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| – | Why are there never forums of people trying to decode men in the same way people try and decode womenYou think women will be more honest about things like this than men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 08:13 PM |
| – | Why are there never forums of people trying to decode men in the same way people try and decode womenMen are far simpler than women and men will actually tell you the truth when you ask them things. With women, there is a way stronger degree of impression management than for men. women will quite often say things because they don't want to be viewed negatively where how they honestly feel is often not spoken publicly. Men are far less complicated than women. I don't think we as men are that hard to understand for anyone who spends any effort actually trying to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 03:15 AM |
| 2 | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?That makes sense. I am well over 6 feet and dating a woman a foot shorter means I have to drop very low and she has to get on her tip toes to make a kiss happen. Not exactly the easiest thing. Major height difference also makes shower sex logistically nearly impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 08:07 PM |
| – | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?I've probably asked this to well over 100 women. I guess there is a first for everything. Very curious, what is it about short men you like better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 06:55 PM |
| – | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?I should have worded what I said more coherently. I meant that women want a guy who is a good partner only if he meets the other qualifications I mentioned such as wealth, height, looks. My point was that this seems to be rarely presented this way. The women my age (over 30) who are not successful will say things about not being able to find a man who is worth having while she conveniently leaves out the details they will only consider these guys who ALSO are the tall, good-looking, successful t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 03:04 AM |
| – | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?Man will at least be honest and not present it as something it isn't. Every 30 something single woman I know professionally and personally who cannot find a husband has the same problem, they want a man who is way better than she is. The problem is these women are entitled and in denial where they just cope with nonsense saying that they are single because 'all men are trash' or 'there are no good men'. These women don't want a guy who is a good partner and all the other non-superficall stuff. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 02:38 AM |
| 4 | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?It is so pointless arguing this stuff. It is always the same nonsense mischaracterizing RP ideas and obscuring truths that when measured almost always are shown to be the case. It is well documented in studies that a man shown in pictures in the context of showing him successful or wealth will be viewed as much more attractive than when that same guy is shown in some context without these indications. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 02:21 AM |
| – | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?People go with who they are attracted too, it just happens to be that with few exceptions and everything else being equal women would rather have the taller guy over the shorter guy, the better looking guy over the uglier guy, the more fit guy over the fat guy, the more financially successful guy over the poorer guy. I have asked over 100 women in my life if they would rather have a 5'9 guy or a guy who is tall like 6'3. Most will say explicitly that they want the 6'3 guy. Some say they don't ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 02:18 AM |
| – | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?Men don't determine what is desirable, preferences do. Most women want pretty much the same things with not than much difference. I have never met a woman in my life who has said she PREFERS a shorter man over a taller man. Maybe she will be just as happy with a 5'9 guy as she is a 6'3 guy, but when pressed further no woman has ever said if she had to pick one or the other with all other things equal she would choose the 5'9 guy. Its the same thing with looks, success, wealth, charisma. All else… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 02:14 AM |
| 5 | Shy and socially awkward women are as disadvantageous in dating as shy menThe only way it hurts is a numbers game where not being involved socially limits exposure to potential options. For men this matters because men are usually the ones who have to take the initiative to ask a woman out. I think what destroys OP argument is dating apps. Women can get many matches on dating apps as long as they create a profile and use it. This is perfect for introvert women who don't want to meet people in person or socialize in groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/25 08:34 PM |
| 2 | The idea that 'good and attractive men are snatched off the market quickly' is another just-world fallacy. The fact that divorce rates are highest for people in their 20s is the biggest proof.Data makes it clear guys on apps are much more willing to like women who aren't just in the top 15%. Below average women get some options on these apps while average guys get close to zero is what has been seen. I agree that the attractive women are likely to get what they want if they have reasonable expectations. The average to below average women who want amazing men they in no way compared to, are extremely unlikely to get what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:53 PM |
| – | The idea that 'good and attractive men are snatched off the market quickly' is another just-world fallacy. The fact that divorce rates are highest for people in their 20s is the biggest proof.If even a third of women, I think it is definitely higher than that, are looking for the top 5% of men that means 33% of women are trying to get 5% of men. If all of these men were willing to commit instantly to anyone it would still mean 28% of women are not getting a relationship with a guy they want unless they are sharing him. Unless these far more numerous women substantially lower their expectations, most cannot get men because of the mathematical impossibility of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 09:06 PM |
| 2 | Women's attraction is relative, Men's attraction is absolute.I have witness that many times where women who were attractive and desirable going after dudes whose lives were a train wreck. The guys usually were decent looking, but the details of their lives clearly painted a picture of a dude who didn't have things together and wasn't a stable or reliable person. These women would have had options and the allure of getting an attractive guy who was a chaos machine seemed to overtake the allure of getting a different attractive dude who was stable and depen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 08:46 PM |
| – | The idea that 'good and attractive men are snatched off the market quickly' is another just-world fallacy. The fact that divorce rates are highest for people in their 20s is the biggest proof.There really isn't this endless pool. People can debate how prevalent hypergamy exists for women searching for the top few percentage of men, but there is still far more women wanting this small pool of men than the number of men available to fill that demand. Some attempts to quantify destruction of likes on dating apps have claimed that 95% of likes women give to men are going to half of men, meaning that the bottom 50% of men (half of men) are sharing a combined 5% of total likes. If true, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 08:31 PM |
| 11 | The idea that 'good and attractive men are snatched off the market quickly' is another just-world fallacy. The fact that divorce rates are highest for people in their 20s is the biggest proof.Women are more interested in men who have achieved something or shown some level of accomplishment. Both of these are difficult to do at younger ages. Most men don't get to a high position until their late 20s at least due to school and time to make their goals happen. I don't think it is that 'good ones are snatched quickly'. I think society has this delusion that all women can get some amazing man. Call it hypergamy or whatever, it simply isn't true because the number of women looking for top … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 08:25 PM |
| – | Women's attraction is relative, Men's attraction is absolute.In modern times it's the idea of women wanting a bad boy that she can turn into being a caring lover for her while still demonstrating these traits in other aspects of his life. The fantasy has the woman being so amazing and important to him that her impact causes I'm to change in life altering ways for her that no other woman previously was able to make him do. I think the idea is kind of insane when looked at logically in the sense that most people don't change that drastically, and women shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 07:54 PM |
| – | Men of PPD, if you only had two choices, would you rather date a woman from today (modern woman) or a woman from the 1950s (traditional woman, minus the racism)? Explain your reasoning.I just called it out honestly for what I have seen. I don't think modern women are more athletic overall, certainly are not in better shape with how 2/3 are at least overweight. Look at videos from the 50s or 60s that show large groups of Americans and they show basically no fat people. Maybe healthier overall due to better nutrition and medical care because of advances in medical science over the last 70 years. Possibly the opposite with how much junk food and processed food we eat today compar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 04:33 AM |
| – | Women's attraction is relative, Men's attraction is absolute.I think a more coherent way of putting it is mens preferences are simpler than women while women's preferences are more complex than men. Many times listening to women talk about what they want in men is some convoluted picture of numerous attributes that seem contradictory or generally not well paired together. An example is if a woman said she wants an ambitious man who is also easy going. Ambitious men are generally not easy going because if they were they would be to chill to be motivated to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 04:28 AM |
| – | Men of PPD, if you only had two choices, would you rather date a woman from today (modern woman) or a woman from the 1950s (traditional woman, minus the racism)? Explain your reasoning.Obesity is the biggest thing. almost no women were fat back then. 2/3 women over 30 are either obese or overweight. So many are covered in tattoos, nose piercings, blue hair, extreme feminist attitudes, anti-male ideologies are so common, mental health issues among women are shockingly high. a 1950s woman may not be perfect, but almost all of them avoided the issues I mentioned that are so common today. Go on a dating app and see how many women at 30 years old are simply not obese, not excessive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 04:25 AM |
| – | Men of PPD, if you only had two choices, would you rather date a woman from today (modern woman) or a woman from the 1950s (traditional woman, minus the racism)? Explain your reasoning.I respect your position. I would take a 1950s woman. Almost none were fat, none had tattoos, not many extreme feminists then, no nose piercings or red/blue hair, rarely any butch male hair styles. Just these things that were almost all women back then are rare today. 2/3 women over 30 are either obese or overweight. Women with full arm sleeve tattoos are very common today. Just the baseline seen of almost all women in the 1950s would put them well above the 80th percentile today with how much th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 04:20 AM |
| – | Men of PPD, if you only had two choices, would you rather date a woman from today (modern woman) or a woman from the 1950s (traditional woman, minus the racism)? Explain your reasoning.Woman from the 50s easily. Today 2/3 women over 30 are either overweight or obese. Don't know the percentages, but it seems like half the women I saw on dating apps had at least 10 or more tattoos, with many have entire arm sleeves. Women today often have shocking body counts and emotional baggage related to this. Many women today have strong feminist attitudes that quite often are blatantly mysandrist. Look at old videos of America from the 1950s. Women were not fat and dressed feminine and did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 04:18 AM |
| 3 | If men don't want to date women over 30 because they're jaded, bitter and have trouble pair bonding, wouldn't the same thing apply to men over 30?It depends. Guys who have had almost no dating success by 20 thanks to the ever increasing problem of hypergamy, will feel frustrated and upset that they struggle to even get any interest from their female equivalents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 07:31 PM |
| 2 | If men don't want to date women over 30 because they're jaded, bitter and have trouble pair bonding, wouldn't the same thing apply to men over 30?The difference is that it is far easier for men to be single with age for different reasons. A desirable women will have endless matches on the apps and will be pursued by men in her regular life at school, work, or her social life. Even desirable guys are not generally pursued by women where a woman will come up and make the first move and get things started. A woman may pursue but thats non the most common thing. My point is that a desirable woman will have have endless opportunities to find m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 07:29 PM |
| – | The Reason Men Don't Buy Dating Is As Bad For Women As It Is For Us Is Women Don't Tend To Date "Desperate"It's like how on dating apps lots of guys will just swipe right on everything to see what they match and if they get enough matches will filter those. Most guys don't have the luxury of having enough matches to be selective; if they were this selective they might have no matches. Women will never get this because it goes completely against their experience on dating apps. I've known many women who were definitely below average attractiveness who could still find dates and sexual partners, even i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 12:04 AM |
| – | For those who have dated a girl from a different culture before dating someone from your culture. Can you please answer my question..I dated women from religious groups that culturally were different. I have also dated someone from a different culture. I would say these situations are challenging. The biggest issue is how the families and friends of the girlfriend would make it obvious in many subtle ways that they would prefer someone who wasn't me. They wanted someone who was the preferred religion or from the same culture. It made me feel like I was fighting against something I could win. Nobody can change what culture the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 06:35 PM |
| 1 | What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?”I respect your perspective and wish it was more popular for people. I am a monogamous person as well. I think it's the constant belief by men and women that there is always someone better out there they can have that makes them miserable. People who think like that will never be content and realize what they actually do have. My comment was more about my observations of what I think most other people do in their circumstances. I know/met quite a few very attractive men and women, and I will say … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 10:20 PM |
| – | What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?”I think men are more honest than women in terms of telling what they want and would do. I think a majority of women would have not married the men they did if they (the women) were way prettier because they could have found a man who was better looking or wealthier. Does that make either one shallower? Most people, men or women, want the best they can get and act within the framework. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 08:09 PM |
| 3 | What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?”It's the stereotype. Men who can't complete with these guys don't like them and the women who want one of these guys and cannot get them, both can be resentful for different reasons. The guys who get outcompeted by them are bitter and don't always want to admit these guys are more desirable. The women who cant get them don't want to admit that these guys don't want them because they have better options. These attractive guys are getting negativity from both men and women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 08:07 PM |
| – | What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?”Its called having options A guy who has any options is less likely to want to commit to a woman compared to a guy with fewer options. That more attractive guy might be willing to sleep with a less attractive option without wanting more from her. A less attractive dude is less likely to do that because he is less sure of his ability to find someone else. Its the same with someone with a better resume looking for a job being less likely to take any specific job offer because that person can find a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 06:46 PM |
| – | Women gaslight men about their true sexual preferencesWomen generally care far more about impression management than men, and this leads to so much of the dishonesty and illogical framing of issues on their part. Its how women will sleep with a guy on the first date and then accuse him of 'using her' because somehow agreeing to sleeping with a guy who gave her zero commitment and deciding he doesn't want more makes her the victim. The truth is that most of these women knew these men were never going to see them as any more than an easy lay and he w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 03:54 AM |
| 15 | I dont care what anyone says. The red pill is saving livesChasing after women constantly is a waste of time just like playing video games for endless hours every week. Both are purely pleasurable activities that don't help men grow or learn new things that have deeper value. Guys I know who are very successful with women and spend so much of their time and energy with them, and pursuing them, are generally not very successful or happy. The sex is good, but it cant be the prime focus of what a guy does each day if that guy wants to be a complete human b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 10:35 PM |
| 4 | I dont care what anyone says. The red pill is saving livesRedpill works when it is used by men and women to understand how the world works and make sensible choices in that context. It teaches women that the dogma they are told about dating doesn't in fact work or likely to lead them to desired outcomes. It teaches men what kind of women and situations to avoid that will lead down bad paths. I think the part of RP that should be focused on more is the value of men bettering themselves and how this will uplift all parts of a mans life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 10:33 PM |
| 1 | I dont care what anyone says. The red pill is saving livesWell put | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Accusing me of moralizing is a convenient way to get away from the fact that I what I said was correct. Its women who will defend anything as long as it's about other women. A person who feels that she deserves a way better partner than herself is entitled. It is her feeling DESERVING of someone on a level she can't come close to achieving. Sorry the truth hurts your feelings | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Reread my response because I don't think you comprehended it If someone is only attracted so someone who is way better looking that herself, her actual issue is entitlement and delusion. If a woman is too entitled to accept the male version of herself, she deserves to be single. Nobody just deserves amazing things or an amazing partner just for existing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 12:55 AM |
| 5 | Feminists are just mad at TRP men for gaming the system that Feminism createdTraditional systems created a way for every woman and man to basically do okay and made it so the best men could not openly have 10 women. This is socialism for dating and marriage essentially and most people were better off. Feminists supported casual sex and the sexual liberation for women while not understanding that the things men value in women won't change. It created a situation where so many women end up ran through by 30 when their looks go to shit and their ability to ever get a 'high … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I don't think average dudes think they are going to get what Chad does. The dating experiences of average and below average men will let them know very quickly that they aren't Chad and where they actually stand. Unless these guys get these ideas from movies or stories, they know they are not special and women rarely if ever will just offer them casual sex. The tease guys have charisma they can get it, but that is not a high percentage of average dudes who are super charismatic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:48 AM |
| 2 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.It's like I said that desirable women get amazing guys and will never be interested in average guys. These desirable women are their own situation. The rules are different for these hot women. I have specifically put them in their own box for that reason. Average and below average guys are rarely having casual sex. When they do have sex it is usually with girlfriends, who are on their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:10 AM |
| 2 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I agree that is a major reason women are unhappy. they compare the men that commit to them with the men who they had casual sex with because their brain isn't realizing or accepting that the hot casual sex with Chad was all Chad would give her. The comparison is completely invalid but emotionally she still feels that way unfavorably comparing the average guy who was the best committed relationship she could get, with Chad. I agree it is a problem and a major reason casual sex is a terrible idea … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:01 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.As guys get older we look at women younger as more attractive than we did that age because we are comparing them to the less attractive women our age. Im over 30 and I can tell you an average 24 year old is way more attractive than an average 34 year old. Not even close. The 24 year old might be 'average' for her age, but she is more physically desirable than at least 85% of single 34 year olds. Orders guys value them more than younger guys because we have to compare them to our reference group … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I strongly disagree with the statement that Chads are not getting with below average women. I say that from my experience and guys I know who have done well with women. I have a few guy friends who have had sex with more than 50 women and they will admit that at least half of them were because they lowered their standards and slept with a woman they wouldn't date. I have had sex with women I would not date. I did it because the women offered sex quickly where I didn't have to put time, effort, o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:50 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I will point out that this attitude of 'give me someone way better than myself or I would rather be single', is about the most entitled attitude imaginable. It shows a very immature perspective an attitude. I think it is also that these women mentioned who won't date their male equivalents are the types that go bashing men saying that 'there are not good men', and 'men are trash'. These women say this because they would rather do that than take any responsibility for why they are single, and use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:44 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Men want that and quickly realize they are not getting it and adjust their expectations. Do attractive women want to be treated like a whore from a sugar daddy and have emotionally dead interactions with a guy just because he pays her or does she want a real relationships with a guy who will give her actually love and emotional fulfillment? I think most women would rather take an average guy who gives her that over being a prostitute for a guy with no emotional fulfillment. Its not like women wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:39 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.If a woman is a roughly 4/10 (below average) for attractiveness, not that pretty, and way overweight and she wants a guy who is 6'4, very good looking , successful, fit- she is very unlikely to find that this guy is willing to do anything other than have casual sex for her. She can hold out for as long as she wants, and she is very unlikely to find this guy willing to see her as anything other than a short term option because he has far better options of women who would be in a relationship with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Attractive women get Chads who give them their best. These women don't have to compromise. It is that the average or below woman would get an emotionally fulfilling relationship with an average guy who will commit to her and be a loving caring partner. Chad is hotter and will not show much concern for her outside of the sex they have. Most women talk about how it feels empty when guys only use them for sex without actually caring about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:30 AM |
| 2 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I think average men very quickly get humbled because they aren't going to get the hot women and their attempts will all end in failure that sends a clear as day message. They will never match on dating apps and she isn't going for him in an in person approach. Women it is different because there is a chance that even below average women can get matches from way more desirable women on apps. many of these guys will have sex with these women if it isn't too much work to get it. Many of these women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:26 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.i am talking more about equal desirability relationships. If the woman is truly stunning then that is a different type of situation. These women really have basically any realistic option short of multimillionaires or celebrities. These women can get men who do have it all. She can get damn near whatever she is looking for. I meant more women who are average to slightly above average (4-6/10) women who choose to have sugar daddies. If she wants to be treated like a prostitute over being with a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:19 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I still have friends who have far less education I have known for many years. I am not selective friends based on only those who have postgraduate degrees. Successful men can have morals and not be pieces of shit. Not mutually exclusive characteristics The third point is a real problem. I think it stems more from hypergamy and female entitlement of thinking she deserves someone better than herself; or her being in denial about her desirability. Many of the chronically single women I know have th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:15 AM |
| 1 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.It is true that less attractive women will do more. Less attractive women are far more likely to have sex on a first date, or have sex with you when you haven't taken her on a date. They rarely even seem determined to make you wear a condom either after asking when the last time you got checked was.. You are not fundamentally incorrect I guess. It's on a level where if she is consciously so unwilling to try because she thinks she could do better than the guy; that is a toxic mentality. I have da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:09 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I agree that sugar daddies are above average at least a few ways. Most have presence, are successful, and confident regardless of their looks or physical fitness. I don't disagree with that. These sugar daddy men are not guys that these women generally could have social acceptable relationships with because of either age or his success and social stigma that would affect him negatively. The women I have known when I was younger who had sugar daddies seemed to show a level of distain for the men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Why is it so rare for "HVM" to be childfree?Because HVM have many dating opportunities and are likely to find someone they want to marry and start a family with, or they are having sex and that gives more opportunities for pregnancy. Men who have no had sex don't tend to have as many children as guys having sex often. Birth control is not as effective as most people think and condom use seems to be below 50% of sexual encounters from data I have seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:57 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I don't think most men are expecting sugar daddy treatment or anything close to that. They just want a woman who is willing to put in even effort for the relationship. The sugar daddy is paying for a sex worker who is only doing that because she gets paid. A woman calling these guys 'sugar daddy' is psychologically her way of saying that she would not reduce herself to dating these men and doing this behavior of selling sex if it wasn't for the money she got out of it. She is saying 'I am better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:52 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.If a woman is just not going to care in a relationship because you aren't the man of her dreams, that reflects badly on her as a partner. Of course women prefer the best they can get. Doesn't mean she should be a shitty partner if she can't get some amazing guy That mentality is beyond entitled of thinking a guy her on level must put way more into the relationship effort and financially because she can't get with a Chad type who is way better than her. Women who have that mentality are trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:49 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I don't guys really care about how good looking their male friends are. Most men make friends within the social and professional circles they operate. Doctors hang out with doctors often and engineers usually know other engineers. Mentors are different because it is a roll only certain people will be good at. Being successful is generally a prerequisite because unsuccessful people don't know how to achieve things, thus do not have the knowledge or skills to be good mentors. It's like saying men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:44 AM |
| 6 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.It's women who are below average like a 4 or less only interested in guys who are 8-10. No shit these almost never work out to lead to an actual committed relationship. This isn't complicated. The women who argue against this make little sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:39 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Women constantly say things to this effect and it is the same misconception every time. Nobody is saying only date people you are not attracted to. People are saying that women should have REASONABLE STANDARDS of attraction and specifically, someone who is about her level of attractiveness. If a woman is below average prettiness 5'5 and weights 250 pounds and only wants a 6'3 guy who is in great shape and amazing looking- that is a sense of a high level entitlement. In that case, she feels entit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:37 AM |
| 2 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Looks are largely genetic and can only the best skin care and treatment can only go so far. A good haircut only can elevate looks so much. There is not skin care that can change bone structure of a weak chin or a face with low symmetry that is viewed as unattractive. Also height that is a huge deal for women is something no guy has any control over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:32 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.I think most men just want reciprocation in finding a woman who values them like he values her and is willing to put equal effort into the relationship. They are asking for her to put what what they do. That isn't arrogance wanting an even exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:28 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.You don't think the women telling you that have any ulterior motives for it? She is basically acting as a prostitute by dating sugar daddies that she would not be dating if they didn't give her money and buy her stuff. By telling you and others that all men her age are arrogant, she is trying to justify her behavior as 'their are no men my age that I can date who aren't arrogant so I went with someone who isn't. She is trying to take no responsibility for her shallowness and behaviors and by say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:26 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Your take makes no sense. How about she just avoids arrogant men because probably at least 3/4 men are not arrogant. Most men are not arrogant and the trait is very easy to pick up and can be avoided just as easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:20 AM |
| – | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.Nobody is defending abusive behavior. At least not reasonable people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:18 AM |
| 5 | Guys here seem to want to berate women to choose better but then coddle undesirable men.It is more about women whose standards are in areas that are illogical while she is willing to overlook other things. Most women will chase a guy out of her league who often don't value them and don't make the women happy, because he is tall and good looking like the person she wants while avoiding guys on her level who actually would give her an even relationship and value her. The women then complaining that the dude way more desirable than her just wants to have casual sex with her and not co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults.You chromosomes are not really an issue that is that close to my heart either way. My life will continue regardless of if you have a Y chromosome or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults.I agree. I am in my 30s and anytime I have been in online dating the absolutely maximum age i will put in filters is 29. That is the most I will tolerate for meeting someone. Most of the women making these arguments have that reality as you explain, where their dating options and desirability gets way worse. I know some of those women my age in my friend and social groups who are in their 30s frustrated that the dating options they had a few years in their 30s of men who would readily have a rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 07:05 PM |
| 1 | How are young men being disenfranchised?The caption isn't wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 06:46 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...You should support the charity! Maybe even join it because you might be able to identify things that help us get off the ground! This could be the beginning of a world changing event. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 06:35 PM |
| – | Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults.Thats why I was skeptical. I can't recall a dude ever saying the term 'imbalance' for dating younger women, or 'power imbalance'. That is straight out of modern feminist messaging. Good point about 'failure to launch'. I have only heard women say that as well. I would say from experience dating women 18-23 if you are in your 30s involves a lot of maturity issues and dealing with stuff that I as a man who was way beyond college was happy to be done with years earlier. Men talk about issues with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults.I was in a serious relationship with a 21 year old when I was 32. It's not so much as 'imbalanced' as it is frustrating dealing with someone whose life is based on things I was far beyond at 31. I think talking about power imbalances is a waste of time because that is more of an imagined issue compared to actual issues. These women have many dating options and she can replace you easily if she wants too; this idea that as an older guy you have so much power is greatly overstated. Date a college … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 05:51 PM |
| – | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Yes I am retarded, how did you know? I am the world's first person who is retarded to get an M.D. and treat patients for their retardation. Retards treated retards is also the charity I want to start. We will change the world forever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 05:42 PM |
| 3 | People who genuinely believe AMALT or AWALT are chronically onlineYou are the reasonable voice we need more of | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 01:34 AM |
| 2 | People who genuinely believe AMALT or AWALT are chronically onlineTaking every word literally is the first mistake. There is almost nothing that 'all' would accurately describe. I could say all the people who jump from thousands of feet in the air without a parachute will die. Usually that is the case, but a very small number of skydivers who jumped and had their parachutes not work at all and fell thousands of feet, ultimately did survive. My point is not take expressions for literal definitions every time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 01:34 AM |
| 8 | Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults.This post is typical post of a woman 30 or over who doesn't understand why men date younger women and in her ignorance makes false assumptions and attacks the men based on her not having a clue about what she is talking about. I am a college educated dude in my 30s with a doctorate who stays in shape and is doing fine in life. Most of my girlfriends have been 8 or more years younger than me. The reason I date younger women than myself is because IT IS WAY BETTER THAN DATING WOMEN MY OWN AGE. To … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistDating apps and social media are a game changer that were not there in the 1990s. The ability to connect with so many people from a phone was never there prior to 15 years ago I think back then meeting partners was harder because it had to either be in person or through a social network. Now in any larger city men and women can potentially match up with hundreds of thousands of other single people. women who get tons of attention on these apps feel like they have infinite options. This perceptio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 07:27 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...The women I was talking about that I know consistently make comments how they don't want to be alone and would like to meet someone. Those comments would indicated they don't want to be alone. I was just pointing to my experiences with women in my social groups. What they are saying and what they are doing don't match. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:18 PM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...If a guy can enjoy great sex with someone and it isn't taking too much time or effort, then why not take it if she just throws the offer at you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:16 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Even if the woman isn't stunningly attractive, the sex can be really good. I will say that sex with less attractive women is often better because they seem to be incredibly enthusiastic about it and are willing to try different things. Women see it differently because dick has no value to them because they can get it whenever with no effort. Vagina for men doesn't come instantly like that so our brains are wired to crave and value it more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:14 PM |
| 4 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Ego is a hard thing to overcome for a lot of people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 09:23 PM |
| 8 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Bingo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 09:22 PM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...That is manageable as well! Sounds like things are looking up. Try Cross fit. Gain muscle and lose weight. It's a game changer. Helps with confidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:40 PM |
| 6 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...That entitlement will just lead to resentment when the women don't get what they want, regardless of how unreasonable they are expecting someone way better than they are. It is only setting them up for failure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:37 PM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...BPD is kind of hard to deal with unless the person is in therapy dealing with it. Research shows that about 2/3 people with BPD can have symptoms reduction with enough therapy to do longer meet diagnostic criteria. At least you are working on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:28 PM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Its delusion but yes that is what they are doing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:26 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I have been out of the US and I don't think this entitlement of women is as prevalent there as the US | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:25 PM |
| 3 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I think you are absolutely correct. I get that in my work with difficult conversations. Patients don't exactly always want to hear the truth in what is causing their issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:25 PM |
| 12 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...You have to walk on eggshells and dance around the issue not using any sharp words or directly say what the problem is. In my example it could be saying to a woman that the guy she wants is like 8 in 1000 and this guy is going to be so difficult to find anywhere; so lowering her standards would make sense .This is partially true but the important point being left out is that even if she found this guy he would be very unlikely to choose her because she isn't on his level and he has many clearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:57 PM |
| 7 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Which is the women who get emotionally hurt feeling connected to this desirable man while he sees her as a casual option that he is not going to advance beyond that. The truth is that a lot of women would rather be breadcrumbed by some very attractive guy than meet a guy on her level who would value and treat her very well. To protect her ego of admitting that she went for someone who had better options than her, and why he didn't value her very much, she then says how he used her and is an assh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:54 PM |
| 19 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I think the difference is men are far more willing to accept an equal relationship than women are. Ask most single guys what they want in a woman and it's not a shopping list of things that eliminate 90% of them very quickly. I see with so many women I know who are chronically single but want to meet someone. Many of them will date someone extraordinary, meaning way more desirable than she is, while the women will otherwise remain single rather than date her approximately equivalently desirable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:50 PM |
| 23 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...You cannot tell most women these things even if the truth is obvious and very detrimental to her finding what she wants. Try telling a chronically single woman in your social group who has struggled with dating that she is going after men way out of her league and they either are not interested or just want casual sex with her, as a reason for why she is so miserable in dating. I can tell you from experience that the conversation will never go well. Her ego will lash out at you for implying that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:45 PM |
| 13 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I have seen tinder profiles of someone of my guy friends who do really well in dating. Guys who are good looking and doing well in life generally. Some of the matches are attractive but a lot of them are average or below average women. I am talking below average women where if a couple saw him and her out to dinner on a date they would be wondering why he is with her because he is so much better looking and more desirable than she is. That massive disparity and unlikeliness of it working out doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:42 PM |
| 16 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I think it is more of people who either feel entitled to a partner better than him or her, and thinking that you are better than you are. It is a woman who is a 4-5 who thinks she is a 7-8 and wants a guy who is a 9+. I know many single women in my social groups who fit this description. The are looking for top 5% men (or higher) and are in denial that they compared to women their own age around maybe about average. This complete lack of awareness of how desirable they are leads them to think me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:39 PM |
| 7 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.Your point is maybe the best on this post. If he doesn't view a woman as relationship material, nothing she does or doesn't do is going to change that. That is kinda of the cruel truth of it. At least by making any guy wait 4 dates or until they are dating exclusively, women can find out if the guy values her beyond the sexual because players are not going to that effort for a woman he only views as a sexual option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.There is more than just sex with women. Not a ton of women on apps have a personality that says relationship material. Most I have struggled to have engaging conversation with where they come across as someone who I would really enjoy talking and spending time with beyond just the sexual. Your strategy won't work because women on apps are going after the 20% most desirable men most of the time. A woman not on that level who is chasing that guy and offering sex as bait to get him is rarely going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.Your strategy will fail most of the time. If he has 10 women who try this strategy where they use sex to try and get him interested, at the least 9 of the 10 women are going to be disappointed, and that is if he is even willing to give a relationship to his favorite of the 10. I have been in this position a few times where a woman I was messaging and not overly interested in enjoyed our conversation and offered sex. I slept with them and it didn't go anywhere beyond us sleeping together a few ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:29 PM |
| – | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.That rarely works for women because it is very likely not going to lead to anything other that her being a hookup or friends with benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:25 PM |
| 3 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.A lot more times it doesn't happen like that. Most of the women I have met who sleep with guys or myself on the first date are not exactly the types that are relationship material. Lots of these women have rosters and are more thrill seeking than relationship oriented. Women with secure emotional connections often don't sleep with guys immediately because want to feel a sense of connection to him beyond what can be felt the first date. Her waiting more than 1 date will help filter guys who actua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:22 PM |
| 10 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.By not having sex with him immediately and him staying, you were able to see that he wasn't just looking to get laid, he wanted to date you and see if a connection could be made beyond sex. In the modern dating age women should not be sleeping with guys immediately. Beyond risks of STDs and pregnancy, there is no other way to tell what guys will actually want to date and maybe progress towards a relationship and guys who just want to sleep with a woman and have no desire for it to go beyond that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:18 PM |
| 7 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.OP advice is absolutely horrible here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Telling a man he'll have to wait for sex because you don't want to get "played" by him is a bad idea.This post is ridiculous and terrible advice. There is a very effective way for women to separate the men who want to date her seriously and the men who just see her as a sexual option; not have sex with the guy immediately. If a woman makes a guy waits only 3 or 4 dates before sleeping with him, it will filter out all the fuckboys and guys who only want to sleep with her. That is what women have to do to find out their real dating options and it is extremely effective. A fuckboy isn't going to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 08:15 PM |
| -1 | I'm starting to think that finding a relationship is dependent only on your luckThe first step to misery in life is to always thing you are victim of circumstance where you have no control over outcomes good or bad. This is called 'external locus of control'. It is thinking that you can do nothing to affect parts of your life where outcomes are just determined by things you cannot control. Obviously it is easier to meet women if you are 6'5 and great looking compared to not good looking dude who is 5'7. That doesn't mean you will be single forever, or that you will never be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 01:27 AM |
| – | Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamicsMy last 4 relationships have an average age gap of 9 years. I am not an old many either. I am in my 30s and have had no issue dating women in there early to mid 20s. Many guys I am friends with have a similar age gap trend in their relationships. I would even say dating 25 year olds is easier now than when I was 25. I am not rich either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 11:47 PM |
| 3 | Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamicsThat is not what is usually happening. It is far more often a guy with options who is 33 is dating women who are around 25 year olds for about a 8-10 year difference. These age gaps are almost nothing and most people won't complain about them. Guys 45 dating 20 year olds is rare unless the dude is wealthy or very good looking or has status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 12:51 AM |
| 4 | Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamicsI lose brain cells reading the comments of these articles with so many of the women claiming they are getting tons of attention at 30. It is just ridiculous having in denial women saying things any reasonable person has seen and knows is a load of shit. Unless a woman lost over 100 pounds or moved to an area with far more people, there is hardly a woman anywhere who will get more attention at 33 than she did at 23 from men who think of her as more than a casual good time. Saying otherwise is lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 12:50 AM |
| -4 | Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamicsWanting to bang you is not the same as wanting a relationship and willing to commit. So many of the women over 30 I know are having way more issues finding partners over 30 than the women I have known who met their husband prior to 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 12:46 AM |
| – | Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamicsAttention of 'wanting to bang you' is not the same as 'attention of wanting to date and potentially have a relationship'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 12:45 AM |
| – | Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamicsNobody used the word 'product' but you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 12:44 AM |
| – | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failThe love for Mangione is bizarre. Women are lusting after the dude like he is a stunning handsome movie star. I won't defend Untied Healthcare as a corporation or their CEO, but murder in cold blood isn't exactly how a peaceful functional society gets by. We are not Russia or China where you either 'fall' out of a 15 story window randomly or just disappear forever to some 'camp' if you upset the wrong person in the government. The most shocking thing about the Luigi groupie club members is how t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 12:09 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failI guess 2 people who really don't care about fitness and will never push each other to lose weight no matter how bad it gets. I am shocked seeing people out and about. Just to be not overweight would put either man or woman above average assuming all else is pretty normal. 2 out of 3 American adults are overweight and it is estimated that the obesity percentage is in the low 40 percents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 03:03 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failExactly People like better looking people so we tend to look at better looking people more often and that shapes our perception of 'normal'. Most people are not extraordinary either in a good or bad way. Most people are average or not too far away from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 03:01 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failThere is a level that can incorporate human biology without getting to biological determinism that discounts all aspects of choice and free will. I am not a hard biological determinist. I think that most social constructionist frameworks go too far the other way and act like anything biological is a myth because 'we are beyond that now'. It's like I said with TRP being like spice, with evolutionary psych also- can't ignore all of it but don't take too much either. The naturalistic fallacy is peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 02:55 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failThat is a great point. Most of people we compared ourselves to are not representations of the average person. Most characters in movies or shows are definitely way above average in attractiveness. Most people on youtube are above average in looks also. Social media has made people think that some extraordinary version of people is normal when when they are actually seeing is a very small sample of people at the very far end of the bell curve for one or more characteristics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 10:19 PM |
| -4 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failYou probably are not. Even neurodivergent people can learn social skills that will greatly increase their ability to interact socially in all contexts, especially dating. It isn't the easiest thing to do and will take time and work. Most ugly people still do find other people. Go to a local shopping center (if you are in the US) and look around at couples. Not all of them are good looking and many of the men are not tall or stunningly handsome. There is hope. Going down the black pill road of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 10:17 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failThose people do and say what they do for personal attention and making money. So many of these 'life coaches' you see on instagram and facebook are grifters who are trying to make over the top views because they want to stick out and get likes and followers. These people are not about telling things that are logical or are likely to help people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 10:13 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failTRP is not as rigid as many of its detractors make it out to be, including OP. I would greatly disagree on the OP definition of TRP being a worldview that says if you aren't a narrow range of characteristics you are permanently screwed. I think the red pill is like spice you put on your food. No spice usually creates boring dishes that are not great. Drowning food in spice destroys the dish and overwhelms all other flavors. TRP is a good framework for men to get a basic understanding of how the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Men are so hypocritical when it comes to sex (or not having it)All the whores in the world is the answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.I am not spending my time to google literature search studies on media coverage and gender. I just don't have the time or care enough to do that. I think you are overly intellectualizing the immigration issue. American men here have very different goals and personal interests than someone coming here from another country. If there is not a benefit to us in bringing in another group of people, men generally will not support it when it comes at a cost to us, real or imagined. Most men can see the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 06:04 PM |
| 1 | How would you react if you found out your husband had a son/daughter from a previous woman that he was unaware ofKnew a guy who had a one night stand and found out 19 years later that he had a daughter when she found him on facebook and contacted him. At first he didn't believe it until the story added up and DNA matched up. The woman never called him and kept the pregnancy from him. She lived out of town from where he was so nobody he knew would have seen her or alerted him. This was also way before social media when this stuff was easier to keep secret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 05:42 PM |
| 2 | How would you react if you found out your husband had a son/daughter from a previous woman that he was unaware ofIt's a different ball game when someone finds ou for the first time that he has a child who is an adult that he never knew existed. I would be upset finding that out that the mother never contacted me or gave me a chance to be involved in the life of the child. I guess these things just happen sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 05:40 PM |
| – | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Because society is actually sensitive and CARES about when women and children are injured far more than when men are the victims. They have shown in studies that the media has a bias in reporting accidents and crimes based on the gender of perpetrator and gender of victims. When the gender of the perpetrator is male, media outlets are far more likely to mention the gender of the offender than if the offender is a woman. On the flip side, if the gender of the victim or victims is female, they are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Probably. According to her petting a bear is safer than existing around a single man, so it's not like there is any inherent risk. You cannot even make this shit up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:04 PM |
| 3 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.I am done engaging with you. You don't even address any of my points and have what you think are witty 1 liner responses that don't address what I am saying. Have a good rest of your night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:41 AM |
| 3 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Because that is where people usually drive and because most people aren't paying attention that close to home because they are on autopilot having driven the same drive an endless number of times. Yes I get the logic and the analogy. the problem is that the analogy doesn't track reality violent crimes with men, and you most certainly would not apply that same logic to female victims of crime. That is where your argument falls apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:31 AM |
| 2 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Most men actually won't because most men just don't care. It's this feminist indoctrination that all men are out to get women and how women are always the victims. If you can't find out how you are the victim, you clearly haven't tried hard enough because you sure are if a man is around! I am losing brain cells interacting with you and your idiocy. I try not to be a dick, but I don't think I have interacted with anyone in months who is as dumb as you. Blatantly mysandry, but of the most idiotic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:28 AM |
| 6 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Your response is too stupid and generic that it doesn't actually address any part of the question. You won't answer it because it will show exactly the bullshit double standards you possess. I would bet any amount of money you would never hold a woman who was assaulted sexually or violently (non-sexual) or murdered, responsible in any way for what happened regardless of how recklessly she acted. Your line is straight out of feminism 101 bullshit for people too stupid to think or apply reasonable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:17 AM |
| – | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Discuss biology: I have studied more of it that you could in 5 lifetimes. You don't even know the first thing about bears or animal behavior. Most men are not rapists or predators. Most men live their lives and are not going to bother a woman. Maybe 2% who are sociopaths will. The other 98% will not. Of course being a braindead feminist, you will think all men are just out to get you and 'harm your peace'. Now we are getting back to bears that you don't know the first thing about. Try your ideas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:12 AM |
| 5 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.You are the same person who will say that when any bad thing happens to men it is because men did something to deserve it, but if a woman is ever a victim of anything it is never her fault? Women are victims when they are victims but men are at vault when we are victims? Let me guess: If a man gets assaulted or attacked it's his fault, if a woman gets sexually assaulted or attacked it's never her fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Based on how you just use the term 'bear' without specifying the differences between types makes me think you did that because you don't actually have any idea that they will act differently, or that only 1 of the 4 types in North America will run away form a person without being shot or sprayed with bear spray. There is a reason you only try and fight off a black bear and not a brown bear. With a Grizzly you are beyond screwed because nobody can outrun one and fighting one off is basically impo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:46 AM |
| 3 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.You want to look up murder and violent crime stats? Men have consistently been for decades roughly 2/3 murder victims and a majority of violent crimes. This isn't my opinion, its just what the numbers are. FBI homicide chart showing men the majority of victims is pasted below. Here's an overview from google copied and pasted The FBI's National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) has data on the gender of victims of violent crime in the United States: 202248% of victims of violent crime were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:42 AM |
| 4 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Some journals article 22 years old from 2002 is not going to tell anything about modern crime statistics. Go look up FBI crime statistics that are up to date and tell the actual story to verify everything I said about murder rates and violent crime rates affecting what group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 03:11 AM |
| 3 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.They are not the same group is the very short answer. You assuming that anyone who has a penis would automatically have solidarity regardless of the infinite number of factors that make our interests different, does not make sense to me. It also seems strange as a way to show concern for men. Just look at how nobody addresses the issues in America affecting American men to keep the focus narrow and clear. Men have fallen behind academically at all levels compared to women and this gap is widenin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:12 AM |
| 3 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.And men are 7/10 murder victims in the US. I didn't say men are more likely to be sexually assault. Men are more likely to be victims of violent crimes overall (this includes sex crimes) and are overwhelmingly the victims of murder. You don't even know what the hell you are talking about yet attack me for shit you don't even understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:08 AM |
| 6 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.A bear is likely to run away... As long as it isn't a brown bear, grizzly bear, or polar bear, you will be fine.... I am guessing you are not a wildlife expert. Doubt you have a clue on anything actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:05 AM |
| 6 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.It affects American men and women. Men are more likely to be assaulted or murdered, women more likely to suffer sexual assault. Increasing either of these things isn't good. It isn't one issue or another when it affects both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:03 AM |
| 1 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldthis not that many my man. Unless you live in a town of a few hundred people, you can find other women who don't act like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:00 AM |
| 1 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldA small proportion of men that are unlikely to be interested in them, so saying 'I am not interested in a relationship', is her way of saving face and presenting the situation that makes others look at her more positively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 02:00 AM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldPeople internalize them as real, even if they are benign words just to be nice. Giving them a false perception of the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 01:58 AM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldHow many women are you talking that said that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 11:15 PM |
| 17 | Many men are fine with “misandrist” stereotypes as long as it targeted towards men they view as an out group.Your argument is logical if you don't actually think about the implications of what you are saying. Men are statistically far more likely to be murdered or a victim of violent crime than women. Yes, look up FBI statistics if you don't believe me. This means that if we let in people more likely to commit crimes, the people who are statistically more likely to be affect are American men compared to American women. If what you are saying holds true about immigrant women committing less crimes than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenYour attitude is like almost everyone who is so staunchly abortion that they refuse to even have their views meaningfully examined. Immediate defensiveness and attempting to delegitimize anyone who points out any flaw in your argument rather than actually listen to what was said. FYI I don't view women as 'objects to control'. Where you got that, I have zero idea. I was describing something in a way that is compatible with biology and anatomy. You doh't even want to have that discussion because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenWhat words would make you happier when describing neonatal surgery? It is a procedure whose effects are aimed at the fetus where access is gained through the anatomical features of the pregnant woman. Other than the necessary monitoring of the mothers condition, vitals, etc., the neonatal surgery is on the structures of the fetus and those explicitly about supporting the fetus such as the gestational sac, arteries and placenta, and so on. What words would you think are more appropriate and less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Redpill or any other similar content is pure griftHaving social skills and knowing how to communicate effectively are also huge. A very handsome guy who cannot hold a conversation is going to do really poorly with women. Being handsome is great until you bore the hell out of every woman with lack of social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Is a lot of this stuff an American cultural problem?I can't speak for Canada having spent almost no time there in my life. I can speak for many European countries, Asian countries, and Australia. Sounds like Canada has a healthier cultural attitude to dating if what you are saying is true. Based on what I have seen with women outside the US, I have no reason to doubt what you are saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenCarried on is different than what the goal and purpose of the procedure are. If someone fractures a leg and gets the fracture set, 100% of the effects of procedure are affecting the person. Same with medication to treat a disease. For abortion procedures, the woman is largely unaffected in the sense that the limited effects of the medication abortion, or surgical abortion, will not be major on the woman most of the time. For the fetus it leads to demise. I will make a comparison of abortion to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenI get the OP arguments while at the same time put forward the truth that fatherlessness is one of the biggest social issues in the United States that has horrible effects on the lives of the children who suffer its effects. Children without fathers have statistically way worse outcomes than children born to 2 parent families where each parent is investing and playing an active role in the life of the child. More likely to become teen parents, worse behavioral issues, worse academic performance i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenI always found the 'autonomy over their own body' argument to be a stretch. The abortion isn't substantially affecting a woman in terms of trauma or medication effects- the effects are exerted on the fetus that 98% of the time would become a healthy baby if not for the effects of the abortion. The effects of the abortion are affecting the fetus astronomically more than the woman who is pregnant. What I mean is that the effects of the abortion are primarily not affecting the woman. It could be ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenThe double standard is completely ridiculous. The pro-choice crowd (usually left leaning) will almost never say anything that in any way holds women at fault for their actions or assigns responsibility to them. I think that is a problem that blame is so often a 1 way street | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:31 PM |
| – | Is a lot of this stuff an American cultural problem?I think your mostly right about the dynamics present on apps. I matched with a decent number of women and talking or going out with some of them, I was amazed how many of them were mysandrists and had a decent amount of emotional damage from previous relationships. The number of these women who shit on men generally win casual conversation was shocking to me. Most of these women were at least above average physically and had degrees or above average paying jobs. I didn't even know what the term … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:20 PM |
| – | Is a lot of this stuff an American cultural problem?I think it is something about American culture. I have spent a decent amount of time outside the US and I can tell you women from other cultures don't act like American women. The women outside the US are far less overweight, less entitled, less shallow, and far more pleasant. This American woman attitude of being a 'boss babe' who is a hardcore feminist mysandrist is not something you regularly see in European or Asian women I have met. After seeing women outside of the US, the idea of dating A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:10 PM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldIt is considered rude, and that isn't helping anyone. I have seen too many social media posts of a woman who is mid or slightly above in every way, where her friends and other people comment how she is 'gorgeous' or 'stunning', when isn't anywhere close to that. We wonder why hypergamy and women with such entitled unrealistic dating expectations are so numerous. If women would be honest with their friends, it would probably do a great deal in not having so many women who think they can get a guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:04 PM |
| 1 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI agree with you that the aggregate quality decline is making people unhappy. My attitude is that people shouldn't expect what they are not bringing to the table. If someone is fit, that is perfectly okay not wanting a fat man or woman as a partner. Too often it is someone not close to being fit who feels entitled to someone who is way more fit, while not having any major things that bring value to offset that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 09:01 PM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI think many of these women are holding out for very desirable guys and instead of saying 'I want someone more desirable than me that I just cannot get', they will phrase it as something like 'I'm just seeing what comes along'. I say this as someone who sees too many single women my age who do this. If the man of their dreams came along and wanted a relationship, they would be ready to do it in a second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI've noticed that as I age. When I was an undergrad, I thought some of the women were pretty. Now a little older, I think most of the women in their early 20s are pretty compared to women my age (30s). I go on a dating app or even a party with my friends my age, most of the women will be obese or a BMI close to it. When I was early 20s very few women were fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:57 PM |
| 1 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldDepends where you live. If you live in California or New York, the income threshold to live a middle class life is so much higher than if you live in West Virginia or Alabama due to the lower house prices and lower cost of living. 80k in California gets you sharing an appartment with 5 other people. In Alabama that gets you house and some land with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:53 PM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI think a bit of it how people put themselves out there. Do these guys interact with women, do they have good pictures if they use dating apps, can they hold a conversation and be interesting to women. These things are very important. I think men and women overestimate what 'average' actually is. A guy graduating college is definitely above average with the gender deficit for graduates. The average woman is almost obese in terms of the BMI population bell curve due to 2/3 men and women being ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:51 PM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI might guess things like communication skills and vibe may not be the best. I doesn't matter how much more desirable you are than a fat women if she does not enjoy being around you because you have bad energy or don't hold a conversation. Even being more attractive than an obese woman, guys can't just say 'let's bang' and she just enthusiastically agrees. Women still want to feel good interacting with any guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:48 PM |
| 3 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldThey have shown this with men taller than 6 feet being more likely to be married than men shorter than that. Taller men have more dating opportunities and are more likely to marry as a result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:40 PM |
| 2 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldBut it is true more often than not. I would say the wives of my married friends are on average decently more attractive and desirable than the typical woman on Hinge or Tinder. If I swiped 100 profiles of women the exact same age I would estimate my friends wives are on average prettier than at least 75/100 of them That makes sense because guys would rather marry more desirable women and thus more desirable women have more relationship and marriage opportunities than less desirable women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:39 PM |
| 1 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldAlso it is a matter of expectations. The worst position to be in is to be someone of low to moderate SMV while expecting someone way above that. It is the restaurant with mediocre food that is charging exorbitant prices; those places don't tend to stay in business very long. Most of the cholerically single women I have known are in that category. Some are a bit above average yet expect someone who is easily 9/10 or more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:37 PM |
| – | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldI tend to agree with you. Most of the chronically single women I know who are 28 and older are chasing after top 5% or better men while having no actual clue that her SMV does not come close to that same level. It's mostly delusion on the part of these women. I have heard it from friends in social or work groups, or friends of my female partners, where they make unbelievable rationalizations for how they are actually prizes and theres just no good guys out there so that is why they are single. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:35 PM |
| 2 | The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating worldThe post is very accurate and people can reject it or try and delegitimize it, but it doesn't change that these concepts are true and based on a massive amount of evidence. Telling people not doing well in dating, especially women, these things will usually result in them being very unhappy and lashing out. Most of the chronically single women in know late 20s and older are guilty of many of the things listed here. They want the 1% of unicorns and have no concept that their SMV is nowhere close … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.Men are psychologically wired to think women are hitting on us when they aren't. This is evolutionary psychology where the cost of missing a potential reproductive opportunity is worse than getting rejected. Men see female attraction when it isn't there. The cost of missing actual female attraction is our genes not getting passed on when they could have. Evolution has made it so men are wired to avoid false negatives (when she is interested and we assumed she isn't). I don't think that makes wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 10:24 PM |
| 0 | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.That isn't the same thing as what I am talking about. You and your girl are in a relationship with clear positions of what you and her are to each other. In my example of the guy who acts nice attempting to get a woman into him and expecting her to be- he is setting up an expectation that has no clear positions and boundaries. How is the woman supposed to know that is the situation when he doesn't tell her? The 'nice guys' that do that are mentally creating a situation in their head like it is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 08:32 PM |
| 0 | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.But when the 'being nice' is being done with the expectation of getting something in return that is not told or reasonable to expect (the female wanting the guy romantically or sexually) it is niceness being done under false pretenses. That is the problem I have. They are not being nice for sake of being nice. It is expecting something out of it and being upset when they don't get it. That is not being nice in any real sense of the world, it is being fake because they see it as transactional for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?I disagree that most men are sexless because they are only interested in beauty queens when these guys are mid at best.. I am saying that most women are not interested in dating their male equivalent. Average women are not wanting men who are average. You see this shit all over movies and tv series where average unremarkable woman gets a guy, or multiple guys over the course of a show, who is clearly way more desirable and has way better options than her. Women actually believe this is real and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 07:21 PM |
| – | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.Some people are nice. I think most guys who act overly nice to women as a strategy to get these women to like them, meaning there is a specific goal to the niceness, are not being legitimate. they are acting like what they think will get them what they want. I was talking about a very specific type of person. I think most people are decent ini their nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 07:05 PM |
| – | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?These average men may want to date gorgeous women who are 9s and 10s, but they know it is not going to happen and don't try as a result. The average women who is a 5 often thinks she can get a guy who is a 9+ to commit to her. It's that girl in my example. I have been FWB with a few women like them and they all do the same thing to try and get a relationship. The men may WANT a stunning women, but reality will not give them that because that woman is about 100% likely to reject a guy who is a 5 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 12:04 AM |
| -2 | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.I have never dealt with that. I haven't been rejected that many times, but when I have I just apologized for wasting her time and that was the end of it. If a guy just takes the rejection well and walks away without approaching it again, things will be just fine. It's like anything else in life, failure can happen. If guys sit on the side and don't even try then nothing is going to happen results wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 11:39 PM |
| – | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?I think we are somewhat on the same page. I am saying that women who 4-5 s are very often interested in men who are 8-9s. She can get a guy who is a 5 to date and commit to her but she doesn't want that. She may be having sex with a guy above her level who is an 8 or 9, but she wants a guy like that to give her a relationship. I would argue that most of the women who are 5 and under who are sleeping with guys 8+ are doing so hoping these encounters turn into a relationship with one of these guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?I don't think these men get 1000 messages a week. Have a few guy friends that do great with women and they get maybe 100 matches a week, and they live in bigger cities. These men may get a lot, but not as many as these women. These very attractive desirable women are on a level that almost no guy who isn't a celebrity or rich, will say no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 11:16 PM |
| – | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?These women going after men above them are not generally looking for casual sex or FWB with these guys, they want relationships. They often feel used afterwards regardless of if she was upfront about what she actually wanted. She may get laid, but feeling used isn't good for anyone, regardless who is to blame. Men want a woman on their level for a relationship. That is the difference. The men want a woman on his level for a relationship unlike the women who are sleeping with better looking guys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?High value women at the park. For high value guys, meeting these women on apps is difficult just because she is so bombarded with matches that even a guy on her high level will have a hard time sticking out. Even very good looking guys can get over 50 matches a week, a great looking women can get 1000 if she is in a big enough city area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?The issue rarely discussed is what you are saying with how you can always get your foot in the door, women will use tactics they think will get a guy interested. Most of these situationships are a girl sleeping with a guy out of her league who she wants to commit and he won't because he is seeing other women, or he wants a better option to commit too. I've been in that position a few times where me and a woman are FWB and I say I don't want a relationship and she seems fine with it only for her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 10:14 PM |
| – | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?It completely happens like this. I will admit I have slept with women from apps that offered it after enjoying messaging each other. Many of my other male friends also have done that where they get involved with women and are not willing to give her exclusivity or commitment. I don't think this is a good thing. These women do become attached to these guys out of their league because these are men who are what they desire and hope for. These women will chase you. I noticed that women who initiate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?It's more about realizing the situation and not responding to it in ways that are not good for people. Men reducing their standards to sleep with women they would never date is not good. It means men will think that all low quality women who easily put out are the norm and that is all there is to get out of dating. This is emotionally damaging. Women who date and sleep with men way move desirable than them who will not give them relationships or meaningfully emotionally connect with them, will h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 10:01 PM |
| 4 | Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men?I tell my female friends to not sleep with a guy until the 4th date and you will find out 100% of the time if he is into you. No fuckboy is going to invest that much into a woman if he isn't getting what he wants out of it. Why don't more women do that? It is a great filtering technique and works almost all of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.Thats why I think these 'nice guys' are losers. They are too weak to even make a move and on the rare occasion they are, they think they 'earned' a date or hookup with this woman because in their convoluted minds, they put in the work and she is obliged to reciprocate. The ridiculous part of these men thinking that is how they don't realize this 'deal' they think is present where they be nice so the woman is romantically interested, was never even expressed to the woman because these guys are to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.Men and women both have the freedom to choice about how they want to date or sleep with. It isn't an 'injustice' that women (or men) want to sleep with certain people over others. You can say that men or women are unwise for choosing to date certain people over others, but I wouldn't call that an injustice. Nobody is entitled to anyone else when it comes to dating. Even if women choose 'evil men', that is their choice. It probably won't work out well but thats their choice to decide to do it or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:42 PM |
| – | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.These guys are acting out a part they think will work. By being the nice guy they don't have to make any decisive moves like asking a woman out or making it clear to her he is pursuing her romantically. By being 'nice' he can stick around in a way that will produce no risk because he hasn't made a move that she can reject of him. He hopes she will see him as worth pursuing because of all his supposed positive attributes. These guys are just fake and cowards really. That is why it never works for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:39 PM |
| – | Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy.Nice guys put on performances to be the part they think women want them to play. I don't know if these guys are 'assholes' as opposed to spineless simps. They are the guys that don't have the balls to make a move romantically or sexually with women so they just stand pat and 'be nice' hoping that she will show interest and make a move for him. These men will find out that this almost never happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:32 PM |
| 11 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsI think more and more the fantasy is becoming prevalent in terms of women thinking it actually is real. Social media has made it so people can see videos constantly that give a very distorted sense of reality, and particularly for women. I am routinely amazing with women I have known who will just lie to other women in ways that I can't even believe they are able to say with a straight face. Telling women who are not even average looking that they are 'stunning' and 'gorgeous'. That stuff is eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 09:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowthats not accurate for the US. 40% of adults are obese (2 in 5) and 2 out of 3 men are overweight. The percentage of overweight and obese men and women are way higher than what you put. It would be a lot better if your numbers were the real numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 11:55 PM |
| – | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowThese women really do want relationships out of it. I think most won't admit to themselves that they are just sleeping with guys more attractive than they are. They sleep with you hoping it turns into something else, and when it doesn't they cope and say they didn't want anything more serious anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowThe question that should come into play that usually doesn't is, 'how good is she'? It is all great and dandy to have high standards but the women who have these better also measure up themselves to this high standard they are expecting for partners. I have a few male friends who do really well on apps and the times I looked at their matches and the women messaging them, they were not on that level. Its women who are 75 pounds overweight who want guys who are in great shape, or women who have av… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowIll disagree that women will take less accomplished men, or will do so happily. I know too many women who are successful and educated and they will either no date someone with less education/income than them, or will only do so begrudgingly feeling like she is settling by doing so. Maybe if it is just physical and for looks, she might not care about his success, but thats a very specific context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowMost women don't want situationships or hookups most of the time. They end up there because they are going for guys out of their league who have other options and either will entertain women like her if they are getting laid straight up, or a situationship where he can get what he wants from her without giving much effort, or taking away from his other options. They get in situationships because it's guys out of their league who won't commit and she thinks this will make him feel connected to he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowYou nailed it exactly. I agree that at best she is a 5 or 6. She is probably going after guys who are 8+ who are not going to see her as worth taking out and spending that much effort. If she offers to sleep with them straight away, sure they will then get interested, but a guy on that level isn't going to wait 10 dates to get laid and still be interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowI know too many women in their 30s who are like that. They won't settle because they know their worth! At some point it becomes a ridiculous coping exercise of self-delusion. The psychology of it is how a woman who is single year after year can delude herself and others and say that she 'cant find any good men'. She is a prize, where it isn't her fault there are no good men she can find worthy of her. If she finally accepts the truth that her standards are too high for what she offers, she in he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowBut they don't. What happens that women won't say is them using sex as a way to get guys interested they are not confident otherwise would be. I have had a few women do that when they offered sex right away and wanted it to lead to a relationship. They also can say it while messaging them on apps where they either say it directly that they will sleep with you after a date, or just make it very obvious it is going to happen. I think that is their way of getting you on a date with them. They think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:11 PM |
| – | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowTheres something to be said for peace of mind. I have dated some of these women or been friends with benefits with them and in many ways it is kind of better. They are not so difficult and demanding like is so often present with very attractive women. The less attractive women are often happy to sleep with you after an enjoyable date, and sometimes just flirting with them will be enough to get them naked in your bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 11:03 PM |
| – | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowAnd around 2/3 are overweight. About half of women are either obese or a couple BMI points away from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 10:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowI think what most women think are 'low standards' are actually far higher than they realize. I have had this conversation with female friends and women in my circles who are single and looking for guys. Literally every time I do this it comes out to a shopping list of things the woman wants in a guy. I can't remember a single time of listening to the woman state what she expects where it didn't eliminate over 95% of single men from consideration. Height is usually top thing, then as much educati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 10:57 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.Thats not what I said. A woman blaming men for all her dating failures isn't about her having standards, it's about her not taking any personal responsibility for her previous failures. What are the chances that any person with bad dating and relationship experiences holds no blame for what happened? I think the answer is pretty close to zero. I don't go on second dates with these women. They show themselves as women who shouldn't be taken seriously because they lack any sense of responsibility … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/24 03:51 AM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.I will disagree on your take that many of the democratic party are to the left. that is why Harris was their choice of VP under Biden and immediately chosen as his replacement- she is the power fantasy that the left loves so much in picking a diversity candidate who fulfills their hierarchy of oppressed groups.. Biden said he would pick a black woman as his VP to shut up the far left of the party in 2020 who couldn't stop complaining about how horrible it was for an old white man to win the part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 11:35 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.The most extreme are, but most are not. It's like most things where the most extreme and passionate supporters of an idea tend to be the most vocal so the voices come across as unhinged representing everyone. TRP is okay as long as people don't take it 100 literal truth all the time. As a basic flexible framework that understands people are different and complicated, it is not that bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 09:36 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.Most people who believe in intersectionality and feminism will dismiss the concerns and issues of men because those idealogical frameworks in combination will only see men as privileged classes. Look at the conversation of men and suicide where middle aged white men have the highest rates of killing themselves. The typical response from feminists and those on the left is, "they just can't handle that they are losing their privilege". It is a complete lack of empathy or comprehension on any level… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 09:34 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.I have rarely met a feminist that isn't blatantly mysandrist who does not attack men and frame men in such an extremely negative way, while also being completely intolerable of anything that in any way characterizes women negatively. Its the 'would you rather be in the woods with a man or bear', that frames men as so terrible that it is a legitimate question if men are worse than a large aggressive wild animal that absolutely will kill a person. It's a way of dumping on men without overtly sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 09:29 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.Social media giving people a false sense of reality. We see so many beautiful successful people on social media that people thing that everyone is like this. They don't get that what they are seeing online is the very tip of things and is in no way representative of what is typical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 09:24 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.So many single women are so down the rabbit hole that they talk about how oppressed they think they are on dates. They don't even realize how blatantly mysandrist they actually are. So many dates I've been on with women who talk about their dating failures and follow it up with 'how shit men are' or 'it's so hard finding a good man'. They have internalized feminist doctrine to always blame men for their and society's problems and take no personal responsibility for their failures. They cant even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 09:23 PM |
| – | Modern feminism and online dating have destroyed dating; absolutely nothing to do with TRP, which is simply an acknowledgment of reality.Those are the women guys sleep with and ignore when we get bored of them. See them for what they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 09:20 PM |
| – | Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it.You would be the first to say that EVERYTHING ELSE IDENTICAL, you would PREFER the 5'8 guy over the 6'1 guy. Just to be clear, if there are other differences it docent get the point because maybe one has a better personality or makes more money. Other things obviously come into play. If the 6'1 dude can't even hold a conversation, that would be a deal breaker | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 03:23 AM |
| – | Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it.I find it very annoying when they do that. It is just a form of denial. If something is true 80+ percent of the time that would mean there would be 4 times as many examples showing the rule versus opposing it. If something is far more true than not, and someone is still arguing counterexample of the 20% or less rule, they don't have a point worth listening too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 12:53 AM |
| – | Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it.I have asked so many women that question (at least 100) and not one has every told me that all other things equal, she would rather date the guy who is 5'8 over the guy who is 6'1. Not 1 woman has told me she wants the 5'8 guy when no other differences are present. When something is true over 80 percent of the time, it is called a rule because it is true far more often than not. That doesn't mean it is 100% true, because almost nothing is 100% true all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 12:51 AM |
| – | Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it.Hypergamy is okay to a point. Going past that point is when men and women become delusional and entitled to someone they don't measure up too, but rationalize that they still are 'deserving' of what he or she prefers. I know too many women I work with who are okay looking and could find someone, but are perpetually single because they are chasing guys who are the best of the best. The problem is that there are not many of these guys and these guys have options. These women cannot accept that may… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the left wing will try to appeal to young men in the future?I don't see it legitimately happening where it is actually a sincere effort and good faith attempt to actually do anything for men other than empty promises for the sake of getting male votes and winning elections. The issue with the left is they are so down the narrative of both intersectionality and feminism. These ideologies see men as occupying a place of privilege and as a result the left cannot accept any male issues as legitimate because it violates their framework of how they see the wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/24 03:37 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueThats a very reasonable point. I have seen a few of women who are seemingly awesome with dudes who are shit and remember wondering what the hell is happening for why she is with him. Some of those guys I remember thinking gave vibes that they probably were manipulative and tugged her heartstrings in ways that weren't exactly healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 03:27 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI agree that finding good looking women on apps is difficult because even you are about 8/10 and she is also, chances are basically every guy is going to try and match with her. She is going to be bombarded with attention to where sticking out for that guy is a good luck type of thing. Also agree that just sleeping with someone with no real connection gets old quick. It's exciting in the moment but it isn't fulfilling after that. I think the apps are a challenge after a certain age. At some poin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueYou can find them with that gap, but those are exceptions and not typical. I have almost never seen a woman who is 9/10 or so with a guy who was 6/10 or just above average. Those I think are very uncommon I was talking about guys I knew who were 9/10 and many of their matches were women who were closer to 3/10. So often these women were messaging first and trying to get something to happen. Once in awhile my friends would meet them if they can clear indication that they would sleep with them, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 03:19 AM |
| 6 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI agree that it can be hard to find and some of those guys have some fun on the side until they meet someone they want a LTR with. Hookup culture kind of gets old. Its fun and sexual variety is cool, but most of the women involved with it are kind of a mess. The women I have slept with who had rosters, and knew who did even if I wasn't with them, were women who mostly had emotional issues and had a roster to avoid getting too attached to any one dude. It was there way of getting fun and not feel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 03:16 AM |
| 4 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueHow often do you think it happen that someone who is way above average attractiveness gets into a relationship with someone who is way below average attractiveness? I don't think it happens that often. Anyone can find some examples to the contrary, but far more often than not it does not happen. Do you think it happens often that a 9/10 attractive man or women partners up with someone who most people would rate as 3/10? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI have no idea. I don't know anything about you. How would I possibly be able to answer your question? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueIt does happen. Women will use sex to try and get a guy who they know is not likely to be interested in them otherwise. Sleep with you after a first date because you enjoy it and are more likely to go out with them against and eventually you feel a connection and want a relationship is the idea for them. I think most men have an idea real quick if they would entertain a committed relationship with a particular woman or not to where they put them in a box of relationship possibility or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 12:46 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI think you are talking the lower end of men. Successful men are still having casual sex as are many women. The men who aren't doing well in dating obviously are not having much or any of it because they are not doing well at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 12:31 AM |
| 5 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI think lots of men are playing both cards at once in the sense that they will sleep with a woman who is below what he wants in a relationship or long term partner, but will be looking for someone on the level he wants for a LTR. As long as he isn't excused with a woman he is sleeping with, it isn't keeping him from trying to find the long term partner he is searching for. These men will take casual sex from women they wouldn't have relationships with if that sex is easy to get, while keeping th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueIt's a 2 ways street. I've seen dating profiles of my guy friends with some of them being very good looking and successful men. Many of their matches are women who are not even close to measuring up. This is to the point where if those matches and the guy were in a relationship, people who look at them and wonder why he is with her. A lot of single men and single women have completely unrealistic expectations for the partner they want where they overvalue themselves and create some rationalizati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 12:28 AM |
| 6 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI think it is because many of the single men over 30 will meet women on these apps that are that desirable. Last time I was on these apps around that age, I remember so many of the women I spoke with or went out with who seemed to all have obvious major issues. Many couldn't get over a previous relationship, many were emotionally unstable, many lacked secure emotional attachment and would either have emotional walls up so high as to not let a guy in emotionally or would have anxious attachment a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 12:23 AM |
| 5 | Why do you think so many women have the same dating issueI have noticed that. So many of those over 30 lack secure attachment and cannot make relationships last. Unfortunately these people will dominate the dating pool because secure ones will be taken out indefinitely when they get into long term relationships or marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 12:17 AM |
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