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Oh gosh you’re right. I’m sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:57 AM
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So you ignored my questions and the entire purpose of my post. As far as I know, those guys prefer more traditional marriages (as do the women in those countries usually) which means the man does all the outside house work and the dangerous stuff, and also makes money, in exchange for “being a child” with responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:54 AM
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So as I’m sure you know, when people use the word exploitation, they generally mean that somebody has been abused or taken advantage of unfairly for personal gain, and there is a victim who cannot do anything about it. This would include things like slave labor, or child labor. It could also include something like a mentally disabled person who could be used sexually. If somebody moves from a poorer country to the West and gets a legal job with a low salary, say at McDonalds, are they being expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:17 PM
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I’m not a passport bro but it seems unfair to throw in the word exploit. They’re opening the options available to them and increasing the amount of people interested in them but it doesn’t mean they are by default looking for a vulnerable slave or something. It seems to me that it’s not all about finding a poor woman, but rather a traditional woman with lower financial requirements from their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:59 PM
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Yes, in terms of having enough money saved and from parents to buy a house, or just a secure job to provide for the future, in addition to her income, which could be comparable to the man’s. But in terms of just dating, there’s usually a ~60/40 split. They don’t rely on you to support their survival and entertainment etc like OP is suggesting. They just want you to have a viable future in terms of being able to buy a house (with the woman’s help too). It’s the same as with Western women but Kore…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:50 PM
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Regardless of everything you just wrote, if you are enraged it’s probably time to go offline for a bit. It’s just not helpful to yourself. I can understand your thoughts, but being enraged about something largely out of your control is no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:40 PM
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It’s funny because in my interpretation of being RP means being more objective and taking the facts as they are. RP helps me see men and women more as animals so I can take out emotion and understand what’s happening. But I agree with you. Many here are just butthurt through their experience in life. They may hve a hint of truth in their posts but they use it as a place to bash women. They disregard women’s experiences a lot more because of their own hurt. Some butthurt women also come here to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:30 PM
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Some women do look better as they mature and their personalities can improve a lot too. Some of them become a lot more chilled and more open-minded. I met my ex when she was in her 30s. I saw pics of her from her 20s and she clearly got better with age. I think she peaked physically in her late 30s. She also looks at least 10 years younger than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:42 AM
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That’s sad to hear. Thank you though. This was quite a few years ago. I’ve healed, learned from the situation, and have avoided toxic women since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:34 AM
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I used to think like this until I dated a woman who became my abuser. I let down all of my defenses because what can a 120lb woman do to me? She used my kindness and weakness against me. She lured me into situations where I would become vulnerable. I was constantly being threatened that she would call the police. She even threatened to claim I had raped her if I tried to leave her. I’m not saying that physical harm from an abuser is trivial by any means, but I certainly would have traded it for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:12 AM
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I didn’t know that Korean women are particularly travel obsessed compared to the rest of the world but it does make sense and line up with my personal experiences. I don’t know if I’ve ever met a Korean woman who doesn’t like to travel and I’ve met thousands. But I think most men love it too so I don’t know if there is a huge gap between the genders, but it might be true. I think that what you’re saying about Korean men is a little bit true but maybe you’re being a bit harsh by saying “backwards…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:02 AM
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I’m glad you mentioned this actually because even though I decided to write about this specifically, I have some doubts myself. The problem is that this seems to differ tremendously for each woman/family so it’s hard to get the truth. Also the complaints of a married woman in her 40s about her mother-in-law might be totally different to a married woman in her late 20s/early 30s, depending on how conservative her husband is and also his family too (also because of the cultural changes by age). On…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:48 AM
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I would just like to add that the 4B movement is only big outside of Korea and is a fringe idea that most Koreans are not aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:30 PM
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Most countries aren’t as extreme as Korea in these regards. All of the jobs are in Seoul and apartments in Seoul are like $1m with a 50% deposit and if your kids are going to have a future you need to spend at least $2,000 per month on private education just so your kid can study from like 8am-10pm. Millennials spent their young life studying and then working non-stop and they’re tired. 70 years ago Korea was one of the poorest countries in the world and now it’s one of the richest. The gap betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:27 PM
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From what I remember, some of the men in here are hostile and the general mood of the sub was to blame everything on women, so there very few women on here. The few women who did visit were only here just to troll men that they saw as enemies and so clearly it wasn’t conducive to having reasonable discussions. I don’t think this is a hateful sub, and I agree with a lot of the content being discussed, but this sub sometimes attracts people who are a little extreme. But it seems like there is a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:05 AM
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I think it probably works on some women, or if the guy is extremely “valuable”, but yeah I generally agree. Or maybe you hit it off with somebody every time you meet in person and then you are aloof when it comes to texting I they might be more tolerant. In my case this mostly happened before meeting and I think women have low tolerance for this. Also I’m in Korea where quite a lot of women think that going 4 hours without a reply from your partner is excessive. Also I do agree with what you say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:00 AM
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I’m really bad at texting sometimes and I can end up ignoring my phone for a while, and the amount of women who got fed up and just blocked me, or cancelled schedules dates, is quite shocking. It’s totally my fault for not being attentive but being aloof definitely doesn’t work on everybody (not that it was a strategy to begin with). Maybe if I were more desirable they would hang in there longer. Not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:55 AM
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I think that you’re right and all of the Funko pop type stuff is partly a result of people generally withdrawing from society and social interactions. People are spending less time and money on others and putting more of it into their home and hobbies. Also grooming and fashion has become way more important to men than in the past. EDIT: I have never been a very active member of this sub, but I am happy to see more women in here engaging in proper discussion. We need more of that from both gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:43 AM
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You just linked me to a 126 page document referencing subreddits I’ve never visited. Many parts of TRP can be toxic but once again the surrounding ideology is not what TRP is for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:28 AM
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Well everybody seems to have their own definition of it. As I’ve already stated, for me it’s just seeing the reality of men and women for what they are without judgement. How men and women behave, what they want etc. I don’t subscribe to those guys calling women trash or bashing women’s preferences. But I don’t have anything to prove to you so you can go ahead and think I’m an incel or whatever you like. Both men and women have their dating issues and habits and I aim to know what they are, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:04 PM
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RP has only helped me with women. Being redpilled just means that you wake up to the facts of life and you can see male and female behavior for what it is. I can better understand what women want and how women behave. All of that other ideology is not part of the RP. I have great relationships with women. I have a better chance of meeting their needs and having them meet my needs too. And I have a better shot at a long-term relationship that lasts because of the RP. Once you see things for what …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:16 PM
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As a man I can agree with this. I’ve done it too when I was in my 20s but now that I’m older and the women I date are older, I tend not to sleep with them unless I want to pursue more, or if it’s clearly just for sex. I feel a sense of responsibility if she’s in her 30s and looking to settle down. Personally I tend to only really make an effort with women who show some level of interest in me first because I hate putting my time and energy into somebody when they might be uninterested, or I migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:35 AM
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Totally the same experience for me too. I’m probably more like top 20% but I have no issues lining up dates. Meeting that many women was fun in my late 20s but it’s a bit burdensome in my 30s. When I came back to the dating game after a 5 year relationship everything has changed due to my age and the age of the people I match with. I also find that some women who are not that attractive reject and ghost me and some of the hotter ones are into me. It’s also confusing because I gained weight and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:47 AM
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My abuser was a woman with borderline. But obviously this type of person is not common and thankfully I now have an education on manipulative women. It was definitely an eye-opener. Of course women have experience with mean girls, but they are probably unlikely to ever witness the crazy behavior of women in a relationship unless they date one or hear it from guy friends. I think it’s just that shitty men are so much more explosive, violent and volatile and as a woman you can be a target of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:10 AM
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I suppose your comment only proves my point and I’m sad that you see the world that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:57 PM
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I think men and women just have different struggles and privileges. There are plenty of people who think women have an easier life and plenty of people who think men have an easy life. I wish the two genders weren’t at each other’s throats and we could all try to make an effort to understand each other’s situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:30 PM
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Yeah this post seems weird to me. Dating apps successfully match people together. It’s up to those people to make a relationship work. I feel like dating apps are designed to get as much money from somebody in a short period of time because they may never come back. I stopped using apps in 2017 because I met a great woman. Sadly it didn’t work out and I got back on the apps a few months ago. I have spent some money on them and I met a ton of women. And it’s only a matter of time before I delete …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:39 AM
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I totally agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:08 PM
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I totally understand you. I came to South Korea 10 years ago (with a British girlfriend at that time) and my reason for traveling was not related to dating. I don’t consider myself a passport bro at all. Since living here I’ve dated mostly Koreans, but some Americans etc too. Although I’m single now, I was with my ex for 5 years and we almost got married. She’s educated, attractive, has a rich mom and even a $1m+ apartment in her name, a decent salary, trilingual, not interested in a Western pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:57 PM
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I’m not replying at you specifically or being critical of you. I mentioned in my post that I’m not saying you behave in the way I described, but maybe I should have said more explicitly that my whole post is not about you. Sorry. I don’t think there is a problem with your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:20 AM
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I think most women really don’t care unless a guy goes out of his way to shit on Western women and rave on about Eastern women, in which case they might criticize him. However I have seen videos of women talking about how these guys are predatory and pathetic etc. But with everything these days I think it’s just a loud minority of people doing this. I guess most women just shrug their shoulders and move onto something more interesting. I think some TRP guys have a fantasy of the women who reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:46 AM
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I don’t think you should do anything. If marriage seems unappealing or not beneficial then it’s fine, you don’t have to get married. And there’s nothing wrong with that. It does seem very much like you’re putting too many guys in the same box. As a man I think probably the majority of men behave how you describe, but there are plenty who don’t and you can make it your goal to find one of them if you wish to. I think that there are more benefits to being in a loving monogamous relationship than n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:03 AM
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As a massive overthinker/overanalyzer, I have tried really hard to have a whatever attitude about the things I say (except for being rude - I try hard not to do that. It really has helped with women because I say more dumb shit than before and if it doesn’t go well I just mentally move on. I’m trying to see all relationships as transient by default and so I can shut my brain down a little and just be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:56 AM
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I agree with this. Also I would say that TRP has woken me up to many facts of life about both genders, but it doesn’t define who I am. OP is right about using red pill for blue pill goals, but why is that necessarily bad? I’m not in the top 5% of guys and so I don’t have models swooning over me, but I’m high enough up there that I’m not worried about finding love and I can regularly go on dates with new women (with the hopefully aim of finding a good enough match for me). TRP works for me. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:49 PM
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It’s wild that people are telling you that your life experience isn’t possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:27 AM
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This is an understandable response, which is why it should be done at birth. That way, there is no accusation of cheating and the father gets his test.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:01 AM
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Agreed. I don’t have an OF account but I watch porn. I’m grateful for the content people put out there. Sex workers are people too, and it can be a good way to make money. It doesn’t mean I would necessarily date a girl with an OF, but I wouldn’t see her as beneath me or berate her for her choices. It’s her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:40 AM
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I agree that calling people damaged goods is disgusting and that most of these men would model themselves is they had the chance. However, I think when they say damaged goods they mean “a no go” or “dealbreaker”, but instead they are using a crass and dehumanizing term. People should stop using it because even though we are talking in the context of dating, it sounds like she’s broken as a human, which is absolutely not true. I would also be wary of an OF past but I could potentially overlook it…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:40 AM
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This is the camp I fall into. For some reason I just don’t care so much about promiscuous pasts. Maybe because I’ve also had my fun too. It’s the public and transactional natures of OF that make a difference. If I met an amazing woman who had OF in the past I would be concerned with future behavior. Could she be satisfied with me? Would she be using me as in a transactional manner? Is she more likely to cheat? Let’s say hypothetically that she would be a great partner, I could overlook the past …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:32 AM
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Sure, I’m not suggesting women don’t have things to hide either. I was just sharing what made myself look more child-like and weak to my ex. I’m sure women have various things they don’t want to share out of fear their partner will be less attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:06 AM
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Yes this is true. It happened to me in my past relationship and it’s something I have to work on in the future. We typically split the chores but I was ok with certain messes for longer periods of time than her, so she saw it as me leaving it for her to do, which was not the case. Additionally I’m an immigrant and my ex is a native speaker so I often asked her to help me out with certain things like calling government offices. I could have done more myself but it would have taken a lot longer an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 11:00 PM
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Vetting women and having standards is fine. If you believe that this double standard makes a woman toxic, then fine, you can feel her out. I personally don’t think this is a good indicator of toxicity, but you do you. The vibe I got when reading the OP was that men should be vetting and rejecting women who have this double standard out of general equality and to stomp out “toxic femininity”. It struck me as a plea for people to right a wrong. Maybe I got it wrong, but that’s the vibe I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:51 PM
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Or you could just swipe right on them if you like them and swipe left if you don’t. Seriously who gives a shit? Overweight women are allowed to like lean men if they choose to. Why is it a problem? Yes it may be double standards, but if both of you match then who cares? Or do you want to throw away potential matches for “the cause”? If you don’t want to date an overweight woman, then don’t. Literally not a problem. Dumb posts like this contribute to giving TRP such a bad rep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:38 PM
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Yes I think most women want to know your IG for this reason. It just shows some extra things about your life and what you care to share with others. I think most people don’t care about having a perfectly curated Instagram and many women might even find that a turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:58 AM
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It’s not you disliking men that’s the issue. It’s the reaction to men disliking women that is. EDIT: I put the wrong gender in my first sentence so I corrected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:53 AM
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Guys in this sub (and in TRP as a whole) tend to talk about things in very black and white terms and they seem to see relationships as transactional. When they say “women do X and men do Y” it sounds as though they are taking away our humanity and seeing everybody as lab subjects. If it’s any consolation, they tend to speak about men in the same way, so it’s not just women. It’s not that I think they’re wrong, but there does seem to be a lack of emotion behind the words. If you discuss things pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:45 AM
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I think it’s fine that you don’t like men. I’m sure you have reasons. I’m also not a fan of many of the guys in the whole red pill scene. But it’s wild how it’s acceptable for you to just dislike us, but if men don’t like women it’s seen as hateful and dangerous it’s very much looked down upon. For somebody to dislike women as a group they are ‘problematic’, and should be dealt with and certainly shouldn’t have a position of power. We can get attacked for even insinuating something negative towa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:32 AM
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Well it’s logical but it’s still a weak move. And sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:07 AM
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Yeah I don’t know what happened. I just saw the word generalization and it triggered some thoughts because usually people complain about it. Even though I replied to you I wasn’t necessarily talking to you. It was me thinking out loud lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:03 AM
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Well to be fair, this isn’t a personal advice sub. We don’t focus on individual situations here, therefore we talk about larger groups of people. And if you talk about larger groups of people and trends, you’re going to generalize. We can talk about how some women don’t care about a man’s height, or how your sister’s friend doesn’t care about height, but what would be the sense in that when the general pattern suggests that most women do? We discuss gender dynamics and concepts that could be app…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:49 AM
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I feel like almost every woman I have met and spoken to about this says height is important. No matter the race/culture. It seems sort of hard-wired into most people. In fact I was on a date last night and the woman told me she used to want guys over a certain height but now they just have to be taller than her. And I don’t agree that they are delusional or unstable. EDIT: I was blocked for this comment, so I am unable to reply. Was I being hateful or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:21 AM
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Are you suggesting that somebody’s belief in social equality should extend to dating preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:42 AM
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Pretty much every addict started out this way though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:17 AM
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I completely get what you mean about having genuine ambition for yourself rather than for the goal of meeting women and I can see why it would be a turn off. Men should be taking care of themselves and improving regardless. But I do think that men are less inclined to take care of themselves and strive for more unless they have people depending on them (I don’t mean in a manipulative way). I believe that men have a sort of innate “call to duty” mechanism inside them somewhere and without that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:35 AM
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That’s a good question and I wish I knew the answer. My guess is that both are true. I think health-related things are more innate. Women seem to avoid danger more than men, are more sensible, and are more attentive to things like injuries, whereas many men avoid the doctor. Men also do dumb things like backflips into pools etc. Things like cleanliness may be more learned. I honestly don’t know why women are more concerned with things like hygiene (at least it appears so). IIRC it’s been proven …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:52 AM
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There’s an old saying that women worry about their future until they get married and men don’t worry about their future until they get married. My dad says he was very lazy until he had me and then he suddenly had the drive to try hard. I wonder if women are trying hard to make a future for themselves and men are just content with basic survival and video games. Men don’t really feel as needed anymore and it’s been drilled into them that men are not important. Women don’t need men. So men feel u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:44 AM
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Yeah I’ve never understood why guys lose their shit over a woman online. It’s definitely unnecessary. Also I have been a gamer my whole life and what you described above is excessive and understandably unattractive for a woman (or anybody).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:38 AM
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Thank you for acknowledging that. I’m personally ok with consenting adults doing whatever they want, but I can’t imagine dating somebody in poverty because it would not be genuine. I care about a genuine connection. I don’t find it inherently exploitative because it could be a win-win, but some guys would absolutely use that to control their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:35 PM
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I moved to South Korea 10 years ago because it’s always been a dream of mine to live abroad. I didn’t expect to stay out here this long, but here we are. I definitely did not come out here so I could date certain kinds of women. In fact, I had a British girlfriend who came out with me at the time. I was also reasonably successful with women before I ever came out here. Since the British ex and I broke up, I dated a ton of people. Mostly local Koreans, but also some expats (I usually describe mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:58 AM
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The people I’ve encountered and spoken to don’t match up with the picture you’ve described but of course they could be exaggerating. I would be interested to learn more about that data. I’m not saying it’s wrong. I am open to persuasion. I do agree that divorce is largely a lose-lose situation and I am sympathetic to stay-at-home moms who are dependent on their husband and would need some kind of support. Of course, taking care of kids is absolutely labor and it puts women in a vulnerable situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 12:19 PM
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You’re just making things up. Who said you have to be feminine and yielding? I have no problem with strong women. I just find your arguments very unreasonable. I also said I would have a problem with a man who speaks in the same way. You even said thank you for being called uncompromising. If that’s a virtue to you then you do you. I don’t know what you’re talking about with teenage women. I don’t hold those views. Plenty of young women are logical and I’m pretty sure the average teenage girl is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 12:11 PM
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Lol disagreeing is fine. I want my ideas to be challenged. The other poster u/toasterchild is also disagreeing with me and she is not abrasive. In fact she brought up a very good point. I would also think the same if a man talked the same way as you do, but I guess when you see life through a “women are oppressed” lens then you’re going to come to that conclusion. You, however, are uncompromising and are belittling men to defend women. If you truly believe that men’s biggest issue is that 10% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:57 AM
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Are you really suggesting that the courts are absolutely fair and that all of the men complaining about the outcomes are just being unreasonable whiners? Yeah it’s funny to call men babies for complaining about things but then it’s misogynistic to do the same to women. Both genders have problems and they are both allowed to discuss them. And then you bring up something extreme like murder to justify women’s complaining. It’s not common for a wife to be killed by her husband, but it’s common for …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:33 AM
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I think you’re being a bit extreme. Most guys don’t want to throw their wife out onto the street, naked and homeless. Why would you assume that? I agree about not being a shit husband, but let’s say that you are a shit husband, the punishment should be to lose the wife, not your wealth. Of course I feel differently about wife beaters etc. What if a wife was leaving because the man gained weight and became unattractive? Then does he deserve to lose it all? And even if you are not a shit husband, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:12 AM
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For me TRP is about learning the truth of how men and women work. I very much love and appreciate women and want a long-term relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:51 AM
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Based on this reply I suspect we have different ideas about struggling means. Are you suggesting that you can have a rotation of fairly attractive women most of the time but you are still struggling because you’re not getting the girls at the top? Cause it sounds like anybody who is not Bruce Wayne is struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 09:18 AM
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I agree that feminism brings up uncomfortable truths for men that many people will refuse to acknowledge, but I don’t see TRP as being born from that fact. I’m not particularly into the scene, so I can only speak for myself, but I think that TRP is a response to men feeling lied to about reality. Of course I’m sure that some people ended up here from “pick-up” stuff, or from being an incel (the original meaning of the word). As somebody who has never been into pick-up artists, or has never been …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:44 AM
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Honestly this post gives off “can’t get a woman” vibes. I’m not saying you can’t, or that you’re even completely wrong, but the things you said are a good example of what were asked of in the title. I get what you’re saying but guys saying things like this are not doing themselves any favors. It’s like you’ve cracked the code and been red pilled and then everything becomes so black and white. Short guys have problems finding women but they still do it. You think men who listen, care and never hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:25 AM
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I think I still have dryness to this day because of that drug after like 15 years. Also this is a fucking weird thread. A woman got acne and she cured it. Is she not allowed to do this?? Should she keep her face looking like this forever? Do you feel you are being fooled by her genetics? I don’t give a shit if my partner used to look like this in the past if she handled it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:41 AM
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Same here. I haven’t engaged in posting until just now. There has been some crazy racism and sexism on this sub and it’s disappointing. I’d never heard of “purge week” until now either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:18 AM
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You shouldn’t have to prove your intentions towards men like that. I understand why you did it, and I used to feel the need to do the same with women, to show that I’m “an ally” or “one of the good ones”. You were kind and respectful in your initial comment and so if somebody wants to call you a misandrist, that’s their problem. On this sub you’ll probably be on the defensive all of the time, which sucks. I don’t know why people can’t be both red/purple pilled and also not be so skeptical and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:47 AM
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What a miserable wet dream of revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:52 AM
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Strange is an understatement. He’s just being rude. The person he’s responding to hasn’t complained at all about dating. She was just answering the question. Now OP is treating her like some kind of failure to prove his point. Maybe she’s happy being single and isn’t putting herself out there for a reason? There are other women out there besides the type you see on FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:26 AM
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Sadly there are many bad actors in the space. It’s also partly a backlash, or a case of the pendulum swinging too far the other way. There are many positives about the manosphere but people can easily find themselves following toxic people. I’m glad that I found the manosphere in my 30s because I can mostly figure out where to draw the line on bullshit or hate, which can’t be said for teenagers who get sucked in. This is the problem when society rejects certain people and stifles certain convers…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:20 AM
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You’re right. And I do sometimes meet people in that way, but I’m just letting you know how many men feel. It doesn’t even mean that it’s necessarily the truth, but this is how many men feel. Even if 9/10 women are perfectly kind and respectable, that remaining 1/10 make everything costly. The same as how the minority of violent men make women cautious around all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:54 AM
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Hitting on people in person means a greater risk of being called a creep and it could bring some real negative consequences. I personally don’t approach new women because it’s been drilled into me that I’m bothering them. And I don’t want to feel like I’m some harasser. I also don’t want to have to build up the courage so that the second I open my mouth I’m met with an instant shield. I’ve asked women for directions before (purposely chose women I am not attracted to) and I’ve been met with utte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 09:42 AM
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I’ve often thought about what you said regarding both genders wanting a date. I thought that both people have to bring something to the table and they both stand to gain something from the interaction, but I feel as though, as a man, it’s more of an audition for a shot to be with somebody. Not only do I have to make sure that I look good and dress well, but I also have to initiate and face rejection, plan everything ahead of time, of course pay, lead the conversation overall, push the boundaries…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:05 PM
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This is a different argument regarding immutable characteristics. It is an issue that women have but it’s not germane to this particular topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:33 PM
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I don’t think he’s saying that. He’s saying it’s like using disposable cups and then complaining about climate change. That’s just one small part of this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:26 PM
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Haha don’t worry. I got what you meant. I mean each to their own I guess. I don’t find pleasure in “trophies”, but the way I see it, those men are limiting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:05 AM
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As a man I’ve never understood the cherry thing and I agree it can be creepy. It feels a bit predatory in a way. Or like you’re aiming for a trophy. I hope I never take anybody’s virginity again unless we happen to be deeply in love. I can’t understand why people find it sexy. I’m into kinky and experienced women so maybe that’s why.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:56 AM
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It’s not the same because you cannot reverse your sexual past. It’s akin to saying that women are permanently damaged goods whilst also sleeping with other women casually, thus creating more “damaged goods” (in the eyes of this kind of man). It’s also just straight up double standards. Of course both genders have double standards though. I’m sure this is a big component of why women detest it. I personally prefer women who have experience, but that’s just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:51 AM
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Yep. I’m just on a quest for knowledge. I have been fairly successful with women and harbor no resentment towards them. I just want to know more about human behavior and redpill knowledge helps me out in that respect. If I know more about the world then I can better look out for myself and my loved ones. Anybody who uses this information to hate or blame women is doing it wrong. Women are doing what is best for them and what they are hardwired & conditioned to do. Men are doing the same. All we …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:17 PM
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OP, this sub is not representative of men out there. The people with the extreme views on here are a relative minority. Most of the people in here are disgruntled in some way and so you’re getting an inaccurate view of men as a whole. Like any community, there can be me useful information and there will be toxic people. Sadly, men don’t have a lot of outlets for their issues and so they end up being pushed out to more niche communities to discuss them. These same communities are full of radicals…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:09 PM
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Yes but I’m referring to outside of this sub. Nature is not given enough credence. I think socializing plays a large role, but for the entire human history women have sought out partners with resources and for only 30-50, if that, years women have had their own resources so that they don’t need any from a man. I believe there’s some hard wiring that doesn’t just disappear and we have to recognize it. This actually means that I don’t blame women for acting how they are wired, or conditioned, to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:06 PM
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Well this is the kind of detail I didn’t want to get into, but I agree with Dave Chappelle’s take on this, which is that a woman should have to right to choose whatever she wants because it’s her body, but the man should have the right to choose if he wants to opt in or out. He can be the official father and be entitled to proper visitation rights and be on the hook for child support stuff, or he can opt out and have no rights or responsibility. Sometimes it’s not the man’s fault. And if this sy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:02 PM
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You may be right, but I think nature plays a much greater role than is discussed out of this sub. I’m not denying nurturing issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:08 PM
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I agree about mental help for the incels. You might also be right about people eventually settling down and marrying, though I do feel a social change is occurring. We’ll see I guess. I can also agree with your other more pressing points about society in general though I’m not sure if we would agree on the causes and solutions to those problems, but that’s off-topic. Yes, relationships overall in society seem to be breaking down and I think both technology and our unforgiving work culture have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:05 AM
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Well I definitely don’t see single mothers as lesser than anybody else and I respect/admire their hard work and dedication to their children, yet also having a child is a dealbreaker for me, so I am in a way contributing to this. Not that I think I am wrong either. It’s not that the women become “damaged” or anything, because I don’t believe that, but the child itself is a barrier to me. As you know, in the past, men used to marry the woman they impregnated as a duty to provide for them both and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:55 AM
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My understanding of his post is that the implication exists in people’s minds, thus stifling debate since it is not explicitly addressed. If OP is hinting that we need intervention then I vehemently disagree with that idea. I don’t know that he is though. A “fair” dating market would be a system where everybody gets a partner, and I don’t even know how that would be implemented but I don’t like it. I don’t think dating has ever been “fair” and it shouldn’t be. Other aspects of society, sure. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:36 AM
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Then maybe don’t impregnate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:17 AM
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As a man I agree with that (for the most part). I think the legal system does punish men way too much and it should be changed, but I think men have a moral obligation to take care of their kid. I would like to add that in many cases, fathers are not allowed near their kids, which is not talked enough about. But absolutely there are too many men who are happy to have sex but abdicate their responsibilities of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:16 AM
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I think this is what OP is trying to address. He wants people to acknowledge that it’s unfair in the current market and that’s it. From what I can tell, he’s not trying to solve anything. You’re right, women are not food stamps. Equality is unimportant in the end because you can’t force people to change. I personally seek the truth and do not judge women for their choices. I believe that they are hard-wired to go for certain things just as men are. I can’t blame them for their desires or standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:03 AM
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Can’t be mad at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:17 AM
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Hey, I'm so sorry for the late reply. I started writing my reply on my laptop and real life got in the way. I have been using reddit on my phone while commuting and I haven't yet revisited this thread. I will try to reply to you properly in full. I know you spent a lot of time replying to me so I feel bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:47 AM
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F&F = Youtubers 'Fresh and Fit'. They are pretty toxic but they have a lot of facts too. I too would be a feminist depending on the definition, so I think that we are on the same page there. I too believe that men and women are more similar than different, but I think that they are significant enough. I do believe in gender traits though. I don't mean that there are traits that men and women 'should' adopt or anything like that. I do think that we naturally have different tendencies (regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:43 AM
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Good question. I’m going to generalize but please understand that I know not all people are alike. I consider myself red pill because: 1. I feel like I grew up being taught a set of beliefs by society that I had a hunch were faulty and I eventually woke up to the fact that it was mostly all BS. 2. I believe in some of the core RP ideas such as hypergamy. I try to see people for their animalistic desires/behavior instead of what society says. I know it sounds weird but I don’t go around each day …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:25 AM
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Yeah I would describe myself as RP but I think a lot of influencers in the space are assholes or fake “alphas”. They make a lot of great points but they make terrible ones too. The problem is that the space has a wide spectrum of beliefs and there are many toxic people who ruin it for others. Some of them lead men down darker paths, which is sad and wouldn’t happen if they weren’t isolated from more mainstream communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:22 AM
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30 is definitely not old and not too late to change your mind. Some people genuinely want to be alone. She’s an adult. She’ll figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:52 AM
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I don’t F&F are good for the manosphere at all. They’re a couple of frauds who invite on Miami ratchet women (whilst pretending they are your average next-door neighbors) and they wait for the opportunity to “put them in their place” so that their audience members can keep up their justice boners. I’m not saying they are wrong about everything, but they are wannabe “alphas” who are the opposite of what they preach. They are not good role models. Aba and Preach called them out for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:43 AM
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I’ve been to a few gay bars and I didn’t try hooking up with any women. I also rejected the offers from men. I just had conversations with people and it was a pretty fun vibe to be honest. It wasn’t my space but I didn’t cause any problems and I didn’t feel unwelcome. I finally felt how women do when you see a guy looking up and down at you and in your mind you’re like “please don’t come over, please don’t come ov…fuck…hello”. I politely declined my offers and they were respectful. A few guys tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:22 AM
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I definitely agree that this is a divisive post and is not any way to act as a bridge a beginning to a conversation. It is inflammatory enough that people who are unaware or unsympathetic to the male side of things will simply not engage with it in a serious manner. But then I’m not sure OP was intending on using it in such a way. I agree that rape should not be minimized but I also agree with the other poster who said that feminists are the main culprits of minimizing rape. I really don’t know …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:03 AM
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I agree with you. But people don’t follow the same guidelines. Whether male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:00 AM
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I don’t think that “anything a woman doesn’t like” equals rape. I think that most men and women would also find that premise absurd. Yet the loud minority of people who do run around spouting this nonsense somehow end up taking center stage. There is a hint of truth to the statement itself. Men feel like the risk might be too great. Look, hypothetically, if one out of every ten women believed that trying to kiss her was rape, wouldn’t you be somewhat nervous about who you try to kiss? And I’m no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:57 AM
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Sadly most of them are not invited to Fox interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:30 AM
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Whilst extreme, there is enough truth in it to resonate with people. Also you could call it stupid but this is how many men truly feel. And I suspect that society at large would probably blame the men for having these opinions rather than question if some women could have contributed to this atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:24 AM
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I’ve never understood the desire for an “unused” woman (not that I even agree the term is applicable). I only want to meet experienced women. Before I met my current partner I often rejected women that i thought were too inexperienced/innocent. So when I hear red pill guys complaining about a woman having her party years I don’t understand the problem. I only understand it in the context of a woman having her fun in her 20s and a man setting down before his fun really starts in his 30s. But I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:38 PM
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This is what I’m experiencing. I love my partner so much and I have always found her attractive. I have no desire to date anybody else but I am sexually attracted to tons of people. I’m of the opinion that it doesn’t matter how beautiful our women are, we always want new ones. I wish this wasn’t the case. And I haven’t acted on my desires either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:28 PM
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I completely agree with you but it’s just a reality we have to face and cannot change. I’m sure there are realities about men that women would hate too. I am lucky that my partner is not like that and it sounds as though you are not like that either. I think it’s good to be aware of these things and to not use this information as hate against the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:24 AM
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I agree with you but I can’t help but feel it’s not the same. Of course not every woman is the same so it’s tough to say. But it’s not exactly uncommon for a woman to be turned off by a guy after he cries. I think men have a much greater tolerance for “weakness” from a woman that the reverse. I have no statistics for that. It’s just what I have observed in life. And I agree with what you said at the end of your post, but yet it happens a lot anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:08 AM
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Well I don’t mean like if I show that I am afraid of heights she will get up and leave. I just feel that there are limits on how much a man can open up about his problems and the amount of failure he can display is very limited. My relationship almost ended when I was in a rut and I let myself go. I had mental issues I had to figure out (discovering I have ADHD) and my sleep and weight were out or control and she just got tired of the negativity. I think she gave me a reasonable chance and I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:51 AM
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As somebody who has become increasingly more red pill over time and is in a happy relationship of 5 years, I don’t view the woman as a prize, but I do view dating as a competition. I’m competing against other men and both myself and the women are trying to find the best fit for each other. I know I’ve never been interested in a trophy wife and I deeply care about my partner’s personality and compatibility. I also recognize that most women most likely care about my looks and personality but that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:23 AM
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Yes of course, but muscle isn’t the issue here. She clearly does a lot or squats and her legs are awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:26 PM
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It’s not about where she works out. It’s about where she stores fat and that’s down to genetics. That’s why she keeps talking about body type. The only thing she can do to improve her overall shape (if she wants to) is to lose body fat and her body will take it from wherever it likes. u/GwenXi, your body type is not represented in the image but you can be attractive with any body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:52 AM
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No, we’re designed so that only the fittest survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:44 AM
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Well I don’t blame them for trying to get the best they can get, but it’s just a reality that not everyone can have the best men who check off a laundry list of requirements. You’re right though, some have been blaming men. I have seen one or two articles telling men to man up, stop playing games and take responsibility for their lives. I would usually agree that it’s good for men to do this, but being lectured about it by people who wouldn’t dare consider women’s choices as a factor and would i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:35 PM
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Not only are women more educated and less interested in a breadwinner, since they tend to date up, they want somebody more educated or earning more money, which is an increasingly smaller pool of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:25 AM
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I was randomly banned from FDS for making a post on r/Cringetopia. I don’t even sub to it and had never even heard of it but it randomly popped up on my feed and it was just a video of a woman cooking steak in an airplane bathroom. A few minutes after posting, I got a message to say I was banned from FDS (didn’t even know I had subbed tbh). The reason was that Cringetopia doesn’t align with FDS’s values. Wtf? It just goes to show the cult-like nature if FDS. As somebody who does not post in Crin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:40 AM
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Having standards and raising them is great, but FDS takes it to a whole new level. It’s arrogant and delusional. I don’t know why your reaction would be to think that men must be against women having standards at all. FDS is mean, snobby and hypocritical and it is probably going to lead women down the wrong path of bitterness and loneliness. That doesn’t mean there are no truths in there, because there are. There is nothing wrong with demanding standards from men, receiving guidance and aiming f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:26 AM
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