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It’s a commercial communication service, owned by shareholders. If you disagree, buy some stock and join a shareholder meeting.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 01:04 PM
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It’s because ‘men’s right activists’ are mostly just angry fat betas. Same way most ‘feminists’ are just fat angry ugly bitches.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 08:21 PM
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Cool. Im a 43 year old man and I’d love to feel up your sweet ass sometime by the way 😍💋 I bet it’s a real peach!! ❤️ plus, you are ok with me doing it. Hot!! I’d probably get an erection while I slid my hand over your cheeks!! 😘
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:00 PM
-4

How would you feel if a large, strong male grabbed your butt?
/r/MensRights09/05/18 07:31 AM
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How big is the chunk and what’s your source?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 06:48 PM
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It’s from the UK. We call women ‘mate’ there too.
/r/MensRights24/04/18 03:30 PM
0

You have provided zero evidence that radical feminists are leading the worldwide feminist movement. The only example you have provided is a localised US policy regarding domestic abuse. ‘Thousands of followers?’ Are you really talking about Twitter?...
/r/MensRights11/03/18 02:02 PM
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Yikes, you are also dreadful at this. We aren’t talking about the laughable ineffectiveness of the men’s rights movement. We are talking about if feminist ‘extremists’ are leading the worldwide movement for feminism. You just pulled out some weird localised policy decision that means nothing in terms of the grand scheme of the movement.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 10:13 AM
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The average feminist woman does not know who these people are, I’m sorry to burst your idea of a titanic struggle of the sexes.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 10:11 AM
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They don’t know the supposed ‘extremists’ even exist because they are doing actual stuff rather than having pointless arguments on twitter. Most feminism happens in the real world and it is no threat to people like you. Get off social media and cleanse your brain dude.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:29 PM
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‘Extreme feminist’ suggests that there is no unity. Otherwise you wouldn’t need to specify ‘extreme’.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:16 PM
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No YOUR analogy is a failure. What does that have to do with the leadership of the feminist movement?
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:13 PM
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So extreme misogynists ARE running the men’s rights movement? Is that what you are saying?
/r/MensRights10/03/18 05:49 PM
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Extremist feminists aren’t leading the feminist ‘movement’ any more than extremist misogynists are leading ‘men’s rights’.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 05:35 PM
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A group is a group however you define it. Making a judgement about a whole group based on the opinions or actions of a minority is exactly what men’s rights folks hate about feminists, yet they do identical stuff towards feminists. It shows very little self awareness.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 05:32 PM
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They aren’t equivalent, no. But branding one group as X based on the behaviour of a small subset of it is wrong against any group. Men’s Rights people do themselves no favours when they do the same stupid shit as the people they criticise. Stop acting like whiny angry victims like the radical feminists you despise.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 03:39 PM
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Isn’t ‘masculinity’ an ideology in the same sense?
/r/MensRights10/03/18 01:52 PM
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You are correct. But that statement is not an argument against my statement.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 01:50 PM
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and then he said feminism is in itself toxic So it follows exactly the logic I laid out. It's an identical falsehood as 'some men rape therefore all men are rapists'. 'Some feminists are toxic therefore feminism is toxic.'
/r/MensRights10/03/18 11:53 AM

some feminists annoy you because they make broad negative statements about all men this makes you make broad negative statements about all feminists Nice logic. Working for a better world there bro.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:46 AM
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Shhh, then they won’t be able to revel in a victim mentality exactly like the feminists they despise.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 11:41 PM
-3

Specifically you are in the Reddit Men’s Rights sub supporting the idea that you filter out anything that upsets you.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 12:49 AM
-4

I don’t understand this weird millennial dialect you are using.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 10:52 PM
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Nope. Lots of what I see daily on all is alt-right. You guys’ victim complex is almost as bad as the feminists’. Have you no balls?
/r/MensRights23/02/18 10:01 PM
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That’s as accurate a characterisation as the one I was referring to.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 10:00 PM
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Yep, the alt-right bs.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 09:01 PM
-4

It’s amazing that suggesting imbalance is wrong means that you are on the opposite side of the balance.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 09:01 PM
-13

I never said that.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 08:56 PM
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You prefer to filter it out so you can just get a cess pool of group think alt-right bs?
/r/MensRights23/02/18 05:26 PM
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I hunk you’ve misinterpreted a statement I’ve made. Where have I said it’s not save to be around immigrants?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 07:13 PM
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Definitely interesting that you were trying to put forward a coherent argument until you realised you were 100% wrong. I guess it’s nice just to stay in a safe space?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 05:11 PM
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Fnaaar grable dunks dunka
/r/MensRights16/10/17 05:00 PM
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Did you have a stroke?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 02:40 PM
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What are your thoughts on Asher's methodology in "A Hypothetical Cohort Model of Human Development?" or the fact that the UN have distanced themselves from the study, not including it in their final report or on their website? What about the fact that Daponte, the co-author of the report says of the interpretation in the article you linked "It's obviously wrong, and a complete misinterpretation of the report," Can you use Google Translate? Do you know what 'fake news' is? https://www.metro.se/ar…
/r/MensRights16/10/17 01:47 PM
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Ah well, have fun in your safe space snowflake!
/r/MensRights16/10/17 09:45 AM
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It’s always sad when people close their minds to debate. It’s a shame you are reinforcing the stereotype of someone on the right. I’m British BTW.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 09:07 AM
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The Austin thing was a joke. Texans make this joke all the time right? I’ve heard it many times.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 08:44 AM
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Ok I get it, scared to have an actual discussion. Shame really.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 08:43 AM
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Are you suggesting Houston and Dallas are as liberal as Stockholm and Malmö?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 08:30 AM
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I still haven’t had a yes yet. Do you want to get into a detailed argument about Swedish rape statistics?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 08:26 AM
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So is that a yes to getting into the Swedish rape statistics argument?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 08:14 AM
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Do you really want to get into the rape statistics argument? Let me know if you do. It's always fun.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 07:38 AM
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Austin isn't Texas lol.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 06:54 AM
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Nope, we have two councillors in a local council authority in a tiny part of Sweden who tried and failed to pass that motion. In which country do you live? We can try to find some bizarre local parties motions and make an argument that this represents your whole culture if you like? Which parts of Sweden have you visited in order to determine that men's clothing rights in Sweden only extend to feminine rather than masculine? When did you visit here?
/r/MensRights16/10/17 06:54 AM
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Tell me about your experience visiting here. I'd be interested in how you think this 'third world' aspect manifests itself in what you saw.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 06:44 AM
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The very fact you don’t see that as ‘fashion’ proves how oppressed you are in your culture.
/r/MensRights16/10/17 06:33 AM
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Fashion forward? Where I work there’s a guy with rainbow coloured hair who wears pink leggings and earrings. I guess part of living under tremendous restrictions from society is that you don’t realise the restrictions exist...
/r/MensRights15/10/17 08:26 PM
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I’m chuckling at the idea that you think an open attitude to men’s clothes means being able to wear an pink dress shirt!! Enjoy your ‘freedom’! :D
/r/MensRights15/10/17 08:09 PM
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I live in Sweden. This isn’t the case. Men are able to express themselves without being shamed by other men. I moved here from the UK where I would get teased by co-workers for simply wearing a pink t shirt. You know what drives the freedom for Swedish men to express themselves? The exact same liberal ideas that drives women to also be more free. You don’t get gender freedom for men unless to extend that gender freedom to everyone.
/r/MensRights15/10/17 05:00 PM
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Vice are an advertising-driven platform aimed at a certain demographic who wants prejudices reinforced. That headline would make them less money. Same goes for any targeted news platform online, on the left or the right. I have no idea why people get so upset about this stuff or Breitbart of whatever.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 06:02 AM
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Fuck off angry neckbeard. I don’t give a fuck what you think. Go die in a hole.
/r/MensRights01/10/17 08:52 PM
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Exactly. It’s trivial to do a google search and find hundreds of comparable stories where a man has sex with minors and the word rape is not used. For example. This kind of post makes the Men’s Right’s movement look as lacking rigorous logic as the tumblr feminists. http://nypost.com/2017/06/16/creepy-yoga-instructor-arrested-for-having-sex-with-teen-girl/
/r/MensRights30/09/17 04:30 PM
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White supremacy specifically and men's rights shouldn't be conflated, but alt-right and general far-right politics and men's rights absolutely can be conflated. What I see here are very strong anti-women and anti-feminism views. These political positions are far-right. It's not an insane assumption to make that people who fight against people trying to stop the oppression of women might also fight against people trying to stop the oppression of other groups, especially as the arguments made here…
/r/MensRights13/08/17 08:53 AM
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I'm a recently divorced father with a kid in Sweden. All the links you provided are in a language I understand but you don't. You have no knowledge of how the legal system works here. And you are trying to use a pasted Wikipedia link in an argument with me! It's hilarious. AND you are still engaging in me despite the fact I told you I am deliberately trolling you... dude just go out and kill some women, get that misogyny out of your system haha.
/r/MensRights05/08/17 03:38 PM
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I live in Sweden. There's none of you. We have a feminist government. It's marvellous.
/r/MensRights05/08/17 02:54 PM
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43 years old. No patience for nutcases like you. Don't read your posts, just pick up on one thing and laugh at it. I go to Men's Rights to troll. I strung you along for a while though, right?
/r/MensRights05/08/17 02:32 PM
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You said women aren't tech CEOs because they make the personal choice to ensure the survival of the human race. Your solution to gender disparity is for the human race not to breed!! You are completely bonkers.
/r/MensRights05/08/17 07:19 AM
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TL:DR. A civilised society will not penalise one gender for increasing its population. That's just fucking basic shit. The rest of your post is garbage.
/r/MensRights04/08/17 09:17 PM
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Let's talk about childcare. Why does bearing children 'put back their career several years'? Sexism is the reason. Why should having kids have any impact on anyone's career? It doesn't here in Sweden because men also get paid childcare benefits so they can take care of the kid while the woman works, women are guaranteed a job by law on return from maternity leave, and state-run childcare starts at the age of one so women can get back to work faster. These things were put in place by something ca…
/r/MensRights04/08/17 07:43 PM
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The well established issues that prevent women from even getting to the point where they are in contention as a CEO. It seems so insane that anyone would deny these things exist. I thought you men's rights nutters were just obsessed with post-divorce maintenance payments.
/r/MensRights04/08/17 05:25 PM
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I'm (obviously) not suggesting the privilege only happens at the CEO interview selection stage. Are you genuinely dumb or just deliberately not understanding basic, well established concepts for the sake of an argument?
/r/MensRights04/08/17 04:45 PM
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It is in many nations including the UK.
/r/MensRights04/08/17 04:26 PM
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Notice I never mentioned hiring. I mentioned CEOs.
/r/MensRights04/08/17 03:53 PM
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You are correct that there are lots of factors. No tool is perfect. You start with the low hanging fruit. The broadest factors. That happens to be gender, age and race.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 07:33 PM
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Semantics.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 05:32 PM
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Correct. Being able-bodied is also a source of privilege.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 05:12 PM
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Nope, I've had an easy life because I won the genetic and location-based lottery. I'm a CEO in the tech business. I look around me at other doing this jobs and it's pretty clear who is favoured by the system.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 01:33 PM
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Yes you can make the case that anyone is privileged in some way. Just like you can make the case that someone is sick in some way. Does that mean we should abandon medicine?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 01:32 PM
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It's such a ridiculous statement. It's like asking for evidence the holocaust happened.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 01:11 PM
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Those 'multitude of situations' aren't the 'majority of situations' are they?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 12:36 PM
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The rich black kid. Nobody sane would argue otherwise. That isn't the fucking argument! The point is that* all other things being equal* certain attributes give your privilege. It's so simple!! Why do people struggle with this concept?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 11:47 AM
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Exactly. A black disabled woman is barred from even serving her country. So he had more choices than he would have in other, less privileged situations.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 11:45 AM
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No. You are just describing another type of privilege. It's complex and nuanced.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 11:45 AM
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Untrue.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 11:44 AM
-15

Was the guy enlisted? I thought people chose to serve, accepting the risk?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 11:00 AM
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Of course white educated western women are privileged. Are you suggesting they don't think that? They don't deny white or western privilege do they? The point is that they have things worse than men, all other things being equal.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 10:59 AM
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This isn't how it works. You take a guy like that an imagine his life if born as a disabled back woman. Would it be easier or harder? Anita and Lena aren't saying they have a harder life than him, they are saying they have a harder life than if (all other things being equal) they were born male. How is that hard to understand?
/r/MensRights03/08/17 10:12 AM
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What's hard to understand about the idea that privilege is hard to notice when you are the recipient? I have every single positive attribute that people say means I'm privileged (male, white, blue eyes, tall, slim, posh British accent), but it took me 40 years to realise it. I just thought life was easier than everyone made out.
/r/MensRights03/08/17 10:11 AM
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I work in tech. I know the business models of these websites. It's public knowledge. You are being duped by clickbait. The feminism you see shown for clicks isn't representative. Same as the men rights activism feminists see shown for clicks.
/r/MensRights01/08/17 04:30 PM
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Nope, acknowledge the dirt is created by a commercial news media eager to manufacture outrage and monetise it.
/r/MensRights01/08/17 05:58 AM
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So give people the benefit of the doubt and steer away from shitty news sources and you'll feel better about the world.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 02:33 PM
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All of this hate people have for women and feminists is bad for your health, and it's created by websites seeking advertising revenue.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 12:45 PM
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Yes. Of course. People do it all the time and have done for decades.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 08:34 AM
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This is not a contradiction that I take part in, so why are we discussing it? I would happily paint both 'feminists' and 'men's right activists' with broad generalised behaviours, equally.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 08:50 PM
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I wasn't addressing you, but the broader group to which you belong. Is there any other basic English you need me to explain?
/r/MensRights30/07/17 05:33 PM
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One of the problems with English is the lack of distinct singular and plural forms of the pronoun 'you'.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 05:27 PM
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We get this weird impression you think that based on all the times you say it.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 05:21 PM
-4

I thought you guys think all women are rabid feminist gender critics?
/r/MensRights30/07/17 04:18 PM
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About half of the audience when I saw Dunkirk were female.
/r/MensRights30/07/17 01:52 PM
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You are not making good comparisons. Men's rights is in its early stages. When race, gay and women's rights were at this stage they also didn't have access to media or politics, but they DID have reasonable and charismatic leaders. If men's rights has this, name them.
/r/MensRights28/07/17 12:16 PM
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Race, gay and women rights activists were all victims by a regular persons definition at some point. They all had better communications strategies and better communicators working for them before they made any progress. Who is the charismatic leader of the men's rights movement?
/r/MensRights28/07/17 06:47 AM
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If this is true (which I doubt it is, as a man), you men's rights folks are doing a truly shitty job of communicating this fact in a way that people engage with. Must try harder.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 02:34 PM
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Along with r/conspiracy, r/imgoingtohellforthis and a bunch of other subs
/r/PussyPassDenied13/07/17 02:43 PM
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I'm staying here. Ready to argue. Not going anywhere. To repeat my question: What is your argument here, that the police officer was defending themselves from a split second determination that the woman was wielding a knife, or that the throw was justified punishment because she 'raised her hand to an officer'? I'll keep repeating this until you answer or withdraw, little one.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/17 05:18 AM
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I'm staying here. Ready to argue. Not going anywhere. To repeat my question: What is your argument here, that the police officer was defending themselves from a split second determination that the woman was wielding a knife, or that the throw was justified punishment because she 'raised her hand to an officer'? I'll keep repeating this until you answer or withdraw, little one.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 08:36 PM
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I'm staying here. Ready to argue. Not going anywhere. To repeat my question: What is your argument here, that the police officer was defending themselves from a split second determination that the woman was wielding a knife, or that the throw was justified punishment because she 'raised her hand to an officer'? I'll keep repeating this until you answer or withdraw, little one.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 08:23 PM
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Ok, got it. You are rather low energy, don't have the strength of mind to defend your rather weak position(s) and are waking away. Goodbye, little one.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 08:07 PM
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If feelings aren't an argument then you have no argument either. Is that why you are running away little one? Low on energy? Thing is, this video and interpretations of it is exactly the type of things used in courts of lisa to make legal arguments. Are the feelings of prosecution and defence layers also not arguments? What does constitute and argument if it isn't how a subject feels about something having looked at all the evidence? When Donald Trump feels that Jeb Bush is low energy (like you,…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 07:07 PM
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I'm not the one running. You are the guy trying in vain to stop and argument you realise you can't win, making excuses why you can't go on when in reality it's because you are low energy. If you think you can win the argument and to prove you aren't running away little one, why not tell me why your idea that the cop thought she had a knife is more likely than mine. Watching the video it's clear to me that the officer is stressed and getting more and more irate at the woman's behaviour. If I were…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 06:46 PM
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So neither of us have an argument then? Nice way of sidestepping the fact you have no stamina for it. I didn't click your link and Beethoven is for rubes.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 06:35 PM
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We both presented arguments for what we thought were the officer's motivations. Have you forgotten? Also lose is spelled with a single 'o'.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 06:12 PM
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Ok, got it. You lost the argument.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 05:59 PM
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How are you NOT telling me you know the full story, given you are saying precisely which type of weapon you think he assumed she was about to use?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 05:43 PM
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First sentence is you suggesting what you think he was thinking. Second sentence is you saying that unlike me you aren't trying to suggest what he was thinking.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 05:20 PM
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To be clear, your thoughts are the officer thought the woman had a knife and threw her to the ground because of this to ? Not any other weapon? Not that she was unarmed? If so, why do you think he assumed she had a knife? Why is throwing someone to the ground the chosen defensive move for someone carrying a knife? You don't think it is possible he was pissed off with her and angry at her constant interruptions and wanted to scare her so she wouldn't do it anymore? Seems WAY more likely.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 04:42 PM
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It's excessive because it's not the minimum force required to subdue someone with a knife and it's dangerous because throwing someone to the ground can cause fatal head injuries. Do you think every police force in the developed world would train law enforcement to do that exact move in that situation?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 04:29 PM
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Is that the training where you get told not to use excessive force?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 03:57 PM
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So, why not just grab her hand?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 03:47 PM
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Why not shoot her then?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 03:35 PM
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I looked. I think it was excessive use of force and a 'punishment', when law enforcements job is actually to apprehend suspects so that the justice system can punish them.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 03:03 PM
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I don't see an answer to my question.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/17 06:23 AM
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Are you saying this is the minimum force required to stop her alleged attack, or that it's a 'punishment' she deserved?
/r/PussyPassDenied10/07/17 08:28 PM
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I interpret anger.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:17 PM
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Who said in all circumstances? You do know 2=2 means in all circumstances two is two?
/r/MensRights29/06/17 12:58 PM
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Lets go back to the actual post Check your double standard card. Man + sex w/ minor = terrorist Woman + sex w/ minor = niiice The equals sign is the key here. That means 'always'. So women are always treated better than men in these cases. It only takes one piece of evidence to refute 'always'
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:04 AM
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No, the post I was referring to was basically saying "there is a double standard, this woman is 'having sex' while a man in all circumstances would be 'raping'" and I found an instance where a man is 'having sex' in the headline. That's like responding to a comment thread about yet another cop who killed an unarmed black man with a link about sometime when a cop killed an innocent white guy. Nope, it's like if there was a thread where a black guy was killed by a cop and someone said 'that would …
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:02 AM
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I'm not taking part in that discussion. I answered a post about a 'double standard' which was based on one headline which I refuted with one more headline.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:54 AM
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We are talking about one newspaper headline.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 08:54 AM
0

Nope, it isn't trivialised enough.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:36 AM
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As is the original post? Feel free to make some original content about headline statistics, but this is a discussion about one headline and by itself it's a non-story.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:35 AM
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Probably should have a thread about that then rather than this headline which is a complete non-story.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:44 AM
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Because this sub is full of people with a victim complex?
/r/MensRights28/06/17 06:17 PM
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https://www.google.se/amp/www.ctpost.com/policereports/amp/Man-charged-with-having-sex-with-11-year-old-girl-371770.php
/r/MensRights28/06/17 04:49 PM
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Here's a headline with the sexes reversed where they use the exact same phrase. https://www.google.se/amp/www.ctpost.com/policereports/amp/Man-charged-with-having-sex-with-11-year-old-girl-371770.php
/r/MensRights28/06/17 04:39 PM
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If you think Europe is going to shit then your eyes are closed. What a silly conclusion to a discussion.
/r/MensRights25/06/17 11:08 AM
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It'a not objective that Europe is going to shit.
/r/MensRights25/06/17 09:34 AM
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I don't care what your personal opinion is of what is bad or not. We've seen in numerous elections across Europe this year what happens when it looks like a far right party or candidate is going to get power. The opposition galvanises against them. This happened in Austria (Hofer), Holland (Wilders) and France (Le Pen). It will also happen in Sweden. Never mind the fact that the SD aren't now the second biggest party because they have gained support. Their support has been flat since last spring…
/r/MensRights25/06/17 08:53 AM
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They really won't win a proper majority. Look across Europe for how the opposition vote galvanises when that becomes a possibility.
/r/MensRights25/06/17 07:05 AM
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Definitely true it has forced changes in immigration policy. The old policies were for a different time...
/r/MensRights24/06/17 06:27 PM
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You don't really 'win' in the Swedish system. There are LOTS of parties and they have to work together to build majorities in coalition governments. Not many parties want to work with the ultra right guys.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 04:05 PM
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No, I'm absolutely in agreement with you that what you said happened. I'm 100% sure you are speaking the truth. But you hopefully understand that your testimony isn't enough to support the entire assertion we are seeking evidence for?
/r/MensRights13/06/17 09:46 AM
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I'm not. The burden of proof isn't on me, it's on the dude who made the crazy conspiratorial assertion.
/r/MensRights13/06/17 08:18 AM
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Confused by equating 'nearly all women' with 'feminist'
/r/MensRights13/06/17 07:30 AM
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You are right, only an insane person would suggest your data doesn't support the idea that the entire planet's education system is controlled by feminists.
/r/MensRights13/06/17 06:47 AM
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On any sane person's say so who isn't a conspiracy theorist.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 11:56 AM
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It's not enough evidence that feminists control the entire world education infrastructure.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 09:30 AM
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Ok. So we have 'Feminists' in control of that section of Australia. That's about 0.005% of the way to proving the point.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 08:52 AM
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How is this a source for 'feminists controlling the entire education infrastructure?'
/r/MensRights12/06/17 08:34 AM
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Nice narrow anecdote.
/r/MensRights12/06/17 07:02 AM
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Confused by equating 'woman' with 'feminist'
/r/MensRights12/06/17 07:02 AM
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Confused by equating 'woman' with 'feminist'
/r/MensRights12/06/17 07:02 AM

That doesn't support your argument in any way whatsoever.
/r/MensRights11/06/17 06:28 PM
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What's the source for feminists controlling the entire education infrastructure? In which nations?
/r/MensRights11/06/17 06:07 PM
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Does nobody get that she's making a joke? That saying terrorists are mostly Muslims therefore that all Muslims must be controlled is as stupid as saying that terrorists are mostly men therefore the entire male sex should be controlled? You aren't doing a great job of taking the intellectual high ground here people.
/r/MensRights07/06/17 06:45 AM
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I really don't know why they would call out gender if they are a political movement about gender. It makes me think they aren't about gender.
/r/MensRights28/05/17 06:59 AM
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Why don't they refer directly to fathers and mothers? What's your theory?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 07:54 PM
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Nothing more squirmy than a supposedly grown man (lol) noping out of a face to face meeting. There's a coffee place on the ground floor of the food hall at medis, opposite the kebab place. Anytime next week, office hours. Tell me the time!
/r/MensRights26/05/17 07:54 PM
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Got it. Fake. American person pretending to know stuff about Sweden on Reddit.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 05:56 PM
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So you are a fake!! Thought we could grab a coffee, man to man. Or maybe you aren't a man or in Sweden?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 05:40 PM
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Are you in Stockholm? Wanna meet up for a coffee? I'm on Södermalm 9-5 most days.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 05:34 PM
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I'm just looking at the text by itself, considering you've offered no other supporting information or context.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 05:20 PM
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You can give any amount of money or items of value to anyone in Sweden irrespective of the relationship with no tax implications as long as there is no services offered in return. If there are services offered in return the person receiving would either have to register it as income on their declaration or if they were an employee of the giver the giver would need to pay social charges at 32% and the receiver income tax at a percentage defined by their 'tax table'. I'm a CEO running a technology…
/r/MensRights26/05/17 05:14 PM
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Why don't they use the term 'mother' rather than 'custodial parent'?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 05:08 PM
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Tell me the tax implications of me buying my kid clothes in Sweden if we are separated! Can't wait! When you are being the big grown up advocat do you shout at people and call them loonies if they don't agree with your interpretation of data? :D
/r/MensRights26/05/17 03:54 PM
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You said it would be subject to tax implications! And you couldn't find any data on wether those cases were contested or not! Not fooling anyone!
/r/MensRights26/05/17 03:38 PM
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Yep. So knowledgeable about Swedish law you talked about 'external gift' tax here! Classic.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 03:16 PM
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Not really. It just proves you are US based and using US terminology in the argument (about Sweden) with no knowledge of Swedish law. It's embarrassing.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 03:01 PM
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We are talking about Sweden. Gåvoskatt was abolished in 2005. I'm not sure you are qualified to talk about Sweden. I think you are talking about the US and pretending these laws also apply to Sweden. We are only talking about Sweden.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:57 PM
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Did you know there are only 5 positive results in the whole internet for barnomsorg "Bedrägeri mot staten." and 50k results for child custody "fraud against the state" Are you sure you are talking about Sweden?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:53 PM
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The inference that "WHEREAS the objectives of these groups are to increase restrictions and limits on custodial parents' rights" is specifically referring to fathers increasing restrictions on the rights of mothers.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:50 PM
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Ok, so men's rights activists fight really hard in circumstances where the man wants sole custody?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:46 PM
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Heck they're not even legally freely able to friggin put clothes on the child because that's then an external gift with all the tax implications that are involved in that. Hmmmm. Which specific Swedish tax are you talking about?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:45 PM
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So to be clear, men's rights activists want every single separate couple to share both parenting and work 50/50?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:41 PM
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Why are men's rights groups not fighting for more fathers having sole custody?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:24 PM
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Vad är svensk ordet för 'fraud against the state'?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:22 PM
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That's about forced joint custody, not preventing fathers from getting sole custody.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:17 PM
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I'm sorry you are making inferences from this written statement that I'm not able to make. If you can find more clear supporting evidence for you claim that feminist groups want women to stay at home with the kids and men to work, please share them.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 01:56 PM
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Of course I read it. WHEREAS the objectives of these groups are to increase restrictions and limits on custodial parents' rights What specifically are they referring to here? I see no mention of fathers or granting fathers custody, I see non-gendered language about any parent who has custody. and to decrease child support obligations of non-custodial parents This is not relevant to the discussion. Find me a section or other quote where a feminist group says they prefer the mother to take care of…
/r/MensRights26/05/17 01:46 PM
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Where does it say that they are convinced of that? Or is there some other source you have for that. All I'm seeing is feminist groups not liking men's rights groups in general, which seems reasonable. Vice versa also true.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 12:54 PM
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But the words are talking about everything that Men's Rights groups are working on, not just custody - so it doesn't support your argument at all. Nevermind that no feminist would fight for a woman parenting while the man works. That's like suggesting communists are fighting for private ownership of industry.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 12:05 PM
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Is it because those groups are also involved in other issues? You need to prove that they are specifically talking about ONLY child custody here and not the other stated aims of Men's Rights groups.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 11:44 AM
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So you're claiming that a 1 to 24 is only a problem, if it's contested... Nope, you are claiming this data can be extrapolated to mean that 'Sweden' considers men who want to parent alone 'the scum of the earth'. I'm yet to see any evidence for that. How do you then know that fathers are neglecting to contest based on the futility? Because the culture here is very supportive of fathers rearing children. As you will know from your extensive research into Swedish parenting culture, fathers are enc…
/r/MensRights26/05/17 11:29 AM
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There's a simple way of finding out if the data you found is problematic. You find out in what proportion of the instances where women take sole custody in Sweden the father contested it, it went to court and despite the father's protestations the judge found in favor of sole custody for the mother. This is your 'scum of the earth' hypothesis. Your analogies are not good. Ice cream and money are things that people like and have basically no downside to taking. Taking care of kids is fucking hard…
/r/MensRights26/05/17 08:46 AM
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Again, insults. This isn't how you debate. Show me evidence that your assumption is correct. I can assure you I'm not a 'lunatic' - I have no mental illness. That's just a get out for the fact you have no evidence to support your assumption.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 07:45 AM
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I don't understand why those statistics are a 'problem' so rather than 'emphasise' why not use your powers of persuasion to explain?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 07:40 AM
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Nope, you need to provide evidence that what you are suggesting is the problem actually is the problem. This is what reasonable discussion is, not swearing and all-capping people who question whether your assumption is correct. Find me evidence that your interpretation of the data (that the men who aren't getting sole custody in Sweden are finding themselves in that situation because judges consider them the 'scum of the earth', rather than because men are choosing not to take custody by choice)…
/r/MensRights26/05/17 07:31 AM
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What's the backstory on why you use caps and swearing for emphasis when talking to a stranger on the internet and they 'have troubles grasping exactly what the problem is' (otherwise known as 'disagreeing')?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 07:19 AM
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Why are they fighting those people trying to get equal custody? Is it because those groups are also involved in other issues?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 06:13 AM
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Can you share with me some statements from feminist groups where they say they don't want women to work and they'd rather they'd stay at home and take care of the kids? This is contrary to any form of feminism I've ever heard of.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 06:13 AM
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When people disagree with you you swear and talk in all caps. Why do you do that if you aren't angry?
/r/MensRights26/05/17 06:11 AM
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I don't see any reasoning against stopping men taking care of kids. I see action against other political groups. Do you have any specific information from US feminists about why they feel women should be doing most the parenting? Seems contradictory to feminism as I know it here in socialist, feminist Northern Europe.
/r/MensRights25/05/17 08:31 PM
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It's the swearing and caps that makes you come across as angry. Maybe I should rephrase. Why do you swear and use caps when I'm not? What's the backstory?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 08:28 PM
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You need supporting evidence for the 'scum of the earth' and the lack of need to dissolve a civil partnership. Here's the form to dissolve the latter. http://www.domstol.se/Publikationer/Blanketter/Andra_sprak/DV_169_eng.doc I did offer a potential reason for the discrepancy. You rejected both of them with 'you are a looney' and 'you area racist'. Why are you so angry. Maybe provide a hit of backstory?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 05:47 PM
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I'm simply postulating other potential reasons for this data other than 'judges are biased towards men' because as a resident here I think that notion is complete bullshit. The culture here is 3000% more supportive of men taking care of kids than the USA. Look up 'pappaledighet' Sorry for using the term 'divorce' when I actually meant 'dissolution of legal partnerships'. In Sweden if you live together you are considered married by law and must register your separation if you chose to do so inclu…
/r/MensRights25/05/17 03:46 PM
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Without the data it's impossible to know. All I know (as a divorcee in Sweden with several friends who are divorced or who have divorced parents) Divorces are never contested here. That tiny percentage could just be conservative muslims (of which there are many in Sweden) who chose not to take custody. I don't have an agenda aside from knowing the truth. I came to this thread from r/all not men's rights.
/r/MensRights25/05/17 03:00 PM
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And to be clear you are assuming in those cases that it goes before a judge and the judge finds in favour of the mother? What's your evidence?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 02:33 PM
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Why? Taking care of kids means you can't work at all or less. If you force the kids on the mother she can't work. Why would feminists want the guys to have an easy life with no childcare?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 01:50 PM
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No, they want to care for the kids in joint custody. Men here do 50% of the parenting when parents are together, why would that change if they were apart? People don't move around here much for jobs so divorced couples are likely to be living in the same city close or each other. What's the data on Swedish contested custody where the courts refuse the father access and give it to the mother. That's the data you need to pass judgement.
/r/MensRights25/05/17 01:49 PM
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Courts don't preside over divorces in Sweden in any meaningful way unless there is a dispute. Lawyers are involved never. How do you know these numbers are due to men losing disputes rather than men voluntarily not taking sole custody because they opt for joint instead?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 12:35 PM
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I'm sorry, can you walk me through these numbers again, I don't understand why low sole custody for men means than men have less rights? What makes you think that men here are being deprived of custody that they want?
/r/MensRights25/05/17 08:23 AM
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I think the lack of antagonistic divorce culture in Sweden will lead to the lack of sole custody for men.
/r/MensRights25/05/17 06:46 AM
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It's feminism that has created this equality in Sweden.
/r/MensRights25/05/17 06:45 AM
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You guys should move to Sweden. We do half of the parenting here and joint custody is assumed by the divorce papers.
/r/MensRights24/05/17 05:35 PM
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Equal rights isn't equality.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/02/17 04:59 PM
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The word of the law isn't everything. You are only talking about certain nations I assume.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/02/17 07:45 AM
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Source?
/r/PussyPassDenied11/02/17 09:57 PM
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