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ScienceDB605/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:59 PM
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Nothing wrong with a clingy woman unless you happen to be a Chad. Then it becomes inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 06:09 PM
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It's because I think you might be my daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:52 AM
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LOL. You're cute. You've got more gumption than the last one of you this sub had.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:19 AM
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Do you have a reading disability?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:50 PM
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Brah...your argument makes no sense and contradicts itself. You're telling me you're an attractive male. If you believe you have it best because you are at the top of the ranking, do you understand that the other 3.5 billion men on earth aren't you, and that by your own argument if you are not a hot male, it is better to be female?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:52 PM
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This, if anything, hurts your argument and wildly boosts mine...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 03:16 PM
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While luck can play a part, I think it doesn't play into men's existence nearly as much as women's. If a man is born ugly, he can work with that. If a woman is born ugly, she is set really far back. With the connectivity of the modern world, I am unconvinced that that is the case. No matter what a woman looks like now, there is a subset of men with that fetish who will worship her if she has at least the minimal amount of motivation to find them. I knew a chubster woman who was maybe a 5.5 at be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:34 AM
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That's a nice sentiment on paper, if the stars align and Mercury is in retrograde, and you happen to be a cancer and get a sick horoscope and a hundred other uncontrollable, platitude'like factors work out for you. Ultimately the question is asking whether you'd rather have a million dollars now, or whether you'd prefer to have to work your ass off for the possibility of maybe having a million dollars later, if it works out for you. The value proposition between men and women's lives are obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 11:55 PM
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Probably. Depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:26 PM
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How...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:02 PM
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You'd have to be an idiot to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 08:43 PM
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"Stop being assholes to each other" If any mod thought that would have been the primary lesson learned, they have bigger issues in life than people being assholes on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 12:39 AM
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Men with options care. After they achieve sex anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:50 PM
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What women say means less than nothing. I've literally sat and listened to a woman talk about being done with one night stands and how fucking sick of them she is and then she'll never have another one until she has at least one more LTR then had a one night stand with my friend 2hrs later. People who complain about redpills thinking are usually more angry that someone is verbalizing truths they find inconvenient or offensive to their sensibilities, not because they think it's actually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:37 PM
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All women are like that. Her being smart doesn't make her any less female. In my experience, it's the smart women who tend to go for dumb chadly guys more often. Also consider that the type of woman you listed is not the type of woman redpills want in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:33 PM
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This is just a fact of life for non-chad men; you're probably going to have to approach a lot of women if you want a woman of your choosing and not whoever will have you, which is how most men fall into relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:29 PM
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That is a platitude that effectively sounds better than it parses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:10 PM
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People do what is easy. If they didn't, all men would look like The Rock, and all women would be Victoria Secret models. Clearly that is not the world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:42 PM
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Most incels, most nice guys, and most men in general are not fat slobs, and have decent jobs and are still losers with women so your theory doesn't pass muster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 03:48 PM
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Because that disproportionately difficult...? Duh. Low quality men don't want to be settled for. They wish women's standards weren't unattainable. For as much as this sub tales about the same 3 topics, no one has any idea what they're talking about still.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 07:12 PM
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Are you saying no women actually partner up with confident, funny guys who treat them well? No Are you saying the overwhelming majority of women are dating and partnering up with the opposite of the men who possess these traits? In context, yes. And that's just all around weird, man. So is gravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 07:03 AM
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I mean we can agree to disagree. I think as a woman you are underestimating a lot of factors because SMV is not relevant so long as you're not a swamp monster for you people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 09:23 PM
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As another user said, in today's SMP, being on the good side of average doesn't cut it. You have to be hot if you want a truly fulfilling sex life with modern women so I doubt that this is even a relevant argument but giving you the benefit of the doubt, no one sensible says average guys are totally fucked. It's the wildly disproportionate degree of time, effort and money it costs men to increase their smv even 1 point vs women who can go up 2, 3 points from stuff they grabbed off a shelf. Furth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 06:12 PM
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That's not true either. Average guys sometimes get sex enough to not want to join an incel cult or somehing. They certainly don't do "just fine".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:24 AM
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This post makes no sense. you're validating his opinion by saying "average men can become attractive by not being average and becoming attractive". You conflated two different arguments. Average men are hopeless is not the same thing as "average men are hopeless being average".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:20 AM
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I meant what lead to this change of heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:21 PM
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Define "like".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 03:53 PM
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Oh I see. I thought you were saying you had a boyfriend, and then you later realized you liked your boyfriend, which made 0 sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 03:14 PM
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The way you have written this is very odd... If he was your boyfriend, it's clear you already liked him. This sounds like you're saying "i like chocolate cake. I stop eating it for a couple years. Then someone bought me a chocolate cake, and i decided I liked chocolate cake".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:57 PM
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Who cares? Why would you even be asking this question or thinking in this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:51 PM
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And now you're bullshitting. If you're not going to be honest, this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:33 AM
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This has always been a poor argument in my opinion... For one thing, it's stilted because it ignores a bunch of other more sensible factors that also contribute. And second, the logic used to arrive at this conclusion isn't very convincing. You have to look at what most men that WERE considered attractive have that the other men don't. If a woman finds being overweight an absolute dealbreaker, overweight people were never even on the radar to begin with. Everyone on OKC could lose, as you say, 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 10:05 PM
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None of this is within the context of the conversation. You're weaselling because you're miscontruing the context of the conversation, re-framing it in a more pleasing hypothetical and then attacking the argument being made by failing within the confines of the new, false hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:47 PM
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Men being pliable, thirsty, having no spine etc. when dealing with women because they hope to get something out of it or because they have gotten something out of it qualifies. Men throwing other men under the bus in order to get access to women (whether it's to ingratiate themselves with women they hope to score with or to women they're already in a relationship with) qualifies. From a general, non-RP perspective: men being overly competitive would also qualify. Yea, ok, I'd agree with that, pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:45 PM
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Lol you asked questions. I answered them with factually correct explainations. I didn't even indicate my personal beliefs. You are a fragile individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 04:13 PM
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I would not qualify that as being synonymous with "AMALT". AWALT isn't about women enjoying chads. It's about the behavioral characteristics that differentiate them from men in negative ways, or contextually undesirable ways. The fact that men are far more sexually pliable than women are is also a serious counterpoint to that notion. The only men who really have enough sexual capital to indulging their innate tendencies as wantonly as women are probably chad-level guys. Sure, maybe we can say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:40 AM
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But, even if you asked a woman what she wanted in a man and she gave you an extensive all-inclusive list and such a man asked her out on a date, she is not obligated to date him for many reasons, including but not limited to, she's just not feeling it. You keep trying to weasel out of the context. No one is indicting women on specifying a "type" and opting not to date 1 guy who vaguely meets that type. It's that women give a type and sexually select for the opposite. I think you are overhearing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 06:56 AM
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[AWALT] What does this even mean? "All Women Are Like that". A reminder to men that if you think a particular woman is unique, special, or in some way above negative characteristics you seek to avoid entertaining in women, they aren't. I see this tossed around for every example of a women behaving negativity. What character traits does every woman have? In my experience, no answer satisfies inquiring women who ask this question. It's akin to describing porn to a blind man. An art piece of two pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 06:53 AM
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The is more akin to really bad apologism than an argument really. I mean you've made the only argument you can possibly make, but the first part... That's your view of things. From my point of view, women are saying what they want, not necessarily dating every guy who fits those criteria and then marrying someone who does fit those criteria. Cannot be said to be objectively true. That's your subjective guess. The best argument you can possibly make is that women being asked a question by men in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:43 AM
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If you come into my store, and tell me you'd like a product from me for an agreed upon price but you don't have your wallet on you, and I tell you i'm willing to sell it at that price for you, and you walk home get your wallet and come back, and I tell you i'm not selling it to you for that price, and then scold you for thinking you could buy the product for that price in my store, I have at most broken an agreed social contract, and at least acted like an utter trashpile of a human being. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 11:11 PM
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What most of the teen mom and other such "TLC reality drama" type shows demonstrate is more that women do not value intelligence or dependability and usually not loyalty either. Most of their boyfriends are alright, or above average looking. They just happen to be idiots, or womanizers of low quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 05:03 PM
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You can believe socialism is stupid, but love getting free money. This question has always been a horrible gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 04:28 PM
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Of course camgirls are selected for looks. They're camgirls. If I go watch porn, why would I watch the pornstars im significantly less attracted to? A man's preference in porn star has nothing to do with who he'll accept in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 04:25 PM
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Who other than feminists told men to treat women with respect? Pretty much everyone? Who is telling men not to treat women with respect....? I am guessing since I can't think who else would be making a covert contract with men about attraction and you haven't actually said who. Yes I have, I said women. Female friends, sisters, mothers, classmates, colleagues, etc. Ask any normal woman what she wants in a man and she will say some contrived shit about a guy who treats her well, who's funny, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 04:21 PM
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What are you on about? None of this has to do with the topic of "nice guy'ism" and covert contracts. No where have I said anything about feminism, although feminism is the cause for the belief that this is positive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 05:31 AM
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You're just spouting horseshit at this point. Being a good person and doing what is required of you to attain a sexual partner are two different things. No one is talking about the former. The subject is that the latter was a covert contract often and deliberately renegged on by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:49 AM
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I acknowledge that someone, somewhere probably has Ok, so you acknowledge that your previous reply was falsified/a lie. That's actually a good start. Feminists pushed for choice because they thought (apparently wrongly in some cases) that men wanted women to have good sex. What kind of hippie bullshit is this and how is it relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:35 AM
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That's like saying no black people have ever worn red shirts. Don't be retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 01:55 AM
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The stipulations of female attraction and the means of productive human connection(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 08:38 PM
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No one said anything about promising.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 10:10 PM
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So replying to this would be a total waste of time and you certainly have wasted enough of my time. I'm more curious about you. What about you gives you more value than the average man? I mean you seem quite sure of your deific levels of value. Surely you're raising 15 of the best children you had via immaculate conception whilst curing cancer in your spare time yet somehow spend your time on Reddit still. Share with the class.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 10:09 PM
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You are more than welcome to say whatever the fuck your delusions have most recently led you to believe. Still doesn’t change the fact that you have literarily zero experiences dating men, so unless you can back your statements up with anything more than the “stories” that your bros have been feeding you, then it would do you a lot of good to sit down and be quiet. You literally just proved my point whilst trying to insult me. Not a very quick one are we? Come back after you take your regularly …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:07 PM
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Where do you think they got the idea niceness = sex from? Thin air?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:59 PM
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What contract are the women making? The stipulations of attraction, and successful seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:56 PM
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Then you must be either willfully ignorant or just delusional. And you don’t actually date men, so I have no idea how you know what the experience of dating men is like, beyond your own self. Ziiiinnnggg! Shots fired, officer mutha fuckin down! When's your dis track dropping? "You don't date men so you have no knowledge of men" is a fundamentally stupid counter-point. By that logic, anything I say about women is true because you're a woman and have no idea what being a man relating to women is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:29 PM
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That's in some pretty direct conflict with reality unfortunately... If women said flat out "we just want chad", there wouldn't be an issue of 'nice guy'ism in the first place. Hell, there wouldn't even be a TRP. This knowledge would already be known.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:07 PM
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I accept your apology.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:01 PM
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They don't. They throw fits about being shamed for being upset about fraudulent covert contracts. That's not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 10:59 PM
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No one said anything of the sort. Have fun beating that straw man to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:37 AM
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Clubs are like lambourghini showrooms. If you have the money to buy a lambo, you don't need to actually go to a showroom to buy one, and if you don't have the money, going to a showroom isn't going to help your finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:28 PM
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Going to clubs isn't correlated to success. At all. If you're attractive, you don't require clubs. If you're unattractive, clubs will not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:37 PM
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I double dog dare you to defend anything I countered in that post. Otherwise, that was a 2/10, and good day to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:17 PM
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<5% shift. Chads with a lot of options may shy away, but no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:15 PM
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Basically: male n-count is to a significant degree a reflection of choices, and not, as some Red Pillers imply, mostly a reflection of one's "SMV" That isn't supported by your quotes, or your reasoning. One could simply say attractive men with high "SMV" do better when honesty is lowered and machiavellianism is increased. Unattractive men may do minimally better when mach. is increased but still better, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:00 PM
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The belief that all abusers are Petyr Baelish level masterminds is pretty insane to me. The far more likely explanation is there are women who just enjoy being abused, or are willing to tolerate it in exchange for some other commodity, like affection, in which case it's their own fault. At least I can feel good that you guys don't even seem to know how abusive relationships work first hand You don't seem to know how reason works first hand, lady-bro. This has nothing to do with the question. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:56 PM
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No idea who that is. Late Night talk show host famous for having high sexual tension interviews with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:41 PM
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No they do not. Any belief that they do is either a misunderstanding of social dynamics, or simply being wrong about the interpretation of events that transpired. If a man is trying to get into your good graces, he fundamentally believes he has to earn that, or else he'd just rape you, or go find someone else who will reciprocate more willingly. He's not going to throw a fit about 1 woman who didn't give him what he wanted. You're not soooo hot and sooooo amazing that guys are just going to orbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:36 PM
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Looks are sexy. If a man is attractive, he's funny by default to most women. That being said, Craig Ferguson may be useful in some ways, but it's important to remember the women on his shows are in forced situations where it's not like they can ignore him or shut him down...it's a talk show, and they're celebrities. They do seem to enjoy themselves a good deal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:29 PM
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Sorry, but this is dumb. Sex is an exchange. Women don't just decide they're horny and fuck the first male that crosses them. If they're having sex with someone, there's an exchange of desire and value/validation going on and in that respect, it is earned. She earned it by being hot enough for him and he earned it by possessing or acquiring whatever quality made him fuckable to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:03 PM
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It's a stupid attempt at a 'gotcha' soundbite used against 'nice guys' who express their frustration in attracting women. It's ultimately non-sensical as men aren't demanding sex, nor are men under the impression they're entitled to it. You can't be entitled to something you're concurrently attempting to earn. The problem is women have expressed a covert contract throughout our culture: "oh my god...i just want a nice guy", "why can't I find a guy like you", blah blah blah, so men are confused w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:40 PM
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What an odd belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:03 PM
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When you say women’s tastes are more homogenous - what are you picturing physically? It seems to me that most of the ‘hot’ men and women portrayed in media are pretty close to each other on the spectrum. I have a strong image in my head when I think of the average woman’s ‘hunk’ and the average guy’s ‘babe’ - they’re not my ideals, but the media portrays them as the ideals of the majority. The amount of men who either don't like or could equally appreciate a woman of differing appearance is far …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 08:31 PM
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Yes, but what characteristics they find attractive can be demanding. Just as they can be for women. Sure, you got me there. What we're defining as attractive matters. In a colossal nutshell, as I don't believe in subjective attractiveness as most people view it, I'd say women are a far more homogenous group in terms of their taste in men than men's taste in women. Meaning my point suggests the level of attractiveness men will desire from women is far lower than vice versa. Some people try to fra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 04:57 PM
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I've noticed most people in this subreddit don't comprehend the difference between being reasonably upset that the other sex is offering unreasonable socio-sexual contracts and the opposite sex having unrealistic expectations of life itself... It is one thing to say, for example, to accept that women are going to do whatever women are going to do that is in their best interest. It is another thing to examine what it is they are doing and declare it unreasonable. In any event, to answer the quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:56 PM
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98% of men want someone they find attractive, who's nice to them. That's not demanding whatsoever. Most men don't even ask she be a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:39 PM
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Men and women don't have to date anyone, and they certainly don't have to date the opposite sex. Are you trying to say instead that if you're a straight man, you have to deal with women and vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:36 PM
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A 35yr old man who loves My Little Pony and has a Waifu "being himself" is a radically terrible plan to attract pretty much anyone of any gender. One might say "but if a partner can't handle his love of cartoons and anime women, they aren't for him anyway!". Yes, but that's no how people work... Women will forgive pretty much anything if they like you. The famous "Henry" case (a case in which a man codenamed "henry" severely beat and hospitalized his wife, and somehow managed to keep getting mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:29 PM
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Most men would kill to even achieve half or a quarter of your situation. I wouldn't bother looking for "THE ONE". If that's what you want to do great, not hating or discouraging, but if I were you, I'd take my "winnings" of easy enough casual sex and laugh my way to the pussy bank. That's better than 80% of the male populace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:18 PM
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This is called being a man. Enjoy your stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:09 PM
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How does feminism not have mass appeal? It's entire purpose is to convince women they have absolutely no responsibility for their problems or personhood in life. It's basically gender religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:00 PM
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I don't think it's losing at all. I think it's winning. I think it's winning so badly that the conversation now seems to have shifted from "here's why we need feminism" to "this feminism is better than that feminism". Feminism is so pervasive, it's now shifted into branding. It's as if the first phase was "everyone needs a car", but everyone has a car so now they're going to in-fight about whether Honda or Chevy is the way to go. I was listening to a debate last night posted to /r/Femradebates o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 03:57 PM
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Unless you wake up in the morning and put an active, concerted effort into being as unlikable as possible, it's unlikely any woman is genuinely "unattractive". There are a number of men out there who are your SMV superior who will still take you. I almost never see average men out there with girlfriends who don't make me think "he could do better".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 11:50 PM
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That would be a more succinct way to put it I suppose, yes. The entire notion of "self-esteem" is really only applicable to men because only men connect their internal self-reflection to their external active performance. Ie. a man who thinks he's an ugly loser will behave like a ugly loser and hold beliefs about the world and what he's owed based on that premise. Women however, do not in any way relate their self-evaluation to their external performance or beliefs about the world. You can go he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 07:31 PM
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That's simply not true. It's possible there are deviants, like ugly people with very high self esteem. I've met several, but to say this isn't the norm enough to form a general rule is absolutely wrong, flying through wrong space, coming from the planet wrong, orbitting the wrong star, in the galaxy of wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:54 PM
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hence the good looking girl with low self esteem is an eternal phenomenon This is not a thing. I've said this for years, but this has always seemed to me a radical misunderstanding of the female ability to compartmentalize their social heirarchy. "The good looking girl with low self esteem" does not have low self-esteem in a general sense. She may be made to feel uncompetitive in comparison to her equally or more attractive friends, but to call this "low self esteem" is a serious misnomer. She i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 05:44 PM
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Have you ever had a sexual encounter? No one is saying every thrust or touch or kiss needs to be negotiated. But anal is not a "little thing," or part of a typical sexual encounter (outside of porn) and it absolutely needs to be discussed first! No, no it doesn't. Guy tries to put in, you tell him no thanks. Done. This exchange takes about 3 seconds and requires like a 7th grade maturity level. It's not complicated. This is not that hard. I noticed. lol. If you're having PIV sex with someone and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 09:32 PM
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I've read the story. I have watched the videos and read the articles. You're not going to weasel out of this by accusations of ignorance... Coerce means "to compel by force". He didn't force her to do anything. He asked her. He was persistent. She had extremely malleable boundaries, she blew him, he stuck his hands down her throat, decided she was uncomfortable and asked for an uber home. He paid for it. That's not coercion. She told him she was uncomfortable the next day, and he apologized. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 09:11 PM
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Lol, are you a tumblrina?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:40 AM
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El oh el.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:13 AM
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The law is on my side. Silence is not explicit consent And the law is insane, written by feminist pandering politicians. Fuck you. When? I have tomorrow free. All of this is a gigantic load of horseshit. You just literally told me that women just need accept that men are going to assault them from time to time, A guy trying to put his peenor in your butt is not assault, lmao. If what happened can be stopped or avoided with "dude, I told you I don't like that", you did not get raped. Your emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:52 AM
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He chased her around the appartment. Ignored her clear signals of being uninterested. She gave him a blowjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:44 AM
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What is it you believe I'm defending? Common sense? Have you ever had a sexual encounter? People cannot read your minds and asking your partner if you can do every little thing is not how sex works. No one is going to fucking beg for every single pelvic thrust...That is ultimately what you want, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:41 AM
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You're adorable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:35 AM
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That's not how consent works if you're a normal, reasonable human and not an insane person broken in the head by feminist propoganda. You preemptively told him (months ago) you don't like 2 particular sex acts. Months go by. You've been banging this man for several weeks. He tries sex act 1 on you in the middle of sex. You go gave him consent via your silence and willingness to continue. You're going to challenge this that silence isn't consent. I am going to counter challenge that only insane p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:30 AM
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And I am supposed to believe that those women who talked about it in #metoo arent real women? Listen, ask her. No means no. It is that simple. If you dont understand this, or choose to ignore it, you cant have sex. No one says they aren't real. They're saying they're unreasonable like "Grace" from the Aziz story; immature women who can't handle taking responsibility for themselves and believe it's the world's responsibility to caretake their emotions. If you do this, expect to be #metoo'd and os…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:13 AM
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You said you have 2 things. He did the first, you went with it anyway, so we already know your boundaries are malleable and you reward people for crossing them by continuing to have sex. He crossed the second boundary and only then did you stop the act of sex... Why would anyone not give it a go if you let the first one slide? Your boundaries don't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:59 AM
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This is why we have #metoo. It is not negotiable. Tell that to the other 3.5 billion women who say "no" but mean "yes".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:56 AM
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Except that he didn't force you. He ignored your wishes and during sex tried to put it someplace you told him you didn't like, and you let it happen anyway. The government body for which I work just decided a man calling a woman "darling" at work is sexual harassment, but a woman doing it to a man is not. Do you think people who make rules/laws are always sensible? Pro-tip: the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:55 AM
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And if it isn’t negotiable it’s rape though. No, because everything that displeases women =/= rape. Him trying to stick it in your bumbum isn't rape just because you told him you dislike that sex act. As long as he stopped when you asked him to, and you make your lack of consent reasonably known and not just "lel, staahhp ;)" which is what most women do, then maybe you could have an argument for sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 12:11 AM
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Was I assaulted No should I prosecute this guy? No The Problem with “No Means No” is Men always Think it’s Negotiable. Because it usually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 12:00 AM
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Hentai and abusive porn genres are tiny compared to mainstream trash like Brazzers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 06:11 AM
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I would argue free-use fetishism isn't the same thing as "being used", but ok. You're the woman here...explain it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 10:55 PM
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Why does she need to be degraded at all? I don’t get why calling a woman who likes nasty sex a slut and a whore is attractive. The question doesn't really make sense. Calling a woman a whore is not inherently attractive. A woman being a whore for you is attractive. Why being a whore means what it does has more to do with culture than sex. That begs the question "if all sexual acts were unbound/unshamed, what would happen to the idea of sexual adventurism and fetishism?", to which I don't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 10:04 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 09:20 PM
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I feel like sex could be rough and not be abusive - I like rough sex, but I don’t want to be called a “slut” or spit on during it Sure, but just going by the post, it seems the increase is in violent anal gang bang porn and other such genres. I think "wild sex" isn't exactly novel. I mean any woman can get a guy to pull her hair or something. Degradation I think is more a male fantasy. I don't think so. As a man, I don't think men think this way, and I really have never encountered a man who enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 09:20 PM
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Meercats have an education system to teach young meercats how to hunt scorpions without getting stung that involved 3 levels of mastery... Crows have a barter system that punishes crows (or human scientists) who try to cheat them and engage in unreciprocal bartering, and can remember which crows (or humans) are assholes and which ones are honest... The dumbest human is much smarter than the smartest of animals. Do anything long enough and you can be proficient at it. That doesn't make football p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 08:30 PM
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Nope. I think you have it backwards. Rough sex is primal. Primality is an escape for women because it's A) novel and B) stands in opposition to most SJW/feminist mantras currently at the forefront of our modern society. Men like porn in general because as the active sex, vicariously fucking an attractive woman for 80% of the male population is about as primal as necessary to get off. 98% of Women, who are the passive sex, can have sex with an attractive male within 3 swipes on Tinder, hence they…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 08:23 PM
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That's the worst part; he wasn't even a sperg asian. He was a pothead asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:40 PM
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Agreed, though I'd say status and wealth are more tightly correlated with traits correlated to being a "go-getter", which doesn't necessarily require intelligence. Some of the people I've known where going to get good jobs and go places were simultaneously some of the stupidest people I've met. They just actually did things and suffered from dunning-kruger and weren't aware of how stupid they actually were. I know an asian kid who tried to organize an actual revolution against the government who…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:26 PM
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The admiration or infatuation with a single woman. Ie. a crush, or the feeling of being in love with someone who haven't yet had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:16 PM
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You literally just explained AWALT to yourself. lol. A self fulfilling prophecy that can't be proved wrong. It's monolithic because women as a function of nature are monolithic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:08 PM
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Why would RPW require amorality as a talking point? Their general strategy is to remain conservative, dress feminine, and make your man pies. There is no real room or reason for moral ambiguity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:02 PM
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I do not think it is a specific plan. Women just want sex/sexuality to work for them, when they want, and they want to win all the time, with no responsibilities for their actions or behaviors, and hate that men don't lose in a manner that is convenient for them. Feminists may do this deliberately. Women as a collective do not. I do not even think most women are capable of comprehending the gross contradictions of their world view(s) because they're so socially conditioned. They just feel things…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:59 PM
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It's neither here nor there. Most people want someone who shares their values and can communicate with. If you're very intelligent, the barrier to your success will be learning to relate to "the cheerleader" who's intellectual fortitude stops at an encyclopedic knowledge of Kylie Jenner's new make-up line. If all you want to talk about is baroque architecture, she will not be able to relate to you. People's here tend to think being very intelligent is bad. It isn't necessarily, though, people's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:55 PM
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Yes. Whoever is in the position of either wanting, or needing something from another individual is being gatekept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 04:35 PM
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Wonder Woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:37 PM
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That's like asking if crime will ever end. Violence against women is a crime. Crime won't end. Therefore, violence against women won't end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 04:24 PM
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I agree. I think 70% of the problem is women being sore winners. 30% of the hype is men actually being men in male spaces, self improvement, voiced redpill hatred for women etc., but most of the talk is women complaining about not winning as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 06:41 PM
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The amount of irrelevant information in this post is worthy in itself of a gendered discussion on the writing styles of men vs women. I actually think that'd be more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 03:32 PM
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On the scale of "bad things that have happened in human history", this doesn't even register...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:51 PM
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Other than upper class people in upper class professions, I don't think there is currently any real stigma to being divorced. Her girlfriends will believe whatever excuse she has, his guy friends will believe whatever excuse he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:49 PM
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Your joke “TRP is entirely true” sort of proves you don’t have any scientific studies to hand though. You can’t claim logic, reasoning, critical thinking and truth in your worldview if you completely ignore the scientific method and instead just go on what you THINK is right in your experience. This is a weird belief bluepill and generally left leaning people made up. The scientific method and the nature of belief is not enslaved to a guy in a labcoat. A study isn't de-facto correct. The idea th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:11 PM
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You seem to be trying to make a counter argument that those are the men women are settling down with so they're the real winners and the shaming is sour grapes, but they're only winning by female metrics. Being the guy a woman picks to raise a family after spending 30 years taking it in the ass from a carousel of Chads isn't winning. That's also not giving up any power because women are the gatekeepers of commitment and most sexual interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:56 PM
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That’s the point. It’s to weed out exactly those kind of men who only want sex and select for the ones that are more likely to wait for sex usually because they value you enough to put in effort and commitment before they get sex. But then they're weak beta males who should have rejected you for making them wait because you didn't make Chad(s) (or other apex males) wait... Also, men tend to view women who put out too early as ‘slutty’, so it’s always in a woman’s best interest to make him wait o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 01:10 AM
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Then don't be a wife or a forever girlfriend to a man who doesn't satisfy you and make you happy. You have infinite options and infinite privileges; pick better ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 01:00 AM
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This is only remotely true if we consider that this is only in the realm of possibility for the apex males women sexually select for. 5/10 males aren't cheating on their wives with 19yr old interns and if the only thing stopping me from doing that is the paperwork I did with you, this relationship is over anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:56 AM
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“It’s true because I know a lot of women, therefore my perception of their experiences is correct” is literally your argument here. No, it's not, lol. My argument here is "before you attempt to employ a "poisoned well" fallacy, and try to claim that my position is a result of not knowing any women, which is not an uncommon argumentation tactic from people like you, the amount of women I know is at or above average". You made the claim, so the onus is on you to demonstrate how you’re correct. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:52 AM
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Ok so, in the same breath as comparing your views to Galileo (lol) you’ve said that all that matters is critical thinking....and said that you don’t need scientists performing actual evidence based studies (which involves a lot of critical thinking!!) to say your opinions are true. No one did this. My referencing Galileo was in reference to you trying to use a handful of friends laughing at a belief system as proof the entire belief system must be false. Not all science is equal, and not all sci…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:38 AM
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No one thinks they're inferior except the women who have them. Everything you listed is only correct when placed in the context of men comparing those traits to their own self-policed concepts of masculinity, which serves it's own purpose and exists for reasons beyond the scope of this conversation. Me telling another man to "take the dress off and man up" because I caught him crying or something, doesn't mean wearing a dress and crying are inherently inferior traits. It means I, as a man, under…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 12:06 AM
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It's a classic Bill Maher joke dude. You're really digging for that outrage porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 11:35 PM
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You are continually denying it by saying [paraphrased] "In Canada, unmarried people raising children does not carry a stigma, and the culture of Canada is similar to that of the US, so it doesn't have a stigma in the US either." If this is not your argument then I have misunderstood you; you're free to correct me. I said that once. Then you attempted to hand-wave my opinion away, to which I defended myself by saying I find the assertion that US and Canadian culture are completely different in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:59 PM
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You're ranting at nothing. I never claimed marriage has no tax benefits, and conceded this point to Jammerly1 already in my previous reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:35 PM
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it does place them firmly within a social class and that matters. I have never seen any evidence of this being true. I would posit there is no evidence within our culture of this being true. I have not yet heard a convincing argument for the existence of this being true, and you are not doing a particularly good job of convincing me this is true. If you disagree, that is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:32 PM
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I mean, that analogy probably feels good for you, but it's not very sensible. Old white men have probably never met a black guy in their life as blacks make up like 25% of the US population or something. Women are 50% of the human population. I've met hundreds of women of various SMV levels, same as any other normal human being, and black people being contributing members of society with no ifs, ands, or buts attached is demonstrably true. You can try the ol' shame tactic all you want, unless yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:28 PM
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There's no such thing as common law marriage in the vast majority of the US, and even in the few states where it does exist it requires a lot more than just cohabitating. So yes, in this particular area our cultures are quite different. Again, the fact that you deny this only speaks to your ignorance. I never said I denied that. You seem very invested in trying to hand-wave this conversation away with 'Michael Jackson' ad homs. I am willing to believe that in Canada, two unmarried cohabitating/c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:17 PM
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Yes it does; it have everything to do with it, but let's make it more clear. What feminists, women, and generally left leaning people do is assume that because guys jib each other about "throwing like a girl" that femininity is perceived as weak. They conveniently ignore counter examples in our culture, like "happy wife, happy life" in which it's inferred that men should supplicate themselves to women and other such examples of masculinity being perceived as brittle or at the mercy of women. My …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:02 PM
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That’s nice and all but the law treats marriage and bf/gf very different. Marriage is an incentive and signifier to society of social status, social and financial long term investment in each other. It is also a very important legal contract None of this is true except the first sentence. In 1950, yes. Not anymore. Marriage isn't hard to do. Lots of people are on third, fourth, fifth marriage. Marriage is not a social status amongst most of the demographic who actually still get married, ironica…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:46 PM
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First, you've provided no real argument. You've just thrown a personal anecdote at me that you value legitimacy for the sake of tradition. Good for you. Second, it wasn't "a weird definition I made up". I responded to the OP, who's definition I assumed based on the manner they phrased their concern. Third, it is not unreasonable to claim most people would find the discovery of being a cuckhold a valid application of the concept. Fourth, playing the semantics game isn't going to get you anywhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:38 PM
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I'd say the woman has to reach a 2.5 ~3/10 before she hits the "I now require active participation in life to resist losing" level. A 5/10 woman can still win with minimal effort provided her expectations are reasonable. Of course hypergamy = inherently unreasonable, but that's more the woman's own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:24 PM
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I used to have a female friend who was obsessed with my other friend, who fuck-zoned her. I sat and watched her logic backwards that she can't quit him because he serves as a surrogate "daddy" figure and then started balling. It was pretty amazing and the only time I've ever seen a woman critically analyze her own behavior objectively. Then again, it's now 2-3yrs later, and she's still obsessed with him...so0o0o obviously it wasn't worth much to her anyway. Most women's level of introspection st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:12 PM
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I think you'll find the two are strongly correlated in most places that aren't covered in sand, and make a habit of cutting women's heads off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:09 PM
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Notice how you've taken a fairly emotionless, objective appraisal/opinion and are attempting to reframe it as a personal grudge? Tricksy hobbitzez you are. I have no "issue" with people thinking marriage is objectively valuable, their arguments for that belief are just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:06 PM
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I don't disagree with any of this. What I disagree with is that it solves the specific problems various women cite as to why marriage is attractive. "It's for commitment": Nope. Not really. Any man can still cheat on you. And if I don't like you enough to cheat on you, why do you want to be contractually obligated to stay with me? "It's for pooling resources": Nope. Not really. You can still do that without marriage. "It's for the legitimacy of my children!": Nope. Not really, for various long w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:04 PM
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Father Odin hasn't graced me with the privilege of visiting the land of the allfathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:54 PM
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That's a weird and non-functional analogy. Business isn't sex. Unless you make sex a business, which is what the left wing feminism wants. Do you make the women you go out to drinks with sign confidentiality agreements?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:54 PM
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Who cares what word was used? You listed "stuff" you think marriage solves. I explained why that that stuff isn't solved by marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:49 PM
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I know where this is going so let's just skip ahead. I'm going to say "Lol, yes, you can", and then you're going to demand an example, and I'm going to cite something like a sugar baby, (or just any woman better than a 6/10 really...) or something where some chick literally does nothing and rakes in a ton of privileges, and then you're going to claim that the effort they put into their appearance is still "something", and I'm going to argue that managing to not be obese when you were already bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:40 PM
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Value and worth are different. I explained the two in my other reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:29 PM
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No one ever said there was a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:28 PM
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You’ve met men that view RP as true, but most of my male friends do not view it as true, and find the idea of it laughable They also laughed at Galileo. Literally everything is laughed at at some point. It doesn't matter who laughs. What matters is critical thinking. Without actual concrete evidence and extensive studies who is to say who is correct? You do not need a man in a lab coat holding a study to know something is a rational belief or not. If studies deem something untrue, then one can r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:28 PM
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You're muddying the waters. The issue was the status of bastard children, not single motherhood. A man fucking a woman, leaving and her keeping the kid is different than two devoted parents having a kid who happen to just not be married, but common-law. I live in Canada, not India. Our cultures are pretty much identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:17 PM
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You're killing me. Let's see...You listed a bunch of problems in your op. Marriage doesn't solve any of those problem. You countered by saying "if a man wants my best, he has to give me something", but seeing as again, marriage doesn't solve any of those problems, he's still giving you nothing. And then I questioned why a man is with you if you're not currently giving him your best. Then he's settling, so now marriage is a bad idea for him because why would anyone marry someone who's only half-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:40 PM
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I agree with your agreement and it gets me hard bb.\ In any case, lol, this logic can be applied to most of the female experience. I've always found the idea of making a man wait for sex before offering commitment strange. If he wants sex only, he's not going to wait around and if he didn't like you enough to stick around, withholding sex wasn't going to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:29 PM
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You've either missed my point or I don't understand what you're saying. You said you believe all men act and think in a particular way. I responded that only a subset of men act and think like that, which happens to be the subset RP believes is the only subset women perceive as existing, so it makes sense women think all men think only what a small minority of them think. Then you said "no, I meant the redpill guys". The RedPill guys which is objectively not the case. Sure, I'd love to fuck ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 06:23 PM
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I did not. I answered both interpretations of "illegitimate" to quell any attempt by you or some other debater to claim they meant the other meaning. Ill repeat: If interpreted as "my kid is a bastard", no one cares about bastardization. It's not 1550. Most modern nations don't require official marriage to have half or partial claim over children. My country doesn't give a fuck whether you're married or not, you have the same rights with cohabitation past 6mo. Even if it did, this wouldn't be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:45 PM
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The issue of illegitimate children is a firstly a male concern. Women can guarantee the legitimacy of their children by not cheating (lol). Second, being a bastard has no implications whatsoever these days. Like 80% of the people I grew up with are technically "bastards". It's 2018. Who cares? Third, marriage doesn't solve the legitimacy of a man's children. Keeping his woman from cheating does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:30 PM
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Go read the replies in this very thread... commitment, sexual exclusivity, the legitimacy of children (strange one...), and female status, amongst others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:20 PM
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If you're a chreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeschin and believe you need to get married because God told you so, that is different than people who think they need to get married because the marriage license = solved problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:17 PM
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Perhaps worth is a better word than value in this case... If I need to write an essay and I think a water bottle will help me do that, my belief that a water bottle is worth more to me than a pen is a nonsense belief regardless the value I put on this water bottle... Women have problems they believe marriage will solve, yet it objectively doesn't solve almost any of them, so whilst they value marriage, it objectively has little worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:15 PM
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You've responded to an assessment of a value upon a belief with more belief in the value which was just assessed as objectively none, and denied that an analogy that demonstrates the value of an act has no value except the value it was given by the believer of that value by re-asserting your belief that it has value... That was complicated...in plain english, I told you marriage has no actual value because it doesn't solve any of your listed issues with not having marriage. Your counter argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:07 PM
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The value of marriage to women is the idea that it means something, not the actual marriage itself, as it objectively means nothing. Women perceive marriage as meaning they've succeeded in securing commitment, and the creation of a family. Of course it means none of these things, but the power of the belief is the actual value. And it's use as a status symbol, though the propensity of which I think is far lower than many here think imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:56 PM
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It's funny because this is something I've been thinking about for a while now... none of the (antiquated) issues you listed are solved by marriage. All you've done is sign some fairly arbitrary contracts that make it harder to separate without complication, but if he wants to anyone is still perfectly capable of peacing out on you. And besides, even if that's still a solace to you, if he wanted to leave but is turned off the idea by the paperwork, you've now binded yourself to someone who doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:51 PM
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I imagine because you cannot provide one. I don't know if you're new, but this is, like, super not the place for moral outrage as a stand-in for a real argument. In the immortal words of Ben Shapiro, no one cares how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:45 PM
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Does it? I treat men I care about in the same way I expect to be treated, with consideration and respect. All I see on this subreddit is people making huge generalisations and treating it as “logical” so they feel smarter cause they can come up with some bullshit unscientific “evolutionary psychology” and anecdotes. Everyone treats people they care about with consideration and respect. The most vile, mean-spirited person you can think of still has friends that think they're great... Hell, Pussy-…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:43 PM
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Dood, women redditors here are telling you the exact opposite. Who cares? I don't deal in personal anecdotes, I deal in sensible arguments. If you think women are still a second class demographic, (which is insane. There's literally a documentary on Netflix about women who make a better living than me being sugar babies whilst providing no actual sex...), then provide an argument for it. All you're doing thus far is employing shaming tactics. They are ,in fact, describing their own misfortunes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:28 PM
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Because I agree with his premise. "Educating yourself" may have been an appropriate response in 1918 when women were actually second class citizens in tangible ways. In 2018, women (or more correctly, soft-power social politics) basically have a stranglehold over the western world, being male is a faux-pas, and women are increasingly encouraged to partake in zero-sum gender relations. There is little (read: no) proof that women are inferior or oppressed in any way, and in fact if any gender is "…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:14 PM
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This is all just apex fallacy. If you consider only chads, you'd be correct; a single woman has next to no value to him, yet he has substantial value to her, but now you're just committing the same problem you wrote this post to highlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 04:09 PM
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One post on one subreddit doesn't represent 500,000+ people regardless of the viewpoint. The amount of RPs who don't agree upon RP theory in the first place is staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 03:58 PM
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Until she turns 16+ and realizes the soft power of her sexuality means she can do nothing in life and still win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 03:54 PM
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This sub is mostly blackpills who are the ones getting rejected by women because they do not meet the increasing desires of western women. The Redpill (and thus, the redpillers) are mostly just interested in treating women in the manner women treat men... Your criticism falls rather short.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 03:52 PM
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Shaming tactics does not an argument make.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 03:50 PM
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There shouldn't be any except those dealing with divorce and dividing assets. It should be a social contract, and a religious contract for christians. I don't think it should bestow tax benefits either. In canada, taxes are actually more complicated if you're married. In USA I think they give you a tax break...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 08:56 PM
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They want their needs met without having to expend much energy to give anything in return. The only men I've ever met who wanted their needs met and were willing to offer nothing in return are apex males... Most men are grateful enough that an attractive woman finds them compelling in anyway to begin with... This is why porn and SexBots come up so often here, in tandem with insisting men never marry. Porn comes up because it's a great alternative to dealing with modern women. Sexbots comes up be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 08:47 PM
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This is just demonstrating that radfems are unreasonable, not that AMALT actually exists. You can make the case AWALT is equally unreasonable...I wouldn't agree though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 06:15 AM
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I'm not really sure how to word my thoughts on this... I don't believe either gender owes the other anything, but they should be taught to. The problem is that certain demographics have been groomed into the belief that breaking social contracts is inconsequential. This is then exacerbated by the fact that women are now attempting to offer men a zero-sum game, and protesting when men don't lose in a manner that's convenient to them. I think this is lost on most women here because most women here…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:13 AM
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I never got this myself. Who gives a shit who Chad Von Chadwick Esquire the third is marrying? In my opinion, this shift in debate tactics seems to be coming from a handful of women who view themselves as upper class and are assuming what they see from upper class men is representative of all men. The conversation on this sub seems to be taking place between men who either view themselves as working class, or STEM nerds and women who started life 2 laps ahead, fell into a 6 figure salary and vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 03:55 AM
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Sure, why not? The difference is that what men have always been, men are not hiding. The issue with claims of "AMALT is a thing too!" is that men are far more diverse in their desires than women are, and how women "work" has largely been veiled by society and women themselves for a number of reasons that are another discussion entirely. That being said, I've never actually seen a woman come up with a real "AMALT". Even "men like hot girls!" isn't very good...men have far greater diversity of tas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 03:45 AM
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how do you think it would serve women OR MEN for wmen to be "less picky"? In what way does it serve men for women to be picky? There's a significant difference I think between "this person is picky" and "this person is completely unattracted". I certainly can be satisfied with an option without becoming overly critical of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 03:42 AM
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That doesn't mean you're a appropriate source of information on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 12:23 AM
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How would you know? You're a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 12:01 AM
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You realize you'd be one of the first ones gone if that were the case? You're at the top of the list of most of the reds I've spoken with on the topic of bluepills here. In any event, that's a slippery slope as 90% of feminists I speak to would agree I don't know what feminism means because my opinion of feminism is challenging, and I'd make the exact same claim back at them. You can apply this to every believe possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 11:51 PM
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No. What the CDC shows is that far more women have a relatively equal partner count than men. Men have a chunk at the top with >15 partners, a chunk at the bottom with <0 partners and a chunk in the middle with 3-5 partners before 50 (which is only one new partner a year, so not much...). Women, in contrast, have almost no chunk at all at 0, and most of their partners is the same as men 3-5, on paper, and ignoring that women tend to "partner swap", ie. they all take turns fucking the chad at wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 04:29 PM
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Right. So they are more promiscuous than men... The thing men beat women in is how much sex the promiscuous members are having; chads are having a lot more sex than staceys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 02:55 PM
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Women are absolutely more promiscuous than men. Saying otherwise is deliberately lying. It's mathematically impossible for men to be having more sex than women so long as you agree more women can get easily laid than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 10:57 PM
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I'm not saying people are inconsistent. I'm saying you'd think the number 1 criticism of TRP would be a disqualifying factor. When push comes to shove, it's not, and as I said in my initial post, it's ironic that women don't get (the opposite of autism) from alphas they select for either, lol. It's like a double win for TRP. Not only do women usually select for it, they wouldn't take the alternative even if it was offered...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 03:54 AM
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Are you saying this in reference to personal knowledge of the poster(s)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:20 PM
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I've never seen someone be so wrong. I was really rooting for you upon reading your first 5 words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:50 AM
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After tallying, sexism is winning by a not insignificant margin. I find it incredibly fascinating that for all the whinging women do about TRP and their sexism, they'd still select for it in favour of autism, which may be irritating, but manageable. Especially considering alpha males women select for don't offer women mushy gushy emotions anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:16 AM
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Most woman would prefer a sexist over an autistic imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:45 AM
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This is a really weak (vaguely Foreign/Indian) sounding argument, and probably amongst the weakest arguments that could be made on the topic. Women are no better than children because women cry and children cry is incredibly silly. Adult men cry too, for a myriad of reasons like their dog dying. The connection you're making for the foundation of your argument isn't even particularly strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:43 AM
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The question is a non starter because you're asking a group of people who are being disenfranchised what they'd prefer to have as a solution, which is a silly question because the obvious solution is simply to have women stop doing it. But of course they won't stop doing it because A) that requires good faith towards your fellow man which works on an individual basis and B) would require men have the ability or force to either censor or restrict women's opinions, which is far beyond us at this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:36 AM
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Neuroplasticity is an issue in learning, not emotional development, unless you have some sources that show that that is in fact the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 01:30 AM
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Weeelllll...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 06:21 PM
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Yes, apparently he's a brutal leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 06:19 PM
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I would disagree that something so specific is a non-conscious, natural process. It's pretty clearly a conscious bias brought on by human ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:51 AM
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Men want nice girls who are nice to them and are nice to look at. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:47 PM
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Clearly not true, or at least not a statement possessing any real virtue. It is not difficult to be more masculine than a woman. Even average beta choses are more masculine than most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:38 PM
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Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:33 PM
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That's probably accurate. I'd be interested in seeing what her relationship with her son is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:32 PM
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Does it seem reasonable to you that transgender cavemen were walking around complaining about those pesky cisgingers!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:31 PM
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No no you're giving women entirely too much credit. They simply think they're amazing, and their SO is going to be amazing so their kid is going to be amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 09:30 PM
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I never said women should offer anything. I said they offer nothing and think their company is intrinsically worth basically whatever she wants. Women have a super inflated self evaluation due to our current SMP. The amount of overweight, under employed, and poorly socialized women I see demanding younger, fit/atheltic, tall dark handsome, well employed men is jarring even given how jaded I currently am. The women who are actually kind of average or even attractive in looks always have garbage s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:56 PM
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I never understa d why you people think she's some kind of a victim. She volunteered for her lifestyle and partner. There are lots of wealthy Americans to gold dig. She chose that one. I'm sure she liked him in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:47 PM
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If this was true, I don't think this forum would exist for us to be talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:38 PM
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I believe in evolutionary psychology so long as it's used in the manner it was intended and people don't overreach. I've heard people try to use EP as justification for transgenderism and pair bonding for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:22 PM
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Great comments. My point exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:19 PM
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This isn't true unless you're talking about the boardroom elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:16 PM
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I've heard stories that when people at Tesla ask him for a raise, he forces them to go on leave, does their job and his job for a week and if he doesn't find it challenging, he fires them instead. He's never given someone a raise apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:10 PM
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It's less that I or any particular man is a prize and more that women in our culture think they are when they're not offering anything either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:06 PM
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Oh, I mean, I don't think that even really matters. I think culturally speaking, men have a lot more respect for women than women have holistically for men. I don't think granulating the issue to just athletics is necessary. It just struck me as kind of funny that women always think their sons are going to be alphachads but shame everything that makes alpha chads not beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:23 AM
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I think sports are productive for males. That's a no-brainer. I'm unsure who could ever disagree with that, unless your boy is naturally ungifted in athletics in which case it could actually do some damage. That being said, I find it's interesting that there's a cognitive dissonance women tend to have with their male sons where they invision their male sons doing all the male things and being an alpha (because all women think their kid is going to be chad for some reason), but then they shame al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:25 AM
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I don't think I've ever smelled a half caramelized onion...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 09:37 AM
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Dude, I've always said men smell like cheese and women smell like flowers and liqueur. #ItsNotJustMe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:42 AM
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Weinstien mostly begged women to let him do weird things in his presence. Other than blocking the door, I did not hear of him committing any actual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:27 AM
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Likely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:17 PM
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Why would you be looking for specific examples on PPD? The BluePills here aren't even BluePill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:16 PM
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If you go to women's space, or ask women for advice, they will generally give you poor or inadvisable advice. In the same breath they'll say "RP is gross and misogynistic. Learn to respect women and go out and meet women in real life instead of being indoctrinated into a hate cult", whilst also telling men not to bother women pretty much any place except a night club. This advice is of course in the best interest of women, not you, because it's super convenient; they get to never have to deal wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:12 PM
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Nope. You don't need hard power if you have soft power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:06 PM
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First and foremost, you have to dissect each individual situation. Many of these "sexual harassment" allegations are just women crying "ME TOOO!!" for otherwise consensual or...shall I say "not NOT consensual" behavior. If a guy whips out his dick in his own trailer and you just sit there, you weren't sexually harassed. He's kind of a weirdo, but you were not sexually harassed. Most of the allegations end up reading in this fashion. The only ones I've heard so far that were real crimes was Kevin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:00 PM
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Why do so many men think women will care if large chunks of men leave the SMP? There are no women in this forum who've even met a man who was in the bottom 60%, let alone cry over them leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:55 PM
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Much generous. Such altruism. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:53 PM
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every thing I got I worked for so Lol, unless you're a swamp monster, no you didn't. That being said, I do think the question is dumb. Why do so many men think women will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:49 PM
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Because people want other people to have overwhelmingly positive opinions about you. What even is this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:48 PM
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Average girls (5) + bought SMV (make up, clothing) = 6, 6.5/10. It sensible to perceive the average woman as something other than ordinary if you never see her in the morning and at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:46 PM
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You're saying they're stuck inside a cycle. I'm saying this is just the intuitive conclusion of people who aren't big on critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:40 PM
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na, we're mostly just laughing at you guys. no one's afraid. That's a lie. There are posts and replies almost weekly of people claiming they're genuinely afraid of RP growing, relatives "falling" to RP and how BP people need to petition the admins to get RP content banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:39 PM
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BluePills aren't stuck in any phase, at least not like you're describing. I'm constantly surprised how many people don't know what bluepill is, or how actual bluepills think. BluePills believe in a set of fundamentally tautological and self-validating world views they also believe to be axiomatic. ie. "redpill men can't get laid because they don't respect women. Men who respect women get laid. They respect women because they disagree with RedPill. If a RedPill gets laid, he must have tricked a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:20 AM
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Both you and /u/misunderstood_9gager are wrong.... BPers fundamentally believe douchebags don't get laid and RP tactics don't work, or only work on mentally vulnerable women. When confronted with RP tactics working, they chalk it up to the seducer being a predator that should be stopped (by whatever means context deems appropriate)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:11 AM
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Guys much uglier and poorer than him get laid using Tinder all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:10 AM
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I didn't say I could, I said a 1/10 success rate was considered low. I personally would consider a man who can only get 1 out of every 10 women he meets to sleep with him a low quality man assuming he doesn't have severely broken game or other issues and is a normal, social guy with an interest in women and casual sex. The title of PUA was earned at 3/10. Ie. tripling your success rate. 5/10 meant you could be an instructor and charge thousands for your services.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 01:36 AM
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These questions are traps for bluepillers to see who is actually redpill and being intellectually dishonest. The issue is the irony of BluePillers whom typically take a moral stance against the the notion of human heirarchy and believe in the perceived intrinsic value of each individual as equal ie. chad and joe beta are equals, some girls just like chad and some girls just like joe beta, and his real problem is not respecting women hard enough (or whatever). If /u/Butt_Factory was really bluepi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 01:29 AM
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The only thing that really matters now is looks. If you're a guy, get muscles and try to appeal to women who like that, but that's a whole lifestyle most people are unwilling to shift their lifestyle so dramatically. Or go for much younger girls who are easy to impress and don't really know anything yet. Only other option is go MGTOW, and leave the game. Get your satisfaction in life from other venues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:34 AM
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This is kind of a bait-and-switch article considering he wasn't nearly as unsuccessful as the article/post was making it seem. 150 dates in which 34 women wanted to see you over 3 times is quite solid, especially when you're an engineer with what I can only imagine is horrible beta normie game. That being said, I don't get how your logic works....5% is a horrible success rate. Even back in the PUA days, 10% was considered bad for an average guy. 150 dates from 200,000 women is a horrible rate as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:23 AM
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The point is that your statement isn't true...lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:13 AM
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There was already an app for android that connected to tinder, an auto liked every available woman in your city. Tinder changed their app so it didn't work within the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:12 AM
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In my experience, few women are using Tinder for casual encounters. They either use it for validation, promoting their Instagram, or using it as a more convenient means of finding LTRs. Half these chicks profiles even say "omg, no hookupzzzz".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:10 AM
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Look at you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:07 AM
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It's easy not to care about bitches when your balls are drained bro. Porn is your friend, lolol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:07 AM
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The amount of women I encounter who are nothing special, even below average and significantly overweight who can demand attractive men from the marketplace and get them with relative ease is astonishing and depressing. A woman I recently met gets through hard financial times giving men lapdances for pay, and she has no issues getting customers. I would never in a million years pay this woman for a lapdance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 12:04 AM
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You said that women who are victims of harassment are hypoagents. No I didn't. I said women are viewed as hypoagents by a western society via the overtone of feminism, and biases that grant women these social privileges. Terry Crews may be viewed as victim, but not as a hypoagent. I have never heard anyone make that claim outside of defenders of sexual harassers. That's not possible unless you've been locked in a bathroom since 1950. Are you sure you understand what the implications of society v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 11:52 PM
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You have got to be amongst the weakest debaters I've ever encountered on this subreddit. If you can't form a coherent response, just say so. Why are you wasting both our times with this passive aggressive attempt to dodge the questions crap? If you don't want to continue the conversation, just don't reply, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 11:39 PM
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Those are impressive feats. Why wouldn't I be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 11:37 PM
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You're making like-minded arguments that are worse or in no way more reasonable than the argument you're claiming not to be making. if one person finds you attractive enough to fuck and, especially, marry you that it is incredibly unlikely that they are the only person attracted to you. THIS IS NOT RELEVANT UNLESS THE PERSON IS GENERALLY ATTRACTIVE. Honey-boo-boo's mom got married. She is disgusting. She qualifies as most people's definition of disgusting. Someone married her. It is true that mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:35 PM
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That is not what's being claimed whatsoever...Reread the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:22 PM
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All the most social and attractive guys I know are constantly in relationships throughout their 20s. There may be a few that don't want that but they're in the minority. Your one life is not proof that the 115,000,000 men living in north america would prefer to sew their oats instead of be shipped. Even if it was, being in a relationship doesn't prove otherwise. It proves they were attractive enough to find a woman attractive enough to make make the trade off worthwhile. Most men don't have this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:12 PM
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I reckon most guys prefer a relationship. Wrong. You live on another planet level wrong. So having said, do you really believe most men would rather be single getting pussy rather than settling down with someone they love? You forgot "for a significant portion of their youth" to which I'd say yes. That's retardedly obvious social paradigm in pretty much all western culture. I think you seriously overestimate how many men want to be like Dan Bilzerian. No way in hell do most men want to have fake…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:42 PM
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Ok, but that's irrelevant to the original point. The original point is that they are viewed in this manner regardless of what it "means" to have your agency violated and that it is otherworldly to claim otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:39 PM
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Can you find any examples of people calling Crews weak for suing his attacker? If I go find an example, your modus operendi is to deny it. What source are you looking for? Set a goalpost. But he didn't consent. He was groped against his will. Right. Can you provide examples of anyone viewing Crews as a hypoagent?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:11 PM
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My point is that hot guys get laid regardless. Ie. water is not often times wet, it's just wet all the time, because it's water. Ie2. Saying "water is wet" adds nothing to the conversation, which is why I took issue with you saying it and assumed you must have meant to say something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:02 PM
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They're viewed as weak men intellectually appropriating a female issue to play "me too" games. Terry Crews would never be viewed as a "victim" if he gave consent for someone in a superior position to perform sexual actions in his vacinity if he later accused the woman of sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:54 PM
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Maybe in your bubble universe. Here on earth they were out and out considered victims due to "power imbalance" and Louis's career has been ended on their behalf. That was a weird angle for you to take. You're notably dishonest, but you're not usually not that dishonest. Are we having a bad day?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:19 PM
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I don't get the joke. I mean, I didn't say "ugly men who whiteknight often dont get laid.". I guess I don't understand. The inaccuracy and superfluousness of "water is often times wet" is akin to the inaccuracy and superfluousness of "hot guys who white knight get laid".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:08 PM
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This conversation = Me: "1 + 1 is 2" You: "No, pudding is delicious". Me: "No one's talking about pudding. We're talking about the value of numbers" You: "I don't think you understand how tasty pudding is..." What are you even talking about. Cite what it is you're talking about. What are we "just getting a handle on". What are "internet trolls" trolling about. What is this "pervasive problem". How is this problem pervasive? How does any of this relate to the original argument presented?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:54 PM
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You're gathering WAY MORE than i intended from my comment, including presumptions about me, which is NO WAY to debate with someone. Very bad debate form. So is replying with condescension and attitude when someone makes a particularly reasonable response to something you seem to be suggesting... "water is often times wet" is stupid. "water is wet" is what you mean. LMAO. You understand that that is the entire point of the joke...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:50 PM
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Yes, because you literally stated hot men who white knight get laid. Had you believed hot men get laid purely by virtue of being hot and white knighting was irrelevant, you wouldn't have written otherwise. Had you meant to say what you're now claiming you meant to say, there would be no purpose to your comment as "ugly men don't get laid" is akin to "water is often times wet".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:40 PM
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No. Hot men get laid because they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:34 PM
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White knighting is an attempt to gain access to women by exchanging various aspects of your personal dignity and feigning masculinity (male protectiveness). In a world where there is no real knowledge of how masculinity or attraction works, plus the fact that women encourage it pretty hard because it benefits them, I actually do not blame white knights for thinking is a sensible strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:29 PM
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I don't think I ever used the word "most". You should read the words in my comments instead of the ones you have in your head. ...Your entire point of contention is that someone suggested getting married is not correlated to being an attractive person. If you did not imply "most", and therefore agree that there is no correlation between getting married and being generally attractive, why are you arguing? Again, we ain't special. If one person will fuck you and, especially, marry you it's very li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:24 PM
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We know rape and sexual assault happens and it's a pervasive threat because of the sheer amount of male and female victims that have come forward from all strata of society and all those that have admitted to it and those that have been prosecuted and convicted. That's a weird argument. 1000 women could come forward tomorrow and it would not in any way mean sexual assault is a pervasive threat. According to the FBI, male on female violence (of which sexual assault qualifies) only makes up someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 06:01 PM
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It means someone finds you attractive enough, in some way, to marry you. There are 7 billion people on this planet and we ain't unicorns, so if one person thinks you're attractive enough then it's likely others do, too. "At least one person finds this person attractive" =/= "most people find this person attractive". The level of difference between these two concepts is cosmic scale. I'm unsure what specifically about this concept is causing you to believe marrying one person means most people wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 05:51 PM
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Getting married and being attractive are not correlative. Even if they were correlative, it only makes you attractive to 1 person. Being attractive to one person is in no way correlated to being attractive in general. She could be the only 1 person in his entire city who would have him for all we know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:56 PM
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Getting married doesn't mean you're attractive. Lots of ugly people marry the first person who'll take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:54 PM
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I agree with the first half. That's an issue I rarely see cited, but nevertheless is something I've discussed with people before. Feminism really kind of ruined the balance of "Americana" by devaluing labour, doubling the tax payer base, and destroying the nuclear family unit, but I think our current problems are more nuanced than that. I don't think white women would be shacking up with indian doctors even if the old system was still in place. I think the current issue has more to do with femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:44 PM
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Holy shit. That's insightful...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:39 PM
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I remembere when this study came out and it was just as stupid then as it was now. They in no way accounted for the fact that whether you're good or bad at video games, people are going to call you a faggot and talk about fucking your mom anyways. The "study" is trash Sarkeesian level pseudo science. They also didn't account for what "skill" meant. The players at the top of the scoreboard could just be good at that map, use cheesy strats, have payware content, etc. There are far too many factors…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:35 PM
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Louis CK just lost his career for asking women for consent to jerk off in front of them. The women were perceived as victims irrespective of their consent because society views women as hypoagents.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:27 PM
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That's not how the criminal justice system works. You don't get less harsh punishments because your demographic is well behaved, lol...(unless the judge is racist/sexist,etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:25 PM
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That's a lie if I ever heard one. If you cared about "good faith", over half the posts on this subreddit would be removed...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:23 PM
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Your sex doesn't determine whether you are a decent human being or not. Weeeeelllll......
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:21 PM
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because "white knighting" is not part of feminism Male "allies" are absolutely a part of feminism and feminists hold seminars to educate people how to "recruit" men into feminism. because you've lost touch with reality if you think women are being infantilized today more than in the past. Yes they are. The believe that women are hypoagents is far more infantalizing than the believe that women shouldn't vote because they can't make good choices...One is suggesting women suck at certain things, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:17 PM
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Yes it is, because it literally happens all the time. OP could have used better examples, but it would take cosmic level intellectual dishonesty to deny this is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:12 PM
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Assigned mates. Government established mating could be mandated on, say, a 2 year basis. At the end of your 2 years, you rotate to a new assigned partner. If you happen to really like your previous partner, you can put in to stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:08 PM
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I think this post is conflating having a misunderstanding of SMP with being some sort of "it gets better" type view of someone's particular and current situation. If you're an attractive man, young, old whatever, you will get play. I've never seen any evidence in real life that things like a career or a five oclock shadow matter to a 20yr old girl. 20yr old girls generally are ok with hot 20yr old guys. My muslim friend (24) with no game is currently juggling 4 different hot white girls right no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 04:00 PM
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Most men past the age of 20 don't think banging another girl every other night is better than being in a relationship with someone you love. Please...tell me more about all these men who don't wanna fuck a harem of hot women. Parts of the red pill have good advice but other parts are like some 15 year olds fantasy that most men tire of very quickly. Ok, in seriousness, I will agree that there are a good number of men who do prefer a relationship to casual sex. But the amount you seem to believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:52 PM
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Then I don't think you know men very well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 11:03 PM
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I've literally never understood that. Their entire belief structure is founded on moral superiority yet they spend their day insulting people they simultaneously believe have mental health issues...? Such role model. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 10:41 PM
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Social proof is a powerful psychological bias. Perhaps the most powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:20 AM
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I'm not really sure what your premise is. You sound like you're kind of just being obstinate about this. Are you saying that you believe fundamentally that men in pictures alone are more attractive than men in pictures with many attractive women he knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:19 AM
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Well RMV seems to suggest that a man who's not exactly the best in terms of SMV is overcoming with his personality, job, warm personality, etc. Emotional and/or resource providing... I've never seen a woman who could get an attractive man pick a RMV slanted man over just going through SMV slanted men until they found one that wasn't as much of a chadly asshole as the ones that came before. This suggests to me that RMV isn't really a thing, it's really just all SMV and which level of SMV these wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:17 AM
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[Slow claps] Goddamn American hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 01:08 AM
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That's interesting Because I am that type of guy. But I also fucking love boobies, so I did all the TRP stuff of self-improvement and eventually got to be OK with girls. Not alpha but not a loser virgin too (Had some pretty impressive successes here and then). But I fucking hate the game and the process, but also really really like sex with different women. It kinda tears me apart. I was mostly being hyperbolic, of course there is going to be a crossover of successful men who enjoy intellectual …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:57 AM
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You're thinking one dimensionally. People in general, not even just women, tend only to respect what is not in abundance. A hot guy who pays her some attention, and knows how to make himself a rare commodity is very attractive. Most players are decent at either imitating or possessing this skill/knowledge. Further, women are hyper competitive. The only people who hate women more than misogynists are other women. Seeing men pay attention to other women after she thought she was getting somewhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:46 AM
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That's not the same thing. That makes you look like a cheater. Even though women tend not to care about fidelity, that is not exactly a "best foot forward". A picture of yourself at a party with attractive women on the other hand, is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:01 AM
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Because guys just have pictures of themselves with high quality women just lying around...? Social proof is probably the most powerful psychological bias in human sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:47 AM
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What? No, I mean women compete for you. You no longer have to go through the typical rigors of male mate hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:25 AM
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Back in the day, when PUA was big, social experiments suggested it increases success by a significant margin. The other big factors were income and height. Dan Bilzarian effect; girls see you with hot girls you're likely fucking = they want in on it because you're high value, so she should be fucking you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:15 AM
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Not quite the same dichotomy. A player is hot because he is wanted by other women. Gold diggers are hot despite being trashy. One is wanted for a negative quality that amplifies his hotness. The other is wanted dispite the negative quality that would otherwise tank her hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:27 AM
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Wrong. I agree with everything you said except the last part. Your conclusion doens't follow from your argument. By definition a player can't be a player unless he's hot, so you're literally factually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:33 AM
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“All over the place” is a non answer. No, it's a perfectly acceptable answer. They make up like 80% of the male population. Go outside, walk a mile in any direction, and you'll probably lay eyes on at least 5 assuming you don't live in a cornfield in iowa. At the grocery store or running errands: lol I don’t meet people here. You try going up to multiple random women at the grocery store. So then approach the ones you see yourself. Enlighten me. Where else am I supposed to look? He needs to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:16 PM
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Being skinny isn't really a disqualifier for being attractive. But you're right, unless I saw pics, there is no real credibility to your story(ies) imo. Not that I'm calling you a liar, more that your stated stories are incongruent with your descriptions according to my lived experience thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:12 PM
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They typically have to hide this about themselves No, they don't. That's not the same thing as liking the fact that they are womanizers It's a cognitive dissonance imo. They don't like that they're womanizers, I'm sure they preferred they weren't on paper, but if they weren't womanizers, they'd not be as attractive, and she wants him because she's that attractive in the first place, so fulfilling her desire would mean causing her not to have that desire in the first place. Women only want what o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:10 PM
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He could be by virtue of women coming to him...It'd be harder for him of course. But when you're a 9/10 man, you basically become a woman, as far as the SMP is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:07 PM
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All over the place. Like I said, if you "never meet men worth going after", the men you think are worth going after are out of your league. Stop chad chasing and the world is filled with decent betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:06 PM
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I don't actually think he's THAT immasculine, he's more a freakazoid than ambiguous of feminine. But, I take your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:04 PM
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Women like attractive men. Attractive men tend to be womanizers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:03 PM
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If you can't get a good, stable man, the men you want are either not good, not stable, or too attractive for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:03 PM
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That's an insane position. Though, I'd say Tinder is really more of a reflection on what society has become than society has become something because of Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:59 PM
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Strange argument, but whatevs bro. Do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:57 PM
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No, the lumberjack will do somewhat better Quantify "somewhat". But the incongruence means his personality is playing a factor What? You're telling someone to be someone they are not, and then saying "the incongruence is their personality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:14 PM
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Plumbing is traditionally masculine. Let's use something more mainstream... being a lumberjack. An ugly lumberjack isn't going to do any better than an ugly office worker. Give him drugs, tatoos, and a motorcycle. 1) You're drinking too much IRC koolaid 2) That is completely incongruent with who he is. Incongruency is a critical factor in unattractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:49 PM
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The disdain for plumbers usually comes from them being stereotyped as obese or close to it? Or Luigi. Luigi isn't fat. He's tall and lanky. I'm being hyperbolic. Point being, it's not the act that is hot, it's the man performing it. No one cares about plumbing. They care about hot guy being masculine doing plumbing. A not-hot guy plumbing may be masculine but it's no longer attractive. Player ness is hardly based on looks, behavior plays a huge part in it. Not really. The ability to be a player …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:50 PM
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I don't agree. I have never seen any proof of this. As always, look at what women do and not what they say. Yes, there is a niche of women who like the burly lumberjack type, or the guy who can actually fix your car, but they do not like ugly men who can fix your car. Mario and Luigi showing up at her house to fix her kitchen sink isn't going to wet any panties, and it's pretty obvious if we look at celebrities and who women actually find overtly attractive, they mostly have nothing inherently m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:43 PM
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We live in what I call "Tinder" culture. Mating is basically just a swipe now if they like your picture. It's a great metaphor for how life works these days. No one really cares about the value of the content, or character. Things not working out with a beau? Whatever, ghost them. Confrontation with a friend? Whatever, get new ones. Why bother working anything out in uber disposable humans culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:19 PM
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No, there is an overabundance of stable, good men. What they want are apex males who are willing to be alpha bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:13 PM
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Which is really just being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:53 PM
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Female failure is having $10 million in a room full people with $13 million. Women have to put in a pretty concerted effort to actually fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:52 PM
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Being called a "nerd" doesn't mean anything anymore in 2017. The same people who say "he's a nerd; it's not just about chad!" are the same people who think that handsome british guy from Dr.Who is a good example of a low value man... lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:33 PM
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Your assuming a premise of everyone being equally shitty, which I don't agree with and most redPills don't seem to agree with. I can believe people in general are not inherently good (I don't; I do think, however that most men are decent), but believe women are particularly and uniquely even worse (which I generally believe as true)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:18 PM
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But still, it sounds like you're using a definition of game that inherently can't fail. No one's doing that. Game can of course fail. I've already given you that you were correct about the first guy. I can't say that's not game and remain intellectually honest. Fine. and in order to be an ongoing process the girl has to be receptive to it, but if she's receptive to it then it didn't fail. Wrong. If a guy's going strong, and one night someone zings him good and he runs away crying, and your vagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:58 PM
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Assuming your opinion is correct, which in my opinion it is not, so...back'atcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:52 PM
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You're missing my point. I don't buy into the premise that girl-game is enough of a "thing" to fall into a subtype almost anything to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:48 PM
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I'd actually counter and say hate doens't have to make sense. It's just hate. I can say I hate scorpions because they're trash animals that contribute nothing and threaten people. It's not reasonable for me to hate an animal doing it's animal thing, but who cares? Mosquitos...mosquitos are trash. We should genocide all mosquitos. There was actually a scientific paper written a while ago in something I read suggesting extincting mosquitoes might actually be in the greater good, and experiments in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:44 PM
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This is a somewhat ironic statement given the content of RedPill would not reasonably allow for your conclusion to be... reasonable. This is kind of like saying "anyone who believes in trickle-down economics is an idiot" whilst ignoring the people you're talking to are republicans whilst also providing no argument as to why their premise is wrong... It just makes you look smug, and contributes nothing. Most of your posts actually just validate the TRP believe that women are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:40 PM
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Your question doesn't make much sense. You can't read TRP, believe it, and come away with a reasonably positive opinion of women, unless you're already top 20% chads. The question basically answers itself if you know anything about the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:34 PM
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Ok well that makes much more sense, though his response is still cringe. I would still say that's not really game failing though is there was no input by you, as there was no game being played. It was still a guy just touching you all night. Though it's weird you allowed him to continue touching you... Meh. Ambiguous imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:29 PM
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That's like saying a wheel is a subtype of "cars".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:26 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7e19tm/question_for_men_tell_us_a_story_about_when_girl/dq1rjd6/ Post I just wrote about what I think "game" really is. I guess Ill have to give you the first guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:26 PM
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Game is just that, the playing of a game. The first guy got as far as the opener, which was blatantly retarded way to open a woman. The second there was literally no game at all from the way you tell it, it sounds like he was just trying to bump into you enough times you notice him or something, and then jacked your phone (lol) in a cringy way to shame you for not liking him bumping into you or something. I'll go so far as to allow you the first example as relevant in the interest of fairness, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:21 PM
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The second guy isn't gaming. He's trying to get your attention with no game at all, failed, and pulled a cringy beta move. The first guy's an idiot. These aren't really examples of the game itself failing. Rather, they're poor personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:07 PM
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This post is really thought provoking. What a welcome change from the trashy stuff we usually get. Nice. I have thought about the points you raise for quite some time. If every man had TRP, if TRP was taught in schools even as some RP's wish, women would still win. They'd win even harder because now they have higher value men spending more time and resources competing for them than previously without them having to do anything themselves. TRP is essentially decreasing the success of men universa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:05 PM
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He's not a "homeless guy", he's a guy who happens to not have a home. Those are two pretty distinct things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:42 PM
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No. I dreamed about hundreds of girls I never spoke to because the chance she'd respond positively were infinitesimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:41 PM
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Most of them don't exist. All there is is value. SMV and value are typically synonymous, though the concept of "value" seems to have been almost completely abstracted and made unintelligible as of late for some reason, so SMV suffices. That being said, whilst others make arguments in favour of the existence of RMV, I've never seen any proof of it's existence personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:39 PM
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"Girl game" is a fiction. Game refers to manipulations psychological framing so as to bring about specific behaviors and desires in another person. Most of what's labelled "girl game" is just being actually interesting to talk to and have enough emotional intelligence to understand psychological obstacles are in the other person's way. This is not "game".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:37 PM
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Or, the attention you get goes unnoticed because you don't care about those providing the attention. Someone like you, with your cited personality is unlikely to notice attention unless it's from exceptional men. I doubt you even remember the names of men below 8/10. This is a far more reasonable conclusion than all men's collective experience in the community being plainly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:28 PM
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But I am smart, wealthy, athletic. These things are objective. I never have to say it in real life because it's obvious, but online you don't know me, so I can only say it. I was the best student in my high school, the best swimmer on my swim team, and probably the richest of my frien Because if there's one thing we've learned, it's that everyone claiming to be smart, wealthy and athletic online must be telling the truth. I wasn't catty nor selfish nor rude. Yes, that's super apparent....lol I n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:13 PM
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Set a goalpost or stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:48 PM
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Ok, let's restart because for about a weak, this has been you treading water, ad-hom'ing to avoid having to cite what it was you want sourced, and me giving this conversation minimal attention because it's pretty clear you're hyper invested in your arrogance and don't want to admit a number of things you'd be forced to. Therefore, first to make it abundantly clear, your argument is that culture, upbringing, peergroups, location, and circumstance have 0% influence on who a person grows to become,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:31 AM
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No, this is a female myth perpetuated by other females to stop women from just going after the men they want because it decreases the chance he'll approach her instead. Never has any man ever said "man, she's a really great girl and super cute, but she approached me. What a whore. Oh well...", lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:23 AM
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Yes. I don't know where you live. Maybe where you live the proportions are different, but very few people actively work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:20 AM
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No you actually did not. You told me to "look over my statement" in which I made multiple points. Making a sensible and coherent isn't "treating someone like a baby". Stop being a dumbhole, and either ask sensible questions or stop making undefendable arguments and then acting obstinate when you get called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:53 PM
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No it's not. Stacy has the energy to throw herself at the entire student body. She's extroverted, she's naturally flirty, she's good at this. She's always on every time she interacts with a guy no matter how small the interaction. Dude. no. This post speaks purely and rather amazingly to female solipsism and a lack of knowledge of human social dynamics beyond chads and stacys. No stacy in the history of stacy is "throwing herself at the entire student body". Stacy hangs out with the jocks and mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:45 PM
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How would you like to be emasculated by circumstances and situation? As much as men hate being emasculated I think women hate the female equivalent of it just as much. I'm saying the severity of the male situation and the female situation are not the same. I do agree the situation is not ideal for the natural desires of each gender. You say welcome to being a man but they don't really want to be a man. Too bad for them. Life is full of disappointments. So being forced into a situation where they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:21 PM
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Welcome to being a man. You're comparing two things of very differing severity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:22 PM
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I'd go as far as saying men don't notice women unless the women throw themselves at the men. That's why young guys all end up orbiting the same Stacy. This is logically inconsistent. Stacy doesn't have the time, energy or will to throw herself at the entire student body, so how are men jonesing for her if they only see women who throw themselves at her. I've literally had former incel friends tell me they started getting laid when they stopped hoping they would get sex from that one Stacy with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:19 PM
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I get that that is probably how they feel, but it's not a sensible approach. A guy having to hire prostitutes is admitting he requires to pay for someone's attention instead of be worth spending time with as a human being. A woman having to approach a man herself might be inglorious, but you're still succeeding of your own merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:07 PM
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Point out what claims you want cited or stfu. Your screen name is checking out hard right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:57 PM
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THis is just you. Relatively no one goes to the gym. Few people even actively work out. Most people are just riding on genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:56 PM
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Beta bux is one half of a social theory, the idea being that when women are young and slutty, they ride a cock carousel of chads, and when they get older and either can no longer attract the quality of man they want, or decide that a chad isn't going to give them a family, they settle for less attractive provider type beta males. It's generally insulting for/to men to be considered "beta bux". Having a girlfriend in college doesn't make you not a beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:52 PM
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The problem for less attractive women is no one's telling them how to be successful. Most "less attractive" women (I won't even say ugly because it takes a woman considerable daily effort to actually be "ugly") try to compete with their more attractive friends by being equally as passive. If your cumulative approach to attraction is sitting on a bar stool, doing nothing, waiting for the best men to approach you, which is what most women do and are taught to do, then you're obviously going to los…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:42 PM
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In my experience, it's not that women like or are attracted to "funny" men, it's that any man she likes becomes "funny" by the transient property of her attraction to him. Women tend to deify their love interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:37 PM
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Logic 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:10 AM
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I would back it up if you'd cite what it was you wanted backed up. I could just as easily demand you provide sources for everything in your post history, and you obviously won't therefore I can call you a cunty liar too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:10 AM
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Declare specifically what you want a "science" on, or I'm not doing your homework for you to continue living in your own bubble world of anti-intellectualism and sickening female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:01 AM
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As long as there's no physical proof, it's a belief. Can you provide me physical proof your hedonism is good for everyone and I should support you in being a slut? Unlikely, because I can go over to some incel subreddit and find counter-proof that you've hurt someone, ...making it a belief. Logic 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 01:57 AM
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Whatever you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:35 AM
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It's not about them being worth more, its about people choosing to date them Right, so they're worth more. Just like some great people with 3 PhDs just aren't hireable due to a lack of social skills. Doesn't make them worth less Yes it does. They're unhirable...If you lack a critical community skill, someone with 1 PHD who has it is worth more than someone with 3 who doesn't. Logic 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:34 PM
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You seem so far removed from reality. Like you have these weird, preconceived, entirely arbitrary notions that are just going to stay there. As if you were abused by a woman at some point. "I have no way to counter this. Quick, concern troll!" Also, what in the fuck is wrong with hedonism if you're not hurting anyone? I just explained it to you in a series of paragraphs. Were you even reading? I imagine not, that would require intellectual honesty. Something else women rarely have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:32 PM
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None of this had anything to do with what I wrote, and /u/IAmSamurai already pointed out pretty strongly the errors in your logic, so I won't bother replying. Your problem is you're approaching the subject from the stance that women are inherently superior beings, and men are inherently inferior beings, which is both super sexist (irony) and logically nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:29 PM
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Right...so they're worth more than others. If you've decided one person is worth genetic replication and the other person is not, you've made a value judgement. You're still advocating heirarchy based dating. You lose all credibility when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:22 PM
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No one ever claimed that, so I will not be doing any work to find you sources that claim that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:21 PM
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Can't handle what? I handle it just fine. You can go do whatever the fuck you wanna do, I'm not the one with a gun to your head. I'm simply calling you on your bullshit and your own lack of self awareness you're trying to place at my feet. You said I don't know what it's like to be a woman...that doesn't sound like the words of a woman who should be preaching to anyone about responsibility and snowflake'ism. You can throw around names like misogyny all you like, you haven't offered a single rebu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:04 AM
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Then why are you denying it. You literally said you disagreed with SMP but that you agreed with SMP. If you believe in what you just wrote you believe in then you do believe in class based sexuality, and you do believe in human ranking systems (ie. that some humans are inherently worth more than others, ie2 alpha vs beta vs omega) And now the BluePill is dead because you're forced to buy into every RedPill premise...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:58 AM
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"We deny the existence of potassium rich edible botanical berries produced by several large kinds of herbaceous flowering plants characterized by a thick waxy peel, and instead believe in bananas."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:54 AM
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I'm glad you did. You should write a blog post about it or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:44 AM
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In a massive nutshell, it's not a direct harm. It's an indirect harm. The more women feel chad-chasing, and carousel riding are desirable lifestyles, the less likely various types of men and lifestyles they'll desire. We already see this with the radical narrowing of which men are found ideal and/or attractive. We wouldn't have these societal problems if the issues the RedPill speaks about weren't allowed to happen: A) too many women think they are worth more than they are B) too many women ride…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:43 AM
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Nothing you said made sense. First of all, they deny the marketplace not me. I never said it made sense because these are not my beliefs. Duh. Second, a marketplace isn't a marketplace if the buying and selling price is random. Then you have a personal barter system that doesn't extend beyond the participating individuals, which is closer to what real BluePills believe. Third, no one is dictating a price and the phrase "they're just dictating their price" doesn't make any sense with anything you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:24 AM
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Then I feel genuinely sorrier for you than I previously did, hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:21 AM
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strawman I don't think that means what you think it means. It's not a straw man. They deny rank based/class based sexuality and posit attraction is both correlated and causated by an appreciation of personal qualities from one individual to another so as to be essentially random. No one can simultaneously deny class based sexuality but then admit some factors are more attractive then others; that's just re-asserting class based sexuality. having a good attitude towards women helps, but it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 04:19 AM
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Your one liners aren't as witty as you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 02:09 AM
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Hey, I'm not the one avoiding simple questions here. You know exactly where I'm going with this and you know I'm right. I know exactly where you're going because I quite accurately said as much 2 replies ago and even included an entertaining little anecdote. Duh. That doesn't mean I'm going to let you get away with asking stupid questions that don't parse logically. If you expect me or anyone else to take you seriously, take yourself seriously first and present an intelligent question that makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:49 AM
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I mean this quite seriously, it's amazing how criticizing any aspect of whatever women want or the even minor suggestion that the way in which they behave is not A+ golden, results in ridiculous questions about why you hate women. Maybe you should consider why you are so intolerant of people who disagree with the biblical infallibility you seem to believe your lifestyle possesses? None of what you said made any sense. It seemed to me more like you were having an emotional reaction to having to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:44 AM
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you both frictionlessly accept that sex is a marketplace Nope. One of the founding BluePill principles is the disbelief that sex is in any way systemized. They believe it to be essentially magic and that success with the opposite sex relies primarily on personal regard/attitude towards them. Ie. "you can't get women because you don't respect them!" Most of the BluePillers around here who would agree with RP take on marketplace existence are fake blues and not representative of the actual BluePil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:31 AM
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I don't see any purpose to night clubs unless you're a chad. Otherwise it's mostly a waste of money on overpriced drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:27 AM
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I'll dumb it down for you. You've done a pretty good job thusfar doing that for yourself, babydoll. Were you raised in a religious household? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:22 AM
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You're just a pot calling a kettle black right now. You've provided no real convincing argument and you're not even arguing me anymore, you're arguing science. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:21 AM
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0 isn't a negative number. Does that mean it's a positive number? That's a false dichotomy. You specifically said "being a slut isn't bad". If you believe being a slut is ambiguous, and that some people may disagree and they're free to do so, you wouldn't have felt to the need to write a snarky one liner about sexual promiscuity being "not bad". That suggests you think it's either good, or at least, unharmful/unworthy of shame and that you believe this should be or should be made to be a moral m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:17 AM
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And I very straight-forwardly pointed out the question makes no sense. You might as well ask me who invented purple... You're fishing for answers; you're hoping I say "umm...no one, I did :S knees shaking" so you can say "Well then maybe you need to take some personal responsibility for yourself you disgusting example of human pond scum!" and then close your laptop and go bring some Tinder chad over for you to sex whilst eating a peanut butter sandwich or something, while you smugly pat yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:03 AM
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Science isn't oppression. The irony of you calling me desperate to be oppressed after suggesting your own oppressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:56 AM
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When did I say that being a slut is objectively good? Actually, sluttiness isn't negative! Fun fact for the day. ~ What morals do you accept as objective? Get to your point. I'm not going to make a 100 page essay on all the morals I find objective vs subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:22 AM
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Why can't I mention economic privileges? That's the biggest inequality between men and women. Because there aren't any, but mostly because this thread isn't about economic privileges, it's about social privileges. Socially, everyone(including women) tend to take men's opinions more seriously than women's. Imagine this scenario: you come into a conversation where a man and a woman are arguing about something. It really doesn't matter what. Science, whether or not women are attracted to certain ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:20 AM
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Fun fact, you are not the arbiter of what others should or should not accept as a moral maxim unless you you are prepared to accept that others may have differing opinions on what constitutes a moral maxim! SLUTTERY IS OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE AND RAPE FOR ALL THE GIRLS AND BOYS! YAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:15 AM
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The question is incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:13 AM
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THe problem with your argument is that it denies pretty basic scientific facts. If the brain was so completely maleable, the concept of fear for eg. wouldn't exist. Fetishes wouldn't exist. Love wouldn't exist. Quite frankly a lot of things wouldn't exist and your personality wouldn't exist. Messages taught to children at the age of 5 persist until death. That doesn't mean they are not changeable, but your argument that the brain is infinitely malleable is simply scientifically wrong. You think …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:56 PM
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Fun fact, rape isn't bad! Fun fact for the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:45 PM
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So why should beta or omega guys respect you, you man-hating shitlord?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:28 PM
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Ok. Name a male privilege a 4/10 gets that isn't economic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:14 PM
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Ok. Name one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:13 PM
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Getting a ticket once isn't proof against a generally held truism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:00 AM
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But you said earlier, that all women have the same rights/privileges. Within the given context. Obviously a millionaire doesn't have the same socio-economic privileges as a poor woman. That's obvious. You also forget that women are raised in different cultures will have different social privileges as well. Parents may have high expectations of daughter in some places. So not all females have the same social privileges. PPD is concerned with western USA/Canada/UK/Europe. Eastern cultures are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:58 AM
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No one should do anything. People can choose to do or choose not to do whatever they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:56 AM
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Then you can't expect to get out of a traffic ticket... Privileges don't mean you don't have to do anything to use them...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:45 AM
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Inherent economic advantages are not the same thing as social privileges given inherently by virtue of being female.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:43 AM
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You seem to think i'm making emotion based arguments. I'm not. Women not respecting men is a statement of fact (in my opinion). It has nothing to do with my feelings. I also never said anything about women being human. You're making no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:42 AM
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Did you flirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:38 AM
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What...? I'm a straight male. Why would I care what women do with themselves if it doesn't involve me, human or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:23 AM
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You said it's a right reserved for attractive women. I'm saying all women save for the grossest of swamp monsters have the same rights/privileges, they just don't think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:20 AM
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I would agree feminism tends to prefer women take one path (work, slutting around, stronk independent woomin), but feminism absolutely suggests women should do whatever they want. Saying otherwise is a lie. Lots of young women who are dating hockey players where I'm from hubby them up at like 22 because duh. No one's shaming them...girls wanna BE them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:14 AM
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In terms of what? I don't really think girls should do anything except fuck me because I'm a straight male. If you're asking me what I think a sensible female strategy is, you'd have to give me a goal for said woman. Tbh, I don't think women are socially punished for anything, so again, it doesn't matter. She can do whatever she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:09 AM
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No, not really. Women putting restrictions/mental impedements on themselves doesn't mean only hot women get privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:07 AM
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What is promoted is the idea that women can do whatever they want with no consequence. That's the entire message+goal of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 02:52 AM
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Ok, there's lots of angles here. Ill see if I can respond to all them starting with easiest first. So why do RPM have nothing but disgust for women who realize that what society has taught them is not actually the best route to happiness and change their priorities No one said anything about respect. Women certainly do not respect men for any reason other than alphaness, so it stands to reason that women would be awarded non either. I personally am not concerned, nor do I think many other men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 02:49 AM
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If you dislike men, the movie is an apotheosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:23 PM
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I think viewing it as "ok" and not "ok" are fundamentally broken BluePill premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:21 PM
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No it doesn't. "Asshole" in this context is a specific social trope describing a specific set of behaviors and attitudes towards women and others. Lots of people cheat. Lots of people who are not otherwise bad people cheat. One of your friends has probably cheated. Or you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:00 PM
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I mean if it's not about you, that's fine. I assumed it was about you, not movies and cultural themes. There is nothing you can do about this except being a superior male specimen in the woman's eyes. If the person doens't respect you, ditch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:59 PM
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Not really. Most of them are just good looking and their personal qualities were irrelevant. Karl Urban's character is a pretty decent depiction of an adult asshole (serial cheating, lying, blaming others, no responsbility) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:57 PM
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Because they're low hanging fruit. Low hanging fruit men all get shredded by women, and white knights as a general social trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:55 PM
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Psychological abuse is not RP specific. Lots of female self-help sources encourage psychological abuse, and lots of general cultural "knowledge" boil down to sexual abuse. "Don't call him for 3 days. Don't return his texts" isn't much less abusive than making someone think you have more options than might be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:52 PM
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Ultimately, no, it gets nowhere. This place is of very little value, just as the BP is of very little value. If RP is true, then it is true, regardless of how many feels it hurts or sensabilities it offends. If BluePill people refuse to buy into various premises to engage in a discussion, then not only is conversation trivial, but a total waste of time. If someone really thinks respecting women harder is the answer to RedPill men's problem, what is there to talk about? You and your intellectual …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:50 PM
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I saw this movie, it's actually a remake of a japanese film if i'm not mistaken, which is somewhat ironic. In any event, I agree, the film was remarkably redpill. So much so, I thought most of the characters would be deeply unlikeable to the general audience, which is probably why it scored so badly on IMDB for an otherwise decent film.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:39 PM
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That he can put his penis in more than 0 women doesn't make him not a Nice Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:36 PM
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What an oddly specific and personal question to ask to a debate subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:31 PM
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You're being too imaginative. Religion was a tool of socio-economic control. It wasn't devised as a means to steal chicks from chad. Sure it had that effect, but that wasn't it's purpose. Letting your daughter run off with a chad is a pretty terrible turn of events in a world were opportunity for social advancement is next to nil, and infant mortality is like 50%... Men never controlled what women found attractive; they controlled who was an acceptable life partner, which objectively was an inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:26 PM
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Arranged marriages are less happy than free choice marriages so that is a useless argument. Actual research I've seen and the divorce rates in the USA suggest the opposite, but this isn't really important. But for the record, I went from dreaming of being with him to breaking up with him instead, so no, you don't know how women think at all. This anecdote doesn't support your argument. If would only support your argument if you were still infatuated with him until you found out he believes in my…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:17 PM
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Compatibility is important to most people's happiness. Not really. In fact there is reason to believe arranged marriages actually cause people greater happiness than having to find someone you think like enough for marriage. I've been speaking elsewhere about a guy I dated who hid the fact that he believed in ghosts and psychic abilities from me for months. Now, frankly, I think both of those things are ludicrous so if I had ended up with him (my first serious boyfriend) instead of my husband, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:56 AM
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I disagree with the premise. I don't think it has anything to do with men being different or better than you, it's just a function of trust in lifetyles. If a woman is accustomed to chewing through men, there is no reason to believe she's capable of being loyal to you for an extended period of time. Ignoring this to answer your question, it would be troubling just the same but for different reasons. I would assume she just has a fetish my type and will likely use me for a period of time and move…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:26 AM
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Your argument seems to be that people, primarily women don't like RedPill because the people using it are unattractive, and they don't actually care about the message. My argument is that you are very wrong, and many people, primarily women find the message sexist, hateful and troubling. The fact that chad can say and do the same things and not get reprimanded for it is not proof of your point because chad can rape your mother and still get anal from you that night; chad can do whatever he wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:15 AM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:47 AM
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Yes. Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:43 AM
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There is no stockpiling of wealth, or women, resulting from the strategy described. That poster's spouse ended up with one woman, her. What? Yes there was. She said when she wanted an LTR, she went on 40 dates with 40 different men in rapid succession until one of them was worth pursuing. Most men do not have access to 40 sexual partners in their entire life, and most women do not have access to 40 sexual partners they'd actually want to go on a date with at once, ever. The strategy of going on …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:38 AM
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You didn't answer the question because it poses an obvious problem with your statement. You leaned on a shitty ad-hom deflection tactic like a 12yr old. Your shitty deflection tactic itself contains at least 2 fallacies. You really got "us" on that one. Shot through the heart baby, and you're to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:21 AM
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I think their beliefs are simply contingent on not thinking overly hard about the consistency of their worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:17 AM
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Absolutely. At first I figured it's just an easy red-herring shell game, but really, I just don't think bluepills think very hard about the things they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:51 AM
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It is relevant, my argument is that it is more about who is saying it then what it is saying. It is because people imagine "neckbeards" using The Red Pill and saying what they are saying as "neckbeards". I do not see how I am using an "apex fallacy" either, you are going to have to explain that. The fact that chad can say whatever he wants doesn't mean the content of his words aren't problematic, it means people give chad infinite credit. A hot girl would preach the virtues of raping 5yr olds, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:34 PM
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The Red Pill was not started as a political group, I suggest you do some research about it, The Red Pill was never made as a "woman-hating" group or anything in that sense, this is why comparing it to The Klu Klux Klan just does not work. I suggest you do some critical thinking instead of parrotting what people on the IRC tell you. The RedPill was originally a set of truisms held in opposition to what society held was true. Whether you buy into the idea that RP was for this group, or that group …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 05:25 PM
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That is only partially correct, most advice gives the "why", but the reason "why" can still be incorrect, it is just the "why" reason is pragmatic and useful to the people reading it, most advice gives the reason why it works, it is just that reason why may not be compelling to most people and the actual advice may not be very effective for that person. A "why" from someone equally as uninformed as the reader is not any better than not giving a why at all. Giving anonymous incel #79483 a shitty …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 05:00 PM
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The primary difference I've noticed between men and women, and that is uniform throughout almost all women I've met except a few is that their feelings dictate their behavior, and they show very little ability to seperate what is true from what they feel. I have also noticed that women show very little inclination to accept personal responsibility or culpability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:39 PM
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You think there are less than 200,000 women who behave in likewise fashions? You don't get out much...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:36 PM
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As always when the sub receives a question that actually should inspire some interesting conversation, the comments section is filled with trashy BluePill comments that either miss the point entirely, or hinge on solipsism and don't know what they're talking about. #SAD. The strength of TRP, and really most of the manosphere movement (because TRP is only one part of it) is that it explains the WHY. Yes, you can get similar information in other places, though I'd disagree with bluepills that it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:28 PM
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If PUA was the men's counter culture movement you'd be complaining about that too...in fact, almost every woman in the west was. PUA was considered just as misogynistic and offensive as TRP is now. The rest of your comment is solipsistic kak that misses the point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:22 PM
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No, that site/blog/writer is a total Nice Guy cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 03:13 PM
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No. "Unchecked hypergamy" would be trying to find the best possible man when it hurts someone else for you to do so, aka when married, and particularly when married to a spouse who is going through a rough time. Maybe "unchecked hypergamy" can also be when the strategy hurts the woman, because she's shooting above her league with no success. Not really, I mean yes, but that's overly pedantic. It's just as "unchecked" to support a culture of the vast majority of women pooling around a small minor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 03:06 PM
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WhhoooOOOOOOOooosshhh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 04:33 AM
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And yet all my best friends in life I didn't immediately like much, and actually disliked some of them... Whilst I don't endorse spending time with people you don't like, or offer no value in return, 1 date is not enough to evaluate the entirely of a human being. Your post reeks of A) tinder culture, and B) unchecked hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:41 AM
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No, I'd say Emma Watson is hotter than ScarJo, but ScarJo is sexier than EW.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:36 AM
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Men like hotness. I personally don't think age has anything to do with it, versus whether or not you're rich enough to keep yourself well looked after, and you exercise. Kate Beckinsale is hotter than 90% of all women under 30 and she's 44. Her 18yr old daughter is actually less attractive than she is and KB herself is hotter now that she used to be.... Young teen women have more raw potential to be hot because they have age on their side, but most humans in general aren't at their top form by 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 02:34 AM
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People don't usually expend effort on things they don't value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:13 AM
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There is really no reason to not believe this is the case. There was a "post your picture" thread recently, most of the people were attractive. Of course the ugly people aren't going to post, but nevertheless, most of the frequenters are attractive because I know most of them. There was also a "what's your N count thread", maybe a year ago. Most people's N count is either above the national average, or it's low because the woman is conservative. Add that the people's general demeanor and attitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 04:12 AM
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The fact that you ask this question is why people hate incels. Dont bring attention to incels for nothing. Its one thing if they're relevant to the topic (I actually have come to believe PPD is mostly a collection of high SMV winners talking to high SMV winners and none of their opinions are of particular relevance to how the world actually works) but otherwise, no one cares. Stop bringing attention to incels, it's not going to get anyone anywhere. That being said, I do think the people saying "…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 09:00 PM
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Let me get this straight... A cute girl you see everyday gave you her snapchat, sent you unsolicited nudes, you decided "meh, she probably doesn't want a timely response", and you're complaining that you're an incel because you're short...? You sound like incel because retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 05:59 PM
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wut
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/17 03:27 AM
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That is pretty fucking stupid and in no way factually accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:53 AM
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You are an insane person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:51 AM
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Again, you're disgusting and you should never be allowed to have sex. You have a fucking scenario of what a rape would be like in your mind. You're disgusting. Lol, do you think people don't know how rape works? Are you 6 years old? We can start by teaching you that's it's wrong to feel entitled to a woman's body and to not care about her right to bodily autonomy. If I'm raping a woman, it's because I DON'T CARE ABOUT HER BODILY AUTONOMY. Rape is not about entitlement, it's about power and reven…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 11:20 PM
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Teaching rapists not to rape TOTALLY works. How else do you explain that some places have more rapes than others? You can change the culture (ie. the attitude of men towards women and their understanding of what's wrong and what's punishable) and many of the would-be rapists suddenly won't be rapists. Cultural differences between men and women, the rule of law, fundamentalist religious oppression... etc. A rapist by definition doesn't care about your consent, or they wouldn't be raping you, sill…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:41 AM
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Yes there is. BluePill is most often supportive of socially liberal belief structures like feminism and social justice both of which are basically social privilege advocacy groups because women don't like the reality of life and must be protected from personal responsibility and hinges on a premise that women have little or no agency. Ie. like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:12 AM
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Don't let the bible hit you on the way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:02 AM
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No, I said that being choosy and knowing when to say no is self-respect. Then you've moved the premise of your argument beyond your own direct judgement and have completely lost the plot... If someone's own ability to know when to say yes or no is now the definition of self respect, then you have absolutely no basis upon which to judge when and where they choose to do this. So really, your argument isn't a real thing, and for the third time, all you're telling us is that you like chads. I person…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 02:54 AM
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Are you saying that physical attractiveness is everything if you're a woman, and personality means absolutely jack shit? That's a hard question to answer because if I say yes, i'll be being disengenuous and if I say no, it'll make you and other BPs who may be reading and agree with you think they are more correct than they actually are. 98% yes, 2% no. Of course if you are absolutely miserable to deal with, a woman may not be as successful at maintaining a relationship which is what women genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 02:03 AM
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Do you have trouble understanding English? Like wtf. Si senorita! I refuse to participate any further in this ridiculous conversation if you don't show an OUNCE of BASIC effing logic and understanding. Are you reading my mind? lol I SAID that is LOGICALLY untrue, because there exists women who enjoy having sex with multiple partners. Do you deny that? Yes. You can't, because it is empirically true Except it's not because chad chasing isn't productive or rewarding for women. Women generally value…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 01:49 AM
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Says you. If they're equally attractive, it doesn't matter what their personalities are, they still have the same amount of privilege at their fingertips. This doesn't support your premise. Your premise is that being a confident slut is attractive BECAUSE she is confident. But this scenario only demonstrates that being ENTHUSIASTIC about sex is a positive quality, which is not the same thing as being CONFIDENT. In honour of fairness and good-faith, I'll grant you that a "confident" woman (to use…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 09:17 PM
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Have you considered that maybe Chad is less of a jerk? Seriously? You're going to lead with this? This is on the level of particularly stupid feminists who think they can teach rapists about consent and make rape go away. You've been around the sub for a while. Rise to a higher standard of discourse... Look, sure, there are guys who fit the "chad" bill who aren't total assholes just because. I've known one or two. But don't try to convince me or anyone sensible that Derk the Jerk who strung your…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 09:01 PM
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I was thinking more about the economic impact of a welfare policy. You know, how it will effect the collective society. But you just looked at it from an individual point of view. Which really highlights the difference between us, you don't really care what's best for society, you just want what you think is best for you. Which is fine. Most people think like that, especially when in positions of desperation. Like the poor person in my analogy, or like you and other TRPers in the Sexual Market P…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 08:44 PM
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Nah, I've seen some vids on Pornhub. Looks aces for all parties involved. Pornhub wouldn't lie to me. Anal is just a good demonstation of acts of depravity and supplication women have for Chads and the uninterest they tend to have for betas/the men they tend to settle for later. It's not about the anal itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:35 PM
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"Chad" isn't Chad because of his N count. "Chad" is a particular set of characteristics and relationship to women and the world around him. You don't have to fuck stacy's all day to be a Chad or chadlike. It doesn't take a Chad to have self-respect You said N count didn't matter, now you're attributing the quality of "self respect" to a low N count. I also find it weird that bluepills are typically against RedPill'esque social heirarchy belief systems, yet they'll claim one individual rejecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:30 PM
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That's like saying cars are an attractive product because they're made out of steel. No, cars are an attractive product because they transport people in minimal time. Sluts aren't attractive because they're confident because they're sluts... Sluts are attractive because to be a mega slut, you have to be physically good looking most of the time. This is mind-numbingly obvious and the fact that 4 people upvoted you for that is shameful to a subreddit about intelligent debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:23 PM
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I've never met a slut specifically proud of being a slut. I've met women who are sluts who view sex as something that shouldn't be judged, which is an obvious defence mechanism to not have to face that most people do judge being a slut as a negative quality. I've also never met a desperate slut. I've met women are not particularly attractive who were not challenging to get into bed, but they weren't desperate about it. Both of these scenarios seem like extremely small groups of niche extremes Bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:22 PM
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And I'm sure he got the anal every night, just like Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 08:01 AM
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The first post isn't TRP. It's just reframing shitty bluepill advice, half of it wrong, and the other half fairly obvious to anyone in the community. The second post is TRP... There's this weird believe that TRP is or is supposed to be a self help forum. It's not. It's basically a hate cult, and that's fine. It took the fairly vague truisms of TRP and said "as men, there are conclusions to be drawn here. Given what we know about women, they are shit. So, what do we do about it? How do we modify …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:53 AM
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And I've never met a chad with a heart of gold... Your value system is not a man's value system and vice versa. The fact that you don't perceive them as such isn't really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:43 AM
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So? You seem to think shamelessness is a virtue men's judgement cares about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:41 AM
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This is probably amongst the most AWALT'ey, BluePill trash posts this sub has had in a while... You're saying you only respect men who have the SMV power to be a sexual selector (chad) because of course a man who doesn't have the power of choice, doesn't have the luxury of being particularly picky...Which you find unattractive, yet would find him unattractive anyway...because he doesn't have a power of choice (duh) So you've really told us nothing except that you like Chads and in no way connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:35 AM
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But a wealthy person is in a far better position to recognize the nuance of the issue. No, if anything, the wealthy man is in the worst position because he it's almost impossible for him to understand what it means to be poor. It is however, very easy for the poor man to understand what it means to not have concerns about money. So similarly... I think TRPers and incels only support a 1:1 model somewhat because it benefits them. Because that means they don't have to feel jealous about Chad. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:09 AM
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Why would a person who takes issue with the unfair distribution of sexual partners take issue with a 1:1 model? People, especially TRP men who are not Chad's would be far more willing to adopt a model that makes most people romantically destitute across the board than the current model that gives women and Chad's unrestrained power. This is interesting to me because even in your rationalization of your stance, being that these men are just mouthing off because they're bitter and wouldn't actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:33 PM
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I would say they are socially conservative libertarians, in favour of limited government, and a return to patriarchy based gender roles. They want to return to enlightenment era thinking that male sexuality can and should be expressed but women's sexuality should not be. That's reactionary, not conservative. This is not true. They believe human sexuality without socio-economic checks and balances is unrewarding for an unacceptable amount of people. They don't like that chad has harems of 19yr ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 06:15 AM
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The RedPill subreddit is strongly libertarian/neo-con. Almost all the major players in the RP "movement" are neo-con. Whilst I will agree that it's easy to "play a neo-con on Reddit" than it is to be one in real life as it often requires advocating against your own best interest, I don't know how you came to this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:59 PM
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I am RedPill. I typically vote Liberal (Canada) because it aligns with my economic best interest. I was politically liberal for most of my life although now that I'm no longer a spry young kiddo, my political leanings are swaying more towards those like Ben Shapiro and far away from leftism, which liberals are becoming synonymous with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:57 PM
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Male niceness should be more correctly referred to as male character, which I do not believe is related purely to being a nice guy doormat. Even many alphas I've known had better character than most women. Men have better character in my opinion, simply by virtue of having harder lives. Masculinity is struggle. Femininity is rewarded passivity. Between the two, struggle is more likely to produce a respectable character. Even nice guy doormat betas have more sensible and well-rounded opinions on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:52 PM
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You seem to be suggesting the are more solutions than you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 08:30 PM
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Strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine, Darth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:54 PM
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Yes, I've known dozens of people who've gotten friendzoned. It's extremely common. Anyone who says it doesn't exist is a dumb dumb imo. Told? I mean...who doesn't know? Most people know they're friendzoned when they're friendzoned. The issue is men do not know how to avoid being friendzoned because beta men are taught blank slatism so they figure if they're just very agreeable, obviously Jenny will see that he'd make a better boyfriend than Derk the Jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:19 PM
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I don't think BP's are in denial about how many women are having casual sex, I think they are in denial about how few men in general are having sex... A common argument against RedPill by BluePillers is that sex is extremely easy to attain as long as you're not misogynist. If you respect women hard enough, and leave your house, everyone accomplishes a satisfying sex life. They use this argument to deny that existence of alpha/beta/omega in favour of a belief that sex is evenly, or at least more …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:15 PM
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He means black people are unique in that they're black and white people aren't black, therefore why aren't we giving black people special rights. Why doesn't ever group have special rights other groups don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 09:01 PM
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One reason that I can think of is that they simply don't notice the ways in which patriarchal attitudes are oppressive to women because they don't care about women unless they are hot instagram models that they can stalk from their safety of their figurative basement. I'm going to stop you right there...You're starting off your post by asserting something almost no RedPill is going to agree is a real premise to begin with, and then asking us questions about how we feel about arguments made from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:58 PM
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#DatFemalePrivilege
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:57 PM
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I rarely see "be nice" as the only advice given, as it's usually partnered with several other things you should be, but maybe the people I know are just better at giving advice. Yes...which is why it's nebulous advice that doesn't actually work. The thing is though is that it is a thing. In fact, you admit yourself that there is a subset of men that act this way. This is who we make fun of. No it's not. This is a lie. "Nice Guy" is a catch-all term for basically anyone experessing any frustratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:56 PM
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You're basically saying you wish you could be a generally disagreeable person but your life restricts you from being as mean-spirited as you'd ideally prefer. That's pretty friggin creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 09:39 PM
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What a creepy answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:38 PM
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The size of this reply meant I did not have the time to sit down and answer this until now so I vaguely forget what arguments were being made so I'll just do my best. What's the advice? To be nice? Because that's barely advice. Niceness is the minimum requirement in any sort of relationship. I agree. Nevertheless, this is the classic advice men are given in regards to dating; "just be yourself! I like nice guys! I wish I could find a guy like you!" These are cultural tropes/farces at this point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:30 PM
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Which is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 01:49 PM
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I don't agree. Fuck boy is totally socially acceptable, or at least as acceptable as "slut". Lots of people use the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 09:59 PM
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A misdguided insult is still an insult. Its just a bad one. Women use the term for other women. Actually being a fuck boy is pretty great for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 07:23 PM
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The issue is not that there is information missing. I understand what you're saying; what you're saying is just wrong, and you aren't interested in correcting it. To put it simply, you're basically telling me 5+6=12 because you've decided to change the value of 5 to be something that's not 5. You said "nice guys are jerks who get mad at women when they get rejected". I said "why wouldn't a man be upset about being rejected?" You said "Because it means they're not actually nice" I said "why would…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:12 AM
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I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around it. I can wrap my head around it just fine. You're just wrong. I just don't think there's anything that can be done about it. I've been very consistent and clear with what the term means You have been consistent. I already gave you that. But, consistently only goes so far. and you've made countless assumptions about how I actually think I don't think I have. This conversation is almost a month long and I've asked you to clarify your position at least 5-1…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:18 PM
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I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around it. I can wrap my head around it just find. You're just wrong. I just don't think there's anything that can be done about it. I've been very consistent and clear with what the term means You have been consistent. I already gave you that. But, consistently only goes so far. and you've made countless assumptions about how I actually think I don't think I have. This conversation is almost a month long and I've asked you to clarify your position at least 5-1…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 06:17 PM
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The problem with your reply seems to be that you don't actually understand the theory. The suggestion is there comes a point in a woman's life when she value (which for a woman is basically only her looks) cannot match her sexual ideals (men who can do better), so she's forced to find a man lower SMV than she is used to. None of this is about college or young adults. I personally don't believe in the wall but that's the theory in a nutshell. PS. Your bullet points are weirdly specific, and not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:21 PM
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Literally everyone does this. The expressed views on the internal states of men of all SMV levels by women on this subreddit are equally wrong and/or presumptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 04:03 PM
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I find that a highly odd and intellectually incoherent usage of that term, and I would maintain my objections to your beliefs still stand, but in any case, at least you're consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 03:02 PM
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I mean, I wasn't sure that the problem you stated needed to be directly addressed, but I'll see if I can further illustrate. Odd. It's a pretty critical logical flaw. There are men who get frustrated when they're not having luck with women (normal), and there are men that get frustrated when their acts of niceness aren't rewarded with women ("niceguys"). This seems like an arbitrary distinction considering there are lots of people who are generally unpleasant, or patently cruel to those around t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 02:34 AM
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There do exist men who attempt to pick up women while actively thinking that all women are worthless. They put on an act of chivalry and at the slightest hint of disinterest will lash out. I mean to say you've never seen this happen would be surprising I've seen it happen, but you haven't addresses the problem I've highlighted with your belief system. You've completely side stepped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 07:38 PM
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Not particularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:04 AM
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So, you're assuming my behavior? Is that not assuming my actions? This seems very similar. Again, your behavior is irrelevant. If you don't behave inline with your beliefs, it makes no difference to my argument. A man can attempt courtship and resent women, sure, but that seems backwards. What's false is when a guy pretends he's nice while calling all women whores for arbitrary reasons What does it mean to pretend being nice? That's not a thing. You're nice for a period of time, and not nice for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:43 AM
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The difference is you have no idea what I do vs what I say. You can't tell me I'm lying when you have no idea whether or not I "beat dogs," so that is totally irrelevant. Unless of course you have proof of me not doing what I say? Your actual actions aren't relevant. I'm combating the argument you are presenting with the assumption you actually believe it and align your behavior to accommodate for this belief. If you do not, then you're less intellectually honest than I originally assumed and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:47 AM
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Christ pal you don't have the authority to tell me what is a lie and what isn't, regarding what happens in my own life. What reason do you have to believe that I am lying? If I said "I love dogs, they're wonderful animals that deserve respect" but I beat every dog I see, it doesn't take knowing what my birthday is, or my family history to know my beliefs are incongruent and my statement is a lie, whether I know it myself or not. This is what you're doing. Your suggested beliefs are incongruent w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 06:04 AM
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Interesting opinion for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:59 PM
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Lol, ok, you win. That is some pretty lame ass behavior. Im unsure how he thought he'd get away with that....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 06:41 PM
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How and why would he do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 09:25 PM
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Quote or GTFO. Your entire first premise is that men lie uss totally photoshopped/staged pictures that look a nothing like them and showt up to dates and your female friends who then reject them you dolt. That's a huge lie. You don't lie that big... I did "Don't do that" isn't a solution. You just said by your own logic they got rejected. Put your money where your mouth is and provide a better. For a guy who's such a know-it-all, everytime I talk to you, you provide absolutely nothing in terms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 05:07 PM
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...what in the hell are you talking about? Where is this coming from? You're making so many leaps in logic I can't keep up. Ok, you're clearly not keeping up. Let's bring this back to basics. Do you agree that there is a difference between knowing 1+1=2 because someone told you it was correct, and it lines up pragmatically with 2+2=4, or 8+8=16 is fundamentally different than comprehending what the value of 1 is and furthermore comprehending that if the value of 1 is doubled, the result is a val…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:57 AM
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Never said it was the same. Stop with arguing about shit I never said. Yes, you did. Lying is productive to go out on an awkward date with a woman who can't wait to get away from you. Great strategy. Provide a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:53 AM
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You sound like a A grade friend...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:52 AM
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You can laugh if you want to, but your post and thought-process in general drips of the same intellectual dishonesty most leftists ideals and virtue signals suffer from, being that you seem to feel that a virtue signal is in itself worthy of being held up as something morally good, and basic instead of examining what it actually is you're saying in a real and practical sense. The same way people claim to support muslims and stand against anti-islamic sentiments without actually having any idea w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:29 PM
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This is like using the existence of snow to disprove climate change... Lying that you're 6'0 because you're aware women actively descriminate against men below 6 foot when you're actually 5'10 isn't the same thing as photoshopping your pictures to the N'th degree so it doesn't even look like you. Furthermore, if you're were selected by a woman who had literally 1000 options and picked you because presumably your personality was at least a little bit better than the other 999 guys, and then rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:16 PM
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Except that no...it's not. If it was that simple, no one would suffer from these problems. Knowing the answer isn't the same as knowing how to get to it. Don't be dense for the sake of upholding female imperatives. It's really not required.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:08 PM
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Instagram is almost as shallow as Tinder. That doesn't really help you unless you're also lit, and female.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:05 PM
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I don't know what thino is. You sound like you may be drunk, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 11:00 PM
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Spouting nebulous talking points isn't the same as giving actual advice. What are you even saying. Writing an attractive profile is a heavily nuanced objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:12 PM
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...Why is that happy face worthy? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:09 PM
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Wut
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:08 PM
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They realized how advantaged women were in their numbers and figured they could monetize the app against men. They started charging for matching algorithm improvements that used to be default, and lowered daily swipes from unlimited to 40 or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:04 PM
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A snapchat function that Tinder had where you could post what you were doing and your matches could view your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:03 PM
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How would not lying be good on Tinder? If there was any place int he universe you were going to lie and get away with it, Tinder would be it. PS. Your photos also don't matter at all so long as you're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 09:02 PM
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For women - it overvalues us. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:59 PM
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It provides a good estimation of whether you are above or below the so called "looks barrier". That being said, in an interview with the guy who invented OKC's matching algorithm, he said he could tell what sexual league someone was in by looking at the people the system suggested to a given user.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:57 PM
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1) Guys who are fun to be around, generally well-liked, and polite to his friends and strangers, are guys who are being nice. Those are nice people.this is where most people generally fit. Agreed. 2) "Betas" who don't have a lot going for them, whether they be unattractive or boring or antisocial or some combination of the three, but otherwise well-intentioned guys, may be given a sympathy comment of "well, he's a nice boy." These are the guys who will understandably be frustrated, since "nice" …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:52 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 08:43 PM
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Do you have anything more constructive to add the that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 07:42 AM
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Notice your language btw. As if being self aware is some serious superiority. If you care about character it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:59 PM
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The Blue Pill is a satire sub, No it's not. It's a diametrically opposite hate cult to RedPill's hate cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:57 PM
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Modern socio-sexual feminist and left-leaning cultural mores don't exist...? That's a plot twist I wasn't expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:57 PM
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Nice Guy's aren't even when people call Nice Guys anymore. Everyone buy's into the feminist koolaid that Nice Guys are men who pretend to be nice to get laid and then get angry when she fucks someone else instead when a Nice Guy has nothing to do with any of that, and is literally just an AFC beta male who doesn't understand how women work and is usually (and understandably) frustrated... If we're using the correct definition of Nice Guy which I just laid out, I'd say there is no female equivole…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 10:53 PM
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What is the point of this question? What do you think the BluePills here (who aren't even really Blue Pill) are going to tell you other than "be hotter than you currently are" and "respect women harder"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:26 AM
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There is no practical difference in most cases. Looks beget a lifestyle. A lifestyle begets a look... This is male 1. Let's pretend he's significantly more masculine than the average man. He's a Canadian lumberjack, he spends his off time fixing cars, and grabbing a brew with the boys down at the pub; he's averagely social. He hasn't cried since 1998 when his mom died. Dispite his chubbiness, he carries himself with a quiet confidence one would expect from someone who works a construction job ==…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:22 AM
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From women... Though, with the increasing social culture of sex-positivity fascism I've noticed more women admit they really just want an asshole. But certainly growing up as a millenial, the only thing I ever heard was "be yourself" and "omg, why can't I find a nice guy!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/17 03:02 AM
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Well that is likely going to come down to personal experience as I've never in 28yrs of life have witness this to be the case (women without question maye hypergamously, and men without question value looks as a primary attractor) but do you have any proof or at least an argument for this? I've read a lot of studies on human attraction and this is scientifically wrong. At least by our current understanding of human mating which I'd actually argue is far behind less scientific methods like shared…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:50 PM
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Naturally you'd gravitate towards that rebuttal. I knew you were going to say that before I even pressed send. Its easy and removes the possibility that my statement is true, or at least truer than not as well as relieves you of having to argue why it's wrong. I don't even necessarily blame you for it. Itd be more valid if I was some basement dwelling shut in though which I am not. I live a fairly regular life, my friends are of varying SMP levels, and I'm well liked. I've known lots of Chad's, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 09:46 PM
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Yes in bad cases of autism, or people who were left behind socially like mega nerds who care nothing for people and would rather hang in their room and read SpiderMan comics or something. But most people, even incels develop adequate enough social skills to communicate effectively with others. The difference with whether those skills are consistently rewarded or consistently shamed is the person's SMV. Ie. A Chad with shitty social skills will not be thought of as having bad social skills, but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:40 PM
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Are you arguing that looks don't matter outside casual sex market?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:34 PM
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Your first sentence makes no sense and your second sentence reads as a bad attempt at hurting my feelings over the internet or something (lol). Correct your reply and I'll respond, otherwise, I have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 07:03 AM
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I wouldn't want to delete it...It's true, I support it, and I think championing therapy to people like incels is highly destructive. I like how you ignored every other challenge I've put forth though. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 06:59 AM
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I think it's an interesting correlation, but I still maintain nothing matters except SMV, and by SMV, I mean looks, and at least average social skills. Social access may have mattered before everyone lived on the internet, but this argument which I'm seeing rather often of "low social access + high inhibition = low N count/incelism" is IMO, ignorant of the modern dating landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:11 AM
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I don't, but I'm going to keep that classified.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:08 AM
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No it's not. To fully explore the topic of masculinity and it's relation to sexuality, you have to granulate masculinity into two seperate notions. ie. Actual masculinity as per gender roles, and masculine attraction markers that are telegraphed to potential sexual partners. An overweight man with no job, and no ambition who's the most masculine man alive as per gender roles in every other way. A chad with a chisselled jaw line who walks around with football in hand, but can't face social disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:06 AM
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That would require an essay answer, but in a serious nutshell BluePills can laugh at the "male honour" thing, and I agree it's somewhat lollerific myself, but In my experience, men are generally much better, more well rounded people. Even men who are not good people seem to be at least more self-aware individuals than women, who more often than not tend to just be selfish, solipsistic value sponges, likely because women's lives are devoid of struggle in any form outside unavoidable human experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:00 AM
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I'd love to see such a video. I'm not giving you a hard time because it's a fun thing to do on a sunday morning. I'm giving you a hard time because you're making really shitty, objectively wrong arguments and acting indignant when I challenge you. You're on a debate sub filled with at least a couple really smart people and they aren't going to accept your opinion just because you said it. If you have video proof of a man getting a threesome with 2 women objectively several deviations outside his…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 11:50 PM
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No, you're being dishonest. Claiming an argument is not true absolutely because there exists an exception is not the same as claiming a group of people are dumb to not realize their world view is wrong enough to hold the belief that they're ignorant of female attraction, otherwise you wouldn't have made a show of it. Why are you even here if you can't keep the context of your statements straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 11:45 PM
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You're on a debate subreddit. You don't get to say things, especially when you're wrong, offer no defense for your argument and then pretend you have the intellectual high ground when you run away. Can you defend your opinion, or not? I care nothing for your attempts virtue shame socially disenfranchised groups over the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:43 PM
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You seem to think you're being profound when you're in fact, being annoyingly trite. When I demonstrate that for all intents and purposes, you are wrong, you say "well duh, looks are extremely important! pffft", but then when I ask you what you're actually saying, all you have to defend yourself is "looks aren't all that matter". So what are you saying, because right now, you're not saying anything of value...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:41 PM
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Then what value is your argument as you're now not challenging the original argument, you're just making a secondary, nebulous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:03 PM
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The Rock is the Rock because he looks like the Rock. It's determinist. You'd be insane to think otherwise. A manlet is not going to be respected as the Rock is when he's 1/3rd the size even if the Rock was a lil'bitch in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 10:02 PM
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What difference does it make if they've already friend-zoned him? Furthermore, what difference does it make if he wasn't of adequate SMV to inspire IOI's in the first place? Like I say, this is a weird, gross bluepill'y talking point that makes no sense unless you know both parties quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 09:23 PM
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How? Because he doesn't knowingly flirt with his female friends? That's a very slippery position to argue. That's like me claiming you're adopted, and your mom is just too scared to tell you. You can't possibly have more knowledge of his relationship with a person you don't know than he does, especially when it's not a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 08:06 PM
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Yes... it does. Your "point" is just a social reinforcement of IIHotelYorba's argument that looks aren't everything and women are attracted to behavioral attraction triggers. I argued this is a misrepresentation of reality, and the scientific fact that women don't fancy simple pictures as men do doesn't discredit the fact/TRP's argument that lookism is still reality, that "masculinity" for women is still mostly just synonymous with masculine ratios in a man's physical appearance and that looks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:59 PM
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Yes there is: look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:52 PM
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Nobody loses weight for the sake of losing weight. You've clearly never met a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:51 PM
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You probably don't know how to be friends with girls. What a gross blue-pill'ism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:50 PM
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Because you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:49 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6kvlls/women_arent_as_shallow_in_real_life_like_they_are/djs13wv/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:46 PM
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This isn't really true, or at least, is a misrepresentation of reality. Yes, It's true that women shown a still image of a man won't be AS turned on by the simple imagery vs if you show a man a VS model. HOWEVER... Women still prefer stereotypically attractive men in real life. Just because The Rock acts like a sissy bitch doesn't mean he's ever going to lose a girl to a pudgy 5'6 guy with solid body language and talks a sick game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:45 PM
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No they don't... What an odd claim... Incelism is a combination of several issues, and social observations. First, looks are the only thing that matter, second, looks and masculinity are basically synonymous except for special cases, and third, they lack the ability or belief that their SMP rank is improvable at least by any significant margin. For a subreddit that talks about incels incessantly, no one seems to actually have any idea how they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:42 PM
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This is a pretty solid post. I never really thought about it like that, but... definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:38 PM
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When I first got here, I was RedPill. Extremely RedPill. Giving women rights was the single worst failure in all of human history, and a solid argument can be made that women do not actually qualify as people level RedPill. Then I went purple after meeting a woman who convinced me women aren't that terrible. Now I'm RedPill again, after being convinced that women are still pretty terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:32 PM
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I actually don't think men are the gatekeepers of anything. Whatever partner has the more influence is the gatekeeper. In women's case, sure, Chad might be her gatekeeper to an LTR as he likely won't LTR her ever because he fucks women who offer more for breakfast. To most people, women are the gatekeepers of everything because men generally thirstier for sex, AND want relationships more often because the average man's sexual success is pretty poor and having something is better than nothing, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:25 PM
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My issue is two-fold: (1), I believe your opinion is demonstrably false considering the modern state of western dating [ie. Tinder], but also (2) that the level of granularity that would be required in almost all other topics relevant to TRP to maintain the belief that average women's power in the SMP is only meagerly better than men's would seem to me to render most other discussion void. ie. how can you possibly attempt to quantify whether or not women are hypergamous if you think women don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 07:18 PM
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Women would find a particular quality of only some men and use that instead. Ie. men with blonde hair are superior to all other men, therefore women who can attract blonde men are themselves superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 08:03 PM
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I've pointed out the contradiction already. You countered an argument no one made, and then completely switched your narrative. http://i.imgur.com/NvBDxXD.png
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 07:57 PM
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The only people making it not socially acceptable are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 04:57 AM
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Sharing is caring bb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 02:12 AM
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I think you think I'm someone I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:27 PM
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You have still blatantly contradicted yourself, but at this point, I don't think this conversation is constructive anymore. You either don't want to, or can't see how, and I don't really feel like repeating myself over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 08:18 PM

...Cool You literally just demonstrated what I called you a faggot for, and then thought covering it up with really obvious A&A would make you look better. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 04:36 AM
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I'm going to be honest; I don't believe a word of this, but you're you and I'm not, so there's nothing really I can say here... Mostly what you've written sounds more like issues with apex SMP and aren't in any way realistic, or relevant. Most people do not have the SMV capital to reject attractive suitors due to a lack of self awareness, which is almost a universally lacking human trait. Pretending for a minute that you're being honest and you do in fact behave in accordance with what you've wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:17 AM

Not really. The biggest mistake PUA and RP 'players' make is to turn into assholes without charm. They often mistake 'confidence' to mean unilateral douche behavior. Two problems with this. First, being an asshole works well enough that there is no rational incentive to develop charm. Second, I disagree with your premise; assholes are perceived as charming because they're attractive, not that they become attractive because they've learned to be charming. No one cares about charm, if you're the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 03:10 AM
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My point is, you're talking about self-awareness as if if an attractive person was not self-aware, you'd find them any less attractive. Do you enjoy the company of physically appealing specimens who display frequent cognitive dissonance? The chances that any given woman of quality isn't a walking ball of cognitive dissonance and/or lack of self-awareness is extremely minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:05 PM
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I believe possible an episode of the docuseries "Turned On" on Netflix.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 10:03 PM
2

This all sounds more like fist-shaking "damn you men not redpilling the way I want you to redpill!" How is RedPill currently not helping when it could otherwise help men in a pragmatic way...?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:43 PM
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lack of self awareness is unattractive. No one gives a shit about self awareness. The most attractive people tend to be the least self aware or actualized as a fact.... I really do think women just ascribe the attribute "unattractive" more as virtue-signalish shaming tactic than anything actually logical. I think unattractive is becoming the new "creepy".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:39 PM
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I never said an average man got better options, Nor did I suggest you did. I pretty clearly wrote that you claimed women's options aren't much different than men's. I said an average woman shouldn't be flooded that much in attention and options. That is all. ... Doesn't justify anything, even if I believe 5/10 women have it better than 6/10 men, they don't have that much options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:12 PM
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I watched a documentary recently partly about Tinder that (vaguely inferred) dating is becoming progressively harder because the decision makers, alpha men and most women) have too many options. This leads to men having no need to settle down and women who constantly either chase what they can't have, trade up constantly or demand too much men (ie. Beta men) that they simply can't meet. Its also no surprise that numerous studies have determined women have grown progressively less and less happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 05:05 PM
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Maybe in la-la land. In real life it's a very easy way to get yourself into a bad position at work by expressing views you know will be received very badly and will damage your professional reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:11 AM
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Fair enough. I understand what you mean now. I wouldn't really call that vulnerability though. It's more like diplomatic sensibilities, ie. I do not talk about my strongly anti-feminist views with my feminist single mother co-worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 06:27 PM
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You need to figure out how to become your own Chad. Not some other Chad. The specifically fucked up like the way you're fucked up Chad. Make any sense? Not really. You seem to be proposing some kind of holistic, thoughtfulness conception of "chad" (be your own best chad!) when that's not what "chad" is. Chad is a very specific male archetype that (TRP believes) women have by-and-large selected as the premier male sexual goal. All my friends are Chads. I cannot be friends with someone below me, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 06:25 PM
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You started this conversation by suggesting that an average woman doesn't have much better options than an average man and which each consecutive reply, you've disagreed more and more strongly with your original premise until you're basically arguing my argument for me: "the average woman has significantly more power in the SMP than the average man" Furthermore, the pillsphere is totally not "ok" with that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 05:59 PM
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Then you've totally contradicted yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:22 PM
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Separating them is pointless. They are a product of mentality. Chad acts and looks like Chad. Not, Chad looks and/or acts like Chad. If he fits the archetype of Chad, then he's Chad. I don't know what you're saying. You figured out literally nothing about women before the manosphere? Doubtful. Where would you get information about women other than from women who know nothing about women, or PUA/TRPs who were relegated to back alley forums when I was in highschool? Once you realize as per TRP/PUA…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:21 PM
1

This all sounds very woo-woo, airy fairy to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 04:18 PM
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I would imagine unless she's aan activisty liberal, it's a major turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:00 PM
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how can men expect women in the same breath to wait for a guy when ultimately, he won't be satisfied with settling down with a nice girl? This is a presumption you're adding. Men love telling women to not have casual sex and save themselves and that alpha men like to settle with them, but what you just said counteracts this. I don't see how.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:11 AM
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General advice includes health and fitness. It includes learning to read people through experience. No it doesn't. General advice includes respecting women harder than current respect level and being yourself till the cows come home. Being fit is a boon, but lots of people are not The Rock and still getting laid, so there must be more to it to anyone who sits down and thinks about it. What TRP adds, is a selective sampling of the worst side of human nature in order to win people to alt-right pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:32 AM
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Vulnerable and fun are two concepts very far apart from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 02:25 AM
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Saying most men don't need TRP is like saying most students don't need a private tutor because they scored a 53% left to their own devices... Most men having tolerable enough private lives that they don't specifically hunt out TRP'esque information doesn't mean they don't need it. Those are two different concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 10:55 PM
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You literally contradicted yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:16 PM
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One's a fat omega. The other's masculine but overweight. Many women would deal with the overweight for his masculinity and adventure (the danger associated with his gangster persona)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:14 PM
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If you believe anyone who disagrees with you is "intellectually dishonest", how do you expect to get anything out of a debate? What's the point? I don't; there are particular topics where I trust my knowledge and experience over others, or else I wouldn't be of those beliefs. I rank women's ability to honestly assess what they're attracted to on the same level that I trust "be yourself" is good dating advice. I think if women had any idea what they liked, men wouldn't require TRP as evidenced by…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:10 PM
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Grateful..? Lol, does your vagina excrete chocolate milk? I'd be "grateful" if I got to fuck a chick who also provides a tasty treat when I'm eating her out. Or if you looked like Nina Agdal...Otherwise, grateful is not an emotional I think men associate with sex. Rewarding perhaps, but you're not that special for "grateful".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:05 PM
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I don't understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:02 PM
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Women never lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:00 PM
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Why is it so impossible to believe? What makes you think you know with such surety what every woman finds attractive? If what women said they were attracted to had any relevance to what women are actually sexually motivated by, TRP would have never existed. (though none of them are really that attractive) and I'm not lying. But you probably don't believe me, so... I actually have no issues believing some women aren't going to like any of them based purely on a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:52 AM
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Living bold is living right bb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 12:24 AM
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She was all like "Oh, DB605...you're so cool and doesn't afraid of anything", and then we had sex and stuff, and then she had a smoke, I cracked a beer, and we had an enlightening conversation about the conflict in the middle east. You should call her more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 11:04 PM
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That's not what your mom said last night. 0o0o0o0o.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 08:18 PM
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Maybe he doesn't appeal to you. I think you're being intellectually dishonest to say he wouldn't be successful with women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:52 PM
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The number doesn't matter. What matters is the products. There could be 70:30 in favour of women, they're still going to by hypergamous, and only date above their value. They just have even more men to choose from. The SMP is a buyers market for women. Men have to compete to sell themselves, and women are very fickle customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:36 PM
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How predictably low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:33 PM
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There is no possible way you'd want to fuck 4 less than 1, 2, 5 and 6. That can't be honest. Unless you have a specific like...anti-fetish for muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:32 PM
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True, but that's also a media push. He's not the kind of man who they find in boybands and shit. In any case, I think there is a type of man who women don't necessarily walk around thinking about but once they try, they'd never go back. I think if a woman met him, she'd grow strongly attracted after a time, and after fucking him, I don't think she'd want to go back to averagely built men. Imagine the sex a dude like that to give the woman standing next to him? What woman would ever want anyone e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:30 PM
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He looks like an action figure. He's gigantic, and he looks like he could beat the Rock in a fight. Lots of women would want him. Lots
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 07:24 PM
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Women don't care about your face when you have dimensions like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:20 AM
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I'm taking it on faith that when women claim they don't like super bodybuilder build, that that's kind of accurate. Normally I would never put any stock into any verbally stated preference women suggest they have, but this one seems somewhat legitimate. The women that like men that large seem to be a certain type.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 04:19 AM
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I kind of like these posts. They cut straight through a lot of crap in the community. 3 7 5.5 9 1 2 6 7
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 02:51 AM
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Again, up to the man. Personally, I would consider that a better sign than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 02:00 AM
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That's up the male judging. If a girl is monogamous till 25, then has casual sex like 14 times, that's troubling to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 01:55 AM
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No metric in life has the ultimate, unquestionable future-predicting power. Your question doesn't really make sense. Someone's previous sex life is obviously the best metric of their future sex life. Because a couple slutty chicks can actually be faithful doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/17 01:48 AM
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That was never a possibility or a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 10:59 PM
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I'm not even disagreeing with your actual position. I'd actually agree with you. I'm just disagreeing with your level of honesty that your claimed intent was inline with your choice of wording. In any case. It's not that important. You said said you wanted examples of you lying last time we spoke. This is an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 07:48 PM
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Now you're hamstering backwards. Like I've already said, if all you were trying to say is "men are fat", then your original contribution is pretty nebulous and most reads as a vague attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 07:37 PM
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Sexual history is the single most important metric for assessing the future behavior of a sexual partner. If someone is promiscuous, it's unlikely they will be able to be monogamous and remain satisfied. They've demonstrated no or little evidence they can achieve a successful monogamy. This does not mean it's not possible (necessarily disclaimer for bluepills who can't process generalities) however, it is a useful stereotype that is more often true than not. And this is such a tired argument. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 07:20 PM
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and yes, assuming that a 6 should be attracted to a 6 is a just world fallacy. you're assuming the majority of women being overweight has any impact on overweight men's ability to get laid. That was not the argued. I said you specifically called out men for being "less than" without mentioning that women are also "less than". If you're rebuttal was intellectually honest to your stated intent, you would have just said "people" in the first place, vs making a gender specific statement... Your acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 07:14 PM
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This is what people seem to have a surprising difficulty understanding: people do not have time to evaluate every single individual based on their unique merits. People need short cuts. This is a natural human function. On one hand, BluePills and women have no issue defending women implementing their own mental shortcuts for dating, and rejecting men, and it's reasonable: every woman does not have the time in the day to vet every single guy, liking her on tinder or asking her out. How then, can …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 05:13 PM
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I never said losers. I simply said most men are fat. being fat is also unattractive, ...And unattractive people are not winners... you must believe some just world bullshit if you think fat women are going to be lining up to fuck fat men because they're equals or something. it doesn't matter. No one said anything about just-world fallacies. I said you made a comment clearly meant to deride males whilst leaving out that the average female isn't actually any better. This is you "injecting" your de…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 04:53 PM
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No, it wasn't. This conversation is a waste of time. You don't understand basic differences between opinions, statements, and arguments, and for some reason you're like morally opposed to asking questions, so this is going nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:34 PM
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I already considered that. If you meant to reference only one gender, your post becomes a platitude because it has no meaning in context of the average woman. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'm going to assume this is a teachable moment in regards to your lollerific attempt to convince me you love men a week ago, and not you ignoring a gender in the given topic. Even if we ignore that, claiming most men are fat losers isn't very loving anyway. Me thinks thou dost lie too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:31 PM
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The average woman is heavier than the average man, and average people are not fit to begin with. Your comment is attempting to disproportionately attack males when the genders are basically the same on this front. Not exactly something someone who "l0o0o0ves men" would do...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:09 PM
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By definition you cannot have standards in a buyer's market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:06 PM
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Nature is kind of an asshole, so for most of us women come out on top. Do you mean you're female or do you mean U.S. women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:05 PM
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No, I made statement that you're wrong. I neither provided nor was asked for an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 08:28 PM
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I accept your apology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 11:42 PM
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Yes because you linked me making a statement, not a supporting argument that my saying it's true makes it true. I'm beginning to think you can't tell the difference between a statement and an argument in defense of a premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 11:42 PM
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Those behaviors are what Chads do. How do you think you'll become more Chad if you don't adopt what Chad does? Chad is dependant on your physical appearance first and your behavior second. Acting like chad doesn't make you a chad. Lots of observation and reflecting and practicing is all it takes. It's what natural players do, it's what women do. Disagree. Had I not found the manosphere, I'd never have been able to figure it out. Neither would most men I meet. But for most they'll just be neutral…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 11:40 PM
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You have just spewed a bunch of utter nonsense. Feminists want women to be confident, not superhuman. You are simply confident if you do not allow a man to make you feel insecure People make people feel insecure on a daily basis. People's existence makes other people feel insecure. This is not a gendered issue. The issue with the covers is mostly that it does not benefit women to have their own gender represented in ways which pleases men to an unrealistic extent Did you read this before you pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 11:35 PM
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On one hand feminists paint women as hyper secure, inhumanly confident in themselves and completely impervious to the doggish opinions of men, then on the other hand they argue women are so weak they can't handle seeing women on magazine covers who give false impressions of body image and how "real" women should look, that the can't get jobs in masculine fields without society bending over backwards to accomodate for them, and aren't agents of their own bodies enough to know when they've actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 08:58 PM
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They're culture is different. They live in a country where women are literally given to you at like 13 and that's your wife till you die. They don't even know what seduction is, let alone how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 07:24 PM
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Then I think you're delusional, and put a really really strange amount of faith in men's lack of thirst, which is a horrible horrible proposition because if there's any one thing the pillsphere has taught us is men's thirst is bottomless, but there's really no way to prove this so it's down to matter of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 07:21 PM
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No, that would require me saying "I am correct because I deem myself correct" which was never said...lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:06 AM
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How good-looking was he? And can you describe his look? White (Dutch descent), buzz cut, always wore a wife beater with low slung jeans. He was slim, but strongly built up-top. In what way was he "derpy?" And how good-looking was he and can you describe his look? And what sport did he do? He said goofy things that made him sound stupid. He was very good looking. He was strongly build. Defined muscles. I wouldn't say "swole", but "Men's Health"'esque. He played hockey. Do you think that men who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:05 AM
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It's weird because he's simultaneously a huge douchebag. He recently lost 2 female friends because he took a piece of cake at a party and smooshed it in one girl's face, and then pushed her off her stool. He knows the girl takes very special care of her make up and does not leave her house unless she looks mint. He then refused to apologize. I don't believe that girl forgave him. The other girl did though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:41 AM
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I didn't argue it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:39 AM
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That Chad getting his dick wet? Well the bad boy fucked a ton of chicks. Cheated on almost all his girlfriends and is now getting married to a hot sugar momma who wants to support him. The athlete is now a paralegal after he told me he fucked so many women in college that women bored him and he felt they offered nothing in life. He eventually got an LTR with a woman who's significantly less attractive than him though. She's cute, but he could do a lot better. Yes just talk to them till they like…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:04 AM
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Because it was violently wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 12:53 AM
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Usually marriage to a white woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:29 PM
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Can you even still poke people anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:27 PM
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I did not have a mentor. When I was young, I was good friends with several Chad's though. The first tore families apart lol. A female acquaintance of mine I introduced him to decided she was in love with him. He kinda strung her along because she wasn't sure if he really wanted her) then a while later, he met her hotter cousin and the cousin decided after about a day that she was also in love with him, which made the first girl furious because her cousin was hotter and he started ignoring her. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:22 PM
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Dicks out for HugMuffin!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 08:57 PM
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She has a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:52 PM
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I don't really care what you do or who you are. That was a comment detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:24 AM
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Holy shit. I never thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:09 AM
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You've clearly never met men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:09 AM
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That's a weird interpretation of the dynamic. It's also wrong IMO. What you're pointing out is a separate issue that has more to do with denial or resentment. Women do the exact same thing like calling other women obviously more attractive than her ugly, or bullying a girl because she has a thigh gap and the rest of the squad is jealous or something. Whatever. Different issue. Everyone knows what they are worth currently. Whether you believe what you bring to the table should be worth more or le…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 03:15 AM
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I had a female friend who was a 5 who made a basic account on OKC and POF who had to turn her notifications on her phone off because it was a constant waterfall of "DINGS". Granted being on a dating site is essentially solicitation, but every guy in our social circle has tried to fuck her. My social circle is pretty big.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 03:08 AM
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prprprprprprprpreeeeeselectioooooon! Ru-Ru-Ru-Ru-Ru-Ru-Ru-Ru-Running RIOT!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 03:00 AM
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This is an interesting claim though considering I hear all the time about how women have low self-esteem due to a myriad of insecurities. How can women believe they are worth more than men if they suffer from low self-esteem? Narcissism? I have a theory for this and have had it for years: I believe women are highly compartmentalized in their assessment of "worth" and therefore self esteem. Women are capable of believing they are simultaneously worth a lot ("omg, ew, I only date tall, dark, hands…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:14 AM
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How selectively convenient for you. Colour me surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 01:03 AM
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A disheartening reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:22 AM
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Male urge to rape is also a natural mechanism of survival, or at least your gene's survival. It's also not acceptable anymore. Just because something's natural, doesn't mean it's de facto good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 12:21 AM
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That's a bad example as incels are a literal victim (of the SMP/women); they are not going out of their way to reframe their mind's into victimhood. Thinking someone shouldn't dwell on, or that they over-indulge in their victimhood is not the same thing as saying they are literally not victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:41 PM
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Women seem to form lots of shallow friendships. Men seem to form fewer, but stronger brotherhoods in a manner of speaking. I've known a lot of women who had a best friend who hated that bitch like bi-weekly, and then the week after it's "omg...i luv uuu". Observing female friendships seems less like "friendship" and more like "acquaintances of convenience".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:36 PM
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Yup. I've always said more men need to be "team man". Unfortunately, we're just not wired that way. Someone will always sell out his fellow man for a chance at vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:32 PM
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I also treat people how I want to be treated for the most part or at least I try to, but this is getting at something a bit deeper. In general, most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 11:29 PM
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That's interesting. I could see that. Personally, I think the easier notion is simply that feminism has given a really good excuse to outsource the taking of responsibility for their failures to someone or something else as opposed to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 10:34 PM
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It's possible that may be wrong. I'm actually not sure anymore. My own experiences are starting to indicate to me that the study is right. Or perhaps that women are more willing to bolster other women, even if they hate them than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:04 PM
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I basically already have. It's only "ridiculous on it's face" if you trust in the intelligence of the general collective. I do not. You seem to believe people are smart enough to hear challenging concepts and critically think themselves into avoiding those beliefs. I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:04 PM
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The pigs new what was right for farm society. People just needed to trust them more, jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:58 PM
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I feel like I wrote "I really enjoy the movie Batman" and you wrote "fuck you, Jello is delicious"... I said that an argument can be made that the concept of free speech may be more dangerous than it's worth. Having "no overt control over someone's ability to speak" is exactly the issue that prompted me to write my reply in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:19 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:12 AM
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You mistake "can't" with "doesn't care to".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:06 AM
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And I completely disagree so obviously it's not "observably false". I'm not doing your homework for you. If you disagree, that's fine. I'm not that concerned with convincing you to dig through posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:57 PM
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It's probably the single best thing for women since women's advocacy got legs in the 1920's.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:52 PM
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You're being annoying. it's observably wrong. By what metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:51 PM
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I have been thinking about freedom of speech lately. I'm not sure if I entirely support it. At the end of the day, you're relying on people's general intelligence and gullibility to win out over inbred human desires for things like safety, security, easy answers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:40 PM
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In your opinion. At best, I would say there is tolerance, not affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 11:34 PM
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I don't take this here that seriously, I just don't think the assessment that "people are chummy, we just argue" is true. There are clearly many users who have existential hatred or disrespect for the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 07:36 PM
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Hmm. I mean it's a debate sub so there's going to be a certain level of animosity just by the nature of the thing. But I don't see much rhetoric I'd classify as outright hatred from either side. ...ughh...wow
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 03:35 AM
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Ok, well this isn't productive. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 03:32 AM
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You're assuming a lot now. You're pulling a "bluepill"...watch your step... I don't agree, I've never seen that to be the case. If women don't find you appealing enough for casual sex, they do not, or rarely want you for an LTR. Hypergamy makes it all apples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 03:01 AM
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There's no difference for men imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:51 AM
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Sorry, I thought this was America...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:30 AM
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Come on dude. I've met women who were overweight who were signficantly more attractive than skinnier women, sure, but you're arguing for extreme deviations, like 1 in 1,000,000 like BluePillers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:17 AM
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I think stage 3 and 4 are wrong. A stage should be inbetween 3 and 4, and stage 4 should be stage 5 and so on +1 for every stage. "women don't want to talk to you actively" and "women are checking you out and you can now game them to fuck you" is a massive jump in social value. There should be a stage in the middle where women neither find you attractive, nor unattractive, but can be convinced over time you have RMV, though, little SMV to satisfy their hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:15 AM
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I just explained it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:00 AM
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Anytime I explain my method I get rejected out of hand because there's no sexism or misogyny. Because you don't have one. Your "method" is look really good and have a heartbeat which is bottom barrel and worth nothing. You have no life experience relatable to these men and even if you did, you're opinions is worth nothing. It's like asking Trump's millionaire kids to weigh in on getting yourself out of poverty... But, I'm actually going to be fair right now and out of curiosity, ask what exactly…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 12:17 AM
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Yes, I have. I'd disagree; I think there are particular redpills that are liked by particular bluepills, which does not qualify as "most people don't hate the other side", otherwise, it's pretty animositous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 11:16 PM
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Like I said, I did slog through some of Peterson's lectures, and not to toot my own horn, but I think I managed to gleam more from them than the average person ever could. My point remains; he could've said everything he had to say in half the time if he wasn't so in love with the sound of his own voice. I think you radically overestimate the ability of normal, leftist, sjw types to think critically for themselves and not require long winded, all encompassing answers. Still not exactly sure what…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 11:14 PM
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I found his lectures a bore to slog through, and I'm one of the few people I know who can get through a compilation of every speech at ICMI 2016 in one sitting (yes, even Herbert Purdy's), so I daresay my tolerance for long-winded spiels is higher than most's. I don't really think social dynamic lectures are supposed to be exciting. Perhaps he's not a particularly rivetting speaker to you personally. That's fine. Actually, it's a quote from Hamlet. :) Hamlet was published in 1603 (hence my point…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 07:27 PM
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All animals are born equal. But, some animals are born more equal than others...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 07:02 PM
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No one who lacks the attention span for socio-economic gender dynamics is attending socio-economic gender dynamic debates. At least no one that matters. That quote was penned when academics actually believed in thoughtfullness and didn't think having a junky degree meant their opinion was the undisputed truth of the universe... Either way your argument is nonsensical; if you're concerned about people having a short attention span, it makes more sense to get to the meat of the issue than repeat y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 06:57 PM
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what's the point of an offtopic thread when half the community hates the other half?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 06:52 PM
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I think Jordan Peterson is a smart man. I listened to him debate the ethics counsel appointed to investigate bill C16 in Canada; basically a new bill insisting that refusing to call a person who doesn't identify with a particular gender their particular desired pronoun now qualifies as harassment and can now be punished by legal means. I thought he absolutely destroyed them and unfortunately the bill passed unanimously that very same day after the hearing. If anyone would like to watch it, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 06:48 PM
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On the other, he's really bad at getting to the point (a common problem among these professorial types as I understand). This has more to do with understanding that when arguing something like gender dynamics, it's important to head off common and obvious counter arguments before your intellectual opponents get to them, otherwise you'll spent 90% of your time explaining why they're wrong anyways and 10% of your time conducting an actual conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 06:44 PM
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...ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 05:30 PM
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I'm glad we could agree on this. #FeelsGood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:41 PM
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I mean, me and my super hot girlfriend Megan Fox are celebrating our 10th year together this July...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:20 PM
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Rough bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:17 PM
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I think there are some men who can never be apex, but I think more men can be above average than there currently are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:10 PM
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Once again, demonstrating you only have knowledge of apex SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 04:09 PM
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It's common knowledge that women love the jerk, badboy, misogynist, or at least that it is always better to treat women badly then well. I've even met quite a few ladies men who said that irate feminists were amongst the easiest to fuck with jerkgame. You're not reinventing the wheel here dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 03:58 AM
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98% of Neil Strauss' statements about his PUA lifestyle are taken out of context by people like you because it validates your agenda. Strauss isn't of the belief that PUA is wrong or did nothing; he's suggesting that the PUA ideology before it was taken over by the natural camp that you are essentially tricking women into fucking you is wrong and the routines aren't necessary. The entire point of his original book was that he could never have gotten his first girlfriend if he hadn't been a PUA a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 03:54 AM
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I don't know what you're trying to reference/suggest, or how it's relevant to what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 02:16 AM
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Woman 1 - 4.5/10 Woman 2 - 7/10 Woman 3 - 7/10 Woman 4 - 5/10 Woman 5 - 8/10 Woman 6 - 7/10 Woman 7 - 4/10 Woman 8 - 8/10 Woman 9 - 8/10
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:20 AM
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That has more to do with creating scarcity, which is the science of attraction than transactionalism. That would in fact be giving a woman an unfair transaction on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:10 AM
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This is an oversimplification of the ideological differences between Red and Blue that's leading to a premise for an argument that isn't really supported. The difference is not that Reds only believe in transactional relationships. It's that blues deny the existence of transactionalism et al. To Bloops, everyone is judged by the content of their character and never, or rarely by the value of their physicality, and if someone is either incel, MGTOW, RP or some combination of all of them, they mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/17 01:03 AM
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I've been around since the beginning. I was gone for a long time and only decided to come back recently, obviously with new accounts. You live on PPD. You have pages and pages of replies on any given thread on PPD, most of it mundane bickering from what I can tell from your post history and I do not record the things you say. I'm not going to expend much effort to prove to you something you are have no actual interest in entertaining and I don't particularly care if you actually agree. However, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 05:54 PM
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I'm constantly amazed at how little imagination people in PPD have for the sex lives and oddness of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 05:19 AM
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It's his weird thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 04:56 AM
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I didn't say you're only into chads, I made the point that many women claim to "like men", but their idea of "men" are radically masculine caricatures. If I, as a man say I love women, but the only women I actually respect or consider real "women" are Victoria Secret models, I don't really love women all that much... I very rarely meet women who actually like or respect men that aren't apex male cariactures, and you have never demonstrated, at least to me from my readings of your arguments with …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 04:45 AM
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Those are extreme deviants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:26 PM
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No, I think as most women you're pro-apex male, and you do that female thing where you think apex Chad's are "average" because those are the only men you actually associate with. That is not the same thing as "liking men". I mean the fact that you think men are better or somehow above than TRP is indicative of this. This is like saying you like cars because you like YOUR car but not any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 10:00 PM
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I knew a guy in college who was so silver tongued that nothing could happen without him. Everyone else's experience was muted and dulled without him. He could dominate a room by being completely un-zingable. They guy would just throw haymakers left and right and there was nothing anyone could do to zing him back. When we met his girlfriend, everyone was shocked she was not much better than him. He was not an overly attractive man, he I had some snaggleteeth and acne, but he could have done bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:35 PM
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I'd say a combination of all 3. Though I'd say you're more ignorant than lying and I'd say it's more B than A...I don't necessarily think bluepillers are deliberately lying. I think women deliberately lie more than BluePill men. But I think BP men lack the knowledge or critical thinking to be able to determine why a man who appears average and has above average results is not average. Whilst I am a pretty firm believer that looks are 95% of all sexual or romantic relationship ships, I will admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:14 PM
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I agree that that batting average is far above average. But I'm saying that people know how "average" works, they just don't know who or what is average. It's like I said, the bluepillers and women who think a guy who can get laid once every 30days is average are themselves not average, only associate with not-average people and therefore don't have an opinion on "average" worth considering. I think THAT is really what's going on in the forum's lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:10 PM
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I'm not really sure what this question is trying to get at. I mean I understand your point but I don't think anyone disagrees about the concept of average; I think they disagree about who or what is average. I think there are people who ccan appear average but in fact be extraordinary under the surface. What I will say, and this is something I've been thinking a out a lot lately, is that it appears to me that almost no one, or at least few of the regulars on PPD are or have ever been competing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 07:01 PM
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Women are not hardwired to be hypergamous, as per the reds' view and they are not looking for a man who is 'superior' to them in every important way. Women are not 'hypergamous, fullstop'. And as I said in a recent OP, women adapt to prevailing circumstances - and because they adapt, hypergamy is decreasing. Do you have an argument for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 04:02 AM
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Now a note on my use of the word 'hypergamy' because there was a lot of contention the last time I did this. The word 'hypergamy' is a term used by sociologists. It has been used by them since before the members of TRP were even born. You can take any quantitative value (education, age, income, number of bananas eaten I your lifetime, anything) and say women are hypergamous with respect to that thing. This means she married someone with a higher number (of partners or money or anything). It isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:58 AM
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You have an odd way of showing that that is your relation to the male gender. You do intellectual backflips to make sure women are either the victim, blameless, or deified in almost every thread dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:49 AM
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Because it's both. There are lots of reasons people decide to cease contact. Sometimes it's because it's a threatening situation, sometimes it's because they said something that crossed a line, sometimes it's because they barely know each so who cares, sometimes it's because a life crisis happens. Now you're conflating two different premises. No one is talking about whether or not people should care. I've been ghosted, it hurts for a day, then you get over it. That doesn't mean it's a defensible…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:44 AM
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BluePill isn't about making the SMP more amoral; it's about making sure women are evangelized and men are demonized in whatever manner is most convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 03:38 AM
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I don't know how you got that from what I wrote, but sure, I'm sure lots of reds don't like that women have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 02:49 AM
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What a convenient and retarded platitude for reinforcing one's own beliefs without having to defend anything. I wish I was that gullible... :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 12:43 AM
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Umm, I believe in the radical notion that women are people and having sex with them is not akin to "probing" or whatever misogynistic shit you're spewing, ok? Lyk, gawd...Sounds to me like you need to learn how to respect women harder...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 11:51 PM
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This entire topic is not one you are suited to understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:19 PM
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What does her being Asian have to done with anything? I never said it had anything to do with anything. I said the girl that went nuts was an innocent little asian girl because that's who it was... Virtue signalling is not going to make you look cool. Anyway, what do you want from people, a notorized letter saying It's Over? If it's not working out and it's only been one date or two, what's the big deal about ceasing contact? Take the hint. Lol, now you're shifting back from "well, people get vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:18 PM
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From what I've seen, and what I've read of parenting studies and what not, the name you give your kid and the whether or not you put your kid in sports are the only 2 significant impacts parents have on their children. Children are almost entirely raised by society, and their personal sensibilities along with their particular social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 10:06 PM
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Oh, I know, It's just interesting probing the ever changing moral goalposts of BluePill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:22 PM
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Have you met "normal human beings"? They're not a very good metric for virtuousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:21 PM
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I have actually, an innocent little asian girl, who went as far as to claim I was conspiring with an acquaintance of mine to ruin her life lol. I, however, did not ghost her. Ghosting because you can is not cool, and I endeavor not to do it because it's cowardly and actively makes the world a worse place for no real reason. I would not defend it on a forum, nor would I call people who don't ghost desperate losers (lol), which is saying a lot about you right now. That being said, if someone is cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 08:33 PM
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Rejection and ghosting are not synonymous. You can reject someone without ghosting them and people's willingness or lack of it to ghost says a lot about their character. Control your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 08:12 PM
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no, women's attractiveness is on a bell curve. Everyone's attractiveness is on a bell curve. What are you talking about? and women will always turn down men substantially less attractive than them, so a guy who has misjudged his own attractiveness and unknowingly hunts for women more attractive than him will perceive women as pickier than they are. I think this speaks to your lack of knowledge of the modern SMP. I can see where you got that from theoretically, but it's wrong practically. Again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:15 PM
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I made it fairly clear that the qualifier there were idle distraction and dopamine sinks. They didn't have Reddit, Imgur, Netflix and video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:08 PM
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That's not really a strategy though, that's more like happening to get lucky when she realized you're a reliable source of emotional tampons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:05 PM
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Your fouth point sounds great until you see as I do tons of guys dating UP all the time. I see 5s with 8s constantly. It isn't just the top tier guys getting laid. You just need to be unique and know your niche. I don't agree or believe that. I've never in my life seen a man legitimately swing outside his league when not accounting for wealth or some kind of local fame. The problem for most redditor virgins is being a computer nerd/anime lover isn't exactly a niche that nets you pussy. I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 06:01 PM
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Nothing I said has anything to do with what you just said. I think you replied to the wrong person... That being said, it's statistically proven most people's partner count is below 10. It's the apex males who clean house.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 05:56 PM
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I have consistently and repeatedly seen men rate themselves as higher than they are. it's simple observation. it has nothing to do with women's egos since these men don't generally even register on women's radar... at least not the women they're pursuing. it's only places like reddit where these conversations occur. That doesn't matter. All women and their dogs think they're 9/10's. What matters who they're going for, who they accept, and what they actually require as a base line. Just because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 10:00 PM
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women do not strictly go for men of "higher value," that's omega male projection. Women go for men of higher value than themselves, and most women, with the use of make up, and clothing (all easily accessible off-a-shelf free SMV points) are at least a 5.5 or 6/10. the issue is that low value men perceive themselves to be higher value than they are, and so assume women are going for superior men when they're actually going for their equals. This is a common and trite argument that circles around…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 09:24 PM
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First, what you've said has no correlation to what I've said. Women making men wait doesn't does not contradict my argument that men who cannot achieve casual sex also cannot achieve LTRs. Second, I'd disagree with that general concept. It seems like it's womanese that's been repeated so many times, it's accepted as fact. A woman of quality is only going to date a man of even greater quality. A man of even greater quality can do literally whatever he pleases meaning trying to force him to wait i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:58 PM
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Oh, yes. Solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:17 PM
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Define "that".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:14 PM
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You've lost me. Relevance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:13 PM
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And the study you cite, as well as others, shows this to be decidedly not the case. No it doesn't. I don't understand what about this people never get mathematically, but ANYTIME the CDC studies are brought up, this is the first thing everyone says... If the average woman has 4 partners, and the average man has 6 partners from 18-35, it is entirely possible the men all had 6 one night stands lasting only once, but the women were all carousel riding 4 chads in FWB relationships for extended perio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:11 PM
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This is a weird BluePill'ism... I don't think I've ever had a female friend, or a female acquaintance whose partner count went unstated. Even if someone made an effort to keep their sexual history a secret, it is easy to guess what someone's count is based on their persona, and appearance and the number is almost only ever higher; i've never met a woman or man who's N count was guessed/assumed and later was discovered to be less than we all thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:04 PM
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Women having 4 partners on average doesn't mean women are having less sex. That is not how math works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:01 PM
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but I am NOT Chad by any means, lol. Said every chad ever. But in all seriousness, I've known your PPD persona for years and you have only ever bolstered the idea that you are chad. If anyone on PPD is a genuine chad, you'd almost unquestioningly be amongst them. It seems to me that "chads" rarely know they are "chads", which ironically is the most "chad"'ish thing about them. Regular dudes are not meeting women out and about, and having bathroom sex without knowing each other's names. That's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:59 PM
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Linking a post with a leading question and 5540 replies doesn't prove anything in your favour. Reddit is the 4th most popular internet site in the world (or something). 5000 derps who missed someone means nothing. Even the most socially proficient individuals will miss an IOI at some point in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:52 PM
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3) I personally believe most single men are looking for a relationship. that doesn't mean they won't take purely casual sex if it presents itself, but that's not often the end goal. several of my guy friends have gone through long single periods where they were able to get laid and they still bemoaned the lack of intimacy. Newp. This is a somewhat common counter argument, and it's mostly female solipsism. There is no distinction for men; both ONS, FWB, and LTR relationships all initiate the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:50 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:32 PM
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This was a REALLY long text wall to say basically nothing but how people act when they are sexually attracted to you which the people this is designed for do not experience in the first place. Most people's problem (normie and incel alike) is getting the attraction, not how to tell when you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:26 PM
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Some men may feel they deserve it individually...that's not the same as saying TRP says men deserve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:16 PM
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That doesn't disprove anything I said, or make OPs question less ridiculous. Yes it does, because your whole argument as to why it's worse for women hinges on 2 actions which are voluntary. Women are the ones that lose out financially in the event of a divorce, not men. Based on what? Explain it to me without copy/pasting other people's (dubious) articles. You've linked two fairly bland articles that really say nothing expect "women [who now live off only her own income] are more likely to fall …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 03:17 PM
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Your argument hinges on the fact that the woman voluntarily sacrificed her career and then voluntarily reproduced, both of which were voluntarily and have nothing to do with marriage or divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:37 PM
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It's been an highly "normie" socio-economic trend that few people except upper class academics get married now. It has nothing to do with "overly analytical weirdos". Calling someone an overly analytical weirdo for not wanting to get married also does nothing to demonstrate why marriage is a sensible idea; it's just a weak ad-hom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:33 PM
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We really need to get rid of "classy" from the modern lexicon. It's 2017; our generation spends their time autistically screeching about SJW ethics, deifying instagram "models", and DM'ing people dick pics. No one's been "classy" since, like, the 1950s...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:30 PM
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Your opening question is foolish, so I'm going to answer your second (and better) question instead: Why? Why do you need to fuck a new girl every year or month or week? I get that they think it would be great fun, but RPillers seem to believe that men deserve our sympathize if they don't get to bang 20 different hoes in college. They don't. TRP is concerned with the fact that achieving a rewarding sex life, and retaining some power of choice for men is becoming increasingly difficult, or impossi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:25 PM
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Several major reasons in my opinion... First, people had less to actually do. Snapchat and reddit didn't exist. People before the internet had much better social skills. Second, people were sexually limited to their immediate stomping grounds. Nowadays you can pull out tinder, get a match, and uber yourself 20 miles across town. You couldn't do that in 1930. Third, and this one seems to be one of the larger ones I hear from actual studies and what not, but life is much harder leaving less time f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:16 PM
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Why would one not hunt witches? That seems like a fairly noble endeavor. Sounds like your pro-witch to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:03 PM
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Um, ya brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:18 AM
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If you're a derp, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 07:18 AM
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No one is fucking at work but I mean the notion of not shitting where your at is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 09:13 PM

That's a really stupid BluePill'ism. That's the same argument you people make about your insane beliefs that you can smell misogyny on men even though it's been repeatedly demonstrated through like...everything that there is no possible way to know how someone feels unless they purposely do not hide it or actively tell you about it. Every human alive has known lots of people who had secret opinions like hating their "bff", or disliking a movie their SO loves, or being conservative in a liberal w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 07:27 PM
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Almost everyone I know has met all or most of their sexual partners at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 07:22 PM
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I don't understand the confusion in the question. Are you unaware that a Tinder is a meat market for women? My roommate, who is quite successful with women in real life got 12 matches when everyone was on the Tinder craze last year. Of those I think most of them were bots and scams so maybe only 5real women. Our female friend, who was maybe a 4 at the time had over 300 within 2 weeks, many of them were really attractive men who were actively pursuing her. She got so picky, she began rejecting gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 07:14 PM
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This is a crazy interpretation of this event. The father more than likely is just shamed by by having a slutty daughter and her not having the decency to keep her sex life out of her father's face. I support the father's choice. He can do as he pleases. Personally, I'd probably talk to my daughter before banishing her. Then again, a girl like that can basically get anything she needs for free from beta orbiters, sexual partners or social privileges so her lifestyle really won't change much nor i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 07:09 PM
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The biggest culprits are women who insist "nice guys" are literally Jew burning Hitlers no matter how many times you explain to them the sociological causes of nice guy'ism, or why someone would turn on you after "appearing" nice, it's always NOPE. THEYRE EVIL. YOU CANT BE FRUSTRATED AND ALSO A NICE PERSON AT THE SAME TIME. YOU DUN UNDERSTIND! MEN ARE JUZ JERK. I KNOW BETTER THAN U!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:10 PM
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A cyanobacteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:33 PM
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Even if it is my experience, what makes it untrue? Whilst I disagree with your definition of alpha anyway, it's not that I think it's untrue, it's that I don't see the value in the premise. It's like if I have 6 apples, and I pick out all the apples that have stems still attached vs the ones that don't. They're still apples, they still taste the same. We've done nothing practical by examining the two that came with a stem. If a person wants Z, but only being offered X, they're going to feel dism…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 09:22 PM
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1) I said I live in a bubble. 2) I never said their experiences are the norm Yes, yet your op is about reclassifying men based on your experience. What I am saying is that their experiences are valid. Meaning that when a man wants love and romance from a woman, but she only sees him as sex and nothing more , he's going to feel rejected and disappointed Within context, sure. In the grand scheme of things, it doesnt matter. The experiences of the 1%ers is also "valid" in the economy but sitting th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:59 PM
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I actually think this is pure redpill theory. You, a woman, surround yourself with attractive men who achieve casual sex easily, therefore all your world views on men are disporportionately skewed to believing disproportionately small group of apex males represent all males. Very textbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:15 PM
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Because women don't like them. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:50 AM
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There you go. You did need to keep up the people population. Which means women are having the babies needed to keep countries running. No it doesn't. It means women are not having the babies required to replace the population, and instead our population grows via induction of adults from other nations who already had children, came alone, had children after they came here. If all women in my, or any nation stopped wanting babies tomorrow, there'd be a good 70 years before it was a problem in nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:08 AM
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No. Untrue. We need a constant rate to keep things going the way they are. No we don't. Many first world countries have falling birth rates, and have for possibly decades. My countries natural birthrate has been in decline since I was in middle school and almost all our population growth is via immigration. No. Untrue. Men over 40 begin experiencing erectile dysfunction and impotence and their sperm (when they do ejaculate) takes an increasingly long amount of time to get a woman pregnant, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:45 PM
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My comment? No where was it stipulated that sacrifice is about intent rather than result. I can sacrifice my entire life in the name of my country and not be entitled to a single thing. That it's not "bad" for society for working mothers to have children who presumably give back to society. Why is this hard to understand? No one was ever denying that. Whether it's bad or not is entirely up to the individual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 06:42 PM
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Literally everyone has a different immune system than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:50 AM
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I would argue BluePillers and /r/TheBluePill is far more an actual cult than RedPill is. Let's examine what makes a cult a cult. According to a study adapted into a book published in 2006 called "Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships" by Dr. Janja Lalich PHD and Dr. Madeleine Tobias PHD, a cult must... [Keep in mind "leader" is used loosely, and a cult isn't required to satisfy every criteria, only many of them] ...displays excessively zealous and unquestioning com…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 01:24 AM
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Obviously. This isn't about intent. It's about the result. Says who, based on what? I never said they were making some "sacrifice" for the greater good. I asked if working mothers having children was ultimately better for "society." And I also disagree with you, most of the women I know do all that shit. That was the point of the person you were siding with, so what is YOUR point then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 12:25 AM
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Women aren't having kids for the benefit of society. They're having kids because they want kids. Society isn't asking or demanding women fuck and make kids. Therefore, it's not a sacrifice they're making for their neighbour, it's a personal sacrifice she volunteered to make because women can rarely both work, pay taxes, homemake, and raise a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 11:32 PM
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No. I am saying, quite clearly, that if all women decide to stop having kids tomorrow, we will be sunk within a couple of generations. Your perception of children as some kind of necessity that must be constantly in production is really odd. If half as many women were having children we'd be fine, and if we needed more children (which we won't) then we can just encourage people to have more children. Men can have children till they die. We will never be in a situation in which we go extinct beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 11:29 PM
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I'm not supporting not backing up one's arguments. I am in full support that backing up one's claim is generally required in a debate sub. What I don't support is bluepill sourcefagging, which /u/HugMuffin attempted. It's a common bluepill tactic where RedPills can say some generally accepted stuff, and some bluepill will come along and demand a source for everything but the kitchen sink and then deny them all. No one is going to waste their day searching the internet for a credible source that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 11:18 PM
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I do not think women expect privileges for their sacrifice of having a baby, I think they just want babies, and then go "oh, wait, having a kid in 2017 is a socio-economically bad idea, but feminism has taught me I am not a free agent in life, therefore you all should all cater to me". One of the issues facing my city recently is the increasing cost of child-care and it always kind of amazes me how many women are having these children before knowing, studying, or adding up whether or not they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 11:01 PM
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Then you should be able to provide a counter argument beyond reproach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:58 PM
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You act like the human population is going to fall to extinction tomorrow unless we keep pumping out 2.5 children. Decreasing the human population would take many many years, and we could honestly use it at this point. It's both a choice and a sacrifice. Women do sacrifice work for children. Women do choose to have children and do want to have them. (Some women, not all). If we make it too unattractive for women to have children, we'll end up like Japan. Japan is Japan because they have an issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:57 PM
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I don't think anyone could honestly disagree with this. As far as sexual preferences go, I'd argue most people's sexual preferences are not in any serious way different and mostly consist of differences in window dressing. As far as Hyperrreal's opinion goes, there are a lot of studies that show people actually do not like difference and prefer people who resemble themselves and puts to rest the notion that opposites attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:48 PM
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This post is mostly a mess. Reading through it, other people have torn the first source down as it's just a poor argument. As others have said, it's like concluding all men do more drugs because more male are in prison for drug offences. The two things may be correlated for a couple of reasons, not caused. The second source ...well, first of all I'm going to premise everything I say by stating that self reported studies for anything, ever are absolute garbage and I immediately lose respect for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:09 PM
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Source whoring doesn't make you right, it's a weak style of debate that tends to demonstrate you can't think for yourself without a bunch of people in lab coats telling you what to believe. Anyone can produce a source saying almost anything. Everything /u/IAmSamurai said was common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:44 PM
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Most people's genetic potential is not their handicap. Nature pretty much does it's best to make sure the majority of people aren't disgusting; most humans reproduce. The modern human is not held back because of their genes, they're held back because they lack the effort of willpower to work out, dress better, learn makeup, and do their hair everyday. Yes, you can argue that your capacity for willpower is also genetic, but that's getting into heavy nuance. Not many people have a genetic ceiling …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:18 PM
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Absolutes like that are rarely true. We have no idea what society would be like if trans-humanism truly existed, it's all speculation. Perhaps we would live in a post-scarcity communist society with no castes and no competition? That's not likely, and even if it was, you're still gambling on your kid's future instead of just offering them the oppurtunity to improve it themselves. Lol, SMV is highly related to genetic potential. 90% of people are no where near their genetic potential. Almost ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 06:06 AM
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Why are you even on a debate/discussion sub? Because debating is useful. What is your aim? Shifting or cementing my beliefs. You've obviously been hurt by women and have formed an opinion that I find pretty extreme. You're a woman; it would be weird if you didn't think it was "extreme". Are you still in anger phase? Anger phase doesn't exist. It's a weird TRP cuck argument in attempting to appeal to BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 05:59 AM
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That would be a black market. High ranking people aren't going to sell their key to privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 01:14 AM
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"Opening up the conversation" =/= goalpost fallacy Hence, impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:47 PM
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Ok? Thanks for agreeing...?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:23 PM
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If you allow transhumanism, then you allow caste based society. If you allow caste based society. There is no guarantee your kid would be in the upper class. You think it's great because you're doing the stupid thing girls do where they think their kid is automatically gonna be The Rock/Megan Fox because they fucked a drunk alpha at a party once therefore they're winning humanity but you're ignoring that if humans allow the socio political descrimination of genes, the chances you or your childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:16 PM
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We don't care about their "sexual strategy" and how well they pass our "shit tests". All that matters is being relatively good looking and having halfway decent social skills, which is something that any guy who was actually having casual sex would know. The only red pill techniques that are at all relevant are "be confident" and "lift" but pretty much every socially well adjusted guy already knew that. If this was true, anyone not an incel, would be Zac Efron. Obviously this is not the case, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:10 PM
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That requires a level of respect you really haven't earned. You've been here 45min, you've conducted most of the conversation in bad faith, and you haven't made particularly compelling arguments on an argument subreddit. More like you should rise to this level of conversation. In any even, we're at an impasse, so im fine leaving it be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:20 AM
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Whilst I'll admit being an attractive man of course doesn't mean you're basic, but you're talking horseshit if you honestly believe this is a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:36 PM
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I would argue it's still a better demonstration of some level of respect otherwise they'd just rape them. Furthermore, I'd actually argue nobody cares what anybody is going through except maybe your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:23 PM
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You're assuming an awful lot to hamster this away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:21 PM
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That's not what the quote is saying. It's saying the well-being of one party is the responsibility of their sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:20 PM
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It seems to be trying to suggest the well being of one party is the onus of another. Whilst I wish the world worked that way, this is naive, and unrealistic. Disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:19 PM
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Men value character because high character people, even if they are low SMV can be valuable to other males, male good friends, honest allies, warbuddies, etc. Women on the other hand, often don't have character at all. If they do or claim to, I've noticed they're principles are highly maleable and transient. Women seem more often attributed what I suppose could be called character by their social allies via the state of being allied and lose it by the state of no longer being allied/rejected by …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:12 PM
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Dude... These questions...on a sub like this? You might as well ask "are you a little bitch? First one to hit reply is a lil'bitch".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:05 PM
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People are having less sex for a couple reasons, none of which are really about "cool". The first problem with this theory is that it can't be artificially reproduced. If I asked you "how do I get laid?" And you told me "be cooler", that means nothing. If I then extrapolate "cool" to be "do drugs and party", that leads into the second problem with your theory in that it answers nothing; being a guy who parties and does drugs but is still average SMV is going to net you the same average SMV resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:58 PM
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The wall isn't a good theory. As a TRP, I fully admit the wall is a bad theory, and doesn't really exist. Women always win. Women ALWAYS win. Many people in general are not their most attractive at 18 and a 35yr old woman who takes good care of herself will still radically outperform an 18 yr old who doesn't to the same degree. The typical RP counter argument is "well that same woman had more potential at 18 to be better than she is at 35" which is sort of a useless theoretical proposition to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:42 PM
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That's not what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:36 PM
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Women's personalities matter exponentially less with every given increase in SMV pointage. A 5's personality matters. A 9 could murder a bus full of senators and also be a child molester, nobody will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 07:27 PM
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I never understood this talking point. Even if it was true, which I think it's not because the concept is incoherent, I think the argument could be made and supported so much more strongly in the opposite direction; that if anyone doesn't see anyone else as "people" it's clearly women that do not see men as people. Men have underground cults trying to figure out how to make women like them and go in shooting sprees when they can't figure it out. I don't see many men murdering people because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:27 PM
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So, first and foremost, I'd say you're being somewhat duplicitous in regards to claiming you never intended to suggest sexism or racism is bad all around; you spent a good deal of your verbal effort reinforcing the idea that one side has more authority than the other to use specific words, ideas, and biases. This would be equivalent to me saying "the poor who pay little taxes have less right to vote than the middle class who pay the most taxes given their income.... But no citizens should have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:33 PM
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I don't want you to say anything, I'm only pointing out that you're discussing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:21 PM
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That seems to defeat the point. If you have to actually win, then the only people who can truly check high value assholes are high(er) value men who happen to be less assholey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:20 PM
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Yes you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:15 PM
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You can't check a dick unless you either have a silver tongue or you have more social influence than he does. Otherwise people follow the value and if he had the higher social value, your social capital falls. I actually have a lot of experience seeing this first hand right now in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 08:35 PM

The stats I found cite women only make up 26% of all oil industry employees as of 2015. Where are your stats citing that 20% of the 26% chunk are put drilling and not working HR in the cubicle?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:19 PM
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Lmao, the ol' "demand proof, commit a goalpost fallacy, then blame the generality on the individual's assumed sexual preferences" gag eh? You bloops need some new strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:00 PM
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Waste of time. You've surely already decided not to accept any example I provide in an attempt to showcase how my previously stated opinion is wrong and women really are the magical beasts you believe them to be. But I'm now more curious how you're going to brush it away so I'll play ball for a bit. Hmm, let's see...there was Jacqueline who went out with his guy who everyone knew liked her a lot and on the very first date, she ditched him to fuck this other guy in the bushes. There was that girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 08:35 AM
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What /u/breakfastopiates said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 12:35 AM
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No. WaW mixed with increasing degrees of moral relativism and white knights is a powerful agent. I dont think men as we currently are could ever oppose that. You're basically trying to say manosohere types can get revenge on women by punishing them for not living up to WaW. This is unrealistic. For every manosohere type, any given women has a binder full of orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:08 PM
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Your question doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:07 AM
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Never in my almost 30 yrs of life and thousands of female interaction have I ever encountered a woman either in real life or online who took particular care "not to be mean" when it comes to what they want in men and how they treat women they view as inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:25 AM
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Ignoring that the question is fucking stupid and low quality as fuck, this thread could legitimately serve as a TRP recruitment tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:23 AM
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Plot Twist what if it's actually just you who has bad taste in women...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:20 AM
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You sound fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:19 AM
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You're a very strange man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:27 AM
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The premise of your entire write up is that women, and blue pills, namely feminine brained men in general, lack the ability to think abstractly.... ...So what are you now saying if you're now saying "that it doesn't mean they can't"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:04 AM
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You've now ignored in it's entirety the point of my reply, and focused instead on the nuances behind an apparently scientifically flawed analogy, somewhat proving the OP's point...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 12:02 AM
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I made a post in another thread about how women and feminine-minded men struggle with abstract thinking. Actually, they barely understand the point of abstract thinking in the first place, to them it's autistic navel gazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:59 PM
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Almost nothing BluePill thinkers say is an actual rebuttal, ever; that's not the point. The point is BluePillers routinely engage in the same tactics for definine their world views as RedPill do which BluePillers claim is [insert all possible negative qualites]. Essentially, the poster is positing that BluePillers aren't any better than RedPillers when a primary founding principle of BluePillers is moral superiority and intellectual honesty. Saying "who cares" doesn't add anything of value to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:47 PM
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All neuro-typical humans excel in abstract thinking. In fact, we kinda need to in order to use the language that we do. Maybe you have some weird personal definition of 'abstract thinking' but again, that would be a very convenient rhetorical device No. Any human who performs a skill that is required for basic living every single day is going to get good at it whether they excell at it or not. Just because I can speak english perfectly, and have a pretty expansive vocabulary doesn't mean I'm goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:44 PM
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Whilst your point is really interesting, I don't think it holds much water. How can we universally declare that women are incapable of abstract thinking? I would agree 100 ways to sunday that women rarely engage in thought(s) unrelated to their personal solipsism(s). I think that women and bluepillers simply make bad an unimpressive arguments because they haven't invested in actually understanding their intellectual opponents and they lack the willingness or ability to entertain a thought withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 11:40 PM
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You've entirely missunderstood the first half of my reply, and committed the same fallacy your previous reply suffered from which I already pointed out to you was a fallacy. I never said anything about women wanting to get back at RedPills, I don't know where you got that from. Many women date older men. Whether it's 3 yrs age difference or 20yrs age difference, many women do it. Your argument that the average is only 1-2yrs is also wrong. Your attack on my social life is also wrong; I'm quite s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 05:44 AM
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What is the heaviest you've ever weighed?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 05:39 AM
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No one's claiming women stay attractive at 100yrs old to 20yr old men... The point he's making is that a woman who's hot at 20 is going to make a hot 40yr old and a hotter 60yr old than someone who was below average at the same age ranges and furthermore, that a woman who's a 9 at 20yrs old would be the more desired woman to a 20yr old man if she's 45 than a woman who's also 20 like him, but only a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 05:38 AM
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You're both wrong. I'll disagree with /u/Returnofthemack3 that this is universal, but I'd also disagree with you as you're pretty clearly trying to be hyperbolic in the hopes of hurting RP feelings or something. It's very obvious to anyone who's left their house in the last like 50 years that women do enjoy older men. The difference of age is up to the woman but 3 to 10 yrs is not abnormal. No one cares that none of your friends don't like this; they're statistically insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:17 AM
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No. If you fail in highschool/college, provided you didn't have some kind glaring flaw that can be corrected later, you'll continue to fail as you age. The idea that men appreciate in value is, unfortunately, a revenge fantasy that isn't true unless you're either hot or rich, and it usually requires being both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:13 AM
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This entire post is asenine. I'm not going to go into it because other members have already highlighted the ridiculousness of claiming the boy band guys are representative of the average male teenager, but the divide between "spineless" and "has a spine women respect" is fucking cavernous.... I've met guys who'd break your arm for eating their pizza pop, but let their girlfriends win every argument... Your premise is out of touch and incoherent. Which is really a great descriptor of all BluePill…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:36 PM
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How can the misogyny of TRP considered to "work" when it is required to be hidden from potential partners? Magic tricks don't amaze people if they know you just dropped the bird into a secret compartment... TRP actively teaches subscribers to present a completely different personality than the one they share on TRP Job interviews don't go very well if your employer knows you don't intend to stay very long and don't care about the job much. TRP is considered weak and unattractive. Anger/resentmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:24 PM
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The is is like asking why feminists are writing articles about manspreading when it has nothing to do with equal rights. The answer is simple; because the redpill is about more than self improvement and people who say it isn't, or "it's just anger phase" are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 05:08 PM
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That's not really new(s). When partners are in short supply, relationships last longer. There are towns in Alaska where some women have like 4 boyfriends because all the men there work on oil fields or or fishing rigs, and there are no women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 12:48 AM
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You're dunk Stone Pimple. Go home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:35 PM
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Do it often?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:13 PM
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They are reaffirmed like, daily. They just don't use the words "alpha/beta/omega".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:31 PM
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Science isn't really in anyone's side. It's a tool. Everything we know about any given subject that isn't basically a law of nature could be thrown out tomorrow upon the discovery of something new. There is even a scientific understanding that facts only last about 6 years until they're no longer true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:29 PM
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The idea that homosexuality was rampant in the old days is mostly wrong. The Greeks may have been free-wheelers, but being gay was certainly stigmatized in Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:26 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:18 PM
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Nice girls don't know this either that when men say that they want smart girls they actually mean good looking smart girls. False equivalency. Did you not read what I just wrote? But most of us learn and stop whining about it. We don't blame Disney or rom coms. So? Why shouldn't any given man be upset for whatever reason he wishes to be upset, and take his issue to a subreddit made for men by men? Why do all BluePillers think they get to be the emotion police?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 01:35 AM
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BOOM
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:13 AM
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The difference between men and women's sexual preferences is men's desire operates on a spectrum. There is a much, MUCH wider array of women men are willing to date than men women are willing to date. A man saying he wants a woman who can have a real conversation doesn't mean he'll date a swamp monster, but it certainly doesn't mean that he's only interested in models who read the instruction manual for the rosegold iPhone once. In contrast, women's spoken desires really have no real world conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 12:00 AM
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The problem with the "douchebag" dynamic is BluePills can't be honest. It's really just an avenue of attack towards RedPills, there's no real way anyone in their right mind can claim they've never met a generally unpleasant, rude, cruel person they've believed to be a "douchebag", "asshole" whatever. For ANYONE to question the general notion of what makes a person a "douchebag", you have to really sit down and actively work at trying to be as dishonest as humanly possible. NOW, where some might …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:33 PM
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The bottom will fall out. You know the 80/20 thing TRP's are always talking about? Well right now that's exaggerated, it's more like 60% of women only want the top 35% of men'ish imo, but it will shift more and more to actually being 80/20 and the rest of humans will either live a life of short-term relationships, or they'll get their satisfaction from the adult industry or sexbots when that becomes a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:23 PM
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So, first and foremost, it is not unreasonable for someone who has been taught to give back to their community to feel frustrated when no one cares that they're rising above when other people are not. Childish, yes, missing the point? Yes, but understandable. This BluePill talk about Nice Guys always, and I mean with 106% certainty, ALWAYS misses the real issue behind "nice guys" being that they are being nice because they've been taught that being nice works. It is not some RP fantasy that if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 11:17 PM
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Ive taken several IQ tests, I get 138 pretty consistently. On that version where the curve is lower (Binett test perhaps?) I think it's equal to 114'ish. Edit: I have recently been informed by official Purple House documents that my Binett is 125. Thank you for your time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:51 PM
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I think you're being dishonest if you're going to suggest that this is a nuance most feminists argue with in mind. It certainly is not;most feminists and feminism absolutely accept on its face that women are making 75% of what men earn for the same jobs. I've heard some feminists claim it's actually 91% or 92% or 85%, but never 2%. Furthermore, women who advocate for pay gap reduction never address the underlying issues that accompany that such as women being poorer value propositions due to chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:45 PM
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The problem is inherent to the context of the community; the topics are simply talked-out amongst the people willing to actually talk them out. There's nothing new to say anymore except a few unique posters who have extremist views on particular topics. No mod rulings or megathreads are going to actually fix that. What the community really needs is more actual BluePillers, where as 98% of BluePillers currently in this sub are red-leaning purples who just don't like the women-bashing of TRP and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:37 PM
1

Is that what took off the final 2 points for you? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 03:39 PM
1

You've said this to me or others at least twice on various accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:20 AM
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And one of those unpleasant truths is that no one cares about your glory days. Ill give you some credit though, you usually claim to be a 10/10. 8 is pretty generous for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:22 PM
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Let me be blunt. Nobody cares about your bragging. You are wrong. Your logic is wrong, and your genepool suffers from your lack of logistical skills. I bet you also hate pineapple on pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 09:52 PM
1

False dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 07:36 AM
1

That was honestly the stupidest argument. It's not a benefit because being offered jobs is annoying? You're trolling at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 04:05 AM
1

Many subjects and topics within modern school corriculum are garbage. Your subjective opinion in what is and isn't garbage isn't relevant. The topic is whether it would be beneficial or practical in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:07 PM
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If you have a job that pays $30,000 a year and someone wants to offer you one that pays $20,000 a year, that is an advantage vs someone who is receiving no offers and cant find work because even if you get fired you have a plethora of other jobs to pick from. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 07:04 PM
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School should be for challenging young minds, not your bluepillers safe space garbage. There's no real reason not to teach RP as an approach to life philosophy and humanity in a philosophy course. Of course it won't be because as of now, it's just an internet cult. A hugely growing internet cult with apparently political influence in New Hampshire now but RP is no Plato. My school had a philosophy course and it was very useful for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:57 PM
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Yes, raising a generation's of confused, and angry Elliot Roger potentials is better than having them be cynical, but prepared.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:53 PM
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Reality doesn't care what you think is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:50 PM
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You really cannot break out of your own solipsism. Just because you don't want it doesn't make something not an advantage over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 08:43 PM
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Anita Sarkeesian got famous for making a feminist hit piece on the gaming industry that was factually incorrent and logical incoherent, that took her all the way to the Daily Show and being a guest speaker at the UN. How well do you think the people who corrected her did?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 02:25 AM
1

How is this relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:47 PM
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You think you're Neo, but you're really just one of the nameless guys floating in goo. Antifeminism was the status quo for thousands of years and still is. If you honestly believe that, you've either a troglodyte living in a cornfield in Arkansas, or you've been asleep since 1950. People lose their jobs for disagreeing with feminism, SJW'ism, and various other leftist monoliths these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:46 PM
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There are no women on the internet until proven GoneWild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:24 PM
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Nothing about what you just said makes sense, and we're all less intelligent for having heard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:23 PM
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TRP which is a super toxic place that hurts men, women and children alike. How... [buckles in]
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:18 PM
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I've noticed when men hate themselves, it's a full, intensive dislike of their value to society, themselves, perhaps even the human race. It's "I hate that I'm a poor specimen of a male human being. I should have X. I can't do Y" etc. When women "hate" themselves, it's usually rather token and compartmentalized. How often do we see women who think they're ugly cows or something and they're still riding a carousel? Still rejecting men otherwise of equal SMV. Still making statements and behaving i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:13 PM
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No, an advantage is any benefit or gain. Not wanting something and having something be beneficial to you are not mutually exclusive. Having 10 people to date you don't want is advantageous vs anyone with less than 10 people to date whether you actually want to date them or not. It's NOT and advantage vs the person with 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:15 AM
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There is no problem with my argument. My argument is air-tight. Your argument that an option isn't an option if you don't want it is nonsense. YOu don't understand the definition of an advantage if you think an advantage is only an advantage if you want it. That would mean male and white privilege is only really a privilege if men and whites actively pursue it, which of course is a stupid statement to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:54 AM
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One animal's life is fairly easy; they just have to avoid getting eaten. The other animals life is fairly hard; they have to outperform the previous animal's ability to resist getting eaten. Therefore, it may be more rewarding to be a successful lion, but the Gazelle has it much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 09:06 PM
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No, I read them. The vocabulary was very simple, as one would expect from a dude with cock pics all over the internet, im just trying to figure out how you figured that made sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:28 AM
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I ...don't even know what that's supposed to mean. Talking to you never ceases to be an adventure in futility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:36 PM
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That's fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:10 PM
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Why are you so intent on maintaining that the ability to get something that you don't want is an advantage? Because there are things in the world that are true and things in the world that are not true, and when we allow some woman on PPD to propagandize falsehoods and lies to better suit her personal narrative, it reinforces the shit that got men and women, but mostly men into this modern cesspool of shitty gender relations, and whilst that doesn't matter in life, it does matter on this subredd…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:05 PM
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you had the choice of milk. Milk was not preferable to you, so you chose option 2. Why are you so hell-bent on minimizing your advantage? Are you always bragging how you're a 10/10 at 40 something yrs old?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:39 PM
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No it's not. If I ask you what you'd like to drink and there are 10 options, you didn't only have 1 option because you like Apple juice the best unless you wanna get into hard determinism, which would actually destroy your argument even worse. If you're on Tinder, and you have 4500 matches, and the guy has 20, you have 4480 more opportunities to find whatever the fuck you're looking for than he does regardless of whatever the fuck it is you're actually looking for. There is no debating this; thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:32 PM
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If you think those are men's conditions, you've never met a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:29 PM
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No personality trait is more gross in a woman than over-confidence in all it's forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:12 PM
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That's not how math works. You don't get to erase privileges because you don't partake in them. If it's 20 to 2, it's a 10x advantage. Besides, when it comes to incel bashing, you're like one of the local champions of "men just don't want those girls...they COULD get laid if they lowered their standards", and now you're trying to convince me that women's privilege isn't rrrreeeaaaaaaallllllyyyy privilege because she doesn't want it. U srs?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 09:09 PM
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That's not how logic works. If a woman has 20 matches she doesn't like and a man has 2, the woman has 10x the opportunity to meet someone she does, and thus 10x the privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:54 PM
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You are the undisputed jedi master of saying nothing whilst acting like you're saying the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:52 PM
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I don't think there is any reason, or desire on the RP side for women to admit their privilege... THe issue is that female's extreme privilege is a foundation for many of RP's beliefs and the people who attempt to attack or take on RedPill often times do not agree with this first premise. The ensuing discussion basically revolves around one party denying reality, and another party defending reality, not an attempt to force women to acknowledge their privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:49 PM
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Tucker Carlson is a blowhard talking mouth with no more integrity than any of the others on FOX news. O'Reilly, despite whatever allegations he got fired for, was actually at least willing to engage leftists like Stewart and admit SOME failings of the right/right wing thought. Listen to Carlson debate Bill Nye made my head hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:44 PM
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I really think Fox just wanted to unload him because he is old and his rantings are irrelevant now because he can't attack liberals in government any more. Not really. When this controversy hit, FOX execs originally tried to brush it under the table because Bill "made FOX so much money" in ratings so "what are ya'gonna'do shrugs". They fired him after it was clear this was like many multiples of women and the issue wasn't going to go away; the profit motive tipped against O'Reilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:40 PM
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Most of FOX New's anchors got to where they are because they were hot. Megyn Kelly basically said so herself in one interview, so in my opinion, if women are as you say "trading on their sex appeal to get ahead", then realistically, no, they have no right to complain about sexual harassment within reason. I still don't think that gives a man the right to walk up to her and grab her by the pussy or something, but if you dress like an object and market yourself like an object, you deserve and shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:37 PM
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I don't really feel the need to responde to all of that, I've made my point Not really, you've just made a set a incoherent virtue signals in the form of paragraphs. The problem I have is the underlying theories as well as the dogmatic claims that say this is how the world works and nothing else can exist. (For example: men should be dominant and women should be submissive, if you are not like this, you will end up unhappy.) Nowhere does TRP say this. TRP speaks in generalities. "You are less li…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 03:09 AM
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I'm operating from the premise that both genders are no angels, and that creating an ideology that focuses almost exclusively on shitting on women and explaining how they suck so much, while completely ignoring how men suck and even praising them for being the superior gender, is a pretty shit thing to do and will create a pretty shitty ideology that is rightfully hated by most people on the internet. Why would a MALE space focus on the manners in which men are shitty that do not affect them? Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 09:04 PM
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Many moderators, endorsed contributors and authors of the red pill are misogynists, and will even admit it. Misogyny is constantly present both in TRP's top posts as well as in comments. It might not be part of the theory, but it's correlated extremely strongly Yea...which I just explained. And it might be a bad sign that misogyny is a "take-away" from the information provided, why does the information provided lead its readers to dislike women, but not men? Are men really objectively that much …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 11:16 PM
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There's so much to take issue with, or just wrong in this paragraph it is going to be challenging to correct it all at once. First of all, RedPill doesn't demand you be a misogynist; it's just the most reasonable take-away from the information provided. A man can very obviously be "redpill" in behavior and still "like" women. Many "chads" do... If I believe in redistribution of wealth, single payer health care, and government oversight for corporations, I'm not not a socialist because I think Ka…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 10:42 PM
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One of those definitions is correct. The other is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 07:26 AM
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... do you think two traits that best describe alpha male cunt hounds are "caring and supportive"? Lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:24 PM
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What joke? It's not like women go banging on their doors asking for sex. . Nope, people choose each other mutually. For a woman to choose a a man the man must like her first, unless you think that the average man likes all women. This is a semantical argument that means nothing. That's like saying "in order for me to eat food, the food must first be edible". Adding to condition that the man has to like to women is first and foremost, not actually correct; lots of people settle, but secondly, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 08:41 PM
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Not even really. I mean first off, your first premise which you put forth as a joke is mostly how it works; the average man stumbles into relationships mostly by being chosen not by doing the choosing. Second, people doing other things doesn't mean sex isn't a number one priority because mating isn't a number one priority, it just means people don't think it'll be effective. Most average men don't think walking around a mall asking women for their numbers is going to result in much more than cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 09:53 PM
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Internalization of any skills or knowledge base only occurs with intensive repetition, and in this case, success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 02:00 AM
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I don't understand how you've come to this conclusion. If all men are only putting in 20% of their time to socializing, then all men are operating at an 80% deficiency and their results will all suffer exponentially. If you took even an ugly incel, and you made him do nothing with his life except pursue women from the ages of 16 to 35, I'm sure he'd break through the statistics and double, maybe even triple the 5 N count number, but that's a highly unrealistic effort expenditure. It's understood…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 09:08 AM
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It's more that modern cultural beliefs were formed and championed during the huge feminine shift our culture had with feminism, not that anyone discovered anything. It's more like people have to re-learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 09:01 AM
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I disagree. That's really more subjective. I have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of RP and PUA, and I still find it fairly difficult to actually do. Talking is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 09:00 AM
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There have always been two strains of RedPill. That you didn't know this is more a result of your willfull ignorance on the topics you speak about than of RedPill confusing their ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 08:58 AM
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You're understanding is fundamentally flawed in that you perceive life as an onion core, and RP as adding layers to the onion that are unnecessary. RedPill is the core. Modern culture adds the layers, and RedPill aims to cut through that and get back to the core truths. "Keeping frame" isn't a formula someone added because it's fun; it's the core manner in which respect is established between people. "Shit tests" isn't a formula someone added because it's fun; it's a primary manner in which wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 06:04 AM
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This is entirely sensible, even veering on the verge of being obvious. I'm astonished how much push-back you're getting even from "red pills"...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:58 AM
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That is a specific RedPill belief that he may not believe so your point isn't very well taken; it just looks good on a bumper sticker. Why can BP's not understand that RP and /r/TheRedPill are two different things...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:55 AM
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So really all you're saying is "chad isn't very nice"? We all knew that. Women adore assholes to the moon and back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:17 AM
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The minority you inferred in your previous reply and inferred again in this reply. The amount of people who have the power to have high N counts and partake in it vs the amount of people who have the power to have high N counts and don't partake in it cause the latter to be irrelevant. Most (nearly all) men who can fuck women of quality, regularly, are going to partake in that privilege. A 30 yo guy with a count of five (which is lower than average by the way) No it's not. The average N count in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 01:14 AM
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Whilst I don't think being a slut has any real consequences to the type of woman who doesn't care about it obviously, but I think being viewed as a slut absolutely does have social connotations that aren't exactly ideal for women looking for a quality relationship.... What man is going to want to be known as the guy who's LTR'ing the girl who gets ridden like a bike (and is probably cheating on him...)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 11:42 PM
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I have no clue where this came from or what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:16 AM
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I guess chimp chicks know how to have a better time than human chicks do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:32 AM
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And that's the problem with RP thought. This sounds logically and makes sense, but it has very little relation to reality. As usual it's not even well thought out. And just as most BluePillers, you're too preoccupied with evangelizing women to even comprehend the argument you're attempting to counter before speaking on it... Women don't actively seek high partner counts. Women sexual select for men with high partner counts because women sexually select for men of quality and men of quality are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 10:07 PM
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First of all, most people have a sort of "virgin" attraction. Virgins are automatically hotter simply because they have a sort of forbidden fruit thing going on. Innocence is a turn on for a lot of people. Newp. I disagree that that is realistic. I don't know where anybody would get this idea. It's an utter BluePill'ish myth. I would agree that men certainly find virginal women attractive; That's a bonus. But in my experience, in the experience of pretty much every man I've ever met and in the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:53 PM
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It's like all men are either Chads or Omegas/Incels. That's simply not the case. I never said that. I used "apex". A beta is perfectly capable of being apex. My point is, women are angling for high ranking males, and only associate with high ranking males. This belief you and other women tend to have that "no, women are totally assortative!" is false. You aren't. Beta is a very large spectrum, and it's really not Chads that are causing all the issues. Sure, some women chase Chad, but most of us …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:46 PM
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Making arguments for the radical minority always makes for bad arguments. No one cares about the chad who's N count is 0 because he's christian and god-fearing. We're talking about modern, sexually liberal young adults to 35yr olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:33 PM
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Those actually have more interesting conversation surrounding them than "do women prefer obesity?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 09:31 PM
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Reality doesn't really care what you think is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 05:09 AM
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Because a man's N count is directly proportional to his masculinity/quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:58 AM
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and in a mere 10 years, will be forgotten. No it won't. The app maybe, but Tinder has basically cemented the modern social dynamic/mindset of A) that looks are the only criteria of relevance, and anything intrinsic to the character or fiber of a person is no longer of any value, and B) that women have infinite power. This has significant ramifications towards the SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:21 AM
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but aren't men complicit in this, as well? No. Chads are complicit. Chads aren't really a relevant component of the SMP; it's women's behavior and elligibility towards them that is of value. If you give women infinite choice and near infinite power to express that choice which women currently possess, women can and will use the privilege, and view sexual relations outside their relative league as so normal that they believe their league is higher than it is. Eventually, you end up with the vast …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:15 AM
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N count obviously. More men can deal with a woman making more than them than can deal with a woman being a slut when they're not chad, and any woman who is a slut or has a higher N count wouldn't want a man who has a significantly lower n count anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:38 AM
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Whilst I would generally agree that humans are in no major way different from the more base australopithicans we came from, I do not think a tribe of 10 or 20 chimpanzee females have Tinder and can match with over 300 willing sexual options within an hour. Our sexual market place does have an effect on us and how we pick mates. Just because chimpanzee females often ended up mating with (not necessarily picking...) men that more closely resembled themselves, doesn't mean human women aren't kickin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:35 AM
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This is probably the single stupidest question I've ever seen posted to almost any subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:26 AM
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I don't think that's a worthwhile distinction. If women think a woman is unattractive, or less attractive than she actually is, what woman is going to pull a turn-around and go "oh, but she's totally a 10/10 to men". Not men. I'm sure many women can admit men find a woman attractive, but that's not saying anything; the women here at least seem to think being attractive enough to get men to fuck you is no biggy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 12:35 AM
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No, I'm saying this post is evidence that women don't understand what makes women attractive, and women's opinion of what makes women attractive is largely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 04:46 AM
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Not really. Men wanting to fuck them isn't going to make a man decide a 7 is a 10. It just means put her in front of me, and I'll gladly fuck her. The idea that "well women just don't have boner vision...", implies that women aren't as attractive as men think they are, which seems to suggest to me you think women have some kind of superior sense of what's "really" attractive, which doesn't make sense to me because that's like marking your own test paper and giving yourself a 100%. Either that, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 03:26 AM
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You can totally see where the female bias against various "types" of other women and various "looks" kicks in. I'd want to see these women rated by the average man not in the Pillsphere to see how these compare as I can almost guarantee the actual models women only gave 7, and 8s, would rank 10/10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 01:43 AM
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Yea pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:47 AM
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I don't think the pussification of men really has anything to do with having less sex so much as cultural shifts in women's free and open sexuality has allowed them to realize that even fat women have near infinite power to walk into a room, pick anyone and almost guarantee she can fuck him. Given that that is the currently reality of the SMP for women, the extreme drop in sex would have occured anyways. If a single person has that much power of choice and quality without having to offer anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:45 AM
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I mean, I don't currently own glue. It's always useful to have though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 10:44 PM
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AWALT It is a pragmatic approach. It is an observation that in specific situations a female will make a specific choice. It is based on the nature of humans doing what is most beneficial to them. Not really. It's that based on women's nature, one can assume, with pretty strong accuracy the future choices of women, regardless of their personal beliefs, rhetoric to the contrary, or prior actions because the belief is that at the end of the day, all women are pretty much carbon copies of each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 10:39 PM
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That's not what was stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 10:27 PM
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No, it's just not reasonable belief that they're actually happy. It goes against pretty much all logic and nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 10:12 PM
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I think you're actually projecting your own lovey-dovey bias on people in general (which is weird because you don't seem like a very compassionate person in general) But it can't really be denied that ugly people are undesirable by pretty much everyone. No one wants an ugly person. If a 2 could get a 7, they'd take the 7. I'd bet any sum of money that if that ugly couple was propositioned to leave their SO for another of significantly higher SMV, they'd do it. Being ok with your relegation to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 10:09 PM
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The trick is just being yourself harder, scrub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 09:35 PM
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You mean couples in which he is hideous, and she is hideous, and they've both accepted that their hideous and have no other option than to either be alone or accept their hideous SO? What exactly does that prove? RedPill men are aiming to not be in that position in the first place, and most people are not as hideous as them. This proves ugly, very low value people sometimes get together. We already knew this. Statistically, almost everyone gets a life partner...the problem is they get with peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:19 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:47 PM
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No... RedPill 101 is "women are stupid, fickle, barely-humans and as long as you're alpha, their brain turns off". Sex has almost nothing to do with that formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:04 AM

Aggressive periods are my bag baby. How much do you charge for that sort of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 09:03 AM
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ThatsWhereYou'reWrongKiddo.jpg.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:59 AM
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Bad argument. If getting girls is a function of value, it's a by-product of other successes in life, not a direct goal. Furthermore, halo effect is a thing. Attractive people who know how to be attractive go further in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:58 AM

I mean, I've seen some pics, for a callgirl, you're ass could use some work, lolol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:55 AM
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Why is that moot? That's actually logical. She will dump Chad who's bad at sex and find a Chad who's good at it. If we're talking about "Chad's". The entire question is weighed on a compromise. If women never have to compromise, there's no compromise... Also, not all Chad's hate women. Actually, not even majority does, in my experience. I think the fact that you think that is not even half as basic-sounding as the fact that you'd say that to someone wearing a TRP tag and expect to be taken serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:49 AM
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Bro, you gotta just respect women harder man. That's really your primary issue in life, dawggy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:44 AM

Lol, what an asenine position to be speaking from. First you chastise the guy for nothing getting what "his best" meant, then he says "maybe TRP's my best" and you insult him for his personal choice with what he wants to do with himself to be "his best". You've made yourself a walking parody of all BP within like 220 words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:41 AM
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Not really, no. If you use TRP's extreme hyperbole, a young woman can have sex with pretty much anyone she pleases, at will, whenever, where ever. It's only a matter of time to find someone both hot AND good at sex so the scenario is moot. If you take a more realistic view, the sexual partners who are invested in pleasing her are not the top men she's picking from, so A) women probably don't even know good sex, and B) women don't want the qualities that come with good sex; she'd prefer bad sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:37 AM
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Putting aside that hating women and sex have nothing to really do with each other, my first thought in reading this is....Who cares? They're the ones chicks are opting for because the eye candy and the chadly masculinity are worth the bad sex evidently; at least, to younger women who have time to resist settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:12 AM
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Your theory ignores two important factors. You did not account for your own bias. You sound like a man with more options than the average low beta and therefore... ..Most men don't have the option of just dating whomever they want when they want. They deal with the women in their vacinity who are options who are usually by virtue of the Smp not their direct equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 09:43 PM
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These girls are making MILLIONS doing nothing in life but working out, and getting pissed on. Since when is that "being an utter failure"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:28 AM
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Blue pill isn't a state of being or even an ideology. WRONG It's not a satire subreddit, nor was it created as one. It's an ideologically opposite hate cult to TRP's hate cult. It's no different than vast numbers of MRA's using "equality movement for men" as a cover for blatant misogyny. Some do just want equality. Most just hate chicks and want a hate cult. By being against red pill, you're automatically blue pill. (Or purple, if you're just indifferent.) WRONG You really don't know what you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:19 AM
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In our modern, feminist society, the idea that your number of partners somehow defines your 'goodness' is entirely disappearing. Maybe on Neptune. Not in western, developed nations on planet Earth. And it only ever existed because men pushed it. Not really. Even if that were the case, which I'd want evidence of and you've provided none, I would counter-argue that the only reason men would care is because women care, because your N count is directly translatable to your desirability (aka, goodnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 01:07 AM
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Are you suggesting that anyone who calls themselves a thing, is that thing? If so, I'm a strong feminist woman of asian decent who just escaped North Korea and knows better than anyone else the struggles of a hard life. Are you going to tell me I'm not?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:58 PM
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I was talking about the blue pillers on here. I'm blue pill and I have literally never said that all that stuff in your first graf. There are like 4 actual BluePills on here. Not a very good example. You're not even that BluePill. Generalizing the way some RPers do it: AWALT anytime anything ever confirms their beliefs, claiming outlier status or lying if it doesn't confirm their beliefs. You want people to only consider the best behaving minority of BluePill, but you counter argue using the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 12:05 AM
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Literally the entirety of all BP argumentation style boils down the declaration that it is impossible to generalize human behavior or sexuality, that all people are different, therefore RedPill is an impossibility based on misogyny and desperation fueled hatred towards women and oneself. This is not debatable. Almost all threads on /r/TheBluePill are that. "Degree" is not a scapegoat considering "generalization" is exactly that. "Generalizating to a degree" is not any different than simply sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 10:17 PM
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I never stated it was emotional. Oh honey, you're adorable when you try to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 10:11 PM
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I would argue there is not much difference to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 10:10 PM
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I have never met a woman in a happy relationship who didn't think her SO was the greatest, most infallible thing since QUEEN. Women only go for men they think are top tier, or at the very least above themselves. This is fact of life on Earth. I don't know what planet you came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 11:41 PM
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You mean like this? Such virtuous. So character. Totes emotion stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 11:34 PM
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Versus the bluepill method of argumentation of declaring generalities are non-existent because your cousin's roomate's uncle got a girlfriend whilst being unemployed for a week and kinda nice to her sometimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 08:11 PM
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It doesn't sound like she loves you bro, to be honest. Women are incapable of loving what they do not idolize.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 08:08 PM
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So, you're upset that RedPills watch what women do and judge that instead of listen to what women say, which is typically disingenuous and not just take it at face value...? This is like being mad at a bank because they didn't apply extra charges to your account without asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 08:02 PM

The same argument can be made for any of your posts seeing as you typically defend your opinions with only your anecdotal experience without accounting for your SMV. If we're going to get into the business of calling out low effort opinion pieces with no substantial evidence, you'd probably be amongst the first people winning that race to the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 07:58 PM
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This is scientifically illiterate. Any number of things greater than one can be generalized and anyone who fall into a specific group can be generalized. Infact, people are pretty good at it; we've evolved that ability for tens of thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 07:54 PM
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This is like a "we're going to Mars" level stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 07:50 PM
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To which I would suggest that if you actually believe that, you are out of touch with reality, or being incredibly solipsistic, ...or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 02:19 AM
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I would argue that women are getting the better end of the stick if you wanna make the (really bad) argument of "looks!", because not only do men have to look good, we have to dress well, and be talented, and have career prospects, and have other accouterments like an automobile and a lone apartment, and the hobbies and interests we do have, have to be only certain ones. Ie. women don't want dorks who paint model planes, they want athletes of some variety or the other. All that's asked of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:40 AM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:30 AM
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How enlightening...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:29 AM
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I'm sure women tend to be rough when it comes to policy because the only way a woman could take on male politicians and rise to the top is being more aggressive, vicious, conniving and unrepentant than the men they're opposing. That being said, Angela Merkel is a pretty weak politician. She may be gruff, which she is, but she's not a stone-heart, and she's a bad example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:25 AM
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The average man does not have enough options running around to be particularly descriminating when "I like the way she looks" and "she's nice to me" are both met.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:13 AM
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In my experience, it's really only a women's issue. Men don't seem to care much whether a woman has similar interests or goals, so long as she's attractive to him. Women, on the other hand, seem not to care about pretty much anything immaterial so long as she's adequately attracted, even common values. It's pretty obvious that women are more than willing to hamster away a man, say, cheating on his wife to be with her, even if she herself despises cheated and would never do it herself and would o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:35 PM
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I do not believe porn has anywhere near the affect women tend to seem to think it does. It most certainly doesn't have more impact on any given person's social life or skills than their actual social life and skills, ie. a socially successful person who consumes porn daily isn't going to be some fucked up wacko only because he consumes porn and would otherwise have been normal and vice versa. I'd also point out that /u/LewisCross is wrong. Porn has had no impact whatsoever on sexual initiation. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:15 AM
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Because most people prefer being happy to being unfulfilled. Why would losing ever be preferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:24 AM
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Why would men adopt a losing strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:27 AM
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This concept always reminds me of the old Louis CK skit where he talks about how ridiculous women's rape fantasies are, as if a guy is going to know how and when she wants to be "raped", as if any guy would risk attempting to "rape" a woman anyways. This concept raises too many questions in regards to which men she wants to dominate her? When does she want to be dominated? Surely there are men she wouldn't respect even if they tried. Surely there are men who couldn't dominate her and would lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 01:26 AM
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I think this subreddit has reached a point where almost everyone in the house has semi-analagous beliefs on anything that actually matters and there are only maybe 4 or 5 genuine BluePill posters who still disagree with the blueprints, whilst everyone else argues over a leaky faucet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:50 AM
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This post is mostly unintelligible, but from what I picked out... No man can know what it's like to have a women's sex drive and attraction mechanisms. Is that not the point why they made TRP? So that they figure out how it works in theory? In total, (and this is a philosophical issue) if you say there are genetic differences between people, then it would be extremely unlikely that two people experience the world in the exact same way. Therefore, you can't compare them without taking this into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:44 AM
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Wonderfully well written post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 12:38 AM
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Who cares? Do what you want. This is like asking a forum if it's ok that you like green jellO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:33 PM
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Almost nothing you've said here is really true at all. Or at least, it's only true for a specific kind of man in a specific kind of environment. Your write up would make sense if the only men you targetted this in regards to were very attractive New York business school graduates, whos family owns a golf club in New England or something but men in general? Certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 11:26 PM
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Ugh, no I'm not. I'm removing all attachment. It would be you who is saying that because it was you who's argument was that civilizations that come after previous civilizations are necessarily morally superior... You're arguing against your own argument and claiming it's mine... YOU~ Or current society replaced all the patriarchical ones, therefore it is the superior society. Unless you don't believe in evolution and natural selection. And there is a reason civilization evolved out of those soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/17 06:35 AM
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It's not pedantic, it's the entire difference between claiming every concurrent civilization is morally superior to the last, and the belief that morals and ethics are independent aren't causally dependant on time. Civilizations being subject to natural selection isn't the question. Like I said, the USA could fail natural selection, get themselves whipped out or conquered by the Soviet Union, and now by your logic Soviet ethics is morally superior to western ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 08:39 PM
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Our civilization didnt replace other societies, they died and gave rise to other ones. Our civilization could get nuked to death tomorrow, be replaced with a new country in 1000 years that believes in everything we find morally in bad judgement and via your logic, they'd be morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:21 PM
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I disagree. I actually see mostly gays as the main advocates of SJW'ism who actually are committed to it beyond lip service. I've gotten in fiery debates with male gays about women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 10:53 PM
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To add to this list: Blue pillers also fall into the thinking that absent a crystal-clear, peer-reviewed, double-blind study that's been repeated dozens of times one cannot and should not draw any actionable conclusions. It's either ironclad proof or nothing. That's great if you're building a spaceship, not so great if you're trying to immediately figure out how to improve your life. Yup, that's kind of what I was getting at. The idea that nothing can be known without a guy in a laboratory apron…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:19 PM
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That's not a similar situation/dichotomy. I'm unsure how you got from ignoring facts to cheating. There are pretty well understood and studied gendered difference between women and men in regards to infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:17 PM
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No actually. you don't know how debate works. It's the job of anyone making a claim to provide a support for it. If RedPill says she's inferior, and she says she's equal, both have a burden of proof to each other. The only time someone doesn't have a burden of proof is if they hold no conclusive position one way or the other, and their opponent is making the claim. In any case, it's not even a matter of debate, it's a matter of existentialism; if she thinks she's equal, good for her. But, if as …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:14 PM
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Honestly, the main thing I've gotten from reading this sub is that TRP really does think that women are strange aliens and not human at all Calling women "humans" doesn't really get you anything or anywhere. You are no closer to understanding any of the issues at play by calling women humans, nor are you any closer to any kind of enlightenment or success. The most vile and unrepentant child rapist is also "human", and most men likely share little to no similarities with a person who's life revol…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:40 AM
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Your argument's major flaw is you're scolding redpills for ignoring studies/facts as if they're the only ones, and as if it's a pill issue when it's really a human issue. I've been debating people on Reddit for a very long time and I don't think i've ever encountered another human being, liberal, conservative, feminist, BluePill, RedPill, or otherwise, who when faced with evidence that disagrees with their opinion, simply accepted they were wrong and walked away. Also, a major problem with bluep…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:28 AM
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Being here has really hit home that there is a good population of men who think I ( not me personally of course ) am worse than shit and contribute nothing and just drain society and it is a huge waste of time to try convince/persuade/prove I and women are worth their time or that we aren't stupid "pod" beings who are an inch above sheep and I just accept that is how things are. The irony being that if you cannot disprove them, how is anyone except yourself to believe it isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:10 AM
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It is generally considered shallow to date anyone for only a single transient or inconsequential quality, ie. looks, money, property, job, education, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 01:05 AM
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I noticed that Red Pillers tend to glamourise an exaggerated/extremised version of liberal capitalist American society, yet this sort of society would be shit to live in for everybody but the top 10%. RedPills fucking hate liberal society. I think you meant conservative. To which I'd say RP's are only concerned with liberalism and conservatism in so far as they don't want laws and statutes enacted that make it law that everyone has to sign a contract before having sex or else it's always rape an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 12:23 AM
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The men didn't fight the animals bare-handed. Women are suited to hunting, but the constant pregnancies are the reason why they usually did not. The bush tribes of Africa did it half/half and were very successful with that strategy. Unless the weapon is a firearm, a weapon does not eliminate the physical power required to wield it. Furthermore, almost all wild animals that pose a threat to humans have over twice, or more the tolerance for pain as humans do so there is really no way you can claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 11:16 PM
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That's not the word on the street I hear. When I joined, they were all l like "watch out for that Mongrel chick. She's a mongrel for the cock..."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:24 PM
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I don't know. I don't know you. I think you're promiscuous given my previous post, and I obviously defend the idea that promiscuity breeds bad-character females. That's all that can be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:12 AM
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I didn't know I had a stalker. That's kinda hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:10 AM
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We've never spoken before. What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 03:29 AM
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You're blue as balls in a strip club from what I've seen, but I'll pay closer attention in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:36 AM
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You've been here for like 40years (/s) and you're as insanely blue as the day you got here. Nothing is convincing you one way or another. Most of the people who hang here only do so because they enjoy brow beating each other. Which is cool, I mean, it's a skill one should be good at dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 11:13 PM
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And we've hit the critical point in debating a BluePiller in which they can offer no sensible counter-argument so they opt for personal attacks instead. Thank you for playing. Tune in next time for another exciting episode of LET'S DEBATE A BLUEPILLER! [theme song plays]
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 01:17 AM
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I'm pretty that if some toy company made a pink dinosaur with oversized kawaii eyes and big eyelashes, it could be successfully marketed to girls, and if they made a black robotised pony, they could successfully market it to boys too. I think this comes full circle to supporting my point. In order to appeal to girls, it has to emulate infantalism and in order to appeal to boys, you have to emulate somekind of battle robot warsteed or something. Funny because those "select African tribes" are liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 01:15 AM
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I think anyone who's left their house, ever, can pretty much agree women want attractive men. Attractive men tend to have high N counts because they can and spoiled people are generally less virtuous than people that have harder lives. This is as obvious as the sky being blue. The weight of the argument is really on BluePillers to demonstrate that women would rather have nice guys than "chads". Even in your previous post the idea that "women want a man who's more experienced than them, but not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:57 AM
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Almost as convincing as you're reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:52 AM
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You're right, you're 2 examples of men who were terrible people and also only put their wiener in 4 vaginas is living proof that the other 330,000,000 north americans must be the same. What about "general" do you BluePills not get? I'm sure there are millions of great people who have 1000000 N count. That's not the point. Ultimately, this is not something you can logic away. It's viscerally disgusting, same as a 4ft tall man is to women. But as far as logical reasoning goes, high(er) N count peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:51 AM
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?? Good for you? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:45 AM
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Women do not have to stay at home and raise children. It has nothing to do with that women have to do, it's about what women and men are best suited to do. Men are not best suited to nurture children because 100 reasons to do with biology, and testosterone and blah blah blah. Women are not best suited to go hunt wild, dangerous animals because 80% of woman are only half as strong as 80% of men, and women make bad civilization-leaders in times of strife and turmoil of the old days because (insert…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:43 AM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 05:42 AM
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I'm more and more convinced everyday that at least 45% of BluePill'ism is an inability to critically think or read and correctly interpret written passages... You are basically saying "risk taking people have higher n-counts therefore everyone that has a high n-count must be risk taking" No because the word "generally" was used which implies an accounting for variance and exceptions. Furthermore, "risk taking people have higher n-counts therefore everyone that has a high n-count must be risk tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:48 AM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:34 AM
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I'm aware what the CC fallacy is and how it's used. You're both just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:58 AM
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I said generally, and a douchebro who gets laid like a rockstar is an infinitely more enjoyable and beneficial lifestyle than a Nice Guy who's in the never-touched-a-boobie-club. That being said, for men it works differently a bit, as women voluntarily sexually select for the douchebro thing, vs men who are more or less just kinda forced to deal with it if they want an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:55 AM
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If people fucking a lot of people is correlated to people being undesirable life partners, you've still proved my point in #3 whether you disagree with #2 or not. if more members of a group are like X that this means that all members of this group are also more like X. That's just basic logic That was never stated. I agree entirely. I've met people who were total sluts who are great humans. Do you have anything better than this attempt because this has thus far proven unimpressive. The confident…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:52 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:48 AM
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Women ARE doing the survival and civilisation building jobs. By ensuring that the next generation survives and is healthy, and by generally civilising. No, that's racial continuance. Women make children; they're people factories. That's not synonymous with inventing the steam train. But yes, women do the bulk of the caretaking. Which largely gets them nowhere as it's not appreciated nor respected and doesn't attract a high pay You kidding brah? Until Bill Burr's absolutely iconic performance on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:10 AM
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What do you consider a high N-count 10+ what is your reasoning? Life, statistics, and critical thinking skills suggest this is a high number. What actions add another number to N-count? Any sexual interaction in which genitalia are intentionally pleasured. Why do you personally have an aversion/negative view high N-count woman and what is your reasoning? Three reasons. (1) It's naturally disgusting, no different than not wanting to come in contact with your own feces. (2) It's been scientificall…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 01:01 AM
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Youre not contradicting my point. Furthermore, toil is contextual. Could just as easily be war as it is hunting game. Point is women caretake generally and men do the survival and civilization building jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:28 AM
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Sure, it does happen. I'm only attacking the idea that 80/20 is obviously wrong because high value people don't fuck low value people, which is basically non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:42 PM
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Oh, I see. In that case, I'm in total agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:38 PM
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Having a 2 chase you doesn't mean you'd fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 07:08 PM
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Your comment doesn't make sense to me. You appear to be suggesting "you shouldn't pay attention to issues relevant to your life even if you can't ignore them."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 07:05 PM
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I would argue pretty much all of it is inbuilt. If you're ever around children, even children who are antisocial or have had little input from outside "nurture" and/or had parents that pushed neither one aspect nor another, they still tend to fall on gendered lines. The boys still like dinosaurs and super heroes and the girls still like My Little Pony. It couldn't possibly be coincidence or "social programming" that every civilization on earth (except select African tribes) pits women as the chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 07:01 PM
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As much as I hate to give bluepiller's credit, this is a super bad argument. One sucker on YouTube who got shafted by his conniving wife doesn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:36 AM
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Coersion via a business proposition is not the same thing as someone voluntarily having sex with you because you have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 10:57 PM
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You're mistaking pointed statements for their personal intent. They may want "a hole and any whole will do" but they don't want the hole to poke on. They want the hole to like them. Ie., It would be flattering and self assuring if a woman took interest in them sexually. Even a fat woman wanting to fuck them would be something. Other than that, it's rhetoric. if that's not true and not what they want people to think, maybe they should stop spewing so much bullshit. It's interesting that this is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 11:44 PM
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