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right but I don't support him, we support ourselves so the whole financial support thing is moot. So in the absence of the need for financial support, what should he be bringing to the table to deserve me, in your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:13 AM
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why not? if he can benefit from my income why can't I use that as an asset? He does by the way, I buy him things, pay for dinners, cover my expenses so he doesn't have to. Why should he get this benefit? Why does he deserve that plus more but the only think I deserve is his same exact money?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:07 AM
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Youthful (check) Submissive (nope) Nurturing (check) but he is too attractive with a sexy body (check) respect him (check) but he respects me too Don't nag him (I will if I have to and he nags me sometimes too) plus I earn the same money and I am nice. But here's the thing, if I earn the same money what is he bringing to the table? Like there is the big flaw in your argument. You are saying he can benefit from my income but that's not enough, I have to be all of the other things you listed but f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:02 AM
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I do. But before I answer I think it would be fun to see if our ideas of my worth add up. What do you think I bring to the table? Don't worry I won't be offended. I am genuinely curious what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:52 AM
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Ok so I asked him. He laughed and made fun of me for arguing with people on reddit but after that he said 'haha I don't know, we get each other. We're both funny, we're both good looking, and I like you....and you like me" i don't know if this helps or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:45 AM
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Ok so my partner is 5'11, I mean its close so you might dismiss this out of hand and I would say he makes around 70k (we are both in our 20s btw) Those are not your exact figures but they are relatively close. What standards do you think I should be meeting to deserve him?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:28 AM
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It’s not about downplaying anyone’s worth but rather understanding that in the realm of exceptional matches, the qualities sought might be as rare as the men in these statistical brackets. But why do you think that women are seeking men that make 100k or that are 6 feet tall? We all know that dating app statistics are unreliable. The same guys that claim that self reported studies can't be trusted will live and die by information that comes from a dating app where men outnumber women dramaticall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:14 AM
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When you comment you are potentially engaging in conversation with thousands of strangers. You don't want to talk to redditors? get off reddit...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:32 PM
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I love that the people arguing with you are proving your points. Keep fighting the good fight!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:34 AM
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Are you an angel? Because you've been running around my mind.... Wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:23 AM
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Good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:01 AM
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lol no actually. There are varying levels of attractiveness and quite frankly if a guy keeps himself in shape and takes care of his hygiene it’s very rare that he will be downright ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:12 AM
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Me too! This is nice 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:42 PM
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Less likely, just because I don’t have a sweet tooth doesn’t mean I don’t ever eat sweets, and yes, the disparity in sex drive is what balances it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:31 PM
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Not quite, we can agree that male sex drive is higher so your analogy should read, who is going to eat more cookies, the person who cannot get enough cookies and will go out of their way to access them or the person who doesn't like sugar but is around cookies all the time. I personally don't like sweets and will not eat them if they are around so this analogy spoke to me lol I think in the end it balances out and men and women cheat at the same rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:53 PM
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What you'll find is that high risk and pressure situations you'll find that cortisol management is way better in men. I think you are referring to this study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1454958) but there wasn't information in the study to suggest your conclusion. Can you walk me through how you got to this assumption? It just so happens that males just have more tools (for better or worse) that allows them to be more interested and have the capability to complete those tasks. And you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:50 PM
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I don't have any off the top of my head but ideally the information should be more recent and therefore relevant. Either way, it doesn't really affect me and you have to decide what's right for you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:35 PM
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Oh that’s interesting! I’m excited to look into it, I love a good rabbit hole to dive into
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:33 PM
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I thought these sources were great. Can I ask what your opinion is as far as they relate to your stance?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:47 AM
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Those spells don't work on me. Dammit! I will continue to think men and women cheat on their partners to the same extent and surveys are not effective in studying this issue. Well fine. but I will get you next time my pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:42 AM
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So regarding your philosophy on women, do you think these are reliable sources? For instance, if you were tasked with gaining a deeper understanding of the less moral and less reasonable sex, would you rely on these guys or do you think you could find better sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:36 AM
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Both genders lose raw sexual attraction as novelty wanes. There are obvious similarities. There are also differences to be explored as well. Reasonable take and yes I agree. she often loses all thoughts and almost all attraction to other men in a way that is not quite mirrored in the male experience. Maybe, I don't really know much about this but I wouldn't dismiss it outright. it is easier for female desire to dip below the 'sex is better than no sex' threshold. Did you mean to say female here?…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:31 AM
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Ok so lets talk about it then. You are basing your view of this on your personal opinion (how emotional of you) while disregarding the data due to the unreliability of the data you have done no research on. If you want us to take your criticism of research seriously you have to provide content as to why there is a reasonable doubt to the information presented. Other than that, I mean we can all be flat earthers together. Scientists just make stuff up right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:25 AM
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inadvertently smothering, cloying, clingy, and over-eager, rather than dismissive of her side of the interest and wanting to drive the whole thing. Ya, I think the propensity to see mal intent in benign behavior is the catalyst for most negative interactions and misunderstandings. I love a good back and forth. It takes a group dynamic, everyone has their contribution to make, and I like it that way. I kind of knew that you thought this but after being so jaded by this sub I did get a warm fuzzy …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:22 AM
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the Coolidge effect This is an effect that describes animal behavior and has since been related to human interactions. I mean if we want to take it for what it is, females experience the same effect. If you are going to reference human sexual behavior it should probably be based on research that studies humans
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:14 AM
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Alright you, I'm back You can look at Briffault's Law, Schopenhauer's criticism that they lack justice The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, This man was a surgeon and good for him but did you know that he wasn't an anthropologist? He was self taught in these interests. Regarding his book "The Mothers" we can assume that this book, wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:07 AM
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That you for your response, there are a lot of solid points in here. a man is rarely able to share his passions I get this, as someone who also has niche interests I can relate. But.... He's finally being acknowledged as a person, as someone with cool hobbies, by somebody who likes those things too, and for once he's not being kicked down a social black hole. Have you considered her role in this? Imagine trying to make that same connection, the one you can agree the man has been yearning for, on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:46 AM
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1st link doesn't work Your second source was great. I will get to the others but lets talk about this one suggest that male brains may be optimized for motor skills, and female brains may be optimized for combining analytical and intuitive thinking. I have some experience with sports and I will tell you that I believe men have a spatial awareness associated with movement that women in general do not show the same extent of , however, analytical thinking is the exact logic that red pill men claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:33 AM
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so i probably misinterpreted your point. care to expand?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:23 AM
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I think assuming that both parties cheat at the same rate is perfectly reasonable and I have absolutely seen the disparity between applauding women for this behavior (and more grossly abusive tactics) and vilifying men for it. Fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:22 AM
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You think women expressing an interest in games and anime are pick me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:16 AM
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Briffault's Law, Schopenhauer Before I respond I would like you to admit fully that you align with these men and their theories. you cited them and I expect that you support them in their research and writings yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:55 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you putting the effort into the response but only a tiny brained woman would take your word for it. You got anything to back this stuff up source wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:38 AM
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Why aren't men flocking to the fashion industry despite the huge potential it has to bring money? They are.. .ONLY AROUND 14% OF THE TOP 50 MAJOR FASHION BRANDS ARE RUN BY WOMEN Is this similar to the STEM gender disparity? Are the sapiophobic males in this context in minority? How much do they affect badly nerdy women during school? Any link to femcels? Semi-rhetoric questions, probably to a much lesser extent than to males Have you looked into this though? Are women less likely to be bullied o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:18 AM
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What may have worked on you? The unequivocable truth that Kohlberg did not study women? To counter this clear flaw in the man's studies you reference your personal experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:11 AM
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​ There are significant cognitive and behavioral differences between men and women. In terms of intelligence, interests, emotionality, etc. This doesn't equate to one being better than the other, just that there are differences The flip side is that it's much harder for men to find a willing sexual partner than women, and women more easily get bored in committed relationships. I have heard the idea that women being able to have sex easier is the reasoning behind this assumption but this is a sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:08 AM
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You do realize that Kohlberg only studied boys right? If I did a study on cats and dogs regarding loyalty, and my study found cats to be more loyal based on the experiments I conducted, would you question my findings if you found out that I never actually included dogs in my experiments?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:44 AM
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you might just have a limited world view. Women claim they don't want to work on such field because there are only men in there and of mysogyny. Do you know women who have worked in these fields and have heard their stories? Do you know men who are in STEM fields and can back up this claim from the behavior they have witnessed? I know both and yes, women experience a certain amount of hostility and yes, there are men who will tell you this is absolutely true and they have seen it themselves. I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:31 AM
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Personality is an important consideration after the fact of "he's attractive." An ugly guy with a good personality is getting treated worse by your average woman than a good looking guy with a shitty personality. I gotta say, I think you are wrong here. Charisma is a hell of a thing and I know so many popular and well liked men who wouldn't be considered conventionally attractive that hit it off with women. And I know those shitty good looking guys too and generally they get shitty good looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:23 AM
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Ya, its personality. He makes you feel good about yourself, he is confident but not in a way that is cocky or intimidating, rather like you can trust him and you can believe he will have your back, he has an easy manner and is comfortable in his own skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:04 AM
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Number one is actually true. I can tell you that a man's personality is a pretty important thing. The rest are just examples of the fact that both men and women can be shitty. At least we have that in common right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:35 AM
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I don't think your list is utter bullshit, many of these can be conceded but can I ask about a few? I would say the idea that men and women are equal physically and mentally. I think its pretty delusional to believe that women are as strong physically as men but I am curious about the mentally part. Can you expand? Women work as hard as men. Also this one, it kind of comes back to the mentally vs physically and I assume you mean than men work more hours or do more physically demanding jobs (I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:33 AM
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Enjoyable from start to finish. Chefs kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:02 PM
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lol like underwear
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:50 AM
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I heard three stories recently that left me speechless. All of them centered around a fixation regarding objects that have come in contact with a woman’s … I mean you know. From underwear to hardware, the object in question was then “inspected” by the man (one was a story about a teenage boy). All three stories left me in shock. I wouldn’t even say I was even really judgmental, just overly suprized at the intensity of attraction. It got me wondering whether or not I fully understood how men view…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:37 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:02 PM
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You disagree... yes I understand
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:10 AM
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ok. I am not going to argue with you anymore. you disagree. I get it. Now you are actively trying to turn me into a villain by perpetuation of the conversation in a way that actively dismisses and misrepresents both my points and OPs points. I engage in subs like this specifically because its fun to be exposed to ideas that I do not align with. This isn't that serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:18 PM
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eh, I'm an optimist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:55 PM
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Oh I know. I am right there with you reading these posts that paint women to be monsters. He is at least advocating for men to improve themselves though, much better that the usual "even if I improve it doesn't matter, women don't care!!!! blahh!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:52 PM
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fair enough, we are all entitled to make the best decision for ourselves. Only we as individuals know what that is after all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:43 PM
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ok, either way I hold nothing against you personally and wish you the best
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:24 PM
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Nuts!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:23 PM
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thanks you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:00 PM
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I can't change the way you feel here and that's ok. It wouldn't be fair for the to say you shouldn't feel the way you feel, I've been on this sub plenty enough to know that there is hostility directed towards women. This is a tough discussion for a lot of reasons and I engage in stuff like this because i like seeing the process behind opinions that differ from mine. But I don't want to invalidate yours in that process so forgive me if I came off that way. Thanks for the conversation!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:00 PM
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Thanks for the conversation, at the end of the day I think we agree on most things. It was kind of fun reversing the roles a bit here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:55 PM
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No of course but I think abusive relationships are their own issue. Assuming that looking at potential means a woman shouldn't vet their potential partner isn't what I mean. I think it just means to consider factors like character, work ethic, morals, past behavior, compatibility, etc. and not financial status or home ownership. And this is why I am like a dog with a bone on this. These are all feminist ideals. Not needing a man for money, choosing a man you are attracted to, being independent e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:54 PM
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Yeah of course he has said problematic things, this is PPD. Its kind of what we are here for. When debating someone, sure its important to keep their viewpoints in mind, but its also important to keep your viewpoints in mind. His problematic opinions don't offend me to the point where I would deviate from my own stance just to argue against it. I just think its important to stand strong on your values and not dismiss them in favor of winning an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:46 PM
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Meh fair enough. We all have to do what's best for us at the end of the day and no one on Reddit can make that judgement call for us (thank god lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:40 PM
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Dude I am not arguing with you because I fundamentally disagree with you. I probably share close to all of your viewpoints. His points are based in red pill rhetoric which say a man needs to be rich to be attractive to women and women here are kind of falling into a trap (unintended I think) of arguing for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:28 PM
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No, lol but I think its a hilarious observation. I get it but in fact I am sure I have disagreed with him many times and argued back and forth. In fact I have argued back and forth with a lot of guys on this sub. Its just frustrating to see so many people kick aside blue pill talking points just because a red pill (or I think he is purple) pill man suggested it. I'll argue with men AND women! Hell I will even argue with children, grandpas and grandmas, cats that give me funny looks, I don't care…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:26 PM
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You are getting caught up on this active potential thing. Please keep in mind that he is using red pill talking points. We need to view the argument from that stance. What is your definition of a completed man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:19 PM
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Again, I know its a good argument for you but I am not making that argument so you need to let it go. You should be sexually attracted to your partner, your sexual attraction shouldn't be influence by how much money he has, hence the potential. If I am sexually attracted to a man, and he has potential (to clarify this means I judge his character to be decent), he is worth dating. I am a full ass grown woman with money and I don't need his cash. I need him to be a decent guy who turns me on. So h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:17 PM
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I don't think you have to agree whole heartedly with the OP. But reactively disagreeing to the point that we lose sight of our values in this is not great. Women are up and down this sub saying that men should basically be rich, successful, own a house, have a good family, be saving for retirement, etc. before they are worth dating. Fuck, I don't have all those boxes checked but I still want to date. Doesn't this objectively sound like some 1950's bullshit to you? If a woman's role matters, if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:13 PM
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There is still No garuntee he will become a high paying lawyer, that he will Pass the bar, that he will find employment or that he will even enjoy it - and him changing fields completely. You don't mean it this way but it seems like you are saying because he isn't a high paid lawyer already he isn't worth it. If they do great you can look at them again in the future when they do or you can just find someone else This is exactly what they mean when they try to say women want to run around and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:06 PM
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I wouldn't agree with the potential for attraction either. I can concede there, you must be physically attracted to the guy. As I said before most men haven't attained anything when they enter relationships. They're entering them in their mid 20's and marrying on average at 30. Most men never reach 6 figures. The average US salary is 40-50k. Most men don’t look like models either, but there needs to be attraction, not the potential for them to become attractive to you. Most men are still in rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:01 PM
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I mentioned the importance of mutual physical attraction This isn't something I or the OP has argued against.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:57 PM
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You and a lot of other women keep saying this. It would go a long way towards advancing the discussion if you would address the stance I am outlining. Unfinished untested product is assuming you are just jumping into a relationship with anyone off the street. To be quite honest its a little heartbreaking to see so many women base their argument off of the idea that women can't be trusted to judge potential and character enough to reliably choose a partner. And if we are talking about and unfinis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:56 PM
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I am not sure but I do believe this is moving the goal post. Yes I need to be attracted to my partner. No this is not the only qualification I am looking for because that would be short sighted. I would rather date a guy I am attracted to who has potential than date a 'finished product' that I have no attraction to. Again, I cannot stress enough that this is a perfect opportunity for women to enter this conversation and say "of course potential matters, this is why we don't think a man isn't wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:50 PM
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You don’t need them to be a chad but you need to be happy with who and what they are when you meet them because if they never achieve more then it’s fine because you already are happy Exactly. This is why this is a great opportunity to showcase that a man doesn't have to be rich and successful to be worth dating. The potential you see has to do with his family values, which is actually one of OP's points. Its about the potential that women see in the guys, not that he is a mega-chad .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:47 PM
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That's the thing, this was a perfect opportunity to support the "Chad" thing. But a lot of women are inadvertently backing up red pill talking points. The argument you are making is that men aren't worth dating unless they are successful and handsome. This plays into everything a lot of men believe about female attraction. That its superficial and that men have to be extremely handsome to get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:38 PM
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Ok, so good to know. So he needs to be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:31 PM
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Can you show me where he said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:30 PM
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I mean at the end of the day, this site is so popular because anger is addictive. Its a pretty big ask to have everyone step outside their perspective and have a conversation with someone across the aisle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:22 PM
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Sure, and now he is on here talking about this as if his mind has changed. Lets make sure we stomp that out ya? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:19 PM
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I don't think he said that and I think the fitness thing is a well hashed topic on this site. I think both sides would agree that wanting someone with a healthy and active lifestyle is understandable. Unless of course it was said by someone you don't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:18 PM
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Honestly I am starting to see the overarching problem here. We are viewing people as commodities either way. No one is a finished product. That's the thing no one is talking about is that the idea of a finished product is delusional. OP never said go get you a homeless guy. He said don't go for high value men. You want to hear something really sad. I was all for this argument because I though, finally, the guy is going to start to understand that a high value man is a silly concept and that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:15 PM
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Cool, I am going off of this argument. The idea of refusing to acknowledge the reasonable points made because you dug through the post history means that the true issue doesn't matter to you. So many people are so concerned with being right that the issues they argue about are thrown aside and the solutions that they seemingly advocate for are completely disposable if its not done exactly the way they want by exactly who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:09 PM
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And he never said that. Why is this the focal point? Am I supposed to only be sexually attracted to a finished product? My sexual attraction very much relies on the guy as an individual. I have to get to know him, I have to enjoy being around him, he's gotta make me laugh, none of these things mean he has to be tenured with a house and 3 cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:06 PM
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thank you for taking the gender out of it, that's really important in these conversations I think. Also there is definitely degrees of consideration. But having the ability to judge someone's character plays an important role in that. I am sure he meant someone who is actively on their way, I think he called them a rising 6 in his last post. I take this as meaning the two parties involved can reasonably be given the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:04 PM
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Thanks for saying so! I am very much reeling from the responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:00 PM
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Don't red pill men make this same talking point. I swear if we swapped out the gender of the people you are talking about I would sweat you were red pill. We are talking about building a relationship with a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:57 PM
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Ok. Good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:56 PM
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He never said to rush into marriage. The dude is literally advocating for getting to know someone on a personal level. This world holds no guarantees but I think empathy and humanity are worth speaking up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:55 PM
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That is actually what he meant, I don't know if he said it clearly but in the original post he warned against going for deadbeats and made the point that a woman should judge the character of the man and have some standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:52 PM
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is this true of a woman recovering from a traumatic past?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:50 PM
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again with this obese talking point. What if you were on the receiving end of this question? How would you answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:49 PM
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would you? I'm sorry but why is this your talking point? Why not, would you date a woman getting her degree? Doing an internship? Who is recovering from a traumatic childhood? Why go for the straight up 'obese' argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:47 PM
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Have you considered the fact that this is a growing opportunity for him and a lot of other guys on this? The flaws in his argument can be addressed as misconceptions rather than deliberate attempts to attack women. We can do better than this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:45 PM
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again, I really don't think that's what he means at all. If a woman said that men shouldn't be sought after for his money and status but rather for what that woman personally wants in a guy you would be all for it because it means that women are able to choose men based on character and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:43 PM
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That may be a projection. Something refreshing about this post is it enforces the idea that women are capable of choosing someone based on her character judgment. This involves getting to know the guy first and having a strong sense of self and independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:41 PM
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I do believe that this was what he meant all along to be fair. In his other post he actually warned against trying to fix someone up and to rather make sure they have drive and motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:35 PM
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can you point out what is offensive to women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:33 PM
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No, I think you communicated clearly. This is very eye opening for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:33 PM
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So if I am in the middle of my masters (which I am) no one in my life should respect or support me until I get it? What he is saying is that going after high status men is not in woman's best interests because of the power imbalance. The amount of time I have spent arguing with men on this sub that women don't just go for power and money and that his personality matters, just to have droves of women come in and argue against that is really blowing my mind right now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:32 PM
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Sounds like a lovely relationship, I wish you all the best. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:29 PM
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Except that now you are doing the same thing. Explaining what a man wants to be loved for even though this guys is telling you something different. If you hate the behavior so much, why emulate it? Why miss an opportunity to bridge the gap and show what empathetic discourse looks like. Now I am going to have men referencing your conversation here when I ask them why they aren't being respectful or empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:29 PM
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Because he was talking about building a relationship. His omission wasn't an attempt to suggest women should force themselves to be attracted to men. Its more like recognizing that attraction is complex so talking about the framework of a relationship without including specific details for attraction makes for a more inclusive argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:23 PM
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Would you date an obese man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:18 PM
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Where did he say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:17 PM
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I gotta say OP this is very humbling. You learned from your last post through discussion and made changes (some of which were based on your conversation with me) and it has still generated ire and judgement. I think these are good points and I applaud you for engaging in thoughtful conversations with women. No matter what anyone says in these comments, you aren't a bad guy and your opinions are not outlandish or evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:16 PM
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Do you think equality as far as income and power had a part to play in the success of your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:12 PM
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I might be misreading that but I don't think that is what he is trying to say. Did I miss something in the original post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:11 PM
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There you go. A red pill man agrees. People aren't worth investing in.....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:07 PM
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ya know, of all the posts on this site, we can actually say this guy is trying to present the opinion in a respectful way. He literally took advice from his original post and made an effort to defend this in a decent manner. I think we can meet him halfway at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:06 PM
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Some men and yes, I have seen a lot of assumptions about women's attraction on this sub. So.... So many assumptions.....So many. I think he is on the right track here as far as what equity might look like. Invest in each other, find someone who values you, don't sacrifice your independence, etc. I agree that a man's worth isn't rooted in how much money he has and I think most women do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:00 PM
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What an interesting source! thanks for the info
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:54 PM
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exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:49 PM
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I can see what you are saying here but don't you think that attraction is very subjective for women? There are men who I've thought were so handsome but when I show a friend a picture, they were like eww. I can't count the number of times my brother has called my crushes goofy looking. The reason my attractions are so unpredictable is because personality plays a heavy factor which flies in the face of dating apps or any situation where I am expected to view a mans stupid car, dumb haircut, or he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:48 PM
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Great points! It makes me wonder about the dynamic that women having more opportunities to freedom has on a lot of these aspects. Considering women had less access to capital and power in the past, the desire to get the 8/9 was well founded since she knew she would have to rely heavily on him for a better quality of life. Now we have women who don't have to rely on a man to ensure a secure life, some of these standards don't really make a lot of sense. Especially considering that, in my opinion,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:43 PM
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I have a theory. When polled, women in European nations where women are known for having the most access to equality actually expressed a wish to have more children then they were having. We might need to reconcile with the fact that in an ever advancing society where women are more capable than ever when it comes to contributing to society, we might need to make a concentrated effort to make the workplace less hostile to caregivers. Hear me out here, we know that family and raising children use…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:13 PM
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No that's good! I like that one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:12 AM
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hmm let me think. Women should view a man's value as an investment or If women want to find high quality men, look at their potential Idk. I'm tired
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:30 AM
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Its nice to hear that from someone else lol. I thought it was just me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:17 AM
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Sure, and we can pretend like we don't owe someone respectful discourse but still deserve that same respect when it comes to our issue but at the end of the day you know what I am talking about. If you think the argument has value, then you should do it the justice of presenting it in a way where it will be heard. That means not alienating half of your audience right off the bat. But you don't have to acknowledge this either. Its my belief that if we work together we are stronger and with that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:16 AM
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no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:03 AM
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Exactly that, there's no reason to attack people when talking about complex issues. You can absolutely get your same point across without directly insulting the person you are talking to. But what ever, this sub is what it is. You don't have to agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:01 AM
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lmao bro I just answered your question, calm the fuck down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:59 AM
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biological female
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:52 AM
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Women are the ones slowly destroying the dating market without knowing This what his post title. Men on this sub need to learn how to talk to women without insulting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:47 AM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Respectful discourse is the only solution to the majority of these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:41 AM
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oh! ya you can't take this sub too seriously lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:57 AM
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No, I think he is talking about the irony that people are dismissed immediately because some think their rights are more important. Its not that he's 100% correct but shutting someone down if they are willing to engage in conversation is never ok so in some ways he might be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:52 AM
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yeah I see your point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:49 AM
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I've been called a TERF before too, it was in an argument where I told someone they should be more mature about how they present their standpoint, they called me a TERF and blocked me lol I don't know, if you are using the word TERF to restrict someone's ability to speak in a conversation where they are being open and respectful its kind of ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:45 AM
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W!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:48 AM
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Oh for sure. He has some pretty good points once you get past his presentation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:40 AM
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haha probably cause you called it out, good work!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:54 AM
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Oh shit I think they took it down lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:48 AM
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Thank god its not just me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:40 AM
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That was a fun one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:36 AM
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Based. The guy really said this whole ass sub shouldn't exist because you are in it lmao. Its almost a compliment. Your take is a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:27 PM
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lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:19 PM
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That's interesting, its frustrating that a lot of the source links in the article didn't work. While I don't think this is the whole picture, I certainly won't dismiss it outright. A couple of factors that play into this are that women know men are less likely to report or talk about it so they feel like they can get away with it, also women might think its not as bad because she is weaker but clearly it is as bad as no one deserves to be physically abused (mental anguish from this is just as da…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:09 PM
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No, its not shallow, everyone wants someone who takes care of their appearance, not to mention if you like someone you want them to stay healthy. I wouldn't want to be with someone who couldn't do active things with me because they choose not to stay physically active.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:01 PM
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Ok, this is very reasonable tbh. Thanks for the chat!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:56 PM
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Ohhh I see! I thought you were being funny and telling me to re-read your post, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:50 PM
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You linked me to your own post, it cracked me up. And I am just curious what you think the best way to spot a rising 6 is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:25 PM
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Do you think this is possible through dating apps or is it better for women to be looking for these men in her social circles?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:23 PM
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lmao, that's funny ​ I have a theory that very smart women who have healthy parents who taught these things, pitfalls, and are very self aware know this find these men and live happy ever after because the recognize what happens as of level 7. Is this where you answer that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:21 PM
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Hmmm interesting. Thanks for your explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:19 PM
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How do we tell if he is a rising 6?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:18 PM
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Sounds lovely. I think this is the dream actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:17 PM
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yes, your post was a lot to read but I do appreciate you helping me understand. You said that women are letting men become too powerful and we are supposed to snatch them up when they are still at a 6, am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:13 PM
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Like working out, finding a decent career, etc. right? And women can't improve their value? They just depreciate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:11 PM
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I'd rather live on the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:09 PM
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Ok and how is this tied to women ruining the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:07 PM
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Ok so what you're saying is that men can improve their value but women can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:07 PM
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Ok so you are saying that women should invest in men, even if hey aren't attracted to them because they may become a 7?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:04 PM
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lol yeah you're right, its actually not worth it at all. I didn't think it was obvious that he was referencing that part but who knows. My fault for letting reddit work me up. I do try to give guys empathy on here because I think a lot of them deserve it but man I gotta remember that nothing on this sub or any other should get me bent out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:19 PM
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Love that this is “going crazy”, I’m glad I screen shotted it. I’m glad three separate men on this sub showed up to ignore the context of the situation and call me crazy. I’m glad that all three men chose to abstain from being empathetic or engage in the conversation respectfully, the reason I screen shot conversations (like this one too) is that you guys tend to delete your comments after you have a second to realize that you aren’t being the saints you make yourself out to be when you ask wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:59 PM
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Hold on you’re not gonna sit there and literally falsely accuse me of making a comment and then run away. What comment do you think I made and deleted? What did I accuse him of?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:42 AM
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Im hysterical for responding to a comment that called women weak and fearful in a direct response to an experience I shared where a man approached me with a group of other men behind him. I didn’t delete anything btw. That’s a weird thing throw in at the end. What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:32 AM
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This is what you consider freaking out? This is the radical feminism that is such a threat? Have you thought about this for like 3 seconds?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:25 AM
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This is good information to include when you talk about things like this. It would go a long way in bridging the gap between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:21 AM
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I appreciate the thought. Idk man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:17 AM
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How should I have known that. You were responding directly to me with a comment saying exactly that women of my generation are weak and fearful
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:16 AM
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Btw the fearful and weak generation of women he’s talking about includes me. But no, his words don’t matter. Only my reaction to them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:10 AM
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Yes, the evidence you needed to justify your hatred of women was here all along
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:09 AM
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Because nothing in your reply indicated that you acknowledged my experience in an empathetic light. You only latched onto the dogshit one, went on a rant about women and feminists and insulted modern women without indicating which part of my story you were referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:04 AM
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Np. Gonna go ahead and screenshot this for the next time a guy on this sub asks about why women aren’t empathetic to men’s problems
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:52 AM
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My experience that I shared with you just now reminded you of a Tik tok of a crazy woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:48 AM
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Maybe. I’ve seen it too, men just walking up and trying to tell a a girl she is about to walk into dog shit or something and she freaks out on him for being a pervert. For sure this happens. The other thing happens too though. It’s happened to me, standing and waiting for my ride after work, a man walked up to me with his group of friends behind him and said “you seem nice!” And tried to get into my space. It was a pretty public place so I walked off and his group laughed. Idk. I’d just rather n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:41 AM
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Ya it goes both ways for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:10 AM
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I also don't think men are monsters yet I get called all sorts of terrible things by dudes on this sub. We are very much the same lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:55 PM
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Wow. Lots of stuff to address here. Just to clarify - you’re saying that men insult, belittle, and blame women for their problems, then expect empathy? Yes. Specifically speaking about the whole 'men can't get laid' issue, women are consistently the target of ire. The idea that women only go for money, status, assholes who abuse them, etc. is a constant talking point of these posts. Women want to be loved, but they don't want to love. most women don't deserve chivalry from men The fact that so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:33 PM
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Do these men acknowledge these double standards after I insult, belittle, and blame them? Should I expect empathy from a subgroup of people I routinely bash and degrade? Do these men even want our empathy? It seems like a lot of these posts use language about women that is horribly offensive and degrading. Do posts like this deserve our empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:32 PM
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Good point lol it really does seem too on the nose sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:25 PM
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you want me to read your post back to you so that you can understand the context of my direct reply to the thing you typed out? Do you have the authority to speak for most men and women on either of these assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:26 AM
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Do they now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:23 AM
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same!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:19 AM
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Why do you think it is that we can't compel murder suspects to give their DNA?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:18 AM
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Thank you! You have no idea how much this reply lifts my spirits after engaging in this post!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:13 AM
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well said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:06 AM
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If the government suddenly mandated that all citizens were required to submit a DNA sample, like you need to submit a saliva swab at 'this' government building by this 'time' or penalties and legal persecutions would be implemented, would it matter if it were free?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:05 AM
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I'm not. This isn't a debate post. You don't have the ability or knowledge to debate this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:52 AM
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Its not my responsibility to think critically about this issue for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:46 AM
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you want me to explain the impact of a broken home on child development and psychology? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:41 AM
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Oh I see. This is good information. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:37 AM
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I think this position deserves to be defended by guys like you. Keep defending your position exactly as you are doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:36 AM
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So you don't think this would negatively impact the newborns life over the next few years after it gains the ability to comprehend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:33 AM
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So this wasn't a comment directed at women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:25 AM
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I am trying to ask you if the psychological impact of having your family thrown into disarray directly after birth is worse than finding this out later in life. Since I am being so dense let me simplify my point for you. You claim that mandatory DNA tests will save children from mental anguish if they find out later in life that their dad wasn't their biological father. Even though your logic on this opinion of yours was unbelievably clear (not dense like me) you failed to think about the implic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:24 AM
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Anything that may then look bad, asymmetrically, is not worth it to them because they want to protect their egos. what did you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:18 AM
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..... What experience do you think the newborn will have if the infidelity is revealed at birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:14 AM
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Do you think that's a trait that is seen more in women then men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:12 AM
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What experience will it cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:09 AM
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And what impact is a mandatory DNA test that proves infidelity going to have on a newborns life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:06 AM
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Yes, building self worth is hard. It requires self reflection, openness to new ideas, and humility. Women didn't ask to be the motivation for men's development of self worth and we do not deserve to be blamed and demonized for men's short comings
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:19 AM
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Building self-worth is the key. If you can commit to something enough to get good at it then you have proven to yourself that your worth lies in your effort and not in unchangeable things. Not everything is about getting dates. Men are worthy of a high quality life regardless of whether they can get a date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:55 AM
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interesting point and I can see the detriment of disenfranchisement. Ultimately no one responds well to desperation no matter your gender. Someone who is willing to do anything to get something from you provokes negative reactions in general. This is why the whole "get a hobby" advice is so common. The hobby isn't the important factor. Its mostly advice to stop obsessing over something in an unhealthy way that people are trying to provide guidance for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:34 AM
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Or he's a witch. Your theory makes sense. Mine is more fun. Pick your poison
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:30 AM
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Why are you giving away your secrets!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:06 AM
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So the solution is don't be yourself, close yourself off emotionally, and do what you hate? Are we sure the problem is with the advice and not the interpretation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:05 AM
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You can do better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:29 AM
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You're inability to infer meaning from written text
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:19 AM
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No you didn't say much. Mostly you are just dissenting like a bratty middle schooler rather than contributing to the conversation. Hence the tendency to allude to the point rather than stating it outright. I don't blame you, it takes courage to state what you think clearly, most people struggle with that so don't feel insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:10 AM
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But I care! I can't tell you how thrilled I am to hear a reasonable take from a dude on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:07 AM
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I see! None of the guys on here are going to believe you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:05 AM
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Oh I see, you are comparing this the statistics regarding SA or murder (of women by men). You are saying that the data proves that women have nothing to worry about from strangers and should therefore not be so stringent when it comes to accepting dates or intimate interactions from people they don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:01 AM
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fare is fair but bare is not bear
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:57 AM
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And what would you attribute your success in getting dates to? Are you a six foot tall billionaire?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:54 AM
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Oh so I should leave my door unlocked? Pick up hitchhikers? Allow strangers to have access to my personal information?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:53 AM
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So its a cold approach with a random stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:51 AM
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Good for you! I pay for dates tho tbh. But then again I make sure I don't go on dates with complete strangers from the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:50 AM
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Can I ask you about the last date you were on? Where did you meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:48 AM
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Do you accept easy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:45 AM
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Ok, we can ignore that he is literally generalizing his experience based on outliers (which he said is something only women do) to address your point about the validity of dating app data. Lets start here. how many women use dating apps in comparison to men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:44 AM
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you said so little and yet said .....so little
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:41 AM
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It is always possible to verify a person before agreeing to an intimate interaction with them. In an online forum like this, the actual barriers men face regarding social interactions with women are routinely omitted leaving the rest of us to try and diagnose the symptom without all the essential information
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:40 AM
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But then men that don't view women as sexual objects are also punished for just existing just as women who don't see men as secondary wallets are punished by men leading them on for sex with them and calling it off. This is exactly the flaw with all these "Women do this!..." Or "Men are this way..." We all have a personal responsibility to vet the people we choose to engage in. You can take that one of two ways, either people are responsible for the repercussions of the choices they make, or peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:36 AM
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One of the main ways to vet women on dates is to get separate orders. or get to know the woman before going on a date with her. There's no way of knowing if a woman expects men to pay for dates and to be put on a pedestal until you go on a date with her. There is a way to know who she is. Conversations, mutual friends gatherings, sharing information over the course of a period of time. You are not required to go on a date with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:26 AM
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Did you bother doing research before presenting an opinion like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:06 AM
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Oh that's so interesting. Is this based on evidence or your direct observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:02 AM
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A man who didn't feel overly confident in himself in the pre-civilizationary times was a goner and potential detriment to his species/tribe Wot? Based on which civilizations? This very much seems like you made it up on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:58 AM
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except this is a symptom of men not vetting the women they go on dates with. I wonder, have you ever judged someone who experienced consequences directly related to their deliberate actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:55 AM
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I would not date her anywhere! How oh how did she get my hair? This is simply just to much to bear!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:46 PM
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My bad, sounds like you got it figured out. Good talk and good luck with all those women you've dated and will continue to date. Have a good one sir
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:39 PM
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What? No one is entitled to sex? I don't think I understand your question, can you provide more context?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:38 PM
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Women get implants and would never admit that, sometimes even after a man has felt them. They do, women who get fake boobs talk about it and usually their partners are down with it. ​ Women don’t sit at a 3rd date or warn a guy “hey, just so you know, I’m wearing a padded push up bra. My breasts actually look like 2 egg yolks in ziplock bags.” That's not really how those bras work and again I don't think a lot of men would claim to be so upset about finding out the boobs are slightly smaller und…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:26 PM
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ya, that was a rough read lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:51 PM
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You said this in the other comment, women are pretty open about all those things. So if it was presented in the same light, where he openly talked about his 'enhancements' (still love the Ken doll thing btw) then it would come off in a completely different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:51 PM
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Yes also I love this part of your post the most Worse, he excused himself to use the bathroom and when he came back out, that noticeable bulge in his jeans is now as flat as a Ken doll. He had something in there to enhance it. It wasn't necessary but it paints a hell of a picture
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:49 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18eniq2/comment/kcsthu7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 They've been stewing on this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:47 PM
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Rampant entitlement, a complete lack of empathy and no ability to discern severity levels on a case by case basis is shockingly common these days. There are a plethora of reasons as to why someone might not disclose their sexual preference and the fact that you immediately jump to believing that anyone doing so is an immoral monster on par with a rapist is very disturbing. Its this frenzied addiction to righteous judgement that leads to exactly the behavior you are pre-emptively criticizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:36 PM
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Sounds like it can be fun or hell!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:20 AM
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So you clearly live in a place where it snows, I can't relate but as far as landscaping, women either figure it out or hire someone. Just like men. I have fixed many many appliances and other household related things thanks to daddy youtube
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:44 AM
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Women living alone assess this risk all the time. That's why we are hypervigilant about locking doors and maintaining self defense options in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:42 AM
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Weed-wacking related injuries are no joke!!!! Also watering the lawn can be hazardous Its a slippery slope
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:35 AM
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Can you list the OUTSIDE work you are talking about? Like mowing the lawn or?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:32 AM
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What does being more selective mean in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:27 AM
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What does it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:24 AM
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And for women to provide a healthy environment they must be more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:18 AM
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There’s not a difference in motivation, the motivation is to effectively reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:09 AM
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No difference? So women and men should both sleep with as many people as possible because the goal is reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:07 AM
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There is a difference in social and biological motivations for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:04 AM
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So why the hyper focus on women acknowledging men's problems with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:01 AM
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huh... maybe men should compare themselves to men in dating because of the biological and social differences men and women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:59 AM
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I have a harder time building muscle because of my body doesn't produce testosterone. Should I compare myself to men to solve this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:44 AM
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Loud and clear
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:35 AM
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Thanks for your response
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:39 AM
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Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:39 AM
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Perfect response, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:45 AM
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I was talking about what a healthy dialogue might look like. Some women do this, but if that's what you hate why would you emulate that behavior? In this scenario you should have no more respect for yourself than you do for the women who do the same. There are women here who are willing to talk and listen to your point of view but asking them to read paragraph after paragraph about how much you hate them and how shitty they are and still have an open mind about your struggles is a little delusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:57 AM
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Oh I see! Well good to know, thanks for your input
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:13 AM
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I'm not questioning the value of validation. I am asking if they want that validation from men, or women, or both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:08 AM
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People like/prefer when their issues are validated Who do you want to validate your issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:58 AM
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I mean I get that but extending knowledge to someone else shouldn't come in such aggressively hateful ways. If I were to go to my rich friend and try to explain how difficult it is to be poor and I started the conversation like this, "People like you hate me. You will never understand what I go through but you sneer at me and look down on me like I am a piece of shit!!!! All of you do in fact, everyone you know who is like you is just as much of a narcissistic prick as you are. First of all you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:26 AM
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I’m sorry but what ever your thoughts on men and women and power dynamics the point I’m making is that things like paternity tests and go bags are things individuals have to decide on depending on the people involved and their experience. Why is this such an offensive take
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:32 PM
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Not gonna read all that, you want me to save it you can too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:18 PM
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When I get a minute I’ll link the post about it so you can read the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:50 PM
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If a man wants a paternity test he should make that clear to his partner before they chose to have kids. Men on here say a paternity test is something they are entitled to Women on here say that when men ask for paternity tests it relays a message of distrust. Men say no it doesn’t, but also don’t want to ask so they say it should be mandatory for all women Women say you should be responsible for asking for a paternity test because it’s a relationship by relationships basis All caught up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:32 PM
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You’re telling me you don’t understand the context of a common back and forth argument that happens on this sub? Are you new to this sub or are you pretending to not understand because being obstinate is easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:18 PM
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And again, that’s an opinion you’re allowed to have about your relationship. I think you are missing a big part of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:11 PM
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Im not sure if you know by men on here routinely say mandatory paternity testing at birth should be a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:04 PM
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Good point! Have a good night
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:48 AM
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Did they mention an oasis?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:46 AM
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If a guy from my pottery class I’ve exchanged glances with one or two times randomly came up and asked me out on a date ill tell you the honest truth. If I was already attracted to him, yes that would make a difference. There is a myriad of things that go into attraction though. And before you say, oh Chad! I’ve met “Chad”. I’ve met a ton of chads. They annoy the shit out of me. The frat boy with the stupid haircut who thinks he’s funny because his friends are dumbasses but get super pissy when …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:43 AM
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1: I know this man 2: I’ve never spoken to this man before in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:05 AM
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Good for you, but it sounds like a you situation, absolutely no reason to force your views on you and your partners values on anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:53 AM
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So if your partner communicates their concerns and involves you in the decision making process there’s no issue? Like we don’t have to mandate state go bags?? It can just be a case by case basis that depend on the individual relationship and the people involved!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:34 AM
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Lol so the woman in this scenario is in fact a stranger tho right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:29 AM
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Cold = I don’t know this man, hot= we know each other
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:07 AM
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For a natural disaster right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:04 AM
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Ya gotta expand bro? What do you mean help her pack it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:00 AM
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Haha. That is actually exactly what I meant , women find it suspicious when you’re prepared for natural disasters
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:55 AM
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So I’m guessing your one of those guys who would have no issue if they found a go bag their partner prepared
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:41 AM
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Its an incredible metaphor, what a perfectly stated point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:09 AM
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Are you thinking of a cold approach when you say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:02 AM
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Well women are making that choice more and more and wow look at that. Birthrates are declining. Do you think shitting on women who get pregnant and showing to all women that they are going to be completely alone if they have a kid has anything to do with that lol Maybe you guys should get on here and talk more about how men shouldn't have to pay child support and how women should have mandatory tests to prove the paternity of their kids more often and see if that helps women look at being a moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:56 AM
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Here is an interesting video that discusses the declining birthrate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:52 AM
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Hold on I have to read them all….. hey…. Wait a minute…. I see what you did there you Wiley coyote!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:31 AM
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Ohhhh ya no good point. I love reading your stance over and over again while you refuse to back it up with evidence. I think one or two more times if you repeating yourself and ignoring all the other things I pointed out and I will come around. Maybe try bringing it back to the Pete Davidson thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:27 AM
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Wow you really think you have a gotcha with the Pete Davidson thing don’t you. Is that why you’re desperately clinging to that argument while avoiding all the other glaring issues with your argument. I get it. You have no other evidence to back up your stance but it’s directly tied to your identity so there’s nothing I can say
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:20 AM
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A dancing monkey with a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:16 AM
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Well good luck out there man. Sorry I used Pete Davidson as an example, there was a whole slew of memes making fun of him for getting hot chicks so I didn’t know he was a god compared to the average male. I think you guys are way off base here and it’s harmful rather than helpful to blindly believe this rhetoric. I mean I provided examples, personal experiences, and studies that show the complexity of attraction and you’ve provided…. That stupid tinder article that you guys cannot stop obsessing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:02 AM
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Way to dismiss the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:52 AM
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ok. You dismissed my personal experience. You dismissed the fact that Pete Davidson is not that hot but gets girls like Kim even when he is competing against actual male supermodels, insanely attractive actors and millionaires. How about this? Although men are rated as more attractive by women when they meet these physical appearance standards too, their overall judged attractiveness isn't as tightly linked to their physical features." Results were in line with the previous findings and showed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:34 AM
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There is a lot of talk on it mostly stemming from this article but its a difficult one to research. Not a lot of studies done to compare it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:16 AM
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So yes? No? that was a weird pivot away form my question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:14 AM
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Duh. I just said that. Objectively speaking women don't find men attractive. Its their personality that sways their interest. I've met hot guys that acted like douches and found my attraction for them completely die. I have met guys I wouldn't look twice at on the street and due to their personality they became VERY attractive. I had the hugest crush on Pete Davidson before he dated Kim and my friend made fun of me because she said he had butt hold eyes. But those butt holes eyes were nothing co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:12 AM
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how about male rapes? That's a pretty hot topic on this sub, male rapes and abuse at the hands of women. You view those claims with the same scrutiny?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:44 AM
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I'd dip if I ever found a secret go bag with cash in it ready to bounce Ya, when a partner implies that you can't be trusted its a pretty big deal huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:39 AM
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glad to be of service!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:35 AM
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Its red herring. It was never about women finding men less attractive and more about what they find attractive in men. News flash, men will never be as pretty as women, y'all got hair all over your face and big noses and ears and stuff. That's why you need the razzle dazzle. Women love the razzle dazzle
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:55 AM
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You heard him! Father and Grandfather and bells and shit! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:48 AM
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lol I can't even be mad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:18 AM
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Do you guys ever think to research stuff like this even just a little bit before you make these posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:40 AM
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So here's what you do, if you don't trust her make sure you get a paternity test. Clearly the importance of the paternity test is a very important factor in the health and wellbeing of the child and for the sake of fairness when it comes to your financial responsibility. That's part of being an adult is taking precautions for risks you deem serious. I still do not see the justification for mandatory paternity tests. Can you find other examples of mandatory screening for something this trivial an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:01 PM
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So you are for child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:52 PM
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Do you have a source for those numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:50 PM
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Ya… that argument doesn’t quite have the ring you want it to when your main reason for a paternity test revolves around abandoning the child and mother if the kid isn’t yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:42 PM
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So you’re concerned about the child having access to this type of information because your main point is the safety and well being of the child right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:41 PM
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He is not longer required to pay child support if a test proves he isn't the father later on and there are repercussions for the mother in this event. Are you a doctor? You have no idea what you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:43 PM
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1: Social pressure? You mean not wanting to admit you don't trust your wife? That's not social pressure. That's a decision you have to make for yourself based on your specific situation, not something you should push on everyone else. 2: If the mother did cheat I would rather she and the baby get through the pregnancy healthily. There is a time and place for paternal testing and its not that big of a deal to wait until both mother and newborn aren't high risk and already going through serious li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:35 PM
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1: Consent of all individuals need to be factored, when you say mandatory, what penalties will the father face is he refuses? If opting out is going to be acceptable then there is no problem with our current system of opting in. 2: The tests conducted during pregnancy and right after birth are used to assess the health of the infant and mother to ensure a safe pregnancy. A father wanting to know if the kid is his is no ones responsibility to pay for or provide. The undue stress that this 'test' …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:17 PM
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Ya the unsaid part of this conversation is that there’s been advocacy on this sub for mandatory state paternal testing. It would be just as outrageous as mandatory state funded go bags
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:26 PM
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“Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:06 PM
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If I heard that a guy left his partner because he found a go bag I would probably jump to the conclusion that there were issues in the relationship that were already present before he found the go bag Same with a paternity test, if I found out a friend demanded a paternity test from his wife I would immediately think, oh he thinks she’s cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:00 PM
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And if that is your fear you have every right to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:56 PM
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I would need to know these people to make that kind of judgement, I would need way more information before I jump to a “they should…” statement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:54 PM
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So explain, what did I miss
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:51 PM
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The go bag is something she prepares herself. She might also have to deal with the consequences of her partner feeling hurt. Same with paternity tests. If this is something you legitimately fear you should get one but you then have to deal with potential negative consequences as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:50 PM
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Let’s be real here, the paternity test thing isn’t about medical disorders for the guys who argue for it here on this sub. Relationships are complex and personal, some people might want to get a paternity test or prepare a go bag but at the end of the day that decision is theirs and they will deal with the process of completing the action and potentially the consequences themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:48 PM
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I don’t know to be honest. I feel like it’s a fine line and I definitely think some guys are just being friendly when they are in fact trying to flirt. There an escalation of teasing that I think happens with. Flirting where you test the waters with jokes and picking on each other back and forth but again it’s about the long game. As far as picking chicks up for a one night stand, that’s never been my thing so I have no clue. I’ve never had a one night stand and I hate clubs and bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:16 AM
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They sound like jerks to be fair. I know girls like that and I don't like to be around them either, I can see why that experience would sour you in some ways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:31 AM
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Fair enough, thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:22 AM
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Can you give me a example? Like where you saw a woman at a social event like this and you or your friend tried to a strike up a conversation and she dismissed you in favor of the chads? I don’t mean to put you on the spot but the context would help me understand the full picture better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:08 AM
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No, there’s a difference. When guys flirt it’s feels like they genuinely like you, when they hit on you it feels like they will lose all interest in you if you turn them down. Flirting is building a friendship. Hitting on is a proposition to that has a direct prerequisite. If one is not looking for a relationship on which side? Like a man who wants to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:05 AM
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The only women there are Chad chasing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:55 AM
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Flirting is warm, personal, and light hearted. You kind of have to know the person to be able to flirt. It’s like building a friendship where you learn more and more about the other person through conversation and light teasing. Hitting on is targeted, impersonal and direct. Being hit on usually means being put on the spot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:48 AM
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And there it is. The video game one actually pisses me off pretty bad. I only go to conventions and sports to find chads? Not to enjoy myself? Why would any woman want to get to know a guy who thinks that about them. God I can only imagine trying to reach out to a guy about what I thought was a shared interest only to have him turn his nose up at me and go, you couldn’t be interested in this stuff. You’re just a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:39 AM
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But it’s obvious. Sincerity is a crazy important trait. No one wants to be with some who they think has unspoken and ulterior motives. And girls absolutely do love video games and other male dominated stuff, I literally just went to a Comic-Con and before that an anime convention. Sports, are you kidding me? There are a ton of girls who are into sports. I’ve been to plenty of games with my girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:31 AM
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Hmmm ya no I’m more receptive to flirting if I find the guy attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:24 AM
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No, do you do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:22 AM
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Well sounds like it’s not your fault but everyone else’s. I’ll spread the word and we will get back to you about solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:21 AM
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and you bypassed the fact that this guy took 3 months to cultivate a relationship with me before he even asked me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:19 AM
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Women deserve it! I am being treated unfairly tho so I don't need to take any accountability!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:19 AM
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sigh. It does though. This is a personal anecdote so take it for what it is but I laugh all the time about how I always hesitated showing pictures of the guy I had a crush on to my female friends because I knew they wouldn't think he was cute until they met him. This is a crazy recent example, I saw the lead singer of Panic at the Disco in a video and between the voice and lyrics I started to develop a crush. Found interviews with him and developed a hyper focus a little. I tried to share this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:18 AM
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They might just have the same insecurities as you. I think they key is looking at them as people with the same insecurities, hopes, and issues as you have. Like we all want a connection
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:14 AM
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but I gotta say, he isn't 'super' attractive. Personality plays a huge role in woman's attraction to men and he is quick on his feet and charms the shit out of everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:12 AM
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Yes, I find the man I chose to date attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:10 AM
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and were you genuinely interested in any of these things or were you using these peoples interests and hobbies as a means to gain access to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:10 AM
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Women can complain about their specific problems in dating without you taking it as a direct pity party competition. In fact the biggest problem is the rampant hate on women in these subs. Would you say the things to a woman you are trying to date as you have said to me here? If the answer is yes. There is your problem If the answer is no, why do you blame women for being turned of by the insincere nature of your whole approach? Anyone would be. If I were your 'friend' and anytime I came around …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:08 AM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:03 AM
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What groups!!! lol this is always the issue. Did you try to join a group because you had a genuine interest in that groups focus?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:01 AM
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ya when you view a sub group of people in such a light it's difficult to rationalize anything they do. The ironic part is that you accuse women of making themselves out to be victims when you are here crying that you can't get women, not through any fault of your own, but because women and chads are evil forces that.....victimize you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:58 PM
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Social circles. You get to know the person before you try to have sex with them. City league sports, co-workers, college class mates, gym, etc. And I know what you are thinking. No one wants to be hit on in these places and no they don't. That's why you develop repour first. I met my current boyfriend after flirting back and forth at work with him for about 3 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:52 PM
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trolling would be dismissing relevant information that addresses the multiple and complex factors involved in a societal phenomenon by blaming a 'Chad' what do you call it when you troll the troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:48 PM
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Dammit Chad!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:40 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:06 PM
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non strangers mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:43 PM
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But it’s enough to keep them in school and to avoid becoming a child bride.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:03 PM
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what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:42 PM
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It always blows my mind that men will complain about women not wanting then and in the same breath call them heartless monsters who are incapable of rational thought or accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:32 PM
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Education plays a factor but the higher quality of life and autonomy that comes with that education should be considered as well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:30 PM
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That's true! So when women are able to choose to have kids or not have kids they choose not to. But the funny thing is, women want more kids than they have. I think adjusting the workplace to be less hostile towards caregivers is the ultimate solution is we want to see birth rates start rising again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:28 PM
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Ya, like, it's not that we don't want to be approached by normal men, we don't want to be approached by strange men. Cold approach is pretty difficult to navigate for men who are charismatic let alone men who lack confidence in talking to women. I react negatively to any stranger who randomly tries to engage me in conversation when I am shopping, working out, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:18 PM
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Well then what will work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:48 PM
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Right? Or if we were to refer to the average woman here as a cold hearted monster who is only interested in rich chads and being as much of a whore before 25 as she possibly can! We can't be using examples like this to make our argument if we want to maintain the dignity of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:29 PM
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Right!? This sub is no place for trashy people ☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:12 PM
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Im so sorry to hear that your experiences were so awful. As far as the body count and relationship success part, it isn’t really my opinion, it’s a study, it’s cited pretty often on this sub. obviously there are a myriad of factors that play into the success of long term relationships but higher body counts tend to negatively impact relationships in both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:09 PM
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I’ve seen that before but I believe there’s a inverse when you go up in a age brackets suggesting that women are dating older men, not just sharing one guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:11 PM
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Complain if it’s so upsetting bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:04 PM
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If you can’t back it up you shouldn’t say it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:50 AM
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What did the research from these apps say about how many women are actually using these apps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:12 AM
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Haha I’ll bite. How do you know
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:59 AM
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No you’re right lol And you said it earlier too, I should have listened
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:43 AM
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One of your female acquaintances had 7 . Is that what you’re going off of? One chick your don’t even know well enough to call a friend? I’ve had 2. My best friend, 4. The average for early 20s is 4-8. Is that enough of a number to throw the whole person away?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:42 AM
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I mean i think we agree on most points here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:37 AM
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No I know you said #noshamethough right after you said people should wait for marriage to have sex. Let me ask you this, should a date ask for your bank account info on the first date? When you meet a girl would you feel comfortable is she said, “are you a virgin??” Before she got to know you at all? Dating shouldn’t be like a job interview. Prioritize the human . Why am I having to justify this point so hard
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:23 AM
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But most people don’t have 10+ partners. That’s the thing, we are placing so much emphasis on trying to find out other peoples sexual history it ruins making connections. Get to know the person, their sexual history is none of your business until you’ve developed enough of a relationship with them that you have the right to know about that very personal and private part of their life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:16 AM
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You wanting someone who is a virgin isn’t a problem. Society shaming men and women about sex is a problem. As long as you’re preferences aren’t used as a tool for shaming those who don’t match them, there’s no problem. The fact is, you shouldn’t base your judgement of a potential partner on sex right off the bat. Making human connection should come first, if later you find out that they aren’t a virgin and that is a deal breaker, that’s fine but categorizing people by their sexual history is wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:14 AM
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No I am not vilifying preferences. I think its healthy and natural for us all to have them. I just think societies focus on virginity and body count is unhealthy and we need to move away from that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:52 AM
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well you could say that for the guy in the thread I linked as far as relationship status
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:42 AM
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Ya vaping and alcohol aren’t a fundamental part of human life. The healthier thing would be to accept that sex isn’t on par with abusing drugs. I’ve only had 2 partners so please know that I’m not just defending my own promiscuity, I genuinely think we should not vilify sex among consenting adults and especially on the religious grounds that marriage is based on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:59 AM
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that's such a perfect analogy lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:37 AM
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Yes, for both men and women higher body counts lead to less success in long-term relationships. The problem is most men and women don't have those crazy high body counts but every talks about it as if its a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:36 AM
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Thank you, it means a lot to me to hear that! I find when you actually have a conversation about this stuff we all tend to agree with each other more than anything. Social media promotes reactivity and that's too bad. We have a lot to learn from each other
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:29 AM
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I sincerely wish you the best. Conversations like this matter. Internet conversations can only go so far so I hope this doesn't sound insincere but you absolutely matter and are wanted and I hope you can find success. You deserve to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:15 AM
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thanks for saying so, at the end of the day when we stand together we accomplish more
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:09 AM
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So fat women don't want to work for the men that they want... Funny you say that https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17t0yvk/comment/k8u5esv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:58 PM
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Your fears are valid and I wouldn't ever suggest that you go out of your comfort zone especially considering the trauma you've experienced in regards to this very thing but there's got to be a way for you to socialize. I went to a Christmas party with a friend of mine last year and 3 men that she works with DMed me within a week, 2 of which were married. After telling the married guys that I wasn't interested and after chatting back and forth with the other guy before deciding he wasn't for me I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:56 PM
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Guys prefer virgins. Guys are mad that women are more selective now that they have the ability to provide for themselves. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:45 PM
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I see, and I get it all of these factors seem so overwhelming and are so ingrained into our society, it's like you never stood a chance. What do you think would help now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:35 PM
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fuck that sucks. I wish I could add more to this conversation but I am not even sure what I would do in this situation. If you had to pick one thing, what do you think would help you? And lets be clear, the problem you have isn't insignificant. Bonding with other humans is so fucking important. What support do you wish you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:32 PM
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What do you wish had been different when you were a teenager? Like if you had to pinpoint one or two things, what do you think would have helped if anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:24 PM
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I am so sorry. This is a perfect example of why men's mental health should be a focus in our society now more than ever. It sounds like a vicious cycle. You feel unwanted, your motivation to try to improve your physical appearance decreases, you feel even more unwanted, pattern repeats. I hate that you feel that way because you don't deserve to. Personally, my sex drive is completely dependent on how sexy I feel. I do not know what would happen to my mental health if I didn't feel desired, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:20 PM
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You say you internalized that feeling, has anything changed? Do you still feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:11 PM
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Socializing is crazy important when it comes to relationships. Like humans are communal and social by nature. Its crazy to expect positive results when some guys only scamper out of their dwellings to find women to sleep with and then scamper back when they're rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:44 PM
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Incredible, please run for office
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:39 PM
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No lol. Don't 'just stop feeling that' Your emotions are valid and society absolutely places undue stress and judgement on both men and women about sex. Talking about this stuff is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:37 PM
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only women who sleep with 300 men are slut shamed? That's good news! Lets an insane amount of women off the hook
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:36 PM
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Lol let him cook
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:25 PM
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Oh. So do you want a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:22 PM
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No no! I think you’re spot on. None of these guys represent the dudes I actually know in two life and I think it lends credence to your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:20 PM
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But isn’t that true for you with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:19 PM
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I see what you mean. I think there’s definitely merit to that. Men are expected to be the adult in the room even though they are experiencing the same fears and uncertainties of women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:10 PM
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So me being able to work means I can have sex with the men I want to have sex with (currently my bf)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:06 PM
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Oh wow “actually socialize with women and make themselves attractive to them” This is a perfect explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:02 PM
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But I do choose to. I like men and I want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:00 PM
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I get you! I’m glad we are having conversations like this, I think it’s a step in the right direction but man progress on stuff like this can seem so slow
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:59 PM
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The sense of accomplishment I feel for working a meaningful job and the ability to have freedom with my choices and money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:57 PM
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I don’t know man. I wasn’t patted on the head for getting my drivers license, degrees, etc. I’ve been patted on the head and praised for being pretty/sexy but never for the stuff I actually had to work for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:56 PM
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Women only have chemistry with 5% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:53 PM
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Lol ok why would i hate men so much that I’d rather work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:47 PM
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I hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:42 PM
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Ya I think its because this whole virginity thing is a hyperfocus that is unhealthy for both sexes. Someone's sex life is no ones business, especially not their first time. I think we should normalize not shaming men for being a virgin. I think we shouldn't use the word incel anymore But with that needs to come the de-shaming of sex in general. This means girls too. People are pretty obsessed with body counts and women are the ones who get that backlash Maybe we should all have a healthier outlo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:41 PM
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Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:29 PM
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So women are choosing to work hard and have more responsibility? Why would so many women choose this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:28 PM
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How interesting. Ya I can see how that would be very complex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:37 PM
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I agree. What would gender equality look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:31 PM
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Health, life expectancy, education, happiness. These are all things men seem to fall behind on in our society. What do you think is the cause? What could we do to solve this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:27 PM
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I’m willing to talk about it, nothings ever black and white. Which examples am I passing over and do you really think money and power don’t equate to privilege generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:05 PM
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2021/09/17/the-economic-benefits-of-extending-permanent-legal-status-to-unauthorized-immigrants/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:28 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:44 AM
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Good talk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:36 AM
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Ya that’s not why I said that and you know it. But have fun simplifying things and o make it easier for yourself to swallow. Women bad! Men good! Thank god you got that cleared up for us. How does it feel being so morally superior to everyone else? Is the weight crushing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:32 AM
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And how does that equate to men having to worse? So in the spirit of good faith I will say, men are expected to shut up about issues, men are dismissed when it comes to abuse and sexual assault. This type of invisibility is absolutely detrimental to men over all (and ultimately negatively impacts our society). The problem is it’s other men that have a pretty heavy influence on this. Women too, to be sure, but criminal prosecutors, judges, law makers, police, etc. are more likely to be men so the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:29 AM
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Privilege can be quantified directly into the amount of influence you have in any given society. Money and political power can be tied pretty clearly to influence and privilege here. The problem I think your having is that you can’t quantify what you assume to be female privilege (getting as much cock as you want doesn’t really relate to power like you guys think it does)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:19 AM
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Money equals power. Political representation equals power, in what way is this not significant?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:56 AM
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Jesus dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:50 AM
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So I actually have done quite a bit research on immigration (including the illegal kind) for college papers and it’s impact on the us economy. Do you wanna maybe hurry and do some research before you talk to me about it or should we jump right in?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:31 AM
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And to be quite frank, to keep us on topic, I don’t think this is a great example, do you have any others?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:16 AM
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Do you think that there might have been behind the scene factors that played into her value as an actor that had more to do with her marketability, acting ability, and role acquisition? I mean i love the kid who played Ron but I have a hard time saying he’s as talented as Emma Watson
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:14 AM
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I mean illegal immigration is a very red herring issue. Our government is happy to take advantage of illegal immigrants while simultaneously riling people up about how “bad” they are . I find it interesting that you as a libertarian would buy into that capitalist propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:12 AM
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Sure and I see it too, but with an ever changing work environment and women being able to contribute to society in a bigger way than ever, we should adapt to that, but that’s just my opinion. I would have to do a lot more research to discuss the point further
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:00 AM
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Oh I’ve never heard that, do you have any sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:59 AM
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So you think Emma watsons value was solely based on her being a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:58 AM
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Ok and what would be the deal breaker for a prospective partner as far as their beliefs go
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:57 AM
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Good points, I can agree with a lot but I think ultimately making the workplace less hostile towards women would help us utilize the skills the bring to the table
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:53 AM
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And I appreciate your opinion but do you have any actual examples of this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:37 AM
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Fair enough. And thank you for acknowledging that, it nice to see a man not downplaying women’s roles. Yes men are utilized like meat shields and this is evident in history. However wars no longer involve ground armies like they use to so I think even that dynamic has changed. Also female dominated fields tend to have an Imbalance in regards to management. The majority of teachers are women, the majority of super intendants are men, the majority of nurses are women, the majority of nurse manager…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:36 AM
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Can you give me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:25 AM
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Men work more physically demanding and dangerous jobs. I don’t think denying is good for our society and trying to minimize these roles has been and is damaging to our society. But women can make meaningful contributions to society now more than ever. However even in jobs where physical strength doesn’t play a factor, men still hold higher positions and wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:25 AM
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Whatever the reasoning behind it, there’s no denying that with those corporate jobs, higher wages, and power in politics comes more privileges
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:22 AM
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Expand, I’m wiling to hear it, how do men have it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:16 AM
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Lol it sure is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:15 AM
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Don’t forget, we have the privilege of getting a c”@&. Crammed into us anytime we want. What could be better than that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:09 AM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:08 AM
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It’s not hard to quantify. All presidents have been male. Males dominate corporate representation, men make way more money than women over all. The whole, but women can get stuffed whenever isn’t a compelling argument lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:06 AM
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Objectively speaking, men have more representation in politics, higher average earnings, and a higher representation in higher up corporate roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:03 AM
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Interesting. I’m assuming you are right leaning. Is this part of your exclusion process? What values does a woman have to have to have to make the cut for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:37 AM
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I don’t think this is common
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:19 AM
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What do you want think is the problem? Are there no women who are right leaning or conservative?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:17 AM
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I know haha I was just screwing around
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:57 AM
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I don’t even spend 300 dollars on skin care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:39 AM
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You capitalized Common like it was a name. Who’s this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:38 AM
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Sweet let’s go. I’m so fucking bored lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:37 AM
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I don’t know man. I know zero dudes that meet that standard and I know many dudes in a full blown relationship or who actively date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:37 AM
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Fair points. No shame to men and women who want one night stands btw. If you’re not looking for sex with no ties it is what it is but ya I think there’s gotta be a more rigorous standard for people who actually want relationships and that’s not a value that’s prioritized in modern dating. Dating apps are viciously superficial and social media encourages division because it’s a sick circus of entertainment with no oversight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:19 AM
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Really? I mean i know plenty of women who take care of themselves, hell I’m one of them. Also getting dick at that size… like… dick isn’t that great and anyone can tell you that being fit and healthy has way more benefits than that he ability to be stuffed by mediocre dick lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:53 PM
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Your right. That’s not a high bar to meet. What’s standing in your way? And I’m not being felicitous, i actually want to know what the barriers are here because I don’t know what it’s like to be a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:37 PM
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This might be true. I’ve seen unnecessary scrutiny placed on men in some situations to be sure. Without specific context I can’t argue this really. I would have to make assumptions about you that I clearly couldn’t possibly know to counter your statement. So here’s what I will say. You deserve to have standards just as women do. You deserve to be selective with who you date just as women do. You do not deserve to shame, humiliate, or verbally harass women who don’t meet those standards. The wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:32 PM
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Access to sex seems to reign supreme when it comes to the standards put in place by you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:20 PM
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All of the things!!! Yes!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:00 PM
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Ya, maybe there needs to be a push for men valuing themselves like there’s been a push for women to do so. Sometimes I think it’s the pressure to sleep with as many women as possible that makes things hard for men. We need to stop pretending like genuine human connection isn’t important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:49 PM
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Ya, maybe there needs to be a push for men valuing themselves like there’s been a push for women to do so. Sometimes I think it’s the pressure to sleep with as many women as possible that makes things hard for men. We need to stop pretending like genuine human connection isn’t important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:49 PM
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Hmm I see. Do you have any ideas for the causes of this phenomenon and or solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:36 PM
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Which preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:22 PM
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Ya those are all decent takes. Idk man. Kinda just sounds like a lot of people are frustrated because they feel dehumanized in some way or another. This flies in the face of what we all really want which is connection. Fuck the internet. It encourages a lack of humanity in exchange for entertainment. You deserve to be treated like a human being. I sincerely wish you the best
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:22 PM
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I don’t mind if you wanna type it out. I’m here for it if you’re up to it (Reddit can be exhausting so no worries if your over it)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:09 PM
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And I don’t actually expect a sparkly graphic. I was being snarky in response to his snarky
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:06 PM
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I’m not being intentionally dishonest and I resent the implication that I’m trying to cause harm when all I’m trying to do is have a discussion. Can you give me examples of this demonization?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:03 PM
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Would you date a woman you see as beneath you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 10:01 PM
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Yes! Plus graphics. Something sparkly and colorful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:37 PM
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Well I’m not gonna sit here and deny your experience. I believe that you probably deal with a lot of unfairness. To me your preferences sound crazy reasonable. Sorry man, you really do deserve to have a preference and I’ll keep this conversation in mind when talking about stuff like this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:36 PM
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When I was 18 I started dating a hot guy who had a lot of money. He was 24 and played poker for a living. He was fucking insufferable. No sense of humor and a crazy amount of entitlement. I broke it off. The guy I’m with now makes slightly less than me and makes me laugh and values me as a person. I guess it’s just funny to me to read about women are only concerned with dating up when the factors that go into my preferences are super detailed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:34 PM
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Uh ya. Just like I said with the fat guy thing. Just because he’s not my type doesn’t mean I’m going to go around shouting to everyone about how I don’t like fat guys. I guess I am kind of doing that here Ugh even the fact that I’m saying it on here kind of makes me feel bad because I wouldn’t want an overweight guy reading this and thinking “well fuck me i guess”. The point is you can have preferences and still allow people to maintain their dignity even if they don’t match that preference
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:31 PM
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Lol I know it’s true. I’ve experienced exactly what you’re saying, I think I’m a monster who shouldn’t be let out of the house on some days and on others I feel crazy hot. It’s just shockingly amusing to see it put into words
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:28 PM
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No no Im not offended. The straightforwardness of the sentence just surprised me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:26 PM
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Ok so maybe don’t take things people say on the internet to heart? According to this sub I’m a heartless monster who is incapable of loving anyone and only wanting cash as compensation for my lovely presence. I do not let that influence what I do with my dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:25 PM
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But why would anyone call you a misogynist? You can have a preference for women and not go around shouting about that preference and still get to keep that preference. That’s the thing I’m not getting. At what point in searching for a partner who matches your type are you getting shamed? Is it just when you share your opinions online or is it when you turn down a date with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:23 PM
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By who?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:19 PM
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No I’m trying to say having preferences is totally allowed. Men can choose what type of women they want. Let’s say you don’t want a fat chick. Fair enough, I’m not into fat dudes so I get it. But when I let that fat dude down I’m not gonna tell him it’s because he’s fat. I’ll try to spare his feelings and continue on in my search of men who do meet my preferences. Having preferences doesn’t mean you can be rude with impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:18 PM
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Why do you think you aren’t allowed to have preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:14 PM
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Wow. I’m not saying you’re wrong but that is an interesting sentence for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:13 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:59 PM
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Oh sure, I think that’s true. but I’m not quite sure what you mean in regards to the argument. But I didn’t really address your points either. I Can tell you for me, I love to feel sexy and even get looks and I love to not feel sexy sometimes and just wear sweat pants and a big sweater. When I’m in heels and my outfit is super sexy, I expect and even enjoy getting looks. I don’t enjoy men thinking it’s ok to harass me lol. It’s just about behaving in public in a way that values the idea that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:36 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:19 PM
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I don’t like how we completely ignore self accountability in men on this. If you would allow the way someone dresses to dictate how you treat a person it’s a sign of your own mental weakness. You can still be responsible for how you treat people if they aren’t dressed the way you want them to be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 02:47 PM
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Haha my bad. Have a good one stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:02 AM
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Not what you were looking for huh? Well I hope someone on this thread says your opinion out loud for you so you can feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:59 AM
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Man A will get one type of woman and man B will get another. Generally speaking both will be equally successful in finding women who suit their taste and who suit the women’s taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:55 AM
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But like where in general? East coast, west coast, college campuses, workplace, or is this opinion of yours based solely in an online world?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:40 AM
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So options. Makes sense. Obviously you will assume that environment plays a role right? One man might succeed in one environment and fail in another?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:36 AM
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So you’re not violent. You just enjoy seeing women get hurt as long as you think they deserve it. Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:33 AM
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What do you define as success in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:23 AM
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Which guy can make me laugh? It’s the most charismatic guy for me but ultimately it depends on what the woman values in this hypothetical situation. I think I don’t understand some men’s quantity over quality preference, who will get more!!!!??? What about the actual people involved, you ever think they might be looking for genuine connection and companionship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:02 AM
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No it’s everyone. What you’re seeing in women is what we are seeing in men. Lack of personal accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:39 AM
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But have you tried laying food out under a cardboard box propped up by a stick. Here’s the super tricky part, you have to tie a string to that stick and wait out (unseen obviously) until the unsuspecting female ventures by. The type of female you get will depend on type of bait you use. Want a basic white girl, Starbucks obviously. Nerdy girls love video game related bait. Fitness girls can be tricky, I know you think a salad would work but they are a lot more wiley than that, specific protein p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:25 AM
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personally, I just wish women would acknowledge their privilege when it comes to the fact that women get struck by lighting less!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:55 AM
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Another study? Even one more? By anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:10 PM
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Ok, just saying on the report itself single men drop drastically after thirty. They’re dating older men dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:20 AM
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here look at page 17 of the research https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/08/PSDT_08.20.20.dating-relationships.full_.report.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:12 AM
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well you have to take into account those who aren't looking either which the research said was quite a bit. Both young men and young women polled saying they weren't looking for a relationship. Where do they factor into those numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:11 AM
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Ok man. If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:06 AM
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but only 25% of dating apps consist of women and 75% of men. I think they are just not accounting for the 25-29 year old women who are dating 30-35 year old men. I mean isn't it a common thing you guys harp on about with dating younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:05 AM
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Yeah I think so too to some extent. There are also other inconsistencies. Women in general date older men. The study's cut off was 29 I think. That means if 25-29 year old women were dating 30-35 year old men, it would skew the data to say young women are in a relationship without accounting for the 18-29 year old men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:03 AM
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but have you? personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:00 AM
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I just don't think it works out like that. I think if this were the case we would all hear more about it. I think dating apps have skewed the data and we only have one study to go on which may be flawed since its never been replicated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:59 AM
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better than believing it does with zero proof tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:56 AM
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In my circles that goes both ways. If she can't get him to commit she is open to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:51 AM
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Every single woman in my social circle who hasn't gotten a man to commit doesn't stay exclusive to that man either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:50 AM
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No but I believe my own experience. And in the absence of proof on reddit and the absence of proof from others' personal experiences I think its safe to put that notion aside. I certainly wouldn't base my opinion of women on the belief of some elusive Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:49 AM
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Ya that's it. the numbers vary because of the amount of article written on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:47 AM
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from what I can tell there have been an absolute ton of articles based on this study, but when you look into it its just the one study. Very hard to find any info about the actual study or anything behind it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:32 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/08/PSDT_08.20.20.dating-relationships.full_.report.pdf here is the full report. I keep trying to look for more info on it but its a singular study, no replication, not a lot more to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:28 AM
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There are people dying of wars, famine, dictatorship all over the world. Even people from other countries weigh in on reddit to say, Oh ya I have experienced this. But the Chad harem? No one has. Even on this sub there is not one person who has seen this personally
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:24 AM
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Also Autism has a pretty wide spectrum. When we are talking about being socially awkward its one thing but if we are considering this data, women getting more relationships, and it applies to the more severe types of autism its a little concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:54 AM
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I mean I'll bite. Link me that survey
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:43 AM
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I think there's some evidence to suggest Pew misrepresented the data on this though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:39 AM
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nice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:37 AM
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This is a sitcom plot, they guy is using wacky hijinks to keep a date with several different women scheduled at the same time!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:37 AM
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Nice found it Men 18-29 Women 18-29 Committed Only 21% 31% Casual Only 19% 6% Either 60% 63%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:32 AM
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sweet thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:30 AM
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Can you give a more specific link, this is a link to his comments but I would love more info
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:27 AM
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the fact that friendship is also declining among young men. Increase in online time Decrease in social activities like sports and clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:24 AM
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what I am hearing is that 30% of men are successful. The Chad variable can fluctuate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:16 AM
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and also what accounts for the remaining 8%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:06 AM
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sounds reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:01 AM
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I can see that. I would be much more receptive to an argument with statistics like that to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:01 AM
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"You're outlying experience shouldn't be used to represent the majority" I once saw a hawk flying with a snake in it talons. edit: while I was running on a trail. It was directly overhead of me making slow but large circles for about 10 minutes out of my run while I gawked up at it wondering if it was going to drop a half dead snake on me. I don't use this as a warning against people going running
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:59 AM
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lol! Get away from my cornbread
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:55 AM
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yep and yep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:49 AM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:49 AM
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and considering most guys are on social media and refuse to socialize wouldn't it make sense that the 30% of men who are actively interacting with women in public are the ones getting the dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:46 AM
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haha yea human relationships are so complicated. it makes sense though, way more sense than the 10% of chads having a harem lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:44 AM
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but the common argument here is that 1% of men are getting all the attention, or is it 10% of men? Or is it 30% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:43 AM
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so 30% of men are chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:41 AM
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yep. Social verification.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:40 AM
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I get this too, I know guys like this and I usually taking the flirting just to flirt very well. Its fun but it really only happens with guys I know. I can think of a couple of incidents in the last week, one at work and one at a party but I knew both guys. Being approached by a stranger is weird though. I think its just a natural reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:38 AM
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haha ok man. It happened directly after I responded to you on a thread a couple comments deep but no I'm sure it was a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:29 AM
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However this really woulnd't support your 10% of chads getting all the action here. It sounds like 30% of chads are getting 60% of women. Not quite the extreme picture you guys paint it to be
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:27 AM
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ohhhh I see why you downvoted my comment now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:19 AM
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Maybe its because women report being in a relationship because they think they are and men report not being in one because they don't think they are but both parties are chatting and viewing it differently. I know it sounds weird but that's one theory. For instance, before sex a women might consider consistent interaction a relationship while the man doesn't consider it the same way because sex hasn't happened. Also young women dating older guys, or identifying as lesbians, or bi. Either way its…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:09 AM
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Wait but gay guys DO hit on straight guys. The equivalency is based on the idea that a more physically imposing human is directing their unreciprocated and unprompted interest in you in a way that crosses your boundaries and disrupts your day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:43 PM
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How does this work? If women are less likely to find men attractive by looking at them alone, how is this superficial?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:21 PM
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Ok, the chat bot thing is weird but whatever, Sounds like dating isn't an issue for you to be honest. And I was interested in the Konomi thing because I am learning Japanese. Good luck out there!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:18 AM
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All positive interactions I have had with men in the dating realm have not really been like this. There is a back and forth flirting component. I especially like when they tease you a little, and then you tease them back. Nothing makes me happier than when a guy thinks I'm funny and vibes off of the banter. There is always a clear interest in me in these scenarios, and I always have a clear interest in them. I'm WITH you. and your WITH me. IDK though I might be misunderstanding. I want to add an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:00 AM
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No I get that but relationships are often found through social relationships rather than dating apps so I am just trying to understand your exposure to interactions. Tell me what Konami code is?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:51 AM
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It’s easy to make a excuses but I have yet to have a guy on here give me specific examples of social interactions they regularly have outside of work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:27 AM
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Again tho, are you prioritizing in person interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:23 AM
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I'm not sure which part is self defeating here. That you offered examples of how some people just have it good and others don't and there's nothing to be done. Do you think that telling young men that if they aren't incredibly good looking or rich that they should give up is a problem. Every single time I talk to men about how they have tried their luck outside of the internet they will not give me a direct answer All too often, social media and other modern-day factors are reducing face-to-face…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:54 AM
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This is a good equivalent, nice point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:22 AM
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There are documented long term effects of contraceptives, they mostly relate to increased and decreased risks of cancer which isn't as exciting as this theory, I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:12 AM
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Haha I don't know if they can handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:07 AM
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Same! Its probably why we are still here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:05 AM
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Oy it is rough out here lmao. I feel you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:58 PM
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This is just self defeatist. The same guys who say this have experiences strictly related to dating apps and have developed extremely negative and defeatist attitudes. Have you ever been around someone who is overwhelmingly negative? P1: Hey good to see you! How are you!? P2: Not good. P1: Oh no why? P2: Well my grandmother has cancer, I can never catch a break at work, and no body gives a shit about my problems.... P1: ohhh.... Um ok well.. I'm sorry to hear that. Anyway....gotta get the rest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:57 PM
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here for it, I like your arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:53 PM
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Do you have any more info though? You must have gotten this viewpoint from somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:09 PM
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I am sorry to hear that and you are definitely entitled to your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:05 PM
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can you list the strategies that have worked for you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:52 PM
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I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:19 PM
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No problem, ya I still can't find any thing that says the fall was related to women in power. Mostly it talks about slave uprising, population decrease due to wars and a strict citizenship requirements, loss of allies, and the loss of key wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:18 PM
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Thanks for the video but it didn't relate to your point in the slightest. Did you mean to say Sparta because I have read and re-read the Florida thing like 4 times and I don't know how to respond
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:44 PM
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its ok, we all say things we don't necessarily mean in the heat of the moment, I know I friggen do. thank you for coming back and saying this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:38 PM
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Oh interesting, thanks for the info
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:25 PM
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Oh really? I never knew this, can you link some info, I think Ancient Greece is super interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:14 PM
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This IS interesting. Offers quite a bit of insight into the dynamics that we see play out!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:13 PM
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So the importance of chastity is directly related to seafaring and space exploration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:49 PM
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To be fair I might have misconstrued your original comment. Thanks for the sources! I will check them out
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:36 PM
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Gets molested anyways. The only power you females have is snarky tweets clapping back at men AFTER you get le trauma. I'm happy you can get over it quickly not everyone else is that lucky.... and the only time you guys seem to acknowledge our trauma is when you throw it in our faces
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:21 PM
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It's pretty frustrating huh? Do you have any more information you wanna pull out of thin air? I will give you more if you give me more! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:02 PM
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But nobody has the right to relationships or being attractive to the people you want to be attractive to, or having people overlook certain things they don't like and accepting you despite unattractive (according to them) actions you made. Agreed, that's why posts where men complaining about women not wanting them can be so irritating
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:50 PM
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Wait you DONT care about the choices women make in regards to their own sexuality? Oh good! Whew! That's a relief, I'll go tell the other women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:49 PM
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Men have been conditioned to not want this, when in truth it is their literal preference. Should I assume this is based on your extensive research regarding the preference of men that spans across all cultures and societies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:45 PM
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Then men would leave their land to their sons. The Minangkabau pass land through the female line
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:42 PM
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Yes, and if you think about Christianity particularly and how far its influence reaches (Islam and Judaism ) its no wonder that people think this is how it has always been or how it should always be
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:39 PM
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I think its funny that the influence of Christianity's attempt of controlling sexuality is so deeply ingrained in these guys that they believe the doctrine so fully without being able to articulate or think critically about the reason behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:36 PM
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haha ya I figured that's what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:30 PM
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Hence why sex education is essential lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:25 PM
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are you referring to women or dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:24 PM
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I might not be adding to the conversation but there are cultures who have not penalized women for their sexuality. Look into the Mosuo people in China where women could choose and change partners without penalty,, Ancient Egypt where premarital sex wasn't stigmatized, Tahitians before Western contact, Mangaia of the Cook Islands Ancient Mesopotamia held prostitutes in sacred regards I think Religious factors are very much the root of the kind of attitude we see today and The influence of Christi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:22 PM
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He’s complaining about how his natural disadvantages shouldn’t exclude him from the rights of everyone else (or at least he is expressing his frustration about how this plays out ) This is more of a general criticism of the consensus of this sub than an actual reflection of my personal view but women in the same respect to this guys argument are the weaker sex. I’ve seen several posts that argue that a woman’s natural inferiority to men’s strength justifies a man’s expectation of deference from …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:51 AM
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This guys post directly related to the criticism of women that is common in this sub. Why can’t someone whose traits aren’t valued in society get the same respect
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:40 AM
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I understand but in your argument the refugee transported to the West would have adapted to the circumstances surrounding his new life. This guys post focuses on lamenting about one’s current situation. If we can expect immigrants to pull themselves up by their bootstraps what is your explanation of discretion when it comes to an argument like his
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:28 AM
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I feel like there is a direct connection to this opinion, (I can’t control how tall i am, I can’t control how society doesn’t value me, I can’t fight agains an overwhelming negative view on my worth as a person) and the criticism of female contribution to society
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:32 AM
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So I know you probably think my view is that we don't need men in general but that isn't at all true. I am fully aware of the differences in biological strength and I do think men are necessary and, at least for me, wanted in our society. I just don't think biological differences in strength negate the worth that women can have in the workplace. That's all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:07 AM
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I meant opposed to traditional society relationship wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:21 AM
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So I think he meant in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:10 AM
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Haha ya no, unlike you guys am I right
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:03 PM
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Have you informed the FBI?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:01 AM
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Ya man. In so many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:52 AM
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I wonder about the isolation aspect Cigna's 2018 U.S. Loneliness Index found that 46% of Americans reported feeling lonely sometimes or always https://www.cigna.com/assets/docs/newsroom/loneliness-survey-2018-fact-sheet.pdf In 2020, 24.2% of adults aged 18 and over met the 2018 Physical Activity Guidelines for Americans for both aerobic and muscle-strengthening activities. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db443.htm#:~:text=In%202020%2C%2024.2%25%20of%20adults,for%20both%20men%20and%2…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:50 AM
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So what are your conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:43 AM
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ya I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:43 AM
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We are talking about our childhood experiences. Not other children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:41 AM
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Do you believe the majority of young men are actively engaging in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:38 AM
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Forty-nine (33.3%) subjects were diagnosed with schizophrenia, mood disorders or anxiety disorders, and this group needed pharmacotherapy. Other subjects were diagnosed with personality disorders or pervasive developmental disorders, and they mainly needed psycho-social support. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22094722/ we identified the psychological features of “primary hikikomori”, or hikikomori with no obvious mental disorder, as follows: 1) display a tendency to avoid competitive settings; …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:30 AM
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Forty-nine (33.3%) subjects were diagnosed with schizophrenia, mood disorders or anxiety disorders, and this group needed pharmacotherapy. Other subjects were diagnosed with personality disorders or pervasive developmental disorders, and they mainly needed psycho-social support. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22094722/ we identified the psychological features of “primary hikikomori”, or hikikomori with no obvious mental disorder, as follows: 1) display a tendency to avoid competitive settings; …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:29 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314632713_A_Phenomenological_Study_of_Herbivore_Men https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22094722/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ I haven't gone into this in depth but I think there are parallels between the hikikomori in Japan and the decline in dating in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:19 AM
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No problem at all. I know where I am and I don't mind debate. I also know that your personal character isn't directly tied to comments on reddit. You're more than that, just like me. I have no hate for you and I appreciate your disposition here as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:57 AM
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It's ok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:53 AM
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This post is terrible imho. Because the reality is lets say Men from age 18-50 you might come across on streets to around your home from when you are aged 8 or 9 till about 16 is in thousands if not more. I would take a low ball number 5000. So even if 200 of them have made lewd comments or approached with sexual intentions that is still a very very low percentage 4% But your post is aimed at making it look like it's 90% if not 100%. Which is far from reality. Because women don't even consider y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:50 AM
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Ill get over it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:46 AM
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I am probably confused here. This post got wild. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:41 AM
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At what age did you first receive sexual attention from adult men? This was the question. Don't you guys complain about women not taking your problems seriously? You have an awesome opportunity to be the bigger person here and show us how its done
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:40 AM
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Eh no hard feelings. Your welcome. Let me know what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:35 AM
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ya my bad. I guess we did flesh out that conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:30 AM
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Understandable. There were a lot of antagonizing comments on my end too so it definitely impacted the tone I used with you more than it should have
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:27 AM
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Ohhh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:25 AM
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Nevertheless thanks to you for giving a shit. Honestly my capacity to give a shit is waning. This post was rough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:19 AM
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Still no answer huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:15 AM
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https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3246268/department-of-defense-releases-annual-demographics-report-upward-trend-in-numbe/ I mean I am here doing research for you when you continue to treat me terrible. Here you go Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:14 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/160hpwk/comment/jxmq1z6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I am referring to this. A question I asked of YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:07 AM
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I mean at the end of the day this is your post. I started the conversation with genuine intent and the responses I received... I mean you know what they look like. Is this what a genuine conversation when addressing the topics you are concerned about should look like in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:06 AM
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feminine ethics stops them from being greedy douchebags squeezing every ounce of self-interest from mutual or entirely gifted labor for themselves Well since you are presenting the question in such a diplomatic way I have no reason not to invest my time and energy into answering you genuinely. ​ I legitimately wonder if women would have done the same in a matriarchy. In regards to explaining our worth when prompted?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:01 AM
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to be fair, you assumed this was the case from the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:56 AM
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I am not sure if I am capable of using a big word like that...Are are you sure it was me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:55 AM
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I have actually updated my profile to include this requirement. Wish me luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:54 AM
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Oh shit, you know what. I forgot about how boyfriends rub their pheromones on you and other males smell it and are discouraged to attack. Haha omg I can't believe I forgot about that part, woman brain am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:53 AM
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Me sharing my experiences is not a victim card. You want empathy but this is how you act?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:51 AM
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Directly asking women to define their worth was not an attempt to tear people down? I've seen women give little concern for discomfort or anguish of men. Dude... They do when you don't start the conversation with a slap to the face. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15zip3n/comment/jxl3hhq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:49 AM
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I never said they did. But had a man been there it's unlikely to happen and you likely wouldn't have been as fearful dude like three you guys broke your brain here. How would a boyfriend help
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:36 AM
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I wouldn't call you a bitch but seems about right otherwise nice :) Is this how you thought this argument would go?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:35 AM
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If you're jogging at night and don't feel safe, yes your boyfriend would probably join you on that jog for your protection. it was in the day Well hopefully your friends stick together and protect each other in this situation. Are you being genuine or are you bad at insults? ​ I find it weird that you think time travel exist. Also are you saying all of these events happened before you were 12 and you never face a situation after that. Explain to me how having a boyfriend now would help 12 year o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:33 AM
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I actually addressed this in a different post. When the combat military ban against women was lifted, enlistment of women increased. How does this factor in to your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:31 AM
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Well bitches love being disingenuous am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:29 AM
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A random guy might not help protect you, but a boyfriend absolutely would protect you. So to answer your original question, men bring protection to the table. Is my boyfriend going to be required to jog with me? Is my boyfriend going to be required to go to every girls night (my girlfriends stepped in with the concert one) Was my boyfriend going to transport back in time to be there for my 12 year old self? the very next time you complain about men's issues not being taken seriously I want you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:05 AM
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If you had a boyfriend he would have protected you. But you didn’t so you had no one to protect you. Is my boyfriend going to be required to jog with me? Is my boyfriend going to be required to go to every girls night (my girlfriends stepped in with the concert one) Was my boyfriend going to transport back in time to be there for my 12 year old self? the very next time you complain about men's issues not being taken seriously I want you to think about the replies I receive on this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:03 AM
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maybe we need to shift attitudes. Imagine sharing three scary scenarios and having three men jump in to laugh at you in the first five minutes of the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:57 AM
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Oh and in every single one of those situations, you don't think having a man with your would've prevented that? Because you're both saying a man isn't going to protect you while also so 'i feared for my life in these situations'? But they didn't Is my boyfriend going to be required to jog with me? Is my boyfriend going to be required to go to every girls night (my girlfriends stepped in with the concert one) Was my boyfriend going to transport back in time to be there for my 12 year old self?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:57 AM
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Lmao right? I'm glad someone else caught that too Men didn't help me here buddy. I had to figure it out. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:55 AM
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Lmao so in the previous comment you were asking what you could possibly need protection from and now all of the sudden you have a laundry list of situations where you needed protection. That a man wasn't there for. I dealt with these situations on my own. What's the importance of a man in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:54 AM
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don't wanna answer this question huh? I mean I get why but its pretty frustrating if I am being honest. The women you are talking about will probably never know about this post. It's those of us who are here that bear the brunt of your judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:53 AM
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haha I remember that post. 11 I was with my mom in a restaurant and a group of men stared and made comments loud enough for us both to hear. My mom was pissed but there was nothing we could do about it really. This is one of many, but definitely the one that pisses me off the most
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:49 AM
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It was a guy who pulled over on an empty road while I was jogging and then sped off the second I pointed my phone at him. It was a man who tried to follow me into the bathroom at a concert event. It was a man who chased me down my street when I was 12 and told me I was beautiful and he just wanted to talk to me. Please don't preemptively discount my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:47 AM
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Same intention. Sorry but you are just asking the same thing but just with the modern requirements What worth do women have. this is what it comes down to. When was the last time you saw a question like that about men on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:44 AM
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In this sub we are? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:41 AM
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Women see fit to criticize and tear men down so much and often On this site though? Women do this? On this site that is supposed to be a place where men and women come together to talk about issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:38 AM
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protection from what? I have to say the times I have experienced legitimate fear about my physical safety were times when I was alone or with other girls. I don't know how a relationship is supposed to magically transport my BF to the scene ​ presence of a man is the only way people respect them so there's that This one I can see. But there are ways around it without a BF
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:34 AM
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dammit! I only got frustration. :( lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:30 AM
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You ever notice how these "givens" seem to be there for the sole reason of dismissing a very big component that effects the entire issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:30 AM
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here it is https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/15yowvt/assuming_traditional_gender_norms_in_dating_what/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:28 AM
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Ya.... I spent a lot of time and energy on this Edit: lmao never mind it was a different post with the same question
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:25 AM
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makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:23 AM
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But it would have to be a particular woman. Are you saying women as a whole are worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:23 AM
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nice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:21 AM
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What do men bring to the table in modern society? I have a degree and a job so finance is not really going to be a major factor What would a man have to offer me in the same capacity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:20 AM
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I mean they have done studies on it include those done with MRI's. I don't think its as rare as you think https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2733324/ https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2000-03781-000
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:12 AM
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Cognitive empathy doesn't literally mean who have to feel what the other person is feeling but rather that you understand how they feel. For instance, I can look at someone with a broken leg and think about times in my life where my mobility was limited and therefore I would be able to empathize on a certain level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:22 PM
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So what is the driving factor for caring of members of our social group who experience hardship that isn't common. For instance, I have never broken my leg and i have met few people who have but it seems our society comes together and looks after someone who has experienced this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:06 PM
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So I am late to the party here but there are scenarios where I swear I am as dense as a slab of granite. I feel like most men I interact with regularly are perfectly nice to me (this is kind of outside of dating scenarios so maybe it doesn't apply), like friends of friends, co-workers, or anyone you see regularly and it NEVER occurs to me that they are interested, which is fine because its not a dating scenario. But so many times I will hear from another person that they are into me or talk abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:47 PM
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For male loneliness, we need to provide male spaces and understand that men bond differently than women This is valid. I think that we as a society have been trying to become more equal and to do it there is a measure of trial and error. I think at the time, right in the beginning of the metoo movement it was harder for people to understand the complexities of how this would have an effect on men. Its a goddamn shame that we are having to get to this point of crisis before addressing it. (and ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:15 PM
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That's a gross over simplification of the discussion that's going on here but I mean you did just directly link men's right's not going anywhere to women being too fragile. If you wanna have a conversation about men's rights that's fine but time and time again when I ask sincerely what steps we should take to address these problems one of two things happen. The man walks away from the conversation the man points to a petty grievance he personally has against women. For instance. Can you help me …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:41 PM
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I mean if you want I will absolutely spend the five minutes or so going through just todays post and pointing to comments made by people who angrily point their finger at women and fault women specifically for the hardships they experience concerning their own low self esteem. Give me the word but then you can't scamper off the second you have a hard time defending your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:10 AM
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It is and the prevalence of increased online behavior correlates... Male mental health is a problem but attacking women is counter productive,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:56 AM
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So we can still vilify women even when they are fighting for this kind of equality and have been the victim of this equality. How far back are you going to bend over to blame women for your problems in the face of conflicting evidence. Don't you think unification would be a better way to address this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:50 AM
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The draft argument is pretty layered. Women were banned from combat role up until 2013. Men banned women from serving. Men created laws which excused women from the draft. Its very telling that when the combat ban was lifted, the number of women who have joined has increased. The increase happened in spite of the fact that women face quite a bit of harassment in the military. This doesn't quite align with the idea that women are the cause of or in support of the restrictions that you feel showca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:29 AM
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Ya its difficult to pin down to be honest. I think its a little more nuanced than we can accurately address on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:08 AM
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To be honest a lot of reasons, one thing is that women use these dating apps significantly less then men so I don't think the data gathered from them is quantifiable Female 24% Male 75% https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tinder-statistics/#:~:text=Tinder%20has%20a%20gender%20imbalance,is%20closer%20to%2050%2F50. Okcupid is in a similar boat According to April 2020 survey data of adults in the United States, 11 percent of male respondents were currently using OkCupid. Only six percent of female …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:38 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:05 AM
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I’m really challenging you on your assumption that dating apps are a reliable and accurate measure of women having an “advantage”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:50 PM
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ok so you can't verify it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:36 PM
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This is probably completely anecdotal but maybe if they worried less about dating and more about education and career they wouldn't have to feel so jealous of women being successful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:34 PM
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Ok so you aren't going to address the point directly huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:27 PM
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Hmmm not quite the answer to my question. So who created this service ban?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:12 PM
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What do you supposed the reasoning behind the selective service are. Because Women bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:01 PM
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Right? Of course access to information and general logic is quite damaging to OPs post too. I’m so excited to see how this turns out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:57 PM
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Pretty sure there was a major movement comprised of both men and women protesting the draft when it happened last.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:52 PM
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Ooooo the medium! And the author of the article.... by Worst-Online-Dater Ok so we are basing this statistic off of tinder users. And we are furthermore saying that the amount of tinder users who are female represent the majority? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:41 PM
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Ya, looks like things are getting better for women, yay. Women in the dating world have a massive advantage over average men (to be fair, top 10% men have the most power here as most women are fighting for a top 10% man) this claim I don't believe. Do you have any sources for this? edit: my lazy ass scanned the information and I am completely wrong. There are so many claims here that need sources
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:24 PM
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Damn! You saw right through me. You win. Let me hop on my broom and fly away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:37 PM
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Both people are looking for companionship. That varies wildly between people depending on what they value in a relationship but I personally reducing the process to an exchange of products is not only unhelpful, it’s kind of self sabotage
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:20 PM
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If you are frustrated with the dating scene any advice or opinion can come off as aggressive or condescending. You can read a the same paragraph in wildly different ways depending on the preconceived tone in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:08 PM
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Woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:05 PM
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Agree completely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:05 PM
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Let’s agree to disagree. I’m not going to change your mind set on women or dating here, it’s clearly very complex and I don’t have access to the experience you are basing them on. Maybe we can at least agree that considering different viewpoints is never a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:04 PM
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Sounds like you got it figured out. Good luck out there buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:44 PM
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That dating it a two way street. That you should adjust your behavior depending on the reaction you get. That you shouldn’t make arguments about about the dating process from the assumption that women are a monolithic, judgmental, lazy group who do not have an investment in the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:59 PM
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Single mindedness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:52 PM
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This idea that some men hold about women not needing to do anything has a devaluing effect to don’t think you guys think about. I’d like to think I’m fun and funny Then some guy comes along and basically says. Cute I guess but unnecessary. I don’t require you to have a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:49 PM
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There you are! I was wondering how some of you were going to reject this perfectly reasonable opinion. They aren’t being emotional. They’re being direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:44 PM
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Nah, I’m legitimately irritable right now. Your good man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:15 AM
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Honestly maybe I’m just being fussy and not giving you the benefit of the doubt. If that’s the case then my bad man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:11 AM
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It sucks but hey, at least you get to rock up to reddit and be unnecessarily nasty to benign comments that women make. Totally worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:05 AM
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Nice edit. If I were you I wouldn’t waste your precious time and attention on women. Sounds like a complete waste of time for someone like you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:55 AM
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You can keep your time and attention to yourself don’t worry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:50 AM
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Nah I’ll get back to you now. Me just being there isn’t actually valued any more. We were talking about traditional values. I have to contribute meaningfully to the people around me to be appreciated, even as a young woman. The idea of launching into my worth to the people in my life who love me to justify this to a random stranger on the internet where I am commonly called names is so depressing. At the end of the day, my value is none of your business. Have a good night stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:34 AM
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Lmao my bad , I’ll get back to you in the morning
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:28 AM
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oh man.... Here we go ​ spouting off vitriol and shit ​ lol Cite me. Which part of what I said kicked you in the nuts so hard that you had to respond with this toddler tantrum energy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:44 AM
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Ohhhh now we want to get specific about things. The down voting again.... But in this traditional scenario…women hadn’t fucked other dudes yet often time please give the the accurate dates of this instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:40 AM
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In the same way that dowry's weren't a thing and duels weren't used to defend an attack on a man's honor. Really good job spotting the difference there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:34 AM
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aww. Thank you. I needed this :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:33 AM
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haha no friggin problem then. Go get em tiger
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:10 AM
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amiright? It's just a shame they don't have like a farm or something where you can just go pick out the most fertile girl. Sorry you have to play the stupid game bro. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:51 AM
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yep. Go get you a young fertile girl! I bet you'll have no problem picking them up. We love it when men are so smart that they see past our ridiculous game of trying to prove our value as people. I think you are gonna do great.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:47 AM
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Ohhhhh, haha I put a lot of effort into this reply for nothing. No ya, bitches be crazy right? Stupid hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:44 AM
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haha exactly. I think men don't generally understand the fact that our identity is hard to navigate in light of this too. Like obviously I have never experienced anything like this 'ritual' but god damn do I see the leftovers of this ideology in a lot of places.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:30 AM
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That’s the thing, you want a tangible explanation on traditional dating but in traditional dating it wasn’t just the man’s duty to initiate the ceremony, but his right (women haven’t always been encouraged to initiate the dating process) so in a traditional sense the woman participated in the dating ceremony (it’s kind of gross to talk about it like this lol) and basically, your gonna hate this, but the woman’s contribution was her time and attention. I almost want to have you think about the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:20 AM
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As most of the comments here mention, there is a flaw to your question. Traditionally speaking the man was responsible for initiating and facilitating a “date” and the purpose of the date was to begin the process of courtship, you are reducing it to a transaction when in reality it’s much more like a ceremony or ritual
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:56 AM
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Oh I see! Thank you, this brightened my day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:01 AM
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What a disturbing picture you've painted. I can't even be mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:36 PM
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Rare take but much appreciated. There was a thread that said something along the lines of "What do you bring to the table?" and I almost responded with, I am fun to be around. I have a variety of interests, a sense of humor, I listen and I love to actively help people when they are having a hard time. I stopped myself from respond though because I didn't think anyone wanted to hear all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:36 PM
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I bet it’s easy if you’re looking for a one night stand. The question is, would she enjoy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:38 PM
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I wouldn't dismiss the idea out of hand to be honest. I don't think people are getting advice on serious life decisions from reddit (god I hope not) but there might be some merit to the combination of toxic advice from uninvested parties and a cultural movement of women opting out of marriage more. The question now is, is it comparable to the amount of women who would have stayed in unhappy marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:45 AM
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The problem with dating is the fact that so many men base their opinions of it off of dating apps. For instance, I think its well known that while women don't find men as immediately attractive as men find women, women also value attractiveness less. Dating sites literally force you to choose based on attraction. The guy has no chance to showcase their personality. And generally when this opinion is made men on this site pop out of the wood works to argue that women do value attractiveness. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:34 AM
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Mens quality of life and health is poor because of women’s workplace needs The reason I say this is because of societal expectations of men and women. If men don’t want to work or be a stay at home dad it’s seen as selfish and lazy. Nobody thinks women are lazy for not wanting to work. The stigmatization of men being stay at home parents doesn't really relate to this as before women entered the workplace this was less of an option. ​ It’s also important to note that most women usually only want …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:25 AM
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This is cursory search but men dominate a lot of fields that you would consider office jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:01 AM
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Which one said this? You may be right but I don't remember reading those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:03 PM
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Its actually perfectly acceptable to be concerned about a statistic affecting our fellow country people when it comes to the alarming nature of the statistic, even if it a small percentage of people drastically effected. Listen I love to argue and the point may have gotten away form me in the moment and I will concede the point that sometimes this statistics scope may be overblown or used out of context but there is enough of an impact to be concerned about it and we should all want to make thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:01 PM
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And every source you’ve linked…. Oh wait
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:15 AM
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Are you really that scared of finding information that will back up your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:00 AM
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Dude you are asking me to do in depth research for you when you already dismissed the information I provided. You want me to spoon feed you information you know you are just going to spit out like a toddler who hates mashed peas? Why do you think this is an acceptable way to argue a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:56 AM
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So you just can't trust any source huh? So stay uninformed... its better for the rest of us this way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:51 AM
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bro. You cherry picked and still came up short. you read "black woman" and then immediately stopped reading. If homicide is the leading cause of death in black women who are pregnant it is a major issue we should all be concerned about and invested in finding a solution for. also at the end of the day if you refuse to inform yourself you are left at the mercy of those who do. Don't cry about inequality related to child support when you can't even be bothered to read an article or two fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:51 AM
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Man, imagine if you had the ability to find counter sources that disproved my point and the data linked in the articles I provided. But you can't do that can you. I bet you even did a quick search and saw that you couldn't back up your claim with data and then immediately abandoned it. Good thing you have an unlimited supply of "trust me bro" in your back pocket
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:44 AM
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So you didn't read it...any of it? AND you still feel entitled to your strong opinion without doing any research yourself. The CNN thing that you dismissed out of hand was one of several links in that article, for instance, did you look at this one? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36075083/ There is a plethora of information in all three of these sites but you didn't actually look at them did you? I even offered to answer questions for you so you wouldn't have to do the back breaking labor of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:40 AM
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yeah.... I went ahead and did the research for you and your claim doesn't stand. It's unfortunate, I was hoping this horrifying statistic had a flaw but it doesn't. Most of the reason for this rise in likelihood of murder is due to increased vulnerability, economic stress, and increased barriers to leaving an abusive relationship. Here are some sources. https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternal-mortality/pregnancy-mortality-surveillance-system.htm https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:14 AM
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No I am sorry I need data on this. I mean I can do it myself, I just thought you had it because of how confident your statement was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:01 AM
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Ooooo this is a take I haven't heard! Do you have any sources for further reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:55 AM
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Thanks man. And kudos to you too, I always appreciate a mellow conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:34 AM
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No I don't. I know of the term but I personally don't assign that title to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:31 AM
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I mean you can name call all day if you want. Personally I find it bad for my own mental health but you do you man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:27 AM
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Eh, spinster is a harsh term. Sounds like her life is just better when she doesn't have to factor in child rearing. And that's ok too. I think it sounds nice to have kids but I would sure as hell want to make sure the environment surrounding that decision is preferable to me before I do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:09 AM
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Your guess is correct but not because I don't want to have short, homeless, depressed children. It's because I don't want to have sex with that guy. Look I get that having kids isn't inherently evil. But I absolutely do not support pushing the rampant and unchecked multiplication of humans for no reason other than we all think we are special. regulation on reproduction is a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:03 AM
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I appreciate this viewpoint. Thank you stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:32 AM
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is it? Is the unbroken line that led to Ted Bundy pretty special in the way you mean it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:14 AM
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Its implicit Here are some quotes Not only you're letting down the hundreds of thousands of ancestors that came before you, you'll also letting down the hundreds of thousands of descendants that can potentially come after you By the sheer force of probability alone, some of them at some point might achieve things you can not even imagine or comprehend, and all of those things will be indrectly linked to you and will be able to be traced back to you at the very moment you reproduced. What conclus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:58 AM
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Oh boy I can't wait for your special super awesome offspring to log onto reddit and downvote me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:42 AM
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Ugh. Neither your future children or you ancestors are that great. Sorry but what a pompous way to say you think your genes are more important than everyone else's. or are you saying all eight billion of us are super special so we should all multiply like rabbits?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:39 AM
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I don't think so. I personally like leaner men vs. bulky muscles and I certainly am not attracted to men who are over weight. I don't think having a preference for a body type isn't problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:31 PM
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Strawman: Fallacy of relevance since majority of men that dealt with women had a very unpleasant experience at least once (divorce rape, badmouthing, making up things to make him look bad and some men even get killed by their partners) The fallacy of relevance pertains to the original post more than my comment. He is arguing a superficially similar position (comparing interpersonal relationships aspects to women's safety concerns when it comes to assault) Me addressing the fallacy of his argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:12 PM
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Wow, this is extremely insightful and gives me a whole new perspective. Very good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:22 AM
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I meant I never said men don't do it as well. Fair enough It is a pill type that stress the importance of looks as the most important factor in dating Ohhh I see. I don't know enough about it to agree but I bet it has its merits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 03:17 AM
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I know you didn't say men. You said women.... What's your point here? Also I don't really know what blackpill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 03:02 AM
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Men will choose a 2 in this scenario as well. Most people are looking for an attractive mate. Bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:58 AM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:53 AM
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Yay! I am genuinely happy for you! I wish you guys the absolute best :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:55 AM
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This might be racism to be honest and it sucks for both you and your girl. However, the reaction you got may be based more on the area where you live and peoples attitudes rather than the mindset of women all over the U.S. We have an exchange program where I live and so there are many foreign, college age girls and i DO see hatefulness directed at them by other women here but again I attribute it to racism and xenophobia (also a touch of jealousy, the exchange students are super hot!). I always …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:40 AM
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You’re accusing me of making arguments /u/Labayaccount123 made. Oh shit my bad And you still engaged with the hypothetical scenario as if it were real. When someone says “If Chad did X, Y, and Z,” responding with “WHY WOULD CHAD DO X, Y, AND Z IN THE FIRST PLACE” is not responding to the hypothetical. What is the point of a hypothetical if we don't agree that the situation is realistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:24 AM
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Look at you getting fussy, do you need to take a second? ​ You responded as if it were a real, actual situation. You either have poor reading comprehension or you’re not very bright. When you base your argument on a hypothetical, you are agreeing to argue with the perception that the claim you made is assumed. I engaged and debated with you based on YOUR hypothetical scenario. When you were faced with the fact that even though we were arguing under the hypothetical YOU outlined, you contradicted…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 12:13 AM
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That was something we call a “hypothetical scenario”. They are not based on actual situations. So you contradicted yourself, condescendingly explained what a hypothetical was to me, and didn't address the point I made. I made this point because we agreed to engage in a hypothetical scenario. You don't get to jump off your own boat because you can't think of a reply dude. ​ I didn’t, actually. but you did say that in some capacity when you said ​ men would marry every girl just to have sex. You a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:55 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:44 PM
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If you express an interest in the country you are going to your chances for being accepted into the program are much higher. While you don't need a degree it might be a good idea to get your associates or bachelors before trying but where there's a will there's a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:43 PM
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Do you think that they assume women will be flocking to them in other countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:29 PM
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skyrock That's the moon!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:27 PM
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Wait, you wouldn't show interest in a guy you aren't attracted to?!?!? You monster! haha jk, but you are definitely spot on, they really want us to feel terrible about us not wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:20 PM
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Two things Wait what? Why would Chad need to dupe me into marriage if he can already have sex with me? Which one is it? Also, Men and women both allow someone who they are extremely attracted to to treat them badly. This is a human problem. You literally just said you would marry ANY WOMAN who would let you have sex with her. You accuse me of not caring about a guys intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:17 PM
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Can I see a link to the comments that made you think this Mr misplace righteous anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:11 PM
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Dude 18 is the perfect age. You can literally go become a teaching assistant without a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:06 PM
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No you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:04 PM
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The majority of these arguments have nothing to do with a solution, its mostly just guys justifying their terrible attitudes and behavior towards women. The second you try to be empathetic they absolutely will not respond to a post. That's not what they are here for lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:03 PM
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I don't know, I am a western woman and I support the passport bro's movement as long as the women are being treated right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:00 PM
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I would certainly rather be 'pumped and dumped' than end up in a long term commitment with guys like this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:57 PM
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If Chad wants to marry me great! If not, at least I will enjoy my time with him while it lasts. Both scenarios are better than being duped into marrying someone who hates me and all other women and only married me to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:53 PM
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Good for him. The point still stands. I don't want to marry a dude who is only interested in having sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:46 PM
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No, women don't want you to self-delete and assigning evil intent to all women is a clear indicator that you are looking for a green light to hate on women. Women preferring attractive men is no more evil than men preferring attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:33 PM
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as long as they are not violent it shall not be a problem but theirs Women softly rejecting men are also not violent. What is your point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:27 PM
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You're doing great so far
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:59 PM
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men would marry every girl just to have sex. Why in the hell would I want a man to marry me JUST to have sex with me? Does it ever occur to you that women have thoughts, emotions, pride, etc? At least Chad is honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:56 PM
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It's not really a fair comparison. I mean we are essentially talking about building a mature adult relationship based off of mutual respect here. The question of men making women feel safer in public spaces is related to random attacks, the scenario you are describing is interpersonal and quite frankly a risk associated with developing a relationship with another person, male or female. For instance, what steps do men take to make sure other men are less fearful of these types of attacks. (bad m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:44 PM
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you win
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:40 PM
9

it isn't women who suffer the consequences of female discomfort Read that again for me but slower this time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:23 AM
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It's not a man's problem if she is offended by your approach. And it is not the woman's problem if your feelings are hurt by her reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:22 AM
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This is how most relationships start. Cold approaching is fun in movies but it doesn't actually happen that often (successfully any way) for either gender. It just seems like that in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:40 AM
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I think you're over thinking it. Women don't approach because at the very least it never crossed their mind in first place because of societal norms. Hell in some places and times its actively discouraged for them to do so. This assigning evil intent to actions that are benign is alarming. I keep seeing it on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:38 AM
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