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You would also get $100k in five years working a $20,000/year dead-end job. You're ignoring the labor cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:23 PM
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Of course dating is easy in high school, it's because you are cooped up in a small room for 8 hours a day with a roughly 50-50 gender split of boys and girls of the same age all going through puberty. You don't have to go out of your comfort zone all the time to meet people, nor put much effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 03:37 PM
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(with some weird caveats that run very contrary to RP theology). Wife is also very high value. It is possible because I’m living it. Unicorn?....whatever. I do believe lots of RP ideas are legit, but definitely not all because I am literally living contrary to some of them and living a lifestyle that most wouldn’t believe possible in many ways. I'd like to hear what parts of RP you think are wrong. I'm interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 08:05 AM
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Every conversation is a waste of time when it involves poppy blu.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:31 AM
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The question here is: to what extent did his decisions drive her to cheat? Easy. Zero. Decent people don't cheat. They break up. If your partner cheated, it's because they're a terrible partner who doesn't respect you, and no amount of analysis is going to clarify what you could have done better because you can't fix a relationship with a person like that. His actions might kill the attraction, might affect her decision to leave, all sorts of things around a breakup he can analyze for future dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:07 AM
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I know what an internal locus of control is, thank you. Blaming yourself for the actions of others is not an internal locus of control, it is pointless self-flagellation and denying others agency. It is a path straight to misery. You are in control of your own life because you choose what people to associate with, not because you can control their actions. That is a crucial distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:53 AM
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rather than asking himself either what he’s consistently doing wrong to drive women to cheat on him; Whoa there buddy, that's a pretty disgusting thing to say. You don't 'drive someone to cheat on you'. You are not responsible for other people's actions. They chose to cheat. Yes, OP should wonder why he's consistently picking terrible women as partners, that I agree with, but this first part is awful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:42 AM
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rage and anger are fear What? No they aren't. Rage and anger can be a misdirected expression of fear, or of pain, or of heartbreak, or of many other emotions, but they are not the same thing nor are they always an expression of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 01:11 PM
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The statistics might mislead you where China is concerned. Especially since both the gender disparity and one-child policy had and still have massive impacts on everything related to gender in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:46 PM
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Wait, did you just compare them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 02:58 PM
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Workers can unionise; your wife can’t. I'd argue feminism is in many ways exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 12:10 PM
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This is a debate sub, not AskReddit. I responded to something in her post that I felt was important to discuss. Heck, I wasn't even disagreeing with her. I just wanted to make sure that she isn't going around misunderstanding romance and giving men bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:48 PM
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Fair enough. I just wanted to add that because there's a shocking amount of people who believe relationships 'just happen' on their own, rather than realize that the reason it 'just happened' to you is because the other person made it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:42 PM
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I don't believe in actively searching for my next relationships as the best relationships have came to me while I'm not looking for it. That's because you're a woman. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it really bothers me when women aren't aware of this and consequently give this advice to men, for whom it does not work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 10:51 AM
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Internal Vs External stability. People give monogamy credit for “internal” stability that should properly be assigned to external performance. No, you described the benefits of external stability that monogamy has. That doesn't mean it doesn't provide internal stability too, nor does it mean others don't talk about that. For example, a high percentage of disgruntled men who can't get sex/relationships/procreation causes disorder and instability in a country. Monogamy prevents this to a large deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 10:30 AM
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I love the mental gymnastics visibly going on here to justify holding the starting position. Anti-Traditionalist: "Gender roles are stupid and oppressive and should be abolished." Traditionalist: "I think gender roles are natural and an important part of relationships" Anti-Traditionalist: "Relationships are healthier and better if we stay individuals and don't take roles" Traditionalist: "But part of living together means dividing work more efficiently, which inherently means taking on certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:38 PM
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If you think our lizard brains tell us to marry porn stars and strippers, I think you have a fundamentally wrong idea of what our lizard brains want us to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 01:54 PM
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Yeah, this is incorrect. Both men and women have a bias in favour of women. Men do not have in-group bias, at least for gender. This has already been shown empirically, the comment above me linked the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 07:50 PM
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You're an ideologically possessed nutcase spouting ideological rhetoric thinking that you sound intelligent and talking down at people who see how stupid you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 10:11 AM
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And calling someone “baby” you just met, what the hell is this behaviour? Do you truly find that okay? That is rather shocking to me. Baby, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 03:55 PM
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But is it all worth it? Well that depends on whether it works out in the end, doesn't it? But I don't see any alternative path with better success rates, so yeah I would recommend this. risks to be cheated on or divorced once she loses her youth and beauty. You always risk this. It's the main risk a woman takes in dating. That's why you go with the strategy that minimizes that risk, which involves investing heavily into the relationship during your prime, and proving yourself to your partner by …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:57 AM
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Yeah, and I'm telling you if you want a quality relationship, you need to choose based on potential rather than realized success, and character, because otherwise your partner will never fully trust your motives and you'll end up in a miserable marriage. By all means be picky. I'm just disagreeing what it is you should be looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:47 AM
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Hah, of course they do. If you think guys look at her and never think "I wonder if she's only with me because of my money", then you have no fucking understanding of men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:44 AM
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That... really has nothing to do with this. If you believe that, fine. So figure out what they actually want and take that into account when advising women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:20 PM
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Sure. And if that's all you provide, the men will dump you when you are no longer a young pretty woman. You need to go further than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:14 PM
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Yeah, give a woman advice that has nothing to do with what the man wants from them. How is that going to help her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:12 PM
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Well, if a young woman gets with a young dusty, she loses her prime on a broke man who will leave her. Then what? Her whole job on the romantic/sexual marketplace is to pick a guy based on potential (so he doesn't end up broke) and character (So he stays loyal to her), and then investing in that relationship. If you do all three right, the odds of you ending up in a quality, healthy, and loving relationship are very high. Is this a risky deal? Yeah, it is. You have to put a heck of a lot of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:56 PM
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I'm amazed I even need to say this, but men's needs matter for women's advice, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:25 PM
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In very basic, exagerrated gender roles: Men want to share their money with a wife who will love them even if they are broke. Women want to share their beauty with a man who will love them even if they are ugly. This is a fair deal if both keep up their end. You want to cover all four of these bases. Both get their partner in their prime, and both get proof of their partner's love when they are not in their prime. The problem with your advice, is that it misses one element: You've never proven y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:13 PM
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ALWAYS date a man who already made it! This might be the worst female advice I've read on this subreddit, and if you think about it from the man's point of view for about 5 minutes you can figure out why. I wonder if you can guess why. Hint: Unequal exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:57 PM
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The human brain doesn't mature until around age 25. I fucking hate this rubbish statistic that gets thrown around all the time. Firstly, just because certain brain functions like long-term planning aren't fully developed until 25 doesn't mean you don't have basic fucking common sense. Your brain is still mostly finished even if it isn't fully finished. It does not take a fully finished brain to realize that assholes are fucking assholes. Being young is not an excuse for acting like a fucking mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:51 PM
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Yes, there are visual aspects to female sexuality. Height is one of them (though height is more than just visual). Female sexuality is just less visual than men's, not devoid of visual stimuli.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:40 PM
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Female sexuality is less visual than male sexuality. This is not a controversial topic, it's well studied in the psychological literature. You can easily identify this in normal life by comparing women's preference for erotic literature to men's preference for visual porn. That's not to say that women are 'less shallow'. That's just wishful thinking and the 'women are wonderful' effect. Women are just as shallow as men, it's just that the traits they evolutionarily select for are less visual, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:25 PM
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Huh? Women being married to men who earn less isn't mutually exclusive with them looking down on their husbands. After all, there is a clear upward trend of women looking down on their husbands. Just because they are married now doesn't inherently mean that is a healthy/stable or unhealthy/unstable marriage. You need a different statistic for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:22 AM
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Yes, men prefer a woman from the same class, but that is specifically about class and not wealth. You can be the same class but much less wealthy, which most men won't find unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:15 AM
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On the other hand, if you say "Yeah I'll be at work at 9am tomorrow" and then at 8am you lie in bed, too lazy to get up, and decide not to go after all, then yeah, you lied. The main difference is in whether the person is voluntarily or involuntarily breaking their word.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 01:04 PM
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You're just committing a false dichotomy fallacy. The only options aren't "blissful ignorance" or "eternal paranoia". I'm not entertaining this conversation any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:01 PM
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Is that statistically true though? Are video game players more likely to be violent than non-gamers? I'd like a source for that. But assuming that that is true, saying "I don't want a gamer because he's more likely to be violent" is a perfectly rational and logical preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:27 PM
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...what? I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:20 PM
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Is it logical to say "I don't want to date a woman who has a high n count, because she's more likely to cheat on me." ? Because that is statistically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:19 PM
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My point was that how they are coping with it right now is not necessarily how they will continue to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:51 PM
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Mental health is pretty damn important in a partner. Even more so if you intend to have children, putting your wife through some pretty wild hormonal imbalances. Plus the stresses of raising a child that can mess you up. Or heck, even most birth control is hormonal and can really mess mentally unwell people up. Hormones + Stress + Mental Illness = You don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:53 PM
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I don't see any possible purpose to his comment other than to go "Haha, if you dislike sluts it's just cause you can't get in their pants!" There is no productive discussion to be had there, it's just insulting people because they disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:28 PM
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Then what is the point of his comment other than to shame the men with these preferences and ideas and imply that they're simply jealous about not getting the puss?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 12:51 PM
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My bad. Other men's preferences. Men who like promiscuous women are just as not-understanding of men who don't, as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 12:37 PM
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You need to state what you believe I'll take this one: It doesn't matter which way the causation goes. If your partner is promiscuous, she is more likely to have mental health problems. If you don't know how they are linked, and you don't, you should logically treat it as a risk factor. You can test for STDs, but mental health issues can be hidden a long time. It's not worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:34 AM
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Because you are extremely uncomfortable with men's preferences being logical and will look for any way to turn this around and blame it on the men instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:25 AM
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Empirical research rather than stupid hyperbole. If you want to be a part of the discussion, do the required reading. Do your homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:46 PM
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Sure, their experience of the effect of masculinity is a valuable part of the conversation, and I agree it should be taken into account, but in the current system, women make up more than 50% of the voter base that decides on the rules, and more like 90% of the accepted discourse is shaped by women and feminist thinking. To put that into context, if you gave men the majority vote on how women should behave, it would be mandatory for wives to give their husbands a daily blowjob every morning befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 04:34 PM
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The difference now is that women, rather than SOLELY men, have a public voice in this process. Isn't this kind of the problem? I'm all for democracy, but there is an argument to be made that women shouldn't have a(n important) voice in how male energy should be channeled, since they fundamentally don't understand the male experience. That is the biggest issue with modern day feminism: Women, who don't understand masculinity, trying to talk about masculinity and dictating male behaviour. They don…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 04:15 PM
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I maintain that each individual breast is a smaller volume than her torso without breasts. But sure, you win this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 09:05 PM
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So what is your point? Because it's not very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:02 PM
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Upon rereading, I may have come off a bit hostile there. Apologies for that. I just genuinely didn't get the point of the question as I wasn't using it in any technical precise sense. Anyway, as for the actual point: It's much more than just that. Firstly, even if the woman doesn't have a child to care for, men have reason to care about promiscuity because women always know a child is theirs, but men have to gamble their entire genetic survival on a woman's faithfulness. Before paternity testing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:01 PM
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Yeah, your actions do not reflect on your personality in aaaany way. Of course 'slut' isn't a personality by itself. Neither is 'asshole', 'gamer', 'party girl', 'frat boy', or 'introvert' or any other. They're all just aspects of a person's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:11 PM
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Does it matter? Maybe it wasn't the exact right technical term, but I am just generally referring to a reaction that comes from biological origins. Or are you one of those people who believe that men only judge promiscuity because of social constructs?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:10 PM
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You are just telling yourself lies too. You want it to be an insecure ego thing, so you convince yourself it must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:45 PM
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It’s a huge red flag that women happen to be more willing to overlook than men. While I'm generally on board with your position that women should not pick high n-count men because it's a red flag, there is one issue with it though: The fact that women didn't develop the same instinctive reaction that men did suggest it's not as big of a deal when men do it. At least evolutionarily speaking. The women might still be miserable. I would still advise any woman not to pick a man who sleeps around, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:43 PM
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But no, brother believe me, the way to go is to have a cute committed girl the top you can get. Out of curiosity, would you agree with me that this puts a tough time limit on men who want to find a quality life partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:40 PM
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A lot of blue pilled men are incels also. Being an incel always requires some degree of blue pill, because it requires that you put women on a pedestal at least high enough that you can't climb it. If you believe that women are just as simple and easily manipulated as men, then you have to accept that you could have sex if you wanted to, and you're not an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:34 PM
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Patience is the worst thing you can teach a man in today's dating world. Patience will just get you a divorced single mom and a shitty sex life. If men want to genuinely enforce their preferences they need to grow up, get in shape, start a career, and get their life in order by age 25. It's arguably a stricter timeframe than the so-called 'wall'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 08:15 PM
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Do I understand this correctly? Scissor man = Hot guy. Wants girl to be attractive or wealthy. Paper man = Wealthy guy. Wants girl to be loyal. Stone man = Average guy? Wants girl to be average? Isn't this sort of like Alpha, Beta, and Mixed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 01:11 AM
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I'm not the person you were originally talking to. I'm just pointing out your dishonest debating techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:09 PM
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Calling a topic 'irrelevant' after you've been proven wrong on it is textbook goalpost moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:32 PM
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Chivalry was a Christian development? Hahahahaha What the hell relevency do you think chivalry has in this discussion Holy smokes, that goalpost moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:33 PM
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If men cannot harass women without consequence You are still assuming all men accused are guilty. Men aren't afraid of being rightfully accused. That one is easy. Just don't do anything wrong. The scary one is being wrongfully accused. You can't control that one except by avoiding women entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:37 PM
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women were forced into it by being preventing from supporting themselves, and later, by being sold fairly tale weddings and happily ever after. Oh please, get rid of the feminist fairytale revisionist history. Women needed marriage even more than men because birth control didn't exist. You couldn't be a woman and have sex outside of marriage for long before you got pregnant and got stuck having to raise a child by yourself, or dumping that burden on your parents. Women were oppressed by their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 12:27 PM
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Everyone eventually gets slapped in the face with reality and realized this is stupid. Men just tend to do it faster than women because men get much more immediate feedback on their dating strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 11:09 AM
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I'm not engaging in your sad attempt at gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:44 PM
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The other very important thing to keep in mind here, is that human beings have lived without paternity tests for 99.999% of all their existence. Women knew without question that a child was theirs, but men had no real way of knowing a child was theirs. You just had to pick a partner who wasn't going to cuckold you, and trust that they didn't. So we evolved biological mechanisms to avoid the risk of cuckoldry, and one of those mechanisms was to avoid promiscuous partners. Because the DNA that pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:29 PM
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You're dodging the questions. I used virgins as an extreme example and you know it. Male and female partner distributions are not uniform and this impacts your proxy. You're not accounting for that. And yes, I know regressions look at patterns. I was referring to the fact that you were talking about this as if we'd need to manually inspect the data and look at 'ratios'. I got the impression that you're not well versed in statistics. The better choice is self-reports. It's not perfect but it's be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:38 PM
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You didn't really address my second point: You are measuring the promiscuity of the people they sleep with more than the promiscuity of the person themselves. For example, how would Guy A who sleeps with 10 slutty girls compare to Guy B who sleeps with 20 virgin girls in this study? I know you can still have HPV as a virgin, but the chance is definitely lower. This is a big problem with your proxy, because we know that sexual distribution is not uniform. Apart from that, okay, so you're treating…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:53 PM
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And 20 partners is nowhere near average anyway. People aren't surprised to find out their partner has had sex, they're surprised their partner has had sex with such a large number of people. It's like being surprised that your partner has had 200 parking tickets. You're not surprised that they sometimes parked their car wrong, but you are surprised at how out of the ordinary that number is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:35 PM
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Some other gems from OPs post history: I love my boyfriend even though I know he’s going to cheat eventually Penoids, by definition, are not wired to be loyal. I’m going to stop showering for weeks and get myself a yeast infection, then I’ll make a desperate horny man eat me out so he can clean my vagina with his mouth. This is how I can get revenge on men. They made me into the monster I am today. They asked for this. Just wait until I gain full power. Why do moids think that going for low qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:29 PM
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I really wish journalists would stop referring to advertising agencies as 'researchers'. These agencies never perform actual research in anything close to a scientific fashion. Their data is trash and their results are trash. They are only concerned with advertising and nothing else. What sort of actual studies or experiments are you hoping to find on this topic? 'Study finds women get groped at clubs'. Yeah, no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:48 AM
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This kind of judgment of the past is almost always done exclusively towards women Really? You've never heard women tell each other not to date a guy because he's a player?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:30 AM
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What is your alternative to self-reported partner counts? A 40 year observation study in which scientists follow girls everywhere they go from the start of puberty until menopause, recording every sexual interaction they have? No? That's absurd? Yeah, that's why sometimes self-reported data is the only data you can ever get. I'm well aware that self-reported data is very flawed and you should avoid it if you can, but there is no alternative on this topic. What would such a 'respectable' study lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:19 AM
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I mean, you can't judge her for her history but expect her not to judge you for yours, so both people are hypocrites in your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:10 AM
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OP's fiancee has a self-reported count of 20, so even if you have issues with self-reported counts being inaccurate, we're still comparing apples to apples here. Anyway, I suppose you object to all of the research on this topic? Long term marriage rates, happiness, depression, mental illness, divorce, all of it is rubbish? What do you believe? That having lots of sex with different people has zero impact on your ability to bond? Zero impact on your psychology? Says nothing at all about your char…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:00 AM
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Do you think that a virgin wife will never have eyes for another or wonder what she missed? You can't dismiss statistical correlations with a "well do you think X is perfect?". That is just a lazy fallacy. Well, sure, smoking is correlated with cancer, but do you think if you don't smoke you're immune to cancer? Might as well ignore that stupid research and buy a pack. Doesn't work that way. What the OP is doing makes perfect sense mathematically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:34 PM
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I have full confidence in your ability to read a dictionary before continuing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:24 PM
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How uncharacteristically self-aware of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:06 PM
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I'm not familiar with Roosh V. I haven't played the first four and I don't want to ruin the plot, but Beef Rollo Tomassi sounds delicious. Can I get a recipe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:43 PM
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Hahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:44 AM
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Men. But that's a wasted effort on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:41 AM
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No, what they mean is they get more action as an assertive asshole than as a non-assertive nice-guy, essentially proving that either being an asshole doesn't matter, or it matters less than being assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:34 AM
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Yet, for whatever reason you implied that it’s silly for the other commenter to expect that men would be honest about their preferences and true perception of a woman. Apparently, the phrase “two wrongs don’t make a right” only applies when women are doing the kind of wrong that men have been doing. When men are doing the same ‘wrong’, other men like you are suddenly silent and you no longer hear that phrase. You even go as far as making snarky comments to women by asking them why they think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 11:59 AM
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I'm confused what your point is. Women lying about their past is okay because men lie about their preferences? I don't think two wrongs make a right. Most men will actually tell you that they don't want to commit to you. It just usually takes a euphemistic form, like "I'm not looking for anything serious", or "Let's not put a label on it". Admittedly, yeah, they don't just outright say "I just want to have sex with you but never commit", but it's usually pretty obvious. Now, if you want to argue…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:05 PM
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I pointed it out because you stated: So women have slightly fewer partners Men have slightly more % partners Which is just mathematically impossible. I'm not actually disagreeing with your overall point about distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:06 AM
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The same reason you expect anyone to be honest about anything: Because you expect them to be a decent human being. You can make the exact same argument about anything. Cheating, debt, criminal record, STDs, having a stalker, etc. Just because it would be advantageous to lie about it doesn't make it okay to do so, and if you told men "Why do you expect a woman to be honest about her affair if it could ruin her chances with you?" people will think you are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:02 AM
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Quote from the article: “Had I known there were rules and regulations for premium snaps I would have willingly claimed taxes on it,” she said. “But for the most part it’s untouched territory.” Hahahahahahahaha. I'm sorry, are we supposed to feel bad for people getting audited to make sure they are paying their taxes? Because I don't. Saying you thought you didn't have to pay taxes on it doesn't make you sound innocent, it just makes you sound dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:58 AM
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I mean, do you expect the men you haven't rejected to ruin their chances by calling you a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:28 AM
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I don't think that qualifies you in the way you think it does...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:27 AM
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Men and women can't have different average partner counts*. It's a mathematical impossibility. They vary in the distribution, but not in the mean. *A very slight difference can exist due to slight differences in numbers of men and women, but assuming 50-50 split, the average must be exactly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:22 AM
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Actually there are: Just a few exmaples. Oh and BTW less than 6% of scholarships in the US are gender based. That's 6% too many. Abolish them. They're illegal. And yes, I'm talking about the male ones too. And yes, there are far more female-only scholarships than male-only. So when you assume all the grants and scholarships are going to women, "discrimination!!" When it's pointed out men still get most grants and scholarships, now "we can't draw conclusions" and need a "multivariate analysis." M…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:17 PM
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So if a white man got those things (grants, scholarships, etc) and you didn't, would you still claim it was unfair/preferential treatment/supremacy? I'm talking about grants/scholarships only available to women. There are none or close to none that are exclusively for men. The reason I'm talking about those is because there is no room for debate. They're morally wrong, and illegal in many places on top of that. As for your question, if the majority of people gettings grants/scholarships are whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 03:37 PM
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I'm not necessarily saying he's oppressed. Hell, I hate the term. I'm saying if you give advantages to women but not men, you are advocating female supremacy, not equality. There is no way around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:53 PM
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But I mean no one is necessarily pushing anyone into those jobs If nobody is pushing people of any race into slums, just pushing white people into wealthy districts, that is still white supremacy. If you push for 50% women in all the top jobs, and do nothing for the lower jobs, then you are a female supremacist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:47 PM
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If you are providing resources to one gender but not the other, such as research grants, university scholarships, seminars, conferences, gender quotas, housing, financial aid, or just good old preferential treatment, then yes, you are 'pushing out men' for purely supremacist reasons. There is no justifying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 01:42 PM
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Look up Australian gender-blind promotions. You're just doing the same thing again. You are purely looking at things that seem to confirm your existing beliefs and then trying to fix those, completely ignoring everything in the world that goes against your beliefs, and letting the sexism there exist just fine. You are a supremacist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:45 AM
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No, they're not. You can't just make up claims and pretend they're true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 10:33 AM
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That's not what he was saying. He was talking about the push to get women into high-paying jobs, which is inherently unequal access to the jobs. You can't push women into high paying jobs without unfairly pushing men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:55 AM
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That's not equality, that's supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:45 AM
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I may have been a bit unclear: I was thinking of this in a gender-reversed way. So your reverse 1s are promiscuous men who get upset that you're judging them (the aforementioned RedPill mods), and your reverse 3s are the promiscuous women who think you should want promiscuous men because they are great in bed(also mentioned). What I'm curious about is whether you had any reverse 2s (Men in general, not necessarily promiscuous, who get upset that you're setting standards) or 4s(Women who are... d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:01 PM
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I'm genuinely asking, though: How is that rude or degrading? I don't get that. You can have your opinion, calm down. I'm trying to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:22 AM
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Your original post literally read off as 'I learned she had sex with like 8-15 guys. I've slept with two people. I broke up with her'. Like that should very obviously read off as really rude and degrading I really don't get this. I read the OP too and I thought it was perfectly fine. He's simply stating 3 simple facts: She's slept around a bunch. He doesn't do that stuff. He broke up with her. How on earth is that rude? Does he need to extensively reassure the audience that this woman is a free …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:09 AM
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Your partner could also lie to you about having an affair, being in debt, or having a criminal record. That's not a reason you shouldn't ask or have criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:02 AM
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I'm pointing out that your original statement: I do think that breaking up with someone over their partner count could be slut-shaming is completely meaningless in light of what you've mentioned here. You aren't talking about the actual action of breaking up with somebody, you're talking about the possibility that somebody might do it for malicious reasons. That's true for everything in the world. It's a meaningless distinction. For all practical intents and purposes, you agree that breaking up …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 11:59 PM
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What you're describing isn't really "breaking up" as much as it is "wanting somebody to be miserable". In the scenario you describe, the breaking up in't a problem, the maliciousness towards her is. By that logic, anything in the world can be slutshaming because of some motivation behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:21 PM
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You read his comments
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:54 PM
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You have made the decision to have a standard that a vast majority of women either won't fit or will think is deeply weird, so youre having relationship problems. I'm not sure where you're getting this idea. Original OP mentioned he had 2 partners, so he's presumably not expecting her to be a virgin, just a lot less than 8. I'm guessing here, but I suspect OP is somewhere in his twenties, in which case 5 or so partners is average, and 3 is below average but not unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:36 PM
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I really appreciate your viewpoint! Non-trads (both sexes, but my sample is mainly made up of women because I rarely feel comfortable talking to men about sex irl) often think I'm crazy or even stupid for not wanting an experienced man since they're (allegedly?) better in bed. I've never been called "judgmental" outright, but I feel as if it was kind of implied. I'm really interested in this part, because as a man I've never experienced the female version of these kinds of conversations. From a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:23 PM
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If slut-shaming includes breaking up with somebody because you dislike their sexual history, then any argument that 'slutshaming is bad' or 'we need to stop slutshaming' is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:05 PM
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I can pretty much guarantee that I would probably get just as much crap as he did Would you say you get this negative reaction from men or women? Interestingly enough I have witnessed women like me getting similarly shamed on RPW by male mods Heh. Not surprising to me. People hate being judged negatively, and will try to argue with you over it. You do your thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:53 PM
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I do think that breaking up with someone over their partner count could be slut-shaming Doesn't that completely dilute the meaning of slut-shaming? You can break up for any reason you want, so that means some forms of slut-shaming are fine. At that point, the meaning of slut-shaming is lost. I'll see if I can get the AITA OP in this thread to answer some questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:37 PM
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In truth the only men I've met who didn't care at all were man whores. I would agree with this sentiment. But it seems less and less acceptable for men to express their preferences on this topic. That thread was a really good example. From your post, I assume you are a woman? I'm curious what you and/or your social group would say to a female version of OP. I feel like there wouldn't be this negative judgement, but perhaps I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:31 PM
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I'm a little bit confused. Is it the ex-girlfriend, the OP, or me who is obsessed with approval? I didn't get the sense that he was posting to find approval. It seemed more of a "Is everyone around me mad? Am I the only sane person left in the world?"-type of post. Which I guess is the same reason I'm posting here. Seriously, is the majority opinion nowadays that men can't set standards? Has the world gone mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 03:51 PM
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Wow. It's almost as if modern culture and gender relations are horribly unhealthy and leading to toxic relationships by discouraging healthy masculinity and encouraging toxic female behaviour under the guise of 'empowerment'. If only anyone was telling us about this!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 03:56 PM
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This actually made me physically sick. The horrible act of stabbing him, the disgusting nature of the selfie, and the absolutely appalling, heartwrenching lack of any empathy makes me feel genuinely ill. The idea that anyone can look at a man sitting in a pool of his own blood and not have their heart break with empathy is... I don't have words for it. It disturbs me to my core. edit: Olga was arrested on suspicion of “exceeding justifiable self-defense” but was soon released. She signed a note …
/r/MensRights29/10/18 12:20 PM
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But that's my whole point. I think this impression of lazy and disorganized comes from simply not listening to him about what he cares about. I've seen this predominantly from women rather than men, because men assume they don't understand women, while women assume that they do understand men, and the men are just being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 06:12 PM
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Of course that's happened to me, but I think it's a terrible idea to assume that automatically. I think you should assume your partner to be competent. If their actions suggest that they don't care about something, you should assume they don't care, unless you have very clear evidence suggesting the opposite. For example, if your partner has been talking for weeks about this concert he's going to and he seems to have forgotten about it on the day of the concert, then it's a good idea to remind h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:56 PM
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I know it's a good comparison, that's why I used it to illustrate your position :) My issue here is this: my point of view is based on the assumption that he cares about his mother and agrees it's nice and good to send her a card. Not too out there as assumptions go It's not too far out there as far as assumptions go, but the problem is that you maintain that assumption even after he doesn't buy her a card. He shows that your assumption was wrong, at least partly, but instead of going "Okay, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:40 PM
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I genuinely don't agree with your point of view in this. If the guy can't be bothered to send his mother a card, then he doesn't care. And he has every right not to care. So why are you making it your problem instead of just letting him not care? Your point of view is based on the assumption that this is just something he should do, so by not doing it he's being irresponsible. I understand that point of view. It's a fine point of view when dealing with things that just aren't negotiable, like ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:01 PM
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How? If the guy can't be bothered to get his mom a card, that's his business. Let him do whatever he wants. You can't make that your own problem and then complain that it's your problem. I think you're saying the man has to do what you want him to do (send his mom a card) without you having to make him. But that presupposes that he should do what you want in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 04:38 PM
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your mother is not my problem. I just want to point out the contradiction between you and /u/Dominemm . --Laziness. Y'all can't be bothered to plan anything, or be organized, or remember that it's mother's day can you please be decent and pick your mom up a card. Ironic. One is complaining that your mother is not her problem but the other is making it her problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 04:14 PM
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I mean if you get stabbed, does it really matter if it was your neighbour or your partner or a random guy? Yes. The fact you don't realize the distinction is troubling.
/r/MensRights05/10/18 08:08 PM
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......What? I can barely extract a coherent sentence out of your post. What on earth are you asking? TRP exists to teach men how to sleep around. It therefore attracts people who just want to sleep around a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 01:37 PM
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Of course this happens all the time. That's what makes it a good analogy. I'm not suggesting that growing up in this context is a bad thing. It's not. What's a bad thing is the mistakes people make before they grow out of it. Men friendzoning themselves in the hopes of getting the hot girl, women sleeping around with hot guys in the hopes of dating him. These are the same mistakes, just reversed. Both have similar consequences though, but women don't seem to like that as much. If you know a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 03:37 PM
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This is probably where male and female minds just don't understand understand each other In very generalized terms, men give relationships to get sex and women give sex to get relationships, so to better understand the other side, just reverse sex and relationship: Imagine a guy who was so infatuated with a hot girl that he willingly friendzones himself to get a chance to be with her (in his mind). A beta orbiter, in RP terms. This guy doesn't give you a second glance. He spends several years do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 11:37 PM
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They see Father figure as being insulting as women see "whore/slut/plate" as insulting. I think this is where you're misunderstanding the RP viewpoint. It's not that being a good father/husband is an insult to them, it's that being a good father/husband but not a good one-night-stand is an insult to them. It's saying that you are good enough for her if she's had her fun and if you stick around and provide for the family for the rest of your life, but you're not good enough to just have sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 11:01 PM
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Would a woman ever prefer alcoholics and leave the relationship when they sober up? That makes ZERO fucking sense to me whatsoever... That's like the definition of codependency. Yes, that is a thing. It 'makes sense' in the sense that these people need someone with big problems around because it abdicates them of responsibility over their own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:38 AM
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I mean, if your dad was shitty, then wouldn't it inspire you to get a non-shitty partner? No. In order to want a good partner, you first need to learn what a good partner acts and looks like. You learn this during your development as a child, when you aren't smart or experienced enough to recognize your parents as severely flawed. The model of manhood (or womanhood!) you're presented with is the one you internalize as normal. You can undo some or all of this later in life, but it requires a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 09:30 AM
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You know it's okay to spend the night alone, right? That's not something to desperately avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 03:09 PM
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Graph 1, "Stable marriage" means that the person surveyed is currently married and has been for 5+ years. It's not a guarantee that they won't get divorced in the future, but it definitely excludes most short-term marriages. Also, if the answer is "No", that includes both divorced people and never-marrieds. edit: and <5 year marriages. Graph 3 shows the chance of first marriage ending in divorce. Quite a different statistic, but I can see where the confusion comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 03:04 PM
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I agree. I just googled for some quick graphs because I can't be bothered to research all this shit again just because nobody else here does any research. They're not high quality graphs, and I can't guarantee that the specific graphs I linked are 100% accurate, but they are roughly in line with what I found when I actually researched the topic, so I felt comfortable enough posting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 02:54 PM
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God, I can't stand this sub most of the time. It's just people spewing opinions with zero facts to back them up. Here are some actual statistics: Stable marriage rate is negatively correlated with number lifetime sexual partners Infidelity is correlated with number of lifetime sexual partners Divorce is correlated with number of lifetime sexual partners Another summary graphic These things aren't down to opinions. I mean, is that "a lot?" Yes, jesus christ how is that even a question. That is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:09 PM
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Just post the link. We want to see what's on them to judge for ourselves.
/r/MensRights14/09/18 07:41 PM
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Kids, especially young men, should have entire classes in this. Both young men and young women should. If anything, women need it more than men, because (most) men are forced to learn it eventually.
/r/MensRights14/09/18 02:09 PM
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"Clothing is male oppression" I chuckled. I would not be surprised to see that written unironically somewhere.
/r/MensRights14/09/18 02:05 PM
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It might be a good idea to drop the postcode requirement. People would probably feel a lot more comfortable if they don't have to fill in any personal information. You could simply replace it with picking your constituency on a map on the website, and filling in the postcode yourself on the printed paper. Just my thoughts.
/r/MensRights05/09/18 02:35 PM
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This is true, and it skews the divorce numbers, however it should be noted that second and third (possibly fourth) marriages often also have kids, so the kids numbers are less skewed.
/r/MensRights25/08/18 09:13 AM
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Do those numbers include children living with mothers who remarried or are dating? I couldn't find a clear answer on there. It matters, because living with a stepdad and living with your biological dad are not the same, developmentally.
/r/MensRights15/08/18 07:21 PM
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I used to be subscribed to MensLib. Although I disagreed with their views on feminism, I thought it was at least good to have a faction within feminism looking out for the wellbeing of men. I changed my mind about that sub over a longer period of time, but the last drop was their post about the Aziz Ansari debacle. I won't waste my time digging it back up, but the gist of it was "The Ansari story is proof how easy it is for us men to sexually assault someone. We need to be even more gentle with …
/r/MensRights01/08/18 05:32 PM
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I never get why people are so opposed to Jordan Peterson, and I guess I don't really get your own criticism either, though it at least treats him more fairly than the feminists. The main thing you need to understand about Peterson is that almost every thing he says or believes about society is based on statistics. When he says women would be happier working at home, it's based on statistics that female happiness has been steadily declining since the 70s. No such trend is clear for men, which is …
/r/MensRights01/08/18 04:52 PM
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Yeah, no. For the vast majority of human history, children did work around the house or among the tribe. That is not mutually exclusive with involved parenting. In fact it's a part of it. Of course playing with other kids and going places is also a part of it. I'm not advocating helicopter parenting here, but if you think raising children properly doesn't require serious work, intelligence, and attention then I feel sorry for any children you might have. You simply cannot drop your children in d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:54 PM
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Not everything important in a society is measured by monetary value. I can't stand the idea that redirecting intelligence and hard work away from raising children properly and towards earning money is somehow an undeniable benefit to the society. It's not. It's just boosting the economy right now at the cost of ruining society in the future. This is not a comment on the original OP's question, but I just wanted to get that off my chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:35 PM
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You're not making any sense. I'm saying that their benefit to society is the same: Nothing. You seem to agree with that. And I'm pointing out that despite that, one is seen as lazy and pathetic while the other is merely seen as artistic, crazy, or extreme, but not lazy or pathetic. Why? If their benefit to society is the same, why are they seen differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 08:16 PM
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I don't think that's true. A man living in a hut in the wilderness, doing nothing but painting landscapes all day, just for his own enjoyment, is just as much of a benefit to others as a shut-in gamer, but they are not seen as equals. Benefit to others is not a distinguishing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 07:02 PM
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Why? If videogames make one man happy, and travel makes the other happy, why is one of them 'weak' and the other not? Why do videogames not count as a passion but something else indoors, say painting, does? Neither one of them is really productive for society, neither involves physical exercise, and neither earns him money (at least in this example), so why is one worse than the other? I think it's because we are hardwired to judge any man who isn't working, much more so than women, and video ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 06:09 PM
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possess a crippling lack of ambition or ability to develop and achieve life goals like career or general future. What does this mean? If a man inherits 10 million dollars and never has to work again and chooses not to work anymore, is that unacceptable? Does a man need to work to not be weak? What if he didn't inherit this 10 million, but earned it with one clever business that he built up in a few years and then sold?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 03:20 PM
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A lot of people write this off as just being 'attractive', which makes it a gender neutral thing, ignoring that being attractive is far more useful and lucrative for one gender.
/r/MensRights19/07/18 02:12 PM
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I like this. A disproportionate amount of charity work is aimed at women, this is a good charity for MRAs. Plus it helps (veteran) men with mental health issues, which is a grossly overlooked problem.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 03:29 AM
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Again, like I said, this is just an argument about semantics. We're arguing over the meaning of the word beautiful. You say this is how people use the word "beautiful" but I just don't experience that. I admit people use the word like in your first and third example, but I disagree that you can extrapolate that to humans, and I never hear anyone use the word beautiful in the way you do in your second line. Wonderful, sure. Amazing, sure. But beautiful? No. And to be honest, I don't want to. Why …
/r/MensRights18/04/18 08:29 PM
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Someone has come across me and thinks I look beautiful. I'm grateful for that every day, and remembering that I'm not beautiful by any intersubjective measure reminds me how wonderful it is to have found that person. What I'm trying to say is we need to be able to find our outer beauty I don't know what that actually means. What does it mean to 'find beauty'?
/r/MensRights18/04/18 06:30 PM
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The problem with this is just semantics: You are using the words "beauty" and "beautiful" in ways that they just aren't used in normal speech. "My girlfriend's a beauty." "Look at him. Isn't he beautiful?" "This is a beautiful work of art." "The view from up here is beautiful" We don't use the words beauty or beautiful to describe 'inner beauty' unless we're describing someone who isn't conventionally beautiful. That's patronizing, insulting, and it conflates inner beauty and outer beauty. They …
/r/MensRights18/04/18 06:12 PM
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Of course they deserve to love themselves, but calling a burn victim beautiful reinforces the idea that beauty is what gives them value. It's not. Unattractive people still have value as people and value to society. By telling them they're beautiful you're implicitly saying that that's what matters. And because they know they're not beautiful, this is ultimately just hurtful instead of helpful.
/r/MensRights18/04/18 11:21 AM
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I love the phrase "Exposure is what you die of when you can't pay rent."
/r/PussyPassDenied18/01/18 10:46 PM
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