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/r/MensRights08/02/20 12:09 PM
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Links: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51384614 https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/world/finland-parental-leave-policy-trnd/index.html
/r/MensRights08/02/20 10:33 AM
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Exactly, who the fuck wants someone who's so annoying to listen to or look at. And people here are assuming guys will fuck literally anything, it's 2020 can we stop promoting this bs
/r/PussyPass02/01/20 02:39 PM
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well can't really call bs on someone you don't know tho
/r/PussyPass31/12/19 07:36 AM
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nah
/r/PussyPass31/12/19 03:11 AM
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u/annavellle
/r/MensRights27/12/19 08:55 AM
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aight
/r/MensRights06/11/19 08:18 PM
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what do you mean spam, stop thinking so highly of yourself, bitch
/r/MensRights06/11/19 07:55 PM
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it requires a sense of Justice
/r/MensRights06/11/19 07:53 PM
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"Top comments" and yea the hypotheticals did their job, douchebag
/r/MensRights06/11/19 07:46 PM
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"Top comments" and yea the hypotheticals did their job, douchebag
/r/MensRights06/11/19 07:46 PM
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"Top comments" and yea the hypotheticals did their job, douchebag
/r/MensRights06/11/19 07:46 PM
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u/awesomealex9905 it's back bro xD
/r/MensRights01/11/19 12:19 AM
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alright, I won't post more of this type of content.
/r/MensRights28/10/19 07:53 PM
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well in a sense, it won't be unfair or unequal treatment of women would it? A woman instead of given full custody will be given half and it would be entirely fair and equal for the woman all be it on her expense. I'm all for taking some advantages from men if it means both women and men end up getting treated equally. But not this stuff, that is only the unfair treatment of men by actually treating them unequally at their expense. I appreciate evolving this concept through you for other people i…
/r/MensRights28/10/19 07:05 PM
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Your reply to them was very satisfying. Also, they don't want to change, evolve or advance. They already have developed the perfect sexist narrative and a member base that gives them the best advice on how to do this shit. The only thing I like about that sub is that now I know exactly what to expect/defend against and identify femcels even easier
/r/MensRights28/10/19 07:00 PM
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If a group is promoting an action at the expense of meb consciously, they are anti-men. Since they know of the emotional/financial/social harm that will come to men but still advocating for it as they don't care about men. Often for establishing a power dynamic in the relationship or taking advantage of their emotional availability or money. Edit: Additions: Often this is also unfair (obviously), is unequal treatment, and will make an average man cringe as he will emphatize with the victims/pote…
/r/MensRights28/10/19 06:21 PM
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Okay, due to the circumstance, I will reduce your sentence from 10 years to 5 years. You will still be registered on the sex offender list. Next Case.
/r/MensRights28/10/19 06:07 PM
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Anything that holds men in contempt, prejudice, a negative generalization. Or invokes any action that is at the expense of men or treats them unfairly and unequally that would make the average man cringe and feel uneasy about.
/r/MensRights28/10/19 06:05 PM
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I don't believe a woman should limit herself as sugar baby in every relationship and not work for herself aswell as contribute to half of the relationship. Equal rights come with equal lefts. It doesn't come off as hateful and bigoted, it is hateful and bigoted. The difference between TRP and this is, these women are not going their own way, they're teaching techniques to get their own way, at the expense of the guy, "any male benefit is merely a by-product". Women should be more straight forwar…
/r/MensRights28/10/19 05:59 PM
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then your definition for what is anti-guy must be wrong. In which case I invite you to atleast an hour of soul searching everyday until you gain your humanity back
/r/MensRights28/10/19 05:37 PM
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True true, some of the girls there do have mentalities like these. Specifically, accusing a guy of rape to get rid of him easily (i.e break up)
/r/MensRights28/10/19 05:25 PM
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You're probably right. Yikes
/r/MensRights28/10/19 05:17 PM
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then she'll say you did something sexual without her consent, and you'll have your live ruined with rape accusations ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/MensRights28/10/19 05:16 PM
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my boi <3
/r/MensRights28/10/19 04:58 PM
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I wouldn't join such a toxic sub, if I wasn't as toxic. That's a fact, noone wants to see such toxicity in their feed. If I really wanted to observe the carnival, I'd just visit it manually. And 642 is a valid ratio for online: member count. Big subs with 1 million members have like 7000-2000 active normally. It still doesn't change the face that 22k people thought this sub was worth joining. If those accounts were abandoned, they could be reclaimed and even if they were abandoned we can't ignor…
/r/MensRights24/10/19 05:25 PM
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not when it has 22k members and they're serious about their rules
/r/MensRights24/10/19 03:48 PM
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Bro, their thing isn't to ruin our lives, but to ruin it while benefitting themselves. It's for gaining power in situations like sex and dating, to exploit them for their own benefit. To make him crazy for you, make him your dog, so he sacrifices everything including money and his sexuality for you. It's sickening.
/r/MensRights24/10/19 10:11 AM
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also no, I'm saying look at what the mods say about falsely accused men in last pasts of her comment. That shows what their mentality really is, and for me that is proof enough that the sub is filled with sexist shit and encountering a post like this is not that hard
/r/MensRights24/10/19 04:20 AM
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I tried looking for it, my guess is it was either deleted or im shit at searching. but by now im p sure it's 100% removed cuz of the backlash that sub is getting
/r/MensRights24/10/19 04:12 AM
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Hope none of us become victims of this
/r/MensRights23/10/19 10:32 PM
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not my own screenshot. but in my opinion i think it's real looking at how toxic their sub/mods are https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 10:20 PM
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we shouldn't come down to their level
/r/MensRights23/10/19 10:06 PM
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I don't think they can, as they're trying to maintain a serious atmosphere to push their agenda. If their goal was to be normal, they'd not post shit like this. Just go check the subs rules
/r/MensRights23/10/19 10:05 PM
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Nah bro, tbh I've seen many extreme comments and post over my life on reddit. And with this sub even the mods are crazy https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 10:04 PM
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I thought it was too for a while, then i explored the sub a little more and saw mod's comments aswell https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 10:01 PM
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I hoped so, even sort of believed it was till I browsed the sub some more and saw the mod's comment https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:58 PM
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bro, i can bet you that this sub isn't getting quarantined anytime soon
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:55 PM
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and not only that, check their own mod's comment: https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:54 PM
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tbh, i would much rather like to believe you, because this stuff is making me depressed
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:51 PM
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browse that sub for a while and you won't think that's the case. look at their own mod's comments: https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:49 PM
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yes pls
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:49 PM
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i don't think it's fake, you think it is, your opinion vs my opinion. I've linked stuff to show how bad the sub is, if you still think the probabilities are on your side then I can't convince you and frankly i don't care at this point to keep replying to you.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:49 PM
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bro, look at their own mod's comment https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:47 PM
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don't think so, it tries to help women by treating men like trash, that's my opinion from the posts I've read. Also, yes, i purposely did a bad job, i didn't want the post deleted but at the same time I knew someone would link the sub here
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:46 PM
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bro, I'm starting to think this post is actually real. Because look at the mods comments https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:44 PM
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i feel that really is the case after seeing that mods comment
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:18 PM
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https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82 fake or not, my caption itself is 100% right. Sub is crazy and I'm glad people got to see it.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:18 PM
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they don't care if they look bad. they know what they're teaching is outright evil
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:16 PM
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Bro it's not bait. If the mods there are just as crazy, I don't think they would go and delete posts like these. But I assure you, I've seen some posts and comments like these. And the caption itself/my comments say that the main reason of this post is to bring attention to the fact that these subs are literally trying to exploit men with dating and sex. This post could be fake, 99% sure it isn't, it could be an anomaly or how the members there actually think. Either way, you can't ignore the bs…
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:15 PM
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I've seen radical posts/comments like this myself. This is just to prove that i might be right via circumstancial evidence. If the mods are okay with saying that shit, then you can be reasonably sure others there post too. It's just my way of providing some relevant proof without having to go back into that toxic environment and looking for crazy posts to share with you.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:12 PM
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so the post doesn't get removed by mods. r/femaledatingstrategy if you really wanna know
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:09 PM
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oh, this imgur link was commented by someone else here. Fuck no I ain't opening up that post again 😂 Yea should be quarantined asap
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:09 PM
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bro, i purposely censored it a little less, so people who know about this sub know what I'm talking about. Good on ya. Btw they're accusing me of faking the post and the comments from their own mods is just as fucked up and it's so funny: https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:08 PM
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bro, i myself started thinking the screenshot was fake, cuz i got it from another sub aswell (basically i reposted) But my job is done people saw their sub and saw the toxicity for themselves. Also, this comment from their own mod https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82, proves they actually are that crazy and immoral. And it's just so funny
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:06 PM
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https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82 Their mods own comment.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:03 PM
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bro i feel like some of their radical members, lurk here and they ban members of subs like these. I've seen some people complain about being banned from those subs even tho they never visited them. and funniest thing is, when they saw my post, saw the upvotes, they went code red and claimed my post was fake propaganda. 😂 The mods comment makes me sick but laugh at their stupidity at the same time https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:03 PM
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the personalities of the members of that sub are low quality content
/r/MensRights23/10/19 09:00 PM
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😂😂 stay safe bro
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:54 PM
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bro at this point i might actually vomit, so that's for another day. tho i have heard of that username and i believe you on how sick she is
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:53 PM
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but i do understand what you mean, and I've considered many times deleting this post and I've even read and replied to every comment here. But now I believe 100% this is real
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:51 PM
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https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82 new developments! think again bro if their mods are so radical, then im p sure im right
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:50 PM
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bro im literally nauseous from browsing that sub and commenting here, i probably have ptsd now
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:49 PM
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not even that, they hate but they don't do jack shit. the shit discussed in these subs are so common, it's like one is ranting and being sexist, and one is actually harming people
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:47 PM
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if you want i can link the place i got the original screenshot from. it wasn't censored there
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:46 PM
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nah we don't act radical like them. we are better
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:45 PM
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😂 https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:44 PM
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oh shit
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:43 PM
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Not really. That Sub is filled with sexist, wrong, immoral fucked up shit against men. Look at this: https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82 If their own mods are like this, it gives you an idea of what's actually true and what's false
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:43 PM
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Yea, i started to think it was fake aswell. Then I saw that comment and fuckkkkkkkkk they really are that fucked up. Bro I've been replying to comments here for a few hours now and I've been browsing that sub too and I'm so nauseous and sick. I have lost faith in humanity
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:39 PM
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actually, this is the kind of shit comments on their posts: https://m.imgur.com/zNlFq82. I'm 100% sure this post is real now
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:36 PM
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BRO WHAT THE FUCK. OKAY FUCK IT, i really started to think the post was fake. But now I'm sure it's real
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:34 PM
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i really fucking hope so. tho the sub itself if toxic af and not satire. r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:29 PM
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OH NO 😂
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:28 PM
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Bro, I replied to a bunch of comments saying it might just be fake. But look at my post caption, does it not describe the whole subreddit? It does, and my whole point is to bring attention to these sorts of subs. I've even posted an announcement in the comments telling everyone to take this post with a grain of salt. And I don't feel this is negligent to post something like this because I've literally seen posts by female incels and on that same sub r/femaledatingstrategy in the screenshot which…
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:27 PM
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Why do i get a feeling you're a part of that sub. But nevermind that, yes all these gender related subs are full of bs posts, but I've seen all these "female dating strategies" applied. Happened with my last girlfriend. I literally was the most miserable I have ever been during that time. That to me seems like this sub is not just ranting but an actual threat to men. And no this isn't seeming "a bit offensive". This is very offensive, manipulative, immoral and sexist. I have posted an announceme…
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:18 PM
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Dk, can't see the post on the sub anymore. Guess something happened or it was fake. Sub aint gonna ban her tho, that sub is literally man hate personified r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:10 PM
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got the original screenshot from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/dlwoc5/only_a_women_could_possibly_do_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Tho, if this is fake, the sexist highly supported sexist posts there aren't. Have a look for yourself r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:08 PM
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I believe it might have been deleted by the poster, or may actually be fake. I found the original screenshot here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/dlwoc5/only_a_women_could_possibly_do_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Tho, if this is fake, the sexist highly supported sexist posts there aren't. Have a look for yourself r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:04 PM
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Hello! Quick announcement. Due to many people pointing out that this is fake, I myself am starting to think this actually might be. I picked this screenshot up from: https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/dlwoc5/only_a_women_could_possibly_do_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share I still think there is a possibility it might be real as I've seen femcel posts just as fucked up and posts on r/femaledatingstrategy (the sub the post is from) has a lot of sexist man hating posts. My capt…
/r/MensRights23/10/19 08:02 PM
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I'll make a comment/announcement here and award myself so people see it.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:57 PM
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I really hope it's fake. But even if it isn't, it might be an anomaly. I saw the original screenshot here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/dlwoc5/only_a_women_could_possibly_do_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Tho, if this is fake, the sexist highly supported bs there isn't. Have a look for yourself r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:56 PM
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fingers crossed!
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:50 PM
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okay i sorry, I checked out your profile you seem legit. I'm starting to doubt myself if someone can post something so fucked up like that. I might just delete the post in a while cuz all I wanted was people to go visit the sub and see the shit show for themselves. Maybe i should just post their top posts instead
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:49 PM
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I'm starting to see posts in that sub claiming this is fake. I really hope to God it is. Cuz having a troll is better than a girl like that falsely accusing men. Tho go check out the shit show at r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:48 PM
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ye bro i just saw, don't know what to believe in anymore. Tho I do know the posts I see with lots of support are also sickening
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:37 PM
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Wait. Did you just fucking download this pic and make that post yourself? Looks like we have some femcel lurkers here
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:35 PM
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oh shit.... now i feel baited. either way, the caption says there's posts about exploiting men during dates and sex. And I've replied to a few saying this could be fake or an anomaly. Still, i believe the attention brought to this sub is a positive impact.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:33 PM
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no sorry bro
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:31 PM
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r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:28 PM
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r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:10 PM
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/s
/r/MensRights23/10/19 07:02 PM
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bro i tried looking for it again, but i was a few weeks ago pls don't put me through the mental agony of looking for it. If you really wanna see it, it went along the lines of "Tired of convincing men to take my number", like something like that, probably phrased was differently
/r/MensRights23/10/19 06:51 PM
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Look at the comments, you'll see the sub linked. Go check the rules and member count of that sub. Then scroll through the posts.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:51 PM
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I heard that was written by a man to prove a point. Don't know if there was any proof for this. To me, I think a woman wrote it but feminists tried to blame men.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:45 PM
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😂😂😂 bro exactly, "Date rich 30yr olds, and then go to fancy restaurants and make him pay, remember girls you don't benefit from sex, he does, he must bring value to the table" "Penis is low value, any guy will give it up easily" "We risk death, rape, violence for dates, he must pay us in free food"
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:39 PM
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iTs nOt a CrIme tO fAlSeLy aCcUsE sOmEoNe #BeLiEvEaLLwOmEn
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:32 PM
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Bro, all of them are
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:31 PM
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exactly 😂 Also I see a lot of posts complaining how it's so hard to convince guys to take their number. I feel like these are just female incels
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:15 PM
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yea I tried searching for it, couldn't find it
/r/MensRights23/10/19 05:12 PM
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Fkn Queen Victoria or whatever who set these laws, yk there used to be romance courts
/r/MensRights23/10/19 04:08 PM
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some Illuminati shit
/r/MensRights23/10/19 04:05 PM
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I hope so bro
/r/MensRights23/10/19 03:52 PM
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ofc bro, don't talk to random chicks at all
/r/MensRights23/10/19 03:07 PM
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shit fam... I mean I know but like I'm talking about actual specialized written down strategies
/r/MensRights23/10/19 03:01 PM
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Okay I'll consider taking it down
/r/MensRights23/10/19 02:57 PM
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tell me what xD
/r/MensRights23/10/19 02:54 PM
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Oh noooo. But seriously tho, just be cautious and find a good person to date, both extremes are gonna make you miserable
/r/MensRights23/10/19 02:53 PM
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I saw this post on a different sub, i cropped and hid the name and posted it here. My caption says what the sub is actually about, this was just an anomaly which was the last straw for me. OP might have faked it but seeing how toxic that sub is, I don't think so
/r/MensRights23/10/19 02:51 PM
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this might be an anomaly, but a sub literally teaching women how to manipulate men with 22k subs isn't something not to worry about.
/r/MensRights23/10/19 02:39 PM
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well, if you become very picky in terms of personality, there is a chance you'll find a girl who's not only sane but agrees with treating men equally. If you sense the littlest bit of immaturity, drama, manipulation, leverage through sex, hate for men even as a joke or entitlement. Then look for another girl. And make sure you tell everyone like your friends and HR that this girl is bothering you for relationship/sex. So you're more believable if she accuses you of something. Then once you find …
/r/MensRights23/10/19 02:14 PM
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r/femaledatingstrategy is a real shit show
/r/PussyPass22/10/19 06:23 PM
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Guys, she's a meth head who has been at it pretty hard for a few months. Obviously she's going to be delusional as fuck. Go look at her post history
/r/FeminismStopsWhen20/10/19 04:46 AM
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wHy dO wOmen hAve tO bUy a FuNneL, cAnT mEN jUst bE gIveN suRgEry sO iTs EqUalIty?
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/19 10:46 AM
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no white ones tho, that'll would ignore all the achievements of black vulvas
/r/MensRights21/09/19 09:30 AM
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one more silver bois
/r/MensRights25/08/19 09:40 AM
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Holy shit 😂😂
/r/MensRights06/06/19 04:41 PM
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I'm 17, and I learned this the hard way by having a crazy gf whom I wasn't leaving cause "Traditional women just act like that". That and after learning about all the bs men go through like false rape allegations and child custody battles and stories of women going crazy in general, I have a zero tolerance rule now. I hope you win this battle and find support in friends and family. But to anyone reading this, please don't let this type of behavior slide, know your worth and that even if you feel…
/r/MensRights05/06/19 11:08 PM
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Hang in there man. Btw did you get crazy vibes from her before you married her?
/r/MensRights05/06/19 10:55 PM
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Won't they visit you at 18?
/r/MensRights05/06/19 08:16 PM
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Congratulations my man!
/r/MensRights05/06/19 07:40 PM
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BRO! Hang in there 😭😭
/r/MensRights05/06/19 07:40 PM
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aight go for it girl
/r/MensRights23/05/19 08:35 PM
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pls don't 😂 Derogatory words are a no-no
/r/MensRights23/05/19 06:47 PM
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True, if you view insults as funny or challenging instead of hostile, life is pretty easier. So why not girls need some roughness and guys need some platonic love 🤗
/r/MensRights23/05/19 03:57 PM
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okay so me and all my best friends/class mates got this going for us, we're not gay ofc but all of us (like 6 total) share a lot of physical affection. It's awesome and we're always in a good mood, I've noticed this has lead to a lot of compliments to each other and decreased "friendly" insults. It truly is amazing ❤️ (nohomo 😂)
/r/MensRights22/05/19 03:37 PM
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shiet my bad
/r/MensRights18/05/19 03:32 PM
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i need a counter to this please. Tho this is my logic rn: imo producing whitenesses is good. Like being groped isn't as bad as a man's career being destroyed, so if a woman can't produce a whiteness, the crime is still not a big deal. But if a girl is raped in public, you can easily have whitenesses or CCTV cameras, or use rape kits. Guys should have recorded conscent when they go to a girls house to fuck. Things like girls being raped in their own or someone else's bed rooms don't really even h…
/r/MensRights18/05/19 03:07 PM
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Omg why didn't you mention that before, I assumed it was world wide, ok now I really wanna see a study on this
/r/MensRights17/05/19 09:15 AM
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wow didn't realize it was like 2m, but still 2m worldwide vs 19m Just American says something. I'd like to see the results of Single Father households on children tho. In my personal experience, the single mother households (my neighbors) have highly manipulative children, daughters who are suicidal and sons who hang out with all the other bad kids and they lie a fucking lot. I remember in my childhood, her daughter tried to accuse me of hitting her even tho I was literally 10 feet away, she sel…
/r/MensRights17/05/19 07:24 AM
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we need to see it, but it's more of a theoretical issue since most women get custody or are "stuck" with the baby when the dad leave. Thus virtually no kids get motherless households (unless the mother dies). Btw my stance on Dad's leaving is to bring them back, it's their mistake and responsibility too (unless he didn't want the pregnancy but she kept it cuz muh body muh rules)
/r/MensRights17/05/19 03:54 AM
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😂 let's see
/r/MensRights16/05/19 08:11 PM
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So fucking true, it's in the definition on Google too, Feminism is about getting WOMEN equal rights, anything other than that like getting men rights is not a feministic concern
/r/MensRights15/05/19 12:42 AM
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Guys I like this subreddit a lot, but this time you're in the wrong. He released a statement telling everyone not to believe her wife and that she has mental issues and blocked her at the same time. Just so she wouldn't know what's up. The girl he cheated with got exposed too by his wife. People started sending in his nudes and said that he claimed he was in an open relationship. All those nudes are different, therefore he did cheat and all of them were by different people. Underage girls posted…
/r/MensRights10/05/19 01:30 AM
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92k likes...... what the fuck
/r/MensRights10/05/19 01:08 AM
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