/seduction13/08/10 07:20 PM
2

[Here I think I'll add an addendum or modification, if you'll allow me to the OP's original plan] It's good advice, and I'll generally do it on the occasion that I run into the girl before I'm able to arrange "the perfect night," but I feel as if it might be too pushy when she's playing into the role you want her to play. As long as she's acting into me, I'm going to reward her attention.
/r/seduction13/08/10 07:13 PM
2

No it's my favorite because it lets me pull a fantastic reversal. My second favorite would have to be the hard switch, I might that one later.
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:50 PM
1

Should make this a separate post!
/r/seduction13/08/10 04:18 PM
1

Generally the same, except that after the attractive phase, you're going to want to screen more for "adventurous" qualities than anything else. If you did a great job during attraction, she'll even redefine her own qualities to appear more available to both of you.
/r/seduction12/08/10 06:13 PM
2

I'm suggesting that if you're intelligent and good looking, you're going to be going to [bookstores, art galleries, museums, MENSA meetings, etc] naturally, and meet plenty of potential mates there. My money is that the OP is neither that intelligent or good-looking, which is why he got so defensive at my suggestion.
/r/seduction10/08/10 09:19 PM
3

The problem isn't always as easily solved as "go to this place, acquire women." I was simply presenting an alternative perspective. I felt it was rather open-ended, as someone who is smart and attractive could have responded "I am, but I'm not finding them in my daily life... how should I?" The fact that you chose to interpret it as an attack is probably more telling about you than it is about me.
/r/seduction10/08/10 06:12 PM
1

Practice talking to unattractive strangers. Once you learn how to focus on and build an interaction, talking to attractive people/girls will be a lot less stressful.
/r/seduction10/08/10 04:26 PM
-4

Are you smart and attractive? Odds are, they'll be in your life naturally. If you aren't... well I find it's always good to bring as much value to an interaction as you expect out of it.
/r/seduction10/08/10 04:20 PM
1

Right but people don't judge looks off of natural looks. They judge looks over what you've done with it. No acne, haircut and style that accentuates positive features, and an image closer to the archtype that you want to play. If you have acne and a bowl cut, I don't care how ALPHA you are, you're not fucking anyone.
/r/seduction03/08/10 06:36 PM
1

Depends on if you including grooming and style under the "looks" category.
/r/seduction03/08/10 05:54 PM
1

Good sir, you are more than welcome to your own opinion!
/r/seduction02/08/10 09:43 PM
1

Maybe in large numbers, but social circle game (which from his description it seems like he's practicing) is somewhat based on looks.
/r/seduction02/08/10 08:32 PM
2

Are you attractive? If you're really as funny and easy going as possible, the only thing I can think of is that you're getting friend-zoned because of a physical reason.
/r/seduction02/08/10 03:53 PM
2

Somewhat. I find that trying to force things (must do 5 a day) leads to a certain undertone that I find very unpleasant. I go out a lot and if I think a conversation will be interesting.. I will start it. It doesn't matter who it's with or what it's about, as long as I think the interaction will be pleasant, I make it happen. As soon as the interaction ceases to be pleasant, it is over. It is a very peaceful method.
/r/seduction26/07/10 04:52 AM
2

You're not very clear with asking your question. And you speak of things very mechanically, which leads me to think that you to force things into a pattern you've memorized rather than just interacting with them.
/r/seduction26/07/10 04:09 AM
14

Furthermore, you denied that it was a date, further emasculating yourself. Women aren't idiots, she knows you want to fuck her. You denying it 1) makes you look like a beta that has to manipulate/lie to get what he wants 2) makes her think you think she's stupid. Then you tried to attack her for making things clear, showing that you're clearly insecure about it. When I'm asked "is this a date?" I always say "kinda... if you're busy I can find other plans" which lets them know my intentions strai…
/r/seduction21/07/10 08:16 PM
16

Here's how I see the situation: During that time she mentioned she likes becoming friends with someone first before dating them (to paraphrase) so she can learn dealbreakers or just get to know a person which I get I'm the same way. We Really connected You're hitting on her in a pretty beta way for her to disqualify you so quickly. She sensed sexual interest and she said that in attempt to slow you down. You then mention: We Really connected Really? You got one-itis over this girl just from a te…
/r/seduction21/07/10 08:12 PM
5

Why worry about putting labels on something? Sounds insecure to me.
/r/seduction21/07/10 03:25 PM
3

Just getting out there means you had a huge success! Congrats on opening, keep it up.
/r/seduction16/07/10 06:22 PM
3

Hmm I might try that. I've had some success with girls on that site, but even the hot ones are less attractive than my ugliest lay in the past two years (I limit that because there have been some desperate times in the past haha). The type of girls I generally go after get hit on a lot in real life (which is why they're so easy if you actually take them seriously), and I can't really imagine them needing to go online when they get all that attention from IRL.
/r/seduction13/07/10 04:14 PM
2

What's your age range? I tend to find very few attractive girls on OKcupid 18-24, and I live in a decent sized city (3+ million suburban area).
/r/seduction13/07/10 03:58 PM
3

You sound really, really passive aggressive. Shit comes up, stop taking it personally like a little child. You've waited a while to respond, so she knows to handle it better next time. I would deny everything "oh no sorry not mad just been a little distracted. I've got some from time on xxx, want to try to get together again?" would probably work wonders. Plus, now since she's trying to please you, it will be much easier to get what you want. Whenever I'm starting something new with a girl, I LO…
/r/seduction09/07/10 04:20 PM
-2

Sounds like you need time with a therapist more than time in field. Best of luck dude.
/r/seduction08/07/10 01:57 PM
2

Don't look at it like a test. The fun comes not from the grade at the end, but from just being there.
/r/seduction07/07/10 07:14 PM
2

A better statistic would be "Out of everyone who sticks with it and puts in an honest effort, how many succeed at pickup?" The answer to that question would probably be around 95%.
/r/seduction07/07/10 06:15 PM
3

I find that AMOGs are a bigger deal to keyboard warriors than they are an actual impediment. Most dudes might check to make sure the girls are alright (and they prob do this in a code way that random observers prob wouldn't notice). I find it best just to treat it as a non-issue. If you go over the top and "pat him on the back" you're gonna look like a huge tool and blow yourself out. Same if you just straight up ignore him. If he says something funny, laugh. If he says something weird, make a s…
/r/seduction06/07/10 08:35 PM
10

Don't stereotype. This is very very true, and also applies to men.
/r/seduction06/07/10 03:23 AM
1

Maybe. I would drive the conversation straight from the story to how weird the girl was for giving a fake number without being asked for it. That places a more neutral value on the friend. Not even to say that being associated with the idea of a possible low value friend is probably more of humanizing quality than a bad one. You're the cool guy in your group of friends and you're understanding enough to hang out with people who can be a little dorky. I guess this opener would come across differe…
/r/seduction23/06/10 01:04 AM
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I'm looking for some book recommendations from you fine folks I think that's the problem right now. 1) Books - Girls don't talk about books, unless you mean cosmo. Books will not help you. Watching tv and your friends will help you 10x faster. 2) "fine folks" "remedy" "shortcoming" - Why do you talk all retarded?
/r/seduction22/06/10 08:24 PM
4

Unless you look like a creeper either in a grungy or over-peacocked way, she's not gonna be associating you with the creeper. As to leading to more discussion: yes---> haha oh shit how bad was the guy that creeped on you? no----> hahah oh shit you really give your real number to creepers?
/r/seduction22/06/10 07:36 PM
2

I don't like all the disdaining language in the article for the husband. Who cares? Some guys are beta, some fuck lots of girls.
/r/seduction15/06/10 08:30 PM
3

Is it better to pretend to be into her conversation and be a good listener? I generally just change topics to something more relevant/exciting. Almost everyone will follow you without even realizing what just happened.
/r/seduction10/06/10 09:45 PM
1

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie 50 Laws of Power by Robert Greene Art of Seduction by Robert Greene The Art of War by Sun Tsu The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins
/r/seduction10/06/10 06:20 PM
1

Just what I've found works best over the past few years. Don't get bent out of shape over girls, and just let them fall into your life naturally.
/r/seduction10/06/10 02:09 PM
3

Uhhh it's actually really easy to do, just really hard to stop being a slob and make the first effort. Join a gym, go to that free concert, check out that cool happy hour that just opened up, learn a cool dish to cook, there are nearly infinite cool things that you could do everyday. The only thing stopping you is yourself.
/r/seduction09/06/10 07:58 PM
0

Sorry, don't really understand what point you're trying to make. I was just arguing that if you see girls as shallow stereotypes, they're gonna live up to that expectation. Girls are every bit as smart as you, me, or that guy you know from one of your classes. They know how they're expected to act, and generally do so unless they pick up hints from you that this time is different.
/r/seduction09/06/10 07:07 PM
2

Uhh well with girls that are flaky, I usually just talk about cool shit I'm doing/ planning and sometimes they ask if they can come with. Usually these are things that would still be cool whether or not the girl comes too. Usually they'll say "maybe" or say "yes" but then flake a few times. Then around the third or so time, I ask if I should get a backup date. This gets the message home that this girl is being a flake, and they usually show up then. Have wine ready for whatever you're doing, and…
/r/seduction09/06/10 06:40 PM
2

She's probably more into the chase than you are. It's only when you stop trying that you have a chance.
/r/seduction09/06/10 06:13 PM
1

It's taking it too far as soon as "What will make me look most Alpha" becomes greater than "What will lead to the best time for all?"
/r/seduction09/06/10 06:10 PM
3

Make the real you more interesting :]
/r/seduction09/06/10 06:08 PM
0

Maybe I just go for girls intelligent enough to understand social conditioning and do their own thing, or maybe you just go for girls with a really limited understanding the world. The belief that the girls you date just simply aren't intelligent enough to understand what you understand is terrible, and demonstrates a deep-seated hatred of women.
/r/seduction09/06/10 06:01 PM
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Look dude, I meant real in the sense of them completely, as opposed to your limited and over-analyzed understanding. My idea also includes one-night stands. If a woman is trying to make excused to not hook up with you, then you fucked up somewhere, and you shouldn't just try to immediately blow past it without laying groundwork. If your experience that the more a woman knows you, the less she is to hook up with you.... then maybe that should tell you somethign about the type of person you are.
/r/seduction09/06/10 01:24 PM
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I don't know what this ridiculous wall of text is, but in real girls, ASD means the girl doesn't "know" you well enough to hook up. It means she can tell you aren't emotionally invested, and your game is weak. The guys who blow past that are fucking creepers and rapists.
/r/seduction09/06/10 05:15 AM
1

"Hey this is [imperi], good to meet you yesterday" you can either not respond to what she says or play off it. Then later this week when you have nothing to do: "Hey want to grab [coffee/ice cream/ a drink?"
/r/seduction08/06/10 03:34 PM
2

Nice! She sounds unsure, maybe you should text her something short today.
/r/seduction08/06/10 03:18 PM
3

Be interesting. I hate it when people try to talk over people and they have nothing cool to say or take too long to get to the point. All these gimmicks don't matter if people don't think what you have to say is interesting.
/r/seduction24/05/10 03:59 AM
1

For questions such as this, I always defer to Weezy: Never answer when it’s private damn I hate a shy Bitch Don’t u hate a shy bitch? yea I fucked a shy bitch And she ain’t shy nomoe she changed her name to My bitch Yea nigga that’s my bitch
/r/seduction20/05/10 03:36 PM
2

So let him be the expert and lead. You either say yes or no based on your plan and moods. If it turns into something... AWESOME. If it doesn't, well hey at least you had fun for the while.
/r/seduction11/05/10 08:15 PM
2

Don't worry about it so much. Sex is sex. It's part of a relationship, and it can happen at any stage. Just relax a bit and take things as they come. Do you get the sense that this guy is more of a player, more of a nice guy, what?
/r/seduction11/05/10 07:49 PM
8

And the more you worry about it, the more likely you're gonna come off as desperate/clingy.
/r/seduction11/05/10 07:07 PM
1

You need to worry less about following a formula, and realize that every girl is different. There's no magic formula, and you sound kind of creepy in your description. You should probably join /r/socialskills instead of /r/seduction.
/r/seduction11/05/10 01:53 PM
2

The only pimp asian guys I've known have been either jacked as all hell, or pretty fluent in a martial art. Just sayin'.
/r/seduction10/05/10 01:46 PM
3

Haha I think that quote was from me. Good list.
/r/seduction10/05/10 01:42 PM
3

I think people in this subreddit are more likely to stalk than be stalked...
/r/seduction04/05/10 02:21 PM
0

Girls and guys both should put a lot of prep in before they are ready to meet your average girl or guy. Guy mostly needs things that convey social value. Girls need mostly to look attractive. Key Areas: in shape. This is huge. I could count the amount of girls that wouldn't look better after losing 5 lbs on one hand. Good makeup. I personally like dark eyeshadow on girls, but that's just me. Some sense of style that emphasizes your positive traits. Once you have that, just kind of stand around h…
/r/seduction03/05/10 11:55 PM
1

If that's the type of woman you're looking to meet, I seriously doubt you're going to meet her by interrupting her phone conversation.
/r/seduction03/05/10 08:46 PM
1

There's an apple tree, with lots of delicious apples. The tree, being a tree, has fruit all over its branches. Some are at the very top, some you can reach just by standing. This thread is about ignoring the low-hanging fruit, and trying to get the ones at the top that take a lot of effort, and a decent amount of luck.
/r/seduction03/05/10 07:39 PM
2

Mind if I join next time?
/r/seduction03/05/10 05:58 PM
6

Just start with making friends. You're all fucked up in the head about women and relationships right now, so don't worry about those too much until you feel more normal.
/r/seduction29/04/10 08:51 PM
13

It's really, really, really easy for girls. Get a gym membership and use it. Learn how to use make-up, well. Get your hair done at a nice saloon. Don't be a bitch. Girls that do the above will have no shortage of guys dying to talk to them.
/r/seduction28/04/10 06:08 PM
1

"Bored" = nothing productive to do. Nothing productive to do = man with no value. Always be busier than her. You're looking at progress with the girl situation = being productive, and that's a harmful mentality.
/r/seduction22/04/10 09:04 PM
1

Yeah, but don't look too eager. Your problem was trying to get her over immediately when you should go for a slower game since you guys live close. Don't bring it up unless she does, then suggest something for another time. I hate doing shit last minute, and girls do also.
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:33 PM
1

Look at how validation seeking you are, you replied to every single answer on this thread. You'll probably see more dating results by improving yourself first before trying to follow game plans.
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:06 PM
6

Just cut them off early with "Oh my god, dude you're so funny. You're so clever. I bet you always make everyone laugh. That was a good one, tell us another joke." On the other hand, if his jokes are good and you're creepy, then just get the fuck out and learn how to be a normal human being before you trying to pick up girls.
/r/seduction22/04/10 01:49 PM
1

Nice!
/r/seduction17/04/10 09:49 PM
1

What were your sticking points, and how did you get past them?
/r/seduction16/04/10 07:45 PM
1

There's no magic pill. If you want results the fastest, move to a country where you can speak the language. Then work assimilating mainstream culture. You have to learn how to blend in before you can stand out. And pay attention to your finances.
/r/seduction15/04/10 05:12 AM
1

Girls stalk facebook. She knows who he is and is wondering why he hasn't added her. He should add her then wait for her to message/chat him. Go the 90%, but wait for her 10%. Also, when he is trying to pull her back, he needs to say repeatedly that he doesn't think she should stay, but that she should just drink the beer. Midway into the show, you should have her ankles behind her head.
/r/seduction06/04/10 02:58 AM
5

Go fuck 18 year olds. They're easier, hotter, and won't mind if you look their age. Start hitting the gym also.
/r/seduction06/04/10 12:25 AM
7

Forced awkwardness and incredible bordom Making her call for Jesus. Yeah, good call.
/r/seduction05/04/10 10:43 PM
3

Why didn't you just say "Oh yeah I have deadwood on my Netflix, and crafted beer in my fridge. Want to come watch it?" At this point do you know her name? Find her on facebook? If not go knock on her door and sheepishly say something like "haha I'm such a nerd, I have no clue why I got your room number and not your real number." Then get the real number and peace b/c she's not expecting you. Call her another time for a drink at a bar, then pull back to your place using the original thing I said …
/r/seduction05/04/10 07:07 PM
6

You are using way too much pickup lingo for trying to bang a college chick. These girls usually just want companionship and to be fucked. Don't overthink yourself, just do what feels natural.
/r/seduction05/04/10 06:51 PM
2

You're results oriented. Just go out to have a fun time and meet people. It will come naturally.
/r/seduction01/04/10 01:38 PM
0

You're answer is fine. Never tell the truth. Always be vague. If you say too much, the girl will most times feel used and dirty.
/r/seduction30/03/10 09:37 PM
1

You aren't qualifying enough. The girls don't feel an emotional connection to you, even though they're turned on by you. They don't want to feel cheap or used. Talk about their passions a little bit and tell them how cool you think it is that they're into it and you should avoid this problem.
/r/seduction18/03/10 06:17 PM
1

Dude butthurt much? I'm not attacking you, just stating that, in my opinion, I haven't seen too many attractive girls on OKCupid. If slightly overweight is your thing, totally go for it, just don't expect me to get off on that too.
/r/seduction17/03/10 05:56 PM
2

I just checked again and 90% are 15lbs+ overweight.
/r/seduction16/03/10 06:23 PM
2

I have not found any attractive girls from New Orleans on OKCupid. None.
/r/seduction16/03/10 01:33 PM
5

Cool article, but it seems like the guy is reading way too into things. I general just make a joke like "whoa how drunk were you?" and then roll from there.
/r/seduction11/03/10 01:07 AM
5

Placebo effect.
/r/seduction25/02/10 07:41 PM
26

You think too much.
/r/seduction23/02/10 10:33 PM
5

They hate everything about themselves that is unique to women. They seem to believe that in order to be equal to men, they have to be men. There is beauty in the difference, and teaching others to respect that would go a lot further than trying to ram 100% equality down the throats everyone.
/r/seduction23/02/10 04:36 PM
0

Wow.
/r/seduction22/02/10 04:02 PM
1

11 steps, really? Unless it's Hooters then it should be the same as normal game, except easier because this chick will keep coming back. Plus, she's already in the mentality of serving you and making sure you have a good time.
/r/seduction17/02/10 10:13 PM
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