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Pretty much this. I will straight up ask my boyfriend for dick pics, or at least I did when we were long distance. But I’m more or less repelled by the sight of someone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:57 PM
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Yeah I try really hard not to think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:41 PM
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Idk their presence in porn just turns me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:05 PM
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I prefer porn with no dicks. Dicks ruin porn for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:58 PM
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It was painful and somewhat traumatic. The guy was also sexually and emotionally abusive and if I could murder someone without ever having to worry about consequences, he would be high on that list. Hatred doesn’t even begin to cover it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 03:51 PM
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Both people. They presumably both made the choice to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:35 PM
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I can accept criticism just fine. But it’s been my experience that men who talk about women the way you do invariably wind up being shitty partners. I can assure you that my boyfriend does not find me difficult to be with. We have healthy and open communication with one another and he doesn’t act like a misogynistic twat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:06 PM
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Funny because the way you talk about women is a glaring red flag to me. I’ve been avoiding men who talk like you do about women for the last 20+ years and it’s served me very well. Btw, acknowledging the damage that patriarchy causes is important because a lot of people have internalized those messages and is at the root of many of those problems people have. You can’t start to change your thought patterns without dismantling the ones that are already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:25 PM
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I don’t think you realize just how much and it how many ways patriarchy and misogyny harms society. Probably because you’re contributing to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:03 PM
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You actually are being misogynistic. And yeah misogyny has a lot to do with it. I was raised in a patriarchal abusive religious environment and it fucked me up bad and set me up to wind up with someone who would abuse me. I spent 15 years in therapy undoing the damage, and I learned how to recognize when someone is trying to manipulate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:36 PM
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Oh I know how I got there. I got there by being mistreated for my entire childhood and learning to equate mistreatment with love. And I’m most definitely not sobbing. It’s been over 20 years since I left that fuckstick and he’s only halfway through his prison sentence. I’m with someone now who treats me wonderfully, and I’m doing just fine. Unlike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:01 PM
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I mean. That’s kind of how it happened for me. I wasn’t a virgin because I’m very sexually aggressive, but it was very very hard to find someone who didn’t just want to hook up. I didn’t meet my bf until I was 46 though. I never expected us to be anything more than friends, but we wound up being really mutually attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:36 PM
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lol no. Women tell men that when their shitty personally is evident from their words. There might be other reasons for it too, but they’re not helping themselves at all by having a blatantly misogynistic attitude. I have also never seen women tell other women to “go for it” in terms of having a baby with someone they barely know. Have you even been reading the replies to this thread? You’re so full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:53 PM
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I love how this sub continually reinforces my decision to put zero trust in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:14 PM
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How do you figure I learned nothing? First of all, I wasn’t “blinded by lust”. I got pregnant by someone I hooked up with a couple of times and had zero self esteem and thought I would never find anyone else willing to be with me. Abusers are attracted to that shit like catnip. Also, why do you think women don’t warn each other about things like that? I’ve never once heard a woman say or imply that “women can always detect if a man is abusive”. What I have heard women say is that if anything fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:12 PM
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I was 19 years old when I began dating my first husband and fresh out of a very physically and emotionally abusive childhood. It would be fair to say that my perception of what is normal and healthy was beyond fucked up at the time. I haven’t been with someone who was abusive since then, and it’s been over two decades since we split up. My ability to sus out if someone is abusive/manipulative isn’t by virtue of me being female. It’s learned from experience. Doesn’t seem like you’ve learned very …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:52 AM
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Not really. My grandmother never worked outside the home and was constantly depressed. My other grandma had a job and was a lot happier. My mom had all kinds of mental health issues until my youngest sibling moved out and she got a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 08:33 PM
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I had Adenomyosis which causes secondary infertility. I never got pregnant again after that and had already had several miscarriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:52 PM
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Still want to A) earn it myself, B) not be dependent on someone else for that and C) I actually like working. I like having a job. I have wanted to work outside the home since I was a kid. I never saw myself staying home with kids, even though my mom did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:14 PM
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lol no. I had friends. I still hated it. 100% unpaid work with total dependency on my partner for any and all income? Fuck no. I was so damn happy to go back to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:10 PM
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Except it didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:51 PM
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Except I didn’t know that he was until years after it was too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:49 PM
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It’s not really an issue of the relationship working out or not. Sometimes the other parent is an absolute garbage person, and your ability to legally keep your child away from them is limited, especially if you don’t have a lot of money for an attorney.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:34 PM
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I fucking hated being a stay at home mother
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:27 PM
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When men do all of that stuff plus work a full time job, we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:20 PM
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Housekeeping, chores, and taking care of children is all unpaid work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:44 PM
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20
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:42 PM
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Yes it was an unintentional pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:37 PM
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I had a child with someone who was not “my ideal” and I strongly regret doing so. It was pretty much my only chance to have a child, but if I had it to do over again, I wouldn’t have done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:30 PM
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That’s what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:12 AM
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Attraction doesn’t happen in a vacuum though. It’s very much impacted by cultural norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:51 PM
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Yeah, what? I don’t date anyone whom I feel like I have to “defy” in order to do what I want. I feel like I’m missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:51 PM
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Even if it doesn’t lead to any changes in your attraction, people could at least be honest with themselves about the fact that beauty/attractiveness standards in the media highly favor people with more Caucasian features, even when they are non-white and that being bombarded with a lifetime of those messages about who is and isn’t attractive plays a role in the way our own attraction develops. The root of that is bigotry. Even if you yourself did not cause it or want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:09 AM
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Like I said, conversion therapy doesn’t work. I didn’t have to convince myself to be attracted to to anyone. I only had to realize that my reasons for not being attracted to certain people were shallow and arbitrary. The change happened on its own after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:59 AM
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No? It’s not irrelevant. One of them can change. The other cannot. I used to think I couldn’t be attracted to any guy who wasn’t taller than me. Until I started to really think about why I cared about that and I realized that it had more to do with worrying about what other people might think than anything else. That wasn’t something that was happening consciously. But understanding why it was happening allowed that bias to change. Neuro plasticity is a thing. It just doesn’t work for changing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:53 AM
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Sexual orientation is something you are born with. There is nothing similar about not finding anyone of certain races attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:43 AM
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I never said that you could police attraction. And while I recognize that it’s often not a conscious choice as to you you are and are not attracted to, that doesn’t mean that bigotry cannot play a role. You have not explained to me how it is possible to not be attracted to a single person of a certain race without bigotry being a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:49 AM
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Cool explain how it’s not bigotry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:46 AM
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Not being attracted to anyone outside of a single race has bigotry behind it. You will absolutely not convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:37 AM
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That isn’t at all what I said, but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:34 AM
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It’s bigotry to say that you are ONLY attracted to white people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:09 PM
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It’s very equivalent given nobody has any choice about what race they are or what their sexual orientation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:02 PM
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Do you think it “should be disclosed” if someone is non-white?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:54 PM
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I don’t feel like that’s something they should feel required to put all on the table before the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:09 PM
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Sure you can, but it’s still bigotry. Just because someone doesn’t immediately tell you they are bi doesn’t mean they’re “hiding it from you” either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:58 PM
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No but if you are attracted to someone until you find out they’re non-white that is racist, and that would be the equivalent to what OP is discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:23 PM
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Sometimes people look white but aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:12 PM
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Not particularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:47 PM
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Would it be racist to be white and only be willing to date white people? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:07 PM
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Umm, yes? If that’s the only reason why then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:02 PM
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It’s not uncommon for straight men or lesbians to not want to date bi women as well. And yes, it’s biphobia. Regardless of who it’s coming from. It’s not entitled to want people to be honest about where their preferences are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:55 PM
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You’re allowed to have whatever preferences you want, but it is homophobia to not want to date someone for only that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:38 PM
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Yes, when I ask a guy out I pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:01 AM
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Im hypersexual as a comorbidity of other medical conditions. It’s compulsive behavior, and I also have a much stronger desire. It’s gotten me in some really terrible situations before. Scary, dangerous and physically painful situations. Even when it’s bad enough for me to be seeking out sex with strangers, the way many men have talked to me and treated me is absolutely repellent. Luckily I’m older now and my sex drive is still very high but also manageable. I strongly prefer sex within a committ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:54 PM

Until men are doing 90% of the parenting there is no way to produce accurate data on how many men would be murdering their children if they were effectively forced to care for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:07 PM

I explained this in my last comment, but most men don’t want to be the primary caregiver to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:52 PM

The data is never going to show an accurate representation of how many men would be neglectful if they were full time parents because men are so rarely full time parents unless that is the best available option. Men generally don’t WANT full custody of their kids. Men don’t WANT the responsibility of being a primary caretaker. If they want that, they’re more likely to take that role seriously. Far more women are getting stuck with childcare by default because if the father doesn’t want that duty…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:50 PM

Many of the women who have had similar experiences are on this very sub. I’m tired of getting a crap ton of upvotes on my comments and then seeing men say “but you’re the raaaaaare exception!”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:21 PM

lol no? Proximity and opportunity have a lot to do with these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:19 PM

Same. The exception is if my partner in some way causes me to feel shame over my needs or desires, which has unfortunately happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:21 PM
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That didn’t clear anything up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:58 PM
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No idea what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:11 PM

I never posted anything to social media until my boyfriend moved in with me. It’s basically only so his family another state over can “see” him and know that I haven’t enslaved him or something. I know his parents and sister miss him terribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:02 PM
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Yes on the dates, but I need hugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:48 AM
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We knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:47 AM
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I miss when my bf first moved in with me and didn’t have a job. I told him he didn’t have to get one if he didn’t want to, but he prefers to be working. He also didn’t love having most of the errands and domestic duties falling on him. Which I can’t say I blame him for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:41 AM
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OP says “no bed or roof that isn’t entirely your own” meaning that if you live together you would have to pay all of the rent or mortgage yourself in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:35 AM
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Yes I would still date men. I won’t even get pregnant now, so nothing would change there (couldn’t do so even if I wanted to, I got surgically sterilized when I was 27 and had the whole thing removed in 2020. I currently pay for stuff as often as my bf does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:29 AM

No, I don’t even know what that means. I work in disability services.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:25 AM
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I’m very used to being called a liar here by men. Nothing new for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:25 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:17 AM
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Oh yeah we have one of those, but he can’t feel it so much as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:16 AM
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Sweet! Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:14 AM

I mean neglectful deadbeat fathers aren’t uncommon. If fathers did the amount of parenting that mothers do, those percentages would look quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:13 AM

I am not and have never been a sex worker. wtf are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:10 AM
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Majority aren’t really in a big hurry to marry the first guy who comes around and pop out a few kids either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:22 AM
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I make twice what my boyfriend does
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:21 AM
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You say that like it’s not living the dream. I had a child who is grown now when I was young and I’m fully enjoying my freedom. I’m absolutely grateful that I’m not tethered to my kid’s piece of shit father anymore and that I had the freedom to pursue relationships that were healthy instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:16 AM
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Do we though?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:13 AM
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Couldn’t be me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:52 AM
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Why would I do that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:34 AM
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I’m a female breadwinner and my boyfriend calls me daddy. So that was particularly humorous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:20 AM
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Cool, tell my boyfriend that. He’s been pretty heavily invested since day one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:19 AM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:12 AM
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Yeah, maybe I don’t actually want to sell my body to the highest bidder and use my sexuality as a bargaining chip?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:52 AM
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Tell me more about these vibrators for penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:47 PM
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Of course. I’ve gone shopping for them with him. He mostly has dildos and stuff for anal play, but he has talked about getting some “crafted for male genitalia” and I’m all for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:14 PM
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I can more readily forgive high school aged kids for doing immature things regardless of gender. The negative comments I have gotten from men were not high school kids in most cases. Men generally don’t post content about their icks so much. Instead they comment on people’s photos or videos on social media with absolutely no provocation. I follow a lot of plus sized and non gender conforming women on social media, and these fuckwits just CANNOT keep their thoughts inside their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:38 PM
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Dude I have had men directly tell me that they are not interested in me because I embody one of their “icks”, often when I haven’t even expressed any interest in them in the first place. And there’s usually a very judgmental tone about it. This has been a thing that has been happening to me my entire life and I’m solidly middle aged. If I had a dollar for every time a man felt the need to make unsolicited comments to me about women with tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, having a kid, various clothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:21 PM
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That’s the thing. I don’t. I quietly move as far away as possible and leave if I’m able to. I don’t make it someone else’s problem. I’m not making judgments about anyone’s character. I don’t feel the need to proclaim my stance on it publicly. It’s just an incompatibility for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:06 PM
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It’s not just in the context of dating. I have moved to the opposite end of the bus before because a passenger was chewing gum. I have a legit phobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:23 PM
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You would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:06 PM
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You know what? I don’t go around expressing my extreme distaste for gum chewers outside of using it as an example for this thread. You could try the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:36 PM

Such as? I gave almost anyone who was interested a chance, so I feel like it was a pretty accurate cross section of average to below average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:35 PM

The common denominator is that they were all cisgendered males between the ages of 20 and 50. Generally speaking I have spent a decent amount of time beforehand talking about likes and dislikes, and they talk a big game about being really into those things, only to disappoint me greatly in person. I ended the conversation at any hint of selfishness or attempts at manipulation before anything sexual has occurred. The more physically attractive they are, the more they suck in bed, so I learned to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:31 PM

Oh no, most of the men I have been with didn’t care about my pleasure at all. By most I mean more than half.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:16 PM

I’ve expanded my horizons plenty. There are just a lot of sexually selfish men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:07 PM

Ok, yeah to be honest I’ve met more men who are like this than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:05 PM
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Yeah what you are describing is kind of on par with men who feel the need to talk loudly about attributes in women that he himself does not find attractive, as though women who have those attributes should all just change themselves to be attractive to him. It’s stupid and eye-roll-worthy in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:04 PM
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Yeah I’m sure he was the only shit father in existence. 🙄 Weird how many women I have met with similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:00 PM

Oh yeah this isn’t circle jerk bait at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:36 PM

What projected transgressions are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:23 PM

Good question. I know that for me it is often a compulsion to have sex so I wasn’t necessarily vetting them super well. At least not when my sex drive was at its highest. Since I’ve gotten older I’m much more willing to hold out for someone who makes it worth my time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:18 PM

I’ve experienced both. I’ve been with a guy who only wanted to make me orgasm because he liked it. It was a turn on for him and he also tried to use that to have some kind of power over me. Physically it felt good but emotionally it felt shitty and I had no regrets about cutting him loose. Contrast that with my bf who does get very turned on by making me orgasm, but with him it’s less about just getting that physiological response and more about really wanting me to feel good. There’s no hint of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:12 PM

Then what’s your confusion about what constitutes real pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:04 PM
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You don’t know the half of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:03 PM

Let’s say for example that someone shoved their fingers in your ass without your consent and your body had a physiological response to that and you got an erection. Would that be real pleasure? Is the fact that you got an erection in that scenario proof that you were enjoying it and wanted it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:58 PM

I understand the distinction that you’re talking about. Ideally you’ll have a situation where it’s both. My bf gets extremely turned on by giving me orgasms, but he also makes sure that I’m enjoying it too, and I feel the same about him. It took me a very long time to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:53 PM
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Not uncommon at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:51 PM

You’ve been lucky. I would say that only about 10% of my past sexual partners were memorable in any positive way, and I’ve had close to the same number of partners that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:47 PM

There are men out there that really care about their partner’s pleasure and are genuinely attracted to their partner even if she doesn’t look like an IG model, but I have personally found it to not be the norm. It 100% worth holding out for. Don’t commit to anyone who isn’t giving you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:45 PM

Wrong. If a guy is ONS material it because either the sex was boring and not good, or he has issues that make him unsuitable for a long term relationship, or both. The vast majority of men I have had sex with I had zero desire to lock down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:38 PM
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Based on the sheer volume of housework and childcare I had to attend to the minute I got home when my child’s father was SAH, probably not. I would often come home to the house being in significantly worse condition than I had left it, and he would be playing games on his computer, oblivious to what our child needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:30 PM
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My family members actually watched my child and attended to her needs. Her father did not. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:24 PM
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Yeah same, all the dildos in my home belong to my bf and I have never used them on myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:17 PM
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Like a brother, one might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:40 PM
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Your definition is completely off base. I have mostly seen it referred to as something that just turns you off without there being anything serious behind it. I don’t date people who chew gum. I find it to be revolting. That doesn’t mean they are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:21 PM
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Yeah same. I love that my bf is cute, and small, and soft. I love that he wears my clothes. I love that he has pretty eyes and a soft voice. I want to protect him at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:16 PM
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And there are also a very wide variety of sizes because different people want different sizes. Ultimately the average doesn’t really matter all that much. A size that would be too small for one person might be too big for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:08 PM
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Because I want to be able to bottom out when I use a strap on? Because people have preferences for different girths?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:42 PM
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I don’t use penetrative toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:39 AM
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What are you five years old? You clean it out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:28 AM
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That tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:34 PM
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I’m not talking about women. In fact I didn’t bring them up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:05 PM
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No, I had a whole comment I was gonna type up but then decided it wasn’t worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:08 AM
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I’d elaborate on that, but frankly I don’t care enough about your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:16 AM
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lol, you’re so delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:49 AM
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Umm, you just said that people who were critical of the idea of having a SAHD were not people who were actually interested in having one. I’m critical because I’ve been there, done that, and lucky my child is still alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:47 AM
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My daughter learned how to make bread when she was like 12 because there was nothing else to eat in the house. ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:07 AM
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Yep, and his odds of finding an anti-feminist or even non-feminist woman who is all cool with that are slim to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:02 AM
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Oh yeah, it got worse after we split up and I couldn’t keep an eye on things anymore. At least at that point she was able to somewhat fend for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:56 AM
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My daughter’s dad stayed at home with her while I worked for a while. It was an absolute disaster. I had to quit my job because it was bordering on neglect, and I still had to do all the cooking and cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:03 AM
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I think this likely accounts from some of the disparity. But not the majority. There is also the issue of the woman considering herself to be in a relationship while the man does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:29 PM
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I’m much older now and I’m still dating a man who fits that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:43 PM
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I get it, but everyone’s different. I dated plenty of guys my age when I was 25 and didn’t care if they were “established”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:16 PM
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I don’t agree but you are certainly entitled to wait if you prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:08 PM
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You could certainly date someone your age who also wants kids someday. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:06 PM
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Most of us are not looking for a relationship with an expiration date. If you are going to want kids someday then you’re not a good option for a woman who wants to remain child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:01 PM
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Tbf I doubt they would have been interested in me if I had never approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:42 PM
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“I’m not saying to marry a bum just because he doesn’t want kids. But maybe a younger guy who didn’t go to college and doesn’t make as much money but is still disciplined with money, health, etc” What am I misinterpreting? These guys mostly want kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:41 PM
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Your odds are not any better with a so-called “lower value male”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:33 PM
1

I lived in Seattle for most incidents and San Francisco for one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:22 PM
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Men that are emotionally immature, not very smart, and low income want kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:19 PM
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No idea but I never would have approached them because if uglier guys rejected me then why would I expect different results with a more attractive guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:47 PM
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Dozens
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:46 PM
1

My experience has been otherwise. There have been MANY times that I was harassed in public with plenty of people right there who did nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:46 PM
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Regardless, you’re putting an awful lot of faith I strangers to intervene when most people really aren’t interested in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:30 PM
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Plenty. Enough to know that it wasn’t worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:29 PM
1

These were men who approached me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:18 PM
2

Nah, I was as average as they come when I did the majority of my approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:16 PM
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You really think I have any control over where men harass me? This was in a large city.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:15 PM
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Maybe for attractive neurotypical women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:05 PM
1

Bus stops and just out walking down the sidewalk in broad daylight with plenty of other people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:03 PM
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Because that has been the case for me a hundred percent of the time I have done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:45 PM
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Yet it has worked out for me many times over when the man shows interest first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:41 PM
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lol no, I had to act like a psycho to get them to leave me alone while people just fucking stared.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:40 PM
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Who cares if a guy who isn’t interested in me is impressed? Seriously? Even if it does, it just makes things awkward between us after he rejects me. Well yes, but again, if he’s not attracted to her (which has been my experience every single time) then it’s still a net loss. Yeah I used to think that too. Turns out they just didn’t like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:38 PM
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lol I have had men follow me yelling at me for rejecting them in broad daylight with plenty of people around who said and did nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:36 PM
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I’m not even talking about cold approaching in my case. I don’t do that because I need to know something about a man’s personality before I have any interest in him. But regardless, I have seen no benefits from being the one to approach or show obvious interest first. And I have done it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:33 PM
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It’s only a benefit of the men I approach are receptive. Historically they have not been. And I don’t have any reason to believe that it’s because I’ve been aiming out of my league either. The men I have approached had multiple physical features that both men and women agree are less attractive (bald, fat, short, disharmonious facial features, neurodivergent). Conversely, the men who have shown interest in me first are significantly better looking. And no, they’re not just pumping and dumping me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:28 PM
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Not in my experience. I wasn’t even really all that ugly when I did most of my approaching. I was pretty solidly average at that point in my life. And I approached below average men almost exclusively because I prefer not subject myself to humiliating rejection as a rule. I still got rejected constantly. Though they at least seemed to feel bad about it. Conversely the men who approached me were significantly more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:07 PM

The number of upvotes my comment has would indicate that this meme is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:42 PM
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I’m 47 and have been making the first moves since I was 12. It has never actually panned out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:31 PM
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Yeah I agree that women rarely cold approach. I’m just saying why I don’t do it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:17 PM
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I have no problems with approaching but even I don’t cold approach ever. I need to know more about a man than what he looks like to be interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:14 PM
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I’m not a big fan of it in general. I like small doughy guys with pretty eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:44 PM
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I would honestly have been happy with anything. My boyfriend finishes quickly a lot of the time and it’s not an issue for me at all. I’m just happy that he actually wants to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:32 PM
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Yeah maybe but idk why it’s so hard to find men who want a relationship and also want to have sex consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:10 PM
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In both of my db relationships the man was the one who changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:40 PM
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Dead bedrooms happen for all kinds of reasons but usually it’s because something changes during the course of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:46 PM
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Yeah same. I was expressly NOT wanting to start a relationship with my boyfriend after we hooked up because he lived ten hours away from me. But he won me over and I’m glad he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:34 PM
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I have all the same standards for a relationship that I have for a hook up, but my standards for a relationship are much higher. The men I have been in relationships with are more physically attractive than my average hook up, and I have to like them a whole lot more as people, have more in common, and have a much higher level of trust. There are certain sexual activities I will only do with someone I’m in a relationship with because it won’t be enjoyable or safe for me without that high level o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:22 PM
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I don’t live in the Sahara. I live in a place where people wear less when it’s hotter. Therefore it would be weird if men were not wearing shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:19 AM

Yep, the gay club in my city is the most popular club in town, and probably fewer than half of the patrons are LGBTQ. First the straight women started going there, then the straight men followed them because they weren’t showing up to the non-gay clubs. Now it’s just a mixed orientation club with a higher than average number of rainbow flags and drag queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:24 PM

I have an entire collection of fancy platform Crocs for the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:18 PM

Yeah when I did drink I always paid for my own too. I usually only had the patience to wait in line for the bar one time max, and only at like 10pm before it was actually busy. Most of the time I don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:13 PM

Noooo! Don’t abandon me! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:15 PM

Guess we’ll just have to deal with the fact that we’re inadvertently titillating this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:13 PM

Yeah, I have only ever had guys tell me I should wear my hair down. I have bad sensory processing disorder and if my hair touches my neck it’s a terrible time for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:00 PM
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I’m not gonna argue. I was always the ugly friend. It was rough. I could understand that being too much for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:57 PM

Also I never said I stayed sober. I just don’t like drinking at the club. It’s annoying. The lines for the bar are too long. The area around the bar is too crowded. I can’t hear fucking shit over the music when I’m trying to talk to the bartender. I have to finish my drink before I can dance again, and I have to pee way more often which means waiting in line for a sketchy gross bathroom. I just take drugs at home before I go.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:01 PM

I think I’m not the exception for not going with validation and free drinks as a primary motivator.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:45 PM
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That’s only a benefit if you have a snowball’s chance in hell with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:34 PM

Relationships, no. Casual sex, definitely. Whether successful or not, that’s a pretty big motivator for many of the men that go and at least some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:33 PM
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I’m 47 and have been doing it since middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:17 PM
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I have not experienced these supposed benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:16 PM

Dating/sex is the primary reason to go to a club for many people of any gender, and I can respect that. I don’t think we fundamentally disagree at any rate. You definitely shouldn’t just assume that anyone who goes to a club is there because they want to be hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:16 PM
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Yeah most women don’t bother with approaching because it’s not really worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:05 PM

No because then he’d be able to see our sexy sexy necks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:13 PM
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Yeah if you’re wanting to play badminton on dates a lot, you might have to come to terms with the reality that most people aren’t particularly good at badminton. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:15 PM

I have been hit on and groped by men at every gay club I have been to. Straight men know that women go to gay clubs to get away from them. And some guys will happily hook up with anyone of any gender who is willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:12 PM

Hell, I don’t even blame men for shooting their shot. I get it. Lots of people do go to the club for that reason, even if a fairly large percentage don’t. But I’m not there because I want that. It’s at best a neutral experience for me that can quickly turn into a negative interaction depending on the guy involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:09 PM

I go to LGBTQ bars/clubs exclusively. But a lot of straight men do too, because I’m far from the only woman who does that. And weird how I’m “the exception” yet I only have men arguing with me about this. Why is it so hard for men to admit that maybe women are being honest? I like going on vacations. I hate not having adequate personal space on the airplane. I still fly places because overall it’s worth the trade off. Could I just drive instead? Could I just stay home? Sure. But those choices al…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:05 PM

No I don’t believe that I am an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:52 PM
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And bigger and stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:47 PM
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That’s not an accurate description of how most catcalling goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:47 PM
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Oh I love when people bring up the “pig women” experiment when it was absolutely shockingly obvious that the men talking to “her” were Nigerian romance scammers. They even used their own pics for Pete’s sake. Figures that men would consider being the target of scam artists as a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:43 PM
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I’m assuming if he’s taking me on a date to McD’s it’s because he wants to go to McD’s. Never in my life have I asked a date to take me there. But I have had some guys suggest it and I happily went.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:33 PM
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Yes, thank you. I hate that my guard goes up immediately if a man approaches me, even if he’s not intending to hit on me at all. But I have had enough of these situations so situations go sideways so fast, that now my initial visceral reaction is fear. Men who are respectful absolutely suffer due to men who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:04 PM
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Most women don’t mind being approached in these places, what we mind is when men don’t gracefully take no for an answer. I particularly hate it and feel unsafe when it’s a situation where I can’t just leave (bus stop or bus/train, laundromat, while I’m working, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:52 PM

I like the environment, the volume, and I like being able to dance without having a judgmental audience of cats and my roommate. I like dancing with people, whether I know them or not. What I do not like is being groped non-consensually, or followed around by someone who isn’t respectful of my boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:37 PM
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How can I be using a guy for food he is going to eat himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:20 PM

For your cousin maybe. Even when I was single and went to clubs alone or with female friends, I didn’t drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:19 PM

What if I told you that I go to clubs because I like to dance (and I like that style of music as well as the ambiance of that environment). I prefer going with my boyfriend because it greatly reduces my chances of being harassed or assaulted. I also know that any sexually charged contact is going to be with someone I like and am fully consenting to being touched by.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:03 PM
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If I ate $30 worth of McDonald’s I would be puking like that lightweight in Supersize Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:45 PM
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Honestly that’s just my kink. I don’t even need to get anything material out of it. Being in control is more than enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:33 AM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:30 AM
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To your earlier point, I have had some really really traumatic experiences because of my compulsive sexual desire. And I like kinky sex. But I only engage in those kinks with someone I fully trust and have a relationship with. This isn’t unusual for hypersexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:15 AM
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We had opposite work schedules for a long time and that made it harder. If it were up to me it would be more often, but I don’t want to burn him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:08 AM
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It varies depending on his and my work schedules. 5-6x a week on average probably. When he wasn’t working it was a lot more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:59 PM
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As often as possible. I have never turned down my bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:34 PM
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Well the last woman I was with who met that description dumped me for someone much hotter than I am. Her ex was really attractive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:43 PM
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Rating a 300 lb woman highly doesn’t make someone a “glazer” or dishonest is the thing. I’m very much attracted to large women. Way more than I am women with conventionally attractive body shapes. I don’t take the concept of leagues seriously at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:19 PM
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My boyfriend is bi and is much more attracted to men than women in general. He’s very “gay coded” and I love that about him. But I’m honestly really confused about this question. I have met and known of some absolutely horrible gay men. One of my good friends was drugged and violently raped by two men and contacted HIV from the attack. And I have several straight male friends whom I would trust with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:13 PM
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Autistic people can learn these skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:35 PM
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Idk if I have ever specifically used that descriptor, but here’s what I want from a man on that front: Willing and able to talk about things that are bothering him. Not emotionally stifled or stunted. Would rather have a guy who cries really easily than not at all. I strongly prefer emotional vulnerability to stoicism. I am supportive and comforting when my partner is going through it, and I want someone who will do the same for me. I want a partner who is moved emotionally by things like art, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:33 PM
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lol yeah that’s what I was thinking too. Dudes are just as flaky on apps. I have had so many ghost me before a scheduled date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:05 PM
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Me too! 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:49 PM
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No, it’s hard to find anything that isn’t paywalled anymore if you want a full study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:31 AM
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Most women, yeah. But we’re not pretending we all love being approached by anyone either. I’ve had enough terrifying situations with strange men approaching me that I kinda hate it regardless of what the guy looks like. Men get particularly hateful if they are rejected by a woman perceived as beneath him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:27 AM
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People (including women) tend to judge their own attractiveness more harshly than others do. I’m not in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:06 AM
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I don’t ever wear makeup or any of that stuff you listed. I own almost nothing besides t shirts, hoodies and joggers. I wouldn’t even begin to know how to rate myself, or them. I was attracted to them (still very much am attracted to my boyfriend). I would say that my boyfriend and I are probably looks matched, but unlike the other two guys he has at least average facial attractiveness. Before we met he had had sex with a woman only once (he was 33), and didn’t get very many matches on grindr (h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:40 AM
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Maybe show me where I have personally ever said things like this to a man and you might have some kind of point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:08 AM
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Oh cool, so any fucked up batshit insane thing a man says on here I can attribute to you as well? What a dumb fucking conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:54 AM
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Who are you responding to, because it isn’t me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:46 AM
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lol show me where I said I was entitled to men wanting to date me? I’m saying it’s not an effective strategy for women unless maybe they’re really conventionally attractive and neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:20 AM
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Yeah well I’m autistic so it more than likely has at least a little to do with that. But that just bolsters my point. Let’s not pretend that men are always gonna be overjoyed and receptive at being approached by a woman. They only want to be approached by certain women. Not below average women. Not autistic awkward women. Not gender non-conforming women. Not women they think are “sluts”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:18 AM
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It’s been in the hundreds where I live. It would be weird if dudes weren’t wearing shorts. To answer your other questions, sandals are fine. Speedos are fine, though I think trunks look better. Crocs are a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:55 PM
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You said “all women” say this to virtue signal. I’m included in “all women”. And now you’re trying to backtrack by saying that these men were not actually “ugly”. Even if that were true (it’s not) my feelings about them changed because of their confidence. I’m capable of being objective though. The first guy was paunchy with a really puffy face, bad acne, and long greasy hair. All of my friends thought he was gross looking. Even my male friends. My boyfriend started going bald at 16 and is about…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:13 PM
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You clearly haven’t dated any men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:13 PM
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I’m literally hypersexual and I still feel repulsed by men who are too direct about it too early. It does not turn me on in the slightest because it’s disrespectful, overbearing, and presumptuous. I have a very high sex drive, but I also have to feel safe and respected by my partner before I get super horny like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:00 PM
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Damn straight. If a guy pulled that shit on me I’d be getting an abortion as soon as the paternity test came back positive. No way in hell am I going to leash myself to someone like that for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:53 PM
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He’s like a real-life cryptid!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:36 PM
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Even if they don’t see her approaching other guys, they seem to assume that she will if she was acting that way with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:35 PM
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Oh gotcha. So when men say they would love to be approached by a woman, what they really mean is that they would love to be approached by a hot woman. 🙄 Look, the less forward I am with men, the less likely they have been to ghost me or friend zone me. With the exception of my boyfriend, as I said. And his pet name for me is “Daddy”. Straight men are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:33 PM
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I just love when men on this sub think they know more about me than I do. The first guy I was ever head over heels for, the first time I saw him I physically recoiled because I thought he was ugly af. He had me eating out of his hand (not literally) within a week. The first time I saw my boyfriend on his webcam I thought he was really unattractive. Now I think he’s the best looking guy I have ever been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:26 PM
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You don’t have any idea how many men I have asked out. And when I say that it works great with women, I’m not speaking for other women. I’m saying that women do not find it off-putting to be approached by me like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:35 PM
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Confidence makes ugly men way more attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:14 PM
2

Charles Manson was 5’2” and looked batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:04 PM
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I have made the first moves a LOT and I have not found a lot of men who like it. Works great with women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:59 PM
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Nah, I’m basing this on my own experience. When I take the lead in approaching, asking guys out, paying for dates (or at least trying to) it has rarely panned out for me in any positive way. The only guy it has ever gone well with is my current boyfriend who is used to dating men. The vast majority of men, particularly straight men, are very put off by it in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:57 PM
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Man, idk. My algorithm is like 50% Jimothy these days with the rest made up by various proportions of clown content, weird art, and funny cat videos. I’m lucky that my boyfriend understands the assignment and uses this knowledge to woo me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:44 PM
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Assisted living facilities are having huge problems with the spread of STI’s nowadays. It’s never too late. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:31 PM
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Every dude thinks he would love this. My experience has been very very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:29 PM
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It’s not out of laziness. It’s out of knowing that men are just as socialized into gender roles as women are, and doing these things makes you seem masculine to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:22 PM
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Sexual abuse is also strongly associated with hypersexuality. Doesn’t really make sense to just impose a blanket ban when people are individuals and are affected or not affected by trauma in completely different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:49 PM
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People can date or not date who they want, and I’m also perfectly free to think that’s a completely shitty thing to do. It’s also not an unusual thing to do although most won’t admit it. And that’s part of the reason people who have had these experiences tend to be revictimized, or at the very least struggle to get into healthy relationships. I’m not being hypocritical by saying this either. Two of my exes have had a history of sexual abuse and my current boyfriend was in an abusive relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:42 PM

You can try to raise your children however you want, but even if you manage to convince them to stifle parts of themselves for the sake of having a larger percentage of the opposite sex finding them attractive, it comes at a cost. Personally, I value authenticity above appealing to the largest possible demographic. I was raised to be submissive, feminine, and ladylike, but I was never going to be that kind of person. Even if I tried, people saw through it. People have been calling me a dyke sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:35 PM
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The first time I remember feeling attracted to my boyfriend, we were at a club and I got too hot so I took off the fake fur hooded vest I was wearing. He was cold so I told him to put it on. (It was a rooftop dance floor). He was really feeling himself in that vest and started to dance super flamboyantly. I was like “oh ok, he’s actually very cute.” He came out of his queer little shell and I was about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:48 PM
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Of course they do. Not every woman is going to be into you just because you’re also a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:33 AM
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If a woman isn’t really texting you back, or is noncommittal on plans, she’s just not that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:01 AM
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I’m bisexual and had a long term relationship with a woman. The most important thing I looked for was whether it felt like she was putting effort into the earlier stages of the relationship. Not necessarily a fully equal amount, but definitely a solid amount. I did generally approach, pay for dates, make first moves, but I didn’t want to feel like it was pulling teeth to get responses. I wanted to feel like she was actually interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:53 AM
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If they’re going to a gay club to creep on women, what makes you think they’re drunk. None of them was acting drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:09 AM
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I didn’t think I needed to mention it since that’s what we were talking about. I’m not interested in hearing you rationalize why what happened to me somehow doesn’t “count”. I don’t give a shit what narrow parameters you have set up in your head. My experiences are why I fear strange men approaching me. My experiences are why I fear having to turn a guy down. Stalking, rape, sexual assault, and having some man scream inches from my face are plenty of fucking reason. I do not have to be beat up o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 02:34 AM
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Firstly, the first two guys were actively trying to hit on me. The fact that they were probably either mentally ill or on drugs is irrelevant. The second guy beat the shit out of the person who came to my defense. He was violent, no doubt about it. Who the fuck knows what would have happened if the homeless guy hadn’t been there to intervene. It happened ten years ago and I still worry about whether he was ok. Had my phone not been about to die I would not have left. But getting my daughter home…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:56 AM
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Yeah they don’t want either with me most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:25 PM
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I certainly don’t mind approaching, it’s just honestly never once worked out for me. The only time it ever kinda did, I was just wanting to hang out as friends and he thought I was wanting something more, while I assumed he wouldn’t be interested in me so I wasn’t even really trying. Most of the time men seem really put off by it. Straight men do anyway. My boyfriend isn’t straight (I thought he was gay initially but he’s bi).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:52 PM
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Men are just sneakier about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:02 PM
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In one incident a guy had me cornered in an empty train car and was literally screaming at me. I told him that I was married and he accused me of lying. He also had asked me if I was Russian and I had said that I wasn’t and he was accusing me of lying about that too. He seemed like he was an EDP, or possibly on drugs. I balled up in my seat and covered my face and told him I didn’t want to talk anymore (never did in the first place but he wouldn’t leave me alone and clearly being polite wasn’t g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:45 PM
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Maybe you just didn’t see it. I’ve had guys follow me around nightclubs after I pointedly leave and move to another part of the dance floor because they wouldn’t stop groping me even after I repeatedly pushed their hands off of me. In once case the guy didn’t stop until I elbowed him hard in the gut. In other cases women I didn’t even know got inbetween and pushed them away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:02 PM
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Why shouldn’t I have fear of it happening to me when it has happened to me many times over? I have had terrifying experiences after rejecting men. Not always, but often enough that it’s constantly in the back of my mind when I have to do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:18 AM
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Men react badly much more often to being rejected by a woman. Especially a woman he perceives as less attractive than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:13 AM
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Anyone who thinks that bi men aren’t actually bi is an idiot, full stop. My boyfriend has a really rigid physical type with men, but not with women. I have a really rigid physical type with women but not with men. He still has a strong preference for men and I have a strong preference for women. I’m the first woman he has had a serious relationship with and the second woman he has ever had sex with. There are many reasons why bisexual people of all genders are more likely to wind up with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:12 AM

Some women care a lot, some women don’t at all. Some men really care a lot about being taller than the woman they’re with too. I’ve been rejected by men my height or shorter. I’m 5’2”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:54 AM
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I’m referring to the study. Having stronger negative feelings does not equal lashing out at the person who rejected you. You have not experienced rejecting a man as a woman either. I have had absolutely terrifying experiences after rejecting men, or even them perceiving that I was rejecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:47 AM
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Oh no. They say all women want this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:09 AM
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Weird because I have been led to believe that women only like hypermasculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:39 AM
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I haven’t done online dating in almost a decade. It’s completely broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:51 AM
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Asking men out. Wanting to pay for dates. I have to play this stupid game where I pretend to be less interested than I am because if I pursue too hard they always bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:38 AM
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Cool I will add you to the pile of men who don’t believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:36 AM
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This is based on my experience of approaching men long past college. The more forward I am, the more likely they are to ghost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:34 AM
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A large part of it was because of my personality. Not because my personality is bad but because of just who I am fundamentally. It’s like a repellant for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:25 AM
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Because those are by and large the only ones that work. Men internalize social norms too and a woman doing the approaching is seen as “masculine” and “desperate”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:13 AM
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I’m autistic and very masculine, both physically and in terms of my personality and mannerisms. Believe me, I know how it is to be rejected for things outside of my control. Even when I spent a lot of time and effort into looking, acting, and sounding more feminine, it wasn’t anywhere near enough. When I just gave up on trying to do that I had basically zero men interested in me for years on end. I just dated women and never expected a man to want me again. I never blamed men for not being inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:28 AM
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I’m not sure you’re understanding me. I’m not blaming men for having preferences. There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m pushing back against the statements made on this sub that men “can’t afford” to have preferences. They do. Even men who are getting next to zero interest from women will still reject women who they’re not attracted to. As is their absolute right. I’m not sure why you’re bringing up men pretending to be friends with women just to get close to them. It’s not really relevant to wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:00 AM
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Yes, that’s why I take such issue with a lot of these things being repeated on this sub. Men can and do have preferences. Men can and do turn down women for all kinds of reasons. Women doing all the approaching is not the answer to modern dating issues. The difference between men approaching and women approaching is that men tend to decide whether or not to approach pretty quickly and with very little information about that woman. Not always, of course, but men are much more willing to approach …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:30 PM
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I don’t really get how it would relate to hypersexuality? HS is typically associated with early in life sexual abuse and/or mental illness or personality disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:47 PM
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Way to miss the point. Having stronger negative feelings after rejection does not automatically mean that those feelings are directed at the person who rejected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:42 PM
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Lol no, I was drawing those examples directly from the comment I was responding to. You tacked your comment on as though it was in any way relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:34 PM
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No, I just have men and culture putting out the message constantly that women are the selectors. That all a woman has to do is make the first move and it will be like shooting fish in a barrel. That men will fuck “anything”. So when I’m not even wanted for an easy lay, not even by guys that my friend described as “subhuman”, it hurts pretty fucking bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 PM
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It took me decades to find a guy who treats me this well and has the best sexual chemistry with me, plus many interests in common and a personality that compliments mine. Why on earth would I not want to lock that down?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:59 PM
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I’ve been rejected a lot and while I do have pretty strong negative feelings afterward, those feelings are very internalized. I don’t take it out on the guy/woman and I wait till I’m alone to cry. It just makes me feel like I’m ugly and unlovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:48 PM
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I’m not telling anyone else to not trust men without consistent strong evidence. That’s my deal. Abusers are more drawn to people who have been abused in the past, so I have even more reason to be careful than some other people do. It’s not simply about fear that something may happen for me. It’s fear based on things that have happened. I have the absolute right to protect myself. I have the absolute right to not get close to men in order to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:05 PM
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I’m not talking about one or two adverse experiences. I’m talking about a literal lifetime of adverse experiences. Trusting men has led to a lot of horrible things happening to me and to my female family members. Increasing what it takes for me to give a man my trust is my absolute right. In fact men have called me stupid for trusting the men that hurt me in the first place. I can’t make any of you happy, so I might as well do what I need to do to protect myself. I don’t see any connection betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:38 PM
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If you want a bunch of statistics I can give you those too. But it’s ultimately irrelevant TO ME. It wasn’t a bad experience with one man, it had been many men spanning my whole life. That doesn’t mean I don’t trust any men, but it takes a lot more for me to feel like I can. If a man had nearly universally poor experiences with women I would not blame him for feeling the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:37 PM
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My experiences are what led to me not trusting men or thinking very highly of them as a group. There are some men that I trust in addition to my boyfriend but not many. They have all had men do horrible things to them too though. In my world and in my life it has not been a minority of men doing these things. It has been the rule rather than the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:50 PM
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Men like the one who raped my daughter starting when she was 8 years old. Men like the ADA who fucked up some paperwork on the plea deal for the guy who did it, allowing him to get a third of his sentence taken off because my daughter just wanted to move on and not spend the next several years dealing with the justice system again. Men like the one that got drunk and beat me up. Men like the adult who predated on me when I was in high school. Men like the ones that raped me, sexually assaulted m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:27 PM
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I don’t try to say that i don’t have disdain for men. It has been well earned. Spending any amount of time on this sub has only reinforced it for me as well. I don’t abuse my boyfriend. On the contrary, my only instinct is to protect him. He knows exactly how awful, disgusting and dangerous most men are. He dated men almost exclusively before we met. He says they’re “absolutely vile”. It’s also telling that you can’t come up with even one example of an antifeminist man with the type of relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:17 PM
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Every post you have made here is evidence of that. And yeah, I’m sure there are misogynistic women out there. But they’re not the same women who are going to be cool with supporting you financially and being sexually dominant. I am that type of woman and I’m only willing to do that for a man who recognizes his inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:36 AM
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Who are you talking to? I haven’t once said that I think gay and bi men are misogynistic. I do think that about you though, just to be clear. You’re an annoying and terrible example because your disdain for women is obvious and palpable. Because of that, the chances of you finding what you want in a woman are negligible. But good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:20 AM
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If only
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:12 AM
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lol I make twice as much as my boyfriend. All I care about is that he is happy and fulfilled with what he does. If it were totally up to me he wouldn’t be working at all, but he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:07 AM
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So you’re just throwing out another unrelated statement for no reason? Ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:45 AM
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It’s a stupid analogy because fish don’t want to be caught. If you are trying to get women who don’t want you, that’s the problem. If you have to trick a woman into being with you then YOU are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:07 PM

I wanted to believe that at least half of men were decent respectful people, but now I’m thinking it’s more that a whole lot of them just don’t want to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:59 PM
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In what way does giving your female partner gifts, showing her that you care about her, and “chasing” her mean that she thinks she is better than you? You’re just making less and less sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:33 PM
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All of these “reasons” are absolute bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:44 PM
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I don’t get very much male attention, and I still don’t really want it most of the time. Not because the men are mostly unattractive. I don’t care about that. But because of their consistent inability to “read the room” leading to me feeling unsafe a majority of the time it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:55 PM
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Yeah I kind of agree with this take. I feel pretty lucky in that I’m much more attracted to personality than specific physical features because i don’t really think that’s the norm. I have had multiple times in my life where I wasn’t physically attracted to someone at all initially, but after getting to know them that completely changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:28 PM
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I want regular and exciting sex, and I also want that with someone I’m in love with. I don’t think that’s a crazy thing to ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:25 PM
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Likewise I will not live in a house that only has a bathroom. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:20 PM
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I grew up with corporal punishment at home and in school too and wound up with borderline personality disorder and all kinds of health issues that are associated with adverse childhood experiences. There is a lot of science on this issues and it does not fall on the side of HITTING CHILDREN. I raised my child without that and she is a fully functioning and wonderful adult. I will never be on the side of hitting kids. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:52 PM
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I already told you that I have approached men who I found out later had been incarcerated, and it did not change my level of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:19 AM
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I wouldn’t know unless they told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:16 AM
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No? I’m not in the habit of dating my family members. They’re the only ones with above average rates of incarceration. The rest of the men I know seem to have pretty average rates of incarceration. My ex husband is only in prison because I put him there after leaving him. He didn’t have any criminal history before we met.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:48 AM
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Probably yeah, though they don’t tend to volunteer that information. More than half of my male relatives have been. My ex husband is currently incarcerated. At least two of the guys I approached had been incarcerated, and while I did not know that until after the fact, it wasn’t an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:27 AM
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I have known many men that are currently incarcerated or have been in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:09 AM
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No by the upper half I mean the upper half of the bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:34 PM
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And what makes you think that the men I have approached were not somewhere on the upper half of that distribution? Even in terms of age, they were within five years of the median age for men in the US. Once again, whether or not I personally know them has zero bearing on whether or not they are “average.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:32 PM
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I have approached a lot of average men that I actually knew. Me knowing them doesn’t suddenly make them “not average”. Them not being old enough to be my father nor young enough to be my son also does not make them “not average”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:21 PM
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It’s more that most of the time I assume guys aren’t going to be interested in me, so I don’t allow myself to catch feels unless I have some reason to believe they might be reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:19 PM
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Yes, I’m only wanting to date Chad because I’m not into guys who recently graduated high school or are old enough to get social security. 🙄 I already told you I don’t approach strangers. I would have no way of knowing anything about their personality, and that is a requirement for me to want to approach a guy in the first place. You seem to think I’m lying about most men being attractive enough for me to consider based on absolutely nothing. That’s why I brought up my right swipes in the first p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:14 PM
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I filtered for age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:29 PM
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I right swiped more than half of the men I saw during the short time that I used Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:26 PM
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Also, I don’t want to be with a guy who is too physically attractive, so that would eliminate a lot of them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:25 PM
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Nah, I would say that probably 50% of men have a decent personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:23 PM
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If they have a decent personality too, then yes. A lot of men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:18 PM
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Why do you keep saying that? Yes, average. I still have to know them so that I know they are a nice and decent person. That isn’t something I can just know by looking at a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:11 PM
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I don’t approach strangers. I have to know them at least somewhat to be interested. Also, I would guess that only about 20-25% are gonna be within a reasonable age range of me at the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:04 PM
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They were nice decent average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:15 PM
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Because there’s more to people than their looks and I liked them as people. The baseline level of physical attractiveness someone needs to be for me to be interested in them is fairly low. Personality is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:09 PM
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These men were not “out of my league”. You guys always assume that, but they were all average to below average looking. Objectively. Short, bald, overweight to obese, average to below average face. My black pill friend described a couple of them as “subhuman”. Not a single one has been above average in looks or anything else. My boyfriend is significantly more attractive than most of the men I have approached have been, so clearly I’m not that hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:11 PM
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Unsolicited attention isn’t that big of a deal. It’s when the guy doubles down on women who are not interested that it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:43 PM
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Eh, my feelings have changed toward several guys once I realized they were into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:37 PM
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As a woman who has made the first move many many times, it doesn’t really work with hetero men. Men don’t really consider the fact that the women who would approach them are not necessarily women they will be interested in. Not only that but a lot of men are put off by women who are forward. They may not believe they would be, but that’s been my experience. It’s like they think there must be something wrong with you, otherwise you wouldn’t have to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:23 PM

I’ve been the “starter relationship” for a few below average men. It went poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:02 AM
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It’s only ok when men do it. Didn’t you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:17 PM
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I have both given and asked for dating advice from my female friends. If I felt like they gave bad advice, I wouldn’t ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:16 PM
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Discipline, yes. Punish, no. Punishment is much less effective, and studies back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:42 AM
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No. I have worked with IDD individuals for years. Punishments are ineffective and typically make their behavior worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:20 AM
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Punishment doesn’t improve behavior in this population either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:04 AM
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Yeah, you really have no idea what you are talking about if you think that people with IDD just need to be hit more as children. Never mind the fact that adults with IDD are significantly more likely to have been physically abused in the past than other adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:01 PM
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Maybe I’ve just been lucky then. 🤞 Probably didn’t hurt anything that my bf has had horrible experiences with the men he has dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:15 PM
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Don’t presume anything about bi men as a whole based on this one really annoying and terrible example. My boyfriend is bi and is an absolute gem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:59 PM
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You know that most low paying jobs are a lot more physically demanding right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:57 PM
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How the hell am I supposed to do that? Stop being hot? Anyway, it doesn’t bother me at all when my boyfriend finishes quickly. He tries to hold out for his own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:50 PM
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Live and let live. It has absolutely no effect on me. It’s kind of cool that men can do this with female avatars as well. Think maybe they’ll shut up now about how unfair it is that women can just do sex work? Yeah, probably not. But I can always hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:34 PM
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And the law still protects that man from being hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:59 PM
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Hitting any adult for the purposes of discouraging bad behavior would be assault and it’s idiotic that the smallest and most vulnerable members of our society don’t get that same protection from being hit. I work in disability services with adults who function on the same level as children and have significant behavioral issues. If I were to hit one of them, I would probably serve time for it and would never be allowed to work in this field again. There is no difference. If it’s possible to help…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:54 PM
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It seems incredibly far fetched to credit being assaulted one time with fixing all of her discipline issues for the rest of her life. And there are other consequences besides being hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:21 PM
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I’m likely in your generation. Or maybe older, because we got hit way more than a few times, and you know what it left me with? Anger issues and mental health problems. There is no “good” amount of hitting children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:20 PM
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That’s a weird analogy to use. Are you fighting gym crimes now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:14 PM
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Yeah I would much rather have a generation of softer boys than start hitting kids again. And military men are awful. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:09 PM
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Look, I don’t necessarily think that you are wrong about men these days, but also this in particular seems like not that much of an issue. They’re young. Most people don’t graduate high school immediately knowing how to adult. It takes time. I would also much rather see a man ask for help than just try to do shit himself when he has no clue what he is doing and fuck it up. Men my age are allergic to asking for help and it’s seriously irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:06 PM
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Yeah, that’s one possibility, but it’s equally possible that men just live in dirtier/messier homes than women do on average. Based on what I have seen, I’m guessing it’s the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:26 PM
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That’s what I’m saying. You can only argue that men are more efficient at cleaning if they are getting things as clean as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:54 PM
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Dude the entire point of the thought exercise is to compare the nature of bears to the nature of me. You can’t just pretend that bears want to be around people because they don’t. And I would sacrifice my job before I let a random man babysit my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:28 AM
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I don’t think you’re really grasping what I’m saying. The thought exercise says nothing about having to have bears in your house. Bears would not just up and move into a house that people lived in. I left Alaska because of the men. Not the bears. And I was around bears every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:13 PM
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You know why? Because bears avoid people, as a rule. There were bears all over the woods in which I lived. I very very rarely saw them. That’s why I would choose the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:33 PM
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By the way. Alaska is crazy dangerous for women, and it’s not because of bears. That state has very high rates of sexual assault and domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:28 PM
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I lived in a one room cabin out in the woods with no running water with a newborn. Lots of women live like that in Alaska. That’s a majority of the state outside of like two or three cities. I only lived about 10 minutes outside of Fairbanks city limits up in the mountains. There were bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:13 PM
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Most men have gotten better but still aren’t anywhere near where we want them to be. Other men have gotten much much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:44 PM
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We got some of the changes we wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:40 PM
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I lived in Alaska until I was 28 and I love camping. Like hell am I getting in a car with a random dude to drive me out into the woods though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:32 PM
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Yeah you’re totally right. Openly blatant misogyny has definitely seen a resurgence of popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:15 PM
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Hahahahahaha noooooo. They were worse. They just haven’t improved very much. Women did complain about men a LOT in the past. They just didn’t have TikTok or YouTube so men didn’t really hear it directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:11 PM
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No, we argued about it constantly but nothing ever improved on his end despite him eventually conceding that I was right. It’s just that soooooo many American men are like this, it’s difficult to avoid. And they tend to get worse about it as the relationship progresses. A small imbalance in the beginning of the relationship seems tolerable, but then it just continues to widen until it’s no longer worth it to be in the relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:03 PM
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Yes, that’s why women are complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:19 PM

Cooking is a lot more fun when you don’t have to do it 2-3 times every single day. And when you don’t have to clean up the kitchen and wash all the dishes afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:14 PM

Yes, most apartments here do not have in-unit laundry facilities. Most have on site machines that you have to pay for, but it’s usually much more expensive and takes a lot longer than going to the laundromat. As to how much time any given individual spends on things like birthdays and medical appointments, it would depend a lot on the size of their family. If you are making medical appointments for your own kids, you generally also have to take the kids to those appointments as well. That can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:07 PM

Most people in my socioeconomic class do, yeah. Also you do realize there is more to it than just “remembering” someone’s birthday, right? It’s almost as though there’s a reason you need to remember someone’s birthday is coming up. It takes time to shop for a gift and card, wrap the gift, package it safely for the mail if needed and then take it to the post office and stand in line for half an hour to mail it because your post office is chronically understaffed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:50 AM

I couldn’t “exude femininity” if my very life depended on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:43 AM

Sounds like you should have chose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:41 AM

Oh yeah, the hour of total time that I have to stay at the laundromat while the laundry is in the machines and have nothing else to do but scroll my phone (in most cases I’m returning phone calls, making appointments, and catching up on work stuff anyway) is all just fun leisure time for me. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:39 AM

All I’m seeing here is that on average, women have to sacrifice some amount of paid employment so that shit gets done around the house. Sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:28 AM

That’s a really miserable way to look at relationships. Most couples are just wanting someone they enjoy spending time with. If a man expected me to provide him with a bunch of free domestic labor, I would have zero interest in dating him. That type of man can get fucked (but not by me). I watched my grandmothers have those kinds of relationships, and I never wanted that, even as a child. My grandfathers were both miserable, difficult people, and my grandmas got no medals for putting up with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:20 AM

I think that if someone is dead set against having kids then they should listen to that instinct. Having a child isn’t one of those things you should do in the hopes it will “fix” your life, because it won’t. You’ll still be the same person. If you have depression or anxiety, those things will not go away and in all likelihood they will be worse for a while. When I was growing up I saw my life playing out a certain way and being a wife and mother was never a part of that. I did wind up having a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:57 AM
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Me too, but only because I’m still fucking number 87 or whatever he is. You know what they say. The 87th time’s the charm!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:57 PM
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Aww, that’s a shame!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:02 AM
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If I’m asking, it’s because it needs to be done, so as soon as possible and practicable. If it can wait a few hours, I will say so and give a timeframe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:44 AM
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I find it very telling when men use the fish analogy, considering that fish don’t want to be caught because they generally get killed as a result. Not to mention you catch fish by deceiving them and literally luring them into harm’s way. You sure that’s an analogy you want to make? Do you think that makes you seem trustworthy? Does that make you seem like someone a woman should want to be with? Because to me it sounds like you’re dangerous and duplicitous. Btw, Dahmer was autistic af (and also g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:16 AM
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For real. I know many men who hit at least two out of those three things, if not all of them, but are also trans or gay as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:40 AM
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I see. Where is your gym exactly? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:26 AM
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Have you considered the possibility that they just didn’t like you? Yes, I do want the man I’m with to have values that are close to mine, but that doesn’t mean that’s the only thing that matters to me. I also want him to have a personality that clicks with mine. I want him to be funny and silly and creative and passionate. Sexual compatibility is also incredibly important to me. My boyfriend is not particularly masculine at all outside of his sex drive. He wears my clothes all the time and I lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:11 AM
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They do studies on all kinds of shit. Even things where the answers seem completely obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:55 AM
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2 and 3 are both good, but dirty talk is even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:31 AM
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Literally never. Not even while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:56 AM
1

Not giving up is also a valid choice. Both are equally viable options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:17 PM
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No, I’m repeatedly replying because I’m correct about this and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:12 PM
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Still their choice to make and a valid one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:11 PM

And yet here you are. Still replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:06 PM
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It’s just not worth it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:03 PM
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I’m not actually interested in debating your irrelevant comment that you tacked onto mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:52 PM
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Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:28 PM
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You must really like hearing yourself talk. Very typical for a man. Not shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:22 PM
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It is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:19 PM
2

In that case what you wrote is irrelevant to my reply on someone else’s comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:14 PM
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I know several men who choose not to date at all. They are not asexual or aromantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:00 PM
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You literally did compare dating women to employment and provided no other context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:58 PM
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My boyfriend had no idea what I looked like before I picked him up to hang out the first time. I had seen him on webcam before and thought he was unattractive, but he was better looking in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:56 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:55 PM
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I met one of my boyfriends on a local BBS in 1997, and did not know what he looked like until we met for our first date. He didn’t know what I looked like either. We dated for a few months, but I was about to graduate high school and he was still in the 10th grade and I really didn’t want to be tied down to anyone. The 90’s were a wild time. I met a bunch of my friends on that BBS, most of whom were really weird dudes, and several of them were grown ass men. Anyway. Probably would not use a “dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:53 PM
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You can choose not to date women at all. You are unlikely to wind up homeless over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:42 PM
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How is that even comparable? From all I see men say in this sub women are more of a financial liability than an asset anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:39 PM
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Uh huh. Because I didn’t say that. I said you are assuming that men do an adequate job on average:
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:17 PM

Show me where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:56 PM
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lol what fucking data?! We know that single men spend less time doing housework. There is no data to suggest that, on average, single men are cleaning an adequate amount. Some do, but plenty of them do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:46 PM
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Why are you acting like I have never been into men’s homes? Read my flair. Some of them have been absolutely fucking disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:16 PM
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Yes that’s literally what I was asking for
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:58 PM
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I did not know that he was putting me as his emergency contact. Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:05 PM
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Yes, and you haven’t given any information as to how a person would learn aside from “it’s common knowledge”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:40 PM
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No I kinda can fault his logic, because at the time I left he was immunocompromised from an organ transplant, plus he’s always been diabetic. In the five years after I moved out he was hospitalized multiple times with sepsis, had amputations on both feet, and I finally found out about all of this when he, once again, wound up in the hospital in a coma with meningoencephalitis. And I was his emergency contact. He’s not able to work anymore and he is my problem again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:23 PM
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My ex was completely fine with having literal garbage and cat urine and feces all over the floor, dirty dishes piled up, and visible dirt on surfaces. And he used to say the same thing to me. That I was the one who needed it to be “cleaner” than that so it was my “problem” to fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:58 PM
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You’re making an awfully big assumption that single men aren’t more often living in squalor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:51 AM
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Lesbian. I don’t blame her. She didn’t sign up to be someone’s caregiver. Shit happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:03 AM
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I wanted to, but she didn’t feel the same way. One of my family members was no longer able to live in his own due to severe health issues and moved in with us, and she said she was ok with it but clearly wasn’t happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:44 AM
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I’m was with a woman for 7 years and that was never an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:39 AM
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I have had dead bedroom relationships with two men so far. Either way I have to find someone with a libido that matches mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:27 AM
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You’re not making sense. What you are saying is circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:30 PM

There is no evidence to suggest that that is typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:09 PM

If it’s irrelevant then you have zero room to complain about dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:42 PM
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Most men on the dating apps fail immediately in the “respecting boundaries” department. Hence why I stopped using them many years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:02 PM
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I have dated other women. If I have to date again starting from scratch, it’s gonna be women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:01 PM
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If you haven’t dipped your toes into the male dating pool then you truly have no idea how many good men are in it. They are vastly outnumbered by bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:59 PM
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Disappointed by their behavior. In the dating stage that can include things like trying to steer the conversation into sexual territory literally out of nowhere, unsolicited dick pics, uncalled for jealousy (like don’t expect me to not be seeing other people if we haven’t agreed to be exclusive). When dating seriously/cohabitating, stuff like not picking up after himself or doing any housework, being selfish in the bedroom. And any attempts to be manipulative at any stage are a hard line in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:14 PM
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Yes but I only look at solo women or two women together. I am also not straight. I kinda like watching two dudes sometimes but mostly if I know one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:53 PM
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Irrelevant. Women are at their “horniest” from ages 27 to 45. AFBB is a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:35 PM
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He is above average enough for me to swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:48 PM
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Yeah he’s objectively attractive but I’m not into guys who look like that at all. I don’t want my boyfriend to be prettier than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:47 PM
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I stopped dating men entirely for 8 years. The only reason I have a boyfriend now is because we were friends first and he is everything in a man that I never thought I would find. I actually find at least 75-80% of men within a reasonable age range to be physically attractive enough to date, but it’s way more about peridot me and most men don’t make the cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:05 PM
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They are much more tender than adults. This should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:47 AM
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In my experience, men rarely leave those frustrations on Reddit. They give themselves away pretty quickly when talking to women off of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:43 AM
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Poor women don’t expect to be supported either. We have always had to bust our asses to survive, whether with a partner or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:29 AM
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I have never expected my partner to support me. Not even back in the 90’s. My boyfriend makes a lot less than me, and it’s never been an issue for me. I would honestly be fine with him just staying home but he likes his job a lot and he doesn’t want me paying for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:25 AM
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Dude, it proves that THAT woman cannot handle rejection. Just like a lot of men also cannot handle rejection. I have been rejected many many times and I have always told them it’s completely fine and they have nothing to feel bad for. It stings, but that’s just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:40 PM

Yes I would sacrifice myself for a man that I love. I gave my second husband one of my kidneys. When his health started going downhill and he could no longer live on his own safely, I insisted that he move back in with me. I am his caregiver and medical POA and I support him financially because he is no longer able to work. It’s fucking rough. But I’m all he has and I’m not going to let him die alone in a nursing home. I may not feel romantic love for him anymore, but he is my family and always …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:40 PM
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I’ll do it for the sex alone as long as it’s good, and he is otherwise not a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:00 AM
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https://ifstudies.org/insights?id=4410 Married women are much more likely to be having sex at least once a week than unmarried women. https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2008/sexual-behavior-single-adult-american-women Married women across every age group included in the study report being currently sexually active at a rate significantly higher than single women in their 20’s. Also only about a quarter of single women in their 20’s have had more than one sexual partner within the previous …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:10 AM
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Yeah I’m gonna need to have some evidence of that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:09 AM
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Because the AFBB claim is that women are the most sexually active in their teens and early 20’s and then lose interest in sex once they get married, when the exact opposite is actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:02 AM
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Yes, I grew up in an area with a relatively low population and a lot of fucked up and dangerous men. A couple of them in particular, everyone knew they were fucked up. Their crimes were pretty shocking in nature but nobody didn’t see it coming. One guy got sentenced to over 400 years, and he had been a powder keg since I knew him in middle school. I’d rather not dox myself so I’m just going to leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:50 AM
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Nah, I have known people who have done much worse than that and nobody was particularly surprised to see it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:32 AM
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It’s cute that you seem to believe that men don’t make self destructive decisions their entire lives because of their hormones. But it also doesn’t really dispute anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:30 AM
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As I said, no one ever thought he would be capable of doing something like that. These are the things that people said to be directly. I know it’s very important to your worldview to think that people cannot hide dark triad traits, you are so incredibly fucking wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:25 AM
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People were stunned because they could not imagine he would ever do something like that. Cool that you think you know more about it than I do though when I heard people’s reactions directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:35 AM
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Dude, you don’t know him or them and you don’t have a fucking clue what you are talking about, ok? People were absolutely fucking stunned when he got arrested for raping a child. Trust me, if they knew, they would have cared. Even I never would have expected him to be capable of that shit and we were married for five years. He kept his shit buried deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:27 AM
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Are you being intentionally obtuse? They all thought he was the greatest guy ever. Some of them still do despite the fact he’s been in prison for the last 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:21 AM
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Then I guess all of his friends, family, coworkers, and classmates were all attracted to narcissists too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:09 AM
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Possible but pretty unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:05 AM
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It’s often very much not easy to spot. It took me years of being away from him for me to even recognize some of the things he had done that were actually full on manipulation. I was also a very trusting person when we met. I’m not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:03 AM
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I agree there’s not just one reason why this happens. With my first husband, he did not lose his drive at all, but he was also a really selfish lover. Regardless of that, I still had sex with him. I just really wanted it to be with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:00 AM
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So it would seem that their current partner being boring is the real issue then. Not that their partner wants all this wild sex too and they just don’t want it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:54 AM
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The first study states exactly what I said. That men with DT personalities are more skilled at manipulation and that that could very well be the reason for higher sexual success. My first husband definitely had some kind of cluster b personality disorder. He was also very very manipulative. He succeeded in manipulating almost everyone he knew into thinking he was a harmless nice guy. When I started to see who he actually was, I bailed. Those qualities were not attractive to me in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:51 AM
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In addition to everything else I listed, my boyfriend is also a strong believer in monogamy and wanted a serious relationship with me right out of the gate, has a job that he loves and is a hard working and reliable employee, consistently does grocery shopping, washes dishes, does laundry, vacuums and puts shit away without being asked, is very affectionate and treats me incredibly well, and has very healthy communication skills. He is more bonded with my cat than I am. It’s by far the most stab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:35 AM
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Not sure how you got any of that out of my post but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:26 AM
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Well you would be wrong. It is absolutely not necessary for a man to be “very good looking” for a woman to be sexually excited by him. The most physically attractive men I have been with have been my absolute worst lays. A couple of them were really nice, but still kinda crap in bed. And no, the guys I have been with who were the best sexually were not “Chad” in other ways. They all had working class to middle class jobs. I wouldn’t even call most of them particularly charismatic. One of them wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:23 AM
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There are certainly men in dead bedroom situations who don’t want to be there. But there is no real reason to assume that all their wives had a wild past with Chad and then decided they don’t like sex anymore as soon as they get married. I’ve spent time on that sub before, as someone who was also not having sex within my relationship, and it seemed like those men’s wives never had a super high libido to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:05 AM
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Been there, done that. Implying that they have already sown their wild oats and no longer have any desire to be sexually adventurous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:00 AM
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Find out if what is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:58 AM
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Regardless it’s a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:56 AM
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I’m defining it by when her libido is at its highest, which is also when her fertility is in decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:59 PM
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Then you would have to not be paying attention at all. That’s the whole idea behind AFBB.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:58 PM
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Yeah I settled for a guy who was not interested in sex for a while. I won’t do it again. Either way, the problem was certainly not that I didn’t want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:57 PM
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Nah studies show that women may be more likely to be attracted to people who display those traits, but people who display those traits are also more likely to be highly charismatic and manipulate, which means they can manipulate people into liking them more easily. Anyway. Moving on to your question, here are some of the things that I feel like makes my boyfriend a “bad boy” to me: He’s openly queer and non-religious despite his family’s disapproval, he likes to experiment with psychedelics, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:56 PM
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The whole argument against BB hinges on the idea that she’s not going to want to have sex with you because she’s already btdt. But that idea has no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:42 PM
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Yeah that’s definitely not what I mean by “bad boy”. At least not any kind of bad boy that I would actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:34 PM
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No way, I like below average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:31 PM
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Same. I have done anal a handful of times with guys I wasn’t seriously dating, but I still had to really trust them and it was never a ONS. If a guy I’m in a relationship with wants to do it, we’re doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:30 PM

Idk I started wanting a kid when I was like 19, and wanted a stable relationship even earlier than that. But I wasn’t really wanting to do the whole married with kids thing until I was 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:21 PM
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What exactly does “bad boy” mean to you, because I feel like it doesn’t mean the same thing to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:16 PM
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Ok I think I’m with you now. Most people aren’t really at the far ends of that spectrum though. Most people are somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:15 PM
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If you settle down with a woman in her late 20’s to early 30’s and stay together then you get the entirety of that peak. Even if you start dating at the very top of that peak, you still have at least ten years before that peak starts to appreciably decline. Most women are only just starting to go through menopause in their mid 40’s and maintain a pretty high libido until it’s over. If you marry a 30 yr old woman you’re getting about 25 years of increased libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:12 PM
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Is that actually true though, or is it just what men believe? I know that isn’t true for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:06 PM
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That’s not true at all. The best sex I have ever had has been with the schlubbiest looking dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:04 PM
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Again, maybe this is just me being autistic, but never in my life has a man been good in bed only because he was good looking. In fact more often than not it’s been the opposite. The best sex I have had in my life has been with very average looking dudes. And by that I mean well under six feet tall, bald, hairy, paunchy, guys who look like a high school guidance counselor, not an Abercrombie model. But here’s the thing. Those guys typically have no interest in any kind of serious relationship ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:03 PM
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I’m trying very hard to organize my thoughts and communicate effectively here, and I feel like I’m just failing at it. I don’t understand what being aggressive or subby (in life and in bed) has to do with it? It seems to me that the reality is more like Alpha Fucks and Beta could also fuck but doesn’t really want to. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:57 PM
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I’m doing my best to keep up with replies but I have to do some work training for the next couple hours. If i haven’t replied yet, I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:29 PM
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The whole idea of BB is that this guy has been chosen. Why he thinks that the woman who chose him doesn’t also want her back blown out by him while her libido is at its highest is honestly beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:29 PM
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Yeah in hindsight i didn’t word the OP correctly. Men on this sub act like you can’t be both a stable partner as well as sexually exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:20 PM
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Chad can be boring. Normies can be not boring. It’s not a choice between Chad or boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:18 PM
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There is nothing inherently contradictory about being a stable loving monogamous partner and wanting to regularly have adventurous sex with your stable loving monogamous female partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:17 PM
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Idk I’m 47 and my sex drive has only just started to head back downhill, but my sex drive is still very very strong. I’m not yet menopausal but my hormone levels started hitting the ups and downs maybe a year and a half ago. I probably won’t be fully menopausal till my mid 50’s. It’s super frustrating to me that I wasted so much of my sexual peak in relationships with men who had next to zero interest in sex. I don’t really like casual sex either though. It took me forever to find a guy who want…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:13 PM
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Maybe this is just me being very autistic but I don’t understand what makes these things contradictory. I don’t understand why men are like this. If you have a woman who is ravenous for your cock she is somehow not wife material. It makes no fucking sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:08 PM
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Nah, I’m not. I’ve had no problems finding men who want to have sex, and I’ve had no problems finding men who want to settle down and get married, but it unfortunately kind of rare to find both in the same man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:02 PM
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I’d say more like a bell curve. I’m 47 and not fully menopausal yet, and while I would say that my sex drive was higher 10 years ago than it is now, it’s still pretty damn high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:00 PM
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It hilarious that you think wanting a partner who wants a stable monogamous relationship and is also very interested in having sex with you on a regular basis is an absurdly high bar. But what’s sad is that you seem to be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:32 PM
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What makes you think she’s not attracted to the man? Personally, the higher my sex drive is, the easier it is for me to become attracted to someone. What I was looking for in a partner, and ultimately found with my boyfriend, is someone who wants a monogamous long term relationship, is kind and loving, affectionate, has healthy communication skills, and has a high sex drive with a high level of enthusiasm. My boyfriend is very excited to try new things in the bedroom and lets me know frequently …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:28 PM
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No, you’re misunderstanding. The peak continues until menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:14 PM
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If libido is not the issue then why all the moaning I see on this sub about not wanting to wind up in a dead bedroom? You’re statistically least likely to deal with this when you’re with a woman in her 30’s or 40’s. You can be fairly risk averse and still be sexually adventurous. Having a monogamous sexual relationship is relatively low risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:13 PM
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In order to come in after the peak you would have to get together when she’s entered menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:04 PM
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You can be stable and consistent without being boring. It took me a LONG time to find a man who is both a loving, stable partner, and also sexually exciting. They’re out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:01 PM
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By sexual peak what they mean is that’s when a woman’s libido is the highest, and women in this age range have lower sexual inhibitions. What I mean by this is that it entirely possible to be a stable loving partner and sexually exciting at the same time. It’s just harder to find that in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:57 PM
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Women have a higher sex drive when our fertility starts to fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:54 PM
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I made some chicken fried rice with cauliflower rice and some vegetable wontons. I only ate a few of the wontons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:02 PM
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If it were that well known and established then why is OP asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:39 PM
1

Again. Where would one find this information in order to gauge their own league?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:36 PM
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I honestly don’t remember but I wasn’t able to orgasm from PIV with him at first. It took a little while. I don’t think it happened till weeks after we started using toys and doing some other kink stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:18 PM
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I don’t know how accurate this is because I only have myself as an example. But I think it’s a matter of “the more you do it the easier it gets”. I did not have an orgasm at all until I had been sexually active for over five years. I even gave birth before I ever had an orgasm. I think that a lot of it was mental state, and a lot of it was just not knowing how. I grew up before the internet was widely accessible, and even when I did have access later on, it was in public computer labs, so I wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:32 PM
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Apparently there’s a new method now. They used to have to do amniocentesis. TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:31 PM
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Those are risk to the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:22 PM
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Compare yourself to a bunch of people whose leagues are known or to requirements of each league of women. Then see previous comment. Sure, and where are you going to find that information? There is no consensus on what league anyone is in. No matter who it is you will have people arguing about it. One person’s ideal is another person’s mid or even lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:28 PM

Men are more than happy to volunteer about what they like and what they don’t in women. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:18 PM
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No, we don’t know that. We know that women on OkCupid in 2008 found most of the men on that site to be below average. I was on OkCupid in 2008 and most of the men on there were below average. I have been attracted to a lot of men who I knew were objectively below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:39 PM
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Have we met? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:32 PM
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My body count is very high, and an average sized dick is still my preference. I have turned guys down for being too big. I don’t want to be in pain just from trying to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:31 PM
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I’m hypersexual and I have a preference for smaller, shorter, more effeminate men. But that probably has as much to do with me being queer than anything. In reality I take what I can get. Historically I have not been very picky when it comes to sex partners. I tend to prioritize feeling safe with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:24 PM
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Depends on who you ask. I’m not hot. I was in a dead bedroom marriage at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:58 PM
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I have paid a professional male sex worker a couple of times. Sure, I could have gotten some ugly dude to jackhammer me for free for 60 seconds. But that’s not what I wanted. I wanted to orgasm many many times. And I did. The guy kept his clothes on every time. He was very skilled with his hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:50 PM
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I am, in fact, not a colony of ants. You can DM me if you want. I’m sure I can dig up some pics I used.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:06 PM
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Idk, at the time I was in decent shape and wore makeup and feminine clothing. Maybe they just assumed I was fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:58 PM
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Well your friends must be better looking than me then. The vast majority of my matches I never heard from once. And they were pretty average looking guys. Overweight. Bald. Well under 6 feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:46 PM

I had pretty similar experiences on the apps. Except a decent number of them would ask for nudes and ghost you if you declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:41 PM
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Nah, I worked 65 hours a week (in a very physically demanding field) to my ex husband’s 40. I still did about 95% of the housework and when I asked him to scoop the cat box he would wait days, and then refuse to do it at all when I asked him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:37 PM

Yeah because men started mass right swiping without ever looking at pics, let alone reading profiles. Which led to a pretty unpleasant user experience for women, and women had to adjust their use accordingly. Getting immediately unmatched as soon as they look at your pics is pretty brutal. Getting low effort convos from men who might be willing to use you for sex if you make it as easy on them as possible is not much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:28 PM

Nope. Online dating was a much different experience before it became popular with Tinder. I might get one or two initial messages a week 20 years ago, and I was often sending out more than I was receiving. But you also didn’t have to “match” with someone to converse with them. You could just simply send them a message.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:21 PM

Men have essentially forced women to be extremely selective on apps unless they want to get hounded with farrrrr more messages than they can possibly respond to or keep up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:16 PM

Sounds like they’re consistently blowing it in the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:59 PM
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Yes that’s what they did
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:56 PM

Couples who met online also include those that met through other online channels, not just dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:00 PM
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In comparison to bullying victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:15 PM
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This study had both male and female subjects, and female bullies had a much higher correlation with dating success than male bullies did. That point aside, it’s hilarious to me how studies with self reported evidence are worthless garbage to so many of you here, unless of course it supports your preconceived worldview. Like, wow, such a shocker that the Machiavellian asshole kids claim to have had more sex, claim to be well liked by their peers, and self-assess as more attractive than average. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:57 AM
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Three weeks is a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:25 AM
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The benefit is that I get to see and spend time with my boyfriend more often, and that we each only have to pay half the rent. I like sleeping with him every night. I like seeing him as soon as I come home from work. I miss him so much when he is out of town for a couple of days. I don’t care all that much about marriage. I will get married if he wants to. But it’s not that big of a deal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:37 AM
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When you go in to the ob gyn and they tell you how far along you are, it’s an estimate. There is no way to pinpoint an exact date of conception. If she is given incorrect information about the date of conception, she may think it’s not possible for someone else to be the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:27 AM
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Nah, she may have every reason to believe that the other guy isn’t/couldn’t be the father if the timing of the pregnancy makes it unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 AM
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It’s not necessarily a 50/50 chance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:19 AM
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We’re not talking about any of those though. We are talking about fraud. Which you have to prove there was intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:14 PM
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They would still have to prove that you knew the money was given in error.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:32 PM
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Yeah that doesn’t make it better to me. Idk, I’m younger than that and I have a 26 year old kid. To me it feels like messing with a kid, even though I’m aware it’s all legal. I just feel squicked out about big age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:34 AM
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I have never felt like it was a question to be taken seriously. I always thought it was just a weird joke. Boy am I out of the loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:43 AM
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I used to,but honestly, fuck that. I won’t any longer settle for being in a relationship with a man who doesn’t match my sexual energy. I want someone to do like alien abduction role play with me. And I stuck it out for years before finding my person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:35 AM
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There could be scenarios where you had reason to think it was a bonus or something and didn’t think much of it. Or if your paychecks only go up my a little bit each time but it adds up over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:21 AM
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Yeah I have received court ordered victims compensation. It helped a lot, but there are limits to what you can get compensated. You have to show proof of expenses incurred and cannot get pain and suffering unless you also file a civil suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:16 AM
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I honestly don’t care if men look abroad for a partner. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that inherently. But some of the things passport bros say about “western” women are super misogynistic and shitty. That’s where I take issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:39 AM
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I’m not saying that getting HIV is no big deal. I’m saying that you are pretty unlikely to get it from someone else who is under treatment, even if you are hitting it raw on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:40 PM
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That’s wild. I’m having a negative reaction to it right now, so make it two. I’m not against age gaps but I would seriously question the motives of a woman that age going after someone in their 20’s. Eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:25 PM
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Ok he can still get it though. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:20 PM
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Then he is much more of a scumbag but still didn’t break any laws. Most people who are being treated for HIV are not able to pass it to others, even if no condoms are used. Current treatments are very very effective. I have friends who are HIV pos and it’s not like it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:16 PM
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So called “paternity fraud” does not meet the legal definition of fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:12 PM
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If you’re talking specifically about burglary, the victim is rarely going to see any compensation coming from the person who did it, even if they are caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:11 PM
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The chances of a man contracting HIV from having unprotected vaginal sex one time with an HIV positive female partner are actually pretty low. From the CDC: >The likelihood of a man becoming infected with HIV from a single episode of unprotected vaginal sex with an HIV-positive woman is relatively low—statistically estimated at about 4 in 10,000 exposures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:08 PM
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Just saying that it’s not always irrelevant if you’re trying to get compensation for your shit being stolen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:05 PM
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Battery is a crime. Cheating is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:03 PM
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You would have to know that the money doesn’t belong to you, and they would have to prove that to get a conviction. That’s intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:01 PM
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That’s not a criminal charge though. It’s a civil one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:55 PM
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Well it’s a good thing that lower class men are also getting into relationships and getting married too then. I’ve worked a lot of low wage jobs, and of the men I have worked with, a majority were either married or in a long term relationship. I live in the shitty part of town and have tons of neighbors who are in heterosexual relationships. Most are Gen Z or younger millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:54 PM
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Being charged with most crimes requires proof of intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:47 PM
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She’s talking about the obvious double standard that many male posters display on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:46 PM
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Insurance does account for the quality of the lock on a break in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:45 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:33 PM
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You don’t have to be an attorney to want the actual law to be followed ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:30 PM
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In order to get any kind of legal justice in that situation, they would still have to prove that that guy knew he had HIV. Otherwise he’s just a garden variety reckless scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:29 PM
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Yeah who gives a shit about how dehumanizing that is. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:03 PM
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I honestly wish that anyone who says this actually *could* experience what it’s like to live as a girl/woman starting at birth. I wish you all could experience having to protect yourself and your younger siblings from creepy uncles before hitting puberty. I wish you could experience having gross sexual comments made about your body by grown ass men before getting out of middle school. I wish you could experience unsolicited comments like “Should you really be eating that? You don’t want to get f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:51 PM
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OLD stats only reflect the truth about people’s behavior on OLD platforms at the time they were done. Some people on this sub will take almost 20 year old data, and act as though it has any bearing on how the average person dates. It doesn’t. Not only that but they will conveniently leave out allllllll the other data from those same “studies” that don support their POV. I was using OK Cupid in 2008 when that “80/20” stat came out. Meeting your partner online at that time still had a huge stigma …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:45 PM
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Cool, have fun taking care of all the severely disabled people. It’s pretty fucking exhausting anyway. I’m happy to unload that “useless” job onto any male who wants to take my place. Hope you have a shit ton of patience and a strong stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:28 AM
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I’ve never been to a bachelorette party with a stripper. Hell I have never been to a bachelorette party at all. I didn’t have one for any of my marriages either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:22 AM

I have literally had dudes follow me around the club and continue putting their hands on me even when I keep walking away from them each time. I expect absolutely no help from men in this kind of scenario though. Other women who were complete strangers to me have stepped in on my behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:37 AM
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No. For yourself. How do you determine your own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:03 AM
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The good guys I’ve dated whom I didn’t have sex with right away were really not interested in having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:48 PM

Ugly men are my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:27 PM
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Ok. And how do you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:07 PM
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And? Who said anyone about other topics? Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 02:25 PM
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You asked me to link you to posts from men who complain about women taking basic precautions. That’s not the only topic where I’ve seen it happen, but it’s certainly one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:00 AM
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Well it’s a lot harder to defend yourself if you did sleep with them. And on the topic of men being terrified of being baby trapped, I used to tell men that I had an incurable STI (I don’t) and they would STILL pressure me to have sex without a condom. I have had so many veritable strangers jump into bed with me without so much as a conversation about birth control as well. Men are absolute morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:47 AM
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Search the sub for “male loneliness” and you should have enough material to keep you busy for weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:42 AM
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I didn’t like the losers I was with either, to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:40 AM
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Cool, I hope you stick around and keep that energy for the men here who do exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:29 AM
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Well, not jumping into bed with any and every woman who is remotely willing would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:28 AM
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The way men on this sub talk about false rape allegations of being baby trapped, you’d think they would be a bit more cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:34 AM
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Yo, it’s not that women don’t have self preservation instincts, it’s that we are routinely shamed (by men) for having them. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:30 AM
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Based on how my brother turned out, I’m guessing things would not have been great. Who really knows though. A lot of the reason I am the way I am is not just because I’m female but also because I’m queer. That caused me to question a lot of the ways I was brought up pretty early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:35 PM
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ive had this discussion with another person on this exact thread earlier lol. I do not necessarily disagree, but I think that you have chosen sex as a "personal super private information" not in arbitrary manner. if your partner was arrested for drug smuggling in 2015, it was still be socially required of him to disclose that info even he has already paid the time etc because relationships are built on foundational honesty. Unless they have a conviction of the sort that they are legally required…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:48 PM
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If someone needs to know the exact number of people I have slept with in the past and details about each sexual encounter, then I’m not compatible with that person. If that kind of information exchange is important to you, then find a partner with the same standards. You do not have the right to information that a partner or potential partner isn’t interested in giving. The only thing you have a right to in the scenario is to end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:18 PM
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No, it doesn’t make the situation clearer because those situations really aren’t comparable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:11 PM
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Just how often do you think this is actually happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:52 PM

Reminded me of my childhood in a lot of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:33 PM
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I assume that if things got serious enough to the point where he met my family, any family members of mine he had slept with would take me aside and let me know that later on. I do not know how many people my boyfriend has been with before me, nor do I know all their names (except has last ex, because I met and was friends with his ex before I ever even had talked to my boyfriend) or know what they look like. My boyfriend mostly has dated and had sex with men before me. It’s not a trivial number…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:09 AM
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It’s a miniseries, but Unbelievable on Netflix. Also Welcome to the Dollhouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:56 AM

Most autoimmune disorders won’t kill you outright or shorten your life. Also if you have one, you are very likely to get more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:28 PM
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Well considering that the OP is about how to understand what your own league is, trends don’t matter all that much in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:29 PM
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Do they even know what “bisexual” means? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:34 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:01 PM
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No, I have no idea what you are trying to say’s what do bisexual and lesbian women have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:04 AM

It helps a lot that my boyfriend is 14 years younger than me! 😆 He keeps me young.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:16 AM

Thanks, me too! My drive has slowed some since I turned 40, and I think his drive is quite a bit higher than mine. But I can still be persuaded by him very easily. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:11 AM
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>A large number of women being bisexual lesbian and hypergamous also confirms to the suspicion that why women avoid 50-50. Wait… what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:38 AM

Well my lived experience is having wasted 12 years total of my life on men who were not interested in having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:10 AM
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I’d rather just be myself any find someone who likes me for who I already am, rather than having to change my entire physical appearance and put on a costume every day just to attract a slightly higher percentage of men. But that’s me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:08 AM

There are about as many men causing dead bedrooms as there are women. After going through that twice now, I’m heavily crossing my fingers that my boyfriend maintains at least some of his high sex drive for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:58 PM
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Trends really don’t matter all that much on an individual basis though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:30 PM
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There may be trends in terms of some people being found statistically more attractive than others. But on an individual basis it is entirely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:53 PM
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lol yeah most of us are lucky enough to not be on that man’s radar. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:05 PM
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It’s certainly a lot better if you are not an unwilling captive audience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:03 PM
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Yeah I really don’t see women here behaving the same way that men do. I have literally been accused of lying more times than I can remember on this sub. I do not see men getting treated this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:36 AM
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Nah, those are not the only resources. That’s just the stat that includes books. And if 43% of mothers is “pathetic” what does that make 23% of fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:50 AM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/women-breadwinners-tripled-since-1970s-still-doing-more-unpaid-work/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:26 PM
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I did this for about a year and my kid’s dad did fuck all while I was at work. He was pretty useless in general. Some men are better at doing the stay at home thing than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:19 PM
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Apparently some guys aren’t aware of this rule because out of the five men I have been in longer relationships with (anywhere from 4 months to 8 years) four of them I hooked up with on the first date. I’ll concede that most men I have hooked up with, I never heard from again, but also I didn’t really want or expect to either. Honestly, I didn’t expect to hear from any of the guys I was in relationships with after the first date either. The one that I didn’t hook up with right away, I assumed did…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:57 PM
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>while getting fucked every Friday with a new man thruout their entire 20s. Who do you think is doing this? My body count is over 10x more than average for a woman my age, and it still only works out an average of about 2.5 per year. Any woman having sex with a different guy every week would be an extreme outlier. Even gay men aren’t hitting those kinds of numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:44 PM
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I said we have insane sexual chemistry. Idk if that means the same thing as what you are talking about or not. It wasn’t immediate, and definitely not based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:59 PM
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What do you consider to be “raw lust”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:53 PM
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Well the only other person it could be is me, and it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:43 PM
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You’re not the only one in this sub, but I can see that my replies have exactly one view and one downvote, and you have to view my reply in order to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:41 PM
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It’s weird that you keep downvoting me when I’m literally just answering your questions. Have a nice life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:36 PM
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I’m not “just friends” with my male friends because I think they are ugly. That’s just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:34 PM
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Who said anything about studies? The thread OP linked to is only going to get responses from people who selected their partner for stability and not love. It’s right there in the title. You will not see any other point of view from that thread because people who did select their partner for love won’t be responding in that thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:31 PM
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Yes, some people find that a fully modern lifestyle leaves them feeling disconnected from themselves and from their community. I’m not completely anti-technology, but having to work 50-60 hours a week to keep paying bills that I don’t have any control over the rising costs of is not it for me. I prefer to do more directly for myself and worry less about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:26 PM
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I’m explaining myself just fine. You just don’t seem to understand any of these very common terms and are apparently unwilling to google them either. By creature comforts I mean things like indoor plumbing, air conditioning, laundry facilities, electricity, etc. A subsistence lifestyle is living off the land. Acquiring resources directly from your natural environment rather than exchanging money for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:17 PM
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No? “Couples who met online” include those who meet on other social media for the purpose of these statistics. Video games, Discord, Reddit, Facebook, etc. You can have no luck with apps at all and still have met your SO online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:07 PM
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>What does that even mean? >You're not actually saying anything. 🙄 >Idk who you are. I'm not looking to have anything in common with you. Clearly you don’t, nor do I expect you to. But I sincerely have no idea why you feel like you have to be rude about it. What that means is surviving without many or most of the creature comforts that most people have in industrialized nations. There are still a few parts of the US where most people are living a subsistence lifestyle. I have done it before and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:04 PM
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Most of the issues that men have meeting women online are specifically issues on dating apps. Discord and other similar platforms are basically just an extension of one’s social circle now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:58 PM
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Let me put it this way, if you have never contributed directly to your own survival, and you have zero desire to ever do that, I probably won’t have much in common with you. It’s not a judgement on anyone’s character. Most people have no interest in that, and that’s fine. But I personally feel very confined in relationships with people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:55 PM
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“Online” in this context includes way more than just dating apps. I met my boyfriend on Discord. I was not looking for a relationship and neither was he.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:51 PM
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One that has no connection to their base animal instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:47 PM
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That’s certainly your prerogative. Domesticated humans bore the shit out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:46 PM
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Not unless they’ve been in a monogamous relationship for the past 15 years with no breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:44 PM
3

“Feral” is a typically domesticated animal that lives in the wild. Happens pretty often with cats. The only reason feral cats get put down is because they can become an invasive species and threaten bird populations. Even in the context of humans it just means independent, unconventional, and untamed. Not “crazy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:42 PM
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There are plenty of couples who have both feral sexual attraction and stability within their relationship. You just won’t find them in that thread. I had neither of those with my first husband. I have both of those with my current partner. What irritates the fuck out of me is the guys in this sub who take any random Reddit comments that even halfway show some evidence of their pre-existing worldview as the absolute gospel truth. But when I say that my boyfriend is 5’6”, bald and a little pudgy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:24 PM
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I don’t care if it’s the middle of the day and there are lots of people around. I have been groped by a drunk guy at a bus stop with lots of people there and they all fucking ignored it. I have also had a guy get on the bus, get off at the same stop as me, and follow me harassing me because I wasn’t receptive to his advances. Also in the middle of the day, and there were lots of people at the stop. I will always be on guard in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:10 PM
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Fun fact: you can be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:51 PM
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Every. Single. Time. And then they act like women are the problem because they’re statistically more likely to file for divorce. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:13 PM
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Or at a bus stop. Even if they turn out to be nice and not creepy at all, it’s gonna get my hackles up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:32 PM
1

The only time I have hooked up with guys who cold approached me, I was by myself at a bar or club. I have never had it lead to a relationship, but that had more to do with the circumstances at the time than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:25 PM
1

Granting asylum to conscription aged men would absolutely interfere with Ukraine’s ability to enforce their conscription. How would it not do so? Why would Norway grant asylum to men wanting to avoid conscription when they conscript their own men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:39 AM
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It has nothing to do with gender roles. They have no control over Ukraine’s conscription laws and who is included in the conscription pool. They have chosen not to interfere with Ukraine’s conscription, and there is nothing hypocritical about the way they have done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:32 AM
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Their asylum laws are structured on not interfering with conscription in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:28 AM
1

How is it against Denmark’s principles? They have conscription irrespective of gender. Their principles allow for conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:22 AM
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Their position on conscription is very relevant. Women are not subject to conscription in Ukraine. Sending women back would do nothing to improve Ukraine’s chances. Same with sending back boys and men over 60. The only people being excluded from seeking asylum are those able to be conscripted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:20 AM
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Norway includes both men and women in their own conscription, so clearly as a country they believe that the right to bodily autonomy should not include the right to not be conscripted. Nothing about their position here is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:12 AM
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Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:02 AM
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I never said that it wasn’t about interference? Norway specifically cited not wanting to interfere with Ukraine’s conscription. I have said this several times. Allowing asylum to people within the conscription pool DOES interfere with Ukraine’s self governance. Accepting women does not interfere with their conscription and in turn their self governance. All it does is put those women at risk for no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:01 AM
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I thought you had all the time in the world. What happened to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:54 AM
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For fuck’s sake. They are denying asylum to anyone able to be conscripted. If women were being conscripted I highly doubt they would grant those women asylum but not men, especially considering that Norway includes women in their own conscription pool. They are not denying asylum to all men, only men within the age range able to be conscripted. So clearly they are not just being sexist for the sake of being sexist, right? It’s not “accidental” either, it’s very clearly intended to avoid interfer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:52 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:40 AM
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That’s not the only principle that they have. If it were, then you might have a point. Allowing asylum to conscription aged men from Ukraine does interfere with Ukraine’s ability to self govern by giving those men a legal channel to dodge conscription. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp? There is no reason to send back women or men outside of the conscription age range because those people would just be at risk without any benefit to Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:40 AM
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I’m also responding to other lame ass dudes online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:35 AM
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What else have I got to do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:32 AM
1

Where did I ever say that it wasn’t a sex sort?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:30 AM
1

Norway specifically cited not wanting to interfere with Ukraine’s ability to defend themselves. Why are we still talking about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:30 AM
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No, I’m just ignoring that. It against the rules of this sub to block participants. My boyfriend is asleep and will be for at least another 5 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:28 AM
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Norway accepting asylum from Ukrainian men interferes with the Ukraines military defense. It is intellectually dishonest to claim otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:26 AM
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Like what? You admitting that you have no proof of anything you claim? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:22 AM
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Norway accepting asylum from men absolutely does interfere with the laws in Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:21 AM
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I don’t fuck with children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:18 AM
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Even if that were true, in what way does that imply that they value bodily autonomy over another country’s right to self govern?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:18 AM
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I do what I want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:16 AM
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When has Norway ever claimed to value bodily autonomy above all else? Why would anyone have that expectation of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:16 AM
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I’m not your baby. Glad you’re finally admitting that you haven’t proven anything though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:13 AM
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No, not if it’s only men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:13 AM
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Still waiting for you to prove anything you have said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:11 AM
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I don’t believe in conscription unless both men and women are included.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 AM
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I’d like you to back up your claims with something besides anecdotes that fall apart with the slightest breeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:07 AM
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You are misreading that comment. If a bunch of other countries start accepting asylum from Ukrainian men, they will not have the ability to adequately defend themselves, putting the entire country (Ukraine) at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:06 AM
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When I asked for more examples I meant examples having nothing to do with the current war in the Ukraine. The fact that other countries are doing the same thing only reinforces that interfering with another country’s conscription is not a good idea. Also, you’re going to have to provide some evidence for Norway, Denmark, and Germany all branding themselves as “my body my choice.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:04 AM
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I never said anything about reducing risk in Norway. Choosing not to interfere with Ukraine’s ability to defend themselves is not equal to wanting to support them in the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:00 AM
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How would it reduce the risk to Ukraine if they sent the women back too? Women seeking asylum due to the war are not going to enlist voluntarily, and Ukraine isn’t going to conscript them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:56 AM
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Because, once again, Norway has no control over who gets conscripted in the Ukraine. The only thing Norway has control over is whether or not they are going to actively participate in putting the entire country at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:52 AM
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Still haven’t proven dick
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:49 AM
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I told you I have all the time in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:48 AM
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I have no desire to fix anyone. Which is why I jumped at the chance to be with someone who did not require any fixing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:46 AM
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You gave some questionable anecdotes that didn’t hold up under any scrutiny at all, and then dismissed everything I said to counter that because I’m a woman. What are you, like 13?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:41 AM
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You haven’t proven anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:38 AM
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So do i
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:36 AM
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I’m not mad. You’re just wasting your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:35 AM
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Then really, idk why you bother commenting here. “I don’t believe anything a woman says” isn’t an argument. Meanwhile I’m supposed to just believe that you don’t know anything single woman who doesn’t strictly adhere to the 6/6/6 rule, except they really don’t because he only has to satisfy one of those three things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:31 AM
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I hadn’t been on a date with or had sex with a man in over seven years when we met. I wasn’t looking for anyone during that time either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:27 AM
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It's that a country branding itself on equality and "my body, my choice" had one moment where the principle carried a real price, and it dropped it, for one sex. Because standing on principle in this instance puts the entire country at even higher risk than it already is. Do you have any other examples to back up your argument, or is it only this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:25 AM
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My boyfriend still doesn’t have any one of those. I pursued him. I drove 10 hrs to see him when we were long distance. I initiate sex with him almost daily. Does that sound like someone I’m merely settling for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:21 AM
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I thought one of the 6’s was for 6 inches. Either way, it’s not much of a rule if he only needs to satisfy one of those three “requirements”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:12 AM
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No it doesn’t. Being “in good shape” isn’t even a part of the 6/6/6 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:07 AM
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Norway cannot conscript Ukrainian women. Only Ukraine can make that decision. If women from Ukraine are seeking asylum in Norway due to the war, there is almost zero chance those same women would volunteer to fight if they were sent back. Not wanting to potentially affect the outcome of a war for an entire country is a completely legitimate reason to make the decision that they did. No other reason is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:06 AM
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That’s ridiculous logic. Even if that were true, I sincerely doubt that you don’t know a single woman who is in a relationship with a man who is under six feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:58 AM
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You know the salary and dick size of every single man that every woman you know is in a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:55 AM
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Why do you feel that it’s not “worth” believing that some women could not give a shit about some arbitrary 6/6/6 rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:51 AM
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No, I mean why are you here at all? This is a debate sub. If you’re just going to say that you don’t believe anything a woman says, you’re not debating in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:48 AM
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Then why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:45 AM
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So name one: what consideration outweighed a man's right not to be sent toward a front, that isn't just "Ukraine is willing to force men and not women"? Umm, the fact that even more men will definitely die if Ukrainian soldiers are significantly outnumbered? The fact that it could permanently alter the entire future of Ukraine?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:44 AM
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My boyfriend doesn’t come close to any one of those metrics, and I would hurl myself off a cliff if anything happened to him. Tall men give me the ick. They don’t even look right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:38 AM
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You keep acting as though bodily autonomy is the only thing that matters in this decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:35 AM
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>whom is arguably the most influential female politician in history Who is arguing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:06 AM
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Right, but granting women from Ukraine asylum is not going to have any effect on that country’s ability to defend themselves. There is no realistic chance that that could potentially change any outcome. Granting men asylum certainly could.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:03 AM
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Right, but granting women from Ukraine asylum is not going to have any effect on that country’s ability to defend themselves. There is no realistic chance that that could potentially change any outcome. Granting men asylum certainly could.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:50 AM
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We’re not talking about sheltering one man. It would be a lot of men. The neutral option would interfere with Ukraine having enough able bodied soldiers, and thus interfere with their ability to defend themselves adequately. You’re making this all about feminism, when that’s not the only thing at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:02 AM
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How would they have known what it’s like before women were even allowed in combat roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:57 AM
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They would choosing to interfere with another country’s laws by doing so. That’s not something to be taken lightly. Gender equality is not and cannot be their only consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:48 AM
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Bodycam footage is released in more than just “intense” situations involving a direct threat. Regardless, we have no way of knowing how much of it he has seen, how much comparable footage he has seen of male officers in comparable situations, and whether or not the footage he has seen is getting attention only because the female officer is showing fear. Hell, since he hasn’t posted any links at all, I can’t even confirm whether what he is saying is even true. It’s a stupid-ass reason to claim th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:40 AM
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No, the reason given was that they did not want to interfere with Ukraine having enough able bodied soldiers. If Ukraine were drafting women as well, and they only denied asylum to men, then you might have a point. But they aren’t. Foreign policy is based on a whole lot more than just ideals about gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:35 AM
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Do you think they would have done it the exact same way if the Ukraine also drafted women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:21 AM
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I literally said there was some skill set crossover. Why are you acting like I have said there is no similarity whatsoever? And my second point still stands. I have no idea what bodycam footage he has seen but it’s idiotic to assume that that is representative of how any female cop or soldier would behave in a potentially dangerous situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:21 AM
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I didn’t feign anything. I assumed he was talking about cops, but he didn’t specify, and it had nothing to do with my comment regardless. There may be some skill set crossover, but they are still very different jobs. Regardless, the vast majority of bodycam footage is not out there available for civilians to watch, so why he would think whatever he has seen has any bearing on female soldiers is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:04 AM
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Norway cannot change Ukraine’s conscription laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:42 AM
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I realize he is talking about cops. It’s a very different job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:29 AM
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What exactly is it that you expect them to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:22 AM
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I’m responding to the claim that women don’t want the bad part of dismantling gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:21 AM
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I’m not attractive enough to be a Becky. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:17 AM
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The only guy I know who has a boat is my dad. He’s never had a six pack and he is 71. It’s also like a small fishing boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:16 AM
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Yeah, it’s the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:10 AM
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In my experience, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:05 AM
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The hell are you talking about? Since when do soldiers wear bodycams?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:59 AM
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Yes, I read his post. That has no bearing on the comment I’m responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:54 AM
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Masculine women are definitely not preferred in a heterosexual dating context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:51 AM
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Men are largely the ones who tried to keep women out of the military and out of combat positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:49 AM
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I think a lot of people actively work to be good parents. Reading parenting books and websites is one of many ways to do that, and a sizable percentage of mothers are using these resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:48 AM
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No, why would we? It doesn’t really matter if non-parents are buying/reading the books. The statement I am responding to is “Most people don’t actively work to be a good parent.” You can’t actively work to be a good parent if you aren’t a parent in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:30 AM
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Because non-parents rarely read that sort of material unless it’s out of vocational or academic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:42 AM
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My job, which is a female dominated vocation, requires a huge amount of undervalued skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:03 AM
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Well yeah. We’re typically the ones providing the majority of the care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:56 AM
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That would be a weird thing to study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:32 AM
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10% physical 90% everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:23 AM
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According to Pew Research, 43% of mothers utilize parenting books, magazines and websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:22 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/12/17/parenting-in-america/ 43% of mothers vs 23% of fathers utilize parenting books, magazines, and websites for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:14 AM
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>Most people don't actively work to be a good parent, male or female, you do pick up skills as you raise them but it isn't a thing women are actively working to build especially when majority of young women these days are unsure or out right don't want children. Who is buying all of those parenting books then? I read a bunch of them when I was pregnant and when my daughter was young. >Even emotional intelligence isn't something women are actively trying to build, it is just something that happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:45 PM
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Neither are female bus drivers (I used to be one, and there are a ton of them) or cleaning ladies, or any of the other number of women breaking their backs to keep shit running.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:42 PM
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I agree with the premise but your examples are almost insulting. I work at a group home for intellectually disabled adults, and have gone for months being the only staff on shift, working with four adults with violent behaviors. I have come home with bruises and scratches all over my arms from being pinched and hit. Cook for them, clean the whole house, make the menu, order groceries, do their laundry, help them change clothing, shower, use the bathroom, brush their teeth, dealt with (huge) diar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:49 PM
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You’re definitely not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:07 AM

Right, I was being a little hyperbolic. But my point is that what isn’t a good fit for you or for me might be a perfect fit for someone else. At the end of the day it just a compatibility issue. No harm no foul.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:33 AM

I agree with everyone saying you guys just didn’t have chemistry and were a good match for each other and that ok. I can’t imagine not having any strong opinions either, but it doesn’t make someone a bad person. I wouldn’t want to date someone like that, but someone else might like them very much. Who am I to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:54 AM
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It’s not at all uncommon for men (even average and below average men) to reject women without having sex for a whole bunch of reasons, which is their complete right to do. I’ve been rejected by men more times than I can even remember, and while it stings, that’s life. I’m not most people’s cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:23 PM
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Yeah that’s not even close to accurate. You just pulled that number out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:11 PM
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lol show me statistics on the percentage of men who ghost after sex and their attractiveness ranking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:02 PM
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Has nothing to do with my “opinion”. It’s not my opinion that unattractive men ghost women after sex. It’s my actual lived experience. Sure, some of them might text me like six months or a year later. Which is fundamentally no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:36 PM
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lol why in the actual fuck would anyone lie about having sex with unattractive men? I’m hypersexual due to BPD, and unattractive men are generally pretty easy to get into bed, and much more likely to be a quality lay than any attractive man is. I only had to fuck a few 7s to know they were a waste of my time, at best, and I started avoiding anyone who was above average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:26 PM
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They make up the vast majority of my body count, which is significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:54 PM
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There are an awful lot of unattractive, low earning men out there who are not incels. Also, it’s against the rules of this sub to downvote. JSYK
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:51 PM
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Men of all “value” levels do and will ghost women after having sex one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:49 PM
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You don’t have to approach someone first in order to be rejected by them. I’ve had plenty of dudes not be interested in going out a second time even though they were the ones who asked me out initially. Likewise, I have asked out guys/women first and then not wanted to continue seeing them. It’s not unusual for an incompatibility to be revealed early on in the dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:42 PM

They’ve been dicking around in politics far longer than that, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:09 AM

>after decades of promoting the narrative of male-bodied humans as insatiable rape monsters whose very presence is a threat to women safety. On what fucking planet? The only people I ever heard this narrative from was the bat-shit insane purity culture weirdos I had the misfortune of being surrounded by as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:02 AM
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Yeah, the problem with promoting the idea of leagues as something concrete and immutable is that if a person is turned down by someone whom they believe to be below their “league”, they either get super offended by it, or it causes them to think they are less attractive than they actually are. Some people put so much stock in this concept that it affects their own self worth, or makes them feel like they are entitled to the attention of someone they feel is below them on the scale. I’ve had men …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:48 AM
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It is also an observable reality that people have all kinds of reasons for dating someone or choosing not to date someone that have nothing to do with that person’s appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:06 AM
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People make up all kinds of things that aren’t real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:58 AM
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My boyfriend would disagree with you about sex not being a magical otherworldly experience. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:29 AM
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The fact that all attractive people and unattractive people are not uniformly mixed does not mean that people are relegated to imaginary leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:51 AM
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Ok sure. Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:33 AM
1

I actually stopped dating men for over seven years. I dated women and had a relationship with a woman during that time. When I met my boyfriend, I wasn’t looking for anything and never intended on dating a man again. We were just friends initially and I thought he was gay, but it turned out that he is bi and we’re a very good fit for one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:40 PM
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What you call “validation” is worthless to me and annoying at best. Typical male validation just makes me appreciate my boyfriend even more. Horny men are a dime a dozen. They will dm you without even knowing what you look like. Because of them my participation on social media is pretty minimal. It irritates me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:11 PM
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I didn’t say there are no differences at all between the sexes. I said that masculinity is not unique to men and femininity is not unique to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:51 PM
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Which has fuck all to do with what I said then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:38 PM
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Sexual dimorphism in humans is only considered moderate compared to other primates. In humans, there is significant crossover between men and women for nearly all naturally dimorphic traits. Masculinity is not unique to men. Femininity is not unique to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:37 PM
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If it were inherent to sex then no woman would have masculine characteristics (physical or otherwise). You can put a dress and makeup on a masculine woman but she is still going to come off as masculine. Same goes for feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:07 PM
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Provide proof that men are marginalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:56 PM
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You can have social skills and a magnetic personality without being a good person. You can be a good person and have poor social skills and/or a boring personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:54 PM
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Yes. Yes it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:52 PM
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Men provide no unique value to society aside from reproduction, and neither do women. Whether someone provides value to society or the world would be better off without them is entirely dependent on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:45 PM
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Clothing has nothing to do with it. My family tree is full of incredibly masculine women in dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:41 PM
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I do think it matters. I would not say that masculinity is a characteristic completely unique to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:35 PM
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So you have never met a woman who has typically male characteristics? Or a man who has typically female characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:29 PM
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My mother is significantly more masculine than my boyfriend. She’s not cosplaying anything. That’s just who she is. She is 74 and I would not attempt to fight her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:28 PM
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How do you define masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:27 PM
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How do you define masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:26 PM
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Never met a butch woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:09 PM
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Well I can’t reply since you apparently have me blocked. That’s how badly you needed to have the last word. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:39 PM
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It was more of an observation. One I have made countless times before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:21 PM
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The mods would have sent you a message. Yes, I got a message from Reddit. What I wrote is not in the message. Just a link which goes to the deleted comment above. Then you aren't any better than any of us, cupcake. It’s annoying when someone else does it to you, isn’t it? Not that that’s going to stop you from continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:18 PM
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You could pm me the comment that was deleted and the mod message, you know? I'm not saying you must as you've already said you don't care what I think about it. It’s been deleted so there is no proof of what I said in the first place. But you are also responding to me every time, so look in the mirror when it comes to beating a dead horse. I treat men the same way they treat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:13 PM
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Case in point that you, like nearly every other man on this sub, feel the need to beat a dead horse endlessly no matter how many times I tell you there is literally no point. You seem intent on believing that Reddit is misandrist. I have just gotten evidence to the contrary delivered to my inbox. Since I cannot give you this evidence without repercussions, from my perspective we are at an impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:04 PM
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Case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:55 PM
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Where did I “make a stink?” I said I have no proof of your claims. If you don’t care then why are you the one who keeps bringing it up? It’s hilarious how men here are incapable of just not responding when there isn’t anything left to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:52 PM
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I literally just said that it doesn’t matter to me if you believe me or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:49 PM
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I hold men to the same standard they hold me to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:36 PM
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It’s clear to me. Whether or not you believe me doesn’t matter to me all that much. I’m very used to being accused of lying on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:28 PM
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Clearly not in my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:22 PM
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Men absolutely do not find it attractive when women are proactive. At best they are flattered but still not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:10 PM
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It was absolutely for a BS reason but since I can’t discuss what I even said, there is no point in talking about it further with you. The only thing I can say is that unless you consider men as a whole to be a “marginalized group”, I did not break any rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:03 PM
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Proof of what? That I've been banned or my own comments deleted? Yes Men and women get their shit taken down and their accounts banned all the time, for various reasons. And what? You think that automatically makes it equitable? I can't see the comment you tried to make, but I'm guessing the reason given by the mods wasn't "comment removed because you are a woman" lol I never said it was. But since I’m not allowed to say it, I guess our conversation about it has to end here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:47 PM
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I have absolutely no proof of that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:38 PM
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I see absolutely hideous blanket statements about women stay up on here all the time. So much for your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:27 PM
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My comment that just got deleted by Reddit would indicate otherwise. It’s still very much a man’s world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:10 PM
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Well I will certainly remember this moment the next time someone claims that society is biased toward women and that misandry is completely accepted. Meanwhile I cannot count the number of times I have read negative blanket statements about women which go unchecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:54 PM
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Apparently I can’t say what I actually think 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:46 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:42 PM
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You can hate men and still believe that they deserve equal rights. To be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:44 AM
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The viewpoints of self described feminists are so widely varied that the term has become almost meaningless. Many opinions that are popularly held by self-appointed feminists go directly against the ideals of gender equality. It would be like if 2/3rds of self described vegans actually ate cheese and bacon a few times a month. People would very rightfully start to not take any vegans seriously, and they would have an even bigger PR problem than they currently do. But if you *don’t* consider your…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:58 AM
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Oh yeah there was a lot of blatant racism and homophobia involved in that case as well. It was a mess. He could have been caught way earlier. I lived in Seattle for about a decade and I randomly met a woman who was close friends with Ted Bundy’s girlfriend during the few years before he was caught. She said that he was really good to her and her daughter and never laid a finger on either of them. He volunteered for a suicide hotline for years as well. Some men are waaaaaaay more adept at hiding …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:50 AM
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Dahmer was a weird dude and his neighbor called the police multiple times because she legit believed he was killing people in his apartment, and they ignored her. Bundy, on the other hand, was pretty well liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:06 AM
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There are “tells”. Younger and/or less experienced women won’t always pick up on them. But a lot of women will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:03 AM
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If you insist on paying the full bill even when she is upfront wanting to pay it or split it, and it was some kind of shit test on her part, then all you get out of that is possibly a second date woman who conducts shit tests right out of the gate. That’s my answer. You just don’t like my answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:20 PM
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According to that study they *don’t* expect men to pay. Men are just paying anyway. Probably because they think it’s always a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:31 PM
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Umm, if it’s a shit test then you have lost nothing by taking her up on it because why would you even want a woman who does those kinds of shit tests in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:22 PM
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I had a guy nearly push me over to pay for a $4 coffee once rather than allow me to pay for it. This is not an unusual scenario. I try to pay for my own shit and they get all fucking offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:16 PM
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Yes. I’m referring to that study. “In actual practice” men are paying more for dates because they literally will not let women pay even if they are fine with it or want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:06 PM
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If I have issues with men insisting on paying, I’m sure plenty of other women do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:55 PM
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I have no problems paying for dates or splitting the bill, including the first date. In practice it has rarely happened because most men would rather remove their left testicle than allow a woman to pay for the first date. And I’m not about to fight a dude over it. Just for the record, because I fucking know someone will bring it up if I don’t say this: No, I am not less likely to go out with a guy again depending on who pays. I paid the first time I went out with my boyfriend AND I picked him u…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:41 PM

I probably have a lower threshold for mixing drugs/alcohol and sex than most, and I still think it’s fine as long as neither party is intoxicated. That’s where I personally draw the line. If they are showing any signs of intoxication, I get their number or give them mine and don’t hook up at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:06 AM
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I have never in my life claimed to want a serious man. My criteria are based on wanting someone who is a good fit for my personality. I am a deeply unserious person. I would be bored to death with a serious man. You can be exciting and also reliable. You can be charismatic and also monogamous. You can be interesting and also a kind person. It’s not like your choices are strictly between a boring man and a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:56 AM
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About half of the women who use sperm banks are in partnered relationships. Also, single women and lesbian couples were not allowed to use sperm banks in the US until the 80’s, and it was a really controversial thing when it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:17 PM
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I don’t really care if men want to have standards around that. It’s the shitty way they talk about women with higher n-counts that I dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:48 PM
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My boyfriend is bisexual. Obviously it’s not a problem for me. I’m bisexual too. The idea of him having sex with men does not turn me off. He has actually shown me videos of himself with men and it was one of the sexiest things I’ve ever seen in my life. The STI concern, however, is very real. Certain STI’s are much more prolific in the MLM community as they’re just significantly easier to spread through certain types of sexual contact. He has had gonorrhea before. Cheating can certainly be a va…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:36 PM
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If the fetus does develop into a child, the end result is still the same though. The fact that he opted out doesn’t erase the child’s existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:54 PM
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You don’t see any difference in that situation besides “convenience for the mother”?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:52 PM
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Same to you! 🖖
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:35 AM
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I have definitely had my own share of mental and emotional health issues, and I’ve seen how something as simple as getting on the right medication can make a night and day difference in your ability to function in relationships and the rest of the world. It gave me a different perspective on why people wind up the way that they are and how difficult it can be to change those maladaptive behaviors that have become deeply entrenched. Medication gave me some breathing room, but I still had to do ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:47 AM
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I feel as though I’m pretty damn good at spotting red flags, and yet I have been in relationships that were abusive. I can see how on its face that sounds ridiculous, but it’s because of those relationships that I’m way more attuned to it. The earliest red flags one might catch are much more subtle than people think. And I had to figure this shit out for myself starting at 16. People can be abusive in different ways too. So you learn to recognize one type but may miss it the next time if it pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:22 AM

Idk, I don’t see it that way. I deserved to not have my whole life consumed by a personality disorder I didn’t ask for. I deserved a chance at peace and happiness. And I do think I deserved to be criticized for my behavior, because I was legitimately awful to a lot of people who didn’t really deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:11 AM
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Yes, being in relationships with men who were very emotionally stunted gave me insight into why and how they turned out that way. It wasn’t really their fault, but at the same time they were unwilling to do anything about it even as it was destroying our relationship. It was really just heartbreaking because I wanted to be there for them but they wouldn’t or couldn’t let me in. At least I know that I raised my daughter to be different and she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:08 AM

Don’t get me wrong. I get why people wind up that way. I was bullied and abused as a kid and it turned me into a mega asshole for a long time. I was diagnosed with BPD in my early 20’s so I was like…clinically an asshole. I took that shit seriously though because I didn’t want that to just be my life. It sucked. I was angry and sad and felt hopeless and unloved. I didn’t want to feel that way for the rest of my life, you know? I wanted to be able to have good healthy relationships with people. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:58 AM

If you want to meet people who will value you, you won’t do that by sabotaging every potential relationship. You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face by doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:51 AM

You can. It’s hard but possible. I used to have crippling social anxiety but I forced myself to confront that by working in jobs that were public facing, and proactively cultivating friendships with people I click with. It still scares me sometimes. But I can make myself be social in situations where it’s warranted. It has helped a lot. I’m still fundamentally myself, of course, but I’m not the person who withdraws and stays home and never talks to anyone. I met my boyfriend because we were frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:46 AM
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From my perspective, the only ones who are actively working on promoting a point of view that men’s emotions are valid and matter and that men have a right to express those emotions, are those quarter or so of feminists that you mentioned. It doesn’t make sense to oppose that group of people. As you noted, not all feminists are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:38 AM
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Yeah I’m being kind of facetious in saying that, because men like to tell women that all the time. It does solve a lot of problems, but the reality is that sometimes you’re gonna learn lessons about what you don’t want in a relationship the hard way. Very few people get it right on the first try. It’s not that it’s misogynistic advice, it’s that it’s overly simplistic and ignores the realities of how relationships develop. These are things you don’t find out until you have already chosen someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:32 AM
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I’m in total agreement with you. It’s been deeply engrained into our social norms and that’s hard to change. It’s hard being in a relationship with someone who is so emotionally stunted or closed off, but that describes so many people, and men in particular. And yeah I do believe that there are a solid number of women perpetuating that with their biases and their responses to normal emotional reactions. I don’t know how to fix it. I wish I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:02 AM
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We have a lot of work to do as a society. Men and women both.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:51 PM
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It’s realistic but you have to find someone who is a good fit for you, has fairly healthy communication skills, and puts in an equal amount of effort. That’s that hard part. Some of my exes were decent people but we just weren’t a great fit for one another, and the amount of effort I was putting in to making things work felt completely lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:48 PM
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This is how my current relationship is and my boyfriend is a treasure to be protected at any and all cost. It’s not that I don’t reciprocate. I absolutely do. It’s just a physiological reality that I’m able to orgasm more frequently and easily than he is. And it happens to be his favorite thing to do. Our sex life is phenomenal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:13 PM
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The brutal reality that a lot of people just don’t want to hear or accept is that sometimes it can take a long time to find someone who is right for you. Especially if you’re different in ways that the majority of people are put off by. This has been my experience too. I can certainly sympathize. It’s nobody’s fault. That’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:41 PM
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Just for what it’s worth, my boyfriend dated men almost exclusively before we met, and his experience was pretty fucking awful. Most of them didn’t want anything more than sex. Not even friendship. The only man that did want a relationship with him was incredibly abusive to him, especially when he dared to show emotional vulnerability. This is not strictly an issue with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:24 PM
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Choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:05 PM
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It’s interesting to me that you would like to see more women embracing emotional vulnerability in men, yet you call yourself anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:05 PM
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I used OKcupid 8 years ago, and that’s the last time I used any kind of dating app. Once upon a time it was primarily used for actual dating, not hookups. That seems to no longer be the case:
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:20 PM
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Exactly. If I hate it enough to not even want to use apps as a hypersexual person, I can’t even imagine what it’s like for women who aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:55 PM
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Definitely it’s a high enough percentage that it’s hardly worth it to converse with all of them in the hopes of finding those that aren’t. It’s not usually something that can be screened out from the opening message. You actually have to talk to them. And the process is disgusting and demoralizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:43 PM
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It’s honestly just so refreshing to me. I’ve seen him cry more in six months than I saw my ex husband cry in 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:22 PM
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I doubt that very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:47 PM
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The fact that my boyfriend is emotionally vulnerable with me is one of the most attractive things about him to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:31 PM
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You don’t know me or what values I demonstrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:31 PM
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That pretty much describes my relationship with my boyfriend except I make almost twice as much as him. It’s by far the best relationship I have been in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:18 AM

My boyfriend’s is on the smaller side of average, and I have been with a lot of guys with bigger penises, but he legit has ten out of ten dick game. Yes, he does magical things with his tongue and hands too, but I really enjoy penetration with him and I orgasm from it regularly. I’m about ready to agree to adopt a baby just to keep him around, because he’s that good (he wants a kid and I can’t get pregnant anymore).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:31 AM

I was in a relationship with a woman for 7 years and I didn’t like being penetrated with any kind of toys. We rarely used toys at all. Still had orgasms every time unless I just didn’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:47 AM
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The amount of effort you are putting into a relationship is not what determines how healthy it is. I have, in the past, put a ton of effort into relationships that were not healthy or good at all, because I wasn’t getting an equitable level of effort back from the other person. My current relationship feels almost effortless in comparison, and I’m much happier. In reality I am putting in effort, but it’s not unbalanced like it had been with past partners. One person putting in all or most of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:54 PM
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Yes, all relationships require effort, but there is such a thing as too much effort. If I can be in a happy relationship that requires very little effort on my part, why would I want to put in way more effort just to have a guy who is like 6 inches taller with a better looking face? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:27 PM
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I dislike people who think they know more about what my values are than I do. That happens to describe a lot of the men in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:00 PM
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You’re not making the case for them being worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:41 PM

Yes. You’re correct. If you want to start making legal exceptions to a child’s right to support from both parents, that’s probably the best place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:11 PM

I’m not why you are explaining this to me as if I don’t understand that only the mother can legally decide to terminate a pregnancy. The question is how do you accomplish symmetry without overriding the rights of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:09 PM
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Yeah well either I’m the one magical person for whom leagues don’t apply, or it’s not actually that much of a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:04 PM
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I absolutely fucking don’t. ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:55 PM
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Or just maybe the women getting mad here don’t view men that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:50 PM
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I’ve had so much variance within just my own dating experience (well over a hundred at this point) that it hard for me to even take the idea seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:38 PM
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Regardless of the reasons, a man who is tall, attractive, and/or a high earner is more difficult to obtain and more difficult to hang onto. It’s not really worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:40 PM
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Not everyone prefers Chad and Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:37 PM
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That’s not a factor at all. If you are serious about this then you have to think like a lawyer. You don’t have to convince me. You have to convince judges all the way up to the Supreme Court, and you have to do it in a way that doesn’t essentially turn you into a villain taking food out of the mouths of babies. You see the difficulty?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:23 PM
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I certainly didn’t consider them “beneath me” or I would not have shown interest in the first place. Obviously I was attracted, or at the very least willing to hook up. They had their reasons for turning me down, and were completely well within their rights to do so, and none of those reasons given had anything to do with feeling they were out of my “league” fwiw. I have to say though, that my current boyfriend is much more physically attractive and better “on paper” than any of them. So were mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:20 PM
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Children cannot and should not be held legally responsible for the decisions their parents make. If you want to actually overturn any laws that give children the right to financial support from both parents, that argument isn’t going to cut it in any court.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:51 PM
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Again. Child support is not an issue of women’s rights. It’s an issue of children’s rights. The courts have upheld that a child’s right to material support is not less important than an adult’s right to decide whether or not they want to be a parent. Overturning this law would also set a dangerous precedent in the 21 states with abortion bans currently in place, as it would functionally leave children with zero rights to support from their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:26 PM
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This is about the child and their rights. The child’s rights have nothing to do with the mother’s rights. The child did not make that decision. I think you may be vastly overestimating how easy it is to terminate a pregnancy in any case. It’s not at all uncommon for a woman to not know that she is pregnant until the window to have an abortion has already closed or is rapidly approaching. And they’re also pretty significantly expensive, and dependent on proximity to a provider and availability of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:17 PM

So you think the correct move is to change the laws so that children only have the legal right to financial support from their mother? You think this is fair to children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:10 PM

Not enough percentage of men are perma-virgins or strictly gay for this issue to not affect men as a whole. If, as a man, you ever have sex with women, then the SC decision potentially affects you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:05 PM
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You think it’s wrong for children to have a right to material support from both parents? Explain your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:02 PM

It has more to do with the rights of the child than “the government” not wanting to provide for children. Children are people too, and vulnerable citizens at that. So are you suggesting that children having a right to material support front their parents is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:01 PM
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The problem is that the “other factors” seem to come into play at least as often, if not more than the “general rule.” So I kind of ceases to be much of a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:58 PM

No, I mean specifically. If a child is born then the woman is also financially responsible for that child. Child support is for the child. Once the child exists in the world it’s no longer a question of reproductive rights, because reproduction has occurred. I suggest you read about the court case that established precedent for not allowing “paper abortion”. It’s not as simple as you think it is. The reason for the decision is based on pre-existing law and no individual judge has the right to ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:56 PM

The courts have to decide based on the law as it is written.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:42 PM
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I’m talking about average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:47 AM
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Yeah I didn’t really mean you specifically. Just what I see repeated here all the damn time about women only wanting “Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:55 AM
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>The hotter the woman, invariably, the more work she is to get and to maintain a relationship with. Crazy that men somehow believe women don’t think the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:43 AM
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Indifferent. It’s not what I’m into so much, but I’m very very ND and don’t relate to NT men at all. So pretty much every guy I have had a relationship with has had nerdy interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:24 AM
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Not for women it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:41 AM
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I literally do, but not for random-ass strangers. I have to have a reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:18 AM
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Maybe having more options for reversible and effective male birth control would be the more realistic and fair option. I agree with you that we need a better social safety net as well. I’m just not sure that giving men a legal avenue to the abandonment of a living existing child is the right move. Kids don’t get to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:46 PM
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Ok, but in order to change that we would have to somehow overturn the laws that entitle children to material support from both parents and solve the issue of how to make this fair for the child. How do you suggest we do this? FWIW, I am saying this as someone who had a child because I was unable to obtain an abortion. The nearest provider was over six hours away and I did not have a vehicle or anyone who could help me. The child’s father did not want me to have an abortion and refused to help me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:51 PM
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This is not me saying this. This is what the courts decided. The child’s right to material support is codified into law and cannot just be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:30 PM
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The problem with that is that child support is for the child. Once the child is born they are legally entitled to material support from both parents. When a pregnancy is terminated there is no child, therefore no child to support. It’s not a matter of reproductive rights if he is actually reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:19 PM
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“Men’s reproductive rights” meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:13 PM
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Reproductive rights affect men too. Unless you want to be paying child support for a kid that neither one of y’all wanted in the first place. Or having women farrrrrr less likely to engage in sex outside of a long term committed relationship. It’s no coincidence that the R v W decision coincided with the sexual revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:30 PM
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God forbid I want someone who is actually a good fit for me. I’ve done the whole “choose from the best available options” things before and all it has gotten me was a dead bedroom with little physical affection of any kind, for years on end, with a man who had zero interest in meeting me even partway. I had to uproot my entire life, go through a divorce that fucked me financially, and start over from scratch if I ever wanted to have a relationship that involved regular sex with my partner again.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:55 PM
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I’m sorry, are you asking me how I feel about this question? Or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:46 AM
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It worth noting that all of the men I spoke to also felt that they did nothing wrong. It’s like they seem to believe that as long as they got a “yes” at some point then it doesn’t matter what else they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:44 AM
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>If a woman sleeps with someone that they’re not proud to have, nor would have in a sober state, it’s often beneficial to communicate to society - and themselves - that it wasn’t entirely in their control. Men really seem to believe this is the case, but that not reality. The reality is that regardless of the facts of the situation, and the amount of evidence there may be, you will be called a liar. You will have your motives questioned. You will lose relationships with people over it. I have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:38 AM
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That’s all I need. You wouldn’t believe me regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:16 AM
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I know that every single time a man has claimed to me that some bitch tried to ruin his life and he was completely innocent of any wrongdoing, and then he gave me his side of the story, I wound up siding with the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:14 AM
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That’s not true at all. I don’t know how many people got hit by lightning last year but I know that it isn’t common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:06 AM
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I never said I knew a number. I said that it not common. And it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:04 AM
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Show me where I said I knew the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:00 AM
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I don’t have to do exactly what you ask of me in order to properly argue my point. If you have evidence that women are usually lying when they accuse a man of wrongdoing after a drunken hookup, I’d love to see that. Until then, I’m going with what I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:56 AM
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Yeah you can be predatory without “violent coercion.” Obviously there are degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:54 AM
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I don’t give a shit what you asked of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:51 AM
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I have no reason to believe that you wouldn’t be telling the truth about what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:49 AM
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I have heard the man’s side of the story enough times to know that he fully deserves whatever accusations he is getting. Enough to know that women don’t say things like this just for fun, because it doesn’t end well for them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:48 AM
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I didn’t suggest that you do anything in particular. How you choose to handle it after the fact is your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:43 AM
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And what repercussions of having sex do you think someone can escape from by saying that they didn’t feel they were able to consent at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:42 AM
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Again, have all four billion of you been accused of wrongdoing after a drunken hookup? Because those are the men I’m talking about specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:38 AM
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I would consider that to be predatory behavior on her part. What you choose to do with that is your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:36 AM
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I’ve been given the man’s side of the story enough times to know that the guy who swears up and down that he is completely innocent of any wrongdoing in these kinds of situations rarely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:34 AM
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All four billion of you have been accused of wrongdoing after a drunken hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:31 AM
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Based on what the men themselves told me about what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:26 AM
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It’s not about what I think, it’s about what I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:18 AM
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However I don't think that's really fair to equate that to men not doing adequate due diligence as far how many drinks a woman has had, particularly if she's the initiator. I’m not equating them. You shouldn’t be held responsible for something you had no way of knowing. It’s when they do know that it’s an issue. Sometimes a person will buy someone else way too many drinks on purpose. Sometimes they will mix that with a high pressure situation as well. I don't know if you noticed, but alcohol is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:17 AM
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That doesn’t mean it’s common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:10 AM
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Do you really think a lot of women are calling a man they had sex with while drunk a rapist, or a creep, or predatory for absolutely no reason? There is almost always more to the story than just her having been drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:05 AM
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I would be much more cautious about purchasing anything expensive from a store if I learned they have a strict no refunds policy from reviews. In fact I’d probably just find another store to shop at. But that’s me. If they routinely used high pressure sales techniques on drunk people *and* had a strict no refunds policy, I would consider that to be predatory behavior. I blocked a former friend after I found out that he had pressured another friend of mine into a sexual relationship on the day of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:56 AM
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Explain it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:42 AM
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Ok, so there is no way to un-fuck someone. But if you feel like they took advantage of you in a vulnerable state, nothing is stopping you from warning others of their behavior. To use your example, you can still leave negative reviews online for that store.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:41 AM
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I fail to understand your point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:38 AM
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You’re the one who brought up drunk driving. It’s not comparable to having sex while drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:35 AM
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My point is that it doesn’t really matter. If you commit a crime while drunk you can be held responsible for that crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:30 AM
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Drunk driving is a crime. Having sex is not a crime (unless it’s with someone who is not consenting to it or is incapable of consenting to it). These things are not comparable. You can argue your right to have sex with drunk women all you like. You don’t get to decide how she feels about it later though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:28 AM
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Fine, you can’t legally sign a contract while regular drunk either. Nor should anyone be giving you a tattoo. You can certainly be held responsible for a crime committed while blackout drunk though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:23 AM
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If I dont want to be called a rapist then I have no choice but to take their 10 year medical history. Your words. Look, you can choose to conduct yourself however you like, but if that includes having sex with drunk women, then you are knowingly taking that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:21 AM
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Then do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:15 AM
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Not what I meant. You can’t be held responsible for something you had no way of knowing, but there are people who will intentionally take advantage of others being in a vulnerable state and that is creepy-ass behavior even if it doesn’t cross a line into illegal activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:13 AM
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I’m sure you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:09 AM
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Yeah you can. But it’s not nearly as easy as some of y’all seem to think. Your body absolutely fights it from happening and the discomfort is pretty significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:04 AM
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Wait, are the ones saying yes liars or the ones saying no? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:00 AM
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You know that peristalsis keeps things moving in one direction out of that particular orifice, right? You’re definitely not “designed to take it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:59 AM
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That’s why I said “depending on the situation”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:52 AM
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Which is why enthusiastic consent is important. Having sex with someone in the above scenarios may not rise to the level of rape or sexual assault in a legal sense, but depending on the situation it may get you branded as a creep, and you may deserve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:42 AM
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>Alcohol removes inhibitions, it doesn't make you do something you fundamentally don't want, or remove critical thinking skills as long as you're still capable of understanding your surroundings. People still have the right to decide not to do something even if a part of them may want to do that thing. And I would argue that being chemically impaired absolutely does impact your judgement and ability to make decisions. >This is basically describing every semi-drunk sexual encounter as possibly no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:26 AM
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lol no, Joel. Apparently this happens a lot. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:04 AM
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My van dwelling wookie friend used to date a woman whose name started with R. 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:59 AM
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My boyfriend is 5’6”, and started going bald in high school. He works at a dog daycare and boarding facility and makes about little more than half of what I do. And he is Mexican, not Indian. So you got me there I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:37 AM
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It’s so cute that you think you’re not a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:04 AM
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“Liking” women doesn’t make you not a misogynist. It has been over 20 years since I have had sex with an attractive man. It is very much a conscious decision for me. Hell, I have only had sex with one man in the past 8 years, and we only started dating about six months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:00 AM
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Oh I’m afraid it’s much too late for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:53 AM
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Yeah, a few of them were pretty decent as boyfriends but terrible to live with. The vast majority didn’t make it that far, of course, but a handful did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:51 AM
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I don’t have sex with attractive men either. I did a couple of times in my 20’s because I lived in a smallish town and took what I could get, but the sex was legit terrible and I decided it was enough of a trend to not be worth it for me. Ugly men are more likely to put effort in. It’s not a guarantee, but the best sex I have ever had has been with short, bald hairy trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:50 AM
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No, I have rarely known much, if anything, about a guy before going out with him. Either because we met online or because I only knew him through a friend of a friend kind of thing. Even in the cases where I did know him beforehand, I only knew how he behaved as a friend or acquaintance, not in a dating or living together context. When I talk about them being lackluster, I’m not talking about looks at all. If I’m going on a date with someone, they have already passed my (very low) looks threshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:45 AM
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I never said I wasn’t biased against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:41 AM
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Because I don’t know how they’re going to act until I get to know them. What kind of question even is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:37 AM
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It’s so endearing when I’m accused of lying on this sub. Totally makes me feel like I was wrong all along about most men being trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:35 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:10 AM
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I’m not afraid to go after them. I just associate men who look like that with assholes and as a result they’re not attractive to me. Neural plasticity is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:10 AM
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That’s a lot of stuff to try to guess from just a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:00 AM
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“Hot” guys were assholes to me when I was younger. I reflexively don’t trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:00 AM
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My boyfriend is 5’6” and started going bald in high school. He doesn’t work out at all and chocolate is a food group for him. I think he’s very cute but I’m certainly biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:53 AM
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I’m not chasing them either. They may as well not exist. I’m attracted to average looking men just fine. It’s their behavior that is an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:50 AM
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I don’t desire the top 5-10% either. I actively avoid conventionally attractive men and high earners. They’re not really my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:48 AM
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The men I have dated have not been in the top 5-10% of anything. They have still been mostly pretty lackluster at best. I’ve seen the guys that my friends date too, and they’re pretty damn average. Nevertheless we all have/have had dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:52 PM
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They will, and then they’ll be all Pikachu surprised when it goes sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:33 AM
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Bingo. I would say within the confines of a relationship, if boundaries around that have been discussed while sober, it can be a relatively safe activity. Otherwise it’s just a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:24 AM
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Think about it like any other crime a person could commit while drunk. Let’s say a woman gets drunk and goes to her ex boyfriend’s house and vandalizes his car. Action was taken and a crime has been committed in that scenario. Whereas if you are half passed out on a couch and someone removes your clothing and has sex with you, you have not committed any crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:22 AM
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I have seen this scenario play out tons of times on Reddit where a man describes a sexual encounter occurring where he was not able to and/or did not consent, and the broad consensus from commenters (especially female commenters) is that what happened was rape/sexual assault. Yes, people do take it seriously when it happens to men. Maybe not law enforcement so much, unfortunately, but average people, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:15 AM
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Any level of inebriation is playing with fire. Sometimes people appear to be more in control than they actually are, and if you don’t know the person well enough to know that, you risk taking advantage of a state where they were not capable of consent. Why would you even want to risk that? Even if you 100% felt that you were in the right, is it really worth it if you wind up in a legal battle that you may or may not win? Why would you even *want* to have sex with someone who would not consent to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:11 AM
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Looks like it wasn’t produced by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:01 AM
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It’s kind of more similar to someone getting you to sign a contract while blackout drunk or giving you a tattoo while blackout drunk. Driving drunk is a crime. Being taken advantage of is the opposite of that, even if you chose to drink to excess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:39 AM
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Ok, but I have been turned down by more than one man who was significantly less attractive (physically and otherwise) than my boyfriend. So were they out of my league? If so, where does that put my boyfriend? It’s not like there’s a hard cutoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:34 AM
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This image is too blurry to read who produced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:14 AM
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Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:09 AM
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Who doesn’t apply it equally to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:41 AM

I rarely have this kind of information about casual partners. The vast majority of my casual partners have been terrible in bed. The things that make the biggest difference are enthusiasm, respect for consent, curiosity and willingness to experiment, and allowing time for sexual tension to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:42 PM
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Umm yeah? It’s not that it’s annoying seeing someone relax. It’s annoying when you are running around trying to get shit done and he’s just sitting there like a useless blob.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:55 PM
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I love it when my boyfriend is relaxing, but I want to be relaxing *with* him. Luckily he is not the kind of jerk who will smoke weed on the couch while I’m running around doing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:18 PM
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$250 a month would not cut it for me. I spend a lot more than that on discretionary expenses each month and I work hard to be able to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:13 PM
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Idk, I feel pretty damn good about my vetting abilities now, given that it’s been over 20 years since I have been in any kind of abusive relationship. I have been in relationships that have, for various reasons, not worked out. But I’m still close friends with them all and care deeply for them. If I get an uncomfortable feeling about someone, I no longer just brush it aside and ignore it. And no, it’s not just neurodivergence that “gives me the ick”. I don’t date neurotypicals. They’re often ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:04 PM
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lol I would be surprised because he really likes dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:50 AM
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No, it would not be an issue for me. My boyfriend is already bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:49 AM
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Yeah, that would not be any sort of issue for me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:28 AM
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My boyfriend makes about 28k annually and I make about 55k annually. He really loves his job. That’s all that matters to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:03 PM
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The problem with your theory is that you are assuming emotional damage from past relationships has made me a less suitable partner. I don’t feel this to be the case at all. The biggest effect it has had on my current relationships is that those experiences have raised the bar for me on what kind of partner I want substantially. Character and compatibility are my two highest priorities now. I’m no longer willing to put up with poor behavior from partners just to have a warm body next to me. My bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:32 PM
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I agree that not everyone can handle it. I can and I have had plenty of casual sex without giving a second thought to the other participants. But even with that ability, it’s far from my preference. Having a long term relationship with someone who I have amazing sexual chemistry with is so so much better in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:50 AM
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Oh sure yeah, but you are ignoring the vast majority of people who don’t post gender war stuff on social media at all. Outside of Reddit, I only use social media media to post art I made that I’m selling, and even then I only do so on Facebook. My IG account has zero stories or photos. I don’t use X or TikTok at all. If I *did* talk about any gender wars stuff on any other platforms you would be hearing different takes. But nobody would hear them because my takes are not the sort of inflammatory…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:12 AM
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The type of freedom I long for is stuff like the ability to just quit my job and move to a squatter camp and open an art museum. And I need someone who is ride or die on that type of lifestyle, because when I make up my mind about shit, I’m pretty focused on those goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:10 PM
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Do I even want to know what the yellow pill is? Is it Sertraline?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:11 AM

Two out of five of my long term male partners caused serious lasting psychological harm through their actions. There was a third guy I dated for a couple of months who got violent with me a couple times while drunk, but I peaced out of that one really quickly so I don’t count him. Out of the other two, the first was not ever physically abusive, and the second one I left as soon as he escalated to physical abuse (after five years of being together) and never looked back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:57 AM
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Oh fair enough, now that I’m noticing your flair I can hazard a guess. It did come off as a pretty… neutral take. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:54 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:06 AM
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You’ve clearly never met my cat. Shifty little bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:01 AM
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I’m 47 years old and spending actual money on clothing and accessories for my stuffed capybara couple. Why am I like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:51 AM
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I think sex is important too, but outside of advocating for the decriminalization/legalization of all kinds of sex work, there are not a lot of things that we can do as a society for sexless men (or women).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:07 AM
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It’s definitely better to be in a good relationship than alone, assuming that’s something you want. But proactively seeking said relationship has historically just led to me trying to force myself into a box I do not fit in. I was not proactively trying when I met my boyfriend, and neither was he. I was just trying to hang out with a friend from Discord who was in town for a few days who I thought was gay. As it turns out, he is not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:46 AM
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Cool, link me to these posts/comments that are mad about men’s mental health month. I must have missed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:02 AM
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>My position is that campaigns such as "Nuclear Family Month" are best understood as part of a broader effort to promote traditional gender and family roles in response to recent cultural changes. The key difference here is that Pride month isn’t “promoting” anything. We’re not recruiting. We’re not trying to entice any straight people to switch teams. Pride parades and other events are in commemoration of the Stonewall riots. What historic event is “Nuclear Family Month” commemorating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:51 AM
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Are these women in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:44 AM
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I’m sure the parties will be lit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:43 AM

Oh it has nothing to do with you being “annoying” and has everything to do with the way you talk about victims of abuse and domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:34 PM

>I know you don't give a shit what non-abusive men think though and prefer all your little dramas and redemption arcs with the "exciting" abusive guys … are not words that a non-abusive man would ever utter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:44 PM
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Fuck that. It would need to be a requirement for both parties. I have zero problems having sex once a week, but at least two of my exes would have found that to be fully unreasonable. In all seriousness, having sex with someone who is completely checked out and uninterested in it is absolutely horrid and I would not sign up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:51 AM
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His boyfriend was a bad person. You’ll get no argument from me there. And I don’t doubt that if women had similar sex drives to men that there would be a lot more women doing things like that. Or pressuring for non-monogamy when it’s not wanted by the other party. I want to be married but between me and you if I knew me and my partner could get equal amounts of attention I would have no problem with an open relationship until I have children. I prefer the structure a nuclear family provides. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:53 PM
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Gay men often get pressured into non-monogamous relationships they don’t actually want, and put up with it because they can’t find anyone else who even wants a relationship. If someone is wired to want monogamy, then it really doesn’t matter how easily they can get casual sex. They’re still not going to want their partner to be fucking other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:44 PM
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I guess that all depends on your views on monogamy. My boyfriend is bi and most of his dating experience has been with men. He really wanted a monogamous relationship but found that impossible to find. The only guy who was interested in being his boyfriend cheated on him constantly with random dudes and lied about it, and then got super mad when his lies weren’t believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:23 PM
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So do you agree that if women had similar sex drives to men that it would cause at least as many problems as it solves? Because that’s what I’m saying. Non-monogamy is more common in the gay community, but for those who want a monogamous relationship, it’s much more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:01 PM
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Right, but it’s not in actuality a monogamous relationship if at least one party is cheating. What you’re suggesting though is that if women had similar sex drives as men, that men would be fine with that because then they could also have sex with other women just as easily. But it’s not even fully about that. Most people don’t want someone they are in a relationship with to be having sex with other people, even if they themselves could easily have sex with other people. Mate guarding is a thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:45 PM
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Cheating is very very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:38 PM
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Even attractive men don’t want their woman having sex with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:04 PM
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Yeah, and what makes you think they would be be fine with women doing the same thing to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 12:39 PM
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I’m sure as hell not hot, and I’m autistic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:43 AM
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Fuck that. I hated it. I’m finally in a healthy and happy relationship and I wouldn’t compromise that for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:41 AM
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Dude why would you assume that? I wound up with an abusive guy because nobody else fucking wanted me. I got rejected by all kinds of nice guys who I imagine probably wouldn’t have abused me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:24 AM
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Who is lying? I learned how to spot it by being with men like that. I haven’t been in an abusive relationship in over 20 years so I guess I figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:13 AM
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You know what, to actually answer your question though, what my abusive exes brought to the table was pretty much the same stuff that my non-abusive exes and current partner bring to the table. They weren’t being shitty towards me 100% of the time. Most of the time things were good, and in those times they were funny, loving, affectionate, we had some things in common, when we weren’t fighting I liked spending time with them. I have a lot of happy and funny memories, and that feels complicated f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:59 AM
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I grew up with an abusive father and other male family members who were abusive, so that seemed normal and comfortable to me. On top of that I’m autistic and was considered really unattractive compared to other girls my age, so I felt like no one else would ever want me and I had to take what I could get. That sort of mentality is like catnip to abusive men. Thankfully I healed and got past that pretty early.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:07 AM
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By that logic, Chads and high status men would be fine with being cheated on, and I’m just not seeing any evidence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:11 PM

Doubtful
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:31 PM

Nah I like pudgy short guys who kind of look like cartoon characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:23 PM
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Open relationships and casual sex without getting into a relationship are much more common and accepted in the gay community.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:32 PM
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R.I.P Baddie Winkle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:42 PM
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I put myself out there for any incel to talk to, and gave every guy who DMed me a chance. So if that’s the case then the average incel isn’t trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:32 PM
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About ten years ago I spent a lot of time talking to self-described incels, thinking that we had the same problem and that it should be fairly easy for me to find someone suitable among them. They were their own worst enemies. Most had standards that I did not meet. Some were incredibly hateful toward women and did not pass my own vetting process. Some were minors, so they were automatically out. All of them had options that they did not consider to be options. Mind you, I have never considered …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:21 PM
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Most of them don’t try either. And the ones who do/have give up very easily, convinced that no woman will ever be attracted to them until it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:57 PM
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Yeah in that case there are no actual incel men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:54 PM
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Only because what she would have to go through to find someone suitable is significantly worse than just staying single, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:52 PM
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You’re forgetting that not finding a man remains a perfectly viable and superior option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:49 PM
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No, it’s not “weakness of will” to refuse to continuously allow people to treat you like you are less than a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:47 PM
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Having self respect? Yeah, oh well. Would rather be single than deal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:44 PM
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Not at all. When you’re not attractive you mostly get the guys who see you as an easy mark for casual sex and most of them don’t put much effort into hiding that fact. It’s unbelievably dehumanizing and demoralizing as well. I could never stomach it for long before just giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:42 PM
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It’s not uncommon for none of them to pass the vetting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:36 PM
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Because they get what we go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:11 PM
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I’m telling ya. Get yourself a guy who is used to having sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:33 PM
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Man, you make me look neurotypical in comparison. There are a whole lot of women out there in the world choosing and dating average men. If you want to pretend that’s not reality, I cannot help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:40 PM
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Then you would be 100% wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:37 PM
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Not just myself. Literally all of my hetero or male partnered female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:59 PM
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Most women aren’t even queer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:58 PM
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I know a lot of poor people and am dating a poor person. Are you gonna try and tell me I’m just imagining all the poor men I know who are in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:41 PM
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You literally just copied and pasted the last comment I responded to. It was incorrect then and it’s incorrect now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:30 PM
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Maybe because women know what they want more than men know what women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:48 AM
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I don’t think most women are actually wanting a non-human lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:25 AM
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Fems are more aggressive than mascs in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:47 AM
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Yeah that’s why it’s ridiculously easy to pull women as another woman. All you have to do is be willing to make the first moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:39 AM
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I don’t have any trouble pulling women despite being short, autistic, and fairly unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:29 AM

You have to realize you’re in an abusive relationship to know that you need to get out of it and figure out how to end that cycle. After I broke up with my first boyfriend when I was 17, everyone kept telling me “oh thank god, he was so abusive.” But nobody said anything to me the whole time we were together. That really pissed me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:11 AM
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Lol so if women are claiming they’re not going to settle but actually do settle then who gives a shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:58 AM
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Idk I don’t really read those books. My boyfriend is into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:45 AM
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I’ve heard the same from other women, yeah. For various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:43 AM
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A lot of the male romantic interests in novels aren’t even human.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:42 AM
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You didn’t address anything else I said. How are you going to claim that women settle when the whole premise of your post is that women are refusing to settle for men who aren’t Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:41 AM
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It’s not “convenient”. It’s fairly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:39 AM
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I believe the point that was being made is that what you consider an average woman may be way off. Nobody considers male characters in romance novels to be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:37 AM
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If women settle then what are you going on about with the “meet my standards” “not settling” “know my worth” stuff? I certainly have not settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:31 AM
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No, not all women want this man. I specifically avoid tall conventionally attractive men. They’re not my cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:27 AM
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The characters in novels are fictional. The women in porn are actual humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:19 AM
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