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For me, it’s not the job or the career that’s the bad thing. What I don’t want to see is a woman who: 1. Makes a big deal out of having access to a job and a career, as if its still 1923 or something. 2. Sincerely believes that men exist to serve them. Too many women who have careers believe in that second part. I hear it at outdoor brunch tables and dinner tables with alarming regularity. Career women tend to be more stuck up and entitled than women who value being a wife and a mother more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:03 AM
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Having some boring routine doesn’t matter if the woman is into you from the start, and when it’s clear from the start that what’s about to follow is an NSA thing. Your real concern here isn’t the boringness or repetitiveness. The vast majority of humans have repetitive routines and don’t try New Things on the regular. No, your real concern is the complete lack of interest from something like 95% of men in having a woman as a “Best Friend.” The fact that you genuinely want things like sweet talks…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:32 AM
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In short, we stop caring what women or people in general think of us and just act how we want and talk how we want. There’s a DGAF vibe that comes from this attitude which actually wins more respect and less gas lighting. The ultimate trajectory is that if we see it through and don’t get distracted (again) by what others think, we end up decreasing our misery and making existence tolerable for ourselves. Our destination is that we become harmless human beings that others can no longer manipulate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:24 AM
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So about the whole social skills thing: I myself am constantly on the look out for indicators of interest (IOI). I’m sensitive to even the slightest sign that a girl I find attractive might like me or want me to approach. I can think of a handful of examples where an IOI might have been there, or it was just something innocent or explainable. I didn’t do anything with those situations, because they were 50-50 calls at most. I think one of two things is going on: The IOI was there, but it was too…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:22 AM
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20 to 25. No lower than 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:52 AM
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Personal experience, which validated most of what I read on the internet about the Black Pill. Basically, I looksmaxxed to the point where my smart phone categorizes me as two different people in my personal photos section - the one who was overweight and wore eye glasses, and the one who I look like today. Both versions of me got exactly the same amount of attention and notices from women, which is to say, none. I’m just now learning to cope with it in a way that’s not toxic or obnoxious toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:25 AM
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I’m starting to experience that myself. Here’s some free advice to the women reading this: We only act respectful and professional because: We (falsely) perceive there is something in it for us. Its a means to an end. We dont want you to sic the legal system on us and go to jail Seeing as reason No.1 has been utterly demolished by women themselves over the last 10-20 years, thats leaves reason No.2 as the only reason we are gun shy about approaching and showing interest. The DM sliding will cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:05 PM
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For me, reading and commenting on posts like this was just a way to: Get ahead of the game by anticipating all possibilities and outcomes, thus saving myself the pain of inevitable disappointment. Rig the game in mens favor by effectively bullying women into either admitting the truth or changing their actions. I can see we’ve had success on that former count. For example, women are finally admitting that a man must be physically attractive for him to be a hook up or relationship material. The i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:46 AM
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Enjoy your upvote then, because that’s the honesty I’ve wanted to see on PPD for a long time now. The guys attacking you for telling the truth haven’t gotten over their self-made delusion that “its only whats on the inside that counts,” which implies that an ugly guy can get a hot chick if his personality is good enough. I’ve come to the conclusion that us guys created that myth ourselves. Besides, most of us have shit personalities anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:29 AM
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Can verify. A big thanks to the ladies of this thread. Lots of straight up truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:23 AM
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I think a lot of men lack purpose, and reason for existence. Something I internalized recently is that you can’t let a woman dictate your purpose for you. We as men need to find our own purpose that isn’t subject to the external whims of anyone else. We need something to live for, something grand, something bigger than ourselves. I blame society for the lack of purpose in men more then anything else. Its 2022. We should be hearing stories about how the colonization of Mars is getting close to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:38 AM
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Yup. A Rightward shift from where I was in my teens. I actually grew up in a conservative, evangelical christian household, and I specifically remember in 2007 when I was 18 how I had no issue with women getting jobs and sleeping around (the sleeping around part was motivated by my perception that I would benefit from it, not because I thought women inherently had the right to do so). I changed my mind and became a social conservative when it became clear that I don’t actually benefit from femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:28 AM
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Gotchya. Thanks for answering. Its definitely annoying when I have a conversation with a male coworker or colleague, and they bring up something negative about their personal life. I think to myself, “dude, I don’t give a shit, I’ve got my own problems to worry about.” I think that’s where the bitterness comes out in them. I try to police myself in conversations with people by steering away from personal negative stuff. I’ll talk shit all day long about abstract topics, but if I don’t care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:14 AM
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Question: Does this bitterness radiate off them when you talk to them? Or can you also sense it just from walking by them? Their body language, facial expressions, etc? I’ve often wondered about this. I can usually tell when someone is bitter from talking to them, and sometimes, I can tell a person is angry or upset when I walk by them or see them and their facial expressions. But I’m not sure I could tell if a person is bitter just from walking by them, because the truth is, everyone wears a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:31 AM
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You won’t be stuck with someone you don’t want. You’ll just be considered a marginal outcast that refuses to fit in because she’s too selfish to consider anyone needs other then her own (men do this do when they abandon their kids and live a life of hedonism; you both call it “autonomy”). So no, you won’t be forced to marry, and you won’t be forced to have kids. You’ll be encouraged to do so, and the community will go out of their way to find you a spouse. When you still refuse, that’s when you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:01 AM
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What you’re witnessing is the beginning of the end of an era. Before Modernism, there was the Victorian Era, which was more or less its antithesis. The pendulum will swing back to balance, forming a new set of social rules and conduct. Only from a hyperpartisan Modernist perspective can you say that the comments and threads on PPD are like something out of a “horrifying documentary.” PPD is the collective expression of where most men are at these days. Its not an outlier. Its not for the weirdos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:14 PM
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Nah. Modernism was invented in the 1910s and 1920s. We can decide as a society that it was tried and didn’t work out, and go back to what worked for centuries and kept everyone (including women) happy. But then the “self-expression and autonomy above all else” types would go back to being the alienated outcasts they were, and we can’t have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:07 PM
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Implying that one didn’t give birth to the other, and implying they don’t feed off each other and share parallel worldviews. Trad Cons and Second Wave Feminists are both hiveminds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:03 PM
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Nah, its a valid comparison. Both healthcare and relationships/intimacy are human and/or emotional needs. Sure, you won’t die without a relationship…but you also won’t die without free healthcare. You’ll just be in a fuck ton of debt. If the attitude of women towards men is “tough shit,” then its really not any less cruel too look at the debt laden survivor of a car accident and be like, “tough shit.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:55 PM
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I unironically agree with that, FWIW. There’s all sorts of shit people feel entitled too just because they exist. Healthcare is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:52 PM
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The Virgin PUA vs. the Chad Recluse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:12 AM
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True, but of all those characteristics you mentioned, I think the one that really turns women off is the one about not socializing, which goes hand in hand with playing video games. The attention and energy that men spend on video games isn’t being expended on them, and they resent that. I spend basically all my free time as a Very Online person, and I have less then zero interest in getting out of my apartment on a Friday or Saturday and socializing. Us men have collectively decided that living…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:45 AM
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He’s physically attractive in every way: Handsome, fit, minimum 5’9. Has a Chad face, clearly works out, and wouldn’t be dismissed out of hand due to his height. Personality: Has magnetic charisma. Everyone likes him. Can interact with anyone and own the room. Dresses well. Has great social skills overall. I think money and social status are vastly overrated. If you’re an ugly douchebag like Jeff Bezos, you’ll still get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 10:54 PM
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And would you say that if a physically attractive man lacks any romantic or sexual success, its because he has a faulty or even repulsive personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:24 AM
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That’s a good point. And then they have the gall to complain about being approached randomly. I used to sympathize with women when I would see older, ugly men approach women clearly out of their league, but if those women would rather sic the legal system on them then aggressively confront those men and get them to piss off, or get resentful later when they cave in to a relationship, then my sympathy is lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:51 PM
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The vast majority of women look average too, which begs the question of why average looking women and average looking men so often end up in Dead Bedroom situations where the wife is unattracted to and resentful of her average looking husband. The theory in pill boards like this one is that its because he isn’t hot enough to make her attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:48 PM
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I suppose this might be technically true seeing as women don’t see the vast majority of men as remotely attractive to begin with. And yeah, sure, some of those men are legitimately fat and slovenly, but not the vast majority of them. Bottom line: For your statement to he true, you have to take a horribly negative view of men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:57 PM
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I honestly agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:04 AM
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Meeting women through social connections implies seduction, which I can confidently say the vast majority of men on this board look down on with disgust. Myself included. Seduction is for charlatans like Cesare Borgia of Italy or a charming villain in a comic book. Its beneath the realm of moral, decent, honest men. Man goes to social setting. Sees woman in social setting. They exchange glances. Smile. Approach. Flirt. More smiling. A bunch of unspoken body language. Some more things happen. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:02 AM
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Implying there’s a problem with being a nonsocial shut in. One of the many nice things about mass civilization is that eventually we reach the point where atomized individuals can be left the hell alone away from indifferent strangers, annoying family members, and shallow friends. Naturally, those atomized individuals seek out other atomized individuals for companionship. This is only threatening to those who insist that humans have some bizarre duty to others to “socialize” and “get out there.”…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:50 AM
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Literally my situation. And I don’t even follow the Red Pill. I get her complaint about how lots of men are fat and lazy, but the kind of men you described are in the same boat as the incel gamer types, and its because 6 and 7 women don’t settle for anything less then 8 or 9 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:43 AM
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I think either Monogamy survives through everyone pairing with their looksmatch and being happy with it (existing culture has the former without the later), or, in the scenario you described in your PPD post two weeks ago about women wanting strong children from one man and love/commitment from another man at the same time, we replace Monogamy with a kind of normalized cuckoldry. A lot of Red Pillers would gawk at the later scenario, but to be honest, if AF/BB was normalized, there wouldn’t be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:38 AM
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The false premise here is that perspectivism justifies innocence. Sure, from the perspective of women, they legitimately feel that an 8 or a 9 is in her league even if she herself is a 5 or a 6. I’m not gonna deny they feel that, and I’m not gonna accuse them of being deliberately dishonest. But, to use a sports analogy, if a player off the bench feels he’s a superstar, that does not, in fact, make him a superstar. People can argue all they want that “attractiveness can’t be negotiated,” but at …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:45 AM
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Fair enough. Thanks for the insight and advice. I’m pleased to see you engaging positively with all of us who shared our stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:40 AM
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No. I don’t do any cardio. Its bad for your knees and joints. Lifting weights is a much better way to stay fit and healthy. Besides, I don’t like the kind of people running clubs attract. Runners tend to be white, affluent social liberals with NPR voice. They don’t share my values. I have much more in common with lift bros then runners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:07 PM
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Maybe. But even if I had to swat away or walk over the creepy and clingy ones, I’d still feel validated, which is what I crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:10 PM
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Eh, I’m not sure that’s the case. The grass is always greener, and sometimes, its better to be alone then to be stuck in a relationship with someone you genuinely resent - whatever the cause of that resentment (unattractive, abusive, etc). Misery is misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:23 PM
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Thanks. It was a good decision to get healthy even though it didn’t give me what I really wanted. I’ve noticed that now that I’m into the routine of calorie counting every day, its an easy habit to maintain. I’m happy with my weight and my general looks. I just wish attractive women would notice me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:16 PM
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I think you’re missing the point of why they want those women to be stuck alone: Because the implication is that they will be miserable. As we all know, misery loves company, and if women become miserable due to settling for their looksmatch as opposed to being stuck alone, the goal is still achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:14 PM
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My breaking point actually occurred over the last year - as in, since the beginning of 2021 through today. Here’s what happened: In the summer of 2020, I started Looksmaxxing. There were events in my personal life that led to me making this decision, and I won’t go into detail what those were. Anyway, I was pretty comprehensive: First, I got laser eye surgery so that I wouldn’t have to wear glasses, which I’d been wearing since grade school and made me look dorky. Then, I went to the dentist for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:39 AM
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“The Wall” is, admittedly, used to imply that a +30 women literally can’t get a man to date. That’s not quite true, but that doesn’t mean “The Wall” is a myth. It means that, after a certain age, she can’t attract the hot men she used to attract, which forces her to settle for her looksmatch, which women universally resent having to do. They resent having to settle. Thus, its still a loss for them and a vindication for the men that told them so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:05 AM
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Blue Pill: I’m against the idea that “True Love” can possibly form the foundation of marriage or a solid relationship. True Love is a myth and a lie. Red Pill: I’m against most PUA tactics, as they provide cheap cover for an inherent lack of worth that women see right through. Also against the idea that “confidence” and “assertiveness” can make an otherwise unattractive man appealing. FDS: I hate Radical Feminism and consider it worse then Liberal Feminism. Both are awful, but RadFems hate men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:59 AM
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What a coincidence that women never rebelled against it until the 1960s. Its almost like things worked out for both genders back in those days…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:54 AM
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Cope. “Well, women would have prioritized looks, but the evil meanie men didn’t allowz us!” Sex wasn’t invented in 1964, and men and women in the West and across the world understood for centuries why gender roles were a thing, and why they were more or less rigidly enforced. Women helped keep female hypergamy in check for the good of society just as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:13 PM
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There are two types of males here: The Prototypical Nice Guys who play by the rules, aren't very charismatic, and tend to expect to get rewarded for their behavior with access to women they find attractive. And the Seducer, who has charisma, doesn't place any value on "good guys vs. bad guys," and loves to look down on men who were suckers for playing by the rules. Seducers didn't create civilization. Builders did. It's one thing for autistic incels to not attract women, it's another thing for v…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:38 AM
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I don't hate you as much after I saw you punk Richard Spencer when he retweeted you, and when you put the Racist RadFems - LaGriffe is the most notorious one - in their place. I disagree with almost everything you believe in, but your positions are ideologically consistent, unlike the Radfems who only want feminism for White women - and more specifically, feminism for College-Educated, Liberal White women. Please, pretty please, continue to make feminist alliances with Women of Color. I want the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:25 AM
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This is gonna sound like a chickened-out answer, but here’s what I think: Once all the preconditions have been met (she’s pleasant, pretty, and nice, he’s got a handsome face, a hot body, and is charismatic), then I’d say men and women are equally capable of loving the other person for “who they are.” I put that in scare quotes because there’s no such thing as “who you are” being something that makes an otherwise unattractive person attractive to the opposite sex. In other words, the “who you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:01 PM
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Oh you have no idea. There are plenty of things I talk about outside Reddit. Since you bought it up, and this is a Purge Week thread, I’ll just say here that the Civil Rights Movement was one of the most morally fraudulent causes of the last 1000 years. It was nothing more and nothing less then revenge against Whites. And now we’re seeing its hideous offspring known as Wokeness. You don’t get to act surprised that so many of us don’t care about your absurd grievances. The only thing our ancestor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:44 PM
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Except it was women who aggressively promoted that myth just as much as men. Its almost like women once helped keep each other in check. Seethe harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:37 PM
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I’m criticizing them for wanting policies that benefit only them. I can think of plenty of other liberal policies - such as safety regulations and infrastructure spending - that objectively benefits most people. Paid maternity leave and “healthcare” (free birth control pills, abortions, etc) don’t benefit society. Just AWFL’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:35 PM
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If a man approaches you in the first place - regardless of his place on the 0-10 scale - then he considers himself in your league at a bare minimum, and if you know that you're not a Stacy, then by him approaching you, he's effectively admitting he's not a Chad, which is what all women really want. So then, it makes sense from a woman's perspective to approach a man she is attracted to, because he's the prize, and she's the one who chases upwards (hypergamy) not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:46 PM
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I also know that people like you lied about it, and that lying is - allegedly - a bad thing that makes you a bad person, and that scolding someone for not noticing lies instead of explaining the lies to them is sociopathic. But, sure, I'm the sucker. In any case, my point is made. You don't care about one type of victim, and I sure as shit don't care about the other type. All is fair in love and war.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:47 AM
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I happened to watch one of the few comedies I actually enjoy - The Hangover (2009) - on Christmas break, and man, I predict Bradley Cooper and the cast will make a public apology for it by 2025. The character Melissa is pretty much the most accurate portrayal of modern women ever put on screen - specifically, College Educated Liberal White Women. We as men are gaslit into putting up with women like that. I don't agree with you that women can't feel emotion or express love, simply by virtue of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:42 AM
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Because literally everyone who talks about "White Supremacy" and "White Privilege" talks about them as if: They are bad things (okay, fair enough) Like "we" (White people) should care about dismantling them I ask you: If we shouldn't feel bad for the victims of societal gaslighting and feminism, then why should someone like me care about the victims of "White Supremacy" and "White Privilege?" This is the part where you'll say something about how your worldview is "backed by evidence and experts"…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:23 AM
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Cheers dude. I'm happy for you that you lived it up. I should have done the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:14 AM
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Interesting point about them not being accepted by the political left. Perhaps there is some utility in agreeing and amplifying the Left's racial rhetoric, which is already putting the entire Democratic Party in a serious bind: Too radical too appeal to the Right and the Moderates, not radical enough to appease their core base of College Educated White Liberals, and specifically, AWFL's. I'm a man of the Right, so I wish to see social liberalism and cultural liberalism marginalized period, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:05 AM
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Perpetual victim complex. Typical. Uh huh. This coming from a woman who has the audacity to complain about "White Male Privilege" and "White Supremacy." Kind of makes me think two certain regimes from 1860 and 1933 did nothing wrong. /s I'm not obligated to care about victims any more than you do. This shit works both ways. As long as I come out on top and get what I want, that's all that matters. If that's what the worlds coming to - and it so very clearly is - then bring it on. We conquered be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:57 AM
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Original point: Men were falsely conditioned to think women don't care about looks. You ladies do care about looks. A lot. And then, when we call out that lie, we get gaslit with BS such as "you should have figured that out yourself" or "wasn't it obvious?" Classic abuse tactics from cruel individuals with hostile intentions. I don't expect you to feel sorry that we were abused. I expect you to not act surprised when we figure out that the dynamic between men and women is indeed a power struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:26 AM
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Nice lawyer argument, but no, that's not what I was implying. And honestly, I don't care in this case if I could have worded it better or not, because you're not interested in ascertaining my true motives anyway. So its a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:17 AM
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Ok. So then why do women act shocked when those desirable, masculine men do what any rational man in their position would do and use you for sex and move on? Here's the thing: We men don't value relationships or commitment like women do. From the hottest Chads to the ugliest betas, we want to fuck as many beautiful women as possible, get that out of our system, and then move on to other things in life. It's a validation game. "High Value Men" the way you define it - Chad who wants commitment and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:50 AM
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The people who deny leagues exist and unironically think looksmatching isn't real are the people who have a deep, psychological need to believe that biological determinism doesn't exist - that everyone is a "blank slate" who can be molded into any type of person society desires. The way you know who is in your league is to ascertain who is attracted to you and shows interest in you. Whatever those people look like, that's the league you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:25 AM
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Only insofar as most cutting-edge memes are "White Supremacist" memes. Like it or not, the best memes originate on /pol/ and its adjacent boards. Every online person knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:21 AM
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Fair gripe. Beta used to mean any personality type that was meek and passive instead of assertive and aggressive. Now it means any man who isn't getting what he wants - what he really wants - from women. Hate to say it, because I have deeply held Right Wing convictions, but the Post-Modernists were basically right about the nature of Power. They won that debate. The dynamics between men and women are a power struggle now, and Alphas are any man who wins the power struggle at a personal level. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:19 AM
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"FDS Defender" User flair checks out. The Femcels and PinkPilled types are pretty much the only group of women who "get" why men are so bitter and miserable. Their needs are different from ours, but we understand each other at a psychic level. FDS types live in their own fantasy world where men exist to serve women - and not in a hot, femdom sort of way. In the cruel sort of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:12 AM
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Thanks for the advice, but my biology says otherwise. I'm physically attracted to women, and only women. That doesn't preclude me from noticing and acknowledging when men are hot/handsome. You ladies notice all the time when women are hot/beautiful, and I don't make assumptions about your sexuality. Show a little reciprocity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:08 AM
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It is. Commitment is inherently a losing scenario from a man's perspective because, even if he's a Chad, he's on a lower plane then her, and women, being hypergamous, cannot and will not tolerate that. This explains why even Brad Pitt and Ben Affleck were shown the divorce papers. They committed to Angelina and Jennifer and thereby made themselves inferior and subordinate to them, hence why we see Ben on the street recently looking like he was begging Jennifer to come back to him. I preach the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:05 AM
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Because there was supposedly a universal understanding, across all times and cultures, that men value looks and women don't care about looks. Hence why women wear makeup - among other things - to physically attract men, but men have never been socially pressured to physically attract women. Because we thought women didn't value looks and didn't care about looks. We were lied too. And no, it wasn't "obvious" that women valued looks. Not until we were too old and it was too late to do anything abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:49 AM
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I don't think its a matter of his woman being attractive or not. I think its a matter of whether she's as enthusiastic about sex as he wants her to be, or not. Men who watch porn do it for one reason, and one reason only: To satiate their sexual needs that they aren't getting from an IRL woman. It's not an "addiction" except insofar as the desire to see a naked, attractive woman is somehow inherently an addiction (which is a distinctly sex-negative, puritanical idea btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:40 AM
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Yes. And it's not their weight - I've actually gotten more interest from skinny girls then thicc girls - it's their face. The biggest reason I identify as Black Pilled is because I've literally never had a woman whose face I find attractive show romantic or sexual interest in me. I'm able to get the body type I like (which, by the way, is actually on the thicker side). But I value facial attractiveness above all else, and well, I've never liked any of my options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:30 AM
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Eh, I give her credit for actually showing up and confronting her ideological enemies on this sub, but IMO, she argues in bad faith. That said, I agree with your general point. Most of the commenters on this sub "get it," in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 08:22 AM
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Based and Truth Pilled. Condoms are for social liberals in urban areas who have mechanical, robotic coitus in the doggy position. Raw or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:47 AM
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I feel bad for young men in the 18-24 demographic, especially the ones in college. I'm a 32 year old Millennial, and honestly, I breezed through college (2008-2012) completely ignorant of all these different social dynamics. My peers insist to me that if I actually got involved in the game, I would have noticed that sex was on demand in those days. In other words, it was harder not to get laid then to get laid so long as you went to a party. I always detested the idea of house parties from what …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:40 AM
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To be fair, Blue Pillers don't tend to find their way to these kind of threads, as they don't know what "Blue Pill vs. Red Pill" is to begin with, and in any case, they don't explicitly identify as such. It's a bit counterintuitive to be aware of your own ignorance or naivety. That said, the Redpillers basically won the debate. What we see on threads like this is just the fall out. I've noticed more and more Normies are becoming wise to what the RedPill has preached since like 2009. Prophets a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:33 AM
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It's not anyone's obligation to "figure things out for themselves" when we could have just been told the truth by people who supposedly care about us. You made the "every man his own Commissar" norm. Now deal with the inevitable consequences. Such as bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:29 AM
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Meh, they seem to like younger men for sex. And they can be quite enthusiastic about that. I've had more interest from women 10-15 years older then me compared to my own peers (I'm 32).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:27 AM
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You're talking about a specific type of White woman here, not White women in general. What you're referring to is called an AWFL: Affluent White Female Liberal. I've known my fair share of working class, non-college White women, and they are basically decent people who aren't offended by my Right Wing beliefs and values. Affluent, College-Educated White women with liberal values are the Karens we see on television and social media, and they are indeed arguably the worst group of people in the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:21 AM
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Nah, they're just a bunch of entitled narcissists who want to be able to get away with being shitty human beings who never need to change anything on the inside. What they want more than anything else is to be "accepted for who they are." Invariably, "who they are" is a selfish POS who gives nothing and expects everything. It's parasitic. Men have no obligation to put up with it. If they wanted actual femdom, that would be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:14 AM
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Nice Things Pilled. I love American Suburban life and everything about it: The houses, restaurants, grocery stores, shopping malls, movie theaters, musical tastes (rap and hip hop excepted), sports arenas, and - insofar as they are Socially and Culturally Conservative - the people who live here. It's the pinnacle of human existence. The end of history. My childhood was golden. My adulthood has been miserable because a bunch of awful people - Social Liberals, mostly - have conspired to make it mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:08 AM
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Maybe? I definitely have varied interests, and got along with all the different cliques in highschool, but I don't think socializing, or lack thereof, was the cause of my problems. Attracting women requires knowing what they want, and delivering it. What they want is a hot guy with basic social skills. The rest is just details.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:01 AM
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They're mad because they were falsely told "it's what's on the inside that counts," when in fact, nothing on the inside can change what's ugly on the outside. So naturally, they become ugly on the inside. The whole point of being liked for who you are on the inside is that you can be fat, unwashed, unshaved, and get away with it just as long as you're not rude, narcissistic, or stupid. The inside is supposed to nullify the outside. No one has a fucking obligation to be pretty or nice looking on …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:44 AM
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There really isn't. The women who signal against Pick Me's are, in all likelihood, miserable RadFem castaways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:36 AM
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Why do you find Indicators of Interest to be cringe? I think they’re a useful life hack, at least from a guy’s perspective. Yes, I’m aware that a man still needs to close the deal, but once a woman is interested, that’s a lot easier. It sounds to me like you want a guy to go through a prolonged flirtation stage. Since you also said you went through a hoe phase, I’m guessing you were one of those girls who just enjoyed guys chasing you at bars and clubs because it gave you an ego rush. Now you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:40 PM
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I feel like we got off topic. My main point wasn’t about what does or doesn’t work in certain situations, my main point was that social skills are overrated, and are not some sort of necessary skill a man must have to be a good person. You led off with a major emphasis on social skills, and to me, that’s just classic Bernaysian propaganda designed to make extroverts feel safer in the world at the expense of introverts. That’s what I took issue with. BTW, my observation of those casual settings i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:30 PM
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Apparently RedPillers do. Buy their book and they can tell you all about it! 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:23 PM
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Social skills may be necessary for dating and relationships, but not for casual sex. You can talk like a grug brain, but as long as you’re attractive, women also looking for casual sex won’t be turned off by it. Most guys on threads like this one are looking for casual sex. We don’t care about dating or relationships because those are just scams for women to extract resources from some desperate beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:22 PM
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lack of socialization skills they need to learn You speak of the first thing like its bad and the second as if its necessary. Contrary to a centuries worth of propaganda designed to make extroverts feel like the center of the world, atomization is not a bad thing. Its a good, healthy thing for introverts. It makes the world safer for us. We deserve to feel safe as much as extroverts do, which means we don’t have any sort of moral obligation to socialize or learn social skills if it hurts and we …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:11 AM
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Has nobody in this sub ever once in their life gone to a bar or a party?? Why would we attend those when: We weren’t invited because we aren’t part of the Chad/Stacy clique of hot, cool kids. They are boring and degenerate “Go to parties bro.” No. Ideally, you need to be in an environment where people are all relaxing and just there to have a good time God thats so cringe to read. Its a public space dude. There’s no such thing as “relaxing” in a public space, or “having a good time” the way you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:44 AM
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Its the natural consequence of women verbally declaring and giving off strong signals they don’t want men approaching them. Since most of us men are, in fact, decent, we obey them and don’t approach them. We expect them to approach us instead, if they are interested. And then what happens is we’ll exchange eye glances with women here and there, but nothing will come of it. I honestly embrace this new normal. Its pathetic for men to chase women, independent of the #MeToo danger of it. Men should …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:36 AM
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I feel neutral towards Diabla and supportive of Vindicta. Both forums seem to have a culture of “shut up and get things done,” which automatically puts them leagues ahead of FDS and its toxic complaining. I feel neutral towards Diabla because it seems like the contempt for men is still implicit, and I wish the sexes didn’t hate each other, but honestly, as long as it doesn’t boil to the surface in the form of explicit bitterness, I can’t judge the contempt too harshly. In a world where second wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:49 AM
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Stopping by here well after the fact to say this post was a big White Pill. I needed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:54 AM
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I’ll attempt to answer your implicit question at the end of why women are vilified on this thread: Because you feel entitled to love and want to be treated like first class citizens, without giving anything in return. Then you have the gall to criticize men for treating relationships as the transactional exchanges that they are. To be fair, we were all lied to by pop culture and society. We’re all as naive as Anna from Frozen about the myth of “True Love.” I get why women want to be “accepted as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:01 AM
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Forget about it. Respect is given when its earned, and not a moment sooner. Until then, its cold indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:13 AM
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They do when they are trying to please her. Which is what she wants. Or so she says. If what she really wants is for all her flaws to be accepted, and for her to be treated as a co-equal partner regardless of character and actions, then about 100% of men will find those conditions horrible and unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:11 AM
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The bottom line is you take objection to men putting women on a pedestal, and your reasoning for that objection is bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 07:32 AM
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In my value system, seeing anyone as superior on inferior is not immoral so long as it's backed up by character and actions, which was my point to you. It would be unfair to categorically see all women or all men this way, but your argument was that men who put women on a pedestal implicitly see women as inferior - that we need to be told to put them on a pedestal, otherwise we'll default to seeing them as inferiors. I'm telling you that whether we pedestalize you or not - whether we see you as …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:45 AM
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You said, "showing the respect and consideration due anyone's equal." Given your past comments and general vibe, I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you meant that a woman has already proven she was his equal. Your comment can fairly be interpreted as implicitly stating that women are due respect and consideration just because they exist, without having to prove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:19 AM
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Depends on the flaw. If you leave messes on the kitchen table, that’s forgivable and fixable. If you nag and shit test all the time over every impertinent detail, then any man with self-respect will show you the door. Some flaws are fine, others are intolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:42 AM
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Or perhaps women could just behave in a way that causes men to naturally respect them and give them consideration? You’re not born anyone’s equal. Your character and your actions will demonstrate whether you or - or are not - someone’s equal. Respect and consideration is earned, not given.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:37 AM
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The RedPill is mostly about cold realism, whereas FDS is 100% pure bitterness and spite from College Educated, Affluent, Liberal women who fancy themselves Aristocrats but in fact have all of their cruel traits - arrogance, haughtiness, entitlement - and none of their noble traits. FDS is the inevitable endgame of second wave feminism and its rotten fruits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:51 AM
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I find her physically attractive. (My own standards there are subjective and arbitrary) High sex drive. Wants kids of her own. With me. Socially and culturally conservative beliefs (I can forgive a promiscuous lifestyle if she recognizes that was the wrong way to live) Would prefer to be a SAHM, or at the very least, doesn’t put any sort of emphasis on making her own money Understands the balance between her own desires and whats good for society. Most women do not meet this standard Loves child…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:46 AM
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32M. Lost it at 29 with the woman of a couple I met from Craigslist and played with a few times. I’ve had sex with one other woman, also the female half of a Craigslist couple. I’ve never had sex alone with a woman who I seduced before. Likely never will. Women treat men they are attracted to like Kings, and they treat everyone else like serfs. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:29 AM
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Truth. A friend of mine - who, to his credit, is married - keeps telling me that being quiet and listening is a good way to build attraction. I guess that worked for him, but I literally can’t imagine anything more boring then listening to the impertinent details of some person I don’t know and don’t have a reason (yet) to care about. What about me and my feelings and needs? Or do those not matter to her? Sure seems like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:38 AM
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The world would be a better place if both men and women admitted how much looks mattered. Maybe net happiness wouldn’t increase, but net contentment would, because all of us would finally be able to find a way to cope, instead of wondering if our fairy tale delusions - “he/she really likes me for who I am on the inside” - are true. I’m a self-interested guy, so I put more onus on women to be honest about looks, but frankly, the pink pillers aren’t wrong about how much we men value looks. Its eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:24 AM
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Maybe what you’re saying is true. Maybe it isn’t. What I know from experience and observation is this: There are some men who women throw themselves at, and there are other men who women make work for their attention. The men who need to put in work and effort are seen as physically unattractive by women, whereas the men that women throw themselves at are always, 100% of the time, physically attractive. My attitude is this: If I’m not naturally the kind of man who women throw themselves at, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:18 AM
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Good answer. Hell, forget dating. I’m to the point where if a girl and I are exchanging flirty glances, I leave it up to her to make the first move and approach me. I never approach anymore. Doesn’t matter how obvious it is that she’s into me. I’ve seen enough attractive girls make the first move on guys they are attracted to, that if they don’t do the same to me, I assume I’m not sufficiently attractive enough to impress them, and I move on. One girl got visibly upset with me once when we saw e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:42 AM
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What women want is universally the same: A physically attractive, high value man. What men want in a woman is for her to desire us and be sexually attracted to us. We compare ourselves to other men because if other men got the exact same chick into bed early and we didn’t, then those men are obviously objectively superior to us, usually in the looks department. So, we move on to a woman who is actually attracted to us and will put out when we want them to, which is early in the relationship. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 05:12 AM
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In fairness, she said she’s in her 30s. It is known that a woman’s sex drive spikes in her 30s. Would be nice if women in their early 20s were just as horny as men of that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:30 AM
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I would give women the same sex drive as men, and I’d make them attracted to their looksmatch while feeling intimidated and not interested in men above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 06:59 AM
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What I mean by that is girls who are 4-6 are only sexually attracted to men who are 8-10. In real life, sure, they settle for men who are their looksmatch, but then it results in things like r/deadbedroom. In other words, just because 4-6 women might end up in a relationship with 4-6 men doesn’t mean she is sexually attracted to those 4-6 men, which is what us men really want. I think what’s going on is this: A small handful of plain looking women are genuinely shallow and genuinely are sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:41 PM
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Online validation by random strangers aint the same as IRL validation from an attractive woman. Also, I don’t care what the “Current Year” morals are, there’s nothing wrong with a man chasing validation from women if he needs it for his self-esteem (which many men do)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:37 PM
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The validation is the point. The relationship doesn’t matter. Men wanting validation is not the bad thing you make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:12 PM
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Makes sense. Strictly speaking, I would disagree that men are not hypergamous, but since the accusation of “you’re hypergamous too!” is leveled by RadFems against men all the time, I’m sympathetic to your underlying principle, which is to defend men from BS accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:10 AM
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I think I get what you’re saying, but it misses the point. The original question was asking how an accusation of hypocrisy is either valid or invalid, and I was explaining that this particular example of hypergamy is both valid and invalid once we parse out the nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:50 AM
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Here’s mine: I’ll respond to the claim that men hate hypergamy while engaging in hypergamy themselves. This accusation has a degree of merit. As men, yes, we want to attract and sleep with the hottest woman we can get. We also have a minimal level of attraction that is required for a relationship or a fling, and we will stick to that minimal baseline regardless of how ugly or unattractive we are ourselves. As the ladies like to say, attraction can’t be negotiated. So, in this sense, men are inde…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:14 AM
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Maybe for a relationship. Not for sexual attraction, which is what I really want from them. When it comes to sexual attraction, looks trumps all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 08:30 PM
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Its pretty interesting having a discussion with someone who identifies as White Pilled and is therefore my natural opposite. Anyway…. Even if you're an inexperienced 25 year old, that's not plastered on your forehead - you can practice, "fake it" a bunch of times That’s just it though, it kind of is. Women become bitter and resentful when they find out they are dealing with an actor - when they find out they are being “played.” And by that I don’t mean “played” by the actual tactics, which they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:21 PM
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Indeed. But I’m perpetually about 10 years behind the rest of my peers. 22 year old me had the social intelligence and maturity of an average 12 year old, and 32 year old me learned things that are typically figured out by 22. I’ll say this: Having the social intelligence of a pre-teen had its own advantages for where I was at in life at the time. I’d say it wasn’t until my late 20s that I started paying the consequences of lacking social skills. In highschool and college, not having social skil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:04 PM
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Here’s my critique of your whole thread: Although your goal is clearly to get the lazy posters on here to read, understand, and (presumably) apply the Red Pill, in reality, your proposed techniques only work on men who are not sexually inexperienced past a certain age - I’d say no older than 20 or 21. None of this advice is relevant or useful to sexually inexperienced men older than that. Your argument about the guy in the virginity thread who got 70 upvotes can be used as an obvious justificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:32 AM
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32 year old male. Became Blackpilled over the last year. I honestly don’t know if I’m banned from other subs, because I’ve never bothered to comment on them for the reasons you mentioned. They are lefty feminist echo chambers. I’m generally able to say what I want here on PPD, and I’ve learned a lot from reading the honest takes of different women on here. It hurts, but its necessary for me to digest it. I’ll always be a lurker on this thread, if not always an active commenter
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:13 AM
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the bottom 20% of men, which is what redpillers and blackpillers are I doubt that’s true, whether from a social standpoint or a looks standpoint. The surveys and polls of PPD members dating back to March 2014 show that most of the users on here are college educated, which means at the very least, we aren’t NEETs or high school dropouts. As for looks, although I’m sure there are outliers, most of the time, when a Blackpilled PPD user shares his pic, it turns out he’s reasonably attractive and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 05:38 PM
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There’s a lot to unpack there, and I’ve got to say, I find nothing entitled about wanting a woman to love you even though you may “dress like shit” and “don’t look after yourself.” This is a perfectly logical conclusion from a lifetime of learning that True Love is loving someone for who they are. Clearly, dressing poorly and not taking care of yourself is a core aspect of who someone is. Sure, it may be “ugly” or “gross,” but True Love doesn’t care about ugly or gross. If it does, then its not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:36 AM
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Attractive man. An attractive woman has to compete with other attractive women for a man’s attention, whereas an attractive man gets swarmed with attention from women because of the 80/20 rule. Life as an attractive man in 2021 is top tier living.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:22 AM
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Maybe this has changed in the last decade now that OLD is a thing and men can more easily just send dick pics or phizeek pics, but an age old adage is that men treat women with respekt and pretend to love them just to get inside their pants. It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:35 PM
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I don’t agree with some of your specific points, but honestly, this was a well thought-out response, and I appreciate that you took the time to go into detail, using your personal experiences as a reference point. Thats better than I can say about every other gal who has responded to me tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:51 AM
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Men are allowed to be hurt and upset over the fact women don’t compliment them just as women are allowed to be over the fact men use them Except they’re not. If men and women are both doing what’s in their individual interest, and if individual interest is given primacy by society, then right does anyone have to complain when the outcomes of those decisions don’t benefit them? In order to have the right to complain, you have to have a society that rewards altruism and reciprocity. If everyone is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:33 AM
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The peasants are monoliths. But each Aristocrat is a special individual who must be treated, uh, individually. (2016 Me would throw around a word that begins with S and rhymes with “Beshel Brosteak”)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:09 AM
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what a man does after that interest is sparked determines where things go from that point on Or so you claim. In reality, if a hot dude said the dorkiest, cringiest thing imaginable around women, they would giggle and say “he’s cute.” Cringe shit is only a turn off when it comes from a man who is not physically attractive to begin with. His cringiness or autistic behavior confirms what you already suspected and knew. Genuinely attractive men literally can’t ruin sexual attraction with their beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:41 AM
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I get it just fine. You’re too narcissistic to give men compliments. Your alibi is, “they might text me or call me when I don’t want them to.” If there was a threat of assault behind those texts and calls, I’d be sympathetic. There isn’t, so I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:31 AM
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The whining will stop when the rhetoric and words of people aligns with their behavior. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:21 AM
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What I’m hearing is, “how dare they inconvenience me!” Some threat. If they get your phone number or email through a third source, just block them. If they get your home address, then you’ve got some suspect friends/acquaintances for them to just give away sensitive information, in which case, you’ve got a bigger problem then whichever dude is inconveniencing you. (The nerve of him)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:20 AM
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What does complimenting a man give me that makes it worth the risk? And what does saying “I love you” to a woman give me if she doesn’t spread her legs for me? See how this logic works? I'm not going to acquire a stalker just because men are sad and lonely And I’m not going to stop demanding sex and beauty just because women feel its “shallow.” Again, this shit cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:10 AM
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Lets recap this: *You originally claimed that how a man behaves determines your physical attraction to him, as opposed to his looks *Someone called BS on that, pointing out that what women claim they are attracted to (“emotions” “actions” etc) and how they act around hot men are two different things. *You replied to him by mocking the idea that a person can accurately gauge another persons intentions based on their actions, thus implicitly admitting that how women act and what they claim they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:04 AM
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So these men didn’t even….contact you? They asked someone else for your number and contact info? I’m failing to see the problem here. Where’s the threat? You simply don’t want to give men compliments about their looks, no matter the situation. Has nothing to do with “life experience” and everything to do with narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:53 AM
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Me and my lying male eyes, right? I guess there’s a reason people want to be judged by “who they are” and not, you know, what they do. (Hint: They’re the same thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:51 AM
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You’ve got me there. I’ve made women say “uh????” many times when I ask off-the-wall nerdy questions that only someone like me cares about. (Not even making that up). Doesn’t change the facts about physical attraction. Men have it or they don’t, and 80% of us don’t have it. Thats a problem - a problem I wish women would just admit. In fairness, some of the answers on here from women have admitted it. I appreciate the honesty. You should try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:49 AM
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Asking for your number isn’t the same thing as stalking or assault. Frankly, its not dangerous at all. A minor annoyance at best. If you refuse to compliment men because they might ask for your number, then grow some lady balls and learn to tell men you won’t give them your number. Its not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:44 AM
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On that we agree. Although I’m sure your “truth” is the opposite of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:43 AM
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Nah. What a person does in plain sight speaks for itself. Its one thing to plead context or intention in the case of a police video or some other public incident, its another thing when you see everything in front of your face and have the whole context for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:41 AM
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Great answer. So many people - including a lot of men - will deny this, but for both genders, “emotional connection” doesn’t mean much for sexual attraction if the physical attraction isn’t there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:34 AM
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I don’t deny that there is a (minimal) risk, I deny that its a justification for not giving compliments at all. Your logic is akin to, “I’m never going outside because I might get raped.” Strictly speaking, you can’t get raped if you don’t go outside. Therefore, its logical to never go outside, right? /s One of two things is going on here: Women don’t compliment men because they don’t find them physically attractive Women don’t compliment men, even if they find them physically attractive, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:24 AM
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And so what if women care about attractiveness as much as men? Because you love to deny that women care about looks or sex as much as men, when clearly, at least when it comes to looks, you do indeed care just as much. Don’t ever judge men for being “shallow” when women are just as physically shallow as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:44 AM
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I appreciate your honest answer. What you said here checks out with my own observations of women’s behavior. They like to check men out when no one is looking. Nothing wrong with that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:40 AM
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There’s only potential danger when you compliment a man, not actual danger. To assume there will always be danger when you compliment a man, and thus, to stop complimenting men entirely, is to…gasp…generalize. It’d be nice if you used the vibe you get around guys to discriminate between guys who might stalk you and guys who might just have their day made. But instead, its no compliments for any guy, ever. Yes, we internalize that shit and assume we must not be attractive. If women value affectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:17 AM
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I think a good middle point between college towns, which are full of hot people (which they always have been), and Wal Mart or supermarkets, which are full of average-ugly people, is shopping malls. Those are the places I’m most likely to see a handful of actual Instagram thots walking around, yoga pants and all. I’d say the ratio of average/ugly to hot people at shopping malls is 70:30, which sounds like the norm for any given era. That said, I do think the norm for the top 30% has gone way up …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:50 PM
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100% the third philosophy. The first one is bluepilled nonsense built for the whims of an egalitarian era. We aren’t created equal, which means we don’t have equal worth or value. We don’t all have something to bring to the table. The second philosophy has some truth to it, but it also implies a false premise: That effort can “fix” or make up for inherent inequalities, which is not true. To use a sports example, no amount of effort or training will make a naturally slow sprinter as fast as Usain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:02 PM
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Would you now drop certain non-sexual assets in your life (friendships, family, hobbies etc) in order to make room for all that sex? Not exactly. Most of my daily routine wouldn’t change. I’d still get up every day and go to work, I’d still come home and spend almost all my free time on the internet, and I’d still do my regular weekend routine - out to eat for breakfast, groceries, and laundry. What would change, slightly, is my evening plans. I don’t have as high of a sex drive as other men. 2 …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:49 PM
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Your so-called “standards” amount to: “Do the things I want you to do, and don’t do the things I don’t want you to do.” Fuck that. I’m an adult. I’ll do what I want and not do what I don’t want whether anyone else likes it or not. As for your claims of mistreatment by men, some women tell the truth about it, but many others straight up lie or distort. Boy who cried wolf. I lost my sympathy awhile ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:21 PM
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I’m summarizing here, but to me, conventional masculinity is a combo of two things: Being a Lover and a Protector. Having interests and hobbies that are stereotypically male, such as watching sports and playing video games. FDS women tend to hate the hobbies and activities that men are into, they resent it when a man takes on the provider role, and they are sex-negative, which means they tend to be grossed out by the physical aspects of sex and instead try to put it on a pedestal like the Evange…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:18 PM
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Don’t care, didn’t ask, plus, you want to take my video games and sportsball away. And you don’t like sex. Or red meat. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:13 PM
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I hope you’re right about that, because in the political circles I run in - not lefty stuff, mind you - they seem ubiquitous. Several of them posted their personality tests which said they are androgynous, and one of them specifically said she likes, and I quote, “twinks.” What I’m saying is, the women of FDS do not like conventional masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:35 PM
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This is a bit simplistic, but the vibe I get from FDS is that its the place where all the RadFems (Radical Feminists) come to bitch about men, and TRP is a combo of PUA’s (pickup artists) who don’t hate women but use them for sex and give tips on how to do it, and genuine actual incels who hate women and bitch about them. TRP is more intellectually diverse in that way than FDS, which several women here on TPP have said is an echo-chamber with little room for disagreement on core beliefs. FDS att…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:34 PM
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I’ll know by the vibe she gives around me. As long as I’m paying attention, its obvious when a woman is interested in me and when she’s not. I can see it in her face and body language, hear it in her voice, and feel her psychic energy. I’m personally a wannabe fuckboi, but the reason I identify as Purplepilled is because I also have a spot in my heart for true love. Always have. Last night, I watched the 1993 cult classic film, “Batman: Mask of the Phantasm,” and the kind of intense mutual attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:03 AM
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I enjoy sex with women I’m also interested in as people Again, I don’t deny that this is a thing that sometimes happens in the real world. Whether guys such as yourself who proclaim it on the internet are being sincere or virtue signaling is another question. What I’ll tell you is this: It is not, in fact, obvious that a man “does” or “should” want to spend time with women he enjoys having sex with. If your argument is that the OP’s core point is wrong, well, maybe you ought to consider that mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:37 PM
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I’m open to reading sources confirming or casting doubt on the authenticity of those videos. If you have them. Simply dismissing those videos and channels as Obviously Fake doesn’t cut it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:29 PM
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Dunno. I specifically had Connor Murphy and his fitness bro friends in mind, and also this other guy - can’t remember his name - who goes up to random women on the street and gets them to kiss him. Connor kind of went loony tunes and doesn’t do women-chasing videos anymore, but like, I doubt the reactions of the girls in his shirtless prank videos were manufactured acting, especially since he actually got rejected by a group of married religious housewives in one of them. The point is, when a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:34 PM
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You’re not the only guy on the planet who does that - sometimes men and women just click, fall in love, and get married - but if you find yourself wanting to spend more time with every woman you have sex with, then you might be motivated less by feelings of genuine romance and more out of desperation because you’re implicitly trying to “lock her down.” Men with high sexual market value don’t feel any need to lock a woman down because they know there’s always another one, which is kind of what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:23 PM
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Perhaps you’ve never encountered one in person, but they exist. There are Youtube videos of fit, mostly charismatic Chads who get women on the street to fall for them immediately, and - its heavily implied - sleep with them that evening. Without fail, the women they sleep with are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:16 PM
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Nah. Culture and Values >>>>>Economics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:13 PM
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The difference before is that LuVe! wasn’t put on a pedestal and deified like it is now. Sure, you could say that men and women “fell in love” in the past, but, to borrow the words of 19th century English writer and art critic Walter Pater: ”Life can only have a limited number of worthy sensations, and the problem of living is to focus oneself on where “the greatest number of vital forces unite in their purest energy.” To burn always with this hard, gemlike flame, to maintain ecstasy, is success…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:08 PM
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No, we spend money and effort mitigating rape, which, contrary to feminist belief, 99% of men are not rapists. “Sexual violence” is like climate change: A catch all term designed to conceal a bullshit agenda. No one supports rape except for social outcasts on the Alt Right. As for your second point: Sure, we could also eliminate the sex drive entirely. I’m cool either way. The bottom line is that a biological mismatch between male and female sexuality is causing misery and suffering, for both se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:11 PM
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Your MLM example is a bit disingenuous. It is true that some MLM salesmen know exactly what they are doing - that they are selling bullshit and trying to get gullible others to buy into said bullshit - but let me tell you my own story: Three years ago, in the summer of 2018, a guy I went to highschool with convinced me to buy Term Life Insurance and to invest in a diversified mutual portfolio, including a Roth IRA. I should have done that ten years prior, as I would have had a lot more money sav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 11:00 PM
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I honestly wouldn’t be opposed to that - genetic engineering that eradicates the male sex drive or reduces it to women’s level. Either way though, we should take all means to make the sexuality of men and women exactly the same, that way there is less misery and more happiness and contentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:40 PM
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“If we don’t treat men like 2nd class citizens, they’ll lash out violently.” Nice justification for subordination right there. Not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:36 PM
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I agree its a double standard, and that men shouldn’t demand that a woman sleep with them and only them. I also don’t care enough to call it out or make a crusade of it in a world where my own desires and needs as a man are demonized and criticized. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:25 PM
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Unless you are talking about a few very specific techniques. Otherwise, saying women actually LIKE PUA strategies That’s not what I’m saying. I think that, with most PUA techniques, most women just roll their eyes in annoyance or boredom. Like, “sure buddy, I’ve heard that one before.” And some specific techniques, like negging, are legitimately wrong, as they bring down a woman’s self-worth, and thus harm her. So no, I’m not saying that women “like” PUA techniques, I’m saying that women like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:20 PM
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More Puritan thinking. I’m very much attracted to an Aphrodite type woman who loves sex and has lots of it with different men. As long as I myself am attractive to her and satisfying to her, I wouldn’t care if she needed a variety of men in her bed. But that’s just me. I get what you’re saying about male expectations of female exclusivity, and how its unfair and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:03 PM
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Trans dont have vaginas, so no, I don’t want that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 06:01 PM
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Correct. Which is why gene splicing or engineering will be needed to fix it. Still though, there needs to be a cultural focus on why women’s biological needs and desires are validated and put on a pedestal, whereas mens are demonized and dismissed as invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:23 PM
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In my observations, most women who hate PUA don’t hate the strategies, but the results. They hate that it can be used as a clever method for men to get sex, which implies that its the getting of sex that they don’t like, not the strategies per say. Having a high N count doesn’t necessarily equal sex positivity, btw. Alexander Grace of YT had a good video about this the other day. Sure, some promiscuous women have lots of sex because they genuinely love sex, but what happens to a lot promiscuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:01 PM
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A lot of Puritans on here complaining about “muh past.” Sorry, but inside most of us, men and women alike, is a desire to spread our wild oats, even if its just for a phase. 100% agreed with the OP that its important to get that out of our system before a long term partner is even considered. Obey your nature and instincts. Succumb to them. Life is happier that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:48 PM
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you have no idea the level of disgust and horror I felt Were you disgusted by the specific, admittedly questionable strategies of PUA? Or were you, as I suspect, disgusted by the endgame of PUA, which is getting sex? If its the former, sure, yeah, PUA has a lot of machivallean bullshit that those of us with a strong moral compass won’t like. But if its the later, then honey, just like all the ladies at FDS and all the authoritarian weirdos in the Evangelical Purity movement, you have a sex-negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:42 PM
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I don’t want you to be a slave. I want your sexuality to resemble a man’s. I want you to be attracted to and satisfied with the men in your league, especially if, like most women, you’re a 4-6 (law of averages). I want looks-based hypergamy to disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:27 PM
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to have a world with indentured female servitude Sounds to me like you think we unironically want The HandMaid’s Tale. Speaking for myself, I actually prefer to cook my own meals, and I’m fine with cleaning my own clothes and keeping my place tidy (for my own standards anyway). So no, I don’t want indentured servitude. What I want, which I can’t have through the traditional “reform” route - political or cultural - is for women to have the exact same sexuality as men. I want you to desire sex, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:22 PM
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The other problem is that the entire concept of a "Chad" seems not to be supported by the evidence. Science suggests that, at least on a physical level, women actually disagree on who the most attractive men are. So women may indeed be cheating with their idea of a "Chad"; but there's no need for them to share their "Chad" with other women, because other women likely don't see her partner as a "Chad" I’m not sure if your conclusion about that study is accurate. Let me zoom in on a quote from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:20 PM
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Option 2, without a doubt. I think all of us guys who are shy about approaching would quickly grow out of that shyness if we knew for certain that the juice was always worth the squeeze. If girls were open to our sexual advances, approaching her and initiating things would be no more painful than placing your food order in the drive thru. Its the fear - and the reality - of rejection that makes initiating and approaching so taxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:32 PM
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especially if I’m not sure I’m that into him You know that out of the gate. If you have to “decide” whether you are attracted to a man you’re dating, then what you’re really doing is figuring out whether he’s worth settling for or not, which no man with any self-worth has time for. We want you to be physically attracted to us out of the gate. Otherwise, next. Its why the hot guys never settle. They know their value and use it to get what they want - what all guys want - which is NSA sex with as …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:27 PM
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Having a confident personality and being positive both mean nothing compared to looks. A bitter, negative, hot guy will get more attention and sex from girls than a confident, positive, average-ugly guy. Advising average men to “be more confident” is useless and, indeed, is a lie by omission. Your last statement is a denial of pattern noticing and indicates you’re more interested in preserving your own narrative than telling the truth. NAXALT doesn’t change the realities about crime stats and me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:50 AM
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Except it does if you assume, as +90% of women on these threads do, that college men care about looks and only looks. Lets do some logical deduction: If college men are looks obsessed, and if college women value looks in sexual partners as much as college men, than that makes college women looks obsessed, even though they love to claim, pErSoNaLiTy matters just as much as looks!” You’ve got one of two choices: Accept that women are just as “obsessed” with looks as men, and own it. Or stop claimi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:26 AM
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The fact that you put looks No.1 and do NOT, in any way shape or form, tie a man’s attractiveness to his personality. Attractiveness=100% physical. You pretend like a man’s personality can make him more attractive. Bullshit. Personality is irrelevant compared to looks in the eyes of women. We wish you were honest about this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:19 AM
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That’s true. My goals and preferences with women pale in comparison to my life long, elusive mission for acceptance from others. I ask you: Is there something wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 04:37 PM
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So what do you think explains anecdotal stories where a sexless guy goes to a bar or a public place with his attractive male friend, and the hot girls gravitate towards him? If its not looks, what is it? Vibe? Aura? I get that guys have to physically show up to get attention, but once a man has shown up, how do you explain how he gets no female attention at all whereas conventionally attractive men get women walking up to them and hitting on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:15 PM
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Me and my lying eyes, right? Whether its with a topic I can’t mention here, or with women and sex, the denial of patterns, and pathologizing those who notice patterns, is common among folks like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:09 PM
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are you not dating for your own goals and preferences? Answer: No, I’m not. For two reasons: My own goals and preferences don’t matter, to myself or to others. Sure, deep down inside, I have expectations for what I want from women, but I don’t expect them to actually be taken seriously. Because others don’t take them seriously, I don’t either. Its not just women who don’t care about our individual goals as men. Its family, friends, and society. Because as a man, expressing your goals and prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:41 AM
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And yet we’ve all seen that one guy who gets girls without effort. So yeah, you’re wrong. Chads don’t put in any kind of work. They don’t need to. Girls do it all for them. You’re lying of you insist otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:44 AM
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This. Girls actively avoid you when you are average or unattractive (same difference in their mind). Yesterday, I was in Santa Cruz, CA, which is a hotbed for hot people, and even though I did my hair well and wasn’t wearing bad clothes, I still had hot girls look the other way or ignore me each time I passed them by. One time, a pair of two hot girls deliberately crossed the street to avoid walking in front of me when they saw me enter the sidewalk from the beach gate. Attractive girls want not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:38 AM
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Confirmed: Cultural Liberalism is a symptom of a problematic individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:25 PM
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She truly wants the alpha jock and she truly wants the responsible, Godly man The destiny of modern women is to forever be denied such a man, because he doesn’t exist. The responsible, Godly men are usually unattractive betas, and the Alpha Chads know their worth and enjoy the buffet of women and sex that gets thrown at them. Its no wonder women are miserable. What they truly want, they can’t have.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/21 03:02 PM
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Sort of. I think the men and women who are just looking for casual sex will find each other, and I think men like me who need to be validated as attractive will weed out the women who won’t accommodate that. What I don’t think will happen is that a woman will be able to withhold sex from a Chad and expect the Chad to hang around, simply because the vast majority of Chads aren’t looking for relationships. So yes, you’re free to withhold sex for two months or however long, but most men you find at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:40 AM
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Agreed. What a sad way to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:05 PM
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Do you think women who have high body counts and feel guilty about it also implicitly see sex as demeaning to women? Because when I read stuff on FDS, it sure does seem like a sex-negative place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:54 PM
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It’s a freeing feeling, isn’t it? I hate being vulnerable to anyone. Much better to be the predator. 😈
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 08:00 PM
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I’m 32. Your assumption is fair. The last woman I dated, we met once per week for three weeks before I decided I was bored and moved on. We fooled around but didn’t have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:58 PM
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If I went on multiple dates with a girl in that two month span (+3 or more), and she still didn’t sleep with me, I’d assume she wasn’t attracted to me and would move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 07:46 PM
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To answer your question in Point No.2, here’s the problem I have when a woman sleeps with Chad but forces other men to wait: When a man fuck zones a woman, its within the context of a casual situation. A fling, a FWB, or whatever. Sure, some men are dishonest about this and lead women on into assuming its a relationship when in fact he only wants sex, but you gals should give yourselves more credit: Most of you are good at detecting that. The ones who dont are usually young (under 21), gullible,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:39 PM
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I’m gonna make a pop culture reference to demonstrate what I would do: In the Harley Quinn show, there’s a scene in season 2 where Ivy and Harley are sitting at the docks discussing life goals while Ivy gets revenge on the ACE Chemicals board members. At this point in the show, Ivy is conflicted over where she wants to go in life. She now finds herself with all sorts of obligations and commitments to different people that prevent her from being who she is and doing what she actually wants to do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:16 PM
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The women who have low self-esteem tend to be the ones who have high body counts but don’t want to have high body counts. They desperately want to settle down and form an LTR with a hot man, but they keep on striking out because hot men know their value and won’t settle for any woman unless she treats him like an absolute King, which precious few women have any interest in doing. Promiscuous women are promiscuous by choice. Their lifestyle is in harmony with who they are, and they naturally don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:05 PM
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Your Whataboutism amounts to the equivalent of "they cry out in pain as they strike you." I'd say you've learned well from your masters, except that implies you would have thought or behaved differently if you weren't brainwashed. There is something in the Liberal psyche that is unstable and opposed to accepting reality. It's a genetic and/or spiritual thing. I know not which. In any case, our values could not be more opposed, and I'm comfortable in saying that the so-called "cancellations" of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:36 PM
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It's beyond the scope of this subreddit to get into the finer points of why I oppose Wokeism, but suffice to say, I'm content with voting straight Republican in perpetuity, reading and supporting alternative media sources, allying with dissidents like Greenwald, Tabbi, Richard Dawkins, etc, pressuring and fortifying the parts of the system that protect people like me, and thereby stalling "progress" for as long as I'm alive. Future generations will have to deal with the 3rd world shithole that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 05:28 PM
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Maybe. I’m a pessimist when it comes to that issue, but either way, a demographic collapse is unlikely to sink the West during my lifetime. And since no one believes or cares about Western countries turning into 3rd world shitholes, kicking the can down the road is the best any of us can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:23 PM
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Almost every time I see a straight couple, the female is significantly more attractive FWIW, most of the couples I know from my Facebook friends list are looks-matched, and more often than not, the couples I see in public are looks-matched. I did see a couple last week where the woman was a gorgeous, thin blonde and the man was tall but was fat and baby-faced, so that stood out as a blatantly unbalanced couple, but I wouldn't say that the female halves in general are significantly more attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:10 PM
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Society won't collapse due to male sexlessness, but what will happen is that men and women alike will both become increasingly isolated, atomized, and embittered. As long as the trains still run on time, which they currently are, then society won't collapse. But I'd imagine a society full of lonely, bitter people will have some sort of unforeseen negative consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:00 PM
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Go away. I responded to all your points. Low effort questions get no answers from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:49 AM
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Women are not mind reader. Men should learn how to communicate better That there is a two way street. Women don't use straight-forward language like men do. You fail to think literally, which is kind of the only real purpose of words. It's not the job of men to decipher what women are actually trying to say. Interpreting things literally is dismissed as "autism," when really, it's just common sense. But you guys are terrible communicators, so we have to decipher what the hell you’re talking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:52 PM
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If you guys were more honest just straight said "Women won't have noncommittal sex with men just because they're nice" and "Women will only have noncommittal sex with men they think are hot", then more women would agree If you say so. I'm not sure if the men around here explicitly put things in that manner, but it's so heavily implied that to pretend like we are saying something else is dishonest. What you laid out here is exactly what we believe, and know to be true. The reason we put those fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:11 PM
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Most women either strictly fuck in relationships or they fuck charming hot guys Kind of important, that final point. More or less invalidates what you're trying to say with your other points. Men are either in that "Hot Enough To Fuck NSA" category or we aren't. I would actually agree with you that complaining about it does no good, but the reality of its existence is denied by women such as yourself, hence the kind of debates that roil this board. This would be a lot simpler if you simply admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:32 PM
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I really hope you're someone who believes that art should reflect life as opposed to life should reflect art, because if you believe the later, as people with your ideology tend to do, then this complaint of yours here is bogus. We observe life, notice patterns, and make deductions. It's a fact that women are attracted to men like Christian Grey and Edward Cullen even though they are "fictional" characters. There's what ladies say, and there's what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:24 PM
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Sounds like a demonic form of Neo-Puritanism, America’s oldest curse. I see the pattern you’re describing, and I’ve experienced the cold frigidness of girls first hand. I was at a wedding over the weekend, and none of the girls checked me out or gave me the once over except for a group of two girls who I later found out were not even 18 (hence, it could be chalked up to naivete). When a man is invisible like that, it destroys his confidence, and the cycle continue. Sexual Puritanism is cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:30 PM
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Or deevolution, as the case often is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:01 PM
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Maybe this is how the system intended it. To wreck the sexual development of physically unattractive men entirely so they don't bother women. Or it is all just a coincidence It could just be a coincidence, but it sure as hell seems like it's intentional. Makes me wonder if there was some pandemic in the past of average or unattractive men hitting on and bothering hot girls. I never saw that when I was in highschool or college, which was 2005-2012. Men leave women out of their league alone. It wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:16 PM
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Oh yes. I'm in the exact same boat as you: Woke women to be avoided like the plague. However, I disagree on your second point. My own identity is honestly mostly wrapped up in politics, so on the rare occasion I find a girl like that in real life, it's a nice bonus, because it gives us both something to talk about for hours. Unless of course she's woke, in which case, good by.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:26 AM
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Marilyn Monroe, Margot Robie, Taylor Swift, Scarlett Johansson, Hayden Panettiere, Charlize Theron, Anna Kendrick, Ariel Winter, Kristen Bell, and, although they are technically political commentators, Tomi Lahren and Lauren Southern.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:22 AM
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However, we don’t want to discourage otherwise potentially successful men from getting married Correction: "We" don't want to discourage otherwise potentially successful men from hooking up and getting laid. No one of us have a moral obligation to get married or an LTR. Men need to be happy and content with their lives, in whatever form that takes. Marriage is not a one-size-fits-all solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:23 PM
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It's a blind lust thing, and your observations are an accurate reflection of reality. Looksmaxxing is the best option for the vast majority of guys if they want to make themselves more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 07:48 PM
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Good questions. For most of my adult life, I've been living Option C, but that was because my self-confidence was in the shitter. Since I've implemented Option B, I've noticed that Option A has become attainable. In other words, I've finally had girls check me out who I'm genuinely physically attracted to, and I only ever date the girls that are physically attracted to me. To answer your questions: Do you agree or disagree is dating/romance really that complicated as people say? I disagree that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 09:09 PM
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Because they aren't satisfied unless everyone else is mimicking their own miserable lifestyle. They want to impose their failed lifestyle on others so that way society feels safer for them. They don't actually have the best interests of these women at heart, nor are they interested in letting them express their individuality like they claim. It's conformity or else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:59 PM
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I want a woman that has an opinion on things like where she wants to go out to eat, what her favorite travel destinations are, which flavor of ice cream she likes best - basically, I want her to have opinions on the irrelevant shit. It would indeed get boring and uninteresting if I literally literally made all the decisions. Where I don't want her to challenge my views is on politics and morality. The things that matter. We need to be 100% in total agreement on that stuff, or close to it. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:55 PM
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Men judging women based on their looks and rejecting the ugly ones no matter how sweet their personality: Too bad, dating is not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:51 PM
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The thing with FDS though is they wish to weaponize those conservative values to leverage the field in their favor, then they have the gal to shame men for trying to leverage the field in our own favor. It's another version of "they cry out as they strike you." They don't actually value "conservative values" as such. They value whatever gets their own gender ahead at the expense of the other. We as men try to be fair and do what's best for everyone. It's only later that we decide "fuck it" and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:47 PM
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Agreed on how its better for women - or men, if the case may be - to do the chore themself that way its done to his or her standards. As a man, I wouldn’t expect a woman to do the lawn and then chew her out for missing a patch. I’d do the job myself that way its done right. A lot of men and women who chew their significant other out for not doing a chore properly are probably just too selfish to take time out of their day to do it themselves, and also are selfish enough that they get a kick out …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:13 PM
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I’d be okay with doing household chores like cooking and cleaning. I do that shit anyway in my own apartment. What I’d not tolerate is any complaining or bitching about it after I put the work in. Its one thing to ask nicely to clean the spot I missed, its another thing to look at me like I’m an idiot and scold me for missing a spot. How the chores are divided doesn’t matter. What matters is the attitude him and her treat each other over it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:51 AM
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Her occupation doesn’t matter as long as she can keep up with me in an intellectual conversation. If its clear that what I’m discussing goes over her head, I get bored real quick and want to leave and do something else. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:48 AM
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Some do, some don’t. I didn’t, until I did. Now I want to make it formal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:45 AM
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Its a problem, but we shouldn’t treat it as such. The happiness of men doesn’t matter. Sobeit. I say let this run away train take its course. Nothing should be done to “encourage” or “force” women and men to do anything. What men should do is behave the exact same way towards women that women behave towards them. We as men should feel free to judge women based on their looks, seduce them into having sex, and then dump them when we are bored with them. We should only look out for ourselves and ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:31 AM
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Yes, I’m biased against the Left after a decade of deplatforming and cancelling. It’s called a counterstrike. I have no issue arguing with Leftists in good faith, but now that they are out to shut down their opponents, its only fair to turn the tables on them. If I was in control of Twitter, I wouldn’t ban Woke content, but I’d allow - and indeed, encourage - Right Wing accounts to mob their mentions until they either cancel their own accounts or switch them to private. I would allow the “Right …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:39 PM
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Wokes have spent the last decade deplatforming people they don’t like and getting people fired from their jobs for Wrong-Think. When Right Wingers form online mobs to troll them, they are giving them a taste of their own medicine. “Online extremists” wouldn’t exist if the Woke Left hadn’t turned to deplatforming and cancelling. Hence, you people should be bullied off the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 08:36 PM
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What goes around comes around. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:04 AM
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Burden of proof is always on the accuser (Wokes), not the defense (regular people). Wokes like you want to fling shit around and get away with it. Forget about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:02 AM
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Holy shit, what hubris. If a Woke on the internet claims that Whites are guilty of unearned privilege, or that men are guilty of misogyny, its not my job to prove them wrong, its their job to prove the alleged truth of their claims, and its also their job to discuss it in a civil manner, without resorting to baseless “isms” and slander, which Wokes routinely do. You don’t get to go around the internet slandering people, assassinating the character of an entire race and gender, and expect to be d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 09:58 PM
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And if she’s dealing with that kind of shit, then she shouldn’t be in the dating game in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:07 PM
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Because they are poisoning public discourse, corroding the cohesiveness of society, and engaging in the public equivalent of shitting in the Commons. They shouldn’t be allowed to do that without being subject to retaliation in the form of online troll mobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:18 PM
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In a word, yes. Let's put a spin on that old stupid quote: If you weren't attracted to me when I didn't have money ("at my worst"), then you don't deserve me now that I do have money ("at my best"). I want a woman to be attracted to me because she thinks I'm good-looking and likes my personality. If I had a lot of money and women who I know for a fact wouldn't notice me before start noticing me, they'll get a dismissive gesture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 10:01 PM
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There's a lot of truth to what you're saying. I've noticed the cultural divide myself. Of all the single girls on my Facebook friends list who I could plausibly date, most of them are liberal, and I'm a man of the Right, especially on cultural issues. As a White man, it dismays me how utterly dominant cultural liberalism is among White women, and it makes me personally incompatible with many of them who I might otherwise date if they had the same values and goals as me. I have no resentment what…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 09:55 PM
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In my personal experience, the times where people should take a black-and-white view, they take a complex view, and the times they should take a complex view, they take a black-and-white view. Most people are bad at figuring out which one is proper for the given situation. I chalk that up to shit-tier judgement skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 09:54 PM
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We're getting to the heart of the matter now: If men had an ounce of competence there would be no nagging if they just did the shit right the first time when asked Not gonna happen. I'd rather lie to a woman's face to get in her pants, then dump her later. It's immoral to do that. It's also much better than suffering through a living hell of a woman who doesn't know the difference between what matters and what doesn't. Has nothing to do with competence and has everything to do with "not being a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:46 PM
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Personality matters at the margins. It doesn't turn an ugly or average guy into a Chad. It doesn't make him go from undesirable to desirable. The worst it can do is make a Chad unattractive when the woman deems he's too much of an asshole to bother with. Contrary to what the movies teach us, and what the RedPillers believe, most Chads aren't assholes. They know how to get out of their own way and let the women flock to them. You do make an interesting point though about people like me not valuin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:21 PM
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You guys are much more egalitarian then us, and you follow it to the letter. We Americans tend to value hierarchy more, which is why we are more accepting of social ills like income inequality and don't have the same collective ethos that all European nations do. We like it when it's clear who is the follower and who is the leader in a relationship. Personally, I'd much rather be the submissive, servant type one in a relationship with a woman, but really, a lot of TRP men want a submissive woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:06 PM
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If he's in a Dead Bedroom situation, then yes, absolutely. Men used to do that all the time back in the Middle Ages. They'd have a wife and they'd have a mistress. Ideally, a wife will meet her husbands sexual needs, but if she doesn't want to for whatever reason, then as far as I'm concerned, he has no moral obligation to be loyal to her. He may not be entitled to his wife's body, but he's absolutely entitled to getting his sexual needs met from a woman who will have him. Commitment and loyalty…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:57 PM
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Yeah, and they end up scarred and messed in the head (Religious people excepted). If you have your V-card past a certain age and you are a man, it's because you're undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:52 PM
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Treating a man with kindness, respect, and decency is not nagging him all the time over irrelevant little things, not tearing down every time he makes a minor screw up. I knew a couple that went to counseling because the wife hated how her husband didn't do little things like leave the toilet seat down or put the dishes exactly where they needed to go. There's all sorts of shit that you girls think are such big deals that you nag your men for. And then you wonder why men ghost you. And it’s that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:51 PM
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If everyone is worthy, then no one is worthy. I don't care if another person is "valuable" to someone else. Worth is objective when it comes to personal behavior. There are people who display good behavior, bad behavior, and in between. You may think you have worth, but you really don't unless you treat others well - in this case, the man in your life. You're not a Queen, just another peasant like 95% of humanity, and if you don't like the way other men are treating you, it's your job to adjust …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:46 PM
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If you have a man you’re attracted to that isn’t Chad, then best of luck to you, I guess? I feel like you’re arguing just to argue. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:13 PM
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You’ll hear no such complaints from me. I’m no Trad. I don’t care if a girl has a double digit body count. What I want is for you ladies to be honest and to be as accompanying of our wants and needs as we are of yours. As it stands, the world revolves around women and exists to serve women. You’re told growing up that you’re Queens and Snowflakes, while us men are told that we must serve you. The way I see it, Egalitarianism goes both ways, and whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:11 PM
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Right, but you also want Chad, and seeing as they keep on bailing, that means you’re doomed to a life of constant ghosting. Best to get used to it and stop bitching about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:06 PM
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If he had to earn your interest like that, then he was desperate to begin with. Even great looking men can be desperate if they don’t have self-worth. You’ll probably tell me that he has self-worth, which I can’t disprove, but my point here is that a man actually isn’t willing to run through castle walls for you if he has other options, which most Chads figure out. Hence the complaints from all you ladies over why they “wont commit.” Good luck though. I’m sure he’ll be your good little puppy dog…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:03 PM
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Assuming you have any worth to begin with, which many of you ladies do not. Worth is something that’s built over time through character and good deeds, not because you exist. No one has worth just because they exist, not the highest nobles nor the lowest slaves. Assuming that you have worth just because you exist is the height of narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:58 PM
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A “Real Man” in this context means a man you are physically attracted to and whose personality you like. So, basically a Chad. Hence why I put it in scare quotes. I never said Redpillers are “real men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:54 PM
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Clearly you weren’t paying attention to the news reports of all those college students - Chads and Stacys all of them - that were gathering at the beaches even during April-May 2020 when the lockdowns were most intense. Men who party and drink still find a way to party and drink regardless of what the state says. I remember one boy in Florida going viral because he said he couldn’t get the disease. If men who drink and party are perusing Reddit on their phones on the way to said parties, they pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:52 PM
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I indeed say that such a situation was possible. Although honestly, I think when a successful, career independent woman goes for a man who is her social inferior, its probably because she’s become like the blue blood Roman Women of old who lusted after their fit, handsome male slaves and desired to be ravaged by them. I suppose its possible for such a woman to enjoy the man’s company, but as the OP said, what does such a man bring to the table? In any case, the real issue is this: Most successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:46 PM
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Those people are fools. Romance is fleeting and will wither. It should never be the foundation for a relationship. Its necessary, yes, but its by no means sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:36 PM
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If I was in that situation, I would turn into Viserys Targaryan when he looks at his sister after selling her to Khal Drogo and says, and I paraphrase, “I would let a thousand warlords fuck you. Them and their horses too.” Men have no obligation to defend or protect women who show no honor or decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:58 PM
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If i slept w a guy in that situation I wouldn't expect to ever hear from him again. But if he sent me a nice text in the morning, planned another date, and dated me for a few more weeks, yeah, I'd expect him not to ghost me I would have empathy for this scenario if it wasn't for the fact that when a man does nice things for a women, gets friendzoned, and complains that he was led on, you gals show him zero empathy. You say things like, "he can't just expect to buy his way into a woman's pants!" …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:33 AM
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And plenty of men are also happy to walk away when they don't get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 04:07 AM
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I'll break it down for you: You're attracted to Chad You want to lock down Chad You try to make Chad wait for sex because you don't want to risk him pumping and dumping you Bad strategy, from your POV. Putting out early is more or less an ironclad requirement for locking down a man you find attractive. You can deny it all you want, but you'll keep on getting dumped repeatedly. You say "that's what I want," but no it isn't. What you really want is for him to commit to you. To get Chad to commit, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:58 AM
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Not men who can already attract women, which describes the men who drink and party. They are drinking and partying in the first place because they are attractive enough to fit in those environments in the first place. PPD doesn't have those men because they don't need any pills, Red, Purple, or Black.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:51 AM
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If she doesn't consent to "just sex" with you, she doesn't want to just fuck you. Why do you want to have sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you? Uh, if she had sex with me and I didn't physically pin her down and force her to do it, then I'm pretty sure she consented, which means she wanted to have sex with me. I don't think it's unfair to assume that a woman who willingly spread her legs for me wanted to have sex with me. You can plead with, "but she only did that because she t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:49 AM
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Being unattractive is a handicap; being socially awkward is a death sentence. I happen to be on the autism spectrum and I can say, it destroys your chances with the opposite sex Do you think that's because women have a sixth sense for when a man isn't right in the brain? That he has something deeply wrong with him on the inside? That the way he communicates with people just isn't what its supposed to be? Because honestly, that would explain a lot of experiences I've had in life. I'm on the spect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:33 AM
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You don't want to lock down a man you're attracted to? Odd. I thought the whole purpose of "making a man wait" was so that he'd work hard to get you and "prove" himself a "worthy" man. Let me ask you something: If you are fishing, and you keep on getting minnows when you want a trout, is that the trouts fault for not taking your bait, or your fault for using a strategy that doesn't work? You've got all these attractive men bailing when you make them wait, and you actually think the next time wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:17 AM
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Then men can buy me dinner and I can ghost them since apparently if you aren't in a relationship you don't owe anyone basic decency. I don't think it's indecent to go through the motions of getting a girl in bed, then leaving when she "wants more." She should have known it was just the motions. She's been through it a thousand times. If we are expected to figure out what you want, then you're expected to figure out what we want. Without words or communication. Fairs fair. In the case of your exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:11 AM
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I just know men hate buying dinner for anyone so buying dinner for a woman who doesn't like you would be extra insulting. Depends on the woman. If we're smart about it, we'll find out whether she's attracted to us or not before buying her dinner. Men actually do like buying women dinner if there is mutual attraction. Yup. That's how I met one of them. No hard feelings since it was clear from the beginning it was a one time thing. Perfect communication. Press X to doubt. Even on Tinder, couples t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:54 AM
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Nah, it's just another hoop to jump through, and some women think if they put up enough hoops that a man will eventually give in and do what they want. Put up too many hoops and Chad will bail.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:41 AM
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Can't remember where I saw this, but there was a study showing that relationships that were "unequal" by some standard - usually class - were more likely to last long term and produce children then relationships between two equals. The idea of "power couples" is a myth. Hell, even the OP here admitted that he's a bus driver and she is some Janet Reno ubermensch. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but figured I'd mention that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:36 AM
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Uh, I'm pretty sure PurplePill Debate doesn't attract men who party, drink, and choose women based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:28 AM
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If we as men actually listed what we want in a woman, I'm confident the majority of them would run away screaming "entitled" "sexist" etc. I'll throw one on the table: I absolutely despise personal arguments with my loved ones, and I do everything I can to deescalate them when they happen. A lot of women on subreddits like FDS will say that they do shit like that to "test" a man and find out if he can "take it" or not. In their deluded minds, the man who can "take it" is a Real Man, and the 99% …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:24 AM
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The idealism in John Mellencamp's music wasn't as cringe as Bryan Adams in Summer of 69, tbh. Anyway though, your analysis is correct, except for one important thing: Replace the adjective "romantic" with "sexual" behind milestones. I personally don't give a shit about romance. But I care a lot about sexual validation as a man, and meeting the milestones when I'm supposed to meet them. When a man doesn't meet the milestones at the appropriate age, he ends up severely stunted and becoming a socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:16 AM
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Your implication here is that by taking a woman out to dinner, he's implicitly stating he wants to be in a relationship. Let me ask you something: Has a Chad ever gone up to you like William Hurt's character in Body Heat and said, "hey lady, wanna fuck?" There's always a song and dance involved. Maybe its dinner, maybe its a walk through the park, maybe its sitting on the couch and eating pizza. None of that is indicative that a man wants a relationship, it's just that we know there's not a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:09 AM
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Romantic companionship is different than platonic companionship Eh, not really. You talk about things, you hang out together, you might work on projects together. It's really no different from a platonic friendship except that the feelings are different. You shouldn't place romance on a pedestal. It's not the foundation of a solid relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:56 AM
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It feels good to be successful, it feels good to exercise your brain and acquire knowledge and have pride in yourself. That's nice, as long as you recognize that it comes with a cost, and the cost is not having a "Real Man" in your life - except for purposes of casual sex - because you don't need him, and he doesn't need you. At best, you enjoy each others company for a few months before he gets bored and moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:49 AM
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Is it so terrible to just...want to be in love? It is. Because love is not possible between co-equals. Someone has to be the dominant one in the relationship for the other to look up to, respect, admire, and love. Historically, for material/environmental reasons, that was the man. But thanks to modern tech and living standards, it can be the woman instead. Apparently, many women resent being the dominant partner and want a Real Man to lead them. Well, that's impossible if she's an independent ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:44 AM
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why do you believe you have to be a perfect 1:1 match to be involved with someone Because of resource scarcity. There are way less Chad's then there are number of women who desire Chad's. All women desire Chads, and all men desire Stacy's. Nothing wrong with that, natural attraction at work. We all want the best. But guess what: We live in a society, and for society to stay harmonious and happy, we all have to make sacrifices. Most of us won't marry and have children with the people we find the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:50 AM
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That's just it though. They don't want a relationship with you, especially if they never explicitly said so. You can feel "led on" all you want, but a man like that isn't leading you on anymore than a woman who friendzones a guy is leading him on. It's all in your head. The woman who friendzones a guy never wanted sex with him, and the man who has sex with you then leaves when you demand "something serious" never wanted a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:40 AM
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Because human attraction isn't complex at all, and you're objectively wrong for suggesting otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:58 PM
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Women: Anglo-Saxon Nordic Slavs Meds And because I know what’s handsome and what’s ugly: Men: Meds Anglo Saxon Nords Slavs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:11 PM
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after a certain threshold - looks don’t factor in as much as personality Sure, and that “threshold” or floor is basically a celebrity. A Chad. Anything less than that and she’s with you for some other reason, and in any case isn’t physically attracted to you. I don’t even deny that its possible for a woman to fall in love with and marry an average looking man. (Happens all the time). I deny that it matters. A relationship is dead in the long term without physical attraction. The threshold for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:55 AM
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The theories are supposed to explain real world experiences and make them comprehensible and understandable. Theories divorced from real world experiences and observations aren’t “theories” at all. They are pseudoscience. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:50 AM
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Bullshit. Imagine this: The year is 10,000 BC. You tell me to start a fire. I start a fire. You give me a look like I’m not done. I respond with a confused expression. You get upset and start scolding me. I ask what’s wrong. You roll your eyes and walk to the river, returning with a bucket of water. I ask why you didn’t just ask me to get water. You say, “because getting water and starting a fire go hand in hand. Everyone knows that!” There’s no amount of socialization or human interaction that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:47 AM
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I allow for zero nuance and subtext, because if language isn’t literal, then we’re all a bunch of sorcerers and witches playing mind games with each other, which makes a mockery of the whole purpose of communication. It horrifies and outrages me that we live in a Game of Thrones world where everyone is out for themselves and isn’t honest and straight with their words and intentions. Makes me think the Religious Right might have been onto something with forcing their morality on others, because a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:14 AM
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And I'm sure if I believe I'm an attack helicopter, it'll be true. /2016sarcasm Seriously though, you should be able to see how absurd your position is. If biological sex is real and people can't be the gender they identify as, then likewise, you can't just be an unattractive man and expect to get attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:41 PM
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The only personality trait that sparks a genuine sense of attraction in me and makes me feel interested in a girl that I probably otherwise wouldn’t be interested in is if she is genuinely kind and polite with a constant smile on her face. No matter a woman’s level of attractiveness, its a turn off when they don’t smile in public and act like the whole world is out to get them. I don’t care if they have a genuine fear of predators. Not every man is a predator, and walking through public with a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:02 PM
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Reality doesn’t bend to your mind. Your mind should bend to reality, which is absolute and unchanging. We aren’t what we think we are. We are what we are. It amazes me that people like you don’t get that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:42 PM
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Noticing patterns goes both ways. It is true that 90% of all violent crime is committed by men. 13/50 is also a thing. I doubt you're prepared to handle the implications of that. So don't sit here and condemn men as inherently creepy or perverted unless you're prepared to handle the other side of that coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:23 PM
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No need to change your view. You're 100% correct. It's the attitude those women exude, and it's also the fact that high N-count women are overwhelmingly the attractive ones. We men value looks as much as you ladies do. Inhibited, low N-count women tend to be plain looking, and attractive women with low N-counts either have massive trust issues with men, or they have a psychological problem, which either way makes them undesirable. Like you said though, a high N-count woman isn't marriageable bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:13 PM
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My attraction for men isn't based on them pursuing me. I like someone long before we start flirting or going on dates. Thank you for admitting this, as it's something I strongly prefer to hear from a woman. I can't stand it when girls treat a guy like he's a commodity for her to consider buying. Come clean with me and just admit whether you are attracted to me or not. Don't drag me along, don't make me wait, and don't make your attraction to me dependent on my mercurial behavior. I'm either attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 11:59 PM
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For girls, it's not pathetic at all because they are never virgins for lack of a man being attracted to them. I suppose it's possible for her to stay a virgin because she is repulsed by every man who shows interest, but at some point, women like that tend to give in just to "get it out of the way." Then they go on to do something else with their lives. For guys, I'd say its pathetic by the time you turn 20, especially if you are in college. Really, if you're a virgin after your college freshman …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:52 AM
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In my opinion, the average "party girl", has good social skills, many friends and decent looks. Most of these women eventually do get married, even if they have to lower their standards a lot. I really hope your intuition about that is correct, because if it is, then it means they probably aren't marrying men whose looks would have met their previous standards. Of course, there's more than one way a woman can "lower her standards." Maybe she married a guy who is less financially successful than …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:42 AM
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You’re trying to justify why a woman who is genuinely attracted to a man would withhold sex from him, and I’m saying that the only rational or moral reason for why a woman who is attracted to a man would withhold sex from him is if she is afraid of getting burned. Of a pump and dump. The pattern she sees in men is that every time she opens her legs early in the relationship, they dump her. Because men are “pigs” who “only want sex.” If what you’re saying is true about women needing time to decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 02:03 PM
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Your entire comment is obfuscation and red herrings. Not to mention, it misunderstands what I’m saying. I’ll do my best to break it down. Imagine the following scenario: -You meet a man -You are attracted to that man -You decide that you want a relationship with that man 9 times out of 10 these days, a woman will sleep with that man either on the first date or early in the relationship. She won’t make him wait a long period of time to have sex, either because she strongly wants to have sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:40 PM
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On the surface, sounds plausible. In reality, this right here... but that they make guys they might want a relationship with wait ...is usually not the case. Women wouldn't be complaining about how they can't get "commitment" from a man if this was the case. It's not a thing that women only have sex on the first day with men they are strictly casual with, whereas when they are looking for a relationship, they make a man wait. That's not how it works. More often than not, a woman who has sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:25 AM
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We're upset by it because it proves 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that you aren't physically attracted to us. If you were physically attracted to us, then you would have opened your legs for us just like you did those previous men. But you aren't, so you don't. We are NOT entitled to your bodies, nor are we entitled to sex with you on the first day even though you did it with previous men. You were attracted to those men, and you aren't attracted to us. We can't force that or control that. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:33 PM
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Alright, I’ll zero in on one particular example: There’s a scene from a stupid movie that I liked growing up: Honey We Shrunk Ourselves. In that scene, Jenny Szalinski, the bratty, bitchy older sister of one of the main characters, dances in the kitchen with Ricky King, a jock with a pretty boy face. The movie clearly established in previous scenes that she was massively attracted to him. During their dance, they smile at each the whole time, her more so than him. He says he thinks she’s “awesom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:37 PM
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My current attraction is to women who are objectively more attractive than me, but who many men would not consider attractive: Chubby girls with pretty faces. Most men would agree that they have nice faces, but because they are generally overweight, they wouldn’t find them attractive. I’ve never chased thin girls, as I don’t find them any more or less attractive than thick girls, and because I perceived - correctly or incorrectly - that all the hot guys were interested in thin girls. So I figure…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:13 PM
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The fact that we have to exert a herculean effort to be loved, when we were taught all our lives that true love is unconditional, is a huge Black Pill. I feel your pain, and I avoid that subreddit altogether because of comments like that. If love is all about “chemistry” and “who you click with,” then genuine friendship with women is meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 02:59 PM
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Makes sense. Although I will say that some of the average looking guys I know will talk about girls I find attractive as if they are average. In my opinion, their standards are simply too high. There’s something to be said for the theory that men are hypergamous too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:51 PM
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For sure, and I'm not saying I'm all that. I'm saying that most of the girls I saw on Bumble, I considered to be pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 11:17 PM
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Haven't been on Tinder, but I spent a month on Bumble, and I thought most of the girls on there were at least a 7. Many men would disagree though, so maybe I'm just easy to please, or my standards of what's hot or not are skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:06 PM
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The answer is Yes, I would. But, I have a follow up question, one born of ignorance: Is it really true that most girls get hit on by multiple guys? Including the average-looking ones? I always thought it was the Stacys who had a harem of dudes lined up, not the Beckys. As such, I’ve never chased a Stacy before but have chased my share of Beckys. From my vantage point, it doesn’t seem like guys are all over them, but then I’m not walking in their shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 09:15 PM
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I like the things that require minimal to no effort to enjoy, but yeah, I feel you on relationships and causal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:14 PM
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I’m looking for a confidence boost and have no intention of taking action, unless she makes the first move and approaches me. Otherwise, its strictly about my self-esteem and personal validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:37 PM
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I’ve got to admit, this is new knowledge for me. So you’re saying that you avoid looking at attractive men because too many times in the past they’ve tried to hit on you when you weren’t interested in being hit on by literally anyone? I always thought it was ugly men or men you aren’t attracted to that you didn’t want the attention of - which, again, is entirely understandable. But you’re saying you don’t even want the attention of men you find attractive when you’re out in public? I suppose if …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:04 PM
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Not every hot guy who looks you up and down or walks up to you and tries to flirt wants to finger your asshole. Your attitude is the equivalent of the MRA attitude that “all women will divorce rape you and take your resources.” I suspect you’ve been hurt in the past and are taking defensive measures to prevent that from happening, but just know that if you treat every man you’re attracted to as if he’s a perv, you’ll continue to feel alienated and disillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:53 PM
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I’ve indeed heard that opinion, and its entirely unreasonable. Does every attractive man you look at try to hit on you or take away your time? Because if not, then you shouldn’t be concerned about checking out a guy who you find attractive. Looking at a guy is not the same as asking him to “come hither,” not unless you do it multiple times in a single setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:30 PM
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But you find him attractive. I get why you don’t want some ugly guy perving on you, but why would you want to avoid an attractive man hitting on you or looking at you unless he gave vibes of being a predator?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:20 PM
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I would find it less upsetting if it was the norm for women to check men out in public, or if I myself was getting checked out on a semi-regular basis by women I find attractive as opposed to never being checked out by those women at all. You can say its unhealthy, but that’s my cross to bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:17 PM
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Fine. But then they should at least give me my drink when I walk in and not ignore me and continue to clean the counters just because they don’t want me getting the wrong impression. I don’t care in that situation what their personal concerns are. I’m a paying customer. Serve me. The Stacys don’t get that nearly as well as the Beckys do. Also, I’m an American, and a Midwesterner at that, so gratuitous politeness and kindness is in our culture. When I don’t see it, its upsetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:14 PM
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What I think is that, contrary to what they claim on Reddit, women actually do check out men they find attractive, or give him a passing look. I’ve seen it at malls and on Youtube videos with other men. So, when they don’t check me out, I assume its because they don’t find me attractive. If you are single and not preoccupied with personal problems, why would you not look at a man you find attractive as you walk by him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:11 PM
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Admittedly, there’s an inherent risk. I assume that when a woman doesn’t look at me as she passes me by, that its because she doesn’t find me attractive. But it could just be because she already has a man, or because she didn’t notice me since she was busy or tired. And I technically wouldn’t know either way. That’s the risk. However, based on answers I’ve seen from women on Reddit about what they do when a man they find attractive walks by, a lot of them say that they ignore him or try to prete…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:05 PM
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Edited the original comment for clarity. If she didn’t find me attractive anyway, fair enough. But if she found me attractive and still looked the other way or ignored me, that hurts. Bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 03:23 PM
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I’d say it was a combo of three influences: Parents My Dad gave me “The Talk” at 12 years old, which I know not all parents give their kids. His main thing was telling me to save it for marriage, which greatly influenced how I felt about “Body Counts” and promiscuity. Sexual Puritanism is a helluva drug. That said, my parents were happily married, and my Dad claims he was a virgin when he married Mom, so that gave me a real life example to look up to, not just words to follow Movies, especially …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:32 PM
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I want women who I find attractive and who genuinely find me attractive to smile at me and not ignore me or look the other way when they pass me by. Ideally, they’d wink at me. I want this because it would confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that she liked me and would consider dating me or sleeping with me if we knew each other. I die inside every time a woman I consider to be in my league looks the other way or doesn’t react at all - again, assuming she finds me attractive. (To be clear, I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:59 PM
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I would choose a somewhat overweight woman, and YES, women carry extra weight better than men. The extra weight goes to her thighs, which can give her a more shapely, voluptuous, classical figure. The extra weight on men goes right to our guts and makes us look pregnant. Its gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:52 AM
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My ideal body type on a woman would look something like this. I like women on the thicker/chubbier side. I also like it when her skin tone matches her ethnicity: I prefer fair skin, and ideally porcelain skin, on Germanic girls, and I prefer tanned skin on Mediterranean girls. However, regardless of body type, face is most important. I like the (golden) blonde haired, blue eyed look the best, but because I’m light haired and light eyed myself, I enjoy the contrast of a girl who has brown hair an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:41 AM
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The biggest disagreement I have with men on subs like PPD and TRP is how they equate female nature with “badness.” Take it from an unattractive guy: The 80-20 rule sucks when you want to be noticed. However, this doesn’t make women bad people. The only time female nature can make women bad people or serve as an indictment on their character is if they deny clear facts about their nature or otherwise try to excuse them, which I’ve seen women do from time to time on here. I also disagree with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 09:44 PM
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You’re welcome! It’s interesting to see some of the reactions its caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:13 AM
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The biggest advantage of being an ugly man - or an unattractive man, in any case - is that people generally don’t bother you, and they leave you alone. In a class setting in highschool and college, this is excellent, as it allows you to glide through without people giving you shit. That was my experience. Given that I’m introverted and avoidant, that experience was a good thing. Until I desired the attention of women of course. Then it became like a curse. But even so, being invisible has its ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 09:01 PM
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Hard disagree. I was close with my parents growing up, and they had a long, successful marriage that I wanted to emulate. I felt no shame asking them for advice. Turns out, most of that advice was only applicable to the narrow circumstances that they met each other in - conservative Evangelical church - but I never once considered going to my friends for advice when they were as clueless as I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 08:56 PM
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Without getting into point by point details, I consider myself Purple-Pilled because I have a combination of Blue Pilled and Red Pilled beliefs about gender and sex. Its kind of ironic to say that, since under Matrix lore, a Blue Pilled individual doesn’t know he is Blue Pilled, or forgets that he took the Blue Pill after the fact. In my case, I consciously know that some of my beliefs and feelings about women are considered Blue Pilled, hence the justification for my identification. To me, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 08:49 PM
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Here’s my question for the OP: In your understanding of attachment theory, do “Securely Attached” individuals never or rarely engage in the manipulative behavior that RedPillers engage in? What I don’t like about Attachment theory is that it holds up “Secure” individuals as the ideal model, while pathologizing the other types. Sorry, but what exactly is wrong with being avoidant or anxious as long as you aren’t hurting others? Do avoidant people have some sort of obligation to open themselves up…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 08:45 PM
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I think they would have been better off if they beat the shit out of their bullies - or attempted to - when they had the chance, but as I said in another comment in this thread, yes, I think men who suffer like that are justified in their bitterness later on in life. They shouldn’t have ever experienced those awful things in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 11:10 AM
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Basically any man that’s capable of feeling love is eternally fucked Totally agree with you there. I’d like to believe that women want a man who loves them, but it sure as hell seems like a lot of them don’t really want that. Which is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 11:36 PM
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That’s just it though: They didn’t know until after the fact that the men they chose were a-holes. I do think women bare some responsibility for catching onto the pattern and being able to identify a-holes, but ultimately, the responsibility lies on us as individuals to not be a-holes to others. Most women don’t knowingly choose to be with a-holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 10:34 PM
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I disagree. There are some experiences people should never be subjected to, and if they are, they shouldn’t be blamed for reacting to it with bitterness when nothing is done about it. If you fell off a bike and scratched your knee one time, yeah, move on and forget. But if you were mistreated in your youth, that’s not something people should just forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 10:04 PM
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He’s justified in being bitter and dropping out. He shouldn’t take it out on another (innocent) person like Elliot Rodger did, but the bitterness and anger? Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:47 PM
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They are “accountable” in the sense that they shouldn’t treat the next man like shit just because a previous man treated them like shit. They have an obligation to be a good person in their next relationship. We all do. But the bitterness and disillusion that they feel inside? Totally justified, and they can hold onto it for as long as they damn well please. They are not responsible for that. Their abusers are. And until the abusers are properly punished and prevented from engaging in that behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:46 PM
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You’re not following my logic here. The goal isn’t to get her emotional abuser to stay with her. The goal is to prevent the emotional abuser from ever getting into a relationship with her in the first place. Men who intend to pump and dump her would never get with her, and the only men who would get with her are men who don’t intend to dump her. At that point, she can then choose whether the man courting her is attractive to her or not, but no matter what, she knows out of the gate that he’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:30 PM
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It is. Unfortunately though, there’s no solution to that negligence that doesn’t involve violence. Here’s something I could get behind: In the old days, if a man got a woman pregnant, her father and her brothers would force him to raise the child under threat of physical retaliation. If the fathers and brothers of a woman intimidated the man who broke her heart and treated her like trash, I’ll bet we would see way less relationships that lead to “You Broke Me First” situations. It may be true th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 09:10 PM
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The thing of it is, I constantly fantasized as a child of being Prince Charming myself. Meeting that standard doesn’t intimidate me. Being Chad? Even if I looked like Chad - which I don’t - that lifestyle sounds so exhausting anyway. Being a Player is not the same thing as being Prince Charming. Don’t confuse the two. Little girls expected Prince Charming and got Players. That inevitably will break them down to a large degree. Yes, I empathize with them over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:59 PM
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I’m damaged goods myself (emotionally speaking), so it’s pretty much inevitable that any relationship I get into would be with a woman who is also damaged goods. I’m okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:57 PM
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If an attractive woman is turned off by me not jumping in and risking my life for some stranger, I’d throw it right back in her face by telling her she’s a “Strong Woman” and that she is capable of defending herself, without my help. If she’s one of those types that wants a “Big Strong Man” to protect her, then we aren’t compatible.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 07:00 PM
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A couple months ago, when I was still on Twitter, one of the female channels I followed posted the music video for “You Broke Me First.” She said that boys need to pay attention to how you treat girls when they are teenagers, because the lyrics to that song are so many young girls’ journeys. This hit home with me. One of the many ways that people like to “One Up” each other and prove how “sophisticated” they are is to claim that life isn’t a Disney film or a romance novel, and that men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 06:53 PM
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Only the ones that think like you, which is not as many as you think.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 06:31 PM
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Don’t care. I’m alive. The guy who “toughened up” is dead. Who wins the Darwinian survival game in that situation, me or him?
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 05:22 PM
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Grew up in a conservative Evangelical household. C’nts like this are a dime a dozen.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 12:24 AM
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I’m not looking for a relationship anyway, as there is not a single woman on planet earth that would accept me and love me for who I am. Doesn’t matter if I’m attracted to her or not. I’m too introverted and “off” to be loved. Simply put, my personality sucks. So, with relationships off the table, that means I chase the validation of what you call “shallow” women. Really, they aren’t shallow at all. Most of them want relationships, but they are willing to have sex with a man prior to securing hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 03:33 PM
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Still a lot of TradCons around these parts. They don’t like the idea that people might not do things that are socially expected of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:57 PM
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I was in this situation with a woman once, and I did in fact manage to get a hard on while laying in bed next to her in her underwear. So yeah, its possible for me to be aroused by laying next to a woman without me being attracted to her. I don’t want to give out numbers because I’m not entirely sure where I fall myself, but if I wasn’t attracted to her, then she must be less conventionally attractive than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 02:42 AM
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I can only speak for myself here, but in regards to Point 2, I would probably go through a limited “fuck boy” phase just to validate myself and get it out of my system, then go back to reading shit on the internet and figuring out something else to pass the time before I die. Fucking a variety of women would bore me after awhile. I wouldn’t be surprised if more men than you realize would eventually get bored with fucking multiple women. We wouldn’t be able to do it in perpetuity unless we had an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:47 AM
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I want multiple women that I find attractive to be attracted to me, without me actually doing anything about it - casual sex or love. I also want to find “The One” like in every Taylor Swift song and Disney movie. In a way, I want both. The commitment and the sex for one woman alone, the attention and validation of all the other women. I don’t do “side bitches” or multiple LTR’s. Not my cup of tea. That’s the extent of my polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:39 AM
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We don’t value the same things. I’m someone who chases the validation of women constantly. I have never once in my life chased the validation of a man, except for maybe 2 or 3 dudes who I really clicked with who also oozed swagger. I liked being liked by them. Every other man in my life? As disposable as a $5 gift card. Emotional parasites, con artists, and all around low value. In re: The stalker issue, putting the fear of God in them is generally a good way to make them go away. You’re welcome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:27 AM
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Dude, you’re being obtuse. A man who is able to, in the OP’s words, “drown in pussy,” is a man who is hot enough to attract whatever woman he wants. You can’t deny what a massive confidence boost that would be. It’s not about carnal pleasure. Its about validation as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:57 AM
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You’re missing the point lady: It’s not Chads, or men in general, that are the problem. Its YOU. Your comment about “how they talk about groups of people to which they don’t belong” is a dead giveaway of your low value. Only a woman who is either a member of those groups themselves or who otherwise strongly identifies with them would even consider this as a qualifier in a spouse. As a woman with Leftist/Egalitarian beliefs, you’re going to have to make do with the “men” who are beta enough to sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 02:10 AM
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I know one example doesn’t discredit your point, but for whatever its worth, I’m a man, and I’m in the first category. It’s an ego boost for me when an attractive woman - or, more accurately, a woman I’m attracted to - notices me. I don’t think about “getting with her” because I’m not interested in “getting” with anyone. I just want to be noticed and not be invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:48 AM
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Based on this here comment, there’s another unspoken reason why you don’t like Chads: Because good-looking men are more likely to be Right Wing, and your sentiments here are the opposite of a woman that shares their values and outlook on life. You’re doing them a favor by swiping left. 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:41 AM
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Dude, we are like in the exact same position. I’m 31, on the spectrum, highly functional, and I don’t have fuck-all to do except get a better job and play the dating market. I used to be passionate about political causes, but I gave up on that when I determined the cause I dedicated myself to was well and truly lost. Its like, what else is there to do in life other than make more money and get women to notice us? I want to give up, but I can’t, because the alternative is binge watching shows and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 12:47 AM
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“What is it precisely which I find intolerable? That which I cannot deal with alone, which makes me choke and faint? Bad air! Bad air! That something foul comes near me; that I must inhale the putrid odour of the entrails of a rotten soul!”-Nietzsche I suppose its better to “have fun” outside then to be passive and submissive like Nietzsche condemns here, but I think the same principle still applies: If you spend your life “having fun,” and especially if you do it just to attract women, then you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 02:03 PM
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Yup. OP lost me with that wording. Its not my duty to do shit for anyone. So many comments in this thread that assume all “attacks” are black-and-white cases where the man should “obviously” step in to do something. Real life cases are often much more complex than that. You have to assess each case individually to see if anything can be done, and if so, what the viable options are. My No.1 goal when presented with a physical assault situation is to make sure I myself am safe from harm by not get…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/21 04:25 AM
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“Putting on a pedestal” implies “speaks more enthusiastically about,” in which case, the answer is men. Women may put Chads on a pedestal quietly and discretely through their actions - Tinder dates, low key lays, etc - but its not women constantly talking about Chads on the internet, analyzing their physical features, assessing their SMV. Its men. Women don’t care what they’re called. They’re too busy fucking them. So yeah, men pedestalize them more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:02 AM
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I think your hunch about men is correct. I remember reading something about a woman who is able to attract athletes and models when she dolls up, but that when she doesn’t wear any makeup, she doesn’t even get looks from regular guys at the grocery store. So yeah, us men are being a bit misleading here. Speaking for myself though, even though I probably would notice girls less if they didn’t wear makeup, I still would prefer them to go easy on wearing it, and ideally not wear it at all, that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 02:50 AM
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I see the relationship between culture and beauty standards the same way I do between culture and socioeconomic outcomes. Culture/environment/nurture plays a roll, but most of it is nature. Most of it is inherent. I think beauty is more objective than people want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 10:13 PM
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Press X to Doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:03 AM
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Women have no problem staying single if there are no “real men” around. Yes you do. Otherwise you gals wouldn't be bitching about singleness all over the internet. We can here your cry loud and clear. A truly happy single individual would assess the dating market, determine that the options aren't to her liking, shrug her shoulders, and move on. But instead, we get threads like FDS and the old PinkPill where all you do is spew bile and hatred towards men, and all because they aren't behaving the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 01:01 AM
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Do people deserve to completely express their individuality if it ruins society at large? If society represses individual expression and takes away our rights and freedoms, then what's the point of continuing that society? I don't believe individuals exist to serve society. I think society exists to serve individuals. Man is the measure of all things. Also you will care about the lack of future generations when it economically ruins things for us working people? The only area where I see that be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 12:53 AM
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Avengers: Endgame surpassed Avatar in the summer 2019. I remember tracking it. Glory days. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 09:21 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 09:18 AM
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And wanting a man to possess masculine traits that are NOT at odds with feminism I must confess: I'm at a loss to think of traditionally Masculine traits that don't conflict with Feminism. I do agree that the traits you listed don't necessarily conflict with Feminism, but I can also see a well-read Feminist pointing out what she would call "problematic" aspects of what you mentioned. But, if that doesn't bother you at all, then no harm, no foul. In any case, I appreciate the live-and-let-live at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:53 AM
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If you went to a thread filled with non-black guys with short hair and told them you prefer black guys with long hair, then uh...yeah, you'd be implicitly shaming them. Why not just hang out where the black guys with long hair like to congregate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:41 AM
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Neoliberalism won. Fascism, Communism, Traditionalism, Social Conservatism, and old-school Leftists all lost. Only Modernist Liberalism has the organization and the resources to challenge NeoLiberalism, and both Corporations and the U.S. Government have figured out how to integrate them and neuter them, hence the lamentations of Glenn Greenwald. His takedown was righteous, but it was the cry of a man who knows his version of Leftism is no longer in currency. The age of Men is over. The time of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:35 AM
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It all depends on the context and the intent. If you saw a bunch of TradCons running around Twitter like they do saying that Feminism should be rolled back and that men and women should be socialized into traditional gender roles, you'd probably feel my urge to shut that crap down. Shame it, bully it, have no tolerance for it. When a woman such as yourself expresses a desire for a Real Man, it may be harmless by itself, but taken together collectively, when soooooo many women are doing it - whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:25 AM
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but it kills your society from a demographics standpoint. Maybe. But at least we'll all be free and get to express our individuality. That's what matters to me. I don't care if there's a next generation or not. If I did, perhaps I'd be a TradCon. I'm a Modernist with Right Wing tendencies. Besides, if we ever develop artificial birthing wombs, that'll solve the demographic question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:16 AM
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This doesn't make sense. People talk about themselves for all sorts of reasons, especially on the internet. It's just...chatting. I don't see it that way. It's mob behavior. It needs to be shamed, called out, and shut down. Hence, my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:58 AM
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Yes, and backwards cultures like the one I grew up in are backwards in no small part because they have intense gendered expectations for men and women - and they do their best to enforce these expectations not just on their members, but on society as a whole. And the Evangelicals are far from alone in this. It's a holdover from a bygone past where men were expected to act like men, and women expected to act like women. I feel like I'm beating around the bush here, so let me be blunt: The OP is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:47 AM
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It's common in my part of the world. I grew up in an Evangelical Christian home, and I still have associations with those people through my parents. The expectations they have for men (and women) are oppressive and toxic. Maybe you live in a more tolerant area where Masculine and Feminine standards of behavior aren't socially enforced or upheld. If so, consider yourself lucky. The shit I experienced is still way too common in large swaths of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:08 AM
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Let people have their expectations and aspirations. If they fail to get it then that's ultimately their problem. I'm fine with people having their personal expectations for the opposite gender...as long as they keep that shit to themselves. In private. The minute they open their mouths about it on the internet - in the public square - it's tacitly a demand for others to give them what they want. They can feign ignorance and act like that's not their true intentions, but they know what they are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 12:02 AM
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Most women in 1st world countries are not forced to be housewives against their will. Most men are not forced to slave away for their family. Men are legally forced by the courts to make child payments and are not allowed to opt out of it, but in general, I get what you're saying. They make the choice 'freely' but there is a strong societal pressure to conform to gender 'norms'. True, and I wish to dismantle those gender norms once and for all, through critique and deconstruction. For the sake o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:42 PM
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We have different experiences and have been to different parts of the internet. It's a thing. I've seen too many examples on Twitter to count.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:33 PM
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Why can't they? What's wrong about that? Because it's the same "standard" as what Incels want: I want sex, therefore, I demand she gives me sex. I want a real man, therefore I demand he acts like a real man. Women should never be expected to give Incels sex, and men should never be expected to act masculine for women. See how this works? Having standards doesn't take away autonomy from anyone, even if they're completely unrealistic. It does when you insist on telling others about it and demandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:29 PM
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The Human Race is still breeding, and in fact, the global population is expanding. It's just that in Europe, America, and East Asia, the birthrates are below replacement level, which is not the same thing as a "Children of Men" situation. The population in those countries is contracting, but it's not disappearing. Even if we literally were in a "Children of Men" situation where no one is breeding, that doesn't mean those of us alive can't enjoy life while we have it. I honestly don't think we ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:22 PM
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I'm not a social constructivist or a gender theorist. Here's how I see it: Men and women do indeed have proclivities to certain types of behavior, and these proclivities are largely based in biology. HOWEVER, what happened over the centuries is that Masculine and Feminine standards were blown way out of proportion relative to how people actually behave and act in the real world. They became a type of ideal to be strived towards as opposed to a natural expression of people's individuality or a ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:15 PM
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Again, the problem here is you are mixing social functions and public functions. Weak excuse. Social functions directly influence and change public functions, and vice versa. Feminism wasn't just some political movement designed to ensure equality under the law, it was a social movement designed to change things for the better at the ground level. This has ramifications, and one of those ramifications is that "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." In other words, if women demand the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:06 PM
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She actually didn’t have the opposite, a romantic attraction to him, which men here don’t seem to care about anyway. Speaking for myself, I used to care about it, and even put myself to sleep dreaming about it, until 6 or 7 years ago when it became clear to me that most people in general will only ever give a shit about themselves, and that it's impossible for any woman - whether I'm physically attracted to her or not - to "love me for who I am." Who I am has never been good enough for anyone in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:51 PM
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It's not just among other women. They direct it at men too. I was at a conference once hosted by a Multi-level Marketing business - don't worry, I was only there because I told my parents I'd do it just once - and the wife of one of the speakers made a comment shaming men for playing video games and not doing other things she wanted them to do (like, uh, selling the companies BS product). Shit like that is why I'm skeptical of this stuff, because while it may be done in the veil of honest discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:14 PM
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Hormones exist, and they play a role, but not as much as you think. It's like a predisposition to alcoholism: Those who have it are more at risk of becoming alcoholics, but they aren't destined to become alcoholics. You seem to believe that Masculine personality traits and Feminine personality traits are entirely determined by biology and hormones as opposed to a combination of free will and the random quirks of each individual (which, btw, are themselves biological in nature). If that's the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:02 PM
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Gotchya. That was interesting to read. Thanks for sharing. Honestly, I'd still say you have traditionally masculine interests and tastes. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but like, as I'm sure you've noticed, Nerd Culture has gone fully mainstream over the last 20 years. A comic book superhero film is the No.1 worldwide grossing movie of all time. Comic Con is attended by celebrities and corporate executives. It's amazing how things have changed. In my experience, the internet tends to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:56 PM
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If you are a rough, rugged, manly man then women will want to fuck you. If you are a feminine dude then you'll have a lot harder time attracting women. I agree, and I wasn't disputing this reality. I was making a normative argument about how we should treat men and women in our day to day interactions with them, both individually and socially. We shouldn't pressure them into acting masculine or feminine. We should all be given the breathing room to figure out who we are, what we want to be, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:49 PM
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I totally agree. Masculinity and Femininity are social constructs, to a large degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:07 PM
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What I'm saying is that men and women shouldn't be held to different standards of behavior just because they are biologically different. Your example refers to what in criminal law is known as Mens Rea (Latin for "intent of the criminal"). You are specifically referring to "actions" as opposed to "state of being." Actions should indeed be judged differently based on context and intent. "State of being" should not. I don't believe in a society where women are subordinate to men, and I don't belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 07:03 PM
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Everyone has a right to only have sex with certain people they deem they will consent to sex to. If women want a certain type of men for that, that is what it is. Yes, women have the right to only have sex with men who are like Conan The Barbarian. They do NOT have the right to bully and pressure men into becoming like Conan The Barbarian. I see women complaining all the time on the internet - and sometimes, even in real life - over how men today are always "playing video games" or "not living u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:54 PM
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I don’t think its a good or bad thing. It think it just is. What we are witnessing is, IMO, not a socially engineered experiment, but rather a natural expression of where men and women have been moving the last 100 years or so. There’s more importance placed on freedom and individuality than ever before. Traditional masculine and feminine roles are just not embraced by everyone anymore, or enforced by cultural standards. Feminism, I believe, was an expression of the desire of women to have the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:27 AM
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In real life, you’re not the only man who feels that way, but if you are on the internet and on Reddit...yeah, you might be one of the few men who feels that way. Outdoorsy, Man’s Man types who can’t stay off their feet generally don’t engage with the internet. By contrast, nerds like me flock to the internet because its another medium similar to the ones we already enjoy: Virtual, impersonal, on a screen. So, if you’re on here with the rest of us, its a bit unusual not to at least be entertaine…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 11:07 AM
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Yes and yes to both your questions, OP. I’ve Looksmaxxed over the last 6-8 months as a direct result of this feeling, and I concur with other commenters who said that they would trade their intelligence or years of their life to be tall and handsome. Women absolutely treat attractive men like they are God’s gift, while average or ugly guys are invisible. That all said, I do need to share something odd: When I was in high school and college, which are the two periods of life where you would think…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:48 AM
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Based on my experiences with life, I strongly agree with the findings of that study, particularly this line: intelligent people experience less happiness when spending time with friends because they are more skeptical of others and what interest they have in forming and maintaining a friendship. That's literally me. I'm skeptical of everyone's motives when they try and befriend me, because it's rarely for the reasons I would befriend them - that we share a similar interest, or like to talk about…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:24 AM
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I'm jelly. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:03 AM
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That sounds amazing. I would pay top dollar for tickets to see that in a formal theater if Trans-Siberian Orchestra or Two Steps From Hell ever did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:00 AM
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I'm guilty of basically everything you mentioned, and I do indeed fall mildly on the spectrum, so let me explain my motivation for all the quantifying, rationalizing, and deconstructing: The primary purpose of it all is to get ahead of the curve and figure out where things are heading, that way, I can either place myself there, or drop out altogether and spare myself the pain. Figuring this stuff out on the fly, or through lived experience, sounds awful and painful. Not to mention, a huge waste …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:46 PM
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Yup, it did. I make it a priority to look at the IMAX website every day. Sure enough, it replaced WW84 a few weekends ago. What's incredible too is how many people were there, for all three films. The room wasn't technically full because of Covid restrictions, but every available seat was taken. And based on the conversations I overheard, I'd venture to say all of us had seen these films before, many times. The atmosphere was great. Not "Endgame/Infinity War Opening Weekend" great, but like, eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:24 PM
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I'd hate to deal with that time of the month, every month. I'm moody enough as it is. Don't need that to inflame it and make it worse. Also, it sounds painful. If we were living 100 years ago, I'd say the worst part of being a woman is the social expectations: You must be a wife, you must be a mother, oppressive shit like that. I'm glad those days are over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 11:10 PM
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It was so great to see the Lord of the Rings trilogy released in IMAX the last three weekends. I saw one each weekend, capped by ROTK last Friday. Since there aren't any new movies being released anyway, I hope IMAX continues to release old classics each week. For example, I'd love to see the Dark Knight trilogy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 10:53 PM
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Those men you described are living in a world that doesn’t revolve around them or belong to them anymore. They’ve been replaced, and they know it. Women are the go-getters now, and social expectations haven’t changed accordingly. So, they drop out and get by on the bare minimum. They only pursue careers if they really like nice things and can’t live without them, or if they are one of the dwindling number of men who place a high priority on marriage and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 02:55 AM
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The fact that man and women are different doesn't mean we should be treated differently, or that different rules and moral standards should apply to different genders. The only way to justify that is through differences in behavior...and guess what, having sex with lots of people is the exact same behavior, regardless of how hard it is. Everything you mentioned just demonstrates that it's more difficult for men to have a high n-count then women, which is not the same thing as saying it's "bad" f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:09 AM
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Yes, I’d date a woman taller than me, but my limit would be no taller than 5’11 or maybe 6’0 (I’m 5’9). I don’t want a woman to tower over me, but my height or a few inches more is fine. I also feel no need to tower over woman - not that I can do that anyway unless she’s 5’0 or shorter. Based on anecdotal observation, it seems like women who are as tall as the average man don’t mind dating a man their height or even an inch shorter. Its the women who are 5’5 and shorter who start acting like ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:37 PM
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Fair enough. I’m not saying you need to. I’m saying that personal vindictiveness is what drives me. Also, I should warn you: Unless you verbally get in their faces and put them in their place, people will never stop nagging you for being in a minimum wage job and not having a career. You’re asking why people do that, and I’m telling you its because they haven’t shedded the old arrogant spirit of needing to pressure you into doing something you don’t want to do. You may not care what people think…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:44 PM
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There are two advantages to building a career: More money to do fun things, like traveling and buying a decent car. Also more money to invest in retirement & personal wealth. This is the big one: Personal Prestige. I’m sorry to use controversial language here, but if you grew up in a White Middle Class family like I did, then you literally get no respect from those people if you are a minimum wage or Blue Collar worker. You are condescended to and constantly scolded for not living up to your pot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:24 PM
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I’m not dignifying your questions with a response. Its clear from your profile that all you do is troll people by asking them “gotchya” questions. You remind me of the Alt Right dudes I used to deal with who took the “all life is struggle” bullshit literally. I’m not listening to your advice, and I’ll figure things out my own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:05 PM
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Maybe who I am now is already good enough and she either sees that or she doesn’t. I don’t need to “prove” I’m a good person. Like sexual attraction, its obvious out of the gate whether someone is a good person. The vibes tell all. No BS challenges are needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:36 AM
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Why should there be resistance in the first place? Is dating a game where a man must “prove his toughness?” Screw that. If she challenges me like that, its because she’s not interested in me to begin with, and I’m gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:33 AM
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I appreciate every human being no matter their flaws Welp, there’s a big part of the problem right there. You shouldn’t just appreciate everyone and give them the benefit of the doubt. You should treat them based on how they behave. At first, yes, you wait to see what they are like. I do believe almost everyone deserves a basic level of decency. But once you find out about their character, you have the right to judge them accordingly. If you insist on appreciating everyone, you’ll continue to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:03 AM
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I suppose that would work on a more feminine woman who is looking to attach herself to a masculine man, a man who knows where he is going in life, and who wants a woman to join him on his journey. But that’s not me. I’m more comfortable prioritizing a woman and revolving around her wants and desires as opposed to her revolving around mine. I honestly would feel icky and weird if she was the one revolving around me, and saw me as some sort of leader. You see the difference? It matters to me what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:39 AM
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Because I want to have closure, and because I want to know if the reason was something beyond my control or not. If it was beyond my control, then I can make peace with the fact that there was nothing I could do about it. But if it was in my control, then perhaps I can work on it and improve so that the next girl doesn't reject me for the same reason. Without knowing the reason, I'm only left to speculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 11:59 PM
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I'm not saying you're obligated to date them just because they are interested in you. I'm saying that if they meet your requirements, but then you reject them anyway when they ask you out, you should have the courtesy of telling them why you rejected them. Otherwise, you might as well skip listing the "requirements" altogether, as they give would-be suitors the wrong impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 11:49 PM
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FWIW, she’s still married to her random hubby after this all went down back in 2012-2013, and they have a kid. I’ll give her credit for sticking with him. But yeah, the man she married was probably as desperate as she was. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:20 PM
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I don’t like PickMe women because they are inauthentic. A couple years ago, I had a girl message me on Facebook saying she liked all the same sports teams I liked, and I knew she was lying because she showed zero indication of actually being into sports. Turns out, she tried the same shit on my brother, which also didn’t work, then within a year, she was married to some other guy. She was just desperate for marriage. It didn’t matter who. I want any woman interested in me to be authentic. If it …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:06 PM
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The reason why men get upset over that is because its misleading. If she rejects you even after you met all her requirements, then clearly, you didn’t meet all her requirements. There was something she didn’t tell you that you missed, which begs the question: Why didn’t she tell you in the first place? Women shouldn’t play games like this. If they reject a man, they should say to his face, “look, I don’t find you attractive,” or “you’re giving off bad vibes buddy.” But women don’t do that becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:55 PM
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I got serious r/femaledatingstrategy vibes from reading that, and...yup, you are active in that community. You should be able to use your female intutition to figure out if a man is low value or is in your league. Let me put it this way: If you are seeing a man who is fit, handsome, well-dressed, intelligent, has diverse interests, seems to click with you, and yet, you still find something in him that makes him low value or selfish, then all I can say is: Like attracts like, and if you bought so…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:45 PM
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If you are in the top 20% of physically attractive men, women all flock to you anyway, which means you have an abundance of options. Since some of those top 20% of men are players, that means pumping and dumping is inevitable. Its perfectly consistent for most men to have a difficult time dating but for a subset of desirable men to engage in pump & dumps. The two scenerios aren’t mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:46 PM
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Excellent post. There’s a lesson in here for both men and women: If you aren’t asking yourself what YOU bring to the table - if you think relationships are all about you and what the other person does for you - then you don’t get to complain about being single, or stuck in a relationship with a selfish person. Both men and women these days just don’t understand the value of give and take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:35 PM
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I think that rule applies more to social class and culture than dating success. My close friends are all in a similar income bracket, but I'm much less successful then them. One guy is married to a legit, absolute Stacy (like, close to a 10/10 in terms of facial attractiveness), and another guy, although he's divorced, had a kid from that marriage and has been with numerous women. He even told me that when he was in highschool, it was hard for him not to have sex due to the social circles he ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:14 PM
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I’m not sympathetic to women OR men’s loneliness. More often then not, the loneliness is their own fault, whether that’s women refusing to settle for anything less than the top 20% of good looking men, or men refusing to improve themselves and instead bullying people on the internet. Neither gender gives a shit about the loneliness of the other, which means no one is interested in being altruistic or helping each other. Therefore, I don’t want to help them and in fact want them to continue to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 06:49 PM
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That explanation is plausible. And, its only in the last 100-150 years that nutrition has allowed men to maximize their height potential. Men over 6’ have always been around, but the average height today is much taller then before. In fact, its currently at an all time high. It stands to reason that as time goes on, the average male height will eventually reach 6’ as taller men produce more offspring each generation, and as improvements in nutrition and public health continue. With obesity at an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 01:19 PM
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Most of the things you mentioned I either agree with or can get behind. To me, what makes a man “Blue Pilled” is when he substitutes a sort of post-modern egalitarian ideology for reality. Specifically what that looks like is when he says things like “leagues don’t exist,” “its whats on the inside that counts,” “beauty is subjective,” “and any other statement that denies biological differences not just between men and women but within the male and female genders as well. I’ve also seen Blue Pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 10:15 AM
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Well yes. Think about it: If intelligence is correlated with good looks, and if intelligence is also correlated with wealth, then looks are correlated with wealth. And since looks and intelligence are mostly genetic/deterministic, well then, so is wealth. I know this is kind of a form of Social Darwinism, but Nature doesn’t bow before the egalitarian wishes of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 10:10 AM
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I'll admit that part was cool. But I seem to remember her appearance being teased earlier in the film when Ben Affleck finds the old 1918 photo of her with Steve and the gang. They play her theme song when he realizes who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:41 PM
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If you say so. We see the world differently. I believe that Leagues objectively exist, and I'll be the one who deals with the consequences of that mindset. As will you with your mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:39 PM
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Saw the Zach Snyder Justice League trailer today. It...really had me stoked. My coworker told me he's taking the day off and inviting his friends over and making a party out of it. I'm gonna have to watch the extended cuts of Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice before hand. Hated both theatrical cuts (like everyone else)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:27 PM
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Again, some dudes will cry and whine about how women "shouldn't test men," but we live in reality - you better just make peace with it if you want to win. She can't and won't accept any old dude that comes her way, and if she did, she wouldn't be worth having. Please discuss. If a woman is so good-looking and is so out of my league that she feels the need to do this shit, I'm dropping her like a hot potato and moving on. As we know from the Tinder messages of hot guys and shirt pranks on Youtube…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:18 PM
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They make women like you, not want to fuck you. Traits from category 2 are sexually arousing, and excelling in one or more of them is often equally or more appealing to women than perfect looks/money/status. Okay. And what would you say to a man who is not interested in manifesting those personality traits because they are some combination of vain, shallow, boring, too hard, or otherwise not worth pursuing because there are better things to do? This is what I hear when you say all those things: …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:20 PM
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My question is, why do you WANT women to settle for people they don’t actually want? Do you actually want to be “settled for?” I'm a month late here, but I want to answer this after I found it from looking at your profile when you asked more recent questions on PPD. You're confused between difference of "not wanting" someone and "settling" for someone. Say there's a woman interested in me. Say I'm better-looking than her. I'd be "settling" for her in the sense that I'd prefer a woman in my own l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 04:38 PM
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I have a question for you OP: It's one thing to accept that they way things are is the way things are, but it's another thing to embrace it as a good thing. I think most men on this subreddit have accepted the reality that Hookup Culture is here to stay, but that doesn't mean we approve of it or are enthusiastic about it like you seem to be. What is your personal reason for defending Hookup Culture? I think where you're wrong is in assuming there is a black and white choice between #TradLife, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 11:21 PM
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For one thing, did you actually go several weeks between talking to her? Because if you met with her for coffee, then waited that long, then asked to hang out again, it's entirely possible she lost interest. Girls are fickle like that. Alternatively, she could just be intimidated by you, and think you are out of her league. Between her nervousness at the coffee date, and the fact that she keeps checking you out at the gym, there's evidence to support that. You should try your chances one more ti…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/21 01:28 AM
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He embraces it because he seeks answers for his dating woes. He leaves it when he finds that he can't stomach the authoritarian/illiberal impulse latent in the cultural solutions proposed by RedPillers.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 09:46 PM
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Physical traits: I like thick legs, wide hips, porcelain skin, and a soft, fleshy belly. Size 10 and above. Thin girls do tend to have more attractive faces, but in terms of body type, I like chubby girls better. Think the kind of women portrayed by Classical artists in Renaissance paintings, especially the women featured in Peter Paul Rubens’ work. A girl so thin she looks like she needs to eat a cheeseburger is a turnoff. Personal traits: The main thing is don’t be a bitch, of which the charac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 03:48 PM
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I generally try to treat both men and women the same, since I don’t think either gender is more or less worthy of respect and decency, but like, I’ll hold doors open for women if the situation presents itself. They always say “thank you,” so that makes me feel good. I can’t say there’s anything else I do for women that stands out though. Again, I generally treat people equally
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 01:18 PM
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Because unfortunately, those opposed to the RedPill often critique it from a Leftist-Egalitarian perspective that denies objective physical differences between human beings. This compels them to believe that leagues don’t exist, and since they are so obviously wrong, this in turn fuels Redpill rage in a destructive feedback loop.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/21 10:03 AM
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I’m PurplePill because the RedPill is filled with incel losers who want to impose a totalitarian culture, both on women and on everyone else. They disgust me. But because some of their principles are correct (hypergamy, 80-20 rule, the supreme importance of looks), that’s why I’m PurplePilled and not some egalitarian BluePill normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:57 AM
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God I hope you’re right about that, because it seems like guys over 6’ have way more success on tinder then guys my height (5’9). That’s one of the reasons I LooksMax: To make up for my other deficiencies, which are height and bad teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:51 AM
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It was some Manosphere dude on Twitter. I think his name was Mike. He was a friend of a twitter troll named “Bronze Age Pervert,” if you know who that is. There is a catch: All his matches were girls from the Phillipines. He probably wouldn’t have gotten 3000 matches from American or European girls. Still though, it was an impressive haul. The other guys I had in mind are both American Youtube fitness stars: Connor Murphy and his friend, Brett Maverick. They both had screenshots on Instagram of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 07:51 PM
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They all did. No point in getting fit like that if you don’t show it off. Contrary to what girls will tell you, most of them like it when a hot, fit guy shows off his physique. Bathroom selfies are still inadvisable, but if you take a shirtless pic on the beach or somewhere nice, they’ll love it. I envy those dudes. They earned all the attention they get
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 07:25 PM
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Interesting. Nice job on putting in the effort and not getting fat. I’m not even going to bother with Tinder or Bumble unless I were to get a hot, lean physique. I was on Bumble for a month once and realized what everyone was talking about with the 80-20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 07:09 PM
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Let me ask you: Did you ever get a fit, muscular physique? Because based on videos I’ve seen on Youtube, and screenshots of the tinder accounts from liftbros, it seems like a hot physique is the sure-fire way of getting all the casual sex you want. Granted, alot of these dudes were over 6’0, so I’m sure that played a factor, but like, I saw a 5’8 guy get 3000 messages on his tinder, and he was fit AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:56 PM
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Everything you said here applies to a marriage where the husband asks his wife to cuck him after he initially seduced her and got her to marry him. In that situation, she would leave for a better man because the man she thought she married wasn’t the man he turned out to be. But what if he made it clear that a cuckold relationship is what he wanted from the start? What if, simultaneously, she wasn’t sexually attracted to him from the start, but she fell in love with him and married him anyway be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:43 PM
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I’ve been LooksMaxing since last August, both to feel better about myself and to maybe attract women. Through dieting alone, I’ve dropped from 224 to 176. I got lasik surgery to get rid of those ugly eye glasses. I already had a good wardrobe to begin with, but I bought a few more things and wore those nice shirts and jackets more often. And I started combing my hair to the side, since that seems to be the “in” style. Even if I don’t attract any women that I like, Looksmaxing makes me feel bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:30 PM
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What use in respecting traffic rules when everyone is the metaphorical equivalent of a crazy drunk driver? Like I said, I’ll take my chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 05:54 PM
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The assumption here is that the man wants to get married to her and spend the rest of his life with her. If he loves her, and if she isn’t sexually attracted to him, then letting her cuck him is a possible solution to keeping the woman he loves around. When I think about it though, you’re right in a way: Say a man and a woman date, he is attracted to her, but she isn’t sexually interested in him. Unrequited love. He finds this out real quick, and he moves onto the next woman until he finds one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 02:01 PM
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I disagree that you can have both a physically attractive man and a close, platonic friend in one person. It may not be impossible, but its rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:06 PM
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That could happen, but there was probably something else going on with those guys that caused their wives to leave. Some cucks get into things like “sissification” and are constantly nagging their wives about the lifestyle. It becomes exhausting to her after awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:46 PM
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If you say so. I’m willing to take my chances. Its better then expecting her to stay faithful and then finding out that she didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:44 PM
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Based on the observed behavior of women in the real world - dead bedrooms, the pareto principle, loveless marriages, etc - I’m going to say the answer is “No.” BUT, there’s a way around this. Say me and a woman really click. Say our personalities are super compatible, we share the same interests and core beliefs, we enjoy conversation with each other for hours, we are genuine platonic friends who enjoy each others company. But inevitably, while I find her desirable, she doesn’t find me sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:47 AM
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Agreed. I've had my fair share of platonic relationships with girls, and don't regret any of them. Guys and girls can be friends if they hit it off on similar interests, or just because their personalities mesh.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 01:56 AM
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I'm an introvert by nature, dating is exhausting, and I don't consider myself attractive, so that's why I gave it up. Can't say that my life is better for it, but it's less stressful. My daily life is predictable and easy. No curveballs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:55 AM
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Its got to be over 10 for both genders, and over 20 for women. I'd be surprised if men had a higher average body account then women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:52 AM
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This is the part you don't get. You have zero control over that.... But you can never stop anyone from judging you ever. Don't care, didn't ask, plus, when that happens to me, I call them out on the spot. And if the other person doesn't listen - male or female - I ghost them. I don't take shit from people when they decide I'm not a "real man" for having certain tastes and opinions. Precisely how much were you abused for having opinons or passions about things? Enough that we are having this conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 11:13 PM
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Clearly we do. "Vulnerability" means to me that you can express how you feel about something - whether you're happy about it, sad about it, angry with it, etc - without her judging you for having an opinion and showing emotion. "Vulnerability" does NOT mean, as you seem to think, a person who cries over the simplest things or resorts to mindless outbursts of rage. You went out of your way to deconstruct every single point made by the OP, and to my ears, you think the only way a woman won't be tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 10:34 PM
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Yup. I want to be sexually desired for my physical traits. I want her to think that I have a handsome face and a hot body (of course, that second one can be worked on). I also don’t want her to dismiss me because I’m only 5’9. Like you said, if she’s attracted to me because of money or social status, screw that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 09:03 PM
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Good advice, and I agree with all your points. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:59 PM
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It is when you talk about the things I’m interested in and I like to talk about. I don’t just talk about the weather or boring family bullshit. I don’t do small talk at all, actually. If its not an intelligent and/or emotional talk, I check out real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:06 PM
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Dude, I feel you on the validation thing. Having casual sex with hot girls is the ultimate validation of a man’s attractiveness. Still though, I want a relationship where I can have deep conversations with her and open myself up emotionally, and some guys make it sound like thats not possible while also being sexually attractive to women. Maybe it really is either/or (sexual attraction vs. being great friends), but I hope thats not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:04 PM
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Fair enough. You and I have different needs though. If I’m gonna text a 5 or a 6 like that, I’d much rather ask her if I can go down on her than ask her for a random BJ (which does nothing for me anyway). I’m submissive, and I don’t expect girls to please me physically. Still though, interesting food for thought
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:58 PM
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Accurate or not, its not gonna stop me from being vulnerable in the way the OP described and seeking out deep conversations with the woman I’m interested in. I’ll jump ship just like that if I find her boring. As much as I want her to be sexually attracted to me, it isnt worth it if the price is I’m stuck with a woman who is cold and dull
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:53 PM
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At least you admit to being bored with it. I never did any of that in the first place because the very thought of going to bars, drinking, and dancing bores me to tears. I get no joy or pleasure out of those scenes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:44 PM
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Good answer. Totally agree on the comparisons between a +20 girl is who open and doesnt stray vs a +5 who acts like a prude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:20 PM
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+30, depending on her age. It seems like most college-educated girls have a body count over 20 by the time they graduate. That’s based on anecdotal evidence from what girls have told me, and what I’ve read on Reddit and Quora. A body count in the 20s seems normal. I ignore official studies claiming the “average” is 7 to 11 for that reason. Maybe those numbers are true for non-college girls, but those aren’t whom I’m after. Its also age-dependent. A body count over 30 for a woman in her 30s and 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:15 PM
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Your entire post is Toxic Masculinity on display. Nice job providing fuel for everything the Woke Left believes in If my car needed an oil change, I’d take it to a shop that does oil changes. If it broke down, I’d call a tow truck. #Civilization #NiceThings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:02 PM
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Tough shit. She can hit the door if she doesn’t like in depth conversations where we share our feelings and thoughts about ourselves or whatever topic we are discussing. For me, there’s no such thing as a “friend” who I can’t have serious talks with. If women are inherently turned off by that stuff, like I’ve read from Redpill theory, then sobeit, I choose to be her female friend in a male body. I get so BORED so quick with the flirting and smiling alone. “You are hot and handsome, and I want yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:48 PM
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31 year old man here. YES, I’d switch roles in a heartbeat. To be sexually desired by hot members of the opposite gender, and to not be invisible, would be amazing. My confidence would soar, and my life would be better. I don’t know if I’d be happy, but I’d be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:58 PM
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If the man’s goal is to get a relationship, then you maybe right, he can get a relationship with a woman out of his league in terms of looks. But if his goal is to be sexually attractive to women, then, well, that’s just something he is or he isn’t based on his genetics. I think a lot of guys commenting on threads like this one aren’t just looking for relationships with pretty girls, but want to be desirable to pretty girls, which, if the Pareto Principle is true, means that only the top 20% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 03:55 PM
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I second your experience and your sentiments about only dating up. Its pretty much the same story with me, only I don’t text plain looking girls on a random Saturday night because even with casual sex, I strongly prefer a woman who is my looksmatch or more attractive then me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 01:13 PM
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My last date was definitely “down,” and my casual sex partners have either been “down” or my looksmatch. I’ve not had a casual sex partner who was more attractive then me. However, I have had girls IRL express interest in me who were out of my league. When I was a senior in highschool, a girl who I had a crush ever since we danced at freshman homecoming made it clear she liked me. Another pretty girl in highschool flirted with me and joked that she would like to marry me. Then three years ago wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 11:29 AM
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I don’t agree with Psychology Today about that. If honesty was an impossibility, then the High-Trust cultures unique to the West would have never come to pass. Honesty is possible, its just that there needs to be a culture of higher ethics, which we currently lack in the 21st century
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 09:22 PM
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Do whatever you want, whenever you want, with whoever you want. The sexual revolution is here to stay, and I have no interest in rolling it back. But in everything you do, be 100% brutally honest, direct, and specific with others in your intentions. Don't be vague, don't make others chase you, don't have cultural or societal expectations of others, don't hold either gender to "traditional" masculine or feminine standards, don't play guessing games or keep others on edge, and above all, don't pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 03:45 AM
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Seems accurate for the general population in the West. I do wonder about college campuses though, and about college-educated people in general. Based on anecdotal evidence and stories, it seems like they are the most promiscuous and have the most sexual partners. Since I’m college-educated myself, that’s who I like to compare myself to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:56 PM
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Can you blame them though? Nobody wants to be tricked or conned by someone who is faking it. I just wish women would be direct about their needs and wants instead of dressing it up in universal sounding language that in fact serves to benefit their interests alone. Like you said, “just be yourself” is codeword for “so I can see for myself if you are alpha or beta.” Direct communication and expression of desires would solve a lot of these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:52 PM
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LOL, I’m pretty sure this guy was a major writer on “Return of Kings,” the site run by RooshV. Whether its the Manosphere or the Alt Right, all their “leaders” are trash human beings.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 07:40 PM
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I’m not the most qualified to give advice here, as I’m about as desperate for romantic attention - from a woman I find attractive - as you are, but here’s some help: The self-hate is not going away, so you need to learn to manage it as opposed to vanquishing it. The best way to do that is to learn to never rely emotionally on others. Expect that people will screw you over and find you to be not good enough. You’re in danger of either being suicidal or going the Elliot Rodger route, and someone w…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 07:27 PM
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It changes as you get older. Remember when we were in highschool, and it was weird if like a junior dated a freshman? By the time you are in your 30s, the acceptable age ranges expand by up to 15 years. A year and a half ago when I was 30, I briefly dated a 42 year old woman. We went out to dinner once, held hands in public, and no one looked at us weird or otherwise judged us. As a general rule of thumb, I think the Rule of 7 is legit. (Oldest: Your age, minus 7, times 2. Youngest: Your age, di…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 07:05 PM
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Exposure to RedPill social media definitely put ideas in my head that I otherwise might not have formulated on my own, but I was only there in the first place because I was seeking out help due to my failure to attract women. So ultimately, it was my lack of dating success that pushed me down that road. What changed was when I found out that some of the edgy/shitlord RedPill takes were in fact unironic, which horrified and disgusted me. Redpillers truly are misogynistic, like, Elliot Rodgers lev…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 06:55 PM
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To be honest, people on the receiving end of our emotions aren’t obligated to care. They are obligated not to judge us. There’s a difference between belittling a guy because he gets emotional at the movies vs. not going up to him and giving him a hug every time he is sad.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/21 06:47 PM
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Well said. As men, I don’t believe we are entitled to sex or female affection. But we are entitled to happiness and to not suffering, and in order for that to happen, the cultural standards and expectations around men need to be changed entirely. The bottom 80% of men should not be expected to attract women, shouldn’t be expected to make an effort to attract women, and shouldn’t be looked down on or shamed by others for being single. Eliminate the pressure on men, and happiness will rise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:31 PM
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I think women find men attractive only in comparison to other men. The same fit, 5’9 guy with the same facial features will be hot and desirable in a society of 5’4 fatsos, and will be invisible in a society of 6’1 Greek gods. I deny that inherent beauty exists, and frankly, I deny that many of the the so-called “ugly” features in modern man are even ugly to begin with. I just think women happen to find them ugly, which therefore makes them “bad.” For example, I unironically see nothing wrong wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:19 PM
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The problem with your entire post is that you want to normalize standards for males that haven’t been pertinent since 10,000 BC. Here’s what it comes down to: -What is the nature of women? What do women want? How can I, as a man, become attractive to women? vs. -What are the cultural expectations of me as a man? Why does society demonize me if I don’t get married and have kids? Why is Monogamy and Family Life so privileged? As civilization developed, Monogamy emerged as a way to keep society sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:10 PM
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So imagine every man on planet earth is fit and muscular, has a full head of hair, good jawline, proportionate facial features, all that stuff. Women would find something else to distinguish men (probably height or eye shape). The pyramid would reset itself, with the “new” bottom 80% being universally more attractive then the previous 20%, but still in the same boat of pain as the old 80% that was filled with overweight, badly dressed men. Female nature doesn’t change, which is why we should sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:48 PM
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For me, a healthy, satisfying sex life is important because, if I had it, then I would feel validated as a man. I would feel like I was a “Real Man,” worthy of the love and respect of women.* When I was in my early 20s, sex was purely a carnal desire, but that was just a phase. Now, its all about validation. For the 80-90% men who don’t have satisfying sex lives, the only thing that can be done about it is to change and alter what the societal and cultural expectations of men are, which is a yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 08:15 AM
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Pt.2 Personality does matter, but not in the way most of us guys who have dabbled with the Redpill think. Being a nice guy is, well, uh, nice, but it's by no means sufficient if the goal is to get laid, especially when women can tell from a mile way when a man is using his niceness as a front. My own experience with being friends with these types of men is that some of them are genuinely nice dudes, while others just use good manners for manipulative purposes and in fact harbor seething resentme…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 07:49 PM
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Pt.1 31 year old dude here who falls on the spectrum but is a functioning, productive adult – my own job, apartment, car, etc. I'm going to share a bit of my own life experience in order to illuminate some of the issues the OP brings up. Most of the OP's arguments are objectively true. However, there's something important she is missing. Yes, we all figured out in highschool that girls are attracted to guy's who are hot and popular. But what the OP is missing is our optimistic, blue-pilled, spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 07:49 PM
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Less attractive then she was in her 20s? Sure. Undesirable? No freaking way.
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