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Yes, there are many variables. If she makes you wait longer than some other guy, it is possible that she still desires you more. Could be other reasons. But in a world of uncertainity, unless you have good reasons to believe otherwise, one should go with the most likely. But what is the most probable variable? The amount of pure lust she feels towards him. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:09 PM
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Ah, okey right, you specifically didn't say that. ( A lot of Redpiller claim tough to) Well, if you define "getting attention" as a cascade of women throwing themselves at those guys for hot passionate sex than no, if you define it as that about once every 1-3 years a women who finds him lukewarm sexually attractive "gives him a chance" than yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:17 PM
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"Attention from women" doesen't mean that a bunch of 21 Year old throm themselves with spread legs onto thos BB-Guys, it more means (realistically) that some already themselves bit older women might consider "settling" for them. The later is the more realistic thing that happens, the former a Redpill Revenge-Fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:56 AM
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Because the average guy who finds himself in A BB-Type Relationship Dynamic has by definition almost no other options and is sufficently broken down by years of loneliness, rejection and desexualization. And contrary to some Redpiller more extreme claims of girl throwing themselves at stable, somewhat boring Accountant-Types as soon as the late 20s/early 30s begin, the reality is a bit more nunaced, where the those former Forever-Alone Types get maybe a bit more interest from older girls, in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:54 AM
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PSA: In theory the word "neurodivergent" means all kind of neurodivergence including stuff like BPD, in practice it is used for the Asperger/Autism variant and I will use it as such. ​ I don't like the terms 'neurodivergent' and 'neurotypical', but I'll use them here for ease of communication. The Nerd-Wamb Ditchtomy is another way of looking at it. ​ I do not think such men lack self-awareness entirely. They tend to know they are neurodivergent, and how unattractive it can be. The one on PPD? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:18 AM
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80/20 is both a Red- and a Blackpill Concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:23 PM
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Well, alot of the things men complain about where not so much explicit, but rather implicit. Or not being *directly* told to you, but overheard, for example: "No, she hasn't sex with him because he is good looking and popular, she is just being manipulated by him" (Despite the fact that those same girls where invincible towards "manipulation" from ugly nerds, or demonstrated a lot of social saviness when it came to bullying other in plausibe-deniabilty ways.) ​ Or told in a reverse way: E. g. "I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:11 PM
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"When young people date they mostly just care about attractiveness, but when older people settle down and want to marry marry things like career success and financial stability are more important." seems like a pretty mundane observation about human relationships. Well, this is incomplete... My "Steelman" of AF/BB would be something like this: "Overall, the real driving force behind the complaint is that BBs feel that even when women choose them, the extent to which there is real sexual enthusia…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:16 PM
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The even better option - learn how to be happy being single! This is admittedly harder for males than females and need also more political backing (e. g. legalized prostitution), but if you are happy being alone you don't really "have to" wife up single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:42 PM
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Also, I can't get over how fugly that artwork is lol. This is exactly the kind of guy the type of women who read vice and life in big, progressive city find hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:00 PM
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The most attractive women by an large like masculine men. All of Thylane Blondeau's Boyfriends and Ex-Boyfriends are the definition of a long-haired Prettyboy, Leni Klum is with a more feminine looking guy and Amber Heard (was) with John Depp. And just look at Margot Robbie's Boyfriend. Would you see him in the street and think to yourself: "Wow, what a masculine looking fella"?? No, the most attractive women like the Alain Delon/Young Dicaprio Style of fem/masc mixxed with a slight fem bend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:39 PM
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But women still have their soft power in the private sphere, whereas male advantages in that domain are declining in value. So overall, women seem to have an edge now. Not only overall, what men find is "unfair" is that women can use their soft power to gain more hard power and then have both of those, e. g. a women "abusing" (I really don't like the word, but I can't articulate it better rn), the fact that her partner is lonely and has not many other options and negotiate a "my money my money -…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:13 PM
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That is essentially what Chadfishing was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:57 PM
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I am with you. I really like this sub, but some people on here are just really nasty. Back in another thread there was some guy making points in favour of making fun of and bullying, old, single women who can't find a man. Shaking my head. This one here is actually worse because it's not just one guy, but rather many people who seem to relish in making fun of other people :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:14 PM
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"The fact that this is not a dealbreaker to you is a dealbreaker to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:46 PM
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Also male variability combined with womens attraction towards men beeing more polarized can make things really unbalanced, with negative consequences for all genders at all leagues, except high-status men and mid-status women which are the great winners of all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:32 AM
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Disclaimer: I am neither an autist nor have aspergers, but I am definitly on the spectrum. People are neither either Rainman or Prince Machiavelli, often its just a continium and how much on each side of the bell curve you are. The Nerd-Wamb ditchtomy is one useful was of looking at things. I will have to add that it's a myth that people "On the spectrum" are unable to learn social skills, it's just that we are slower and can't learn them as good by intuition, but by explicit learning. While as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:41 AM
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Yes, AF/BB (in the light form) exists (in the sense that a large minority of women engage in this), but this doesn't mean that there is zero attraction to the betabux, nor that it is not, in most cases a win-win deal. You think in this day and age women really would go into relationships with men they don't find attractive at all? No, if you are beeing a BetaBux, there is at least some attraction and lust on the part of her towards you and you are in quality and SMV/RMV value leagues above an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:52 AM
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If beeing born in the Top-50% of my Gender Status-Wise than a Man, if in the bottom 50%; then a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:24 AM
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Meanwhile, a sort of wall is being created for men as more and more women in their 40s, maybe divroced once, have decided to never have a serious LTR with a man again, certainly not remarry. This observation is both 1)intuitive and probably accurate AND 2) really depressing to think about. The loneliness epidemic will only get worse and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:46 PM
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What do you mean you are "beeing stuck"? Loose bodyfat while maintaing the muscles and you will fit the female gaze again ​ Every day dude I met is into me but 0 girls. Well, I have bi privilege and now got a line of femboys and twinks to top haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:53 PM
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It is well known that men prefer more musculature than women do. But that is right now. It is hard to say how much that will change in the future. Furthermore, women have developed a taste for things like abs, and it is growing. You think so? I think the taste evolves goes more into the 10% Bodyfat + Calishtenics E-Boy Physique. (Or does it evolve there? Was it alway there and now women finally have the freedom to reveal in what they like? Was the more muscular Arnold Schwarzenegger Prototype ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:35 PM
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Not *just* maintaing a strict diet, but in combination with calisthetics you will fit the female gaze much, much better than "pumped up", and it will cost you much less effort, time and money than running into the gym 4x times a week. (That beeing said, ofc you shouldn't optimise your life around fitting the female gaze, if you feel better with more muscles, do the gym stuff, it is *better* than a couchpotato skinnyfat or dadbod kind of body, though *a bit* worse than a 10% Bodyfat Calisthetics …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:20 PM
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It barely registers.The parts leading up to it are most of the fun Huh? For me it is the exact opposite and I thought it was the same for every male to?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:21 PM
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Of course variation exists, but generally speaking, women don't care about muscles that much. Men frequently overrate 1)how much women care about muscles and 2) how much muscle mass is attractive to women. https://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/the-ideal-male-physique-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be/ Here for example is a study which showed that Men thought women rated bodybuilder physiques the most attractive, while in reality women found lean, athletic bodys, also called "swimmer physiques" the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:24 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd7FEUCDyuI/?hl=de This is what you get after a few (3-8) years of natty training with average genetics. People with good genetics and a few years more training look only a little better, everyone you see who looks much better than him is very probably on roids, or a very rare (talking about 0,1 %) genetic outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:09 AM
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Yes, mostly but not only young working and low class women. #itscultureallthewaydown
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:52 AM
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The "elevetarboys" on Instagram are 110% resposible for this new trend lol :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 08:52 PM
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Nobody looks at sexual assault, shrugs, and says “boys will be boys.” It’s simply not a thing. “Boys will be boys” means let the boys enjoy what they naturally enjoy, but nobody would ever use that phrase in the context of a boy harming other people. No, just because you dont have seen it, doesen't mean it doesn't exist. I grew up in a rural, working class kind of area and sexual assault, harassement, and violence (when against other men) was frequently excused with "boys beeing boys." It absolu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/22 02:55 PM
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No, I meant "the more masculine guy whom older women prefer" are the Nick Bateman type. Cooper ist just over the top masculine mixed with bad genetics (bald).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:23 PM
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No, I meant "the more masculine guy whom older women prefer" are the Nick Bateman type. Cooper ist just over the top masculine mixed with bad genetics (bald).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:22 PM
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Not every women over 30 has children, childless women actually exist, so he only "has to" date single mother if his market value is to low for a childless women. Then take Nick Batemann.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:11 PM
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Not every women over 30 has children, childless women actually exist, so he only "has to" date single mother if his market value is to low for a childless women. Then take Nick Batemann.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:10 PM
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I don't think so. Yes, as they get older women prefer more masculine guys but Richard Cooper is still over the top. Think more of George Clooney. Why do you think he (Cooper) got found out dating old single mother after old single mother? Richard Cooper optimised his look, consciously or unconsciously, to look like what social inept men think women like, because he gets taken more seriously by those men and can profit (he sells pheromone soap FFS) of their naivety and ineptness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:05 PM
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Given how some guys "looksmax" efforts end in them getting a short haircut, growing a thick beard and getting builtfat rather than a toned swimmers physique, skincare + no beard and medium long hair which average women actually like more I think a subset of men really have trouble understanding the female gaze. Richard Cooper for example looks optimised for beeing a gay top rather than a Chad, but I doubt that either he or his followers "get" that. In the mear future I am actually planning a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:50 PM
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Okey, I disagree with you here but since we are essentialy psychoanalising other peoples subconsciousness I see no way forward. I can only give you my lived experience and I would feel a emotional sense of disgust and unfairness at such a relationship dynamic, even if I could look into her head and be 100% certain she desires me as much as her former partners. But it all depends on the details. At what age is "settling" happen, how is the relationship otherwise etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:20 PM
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Why would you want someone who doesn’t particularly want you? But many say they also are hurt if she is attracted to them, just not as much as her ONS and FWBs as well as she only "settling" for them in older age and not in her peak. So in these cases an emotional sense of unfairness is the only explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:54 PM
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The talk about things like losing her ability to pair bond, while not entirely untrue, is mostly them trying to validate their emotional bias with a logical explanation. YES! I always think the same when I see them arguing like this. But to be fair, you kinda can't fault them as we unfortunately live in a society where 1)you loose social points if you don't articulate your preferences well and 2)they rightly fear that they won't get taken seriously/their choices not respected if they made these …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:01 PM
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Yes, Yes, Yes! Me (a Bi Guy) and almost all of my female Friend agree that: Good facial aesthetics without beard > Good facial aesthetics with beard > Bad facial aesthetics with Beard > Bad facial aesthetics without beard. A beard is only the second best option, a way to enhance an average or slightly above average face, or when you are so ugly that it hides your face to an extent. Looking good without beard is the GOAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:51 PM
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Roughly 50 % Blackpill, 30 % Bluepill and 20 % Redpill. Some of my believes: Agree: Blackpill: I think Looks do matter, and not only just a little but moderately to strongly depending on subculture, that genetics matter and for some non-trivial amount of guys "it never began", that especially young women are very picky (insert a more nuanced 80/20 Rule take here), that Lookism is a thing not only in Dating but also in Friendships and workplace, that media and society gaslights massively about fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:43 PM
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So what is your overall take on what is happening in the SMP today? The biggest thing is definitly, that it is easier beeing single than it was 80 years ago. This benefits almost everyone, but especially women. I don't get why so many conservatives lament the declining rate of marriages and relationships. Per revealed preference, beeing single is to most of those people better than beeing in a relationship, that seems like an obvious win to me. But there are other things going on as well: - A cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:05 AM
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Lol, just read about the concept of "Incel acclerationism". Obviously a not-serious-meant meme, but I wonder if the Incel-problem will grow in the future and if so, by how much and what the consequences will be. Interesting to ponder: https://incels.wiki/w/Incel\_accelerationism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:58 AM
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So my question is, besides this sub, where do these people congregate? I've seen a few channels pop up on youtube like "Tails - Blackpills Clips" and "Wheat Waffles"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:54 AM
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Favorite: In theory Weed, not only because of the effect, but also because of the whole vibe of it, be it the connection to memes like "freedom", "youth", "open-mindedness" and "chill". I also like that there is so much culture around weed, like songs, ranging from Hip-Hop (Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg) to heavy metal (Electric Wizard, Dopesmoker) to movies. In practice, I sadly can't take it anymore as every trip becomes a bad trip. But when I was still able to, it was beautiful. Nowaday, alcohol is my…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:00 PM
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I still think both are bad, but age gap is a bit worse, because in /u/Hermiisk's example its fair trade, because everybody knows what he is giving and getting, even when it still sucks for the man involved. By definiton, him beeing in such a relationship dynamic is better than beeing alone. When people critisise age-gap relationships, its mostly because the younger part doesen't know about how much negotioation power she has and so "sells" herself below market value. An analogy would be a minimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:29 PM
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One way to get more insight would be to find out how they treat their sex-partners after their epiphany compared to before, both sexwise and outside of sex. If they treat their partners better, e. g. more and enthusaistic sex, putting in more effort during dating and not insisting on unilateral financial investments like presents it seems likely, though not 100 % sure that they really learned. But again, not 100% as those could also be explained by other factors, like baby rabies or making enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:35 PM
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I could be wrong on any given point, but I do think that some things are (fairly) universally true. I believe so to. But they need to be better argued than just "well I don't like the aesthetics of unrestricted sociosexuality". ​ But once we decide that everyone has their own truth, well, that's the end of civilization and human goodness, in my opinion. Where did I claim that? Indeed, "everybody has his own thruth" is one of the sentences I hate the most. So where have you read it in my comment.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:25 PM
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Yes, for sure, though I have yet to met one of them, and I've met quite a few already. Another thing I noticed: The average dom women is 30+ years of age. Not many young doms. I think this is probably a mixture of young women beeing dominant but not having the confidence to act it out - and another, not so pretty reason: Them subconciously realising that they get much, much more bargaining power in the dating market by becoming more dominant, since dom women are in such a short supply that for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:15 PM
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Yet you lean into your inborn instincts of social conservatism and conformism all the time, not one week goes by without you insisting they represent some kind of universal truth. ​ and having them are just one of the crosses you bear. Well, thats just like... your opinion man. I ain't no catholic, Utilitarinism is the way to go!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:07 PM
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Sub Man relationships just filter for non-hypergamous women, Not only that, they also filter a lot for queer and other non cis-women, but the effect on (Sub)Men isnt that strong. Yes, more bisexuals and non-cis men are subs than the population average, but for women this is at least 10x-times higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:00 PM
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I dont think its wrong or immoral. For most, Kink isn't aquired through porn, rather they are born with it and feel a deep fullfillment from beeing in "their place" in the relationship or during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:57 PM
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Yeah, I can imagine it not being true. Rather, this type of relationship naturally filters for non-hypergamous women. Not only that, traditional sexy male characteristics like height and charisma matter much, much less for such couplings, to the point of almost irrelevant and get replaced with idiosyncratic preferences like shared niche interests. For Female Sub/Male Dom Dynamics they also matter less than for "Normies", but they are still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:48 PM
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hetero relationships where the man is always the sub do not seem to last as long as where the woman is the sub. I have just a very tiny sample size, as 24/7 Dynamics where the Man is the sub are really, really rare, but they seem to differ not very much lengthwise from reversed power dynamics or "normal" relationships. Edit: I would also add that because the average kinkster has fewer kids and lives a more bohemian lifestyle overall than the average person, Kink Relationships dont last as long a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:42 PM
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Disclaimer: I am not a dogmatic 80/20 believer, but Redpillers/Incels are definitly onto something when they suggest that the average men finds most (~75 %) women sexually attractive while the average women finds only a few "top men" attractive, which could be roughly defined as something like 35% to 15%. But your rebuttal if this were true less than 20% of men would be in long term relationships with women. is bad. You don't need sexual attraction for a LTR; you just need not be disgusted. Fear…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:45 PM
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Where is his proposed relationship dynamic a lose for the man? He describes a myriad of benefits for the man, read his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:44 AM
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Even when it would be in theory a net-positive arrangement, in practive it just goes against male nature and biology, so I dont think this will ever become the norm, just more common. In kink-circles there already exist couples like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:42 AM
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I actually have smiliar thoughts like you about this whole AF/BB thing. That's why when it gets debated over here, I dont know which side to take because I have a fairly nuanced take on that. I agree with TRP that it's happening, I agree with TRP that the BB gets the short end of the stick, but I disagree with TRP that its malicous from the woman in question and I also disagree with TRP that it can't be a loving, win-win relationship. It just feels very unfair to the BB-Man (and in some way it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:35 AM
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As a man, my tastes have also changed a bit. When I was 18, any women 35+ was "old" and I couldn't see them as sexy. Now I am in my mid-20s and I frequently notice mid-40s women I find quite hot, but a few years ago I couldn't "see" them. Not as hot as 20-somethings ofc, but still quite hot. Dont get me wrong, peak then and peak now was still 19-23 but every year I get older, I notice older women more and more. And what I mean by "old" also gets up a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:27 PM
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I largely agree with you that this also factors in, it is like everything else a mix of nature and nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:21 PM
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As in, many thirsty men were willing to fake commitment but just wanted sex. Yes, the 6'4 Quarterback was just a better manipulator and liar than the 5'8 shy nerd, thats why she got "used for sex" by the QB. No way it was because she found the Quarterback sexually attractive, it just so happended that tall and athletic guys were able to trick her and sorta average guys could not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:02 PM
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I have also found that women's sexual drive increases quite a bit, as they get older as well. I don't have studies on this but heard this anecdote often enough that I believe it. What could be possible biological explanation for this? To maximise the chance of offspring before they get infertile? An instinctual response to loosing bargaining power as they get older and have likely one kid already, making partner search harder, so they make up for it with more sex? In the ancestral environment, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 09:56 PM
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Some definitely will. But they won't be a lot and they definitely won't be the best. A lot of them do already now. ​ Not what happens in real life unfortunately. I agree it wouldn't be that much of an issue if that was what happened. But it's not. How do you know? I know a couple of those relationships and yes, while some are definitly shitty, many others are win-win relationships, at least from the outside. What do you think makes you know better than those men that are okey beeing in a BB Rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:52 PM
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But men aren't just gonna quietly spend their youths getting rejected and happily marry some slut that finally decided to settle down. I think mostly they will. Either out of obliviousness (If She CHOOse Me, I WIn!!), out of variabiltiy (some guys really dont care about beeing settled for, I wrote a Post about this) or out of desperation. All this posturing about never ending in a BB-Dynamic is just cheap talk, when those TRPers are old enough and have been deprived of sex and love for to long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:19 PM
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But that would imply a majority of men work mostly or at least a "good" amount in the hopes of attracting women. I don't think this is the case. It may be part of it, but mostly it's done for themselves, be it to have a safety nest, to have a meaning in life, to indulge in their hobbys or just hedonism like good video games and sex workers/porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:04 PM
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Not in our wealthy culture. To much to loose. If anything, political parties will co-opt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:37 PM
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Do you think there is some level of effective male sexlessness that could be dangerous for society? Well I think there is but its really, really hard to say what it would be. Depends on many other factors. Is (good) porn aviable? Good other copes like video games and drugs? How is it rubbed into under the sexless mens noses, how is the culture? In the West already 30%+ of guys are Incels, yet there is no political platform, no party which caters to their demand. Japan is even higher and there st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:14 PM
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I get the confusion 20+ years ago when the myths that had been built up about women's angelic sexuality were being torn down. Oh, I wish, but it very wells isn't that way. You may be part of a filter bubble that you think this way, but these myths are still there. They may be not as prelevalent as 20 Years ago, but look at the Main Subs or look at Media - womens sexuality still beeing so much better, so much rational, so hot for feminist guys. ;) I may also be biased and in a filter bubble as I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:10 PM
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You can still redistribute sex. Find out what factors make some people have more sex than others, than tweak those factors. E. g. subsidise gym memberships, make beauty operations tax deductible, state sponsored flirt lessons etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:07 PM
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Ah, thanks for the correction :) Yes, growing up in a central european middle class filter bubble, then due to work reasons spending your late teens in a "white-trash-lite" rural working class area and then moving with 20 to a large, Scandinavian Big City and connecting with some liberal, artsy vegans will do that to you :D The dating scences couldn't be more different. Yes, there are some universals, e. g. women prefer tall men with high social status and men prefer pretty, feminine faces but o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:54 PM
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I would be *okey* with it, but I am also very sex-positive, liberal and anti-authoritan. I wouldn't brag about it or encourage her, especially if she is that young and doesen't internalise the consequences really, I would have a serious talk with her that this endevadour will likely turn out to be net-negative to her life, but ultimately it is her choice. Is is different if she actually gets really succesfull and makes a lot of money out of it, then I would encourage her further and even help he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:20 PM
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I largely agree with you but I have to nitpick here. ​ I mean that these 50% of men may get sex once in a very blue moon, but will not have a lasting relationship with meaning. And the other 50% of men will not all necessarily be having great relationships with enthusiastic sex partners. There will be some settling there. The last two sentences will only apply to the bottom half of these top 50 %. The Top half, the top 25 % of men in terms of looks and personality* will (and largely do now, esp.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:14 PM
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You are definitly onto something. It is very different to be "settled for" when you had a good and adventorous sexual life before that and you are also "settling". Both of you are on the same page. It is however different when you much weren't sexual succesfull before and then get settled for by a women - the power dynamic is totally different and you would feel like a looser; like women are"allowing" you now to have sex instead of "wanting" to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:50 PM
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AFAIK the different preferences women have depending on their mentrual cycle studies did not replicate. Basically they are afraid of being cheated on at best and cuckolded at worst. And the other guys I posted all have and live a 24/7 Cuckold impregnation fetish or what? Why dont they seem to get mad at women? Why are the reactions to this so wildly different?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:24 PM
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That is not the point of the post...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:11 PM
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Its either 1)looks or 2) some idiosyncratic shit he sees in this women but not in other, i. e. he is a geek and knows that she is a "gamer girl". As a relationship with her would be of tremendous value compared to other girls (there are not many who share his niche interest) he invests/simps more for her. The other thing why he would not simpfor a women but did it for others, and this is the most common reason IMO, is that he simply grew older/more experienced and learned that is doesen't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:46 PM
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I can correctly predict that they are also into a more non-boring lifestyle and aesthetics so we would have a lot of interests and hobbys together, a major component of a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:24 PM
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I am really into skincare myself so I would be absolutely amazed! Sounds like a fun time and as a bonus point, we get more attractive for and to each other!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:22 PM
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Don't you think most women are in relationships with guys they are at least somwhat attracted to? And a women choosing a guy later in life who she wouldn't give the time of her day in her youth doesen't necesserily means she finds him unattractive now, it is a possibility that her prefernes changed. Sexuality is fluid, especially so female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 07:19 PM
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The question now is, why do women, the older they get, the narrower , normified their preferences become. Do their preferences change, or their priorities? Despite me asking this in a very rethorical manner I dont know the answer, yes, probably a mixture of both, but how much of each? I see a lot of teenage girls liking dandy korean men, I rarely see a woman in her late 20s still having that preference. One theory is that you are observing some variant of "Alpha Seed/Beta Need", namely that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:05 PM
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Another good reason and very good pro-body positivity argument I heard is that while many people would find chubby-to fat women attractive enough, beein known to be in relationship with these women/beeing seen with them in public is very low status and thus a lot of possible coupling and relationships aren't happening - to the demise of everyone. Now if you make it either high-status to date this women or send messaging to the public that many men find them attractive really and not just are wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:17 AM
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I kinda agree with you that most men talk like it's a little too easy to be "wife material" for them, but keep in mind things like "All I want is for her not to be obese and to be feminine" come out from TRPers corner and while there is some truth to it that this is the average TRPers type, I think when they say things like this they want to "own" BPers with it, since it is often said in a context in which the discussion is about womens standard and they want to illustrate how unreasonable they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:33 AM
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Also men who missed out on their younger years tend to be stuck on life with this "FOMO" that makes it hard to relate to women their age. They just can't let go their past failures and place the burden on same age women in very unhealthy ways. So I would say I understand both sides, and yeah it sucks. It is unfair to women who have gone through a serie of break ups and really learned some life lessons, and it's also quite unfair to guys who didn't get women at their "prime" so to speak and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:13 PM
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25/M here. I am just writing my view but keep in mind that I am pretty atypical, so take it with a grain of salt. I have high libido, am bisexual, non-monogamous and pretty kinky so I only date women who are also that. The circles I mainly date in are also full of progressive, sex-positive people. Thus, a women waiting longer than a few dates for sex means she is not that much interested in me. However, I also sometimes date in the Mainstream-Dating-Scene and in general it can be said, that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:54 PM
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Given on how in my experience political beliefs correlate extremly well with certain personality traits, attitudes and approaches to life, yes, it is pretty important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:25 PM
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I can't find the specific thread anymore but one time her argument in a discussion about the falling rate of relationships she was saying that this is because the average man don't want to settle down till they are in their thirties since they want to experiment and have fun by fucking a lot of different women every weekend, have FFM Threesomes with their friends and so on... She literally thought an average mans romantic life is spent between FWBs, FFM Threesomes and having a rotation of differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:40 AM
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Since as a man I cant date up for casual sex, yes the women I LTR are all roughly in the same league and get the same treatment. But since women CAN date up for casual sex/FWBs there is a decent chance tjat if you get into a relationship with her she will treat you worse that her casual sex partners, since you have fewer outside options and aren't as hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:19 AM
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As a woman, It's very difficult to at any point have sex with any man who you do not truly love and want. This is an extreme form of a BB relationship dynamic and I don't think it happens really anymore in the developed world where you don't "need" a partner. (For economic reasons). But there exists also a light form of BB where the women is not unattracted to the man, rather she feels rather lukewarm about him and is with him mor for rather pragmatic reasons, like a dad to start a family or emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:35 PM
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Well, of course she doesen't speak for all women. But she is not a mutant nor a weirdo and from the fact that she follows the strategy and recommends it (this quote has a lot of likes on goodreads actually) we can reasonably conclude that at least a minority of women follow this strategy to, just as we can conclude e. g. from one guy expressing his love for arthoes that there are other guys in the world like him with the same preference, this is much more plausible than him beeing a literal one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:29 PM
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“When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. These men exist and, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:34 PM
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Questions over questions. A few loose thoughts: A woman who admits in your face that she is just not that into you, though she doesen't find you unattractive either ala Sheryl Sandbergs infamous quote. On the one hand, she is honest and doesen't bullshit you and you know that she doesen't find you unattractive, since if that would be the case, she wouldn't be with you at all. And Love, companionship and deep conversations are also worth alot, worth more than sex (at least to me). But on the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 07:13 PM
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That doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't have enough lust for you, and maybe that is the best you can reasonably hope for. I agree, but men are humans to and it just feels shitty. The more I think about the AF/BB concept the more I think it represents a kind of "infohazard" for relationship-minded men and late bloomers (like me). Because since beeing even in a BB "lite" type of relationship dynamic (there are gradients of BBs, some worse than others ) is better than beeing alone, most of us wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 09:28 PM
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Because things like a house fire or getting mugged (North European here) are also very low in probability but that doesen't mean you shouldn't worry about them or keep an eye out for them some of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:46 PM
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Yes, most. Like I said, the AF/BB Relationship Dynamic isn't the majority but it sure happens sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:42 PM
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Why exactly would someone not want an attractive husband? The issue is not what women want, it is what they get. Not always and not often, but sometimes a particular women herself really wants a family/marriage but cant snag a guy for this who is both "hot" and a good long-term partner personalitywise, as these are per definition HVM and there are only so many of them in the world. So she has to relax her standard a bit, logically (if she wants a LTR) she relaxes the standards for hotness/sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:33 PM
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Yes we SHOULD engineer things which push against female sexuality (male selectivity isnt that high really), but do you really think this is politically feasible? You have to be more pragmatic and stay inside the overton window. To have a fairer dating market a More practical would be to substitute (I borrow this term from economics 101) the male need for females. Could for example by taking measures to increase male friendships ( to satisfy the need for companionship) and better aviability/cheap…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:46 PM
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Guys need to put themselves in women's shoes. It isn't natural for women to find most men desirable, even for less attractive women. Plenty of guys, at least the more intelligent ones who can take nuanced positions and lurk around places like PPD already agree with this. The conflict adn anger comes more from the "mainstream", who insists that women aren't the picky gender - or more absurd- that the men are actually the picky ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:44 PM
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I've wondered that myself actually too, but how would we go about finding this out? All we can do is sit in our armchairs and spin narratives. It's practically impossible do disentangle todays standards and find out which are just "revealed preferences" and which are inflated. Yes, here on PPD we speculate on many other things, but we have at least a "base" of scientific literature to start from and/or a lot of collected anecdotes. With this question we have neither and I fail to see how we coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:10 PM
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It's not only about the looks department, it is also alot about the different standards she will employ, consciously or unconsciously with the less attractive men, because he has fewer options and thus less negotiation power. This may include for exanple less giving of oral sex, less sex in general which will be less enthusiastic. This is what grinds a lot of gears of Redpillers in the AF/BB debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:48 PM
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I am not a redpiller, but not everything they say is autimatically wrong, sometimes you can find some thruth about gender and relationship dynamics in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 08:58 AM
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Its just a short quote and you can argue about what exactly is communicated, sure. And she doesen't completely debase him, yes. But thing like "The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands." - dont they imply - since he is a good husband - he lacks some "sexy" characteristics? It's like a man chasing thots in his youth then finding a sensible homemaker desirable later on. Now you try to create a symmetry between the genders which doesen't necesserially exist. Yes, people…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:12 PM
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Neither have I, I am talking about the quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:14 AM
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Would a "intelligent thoughtful woman" emasculate her husband publicly like this? Mentioning in a book that your husband isn't that sexy and exciting but excells at housework just shows lack of empathy, stupidness or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:36 AM
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The bluntness and "audacity" of her describing how she doesen't really find her husband that sexy and is with him for more pragmatic reasons in all public makes me wonder if her husband (who I am pretty sure read her book) was just to socially inept to read between the lines and thus didn't catch on about him beeing emasculated like this (but how could she knew for certain that he wouldnt catch on?, seems a pretty high risk to me), or that he knows but really doesen't care - could also be, not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:33 PM
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I always model FDS as some kind of counter-culture/revenge fantasy against some of the excesses of urban working/lower class male culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:14 AM
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Reposting an old comment I made in another thread about this, because I have no real answer to this yet: I agree with you and the others in the thread on a rational level - if you changed, got a better job etc. - of course it makes sense for a women to want to be with you who didn't consider you before. But heres the thing: I just have a bad gut feeling from the thought of it. And one of the most important life lession I learned was that to trust my gut feeling because either a) it might tell yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:59 AM
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Men do the same thing. A popular saying is "Don't turn a hoe into a housewife". Also, there's "Dont play Captain Save-A-Hoe". Men also love gloating about how "Yeah, I'd fuck her but I'd never wife her up!" Dear Lillth, I am a frequent lurker here on PPD since a long time and now I really have to step in, I can't read this defense of you anymore. This is not a good argument because it lacks symetry and doesen't get to the crux of AF/BB. Others pointed it out to you in other threads now at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:11 PM
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I agree with you and the others in the thread on a rational level - if you changed, got a better job etc. - of course it makes sense for a women to want to be with you who didn't consider you before. But heres the thing: I just have a bad gut feeling from the thought of it. And one of the most important life lession I learned was that to trust my gut feeling because either a) it might tell you something which you in a sense "know" but is really hard to articulate or b) is an evolved, inherited e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:35 PM
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I would describe myself as a purplepiller, shades of blue and red depending on in what culture/subculture you are dating. This if for example one thing TRP gets consistently wrong with its "AWALT" concept - they dont get that for example polish rural working class women are attracted to wholly different thing in men that e. g. artsy hipster chicks from Austin. I think the core claims of the RedPill are a good thing to know, especially for the more "nerdy" men, especially if they errr on the side…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:48 PM
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There is also the open questions of how the incel men will behave. Will society become more violent as it had in the past, or does technology change the game enough that we can keep such men under control. I really dont know. On the other hand tech could (and currently does) keep incels or "Loosers" occupied via engaging video games and online communities. A very good thing both for society but also for the incels. Society doesent need to worry so much and incels can actually lead happy lives de…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:16 PM
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So what is your opinion about how a society can balance prioritizing female sexuality and satisfaction while also having a stable and prosperous civilization? I agree with that books authors claim that this can't be done without unfairly going all the way back to the horrors of bevore the "sexual revolution" where most women, through societal und financial pressures and realities where forced to marry men they really weren't attracted to. This is really horrible and I sometimes cant even stomach…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:46 PM
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Where in nature does the female only mate with the top percentage and the male doesn't aggressively mate guard? In almost all hunter-gatherer societies just before agricultural societies took over most of the earth around 10.000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:06 PM
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Well, not in the book I linked you, but in some other Evo-Psych Journals I cant find right now it is established that in "Forager" societys (i. e. the natural human state which we are adapted to) the percentage of "incel" men hovers steadily around 40 %. I thus predict that in most 1st. World Countries ("The West" + North-East-Asia) that as society shed more and more of "agricultural" mores and customs (which greatly oppresed female sexual choice) we will eventually reach that percentage again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:04 PM
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"Yeah, I don't buy her take on pre-agricultural mating. It ignores male choice enforced by superior strength and rape and coercion. It's quite possible that a lot of men were prevented from reproducing not due to female choice but because the stronger men would kill them if they touched any of their women." Wrong. Pre-Agricultural mating (and pre-agricultural "society" in general) was aggresively egilitarian. Yes, sexual inequality was rampant, but it was not the strongest man who mated the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:24 PM
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Not all men, but if you grew up in a sort of "booksmartish middle class" filter bubble you will be, through stories (can be books for young teens, or episodes of certain tv-series or movies aimed at middle class kids and young teens) and through female authority persons like teachers, mothers or the like socialised in a way in which you will believe that what makes women attracted to men is mainly about prosocial behaviour. Sometimes this will be told to you explicitly but more often implicitly …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 12:25 AM
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"The Mating Mind" by Geoffrey Miller
/r/askTRP03/07/17 10:35 AM
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You have to show in the next possible situation that you could or can beat this guy up when he comes to close. Otherwise she will view him always better than you.
/r/askTRP08/03/15 01:12 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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