TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

DRW0813 Archive

View 2 posts and 226 comments by DRW0813 on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
24

CMVDRW0813/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:04 PM
0

Question for RedPillDRW0813/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:47 PM
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
–

No. It's trolling. I am arguing that manipulating someone into verbally saying yes isn't real consent because she does not want sex. You are saying that is the same thought as a rapist who says "she said no but wanted sex". Your reasoning: both sides tie consent to want more than words. But you are ignoring the fact that they are totally opposite positions. Saying "no means yes so go for it" and saying "yes can mean no so be careful and when in doubt don't have sex" are opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:16 PM
–

Its hard to determine if you are being sincere or just trolling. I'm leaning towards you are trolling though or grossly misreading me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
–

> you sound like rapists who try to defend themselves by saying their victim wanted it Could you explain? I am putting MORE guardrails. If a person doesn't want to have sex, and are manipulated into sex, they did not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:32 PM
–

You are right. Annoyance is no where close to death. You have said > "Yes. She consented on the tenth... doesn't change the fact that she consented" But you agree that saying yes to avoid a negative consequence does NOT mean it's consent. The degree of the negative consequence is irrelevant. A yes to "have sex with me or get shot" and "have sex with me or be annoyed for forever" both mean she does not want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:57 PM
–

> nowhere near It is though. The reason you agreed that my example is not consent is that I was presented with "consent or have a negative consequence of being shot" If the 10th time the guy asks, she is also presented with "consent or have a negative consequence of being asked an 11th-infinite more times" It's the same scenario, just different degrees of negative consequences. Saying yes to avoid a negative outcome is not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:35 PM
–

> if she said yes, that's consent If she said no 9 times and said yes under duress to stop the pestering and does not want to have sex, but wants the negative consequences to stop, then that isn't consent. Similarly if a boss says "if you don't have sex with me, I'll fire you", and she says yes, not because she wants sex but because of the negative consequence of being fired, that is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:23 PM
–

> they consented If a person is holding a gun to my head asking for money, and I give it, did I consent to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:12 PM
–

Who is in the wrong, the person coercing someone into sex they do not want. or the person who said yes under duress?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:34 PM
–

Who is the person in the wrong? the one doing the pestering or the one who gave in? the "its on me to say no" still means "you gave money you did not want to give". Sex with someone who does not want to have it is rape. It goes back to why the person said yes. Saying yes under duress is not yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:29 PM
–

> then leave its not that easy. coworkers, lab partners, friends of friends who are invited to the same parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:20 PM
–

Not all threats are violent. The kids game "I'm not touching you" to annoy someone is still annoying someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:14 PM
–

Did you give the money willingly because you WANTED to give the money or did you give the money because you "gave in"? You didn't want to give them the money but it was easier than the constant badgering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:13 PM
4

Bob says "I am an astronaut. I teach music to elementary school kids" Alice replies "an astronaut is someone who is prepared to go to space. Teaching music is not being an astronaut" Is that "no true scotsman fallacy" or is this "Bob is wrong and Alice is pointing out he is wrong"? Teaching music to kids is not preparing to go to space. Feminism is the belief men and women should have equal rights. Believing that men and women should not have equal rights is, by definition, not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:53 PM
1

How do you define feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:15 PM
3

> cannot be seen as not a real red piller Going to use a different example. I identify as Jewish. A core tenet of Judaism is the belief in one god. I am an atheist. I do not believe that god exists. My beliefs contradict my identity. Who is a better representative of Judaism? Myself or someone who identifies as Jewish AND believes in god? Who better represents feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:55 PM
1

"No true scotsman" is different from calling out hypocrisy and pointing out that your anecdote is not data.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:45 PM
2

His anecdote is an anecdote. Can I say "my cousin is a redpill guy and thinks all women should be slaves and treated as property. Therefore all redpill ideology is like this"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:40 PM
6

Thank you for sources and stats!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:37 PM
1

How do you define feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:33 PM
2

Except that's not how humans work. You can think "it doesn't affect me", and bury it. But that doesn't mean it's not there. Have you ever tried therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:06 PM
5

You might think you "get over it", and then end up punching a wall cause someone spilled your drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:59 PM
4

> I do not respect emotions I'd look into that if I were you. Having distain for emotions makes a bad life partner and father if you are interested in either of those things. > women care that people might get hurt, while men tell you people might get injured Just because you can't measure feelings doesn't mean they aren't real. Emotional pain is something that should be considered when weighing outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:45 PM
15

Then show me data. Your post is anecdotal as well - that liberal women want conservative men - that liberal men can't get women because of this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:50 PM
25

> if intelligence and empathy were really as important as women would say, liberal and "softer" men would have more success's I'm a chubby short liberal dude. All my friends play magic the gathering and are liberal. The chubbiest nerdy guys you've ever met. We are all happily married. > despite checking off these intellectual boxes Emotionally intelligent men don't make posts that say "liberal women don't know what they want".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:20 PM
4

Science is better than surveys But asking the woman you are interested in is better than saying "this study says you are attracted to height. I'm short. Science says you think I'm ugly". Similarly, your logic kind of negates all science. "Why don't we cure depression by asking people why they are sad. We don't need studies" sort of vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:14 PM
9

GDP per capita in Vietnam: $5,066.0 Minimum wage in America: $15,080 The worst paid person in America is rich by any country you are thinking of visiting. The fact that you are visiting means you are probably wealthier than the poorest Americans. They ONLY want your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:25 PM
56

Number of times I've seen people discuss passport bros anywhere besides this subreddit: 0, and I'm chronically online Number of times it's brought up here: every week
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:13 PM
8

Then the guy and his mom don't have a good relationship. Haha. If a guy is begging for a blowjob, and his partner doesn't want to give him one, and they've had an adult conversation about it then he can either - leave - deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:43 PM
14

Cause he's tired? Cause his mom was being annoying? Cause his mom had a Mac and he works with PC's? Is he obligated to fix a computer because he can? The mindset that women are obligated to have sex is rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:28 PM
6

> these are mainstream opinions Show me data. "Mainstream opinions" are hard to find for a person who I'm betting 98% of America has never heard of. Is possible to have a mainstream opinion that Vincent Keymer is better than Wesley So? Or is that a niche topic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:21 PM
3

fallacy of division: applying some sex positive feminists views apply to all feminists. Strawman: feminism is okay with incest, racism, and misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:03 PM
16

Get some help... If a single guy in IT helps people at work with their computers, and comes home and doesn't want to fix his mom's computer, is that evidence that all men only help when they get something out it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:48 PM
-2

Weird way to word the title. Makes it sound like you are saying the blue pill lies. Came in looking for a fight to read the post and totally agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:47 PM
5

I 100% agree that people should get out of their comfort zone. But your post of "EVERYONE can be successful at a bar" and "introversion is a choice" is dangerous for the incels that are here. Its like being gay isn't a choice and its dangerous to tell people that they are wrong for being gay. Tell people they need social outlets. But club=sex isn't true for everyone no matter how often they try. Pottery classes, improv classes, chess clubs, etc... There is a social outlet for everyone, but its n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:45 PM
4

I usually agree with blue pill takes. 99% of the time. But introverts are definitely real. Yeah. You gotta put yourself out there. But bars and clubs are terrible for a lot of shy people. Board games and dungeons and dragons is a much better place to meet people. your post is getting close to "hey depressed people, have you tried not being sad".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:05 PM
–

> violence is good > To hire based on which person is more likely to get pregnant is not discrimination Its so hard to tell trolls vs crazy people. If you are a troll, what enjoyment are you getting it out it? Have you spoken to a therapist about it? If you are a crazy person, what is different between your world view and Nazi ideology? Nazi's also rationalized their deeds with genetic differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:01 PM
–

> Why would I hire a woman over a man all other things being equal considering one can get pregnant and suffers monthly pains This is the type of discrimination woman are fighting against. Let's reframe your bad logic with other bad logic: Why would I hire a man when he's more violent than a woman? Why would I hire someone in a wheelchair for a job writing code? Why would I hire (insert discriminated group) when they could (insert false negative stereotype and/or something that doesn't matter). …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:40 PM
–

in 100% of everything? no. in 99.999% of everything. Yes. No, you won't have a female sprinter competing in the olympics with men. Last I checked that's .0001% of jobs that require maximum physical strength to be competitive with others in that field. Even men on construction sights have varying levels of strength so saying "a woman can't do this job" is just wrong. You know this. Its intentionally misrepresenting what women mean when they want equality. And then using that misrepresentation to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:21 PM
–

It means they have the same rights, same opportunities. There is a difference between "women can be CEO's also means they have the same libidos"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:59 PM
–

> equality did Saying women are equal to men is not saying women are the same as men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:55 PM
-1

> game is overrated Game is in the eye of the beholder. There is a balding juggler on TikTok who gets the THIRSTIEST comments cause his juggling skills are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:11 PM
8

Where are you getting your numbers from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:05 PM
8

> does this happen enough How often does this have to happen? Let's say there are 600,000 divorces a year. 30% of women are stay at home moms. Meaning you have 200,000 women a year who just lost their income. In addition they have taken themselves out of the labor market so have rusty marketable skills. 200,000 women every single year is a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:48 PM
–

> they will tell you don't know if women are actually wearing makeup Do you know if a woman is wearing make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:36 PM
16

> Like porn Porn is as realistic as Call of Duty. But yeah. My wife desires my 5'6 chubby body. I'm assuming you must be a teenager or early 20's. In mid 20's to 30's you'll start realizing that listening is one of the hottest things you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:07 PM
40

> men shouldn't have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships As a 5'6 overweight guy who never works out, yet is happily married, I can tell you men don't have to be hypermasculine to get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:50 PM
–

> should be 25 years > only reason anyone can oppose this is if they are a sl#t or smell like human waste I don't oppose it. But dude. Get some help. That is a LOT of anger
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:11 AM
0

> why do you think RP was able to package generic advice into an appealing thing for people who struggle It blames the problem on someone who isn't them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:00 PM
2

>that's a stray man. the complaint is that blue pillars claim that personality is the sole reason That is irony cause you have a strawman argument yourself. "Sole reason" is misrepresenting blue pill arguments. Personality is the biggest part.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:46 PM
16

You asked for proof and someone did the research for you. Something you should be doing before angrily ranting online. And now you don't believe the peer reviewed research just cause it doesn't fit your narrative? In all honesty, what are you looking for when asking for proof if not this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:01 PM
6

I think he saw Gladiator or some AI YouTube documentary and the Dunning Kruger effect kicked in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:28 PM
32

> the men there spent most of their time with other men, discussing philosophy and politics 99% of men spent their time in the field farming. Your view of history is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:30 PM
–

is either sexist, misogynist, transphobic how do you define those terms? A common right winged talking point is "I'm not transphobic, I just think they should have less rights" or "I'm not sexist, I just think women should have fewer rights".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:42 PM
0

Women aren't kids though... they are humans. To head off other metaphors, women aren't disabled either. Finding justification in your hatred and saying it's not hatred seems emotional and not logical. Name another context when saying "I judge this human off of prejudice and stereotypes and believe they are inferior" isn't hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:16 PM
2

Could you explain the difference between your views and the following logic applied to different groups: "Some may call me a racist because I don't hire black people. It's not racism, it's just that they are inferior to the Aryan race" I do understand you believe women are inferior. What I don't understand is your belief that that viewing them as inferior isn't hatred and resent. What other context is calling someone inferior not considered hatred? Racists will claim that the misused facts prove…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:08 PM
1

How do you define misogyny? Is someone a racist for saying "I don't want to hire a black man because I think a white man would be a better employee"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:53 PM
2

Do you think the "popular hot girl" won't be harassed in English class when someone creates and spreads fakes? Do you think the woman who is slightly overweight won't feel self conscious when fakes of her are skinnier than she is? Do you think a teacher won't face harassment when a student she failed makes fakes and spreads them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:23 PM
7

Unfortunately I don't think this is going to be the case. The harassment and shame women experience is going to be there whether the pics are real or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:00 PM
–

probably around 5% Are you aware the most studies put that number in the 50-70% range? there are no disadvantages to a women when reporting Let's use some real numbers. Only 6% of rapists ever get prison time. Only 50% of reported rapes even result in an arrest. 89% of women face some sort of "disadvantage" or backlash from reporting. Let's DRASTICALLY change these numbers so we don't have to go back and forth moving the goalposts. That would mean that - 37% of rapes go unreported - 9% of rapist…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:57 PM
15

Is it that strange one of the biggest differences between the male experience and the female experience is brought up a lot in a subreddit debating the differences between the male and female experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:08 PM
–

That's unfortunate. Sorry you experienced that. Being falsely accused can be life ruining. Let's take your 20% false accusation rate. What percentage of women do you think don't report a sexual assault because they know they will be shamed? Using your numbers, as a society, who should we believe, the 20% chance the male is falsely being accused, causing more women to not report. Or the 80% of women who are telling the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:07 PM
–

For your answer to number 1. Sorry you witnessed that. What percentage of rape accusations do you think are fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:46 PM
–

Not disagreeing, but should also had that men get away with behaviors that are abusive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:12 PM
–

This! Of the 3 male child molesters I have had the displeasure of knowing, 0 of them ever faced any consequences despite evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:08 PM
–

So your concerns are circumcision, female rapists, and conscription? For female rapists, do you have any data that shows that they aren't punished as severely as male rapists? For every high profile "female teacher gets no prison time for molesting students" there is a high profile "male rapist gets no prison time for being good swimmer". Your views could be selection bias. In terms of conscription, do you really think there will ever be another draft?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:06 PM
54

Ask a dad where their kids' dentist is located. Ask a man where the extra hand soaps are located. Ask a man the contact info for the wedding photographer a week before his wedding. I wonder what percentage of posts and comments on this subreddit are teenagers who just want to say "women are lazy/sluts/liars/whatever other insult that comes to mind"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:32 PM
3

What percentage of rape victims do you think are lying or mistaken?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:44 PM
15

Not all asexuals are aromantic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:34 PM
–

Damn. Ok. So this is a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:59 PM
–

Congrats. You understand the definition. But you failed to explain how it's different from lying to a woman about loving her for sex. I don't understand guys who don't understand that lying and manipulating a girl for sex is wrong. "I just lied that I love her" turns into "I just lied about how strong the drink was"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:57 PM
–

Damn dude. You really want to rape women. Not a good look. Explain the difference between "I agree to have sex with you because we are in love. I love you and you love me" and lying about love is different than "I agree to have sex with you if we use a condom" and lying about the condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:45 PM
10

You have an out. But it's pre-emotive. Wrap it up. There is also male birth control now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:39 PM
17

Do you want to be life partners with a woman who doesn't value decency? I never understood guys guys who complain girls only go for bad boys. 1) it's not true. 2) do you want to date a girl who is like that anyways? Do you want to marry a girl like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:38 PM
–

Under false pretenses. So therefore, no. Same way stealthing is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:33 PM
–

"I love you babe. You are the only one for me" 10mins later after sex "see ya!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:29 PM
2

Hahahaha. Good old fashion Nazi logic! "We have a right to oppress people because we are better" I'm guess you agree with the White Man's Burden as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:02 PM
1

Do you disagree with the science that says that brains aren't fully developed until someone is 23-25?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:42 PM
3

Shouldn't you be arguing that we should raise the age of adulthood since science shows that an 18 year old's brain isn't fully developed yet? I think the statement "it's wrong to let kids take house hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt" has science behind it. Saying "I want to date a child because they don't fully understand the consequences of their actions" is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:25 PM
1

Why? If the genders of all CEO's and world leaders were switched, how would that lead to the collapse of capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:08 PM
2

Ooo interesting. A rare "sexism is okay because women are inferior". I don't see many people argue that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:52 PM
2

Not sure what dictionary you are using. forcing her against her will Philosophical question here, can someone truly consent if they don't understand what they are consenting to? A 15 year old's brain is not fully developed, thus we say that a 15 year old cannot make an informed decision and therefore cannot consent. Do you agree with that? An 18 year old's brain isn't fully developed, however as a society we have made that the cut off point. The reason it's creepy is because the same reason it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:49 PM
3

Lol. Attractive people can definitely be creepy. Just wondering, why do you think society frowns on middle aged men dating young girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:37 PM
2

The word "loser" should be changed to "creep". DiCaprio is a creep. A 40year old man might find a 21 year old woman attractive, but the power imbalance of a young naive woman who's brain is still developing and an older man is too big for it not to be creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:19 PM
13

elements of society have patriarchal elements About 90% of Fortune 500 CEO's are men. 80% of Republican congressmen are men. 100% of American Presidents have been men. In places of immense political and financial power women are disenfranchised. thinking that there is some boogeyman called the patriarchy is emotional thinking Thinking that because women have an easier time getting a date that the patriarchy isn't real is emotional thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:03 PM
5

I don't see it as a negative I think that's the main difference between the red pill and feminism. The red pill takes the statement "society is built to put men into positions of power" as the normal order of things. Feminism takes the statement "society is built to put men into positions of power" and adds "in a zero sum game, this disenfranchises women. Oppressing people is not a good or desirable thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:52 PM
6

The Patriarchy is the fact that society is built to value the male perspective more than the female perspective. This results in a system built to empower men more than in empowers women. What it's not It doesn't mean that all men succeed. Far from it. it doesn't mean that women can't become CEO's it doesn't mean that there aren't areas in society where women are valued more. What it does mean - men are much more likely to hold positions of power - women, in general, have to work harder to get t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:47 PM
8

That the patriarchy doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:17 PM
19

The problem is you are assuming all types of affection are good and wanted. Any incel could also get affection from creepy perverted old men who want to degrade them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:17 PM
0

Hahahahaha. Ok Paul. Have fun with your cognitive dissonance. "Women shouldn't be cautious around men cause it's sexists yet women who aren't cautious around men deserve what's coming to them" I do hope one day you mature enough to realize your double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:48 PM
0

why the fuck would she randomly drink anything provided by a stranger I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused. What type of red pill are you? Are you a) women shouldn't fear men. It's sexists that women are more afraid of men than bears. b) women who trust men should be abused. It's their own fault They are contradictory. It seems like you are more "women shouldn't fear ME but they should fear other men"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:18 PM
3

Again, you are using strawmans instead of refuting my point. don't complement. Leave us alone. that's what I've listened to yet you still aren't satisfied It's tricky arguing with someone who doesn't understand nuance. Answer this one question: Is there a difference between catcalling a strange woman and telling a date they look beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:14 PM
0

bystandards I find it interesting that red pill men are ignoring this part of the original bear/man alone in the woods analogy. I wouldn't feel threatened Do you think it would be unreasonable for someone to feel threatened in that scenario, even if you personally don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:49 PM
3

Don't complement or speak to women Who is saying that? Thats a strawman. don't complement If you can't distinguish the difference between "nice tits" and "great job closing the peterman account", that's on you. If you can't distinguish between telling a woman on the street "nice breasts" and a woman you are on a date with "you look beautiful" that's also on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:45 PM
1

visually I do find it interesting when people take arguments in an unexpected direction. 1) are you saying that it's okay for women to fear tall Latino men on sight? 2) can 5'4 dorky white guys not be predators and drug a drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:41 PM
-1

1) I didn't say this was in the hood. If a random man outside a 5 star restaurant says "hey richie rich boy. Nice ass Rolex. I'd love to have it sometime" and 1/3rd of your rich friends had been mugged, would you feel safe? 2) In this analogy, are you saying it's dumb to be a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:31 PM
-1

bears are going to be bears. Predators are going to be predators Exactly. A woman can look at a bear and know it's a bear. How can a woman know if a man is a predator at a glance? with your body parts on display After a bear attack, is someone going to ask if you wanted to be attacked by a bear?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:14 PM
3

Let's say you have a nice watch. If a random person on the street comes up to you and says "hey there rich boy. Nice ass watch. Love to have it sometime", are they complimenting you or threatening you? Now the same scenario again but 1/3rd of your rich friends have been mugged and had their Rolex's stolen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:09 PM
–

you can't form a trusting relationship when she thinks you are an evil beast, worse than an animal This is called a strawman. The actual position "a woman would more likely encounter a random bear alone in the wild with no witnesses than encounter a random man alone in the wild with no witnesses" It's less that a woman might "thinks you are an evil beast" and more that a woman thinks you MIGHT be an evil beast. Whereas for a bear she KNOWS what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:45 PM
–

Are you implying that power dynamics aren't real? Haha. Do billionaires and homeless people have the same amount of power when stopped by a policeman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:38 PM
-4

your "logical conclusion" is leaving out other life necessities. It's safer living with food, water, and the risk of sexual assault than living without food, water, and knowing that the bear isn't likely to hurt you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:29 PM
–

Historically, in America, which of the following groups have been marginalized and claim victimhood: people of color women men bears Is there a difference using statistic to justify racism and leaving out the effects of marginalization, and using statistics to prove disparities in power dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:24 PM
–

TL:Dr- historical context is important The difference between using statistics to try to justify racism and using statistics to prove that men are more dangerous than bears is historical power dynamics. Are the statistics being used to keep the hierarchy of power or to distrust it? This is important because it brings in a historical context. For example: saying 13% of the population commits 50% of the crimes is SO misleading. It's leaving out centuries of discrimination, racist justice systems, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:18 PM
–

Lesbians have known for centuries that you don't need a dick to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:05 AM
8

I'm an atheist, but rights come from god. Inalienable and such. Your argument is like saying "you have been kidnapped. You should be happy that your captor feeds you because he doesn't have to. He could just kill you" while ignoring that your captor shouldn't have taken away your freedom to begin with. Be glad that the mugger only stole your wallet. Be glad that your boss decided not to give you a raise and keep the money for himself. He could have fired you. It the logic of the oppressors. "Be …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:00 AM
–

What do you mean by "behave"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:33 PM
10

Hahaha. My wife and I joke that I'm a beta. Im not a manly man. But she doesnt want a manly man. My sensitivity doesn't hurt our sex life. You don't need muscles or a six pack to be an equal and respectful partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:42 PM
-1

how as he being hypocritical Okay. here is an example of Jordan Peterson criticizing women crying. never described it as a flaw He describes it as a reason why women shouldn't have careers and should just be mothers. Which is similar to saying "the male temperament isn't bad. They are just too violent to be around kids. Men's place is in the military." It's pseudoscience used to discriminate. because they are [spineless] Ok dude. I get you are hurt. But if you can't see the hypocrisy of being an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:27 PM
0

it's okay to make fun of him for crying No. Haha. It's not okay to make fun of him for crying. It IS okay to point out his hypocrisy. It is okay to point out that someone who criticizes women for having emotions also has emotions. how about just criticize his points Why call male feminist spineless? male feminists are more often than not bad feminists I'd rephrase that to "there are many male feminists who are bad feminist" and I'd agree with you. So called "white knights" who defend women at ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:56 PM
3

The overwhelming majority of societies In the last 200 years after colonialism. Which still disproves your idea that it's biological. why are matriarchal societies rare Because men are stronger. I'm not arguing that men and women have no biological differences. Haha. I'm arguing that their biological differences don't justify the double standard you have. Thus why I specifically asked for what you think is the biological difference that justifies your views. Think about it this way, cats and dog…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:44 PM
2

Male feminist here. I'm going to engage you as authentically as I can and dismiss the immaturity in how your post is written. In the future, leave out digs like "spineless" healthy masculinity creates a space of safety for all around them We agree on this definition. they'll rage on and threaten women who don't fit their world view. Ex making fun of Jordan Peterson for crying. Jordan Peterson is a person who fully embodies toxic masculinity. Promoting tolerance does not mean accepting intoleranc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:06 PM
4

I'm a dude, but the obvious answer is numbers. There aren't enough local male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:48 PM
3

biology... women being topless in public is scandalous You know toplessness is not biologically scandalous? Haha. Like there are lots of societies where women are full on topless all the time and it's not sexual. At best you could argue this from a societal view point. Which still isn't that good of an idea as your argument would boil down to "double standards are okay because our society says so". Just wondering, what biological differences do you think exist that make it okay to think that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:08 PM
5

So you admit you have a double standard? the overwhelming majority of men who have their shirts off are not attractive. Issue 1: you are assuming most men who take off their shirts aren't attractive and therefore aren't attracting attention while also assuming that most women who wear skimpy clothes are attractive and therefore attract attention. But let's ignore this assuming. Haha Issue 2: by your logic that doesn't matter. Men with shirts aren't "constantly trying to attract attention and are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:26 PM
8

Which assumes your correlation between stability and clothes... which is silly. Would you agree with a gender flipped statement: "women shouldn't date men who run without a shirt on. They are doing it to attract attention from women and therefore are more likely to cheat"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:31 PM
6

Your argument assumes that you can't trust your partner. If you can't trust your partner, why are you with them? Trust isn't built around whether they wear skimpy clothes or not. To put it another way, it's immature to pick a partner based on what they wear. When you need someone to drive you to the hospital when you are sick in 20 years, or someone to sign a mortgage with, the length of their dress doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:43 PM
–

what's the difference The difference is one is a human and one isn't. you did not answer the question Im a bit confused on your purpose here? People gave the answer to your (offensive) question. And you are dismissing it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:20 AM
3

"Women could not universally open bank accounts in America" would be a better way for me to have phrased it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:58 PM
15

see any couple in their 70s and 80s. They barely like each other anymore. A couple in their 80s now, who started dating when they turned 20, met each other in 1963. Women couldn't open banking accounts until 1974 with the Equal Credit Opportunity act. Many unhappy old couples married before the current modern age. Before women had the legal protections, and definitely before women were viewed as socially equal. They have been together so long they are dependent on each other despite not liking e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:08 PM
9

Let's follow your argument for a second. Let's say a guy at the gym is staring intently on a woman doing squats. If she isn't allowed to say "that guy is being a creepy weirdo" or "his presence makes me feel uncomfortable", in your opinion, what is she supposed to do or say?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:46 PM
1

Definitely. First, get rid of traditional gender roles and divide up the work to play to our strengths. Its not "I'm the man and my decision goes". Im better at cleaning. She's better at dealing with mechanics to get the car fixed. We are both bad at being handy so we know it's worth the extra $100 to hire someone to mount the tv for us. Second, trust. I have no issue with her hanging out with guys. She has no issues with my best friend being a woman. Third, communication, if a problem arises, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:31 PM
1

More actually. Because she didn't have to match with people for them to send her a message. Her inbox had over 1000 different people sending her messages over a 2month span. About 80% were "want sum fuk?" Or variations
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:17 AM
1

It was ok Cupid. So by matches, not matches as much as messages
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:14 AM
1

Yeah. Large pretty girls get a lot of matches
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:54 AM
2

It sucks for concerts, but we'll never hit our head on the ceiling. And my short legs fit perfectly into cramped airline seats
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:13 AM
2

5'6
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:10 AM
9

Actually I did. Mainly, I treated her like a person. Not a game. Was totally myself. My wife says that's one thing she loved about me since day 1. I wasn't playing games. I wasn't trying to impress. On our first date I mentioned my therapist. Haha It's also not "settling" because there is a LOT of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:29 AM
7

Im fat, short, and blue pilled. Because 10 years ago I found my fat, short AMAZING wife. In college I tried, and failed, to be an alpha. I sort of an incel. I did a lot of self work, took some of the infamous gender studies classes people often make fun of, and found happiness. So no. The redpill failed me. The blue pill is awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:16 AM
1

2-8% false accusation rate that. Plus 2% for people who don't like peer reviewed studies for sources
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:12 PM
0

Yeah. This is why I asked the question. Not saying No isn't the same thing as saying yes. Which is why consent should have room for the person to say what they want and what they don't want Thinking that a woman wouldn't feel scared or pressured to do something they don't want to do because a guy is scrawny leaves out so many variables about power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:17 PM
1

even less of them don't know that they are raping... If someone's view of consent is "I didn't hear no", and their partner doesn't feel comfortable/safe enough to say no, then is that rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:07 PM
1

Do you give them the space to say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:59 PM
1

That's where the "gray" area is. The Implication from Its Always Sunny points out cases where a person might not say "no", but also might not want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:58 PM
1

If a woman doesn't feel safe enough to say no, did she consent? If she was pressured into have sex she didn't want to have, but didn't say no, did she consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:52 PM
-1

Aziz Ansari That's why consent is important. Making during that she is 100% okay giving a blowjob is important. Does a woman feel safe enough to say "no"? Does she feel pressured? Is pressuring someone into sex when they don't want to the same as rape? That's why I'm asking. My guess is people aren't going to have the same answer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:50 PM
1

It's interesting how many guys view consent as a joke. The go to throw away non-answer is signing forms. The thread from earlier today about what evidence is needed to prove rape shows guys saying that a woman is responsible for her own rape if she passes out. It's not as stupid as a question as you might think
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:46 PM
-1

should we start bringing consent forms to sign Haha. There are ways to make sure the other person is on board, comfortable, and enthusiastic without paperwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:35 PM
-3

If this was such a stupid question, then why is rape an issue? If everyone agreed on what consent is, then there wouldn't be any problems. The thread about what evidence is needed to prove rape had some pretty alarming responses. So I just wanted to hear what specifically red pilled guys thought about consent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:28 PM
-1

we have this all figured out If everyone knew about consent, then there shouldn't be any issues with he said/she said sort of deals. The thread earlier today about what qualifies as evidence for rape had some people saying that a passed out women at a frat party was responsible for being raped. So I wanted to see what the redpilled thought about consent in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:02 PM
3

The woman's life has already been damaged, so damaging it further isn't bad? having your rapist walk free Not a woman, so I can't speak to this directly, but I can imagine knowing that you pissed off a rapist who is free, probably hurting other women, and could hurt you again isn't nothing. Meanwhile, most rapists go free. So most likely a false accusation isn't a death sentence. It's hard to quantify this, so anecdotally, 4 of the 4 rapists that I have known have good jobs and faced no conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:21 PM
1

level of risk There is a level of risk associated with everything. Im pointing out the double standard. Explain to me the difference between "Women shouldn't party because they might be the victim of a rape" And "Men shouldn't party because they might be the victim of a false rape accusation"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:27 PM
3

I am dubious to the accuracy of those statistics https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf 14 peer studies are cited in the references. Do you have a better way of gauging truth than peer reviewed studies? the utilitarian perspective is flawed because it looks at the numbers and not the affect. Would anecdotes help? My personal stories. - friends pedo uncle 0 charges for him despite overwhelming evidence. Lifetime of therapy and trauma for her - pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:16 PM
0

most are indeterminate Exactly! That's the point of this post. X% of rapes are false accusations, Y% are indeterminate, and Z% of rapes go unreported. What do those numbers need to be to justify a society that doesn't believe a woman when she says she was raped? At Minimum, 90% of women are not making a false accusation. 66% of women are scared to report their rape Less than 30% of reported rapes end in conviction. For a crime that doesn't have evidence, we know the numbers say that we should in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:06 PM
6

By reporting it stolen, did your community shame you and harass you? It's easy to "do your little part" when there aren't consequences. Meanwhile reporting a rape has massive consequences for the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:51 PM
-1

how can you come to the conclusion they are actual rapes People smarter than you or I have ways of determining sexual assault numbers. You can extrapolate survey results and medical data to see the discrepancy between reported publicly vs reality. does your utilitarian outlook or stats account for things like that. See my last paragraph in that response. False accusations ARE are serious issue that ruin lives. I am pointing out that the massive discrepancy in the numbers. Even taking the high en…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:49 PM
3

These are horrible anecdotes. Most rapes go unreported because women know that they won't be believed, they won't see justice, and they will be the victim of ridicule. Between 2-8% of rape accusations are false. 63% of rapes aren't reported. I'm simplifying the math here, but In the US, there are about 100,000 reported rapes, or 300,000 rapes total. Which means 8,000 men are the victims of false rape reports at the high end. In your view, each year, 8,000 men's lives are destroyed is more import…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:53 PM
3

Fair enough. Haha. If you left your keys in the car, should the court system or the public think that the car thief shouldn't face consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:16 PM
2

Thank you for the responses. how do you pass out drunk by accident? You know how much you drank I am assuming you live in a culture where people don't drink. Often times many people don't know how much they are drinking. Punch bowls don't come with labels. That beer that was handed to you might be 6% instead of the 4% you think it is. Etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:12 PM
4

there are plenty of women who've had drunk sex with men, only to regret it the next day and claim that they were raped Please, show me numbers. What percent of rape accusations are covering up for regrettable sex? What would that percentage need to be to justify not believing a victim? we should believe the girl no matter what Outside the law, we should believe a person was a victim of a crime when they says they were the victim of a crime. For other crimes we believe the victim. When someone is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:56 PM
4

Dang. I'm going to come at this out of a place of good faith. Do you think rape is a crime? If you think men should be allowed to rape women, then we need to roll the debate back. Do you blame victims of other crimes? Do you think it's possible to do everything right, and still be the victim of a crime? In this very specific scenario, do you think it's possible to pass out drunk and not have meant to? Like, do humans who are partying get drunker than they mean to? If the women got drunk on purpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:48 PM
1

Thank you for pointing that out. Definitely misread that. I'll change my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:38 PM
1

But when reporting a burglary, do the cops spend hours asking you "why did you buy the PS5 if you didn't want it stolen?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:26 PM
8

it's called being smart That doesn't answer my question, would you not drive because you could be killed by a reckless driver? Would you not buy yourself something nice because it could be stolen? Why are those situations different than passing out drunk? Do you think, as a society, we should blame the victim who got too drunk or the person who used their lifeless body to orgasm? Let's back up, do you think rape should be a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:22 PM
9

Do you understand why a woman wouldn't go to the police? Small chance of any justice being served, 100% chance of harassment and being blamed for being the victim of a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:14 PM
0

I edited the comment to include "naturally". You are right. That does change the context of the quote. My bad. Let me also rephrase my question, if the numbers say that an accusation is true, why shouldn't women believe the accusation is true? Especially outside the court room.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:05 PM
11

For other crimes, do you think that maybe someone shouldn't have a PS5 if their house got broken into? Do you think that maybe someone shouldn't drive unless they wanted to be killed by a drunk driver? Do you think that maybe a women shouldn't live her life, or or do you think that maybe men shouldn't use lifeless bodies to orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:57 AM
8

naturally women get extremely emotional when it comes to rape so they will lead to guilty by default Less than 6% of rapist even see the inside of a jail. Even if a police report is made it's 23%. 1 in 6 women have been raped Between 2-10% Do you think it's being emotional or just knowing the facts or line up to believe the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:39 AM
10

Even if someone files a police report, there is only a 50% that the person is even arrested, let alone convicted. Filing a police report means a person WILL be harassed. If you got mugged by a friend, a knew that the chance of being harassed is 100%, whether by cops or the public, would you IMMEDIATELY go to the police
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:19 AM
15

What type of evidence would you deem as irrefutable? For example, if a frat guy takes advantage of a passed out girl with no witnesses and claims it was consensual. How do you prove "he said she said"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:14 AM
–

dependent on men just through daddy government So, in your view, women should sleep with people in the military because they are dependent on them for protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:15 PM
2

Why do some people like curvy women and other people link skinny women? Why do some people want a partner that goes on hikes while other people never want to leave the house? Why do some people like boobs and other ass? Why do some people want a 'partner' they can manipulate and abuse while others want a real partner? High value to me is gonna be different than high value to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:47 PM
1

I dislike the term "Highest value" because we all value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:17 PM
4

My single friends in their 30s have SOO much success. And they aren't lookers either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:09 PM
–

I was an incel, I'm now happily married and a total feminist. Rehabilitation is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:30 PM
5

thinking the brains isn't functionally adult until 25 That's a fact, not a thought. And people delaying having babies is more for economic reasons than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:04 PM
3

If you don't want to bother your current social group, expand it. Have you tried taking a pottery class? Or going to an art show? Or joining a book club? Or going to the 1000's of other spaces women inhabit when they aren't at a bar or gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:51 PM
3

I'm 5'7, overweight. Just asked her why she asked me out and she said 1) my first message to her wasn't asking for sex 2) I seemed nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:21 PM
7

My wife asked me on the first date. So at least 1
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:24 PM
1

She isn't really saying they aren't different. She is saying that the excuse that they are different is used to excuse hypocrisy, and that people only find it valid when it's used to excuse male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:20 PM
3

How do you know a product is bad when there are no reviews and you haven't tried it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:43 PM
4

First, so I can understand how far right you are: should we eliminate public schools, the army, roads, etc? she isn't entitled to other people's labor Nobody creates their wealth from scratch. Everybody needed other people. she received any sort of benefit Are you grateful for the benefits your receive? Have you written people in your area thank you notes thanking them for paying taxes for the roads YOU drive on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:39 PM
3

My guess is that you don't live in the South. Off the top of my head I know 3 men who left who weren't blamed. Shitty stuff like "the church says that men are never at fault". A woman marries a man, has a kid, and gets left, and you think she should be thankful when Tennessee or Alabama cuts funding for food stamps to give tax breaks to the wealthy? It's in YOUR benefit that her kid eats food and doesn't need to rob your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:11 PM
14

So a man is bad, a woman dates the man and gets pregnant, the woman is at fault when the bad man leaves? Not the man, who is bad? That makes no sense. Using your "product" analogy. A company creates a product that hurts people. And by your logic, that company isn't the problem but the person buying it is? How was the person buying the product supposed to know it was going to hurt them? Humans don't have Amazon reviews
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:06 PM
2

So you aren't getting taxed for the men that left them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:01 PM
6

of choices A 18 year old girl was groomed by the church for years that her only purpose is to have babies. Living in the South, she has no real access to birth control or sex ed. How many choices did she really get to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:41 PM
3

several choices in a row does a 17 year old girl in middle of nowhere Alabama has access to birth control or abortion? Or even access to proper sex Ed? Or did she even make the choice when everything around her has said that her only purpose in life is to make babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:29 PM
1

Obviously you don't live in the South. Do you think a 17 year old girl in Bible thumping middle of nowhere has access to these?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:22 PM
2

as close to truth as you're going to get An in-depth sample size of 1, with a limited view, is going to be less reliable than a sample size of 10,000. there's only so much you can learn about dating dynamics through research Is there? Through research you can learn what dating is like for hot men, ugly men, hot women, ugly women, people of different races. Meanwhile, through personal experience, you can learn what is the truth for your narrow demographic, and only if you get a lot of experience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:40 PM
2

So your person experience is a better indication of truth than peer reviewed studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:38 AM
3

So your personal experience is a better indication of truth than peer reviewed studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:36 AM
5

men and women don't care about the same things Do you think that is biological? Are insults due to what people care about or what society tells them to care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:25 PM
–

massively delusional If a 40 year old woman was as impressed by a dirty studio apartment as an 18 year old girl is, and vice versa, do you think lonely men desperate for affection wouldn't hit on 40 year old women more?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:43 PM
3

Worked on seeing the good in myself and raising my self esteem. I might not be able to get laid. But I'm smart, could get good grades, good at super smash brothers, had good friends, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:52 PM
1

Me! In college I would have been considered an incel. My junior year I moved in with some friends and realized that I had more fun getting high and playing Catan instead of getting rejected at frat parties. Was able to work on myself for a bit After a year I was in the right mental space to start online dating and not to blame girls when I got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:55 PM
1

Hmm. Is that how science and peer review works? One single study that's wrong and we can throw out Einstein? You can debate the veracity of the studies and numbers, but they are still better than anecdotes. There is no better method than peer review
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:52 AM
1

How else would you define truth if not through peer review?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:43 AM
2

false dichotomy I'll change my question: Do you think the reason famous debaters are mostly men is due to: A) women are inferior B) systemic sexism C) women are different If the answer is C. Then would you agree with the statement: "women are different in a way that makes them worse at debating/rationalizing"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:51 PM
7

There we go!! Someone with experience, and therefore some authority, added nuance to my position to change my mind. How an actual online debate should go. This applied to other CMV questions: I hear your view, but there are other issues you haven't considered yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:25 PM
7

there is a reason great debaters are mostly men A perfect example. Please, show me the data. Let's assume you find the data to support that most well known debaters are men. Do you think that is due to: A) women are inferior to men in some way B) systemic sexist practices that have pushed women away from debating if you want to learn gender dynamics just go outside and see Do you think a night at a bar is more representative of gender dynamics than a 10 year longitudinal study that one might rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:02 PM
1

Haha. Let's break this down Your argument: So you can see why there is only 2 things that make a female human special; virginity and processes related to the ability to produce life. Anything else is because they are humans, not females. Your argument is overly vague because anything I bring up that gives women value, like writing good code, can be attributed to them being human. I could say women are leaders and you say that's humans, not women. I could say women are inventors, and you say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:43 PM
1

By your logic, virginity isn't special because that's part of being human. Twisting definitions isn't a good debate tactic because it means you don't actually say anything. You are essentially saying "the only thing special about women is that they are women", and then throwing virginity on top of that to be edgy hoping no one realizes. And also not applying it to men. Similar flawed logic: "The only thing special about men is their Y chromosome and their height. Everything else is just being hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:26 PM
1

So women do have value outside their virginity? It's almost like valuing a woman for her human traits makes her human.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:06 PM
1

the only thing special a woman has is her virginity and ability to make babies Hmm. Weird. Given that many women on my team at work write great code.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:09 PM
–

people aren't so different that broad statements can't be made about them in some capacity Agreed. But those statements should have numbers. I'm making the following numbers up, but what is going to lead to a better debate and less bickering: 1) Women hate to be treated the way they treat the average man 2) 38% of women say that is wrong to reject them, while admitting they reject men. What is the cause of this double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:12 PM
2

feminist have been fighting against men's standards Sort of. But is it wrong for an oppressed group of people to fight against being oppressed? much to the chagrin of men I'm a man. I'm a feminist. 22% of men are openly feminist and 40% of men say the term feminist at least somewhat describes them. shaming men into having no standards=men accepting their high body counts Haha. You are allowed to have standards. Everyone can have preference. It's just being aware of why we have the preferences we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:22 PM
0

even the female chief Still doesn't detract that the society valued having sex with multiple partners as a whole. it has shown that most cultures seem to value the same things Nope. The shift to a global culture shows the extent of colonialism, not what people value. You can't using the violent genocide of cultures as evidence that the people wanted to choose western values. women value men for height Once again, not all cultures do this. You definitely could argue most cultures do, and then use…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:43 PM
–

People are so different that any statement as vague as "women hate to be treated as they treat the average man" is hard to truly debate. Some women treat men badly, some women treat men well, some men treat women badly, some men treat women well. Negative experiences stick out in our mind more than positive ones. There are of course assholes of both genders, so I'm not saying you haven't had bad experiences, but a rejection is going to be much more salient in your mind than all the times a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:02 PM
2

Took 2 mins. Many Polynesian cultures before Christianity. And a second source Polynesia demonstrates a sex positive attitude, meaning sexuality is expressed in a positive, open manner and is generally encouraged; there is no shame or guilt shown regarding sex Which is also besides my point since I was specifically asking aesthetically?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:38 PM
2

aesthetically How do you explain that different cultures find different things "hot" if it's biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:29 PM
–

No. It's because the majority of men and women against abortions have been fed misinformation and propaganda their whole lives on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:07 PM
7

Make sure you are appreciating them how they want to be appreciated. My wife's love language is acts of service. Filling up her water bottle before bed and 5mins of back scratches goes a long way
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:06 PM
-2

when you have to completely change the original statement It's called hyperbole. In the same way that saying "I hate Mondays" doesn't normally mean "I hate Mondays" but rather means "I hate having to go to work". women are worthless hoes I just mean I dislike toxic femininity the historical power dynamics are the same. an extreme example. Imagine a Jewish person saying "I hate Germans" and a German person saying "I hate Jews". Both cases aren't ideal, but you could see how one is less offensive …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:17 PM
6

Yup! And if that happens I need to choose different grass to touch. Or it was an off day. If you live in a city, even a small one, there are hundreds of communities to try. The issue is when people stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:45 PM
10

And that's why you need to find places where people interact. Chess, DnD, magic the gathering, trivia nights, board game nights. All places where you can exercise that social muscle. Where some level of communication around a shared activity happens. If people aren't social at the chess club, I'll need to remember that 1) they are probably as shy as I am and to not take it personally 2) maybe I need to find a different activity 3) I should be proud of myself for trying it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:33 PM
19

Saying "touch grass" doesn't always mean "touch grass". It's means to get out of your comfort zone and have more social interaction with people who might be different from you. I have HUGE social anxiety. My "touch grass" goal is to go to a chess club meet up in my city.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:24 PM
-2

There is a between hating men, and saying you hate men. Most women, when they say they hate men, mean they hate toxic masculinity, which is understandable. Toxic masculinity often, if not always, has some aspect that views women as slightly less. True hatred of men is exceedingly rare. I have met several women who were misandrist. Most of them were lesbian I bet most of those women have dozens of personal stories of trauma inflicted on them by men. Doesn't excuse hatred, but makes it more unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:22 PM
28

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ this has the data you are looking for 12% meet online 32% meet through friends or family 18% through work 17% through school 5% at church 8% at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:29 PM
2

As real human, I have a formula that I use. It's very human. height/(ratio of eye brow symmetry+number of books read)3 * the number of star wars facts they can list within 30 seconds. But actually, you can't put people into numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:18 PM
20

zero recourse for meeting women outside of organic/chance encounters with their limited network expand your network. My wife took one of my friends to her pottery class so he could meet women. Join a book club. A co-ed sports league. If you don't meet a woman there, you could make friends who know single women. I'm insanely introvert so I get how scary it is to get outside your network.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:11 PM
–

Why is it delusional to not want to be harassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:28 PM
–

This woman is talking about attracting men that she too would like to sleep with. Just pointing out that she gets hundreds of replies from people she isn't attracted too, and every guy complaining could also have hundreds of replies from people they aren't attracted too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:00 PM
–

An average guy could get hundreds. Just post "looking for random strange man to degrade me" and you could be flooded with messages too. Men are dying of thirst in the desert. Women are dying of thirst in the ocean. Just because there is water doesn't make it drinkable
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:50 PM
–

Is a woman allowed to be a human and want sex? If yes, then why isn't she allowed to state that she wants sex without being harassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:59 PM
–

so "old men" is not an argument. Fine, if you want to move the goalpost. Post online that you are looking for men your age to degrade you. I'm sure you'll find attention. Men have a higher chance of getting physically assaulted I'm very interested if you could provide a source. I won't even ask for it to be a peer reviewed source so I can lower the bar Just wondering, do you think there is a correlation between your feelings that you aren't getting sex and your views that women are whiny because…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:54 PM
–

women claiming rape after a night of drunken sex What do you think is more common, a woman claiming rape after regretting sex, or a woman not reporting the crime knowing the backlash she'll face? OP is looking for a FWB. So, in essence, she is objectifying herself Thus the issue OP is talking about. If people think that a woman who wants sex isn't a human, and therefore doesn't deserve to feel safe, then more woman won't have sex. Why would she give men a chance for sex when she knows that even …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:23 PM
–

that stat is false I provided a source. I can provide hundreds of others. But I don't think facts will convince you. Out of curiosity, what percentage percentage of women do you think have faced some amount of sexual violence? And what percentage do you think justifies your views? still better than being sexually worthless 1) You aren't. If you want sexual attention, just post online that you are looking for dirty old men to degrade you. I'm sure you'll find people interesting. 2) saying "my pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:13 PM
–

is not truly an issue The issue is not feeling safe. one in six woman are the victims of sexual violence in some form. That is a reality that many woman face. Being messaged "hey slut" is a reminder than thousands and thousands of men don't view them as people, but as sex objects. they are beyond spoiled A continuation of the issue. The response to someone saying "I don't feel safe" shouldn't be "you are beyond spoiled".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:49 PM
–

.1% of men, messaging hundreds of women "hey slut", would still mean that a woman gets dozens and dozens of such messages. Weird creeps, making a lot of woman feel unsafe, still means woman feel unsafe. Which is why it's important to call out creeps. Also, you don't know if your friends might be creeps online. I have known plenty of people who seemed normal, but said awful stuff online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:10 PM
–

why is option 3 better Because option 3 is better because it's showing female agency. should female designers "prove" that they were in the mood of creating a hot-ass character No. But the "mood" of the artist is normally demonstrated throughout the rest of the media. Is the character in a bikini a full 3 dimensional character with relatable motivation? Why is the character in a bikini. Etc... For example, one of the incest sex scenes in House of the Dragon was directed by a female director and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:17 PM
–

It comes down to why the woman was drawn sexy. Which of these scenarios do you think is most common in gaming: A man animated a sexy character to appeal to the male gaze A woman animated a sexy character to appeal to the male gaze A woman animated a sexy character because she genuinely wanted that character to fight in a bikini. Not saying the third option doesn't happen. However you'd be naive if you think options 1 and 2 aren't the most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:53 PM
–

even sexy one are created by women sometimes Aloy, Ellie, Abby. There are many female characters in video games who were not drawn to appeal to the male gaze; and there was major fan backlash. Saying "look, a female animated a character sexy", when they are monetarily incentivized to do so, doesn't mean that a character wearing a chainmail bikini isn't sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:12 PM
0

Rule 1- don't be stupid Rule 2- look at rule 1 Good rules for dating and life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:39 PM
9

Top 50% assumes that everyone wants the same thing. I'm 5'7. Definitely in the bottom 50% for height. But my wife loves a short king. My wife isn't skinny. Definitely in the bottom 50%. But I LOVE that. I'm okay at chess. In the top 15%. An extrovert partner would probably get annoyed that I'd rather sit at home and play chess than go to a concert. Flaws and strengths are in the eye of the beholder
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:19 PM
8

would you feel like you weren't enough for your partner My penis doesn't vibrate on her clit. Technology has only cum so far. But jokes aside, sex toys are awesome. 1) Sex in a long term relationship needs some spice. And if after years of marriage, taking on debt, living life together, you fee threatened by toy, then its your own insecurities. 2) many women need a lot of clitoral stimulation to cum. 3) many women want to "rub a quick one out" same way men do. Scheduling sex can be tricky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:31 AM
1

Hobbies! Take a local pottery class with no expectations of finding a woman. Just to make friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:30 PM
1

to make it look like women are oppressed Yeah. Nothing screams “women aren’t oppressed” like forcing them to carry rape babies.
/r/MensRights03/05/22 12:48 PM
0

just found this subreddit. wtf. women have been oppressed for thousands of years and you guys are whining about fake statistics.
/r/MensRights06/09/14 04:10 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter