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So then why not do that. There’s a lot of young women all across the world who’d love that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:27 AM
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Why is this a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:23 AM
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Sometimes siblings can be idiots. You can want the best for them, try to advise them and help them but at the end of the day if they’re trying to nuke their life there’s little you can do to stop them. For random women if they’re making bad choices like I told the other guy, ignore them. There’s a wealth of resources to help women date online and most women in the west have access to the internet. If not at home via a public library or Internet cafe. There’s enough knowledge for them to know the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:22 AM
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They’re legitimate suggestions for males who do not like women. Just don’t deal with them even in sex. Not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:10 AM
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Booo so boring. You’re killing the banter. He actually likes me. He’s not desperate enough for coochie for that to be a marital motivator for him. I vetted well. I’m sure. Reddit is where I can vent my evil side every once in a while. Offline I keep it cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:18 AM
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Nah. I wish though I wouldn’t have had to bulk and body recomp would’ve been easier if I started from being chubby vs being underweight. Anyway you suck at this let me try. You have a deep inability to connect with others because you were raised by self absorbed emotionally and potentially physically neglectful parents. Your mom was probably nuts and so you seek out women as stand ins for the punishment you wish you could give to her. Which is why you subject yourself to dates and sex with peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:15 AM
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Nope I’m out of the dating pool. I just don’t want the ruination of your Reddit experience on my hands. Especially since I don’t come on here super often anymore lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:03 AM
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I’ve never been fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:45 AM
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Yes my husband. Why would I be insecure about men liking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:41 AM
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🤣🤣🤣 Lmaoo I’m so sorry. You can come back tomorrow after I get home I’ll be in Reddit hibernation for another long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:39 AM
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Of course. You? Sounds like you’re struggling with some things. Do you have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:38 AM
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No ADHD. Os that something you struggle with and tend to attribute to others? I’m just coming down to your level of communication so you can keep up with the fun and banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:35 AM
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There’s nothing to learn in regards to goofing off w/you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:24 AM
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You can turn a penis into a vagina with bottom surgery. Someone with a more male aligned mind would probably be less annoying to your kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:23 AM
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Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:16 AM
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I never said it was real I said it was pussy. Finding someone annoying and wanting to get rid of them implied dislike. My suggestions are a lot more sane than subjecting yourself to being around annoying people for the sake of something you can get without all that hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:14 AM
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No. Not at all. I can say what I feel like saying. If someone replies I’ll respond. I’m glad you’re enjoying it you can be the entertainment for another 8hours and 45 minutes give or take.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:12 AM
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Nope. Being differently abled doesn’t necessarily stop someone from being able to banter or be held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:05 AM
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I don’t and I didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:02 AM
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Simps are dating women too. I married one. There’s all kinds of men in the dating Pool. You have to do your digging to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:01 AM
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I’m sure you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:00 AM
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Yep(:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:57 AM
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They were violated by your words for sure, but definitely not violent. You’re not innocent, just simple minded. As you were able to describe scenarios that fit the definition of these words you claim to not know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:52 AM
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They won’t if you dislike women. That’ll do a worse number on your mental health that seeking out pussy that isn’t attached to women that annoy you. Doing what I suggested provides pussy without the hassles and annoyances of dealing with women if you don’t like women. It’s a win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:46 AM
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It is because you can be desired without sex. The fact that you escalate it all the way to sex is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:43 AM
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Now you’re associating literacy and knowing synonyms with homicide. You have a very violent thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:42 AM
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That’s what I said. I’m not sure what’s upsetting you. Unless you’re banned from the sub everyone has the same right to add their thoughts in an open forum. Provided they follow the sub rules. So it’s illogical to tell others to “fuck off over weird advice”. They don’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:38 AM
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The Madonna whore complex in action. Men will never know peace and happiness with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:37 AM
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Not my community. Just communities in general that I’ve observed from traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:36 AM
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Assault/battery and homicide.You have quite a violent imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:35 AM
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If that’s what he is getting at then he can’t find a woman because he’s not attractive in the area(s) that he’s dating in. There’s plenty of women worldwide that are in shape and childless. Whether or not they want to date him though is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:27 AM
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So the answer is yes and if I had to hazard a guess it’s something you fantasize about quite often. Thanks for inadvertently answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:25 AM
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More deflection. Do you or do you not want to hit women? If so how often do you fantasize about doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:20 AM
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What was the number of women that found those men hot in comparison to the number of women in the world at large? Karla Homolka also found a man to marry her after being released from prison. That German chick who is a murderer that wanted to be serial killer has no shortage of male admirers. Some people are crazy and attracted to crazy. As a matter of fact Domina Cherry(the German murderess) was obsessed with serial killers before becoming a serial killer herself. She loved Richard Ramirez. San…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:19 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:14 AM
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So you say but if you ask UK manosphere guys they blame feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:12 AM
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Not according to men in those countries. Which is why the complaints evolved from “American women” to “western women”. Canadian and European men wanted to air their grievances too because they too were angry and felt their women became angry and unfeminine after the advancement of feminism and women’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:08 AM
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That negates my statement to ignore them how? Outside of work, healthcare, shopping etc. you won’t really need to interact with women much and in those cases the convos can and should be kept professional if both parties aren’t up for a discussion about personal matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:06 AM
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What in the world 🤣🤣. You can claim the women are less toxic but the men have the same complaints. I haven’t heard Canadian men(or males Ig since accounts to you they’re not men) speak on American men. For European men their statements on American men parallel what you’ve said about them. With the addition of them stereotyping American men as bumbling idiots with no self-awareness and no charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:05 AM
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Ok so ignore them. That’s their bed that they have to make peace with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:02 AM
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If they make comments relating to hitting men yes. Enough deflection what are the answers? Do you want to hit women? If so how often do you fantasize about doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:01 AM
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Maybe you’re American and that’s why feel that way but if you lurk you see men from CA and Western Europe have the same complainants as American men. “The woman are too masculine/picky/bitchy/slutty” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:00 AM
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I’m still not understanding why that’s a problem? If they want a relationship that bad they’ll date an average guy. If they don’t they’ll be content with celibacy or situationships with hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:59 AM
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Yeah which is what the bulk of them are known for. They go online bragging about how they couldn’t have hookups in the US/CA/EU but they can in whatever non-western foreign country. In the past they’d be known as sex tourists. In the present they label themselves passport bros and are accepted as such but they’re also sex tourists too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:57 AM
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Why is that a problem? Date who you do or don’t want and make peace with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:55 AM
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The discussion doesn’t have to be private. It’s an open forum for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:55 AM
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But a lot of the pp bros you deem as weirdos are accepted by the movement. The only ones I’ve seen unanimously ostracized are the pedos. The sexpats/sex tourists are accepted. Some passport bros may dislike them but they still accept them as fellows. They just deem them bad fellows.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:52 AM
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Just as men overlook insanity if the woman is hot or even if she’s ugly with good puss. For normal people who try to be aware of red flags the things silly Sheila listed are dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:49 AM
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That’s not my personal opinion. That’s simply what they say to justify themselves. I’m just pointing out the rebranding attempts to try and normalize it to the public. I agree it’s disgusting. I’m just illustrating how this isn’t something that was “tried” past tense. It’s actively going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:46 AM
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They still try to do that by calling themselves MAPs and saying it’s ok to be that way if they don’t act on it. Every once in a while too a news article will come out as if they’re testing the waters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:44 AM
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You came to my comment dude. You can fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:43 AM
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They call themselves passport bros. They give themselves that label. Which is why I said earlier this is seeming like the no true Scotsman’s fallacy. You can dislike what they do under that label but at the end of the day they’re still choosing to align themselves with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:40 AM
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One that wasn’t posed to you. You gave an unsolicited opinion, I gave unsolicited advice. We’re even.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:39 AM
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I know they’re pedophiles, I explicitly stated so. They’re pedophiles taking advantage of lackluster legal systems abroad to victimize minors. Things they’d be more quickly caught doing in the west, they can get away with longer in the Caribbean, Latam, south East Asia, Africa etc. I know some passport bros have genuine intentions I don’t have issues with those one. However a lot don’t. Passport bros is a large umbrella and it covers many different types of men good and bad. I’m apathetic toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:35 AM
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They’re legitimate suggestions and why would I fuck off when you replied to my comment directed at another person? I didn’t summon you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:27 AM
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They’re not always going for prostitutes though. They’re going for unprotected individuals that they can groom. If it’s possible to groom poor kids in the west imagine what you can do in poor towns with little to no functioning police presence and a horrible foster care system. A lot of those kids aren’t prostitutes they’re just easily exploitable because they don’t have anyone looking out for them. So they’re more at risk to being groomed into an illicit relationship with ill-intended adults wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:26 AM
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I’m saying you can skip all of that. Get a pocket pussy or sex doll. What career field are you in? If you have marketable skills you can get a good job in another country with legal prostitution. Or seek out AGP individuals with bottom surgery online.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:20 AM
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You don’t need to date women for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:08 AM
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So don’t date women. You don’t have to, save yourself the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:05 AM
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So you say.This seems like a no true Scotsman situation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:05 AM
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How did you get that one? I didn’t see that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:48 PM
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I’ve never been on either side of this situation so I can’t say from direct experience. To take a guess though the women who do sleep with you on first dates seem to not be looking for anything serious and they’re assuming you’re not either. So when you try to escalate it ruins the fun and the dip. It was supposed to be NSA sex and you went off script. You may find a woman who is what you’re looking for but you’re going to have to make peace with being patient and waiting a while. Try expanding …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:33 PM
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You don’t have to date losers to know. Just have brothers, male cousins, male friends around the same age who will tell you or meet boy moms and dads who raised the men in this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:25 PM
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Do you want to hit a woman? If so how often do you fantasize about doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:24 PM
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For me personally. I never enjoyed casual sex. So I always waited to see what the guys intentions were and how he was feeling. It also gave me enough time to dig into his background and have information come back to make my decision on whether I should continue to date him or ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:18 PM
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I only have an issue with two types the ones who don’t commit all the way. As in leaving the country for good and permanently living overseas.Then the ones who are legitimate pedophiles taking advantage of inadequate(in the case of countries like my birth one) or nonexistent legal infrastructure to diddle kids abroad.The rest I don’t really care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:18 PM
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Yeah my life would’ve been wayyy easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:18 PM
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Simps are the only men worth dating. Who wants to be with a man who hates them and would make their life a living hell? Maybe people who love chaos but people who value peace in their relationships should simp and date simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:16 PM
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And no periods. Being able to have a kid with less expense etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:35 PM
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Being repulsed by something doesn’t mean you don’t understand it. I understand scat fetishes. Doesn’t stop my stomach from turning at the thought of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:27 PM
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It’s definitely not and it’s time to evolve past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:51 PM
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There are female equivalents to almost everything you listed. Why there are soo many stalkers who are man but very few who are women. Women stalk to. Many just cyber stalk vs physically following their victims. They can still find out the same level of information. Why men care more about a woman bodycount and talk about seeing her as pure, cute, inocent but women don't want an inocent , cute man, they want a dominant, masculine man which from my point of view doesn't sound romantic. Both of hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:51 PM
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It’s a sickness. To be so lust fueled that you subject yourself to unnecessary annoyances just in the pursuit of an orgasm that you can achieve in other ways. Ways with much less hassle and risk to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:37 PM
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I don’t hate him. He used to be my favorite parent and I didn’t understand why my mom was so mean to him. I always took his side and sympathized with him more when they’d fight before the divorce. After growing up and now getting to know both my parents with adult eyes I view him very differently. He’s irresponsible, lazy(outside of his special interests), incompetent, and flaky but with lofty ideals/ambitions. For example my parents have 3 kids(me and my younger siblings) I found out from both …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:37 PM
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I do understand. It’s a sickness. I’d rather be boiled alive than impaled with the flesh rod of someone who annoys me. Or for me to impale them with a rod. Unless you’re into hate fucking none of that sounds enjoyable. Even then there has to be a limit. You’re probably paying anyway to some degree. Whether it’s the gas/bus fare to meet up, or dinner and drinks. For that same price you get a custom video of your name being moaned to use with sex toys. It can serve as a placeholder until you find …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:28 PM
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So why say it’s a one way street? Something men have to deal with but not women? Edit: Disregard I just read the usernames and realized you’re not the guy that made the og comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:23 PM
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Ok, fair enough then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:20 PM
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It’s better if your only options are annoying people and you use it in conjunction with toys. Plus you can get a custom video with a woman moaning your name cheaper than the cost of several bad first dates. Even if you guys split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:19 PM
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You can get that from women you don’t find annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:19 PM
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To date women that don’t annoy him for starters. Or he could watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:50 PM
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This is not true at all. It might just depend on where you live. Some bigger cities men will get real spicy if you don’t do what they want. Not always to the point of violence but all the vitriol, hurt and resentment they feel towards women(specific individuals or in general) pops out in those moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:49 PM
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Why would you get involved with women that annoy you to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:55 PM
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There’s a few but you usually have to be vetted to get into them. If you’re not a woman you’ll barely be informed about their existence. Let alone be invited close up enough to observe. A lot of them are also formed via word of mouth by women inviting other women in their communities to join in. Then they bring in their friends and so on. So there’s not a lot of attention on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:07 PM
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Nope I definitely wouldn’t have existed. Their dating lives would look a little bit similar to now. My mom would’ve definitely been happier. She would have dated around before marrying an above average earning guy and the child she would’ve had(if she had one) would be living the high life with a rich dad. I only say this because she remarried to a guy that pays all her bills as a single mom of 3 in her late thirties. So she’d have done the same or better as a 20 something year old child free wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:58 PM
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She'd have to eliminate stressors and be cheap enough so his net person savings that she can't touch is not negatively impacted. Possible, but unlikely. It’s not unlikely. It’s quite common. The gold diggers you see having long term success are this type. The goal of most gold diggers is maximum resource extraction of sufficient amount to avoid his bankruptcy or angering him until she's ready to financially kill her host via divorce rape or she awaits his death. These are unsuccessful gold digge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:59 PM
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There's no financial resource or benefit being transferred. Free food, gifts, travel and housing are benefits being transferred in the same way a wife or girlfriend benefits from her breadwinning partner. No, there's a subtle difference. There’s no difference they say they can’t get western women because western women’s standards are too high. They struggle with dating in the west but not abroad or that they thought they were an incel but they were just in the wrong country etc. Sexpats and pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:51 PM
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Gold diggers don’t inherently make men’s lives harder. Sometimes they make it easier it depends on what kind of gold digger she is. Same with women seeking support for their children. The relationship can be parasitic or mutually beneficial. For example a gold digger who alleviates stressors in a man’s live so he can focus on making money for her, vs a gold digger that stresses a man out and spends more than he can afford. The first is mutualism, the second is parasitism. Same w/kids. If a man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:11 PM
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No, because no payment is received. There is, in the same sense you were condemning earlier. The western man is the one footing the bill to go see women abroad, arrange the dates and a place for them to say. Earlier you said it’s still prostitution even if you don’t receive money in hand but resources and benefits instead. By your own words it’s sex work. False. I've seen the hate when they say "you go to Asia because you can't get a Western girl". That’s not hate. That’s literally repeating wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 07:02 PM
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I mean harder overall. As in financially, emotionally, socially and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:05 PM
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Go where the demand is. So it’s sec work? It has nothing to do with "hurt" anymore than a business that pursues markets with low competition. Western women hate it out of racism and resenting competition. Western women don’t hate it and they’re not racist. They’re just disgusted and wish the men would move in silence and not come back. It has everything to do with hurt for men. Which is why they go on the tirades they do and they troll western women. No; I never took the legal stance. You ignore…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:04 PM
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They didn’t have the same terminology for it but it was still the same thing. There were women who said not when they meant no, women who said no when they didn’t mean it and women who said no but just succumbed to their fate if it wasn’t respected. Now there’s labels for all these things but it’s still the same pattern of behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:29 PM
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You don’t have to be a prostitute to avoid sleeping with men who’d make your life harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:32 PM
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That’s still a CNC kink no matter which way you try to slice it. They don’t want you to respect their No. They’re consenting to you disrespecting their consent. For the people that are into that, that’s their business but people who engage in that in a healthy manner communicate it first and explain the parameters. You can’t expect someone to ignore you saying no because you like that when they literally don’t even know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:30 PM
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It’s not unfair. It’s calling a spade a spade. Whether it came from romance novels, sexual trauma, porn, their own sexuality or whatever else. It’s still a CNC kink. Like all links it’s weird and irresponsible to expect others to engage with it with no communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:15 PM
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They expect that because they’re weirdos who think their CNC kink is common enough to be understood and engaged in without any prior communication. I primarily mentioned men because women are on the more passive end when it comes to this issue. They’re usually not the ones approaching women pushing past their no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:05 PM
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No I mean in the terms of you theory. You’re saying that a guy is going to shaming a woman not for sleeping with him by for sleeping with others. The only way he’d know is if you are sleeping with other people and telling him. He wouldn’t know for sure but he’d suspect. Men view women’s behavior that’s presented as consistent with who the woman is until proven otherwise. So if she waits for sex he’ll think she always does until something makes him suspect otherwise. If she has sex quickly he’ll …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:57 PM
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No there’s a lot of publicly available information online about people. Even if the guy is a private person, he may have a friend or family member that isn’t so I’d often find stuff out that way. Some companies also sell your information and it’ll end up online for public viewing. Try googling your full name some time it’s crazy what you’ll find sometimes. Then there’s also county websites. If you know the guys full name and enough personally identifying information you can look up his marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:39 PM
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Probably not in our lifetime. Who knows what the future holds though. Technological advancements will change the sexual/romantic dynamics between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:34 PM
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Not my problem. My only point is that despite the sexual revolution slut shaming hasn’t gone as far away as people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:31 PM
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Yes it’s really refreshing to see more of us here because it adds a different perspective to things. Everything you said was spot on as well. If financial independence renders a man obsolete that means he offers nothing else to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:30 PM
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The assertion is just ridiculous. So you agree your logic is ridiculous. If you're asexual it makes sense though, you're not considering that women cab have sex drives too. I understand women have sex drives. Which is why I brought up the fact that women with provider husbands also enjoy sex with their husbands. Your logic fell apart here.You pick and choose when to acknowledge sexual enjoyment. No, you're at the beginning, and you will be until you have kids and are post-wall. Depending on who …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:29 PM
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Fair enough. I think you’re spot on though considering he never answered. I don’t understand though why independence is so often conflated with isolation and stoicism. You can be capable of doing something yourself and still accept help offered because it’s nice to not have to do it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:20 PM
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Not at all. You met the definition of prostitution by your own statements. I have said nothing about porn use whatsoever. FYI though, I very rarely view porn since I'm too drained from sex with real women to care. I definitely didn’t as I even quoted the definition to you. By your own statements you admitted to cherry picking to suit your arguments. I used the same parameters for my porn/sex addict comments that you did for your prostitution comments. You're at the very beginning, its not "gone"…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:11 PM
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I’m confused. Are you going to be sleeping with other men or talking about the men you slept with while seeing this person? I’m not sure if you’re asking about my specific life because I’m speaking in general. If you mean “you” in the general sense. Then it depends on the woman. Most would cut off the other dudes to focus on the one she really likes. You’re really over thinking this though. If someone is going to judge you for having sex they’re going to do it regardless of when you choose to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:59 PM
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You need a balance of both. You need similarity in the major things. Religious views, political views, how many children to have or if you should have any at all, core values, financial goals, retirement plan, conflict resolution, communication styles etc. Polarity in other aspects like hobbies, personality types, love languages, food and travel preferences etc can keep things interesting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:57 PM
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Date her girl crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:53 PM
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The same place your prostitution comment came from. It’s already gone and is going better than I could ever hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 PM
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I’m sure it does to people with porn addictions. In reality though, I communicated this upfront so the men I seriously dated(including my fiancé) know what’s up. I’m not interested in a lust based connection. I’m interested in an emotional connection with a responsible like minded person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:33 PM
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He thinks he’s an exception that’s why. He won’t judge you for sex until/when he finds out he’s norm. Even then he won’t judge you for having sex with him, he’ll judge you for having sex with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:31 PM
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Nope. A mutual decision to be together is formed based on our personality compatibility and goal alignment. I’m asexual. My fiancé and I aren’t together because of sex, we’re together because our visions for life and a family match up. Your obsession with porn and sex perverts you into thinking smart family planning is prostitution. I hope you don’t tell women to choose wisely when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:28 PM
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The guy doesn’t shame you for having sex with him. He shames you for being promiscuous. He’ll use a couple metrics to judge promiscuity 1 of which is having sex “too fast”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:26 PM
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I’d check to see if they are or were married, secret kids, snooping to see how much of what they say matches up, deep dive of their socials and their closest friends etc. plus 2 std tests and if they refused or tried to tell me their ex didn’t have anything that was answer enough to drop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:25 PM
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So slut shaming still exists
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:21 PM
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It’s an unhealthy expectation that more than enough men and women don’t hold. Stay away from people who think no is a grey zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:20 PM
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If he does write you off he won’t. The man may not be hypocritical. Maybe he’s chaste and that’s why he prefers chaste women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:18 PM
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Liberty was dead long before I was born. Whats idiotic is blindly letting others into your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:16 PM
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Taking care of the family you choose to create isn’t prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:15 PM
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Meaning the shame has no effect which means your logic doesn’t make sense. Like I also told the other guy. You’re confusing macro and micro scale. Macro scale the shaming doesn’t work because most women don’t care about the opinions of random men they don’t want or care about. Micro scale it works and it’s why some women are incentivized to lie and game play when it comes to men they desire. Also as a mani don’t feel shamed for watching pornography. Only time I’ve heard of porn being shameful is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:56 PM
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Meaning the shame has no effect which means your logic doesn’t make sense. Like I also told the other guy. You’re confusing macro and micro scale. Macro scale the shaming doesn’t work because most women don’t care about the opinions of random men they don’t want or care about. Micro scale it works and it’s why some women are incentivized to lie and game play when it comes to men they desire. Also as a mani don’t feel shamed for watching pornography. Only time I’ve heard of porn being shameful is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:37 PM
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About what specifically? Deceptive men. If it's the choosing shitty men thing, it's because we see right through them. Just as women can see right through shitty women. It’s easier to see the actions of your own group for what it is because people are generally more authentic in their interactions with the same sex. There’s not as much incentive to deceive them as there is with the opposite sex. Although there are exceptions. You're strong and independent, I expect you to be able to judge men's …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:29 PM
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Yes. As I told the other guy. Shaming someone doesn’t mean they will feel ashamed. It’s like how many women shame men for their porn consumption, yet the porn industry rakes in billions annually mainly off the pockets of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:25 PM
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Nah, we used to be more understanding. At least in my lifetime, I remember high school was pretty harmonious. Then "mattress girl" and all that shit hit and dating has turned into this cesspool it currently is. People used to not be addicted to social media and social validation and things were better. I don’t ever remember men being more understanding. As long as I’ve been alive and aware of my existence there’s been groups of men who lied to get what they want out of women. When women complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:19 PM
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You're acting like shaming women is a negative action, that's why. I’m not. I’m acting like it’s something that is done. Whether you feel that it’s positive or negative is up to you. I'd argue shame is a healthy emotion that women have tried to rid themselves of. Women still have shame. It’s why the beauty industry is so lucrative without having nearly as much innovation as other industries. What they feel shame about just changes with the time and culture. Really, is that why women get emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:15 PM
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So if it has no effect, why do you fish care what us bicycles have to say? You’re confusing macro and micro scale. Macro scale most women don’t care, which is where you’re seeing the shaming have no effect. Micro scale though, they will care. Meaning if it’s a man they want who holds those views they’ll be incentivized to lie to get that they want because they care about the opinions of specific men they like, but not the opinions of men as a general class. Everybody stops wasting their time a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:13 PM
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Men already do think that way and have been this way for decades. Why they’re surprised women are like this too is beyond me. I don’t complain I adapt. When I was single I knew the dating atmosphere was like this so I did background checks on every man I dated and would note down significant things they would say so I could double back and ask a few weeks later to see if their answer was the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:07 PM
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Why is "disdain" a bad thing? You tell me. My statement was neutral. You assumed it was coded as bad. Why is that? Yes, sexually promiscuous women disgust me. That doesn't mean I think I have the power to stop them or will tell them off or anything, I'm just not going to engage with them. Why is that a bad thing? That’s for you to decide. My personal opinion on the matter has no bearing on anyone but myself. I was just making an observation, which you bolstered by admitting promiscuous women dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:05 PM
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Which is why the percentage of you with double digit bodies before first marriage has gone up to 18% among women? How can you say you are shamed for your sexuality? It's clearly having no effect. Shaming someone doesn’t mean the shaming will be successful. Women shame men for being porn obsessed yet porn is still a multi billion dollar industry with thousands of new videos made every year and men are the primary consumers. Shaming just means you negatively stigmatize someone for doing something.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:02 PM
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If you’re looking to find a provider post “wall” then yes the fucking grandpas. They’re statically unlikely to get a woman in her 20s or 30s. A woman in her 40s, especially a put together one, is still younger and hotter than his female peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:00 PM
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Oh. If you’re pretty as a young woman the same applies as an older woman you just switch up the game. You’ll always be younger and hotter to someone. For example if you’re 40 instead of going for 40 year old men. Get a mommy makeover and go for men 65+ with kids. The wall stops nothing but your ability to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:52 PM
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🧱?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:50 PM
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Luck isn’t as much of a factor as you think. It’s beauty, charm and knowing your audience. It’s why you see women who are genuinely invested in having a provider getting one after the other. They know what they’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:46 PM
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I tried to make the same username with my actual birth year because I like cupcakes and it’s part of my business but it was taken. So I made the same thing but changed the year to 1985 because I like the 80s aesthetic and it was free so here we are! (:
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:43 PM
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If they’re unmarried it’s extremely easy to leave. Even with a provider. If she’s pretty enough to get a man to pay all her bills she’s pretty enough to leave him. Most women in that situation stay miserable until they find a job then dump their partner and move out they struggle for a bit. Eventually though they either decide they want to be independent and build themselves financially or they find another provider. So that struggle doesn’t last long
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:41 PM
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You're, what, almost 40 now? The world has changed a lot since you were young. I’m not even 30 yet. The only things that have changed is the language used to shame women’s sexuality and women are slightly less complicit in shaming other women for promiscuity. Overall though men are still very vocal about their disdain for “sluts.” I don't think most men will view you as promiscuous for agreeing to his sexual advances. Most would because they’d assume you’re always like that with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:39 PM
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If they get bored they just leave. Men have more incentive to cheat because it’s harder for them to find a stable sexual “replacement”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:36 PM
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Womens “bitching” doesn’t make men honest. So as the saying goes if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:34 PM
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It makes sense in a world where women are explicitly or implicitly shamed for their sexuality. Most assume that the worst of how you’re acting is how you always act. So if you’re dating a guy that doesn’t like promiscuous women and you sleep with him fast he’ll gladly accept the sex but he’ll write you off. The only thing stupid about it is not moving on after the incompatibilities are discovered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:33 PM
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Neither of these things are done without shame in real life and I highly doubt they ever will be. The best you’ll ever get is people from your “faction” defending you against outsiders shaming you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:31 PM
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That definitely applies to them as well. As many of them are looking for minors too. A lot of them also do the same thing western men do where they treat their spouses like a rescue animal instead of a human being. It’s just less common because western women tend to date in more privileged countries where she wouldn’t have as much to hold over the man’s head I don’t care if men leave the west. I’m an immigrant too and I’m engaged to a child of an immigrant. I’m simply speaking the truth. The reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:09 PM
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Yep the halo effect is very real
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:55 PM
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Yep I have a friend like this. She’s introverted with bad anxiety. She will say no but she’s timid and if the first 2 no’s aren’t respected she panics. So we’ll swoop in if we see she’s uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:38 PM
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I’ll explain my experiences and you can be the judge. I used to be super skinny with acne. Then I had a “glow up” journey. I’d still get sexually propositioned but didn’t really get the day to day politeness that women give each other and men give each other and pretty women. When I was skinny and acne ridden dudes would let the door shut in my face even if they saw me coming behind them, they’d never say thanks if I held the door for them. In school they’d publicly make fun of how I look then t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:37 PM
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No problem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:25 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:25 PM
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They may not inherently respect the friend, they just back down because now he’s drawn negative attention. Or if the friend is just making up an excuse there’s nothing for him to respect as he can’t stop someone from leaving to go to their friends cats gallbladder surgery. And there’s usually more drama if a woman is saying no by herself vs if her friends step in. At least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:22 PM
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No men are just generally nicer to you if you’re prettier. I’ve been on both sides of the spectrum so I can say this with confidence. If you’re the type to internalize peoples treatment of you, you’re going to start dishing it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:21 PM
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They can get sex and they have more options for dating but they’re not getting monetary perks of their looks alone. To put it into perspective. An average man won’t get asked out for just sex, an average girl will get asked to “chill” at a man’s crib, a hot girl will have a plethora of suitors begging her to let them pay to sniff her dirty underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:51 PM
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I still don't get why the girl just don't say she is not interested and why she needs the friend to do the job. If a man has a woman alone. Even if there’s people around but they’re not paying attention he’s more likely to try and push past her no and keep trying to convince her. If there’s other people paying attention or someone else steps in he’s more likely to drop it because he doesn’t want to risk public embarrassment. Similarly if she has her friend make up an excuse for them to leave he …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:48 PM
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If she’s emotionally wounded. Like her primary parent or both parents treated her like crap and she internalized it and never healed. Any point. Emotional abuse is her comfort zone and she’ll feel she only deserves to be treated like crap and be uncomfortable if you treat her kindly. If she’s emotionally healthy then it will be a turnoff if you turn into a complete yes man that never has any opinions and always does what she says. She’ll want give and take and if you’re only giving and never tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:43 PM
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They’re dishing back the same treatment they get from men. Or unleashing their anger and resentment when they get a chance. It’s basically the adage “when the bullied becomes the bully”. It’s similar to how many incels are more outwardly hostile and resentful to women than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:37 PM
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Kinda nasty to use your friend for nasty job just to protect your image as "nice", though. Depends on the dynamics of the friend group. Sometimes the girls are equally attractive but to different audiences. So they both do it for each other when they time calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:36 PM
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Didn’t see that one. My b
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:34 PM
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Yeah but it’s also applicable to under 40. I’m just saying it’s especially true for over 40. Women in their prime do go to Africa, they also go to South America and the Caribbean. You just won’t see them in south East Asia(as in Cambodia, Thailand, Philippines etc.) East Asia though you’ll find more these days because of the BTS craze and the rise in popularity of East Asian rom coms. Their relationships are no more “faux” than a man over 40 going abroad. Both people are middle aged individuals …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:34 PM
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Average girls can not capitalize on this unless they invest in their looks to be above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:31 PM
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If this is the case they usually signal the friend off. If it’s a recurring pattern of behavior the friend gets dropped for being jealous and attempting to sabotage. In the majority of cases though what lift and lurk said is correct. The friend getting hit on isn’t interested but she doesn’t want to be the “bad guy” and cause a scene so she signals her friend(s) to be an excuse to get away from the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:30 PM
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They’re dishing back the same treatment they get from men. Or unleashing their anger and resentment when they get a chance. It’s basically the adage “when the bullied becomes the bully”. It’s similar to how many incels are more outwardly hostile and resentful to women than other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:27 PM
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It’s not arrogant it’s accurate. I’m from a region where this kind of stuff happens and a lot of the men coming are predatory. They have no intentions of being good husbands. They treat the women like rescue animals they can mistreat because it’s “better than the shithole she came from. Many don’t even intend to be husbands at all. They come to sexually exploit minors in a country where it’s less likely the law will catch them. Western women aren’t arrogant for acknowledging that. Especially whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:25 PM
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If you’re talking South East Asia this is true. However there’s overlap in western men and women dating in South America, the Caribbean, and Africa. It’s not considered a downgrade. Especially among the over 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:22 PM
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It’s because one of the biggest draws western men have is that their passports, country of origin citizenship and national currency’s go a lot further in poorer non-western countries than the reverse. Even if you’re a literal terrible man, making poverty wages in your home country and you’re completely emotionally unprepared to have a healthy relationship you still have allure in non-western communities because your worst is still better than the worst of a lot of poor non-western countries. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:21 PM
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It’s because it’s disadvantageous to mens sexual strategy. Which is to sleep with a many women as possible with a little investment as possible(whether that investment is monetary, time or emotional). Waiting to see if you and the person are actually compatible in terms of values, goals, love languages etc before muddying the waters with sexual confusion makes it harder to do the aforementioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:14 PM
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I think it will be used more to blackmail and harass people. Deepfakes are getting better and better and people are already using it to make porn of people they know. It’ll only get worse from there. Especially now that you can deepfake voices as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:11 PM
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It depends on how much the woman in question cares about her guys friends romantic/sexual feelings towards her. I proactively cut off all my guy friends that had anything more than platonic/familial feelings towards me. Some women do the same but reactively. As in they’ll cut him off if he confesses but they don’t go digging to find out whether he’s attracted to her or not. Then other women will still be friends with a guy knowing he likes her. I’d say overall though it’s 50/50. If you have 10 g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:10 PM
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They usually say we can be friends “if you want” so it’s up to the guy to take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:05 PM
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Calling them shallow, man/woman- hating, entitled etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:03 PM
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If you want to view it that way yeah. It’s more about demanding vs expectation vs desire though. If you don’t demand your partner do certain things, but you desire it and only date people who’d fit that it’s not sexism. If you demand or expect it though and frame it as something all people of X gender/sex should do then it becomes sexism. For example you want a woman who cooks and cleans. So you only date women who enjoy doing that fit their partners. You don’t cast judgment on women who don’t. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:01 PM
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They are. Women who treat men differently after men deny them something are deemed as entitled, stuck up, deemed as examples of the “delusional and narcissistic modern female” etc. The same is applicable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:58 PM
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I had to break it up because it was getting too long. Anyway we’re going in circles. I know men especially lower earning ones have a vested interested in guilt tripping and shaming women into staying in line. So they’ll make up nonsense about considering finances being prostitution. When in reality it’s being smart. It’s stupid to waste your youth, beauty and fertility on a man who will make your life worse. All the pitfalls of rich men also apply to poor men, but the same is not true for the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:29 PM
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The meth example was not tied to legality but rather the meth house and the street dealer parasitically consume customers' health like gold diggers parasitically consume financial resources. It is tied ti legality though as they’re illegal operations in most countries and the street dealer and the meth house owner would be treated differently by the law once caught. Even though they’re both dealing drugs one has a much more large scale operation that’s much more impactful and would yield a highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:24 PM
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No, because the ideology is "no alimony". Women want alimony to exist, so men laugh a women who get hit with it. No hypocrisy. False. It’s complete hypocrisy if the idea was no alimony. They wouldn’t be celebrating regardless. People who are anti-draft don’t celebrate men getting drafted. Men are hypocrites in regards to alimony as they’re not anti-alimony. They’re simply anti-men paying alimony. If you want more examples there’s the contempt men have for struggling mothers(single or married) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:24 PM
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Nope. They want to see victims of their own ideologies, like watching an aggressive driver crash their vehicle and then laughing about it. Yes so it’s ok for them but not for others. Since they also are aggressive drivers but laugh at other aggressive drivers. You’re partaking in the ideology and celebrating it. When one hypocrictically denounces prostitutes then uses semantic indirection to be a prostitute without the label then yeah its an issue. They’re not prostitutes. You’re stretching thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:32 PM
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I did read your full comment. When I said leaving the west, I don't really mean physically. I mean expanding your options beyond the west, whether that's through some passport feature on dating apps or whatever. Let's say you had the option to play two different types of lotteries for big money. In one lottery, your chances of winning are 1 out of 10. And the other lottery your chances of winning are 11 out of 200. Which one would you choose? (Don't dodge this question.) I’d play both. So I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:29 AM
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Get a taste of your own medicine" is not a double standard. It is. The crux of it is. “Ok for me but not for thee” Transactionality in relationships involving money is the lowest form of transactionalism, prostitution. It seems you rationalize being a prostitute. So as I said you just don’t like transactional relationships that trigger you. It’s ok if it fits under what you morally jive with but not ok when it doesn’t. The hypocrisy is that FDS hates porn and prostitutes but they want to be pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:22 AM
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This just is true. Half the women I’ve talked to who get into FWBs don’t catch feelings for the guy. Some do and it’s a toss up on whether or not it turns into a relationship. The rest though like the guy sexually but there’s 1(or several things) turning them off from wanting to date him and claim him publicly. You see thousands of men complaining about fuck girls. They just call them 304s, thots or whatever other culturally relevant colloquialism they choose to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:18 AM
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That’s obvious given how many of them hate women. Red pillers claim it’s not a feature just a bug because those men are stuck in the “anger phase”. I don’t buy it for once second. They have a vested interest in mainstream society and women not seeing them a certain way. So they’ll lie about things when the opportunity arises. They sing a different tune when they think they’re exclusively among each other though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:16 AM
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Ok fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:10 PM
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Well I’m engaged so I don’t mean me personally. I’m just asking out of curiosity to see where men on here are coming from and what they mean when they say things like this. From my perspective it seems they yearn for things women already do, just not for them. So they mistakenly conflate things women don’t do for them, as things women don’t do period. Inviting someone out is a little different than planning a full date though. Inviting them out is asking them to tag along to something you were g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:09 PM
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Would you actually respect a woman like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:03 PM
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Ok if this is the standard I’m confused then. I totally had the wrong idea. I thought you meant more assertive actions. Stuff like asking men on dates, planning it, picking him up etc. All the stuff you listed women already do for men they like and feel comfortable around either platonically or romantically. So this doesn’t really seem like “pushing”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:01 PM
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I agree 100%. I’d add guys that were obese but then got in shape or men who had skin and dental issues that they fixed in their 30s to this list as well. For the most part though majority of guys look better in their 20s than in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:47 PM
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The same way men condemn alimony but celebrate when women are paying a man alimony. People have double standards. Doesn’t change the fact that majority of relationships are transactional in some form. It seems you just take issue with the types of transactions you don’t like. The comments are clearly condemning it and suspecting the OP of being a troll so this didn’t negate my point. Plus the alleged husband isn’t sick. Edit: to add to it too. Generally sugar babies/sahw provide more services th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:46 PM
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Can you give some examples? I think I may know what you mean but I’d like to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:37 PM
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What’s the medium? A transaction is still involved in nearly every level. The difference just lies in what two people are trading off. Some exchanges may be more palatable to you than others depending on your cultural upbringing. My last paragraph is the FDS way once you’re in an actual LTR. They wouldn’t do it for a guy they’re just casually seeing. After an engagement or marriage though it’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:36 PM
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You're diluting your odds of success by leaving the west to include a pool with a worse ratio. Seems you didn’t read my full comment. So many dating apps these days have international/passport features. So you don’t necessarily have to leave the west to peruse the other options. Leaving the west isn’t a bad thing anyway. You can date western and non-western men near simultaneously. Date in the west during your day to day grind and if you take overseas vacations date there too. That maximizes you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:34 PM
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All relationships are transactional. Unconditional love only exists in fairy tales. Nearly every person on this earth has some sort of terms and conditions for dating them. What they are specifically vary from person to person. The consistent thing is though if you don’t abide by their terms/standards you’re not getting a relationship. I doubt he’ll get sick of me with age. I thoroughly tested him to make sure he’s not one of those guys that’s forever attracted to teens/early 20s exclusively. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:28 PM
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Sounds more like you’re covertly wishing me ill will. But thanks I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:19 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:13 PM
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Not at all. Most women aren’t attractive enough for men to seriously pursue for a quality healthy relationship. So many just genuinely have no suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:11 PM
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What do you consider pushing for a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:11 PM
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I added context for the seque into my main point. Which is that you should keep your pool expansive if you truly want the best chance at finding an egalitarian man. Let’s say there’s 100 egalitarian men that could be a match for you in the US and 10 in Lebanon. Including both countries gives you 110 options to pick from vs 100. So it’s not inherently “worse” to leave the west as you’re opening yourself up to the possibility of finding a good match by including all possible options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:08 PM
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The majority of them are. Even if a long term relationship springs from it that’s what they’re going overseas for and if you’ve ever seen their lives or social media posts they’ll tell you that themselves. They don’t call themselves sex tourists but if you’re traveling in pursuit of sexual relationships that’s what you are. It’s not a new phenomenon. Social media just put a spotlight on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:06 PM
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Yes, I’m engaged and in a very healthy relationship. That’s why I know it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:05 PM
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You don’t have to play your hand. You just remain strategically vague, flirty and coy so the men you date show you their true selves until you find a compatible guy. You just keep a certain amount of distance so you can evaluate them with a clear head and curate your dating pool to consist purely of men who don’t have any of your dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:43 PM
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Which is crazy to me because even if you’re ignorant of contemporary and historical examples of polygyny failing, just basic knowledge of the world population should tell you why that wouldn’t work. There’s not nearly enough women in the world for every man to have 2 wives. Plus the only societies that have managed to do it “successfully” have shortages of men due to war or genocide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:52 PM
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You don’t actually say that to a man. It’s like how red pill and mgtow men don’t tell a woman they’re red pill or mgtow. You may say that online to vent because it’s cathartic. Offline though you just silently employ the tactics. You should just keep a list of dealbreakers in your head. For example if you don’t want to go on drink dates and you want expensive dinner dates, just reject all the guys that ask you on drink dates and only accept dinner date offers and hype the guy up so he keeps doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:49 PM
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What I'm trying to point out is that, being part of a society, and acknowledging the fact that relationships are things that happen with other members of that society, you have to expect that at some point you're going to either a) want a relationship and have to deal with interacting with people to get it, or b) accept that someone else may try to do that to you. That's just a fact, it's how the world is. Sure but to a degree you can curate these things on your own terms. Combine that with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:49 PM
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So you’d be within your rights to avoid it like some men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:41 PM
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Are you being facetious or do you know that for a fact. I ask because some of what they say does work. You just have to take the good parts of it and mix it with other stuff. Some of the stuff they say there I personally employed while dating and it works but you have to mix it with several things for dating success. Like some of the advice on R/vindicta, sheraseven on YouTube etc. FDS is a good starting point for women who are chronic people pleasers to unlearn that but self-development shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:41 PM
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Yes, but it's broader than that: for any kind of reward for living in society you have to take that risk. You want to be in a public place? Risk. You want to have a job? Risk. You want to go to the club? Risk. Everything has a risk of being interacted with by people you didn't choose to be interacted with, because that's what society is. None of this means you have to tell the man no directly when he approaches you. Sure being outside means you risk men approaching but you can lie, give fake con…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:06 PM
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My only point is you don’t know what a woman has experienced in terms of rejecting men. You may know you’re a great guy, but as terrible as it sounds you’re just one of many. From her perspective she doesn’t know if you’ll take the rejection politely and move on, if you’ll curse her out, or if you’ll get violent. All she knows is that the approach is starting out similar to any other and the end result is unknown. So if she doesn’t feel like playing Russian roulette that day she’ll give you her …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:59 AM
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Nope, which is why you take precautions when doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:51 AM
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That saying no isn’t always safe and if you’re not sure if it is or not it’s better to be cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:48 AM
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A lot of men are afraid of other men. They’re also afraid of women too. I know my response is proportionate because I used to think like you and it got me stalked more than once and nearly attacked another time. So now I’ve change my approach to rejections. If a man doesn’t take the first 2 no’s politely I flash whatever weapon I have on me or if I’m unarmed I make il heinous and disgusting lies about myself that would turn any man off. Ever since making those changes I’ve had no bad incidents w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:47 AM
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As I’ve maintained in the beginning “occasionally” is more than enough to breed caution. You don’t know what the men approaching you are capable of. 99 could be nice while 1 can be violent. Many of the women who were victims of violent men they directly rejected probably thought the same way as you. They probably thought it’s so uncommon that nothing would happen to them, until it did. Knowing that I’ll never judge women for being cautious. Especially when you look at some peoples responses to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:45 AM
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Nor does any man. Yes, that does happen, jealous women who have been rejected do sometimes kill or seriously wound men for having turned them down. I’m aware it happens and men who’ve experienced or been close to people who experience these things tend to be more cautious in their dealings with women. But that's not typical behaviour. We don't write off women and tell them to keep away from us just in case one might be a crazy bitch with a weapon. Because most aren't. It doesn’t have to be typic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:42 AM
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Is it always safe to tell someone no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:38 AM
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It’s a frequency vs severity thing. Most men when getting rejected will cuss you out at worst. The ones who do worse than that though are so ridiculously insane that women would rather just give their number to every man that asks and block than risk ever having to deal with that again. For me personally I’ve been stalked and nearly physically attack(at a bus stop with other people around of all things). It’s only a few men that have acted like this in the swathes that have approached but the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:37 AM
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So that tells me men should be wary of strange men too. Also you’re confusing what I’m saying. If a woman is approached once by a woman and once by a man. It’s more likely the man will harm her than the woman would. Men don’t have to attack most women for it to be a concern. Women are told all the time to take more accountability for their safety. So that’s why it’s best to be wary around men. If you get approached by 100 men and 99 are safe but 1 isn’t and you don’t know which 1 is the one craz…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:34 AM
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It’s not super rare at all. There’s women that enjoy sex and they’ll use a man for that but they’d rather die alone than be in a relationship with that same man. For many of the same reasons men regard women in that manner. It’s because the person is attractive and a good lay, but they’d be a huge liability in terms of a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:31 AM
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It’s not the same thing at all. There a men women evaluate as a good sexual partner, men who are a good romantic partner and men who are good at both. Who she has sex with doesn’t always give away which category you fall into.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:29 AM
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Isn’t the other comment talking about physical/sexual attraction. He’s right in that case. Most men peak at 25. After that their hair slowly starts balding/receding, skin quality degrades, virility decreases etc. You’re talking about holistic desirability which is a different ball game. You’ll be desirable as a stable life partner at 30-35 but that doesn’t change the fact that men typically look better in their 20s than they do in their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:28 AM
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You not liking it doesn’t mean it’s a logical fallacy. You don’t know how someone will react to something until they do. If you’ve never met the man before you don’t know how he’ll take the rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:21 AM
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It being public doesn’t matter. Tiarah Poyau was killed during a parade. Riley Whitelaw was killed at work where there were cameras. Plus she had reported the guy previously. This woman was also publicly attacked. I can go on and on. Location doesn’t matter to people that are genuinely crazy. If you don’t know them you don’t know what they’re capable of. Even if you do know them and you learn they don’t take kindly to being told “no”, you don’t know if a full on rejection will be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:21 AM
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It’s not my feelings, they’re facts. Globally women are mainly harmed by men. So it’s better to be cautious sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:17 AM
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This same thing happens when you’re a woman that loves a man more than he loves you. You pedestalize him and are easily exploitable. Being the partner that loves and cares more always leaves you in the more vulnerable position.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:15 AM
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The answer to this question depends on whether you’re a man or a woman. In relationships level of love will always fluctuate so even if you strive for equality of love one person will love the other more. From a woman’s perspective, you should be with a man who loves you more than you love him. It makes it easier to evaluate him with a clear head and be happy in the relationship.For men they’d probably say the same thing for similar reasons. Being the one more in love leaves you more open to exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:13 AM
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Yeah, but it’s probably dependent on the age of the men hitting on you and how big the city you live in is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:09 AM
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It’s both.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:08 AM
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By talking to them. Some men don’t take no well. You don’t know if they guy you’re rejected will take it peacefully or violently until he reacts. For some women they feel it’s better to be safe than sorry. So they’ll take the guys number or give him her number and then ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:08 AM
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So then it’s not safe to no. There’s a lot of crazy people in the world. No woman wants to be the next news story about getting punched in the head or shot because they rejected a guys advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:07 AM
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Plenty don’t. They’ll try to reject him but not all men take no for an answer and some women are too non confrontational to bust out a taser or a gun and start matching the guys crazy if he doesn’t leave. So they’ll say no but if he pesters they’ll give the number and block him, or give their social media and block him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:06 AM
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Do you feel the same way about women dehumanizing men to get what they want out of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:03 AM
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That’s obvious given how many of them hate women. Red pillers claim it’s not a feature just a bug because those men are stuck in the “anger phase”. I don’t buy it for once second. They have a vested interest in mainstream society and women not seeing them a certain way. So they’ll lie about things when the opportunity arises. They sing a different tune when they think they’re exclusively among each other though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:02 AM
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From what I’ve seen the men usually just do adapt to a western lifestyle. The only exception to this observation I’ve seen is western women marrying middle eastern men and moving to their husbands country. All other cases I’ve seen of international marriages involving western women the husband adapts to the wife. Largely because it takes a more open minded free spirited man to date a western woman in the first place. If they come from a culture that’s truly that traditionalist and patriarchal hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:00 AM
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The best is to expand your dating pool globally and have weed out tests. Ik you said notallmen. However the west having a higher proportion of egalitarian men doesn’t mean they’re non-existent in other countries. Its still better to include non-western men that it is to exclude them in terms of options. It’s not good to limit yourself especially these days where a lot of dating apps have an international/passport feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:55 AM
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They give self improvement advice as well and demanding more isn’t inherently bad advice. Let’s say you have 10 suitors but you want a particular type of treatment from a man. You have to find your niche and see which man’s dream ideal you fit the most or if you don’t currently who’s dream ideal is feasible for you to reach. Once you do that step come with your demands and the men who like your aesthetic and personality will either oblige or weed themselves out. So that way you’re 100% saved fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:53 AM
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This has been tried already and the reason monogamy is enforced is because polygamy that’s socially and legally permitted leaves a lot of men of partnerless. Even worse than the western “sexlessness” epidemic. Having a bunch of angry, lonely sexually frustrated men around is at best a societal drain and at worst a violent destabilizing force. The major solutions to this are to enforce monogamy so a greater proportion of men have access to women, or to send them away. Either send them off to war …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:48 AM
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So you say but there’s exceptions to everything. Many of the more educated men in those countries have more liberal attitudes towards women and gender roles than you’d think. I’m from a patriarchal nation as is my fiancé but neither of us act like the stereotype of our countries. Plus it’s easier to find what you’re looking for romantically if your pool includes the whole world vs just your small city or state/province. Also western women complain about patriarchal men when it doesn’t benefit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:25 AM
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Not all across the country and many states are trying to make it a criminal act to travel for an abortion. So you’re SOL if you’re not an original resident of the northeast USA or one of the few flyover and southern states that haven’t chipped away at abortion rights. Unless you have money to uproot your life and start over in another state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:21 AM
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Women do this when they sense the man is not asking in good faith. When your question is posed in an aggressive/sarcastic manner the assumption is that you’re being facetious. So then you get a facetious reply in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:20 AM
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They’re spread out. I can give you the breakdown of couples I know or follow. They’ve married men from the following countries: -Jamaica -Japan -China -Nigeria -South Africa -Mexico -Argentina -Haiti etc Etc. I know you have your gripes with American women but as much as you’d loathe to believe it they can/do marry non-American men. Overall though it seems like they’re internationally dating other westerners like Americans dating Europeans, Europeans dating Australias and Americans. https://www.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:19 AM
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Lol yes. Which countries have you lived in? There’s western women dating in the country I’m originally from. I also have seen it in countries I’ve traveled to and I follow some western women who travel and are married to men from all across the globe. South America, the Caribbean, Africa and Asia. They don’t have to be submissive to find a man. They just find a man that’s cool with their natural personality. It’s much easier to do that when you’ve expanded your pool to include the whole globe vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:15 AM
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Passport bros are just sex tourists. They’ve existed before the moniker. Same with their female counterparts. As I said though women are much more lowkey about it than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:13 AM
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It’s less for men. Marriage doesn’t shorten mens life span like it does for women. Also unless you’re trans you’re not going to be your wife’s surrogate and statistically women are the ones doing most domestic labor regardless of how much money they bring into the household. Also kids don’t hurt men’s careers or earnings in the way they do women’s. So the only overlapping risks for men are being used for sex and bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:09 AM
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Plenty that are have trouble finding it. I eventually did with my fiancé but it’s a demoralizing hot mess sorting through incompatible men trying to get that. It’s even worse if you’re a woman that was raised to be overly tolerant and understanding of others to your own expense. Women like that will stay in bad situations longer than they need to because they “feel bad” discarding men who aren’t up to par.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:45 AM
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Wrong. That would happen if female issues weren’t lucrative. Which is why some of women’s grievances were taken care of and others aren’t. Having women be able to work and vote doubles the workforce and voter base. That’s profitable and beneficial for politicians and corporations. Women having more reproductive control is no longer beneficial which is why you see the attitudes toward it in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:43 AM
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The average women gives as much care and concern to male issues, that the average man gives to female issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:40 AM
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Single moms are utterly common and celebrated as being able to "do it all" Single moms on average are in worse financial straits than childless women. Plus they do it all because they have to. Whether or not they chose to have and keep the child, the reality is there is no one there to help them provide and adequate life for their child but themselves. So they have to do everything on their own. Under different circumstances though most people aren’t going to choose to do something to make their…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:37 AM
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Isn’t a big part of being a monk “no romantic/sexual relationships”? So how would that be relevant here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:28 AM
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That’s largely dependent on whether or not the couple wants bio kids. When kids aren’t and will never be involved the man’s income is less important. For couples that want kids the man’s income is measured greatly if they live in a country with little to no parental leave. Since, quiet as it’s kept, most women don’t want to have to choose between financially security and a peaceful/relaxing pregnancy & post partum period. Women who have no choice will accept the raw deal and take it on the chin,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:26 AM
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-Two parents that are quality respectable people and a good healthy relationship with both of them. -Romantic and chivalrous -Engages in a respectable amount of familiarity when first meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:10 AM
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There’s a whole host of risks for women in regards to marriage. Heck even just dealing with a man socially/sexually in general. Marriage just amplifies it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:08 AM
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You risk wasting your life legally bound to a guy who just wanted free labor, consistent sex and a free surrogate for his kids. Maybe even someone to split or cover the bills depending on what country you live in. When in actuality he doesn’t care for or value you as a person. So it’s a risk that you as a woman wasted you time and dropped bombs on your life when you could’ve used the time and freedom you had before marriage to benefit your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:08 AM
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Are you in the camp of people here that say women should settle down in their prime if they want men to view marrying them as a good thing rather than a raw deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:06 AM
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Men aren’t as content being single as women for various reasons. So a man will stay in a relationship for years with a woman who he doesn’t particularly like just because it’s at least a warm human body there to keep him company and maybe provide sex. Most men will only end a relationship if the woman is actively and consistently making his life worse/more dangerous. If he’s actually passionate about the woman because she’s his dream women he’ll get the ball rolling as fast as she or his social …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:03 AM
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Two things can be true at once. Marriage is slavery for women, while divorce is that for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:55 AM
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In this scenario do reproductive burdens switch as well or does it stay the same? If reproductive burdens stayed the same I think things would be pretty similar for men dating wise. Women would still be picky about who they date and reproduce with because they’re still the ones carrying the baby. Socially I think things would be better though for women as the world would probably be matriarchal and look similar to matriarchal societies in nature where the female animals are bigger and stronger. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:55 AM
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It sounds like someone who knows time is valuable and it’s a waste of time to try and fundamentally change who someone is. If you’re super generous you can communicate it one good time. Do so in a manner that you know they’re receptive to. If they don’t follow through, dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:49 AM
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It depends on how you met them. If they were that way before you started dating it’s controlling. If they dressed modestly before you started dating and then switched up they’re boundaries. A similar example. Gaming. If you met a guy that spends 16 out of 24 hours gaming then asked him to change that’s controlling. You knew who he was when you met. If he didn’t game or only gamed 2-3 hours a day at first then switched. Asking him to stop or cut down would be a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:48 AM
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It’s not the best option for all western women. Which is why many have gone abroad to get married. More often than not though they leave the country with their spouse, while western men tend to bring their spouses back to their home country vs living in hers. At least for younger(under 40) people anyway. For older people it’s different. Older western women tend to bring the men back to their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:44 AM
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Women leave to find relationships as well. Idk your gender/sexuality but judging by your comment it doesn’t seem you follow feminine lifestyle bloggers/vloggers. Many of the ones that like to travel routinely end up marrying non-western men. Especially if they spend several months at a time in a different country. I can happily link some examples if you’d like to see
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:41 AM
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Women did beat men to the punch. They’re just more lowkey about it. A lot of women travel bloggers/vloggers end up marrying men from other countries and they either expatriate or vouch to bring him to her country. It depends on which decision is more financially sound for them as a couple. They just don’t make it their personality in the same way men do. Their focus as women tends to be culture shocks moving to a new country, or cultural/language differences between them and their husband. If th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:40 AM
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Yeah you can literally based on how they’re making their content and what they do/don’t do to get money & more fame. It makes it clear who wants money, fame, brand deals and more followers and who just wants validation from their pre-existing audience. It goes viral because a new face pops up to the same old cute trend. They get a small following from it that consistently watches their videos but it’s not enough to replicate the views of their viral video. It’s like those people you see who have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:59 AM
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You can tell based on the quality and originality of their content. If they wanted it for money and brand deals they’d put their cash app or P.O. Box and step up their content game to leverage their fame across platforms and get access to brand deals and money. The ones who don’t and make the same low quality video over and over again just want validation. They don’t care about the money or growing their audience much. They’re content to just have the same small following hyping them up, complim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:46 PM
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Yes. Unfortunately over half my male family members are like that. Outside of that I’ve met other men who were like that and open about it and others who weren’t but I suspected they were or something adjacent because they fit the bill to a T despite not explicitly claiming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:44 PM
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Nah. The sidebar isn’t reflective of trp in the wild. You learn the most by observing red pill men on and offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:56 PM
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Nope my point still stands. My point is that they continually do it for validation. You were trying to claim they do it for fame and profit. If you’re not diversifying your content enough to build your audience beyond the same 10k people you’re not going to get brand deals and make a living off your content. That’s ok though. Some of these daddy content creators don’t care to leverage their platforms financially. They just like the praise and accolades of being told they’re super dads for basic …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:53 PM
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Not necessarily. A viral or video or two can get you a decent following if they liked what you post or it may just get you views on that one video but not translate into a big enough and active enough following for you to leverage anything. Furthermore are you able to consistently go viral and grow your platform enough to leverage it into brand deals, sponsorships, and success on other platforms? Some can some can not. From what I’ve noticed after checking the profiles after seeing the viral vid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 09:32 PM
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Nope. I don’t seek them out. They go viral and I just check their pages. I’ve noticed a pattern men that have successful pages across platforms put in more effort holistically than men who don’t. Despite both groups making daddy-kid content. So my view is as unbiased as it can get for one person. Like really it’s not hard to see why a dad who just films low quality videos of the same kind content can’t break past the platform their main following is on. While another dad that’s more involved, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:14 AM
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You can do that. But what about your friends and family? Surely they will be talking with me about your EXes sometimes. Nah. My friends know to stay on code and my parents never got to know anyone I’ve dated. One man came to our house to pick me up for a date and from then I learned not to introduce or tell then about anyone I’m dating until it’s time for marriage. So the only person they’ve gotten to know is my fiancé. As for other women I’ve given this advice to. They know to prep family and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:11 AM
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Which for some people is hard. Especially if they grew up sheltered, they’re awkward&shy, or they’re not neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:05 AM
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It’s very true. The men who get weeded out are those who don’t enjoy the woman’s company outside of sex. Which is the goal. Set boundaries so you find a partner that actually likes you and is compassionate towards you. Not one that will pump and dump you or one that would date you just so they can get consistent sex and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:03 AM
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Nah, even when I’m not logged into have an algorithm or I use a different device/account it’s more of the same. Well. You can say it’s the bare minimum if you want. At the end of the day though you can compare the content and see that(at least for the cameras) the more successful social media dads put in more effort to their content that the less successful ones. From the video quality, to the editing to what they choose to do with their kids. You can call that the bare minimum if you’d like but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:41 AM
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I do it as I see them. They’re not unsuccessful on tik tok. They just don’t translate well to other platforms. The successful ones I’ve seen are doing more than the bare minimum in terms of parenting and video editing. So they don’t really fit the same niche as the men discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:59 AM
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Ohhhh so now a conversation is had lol. Good looking men have advantages but it means nothing if they get in their own way. Which can happen if you’re socially inept and awkward. You can block your own leg up by being weird and turning a woman off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:32 AM
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By checking their pages and from their own mouths. They’ll say whether or not they’re on other platforms and you can go look for yourself and see how they perform on other platforms if they expanded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:31 AM
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I can’t answer the question exactly as I’ve never lied to any man about my ex boyfriends. I’ve just lied about whether or not I’ve had bad dates and I’ve never been caught out for that. For my friends I’ve told to lie though, none of them have gotten caught because they follow the rules. 1) One excuse per ex 2)Remember what you said for each ex 3) have enough detail and variability about the fake circumstances of the breakup for it to be believable. They follow the rules and as a result haven’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:30 AM
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Nope. I’m calling into question the fact that you claim you don’t make conversation. You allegedly just tell her to show up and hop on your d*ck and she does with no lead up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:24 AM
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If they could’ve they would’ve.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:24 AM
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I would and always have because a man who waits and is committed will put more effort into making sure you’re comfortable and enjoying yourself than a random dude you barely know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:17 AM
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So you just tell a woman to come over and sit on your dick with not prior conversation, no drinks, no foreplay nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:15 AM
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You don’t use the same ones over and over again. That would be silly. You have a specific one for each ex. All the excuses should vary from each other. So ex 1: “he moved to Germany for work, I didn’t want to leave my friends and family to go to a country I have no ties in, and neither of us wanted long distance so we called it quits” Ex 2. “He didn’t want kids and I did and neither of us were willing to change our mind about that so we knew it wouldn’t work long term” You use one excuse per ex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:04 AM
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Yup 100%. That or they’re going to assume you’re “settling” for them and holding them to a higher standard because you’re not as attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:45 AM
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They want views for the validation and praise. There’s no money in it if they can’t leverage their tik tok fame to other better paid platforms
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:42 AM
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I’ve gotten some of my friends to start doing this among other things and it’s worked out great so far. 3 are now having vastly better dating experiences, one is in the best relationship she’s had to date and the other seems to be headed that route as well with the guy she’s exclusively seeing. So some women do it. It just depends on how they choose to cope with the truth about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:41 AM
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When they ask that just tell them ultimately things didn’t work out because you wanted different things out of life. Then just make up and excuse like you wanted kids and they didn’t. They wanted to leave the country and you didn’t and neither of you wanted long distance. Religious conversion etc. I also tell women not to have sex with men without some commitment and investment. Unless they’re cool with things only being casual. If not, wait and observe to sus out his intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:38 AM
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I’ve never needed to but I advocate for other women to depending on what it is. Men lie to women all the time and they’ll fake entire personalities if it gets them what they want. So the way I see it. No harm no foul. I always tell women no matter what happened in your past relationships every guy treated you amazing and spoiled you rotten. Men fall to the expectations of the worst man you dated so unless he’s proven to be empathetic and can understand personal growth and development then you te…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:42 AM
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The ones I linked don’t. They make TikTok’s to share in a community of parents. Their TikTok fame doesn’t translate enough anywhere else to really make them money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:38 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:37 AM
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Yeah that’s pretty common as the way each generation is socialized is generally very different. Sometimes there’s exceptions and a large age gap can work. Otherwise that generation gap will be one hell of a hurdle to clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:36 AM
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It’s not absolute but two people of or around the same age are probably in the same stage in their life. Also generation gaps are very real. Depending on how large the age gap is you might have been influenced in radically different ways due to the way you were influenced by cultural norms of the time. In cases like that the relationship may be hard to maintain because you’re in different life stages and you don’t see eye to eye on things
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:52 PM
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They can but a lot of men don’t have female friends to begin with. Most have male friends though so you can work on deepening the bonds you already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:59 PM
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It's going through and we seen the impact of it already. It's exactly what Obama himself pushed for. Yet you can literally fact check and see that it hasn’t gone through yet, and that there’s a chance it will not depending on public reaction. It could go through or it could be pulled. Look at you lying just like you lying about me not liking people having opposing views. I never said anything about opposing views😏. I said you don’t like being back chatting you which “stupid replies and gotchas” …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:57 PM
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You can guess at it based on how people conduct themselves online and the things they believe to be true. It’s not 100% but some people give away that they’re immature, regressed or were heavily sheltered growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:44 PM
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You don’t understand because you’re divorcing those statements from context. If your struggles are related to women, you don’t understand them, you have a hard time talking to them etc talking to women and being friends with women makes sense because you can observe women and practice talking to them in a lower stakes situation. Something like this though, men need to step up for each other and hype their boys up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:43 PM
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You’d think but everyone has different metabolisms. I know for me it was a struggle to get up to a size 2. Other women I’ve met had similar struggles, albeit worse because they were trying to get up to a 6-8. So they’d drink apetamin, binge very unhealthy food that did make them gain weight but then had other adverse health effects, others started taking those chicken supplements farmers used to make chickens gain weight fast, then those who could afford and it and were ok with the risks got bbl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:39 PM
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Women do talk about these things. They’ll also just try and fix it if they’re that insecure. Either with surgery, the gym, shape-wear or dressing in a way that doesn’t bring attention to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:49 PM
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As someone who’s gone on dates with a couple a lot of them are man children. Often because their parents did something that stunted their development, however it’s obvious to see many of them are regressed and that it’s the cause of them being sexually unsuccessful among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:48 PM
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Then go to your male friends and foster that environment. Women do it for each other when they’re feeling insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:47 PM
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Not necessarily. Binge eating disorder is also an issue and can be a sign of insecurity as well. Plus it varies based on demographic. Men and women in my demographic tend to prefer bigger more shapely women so instead of women throwing up their guts. You’ll see women force feeding themselves to gain weight or consuming dangerous things so they can have a fat a$$ and big boobs because they’re insecure about being skinny and flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:46 PM
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Its going into effect and it will very much hurt men just like it did under Obama. We’ll see whether or not it actually goes through and what the impacts will be. And you can say I am catastrophizing all you want, but not once have you even attempted to refute or even remotely prove I may just be wrong here. I did more than once. You choosing not to read it is on you. Women are ever so earning more college degrees than men are. Women are making more than men. Women are ever so getting their way …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:34 PM
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And socially more of a female centric society. Biden just made it so men lose their legal rights in college going back to Obama era standards for colleges when one is accused of rape. After all the future is female. Nope, just fact checked this and according to the most recent news sources his title IX proposal hasn’t gone into effect and there’s a chance that it won’t. Plus it’s not sex specific on who it impacts. So this is once again more catastrophizing. It reflects on nothing. Yes there was…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:13 AM
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Maybe, but look at the direction we are heading. Politically it’s a more conservative one. Socially is a mixed bag depending on where you live. Something you can kind of control unless you’re dead broke. So I don’t get your concerns? Since when a legal decision an opinion? Yes it was more a religious/political one, but still. It reflects the opinions of all those who protested in favor of it. Shows the political climate as well. I don't like people making stupid replies back and trying to go for…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:34 AM
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I didn’t get anything done but my mom got a mommy makeover a couple years after she divorced my dad and then she ended up remarried to a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:22 AM
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To be honest I think some men say things to be antagonistic and not because they actually believe it. Let someone treat their mother or sister like that and they’d be irate. Random women they don’t know though they’re cool with it because they’re a more depersonalized outlet for that man’s anger and sexual frustration at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:00 AM
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Not yet, but given how society is going we are heading that way. Sounds like catastrophizing As women so often say no uterus no opinion. Yes I know that is referring to abortion. And Roe v.Wade got over turned overwhelmingly by people w/no uteruses But its expanded to being used on men having any sort of opinion of or on women. All while women get free reign on having opinions on men. Ya equality. So as I thought. You don’t like people talking back to you when you say something as none of what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:55 AM
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Are you arrested and imprisoned when you share your opinion about women? If not then you’re in the same boat as women. You can say whatever you want within the confines of the law, you just don’t like the social consequences. Oh well, if you say something people have the right to say something back. In a country with freedom of speech that’s inescapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:14 PM
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Have you read up on the tik tok creator fund lol. The views don’t make them much money. You have to get to a certain level where sponsorships start coming in and most of the videos I linked aren’t there yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 02:13 PM
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Check the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:53 AM
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So I take it you didn’t click any of the links as the videos are all of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:05 PM
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Yameteeee!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:04 PM
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🙀😾👺🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:21 PM
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Another one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:20 PM
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Another one 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:08 PM
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Lol, another one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:03 PM
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For the guys on Tiktok with the exception of one they’ll like the videos and keep making more because they enjoy it and think it’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:58 PM
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Another one😴
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:57 PM
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Think that’s ok
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:53 PM
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Nah it’s the men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:17 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsBfFj/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsSRUn/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsaL9d/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsmv9m/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsudX6/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsPDTN/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsDTv2/?k=1 Check the comments on some of those https://images.app.goo.gl/NoGUk1oBrnUek22m8
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:16 PM
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You can say something is insulting simply because it’s condescending. It assumes men are inept and them doing simple things is worthy of amazement. If you think that’s a good image for men that’s your business though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:32 PM
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For what’s it’s worth. The women praising them tend to be older women who came from a different time when all a man had to do was bring home a paycheck and not beat her ass to be considered a good partner. So for them seeing men that change diapers, brush their kids hair etc is mind-blowing. Young women are not the ones praising them, they’re the ones saying the bar is in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:31 PM
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It’s not about their personal taste. It’s reactions to people praising men for things they just expect of women as a baseline. Like fathers who hang out with their kids(“babysitting them”) as if they’re not a parent too who should be active in their child’s lives, or praising men who assist in the homes chores without being asked, men who remember details about their kids like names of teachers, friends, ambitions, favorite subject in school etc. More often than not the women saying it aren’t da…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:30 PM
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Aww such a cute attempt at begging. A bit outdated but funny. Do another one! Here’s some other emoji suggestions to get you started: 😴😵‍💫🫤🤧😧🤐🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:26 PM
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It’s less common now that women can have jobs and bank accounts. The more financially dependent women are on men. The lower down the ladder physical attraction goes and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:03 PM
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The ones who operate that way do admit it and then men get mad and call them shallow and/or delusional. Those are the nicer comments they’ll get as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:01 PM
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I’ve never had a hookup but husband/boyfriend material is someone I enjoy spending time with, has aligning goals/morals/ethics and who I can be vulnerable with. For most women a hookup is just lust based and a husband/boyfriend material is someone they lust after and enjoy outside of the bedroom as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:00 PM
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Sure the women that lead and approach are in the minority, otherwise people would complain that women approach all the time..... which sounds ridiculous. They’re really not and even if they were it’d be comparable to women who are exclusive bottoms in my hypothetical so it’s really no difference. If you’d put in the work to find and attract one type in an alternative reality the same could be done in current reality. Men would never complain about those women unless they are ugly because most li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:57 PM
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Nah it’s a true to life example. Sorry it’s beyond your comprehension. Everyone else comprehended enough to answer directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:48 PM
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Women who take the lead still want to feel feminine and want the man to approach. The only thing I said is a bane is having to approach. Plenty of them don’t. There’s women that take the lead and approach who are also masculine. It’d take about the same amount of work to figure out how to attract those women as it would to figure out how to attract bottoms in a hypothetical universe. If you still don't understand why that is a benefit.... Here is an example. Being a man is like being a door to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:29 PM
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Did you just ignore everything I wrote previously? It's not trading work for work, if they are approaching me and I already know what the ones who want to top want. The work is done, All I have to do is use the knowledge I acquired. It's easier to have 1000 women approach me and sort who is a bottom, then finding 1000 women and asking if they are a bottom. No matter how you try to spin it or say it that second option is easier. I read everything but let me expand more on my thoughts so it makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:08 PM
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Also people can hide information from background checks making them useless. Which is why I don’t believe in doing any one thing in isolation. The trifecta seems to produce the best results(questioning them, doing a background check and getting character references) sometimes a thing or two you missed using one method can be caught out using another. That's also way too much, think about this for a second. If I'm cold approaching people I'm not going to do a background check on them without caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:12 AM
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Expressing love is an action. I’m not building the belief. I’m describing an intentional action per your request. You could pay and escort to have sex with you to. Whether or not it’s “the same” depends entirely on the parameters you and the escort set.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:02 AM
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Yes as long as it comes with equivalent operations and procedures as medical abortions I’m all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:00 PM
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Vetting is just asking questions, I don't consider that work. You only need to come up with one good set of questions to filter out people right away. At worst I would have to put in 1 day's worth of work figuring out good vetting questions... but that's the easy part. I had to do that while dating women, so it's a non-issue since both genders have to do it. I think this is where the difference in our opinions lie. Or maybe you’ve just been more lucky to only encounter honest people. Background …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:57 PM
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Verbal expressions of love, cuddling and caressing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:33 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:32 AM
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Again, the why is irrelevant to me. It is what it is. I have no dog in the fight and have no interest in changing things good or bad. I’m simply pointing out why men are viewed as valuing sex so much. If everything else is abundant that invalidates the claims here anyway that men are lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:32 AM
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Exactly and this seems to be growing more and more true in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:30 AM
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Most people can not relate to an experience that’s unfathomable to them. Makes sense men are better apt to understand men. Just be the change you want to see and encourage more emotional intimacy among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:30 AM
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So sex once again. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:09 PM
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So then they can make posts strategizing and figuring out how to get what they want relationship wise just as they do with sex. The only reason they don’t is because they don’t value it as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:09 PM
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The way I’ve isolated sex from the rest of intimacy is not misleading. Sex is not an Inherently intimate act and my isolation identifies the fact that there are different types of intimacy to further illustrate the point that men don’t value it as much if sex is not somehow involved in the equation. The rest of it is just hamstering and deflection because you can’t say the main point is a 100% lie. Men value sex. They put out to the world that they value sex. They put out to the world that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:07 PM
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If your standard is “ideals” then it’s extremely difficult for most men to get both and it’s equally difficult to get both long term. So it still doesn’t explain why they give more energy to one than the other. So all of this just seems like post hoc rationalization. Tbh though I don’t really care about the “why” my main and only point is that men show and sometimes straight up say they value sex the most when it comes to inter-gender dynamics. So, with that said it shouldn’t surprise anyone tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:04 PM
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Based on your anecdote it still doesn’t seem she knows what it is to be a man because it seems masturbation satisfied her whereas if you pose that as a solution to sexless/sexually frustrated men they take it as a slap in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:01 PM
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Ok fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:59 PM
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Men have been like this though so blaming it on modern society doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:59 PM
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Your point doesn’t contradict mine as walking away from relationships they don’t want would solve the issue you’ve posed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:57 PM
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So it’s not about sex it’s just about sex? The how and why are a part of sex discussions. It’s more like a rich guy being annoyed that a poor guy says he doesn’t care about money, yet the poor guy talks about money so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:03 AM
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Your analogy would make sense if men could lock down a quality life partner easier than they could get sex but according to the men that struggle both are hard to get and a woman that would make a quality partner(not just a mediocre one that they keep around to avoid the casual dating circus) is even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:02 AM
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So you agree with my point then? I thought you were trying to counter or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:59 AM
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You mean men are reluctant to talk to women about emotional intimacy, specifically about how women will weaponize men's emotions against them? I wonder if the two are related? They make these same claims about women when it comes to discussing sex. Yet that doesn’t stop them because they really value sex and it’s a priority so they will discuss it no matter how women react. In any case, the conclusion that men need to not talk about sex to convince you that they actually want relationships is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:58 AM
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Lack of sexual experience could be hidden, but my point is if a guy has none and gets a single option to get it. He’s gonna get it. Of course because that’s his priority and true desire. That one could have taken 7-9 years to get some attention, no guy is gonna go through that again. Only if he’s uncomfortable with being single and celibate. Some men prioritize peace over that and won’t tolerate a women they can’t stand/are disgusted by.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:52 AM
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If that was true there’d be much more variety on these discussions than there is. Sex is the dominant topic and everything else is a distant second.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:51 AM
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Most women tend to go after the top 20% of guys though in the hopes that they get to be the main girl. They can go after what they want. If it’s not happening it’s not happening. Anyone can desire anything they want but reality will check you. Instead, they end up being the side-girl. Most don’t even end up being the side girl. They don’t get their attention reciprocated at all. All the while the average man has to "settle" for the average woman, who's probably got an n-count higher than the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:48 AM
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“watch what they do, not what they say” Again, lack of sexual experience is fairly easy to hide unless you’re the extremely anxious type. I wonder why. Multiple reasons some good some bad. Being child free is more socially acceptable, sex Ed and contraceptives are better quality and more widely available. People are also too broke and/or busy to have kids. lmao, i got bad news for you. It’s not bad news for me. Don’t get me wrong it would take them a while if they’re not attractive but if there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:41 AM
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They don’t. That’s why you see so many without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:38 AM
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Why is that better? A shit relationship provides no positives and typically several negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:38 AM
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What would be healthy for men would be to realize that the same, being single is better than a bad or so-so relationship, applies to them too. Not in a MGTOW chin in the air flaunting off sort of way, but in a more accepting manner that leaves the door open should the right woman walk through. This I completely agree with but I also understand men don’t want to hear that coming from a woman. They start throwing accusations of female solipsism. As well as claiming that it’s disregarding mens feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:37 AM
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Either way it’s the majority of men that are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:36 AM
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Fact of the matter is that women who offer emotional support without immediately losing attraction and respect for you are outliers. It’s also alleged here that women that offer sex in an equal distribution are outliers. Yet men here have no qualms about discussing that. So why would they not discuss how women offer emotional support at equal rates if they truly care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:35 AM
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It doesn’t matter if it’s the woman’s standards or not as the talk about sex and completely indicative of what men prioritize. They complain about womens behavior all the time in regards to sex and what they’d like to see instead. If what you said held any water why aren’t the bulk of the posts about how women should evaluate men in non-sexual ways instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:34 AM
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I know they really like sex. What I don’t get is why there is confusion about that being the perception of men. If you put so much effort into getting sex, constantly talk about sex, complain about sexlessness and are the primary consumers of sex as a commodity people are going to come to the conclusion that sex is important to men as a demographic and it’s a priority for them over other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:32 AM
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Yet they don’t talk about both in equal measure. Mens actions tell the truth of what they prioritize and it’s sex. That’s their business. I just find it funny that that’s the case then there’s confusion on why others have the perception that men prioritize sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:31 AM
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That still doesn’t negate anything I’m saying. When men here have a problem with what women do and how they do it they’re quick to complain. So if they genuinely and truly cared about emotional intimacy as much as they do sex. Then they’d be making post after post critiquing women for the unequal distribution of emotional intimacy, how they weaponize emotions intimacy etc. They barely talk about it at all. Where with sex they talk about it frequently and comprehensively. They do that because tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:30 AM
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So then why get mad when other people say that’s what you want? I’d you want sex you want sex. That’s your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:28 AM
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Exactly, and who is a man going to cheat on you with if he's also at the bottom of the looks spectrum. Women he sends dick pics too and tries to pick up. That’s still cheating. Doesn't matter if the intentions are loyal if it doesn't have the chance to do anything in the first place. It does because it means he’s actively attempting to cheat and he’s actively publicly embarrassing you. There are zero benefits of being with a man like that. You’re better off being single than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:20 AM
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They don’t offer sex to the ppd men either. That’s why they complain about it. My point is, the men here complain the most about what they care about most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:18 AM
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Thank goodness they don’t. The world would be even more of a hot mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:18 AM
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They do. People put energy into what they care about. Mens behavior shows that(when comes to dating) sex is their top priority by a wide margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:17 AM
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Most women do. They just go unnoticed because they don’t come out and say that unless someone asks and they’re not as entertaining as delusional women so their videos about how they’re happily single and how they had a good day at yoga don’t go viral like videos about women saying how they deserve xyz. The latter is more fun for people to hate watch and engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:16 AM
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Well, duh. There's only so many men making that kind of money! But this doesn't disprove my point that they tend to date up. It does. You can’t date up if that option is not available to you. It’s like saying all men are pro-athletes because that’s their desire. At the end of the day not everyone is getting drafted. There's a difference between personal experiences and statistical realities. If we're playing that game, I have seen way more women cheating on their men than the inverse. Good for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:12 AM
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Guys do have the option of just leaving but then it makes it worse if they haven't been in a relationship or had sex. If a guy was a loser and had to jump through hoops to have sex, majority of the time he's gonna do it. Who is going to know that unless you tell them? Pay off is being a single mother. Only if you’re anti abortion and don’t use bc. Fertility rates are dropping though. Most guys don't have this luxury of "just find another woman" They do. They also just have a scarcity mindset. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:25 PM
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/young-adults-especially-men-having-sex-less-frequently 1/3 are not having sex but the other 2/3 are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:23 PM
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If it was that easy they would’ve gotten it. If they don’t they just stay alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:21 PM
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They’re not. The fact that they want to cheat at all disqualifies them from being labeled as loyal. Take it like this. Let’s say your gf wanted to cheat on you and she sent message and pics to other men. However they all reject her so she hasn’t actually slept with someone else yet. Is she loyal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:20 PM
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Those same women don’t also turn around and pretend not to really care about the issue they were complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:19 PM
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Just look at the posts here. Men claim women are stingy with both sex and affection(the non-sexual kind) yet the bulk of the posts they make are complaining about sex. Which makes no sense. If you want both things at an equal rate and you’re getting neither why talk and complain about one more than the other? That shows they’re not valued the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:27 PM
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70% of men get sex so someone has to be dating and sleeping with those men outside of the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:23 PM
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Sex is a priority for the majority, hence why guys don't want to be the guy that has to jump through hoops when other guys didn't. Women are quick to have sex with guys they find attractive, if they don't have sex with you quick...you are being settled with. You act as if the only options are to take the sex or jump through hoops. Leaving is also and option. I’m glad we agree though. Sex is the primary focus of the majority of men and women are correctly identifying that. Yet women still go afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:18 PM
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So then unattractive and average men are not more loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:14 PM
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Would he though? Some would lie to get sex and then leave. Personally i don't think guys with lower sexual partners could even be with a more promiscuouswoman because you will most likely are being settled for. Yes, otherwise his actions are showing sex is the priority for him. Now I’m not saying anything is wrong with either. As red pill says though, “watch what they do, not what they say” Going after men that would be outside of their league, these guys don't care for a LTR with them because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:04 PM
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So let me get this straight. Women don’t offer sex on an equal distribution so the solution is to write think piece after think piece about it. Women allegedly also don’t offer emotional intimacy and the like on an equal distribution either so the solution is to ignore it. Yet this totally says nothing about what men value. The whole reason men write and complain so much about sex is because women allegedly aren’t offering it to a critical mass of men. So logic should follow that men would write…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:00 PM
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If your standard is warm and willing then options don’t affect anything but your ability to act on your desires. It doesn’t impact the presence or absence of those desires. Also yo you’re arguing that more options changes a guys ceiling which isn’t necessarily true. It just changes his floor. A man having less options doesn’t stop him from lusting after women significantly more attractive than himself. He’ll still lust after and try to get with those women. He just may not be successful at it. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:56 PM
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I do it if I asked straight up and it seems like they were lying. So I test to see if my suspicion was right or not. Telling a man you wouldn’t date him if he was the last person on earth, under any circumstances even if your life was at stake if you refused him doesn’t always work. Tried something similar once and he kept making fake social media accounts as different women to try to “convince me” to date him and others to troll my boyfriend at the time. So I learned from that and other experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:54 PM
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You want to control outcomes of people’s choices, so you setting up traps instead of being observant. Nah. I want them out of my life. Men like that can get dangerous so if I see something I don’t want around me, I’m separating myself. They can do whatever they want, I just don’t have to be a part of it. including ruining their own friendships with self-sabotaging games. The only ones who get dropped are those who were not well intended. So nothing was “ruined” Stop. Get help. Help with what? Sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:51 PM
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Exactly what I said. You want CONTROL. That’s not control. If I wanted to control them I’d keep them around and dictate their feelings. I just identify their feelings and stop associating with them. It’s unhealthy, it’s toxic. Use all the justifications you want but it’s a fucked up mindset. Works for me and has actively improved my life. You said you flirt with male friends to make sure they don’t show or have any interest. Do you know how retarded that is? It’s not. Those who were just waiting…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:40 PM
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This happens after they had all the hook ups though. Why would a guy that's not getting attention be ok with a women that is making him jump through hoops but none of the last guys did? If he truly wants love and not just sex he’d move on from the situation entirely. I see women all the time talking about ONS how good it was etc and trying to get a LTR but failing. They then go back and low their standards but don't want that LTR to be about sex? aka settling. Expand?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:38 PM
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Not having options doesn’t mean you’re more loyal. Loyalty is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:07 PM
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Yes and if they do, time to go our separate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:58 PM
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All the people I call friends can meet that standard of friendship so that’s no help for me. I’ve explicitly asked about intentions and desires as well and not everyone is honest. So why are further games needed? Because I don’t know what the intentions behind their behavior is. Are they just reciprocating my treatment because they want to be friends or because they want something more secretly and are biding their time? You want to police their thoughts and innermost emotions that they might ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:58 PM
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Maybe that’s true for men in larger society however men here don’t do themselves any favors with how they analyze the distribution and quality of sex. They’re not making post after post about how quickly women offer emotional support and non-sexual intimacy. How often women show they cherish men and the ways the show it. It’s post after post about male sexlessness, how womens standards for sex are too high, how women sleep with some men quicker than others, how women give better sex in hookups t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:54 PM
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If they’re extremely ugly(at the bottom of the looks spectrum) there’s nowhere to go but across and up as they’re the at end. Either way. A man is a man is a man. Either he’s faithful or he’s not. His face will tell you nothing of which one he is. If he’s ugly the only difference between him and “Chad” is that when he(ugly guy) goes out to try and cheat he gets rebuffed. While “Chad” would find someone. Either way their intentions are the same and they’re not loyal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:45 PM
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No worries it’s the internet and yes I know how they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:43 PM
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They don’t all think they deserve a winner. They’re just more comfortable with having nothing at all if they don’t get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:29 PM
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I’d say 30% but most of them are not beautiful women. The trade off to this though is if a woman is going to support you permanently a lot more will be required of you physically and sexually than if it was a 50/50 deal or the man supporting her. Women(not all) tend to operate with a trade off system. So the more they expect of you financially the more willing they are to forego looks requirements. The less they require of you financially the more stringent they are about looks requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:22 PM
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This is not how you logic. It is. If you complain about income inequality, does that also mean you are automatically demanding people just “give you money” ? Depends on how you’re complaining, if you lay blame and at who. If it’s the failings of the democratic government. Then it’s a different case. If you’re blaming fellow constituents then it falls into entitlement category. It generally means that “something is wrong with the system and many people are falling through the cracks and being lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:19 PM
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Fairy nuff but women are catching up to men in terms of infidelity (13% vs men's 20% but it is self reported). Their opportunities for cheating increased when they entered the workplace en masse. Good for them. When the men here said women were cheating and lying about their past the men were told to stop being insecure and not to get married if it was such a big deal. Maybe if these women have such high levels of fear and insecurity, they should steer clear of relationships altogether? Or they …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:13 PM
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Uhhh no they don't. It is a statistical fact that women tend to date up. There's a literal word for it: Hypergamy. Feel free to look it up! Uhh yeah they do. Women may want to date hypergamously but not all will be successful at it. Even in terms of online dating, you see women dating up all the time. I've never seen an average-looking girl date an average or below-average looking guy in my entire life. I’ve seen it. Especially where I grew up. Plenty of looks matched couples or even couples whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:12 PM
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All the people I call friends can meet that standard of friendship so that’s no help for me. I’ve explicitly asked about intentions and desires as well and not everyone is honest. Flirting and dropping those who flirt back has yielded the best results because guys that said they just wanted to hang but really wanted more expose themselves that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:07 PM
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Nah. If they don’t have the same intentions you do it’s best to sus it out immediately. It’s better than them hanging around for months or years thinking they have a chance and then getting hurt when they find out after all that time they still don’t. I made the suggestion because in my experience most men don’t answer honestly when you ask them what their intentions are. Their actions will be more honest than their words so you use that to figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:06 PM
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Other developed nations have more perks that make the trade off better than the US though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:03 PM
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Exactly my point. If you’re a woman ugly or not dating an unattractive or average man won’t be your saving grace. His looks will tell you nothing of whether he’ll cheat or not. You have to vet him and see if he’s sexually disciplined and what his morals are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:02 PM
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It’s pretty easy to get rid of the ones who aren’t though. If you flirt with them as a test it will show you who is your friend because they actually want a friendship from you, who has ulterior motives and who wants a friendship but would take more if you offered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:51 AM
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She wouldn’t. Plenty of women date men who are at their looks level and get cheated on and pumped and dumped. They use the same reasoning you did thinking if a man isn’t the apex of male beauty he’ll be more sexually disciplined and loyal. I know ppd men love to assert that most men are loyal and loving and it’s just the big mean women not giving them a chance to show it but in reality any man can pump and dump or cheat. It’s just a matter of how many opportunities he has to do so. Attractive me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:48 AM
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Nah, just men in general. Average and unattractive men cheat and pump and dump too. They just do it at lower rates due to lack of opportunities. When those opportunities present themselves though you see looks play no part in how men act. A man is man. His moral character dictates how he conducts himself not his face.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:46 AM
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Or you can be sincere and understand that your attempt at playing semantics didn’t work and per the definitions of femicide and mass murder the deaths of those women fit the one for femicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:44 AM
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I learned about it from observing men and having brothers. Like I’d see them compliment something about a woman one second and then insult something about(intentionally or unintentionally) her after a pause. I’d be sat thinking “didn’t you notice that when you first looked at her??” Then after a while I realized they probably genuinely didn’t notice at first because they were fixating on something about her that they found attractive. I didn’t know there was research on it but I’ll certainly loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:57 AM
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Femicide: “the killing of a woman or girl, in particular by a man and on account of her gender.” Mass murder: “the murder of a large number of people.” Based on these definitions here your exclusionary tactic doesn’t hold water. The murders tracked by that page do count as femicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:54 AM
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That’s anorexic thin and the women I’m talking about don’t have pretty faces either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:52 AM
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Nope. It's not comparable, and quite frankly I'm not sure why you keep trying to bring men/everyone into it when women are the primary victims of human rights atrocities in eastern countries, not men. It is comparable because your premise is that western problems are invalid/minuscule compared to problems in other countries as westerners are more privileged due to their countries being safer and more stable. You can’t single this out to one demographic as this applies to everyone. Western mens s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:27 AM
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So then the same logic applies to everyone in the west. They have it great and there’s no need to complain about or change anything as people in worse off countries would be fine living in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:13 AM
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Right, and we don't call that feeling entitled to food because that's not how that works. If you’re requesting the food from a group that are not obligated to give it to you it is called entitlement. Likewise a man can be starving for affection and intimacy, we don't say he's feeling entitled to a woman's body because that's not at all what's happening and it's absurd to suggest it is. If he goes on to say masturbation and/or a sex worker are insufficient then it is entitlement. Doesn't seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:12 AM
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So then what’s the point of comparing the problems of those in privileged groups to those in worse off conditions if it’s not a means of invalidating the problems of the former?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:03 AM
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Ok fair enough at least you’re consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:01 AM
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It does. Death by suicide isn’t the same as death by illness, injury or murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:00 AM
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Duh that’s the topic. Unless men are the ones “hen pecking”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:00 AM
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Main point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:59 PM
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She wouldn’t. If she hits them up she may get pumped and dumped, but men aren’t going to be chasing her down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:59 PM
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https://m.facebook.com/blackfemicideUS It was over 1000 that they counted last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:58 PM
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I agree. But claiming that the U.S. has "rampant" misogyny that's impacting the lives of everyday women compared to women anywhere else is a huge fallacy. So if they compare it to the lives of women in countries than fare better what is the situation then? The point of using inflammatory language is so that problems will be address and progress could be made. Do you think the first two waves of feminism, the civil rights movements, workers rights movements would have made progress in the past ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:29 PM
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So then everyone is the wests complaints should be dismissed and things should stay socially and legally stagnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:23 PM
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We definitely have fundamentally different beliefs. All the “perks” of sex outside of sexual release can be gotten outside of sex. Sexual release, closeness, emotional physical intimacy etc. So I don’t see the big deal. It’s like an icing on a cake it can heighten the pleasure but if the cake itself is good it’s enjoyable either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:04 PM
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So then they’re not safe socially?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:49 PM
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Do you think being a poor woman in any of those places is comparitively better? Being poor sucks everywhere, but it sucks a whole lot harder in those places than in the western world. It depends on what kind of poor you are. As someone who came from what the former US president would deem a “shithole” country. I’d rather be poor there than in the US than in regards to rural poverty because the US had too many regulations on what someone can and can’t do. In terms of building your own housing on …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:49 PM
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So western men are the most privileged people? Since men in other countries have it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:45 PM
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There’s femicide in the US as well. Like another commenter said though PPD tends to only focus on one demographic of women. The apex fallacy they accuse women of they do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:45 PM
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What’s confusing? If your focus is sex and not just sexual release you will notice. If your focus is sexual release then you won’t notice if you masturbate. As much meaning day to day you’re not going to be thinking about it because you can masturbate. However if someone else points it out, or you want to start dating you’ll think about it. Not due to sexual frustration though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:32 PM
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So with that in mind, consider a man looking for intimacy. A prostitute might get him off, but ultimately it's going to be a hollow experience - a one shot deal, which he had to pay for, with somebody who's going to forget he exists the moment the next paying client comes through. I get that, however this is still insinuating that another person is necessary for you to fulfill this need/desire. Which is where accusations of entitlement sometimes come in. It’s like this. We need to eat, however n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:20 PM
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Even if you’re not asexual you wouldn’t notice as long as you can still masturbate. If you’re still orgasm you’re not going to notice the sexlessness as much unless you’re a person who really prioritizes and focuses on sex. It’s like this you’ll notice if you don’t eat(no sexual release) however if you’re still eating but you just haven’t eaten a specific kind of food in a while you wouldn’t notice(sexual release via masturbation instead of sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:16 PM
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I know that’s why I made it. Stay strapped, stay vigilant and stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:14 PM
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Of course. Which 1/3 they’ll make an exception for depends on the man. My only point though is your dating experience is going to differ radically as a woman if you 0/3 vs 1/3 vs 3/3.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:13 PM
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Women don’t need to contribute for men to have sexual release. They can do that without women. The sex bots are here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:25 PM
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Not really. It’s because people conflate sex with sexual release. You can have your sexual “needs” met without sex itself. It’s like getting your daily nutritional values met with normal home cooked meals vs top of the line meals from a Michelin star chef.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:25 PM
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Most men don’t consciously think that. What happens instead is they’ll say her body is “bad asf” “hot” “sexy” etc and not focus on her face or if they do they’ll say she’s a “butter face”, “hit” etc. It’s not really a conscious thing. Men focus in on the most attractive/enticing thing about a woman first then they notice the rest later.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:19 PM
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Not having clothes doesn’t impact you in anyway unless you live in a very harsh climate. If public nudity wasn’t illegal you’d see a lot more people going naked in most countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:16 PM
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No one goes months without shelter and barely notices. They just prefer the transient life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:15 PM
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They care if there’s no boobs, butt and her face isn’t attractive. Men are usually fine with the absence of 2/3 of those things if the woman has at least 1/3. If she has nothing it’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:11 PM
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They’re not. There’s a lot of women saying the opposite as well. So the overall takeaway is sex means different things to different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:09 PM
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You don’t have to pretend. I’ve gone years at a time with no sex because I had no interest in it. It didn’t negatively impact my life. Not everyone has the same libido. It’s like being an introvert vs extrovert. Some people would be extremely depressed if they couldn’t socialize weekly. Others would be fine without at. Does that mean one is lying? Or do they just have different levels of desire for socializing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:09 PM
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That’s you pathologizing it and adding nefarious intentions. Sex is just not a need for some people and they were asked so they’re honestly expressing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:07 PM
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That’s you taking your own life. That’s not the same as slowly dying due to malnutrition or illnesses related to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:06 PM
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How long is long to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:03 PM
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It’s not equating it to sexual assault and rape it’s just that if you explicitly state that masturbation/going solo isn’t enough of a sexual release for you, then consequently you’ve let it be known that another person is necessary for your sexual release. Delight mentioned sex workers as well and that would be one way to get sexual release while involving another person if you can’t get a partner through dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 07:03 PM
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Yes if she has an average or unattractive face and she’s flat(flat butt and boobs) she’ll be deemed below average despite being thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:59 PM
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It’s definitely more than 10%. Especially when it comes to politics the majority put something in there implicitly/explicitly that let you know where they lean on the political spectrum. I’d say 70% put something in regards to that and the rest have blank bios and or corny lines about wine and dogs. Though, location could matter. In NY, Jersey, PA nearly everyone puts politics in their bio either by referencing their stance or explicitly excluding the side they don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:58 PM
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No. I don’t see it as a need because I could go the rest of my life without it and it wouldn’t negatively impact me in anyway. If my fiancé penis fell off today and we could never have sex again, it wouldn’t change how I feel about him or our relationship. So I’d be fine with a sexless relationship. Sex at this point has a neutral affect on my life. Whereas things I view as needs have a positive impact on my life and well being and I’d be worse off if deprived of them. If I don’t eat I’ll die. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:50 PM
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What work am I putting in if the women are approaching me? Vetting them to get to the ones that are into being bottoms on top of the other compatibilities unless you just wanted sex. that's fine.... that's what dates are for, there is no issue here. I'm not going to complain about having to go on dates... It's like me complaining I have to go to work to get paid. The Perk of not having to go around approaching, makes up for any "work" I'd have to do. Once I find my person I won't have to go on d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:47 PM
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They are. Explicitly or implicitly. They’ll put jokes/dog whistles/references to their political beliefs. They’ll put their hobbies if they smoke weed they usually put that or “4/20 friendly”. They put stuff like 1312, ACAB if they’re liberal. Or if they’re not they’ll say they’re “moderate”. If they’re religious they’ll put something about god or a Bible quote but without the verse and chapter. If they’re not religious sometimes pics give it away. If they believe in astrology they’ll put their …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:41 PM
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The “will of nature” a non-sentient will that depending on the conditions of the environment will drive evolution one way over another. Intelligent design is not my argument. That’s your view. It was not the force of god acting that caused these things nor was it any other sentient being and it was not premeditated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:37 PM
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TLDR. Idk if your point was just to offer clarity or what but either way I’m not interested. What the manosphere does and their conflicts are no longer my concern beyond rogue members who end up deciding to act on their threats of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:34 PM
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Oh yeah fair enough. I agree. It’s not a popular view to vocalize it seems though because then you’re accused of diminishing male issues and lacking empathy for them. However I just don’t get it. We live in a world where there’s an abundance of options and alternatives for sexual release for people who don’t want or can’t get partners.Things are ever advancing on that front as well. Yet men still say they need women for that, while simultaneously holding a lot of resentment over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:49 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:47 PM
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What do you mean by elevating wanting to needing? Like men are conflating the two?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:20 PM
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Interesting as men usually blame this drop off on the woman wanting sex less not themselves. So what’s the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:12 PM
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Men don’t need women in the same way women don’t need men. However men claim that their desire for sex with a live woman trumps this reality. Objectively speaking though, most adults don’t need another to pay their way, buy them a house, or open a bank account for them. So they don’t need each to survive. Some just want each other and confuse that with need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:08 PM
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A lot of them aren’t and even within different sub ideologies there’s a lot of mix up and overlap. So to me it read as them having ultimate common goals good or bad but not agreeing on how to handle them. Plus with MGTOW vs MRA it seemed like a big cause of the issue wasn’t what MRAs were trying to accomplish, it was the fact that they accepted in women as allies. However even then there was a divide among MGTOW on whether or not such a move would be helpful or not. All in all. It seemed like a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:55 PM
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Yep I can definitely relate to that. I don’t really have any solid ideological attachments anymore. I guess the last big difference is my final takeaway is a lot less optimistic than yours. I only help people that actually want it and would return the favor. I don’t really advocate for either sex as whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:39 PM
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Not really. They preach a lot of the same talking points and the followers/supporters overlap. Plus manosphere is a catch all term for all of those ideologies/social movements. Mgtow, MRA, red pill, SYSBM etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:03 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:49 PM
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Thank you for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:28 PM
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I don’t see how actually scrolling through the dating profiles of women at random is out of touch with reality but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:28 PM
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Female models I’ve met say the opposite. The ones who aren’t that popular are broke and single. The ones I’ve seen that marry rich men who take care of them are moderately(moderate as in they’re booked as busy for lower level shows and magazines but they’re not a household name) to very successful. The rest are poor, single or if they’re not they get with guys who definitely aren’t rich. They age out of it after a while and it just becomes a cool thing they did. So it seems that it’s not that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:27 PM
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That's easier said than done, but yes, it's a very noble goal to achieve. Though I believe it is VERY difficult to ignore or distract ourselves from hormonal urges. Estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, melatonin, adrenaline, dopamine, cortisol, serotonin, all play their own big role. I don't think you can distract or therapy away most or all of these when they strike hard. But it can be done. I’ve done it with things more dire than sex so I doubt the process would be any different. It’d be like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:22 PM
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They’re not willed by a sentient being. They’re willed by the reality of the environment the traits survived and were passed down in. The acting force doesn’t have to be a conscience one for the will to be enacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:05 PM
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Southend fishwife?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:03 PM
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Yes. Before I came online I used to be an MRA because of my dads influence. After lurking in manosphere spaces I no longer am.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:03 PM
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Why that specific scenario lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:02 PM
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You mean Listing my preferences? No I mean listing perks. As in the benefits you’d get from the switch. If you were open to pegging or you were not but didn’t list less work as a perk this would make sense. However since you did it doesn’t make sense as the requirement of bottom women only nullifies the advantage of the perk. You’re going to have to put in more work again to find those specific women. It's a perk because I have the suitors coming to me. I do not have to go out and cold approach …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:44 PM
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Women absolutely do. I’ve looked at random womens profiles out of sheer curiosity and most of them are filled out. Hinge especially they’ll put videos or voice notes because it gives you that feature. From people I know personally I’ve seen empty profiles but it’s because they let it go live before they finished filling it out. However after a few days they’ve filled it out & revised it until they’re satisfied w/the final product. More men also commit violent crime. If you isolate criminals gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:35 PM
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So now you’re dropping the argument that they have a purpose? Evolution can happen with a purpose. It’s just not predetermined/premeditated. Let’s say there’s 100 people in a tribe. 60 have fast twitch muscles and can run very quickly a trait that’s advantageous to the environment they live in. It enables them to run away from predators and hunt for food quicker. Survival of the fittest ends up in the 55/60 with FTM surviving and passing on genes while only 15/40 of those without FTM surviving a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:24 PM
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1)He’s not shy if he’s a pastor/youth group leader. You have to be confident, outgoing and comfortable public speaking. 2)That’s the straw-man you’ve created. Your male logic. My argument very clearly was that SA is not unique and exclusive to the club and bars. It happens in churches as well from men you’d led your guard down around because the environment would have one believe that it’s not possible that they’re like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:17 PM
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What I’m saying is you listed having to do less work to find women as a perk, yet in the alternative scenario you put yourself back in the same situation(having to find women) by limiting yourself to women that are exclusive bottoms only. So I’m confused on how that’s still a valid perk to you when your limitations/preferences bring you back to square one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:38 PM
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There’s people who are not into bdsm but are into anal. Just as there’s people who are into bdsm who are not into anal. There’s a wide range of sexual acts people are into and it doesn’t always fit the preconceived mold. Some ask for pictures but with tech these days you can just photo shop yourself into a girl. If you have a beard shave jr clean for the photo days and use that snap chat filter if you’re not tech savvy or Adobe priori shop or some other service if you are. You could use someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:35 PM
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They don’t like feminine short guys with eyeliner and bp doesn’t say they like those traits together. Alt women however do like tall, hot, masculine(in terms of build) men who wear eyeliner and shirk conventional standards of dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:30 AM
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I’m not talking about Lamarck. I’ll use another example. Macaroni. It’s intended use and function was for cooking. However in arts and crafts it’s use and function now becomes for crafting and making Marconi art despite the fact that it wasn’t the reason for its original design.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:27 AM
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I’m not saying there’s a issue I’m just saying in a world where you have a specific kink the issue of having to approach doesn’t disappear because now you have to do the work of seeking out like minded people vs vetting from those who come to you that have a different preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:26 AM
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See what you just said though. Their girlfriends. So a woman they already met and had an established relationship with. She’s someone they know and consequently can make an educated guess about how receptive she would be to such a request. It’s not the same as vetting from those who approach you. You don’t know them yet to see how’d they’d react to a request. So you have to spend time vetting them to see who’s compatible and who also would accommodate your sexual requests. Women actually meet of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:06 AM
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It doesn’t just happen from those type of guys. Women who’ve never gone clubbing have SA experiences as well. A quiet church going girl who seems like easy prey may get SA’d by the pastor or youth leader. Someone more introverted who had male friends that they thought were normal could have the same experience. Honestly I’d argue women that go clubbing/drinking are more vigilant about it. Since party guys are who you’d expect it to come from they’re more guarded around them, they buy drink cover…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:04 AM
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Sex with a woman who is attracted to the man is 1000 times better than browsing through porn and rubbing one out at the end of each lonely night. Why is it better? An orgasm is an orgasm. All of this just seems like post hog rationalization to try to justify pedestalizing one form of sexual release over the other. When in reality if you don’t have any feelings for the person and it’s just about sexual release it should make no difference whether you do that with someone else body or by yourself.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:01 AM
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Thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:51 AM
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Not young women. However if a male model did make a name for himself(not a big one just past the point of near total obscurity) he could be some older rich ladies boy toy same as a female model. Whether or not they’d get married is unlikely but you can enjoy the perks for a season.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:51 AM
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If you’re using old the data is in their profile. If you’re meeting irl you gauge based on how they behave. Now if the device does the work for you and each have a 10% chance of success the man will find his one but the woman would have to decide between the 10 matches and spend more time using the device again to pick one. If that’s not what you’re suggesting then I don’t understand how the probability and time sink of finding a 1 match out of 10 would be the same as finding 1 out of 90 or 100.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:48 AM
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Rapists. Then in general the majority of women in the switch would be looking to penetrate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:44 AM
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When the usage is sex one of the function of the anus does become that. Once again something can have multiple functions depending on the intended usage even if that was not the original plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:44 AM
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You probably see them more often than you think. Men just tend to write off certain behavior from beautiful women as cute and quirky until it starts getting dangerous. Crazy toxic people don’t stick together because they set each other off more often. It’s why they look for a more stable partner and then just put them through the ringer for as long as their partner will tolerate. They do. Out of curiosity I’ve scrolled both men and womens dating profiles to see how valid mens complaints about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:43 AM
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"With clingy", in that context, i meant to start to approach and be close to the other sex in situation that usually are found inappropriate. Usually, indeed, are the men that take initiative and start to approach women and be close to them (sometimes for malicious purposes indeed) That’s still not clingy lol. They’re just horny and taking initiative because either 1) women don’t approach them or 2) the women that do approach them aren’t up to their standard. So they take matters into their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:35 AM
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Judging by current dynamics it’d probably be the same on the flip side. Men who are into pegging don’t always lead with that. More often than not they let the woman coax that out of them. So in an alternative world the women who are into being penetrated would be in the same boat as men who are into pegging. So men would have to come to them for that. I guess that’s why I’m confused, because if you’re narrowing the women you want down to that type you’re putting yourself in the same position as …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:11 AM
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Precisely. If you have low libido, it is not a need. But if you have high libido, it's turns into a ravenous hunger that can be overwhelming. For some men, a release once every 2 days is pretty good, for others, every 2 hours may be the right rhythm. Which I get they may want sex more than others, what I don’t get is why the sexual release has to come from sex and not masturbate or a toy. Masturbation and sex toys are great. I can quell the need with that just fine. Especially when comparing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:01 AM
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I’m not saying it’s a problem. I’m just wondering if it’s that easy why not try applying it now to find women who will give you what you’re looking for? Calling the cops won’t stop them from hurting you. It will only(hopefully) get you justice if they do something. Assuming the cops catch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:34 AM
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Your example still makes no sense why would you be filtering through random pictures instead of using other data to narrow down the vetting process for both? You’d be vetting through those who seem like reasonable options based on the number of people interested in you. Then you vet that group further to see who is actually a good match and who just looked good on paper but turned out to be a a bad match in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:32 AM
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Absolutely you do. You don’t it’s why you see crazy, vulgar and toxic women with “high value” men. They’re just exceptionally beautiful women physically speaking so they have no shortage of men willing to date and often even marry them. Which is why I asked whether or not you were referring to looks or something else when you said “be worth dating” It's a lot harder to judge rmv over online dating, so the bar for entry is still the initial attraction. Besides, if this is still about me my rmv is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:31 AM
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Most sa and rape happens from people you know so more likely than not you(and possibly others in your circle) would think they were not sketchy and that’s how they’d get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:27 AM
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No. I’m a proponent of nuance and understanding that the original intended use/function of something isn’t always stagnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:26 AM
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It may be more or less than 7 depending on your hormones and whether or not you’re on birth control. Fair enough though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:25 AM
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Disagree. Agree to disagree then. Describing it as a Grass is Greener mentality is more supportive of the take that "When men experience what women have to go through, they don't think women have it easier." It's dismissive of the men that don't answer the way women might because it invalidates thier opinions unless they have what you deem to be appropriate experience. Except this is true. When you have experienced both sides of the coin it’s no longer as easy to make definitive claims about wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:25 AM
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The food analogy is a good one. I saw another post where women claim that sex is not a need. (In the context of men's entitlement to women's bodies which is icky, of course). But I still believe it is indeed a need, especially for men. Just like food, IMO. Personally I don’t believe it is a need but I’m low libido. However I’ve also realized it’s a moot point with men because they prioritize sex a lot which is something that will forever be out of the realm of comprehension for someone like me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:21 AM
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The vetting would be harder than you think then as the ratio of women who are ok never topping to those who want to penetrate you would be the same as men now and their sexual intentions with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:16 AM
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Thank you for answering. If you don’t mind answering some follow ups: What have your dating/sex experiences been like so far? Have you had any experience with sexual assault or rape? If so how did it impact you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:15 AM
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I like your entrepreneurial spirit! At least if I understood the idea correctly: i.e. I buy random women's used panties and socks and resell them as "my very personal gift to my very loyal fan"; I hope you didn't mean I should actually sell my own used socks and underwear. The size of my socks alone would give it away. As mentioned, I'm quite tall. No I meant you should buy packs of new panties and perfume. Wear the panties (or put them in your underwear if you’d stretch them out too much) and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:14 AM
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From what I’ve heard most models don’t make much unless they’re a nepo baby with good connections or your agency is amazing. Then there’s the issue of aging out early. So why are so many female models living in broke model houses, making pittances and single without propositions from millionaires unless they make a name for themselves by hitting it big?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:08 AM
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Here’s the thing, with the amount of additional attention women get it really shouldn’t be difficult to find the guys that do want a relationship, and that trope isn’t even true. That depends on whether or not you liking him back is important to you and whether or not you’re fine never living together among other things. Most guys are relationship-agnostic, meaning they’ll take the sex if they can get it, but you have to actually be worth dating for them to want to date you. You don’t have to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:11 PM
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If my current masculine attractive traits (skull shape, height, ...) turn into feminine attractive traits (cute boobs, skin, fingers, toes...), I see no problem making 400 bucks a week without ever showing my face. You could do that now by selling used panties and socks. No one will know you’re not a woman if you don’t tell them and if you’re good enough at sales/marketing you probably wouldn’t even have to buy the panties anymore. Does not follow. How so? The vast majority of men have never tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:06 PM
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You keep saying things like these. What's an example of "their behavior says otherwise" ? See 2 comments above. Anecdotally, I've known plenty women who belittle men and monkey branch, and know plenty of men who take what they can get sexually, and even remain in relationships that are not advantageous for them, but stay because it's a warm body. I’ve known both these types of people as well and men who get the short end of the stick in this case tend to be resentful and jaded. Far cry from bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:59 PM
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Not really. It’s the same take one is just more succinct and the other is just redundant and more verbose for those who didn’t get the original gist. Ultimately it’s the same meaning/intention behind both statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:47 PM
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Thank you for answering and I’m sorry that has been your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:46 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:45 PM
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$400 bucks? Nope women don’t have a prostate while men do. So the equivalent penetration for a man would be sodomy. It’s pleasurable when done consensually but not so much when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:45 PM
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I believe that is the crux of your post and the original post with genders swapped. A lot of men get nothing without a ton of effort and women get a ton of attention with zero effort. Men would gladly trade places with that even if there is increased risk. Looking at the type of men that said who said yes vs no and why this checks out. Sure, women belittle men. They do it all the time. The emasculating insult is a female pastime. Are you condoning that behavior and putting the blame on men becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:43 PM
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I haven’t dismissed any answers at all. All the answers are valid yes and no. It’s just that when you follow up you see clear as day why some men say yes and why others say no. Their experiences drive which way they answer and how much weight they put into the positives vs the negatives which makes complete sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:19 PM
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From what I’ve seen men who answered yes have had more negative than positive experiences dating if they have any dating sex/experience at all and they haven’t experienced sexual assault and harassment. Men who have answered no either have had an easier time dating than the average man and/or they’ve experienced sexual harassment and assault. There’s outliers on both sides but that seems to be the general trend. Which completely checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:17 PM
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Thank you for answering. As for simping. I don’t know if my switch would help with that. It’d be the same as men simping now where it’s lust based. You might have the same issue a lot of women have where plenty of guys want sex but not as many want more. So I apologize for that. I’m very nosy and ask a lot of questions so if you don’t feel comfortable answering other follow ups no hard feelings. I’m just curious about the rest of what you said. You said you dated women you felt were beneath you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:16 PM
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How would you navigate this in the case of it being someone you knew and thought you could trust if they drugged you or got you off guard without your weapons?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:10 PM
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Thank you for answering. Do you mind sharing what your sexual/romantic and SA experiences have been like so far if any?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:09 PM
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This might be a two partner because your comment was pretty long and my reply to it may make it too long for one comment. What i'm argue is a scenario were women start to be as much clingy as men and catcalling them. Except men aren’t that clingy in the current world. They’re lustful not clingy. There’s a difference. In terms of actions, a situation where a woman is catcalled have higher probability to be seen as negative than a situation in which a men get catcalled by a bunch of women. A situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:01 PM
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Women would be the stronger sex in this scenario and they’d typically be looking to penetrate men consensually or otherwise with strap ons. Yes you’d get the same number of women giving you attention and being attracted to you as your current female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:46 PM
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What makes them bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:44 PM
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I know. Same with stalking and trafficking. Doesn’t change the premise of the Q though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:43 PM
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I’m talking about all rape. Stranger and non stranger rape. The rape risk stays because things are switching between men and women. Good and bad, perks and downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:43 PM
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You do have to sort through the 90 failures/9 failures to reach the 1/10 good results. Unless you know just by looking who would/wouldn’t be a good match actual vetting will need to be done. It’s easier and less time consuming to do this if you have less matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:42 PM
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Are you a model already?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:38 PM
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I’m more so arguing that function can follow usage. Somethings function can change depending on what it’s being used for. Like the accessorizing example. When accessorizing what is the function of earrings if not for holding earrings? It’s function changes depending on its usage. I’m sure the creator of spoons didn’t intend for it to be used for drugs. However when it comes to drug usage the function of a spoon now becomes to melt meth or whatever else down so it’s injectable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:38 PM
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I wasn’t surprised at all really. So I framed it in a way to be more discussion driven and pick their brains. It was also interesting to see the difference in the type of men that said yes vs no. Male prostitutes and sex workers are quite common. The reason they’re spoken of less is because they’re less controversial since most cultures don’t hold men to the same sexual purity standards as women. As for the rest of what you’d said they’d have the same limitations/lack of as their female equivale…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:32 PM
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Pregnancy and decreased strength as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:31 PM
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I’m 24 and I’d say yes somewhat for 2 reasons. 1) People insert themselves and complain about the dating dynamics of others too much. They’ll focus more on convincing someone else to date in the way they find acceptable to try and force a match vs just moving on and finding someone who’s already compatible with them. 2) It seems a lot of people particularly those under 30 are in a competition with each other to prove who cares less during the initial talking/courting/early dating phase. Which I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:30 PM
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Yeah all the perks, benefits and risks would flip flop for men and women. I definitely would. I’d be able to carry huge bags of flour and sugar and other heavy stuff more efficiently. Height I could take or leave though. If I was taller great if not I wouldn’t be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:42 PM
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They will take more time because they have more to sort through. So we’ll just have to agree to disagree. The man also has options just less than the woman but the benefit that is that’s he doesn’t have to spend as much time vetting the alternatives to find a replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:38 PM
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They have to do it with less women to find a viable one if they have less suitors. Scant options can actually be a benefit because it eliminates the paradox of choice and reduces the amount of time you need to spend vetting. If you have a 10% chance of find a good match among your suitors. It’s easier to to that if you have 10 options vs 100 options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:36 PM
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You’d get the same as your female equivalent. What have your dating/sexual experiences been like so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:35 PM
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It’s function is also for sexual pleasure. Just as the vagina. Unless you’re arguing that sex should never be done recreationally? If not then the alternative uses do matter as they serve different functions in different scenarios. The primary function of the ears is hearing but when it comes to accessorizing their function is also to hold earrings, gauges etc. Same with the anus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:34 PM
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Majority are penetrated consensually and non consensually which is why I put that in. Docking would’ve worked as well but I don’t know if as many men are into that as being anally penetrated. The point was to draw a parallel between penetrative sex acts. As for the rest of your reply, what have your dating/sexual experiences been like so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:32 PM
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Besides the homophobic, men don’t generally worry about the psychological impacts of sex. Men do it for the visuals and the pleasure of the act itself, penetrating or being penetrated, or even just fondling. They do when it’s not consensual. Men can definitely disconnect sex from the person, the personality, and the emotions. Men are happy to have sex with women that don’t like them or want them for anything more. A woman’s ill intentions are irrelevant. The proof is in men seeking satisfaction …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:31 PM
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Thank your for answering. What have your sexual and romantic experiences been like so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:24 PM
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If you live in a society like that now. It’d be the same in the flip. What have your dating experiences been like so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:23 PM
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Question, did you think writting being forced to "Vaginal Penetration by Attractive women" would have get different answers? If so, why? Expand? Sounds like you’re describing CNC which isn’t the same as rape really. "Role reversed". Now, ignoring for a moment all the previous arguments i made in other comments, it would be actually a bitter more intellectually legit if you didn't claim that this post was a role reversal of the other one, since this one is indeed fairly overly exaggerated (my opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:11 PM
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Thank you for answering. Best of luck to you and hopefully you find quality people to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:01 PM
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Thanks for your reply. Would you mind sharing about your experiences with dating and or SA so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:00 PM
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Nope, I defend my right to make posts and have fun discussions. You have a good one as well(:
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:59 PM
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It’s just an interesting thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:58 PM
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That was the purpose of my question as repeatedly stated I wanted a variety of men to answer with their honest perspectives and I wanted to see how those same men would respond with the addition of new variables. Which is what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:53 PM
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I haven’t told the lies you’re accusing me of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:14 PM
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I didn’t dislike him, I was apathetic to him.I just repeated a statement he made. He said what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:14 PM
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Anal sex isn’t necessarily unpleasant though. Physically speaking. When it’s done against someone’s the physical sensation/violations(for men being assaulted) is similar to being vaginally raped. When it’s done consensually the vulnerability and physical pleasure men experience is similar to what women experience having piv sex which is why I compared them. Entering someone’s body doesn’t have the same psychological impact as someone entering yours good or bad which I why I brought it up. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:13 PM
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I did not. read back. Anyway, what diseased man are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:07 PM
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Except I haven’t told any of the lies you’re accusing me of but if you’re bored I’ll continue to entertain your false accusations whenever I’m on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:59 PM
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Except I never lied. He said what he said. That’s his business. What diseased man are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:58 PM
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No you’d still be a man and look like one. Your social, sexual and reproductive roles just switched. So essentially you wake up one day and everything about you is the same but now you live in a world where women are the stronger sex, they’re the more sexually zealous ones and they consistently pursue men for anal sex(where the woman is top) sex where you can get pregnant from. I more so want to know now that impacts your opinion on how you’d approach/view sex and how you’d choose to navigate an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:52 PM
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Fair enough thank you for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:49 PM
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Or they can get sugar babies and go abroad like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:48 PM
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Who’s making what up? Objectively can’t say. The claim though is that femcels are lying and that they don’t actually exist. That may apply to men who want a modern exclusive relationship and long term partnership. But for men who are done with that (burned and scorned by women, chopped in half by divorce, paying alimony, and not seeing their children as much because she wanted someone better) I don’t think the reason for the dumping matters as long as there was pumping. Men are inherently and bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:48 PM
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In relationship to the point you may trying to prove not really. I think the thing you’re misunderstanding about me is that my intention was not to prove a point. It was to be nosy, to satisfy my curiosity and pick mens brains at a larger volume than I can do offline. To see how a variety of men responded to different variables and scenarios and why if they were open to expanding. Just a question op, why you didn't ask men this: "Would you trade getting catcalled and occasional harassment if it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:43 PM
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Thank you for answering!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:27 PM
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Thank you for your response!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:27 PM
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You never pointed out a single time I lied by omission. You just took issue with me bringing up a statement you’d have rather been ignored. Then we’ve both been petty and going back and forth for a bit now about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:26 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:25 PM
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Have you traveled much? Solicited sex workers or switched up the age range/demographics you date within.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:24 PM
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I have actually. A lot of men answered both the original and the follow up and it allowed me to see a decent range of their thought process on this. Even the answers that didn’t provide that were still very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:23 PM
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Yet I’ve never lied about anything he’s said. He chose to say it on video and post it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:22 PM
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They can’t. Most men want younger women and older men that still go for older women(and young men into cougars) aren’t going for the ones that are 2s. They’re going for 45 year old women that are 5+. So those women aren’t getting sexual or romantic attention. You misunderstood what I’m saying. They dismiss the existence of those women entirely. Sex doesn’t even factor into the equation because the focus is on telling those women they’re making it up and trolling them. Men overwhelmingly would li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:22 PM
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Thank you for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:19 PM
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They wouldn’t be super aggressive gay men. They’d be women but the roles between men and women would just be switched. So women would be stronger, they’d be more sexually zealous, men would get more sexual attention good and bad, men would be the ones being penetrated and they’d be the ones incurring most of the sexual risks like pregnancy etc. To answer your question more specifically though they’d just be the female equivalent of male rapists. Aggressive, horny and physically stronger women ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:19 PM
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The thing you’re misunderstanding though it the number of options isn’t what matters it’s the probability that a match is viable. Let’s say a man has ten candidates and the woman 100. They each have a 10% chance of finding something suitable. The man has less women to pick from but he also has less to disregard and vet before he finds one that’s suitable so it’s less time wasted to find something. The woman has more options but she also has to spend more time vetting to get to a suitable match.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:05 PM
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You actually do because most people don’t showcase their glaring red flags off the bat. You have to vet them and then decide to proceed or disregard. That’s a process that takes time. Then if they don’t take no for answer that’s more effort exerted to get them off your back legally or socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:01 PM
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I ask these questions out of genuine curiosity. Do you think your fear is common among men? Do you think it’s equally as common among men and women(even if it doesn’t present the same) Do you think having solid relationships with friends and family assuages this fear. I know it doesn’t replace a romantic partner but having friends and family who care about you can still prevent you from dying alone which is why I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:00 PM
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You wouldn’t necessarily have an increased chance of finding love. Just finding sex. Your chances of both would be the same as your female equivalent. It’d just be a role reversal. Men would get more sexual attention(good and bad) they’d incur the same sexual risks women currently do, and they’d take on the same common sexual postion(being the one penetrated and being sexually pursued by women who want to penetrate them vs the reverse). Also why do you fear being alone if you don’t mind me askin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:57 PM
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Would you mind making this a thread? I’m genuinely curious how men would answer. I’d do it myself but if I bring up anal vs piv again in a thread I think I’d really tick some people off lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:55 PM
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From what I’ve seen here it depends on how risk averse/tolerant the man is, what kind of sex he’d be receiving, risk to reward ratio and what sexual experiences he’d had to date. All those impacted how men here have answered the original question and the follow ups in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:54 PM
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That seems to be the general trend here. The sexual experiences of the men answering good or bad impacts which way they answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:53 PM
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Forced sodomy would be rape which would fall under the umbrella of sexual harassment/sexual violation. It’s not all just crude comments. My only assignment is to ask questions to see how people respond and then compare and contrast when there are different variables at play. How would they respond in scenario A vs B. Would there be a difference in response? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:52 PM
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They’re generally not being sodomized and risking pregnancy by the women they date down with and it’s not being done against their will by women stronger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:51 PM
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So are you arguing men desire to be raped by women but only if it’s PIV rape or cunnilingus?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:49 PM
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It’s a curious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:47 PM
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Thank you for your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:47 PM
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The type of violence dictates the risk for each sex. In my hypothetical it would be reversed. Thank you for your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:47 PM
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Because that would be mens role in a flip flopped hypothetical. They’d be zealously pursued and given lots of sexual attention but by women who want to penetrate them. Homosexual men don’t want to have sex with women whether the woman is topping him or not lol. Which is why I posed this question to men who are interested in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:46 PM
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I’d agree I think there’s benefits and downsides to both sides but each party tends to focus on what they don’t have and think the grass is greener.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:44 PM
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You can imagine and think how you’d feel. Which is why I asked the question in the way I did so men would just respond honestly and openly about their feelings. If they didn’t give a lot of context or reasoning I could always ask follow up questions to see how certain things would change their mind and it what way their mind would change if at all. Which I got. Asking the question in the way I did then asking follow ups allowed me to see the following: How men feel about rape when there’s a risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:44 PM
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How do they look now. Where do they rank numerically in comparison to other men? How do they rank in terms of desirability in comparison to other men. It’d be the same if sexual attention flip flopped. If you were a 3 in terms of desirability compared to men you’d be a 3 still in the eyes of women but you’d be treated like how women who are 3s get treated. Same if you were an 8, 1,5 etc. I know it’s a bit crass to assign a numerical value but that’s the best way I can explain it succinctly. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:37 PM
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Thank you for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:35 PM
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It’s a total role reversal so your benefits and risks would be the same as your female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:34 PM
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Fair enough, thank you for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:34 PM
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Why wouldn’t you want to be a woman. If womens lives are better as many in this sub claim wouldn’t you want to take the trade?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:33 PM
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I didn’t like or dislike his opinions I was apathetic to him as a person. His fans were a whole other story, some were unhinged and those ones I didn’t like. For KS himself I haven’t told a single lie about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:32 PM
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Nope a person in this sub saw a topic, was bored and decided to do their own spin on it to satisfy their curiosity and they were not disappointed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:31 PM
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So they are not men anymore, they are women. They’re still men, they’re just men that can get pregnant. Looks wise they’d be the same just biological roles, physical strength and social roles would change. Do women enjoy on average topping men or they actually like more normal coitus and you are actually twist the other question of the other guy as much as you can so you can get negative answers? Plenty due it’s why pegging is a thing.It’d just be even more common in the role reversal. Pegging i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:30 PM
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Ok thank you for your follow up. It’s much appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:27 PM
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Previous question: "Would you exchange being catcalled with having 0 attention" And I expanded on it and posed it to men. I listed more positives and negatives. The negatives may have triggered some people but they weren’t the sole focus of the question. Come on Cup, Come on. You were slightly bothered by the question of that guy so you overexaggerated his question in effort to force your point as much as possible. Nope. I was intrigued by mens responses and wanted to see how they would answer i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:26 PM
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Incel/femcel women are already told that and worse. They’re dismissed just like incels but they’re even dismissed by incels as well as “not being real”. In the real world 1-4s don’t get attention past a certain age even if they work hard. What you said is true when they’re young but not when they’re older.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:18 PM
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I actually expected many to not grasp how it feels and my point want proven by the difference in responses from men who have been sexually violated vs those who haven’t been. It confirmed my suspicions that it’s just a grass is greener mentality and not that they’d actually want the downsides. Even when many were imaging the downsides they were thinking they’d be violated by women weaker than them who are at least somewhat attractive. Which would not be happening in reality if the roles were com…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:16 PM
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Nope, I’m saying consensual sexual roles would reverse as well. So women would be showering men with more sexual and romantic attention in the hopes that he’ll return the sentiments and agree to be penetrated by her. So everything reversed. Strength, typical positions during sex, risk factors for each during consensual sex, amount of sexual attention given etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:14 PM
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Thank you for sharing. Risk of sodomy done forcefully against your will is the same as womens risk currently of being vaginally raped. For the overall risk of women wanting to have you in that position it’d be the same as the risk/frequency of men wanting to penetrate women currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:12 PM
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May I ask what your sexual/romantic life has been so far? How much positive attention have you gotten and how much negative(in terms of SA/catcalling by women etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:10 PM
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Thank you for answering!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:09 PM
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A curious one yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:09 PM
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Thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:08 PM
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Why not transition or play with gender roles/stereotypical dress a bit to present as female?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:08 PM
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They don’t. If they’re over 30 and a 3/4 they’re generally ignored by the vast majority of men. Men even joke and say those women 1-4s live the lives of average men. Very telling. If nothings stopping you that can be done now as a man as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:07 PM
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Probably because transitioning can be dangerous especially for FtM there’s way more points of failure for bottom surgery of FTM than MTF. Plus you can live and identify as a woman and still present in a “masculine” way that would get you the same perks men do. A lot of women would rather just be butch than just transition. I can attest to that. When I am out in public and don’t want to be bothered I dress and present in a way that would read as male to most people as long as I don’t talk. So if …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:05 PM
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You wouldn’t keep any of that. It’s a total reversal. Women are stronger, more sexually zealous and they give men more sexual attention than the reverse whether that’s in a good way or a bad way. They’re also the ones that top during sex(penetratively via pegging) everything switches good and bad. Deal or no deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:02 PM
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It’s also called prostrate stimulation. I think you’re confused body parts can have more than one use/function.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:01 PM
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It's a false equivalence (expecially for a question that claim to be a reversal of a question around catcalling) since the anus natural function is not to being penetrated (but some people enjoy anal penetration). The genitalia of women instead are made with the fuctional purpose to tackle Heterosexual intercourse/coitus, i.e penetration. Women (theoretically speaking) enjoy on average more being penetrated than penetrate due to physiological reasons. It’s a genuine equivalence. The anus is mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:00 PM
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What I found, which is unsurprising. Is that mens answered depending on their sexual experiences good and bad. Those who had a lot of both were generally not ok and those who had little of both were.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:57 PM
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Not if in the switch women are the ones that are now physically stronger and sexually zealous(in a good or bad way)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:56 PM
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And indeed i wasn't arguing that. The question at that point should be if men would like to be forced to have Vaginal intercourse with a woman...and you know that the answer may be on average not as you would expect with women. No the question is and should be are men ok with accepting the trade off with the risk of being penetrated against their will among other things. Heck, there are a lot of men here (see the replies to the post) that are fine with such extreme negative scenario (which wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:55 PM
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And if they follow you, escalate and are stronger than you what then? The police don’t always respond as quickly as you need them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:46 PM
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Everything would be reversed in terms of roles, risks and benefits so you’d get the same experience as your female looksmatch. If she can lock down a hot guy, you’d be able to lock down a hot woman. If not then you’d have the equivalent experiences with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:45 PM
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You might be able to find that on fetlife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:44 PM
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Frequency vs impossibility. Currently both men/boys and women/girls can be trafficked for sexual labor or manual labor however women/girls tend to be trafficked for the former and men for the latter. So the risks of each for both sex would flip flop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:43 PM
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You get whatever benefits or drawbacks your female equivalent currently gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:41 PM
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I do need to bring in sodomy because that’s the equalizing penetrative aspect. I’m not talking about a man’s fear vs a woman’s fear. I’m talking about my personal opinion. I wouldn’t want someone to try to force a sex act on me against my consent period but if I had to choose between the lesser of two evils. I’d rather not be the one penetrated. Also in this hypothetical everything switches, so women are stronger, women are the ones penetrating men, men incur more of the risks from sex, they als…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:41 PM
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It would be based on the risk-reward of your female looks-match whatever that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:38 PM
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I should’ve been more clear but in the hypothetical women would be stronger. Everything would flip pretty much good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:38 PM
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Might be different in other parts of Poland. Catcalling is worse in some parts of the US than others and some places it doesn’t really happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:34 AM
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The penetrative sex is an important aspect. That’s what makes rape so scary. While both with be violating it’d be less scary to have someone demand you stick something in them against your will vs someone forcing something into you against your will. Most here know that which is why they take issue with the sodomy tid bit. Forced penetration is forced penetration though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:32 AM
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Which most men wouldn’t willingly sign up for
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:30 AM
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You forget though you’re trading your risk of lethal stranger violence for lethal violence at the hands of a partner or someone you know. Interesting I thought you would’ve still wanted to trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:29 AM
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I don’t think that’s the reason most of them took it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:27 AM
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It’s a hypothetical reversal of all roles so I’m not seeing how exactly the question is unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:27 AM
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Good points! Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:26 AM
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Not just rape SA in general
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:26 AM
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It might. Depends on how much sex and what quality your female looksmatch gets. It’d be the same as that. Just role reversed so men would be the ones being penetrated and incurring the risks of that but they’d also have more women pursuing them and giving them attention good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:26 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:24 AM
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Interesting. So in your opinion, why don’t more men sign up for these things now and push for a total role reversal(in the ways that are possible).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:23 AM
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Anal rape of a man by a woman is still heterosexual sex. If you include rape under your umbrella of sex. Either way all that’s required for heterosexual sex is that the two parties performing sex acts on each other be members of the opposite sex. So a woman penetrating a man falls under that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:22 AM
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Being penetrated is also a function of the anus and the mouth. So it’s an good equivalence. The fact that men are arguing against it being included says a lot about how they feel about non-consensual penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:21 AM
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It’s a complete role reversal so women would be the ones topping men, men would be the ones incurring risk in terms of pregnancy, sexual harassment, sex trafficking etc. They’d just also be pursued the same rate and by the same quality women as their looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:20 AM
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Ohhh good choice (:
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:19 AM
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Yeah it’d be a total role reversal and you’d have the same pros and cons in dating as your looksmatch. Everything else is reversed. Men incur most sexual risks(pregnancy, birth control) they’re the ones penetrated, harassed and trafficked more etc. But they also are the ones that are pursued more sexually and get more attention on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:18 AM
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They’d be pegging you though, still cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:16 AM
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So people think. Yet they can freely play as both sides if they want and most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:16 AM
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They actually are. It’s a mix of answers and the answers vary depending on what the men have experienced. Most of those who have experienced what’s typically attributed to women said no, those who haven’t said yes. Checks out. It’s a grass is greener mentality as I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:08 AM
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I realized I had a typo I meant interracial and intra-racial. Plenty of sane men said no. It seems it depends on how much of each side they’ve personally experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:06 AM
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The question wasn’t putting emphasis on the negatives. It was bringing clarity so men here know the roles are completely reversed. Sex risks would and common positions would be the same as now so women would be penetratively topping, they’d be the stronger sex, they be the ones catcalling and sexually harassing men at higher rates and with greater distribution,women would be the ones incurring pregnancy risks but men would also get all the perks their current looksmatches get. It’d be a total ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:05 AM
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The likelihood of either of those things happening would be the same as your current female looksmatch. Whatever that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:02 AM
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Fair enough thank you for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:01 AM
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Interracial crime is rarer than interracial crime so in that scenario the trade off would be more beneficial as risk of being robbed by black people would decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:00 AM
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It’d be the same type of attention as your female looksmatch & age match positive and negative and the same upsides and downsides as well. Not bad faith at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:04 AM
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I’m sorry you went that and thank you for sharing your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:42 AM
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Yeah seems I wasn’t clear on that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:38 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:38 AM
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What’s your favorite kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:38 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:37 AM
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Yes. The risks of sex and sexual roles would be swapped as well as sexual attention good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:37 AM
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This would only be your reality if you were a 6/7+ female in terms of looks under the age of 30. If the gender swapped version of you isn’t that, you’ll end up disappointed with expectations like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:36 AM
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If you get blitz attack or aren’t as quick as your attacker?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:35 AM
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It’s role reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:34 AM
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Then that would mean the probability of you getting the perks would be the same rate as a woman of that demographic as well. So lower than an 18-25 year old woman. It would be negligible risk but also less attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:34 AM
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Sure but the bulk of those who are sex trafficked are girls. Men and boys are usually trafficked for manual labor. So in the hypothetical this would switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:33 AM
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No not famous. If they’d want the same treatment as their female equivalents with all the same up and downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:31 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:30 AM
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Yeah it’d be a complete role reversal of all the positives and negatives in terms of sex/romance and the attention that brings good and bad. So in this hypothetical men would be the ones penetrated and who take on moats of the physical risks of sex but they’d also get complimented and approached and have the same up and downsides of that that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:30 AM
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If the attacker has a gun as well what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:28 AM
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How would you avoid the downsides?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:27 AM
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Not exclusively it’ll be the same as what women get. The women complimenting you and their intentions will have the same variation as the men that currently do it to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:27 AM
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So what’s your answer to the q? Would you make the trade or would you rather not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:33 PM
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You’re confusing yourself with me. I haven’t pushed a narrative and I haven’t told a single lie about that dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:18 PM
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Nope, no narrative and nothing was ignored. He said what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:00 PM
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Never ignored anything. He said what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:17 AM
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Nope what he actually said, because it’s the truth. It’s what he chose to say of his own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:20 PM
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Nope, I mean repeating what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:20 AM
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Nah, I prefer repeating what people said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:14 AM
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Apparently I can not as I have yet to do so. No lies he said what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:01 AM
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I can’t keep doing something I never started. I’ll keep living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:58 AM
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Nah I never ignored anything and I have no agende. He said what he said. Who are the red table tops?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:26 AM
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My fiancé is. As I said if I never found a man that was like that I’d be fine. I’m 24 I wanted chivalry because I liked the relationship and family dynamics of women that I saw who married men like that. So I modeled after what they did in order to obtain it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 12:26 AM
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I can get all parts of a relationship from other aspects of my life but it’s nice to have them in one place. What I personally was looking for was a masculine, chivalrous man who wanted a family. Who I could cherish and would cherish me. I found it. Had I not I would’ve still been able to get emotional intimacy from friends, cuddles hugs etc and been able to have a family with them as well or just become a foster mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:03 PM
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Lol seems they just evaded the questions in totality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:39 PM
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No agenda. I just heard what he said and repeated it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:38 PM
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A lot of below average men don’t want to date below average women though. Idk if you saw the thread about fat men but there were some in there admitting that they don’t want to date fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:55 PM
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Except it isn’t this or nothing. Sex bots are a thing now. Also being single is a valid choice. Plenty of women choose that when they don’t get what they’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:53 PM
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Yeah it is true. There’s a lot of desperate women that will take any man just to say they have one and all they ask if you don’t screw them over too hard. They don’t require you to be attractive, well menor, well off or even loyal. Just a steady companion. Those women are often the main ones you see online complaining about the bar being super low for men. It’s because they have no self esteem so they don’t have any standards for men or enforce any boundaries. Then there’s the second set that al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:50 PM
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Yes I see where you’re going and maybe she doesn’t like making chocolates cakes anymore. Maybe she thought she could grin and bear it and just make the chocolate cakes but then realized how taxing it actually it and there’s not point in even pretending to like making chocolate cakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:44 PM
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So why don’t more get vasectomies and practice the advice they give to women? “Vet better and choose better”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:41 PM
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I haven’t lied by omission either. He said what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:39 PM
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Yet I did. He said what he said. You can’t create a false narrative by repeating what someone said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:17 AM
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Everything I’ve said is logically sound. Men are aiding and abetting the behavior they complain about. So are you implying that women are mass raping men to get their numbers up? Otherwise your logic and your analogy don’t many any sense. It takes 2 consenting people for sex to happen. So it’d be more like 2 people agreeing to have a street fight. Or two people agreeing to commit a crime. There may be greater accountability for the planner but the accomplice doesn’t get off scot free. Why is log…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:27 PM
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Idk what so difficult for you to understand. women choose to be promiscuous and therefore become unfit for relationships and therefore prevent these men from having relationships because they are so numerous. Men being promiscuous doesnt make them unfit for relationships, it rather makes them fitter in any way. Women get damaged by promiscuity and prevent themselves from being relationships by being promiscuous. I don’t understand what’s so difficult for you to understand. Complaining that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:53 PM
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I like them and incorporate them a bit in my current relationship. I don’t judge those who don’t adhere to them though. Diversity is nice so those with different personality types are free to be themselves and date likeminded people. My family dynamic was the opposite of traditional I guess. My mom was the breadwinner she worked crazy long hours, she was always stressed and tired and never had any time to come to our events or really be involved in our lives. My dad worked too but he didn’t thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:16 PM
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That depends on what kind of women he’s trying to date on how well he aged(in terms of looks, income, assets etc) if he’s in good shape, good looking and has a decent amount of disposable income that he’s willing to spend on dates he can do decent with younger women and women 30+ if he chooses to date them. If he’s out of shape and not the best looking but he’s mentally stable, doesn’t have any major red flags, has a stable steady job, his own place and car he can do well with women 30+ but he’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:12 PM
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It’s not “exclusively” for women it’s just targeted at w women as it caters to their fantasies. They should consume it to know what women find arousing and what their romantic fantasies are. Why wouldn’t they think to watch it for educational purposes? I’m sincerely asking here because the playbook is literally right there. It’s like women looking at mens mags and media to find out what men like. Whether or not they choose to do anything with that information is a different story but they look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:08 PM
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Nope, I listened to what he said in full. Doesn’t mean what he said isn’t what he said. My narrative is completely factual. I have not told a single lie about him or what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:05 PM
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How can I lie and misrepresent it when he said it out of his own mouth? If I say I like salmon, then later say I like halibut. Are you telling lies and misrepresenting me if you repeat to others that I like salmon or are you just repeating what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:45 PM
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Except I’m not saying everyone could’ve been rich or that consuming the information would have made all men sexually successful. I’m simply saying it would’ve eliminated the cause of the main complaint. For men who had access to books, tv and movies. If they had chosen to consume the media women create/that is created for women about their sexual and romantic fantasies they would have the information they’re seeking. Whether or not they would’ve been able to successfully apply that information t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:44 PM
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yes it is, people get mental issues from not having sex so it is an essential need to be heathy. saying that isnt a need is like saying you dont need space and warm food nor freedom to survive, so if I keep you in a cage that you barely fit in, never let you out and feed you with bread and water, thats not violating essential needs since you survive, right? please They can get their mental health issues remedied and in check without sex. They can still survive and learn to thrive without it. Unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:41 PM
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As I said there’s a minority of women into male traits that are considered undesirable as well but that doesn’t change the typical trends. Most men are not into all body types. They’re into young women with hood HtW ratios. How much body fat % they’ll accept may vary man to man as long as there’s still a visible hourglass figure. However that’s generally what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:36 PM
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Men don’t find every type attractive and it’s why they pushed back so hard at the body positivity/fat acceptance movement. They felt it was an attempt at shaming/guilting them into changing their preferences. There’s exceptions to the rule but that doesn’t change general trends. There’s women that are chubby chasers as well, women who prefer shorter men, women who like penises on the smaller end of the spectrum and women who like very slim lithe men. However that doesn’t take away from what wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:25 PM
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So then why claim women have it easy working when compared to men when men could just do the same jobs women do? I’m talking men in general here. Why does it matter how much respect and appreciation women have for men in those jobs? It goes both ways there’s not a lot of respect and appreciation for women in jobs considered “low status” no matter how essential it is to societal functioning. At a certain point you have to let it be water off a ducks back. As long as they’re not making your job ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:22 PM
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It is a choice as sex isn’t an essential need and even if you consider such there’s other ways to get it besides being promiscuous and sleeping with the same promiscuous women who’s lifestyles you decry. They are choosing to do that vs exercising other options to get their sexual needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:21 PM
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Until a 6ft4 guy making 300k who’s slept with less women comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:20 PM
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Yes and no, men could have technically found out the truth sooner if they knew they were being lied too. But that is impossible for men to know until they figure out they are being lied too. It is a form of victim blaming to blame men for believing what they were taught. They weren’t being lied to. As I said. Romantic media for women gave a playbook. Most men just weren’t into consuming “chick flicks” and reading books for “horny housewives” if they had though they would’ve seen what women desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:20 PM
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The articles are 2 minute reads at most and the video has the info you’re looking for from the start. So it’s obvious you’re avoiding them because you didn’t want evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:11 PM
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So you weren’t interested in seeing the evidence and you aren’t going to provide any. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:32 AM
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I think most peoples issue is the fact that men don’t want a raw deal by dating promiscuous women and they chastise women all the time for expecting men to put up with that, but then they turn around and expect women who haven’t contributed that to put up with promiscuous men while trying to frame it as if promiscuous men are better partners despite stats showing they’re associated with the same poor relationship outcomes and risks that promiscuous women are. Does your girlfriend know you’ve sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:32 AM
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LOL. The statistics are what associates high-N women with poor long term relationship outcomes. I'm sorry that reality doesn't adhere to your desires honey, but it's not the fault of big bad men for reading studies. And the statistics are what adhere unattractive men to poor relationship outcomes. Yet it’s still concluded that women despise them. You'll have to provide quotes or timestamps for where women are despised there. You’ll have to read and watch them to see. Anyway where’s your counter …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:25 AM
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That factor is irrelevant as men are also simps, “incels”(for most of them anyway) and beta bucks by choice but it doesn’t stop men from concluding that women despise those men. So I’m applying the same logic here. Those men could very easily just choose to live chaste lives. They have a choice, they’re spinning plates and sleeping with promiscuous women because they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:21 AM
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Tbh men sold themselves those lies. Most male made media that involves some kind of romance(media that’s intended for male audiences) pushed the idea that the ugly/fat/socially inept guy could get the hot girl through perseverance or playing the hero in some way. Media made for or by women that involves romance typically has conventionally attractive men as the object of affection. As for random women being explicit about what they want that’s counterproductive. They want naturals and/or men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:16 AM
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Of course I can. I can't prove a negative, but I've read countless respected red pill sources and understand what red pill is. I'm not looking at idiots on forums and cherry picking every bad thing they say and acting like it's the core of RP. As have I and the general view towards promiscuous women is negative. You can try to hamster it and pretend that the positive is a negative but they wouldn’t be associating high n women with societal decline and poor long term relationship outcomes if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:10 AM
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What you've seen a few people claim on forums has nothing to do with me and nothing to do with red pill. If you want to judge red pill based on the most extreme cases you deliberately seek out online that's your choice. Except it has a lot to do with the red pill. You can’t make an affirmative claim that the red pill doesn’t feel x way about promiscuous women. Whether or not it has anything to do with you personality depends on how willing you are to stand firm on your implication that your pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:51 AM
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Depends on your idea of “big” but also good skin, good hair, decent amount of musculature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:07 AM
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My bad I need to go back to bed I thought you typed “English fixing the situation” and was so confused lol. Fixing the situation would entail living chaste lives, and shaming promiscuous men the way simps are shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:04 AM
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So you claim yet when women talk about men in the same way rp men talk about high n women it’s claimed that women despise those men. Even using what you’ve said here. If women said incel men or whatever other types of men are great for practice dates or getting lavished by, men would take that as a negative and use it to say that women don’t like those kinds of men. Yet you try to frame it as a positive when it’s men doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:26 AM
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Red pill and manosphere guys aren’t moral men concerned about fixing the situation. They complain about stuff but have a “if you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em attitude” about things. They’re pretty open and upfront about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:25 AM
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The same way you see men fawn over fit women with great skin, hair and proportions but you don’t see them gushing over overweight women, women with cystic acne etc. The diversity in tastes come after you meet someone’s minimum looks thresholds. Before that point people are selecting for traits that signal youth, virility, physical and reproductive fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:14 AM
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Only the boldest people who are unaffected by shaming will openly state their standards. Most other people you’ll get hints at best and you’ll have to figure it out based on who they choose to date/reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:05 AM
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True this is a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:04 AM
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You could become a male nurse. Male nurses are well received because they’re physically stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:03 AM
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It was hard for me at first but then I figured out how to style myself well, how to talk to/flirt with men without being awkward, I gained weight and I switched up the demographic of men I was dating and then it became very easy to find what I was looking for. It was hard at first because talking to men made me anxious, and I was very reserved and gave off major push over vibes so I used to attract a lot of crazies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:29 PM
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I don’t think most women hate video games. Ultimately I can only speak for myself but what would annoy me is when they knew they were going to be playing the game but would still invite me over or continue plans and not reschedule. I didn’t understand what the point of having me over to watch them play games was. I could’ve just stayed in the comfort of my own home chilling. Maybe some men are better at managing their relationships and game play but the ones who aren’t probably leave a bad taste…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:56 PM
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Most of the burden is on the custodial or the state currently. Only a minority of custodial parents get their full allotted child support payments. So who do you think is covering the costs when it’s not the other parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:11 PM
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Because he’s physically unaffected and the possible mental impacts are seen as being less severe due to lack of physical impact abortion has on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:09 PM
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Depends on the type of man. For average men I’d say 3-5 depending on how good their social skills are and how good they are at styling themselves. For good looking men I’d say difficulty is a one and for unattractive men I’d say 8-10. Difficulty again depending on their social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:07 PM
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He’s half responsible for getting her pregnant so their consequences and benefits should be equalized. I don’t think it’s fair that the man is half responsible for the consequences and would be able to escape them without any suffering while women can’t regardless of what they choose. No matter what route a woman takes there will be pain and potential physical risks. A man signing a piece of paper is not equivalent to this whether or not he proves he told her he didn’t want kids pre-sex. So to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:57 PM
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Fixed it thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:46 PM
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I agree. I’m just bringing it up to bolster the point that women are less likely to orgasm during a first time hookup than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:46 PM
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Yes. If men want abortion they should take on equal risk and pain of having one. Signing a paper is not equal to having a surgical procedure or taking medicine to induce a miscarriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:52 PM
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Abortion already comes with a risk of permanent infertility. So men are getting the better deal as vasectomies are reversible. You can also feel free to sub out vasectomies with another medical procedure for men that’s equal to abortion in terms of pain and risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:47 PM
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They do feel like they aren’t practicing the teachings of their lord. They just also feel that they will be forgiven later for sinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:47 PM
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The thing is though, it’s not mistreatment I’m talking about it’s mediocrity. A guy who is verbally abused by his wife, never has sex with her, doesn’t get any emotional support or comfort from her etc is very different from a man who does get all those positive things but just in lower frequency than if his wife was wildly attracted to him. So maybe instead of sex multiple times a day everyday he gets it a couple times a week or month, she speaks to him kindly and emotionally supports him but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:44 PM
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In the US it is possible you just have to fit certain circumstances. Prove you’re unfit or find another parent to replace you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:41 PM
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I agree but it should come with a vasectomy or procedure as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:41 PM
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I believe men should have the right to a financial abortion but they should have to get a vasectomy or some other physical procedure that’s equal in pain, risk and invasiveness to abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:40 PM
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You’d be surprised. There’s plenty of people who think /know they can’t do any better so they’ll happily put up with treatment that’s at least semi-decent to avoid being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:34 PM
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They can know and still be fine with it as long as their wife is providing what they want as well. They only get upset and embittered when she stops doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:29 PM
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If their wife is not sleeping with them or she’s sleeping with another man then that’s traversed into the territory of “not being warm or affectionate anymore”. So I covered that. When things aren’t at point many are fine with the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:25 PM
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Yet they date women that do that as long as they get a piece of the action too. It’s all illogical. A woman that slept with other men in her twenties should be condemned if you meet her in her thirties but if she’s doing that and she’s still in her twenties then it’s A-ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:14 PM
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A lot of them do know and they’re fine with it. They know part of their role is to be a provider. They only seem to get upset if their wife is no longer affectionate and warm towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:13 PM
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If that’s how you want to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:12 PM
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I’m not “worried” about it I’m just sharing my opinion. If any women want to ask I’ll gladly share. Most would not appreciate unsolicited advice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:49 PM
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For a lot of people that’s how they start relationships now. I don’t know very many women who just hook up for the sake of sleeping with that guy once or twice. Most hookup with him in the hopes that it will turn into a relationship or at least an friends with benefits arrangement where he puts in effort to get them off too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 06:27 PM
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That’s the thing that always gets me lol. “Oh I’m not going to be like those saps, I’m going to finance a hot younger woman” it’s literally the same thing the only difference is you’ve widened the age gap. So it seems like they don’t actually have a problem with beta buxxing they only have an issue doing it for women over 25 or 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:43 PM
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“Trans women are women”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:41 PM
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Yep exactly! I had a similar problem. I used to be extremely fatigued to the point where people thought I had narcolepsy. Literally if I sat down still for more than 20 minutes I knock out. It was all diet though, I was eating junk snacks and only having 1 real meal a day. Once you take those first couple steps it gets easier it’s just hard for a lot of people to make the initial time commitment because they’re so tired. I don’t even think most realize that their daily routine is why they have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:40 PM
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I don’t think my fiancé would like it if I got a boyfriend lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:36 PM
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Doesn’t sound like it from this discourse, but you know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:20 AM
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You actually do but they complain in private. Not publicly like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:07 AM
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What happened to TWAW? Don’t they date trans men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:05 AM
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Most women don’t desire the same thing for a physique though as there’s 3 different kinds that are quite popular right now among women. Slim, slim thick and thick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:01 AM
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Most men aren’t into giving oral to a ons. That’s something they do for longer term exclusive fwb or girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:57 AM
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No they don’t and data on the orgasm gap shows that. For women it gets better when the man learns her body. A new random hookup doesn’t know your body yet and he may never care to learn. So being able to sleep with more men doesn’t mean it’s enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:53 AM
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It’s no different than women having a change of tune. Plenty of people(men and women) are happy at the start of their relationship and for a good portion of the duration of it. Most relationships that end don’t end on good terms for both people so towards the end you’ll see them angry and venting. Doesn’t mean that the good times weren’t actually good. It just means that when they’re hurt during the bad times they’re going to want to express that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:50 AM
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Lmaoo that’s crazy as hell though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:49 AM
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If they were looking for a relationship they didn’t see any success. I’m not trying to come at you. It just seems like this it seems like there’s not much difference whether they approach first or not. Which is what I thought anyway. Women approaching first only helps if you’re into vey shy men. Otherwise there’s no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:48 AM
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It definitely didn’t work lol. Unless they all were just looking for sex only?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:47 AM
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Or another angle. Even if they are beta buxxes they’re genuinely happy to do it. There’s men that are openly and proudly into findom. Could be the same here the men sincerely enjoy providing for their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:44 AM
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I am as I have a solid gym routine. Partially for my own fitness goals but also because I’m in the National guard and we have to be able to pass the ACFT now. For others though I think it’s a negative feedback loop stopping them. They don’t have any energy to go to the gym because of the food most Americans eat and the lifestyle/work life balance of most employees here. Getting fit and changing up your diet can give you more energy but you have to be extremely motivated to take those first steps…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:42 AM
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The women who usually put up with that were lacking both love and financial stability in their lives. It’s easier to view lack of love and emotional safety as “normal” that it is to view extreme poverty that way. So if they find a man that provides financial stability they’ll tolerate lack of emotional stability because they never had that and unless they went to therapy they wouldn’t even know how to handle it. It’s a lot easier to get used to a belly full of good food and creature comforts tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:05 AM
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If they’re hurting them then they’re missing half the equation. They’re good providers but they’re not good protectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:29 PM
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That’s what he said so that’s what my takeaway was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:24 PM
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Clearly you haven't going by yet hill you either ti due in, so to speak. I’m not sure what this mean? Going by yet hill? Or, you viewed with a confirmation bias lens with is also possible. No I viewed it for what it was and took his words for face value. And in this instance we shall continue to laugh at viewers of those sites. Congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:08 PM
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I’ve watched the show and seen the inconsistency, which is why I maintain my stance. If that’s what you want to do that’s your business. Men have been laughing at women from those sites, just as the women from there have been laughing at men. The world keeps spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:26 AM
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I’d think it’s better to adopt but I wouldn’t really judge them any differently than I do women. As long as they do their best for their child and are doing it because they want a child and not for other weird reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 03:47 AM
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Ok my apologies then I thought you meant me specifically. He also explicitly stated that men do not handle the truth about themselves well. So it seems he just says whatever suits his current brand. I have seen Reddit and Twitter. I’m not pretending women are wonderful I’m just also not scandalized by it. The womens comments in his death are the same as they are in life. You can be shocked and appalled that they’re speaking ill of the dead. However nothing being said about him now is anything ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:33 PM
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Yep many want commitment and emotional investment from the woman’s end, just not to the point where she starts having expectations of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:28 PM
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Yeah, a handful. The numbers are actually still low and lower still when one controls for income and education. I’ll have to look into it but they seem to be going up over here. There’s a noticeable uptick in interracial couples. Of course it could also just be that affluent interracial couples prefer moving to the blue coastal states as well though. If by "code switch" you mean tolerate microagressions and racist bullshit then yeah you may be right. That "type of black girl" sounds like a self …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:27 PM
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It’s a direct response to this. A statement made presumably about me. Be honest with yourself basically, with respect to society. You don't have to listen to him. But if his views are triggering, you'd need to ask why. Unless you meant “you” in general and not “you” specifically? If so I apologize for misunderstanding but it seemed like you were saying I specifically was listening to him, triggered by it and needed to ask myself why. Which is why I said what I did. I watched his show and saw him…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:53 PM
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So then why say bm are less picky? They’re not unless they’re poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:49 PM
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Again no, educated middle class people tend to marry other educated and middle class people and these people tend to be thin on average. And their races aren't different at all. Are you seriously implying that educated middle class white people don't largely (hell, almost exclusively) date other middle class white people. Same with asians who, if not, will end up dating other white people. In the northeast you’ll see a lot of them married to Asians or Indians now and I’ve seen a handful of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:17 PM
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LOL black men are probably the least discriminatory when it comes to shit like this. White and Asian men are way more demanding when it comes to shit like that. The poor ones are because they often have no options or they’re in a pseudo to straight up sugar baby/sugar mama relationship with the women. When they come up financially though they start dating their real type and it’s what I said above. Yeeeeah, fetishes have never been much of a foundation upon which to build a healthy, long term re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:31 PM
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I agree with most of what you said, except this bit. And, even then, I kinda half agree with it. I dont think what desirable men want is all that different. Hence why if you tend to venture to any store frequented by the comfortably middle class, you'll notice the women follow a sort of identikit formula to their physical appearance. I think the only thing is that high income, outside of say entertainment and certain entrepreneurship, is almost exclusively the preserve of the educated profession…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:30 PM
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I never listened to any of his advice as my own plans for my life and advice from trusted women in my life worked better for me to get what I wanted anyway. and he didn’t trigger me. The bw calling in to his show gave me second hand embarrassment but that’s about it. If you watch his video about how he went viral/the reason for his switch up he clearly says in the beginning that men don’t like hearing the truth about himself. He went viral because men enjoyed him going at women more than they en…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:24 PM
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No women have no power to actually punish incels unless they do something to them. Social shaming only works when you get enough people to morally agree and/or the reward of going along with the social shaming outweighs the risk/downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:19 PM
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I wouldn’t say they’re stupid. Some people just value romantic relationships less than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:10 PM
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For the most part women don’t really make a big deal over other women being virgins one way or the other. When I was still a virgin the only comments about it I got were from men. One of my best friends is still a virgin and no one in our friend group shames her for it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:50 PM
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That depends on whether he pays most of the bills or not. If she’s contributing the same amount of money to the bills it doesn’t make sense for her to do more chores than him as they’re both equally contributing the the financing of the home. Also some people don’t care about equality, many care about equity and many don’t care about either. So what’s to stop women from just going after men who make more than them and who also want to help with housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:34 PM
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Fantasizing about something doesn’t bring nearly as much stress as being in a poor quality relationship. So I guess you’re right on that despite your sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:28 PM
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He didn’t assume, he clearly asked these women what they want etc. yeah you may have a small percentage of these men with fetishes, but majority? They’re not fetishes that’s their type lol. The women didn’t give that much detail into what type of man they wanted. A man who likes bbw, men who have kids and are older and divorced, men who like being dominated etc can also overlap into the category of men who have money(tall all characteristics they wanted as well) which is my point. Most of them d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:27 PM
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So since they’re already stressed they should add more?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:14 PM
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Lmao I was in a good mood this weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:13 PM
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What men were saying that? A few on this very sub. I’ll edit in the posts about it that are still up to this reply. So if you don’t see it right away check back later. Those dudes are really really desperate and lonely. That’s not normal and definitely not something I’d encourage in anyone. The guys saying that aren’t truly happy to forgo any chance of real intimacy with another human, for a lifetime of silicone and artificial degeneracy. In my opinion we shouldn’t just accept the idea of “well …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:13 PM
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Men were saying they were excited for the sex bots to come so they didn’t have to deal with real women, so I don’t understand why bringing up the fact that they’re here and a viable option for those who can’t attract partners is now an issue? I view sex and masturbation that way because there’s nothing that I get out of sex that I don’t also get from masturbating. Masturbating is more of a guaranteed orgasm. Maybe the cuddling and the closeness but you can honestly pay people for that too. Profe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:22 PM
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If that’s what you want to do that’s your business. Working at Starbucks as a single person with no kids isn’t the worst gig. They pay $15+/hr and give good benefits like health care and education help. Yeah many learned the importance of having good quality friends and/or good relationships with family. If you pool your money and resources together you can get through hard financial times without the situation being as volatile as a romantic relationship. As well as having multiple marketable s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:09 AM
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Plenty of women are going that route. Being single and childfree is cheaper than dating and having kids. You just have to support yourself. Whereas when you get with a man and have kids now you have to account for all the extra associated costs and even if he works too there’s still more expenses than if you just stayed single and child free. Modern dating is not prostitution, it’s just full of pragmatism. The negative consequences of picking the wrong partner will set you back much more heavily…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:57 AM
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I definitely do. If it was me as a woman I’d be cool just not having sex ever again. I’d just masturbate every once in a while and be ok. For men who want sex more often though, there’s sex dolls, sex bots, porn and sex workers. I’ve examined how I think about sex and I don’t crave it nearly as much as most people. I could be fine never having sex again and still live a perfectly happy life. However that doesn’t take away from my understanding that other people crave sex more, for people like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:55 AM
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Fair enough! Thanks for your response(:
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:40 AM
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It’s easy for me to say because I’ve had things I’ve wanted that were unobtainable to me. You just accept reality, grieve if you need to then refocus your energy. Dating wouldn’t be any different for me and honestly I had that conversation with myself because I knew my standards were limiting and if I hadn’t found someone I would’ve been ok with that. The biological urge to partner and procreate can be sublimated with porn, sex bots, AI girlfriends, sex workers etc. There’s options. You don’t ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:39 AM
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Depends on what you consider good. If it’s just the bare minimum of staying loyal for the duration of the relationship and treating their partner at least semi-decently then sure. However the partner that’s less/not attracted won’t ever return their partners feelings to the same degree. They may end up feeling unsatisfied in the relationship and if this seeps out it will cause bitterness and resentment in both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:34 AM
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Nope, but that doesn’t mean they have to have kids and enter lifelong commitments with men who are poor and will stress them out. Being single is better than that. You can choose to have flings or stay celibate. You’re just avoiding the stress of fully tying yourself down with another person when the risks outweigh the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:26 AM
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So how are you going to punish those men and get other men on board? If it’s not legally enforced what’s to stop people from just saying f it I’m out and then doing what they want again?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:22 AM
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No. This is a completely disingenuous reclassification. No one calls anyone a 'fat ugly bitch' here - changing the words this much shows that this is a deliberate attempt to disqualify my example. It’s disingenuous because it allegedly doesn’t happen on ppd but your example from hinge(which is not ppd) is totally valid? Lol. The example that I provide is very close to what OP is talking about. As was mine and they’re both examples based on people having bad reactions to rejection. So either they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:21 AM
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So essentially you’re just going to guess and punish random suspected men? Will appeals be banned because I don’t see it working out otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:51 AM
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There was no online dating in the 1950s, less exposure to different relationship dynamics, lives of people in other countries were much more mystified, the purchasing power of the average consumer was greater than now, a lot of countries labor was domestic vs being exported to cheaper countries with more lax labor laws etc. The social and economic conditions that allowed your plan to work in the 1950s are no longer present today. So just eroding birth control and women’s rights aren’t going to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:13 AM
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You can upload audio and video to dating apps like hinge already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:00 AM
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Banning birth control would make women pickier since the consequences of sleeping with men would be even worse. Even if you banned them from education and high salaries it would only impact the women with horrible family circumstances. The rest would stay home with their parents even longer, be pickier about men they have sex with because the consequences or doing so are less avoidable and you’d probably see more acceptance or at least tolerance of high earning men having harems legally or other…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:59 AM
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Unless you’re going to punish men for meeting women irl too it’s not going to work. Plus people can just lie. How do you know where they met unless they tell you or you investigate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:56 AM
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There’s always going to be single people either because they never got married or they got divorced. The way around that is always having multiple groups of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:50 AM
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In small doses maybe. You can significantly reduce stress depending on how your life is set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:49 AM
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The material conditions aren’t changing any time soon, so now what? You’d either have to do some mass scale social engineering to flip the roles of who is desirable and who is not. Which will take a very long time and the men who currently are deemed undesirable wouldn’t be able to enjoy the benefits of that if it even worked. Or force people to date them which will not go over either as that’s currently illegal, would cause a moral dilemma and even if you made it legal you’d start a humanitaria…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:48 AM
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We know those sort of things are happening due to the halo effect and how heavily height correlates with income and employment. I know and that’s where peoples energy needs to be focused not dating. You are based on your avatar a black woman, but you think being judged for outward appearance is okay and acceptable? I don't even know where to begin with that. I’m just realistic I know people are going to judge anyway. That’s their business, as long as they keep their biases in check when hiring, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:44 AM
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Telling someone they’ll die alone if they don’t do xyz is what then? Which as a scare tactic doesn’t make any sense as most husbands die before their wives anyway. The true determining factor in whether or not a woman dies alone is the quality of her relationships with children, friends and family. It wouldn’t be a flat out lie at all if you check statistics look at the brookings report. Most bw marry hypogamously. Meaning the bm they’re choosing to marry make less than them so a poor man could …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:36 AM
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You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. I’m not contesting the fact that it’s being celebrated. I’m raising the point that the celebration is a symptom of the obesity problem not the cause. Americans were already getting fat because of what I described above and then since there were so many fat people they started the body positivity/fat acceptance movement. Michelle Obama did that while she was First Lady and it didn’t go over well. She had people dramatically accusing her of child abuse and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:33 AM
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That’s what the point of telling them to make friends and find hobbies they enjoy is but if they’re against that nothing can be done for them. Sex bots are here, AI partners are here. There’s porn, some western countries sex work is legal. So there’s outlets to distract from the absence of them having a partner but if they don’t actually have one and choose to stay hung up on that there’s nothing you can do for them ethically and legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:25 AM
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In this economy yes. You’ll be stressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:23 AM
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Nope people get judged for everything. The only places it really matters is if they’re systematically discriminating against you. So for jobs, educational opportunities, providing medical care. In cases where that’s happening something should be done about it. For dating that’s a matter of personal preference, you can learn to work with the hand you’re dealt or be mad at the people that brought you into this world. Getting mad at people for not dating short people isn’t going to change their pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:22 AM
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The example you gave falls more in line with calling a woman a “fat ugly bitch” because she rejects someone. That’s people being immature because they can’t handle rejection. That’s not what op is talking about. What’s he’s referring to is men communicating their needs and getting told they’re not “entitled” to sex or that women don’t have to have sex with men they don’t want to. The issue he’s raising is that he thinks women just assume men are only looking for sex and then using that as a basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:20 AM
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Yes take it up with your parents for having you and not preparing you and other family members that had a hand in raising you. Unless the mother or father was raped and forced into having children then it’s completely within their control. They chose to have kids and they chose how to raise their kids. So how exactly is that blaming “innocent people”? That’s putting the blame where it lies on those who willingly birthed you into the situation you hate so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:16 AM
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That’s the minority. Majority of the time when you see those comments you look up and see the post is about sex in some capacity. That tells you the trend. Once again you keep bringing up where you think the onus for mens views lie and I keep telling you that’s not what I’m talking about. We’re not having the same conversation lol. If you want to have a separate conversation about why some men only look for sex and whether or not women offer more than sex just be honest about it. I’ll be honest …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:43 PM
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I thought of those exceptions because I used to think how he did about dating high value men. Until I got into those circles myself and saw women in my own life who’d he deem as having undesirable traits do the “impossible”. I started noticing certain patterns as well. Women with kids can remarry “high value” men. However the men they marry 9/10 are at least 5 years older than them, have kids of their own and maybe a divorce under their belt. That’s why I thought of the exceptions. If you’re tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:40 PM
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If you take a look into those womens personal lives and dealings with I’d bet most of them have done some dysfunctional masochistic things in order to keep a man around. The only reason they failed at it is because you can’t “keep” a man, he’s not a dog he’ll go where he wants to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:22 PM
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I know he’s talking about obese women. He said it himself the women are so fat they’re built like “linebackers”. People(Americans anyway) aren’t fat because of it being celebrated. The celebration of obesity is a symptom not a cause. They’re fat because of the food and work culture. Most of it is unhealthy, overly processed and packed with hormones that are not conducive to losing weight or maintaining a healthy one. It’s full of so much processed fat and sugar to make people get addicted to it …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:20 PM
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The thing is though you’d be surprised what men are into. Have you ever heard of a feeder fetish? I didn’t know about it at first but there’s men with money to blow who are into big women because that kind of thing gets them off. Kevin was laying the base for how to get a specific type of man. High earning childfree bm who like submissive petite to submissive slim thick sexually conservative women. He assumed every woman who called in on his show wanted that type of man specifically because in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:11 PM
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The “village” being your family(extended and immediate) not everyone in your country. It’s clearly not victim blaming as I put the onus on your parents not you. I also correctly stated that your anger should be directed towards them and whatever other family had a hand in raising you and not “society”. If your parents chose to have you knowing there was a risk you’d suffer this much over your looks that’s not blaming innocent people. That’s blaming the people who directly caused your situation. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:04 PM
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Your parents passing on their bad genes to you or failing to ensure you’re socially well adjusted isn’t a societal failure. It’s unfortunate that, that’s your situation but you don’t get to externalize it to others who had no hand in your creation or raising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:48 PM
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I didn’t say anything was right or wrong with it. Just that he’s advocating for men to not deal with overweight women in any capacity as one way to deal with the obesity problem among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:46 PM
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No I’m not following those either. Tbh I didn’t realize you were the same person until you said something then I went back and checked. Agree to disagree then. Bw I’ve noticed seem to do the most to be around and have a man and not in a healthy way. They’ll accept any kind of treatment towards them and their children just to say they “have a man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:46 PM
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I know what I need and found it already. My fiancé makes good money and may make much more than me in the future. Plus we’re both frugal where it counts. Every single woman wants them because of the risk reward of having kids and a relationship and because of how expensive it is to live in most parts of western countries and it’s only getting worse as cost of living and cost of having and raising children is going up as well. That’s not even including costs for little indulgences like traveling,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:44 PM
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So you don’t get killed by someone acting in self defense or imprisoned. If you’re fine with those consequences do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:35 PM
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They do that because in exchange he is the woman’s job. They’ll say it themselves. They want the woman to be well watered and stress free so she has time to cater to him and look good for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:34 PM
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What was the other thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:33 PM
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They expect men to pay because it’s fun for them and they like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:32 PM
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Cause they were always talking about him among other things and him dying as young as he did was like pouring oil on a grease fire. It’s pretty crazy. It made people want to talk about him even more. Good, bad and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:13 PM
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No I barely follow anyone on here, you can check if you’d like. Some bw are gluttons for punishment at the hands of men in the community. These days it’s called “m*mmying” and it’s truly a mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:11 PM
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https://youtu.be/3w3oDTkxZ5s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:10 PM
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I don’t make 50-60k a year I make more than that. Unless you mean “you” in the general. You’re screwed and doomed because you’ll be stressed for the rest of your life. Cost of everything is going up. Buying and maintaining a comfortable lifestyle or better on that salary is becoming increasingly more difficult as time goes on. If you want to have kids too, then you either have to give that up or accept that you’ll be living with even more unnecessary stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:08 PM
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They’re probably not in the demographic of people that pay attention to Kevin. It was mostly(not all) people of my racial demographic that were watching and commenting about him. People outside of that weren’t giving him that much energy and most didn’t even know who he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:06 PM
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And didn’t gain any traction so he switched to bashing women more because that’s what people wanted to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:05 PM
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All of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:04 PM
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So basically you’re screwed and doomed to be miserable no matter what so accept it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:03 PM
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Friends can’t replace a romantic relationship. If you don’t have an intimate relationship with them. However they can stave off the loneliness and sting of being single. It’s like if you have chronic back problems with no hope of it being surgically or medically corrected. The best that can be done is to give you pain killers. Is your back fixed? No, but it won’t hurt as much at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:02 PM
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They can’t force anyone to date and sleep with you ethically or legally. The best they can do is tell you to jack off, buy a sex bot and make some friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:01 PM
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There’s people that *never had romantic relationships with their co-parent choosing co-parenting because they want kids but not a steady partner so you’ll see a lot of different types of families in the future. They’ll each figure out ways to get the most success out of their dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:58 PM
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Let me break it down for you since you seem to be confused. I don’t care whether women make empathetic comments or not on this sub. My point is that it makes no sense to say something like that in response to a man complaining about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:57 PM
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Here’s a couple: https://www.businessinsider.com/why-men-are-more-romantic-than-women-2015-6?amp https://www.scienceofpeople.com/soulmate/ I think it’s because women expect men to know when to turn the sexualizing on an off. It’s debatable how realistic it is to expect that, but that’s the idea. “Sexualize me when I want to be sexualized and leave me alone when I don’t”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:56 PM
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Statistics also show that’s it’s better to be financially stable before having kids yet people don’t follow that rule either and consider it “shallow” when you factor that into having a partner. It’s also better when both partners are under 40 when having children yet that rule isn’t followed either. Even if you don’t have your kids in the most ideal situation there’s ways to ensure they still flourish as long as you prioritize their mental health and are a loving supporting parent and have a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:44 PM
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Ppd women: maybe one day you’ll find someone to love you lol I never see ppd women make reply like this lmao. Don't ever act like you girls are good people, fuckers. The replies from you girls are never that wholesome, its always you guys have bad personality bla bla you guys only want sex bla bla bla lmao. Fuck off If you read the whole comment you would have come to any of these conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:45 PM
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I know Jasmine doesn’t cuddle after idk about Ashley. Some people seem to be able to pull off having sex without getting emotionally invested. I agree though that it is unfair to expect that of other people because it seems only a minority of people are able to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:44 PM
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Right, but all this info comes from your female friends that were involved in this situation, right? So who is to say they're telling the whole truth? The messages provide evidence that they’re telling the truth. Some of the information comes from the men themselves as well in two of the cases I knew the men as well. I heard them say repeatedly before they even got involved with my friends that they don’t want relationships for xyz reasons. Then after the hookups one came and asked me what’s wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:12 PM
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I know, I’m just bringing it up to show men do in fact care more about looks than personality. Just like they come to that conclusion when it’s women doing it, the same can be applied to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:41 AM
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Men are looking for a woman worth committing to. Men are looking for someone they can love, and who is going to love them. We will test out any women we can to see if they fit this role, and if it turns out that they aren't that woman, like say, she's a selfish bitch, or she seems like the cheating ho type, then she is simply relegated to "well, I'll keep fuckin' her" status. Because why not? Who knows, maybe she'll change her ways one day, but until then, might as well keep her around, as long …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:40 AM
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They do. As a growing number of people separate having kids with someone from having a life long romantic bond with them. They know and acknowledge that they’ll have a lifelong familial bond because of the kids. However they don’t think it means they have to be “tied down” in the same sense that you would in a marriage where you’re committed to being emotionally invested, romantically involved with that person and presumably monogamous. You can shirk all that whether you have kids or not and sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:36 AM
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Nope. I’m trying to prove my point that the responses are appropriate to the context of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:34 AM
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I’ll check them out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:33 AM
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Except that on this site women mostly mention those things when the topic is about sex. Just type sex into the ppd search bar. You’ll see swathes of posts of men complaining about sex in some manner than dozens of women replying saying men aren’t entitled to sex blah blah blah. Ignoring that reality doesn’t bolster your point. As for the rest of what you said, you’re just reaffirming my origins conclusion. You’re admitting that there’s men that are just looking for sex but simply putting the onu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:33 AM
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All great points! What would need to happen is that both gender accept that there’s more nuance to people and showcase that. I have heard that men are actually the more romantic gender because they’re more likely to believe in soul mates and love at first sight than women are. I was trying to find the original research paper last night but all that’s coming up are articles talking about it. So not the most credible sources. I can still post those though if you want to read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:30 AM
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I’m sure that’s the case in your opinion. For women who’ve come to a similar about a men as rp men have come to about women the exact opposite is true. Either way personally I don’t care as it has nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:44 PM
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Yeah they want a woman who wants sex on their terms. So someone who wants non-committal/non exclusive sex but who also validates them and give at least a crumb of a crap about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:38 PM
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Women would have to care in order for that to happen. Plenty of them are becoming disillusioned with men, marriage and romantic relationships themselves. So why would they put time and effort into changing things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:36 PM
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Because it is. You’re having an entirely different discussion. You want to discuss where the onus for some men valuing only sex lies. What I’m discussing is the fact that that opinion does genuinely exist and so the responses to it outlined in op are similar. We’re not discussing the same thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:34 PM
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Sure that’s it and not the dozens of men who openly admit youth and beauty are what have the most weight for them. Plus women see how men treat different women based on looks alone. Before a woman even showcases anything about her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:17 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:15 PM
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It’s not me pushing the argument it’s reality. Type “sex” into the ppd search bar and see what comes up and the replies to those posts. The example you gave doesn’t bolster your point anyway. Unless you were exclusively talking about non-physical attraction. Otherwise the reason you got the response is because women know that when they factor in physical attraction it’s because they want to sexually desire their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:15 PM
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The content is not geared towards relationships and I already explained why above and gave an example. Your response was then to tell me that those are just the views of the content creator as if he’s not involved in the creation and production of the content lol. So at this point we’re going in circles and aren’t going to agree. I don’t know who Donovan sharpe is and Rollo Tomassi advocated for other men to not get married so that’s not bolstering your point. The men only want sex thing is pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:12 PM
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It is completely true. Especially on this sub. Post after post about how sex is unfairly disturbed, how x amount of men are sexless, how sexlessness hurts men, how hard it is for men to get sex etc. It’s sex, sex, sex. So it’s beyond men why anyone is surprised that’s womens replies to these posts center sex as well like what else are they supposed to say? Ppd man: 80% of sex is going to the top 20% of men Ppd women: maybe one day you’ll find someone to love you That doesn’t even sound right. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:10 PM
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Nah skimming it only one thing really directly what I said. So I read and responded to that part. The rest seemed like you rambling about your dating experiences which has nothing to do with men coming alone and saying of their own volition that they only want sex. So unless your assertion is that those men are lying about what they want refer back to my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:07 PM
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Personally I wouldn’t. That’s too much work for no benefits when I could get the same thing by masturbating. I know women who are like that though and the men they sleep with seldom like it. The men don’t want relationships and exclusivity but they also don’t want a woman that only cares about her sexual pleasure and who just leaves and doesn’t really speak to or check up on them except to get her sexual satisfaction. They all seem to prefer when the woman cares about their pleasure too and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:02 PM
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Is he not part of fresh and fit? Or what? Your point? There’s men that sleep with animals and carcasses. Some people are stupid/mentally unwell. So rp men take that and are put off by relationships. You’re bolstering my point. Those men don’t want relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:59 PM
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You can know the general topic by skimming without taking in the full fleshed out opinion that you would get by actually reading it fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:57 PM
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If men changed the narrative and said they want love and companionship the conversation around male loneliness would be very different. I’m not going to sit here and say most women would sympathize with them, but I can say that they’d get more sympathy from women than they are now. Even the ones that aren’t sympathetic would still probably have a more nuanced discussion with them vs just shutting them down as entitled sex starved horn dogs. I doubt we’ll see that happen any time soon though beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:56 PM
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I know I’m not lying because when you listen to their “relationship advice” for men and women you realize they’re not trying to have a relationship for real. F&F for example. How is saying women’s orgasms are irrelevant/useless conducive to having a healthy relationship where both parties are happy? Most Rp men are looking for consistent sex and maybe a vessel to have kids if they want kids. The fact that they consider relationships rp on “hard mode” and say “she’s not yours it’s just your turn”…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:51 PM
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Women aren’t only listening to those men. Those types of men make post after post here and the women give them contextually appropriate responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:48 PM
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Skimming isn’t actually reading. Unless you consider it so then negate the tldr
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:44 PM
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TLDR. I have no dog in this fight personally. I found someone already. My only point is that if you come online complaining about not being able to get sex only then the responses you get will also be about sex only because that if the nature of your complaint. Nothing else you said has any connection to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:00 PM
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Yes then you’ll get a different response or one along the same vein but that at least inclusive of those other things and not just sex. If you only bring up sex, the responses you get will do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:54 PM
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Yes then men respond saying they’re not walking wallets for women, men aren’t women’s servants etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:49 PM
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Except women didn’t create it and it’s not a boogeyman. There are men that straight up say that’s all they want from women. Should women assume they’re lying? If a man comes online complaining about sexual frustration and his lack of sex should women just assume he doesn’t actually mean sex and he’s talking about a whole host of other things? That’s illogical. I grew up watching rp content and have rp men in my family. Most of them are not trying to find happy healthy relationships. They’re look…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:44 PM
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Log out of real life? If you have to go to the grocery store, doctors appointments etc you can’t just “log off” and avoid men who’ll hit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:08 PM
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None of this negates anything I said. The assertion here is that womens responses are inappropriate because they’re reducing the man down to wanting nothing but sex. My point is that their responses are totally appropriate. It makes sense to comment on sex when that is the context of the conversation you’re having with a man complaining about his lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:07 PM
2

What if she’s a girly girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:42 PM
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Desperate men have a neutral to negative effect on women. The only exception being women who want to take advantage of them which can be a dangerous game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:41 PM
1

Kodokushi?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:27 PM
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You don’t have to use dating apps to have men pester you for sex. Even just having a regular social media will get that result. Heck, even if you don’t even use social media you’ll still be hit on if you’re decent looking, live in a city and go outside during peak hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:27 PM
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Women respond that way because oftentimes the man is complaining about not being able to get sex. They claim women don’t offer anything else or that they can get what women offer from their friends. They’ll straight up say they are sexually frustrated and complain about the unequal distribution of sex. So it’s no surprise they’re getting those kinds of responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:24 PM
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Just so we’re on the same page because I suspect we’re not I’m talking just about physical characteristics here. So cases where a woman knows she is or is not sexually attracted to a man. Going based off the other commenters experience it makes no sense to me why men want women to give chances to men they know they are not sexually attracted to. It just leaves both sides unsatisfied in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:22 PM
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Meant to say extremely nervous sorry my bad I’ll fix it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:18 PM
0

They’ll say men are too aggressive, mean or uncaring instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:14 AM
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People don’t chastise them because most picky women either get what they want or they’re content being alone. The ones who incessantly complain are ridiculed and told to lower their standards just like men. There’s a whole subreddit dedicated to making fun of women like that. The reason there seems to be a disparity is because more often than not picky women end up getting what they want and not having complaints. Whereas picky men don’t get what they want and then complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:07 AM
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You realize you can just choose not to accept it right? No one has to change their standards and desires for you but if you don’t like what they’re putting out just walk away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:05 AM
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There’s plenty of people who are eschewing it because they don’t want to be married. They’ll straight up tell you themselves they don’t want to be “tied down” like that. Even if they do want to be “tied down” temporarily they want to be able to leave with ease. So they avoid marriage. It’s a lot easier to dump a boyfriend or girlfriend once you lose feelings than it is to divorce a husband or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:00 AM
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No problem and yeah the halo effect is real. If people find you attractive and pleasant to speak to, they’ll always make exceptions for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:59 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:57 AM
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This is why I don’t understand why men want women to change/lower their standards and give more men a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:30 PM
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Not at all. If the point of old is convenience why put in extra work when you don’t have to? If she met every guy off there to vet him in person to see if he’s really worth the match or not she’d never get anything done. Which is why most women just go based on the best profiles and then vet those guys and then narrow it down. It’s volume control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:24 PM
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Oh ok ok. Not really people have said that but imo I’m pretty average looking. I just keep fit and know how to style myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:21 PM
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No online she’s not pretending she’s really not talking to anyone. The point of Old is convenience. You can be lazy and find someone from the convenience of wherever you are without having to do anything. In irl dating if the guy comes to you it’s similarly convenient because she doesn’t have to do anything. It’s just beneficial for the guy because a factor or two that could help him irl or that hindered him online will change if he approaches in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:15 PM
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Right? That’s basically signing up for a miserable life. Who wants that? Man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:12 PM
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Duh what woman wants to waste her life suffering with a man that will forever treat her like crap and derail their life. That’s stressful and ages you prematurely. Your life will be miserable with a man that never wants to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:12 PM
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Most of them aren’t. What I’ve noticed it’s two type of guys that do this. 1) socially awkward/extremely nervous men that are uncomfortable with silent pauses. 2) Egocentric men Both those types of men are the minority though and most men will ask the woman questions about herself on the date and talk about other things besides themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:04 PM
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Because that’s the point of old you’re judging quick based on a photo and maybe their bio too depending on the app you’re using. Whereas in person you have a few more things you’re being judged on and that can be used to your advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:03 PM
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The fact that she likes those things and puts weight in them. If you have those going for you, you can showcase them irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:25 PM
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I’m 24 from Jamaica but I grew up in the north east coast and have traveled a little bit stateside and otherwise. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:11 PM
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NTBR but I don’t trust men calling men others simps it doesn’t meant anything. Also calling him that doesn’t change the fact that he used to view women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:09 PM
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They can be successful if they treat women kindly. Maybe 9/10 women will reject them but whether that 1/10 stays or rejects him too is going to depend on whether or not he treats her like shit and makes her feel bad being around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:50 PM
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People only treat kindness as weakness if you don’t know how to express and enforce your boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:49 PM
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Maybe you don’t but a commenter below you admitted it was true for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:43 PM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:35 PM
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I don’t even think they’ve thought that far. The mentality is more so “somebody is going to say yes and fuck me, so I’m going to keep trying until I find those women.” So they just keep asking out as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:34 PM
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If he’s approaching her or they’re in the same social circle and talk she ends up acknowledging his existence by default. If a man walks up to even if you don’t want to go out with him it’s not like an app where you can just immediately swipe him away. This is especially true if you’re in the same social circle. If you just shut him down before he even says a word you’ll be viewed as rude. If a man can use that short window to his advantage he can do better. Plus if you’re not photogenic, bad a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:31 PM
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It helps if you’re good looking because they’ll associate more positive traits to you. It’s like when a hot girl does some weird stuff and it’s viewed as quirky but if an ugly girl does it it’s viewed as weird. Of if a woman is annoying how long a man will put up with that depends on how pretty she is. It’s the same for men in womens eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:26 PM
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Oh the type of men I’m talking about will hit on a 1000 women a year give or take. Everywhere they go if there’s a woman under 40 they’ve flirted with her and tried to get her contact information. They’ve racked up high n counts after doing this for several years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:24 PM
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1000 in a lifetime or a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:03 PM
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They weren’t married though. Probably because they knew marriage isn’t all fun and games. People who are anti-marriage usually are that way because they don’t like the consequences of failing in that arena. So they stay unmarried so they can leave easier if things get rough. Olivia and Jason were well aware of this as well. So things are probably going as intended if one of them lost feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:03 PM
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Those numbers wouldn’t go down if they’re conventionally attractive due to the halo effect. Beautiful people get more leniency than average looking people. Women would be more receptive to an an man approaching and more willing to hear him out than they would an average man so that advantage is another reason why their numbers are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:01 PM
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If you don’t care about friends and the like you’re going to struggle even if you somehow manage to get a relationship. If your partner isn’t asocial and wants to hang out with her friends and family and take you along how will you navigate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:58 PM
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I think it’s because of the stats on sexlessness. It shows that the majority of men are having sex. You can argue that the sex isn’t equally distributed and that some men are getting a new partner every week while other men struggle to get even 1-2 a year but they’re still having sex. So that’s why the idea that most men are getting absolutely nothing is unfathomable to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:56 PM
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It’s definitely higher than that. Attractive men have women coming to them so that helps boost their numbers. Unless they don’t know how to read flirting from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:53 PM
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From men who’ve done it. If you want names the only ones I can give you without doxxing my social circle are the guys from the gauntlet on clubhouse. The numbers they gave about this are similar to what I’ve seen of men irl. For average men if they ask out 10 girls maybe 2-3 will agree to give a number or social media but then only one will actually produce something viable the other 2 wouldn’t want a second date or they would ghost/flake before you even got to set up a first. So if 1 of every 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:52 PM
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The problem with in person approach isn’t necessarily ROI. Average men can actually do better offline than on an app because they get to showcase more of themselves that just a picture that may or may not be good and a short bio. Old is so popular because it’s convenient and it reduces the sting of rejection. It’s less hurtful to have someone now swipe on you or quietly unmatch that it is to be told no or shut down cruelly. Men that don’t have the confidence or who aren’t low inhibition enough t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:49 PM
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I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m asking. If it’s about women being in their own head then the orgasm rate would be pretty similar for lesbians and straight women as they’re both women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:42 PM
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It’s more selfish to have your kids take front row seat to a loveless, unhealthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:41 PM
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I’ve seen it, mostly with men from my specific demographic. In America I’ve only seen it with the more conservative religious types that seem high strung. Liberal men and men that fall in between tend to try and find an all in one women. At least from what I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:29 AM
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Yes a 10% success rate that seems to be about what it is for average men and for attractive/very attractive men it’s 30-50%+. For unattractive men it seems to be even less than 5% for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:26 AM
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Nah if he hits on 1000 women he’ll get 100 and they’ll be a mix of land whales, butter faces, and average looking to hot women with low self esteem or mental health problems. Then depending on how he plays his cards he’ll get 1 or 2 mentally sound women that he’s attracted to. It’s still a lot of casual sex though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:09 AM
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The “receipts” they show are conversations and pictures of the hottest women they’ve slept with to side your view and make you think all their lays are about that level. 2 is true but all you can is work with what you have or figure out how to be your types type.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:07 AM
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La la la Elmo’s world~~
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:04 AM
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It’s still proving the point. They just left without filing even though they’re the ones that wanted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:00 AM
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You may not consider them successful once you know that they’re the no standards type but often they don’t lead with that. They’ll just say they banged x amount of women. Brag about the hottest ones they were able to score with and then from that others believe them. Sure there’s a difference between those men but if you’re not a hot guy who has women flocking to him and you want to have more sex the numbers game will work in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:51 AM
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I reply when I have time to be on here. I read what you said and I provided you a source that shows they’re paying 50% or more of the household expenses. You believe the term breadwinner to mean sole income earner but that’s not how it’s really used any more. Whether referring to men or women breadwinners are the ones that pay the bulk of the expenses. This change is because sole income households are not the majority anymore. Most American households need two incomes to stay afloat. However som…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:49 AM
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If it’s just to get hit on by any kind of guy anywhere outside in a major city during the weekend after 11am. If it’s to get hit on by specific type of guy I’d go by myself to an nice restaurant, expensive gym, roller skating, or a park in a nice neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:47 AM
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They’re doing that because they’re a cruel and mean person. They also tend to showcase that in everything they do. Not just rejecting strangers. So even still it’s not about an ego boost. They just have a bad personality and they remain true to that even when rejecting others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:42 AM
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Incomes and earnings will be much more valued. People may have less time to spend on dating if they’re spending more time working just to stay afloat. Things will really favor men with a good bit of disposable income but for women and the rest of men it will be relatively the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:40 AM
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Women do approach men already they’re just more subtle and picky about it than men. On the other hand though for some women the man approaching is part of the turn on for her so it’s difficult to find a workaround for those type of women. It’s better to just let people engage in whatever approach dynamic they prefer without shaming either one so all will feel comfortable to proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:39 AM
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You don’t have to be persistent with the same woman. They’re not saying to hit on a woman and keep trying. They’re saying to hit on like 100-1000+ women and you’ll get more saying yes just due to probability
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:36 AM
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I 100% agree. The men who get the most sex don’t always have the sexual holy trinity. They’re just men who hit on women consistently and relentlessly every chance they get. They’ll hit on all kinds of women too. They have little to no standards for what kind of women they’ll hit on. You’re also right that it’s a certain type of man that will do this. They usually have nothing to lose and even if they do they’re so low inhibition that they honestly just don’t care. To break it down. Let’s say an …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:35 AM
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Sorry to be replying back so late. The reason I think men have more options in terms of womens opinion on money is because more and more women are becoming the breadwinners in their family or splitting bills. This has been an upward trend going up with women’s participation in the work force and their wages. https://eccalifornian.com/women-are-increasingly-becoming-the-primary-breadwinners/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:29 AM
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You jump through hoops for both depending on your situation and what is “good” is also relative to your situation. I busted my ass to get even low wage jobs when I was young and broke because in my situation that was “good” as the alternative was having no money for my needs. Since I was poor my options were to accept being poor and not take on a job or hustle to get even crappy ones that paid $9-10/hr. Where I am now I wouldn’t even entertain the idea much less accept it because I’m financially…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:27 AM
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Expand? Not quite sure I get what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:23 AM
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It’s may or may not be natural to treat dating like a numbers game but that’s how things are now that there is significantly less hard and soft pressure to pick someone and the internet has created the illusion of more options. We can complain about the circumstances and yearn for a past time or we can work with what currently present and figure out the best way to navigate through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:23 AM
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So why do lesbians orgasm much more than straight women? They also orgasm plenty when they masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:21 AM
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https://www.anxiety.org/parent-child-separation-trauma-ptsd-and-recovery-in-children#how-to-help-separated-families-post-reunification Here you go my insistence that the kids may be fine(not will because that all depends on how they choose to handle the breakup and custody) is based on child psychologists. Statistically kids have the best chance when they’re raised by two financially stable, mentally healthy, married parents who were ready and willing to have them. However it doesn’t mean the si…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:20 AM
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Yet there’s average slubs getting their partners off everyday. It’s not a zero sum game. If you’re hot with money and status you’re in the best position to get a woman off and will attract more women but if you’re average looking you can still do it too. It’s just not as easy. It’s like how being 7ft gives you the best chances of getting into the NBA but that doesn’t mean it’s hopeless if you’re 6ft+ it’s just a bit harder
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:16 AM
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Here’s one: https://eccalifornian.com/women-are-increasingly-becoming-the-primary-breadwinners/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:14 AM
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Just like people with great connections can just benefit from nepotism and show up while people who don’t have to work to get a good job/income. That’s life. If you’re not at the top you can opt out all together or figure out how to make your particular situation work to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:06 PM
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You don’t need a cold indifference to see things as they are. You just have to be able to manage your emotions and not let them get the best of you. If you’re not getting what you want instead of being emotional and irrational and accepting what you don’t want out of sexual frustration, resentment, dejectedness etc. Learn to manage your emotions, be ok with your own company and figure out what the specific reason is that you can’t attract what you want. Then objectively look at the kind of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:05 PM
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The only solutions to this are either building up mental resiliency and/or radical acceptance. We don’t all draw the best hand in life but letting it depress you and demotivate you won’t change the situation. So you can either accept it and give up trying to improve and live contently in that fact. Or make the best of what you have and maximize the most out of your hand that you can. So instead of focusing so heavily on the fact that you received 95 no’s put more emphasis on the fact that you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:01 PM
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Whatever you want to believe. Still doesn’t change the fact that’s it’s illogical to put yourself in a situation you don’t like because you’re not getting what you do want quickly enough. Being single until you can attract what you want is a viable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:55 PM
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You don’t have to be “hot” to inspire an orgasm. Being average looking but good at sex or at least adept at what turns her on and gets her off will get the job done as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:54 PM
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Because this how a majority of women are. So if you leave you will likely end up back in the same spot or alone. Majority is not all. If you’re able to attract the women who aren’t like that you’ll find someone. I know you don't think that way and maybe some of your friends don't think that way. It doesn't really matter. Data clearly shows women marry men who make more then them and it will always be more valuable than anecdotal experiences. Data also shows about 30% of women are the breadwinner…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:53 PM
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I get hit on the most in big cities. It will happen several times in an outing. When I go to more rural areas it’s not as frequent and the men are no where near as aggressive about it. At worst they’ll ask why I said no or if I’m sure. In big cities though they’ll keep pushing and pushing, some will start trying to follow me, or they’ll start getting aggressive and run up on me etc. So I think it’s just a regional thing. Men in rural areas are much more polite about approaching, much more willin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:49 PM
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I don’t think they’re referring to comfort and resources they’re referring to orgasms. Straight women have the lowest orgasm rate out of any demographic. Your female partner will be more willing to sleep with you at a rate you’d like if she orgasms every time(nearly every time) vs if she barely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:44 PM
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So keep trying. You not immediately finding X doesn’t mean you should settle for Y when you know you genuinely do not like or want Y.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:39 PM
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It’s only “ok” if the man chooses to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:37 PM
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Ok so why not let the woman leave and find another one if a 50/50 woman is truly what you want? It doesn’t make sense to accept terms you don’t like then get mad about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:35 PM
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Mens equivalent is them saying they want “50/50 women.” In order for the women to split the bills/lifestyle costs down the middle she either needs to be in his tax bracket or be willing to continually make financially unwise decisions for the sake of her man’s happiness. So it goes both ways. It seems men are just out off by the fact that women are able to hold out longer to get their financial standards in a partner met than they are. For me personally I wouldn’t date lower earning men because …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:32 PM
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And that’s their business. Her leaving Jason isn’t “breaking” their home as it was never together in the first place. If they’re mature enough to get on the same page instead of coparenting and support their kids in the ways the kids need during this transition they will be fine. Whether that means honest and child friendly discussions about the changes, therapy etc. They already knew their dynamic upped the risks for their kids as marriage is still the best institution to raise them in. So now …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:26 PM
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Their home was “broken” from the start. Their parents weren’t married. I’m assuming so that a clean break could be made if either party wanted to dissolve the relationship. All they have to do is figure out a custody arrangement and remain amicable and they’ll be fine. Her kids probably won’t be that mad. People fall out of love everyday. Olivia and Jason seem to have known that was a very real possibility as they chose to never marry. As long as they maintain a healthy co-parenting dynamic and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:47 AM
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I haven’t. The argument I’m making is that they both have external stimuli.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:44 AM
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Yes, please add context/a definition to your previous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:43 AM
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It doesn’t happen to men to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:42 AM
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Re-read the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:35 PM
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Yeah I know they’ve both gone on record saying there was no cheating because their relationship is open. Doesn’t stop Twitter and social media mobs from assuming Jada cheated on Will. They also assume it was one person when both of them have had multiple flings. Yeah that red table talk thing is her way of maintaining relevancy. Otherwise what would she do? The typical rich socialite wife life of just working out, brunching and putting about doesn’t seem like it’d appeal to someone like Jada. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:35 PM
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Yeah fair point. It’s like Will and Jada they both cheated but we only know about Jadas affair partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:05 PM
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I’m not reaching at all. If those external influences were not present the cheating wouldn’t take place. For both men and women nothing “drives” them to cheat. Cheating is a personal choice. They can only be tempted. For women that temptation takes hold when they’re in an emotional state and for men it’s when there’s mutual attraction with an available and willing partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:05 PM
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The person you’re attracted to being willing and also attracted to you is external.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:40 PM
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Just checked it. Point 11 on their site of alludes to that. “FDS subreddit as one of the last female-only subs has been targeted by admins with unfairly applied rules with the intent to eventually ban the sub, incentivizing FDS to pre-emptively move the community. “ If I find out more I’ll lyk The rumor is that the “unfair treatment” they received from Reddit admins that could’ve led to their ban was over making their content more advertiser friendly. That being the reason is alleged though. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:06 PM
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Someone you’re attracted to being willing to cheat with you is an external stimulus. If that person is not present or the willing party is someone you don’t find attractive you won’t be tempted to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:02 PM
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It’s not just male attention. Your life in general shifts when you get older and the quality of your life overall decreases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:55 AM
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Because many are naive and when they like someone they project too much good into their behavior and assume the man they like isn’t trying to intentionally hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:54 AM
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Harry styles is not a bad not Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:53 AM
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Is there proof that she cheated or is it just speculative?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:52 AM
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Yeah he was just a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:51 AM
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She didn’t have a husband. She probably regretted playing house with Jason and is trying to turn back time and have fun now. I agree on the mid life crisis thing it’s a shame she cheated instead of just breaking up with him and going about her business.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:50 AM
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If you believe in the RP stuff you could say Olivia monkey branched up with Harry. Harry has a higher net worth, he’s younger and he’s hotter and arguably more famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:48 AM
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I’m just reading what others have said here which I why I put allegedly. I googled already and there’s no news sources on it yet and no official commentary from Reddit or FDS mods on what exactly happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:46 AM
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My point is that the beauty industry doesn't create the standards, we create the standards by purchasing their products. We are the ones responsible for it ultimately. They create the products by preying on peoples insecurities then they inflate the standard and create new insecurities via marketing and trends so they always have a steady consumer base. There is some feedback loop that happens because of an industry like that, but we are the root cause, not them. How so? Now that WE are changing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:45 AM
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They cheaters did highlight that given that’s the reasons they gave for their infidelity. I’m highlighting the fact that both needed external stimuli to cheat. A woman just being there isn’t enough for a guy to cheat. She has to also be willing and meet his standards of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:43 AM
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Because the external stimulus needed was different and the cheaters themselves highlighted that. For a woman it was emotional conditions needed to want to take the opportunity and for the man the external stimulus was presentation of a viable enough opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:24 PM
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From the divorces I’ve seen women are just more willing to pull the plug and shake things up when the marriage is miserable. A man will just suffer through it avoid his spouse and/or cheat while a woman will just end things. Same applies for gays and lesbians the married gay men I know would rather open up their relationship instead of divorcing whereas most lesbians I know would rather just end it and see new people monogamous vs having an open relationship. I think this is because of the way m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:22 PM
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They both can be read as being external stimulus though. If it wasn’t for a presented opportunity the man wouldn’t have cheated either. A willing partner he was attracted to was the necessary stimulus for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:09 PM
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None of that negates what I’ve said as even if you agree with TRM definition of hypergamy it doesn’t mean the person you are speaking with also does. So you’d still need to ask them what definition of hypergamy they are using to get context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:00 PM
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The reason often has nothing to do with their partner. The cheater is too cowardly to pull the plug or they want to have their cake and eat it too so they cheat instead of leaving
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:27 PM
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Not necessarily in both cases there was no care for the relationship. It shows both viewed their relationships as utilitarian just one was better able to compartmentalize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:26 PM
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The not communicating part maybe but it’s definitely not about needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:06 PM
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Opportunity is a reason. If the opportunity had not presented itself the cheating would not have occurred. That holds just as much weight as cheating due to unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:06 PM
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How so? It can also read as them being unable to emotionally regulate and so they bring outsiders in to do so for them via an affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:54 PM
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Why do you consider cheating due to unhappiness to be a better reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:53 PM
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There’s no unanimous agreement that that’s the right definition either. So it makes more sense to ask in the moment what hypergamy is being defined as.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:52 PM
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Cowardice and selfishness if you’re not married it’s extremely easy to break up and date other people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:51 PM
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The first part of my comment addresses both women who built their own wealth and women who were born into wealth. Neither are gold digging they’re practicing assortative mating to protect their wealth and lifestyles. I’ll expand further if a high earning woman dates a lower earning man she’ll have to bear the brunt of the financial costs or reduce her lifestyle to live within his means so they can do 50/50. She doesn’t have to do that for a man that earns the same as her. Plus if they want to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:40 PM
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I think they’re just bolstering your point by mentioning Asia as an additional example of your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:32 PM
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I’ve seen this as well but it’s not gold digging it’s assortative mating as they themselves also have wealth. They do it so they don’t risk losing their own wealth or lifestyle by marrying down and depending how/why they’re wealthy it’s also to form strong ties and expand their family businesses. Like when a woman from one notable wealthy family marries a man from another and they cross over into and invest in the businesses of their in laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:28 PM
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There was a lot of support and excuses for him especially from men who supported the black pill. To the point where he even inspired another killer:Alek Minassian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:24 PM
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It does give them what they want because allegedly they were instructed by Reddit to be more advertiser friendly. If that’s true then ultimately pressure from the platform is still why they left and the people who wanted them gone did get what they want. They’re gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:21 PM
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That may have been the ideal solution to you but plenty of people wanted them all gone and now that camp has what they wished for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:56 PM
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You can prove it by reading their manifestos an/or looking at content they made and where they posted. So I ask again: Had there been an r/Islam user that committed murder? Someone specifically that used their sub that has done so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:55 PM
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They’re doing it to men now. The reason it didn’t happen sooner is because in the past beauty was more important for women than for men. Mens viability as a partner was assessed based on different things. Now that that’s changing you see the beauty industry for men growing and expanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:02 AM
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What specific things about her N-count ick you out? Reflecting on that may provide you your answer. Ultimately though, you don’t have to accept it. You can break things off if you want and look for someone compatible with you who has an n-count in your preferred range.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:56 AM
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Because r/Islam doesn’t seem to harbor any negative posts about infidels the way FDS and some male subs harbor negative sentiments towards men and women respectively. Has there been an r/Islam user who killed people because their views were validated by the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:53 AM
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I’m reading what he’s saying. You’re clearly not reading what I’ve said as I’ve addressed all his points. The main focus here was in dating. If he wants to bring up separate points about the media that’s his business. If men feel it’s an issue in that realm they can take the same path as the women who felt the same. Make art and movements showcasing the variety of genitals for your sex to normalize the differences. Simply complaining about peoples preferences and shaming behavior will do nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:28 AM
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It’s not a bad idea it’s what a lot of Redditors wanted. They hated the fact that it was here while TRP was quarantined. So in a sense it’s good that it gives the people here what they were asking for. Whatever comes of that is yet to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:10 AM
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Nope I’m not going to stop acting like people have genital preferences/dislikes because that’s the truth. If you come across someone who doesn’t like what you’re working with go your separate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:57 AM
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If they’re both not enjoying a part of the sexual experience wouldn’t that equalize things between them? He can also just be celibate until he finds a woman who enjoys his size if oral/foreplay is that tedious and unenjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:59 PM
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Yeah that’d all be valid and those are things men complain about all the time among other things. Women who care about mens opinions on their vaginas take advantage of the currently available means of vaginal alterations. Those who don’t tell the guy complaining to F off and then find a better suited one. Men can adopt the same energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:57 PM
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There’s been a couple men I’ve dated who others considered ugly and I was aware they don’t fit conventional beauty standards for men. My focus in dating has always been on dating men who treat me great vs what they look like as mens looks don’t do anything for me anyway and they’ll fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:45 PM
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Men do not worship the ground women walk on. They just lust after them. Once they get what they want out of a woman though(sex) that’s when their true colors start to show and where womens complaints come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:30 PM
1

So why not stay single and play the field or get a sex bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:28 PM
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It is sound logic. If the chances of getting it were high you’d go for that rather than ask for a settlement because in that case there’d be more guarantee of alimony than a settlement. From what you’re saying it seems the reverse is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:27 PM
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Yeah it doesn’t seem like it will change any time soon until there’s a collective awakening. However the fact that it’s still so common for families in the community to tell kids to be careful around “aunty”/“uncle” so and so because they’re touchy vs just cutting those people off completely is insane to me. It’s sick. Hopefully the younger generations do better and don’t carry on the toxicity and abuse excusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:26 PM
1

Was this meant for me? I wasn’t questioning the validity of the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:23 PM
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The men are still financially better off than the women post divorce though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:23 PM
1

So then that means the chances of getting it are low if it’s better to ask for a settlement than stand before a judge and try to get alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:20 PM
2

Your lies in action sis (:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:13 PM
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Your lies seem to make you happy, enjoy sis!(:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:10 PM
2

Are you asking why they make general statements about men and women without considering outliers on both ends or. . .?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:58 PM
1

Nope your truth. Which is why you dodged the questions. All women are not divine. Most will just look into a suspicious situation. It’s not hard to do if the man is acting as you proposed and putting no effort into hiding the affair sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:50 PM
1

The questions were avoided. I added real life elements to the scenario because people are unpredictable and you have to account for that when sneaking about. Thinking you can cheat with no effort to hide it and get away is on you. Good luck. I don’t have “brothas”. Keep projecting though sis(:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:44 PM
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Makes sense that it varies per state. In mine you have the option to file a fault or no fault divorce. You would need evidence to prove whatever you’re claiming if you file for a fault divorce but if you had that and you had a prenup with an infidelity clause it would be upheld and impact alimony and asset division. I looked it up and alimony can be paid in a lump sum payment but this again may vary per state so you’d probably have to look it up for your state specifically. I know my parents got…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:42 PM
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They don’t come out ahead though. They end up poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:27 PM
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It’s because if you are going to have a children a partner with money and more wealth is more financially able to provide for said children. While you’re married he can still use his money to invest in the children’s well being even if post divorce you won’t get alimony and child support if you divorce him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:26 PM
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It’s 100% like that and why you’re avoiding answering the questions. You don’t want to admit that you have to account for the behavior of the other involved people in the situation. I added the extra stuff because those are real life variables. Sometimes people cheat and their affair partner doesn’t keep quiet or they do something to arouse suspicion in their partner and then they end up getting caught. If you don’t account for an mitigate these risks you’re not going to get away with cheating. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:20 PM
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Well, you can't. But just because 10% of women receive alimony, doesn't mean that is the number of women who are eligible for amilony. I'm sure the number of people eligible for alimony is much higher because, for example in my state, you only have to be married for 7 years to be eligible. And that's not a hard rule, that's just a rule of thumb. So some of the women who don't receive alimony, may have used their alimony as leverage. For example, instead of alimony, they may want rights to the go…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:15 PM
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Yep. Hosting and attending (:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:06 PM
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I am I know pedophilia/child sexual assault is rampant in the black community globally and it’s defended by saying the girls are “fast/fast-tailed” and the boys like it and are “becoming men.” Atp I don’t argue about it anymore because it’s so engrained. I just report it if I see some weird stuff going on with the kids and keep it pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:06 PM
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For both of them they already said there was no relation. One was another minor that was a few years older the other man it was an older coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:04 PM
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You rebuffed processes that required effort and are implying little to no effort is needed. So I stand by what I said about. I added extra variables because that’s real life. How do you ensure the affair partner stays quiet? How do you avoid arousing suspicion in your main partner? How do you deflect those suspicions enough for them not to look deeper etc? If cheating was that easy to get away with no one would get caught. The scenario you proposed would be harder to get away with cheating compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:02 PM
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You’d have to make one to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:57 PM
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So you think the two guys on this thread saying their enjoyed their experiences are just saying that as a coping mechanism/rationalization method?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:57 PM
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It’s both. Him being big is what makes her feel small and facilitates the arousal. If he’s small it doesn’t work. So both things are present.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:54 PM
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Nope. The answer isn’t there. It’s a direct question that facilitates a direct answer. Nothing to do with cupcake crumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:53 PM
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You claim men only get caught if they’re incompetent, yet simultaneously that they need to put little to no effort into covering up their affairs to get away with it and scoff at the idea that they need to account for the whims of the other involved parties in order to make sure their cover isn’t blown. Unless you’re an all seeing all knowing god that can control others at will. Good luck pulling that off. It’s not my truth because it’s nothing I’m directly involved in. They’re just objective th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:52 PM
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That doesn’t answer my q.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:45 PM
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I’m defo objective Ms mans are deitieesss. It’s not my truth because it’s nothing I’m directly involved in. They’re just objective things that happened that I observed. Keep projecting though sis!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:39 PM
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It’s an objective experience in relation to the man’s stature in comparison to her own. The height gap is either there or it isn’t and that will impact the sexual/arousal experiences she gets from the situation. If he’s smaller than her she’s not getting the same lustful experience of having a strapping man on top of her engulfing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:39 PM
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