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Bro, you have no idea. I'm a black south African man myself but I grew up in the burbs and went to top notch schools. I'm one of the the lucky few. Though like many in my exposure to the township isn't a flat 0. I have relatives and family friends in these communities. Having this unique insight only makes me more resentful towards middle/upper class saffas as time goes on. They're views of these communities are so unbelievably incongruent to reality and they'll have the nerve to be the most voc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/26 04:00 PM
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South African black men, who are 80% of the male population in SA have it the worst. They are disppotionatly the highest victims of most forms of violent crimes like shooting, stabbings , muggings. They are overrepresented in the homeless population. They are flunking out of education at exceedingly high rates. Suffer the highest in terms of police brutality. Etc... Yet, SA feminists are under the delusion that they are these violent , savage, patriarchal monsters . All while ignoring the very n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/26 03:45 PM
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I don't like the way the loneliness conversation has been weaponised in the gender war Based on what I've gathered, Loneliness seems to be an issue accross the board, especially for Millenials and Genzs It's just a byproduct of the internet and the rest of modern world we live in. These circumstances atomising and segmenting us more as time goes on. MGTOWs were in denial about this and now online women spaces seem to be taking a similar shape with things like the 4B movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/25 10:02 AM
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I hear ya! I used to be a bit insecure about not liking sports, but now I don't really care. My friends know that about me and dont care either. They still invite me to come watch sports with them just for the company. It's a great social activity so I always end up having a good time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 02:51 PM
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I think right now gender discourse has become so lopsided that people are intrinsically linking bad traits to masculinity , that upon further glance aren't really gendered to begin with. Thinks like being controlling, emotionally obtuse, aggressive or bigoted etc. Are now almost exclusively tied to masculinity in gender discourse. Even though women are just as capable at exhibiting these traits, they just manifest in different ways. While there are habits and pathologies that we as men can impro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 11:51 AM
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I wouldn't call myself masculine in a rugged/traditional sense. Ive never been good at or interested in sports. Never been into cars or anything like that. I was always on the nerdy side and thrived at things that were in the arts and culture space. Ive always had niche inclinations compared to the boys and men around me. However.... Anyone who knows me well wouldn't describe me as effeminate either. I'm becoming more comfortable in my skin with age, not living up to either archetype just doesn'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 11:44 AM
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I agree. I'm starting to realise that the whole "positive masculinity" thing is counter intuitive. Like traditional masculinity, it calls to shove us in a rigid box of acceptable social standards by robbing us of our individuality. It treats us like we are defective women. Some men are traditionally masculine but that's not an inherently harmful thing, so long as they strive to be good people in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 08:22 AM
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That's a very inaccurate characterisation. It's just a delegation of duties type of thing kind of like how men tend to be responsible for yard work and fixing items. It has nothing bro do with control. Im pretty sure the things that are actually shopped for are discussed between the the parties and the woman just pulls the trigger and gets them. This is TRP level of unfair generalisation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/25 10:38 AM
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Hold on now. Isn't this because women do most of the shopping in joint or communal households. I.e. Groceries, clothes, furniture, children supplies etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/25 11:58 AM
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I dont think capitalism is related to this at all. Populism and toxic group think have existed long before captalism. The gender conversation had just become to lopsided. It's typical for human beings to paint a clear enemy when rallying together for a cause. Feminism wants to bog down every nuanced gender issue into an oppressor/oppressed binary, where the so called "oppressed" is always deemed as inherently pure and innocent, and the oppressor as inherently harmful. This is a broader issue on …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/25 07:36 AM
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Which statistics debunk this exactly??? Okay if the majority of black people love in lower socio economic circumstances in the US then please point to a "rich black neighborhood" as in a rich neighborhood that's predominantly black. Most middle class or rich black people to the disperse to the same neighborhoods as their affluent white counterparts. And even if that were true that doesn't automatically mean that it's the afllient black people who are commenting the crimes because as stated befor…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/01/25 12:32 PM
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Nobody is sugar coating anything. The problem with types of arguments is that they are used to dismiss nuance. They are usually driven by laziness at best and pure bad faith at worst. Just to paint a certain group in negative light or implied that said negative outcome is deserved by will of nature. Biology plays a role in everything but the degree to that role is impossible to pinpoint. Case in point. Your singlemotherhood argument and how you gloss over other noteworthy contributing factors. H…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/01/25 11:51 AM
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I really don't like these gender essentilism and biological determinism arguments. Y'all are basically saying that women being assholes is imprinted in their genes and can't be controlled. It's just in them. This like saying black people are violent because they have the "warrior gene, so its just in them Human beings don't really work this way. There other contributjng factors. Also, Men do terrible things to each other too and that includes soft tactics like antagonising and sabotage each othe…
/r/EverydayMisandry18/01/25 11:16 AM
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Look. To each his own. There's nothing wrong with living life without marriage and kids. And I do believe that some people do it out of geniune preference and not hate for the opposite sex. BUT..... Some of these people project so much vitrioil and resentment then will try to convince you that they are fulfilled and at peace. This is both in feminist and MGTOW spaces. And the truth is these people sound like they are not happy with the outcomes of their lives at all. It's very obvious. That's wh…
/r/EverydayMisandry17/01/25 07:24 AM
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Not everything we do as human is a result of an evolutionary adaptation. Societal standards are among them. And as we know, societal standards are very malleable. So modern war is a pretty bad example on your end Human beings evolved being very communal where there was an emphasis on buckling down through adversity TOGETHER. That was the best chance of survival.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 10:41 PM
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Radicalisation has a rubberband effect. While yeah feminism has taken harsh measures it has also spurred outcomes that are unfavorable to its caused. The movement has a bead reputation and is divisive even among women of different races and cultures. And it DID contribute to men becoming more extreme i.e. voting for an anti-democratic leader like Donald Trump, supporting far right movements in Europe etc. This pendulum of extremes doesn't seem to solve ANYTHING. These issues are far too nuanced …
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 10:30 PM
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Evolution made us more "self motivated and willing to buckle down through advertisity" You realise that women evolved alongside with us while surviving in those harsh environments right???
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 08:12 PM
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So what ??? You want us to essentialise half the world's population out of pure spite???? That's just backwards and braindead bro. Men fall into this traps too i.e. the red pill. Radicalisation is by product of flaws in human thinking.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 07:49 PM
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I mean I don't think cut out half the world's population is a healthy thing to strive toward. I disagree with this movement for the same reason I couldn't get on board with MGTOW which wreeked of a similar type of vitriol. There are women out there who are amazing human beings and I think any man is doing himself a great disservice from severing all social connections to them as whole. Obviously the same is true vice versa. But it is your life at the end of the day. So, to each their own I guess…
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 01:48 PM
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I agree to a certain extent. But, this specific sentiment is fuelled by vitriol.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 12:41 PM
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Huh, interesting I've never really thought about it like that. So, you're essentially saying that these women see men as a threat to their relationships with other women. 2) to this point. How can some of them be straight and still be more into other women. Do they just have a bias for other women as people or are you referring to bisexual women?? Because a good number of the women who echo this trend seem to be straight i.e. they talk about men theyve been interested in or had relationships wit…
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 10:56 AM
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I don't know. I mean another commenter mentioned for women who's aren't that into men, they sure spend alot of their time talking about us.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/01/25 07:00 AM
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This is a little late. But this is where progressives really fuck up and lose people. this is what pushed me to the right in my late teens because people like Ben Shapiro were the only ones who were willing to call this out. I'm a liberal now but I still don't identify with the progressive label because its name has been tarnished by what you described.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/25 11:41 AM
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Well. Based on my experience in those spaces, you are right there are very notable distinctions. But, there are also notable overlaps between them. Red pill kinda derived from the PUA stuff communities, like RSD and SoSuave , but then fused with a basterdised psuedo-version of Evo pysch to try and give it more credibility. MGTOWs were dudes who internalised red pill observations and mapped it to their traumatic experiences with women to justify segregating themselves from women completely. Altho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 08:58 PM
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Manosphere part is interesting. When I say "manosphere", I'm mainly referring to the redpill/PurplePill/Black pill/MGTOW/PUA types and those adjacent to that way of thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 06:09 PM
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A bit late. I get what you mean. I'm a black man. Once I was vibing with this Indian girl(gorgeous) and we were really hitting it off. Then she starts spouting the "black men are trash" mantra . I was actually very uncomfortable and offended by those sentiments. I asked her if she felt that way about me and them she profusely denied that. She'd call BM trash in one breath then aggressively flirt with me in the next. It was really jarring. Granted, she had been drinking and I was dead sober. Like…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 03:16 PM
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I agree that patriarchy exists. But I stand by the red pill comparison. They're not as bad now, but some of them seem to be heading in a similar direction( note: this is Mainly feminism online and not as an academic idea).
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 03:25 PM
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I understand what you mean. But just because extremism is more prevalent in one side doesn't mean you downplay or ignore it on the other. That rhetoric and it's resulting attitudes are still wrong and need to be called out when seen.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 03:19 PM
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Yeah man. You're probably right. I was losing my shit during the "Man V Bear" stuff. It was genuinely so revolting to see feminist men and women dehumanize all men to the point of putting them below wild animals. There were women on tik Tok even pushing that stuff on their young sons, trying to low key guilt trip them just because they happened to be born male. Then some of these same women turned around and simped for a literal serial killer named Wade Wilson during his conviction. They fetishi…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 12:28 PM
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The toxic rhetoric about men is really getting out of hand too. Sub Reddits like r/Feminism will happily slander the manosphere yet give more chartibility to divestors.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 08:13 AM
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When was this with KS?
/r/ExRedPill18/07/24 08:33 AM
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No, they don't. No criminal is going to wear a sign saying they're not a criminal. That doesn't mean that it's fair to project that parania onto all men because most of them aren't criminals This thinking is similar to when people say " Did you know that black people commit most homicides, despite being minorities in the general population". Then using this narrative to be racist against black people as a whole, by treating them as the animalistic predators with no rationality and impulsive cont…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 07:19 PM
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THANK YOU💯💯💯
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 06:12 PM
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Delusional take. Bears can absolutely attack you unprovoked.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 05:28 AM
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Isn't the fact that a human is more likely to attack a human more predicated on the fact that human beings are more likely to interact with each other, more than with other animals?????????? I mean isn't the total bear population about 55 000 in north America while having a human population of almost 400 million??? Bears and wild animals in general still have an unpredictability factor to their behavior. Even if you follow the procedure of a supposed animal expert, the animal can still act again…
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 09:12 PM
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That's not true!!! Stop pretending like a bear is a passive animal. It will turn you into mince meat if it feels like it. You're not living in an episode of Winnie the Pooh. Lmao There are definitely precautions to prevent abuse just like another other type of crime. That's what law enforcement and the justice system is for. You sound like a racist conservative who says " I don't feel safe around Blacks because of all the crime they commit. You're using a form of gender essentilism against men. …
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 06:50 PM
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A bear can tear your leg off for a snack, then drag you to it's habitat to save you for dinner. I read a story about a man who was attacked by a bear on his front porch, then it dragged him into the woods to it's habitat and ate him alive. So yeah, a bear can also and is more likely to capture and have it's way with you
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 06:45 PM
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Bears are not predictable. They act on primarily on base instinct, thats what being a wild animal means. A man is far show you empathy and compassion than a wild bear. You speak of a lack of empathy but you don't notice it in your very own analysis. You are comparing a random average man, a human being, to a fucking wild animal like they operate on the same baseline. The vast majority of men are not sexual predators. The vast majority of men have never raped a woman. So why are you comparing the…
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 06:42 PM
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Because logically your chances of making it out of that scenario in one piece are much higher with a man. Anything other than that is trauma dumping or explicit misandry.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 06:04 PM
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Exactly 💯💯. This is why the scenario should be reframed. If I had a magic wand and used replace every man on earth each with bear, then would women feel safer in general??
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 05:18 PM
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That's only because woman encounter men like a million times more often than a bear. The scenario should be reframed. If I had a magic wand and used it to replace all the men, every single one, on earth with a bear , then would women feel safer?? You're definitely not in the minority for being terrified of a bear lol. Most people choosing bear are either bluffing or delusional. They'd wouldn't hesitate to choose a random man in real life.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 05:15 PM
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I see some women using this to guilt trip they're young sons. That's really messed up.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 05:11 PM
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A bear could definitely stalk a woman if it was hungry. Lol
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 05:09 PM
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Most men wouldn't do that either.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 04:56 PM
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THIS RIGHT HERE. And you notice that every time this extreme rhetoric is used against men. It effects men of color, specifically black men, in the HARSHEST way.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 04:54 PM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/ExRedPill01/08/23 02:36 PM
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He pushed for marriages that had red pill dynamics i.e. Extreme female submission , men "exercising their options" etc. Trad cons don't view marriages in this light, it's only red pillers who push for stuff like that. True.Most of those men had the political authority and power to get as many women that they wanted, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the women wanted them. Remember those women had very little agency, they had no choice but to submit to the authority of powerful men. That's a…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/23 04:38 AM
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True. What isn't really addressed are fascistic elements that seem to be embedded in that Red/black pill. The obsession with dominance hierarchies i.e alpha/beta, driven through essentialism and appealing to nature. The obsession with biological determinism used as a means to justify subjugating women( "keeping them in their place"). All these ideas and techniques were historically used by fascists a justification to dehumanize women and oppressed groups For example, There's a video by Donovan S…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 05:37 PM
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Most traditionalists aren't, but he definitely was. He was red pill with a traditionalist facade. He was actually instrumental in popularising the idea of a "HVM" cheat... Whoops, I mean "exercising options to fulfill their biological imperatives. He pretty much espoused most of the major red pill talking points on his show , with a traditionalist spin on it
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 02:14 PM
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I don't know why people like to paint KS as a moderate and reasonable version of the RP. KS also had very extreme traditionalist views with regard to intergender dynamics. In some of his videos the dude literally advocates for women to be blank slates for their husbands to exert power and control over through means like domestic vio, whoops I mean "domestic discipline". He was every bit as res pill as the people in the "do not watch list". He just knew how to present it in a reasonable way, thro…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 08:35 AM
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What makes you distrustful of self-improvement content, out of curiosity?
/r/ExRedPill26/07/23 08:15 PM
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Both sides will compromise to some degree. Most people prefer being with others who are close to them in income.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 04:43 AM
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What about someone like David Buss, who the manosphere often site as an influence and who tends to agree with someone like Rollo??
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 10:30 PM
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White women are the least likely to intermarry probably because they get the most flack for it, socially speaking.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 10:27 AM
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Which surveys were these?
/r/ExRedPill19/02/23 02:02 AM
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Why is that exclusive to men??
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 07:41 PM
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https://youtu.be/_8telkBWbgQ. It's one step removed from that prescription. There are Red pillers who believe that everything wrong with political and economic policies and structure are due to female engagement in those things. So the next logical step is to try to limit women's rights in these aspects. They don't directly say this, but it's heavily implied.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/22 11:12 AM
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Macabre Storytelling- watch his extensive video on dating and sex and his previous Live streams. Expose the manosphere on youtube. Münecat on YouTube. The book titled "The irrational male: The case against Rollo Tomassi". Streamers: Vaush and Destiny. These should be good places to start.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 09:50 AM
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Rollo Tomassi builds his entire worldview using mis-represented and cherry-picked statistics to weave a narrative that paints men in protagonist light and paints women in an antagonist light. Most of his ideas have been plagirisued from older pua forums. The man is terrified to debate anybody who could competently challenge the pill.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 04:36 AM
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The red pill tends to propose two very opposing viewpoints of women's overall capacity for affection 1st viewpoint: They'll tell you that women operate entirely off of their emotions without ever thinking things through. This causes women to breed chaos in their lives ,like a planet spinning off of its axis. They operate off of emotions alone. 2nd Viewpoint: The second view is that women are slaves to their most primitive biological instincts like hypergamy. This makes them cold and unable to fe…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 08:14 PM
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He didn't pull them out of his ass. He plagiarised them from PUA and dating coach blogs from way back when , then he tried to package those ideas as his own
/r/ExRedPill27/09/22 07:53 AM
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The latest fresh n Fit pod featured Destiny, MJ Get right, Sneako, Melina and Erudite Link: https://youtu.be/VCvKHvasg20
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 09:03 PM
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I agree. He brought NotSoErudite on the last one as back up. She killed it, like destiny is can see she was refraining on certain talking points but she did an excellent job of challenging red pill logic internally. However I would like to see them progressively take their gloves off if you know what I mean. Sometimes their are too many dumb points Myron will make that they'll just let slide.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/22 10:21 AM
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Why do you think it's not? TRP is usually presented through an EP lens, especially by people like Rollo Tomassi.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 09:40 PM
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What advice would you give to a man in his early 20s who's struggling with the same issues but doesn't want to end up like red pillers and completely disavows their ideology?
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 10:55 AM
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Go crazy??
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 08:34 PM
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What is your take on the biological determinism of the manosphere i.e Rollo Tom masi?
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 07:00 PM
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