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Question For WomenDOSGAMES/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:59 PM
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Question For WomenDOSGAMES/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:35 AM
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RIP. It was fun while it lasted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:47 PM
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Much of it is likely due to COVID and everyone working from home. My company has certainly struggled. We went from Customer service reps being in an office, supporting one another, on company issued workstations running on business class internet/telecoms. To people working from home with a laptop, in a makeshift home office, with their kids screaming in the other room. It should get better over time, and it needs to, because most offices aren’t opening back up anytime soon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:06 AM
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I think you are overthinking it. Music and dancing are just natural tingle manufacturers. It’s emotional not logical. And even with that comics get plenty of attention. I did amateur standup for about 7 years and girls approached after shows all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:33 AM
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I joined the Discord and am slightly disappointed. Questionable quality of memes and most of the activity was two dudes bragging to one another about deadlifts and how all women love their jackhammer sex technique. I guess I should manage my expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 01:23 PM
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In my experience the most effective way of getting rid of girls is trying to flirt in a nerdy way with them. I would challenge this claim. Girls always talk about how attractive it is when a man is driven and passionate about a topic. But the tone/context of the conversation is crucial with something like Physics, which is going to be foreign to most people. I’ve seduced girls with Dungeons & Dragons lore. But I did it in a way where she was part of the conversation. I guess I encourage you to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:41 PM
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That’s some shit. And I could see how that’d be frustrating. You out there finding fundamental truths and pushing humanity forward and girls would be more interested with a guy with a hobby of playing acoustic guitar LoL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:26 PM
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Yeah, those sorts of environments really stand out. Like during the Olympics where all the athletes are constantly banging one another. But I could see how a bunch of STEM-lords would kill the vibe a bit. Thats awesome that you got to work on a cool project like that. I would have used CERN related pickup lines: “Hey Girl, do you know a lot about particle collision? Because I have some matter we should smash together.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:15 PM
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Aw man. Just when we were starting to get somewhere! I’d be interested in how these studies support your claims since the burden of proof is on you. But I understand if my joke about your flair went too far. Sorry if I offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:06 PM
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How about we talk less about me and my debate skills and revisit your actual point? Could you elaborate on the questions I posted earlier or provide census/polling data that backs up your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:50 PM
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I re-read my posts and I don't see where I ever attacked you; Only your position. You are accusing me of ad-hominem when your posts include things like: indicative of ineffective socialization And You felt the need to flex your (apparently currently malfunctioning) mental superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:32 PM
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Honestly. It was a light hearted attempt at humor. That said, I disagree with your initial claim and don’t think using the word “tend” makes you immune to accusations of over generalization. “Mexicans tend to be sleepy all the time.” Is still an improper generalization. We’d really have to revisit and clarify your initial statement if we’d want to actually have a good faith debate. For example, we’d have to know what country you live in, how you define Right/Left, what you mean by “stronger ones…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:18 PM
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I read and understood the word ‘tend’ in your previous statement. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:04 PM
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“This email is another reminder that it is against company policy to send sexually explicit messages or images to fellow coworkers using Slack or MS Teams. Regardless of consent”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:00 PM
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This gross generalization is ironic given your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:55 PM
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True but those jobs are typically staffed by certain demographics. Some combination of young, broke/poor, drunk, drugged, or dysfunctional. Those places are orgies because of the type of people they employ, not the work environment itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:30 PM
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I’d say no, the type of workplace doesn’t generally impact a guy’s options. The only exception is those retail/service industries where everyone is fucking one another. Like bars/restaurants or summer jobs for college students.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:22 PM
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Homeless women looks at my upscale apartment - “Am I allowed to come inside?” Me: “That depends… Am I allowed to cum inside too?” But in all seriousness, I haven’t heard of a hobosexual until this thread. Is this some peasant joke I’m too rich to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:12 PM
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Tyty!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:17 PM
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A while back I mentioned a big ass 3ft x 6ft canvas I got and my idea for a painting project. This is my progress as of a few days ago. Goddamn am I tired of mixing paint. But it’s coming out okay so far! https://imgur.com/a/ysyfA9O
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 02:01 PM
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This is a tough one because, when it’s a hypothetical Reddit scenario it’s easy for a guy to say he’d rather get the one date. But that’s because there isn’t any real emotional investment, when nothing is at stake. But people are unpredictable when it comes to rejection and I worry you’d end up fielding a lot of post-date bullshit and hostility from the guys you stop seeing. I’d recommend you kind of compromise between the two options. Most guys just want girls to give them the benefit of the do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:05 AM
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The French Toast, Waffles, or Pancakes debate was actually one of my most successful openers on Tinder!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:38 PM
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Yeah it’s funny how I pursued Philosophy in the hopes of finding truth and I came out with only more doubts. It’s been forever but I had a postgraduate class called the Philosophy of Science and that nearly broke me. Now I’m not even sure if I understand or believe in causation!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:19 PM
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Yeah it was probably better to describe it as “cracks are beginning to show in the Computational Theory of the Mind”. I got my BA in 07 so I’ve been out of the game for a while. The Chinese Room thought experiment became so influential because it was a great tool for debate. At least based on how often it’s talked about. Searle didn’t always make sense but to me he was one of the few modern thinkers who was willing to entertain some sort of Dualism. And I could never shrug off my bias towards co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:08 PM
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The stuff you are talking about is very much science fiction. Post humanism is trendy but often crumbles under real scrutiny. A person is more than just a hard drive. There are things beyond that which make a person an individual, like gut flora, sympathetic and parasympathetic systems, and hormones. Science doesn’t properly understand all of these systems but we know enough that a full body replacement would likely cause massive changes in personality/temperament and at worse: shock, mental ill…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:57 PM
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Like many guys, I was ‘friend zoned’ in high school and I never thought about it in the way you describe. I was friends with the girl because I was enamored by her. Being around her made me happy and gitty. I wanted a relationship not just to fuck. I’ll accept that most girls might know the term, but in my experience they can be quite blind when they themselves are doing it. Usually it’s just the naïveté of youth. But some cases are deliberate and manipulative. And regarding your point on friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:11 PM
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I'm curious, do older women fill younger girls in on this? In my experience, younger girls (16-22ish) are more likely to deny the existence of 'the friend zone'. Part of me believes its one of those ugly truths that girls are slow in acknowledging. The more resentful part of me thinks some girls continue to deny 'the friendzone' exists because they personally benefit from those types of relationships and don't want to jeopardize it. Or even worse, it could paint a picture where they are being ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:55 PM
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I'm not sure where you are pulling 'most men don't care' because issues with money/finances has a significant impact on the likelihood of divorce. I ended one of my relationships partially due to my ex's bad career choices, irresponsible spending, and significant debt. Maybe Men in the past didn't care. But this isn't generally true anymore. Shit is too expensive not to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:47 PM
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“Okay everyone make sure your body is found in the dab position”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 03:39 AM
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It’s probably shortsighted of me but I can’t help thinking Poly people are ‘broken’ in some way. I’ve only met one Poly couple and it was pretty clear how toxic it was, the guy was miserable and agreed just to hang on to the relationship. I’ve read similar stories where the genders are reversed so I don’t think it’s a Men Vs Women thing. That said, when someone mentions they are Poly I always end up thinking about what sort of early life trauma made them that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:23 PM
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This might be bullshit since I’m a guy but Catelyn Stark from A Song of Ice & Fire stands out to me. Not in the action hero sense, instead George R.R. Martin was able capture a character with a very ‘womanly’ kind of strength. Its impressive looking back and realizing that the series does not use any third party narration, each chapter is written entirely in first person perspective. I couldn’t imagine how difficult it would have been to write in such a challenging way but I think it helped Mart…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 12:25 AM
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“I call this piece ‘Throbbing shaft veins’”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:07 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:05 AM
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Got the referral and in-network provider stuff sorted out. Going to schedule it for after Thanksgiving
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:05 AM
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Appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:04 AM
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Hey well one man’s birdshit is another man’s art
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:29 AM
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3 Not the lowest point in my life but damn near. It’s bad enough that I need therapy. I go into more detail about what I’m dealing with in this thread. I had to leave my ideal living situation and bachelor lifestyle and move into my parent’s house to care for my mom. My career is great, I’m debt free and have 70k saved but none of that can make up for my lack of privacy and autonomy. I was not ready to be a caretaker for elderly/sick loved ones. Plus there was the pandemic and lockdown. Politica…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:26 AM
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My dad picked up a huge 3ft by 6ft canvas from an estate sale and wants me to paint it. I normally go for detailed/realism in my painting but it’s not practical for a canvas this big. I think I’m going to do something simple and abstract. Using this as a reference https://i.icanvas.com/VWO10?d=3&sh=h&s=s&p=1&bg=w&t=1635994775
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:01 AM
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Haha. In my story, attachment was very real. But only when I denied her of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:20 PM
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First I want to say that TRP and AWALT are wrong in most cases and really it only applies when looking at very damaged people with toxic interpersonal relationship skills. That said, my last girlfriend fit quite a few of the stereotypes that TRP use when talking about women. My ex had the most serve case of anxious attachment I’ve ever seen. Along with what I’d guess is undiagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder. We started as FWB. Not normally my thing but I wasn’t willing to commit to her due…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:09 AM
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What? There is tons of media that celebrates men getting laid. Granted, stuff directed to men doesn’t talk about the moral problems of infidelity and finding one’s personal happiness. And it’s not because we are any better than girls, we just don’t really give a shit about that stuff when it comes to fiction. We don’t want monologues about feelings and relationships. We want explosions and danger and to be like James Bond and get a new hot exotic chick each go around. It’s not just movies. So mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 07:46 AM
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It would have the opposite effect of what you are implying. If everyone was ‘genetically optimized’ then it ceases to be a valuable metric to compare two individuals with. Other avenues of competition would be formed for mate choice/determining fitness. Based of the current trajectory we are on, the metric that replaces it will be something way worse, like TikTok followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:00 AM
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It’s a lot like those memes that talk about adding all the upgrades to a ‘starter weapon’ in a video game lol. Yes, self improvement is a noble pursuit and will yield benefits. But you can only do so much. I think the lesson should be that it’s self destructive to focus too much time comparing yourself to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 01:05 AM
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Fair criticism on my source. A screenshot of a tweet isn't a very good source. But with all due respect, based on your response. I don't have the energy to debate you in good faith. We aren't going to agree anyways. So as is tradition, I shared a hot take tweet/meme that isn't for you. It's for the people who disagree with you and like me, don't have the energy to engage with you. Thankgiving relatives are coming you know. Have to save up my sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:08 PM
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I'll leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:37 PM
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People are entitled to their sexual preferences, but I think you are correlating things that aren't directly related to one another. (A consensual sexual act equating to a person's morals or quality of character.) Different positions work differently based on the equipment involved. People come in different shapes and sizes. Missionary VS Doggy isn't about virtues or personalities. I've had partners where we couldn't do doggy because I'd end up 'bottoming out' and it could be painful to her. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:25 PM
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Do you enjoy being around chatterboxes/talkative people? I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 7 years old, that was 30 years ago. And people tell me things like "You are the funniest person I've ever met, but god do you talk a lot." My girlfriends have all said they 'enjoy listening to me' as I ramble in bed to them about my Dungeons & Dragons game or the problems of consciousness and Property Dualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:55 PM
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LoL most commenters don’t understand the question and are like “I date hot girls with big tits.” That said, it is a tough question. For me, the only unintentional trend I can think of is that I always end up with elementary school teachers. I’ve had long term relationships with three different educators. No sure why! Maybe it’s because they are generally bookish while also being extroverted? Or it worked out because they were good at dealing with immature children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:23 PM
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I'm 37, which is old enough where I doubt I'm going to have women who follow FDS in my social circles. Maybe I'll go to Starbucks, ask the barista girl with a septum piercing, she looks like she hate me, the world, and herself equally. But in all seriousness, the only noticeable difference I can think of is that FDS women tend to be childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:41 PM
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For the person wanting more sex, it’s a rough conversation to bring up. As important as communication is, having the ‘talk’ about it could dredge up jealousy, insecurity, and resentment if the relationship has other problems. It shines a light on sex that really makes it transactional, a killer of romanticism and emotional connection. And the person wanting more sex doesn’t really have a good hand to play here. Sad and horny puppy dog? Pathetic. I’ve had it happen in two relationships. The first…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:47 PM
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That means a lot. And sorry to hear you've been through similar. And just being able to talk about it helped today. I've just wanted to scream out of frustration and agony at times. I haven't given myself the time to process what has happened, let alone structure a way to help me deal with future struggles. I'm sure talking to someone will help. Already getting stuff lined up through my employer. With COVID they have been really good about mental health resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:37 PM
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Thanks. No doubt, it has been by far the hardest thing I've had to do in my life. Add all the other insanity from the last two years made it difficult to even think about seeking help. That said, no better time to start than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:16 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, and I am sure my desire to have my 'old mom' back is destructive. Because that is simply impossible. I'm willing to sacrifice my own health if it means I can get her the best quality of life that is possible. It's only fair, she sacrificed a lot birthing and raising me. And it's not a constant nightmare. We still have good moments. I just need to be better at managing my expectations. Because when I see a glimmer of her old self, I still think "she's back". And that sort of wishful…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 04:08 PM
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Are you saying that I should just pay for in-home nursing? If so, I wish it were that simple. And money isn't an issue. My mom constantly refuses treatment due to confusion, exhaustion, or paranoia. She lies about taking her medications. Six months ago, we had to use power of attorney and the police to get her to agree to go to the ER. At that point she had lost 50% of her body weight and was sleeping less than an hour a day. The insomnia was causing full blown paranoid delusions. Shit is just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:29 PM
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Appreciate it stranger!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:05 PM
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I've accepted that I need therapy, or maybe a support group. I'm don't think I'm clinically depressed. I'm just not able to cope with the stress and sadness I feel trying to be a caretaker for my elderly parents. My mom is recovering from a series of strokes. I moved to Texas to help. Two months later COVID hit. My social life, autonomy, and peace of mind, gone! I was prepared to help her with her physical recovery, but nothing prepared me for the problems with emotional regulation and decision …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:34 PM
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I think of it more as; nearly all the ideas that are unique to the Red Pill are misogynistic. With a splash of random nonsense or inconsistent positions. Mostly which boil down to standard TradCon stuff. The rest is just rehashed PUA bullshit from the 90s or generic self help stuff that you’d thumb through at Barnes & Noble. If you want a better life and don’t buy into all the lady hate, then look to a community outside of TRP. Avoid wasting time ranting with the Bros online about how shitty wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 09:00 AM
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You asked a vague question in attempt to paint me into a corner. I gave you a more precise answer related to TRP specifically. Because answering your more broad/general question gives you more space to misrepresent my position. Enough of the games. You seem to think that TRP isn’t hateful because it isn’t composed entirely of hate. And we shouldn’t judge TRP by the most egregious examples of it. And I disagree. And I gave my reasons why in my previous comment. For Christ sake they even have an “…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:33 AM
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Its not a matter of ‘evil’. It is about testosterone. You see the same across the animal kingdom. More testosterone = more risk taking, anger, violence, and sexual deviancy. And these hormonal differences not only predispose men towards these acts, it makes us better at it! Stronger bones and better grip strength. In the past the world was a lot scarier and uglier and the more testosterone you had the better you’d be at carving out and protecting a little piece of this hellhole we call existence…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:58 AM
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I see the wall you are trying to back me into. And there isn’t a universal answer to your question. Because any blanket answer would be an over simplification. In the case of TRP, which is supposed to be a curated and moderated online community, yes. I judge them by their worse members. Especially when TRP mods and members make no attempts to curtail the radical and hateful viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:19 AM
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We define TRP by “what angry Reddit commenters think” because that’s literally all it is. Your comparison to religions is hilarious. TRP isn’t a religion with a dynamic and varied history/culture. It’s a bunch of angry nerds circle jerking on a message board lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:00 AM
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Oh shit, that’s not a good sound bite. Things get messy because it was common for work/writings to be misattributed or poorly translated. I’m not denying he said it; but I will counter that even if he did, Aristotle didn’t make sexism a cornerstone of his world view the way TRP does. And my point wasn’t that Aristotle is right and TRP is wrong, I just wanted to illustrate that most of the seemingly reasonable claims of TRP are actually ripped off from somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:54 AM
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This thread is sure to include dudes defending TRP with 'those guys are just in the anger phase' or 'it is a toolbox and you take out what is useful and ignore the rest.' The only good advice that TRP offers is generic and they didn't even come up with the ideas, they ripped it off from other places. Their advice about 'purpose' and self improvement is literally thousands of years old. And Aristotle explained it better, without the misogyny. The misogyny and anti-social behavior (Dark Triad, Dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 01:25 AM
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I think it depends on the intensity of their beliefs. Like RP men, the majority of the ladies on FDS are radicalized and drawn into an online echo chamber. I imagine most are relatively normal in real life and would mellow out if they stopped participating in toxic online spaces. That said, a girl who is completely indoctrinated to FDS would probably have a personality type which immediately clashes with mine. This is less about what she believes and more about how she came to believe it. Someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 07:01 PM
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I think most people don’t use the word appropriately or lack the emotional intelligence to identify what Love actually feels like. To me being “in love” requires these things: Being eager to share each other’s internal lives. Where being vulnerable with your partner is a strength. When a future together is a given. Life plans include your partner implicitly. You are a team. And finally, a more abstract one. But for me being in love requires a sense of “kinship”. Obviously romantic love is differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:46 AM
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Looking back at all the relationships I’ve been in, No, I haven’t been ‘in love’ before. Definitely experienced lust, limerence, attraction, jealousy, obsession, or one of the many emotions people mistake for being ‘in love.” Love with a capital L isn’t something I’ve felt outside of my immediate family or lifelong friends. It wasn’t for a lack of trying. I’ve told past girlfriends “I love you” and thought I believed it. Now that those relationships are over, I’m convinced that it was performati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 01:03 AM
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Ah, a rare Saltybet viewer? I also enjoy PLOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:01 AM
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I’m 10 and this is deep
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:00 AM
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The API could only pull your own personal data and those who swiped on you. So they couldn’t ever do comparative analysis between other men’s performance on the App
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:07 PM
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Several years ago, Tinder offered API services where people were able to pull their personal swipe data. Of course STEMlords built reports and put them online. https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/5pcxch/api\_users\_you\_can\_see\_the\_swipe\_rates\_on\_you\_and/ Based on what I see online, that isn't offered anymore. But I can only speculate on why Tinder pulled the feature. I remember from the posts I saw, that's where many got data showing generally women have a less then 5% swipe rate on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 02:52 PM
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"Form up Queens! Let's show these LVM how we get our glow up!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:20 PM
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That makes sense. I’ve been told that girls typically need to ‘feel sexy’ to want to have sex. And that involves lots of things, birth control aside. Thanks for your insight!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:38 PM
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Sure. What I meant was do girls think about the effects BC has on their libido when choosing which BC to try? Research generally shows that hormonal BC lowers sex drive. Obviously a bunch of other things contribute to libido but in my dating experience, with all things being equal, the type of BC the girl was on was a major indicator on how frequently she wanted sex. A few weeks ago this sub was talking about female orgasms and I wonder if those statistics are skewed due to the widespread use of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:05 PM
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For sure. And knowing that, in your experience is libido something girls weight heavily in their calculus? And am I wrong in my perceptions on how big of an impact it made on our sex lives? It seems like the girls I dated pick one type and stuck with it for years and years, one girl had the same BC since she hit puberty, for 10+ years, and she seemed blind to her withering sex drive. I know enough to know that switching can have impacts but is that the reason there isn’t a lot of experimentation…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:38 PM
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I’ve always wanted to know more about the different types of birth control and their effects on a woman’s libido. Relationships I’ve been in where the girl is on hormonal birth control had a tendency to fizzle out in the sex department. By 18 months, it’s like sex doesn’t even interest them. Then I’ve dated girls off BC or using a copper UID. And we actually had matching libidos for the entire relationship. It seems silly but I almost want to filter out girls on hormonal BC because of my percept…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:14 PM
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I am not disputing that men are way more likely to be the perpetrators and that we are generally bigger and more dangerous. I am talking about individual cases of assault. If that victim just happens to be a man abused by a woman, you don’t get to determine how that man should feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:33 AM
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When it comes to sexual assault, abuse, or harassment, judging it to “less harmful” to men, or to any group is just a bad take. You don’t get to make that determination for others. It’s toxic and short sighted. You might like masculinity but you don’t seem willing to see that men aren’t a monolith and that your attempts to hand wave abuse shows your blindness to the shared humanity between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:11 AM
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Though I agree with most of what you say. This comment along with some of your other responses in this thread make me feel that you are motivated by a resentment of men, and a borderline misandrist mindset. Now regarding your definition of harassment being based on the subjective physiological ‘impact’ is fundamentally flawed. We have to look at the act itself when judging the perpetrator. And use empathy when looking at the impact of the victim. And honestly it makes me think of people who use …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:34 AM
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None of those sound like deal breakers. There is value in seeking feedback and doing some self-reflection, but you're always going to find flaws if you look hard enough. Going 0-3 could just be due to a bad string of luck. There is plenty of games left in the season. Get out there and have a hot-girl-summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:12 AM
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I read your post and some of the comments and your responses. One thing that hasn’t been brought up is your family or circle of friends. Girls who I have dated but didn’t seriously commit typically had some incompatibility that could be ignored or mitigated while dating but became unavoidable if we were to move in together or get engaged. One had an extremely toxic relationship with her mother. Another had an obnoxious big hillbilly family. And finally one had kids and couldn’t cover up her conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:38 PM
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Like a Micheal Bay movie? I think the ladies here are asking for specifics from you. Since you stated they are passive and that 'enthusiasm' isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:40 PM
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Ah gotcha! I could give specifics but we'd be diving into lit-erotica. I'm eager to see if OP can give details too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:46 PM
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Yeah. I disagree it being black & white like that. Some positions are more active than others. But to your original comment, lots of things are ‘physically possible’, even when the women is in a more ‘passive’ position. It doesn’t have to be pornstar sex, but a girl who engages hips/core/legs even in missionary is that ‘enthusiasm’ guys are always talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:03 PM
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Women have hands, mouths, and hips. These can be active from any position. A girl who is good in bed will know the right way and rhythm so it complements what the guy is doing. Not every women who is in missionary is a ‘starfish’, so there’s things that can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:49 PM
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To that I would just say: In any relationship you’re bound to find problems if you search hard enough. But ‘searching for’ and ‘avoiding’ is usually self sabotage. It’s an unhealthy way to be spending your mental energy. Instead it’s about being strong enough to deal with whatever the relationship throws at you. Or having the sense of self to walk away when the time is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 07:50 AM
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I do. I’m not willing summarize my breakup in two bullet points right now. Your questions lead to follow up questions. And if my answers are going to be honest and insightful there’s backstory/context that I’d have to touch on. Maybe some other time sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 07:32 AM
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A little of column A. A little of column B. Her being dishonest about something prompted “the talk” about where our relationship was going. I was the one to explicitly say “This relationship is over”. There’s more to the story but I’m still mentally unpacking it all honestly. Maybe I’ll write more in a relevant post/comment in the sub soon. There’s definitely some relevant takeaways that could be interesting to the various Pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 12:40 AM
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I was relatively active here a year or two ago, until I got into a relationship. The girl and I split a few weeks ago. So I’m sure I’ll be back since this place is cathartic for me when it comes to the frustrations of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 11:46 PM
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Keep up the good work!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:36 PM
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I really don’t think I provided enough information for an arm chair diagnosis. And I kinda resent you describing her as mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:59 PM
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I agree that most people move on. But if you go to places like /r/UnsentLetters you will see that some people never do. Even after they’ve found someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:11 PM
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I eventually did the right thing. But I still think I let it go on for too long. I was lonely and really enjoyed my time with her. I took what she said at face value, knowing in the back of my mind that it was hurting her. I called her out several times and she reassured me that she had made peace with the limits and timer on our relationship. But that was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:00 PM
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I don’t know if i alpha widowed her but I called things off with a girl I was sleeping with who was deeply in love with me. She was under my thumb, I could do no wrong, she bent over backwards to get a chance to see me, even when I offered no commitment and was upfront about my upcoming move out of state. I had to end it because her facade was beginning to crumble. It was obvious how much the situationship was hurting her. Also, the power dynamics where way too lopsided. I want someone to conten…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:42 PM
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I hear you. In those cases you just got to move on. It took me a long time to figure it out. My high school and early college years where defined by having ‘oneitis’ for a girl. Establishing a friendship with them, dragging it out because I was a coward, and then confessing my ‘fee fees’ to them. It always resulted in rejection. You have to establish that you are a sexual/romantic option from the get-go
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:06 AM
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What I mean to say is the build up can be rewarding and you don’t need to worry about being in the friend zone/squandering the time/money investment so long as you establish that you are pursuing a sexual/romantic relationship with them. And there are ways to do that well before insertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:51 AM
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I’m a guy and the good stuff starts way before sex. What happened to building up sexual tension? I’ve had my far share of drunken hookups. The sex was memorable in one of those cases. The rest were either standard fare or quite horrible. But actually dating a hot girl? Running into her on campus and spending days thinking about those intense moments where you locked eyes? The giddiness of finally breaking the ice and getting her number? Seeing her in that dress on the 2nd date? Her playing foots…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:24 AM
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Push comes to shove and us dudes can start pairing off. Ones with the fewest upvotes gotta be bottoms
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:17 PM
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Fuck yeah. No one commanded the English language like he did. He is probably the most influential person in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:15 PM
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I am a modern man. A man for the millennium. Digital and smoke free. A diversified multi-cultural, post-modern deconstructionist. Politically, anatomically and ecologically incorrect. I've been up linked and downloaded. I've been inputted and outsourced. I know the upside of downsizing. I know the downside of upgrading. I'm a high-tech low-life. A cutting edge state-of-the-art. Bi-coastal Multi-tasker and I can give you a gigabyte in a nanosecond. I'm new wave, but I'm old school. And my inner c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:27 PM
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Hey I’m just speaking from experience. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:30 AM
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Really there are way more factors than just age but Mid 20s to early 30s is the best range in general. Any younger and it’s common for girls to lack confidence and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:18 AM
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You don’t seem all that bad. But just check out all the other threads, there are literally guys just following female posters just to harass them whenever they comment on a thread. It’s just unrelatedly spam. It’s tolerable during purge but this place would die out if we gave the incels, racists, and edgelords free reign. Yeah mods might be over correcting from time to time but it’s worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:01 AM
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Sure, if you wanna straw man me into it. It’s a debate sub. There’s plenty of internet for those who just want to freely throw around slurs and insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:55 AM
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I don’t know. The thing is, the mods on PPD are way more lenient that other subs. But they enforce enough rules to where most people get a voice. If you just let it be a free-for-all, very few women, minorities, or moderate voices would post because they’d just get brigand by a bunch of edgy assholes trying to get a rise out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:50 AM
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This is my 3rd Purge and it was much like the last ones. I’ve been on the internet since I was ten in the Mid-90s and anonymous unmoderated message boards never change really. The majority will be boys ages 10-16 shit posting for shock value. Some of those boys never really grow out of it and become full fledged bigots and basement dwellers. It’s fun for a bit and helps people develop a thicker skin. But these days privacy is basically impossible so you can never trust that some psycho isn’t goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:17 AM
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That’s funny. I’ve DMed and played in several groups. Each group had the token girl but never more than that. Which is a shame really but that’s how it seemed to shake out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:09 AM
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Girl social dynamics seem savage. Let’s say you have to go to a social gathering with a bunch of strangers. Do you size the girls up based on looks at all? Or is it all based on vibe/personality? I’ve often seen women say “She seems stuck up.” When meeting a very attractive girl. Other times, they try to be besties. I never understood the mechanics going on behind the scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:37 AM
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How did you respond? Calling them out and saying they are threatened by your looks is going to come off vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:05 AM
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How old were they? Were you tempted to call them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:36 AM
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It’s interesting how teenagers/young adults tend to organize themselves by attraction level. Even guys do it. And then there are models, who are in a category in their own and could feel a sense of isolation from it. But after college people stop giving a shit and build their social networks based more on class and interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 02:32 AM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/GV3aYiEP8qbao/giphy-facebook_s.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 01:19 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:41 AM
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I keep an open mind and find lots of stuff attractive but things that stick out in my mind as unconventional are: A lower pitched voice on a woman can be hot. Overbite/bucked teeth is cute. Lanky/long limbed/flat chested works for me, the THICC girls are good too but overhyped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:33 PM
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Missionary only. And I apologize after.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:57 PM
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Product Specialist for a Tech company. I like the industry but I really like to get into NetOPS, specifically for Mitigation. Defending against DDOS attacks is or should be at the top of mind for corporations and governments. It can potentially cripple a company at a critical movement or even disrupt an election. People in the field make good money now and it’s only going to increase in value. Plus it’s exciting, NOC is like a War Room.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:10 PM
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You do you. But I wouldn't recommend busting out proverbs on the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:23 AM
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Stuff used to be real high effort, like with peer reviewed papers cited. I check the threads here every week still, but its rare that something grabs my interest now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:58 AM
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Bah, I'd much rather just know the individual, everyone is different. I've met women that are pretty reserved about the who-ha. Seems like the FDS girls came up with all of those rules just as a way to quantify power dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:55 AM
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Much like flies around a horse's ass, they are tolerated and occasionally swatted away. I'm not a fan of either Red or Black pills. FDS is funny in that it taunts and aggravates some of the stupider people but its kinda run it's course and is boring now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:39 AM
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Honestly, I haven't browsed here much in the last 6 months or so. Quality has dropped quite a bit. Even before purge week. Likely due to a slow trickle of Users from the quarantined subreddits like TheDonald/Redpill. But it used to be a good place for people to really give honest opinions/ raw experiences about dating/relationships. Now it's mostly just toxic FDS girls and RP guys bickering like they are on Springer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:16 AM
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See this is a trap. Most guys here are going to post some humble-brag not realizing that autonomously posting about how awesome of a guy they are is actually weak AF. Girls are not going to be wooed by it, even if you write like Shakespeare. Bragging autonomously online is actually a tell tale sign of insecurity. But I already knew this because I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:00 AM
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"Really shows you the power of keeping frame."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:12 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Instagramreality/comments/evddx1/this_girl_and_her_demon_eyed_family_keeps_popping/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf /r/instagramreality is a treasure trove of examples. Or just download Tinder. The overuse of filters on dating sites can get pretty extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:31 PM
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Yeah you’re barking up the wrong tree. Not interested. I was just commenting here during a bathroom break at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:27 PM
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Debate what? This thread isn’t about who can win in a debate between you and I. Seems like my initial point upset you and now you feel compelled to ‘beat me’. There’s a time, place, and thread to discuss all the various topics. Pick one and make your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:19 PM
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Eh, the Mormons who go door to door trying to convert people use a similar line. They are always open to debate. It doesn’t change the fact that the believe in false doctrines. If you see my comments on any post here feel free to challenge the individual points I make. But, I’m not about to thrown down and talk through everything right here and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:09 PM
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7/10 8/10 (with rice) As a decent looking, in-shape, 5’10, white guy I occasionally turn heads. All my past partners have been conventionally attractive but nothing in the bombshell/Goddess tier. I can’t get behind most of the RP ideas. Most of it is just pseudoscientific hate speech against women. Any of the actual useful advice/practical knowledge that RP offers was stolen/adapted from other sources. The only thing I agree with RP on is that the SMP/RMP is changing, trad-con relationships of o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:16 PM
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Yes! Specifically masturbating using video ‘hub’ sites. Where you can scroll through endless lists of videos. Satisfying any interest or taste. The novelty never ends, your brain keeps you chasing for ‘that one video’ ‘the golden nugget’. Shits bad for you. I weened myself off on it. And noticed a pretty big difference after 1-2 months. If your interested I’d check out videos like this which go into more detail on some of the science that is emerging around porn and the brain. https://youtu.be/7…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:53 PM
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No. You misunderstand. I still masterbate. Just no porn. You seem to be conflating porn with sexual release.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:40 PM
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It’s about conditioning. For example, I was less likely to check girls out IRL because my brain was hardwired to only respond to a certain type of visual stimulation that I got through porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:09 PM
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Lots of men here are downplaying the effect porn has on libido. With unlimited high speed on-demand videos at our fingertips, men have the ability to straight up SLAM the reward centers in their brain with dopamine for extended periods of time. I gave up most porn once I noticed how it was affecting my sex life. It was killing my sex drive. My body started to only respond to porn and not girls I saw in real life. It didn’t make me view women or sex any differently, it just sapped all my sexual e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:57 PM
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I’m 35. It is ‘shit or get off the pot’ for me at this point. After watching two of my brothers get married and have kids, I’ve been reconsidering if it’s something I actually want. I’ve seen first hand how child rearing can effect a person and their relationships. Both of them describe the ‘rewards’ of marriage and children in the same way a Paraplegic motivational speaker describes how ‘the accident’ has made them stronger. They are dealing with toddlers and infants so I’m sure it’ll get bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 04:13 AM
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I got called a handsome teacher in the picture thread and farmed Karma with my memes. It was fun but I’m glad it’s over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 01:03 AM
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Who uses their hands to masterbate these days? My modified Waifu body pillow is a ‘hands free’ device.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 12:05 AM
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I don’t think this one is going to take off like my others. I guess Incel memes are like the people: losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:32 AM
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You don’t need to send me sources. I’m just making fun of the shitty computer rendering they used.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:23 AM
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Pretty sure this is a Sims character and not a real person. You need to lay off the computer games.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 02:20 AM
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Thanks. People deal with loss in weird ways. I’m sure my anger and disgust towards much of the Red Pill community isn’t healthy. But I thought this meme was apt. Maybe it’ll shame some kid to look away from the Dark Side.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:12 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d72mw3/how_has_your_time_on_ppd_affected_your_view_of/f0xc0su/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I encourage you to read this, a comment I made about how and why I found the RedPill. I agree that many in RP are mentally ill. But I don’t think sheltering them from the reality of their toxic beliefs is helping. Also, it’s just a meme
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:55 PM
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I agree that the ladies on PPD are less triggered by this than most subreddits. Just the meme image I found was too good not to use for a shit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 02:02 PM
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lol gottem
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:35 PM
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ARPALT
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 09:12 AM
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They are writing their field reports in between Overwatch matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:21 AM
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Or you embrace both the success and failure of social interactions with an organic and genuine enthusiasm instead of an ulterior motive that you plan on posting to a cringey male power fantasy forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 01:04 AM
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I’ve definitely noticed how hormonal BC has had a dampening effect on the libido of my past sexual partners. The most consistent and fiery sex I had was with a girl who had a copper IUD. I know hormonal BC can help with periods, but goddamn if it doesn’t feel like a harbinger of a dead bedroom. And I know guys have it easy when it comes to BC. Condoms are always an option but they are a bummer. And I trust my pull-out game about as much as the US military in the Middle East. Bah! Just why did Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:23 AM
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I love these interactive memes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:31 PM
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I wonder if a clever lawyer could stretch the definition of ‘cognitively impaired’ to cover temporary states of mind. For example, a non-impaired man is so horny that it impairs his judgement making him unable to understand consent. The old adage ‘Think with your head and not your dick’ is oft repeated. It’s often recommended that guys masterbate before making some big decision regarding a girl (Like contacting an Ex), touting the ‘post-nut clarity’ it provides. Sexual Libido and the associated …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 11:53 AM
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One of my friends joked “Transgender is the new Goth”. Probably insensitive and inaccurate but it did make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 05:50 PM
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That’s good that you’ve found someone that presses the right buttons. But you said yourself, “I wanted sex badly, but it was painful and boring.” Which makes you different that OP, who makes no mention of the quality of the sex. (Another sign that points towards asexuality.) It could be that she just needs the right person to flip the switch and get her interested in sex but it sounds to me that it’s not that the sex is bad, it’s just sex, which doesn’t interest her all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 05:26 AM
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I would search in conservative circles. Like others have mentioned, church would be a good place to start. I would also refrain from saying too much or being super specific early on. If a girl I was seeing explained all this to me, I would feel like she was projecting her entire life-plan and value system onto me. Breaking it down into all these checklists is intense and speaks towards an obsessive, anxious, and risk adverse mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 10:03 PM
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Men, can you really love a woman if she’s not having sex with you? No. Without sex, desire, and intimacy we may as well be roommates. Sex isn’t just about the guy getting his rocks off, it’s also affirmation of the bond and validation to him as a sexual being. I mean I ‘love’ some of my female friends and family but it doesn’t sound like that is what you are asking. I don’t want to seem judgmental but based on this post OP, it sounds like you are treating sex like a currency. To be dolled out in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:44 PM
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Thanks. And not really no. He was just... sick. His problems weren’t philosophical. He had some breaking point in college where he had some psychotic paranoid meltdown. He went to the college administration claiming two black students were stalking him and planning to kill him. There was no evidence for this, in fact most of the text conversations and witness accounts just showed my cousin was an unstable and aggressive asshole who instigated much of it because of a girl. After that he moved bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:15 AM
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I’ve learned a good bit about women here. It hasn’t made my perceptions of them any more positive/negative, just more nuanced. My discovery of all this ‘Pill’ bullshit started as a way to understand my cousin’s suicide. The last couple times I saw him, he mentioned some stuff about “The Red Pill & The Black Pill” and how it had opened his eyes. College wasn’t good to him, he was abusing amphetamines and Xanax. He got expelled and threw himself in front of a train shortly after. I went to RedPill…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:06 AM
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Regarding my employer, the policy itself is one thing, it’s the inability to talk about it due to the fear of being portrayed as another James Damore The social media example I can agree on. I just need to be the bigger person and move on. And my last example, yes I could have stood up for myself and challenged her position. But, there was no changing her mind and the likelihood of me being depicted as the typical white guy ‘mansplaining’ something isn’t worth it. So I just keep my mouth shut an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:13 PM
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I work at a large ‘woke’ tech company. It’s certainly present there. Along with Affirmative Action-like gender quotas. I think it’s important to ‘break up the boy’s club’ in the industry but I really wish they’d do this by providing support and encouragement to women wanting to break into these fields, instead of just setting and enforcing a quota. There was a ‘Re-Org’ about 5 years ago at work and a new lucrative department opened up. I, along with around 40 men applied, and 10 women. 6 of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 10:13 AM
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I imagine it varies based on geography, socioeconomics, and peer groups. Generally, the Deep South and Bible Belt hasn’t really changed too much. Maybe disdain and bewilderment towards much of the Media. Drugs, lack of work, and stagnating wages are definitely taking a toll on these areas though. People are just packing up and moving to the city. The Coasts and large suburban/metropolitan areas are were things have really changed in the last ten years. Both the status quo and the new ‘woke’ ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 05:13 AM
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Sure. It can work. Assuming that both are open and engaged with the process. But is it fair for me to say that some women ‘need more’ than others? And that it’s okay for me to prefer the girl where ‘it just works’? I love when girls communicate what works and what they like but if a particular girl has a huge checklist, I gotta be honest and admit I’d rather be with someone with less demands. It feels like there’s chemistry and compatibility when you both rock each other’s worlds right off the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 01:16 AM
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Well, I agree that everyone would be better off if they were more attentive. But I think the orgasm gap isn’t about men doing less, it’s about women requiring more to be done. I don’t want that to sound negative though, it’s something worth working towards, and as much to do with how easy the male orgasm is as how elusive the female orgasm can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:46 PM
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That’s a fair point. I don’t think we’d ever come to an agreement on this but, men, especially early on do everything they can NOT to immediately orgasm during PIV. This independent of what techniques and attention the girl is paying us. Early in my career I had girls do a ‘special move’ and welp, party was over quick. The benchmark for the male orgasm isn’t terribly high. Women can get us there while also having very subpar skills. For non-PIV stuff, I’ll give credit where credit is due. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:30 PM
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Though I agree that men aren’t just suddenly dynamite in bed out of pure instinct, but the same can be said about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:09 PM
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An acute case of ADHD which is still prominent into my 30s. Occasional bouts of Mania. Addictive personality. Lingering Anti Social Personality Disorder. (Luckily I got most of this addressed when I was a teenager) Beyond that I’m golden. And I think my positive traits outweigh all my negatives. Thank God I had good parents and got the support I needed early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 08:27 PM
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Never. Even on their own. But I can’t claim to be an expert. I’m just sharing that data.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 08:10 PM
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Sorry I wasn’t trying to really dispute your point. Just providing some data I found on it. I guess I do wonder if you think these women are then obligated to be upfront with their partner about the issue? I know I would be turned off if a girl I was seeing admitted this. I feel like it would mess with compatibility down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 08:08 PM
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https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/sex-study-female-orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289 10-15% of women claim they cannot orgasm under any circumstances. More than 1 in 10. That’s not a insignificant number.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 07:52 PM
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🤣FML I got it right everywhere except the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 06:07 PM
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Playing with yourself in the corner is masterbation though, not sex. Men get shamed plenty for their reliance on masterbation. (Iron grip, porn addiction, etc) It takes two to tango. This discussion is more about if all things being equal, if a women struggles with orgasm, libido, or enthusiasm, is she just ‘bad at sex’?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 06:06 PM
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Based on the responses I think OP is too entrenched and out of touch to truly have their view changed. They want to stop hearing about Tinder excuses because they don’t really have the lived experience to relate to the discussions surrounding the App and the effect it has had on dating. Firstly, the claim that it is primarily used for hookups is ridiculous and based on perceptions 5+ years out of date. Tinder has over 50 million users in the US and 35% of internet users between 18 and 24 used th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 07:29 AM
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I never told you how to live. I just told you what your behavior/ideas look like to an outsider. WTF. “If you’re not helping with that (by fucking), then you’re just being annoying” Maybe Saudi Arabia would be a good place for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 11:01 PM
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“Don’t invite yourself over unless you sleep with me” How is that not a covert contract? You are basically saying “if you come over, you are obligated to smash”. Are men and women not allowed to be alone together? Maybe in Saudi Arabia. Western men shouldn’t hold onto these sorts of ideas. It’s not a good look, just makes you look controlling and overly thirsty/desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:37 PM
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Unless she says “I’m coming over, let’s fuck”, then no. Even then, she can back out at any time. Enough with the covert contracts. Regardless of the steps involved, no one is obligated to put out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:10 PM
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Women are people and people are full of shit. Most of us partake in self-delusion for the sake of baser instincts and desires. The mental gymnastics really come out when alcohol is involved. That said, no one is ever obligated to sleep with you. The last girl I brought home was VERY forward. We went back to my place to smoke some pot. She stops me after we kiss. ‘I can’t, I’m married’. Then proceeds to burst into tears. Her legs were still wrapped around me, writhing. She was crying with guilt w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:01 PM
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Humans are political. So I guess I have to engage in politics in that I obey rules and pay taxes. It’s not like I’m living on some prepper’s compound. Yet I still avoid politics, it doesn’t occupy my mind whatsoever. I just don’t watch TV or participate in discussions. I don’t care about shaping or changing the rules, I just try to get ahead based on the rules in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 08:47 PM
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I hate politics. I have no opinion on policy. I’m 35 and have never voted. Politicians don’t even read the bills they pass and I’m supposed to make a reasoned and moral decision on this stuff? Sounds like a huge waste of time. I’m too busy taking care of what’s in front of me. I’d rather focus on my career, health, and being good to my friends and family. Discussing politics tends to be bad for all of that. Maybe when tanks roll into town I’ll start paying attention but for now I can’t be bother…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 08:41 PM
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For sure. I’m no economist so I’m just spitballing. They won’t ‘contribute’ really, it’ll be more like when the Gov’t gives a tax credit to stimulate the economy. Just moving money around. Maybe ‘participate’ would be a more accurate word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:34 PM
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Something like Universal Basic Income will give them purchasing power and at least allow them to contribute as consumers. But really that’s about it. Society will have to come to grips with the fact that a percentage of people will be economic ‘dead weight’.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 12:51 PM
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https://www.apnews.com/4997bb7aa36c45449b488e19ac83e86d
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:24 AM
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The poor will. They’ll be at a huge disadvantage. Designer babies will be genetically healthier, smarter, and less prone to issues with physical and mental health. Automation and Globalization are steadily whittling away at jobs. Only the most productive will have promising employment opportunities. It’s already happening, there’s an IQ threshold nowadays to even be useful. The US military won’t take people with sub 90 IQs. Having those people would literally be detrimental to the organization. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:13 AM
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The future promises to get even weirder. Designer babies using CRISPR technology, gene therapy/replacement, and post-humanist bio-hacking. Eugenics. China has already admitted to altering a humans genome not for therapeutic reasons, instead it was to ‘improve’. Of course only the wealthy will have access, further increasing the disparity between classes. If you have the means, who wouldn’t want to give their kids the best shot at success? I might actually get the ‘Bladerunner’ dystopian future I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:49 AM
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Tinder/Hinge now allow looping ‘boomerang’ videos. They are only 3-5 seconds long. No audio. I’ve added a few and there was a small but noticeable increase in matches. Still, I do wish these apps would improve in showing how big of a badass I am. It’s still an uphill battle. But this is the future of dating, I try not to let it hurt my feelings and just have fun with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:38 PM
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I find it odd that so many here give a strong ‘no’ but provide no reason as to why beyond ‘tradition’. If she wants to hyphenate her last name or stray from patriarchal traditions, why not take a knee?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 04:31 AM
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There is an incredibly insightful post on how men provide emotional support to one another without 'opening up' and how it is often seen as counter-intuitive to women or more sensitive men. /u/Gizortnik eloquently explains why men are assholes to each other It is an act of bonding between people who have established each other's boundaries and are willing to play. For example. Let's take a group of male friends playing a card game at a table. Male B is bald, Male F is fat, and Male U is ugly. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:15 PM
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There’s a good looking guy that’s always available to give me a hand job. Me. Straight guys are straight. I don’t see other men in a sexual light whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:30 AM
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We don’t understand all the covert contracts. We don’t understand the how and why women form friendships or grudges with other women. We have vague ideas that women will socially broadcast their ‘bff’ or will be ‘catty’ to one another but are completely lost when it comes to what drives all these behaviors. We struggle to understand how women form or break peer groups. I’ve legit had my Ex try to explain to me why she no longer talks to her previous ‘bestie’ and the conversation filled an entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 07:19 AM
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Not the OP but I think they mean that technology has amplified the ‘yes/no’ feedback people send and receive to one another. The feigned indifference people adopt is used to taper or create distance since there is so little privacy these days
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:32 PM
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The whole ‘proper’ this is a norm enforced and perpetuated by women, not men. Men are people too and like being praised and sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:01 PM
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It isn’t an option because the man has already said ‘yes’ by initiating. Our statement of interest is laid bare. And the women had the option to say yes or no. Some men have several girls openly showing interest to them without the need for the guy to initiate and constantly escalate/follow up. Some men, but definitely not ‘most’
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:44 PM
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What I’m trying to say is if men have to be the one to approach, we don’t have options, we ARE the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:25 PM
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I think the reason so many here are disputing your claims is because it comes off as intellectually dishonest. You still haven’t addressed my point about how the burden of approach effects one’s perception of ‘options’. Most people see ‘options’ as a set array of things placed in front of you, from which you have the privilege to select based on preference. The way you are framing it, having to approach at the risk of rejection isn’t important, when it absolutely is. Who has more ‘options’, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:11 PM
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Well I guess I’m just sympathetic towards guys who have to make the approach. It’s only an ‘option’ if we shoot our shot and present ourselves as a romantic option (Lest we get banished to the dreaded ‘friendzone’). I have a buddy who grew up in a shit household. His father destroyed his confidence and his mother manipulated him with affection. Both were drunks. It would take him MONTHS to recover from a rejection. He’s not a bad looking guy, but I promise you, he didn’t feel like he had options…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 01:35 PM
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With this is mind, how often should the guy be willing to be rejected? The onus is on us to initiate, most single girls I know just passively have several guys attempting to court them. Literally have a coworker that broke up with her boyfriend a few weeks ago and men are coming out of the woodwork trying to date her. It only took a few days before she started getting messages from guys on social media. In my experience this isn’t true for most men, we have to be constantly cultivating our optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 12:33 PM
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most men “have options” lol. Could you clarify what you mean by this? Because if you imagine that most guys have single equally attractive girls who will flirt and readily respond to texts, I think you are mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 12:19 PM
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As a guy, oneitis absolutely destroyed my dating prospects when I was younger. I wasted years chasing a one particular girl at a time. I’ve ONLY been able to effectively meet and date women when I’m talking/seeing 2 or more, bonus points if the girls have a vague idea of the other women in your life. Many girls might drop you because they are too sensitive to compete for your attention, the rest will CLAIM to hate it but they keep coming back for more. Dating nowadays is a competition on who car…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:41 AM
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I posted about this a while back. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8nen7e/evolutionary_psychology_female_choosiness_in_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ios_share_flow_optimization&utm_term=control_2 The mating strategy we see in humans has common threads with much of the animal kingdom and that is: males compete and females choose. Granted, humanity is quite a bit more complex but the saying ‘A girl is a prize to be won’ isn’t surprising when you go to where the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 06:01 PM
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The question is a bit too nebulous to answer appropriately so I’ll break it down a bit. I’ll know if I’m physically attracted to someone within a minute. It’ll take 5-10 minutes of flirting for me to know if she is fun, charismatic, and intelligent. It’ll take a few weeks before I’d know enough about her lifestyle, habits, and temperament to commit to monogamous dating. It will take a few months to learn enough about her family, upbringing, and personal ideologies or idiosyncrasies to commit to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:47 PM
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That makes sense. You speak from experience so I’ll defer to you on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:26 AM
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If it launched from MS DOS it counts. I am a God at Scorched Earth. Never played Betrayal at Krondor but I think I have it on my Raspberry Pi
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:24 AM
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Hell if I know. 7 or 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:19 AM
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5’10
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:05 AM
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One very simple thing you missed: People will generally date within their social circle. Celebrities run with the most attractive women in the world. I bet it’s like impossible to find unattractive people to meet if you’re a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:45 AM
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I don’t disagree and can try to empathize. There’s always winners and losers. I’m in a privileged position compared to many, I still haven’t quite figured out how to intellectually incorporate that into my worldview. It’s not like I’m going to maim my face to level the playing field, and me feeling guilty about it doesn’t do you any good. But one thing I will say, halo-effect aside, charisma can mean a lot too. Those dumb surveys online keep telling me I’m an ENTJ so that might have something to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:29 AM
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I didn’t get this sort of attention without making a bunch of mistakes and using great deal of effort to overcome those mistakes. I got attention in high school but was a bundle of nerves. Girls scared the shit out of me and I fumbled and fucked up pretty much every reaction. It’s a special type of hell to have girls approach you and you kill interest within seconds because you’re so goddamn awkward. I was a fat depressed stoner piece of shit for most of my twenties. Then after getting out of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:34 PM
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I’m sure lol. Not only is 21 too young, she also acted her age. She seemed super awkward and inexperienced, probably a virgin. I’ll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:03 PM
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Reddit would have you believe that ‘the FEEEEmales’ always take a passive role and never initiate but it hasn’t been my experience. What did she say/do to make you think she was seeking you out? If you’ve never spoken to them they will try to change that by ‘bumping into you’. They will walk by your desk, talk to people around you, and the bold ones will even be willing to break the ice and introduce themselves. If a girl you actually know likes you they will usually act giddy, laugh at everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:32 PM
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I live in a small midwestern city of around 100,000 so there would be large chunks of time where there was no one to swipe on. I never even used up all my daily swipes. I noticed a big difference when I spent a weekend in Chicago. I got like a months worth of matches in two days. I’m kind of picky too. I only swiped on girls I actually wanted to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:30 PM
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The whole 1-10 rating is kinda fucked but I occasionally turn heads. I’d say 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:13 PM
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I’ve talked to female friends and even my Tinder dates about this. Most just seem puzzled and overwhelmed by the amount of attention they get through the app. It doesn’t seem to be this big ego boost like many men claim. It stresses them TF out if anything. That’s because generic and impersonal attention from men on these apps is basically worthless. Women get flooded with notifications without any real effort on their part and it doesn’t really put a chip on their shoulder, it just makes them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:18 PM
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Call me crazy, but I’d like to share my life’s milestones with someone who hasn’t already gone through it before. Having kids or a previous marriage isn’t at 100% dealbreaker but it’s absolutely a negative aspect that I’d be compromising on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:43 PM
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Thanks for the honest and sobering reply. You paint your perspective vividly and I can relate. I have similar doubts. It can happen, my parents made it work. I admire them for it. I’d like to settle down with someone but christ, with all the expectations you mention, it just seems like so much to sign up for when there are so many unknowns. I guess I’m afraid on making mistakes, if I do ever get married, I want it to be once.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:37 AM
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If it’s not too personal, why don’t you think it’s workable? I will admit my question here and general posting on the subreddit is due to some soul searching on my part. I just got out of a casual relationship. I Just COULDN’T commit to her due to all the stuff in her life. She was taking care of her two kids and her disabled mother. She was also intelligent, beautiful, and crazy about me. But I knew she had no space in her life for a committed relationship. And least not without massive sacrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:09 AM
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I guess I can understand that. My FWB situation ended because I called out her dishonesty. I could see her facade deteriorating and it made me feel like shit. I thought she and I were on the same page. But she likely thought she could covertly get me to fall for her So I guess we were both shitty people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:23 PM
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It does. But peer groups have all those same effects. When you say "who you see', I imagine that means emotional/sexual monogamy, which is quite common in casual relationships. Just a lot of these responses here seem to mean 'commit towards a preconceived path of increased and increasing levels of commitment, then eventually marriage' And that is quite a bit to sign up for. Can't we all be realistic and accept that most people aren't 100% 'in' from the git-go?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:01 PM
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I would disagree with your second point. 'Casual' is often called a 'Friends with benefits'. I feel obligations to my friends deeply. I still want to be a good friend. I answer their questions honestly, I give and take advice, and I care about their well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:31 PM
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Now, I imagine the level of commitment has to be evenly paced right? If a committed relationship has a 'destination', you don't want someone to just offer marriage right off the bat right? (Even though that's the destination) I KNOW I have a fear of commitment, but as a guy, part of the reason is I have no idea what I'm signing up for when I commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:25 PM
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Okay yep! Thank makes sense to me. I find that couples that spam my Facebook feed with 'cute couple pics' are usually on thin ice. And one of them is 'broadcasting' as some social powerplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:18 PM
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But that’s the thing, there is NEVER an obligation to continue the dynamic. People can always leave. It seems like the initial commitment that moves it from casual to committed is just one step. But it’s still something that either party can just walk away from
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:13 PM
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I’m curious as to the power of the second part. Why is it important that it’s broadcast socially?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:10 PM
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Y tho? As I said, I was upfront and so was she. She claimed she wasn’t ready to jump into something serious as well. I’ve known girls that have sought a FWB situation in some point of their life. Just because I didn’t want to wife her up doesn’t mean I didn’t value her. Just she had stuff in her life that I couldn’t commit to in that way. Had nothing to do with a lack of attraction or compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:35 PM
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I don't know man, it sounds like you think you're playing with a losing hand and girls are picking up on it. Beseech to the heavens all you want. The Gods won't answer thee. The world ain't fair so gotta just make the most of it. Just because girls on Tinder are privileged doesn't mean you have to abandon your standards. Stop belly aching and enforce those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 04:46 PM
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Then why talk to the girl? What happened to the ‘abundance mentality’? When I’m on Tinder I just unmatch any girls who suck at banter. Flirting with girls can be tons of fun. I enjoy it even when I'm not looking to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 01:45 PM
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Both. Along with all the other factors surrounding the relationship. Job, kids, living situation, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:57 PM
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I just ended my first FWB. It lasted 6 months before she finally admitted she caught the ‘Fee-Fees’. I was upfront the whole time but I still felt pretty shitty about the ‘situationship’. I was keeping it casual because I could avoid all hurt or damage to my ego when it ended. I didn’t like her enough to be invested. So one component of this is that she was hot enough to ‘easily let go of’. If she were a better match then I likely wouldn’t have been able to escape her gravitational pull. I was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 03:35 PM
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My feelings on this are somewhere between you and Salty Bastard. Sex with a women ‘unlocks’ a certain quality of social/emotional validation that cannot be found elsewhere. A good example of this is scent. The type of yearning brought from the scent of a partner really doesn’t have an analog in my experience. “You and me baby ain’t nothing but mammals”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 04:18 AM
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Well I just see it as pseudoscientific bullshit. Kookie spiritual women cling to ideologies like ‘the law of attraction’ I see this crap as the male equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:01 PM
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I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m just saying the ‘rule’ you posted is a gross oversimplification and total bullshit. Human behavior isn’t some engineering problem. We can’t assign concrete values to ‘power’ and ‘need’ so they aren’t very useful if we are trying to model or systematize human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 02:58 PM
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It’s not about ‘moralizing’ so much as me pointing out that the truism is non-intelligible once you really drill down on what it’s trying to say. ‘Need’ and ‘power’ are subjective and the idea that there is some shared and mutually understood value that can be used to predict or justify behavior is nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 02:31 PM
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PERCEIVED power balances and ideas about ‘need’ certainly effect relationships, but these things are subjective, we fucking making em up. So the whole idea that an outside observer could use their DBZ scouter and compare ‘power levels’ is just silly to me. So why would I attempt to use such information to guide my behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 01:06 PM
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But we are talking about folk psychology and human sentiment here and not engineering. The whole concept of ‘human social power’ being some quantifiable and measurable number is false. That’s why the statement is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 12:57 PM
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False. This is one of those truisms that seems like it tells us something useful and profound when it actually says very little. I’m not even sure how the rule has any practical applications. Most people aren’t sociopaths who think about power hierarchies when deciding if they should send a double-text or do the dishes two nights in a row. Who honestly thinks about power levels? Do I need a Dragonball Z Scouter?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 12:26 PM
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Sexual Market Place & Relationship Market Place
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 11:04 AM
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This sort of delusion wasn’t possible in the past or in many cultures currently. But the drive towards acceptance and the high stakes of social media outrage has made it impossible for people to give honest feedback to people. “Oh honey don’t listen to them you’re beautiful”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 12:38 AM
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r/instagramreality does a pretty good job of showcasing the insanity of it all. There are women making six figures as a ‘thick’ fitness model... and they make significant alterations in every photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 12:34 AM
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I’m 34. It’s true that is likely a generational thing but just because younger people are normalizing it doesn’t mean it’s any less damaging. The jury is still out. I see it as just another part of how the internet has made people more disconnected and alienated, when it promises the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:02 PM
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I don’t know about y’all but I’m hot AF
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:50 PM
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I can’t blame her. Shits so crazy nowadays. Filters have progressed to insane levels. The arms race of Photo ‘tuning’ on Snapchat and Instagram has warped perceptions. It’s not just clearing up the skin, it can be used to subtly change features and proportions. It was one thing to be an impressionable teen looking at an airbrushed magazine model; now girls equipped with these filters have to look in the mirror and hate that they can’t even live up to their OWN social image. I don’t envy girls ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:30 PM
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In any given thing, most people suck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 11:08 PM
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Yep! I think I have a good idea about what triggers a mean streak in me. It’s always been when the other person wasn’t honest with me, and I knew it. My biggest fights with my last SO were when she was hiding things about debt, family, and her intentions. She wasn’t talking to me in good faith. So I start wanting to break her down. Show her what I know and how I see things. And it’s definitely an ‘attack’ mindset. Edit: so I’ve learned that if someone is lying to me and I know it. I need to walk…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 04:47 PM
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That’s a good insight! And it kind of ties into my perspective. I actually get pissed if I feel like people aren’t being upfront with me. I know some of it is a bit prideful but I’m like “what you don’t think I can handle it? That some harsh words will make me crumble? You must not respect me at all!”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 03:16 PM
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I think it’s more about giving an honest recount. Maybe it’s were I’m from or my generation but people complain when someone flakes. Especially if the reason isn’t justified. People talk shit about friends, family, and coworkers. I just had a unique experience in that someone was willing to tell me stuff that most people would never say to someone’s face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:58 PM
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I actually just thought of a concrete example that might explain my upbringing and perspective. My twin and I worked at the same job in college. At this time I was a drunk stoner piece of shit. I’d call into work because I was lazy or hungover. My brother would tell me how coworkers were talking shit about me. How we were short staffed. How my decisions had a negative impact on others. Most people wouldn’t go out of their way to tell someone that, because even if it’s true, the telling of it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:46 PM
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I agree. But I also know that many of the times my claims weren’t baseless. The person has a blind spot, as all people do, and I knew that pulling back the curtain would hurt them. The problem I need to work on is my desire to hurt them. But It doesn’t make my ‘cutting words’ about them any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:25 PM
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100% honest and transparent communication can be dangerous for me. A few failed relationships have shown that I can be considered verbally abusive, not abusive in the traditional sense of yelling and name calling though. Instead I can be very cold and mean. I use my words to cut, I would put a lot of effort into formulating the perfect statement meant to shatter the person’s delusions and sense of self. I now realize that what I considered ‘calling out bullshit’ was seen as ‘gaslighting’ by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:01 PM
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/katy-t3h-pengu1n-of-d00m
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 01:25 AM
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You sound like Katy t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m 10 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 01:24 AM
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That’s interesting. Definitely different than what I’ve seen but I won’t discount your lived experience with it. I’m 35 and in the US heartland. I could see how it could be different due to generation, culture, or social-economics. And tons of shit is changing the dating attitudes and dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:27 AM
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But in the cases you’re thinking of, where these people actually dating? Yeah of course and orbiter will buy a promise ring if he thinks it’ll work. But that’s not the same. The whole dichotomy between gatekeepers of sex vs commitment is that the gatekeeper holds a position of power in their given realm. Generally women know men want sex and use this to gatekeep and negotiate a better deal. Men do the same with commitment. Now if there is a huge difference in value between the man and women invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:05 AM
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True. Sucks to be those guys. But gatekeeping doesn’t really apply to them. Id bet that of the number of women who are sleeping with a man and is anxious about the level of commitment he is offering is significantly higher than the men is the same situation. I have no data to back this up mind you. It could be just bias of the male perspective. But I don’t see men putting “No hookups” and “Looking for something real” on their Tinder Bio
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 01:35 AM
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This is completely anecdotal so take it as you will, but over the last six years I’ve read through many of the dating/relationship subreddits and I don’t see guys asking advice on how to approach the “what are we?!?” conversation. In nearly all cases I’ve seen, it’s girls. They are waiting at the commitment gate; with a puzzled look on their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:46 AM
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I’ll shit where I eat if the food is good and the bathroom is clean enough. It becomes less appetizing as you age and your career progresses, though. It’s one thing to slut it up working at a bar or restaurant but now I work for a big ass and very progressive Tech company and last thing I want is to get dragged into HR because I burnt too many bridges. Kinda a moot point now that I work from home, I only go into the office 4 times a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:34 AM
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I’m a guy, I feel masculine: When someone asks for help and quickly diagnose and fix a problem. When I stand up for people incapable of defending themselves. When I easily lift or overpower someone. Soldiering on in spite of pain or injury. Post sex, a satisfied girl laying breathless next to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:39 AM
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Everyone in this thread seems to think ‘deferring to the father’ is a sufficient reason for mothers not teaching theses thinkgs But what of the more than 25% of boys growing up in a fatherless home?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 08:53 AM
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This sort of discussion seems like wasted energy to me. Unless you live in a society with laws that restrict who you can date, sleep with, or marry, no sex has it objectively ‘harder’ than the other. It’s a free country, people can date who they want. In the Western world, I don’t see any ‘rules’ that really restrict relationships among consenting adults, so where does a sense of fairness come about? Everyone is just playing the same game. Each with their own starting point. And who cares if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:34 AM
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In my experience, this is a case of looking at the symptom and not the illness. Yes, there have been women that I’ve rejected who were also too eager. But I rejected them because they were well below my own level of attractiveness/SMV/RMV. They develop a crush on a guy way out of their league, get desperate, and over pursue. They hold onto delusions like a Disney princess and think they can land the dream man because they are ‘special’ or due to “the connection” or how “it’s meant to be”. This s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 05:19 PM
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In the case of the trashy low value chick? A fragment of their psyche might believe it. But they likely know it would only daunt the less aggressive fuck boi. So she’s just setting herself up to get played by even bigger players. For the normal girl that got burned? She’s just hurt and emotionally communicating that hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:23 PM
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This isn’t true for all cases. I think are projecting your own psychology onto these women. Even lower value women get disproportionate attention on dating sites. Some add ‘no hookups’ or ‘no fuck boys’ to their profile as a way to filter out some of the extra noise. Yeah some are trashy girls who are tired of being played and can’t reconcile that with what they are attracted to but some are girls that get legitimately led on and burned by a guy who pumped and dumped. It’s still a dumb thing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:36 PM
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5'11 and 170lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 07:13 PM
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I referenced something in the RP sidebar. Which is supposed to be common information that is agreed upon in the community. Maybe your views just need to be rebranded if they conflict with the doctrines in the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:44 PM
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I can see the circle arguments forming. I guess if the single largest online community devoted to the subject isn't the authority then we really don't have any way of talking about what RP believes. Hence everyone's comments about how it's constantly a moving target, redefined when convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:35 PM
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I read that quote from the RP sidebar several years ago. RP claims the sidebar as its bible. Or is that not the case? This sort of thing is why so many here are talking about moving goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:09 PM
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‘Women are children’ is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:58 PM
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As a straight guy I can support this claim
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:51 PM
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My matches are attractive yeah. I only swipe on girls that I am legitimately interested in. I don't know what I'd rate at, maybe an 7 or 8? It's not common that girls throw themselves at me, but it infrequently happens, especially if alcohol is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:14 PM
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Haha, that could be true. But I did mention how a wedding ring didn't stop some of them, and she only told me she was married after the fact. Lots of guilt and paranoia followed on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 03:48 PM
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A little of Column A and a little of Column B. The main thing I noticed is the age of girls showing interest in me. I get more attention from girls 21-25 than girls my age. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 03:07 PM
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I’m a 34 year old guy. About 5 years ago I dug myself out of a 8 year depression, loss 60lbs, earned a few job promotions, gained several new hobbies, and invested into a new hairstyle and wardrobe. I definitely noticed the difference. Generally, people are just nicer and more talkative. In normal social situations strangers smile and want to chat, coworkers respect me and ask for my input, and women either get really shy or bubbly. For dating/sex it was a whole new world. I honestly didn’t thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:53 PM
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Not all men do. But at 34 I sure as hell did, at least based on the reactions I get from women now compared to 10 years ago. I get more Tinder matches from girls in their early 20s than girls my own age. 🤷‍♂️ There was a ‘what do you look like?’ thread over at r/askmen and someone specifically made a ‘fine wine’ comment on my photo. I’m healthier, more successful, and more confident now than 10 years ago. Girls notice. I know this is all anecdotal but the saying ‘ages like wine’ didn’t just get …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:12 PM
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I can agree with that. But I also think it’s something people sorta figure out when/if the gain more experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:24 AM
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Fuck yeah free XP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:11 AM
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Sounds like you still don’t. It’s like we need to take you on a magic carpet ride to show you the whole new world of life outside one’s own lived experience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:34 AM
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Okay now you two have to do beer bongs and lines of coke until a victor is established
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:23 AM
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I mean it’s cool you put stuff in bold and everything but that’s just another survey of college students. Which is a specific age/demographic that, I agree, isn’t very suited to platonic friendships between men and women. But as loud as they are, college kids don’t speak for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:03 AM
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This is interesting and I can kind of relate. I’ve had female friends like this. It was just a diversion, mostly chat via text. Sometimes all you want is people to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:39 AM
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“Unattractive” might be too strong a word, if that were true it’d cause a race to the bottom. In my experience peer groups tend to share similar levels of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:28 AM
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Haha 🤣 I was equally puzzled by that person’s response. He’s like “If you were a man you wouldn’t even be invited to the Men’s club because you’d be a woman in a hypothetical man’s body”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:39 AM
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This seems to be the most reasonable outlook. I have several female friends that I find attractive but I’m not currently pursuing them because I’m not starved of options. Typically this stuff gets out of wack because the guy has limerence and over pursues. And sorry I wanted to include other gender/sex analogues in the discussion but didn’t want to get bogged down trying to make it sound all PC
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:12 AM
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Yeah ‘friend’ can mean a lot of things. Maybe we have to distinguish it by making it a capital F - Friends. A Friend is someone I hang out with one on one. They know my family, my mom asks about them. They are the one I call when I need to make bail. I’ve only had other guys make it on the short list of Friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:54 AM
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Good on you for being upfront with us guys. And I can imagine how that sucks if your work/social network is male dominated. With your experience do you think the girls in the video are being coy or are genuinely naive? I think most ‘nice guys’ thrash out at the emotional vampire girl. Who knowingly takes advantage of guys pursuing her. But really both sides are to blame in those situations, the guy for not being clear with his intentions and the girl using him for validation. And this can happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 01:46 AM
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This is an awesome question because it really cuts to the heart of RP thought and exposes the emotional motivation and lack of logic. Branch Swinging = Jealously. The Wall = Vindictiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:23 PM
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Agree 100% on that. Both sides of the issue are pretty despicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 04:41 PM
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The beard trend is likely going to say around. This is less about fashion and more to do with most men being Low-T, craft beer drinking fatties with double chins. Beard makes for a good faux jawline. Who the hell knows about fashion/culture. Things move so quick with the internet these day. It allows people to find whatever community or subculture they want. 10-20 years is a blink of an eye. I don’t see much changing unless something crazy happens like a super volcano erupting or the Great Meme …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:40 AM
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I don’t (intentionally) pull punches when I interact or compete with women professionally. In my eyes, doing so would be a sign of disrespect. I’m luckily in a field that’s rewarded on merit. The playing field is pretty level. Welp, at least I still got my superior grip strength. Doesn’t do shit for me in a cubicle though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 06:22 AM
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I don’t disagree. Human beings can both individually and collectively overcome base feelings or impulses. And were way more complicated than buffalo. But I still think we have particular ‘wiring’ that is innate. The Hormones, reward centers, and other systems I can’t claim to fully understand (I am just spitballing here) still cause knee jerk reactions and feelings. My point about losing a fist fight was just that unless you’re part of the Jedi Order, the feelings of shame and anger will surface…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:15 AM
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It’s a good question to ask for sure. I just wanted to make note that there can be systems that cause inherent bias in behaviors. Not everything is pulled out of thin air by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:04 AM
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I’ll correct that typo. Thanks! Oh and society has very little to do with it. Do you think Buffalo ‘society’ is the reason male buffalos dual in front of female spectators? And both the winner and loser undergo changes in sex hormones and outward behaviors? Granted, we aren’t buffalo but, it’s a very common paradigm found in Mate Choice, so stop with the social relativism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_choice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:53 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely a lot of that. Which is hard to refer to because we just don’t have a term to distinguish these girls. They aren’t prostitutes, escorts, or cam girls, or strippers. They are just women that use their sexuality to play dumb and desperate men. Its a growing trend likely because technology has given them an easy and safe platform to do this without even leaving the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 08:28 PM
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I’ll swallow my pride and admit it - Yes women can intimidate me. They can do this intimately, socially, or professionally. Each context differs quite a bit. When it comes to social/intimate relationships, I’ve figured out their ability to intimidate is directly proportional to the power I allow them to have over my own feelings and sense of self-identity. It just comes with experience. Women can judge and reject you but their assessment isn’t some unveiling of universal truths about you. Instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 08:18 PM
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It is for me too. I report them as well. It’s just crazy how many I see still. And these are different than the obvious bots/catfishers I report.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:44 PM
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That’s true. I wouldn’t be surprised is a good portion is just catfishers or just straight up escorts/camstars. But it’s certainly not the majority. I’ve done online dating on and off for the last decade and I consider my instincts pretty good when it comes to spotting out scammers. (Reverse Image Search FTW) With that said, there are plenty of real profiles that are soliciting money just to talk/fake flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:30 PM
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With all the examples I’ve seen, I hope these women are like your friend, motivated by cynicism and irreverence. As odd as it sounds, that’s better than women legitimately believing men must pay for a chance to date them. Also, I’ve seen the tactics change now that saying ‘Venmo’ leads to a ban. Now they say ‘Broke college student looking for a sugar daddy’
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 03:53 PM
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Tell that to the men that desperately donate and gift ‘Gamer Gurl’ Twitch.tv streamers. The behavior is common enough to support a section of that industry, hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. Granted, the men that fall for this are desperate and stupid. But that doesn’t seem to cause a moral issue for the girls that exploit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 05:04 PM
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These sorts of people can be described with a term I’ve been really interested in recently: ‘emotional vampire’. An emotional vampire is often sociopathic and narcissistic and they prey on empaths (aka Nice Guy/Girl). These emotional vampires have to prey on the opposite sex because their behavior usually burns all other bridges. Their normal peer groups get sick of their shit so they move onto people of the opposite sex because they are easier to exploit by using fake promises of intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 03:03 AM
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I don’t think it’s always this nefarious. The ‘friend zone’ tends to occur in adolescence where people are growing up and still sorting things out. The boy is too passive + the girl too naive = ripe conditions for the friend zone. There are true ‘emotional vampires’ out there that slowly feed off the orbiters they’ve enthralled. They use their orbiter to make other legitimate suitors jealous. Bread crumb them with little nuggets of affection. And sabotage their thrall’s attempts at other legitim…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 02:42 AM
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What we are all experiencing is cultural lag resulting from massive changes to day to day life. When it comes to running the household we have it so much easier than our ancestors did. Families used to have to constantly toil to have food, heat, and clean linens. The challenge required men and women to delegate work in an efficient and effective way, otherwise you don’t survive winter. There have been studies about how modern appliances lead to sweeping changes to gender roles. https://www.scien…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 10:32 AM
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My beliefs are best summarized as “Traditionalism 2.0” It would remove all RPs hate speech and wannabe pseudoscientific nonsense while also rejecting modern social-relativism. Really very little from RP would survive the purge besides accepting defined gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 01:07 AM
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MR LEBOWSKI - “What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?” DUDE - “Dude.” MR LEBOWSKI - “Huh?” DUDE - “Uh, I, I don’t know, sir.” MR LEBOWSKI - “Is it being prepared to do the right thing? Whatever the cost? Isn’t that that makes a man?” DUDE - “Ummm..sure. That and a pair of testicles.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:29 PM
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Ugh, this will be my last response to you. What you provided was a long form blog/research paper that is from a think-tank. The author is a psychology professor defending his discipline and claiming it as a ‘hard science’. Which sociologist and psychologist have been trying to argue for decades. He makes 3 major claims: Evolutionary Psychology is a hard science that is key to understanding human kinship behavior. Men and women have different mating strategies that are biological driven which Pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 04:55 AM
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Since you’re incapable or unwilling to produce actual scientific studies. Here’s one: 2005 Study by the National Bureau of Labor and Statistics. It positively correlates marriage and overall well-being. For both men and women. https://www.nber.org/papers/w20794 I found your site as well. This? http://journals.sagepub.com/home Lots of stuff here but since you’re the guru could you point to where the Red Pill stuff is? I’d like to read about how Dread game improves long term relationships. Instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 02:11 AM
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Okay. Sorry for the typo. No need to be a spaz. I’ll update
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 02:52 PM
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Care to cite the peer reviewed studies and research? Because I have yet to see anything that actually directly supports one of the RP tenets. I’ve seen blogs - about news articles - about scientific papers - where through some twisted game of telephone the blog makes inaccurate claims about the actual research. I’ve seen studies on other animals and I’ve seen completely made-up rubbish. WHERE is this science I see RP constantly talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:03 PM
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The guys in these pictures only look like this for a few days. They use Diuretic supplements to dehydrate and shrink fat cells. They might maintain that body fat percentage for around 30-90 days a year but it is impossible to be this lean and big year round. It has to be done in cycles. Anyways, no I wouldn’t want to look like this. Add 5% more body fat and skip the water pills and then we’d be closer to an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:50 AM
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I’m not sure to be honest. Likely that would be a better question to ask over at r/Deadbedrooms But if you think my little tale is depressing, buckle your ass up. The stories over there are absolutely brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 12:13 PM
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I’d say the two things I now look for in a girl is that they have similar energy levels to mine and that they don’t play coy when it comes to talking about sex. My last girlfriend was just so squeamish when it came to communication and intimacy. She wasn’t capable of being honest or providing feedback unless I pushed her super hard to talk. She was also quite lazy and would pull the ‘I’m just tired’ thing for weeks at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 12:05 PM
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In my experience, the slowdown of sex in a committed relationship is pretty universal and unavoidable. My last relationship ended with a dead bedroom and though my attraction to my girlfriend went down, that wasn’t the main driver. I was just trying to be an adult and told myself I would never grovel or beg for sex. Instead I tried to work on myself, be romantic, and rebuild the mood/fire we once had. It didn’t work, I was a dead man walking. The relationship ended shortly after. I’m still optim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:54 AM
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No worries. I was just trying to be funny and kinda overdid it. I tend to say snide shit whenever a ‘cel’ term is thrown my way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 12:33 PM
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Level 60 Supaa Saiyajin Chad wielding ThunderFury Blessed Blade of the Windseeker But in seriousness I’m just not dating because of an upcoming work related move. I don’t like casual relationships and don’t need to ‘spin plates’ to have self-esteem. Stop being a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:19 PM
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34 year old single Male - Yes I have female friends. The main difference is that I avoid hanging out 1 on 1 with my female friends. It’s disrespectful to their partner if they are in a relationship and potentially confusing if they are single. My friendships with women are more ‘guarded’. I don’t want it to be seen as emotional cheating if they are in a relationship and I don’t want either of us to ‘catch feelings’ if they are single. Yes, I learned that an emotional but platonic relationship be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:48 AM
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Meh, it’s didn’t appeal to me at all. I didn’t have the motivation to read or post anything. It felt like a bunch of 10-14 year old edge lords just trying to bait reasonable people into being ‘triggered’ I wasn’t triggered, I was bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 12:15 PM
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I read it all. I agree that his post isn’t for everyone but I don’t think it is iamverysmart material, far from it. I wanted to thrash out at all the edge lords that were posting during Purge Week but decided I’d just be giving them what they wanted. So it was nice to read something that was actually trying to explore some concepts. Let the man have his soap box.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 12:11 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator DOSGAMES
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:39 PM
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Well yeah, Ashes to ashes and dust to dust. It’s the pursuit. Keep running until you drop dead. I’m enjoying it well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:31 AM
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I create the goals, but my brothers can move the goal post by outdoing me. It’s tough to explain. I call it ‘fuck you’ money. Like my brother Justin recently gifted me his ‘spare’ MacBook Pro. That makes him an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:21 AM
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My twin and I are both guys and the youngest. We are so close that we don’t even need to talk. The last 12 months of our texts conversations are literally just memes. I’ll say what I said at his wedding. “We are each other’s harshest critics and fiercest advocates.” He’s someone I can trust with my life. He will slap me back into reality if I’ve gone off the edge. My Dad is my hero and my Mom is my heart. I seriously am so lucky. My Dad was a janitor and worked his ass off, moved onto a sales jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:59 AM
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I think so. My parents didn’t have a ton of oversight, they both worked 40+ hours a week. I grew up in an Irish/polish neighborhood in the South side of Chicago, it was just a no-nonsense kind of place, very blue collar. We are Catholic but not super orthodox. They gave me plenty of freedom, they let me drink in high school, buy my own car, join any club or group I wanted. I guess when I think of ‘rebellion’ I think of teenage angst, little kids with attitudes, thinking they understand the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:34 AM
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I have a twin and two other brothers. Finding my identity and some way to distinguish myself started way before my teens. But this was tempered by my parents, who are awesome and loving but their yelling and judgment didn’t give me a ton of room to be a shit head. Like imagine George Cotanza’s parents but with more F-bombs. Being edgy just meant I’d get called out on it by my parents, then beaten up by one or more of my brothers. Teenage ‘rebellion’ is really a thing for the sheltered and privil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 07:15 AM
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Oh god, nearly all of them? AWALT, Hypergamy, Divorce Rape, Use of Dread Game, and the general hate speech directed at women. But in reality Red Pill beliefs are so muddled and confused that I instead focus getting Red Pill men to realize that their beliefs have nothing to do with science or facts and is instead motivated entirely by their negative emotions and bias. The self improvement stuff that is in the Red Pill side bar are concepts that are literally older than Christ (Read up on Aristote…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:38 AM
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Sure. At least we are getting more precise. You believe that the Blue Pill denies Evolutionary Psychology. Like what does that even mean? EvoPsych is just a discipline. You can’t deny the existence of a particular methodology. But you can challenge the vague and rarely cited claims that Red Pillers make, since they tend to know nothing about EvoPsych besides the talking points they’ve mindlessly absorbed. Usually they grab a wiki page like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_(ethology) T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:15 AM
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Since this is a CMV post and your stated view seems to be ‘lolz bloops ain’t got nuttin to say’ I can challenge your claim by simply speaking. Now hand over that imaginary ‘debate champion’ belt you got around your waste. But you did mention the lack of Blue Pillers providing evidence so I’ll present some that specifically challenges the Red Pill claim that marriage is detrimental to men: This is a 2005 study from the National Bureau of Economic Research that positively correlates marriage with …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 05:48 AM
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This is an archive of some C-List site. It’s like 4 paragraphs long, offers no source citations, or really details on who, where, how, or when the study was conducted. Honestly carries about as much weight as my crazy aunts Anti-Vax Facebook posts. Really the fact that anyone would consider this viable information to support any claims of any Pill color is beyond me. The owners of the site couldn’t even pay their hosting bill 😂 It did make for a good Red Pill circle jerk, which is really the who…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 11:49 PM
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I’m 34m and single at the moment so I’ll answer this question in the context of dating (with a LTR as the end goal). I got good at being alone and single. I want to find ‘the one’ but I realize that I cannot make my own happiness contingent on the approval or affection that women give me. No girl wants a lost puppy-dog. I pour my energy into productive and interesting hobbies. I paint, travel, and pick up random arts and crafts projects. I don’t even have TV or internet at home anymore. I try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:10 AM
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This question isn’t in good faith. Boo! Maybe you could provide an example or situation where an RP man looks for validation? If not, you are just dragging the debate down into petty insults
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 10:45 PM
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True. But good luck on being an accepted member of that group if you are ‘spinning plates’ and practicing ‘dread’ on the daughters of your tribe. Monogamy is a social contract that creates and strengthens bonds between families.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 12:19 PM
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I enjoy Evolutionary Psychology a great deal but I’m still quite skeptical of the discipline, especially when it comes to humans. Evo Psych is like on the border of social science, it’s not a hard science with ‘universals’ like chemistry or physics. It studies humans. And we’re fucking weird. We’ve been around WAY longer than recorded history and know very little about how and why we behave the way we do. But I think we can make a few general statements Monogamy makes sense, we are slow to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 04:11 AM
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That would be painting TRP is the best possible light. I would say something more akin to “TRP sidebar has articles that cater to arm-chair academics. Most of it is emotionally charged pseudoscientific hate speech, but there are some nuggets of truth, which were unfortunately adapted from other sources and sometimes completely perverted”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 01:01 AM
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No, I’m saying every original idea that RP has created isn’t worth learning. While all of the worthwhile stuff in the sidebar can be read by more talented and accredited academics , scientists, or philosophers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 12:50 AM
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In a sense yes. Especially if I tout my ideas like they are a complete school of thought. And if you strip away all of those stolen ideas from RP, really all you have left is edgy hate speech against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 12:42 AM
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I used the verb ‘stolen’ above. Was I not clear in my language? Or are you acting like Socrates where you’re just going to ask me questions until I speak false?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 12:37 AM
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The ‘self improvement’ stuff is mostly stolen and literally older than Christ. Read up on Aristotelian ethics
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 12:33 AM
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It should also be mentioned why RP is so complacent with the hyperbolic and hateful discussions that take place in their community. Lots of RP commentators on PPD like to tout the truths found in ‘the sidebar’ but most of the sidebar is just articles, none of which are all that new or revolutionary. If you remove the sidebar and just look at the actual conversations taking place on RP and askRP, it becomes clear just how ugly of a place it is. I think that’s why we have so many reasonable Reds h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 11:12 PM
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Just to defend my comment. I spoke of RP as a community specifically. Not every ‘member’ or an ideology but instead my collected impressions from reading posts on RP and askRP. A great deal of it is vile. And I’ve known and interacted with men/boys that say this stuff. So much of the actual sidebar stuff is good because it’s OBVIOUS. Really the amount of genuine indefensible misogyny that goes on in those communities speaks volumes about the participants. I can’t reconcile that, or separate it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 02:35 AM
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Only my cousin. The older two didn’t mention Red Pill. But those ideas aren’t new. Really not too different than a lot of PUA stuff that started coming out in the mid-90s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 10:28 PM
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‘Used’ as in spoke the word to describe how women behave
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:34 PM
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Not ‘men’ no. My 14 year old edgy cousin. A old weird and poorly socialized coworker. A depressed alcoholic friend. Those are the three that openly used concepts like hypergamy and dread game
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:29 PM
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I consider the ‘Pills’ to be communities of people with similar beliefs and values and not strict defined disciplines. With this in mind, I struggle to take RP seriously after meeting RP men in real life. Each and everyone has been a neckbeard living out some hateful male power fantasy online. They come from a place of dejection and hurt. You can see them use their ideology to hide their wounds. This really colored my perception of the movement, made it just look sad and desperate. I will grant …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 12:01 PM
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Wish you a speedy recovery!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 06:33 PM
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Yes, of course men who lack certain ‘toxic’ masculine traits can still be attractive to certain people. I don’t prescribe myself as any particular Pill but I am sympathetic to some views RP has on masculinity and I often want to defend behaviors that are described as ‘toxic’. The conversations happening around Toxic Masculinity are really just part of a larger societal trend which is redefining what we consider Virtues. Humanity in the past lived in a harder world, this valued harder men. Aggres…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 06:18 PM
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Just to add a Male voice to the mix, I have been sexually harassed in public countless times. Unfortunately it’s mostly been from other men, the most aggressive of which where drunk gay men. Several were so inappropriate that it nearly came to blows. Which sucks because I have nothing against LGBT people, but if you try to abuse or force me, I’m going to put up a fight. Straight men do it too, high school football was full of sexual insults, hazing, jeering, and inappropriate acts. Men do this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:27 PM
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So? You being indifferent with siring a bunch of illegitimate children doesn’t undo a good 300,000+ years of human kinship behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 05:56 AM
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I’m about to turn 34 and I feel a very faint sense of urgency. It doesn’t really distract me because this is the first time in my life where I feel like I’m firing on all cylinders. I’m driven, fit, educated, and ever advancing in my career. I attract way more women than I used to, even ones 10 years my junior. I figure with good habits, nutrition, and luck I can ride this out well into my late 40s but I’d like to settle down in the next 5 years. As far as boner pills go, the idea doesn’t bother…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 03:03 AM
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But our ‘biological imperative’ isn’t to just fuck. It’s to continue our lineage. That’s why your point is misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 02:36 AM
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This is awfully cynical and if we look at biology and evolutionary psychology, not at all accurate. Raising a human infant is very costly, men have to stick around. Compared to many species, we invest way more into child rearing. Some animals only require the male to literally ‘pump and dump’ while some demand much more. The Lion isn’t pumped full of testosterone just to get the initial fuck, most of it is needed to protect his vulnerable kin, from predators and other males. Your point doesn’t a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 02:26 AM
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I struggled quite a bit in my earlier years, if my past failings were on video, they’d give the viewer a repeated and intense full body cringe, it could be a new workout program! The fact that I’m good looking was the only thing that saved me. But it took far too many blown opportunities, which confused girls and made them feel unwanted. I think the reason so many men take the path of the Fuck-Boi is due to those early cringey moments we all have. So they abandon the emotional elements as to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 02:12 AM
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This can be difficult for men to navigate because if we do not immediately and assertively display ourselves as a ‘sexual option’ we often end up in a sort of purgatory often referred to as ‘the friend zone’ I know it’s not always best to pursue sex right away but, I don’t know, sparks fly. My best relationships have started with sex within the first few meetings. And it’s not because I had some timetable I was pushing, instead it was just kissing, then touching, and well, you get the picture. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:39 AM
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She specifically said ‘even saying hello’ but granted she is probably an outlier due to her past. But everyone seemed to agree with her post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:41 PM
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But that’s the thing, I’m not making a pass at them. I’m just saying hello. So essentially I should restrict my social behavior so that women my age are avoided? I guess it’s just a shame that women have to be on their hackles like that. I’m from the Mid-West and we are notoriously friendly, people chit-chat while shopping. Not full blown conversations, but a couple seconds of lighthearted banter shouldn’t be something to send someone into a panic attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:21 PM
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I see your point. I guess it depends on what we mean by ‘approach’. I’m an extrovert and if I’m out in public I want to socialize. Due to the ‘Halo effect’, I’m sure I’m subconsciously biased to smiling and greeting attractive people. It’s a mixed bag. Everyday I see various posts on dating/relationship subreddits lamenting ‘why didn’t he talk to me!?!’ Women desperately want to be approached by the few select men that they find attractive, and often are too damn shy to give obvious signals, let…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:28 PM
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I had a Facebook friend post about this recently. She was a victim of sexual assault and basically said that being approached by an unknown man makes her feel like she is reliving the past. She encouraged men to just ‘leave women alone’ because even saying ‘hello’ can hurt them or cause an anxious spiral. Part of me sympathizes with her but I also couldn’t help feel offended. She basically thinks all men are out to sexually assault her in public. I know this is an extreme case. And it sucks that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:11 PM
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See that's where we differ, I mentioned above the mating/kinship model that is widely accepted to describe sexual strategies in much of the animal kingdom. Yes men are choosy as well but it is not the 'role' we fill. This is not just supported by anecdotes and cultural norms, it is also heavily documented in zoology/biology. And it's important that women are choosy! It's a vital role in ensuring the species adapts and advances. We wouldn't be where we are if women were less picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 08:46 PM
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Yeah, it makes sense that there is going to be significant evolutionary drag when so much change is happening so quickly. That maybe supports the idea that women subconsciously select for more aggressive men despite that attitude not working very well in civilized society. Plus men are struggling to find fulfillment in a world where our strengths are becoming less and less valuable. Also with birth control girls can reasonably manage the risk of sex. That certainly has to take away some urgency …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:08 AM
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It’s difficult to address and attempt to change your view because you use imprecise language to describe a topic with massive scope. I’ll just make some assumptions about what you might mean though and see if I can muster a few decent points. First we got to sort out what you mean by ‘sacrifice’ and to do that we need to establish what ‘value’ might mean. I’m guessing whatever you had in mind would boil down to it being transactional and how women objectively lose out when negotiating for a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:51 AM
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Edit. I posted in the wrong place. I moved my comment to the main thread
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:42 AM
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Based on this and your other comments, I really don’t think it’s the ideas of RP that you are wrestling with, instead it’s ‘determinism’ or ‘Hard Behaviorism’ I can sympathize, it makes life seem disingenuous if we explain the behavior of people without considering the freedom and agency we all have as conscious beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 06:38 AM
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Even at the academic level, the study human kinship behavior is a social science, it lacks precision and is subjective . RP at its best, is a shoddy attempt to explain kinship and mating by focusing heavily on the unconscious mind and how it colors our thoughts and desires. Really RP isn’t about facts. People aren’t drawn to RP because of its ‘logic’, they get sucked into it because of its emotional appeal. Yes, RP makes a few decent points about power structures/hierarchy and their affect on ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 06:15 AM
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The other guys filled me in! Only some members think it's a Frat so turns out I don't need to pledge!
/r/askTRP13/09/17 03:58 AM
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Yep! I was just being an ass to the guy above. I've given more productive responses to the people who were less ehem passionate
/r/askTRP13/09/17 02:40 AM
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Thanks dude, and that's sort of what I had in mind. I really enjoyed all of the self-improvement stuff. Two years ago I turned my life around and found that I was doing most of that stuff already. So I was like 'hell yeah! These guys know how to make men feel better and take control of their lives' I guess I'll just use those parts. Because in regards to all the other societal stuff, to be honest, i feel like if you've truly taken control you'd just roll with it. No matter what fucked up things …
/r/askTRP13/09/17 02:32 AM
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Weird! I didn't read all of what you said because I think I got my answer. This place is indeed all of nothing. I'll take one nothing please
/r/askTRP13/09/17 01:33 AM
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See that's the thing, to me some of your opinions on women seem so far removed from reality. It seems to be more of a thrashing out, a emotional response. I mean yes, I do agree that some women get bored in a relationship when they feel they can do no wrong. But to make the weird and frankly disturbing intelligentual leaps that some of your posters make, it just discredits any of the valuable insights that are there. Like that a 'dark triad' will make a woman feel more attraction then anyone els…
/r/askTRP13/09/17 01:17 AM
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